[0:01] We [clears throat] would invite all who
care to to join us for the recitation of
[0:05] the Lord's prayer followed by a moment
of silence.
[0:09] Our Father, who art in heaven, be thy
name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done
[0:16] on earth as it is in heaven. Give us
this day our daily bread. And forgive us
[0:22] our trespasses as we forgive those who
trespass against us. and lead us not
[0:27] into temptation, but deliver us from
evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the
[0:32] power, and the glory forever. Amen.
[1:16] It's now 7:00. Shall we say the council
is called to order? Please join me in
[1:20] the pledge of allegiance. I pledge
allegiance to the flag of the United
[1:26] States of America and to the republic
for which it stands. One nation under
[1:32] God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all.
[1:37] » Seated, please.
[1:41] [clears throat]
>> Call please. Mr. C.
[1:43] » Mr. Rob here. Mr. Roberts
>> here.
[1:46] » Mr. Reese
>> here.
[1:47] » Mr. Martin
>> present.
[1:48] » Mr. McG here.
>> I'll entertain a motion to dispense the
[1:53] reading of a journal from August the
3rd, 2026.
[1:56] » Second.
We have a motion by Mr. Roberts and a
[2:01] second by Mr. Martin to dispense with
the reading of the journal from August
[2:04] the 3rd, 2026. Discussion.
>> Roll call, please.
[2:09] » Mr. Rob,
>> yay.
[2:11] » Mr. Roberts,
>> Mr. Reese,
[2:13] » yay.
>> Mr. Martin,
[2:15] » yay.
>> Mr.
[2:16] » That motion passes. And now comes the
time for public comment. I see no one in
[2:22] the gallery for any public comment. Does
anyone have any public comment to read
[2:25] from any emails received? Someone
desires for public comment.
[2:29] Hearing none. Seeing none, let's move
forward then to reports from standing
[2:33] and special committees. Uh this evening
we do have a report from the committee
[2:37] the whole meeting and councilman
will that report.
[2:42] » Thank you mayor. Committee whole met
August the 11th at 3:30
[2:47] and we discussed basically the utilities
and streets committee information as
[2:51] well as finance and personnel. The first
item we want to discuss is the
[2:55] wastewater treatment project. Dewatering
project, wastewater treatment plan, I
[3:00] should say. The engineering is revising
a project scope to reduce the overall
[3:04] cost of the project. The last probable
cost estimate was $3 million. We're
[3:08] expected to have a new project design
for the engineer in the next couple of
[3:12] weeks.
As part of the anticipated project
[3:15] schedule, construction should be 100%
complete by 2028.
[3:20] Additional items related to that. We
need to establish revenue stream to pay
[3:24] for the project. We desire to use
acceptance and grease deliveries to pay
[3:27] for the note and we'll be discussing
legislation tonight. on that. It's going
[3:32] to basically talk about the grease
receiving a rate of 12 cents per gallon
[3:36] where it states the grease shall be
identified as leftover liquid oil or
[3:40] congealed animal fragment from food
preparation, drying, deep frying and
[3:45] cooking waste soil that is gener from a
restaurant or school and such as
[3:49] identified and declared by the
superintendent water treatment plant.
[3:53] Next item, road salt update. ODOT is a
saving assisting the political
[3:58] subdivisions with salt purchases. Cost
per ton is $92 and the city requested
[4:03] 800 tons and of course with that we
might need to be picking up the salt the
[4:07] Belleville ODOT post um which would be
about 88 loads that need to be picked
[4:12] up.
Next [clears throat] item is the
[4:14] electric fund discussion.
The electric system is not insured and
[4:20] it's not feasible. And so we need to we
need to maintain a $4.5 million minimum
[4:25] balance. The balance is dropping below
from the desired $4.5 million balance at
[4:31] about 200,000 less per year.
Other [clears throat] items upcoming
[4:36] electric 5-year capital projects are
pretty expensive with such as the 15 KV
[4:41] switch gear station project which could
be in the millions. the light plant
[4:45] facility/sm smoke stack ventilation
project also in the millions the George
[4:50] substation upgrade low millions and then
amps debt which still stands at 138
[4:58] 38,000 plus
couple of solutions [clears throat] to
[5:03] tackle all these is to raise rates the
recover payment of $200,000 net
[5:08] reduction to the fund balance um the
tough solution is possibly a deep review
[5:13] into the general expenses. The electric
fund supports a general fund with 11.2%
[5:19] of the revenues in 2025 as an example.
It supports a general fund with $350,000
[5:26] in administrative cost.
[5:33] Um other utility department rates and
project funding. the water rate
[5:37] adjustment reminded remember we did a
13% increase effective July 1st of 2026
[5:43] and then we've got the huge water
service line replacement project which
[5:48] engineers estimated about $10 million in
that that project starts next year in
[5:53] 2027.
[5:56] Um as far as finance and personal we
have nothing to brief at this time. Any
[6:01] questions?
>> Thank you Mr. GL, are there any uh
[6:05] comments or questions for this from GL
regard his report?
[6:09] » Mr. Mark,
>> uh just one thing to add. Um
[6:14] [clears throat] there is a uh a grant
that we're looking at getting for the
[6:17] fire department. Uh and so there's a
potential where we may have to have an
[6:21] emergency meeting uh to approve that. So
just
[6:28] thank you.
Any other comments or questions?
[6:38] Move [clears throat] forward then to the
safety committee. Councilman Roberts.
[6:42] » Thanks, sir. We did meet on August 5th
and uh the hazmat
[6:49] attended the LEPC meeting and that that
group is looking to they like to provide
[6:55] training on battery and energy storage
systems. So Tesla batter and solar
[7:02] batteries. We like to try to get that
training here since we have our our
[7:08] battery best our best system out there
with our solar field. It' be a really
[7:12] good place to have that training. So, uh
we'll try to try to see if we can get
[7:16] that to that training to come here. We
just have other parts come here and have
[7:20] that training.
mutual aid. We received one mutual aid
[7:24] from Madison received one from
Shiloh, provided six to Plymouth,
[7:30] provided one to Franklin, and provided
one mutually to Crescent.
[7:36] Final inspection on the new engine will
be done on 31st of August, and from
[7:40] there it will be sent to the dealer for
uplifting. They received some donations
[7:44] to assist in the cost of some of the new
equipment that will be installed. Hydro
[7:49] flushing is taking place. should be
finished that week. So the week of the
[7:54] 5th of August. Um and then flow test be
would be taking place over the next few
[8:00] weeks. So that should be going on
currently right now. Calls or up over
[8:05] 100 100 calls for the same time last
year.
[8:10] And uh inspections are ongoing as usual.
CPR classes begin on uh on the 1st and
[8:16] 15th of every month. and uh large
businesses on as needed basis and the
[8:24] chief attended the Ohio Fire Chief's
Conference July 13th and 16th. So there
[8:30] was some funding he got from that. So
that was a that was a fully funded
[8:36] conference for him covered the uh the
hotel stay and everything. So that and
[8:42] he said it's very beneficial. So he was
uh he was grateful for the funding so he
[8:46] could do that. We have discussion about
um ebikes. Um the
[8:54] there's
seems like it's getting out of control.
[8:57] The kids are riding not paying attention
to the to the uh the laws of the roads.
[9:03] So, we're going to have some more we'll
have more more discussions about that
[9:08] and
try some possible solutions maybe some
[9:12] education at least for that. But
there'll be more talks for talks to
[9:17] come.
[9:20] Councilman Roberts, are there any
comments or questions for Mr. Roberts in
[9:24] regard to this report? Mr. Rob
[clears throat] on the subject
[9:29] um brought to my attention that there's
a group of juveniles that frequent the
[9:35] um Black Forks Commons area and the
particularly the pavilion down there and
[9:42] do um some vandalism with those close to
the left. black rubber marks all over
[9:49] the floor down there and and
[9:54] through the splash pad and all that. So,
we actually
[10:01] I'll say a little more about that in my
report as well.
[10:05] Any other comments or questions?
Thank you, Councilman Roberts.
[10:09] Appreciate that.
We move on to reports of city officials
[10:14] in my mayor's report. Since our last
council meeting, I have been occupied
[10:18] with typical mayoral duties and
delights. I attended and participated in
[10:24] several meetings, the board of health
staff meeting, planning commission
[10:27] meeting, safety committee meeting,
committee of the whole of course. Uh
[10:32] last Wednesday spent about five hours
with Congressman Bob Lada as he visited
[10:37] a few businesses here in Shelby. Want to
thank Mr. Jeff Parton, our economic
[10:42] development manager for lining up those
site visits and um I met by Zoom with my
[10:49] fellow board members of the community
action commission of Erie Hiron and
[10:54] Richland County.
uh did meet uh as alluded to here uh uh
[11:01] with the uh issue of um
ebikes and all motorized forms of
[11:08] transportation.
Uh met with the traffic commission this
[11:12] morning and uh one of the main topics
was how to deal with the increasing
[11:17] number of bicycles and ebikes and micro
mobility and personal conveyance
[11:24] devices. How's that for a mouthful? I
covered all this the scooters and
[11:29] skateboards and all that kind of stuff.
I want to thank Chief Combmes. He's put
[11:33] a a ton of work into this. We want to
approach it uh from a data driven
[11:40] standpoint. Um [snorts]
[11:44] we have two areas of concern of course
with the downtown business district and
[11:48] [clears throat] the city as a whole. Um
discussion is ongoing
[11:54] uh laid some things out before the
traffic commission, maybe some signage
[11:59] coming up and so forth. Once that has
come as a recommendation, the next step
[12:04] will be the safety committee. And u we
want to, you know, take a look at our
[12:08] policies and and u crafting uh an
ordinance that will meet with the modern
[12:16] uh demands of today with all these
devices. So I think all of us have heard
[12:22] uh from from constituents. Uh chief is
well aware of those and uh it's really
[12:28] put together uh probably should get in
front of all of you right now. It's all
[12:33] draft form. We're still working on it,
but there will be uh there's plan plans
[12:38] for uh legislation coming before council
here, but it's going to take a little
[12:42] while because we're going to do it and
do it right. I will say I think in this
[12:47] uh executive briefing prepared by Chief
Combmes, I think this final uh paragraph
[12:54] here on page one uh kind of captures
where we we want [snorts] to go. Uh the
[13:00] proposed approach would preserve lawful
bicycle and ebike transportation,
[13:05] establish reasonable operating areas for
lower speed devices,
[13:11] protect pedestrians in designated areas,
prohibit unsafe behavior, and provide
[13:19] clearer rules for devices such as the
one wheels, electric skateboards, and
[13:24] electric unicycles that do not fit
neatly with a traditional bicycle
[13:29] classifications.
Um, I think that kind of puts it in a
[13:34] nutshell. We want to try to avoid motor
vehicle collisions with these all these
[13:41] different devices. So, um, again, chief
is uh doing a great job of bringing this
[13:48] to a point and again the next stop will
be the safety committee. So, if you have
[13:52] any suggestions, if you've heard things,
seen things, have some things
[13:55] documented, uh, please pass those along
to Chief Commes. He's kind of heading
[13:59] this initiative up or heading up this
initiative. That's better initiative.
[14:05] So, that's kind of where we're at on
that, but we are moving forward with
[14:09] with some some policies and procedures,
legislation.
[14:14] Um
just uh just a reminder to uh take a
[14:20] look at the state statutes concerning
motor vehicles. Um some of those
[14:25] do fall under classification of
motorcycles due to the output um of of
[14:32] the motor. So um not all of them are
being ridden legally. I see quite a few
[14:38] of them on the street with um young
people. Um definitely too young to be
[14:45] driving um operating what would be
classified as a motorcycle.
[14:54] We're with you 100%.
And another piece of this would be
[14:58] educating our officers to identifying
some of them may look like an ebike.
[15:02] It's not anybody supposed to be labels
on as I understand. So, it's it's a it's
[15:06] kind of bit it's a little complicated uh
because these are just have just emerged
[15:11] so quickly on the market and some
pretending to be ebikes and they're not.
[15:15] » Well, this is this came out from the
state um years ago with anticipation
[15:21] that
>> that we may run into something like this
[15:24] in the future.
>> Yes. And those uh those are referenced
[15:27] in in the in the legislation. So, thank
you. It's a foreign police. I'm sure
[15:32] you're well aware of all that stuff.
Okay. All right, gentlemen. That's all I
[15:37] have. Any questions or comments? Other
than that,
[15:40] » we'll turn our attention to Mr. Brian
Crown, director of finance.
[15:44] » Thank you, sir.
Our accounting software switch over is
[15:50] we are live on the new system. We are
learning somewhat painfully. Um, but uh
[15:56] as with all software conversions, um,
that's really kind of taken the most of
[16:01] the last couple weeks. But I do want to
thank everybody um throughout the city
[16:06] because the you know department heads
and such are going to really have to
[16:11] change how they do things as well. Um
but a special thank you to the staff at
[16:16] city hall. We we've picked up payroll
from ADP um as part of this. We're doing
[16:21] it in house now. Um so that was another
big hurdle that we mixed in right with
[16:26] everything else. So, um, but everybody
really really stepped up to to get that
[16:33] to happen. We had some hiccups on that
first payroll, but I think everything's
[16:37] been fixed for, uh, the next one. So,
we are off and running and it will be a
[16:45] lot of a lot of training in the near
future to make sure everybody's up to
[16:50] speed on that. All I have s
>> Thank you. Any comments or questions for
[16:55] Mr. K?
I may say I think from my observation
[17:00] that uh Miss Amber Cubet gets an a
double plus for all the work that she's
[17:06] done on this. So much behind the scenes
and extra hours she's put into this
[17:11] trying to get this rolled out as
smoothly as possible and still even
[17:14] today met with the superintendent. Uh so
so you know if you see Amber just make
[17:21] sure you thank her in in the future I
think Mr. transment standpoint. This is
[17:26] really going to be a great Mr. Dice also
writes out requisition and so forth.
[17:34] This is going to be so much smoother and
better and faster and more efficient.
[17:37] So, but just it's enough to apply like
this for a while. But, uh, so yeah, Miss
[17:43] Amber doing a great job going out.
All righty.
[17:49] But, uh, Mr.
Thank you, mayor. Uh my apologies for my
[17:53] absence last couple meetings. It will be
avoided. I think everything is in order.
[17:58] Nothing to report.
>> Thank you, sir.
[18:03] Comments, questions for Mr.
Mr. G, project coordinator. Thank you,
[18:08] Mayor. Um crews have started on the curb
rake portion of the paving project. So,
[18:13] I imagine those have those tomorrow. Uh
the asphalt contractors ready to start
[18:19] right away. So they'll have about 3 4
days worth of work and then come back
[18:23] and adjust all the casting. So it's not
a very big project. Shouldn't take long.
[18:27] So uh also the contractor started on our
west main and south long project. Um
[18:34] they're having they're doing the water
main portion of it right now. They're
[18:39] their
structures for the drainage. They can't
[18:43] get until the end of September. So,
they're going to come back, then they
[18:47] get the water part done, then come back
in September and get that uh portion
[18:51] completed. So, I'll do all done before
the snowflies and get good time for
[18:57] asphalt. Um, you were handed out today a
part of my zoning part.
[19:04] There is an uh plan commission will hold
a public hearing on 8:25 and 4:30
[19:10] concerning a cell tower rise cell tower
right between the fire department and
[19:16] the justice center.
I believe it's not what it says on the
[19:20] air, but that's okay. We know where it's
at. Um so they will uh hold that hearing
[19:26] right there for planning commission
meeting Tuesday. Also, you're giving out
[19:30] a thing which it's on the next uh piece
of agenda here. The Historic
[19:36] Preservation Commission did move to
recommend the council that the mausoleum
[19:42] be removed from the local landmarks
list. I handed you out a copy of that
[19:47] legislation that deals with that and
highlighted that commission may
[19:50] recommend that council remove that
landmark from the landmarks list and no
[19:54] longer meet the criteria of this
chapter.
[20:00] That's all I have.
Any comments or questions for Mr. Gard
[20:08] we may say a word about the CSX
crossings that you know we really don't
[20:12] have much control. I don't know we've
been in contact with with CSX but you
[20:16] got any on that?
>> So what they've done is especially
[20:20] across Gamble they've already completed
the main street crossing. So they're
[20:25] replacing all the rail.
The rails I don't know remember the
[20:29] length of it, but it's starting at the
um north end of Main Street crossing and
[20:34] CSX.
They're that whole piece of rail goes
[20:38] all the way through Gamble and all the
way through Smiley. So when they lay
[20:42] that in, they do not want to join
in the in the crossing. So for protect
[20:49] that particular one, they have to cross
close both of them down. They're
[20:53] replacing of the rail. So they'll lay
those in, redo the whole crossings, and
[20:58] then open things back up. So that's the
reason why they're doing both of them at
[21:01] the same time. They started they're
starting out, I think, this week out on
[21:06] the north side of town street and
[21:14] » street on the west.
>> So they will be moving in town and it's
[21:19] going to be a pain, but
it is what it is.
[21:24] Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. And the timing is
kind of rough for school starting. You
[21:28] know, there are a number of folks that
drive both State Street and West. So
[21:33] hopefully that'll be completed as soon
as possible, but we do not have any
[21:38] control over that other than to
communicate with them, let them know our
[21:42] desires.
So hopefully that'll be done quick.
[21:47] All right. Any other comments or
questions?
[21:51] All right, look forward to new business.
Uh, as Mr. you guys alluded to, there's
[21:55] a letter of recommendation
uh from the Shelby Historic Preservation
[22:00] Commission concerning the Oakland
Cemetery Moselum
[22:04] and
to take action upon that.
[22:14] Mayor, I move that we formally remove
the Oakland Mausoleum located within
[22:19] Oakland Cemetery uh from the city of
Shel's historic global landmark
[22:23] laboratory. Second,
[22:29] » we have a motion by Mr. Martin and a
second by Mr. Roberts that we formally
[22:36] remove the Ontario Moselum from the
local historic landmark inventory here
[22:41] in the city of Shelby. approval.
Understood.
[22:46] » Okay. Discussed, Mr. Rob.
>> Um,
[22:51] under section D here said the commission
may recommend council remove the
[22:54] landmarks list
properties that no longer meet the
[22:58] criteria of the chapter. How exactly
does this no longer meet the criteria of
[23:04] the historical comm?
Um, you know, they labeled that out in
[23:11] this
They've had to remove two of the main
[23:14] towers. Um the other two were scheduled
to be removed just because they
[23:19] deteriorated so bad that they have to
come down. Um and then at that point
[23:23] there's really nothing left of the
significance. They just want they've got
[23:29] a project to do something to get those
crips covered up and protect those who
[23:34] are resting in hope for peace and so
forth.
[23:38] What is the plan going forward? Then as
far as the crips are concerned,
[23:43] » they have a um a plan to basically build
a building on top of that
[23:49] and with some different features. Uh
they've been working with Chris Rand
[23:54] local historian to do some things on the
inside to make that keep the history of
[23:59] the building alive inside of there. So I
would the listening to the comm historic
[24:07] preservation commission and some of the
local historians and the cemetery
[24:10] committee has done a fine job I think of
trying to preserve that history.
[24:17] I've been I've been following this um
for quite a while and and I know the
[24:22] reason I'm asking these questions is so
people have an understanding why and
[24:27] where
[24:32] » it is interesting to note for the record
that while they
[24:37] do
uh recommend that we remove the the
[24:42] mausoleum
um they
[24:46] are against the whole barn enclosure.
Um, so I just like to point that out.
[24:52] But, um, how how does this, if anything,
affect, uh, our ability to get grants to
[24:59] help out with the project itself?
[25:05] » Um, as a reminder, um, Don Gates had
brought the cemetery issue up a few
[25:10] years ago about the situation it was in.
There was one board member that was on
[25:15] the board at the time, John Hancock. He
was a president, the only board member.
[25:19] And so there were some issues with the
cemetery. And so myself, Mr. Ensman, Mr.
[25:23] Trump from who volunteered, I don't
know, three years ago to join that
[25:27] board. And um since then, um we've, you
know, adjusted the rates for different
[25:34] things dealing with the cemetery. We've
um paved the $245,000
[25:40] in paving. You know, we've fixed some
flooding issues in the northwest corner
[25:48] of the cemetery, but of course, the
biggest issue is the mausoleum as Joe
[25:51] was talking about over the years. You
know, we had a lot of water damage and
[25:56] it just really ate the exterior of the
structure away. And so John Edmond, he's
[26:04] he's you know taken the lead in um you
know getting a design for the exterior,
[26:09] you know, so you can talk about it in a
moment. Um but he's put a lot of time in
[26:15] into this and we've worked with the
historical commission, Christina Drain
[26:19] and others, you know, to really come up
with the best um the best design that we
[26:25] could come up with. We ran like last
year we went to the Miller Foundation
[26:30] and time for $130,000 grant. We received
it. Okay. So, that's very helpful. The
[26:36] community raised approximately $5,000 as
well. Um,
[26:42] you know, we've had some other other
folks jump in and, you know, give some
[26:47] money to the cause. So, I think we're
sitting at 160,000ish right now, you
[26:51] know, to be able to do this. And so um
if you have me John or Brian we can
[26:57] answer more in depth questions if you
have any
[27:03] one thing to add that to that might
speak to council Martin's point um this
[27:09] is an enclosure so you talk about
getting grants if someone would want to
[27:14] do the project of a complete renovation
and wanted them to work towards
[27:19] you know getting raising the money and
doing that project it would be possible
[27:23] you just take build it off. Um just the
the funds were not available. Uh we
[27:28] couldn't couldn't raise that kind of
money for the time being. So it's being
[27:33] preserved and hopefully someday that
would be a possibility.
[27:38] » I guess that's my concern that you know
so we're putting this enclosure over
[27:43] there which I completely that's fine.
But if we did want to or somebody wanted
[27:50] to get grants to do a restoration
of what is underneath,
[27:58] not having it as a historic landmark
would be a negative against those
[28:03] grants.
Correct.
[28:08] » It is still listed on the national
[28:14] opportunities at that point.
There is a there is a $5,000 grant. We
[28:20] didn't meet the deadline. Um we just had
not reported fully on that when
[28:25] Christina D brought it to our attention.
So Christina is going to be, you know,
[28:30] for this next round. She's going to be
applying for that as well as we're going
[28:35] to revisit some other opportunities, you
know, that we went with last year that
[28:40] we did not, you know, we weren't part of
receiving any of those funds. Um but
[28:46] whatever monies we have left over from
from our project um we are going to hand
[28:51] off to Christina drain for her to you
know develop the inside of the structure
[28:58] to possibly you know contain like a like
a probably like a little museum like
[29:04] what we have right outside the doors
here in the hallways. Um um
[29:18] I guess my
point is is it not a little premature to
[29:23] take it off of our local registry at
this juncture. We really don't know
[29:28] because we don't cross we don't know if
this this over structure is going to be
[29:34] more a long-term solution or a temporary
solution. And we won't know that until
[29:40] you know kind of the chips fall where
they may. Is it premature to remove it
[29:46] from the local designation?
>> I guess question.
[29:51] » Yeah, I I understand Mr. Martin's
concern. You know,
[29:55] I think we should go with the historical
commission's recommendation at this time
[30:00] and just move forward. Some of the other
things they're looking at, we still
[30:04] there's 240 crypts, 220 are filled. So,
if we can get the building looking nice
[30:11] and the internal structure the um but we
still have 20 openings if anybody in the
[30:18] future would like to be buried there um
where the four towers are being removed
[30:23] the two already removed you can see the
the area of the pads where the two
[30:27] towers on the east side used to be
Christina Dr come up with the idea of
[30:31] possibly you know incorporating an area
within each tower where there's room to
[30:36] place urns you know to further you know
in case might be placed in there
[30:51] still
[30:55] as well.
[31:03] Any further discussion?
>> Just [clears throat] I mean we begin
[31:08] through here I guess I was asking
Why the recommendations and the key
[31:14] reasons for recommendations are severe
structural deterioration, water damage,
[31:18] public safety concerns,
loss of
[31:23] architectural integrity. I mean,
[31:29] there's nothing that says that we have
to do it. I mean, there's no reason. But
[31:33] by taking this off of the registry,
>> local
[31:37] » the local registry, there's no
I mean it doesn't help or hinder it in
[31:45] any way. Correct.
[31:50] » I guess just in being in some of the
meetings I think it's the idea if you
[31:56] have something on the local registry
should be local registry worthy and they
[31:59] don't feel that in this present
condition it's local registry worthy.
[32:05] It's it's like a guy that looked at the
hammer, the hatchet that George
[32:11] Washington chucked on the cherry tree
and had the museum. They said, "That's
[32:15] the hammer." I'm sorry. That is the
hatchet that George Washington used to
[32:19] chuck out the cherry tree. He said,
"Yes, sir. That's the hammer." Three
[32:22] handles and two new heads, but that's
that is that is that is a hatchet. So,
[32:27] uh, what we have out there is not the
original,
[32:33] you know, for for good reason. And I
just don't think it has local registry
[32:37] this national registry original roots. I
think it still opens up the idea for
[32:43] grants. But I think historicity is
trying to be maintained by closing it,
[32:47] protecting it, uh being able to do some
things. I saw rendition of what could be
[32:51] done on the inside, protecting the
history of that mausoleum. So I I do
[32:56] that's kind of why they're moving
forward with this that it's no longer
[33:00] really something that they should be
championing at this point.
[33:04] » Are we opening up that proverbial can of
worms by taking it off and then the to
[33:09] the national and says hang on a second
you know if they took it off the local
[33:14] registry should we can they look at that
and say go ahead and try to take it off
[33:18] of the national registry. Is that
something that can happen too? And then
[33:21] that thing just sitting there not on any
registry at all
[33:27] first.
>> My guess is in its condition and this
[33:32] when the nationals come around if they
ever do anything they're going to take
[33:34] it off.
>> So I mean this doesn't meet any of the
[33:39] criteria right
>> that's on our ordinance anymore.
[33:48] Once
tonight, once we take this off the
[33:52] registry, the next step, Mr. Ensman's
got to get the county to approve some
[33:58] the engineering design. Once it's
approved, then our our builder can set a
[34:04] date to build that. We want to get that
done as quickly as possible before we go
[34:08] back into the winter cycle. Once we get
the builder to decide when he's going to
[34:13] do it, Joe Lyens locally, he's going to
take the west towers down for free like
[34:17] he did the east to house and saved us a
lot of money. When the west towers are
[34:21] down, essentially the only thing left of
the exterior of that entire building,
[34:26] the roof's going to be gone, the four
towers are going to be gone. Only the
[34:29] north and south side walls are going to
be there. And they're in bad shape, too.
[34:33] Um, but we decided to leave those in
place. So, the structure, Mr.
[34:39] has, you know, seen the design through,
you know, it's going to cover everything
[34:44] and make sure that the 220 folks that
are tuned in there are protected in the
[34:49] next, you know, winter cycle. You know,
it's our belief that if if it goes
[34:54] through another winter cycle, um those
towels could fall down. You know, um Bob
[34:59] Dean originally a couple years ago, you
know, he had some safety concerns with
[35:04] the exterior property of that structure
and We spent $3,000, I believe, to put a
[35:12] fence, a safety fence around us so
children, you know, wouldn't go up to it
[35:15] and, you know, get cloer by falling off,
you know, the tops of those towers. And
[35:20] so, you know, as soon as Joe Legs was
ready, we took those that safety fencing
[35:24] down and he took down those two towers.
But now the west towers are in really
[35:29] bad shape. And so, we do not want to see
that. It's like, well, we need, you
[35:33] know, to make sure, you know, we comply
with what the historical commission
[35:37] would like to do. So, Mr. can go and get
those engineering um approvals done so
[35:43] we can start the construction.
>> Well, I I
[35:49] I have to side with the the historic
commission on this. Um
[35:55] reason being um
to build the building um as it stands
[36:01] right now um they would have to go
against their guidelines to approve the
[36:07] structure that needs to be built there
to protect that building. Um so removing
[36:14] that removes them from that process and
allows that to continue which is going
[36:20] to be very helpful um to continue the
project. It's something that has to be
[36:26] done. It's going to be done sooner or
later or the whole thing is going to be
[36:30] on the ground and then we have a huge
problem. So removing it from their
[36:35] responsibility I think is a very
responsible for thing for them to do.
[36:41] what it has to be done.
>> All right. So, connecting the dots, the
[36:47] historical commission is a barrier at
this time to actually putting up the
[36:51] whole Bomb Brook building and this is a
way for us to take it out of their
[36:55] purview. So, they're no longer a barrier
to what actually needs done. So, we've
[37:01] been dancing around this, making it
sound like it was the historical
[37:06] commission's idea, but let's just call
brass tax and brass tax. The historical
[37:12] commission doesn't want the pullbar
building. And so, if we don't remove it
[37:15] from their purview, then they're not
going to approve the pullbar building
[37:20] and then it will have to be appealed to
us and it will come back to us and the
[37:23] whole thing. So, all right. Now that we
got that cleared up,
[37:28] » that's they know at the last commission
meeting they had a timeline and said
[37:32] they didn't approve it. It was
automatically approved. They took no
[37:36] action during that. So it's
automatically approved and then they
[37:40] said we're just going to make motion to
send this to council. So it's because it
[37:45] doesn't meet the criteria and and so
forth. So, they actually worked with the
[37:50] cemetery board on somewhat of a design
for the building to go over just to to
[37:56] try to make it something, but it's not
what it was. So,
[38:01] » we we've been working very closely with
the historical commission on this. Um,
[38:07] letting them all know where we're at,
what we need to do. So, we appreciate
[38:10] the help of the historical commission.
One of the things I do want to say, if
[38:15] you go out there and look from the east
side, inside um the west towers started
[38:22] falling in I don't know 5 10 years ago
and and it somehow connected to the roof
[38:27] at all and they built this kind of
structure of beams on top of beams all
[38:31] the way up from the floor to the ceiling
you know supporting this um our concern
[38:36] is if it goes through one more winter
cycle and everything caves in and it
[38:40] cracks those crifts open like Mr. Rob
said, "We're going to we're going to be
[38:45] dealing with something bigger."
So, we're our number one goal, I mean,
[38:49] Mr. Cone and Mr. Edmond all along has
been to see this through to make sure
[38:54] that that we protect those crypts.
That's the number one goal here. And so,
[38:58] I we think we've come up with a the best
with the money we've raised, the best um
[39:05] design we could with the money we
raised.
[39:09] Thank you. Any further discussion?
[39:14] Roll call on the motion to formally
remove Mr.
[39:19] » Mr. Rob.
>> Yay.
[39:20] » Mr. Roberts.
>> Yay.
[39:22] » Mr. Reese,
>> yay.
[39:23] » Mr. Martin,
>> yay.
[39:24] » Mr. Yay.
>> That motion passes. Ladies and
[39:27] gentlemen, any other new business to be
brought before council this evening?
[39:33] Any unfinished business before council?
Let's move forward with legislation. Mr.
[39:41] Orders number eight, 2026. Transfer
appropriations for the year 2026 and
[39:46] declaring an emergency.
>> That rules are requiring that orders be
[39:51] two separate occasions be suspended.
>> Second,
[39:56] we have a motion by Mr. Roberts, a
second by Mr. Martin that the rule
[40:00] requiring an preceptation be suspended.
Discussion, Mr.
[40:06] Uh my agenda says for the year 2025. Is
that correct?
[40:14] » Uh no that was uh error on the agenda
but the ordinance does say
[40:21] » thank you for
>> you're looking for an evil eye award.
[40:27] We'll give it to you.
>> No just avoid some confusion. I'm just
[40:35] all right. In ter discussion on the
motion to suspend
[40:40] roll, please
>> Mr. Rob.
[40:42] » Yay.
>> Mr. Roberts,
[40:44] » Mr. Reese,
>> yay.
[40:45] » Mr. Martin,
>> that motion passes.
[40:50] » Passes the ordinance.
>> Second.
[40:53] » We have a motion on Mr. Robinson, a
second by Mr. Martin for the passage of
[40:56] ordinance number 8, 2026. Discussion.
Mr.
[41:02] » Thanks, sir. Uh most of this is just
housekeeping. We're we're getting to
[41:06] that part of the the year where some
lines are starting to uh run a little
[41:11] low. Um and so we're pling them with
other lines. A couple of the the major
[41:16] things the fire department needs to do a
software conversion. I think it's 12 or
[41:22] 13 grand. Wasn't on the the uh
wasn't on the the agenda appropriations.
[41:31] And so that came up and chemicals were
just a lot higher than they were last
[41:36] year with the Blackboard Commons and
prices just going up and a few other
[41:42] administrative stuff to move around.
Nothing too surprising with this.
[41:47] » Thank you. Any further discussion?
Roll call. [clears throat]
[41:52] » Mr. Rob,
>> yay.
[41:54] » Mr. Roberts, yay.
>> Mr. Reese,
[41:56] » yay.
>> Mr. Martin, yay.
[41:58] » Mr. Clark,
>> yay.
[41:59] » That motion passes.
[42:05] Orders number 9, 2026 amending section
1044.09
[42:11] set receiving rate and eched chapter 104
sewer charges of the codified ordinances
[42:17] of the city of Shelby, Ohio. For three
second
[42:23] motion by Mr. Roberts and second by Mr.
for the passage of ordinance number 900
[42:28] I'm sorry first reading rather of
ordinance number 9 2026 discussion
[42:38] » no call please
>> Mr. Rob
[42:40] » yay
>> Mr. Roberts
[42:41] » y
>> Mr. Reese
[42:43] » yay
>> Mr. Martin
[42:44] » yay
>> Mr. You're welcome.
[42:45] » Yeah.
>> 29 2026 passes first reading.
[42:50] Nothing for miscellaneous business. Is
there any miscellaneous business to be
[42:54] brought before council this?
[42:58] » Mr. Mark mayor council adjournment.
>> Second.
[43:02] » Have a motion by Mr. Martin and second
by Mr. Mclofflin for adjournment. Roll
[43:07] call please.
>> Mr. Rob.
[43:08] » Yay.
>> Mr. Roberts.
[43:10] » Yay.
>> Mr. Reese.
[43:11] » Yay.
>> Mr. Martin.
[43:13] » Yay.
>> Mr. W. Yay.
[43:15] » That motion passes. Council adjourn to
7:42. Thank you, gentlemen.