[0:00] over here. Just be careful.
>> I think nobody else is here yet.
[0:06] » Do we need to second that?
>> I'll second it.
[0:11] » And then we're going to go through the
minutes of our June 5th 20 no of our um
[0:18] I think it was March meeting.
[0:22] Has everybody had a chance? March.
>> March and June.
[0:26] » What is it now? It's September.
>> It's June, right? It's the June 5th
[0:29] meeting. Yeah.
>> Got it. Okay. Yeah.
[0:34] » So, if you all had a chance to look
through that,
[0:41] » that was the one that you were you
looked through that Dan Dan had comment.
[0:45] » Yeah.
>> Yeah.
[0:48] » What was Dan's comment?
>> It was there should be an L and filter.
[0:54] » That's a reasonable comment.
>> That's a fair comment. That was about
[0:59] » I mean there were a couple other things
but anyway they've been corrected.
[1:03] » Great.
>> Okay. Good.
[1:05] » All right.
>> So if give you a second and then we'll
[1:08] move on.
>> I read that stuff. I mean that stuff was
[1:13] on the
the last thing you saw.
[1:27] This we've had before, right? A new one.
>> This is This is This is This is 25. They
[1:35] always We always get an invoice for the
prior years from June 25 to
[1:44] » gohead.
>> No, you didn't get this.
[1:48] » Not this one.
Okay. So, I'm going to Can we approve of
[1:54] the minutes?
>> I shall move.
[1:57] » Very good. All right. We're moving on to
the um Suffach County Water Authority
[2:02] part of the meeting
and Joe Pakornney is on board. So, good
[2:09] afternoon, Joe.
>> Hi, Joe.
[2:12] » Hello, everybody. How are you? Happy
Labor Day weekend almost.
[2:15] » Can't even believe it. Yes.
So, what do you got for us today, Joe?
[2:21] » Well, uh, I guess a couple things. The,
uh, the thing that we were talking about
[2:28] last meeting had to do with delinquent
accounts
[2:32] and how we would handle those going
forward.
[2:36] I have been in contact with Tom Crouch.
I believe that I I think from what it
[2:42] sounds like from his response that you
folks and the town board had a get
[2:47] together of some kind to discuss it and
he came back to me and it sounds to me
[2:53] like the um the way forward and and
correct me if I'm wrong because I'm not
[3:00] sure I totally understood his response
but it sounds like if there's a
[3:04] delinquent account and it exceeds our uh
you know gets to the point where we
[3:09] could be uh shutting water off. We would
turn it over to you guys
[3:16] or would you want us to turn, you know,
I'm not sure if you want us to go
[3:18] forward with the turn off or whether you
want us to to uh just turn it over to
[3:22] you. But in any event, if the person was
essentially delinquent and didn't pay
[3:27] their bill, we would deduct that from
our uh the remittance that we made to to
[3:33] you folks.
uh and then you would deal with the
[3:37] delinquent account.
Am I correct?
[3:40] » Hold on to the fine.
>> I have to say that I have been confused
[3:45] on this and I did ask Tom for
clarification.
[3:49] » Yeah. So did [clears throat] I.
>> So I don't think that anything has been
[3:54] uh definitively
>> set. Okay.
[3:58] » Because there were two there were two
options. one what that I thought and
[4:01] hoped for was that Suffach County Water
Authority would be the agency to shut
[4:07] water off.
>> That's fine. We can do that.
[4:12] » Then there was also discussion about
taking that delinquent account and
[4:17] attaching it to the tax bill and
collecting it that way.
[4:21] » Right. We we talked about that last
meeting and I I suggested to you folks
[4:25] that you could that's that's the way our
other managed water districts do handle
[4:30] it.
>> Uh right not necessarily meaning that
[4:34] you have to handle it that way. I mean
we can you know it could be again uh h
[4:41] how how you get the money is is up to
you but the point of the matter is is
[4:47] that we don't want to be the collection
agency
[4:50] you know for the town. The town is our
customer or the district is our customer
[4:56] and we would like to be compensated for
the water that the customers of the
[5:02] district consume.
Uh and if there's a person that doesn't
[5:06] pay their bill,
uh you know, we'll we'll follow our
[5:10] normal procedures, but our normal
procedures would then go to lean. The
[5:15] pro, you know, the the the bill would go
to lean if they didn't pay their bill.
[5:19] And I don't know that you guys want us
to do that. I you know you could you
[5:25] could let us do that if you want but I
have a feeling that you'd rather handle
[5:29] it yourselves and try to get
>> I think at that point was where we
[5:33] decided to adhere it to the tax bill.
>> Mhm. That's what I thought.
[5:37] » You want to weigh in?
>> That was the alternative. Yeah. I mean
[5:39] it's it's basically a lean. You just put
it on the tax bill yourselves. But the
[5:43] point is is that we would deduct that
payment. We would deduct that delinquent
[5:47] bill from the money that we remit to you
at the end of the year. So we'd have to
[5:52] cover it basically. So
>> you would have to cover it, right? But
[5:56] eventually it would be paid if you did
put it on the tax bill. That money would
[5:59] come back to the district.
[6:04] Amber, is that a is that some kind of
process that we have to really think
[6:07] through?
>> Yeah. Um I just I feel like that just
[6:12] complicates things a little bit. So how
does it how do you handle it with other
[6:16] districts? So if someone doesn't pay,
they do lean the property, but then what
[6:21] happens? Are you deducting it from?
>> Now, Amber, in other districts, in other
[6:27] managed districts,
uh, we simply deducted from what we
[6:31] remit to the district.
>> Okay. All right. As long as it's a
[6:35] similar process.
>> Well, that's what happened. It's our
[6:39] fault, Amber, when we crafted the
agreement.
[6:42] uh we I I forget whether it was an and
or a may that was not indicated properly
[6:47] in the agreement.
>> And so that's why we're that's why I'm
[6:51] asking for you folks to make this
agreement like it is with our other
[6:56] managed water districts.
>> That's what that's where I would like to
[6:59] get to.
And then what happens if I guess we just
[7:04] if someone they finally pay up before
you know like okay they don't wait until
[7:10] the property sold then we just keep the
money here.
[7:14] » Right.
>> Right. Yeah. If they pay up after we've
[7:17] deducted it then that money is yours.
>> Okay.
[7:21] » And if they pay up before that then we
turn them back on. They're back in
[7:24] business and they're a customer. And
that money then becomes part of your
[7:27] remittance with the portion of it that's
attributable to the district becomes
[7:32] part of your remittance.
>> So can you add a line to the tax bill
[7:36] that says delinquent water or something?
>> Um I don't know the the mechanics of how
[7:42] that happens. Um, but I think what we
need to do is let Thomas then finish
[7:47] working with your legal department to go
ahead and craft the necessary language
[7:52] so we can do an amendment to the
contract,
[7:56] » which I thought we had kind of done and
I went I got back to I responded to
[8:01] Thomas and I haven't heard from him and
that was about a month ago.
[8:05] » So I think we need to really follow up
on that and press forward.
[8:08] » I'm going to bump that on my list. Um so
Joe the the um just going back to the
[8:17] process that this still is the request
to shut water off is still being made to
[8:23] Suffach County Water Authority.
Correct. So we're following all the
[8:27] processes
up to that point. You you shut the water
[8:32] off. We then um the town decides how to
collect the money. What? How?
[8:39] » But I think it's that process that I we
were not clear about and it seemed like
[8:44] you didn't want to be involved with like
shutting the the water off. So
[8:48] » I we don't we don't have a problem with
doing that. We can do that if if uh
[8:52] again again a lot of times when we shut
the water off then people pay their
[8:55] bills
>> of course. And so I would suggest that
[8:59] we let's let's continue that process.
Let the water authority do that. uh if
[9:05] the people pay their bills then it
doesn't then it's no longer a delinquent
[9:09] account then it's all settled and
nothing has to be done.
[9:12] » I think that the point might be you shut
the water off on Tuesday they want to
[9:19] pay the bill on Wednesday they are under
the impression that they are going to
[9:23] pay Suffach County water the bill. So
then you will take that money and send
[9:29] it back to Westneck Water or you would
take that money and that would be
[9:33] included in our in end of the year
invoice.
[9:38] » Yes, it would be
>> money coming to us.
[9:40] » Yeah. Theoretically this is happening
before the invoice goes out for the year
[9:43] but you know if it was after that it'd
be for the next year but uh yes if it's
[9:48] before the end of the year then that
money would be included in the total
[9:52] revenues that we generated for the year.
we would deduct our management fee out
[9:57] of that and we would remit to the town
or to the district the uh the balance.
[10:01] » So the question would be when when would
it be posted on the tax bill? Would it
[10:07] be stay pending on Suffach County Water
Authority until a certain date and then
[10:11] it's on the tax bill?
>> Right.
[10:13] » Because if they do pay a week later then
>> Right.
[10:16] » Yeah. We'll have to have a you know
>> the mechanics has to Yeah. with
[10:20] » Yeah. It's not an instantaneous process.
In other words, you know, you know, they
[10:25] become a delinquent account, we tell you
about it, then you've got to go through,
[10:29] you know, when your taxes are due,
>> uh, you have to post put it on their on
[10:34] their bill. Uh, and again, you know, in
my experience, most people when we shut
[10:39] the water off, they they pay the bill.
But there are some folks that just shut
[10:45] the water off and I don't know if they
leave town or what, but
[10:49] » Well, they have to have their water.
>> Yeah. Well, if they're there,
[10:52] » they get the money somehow.
>> Is is there
[10:55] » is there a charge for turning it back
on?
[10:58] » Yes.
>> So, that has to be stipulated some.
[11:01] » Yeah.
>> Disconnect charge as well.
[11:06] » Sorry, John.
>> Is there a charge to shut the water off?
[11:09] » Yeah. In other words, has there charge
at each end disconnect?
[11:12] » Oh, I bet. I don't know. Um,
>> is there a charge to shut the water off?
[11:17] » No, I think so. No, no,
>> no. The the the charge is to turn the
[11:22] water back on.
[11:26] » All right. So then, as it stands now,
can we verbally say that we are
[11:33] expecting Suffach County Water Authority
to take it to that shut off point and
[11:38] then we're going to work out the
mechanics of payment?
[11:42] » Can we can we leave it at that and say
that that that is where we are? That's
[11:47] fine with me. I It really it's just that
it's a minor change to the way we're
[11:52] operating now.
>> And basically what it is is that now
[11:55] we're going to deduct the money out of
your annual payment.
[11:59] Uh and before we were we were trying to
collect the money,
[12:03] » right?
>> We were holding the money on our we were
[12:05] holding the pass due amount on our
account. And uh you know again my
[12:10] finance department pointed this out to
me. We went back and looked at the
[12:13] agreement and we said, "Well, that's
that's not the way we want to operate.
[12:18] Uh, the way we operate should be the way
we do it with all of our managed
[12:21] districts." And if it works for you
guys, I would I would appreciate it if
[12:25] we could make that change.
>> And what I'll do is I'll work with Tom
[12:29] if it's okay, you know, if you guys can
get back to me and let me know if it's
[12:33] okay. But if it is, then I'll work with
Tom to change the language in the
[12:36] agreement. It'll require a small
amendment of the agreement language to
[12:41] codify this.
>> Yeah, absolutely.
[12:45] » Okay,
>> go for it.
[12:46] » And then with we have to work together.
We have to sit down and figure out
[12:51] » and
[12:55] » yes.
[12:59] » Okay. And um there's there's something
to that uh that is really important. I
[13:05] think we mentioned it before and that is
we need to we need to be have a regular
[13:13] a scheduled
uh
[13:17] what not invoicing but we have to be
told regularly when an account is
[13:23] delinquent.
>> Yes, [snorts] that's that's part of it.
[13:26] So if we have a delinquent account we
need to notify you. [clears throat]
[13:29] » You need Yes. And sooner rather than
later.
[13:33] » Absolutely. So that may be something to
work out with Stephanie
[13:38] Hannah.
Well,
[13:41] » there must be a similar process for
other districts. Yeah. So if it's like a
[13:46] month later or, you know, I probably not
a week later, but whatever that is, it
[13:50] makes sense to be consistent across the
board for them.
[13:53] » Mhm.
[13:56] » Okay.
because then some letter would have to
[14:00] go out to the homeowner that you are
delinquent, therefore this will be
[14:04] posted on your tax bill, etc.
>> Right. Well, they send the letters with
[14:10] regards to um delinquency on their end.
>> I know, but once it reaches once a
[14:15] problem, we have to then let them know
how that's going to play out.
[14:19] » Yeah.
>> Joe, are you still with us?
[14:23] » Yeah, but I'm I'm going back and forth.
It's blinking on and off. Is that Is
[14:27] that you folks over there? Can you hear
me?
[14:29] » We can hear you.
>> We can hear you. Yeah,
[14:31] » we can't see you, but we can hear you.
>> For some reason, Whoa.
[14:36] Uh, for some reason, my screen is
blinking on and off, and I'm not sure
[14:40] what that is.
>> Well, service out there is not the
[14:44] greatest.
>> And now I'm blurry. [laughter]
[14:46] » Very blurry.
>> Very blurry. Yeah.
[14:48] » Who makes the decision to pull a plug?
Well, right now
[14:53] » squad does.
>> They make the decision based.
[14:56] » Well, they they're going to do it, which
is absolutely logical. Yes.
[14:59] » But I mean, who says go ahead and do it?
>> That's we're giving them that permission
[15:03] right now.
>> We're not involved in that piece of the
[15:06] process.
>> There must be a standard that they use
[15:08] for all
>> is it automatic with a certain amount of
[15:13] time or amount of money?
>> Yeah.
[15:16] » Okay.
>> Yep. And it's all laid out on their web
[15:18] page, too.
>> Yeah. I know. Yep. So we don't touch
[15:22] you.
>> We don't have No.
[15:24] » So but the hard part is to come. Right.
>> Right. [laughter]
[15:27] » When we go to collect.
>> Yeah.
[15:29] » Yeah. That'll be our
[15:34] » All right. Well,
>> I'm sorry. I'm sorry about the blurry
[15:36] view here. I'm not sure what what's
causing it. I can I can hop off and hop
[15:41] back on if it's important.
>> No, we know that I'm blurry. Okay.
[15:48] » Um anything else? Um I know that we are
still awaiting site plan review
[15:54] confirmation.
>> From what I understand it's now with
[15:59] » it was approved on Monday.
>> Yes.
[16:01] » So what are how are we going forward
with that? Is it are we ready to
[16:09] » um
>> to jump ahead with the project?
[16:11] » Yeah. So Southern County Water Authority
would like finish up whatever building
[16:14] permits need to be obtained. So they'll
work with the building department and
[16:18] move forward. Okay.
>> Yeah.
[16:22] » So, are you are you there with that?
>> Yeah, we'll do that. Well, you know, my
[16:26] chief engineer is uh he's on top of the
process. So, uh I'm not sure if there's
[16:31] a meeting coming up where we have to be
involved with doing a presentation to
[16:35] the building department or whether this
is just a plan review and approval. Um
[16:41] whatever it is, we'll we'll do it.
[16:46] Yeah, I think you already came to us
with the with this with the plan.
[16:50] » Oh, yeah.
>> Town board and it was approved.
[16:53] » Yeah, it's my understanding the permit
from the building department. You don't
[16:56] have to do a presentation to the board.
That part's all done.
[16:59] » Yeah.
>> Okay.
[17:01] » Yeah. And I think um there's two trees
in the rightway that need to come down
[17:06] for access. And I I believe uh public
works is going to take those two down.
[17:11] » That's correct.
>> Okay.
[17:12] » Yeah. Yeah, the neighbor the neighbor
notified us that he's going to put a
[17:17] fence up.
>> We talked about it yesterday. I talked
[17:21] with the neighbor.
>> Did you? Okay.
[17:23] » The town engineer and uh the supervisor
of department of um the road.
[17:30] Uh we sat down and we talked to the
neighbors. They know what has to be done
[17:34] and they're in agreement with it. And um
so we're we're moving we we have that
[17:41] plan sort of in place and now that we've
got the approval we just Kenny can just
[17:46] go down take down the trees and then we
can start redirecting
[17:52] the road. So we'll let you know the
trees are down now. And um is that a is
[18:00] that something Suffach County Water
Authority will do? is at something that
[18:04] we will do which is to extend the road
beyond where it is right now and fix the
[18:10] right of way.
So I think that's in our I think that's
[18:15] our in our perfe
[18:20] I'm happy to do minor little
improvements but if this is road work uh
[18:25] this is really something I think that
you folks should be doing.
[18:28] » Yep. especially due to the sensitive
nature of this with the neighbors.
[18:32] » Right now it's amicable.
>> Great. I'm glad to hear that.
[18:36] » They know what's going on. They're in
agreement and it it's it's we're in a
[18:40] good place with the neighbors.
>> Great. Um [clears throat]
[18:45] some of the concern is that once the
right ofway is extended onto the
[18:50] property where those two trees were and
will come down, it's a very sharp 45°ree
[18:58] turn onto the onto the uh property where
the [clears throat] you know the pump
[19:03] house is. So
>> yeah,
[19:06] » knowing what kind of is needed for the
trucks to go down to could start the
[19:13] project is an important part of this
conversation. How big of an area
[19:20] do those trucks need? Because right now
they're just going down and taking the
[19:24] corner off of the neighbors lot. Yep.
>> So right now if they're going to go
[19:28] straight and make a turn,
>> that's that teetail needs to be laid
[19:33] out.
Yeah. Um I'll have to check with my
[19:36] engineers to make sure that we think we
can get in there. Obviously, we're going
[19:40] to have to bring a concrete truck in
there when we pour the foundation.
[19:44] » Uh and a small excavator to to, you
know, install the foundation. So, I'll
[19:51] have to have them take a look at it and
make sure. I haven't heard that there's
[19:54] going to be a problem with it. So, I'm
hoping that we'll be able to navigate
[19:58] it.
>> Yeah. Well, I I don't think anybody
[20:00] knows quite what what it's going to look
like yet until we get the trees down and
[20:04] we actually establish where the road is.
>> Then I think it'll become we think it's
[20:09] going to become apparent.
>> So maybe our DPW supervisor can get in
[20:16] contact with
whoever on your end is going to
[20:21] » Tim Com.
>> Yeah,
[20:22] » Kil Commons.
>> Yes, Tim Kil Commons. And I think
[20:25] they've already been in contact with
each other.
[20:28] » Okay.
Um, and then as time goes on,
[20:34] you know, just for the maintenance of
the uh filter, there are going to be
[20:40] times when the filter media will have to
be changed out. So, that will require a
[20:45] larger truck, too. So, we'll have to
confirm that that truck can also make it
[20:49] down the driveway.
[20:52] » Okay.
[20:58] And uh is there anything else
that
[21:03] » No, I think that's it. If that you know,
I'd just like to move this along,
[21:06] » right? I know we would too.
>> And [clears throat] you know, I think
[21:10] we're all sorry that it it it took this
long and that there it was this
[21:13] complicated.
>> We didn't foresee that. So, uh I don't
[21:18] think anybody No. Yep.
>> All right. We'll get through it.
[21:25] I just would, you know, I would just
like to have you folks having the
[21:29] benefit of filtered water as opposed to
not. That's all.
[21:32] » Well, we that's
>> Yeah. We And that was part of the
[21:35] explanation to the neighbors is
>> Y
[21:37] » the sooner we get this done, the
healthier it is for everybody,
[21:41] » right?
>> Yes. Yeah. I mean, they're on the Yeah.
[21:45] the system. So, so I think they they
understood that.
[21:48] » Yeah. Okay. Good.
>> Great.
[21:50] Are there any questions from any anybody
here to for Joe? I I don't have any
[21:56] other order of business. I know um
>> certainly. John, come on up. Uh John um
[22:03] Cad Walder is is here. I told him he um
this would be a good opportunity to ask
[22:11] questions even though it's a West Neck
Water District meeting.
[22:15] » Yeah. Hi Joe. Uh thank you.
>> Hi John. How are you?
[22:18] » I'm well.
>> I'm sorry. I'm blurry, John.
[22:20] » That's quite right. I I am too.
[laughter]
[22:25] So, to follow up, I was ruminating what
you said and for the benefit of the
[22:29] room, it was uh we are part of the West
Morland community. I am moving at my
[22:36] snails pace to try to solve our
egregious
[22:40] salt water problem. We haven't gotten
into the rest of the stuff yet. So, in
[22:46] kicking all around, I spoke to Joe uh
about the reality of connecting to the
[22:52] West Neck water supply. And uh
to reiterate,
[23:02] uh your supply is really just coming
from the two new wells.
[23:08] And based on the calculations of the
number of homes that it would require to
[23:14] be on board to get to us, which is
toward the end of uh West Morland, um
[23:22] the system lacks the capacity. Does that
sum it up, Joe?
[23:26] » Yes, it does. So, so John, you know,
John lives pretty far down West Morland,
[23:32] uh, pretty far down the road. And if we
brought a water mane down to his home,
[23:38] first of all, we need 40% participation
in order to go ahead with a project like
[23:43] that. Uh, and there are quite a few
homes along the way. And my concern is
[23:49] that 40% of the number of homes along
the way plus people that will want to
[23:52] come in subsequently
uh that will exceed the capacity of the
[23:57] system.
>> So and then you had said in order to try
[24:04] to move it forward uh it would require
the town's involvement.
[24:10] Did I understand that correctly? Well,
uh, what I said was that the system as
[24:16] it stands right now is very limited in
capacity
[24:20] and that the answer to increasing
capacity would be to obtain another site
[24:25] for water supply and to connect that to
this existing wellfield to expand the
[24:32] system. And I did explain to John that,
you know, we had identified a potential
[24:38] location for a new wellfield a year or
two ago up in the Sum Woods property
[24:46] there that's owned by the town. And that
that to me would be the most likely
[24:52] location for an expansion if one were to
occur.
[24:58] So I guess my question is what's the
reality of that possibility?
[25:05] Uh
what is just ballpark cost of putting in
[25:10] a new well and how many wells
additionally would uh need to be drilled
[25:16] in order to accommodate us? Um so
because I'm crunching numbers, we this
[25:24] is one of my neighbors here. There's a
group of us who've banded together to
[25:29] talk about the issue. Uh
you start adding up everybody doing a
[25:35] sister through binder. Uh that's a
that's a lot of dough, you know. So
[25:40] talking 70 78,000 bucks per I'm looking
at other options as well. But um you
[25:49] know before we commit to shelling out of
pocket you know a fairly large sum of
[25:55] money. I'm wondering you know how
realistic it is to hope for something
[26:00] like this. Uh, I know originally when I
was talking to Lisa, it had to do with
[26:06] reading the paper and when SCWA took
over the bond and, you know, maybe more
[26:13] people would help diffuse the the
overall cost per person. So, in any
[26:19] event, um, that's why I'm here, just to
kind of stir it up a little bit more.
[26:25] » Sounds like the real critical issue is
getting another well.
[26:29] » Yeah. Now, allegedly, uh, uh, I talked
to Gregor, uh, he's waiting to come
[26:35] back. He said, "Oh, for you guys to get
another well
[26:39] » for West Texas another."
>> Yeah, for us it's sticking a straw in,
[26:45] and how shallow can we go?
>> We've got that mega house going in up
[26:50] the street. Uh, uh, your dad did a five
job.
[26:56] stuff to talk about riding on top of the
mountain.
[26:59] » Um, so yeah, we're all connected. We're
all in this together and uh I haven't
[27:04] gone door todo uh you know to see who
else is interested uh just you know sort
[27:12] of informally in conversation and people
found out that I I've been pursuing this
[27:17] for about a year and a half or whenever
the saltwater intrusion testing through
[27:22] WAC in the school started. Uh I have
been doing uh I think you may have heard
[27:30] in the LA because I was here for the QI
meeting my numbers are up to uh you know
[27:37] well 2420. I just had Goldman come again
of being out of pocket just to have my
[27:42] own little database but it's gotten you
know worse from
[27:48] uh passible when we first moved in 2017.
So, I know it's a lot of factors that
[27:54] are adding up to the problem. Um, but I
did read somewhere that Suffach County
[28:01] had a mandate to provide portable water
to its citizenry.
[28:07] Uh, and does that include us on Shelter
Island? And you know, it gets tricky
[28:13] because I know we're not hooked into the
main SCWA system. And I mean I even see
[28:20] the push back that you guys are getting
Joe from trying to get to South with the
[28:26] pipe. Right. So I
>> Yeah. Yeah. So I've been following it
[28:30] all. I'm trying to you know stay in
price situation but I'm here pleading I
[28:35] guess
>> for some help.
[28:37] One question I have, and I don't know if
anybody can answer this yet, is is there
[28:43] a possibility of drilling a well closer
to West Morland?
[28:50] Um, or is that just going to the spot
where the the it's critical and there's
[28:57] no there's no ability to to find a
portable water in that particular
[29:03] peninsula. I don't know the answer to
that because the Sich Woods idea is
[29:10] grand, but there's that's huge hurdles
>> to get over to do that.
[29:16] » A lot of area to draw to drive mains and
to put mains in.
[29:20] » Yeah.
>> However, since our the since the West
[29:25] Neck water man currently goes down to
Hyo right now, I mean, I'm just shooting
[29:31] from the hip here. It's not that much a
stretch to see it progress toward uh the
[29:40] West Morland Peninsula if there was
portable water available.
[29:44] » I'm just throwing that out there.
>> Do you remember the the home count that
[29:48] you had, Joe?
>> Um I know I said just roughly got around
[29:53] 36 homes and we were doing
>> something like something in the 30s.
[29:57] Yes. Yeah, 40% of that, you know, 14
16ish
[30:01] » homes, you know, just to get to us who's
available. I've been looking on the DE
[30:07] site, DEEC site
>> at the wealth desk. Sadly, a reliable
[30:12] source said those numbers about depths
of well often are fudged.
[30:18] » Exactly.
>> So, so I've even talked Oh, I'm sorry,
[30:22] Joe. Did you by a chance remember the
device that you were trying to tell me
[30:29] about reading through PVC to get the
salinity?
[30:35] Remember we were talking about trying to
test test where
[30:39] » Yeah. U
>> you know even where I might start to
[30:42] look for something like that.
>> It's it's not a it's not a uh
[30:48] it's not like a commercially available
device. It's a technology
[30:54] and it's uh boy oh boy
it's electro something and I I I I
[31:02] I'll get it for you if you want.
>> I appreciate it if you if you come
[31:05] across it because I'm a little bit of a
nerd that way and
[31:10] » yeah we've we've actually done it we've
done it in
[31:12] » Southold.
Yeah. Well say that again. I'm sorry.
[31:16] » Say that again Joe.
>> We we've done it in Southold. We put in
[31:20] some PVC case wells and then read
through the PVC casing what the salinity
[31:24] was of the water on the other side of
the casing. Um
[31:29] » the only thing John and I again you know
after talking to you I spoke to my hydro
[31:34] geologists
I just don't see you having an option
[31:39] when it comes to another well. I really
don't. You're so shallow now,
[31:44] » right?
>> That you know to go shallower
[31:48] the water quality is going to suffer.
You know, to have a 25- foot deep well,
[31:54] you know, you're really the the the
potential for contamination
[31:59] and the filtration system you would need
would really be uh a big lift.
[32:06] » I agree. Which is why
>> at some point you're going to be
[32:09] desalinating. You know what I mean?
You're going to be
[32:12] You're going to be desalinating the
water
[32:14] » as we
>> problems too,
[32:16] » right? Should I pump the effluent back
into the creek and raise
[32:20] » right? What do you do with the
I'm trying I'm trying to do the right
[32:24] thing. So, um,
>> so one other question though, Lisa, you
[32:29] told me that there were other wells that
were retired from the original West Neck
[32:36] district. Um, yeah. Is there a reason
that they are no longer used and could
[32:44] they be brought back to life or
>> No, they they failed. Um,
[32:49] » we had three other wells and Joe
probably could give you a more concise
[32:53] uh evaluation, but essentially they they
were shallow.
[32:58] » They had problems with manganesees and
um iron and so there was discoloration.
[33:04] They weren't viable wells, which is why
they were retired, and which is why we
[33:08] opted to do these two newer and much
deeper wells on the golf course. So,
[33:15] there is one well that um is still on
the old property, well number four,
[33:20] which goes on during periods when peak
is low. It kind of helps offset the two
[33:28] deeper wells. Yeah. But it it's
essentially wells just go bad.
[33:34] » And is the golf
>> Sorry. Go ahead,
[33:37] » Joe.
>> Go ahead, Joe.
[33:39] » Yeah, we've retired the uh the two wells
on the golf course that we got when we
[33:45] uh when we took over the system. Those
were PVC case wells and they weren't
[33:49] grouted. So, they've been abandoned and
they were replaced by two, you know,
[33:55] public supply wells that are built to
current standards.
[33:59] » What's the
new opportunities on the golf course for
[34:02] additional wells. I wouldn't be
surprised.
[34:06] Uh we haven't explored that.
You know, I know that Shelter Island
[34:11] Heights has some wells on the golf
course on the other side, so we have to
[34:15] be careful that we're not too close to
them, but that is that's not something
[34:20] that we've looked at. Mhm.
>> What about creating an entirely new
[34:25] district south
where it could
[34:28] » because then what about Shell Beach and
>> Well, the Shell Beach is having
[34:32] problems. You're having problems.
>> Not that would be astronomical, but it
[34:36] would be it's you know, you could if you
could find a space down that way that
[34:40] was reliable, you could branch out in
those directions.
[34:44] » So, problem is as you get south there
though, the water quality is going to
[34:48] deteriorate quickly. You have to take it
from somewhere closer to the center and
[34:52] ship it out to them because there's just
not enough there. It's too shallow of an
[34:56] aquifer to support everybody on a major
well.
[35:00] » Yeah. Now
>> the good quality water is on the high
[35:03] ground.
>> Back to what Lisa had had, you know,
[35:08] asked earlier about is there another
place in our area. Anecdotally, I just
[35:13] learned today because what happens is uh
friends hear me talking and then they
[35:17] talk to other friends and so couple
people up, you know, up near the bend uh
[35:24] are saying they have good water.
Although somebody was saying, "Yeah, but
[35:28] my neighbor doesn't have a sister and
he's irrigate irrigating." Uh point is
[35:33] » uh I don't know like the the air the
airfield there. I think there is a I
[35:39] believe that's a well I've never gone to
look at a Doug a Doug well tile did you
[35:43] ever notice come in
>> unless Morland
[35:46] » there I think there is an old well there
it's not something we would
[35:49] [clears throat] be able to use for
>> right I understand but I'm just saying
[35:52] that maybe because it's a little higher
ground and it's a more open but again I
[35:58] don't know
>> who controls that
[36:01] » it's also still like a shallow
>> out
[36:04] that seems
>> yeah that's the concern
[36:06] » right that's what I want to do now. I
want to play with it and actually find
[36:09] the land. So, I've been looking at all
kinds of ways to
[36:13] » and this is a particularly bad summer
for it because of the drought in the
[36:16] beginning and then everybody coming out.
So,
[36:19] » well, and that's what happens. I think
you maybe heard just for you guys to
[36:23] review,
>> you know, we moved in 2017 and fall and
[36:28] our water was fine. We're drinking it a
tinge in August. Uh and then and we were
[36:34] going away uh typically 3 months of the
year. COVID we were gone for 6 months
[36:39] and came back and but it was just
progressively getting worse and waiting
[36:43] for a recharge and waiting the rain that
never came and just that's why
[36:48] » you know when I pegged the numbers at
the high school I was like I want to see
[36:53] what the real numbers are and just
watching just steadily marching up you
[36:58] know no relief. So etc. It just hadn't
come to yesterday. It'll be interesting
[37:03] to see if this rain had any impact at
all. But I was holding my breath. So I
[37:10] » you know talking with John I mean he
kind of enlightened me as to the number
[37:14] of people that actually have sistns
on the island which I really I
[37:19] embarrassingly I was not aware of. But
uh you know, we've spoken we've it's
[37:24] always been a point of contention with
people in South Hold about the large
[37:29] tanker trucks that fill up uh via the
fire hydrants in South Hole. Then they
[37:35] get on the ferry and they bring water
over to Shelter Island. This has always
[37:38] been a big big issue for them. They feel
like you're stealing their stealing
[37:44] their water. I won't get into that, but
but from what I understand,
[37:48] » I think so too. We're stealing your
water.
[37:51] » Yeah. But uh
>> but talking to the ferry operator on the
[37:55] south uh ferry
uh he was telling me that like dozens of
[38:00] tankers go over every day taking water
from the south side.
[38:04] » Yeah. Right on that spit of land.
>> Long Beach Road right there. There's a
[38:09] » there's a stand pipe and they're that's
where they're pumping it out of. So
[38:12] yeah,
>> not a well that's coming from your
[38:15] system.
>> Oh no, it is.
[38:17] » It's Suffach County water.
>> Well Well, yeah. So, you know, we're we
[38:21] have intentions of looking closely at
that to see where he's getting the water
[38:25] from and how much he's taking because uh
you know, we charge him a hefty fee to
[38:31] connect up in South Hold, but we we
didn't really know how much water was
[38:35] coming out of Southampton.
>> Oh, you didn't know that? Wow. Wow.
[38:39] Yeah, it is. That's a lot.
>> Yeah.
[38:42] » And then maybe my last question. No,
there will always be more. uh the
[38:48] current sister-in-law
um can they be used for portable water?
[38:55] » I think right now in the code it says
no.
[38:58] » Yeah.
>> So to look at that.
[39:00] » Yeah. Okay.
>> Because it's a whole health department
[39:02] regulation.
>> We're in this together. It's just that
[39:04] we're kind of at the front of it because
we're splitting the bullet.
[39:07] » If your sister is coming from a water
truck, a tanker truck, it's not
[39:12] regulated
>> that water that I understand that you
[39:15] know. So, you know, I'm looking at the
roof rain near the roof and you know, I
[39:19] haven't gone down to get all the code.
>> Yeah.
[39:22] » But I'm that's why I say I'm at my
snail's pace marching along with this.
[39:26] But,
>> you know, we just replaced our boiler
[39:30] probably repeating myself. We've gone
through in those almost nine years, two
[39:36] hot water heaters, a pressure tank,
piping. It's just it's
[39:40] » Yeah,
>> chlorides will do that. I had I had a
[39:43] three-year-old bow pop out from, you
know, corrosion. Looked like looked like
[39:49] beavers got to it.
>> Thank you very much.
[39:52] » Thank you, John. Um,
>> all right. Nice meeting you, John.
[39:55] » No, I appreciate your
[39:59] » because, as you say, we're all
connected. You know, water doesn't have
[40:03] boundaries. So, this is this is part of
a a greater conversation.
[40:08] » Yep. And um
>> understood.
[40:11] » I just have to wonder how much of this
conversation takes place when they're
[40:15] building new houses everywhere.
>> It's hard for me to believe that in a
[40:20] water starved area like this you could
even build another house.
[40:23] » Yep. That would be my at the sizes,
>> especially at these huge sizes.
[40:28] » Yeah. Exactly. I mean that people don't
think of that. They don't think, you
[40:32] know, they just assume the water is
going to magically be there because it
[40:35] was in the city. You just turn on the
faucet. Okay.
[40:38] » Well, there's an irony that, you know,
water is so abundant in other parts of
[40:42] the island. You know, you don't have to
go far to find plenty of water.
[40:48] » Okay. Joe, we're do we have any more
questions for John?
[40:53] » Lisa, the only other thing was that I'm
sorry. Anybody have questions? Go
[40:56] » ahead. I I sent you that AR amortization
schedule that I apologize. I was delayed
[41:02] on that. I I should have sent that
earlier. Um that's basically it. You
[41:07] know that as far as capital
improvements, those are all the capital
[41:10] improvements on the system right now.
That's what your that's what your uh
[41:14] search charge is paying for.
>> Right.
[41:16] » Um so that is the current state of
affairs
[41:20] » and I don't think I forwarded that to
anybody. So I will forward that.
[41:26] » Um yeah, it came in and I just forgot
about it.
[41:31] » No problem. I'll I'll make sure we all
look at it.
[41:33] » Okay. All right. I just wanted to make
sure.
[41:36] » All right. Well, I think that the uh you
know, the next order of business is just
[41:40] to get you down there to put that uh put
those filtration get the thing built and
[41:45] get those filters.
>> Now, that's our focus. Yep.
[41:47] » Get the road done first and figure out
>> get the road done and get get in there
[41:51] cuz
>> Yeah. And also, uh you know, the Bloom
[41:55] residents, uh they're they're being
connected. I'm not sure if they've been
[41:59] connected already, but it's in the
works. It's almost done, I think.
[42:04] » There you go.
>> Yeah. I I spoke with Barbara and she's
[42:06] she I said, "Please come to the
meeting." But she
[42:09] » she was very happy and pleased with the
service that she's gotten from uh the
[42:14] water authority and the way, you know,
the way it's been progressing once you
[42:19] get all over all the bureaucratic DEC
stuff. Um, she's very happy to be on
[42:25] board and I think they're waiting for
their plumber
[42:28] » to connect but and then they'll be
>> they still have the other house where I
[42:32] think the line has to be extended to
connect too. Yeah, I believe so.
[42:36] » The one on Manic
>> Manic. Yeah.
[42:40] » So, yeah, she was h she was good
testimonial there.
[42:44] » Okay, great. All right, good to hear.
All right. So, if that's it, we'll uh
[42:48] we'll talk to you in a couple months and
hopefully we'll have lots of good moves
[42:51] then.
>> Okay. And we'll get next next time we
[42:54] meet, I'll give you a wrap up on the
summer, what Pumpage was like,
[42:59] » uh and how it compares to previous
years.
[43:02] » I mean, so far it's looking like a
fairly average to
[43:06] I would say a fairly average summer.
>> Yes. Well, on our invoice, it gives the
[43:12] um total consumption
and it's um
[43:17] 6,11400
[43:20] cubic feet. So, I didn't look back to
the previous year's invoice to see how
[43:26] that compared.
>> Uh I
[43:29] » I keep a spreadsheet. I Yeah, I have I
keep a spreadsheet. I look at pumpage.
[43:33] You know, I I could look at the
consumption, but I'm more interested in
[43:36] how much water we're taking out of the
ground because that's the one that
[43:40] impacts the resource. So, I keep that
and I keep that in thousands of gallons.
[43:44] But that's okay. I I can I can show it
to you and I can compare it to you over
[43:48] the past five or six years at this
point.
[43:50] » Well, I'm not sure if our invoice is is
is CCFs or if it is
[43:55] » CCF. Yeah, we build in CCF. So, that's
why the invoice or what you're talking
[43:59] about is CCF.
>> Okay. which is 700
[44:02] » customer you know that's customer meter
>> readings and customer accounts
[44:08] » which if for a reference is 748 gallons
one CCF
[44:14] » you could do a calculation
>> okay thank you very much Joe and uh
[44:18] we'll talk to you in a couple of months
>> okay have a great Labor Day weekend
[44:23] » take care
>> all right
[44:24] » bye bye
>> um so the next order of business are is
[44:29] finances and we've got some happy stuff
coming. And uh so our class account is
[44:35] up to $155,87,
[44:39] which is good. It's it's been steady.
And um our checking account, which is
[44:46] just used to pay small day-to-day
administrative costs, is a couple
[44:51] thousand dollar.
So that's good. Um,
[44:57] so two things. We did get the invoice
from Suffach County Water Authority,
[45:03] which I forwarded to you guys to take a
look at it to become familiar with how
[45:08] we're charged and looking at each
individual um person's charge. We're
[45:14] going to put that in executive session
because we're going to talk about
[45:19] » specific properties. So, we don't want
to do that publicly. So, I'm just going
[45:22] to set that aside. And um I don't know
Amber, do you want to talk about the new
[45:29] um happiness?
>> Yes.
[45:32] » Okay. I see the floor to Amber. She's
going to talk. Do you remember the
[45:36] analysis that we use to raise our rates?
>> She's going to talk about that.
[45:42] » Yes. I brought that up on screen here.
And you have two um handouts. Um, and
[45:48] the first one was the one prepared on
April 22nd before the closing of 2026.
[45:56] And so when you look at that, um, we had
made assumptions about what we thought
[46:03] fiscal year 25 would be or 26 would be
um, as an average of the last three
[46:10] years. um because 24 was low but then we
had found some missing um invoicing
[46:15] which got caught up in 2025. So looking
at 2026, we anticipated receiving
[46:23] Westlake water billings of about 97,000.
And then if we subtracted out what the
[46:30] fee is for S County Water Authority,
their operating amount, um we thought we
[46:36] were going to be shy just a little bit
and have to pay them.
[46:40] What ended up happening that year or you
know last year was that our um our
[46:47] billings was not 97,000 it was 106,596.
[46:53] So that ended up with us receiving a
check from Suffach County Water
[46:57] Authority for 72 $7,288.
[47:02] So we ended up putting more money into
reserves. So, we ended last year with
[47:07] 14794,
you know, basically $148,000.
[47:11] So, when Lisa just said what the the new
amount was, um that's why we had that
[47:16] bump up.
So, given that information, I went back
[47:21] and plugged in um what it would look
like if we increased our billing rates
[47:29] half a percent, which you approved in
the last in three months ago. or it got
[47:35] implemented.
So if we blow those rates out through
[47:39] the end of the
[47:43] um payback period of the loan, basically
we will end up not having to pay the
[47:51] county water authority. I mean this is
all an estimate. Um, but in 2020, no,
[47:58] 2035,
2036 would be the first time we would
[48:02] have to cut them a check. If they're if
we keep increasing half a percent a
[48:07] year, if they only increase 3% a year
and our staff in office expenses only go
[48:14] up 2 and a half% a year. So, there's
some, you know, variables in there, but
[48:20] we end up at the end of the term of the
loan of end having $210,000
[48:26] in our reserve account still. So, I'm
not recommending that we do anything
[48:32] right now. Um I think in the spring um
especially when we hear um from Joe next
[48:39] quarter what the summer consumption was
if it was up if it was down and we may
[48:44] you know we'll talk about the billings
you know what we want to um you know do
[48:48] with rates for the customers again. My
recommendation right now with not a lot
[48:54] of, you know, not knowing what the
future holds is just not raise the rates
[48:57] next year because even not raising the
rates through the end of the loan, we'd
[49:02] still end up with like $74,000
in the account. But I'm not going to I'm
[49:07] not going to recalculate the spreadsheet
until next year.
[49:11] You know, we'll make a decision what you
want to do with rates in the spring. See
[49:15] what the 2027 billing is
>> and look again to see how you went
[49:20] forward.
>> Yeah.
[49:21] » But um it was it was nice seeing that
check come in and nice plugging it in to
[49:26] see what it did to the sensitivity
analysis.
[49:30] » Yeah. Well, it's always nice if we can
avoid rate raising rates.
[49:33] » Yeah.
>> And a very healthy amount. But
[49:37] » Mhm. Yeah.
>> But we know that we we got at least uh
[49:41] two new uh services service hookups. So
that will increase an uptick. Yeah, but
[49:49] just a little bit. And we want to keep a
reserve. We want to make sure our
[49:52] reserves
>> don't dwindle down too much because we
[49:57] always have to make sure that we can pay
some kind of water authority.
[50:00] » Yeah.
>> The debt repayment. But as we get out
[50:03] to, you know, year 2040 and later, then
we can start to do a little bit more
[50:08] tweaking
>> to
[50:11] run down that balance if it hasn't
already started to run down differently
[50:15] from these assumptions. Of course, it
will be a different board
[50:20] [laughter] and it will maybe me will
still be here.
[50:25] » Ask a question.
>> Um yeah, I guess
[50:28] » uh as a potential customer one, um what
what is the likelihood of some seismic
[50:37] price increase
in this? I know this bond has you
[50:42] planned and
>> lay out. And it sounds like you've got
[50:46] a, you know, good handle on on on the
numbers. You know, has there been any
[50:52] talk about what could, you know, what
>> you mean like global warming?
[50:56] » Yeah. Something some something crazy.
>> We're all underwater,
[50:59] » right?
>> It's hard to say
[51:01] » something. Yeah.
>> I just wondered
[51:04] that likely is that you feel pretty
confident with the way things are going.
[51:10] Well, one thing, John, um when we went
under Suffach County Water Management
[51:15] Agreement and they they have elevated
our infrastructure to the standards that
[51:20] they require.
Everything they do and everything they
[51:26] will do from the point of management,
which was 2022
[51:30] to 2048 is all on their watch that
they're paying for everything.
[51:37] So, we're going to have the benefit of
having the uh the highest technologies,
[51:44] all kinds of testing and um
infrastructure, but we don't pay
[51:49] anymore. We've already paid everything.
>> So, those changes do get diffused
[51:54] through their entire customer.
>> Absolutely.
[51:56] » But the current customer,
[clears throat] if if the system is
[51:59] extended, does that change anything
>> if they were to extend it someplace?
[52:04] » Yeah. Yes. would definitely change.
Well, it would take the bonus off of the
[52:10] each us.
>> No, no, that wasn't my question. Uh will
[52:12] they extend it just on their own?
They'll pay for an extension.
[52:17] » No, that who like say for example
Westneck um or West Morland are
[52:22] requesting
that is going to come out of their
[52:26] pocket and I don't know how that's going
I I can't say how that's going to work.
[52:31] Would you have to set up your own water
district if you came on to West Neck
[52:34] Water District? Would we have to set up
a whole new structure? I don't know. But
[52:40] you're going to have to pay for the
mains and all of the lines and
[52:44] everything.
>> Wouldn't there be amendments and tweaks
[52:47] if something changed?
>> Yeah.
[52:49] » So, I mean, that would be taken care of
then. We just kind of uh it would
[52:54] diffuse the kind of the end of the world
uh for them for you.
[53:02] You get a piece of the end of the world.
But no, you'd end up paying
[53:07] » at the broken bridge.
>> Well, now that you bring that up, John,
[53:13] it's you know, you don't seem so
attractive to us anymore. [laughter]
[53:17] » Sorry. Yeah, I just shot myself in the
>> Well, part of it would be um however we
[53:23] determine to handle the districtricting,
right? So, Westneck Water District has a
[53:27] defined boundary. So it would be a
question of do we create a new district
[53:31] for the new area that's being serviced
or do we try to expand West Neck Water
[53:36] District to incorporate more area. So it
would really depend on on how it worked
[53:40] out um districtricting wise.
>> So hypothetically if because Suffach
[53:46] County does have a squad does have a
mandate to provide portable water. So if
[53:52] a new district was created
do they have to do that? I mean, they
[53:58] don't do it for free, so you have to pay
for it, but they will do it. Is that the
[54:01] deal? Is that how that works out?
>> That's where the 40% of the people
[54:05] » 40% of the people in the area have to
want it in order for it to be fiscally
[54:10] » and then does [clears throat] everyone
in that area have to pay? Once you have
[54:14] the district, you have to hook on
>> tied in.
[54:17] » They would pay county water.
>> No, I'm just charges. There are triggers
[54:22] that would require you tying in. Yeah,
but if you already have quotable water
[54:28] in your well, you're not forced to tie
in. It's if you're building a new pro,
[54:32] like a new house on a lot that doesn't
currently have water, you'd be
[54:38] so like
>> so it' be optional for those who live in
[54:40] that area, but their water is okay. They
don't have to sign on,
[54:45] » right? And then there are certain
triggers that might in the future force
[54:49] them to tie. Like let's say their water
quality diminishes, it's no longer
[54:52] portable. the health department will
say, "Well, you have a main right there.
[54:55] You need to tie it to drop a new well."
Right? Okay.
[55:00] » County Department of Health is say, "You
have to tie it."
[55:04] » Um, so there's a whole bunch of
different ways it could get handled. And
[55:07] so, let's say just hypothetically,
um, you know, uh, Suffach County Water
[55:13] Authority did put wells in St. James's
Woods. Well, then you would have the
[55:19] debate, do you start a new district? do
tie into an existing district where the
[55:23] boundaries I mean it becomes a process.
So
[55:26] » um there would be a lot negotiated.
>> Yeah.
[55:28] » Because when they were looking at that
they that was really because they're
[55:31] trying to solve the same problem.
>> Yeah.
[55:36] » Yeah. And then it had the benefit of
being an emergency backup to neck water
[55:40] district if possible. So you know could
serve multiple
[55:44] needs. Was that the only place
that was seriously consumed
[55:50] » so far?
>> Yeah.
[55:51] » Yeah.
>> And then and then the
[55:55] waste water treatment that was over by
the emergency services
[55:59] » that was a whole another
>> Yeah. And that that's pretty much the
[56:03] Yeah.
So going back to um this
[56:10] analysis uh
do we have anything that do we want to
[56:15] go with Amber's suggestion that we just
sit and wait
[56:19] » and see what our what the pumpage has
will be for 26
[56:23] » and uh
>> I mean we can't predict ahead of time
[56:25] but if we can avoid an increase and not
>> drive ourselves down yes by all means
[56:30] we're not into when it's a not for-p
profofit here we're not into making
[56:33] money
Yes. Yes.
[56:36] » Do you have any questions about this
analysis? No.
[56:39] » Okay.
>> But it could change. It could turn out
[56:41] that that's not the way things are
going. And you know, it could go both
[56:45] ways.
>> Well, just just as we saw [laughter]
[56:48] from earlier in the year spreadsheet to
this year's spread, you to this today's
[56:52] spreadsheet. It's like, yeah, we're
going to end with $1,500 reserve. Now
[56:56] we're going to end with a $215,000
reserve. I know it's crazy. Yeah.
[57:00] » Because we have so many years. So, I
like the idea of just being kind of
[57:06] consistent but no, you know, jerky
things, big changes.
[57:12] » And I have to say the first couple of
years were up and down because they put
[57:17] meters in. We lost water, we lost
consumption readings.
[57:22] » So, it it took it took a couple years to
work it out. Now I think this is a an
[57:28] optimistic but sort of much better.
>> It's not unrealistic.
[57:32] » It's not unrealistic. This is
>> the way hopefully it will operate. Um
[57:38] and you know the last two years have
been outliers just getting used to the
[57:41] system. So it's good stuff.
>> But I think the message I'm getting
[57:46] especially with Joan's comments is that
there are areas in this island that are
[57:50] populated that are desperate for quality
water. And I don't think we can just
[57:54] ignore it. I mean, there has to be some
solution offered
[57:59] » regardless of what people think about
Squa or, you know, what their prejudices
[58:03] are against a district.
[58:07] » Yeah.
>> Um, so that's it on the finances before
[58:13] we go into executive session. Do we have
any other anything else you want to
[58:17] bring up? I didn't put rules and
regulations down because I just thought
[58:21] we have enough to talk about, but we'll
get back to that maybe our next meeting.
[58:26] » That's good.
[58:30] » Yeah, we're gonna
take you out, John. Sorry.
[58:35] » Count your blessings. [laughter]
[58:41] » What a groovy shoot. [laughter]
[58:45] And if I may, Wendy, I don't know if you
remember, we we have met and spoken over
[58:50] the years.
>> John,
[58:54] I'm honored.
>> I'm a big fan.
[58:58] » So, thank you very much.
>> You're welcome. Yeah. Good luck.
[59:01] » Are you Are you feeling discouraged?
Does God do things?