1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,920 Local government meeting, please. 2 00:00:04,860 --> 00:00:06,100 Uh, g... 3 00:00:06,100 --> 00:00:13,000 Yeah, that's bilingual recognition. I'll talk a little bit about that. We're already on the road for that, so... 4 00:00:14,770 --> 00:00:16,460 Yeah, the recording has started. 5 00:00:17,060 --> 00:00:17,680 632. 6 00:00:18,340 --> 00:00:18,960 632. 7 00:00:24,340 --> 00:00:26,620 Okay, Anita, motion to approve the agenda. 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:27,600 All in 9 00:00:31,340 --> 00:00:32,880 favor. 10 00:00:33,340 --> 00:00:33,720 All in favor. 11 00:00:39,450 --> 00:00:41,150 Any declaration of conflict of interest? 12 00:00:41,150 --> 00:00:42,250 motion 13 00:00:48,870 --> 00:00:51,330 to approve the minutes of the last meeting of October the 7th 14 00:01:03,690 --> 00:01:04,950 Questions from the public, 15 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:08,740 pardon me 16 00:01:10,060 --> 00:01:11,400 Oh sorry, yeah 17 00:01:13,660 --> 00:01:17,900 So Lorna made the motion all in favor? 18 00:01:21,940 --> 00:01:22,760 Thanks Dix 19 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:23,860 Any 20 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:30,860 questions from the public? 21 00:01:34,220 --> 00:01:39,460 I would like to know whether Lorna answers to all those questions there 22 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:45,220 I'd like to know when we're going to have the answers for that. 23 00:01:52,580 --> 00:01:54,320 We're still waiting for some answers too? 24 00:01:54,780 --> 00:01:55,120 Are you? 25 00:01:55,140 --> 00:01:57,460 Yeah, we're not quite done with the... 26 00:01:57,460 --> 00:01:59,340 Okay, because... 27 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,340 Because they're saying you can style that. 28 00:02:04,140 --> 00:02:07,720 Is it already done that part, or it's going to be? 29 00:02:08,020 --> 00:02:10,220 Or like, what's that to there? 30 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:11,500 It's bugging me. 31 00:02:11,640 --> 00:02:15,720 People I spoke to at the MNRF said that their surveyors are quite busy 32 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:22,660 And it'd be the end of 25 for the beginning of 26 before they get around to looking at the file 33 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:33,500 Yeah, to my understanding on now because what I like there it's the negotiate 34 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:42,300 Because when you negotiate this party with some and they lose some you know, so it's good for two parties, right? 35 00:02:42,920 --> 00:02:44,200 So that's why I'm negotiating 36 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:46,400 Yeah. 37 00:02:50,380 --> 00:02:54,560 Yeah, if you can come across anything in your research, bring it to our attention, please. 38 00:02:54,740 --> 00:02:56,280 We'd like to put it to rest, really. 39 00:02:56,740 --> 00:03:00,200 Yeah. I think negotiating is the best. 40 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,620 We show that to the kids at school how to negotiate their rules and what to do with them. 41 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,800 So, at least, you know, we're not losing all the time. 42 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:16,880 Yeah. And I think it's important. I believe because I love, I love this moment. 43 00:03:18,740 --> 00:03:24,180 And maybe, you know, when you read more and you see more in your archives and stuff like that, 44 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,740 more you know about the place, more you love it. 45 00:03:28,780 --> 00:03:35,340 And I think it's very necessary to have six peoples of the council because these guys 46 00:03:35,340 --> 00:03:41,960 need people to know that you exist there when you go to the MRC and then you go elsewhere 47 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:50,960 because you represent the people around, you know, so it's important that those things 48 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:57,120 things are important for me, I think, because we represent the positions of this task, you know? 49 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:05,080 When we have it good, if we don't know, but when everybody's wrong, then, ah, I should have 50 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,000 did something, you know? But that's why I think it's important to ask these people. 51 00:04:09,780 --> 00:04:14,140 Because money, what is money, I know, it's only a number. 52 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:36,260 No, but it's true. It's a tool. Yes, it's a tool. But, you know, other places, they have their seats in the Montreal and everywhere, they, you know, they're in their scene, so that's very important for these guys to be six all the time. 53 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,980 Okay, well, that's all I've come to say, but I'm still doing research on this there. 54 00:04:42,980 --> 00:04:43,120 Great. 55 00:04:44,180 --> 00:04:44,660 Thanks, Miss Rainbow. 56 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:45,280 Yeah. 57 00:04:45,980 --> 00:04:46,360 Simon? 58 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:47,240 Yeah. 59 00:04:47,580 --> 00:04:48,540 Can I get an agenda? 60 00:04:50,260 --> 00:04:53,180 Yeah, I can print one for you, sorry. 61 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,880 Okay, sign them, sign them, cover them up by the mylaw. 62 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,380 No worries, no worries. 63 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:43,740 I do a lot of research on that, and I've seen, actually, when we started researching a lot of it, it's pretty amazing that what we've had in the past, and what we still have, actually, now. 64 00:05:46,340 --> 00:05:59,520 1931, I don't know, they proposed the road that went up a roadway, they were like all the way to Miscomand and up to Bill Murray, that was going to be the main highway, much not the 1931, but that would be the Model 8, in Paris. 65 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,720 There's a map and that's the actual legend for it says here. 66 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:14,320 it says it's a proposed road and I have another map that shows there's two main roads in the 67 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:21,060 chain there was only one road to the fort and one going to Doyle Post Office those are your 68 00:06:21,060 --> 00:06:28,000 two main roads and it's too bad to not have any control of that road because it is only 69 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:34,180 We need you guys to represent, and actually, they can do that. 70 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:36,320 We're sitting that motion. 71 00:06:37,340 --> 00:06:39,940 Because if that hill goes down, the road's shut. 72 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,860 And we really need your support. 73 00:06:51,130 --> 00:06:52,290 I've had a tragedy here. 74 00:06:53,870 --> 00:06:54,730 My wrong goal. 75 00:06:55,650 --> 00:06:57,010 And Billy wrote that. 76 00:06:57,210 --> 00:06:58,150 You've probably seen that, you guys. 77 00:06:59,310 --> 00:07:00,310 Did you all see that? 78 00:07:00,470 --> 00:07:01,530 Did you ever see that? 79 00:07:01,670 --> 00:07:01,830 No. 80 00:07:09,030 --> 00:07:12,980 I was just going to read one little thing here. 81 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,940 I was amazed at how much it was here in 82 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:20,680 a second. 83 00:07:24,230 --> 00:07:25,450 You had it under digital. 84 00:07:27,090 --> 00:07:32,650 One of the amazing things was at one time there were between 25 to 50 families living up there. 85 00:07:32,650 --> 00:07:37,900 And some of the houses were taken apart, and they're actually existing here in the scene. 86 00:07:45,570 --> 00:07:46,450 The Morrison's. 87 00:07:46,450 --> 00:07:47,630 The heritage is there. 88 00:07:51,070 --> 00:07:51,730 They let that go. 89 00:07:52,490 --> 00:07:55,150 I just can't understand what you guys are doing. 90 00:07:59,490 --> 00:08:01,050 I'm asking you to resend your motion. 91 00:08:03,220 --> 00:08:04,580 What are the respect, brains, 92 00:08:06,730 --> 00:08:07,210 that's right here? 93 00:08:08,290 --> 00:08:09,910 Did you get a copy of that? Read it. 94 00:08:10,610 --> 00:08:11,470 I've seen that. 95 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,100 Whatever trouble you guys put when we sit in here, 96 00:08:18,340 --> 00:08:18,920 a lot of it is, 97 00:08:20,420 --> 00:08:21,620 there's shades in there, 98 00:08:21,620 --> 00:08:23,020 I remember when you go back and look at this, 99 00:08:25,350 --> 00:08:26,510 it gets incredible. 100 00:08:26,790 --> 00:08:27,470 Our history is there. 101 00:08:29,470 --> 00:08:32,090 Any individuals like we have in us that will come up there. 102 00:08:35,740 --> 00:08:36,880 There's a lot of stuff in here. 103 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:39,580 You've never seen in the shame? 104 00:08:39,820 --> 00:08:40,040 Yep. 105 00:08:40,300 --> 00:08:40,540 You did? 106 00:08:40,700 --> 00:08:41,460 I've never seen it. 107 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:42,800 I'll do a copy. 108 00:08:43,460 --> 00:08:45,780 I asked him before I could use any of it, 109 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,700 because I wanted to make sure I wanted to buy 110 00:08:47,700 --> 00:08:49,280 his hired copy for him, because he worked there for that. 111 00:08:49,860 --> 00:08:50,760 He's a book though, actually. 112 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:51,360 We might have him in the archives. 113 00:08:52,700 --> 00:08:54,040 I had a little more information. 114 00:08:56,900 --> 00:08:58,200 What was the name of the book? 115 00:08:58,740 --> 00:09:04,360 It's the Trope Lake Settlement, dedicated in 1997, recognition of the binders of Settlement 116 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,400 and Trope Lake area in the middle of the 1800s. 117 00:09:08,460 --> 00:09:10,120 It was made up when they had the tour in there. 118 00:09:10,860 --> 00:09:11,960 Everybody got one that time. 119 00:09:13,260 --> 00:09:16,320 People don't talk about the indigenous, but the indigenous up there. 120 00:09:16,860 --> 00:09:21,100 The fur trade, that's where it came down to the Trope Lake Road. 121 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,440 That's where the road comes from. 122 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,240 There's school teachers. 123 00:09:30,380 --> 00:09:31,800 It's amazing what's in there. 124 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,480 And you have most offices in Michael Doyle, but there's actually three 125 00:09:38,180 --> 00:09:39,060 postmasters in there. 126 00:09:41,270 --> 00:09:42,550 School teachers that went 127 00:09:42,550 --> 00:09:46,930 to Fort Edge before they got trained and came back to teach in their own 128 00:09:46,930 --> 00:09:47,550 municipality. 129 00:09:50,330 --> 00:09:51,910 We can't let this go, guys. 130 00:09:54,350 --> 00:09:58,450 Nobody's asking us to pave the road, but let's keep it so we have it all that's safe. 131 00:10:00,890 --> 00:10:10,190 You just need to sit down and put the differences apart, because there's something that doesn't make sense to let that go. 132 00:10:10,710 --> 00:10:16,010 The Black River Road is not all municipal road either, because if you read what's on that paper, 133 00:10:16,010 --> 00:10:19,850 or any place that it's government on both sides of that road. 134 00:10:20,170 --> 00:10:24,530 The locks, it's owned by the MTQ, or it's owned by the MIRM, 135 00:10:25,090 --> 00:10:28,570 that hasn't been transferred, but they maintain the road. 136 00:10:31,180 --> 00:10:31,940 That can be developed. 137 00:10:32,220 --> 00:10:32,780 That can be developed by Walter. 138 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:33,820 Walter may phase it. 139 00:10:33,980 --> 00:10:35,700 And if you look at your map on the far side, 140 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,380 it's a cottage zone around the valley. 141 00:10:39,060 --> 00:10:40,660 It can still be developed. 142 00:10:42,700 --> 00:10:44,340 It's too bad they let all the locks go 143 00:10:44,340 --> 00:10:46,280 because all the locks were developed up there 144 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:51,360 floor for the immune spoutly to grow and someone was lost somehow by turning back to the government 145 00:10:52,780 --> 00:10:55,780 because I don't understand when they got turned back to the government because they're complete 146 00:10:55,780 --> 00:11:01,340 loss it should have went to the municipality for sales first I was concerned but I don't know how 147 00:11:01,340 --> 00:11:08,240 he did that way back then so the agreement at that time he went a year to uh for 10 years to 148 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:13,300 clear and make their year to get a deed and seven from the farmers didn't do that so it was 149 00:11:13,300 --> 00:11:19,320 was never deeded. It was never taken out of the land before. That's why. Once it's deeded, 150 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:20,940 it never goes back to the land before. 151 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,400 The dairy farm and all of that? 152 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,080 All of that. There's seven that were never deeded. 153 00:11:26,680 --> 00:11:28,280 So if they were never taken out? 154 00:11:28,780 --> 00:11:31,140 There'd be more kilometers that would last a long time. 155 00:11:31,700 --> 00:11:35,900 One of my farms, the back half of it, was indeeded and it went to the ground. 156 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:41,080 Farms on both sides of me are a mile long or wherever. One eye on this cut in half. 157 00:11:41,900 --> 00:11:45,780 Notaries told me that it wasn't the registered and I forget what year they 158 00:11:45,780 --> 00:11:55,500 were supposed to do that, but the factory is so bad, it's unreal, it's on my grandmother's 159 00:11:55,500 --> 00:12:01,440 brand, that the NPT owned that road and it was given to the municipality and part of that was 160 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:06,480 given to a landlord and I go on the site and it shows the road going right through the guys 161 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:07,280 threshold. 162 00:12:09,380 --> 00:12:11,900 I know that we're not supposed to speak so I'm asking 163 00:12:11,900 --> 00:12:18,180 if I can speak. So the interesting thing is, is that we do represent the 164 00:12:18,180 --> 00:12:24,540 constituents. And when I bring your concern about Truck Lake out to many 165 00:12:24,540 --> 00:12:30,220 other people in Sheen Grove, they, I represent them because they're telling me 166 00:12:30,220 --> 00:12:37,400 they don't want it because of the expense. The municipality can't afford it. 167 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,960 Okay, so please hear me out. 168 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,560 I just want to answer that. 169 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,100 Yes, please do. 170 00:12:42,580 --> 00:12:46,160 And so who's to say that the ministry, 171 00:12:46,580 --> 00:12:48,200 if the ministry takes it over, 172 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:49,660 who's to say, 173 00:12:50,420 --> 00:12:52,260 like nobody has said anything 174 00:12:52,260 --> 00:12:53,800 about shutting a road down. 175 00:12:54,700 --> 00:12:56,660 But who's to say that the ministry 176 00:12:56,660 --> 00:12:58,960 who has all this money 177 00:12:59,900 --> 00:13:01,960 versus the municipality 178 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,400 of Shinbro may invest in it, 179 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:12,260 they need that road. So who's to say that they will not invest in that road? Like they keep hearing, 180 00:13:12,540 --> 00:13:16,620 they're going to shut it down, they're going to, they're not going to maintain it, they're not, but 181 00:13:16,620 --> 00:13:22,680 who said that? What was the sign at the top of the hill when you told the words Kettle Lake that 182 00:13:22,680 --> 00:13:30,000 said the road closed? That's an M&RF road. But, but the Ministry of Transportation or the, the, 183 00:13:32,500 --> 00:13:35,040 They've never said anything about closing that road. 184 00:13:35,420 --> 00:13:38,160 They just don't maintain it, and they're very clear about this. 185 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,360 I can show you my email. 186 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:44,040 They do not maintain the road as users say. 187 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,920 So shouldn't we all be fighting with them? 188 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,480 And we can if we own five kilometers of it you'll have to say. 189 00:13:51,420 --> 00:13:53,400 We should be fighting with them. 190 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,480 I 100% agree with you. 191 00:13:56,100 --> 00:14:00,580 You have the snowmobile club and you have all these people who get grants, the bike club. 192 00:14:00,860 --> 00:14:02,440 They're right here asking you to help them out. 193 00:14:02,940 --> 00:14:05,400 They got all the government grants and they were looking up for, 194 00:14:05,780 --> 00:14:07,080 and they don't come up and brush through. 195 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,060 What did you talk to other people? 196 00:14:08,460 --> 00:14:10,220 It was very hard to get any of these clubs to do anything. 197 00:14:11,340 --> 00:14:15,200 And, like I said, we're not against the snowmobile club, we're not against the bike club. 198 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,620 But we'd like to get something out of that if they're getting all the government money, like you're saying. 199 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,140 And we're not against you. 200 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:32,200 I think we need to keep the emotional side away and we have to think logically. 201 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:38,200 We can talk about our ancestors and all that. That's emotional side. 202 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:43,580 But I think that we need to think about the logical side. What's the logic? 203 00:14:45,980 --> 00:14:49,660 I understand what you're saying, but you're saying that we're a cost factor. 204 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,320 Oh, it costs too much to keep our role up there. 205 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,600 How much money have you put in the role? 206 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,080 No, I didn't say that. 207 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,100 No, but that's what people are telling you. You can answer them. 208 00:14:59,260 --> 00:14:59,380 Yes. 209 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:09,420 This much money in the road. We collect $25,000 in tax. That's not all of it. We pay $580 each landlord for all the service 210 00:15:09,420 --> 00:15:18,740 charges up there, which we don't most of us use to don't. But we're supporting them so their cost is lower, but you want to 211 00:15:18,740 --> 00:15:22,260 our money and not give us anything for a role. 212 00:15:22,700 --> 00:15:24,300 This is supposed to be a question for you. 213 00:15:24,780 --> 00:15:25,600 No, but come on. 214 00:15:26,420 --> 00:15:27,420 She asked that. 215 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,380 When I run the meetings, this is the way I run meetings. 216 00:15:32,340 --> 00:15:36,480 I won't let it be repeated when it comes to that on the agenda. 217 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:38,580 Karen, let her say it. 218 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:38,820 Okay. 219 00:15:40,020 --> 00:15:41,020 I brought this. 220 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,320 I think it's great on that. 221 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:44,600 We should be able to have... 222 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:52,660 I think Enveria would be nice that we could come back when we hear something that we could actually put a little input when we sit through and we could give us a... 223 00:15:52,660 --> 00:15:55,920 Like you said at the beginning of the meeting and you hear stuff that you can't, then you can't open your mouth. 224 00:15:56,660 --> 00:15:59,080 And you've got to keep it to the next meeting. I don't think that's right either. 225 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,080 Yeah, there's some talk about moving the question period to the end, right? 226 00:16:02,180 --> 00:16:03,420 Yeah, you can do two as well. 227 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:03,760 Yeah. 228 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:09,380 Yeah, I'm trying to not keep it personally. You guys haven't dealt with it. I know that she's right. 229 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:18,980 I'm not here for pay as a counselor. I know that. That's for sure. But it's true though. 230 00:16:19,100 --> 00:16:22,840 You do know the facts that the numbers that we're putting out on that road and what we're 231 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:31,260 getting back is not the same. I can say if we were putting costings $25,000 and we're 232 00:16:31,260 --> 00:16:36,600 giving back ten. It's not that way. So that should be set straight for the few people. 233 00:16:39,670 --> 00:16:46,850 I just want to point out something that in our bills that we paid this month, there's 234 00:16:46,850 --> 00:16:52,770 an item in there that says truck lake road and it's $11,000 and something. 235 00:16:53,650 --> 00:16:55,430 So, I'm just going to show you. 236 00:16:55,430 --> 00:16:58,710 I'm not saying that this is the first year though too we have to remit to do this. 237 00:16:58,710 --> 00:17:00,610 Well, I wasn't in the first year that it was done. 238 00:17:00,730 --> 00:17:03,310 Well, why are we applying for grants for that one? 239 00:17:03,450 --> 00:17:04,310 Can I ask that question? 240 00:17:04,310 --> 00:17:07,870 because of the classification of the road there's no grants that I've ever seen 241 00:17:07,870 --> 00:17:13,170 for a local three-road yet I'm always looking and I wanted to say well goes 242 00:17:13,170 --> 00:17:18,030 the administration I'm always sending anything you have I'm always reaching 243 00:17:18,030 --> 00:17:22,110 out anytime I have time I'm always continuously looking into this to give 244 00:17:22,110 --> 00:17:25,990 counsel more information as much as I can give them I think we missed the 245 00:17:25,990 --> 00:17:33,970 train Mansfield is getting paid for 18 long from the F2 I did talk to them 246 00:17:33,970 --> 00:17:39,670 about that to figure out like how they and that was an agreement they had eons ago 247 00:17:39,670 --> 00:17:42,850 the guy said and he said don't ever think that's gonna happen to she and I 248 00:17:42,850 --> 00:17:46,430 tell you right now we won't I'm not history don't have this you said we 249 00:17:46,430 --> 00:17:49,950 missed the boat on that yeah I was asking not to be thrown underneath the 250 00:17:49,950 --> 00:17:55,470 rug because we because the US probably missed it and nobody's perfect that's 251 00:17:55,470 --> 00:17:59,910 for sure why we missed it I don't know why it was missed but I do know when I'm 252 00:17:59,910 --> 00:18:03,190 going through the air guys there's so much grant money that went on that 253 00:18:03,190 --> 00:18:08,090 before and now we don't get any. I don't understand that. I just can't figure it out. We can't get no 254 00:18:08,090 --> 00:18:10,330 grant money for that road. If you find one, send it my way. 255 00:18:12,690 --> 00:18:15,070 Mr. Bertrand? Greg Bertrand. 256 00:18:17,130 --> 00:18:23,730 Currently the owner, only resident, full-time Montreux Bay Road. I just want to bring up the 257 00:18:23,730 --> 00:18:31,390 fact that in 2019, when I bought that property with my wife, we bought it because it was listed 258 00:18:31,390 --> 00:18:40,850 as development, residential, recreational, commercial. It was wide open and advertised 259 00:18:41,750 --> 00:18:52,850 as a community as a municipal role. With, in several agendas and several budgets, $10,000 260 00:18:53,290 --> 00:19:00,750 allocated for every year, all of those things had to play into the decision of myself, 261 00:19:00,750 --> 00:19:07,090 my wife and several other people buying properties up there. Our major concern 262 00:19:07,090 --> 00:19:13,270 here is the fact that we knew we had 10 grand and now we risk losing it all 263 00:19:13,270 --> 00:19:19,570 because of user pay and when you give away that responsibility you give away 264 00:19:19,570 --> 00:19:25,650 your ownership of that five kilometers of road you now have to apply for 265 00:19:25,650 --> 00:19:31,670 everything you do. You need permission to get done. So where does that leave the 266 00:19:31,670 --> 00:19:39,190 people that are up there? I literally just spent $4,000 on a development plan for 267 00:19:39,190 --> 00:19:45,790 my property, which could potentially bring in another $50,000 in taxes annually 268 00:19:45,790 --> 00:19:53,570 in this municipality. In an area that you said nobody was allowed to live, but 269 00:19:53,570 --> 00:19:55,050 yet I was allowed to live. 270 00:19:57,540 --> 00:20:02,920 Why is the area being ignored and just shoved aside by the 271 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:09,960 handful of people that seem to be talking behind every line here and deciding factors 272 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:15,260 without the public consultation? This room is full of people all the time fighting for 273 00:20:15,260 --> 00:20:19,700 a job like Rome. There's never anybody here fighting for anything else. 274 00:20:22,250 --> 00:20:23,490 It means something. 275 00:20:23,490 --> 00:20:27,950 It's the last chunk of developable land in this municipality. 276 00:20:30,700 --> 00:20:35,600 You can't build on green land like one house on a property. 277 00:20:36,140 --> 00:20:38,440 You can't buy it unless you're a Quebec resident. 278 00:20:40,140 --> 00:20:42,000 Trout Lake Road is the same. 279 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,840 Or Trout Lake, sorry, all the way around it is the same as Lac McDonald. 280 00:20:47,420 --> 00:20:50,780 We can be bringing $100,000 in if you do it right. 281 00:20:50,780 --> 00:20:57,400 Now that it's been given away and nobody knows what the hell is going on, my main question 282 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:06,000 for this council is, will you ensure there is not a reduction in what you have already promised 283 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,660 and been giving your ratepayers on Trebley Road? 284 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:16,660 Will you put a resolution in effect to make sure that $10,000 remains in effect for the 285 00:21:16,660 --> 00:21:22,520 future to come, or will you put a resolution in effect and appoint a team of these counselors 286 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:29,280 to go to the MNRF and make sure that they put the $10,000 into it? 287 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:33,760 Because people have 288 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:43,600 invested, not just myself. Mr. Eliard, um, sorry. Clare Ramon. Clare Ramon, the O'Neill's, 289 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:51,040 employees, people have a substantial investment up there. They all actually own land that 290 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:58,380 can be still cut apart and sold to more people that can live there full time. We need to protect 291 00:21:58,380 --> 00:22:07,960 that. If you don't, then this is truly a retirement community and people will come here to die 292 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,540 Because there's no drugs. 293 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:12,780 Thank you. 294 00:22:13,540 --> 00:22:14,680 Thanks, Mr. Bergeron. 295 00:22:21,860 --> 00:22:22,560 Anyone else? 296 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:24,900 Anyone else? 297 00:22:25,710 --> 00:22:26,580 Question in front of the public? 298 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,800 Okay, question period ending at 6.54. 299 00:22:32,020 --> 00:22:33,120 6.54. 300 00:22:35,260 --> 00:22:37,940 Item number 6 is the municipal inspectors report. 301 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,020 Everybody 302 00:23:09,330 --> 00:23:10,190 get a copy of it? 303 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:14,440 Any questions? 304 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:20,780 So much paperwork. 305 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:34,320 Permits carried over in 23. One garage, one house, one septic, one forestry. Permits to date 24. 306 00:23:35,340 --> 00:23:41,600 Carried over from 23. Permits to date 24. Two houses, two septic, two garages. Three sheds, 307 00:23:41,900 --> 00:23:49,620 two tin roofs, one shoring, four wells, four additions, four renovations. He's currently 308 00:23:49,620 --> 00:23:57,040 working on assessment, access and approval of the subdivisions with the MAMMAT and CTPAQ, 309 00:23:59,540 --> 00:24:05,580 assessing new civic addresses to several lots and the Troke Lake and the Schwaier-Zachpac. 310 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,000 Now I had a question about that. 311 00:24:09,380 --> 00:24:15,180 Is it our responsibility to give out civic numbers 312 00:24:15,180 --> 00:24:17,060 in the TNO? No. 313 00:24:19,340 --> 00:24:21,980 So when he says St. Pat, he's below the 314 00:24:25,660 --> 00:24:28,780 We've had requests for specific numbers on Azure. 315 00:24:29,660 --> 00:24:30,260 Okay, 316 00:24:36,690 --> 00:24:37,090 all good. 317 00:24:42,770 --> 00:24:44,950 Administration, number seven, eight. 318 00:24:45,850 --> 00:24:48,310 Payment of the bills, need a motion. 319 00:24:50,410 --> 00:24:52,350 Everyone's had a chance to look at the bills. 320 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,980 I don't know where my copy of that is. 321 00:25:42,620 --> 00:25:43,460 All in favor. 322 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,100 All in favor? 323 00:25:52,700 --> 00:25:52,980 Yeah. 324 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,300 Recognize everyone. 325 00:25:57,300 --> 00:25:57,420 one. 326 00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,820 Does that work? No, no. 327 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,700 Is it completed? 328 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:02,380 No. 329 00:26:04,460 --> 00:26:05,480 It's scheduled. 330 00:26:06,740 --> 00:26:08,240 Does it have a material to do with? 331 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:09,720 Okay. 332 00:26:19,980 --> 00:26:22,180 Item number B, days you're a day payroll. 333 00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:26,360 I'll let Ashley... 334 00:26:27,380 --> 00:26:28,060 Ashley... 335 00:26:29,020 --> 00:26:30,200 explain that to you. 336 00:26:30,700 --> 00:26:33,180 So now that we don't have our accountant 337 00:26:33,180 --> 00:26:34,960 preparation of T4s 338 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:40,300 become an issue in the near. I know Doris for the longest time wanted us to do 339 00:26:40,300 --> 00:26:44,820 our payroll through Desjardins. When I came back I kind of explained to her that 340 00:26:44,820 --> 00:26:49,980 I could easily do it all. This was also with the aid of Jerry with me. Now that 341 00:26:49,980 --> 00:26:54,140 he's not there to get our T4s and everything it might be a good idea to 342 00:26:54,140 --> 00:27:00,340 do that. So it's up to council. It's the same price, roughly $1,200 a year. 343 00:27:00,340 --> 00:27:09,180 they produce our T4s for us and yeah. I think we've made a motion to do that in 344 00:27:09,180 --> 00:27:17,360 the past then we made a motion to send it yeah so we're just going back yeah not 345 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:19,780 having Jerry it just it does hold them. 346 00:27:22,210 --> 00:27:25,190 Rick made the motion all in favor? 347 00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:38,580 I can see a comparative income statement was given to council. 348 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,820 So by law, we have to present you with the comparative income statement once a year. 349 00:27:46,540 --> 00:27:48,780 And that's before you adopt the budget. 350 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,480 So it's just to show you where your budget was and where you actually are. 351 00:27:54,540 --> 00:27:57,460 Me and Jerry are still doing quite a bit of cleanup in the books. 352 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,640 So not everything is completely accurate. 353 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:05,120 I'm still missing a couple built-in stuff to put in as well, but it gives you an overview of where it works. 354 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,880 So we can review this before we start a budget meeting? 355 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:24,660 Yeah, it just has to be in the minutes that you were given the final positions today. 356 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,660 Yeah, you can check it out, you can make notes, you can call me. 357 00:28:29,980 --> 00:28:32,520 No motion 358 00:28:37,380 --> 00:28:37,780 for that. 359 00:28:47,410 --> 00:28:56,890 I had a number D, motion to adopt the bylaw, the elections, that's to go from six councillors 360 00:28:56,890 --> 00:28:57,330 to four. 361 00:29:06,860 --> 00:29:08,680 Is there any further discussion on it? 362 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:31,300 So you haven't till the end of December, so you potentially have one more meeting if you 363 00:29:31,300 --> 00:29:32,140 feel you need. 364 00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:37,900 It has to be signed to the government by December 30. 365 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:50,520 You wanted to do this to make a motion to not pull or to do it, nothing happens at all if we don't make a motion to do it. 366 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:59,340 So the bylaw you've already adopted the draft, you have your public consultation and then you either adopt the bylaw as it is to go from 6 to 4. 367 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,720 We can leave it for tonight if you want another month to think about it. 368 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,240 If we're not in favor, we just don't adopt it. 369 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,180 You just don't adopt it? 370 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,580 Yeah, that's why they want you to hold a public consultation to hear. 371 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:10,840 Right. 372 00:30:11,460 --> 00:30:12,220 So you can think about it. 373 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:12,840 That was good. 374 00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:17,230 I think that's a good idea. 375 00:30:17,390 --> 00:30:18,610 Some good points you brought up tonight. 376 00:30:18,850 --> 00:30:22,050 But we already had a lengthy discussion on it at the last meeting. 377 00:30:22,590 --> 00:30:25,850 So I think it'd be good if we had some more input, you know. 378 00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:29,670 We've had more time to think about it. 379 00:30:30,450 --> 00:30:31,490 Yeah, we have one more meeting. 380 00:30:31,490 --> 00:30:33,350 so yeah table 381 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,960 that okay item 382 00:30:58,450 --> 00:31:02,600 number e draft the bylaw for the contract 383 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,400 management yeah 384 00:31:06,830 --> 00:31:10,350 so the government came down with more rules to add to your 385 00:31:11,090 --> 00:31:17,770 contractual agreement which is basically when you hire for anything there's a 386 00:31:17,770 --> 00:31:21,630 part of it that you have to add by law and then there's a part of it that's a 387 00:31:21,630 --> 00:31:26,530 choice by council so one of the main parts you have to add by law is that 388 00:31:26,530 --> 00:31:29,990 that you are favoring effects goods and services 389 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,590 over any other Canadians, goods and service. 390 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,450 Then you're rotating your contractors 391 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,370 when awarding contracts by mutual agreement 392 00:31:40,370 --> 00:31:42,230 or inviting persons to tender. 393 00:31:43,350 --> 00:31:46,870 You can consider factors as degrees of expertise, 394 00:31:47,350 --> 00:31:48,970 customer experience previously had, 395 00:31:49,210 --> 00:31:51,450 deadlines for execution, experience 396 00:31:51,450 --> 00:31:53,470 in financial capacity, proposed price. 397 00:31:54,550 --> 00:31:57,590 So that is added automatically by law. 398 00:31:57,910 --> 00:32:03,370 Now, for the section where you can choose as a council to add or not, there's two sections. 399 00:32:04,770 --> 00:32:08,970 One of the first sections basically describes that if you're in a small municipality 400 00:32:09,670 --> 00:32:14,670 and there is food catering, gas station, pharmacy, hardware store, sales mechanical parts, 401 00:32:14,930 --> 00:32:21,170 rental machinery tools, and someone on council or someone on staff owns it, 402 00:32:21,170 --> 00:32:29,210 has shares in it or can you re-interest in it, you're allowing them to still be able to do business with them. 403 00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:36,690 It is kind of on a case-per-case basis. It has to be in those specific areas. 404 00:32:37,450 --> 00:32:44,890 If you do allow it, you have to post the employer elected official, the company, and all the purchases made 405 00:32:44,890 --> 00:32:46,270 it's still about the public's awareness. 406 00:32:47,330 --> 00:32:49,870 And then the second section that you can add 407 00:32:49,870 --> 00:32:52,430 is if you're doing manual service, 408 00:32:52,910 --> 00:32:53,810 and it's the same thing. 409 00:32:53,950 --> 00:32:55,750 So if you were to go to tender by invitation, 410 00:32:57,250 --> 00:33:01,750 you could technically get the official staff, 411 00:33:02,010 --> 00:33:03,470 perhaps, if they have the service they're offering. 412 00:33:04,130 --> 00:33:05,650 You would still have to do the same steps. 413 00:33:05,850 --> 00:33:07,090 So you have to post it on your website, 414 00:33:07,490 --> 00:33:09,050 the company name, and the amount that you're sending. 415 00:33:09,490 --> 00:33:13,270 So those two are a decision you can make to add or not. 416 00:33:14,930 --> 00:33:18,290 It's usually encouraged and small. 417 00:33:20,580 --> 00:33:25,000 Ashley, are you saying the volume on it says it must rotate? 418 00:33:25,620 --> 00:33:27,980 Yes, so that's probably not a choice. 419 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,700 Have we been doing that? 420 00:33:30,860 --> 00:33:31,100 Yes. 421 00:33:36,380 --> 00:33:38,060 Could you read again those ones? 422 00:33:38,740 --> 00:33:39,260 The parts. 423 00:33:39,660 --> 00:33:47,420 So there's food, catering, gas stations, pharmacy, hardware store, sale of mechanical parts, rental of machinery or tools. 424 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,260 Rental of machinery. 425 00:34:00,340 --> 00:34:05,340 I mean, it's always better to have it in, and then you don't have to use it. 426 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,800 You know, you'd still come to the table, you'd still discuss who you want to hire, but if 427 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,080 it's in there, at least think of how long do we use Roy. 428 00:34:16,380 --> 00:34:19,920 If Roy was here, we would still want to use Roy. 429 00:34:21,260 --> 00:34:27,760 So if it's there, you can use it, or you can choose that you just find easier not to put it in. 430 00:34:27,780 --> 00:34:30,140 So really, it's a matter of declaring... 431 00:34:30,140 --> 00:34:34,640 It has to be, we have to have a contractual agreement that's sent to the government, 432 00:34:35,020 --> 00:34:39,880 and they come down probably every two years, and they have to have this in, and this in. 433 00:34:40,220 --> 00:34:43,680 So this time, the first one you have to put in, and the other two that we do. 434 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:59,680 But that's real. The only difference is that they're saying that if somebody is involved with council, they can also be involved in certain businesses and do business with council, but it has to be done above the board. 435 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:06,460 You have to list the services you do without how much and someone has to be publicized so that everybody knows. 436 00:35:08,180 --> 00:35:20,540 Yeah, it's like if you had a gas station here for the guys. Well, we don't really want to send them to Forka Lunge, let's say, to get gas, but maybe a member on council owns the gas station, or a staff member also works there. 437 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:23,680 That's not our case then. 438 00:35:26,330 --> 00:35:27,990 This is new? Couldn't do that before? 439 00:35:28,430 --> 00:35:31,290 No, this is new. This is your green area. 440 00:35:31,570 --> 00:35:35,930 Yeah. Okay. There's a lot of controversy over that in the past. 441 00:35:36,810 --> 00:35:37,230 Down the line. 442 00:35:37,230 --> 00:35:43,430 And again, I'd have to really dig in to see exactly about it. 443 00:35:43,470 --> 00:35:45,410 Does that require a public concentration? 444 00:35:46,030 --> 00:35:46,250 No. 445 00:35:47,010 --> 00:35:48,450 But a notice of motion? 446 00:35:49,890 --> 00:35:51,110 Yes, notice of motion. 447 00:35:51,390 --> 00:35:53,610 And then you adopt your draft by law. 448 00:35:56,820 --> 00:35:57,440 Like the same name? 449 00:35:59,340 --> 00:35:59,640 Okay. 450 00:36:02,860 --> 00:36:04,260 Anyone like to make that motion? 451 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:06,180 Okay. 452 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:06,860 Good 453 00:36:20,910 --> 00:36:21,230 end draft. 454 00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:22,870 Sure. 455 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,640 Whose name goes on at American Lake? 456 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:50,760 Are they famous or not? 457 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:51,380 Yes. 458 00:36:56,940 --> 00:36:57,640 Good, Karen. 459 00:36:59,860 --> 00:37:01,760 So Rick made a motion to... 460 00:37:03,140 --> 00:37:07,800 Is there a motion to include all the optional ones as well? 461 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:08,700 Yeah, I think so. 462 00:37:09,860 --> 00:37:10,980 I don't know if that makes sense. 463 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:14,720 All those in favor? 464 00:37:15,140 --> 00:37:15,320 Yes. 465 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,540 MRC fire safety cover plan item F. 466 00:37:27,940 --> 00:37:30,220 Motion to adopt the MRC safety cover plan. 467 00:37:30,220 --> 00:37:31,060 So 468 00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:34,820 they reviewed this over a couple of years. 469 00:37:35,540 --> 00:37:37,580 Junienne got used in charge of securities 470 00:37:37,580 --> 00:37:39,500 on the entire MRC. 471 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,440 The motion he wants us to pass is 472 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,460 whereas the municipal council municipality of Schembroke 473 00:37:45,460 --> 00:37:47,740 previously adopted the proposed implementation plan 474 00:37:47,740 --> 00:37:50,260 of the MRC, Pontiac Fire Safety Plan, 475 00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:52,380 whereas significant changes have been made 476 00:37:52,380 --> 00:37:53,760 to the plan since its first draft 477 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,180 particularly updates to the responsibilities 478 00:37:55,180 --> 00:37:57,900 of individual municipalities and various other actions. 479 00:37:58,460 --> 00:38:00,060 Whereas the regional council of the MRC 480 00:38:00,060 --> 00:38:01,260 Pontiac has adopted a resolution 481 00:38:01,260 --> 00:38:06,360 to suspend the filing of the fire safety cover plan to allow for its re-adoption by local municipalities, 482 00:38:07,220 --> 00:38:10,780 whereas the revised implementation plan has been presented to the members of the municipal council 483 00:38:10,780 --> 00:38:16,460 for their review and consideration. It is proposed by a result that the council hereby adopts the 484 00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:20,460 revised implementation plan is presented and agrees to implement it as far as the fire safety 485 00:38:20,460 --> 00:38:20,940 measures 486 00:38:25,350 --> 00:38:30,710 change. Not really. That's not a lot. I mean, I read through it. Yeah, there's a big 487 00:38:30,710 --> 00:38:36,470 There isn't anything that really stands out as being a problem. 488 00:38:36,690 --> 00:38:38,130 I would say being a problem to anybody. 489 00:38:39,930 --> 00:38:41,170 The Emotion Guide. 490 00:38:41,570 --> 00:38:42,150 I'll make it. 491 00:38:43,050 --> 00:38:44,470 It doesn't give us much choice anyway. 492 00:38:44,810 --> 00:38:45,330 No. 493 00:38:50,580 --> 00:38:52,360 To unmix the motion, all those in favor? 494 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:52,840 Yeah. 495 00:38:53,220 --> 00:38:53,360 Yes. 496 00:39:00,190 --> 00:39:03,470 Item G, Charter of the French Language. 497 00:39:05,070 --> 00:39:09,110 Yeah, so I've been working on this as well as Bill 96, 498 00:39:09,110 --> 00:39:11,270 which it will come to later down below. 499 00:39:11,770 --> 00:39:16,670 Basically, it's a motion to set directives to regulate the use of languages other than 500 00:39:16,670 --> 00:39:19,270 French in municipal organizations in Quebec. 501 00:39:20,070 --> 00:39:25,910 So they are allowing us an exemption because we have been identified as a bilingual municipality. 502 00:39:26,370 --> 00:39:32,610 That being said, in order for us to be permitted to communicate internally in English, 503 00:39:33,130 --> 00:39:38,590 for us to be able to communicate with ratepayers in any language other than French, we will 504 00:39:38,590 --> 00:39:44,130 need to fill out that there's a tool the government has online and this motion 505 00:39:44,130 --> 00:39:50,330 allows us or allows me to go in and basically say in every situation we 506 00:39:50,330 --> 00:39:56,570 should be allowed to use English be it for a contract to a local a local 507 00:39:56,570 --> 00:40:02,730 contractor or you know an email to a rate payer if we don't have these 508 00:40:02,730 --> 00:40:10,790 allocations by I believe the deadline is December 1st, then we won't be allowed to 509 00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:15,050 moving forward. So it's primordial for us to be able to serve the public in English 510 00:40:15,050 --> 00:40:20,830 that we pass this motion. So I would need someone to make the motion to regulate 511 00:40:20,830 --> 00:40:23,170 the use of language other than French. 512 00:40:34,670 --> 00:40:40,470 If you go through with this and you get 513 00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:43,350 permission to do it in English, does it have to be bilingual or can be English 514 00:40:43,350 --> 00:40:49,910 only it has to be but yeah it gives you it allows you to use English okay which 515 00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:54,590 otherwise would not be permitted regardless of the the mother tongue of the 516 00:40:54,590 --> 00:41:01,770 the recipient Lorna makes the motion all those in favor item 517 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,340 H 25 budget for 518 00:41:11,340 --> 00:41:15,700 strap is presented to council for review and discussion we 519 00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:21,580 have some dates in 520 00:41:21,580 --> 00:41:25,760 future for budget discussions. 521 00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:37,290 You want to give yourselves time to go over what 522 00:41:37,290 --> 00:41:42,470 they had so far and wait till then to really get into it or if there's any 523 00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:48,370 questions tonight. Well we'll get to the dates thereafter but as far as 524 00:41:48,370 --> 00:41:55,680 discussing this item now presented a council for review and discussion. 525 00:41:56,300 --> 00:41:59,360 Jerry is still helping me. 526 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,420 He did give me some little facts that I wanted to tell you. 527 00:42:10,380 --> 00:42:15,060 So we all know there's an increase in tax valuation for the new roll that's coming up. 528 00:42:15,180 --> 00:42:21,440 So in 2024, we were evaluated at 95 million for 82700 in chain. 529 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:26,980 For 2025, we're up to 145,552. 530 00:42:26,980 --> 00:42:36,420 so you're at a 52.6% increase a lot of that due to COVID as well so at this 531 00:42:36,420 --> 00:42:41,820 point if you wanted to keep your tax bills exactly the way they were without 532 00:42:41,820 --> 00:42:46,460 this big increase your mill rate now is 56 cents you'd have to drop your mill 533 00:42:46,460 --> 00:42:53,460 rate 2.367 cents just to show you the big difference so you're at 56 cents now 534 00:42:53,460 --> 00:42:57,040 you'd have to drop it to 36 cents. 36. 535 00:43:00,140 --> 00:43:01,700 Because of the valuation difference. 536 00:43:02,980 --> 00:43:08,400 And that's to keep it exactly the same. You'll obviously need a bit of an increase. 537 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:15,940 So what me and Jerry are going to do is go through and get at least a good idea of your revenues that are coming in, 538 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,260 your expenses that are going out, and then that's, once you have the majority of those in, 539 00:43:20,260 --> 00:43:26,100 that's when you can kind of see where you can get your mill rate because you 540 00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:30,520 basically just want to balance you want to make sure you're just charging to 541 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:30,700 operate. 542 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:40,520 But is there room to increase the spending to try and improve the 543 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:45,620 infrastructure? Yeah so that's why as a council you go over your expenses and 544 00:43:45,620 --> 00:43:50,520 your projects that you want and then you can kind of see where it lands. 545 00:43:53,490 --> 00:43:53,930 I do 546 00:43:53,930 --> 00:43:58,750 You have some fees already for service fees. 547 00:43:59,530 --> 00:44:02,310 Your police fees last year were $173. 548 00:44:03,510 --> 00:44:05,590 This could fluctuate by a little bit there. 549 00:44:05,790 --> 00:44:08,490 So this year they're going to be $177. 550 00:44:10,030 --> 00:44:12,010 And that reflects the true cost. 551 00:44:13,290 --> 00:44:17,050 Your fire and rescue for 2024 was $178. 552 00:44:17,690 --> 00:44:21,250 And you'll be able to drop it to $157 for 2025. 553 00:44:21,250 --> 00:44:21,450 by. 554 00:44:25,650 --> 00:44:35,030 It used to be at 178 and it's gonna go to 157. Oh well the cost from 555 00:44:35,030 --> 00:44:41,750 she'll take you back went down. Really? You have two additional users of service 556 00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:46,570 fees, not that that would give you a huge difference, but two new properties. 557 00:44:53,540 --> 00:44:53,660 Yeah 558 00:44:53,660 --> 00:44:57,940 that police cost this year was 81,177. 559 00:45:00,110 --> 00:45:03,250 And the fire department was 72,075. 560 00:45:03,830 --> 00:45:05,530 Do you 561 00:45:10,810 --> 00:45:14,250 know of any increases or decreases with the wastes mentioned? 562 00:45:15,370 --> 00:45:20,050 It should stay close to the same for next year. We'll probably see a difference the next year. 563 00:45:21,110 --> 00:45:22,750 That's one of the laws of the changing. 564 00:45:24,530 --> 00:45:25,470 Excuse me. 565 00:45:26,450 --> 00:45:28,390 Can I ask a question about the budget? 566 00:45:29,330 --> 00:45:29,650 No. 567 00:45:30,990 --> 00:45:32,810 Because it's big lines, right? 568 00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:36,270 Where does the road apply to that there? 569 00:45:36,830 --> 00:45:37,950 Because it's not an infrastructure. 570 00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:43,970 Oh, that's complicated. 571 00:45:45,770 --> 00:45:49,770 We've several different sources of income for the roads 572 00:45:49,770 --> 00:45:53,990 and then from that we divide up the contracts for snow removal 573 00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:57,730 and so what we're left with is usually based on 574 00:46:00,050 --> 00:46:03,210 what we had been doing in the past as far as ditching and culverts and everything. 575 00:46:03,210 --> 00:46:04,030 Okay, 576 00:46:07,290 --> 00:46:09,130 can I say it in French? 577 00:46:09,850 --> 00:46:10,450 No, I'm sorry. 578 00:46:11,550 --> 00:46:12,910 Okay, we can translate it in English. 579 00:46:13,550 --> 00:46:14,550 We can do the translation. 580 00:46:14,930 --> 00:46:18,910 Okay, because I like to understand the budget, 581 00:46:19,490 --> 00:46:20,710 trying to understand the budget. 582 00:46:21,310 --> 00:46:22,130 But if you know, 583 00:46:23,590 --> 00:46:25,710 because there you have the employees of the ministry 584 00:46:25,710 --> 00:46:28,090 who work on the showroom and everything, right? 585 00:46:28,750 --> 00:46:31,110 But the layout of the path, 586 00:46:32,190 --> 00:46:33,910 this is the operator of the computer. 587 00:46:33,910 --> 00:46:34,670 Yes. 588 00:46:35,610 --> 00:46:42,950 But where is the budget? Because I see that it is a big line of budget. But there it is complicated, it is done. 589 00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:54,690 Because we receive financial sums, we receive money to maintain the local roads. 590 00:46:54,930 --> 00:46:55,190 Ok. 591 00:46:55,530 --> 00:46:56,670 But it is very limited. 592 00:46:59,030 --> 00:47:04,070 Yes, both. Well, there's the tech, in any case. It's very complicated because it's 593 00:47:04,070 --> 00:47:07,350 that, the rates change each year. 594 00:47:09,970 --> 00:47:20,990 The 148 is the MTQ. So we don't touch the 148. It's just, so this money is allotted 595 00:47:20,990 --> 00:47:29,790 only for yeah yeah so the more we can get our employees to do better because 596 00:47:29,790 --> 00:47:33,790 we're already playing them hourly grading it's just a contract on its own so 597 00:47:33,790 --> 00:47:38,110 grading is a contract snow plowing is a contract and they're all in the budget 598 00:47:38,110 --> 00:47:39,410 line you can see them 599 00:47:39,410 --> 00:47:49,070 Like, you can see, there are a lot of people on the table, but there are no people on the other table, like some... 600 00:47:49,070 --> 00:47:50,870 Do you know when you do the books there? 601 00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:51,370 Yeah. 602 00:47:51,710 --> 00:47:51,990 Okay? 603 00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:57,870 There's somewhere it's written that they did, if it's a provincial or a federal road, you know? 604 00:47:59,030 --> 00:48:00,030 Because I wanted to... 605 00:48:00,030 --> 00:48:02,590 Let's say, example, Trout Lake, okay? 606 00:48:03,370 --> 00:48:04,610 What type of road is that? 607 00:48:05,290 --> 00:48:09,430 it's a local three so it's not we can't get grants or money for it that's the 608 00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:16,950 problem okay so we get a big road maintenance grant every year like a 609 00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:21,070 hundred eighty three thousand roughly and we take that amount and we divvy it up 610 00:48:21,070 --> 00:48:25,110 mostly on our roads so that'll pay our snow plowing our grating sweeping 611 00:48:25,110 --> 00:48:29,750 ditching gravel all those things kind of road related it's one big grant we 612 00:48:29,750 --> 00:48:34,410 usually get it okay sorry could you could you itemize those questions maybe 613 00:48:34,410 --> 00:48:39,130 before the next meeting, it seems to be quite complicated. It's not a question period and 614 00:48:39,130 --> 00:48:44,970 we need to move on to a big agenda. I'm sorry. The last question. Okay, that's okay. I'm 615 00:48:47,490 --> 00:48:54,610 trying to understand the before and maybe later on, like how come before they have the 616 00:48:54,610 --> 00:49:02,990 money to do that? Oh, the programs change all the time. Oh, okay. You know? They had agreements 617 00:49:02,990 --> 00:49:06,670 in the past when the MTQ turned over a lot of roads in Sheenbrook to the 618 00:49:06,670 --> 00:49:11,690 municipality that was some of the agreements that came to but they was 619 00:49:11,690 --> 00:49:15,330 a time limit on it I would imagine. To my acknowledge, Anita. 620 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,200 We do have a public 621 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,060 council meeting that you can attend. 622 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:28,780 He's going to get to the dates. 623 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,260 Specifically for budget. Yeah, so you can come and it's only about budget. 624 00:49:34,260 --> 00:49:35,360 When is that going to be? 625 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:37,520 We're coming to it. 626 00:49:39,260 --> 00:49:40,140 Thank you. 627 00:49:40,180 --> 00:49:40,940 Have you got an agenda? 628 00:49:41,820 --> 00:49:43,540 Yes. You'll find it then. 629 00:49:43,820 --> 00:49:44,320 Okay, thanks. 630 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,160 Okay, so we can move on. Any more discussion on the budget? 631 00:49:52,220 --> 00:49:52,940 It's very preliminary. 632 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,220 Budget meeting dates. 633 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,760 Oh, it was next. 634 00:50:05,540 --> 00:50:06,140 10th 635 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:28,000 on December 9th, and then the work session for the budget if requested by council if 636 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:32,460 they want an additional work session, but the 28th is what actually is not proposed. 637 00:50:37,140 --> 00:50:45,480 So what are council's feelings on these dates for the budget meeting being on December 638 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:46,540 the 9th? 639 00:50:54,830 --> 00:50:55,310 I 640 00:50:58,640 --> 00:50:59,700 feel like I was thinking of you. 641 00:50:59,700 --> 00:50:59,940 Monday. 642 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:01,000 Yeah. 643 00:51:04,310 --> 00:51:09,570 And then, in addition to that, if you require, you could have a working session. 644 00:51:15,530 --> 00:51:16,370 Tell it before then. 645 00:51:16,690 --> 00:51:17,070 Twenty-eight. 646 00:51:18,110 --> 00:51:18,590 Yeah. 647 00:51:19,290 --> 00:51:20,590 So you have your meeting today. 648 00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:25,510 And then if you want to have a work session in between this meeting and your December meeting, 649 00:51:25,650 --> 00:51:27,070 you're just your regular council meeting. 650 00:51:27,590 --> 00:51:29,170 You can have one where it's just council. 651 00:51:29,730 --> 00:51:31,270 And you can hash through everything. 652 00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:40,210 Then you have a chance to discuss it again at your December 6th public meeting and then you adopt it at your December 6th, especially budget. 653 00:51:42,030 --> 00:51:44,010 The work session is just a few more. 654 00:51:44,190 --> 00:51:45,650 November 20th is a Thursday. 655 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,600 I'm not available on the 28th. 656 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:52,820 Neither one. 657 00:51:54,340 --> 00:51:55,340 Can we do this on Monday? 658 00:51:55,700 --> 00:51:57,860 I couldn't be doing on the 25th of November. 659 00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:58,540 You can. 660 00:51:58,540 --> 00:52:05,200 I was just hopeful because I'm off on vacation all next week and then the Monday, so don't 661 00:52:05,980 --> 00:52:07,420 But I mean it doesn't matter 662 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,500 As long as you're open to not much changing 663 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,980 From what you're seeing tonight. What about December 2nd? 664 00:52:23,740 --> 00:52:25,020 There's too much to have it 665 00:52:25,820 --> 00:52:37,880 earlier. Why could we come for an hour or two before? It gives you more time to 666 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:38,180 have a 667 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:48,300 plate first and then. Yeah, we came by the second, but we came to say it by five o'clock. 668 00:52:59,510 --> 00:53:01,970 So December 9th, 5 o'clock? 669 00:53:02,290 --> 00:53:03,890 December 2nd? 670 00:53:03,890 --> 00:53:04,730 December 2nd. 671 00:53:04,730 --> 00:53:05,910 Before meeting we're done. 672 00:53:06,250 --> 00:53:06,490 Okay. 673 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:10,200 Thank you. 674 00:53:10,580 --> 00:53:12,140 And so then you just need a motion for this. 675 00:53:12,900 --> 00:53:13,420 Okay. 676 00:53:14,820 --> 00:53:15,860 All right. 677 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:21,390 So yeah, we need a motion then for the public meeting 678 00:53:21,390 --> 00:53:22,770 and adopt the agenda. 679 00:53:25,010 --> 00:53:27,910 Adopt the budget December the 9th. 680 00:53:31,810 --> 00:53:36,110 So, what are we doing? Is it December the 9th, the public consultation? 681 00:53:38,770 --> 00:53:41,270 Well, just to be clear, not a consultation. 682 00:53:43,170 --> 00:53:45,370 It's just presenting the budget right now. 683 00:53:48,020 --> 00:53:50,700 Oh, I need a motion to present it. 684 00:53:51,140 --> 00:53:51,920 Not a mixed motion. 685 00:53:54,540 --> 00:53:55,380 I'll make up. 686 00:53:57,700 --> 00:53:58,920 Uh, Karen already did it? 687 00:53:59,120 --> 00:53:59,240 Yeah. 688 00:54:03,500 --> 00:54:04,000 No problem. 689 00:54:05,420 --> 00:54:06,340 That was a state. 690 00:54:09,140 --> 00:54:11,240 What time is that, 6.30? 691 00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:12,940 6.30? 692 00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:15,380 What about 2? 693 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:16,600 Standard. 694 00:54:16,900 --> 00:54:17,600 Public meetings. 695 00:54:18,100 --> 00:54:26,910 So December the 2nd at 5, and December the 9th at 6.30. 696 00:54:27,310 --> 00:54:27,470 Correct. 697 00:54:29,870 --> 00:54:31,930 Karen made the motion. All those in favor? 698 00:54:33,370 --> 00:54:34,050 Mr. 699 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,900 Tessier will then update us until 96. 700 00:54:44,900 --> 00:54:52,320 So we had an update. We had a roundtable meeting with representatives of the other 23 municipalities involved. 701 00:54:53,540 --> 00:54:57,760 There's several proposals. One was the defense collaboration proposal. 702 00:54:58,540 --> 00:55:08,660 And it essentially is that if any one of the 23 municipalities is targeted by this legislation, 703 00:55:08,660 --> 00:55:15,500 that we stand united, at least in a public statement, if it should occur, you know, 704 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:20,900 all for one, all one for all kind of thing. And if any municipality is affected, 705 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:27,200 they will contact Code St. Luke, any of the 23, and then the legal team will 706 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:35,160 immediately attempt to trigger a new court stay. So right now, because the law 707 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:44,380 law hasn't been shown by the government to be egregious. There is a stay currently. And 708 00:55:44,380 --> 00:55:51,720 so it's not, you know, it's not the end of the story, but until the law is applied in 709 00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:58,720 egregious way, the judge disagreed with the assertion that it was, because you can't 710 00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:03,060 prove something that hasn't happened yet, essentially. So that's the reason for the 711 00:56:03,060 --> 00:56:09,740 stay. There is a legal fee update. So we've only spent 66% of the original budget, which 712 00:56:09,740 --> 00:56:15,780 is $1 per permanent resident. If you look at the costs of the other municipalities, we 713 00:56:15,780 --> 00:56:21,120 are currently contributing less than 1% of the legal fees. So we're along for the ride, 714 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:28,080 but because of the size of our municipality, our cost is still very low. There is a request 715 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:36,740 that if necessary, a reserve of remaining funds be created for future needs, and that would 716 00:56:36,740 --> 00:56:44,840 be 34 cents per resident, again, very low cost for us as plaintiffs. And everyone, they're 717 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:52,760 agreed. So only two municipalities have experienced calls concerning the law. There have been 718 00:56:52,760 --> 00:57:00,020 no violations, even though the legal requirements, it's up to them whether they enforce it or 719 00:57:00,020 --> 00:57:05,380 not. Currently the government isn't enforcing the law. So yeah, we're encouraged to report 720 00:57:05,380 --> 00:57:10,700 any complaints or citations and then that will be forwarded to our legal advisors. 721 00:57:11,380 --> 00:57:17,200 This was also agreed upon by the group. And the last thing is the unified communication. 722 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,780 So the group will draft a common message on their stance regarding the group challenge. 723 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:28,720 This message will be sent for approval before the appeal deadline to the council and prior to publication. 724 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:42,780 And again, the group has agreed on a unified approach so that everyone be on the same page when it comes to discussing this publicly with any news outlets or government organizations or anything like that. 725 00:57:42,780 --> 00:57:49,860 So things are going okay. We haven't lost. We haven't won. There's still money in the 726 00:57:49,860 --> 00:57:55,220 coffers. We may be asked to kick in that 34 cents in the near future, although that is 727 00:57:55,220 --> 00:58:00,000 uncertain. And it's going to take quite a while for this to work its way through the courts. 728 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,680 So we just need to be patient. 729 00:58:03,540 --> 00:58:07,700 So Simon, what's an example of how they would target me in this reality? 730 00:58:09,140 --> 00:58:12,720 So for example, in the case of... 731 00:58:14,060 --> 00:58:15,540 Just email in between me and Simon. 732 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,220 Yeah, really, that's it. 733 00:58:17,340 --> 00:58:18,500 Any internal communication. 734 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:24,660 So even though Ashley and I speak to each other in English, we would be forced to communicate 735 00:58:24,660 --> 00:58:25,900 through email all in French. 736 00:58:25,900 --> 00:58:34,700 French, there's a ton of stipulations as to how the contracts would have to be done unilingual 737 00:58:34,700 --> 00:58:35,400 francophone. 738 00:58:35,620 --> 00:58:38,960 We wouldn't be allowed to tender public contracts in English language. 739 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:45,860 So there's a few different things like that that are part of the process like the legal 740 00:58:45,860 --> 00:58:46,240 appeal. 741 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:55,600 That's what they're saying is that if the watchdogs come for the French language 742 00:58:55,600 --> 00:59:00,200 that we all stick together, that we all let each other know that it's happened, and that 743 00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:06,680 there will be a shared response from the 23 municipalities. And if they do, we're kind 744 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,820 of hoping that they do, because that would give us an opportunity to then say that the 745 00:59:10,820 --> 00:59:18,620 law is egregious. They haven't used it in the way that we fear they will. And they're 746 00:59:18,620 --> 00:59:24,170 saying that's the reason why that it's not, you can't really contest it like I 747 00:59:24,170 --> 00:59:28,030 saying you can't say it's egregious until harm has actually been done. 748 00:59:28,950 --> 00:59:37,010 So it's in the judge's hands for now and we're just going to keep applying and all that. 749 00:59:37,230 --> 00:59:42,370 Simon, could they target you in discussions with our employees? 750 00:59:43,130 --> 00:59:43,630 Yes. 751 00:59:44,090 --> 00:59:44,850 So that's it. 752 00:59:45,630 --> 00:59:50,290 Any community, well it's hard obviously to mandate conversations. 753 00:59:51,070 --> 00:59:52,470 It's not a big brother situation. 754 00:59:52,470 --> 00:59:58,930 But it could be as far as like your size on the door. You don't have them in both languages. Yeah, it can be very simple 755 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:10,260 Yeah. It's basically, think of it as being forced to be unilingual francophone with no recourse to the English language whatsoever. 756 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:14,880 Everybody understand that? 757 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:15,840 Yeah. 758 01:00:16,300 --> 01:00:22,760 There's 23 registered bilingual municipalities in the province. We're just trying to retain that. 759 01:00:22,980 --> 01:00:25,080 How come they say bonjour high? 760 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:32,100 That's the Banjo Hai thing is a Montreal thing and they're trying to stop it. Also it's worth 761 01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:38,140 mentioning that some of these 23 municipalities are not recognized as officially bilingual. 762 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:43,540 There are actually, there's only a two or three maybe, but they are unilingual French and they 763 01:00:43,540 --> 01:00:50,040 have thrown in with us out of principle. So there's a principled objection to the law because, 764 01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:57,100 you know it's they see it as as unfair to anglophones there's only two or three I'd 765 01:00:57,100 --> 01:01:00,920 have to go through the list of municipalities I just know that not all 766 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:06,440 the municipalities on the list are officially recognized as bilingual 767 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:15,740 pardon me we are we receive that because of our what's it called the forms 768 01:01:15,740 --> 01:01:21,560 you fill out the come-to-your-house the census the census establishes us as a 769 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:26,040 well as a majority anglophone yeah it's thanks to the census that we're able to 770 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,800 apply and say we are a bilingual municipality that status has been 771 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:36,040 granted us and so this is just us trying to defend ourselves basically from 772 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,020 Bill 96 okay and 773 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:48,080 Kay need a motion to apply for a grant for the summer 774 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,140 student for 25 dick 775 01:01:55,260 --> 01:01:59,420 made the motion all those in favor fast 776 01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:07,980 need a motion to 777 01:02:07,980 --> 01:02:12,980 accept the TNO recyclables at the transfer site with your 2025 778 01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:19,100 charge $3,000 Rick 779 01:02:24,260 --> 01:02:25,540 made the motion all in favor 780 01:03:05,130 --> 01:03:16,770 Thank you for your financial support over the past years. Your municipality's annual contribution to the organization assists in covering the operating costs of the facility. 781 01:03:16,770 --> 01:03:21,430 community and helps ensure lasting benefits to the community such as social interaction, 782 01:03:21,850 --> 01:03:27,110 the facility serves as a gathering place for families and friends fostering community bonds, 783 01:03:27,670 --> 01:03:32,290 physical health, ice skating and pickleball promote physical activity, improving fitness 784 01:03:32,290 --> 01:03:36,950 and coordination, skill development provides opportunities for individuals to learn and 785 01:03:36,950 --> 01:03:42,290 improve skating, hockey and pickleball skills, for economic boost, attraction 786 01:03:42,290 --> 01:03:48,570 for visitors, benefiting local businesses and creating jobs, seasonal activities, extends recreational 787 01:03:48,570 --> 01:03:54,810 opportunities during winter months, enhancing community engagement, inclusivity accessible to 788 01:03:54,810 --> 01:04:01,150 people of all ages and skill levels, encouraging participation for diverse groups, youth engagement 789 01:04:01,150 --> 01:04:07,170 offers programs for children and teens helping develop teamwork and discipline, cultural events, 790 01:04:07,170 --> 01:04:12,930 Events can host ice events, hockey games, festivals, enriching local culture and entertainment 791 01:04:12,930 --> 01:04:13,430 options. 792 01:04:14,110 --> 01:04:19,070 For mental health, provides a fun recreational outlet that can reduce stress and improve 793 01:04:19,070 --> 01:04:21,710 overall well-being and community pride. 794 01:04:21,830 --> 01:04:26,030 A well-maintained rink can become a source of pride and identity for the community. 795 01:04:26,770 --> 01:04:30,930 Your support is very important and we hope that your municipality will continue to contribute 796 01:04:30,930 --> 01:04:38,350 the usual amount of $5,000 in 2024 and 2025. Respectfully, David Weincourt, President. 797 01:04:40,430 --> 01:04:40,870 Thank you. 798 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,740 This isn't $10,000 today. 799 01:04:52,420 --> 01:04:56,760 $5,000 for 2024. And then if you want to pass for next year. 800 01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:58,060 For next year? 801 01:04:58,220 --> 01:05:01,480 Yeah. We haven't paid 2024. 802 01:05:02,180 --> 01:05:02,920 We haven't paid it. 803 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,520 But we made a motion to pay it. 804 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:21,320 I'll make a motion for this 805 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:25,480 year or both years? 806 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,740 Well, I don't know. Do you want to make the other before the budget? 807 01:05:29,340 --> 01:05:30,420 Why don't we just do one? 808 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:31,760 I think we can next year. 809 01:05:33,980 --> 01:05:35,700 Well, yeah, it should only be for 224. 810 01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,260 I think we haven't gotten our budget yet, 811 01:05:38,340 --> 01:05:40,000 but we need to make our budget for 225. 812 01:05:41,940 --> 01:05:42,840 Let's just do it again. 813 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,120 Okay, for 224 that. 814 01:05:45,540 --> 01:05:49,100 Change of wording to pay the 5,000 budgeted? 815 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:49,840 Yeah. 816 01:05:50,140 --> 01:05:50,420 24? 817 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:51,120 Yeah. 818 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,520 John made the motion. All those in favor? 819 01:05:54,980 --> 01:05:55,200 Yes. 820 01:06:03,650 --> 01:06:04,690 Office closures. 821 01:06:09,700 --> 01:06:14,480 I'm gonna turn this over to the DG. Simon and myself both have 822 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:19,740 vacation next week. So does Kelvin. So we were going to close the office Monday 823 01:06:19,740 --> 01:06:27,540 Tuesday Wednesday. Just easier. Happened. We ended up taking up the exact same week. 824 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:34,680 But it might be easier that way there. Everybody's off. Kelvin's off. So that 825 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:41,480 be closing from November 18th to the 20th. And then a motion to have the office closed for 826 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:47,700 Christmas holidays, which we normally do, December 23rd to January 3rd. 827 01:06:53,970 --> 01:06:55,410 What day is the building 828 01:06:55,410 --> 01:07:01,870 inspector going to be here? He's in on Monday. So he will be here the 18th? The 18th. So the 829 01:07:01,870 --> 01:07:07,320 office will be open? He'll be here, yeah. I mean, they can't pay taxes. 830 01:07:10,180 --> 01:07:11,080 I don't know if he'll be here, but... 831 01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:11,860 Do 832 01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:22,120 we need to stress that or just close it on these dates? 833 01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:26,580 At this time of the year you have nobody. 834 01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:28,480 He can't pay for that. 835 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:32,380 Coming in just to make it clear like there's no payments or anything. 836 01:07:34,100 --> 01:07:36,360 Doris is always reachable all the way off as well. 837 01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,140 She can't extend if there's anything. 838 01:07:38,660 --> 01:07:39,900 Do you need a motion for that? 839 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:40,500 Yes. 840 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:41,420 I'll make the motion. 841 01:07:43,770 --> 01:07:45,870 Some of you are working on transfers out on this Sunday. 842 01:07:46,290 --> 01:07:48,870 Yes, Brian is doing this Sunday and then Calvin's back up. 843 01:07:52,070 --> 01:07:54,170 Karen made the motion, all in favor? 844 01:07:54,570 --> 01:07:55,550 Yes, ma'am. 845 01:07:56,450 --> 01:07:56,750 Passed. 846 01:08:07,570 --> 01:08:15,190 Bibliode Udoei, motion to contribute to the library, minimum amount is $65, but we've 847 01:08:15,190 --> 01:08:17,110 normally contributed $650. 848 01:08:19,570 --> 01:08:23,530 That 65 thing is just kind of came to light. 849 01:08:24,070 --> 01:08:30,550 It's always been there, but nobody remembers mentioning it before, but anyhow. 850 01:08:30,550 --> 01:08:30,650 No. 851 01:08:32,130 --> 01:08:33,610 So what's in our budget last year? 852 01:08:34,690 --> 01:08:35,130 Six. 853 01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:40,560 It just says for 2025, 854 01:08:41,420 --> 01:08:44,320 the minimum amount is 50 cents per capita, 855 01:08:44,540 --> 01:08:46,500 according to the official gizette. 856 01:08:47,340 --> 01:08:48,340 And when I went and looked it up, 857 01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,860 we were 130 people at 50 cents. 858 01:08:51,380 --> 01:08:52,360 So that's your minimum, 60. 859 01:08:54,260 --> 01:08:57,040 It is to note that it's only us and Alamed Island. 860 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:02,320 What's your name? 861 01:09:05,820 --> 01:09:06,520 And then you have to, 862 01:09:06,660 --> 01:09:07,560 do you want to just do the minimum 863 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:08,620 or is there a certain amount? 864 01:09:08,620 --> 01:09:17,380 I know. I thought that's what it has been. I know before we gave more. So what does everybody think? 865 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,220 Well, if we have it in our budget. 866 01:09:22,440 --> 01:09:23,860 It was budgeted before now? 867 01:09:24,060 --> 01:09:25,420 This is for next year. 868 01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:26,540 For 650? 869 01:09:27,060 --> 01:09:27,340 Yeah. 870 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:28,520 So we're asking. 871 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:30,420 So we need to put that in our budget. 872 01:09:30,420 --> 01:09:33,640 Yes. You've already paid for this year. It was in your budget. 873 01:09:33,820 --> 01:09:34,460 And we paid 650. 874 01:09:44,660 --> 01:09:49,400 They want an answer. Yeah, they did by the end of November. So we need a motion that 875 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:50,520 we will put it in their budget. 876 01:10:00,180 --> 01:10:01,160 Didn't they need them out? 877 01:10:12,740 --> 01:10:13,140 They're probably trying to 878 01:10:13,140 --> 01:10:19,740 motion to put something in the budget for whatever budget you need. Like how we just say we will. 879 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:25,940 How we will. If everybody agrees that they're going to give the sick person, say we will give them the 880 01:10:25,940 --> 01:10:32,000 expected put-it-in-air budget. You just have to agree on an amount and when you agree on the amount 881 01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:36,020 you're agreeing that you are going to put it in your budget. You just have to agree on an amount. 882 01:10:36,020 --> 01:10:42,840 I don't make that motion that way. From whatever budget we need we just put it in. Everybody agrees. 883 01:10:48,060 --> 01:10:50,120 John makes the motion. All in favor? 884 01:10:50,660 --> 01:10:50,980 Yeah. 885 01:10:54,170 --> 01:10:56,350 And to be clear, we're keeping it up the same amount? 886 01:10:56,970 --> 01:10:57,290 Yeah. 887 01:10:58,150 --> 01:10:58,550 650. 888 01:11:03,330 --> 01:11:04,770 The Coonerary Interest Farm. 889 01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:10,540 Just has to be noted that you were... 890 01:11:10,540 --> 01:11:12,000 Oh yeah, those things, we filled up those. 891 01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:16,240 They're only waiting for mine. 892 01:11:17,480 --> 01:11:18,960 That's okay, you have to put this number. 893 01:11:26,530 --> 01:11:27,690 Designation of the Pro-Mare. 894 01:11:45,790 --> 01:11:47,730 I don't even understand what's going on. 895 01:11:47,950 --> 01:11:53,170 Each year we have to make a motion to nominate someone to be the pro-mayor in the Mayor's 896 01:11:53,170 --> 01:11:53,450 absence. 897 01:11:54,310 --> 01:11:55,970 They act as mayor as I'm doing tonight. 898 01:11:58,190 --> 01:12:03,010 But you also have to attend meetings if the Mayor is not available. 899 01:12:03,150 --> 01:12:03,630 You have to. 900 01:12:03,790 --> 01:12:04,470 Get mercy meetings. 901 01:12:04,810 --> 01:12:04,990 Yeah. 902 01:12:05,230 --> 01:12:06,770 Place wreaths. 903 01:12:06,770 --> 01:12:07,630 Make speeches. 904 01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:10,490 But I thought that was done when you... 905 01:12:10,490 --> 01:12:16,510 When the elections are on, I thought they would decide if you needed an actor. 906 01:12:17,650 --> 01:12:18,570 I think you can... 907 01:12:18,570 --> 01:12:19,830 It's every day's the mayor. 908 01:12:19,990 --> 01:12:23,290 I think you can adopt your own practice for that to do it annually. 909 01:12:23,750 --> 01:12:27,530 Sometimes they wanted to move it around, give everyone experience at the job. 910 01:12:29,110 --> 01:12:30,770 Or is it a mandate? 911 01:12:31,510 --> 01:12:32,150 I'm not sure. 912 01:12:32,490 --> 01:12:33,830 I know we have to do it yearly. 913 01:12:34,630 --> 01:12:37,050 That might just be because you guys only ever did it yearly. 914 01:12:39,030 --> 01:12:45,890 When I was mayor, we had the option to pick one for the term, and I remember discussing 915 01:12:45,890 --> 01:12:48,470 that we'd do it every year in case someone else wanted to kick it again. 916 01:12:49,190 --> 01:12:52,970 So is this like somebody's the mayor and somebody's the mayor in public? 917 01:12:53,610 --> 01:12:53,970 No. 918 01:13:07,410 --> 01:13:12,490 The mayor is in Alberta, so I'm filling it. 919 01:13:15,490 --> 01:13:16,930 You can leave it till December. 920 01:13:16,930 --> 01:13:17,970 If you don't have a volunteer, 921 01:13:21,550 --> 01:13:23,090 you're up for nominations. 922 01:13:24,250 --> 01:13:27,610 Anybody wants to make a motion to designate? 923 01:13:29,930 --> 01:13:31,110 I'll pretend to be there. 924 01:13:31,310 --> 01:13:31,490 No. 925 01:13:31,690 --> 01:13:33,990 So you can vote. 926 01:13:34,470 --> 01:13:36,690 So you can vote on the traffic. 927 01:13:36,750 --> 01:13:38,690 So you can vote on that. 928 01:13:39,170 --> 01:13:39,230 Right? 929 01:13:40,090 --> 01:13:42,650 Well, the conflict of interest because I live there. 930 01:13:43,290 --> 01:13:47,030 And screw you with me. 931 01:13:49,850 --> 01:13:50,890 Leave it. 932 01:13:51,010 --> 01:13:53,270 Doris can appoint it as well if no one wants to. 933 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:10,120 I don't want to nominate myself sitting here now. 934 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:40,380 Item number are Christmas appreciation dinner, motion for council and staff to attend the 935 01:14:40,380 --> 01:14:44,660 Christmas Appreciation Dinner on December the 6th, is that not a meeting? 936 01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,140 No, that's a second hand. 937 01:14:47,900 --> 01:14:48,940 That's a second hand. 938 01:14:50,060 --> 01:14:54,230 Then we need a head kill. 939 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:05,720 So, the invitation went out to everybody. We've got the place and the date and the time and 940 01:15:07,700 --> 01:15:09,100 have to show proof of ID. 941 01:15:15,690 --> 01:15:16,510 We'll make a motion. 942 01:15:28,020 --> 01:15:30,400 Is that just information only? No, we need a motion. 943 01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:32,740 We need a motion because you'll be spending the money to pay for it. 944 01:15:35,530 --> 01:15:42,650 The RSVP says November 25th. You guys can get back to me or message Jeff Palin and Jeff. 945 01:15:46,850 --> 01:15:51,390 No, I don't believe so. I think it's just catered. If I hear anything I'll let you know I'm good. 946 01:15:52,230 --> 01:15:53,010 You have a cost? 947 01:15:55,550 --> 01:15:58,190 No, once she figures it all out I think she'd give you something like that. 948 01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:08,480 I need a motion. 949 01:16:08,860 --> 01:16:11,840 I don't like the motion just formality and way to do it every year or something. 950 01:16:14,900 --> 01:16:20,840 But there might be a way to think about doing something else, right? 951 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:25,220 I mean we're not going to do it this year but moving forward. 952 01:16:25,220 --> 01:16:29,060 We're talking about that every year like that, well because it's expensive. I know 953 01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:37,880 Obviously they're having it so more and more fire fighters, and it's not that they don't we don't appreciate them, but it's 954 01:16:39,500 --> 01:16:40,260 It's a change 955 01:16:43,870 --> 01:16:47,430 Anyways, why did what is the cost thing is that we don't know 956 01:16:47,430 --> 01:16:50,470 I think it was based on how many people go 957 01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:56,900 There's a motion on the table 958 01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:20,640 I think they should come to the decision whether or not they're going to do it every year and 959 01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:26,120 just do it because one council decided they weren't going to do it, one council not showing 960 01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:36,920 appreciation for you know yeah and one thing you could think about maybe is by 961 01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:40,820 the population like pay a percentage like we do with the fire department instead of 962 01:17:40,820 --> 01:17:44,440 paying an equal share I mean 963 01:17:46,710 --> 01:17:50,930 population of some municipalities might be 1400 964 01:17:50,930 --> 01:17:56,490 100 where ours is 400 and we're paying an equal share or we're paying I don't 965 01:17:56,490 --> 01:18:01,250 know the breakdown yeah but other units about it already paying three times as 966 01:18:01,250 --> 01:18:06,530 much anyway because they've got more people paying yeah yeah they're already 967 01:18:06,530 --> 01:18:11,670 paying three times much yeah so that probably balances out pretty close 968 01:18:14,420 --> 01:18:17,680 Any help? John made the motion? All in favor? 969 01:18:18,140 --> 01:18:18,360 Yes. 970 01:18:22,220 --> 01:18:22,520 Lawrence? 971 01:18:23,380 --> 01:18:23,680 Yes. 972 01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:24,880 Okay. 973 01:18:25,420 --> 01:18:26,640 I don't say no, it's yes. 974 01:18:34,480 --> 01:18:38,800 Pontiac Journal of Christmas ad. Motion to participate in Christmas ad. 975 01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,620 The journals cost $81 in color. 976 01:18:43,060 --> 01:18:49,180 But we're over budget as far as publications. 977 01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:53,180 So I say we don't, we don't do it. 978 01:19:01,460 --> 01:19:04,000 That require no motion or a motion to not accept? 979 01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:05,860 You'd have to do the motion and then vote. 980 01:19:06,780 --> 01:19:06,980 Oh. 981 01:19:07,440 --> 01:19:07,600 Yeah. 982 01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:10,180 Motion to do it and then vote? 983 01:19:10,480 --> 01:19:10,560 Yep. 984 01:19:10,700 --> 01:19:10,900 Okay. 985 01:19:11,900 --> 01:19:12,700 Anybody want to have an example? 986 01:19:12,700 --> 01:19:14,600 You can do it or not do it. 987 01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:16,480 Yeah, or the motion either way. 988 01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:18,400 As long as you all agree. 989 01:19:18,500 --> 01:19:21,060 I make the motion that we not participate in the 990 01:19:21,060 --> 01:19:21,880 in the Christmas act. 991 01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:22,200 Okay. 992 01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:26,800 Based on the fact that we're voting. 993 01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,560 Based on the fact that we're voting. 994 01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:29,940 budget. 995 01:19:32,020 --> 01:19:34,680 The reason for that is explaining 996 01:19:37,140 --> 01:19:41,020 this afternoon when you've got new things 997 01:19:41,020 --> 01:19:44,260 that you don't normally have and you have to make a publication because they're 998 01:19:44,260 --> 01:19:50,400 hiring a student or hiring a new. And I think that with our mail chip our staff 999 01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:55,760 wishes everybody Merry Christmas anyways. It was the sale of the 1000 01:19:55,760 --> 01:20:00,220 tracks in Treler too because we had to post it again. It's also how long your 1001 01:20:00,220 --> 01:20:07,000 public notices when you have to do French and English, you know, there's information you have to put in it and it's expensive. 1002 01:20:07,700 --> 01:20:08,960 Like some ads are $500. 1003 01:20:09,100 --> 01:20:10,940 I think it could be used in better ways. 1004 01:20:11,380 --> 01:20:12,980 Well, keep it in mind in budget time. 1005 01:20:13,060 --> 01:20:13,620 Or something. 1006 01:20:14,220 --> 01:20:16,160 Raise it a bit because the cost of everything is going up. 1007 01:20:16,340 --> 01:20:16,580 Yeah. 1008 01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:20,680 Get to the point where we can't afford to publish what we want publishing. 1009 01:20:26,020 --> 01:20:28,340 So Karen made a motion to not all those in favor? 1010 01:20:28,740 --> 01:20:28,860 Yeah. 1011 01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:31,240 Under the circumstances, yeah. 1012 01:20:31,420 --> 01:20:31,640 Fast. 1013 01:20:35,710 --> 01:20:37,150 Reliance Recycling Contract, 1014 01:20:39,980 --> 01:20:49,300 the current recycling contract with Lavellas, but this is the last year? 1015 01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:55,820 Yeah, so every second contract goes till 2026, we normally sign it for three years every time, 1016 01:20:56,080 --> 01:21:01,180 but because the MRC is going to be taking over the competency for all our recycling, 1017 01:21:01,480 --> 01:21:03,580 but they're only taking over in 2026. 1018 01:21:03,580 --> 01:21:07,460 So we need to break our contract with them and just sign a one-year 1019 01:21:11,020 --> 01:21:16,520 Yeah, I have the new contract and everything they've actually lowered their thoughts. No, it's breaking 1020 01:21:17,060 --> 01:21:20,980 So we were supposed to going into next year. We were supposed to be increased by seven percent 1021 01:21:20,980 --> 01:21:28,140 But now because they're competing with McGermann they kept it at five percent. So we're at the same as this year 1022 01:21:34,030 --> 01:21:35,990 Dick makes the motion all in favor 1023 01:21:35,990 --> 01:21:36,650 Yes. 1024 01:21:37,830 --> 01:21:38,350 Fast. 1025 01:21:46,630 --> 01:21:48,350 The sanding contract, motion. 1026 01:21:48,590 --> 01:21:48,770 One more. 1027 01:21:49,170 --> 01:21:49,450 No. 1028 01:21:49,990 --> 01:21:50,530 This one? 1029 01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:53,340 Nope. 1030 01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:56,480 Item U. 1031 01:21:56,980 --> 01:21:59,220 Motion to accept the EEQ contract. 1032 01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:06,840 So that contract is the big contract that the MRC is putting together right now to be in charge of all of our recycling for 2026. 1033 01:22:09,870 --> 01:22:10,590 In charge of what? 1034 01:22:10,750 --> 01:22:11,770 All of our recycling. 1035 01:22:12,190 --> 01:22:12,910 All of our recycling. 1036 01:22:13,190 --> 01:22:13,390 Yeah. 1037 01:22:13,410 --> 01:22:14,350 They're taking over the MRC. 1038 01:22:14,350 --> 01:22:15,790 They're completely going to take over, yeah. 1039 01:22:16,650 --> 01:22:19,070 And any idea what the cost is for the beef? 1040 01:22:19,510 --> 01:22:19,570 No. 1041 01:22:19,810 --> 01:22:21,790 So this is to be able to allow them to go to tender. 1042 01:22:22,990 --> 01:22:24,350 OK, I'll make that more significant. 1043 01:22:25,750 --> 01:22:26,970 It's all 18 minutes. 1044 01:22:27,270 --> 01:22:27,670 What's that going to look like? 1045 01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:31,360 They're not 100% sure yet. 1046 01:22:31,940 --> 01:22:35,100 They're hoping how it's going to go is that everything is taken care 1047 01:22:35,100 --> 01:22:36,840 of by the MRT and then we're just built. 1048 01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,160 They're trying to figure out how it's going to work 1049 01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:43,200 because we get money back for our recycling, how they're going 1050 01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:43,800 to break that link. 1051 01:22:43,980 --> 01:22:46,100 So all of that still, they were technically supposed 1052 01:22:46,100 --> 01:22:50,940 to have it ready for 2025 and they're behind, so they push it back in every year. 1053 01:22:51,540 --> 01:22:56,560 Yeah, but as the year goes on in 2025, we'll get all the new ones. 1054 01:22:58,510 --> 01:23:01,150 Don't expect it to be in the future. 1055 01:23:01,990 --> 01:23:02,170 No? 1056 01:23:02,590 --> 01:23:03,510 Of course not. 1057 01:23:05,110 --> 01:23:10,930 Consider the MRC couldn't mark that, so in this regard, let's see, first in. 1058 01:23:12,870 --> 01:23:14,710 We basically don't have a choice. 1059 01:23:17,170 --> 01:23:20,130 They should have technically been taking care of our recycling this whole time. 1060 01:23:20,410 --> 01:23:23,750 It is a competency that the MRC is just like our garbage. 1061 01:23:23,970 --> 01:23:28,670 They're in charge of our garbage contract and we pay it, but it should have always been for recycling. 1062 01:23:29,010 --> 01:23:31,990 One of the things they want to do is they want a house-to-house collection. 1063 01:23:34,810 --> 01:23:37,670 I'm not sure how that's going to be any cheaper. 1064 01:23:37,850 --> 01:23:41,790 It's going to be way more expensive, I know it already, but they just have this genuine 1065 01:23:41,790 --> 01:23:47,090 and Nina was currently in charge of a lot of this. 1066 01:23:47,190 --> 01:23:50,390 They just set this vision that everyone should be the same. 1067 01:23:51,070 --> 01:23:52,810 Everyone should get both compost 1068 01:23:53,390 --> 01:23:56,430 and a recycle picked up at the door. 1069 01:23:57,110 --> 01:23:58,430 Doesn't matter where you live. 1070 01:23:59,130 --> 01:24:00,950 Wouldn't be there full time or part time. 1071 01:24:01,150 --> 01:24:02,550 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the law 1072 01:24:02,550 --> 01:24:05,030 is making them pick up organic matter at your door. 1073 01:24:05,690 --> 01:24:06,350 Is that correct, Senator? 1074 01:24:08,550 --> 01:24:17,390 Well, they pushed it back to 26. The province initially said 25. The province has a mandate 1075 01:24:17,390 --> 01:24:23,070 to try to produce everything in province and recycle everything in province. They call 1076 01:24:23,070 --> 01:24:27,670 it a cradle to grave approach when it comes to provincial waste. They're also not opening 1077 01:24:27,670 --> 01:24:32,490 any more, they've said they're not opening any more landfills. So when the LaShin landfill 1078 01:24:32,490 --> 01:24:38,550 is full. There won't be anywhere, at least according to the current plan, for the 1079 01:24:38,550 --> 01:24:44,570 waste to go. So they're pushing for all organic waste to be picked up door-to- 1080 01:24:44,570 --> 01:24:51,650 door, province-wide, by 2026. Which is incredibly expensive in an area like 1081 01:24:51,650 --> 01:24:55,510 this. Really quite silly, right? It's all foolish. 1082 01:24:57,890 --> 01:24:58,930 And that's, you know, just get 1083 01:24:58,930 --> 01:25:06,710 The impact of this business we've been fighting with the waste committee is that that's one 1084 01:25:06,710 --> 01:25:10,970 of the things we've been saying, what do you say, you know, again for this, you know, first 1085 01:25:10,970 --> 01:25:14,330 of all, we all have, there are a lot of us in areas like this, we have transfer sites 1086 01:25:14,330 --> 01:25:19,670 that are reasonably well run, people are used to bringing their, you know, their compost, 1087 01:25:20,490 --> 01:25:27,190 the recycling to that, that location and why not pick it up there, you know, it's 1088 01:25:27,190 --> 01:25:33,210 just a one-stop thing as opposed to incurring huge expenses. 1089 01:25:33,390 --> 01:25:35,190 And I think in Water Lake or something like that, 1090 01:25:35,310 --> 01:25:38,930 they figured it would be like an extra $100,000 a year 1091 01:25:38,930 --> 01:25:43,110 or something ridiculous to do the door-to-door stuff 1092 01:25:43,110 --> 01:25:44,930 in the rural areas. 1093 01:25:46,770 --> 01:25:48,930 Well, Ashley, do we have a choice 1094 01:25:48,930 --> 01:25:51,930 that we can have the municipality know 1095 01:25:51,930 --> 01:25:53,150 we don't want you to do that? 1096 01:25:53,450 --> 01:25:55,630 At this point, this is just to allow. 1097 01:25:55,630 --> 01:26:00,370 this contract is just to allow them to do a recycling that you don't really have 1098 01:26:00,370 --> 01:26:04,170 a choice I mean they're not there yet they're not there yet yeah there's time 1099 01:26:04,170 --> 01:26:07,310 to there's time to yeah I think more will come out and there'll be more 1100 01:26:07,310 --> 01:26:11,050 discussions or municipalities about it the idea would be that it wouldn't be 1101 01:26:11,050 --> 01:26:14,570 the municipality themselves buying a truck to do that it would be two trucks 1102 01:26:14,570 --> 01:26:17,270 that they would buy at the MRC that would serve all of us 1103 01:26:19,410 --> 01:26:22,470 It's just kind of how they explained it, but it's still again in planning. 1104 01:26:34,930 --> 01:26:36,050 Dick makes the motion. 1105 01:26:36,510 --> 01:26:37,230 It's all in favor? 1106 01:26:37,870 --> 01:26:38,130 Yes. 1107 01:26:39,370 --> 01:26:39,650 Fast. 1108 01:26:47,810 --> 01:26:53,850 The sanding contract, the motion to hire Roy Pirro again, he's agreed to do it for 1109 01:26:53,850 --> 01:26:55,130 the same price as last year. 1110 01:26:58,790 --> 01:27:01,850 It includes the transfer site, the parking lot here, the driveway out, 1111 01:27:06,610 --> 01:27:06,990 it's Rick. 1112 01:27:09,630 --> 01:27:10,630 And what's that contract? 1113 01:27:11,290 --> 01:27:12,010 $1,700. 1114 01:27:12,010 --> 01:27:13,630 $100 plus tax. 1115 01:27:22,070 --> 01:27:22,830 Call those in favor? 1116 01:27:31,660 --> 01:27:35,900 Council meeting dates, motion to approve the dates picked for 2025. 1117 01:27:36,740 --> 01:27:37,600 That's presented. 1118 01:27:51,380 --> 01:27:53,480 If not, you have to go with the French one. 1119 01:27:54,420 --> 01:27:55,920 French meeting is the day before. 1120 01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,720 The only ones you cannot change is October and November, just because of the 1121 01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:00,820 elections and the way it went. 1122 01:28:06,740 --> 01:28:09,740 Sit in with the whole hall. You did a good job on that, didn't you? 1123 01:28:10,140 --> 01:28:10,620 Yeah, okay. 1124 01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,300 Do you need a motion? 1125 01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:14,920 Yes. 1126 01:28:15,100 --> 01:28:16,280 I'll make that motion. 1127 01:28:17,060 --> 01:28:19,140 We accept the council meeting dates. 1128 01:28:21,670 --> 01:28:23,470 Karen makes the motion. All in favor? 1129 01:28:23,810 --> 01:28:23,990 Yeah. 1130 01:28:24,470 --> 01:28:24,530 Yeah. 1131 01:28:24,810 --> 01:28:25,210 Fast. 1132 01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:32,640 Number eight is committees. 1133 01:28:38,250 --> 01:28:40,410 A Interminational Committee Meeting Report. 1134 01:28:41,850 --> 01:28:46,990 I wasn't unable to attend due to 1135 01:28:48,530 --> 01:28:55,230 family matters but Ashley was there I'll let her explain. Yeah so it was the same 1136 01:28:55,230 --> 01:29:00,850 conversation just sharing resources and what everybody thought about it. This 1137 01:29:00,850 --> 01:29:05,770 meeting included Wolfman so they were there for a while they left and now 1138 01:29:05,770 --> 01:29:11,530 they're back at the table discussing things. Cory did a little presentation I 1139 01:29:11,530 --> 01:29:15,690 think I sent it to everyone in the emails. He wants to have the mamash 1140 01:29:15,690 --> 01:29:20,890 involved in helping us, if we do decide to share resources, to show us step-by-step how it would work. 1141 01:29:22,650 --> 01:29:30,710 They are looking now that, you guys kind of had a couple meetings, they want to make sure the council's fully involved 1142 01:29:30,710 --> 01:29:36,310 and interested in actually sharing. So they want a motion that the Council of the Municipality of Schembroke 1143 01:29:36,310 --> 01:29:40,830 supports the continued discussions and exploration of service sharing options with the other three 1144 01:29:40,830 --> 01:29:44,930 in neighboring municipalities, and that the Council of Municipalities Schembroke identifies 1145 01:29:44,930 --> 01:29:50,670 the priorities for potential service sharing, especially in the areas of, so they're asking 1146 01:29:50,670 --> 01:29:55,810 each council if they would like to precisely say things they're interested in sharing. 1147 01:29:56,910 --> 01:29:59,610 So Doris is suggesting was she was really 1148 01:29:59,610 --> 01:29:59,970 a 1149 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:06,960 Wanting to share public works, is one of the ones she brought up, administration, and the 1150 01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:10,680 Pathway Mine and Heritage Building Committee. We are required to have a 1151 01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:16,680 committee on each council right now for heritage buildings and demolition and how 1152 01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:21,100 that's all going to go. She would like to have one council committee, sorry, for all 1153 01:30:21,100 --> 01:30:26,860 four instead of having one for each municipality. Myself, I think public works 1154 01:30:26,860 --> 01:30:30,000 Again, it's a big one that we could definitely share. 1155 01:30:30,740 --> 01:30:32,360 For me, accounting would have been great. 1156 01:30:32,900 --> 01:30:34,660 And I believe for equipment purchases, 1157 01:30:35,500 --> 01:30:37,800 big expenditures, we could definitely share 1158 01:30:38,270 --> 01:30:39,280 and make it worth our money. 1159 01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,080 We had finally resolved that council supports 1160 01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:43,820 establishing any necessary framework 1161 01:30:44,170 --> 01:30:46,340 on consultations with any related ministries 1162 01:30:46,770 --> 01:30:48,540 to ensure a structured and productive approach 1163 01:30:48,540 --> 01:30:50,400 to these discussions and future collaboration. 1164 01:30:50,700 --> 01:30:52,700 However, any future commitment to sharing of services 1165 01:30:52,700 --> 01:30:54,540 of any kind must be approved 1166 01:30:54,540 --> 01:30:56,320 about each municipal council as discussed. 1167 01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:58,760 Alicia just wanted to make sure that this isn't 1168 01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:00,180 that you're agreeing to recommend specific, 1169 01:31:00,700 --> 01:31:02,200 just that you really are on board. 1170 01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:06,160 And they just wanted to hear council's thoughts 1171 01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:07,580 if there was certain things. 1172 01:31:11,480 --> 01:31:12,980 Second one, sorry. 1173 01:31:13,180 --> 01:31:16,100 Public works, on your agenda. 1174 01:31:16,300 --> 01:31:16,440 On your agenda. 1175 01:31:16,980 --> 01:31:18,100 Third is different than yours. 1176 01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:18,500 Is it? 1177 01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:19,380 Sorry. 1178 01:31:20,340 --> 01:31:22,560 And then for me, I said public works, accounting 1179 01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:23,640 and equipment purchases. 1180 01:31:25,140 --> 01:31:27,980 I wanted to add dump to that for transfer sites. 1181 01:31:30,980 --> 01:31:34,800 I was going back to Dick saying that we have no choice but to get in on the MRC thing. 1182 01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:38,480 We could look at being independent from that and finding out what our cost would be 1183 01:31:38,480 --> 01:31:41,860 if you can sell items from the dump and turn it into a money maker. 1184 01:31:42,820 --> 01:31:46,720 And then if there is a truck that has to go around and pick on everything up, 1185 01:31:46,820 --> 01:31:49,820 there would only be one stop for that truck to make and not two. 1186 01:31:56,340 --> 01:32:05,500 We initiated a survey for best practices at all the transfer sites, and the MRC has just more or less varied it. 1187 01:32:05,660 --> 01:32:05,960 Oh yeah? 1188 01:32:07,340 --> 01:32:08,320 It's disappeared. 1189 01:32:10,380 --> 01:32:14,180 Another big one that was on the table for discussion was grants. 1190 01:32:15,580 --> 01:32:17,860 But with that not the other administration? 1191 01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:21,300 Yeah, but they were speaking specifically. 1192 01:32:21,540 --> 01:32:24,220 Because in Chapel they have Chantaleur who does community development. 1193 01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:28,160 But she does a lot of grants, like she's just always looking for grants. 1194 01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:31,260 It's a time consuming thing. 1195 01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:36,140 And I mean if you're doing it for one, why not do it for four, right? 1196 01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,060 Exactly. So she finds a grant that we can all use. 1197 01:32:39,300 --> 01:32:42,440 And she's doing the application, I'm using her as an example. 1198 01:32:42,440 --> 01:32:45,560 doing the application four times. 1199 01:32:45,820 --> 01:32:46,820 That's Grant's office? 1200 01:32:48,500 --> 01:32:50,100 Grant's would be yeah, you know. 1201 01:32:50,660 --> 01:32:51,060 Yeah, exactly. 1202 01:32:53,100 --> 01:32:54,360 What's the use of a court? 1203 01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:58,340 The MRC is still pushing for a municipal court. 1204 01:32:59,020 --> 01:33:00,040 We haven't heard anything of it. 1205 01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:01,960 What does that involve? 1206 01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:04,480 Instead of a provincial court. 1207 01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:07,660 It's like when you get a fine for a bylaw fine. 1208 01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,060 Right now there's nobody to enforce it. 1209 01:33:19,500 --> 01:33:24,600 I had an interesting conversation yesterday with Ken Doyle's daughter, Hannah Doyle. 1210 01:33:24,700 --> 01:33:29,200 She works for the federal government in dispersing funding and stuff like that. 1211 01:33:29,820 --> 01:33:36,820 And even the federal government is really interested in sharing, communities sharing 1212 01:33:36,820 --> 01:33:44,060 and municipality sharing and if you're sharing something you're if you if there 1213 01:33:44,060 --> 01:33:49,580 was a grant for to do something for one municipality if two benefit they're to 1214 01:33:49,580 --> 01:33:54,780 got together on it the funding goes up by 10% and could be as high as 90% of 1215 01:33:54,780 --> 01:33:59,260 the cost. There's also a lot of grants that you point to criteria when you apply 1216 01:33:59,260 --> 01:34:03,560 for your grants and if you are sharing with the neighboring municipality you 1217 01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:10,460 get extra points. So she gave some documentation and a website to Doris 1218 01:34:12,060 --> 01:34:16,260 and instructed Doris to give it to Ashley. Ashley hasn't received it yet, 1219 01:34:16,480 --> 01:34:21,300 but on the website it'll have further explanations of what she can do. She's 1220 01:34:21,300 --> 01:34:28,180 worked with Chai Chester in the past. I think it was the project paving the 1221 01:34:28,180 --> 01:34:31,940 road to Nicobar, I'm not sure, but a project that has gone through, she was 1222 01:34:31,940 --> 01:34:36,300 involved and she said at work when she brings up Pontiac like Sheenbrough and 1223 01:34:36,300 --> 01:34:39,940 Chai Chester like she knows the federal government knows where we are and who we 1224 01:34:39,940 --> 01:34:47,600 are and she'd be willing to come in and speak with us and help us to apply same 1225 01:34:49,940 --> 01:34:59,160 as Jim Jennings his daughter was her job with the Biodomarket to apply for 1226 01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:03,440 grants and she's offered to help us too so maybe one of them would be 1227 01:35:03,440 --> 01:35:09,300 interested in the position through municipal cooperation to take on the 1228 01:35:09,300 --> 01:35:18,780 so you need a motion stating that we're interested in continuing these talks yeah 1229 01:35:18,780 --> 01:35:24,040 and if at all possible three things that you would know as a council but you're 1230 01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:30,160 definitely interested in you're kind of just trying to get a feel so there 1231 01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:34,880 was public works, the heritage community, county and administration, transfer sites, 1232 01:35:36,060 --> 01:35:38,380 equipment purchases, and grids. 1233 01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:42,260 Equipment purchases was just what my list would be. 1234 01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:47,800 Public works and accounting would be the ones I would suggest we're putting down through. 1235 01:35:49,540 --> 01:35:51,040 So they just want three. 1236 01:35:52,340 --> 01:35:56,160 Yeah, I think they're just trying to narrow down to the... 1237 01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:59,380 This isn't set in stone, this doesn't mean these are doing anything. 1238 01:36:00,380 --> 01:36:02,980 I think part of this is grants. 1239 01:36:07,140 --> 01:36:08,480 Grants are very time consuming. 1240 01:36:10,900 --> 01:36:11,380 There 1241 01:36:20,180 --> 01:36:24,680 were some comments made at the meeting where it looks like the little municipality 1242 01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:29,020 in trouble is asking for help from the big municipality, but then it was counteracted 1243 01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:32,720 with, well you're a building inspector, just quit and you need one. 1244 01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:37,600 when we needed one yours was too busy to help but now you need one would you like 1245 01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:43,160 ours to us ours to help you you know so you can't go by what's going on today 1246 01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:47,160 you got to think of what could happen and how you need someone's help and if we 1247 01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:52,180 were sharing easier so motion 1248 01:37:11,740 --> 01:37:15,510 the grants and to think about it 1249 01:37:18,260 --> 01:37:24,220 but you know but that could change like you said 1250 01:37:24,220 --> 01:37:32,100 right depending on the situation that we're in. Like why do we have to state 1251 01:37:32,100 --> 01:37:38,080 that even? I think it was just to give her an idea of where to start like she 1252 01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:41,940 wanted to get an idea from all four municipalities to see like what we all 1253 01:37:41,940 --> 01:37:46,800 four are interested in if there's one common denominator in the four I think 1254 01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:51,100 Walton didn't come up with any when I talked to my next she said that they just 1255 01:37:51,100 --> 01:37:55,040 went with the motion and didn't say anything but her counsel she said was 1256 01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:56,480 very divided still 1257 01:37:59,270 --> 01:38:04,650 the everybody's got that in fear of amalgamation but it's 1258 01:38:04,650 --> 01:38:10,990 not it's not the sharing of tax bases or expenses or anything it's just 1259 01:38:11,730 --> 01:38:16,770 It makes sense. I've always thought that it makes sense to share things that make sense. 1260 01:38:16,970 --> 01:38:21,910 Yes. Some things don't. Some things do. It's pretty obvious that every council gets involved 1261 01:38:21,910 --> 01:38:24,610 but nothing will participate or not, then everybody's covered. 1262 01:38:25,010 --> 01:38:28,490 But I find you have to have the mindset going in that you want to find stuff. 1263 01:38:29,470 --> 01:38:33,590 Like with the sweeper, it was like, oh, we need our sweeper, I should help with stuff like that. 1264 01:38:33,850 --> 01:38:38,590 I'm like, no, no, let's give it a try. For one year, share the cost of a sweeper 1265 01:38:38,590 --> 01:38:40,210 see if we can get the work done. 1266 01:38:43,330 --> 01:38:47,590 So deck made motion, all in favor? Yes. 1267 01:38:50,390 --> 01:38:53,810 So do we want to do the equipment purchase, grants? 1268 01:38:59,900 --> 01:39:01,340 Because that's where we are right now. 1269 01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:07,420 In that kind of need. That could change down the road. 1270 01:39:09,480 --> 01:39:11,960 Public works too? You can put forward? 1271 01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,320 Because they're looking for a building inspector, so. 1272 01:39:22,650 --> 01:39:24,590 Okay, number nine, 1273 01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:28,940 item eight, Trout Lake Road. 1274 01:39:31,700 --> 01:39:35,220 Did everyone receive a letter from the lawyer? 1275 01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:39,460 Well, not from the lawyer, but from the lawyer. 1276 01:39:39,460 --> 01:39:41,900 The information Ashley received from the lawyer. 1277 01:39:45,330 --> 01:39:47,990 I felt like most of the information was things we already knew. 1278 01:39:47,990 --> 01:39:49,050 does 1279 01:39:53,750 --> 01:40:01,620 anybody got like a different interpretation of how this is worded like 1280 01:40:01,620 --> 01:40:06,240 the part that I get then was mentioned lots of times before if the road had 1281 01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:11,640 always been and was being maintained in 93 by the municipality but it doesn't 1282 01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:13,080 become an antique you know 1283 01:40:25,140 --> 01:40:31,100 Technically, all these years we did need permission from the MRNF to do any work on their road. 1284 01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:32,820 From the MTQ, you mean? 1285 01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:39,020 Either. We need permission from the MRNF or the MTQ, whichever section you're attaching, really. 1286 01:40:39,420 --> 01:40:42,320 Because they didn't really own the MTQ, they owned it in the process. 1287 01:40:43,020 --> 01:40:48,340 Yeah, so whatever the other governing body would be, you technically have to. 1288 01:40:48,340 --> 01:40:53,560 I have put in a request for an access to information directly to the MTQ. 1289 01:40:54,780 --> 01:40:59,900 What's bothering me the most about the situation is that I can't find the paper that lists 1290 01:41:00,660 --> 01:41:04,980 what our colonization roads were before 93 and what they were after. 1291 01:41:06,180 --> 01:41:09,560 I feel like that's a pretty big part of the puzzle. 1292 01:41:10,580 --> 01:41:15,120 Another thing, I wanted to have a list of the roads under municipal jurisdiction. 1293 01:41:16,440 --> 01:41:21,240 So, I do have a list of the roads registered with the province, which took on a week in 1294 01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:25,080 back, but that's not the entire list of what we're responsible for. 1295 01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:31,600 So, I made that request a week and a half ago, having heard anything back, so I'm still 1296 01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:31,960 waiting. 1297 01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:42,180 Can I suggest that you, with the access to information that you asked them for the 1298 01:41:42,180 --> 01:41:52,020 contract that the MTQ had with Sid Hodges from the Italian island in 98, 89 and 90 to grade 1299 01:41:52,020 --> 01:41:54,500 the roads in chamber when they were all MTQ roads. 1300 01:41:57,640 --> 01:42:00,440 The contract they had with Sid Hodges 1301 01:42:00,440 --> 01:42:05,440 to grade the roads in the municipality. What is it for? What does it get you to get it? 1302 01:42:06,100 --> 01:42:10,600 Because you know you've maintained the road. So you already know as a council you have 1303 01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:14,980 maintain that road past 93 so that's how those other portions come back. No but 1304 01:42:14,980 --> 01:42:20,340 before like all the roads in Sheen were MTQ when Sid Hodgins had the contract he 1305 01:42:20,340 --> 01:42:24,240 was working I was grading Fort William Road and Sheen Road and Downey Road all 1306 01:42:24,820 --> 01:42:30,200 for the MTQ and they turned those roads over to the municipality after that so 1307 01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:35,160 we we had the snow plow contract but they had a great MTQ. So I'm wondering if 1308 01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:39,420 the contract would have a list of roads that Hodgins had to grade because 1309 01:42:39,420 --> 01:42:43,500 I don't remember going to Trout Lake with his grader. 1310 01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:45,120 Okay, and that's through the MTQ? 1311 01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:45,500 Yeah. 1312 01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:48,760 With your teacher? 1313 01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:51,420 Yeah, 88, 89, 90. 1314 01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:53,180 I was in the storage team, 1315 01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:54,860 drove the grader two summers, 1316 01:42:57,610 --> 01:42:57,870 whatever. 1317 01:42:58,630 --> 01:43:00,090 And he's just a part of the contractor? 1318 01:43:00,310 --> 01:43:00,410 Yeah. 1319 01:43:06,700 --> 01:43:07,500 Sydney Hodges. 1320 01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:10,100 But you said you did grader before? 1321 01:43:11,480 --> 01:43:13,680 I don't remember going in there with Hodges grader. 1322 01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:14,960 Hodges, but... 1323 01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:19,300 Well, I have it in there after that for the municipality of Fleming's Greater, yeah, yeah, all the time. 1324 01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:26,360 So, yeah, was maintained, always maintained by the municipality or? 1325 01:43:30,010 --> 01:43:34,730 It was. Well, yeah, the logging company did work in the years to where. 1326 01:43:35,350 --> 01:43:35,550 Yeah. 1327 01:43:36,070 --> 01:43:38,950 That was over and above the municipality in general maintenance here. 1328 01:43:40,630 --> 01:43:43,450 And what are the responsibilities of the NTQ? 1329 01:43:43,450 --> 01:43:49,490 you know to come to you in the last since 1993 and say hey why are you spending 1330 01:43:49,490 --> 01:43:53,950 money on this road it doesn't even belong to you that's our road how come they 1331 01:43:53,950 --> 01:44:00,810 never stepped in because if somebody if there's an accident let's say the 1332 01:44:00,810 --> 01:44:06,950 bridge is closed well you're not supposed to be passing on that bridge but if the 1333 01:44:06,950 --> 01:44:12,850 road is open and something happens, who's going to be reliable for that? 1334 01:44:14,590 --> 01:44:16,570 Well, we're trying to figure this out. 1335 01:44:16,970 --> 01:44:18,670 Yeah, that's a very good question. 1336 01:44:19,690 --> 01:44:24,470 Because they've got the documentation when the Middle East was 1337 01:44:24,470 --> 01:44:28,910 junior minister of transport, where they changed the colonization roads 1338 01:44:28,910 --> 01:44:33,290 over to MTQ or municipality, or if it wasn't maintained by anybody, 1339 01:44:33,290 --> 01:44:39,070 It became the property of the MTQ and the land of which it came off. 1340 01:44:40,370 --> 01:44:47,330 And that's a prime example is the Trichester line at the back of my front. 1341 01:44:49,210 --> 01:44:53,710 Municipality and the MTQ before that maintained bearing in line around the corner, 1342 01:44:53,890 --> 01:44:57,670 but where the Trichester line goes straight through was a colonization road. 1343 01:44:57,670 --> 01:44:59,870 And the municipality after that would never 1344 01:45:00,430 --> 01:45:07,150 Common bus to be damned for me because it was supposed to be mine, but now because it landlocked somebody if you look on the new 1345 01:45:07,150 --> 01:45:08,390 Cadastra, it's 1346 01:45:08,390 --> 01:45:10,190 registered to the province of Tibet 1347 01:45:10,970 --> 01:45:13,070 It's like 450 feet of roads 1348 01:45:16,730 --> 01:45:20,710 So it's to get a definite answer who won't who and we 1349 01:45:21,770 --> 01:45:25,590 Mentioned in the past that the to get this information cost us $650 1350 01:45:26,810 --> 01:45:29,090 but the lawyer told us before to have 1351 01:45:30,910 --> 01:45:36,780 notary do a land search on it did they give you a quote? We got the land 1352 01:45:36,780 --> 01:45:41,020 title search that was one of the first documents we had it's very confusing to 1353 01:45:41,020 --> 01:45:47,800 read it's the one that shows like range so yeah Simon and I took the time one 1354 01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:52,000 afternoon it went through and cross-reference go down in and our taxation 1355 01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:56,380 software and it ends up being all those little tiny portions that are ours so 1356 01:45:59,770 --> 01:46:04,030 that was mentioned here tonight to hang on to that so you have a 1357 01:46:04,030 --> 01:46:21,990 part of the road that we own is at the very end and in the province of Quebec they can't landlock you so when you're asking for permission from the MNRF to fix a washout along Trout Lake they can't say no because they're blocking their denying the access 1358 01:46:26,620 --> 01:46:27,860 It's illegal and probably not possible. 1359 01:46:27,860 --> 01:46:28,580 They shouldn't say no. 1360 01:46:29,620 --> 01:46:30,600 That doesn't mean they can't. 1361 01:46:30,700 --> 01:46:35,880 According to that, that would you have picked there before we voted on this number. 1362 01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:38,760 It stated that they will not maintain the road. 1363 01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:41,000 And that's our big concern. 1364 01:46:41,300 --> 01:46:44,900 Who owns the damn road really doesn't make any different law if someone is going to maintain it. 1365 01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:46,700 But they made it clear they won't. 1366 01:46:47,140 --> 01:46:47,580 Users. 1367 01:46:48,020 --> 01:46:48,640 User-maintained. 1368 01:46:50,060 --> 01:46:51,920 That goes back to your question earlier. 1369 01:46:53,460 --> 01:46:55,220 They never said they're going to close the road. 1370 01:46:55,220 --> 01:47:00,300 but like I told you last month the road will close itself in bad weather or trees 1371 01:47:00,300 --> 01:47:09,320 falling down or and they won't fix it because when they did the I forget what 1372 01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:25,200 Europe was there maybe that's where they did the mistakes there no it's not 1373 01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:29,900 Okay, if you take the selenium, they're all cadastridium? 1374 01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:35,420 And it's not like, can we turn the, not the part of, 1375 01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:36,560 not the part of them? 1376 01:47:37,460 --> 01:47:38,660 You mean the other lads? 1377 01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:42,580 Yeah, no, there has to be other lads 1378 01:47:42,580 --> 01:47:44,380 that cadastridium has to be. 1379 01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:45,740 Some roads are cadastridium, some are not. 1380 01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:47,140 Well, okay. 1381 01:47:47,220 --> 01:47:49,040 And Mr. Raymond, we have to keep going here, please. 1382 01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:49,440 Oh, okay. 1383 01:47:49,500 --> 01:47:49,740 Sorry. 1384 01:47:51,300 --> 01:47:52,820 It's, there's lots down there yet. 1385 01:47:53,540 --> 01:47:56,680 So, anyhow, we'll keep gathering information. 1386 01:47:57,520 --> 01:48:00,480 We've got some requests out now, we're waiting for that to come back. 1387 01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:04,360 And if anybody else finds anything, please bring it to our attention. 1388 01:48:06,540 --> 01:48:12,320 They say, I was told by the MNRF that their surveyors are busy until the end of 25, 1389 01:48:12,660 --> 01:48:17,780 but if this happens in the next couple of months, well, it won't be good. 1390 01:48:17,780 --> 01:48:17,780 it. 1391 01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:24,320 So done. 1392 01:48:27,910 --> 01:48:36,830 PPA C grant motion fixed bump in Primbo Hill with the grant instead of original 1393 01:48:36,830 --> 01:48:39,370 request for gravel on Sullivan and ICO Road. 1394 01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:47,980 So they get that tender. 1395 01:48:52,180 --> 01:48:53,480 Ashley went ahead 1396 01:48:53,480 --> 01:48:59,480 and talked to a Milton Kidd, an imitational bid to come and have a look at the Prembo Hill. 1397 01:49:00,220 --> 01:49:05,360 And he's going to agree to do two transitions where those bad heaves are. 1398 01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:13,520 And there's still two weeks before Greenwood Paving shuts down their asphalt plant for the season. 1399 01:49:14,060 --> 01:49:19,060 And he says if we made a motion tonight to go ahead with this, that he could have it done before the asphalt plant closes. 1400 01:49:20,180 --> 01:49:26,480 I went and had a look at it this afternoon and I was talking to Milton later and we were 1401 01:49:26,480 --> 01:49:35,320 in agreement beyond this in order to fix the transition towards the bottom of the hill, 1402 01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:37,380 just below Janet Reddy's driveway. 1403 01:49:38,060 --> 01:49:42,080 The ditches would have to be clean and she has about a 12-inch culvert that's nearly 1404 01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:47,420 full that gets blocked solid right from in there and I would suggest that we change 1405 01:49:47,420 --> 01:49:52,420 that now I'm stepping down as mayor to road committee chairman it changed that to a 1406 01:49:52,420 --> 01:50:00,280 six maybe an 18 or 20-inch culvert that's longer there's a big bell line 1407 01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:05,760 box they're doing but I think they're obsolete now but we should try and get a 1408 01:50:06,860 --> 01:50:11,660 locates done ASAP and if the lad says those lines are dead but I'll rip them 1409 01:50:11,660 --> 01:50:16,960 when they're there that phone box never but he can you can't really fix the 1410 01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:21,920 lower one without lowering the ditches because they filled up so much and to get 1411 01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:26,200 the water to run out of a French drain or a weeping tile that they might put in 1412 01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:37,620 there it has to have a place to go the quote come in at 25995 plus applicable 1413 01:50:37,620 --> 01:50:44,520 taxes and we have the budget for it I don't see the additional work of 1414 01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:51,140 ditching and changing the culvert beam any more than five so that comes out of 1415 01:50:51,140 --> 01:50:54,640 your your members grant that you get 18,000 for when we originally flight 1416 01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:58,680 it was just for gravel I talked to them down at Andre Fortes office and she 1417 01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:03,020 said you're able to switch it to a different project that's fine and he's 1418 01:51:03,020 --> 01:51:08,020 also going to use the gravel that we've already have in our bed and you 1419 01:51:08,020 --> 01:51:08,860 That's the money in the budget. 1420 01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:14,220 And we were supposed to do it this time last year. 1421 01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:14,960 I'm going to do it. 1422 01:51:15,380 --> 01:51:16,860 I told you I was getting through that list. 1423 01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:19,480 It's time to get through the list. 1424 01:51:19,820 --> 01:51:20,640 The time's running out. 1425 01:51:21,180 --> 01:51:21,580 Exactly. 1426 01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:24,800 So you need a motion? 1427 01:51:25,020 --> 01:51:27,520 Motion to accept enough assistance. 1428 01:51:28,100 --> 01:51:28,920 I'll make that one. 1429 01:51:32,170 --> 01:51:35,230 That's just under public works. 1430 01:51:35,850 --> 01:51:37,710 Who's doing the work on the Butler line? 1431 01:51:38,910 --> 01:51:40,450 That's the ATV club. 1432 01:51:41,570 --> 01:51:48,190 Okay, they had asked for Darcy line, but they had never asked for the Butler line. 1433 01:51:48,270 --> 01:51:50,310 They came in and saw us here when Doris was here. 1434 01:51:50,890 --> 01:51:55,030 We could go and we could do brushing and we sat there and were like, just... 1435 01:51:55,670 --> 01:51:56,390 Doris, Doris. 1436 01:51:58,930 --> 01:52:00,910 So that's below? 1437 01:52:01,590 --> 01:52:02,690 It's on this side, yeah. 1438 01:52:03,290 --> 01:52:05,930 Are they doing the whole thing all the way down? 1439 01:52:05,970 --> 01:52:06,690 I don't think so. 1440 01:52:06,810 --> 01:52:08,150 They should be done by now. 1441 01:52:10,510 --> 01:52:12,450 They said widen up the end of it. 1442 01:52:12,910 --> 01:52:16,010 well they're just widening the end they're just why I don't know how far 1443 01:52:16,010 --> 01:52:20,070 they went but they were I guess when you first came in it was I don't know I didn't 1444 01:52:20,070 --> 01:52:25,870 see it yeah you can see it when you drive I don't know I didn't get it to see 1445 01:52:25,870 --> 01:52:31,730 the whole thing I came through a pair of road today and I saw the AKB signs okay 1446 01:52:32,450 --> 01:52:38,790 those little tiny signs like this like there should be bigger signs and they 1447 01:52:38,790 --> 01:52:45,650 should be more prominent of giving direction like this is the government 1448 01:52:45,650 --> 01:52:52,390 would make them do that yeah we have to do the government tell us what to do 1449 01:52:52,390 --> 01:52:58,450 and give us designs I don't have any issue with that the issue I'm having is 1450 01:52:58,450 --> 01:53:06,010 assigned it's so small that and going up to the bottom of the line there's a 1451 01:53:06,010 --> 01:53:11,590 black kind of arrow at the bottom of this little sign showing people where to go. 1452 01:53:11,770 --> 01:53:12,630 You can't tell? 1453 01:53:13,170 --> 01:53:14,110 You can't tell. 1454 01:53:14,470 --> 01:53:14,630 Mike. 1455 01:53:15,090 --> 01:53:15,330 Mike. 1456 01:53:16,150 --> 01:53:16,690 On the corner. 1457 01:53:17,190 --> 01:53:17,710 No, it's true. 1458 01:53:17,870 --> 01:53:18,170 It's true. 1459 01:53:18,890 --> 01:53:19,330 It's true. 1460 01:53:19,970 --> 01:53:20,490 Sorry. 1461 01:53:21,090 --> 01:53:22,110 Better, better seat. 1462 01:53:24,270 --> 01:53:30,750 One thing that I kind of rub me the wrong way was they put up signs too on Sullivan 1463 01:53:30,750 --> 01:53:33,050 Road where you can't go there with a bike anymore. 1464 01:53:33,550 --> 01:53:34,370 Bikes are not allowed there. 1465 01:53:35,290 --> 01:53:37,030 and those signs were never there before. 1466 01:53:39,330 --> 01:53:42,250 According to the law they can use public roads 1467 01:53:42,250 --> 01:53:44,210 to get from one trail to another, 1468 01:53:45,570 --> 01:53:47,930 just so they're signing it that way 1469 01:53:47,930 --> 01:53:50,990 to keep people with passes from going up there, 1470 01:53:51,110 --> 01:53:53,990 but I have to go up there sometimes for my business 1471 01:53:53,990 --> 01:53:55,170 with bike tickets. 1472 01:53:55,170 --> 01:53:56,070 You can't go up legally. 1473 01:53:56,510 --> 01:53:57,830 You can't force them to do that. 1474 01:53:57,910 --> 01:53:59,510 They're talking about going up design. 1475 01:54:00,090 --> 01:54:01,570 You said we're all against it, 1476 01:54:01,650 --> 01:54:02,970 but they're making us put up design. 1477 01:54:02,970 --> 01:54:10,150 that's it that's the new law so you can be to get there I can be fine for using 1478 01:54:10,150 --> 01:54:14,270 the trail without a pass and then to go further up the road to my other farm I 1479 01:54:14,270 --> 01:54:20,150 can be fine for being on the road with a bike I don't know 1480 01:54:33,590 --> 01:54:35,470 It seems to be backwards. 1481 01:54:39,230 --> 01:54:39,890 We have a motion. 1482 01:54:40,250 --> 01:54:41,570 We didn't vote on that. 1483 01:54:41,570 --> 01:54:41,770 No. 1484 01:54:42,190 --> 01:54:44,210 So John raised the motion. 1485 01:54:44,730 --> 01:54:45,630 All in favour? 1486 01:54:45,970 --> 01:54:46,230 Yes. 1487 01:54:51,690 --> 01:54:52,290 Fast. 1488 01:54:59,770 --> 01:55:00,910 Double vocation grant. 1489 01:55:01,250 --> 01:55:03,690 Received confirmation of 11,800. 1490 01:55:04,110 --> 01:55:08,870 Motion to allow the DG to sign all pertaining agreements. 1491 01:55:15,700 --> 01:55:16,620 Rick made the motion. 1492 01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:17,820 All in favour? 1493 01:55:17,940 --> 01:55:18,440 Yes. 1494 01:55:23,660 --> 01:55:33,120 EVL grant, motion that money was spent and authorized for the DG to sign all pertaining documents and receive funding. 1495 01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:36,080 So that's your big grant, your $183,000? 1496 01:55:37,900 --> 01:55:39,000 $183,000. 1497 01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:40,240 Yeah, $183,600. 1498 01:55:40,500 --> 01:55:41,140 Nope. 1499 01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:43,780 And what are your amounts? 1500 01:55:44,100 --> 01:55:44,180 D. 1501 01:55:45,780 --> 01:55:46,860 So that's when you get every year. 1502 01:55:47,940 --> 01:55:51,560 So at the end of the year, you just have to say we didn't spend it on the rents. 1503 01:55:53,900 --> 01:55:55,360 Do you need a motion for that? 1504 01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:55,640 Yes. 1505 01:55:57,620 --> 01:55:59,160 What should the motion be? 1506 01:55:59,380 --> 01:56:03,580 I have a big long government motion. It's just that you spent the money on the rents basically. 1507 01:56:03,740 --> 01:56:05,020 Okay, I'll make that a motion. 1508 01:56:05,060 --> 01:56:06,620 You took the money and actually spent it. 1509 01:56:09,250 --> 01:56:10,970 Dick makes motion. All in favor? 1510 01:56:11,270 --> 01:56:11,450 Yes. 1511 01:56:12,430 --> 01:56:12,810 All right. 1512 01:56:17,860 --> 01:56:19,800 Correspondents, better from a rate clear. 1513 01:56:31,090 --> 01:56:32,250 Mr. Doyle, do you want? 1514 01:56:32,250 --> 01:56:37,570 Yes, so, repair letter number one, Monday, October 28th, 2024. 1515 01:56:38,590 --> 01:56:42,950 Mayor and Councillors, municipality of Sheinbro and Ashley Poirier, Director-General. 1516 01:56:45,450 --> 01:56:49,470 Thank you for the reply from the Director-General, Ashley Poirier, 1517 01:56:49,850 --> 01:56:55,610 dated October 17th, 2024, in regards to my request for dust suppressant on Sullivan Road. 1518 01:56:56,330 --> 01:57:01,110 As you are preparing the municipal budget for 2025, I am requesting that the budget 1519 01:57:01,110 --> 01:57:06,490 include more than two applications of liquid dust suppressant for the year. During the spring and 1520 01:57:06,490 --> 01:57:11,470 summer of 2024, there were two applications of dust suppressant applied to Sullivan Road. 1521 01:57:12,170 --> 01:57:15,330 The two applications, along with the extensive rain during the season, 1522 01:57:15,850 --> 01:57:18,950 did help in controlling the dust better than in previous years, 1523 01:57:19,390 --> 01:57:23,630 but an extra application early in the spring would help in controlling the amount of dust 1524 01:57:23,630 --> 01:57:28,850 earlier in the season. Therefore, I am requesting that the budget includes at least three 1525 01:57:28,850 --> 01:57:35,110 applications of dust suppressant throughout the season, along with a contingency application 1526 01:57:35,730 --> 01:57:39,610 of at least one more in the case that the summer is unusually dry. 1527 01:57:40,490 --> 01:57:45,070 In addition, the application of small amounts of calcium applied by the municipal employees 1528 01:57:45,070 --> 01:57:48,490 periodically is helpful when the dust becomes extensive. 1529 01:57:49,230 --> 01:57:51,790 I thank you in advance for considering this request. 1530 01:57:52,410 --> 01:57:57,630 A reply to this request would be greatly appreciated from Tim Doyle, taxpayer municipality 1531 01:57:57,630 --> 01:57:59,930 Shembro, 7 Sullivan Road. 1532 01:58:10,970 --> 01:58:18,070 Could we discuss this at the budget, too, about tech grant and fixing that permanently? 1533 01:58:18,330 --> 01:58:19,450 Getting that back to where it was? 1534 01:58:20,990 --> 01:58:24,070 We can discuss that when it comes to the budget. 1535 01:58:24,330 --> 01:58:24,610 Yeah. 1536 01:58:24,910 --> 01:58:25,470 Yeah. 1537 01:58:27,030 --> 01:58:36,660 So, as far as replying to Timmy's letter, tell him that we'll send one after the budget 1538 01:58:36,660 --> 01:58:39,680 that we plan on paving it, sister? 1539 01:58:40,460 --> 01:58:42,400 Well, I don't know whether we can say that. 1540 01:58:42,820 --> 01:58:44,620 I don't know whether we can do it. 1541 01:58:44,980 --> 01:58:45,440 I think so. 1542 01:58:46,220 --> 01:58:47,600 We'll respond after the budget. 1543 01:58:47,860 --> 01:58:49,800 Consider his request. 1544 01:58:50,840 --> 01:58:51,280 Yeah. 1545 01:58:54,250 --> 01:58:55,170 He'll do our best. 1546 01:58:55,490 --> 01:58:55,610 Yeah. 1547 01:58:57,110 --> 01:58:57,790 Pray for me. 1548 01:58:58,090 --> 01:58:58,770 Won't be any dust. 1549 01:58:59,230 --> 01:58:59,910 Pray for me? 1550 01:59:00,550 --> 01:59:00,810 Yeah. 1551 01:59:06,260 --> 01:59:08,280 Do you have any other facts there, sister? 1552 01:59:11,500 --> 01:59:12,380 Well, it's... 1553 01:59:12,380 --> 01:59:13,320 That's the thing. 1554 01:59:13,320 --> 01:59:17,520 They had it paid before and then we took that away from them and it upsets people 1555 01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:22,060 The taxes don't go down and you've got less than you had before 1556 01:59:25,220 --> 01:59:30,380 But the traffic and because of the big hill and the two intersections that close 1557 01:59:31,020 --> 01:59:33,000 We need to look at fixing that 1558 01:59:33,000 --> 01:59:34,800 Those are a lot of work to be done there 1559 01:59:34,800 --> 01:59:36,880 Just one 1560 01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:42,960 letter? 1561 01:59:43,380 --> 01:59:45,080 Well, so there's more correspondence 1562 01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:47,400 The next is the West Pontiac Connects 1563 01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:55,970 Okay. So I'll read this. So the Pontiac West Southeast branch from 120 King Street at Lilius 1564 01:59:55,970 --> 01:59:58,750 that you met, October 20th, 2024. 1565 01:59:59,470 --> 01:59:59,970 Dear Mayor, 1566 02:00:01,660 --> 02:00:08,000 Thank you for your generous donation last year. This funding was used primarily for wages as the 1567 02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:14,800 driving for success program was ending in March of 2024. Hence, I want to take this opportunity 1568 02:00:14,800 --> 02:00:21,280 to report on the operations of the center. This DFS program was funded by the Fonds québécoise 1569 02:00:21,280 --> 02:00:29,140 initiative social or FQIS that is managed by the CPO. To this date, we have not had 1570 02:00:29,140 --> 02:00:34,900 had a new call for projects. We have been approved for two other funds. The Ministry of Culture 1571 02:00:34,900 --> 02:00:42,980 approved $12,000 for arts and culture projects and $36,000 from the CISO to deliver the éclaireur 1572 02:00:42,980 --> 02:00:48,140 program to provide activities for seniors and youth. We are still waiting for the funds 1573 02:00:48,140 --> 02:00:53,220 for this program. We had started this program in June but had to temporarily suspend it 1574 02:00:53,220 --> 02:00:58,820 until we received funds from the CISO. Considering that every grant proposal requires 1575 02:00:58,820 --> 02:01:04,060 is a contribution from the promoter, West Pontiac Connects must either fundraise or request 1576 02:01:04,060 --> 02:01:09,600 donations to cover the promoter's share. Since 2022, the skill links program is managed 1577 02:01:09,600 --> 02:01:15,720 through Amploi Québec called the GEM program and we have not qualified for this revenue. 1578 02:01:16,380 --> 02:01:20,940 Over the last two years, we have greatly reduced our operating funds and we must replenish 1579 02:01:20,940 --> 02:01:26,060 if you want to continue to apply for grants. We also applied to the Amploi Québec wage 1580 02:01:26,060 --> 02:01:29,360 subsidy program to provide a full-time office clerk. 1581 02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:35,080 We need to supplement the wages as Amplua Québec only pays a minimum wage. 1582 02:01:35,740 --> 02:01:41,800 Amplua Québec contributes approximately $32,000 and we contribute the other $4,000. 1583 02:01:42,300 --> 02:01:47,000 As you can see, our board works hard to obtain funding and create employment in the area. 1584 02:01:47,640 --> 02:01:52,740 Therefore, we would greatly appreciate if you would continue to support West Pontiac 1585 02:01:52,740 --> 02:01:54,180 Connects in the upcoming budget. 1586 02:01:54,180 --> 02:02:00,980 The programs and services offered at West Pontiac Connects serve all the residents of the Upper Pontiac. 1587 02:02:01,660 --> 02:02:08,060 We wish to thank you again and please contact me if you require more info signed Gene O'Brien, President. 1588 02:02:13,060 --> 02:02:13,860 Go ahead, I have a question. 1589 02:02:16,840 --> 02:02:19,320 You donated a thousand in 2023. 1590 02:02:21,180 --> 02:02:21,900 Give you an idea. 1591 02:02:22,820 --> 02:02:28,700 I need clarification that at the municipal cooperation they talked about the West Pontiac. 1592 02:02:28,700 --> 02:02:35,860 something. That kind of fell to the wayside. There's two. There's Pontiac West, which is the 1593 02:02:35,860 --> 02:02:41,260 website that we all work together. That was part of the Inner Municipal. The West Pontiac Connects 1594 02:02:41,260 --> 02:02:47,920 is that building in Chapo that there are two separate entities. It's beside the bank. 1595 02:02:48,380 --> 02:02:56,000 They offer mostly to elderly computer services. Okay, I get that. But which one died during 1596 02:02:56,000 --> 02:03:01,940 COVID that now we made a motion here to put $2,000 a year towards the inter-vinicipal cooperation 1597 02:03:01,940 --> 02:03:08,380 that was going to look after what went by the wayside during COVID. And it was West Pontiac 1598 02:03:08,380 --> 02:03:10,460 something, but not this. 1599 02:03:12,680 --> 02:03:17,900 Yeah, well, there's the two that I recall is this one. And then the 1600 02:03:17,900 --> 02:03:24,240 West like O-U-E-S-T Pontiac connects, which was the, we're not connects, but just West Pontiac 1601 02:03:24,240 --> 02:03:28,760 was the project for the website. 1602 02:03:29,640 --> 02:03:33,860 Well, Shantel Air works for Pontiac Fest, so you'll see their posts all the time? 1603 02:03:33,920 --> 02:03:38,400 Well, the website was one of the things we did with this... 1604 02:03:38,400 --> 02:03:49,080 No, I think that what Shane was just talking about is there was, I think, a Pontiac West 1605 02:03:49,080 --> 02:03:54,860 something from the MRC that did videos for tourism and things like that and we 1606 02:03:54,860 --> 02:04:02,800 just not to support that anymore. But we did agree to budget $2,000 to the 1607 02:04:02,800 --> 02:04:06,040 municipal thing to kind of do that. 1608 02:04:09,210 --> 02:04:11,570 Do you remember making that motion? 1609 02:04:13,710 --> 02:04:14,550 Because we 1610 02:04:14,550 --> 02:04:18,170 used to give 2,000 bucks to this other thing but now we give it to them 1611 02:04:18,170 --> 02:04:25,810 instead. I thought it was the $2,000 to make the movies. Yeah, and then we stopped doing that. 1612 02:04:25,910 --> 02:04:34,050 We stopped doing it. So this Kanax, Pontiac West Kanax is totally different. Yeah. Okay. 1613 02:04:34,450 --> 02:04:40,270 They work with the seniors. Yeah. They offer like photocopying. You can go in and ask them 1614 02:04:40,270 --> 02:04:45,530 anything. Like they'll help you apply for a passport. I'm on that board, didn't you? Yeah. 1615 02:04:45,530 --> 02:04:47,930 Oh, try and find what it is. I'm thinking about it. 1616 02:04:47,930 --> 02:04:49,970 It's very easy to find the tickets and printing. 1617 02:04:50,250 --> 02:04:50,450 Yeah. 1618 02:04:50,770 --> 02:04:52,090 Yeah, it's handy. 1619 02:04:52,670 --> 02:04:52,690 Yeah. 1620 02:04:52,910 --> 02:04:53,870 The question is quite busy. 1621 02:04:53,910 --> 02:04:55,030 It's like the little staples. 1622 02:04:55,250 --> 02:04:55,590 Basically. 1623 02:04:56,850 --> 02:04:57,390 That's good. 1624 02:04:58,190 --> 02:05:01,150 Well, that's something that we have to consider in our budget. 1625 02:05:01,850 --> 02:05:01,890 Yeah. 1626 02:05:04,920 --> 02:05:07,420 Think about that cookie horse shop over there. 1627 02:05:07,780 --> 02:05:08,060 Yeah. 1628 02:05:08,320 --> 02:05:09,980 The safe food, I would say. 1629 02:05:10,100 --> 02:05:11,840 The price is $150. 1630 02:05:12,320 --> 02:05:14,460 That's a 300 a person because they have 10 people. 1631 02:05:18,900 --> 02:05:21,080 I had to use it on the weekend. 1632 02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:27,420 Hadn't somebody there with us heard, he'd be fine. 1633 02:05:27,720 --> 02:05:28,920 Did they come in and check, you know? 1634 02:05:29,040 --> 02:05:30,120 They certainly don't, yeah. 1635 02:05:30,740 --> 02:05:32,180 And he serves sandwiches, yeah. 1636 02:05:33,840 --> 02:05:35,600 And he put all the meat on the sandwiches. 1637 02:05:37,460 --> 02:05:39,680 Yeah, the mom had it out before he came. 1638 02:05:39,840 --> 02:05:41,560 I worked for each of them, sandwiches. 1639 02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:44,420 So was there a budget line for that? 1640 02:05:45,180 --> 02:05:45,920 I hope so. 1641 02:05:45,960 --> 02:05:46,820 This is just a request. 1642 02:05:47,180 --> 02:05:48,780 You can put it in your budget for next year. 1643 02:05:49,040 --> 02:05:50,200 I can let her know once you do it. 1644 02:05:51,260 --> 02:05:52,600 So it'll come out. 1645 02:05:53,440 --> 02:05:54,480 No motion for that? 1646 02:05:55,300 --> 02:05:56,980 Unless you know for sure you want to contribute. 1647 02:05:57,420 --> 02:05:57,640 All of you. 1648 02:05:58,880 --> 02:06:00,940 The way you see it. 1649 02:06:05,260 --> 02:06:06,760 Motion to join the CHIP FM? 1650 02:06:07,660 --> 02:06:10,860 Yeah, so more correspondence from CHIP FM. 1651 02:06:11,680 --> 02:06:14,340 Dear member, we are pleased to send you your renewal 1652 02:06:14,340 --> 02:06:20,500 for CHIP 101.9 for the upcoming year, the cost to be a member will be $50 instead of the 1653 02:06:20,500 --> 02:06:21,800 usual $120. 1654 02:06:22,500 --> 02:06:26,520 We hope this reduction can contribute to community development in the Pontiac. 1655 02:06:27,100 --> 02:06:30,660 As an organization, you can also contribute to the development of Pontiac Community 1656 02:06:30,660 --> 02:06:34,860 Radio while benefiting from CHIP's services and extensive audience. 1657 02:06:35,500 --> 02:06:40,140 Did you know that in 2025, by becoming a member of CHIP, you will benefit from the 1658 02:06:40,140 --> 02:06:40,980 following advantages. 1659 02:06:41,640 --> 02:06:47,680 announcements of your events on the airwaves in our community bulletin board in and as well as on our website, 1660 02:06:48,580 --> 02:06:54,880 posting a job offer on our airwaves in our public notices on the air and online, 1661 02:06:55,220 --> 02:06:58,200 and the possibility of live or pre-recorded interviews. 1662 02:06:58,920 --> 02:07:03,480 Our goal is to demonstrate to our community the importance of your role within the Pontiac. 1663 02:07:03,960 --> 02:07:09,560 The cost of the annual membership is therefore $50 until January 31st, 2026. 1664 02:07:09,560 --> 02:07:12,660 We hope that your organization will join us as a member. 1665 02:07:13,320 --> 02:07:18,100 It will be our great pleasure to help you inform the community about all your events 1666 02:07:18,100 --> 02:07:20,200 and programs throughout our services. 1667 02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:24,840 If you require further information, please do not hesitate to contact us. 1668 02:07:25,400 --> 02:07:27,300 Je nieve gagnant direct et général. 1669 02:07:28,140 --> 02:07:33,020 And so it's the $50 yearly membership request. 1670 02:07:34,300 --> 02:07:42,590 They have a reporter. They have an actual reporter that goes to me and publishes the results of it online. 1671 02:07:45,250 --> 02:07:49,950 You have a lot of coverage of the Incinerator project. You're really good to support, I think. 1672 02:07:50,470 --> 02:07:57,010 Well, we've been a member before and we support local, so at $50 mentorship, that's pretty cheap. 1673 02:07:57,030 --> 02:07:58,190 You give a reason why you went down? 1674 02:07:59,210 --> 02:08:09,570 it's to incentivize us to join and they just say the cost to a member will be 1675 02:08:09,570 --> 02:08:14,650 $50 instead of the annual 120 we hope that this reduction can contribute to 1676 02:08:14,650 --> 02:08:20,490 community development in the Pontiac so basically more money for us to so we 1677 02:08:20,490 --> 02:08:27,410 haven't been doing this at 1.20. We haven't done it for the last couple years. Okay, let's forget it's 5. 1678 02:08:28,410 --> 02:08:35,170 Yeah, I guess. So about for 2.24 or 2.25? Yeah. That's the budget thing we need to do, right? 1679 02:08:36,430 --> 02:08:41,170 A lot of these places are doing their budgets, so they want to get an idea. That's another budget. 1680 02:08:43,730 --> 02:08:47,250 It's about 20 years. Was that their budget meeting last week? 1681 02:08:48,690 --> 02:08:53,490 So, in the budget for donations to non-profits, there's none left? 1682 02:08:54,210 --> 02:08:55,130 Yeah, there's money left. 1683 02:08:55,270 --> 02:08:55,690 There's money left? 1684 02:08:55,910 --> 02:09:00,150 I think there's $500, and then I didn't get the cost of the wreath yet, which won't be $500, obviously. 1685 02:09:01,150 --> 02:09:05,230 So we could do that, too, on last year's budget of donations. 1686 02:09:05,930 --> 02:09:07,830 If you pay for it this year, just consider your budget this year. 1687 02:09:08,070 --> 02:09:08,930 Right. Why don't we do that? 1688 02:09:09,970 --> 02:09:10,370 Do it. 1689 02:09:10,930 --> 02:09:11,510 Can we do it? 1690 02:09:12,110 --> 02:09:13,350 Sure. The money's there. 1691 02:09:13,790 --> 02:09:14,390 Make a motion? 1692 02:09:14,690 --> 02:09:15,630 Yeah, I'll make a motion. 1693 02:09:15,630 --> 02:09:17,950 Yeah, but last year it was 120 and that was... 1694 02:09:17,950 --> 02:09:18,930 We didn't pay anything last year. 1695 02:09:19,570 --> 02:09:21,390 No, so we're not paying for last year then. 1696 02:09:21,890 --> 02:09:24,750 No, we'll just pay in this year for next year. 1697 02:09:24,950 --> 02:09:25,810 Well, that's 50 bucks. 1698 02:09:26,110 --> 02:09:28,610 If we didn't want to pay for last year, it would be 120 bucks. 1699 02:09:28,610 --> 02:09:29,290 No, I'm not saying that. 1700 02:09:30,690 --> 02:09:31,910 Paying for next year is this year. 1701 02:09:33,570 --> 02:09:35,970 We're paying for next year with this year's budget. 1702 02:09:37,090 --> 02:09:39,550 That was the donation life. 1703 02:09:41,190 --> 02:09:42,270 So Rick made the motion. 1704 02:09:43,410 --> 02:09:43,970 All in favor? 1705 02:09:57,720 --> 02:10:04,280 Yeah, it's just the same request. We've done this before for the Shimburu Archive, and 1706 02:10:04,280 --> 02:10:12,640 they received money from, I believe it was Forte for cultural development and projects. 1707 02:10:13,200 --> 02:10:17,420 So the Shimburu Archive is requesting a support letter from the municipality for a cultural 1708 02:10:17,420 --> 02:10:23,240 they will be applying for this month. So it's just a letter saying that we support them in that endeavor. 1709 02:10:24,420 --> 02:10:26,640 Motion to have the DG write a letter of support. 1710 02:10:28,180 --> 02:10:33,080 I'm sure. I want to tell you we've got $500 from the letter of the year. 1711 02:10:33,340 --> 02:10:37,240 Do you want that in writing? 1712 02:10:42,340 --> 02:10:47,080 There's a former member of the government, Sean Conway, and his sister. 1713 02:10:47,080 --> 02:10:49,940 He came up and he's a really friendly girl most of the afternoon, you know. 1714 02:10:50,140 --> 02:10:50,980 He's pretty cool, yeah. 1715 02:10:51,100 --> 02:10:52,040 Yeah, he's very smart. 1716 02:10:53,220 --> 02:10:54,240 He's nice to chat with. 1717 02:10:54,320 --> 02:10:55,340 He was blown away by the building. 1718 02:10:55,820 --> 02:10:56,880 Oh, he didn't want to leave. 1719 02:10:57,740 --> 02:10:58,980 Oh, we made a lunch and everything. 1720 02:11:01,200 --> 02:11:02,880 Karen made the motion. All in favor? 1721 02:11:03,780 --> 02:11:03,880 Yeah. 1722 02:11:04,080 --> 02:11:04,320 Fast. 1723 02:11:06,920 --> 02:11:08,800 And then the last bit of correspondence. 1724 02:11:09,140 --> 02:11:09,340 Letter. 1725 02:11:09,580 --> 02:11:11,480 On the other hand, this is the letter from the RA. 1726 02:11:12,360 --> 02:11:14,040 Tuesday, November 5th, 2024. 1727 02:11:14,420 --> 02:11:16,260 The Sheenborough Recreation Association. 1728 02:11:16,260 --> 02:11:22,660 Jean Gleason, President, R.E. the Memorial Wall, Mayor Ranje and Councilors. 1729 02:11:23,180 --> 02:11:28,040 The Sheenborough Recreation Committee would like to thank you for your generous donation 1730 02:11:28,040 --> 02:11:32,420 that covered the cost of repairing the crumbling mortar on the Memorial Wall in the park. 1731 02:11:33,020 --> 02:11:37,960 Mr. Sullivan honored the quote he gave us last year and completed the repairs in mid-October. 1732 02:11:38,680 --> 02:11:43,540 Your constant and continued support of the Sheenborough Recreation Association's initiatives 1733 02:11:43,540 --> 02:11:47,920 is greatly appreciated. Sincerely signed Gene Gleason. 1734 02:11:50,380 --> 02:11:51,220 Pardon me? 1735 02:11:51,340 --> 02:11:51,760 Which Sullivan? 1736 02:11:52,200 --> 02:11:52,480 Sean. 1737 02:11:53,160 --> 02:11:53,940 Sean, yeah. 1738 02:11:54,320 --> 02:11:54,780 Sean Sullivan. 1739 02:11:55,220 --> 02:11:58,640 Yeah, I doesn't say his first name, but it's Sean Sullivan. 1740 02:11:58,780 --> 02:11:59,480 I got a song there. 1741 02:12:00,200 --> 02:12:01,360 Not from Chapel. 1742 02:12:03,620 --> 02:12:05,460 That has the club? 1743 02:12:05,600 --> 02:12:07,440 It's a Brown Crook. 1744 02:12:07,660 --> 02:12:09,000 No, it's the other Sean Sullivan. 1745 02:12:09,280 --> 02:12:09,620 Oh, yeah. 1746 02:12:09,680 --> 02:12:10,400 Was the other song? 1747 02:12:11,320 --> 02:12:13,900 It's not related to Roe Verde and their stomach. 1748 02:12:14,920 --> 02:12:15,860 Oh yeah, okay. 1749 02:12:16,180 --> 02:12:19,700 It is restoration, yeah. 1750 02:12:19,860 --> 02:12:21,940 Yeah, it was a nurse and then I would get a nurse. 1751 02:12:23,140 --> 02:12:23,620 Cool. 1752 02:12:24,840 --> 02:12:26,180 So we're going to go in camera. 1753 02:12:26,500 --> 02:12:27,920 We'd have to get the public to leave. 1754 02:12:28,140 --> 02:12:30,260 But before you do, is there any questions or comments? 1755 02:12:33,490 --> 02:12:37,330 Thank you for hearing all my questions and concerns this evening. 1756 02:12:37,330 --> 02:12:46,750 I'd like to share my condolences for the passing of our municipal worker Richard, who's a really nice person. 1757 02:12:47,250 --> 02:12:52,330 Everybody here work close with him. I see him on the road every day. Sorry to see him go. 1758 02:12:53,730 --> 02:12:58,930 So I'm really sorry everybody. I just work closer with him than I did. 1759 02:13:00,190 --> 02:13:00,970 Thank you, Greg. 1760 02:13:02,310 --> 02:13:04,530 Yeah, I'll second that one. That's for sure. 1761 02:13:06,570 --> 02:13:08,810 He did a pretty good job changing it, I'll say that. 1762 02:13:08,970 --> 02:13:10,370 It was a little long. 1763 02:13:12,690 --> 02:13:14,350 That was a pretty long agenda. 1764 02:13:17,230 --> 02:13:21,110 At the very end, it would have been nice if we wanted to ask them. 1765 02:13:21,310 --> 02:13:23,850 That would be nice. Something just to talk about. 1766 02:13:24,730 --> 02:13:24,910 Yeah. 1767 02:13:34,670 --> 02:13:37,810 He said he was like me one time, so be careful what you say. 1768 02:13:42,830 --> 02:13:46,130 So we're going in the camera at 8.45, I'm going to stop the recording.