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All right. Good morning everyone. This
is our regular staff meeting of Tuesday,

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September the 8th. Call the meeting to
order. Um under announcements.

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So on August 18th, 2026, there was a
primary ballot measure asking shall the

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Sheridan County Senior Citizen Service
District be established.

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And per Wyoming statute 18-15-103,
the Sharon Mort County Commissioners

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need to enter that fact that the
election vote was in favor of

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establishing the district. Please let
the minutes reflect this statement.

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Moving on to warrant review and
approval. Um Ashley, anything of note

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this morning?
>> No matter.

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» Thank you.
Ask if there are any questions on page

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» Okay. I would look for a motion if there
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» Yes. I move to approve the warrants as
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» Second.
>> Have a motion and a second. Any

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discussion?
All those in favor, please signify by

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saying I.
>> Those opposed? Motion carries. Move into

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staff and elect reports. Good morning.

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» Madam chair, members of the board.
So, uh, your planning commission met,

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uh, last Tuesday, September 3rd. They
had three items. Uh,

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4J ranch reszone
80acre proposal on the upper road,

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Paradise Park, North Park. Uh they voted
to recommend the dial with that item.

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Pegasus utility easement vacation. It
was recommended for approval

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was simply a utility out out. We have
lots of those. So people own a couple

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lots. They want to build across lots. So
with input from the utilities and the

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powder group that was recommended
uh 3T Enterprises uh access easement u

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there's a 60 foot wide access easement
that goes into their storage units up up

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the hill here and uh they're meeting to
install some gates for security purposes

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and that was also recommended for
approval. Um, city staff was had

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different comments on that one. Um, the
uh utilities folks, water, etc. They

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they were okay with it.
Fire dis I'm sorry, fire marshall, he

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was sort of okay with it and the
planning office was not okay with it. So

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» you have variety of comments
>> the planning commission saw bit to go in

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I don't have the dates that you'll see
them but they'll be coming. Uh the

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conley's uh have resubmitted an
application for a preliminary plat on

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off of high road that I consider
earlier. They've uh dropped a lot.

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They're down to six lots and uh no
variance request for this one. So, we'll

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see how that goes. So, it'll be a while
before you see that one, probably

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December likely. So, um
the uh joint planning area update uh

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project uh kickoff meeting was last
Friday. uh

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uh reviewed the uh project scope,
schedule, budget, etc. Um clarified uh

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consult the client roles and uh talk a
bit about communication engagements

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strategies.
We may be looking at a advisory

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committee where folks would appoint
folks to to be on that from from the

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citizens
as well as the city would likely appoint

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people to that as well. So haven't
settled on that strategy yet, but I

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wouldn't be surprised we do that. So
anyway, about it.

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» Any questions for Mark?
>> Thank you.

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Coco

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morning county engineer just a couple
FYI things. Uh we have a road and bridge

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mechanic or mechanic turned into
resation. So we're looking for

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» Yeah, Ryan was good. Yeah, he was a good
but took employment other places.

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Uh we got our nationwide permits from
the core 13 and 27 for the clean burn

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project. So it's out advertised for
we're advertising I think first

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advertising the paper today for about
three beats. I think we bids October

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10th or there
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uh road bridge is out doing some more
graveling. went to spot growling last

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week and then they're I think they're
graveling on road on the east end of

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road this week. So
that's that's about all

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» questions for Madam Chair.
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» Um Ken, I know we talked about this uh
not too long ago, but at some point in

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the near future, could we kind of get an
update on uh the Willow Avenue area?

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» Sure. Yeah, we're still kind of
wrestling with that narrow rightway on

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that north end, but we should have
something maybe the recommendation

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maybe. What do you guys want to do go
going forward? But that two blocks, it's

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the counties.

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» People are getting through there using
it quite a bit. Pretty a lot of people

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using it,
>> but we haven't fixed any of the drainage

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issues.
>> Yeah. Right. Right. Okay.

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» Any other questions?
>> Madam Chair, I just I uh went through

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Key Tone Road last night um and and just
like to let the road bridge know that

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both ends where they did the work on
that. It's way better than it was.

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Obviously, we're not going to go all the
way through there, but but the the both

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ends where they rebuilt the road and
regraveled it, big improvement. probably

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people will get quite a bit farther
before they get stuck.

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» But uh
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» Yeah. Yeah. But it is it is a nice
improvement on both ends.

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» I'll pass it along.
>> Thank you.

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» Thank you, Ken. Um Ashley, anything else
for us this time?

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Diana? Nope. For later. Okay. Jesse.
>> No, Madam Chair.

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» Robert,

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» morning. Robert Gail, Shering County
Airport Manager. Um, just wanted to

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provide the board uh with an update on
conversations with Sky West in regard to

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capacity. We've uh it's definitely been
a a conversation for quite a while and

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dove back into it here recently. And I I
guess just to provide a recap um in

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March we took a look at projections um
where we were sitting and with the uh

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theou we hold with the state we did have
that amendment updating those numbers um

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we were able to lower the contract m
maximum substantially was just how we

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were performing and um essentially
that's that's how we budgeted for air

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service based off that contract maximum
and I think we did have a little bit

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extra in there this here just with that
avenue hadn't been signed by the

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attorney general's office yet and we
have rising fuel costs. So, um that's

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how we had things budgeted. Um this
summer we've performed great. Um and

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here recently revisited that with Sky
West and um took another look at their

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projections and um they've they've
basically got that contract maximum

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close to a third of what we even had in
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um adding an aircraft.
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let them know that uh appetite for
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wouldn't be there and I think the state
agreed on their end as well too. Um but

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with where those contract maximums are
are at they feel like they can add

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capacity and with how we're performing.
Um, also with that, uh, with

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efficiencies gained and the economies of
scale, bringing more aircraft into here,

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um, we also discussed dropping the
blockout rate back, fixed cost by about

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1.75%.
So they bring more aircraft in here,

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it's going to be a little cheaper per
flight hour. Um, so what I'd like to

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recommend is moving forward to um an
additional four flights a week starting

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in January
and then um towards that peak season uh

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beginning of that peak season in May,
June, bumping up to three flights daily.

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Um Sky West fully thinks we can support
it and it's not going to affect what's

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budgeted. Um anything past that contract
maximum Sky West picks up. Um,

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so I don't know if there needs to be
formal action taken or if that's just an

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administrative decision and you guys are
good with me just reaching out to Sky

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West, but that's that's what I would
recommend doing. Um, it's there's

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there's not any risk there.
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the change in the budget, it would be
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» an extra flight's fantastic.
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» Great news. I think we've certainly been
patient on building this up and we're at

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a point where yeah, we can definitely
add that in and uh it's not going to

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change what we've what we've had
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» Okay, any questions for Robert?
>> Great.

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» And then uh another item that I wanted
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proposals um or or discuss uh looking at
proposals that kind of go outside of

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what we have defined as far as leasing.
Um, right now we have our business park,

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the executive hangers area. Um, we've
got those incorporated, the leasing

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rules, and occasionally I I get a
proposal tossed out or an idea tossed

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out on something that kind of goes
outside of that. Um, I had one come up

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here recently and now um, looks like the
party really wants to move forward with

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doing something that's kind of outside
of those leasing rules and essentially

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be north of where the executive hanger
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long term or in our master plan and that
would be like an executive hanger phase

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2 area. Um got that identified but
there's no record of survey. There's no

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infrastructure there, electric, water,
sewer, gas, roadway. Um but I got

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somebody that wants to build there and
they're willing to take that

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infrastructure to that area um
just with uh kind of negotiating on um

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maybe I would say more favorable leasing
terms. um doing a 40-year agreement and

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um calling it kind of undeveloped land
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So doing a little bit of a lower ground
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certainly works out well for both
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infrastructure there is expensive for
the airport. So if they're willing to do

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it on their own dime that's great. Um,
I think our leasing rules have really

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covered a good transparent way to to uh
for everybody to view these proposals.

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So, I I guess we don't really have
something like that to define if we want

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to move forward other than I was
thinking maybe we asked this party to

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give us a formal proposal and we still
could um publish it online, publish it

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in the in the paper and hold a public
hearing so anybody could comment on it

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if they wanted to. Um I don't know if
there's any thoughts on feelings on that

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but um I could certainly see moving
forward with this project.

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» So Madam Chair, so how far north is it?
Just across the taxi way there up to

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Airport Road or is it further west and
north on that more undeveloped stuff?

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» So we we kind of have that developed
area that's further south. They've got

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the Sheridan Pilots hanger. Then we've
got some county um box hangers. They

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just want to go north of that. So
they're okay.

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» Yeah. So they want to extend.
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Airways building is where
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still um
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to start developing that area is quite
costly and they're willing to do it. So

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» Okay. Yeah. I'd say we to see a formal
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And then Robert, um,
>> it's been a busy summer, but I was

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curious, has the committee met? We had
that committee that was looking at the

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agreements,
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we, you know, with
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and all the projects came off. I just
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» Well, the FAA here and Yeah. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Okay. So, it's certainly on the

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radar, but it's something we had to jump
back to yet.

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» Okay.
>> And then just wanted to let you guys

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know I'll be attending the airline
rendevous in Jacksonville um leaving

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town uh tomorrow midday. They'll be out
of the office the rest of the week. And

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then I also know you guys received a
letter on offering additional services

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up the airport. That's something I just
haven't been able to digest yet or

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unravel yet to hear. So, believe you
guys got a letter.

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That's all I got.
>> Okay. Any questions for Robert?

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» Appreciate the updates. Safe travels.
>> Amy,

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good morning. Good morning.

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» Hey, good chair. Morning commissioners.
Uh Amy Long, library director.

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uh have a couple of announcements for
you this morning. You do have a handout

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that I also emailed out. I did catch one
correction that I will correct and email

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this morning. Uh the Bulmer Branch
Library is going to be closing for a

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short period of time in order to
uh collapse the timeline for the

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renovations. Um, this is driven by the
deadlines for the reimbursement grant

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that we're receiving through the state
library. Uh, the grant is the Wyoming

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library multi-purpose community facility
program subgrant. Uh, which is why you

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have it in your handout. Um, just to
give you the dates, they're up at the

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top of your handout. So, the key dates
for the closure are September 19th

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through 26th. It will be a full closure
where we pause all services. And this is

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because we have to pull all of the books
off of the shelves in the fiction

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section, move the shelving into the
children's area, and then put all of the

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books back up because we would like to
keep as much of the collection available

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and circulating as possible, and they
have to be in order. Um, and then we

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will reopen for limited services. um
opening the youth services desk as our

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main circulation point. Um those
services will be very similar to what we

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had available during COVID which was
holds pickup ill account services

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checking in and out um as much as we
can. We'll be fetching books both from

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the inner circle which is uh the
non-fiction collection that's still

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available um that staff have been
fetching so far as well as the fiction

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and children's collections. Um and then
uh November 9th through 13th once the

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renovations are completed in the adult
colle in the adult section, we will uh

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put up all the shelves, get all of the
collection back on the shelves. Um so

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we'll be fully closed during that
portion so we can concentrate on that

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and then we'll reopen to full services
with a fully renovated Fulmer Library on

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November 16th. Um then after that uh I
don't have the exact date uh to start

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yet because that depends on the
subcontractor schedule for starting the

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slab work in the Wyoming room but then
the Wyoming room renovation would begin.

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Um the Wyoming room portion of the
renovation is separate from the grant

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and so it can start after the grant
deadlines are finished. Um, and that was

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uh the one correction I saw under grant
information details. Bullet three, the

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award for 1.75 million was secured for
all four branches. Um, and their library

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renovations. It was library specific,
which is why the Wyoming room was not

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included. That's an archive. It has a
different kind of purpose than a

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library, so it didn't qualify for the
grant. Um

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uh additionally
uh you might be wondering what about the

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elevator? We have been in contact with
the technician uh that serves the whole

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region,
the only technician that serves the

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whole region of our particular elevator.
Um and we are trying to get them

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scheduled during this closure period so
that hopefully we reopen with a

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functioning elevator as well. Um,
additionally, this document is hopefully

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also going to serve for anyone who's
answering the phones of the county in

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case you guys get questions. It provides
phone numbers for specific um questions

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around accounts or events and people
they can contact via email or phone

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number so that they can get right to the
person that they might need to answer

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their question. as well as some
frequently asked questions um pointing

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them to a a very quick script that they
could answer. Um and so that is on the

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closure. Additionally, Story is the only
small branch that had an issue with the

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renovation. We are at we have fixed the
issue with the lighting and the ceiling.

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Um and we are hoping to do the
substantial completion walk this week.

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It hasn't been scheduled yet, but it
should happen this week with Arette at

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Odell. Um, and so they should be knocked
on Laminate. Um, it should be open next

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week. Um, they do have their furniture.
It has been in top offic's um, warehouse

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and so that should also arrive as soon
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that story would be open and
operational. They have been operating

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out of their other spaces. Um and the
other two smaller branches have had

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their furniture and have been operating.
Um and they would not be impacted by

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this closure. Also, homebound delivery
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Um and so that is the Fulmer closure.
The other announcement I just wanted to

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make is that our part-time employee um
out in Claremont, we were just about to

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open for our additional hours, but um
that person did need to resign due to an

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unforeseen um issue that that is
perfectly reasonable um reason for that.

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Um so I will have to repost that
position, but they did provide really

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great feedback on the hours and schedule
and so I think we'll get a lot more

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tapers based on their feedback. So, we
will be posting that in their newsletter

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and in the branch and during this
closure will be a great opportunity to

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get that position filled and um try to
extend those hours again hopefully in

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October. Um also uh my administrative
assistant accepted a position

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internally. So, I will be hiring a
part-time administrative assistant in

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Fulmer also during this time. So, uh
just to let you know those were also

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happening. Any questions?
Yeah. Any questions for Amy? Appreciate

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the updates. Yeah.
No, no, no questions. Thank you.

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» Thanks for being here this morning.
Absolutely. Thank you.

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» Good luck with all the construction.

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» All right. Uh Eric,

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Eric, maintenance. Uh just giving you
guys a heads up. We did have a crew

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member here but in his for his
retirement at the end of the month. So

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we are advertising for that replacement.
>> Any questions for

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» thanks for the hit that appreciate it.

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Kelly.

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» Good morning, Madam Chair,
Commissioners. Levi Demia, Shar Sheriff.

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Um, just to give you a heads up as well,
we had a a control operator who had to

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leave uh move back to uh out of state
for family reasons. So, we'll be

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advertising for a position for that for
a control room operator. And we had a

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detention deputy after 15 years of being
with the sheriff's office. She's been

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working very hard to get her counseling
license and and was able to do that,

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finish all of that about a year ago, has
been kind of doing some part-time work

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and she's to the point where she's going
to go do that full-time and so she has

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uh moved on to do that. So, we'll be um
advertising for a position for that as

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well. So,
>> congrats to her. Yeah, that's great. Any

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questions for Sheriff?
Okay, thanks Lee. I appreciate it. Quit

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chamber.
>> Madam chair, commissioners. Um, just a

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heads up. I'll be up on Thursday and
then next week the auditors will be in

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building on

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Jennings. Um, I've got some family
coming in this week, so I'll be in and

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out.
>> Mr. Rzy,

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» it's just going to be a busy day today.
Three meetings, so I'll be out. Yeah,

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» I'll be out Thursday. Have to take my
wife to Billings for a medical

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appointment.
>> Okay.

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» Other than that, I'm around.
>> Mr. Right.

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» Nothing at the moment.
>> I don't have anything either. We will

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move on to item five. Consider a word of
a bid for the design build addition and

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renovation of the public defending
building. Call on Cameron Deministrative

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director.
>> Commissioners. Um we opened up the bit

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for this um building. It's the building
right in the north of the county

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attorney's office. Um
it was designed uh to go out for the

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public defender office space. Um we
received five bids. Um just for the

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record, I'm just going to read off those
uh totals. And it's this is in the order

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that they were received, not in the
order of any other reason. FDL

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Consulting LLC with Odell Construction
was 59,550.

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Roadhouse um construction with Ironsburg
architecture was 112,400.

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Dick Anderson construction with the
Evolve Architecture was 110,363.

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venue in construction with the rent
design group was $110,919.50

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and in your app construction with QC10
architects was 49,100.

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Um there were some other add-ons in a
few of these bids for uh geotechnical

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reports and asbestous and topography. I
put that up and um put them on as as

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needed. But at this point the the goal
was we had to have a design. Um we have

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to go ahead and our goal was to add
space um about 800 so square feet to the

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south side of that building. And a lot
of the cost of this is just the design

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construction. This does not include any
of the actual removal. So not single

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mail going into it. Um if we go ahead
and expand out uh just be prepared that

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uh the city and with code we will have
to update the older section of the

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building. So at this point I'm not
necessarily going to I didn't submit a

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memo and saying which one um I would go
with but there is quite a discrepancy in

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the bids. Uh they were all consistent in
the sense they covered every aspect that

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I requested. Um, so this isn't about
quality of submissions. This is really

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just passing on to you. You've had a
chance to look at the documents. So I'll

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just stand for any questions at this
time.

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» Any questions for Cameron? Um, Cameron,
I know we talked about kind of that

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increased cost of construction because
we need to get it up to code and there

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had been recommendations from some of
the contractors it sounds like about

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just dozing it, starting from scratch.
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I I guess I would just open it up for
that conversation. Um, I feel like Well,

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I'll just open that up.
>> I don't care. Yes, there there was a

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question multiple questions raised
during the pre-bid meeting.

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» Um if you looked at the existing
building as it is right now, it was

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built in seconds and so there is some
slope to it. If you're trying to add on,

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let's say
ft of brand new construction, you have

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to bring the other side up to code as
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There was a lot of um I guess concern
and for each of them they they said yeah

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the easiest way is to tear down the
other and just put up what you want. So

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right now it's about 1,100 square feet.
If you add 800 that's 1,900. So

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remodeling the old couldn't cost as much
as tearing down and starting from

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scratch on a blank slate. So that was
comments that were received by bidtors.

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» So
I'm just having

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perfect world. Would we ever want more
than 1,900 square feet? Would

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would this change
or would that be a bare minimum? Would

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we outgrow that in five years?
>> Madam Chair, um if you look at just the

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attorney's office next door, there's two
floors. So if you look at other

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buildings, there's multiple floors. If
you are going to say in 5 years, oh, we

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we want to increase this, then you just
wasted the money to build it at,900 ft.

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If your goal is to do a two level right
from the start, then you probably should

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do a two floors right from the start,
>> right?

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But for right now in the public
defenders space, um, with the number of

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staff they have,
they could fit. Um, but I'm not saying

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what society is doing, but the sheer
volume of increases at case loads.

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» Yeah, I could see the state adding more
staff in the future.

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comments, questions,
>> Madam Chair.

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» Yeah, Commissioner.
>> At the risk of being blunt, I'm not for

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any of these.

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» Okay. And why? Can you follow up with
that, Commissioner Ray, for me?

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» I can follow.
>> What's your thinking? I'm I'm I'm

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thinking that we uh
know Eric under the bus, but I'm

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thinking internally we put fresh coats
of paint, we clean, we maybe put new

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flooring down, we spruce it up, and we
try to work internally to make it a

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usable space. Not necessarily for the
public defender, but we move people

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around to get people where they have
enough room, whether it is another

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department that moves over there and
then public defenders move into their

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space.
>> But the idea of spending

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north of half a million dollars to
I mean all these numbers are just for

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design, right?
The actual construction,

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I'm guessing, is going to be half a
million at least. So, I'm not in favor

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of doing any of
any of that. I think we need to work

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with what we have just to be
conservative with our funds.

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» Okay.
>> Moments. Yeah.

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» Um, you know, it appears to me
statutoily we're required to provide an

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office for the public defenders.
certainly doesn't say that it has to be

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1,900 square feet. That that facility
over there. Um I went over with Cameron

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and Commissioner Jennings this morning
and we looked at it certainly wasn't

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nearly as bad as I was led to believe
that it was going to be. Um and I think

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it's it's fairly habitable with like
Commissioner Wright said, certainly it

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needs a good cleaning. It needs some
paint. Um probably

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different flooring put in the put in it.
Um maybe a petition put in between the

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front entryway and the office there. It
would be a lot more minor than than the

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amount of money that we'd be spending.
We simply I just I agree with

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Commissioner Wright in the fact that we
didn't we didn't acquire that property

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so that we could tear it down and spend
a half a million dollars there. So, I'm

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in in agreement with Commissioner Wright
and and looking and that we still we

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continue to look at all the options of
what we have for space in the courthouse

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as opposed to space over there for like
Commissioner Wright said maybe moving

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some people around or something of that
nature.

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Madam Chair,
>> um, you know, I actually, uh, just like

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Commissioner Siddle said, I was
picturing this building my mind because

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I've only ever seen pictures. Uh,
walking in it, it really is not in as

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bad a shape as I thought it was. And so
I I'm more for along the lines of

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agreeing as to let's let's do a little
bit of sprucing up. Let's see what we

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can do with it. And then maybe down the
road, you know, a year or so or five

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years, it's if it's not working, then we
discuss something along that lines and

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maybe we start preparing for that and
>> in 5 years or whatever, we we look

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again.
>> I

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I personally would uh you know, it's a
great location next to the attorney's

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office, close to the courthouse. Um,
I'd like to think that we're designing

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something that
fits us in 2550 years. Um, and I I don't

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know if we have a vision of that at this
point. Um,

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yeah.

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Any other comments,
Cameron? Any other comments?

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I guess my only comment manager my
comment is um

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» these vendors put a lot of work into
this. We asked them to submit what

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was requested. They did everything
correctly. Um but yeah, the costs are

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going to be extensive with this. They're
not trying to sugarcoat it.

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But if I had to recommend any of the
five could have done it. So, I just want

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to be on the record that each of these
entities did what I asked them to do.

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» So,
I'm I'm sensing we're not making a

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motion for any of these today.

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» That's my story.

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» Quick.
Okay. Um, I guess do we we want a motion

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to
or or I guess it's a head nod to Cameron

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to look at costs for paint carpet.

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» Madam Chair,
>> just to be clear, you want me to contact

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all five and say we are not proceeding
with this project?

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» Would we need a motion to that effect?
wouldn't have to. You're just giving

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direction to your employee.
You could if you'd like. You know,

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you're not prohibited from
>> that is the sense I'm getting, Cry,

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since no one's going to speak up.
>> Thank you. And that's for um the rest

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get you some estimates.
>> All right. Our next item is executive

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session uh pursuant to state statute
16-4-45A3

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matters concerning litigation. And I'd
look for a motion.

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» Madam Chair,
>> yes.

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» Move to convene executive session
pursuant to W statute 16-4-40583

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concerning the litigation.
>> Second. We have a motion and a second.

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All those in favor signify by saying I.
I

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» opposed. Motion carries. We'll move into
executive session. Thanks, folks.

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I'll let her get the door first. Sorry.
>> Good.

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» All right.
>> Madam Chair, I move to reconvene into

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regular session.
>> Second.

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» Motion in a second. All those in favor
signify by saying I. I those opposed

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motion carries with that we are ajourned
at 9:42