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We're clear now that the United States is a little bit less.

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That's a great, it's a great, it's a great, it's a good.

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You know, it's good. You know, it's good.

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You know, it's good. You know, it's good.

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You know, it's good. That's true.

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That's my view right now, and then when I went to get rid of it, he comes.

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He had a pretty nice face, right?

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I was like, just like...

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Yeah, that's great. That's great.

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You can get rid of it.

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This is going to be a great opportunity to be facing that point and start the corner.

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So that's going to be a great design.

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It's going to be a flex group.

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I think it's going to be a flex group.

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I think it's going to be a flex group.

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I don't think the best thing we need here much.

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I want to keep this tomorrow.

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I want to keep this tomorrow.

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Let's see what we have.

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This one's the only thing I can see.

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If you're explaining the rules,

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I don't know.

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All right?

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I'll just let you know.

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Yeah.

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Here.

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Here.

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Here.

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Here.

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Here.

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Here.

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So here's my, this is what I sent.

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Don't worry about Michael.

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We're not leaving at you.

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Hi, Michael.

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So I sent this to Kerry just before the meeting.

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So essentially, September, October, November, December.

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And the application received, like, this is the dates I put together, I'm going to have for, yeah, but all these are, I'm going to have all of those, yeah, all that's a copy of the past date of those, yeah, I'm all right.

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Thank you very

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much.

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Thank you.

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Sure.

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Good

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evening.

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It's 501 p.m.

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I call this regularly scheduled meeting of the city of Sherman,

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Planning and Zoning and Board of Adjustments and Order.

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I don't want. We do have a core present tonight. Before we proceed, I'm going to explain the

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meeting format for those in the audience. You're all familiar with it. Each case is called

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in order is listed on the agenda. Then we'll read the legal description and geographic

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location on the nature of the request and the applicant. We'll give an opportunity to present

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the request and then audience members will call for audience members to present their

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comments or questions or concerns about an item. And then the applicant will give an opportunity

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to address the audience's questions or concerns.

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If you're in the audience and you have questions, please direct your comments and questions

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to the board.

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Then we will ask the applicant to address those things when it's their turn.

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There's not two rounds.

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There's only one round of audience comments and questions,

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so that all that way you can't please the first round.

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And then public discussion will close,

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and an additional discusser considered action on that item.

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So now we'll continue with the rest of the agenda.

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OK, so we have, I've learned adjustments tonight.

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We'll be Mr. Glenn Whitaker.

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Mr. David Downtown, myself.

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Mr. Paul Manley, and Mr. Brian Black.

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I have two.

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Mr. Drew action minutes on the regular June 2018,

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2024 meeting in Zoday, and planning and founding

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commission in the board of justice meeting.

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We'll see if we copy that ahead of time any adjustments or

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corrections to that.

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Now, I'll hear a motion on that item.

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I'll move through a group in minutes.

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So I can, I'll there say aye.

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Thank you.

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This is just an FYI for the audience.

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Those, our paintings are recorded now and they are online.

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So the minutes are abbreviated because you can watch full

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thing every time you need to have the words.

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Okay.

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I had a three as announcements.

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I don't have anything, but I know Rob has some announcements

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about patient changes and let off the meeting.

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Yes, starting in August, the City Hall building will be going under a remodeling, a phase

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of remodeling, so we won't be able to do our PMZ meetings here at City Hall for the next

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probably six to eight months. So I want to make a...

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Where that in August, the PNZ meeting will be located at the municipal ballroom, which is just across

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on the other side of L. Here, the main floor, that we do have two conflicts from our PNZ schedule that

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are not even posted on the September and October meetings. The Tuesday was already booked with the

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when they're following the Tuesday.

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So we will send out those candidory invites

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if they haven't already been sent out to all the Keynes E.

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Commissioners, but want to make that aware publicly

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that those two meetings will be changed.

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All right, then that was.

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Is that kind of October?

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Yeah, September 17th is moved to September 18th.

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And October 22nd is moved to October 23rd.

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Is the last meeting we'll have in this room?

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This one.

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And if you would like to look at your packet,

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you do, you can't see the remodel of the plants from the remodel of the city all

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billy.

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That's on consent, so please, we hope that you would approve it.

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I

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think you can get down there and present.

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That's it, and we'll move on to your citizen comments.

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So during this meeting in the planning, is on our Commission Board of Justice, we'll

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have a public comment on the agenda, I was listed under the opening portion of the agenda.

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And, of course, the Texas Government Code Section 5.5.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.

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But these matters may be discussed with city staff during regular business hours, but contacting them at times other than planning its own commissioning.

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There will also be an opportunity to speak regarding any of the public hearing items on the agenda when that item is presented.

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So, like I said before, after the presenter, then the item is going to speak on that item.

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However, to need to leave earlier something and you want to talk about something you have to turn now.

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We'll give you that opportunity to say anybody want to talk about the mid-connits and comments on any items that are on the agenda now.

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Okay, if not, and then we move on to the open public hearing this time, the process to identify the consent agenda.

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These are items in six and seven. These are asker items.

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Consider it to be routine and not.

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We're sure this is going to be enacted.

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And one motion without discussion unless a commission number will remember the audience or questions.

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Specifically to be discussed.

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You don't want exactly the entire two motion and vote.

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Is there anyone in the audience who would like to discuss items in five?

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I'm sorry, I'm just six, four, seven, before we consider them all at once.

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Not.

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And we'll move on.

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So we'll enter motion on our consent agenda.

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Move to approve.

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Right.

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I'll pay for say aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Thank you.

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Opposed.

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Okay.

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So that brings us the item eight.

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Okay.

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31.

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So how are we 75?

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Request to retail buildings, can we more to the associates and A and W

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surveyors?

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It's certainly probably located at 3.020 South Highway 75 being

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locked to our Sherman Crossroads Phase 3, and in the

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black lock industrial park, Lailock Commercial,

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over the district as follows for funding and zoning

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commission.

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Sideburner in the wrongs, ice cream and dairy store.

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So someone to present this item?

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OK.

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So when you're presenting, just please stay your name and your

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address clearly for the record.

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And then tell us a little bit about your project, please.

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Yes, hi.

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My name is Mighty Calville, 200 North Travis Street,

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a Sharda Texas representing Kimley Ward.

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I, our former city office, actually did this,

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but we're here to support locally.

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This is for the cycling, for girlside, the dairy, and the store.

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And it's located on the restaurants for work.

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And we've seen this item a few years ago, is that right?

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So it's just a renewal, any changes since we saw that and it was like 2022?

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Not my knowledge, but.

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Yeah, the site plan was approved back in 2018, originally.

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Obviously a lot has changed from the playwalk industrial or commercial overlay district.

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So this does the new plan that has been submitted does conform to our all of our current ordinances following review.

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We didn't get the reason this would typically be on consent, but we received the response a little late and so that's why we didn't get this off of consent.

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We didn't get that back onto consent for the agenda.

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Okay.

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So I'm over here and this is something I think informs.

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She graduates did this.

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Approximately.

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But then it's listed here during one twenty south highway, is it?

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Yeah.

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of these padsites.

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I'm going to have one address, right?

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Which one?

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It's a double number.

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75.

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It's my understanding.

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All of the padsites are 75.

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75.

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Those addresses.

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Like the brawls.

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I think that really well, the whole of the other ones are.

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What was the best ones?

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They're popping up there, so.

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Okay.

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Anybody else have any other questions?

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Thank you.

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Is there anyone from the audience to address this item?

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Okay, if not, maybe a minute, okay, now I'll hear a motion.

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Wait a minute.

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Second.

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Oh, favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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Okay, that's the question.

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Thank you.

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I have a 90.

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4300 block cock street.

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The request tomorrow at the tow bar tow bar properties.

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And help you add your survey and ink.

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Because I'm property located in the 4300 block cock street.

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Consisting out of 0.632.

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Here's being locked one and a part of a lot to block 31 hill top of states as follows.

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Planning a zoning public hearing and zone change from our sixth district to our five district.

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My name is Maritova and my head raise is a six toy pipe, Presto Melosron,

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which is a seven-five seat or nine-two.

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Can you tell us about this project? What are you looking to do here?

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Okay, we're trying to avoid to our six to our five.

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So, we'll try to build it on the floor for a house in there.

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We'll go for houses.

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We're not changing a lot of lines or anything.

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We're just going strictly to the zone change.

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When you say you've got to go for houses there,

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do you plan to split up that lot?

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We're changing the lines.

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We'll be about 50.

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It's in the eye by 120.

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Okay.

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Normally, come to us with an already plated into this. Why aren't we seeing them do a lot of lines with this? Do you just haven't just not decided how to split it up yet?

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Yeah, and they included that in the original application. Last month, this item was under, it was tabled, and it was under the cistern.

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For, for 41 18 Cystric Street, it included a larger area, but it was table at that time I believe Mr. Trobar didn't make it to the meeting.

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Since that meeting, he resumitted the survey with this example.

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But in the previous summit, he did show a lot lines for four lots that would be facing on co-street.

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So that is our understanding that that was their intent to do those.

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Does that mean that else will they be coming back with that?

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No, because they're next step if approved by P&Z in Council would be preliminary plan.

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Fine, fine.

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All right, thanks, guys.

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Is there anyone from the audience to the other side?

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Okay.

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We'll call this.

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I don't know any other questions.

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Anybody else?

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I just got so a question.

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I'm going to be sending that raw, and it looks like just

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it didn't work.

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The side of the property is that it's not seeing the limits.

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So then when you look at the survey,

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it is re-dress.

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Would you know where that might fall?

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I don't know what is on the map.

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It's a press.

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Is it?

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It's a shovel, very well.

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It's re-dress to a city street or a county street.

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I might defer that question to Wayne, as he starts

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looking it up since it's on the boundary. It's looking like it's probably not.

252
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Mario, do you know if that street exists?

253
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I don't think it's been built.

254
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So it's just designated as right.

255
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Essentially, it's just plated right away.

256
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Well, the reason I'm just a question is because that will be a,

257
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It looks like that'll be a couple of a lot.

258
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And with the corner of the side, set back, has that?

259
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And does the end of the room, I don't know.

260
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Does it seem like the end of the room?

261
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We have to wait for the platform to come through.

262
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Yeah.

263
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Do you start any of the doors on them?

264
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Yeah.

265
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I don't know if they see the outside, OK?

266
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Yeah.

267
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All right.

268
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You'll take that up and back.

269
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I mean, yeah, that was the requirement for the quality

270
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part of the portion of it.

271
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I think it's got almost 55 foot front-inch

272
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So it's possible for that to make that work.

273
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Yeah, based on that's an average of 55 feet per lot.

274
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But he could do 50 each lot and have a bigger end lot.

275
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I don't know.

276
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I don't know why it wouldn't work.

277
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All right.

278
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Is there a motion?

279
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Yes.

280
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I'll move to a group.

281
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Okay.

282
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All right.

283
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All right.

284
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You both.

285
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Okay.

286
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the next step. Okay, the racist item 10.

287
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Twenty-eight out one block.

288
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Blue flaning road and twenty-nine out of block.

289
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I think that's six, nine out of one.

290
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They're the rest of Chad McDeath, the O-L, the O-L L-2,

291
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the other seat, and Joseph Joyner, D-2,

292
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Summerville, and I'll see him under the direct one.

293
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Survey, concerns are probably located in the twenty-eight out one

294
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block. Blue flaning road and ten out of block.

295
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That's ninety-nine out of block.

296
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Number of six, nine out of one.

297
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track one consisting of 21.676 acres being a part of the DIVM Milligan survey,

298
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abstract number 575 DC shelf survey, abstract number 1097 and de-Harrison survey,

299
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abstract number 587 and being a part of track one into track two consisting of 23.565 acres

300
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being a part of DC shelf survey, abstract number 1097, abstract one consisting of 67.842 acres

301
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to being part of the S.M. and survey F-Shark number 621 and Track 2 consisting of

302
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1.0, 490 years being part of S.M. and survey F-Shark number 621 as follows.

303
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Your planning is on in public hearing and zone change from C1 district to R4 district to R5 district

304
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and R6 district to F.M Highway 691 over a district to a land development of joiner ranch.

305
00:20:31,090 --> 00:20:31,470
Yes, sir.

306
00:20:33,050 --> 00:20:33,330
Thank you.

307
00:20:33,330 --> 00:20:38,830
Mr. Chairman, Mr. Commissioner, my name is David Davis, 1830, Silver Side, Prairie on Texas.

308
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I'm with the D2 Development. We have this property under contract. I've been working

309
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it for about a year now. And I have been before you with zoning on various pieces of it.

310
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And we're now coming back to put this into a plan development, something district.

311
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So some of the things that we want to do is something to see.

312
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wants us to do economic, island, and in the ultimate development plan.

313
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I'm really here to answer any questions, but since we're going to be able to get this finished.

314
00:21:14,090 --> 00:21:21,230
I'd just like to add to that, Mr. Chairman, the D2 or David Davis has applied for zone changes

315
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on the southern portion, underneath Blue Flame Road, and a different applicant in the last

316
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couple years has requested zone changes on the north part.

317
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He's coming back essentially taking both of those recently zone properties and trying to put him into a planned development.

318
00:21:37,910 --> 00:21:41,930
Council, this property is less than 200 acres, what's being requested.

319
00:21:42,810 --> 00:21:45,990
And they did take this in front of Council to ask for approval.

320
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Anything under 200 acres, but above 100 acres requires Council approval before applying for it.

321
00:21:52,330 --> 00:21:56,330
And they received that approval from Council last month.

322
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So

323
00:22:03,700 --> 00:22:09,440
I'm looking at the zoning map and can you describe to me where these previously

324
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,380
resumed sections are?

325
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:22,120
It's a little bit hard with that, so the hatched area is the hatched area of south

326
00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:23,380
that's kind of blue hatched.

327
00:22:23,660 --> 00:22:29,980
That was resumed to R5 and it has a mix, what their proposal was, a mix of

328
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:51,440
Our five and our six homes in what their original proposal was. The property to the north of blue flame, that hatched blue hatched there. It was a resound as commercial, along 691, with pockets of multi-family. That was the PMZ Adam and Council item, where a built rent was proposed and was denied by Council.

329
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,490
All right,

330
00:23:03,940 --> 00:23:08,640
okay, so on your conceptual plan, it looks like you're trying to put in most of the

331
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:13,240
I think that's the other one side and commercial.

332
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:23,920
Yes, the multi-family commercial one, from 691 down to the yellow area, just north of Blue Flame Road.

333
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:32,240
We anticipate that for you to watch that was originally zone for our forward and then bring that back in.

334
00:23:35,700 --> 00:23:36,220
We

335
00:23:42,660 --> 00:23:47,440
go to the joint or ranch plan development document.

336
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,840
Go to page two.

337
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,300
Page two under residential standards.

338
00:23:54,580 --> 00:23:58,800
Can you kind of just, I mean, maybe just call it out for the record for the public.

339
00:23:58,980 --> 00:24:02,340
Looks like you have some maximums on some of these zoning.

340
00:24:02,340 --> 00:24:09,020
questions here, just take us through your thought process on that and what those limits are for.

341
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:14,100
Yeah, we probably worked through that 20 in the last week.

342
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:21,360
Our original proposal was to have everything south of Blue Flame Road, being 15, 60 for a lot.

343
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:29,640
And then everything more of the Blue Flame Road to be either 40s or townouts or multifamily.

344
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:37,620
This was our joint effort to kind of put percentages to that big block of zoning categories

345
00:24:37,620 --> 00:24:43,620
that you're looking at, so that, and I'm fine with what we came up with and how the breakdowns

346
00:24:43,620 --> 00:24:52,040
work in terms of not being over, you know, 8% of our fives or 40% of the our four wars.

347
00:24:52,860 --> 00:24:58,120
These percentages of maximum work, this gives me more flexibility as the market changes

348
00:24:58,120 --> 00:25:04,380
to move things around as I need to under the P&E and still conform to the zoning.

349
00:25:07,060 --> 00:25:12,800
Our concern of staff was that what was originally submitted could essentially allow for 40 foot,

350
00:25:12,820 --> 00:25:18,040
or 40 foot loss could be built throughout the entire residential district.

351
00:25:18,860 --> 00:25:26,520
So this essentially ties them down, although he wants flexibility, it also allows us to say,

352
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,600
Well, we do want to mix abuses and we are mixing housing types, not just off 40 foot

353
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:32,840
lots.

354
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,240
So, what you can look at.

355
00:25:35,420 --> 00:25:41,000
And on the town, on what you're saying, using a different measure to 15 acres, what's the total

356
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:41,760
acreage of this?

357
00:25:42,140 --> 00:25:44,040
Is it the 81 plus the 67?

358
00:25:44,460 --> 00:25:46,060
Which is 172 acres total?

359
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,240
And the residential district is 76 acres.

360
00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:00,180
So essentially, take 15 acres off of that.

361
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,980
That's your total residential.

362
00:26:01,980 --> 00:26:08,320
So a town crunch would be somewhere around 8% at that 15-acre maximum.

363
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:16,220
Yeah, I didn't notice that the town home was included in your single family and breakdown, as opposed to multi-panelists.

364
00:26:16,420 --> 00:26:24,480
So for you, as a town home, individually planted lots, not one lot with 10 units on it.

365
00:26:26,540 --> 00:26:28,080
Well, that's a good question.

366
00:26:28,860 --> 00:26:39,640
We've done it both ways, I'm not sure what the market wants here, but I've never done one with more than five to one building, but they are individually planted.

367
00:26:40,220 --> 00:26:40,960
They're just connected.

368
00:26:41,860 --> 00:26:42,880
Yeah, that makes sense.

369
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,660
So yeah, more likely to be sold.

370
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,280
They are sold.

371
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:46,000
Yeah, they are.

372
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:46,680
They're not.

373
00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:49,020
They're not.

374
00:26:51,460 --> 00:26:51,960
They're.

375
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,080
And your point.

376
00:26:53,080 --> 00:27:00,600
You said the units shall follow the base on any districts of R6, R5, or RTH of Sermon's zoning

377
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:01,060
ordinance.

378
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,260
As it exists, or it may be amended, except as known to here in.

379
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,240
I grid through this, and maybe

380
00:27:11,420 --> 00:27:17,020
this, I didn't see anything that varied from them.

381
00:27:17,060 --> 00:27:24,040
So basically, when we talk about R5, R4, or R4, RTH, it follows what is established already

382
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:29,200
determine zoning definitions for those at this time I'm asking for no

383
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:29,460
variance.

384
00:27:31,980 --> 00:27:36,180
Just the flexibility of having a mix of housing and

385
00:27:36,180 --> 00:27:38,720
lot types within that residential district.

386
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,600
So they don't have to come back every single time that they were doing

387
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:42,400
straight zoning.

388
00:27:42,780 --> 00:27:45,920
They have to amend the zoning district and do go through the whole

389
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,660
three month process again.

390
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,780
But if they were to change that, if what they defined our five

391
00:27:50,780 --> 00:27:54,240
as changed and different from what we defined it as.

392
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,060
That would have to be detailed.

393
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:56,860
No, no matter.

394
00:27:57,420 --> 00:27:59,820
So based on the way that this has been proposed,

395
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,480
they would have to build the lots based on our current zoning

396
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,000
ordinance.

397
00:28:05,460 --> 00:28:08,440
If it's a 50 foot lot, 40 to 50 foot lot,

398
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,680
it would need to follow our four regulations.

399
00:28:10,980 --> 00:28:13,960
If it's a 50 to 60 foot lot, it would need to follow our five

400
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,480
doesn't, bad regulations.

401
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,680
The way you have these limits,

402
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:33,900
We could end up with a maximum density of, well, at 8% down almost 40% r4 and then that played us with 52% in r5 and no r6.

403
00:28:36,660 --> 00:28:37,600
That's correct.

404
00:28:41,250 --> 00:28:43,230
Do you have attention to that r6?

405
00:28:43,470 --> 00:28:44,690
But to include r6 in this?

406
00:28:45,530 --> 00:28:46,670
To be it's market driven.

407
00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:53,910
What we came up with is if the way this is laid out, if I wanted to do it all r6 I could.

408
00:28:53,910 --> 00:28:57,110
And that's the reason to substate it that way.

409
00:28:58,310 --> 00:29:03,550
We feel like market right now has once in 50s and the few 40s.

410
00:29:04,010 --> 00:29:08,390
I think our current zoning are our current layout as 30%

411
00:29:08,390 --> 00:29:11,250
between our 30% and 40s.

412
00:29:11,690 --> 00:29:13,870
And everything else is 53% now.

413
00:29:17,550 --> 00:29:20,330
Would you make it work with the minimum number of our 60s?

414
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,740
I'd like to leave this flexibility way it is.

415
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,320
But I think with the minimum number of our 60s,

416
00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:57,060
We do more to the big lots, and that's the shoving of the big lots.

417
00:29:57,620 --> 00:29:59,960
I would like to hear the minimum as well.

418
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:26,740
I don't know what to do right now. I kind of work for council. I kind of work for the citizens. I don't know. This is a executive decision stuff, but executive opinion, but I don't know what to do as a commission.

419
00:30:26,740 --> 00:30:27,820
Just come

420
00:30:31,910 --> 00:30:35,250
on, come on a little while you know, keep the kind of these are good thoughts.

421
00:30:35,490 --> 00:30:39,470
Would you like to sing the plans I currently have it?

422
00:30:41,970 --> 00:30:44,050
Yeah, we're going to grow this.

423
00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:46,290
Is there any speed at all emphasis on this?

424
00:30:50,460 --> 00:30:52,140
Yeah, I'm going to be clear that.

425
00:30:52,260 --> 00:30:53,100
I like this.

426
00:30:53,580 --> 00:30:57,440
I do, but I just want to see a minimum number of our sex as well.

427
00:30:58,180 --> 00:30:58,440
All right.

428
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,880
This is the plan that we currently have.

429
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,460
These are our forces.

430
00:31:04,660 --> 00:31:05,420
These are our wars.

431
00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:09,540
That probably will end up being our five.

432
00:31:09,860 --> 00:31:11,580
And not four wars down there.

433
00:31:12,180 --> 00:31:14,000
They'll maintain also them.

434
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,620
And to spend time out on the questions.

435
00:31:16,460 --> 00:31:16,700
Family.

436
00:31:17,180 --> 00:31:21,880
We got a minute, so you can see 60's in here.

437
00:31:22,980 --> 00:31:23,940
One time.

438
00:31:24,860 --> 00:31:25,620
Was it as a patient?

439
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,740
This thing is incredibly expensive.

440
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,460
We're all because there's a reason why I'm going to try down the center of this.

441
00:31:31,460 --> 00:31:34,600
And there's massive stuff that would also work on the side.

442
00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:37,360
So I've got 12 of it in the middle of the painting wall

443
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,980
as it was in some parts of the painting wall.

444
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:45,700
So it's going to be a view, so it's more a lot.

445
00:31:46,580 --> 00:31:48,240
So those are forms.

446
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,700
That looks like it's way less than 40% of the view.

447
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:52,100
It's third.

448
00:31:56,030 --> 00:31:57,090
They brought up the view.

449
00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:58,610
All the work on this view for a while.

450
00:31:59,090 --> 00:32:03,070
I don't really know what's just a bad view and same but bad view.

451
00:32:03,630 --> 00:32:10,850
We can lock it into that R4, I would like that, but it's something I can see and quantify, so that helps in making a decision.

452
00:32:11,650 --> 00:32:18,470
Yeah, and our back and forth was, hey, there's no, there's no acreage limitations, it's just all.

453
00:32:18,790 --> 00:32:27,850
Then we had a discussion back and forth. What is the maximum or minimum that you can, that you can be comfortable with?

454
00:32:27,850 --> 00:32:45,310
But it's, if the board feels like we need less 40, 40 foot lots and a minimum requirement of 60 foot lots, that's up to, to this board and to make a decision on whether they, you, you all would like to do that.

455
00:32:45,310 --> 00:32:47,770
And how many R4s are on here?

456
00:32:48,370 --> 00:32:50,370
About 30 percent.

457
00:32:50,750 --> 00:32:51,250
I'd love it.

458
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,680
And that was way less than 15 acres per town.

459
00:32:58,020 --> 00:32:58,560
How could you, okay?

460
00:32:59,060 --> 00:32:59,800
So that's what I think.

461
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,060
And what's your R5?

462
00:33:02,180 --> 00:33:03,260
I don't want you to take away the place.

463
00:33:03,620 --> 00:33:05,460
But that's what we see in that.

464
00:33:05,580 --> 00:33:06,480
I do like that.

465
00:33:09,670 --> 00:33:11,030
Why don't we talk about that?

466
00:33:13,030 --> 00:33:13,390
Yes.

467
00:33:13,390 --> 00:33:13,450
Yes.

468
00:33:13,450 --> 00:33:13,770
Yes, area.

469
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:15,970
It's not four weeks.

470
00:33:17,450 --> 00:33:18,450
We could add some count.

471
00:33:18,450 --> 00:33:19,250
And I'll see you in the comments.

472
00:33:22,250 --> 00:33:26,650
So, you know, lock in the seven on our picture.

473
00:33:27,170 --> 00:33:29,230
The best exactly seven, I could say,

474
00:33:29,410 --> 00:33:33,090
that you want to download a little bit in 15.

475
00:33:33,910 --> 00:33:34,370
Questioner.

476
00:33:34,490 --> 00:33:37,610
Well, that I've come here, if we could lock in the R4 in town,

477
00:33:37,770 --> 00:33:40,710
because whatever that combination is,

478
00:33:40,830 --> 00:33:42,750
if you want to make a bottom R4 town,

479
00:33:42,970 --> 00:33:46,210
how is this exact 15, that's what they've done max.

480
00:33:46,210 --> 00:33:50,430
So that is that other third part of the long term one.

481
00:33:50,650 --> 00:33:53,170
That's the same thing as the first one.

482
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,700
The right down, I'm sure one of the 1217.

483
00:34:03,490 --> 00:34:04,150
This is something I'll...

484
00:34:04,150 --> 00:34:06,570
Was you remember that was the R4 at the town count?

485
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,540
We got 5, 1, 6, 3, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8,

486
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,620
8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8,

487
00:34:27,460 --> 00:34:28,300
8, 8, 7, 7, 8,

488
00:34:32,650 --> 00:34:32,650
7, 8, 5, 8, 8.

489
00:34:32,650 --> 00:34:36,130
The thing is, to biting by the entire acreage, the one on the other.

490
00:34:36,130 --> 00:34:38,290
Just the acreage of the single-family lives.

491
00:34:41,660 --> 00:34:43,080
That's not the way that works out.

492
00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:53,240
Yeah, because your percentages are based on how good we have the read on shine.

493
00:34:56,140 --> 00:35:01,300
I guess 49.8% of all.

494
00:35:16,450 --> 00:35:21,030
So that would be third, we'll just say third one percent.

495
00:35:23,860 --> 00:35:25,280
It's a very slightly convertible.

496
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:25,940
It was

497
00:35:33,780 --> 00:35:34,800
that five.

498
00:35:37,130 --> 00:35:38,130
Kind of more than one.

499
00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:38,770
One second.

500
00:35:39,250 --> 00:35:39,410
So that.

501
00:35:43,790 --> 00:35:44,530
There's two questions.

502
00:35:46,630 --> 00:35:47,090
All right.

503
00:35:49,170 --> 00:35:50,590
That was a good idea.

504
00:35:50,850 --> 00:35:51,470
I think that's an executive session.

505
00:35:51,730 --> 00:35:52,730
So the planning is on a commission.

506
00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:54,550
We'll now hold a closed executive session.

507
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:57,050
We're going to start up to the Texas Open Media Executive section.

508
00:35:57,370 --> 00:35:58,290
Five, five, one.

509
00:35:58,390 --> 00:35:58,810
One, two, one.

510
00:35:58,810 --> 00:35:59,090
One, two, one.

511
00:35:59,170 --> 00:36:00,470
You can solve the city attorney.

512
00:36:01,050 --> 00:36:01,770
That's a little question.

513
00:36:01,950 --> 00:36:02,550
So we'll be right back.

514
00:36:02,690 --> 00:36:02,830
Okay.

515
00:36:02,830 --> 00:36:04,750
Yes, five, two.

516
00:45:38,860 --> 00:45:42,200
Okay, it's 542 and we're back in session.

517
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:52,320
So, can we go back to a plan development document to again?

518
00:45:55,030 --> 00:46:02,070
Okay, so, we talked about the single family limits that you're suggesting here.

519
00:46:02,270 --> 00:46:05,350
And then, enough we've mentioned multiply family.

520
00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:13,120
But down below, it says no more than 75% of C1 and F30 for the whole project, right?

521
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:13,780
Am I reading that right?

522
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:22,780
So actually the commercial district, 75% can be multi-family of the C1 slash model.

523
00:46:24,140 --> 00:46:25,400
We're all about what kind of five percent.

524
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,240
Okay, so that's not the whole project.

525
00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:30,000
All right, good deal.

526
00:46:33,010 --> 00:46:36,390
So I'm assuming that there's a point at which this doesn't work for you.

527
00:46:36,490 --> 00:46:37,750
It doesn't make sense, right?

528
00:46:39,730 --> 00:46:42,090
But I really want to see a minimum number of our successes.

529
00:46:42,090 --> 00:46:46,710
And so, city, what do you think you could make work?

530
00:46:49,740 --> 00:46:52,700
It's my understanding that the city is just perceived

531
00:46:52,700 --> 00:46:54,060
a new housing study.

532
00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:57,040
And the housing study, as I understand,

533
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,860
was really kind of focused on more forward in the housing.

534
00:47:01,700 --> 00:47:03,840
The larger those lots, the more expensive they are

535
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,720
from our developers, the more expensive they are to sell.

536
00:47:07,780 --> 00:47:11,360
You know, right now I don't have room for our sixes

537
00:47:12,380 --> 00:47:23,060
In my current plan, if one can find the townhouse of the R4 and put a lid on that, I'm okay

538
00:47:23,060 --> 00:47:28,080
with doing that, the setting of minimal number of 60s.

539
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:34,220
I don't have to get there from here because I mean I'd have to tell the river in the language.

540
00:47:35,460 --> 00:47:37,580
So, if at this moment in time, I had a work

541
00:47:40,430 --> 00:47:42,250
to understand why it's even listed in your

542
00:47:42,250 --> 00:47:42,530
media.

543
00:47:49,590 --> 00:47:58,190
Basically, it was a conversation that Robin I had essentially, since it was originally

544
00:47:58,190 --> 00:48:03,670
all its own for R6, he was kind of given me the flexibility of what R6 and if I wanted

545
00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:05,570
to, and I was fine with it.

546
00:48:05,570 --> 00:48:11,330
I didn't put it in there, but it's there, and I'm fine with it being there in this

547
00:48:11,330 --> 00:48:19,960
If you're going to pull my feet to the far end, so I'm not going to have to go back and

548
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,540
really work on what you're pretty on.

549
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,280
Would you like to take this out?

550
00:48:26,140 --> 00:48:29,700
You're performing out, too, but I think that's fine.

551
00:48:33,170 --> 00:48:33,510
All right.

552
00:48:34,470 --> 00:48:34,790
Okay.

553
00:48:34,850 --> 00:48:37,050
Anything to add to the audience?

554
00:48:38,490 --> 00:48:38,810
No.

555
00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:39,930
Thank you.

556
00:48:44,350 --> 00:48:45,050
Thank you.

557
00:48:45,050 --> 00:48:45,430
Thank you.

558
00:48:45,730 --> 00:48:46,430
Thank you very much.

559
00:48:46,430 --> 00:48:49,390
Okay, is anyone from the audience to address this item?

560
00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:50,870
Yes, sir.

561
00:48:56,300 --> 00:48:57,120
Yes, good evening.

562
00:48:58,100 --> 00:49:01,800
Mark Miller, 15900, Julie Road, Addison Texas.

563
00:49:02,820 --> 00:49:04,920
I'm here tonight representing wholesome.

564
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,040
We are the world's luck largest cement company,

565
00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:09,720
and the operator of numerous,

566
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,160
for any mixed concrete solutions all over the Texas.

567
00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:16,380
I don't come here tonight to necessarily

568
00:49:16,380 --> 00:49:22,060
necessarily opposed to the ranch or opposed development as a cement and ready

569
00:49:22,060 --> 00:49:27,480
mixed convertible producer. We're certainly very pro-business. When I am very

570
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:32,700
concerned about it and I'm sure is planning his own staff, y'all mind, share my

571
00:49:32,700 --> 00:49:39,560
concerns is the incompatibility that we have between two very chasing uses. Mr. Ray

572
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,980
you may have gotten the letter, the wholesome wrote.

573
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,280
So, yeah, so I'm glad you're here.

574
00:49:45,460 --> 00:49:46,820
I was up in the talk about this.

575
00:49:47,060 --> 00:49:52,500
Yeah, so I'm a wholesome certainly operate back in that.

576
00:49:52,660 --> 00:49:57,040
Rather, it's included an area of choice row for 30 or 40 years.

577
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,580
And I have two, I have several questions for the developer,

578
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,900
and then really wanted to reinforce the ask here tonight

579
00:50:06,900 --> 00:50:13,440
In addition to the question, really to ask is that, and this is really odd for me to hear

580
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:14,740
question use.

581
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,080
I'm usually the guy that goes to airings and asks all the homeowners to test their might.

582
00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:20,960
So I do that all over the world Texas.

583
00:50:22,140 --> 00:50:26,700
Because I do it, and I see how stirred up people get over industrial uses.

584
00:50:27,220 --> 00:50:28,420
And I know he also did too.

585
00:50:29,460 --> 00:50:31,080
That's what concerns we have.

586
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,940
We have, you know, some reasonably high density residential going in,

587
00:50:34,940 --> 00:50:42,030
immediately and actually go back to the map there, the zoning map,

588
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,860
yeah, one more, maybe one more.

589
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,520
That's, no, it's a zoning map.

590
00:50:51,060 --> 00:50:53,820
Now, I think it's a zoning map, is that a show plan there?

591
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:54,740
No, it's that one.

592
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,120
Maybe it's the conceptual plan.

593
00:50:59,320 --> 00:50:59,720
There we go.

594
00:51:00,300 --> 00:51:07,920
So that area that is sort of the dirt-looking area that's all into heavy manufacturing zone,

595
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,320
and have them for quite some time.

596
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:17,280
You can see that there's a very close proximity to the uses.

597
00:51:18,580 --> 00:51:22,880
Again, like I said, I'm not here to stop doing a rant or to propose.

598
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:28,220
Some things we might do to maybe mitigate future experiences

599
00:51:28,500 --> 00:51:30,900
and future conflicts with the two.

600
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,200
Well, I guess we could say for argument, potentially, in parallel uses.

601
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:46,120
One is, it's been my experience that residents of users usually are in love with my kind of facility.

602
00:51:46,420 --> 00:51:51,940
They're not usually in love with writing which plans even though you need writing which plans to build their homes.

603
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:58,380
And I worry that, as we move forward in this development gets built out,

604
00:51:58,380 --> 00:52:01,420
There could lead two future grievances.

605
00:52:01,620 --> 00:52:07,580
Future complaints within the city could be a burden on code enforcement officers,

606
00:52:07,720 --> 00:52:10,160
even to all of you, certainly to us.

607
00:52:11,060 --> 00:52:22,640
So simple ask in our letter is to provide personal transparency and put the potential requirement

608
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:29,760
that the folks know that they're coming in and they have an M2 zone more or less next door in.

609
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:39,540
I think next door, if you see the yellow there, that's immediately a bunch on the east side. I assume that's residential. That's how I read that code.

610
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:49,900
I guess that leads me to a question. In a couple of questions I have, in addition to the ask to maybe provide just some transparency.

611
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:58,460
You work open to variety methods. We've worked with other jurisdictions, adjacent to our plans that this notice requirement seems to have worked for them.

612
00:52:59,780 --> 00:53:26,400
But the green space there, it seems like the green space is a good idea, I understand that this development has a lot of green space, which I know is probably important to develop or any of y'all, but having the green space is a buffer so that those residents are immediately adjacent, now I know that there's a small buffer between those two uses and I believe that buffer is a little bit of bottom land and maybe a rail right away through there.

613
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:33,340
But second, I guess first question is, why the residential right begins this and other questions

614
00:53:33,340 --> 00:53:34,580
what?

615
00:53:35,700 --> 00:53:38,320
Well, the landscape buffers be maintained.

616
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,720
There's a significant tree line in there between the two zoning districts.

617
00:53:43,580 --> 00:53:45,460
Well, the tree line be maintained.

618
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:54,060
And what other sound and attenuation might be provided by the developer just so that, you know,

619
00:53:54,060 --> 00:53:59,580
But as they build out their high quality development, there's noise in my community.

620
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:02,120
Because we are in our community in too zone.

621
00:54:03,060 --> 00:54:05,060
Again, I feel like I'm rambling on quite a bit here.

622
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,680
I will stop and have to answer in questions.

623
00:54:09,500 --> 00:54:09,620
All right.

624
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,780
I think I'm going to get this into the second question.

625
00:54:13,700 --> 00:54:14,360
Thank you very much.

626
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:16,280
Thank you.

627
00:54:16,700 --> 00:54:17,820
Anyone else from the audience?

628
00:54:18,100 --> 00:54:19,000
You're saying?

629
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,760
On the future land use map?

630
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:35,220
Where does it have to and industrial fit in, or does it just not, and I don't see any of it?

631
00:54:35,540 --> 00:54:37,100
Yeah, this thing worries you.

632
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:49,520
In the comprehensive plan that was adopted in 2022, this area wasn't identified as an area that was for expansion of manufacturing uses.

633
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,520
That doesn't mean that the existing manufacturing uses

634
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:58,500
are to go away, but over time, that as things change

635
00:54:58,500 --> 00:55:02,700
and as the development occurs, that the city council

636
00:55:02,700 --> 00:55:06,120
approved for this area to be more residential focused.

637
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,200
Just like, but I'd like to note, though, Mr. Chairman,

638
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,780
that, you know, based, and I appreciate his comments,

639
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,980
the properties are already zoned residential,

640
00:55:15,980 --> 00:55:24,620
and Artis owned R5 currently south of Blue Flame and a portion of it is Artis owned R4 North of Blue Flame.

641
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:31,520
So the entitlements are currently already there to build single family there already.

642
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:39,980
So the change from what is being proposed and what's out there currently is not much different other than the flexibility.

643
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,420
But I understand that concerns for sure.

644
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,180
Okay, last of all, anyone from the IITs?

645
00:55:48,300 --> 00:55:54,120
All right, if not, then uh, Mr. Davis, if you'd like to respond or you have anything

646
00:55:55,720 --> 00:56:00,400
that, you can't comment about proximity to residential and also the questions about tree line.

647
00:56:01,820 --> 00:56:04,260
I appreciate this position.

648
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:13,220
I have built them against railways in different industrial areas in the past who just did

649
00:56:13,220 --> 00:56:19,400
the project and the Lothian that was adjacent to the industrial area, and we've got the

650
00:56:20,180 --> 00:56:29,480
30 or 40 foot KD trail right away on the eastern side of our property, and his side.

651
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:35,680
And we do that heavy trees along there that we're not going to take after and part of the

652
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:36,840
development plan plus.

653
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:43,760
We've got a lot of open space on that side of our RV, going all the way at 691.

654
00:56:45,060 --> 00:56:48,700
So, our highway trip is going to go down through there.

655
00:56:48,940 --> 00:56:51,660
I don't foresee a problem with a resident system,

656
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,440
but I have to go through this.

657
00:56:56,900 --> 00:56:59,800
We brought half, hasn't given us a few days later here.

658
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,620
Did you have any discussions with that?

659
00:57:02,140 --> 00:57:03,180
Just received a letter.

660
00:57:03,660 --> 00:57:05,540
Other than their first review that they did,

661
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,800
I provided those comments along with my comments

662
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:08,900
to the applicant,

663
00:57:11,060 --> 00:57:12,500
and they didn't make those changes.

664
00:57:13,180 --> 00:57:15,600
I got a proof, you know, I said, are you good with these changes?

665
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,480
We made those changes both from ask comment and my comments,

666
00:57:19,740 --> 00:57:22,480
staff's comments, and that's what's in front of you today.

667
00:57:30,630 --> 00:57:31,610
Thank you for the question.

668
00:57:32,310 --> 00:57:37,910
But this request from Olsen for we're asked to, say,

669
00:57:37,910 --> 00:57:51,150
A or A to the restrictions to amendments to legal documents, I don't believe I've ever seen this commission ask be asked to approve or deny those types of things before.

670
00:57:51,150 --> 00:57:53,890
That would have been our jurisdiction to do.

671
00:57:59,970 --> 00:58:01,330
It's asking for,

672
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:10,500
like, burgers to be added to every feed, and it

673
00:58:33,060 --> 00:58:33,880
seems out of the ordinary.

674
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:38,960
Yeah,

675
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,900
I've never seen one of these particular types of eating either.

676
00:58:47,580 --> 00:58:49,260
I don't know that this before.

677
00:59:14,690 --> 00:59:20,230
I just want to make a comment, I've heard all the discussion I've heard of everyone's thoughts about

678
00:59:21,730 --> 00:59:29,610
single-family, further definition of minimums and maximums just by my recollection.

679
00:59:29,770 --> 00:59:37,050
This PD has more a greater percentage of single-family as opposed to other uses than any other PD that I've seen,

680
00:59:37,050 --> 00:59:38,650
maybe since Heritage Ranch.

681
00:59:39,310 --> 00:59:40,870
So I'm pleased with it.

682
00:59:42,190 --> 00:59:46,170
I've seen, I've read this study of the excerpts of the study

683
00:59:46,170 --> 00:59:49,390
that people have referenced at said a majority of housing

684
00:59:49,390 --> 00:59:52,270
in Sherman is unaformable for a majority of its residents.

685
00:59:53,250 --> 00:59:56,730
So when we talk about putting a minimum on our six,

686
00:59:57,090 --> 00:59:59,050
if the development does not believe the markets coming.

687
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,920
Drive it and an independent study says that that's not what people have for them.

688
01:00:06,140 --> 01:00:10,460
That's not going to be a big deal for me to include that.

689
01:00:20,590 --> 01:00:24,010
I think we're in an excerpt from it that was published.

690
01:00:25,030 --> 01:00:25,950
Here's where I'm meeting out.

691
01:00:31,030 --> 01:00:33,990
We're out there at the city council's review.

692
01:00:33,990 --> 01:00:40,490
that study now? We're about to leave you with it. Yeah, we, our consultant, we hired our CLCo

693
01:00:40,490 --> 01:00:46,150
at a Boston to their real estate consulting firm to conduct a housing study. They've been doing

694
01:00:46,150 --> 01:00:52,190
that for about the last two or three months. They presented the draft results of that to Council

695
01:00:52,190 --> 01:01:00,830
of the budget meeting of June. And that draft report is not a final draft yet, and the Council

696
01:01:00,830 --> 01:01:07,890
we'll be meeting with the consultant on one of the ones later in August to go over some

697
01:01:07,890 --> 01:01:10,270
of the final.

698
01:01:11,750 --> 01:01:16,750
So city council hasn't necessarily given that report as guidance at this point.

699
01:01:17,070 --> 01:01:17,950
Not yet.

700
01:01:20,370 --> 01:01:20,490
Yeah.

701
01:01:20,990 --> 01:01:24,570
And that once that report is complete, we will make that public on our website.

702
01:01:30,780 --> 01:01:36,080
Not sure if you want me to mention just that some of the brief summary that they provided

703
01:01:36,740 --> 01:01:42,400
was that multi-family were generally in the budget workshop based on the pipeline, the

704
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:47,140
development pipeline that we have, from multi-family were pretty close and having enough

705
01:01:47,140 --> 01:01:53,840
capacity and from multi-family units moving into the future, but another statement, as Paul

706
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,500
mentioned from his news report.

707
01:01:57,580 --> 01:01:59,020
There is an affordability challenge.

708
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:04,180
As we are all aware of, we hear about often, and the affordability challenge

709
01:02:04,180 --> 01:02:08,220
according to the consultant is often solved by smaller homes and smaller lots.

710
01:02:18,210 --> 01:02:23,670
Mr. Davis, the map we've had earlier, yesterday when we were showing you where we had it.

711
01:02:32,450 --> 01:02:35,190
Will we see this again once he has a more final?

712
01:02:36,210 --> 01:02:38,450
You will see cycline and in-class.

713
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:47,480
Can we somehow record this and get just a group to review that?

714
01:02:47,540 --> 01:02:47,580
Yes.

715
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:48,780
David, can you leave that with us?

716
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:49,580
Exactly.

717
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:50,320
Yeah.

718
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:51,280
I'll send you a look.

719
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:53,280
We'll include that in our minutes.

720
01:02:55,730 --> 01:02:57,870
Is there any other questions?

721
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:02,540
Any more questions?

722
01:03:07,180 --> 01:03:07,760
We'll be back tomorrow.

723
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:08,660
I'll just get up for a motion.

724
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,900
We'll move to approve the proposal.

725
01:03:18,540 --> 01:03:19,480
Subject to this staff.

726
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:20,100
Do you like it?

727
01:03:27,180 --> 01:03:27,480
All right.

728
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,420
All in favor of approval say aye.

729
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,700
I'll take over the Bosing, say I,

730
01:03:45,100 --> 01:03:48,980
the split, didn't even so, just doesn't really carry either way.

731
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:50,060
Can you take your another motion?

732
01:03:53,590 --> 01:03:55,310
Okay, we'll hear another motion, somebody's ready.

733
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:23,740
Based on

734
01:04:25,980 --> 01:04:29,300
that thing, that you'll provide, which I'm calculating,

735
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:36,760
at 31% of town loans in R4, which would lead 69% for R5.

736
01:04:36,900 --> 01:04:38,660
He's already saying, well, you are safe.

737
01:04:38,660 --> 01:04:43,660
So I'm fine with that a lot of thing up.

738
01:04:45,900 --> 01:04:49,740
It's well reduced potential for four things.

739
01:04:50,060 --> 01:04:51,040
8,000 columns.

740
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,140
But you're saying that the P, the P, the NMR,

741
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:57,700
the NMR, the maximum of, at 31%, which would then lead R5

742
01:04:57,700 --> 01:04:58,580
the maximum of what?

743
01:04:59,260 --> 01:05:02,700
Well, technically, you have to combine R, T, H and R,

744
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:04,580
to max it.

745
01:05:04,860 --> 01:05:06,560
The NMR is same for, OK.

746
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:10,100
I don't have the time, I don't have the time.

747
01:05:10,100 --> 01:05:10,280
I don't have the time.

748
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:10,880
I don't have the time to do.

749
01:05:11,260 --> 01:05:14,400
Because these got to change some of that R4 to town,

750
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,440
depending on the development of the relationship.

751
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:21,600
So I'll just say 31% town loans and R4,

752
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,560
and it will be 6% R5.

753
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:29,020
Good morning, Mr. Chair.

754
01:05:30,260 --> 01:05:32,780
As long as that's specific enough.

755
01:05:33,060 --> 01:05:34,840
I think you're going to try to do that.

756
01:05:38,540 --> 01:05:57,500
I think that's clear enough for me, and how to edit that for it to take it to council, so long as, you know, I want to make sure the applicant's feel comfortable with that as well, but at least it's do it that it's do over.

757
01:05:59,540 --> 01:06:01,840
All right, so we've already had a motion in a second.

758
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:05,440
and set it to step and the hat for you.

759
01:06:05,740 --> 01:06:07,800
Well, this is the hat for you, because it's just a seven.

760
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,300
So there's no step for you.

761
01:06:10,740 --> 01:06:15,620
Look, all of their say, on high high, any opposed?

762
01:06:16,380 --> 01:06:19,560
OK, that's fast with those described.

763
01:06:20,740 --> 01:06:21,460
All right, thank you.

764
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:21,920
Good luck.

765
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,040
OK, there's a song to your item 11.

766
01:06:29,690 --> 01:06:32,970
1, 2, 1, lock north, 1, the road, the request of A S7,

767
01:06:32,970 --> 01:06:37,370
One chairman of the S3LPE Council, Craig, HFA, and liquidity.

768
01:06:37,950 --> 01:06:42,610
It's starting to probably located in the 42-metre block

769
01:06:42,610 --> 01:06:43,650
worth more of a lake load.

770
01:06:43,830 --> 01:06:47,790
He's just the point 9499 acres being about 7-1,

771
01:06:48,090 --> 01:06:50,210
chairman of town center section 2, as follows.

772
01:06:51,050 --> 01:06:53,330
Playing his own equation of public hearing and zoning change

773
01:06:53,330 --> 01:06:56,390
from C1 District 75 and 82 over the district

774
01:06:56,390 --> 01:06:59,630
to the C2 District 75 and 82 over the district.

775
01:06:59,670 --> 01:07:02,570
Public hearing, site planning, specific use permit,

776
01:07:02,570 --> 01:07:11,430
under section 14-06-09 to allow the media to repair audio work painting in a C2 district 75-182 of the district.

777
01:07:11,770 --> 01:07:12,450
Yes, ma'am.

778
01:07:12,810 --> 01:07:16,310
Hi, my name is Kelsey Crayer. My address is 1775.

779
01:07:16,990 --> 01:07:21,090
About Walton Boulevard, Bentonville, Arkansas, 727-12.

780
01:07:22,750 --> 01:07:26,350
I work for the architecture and engineering firms as part of this project.

781
01:07:26,350 --> 01:07:29,970
and then, um, part of the problem we have, some moment or first.

782
01:07:31,710 --> 01:07:59,590
We're asking for a couple of zoning items on this property. It's just south of a talk of self-development, north of July. We're asking to raise on the property from existing C1, retail business to C2, general commercial, and then along that we're asking for a specific case request, which will help me business operations of lovely, to work there as well.

783
01:08:02,030 --> 01:08:06,650
And you look at the operations of the business if that's helpful.

784
01:08:07,650 --> 01:08:10,590
We got very simple and those are all.

785
01:08:12,090 --> 01:08:13,570
They match our business model.

786
01:08:13,830 --> 01:08:15,790
It's just a file change facility.

787
01:08:16,270 --> 01:08:18,990
So there's no picture of her happening up to say,

788
01:08:19,310 --> 01:08:20,770
no vehicles left overnight.

789
01:08:21,190 --> 01:08:22,290
The model is you can see.

790
01:08:22,970 --> 01:08:24,650
The second one is behind the building.

791
01:08:24,850 --> 01:08:28,090
The car is pulling to the bay where the services are performed.

792
01:08:28,090 --> 01:08:30,610
that takes about 15 minutes or so.

793
01:08:30,850 --> 01:08:33,790
And then of course, I said, don't drive or talk a plan.

794
01:08:33,930 --> 01:08:35,010
I'm really observable.

795
01:08:36,330 --> 01:08:38,870
So no concerns about cars being thrown outside

796
01:08:38,870 --> 01:08:40,610
or outside of the base.

797
01:08:41,750 --> 01:08:43,870
And then can answer any questions about their first?

798
01:08:44,830 --> 01:08:45,190
OK.

799
01:08:46,630 --> 01:08:48,390
So you're not doing body work or painting.

800
01:08:48,570 --> 01:08:48,950
Correct.

801
01:08:49,750 --> 01:08:51,270
Rob is that just in here because of the way

802
01:08:51,270 --> 01:08:51,970
the word is written.

803
01:08:52,110 --> 01:08:52,650
That's correct.

804
01:08:57,020 --> 01:08:58,800
U, B, H, Holmes, location.

805
01:08:59,180 --> 01:09:00,300
But yeah, that's a word.

806
01:09:00,300 --> 01:09:07,960
If we, if we fruit the SUP, could some of the else come by location later and start doing

807
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:14,240
voting or can we exclude that in our, it could be similar to what, what request have been,

808
01:09:14,440 --> 01:09:20,300
it's just meant for the valvoline, the applicant, and if that changes, then they would

809
01:09:20,300 --> 01:09:24,360
need to get a new SUP. That can be a condition. I don't believe that that's in our staff

810
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:29,520
review letter, so if you desire to do that, you need to add that to the motion.

811
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,640
but at the time to be able to get out of it,

812
01:09:32,700 --> 01:09:36,610
it should be the other eye of the circuit.

813
01:09:37,370 --> 01:09:38,790
But it's actually part of the issue.

814
01:09:39,530 --> 01:09:40,330
We're going to want it.

815
01:09:40,750 --> 01:09:45,630
So we don't have the ability to just tear apart

816
01:09:45,630 --> 01:09:47,990
the zoning definitions.

817
01:09:49,430 --> 01:09:52,010
We can't exclude the use that's for her and S&P.

818
01:09:52,950 --> 01:09:54,330
Yeah, you could.

819
01:09:55,190 --> 01:09:58,310
And Valveline's business model is the quick service,

820
01:09:58,870 --> 01:10:00,170
you know, staying in your car.

821
01:10:00,170 --> 01:10:07,530
So that's what they're applying for, if you tie it just to babbling, then...

822
01:10:07,530 --> 01:10:11,530
I think it would use when there's like a spoon in there's a bodywork.

823
01:10:12,190 --> 01:10:14,490
Yeah, I wish I could believe that's fine.

824
01:10:16,170 --> 01:10:17,070
Let's carry on.

825
01:10:17,250 --> 01:10:18,970
I have an issue with that, you know?

826
01:10:20,330 --> 01:10:21,170
I have y'all been tired.

827
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:29,140
What's this included?

828
01:10:29,940 --> 01:10:32,040
I've got a James Wichord 100.

829
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,280
About the way, what's in the Kentucky?

830
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:37,900
All we do is all changes.

831
01:10:38,260 --> 01:10:39,080
We need any annual changes.

832
01:10:39,860 --> 01:10:42,800
We do rotate tires, take them off, and then back on in instances

833
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,500
when it's necessary, but that's all done within the 15 minutes

834
01:10:45,500 --> 01:10:45,940
service.

835
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,620
The other thing is we also do transmission flush

836
01:10:48,620 --> 01:10:51,380
is not filtered changes, so we don't take off the panis just

837
01:10:51,380 --> 01:10:53,400
the flush, that's all done in the 15 minutes.

838
01:10:53,500 --> 01:10:56,820
You can be surprised how fast our employees do work within the

839
01:10:56,820 --> 01:10:59,280
Bay Area and Service, it's all part of our DNA

840
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:00,860
for erasing history and everything.

841
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,520
So we don't do any paint on a body or none of that other stuff

842
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:07,720
it's not our DNA or function or what we do as a company.

843
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:08,880
So everything's done.

844
01:11:09,420 --> 01:11:11,740
At the bay, it's at the bay, no vehicles you left overnight,

845
01:11:12,700 --> 01:11:13,400
and things will get it.

846
01:11:13,480 --> 01:11:14,620
Get out, off they go.

847
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:18,560
All right.

848
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:19,520
Thanks.

849
01:11:19,860 --> 01:11:20,160
Thank you.

850
01:11:20,700 --> 01:11:22,680
What was there anyone from the audience to address this item?

851
01:11:24,620 --> 01:11:28,480
Hey, not, then your motion.

852
01:11:31,810 --> 01:11:34,050
I want them to prove something to the staff that you learned.

853
01:11:34,050 --> 01:11:37,630
I don't want to be tied to this, I don't want it.

854
01:11:37,770 --> 01:11:38,590
That in your restrictions.

855
01:11:40,250 --> 01:11:42,170
And it's a good point tied to the,

856
01:11:42,350 --> 01:11:45,510
we have to press you.

857
01:11:45,530 --> 01:11:46,470
I need you still to say it.

858
01:11:47,790 --> 01:11:53,270
OK, so all of their say I have any of those to get as fast as they can.

859
01:11:54,070 --> 01:11:56,410
OK, I don't have 12, 710, less birch street.

860
01:11:56,590 --> 01:11:58,390
The rest of the minute, Nathaniel Rodriguez,

861
01:11:58,650 --> 01:11:59,450
and he'll be like you're serving.

862
01:11:59,670 --> 01:12:02,350
It's already the property looking at 710, less birch.

863
01:12:02,570 --> 01:12:04,850
And it's just thing of 1.093 acres.

864
01:12:04,850 --> 01:12:06,670
to be in a part of the JB Meckinger survey.

865
01:12:06,690 --> 01:12:09,730
I have a check number 7663 being all of the locks.

866
01:12:09,890 --> 01:12:11,270
One, two, three, four, and five.

867
01:12:11,550 --> 01:12:12,790
Block two, a purchase addition.

868
01:12:12,990 --> 01:12:14,210
And currently, it's owned art alone

869
01:12:14,210 --> 01:12:15,810
from the smallest report of adjustments.

870
01:12:16,770 --> 01:12:21,230
Block three, art consisting of 0.785 acres being a part

871
01:12:21,230 --> 01:12:22,910
of the JB Meckinger survey.

872
01:12:23,150 --> 01:12:25,630
I have a check number 7663 being all of the locks.

873
01:12:26,050 --> 01:12:28,290
Three, four, and five had a part of Block two,

874
01:12:28,410 --> 01:12:29,770
a purchase addition to public hearing.

875
01:12:29,770 --> 01:12:34,410
And variance, intersection 14, 0, 2, 0, 5 to allow a 1.4

876
01:12:34,410 --> 01:12:38,670
but side setback move the required 10 foot for an existing cart work.

877
01:12:39,170 --> 01:12:43,530
A lot three are consisting of 0.7, 85 acres being a part of the JV

878
01:12:43,530 --> 01:12:48,770
mechanism or survey at Stacked number 7, 6, 3 being all of lots 3 and 4 and 5.

879
01:12:48,990 --> 01:12:50,090
And a part of a lot two approaches.

880
01:12:50,290 --> 01:12:56,810
The addition of public hearing and variance under section 140 to 0.5 to allow 5 yard or 5 foot

881
01:12:56,810 --> 01:13:00,910
side setback move the required 10 foot for an accessory dwelling.

882
01:13:00,910 --> 01:13:04,250
And the complaining is on a flat of Rodriguez edition.

883
01:13:04,730 --> 01:13:05,170
Yes, sir.

884
01:13:05,310 --> 01:13:07,790
Yeah, good evening, David Bacca, 100 rolls of Travis.

885
01:13:08,230 --> 01:13:09,590
I'm here representing the owners.

886
01:13:10,830 --> 01:13:12,930
So we've got a couple of things coming up before you.

887
01:13:13,050 --> 01:13:16,550
There's the the platform, but before we can get the platter proof,

888
01:13:16,690 --> 01:13:18,930
we've got to go through and take care of some variances.

889
01:13:19,590 --> 01:13:22,050
One of the variances is noted as the car port.

890
01:13:22,150 --> 01:13:24,830
That's an existing car port that was there when they bought the property.

891
01:13:25,050 --> 01:13:26,510
It's probably been there in two decades.

892
01:13:27,630 --> 01:13:29,790
But just to clean that up, we want to get that approved.

893
01:13:29,790 --> 01:13:40,970
And then the second one is, because the accessory dwelling is 680 square feet as opposed to 500 is the max where we can put it 5 feet off the property line.

894
01:13:41,550 --> 01:13:50,930
This one is 680, we were asked if we could redesign it. Also, we're wanting to, you'll see, we've got another two mature trees that we're working around.

895
01:13:51,450 --> 01:13:57,270
So we were asked if we could redesign it to make it fit differently in that space, but this is an existing house.

896
01:13:57,270 --> 01:14:05,370
It's a historical home from the Kennedy that's being moved to the Sherman area, and so that we put a picture of it up there.

897
01:14:06,170 --> 01:14:12,070
And it's going to be repainted to actually blend in with the existing house next door.

898
01:14:13,570 --> 01:14:19,970
So that's the reason for the five foot sit back variants, because of those trees they don't want to cut those down,

899
01:14:20,570 --> 01:14:25,870
because they're nice mature trees, they shade the pool area and they'll shade the house so if at all

900
01:14:25,870 --> 01:14:27,830
a hospital we'd like to keep those

901
01:14:32,660 --> 01:14:35,500
process works, so this is how I'm going to restore the home.

902
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:37,180
We'll give you the date.

903
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,160
I don't know if you can come out and watch it.

904
01:14:40,820 --> 01:14:41,980
I don't know why it is the dwelling.

905
01:14:43,340 --> 01:14:49,180
So it's this portion is 15 feet wide or actually about 14 and a half.

906
01:14:49,440 --> 01:14:53,740
There's a small bell at the back and the total width is 22 at the back.

907
01:14:53,740 --> 01:14:55,740
It'll be sectioning it to move it.

908
01:14:56,420 --> 01:14:57,680
It's coming in one more piece.

909
01:15:08,050 --> 01:15:11,010
When I'm looking at this picture, I'm saying, help me.

910
01:15:11,110 --> 01:15:12,070
It's reused to stay here.

911
01:15:13,950 --> 01:15:17,730
Where? Okay, so from there, can we go back to the site plan?

912
01:15:18,170 --> 01:15:20,490
We're just standing on the site plan and you take that picture.

913
01:15:21,870 --> 01:15:29,070
I'm standing when I took the picture, you see the property line on the far left, going all the way up to

914
01:15:29,070 --> 01:15:32,870
Byrge, I'm standing about right at that property line in the street.

915
01:15:33,250 --> 01:15:33,550
On the street.

916
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:40,600
So there's that you will see those other docs up there, those are the other trees that you see at the front of that picture.

917
01:16:53,220 --> 01:16:56,320
we change though, is there a reason you can fill in that?

918
01:16:56,740 --> 01:16:58,860
Yes, because they just got to reason to art 12.

919
01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:00,980
And art 12 has, I've got to know from it.

920
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:03,120
So yeah, we don't see a lot of art on it.

921
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,280
But this has just got to prove those are the new,

922
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,100
it's only district regulations for this law.

923
01:17:10,060 --> 01:17:15,540
I've got all four people here, but.

924
01:17:16,340 --> 01:17:18,600
It's typically approved these when it's already there,

925
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,400
but this isn't really there.

926
01:17:20,940 --> 01:17:23,420
Is this attempt just to save these trees?

927
01:17:24,540 --> 01:17:27,260
Does that really depend on trying to save trees?

928
01:17:28,380 --> 01:17:39,800
Yeah, the two issues here are, and like Mr. Baka said, we met with him in previous to this meeting to try and figure out what's the best way to forward on this.

929
01:17:40,020 --> 01:17:45,480
Two issues are them saving trees and not cutting down trees. That's very important to the city right now.

930
01:17:46,300 --> 01:17:49,820
That's important. The other thing is because they were bringing a historical home.

931
01:17:49,820 --> 01:17:56,700
We did ask David if it could be redesigned and the answer was, well, the design's already done and things, the building exists.

932
01:17:58,100 --> 01:18:02,820
So, what those two factors, that's where, that's the reason why staff came out of this,

933
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:04,960
uh, recommending to agree.

934
01:18:06,500 --> 01:18:08,980
I mean, I just see the building that, yeah.

935
01:18:10,500 --> 01:18:14,620
We can take out the North mature tree, but get that thing all the way to set back,

936
01:18:14,620 --> 01:18:16,560
It's losing one tree.

937
01:18:16,660 --> 01:18:20,660
Look, on the trees, there's a lot of other trees that are staying here.

938
01:18:21,500 --> 01:18:23,060
So would it just be one tree lonely?

939
01:18:23,300 --> 01:18:25,800
Those are the biggest trees on that side of the lot.

940
01:18:26,340 --> 01:18:29,480
The other thing is that that site is very well manicured

941
01:18:29,480 --> 01:18:30,460
well landscape.

942
01:18:31,440 --> 01:18:34,620
And so I have that same thought.

943
01:18:35,300 --> 01:18:37,400
But there's a pool right in the middle.

944
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:39,420
And all of that is heavily landscape.

945
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,980
Like nice landscaping, not just grown over bush.

946
01:18:45,140 --> 01:18:49,520
it's it's it's it's it's well-mannered here and they still own if you look at the

947
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:57,100
flat they actually go and one R and two that's correct so

948
01:19:01,130 --> 01:19:02,430
yeah there'd be

949
01:19:02,430 --> 01:19:09,190
able to move that house into it from the side as least it does point that we do

950
01:19:09,190 --> 01:19:14,150
That last time, when we clap for staff, review a week.

951
01:19:16,290 --> 01:19:20,050
And there was no way to move the R to R 3 R line.

952
01:19:20,670 --> 01:19:21,770
Is that exactly considered?

953
01:19:21,770 --> 01:19:25,990
Not without conflict or making more variances for the lots.

954
01:19:26,530 --> 01:19:27,050
For those lots.

955
01:19:27,870 --> 01:19:29,910
We tried to figure everything out.

956
01:19:31,630 --> 01:19:36,210
I wish you some more proposals like this to take large lots that are beautiful in the

957
01:19:36,210 --> 01:19:38,730
store and we're only adding to the character values.

958
01:19:38,730 --> 01:19:41,370
I'm going to put five feet as much as I can.

959
01:19:44,740 --> 01:19:48,440
I'm going to put five feet as much as I can.

960
01:19:48,440 --> 01:19:50,800
All right, I'm going to hear a question from Board of Adjustment.

961
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:51,720
Move to approve.

962
01:19:52,340 --> 01:19:53,600
All fairs out.

963
01:19:54,540 --> 01:19:54,640
All right.

964
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:55,000
On the post.

965
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:56,060
All right.

966
01:19:56,140 --> 01:19:57,680
This is the motion from the plane zone.

967
01:19:58,140 --> 01:19:58,320
Yes.

968
01:19:58,420 --> 01:20:00,080
We have to approve subject to this tab.

969
01:20:00,460 --> 01:20:00,680
Pretty good.

970
01:20:02,020 --> 01:20:02,320
Second.

971
01:20:02,820 --> 01:20:03,480
All fairs out.

972
01:20:04,860 --> 01:20:05,420
All right.

973
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:06,480
All right.

974
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:06,920
It's fast.

975
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:08,500
And we have to start.

976
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:09,380
Okay.

977
01:20:09,380 --> 01:20:15,520
Okay, I'm 13, 20.25, take some of our earthquakes across the bottom of our data prior to sort of which I think it's surveyed, it's sort of the problem.

978
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:18,420
You're working in that photographic factor.

979
01:20:18,580 --> 01:20:23,620
Some of our earthquakes, this is the at 9.995 acres being walked one and blocked one.

980
01:20:23,740 --> 01:20:24,500
It's just a good addition.

981
01:20:24,700 --> 01:20:25,740
It's called the support adjustment.

982
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:30,800
Public viewing variance intersection, 14.02, 017, 2.1.

983
01:20:31,260 --> 01:20:36,240
But side set back and load of our 15V for an existing structure.

984
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:42,680
public hearing invariance under section 14.02, 017 to 0.02.03,

985
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,440
clear set back and go to the required 25.

986
01:20:45,900 --> 01:20:48,960
For the existing structure, the planning is on in public hearing.

987
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:54,440
And site plan specific to experiment at the approval under section 14.06,

988
01:20:54,440 --> 01:20:59,420
above 9, to allow an automobile motorcycle boat or trainer sails,

989
01:20:59,820 --> 01:21:04,880
do or use the C2 district 75A to overlay district public hearing and

990
01:21:06,220 --> 01:21:07,680
public hearing and hearing,

991
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:09,700
site planning and specific experiment

992
01:21:09,700 --> 01:21:11,380
through will intersection 14 to us,

993
01:21:11,480 --> 01:21:12,420
1099.

994
01:21:12,780 --> 01:21:15,040
So that will be a laundry car wash

995
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:16,660
in a C2 district,

996
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:18,360
75 and A2 over the district.

997
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:20,920
And public hearing and hearing,

998
01:21:21,340 --> 01:21:22,460
site planning and specific

999
01:21:22,460 --> 01:21:23,380
experiment, approval,

1000
01:21:23,540 --> 01:21:24,940
intersection 14 to 609.

1001
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:27,260
So that will be able to pay

1002
01:21:27,260 --> 01:21:28,280
a quality work

1003
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,260
or painting in a C2 district, 75 and A2

1004
01:21:31,260 --> 01:21:32,100
over the district.

1005
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:33,320
Yes, sir?

1006
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:37,500
Love a day of pride with about over 26 to channel real-time.

1007
01:21:40,070 --> 01:21:42,570
We're screen-to-18 emailing, and letting them go.

1008
01:21:42,890 --> 01:21:43,270
Can't take this.

1009
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,580
I'd say I thought I guess we've been selling a course for 50 years.

1010
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:50,940
I mean, I don't know.

1011
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:52,660
Now, you know, I'm going to be able to get a slide.

1012
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:53,760
That's not that.

1013
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:57,120
It's nice to clear this up.

1014
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:01,140
So there's a lot of stuff that's already in existence that has been for a long time.

1015
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,860
It looks like A and B is both for existing structures.

1016
01:22:03,860 --> 01:22:09,500
C is obviously been taking place for a long time and I guess E as well.

1017
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:15,900
So really the only new thing here is we're trying to be everything up to spec and you're adding our wash that current.

1018
01:22:17,300 --> 01:22:17,740
Okay.

1019
01:22:17,740 --> 01:22:19,920
Should you guys not have car washers here before?

1020
01:22:20,260 --> 01:22:20,880
Yes, we do.

1021
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,300
We have one on the back of the key of building at the bottom.

1022
01:22:23,500 --> 01:22:25,760
But we're going to add, we're going to be coming back.

1023
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,700
We're going to have 10, 12 days on the back of that building.

1024
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:29,760
20 workspace.

1025
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:36,420
So we're going to move through the dual tunnel car wash, if like an expansion of the car wash.

1026
01:22:44,420 --> 01:22:59,120
So, because of that expansion, they required to get an SUP, we actually said, since you didn't have an SUP for the other stuff, which is because they're probably existing on conforming, let's just get an SUP for the whole property cover everything else so you can move forward.

1027
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:05,840
We also did not nitpick and look at every little detail of of the existing operation

1028
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:13,120
Science and things like that because this isn't something that they had to do we requested them to do it and they're willing to do so

1029
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:19,600
So we didn't want to be overly burning some on them because all they really needed to do was get the SUP for the car wash

1030
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:34,060
That's just the definition we have in the Zoning Hornets for Carlosh.

1031
01:23:34,540 --> 01:23:35,020
Interesting.

1032
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,560
Yes, it's just stuck for a lot of decades.

1033
01:23:40,060 --> 01:23:40,980
Very big machine.

1034
01:23:42,480 --> 01:23:43,320
All right.

1035
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:43,600
All right.

1036
01:23:43,700 --> 01:23:46,180
Let's see if you guys have a staff to be let it.

1037
01:23:49,940 --> 01:23:52,000
They call it a new masonry trash enclosure.

1038
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,940
Let's be 30 feet long by 10 feet deep.

1039
01:23:58,090 --> 01:23:58,610
I'm going to sleep.

1040
01:23:59,190 --> 01:23:59,930
I don't know.

1041
01:23:59,930 --> 01:24:00,250
Is that on exactly?

1042
01:24:01,250 --> 01:24:01,730
Anywhere?

1043
01:24:02,350 --> 01:24:07,570
track the trash, the trash, the trash dumps, the dirt is in the middle of the parking line.

1044
01:24:08,030 --> 01:24:09,270
You can't see it from anywhere.

1045
01:24:09,950 --> 01:24:12,470
Well, it's not going to be moved when we're doing the other two.

1046
01:24:12,750 --> 01:24:13,370
Oh, isn't it?

1047
01:24:14,370 --> 01:24:14,770
Yeah.

1048
01:24:14,830 --> 01:24:17,510
We're going to drive now, trying to get into that power line.

1049
01:24:17,850 --> 01:24:18,790
We're going to move now.

1050
01:24:20,390 --> 01:24:22,450
Try to kind of follow up your strategy and see it.

1051
01:24:22,530 --> 01:24:24,470
So if we move it to the east, it's behind the building.

1052
01:24:24,730 --> 01:24:25,410
You can't even see it.

1053
01:24:25,410 --> 01:24:28,610
Yeah, you still want to have an easy road regardless for our purposes.

1054
01:24:28,850 --> 01:24:31,270
It doesn't necessarily need to be on the top of the cycle.

1055
01:24:31,270 --> 01:24:35,230
and does it, it just needs to comply with the staff and do you look?

1056
01:24:35,530 --> 01:24:36,490
Right, that's my issue.

1057
01:24:37,110 --> 01:24:40,210
Yes, it's like a new agency address.

1058
01:24:40,970 --> 01:24:42,610
Is that even part of the plan?

1059
01:24:43,350 --> 01:24:49,870
And that was part of the solid waste review of this application,

1060
01:24:50,250 --> 01:24:51,730
to make sure that it was that.

1061
01:24:52,210 --> 01:24:53,130
That was their comment.

1062
01:24:54,210 --> 01:24:55,210
Yeah, this says the name.

1063
01:24:55,790 --> 01:24:57,050
So the existing is fine.

1064
01:24:57,470 --> 01:24:58,630
The name must be applied.

1065
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:04,320
All

1066
01:25:08,610 --> 01:25:09,050
right.

1067
01:25:09,170 --> 01:25:11,210
Is there anyone from the audience who dressed this item?

1068
01:25:13,510 --> 01:25:15,790
We have not any questions from the board.

1069
01:25:18,550 --> 01:25:18,810
Okay.

1070
01:25:18,890 --> 01:25:20,330
Any motion from board of adjustments?

1071
01:25:21,110 --> 01:25:24,210
We need to get that.

1072
01:25:24,970 --> 01:25:25,750
We need to get that.

1073
01:25:25,870 --> 01:25:26,410
It's only the second.

1074
01:25:26,630 --> 01:25:27,590
All the fairs say aye.

1075
01:25:28,550 --> 01:25:29,010
I suppose.

1076
01:25:29,930 --> 01:25:30,370
Okay.

1077
01:25:30,490 --> 01:25:31,950
Is there a motion for planning something?

1078
01:25:36,580 --> 01:25:37,320
Submit to stop.

1079
01:25:38,620 --> 01:25:39,220
All right.

1080
01:25:39,540 --> 01:25:40,560
All fairs say aye.

1081
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:41,960
on your post.

1082
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:43,260
Okay, it's past.

1083
01:25:43,540 --> 01:25:44,000
Thank you.

1084
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,780
Okay, at 14, 5114, probably Avenue.

1085
01:25:47,980 --> 01:25:49,540
The request of Shannon and Kerry, Amy,

1086
01:25:49,700 --> 01:25:51,460
publicly landscaping, it's sorry,

1087
01:25:51,500 --> 01:25:53,820
the property located at 5114, probably Avenue.

1088
01:25:54,580 --> 01:25:57,560
Just the appoint two, three, five acres being a part of the GT

1089
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,360
back in her survey, abstract number 7, 6, 3.

1090
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:01,860
And being a part of law, one block two,

1091
01:26:01,980 --> 01:26:03,200
westward, desert, desert, desert, and current,

1092
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:06,220
these old R6 district is follows for one of the

1093
01:26:06,220 --> 01:26:15,500
Well, look here in the variance, under section 140206 to a 9.7 foot side set back on the south side property line,

1094
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:18,180
move the required 15 feet for a existing structure.

1095
01:26:19,380 --> 01:26:28,000
Then, public hearing variance under section 140206 to allow five foot set back on the north side property line,

1096
01:26:28,060 --> 01:26:35,900
and move the required six feet for the existing structure and public hearing variance under section 140206 to allow five foot set back

1097
01:26:35,900 --> 01:26:40,240
on the north side, property line, and literally required six vote for a new addition.

1098
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:41,940
Yes, sir.

1099
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,520
Chan, by the way, I will one more colleague and I'm in Texas.

1100
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:47,940
So this is our private residence.

1101
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:53,980
And the shown here is the existing home.

1102
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:57,280
And then in red is proposing as a new addition.

1103
01:26:58,020 --> 01:27:02,820
So as far as the north side of the property, the existing structure is what it is.

1104
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:03,700
It's 150.

1105
01:27:03,700 --> 01:27:08,660
in the 1950s. So that five foot set back, we did it by ownership.

1106
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:15,800
And so what we're proposing, we're asking permission to do with respect to that is that

1107
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:22,600
the existing structure that we're, that's kind of inside the line, behind what I'll call

1108
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:33,340
the house proper is currently in 11 by 20 feet foot space that my best guess is it was a

1109
01:27:33,340 --> 01:27:35,520
filled in and closed,

1110
01:27:37,700 --> 01:27:40,240
but there's just a lot of things wrong with it, and make it

1111
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:46,600
unhappable really for just looking to this. So our proposal is to tear that structure down,

1112
01:27:46,820 --> 01:27:51,500
because it's significantly lower than the existing roof line. I think one of the pictures

1113
01:27:51,500 --> 01:28:01,400
is I can actually, I'm a six inch tall, I can actually test the ceiling. So it was a, it was

1114
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,260
and have them water flow out under some gaps in the water.

1115
01:28:04,740 --> 01:28:07,340
It's just, it's just not, it's never intended to be a living space.

1116
01:28:07,580 --> 01:28:12,120
And what we'd like to do is turn that into a combination of family room,

1117
01:28:12,900 --> 01:28:17,020
to expand it, to widen perhaps that living on 20 free space.

1118
01:28:17,220 --> 01:28:21,540
But then also along the north side of the property to match through existing,

1119
01:28:21,540 --> 01:28:26,540
or close to match the existing north wall of the house,

1120
01:28:26,540 --> 01:28:33,640
that five could sit back and extend it back to that 23 foot space and create an ensuite closet

1121
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:40,240
and ensuite bathroom and then a utility room that's off of that bathroom on the North

1122
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:40,520
side.

1123
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:46,300
And then the south side is currently just an uncovered portrait area and what we'd like to

1124
01:28:46,300 --> 01:28:54,580
do is to extend that roof line out to that insect corner and just make that part of the

1125
01:28:54,580 --> 01:29:00,740
we would cover kitchen, cover patio space, and so we would put a new foundation, you know,

1126
01:29:00,860 --> 01:29:06,420
new concrete on all that, and so we would just basically create some on-sweet rooms and

1127
01:29:06,420 --> 01:29:12,500
I had a bonus frame around for that structure, so we could even improve. I mean, make that space

1128
01:29:12,500 --> 01:29:17,500
a little right now. We have stored it and we keep those there and we walk through it to the back

1129
01:29:17,500 --> 01:29:22,820
and it was also a build structure that it's another mind-level and it's seeing it's appropriate.

1130
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,120
Anyway, so that's what we'd like to do.

1131
01:29:26,900 --> 01:29:32,420
I may have written the initial application, consider it on the South side.

1132
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:38,300
I'm not proposing that we go all the way to this 9.7 foot line.

1133
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:39,900
That's a different group of pitch.

1134
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:44,700
Just coming out to this corner, this insect corner, which I think.

1135
01:29:44,700 --> 01:29:51,200
I'm a math is about 20 feet and set 20 in addition in excess in the 15th of

1136
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:51,480
variance.

1137
01:29:52,420 --> 01:29:54,880
But hey man, that's kind of what we're supposed to say.

1138
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:58,500
If you're talking about the session in where it's labeled as this space, it will become

1139
01:29:58,500 --> 01:29:59,300
a cover patio.

1140
01:29:59,700 --> 01:29:59,880
Yes.

1141
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,780
So it'll actually be just smaller than what you're suggesting, what is the deadline.

1142
01:30:09,790 --> 01:30:15,170
Now, what I'm proposing is right now, that's just an uncovered patty, that's just a patty, just a patty of a slide.

1143
01:30:15,990 --> 01:30:28,530
And so, because the roof hitches this way, I'm asking that we'd be allowed to just continue that roof pitch on back to that 23-foot spot.

1144
01:30:28,530 --> 01:30:36,890
And then there's an insect corner there that's part of the bedroom, window, and what we're

1145
01:30:36,890 --> 01:30:43,750
asking that red line should really match up with that insect corner that's just right

1146
01:30:43,750 --> 01:30:44,970
even with the current.

1147
01:30:45,850 --> 01:30:48,510
Is it different than what's being shown on the screen?

1148
01:30:48,850 --> 01:30:49,470
No, no, no, no.

1149
01:30:50,050 --> 01:30:50,710
Not though.

1150
01:30:50,830 --> 01:30:58,710
I may not be making myself clear, but right now, so all we're doing is we're opposing as far as

1151
01:30:58,710 --> 01:31:05,090
reflon, the framing is to just tie in and mass the existing framing that goes from that

1152
01:31:05,090 --> 01:31:07,390
north point to just that self-remon,

1153
01:31:09,710 --> 01:31:11,210
so that's just basically the normal mass.

1154
01:31:11,290 --> 01:31:15,110
So there's a picture that in the package there's a picture that shows how much lower

1155
01:31:15,110 --> 01:31:20,430
that breezeway space is in the roof on the breezeway space is from the from the actual

1156
01:31:21,290 --> 01:31:24,650
framing height of the hat is just very, very low.

1157
01:31:25,130 --> 01:31:29,430
And just I want to make sure that we're clear, the framing of the vertical wall is what

1158
01:31:29,430 --> 01:31:33,050
the setback's measure of two, not the overhang of the roof.

1159
01:31:34,290 --> 01:31:39,650
If that helps, there's typically a two or three foot walk.

1160
01:31:39,830 --> 01:31:48,190
I'm sorry, the wall that would enclose the new family roof space would be well within that

1161
01:31:48,190 --> 01:31:48,730
red line.

1162
01:31:49,530 --> 01:31:57,950
I'm just that's the roof line and so probably probably there would be the new wall

1163
01:32:00,550 --> 01:32:06,870
approximately 9 feet north of that red line, which is beyond the 15-foot minimum setback.

1164
01:32:07,270 --> 01:32:07,370
Yes.

1165
01:32:07,770 --> 01:32:13,870
As I've been kind of added to that from the platform, even the red line is 20 feet from

1166
01:32:13,870 --> 01:32:15,250
the 20 feet setback.

1167
01:32:15,730 --> 01:32:22,010
Because you have the 9.7 here, and then the 11.5 is the width of the length of that

1168
01:32:22,010 --> 01:32:29,010
So that's 20 feet something that's just that red line, the new wall would be even further north of that.

1169
01:32:30,270 --> 01:32:31,710
Yeah. I'm sorry, I didn't expect that.

1170
01:32:31,710 --> 01:32:34,070
I don't come to get any of that.

1171
01:32:34,390 --> 01:32:34,650
You know what?

1172
01:32:35,650 --> 01:32:36,130
Yeah.

1173
01:32:36,530 --> 01:32:37,830
So that's what it is for.

1174
01:32:38,110 --> 01:32:40,610
But inside the house, you're saying the south.

1175
01:32:42,030 --> 01:32:42,230
Yeah.

1176
01:32:42,810 --> 01:32:44,490
Currently, that's just yard.

1177
01:32:45,550 --> 01:32:47,270
Because that is not what it would be.

1178
01:32:47,670 --> 01:32:48,990
The south side,

1179
01:32:51,990 --> 01:32:51,990
yeah.

1180
01:32:51,990 --> 01:32:59,510
It just makes sense to me aesthetically that the roof line, we're going to max that roof line, going back this way,

1181
01:33:00,170 --> 01:33:03,430
that roof line is symmetrical.

1182
01:33:04,350 --> 01:33:08,390
We could make that room on gas, but we wanted to make it coming out of the roof.

1183
01:33:08,950 --> 01:33:10,010
Indoor Apple family room.

1184
01:33:10,390 --> 01:33:12,090
We can enjoy that space.

1185
01:33:12,430 --> 01:33:14,490
And the north space right now is just yard.

1186
01:33:15,550 --> 01:33:18,310
There's no tree only new interior square footage.

1187
01:33:18,630 --> 01:33:19,670
There's that more side.

1188
01:33:19,670 --> 01:33:21,390
That is correct.

1189
01:33:22,630 --> 01:33:28,170
And in many of what we might in it doing, just for, again, architectural studies, is that

1190
01:33:28,170 --> 01:33:32,470
current, south wall, long-skinned part, we might move that, I feel like just to make

1191
01:33:32,470 --> 01:33:36,790
that move more, right down that room is a lot of not going to vary, it seems a little narrow.

1192
01:33:37,390 --> 01:33:41,670
We might not move that south wall, just a little, just a little bit, just to make that

1193
01:33:41,670 --> 01:33:50,370
a little bit of a injury, but essentially now that's the 20 and a little bit

1194
01:33:54,630 --> 01:33:54,710
of a

1195
01:33:54,710 --> 01:33:59,390
I didn't really understand that part, but it would not change the red line out, that

1196
01:34:00,110 --> 01:34:00,970
out of her.

1197
01:34:01,310 --> 01:34:02,230
I think it would not.

1198
01:34:02,230 --> 01:34:02,850
No, it would not.

1199
01:34:02,850 --> 01:34:07,210
That would not be just an interior of all decision, and will either the paddy would

1200
01:34:07,210 --> 01:34:13,590
be the right figure, not figure, but it would not extend the roof line, the roof line,

1201
01:34:13,590 --> 01:34:18,310
On either side would not extend, we would just go to those points.

1202
01:34:19,870 --> 01:34:25,410
So we'd be adding that the new little space is just the north side block.

1203
01:34:25,830 --> 01:34:27,910
It will be approximately 9 out 23.

1204
01:34:29,150 --> 01:34:34,750
If we were allowed to match it to the existing five-foot wall in the original house.

1205
01:34:35,610 --> 01:34:40,450
So on the end of that kind of thin space on the west east side,

1206
01:34:40,450 --> 01:34:45,810
I'm saying that's 11, by 11's base for me.

1207
01:34:46,250 --> 01:34:46,330
Yes.

1208
01:34:46,850 --> 01:34:48,530
It's a different kind of structure.

1209
01:34:48,690 --> 01:34:49,930
It has a higher roof line.

1210
01:34:50,130 --> 01:34:50,730
It's like that.

1211
01:34:50,730 --> 01:34:52,070
It would be hard for you.

1212
01:34:53,450 --> 01:34:57,450
It would not be demoed only to the extent that we need to tie it into,

1213
01:34:58,250 --> 01:34:59,550
Yeah, the utility range change.

1214
01:35:00,110 --> 01:35:01,690
That's kind of remain intact.

1215
01:35:01,890 --> 01:35:02,870
That's in the 11, 11.

1216
01:35:03,370 --> 01:35:04,890
With that foot ceilings.

1217
01:35:05,150 --> 01:35:06,550
That's in the normal room.

1218
01:35:08,010 --> 01:35:09,550
Our plan is to leave that there.

1219
01:35:09,550 --> 01:35:12,370
And then the only, I guess, the only change would be

1220
01:35:12,370 --> 01:35:16,570
is how we then just seal that off and do the new rewind.

1221
01:35:17,390 --> 01:35:18,870
But where you're saying with this family room

1222
01:35:18,870 --> 01:35:22,910
is the current existing structure will we get loaded,

1223
01:35:22,910 --> 01:35:23,750
and that's fine.

1224
01:35:24,170 --> 01:35:27,350
Yes, yes, because it has the half-configure build.

1225
01:35:27,490 --> 01:35:28,410
It's bigger for us.

1226
01:35:28,410 --> 01:35:30,450
Yeah, it's just, it's really, really love.

1227
01:35:30,910 --> 01:35:35,490
And so we would just basically make it an eight foot,

1228
01:35:35,630 --> 01:35:37,710
nine foot sealer, a vaulted sealing in that space,

1229
01:35:37,710 --> 01:35:40,150
right now, it's about seven and half of us here.

1230
01:35:40,510 --> 01:35:43,030
But do you think the house originally was the house

1231
01:35:43,030 --> 01:35:44,470
and then the utility room?

1232
01:35:44,810 --> 01:35:46,430
And then somebody closed in between the two?

1233
01:35:46,490 --> 01:35:47,270
I believe so.

1234
01:35:47,330 --> 01:35:48,650
That's my best guess.

1235
01:35:49,530 --> 01:35:50,770
It just looks like that.

1236
01:35:50,850 --> 01:35:53,490
And we had contractors look at those brick edges

1237
01:35:53,490 --> 01:35:57,230
from the original house and then the breezeway and brick wall.

1238
01:35:57,730 --> 01:35:59,390
And that's how we had them spliced in.

1239
01:35:59,710 --> 01:36:01,890
So that's not part of that skinny part.

1240
01:36:02,050 --> 01:36:05,050
It's not part of the original house proper.

1241
01:36:07,150 --> 01:36:18,870
And from the neighbor who's parents lived in the house before she did, they just built that to keep and bring dogs and where we're else it was very much a utilitarian space.

1242
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:24,240
All right.

1243
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:25,720
Thank you.

1244
01:36:26,140 --> 01:36:27,860
Did anyone with the audience take their son?

1245
01:36:39,440 --> 01:36:40,720
This is my friend, Shannon, maybe.

1246
01:36:41,700 --> 01:36:45,860
But in the fact that the final flat is the right flat.

1247
01:36:46,260 --> 01:36:47,280
So what do we do?

1248
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:47,280
I

1249
01:36:55,380 --> 01:36:59,740
just have some questions like, isn't this a flat in every room?

1250
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:00,260
I don't understand.

1251
01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:02,720
Flatting.

1252
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:03,340
In this room.

1253
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:04,560
Like, I'd love some.

1254
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:05,220
That's like the issue.

1255
01:37:05,440 --> 01:37:06,740
You've made these lots more divided.

1256
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:08,340
We had it.

1257
01:37:08,340 --> 01:37:10,120
We were asked to read flat thing.

1258
01:37:10,780 --> 01:37:11,280
I did.

1259
01:37:11,480 --> 01:37:12,200
I read flat.

1260
01:37:12,820 --> 01:37:14,480
I mean, these changes in the addition to this thing.

1261
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:16,620
Which, if that's all, the Greeks are returning.

1262
01:37:16,780 --> 01:37:18,380
But it's already a flat in.

1263
01:37:18,820 --> 01:37:20,160
But it's been so divided.

1264
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:24,140
The original lots been some divided in the different sizes.

1265
01:37:24,140 --> 01:37:29,140
The re-plad is going to re-plad, this is a, we're actually going to do a new plad.

1266
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:37,520
Yeah, we require a unique name.

1267
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:43,800
No, no, these neighbors already have, doesn't this neighbors have the name?

1268
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:46,220
Or is that kind of a fork in terms of names?

1269
01:37:48,580 --> 01:37:48,940
If.

1270
01:37:49,100 --> 01:37:49,320
For black.

1271
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:52,860
Your great, great grant coverage.

1272
01:37:54,020 --> 01:37:54,380
Yeah, great.

1273
01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:58,660
Yeah, because it's our reflecting tax roll with this

1274
01:37:58,660 --> 01:37:59,800
Westward, the Westward.

1275
01:38:02,220 --> 01:38:04,040
It has, I just want to be kind of technical here.

1276
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:05,320
It has names.

1277
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:07,380
This is only a fun or a black.

1278
01:38:07,380 --> 01:38:11,300
What should be a replat of whatever the other subdivision was.

1279
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:14,340
So I would assume, in this flat, we should

1280
01:38:14,340 --> 01:38:19,180
grab that corner clip that's kind of showing it to me easily. So I don't know what to do

1281
01:38:19,180 --> 01:38:20,840
it, but.

1282
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:23,140
Get this, this is a preliminary plan.

1283
01:38:28,660 --> 01:38:30,640
This is not the final plan.

1284
01:38:32,990 --> 01:38:35,850
Yeah, I would, I would recommend that this point table in that.

1285
01:38:36,430 --> 01:38:38,230
Or push it so that we can get it right.

1286
01:38:38,290 --> 01:38:38,830
I'm sorry.

1287
01:38:39,010 --> 01:38:41,730
So that we, it was a final plan submitted.

1288
01:38:46,950 --> 01:38:53,230
I think it was, so we, yeah, I think I've

1289
01:38:53,890 --> 01:38:56,030
complied with everything I'm asked to do.

1290
01:38:56,490 --> 01:38:58,590
We submitted, there were a couple of versions of

1291
01:38:58,590 --> 01:39:02,410
clap because the state came back and asked for the additional

1292
01:39:02,410 --> 01:39:05,230
overlays and these things and then we submitted a

1293
01:39:05,230 --> 01:39:08,190
final, you know, in my mind,

1294
01:39:08,310 --> 01:39:10,230
chronobosch, which should not have been a final practice.

1295
01:39:11,050 --> 01:39:16,890
But, you know, you know, I drew on one to show that this was the initial application.

1296
01:39:17,570 --> 01:39:17,990
I hope you understand.

1297
01:39:21,310 --> 01:39:23,370
I wanted, I'm going to do it right.

1298
01:39:24,050 --> 01:39:28,050
But I think we've, I think we've followed everything we've been asked to follow.

1299
01:39:28,670 --> 01:39:29,610
It's that name.

1300
01:39:30,090 --> 01:39:30,990
It says a hundred flat.

1301
01:39:31,490 --> 01:39:33,930
So we can't take action on it.

1302
01:39:34,210 --> 01:39:36,750
Because it should say, kind of like, okay.

1303
01:39:39,850 --> 01:39:41,950
And it should be that too.

1304
01:39:42,350 --> 01:39:42,850
Yeah, that's a question.

1305
01:39:44,090 --> 01:39:49,630
That's why I would recommend if we want to make sure it's right that just table the

1306
01:39:49,630 --> 01:39:50,130
plot.

1307
01:39:50,510 --> 01:39:51,270
Approve the other ones.

1308
01:39:52,950 --> 01:39:56,150
Or if you want to do it.

1309
01:39:56,150 --> 01:39:59,870
But table the plot so that we can bring it back.

1310
01:40:00,170 --> 01:40:01,630
But that was a question one more.

1311
01:40:01,630 --> 01:40:04,960
So, good, right,

1312
01:40:08,050 --> 01:40:09,990
just for clarification, what do I need to do next?

1313
01:40:10,190 --> 01:40:11,850
We're going to work in the process.

1314
01:40:12,090 --> 01:40:14,950
I think Rob is going to get a final plan.

1315
01:40:17,010 --> 01:40:18,070
It's accurate, I guess.

1316
01:40:18,450 --> 01:40:19,490
There's a couple of enough to do.

1317
01:40:19,490 --> 01:40:21,010
This is your square error.

1318
01:40:21,990 --> 01:40:25,590
I hope you request a table of information.

1319
01:40:26,090 --> 01:40:26,710
There's the application.

1320
01:40:27,130 --> 01:40:27,570
There's the application.

1321
01:40:27,570 --> 01:40:27,770
There's the application.

1322
01:40:32,710 --> 01:40:33,950
There's the application.

1323
01:40:34,790 --> 01:40:37,390
So you're asking me to move it to table it.

1324
01:40:37,390 --> 01:40:39,130
And tell me if I turn on the final plan.

1325
01:40:39,130 --> 01:40:43,630
LL, the U.S., but I think it's a nice way to, as you have to.

1326
01:40:43,870 --> 01:40:45,350
That's the only case, I don't know what you're saying.

1327
01:40:45,910 --> 01:40:51,210
It's okay. I found that in my contracts, it's a best, and it just is.

1328
01:40:51,390 --> 01:40:53,370
Yeah, that's the only station that I'm trying to,

1329
01:40:53,410 --> 01:40:55,430
timing and trying to use this product in and forward.

1330
01:40:56,170 --> 01:41:00,350
But we never, we, we would be advisable acceptors.

1331
01:41:00,610 --> 01:41:03,490
We're in the four-and-ass market type to start home, and I'm trying to plan.

1332
01:41:04,370 --> 01:41:09,190
I think that's right, they may want, but we don't, we don't break around with it.

1333
01:41:09,270 --> 01:41:10,050
We broke around with it.

1334
01:41:10,350 --> 01:41:12,570
All we really need to do is table action.

1335
01:41:12,950 --> 01:41:13,470
I don't understand.

1336
01:41:13,610 --> 01:41:14,050
I don't understand.

1337
01:41:14,190 --> 01:41:14,470
I don't understand.

1338
01:41:14,590 --> 01:41:14,770
I don't understand.

1339
01:41:15,190 --> 01:41:15,570
I don't understand.

1340
01:41:15,970 --> 01:41:18,090
I don't understand.

1341
01:41:18,890 --> 01:41:19,590
It's good.

1342
01:41:20,030 --> 01:41:20,410
It's good.

1343
01:41:21,090 --> 01:41:26,370
If you're more peace of mind that, okay, the only legal question is,

1344
01:41:26,850 --> 01:41:28,010
call that a final plan.

1345
01:41:28,650 --> 01:41:31,910
We've heard a bit of the neurology that the name of it's exactly the same time.

1346
01:41:31,970 --> 01:41:34,310
Does it still get us to beat anyone else?

1347
01:41:34,750 --> 01:41:37,170
Is this whole trial right?

1348
01:41:37,650 --> 01:41:38,670
And it's been made small.

1349
01:41:39,510 --> 01:41:39,570
All right.

1350
01:41:39,670 --> 01:41:40,770
So on that, now we have a last call.

1351
01:41:40,890 --> 01:41:43,250
Anyone from the I2 address inside of it?

1352
01:41:43,470 --> 01:41:43,670
Okay.

1353
01:41:43,930 --> 01:41:45,730
If not, I'll hear most important adjustments.

1354
01:41:46,590 --> 01:41:47,570
I'll move to it first.

1355
01:41:49,110 --> 01:41:50,350
Hey, all fair to say aye.

1356
01:41:50,990 --> 01:41:51,030
Aye.

1357
01:41:51,030 --> 01:41:51,550
Any opposed?

1358
01:41:52,410 --> 01:41:53,010
Is that us?

1359
01:41:53,070 --> 01:41:54,790
I was an AD and C to support this.

1360
01:41:54,790 --> 01:42:01,950
and should have been said to be like that for table planning and zoning item D. Yes, I would.

1361
01:42:02,410 --> 01:42:07,550
Okay. Is there a motion to table? I'll move the table of planning and zoning item D.

1362
01:42:07,890 --> 01:42:14,090
Okay. All right. All right. Thank you very much.

1363
01:42:14,890 --> 01:42:18,090
Okay. It is 6.38 and this meeting is adjourned. Thank you.