1 00:00:00,370 --> 00:00:30,150 Okay, it is 6 o'clock and we'll call our council meeting to order and welcome everyone this evening. Our first item of business is the approval of the agenda of June 10th, 2026. And we have had one addition requested from Councillor Richardson and we'll put it under 8v, trails, the Roseway River Trail and Jordan Trail. Are there any other items to be included on the agenda? 2 00:00:32,290 --> 00:00:33,670 Councillor Thoroughb and Irvine? 3 00:00:34,990 --> 00:00:39,830 I'm just on acceptance of the minutes I was just going to note a correction. 4 00:00:40,170 --> 00:00:40,310 Okay. 5 00:00:40,570 --> 00:00:43,470 So we'll do our agenda first and then we'll move on to that item. 6 00:00:43,530 --> 00:00:43,870 Thank you. 7 00:00:44,150 --> 00:00:44,590 Sure. 8 00:00:45,410 --> 00:00:48,590 Any other items to include on the agenda? 9 00:00:49,610 --> 00:00:54,150 If not, if we can have a motion to approve the agenda as amended please. 10 00:00:54,530 --> 00:00:54,950 I'll move it. 11 00:00:55,530 --> 00:00:56,870 Thank you. 12 00:00:56,870 --> 00:00:57,390 Thank you. 13 00:00:57,670 --> 00:00:58,910 It's been moved and seconded. 14 00:00:58,910 --> 00:01:02,110 All those in favor of the motion signify by saying aye. 15 00:01:02,590 --> 00:01:02,950 Aye. 16 00:01:03,530 --> 00:01:06,210 Those opposed no motion is carried. 17 00:01:06,830 --> 00:01:11,270 Okay, moving on to acceptance of the minutes of May 27, 2026. 18 00:01:11,810 --> 00:01:14,310 Are there any changes required to those minutes? 19 00:01:14,470 --> 00:01:16,650 And I believe Councillor Thorbener-Royne, you had an item? 20 00:01:17,170 --> 00:01:17,330 Thank you. 21 00:01:17,950 --> 00:01:23,650 Just could we note that I was absent for that council meeting. 22 00:01:23,650 --> 00:01:27,950 I hadn't held a health issue that came up and couldn't attend. 23 00:01:27,950 --> 00:01:28,610 and thank you. 24 00:01:29,070 --> 00:01:31,110 Thank you, anything further? 25 00:01:32,210 --> 00:01:35,390 If not, we can accept the minutes as amended. 26 00:01:36,370 --> 00:01:38,990 Moving on to business arising from the minutes, 27 00:01:39,330 --> 00:01:41,370 anything to come before council this evening? 28 00:01:43,550 --> 00:01:45,990 Hearing none, we'll move on to presentations. 29 00:01:46,650 --> 00:01:47,970 We have one this evening. 30 00:01:48,370 --> 00:01:51,210 Mike Conn, Director of Planning and Development 31 00:01:51,210 --> 00:01:54,010 for the town of Shelton will be presenting this evening 32 00:01:54,010 --> 00:01:57,070 regarding the bulk water fill station proposal. 33 00:01:57,710 --> 00:01:58,310 Welcome. 34 00:01:58,850 --> 00:02:10,850 and we will do a round of introductions because I'm not sure, Mr. Cahn, if you know everyone around the council table, so I'm Penny Smith. I'm the warden for the municipality of Shelburne and Councillor for District 2. 35 00:02:11,430 --> 00:02:17,570 And that covers the communities from Roseway through to Reeds Hill. And I'll move to my far left, please. 36 00:02:17,570 --> 00:02:26,840 Dale Richardson for district seven, which takes from alley lines through the communities 37 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:35,380 right through into law for corner, wrong call on district six from law for corner, basically 38 00:02:35,380 --> 00:02:43,120 all west head all the way into East Jordan, including East Jordan. 39 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:45,980 Hi, Mike. 40 00:02:45,980 --> 00:02:56,420 It's my name is Sherry Thorbener, I'm the district three councilor for Sandy Point, and that's town line to approximately I think the civic is 2272. 41 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:57,140 I 42 00:02:59,990 --> 00:03:06,510 do Wagner that we award in district five. I do lower Sandy Point right to East Jordan also. 43 00:03:06,510 --> 00:03:14,270 Good evening. I will settle in District 1, Beaver Dam to red it room. 44 00:03:16,630 --> 00:03:22,350 Angie Shean for District 4, which is West Town Ohio along the highway to 45 00:03:22,350 --> 00:03:24,110 Woodland Drive and through that area. 46 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,920 Nicole Blades executive assistant. Thank you 47 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:36,060 very much and we do have staff that have joined us virtually this evening as 48 00:03:36,060 --> 00:03:41,080 well. So welcome and the floor is yours. Thank you. Good evening council. I'm 49 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:46,600 this evening to talk about a potential bulk fill station for the Shelburne area. On the next 50 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:51,880 slide, we can see there is an example of the bulk fill station in Yarmut. Some of the things 51 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:57,040 to note in that picture are the gravel along the edge of the paved surfaces to allow for drainage, 52 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,800 the concrete pad that the unit is sitting on, the posts around it to protect it from vehicles 53 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:07,040 backing into it, as well as the drainage as well around the concrete pad itself, and you'll notice 54 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:12,420 there's a hose one and a hose two. So there is the ability to bring in other sizes as well. 55 00:04:12,940 --> 00:04:16,460 So the overhead arm there is a two-inch line that would be used to fill water cubes and water 56 00:04:16,460 --> 00:04:21,620 trucks. That other hose one location could be used for sort of a jump-fill type arrangement. 57 00:04:22,060 --> 00:04:25,780 The current ones that the town is looking at won't include a jump fill but could easily be retrofitted 58 00:04:25,780 --> 00:04:27,900 like the picture shows there to include a jump fill. 59 00:04:30,050 --> 00:04:32,450 On the next slide we can see the sort of overall 60 00:04:32,450 --> 00:04:36,910 sketch and just sort of how much space it takes up. It takes up approximately 55 meters by 30 meters 61 00:04:36,910 --> 00:04:41,150 or 180 feet by 100 feet. So that's kind of the footprint we would be looking at. 62 00:04:41,570 --> 00:04:45,190 One of the key pieces from looking at other areas is good traffic flow because you're going to have 63 00:04:45,190 --> 00:04:49,150 a number of people most likely with trailers. You want to make sure the traffic can flow around the 64 00:04:49,150 --> 00:04:55,130 station quite easily, otherwise you're going to wind up with that traffic. So we're looking at different 65 00:04:55,130 --> 00:04:59,650 locations in town, but on the next slide is sort of our first blush that where we would think it 66 00:04:59,650 --> 00:05:04,730 would go near the community center, but not adjacent to the community center. Going back to those sort 67 00:05:04,730 --> 00:05:09,270 of traffic concerns, the concern is that it will clog the community center if there were 68 00:05:09,270 --> 00:05:12,530 people there or if the fire trucks needed to get out, we wouldn't of course want people 69 00:05:12,530 --> 00:05:17,230 with water trailers blocking the way. So that's one of the potential locations. We are going 70 00:05:17,230 --> 00:05:20,970 to be looking at public engagement on other locations, another location that was considered 71 00:05:20,970 --> 00:05:24,990 was by the Shelmer and Wastewater treatment plant, their space there, and their water main there. 72 00:05:26,090 --> 00:05:31,610 Next up we have the cost of the bulk fill station. So the actual sort of box itself is 87,000 73 00:05:31,610 --> 00:05:34,490 and that's another 90,000 to prepare the site around it. 74 00:05:34,850 --> 00:05:36,550 There's a contingency on the civil work, 75 00:05:36,730 --> 00:05:39,150 so the paving, the concrete and whatnot. 76 00:05:39,570 --> 00:05:42,210 And there's also a note on the first two years of operations 77 00:05:42,210 --> 00:05:45,210 because the bulk fill station has some additional costs related 78 00:05:45,210 --> 00:05:45,870 to it directly. 79 00:05:46,410 --> 00:05:48,050 The water utility can't charge back for it, 80 00:05:48,070 --> 00:05:49,390 so that would be a loss to the water utility 81 00:05:49,390 --> 00:05:50,990 if we didn't cover off that for $800. 82 00:05:51,970 --> 00:05:55,310 That brings us to Gishai of $200,000 for the bulk fill station. 83 00:05:55,810 --> 00:05:58,650 On the next slide, it talks about how we're considering upfunding it. 84 00:05:58,650 --> 00:06:03,350 We've already taken a look at the Green Municipal Fund for rapid adaptation, and unfortunately 85 00:06:03,350 --> 00:06:04,350 we do not qualify. 86 00:06:04,830 --> 00:06:08,910 We don't qualify as the federal government requires us to just water it away, but provincial 87 00:06:08,910 --> 00:06:13,050 government requires us to charge for the water, so we are not able to access that grant. 88 00:06:13,590 --> 00:06:18,270 We are looking at the Sustainable Community Challenge Fund, the FCCF, which would fund 89 00:06:18,270 --> 00:06:24,770 scenario one, 159,800, and would lead both municipalities to fund 20,000 themselves. 90 00:06:24,770 --> 00:06:31,190 The second scenario has been allocated by the town of Shelbert, 62,500, that would enable 91 00:06:31,190 --> 00:06:36,670 a potential for a lower grant, like a GMF grant, or potentially for a surcharge. 92 00:06:37,110 --> 00:06:42,610 So potentially, there could be, say, a dollar or two a cube added in surcharge, and that 93 00:06:42,610 --> 00:06:47,390 would fund the actual station itself, however that approach requires UARB approval. 94 00:06:47,830 --> 00:06:51,390 So it would not be very timely to go down that route to do the surcharge route. 95 00:06:51,390 --> 00:06:57,130 There's also the risk that it would discourage people from using it if the chart was too high and 96 00:06:59,470 --> 00:07:02,110 that I believe is it for the presentation. I'm happy to take questions. 97 00:07:03,630 --> 00:07:05,490 Okay. Thank you very much for that. 98 00:07:07,310 --> 00:07:11,610 I've got a couple of mics lit up here, so we'll start with Councillor Richardson. 99 00:07:13,430 --> 00:07:16,190 So this is a bulk water station. 100 00:07:18,530 --> 00:07:25,130 I guess my main question would be, is there any opportunity for citizens or people with 101 00:07:25,130 --> 00:07:27,870 one gallon, two gallon, five gallon jugs to fill? 102 00:07:28,790 --> 00:07:30,730 So as this proposed right now, that wouldn't be possible. 103 00:07:30,890 --> 00:07:34,690 Part of the reason behind that is the UARB requires us to charge for the water and the minimum 104 00:07:34,690 --> 00:07:35,570 charge is $50. 105 00:07:36,110 --> 00:07:39,390 So even if someone came forward with a four liter jug, we would have to charge them $50. 106 00:07:40,030 --> 00:07:42,230 We're looking into getting our water rate study. 107 00:07:42,370 --> 00:07:45,230 The town has to go forward for a water rate study within the next two years anyways. 108 00:07:45,230 --> 00:07:54,250 and so we would get that updated. Town of Yarmouth, for their part, did get that updated so they could now not have to charge that. Their minimum charge is now $5.00, not $50.00. 109 00:07:54,250 --> 00:07:56,950 Part of their rationale is to why that $50 minimum charge is there. 110 00:07:57,390 --> 00:08:03,270 Is as originally envisioned, a bulk fill would require a staff person to actually show up and physically needer the water. 111 00:08:03,750 --> 00:08:09,470 So that's why that is there. So someone had asked for four leaders to be needed by a person. They would have crossed $50.00. 112 00:08:09,470 --> 00:08:12,070 So unfortunately, that's the way it is, but we are looking at addressing that. 113 00:08:13,990 --> 00:08:21,490 It's unfortunate because I think we are supposing that we've heard a lot of interest 114 00:08:21,490 --> 00:08:27,730 from the public at large for those individual water deliveries or pickups. 115 00:08:27,910 --> 00:08:29,430 So thank you. 116 00:08:30,190 --> 00:08:30,950 Thank you. 117 00:08:31,150 --> 00:08:31,810 Councillor Coul. 118 00:08:32,670 --> 00:08:33,290 Oh, I do not. 119 00:08:34,170 --> 00:08:34,690 That's okay. 120 00:08:35,690 --> 00:08:36,830 Councillor Thorben-Neil-Hau. 121 00:08:37,050 --> 00:08:42,010 I also think you make, I guess, you know, we're really looking at ultimately. 122 00:08:42,010 --> 00:08:47,590 being able to deliver water in the reality of our drought scenarios going forward. 123 00:08:48,330 --> 00:08:53,630 And we recently had a presentation on desalination, and so there's a cost to both of those. 124 00:08:54,490 --> 00:08:58,310 Has the tail considered the desalination option at all? 125 00:08:59,130 --> 00:09:02,050 No, the tail has access to a plentiful water supply at Lake Rockland. 126 00:09:02,670 --> 00:09:08,510 Okay. Okay. Yeah. So I don't have any other questions at this point. 127 00:09:09,370 --> 00:09:10,550 Thank you. CAO. 128 00:09:12,250 --> 00:09:16,350 Thank you, Warden. And thank you, Mike, for your presentation. Much appreciated. 129 00:09:17,810 --> 00:09:27,930 Mike, do you envision any circumstances whereby you would restrict customers from getting water from that bulk fuel station? 130 00:09:29,430 --> 00:09:37,010 It's a good question. Most likely not. The UARB rules on how we can restrict access to water and things like that. 131 00:09:37,010 --> 00:09:41,050 The only scenario I would see would be a corporate customer who hadn't paid 132 00:09:42,370 --> 00:09:44,550 Okay, thank you very much 133 00:09:47,890 --> 00:09:52,230 I've got a couple that I'm gonna go to my car right now and counselor shan 134 00:09:52,230 --> 00:09:55,490 I think you have a question or a comment. I have three questions. Thank you 135 00:09:56,190 --> 00:10:01,550 First one being who would serve as a system and complete water testing on the regular basis 136 00:10:01,550 --> 00:10:03,850 It would be responsible for that 137 00:10:03,850 --> 00:10:07,310 The town of Shelburne's water utility would be, so we have a water operator who would be responsible 138 00:10:07,310 --> 00:10:11,450 for the bulk fill station. It does also effectively clean itself, so after each use it releases 139 00:10:11,450 --> 00:10:14,850 a little bit through and a little bit more water so that each time every person comes up 140 00:10:14,850 --> 00:10:20,210 the receptacle is still clean. So would there be any cost that would be asked for the municipality 141 00:10:20,210 --> 00:10:26,610 to participate in paying for any of that? No. The UARB through their rate of study would come out 142 00:10:26,610 --> 00:10:31,610 with a rate is the amount, not amount covers absolutely everything. And how long would it take to build 143 00:10:31,610 --> 00:10:36,630 something like this. A couple of months. So something like if if everybody were into 144 00:10:36,630 --> 00:10:40,610 agreements to make it, it would be not something we'd see this summer type thing, it would be. 145 00:10:41,150 --> 00:10:46,510 The grant we're looking at, the SCCF, the preliminary application closes at the end of this month, 146 00:10:46,650 --> 00:10:51,530 final application closes at the end of July, but decisions aren't until November. So November, 147 00:10:51,750 --> 00:10:55,430 we would hope to get a shovel on the ground if we were successful before the snow flies and go from that. 148 00:10:55,430 --> 00:11:02,790 So once the original cost that you had spoke of, then there is no additional cost after that. 149 00:11:03,130 --> 00:11:09,670 So if something were to break in the system or something went wrong, how is the fees to cover 150 00:11:09,670 --> 00:11:13,770 that debuted offer? Who is responsibility of that? It's a water utility. The water utility will 151 00:11:13,770 --> 00:11:19,770 ultimately only asset. So the currently the town's water rate is $8.32 per cubic meter and that covers 152 00:11:19,770 --> 00:11:23,670 everything from the cost of chemicals to the cost of maintenance of equipment. When we go to 153 00:11:23,670 --> 00:11:24,810 from Ford for our next rate study, 154 00:11:24,950 --> 00:11:26,130 that rate will most likely go up 155 00:11:26,130 --> 00:11:27,490 and we'll cover the eventualities 156 00:11:27,490 --> 00:11:28,410 so that you're speaking of. 157 00:11:28,750 --> 00:11:30,450 There's a generic water depreciation, 158 00:11:30,650 --> 00:11:31,250 which the town collects, 159 00:11:31,250 --> 00:11:33,370 which is for all other sort of eventualities, 160 00:11:33,370 --> 00:11:34,630 sort of like what you're alluding to. 161 00:11:35,070 --> 00:11:36,690 So that would be cover off that cost, 162 00:11:36,710 --> 00:11:38,090 it would not be an additional cost. 163 00:11:38,350 --> 00:11:39,950 The whole idea behind the water utility 164 00:11:39,950 --> 00:11:41,930 is it is self-financing, once it is set up. 165 00:11:42,290 --> 00:11:45,110 So we're just asking for the initial cost 166 00:11:45,110 --> 00:11:47,050 to set it up from the municipality, 167 00:11:47,530 --> 00:11:49,650 so that would be the end on our portion 168 00:11:49,650 --> 00:11:50,490 of what would be required. 169 00:11:50,770 --> 00:11:51,990 So the capital costs. 170 00:11:52,470 --> 00:11:52,690 Thank you. 171 00:11:52,690 --> 00:11:52,730 Okay. 172 00:11:53,370 --> 00:11:54,150 Thank you. 173 00:11:54,430 --> 00:11:54,810 Definitely. 174 00:11:55,290 --> 00:11:59,510 And that's kind of the question I had to show that the first two years of operations you've 175 00:11:59,510 --> 00:12:00,190 got $4,800. 176 00:12:01,010 --> 00:12:06,570 After those two years, if something goes wrong, you're expecting that the monies that come 177 00:12:06,570 --> 00:12:14,430 in from the collection of the sale of water basically cover any kind of operation maintenance 178 00:12:14,430 --> 00:12:14,950 that's needed. 179 00:12:15,410 --> 00:12:15,650 Exactly. 180 00:12:16,550 --> 00:12:19,910 The $8.32 part of that will go to actually treating the water that gets pumped out of the 181 00:12:19,910 --> 00:12:22,010 but part of it will be for the maintenance of the station itself. 182 00:12:24,510 --> 00:12:30,190 Okay, I'll come back to myself now and Councillor Chan actually asked the question 183 00:12:30,890 --> 00:12:35,630 that I had regarding moving forward, knowing that we were going, 184 00:12:35,750 --> 00:12:40,210 if we were going to participate in the operations or the capital cost, 185 00:12:40,610 --> 00:12:45,230 what was the expectation for operations moving forward? 186 00:12:45,230 --> 00:12:48,610 So happy to hear your response on that. 187 00:12:49,790 --> 00:12:55,250 And so it's just less than an acre of property than that's required for this system. 188 00:12:55,630 --> 00:12:56,250 Yeah, let's correct. 189 00:12:56,650 --> 00:12:56,930 Okay. 190 00:12:58,330 --> 00:12:59,990 And let's see here. 191 00:13:00,930 --> 00:13:02,850 I think everything else has been taken care of. 192 00:13:03,150 --> 00:13:05,050 I do see the CAO has his hand up. 193 00:13:05,650 --> 00:13:08,530 And I believe that's for another additional question or comment. 194 00:13:09,350 --> 00:13:10,550 Yes, thank you very much, Warden. 195 00:13:11,930 --> 00:13:15,190 Mike, the bulk water station in Yarmouth, 196 00:13:15,330 --> 00:13:18,870 do they charge a minimum $50 for a fill-up? 197 00:13:20,930 --> 00:13:23,010 The Yarmouth went forward with their rate study 198 00:13:23,010 --> 00:13:24,350 and their minimum fee is now $5. 199 00:13:25,210 --> 00:13:26,010 It's $5. 200 00:13:26,610 --> 00:13:29,430 So is there any way with the MSRAB 201 00:13:29,430 --> 00:13:33,310 to have that fee reduced like from $50 to something less? 202 00:13:33,470 --> 00:13:35,390 Because that's like a heavy upfront fee. 203 00:13:36,830 --> 00:13:38,930 It absolutely is, the town needs to come forward 204 00:13:38,930 --> 00:13:42,630 with that sort of holistic plan of here's our water field overall. We're almost at that point. 205 00:13:42,770 --> 00:13:48,370 It's within the next two years by April 1st of 2029, the town must have updated its water study 206 00:13:48,370 --> 00:13:51,990 as because it's been 10 years since the last time we did it, that would be when we were bringing 207 00:13:51,990 --> 00:13:56,290 that forward. The two-year operations, that's the bridge us to that point where we could get in front 208 00:13:56,290 --> 00:14:02,350 of the UARB. So there is a potential to do because town of Yarmouth has done an in-term request so we 209 00:14:02,350 --> 00:14:07,150 could look into that, but there's no guarantee. And it's still a timely piece. I would worry that the 210 00:14:07,150 --> 00:14:12,630 would ask us to just roll it into our major study, our main study. Thank you Mike. 211 00:14:14,660 --> 00:14:15,600 Okay thank you 212 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:20,860 Councillor Kuhl and then Councillor Schernd. I have a question but I don't know how to word it and 213 00:14:21,340 --> 00:14:30,600 I noticed there's the initial 20 or 62 thousand. Now eventually this will probably make money. 214 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:37,460 Uh no it helps but part of the reason behind the UARB is to make sure that the town doesn't make 215 00:14:37,460 --> 00:14:41,200 money off of it. It's to make sure that it covers costs and nothing more. One of the interesting 216 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,260 ones coming up from research and was looking at Town of Yarmouth as I understand it got a little 217 00:14:45,260 --> 00:14:49,720 bit of trouble because they were giving water to themselves. Only the water utility gets free water, 218 00:14:49,860 --> 00:14:56,580 nobody else does. Just a good idea. When the point of view is it, we invest into it when we get some 219 00:14:56,580 --> 00:14:58,220 another bit of all sorts of stuff, okay? 220 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:29,160 Yes, exactly. Councilor Shand. I just so that I understand, frankly, meaning like one of those big, huge things that you feel for horses and like those sides of the public item is what we mean by bulk. Yes. So not usable for the average resident, whose well is just running dry, they could be someone who needs to have a virus. A large truck or there might be a hauling services as well. Companies may choose to fill up at the bulk, fill station and then haul it to people's wells as well. Yeah, I think. 221 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:34,780 Um, like one of your statements in your staff report was exactly that about the potential 222 00:15:34,780 --> 00:15:41,000 for, I guess like a small business or something like that for someone locally to be able to, 223 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:47,340 um, to provide that service. Absolutely. Okay. Any other questions or comments, 224 00:15:47,700 --> 00:15:52,360 Councillor Thoroughburn or via? It's obvious, I think, but, uh, each fill-up, each time that you 225 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,700 present is a $50 charge. 226 00:15:55,540 --> 00:15:56,200 We'll read it now, yes. 227 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:57,200 I'll look at the regulations. 228 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:57,600 Great. 229 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:58,000 Thanks. 230 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:00,500 Okay. 231 00:16:00,860 --> 00:16:02,300 Any other questions or comments? 232 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:08,500 A very interesting, I think, project for the municipality to consider. 233 00:16:08,900 --> 00:16:13,720 So, thank you very much for coming this evening and presenting and answering all the questions 234 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:14,840 that we had for you. 235 00:16:15,260 --> 00:16:16,200 All right. 236 00:16:16,540 --> 00:16:17,540 We'll be back in touch. 237 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:19,560 Enjoy the rest of your evening. 238 00:16:21,020 --> 00:16:21,580 Okay, 239 00:16:24,020 --> 00:16:27,440 we're going to move on now to six protective services, 240 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,260 Remo bylaw, second reading. 241 00:16:29,940 --> 00:16:32,340 And I see Miss Bell has joined us. Welcome. 242 00:16:33,860 --> 00:16:35,420 Thank you very much, Warden. 243 00:16:38,270 --> 00:16:39,130 Can everyone hear me? 244 00:16:39,910 --> 00:16:40,530 Yes, we can. 245 00:16:40,910 --> 00:16:42,450 Okay, perfect. Thank you very much. 246 00:16:43,410 --> 00:16:48,650 So as my staff report was submitted there, 247 00:16:48,650 --> 00:16:55,250 This is the second reading of the by-law in the background. Of course, the revision suggested by the province 248 00:16:56,030 --> 00:17:03,750 recommendations for changes. This is the second and final reading so we can pass by-law E-300. 249 00:17:04,330 --> 00:17:10,770 Just a note, there were no changes to the budget and there were no submissions from the public 250 00:17:10,770 --> 00:17:12,490 regarding this by-law. 251 00:17:14,500 --> 00:17:18,680 Okay, thank you for that. There is a prepared motion if someone would like to 252 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,260 to make that please, Councilor Richardson. 253 00:17:21,620 --> 00:17:28,300 Be it resolved, and Council of the Newspanality of the District of Svelven recommended, 254 00:17:28,540 --> 00:17:35,520 as recommended by Reno, give second and final reading to the revised by law, E300. 255 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:37,100 Thank you. 256 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:38,880 There's seconder, please. 257 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:40,540 I'll second it. 258 00:17:41,460 --> 00:17:43,460 Okay, it's been moved and seconded. 259 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:44,900 Any discussion on the motion? 260 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,340 I think it's pretty straightforward. 261 00:17:49,100 --> 00:17:52,240 All those in favor of the motion, signify by saying aye. 262 00:17:54,120 --> 00:17:54,700 Those opposed? 263 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:55,140 No. 264 00:17:55,500 --> 00:17:56,540 Motion is carried. 265 00:17:56,860 --> 00:17:57,980 Thank you very much for that. 266 00:17:58,820 --> 00:18:01,240 We'll move on now to operations. 267 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,840 We have the Monthly Building Report for May, 2026. 268 00:18:06,220 --> 00:18:12,060 Again, always nice to see a new dwelling on the report and we're at just over $3 million 269 00:18:12,060 --> 00:18:18,100 dollars in total construction to date. Any questions or comments on the monthly building report? 270 00:18:20,450 --> 00:18:26,770 Hearing none, we will move on to administration 8A proposed Sandy Point Wilderness area 271 00:18:26,770 --> 00:18:28,770 discussion and that's our CAO. 272 00:18:31,300 --> 00:18:37,160 Thank you very much, Warden. The province of recently put out 273 00:18:38,340 --> 00:18:46,160 a directive or not a directive, a list of 13 proposed wilderness areas around the province. 274 00:18:46,740 --> 00:18:52,640 One of those proposed wilderness areas is the Sandy Point wilderness area, which I think 275 00:18:52,640 --> 00:19:00,900 is something like 800 and some odd acres and they've given, I think, until July 25th for 276 00:19:00,900 --> 00:19:11,320 feedback from interested parties. One of the things I wanted to get from council was some feedback 277 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,560 from council as to whether or not we want to provide feedback and if we want to provide 278 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:26,940 feedback, what would the nature of that feedback be? One of the issues I see with the proposal 279 00:19:26,940 --> 00:19:34,380 isn't the actual wilderness area itself. I don't see any complications in that proposed wilderness 280 00:19:34,380 --> 00:19:40,320 area. But what I, what I did take exception to was that as a municipal government, we weren't 281 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:45,740 consulted by Department of Natural Resources ahead of time sort of saying, listen, we're thinking 282 00:19:45,740 --> 00:19:50,880 about doing this, you know, how does it impact your, you know, your municipal land strategy, 283 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:59,180 that type of thing. And so the consultation part of it is something that I would like 284 00:19:59,180 --> 00:20:04,080 counsel maybe to talk about and whether or not that's something we want to provide feedback on. 285 00:20:06,180 --> 00:20:11,920 Thank you for that. I did notice it as a Facebook post as well and I'm not sure if I 286 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:19,140 felt that there was a lot of information there to kind of guide us in this. So we do have 287 00:20:19,140 --> 00:20:21,880 Councillor Thorben Irvine, and then Councillor Sharon, please. 288 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,040 Thank you. 289 00:20:23,500 --> 00:20:30,520 I did note that the morning of the 28th, simply because I was posting something to my 290 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:35,400 Councillor Facebook page, and then you could see other political, there's other things 291 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,220 on that Facebook platform, I suppose. 292 00:20:39,100 --> 00:20:47,140 So it was in the early morning of the 28th, but I noted it, and it's up until July the 28th 293 00:20:47,140 --> 00:20:56,560 is 880 hectares and I did ask the Department of Environment because you know people were having 294 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:06,100 questions. I basically I even had an individual direct me to be responding as a counselor and so 295 00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:12,440 what I did say there there may be people that have noted that respectfully that is not my assignment 296 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:18,480 as a councillor, that we encourage all citizens to participate in 297 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:23,160 under voice, and so that's where I left that, but because I did 298 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,780 inquire with the Department of Nethical Resources, they told me that it was 299 00:21:27,780 --> 00:21:31,760 the Department of the Environment, so I think going forward as a municipal 300 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,500 government, if there's any interaction, they'll likely be through the Department of 301 00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:39,720 the Environment that you'll want to go, and so there are citizens in the 302 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:46,340 municipality in our district, I suppose, in Dayton, our Councilor Wagner's district as well. 303 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:53,420 You know, they'll be engaged and they'll do their assessments and you know, give voice to it. 304 00:21:54,820 --> 00:22:01,060 I don't have much else to offer. Thank you for that. Yeah, when I saw the first thing I did was send 305 00:22:01,060 --> 00:22:07,700 it through to the CAO and I didn't reach out to natural resources or the Department of Environment, 306 00:22:07,700 --> 00:22:12,320 but kind of like, you know, what's our role here and like, what should we be doing with this? 307 00:22:12,940 --> 00:22:17,580 So, so glad that you were able to offer that to the residents as well. 308 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,660 Councillor Schand and then Councillor Richardson. 309 00:22:20,940 --> 00:22:27,520 My question is a little more exactly what does it mean? So is this designated land that cannot be 310 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:34,120 used for anything because it's being held as a wilderness wildlife area so it's owned currently by 311 00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:39,260 the government and is deemed this and can't be thought sold used for anything else at that. 312 00:22:41,940 --> 00:22:47,080 So certainly, certainly feel free to check, but I did ask that as well. What level of protection 313 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:53,580 was the government, the provincial government looking to? And they told me it would be similar to, 314 00:22:54,000 --> 00:23:01,680 it's the least, it's the least of a footprint. It's very similar to the tobyatic. So there would be 315 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:11,980 people that could fish hunt, be on existing routes and they did make a point of telling 316 00:23:11,980 --> 00:23:16,280 me as well that the thing that I think we should all be concerned about is that people 317 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:22,860 aren't ATVing through the peak bugs because the peak bugs are a carbon sink and so the 318 00:23:22,860 --> 00:23:28,560 gentleman that I was speaking to said it doesn't matter if it's in a protected area or not 319 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:34,480 that's actually against the law. So, so the level of protection that the province is looking at 320 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:42,320 currently is the least footprint similar to the Tobiatic. And I think the premise for the province 321 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:48,000 of Nova Scotia is 20% of their land mass. I think that's out there somewhere in that regard, yeah. 322 00:23:49,910 --> 00:23:52,030 Okay, thank you for that. Councillor Richardson? 323 00:23:54,370 --> 00:24:03,130 I have all kinds of questions to concern, but probably it for me, but if I remember correctly, 324 00:24:03,370 --> 00:24:13,830 it's surrounded by a population that is housing, mixed resource and whatever, people are 325 00:24:13,830 --> 00:24:22,830 now permanently using a fair amount of it, period. And what brings comes to my 326 00:24:22,830 --> 00:24:27,690 mind when you talk about wilderness is wilderness. Wilderness doesn't come with 327 00:24:27,690 --> 00:24:29,470 the population of people. 328 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:37,380 So at the other one of the other problems I have with it 329 00:24:37,380 --> 00:24:44,020 is it dealing with some of the nature reserves and how they creep. 330 00:24:44,620 --> 00:24:50,960 It seems like you go in with one agenda and it shifts over time. 331 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:59,200 But I really have major questions about that area that takes that, you might as well say 332 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:04,960 a fair gist of the peninsula in, and there's a population surrounding it. 333 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:11,700 And as far as when it comes to animals, there's probably populations of deer, rabbits, 334 00:25:11,900 --> 00:25:17,900 and so on, but not anything I don't think that is probably the ordinary that would 335 00:25:17,900 --> 00:25:21,620 warrant anything over and above some area. 336 00:25:22,060 --> 00:25:28,820 And to my mind, I would rather see something in remote that you already have a limited human 337 00:25:28,820 --> 00:25:34,220 footprint in preventing getting worse, not where you already have 338 00:25:34,860 --> 00:25:40,720 human footprints in there all the time, and you're going to try and limit them. That never 339 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:45,260 goes well in these closed areas. And I can speak to that from experience. 340 00:25:46,620 --> 00:25:52,740 Thank you for that. And I know the CEO has a question or perhaps comments on that. And I'll 341 00:25:52,740 --> 00:26:02,080 just add one other. I don't recall seeing presentations in the area on this. Maybe I've 342 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,540 missed it, but I'm not sure, but I'm thinking with something like that that the province 343 00:26:06,540 --> 00:26:13,690 should be holding some sort of consultation, presentation, something for the community. 344 00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:17,950 At CAO, did you want to comment on that or perhaps something else? 345 00:26:18,810 --> 00:26:19,730 Yeah, thank you, Warden. 346 00:26:20,570 --> 00:26:20,990 Yeah, you're right. 347 00:26:21,170 --> 00:26:25,770 I'm not aware of any public consultation that was done with regard to this proposed site. 348 00:26:26,490 --> 00:26:32,810 The other thing which I think is probably worth noting at this council is that of the 349 00:26:32,810 --> 00:26:38,490 And the total acreage for the 13 sites around the province that are being proposed. 350 00:26:39,290 --> 00:26:41,350 Sandy Point is by far the largest. 351 00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:45,610 I think the total acreage of all 13 sites, I think something like 1,900 acres or something 352 00:26:45,610 --> 00:26:46,010 like that. 353 00:26:47,030 --> 00:26:48,690 This is 880 acres. 354 00:26:48,910 --> 00:26:55,290 The next biggest one is one near Halifax, so hectares you're right, is I think 550 and then 355 00:26:55,290 --> 00:26:57,890 the rest are like in the 50s, hundreds, that type of thing. 356 00:26:57,890 --> 00:27:09,830 So it's and then and then I once the ward and I started talking about this I went and went on the government websites and then started to do some estimations of 357 00:27:10,510 --> 00:27:22,070 exactly how much land do we have in our municipality that is dedicated to the various designations of protected land wilderness areas, one of them and then there's about three or four other 358 00:27:23,610 --> 00:27:30,170 designations. But my calculations, and I need to do some double checking on that, we 359 00:27:30,170 --> 00:27:37,770 have something like 51% of the land within our municipality has some form of environmental 360 00:27:37,770 --> 00:27:47,170 protection placed upon it, which is far greater than the provincial goal of 20%. So one of 361 00:27:47,170 --> 00:27:51,230 the considerations for council, maybe to talk about right now, is whether or not that 362 00:27:51,230 --> 00:28:00,770 That is a point that we want to bring up with the province and why is it that they've put 363 00:28:00,770 --> 00:28:10,010 such a large emphasis of the designations in the 13 zones on children, and given the 364 00:28:10,010 --> 00:28:13,930 fact that we've already got such a large designation within our municipality already. 365 00:28:15,030 --> 00:28:17,410 Yeah, thank you very much for that, C.A. 366 00:28:17,410 --> 00:28:22,970 And I'm wondering at this point, before we get into all of that, whether we should be 367 00:28:23,830 --> 00:28:31,050 writing the province and asking for them to do, to hold at least one public meeting consultation 368 00:28:31,050 --> 00:28:37,490 in Sandy Point, and so that the residents at least are aware of what this actually means in us as well, 369 00:28:37,490 --> 00:28:45,170 before we provide comments or write anything without knowing exactly what it means, I guess. 370 00:28:45,170 --> 00:28:47,970 I have Councillor Thoroughb and Irvine. 371 00:28:48,130 --> 00:28:48,530 Oh, sorry. 372 00:28:48,650 --> 00:28:50,890 I had Deputy Warden first and then Councillor Thoroughb and Irvine. 373 00:28:51,170 --> 00:28:54,150 I just have a comment about the feedback part of it. 374 00:28:55,210 --> 00:29:00,550 We should be directed in our residents to send their feedback to whichever party is whether 375 00:29:00,550 --> 00:29:02,510 it's environment or it's in and out. 376 00:29:02,970 --> 00:29:05,970 I don't feel we should be taking the feedback from the residents. 377 00:29:05,970 --> 00:29:08,090 We need to direct them directly to them. 378 00:29:08,490 --> 00:29:08,810 Yeah, absolutely. 379 00:29:09,090 --> 00:29:10,870 And I think that's what's taking place right now. 380 00:29:10,870 --> 00:29:11,370 Exactly. 381 00:29:11,910 --> 00:29:12,430 100%. 382 00:29:12,430 --> 00:29:18,990 And I have done that very things just so you know, Councilor Wagner, absolutely 100%. 383 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,710 It is an opportunity for people to lend their voices to a process. 384 00:29:22,910 --> 00:29:28,970 Having said that, I think we do ourselves a dispeaper without asking the province for exactly 385 00:29:28,970 --> 00:29:34,350 what you said, you know, to have all the information because people, there's going to be a variety 386 00:29:34,350 --> 00:29:38,850 of emotions and we want the facts in order for people to be making a decision. 387 00:29:39,530 --> 00:29:57,690 And I would just, I feel I would be remiss because I know partially there will be people that will be profoundly feeling like it's a protection of water and water source as it relates to the peninsula and we know we've got, you know, a Savannah out there. 388 00:29:57,690 --> 00:29:59,970 So it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's 389 00:30:00,750 --> 00:30:29,950 It's some kind of protection, I feel, in terms of drought on that peninsula having that there. So I think the province, I would strongly be in favor. I think we, it's an advocacy issue that we ask the province for more information. And then it's up to everybody to show up for it or not. And I just would also like to add Councillor Richardson, what you said around the natural resources. When we're all taxed, 390 00:30:29,950 --> 00:30:36,890 Because I know I'm there, we are taxed on, there's a resource sector that's part of our 391 00:30:36,890 --> 00:30:37,210 tax. 392 00:30:38,110 --> 00:30:41,750 I don't know if that taps into what you're saying. 393 00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:44,310 I don't know how that impacts. 394 00:30:44,590 --> 00:30:49,150 So ultimately to have more information from the province, we don't ask to be treated differently 395 00:30:49,150 --> 00:30:55,650 from the other 12 sites, but it is a large area and I think our citizens would appreciate 396 00:30:55,650 --> 00:30:59,690 the opportunity to tap into additional information. 397 00:31:00,690 --> 00:31:10,150 So if we have consensus to ask a public consultation meeting session in the community, 398 00:31:10,550 --> 00:31:16,770 so that the community and the municipality as a whole can learn more before responding. 399 00:31:17,130 --> 00:31:23,290 Yeah, it isn't for us to take the lead. It's for us to advocate for something like this is what I would suggest. 400 00:31:24,290 --> 00:31:28,150 and census to do that? Okay, wonderful. Councillor Richardson? 401 00:31:28,650 --> 00:31:38,230 Just a parting, you know, and why? If that is the reason to protect a watershed or whatever, 402 00:31:38,490 --> 00:31:44,510 then if that state, if that's a whole different ballgame, but what they have put out that it's wildly 403 00:31:44,510 --> 00:31:51,030 reserved, what comes to mind is just what I know personally, there's a large tract of land from 404 00:31:51,030 --> 00:31:57,030 the nature trust in Ohio, there's one in Little Harvard, there's one in Johnson's 405 00:31:57,030 --> 00:32:02,870 Fawn, there's one in West Hitt, and they are not small tracks of land, we're 406 00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:08,670 talking 100 plus acres most every one of those, and the other fact that I 407 00:32:08,670 --> 00:32:14,230 have a problem with is they seem to be cropping up and not just nature 408 00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:20,390 trust but these wilderness areas or whatever, with no overall plan. If you're 409 00:32:20,390 --> 00:32:25,390 going into a section, you shouldn't target Shelburne County necessarily or 410 00:32:26,210 --> 00:32:31,370 Yarmouth County, but if there was a provincial plan, then I would like to see it 411 00:32:31,370 --> 00:32:35,890 and I'd like to understand that because I don't think Elder Skelter, they're 412 00:32:35,890 --> 00:32:40,830 doing anybody any favors. I think those are all excellent points. Thank you, 413 00:32:41,010 --> 00:32:47,390 Councillor Richardson, Councillor Sutherland. We already have one of the largest 414 00:32:47,390 --> 00:32:48,630 in the scope of that. 415 00:32:49,490 --> 00:32:51,230 And that's how we can. 416 00:32:51,290 --> 00:32:53,850 Yeah, and that's very exponentially from the time. 417 00:32:54,330 --> 00:32:56,150 The place of where they said they were going to start. 418 00:32:56,690 --> 00:32:56,910 Yeah. 419 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,540 Okay, so we know we have an action plan. 420 00:33:02,540 --> 00:33:05,980 I guess moving forward that we will ask the province to host. 421 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,480 A public consultation meeting regarding this matter. 422 00:33:11,220 --> 00:33:15,580 With the, with the residents or with the in the municipality in that area. 423 00:33:16,340 --> 00:33:24,220 Okay. Thank you for that. We'll move on now to 8B and this is an item for Councillor Richardson 424 00:33:24,220 --> 00:33:32,360 regarding trails. The Roseway River Trail in the Jordan Trail. I had individuals inquire 425 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:43,680 as to the Roseway River that are L.O.A. Be adjusted to be multi-use trail and whether that has taken place 426 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:50,080 in the process? Okay, I don't know, CAO, if you can answer that, but my understanding is we were 427 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:56,240 waiting for the province to make a decision on an apportion moving forward in that area as well, 428 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:04,820 I believe. Yeah, that's correct. So Adam isn't here, so but yeah, we were waiting to find out what 429 00:34:04,820 --> 00:34:14,040 the status was of the other sections of the trail, but there are options when I'm thinking 430 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:21,040 about the Roseway River Trail in terms of whether or not you keep it just for walking 431 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,440 or whether or not it's multi-use. 432 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,960 That really is a decision for councilors to whether or not you want to do that, but I believe 433 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:35,140 that Adam also had some ideas in terms of the fact that there are other alternatives in 434 00:34:35,140 --> 00:34:43,780 terms of the vehicles using actually the road rather than the trail. But I think Councillor 435 00:34:43,780 --> 00:34:49,900 if you don't mind because Adam isn't here, let me go back to Adam and ask him to put together 436 00:34:50,580 --> 00:34:56,800 an email to Council for a more comprehensive view on the different options that are available to 437 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:03,300 Council. I believe that he did give a presentation on it before, but I just can't remember the details 438 00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:08,140 of that presentation at the present time. Maybe what I can do is pull out that presentation 439 00:35:08,140 --> 00:35:16,020 from before and forwarded to Council. Thank you very much for that CEO. He did do a comprehensive 440 00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:25,160 staff report to Council. I think it was last fall. I'm not sure. And he did provide different 441 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:31,060 options regarding the trail and I believe it was at that time that he mentioned about and I believe 442 00:35:31,060 --> 00:35:35,720 that council at the time had said that we were going to wait to see what the decision of the 443 00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:39,180 province was before we decided which option we wanted to go with. 444 00:35:42,410 --> 00:35:43,830 Okay, and then the other is the 445 00:35:43,830 --> 00:35:51,690 trail. Well, ideally a good update on that. The concern was otherwise that they're on the road. 446 00:35:51,730 --> 00:35:55,850 It's illegal without going to the province and getting an allocation for that. 447 00:35:55,850 --> 00:36:04,610 So, it's a matter of making it legal one way or another, but anyhow, I would be in favor of opening up it. 448 00:36:05,410 --> 00:36:11,350 That being said, the other question was the design of our bridge that we okayed for Jordan. 449 00:36:12,530 --> 00:36:18,170 My understanding is we okayed that architecture design. 450 00:36:18,170 --> 00:36:26,170 have they had made the ATV clubs making inquiries as to was there a pull-off on that bridge? 451 00:36:26,730 --> 00:36:28,610 And to my knowledge, there was none. 452 00:36:30,070 --> 00:36:34,250 Yeah, I think we made that motion a couple of months ago about moving ahead. 453 00:36:34,910 --> 00:36:39,790 And I believe you're right, Councillor Richardson. I don't believe there was any discussion at all about a pull-off. 454 00:36:40,950 --> 00:36:43,350 CAO, do you want to comment on that as well? 455 00:36:45,330 --> 00:36:49,070 Councilor Richardson, are you talking about a pull-off on the actual bridge itself? 456 00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:53,590 When you say pull-off, like, yes, if you've got oncoming traffic, there's an area that they can pull 457 00:36:53,590 --> 00:37:00,410 aside so they can pass each other? Yes. No, it's not on the actual bridge itself, but I imagine because 458 00:37:00,410 --> 00:37:05,890 people will be able to see each other approaching the bridge in either end, that someone could stop and 459 00:37:05,890 --> 00:37:12,070 let the other person who's oncoming go across the bridge before they go across, because it is within 460 00:37:12,070 --> 00:37:18,490 an eyesight. Yeah, and I, if I'm not mistaken, that was never put forward or talked about. 461 00:37:18,690 --> 00:37:24,850 So I thought we had passed the design of that. So thank you. Yeah, now that it's, the contract 462 00:37:24,850 --> 00:37:28,070 has actually been signed. The kickoff meeting is actually going to be this week. 463 00:37:30,290 --> 00:37:31,490 So, Council 464 00:37:31,490 --> 00:37:39,330 will be getting an email from Adam with regard to the scheduling of the construction going forward 465 00:37:39,330 --> 00:37:49,050 And there will also be public communications with regard to residents so that residents are well aware of what's happening and the timing of the construction. 466 00:37:50,510 --> 00:37:55,310 Excellent. Thank you for that. Thank you, Councillor Richardson, Deputy Warden. 467 00:37:55,710 --> 00:38:08,290 In CIO, can we just make sure to relate to Adam that the email go to the association as well. I know they're residents, but if the ATV association has that information as well, that would be great. 468 00:38:08,290 --> 00:38:10,870 because I was approached as well from one of the members. 469 00:38:11,610 --> 00:38:12,950 With regard to the bridge? 470 00:38:13,730 --> 00:38:14,050 Yes. 471 00:38:14,750 --> 00:38:15,550 Yeah, absolutely. 472 00:38:15,770 --> 00:38:17,790 That will be forwarded to that for sure. 473 00:38:17,910 --> 00:38:18,230 Thank you. 474 00:38:19,870 --> 00:38:20,350 Okay. 475 00:38:20,570 --> 00:38:21,230 Thank you for that. 476 00:38:21,870 --> 00:38:25,070 Moving on to nine committee reports and warden update. 477 00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:29,070 Do we have any committee reports to report on this evening? 478 00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:29,430 Yes. 479 00:38:29,710 --> 00:38:30,810 Councilor Thorbener-Vine. 480 00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:31,390 Thank you. 481 00:38:31,830 --> 00:38:36,330 If I could just go back to me the 27th of the day I couldn't attend council meeting. 482 00:38:36,330 --> 00:38:41,450 I did attend the day-long Western County Crownland. 483 00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:47,830 It used to be called stakeholder group and it was very interesting at the beginning 484 00:38:47,830 --> 00:38:48,310 of that. 485 00:38:48,410 --> 00:38:54,830 It was an excellent day trip out into Crownland where there's been sections of land 486 00:38:54,830 --> 00:38:58,950 blogged and Westphore being one of the stakeholders. 487 00:39:00,650 --> 00:39:07,350 There is research with bringing in seed migration from other countries that are more drought-tolerant, 488 00:39:07,710 --> 00:39:13,530 creating plots of land and seeing how that's going to fit as we continue to create forests 489 00:39:13,530 --> 00:39:17,490 that are more resilient, given droughts and potential threat to wildfires. 490 00:39:17,490 --> 00:39:18,770 It was an excellent day. 491 00:39:21,010 --> 00:39:27,550 So I would just add that we're going to want to change that group name because David Sposter, 492 00:39:27,550 --> 00:39:32,850 who I think he's part of the Strong Consulting Group, he had said he's decided to change the name 493 00:39:32,850 --> 00:39:38,070 of the group to the Western County Crown Land Interaction Group and he made the point 494 00:39:38,750 --> 00:39:44,850 and it was this discussion around nuance of language that our First Nations people or 495 00:39:44,850 --> 00:39:51,090 Indigenous maybe is the term, to the better term to use, they are not stakeholders, they are 496 00:39:51,090 --> 00:39:57,070 right holders. And so anyways that was very good, we went on the field, it was just excellent 497 00:39:57,070 --> 00:39:59,630 And I do have a couple of YouTube video, 498 00:40:00,230 --> 00:40:03,410 no, I shouldn't say YouTube, I'm gonna post them to YouTube. 499 00:40:03,870 --> 00:40:07,430 It's just excellent from the medway forestry group 500 00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:11,590 and what they're doing on the hemlock woolly adalgent, 501 00:40:12,190 --> 00:40:14,870 which threatens all our hemlock and the hemlock 502 00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:18,710 is a really important species, again, with drought tolerance. 503 00:40:19,890 --> 00:40:22,110 So that was that day. 504 00:40:22,730 --> 00:40:25,450 And then I actually dumped into anaphylaxis 505 00:40:25,450 --> 00:40:29,050 because I was a hot and exhausted and I didn't have my 506 00:40:29,050 --> 00:40:32,710 epiphan and I had better drill that I had to go get and so I was 507 00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:38,590 whacked. That's why I didn't attend council. Okay. Yeah, yeah. So June 508 00:40:38,590 --> 00:40:42,230 the 4th we had an audit risk and finance committee meeting 509 00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:46,410 through for the Western County Regional Library Board. That was 510 00:40:46,410 --> 00:40:52,390 very good and just, you know, those audit and risk committees 511 00:40:52,390 --> 00:40:53,650 is doing what they need to do. 512 00:40:54,510 --> 00:40:58,790 And then yesterday, we had an end July the 9th. 513 00:40:58,790 --> 00:41:02,690 We had our Eastern Shelton County equity 514 00:41:02,690 --> 00:41:05,050 and anti-racism advisory committee 515 00:41:05,870 --> 00:41:09,590 with Adam leading that as staff and then Jesse Dyer 516 00:41:09,590 --> 00:41:10,290 from the town. 517 00:41:10,910 --> 00:41:13,150 And we had some excellent public members 518 00:41:13,150 --> 00:41:15,950 that have stepped forward, and people 519 00:41:15,950 --> 00:41:18,530 are going to be thoughtful around who will chair 520 00:41:18,530 --> 00:41:22,310 and vice chair that similar to the economic growth 521 00:41:22,310 --> 00:41:32,490 committee, so people are quite enthused about the voice that they'll be able to lend to process to government process on that subject matter. 522 00:41:33,950 --> 00:41:34,230 Yeah. 523 00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:47,200 I think even the very good we had in the Muggle Nation meeting here at our council chambers, which I felt went very well personally. I'll put on a very good presentation. 524 00:41:47,200 --> 00:42:00,240 Um, those of council that wasn't here, you can catch it on, it was recorded. So you should actually listen to that. He did put on a very good presentation on June the 4th. 525 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:06,880 Rosemary Manor, which we discussed the ongoing strike and was pleased to hear over the weekend that we had the tentative deal. 526 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:13,260 Um, a little laugh for everybody. I was at all three areas for the meat and that night I came here. It wasn't here. 527 00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:30,800 We didn't have time to do that, but we're pleased to hear that there is a tentative deal on the table right now, and it will be great for the residents because they're the ones in the end that need that support and help. 528 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,060 And we're glad that you showed up in the office. 529 00:42:34,060 --> 00:42:41,560 for it. Councilor Shandt. I'm kind of my first climate action committee meeting. They are 530 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:46,760 starting their in-person sessions across the county to start the process of influencing 531 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:51,040 community events to gather and community members input on emerging and climate change, 532 00:42:51,340 --> 00:42:55,080 so they're starting those. I think the 15th actually is the first one that they're doing. 533 00:42:56,460 --> 00:43:00,900 Kind of the Shelburne County Arena meeting, which this is one of the first year, they are not 534 00:43:00,900 --> 00:43:03,480 in a deficit, they actually earned a profit this year. 535 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:03,940 Excellent. 536 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,560 They budgeted $500 for what ice time would have been. 537 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:08,740 That's what last year was. 538 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,340 This year, they were $14,000 for the ice time right there. 539 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,700 So the current management of the arena 540 00:43:14,700 --> 00:43:17,820 is doing an amazing job in getting those rentals out there. 541 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,980 And a big thank you to all the volunteers 542 00:43:19,980 --> 00:43:23,880 that are working the canteen and the bingos. 543 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,180 They are making all the difference 544 00:43:25,180 --> 00:43:27,020 in keeping that place afloat. 545 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,840 Also attended the Rosemary Manor 4, 546 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:37,180 which I showed up on time. Which was also my first and was really good to see what that's all 547 00:43:37,180 --> 00:43:41,800 about and it's very excited for the tent of agreement. Hopefully that goes through. I also 548 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:48,200 saw the regular committed meetings attended the Understanding Human Rights webinar that was offered 549 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:55,000 by the NSMF bed last week. Which was very interesting and last week then Penny and I both attended 550 00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:01,520 that the Pride Walk, which had a really great attendance, as well as the Black Loyalist 551 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:06,880 Seafarers Exhibit Opening, which was really very well done as well. 552 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:14,280 Thank you for that. A number of the items or meetings that I was going to mention has already been 553 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,200 mentioned by Councillor Shannon Deputy Warden. Councillor Richardson. 554 00:44:19,780 --> 00:44:25,380 Not directly one of our committees just to update on our community garden and food share. 555 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,980 The greenhouse has been coming well. 556 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:37,740 We have purchased a building and an auxiliary building to house refrigeration. 557 00:44:38,340 --> 00:44:39,640 We've already started harvesting. 558 00:44:40,380 --> 00:44:47,120 We had the first sale this last Sunday at the market downtown. 559 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:54,960 and we had 30 bags of lettuce that were available and actually we've gone over 60 560 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,480 bags of lettuce and harvested so far. So there's a lot of plants coming on 561 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:19,700 If anybody has any free money in their accounts, letters out there looking at the donations. So, thank you. And I believe that the Welcome Neighbors event on the 30th, I think there were 23 bags of lettuce there to give away. So, 562 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:38,380 the cherry tomatoes and we've got the peas growing and carrots and cucumber and peppers. 563 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:48,620 Yeah, it's fabulous. It's really great. So as I said a number of the items or events and meetings 564 00:45:48,620 --> 00:45:57,720 I was going to mention have already been mentioned but on May 30th that was a very busy day for everyone. 565 00:45:57,720 --> 00:46:05,280 I think there were like a half a dozen events happening, so Councillor Schand has already 566 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:10,520 mentioned about the Pride Walk that we attended together that morning at our house. 567 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,620 And I gave remarks on behalf of the municipality. 568 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:21,480 And then at one o'clock at the Black Loyalist Heritage Center was the African Nova Scotian 569 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:34,600 and I stayed until 145 and thankfully Councillor Schand was able to stay the whole time and she gave my remarks on behalf of the municipality, so thank you very much for that, Councillor. 570 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:41,360 And I headed to Shelton Regional High School to MC the Welcome Neighbors event that was happening at 2. 571 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:55,440 So, very busy day for sure, but, again, and I think I mentioned this at the last council meeting all extremely important events in their own way and their own for their own reasons. 572 00:46:56,100 --> 00:47:03,420 So, yeah, and I think there may have been a one or two suffers happening afternoon or that evening as well. 573 00:47:03,420 --> 00:47:13,320 Well, June 1st was the community Nova Scotia Health and group meeting and the NSH update 574 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,180 has been posted. 575 00:47:14,340 --> 00:47:17,500 I believe on both our Facebook and website. 576 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:23,860 June 3rd, again, Deputy Warden mentioned that the amalgamation steering committee meeting 577 00:47:24,180 --> 00:47:29,900 and Chris McNeil, I agreed, did a really great presentation. 578 00:47:29,900 --> 00:47:56,120 I think everyone who was there and participated really got something out of the discussion and he also left with us and he went through with us the 17 lessons from four plus amalgamations and dissolution so I believe Nicole may have a copy of this. 579 00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:02,260 So if anyone is interested in that, it may already be on our website. I'm not sure, but really interesting 580 00:48:04,340 --> 00:48:05,760 information in this. 581 00:48:08,410 --> 00:48:16,470 Sorry. Okay. Um, yeah. So, yes. Yes. Thank you. Excuse me, Deputy Warden. 582 00:48:17,630 --> 00:48:24,730 We are going to hold the next amalgamation steering meeting on, I believe it's the second. 583 00:48:24,730 --> 00:48:29,750 And is it the second Tuesday of the month? 584 00:48:30,050 --> 00:48:33,730 I believe it's July 7th in the Lockport. 585 00:48:34,390 --> 00:48:38,390 Excuse me, there were residents in that area who had requested that I believe. 586 00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:42,310 And I think that's a great opportunity to be present there. 587 00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:48,170 And hopefully there will be lots of residents who come out for that meeting. 588 00:48:49,350 --> 00:48:50,990 Yes, that's 6 o'clock. 589 00:48:50,990 --> 00:48:58,390 and I don't know that the venue has been decided yet, so yeah. So there'll be a 590 00:48:58,390 --> 00:49:04,670 post on that. Again, Councillor Schand and Deputy Warden has already mentioned 591 00:49:04,670 --> 00:49:12,470 the Rosway Manor Board Meeting in Lockport on June 4th and I echo the I guess 592 00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:17,170 the relief and happiness to know that there is a tentative agreement. I don't know 593 00:49:17,170 --> 00:49:21,430 that we've heard anything else since the last weekend on this. 594 00:49:22,530 --> 00:49:27,210 And this evening, the Shelburne Area Chamber of Commerce is hosting, or sorry, holding 595 00:49:27,210 --> 00:49:29,970 its AGM and they have a special guest speaker there. 596 00:49:30,590 --> 00:49:35,750 And I believe he's speaking about community partners and creating new revenue, generating 597 00:49:37,530 --> 00:49:42,550 and sustainable local experiences I believe is what I read for travelers. 598 00:49:44,050 --> 00:49:48,770 So really the experiential tourism, I believe, is really what it's all about. 599 00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:57,530 I'm not sure if there was a member of our staff who was planning to attend that, but I'm sure it will be well attended. 600 00:49:59,730 --> 00:50:08,790 Okay. We can now, let's see here, it is 6.50 p.m. If we can have a motion, please, to go in camera at this time. 601 00:50:11,450 --> 00:50:19,230 Thank you very much. It's been moved and seconded. All those in favor of the motion signify by saying aye. 602 00:50:19,770 --> 00:50:19,990 Aye. 603 00:50:20,690 --> 00:50:23,110 Those supposed no motion is carried. 604 00:50:23,710 --> 00:50:28,810 Okay, if we can have a motion to go out of in camera at 720 please. 605 00:50:30,410 --> 00:50:31,530 I'll make that motion. 606 00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:32,330 Thank you. 607 00:50:32,490 --> 00:50:38,270 Thank you. It's been moved and seconded. All those in favor of the motion signify by saying aye. 608 00:50:38,270 --> 00:50:48,070 Hi, those supposed no motion is carried and it's 7.21 p.m. and we will adjourn our meeting for the evening. Thank you, everyone.