1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,359 All right. The special council meeting of September 8th, 2026 is now called to 2 00:00:05,759 --> 00:00:10,719 order. If anyone attending the meeting here in the council chambers would like 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:16,000 to borrow some amplifying headphones, please let us know. All right. I don't 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:19,560 see anyone. Uh we are now going to stand for the pled of allegiance. 5 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:31,760 I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 6 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:38,840 republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and 7 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,840 justice for all. 8 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,879 » All right. Thank you. Mary, will you please do roll call? 9 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,239 » Yes, I will. >> Council member Blush 10 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,559 » here. >> Council member Aniscoco 11 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,879 » here. Mayor Sherman >> here. 12 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,879 » Deputy Mayor Staff is absent this evening. Council member Gilmore 13 00:00:52,480 --> 00:00:54,640 » here. >> Council member Gutierrez 14 00:00:54,079 --> 00:00:58,559 » here. >> All right. I have a statement on behalf 15 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:02,320 of Deputy Mayor Staff. She says, "In honor of fairness and equality to all 16 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:05,920 applicants, council members, and to our community, I fully recuse myself of the 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:10,159 entire council interview and appointment process at this time. Thank you to every 18 00:01:08,159 --> 00:01:13,280 applicant that showed interest and commitment to serve this wonderful 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:17,159 community. I look forward to working with our next council member. 20 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:22,720 So, next, the city manager, Mark Ziggler, has details for us about the 21 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:28,640 interview process. >> Great. Thank you, Mayor Council. Um, as 22 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:33,920 we discussed, uh, last week at the council meeting, um, the regular council 23 00:01:31,439 --> 00:01:40,799 meeting, um, we discussed a group interview process with all 10 of the 24 00:01:36,799 --> 00:01:45,040 applicants at this time. um as of right now. Anyway, we had two applicants 25 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:49,119 withdraw uh late last week and then we have two applicants that haven't shown 26 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:52,320 up to the room tonight. So, I'm open suggestions if you want to move further 27 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:55,600 without those group interviews. But, I'll talk about that first. We talked 28 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:59,600 about a group interview process. It'd be one question. All the candidates, 29 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:03,520 applicants would be in the room asked the same question. We moved to an 30 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:08,399 executive session at that point where the council would um exit the chambers 31 00:02:06,399 --> 00:02:12,560 to go to a meeting room in the civic center and discuss the qualifications 32 00:02:10,959 --> 00:02:17,120 that the applicants come in and make a decision on on where to move forward 33 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:22,160 from there. Um that process would be a nomination period where we take the 34 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:25,440 council would give nominations. Um at that point the mayor would ask to close 35 00:02:23,599 --> 00:02:28,640 the nominations if it felt felt like that you know there weren't any forward. 36 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:35,040 we we'd close the nomination portion with a motion and a second and then 37 00:02:32,319 --> 00:02:38,640 choose uh go through a voting process to choose the members and move forward from 38 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:42,400 there. At that point, we proposed that we'd go into individual question and 39 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:47,040 answer sessions where we'd have individual applicants here in the room. 40 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:52,560 Um the rest of the applicants we'd move um outside uh for transparency um sake 41 00:02:50,959 --> 00:02:57,599 and then go through a short interview process with each individual applicant. 42 00:02:54,959 --> 00:03:01,280 move then again to executive session and come back in to make the final decision 43 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:07,200 as nobody candidate walked in. I guess in 44 00:03:04,159 --> 00:03:11,280 the meantime right now um we have six six applicants so I'm certainly open to 45 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:18,480 suggestions if we want to stay with the agenda as proposed or move just move 46 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:24,080 into um the individual interviews um I'm open to that. So, since we have the 47 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:29,040 six that are here, I propose that we ask them all the questions um instead of 48 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:30,959 just the one and then narrowing it down. >> Second. 49 00:03:29,599 --> 00:03:35,840 » Yeah. Do the group interview. >> All right. Great. Okay. So, our process 50 00:03:33,519 --> 00:03:40,560 at this point would be to ask Mary to draw names. We have random names on um 51 00:03:38,879 --> 00:03:45,519 the raffle tickets. You're not necessarily winning anything other than 52 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:50,400 other opportunity to sit up at the table earlier than others. 53 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:52,799 » Yes. Um, so we'll have we'll draw the six names out of there. Mary, you can 54 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,799 just leave. You don't have to take anybody out unless you already did that. 55 00:03:54,239 --> 00:03:56,720 » I didn't. >> Okay. You don't take anybody out. We'll 56 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,840 just skip through that. >> Okay. I think maybe 57 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:06,080 » All right, we're at seven. >> Okay, we're at seven. So, sorry. 58 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,920 » We will go back to the original plan. Is that 59 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,080 » You want to interview all of them? >> Yeah, I think we interview all of them. 60 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,879 Why not? >> Does everybody else want to still 61 00:04:11,439 --> 00:04:14,799 interview all of them since all seven are here? 62 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,919 » Yeah, might be able to do the regular. >> Okay, go ahead. We can nominate them. 63 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:22,479 body gets a chance. >> So, as I said, so Mary will pull the 64 00:04:20,639 --> 00:04:27,040 names. That'll be the order. First name will be first first up. They'll take the 65 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:32,560 hot seat and we'll move through those. If uh the applicant that is not in there 66 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:37,120 uh is in there but not here, we'll just skip on to the next number. So, right. 67 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,600 » Okay. So, we'll still assign them a spot to see these. 68 00:04:37,919 --> 00:04:42,160 » No, no, no. We'll just skip through that just so you don't have to dig through 69 00:04:40,639 --> 00:04:43,280 and pull them out if that's okay with council. 70 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,199 » Yep. >> Yeah. Perhaps. So if we agreed that 71 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:50,560 we've reached the deadline, then basically there's seven people. 72 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,680 » We're going to go ahead and ask them all the questions. 73 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:57,520 » Oh, no, that's fine. I mean, but we if the eighth person comes in in the next 74 00:04:55,199 --> 00:05:03,199 five minutes or are we done now? >> I don't know who it is, honestly. So, 75 00:04:59,919 --> 00:05:05,360 » I am very much hoping that um we don't have to change the rules at this point. 76 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:09,280 » Yeah. >> Okay. 77 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:12,960 » All right. So I >> is that is that a consensus then council 78 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:15,680 that we'll proceed with the individuals that are that are here at this point? 79 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,280 » Correct. Okay. >> All right. Sounds good. 80 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,720 » I appreciate the clarification. >> All right. 81 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,400 » Okay. So >> if you will, Mary. 82 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:29,360 » Okay. Are we good? I'm gonna do it from the corner here. Turn the microphone on. 83 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:31,280 It's my bowl. >> Okay. 84 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:36,720 » We got faith in you. >> The chief is watching over. 85 00:05:33,919 --> 00:05:43,360 » That's right. Legit, guys. Okay. So first will be applicant seven which is 86 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:46,400 Jason Sap. >> Okay. 87 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:50,880 » And then next 88 00:05:47,919 --> 00:05:53,880 will be applicant two which is Walter Dilk. 89 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:08,039 » Okay. This I think is the applicant that is here. Mr. 90 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,039 Y okay three. 91 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:16,120 » Next is applicant six which is David Reza Reza. 92 00:06:22,639 --> 00:06:28,840 Applicant eight which is Pete Stevenson. is fourth 93 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:37,639 and then fifth will be applicant five which is Kenneth Moley. 94 00:06:41,919 --> 00:06:48,120 Sixth will be applicant number four which is Sam Lumis. 95 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:56,039 And our last interview slot will be applicant three, which is Ross 96 00:06:53,039 --> 00:06:56,039 Gallagher. 97 00:06:57,919 --> 00:07:02,000 » Pardon me. >> That's it. 98 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:06,319 » That's it. Terrific. Okay, >> let me make sure I have everybody here. 99 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:10,240 You just give me a quick minute to get a paperwork straight and everybody here to 100 00:07:08,319 --> 00:07:12,880 get their paperwork straight if they so choose. 101 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,639 » So, um, I think everybody's doing anyway. 102 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:18,319 » Great. At Hopkins, if you don't mind, we are going 103 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:22,400 to ask you other than Mr. Sap is your first to get to step up to the to the 104 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:25,919 plate here. Um, we've got a table. I've got some water we'll take out with you 105 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:29,919 if you don't mind and we'll come out and get you when we're when we're finished 106 00:07:27,599 --> 00:07:35,160 and uh for for fairness and transparency. Um, we appreciate that. 107 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,479 » Thank you. 108 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:48,199 Feel this overkill now. 109 00:08:04,479 --> 00:08:10,479 » This computer is ridiculous. >> You don't need it right now, do you? 110 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:19,479 But they're all here. >> Yeah, they're right here. 111 00:08:14,479 --> 00:08:19,479 » Oh, yes. Let me clarify that, too. 112 00:08:19,919 --> 00:08:27,919 » All right. >> Here's a hard question. 113 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:32,360 » No, I got to talk to those. >> I wor 114 00:08:33,839 --> 00:08:39,599 already. >> So, we'll rotate through questions. 115 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,599 » Okay. 116 00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:45,560 Okay. 117 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:57,640 » Council, do you all have copies of the questions? Yes. 118 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,640 » Yes. Yes. Yes. 119 00:08:59,519 --> 00:09:06,160 » Make I'm going to make sure somebody gets off the ladder before we start. 120 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:09,120 » Oh, bit of a distraction. All right. Done. 121 00:09:07,519 --> 00:09:13,560 I hope you followed all safety protocols. 122 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,560 » Check this out. 123 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,839 » All right. 124 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:22,360 » Thank you. >> It's actually not bad. 125 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:28,160 » All right. And before we get started, does anybody need a cough drop ahead of 126 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:32,880 time? >> All right. Seen that. Okay. Great. 127 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:36,080 » And council, for clarification on the questions, there's number one and 128 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,480 there's an alternate. Just skip the alternate. Okay. 129 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:42,320 » That you'll see under number one here. >> Got it. 130 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:44,720 » Just skip that one and then um >> and then we'll move on. 131 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,519 » Pardon me. >> So, I'll do the first and then George 132 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,000 will be the second. Third. Is that how we're going to do that? 133 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:56,160 » That that works for me. And then and then you'll have a second one. Mayor. 134 00:09:51,680 --> 00:10:00,000 » Oh, great. Okay. Sounds good. >> So, I'm going to ask question number one 135 00:09:58,399 --> 00:10:03,279 and then we'll go this way, George. And all the way through if that works, 136 00:10:01,519 --> 00:10:09,600 everybody. Great. Then everybody gets to ask a question at least one. Okay, 137 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:13,200 fantastic. Are we ready? >> Yes, ma'am. 138 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:18,880 » All right, so um we're going to ask question number one, Jason. Do you have 139 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:26,959 any specific local issues that motivated you to apply for the council vacancy? 140 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:30,279 » Um I'd have to say my biggest 141 00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:38,240 issue that concerns me is our 142 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:43,920 um emergency management plan. 143 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:48,480 I think that that is something that needs u 144 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:56,560 immediate attention and I would like to see us be able to uh 145 00:10:53,920 --> 00:11:00,959 turn that into a robust uh plan for our community so that we're 146 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:06,480 not caught off guard in case the unspeakable should happen. 147 00:11:04,079 --> 00:11:08,720 All right. >> Go ahead. 148 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:12,240 » All right. Given the homelessness and affordable housing are complex 149 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:16,320 legislative matters with divided community perspectives, what approach 150 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:22,720 would you take to these challenges as a council member? 151 00:11:18,959 --> 00:11:29,920 » Uh, as a council member, um, I think that we need to 152 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:35,279 try to look at this as a systemic issue. Um, I believe that we'd have the 153 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:40,560 resources available, nonprofit organizations and and all the, like I 154 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:47,040 said, the resources that are available for the homeless and and the unhoused. 155 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:54,079 Um, we need to make sure that those resources are presented to those people 156 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:58,959 that are in the highest need and that they're available, 157 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:06,639 that they know what those resources are. I know if that would entitle community 158 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:11,040 outreach um or just you know some some form of 159 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:17,040 disseminating that information but um I'm aware that we have about believe the 160 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:23,920 last count is 2,180 services that are available to people 161 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:30,720 here in in our area in Mason County. there's services tailored to just about 162 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:33,839 every individual situation. So I think I think we need to make sure 163 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:37,839 that those services are available for those people and if if they refuse the 164 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:45,120 services um repeatedly and we need to look at 165 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:50,959 some other alternative um method to to try to help these people is I do believe 166 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:57,040 that we need to get our community to be healthy and 167 00:12:54,079 --> 00:13:03,200 thriving. Everybody needs to be doing well. So that's that is 168 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:08,079 concern that I I have as far as how we can reach out to these people and give 169 00:13:04,959 --> 00:13:11,120 them those services. >> Great. 170 00:13:09,519 --> 00:13:16,440 » Can you describe a time when you had to balance your personal beliefs with the 171 00:13:12,560 --> 00:13:16,440 broader interest of the community? 172 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:22,920 Um, I mean, 173 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:36,800 my personal beliefs typically take a backseat to the facts. 174 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:43,519 Uh, I don't I don't let my my personal opinions are my own and I don't assume 175 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:52,160 that anybody shares those other than me. So, I I tried to the facts and and try 176 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:58,000 to try to make my decisions based on the data instead of what my personal beliefs 177 00:13:55,279 --> 00:14:03,120 might may be because my my beliefs could change. Um I'm openminded. So if I'm 178 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:08,480 presented with new information that I wasn't previously aware of, I I can 179 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:13,519 change my mind and and come to different conclusions. So personal beliefs aren't 180 00:14:11,519 --> 00:14:19,199 aren't something that that drive my decision making. 181 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:25,480 solely. It's going to be more on the facts and data that represents. 182 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,480 » Thank you. 183 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,720 » Sorry, just taking a quick note. >> No, you're fine. 184 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:39,440 » All right. Question number three. Actually, I guess this is four. What 185 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:44,079 policy area do you believe will have the greatest impact on the city's future 186 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:50,639 over the next three to five years? public safety would have to be my answer 187 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:57,440 for that one. Um, I think we we obviously have some contention on some 188 00:14:54,720 --> 00:15:03,839 of the resources that we've given our police department here recently. Um, I 189 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:09,120 think that we need to we need to hammer that out and 190 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:15,120 straighten it out so that everybody's, you know, on the same page or at least 191 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:21,839 we have a shared uh opinion on on how we should handle that situation. But I I 192 00:15:18,399 --> 00:15:27,360 believe that that public safety uh over the next 3 to 5 years would be the 193 00:15:25,199 --> 00:15:37,199 greatest impact for our city. We need we need to a strong um police force that 194 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:43,240 that is uh enabled to enforce our ordinances and and regulations here in 195 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,240 the city. 196 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:50,000 » Okay. >> All right. How would you prioritize the 197 00:15:47,839 --> 00:15:54,560 allocation of city resources while balancing community expectations for 198 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:58,519 services during periods of limited revenue or budget constraints? 199 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,120 Um 200 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:11,120 well the community expectations for services 201 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:17,680 fluctuates. Uh it's going to go up and down with public opinion. Uh our 202 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:22,880 resources are pretty static. What we have to work with 203 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:31,040 is what we have to work with. So, we're going to have to make the best decisions 204 00:16:25,759 --> 00:16:38,160 with those resources to provide community services for the general 205 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:44,160 community and not not um cater to any specific uh groups or 206 00:16:42,399 --> 00:16:50,560 individuals. We're going to need to 207 00:16:47,519 --> 00:16:56,320 focus on on the revenues that we do have. We have um 208 00:16:53,759 --> 00:17:01,440 you know, we have a budget currently that's that's 209 00:16:58,399 --> 00:17:08,480 in a in a decent state, but you know, that that could 210 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:12,880 change um with, you know, taxes depending on what the the 211 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:20,799 governor or the state legislature decides to to pass uh with their laws. 212 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:28,000 So, we could be restrained on on the our ability to utilize those funds. 213 00:17:25,039 --> 00:17:34,559 So, we would we would have to look at what's necessary for the greatest uh 214 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:42,559 impact for our community and I would I would say those things would fall in um 215 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:49,760 areas like public safety uh like our our pavement index um you know our water uh 216 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:54,480 infrastructure has really 217 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:58,880 » focus a lot of attention on that especially since we're looking at 218 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:03,400 expanded housing market here in the midst of 219 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:11,360 » All right. And then it looks like 220 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:16,160 um I get to the next question which says is what does ethical public service mean 221 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:24,960 to you and how would you practice it as a council member? 222 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:32,360 um ethical public service. Uh that I would interpret that as being 223 00:18:27,679 --> 00:18:32,360 transparent and and open. 224 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:42,000 I would practice that as a council member by following all the rules and 225 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:48,000 and regulations and policies that we already have in place for council 226 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:54,559 members such as, you know, all your communications are open to FOYA 227 00:18:50,880 --> 00:19:01,080 requests. And yeah, other than that, you know, ethics 228 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,080 would be 229 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:15,600 I would I would have to say maintaining, like I said, a transparent 230 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:23,400 position so that that people know where you stand, you know, as far as any 231 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:23,400 policies or issues go. 232 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:31,280 » And I think that's everything. Can I can I suggest that they get like one minute 233 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:34,799 closing and tells us about who they are >> because the public doesn't know. We we 234 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:38,160 we know >> it's up to the council. Absolutely. We 235 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,880 just we have to allow everybody to do that. 236 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:43,679 » Like just like one minute or something. >> I mean, 237 00:19:41,679 --> 00:19:47,600 » can we get a clock? >> Mark. 238 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:50,160 » I got two. That's why he gets the big bucks. 239 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:55,160 » Can we get a >> I mean we know who they are. 240 00:19:55,200 --> 00:20:00,960 Do you want it? No. Do you want it? Do you want it specifically at one minute 241 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:05,679 or just kind of raise my hand when we make one and then we can good? 242 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:08,000 » Okay. Go ahead. Tell us a little bit about yourself at about one minute, 243 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:14,960 Jason. >> All right. My name is Jason Sap. I'm a 244 00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:22,320 husband and a father of six children, ages 19 to one. Um, I'm work here 245 00:20:19,039 --> 00:20:27,840 locally. Um, we've lived here in Shelton. My wife and I moved our family 246 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:36,159 up here in 2018. So, we're living here for eight years. Um, the first couple 247 00:20:32,159 --> 00:20:41,600 three, four years we lived uh in the UG and then we moved downtown and we've 248 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:48,960 been participating in the local government for the last two and a half 249 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:54,640 years. Um, I'm I'm here because I want to make sure that Shelton is a thriving 250 00:20:52,320 --> 00:21:02,720 community and one that is safe for families of all backgrounds to raise 251 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:06,080 their children today and and tomorrow and in the future. 252 00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:08,960 » Perfect. >> Right on. 253 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:13,600 » Great. That worked out really well. >> Thank you very much. 254 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:18,080 » Thank you. Appreciate it. Thanks. Good suggestion. 255 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,360 » That's because we don't know. Nobody else knows, 256 00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:24,520 » right? >> Yeah. Give them an extra 60 seconds. 257 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,720 » All right. 258 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:53,720 All right. Thank you for coming. 259 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,840 » Are you ready? >> I am ready. 260 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,840 » Okay, great. So, I'm going to start you off with question number one. 261 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:05,520 » Awesome. >> Uh, 262 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:06,559 you're Walter Scott Dilk, correct? Okay. And 263 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,240 » my name. >> Perfect. I want to make sure we got the 264 00:22:07,679 --> 00:22:14,960 right person every time. Great. >> Perfect question. All right. So, um, 265 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:20,080 first question for you is, do you have any specific local issues that motivated 266 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:30,960 you to apply for the council vacancy? >> Good question. I, um, I do have a trans 267 00:22:24,559 --> 00:22:41,440 son and I think, uh, pride proclamation is probably the major focus of why I put 268 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:47,200 my hat in the ring. I also was a boy scout in Grace Har County when I was 269 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:54,559 growing up. I grew up in Westport and so civic responsibility was something that 270 00:22:50,240 --> 00:23:01,520 I cherish and felt like I wasn't able to do in the past. So I really when I saw 271 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:06,240 this opportunity I thought okay that's what I want to do. 272 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:10,559 » All right. Given the homelessness and affordable 273 00:23:08,159 --> 00:23:14,720 housing are complex legislative matters with divided community perspectives, 274 00:23:13,039 --> 00:23:20,640 what approach would you take to these challenges as a council member? Well, 275 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:27,440 initially I want to say foundationally I think um homelessness 276 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:37,919 and addiction and mental health are my key focuses in my career and um they all 277 00:23:33,919 --> 00:23:46,400 surround the the problem of homelessness and um I think that kindness over 278 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:54,159 anything else is the most most important thing we can do making sure our citizens 279 00:23:50,159 --> 00:24:00,640 are cared for and not push them off to Olympia or whatever other community they 280 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:06,520 might have. So having a functional response for their health health and 281 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,520 safety. 282 00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:11,840 » All right. Can you describe a time when you had to balance your personal beliefs 283 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:18,960 with the broader interest of a community? Um there's all types of that 284 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:26,640 in my career as a therapist, a mental health therapist. I um I 285 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:33,360 have been therapist for many different types of people and it's a single 286 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:43,360 oneonone event unless I'm doing a couple which I do um on occasion and they have 287 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:49,840 many different beliefs and system and um both political and religious that I 288 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:55,039 don't aspire to or don't necessarily agree with, but if they work 289 00:24:52,720 --> 00:25:00,720 for that client, then they have to work for the people. And I think being a 290 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:10,000 representative is balancing at all the time. I do think that um even though we 291 00:25:06,159 --> 00:25:16,320 may see things differently, it's it's a good politics is about finding the 292 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:19,480 compromise. >> Thank you. 293 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:30,000 All right. What policy area do you believe will have the greatest impact on 294 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,480 the city's future over the next three to five years? 295 00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:39,440 » Was that policy? >> Yes. What policy area? Um 296 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:46,080 well ex I mean growth I think is the most important thing I think you know to 297 00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:56,080 um have a a serviceable community we need to um be available for people 298 00:25:51,039 --> 00:26:01,520 moving in and expansion and um support that and all that that brings. So I 299 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:05,279 think being an attractive community is important in that regard. 300 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,720 I'm gonna interrupt. Scott, I apologize. The questions are right in front of you 301 00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:13,600 if you need to reference any of those. >> Thank you. 302 00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:16,000 » Um, we're on number four now. >> Yes. 303 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:22,159 » Okay. >> Okay. Is that 304 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:27,520 okay? How would you prioritize the allocation of city resources while 305 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:32,080 balancing community expectations for services during periods of limited 306 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:39,120 revenue or budget constraints? prioritizing obviously we need to 307 00:26:34,559 --> 00:26:44,159 prioritize safety and health right um in my perspective I think that means all 308 00:26:41,679 --> 00:26:52,080 kinds of health including mental health that's my key area but I also think that 309 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:59,520 you know safe water making sure the police force is available and other um 310 00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:06,400 necessary needs like power and infrastructure and 311 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:12,279 all of that are probably the priorities in any community including Shelton 312 00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:12,279 Washington. 313 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:19,039 » Thank you. >> All right. And then 314 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:23,840 next question is, what does ethical public service mean to you and how would 315 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:34,480 you practice it as a council member? ethical is something that is 316 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:41,600 fully um core to my value system. Um overarching and unchanging because I 317 00:27:37,679 --> 00:27:48,559 believe ethical is morality. Um I don't necessarily abide by a faith 318 00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:54,799 anymore but I do abide by an ethical consistently overhonest 319 00:27:51,679 --> 00:28:03,600 um principle in which guides my everyday. So, I'd say that um balancing 320 00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:12,080 that as a council member means making sure things are running according 321 00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:18,880 to rules, making sure um we engage in the community in a 322 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:27,120 disclosing important information that is necessary for making 323 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:32,720 a good decision about any kind kind of policy or important concept to the 324 00:28:30,399 --> 00:28:37,200 community. >> All right. And then our last question 325 00:28:35,039 --> 00:28:40,480 for you is you have one minute to tell us what you'd like to tell us about 326 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:45,520 yourself. >> All right. So I, as you know, I'm 327 00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:51,600 Scottdale. I grew up in Westport, Washington. So not too far away. Um, 328 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:58,000 Grace Harbor. I've been in Olympia area before I moved here. um most of my life 329 00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:04,880 where I graduated both from both Evergreen State College and St. 330 00:29:00,159 --> 00:29:10,799 Martins's University for a masters in counseling psychology. Um, I, as I 331 00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:18,480 mentioned before, in my community in Westport, I was 332 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:24,880 member of the scout troop and have a foundation of 333 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:32,240 moral, ethical, responsible decisions. Um, some things that uh I value are 334 00:29:29,919 --> 00:29:36,320 family, um, friends, 335 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:42,640 community. I enjoy walking. I have a dog that many 336 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:47,120 of you have probably seen cuz I walk down railroad almost every 337 00:29:46,159 --> 00:29:50,320 day. >> You're at a minute. You'll 338 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:55,399 » wrap it up right there. I appreciate it. All right. You good? Okay. 339 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,399 » Thank you so much. 340 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,840 So, uh, David 341 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,480 Hello council. >> Hello 342 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:39,360 David. >> Is your last name different on your aim 343 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,720 tag than it is on here? >> It is David Resa. 344 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,360 » Okay. Thank you. >> Res is normally easier. So I put that 345 00:30:44,399 --> 00:30:48,880 down just so >> Okay. 346 00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:52,080 » Pronunciation. Also, sorry I was a little late, guys. I have a 347 00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:56,080 four-year-old. >> All right. Okay. Are you ready? 348 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,640 » Okay. >> And the questions, David, are right in 349 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,520 front of you. If you need to reference those throughout the interview, feel 350 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,559 free. We'll start at the top. Even though they're 351 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,279 » there's a redundant number there for number one. We'll start at the top. 352 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:11,440 » So, we'll start with question number one. And do you have any specific local 353 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:16,320 issues that motivated you to apply for the council vacancy? 354 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:22,880 » Uh, not exactly. Um, I had a specific local issue with the food trucks that 355 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:27,679 made me interested in city council. Um, but I don't 356 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:31,840 I wouldn't say it made me want to be a part of city council. It just let me 357 00:31:29,919 --> 00:31:35,440 understand who's in it, how it works. Um, I always pretty much just thought 358 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:40,080 there's a mayor and the mayor controls everything. And I I really like this. 359 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:44,720 It's like a little bit of a democracy in it and some checks and balances and I I 360 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:49,440 just think that's an awesome thing. And uh that's actually what made me want to 361 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:53,440 do it. But I found you guys from local issues. 362 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:57,440 » All right. >> Given that homelessness and affordable 363 00:31:55,279 --> 00:32:01,279 housing are complex legislative matters with divided community perspectives, 364 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:08,159 what approach would you take to these challenges as a council member? 365 00:32:04,159 --> 00:32:12,080 » Um okay. So that's difficult. I I have my own 366 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:16,720 opinions on a lot of stuff, but what I'm really interested in is figuring out 367 00:32:13,919 --> 00:32:21,519 what the town themselves want. And I've noticed it's really divided on this. We 368 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:26,960 have a lot of uh lot of people who live here who all they want to do is help 369 00:32:23,919 --> 00:32:32,480 them and they they want to do um more programs for the homeless and unhoused. 370 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:36,720 I think that's what they prefer. And the other side of town just can't stand 371 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:41,440 them. Couldn't care less. And I I think it's 372 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:45,760 my opinion wouldn't matter as much as what the town wants and what the people 373 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:51,279 want and I I'd have to vote and care more in their direction. Um, so my I 374 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:55,760 mean my approach I think would just be to listen to what the town folk or the 375 00:32:54,320 --> 00:33:00,240 constituents is the right word. I like town folk. We're a small town, you know, 376 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:04,640 other than we have a Walmart, we're really a small town. So it it it's more 377 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:10,240 what the town folk would want and what they would like to do with that. Um I I 378 00:33:08,159 --> 00:33:14,080 think what I would need to also do is be part of the research in it like all the 379 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:19,120 study sessions that you guys have. I think we my best bet would be to listen 380 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:24,240 really good to everything like that and then try to figure out what the people 381 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:28,399 themselves want and weigh the two together. You know, you got to care 382 00:33:25,919 --> 00:33:32,880 about the people, but the facts and and what's uncovered in study sessions 383 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:36,080 matter almost as much. And I'd weigh them together before I put anything to 384 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:42,000 vote. I wouldn't just use my own personal opinions uh for 385 00:33:39,919 --> 00:33:46,799 uh affordable housing or grants or anything like that or what to do with 386 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:50,640 homeless or unhoused. Uh and I I think it would also depend on how they are 387 00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:55,519 homeless and unhoused. If they're just vagrants or if they're transient or if 388 00:33:52,880 --> 00:34:02,360 they're uh addicted to substances and they actually need help. It it would it 389 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,360 would vary kind of case by case. 390 00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:09,040 Can you can describe a time when you had to balance your personal beliefs with 391 00:34:06,399 --> 00:34:13,280 the broader interest of a community? >> Yeah. Um, 392 00:34:11,359 --> 00:34:18,079 this ties back straight to my business. Um, well, I own a trucking company. That 393 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:23,040 that part's not it. I'm also a part owner in a food truck and we sell 394 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:27,599 seafood. I do not eat seafood. Um, do not care for seafood one bit. But when 395 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:31,760 we wanted to open this, we actually went online and we went on Shelton Talks, a 396 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:35,599 local group in town, and we asked the town to take a vote on what kind of food 397 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:41,679 they wanted, if they wanted a new pizza place, a seafood place, uh if they 398 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:47,119 wanted a barbecue place, and our highest votes ended up being to do a seafood 399 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:51,200 place. So, we now own a seafood truck and serve seafood and cheese steak 400 00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:58,720 sandwiches, which was, I believe, the second highest vote. uh regardless of 401 00:34:54,399 --> 00:35:01,720 what my personal beliefs were for it. >> Okay. 402 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:11,280 » What policy area do you believe will have the greatest impact on the city's 403 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:17,119 future over the next 3 to 5 years? Um, 404 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:20,800 whatever we do with housing, um, I believe, 405 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:26,960 uh, council member Miguel said we are one of the top 10 growing, uh, zones in 406 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:33,440 the nation. So, I think that everything aside, um, most important thing is how 407 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:38,079 are we going to handle that growth? I think our businesses at this point can 408 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:43,440 pretty much handle it. our housing. I don't think can um I think what we need 409 00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:48,320 to do is focus on what we can do for developments in town. 410 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:51,839 I I think we're kind of pretty tight in town. I think a lot would go to the 411 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:59,040 county and we'd probably have to work with them on how to uh expand our public 412 00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:04,079 utilities to assist with that. Um, but any 413 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:08,720 any infrastructure that we have in the city limits would need to be figured out 414 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:13,359 pretty soon before we have too many people here and all of our public 415 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:17,160 utilities end up um overwhelmed and unable to handle it. 416 00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:26,560 How would you prioritize the allocation of city resources while balancing 417 00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:32,359 community expectations for services during periods of limited or budget 418 00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:32,359 constraints? 419 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:40,560 » Oh man, that one's a good one. Um, I guess I would go I think we would 420 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:47,440 triage it. I think we would start with like most important emergent kind of 421 00:36:43,359 --> 00:36:53,119 needs which would basically be like um how to handle sewer, how to handle 422 00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:58,079 garbage, um law enforcement and 423 00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:03,760 our roads and bridges would be the most important first and that would be like 424 00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:09,599 level one. Um I would when we have limited revenue and budget, I would look 425 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:14,720 at where we can trim fat. um what we can do if if there's any assets that we can 426 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:20,320 that we own that we aren't making use of if we're able to rent them or lease 427 00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:24,960 them. Um any sort of grants we can get. I 428 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:28,160 remember hearing in city council that uh the city has issues. Sometimes they're 429 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:32,720 too busy to try to find grants. I think we can try to find some grants to help 430 00:37:29,839 --> 00:37:37,680 make that up depending on what they are and what the problems are. And then I 431 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:44,560 would put stuff like um events that are net loss. I would put 432 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:50,160 those on the back burner until the city is not net negative um in order to try 433 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:54,960 to help balance the budget as good as I can. I mean I need help with the rest of 434 00:37:52,000 --> 00:38:00,079 the council to figure out what that can be trimmed and what can't. I think that 435 00:37:57,839 --> 00:38:04,800 would be the best way is to start with a triage and go from like level five 436 00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:10,320 urgent to level one. Very nice to have but unfeasible. 437 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:14,640 » All right. Uh what does ethical public service mean 438 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:19,359 to you and how would you practice it as a council member? 439 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:25,839 » Um I think the best thing to do is to not be part of quidd proquo. I don't I 440 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:31,760 think that um anything that would benefit my businesses financially, which 441 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:37,119 I don't think my trucking company really does much work in town, so I ignore 442 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:43,680 that. Um our food truck is in town and there's a lot of uh there's a big mess 443 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:47,520 going on with that right now. I would not want anything to do with that while 444 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:51,920 I'm on council. I would I mean I'd make my opinions heard, but voting wise, I 445 00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:58,800 would want to recuse myself from everything involving that. Um or anybody 446 00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:02,560 I know if it's someone I know personally and a vote comes to do something with 447 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:08,480 them or something that would affect them, whether it benefit or hurt them, 448 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:12,800 uh or their business, I I just think I want nothing to do with it. Uh, I'd make 449 00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:19,040 it very clear to the council and or the public if need be that I have an 450 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:23,440 interest in this or I know somebody that means something to me that has an 451 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:27,920 interest in it and I have no comment on it or I I want nothing to do with it 452 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:32,960 when it comes time to do something for it. I think that's the most important 453 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:36,960 part of being in council is that is you can't do what's beneficial for you. You 454 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:40,480 have to do what's beneficial for the town folk themselves. 455 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,359 Just a second. 456 00:39:52,320 --> 00:40:01,359 Okay. And so our last question for you is in approximately one minute, what 457 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:08,560 would you like us to know about you? >> Oh man. Um, let's think. Um, I don't 458 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:14,640 know. I am I've been here for 5 years. I was a big believer on if you come 459 00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:18,960 somewhere, you don't change it to what you had before. Um, so like I immigrated 460 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:24,800 from Canada to the US and became a US citizen when I was four, I 461 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:28,880 do not believe anything that we had in Canada specifically should be forced on 462 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:33,440 our country. And since I'm an immigrant here and I was a guest here for so long, 463 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:39,119 I had no business changing that. Um, I moved from a very Republican state to 464 00:40:35,359 --> 00:40:46,560 here and I don't believe I should force all of what I had there growing up onto 465 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:51,119 a town if they see it differently. Um, so that's my biggest I mean I've been 466 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:56,160 here 5 years. I feel like I I deserve to change a little bit of stuff as long as 467 00:40:53,680 --> 00:41:01,040 the general consensus of the town agrees with it. But I believe that anything I 468 00:40:58,319 --> 00:41:07,680 grew up with, since I voluntarily moved here, I I should follow what this town 469 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:12,640 wants over what I want myself. And I've always felt like that pretty much 470 00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:18,240 anytime I've voted um or uh taken part anything like that. 471 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,560 » All right. Well, thank you so much. Appreciate that. 472 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,839 How about that? 473 00:41:55,599 --> 00:42:01,280 questions. >> All right, 474 00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:05,359 Peter Stevenson. >> I'm here today. 475 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:09,280 » So, good. Welcome. So, are you ready? 476 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:15,040 » Um, give me just a moment to look over these questions 477 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,960 » and we will verbally ask them also. >> Yeah. 478 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:21,680 » All right. Okay. So, question number one, do you 479 00:42:19,839 --> 00:42:26,400 have specific local issues that motivated you to apply for a council 480 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:31,839 vacancy? >> I mean, specific motivation on issues 481 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:38,160 being things that have happened in public like uh the fact that Goose Lake 482 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:42,160 caught fire. Uh that that piqu my interest learning about the super fun 483 00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:48,720 cleanup site, you know, that that definitely motivated me to take a closer 484 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:54,720 look. Um, but no, I'm uh I'm here because I want to improve Shelton and I 485 00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:58,960 think I can be an asset to doing so. >> All right. 486 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:03,280 » Given that homelessness and affordable housing are complex legislative matters 487 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:08,839 with divided community perspectives, what approach would you take to these 488 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,839 challenges as a council member? 489 00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:20,800 I mean the elephant in the room is the over 490 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:25,440 overlappinging of problems of mental health issues, homelessness and drug 491 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:30,000 addiction can't be ignored. It's not easy to untangle. It's not easy to 492 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:35,520 separate. But human beings are human beings. Everybody needs a place to live. 493 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:40,839 I advocate doing what we can for the folks that can accept the help extended. 494 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:47,920 All right. Can you describe a time when you had to balance your personal beliefs 495 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:55,440 with the broader interest of a community? 496 00:43:50,240 --> 00:44:00,880 » Um, yeah. I uh I myself am agnostic. I don't believe in a god, but I don't see 497 00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:06,079 proof that there isn't one either. And that's come up a lot in everyday life in 498 00:44:04,319 --> 00:44:11,359 simple terms of taking the pledge of allegiance to that flag earlier in this 499 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:15,200 council game. Now, under God, I don't personally believe in, but I understand 500 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,119 the ethic behind it and I appreciate that. 501 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,200 » Thank you. >> All right. 502 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:25,839 » What policy area do you believe will have the greatest impact on the city's 503 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,839 future over the next three to five years? 504 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:38,560 That's a complicated question. The policy impact that I think could 505 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:46,040 greatest impact I mean if if we're talking about 3 to 506 00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:46,040 five years 507 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:53,520 I think it would be education reform. I mean every every day I drive past the 508 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:59,040 banner that celebrates our literacy rate and I'd like to see that number continue 509 00:44:55,119 --> 00:45:04,839 to rise. I think that does the improved public. I think that's the most benefit 510 00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:04,839 us directly. 511 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:14,480 » How would you prioritize allocation of city resources while balancing community 512 00:45:11,839 --> 00:45:19,079 expectations for services during periods of limited revenue or budget 513 00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:19,079 constraints? 514 00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:36,560 I mean when it comes to priority alloc sorry nervous I apologize when it comes 515 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:41,760 to prioritizing what funds to distribute obviously we can't have lights and 516 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:47,040 generators turning off so people's lives and unfortunately products in some cases 517 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:52,240 come first you know uh that being you know a supermarket loses power I would 518 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:57,359 prefer to keep those freezers on rather than lose the stock of the entire 519 00:45:53,920 --> 00:46:03,040 supermarket. Um I I think I would take those examples and try to apply that to 520 00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:11,319 the town's budget. What cannot be sacrificed and what unfortunately could 521 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:11,319 we provide the volunteer power to cover? 522 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:19,359 » All right. And my next question for you is, what 523 00:46:17,359 --> 00:46:22,960 does ethical public service mean to you and how would you practice it as a 524 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:29,280 council member? >> Uh, ethical public service for me is 525 00:46:26,319 --> 00:46:34,160 doing the best that I can for what my constituents believe is the appropriate 526 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:39,920 path forward while also following the guidance of the law. 527 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:43,280 I genuinely think there are a lot of 528 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:48,000 people that are too quick to go, let's burn it all down. And There are also way 529 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:51,200 too many people that are saying it works perfectly. 530 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:56,160 So for ethical public service, yeah, I I 531 00:46:53,680 --> 00:47:00,280 want the job to be done transparently for the betterment of the community. 532 00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:11,359 All right. And then our last question for you this evening is you have 533 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:17,200 approximately one minute to tell us whatever you want to tell us about you. 534 00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:23,680 Um, yeah. My name is Pete Stevenson. Uh, I grew up in New York. Um, about 20 535 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:29,359 minutes outside of New York City. Uh, I've been in Shelton for over a decade 536 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:33,119 at this point. When I was 21, I got my wilderness emergency medical technician 537 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:41,119 license. Uh, I did urban and wilderness EMT work 538 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:46,319 for about five years before I decided I had had enough. Uh, I moved out to 539 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:51,040 Washington to pursue college and uh, I picked Evergreen. 540 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:56,720 Wasn't for me. It's a little bit too heavy. But, uh, I ended up falling in 541 00:47:54,880 --> 00:48:01,440 love with the town of Shelton. I really like this place. I like the fact that we 542 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:07,119 are the gateway to the Olympics. Spent a lot of time outdoors. 543 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:13,680 And it really bums me out that, you know, we have nothing NLES affiliated, 544 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:17,599 Outwardbound affiliated like Shelton sits on one of the greatest national 545 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:21,359 parks in the country. People should be flying from all over the planet to see 546 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:24,480 it. >> All right. Thank you so much. 547 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:28,040 » Thank you for your time. >> Yeah. Thank you. 548 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:38,319 » Questions. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 549 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:42,240 A lot of money. >> So, so after this next one, can we take 550 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:48,040 a five minute for a bathroom break? Okay, great. Is everyone good with that? 551 00:48:44,319 --> 00:48:48,040 » Okay, great. Okay. 552 00:49:19,359 --> 00:49:25,680 There's the questions for you, but we will also ask you in person. All right. 553 00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:28,640 So, Kenneth Mullet, correct? >> Yes. 554 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:31,280 » All right. Welcome this evening. Are you ready? 555 00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:37,200 » As ready as I can. >> All right. So, question number one is, 556 00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:41,680 do you have any specific local issues that motivated you to apply for the 557 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:49,520 council vacancy? >> Uh, I think uh primarily in kind of a 558 00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:54,640 lived experience uh had a a tenant who had a struggle to pay her rent. um 559 00:49:51,839 --> 00:50:00,880 single income. She had a large family and you know at some personal 560 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:05,040 strain uh you know supported her in what she was doing and recognizing that her 561 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:08,240 community don't necessarily have a lot of that available. There weren't 562 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:16,640 necessarily other options. If she had fallen from where she was, there wasn't 563 00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:20,880 a lot of options to pick her up. Um and aligned with the strategic plan that 564 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:24,800 decides to put out you know managing the city's growth or keeping character and I 565 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:29,200 think the character is leading kindness you know if you have the the ability you 566 00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:33,599 know extend it as you can and then manage growth so people don't fall 567 00:50:31,359 --> 00:50:39,240 through from where they are and they have places they can catch and strateg 568 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,920 » given that homelessness and affordable housing are complex legis legislative 569 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:49,440 matters with divided community perspectives. What approach would you 570 00:50:47,839 --> 00:50:53,599 take to these challenges as a council member? 571 00:50:51,280 --> 00:51:00,319 » Excellent question. Uh I think I know as a council we recently voted on 572 00:50:56,319 --> 00:51:06,480 approaches to uh uh reducing at least the impact of the unhoused. Um I think 573 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:10,400 one is that we follow through with plans we have made. you know, regardless of 574 00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:14,559 how we approach them, uh they were made thoughtfully uh and considerably and and 575 00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:19,520 we need to follow through to find the effect of that. Um I think there's also 576 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:23,599 been recommendations to have uh mitigation sites. Uh I think that one 577 00:51:21,839 --> 00:51:28,160 has a lot of efficacy. I know there's challenges there, but I think mitigation 578 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:35,119 sites where we can colllocate services that can both address and mitigate and 579 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:39,280 and again with humanity uh and respect and also respect for our community, its 580 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:44,640 livability, its walkability and its enjoyability. So, uh, answers are stick 581 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:50,079 through the plans we've already put the time, attention, and effort to to both 582 00:51:47,839 --> 00:51:53,920 come up with and and we just follow through regardless of how we approach 583 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:58,240 that decision. You know, follow through on these choices to find the positive 584 00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:01,200 outcomes. >> All right. 585 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:06,599 » Can you describe a time when you had to balance your personal beliefs with the 586 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,599 broader interest of a community? 587 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:18,800 uh in in here uh balance meaning uh where conflicts with my personal beliefs 588 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:25,040 » um I yeah so what you believe in something but you're that it's better 589 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:32,000 for the community to do it this way but >> I guess I guess a relevant example might 590 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:36,559 be having paid attention to many recent council meetings a lot of citizens very 591 00:52:34,319 --> 00:52:42,079 feel very strongly about flat cameras and I personally have a conflict view. 592 00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:46,559 Uh I know those block cameras are uh a force multiply and in a rural community 593 00:52:44,319 --> 00:52:52,000 with limited resources, it's tough to effectively uh maintain peace and law 594 00:52:49,839 --> 00:52:57,520 with those limited resources and these tools are are force multipliers. 595 00:52:54,640 --> 00:53:02,800 At the same time, uh you know, I've personally been a victim of two debt 596 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:07,520 breaches uh at a large uh credit company and while I was getting a security 597 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:12,480 clearance and you know, the Clance housing agency had every sensitive bit 598 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:16,480 of information you can conceive about me and not in those situations did I have 599 00:53:14,319 --> 00:53:22,559 any control over that breach but I was a victim and felt the effect of it. Um, so 600 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:28,160 you know, I have a personal concern of uh, you know, how that information is 601 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:34,319 housed and and where it is, but where were those concerns satisfied? Um, or if 602 00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:40,559 as a community we decided that safety and what those spot cameras provide uh, 603 00:53:37,359 --> 00:53:45,520 maybe offset or outweigh those. Um, much like uh, you know, the ordinance 604 00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:48,640 regarding to the unhoused, right? whether I believe it or not, you know, 605 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:53,359 if I'm on the council, that's what the decision was extensively the decision of 606 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:58,400 the community in general and any follow through. 607 00:53:55,280 --> 00:54:01,680 » Thank you. >> What policy area do you believe will 608 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:07,280 have the greatest impact on the city's future over the next 3 to 5 years? 609 00:54:05,119 --> 00:54:11,920 » Uh, I think the ones that contribute most to increasing the tax base, which 610 00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:19,200 we desperately need. Um and not just that uh in and in in route to that uh uh 611 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:24,880 providing more uh looking at the list of the employers who employ the most you 612 00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:30,319 know is limited in their ability to grow and and meet the growth that we 613 00:54:27,119 --> 00:54:36,960 anticipate uh uh that we will see in Shelton um can't necessarily match that. 614 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:42,800 So, uh, the the short answer to that is increase one our tax breaks and then our 615 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:47,680 tax base and then increase the diversity of where that comes from. Um, and you 616 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:52,000 know, I I read ahead and that's in the strategic plan. Uh, I think it's a 617 00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:56,880 robust strategic plan. I appreciate it goal of both matching that growth, being 618 00:54:54,880 --> 00:55:03,599 prepared for it, but also keeping character shelter. 619 00:54:59,119 --> 00:55:09,200 Uh, a big reason why I'm here is that uh in one in 2016, June 4th, I rolled down 620 00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:14,480 my my driveway in my new house and there were 26 community members waiting to 621 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:21,359 help me move in. And 3 days later, uh, I left uh a large family uh in a place 622 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:25,040 they were not from and didn't know, but I left him in in hands that I was I was 623 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:28,640 confident and comfortable with. And that's never changed. Shelton's a place 624 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:35,440 I call home the longest in all of my life. Um, and my kids life. Um, and so 625 00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:40,800 that's important to me. Um, and so, so again, to circle back, uh, increase the 626 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:44,960 tax base, uh, both contributes to and and the diversity while keeping the 627 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:49,760 character of the city. I would love to appreciate. 628 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:54,319 How would you prioritize the allocation of city resources while balancing 629 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:59,760 community expectations for services during periods of limited revenue or 630 00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:03,200 budget constraints? That that question comes from something 631 00:56:01,359 --> 00:56:11,000 that is faced by the council all the time. Uh my my best answer there is is 632 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,000 seek to find 633 00:56:11,839 --> 00:56:22,079 as council members you're representative of the citizens of Shelton. Um and if we 634 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:26,400 are engaged enough locally and we find out what what they mean, you know, what 635 00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:32,839 feeds again feeds that growth, what builds that character. Um and uh 636 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:41,040 and then make decisions that might be difficult. Uh 637 00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:46,480 though faced with those difficult decisions, um ensure that we've done the 638 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:50,640 work to to make sure that difficult decision isn't just us making a 639 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:55,480 difficult decision without having researched and gain 640 00:56:55,680 --> 00:57:04,000 informed ourselves of the best path. And once you're faced with that, decide and 641 00:57:00,799 --> 00:57:10,240 and cuts are are hard but necessary. Everybody would love for every resource 642 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:15,520 to be fully um fully funded uh longevity, but that's that's simply not 643 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:21,839 the case. So easy answer to that is integrity, informing myself and and 644 00:57:18,799 --> 00:57:28,640 honestly seeking the the will input uh the best outcomes for 645 00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:33,440 the city in general. All right. Okay. And the next question 646 00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:38,319 is, what does ethical public service mean to you and how would you practice 647 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:44,799 it as a council member? >> Ethical public service uh 648 00:57:41,839 --> 00:57:48,000 when we go when we're alone at night and it's just 649 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:52,960 us in our pillow, you know, we have to sleep with our own conscious. I think 650 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:57,440 that starts there. I I appreciate having you clean conscious where I don't have 651 00:57:54,799 --> 00:58:01,839 to worry about um what I've done how they come back. I think that ethical 652 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:06,880 public service means that you what you do particularly in public service is and 653 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:11,040 should be transparent that you shouldn't be afraid of that that you should learn 654 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:15,760 from that transparency. Uh embrace it. Um 655 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:21,359 uh and how would I practice it? I would continue uh in an intentional life where 656 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:26,240 um I don't want to live with regret. You know, I don't want to have uh anything 657 00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:33,359 that I hold in secret that I won't tell in public. Um and I approach it with 658 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:40,920 thoughtful, honest uh and and and true to myself uh services. 659 00:58:37,839 --> 00:58:40,920 » All right. 660 00:58:41,839 --> 00:58:50,799 And our last question for you this evening is you have approximately one 661 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:54,319 minute to tell us whatever you'd like us to know about you. 662 00:58:53,520 --> 00:59:02,240 » Questions. >> So, so again since the day I moved in 663 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:07,839 and this town in actual hands and effort embrace me openly. I've I've traveled uh 664 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:13,280 fairly extensively professionally and personally and 665 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:17,839 overlapping a time I've been in Shelton. Even though I've been in places that I I 666 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:22,400 had a current and a past love for, there's something always draws me back. 667 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:27,200 There's there's aspects of of this city that I appreciate, I love, and I would 668 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:31,359 love to see grow. Um, I respect everybody up here. Um, it is not an easy 669 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:38,319 job. Uh, it's a lot more guts than glory. And 670 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:41,760 if chosen, I look forward to both building bridges in the community, 671 00:59:40,079 --> 00:59:47,920 finding ways we can increase our collaboration and and meet that 672 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:51,839 strategic plan that robust, you know, many hours in creating strategic plan 673 00:59:50,319 --> 00:59:56,160 because the character of Shelton was delivering the guy. Uh, I fell in love 674 00:59:54,000 --> 01:00:02,160 with the character of Shelton on June 4th, 2016. And as I rolled up and and I 675 00:59:59,839 --> 01:00:06,880 didn't know any one of those people and since every stranger has only been a 676 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:12,000 stranger very shortly, I've only had positive interactions here and I would 677 01:00:09,839 --> 01:00:17,119 love to to extend that. >> All right. Thank you so much. 678 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:21,599 » Let's go get it. >> All right. So, we're going to take a a 679 01:00:19,839 --> 01:00:26,480 five minute we're going to take a five minute bathroom break and then we'll 680 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:31,599 come right back to it. All right. Great. >> Session for our council interview 681 01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:33,520 questions and the next up is Samuel Lewis. Would you rather be Sam or 682 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,720 Samuel? >> Sam. 683 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:40,880 » All right, Samuel. We have the questions for you there and then we are going to 684 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:44,880 ask them verbally to you. Um, let me know when you're ready. 685 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:49,280 » All right, cool. Great. Um, question number one. Do you have a specific local 686 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:52,720 issues that motivated you to apply for the council vacancy? 687 01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:59,200 » Um, technically I've been considering it for 688 01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:05,440 years for various different reasons, but this time around actually the answer 689 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:11,839 would be yes. um mostly uh around the homeless issue with the different uh ups 690 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:16,240 and downs with homeowners, homelessness, businesses and so on and so forth and 691 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:20,880 what to do about that. And and the reason why is because when I was 692 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:26,160 considering um applying for the council member, 693 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:32,960 somebody that I didn't even know called and asked if I actually apply 694 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:39,920 because I have the knowledge of the homeless issue and I've been working on 695 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:44,079 it for years. So just ask me. >> All right. 696 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:47,760 » Right. Given that homelessness and affordable housing are complex 697 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:50,799 legislative matters with divided community perspectives, what approach 698 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:54,119 would you take to these challenges as a council member? 699 01:01:54,799 --> 01:02:02,559 » Actually, that's a good question. Um, and to me, they're 700 01:01:59,839 --> 01:02:07,200 kind of two separate issues. Um, they seem to be one in that you got 701 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:11,920 homelessness out here and then you need housing and affordable homes to put them 702 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:22,599 in. But there's also agencies that are working toward getting the homeless 703 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:22,599 housed in different manners like uh 704 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:32,160 different uh types of renting houses to put multiple people in 705 01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:37,200 them or building smaller community type housing. And so the the people working 706 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:42,720 on the homeless issue have multiple avenues that they can work with and with 707 01:02:40,079 --> 01:02:47,520 doing their thing too. And then affordable housing just needs to happen 708 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:52,319 for not just for us, but I mean that's a national issue. It's just basically got 709 01:02:50,319 --> 01:02:56,480 to at least in Washington state anyway where we got to have more affordable 710 01:02:54,240 --> 01:03:02,079 housing. So we just need to make sure that we have legislation and ordinances 711 01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:08,319 and whatnot that will step up and help us out with making sure that happens. 712 01:03:06,559 --> 01:03:13,880 Can you describe a time when you had to balance your personal beliefs with the 713 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,880 broader interest of the community? 714 01:03:14,079 --> 01:03:20,039 » Actually, that's a tough one. Um, 715 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:32,319 actually I can't come up with an issue on that that I can think of. Um, if I 716 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:38,079 did, it would be probably around the homeless issue that I have my own 717 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:43,440 thoughts about how things should go, but I also know that some of my thoughts 718 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:48,720 just aren't going to work. And so, my thoughts are based on my own beliefs. 719 01:03:46,079 --> 01:03:53,280 But I see that uh there are people out there that just aren't going to measure 720 01:03:50,559 --> 01:03:57,599 up to that. So, that's about as close as I can get to answering this question. 721 01:03:55,599 --> 01:04:03,400 There's just things that just need to be done with the that maybe I might not 722 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,400 agree with 723 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:11,240 my own theology but just necessary. >> Thank you. 724 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:18,160 » What policy area do you believe will be will have the greatest impact in the 725 01:04:16,559 --> 01:04:21,039 city's future over the next three to five years? 726 01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:33,440 Um actually it goes back to the question you basically been asking um getting the 727 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:40,240 homelessness to be noted an eyesore issue um and also not a impact on city 728 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:46,079 resources with the fire department police so on and so forth. If we can 729 01:04:43,359 --> 01:04:52,400 minimize that, there's more money in the budget to go with other things. But 730 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:56,960 also, if we can get the building codes and all that good 731 01:04:54,640 --> 01:05:04,760 stuff in order so that there could be more building and um housing popping up 732 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,760 around 733 01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:15,559 businesses and whatnot. Just get our zoning and all that good 734 01:05:11,039 --> 01:05:15,559 stuff. ironed out a little bit. 735 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:23,920 » How would you prioritize the allocation of city resources while balancing 736 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:29,319 community expectations for services during periods of limited revenue or 737 01:05:25,839 --> 01:05:29,319 budget constraints? 738 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:41,280 Um, in my mind, some of it's 739 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:44,960 a general that uh there are some city services like the 740 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:50,480 police and the fire department. Well, I know some contracted out, but those 741 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:56,480 things just have to be funded and and funded to the point where that they're 742 01:05:52,480 --> 01:06:01,680 effective and not restricted. And then there's city staffing and whatnot that 743 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:04,960 that just needs to happen. I mean, you got to keep the city running. So, there 744 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:10,640 are some things that you just got to pay for. Then there's other things that 745 01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:16,640 might be able to go along the wayside. I mean, can't too many people complain 746 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:21,359 about the library. I don't see where that's very expensive at all. 747 01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:28,559 But there are some things that the city does pay for that, you know, just put on 748 01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:32,240 the back burner for a while. >> All right. 749 01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:35,440 What does ethical public service mean to you and how would you practice it as a 750 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:43,760 council member? >> Ethical um that simply means just 751 01:06:41,039 --> 01:06:50,000 taking into consideration the people that um 752 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:54,480 people in and who you're working for. You're not working for yourself. You're 753 01:06:51,839 --> 01:07:01,520 working for the the community and the people that are affected by your 754 01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:07,599 decision. So, you put your own personal purposes and your own personal desires 755 01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:14,640 aside as you serve those that you've been appointed to to serve. So, 756 01:07:12,319 --> 01:07:22,079 basically just put the people first and your own wants and desires. 757 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:27,119 at all. >> All right. And then our last question 758 01:07:24,559 --> 01:07:31,359 for you this evening is it's not really a question. It's an opportunity for you 759 01:07:29,119 --> 01:07:33,920 to tell us a little bit about yourself. We'll give you about one minute to tell 760 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:37,720 us whatever you want to tell us about you. Um, 761 01:07:37,839 --> 01:07:44,079 on the homelessness issue, that's probably my biggest strength, I would 762 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:48,160 think, is that I've been working with the homeless since pretty much since 763 01:07:45,839 --> 01:07:54,799 I've been in shelter for the last 18 years. I started working with 764 01:07:51,839 --> 01:08:01,359 the shelter down here and I've gotten to know what works, what don't work, and 765 01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:06,160 and some pretty good ideas on how we could move forward. And I realized none 766 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:10,480 of it is easy and there's no single solution and there's really no real 767 01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:16,480 solution but there's things that can help and so that's been my motivation 768 01:08:14,319 --> 01:08:21,839 for years upon years. put a lot of research into not just what would work 769 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:29,520 here, but also looking at what works everywhere else. And so, um, about 770 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:34,719 myself, that that's probably where I put most of my energy and time is working 771 01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:44,159 with the homeless. on several different boards and I I also am the president of 772 01:08:40,799 --> 01:08:48,719 nonprofit runs the shelter the emergency shelter. 773 01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:50,480 Um so >> about a minute Sam if 774 01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:54,560 » that's it >> you can wrap it up 775 01:08:52,719 --> 01:08:58,480 » and so I I would think that that would be my strength and my motivation and 776 01:08:56,719 --> 01:09:03,560 really what I'm all about. >> All right thank you so much we 777 01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:03,560 appreciate it. 778 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:29,080 Will the real Rosa please stand? 779 01:09:41,679 --> 01:09:44,920 Good evening, 780 01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:52,000 Ross Gallagher, I presume. >> Yes. 781 01:09:50,719 --> 01:09:54,000 » Perfect. >> Um, 782 01:09:52,719 --> 01:09:56,880 » that's today. >> Great. Yes, 783 01:09:55,199 --> 01:10:01,280 » the questions that we will be asking are also in front of you, but we will ask 784 01:09:58,480 --> 01:10:05,520 them to you verbally also. So, let me know. Are you ready? Perfect. So, I'm 785 01:10:03,679 --> 01:10:09,920 going to start with question number one. Do you have any specific local issues 786 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:13,239 that motivated you to apply for the council vacancy? 787 01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:24,159 » No, I wanted to work with the board. I've worked with 788 01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:30,480 previous boards and I feel like my background is a good 789 01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:33,920 asset to the city. >> Okay. 790 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:37,679 » Given that homelessness and affordable housing are complex legislative matters 791 01:10:35,679 --> 01:10:43,000 with divided community perspectives, what approach would you take to these 792 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:43,000 challenges as a council member? 793 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:51,520 But I keep changing laws 794 01:10:48,239 --> 01:11:00,840 and all that and I I'd have to study up on it and also 795 01:10:54,880 --> 01:11:00,840 add my influence on making a decision. 796 01:11:02,159 --> 01:11:09,800 » Can you describe a time when you had to balance your personal beliefs with the 797 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:09,800 broader interest of a community? 798 01:11:10,719 --> 01:11:16,040 But I'd like to end Seven Street Speedway, 799 01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,360 but uh 800 01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:33,360 no, my my police is for the future of Shelton. 801 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:40,480 Uh I've lived here 59 years and I've seen a lot of things happen. 802 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:44,400 Even when Simpson pulled it up and They had formed an intergovernment 803 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:49,520 council and Nep and some of the other electives 804 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:54,560 wanted figure you know we got to kind of roll 805 01:11:51,199 --> 01:11:59,199 the sidewalks up. So they had a meeting at the high school 806 01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:06,000 and they decided is this a retirement community 807 01:12:02,480 --> 01:12:10,640 or employment or blue collar or terrorist? 808 01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:14,520 That's 40 41 years ago and we still don't know what we are. 809 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:22,159 What policy area do you believe will have the greatest impact on the city's 810 01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:26,560 future over the next three to five years? 811 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:31,400 » Well, I've been involved in a lot of things. I'm the guy that actually 812 01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:31,400 designed Boner 813 01:12:32,480 --> 01:12:41,120 and but finding a balance with the community 814 01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:46,080 that's very difficult. There's too many factors coming at you 815 01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:52,640 all the time. But I've dealt with budgets. I've dealt 816 01:12:48,480 --> 01:12:56,440 with the six million deficit the county when I was county commissioner. 817 01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:09,440 All right. How would you prioritize the allocation of city resources while 818 01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:13,040 balancing expectations for services during periods of limited revenue or 819 01:13:11,679 --> 01:13:17,520 budget constraints? >> I don't see that. 820 01:13:16,719 --> 01:13:20,840 » Number four. >> Number four. 821 01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:26,360 » Oh, number four. Excuse me. 822 01:13:32,239 --> 01:13:42,239 This budget is set up with property tax and sales tax 823 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:47,040 and you do get some revenue from the feds, 824 01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:51,920 but we have to prioritize what the needs are 825 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:55,840 and a lot of people want law enforcement. 826 01:13:54,080 --> 01:14:00,960 So like when I was county commissioner, I had to lay off 827 01:13:58,480 --> 01:14:09,239 couple three or four deputies. That wasn't too popular, 828 01:14:03,679 --> 01:14:09,239 but we just have to move along. 829 01:14:11,199 --> 01:14:18,880 » All right. And my next question for you is, what 830 01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:22,320 does ethical public service mean to you and how would you practice it as a 831 01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:27,600 council member? >> I do it every day. 832 01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:34,320 I've done it in the past. I've been elected the elected official. 833 01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:40,760 for 15 years, but I still practice ethics. Anything I 834 01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,760 do. 835 01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:50,880 » All right. And our next question is off script. You won't see it. It's not so 836 01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:55,360 much a question as it's an opportunity for you to tell us in about one minute 837 01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:58,360 whatever you want us to know about Ross Gallagher. 838 01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:08,400 You came prepared. >> Like I previously mentioned, I did 839 01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:15,120 elected for 15 years of service. I've lived in this community for 59 years. 840 01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:22,560 I've been married for 47. I resigned. 841 01:15:18,159 --> 01:15:29,600 I was a state senate finalist back in 1996. 842 01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:36,560 I was on make mason transit board change and expanding the board what I do in my 843 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:42,080 service. I was president of the aging area agency on aging. I was a board 844 01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:47,199 member on board which is pollution stuff. I was on the subcommittee of 845 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:52,400 growth of manhood and I've testified a few times in the 846 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:57,239 senate hear. >> All right. Thank you so much for your 847 01:15:54,239 --> 01:15:57,239 time. 848 01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:10,080 » All right. >> So, we're at the point of an executive 849 01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:13,760 session. So, you you' announce that at this point we're scheduled for 15 15 850 01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:17,199 minutes and we'll >> we'll uh enter back into the chambers 851 01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:19,920 after 15 minutes. >> So, I know they're not in here, but I 852 01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:23,840 want to say thank you to all our candidates. We are we're moving on to 853 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:29,199 the executive session to discuss the qualifications of the applicants and uh 854 01:16:27,199 --> 01:16:33,480 hopefully appointment to an elective office pursuant of RCW42.30.1101H. 855 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:45,600 The executive session will last 15 minutes. We will reconvene at 856 01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:49,520 Oh, somebody do some math for me. >> 37. 857 01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:52,800 » All right. 7:37. There will be action to follow. All 858 01:16:51,679 --> 01:16:58,040 right. >> And we can go in the back. Aaron, if 859 01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:58,040 you'll let 860 01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,560 Oh yeah, 861 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:32,679 » I was going to but thank you for just in case because I appreciate that. 862 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,080 Wow. 863 01:18:08,480 --> 01:18:16,400 Are we ready? All right. >> All right. We are back in session. I 864 01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:21,520 just want to say thank you so much for everybody who um applied tonight. That 865 01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:26,800 was that was super exciting to have so many people care about our community um 866 01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:31,920 and then want to get involved. that is um that that shows that our community 867 01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:35,120 has some some members that really care and that's really important to us on 868 01:18:33,440 --> 01:18:39,520 council. So, thank you so much for that. >> And I also appreciate everybody who came 869 01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:44,239 and applied. That is great. Last time I didn't think we had um three people, not 870 01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:48,080 10. So, that was pretty exciting. Thank you everybody for applying for uh for 871 01:18:46,159 --> 01:18:52,320 this. Appreciate the work of whoever we picked. 872 01:18:49,679 --> 01:18:56,400 » Anyone else? All right. So, we are off and running. 873 01:18:54,400 --> 01:19:01,360 Um, at this point, council members, the floor is open for nominations. No second 874 01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:05,520 will be needed. All right. Nominations. 875 01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:08,400 » I nominate Jason Sap. >> All right. 876 01:19:06,239 --> 01:19:13,040 » I nominate Kenneth Mobley. >> All right. 877 01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:20,719 » I nominate Walter Scott Dil. >> All right. I nominate Sam Lumis. 878 01:19:18,239 --> 01:19:27,040 » And I move to close nominations. >> All right. 879 01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:30,560 Let's do that. Okay. So, can we get >> You need a second to close. 880 01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:36,480 » All right. Can we get that second? >> All right. Second. We have a motion and 881 01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:40,239 a second to close nominations. Um, so we have four nominations. Is that 882 01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,000 correct, Mary? >> Yes. 883 01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:46,480 » All right. The first candidate who receives it will be three votes tonight 884 01:19:44,719 --> 01:19:50,560 will be appointed. If no single candidate receives three votes in the 885 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:57,199 first round, the process will be repeated until a candidate receives the 886 01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:58,320 required number of votes. City clerk Ricker 887 01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:02,800 » Ricker >> Ricker will begin the roll call vote. 888 01:20:01,199 --> 01:20:07,440 Sorry, I usually say your first name. >> Would you like me to do this up there? 889 01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:10,800 Is that easier than in the corner? >> Wherever you're most comfortable. 890 01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:15,360 » Okay, so do the roll call vote. Council member 891 01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:19,920 Blush. Oh. Um, Jason Zap, 892 01:20:18,480 --> 01:20:24,239 » Council Member Anisco, >> Kenneth Moley, 893 01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:28,320 » Mayor Sherman, >> uh, Sam Lumen, 894 01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:32,320 » Council Member Gilmore, >> Kenneth Moley, 895 01:20:30,719 --> 01:20:37,280 » Council Member Gutierrez, >> Kenneth Moley. 896 01:20:34,159 --> 01:20:43,840 » All right. Uh, it looks like we have three votes for Kenneth Moy. So, 897 01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:49,320 congratulations, Kenneth Moley. we will be on our city council. Thank you so 898 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:49,320 much. 899 01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:56,320 All right. Once again, I want to say thank you to 900 01:20:53,600 --> 01:21:00,560 everyone who participated, who cared enough, and for showing up tonight cuz 901 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:06,320 honestly, not everybody did. So, thank you so much. All right, we are going to 902 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:10,920 uh adjourn this meeting at was that 7:41 p.m. 903 01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,920 Awesome.