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Good

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evening, everyone and welcome to the September 14th, 2026 study session. That's 530 civil commands. We have a total of 5 items, but for 790, but for that, it still has an announcement.

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Mr. Mayan Council, I'd like, it's my pleasure to introduce to you Kailins Replacement

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and Alyssa Johnson, she came through a pretty rigid hiring process and she came out

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on top and I'd just like to have her just introduce herself real quick because he's in the

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folks you have a decent boy.

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Hi, nice to meet you everybody, I'm very honoured to be here, I have big shoes to fill, Kailin

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I'm just trying to teach me the way a song that she can for the next week, and I hope to learn a lot from you, and if you need anything, if you treat yourself well.

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It's a pleasure. Thank you for having me.

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Thank you. We're glad to have you, so, and you don't have to stay if you don't want to.

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Okay.

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So we do have a total of seven items on the agenda for tonight.

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So we'll just get Roman because it's seven o'clock.

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I think they're going to start the debate down at theio.

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So item six, okay, it's six, so we've really got a hustle.

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So discussion, our first one is Bidoward, two three-month motor count, three-month motor

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for three Dodge Durango pursuit, all-wheel drive vehicles in the amount of 125,000-500

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and for those of you who have been with us to tell us about that

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is our fleet and administrative coordinator

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has a clean ski welcome Heather.

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Thank you, Mary and Council.

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Like the mayor said, so this is the purchase

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for three new Dodge Durango's for the FY27 budget.

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Those were approved in the budget earlier this year.

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A request of it was advertised August 15th and 24th

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and the bid opening to place September 2nd.

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We received three bids with three-month motor

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company out of land are coming in as the lowest qualified bid for $125,544 and $240

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to purchase these vehicles and they're outfitting.

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Before issuing their

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press for bids, I did send the specifications to achieve a police or

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him to review and confirm and the following vehicles are being replaced and will be

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surplus. We have a 2015 Ford Taurus over 81,000 miles. It has the front and

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out, and it's not used for patrol anymore. We have a 2018 Dodge Charger over 98,000 miles

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and has current issues with the radar and a check engine light, and also a 2019 Dodge Charger

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that's almost at 100,000 miles.

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Without staff approves, or recommends that the Marin City Council

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approves the purchase of the 3, 20, 27 Dodge Durangos from Freedom Motor Company out of Lander for

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$25,544 and authorized the Fleet Coordinator to act on behalf of the Council and Mayor on all matters related to the purement process.

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And the vehicles will only take two to three months from the manufacture, and then they'll be delivered to Rapid City to on-seen dynamics, which is the company realizing this year without hitting.

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So they'll output with all the accessories, camera system, radio radar, all that at approximately

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20,000 per vehicle and GPET funds are being used for this out of the fleet account for the

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PD.

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Any questions?

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Any questions for Heather on this one?

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So just to add a curiosity, Chief, did we get our other ones that were supposed to be outfitted

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that were taking forever?

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There, so the ones that were approved of previous systems, we got them about a month ago.

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About a month ago.

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Quite as a lay in our.

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Okay.

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Just that was an idea.

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I'll keep theorizing question.

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Yeah.

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Thank you.

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Anything else for that on this one?

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Okay.

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We'll move on.

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Discussion of a bid award to men,

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motors for 1.5 times trucks,

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1.24 times truck,

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And one, one, two, one time truck in the amount of 176,500 and $12, and again, I had a

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complaint season with this.

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So, carry on, Heather.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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So, back on on these trucks, they were approved on June 15.

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When the FY27 budget was approved, a half time for the fire department, a three-quarter

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time to the landfill and one time for the street department.

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Request for Bids was put out August 15th and 24th and all three trucks were packaged together in a video in the bid request and then September 2nd

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Was the bid opening we received three Bids and evaluated those against the specifications we put out

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So these are the three Bids we received from Laramie

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Peak Motors free Montmutter Company and Sheridan

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Laramie came in at the lowest for all three as a package

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176,512

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With Reeve Motcoming and a little more than that, and then Sheridan Motors only did the

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halftime, which is more than the other two halftimes anyway, but they did the whole package,

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I'm not sure why.

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Before we're now further requests for Biz, I met with each department individually when

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over all the specifications and options they needed for the trucks.

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The Fire Department's replacing a 2007 Ford Expedition, it's over 19 years old, over 97,000

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miles, and it lacks some modern safety features.

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They need firm emergency response.

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Landfill's replacing a 21 year old Chevy.

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The odometer is an operative and has been for a while,

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but the last I could find any mileage was 2020

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and at that point it was like 51,000.

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So it's definitely got a lot more than that by now.

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And it currently has an exhaust leak.

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And the streets department is replacing an over 18 year old

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Chevy Silverado 50,000 miles.

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And it's entire frame is rested out,

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because it's used in the winter time with the mini-standard.

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So the funding you can see the fire department,

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the $50,000 originally budgeted,

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is for G-pets sitting in the sea budget for the fire.

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The truck did come in at $56,053,

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but this account does have the funds to cover the overage.

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Landfill, they're fleet account, they budgeted 68,

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and the truck came in well under at $56,075,

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and the street fleet, they budgeted 80,

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and there's also came under at 63,584.

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Without staff recommends that the Mayor and City Council approve the purchase of the three

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trucks from Lairmy Peak Motors out of Wheatland for a total of 176,512 dollars,

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and authorized the Clean Coordinator to act on behalf of the Council and Mayor on all matters

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related to the...

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The estimated delivery timeline for all three trucks is three to four months, at which time they will be

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upfitted with the option set for the specifications in the bid package that each had a couple different options.

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So, what's that? Do you have any questions for Heather this morning?

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All right, well, thanks for all your work, Heather.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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a bit of work to wagon it ranch services for the 2026 crushing project in the amount of $64,123,

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and with this is our city engineer Thomas Marno from Thomas.

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Thank you, Mayor and Council. This is our by annual crushing projects.

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So we do this roughly every two years.

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We are taking excess material from both city projects as well as public and private projects

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where they're bringing their old concrete,

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to an asphalt and a material. It gets stored at the landfill when that pile gets substantially

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large enough where it's starting to take up space. We crush it down and we'll use the

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product project. So it's about 5,500 cubic yards of concrete and asphalt. We want to crush it

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down to about a one-inch size aggregate. That roughly comes out to 6,600 tons.

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When we do the

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project, what that process looks like, we'll contract, we'll go in, make sure that the

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rebar is sorted and recycled during this process. All the work is on site of the Sheridan

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landfill, probably right next to the concrete pile. It was advertised in August with the pre-bid

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also in August.

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As I said earlier, this comes from city projects as well as the public, people

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bring in their access material when they're doing their driveways or like our south downtown East

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downtown projects. That's where all of that material gets hold and soared. Then it's in the landfill and

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taking up land fill space. When we crush it down, it gets reused by the city for soft service pathways,

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they use it for their landfill, road repairs, and then a utility maintenance likes to do it for their

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vet use it for backfilling and pipe bedding, with their projects. A little bit of information on the cost

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to buy it versus what we're doing here, which is producing it in-house. The market price,

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I called around to talk to a couple of vendors to get a similar type of material roughly

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comes out to $27.75 per ton.

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So if we use the tonage from our earlier $6600 ton, you're looking at about $183,000 to produce

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to purchase that level of material.

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With what we just have at the landfill, again, a no cost to us.

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It's just what's getting stored there.

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It costs, it'll cost us $64,000, which comes out to $9.70 per ton.

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So we're looking at a third of the cost by just using the material.

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That's again, just taking them space at the landfill,

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but then we are reusing it for very city needs.

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A couple's pictures of all that material.

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Again, it's a sizeable pile, right?

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It's shared in landfill.

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The scenario there, again, that red square there,

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is about how much space and where that concrete

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and asphalt disposal area is right now.

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So it takes a quite a bit of space at the landfill.

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So not only are we getting a third of a cost

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to crash it instead of purchasing it,

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we're also freeing up landfill space, which is very valuable.

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Our seal bids were opened on September 2nd,

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and Wagner Ranch Services was the lowest qualified bid

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at $64,125, we're going to recommend next week that the mayor and council award the project

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to Wagner for that number, authorizing our Public Works Director to act on behalf of you,

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and this project is funded with GFET funds. So again, by annually every two years, when

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we know that that pile is ready, you utilize that extra penny to fund a project like this

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and then that material is used to benefit the city.

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So it's win-win.

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Those are the key points.

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There are any questions on this one?

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Yes, Councillor, just a couple of questions.

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So is the question going to happen in place,

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or does it have to be transported somewhere else to be crushed?

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Mayer, through you, Councillor Pads,

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a get-all happen at in place right at the shared in landfill.

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Is that where the material will also be stored?

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Mayer, through you.

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Correct.

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It'll be used there in a stockpile

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and then use for various projects and needs

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and that pile will decrease once it is a useful material.

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Is there currently a crusher at that location?

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Or will Wagner need to supply it?

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Wagner will be mobilizing that into the site.

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Yeah, it seems like a really good deal for the city.

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And I'm glad to be able to do business with the local provider too.

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So thank you.

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Any other questions regarding this?

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Mr. Mayor?

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If I can just to, May or night took a tour of Molonex the other day last week, and they were talking about the fact that our rebar, our concrete has a lot of rebar and it so it requires, you know, magnet stuff to take it out and it was, it's not really cost-effective for them. So this, that just adds to the fact that this is a really good deal that we're getting because the rebar is really hard to normally take out of a crushing and that's why Molonex wouldn't touch it.

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Anything else?

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We move on.

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Item number four.

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Discussion of Resolution 19-26, a proving diagonal parking on the west side of North

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Conor Street.

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And again, with us, our city engineer Thomas Mono, welcome back to Thomas.

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Thank you again, Mayor and Council.

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Another diagonal parking request, the site, is at 260 East-Brendage Lane.

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The street they want to do, the diagonal parking is North Conner Streets.

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It's a 39-foot wide road, a 70-foot right away, so there's a lot of right away and

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space to do that work.

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The developer, property owner, landmark 2020, 228 LLC, is proposing to do the improvements

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along the west side of North Conner Streets adjacent to their property, and they want it to

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be again for the benefit of residents.

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There is a six unit apartment complex going at the site, as well as the community, it will

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public parking. Angle parking on city streets requires a designation by the City Council

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via resolution to approve it. So that square there in yellow, that is the site in question.

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There's east-branded to the north, a kind of street here. This blue line there is our downtown

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development district and green line there is our downtown business district. I want to show this

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the show, the proximity of this site to our downtown. It's also interesting to note how the improvements

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that have been occurring along east-brundage, the co-op building here, a red smooth their

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offices here, this site is now getting developed. And obviously you have the high-skating

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rank in that PUD right there, which has had some further development. So it's an expansion of

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downtown as as growth happens. These infill lots are getting developed. Kind of zoomed in on the

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site now again. You can see a red building right here and then a lot of this is just concrete and empty.

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Space that is not being utilized. And again, the developer here wants to turn that into six apartment units on that site.

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Here's the proposed site plan. They're laying out, so they want to, again, add diagonal parking along the west side of the Conor Street there.

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give them five parking spaces and diagonal parking spaces that are, again, off outside of the right

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away. It's safer than having on street parking in terms of if you're having residents or

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people pulling in. It's just a better option. They have the additional right away and they're utilizing

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some of their properties well to accommodate the diagonal parking. Their configuration follows our

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public infrastructure design standards. Again, I always make them use a design vehicle that is a pickup truck as opposed to just a small sedan.

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We see larger trucks utilizing these sites or parking spaces like this. I like to see what that design vehicle looks like.

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And I always like to know where the center line of the road is, our driving lanes for a ton of street.

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And then where that back of that parking space would be to show that those that vehicle is outside of the driving.

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So we're not having any potential conflict issues.

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Up here, we, I also have them demonstrate a visibility triangle.

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So it shows that when someone is making backing out or making movement,

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that they are able to see what is potentially on East-Branded Street.

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Visibility triangle is within our city code.

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So we require that.

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And then again, there is sidewalk that is currently along Conner Street.

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And they're going to accommodate that sidewalk.

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just go further on to their property and down and that will be in an

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easements, public use easement and sidewalk fees and similar to what we did with

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first interstate bank off of Berksham Works. There it is just zoomed in a little

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bit so you kind of get an idea of what the dimensions and what that parking would

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look like. Again design vehicle I always use having music pickup truck just

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because it's a little bit bigger than the normal sedan and it will be five

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parking spaces. So they are proposing the improvements at that location. They're going to add

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five diagonal parking spaces along the west side when they submit their building permits

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right now. They only have a foundation only permits. So that's the work you're seeing now

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following that and going through Council with this, they will submit their building permit,

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which will include the site plan and show the final design for everything and they will have to

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having recorded for approval. So we checking in on that. And then it's all

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privately funded. So the all the the diagonal parking and sidewalk

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and standards within our right away as well as we'll be located in

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their easements are paid for by the development developer and it'll all be

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designed to city standard. So our recommendation next week will be to approve this

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resolution and that the mayor and city council authorize our public works

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director to be act on behalf of the council and mayor on all matters related to

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project, that comes in that easement agreement that was in your packet as well. If the developer

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has to change something or adjust something, they have to go through public works and clarify

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that this makes sense that it's still with and standard. Sometimes things change at various

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points, both. And those are the key points. Are there any questions?

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Questions? Yes, Councillor. Yes, sir. On the site plan that we've

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been

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which six parking sports and a finding out is that involved in this at all with the proposal?

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Yeah, mayor, through you, council on rents, no, it is not.

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So the diagonal parking that they are proposing there, it already exists, they're just going

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to be actually paving that area for that, to show that parking and actually delineated lines.

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But people are already parking at those locations.

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It's just the portion on Conestrate that we are approving.

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So that says six proposed,

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I guess I'm asking, is that better proof?

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I don't know if we're using it, but it's a better proof.

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When they submit their building permit, that's what we'll check.

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But it hasn't been approved through any public.

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Did you have something?

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Anything else for joining this one?

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I think in general, that's, it's a really nice improvement to that area.

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That area was pretty run down and it was becoming quite dilapidated.

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so between them and the engineering firm,

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I am in a vast framework for that area of town.

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So, anyway, thank you, Thomas.

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The discussion of P.L. will item number five.

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The discussion of P.L. dash 26-32 resolution resolution 18-26.

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Allison, monitor to subdivision.

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And with this is our city,

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Pymor Kelly Schroeder, welcome Kelly.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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Good evening, Council.

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Well, this is a subdivision on the corner of Wetlands Drive and first Avenue West, currently

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plattered as a lot A of the Alice in Minor subdivision, and it is zoned B1 business district.

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As you can see up there on the screen, it's surrounded by several other B1 properties,

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some R1 properties to the east and a few B2 to the north east.

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This is that subdivision plat, here's kind of the same size zoomed in a little bit, but you can see a lot one here.

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Zero point nine one acres, a lot two zero point nine zero acres.

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It's currently vacant land with a plan for future multifamily development on each of the lots.

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There is an existing irrigation and drainage easement up here on the north side of the property, which will remain.

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And any, you know, work that's done on those lots for development will have to take into consideration that drain inch ditch, so that will be addressed at the time of a building permit.

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Our future land use map indicates that this area is appropriate for commercial.

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There's also some residential nearby, which is that top color.

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This proposed subdivision and the proposed use of multi family is good in field development, and it's compatible with the surrounding area.

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we've seen a lot of other multi-family and some commercial pop-up in this area in the last couple

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of years. Public notification we sent letters out to 16 surrounding property owners published

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the ad in the paper and verified that a sign was posted on the property. Staff did not receive

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any questions, comments or concerns on this proposed subdivision. I'm planning Commission will

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be hearing this item and making the recommendation later this evening and staff's recommendation

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to plan and commission will be to recommend approval for you all next week.

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Do you have any questions?

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Questions regarding this project?

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All right, well thank you, Kelly. Very much.

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We now move on to item number six.

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This is, we're having a water and system capacity update

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and this is a utilities director, Dan Roberts.

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As you know, we've had a lot of county city growth,

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So Dan's agreed to give us an overview of what we have going on these days, so welcome Dan.

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All right, Evie Marin Council.

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First of all, I'd like to maybe set the stage.

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Each with what we're really talking about here and maybe some confusion is, our system capacity

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and water availability aren't the same thing. They don't equally each other. So, we want to talk

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about water system capacity. It's the capacity of our system based on a normal water year,

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we'll call it. So, adequate snowpack, reservoirs fill, normal operating capacity, stream flow conditions,

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are normal through the additional runoff. So under those under those conditions that's what we

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base are projected future capacity of the system to accommodate growth and the needs of our

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system. Now, because Mother Nature serves our water system, drought conditions are other conditions

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can affect that and it affects what water is available at a given point in time.

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So when we're experiencing drier conditions or maybe drop conditions, things can be affected,

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like low snowpacked reservoirs not filling, stream flows diminished on top of it and then

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the stream may go into regulation.

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That happens every year, the stream goes into regulation, but doesn't go into regulation

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so much that the city's priority water right is going to be called water priority.

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We don't want to lose that.

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If it happens, we lose the whole thing.

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And that's our primary source of water.

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So what has to happen is we manage, we have to manage the resource.

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And it's really to limit risk.

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And so if we were to impose our drought response plan,

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we've talked about that, then it would curtail our use of water

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so that we can use less of our stored water

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to supplement stream flows. So that's an action to manage the resource. So that maybe the next year,

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we don't, if a drought continues, we don't run in jeopardy of not having a reservoir spill.

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So if that continues year after year, we have a problem. So it's called water management. So availability

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and a capacity of two different things. So when we talk about system capacity, our water system,

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And we'll go back to 2012 when our master plans were completed.

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We have a really defined projected system capacities.

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We equated these things both on the water side and the sewer side to equivalent long units.

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6,700 water, 4,700 sewer.

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What does that translate into, let's say, a lot are developments that you guys can associate with.

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6,040,200 respectively. So with the help of the planning department, they've gone back and looked at what the growth has happened actually, since then how many lots City Council has approved that's going to take up that capacity.

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In the last five years, you've approved 681 lots, and that's on average of 136 per year.

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So on a capacity basis, we have capacity in the water system for another 5359 lots,

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or that projects the over 39 years of water resources available.

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Similarly, on the sewer side, 3,524 lots.

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So it's the more limiting factors

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as far as capacity goes, and that

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projects to be over 26 years of growth.

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So that gives you some metric and gauge

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of mess from this point moving forward,

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as you approve subdivisions of how much of that you are giving up.

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It doesn't mean that we won't ever have

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impose a drop response plan at any stage in this process because again that's

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about water management. Here's what the system can support moving forward as far

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as new growth and development. So water is one thing but sewer I mean that's you

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can add on to sewer. Maybe not water because water is a limited factor but sewer

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really isn't that good.

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Let me factor in water as water supply.

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So it is the supply itself and as you know,

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we're already exploring the lake, the cement option.

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That's going to take several years to evaluate.

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On the sewer side, it is a specific part in our process.

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We call it the oxidation dip.

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So there could be some enlargement of that process.

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So it's a little bit easier to accomplish.

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And just this fact on here, 20% of that five years that you've approved has built out as of today.

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So there's always that lag and new growth building out.

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And the last thing I want to point out on the drought condition, the only time the city has exercise

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as a drop response plan is in 2006, so that was 20 years ago, and there was a, we were in

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jeopardy of having our water right called out a priority by notice of the state engineer's

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office, and so what the city did is impose a twice a week, nighttime watering schedule based

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even odd addressing. So that's that's what happened for from July through the end of September.

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Right. That's all they managed that just to limit limit usage during that time.

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So we have to answer any more questions. I know you got to get going but later at any time

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we can talk it's way more complicated than the availability and how we manage it but

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That's the basis of it, but I'd be happy to discuss it more in detail at some point.

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Sure.

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Yes.

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I know we're kind of watching the plot that I think this is important that we don't

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set the plot by this discussion.

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2006, I think it's when we did the water ration and you sure that I can make the

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remember because I think that time there was a big push to do zero landscaping.

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There was talk about, you know, using stone on the drive of the yards.

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There were some really big concerns about water.

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Again, that's 20 years ago.

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I know we've required some water since then.

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That also, we've got a lot of holes now.

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But my question is, I understand your time.

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We have a full capacity.

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Everything is great.

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We've got this plan.

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We have enough water to add another 5,000 holes.

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My question is, does it just take one man, bad year, no snow on the mountain?

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Does it take two bad years in a row?

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For one point, do we have a cushion?

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That we're not saying we'll be able to basically air the ground water kind of plant that we use.

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We have anything else.

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Where we'd say we can have a ground here and still we don't worry about water ration.

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I mean, how much water we promised, beyond how much we actually have stored,

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what do we have promised?

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We want to say it, you have all these homes that people living in now, you know, we kind of like to know that, you know,

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we've promised, tax, or for water,

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do we just have to have one bad year to not be able

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to provide the water for our customers?

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Okay.

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We're going to have a dry year next year.

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So let's put one thing in perspective, so our domestic use, which is what we need to do to live

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and survive, is about 2.6 million gallons a day.

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What we get directly out of the biggest creek every year is over three times a, three and a half times that.

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That, in itself, that right can supply three times our uses right now.

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So, when you look at what we can provide to the community for survival in general use, that's the perspective.

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When you get into irrigation and use like that, that's what we're

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protecting as they're non-essential uses, and so we're really trying to

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conserve at that point to manage our water resource much, much, much better.

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So down, what do you think happened in 2006?

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The reason the reason it was imposed and the draw response reply was put into

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effect is City got a letter from the state engineer's office and says, hey, your 1882 water

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right is in jeopardy of being called out a priority. And so in response to that, the city started

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releasing additional water from this reservoirs to satisfy the creep flows so that that wouldn't

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happen. So the more senior users are satisfied which means we won't get called out a priority.

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So if we lose that right, then that eight and a half CFS, that I'm our MGD, and I'm telling

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you about, goes away, and then you have a bigger problem.

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So we manage it that way to protect that first and foremost, and then the stored water and

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the reservoir supplement it even more.

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So if a drought response plan is imposed even in the future, it's really to manage that resource

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better, not necessarily because we don't have the capacity to serve people's needs.

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I have a whole confidence in you. I believe you're a man of knowledge and I think you have a great presentation,

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but again, we ask these tough questions because we're asked that every day on the street,

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we're in a water world, you know. So, give us something to do with the respond light.

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So, thank you very much. Again, I respect you. You can do a great job.

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So, looking back to 2006, comparing it to 2026, how close were we to the 2006 call out?

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Oh, we weren't close this year to have it to call out.

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Because, you know, talking to anyone on the street.

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It was like, oh, it's a dry air.

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it's a dry air, it's drought, we're going to have to impose

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watering restrictions and whatnot.

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And so it's like looking at what,

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because we haven't had those drought years recently,

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other than this year.

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And all of Wyoming actually had to deal with that.

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So it was like, how do you compare 2006 to 2026?

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And I would say through all this discussion, and back to Councilman Branson's original question,

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is how many years would it take for it to be a real problem for us?

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I don't have the specific answer to that, and I will tell you what the late Tom and all of us

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who just sent for Tire told me who was our expert says, you know, if we experience

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Our reservoir, not filling for multiple years in our row, say, two or three years, then that's a drought that is really difficult to recover from.

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And you have to have some severe restrictions, like say, no irrigation or something of that sort.

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But again, it's more than nature supplies everybody's water where there's groundwater or surface water.

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You've got to, you've got to manage those situations as they unfold.

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It hasn't, it hasn't happened to us in our known history, so it doesn't mean that it can't.

445
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And our long range game planning game has then stated is we're slowly but steadily working towards the secondary water source, which is like dismissed.

446
00:35:37,090 --> 00:35:41,690
So, but that's down the road, but we've started that process. Is that there enough, Dan?

447
00:35:41,950 --> 00:35:43,290
Yes, Mr. Mayor, that's fair.

448
00:35:46,140 --> 00:35:48,800
Well, Dan, thank you so much for the presentation.

449
00:35:49,020 --> 00:35:52,780
I'm proud of you, man. You're concise and it was nice.

450
00:35:52,780 --> 00:35:59,540
Well, Stu, Stu is a right man, he warned me, no fewer than five times, so about having

451
00:35:59,540 --> 00:36:00,200
to do that.

452
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:00,760
That's not so.

453
00:36:01,340 --> 00:36:02,300
No, thank you, Dan.

454
00:36:03,140 --> 00:36:05,380
Anything else from Council before we depart?

455
00:36:06,620 --> 00:36:07,440
Yes, Councillor.

456
00:36:08,260 --> 00:36:16,960
I just wanted to remind everyone that this Saturday, September 19th, at 10am, there's a presentation

457
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:43,700
And then at the Museum on Main Street honoring Miss Indian America and its connection with Sheridan, there will be Diana Hargara, who was the 50th Miss Indian America will be doing a presentation on all of her reign.

458
00:36:43,700 --> 00:36:52,680
And then at 2 p.m. there's a dedication of a plaque down at the fairgrounds and at 3 p.m.

459
00:36:54,280 --> 00:37:00,600
The, um, Lucidian America that will be visiting in bite everyone to walk the

460
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,420
Miss Indian America trail at the Arboretum in the park.

461
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,800
Okay, very good.

462
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:13,520
Johnson, one thing to follow up on a question that was asked quite a while ago about e-bikes,

463
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:19,840
there is no one in town doing rentals. And I talked to the bike shop and they said that is mainly

464
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:26,720
because of the liability insurance that you have to carry. It's pretty extensive. And then the second

465
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:29,980
which is a request because I've been getting.

466
00:37:31,570 --> 00:37:41,810
We seem to have a dog poo on the sidewalk problem in this town and not just the sidewalks, but the paths as well.

467
00:37:42,730 --> 00:37:50,150
Just encouraging people to pick it up, regardless if you're on a path around the downtown. You should be picking it up and disposing of it.

468
00:37:51,170 --> 00:37:56,370
But we need to look at maybe putting in some bag holders downtown.

469
00:37:56,370 --> 00:37:58,450
Well, yeah, we don't have any downtime.

470
00:37:58,550 --> 00:38:02,610
We do have them on the trail system, but yeah, we can make it that.

471
00:38:02,770 --> 00:38:04,370
Chief, if you had any complaints with that.

472
00:38:07,470 --> 00:38:09,370
Yes, kind of like a bigger thing.

473
00:38:10,190 --> 00:38:15,330
I think Council would benefit from an overall presentation on our fleet.

474
00:38:15,370 --> 00:38:19,070
I've been impressed with Ms. Chaplundski's management of our system.

475
00:38:19,250 --> 00:38:23,690
And I think I would be good to know what our fleet consists of.

476
00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:30,890
what the annual percent replacement has been and if our replacement seems to be steady or if it changes from year to year.

477
00:38:32,590 --> 00:38:34,230
Heather, can you put something like that together?

478
00:38:35,930 --> 00:38:37,430
No, we'll get that done for you.

479
00:38:38,090 --> 00:38:39,510
Sorry, one last thing.

480
00:38:40,530 --> 00:38:53,470
I don't know where this rumor started within our town, but in the last 30 days, I have probably been contacted by no more than 15 people.

481
00:38:53,470 --> 00:38:56,070
that asked me this question.

482
00:38:56,770 --> 00:39:01,310
Is it really true that all of our recycling is getting dumped in the landfill?

483
00:39:01,590 --> 00:39:03,190
That none of it is being recycled.

484
00:39:03,890 --> 00:39:05,830
I don't know where this rumor started.

485
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:16,790
It's ridiculous, but maybe what we can do is have a presentation on our recycling efforts.

486
00:39:17,530 --> 00:39:21,390
And hopefully that will get out there and close that rumor.

487
00:39:22,070 --> 00:39:25,310
Well, you're asking Dan to create another presentation for it.

488
00:39:25,310 --> 00:39:29,670
Well, maybe Selena, maybe Selena, our recycling coordinator.

489
00:39:30,590 --> 00:39:34,450
But you know, I'm not going to, I'm winning this one.

490
00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:39,070
But part of that, I think is glass, because we were trying to do glass,

491
00:39:39,210 --> 00:39:41,530
and glass just, it wasn't viable product.

492
00:39:42,350 --> 00:39:43,870
So, but we still use the glass.

493
00:39:43,890 --> 00:39:46,050
We crush the glass and let the air out of it,

494
00:39:46,070 --> 00:39:48,410
and then we use it to cover it for the current stuff.

495
00:39:48,410 --> 00:39:52,330
So, Dan's going to give us a little bit of intro.

496
00:39:52,590 --> 00:39:57,510
Mr. Mayor, I'll be happy to give you a range for recycling presentation, but I think

497
00:39:59,010 --> 00:40:01,390
there's something I could just speak to right now.

498
00:40:01,670 --> 00:40:03,830
Just some people's minds about that.

499
00:40:03,930 --> 00:40:07,610
So, plastics, recycling is like the commodity market.

500
00:40:09,210 --> 00:40:14,470
Their plastics are numbered, 1 through 10s, and are 1 through 7s.

501
00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:21,490
And up until just recently, the numbers with three through seven on the bottom were not recyclable.

502
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:24,870
There's no market form. That's what we have to dispose of.

503
00:40:25,130 --> 00:40:30,970
We still run them through the recycling process because we didn't want to go out and tell people do this,

504
00:40:31,110 --> 00:40:32,030
but don't do that.

505
00:40:33,870 --> 00:40:39,810
And so we sorted those out and then they end up having to go to landfill because there's nowhere to take that.

506
00:40:39,810 --> 00:40:49,990
So that's what people are seeing, on top of the glass as well, because there's nobody that wants to take glass nowadays as well.

507
00:40:51,030 --> 00:41:07,290
Now, with that said, as of just a few weeks ago, there is a broker out of Canada that actually will take all of the plastics, and so we are on the road to be able to recycle 100% of our plastic bottles now.

508
00:41:07,290 --> 00:41:09,550
So that process has just started.

509
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:12,690
So when I just get news, thank you, Dan.

510
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:14,490
You still want to present to you?

511
00:41:15,170 --> 00:41:15,570
Yes?

512
00:41:16,130 --> 00:41:16,370
OK.

513
00:41:16,970 --> 00:41:20,370
I think it's important that the public doesn't understand that.

514
00:41:20,610 --> 00:41:23,570
I mean, you don't have a lot of public here tonight.

515
00:41:23,650 --> 00:41:25,410
I'm not sure if I'm going to be the coolest thing.

516
00:41:25,710 --> 00:41:29,150
But let's, let's, let's, let's, let's,

517
00:41:29,150 --> 00:41:31,130
let's, let's, let's, let's make a available for that, please.

518
00:41:31,490 --> 00:41:33,710
OK, we'll put that together for you.

519
00:41:34,070 --> 00:41:40,230
I just want to segue a little bit of what Councilwoman was saying about the public.

520
00:41:41,310 --> 00:41:45,870
Please, please, do not believe everything you see on social media.

521
00:41:46,770 --> 00:41:51,490
Please, social media is good for some things, but it is a rumor mail.

522
00:41:51,990 --> 00:41:59,910
If you have any questions, just call City Hall and ask, but please do not depend on social media

523
00:41:59,910 --> 00:42:01,430
to educate yourself.

524
00:42:01,610 --> 00:42:02,190
Thank you.

525
00:42:02,190 --> 00:42:03,830
Okay, anything else here?

526
00:42:04,210 --> 00:42:05,650
I agree.

527
00:42:06,490 --> 00:42:07,950
Don't believe everything you see on the internet.

528
00:42:08,430 --> 00:42:11,050
As it turns out, that one was true.

529
00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:14,010
It's just a really good explanation for it.

530
00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:17,070
I was going to ask Mr. Roberts,

531
00:42:17,410 --> 00:42:24,370
were you going to give the presentation on the capacity of the water supply system versus the water?

532
00:42:25,290 --> 00:42:27,470
I'm sorry, let me get the terminology right.

533
00:42:28,310 --> 00:42:31,850
My water and sewer system capacity versus the water supply system.

534
00:42:31,850 --> 00:42:34,830
We're going to give that on in the other night or was tonight yet.

535
00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:39,890
We're going to come back to, we're going to give a similar presentation at the regular meeting

536
00:42:39,890 --> 00:42:40,590
in a week.

537
00:42:43,310 --> 00:42:47,650
So people, we could just direct people to this study session if they want to see.

538
00:42:48,770 --> 00:42:49,370
Does that work?

539
00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:50,510
Yeah.

540
00:42:50,910 --> 00:42:54,650
I just wanted to make sure, because I was wondering, I was like, oh, this is going to be really

541
00:42:54,650 --> 00:42:58,610
good when it comes back through again, and I realized I wasn't sure if you were coming back

542
00:42:58,610 --> 00:42:58,950
through again.

543
00:42:58,950 --> 00:42:59,510
Did you give it?

544
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:59,790
No.

545
00:43:00,130 --> 00:43:00,510
Thank you.

546
00:43:01,490 --> 00:43:08,290
sounds like we have two reports together for you guys but we'll get stuff get on that

547
00:43:08,290 --> 00:43:14,210
for you. Anything else for tonight? Well we are a little late but I'm going to call this

548
00:43:14,210 --> 00:43:17,750
meeting at 613 and I'll have everybody have good evening.