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[0:00] Okay, it is 6 o'clock and we'll call our council meeting to order and welcome everyone this evening. Our first item of business is the approval of the agenda of June 10th, 2026. And we have had one addition requested from Councillor Richardson and we'll put it under 8v, trails, the Roseway River Trail and Jordan Trail. Are there any other items to be included on the agenda?
[0:32] Councillor Thoroughb and Irvine?
[0:34] I'm just on acceptance of the minutes I was just going to note a correction.
[0:40] Okay.
[0:40] So we'll do our agenda first and then we'll move on to that item.
[0:43] Thank you.
[0:44] Sure.
[0:45] Any other items to include on the agenda?
[0:49] If not, if we can have a motion to approve the agenda as amended please.
[0:54] I'll move it.
[0:55] Thank you.
[0:56] Thank you.
[0:57] It's been moved and seconded.
[0:58] All those in favor of the motion signify by saying aye.
[1:02] Aye.
[1:03] Those opposed no motion is carried.
[1:06] Okay, moving on to acceptance of the minutes of May 27, 2026.
[1:11] Are there any changes required to those minutes?
[1:14] And I believe Councillor Thorbener-Royne, you had an item?
[1:17] Thank you.
[1:17] Just could we note that I was absent for that council meeting.
[1:23] I hadn't held a health issue that came up and couldn't attend.
[1:27] and thank you.
[1:29] Thank you, anything further?
[1:32] If not, we can accept the minutes as amended.
[1:36] Moving on to business arising from the minutes,
[1:39] anything to come before council this evening?
[1:43] Hearing none, we'll move on to presentations.
[1:46] We have one this evening.
[1:48] Mike Conn, Director of Planning and Development
[1:51] for the town of Shelton will be presenting this evening
[1:54] regarding the bulk water fill station proposal.
[1:57] Welcome.
[1:58] and we will do a round of introductions because I'm not sure, Mr. Cahn, if you know everyone around the council table, so I'm Penny Smith. I'm the warden for the municipality of Shelburne and Councillor for District 2.
[2:11] And that covers the communities from Roseway through to Reeds Hill. And I'll move to my far left, please.
[2:17] Dale Richardson for district seven, which takes from alley lines through the communities
[2:26] right through into law for corner, wrong call on district six from law for corner, basically
[2:35] all west head all the way into East Jordan, including East Jordan.
[2:45] Hi, Mike.
[2:45] It's my name is Sherry Thorbener, I'm the district three councilor for Sandy Point, and that's town line to approximately I think the civic is 2272.
[2:56] I
[2:59] do Wagner that we award in district five. I do lower Sandy Point right to East Jordan also.
[3:06] Good evening. I will settle in District 1, Beaver Dam to red it room.
[3:16] Angie Shean for District 4, which is West Town Ohio along the highway to
[3:22] Woodland Drive and through that area.
[3:26] Nicole Blades executive assistant. Thank you
[3:29] very much and we do have staff that have joined us virtually this evening as
[3:36] well. So welcome and the floor is yours. Thank you. Good evening council. I'm
[3:41] this evening to talk about a potential bulk fill station for the Shelburne area. On the next
[3:46] slide, we can see there is an example of the bulk fill station in Yarmut. Some of the things
[3:51] to note in that picture are the gravel along the edge of the paved surfaces to allow for drainage,
[3:57] the concrete pad that the unit is sitting on, the posts around it to protect it from vehicles
[4:01] backing into it, as well as the drainage as well around the concrete pad itself, and you'll notice
[4:07] there's a hose one and a hose two. So there is the ability to bring in other sizes as well.
[4:12] So the overhead arm there is a two-inch line that would be used to fill water cubes and water
[4:16] trucks. That other hose one location could be used for sort of a jump-fill type arrangement.
[4:22] The current ones that the town is looking at won't include a jump fill but could easily be retrofitted
[4:25] like the picture shows there to include a jump fill.
[4:30] On the next slide we can see the sort of overall
[4:32] sketch and just sort of how much space it takes up. It takes up approximately 55 meters by 30 meters
[4:36] or 180 feet by 100 feet. So that's kind of the footprint we would be looking at.
[4:41] One of the key pieces from looking at other areas is good traffic flow because you're going to have
[4:45] a number of people most likely with trailers. You want to make sure the traffic can flow around the
[4:49] station quite easily, otherwise you're going to wind up with that traffic. So we're looking at different
[4:55] locations in town, but on the next slide is sort of our first blush that where we would think it
[4:59] would go near the community center, but not adjacent to the community center. Going back to those sort
[5:04] of traffic concerns, the concern is that it will clog the community center if there were
[5:09] people there or if the fire trucks needed to get out, we wouldn't of course want people
[5:12] with water trailers blocking the way. So that's one of the potential locations. We are going
[5:17] to be looking at public engagement on other locations, another location that was considered
[5:20] was by the Shelmer and Wastewater treatment plant, their space there, and their water main there.
[5:26] Next up we have the cost of the bulk fill station. So the actual sort of box itself is 87,000
[5:31] and that's another 90,000 to prepare the site around it.
[5:34] There's a contingency on the civil work,
[5:36] so the paving, the concrete and whatnot.
[5:39] And there's also a note on the first two years of operations
[5:42] because the bulk fill station has some additional costs related
[5:45] to it directly.
[5:46] The water utility can't charge back for it,
[5:48] so that would be a loss to the water utility
[5:49] if we didn't cover off that for $800.
[5:51] That brings us to Gishai of $200,000 for the bulk fill station.
[5:55] On the next slide, it talks about how we're considering upfunding it.
[5:58] We've already taken a look at the Green Municipal Fund for rapid adaptation, and unfortunately
[6:03] we do not qualify.
[6:04] We don't qualify as the federal government requires us to just water it away, but provincial
[6:08] government requires us to charge for the water, so we are not able to access that grant.
[6:13] We are looking at the Sustainable Community Challenge Fund, the FCCF, which would fund
[6:18] scenario one, 159,800, and would lead both municipalities to fund 20,000 themselves.
[6:24] The second scenario has been allocated by the town of Shelbert, 62,500, that would enable
[6:31] a potential for a lower grant, like a GMF grant, or potentially for a surcharge.
[6:37] So potentially, there could be, say, a dollar or two a cube added in surcharge, and that
[6:42] would fund the actual station itself, however that approach requires UARB approval.
[6:47] So it would not be very timely to go down that route to do the surcharge route.
[6:51] There's also the risk that it would discourage people from using it if the chart was too high and
[6:59] that I believe is it for the presentation. I'm happy to take questions.
[7:03] Okay. Thank you very much for that.
[7:07] I've got a couple of mics lit up here, so we'll start with Councillor Richardson.
[7:13] So this is a bulk water station.
[7:18] I guess my main question would be, is there any opportunity for citizens or people with
[7:25] one gallon, two gallon, five gallon jugs to fill?
[7:28] So as this proposed right now, that wouldn't be possible.
[7:30] Part of the reason behind that is the UARB requires us to charge for the water and the minimum
[7:34] charge is $50.
[7:36] So even if someone came forward with a four liter jug, we would have to charge them $50.
[7:40] We're looking into getting our water rate study.
[7:42] The town has to go forward for a water rate study within the next two years anyways.
[7:45] and so we would get that updated. Town of Yarmouth, for their part, did get that updated so they could now not have to charge that. Their minimum charge is now $5.00, not $50.00.
[7:54] Part of their rationale is to why that $50 minimum charge is there.
[7:57] Is as originally envisioned, a bulk fill would require a staff person to actually show up and physically needer the water.
[8:03] So that's why that is there. So someone had asked for four leaders to be needed by a person. They would have crossed $50.00.
[8:09] So unfortunately, that's the way it is, but we are looking at addressing that.
[8:13] It's unfortunate because I think we are supposing that we've heard a lot of interest
[8:21] from the public at large for those individual water deliveries or pickups.
[8:27] So thank you.
[8:30] Thank you.
[8:31] Councillor Coul.
[8:32] Oh, I do not.
[8:34] That's okay.
[8:35] Councillor Thorben-Neil-Hau.
[8:37] I also think you make, I guess, you know, we're really looking at ultimately.
[8:42] being able to deliver water in the reality of our drought scenarios going forward.
[8:48] And we recently had a presentation on desalination, and so there's a cost to both of those.
[8:54] Has the tail considered the desalination option at all?
[8:59] No, the tail has access to a plentiful water supply at Lake Rockland.
[9:02] Okay. Okay. Yeah. So I don't have any other questions at this point.
[9:09] Thank you. CAO.
[9:12] Thank you, Warden. And thank you, Mike, for your presentation. Much appreciated.
[9:17] Mike, do you envision any circumstances whereby you would restrict customers from getting water from that bulk fuel station?
[9:29] It's a good question. Most likely not. The UARB rules on how we can restrict access to water and things like that.
[9:37] The only scenario I would see would be a corporate customer who hadn't paid
[9:42] Okay, thank you very much
[9:47] I've got a couple that I'm gonna go to my car right now and counselor shan
[9:52] I think you have a question or a comment. I have three questions. Thank you
[9:56] First one being who would serve as a system and complete water testing on the regular basis
[10:01] It would be responsible for that
[10:03] The town of Shelburne's water utility would be, so we have a water operator who would be responsible
[10:07] for the bulk fill station. It does also effectively clean itself, so after each use it releases
[10:11] a little bit through and a little bit more water so that each time every person comes up
[10:14] the receptacle is still clean. So would there be any cost that would be asked for the municipality
[10:20] to participate in paying for any of that? No. The UARB through their rate of study would come out
[10:26] with a rate is the amount, not amount covers absolutely everything. And how long would it take to build
[10:31] something like this. A couple of months. So something like if if everybody were into
[10:36] agreements to make it, it would be not something we'd see this summer type thing, it would be.
[10:41] The grant we're looking at, the SCCF, the preliminary application closes at the end of this month,
[10:46] final application closes at the end of July, but decisions aren't until November. So November,
[10:51] we would hope to get a shovel on the ground if we were successful before the snow flies and go from that.
[10:55] So once the original cost that you had spoke of, then there is no additional cost after that.
[11:03] So if something were to break in the system or something went wrong, how is the fees to cover
[11:09] that debuted offer? Who is responsibility of that? It's a water utility. The water utility will
[11:13] ultimately only asset. So the currently the town's water rate is $8.32 per cubic meter and that covers
[11:19] everything from the cost of chemicals to the cost of maintenance of equipment. When we go to
[11:23] from Ford for our next rate study,
[11:24] that rate will most likely go up
[11:26] and we'll cover the eventualities
[11:27] so that you're speaking of.
[11:28] There's a generic water depreciation,
[11:30] which the town collects,
[11:31] which is for all other sort of eventualities,
[11:33] sort of like what you're alluding to.
[11:35] So that would be cover off that cost,
[11:36] it would not be an additional cost.
[11:38] The whole idea behind the water utility
[11:39] is it is self-financing, once it is set up.
[11:42] So we're just asking for the initial cost
[11:45] to set it up from the municipality,
[11:47] so that would be the end on our portion
[11:49] of what would be required.
[11:50] So the capital costs.
[11:52] Thank you.
[11:52] Okay.
[11:53] Thank you.
[11:54] Definitely.
[11:55] And that's kind of the question I had to show that the first two years of operations you've
[11:59] got $4,800.
[12:01] After those two years, if something goes wrong, you're expecting that the monies that come
[12:06] in from the collection of the sale of water basically cover any kind of operation maintenance
[12:14] that's needed.
[12:15] Exactly.
[12:16] The $8.32 part of that will go to actually treating the water that gets pumped out of the
[12:19] but part of it will be for the maintenance of the station itself.
[12:24] Okay, I'll come back to myself now and Councillor Chan actually asked the question
[12:30] that I had regarding moving forward, knowing that we were going,
[12:35] if we were going to participate in the operations or the capital cost,
[12:40] what was the expectation for operations moving forward?
[12:45] So happy to hear your response on that.
[12:49] And so it's just less than an acre of property than that's required for this system.
[12:55] Yeah, let's correct.
[12:56] Okay.
[12:58] And let's see here.
[13:00] I think everything else has been taken care of.
[13:03] I do see the CAO has his hand up.
[13:05] And I believe that's for another additional question or comment.
[13:09] Yes, thank you very much, Warden.
[13:11] Mike, the bulk water station in Yarmouth,
[13:15] do they charge a minimum $50 for a fill-up?
[13:20] The Yarmouth went forward with their rate study
[13:23] and their minimum fee is now $5.
[13:25] It's $5.
[13:26] So is there any way with the MSRAB
[13:29] to have that fee reduced like from $50 to something less?
[13:33] Because that's like a heavy upfront fee.
[13:36] It absolutely is, the town needs to come forward
[13:38] with that sort of holistic plan of here's our water field overall. We're almost at that point.
[13:42] It's within the next two years by April 1st of 2029, the town must have updated its water study
[13:48] as because it's been 10 years since the last time we did it, that would be when we were bringing
[13:51] that forward. The two-year operations, that's the bridge us to that point where we could get in front
[13:56] of the UARB. So there is a potential to do because town of Yarmouth has done an in-term request so we
[14:02] could look into that, but there's no guarantee. And it's still a timely piece. I would worry that the
[14:07] would ask us to just roll it into our major study, our main study. Thank you Mike.
[14:14] Okay thank you
[14:15] Councillor Kuhl and then Councillor Schernd. I have a question but I don't know how to word it and
[14:21] I noticed there's the initial 20 or 62 thousand. Now eventually this will probably make money.
[14:32] Uh no it helps but part of the reason behind the UARB is to make sure that the town doesn't make
[14:37] money off of it. It's to make sure that it covers costs and nothing more. One of the interesting
[14:41] ones coming up from research and was looking at Town of Yarmouth as I understand it got a little
[14:45] bit of trouble because they were giving water to themselves. Only the water utility gets free water,
[14:49] nobody else does. Just a good idea. When the point of view is it, we invest into it when we get some
[14:56] another bit of all sorts of stuff, okay?
[15:00] Yes, exactly. Councilor Shand. I just so that I understand, frankly, meaning like one of those big, huge things that you feel for horses and like those sides of the public item is what we mean by bulk. Yes. So not usable for the average resident, whose well is just running dry, they could be someone who needs to have a virus. A large truck or there might be a hauling services as well. Companies may choose to fill up at the bulk, fill station and then haul it to people's wells as well. Yeah, I think.
[15:29] Um, like one of your statements in your staff report was exactly that about the potential
[15:34] for, I guess like a small business or something like that for someone locally to be able to,
[15:41] um, to provide that service. Absolutely. Okay. Any other questions or comments,
[15:47] Councillor Thoroughburn or via? It's obvious, I think, but, uh, each fill-up, each time that you
[15:52] present is a $50 charge.
[15:55] We'll read it now, yes.
[15:56] I'll look at the regulations.
[15:57] Great.
[15:57] Thanks.
[15:59] Okay.
[16:00] Any other questions or comments?
[16:03] A very interesting, I think, project for the municipality to consider.
[16:08] So, thank you very much for coming this evening and presenting and answering all the questions
[16:13] that we had for you.
[16:15] All right.
[16:16] We'll be back in touch.
[16:18] Enjoy the rest of your evening.
[16:21] Okay,
[16:24] we're going to move on now to six protective services,
[16:27] Remo bylaw, second reading.
[16:29] And I see Miss Bell has joined us. Welcome.
[16:33] Thank you very much, Warden.
[16:38] Can everyone hear me?
[16:39] Yes, we can.
[16:40] Okay, perfect. Thank you very much.
[16:43] So as my staff report was submitted there,
[16:48] This is the second reading of the by-law in the background. Of course, the revision suggested by the province
[16:56] recommendations for changes. This is the second and final reading so we can pass by-law E-300.
[17:04] Just a note, there were no changes to the budget and there were no submissions from the public
[17:10] regarding this by-law.
[17:14] Okay, thank you for that. There is a prepared motion if someone would like to
[17:18] to make that please, Councilor Richardson.
[17:21] Be it resolved, and Council of the Newspanality of the District of Svelven recommended,
[17:28] as recommended by Reno, give second and final reading to the revised by law, E300.
[17:36] Thank you.
[17:37] There's seconder, please.
[17:39] I'll second it.
[17:41] Okay, it's been moved and seconded.
[17:43] Any discussion on the motion?
[17:45] I think it's pretty straightforward.
[17:49] All those in favor of the motion, signify by saying aye.
[17:54] Those opposed?
[17:55] No.
[17:55] Motion is carried.
[17:56] Thank you very much for that.
[17:58] We'll move on now to operations.
[18:01] We have the Monthly Building Report for May, 2026.
[18:06] Again, always nice to see a new dwelling on the report and we're at just over $3 million
[18:12] dollars in total construction to date. Any questions or comments on the monthly building report?
[18:20] Hearing none, we will move on to administration 8A proposed Sandy Point Wilderness area
[18:26] discussion and that's our CAO.
[18:31] Thank you very much, Warden. The province of recently put out
[18:38] a directive or not a directive, a list of 13 proposed wilderness areas around the province.
[18:46] One of those proposed wilderness areas is the Sandy Point wilderness area, which I think
[18:52] is something like 800 and some odd acres and they've given, I think, until July 25th for
[19:00] feedback from interested parties. One of the things I wanted to get from council was some feedback
[19:11] from council as to whether or not we want to provide feedback and if we want to provide
[19:15] feedback, what would the nature of that feedback be? One of the issues I see with the proposal
[19:26] isn't the actual wilderness area itself. I don't see any complications in that proposed wilderness
[19:34] area. But what I, what I did take exception to was that as a municipal government, we weren't
[19:40] consulted by Department of Natural Resources ahead of time sort of saying, listen, we're thinking
[19:45] about doing this, you know, how does it impact your, you know, your municipal land strategy,
[19:50] that type of thing. And so the consultation part of it is something that I would like
[19:59] counsel maybe to talk about and whether or not that's something we want to provide feedback on.
[20:06] Thank you for that. I did notice it as a Facebook post as well and I'm not sure if I
[20:12] felt that there was a lot of information there to kind of guide us in this. So we do have
[20:19] Councillor Thorben Irvine, and then Councillor Sharon, please.
[20:22] Thank you.
[20:23] I did note that the morning of the 28th, simply because I was posting something to my
[20:30] Councillor Facebook page, and then you could see other political, there's other things
[20:35] on that Facebook platform, I suppose.
[20:39] So it was in the early morning of the 28th, but I noted it, and it's up until July the 28th
[20:47] is 880 hectares and I did ask the Department of Environment because you know people were having
[20:56] questions. I basically I even had an individual direct me to be responding as a counselor and so
[21:06] what I did say there there may be people that have noted that respectfully that is not my assignment
[21:12] as a councillor, that we encourage all citizens to participate in
[21:18] under voice, and so that's where I left that, but because I did
[21:23] inquire with the Department of Nethical Resources, they told me that it was
[21:27] the Department of the Environment, so I think going forward as a municipal
[21:31] government, if there's any interaction, they'll likely be through the Department of
[21:35] the Environment that you'll want to go, and so there are citizens in the
[21:39] municipality in our district, I suppose, in Dayton, our Councilor Wagner's district as well.
[21:47] You know, they'll be engaged and they'll do their assessments and you know, give voice to it.
[21:54] I don't have much else to offer. Thank you for that. Yeah, when I saw the first thing I did was send
[22:01] it through to the CAO and I didn't reach out to natural resources or the Department of Environment,
[22:07] but kind of like, you know, what's our role here and like, what should we be doing with this?
[22:12] So, so glad that you were able to offer that to the residents as well.
[22:18] Councillor Schand and then Councillor Richardson.
[22:20] My question is a little more exactly what does it mean? So is this designated land that cannot be
[22:27] used for anything because it's being held as a wilderness wildlife area so it's owned currently by
[22:34] the government and is deemed this and can't be thought sold used for anything else at that.
[22:41] So certainly, certainly feel free to check, but I did ask that as well. What level of protection
[22:47] was the government, the provincial government looking to? And they told me it would be similar to,
[22:54] it's the least, it's the least of a footprint. It's very similar to the tobyatic. So there would be
[23:01] people that could fish hunt, be on existing routes and they did make a point of telling
[23:11] me as well that the thing that I think we should all be concerned about is that people
[23:16] aren't ATVing through the peak bugs because the peak bugs are a carbon sink and so the
[23:22] gentleman that I was speaking to said it doesn't matter if it's in a protected area or not
[23:28] that's actually against the law. So, so the level of protection that the province is looking at
[23:34] currently is the least footprint similar to the Tobiatic. And I think the premise for the province
[23:42] of Nova Scotia is 20% of their land mass. I think that's out there somewhere in that regard, yeah.
[23:49] Okay, thank you for that. Councillor Richardson?
[23:54] I have all kinds of questions to concern, but probably it for me, but if I remember correctly,
[24:03] it's surrounded by a population that is housing, mixed resource and whatever, people are
[24:13] now permanently using a fair amount of it, period. And what brings comes to my
[24:22] mind when you talk about wilderness is wilderness. Wilderness doesn't come with
[24:27] the population of people.
[24:32] So at the other one of the other problems I have with it
[24:37] is it dealing with some of the nature reserves and how they creep.
[24:44] It seems like you go in with one agenda and it shifts over time.
[24:52] But I really have major questions about that area that takes that, you might as well say
[24:59] a fair gist of the peninsula in, and there's a population surrounding it.
[25:04] And as far as when it comes to animals, there's probably populations of deer, rabbits,
[25:11] and so on, but not anything I don't think that is probably the ordinary that would
[25:17] warrant anything over and above some area.
[25:22] And to my mind, I would rather see something in remote that you already have a limited human
[25:28] footprint in preventing getting worse, not where you already have
[25:34] human footprints in there all the time, and you're going to try and limit them. That never
[25:40] goes well in these closed areas. And I can speak to that from experience.
[25:46] Thank you for that. And I know the CEO has a question or perhaps comments on that. And I'll
[25:52] just add one other. I don't recall seeing presentations in the area on this. Maybe I've
[26:02] missed it, but I'm not sure, but I'm thinking with something like that that the province
[26:06] should be holding some sort of consultation, presentation, something for the community.
[26:14] At CAO, did you want to comment on that or perhaps something else?
[26:18] Yeah, thank you, Warden.
[26:20] Yeah, you're right.
[26:21] I'm not aware of any public consultation that was done with regard to this proposed site.
[26:26] The other thing which I think is probably worth noting at this council is that of the
[26:32] And the total acreage for the 13 sites around the province that are being proposed.
[26:39] Sandy Point is by far the largest.
[26:41] I think the total acreage of all 13 sites, I think something like 1,900 acres or something
[26:45] like that.
[26:47] This is 880 acres.
[26:48] The next biggest one is one near Halifax, so hectares you're right, is I think 550 and then
[26:55] the rest are like in the 50s, hundreds, that type of thing.
[26:57] So it's and then and then I once the ward and I started talking about this I went and went on the government websites and then started to do some estimations of
[27:10] exactly how much land do we have in our municipality that is dedicated to the various designations of protected land wilderness areas, one of them and then there's about three or four other
[27:23] designations. But my calculations, and I need to do some double checking on that, we
[27:30] have something like 51% of the land within our municipality has some form of environmental
[27:37] protection placed upon it, which is far greater than the provincial goal of 20%. So one of
[27:47] the considerations for council, maybe to talk about right now, is whether or not that
[27:51] That is a point that we want to bring up with the province and why is it that they've put
[28:00] such a large emphasis of the designations in the 13 zones on children, and given the
[28:10] fact that we've already got such a large designation within our municipality already.
[28:15] Yeah, thank you very much for that, C.A.
[28:17] And I'm wondering at this point, before we get into all of that, whether we should be
[28:23] writing the province and asking for them to do, to hold at least one public meeting consultation
[28:31] in Sandy Point, and so that the residents at least are aware of what this actually means in us as well,
[28:37] before we provide comments or write anything without knowing exactly what it means, I guess.
[28:45] I have Councillor Thoroughb and Irvine.
[28:48] Oh, sorry.
[28:48] I had Deputy Warden first and then Councillor Thoroughb and Irvine.
[28:51] I just have a comment about the feedback part of it.
[28:55] We should be directed in our residents to send their feedback to whichever party is whether
[29:00] it's environment or it's in and out.
[29:02] I don't feel we should be taking the feedback from the residents.
[29:05] We need to direct them directly to them.
[29:08] Yeah, absolutely.
[29:09] And I think that's what's taking place right now.
[29:10] Exactly.
[29:11] 100%.
[29:12] And I have done that very things just so you know, Councilor Wagner, absolutely 100%.
[29:19] It is an opportunity for people to lend their voices to a process.
[29:22] Having said that, I think we do ourselves a dispeaper without asking the province for exactly
[29:28] what you said, you know, to have all the information because people, there's going to be a variety
[29:34] of emotions and we want the facts in order for people to be making a decision.
[29:39] And I would just, I feel I would be remiss because I know partially there will be people that will be profoundly feeling like it's a protection of water and water source as it relates to the peninsula and we know we've got, you know, a Savannah out there.
[29:57] So it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's
[30:00] It's some kind of protection, I feel, in terms of drought on that peninsula having that there. So I think the province, I would strongly be in favor. I think we, it's an advocacy issue that we ask the province for more information. And then it's up to everybody to show up for it or not. And I just would also like to add Councillor Richardson, what you said around the natural resources. When we're all taxed,
[30:29] Because I know I'm there, we are taxed on, there's a resource sector that's part of our
[30:36] tax.
[30:38] I don't know if that taps into what you're saying.
[30:42] I don't know how that impacts.
[30:44] So ultimately to have more information from the province, we don't ask to be treated differently
[30:49] from the other 12 sites, but it is a large area and I think our citizens would appreciate
[30:55] the opportunity to tap into additional information.
[31:00] So if we have consensus to ask a public consultation meeting session in the community,
[31:10] so that the community and the municipality as a whole can learn more before responding.
[31:17] Yeah, it isn't for us to take the lead. It's for us to advocate for something like this is what I would suggest.
[31:24] and census to do that? Okay, wonderful. Councillor Richardson?
[31:28] Just a parting, you know, and why? If that is the reason to protect a watershed or whatever,
[31:38] then if that state, if that's a whole different ballgame, but what they have put out that it's wildly
[31:44] reserved, what comes to mind is just what I know personally, there's a large tract of land from
[31:51] the nature trust in Ohio, there's one in Little Harvard, there's one in Johnson's
[31:57] Fawn, there's one in West Hitt, and they are not small tracks of land, we're
[32:02] talking 100 plus acres most every one of those, and the other fact that I
[32:08] have a problem with is they seem to be cropping up and not just nature
[32:14] trust but these wilderness areas or whatever, with no overall plan. If you're
[32:20] going into a section, you shouldn't target Shelburne County necessarily or
[32:26] Yarmouth County, but if there was a provincial plan, then I would like to see it
[32:31] and I'd like to understand that because I don't think Elder Skelter, they're
[32:35] doing anybody any favors. I think those are all excellent points. Thank you,
[32:41] Councillor Richardson, Councillor Sutherland. We already have one of the largest
[32:47] in the scope of that.
[32:49] And that's how we can.
[32:51] Yeah, and that's very exponentially from the time.
[32:54] The place of where they said they were going to start.
[32:56] Yeah.
[32:58] Okay, so we know we have an action plan.
[33:02] I guess moving forward that we will ask the province to host.
[33:06] A public consultation meeting regarding this matter.
[33:11] With the, with the residents or with the in the municipality in that area.
[33:16] Okay. Thank you for that. We'll move on now to 8B and this is an item for Councillor Richardson
[33:24] regarding trails. The Roseway River Trail in the Jordan Trail. I had individuals inquire
[33:32] as to the Roseway River that are L.O.A. Be adjusted to be multi-use trail and whether that has taken place
[33:43] in the process? Okay, I don't know, CAO, if you can answer that, but my understanding is we were
[33:50] waiting for the province to make a decision on an apportion moving forward in that area as well,
[33:56] I believe. Yeah, that's correct. So Adam isn't here, so but yeah, we were waiting to find out what
[34:04] the status was of the other sections of the trail, but there are options when I'm thinking
[34:14] about the Roseway River Trail in terms of whether or not you keep it just for walking
[34:21] or whether or not it's multi-use.
[34:22] That really is a decision for councilors to whether or not you want to do that, but I believe
[34:27] that Adam also had some ideas in terms of the fact that there are other alternatives in
[34:35] terms of the vehicles using actually the road rather than the trail. But I think Councillor
[34:43] if you don't mind because Adam isn't here, let me go back to Adam and ask him to put together
[34:50] an email to Council for a more comprehensive view on the different options that are available to
[34:56] Council. I believe that he did give a presentation on it before, but I just can't remember the details
[35:03] of that presentation at the present time. Maybe what I can do is pull out that presentation
[35:08] from before and forwarded to Council. Thank you very much for that CEO. He did do a comprehensive
[35:16] staff report to Council. I think it was last fall. I'm not sure. And he did provide different
[35:25] options regarding the trail and I believe it was at that time that he mentioned about and I believe
[35:31] that council at the time had said that we were going to wait to see what the decision of the
[35:35] province was before we decided which option we wanted to go with.
[35:42] Okay, and then the other is the
[35:43] trail. Well, ideally a good update on that. The concern was otherwise that they're on the road.
[35:51] It's illegal without going to the province and getting an allocation for that.
[35:55] So, it's a matter of making it legal one way or another, but anyhow, I would be in favor of opening up it.
[36:05] That being said, the other question was the design of our bridge that we okayed for Jordan.
[36:12] My understanding is we okayed that architecture design.
[36:18] have they had made the ATV clubs making inquiries as to was there a pull-off on that bridge?
[36:26] And to my knowledge, there was none.
[36:30] Yeah, I think we made that motion a couple of months ago about moving ahead.
[36:34] And I believe you're right, Councillor Richardson. I don't believe there was any discussion at all about a pull-off.
[36:40] CAO, do you want to comment on that as well?
[36:45] Councilor Richardson, are you talking about a pull-off on the actual bridge itself?
[36:49] When you say pull-off, like, yes, if you've got oncoming traffic, there's an area that they can pull
[36:53] aside so they can pass each other? Yes. No, it's not on the actual bridge itself, but I imagine because
[37:00] people will be able to see each other approaching the bridge in either end, that someone could stop and
[37:05] let the other person who's oncoming go across the bridge before they go across, because it is within
[37:12] an eyesight. Yeah, and I, if I'm not mistaken, that was never put forward or talked about.
[37:18] So I thought we had passed the design of that. So thank you. Yeah, now that it's, the contract
[37:24] has actually been signed. The kickoff meeting is actually going to be this week.
[37:30] So, Council
[37:31] will be getting an email from Adam with regard to the scheduling of the construction going forward
[37:39] And there will also be public communications with regard to residents so that residents are well aware of what's happening and the timing of the construction.
[37:50] Excellent. Thank you for that. Thank you, Councillor Richardson, Deputy Warden.
[37:55] In CIO, can we just make sure to relate to Adam that the email go to the association as well. I know they're residents, but if the ATV association has that information as well, that would be great.
[38:08] because I was approached as well from one of the members.
[38:11] With regard to the bridge?
[38:13] Yes.
[38:14] Yeah, absolutely.
[38:15] That will be forwarded to that for sure.
[38:17] Thank you.
[38:19] Okay.
[38:20] Thank you for that.
[38:21] Moving on to nine committee reports and warden update.
[38:25] Do we have any committee reports to report on this evening?
[38:29] Yes.
[38:29] Councilor Thorbener-Vine.
[38:31] Thank you.
[38:31] If I could just go back to me the 27th of the day I couldn't attend council meeting.
[38:36] I did attend the day-long Western County Crownland.
[38:41] It used to be called stakeholder group and it was very interesting at the beginning
[38:47] of that.
[38:48] It was an excellent day trip out into Crownland where there's been sections of land
[38:54] blogged and Westphore being one of the stakeholders.
[39:00] There is research with bringing in seed migration from other countries that are more drought-tolerant,
[39:07] creating plots of land and seeing how that's going to fit as we continue to create forests
[39:13] that are more resilient, given droughts and potential threat to wildfires.
[39:17] It was an excellent day.
[39:21] So I would just add that we're going to want to change that group name because David Sposter,
[39:27] who I think he's part of the Strong Consulting Group, he had said he's decided to change the name
[39:32] of the group to the Western County Crown Land Interaction Group and he made the point
[39:38] and it was this discussion around nuance of language that our First Nations people or
[39:44] Indigenous maybe is the term, to the better term to use, they are not stakeholders, they are
[39:51] right holders. And so anyways that was very good, we went on the field, it was just excellent
[39:57] And I do have a couple of YouTube video,
[40:00] no, I shouldn't say YouTube, I'm gonna post them to YouTube.
[40:03] It's just excellent from the medway forestry group
[40:07] and what they're doing on the hemlock woolly adalgent,
[40:12] which threatens all our hemlock and the hemlock
[40:14] is a really important species, again, with drought tolerance.
[40:19] So that was that day.
[40:22] And then I actually dumped into anaphylaxis
[40:25] because I was a hot and exhausted and I didn't have my
[40:29] epiphan and I had better drill that I had to go get and so I was
[40:32] whacked. That's why I didn't attend council. Okay. Yeah, yeah. So June
[40:38] the 4th we had an audit risk and finance committee meeting
[40:42] through for the Western County Regional Library Board. That was
[40:46] very good and just, you know, those audit and risk committees
[40:52] is doing what they need to do.
[40:54] And then yesterday, we had an end July the 9th.
[40:58] We had our Eastern Shelton County equity
[41:02] and anti-racism advisory committee
[41:05] with Adam leading that as staff and then Jesse Dyer
[41:09] from the town.
[41:10] And we had some excellent public members
[41:13] that have stepped forward, and people
[41:15] are going to be thoughtful around who will chair
[41:18] and vice chair that similar to the economic growth
[41:22] committee, so people are quite enthused about the voice that they'll be able to lend to process to government process on that subject matter.
[41:33] Yeah.
[41:34] I think even the very good we had in the Muggle Nation meeting here at our council chambers, which I felt went very well personally. I'll put on a very good presentation.
[41:47] Um, those of council that wasn't here, you can catch it on, it was recorded. So you should actually listen to that. He did put on a very good presentation on June the 4th.
[42:00] Rosemary Manor, which we discussed the ongoing strike and was pleased to hear over the weekend that we had the tentative deal.
[42:07] Um, a little laugh for everybody. I was at all three areas for the meat and that night I came here. It wasn't here.
[42:18] We didn't have time to do that, but we're pleased to hear that there is a tentative deal on the table right now, and it will be great for the residents because they're the ones in the end that need that support and help.
[42:32] And we're glad that you showed up in the office.
[42:34] for it. Councilor Shandt. I'm kind of my first climate action committee meeting. They are
[42:41] starting their in-person sessions across the county to start the process of influencing
[42:46] community events to gather and community members input on emerging and climate change,
[42:51] so they're starting those. I think the 15th actually is the first one that they're doing.
[42:56] Kind of the Shelburne County Arena meeting, which this is one of the first year, they are not
[43:00] in a deficit, they actually earned a profit this year.
[43:03] Excellent.
[43:04] They budgeted $500 for what ice time would have been.
[43:07] That's what last year was.
[43:08] This year, they were $14,000 for the ice time right there.
[43:12] So the current management of the arena
[43:14] is doing an amazing job in getting those rentals out there.
[43:18] And a big thank you to all the volunteers
[43:19] that are working the canteen and the bingos.
[43:23] They are making all the difference
[43:25] in keeping that place afloat.
[43:27] Also attended the Rosemary Manor 4,
[43:29] which I showed up on time. Which was also my first and was really good to see what that's all
[43:37] about and it's very excited for the tent of agreement. Hopefully that goes through. I also
[43:41] saw the regular committed meetings attended the Understanding Human Rights webinar that was offered
[43:48] by the NSMF bed last week. Which was very interesting and last week then Penny and I both attended
[43:55] that the Pride Walk, which had a really great attendance, as well as the Black Loyalist
[44:01] Seafarers Exhibit Opening, which was really very well done as well.
[44:07] Thank you for that. A number of the items or meetings that I was going to mention has already been
[44:14] mentioned by Councillor Shannon Deputy Warden. Councillor Richardson.
[44:19] Not directly one of our committees just to update on our community garden and food share.
[44:26] The greenhouse has been coming well.
[44:31] We have purchased a building and an auxiliary building to house refrigeration.
[44:38] We've already started harvesting.
[44:40] We had the first sale this last Sunday at the market downtown.
[44:47] and we had 30 bags of lettuce that were available and actually we've gone over 60
[44:54] bags of lettuce and harvested so far. So there's a lot of plants coming on
[45:00] If anybody has any free money in their accounts, letters out there looking at the donations. So, thank you. And I believe that the Welcome Neighbors event on the 30th, I think there were 23 bags of lettuce there to give away. So,
[45:30] the cherry tomatoes and we've got the peas growing and carrots and cucumber and peppers.
[45:39] Yeah, it's fabulous. It's really great. So as I said a number of the items or events and meetings
[45:48] I was going to mention have already been mentioned but on May 30th that was a very busy day for everyone.
[45:57] I think there were like a half a dozen events happening, so Councillor Schand has already
[46:05] mentioned about the Pride Walk that we attended together that morning at our house.
[46:11] And I gave remarks on behalf of the municipality.
[46:14] And then at one o'clock at the Black Loyalist Heritage Center was the African Nova Scotian
[46:22] and I stayed until 145 and thankfully Councillor Schand was able to stay the whole time and she gave my remarks on behalf of the municipality, so thank you very much for that, Councillor.
[46:35] And I headed to Shelton Regional High School to MC the Welcome Neighbors event that was happening at 2.
[46:41] So, very busy day for sure, but, again, and I think I mentioned this at the last council meeting all extremely important events in their own way and their own for their own reasons.
[46:56] So, yeah, and I think there may have been a one or two suffers happening afternoon or that evening as well.
[47:03] Well, June 1st was the community Nova Scotia Health and group meeting and the NSH update
[47:13] has been posted.
[47:14] I believe on both our Facebook and website.
[47:18] June 3rd, again, Deputy Warden mentioned that the amalgamation steering committee meeting
[47:24] and Chris McNeil, I agreed, did a really great presentation.
[47:29] I think everyone who was there and participated really got something out of the discussion and he also left with us and he went through with us the 17 lessons from four plus amalgamations and dissolution so I believe Nicole may have a copy of this.
[47:56] So if anyone is interested in that, it may already be on our website. I'm not sure, but really interesting
[48:04] information in this.
[48:08] Sorry. Okay. Um, yeah. So, yes. Yes. Thank you. Excuse me, Deputy Warden.
[48:17] We are going to hold the next amalgamation steering meeting on, I believe it's the second.
[48:24] And is it the second Tuesday of the month?
[48:30] I believe it's July 7th in the Lockport.
[48:34] Excuse me, there were residents in that area who had requested that I believe.
[48:38] And I think that's a great opportunity to be present there.
[48:42] And hopefully there will be lots of residents who come out for that meeting.
[48:49] Yes, that's 6 o'clock.
[48:50] and I don't know that the venue has been decided yet, so yeah. So there'll be a
[48:58] post on that. Again, Councillor Schand and Deputy Warden has already mentioned
[49:04] the Rosway Manor Board Meeting in Lockport on June 4th and I echo the I guess
[49:12] the relief and happiness to know that there is a tentative agreement. I don't know
[49:17] that we've heard anything else since the last weekend on this.
[49:22] And this evening, the Shelburne Area Chamber of Commerce is hosting, or sorry, holding
[49:27] its AGM and they have a special guest speaker there.
[49:30] And I believe he's speaking about community partners and creating new revenue, generating
[49:37] and sustainable local experiences I believe is what I read for travelers.
[49:44] So really the experiential tourism, I believe, is really what it's all about.
[49:49] I'm not sure if there was a member of our staff who was planning to attend that, but I'm sure it will be well attended.
[49:59] Okay. We can now, let's see here, it is 6.50 p.m. If we can have a motion, please, to go in camera at this time.
[50:11] Thank you very much. It's been moved and seconded. All those in favor of the motion signify by saying aye.
[50:19] Aye.
[50:20] Those supposed no motion is carried.
[50:23] Okay, if we can have a motion to go out of in camera at 720 please.
[50:30] I'll make that motion.
[50:31] Thank you.
[50:32] Thank you. It's been moved and seconded. All those in favor of the motion signify by saying aye.
[50:38] Hi, those supposed no motion is carried and it's 7.21 p.m. and we will adjourn our meeting for the evening. Thank you, everyone.