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We [clears throat] would invite all who
care to to join us for the recitation of

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the Lord's prayer followed by a moment
of silence.

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Our Father, who art in heaven, be thy
name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done

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on earth as it is in heaven. Give us
this day our daily bread. And forgive us

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our trespasses as we forgive those who
trespass against us. and lead us not

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into temptation, but deliver us from
evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the

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power, and the glory forever. Amen.

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It's now 7:00. Shall we say the council
is called to order? Please join me in

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the pledge of allegiance. I pledge
allegiance to the flag of the United

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States of America and to the republic
for which it stands. One nation under

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God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all.

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» Seated, please.

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[clears throat]
>> Call please. Mr. C.

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» Mr. Rob here. Mr. Roberts
>> here.

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» Mr. Reese
>> here.

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» Mr. Martin
>> present.

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» Mr. McG here.
>> I'll entertain a motion to dispense the

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reading of a journal from August the
3rd, 2026.

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» Second.
We have a motion by Mr. Roberts and a

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second by Mr. Martin to dispense with
the reading of the journal from August

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the 3rd, 2026. Discussion.
>> Roll call, please.

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» Mr. Rob,
>> yay.

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» Mr. Roberts,
>> Mr. Reese,

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» yay.
>> Mr. Martin,

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» yay.
>> Mr.

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» That motion passes. And now comes the
time for public comment. I see no one in

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the gallery for any public comment. Does
anyone have any public comment to read

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from any emails received? Someone
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Hearing none. Seeing none, let's move
forward then to reports from standing

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and special committees. Uh this evening
we do have a report from the committee

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the whole meeting and councilman
will that report.

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» Thank you mayor. Committee whole met
August the 11th at 3:30

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and we discussed basically the utilities
and streets committee information as

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well as finance and personnel. The first
item we want to discuss is the

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wastewater treatment project. Dewatering
project, wastewater treatment plan, I

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should say. The engineering is revising
a project scope to reduce the overall

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cost of the project. The last probable
cost estimate was $3 million. We're

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expected to have a new project design
for the engineer in the next couple of

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weeks.
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schedule, construction should be 100%
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Additional items related to that. We
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for the project. We desire to use
acceptance and grease deliveries to pay

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for the note and we'll be discussing
legislation tonight. on that. It's going

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to basically talk about the grease
receiving a rate of 12 cents per gallon

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where it states the grease shall be
identified as leftover liquid oil or

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congealed animal fragment from food
preparation, drying, deep frying and

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cooking waste soil that is gener from a
restaurant or school and such as

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identified and declared by the
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Next item, road salt update. ODOT is a
saving assisting the political

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subdivisions with salt purchases. Cost
per ton is $92 and the city requested

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800 tons and of course with that we
might need to be picking up the salt the

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Belleville ODOT post um which would be
about 88 loads that need to be picked

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up.
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electric fund discussion.
The electric system is not insured and

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it's not feasible. And so we need to we
need to maintain a $4.5 million minimum

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balance. The balance is dropping below
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about 200,000 less per year.
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electric 5-year capital projects are
pretty expensive with such as the 15 KV

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switch gear station project which could
be in the millions. the light plant

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facility/sm smoke stack ventilation
project also in the millions the George

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substation upgrade low millions and then
amps debt which still stands at 138

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38,000 plus
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tackle all these is to raise rates the
recover payment of $200,000 net

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reduction to the fund balance um the
tough solution is possibly a deep review

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into the general expenses. The electric
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of the revenues in 2025 as an example.
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Um other utility department rates and
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adjustment reminded remember we did a
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and then we've got the huge water
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engineers estimated about $10 million in
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Um as far as finance and personal we
have nothing to brief at this time. Any

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questions?
>> Thank you Mr. GL, are there any uh

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comments or questions for this from GL
regard his report?

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» Mr. Mark,
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[clears throat] there is a uh a grant
that we're looking at getting for the

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fire department. Uh and so there's a
potential where we may have to have an

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emergency meeting uh to approve that. So
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thank you.
Any other comments or questions?

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Move [clears throat] forward then to the
safety committee. Councilman Roberts.

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» Thanks, sir. We did meet on August 5th
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attended the LEPC meeting and that that
group is looking to they like to provide

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training on battery and energy storage
systems. So Tesla batter and solar

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batteries. We like to try to get that
training here since we have our our

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battery best our best system out there
with our solar field. It' be a really

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good place to have that training. So, uh
we'll try to try to see if we can get

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that to that training to come here. We
just have other parts come here and have

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that training.
mutual aid. We received one mutual aid

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from Madison received one from
Shiloh, provided six to Plymouth,

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provided one to Franklin, and provided
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Final inspection on the new engine will
be done on 31st of August, and from

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there it will be sent to the dealer for
uplifting. They received some donations

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to assist in the cost of some of the new
equipment that will be installed. Hydro

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flushing is taking place. should be
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5th of August. Um and then flow test be
would be taking place over the next few

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weeks. So that should be going on
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100 100 calls for the same time last
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And uh inspections are ongoing as usual.
CPR classes begin on uh on the 1st and

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15th of every month. and uh large
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chief attended the Ohio Fire Chief's
Conference July 13th and 16th. So there

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was some funding he got from that. So
that was a that was a fully funded

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conference for him covered the uh the
hotel stay and everything. So that and

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he said it's very beneficial. So he was
uh he was grateful for the funding so he

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could do that. We have discussion about
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there's
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The kids are riding not paying attention
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So, we're going to have some more we'll
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and
try some possible solutions maybe some

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education at least for that. But
there'll be more talks for talks to

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Councilman Roberts, are there any
comments or questions for Mr. Roberts in

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regard to this report? Mr. Rob
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um brought to my attention that there's
a group of juveniles that frequent the

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um Black Forks Commons area and the
particularly the pavilion down there and

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do um some vandalism with those close to
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the floor down there and and

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through the splash pad and all that. So,
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I'll say a little more about that in my
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Any other comments or questions?
Thank you, Councilman Roberts.

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Appreciate that.
We move on to reports of city officials

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in my mayor's report. Since our last
council meeting, I have been occupied

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with typical mayoral duties and
delights. I attended and participated in

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several meetings, the board of health
staff meeting, planning commission

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meeting, safety committee meeting,
committee of the whole of course. Uh

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last Wednesday spent about five hours
with Congressman Bob Lada as he visited

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a few businesses here in Shelby. Want to
thank Mr. Jeff Parton, our economic

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development manager for lining up those
site visits and um I met by Zoom with my

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fellow board members of the community
action commission of Erie Hiron and

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Richland County.
uh did meet uh as alluded to here uh uh

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with the uh issue of um
ebikes and all motorized forms of

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transportation.
Uh met with the traffic commission this

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morning and uh one of the main topics
was how to deal with the increasing

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number of bicycles and ebikes and micro
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devices. How's that for a mouthful? I
covered all this the scooters and

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skateboards and all that kind of stuff.
I want to thank Chief Combmes. He's put

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a a ton of work into this. We want to
approach it uh from a data driven

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standpoint. Um [snorts]

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we have two areas of concern of course
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[clears throat] the city as a whole. Um
discussion is ongoing

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uh laid some things out before the
traffic commission, maybe some signage

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coming up and so forth. Once that has
come as a recommendation, the next step

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will be the safety committee. And u we
want to, you know, take a look at our

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policies and and u crafting uh an
ordinance that will meet with the modern

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uh demands of today with all these
devices. So I think all of us have heard

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uh from from constituents. Uh chief is
well aware of those and uh it's really

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put together uh probably should get in
front of all of you right now. It's all

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draft form. We're still working on it,
but there will be uh there's plan plans

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for uh legislation coming before council
here, but it's going to take a little

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while because we're going to do it and
do it right. I will say I think in this

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uh executive briefing prepared by Chief
Combmes, I think this final uh paragraph

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here on page one uh kind of captures
where we we want [snorts] to go. Uh the

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proposed approach would preserve lawful
bicycle and ebike transportation,

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establish reasonable operating areas for
lower speed devices,

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protect pedestrians in designated areas,
prohibit unsafe behavior, and provide

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clearer rules for devices such as the
one wheels, electric skateboards, and

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electric unicycles that do not fit
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classifications.
Um, I think that kind of puts it in a

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nutshell. We want to try to avoid motor
vehicle collisions with these all these

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different devices. So, um, again, chief
is uh doing a great job of bringing this

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to a point and again the next stop will
be the safety committee. So, if you have

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any suggestions, if you've heard things,
seen things, have some things

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documented, uh, please pass those along
to Chief Commes. He's kind of heading

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this initiative up or heading up this
initiative. That's better initiative.

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So, that's kind of where we're at on
that, but we are moving forward with

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with some some policies and procedures,
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Um
just uh just a reminder to uh take a

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look at the state statutes concerning
motor vehicles. Um some of those

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do fall under classification of
motorcycles due to the output um of of

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the motor. So um not all of them are
being ridden legally. I see quite a few

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of them on the street with um young
people. Um definitely too young to be

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driving um operating what would be
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We're with you 100%.
And another piece of this would be

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educating our officers to identifying
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It's not anybody supposed to be labels
on as I understand. So, it's it's a it's

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kind of bit it's a little complicated uh
because these are just have just emerged

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so quickly on the market and some
pretending to be ebikes and they're not.

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» Well, this is this came out from the
state um years ago with anticipation

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that
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in the future.
>> Yes. And those uh those are referenced

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in in the in the legislation. So, thank
you. It's a foreign police. I'm sure

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you're well aware of all that stuff.
Okay. All right, gentlemen. That's all I

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have. Any questions or comments? Other
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» we'll turn our attention to Mr. Brian
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» Thank you, sir.
Our accounting software switch over is

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we are live on the new system. We are
learning somewhat painfully. Um, but uh

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as with all software conversions, um,
that's really kind of taken the most of

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the last couple weeks. But I do want to
thank everybody um throughout the city

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because the you know department heads
and such are going to really have to

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change how they do things as well. Um
but a special thank you to the staff at

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city hall. We we've picked up payroll
from ADP um as part of this. We're doing

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it in house now. Um so that was another
big hurdle that we mixed in right with

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everything else. So, um, but everybody
really really stepped up to to get that

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to happen. We had some hiccups on that
first payroll, but I think everything's

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been fixed for, uh, the next one. So,
we are off and running and it will be a

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lot of a lot of training in the near
future to make sure everybody's up to

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speed on that. All I have s
>> Thank you. Any comments or questions for

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Mr. K?
I may say I think from my observation

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that uh Miss Amber Cubet gets an a
double plus for all the work that she's

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done on this. So much behind the scenes
and extra hours she's put into this

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trying to get this rolled out as
smoothly as possible and still even

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today met with the superintendent. Uh so
so you know if you see Amber just make

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sure you thank her in in the future I
think Mr. transment standpoint. This is

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really going to be a great Mr. Dice also
writes out requisition and so forth.

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This is going to be so much smoother and
better and faster and more efficient.

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So, but just it's enough to apply like
this for a while. But, uh, so yeah, Miss

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Amber doing a great job going out.
All righty.

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But, uh, Mr.
Thank you, mayor. Uh my apologies for my

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absence last couple meetings. It will be
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Nothing to report.
>> Thank you, sir.

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Comments, questions for Mr.
Mr. G, project coordinator. Thank you,

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Mayor. Um crews have started on the curb
rake portion of the paving project. So,

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I imagine those have those tomorrow. Uh
the asphalt contractors ready to start

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right away. So they'll have about 3 4
days worth of work and then come back

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and adjust all the casting. So it's not
a very big project. Shouldn't take long.

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So uh also the contractor started on our
west main and south long project. Um

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they're having they're doing the water
main portion of it right now. They're

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their
structures for the drainage. They can't

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get until the end of September. So,
they're going to come back, then they

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get the water part done, then come back
in September and get that uh portion

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completed. So, I'll do all done before
the snowflies and get good time for

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asphalt. Um, you were handed out today a
part of my zoning part.

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There is an uh plan commission will hold
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concerning a cell tower rise cell tower
right between the fire department and

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the justice center.
I believe it's not what it says on the

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air, but that's okay. We know where it's
at. Um so they will uh hold that hearing

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right there for planning commission
meeting Tuesday. Also, you're giving out

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a thing which it's on the next uh piece
of agenda here. The Historic

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Preservation Commission did move to
recommend the council that the mausoleum

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be removed from the local landmarks
list. I handed you out a copy of that

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legislation that deals with that and
highlighted that commission may

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recommend that council remove that
landmark from the landmarks list and no

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longer meet the criteria of this
chapter.

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That's all I have.
Any comments or questions for Mr. Gard

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we may say a word about the CSX
crossings that you know we really don't

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have much control. I don't know we've
been in contact with with CSX but you

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got any on that?
>> So what they've done is especially

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across Gamble they've already completed
the main street crossing. So they're

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replacing all the rail.
The rails I don't know remember the

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length of it, but it's starting at the
um north end of Main Street crossing and

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CSX.
They're that whole piece of rail goes

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all the way through Gamble and all the
way through Smiley. So when they lay

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that in, they do not want to join
in the in the crossing. So for protect

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that particular one, they have to cross
close both of them down. They're

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replacing of the rail. So they'll lay
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then open things back up. So that's the
reason why they're doing both of them at

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the same time. They started they're
starting out, I think, this week out on

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the north side of town street and

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» street on the west.
>> So they will be moving in town and it's

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going to be a pain, but
it is what it is.

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Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. And the timing is
kind of rough for school starting. You

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know, there are a number of folks that
drive both State Street and West. So

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hopefully that'll be completed as soon
as possible, but we do not have any

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control over that other than to
communicate with them, let them know our

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desires.
So hopefully that'll be done quick.

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All right. Any other comments or
questions?

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All right, look forward to new business.
Uh, as Mr. you guys alluded to, there's

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a letter of recommendation
uh from the Shelby Historic Preservation

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Commission concerning the Oakland
Cemetery Moselum

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and
to take action upon that.

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Mayor, I move that we formally remove
the Oakland Mausoleum located within

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Oakland Cemetery uh from the city of
Shel's historic global landmark

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laboratory. Second,

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» we have a motion by Mr. Martin and a
second by Mr. Roberts that we formally

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remove the Ontario Moselum from the
local historic landmark inventory here

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in the city of Shelby. approval.
Understood.

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» Okay. Discussed, Mr. Rob.
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under section D here said the commission
may recommend council remove the

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landmarks list
properties that no longer meet the

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criteria of the chapter. How exactly
does this no longer meet the criteria of

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the historical comm?
Um, you know, they labeled that out in

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this
They've had to remove two of the main

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towers. Um the other two were scheduled
to be removed just because they

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deteriorated so bad that they have to
come down. Um and then at that point

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there's really nothing left of the
significance. They just want they've got

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a project to do something to get those
crips covered up and protect those who

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are resting in hope for peace and so
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What is the plan going forward? Then as
far as the crips are concerned,

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» they have a um a plan to basically build
a building on top of that

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and with some different features. Uh
they've been working with Chris Rand

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local historian to do some things on the
inside to make that keep the history of

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the building alive inside of there. So I
would the listening to the comm historic

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preservation commission and some of the
local historians and the cemetery

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committee has done a fine job I think of
trying to preserve that history.

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I've been I've been following this um
for quite a while and and I know the

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reason I'm asking these questions is so
people have an understanding why and

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where

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» it is interesting to note for the record
that while they

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do
uh recommend that we remove the the

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mausoleum
um they

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are against the whole barn enclosure.
Um, so I just like to point that out.

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But, um, how how does this, if anything,
affect, uh, our ability to get grants to

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help out with the project itself?

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» Um, as a reminder, um, Don Gates had
brought the cemetery issue up a few

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years ago about the situation it was in.
There was one board member that was on

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the board at the time, John Hancock. He
was a president, the only board member.

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And so there were some issues with the
cemetery. And so myself, Mr. Ensman, Mr.

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Trump from who volunteered, I don't
know, three years ago to join that

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board. And um since then, um we've, you
know, adjusted the rates for different

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things dealing with the cemetery. We've
um paved the $245,000

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in paving. You know, we've fixed some
flooding issues in the northwest corner

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of the cemetery, but of course, the
biggest issue is the mausoleum as Joe

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was talking about over the years. You
know, we had a lot of water damage and

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it just really ate the exterior of the
structure away. And so John Edmond, he's

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he's you know taken the lead in um you
know getting a design for the exterior,

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you know, so you can talk about it in a
moment. Um but he's put a lot of time in

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into this and we've worked with the
historical commission, Christina Drain

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and others, you know, to really come up
with the best um the best design that we

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could come up with. We ran like last
year we went to the Miller Foundation

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and time for $130,000 grant. We received
it. Okay. So, that's very helpful. The

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community raised approximately $5,000 as
well. Um,

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you know, we've had some other other
folks jump in and, you know, give some

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money to the cause. So, I think we're
sitting at 160,000ish right now, you

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know, to be able to do this. And so um
if you have me John or Brian we can

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answer more in depth questions if you
have any

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one thing to add that to that might
speak to council Martin's point um this

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is an enclosure so you talk about
getting grants if someone would want to

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do the project of a complete renovation
and wanted them to work towards

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you know getting raising the money and
doing that project it would be possible

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you just take build it off. Um just the
the funds were not available. Uh we

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couldn't couldn't raise that kind of
money for the time being. So it's being

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preserved and hopefully someday that
would be a possibility.

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» I guess that's my concern that you know
so we're putting this enclosure over

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there which I completely that's fine.
But if we did want to or somebody wanted

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to get grants to do a restoration
of what is underneath,

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not having it as a historic landmark
would be a negative against those

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grants.
Correct.

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» It is still listed on the national

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opportunities at that point.
There is a there is a $5,000 grant. We

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didn't meet the deadline. Um we just had
not reported fully on that when

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Christina D brought it to our attention.
So Christina is going to be, you know,

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for this next round. She's going to be
applying for that as well as we're going

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to revisit some other opportunities, you
know, that we went with last year that

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we did not, you know, we weren't part of
receiving any of those funds. Um but

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whatever monies we have left over from
from our project um we are going to hand

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off to Christina drain for her to you
know develop the inside of the structure

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to possibly you know contain like a like
a probably like a little museum like

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what we have right outside the doors
here in the hallways. Um um

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I guess my
point is is it not a little premature to

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take it off of our local registry at
this juncture. We really don't know

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because we don't cross we don't know if
this this over structure is going to be

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more a long-term solution or a temporary
solution. And we won't know that until

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you know kind of the chips fall where
they may. Is it premature to remove it

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from the local designation?
>> I guess question.

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» Yeah, I I understand Mr. Martin's
concern. You know,

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I think we should go with the historical
commission's recommendation at this time

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and just move forward. Some of the other
things they're looking at, we still

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there's 240 crypts, 220 are filled. So,
if we can get the building looking nice

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and the internal structure the um but we
still have 20 openings if anybody in the

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future would like to be buried there um
where the four towers are being removed

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the two already removed you can see the
the area of the pads where the two

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towers on the east side used to be
Christina Dr come up with the idea of

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possibly you know incorporating an area
within each tower where there's room to

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place urns you know to further you know
in case might be placed in there

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still

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as well.

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Any further discussion?
>> Just [clears throat] I mean we begin

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through here I guess I was asking
Why the recommendations and the key

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reasons for recommendations are severe
structural deterioration, water damage,

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public safety concerns,
loss of

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architectural integrity. I mean,

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there's nothing that says that we have
to do it. I mean, there's no reason. But

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by taking this off of the registry,
>> local

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» the local registry, there's no
I mean it doesn't help or hinder it in

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any way. Correct.

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» I guess just in being in some of the
meetings I think it's the idea if you

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have something on the local registry
should be local registry worthy and they

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don't feel that in this present
condition it's local registry worthy.

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It's it's like a guy that looked at the
hammer, the hatchet that George

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Washington chucked on the cherry tree
and had the museum. They said, "That's

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the hammer." I'm sorry. That is the
hatchet that George Washington used to

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chuck out the cherry tree. He said,
"Yes, sir. That's the hammer." Three

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handles and two new heads, but that's
that is that is that is a hatchet. So,

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uh, what we have out there is not the
original,

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you know, for for good reason. And I
just don't think it has local registry

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this national registry original roots. I
think it still opens up the idea for

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grants. But I think historicity is
trying to be maintained by closing it,

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protecting it, uh being able to do some
things. I saw rendition of what could be

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done on the inside, protecting the
history of that mausoleum. So I I do

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that's kind of why they're moving
forward with this that it's no longer

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really something that they should be
championing at this point.

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» Are we opening up that proverbial can of
worms by taking it off and then the to

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the national and says hang on a second
you know if they took it off the local

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registry should we can they look at that
and say go ahead and try to take it off

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of the national registry. Is that
something that can happen too? And then

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that thing just sitting there not on any
registry at all

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first.
>> My guess is in its condition and this

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when the nationals come around if they
ever do anything they're going to take

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it off.
>> So I mean this doesn't meet any of the

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criteria right
>> that's on our ordinance anymore.

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Once
tonight, once we take this off the

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registry, the next step, Mr. Ensman's
got to get the county to approve some

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the engineering design. Once it's
approved, then our our builder can set a

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date to build that. We want to get that
done as quickly as possible before we go

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back into the winter cycle. Once we get
the builder to decide when he's going to

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do it, Joe Lyens locally, he's going to
take the west towers down for free like

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he did the east to house and saved us a
lot of money. When the west towers are

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down, essentially the only thing left of
the exterior of that entire building,

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the roof's going to be gone, the four
towers are going to be gone. Only the

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north and south side walls are going to
be there. And they're in bad shape, too.

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Um, but we decided to leave those in
place. So, the structure, Mr.

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has, you know, seen the design through,
you know, it's going to cover everything

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and make sure that the 220 folks that
are tuned in there are protected in the

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next, you know, winter cycle. You know,
it's our belief that if if it goes

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through another winter cycle, um those
towels could fall down. You know, um Bob

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Dean originally a couple years ago, you
know, he had some safety concerns with

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the exterior property of that structure
and We spent $3,000, I believe, to put a

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fence, a safety fence around us so
children, you know, wouldn't go up to it

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and, you know, get cloer by falling off,
you know, the tops of those towers. And

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so, you know, as soon as Joe Legs was
ready, we took those that safety fencing

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down and he took down those two towers.
But now the west towers are in really

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bad shape. And so, we do not want to see
that. It's like, well, we need, you

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know, to make sure, you know, we comply
with what the historical commission

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would like to do. So, Mr. can go and get
those engineering um approvals done so

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we can start the construction.
>> Well, I I

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I have to side with the the historic
commission on this. Um

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reason being um
to build the building um as it stands

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right now um they would have to go
against their guidelines to approve the

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structure that needs to be built there
to protect that building. Um so removing

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that removes them from that process and
allows that to continue which is going

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to be very helpful um to continue the
project. It's something that has to be

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done. It's going to be done sooner or
later or the whole thing is going to be

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on the ground and then we have a huge
problem. So removing it from their

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responsibility I think is a very
responsible for thing for them to do.

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what it has to be done.
>> All right. So, connecting the dots, the

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historical commission is a barrier at
this time to actually putting up the

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whole Bomb Brook building and this is a
way for us to take it out of their

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purview. So, they're no longer a barrier
to what actually needs done. So, we've

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been dancing around this, making it
sound like it was the historical

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commission's idea, but let's just call
brass tax and brass tax. The historical

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commission doesn't want the pullbar
building. And so, if we don't remove it

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from their purview, then they're not
going to approve the pullbar building

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and then it will have to be appealed to
us and it will come back to us and the

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whole thing. So, all right. Now that we
got that cleared up,

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» that's they know at the last commission
meeting they had a timeline and said

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they didn't approve it. It was
automatically approved. They took no

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action during that. So it's
automatically approved and then they

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said we're just going to make motion to
send this to council. So it's because it

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doesn't meet the criteria and and so
forth. So, they actually worked with the

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cemetery board on somewhat of a design
for the building to go over just to to

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try to make it something, but it's not
what it was. So,

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» we we've been working very closely with
the historical commission on this. Um,

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letting them all know where we're at,
what we need to do. So, we appreciate

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the help of the historical commission.
One of the things I do want to say, if

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you go out there and look from the east
side, inside um the west towers started

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falling in I don't know 5 10 years ago
and and it somehow connected to the roof

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at all and they built this kind of
structure of beams on top of beams all

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the way up from the floor to the ceiling
you know supporting this um our concern

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is if it goes through one more winter
cycle and everything caves in and it

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cracks those crifts open like Mr. Rob
said, "We're going to we're going to be

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dealing with something bigger."
So, we're our number one goal, I mean,

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Mr. Cone and Mr. Edmond all along has
been to see this through to make sure

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that that we protect those crypts.
That's the number one goal here. And so,

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I we think we've come up with a the best
with the money we've raised, the best um

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design we could with the money we
raised.

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Thank you. Any further discussion?

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Roll call on the motion to formally
remove Mr.

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» Mr. Rob.
>> Yay.

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» Mr. Roberts.
>> Yay.

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» Mr. Reese,
>> yay.

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» Mr. Martin,
>> yay.

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» Mr. Yay.
>> That motion passes. Ladies and

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gentlemen, any other new business to be
brought before council this evening?

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Any unfinished business before council?
Let's move forward with legislation. Mr.

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Orders number eight, 2026. Transfer
appropriations for the year 2026 and

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declaring an emergency.
>> That rules are requiring that orders be

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two separate occasions be suspended.
>> Second,

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we have a motion by Mr. Roberts, a
second by Mr. Martin that the rule

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requiring an preceptation be suspended.
Discussion, Mr.

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Uh my agenda says for the year 2025. Is
that correct?

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» Uh no that was uh error on the agenda
but the ordinance does say

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» thank you for
>> you're looking for an evil eye award.

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We'll give it to you.
>> No just avoid some confusion. I'm just

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all right. In ter discussion on the
motion to suspend

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roll, please
>> Mr. Rob.

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» Yay.
>> Mr. Roberts,

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» Mr. Reese,
>> yay.

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» Mr. Martin,
>> that motion passes.

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» Passes the ordinance.
>> Second.

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» We have a motion on Mr. Robinson, a
second by Mr. Martin for the passage of

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ordinance number 8, 2026. Discussion.
Mr.

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» Thanks, sir. Uh most of this is just
housekeeping. We're we're getting to

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that part of the the year where some
lines are starting to uh run a little

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low. Um and so we're pling them with
other lines. A couple of the the major

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things the fire department needs to do a
software conversion. I think it's 12 or

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13 grand. Wasn't on the the uh
wasn't on the the agenda appropriations.

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And so that came up and chemicals were
just a lot higher than they were last

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year with the Blackboard Commons and
prices just going up and a few other

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administrative stuff to move around.
Nothing too surprising with this.

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» Thank you. Any further discussion?
Roll call. [clears throat]

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» Mr. Rob,
>> yay.

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» Mr. Roberts, yay.
>> Mr. Reese,

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» yay.
>> Mr. Martin, yay.

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» Mr. Clark,
>> yay.

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» That motion passes.

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Orders number 9, 2026 amending section
1044.09

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set receiving rate and eched chapter 104
sewer charges of the codified ordinances

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of the city of Shelby, Ohio. For three
second

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motion by Mr. Roberts and second by Mr.
for the passage of ordinance number 900

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I'm sorry first reading rather of
ordinance number 9 2026 discussion

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» no call please
>> Mr. Rob

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» yay
>> Mr. Roberts

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» y
>> Mr. Reese

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» yay
>> Mr. Martin

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» yay
>> Mr. You're welcome.

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» Yeah.
>> 29 2026 passes first reading.

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Nothing for miscellaneous business. Is
there any miscellaneous business to be

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brought before council this?

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» Mr. Mark mayor council adjournment.
>> Second.

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» Have a motion by Mr. Martin and second
by Mr. Mclofflin for adjournment. Roll

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call please.
>> Mr. Rob.

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» Yay.
>> Mr. Roberts.

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» Yay.
>> Mr. Reese.

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» Yay.
>> Mr. Martin.

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» Yay.
>> Mr. W. Yay.

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» That motion passes. Council adjourn to
7:42. Thank you, gentlemen.