1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,560 over here. Just be careful. >> I think nobody else is here yet. 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:13,200 » Do we need to second that? >> I'll second it. 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:22,279 » And then we're going to go through the minutes of our June 5th 20 no of our um 4 00:00:18,080 --> 00:00:22,279 I think it was March meeting. 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,920 Has everybody had a chance? March. >> March and June. 6 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:30,400 » What is it now? It's September. >> It's June, right? It's the June 5th 7 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:36,320 meeting. Yeah. >> Got it. Okay. Yeah. 8 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:39,559 » So, if you all had a chance to look through that, 9 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:46,320 » that was the one that you were you looked through that Dan Dan had comment. 10 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,399 » Yeah. >> Yeah. 11 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:55,440 » What was Dan's comment? >> It was there should be an L and filter. 12 00:00:54,160 --> 00:01:00,879 » That's a reasonable comment. >> That's a fair comment. That was about 13 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,760 » I mean there were a couple other things but anyway they've been corrected. 14 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,320 » Great. >> Okay. Good. 15 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:10,720 » All right. >> So if give you a second and then we'll 16 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:15,040 move on. >> I read that stuff. I mean that stuff was 17 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:18,840 on the the last thing you saw. 18 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:37,759 This we've had before, right? A new one. >> This is This is This is This is 25. They 19 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:46,079 always We always get an invoice for the prior years from June 25 to 20 00:01:44,479 --> 00:01:50,320 » gohead. >> No, you didn't get this. 21 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:55,759 » Not this one. Okay. So, I'm going to Can we approve of 22 00:01:54,399 --> 00:02:00,079 the minutes? >> I shall move. 23 00:01:57,119 --> 00:02:04,799 » Very good. All right. We're moving on to the um Suffach County Water Authority 24 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:10,399 part of the meeting and Joe Pakornney is on board. So, good 25 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,760 afternoon, Joe. >> Hi, Joe. 26 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:18,720 » Hello, everybody. How are you? Happy Labor Day weekend almost. 27 00:02:15,599 --> 00:02:25,360 » Can't even believe it. Yes. So, what do you got for us today, Joe? 28 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:31,200 » Well, uh, I guess a couple things. The, uh, the thing that we were talking about 29 00:02:28,959 --> 00:02:34,560 last meeting had to do with delinquent accounts 30 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:39,440 and how we would handle those going forward. 31 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:44,400 I have been in contact with Tom Crouch. I believe that I I think from what it 32 00:02:42,319 --> 00:02:50,319 sounds like from his response that you folks and the town board had a get 33 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:58,560 together of some kind to discuss it and he came back to me and it sounds to me 34 00:02:53,599 --> 00:03:01,920 like the um the way forward and and correct me if I'm wrong because I'm not 35 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:07,440 sure I totally understood his response but it sounds like if there's a 36 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:13,280 delinquent account and it exceeds our uh you know gets to the point where we 37 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:17,760 could be uh shutting water off. We would turn it over to you guys 38 00:03:16,319 --> 00:03:20,480 or would you want us to turn, you know, I'm not sure if you want us to go 39 00:03:18,879 --> 00:03:25,920 forward with the turn off or whether you want us to to uh just turn it over to 40 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:30,560 you. But in any event, if the person was essentially delinquent and didn't pay 41 00:03:27,599 --> 00:03:35,680 their bill, we would deduct that from our uh the remittance that we made to to 42 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:40,080 you folks. uh and then you would deal with the 43 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:43,519 delinquent account. Am I correct? 44 00:03:40,799 --> 00:03:47,760 » Hold on to the fine. >> I have to say that I have been confused 45 00:03:45,519 --> 00:03:51,120 on this and I did ask Tom for clarification. 46 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:56,640 » Yeah. So did [clears throat] I. >> So I don't think that anything has been 47 00:03:54,239 --> 00:03:59,519 uh definitively >> set. Okay. 48 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:05,200 » Because there were two there were two options. one what that I thought and 49 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:10,239 hoped for was that Suffach County Water Authority would be the agency to shut 50 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:14,560 water off. >> That's fine. We can do that. 51 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:19,840 » Then there was also discussion about taking that delinquent account and 52 00:04:17,359 --> 00:04:23,680 attaching it to the tax bill and collecting it that way. 53 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:28,320 » Right. We we talked about that last meeting and I I suggested to you folks 54 00:04:25,919 --> 00:04:32,400 that you could that's that's the way our other managed water districts do handle 55 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:36,400 it. >> Uh right not necessarily meaning that 56 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:43,440 you have to handle it that way. I mean we can you know it could be again uh h 57 00:04:41,199 --> 00:04:49,280 how how you get the money is is up to you but the point of the matter is is 58 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:53,759 that we don't want to be the collection agency 59 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:59,360 you know for the town. The town is our customer or the district is our customer 60 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:04,320 and we would like to be compensated for the water that the customers of the 61 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:08,800 district consume. Uh and if there's a person that doesn't 62 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:13,360 pay their bill, uh you know, we'll we'll follow our 63 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:17,440 normal procedures, but our normal procedures would then go to lean. The 64 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:22,400 pro, you know, the the the bill would go to lean if they didn't pay their bill. 65 00:05:19,919 --> 00:05:27,199 And I don't know that you guys want us to do that. I you know you could you 66 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:31,759 could let us do that if you want but I have a feeling that you'd rather handle 67 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:35,919 it yourselves and try to get >> I think at that point was where we 68 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:37,680 decided to adhere it to the tax bill. >> Mhm. That's what I thought. 69 00:05:37,039 --> 00:05:41,199 » You want to weigh in? >> That was the alternative. Yeah. I mean 70 00:05:39,199 --> 00:05:45,280 it's it's basically a lean. You just put it on the tax bill yourselves. But the 71 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:49,520 point is is that we would deduct that payment. We would deduct that delinquent 72 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:53,520 bill from the money that we remit to you at the end of the year. So we'd have to 73 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:57,919 cover it basically. So >> you would have to cover it, right? But 74 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:03,080 eventually it would be paid if you did put it on the tax bill. That money would 75 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,080 come back to the district. 76 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:09,680 Amber, is that a is that some kind of process that we have to really think 77 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:14,639 through? >> Yeah. Um I just I feel like that just 78 00:06:12,479 --> 00:06:19,360 complicates things a little bit. So how does it how do you handle it with other 79 00:06:16,479 --> 00:06:25,520 districts? So if someone doesn't pay, they do lean the property, but then what 80 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:29,919 happens? Are you deducting it from? >> Now, Amber, in other districts, in other 81 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:33,440 managed districts, uh, we simply deducted from what we 82 00:06:31,759 --> 00:06:36,720 remit to the district. >> Okay. All right. As long as it's a 83 00:06:35,199 --> 00:06:40,880 similar process. >> Well, that's what happened. It's our 84 00:06:39,280 --> 00:06:45,120 fault, Amber, when we crafted the agreement. 85 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:49,199 uh we I I forget whether it was an and or a may that was not indicated properly 86 00:06:47,759 --> 00:06:53,680 in the agreement. >> And so that's why we're that's why I'm 87 00:06:51,039 --> 00:06:57,759 asking for you folks to make this agreement like it is with our other 88 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:01,840 managed water districts. >> That's what that's where I would like to 89 00:06:59,199 --> 00:07:09,039 get to. And then what happens if I guess we just 90 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:13,440 if someone they finally pay up before you know like okay they don't wait until 91 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:15,360 the property sold then we just keep the money here. 92 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:20,560 » Right. >> Right. Yeah. If they pay up after we've 93 00:07:17,599 --> 00:07:23,039 deducted it then that money is yours. >> Okay. 94 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:26,479 » And if they pay up before that then we turn them back on. They're back in 95 00:07:24,639 --> 00:07:30,800 business and they're a customer. And that money then becomes part of your 96 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:34,080 remittance with the portion of it that's attributable to the district becomes 97 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:40,000 part of your remittance. >> So can you add a line to the tax bill 98 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:44,479 that says delinquent water or something? >> Um I don't know the the mechanics of how 99 00:07:42,319 --> 00:07:51,199 that happens. Um, but I think what we need to do is let Thomas then finish 100 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:55,440 working with your legal department to go ahead and craft the necessary language 101 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:58,800 so we can do an amendment to the contract, 102 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:03,599 » which I thought we had kind of done and I went I got back to I responded to 103 00:08:01,599 --> 00:08:07,360 Thomas and I haven't heard from him and that was about a month ago. 104 00:08:05,759 --> 00:08:11,440 » So I think we need to really follow up on that and press forward. 105 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:21,360 » I'm going to bump that on my list. Um so Joe the the um just going back to the 106 00:08:17,199 --> 00:08:25,840 process that this still is the request to shut water off is still being made to 107 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:29,520 Suffach County Water Authority. Correct. So we're following all the 108 00:08:27,919 --> 00:08:36,560 processes up to that point. You you shut the water 109 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:42,719 off. We then um the town decides how to collect the money. What? How? 110 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:46,720 » But I think it's that process that I we were not clear about and it seemed like 111 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:50,399 you didn't want to be involved with like shutting the the water off. So 112 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:54,320 » I we don't we don't have a problem with doing that. We can do that if if uh 113 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:56,720 again again a lot of times when we shut the water off then people pay their 114 00:08:55,839 --> 00:09:02,640 bills >> of course. And so I would suggest that 115 00:08:59,680 --> 00:09:07,360 we let's let's continue that process. Let the water authority do that. uh if 116 00:09:05,519 --> 00:09:11,120 the people pay their bills then it doesn't then it's no longer a delinquent 117 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:16,640 account then it's all settled and nothing has to be done. 118 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:21,760 » I think that the point might be you shut the water off on Tuesday they want to 119 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:26,560 pay the bill on Wednesday they are under the impression that they are going to 120 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:31,360 pay Suffach County water the bill. So then you will take that money and send 121 00:09:29,279 --> 00:09:36,800 it back to Westneck Water or you would take that money and that would be 122 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:39,040 included in our in end of the year invoice. 123 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,000 » Yes, it would be >> money coming to us. 124 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:45,839 » Yeah. Theoretically this is happening before the invoice goes out for the year 125 00:09:43,839 --> 00:09:51,040 but you know if it was after that it'd be for the next year but uh yes if it's 126 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:55,279 before the end of the year then that money would be included in the total 127 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:59,120 revenues that we generated for the year. we would deduct our management fee out 128 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:04,240 of that and we would remit to the town or to the district the uh the balance. 129 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:09,680 » So the question would be when when would it be posted on the tax bill? Would it 130 00:10:07,279 --> 00:10:12,880 be stay pending on Suffach County Water Authority until a certain date and then 131 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,200 it's on the tax bill? >> Right. 132 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:18,480 » Because if they do pay a week later then >> Right. 133 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:23,040 » Yeah. We'll have to have a you know >> the mechanics has to Yeah. with 134 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:28,079 » Yeah. It's not an instantaneous process. In other words, you know, you know, they 135 00:10:25,839 --> 00:10:32,480 become a delinquent account, we tell you about it, then you've got to go through, 136 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:38,320 you know, when your taxes are due, >> uh, you have to post put it on their on 137 00:10:34,399 --> 00:10:41,760 their bill. Uh, and again, you know, in my experience, most people when we shut 138 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:46,800 the water off, they they pay the bill. But there are some folks that just shut 139 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:51,279 the water off and I don't know if they leave town or what, but 140 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:54,399 » Well, they have to have their water. >> Yeah. Well, if they're there, 141 00:10:52,959 --> 00:10:57,440 » they get the money somehow. >> Is is there 142 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:00,160 » is there a charge for turning it back on? 143 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,800 » Yes. >> So, that has to be stipulated some. 144 00:11:01,839 --> 00:11:08,160 » Yeah. >> Disconnect charge as well. 145 00:11:06,959 --> 00:11:11,360 » Sorry, John. >> Is there a charge to shut the water off? 146 00:11:09,839 --> 00:11:14,880 » Yeah. In other words, has there charge at each end disconnect? 147 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:19,279 » Oh, I bet. I don't know. Um, >> is there a charge to shut the water off? 148 00:11:17,519 --> 00:11:25,480 » No, I think so. No, no, >> no. The the the charge is to turn the 149 00:11:22,079 --> 00:11:25,480 water back on. 150 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:35,600 » All right. So then, as it stands now, can we verbally say that we are 151 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:39,600 expecting Suffach County Water Authority to take it to that shut off point and 152 00:11:38,399 --> 00:11:44,160 then we're going to work out the mechanics of payment? 153 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:50,079 » Can we can we leave it at that and say that that that is where we are? That's 154 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:53,519 fine with me. I It really it's just that it's a minor change to the way we're 155 00:11:52,079 --> 00:11:57,360 operating now. >> And basically what it is is that now 156 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:02,800 we're going to deduct the money out of your annual payment. 157 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:04,240 Uh and before we were we were trying to collect the money, 158 00:12:03,839 --> 00:12:07,519 » right? >> We were holding the money on our we were 159 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:11,920 holding the pass due amount on our account. And uh you know again my 160 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:15,519 finance department pointed this out to me. We went back and looked at the 161 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:19,839 agreement and we said, "Well, that's that's not the way we want to operate. 162 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:23,519 Uh, the way we operate should be the way we do it with all of our managed 163 00:12:21,279 --> 00:12:27,519 districts." And if it works for you guys, I would I would appreciate it if 164 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:31,839 we could make that change. >> And what I'll do is I'll work with Tom 165 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:35,200 if it's okay, you know, if you guys can get back to me and let me know if it's 166 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:38,240 okay. But if it is, then I'll work with Tom to change the language in the 167 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:43,440 agreement. It'll require a small amendment of the agreement language to 168 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:46,240 codify this. >> Yeah, absolutely. 169 00:12:45,519 --> 00:12:49,600 » Okay, >> go for it. 170 00:12:46,959 --> 00:12:54,440 » And then with we have to work together. We have to sit down and figure out 171 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,440 » and 172 00:12:55,839 --> 00:12:58,839 » yes. 173 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:08,880 » Okay. And um there's there's something to that uh that is really important. I 174 00:13:05,519 --> 00:13:15,839 think we mentioned it before and that is we need to we need to be have a regular 175 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:21,360 a scheduled uh 176 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:24,880 what not invoicing but we have to be told regularly when an account is 177 00:13:23,279 --> 00:13:28,320 delinquent. >> Yes, [snorts] that's that's part of it. 178 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:32,160 So if we have a delinquent account we need to notify you. [clears throat] 179 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:36,800 » You need Yes. And sooner rather than later. 180 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:40,800 » Absolutely. So that may be something to work out with Stephanie 181 00:13:38,959 --> 00:13:42,959 Hannah. Well, 182 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:48,720 » there must be a similar process for other districts. Yeah. So if it's like a 183 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:52,399 month later or, you know, I probably not a week later, but whatever that is, it 184 00:13:50,639 --> 00:13:56,519 makes sense to be consistent across the board for them. 185 00:13:53,519 --> 00:13:56,519 » Mhm. 186 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:03,279 » Okay. because then some letter would have to 187 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:08,079 go out to the homeowner that you are delinquent, therefore this will be 188 00:14:04,959 --> 00:14:13,199 posted on your tax bill, etc. >> Right. Well, they send the letters with 189 00:14:10,079 --> 00:14:17,199 regards to um delinquency on their end. >> I know, but once it reaches once a 190 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:21,120 problem, we have to then let them know how that's going to play out. 191 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:25,760 » Yeah. >> Joe, are you still with us? 192 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:29,040 » Yeah, but I'm I'm going back and forth. It's blinking on and off. Is that Is 193 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,639 that you folks over there? Can you hear me? 194 00:14:29,839 --> 00:14:33,360 » We can hear you. >> We can hear you. Yeah, 195 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:38,959 » we can't see you, but we can hear you. >> For some reason, Whoa. 196 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:42,320 Uh, for some reason, my screen is blinking on and off, and I'm not sure 197 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,399 what that is. >> Well, service out there is not the 198 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,680 greatest. >> And now I'm blurry. [laughter] 199 00:14:46,399 --> 00:14:52,480 » Very blurry. >> Very blurry. Yeah. 200 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:54,959 » Who makes the decision to pull a plug? Well, right now 201 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,680 » squad does. >> They make the decision based. 202 00:14:56,399 --> 00:15:02,000 » Well, they they're going to do it, which is absolutely logical. Yes. 203 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:04,240 » But I mean, who says go ahead and do it? >> That's we're giving them that permission 204 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,959 right now. >> We're not involved in that piece of the 205 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,560 process. >> There must be a standard that they use 206 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:15,600 for all >> is it automatic with a certain amount of 207 00:15:13,199 --> 00:15:16,639 time or amount of money? >> Yeah. 208 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,600 » Okay. >> Yep. And it's all laid out on their web 209 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:23,040 page, too. >> Yeah. I know. Yep. So we don't touch 210 00:15:22,079 --> 00:15:26,639 you. >> We don't have No. 211 00:15:24,399 --> 00:15:28,959 » So but the hard part is to come. Right. >> Right. [laughter] 212 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:33,720 » When we go to collect. >> Yeah. 213 00:15:29,519 --> 00:15:33,720 » Yeah. That'll be our 214 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,639 » All right. Well, >> I'm sorry. I'm sorry about the blurry 215 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:42,800 view here. I'm not sure what what's causing it. I can I can hop off and hop 216 00:15:41,199 --> 00:15:47,959 back on if it's important. >> No, we know that I'm blurry. Okay. 217 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:57,120 » Um anything else? Um I know that we are still awaiting site plan review 218 00:15:54,399 --> 00:16:00,480 confirmation. >> From what I understand it's now with 219 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:04,560 » it was approved on Monday. >> Yes. 220 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:09,279 » So what are how are we going forward with that? Is it are we ready to 221 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:13,120 » um >> to jump ahead with the project? 222 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:16,959 » Yeah. So Southern County Water Authority would like finish up whatever building 223 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:22,079 permits need to be obtained. So they'll work with the building department and 224 00:16:18,399 --> 00:16:25,360 move forward. Okay. >> Yeah. 225 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:29,120 » So, are you are you there with that? >> Yeah, we'll do that. Well, you know, my 226 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:33,839 chief engineer is uh he's on top of the process. So, uh I'm not sure if there's 227 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:36,880 a meeting coming up where we have to be involved with doing a presentation to 228 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:45,959 the building department or whether this is just a plan review and approval. Um 229 00:16:41,199 --> 00:16:45,959 whatever it is, we'll we'll do it. 230 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:51,680 Yeah, I think you already came to us with the with this with the plan. 231 00:16:50,959 --> 00:16:55,360 » Oh, yeah. >> Town board and it was approved. 232 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:58,320 » Yeah, it's my understanding the permit from the building department. You don't 233 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,959 have to do a presentation to the board. That part's all done. 234 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:05,280 » Yeah. >> Okay. 235 00:17:01,759 --> 00:17:09,679 » Yeah. And I think um there's two trees in the rightway that need to come down 236 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:12,160 for access. And I I believe uh public works is going to take those two down. 237 00:17:11,439 --> 00:17:16,160 » That's correct. >> Okay. 238 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:19,439 » Yeah. Yeah, the neighbor the neighbor notified us that he's going to put a 239 00:17:17,679 --> 00:17:22,400 fence up. >> We talked about it yesterday. I talked 240 00:17:21,199 --> 00:17:26,720 with the neighbor. >> Did you? Okay. 241 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:32,080 » The town engineer and uh the supervisor of department of um the road. 242 00:17:30,559 --> 00:17:38,480 Uh we sat down and we talked to the neighbors. They know what has to be done 243 00:17:34,799 --> 00:17:44,000 and they're in agreement with it. And um so we're we're moving we we have that 244 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:50,400 plan sort of in place and now that we've got the approval we just Kenny can just 245 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:55,360 go down take down the trees and then we can start redirecting 246 00:17:52,640 --> 00:18:03,120 the road. So we'll let you know the trees are down now. And um is that a is 247 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:07,360 that something Suffach County Water Authority will do? is at something that 248 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:12,320 we will do which is to extend the road beyond where it is right now and fix the 249 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:19,559 right of way. So I think that's in our I think that's 250 00:18:15,039 --> 00:18:19,559 our in our perfe 251 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:26,559 I'm happy to do minor little improvements but if this is road work uh 252 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:29,919 this is really something I think that you folks should be doing. 253 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:34,880 » Yep. especially due to the sensitive nature of this with the neighbors. 254 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:38,160 » Right now it's amicable. >> Great. I'm glad to hear that. 255 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:42,559 » They know what's going on. They're in agreement and it it's it's we're in a 256 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:48,480 good place with the neighbors. >> Great. Um [clears throat] 257 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:53,440 some of the concern is that once the right ofway is extended onto the 258 00:18:50,480 --> 00:19:02,240 property where those two trees were and will come down, it's a very sharp 45°ree 259 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:05,039 turn onto the onto the uh property where the [clears throat] you know the pump 260 00:19:03,679 --> 00:19:10,799 house is. So >> yeah, 261 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:16,480 » knowing what kind of is needed for the trucks to go down to could start the 262 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:22,080 project is an important part of this conversation. How big of an area 263 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:26,880 do those trucks need? Because right now they're just going down and taking the 264 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:30,400 corner off of the neighbors lot. Yep. >> So right now if they're going to go 265 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:34,640 straight and make a turn, >> that's that teetail needs to be laid 266 00:19:33,679 --> 00:19:38,960 out. Yeah. Um I'll have to check with my 267 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:42,160 engineers to make sure that we think we can get in there. Obviously, we're going 268 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:47,440 to have to bring a concrete truck in there when we pour the foundation. 269 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:52,960 » Uh and a small excavator to to, you know, install the foundation. So, I'll 270 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:56,880 have to have them take a look at it and make sure. I haven't heard that there's 271 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:59,200 going to be a problem with it. So, I'm hoping that we'll be able to navigate 272 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,720 it. >> Yeah. Well, I I don't think anybody 273 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:07,120 knows quite what what it's going to look like yet until we get the trees down and 274 00:20:04,559 --> 00:20:11,120 we actually establish where the road is. >> Then I think it'll become we think it's 275 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:19,039 going to become apparent. >> So maybe our DPW supervisor can get in 276 00:20:16,799 --> 00:20:22,240 contact with whoever on your end is going to 277 00:20:21,039 --> 00:20:24,080 » Tim Com. >> Yeah, 278 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,200 » Kil Commons. >> Yes, Tim Kil Commons. And I think 279 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:30,480 they've already been in contact with each other. 280 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:36,880 » Okay. Um, and then as time goes on, 281 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:42,720 you know, just for the maintenance of the uh filter, there are going to be 282 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:47,440 times when the filter media will have to be changed out. So, that will require a 283 00:20:45,919 --> 00:20:52,520 larger truck, too. So, we'll have to confirm that that truck can also make it 284 00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:52,520 down the driveway. 285 00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:55,799 » Okay. 286 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:04,720 And uh is there anything else that 287 00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:09,039 » No, I think that's it. If that you know, I'd just like to move this along, 288 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:12,480 » right? I know we would too. >> And [clears throat] you know, I think 289 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:15,200 we're all sorry that it it it took this long and that there it was this 290 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:22,960 complicated. >> We didn't foresee that. So, uh I don't 291 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:26,960 think anybody No. Yep. >> All right. We'll get through it. 292 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:31,840 I just would, you know, I would just like to have you folks having the 293 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:34,000 benefit of filtered water as opposed to not. That's all. 294 00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:37,520 » Well, we that's >> Yeah. We And that was part of the 295 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,919 explanation to the neighbors is >> Y 296 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:42,960 » the sooner we get this done, the healthier it is for everybody, 297 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:47,520 » right? >> Yes. Yeah. I mean, they're on the Yeah. 298 00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:49,120 the system. So, so I think they they understood that. 299 00:21:48,159 --> 00:21:53,520 » Yeah. Okay. Good. >> Great. 300 00:21:50,480 --> 00:22:01,120 Are there any questions from any anybody here to for Joe? I I don't have any 301 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:09,200 other order of business. I know um >> certainly. John, come on up. Uh John um 302 00:22:03,919 --> 00:22:12,880 Cad Walder is is here. I told him he um this would be a good opportunity to ask 303 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:17,600 questions even though it's a West Neck Water District meeting. 304 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:19,120 » Yeah. Hi Joe. Uh thank you. >> Hi John. How are you? 305 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,420 » I'm well. >> I'm sorry. I'm blurry, John. 306 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:27,760 » That's quite right. I I am too. [laughter] 307 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:33,200 So, to follow up, I was ruminating what you said and for the benefit of the 308 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:38,799 room, it was uh we are part of the West Morland community. I am moving at my 309 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:43,600 snails pace to try to solve our egregious 310 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:49,200 salt water problem. We haven't gotten into the rest of the stuff yet. So, in 311 00:22:46,240 --> 00:23:00,159 kicking all around, I spoke to Joe uh about the reality of connecting to the 312 00:22:52,559 --> 00:23:05,520 West Neck water supply. And uh to reiterate, 313 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:10,480 uh your supply is really just coming from the two new wells. 314 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:17,280 And based on the calculations of the number of homes that it would require to 315 00:23:14,159 --> 00:23:25,200 be on board to get to us, which is toward the end of uh West Morland, um 316 00:23:22,159 --> 00:23:29,440 the system lacks the capacity. Does that sum it up, Joe? 317 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:34,960 » Yes, it does. So, so John, you know, John lives pretty far down West Morland, 318 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:41,600 uh, pretty far down the road. And if we brought a water mane down to his home, 319 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:46,240 first of all, we need 40% participation in order to go ahead with a project like 320 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:51,120 that. Uh, and there are quite a few homes along the way. And my concern is 321 00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:55,280 that 40% of the number of homes along the way plus people that will want to 322 00:23:52,960 --> 00:24:00,720 come in subsequently uh that will exceed the capacity of the 323 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:07,760 system. >> So and then you had said in order to try 324 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:12,880 to move it forward uh it would require the town's involvement. 325 00:24:10,159 --> 00:24:18,559 Did I understand that correctly? Well, uh, what I said was that the system as 326 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:23,360 it stands right now is very limited in capacity 327 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:29,360 and that the answer to increasing capacity would be to obtain another site 328 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:36,080 for water supply and to connect that to this existing wellfield to expand the 329 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:42,640 system. And I did explain to John that, you know, we had identified a potential 330 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:49,279 location for a new wellfield a year or two ago up in the Sum Woods property 331 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:55,279 there that's owned by the town. And that that to me would be the most likely 332 00:24:52,000 --> 00:25:01,520 location for an expansion if one were to occur. 333 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:06,880 So I guess my question is what's the reality of that possibility? 334 00:25:05,039 --> 00:25:12,960 Uh what is just ballpark cost of putting in 335 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:21,679 a new well and how many wells additionally would uh need to be drilled 336 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:26,400 in order to accommodate us? Um so because I'm crunching numbers, we this 337 00:25:24,559 --> 00:25:33,200 is one of my neighbors here. There's a group of us who've banded together to 338 00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:37,679 talk about the issue. Uh you start adding up everybody doing a 339 00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:44,159 sister through binder. Uh that's a that's a lot of dough, you know. So 340 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:52,640 talking 70 78,000 bucks per I'm looking at other options as well. But um you 341 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:58,320 know before we commit to shelling out of pocket you know a fairly large sum of 342 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:03,520 money. I'm wondering you know how realistic it is to hope for something 343 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:10,000 like this. Uh, I know originally when I was talking to Lisa, it had to do with 344 00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:16,000 reading the paper and when SCWA took over the bond and, you know, maybe more 345 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:22,799 people would help diffuse the the overall cost per person. So, in any 346 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:26,960 event, um, that's why I'm here, just to kind of stir it up a little bit more. 347 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:33,039 » Sounds like the real critical issue is getting another well. 348 00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:38,720 » Yeah. Now, allegedly, uh, uh, I talked to Gregor, uh, he's waiting to come 349 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:42,480 back. He said, "Oh, for you guys to get another well 350 00:26:39,679 --> 00:26:48,159 » for West Texas another." >> Yeah, for us it's sticking a straw in, 351 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:54,559 and how shallow can we go? >> We've got that mega house going in up 352 00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:58,480 the street. Uh, uh, your dad did a five job. 353 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:02,559 stuff to talk about riding on top of the mountain. 354 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:07,679 » Um, so yeah, we're all connected. We're all in this together and uh I haven't 355 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:15,679 gone door todo uh you know to see who else is interested uh just you know sort 356 00:27:12,159 --> 00:27:20,240 of informally in conversation and people found out that I I've been pursuing this 357 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:27,279 for about a year and a half or whenever the saltwater intrusion testing through 358 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:33,360 WAC in the school started. Uh I have been doing uh I think you may have heard 359 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:40,720 in the LA because I was here for the QI meeting my numbers are up to uh you know 360 00:27:37,679 --> 00:27:45,919 well 2420. I just had Goldman come again of being out of pocket just to have my 361 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:51,679 own little database but it's gotten you know worse from 362 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:58,799 uh passible when we first moved in 2017. So, I know it's a lot of factors that 363 00:27:54,559 --> 00:28:05,520 are adding up to the problem. Um, but I did read somewhere that Suffach County 364 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:10,399 had a mandate to provide portable water to its citizenry. 365 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:16,080 Uh, and does that include us on Shelter Island? And you know, it gets tricky 366 00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:21,919 because I know we're not hooked into the main SCWA system. And I mean I even see 367 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:28,960 the push back that you guys are getting Joe from trying to get to South with the 368 00:28:26,159 --> 00:28:32,399 pipe. Right. So I >> Yeah. Yeah. So I've been following it 369 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:36,080 all. I'm trying to you know stay in price situation but I'm here pleading I 370 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:39,919 guess >> for some help. 371 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:47,679 One question I have, and I don't know if anybody can answer this yet, is is there 372 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:55,279 a possibility of drilling a well closer to West Morland? 373 00:28:50,559 --> 00:29:00,799 Um, or is that just going to the spot where the the it's critical and there's 374 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:05,760 no there's no ability to to find a portable water in that particular 375 00:29:03,679 --> 00:29:14,159 peninsula. I don't know the answer to that because the Sich Woods idea is 376 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:19,200 grand, but there's that's huge hurdles >> to get over to do that. 377 00:29:16,399 --> 00:29:22,640 » A lot of area to draw to drive mains and to put mains in. 378 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:28,159 » Yeah. >> However, since our the since the West 379 00:29:25,679 --> 00:29:36,399 Neck water man currently goes down to Hyo right now, I mean, I'm just shooting 380 00:29:31,679 --> 00:29:42,960 from the hip here. It's not that much a stretch to see it progress toward uh the 381 00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:45,919 West Morland Peninsula if there was portable water available. 382 00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:49,919 » I'm just throwing that out there. >> Do you remember the the home count that 383 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:55,440 you had, Joe? >> Um I know I said just roughly got around 384 00:29:53,760 --> 00:30:00,080 36 homes and we were doing >> something like something in the 30s. 385 00:29:57,039 --> 00:30:05,279 Yes. Yeah, 40% of that, you know, 14 16ish 386 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:09,600 » homes, you know, just to get to us who's available. I've been looking on the DE 387 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:14,960 site, DEEC site >> at the wealth desk. Sadly, a reliable 388 00:30:12,159 --> 00:30:18,960 source said those numbers about depths of well often are fudged. 389 00:30:18,399 --> 00:30:26,559 » Exactly. >> So, so I've even talked Oh, I'm sorry, 390 00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:32,960 Joe. Did you by a chance remember the device that you were trying to tell me 391 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:36,559 about reading through PVC to get the salinity? 392 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:40,720 Remember we were talking about trying to test test where 393 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:44,320 » Yeah. U >> you know even where I might start to 394 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:51,039 look for something like that. >> It's it's not a it's not a uh 395 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:58,720 it's not like a commercially available device. It's a technology 396 00:30:54,480 --> 00:31:04,159 and it's uh boy oh boy it's electro something and I I I I 397 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,919 I'll get it for you if you want. >> I appreciate it if you if you come 398 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:11,840 across it because I'm a little bit of a nerd that way and 399 00:31:10,159 --> 00:31:13,840 » yeah we've we've actually done it we've done it in 400 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:18,480 » Southold. Yeah. Well say that again. I'm sorry. 401 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:22,720 » Say that again Joe. >> We we've done it in Southold. We put in 402 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:26,799 some PVC case wells and then read through the PVC casing what the salinity 403 00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:32,000 was of the water on the other side of the casing. Um 404 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:35,919 » the only thing John and I again you know after talking to you I spoke to my hydro 405 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:42,000 geologists I just don't see you having an option 406 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:45,279 when it comes to another well. I really don't. You're so shallow now, 407 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:50,480 » right? >> That you know to go shallower 408 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:57,440 the water quality is going to suffer. You know, to have a 25- foot deep well, 409 00:31:54,159 --> 00:32:02,880 you know, you're really the the the potential for contamination 410 00:31:59,919 --> 00:32:07,919 and the filtration system you would need would really be uh a big lift. 411 00:32:06,399 --> 00:32:10,320 » I agree. Which is why >> at some point you're going to be 412 00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:13,840 desalinating. You know what I mean? You're going to be 413 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,840 You're going to be desalinating the water 414 00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:18,720 » as we >> problems too, 415 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:22,799 » right? Should I pump the effluent back into the creek and raise 416 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:26,559 » right? What do you do with the I'm trying I'm trying to do the right 417 00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:32,559 thing. So, um, >> so one other question though, Lisa, you 418 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:40,080 told me that there were other wells that were retired from the original West Neck 419 00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:46,880 district. Um, yeah. Is there a reason that they are no longer used and could 420 00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:51,679 they be brought back to life or >> No, they they failed. Um, 421 00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:56,559 » we had three other wells and Joe probably could give you a more concise 422 00:32:53,840 --> 00:33:01,840 uh evaluation, but essentially they they were shallow. 423 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:06,159 » They had problems with manganesees and um iron and so there was discoloration. 424 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:12,159 They weren't viable wells, which is why they were retired, and which is why we 425 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:17,919 opted to do these two newer and much deeper wells on the golf course. So, 426 00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:24,000 there is one well that um is still on the old property, well number four, 427 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:31,760 which goes on during periods when peak is low. It kind of helps offset the two 428 00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:36,399 deeper wells. Yeah. But it it's essentially wells just go bad. 429 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,320 » And is the golf >> Sorry. Go ahead, 430 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,000 » Joe. >> Go ahead, Joe. 431 00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:47,120 » Yeah, we've retired the uh the two wells on the golf course that we got when we 432 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:52,480 uh when we took over the system. Those were PVC case wells and they weren't 433 00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:57,840 grouted. So, they've been abandoned and they were replaced by two, you know, 434 00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:00,559 public supply wells that are built to current standards. 435 00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:04,799 » What's the new opportunities on the golf course for 436 00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:09,839 additional wells. I wouldn't be surprised. 437 00:34:06,399 --> 00:34:13,200 Uh we haven't explored that. You know, I know that Shelter Island 438 00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:17,679 Heights has some wells on the golf course on the other side, so we have to 439 00:34:15,919 --> 00:34:23,200 be careful that we're not too close to them, but that is that's not something 440 00:34:20,879 --> 00:34:27,919 that we've looked at. Mhm. >> What about creating an entirely new 441 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,800 district south where it could 442 00:34:28,879 --> 00:34:34,320 » because then what about Shell Beach and >> Well, the Shell Beach is having 443 00:34:32,079 --> 00:34:38,240 problems. You're having problems. >> Not that would be astronomical, but it 444 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:43,040 would be it's you know, you could if you could find a space down that way that 445 00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:46,800 was reliable, you could branch out in those directions. 446 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:50,960 » So, problem is as you get south there though, the water quality is going to 447 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:54,560 deteriorate quickly. You have to take it from somewhere closer to the center and 448 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:59,359 ship it out to them because there's just not enough there. It's too shallow of an 449 00:34:56,720 --> 00:35:01,440 aquifer to support everybody on a major well. 450 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:05,680 » Yeah. Now >> the good quality water is on the high 451 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:10,160 ground. >> Back to what Lisa had had, you know, 452 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:16,079 asked earlier about is there another place in our area. Anecdotally, I just 453 00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:20,000 learned today because what happens is uh friends hear me talking and then they 454 00:35:17,839 --> 00:35:26,400 talk to other friends and so couple people up, you know, up near the bend uh 455 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,839 are saying they have good water. Although somebody was saying, "Yeah, but 456 00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:36,320 my neighbor doesn't have a sister and he's irrigate irrigating." Uh point is 457 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:40,960 » uh I don't know like the the air the airfield there. I think there is a I 458 00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:44,880 believe that's a well I've never gone to look at a Doug a Doug well tile did you 459 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:48,400 ever notice come in >> unless Morland 460 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:51,040 » there I think there is an old well there it's not something we would 461 00:35:49,734 --> 00:35:54,480 [clears throat] be able to use for >> right I understand but I'm just saying 462 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:59,599 that maybe because it's a little higher ground and it's a more open but again I 463 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,640 don't know >> who controls that 464 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,200 » it's also still like a shallow >> out 465 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,599 that seems >> yeah that's the concern 466 00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:11,680 » right that's what I want to do now. I want to play with it and actually find 467 00:36:09,839 --> 00:36:15,359 the land. So, I've been looking at all kinds of ways to 468 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,720 » and this is a particularly bad summer for it because of the drought in the 469 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,720 beginning and then everybody coming out. So, 470 00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:24,320 » well, and that's what happens. I think you maybe heard just for you guys to 471 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:30,400 review, >> you know, we moved in 2017 and fall and 472 00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:37,119 our water was fine. We're drinking it a tinge in August. Uh and then and we were 473 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:41,760 going away uh typically 3 months of the year. COVID we were gone for 6 months 474 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:45,920 and came back and but it was just progressively getting worse and waiting 475 00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:51,359 for a recharge and waiting the rain that never came and just that's why 476 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:55,280 » you know when I pegged the numbers at the high school I was like I want to see 477 00:36:53,280 --> 00:37:01,599 what the real numbers are and just watching just steadily marching up you 478 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:06,320 know no relief. So etc. It just hadn't come to yesterday. It'll be interesting 479 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:12,480 to see if this rain had any impact at all. But I was holding my breath. So I 480 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:17,680 » you know talking with John I mean he kind of enlightened me as to the number 481 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:22,800 of people that actually have sistns on the island which I really I 482 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:26,320 embarrassingly I was not aware of. But uh you know, we've spoken we've it's 483 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:33,280 always been a point of contention with people in South Hold about the large 484 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:36,640 tanker trucks that fill up uh via the fire hydrants in South Hole. Then they 485 00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:41,760 get on the ferry and they bring water over to Shelter Island. This has always 486 00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:46,640 been a big big issue for them. They feel like you're stealing their stealing 487 00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:50,160 their water. I won't get into that, but but from what I understand, 488 00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:52,960 » I think so too. We're stealing your water. 489 00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:57,680 » Yeah. But uh >> but talking to the ferry operator on the 490 00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:03,599 south uh ferry uh he was telling me that like dozens of 491 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:07,200 tankers go over every day taking water from the south side. 492 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:10,960 » Yeah. Right on that spit of land. >> Long Beach Road right there. There's a 493 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,440 » there's a stand pipe and they're that's where they're pumping it out of. So 494 00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:16,400 yeah, >> not a well that's coming from your 495 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,440 system. >> Oh no, it is. 496 00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:23,119 » It's Suffach County water. >> Well Well, yeah. So, you know, we're we 497 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:28,560 have intentions of looking closely at that to see where he's getting the water 498 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:33,440 from and how much he's taking because uh you know, we charge him a hefty fee to 499 00:38:31,359 --> 00:38:36,800 connect up in South Hold, but we we didn't really know how much water was 500 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:41,599 coming out of Southampton. >> Oh, you didn't know that? Wow. Wow. 501 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:45,599 Yeah, it is. That's a lot. >> Yeah. 502 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:51,680 » And then maybe my last question. No, there will always be more. uh the 503 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:57,760 current sister-in-law um can they be used for portable water? 504 00:38:55,359 --> 00:38:59,040 » I think right now in the code it says no. 505 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,760 » Yeah. >> So to look at that. 506 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,440 » Yeah. Okay. >> Because it's a whole health department 507 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,960 regulation. >> We're in this together. It's just that 508 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:10,000 we're kind of at the front of it because we're splitting the bullet. 509 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:13,359 » If your sister is coming from a water truck, a tanker truck, it's not 510 00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:16,800 regulated >> that water that I understand that you 511 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:22,240 know. So, you know, I'm looking at the roof rain near the roof and you know, I 512 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:24,160 haven't gone down to get all the code. >> Yeah. 513 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:27,440 » But I'm that's why I say I'm at my snail's pace marching along with this. 514 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:32,240 But, >> you know, we just replaced our boiler 515 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:38,640 probably repeating myself. We've gone through in those almost nine years, two 516 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:41,359 hot water heaters, a pressure tank, piping. It's just it's 517 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:47,359 » Yeah, >> chlorides will do that. I had I had a 518 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:52,000 three-year-old bow pop out from, you know, corrosion. Looked like looked like 519 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:54,160 beavers got to it. >> Thank you very much. 520 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:59,240 » Thank you, John. Um, >> all right. Nice meeting you, John. 521 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,240 » No, I appreciate your 522 00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:06,240 » because, as you say, we're all connected. You know, water doesn't have 523 00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:09,680 boundaries. So, this is this is part of a a greater conversation. 524 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:13,359 » Yep. And um >> understood. 525 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:18,720 » I just have to wonder how much of this conversation takes place when they're 526 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:22,240 building new houses everywhere. >> It's hard for me to believe that in a 527 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:26,480 water starved area like this you could even build another house. 528 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:31,119 » Yep. That would be my at the sizes, >> especially at these huge sizes. 529 00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:33,839 » Yeah. Exactly. I mean that people don't think of that. They don't think, you 530 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:37,920 know, they just assume the water is going to magically be there because it 531 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:40,400 was in the city. You just turn on the faucet. Okay. 532 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,760 » Well, there's an irony that, you know, water is so abundant in other parts of 533 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:48,440 the island. You know, you don't have to go far to find plenty of water. 534 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:54,800 » Okay. Joe, we're do we have any more questions for John? 535 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:59,920 » Lisa, the only other thing was that I'm sorry. Anybody have questions? Go 536 00:40:56,079 --> 00:41:03,920 » ahead. I I sent you that AR amortization schedule that I apologize. I was delayed 537 00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:08,880 on that. I I should have sent that earlier. Um that's basically it. You 538 00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:12,319 know that as far as capital improvements, those are all the capital 539 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:16,240 improvements on the system right now. That's what your that's what your uh 540 00:41:14,319 --> 00:41:20,079 search charge is paying for. >> Right. 541 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:23,280 » Um so that is the current state of affairs 542 00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:30,079 » and I don't think I forwarded that to anybody. So I will forward that. 543 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:32,480 » Um yeah, it came in and I just forgot about it. 544 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,960 » No problem. I'll I'll make sure we all look at it. 545 00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:38,560 » Okay. All right. I just wanted to make sure. 546 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:42,160 » All right. Well, I think that the uh you know, the next order of business is just 547 00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:46,240 to get you down there to put that uh put those filtration get the thing built and 548 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,599 get those filters. >> Now, that's our focus. Yep. 549 00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:52,640 » Get the road done first and figure out >> get the road done and get get in there 550 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:57,440 cuz >> Yeah. And also, uh you know, the Bloom 551 00:41:55,200 --> 00:42:01,280 residents, uh they're they're being connected. I'm not sure if they've been 552 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:04,480 connected already, but it's in the works. It's almost done, I think. 553 00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:08,480 » There you go. >> Yeah. I I spoke with Barbara and she's 554 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:12,079 she I said, "Please come to the meeting." But she 555 00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:17,359 » she was very happy and pleased with the service that she's gotten from uh the 556 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:21,920 water authority and the way, you know, the way it's been progressing once you 557 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:26,640 get all over all the bureaucratic DEC stuff. Um, she's very happy to be on 558 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:30,400 board and I think they're waiting for their plumber 559 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:33,680 » to connect but and then they'll be >> they still have the other house where I 560 00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:38,160 think the line has to be extended to connect too. Yeah, I believe so. 561 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:42,400 » The one on Manic >> Manic. Yeah. 562 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:46,079 » So, yeah, she was h she was good testimonial there. 563 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:50,240 » Okay, great. All right, good to hear. All right. So, if that's it, we'll uh 564 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,480 we'll talk to you in a couple months and hopefully we'll have lots of good moves 565 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:56,480 then. >> Okay. And we'll get next next time we 566 00:42:54,480 --> 00:43:01,440 meet, I'll give you a wrap up on the summer, what Pumpage was like, 567 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:04,079 » uh and how it compares to previous years. 568 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:09,280 » I mean, so far it's looking like a fairly average to 569 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:14,560 I would say a fairly average summer. >> Yes. Well, on our invoice, it gives the 570 00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:20,280 um total consumption and it's um 571 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,280 6,11400 572 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:28,000 cubic feet. So, I didn't look back to the previous year's invoice to see how 573 00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:31,680 that compared. >> Uh I 574 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:34,880 » I keep a spreadsheet. I Yeah, I have I keep a spreadsheet. I look at pumpage. 575 00:43:33,359 --> 00:43:38,319 You know, I I could look at the consumption, but I'm more interested in 576 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:42,720 how much water we're taking out of the ground because that's the one that 577 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:46,720 impacts the resource. So, I keep that and I keep that in thousands of gallons. 578 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:49,599 But that's okay. I I can I can show it to you and I can compare it to you over 579 00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:52,800 the past five or six years at this point. 580 00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:58,079 » Well, I'm not sure if our invoice is is is CCFs or if it is 581 00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:01,119 » CCF. Yeah, we build in CCF. So, that's why the invoice or what you're talking 582 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:05,359 about is CCF. >> Okay. which is 700 583 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:11,920 » customer you know that's customer meter >> readings and customer accounts 584 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:16,800 » which if for a reference is 748 gallons one CCF 585 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:21,200 » you could do a calculation >> okay thank you very much Joe and uh 586 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:24,240 we'll talk to you in a couple of months >> okay have a great Labor Day weekend 587 00:44:23,359 --> 00:44:27,119 » take care >> all right 588 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:31,839 » bye bye >> um so the next order of business are is 589 00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:38,760 finances and we've got some happy stuff coming. And uh so our class account is 590 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,760 up to $155,87, 591 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:48,640 which is good. It's it's been steady. And um our checking account, which is 592 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:53,920 just used to pay small day-to-day administrative costs, is a couple 593 00:44:51,280 --> 00:45:02,000 thousand dollar. So that's good. Um, 594 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:06,160 so two things. We did get the invoice from Suffach County Water Authority, 595 00:45:03,839 --> 00:45:11,200 which I forwarded to you guys to take a look at it to become familiar with how 596 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:17,200 we're charged and looking at each individual um person's charge. We're 597 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:21,119 going to put that in executive session because we're going to talk about 598 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:26,240 » specific properties. So, we don't want to do that publicly. So, I'm just going 599 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:31,680 to set that aside. And um I don't know Amber, do you want to talk about the new 600 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:35,359 um happiness? >> Yes. 601 00:45:32,319 --> 00:45:40,720 » Okay. I see the floor to Amber. She's going to talk. Do you remember the 602 00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:44,319 analysis that we use to raise our rates? >> She's going to talk about that. 603 00:45:42,319 --> 00:45:51,520 » Yes. I brought that up on screen here. And you have two um handouts. Um, and 604 00:45:48,800 --> 00:46:01,119 the first one was the one prepared on April 22nd before the closing of 2026. 605 00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:07,119 And so when you look at that, um, we had made assumptions about what we thought 606 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:13,280 fiscal year 25 would be or 26 would be um, as an average of the last three 607 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:19,440 years. um because 24 was low but then we had found some missing um invoicing 608 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:26,960 which got caught up in 2025. So looking at 2026, we anticipated receiving 609 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:33,200 Westlake water billings of about 97,000. And then if we subtracted out what the 610 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:38,560 fee is for S County Water Authority, their operating amount, um we thought we 611 00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:43,680 were going to be shy just a little bit and have to pay them. 612 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:53,240 What ended up happening that year or you know last year was that our um our 613 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:53,240 billings was not 97,000 it was 106,596. 614 00:46:53,359 --> 00:47:02,680 So that ended up with us receiving a check from Suffach County Water 615 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:02,680 Authority for 72 $7,288. 616 00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:08,880 So we ended up putting more money into reserves. So, we ended last year with 617 00:47:07,359 --> 00:47:13,920 14794, you know, basically $148,000. 618 00:47:11,839 --> 00:47:18,560 So, when Lisa just said what the the new amount was, um that's why we had that 619 00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:25,359 bump up. So, given that information, I went back 620 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:31,920 and plugged in um what it would look like if we increased our billing rates 621 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:37,200 half a percent, which you approved in the last in three months ago. or it got 622 00:47:35,359 --> 00:47:43,400 implemented. So if we blow those rates out through 623 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,400 the end of the 624 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:53,599 um payback period of the loan, basically we will end up not having to pay the 625 00:47:51,760 --> 00:48:00,560 county water authority. I mean this is all an estimate. Um, but in 2020, no, 626 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:05,760 2035, 2036 would be the first time we would 627 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:11,440 have to cut them a check. If they're if we keep increasing half a percent a 628 00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:17,119 year, if they only increase 3% a year and our staff in office expenses only go 629 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:23,280 up 2 and a half% a year. So, there's some, you know, variables in there, but 630 00:48:20,319 --> 00:48:30,880 we end up at the end of the term of the loan of end having $210,000 631 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:36,240 in our reserve account still. So, I'm not recommending that we do anything 632 00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:41,599 right now. Um I think in the spring um especially when we hear um from Joe next 633 00:48:39,359 --> 00:48:46,559 quarter what the summer consumption was if it was up if it was down and we may 634 00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:50,800 you know we'll talk about the billings you know what we want to um you know do 635 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:55,359 with rates for the customers again. My recommendation right now with not a lot 636 00:48:54,079 --> 00:49:00,319 of, you know, not knowing what the future holds is just not raise the rates 637 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:06,000 next year because even not raising the rates through the end of the loan, we'd 638 00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:09,760 still end up with like $74,000 in the account. But I'm not going to I'm 639 00:49:07,839 --> 00:49:13,280 not going to recalculate the spreadsheet until next year. 640 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:18,400 You know, we'll make a decision what you want to do with rates in the spring. See 641 00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:21,280 what the 2027 billing is >> and look again to see how you went 642 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,160 forward. >> Yeah. 643 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:28,800 » But um it was it was nice seeing that check come in and nice plugging it in to 644 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:32,160 see what it did to the sensitivity analysis. 645 00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:35,200 » Yeah. Well, it's always nice if we can avoid rate raising rates. 646 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,800 » Yeah. >> And a very healthy amount. But 647 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:46,480 » Mhm. Yeah. >> But we know that we we got at least uh 648 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:51,680 two new uh services service hookups. So that will increase an uptick. Yeah, but 649 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,240 just a little bit. And we want to keep a reserve. We want to make sure our 650 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:58,960 reserves >> don't dwindle down too much because we 651 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,800 always have to make sure that we can pay some kind of water authority. 652 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:06,720 » Yeah. >> The debt repayment. But as we get out 653 00:50:03,359 --> 00:50:09,839 to, you know, year 2040 and later, then we can start to do a little bit more 654 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:13,359 tweaking >> to 655 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:18,000 run down that balance if it hasn't already started to run down differently 656 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:22,400 from these assumptions. Of course, it will be a different board 657 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:26,240 [laughter] and it will maybe me will still be here. 658 00:50:25,359 --> 00:50:33,520 » Ask a question. >> Um yeah, I guess 659 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:39,920 » uh as a potential customer one, um what what is the likelihood of some seismic 660 00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:44,160 price increase in this? I know this bond has you 661 00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:49,760 planned and >> lay out. And it sounds like you've got 662 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:54,960 a, you know, good handle on on on the numbers. You know, has there been any 663 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:58,319 talk about what could, you know, what >> you mean like global warming? 664 00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:00,319 » Yeah. Something some something crazy. >> We're all underwater, 665 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,400 » right? >> It's hard to say 666 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:07,040 » something. Yeah. >> I just wondered 667 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:13,200 that likely is that you feel pretty confident with the way things are going. 668 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:18,400 Well, one thing, John, um when we went under Suffach County Water Management 669 00:51:15,119 --> 00:51:22,960 Agreement and they they have elevated our infrastructure to the standards that 670 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:28,400 they require. Everything they do and everything they 671 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:34,559 will do from the point of management, which was 2022 672 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:40,720 to 2048 is all on their watch that they're paying for everything. 673 00:51:37,359 --> 00:51:47,599 So, we're going to have the benefit of having the uh the highest technologies, 674 00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:51,839 all kinds of testing and um infrastructure, but we don't pay 675 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:55,440 anymore. We've already paid everything. >> So, those changes do get diffused 676 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,180 through their entire customer. >> Absolutely. 677 00:51:56,319 --> 00:52:02,000 » But the current customer, [clears throat] if if the system is 678 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:08,079 extended, does that change anything >> if they were to extend it someplace? 679 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:10,800 » Yeah. Yes. would definitely change. Well, it would take the bonus off of the 680 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,559 each us. >> No, no, that wasn't my question. Uh will 681 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:19,440 they extend it just on their own? They'll pay for an extension. 682 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:24,079 » No, that who like say for example Westneck um or West Morland are 683 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:28,880 requesting that is going to come out of their 684 00:52:26,319 --> 00:52:32,720 pocket and I don't know how that's going I I can't say how that's going to work. 685 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:37,440 Would you have to set up your own water district if you came on to West Neck 686 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:41,920 Water District? Would we have to set up a whole new structure? I don't know. But 687 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,480 you're going to have to pay for the mains and all of the lines and 688 00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:49,119 everything. >> Wouldn't there be amendments and tweaks 689 00:52:47,359 --> 00:52:52,000 if something changed? >> Yeah. 690 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:58,720 » So, I mean, that would be taken care of then. We just kind of uh it would 691 00:52:54,960 --> 00:53:06,000 diffuse the kind of the end of the world uh for them for you. 692 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:10,400 You get a piece of the end of the world. But no, you'd end up paying 693 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:14,880 » at the broken bridge. >> Well, now that you bring that up, John, 694 00:53:13,359 --> 00:53:20,480 it's you know, you don't seem so attractive to us anymore. [laughter] 695 00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:25,280 » Sorry. Yeah, I just shot myself in the >> Well, part of it would be um however we 696 00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:30,160 determine to handle the districtricting, right? So, Westneck Water District has a 697 00:53:27,839 --> 00:53:34,079 defined boundary. So it would be a question of do we create a new district 698 00:53:31,839 --> 00:53:38,800 for the new area that's being serviced or do we try to expand West Neck Water 699 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:44,720 District to incorporate more area. So it would really depend on on how it worked 700 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:49,280 out um districtricting wise. >> So hypothetically if because Suffach 701 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:55,440 County does have a squad does have a mandate to provide portable water. So if 702 00:53:52,240 --> 00:54:00,160 a new district was created do they have to do that? I mean, they 703 00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:03,440 don't do it for free, so you have to pay for it, but they will do it. Is that the 704 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:07,839 deal? Is that how that works out? >> That's where the 40% of the people 705 00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:11,440 » 40% of the people in the area have to want it in order for it to be fiscally 706 00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:16,400 » and then does [clears throat] everyone in that area have to pay? Once you have 707 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:19,599 the district, you have to hook on >> tied in. 708 00:54:17,839 --> 00:54:25,119 » They would pay county water. >> No, I'm just charges. There are triggers 709 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:30,000 that would require you tying in. Yeah, but if you already have quotable water 710 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:34,960 in your well, you're not forced to tie in. It's if you're building a new pro, 711 00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:38,640 like a new house on a lot that doesn't currently have water, you'd be 712 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:43,760 so like >> so it' be optional for those who live in 713 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:46,559 that area, but their water is okay. They don't have to sign on, 714 00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:50,720 » right? And then there are certain triggers that might in the future force 715 00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:54,000 them to tie. Like let's say their water quality diminishes, it's no longer 716 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:58,800 portable. the health department will say, "Well, you have a main right there. 717 00:54:55,359 --> 00:55:03,200 You need to tie it to drop a new well." Right? Okay. 718 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,599 » County Department of Health is say, "You have to tie it." 719 00:55:04,319 --> 00:55:10,960 » Um, so there's a whole bunch of different ways it could get handled. And 720 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:16,240 so, let's say just hypothetically, um, you know, uh, Suffach County Water 721 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:21,520 Authority did put wells in St. James's Woods. Well, then you would have the 722 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:25,440 debate, do you start a new district? do tie into an existing district where the 723 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:28,559 boundaries I mean it becomes a process. So 724 00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:30,240 » um there would be a lot negotiated. >> Yeah. 725 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:35,119 » Because when they were looking at that they that was really because they're 726 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:38,160 trying to solve the same problem. >> Yeah. 727 00:55:36,079 --> 00:55:42,559 » Yeah. And then it had the benefit of being an emergency backup to neck water 728 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:48,000 district if possible. So you know could serve multiple 729 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:51,200 needs. Was that the only place that was seriously consumed 730 00:55:50,319 --> 00:55:52,160 » so far? >> Yeah. 731 00:55:51,599 --> 00:55:57,119 » Yeah. >> And then and then the 732 00:55:55,200 --> 00:56:00,720 waste water treatment that was over by the emergency services 733 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:05,760 » that was a whole another >> Yeah. And that that's pretty much the 734 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:13,599 Yeah. So going back to um this 735 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:17,680 analysis uh do we have anything that do we want to 736 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:20,880 go with Amber's suggestion that we just sit and wait 737 00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:23,920 » and see what our what the pumpage has will be for 26 738 00:56:23,359 --> 00:56:28,160 » and uh >> I mean we can't predict ahead of time 739 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:32,160 but if we can avoid an increase and not >> drive ourselves down yes by all means 740 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,319 we're not into when it's a not for-p profofit here we're not into making 741 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,359 money Yes. Yes. 742 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:40,319 » Do you have any questions about this analysis? No. 743 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,960 » Okay. >> But it could change. It could turn out 744 00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:45,520 that that's not the way things are going. And you know, it could go both 745 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:50,880 ways. >> Well, just just as we saw [laughter] 746 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:54,319 from earlier in the year spreadsheet to this year's spread, you to this today's 747 00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:59,040 spreadsheet. It's like, yeah, we're going to end with $1,500 reserve. Now 748 00:56:56,720 --> 00:57:04,240 we're going to end with a $215,000 reserve. I know it's crazy. Yeah. 749 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:10,000 » Because we have so many years. So, I like the idea of just being kind of 750 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:14,079 consistent but no, you know, jerky things, big changes. 751 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:20,640 » And I have to say the first couple of years were up and down because they put 752 00:57:17,359 --> 00:57:25,520 meters in. We lost water, we lost consumption readings. 753 00:57:22,799 --> 00:57:31,520 » So, it it took it took a couple years to work it out. Now I think this is a an 754 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:34,880 optimistic but sort of much better. >> It's not unrealistic. 755 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:39,839 » It's not unrealistic. This is >> the way hopefully it will operate. Um 756 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:45,040 and you know the last two years have been outliers just getting used to the 757 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:48,240 system. So it's good stuff. >> But I think the message I'm getting 758 00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:52,640 especially with Joan's comments is that there are areas in this island that are 759 00:57:50,319 --> 00:57:57,599 populated that are desperate for quality water. And I don't think we can just 760 00:57:54,559 --> 00:58:00,720 ignore it. I mean, there has to be some solution offered 761 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:07,160 » regardless of what people think about Squa or, you know, what their prejudices 762 00:58:03,359 --> 00:58:07,160 are against a district. 763 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:16,079 » Yeah. >> Um, so that's it on the finances before 764 00:58:13,839 --> 00:58:19,359 we go into executive session. Do we have any other anything else you want to 765 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:23,440 bring up? I didn't put rules and regulations down because I just thought 766 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:29,400 we have enough to talk about, but we'll get back to that maybe our next meeting. 767 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,400 » That's good. 768 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:38,755 » Yeah, we're gonna take you out, John. Sorry. 769 00:58:35,119 --> 00:58:38,755 » Count your blessings. [laughter] 770 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,305 » What a groovy shoot. [laughter] 771 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:53,200 And if I may, Wendy, I don't know if you remember, we we have met and spoken over 772 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:56,240 the years. >> John, 773 00:58:54,720 --> 00:59:00,079 I'm honored. >> I'm a big fan. 774 00:58:58,319 --> 00:59:05,119 » So, thank you very much. >> You're welcome. Yeah. Good luck. 775 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:08,079 » Are you Are you feeling discouraged? Does God do things?