1 00:00:02,679 --> 00:00:09,240 uh it's recording I'm not promising that it's live okay the is 2 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:24,880 on okay it's 601 we'll call this bar meeting 3 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:30,560 order and roll call everybody's here Jeremy Heath Tim Sean and Carol yeah 4 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:35,120 that's great so uh I didn't agree to have anybody 5 00:00:41,039 --> 00:00:51,600 comment we'll go first okay um last meeting we had a lot of discussion about 6 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:56,480 um Investments of the the money off the sale of the 7 00:00:52,840 --> 00:01:02,440 farm we have how many ACR is it total two it's it's like 197.4 8 00:01:00,039 --> 00:01:06,439 close to 200 some of them been calling it two and it's okay let's call it two 9 00:01:05,199 --> 00:01:14,880 let's say we get this money from the sale of a 10 00:01:10,960 --> 00:01:17,880 farm and uh we're going to invest it what kind of investment numbers are we 11 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:22,640 talking over the last let's say a couple years what's like what's a what's a 12 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:30,240 common number right now do you know anybody C easier make than 6 and a half% 13 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:36,360 I think okay they are yeah I'd like to see one six month 14 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:40,680 ones I've seen are like 5.4 and that might be un likee we were 15 00:01:39,079 --> 00:01:46,759 discussing at church I think and they were six and a half or seven six seven 16 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:55,520 months 54 I was just that all the banks up here yesterday 5.4 okay so let's say 17 00:01:49,759 --> 00:01:59,560 it's an even 5% for fairness um I mean yeah I guess that sounds like a good 18 00:01:57,159 --> 00:02:02,560 number compared to the 01 we were getting a few years ago I mean there was 19 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:08,200 nothing and of course savings doesn't draw nothing um but when you look into 20 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:12,400 the way that our monies are being invested I just happen to have a whole 21 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:23,519 stack of statements so we've got a 22 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:23,519 1.1 0 1 1.0 23 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:30,360 1.12 um and these are two different banks 0. five. five let me just put in 24 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:36,480 the middle here 1.01 another 1.01 here's a 1.12 again 25 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:43,920 1.01 1% um lots of 26 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:49,840 ones5 1.26 there's a biggy so we've got millions of dollars and I think it would 27 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:52,800 be fair to say that byy and far based on those just you know going through there 28 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:56,200 you can look through them if you want but they're mine um the we're talking 29 00:02:55,319 --> 00:03:02,120 about 1% okay we're not talking about 15% 30 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:06,000 when you pull a crop off that farm and you put it in the bank and you can 31 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:13,560 invest in it let's say 5% put in C for 5% um every year you know you can add to 32 00:03:09,799 --> 00:03:18,720 your dollar amount make more money but the current state of our investment 33 00:03:15,519 --> 00:03:22,040 policies is not to make money apparently because all of our accounts could go 34 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:27,239 through the Illinois first program I think the last I knew was 5 25 something 35 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:34,879 like that so we're already missing out on 4% there so if you take the 4% let's 36 00:03:30,879 --> 00:03:38,879 say just let's say an average of 4% on I don't know how many millions in the 37 00:03:36,959 --> 00:03:44,000 budget right now I I can't tell it's Millions it's more than more than enough 38 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:48,599 to pay our bills a couple years over um and then we've got tax money coming in 39 00:03:45,959 --> 00:03:53,920 that's a lot of money when you miss 4% on that kind of dollars you know if you 40 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:58,000 got 50,000 you miss 4% not a big amount but you start putting a million behind 41 00:03:55,519 --> 00:04:02,200 it you got a lot of money so you take that you take um 42 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,840 you know everybody's talking about liability I don't know how the rest of 43 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:09,599 y'all I think some of you guys know about cash rent and know about what kind 44 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:16,120 of liability there is if you own a piece of ground Jeremy you should know I know 45 00:04:11,799 --> 00:04:21,959 he knows um there is no liability there no it's 200 Acres times whatever the bid 46 00:04:19,479 --> 00:04:26,400 was and you put the money in the bank it's done there's no liability if 47 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:30,000 everything dries up and goes to crap that's just the risk the farmer takes 48 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:33,960 it's not the risk on the count count is risk of a farmer so that liability issue 49 00:04:32,280 --> 00:04:38,880 is gone with cash R and that's what I advocate for because we all can't seem 50 00:04:35,919 --> 00:04:42,160 to get along to negotiate anything else we kind of we've kind of made our local 51 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,680 vendors angry because we don't want to pay our bills that's our fault we have 52 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:49,320 to correct that but when you start talking about this man account this 53 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:53,199 isn't all of them and that kind of dollar amount and then our Treasurer 54 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:59,960 said over here a couple meetings ago and said um well but we don't really need 55 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:09,360 40,000 I got news this is a community what 25 26,000 people you take that 56 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:15,240 40,000 all the interest lost on this all that interest adds up and I doubt very 57 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:19,319 much that anytime soon any of you or anyone on the board that has Farm ground 58 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:22,520 or has Stander at Farm ground a lot of us have Farm ground in our family I 59 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:29,000 doubt anyone of you is going to put a sales sign in the front of your field 60 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:31,400 so uh this notion of it not being you know not having a public purpose and all 61 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:36,840 that nonsense I haven't seen anybody with 62 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:40,680 actual the actual sorry but the actual balls to go to the state and say look 63 00:05:39,199 --> 00:05:45,680 here's the deal I want to sit down with somebody I want to R this get this done 64 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:50,600 once and for all what you know is has there been a determination that it's 65 00:05:47,199 --> 00:05:55,840 unlawful there hasn't and the next thing we could do is if we're concerned about 66 00:05:52,759 --> 00:06:01,280 that being an issue I mean we've had a rescue squad issu solved recently um 67 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:07,280 using our legisl later so why not propose an amendment that you know it's 68 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:12,080 been determined that the purpose of the um income off the farm is to supplement 69 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:15,639 the the running of our government and then we're done but nobody wants to do 70 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:19,080 that they want to sit and tear little piece of paper in a strips and say why 71 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:23,759 they want to sell it um I've had constituents I'm not currently a board 72 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:26,680 member but I will be I've had more than I can count call me and say what is the 73 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:32,240 end game this has been going on since 21 74 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:38,039 this is just a fleeting thought and my way of thinking if you're here to sell 75 00:06:34,479 --> 00:06:41,319 our farm you probably need to you probably need to resign because people 76 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:45,240 are not going to put up with it and that goes for all y'all I'm not looking at 77 00:06:43,840 --> 00:06:49,160 Carol because I know where her heart is I think I know what Tim feels about it 78 00:06:47,759 --> 00:06:52,800 and Heath and I have talked about it jeremi have had words Sean I'm sorry I 79 00:06:50,919 --> 00:06:56,440 don't know you very well you you come to meetings we appreciate you being here I 80 00:06:54,479 --> 00:06:59,800 hope you listen to each of us and ask us if you have questions but when it comes 81 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:03,960 right down to it if you're on our Farm committee you don't want to see our farm 82 00:07:01,639 --> 00:07:07,599 tended to as it has been you need to find a different committing or quit 83 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:12,960 because these people out here is a pretty good representation of what your 84 00:07:10,039 --> 00:07:17,840 constituents expect and my constituents are HED and these are people that farm 85 00:07:16,039 --> 00:07:21,840 and they know what the risks are they do it every year they do it every season 86 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,800 they take a risk every time but you know what they keep doing it and there's 87 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,400 going to be years they're not going to make a lot of money and then there's 88 00:07:25,759 --> 00:07:31,879 going to be years they do but the easiest way to get through this is to 89 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:35,919 start farming our ground put our money in the bank and when the state's 90 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:39,720 attorney or when the U attorney general if there would be a time that they would 91 00:07:37,199 --> 00:07:43,360 come at us and say Here's your letter it's not 92 00:07:40,879 --> 00:07:47,680 constitutional The Next Step handle that the way the law works is you go to your 93 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:53,159 legislator and you ask for how do we make it constitutional solve the problem 94 00:07:50,599 --> 00:07:57,360 we all somehow lose our our problem solving abilities I think we need to 95 00:07:55,520 --> 00:08:01,360 start thinking about how we solve problems we don't quit give up and sell 96 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:06,120 what the hell would our world be if we just quit every time said well somebody 97 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:10,400 told me I couldn't so I couldn't I mean you know it's it's time that we really 98 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:15,560 think about realistically what your constituents want and I know what mine 99 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:19,560 want they want they want this nonsense to be over I mean what are they going to 100 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:23,680 do there's been all these threats about what they would do here and there and 101 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:27,800 know they they file charges against us what they going to do send it to Vietnam 102 00:08:25,919 --> 00:08:33,320 you're County Board member you're supposed to do with the r rules that you 103 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:37,519 see your your job is not to determine if it's constitutional that is their job 104 00:08:35,479 --> 00:08:40,760 and if you need help with that there's numbers you can call there's people you 105 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:44,000 can sit down with and I'm sure that there would be a couple people even that 106 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,000 are non- board members that would go with you to ask some questions that 107 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:50,200 would be important so I think we need to try a 108 00:08:48,839 --> 00:08:55,600 little bit harder to find a solution because boy if you give up in life that 109 00:08:52,040 --> 00:09:02,399 easy that's that's really a problem any other public body comment 110 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:07,040 as Farm chair are you able to put on the agenda to resend the sale of the County 111 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:10,800 Farm for the next board meeting I don't know I don't know the 112 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:15,399 answer to that question and my question is is anybody 113 00:09:13,839 --> 00:09:19,000 that voted to sell the farm would you consider resending the sale Mr 114 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:29,000 Marks I'd like I wanted to table it so I could get some M from my new State's 115 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:34,160 Attorney and do some more research and it didn't go twice so well it's already 116 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:39,440 recent I mean it's already been voted to sell so it would need to be enable to do 117 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:44,360 that we would need to resend the vote so would you be a willing to vote to resend 118 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:50,800 the sale of the farm if that was on the agenda I cannot com I cannot commit to 119 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:56,279 that at this time but you you you're saying that you want better legal advice 120 00:09:54,279 --> 00:10:01,240 or different legal advice our new States Attorney advice I wanted to postpone so 121 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:06,440 the new State's Attorney could provide her legal advice I always like to have 122 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:11,519 as much legal advice as you can get I I understand thank you for your for your 123 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:17,839 maybe I can find out I don't I don't know the rules on that 124 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:22,240 sorry but I mean I my uh so my my purpose of asking that question is I 125 00:10:19,560 --> 00:10:26,920 remember a meeting oh I believe it was a couple years ago maybe three uh where 126 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:31,800 decision was made on EMA and then I believe you were sended the vote uh I 127 00:10:29,519 --> 00:10:36,440 can't quite remember what that was over but I think it had something to 128 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:41,639 do with um Ambulance Service of some sort and I 129 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:48,360 believe a boat was resented anybody remember that I do I remember yep so 130 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:53,079 that is a possibility and I think Carol as Farm chair you could put that on the 131 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:57,200 agenda and I'd like to see it there and so like Christine said the people that 132 00:10:55,560 --> 00:11:00,519 live in her districts which is the same district as Mr Williams don't want to 133 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:05,680 see our farm sold and I would I would like to see 134 00:11:02,839 --> 00:11:10,880 Bruce send the sale of the farm on the next agenda you have a new State's 135 00:11:08,680 --> 00:11:13,760 Attorney and you would have time to get legal advice on what her opinion is if 136 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:18,639 it's constitutional uh and and her view on 137 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:23,839 public purpose and so if you could get I I'm 138 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:30,320 requesting and I know she's busy because she just came into off came into office 139 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:35,959 but I would hope that maybe she could give a few words on 140 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:41,079 what her position is on Farming and then put that back on the 141 00:11:38,959 --> 00:11:46,920 well put it back on the agenda and see what the advice is and then let's see 142 00:11:43,560 --> 00:11:51,720 what happens because I think it's important 143 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:55,560 uh to to let the people have a an opportunity to think about the decision 144 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:58,279 they made I think some people went home after they made the decision were not 145 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:06,440 really comfortable with it when they found out the consti is were not uh 146 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:11,959 happy so just something to consider okay thank you I'll find 147 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,959 out any other public body 148 00:12:12,519 --> 00:12:22,199 comment I feel like Christine does it should be um 149 00:12:18,519 --> 00:12:29,320 farmed um once it's sold there will never be any other 150 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:32,360 income off of that land it'll be gone so I just think it should be 151 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:41,320 fed any other public body comments I have a 152 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:47,680 question I recently received my tax bill you did it 153 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:53,920 yes interesting I'm wanted a but anyway it's gone up 154 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:59,360 $400 is my tax bill gone up because there's no money coming in off this Farm 155 00:12:56,959 --> 00:13:03,800 why is my tax bill going up that much I have a townhouse I don't have a farm I 156 00:13:01,519 --> 00:13:10,120 don't even have a freestanding house that my tax bill went up 157 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:15,279 $400 that would be a question for Debbie dway in the assessor's office did you 158 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:18,279 see where I'm coming from her tax bill tells her where it went 159 00:13:18,639 --> 00:13:27,279 up the multiplier or it's usually this it's usually the school stuff driving it 160 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:31,120 up or this that kind of thing but the state mandates 161 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:40,320 yeah the state mandates that and the multiplier is that what you're I think 162 00:13:36,639 --> 00:13:40,320 that's is that right 163 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:50,920 anybody we as a county we voted on that 20 years 164 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:57,199 ago didn't we to go to be yeah and that's we don't have control over 165 00:13:54,800 --> 00:14:03,199 that so the budget you have for next year has nothing to do with our tax 166 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:10,480 we don't have a budget for next year yet I thought it was already agreed on 167 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:15,320 not not 2025 we don't do that till July I believe every Department then gives 168 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:19,600 their budget to um what's his 169 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:28,079 name BR budget committee will begin putting next year's budget together 170 00:14:26,279 --> 00:14:33,399 there's a long there's a guy that does it with us that calls us and tells us 171 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:37,959 bther yeah bellweather yeah Bruce Bruce bellweather he goes 172 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:41,920 over um the budget with all the committee people like they called me 173 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:47,639 last year about the farm budget you know how how I wanted what I wanted in it and 174 00:14:45,519 --> 00:14:52,199 just decided to have it the same as it was the year before it was kind of easy 175 00:14:49,959 --> 00:14:57,120 for me but you know other departments have a lot bigger budgets um Carol but 176 00:14:55,199 --> 00:15:00,959 bellweather yeah Teresa the last time I talked to bellweather he hadn't gotten 177 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:05,519 the letter from a return letter from the county requesting his services does 178 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:09,639 anybody know if they've even contacted him about 179 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:16,320 helping last time I talked to him he hadn't been contacted but the 25 budget 180 00:15:12,959 --> 00:15:21,759 will be worked on in July I believe and then the new year starts December 1st so 181 00:15:19,279 --> 00:15:30,160 what we're working on now goes through November 30th the 2024 budget use the 182 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:34,440 mic sorry people around here saying they can't 183 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:40,240 hear did you all hear me did that answer your question somewhat okay but I would 184 00:15:38,079 --> 00:15:44,880 suggest you talk to Debbie dway and the assessor's office and I think they can 185 00:15:42,959 --> 00:15:51,920 explain it or the board of 186 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:55,279 review they're back in session okay and I think they're there on Wednesday 187 00:15:53,680 --> 00:16:00,839 Thursday Friday they're not here every day they're not here every day Wednesday 188 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:07,000 Thursday Friday certain days only till noon and they're the I believe they're 189 00:16:03,639 --> 00:16:12,959 the ones I expected it to go up some what nothing STS to say in this economy 190 00:16:09,959 --> 00:16:18,839 but well a few months back we all got like a projected tax thing and I think 191 00:16:16,839 --> 00:16:22,720 everybody's went up and it was because of that multiplier and something else 192 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:30,920 I'm sorry I'm not a tax person 193 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,920 so any other public m 194 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:49,600 there is so we'll go to number four I know if you all have an agenda or not so 195 00:16:46,959 --> 00:16:55,279 number four is to discuss and V to send to the full Lord two foxes offered to 196 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:59,600 plant beings again um the county will have to P for the chemicals amounting to 197 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:07,640 about 23 468 and the insurance is $83 actually 198 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:12,280 the insurance is in with I sent you all that projection that he sent me the 199 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:16,000 chemicals and the brought Insurance together he came up with $ 200 00:17:14,039 --> 00:17:24,600 22,4 70 did you all get 201 00:17:19,679 --> 00:17:29,600 that um he has the SE beans donated we had noxious weeds at the farm 202 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:33,720 if we um if we plant beans it will take care of 203 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:39,799 the noxious weeds we won't be in trouble with the health department he has also 204 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:45,400 offered to mow the waterways the road the 205 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:51,240 cemetery the lane at no cost to the county which is quite a saving I mean 206 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:57,240 this is this is huge I think what he is offering just because 207 00:17:53,400 --> 00:18:01,440 he loves to farm and doesn't want to see doesn't want to see the farm 208 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:08,080 so I'm going to make a motion that we send this offer to the full 209 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:13,760 board do I have a second I'll 210 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:16,600 second can I make a comment second just a second we'll 211 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:34,360 talk sorry I have to write all this down that's all right tra 212 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:41,200 now now we comment discussion thank you m 213 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:48,720 um but do we not need that resolution to go to the board first to 214 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:54,679 farm the farm and then this could go we aren't hiring a farmer okay all right he 215 00:18:51,679 --> 00:19:00,400 isn't this isn't a private farmer that is making a profit from this this is 216 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:06,080 what I understand not making a profit he is donating his 217 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:09,970 time and his resources and what we're paying for are 218 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:16,000 basically the [Music] 219 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:23,120 inputs so my question is this if the if he plants this crop and the farm gets 220 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:28,480 sold he gets he gets the the harvest okay we would have to make 221 00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:33,080 a something in there that he plans it he would get the Harvest from that well he 222 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:37,600 would get it because he would sell it and give it to the 223 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:41,120 county okay okay just like he did last time we got 224 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:46,440 $174 for left two years ago when he did this so he would Harvest 225 00:19:43,799 --> 00:19:52,480 it have a check made out to the county so the county is not losing anything I I 226 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:58,799 was more worried about him being offended or upset because of something 227 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:04,280 in there so what what you mean well if if you know 228 00:20:02,679 --> 00:20:09,480 if he planted the crop and was taken care of it and then it sold and then oh 229 00:20:06,159 --> 00:20:14,440 and that person got the got the crop or whatever you know he had donated his 230 00:20:11,159 --> 00:20:20,760 time and and equipment and then but with you I think we put that in his provision 231 00:20:17,679 --> 00:20:26,679 that he gets that the county gets the proceeds 232 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:33,120 from yes so this is a this is a type of custom farm uh arangement 233 00:20:29,799 --> 00:20:35,600 then I guess last time gave us a dollar it was a 234 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:43,159 [Music] dollar um has has this has this been bit 235 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:48,200 out doesn't have to be bit out he's doing it for free do you know somebody 236 00:20:45,799 --> 00:20:54,320 else is going to do it for no what I what I what I do what I do 237 00:20:53,039 --> 00:21:00,039 understand is that it needs to be bit out the law says it needs to be bit out 238 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:04,000 it wasn't last time it wasn't last that doesn't make last time right it 239 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:10,200 still needs to be bit out think so not I mean he he's offering 240 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:15,120 he could go out there right now and pl those be he's offering to do this for 241 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:19,679 free it's a donation no money it's a Don but I believe the law requires it to be 242 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:23,360 bit out can you show me that law I don't have the statute right in front of me I 243 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:28,799 just it just occurred to me I believe just you might you might want to ask 244 00:21:26,039 --> 00:21:34,799 before we take anything to the board or anything here I might want to ask the 245 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,799 state attorney about that statute there 246 00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:43,720 too why wouldn't you be that it's a it's a free 247 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:48,880 donation it is it's a donation it's a free donation he is saving do you know 248 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:53,400 how much many he's saving us by [Music] 249 00:21:50,039 --> 00:21:59,880 mowing it's $500 every time K Compton moves out there and he mowed 250 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:02,600 twice the cemetery looks like H I'll call Bru and ask 251 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:12,120 her theary needs to be Tak care of we have two Civil War veterans that are 252 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:18,279 buried out there that we're just we don't pay any attention to these people 253 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:21,919 these 75 people that we know of that are buried there there at least 100 that are 254 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:27,880 buried than we're showing no respect whatsoever 255 00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:29,960 by letting that Cemetery but I was there the other day and and the weeds are past 256 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:36,919 my knees I can't even find Melinda fluky 257 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:43,480 Stone and I have a metal flag in there to show her her spone is and I can't 258 00:22:38,919 --> 00:22:49,320 find it to me that's so disrespectful Sue has offered to mow 259 00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:57,360 that Cemetery as many times as needed right now he could probably bail hay up 260 00:22:51,720 --> 00:23:02,360 there it's so it's so tall so um and you can't drive down Lane because the weeds 261 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:08,000 are taller than your knees it's you can't go down get a 262 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:15,279 car so I I I I believe this may still need to be bit out um but one I think 263 00:23:13,039 --> 00:23:22,279 she I think Miss mlock stepped out to call the state's attorney and that's 264 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:29,799 that's fine but I want to um I want to in encourage us to get uh to get 265 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:35,559 something in in writing and not taken off the cuff opinion that hasn't that we 266 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:41,320 know of been thoroughly researched um so you know taking an 267 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:47,559 offthe cup opinion winds up getting me in trouble sometimes 268 00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:51,559 because I I think if an opinion what's that what are you talking about an 269 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:59,320 opinion a written legal opinion on whether or not it needs to be bit out uh 270 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:02,720 so because if it does and we don't then then that's that's a violation of the 271 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:07,320 law canot be done and still added on next week's agenda Carol is it time for 272 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:13,640 you to do that actually next week is about the last week we can probably plan 273 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:21,760 meetings and he knows that and you know that this is this is a stall IDE you not 274 00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:28,960 want to farm you're a correct I do not want step off the F because we would 275 00:24:24,279 --> 00:24:28,960 rather spend 10 $220,000 276 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:37,960 you we would rather spend 10 to $20,000 to burn the 277 00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:43,240 weeds and and to disc we have to get rid of the weeds yes we are going to get 278 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:47,520 fine if we do not get rid of the weeds so we're going to spend money and get 279 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:53,159 nothing in return or we're going to spend money and 280 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:58,520 and be guaranteed about $100,000 with insurance we are 281 00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:05,080 guaranteed $100,000 the other the other concern that I had 282 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:09,679 was um the county will pay for chemicals and and insurance so those those are 283 00:25:07,919 --> 00:25:16,960 part of the inputs which are part of the investments in in operating a farm and 284 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:22,080 um any any any farmer will tell you there is some risk associated with 285 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:27,039 farming and any any investment into the input would be an 286 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:31,960 investment into a risk we have have no risk because if we 287 00:25:29,559 --> 00:25:36,320 buy insurance we're guaranteed in insurance insurance does 288 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:40,840 not mean you're not taking a risk Insurance everything's a risk Insurance 289 00:25:38,679 --> 00:25:46,440 actually acknowledges and admits that we are taking a risk and that risk would be 290 00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:51,240 taken with taxpayer money there is there is no permission 291 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:55,760 $74,000 there is no permission anywhere in statute that I'm aware of to invest 292 00:25:54,039 --> 00:26:01,600 taxpayer money in anything that bears any risk so you want to so you want to 293 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:06,320 $20,000 to kill the weeds and that's taxpayer that you don't 294 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:09,480 care it's that means nothing that would be that would be maintaining our 295 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:15,919 property which we have statutory authority to do and it's not a 296 00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:18,840 risk it's was money how do the how do the rest of you guys see this that are 297 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:23,000 sitting there quiet what do you guys think on this the uh the only kinds of 298 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:27,360 things that the public funds investment act permits investment in are things 299 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:31,240 like interest bearing accounts things that bear no risk to the principal oh 300 00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:37,679 there's risk in Shelby County there's a lot of risk like 4% worth the risk there 301 00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:40,600 so 4% minimum it's things like bonds and I've got it pulled up right here it's 302 00:26:39,039 --> 00:26:46,159 it's bonds it's going to be savings accounts it's going to be CDs things 303 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:50,080 that bear no risk to the principal but taking out insurance yes is a risk 304 00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:56,480 mitigation tool but it acknowledges and admits that 305 00:26:53,240 --> 00:27:01,960 we still take the risk it it it is it is proof that we are 306 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:06,440 taking a risk with taxpayer money and this is your legal 307 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,440 opinion no 308 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,480 actually yeah I 309 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:20,760 am I feel like it's a mistake to sell the farm 310 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:25,559 however at the last board meeting there was a vote 311 00:27:21,919 --> 00:27:30,559 taken and the majority voted to sell the farm I don't agree with it I think it's 312 00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:38,640 a mistake but that's what the vote was 12 313 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:45,440 to9 I believe 12 to S okay there were 19 people there 314 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:51,480 okay I but that doesn't mean we can't have a 315 00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:59,760 crop this year before it sells we don't know when it's going to 316 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:59,760 sell it could be next winter 317 00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:10,399 I mean right it hasn't been appraised it hasn't been surveyed you make a good 318 00:28:06,919 --> 00:28:12,880 point I I feel like the vote was taken to sell 319 00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:22,000 it you voted the for we did without legal 320 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:28,720 opinion I'm sorry I voted yeah yeah I voted yes yes I did yeah but we lost we 321 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:34,159 lost so do you feel like we shouldn't grow a 322 00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:40,559 crop while it's while we have all the weeds out 323 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:46,760 there get as much as we can and then when it setts it 324 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:52,679 yeah what would it hurt to have Ruth come and discuss the options and the 325 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:57,640 legalities of it I don't know if you I don't know if that matters Crystal we 326 00:28:55,320 --> 00:29:02,360 well not we but the board the board voted to sell the farm but without a but 327 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:06,600 without a current legal opinion do you think that's going to 328 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:10,440 change the vote I think it could Sean expressed concern that he'd like to 329 00:29:08,159 --> 00:29:13,760 speak with Ruth about it and I he didn't really elaborate on how he tried to do 330 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:17,240 it twice and it didn't happen but I would think Ruth would be approachable 331 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:20,440 for him to discuss it with her and to get some answers because I think 332 00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:23,880 everybody needs some answers because Jeremy's legal opinion is not a legal 333 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:27,799 opinion it's his opinion he's not each of you should be Ruth on your own but it 334 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:31,799 would be prudent I think for everyone to step and say well we got to stop this in 335 00:29:29,399 --> 00:29:35,720 his tracks this is a very Bal issue we need Ruth to come in and sit down and 336 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:40,360 let us answer some questions what we have on the agenda 337 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:46,399 right now is about St it isn't about selling the 338 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:52,559 farm can I say some I am on the board sure why is it such a hard thing to 339 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:58,080 think that you could have stew farming you can get some Revenue off of it and 340 00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:04,360 even if you sell it that money goes into into the general fund to help pay bills 341 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:09,000 how hard is that for people to understand I don't if any one of you had 342 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:16,679 that option with your own personal finances you would walk away from 343 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:18,919 it yes you would no I wouldn't oh God then why are you doing that with our 344 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:24,360 farm J because it is 345 00:30:21,159 --> 00:30:31,320 not Mr chairman if I if I may it is not the role of the government 346 00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:36,240 to be a proactive player in the private sector it is not the role of government 347 00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:39,919 to compete economically with its own 348 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,039 constituents legal 349 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:52,559 opinion it is if it were private ground as was just just said then a private 350 00:30:50,159 --> 00:30:56,760 citizen would not have this problem they could do any of the above options that 351 00:30:55,080 --> 00:31:03,760 we've discussed and probably a lot that we haven't but I I am going to make the 352 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:10,480 motion to table until we can do exactly what has been suggested and that is get 353 00:31:06,399 --> 00:31:17,559 a written legal opinion from the state's attorney on on specifically 354 00:31:14,679 --> 00:31:27,240 addressing uh whether or not we can invest taxpayer funds in in in a in a 355 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:32,960 risk and whether or not the uh whether or not it needs to be bid out if I could 356 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:38,000 get a second take a vote there's already a motion on the table 357 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:42,480 sorry I think Jeremy talked to Mr Handlin more than anybody sitting up 358 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:45,480 there and he I know that they've had conversations about 359 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:53,840 it okay Jeremy has made a motion to table is there a second 360 00:31:56,630 --> 00:31:59,669 [Music] 361 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:09,399 so we just so let me State your motion again I I made the motion to T until we 362 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:15,639 get a written legal opinion from the state's attorney on whether or not we 363 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:23,320 can invest and knowing if you too late money into into a risk investment 364 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:25,960 no risk and on on whether or not it needed to be 365 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:33,320 out there was no second table it don't go on the meeting next 366 00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:35,840 week too late can you table it and have have call meeting next week before the 367 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:41,279 board meeting why is he so generous to do this 368 00:32:39,159 --> 00:32:47,799 because he's a farmer he's always been a farmer he's like a third generation 369 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:52,840 farmer May before he hates to see the ground and girl in Weeds he did this for 370 00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:58,840 two years ago the county ended up with 371 00:32:56,039 --> 00:33:06,399 $174,000 which more than paid for uh the St the assistant States Attorney 372 00:33:00,679 --> 00:33:13,639 severance package and other person um $12,500 that nobody knows 373 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:18,639 um who and it's not taxpayer money that is revenue from the crop it is not 374 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:23,720 taxpayer money and I know Jeremy likes to say once you put that money into the 375 00:33:20,919 --> 00:33:30,360 general fund it's taxpayer money but it is not we sold that crop it went into 376 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:36,080 the F and it goes out and pays for all sorts of stuff it is public funds it is 377 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:42,200 public funds it is public funds it is not taxpayer money those those tax it is 378 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:47,440 not taxes on your tax form that paid for any that that is free money from the 379 00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:50,559 sale of that crop but those two terms are 380 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:54,360 interchangeable but it's not taxpayer money like you said okay so it's public 381 00:33:52,639 --> 00:33:59,320 so it's public funds it's still public funds but it is not taxpayer money so 382 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:04,320 taxpayers if you look on your tax bill it did not say that this money went to 383 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:08,599 the farm it just went into the general fund and it paid for the State's 384 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:15,240 Attorney's Office it paid for a de gunway or anybody it it was a huge 385 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:19,280 amount of money who was donating 386 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,800 somebody I don't know who it is but if you want me to 387 00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:34,000 call up any more discussion on I'm kind of 388 00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:38,839 leaning toward let's go ahead and plant B 389 00:34:35,839 --> 00:34:38,839 yes 390 00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:47,639 sense the public purpose of doing so is what the public purpose of the use of 391 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:54,839 the land when planting beans is what she just told is to pay 392 00:34:50,879 --> 00:34:58,520 for um County expenses and to relieve the burden of the taxpayers 393 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:07,440 so so so making money then we're going to call making money a public purpose 394 00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:12,040 that's that's what you're saying we're going to go into private business when 395 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:17,200 when the Supreme Court has already ruled that counties are not are not authorized 396 00:35:14,839 --> 00:35:21,680 to go into private business the Illinois Supreme Court has held that the statutes 397 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:25,760 are presumed to be constitutional and the Supreme Court has held that the 398 00:35:23,359 --> 00:35:32,520 legisl decides what a public purposes so in uh dun versus the county 399 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:36,119 of Rock Island and versus Johnson when the Supreme Court ruled that counties 400 00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:43,119 are not authorized to enter into private business we're going to compete with our 401 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:48,560 own constituents our local farmers with 402 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:53,359 anybody with you absolutely we are the new Farm Bill recognizes the 403 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:57,440 farming as serving a public purpose in that the revenue is used to pay County 404 00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:07,520 expenses and it relieves a burden on the tax taxers ex ex there you GOP didn't 405 00:36:04,359 --> 00:36:12,000 they didn't they didn't they remove that wasn't that in this first the first 406 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:15,280 amendment in the Senate CU they had in there funding the operations of the 407 00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:19,560 government like was said earlier and the Senate removed that 408 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:24,119 language they removed that before they passed HB 1076 because they saw the 409 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:28,160 Constitutional concern I do remember that the they 410 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,760 asked the senator if he was trying to change the 411 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:34,920 Constitution and he said no he was not trying to change the Constitution I do 412 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:40,359 remember reading that when I did all the research on that 1076 bills yeah Senator 413 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:44,880 Plummer was asked that in in in Springfield in session right before they 414 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:51,079 voted on that no we still 76 says you do not have to have a specific purpose 415 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:56,000 correct and that that is uh that you don't you don't designates like a couple 416 00:36:53,000 --> 00:37:00,880 years ago the board considered farming the farm and allocating 417 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:05,800 the profits to courthouse maintenance right you can't you 418 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:13,720 can't do that just go the general Cas for stuff it's paying is $74,000 to what 419 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:17,880 name so law designating designating the profits from the 420 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:21,640 farm is a specific public purpose you don't designate a specific public 421 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:25,119 purpose we're not desting going to put your we're not designating anything it's 422 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:29,000 going into the general I didn't say we were I'm giving an example while I lead 423 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:34,000 into something if we were to designate that 424 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:38,520 would be a specific public purpose die there's no second that would be a 425 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:43,640 specific public purpose but we can't do that and that's why that's why you don't 426 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:48,520 have a specific public purpose it removed the requirement because you 427 00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:51,800 never have a requirement for that so but you still have to you have to have a 428 00:37:50,359 --> 00:37:55,200 public purpose you don't you don't put it 429 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:59,480 toward this or put it toward that or put it toward the next thing it has to have 430 00:37:56,599 --> 00:38:04,000 a public purpose in a in a general sense okay we're going to vote on this yes 431 00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:10,119 could I I yeah wouldn't farming the farm be a 432 00:38:06,839 --> 00:38:13,800 public purpose in itself it's um well the noxious weeds are a problem if we 433 00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:21,040 knock down the weeds that serving a public purpose so you dis the weeds 434 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:27,280 under that's another option yeah that's $6,000 yeah my challenge is 435 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:32,240 is with everything that Stew's offering to donate it's like our our cost is 436 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:35,319 almost equal like I agree in principle with everything but I'm like well we're 437 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:39,359 going to have the same you know disc in the weeds yet solves the problem today 438 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:44,400 but a month from now the weeds are back the cover crop solve the same 439 00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:48,440 problem you do not cover till the all but but we're spending you know we're 440 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:52,640 spending money that will not generate any income I'm like 441 00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:58,200 well so if your principle of public purpose is over here and the donation is 442 00:38:55,640 --> 00:39:04,640 over here how how much how much are the principles 443 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:09,119 worth are they worth the farm inputs are they worth the Constitutional violation 444 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:12,319 are they worth it's not a constitutional are they worth abandoning the oath of 445 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:19,920 office to honor the Constitution or uphold the Constitution we've voted to 446 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:24,720 sell it Jeremy we're farming it one more time yeah then then let then let's PL a 447 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,800 cover crop let's do something good for the so 448 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:39,680 okay I'm going to call for a vote Jeremy what exactly are we oh we're 449 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:46,440 voting on number four for Sue to plant the beans the county will pay for the 450 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:53,560 inputs the chical and the insurance um the SE be are donated St 451 00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:59,319 will mow the waterways the roads the cemetery at no cost to the county 452 00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:13,599 I vote Yes T yes Jeremy no Carol yes Sean yes 453 00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:16,599 ke yes four yes one no 454 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:28,520 passes so we will put that on the agenda for an hour we talk to that stuff number 455 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:34,400 five is discuss and go the County Farm only if it isn't Farms I don't even know 456 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:40,079 if we need to go to this um I talked to Candy Compton 457 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:43,800 he he mowed twice last year at $500 each time but he did not mow the cemetery 458 00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:49,440 more than twice and I feel like the cemetery needs to be mowed more and St 459 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:53,720 says he would take care of it as many times as it needs to be mowed do we need 460 00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:59,400 which I think is quite generous do we need to vote to send this to the board 461 00:40:55,599 --> 00:41:05,200 in case item four fails at the full board cuz if item four fails at the full 462 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:10,839 board then we're back to square one with nobody Mowing and everything else do we 463 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:14,000 need to vote I'm I'm just trying to cover all our bases here cuz we're going 464 00:41:12,319 --> 00:41:17,640 to have a mess we got a mess out there now we need we do have a mess so let me 465 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:21,359 read this so it's discuss and vote on wearing County Farm only if the ground 466 00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:28,119 is not farmed can you pump waterways in Cemetery for $500 each time to diss your 467 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:33,560 entire Farm approximately 28 Acres he charged us $6,000 last 468 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:36,560 fall so 469 00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:46,480 if if we don't Farm it and we have to mow it I believe it's 470 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:52,480 still has to have a burn down I'm not sure the dis being 471 00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:55,160 would take care of that's just another burn down 472 00:41:56,240 --> 00:42:03,720 $1,000 and that's basically the first I don't know that 473 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:09,560 you when he dissed it last year it was so hard because we hadn't had any 474 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:15,240 rain the there there actually we have wheat growing out of the farm right now 475 00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:19,319 it's volunteer weed from you have to walk through the weed to get to the 476 00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:23,760 cemetery and the weeds aren't actually as tall as the weed but you're 477 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:30,160 tall um yeah if you just it now to get rid of 478 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:34,520 that it would have to be done again unless you get a crop unless you get a 479 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:39,400 cover crop or beans planted in it but you don't do a cover crop you can do 480 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:45,280 cover I I read from the ufi that you can do cover crops in both warm season and 481 00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:48,160 fall there's cover crops you can do in the spring and the summer and then 482 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:54,079 there's cover crops that you can do in the fall so I was researching that cover 483 00:42:50,839 --> 00:42:57,720 crop because um it was on the agenda okay well let's go back to let's wait 484 00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:02,480 and do that that's there so does somebody want to make a 485 00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:08,160 motion to put the mo on the agenda or do you want to skip 486 00:43:06,559 --> 00:43:14,280 it that's I'll make a motion that we that 487 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:18,920 if it's not put if the county Farm's not is not V on to be farmed this year that 488 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:23,319 we entertain this well we need do we need to take bids for mowing no cuz 489 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:29,359 normally I thought we had to take bids for everything as long as it falls under 490 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:32,319 the bid so I'll make a motion that we if the if the County Farm is not voted on 491 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:37,520 to be farmed it we send this to the county board for 492 00:43:34,839 --> 00:43:47,319 approve second okay 10 seconds we got to do something right something has to be 493 00:43:40,359 --> 00:43:52,760 done okay any other discussion on can 494 00:43:49,880 --> 00:44:01,960 any if not we'll take a vote all those in favor yes yes yes 495 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,960 opposed Samson 496 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:09,720 all number six is a discuss vote to receive bids for a cover crop including 497 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:13,170 chemical seed applications planning hiring a 498 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:19,240 farmer [Music] 499 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:25,520 um on st's proposal he also had cover crop estimates on his estimate came up 500 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:31,079 to $116,000 low over $16,000 that was to spray the chemical 501 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:39,720 because you have to have a burn down first you have to get rid of the 502 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,720 weeds and then the crop the 503 00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:49,040 drilling you have to hire a farmer this just doesn't get done by 504 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:56,079 itself I Jeremy had a proposal but it didn't say anything 505 00:44:51,599 --> 00:45:01,960 about hiring a farm yeah um I uh I reached out to K and he didn't get back 506 00:44:58,359 --> 00:45:09,240 with me with an email but he did um he he did he did discuss with me um uh he 507 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:14,440 and several others uh mentioned kitchen seeds which is the place in Arthur they 508 00:45:12,319 --> 00:45:20,480 uh they specialize in small seed like that uh there were there were a few 509 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:27,280 options um the one that he recommended was to do uh uh he said barley is good 510 00:45:23,839 --> 00:45:31,280 ahead of corn because uh Ry and corn can carry the same kinds of diseases so you 511 00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:37,640 put Rye ahead of beans and barley ahead of corn uh he said barley at 49 cents a 512 00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:42,240 pound at 50 lb an acre and he also recommended uh to mix some radish in 513 00:45:40,359 --> 00:45:48,200 there because that will help put some nitrogen back in soil that will be that 514 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:53,559 will be uh good for the soil uh radishes at $2 a pound at 5 lb an acre uh so and 515 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:58,839 I I told him just to use the rough average at 200 200 acres and that came 516 00:45:57,240 --> 00:46:03,640 out to uh 6,900 for for that mix to help put 517 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:10,720 nitrogen back in the soil it would also keep the weeds down and for application 518 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:14,280 purposes I spoke with Kenny and he uh is not going to do 519 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:17,280 it no 520 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:27,160 okay okay that's he told you something different than he told me did he tell 521 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,160 you he do 522 00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:32,839 I see from what I understand the farmers IO 523 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:42,200 um radish and the other green cannot be sewn at the same 524 00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:47,280 time so that's different passes that's not just one 525 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:51,839 pass I believe you can mix those in that's what I've been told I've always 526 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:57,920 did it together but did radish turnips and red clovers 527 00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:01,640 together just a spinner truck and then we dissed it 528 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:08,240 in and then I also heard that radishes smell really bad and it's like somebody 529 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:13,839 died they that that's actually then were turnips one or the other can but you'd 530 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:20,559 have to have a really thick stand like I don't I really don't think at that rate 531 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:26,280 it'd be a problem yeah so Kenny uh Kenny said uh there were there were different 532 00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:31,800 options you can you can drill those in or you can broadcast them and dis them 533 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:36,880 in and he doesn't drill what's that he does not drill I believe didn't he 534 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:41,040 drilled the wheat I don't think yeah he farmed a 535 00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:46,280 wheat crop last year he drilled the wheat in did did he drill it though like 536 00:47:43,559 --> 00:47:51,559 I me we used to just just weed it too I mean I don't know how he did it okay did 537 00:47:48,559 --> 00:47:56,640 he said he would do it he said uh let's see here uh if you want me to disc in 538 00:47:54,760 --> 00:48:01,640 The Barley turnips and radishes which is your just barley and radishes I could do 539 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:06,720 it for $30 an acre and again the same offer as last year for the mowing that 540 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:12,280 that you you already had in there so and I I've uh I've discussed the possibility 541 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:17,599 with uh with some different folks and because there because of the weeds 542 00:48:15,839 --> 00:48:26,119 you could disc the weeds down broadcast the seed disc it 543 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:29,800 in or you could disc the weeds and drill the seed in 544 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:33,720 [Music] the the drilling is the better the 545 00:48:31,839 --> 00:48:40,319 better option for it to take root and come up and germinate and all that 546 00:48:37,319 --> 00:48:45,240 um but a second pass with the disc isn't a bad idea 547 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:49,760 either can someone clarify what it costs an acre all total versus beans that's 548 00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:53,160 what I want to know because you're coming up with all these numbers and by 549 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:56,440 the time you're got all said and done may as well just put beans in and got 550 00:48:54,680 --> 00:49:01,839 income off of it because the cover crap get till 551 00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:07,480 under girl left I mean they're saying 30 bucks an 552 00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:12,160 acre to disc so yeah so that's what he charged last year so that's six grand 553 00:49:09,799 --> 00:49:15,760 and then if you do if you either disc it in again or drill it assuming that's 30 554 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:20,319 bucks an acre a second time so there's another six so there's 12 if you got to 555 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:24,240 make two passes and then you I guess you wouldn't have a burn down then you'd 556 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:29,160 have your seeg cost which was what 7,000 almost yeah 7,000 so that's 557 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:32,200 and what are beans what would bean price be just for beans knowing you're going 558 00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:36,640 to get a profit off of it cuz the intention of a cover crop correct me if 559 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:40,720 I'm wrong people that don't know it's to improve the Organics of the soil if you 560 00:49:38,359 --> 00:49:44,559 got a really heavily clay sometimes they'll do things like they Trad K and 561 00:49:43,079 --> 00:49:48,400 all these other mixes and turnips and stuff to add some of that back to the 562 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:52,520 soil so you don't you don't get a crop off of it you don't sell anything 563 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:57,720 typically correct sometimes people bail it but I mean erosion control in our 564 00:49:54,880 --> 00:50:03,000 case the cover crop my mind is to choke the weeds out so that we're not spraying 565 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:09,150 it or dis if we're going to settle it why would we 566 00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:12,599 have it would put nitrogen back in the [Music] 567 00:50:10,319 --> 00:50:18,000 soil why back in if somebody's going to buy 568 00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:22,799 the prop which would make it which would make it more 569 00:50:19,799 --> 00:50:22,799 marketable 570 00:50:23,839 --> 00:50:32,440 as over the I say from a nitrogen standpoint I don't 571 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:38,200 necessarily care but buying 200 Acres that's got you know noxious weeds This 572 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:42,839 Tall versus buying 200 Acres that has some cover crop there is to Jeremy's 573 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:47,720 point value in there being cover crop on it and it not having that weed bank so 574 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:52,680 how much value does it have when there's a when it's producing a crop though eth 575 00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:58,760 it's producing let's say I don't know eight a bush acre beans yeah 260 Bush an 576 00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:03,119 acre corn how much that got versus govern you know it'll produce something 577 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,799 it depends on which point of view you're looking at are you're looking at it from 578 00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:10,200 the County's point of view as income or you looking at it as somebody buying it 579 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:14,599 I mean we shouldn't be worried about somebody buying that's the whole point 580 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:18,640 would be P you know if we this about what's best for all if we justed it 581 00:51:15,839 --> 00:51:23,490 twice and then put the cover crop in the radishes and and barley right then 582 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:30,640 that's [Music] 583 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:38,480 19k and chemicals alone according to St is 21k so that's and then the crop 584 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:44,799 insurance here 22 you spend 22k or you spend 19k you get Revenue with the 22k 585 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:52,520 you get you get money only if go yeah 586 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:58,300 only I got4 cover crop I would what you say 587 00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:01,429 Mark [Music] 588 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:11,400 you so do we have a motion for 589 00:52:12,599 --> 00:52:23,000 this I'll make the motion to do the the the cover crop with the uh from from 590 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:30,440 Kitchen seed with the uh with the numbers provided for barley and radishes 591 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:35,680 um and uh and for Kenny to to do what he said he would do unless he told you 592 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:41,799 something different since since he spoke to 593 00:52:38,839 --> 00:52:47,799 me Carol can you text him and see Ken says he cannot drill the seed he would 594 00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:52,359 need somebody else to do that all he can do is dis the ground and he could he 595 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:57,640 could broadcast it in disc this the ground and I have no way of planting he 596 00:52:54,640 --> 00:53:04,079 said I how did he plant the we then he probably just used a he would dis for 597 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:10,079 $30 an acre and mow the grass and water weights 598 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:17,280 for so he will not do the cut um he could uh I think he told me he 599 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:22,040 he could broadcast it and disc it in or or we could have um we could have I 600 00:53:20,319 --> 00:53:26,599 think South Central has done our our stuff before hasn't it but we don't know 601 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:31,720 how much that is no 602 00:53:27,839 --> 00:53:38,640 idea all we know is that the the seed 603 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:47,200 is6 than that we don't have any other numers would have to be out 604 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:53,319 I and to me that's like farming you want put that that's farming 605 00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:58,319 just like he did he did tell me on on Monday that he would he would dis in 606 00:53:56,599 --> 00:54:03,160 turnips and radishes which this is just barley and radishes and he do it for $30 607 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:07,559 an acre the same as discing that's that's what he told me he would 608 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:13,799 do and then we have an application fee for somebody to spread it right for FS 609 00:54:10,839 --> 00:54:13,799 or whoever to spread 610 00:54:14,839 --> 00:54:18,000 it do 611 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:26,920 that is that farming because it's farming like just like st's farming that 612 00:54:25,799 --> 00:54:32,680 would that would that would just be maintenance of the 613 00:54:29,079 --> 00:54:38,119 property would that have b out like the lab and stuff as long as it falls 614 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:44,720 beneath the bid threshold and no that's farming Jeremy that's not 615 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:49,319 M far for nothing it's the bid threshold for nothing 616 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:53,680 threshold you just said you were going to have to put it out for bid and stew 617 00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:56,680 was going to farm it for free m but if it falls underneath the bid threshold 618 00:54:55,319 --> 00:55:01,319 you don't have to bid it out so what's the bid threshold st's going to do it 619 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:05,799 for nothing so what's the bid threshold you got to give you 10 bucks it was a 620 00:55:03,799 --> 00:55:12,240 dollar last oh sorry well I mean come 621 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:16,480 on we got to put it out for bid no we don't for Christ's sake talking out both 622 00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:24,520 sides of your mouth okay so Jeremy's made a motion on 623 00:55:19,839 --> 00:55:29,920 this I I thought we already had a motion to plant beans and we did this is a 624 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:35,160 motion cover we're sending it to the full board what if full board doesn't I 625 00:55:32,839 --> 00:55:40,440 think we need to send options I mean okay if we send one thing in the boat in 626 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:44,599 the board boats no one farming be or putting the beans then we're screw then 627 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:51,079 we're back to square one and another down the 628 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:51,079 road if somebody decides they 629 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:59,520 don't I'll second Jeremy's motion on the cover crop just in case the beans don't 630 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:01,839 okay we got to do something with that land 631 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:11,280 out but we still don't have 632 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:20,599 numbers we can't have probably by the board me absolutely what's that we can't 633 00:56:18,319 --> 00:56:25,359 have by the board meeting sure so that's next 634 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:29,640 Thursday by Tuesday to have it on the agenda to have it by Tuesday for the 635 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:40,559 agenda all those in favor of covered crop I I 636 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,559 yes how 637 00:56:45,720 --> 00:56:53,240 manys four yeses and one no I'm going to vote 638 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:57,240 now okay um 639 00:56:58,359 --> 00:57:01,200 we have any old 640 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:13,720 business we have 641 00:57:09,240 --> 00:57:13,720 L old business we a new 642 00:57:19,079 --> 00:57:22,079 business 643 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:34,480 bu no are we 644 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:34,480 done motion to Sean makes a motion 645 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:50,079 to did somebody second it I'll second 10 seconds all those in favor hi 646 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:54,799 opposed this okay an hour hey that's that's good thank you everybody 647 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:58,559 we have Public Safety tomorrow evening guys saf 648 00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:05,359 at 6:30 I 6 I won't either okay I told um 649 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:09,640 you told Tad that I would not I got to teach class tomorrow final 650 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:19,039 class I appreciate you standing up and advocating last board meeting for that 651 00:58:17,039 --> 00:58:23,680 and I wish the other two could come with you and make a passionate oh as 652 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:29,200 passionate of a thing and I think more people might come along if it wasn't 653 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:33,960 just Mom sorry about last month I was tired when I was talking to you at the 654 00:58:32,079 --> 00:58:40,559 at the cookout and I didn't forgot all about I had to be I had an officer 655 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:45,599 meeting and and association meeting I forgot thank 656 00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:52,079 you thank you yeah I can't move those chairs there and put that up there over 657 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,079 the road 658 00:59:00,319 --> 00:59:09,520 I can probably get it you not yet not yet I I will here just a 659 00:59:06,839 --> 00:59:13,000 minute should be off while everybody yeah it 660 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,160 should 661 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,640 off please