[0:00] Good job.
[0:02] >> All right, Sylvia, roll call.
[0:04] >> Mayor Rosner
[0:05] >> here.
[0:06] >> Council President Young is absent.
[0:08] Councelor Brow
[0:08] >> here.
[0:09] >> Councelor Stani
[0:10] >> here.
[0:10] >> Councelor Mays
[0:11] >> here.
[0:12] >> Councelor Scott
[0:12] >> present.
[0:13] >> Councelor Giles
[0:14] >> here.
[0:14] >> Thank you.
[0:15] >> All right. Thank you, Sylvia. Um, do I
[0:17] have a motion for approval of the
[0:19] agenda?
[0:20] >> Second.
[0:21] >> Got a motion, a second. All those in
[0:22] favor of approving the agenda say I.
[0:25] >> All those opposed, same.
[0:28] >> Motion passes. Thank you, council. On
[0:30] the consent agenda tonight, we have four
[0:32] items. Item A, approval of the July 1st,
[0:34] July 21st, 2026 city council meeting
[0:36] minutes. Item B, resolution 2026
[0:40] 052 reappointing Jane
[0:43] Perez Mosher to the Sherwood Cultural
[0:45] Arts Commission. Resolution 2026-053
[0:48] reappointing Lester Nish Nisha Umura I
[0:53] guess hopefully I got that right. Uh to
[0:55] the Sherwood Cultural Arts Commission
[0:57] and resolution 26-054
[1:00] reing Elizabeth Flores to the Shore
[1:02] Cultural Arts Commission.
[1:05] >> Consent.
[1:08] >> I have a motion
[1:09] >> second
[1:10] >> and a second. All those in favor of
[1:12] approving the consent agenda say I. I.
[1:14] All those opposed, same. Motion passes.
[1:17] Thank you, councel.
[1:19] >> All right. Citizen comments. Sie, do we
[1:21] have anything?
[1:21] >> I have nothing.
[1:22] >> All right, let me look.
[1:25] Double check online.
[1:28] pressure.
[1:30] We have no attendees
[1:33] online. I know we have attendees here.
[1:35] Um so no attendees.
[1:38] >> Yes. Um so we will go ahead and move on
[1:41] to public public hearings.
[1:44] Sylvia, we got four items on the agenda
[1:46] tonight. You want to read us in?
[1:47] >> Um I will. So mayor and council for item
[1:50] number A, ordinance 2026004.
[1:52] I'll read one statement for that item
[1:54] and then a following statement for the
[1:56] remainder of the other three items.
[1:59] The Sherwood City Council will hold the
[2:00] public hearing this evening to receive
[2:02] testimony on ordinance 2026-004
[2:06] amending Sherwood Municipal Code Chapter
[2:08] 1.01
[2:10] public contracting rules. This is the
[2:12] second hearing on this item. The public
[2:14] hearing this evening will be conducted
[2:15] as follows. Staff will present a staff
[2:18] report questions if any by the council
[2:20] of four staff. We will then receive
[2:22] written testimony. We will then open the
[2:24] public hearing for testimony and the
[2:25] time will be limited to four minutes per
[2:27] person. Any interested person may
[2:29] present testimony. We will then close
[2:31] the public hearing. No other comments
[2:33] will be heard from the public. Final
[2:35] comments by staff. Questions of staff if
[2:37] any by the council followed by council
[2:39] discussion. This is the second hearing
[2:41] before the city council on this item. A
[2:43] decision may be made by the council at
[2:45] the close of this hearing or the matter
[2:47] may be continued to a time and date
[2:49] certain. If the matter is continued to a
[2:51] date certain, this is the only notice of
[2:53] that date you will receive. If you wish
[2:55] to speak, please fill out a request to
[2:57] speak form and submit it to the city
[2:58] recorder prior to the time the public
[3:00] hearing is open for testimony. The mayor
[3:02] will recognize people who wish to speak
[3:04] and any comments must be addressed
[3:06] through the mayor. When you come
[3:07] forward, please state your name and
[3:09] place of residence for the record as
[3:11] this hearing will be recorded.
[3:13] >> Thank you, Sylvia. Um, so I'm going to
[3:15] go ahead and turn it over to Ryan for a
[3:17] staff report.
[3:28] Thank you, Mayor Council. Good evening.
[3:30] So, this is our second second.
[3:39] As you can see,
[3:41] the city procurement code
[3:44] changes
[3:47] last council meeting through those small
[3:56] questions
[3:58] updates the city code with our current
[4:01] state
[4:11] of the proposed changes would be
[4:15] previously small procurements $10,000
[4:17] procurement
[4:27] there's no competition that staff
[4:29] selects
[4:36] intermediate procurements
[4:40] for those
[4:42] previously $150,000 up $250,000
[4:47] And there
[4:51] are
[4:54] things like
[4:58] $250,000.
[5:00] So also allows
[5:08] staff remain
[5:14] questions.
[5:17] Thank you, Ryan. Any questions for Ryan?
[5:21] Any written testimony?
[5:22] >> I don't.
[5:23] >> Okay, great. Um, yeah, go ahead.
[5:26] >> A point of clarification. Uh, last
[5:29] meeting we had on the consent agenda
[5:32] contract for water treatment plants. The
[5:34] Sherwood share was like $216,000,
[5:38] but the total was 650. that because of
[5:42] it being our share under the 250 that
[5:44] would not need to come to city council.
[5:46] Is that correct?
[5:46] >> I think we would still bring that to
[5:48] council.
[6:06] That's how I was reading it as well.
[6:09] >> Yeah, I would bring that to you. Uh, one
[6:12] because of the total cost. Uh, two,
[6:15] because unbudgeted and we're going to be
[6:17] bringing a supplemental budget back
[6:18] anyway. So, I I wouldn't want you to see
[6:20] it in a supplemental if you didn't see
[6:22] beforehand.
[6:23] >> Well, yes, I know that the process would
[6:25] I curious like
[6:28] answered technically. Thank you.
[6:32] >> No, it's it's a great question. I'm just
[6:35] letting the public know that there's a
[6:36] process because without a budget line
[6:38] item, you can't approve it anyways and
[6:40] there will be there'll be a separate
[6:41] supplemental budget process on this. So,
[6:45] good question. Um,
[6:47] so I guess if there's no more questions,
[6:49] go ahead and open the public hearing.
[6:51] Sia, do we have anybody?
[6:53] >> And I see nobody online. Anyone from the
[6:55] audience?
[7:02] Um, we'll go ahead and close the public
[7:04] hearing at this point. Any additional
[7:07] discussion?
[7:11] » It's our second reading. So, I'll take a
[7:13] motion.
[7:18] » I move we recaption adopt ordinance
[7:19] 2026-4
[7:21] amendments chapter 1.01 public
[7:24] contracting rules. Right. We have a
[7:28] motion and a second
[7:34] amending the Sherwood Municipal Code
[7:36] Chapter 1.10 public contracting rules.
[7:39] Councelor Giles, how do you vote?
[7:42] >> Councelor Scott.
[7:43] >> Hi,
[7:44] >> Councelor Mays.
[7:45] >> Hi,
[7:45] >> Councelor Stankey.
[7:46] >> Hi,
[7:47] >> Councelor Brow. Hi,
[7:48] >> Mayor Rosner. Hi.
[7:50] >> Thank you.
[7:52] We have a new ordinance
[7:54] actually will go into effect in
[7:57] 30 days.
[7:59] All right, Silia, I'm gonna go ahead and
[8:02] have you read us into the next ones. I
[8:04] understand they'll be slightly different
[8:05] process.
[8:06] >> The Sherwood City Council will hold
[8:08] public hearings this evening on three
[8:10] items on the agenda. Ordinance 2026-005
[8:15] amending chapter 3.30 of the Sherwood
[8:18] Municipal Code to increase the city
[8:20] transient lodging tax. Ordinance
[8:23] 2026-006
[8:25] amending chapter 2.08.095
[8:29] of the Sherwood Municipal Code Youth
[8:31] Advisory Board. Ordinance 2026-007
[8:35] establishing a commercial public safety
[8:37] fee and adding section 350
[8:41] to the Sherwood Municipal Code. The
[8:43] public hearings this evening will be
[8:45] conducted as follows. Staff will present
[8:47] a staff report questions if any by the
[8:49] city council for staff. We will then
[8:51] receive written testimony. We will then
[8:53] open the public hearing for testimony
[8:55] and the time will be limited to four
[8:56] minutes per person. Any interested
[8:58] person may present testimony. We will
[9:00] then close the public hearing. No other
[9:02] comments will be heard from the public.
[9:04] Final comments by staff. Questions of
[9:06] staff, if any, by the council, followed
[9:08] by council discussion. This is the first
[9:10] hearing before the city council on these
[9:12] items. Generally, the council will hold
[9:14] two hearings prior to making a decision.
[9:17] A second hearing on these three
[9:18] ordinances is currently for the
[9:21] September 1st meeting. However, in
[9:23] accordance with the city charter, the
[9:24] council reserves the right to make a
[9:26] decision at the close of this hearing by
[9:28] a unanimous vote of all city and council
[9:30] members.
[9:32] If you wish to speak, please fill out a
[9:34] request to speak form and submit it to
[9:35] city recorder prior to the time the
[9:37] public hearing is open for testimony.
[9:39] The mayor will recognize people who wish
[9:41] to speak and any comments must be
[9:42] addressed through the mayor. When you
[9:44] come forward, please state your name and
[9:45] place of residence for the for the
[9:48] record as this hearing will be recorded.
[9:50] Thank you, Silia. And for the first
[9:52] ordinance 2026-5,
[9:55] we have our finance director, David.
[9:57] >> Thank you, mayor. As Sylvia said, this
[10:00] is the first reading of ordinance
[10:02] 2026-005
[10:04] amending chapter 3.30 of the Sherwood
[10:07] Municipal Code to increase the transit
[10:09] lod.
[10:12] OS 320 permits local jurisdictions to
[10:14] assess transit lodging taxes. The city
[10:16] of Sherwood in 2019 adopted the transit
[10:20] lodge tax of the city at a rate of 3%.
[10:24] Visitors who stay in transit lodging
[10:25] benefit from a variety of city services
[10:27] and public investments including
[10:29] transportation, police services, parks,
[10:31] public art. Uh the proposed increase
[10:34] would allow a greater share of these
[10:35] costs to be supported by visitors rather
[10:38] than Sherwood residents and businesses.
[10:41] The city's transient lodging tax has
[10:43] remained unchanged, as I've said, since
[10:45] 2019. The proposed ordinance increases
[10:48] the rate in two phases to provide uh
[10:51] lodging providers and visitors adequate
[10:53] notice of time to adjust to new. Under
[10:56] this uh proposed ordinance, the the
[10:58] local transit lodging tax would increase
[11:01] from 3% to 5% on October 1st, 2026.
[11:06] a year later increasing from five to
[11:08] six% on October 1st, 2027
[11:12] with
[11:15] All right. Thank you, David. Any
[11:16] questions?
[11:21] I may be misremembering, but did we
[11:24] decide to do it in two steps last time?
[11:26] >> Okay. All right.
[11:31] Any other questions?
[11:37] We didn't
[11:41] there was consensus that that was the
[11:42] direction
[11:44] tonight.
[11:45] >> Yes,
[11:45] >> correct. I misspoke. Thank you.
[11:47] >> There were several voices advocating for
[11:56] » um if there's any other questions.
[12:01] All right. Um, do we have any uh written
[12:04] testimony?
[12:05] >> I do not.
[12:06] >> Okay, great. So, at this point, I'll
[12:07] open the public hearing. Silia, do we
[12:09] have anybody sign up?
[12:10] >> I do not.
[12:11] >> Anybody from the audience? No.
[12:14] And we don't have anyone online, so go
[12:16] ahead and close the public hearing. Uh,
[12:19] any This is the first reading. We don't
[12:22] have whole council tonight, but is there
[12:24] any additional discussion before we
[12:25] close out?
[12:29] » I'll just say that
[12:32] interested
[12:34] about this couple meetings ago.
[12:46] » Thank you. I I would just add to I'm
[12:50] supportive and uh you know it's it's one
[12:52] of the ways um cities can raise taxes on
[12:56] tourism basically because we don't not
[12:59] like other states like Washington
[13:01] doesn't have tax, but they have sales
[13:03] tax. It's helpful.
[13:05] All right,
[13:08] good. So, we'll go ahead and move on to
[13:10] ordinance 2026-006
[13:13] amending the chapter 2.08095,
[13:17] Sherwood Municipal Code Youth Advisory
[13:19] Board.
[13:21] Kristen, where's
[13:21] >> Kristen?
[13:23] I am on her name is on the agenda.
[13:30] Ryan, are you gonna be speaking on this
[13:31] one?
[13:32] >> I am.
[13:34] >> Awesome. Thank you.
[13:41] » Previously, we had seven.
[13:51] So what the proposal is to up that
[13:54] number to maximum 12
[14:04] does change
[14:06] and terms
[14:12] after graduation.
[14:30] language.
[14:40] Awesome. Thank you.
[14:45] So if I'm correctly changed
[14:53] their sophomore year
[14:55] without having to be
[14:58] but it wouldn't preclude
[15:00] upper classmen from from being
[15:02] appointed. Their term would just end up
[15:03] being shorter.
[15:10] not required.
[15:15] » And this was a specific request from the
[15:18] advisory board. It also is a thought
[15:21] process to enable
[15:24] underassmen.
[15:48] » We had
[15:50] applicants around
[15:55] us.
[16:15] So, I'm I'm definitely for, you know,
[16:18] improving the numbers on this. I would love the advisory board, the
[16:24] youth advisory board to um
[16:28] also propose maybe a way that we're
[16:30] going to
[16:32] avoid bias a little bit in terms of
[16:34] getting I know it's easy to recruit
[16:38] your friends or people who are in your
[16:40] same social circles or things like that.
[16:42] And so, um trying to figure out, okay,
[16:46] looking at our board, what groups are
[16:48] not here and specifically try to recruit
[16:54] that so that we don't um end up in a
[16:57] spot, you know, and I'm not saying
[16:58] that's now, but down the road it could
[17:01] be a spot where we've got the exact same
[17:04] voices being heard over and over again.
[17:06] So, um, they don't have to do it now. I
[17:09] think that this is a great step to
[17:11] getting us in the right direction. And
[17:13] if they If they feel like it would help
[17:15] them do their job better and be a more
[17:17] effective board, then I support them
[17:19] that
[17:23] council hearing.
[17:26] >> I am not. It's more of encouragement to
[17:30] because you know Rene just said they did
[17:32] a great job recruiting. Um I and I just
[17:35] want to
[17:37] you know I know that they hang on every
[17:39] word that they watch these meetings in
[17:42] full. I'm sure. Right. No, just kidding.
[17:47] But if they could if they can just be
[17:50] aware of that to be able to reach out
[17:51] and and uh recruit from groups that are
[17:55] underrepresented.
[17:57] >> Just for the record, there was some
[17:59] pretty good diversity this last go
[18:01] round.
[18:01] >> Yeah. And I but by the way, it's one of
[18:03] those things where if we're aware of it,
[18:06] most of the time that solves a lot of
[18:08] the problem. So,
[18:13] I agree with everything you said and I
[18:14] say this in a joking
[18:17] way, but I disagree with one thing. I
[18:19] already think we're on a great path and
[18:21] I don't think we need to get on a a
[18:23] better path, but um I'm not saying it
[18:25] well. I'm making a joke.
[18:26] >> Okay.
[18:29] >> It's an amazing joke. Thank you.
[18:31] >> Yes. Yeah. Uh, so the blunder
[18:35] >> members who are on the board already who
[18:38] had agreed to a one or two-year term
[18:41] that are now eligible for three, does
[18:43] there need to be language to grandfather
[18:45] them in if that is allowed?
[18:58] » Just want to make sure that the people
[18:59] who are already on then either serve
[19:02] their term and then reapply or
[19:06] however that needs to happen.
[19:08] >> Simply reappoint them and then they're
[19:09] covered.
[19:11] >> Okay.
[19:26] All right. So, we're gonna
[19:29] completely lost track where we were.
[19:33] >> Open. I'm sorry. Or not. I'll go ahead
[19:35] and open the public hearing. Sie, do we
[19:37] have anybody?
[19:40] >> No. You want to come up? Awesome.
[19:46] I was hoping we get you at least one
[19:47] time.
[19:49] >> Yeah. Go ahead and uh just uh state your
[19:52] name. You don't have to state your
[19:53] address. And uh
[19:55] >> yeah, take away.
[19:56] >> My name is M and I live on Lat Road. Um
[19:59] I didn't really write anything out. I
[20:01] wasn't expecting to give any sort of
[20:02] public hearing. But I think this is a
[20:04] great change especially uh in regards to
[20:07] broadening the board to be 12 members
[20:09] because I think that allows for more
[20:11] sort of diversified perspective and
[20:13] allows for more groups to be heard and
[20:15] sort of
[20:17] like
[20:19] the effect of
[20:21] places
[20:26] because I think if it's if it's like a
[20:28] small group like seven people
[20:31] are going to want to be around friends
[20:35] groups.
[20:44] » Awesome. Thank you. And thank you for
[20:46] serving on our our board.
[20:52] All right. Um, so I'll go ahead andbody
[20:56] check my go ahead and close the public
[20:59] hearing. Do we have any additional
[21:00] discussion before we move on? Yes,
[21:02] another question. I know when we were
[21:04] first passing debating the language of
[21:06] the original
[21:08] discussion
[21:16] or not
[21:26] have
[21:33] I think the intent was
[21:40] the physical district. Anyone
[21:44] my thought here is we're going to
[21:55] minimum that doesn't go
[21:58] to get some representation.
[22:01] school.
[22:02] >> Yeah, it could be any
[22:09] language does allow for that.
[22:10] >> I will look and see.
[22:11] >> I'm saying required
[22:14] 11 to 12, you want at least one reserve
[22:15] for somebody who doesn't
[22:19] but yeah. So, but if nobody applies,
[22:22] does that mean you don't have a quorum?
[22:24] If you have nobody from a home school
[22:28] assuming they apply
[22:34] » I like
[22:36] concept
[22:39] one is for sure attendee
[22:44] and it's not filter
[22:48] » we can absolutely consider that change
[22:51] the language says it shallist
[22:54] up to 12 members who are enrolled in
[22:57] grades through 12 and are either
[23:00] Sherwood residents or attend
[23:12] a
[23:23] Is it is it attends a school within Sher School District or lives
[23:28] within
[23:31] >> That's not what that said.
[23:32] >> Live or
[23:35] » so either resendary,
[23:39] » but there's a group of people that
[23:44] group that could live in.
[23:46] So, I'm not I'm not saying I'm saying at
[23:50] least one person.
[23:57] » Just to put a fine point on it, we're
[23:59] not saying we're requiring it. We're
[24:01] just saying one spot is held out. So, if
[24:03] no one applies, obviously, we can't fill
[24:05] it.
[24:07] >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
[24:10] >> 100%. 100%. I think uh I I can get
[24:13] behind that idea, too. I think it also
[24:15] reminds us that we got to expand our
[24:17] recruitment beyond just within the
[24:20] public school system. And to me also it
[24:22] drives the distinction
[24:30] overap
[24:43] has Sure.
[24:50] I
[24:52] would not
[24:54] choose that personally, but that's
[25:06] not against it. I am not
[25:09] currently
[25:17] there.
[25:28] » Yeah, my my thought was it it makes it a
[25:31] little more complicated, however, and I
[25:32] wouldn't want it to stay empty. Now,
[25:34] that's probably an unrealistic fe. I
[25:36] think we had several that were not in
[25:39] the traditional school district this
[25:41] last time. So, I don't know that that's
[25:43] something, but it also
[25:45] um and I I don't think it's a problem
[25:48] when I think of worst case scenario that
[25:50] we have an empty slot and we only have
[25:52] 11. That's still better than where we're
[25:55] at now with getting to a variety of
[25:57] voices. So, if I can live with the worst
[25:59] case scenario and it's actually fine,
[26:02] then I don't then I don't have a problem
[26:04] with it. So, Councelor
[26:07] Young's
[26:14] consensus to draft that
[26:32] » one night because we're going to be
[26:34] delayed now.
[26:35] days.
[26:39] » I know. I get it.
[26:47] » All right. So, we will go ahead and
[26:50] table that that. So, that'll be in our
[26:51] next When's our next meeting?
[26:53] >> September.
[26:54] That's right. We're skipping.
[26:55] That's double check. So, uh first
[26:58] meeting in September. So, we'll go ahead
[27:00] and move on then to ordinance 2026-7
[27:03] establishing a commercial public safety
[27:05] fee and adding section 3.5 to the
[27:08] Sherwood Municipal Code. And David,
[27:10] looks like you're up again. I'm up
[27:12] again.
[27:13] >> So, thank you, mayor. This is the first
[27:15] reading of ordinance 2026
[27:18] establishing a commercial safety and
[27:22] adding section 2.50 to the Sherwood
[27:24] Municipal Code.
[27:29] Like many municipalities, you know, we
[27:32] continually face ongoing challenges
[27:35] public safety services due to
[27:38] limitations on property tax revenue
[27:40] service costs continue to rise equipment
[27:44] operational. While the city's ability to
[27:47] increase property tax
[27:50] now we've held a few work sessions on
[27:52] this topic was July 7th and the previous
[27:55] one was
[27:57] 21
[28:00] discussion on this topic
[28:03] numerous cities have adopted a public
[28:05] safety fee often build on utility
[28:08] accounts as a lawful mechanism to
[28:10] provide stable dedicated funding.
[28:17] City of Kaiser is one we kind of modeled
[28:19] a little bit of potential ordinance off
[28:22] of it's based off equivalent service
[28:25] units or ESUs
[28:29] and staff recommends the short adopt a
[28:31] similar enabling ordinance limited to
[28:33] commercial and I stress that commercial
[28:36] nonresidential properties only this
[28:38] approach focuses the new on generates
[28:42] significant demand for police services
[28:44] while avoiding additional charge on
[28:47] resil
[29:10] street fees and sidewalk fees. So it
[29:13] will be an easier
[29:17] and one thing I did want to cover it
[29:19] provides funding for the police but it
[29:22] doesn't address I just want to make that
[29:25] clear
[29:36] if the ordinance is adopted staff will
[29:39] bring
[29:41] additional resolution Estology.
[30:01] » All right. Thank you, David. Any
[30:02] questions?
[30:06] » Yes. I noticed that we had not received
[30:09] any comments through outreach.
[30:13] How robust was that?
[30:20] There hasn't been a lot of outreach on
[30:22] this per se and but there will be once
[30:24] it gets passed want to find the
[30:26] businesses but we haven't seen anything
[30:28] to the business saying you were holding
[30:29] a hearing tonight.
[30:31] >> Okay. And one thing we discussed during
[30:32] the work session
[30:39] January so we have time to get that
[30:41] outach
[30:46] see where you're going there because I
[30:47] think what the businesses are going to
[30:49] be interested is in the rates.
[30:51] >> Correct.
[30:51] >> And this this does not set rates. just
[30:54] to your point, it just creates a
[30:55] structure that the council could um set
[30:59] through resolution pass a rate
[31:01] structure. Um and I I agree I think with
[31:04] where you're going on this definitely
[31:06] want to talk to our businesses so they
[31:08] understand what we're thinking about.
[31:10] >> Right. Well, and this is the ordinance
[31:11] and the rates is just a resolution. And
[31:13] so I'm like I want to make sure that
[31:16] we're sharing enough through this
[31:19] process about what we've discussed in
[31:21] the work sessions for what the rate
[31:23] structure
[31:24] might look like for these businesses
[31:26] that don't really have a say besides
[31:28] coming to this meeting that they don't
[31:29] know about
[31:33] is it
[31:41] make a suggestion if staff
[31:43] outber.
[32:20] And then my other question was, is there
[32:22] I I didn't read any like sunset clause
[32:25] in this. Will this ever be discussed
[32:28] again or is this a one and done for this
[32:30] type of fee?
[32:32] >> There is no sunset clause in this
[32:37] charge.
[32:40] The entire
[32:42] to create a structure whereby
[33:10] possible
[33:21] Even the resolution process for the fees
[33:24] require
[33:33] questions.
[33:38] » All right. Um
[33:40] I would I would just add too that
[33:43] David you talked to this a little bit
[33:45] and I would encourage everyone to go
[33:47] watch our work sessions on this because
[33:49] it is a public safety fee and it's the
[33:52] reason we structured around commercials.
[33:55] We do see a lot of police activity in
[33:57] our commercial districts dealing with
[33:59] shoplifting.
[34:04] So that's we're trying to be thoughtful
[34:06] about where we're generating revenue
[34:10] based on the need. And some people might
[34:12] say why are you using ESUs for this? And
[34:15] um which is an is a not well understood
[34:19] mechanism for ev valuating wastewater or storm storm water consumption for a
[34:25] lot. And it's basically because it's the
[34:27] closest thing we had. You know logic
[34:29] would say well we go based on square
[34:31] foot. We don't have that kind of data,
[34:34] you know. So, this was the closest data
[34:37] unit we could get that kind of matches
[34:38] what we're trying to accomplish. I get
[34:40] that right. Okay. Awesome. Thank you.
[34:45] >> Sorry, mayor. Have one. Yeah. Question.
[34:48] Um reading in this it looked like um
[34:51] because this is going to be part of the
[34:52] utility bill with water that
[34:56] my understanding is that the water bill
[34:58] portion is paid first with whatever
[35:01] um they pay towards their bill and that
[35:04] if the um in this instance the
[35:06] commercial fee is not paid public safety
[35:08] fee that the water would not be shut off
[35:10] but the language didn't specifically say
[35:13] that the water bill is paid first with
[35:16] the first portion of people are not able
[35:18] to pay. Is that true?
[35:31] » Okay, that's how I understood it as
[35:32] well, but I didn't see specific language
[35:34] for that.
[35:36] >> We have some other accounts like that.
[35:38] >> Okay.
[35:49] questions.
[35:53] Okay. Um,
[35:56] we'll go ahead and do we have any
[35:57] written testimony?
[35:59] >> Okay. And go ahead and open the public
[36:01] hearing. Not seeing anyone online.
[36:11] » All right. I'll go ahead and close the
[36:13] public hearing. And uh, this is the
[36:16] you have something discussion
[36:18] >> just um I'm appreciative of the
[36:20] conversation council and staff had on
[36:23] this topic on the approach that is
[36:27] proposed in this ordinance with a
[36:29] potential fee um
[36:32] I'm very supportive of it I think it's a
[36:35] really smart approach
[36:38] and it
[36:40] is adopt some structure
[36:46] I'm very happy with uh with that
[36:48] approach versus we've we've
[36:52] looked at what other communities, other
[36:54] cities have done. Um near near to us and
[36:58] further away within Oregon. Um there's
[37:00] definitely some models out there that
[37:03] not supportive of mimicking. Um
[37:08] really nice.
[37:14] Yeah,
[37:15] that
[37:17] budget compression is a very real thing
[37:19] here in Oregon
[37:23] tools to raise
[37:29] and our costs across all
[37:32] quite a bit more than that.
[37:39] means that
[37:42] right costs go up twice as high
[37:48] grow
[37:52] don't want to cut
[37:57] this
[38:00] and reasonable
[38:02] time. That's really what we're
[38:07] usreing
[38:12] a little bit.
[38:27] And for anyone that is watching this
[38:29] clear this is 100% commercial
[38:33] zero residential there's no impact to
[38:35] resal
[38:51] I think you mentioned the dates we had
[38:52] work sessions on this
[38:55] dates of the work session April 21st
[38:58] July.
[38:59] >> Thank you. And I would just anyone
[39:01] listening or anyone who listens to this
[39:03] later on YouTube, I encourage you to go
[39:05] watch those um work sessions because if
[39:08] you're a business owner, you're probably
[39:09] thinking how much is this rate going to
[39:11] be. We had a lot of conversations in
[39:13] those meetings about what this could
[39:15] look like and make sure that it's it's
[39:17] fair and not a burden for say a very
[39:21] small, you know, merkantile shop versus
[39:24] a a large footprint box retailer. I
[39:28] won't name who they are that drives a
[39:31] lot of activity for police department.
[39:33] So, a lot of the structures that we
[39:35] talked about I thought were pretty fair,
[39:38] but I encourage people if you have
[39:39] questions about at least what we're
[39:40] thinking at this point, go watch those.
[39:45] All right. Anything else?
[39:49] All right. Well, we will uh go bring
[39:51] this back. First meeting in September.
[39:54] Awesome. Thank you everyone. Thank you
[39:56] Sylvia help on that. And we will move
[39:58] right to city manager report.
[40:01] >> Evening. Just a couple things. Uh, I
[40:03] just want to talk just about Music on
[40:05] the Green tomorrow night. It's looking
[40:06] like we'll probably have it at the art
[40:08] center. So, a notice will go out
[40:10] tomorrow. We'll probably have to limit
[40:12] the number of people that we bring into
[40:14] the arts center, but we've got to pay
[40:16] for the band and stuff, so we may as
[40:17] well use the space we have. Shanda and
[40:20] her team have done a great job at the
[40:22] last minute putting this together. So,
[40:24] just to let you know that, I know I send
[40:26] an email to you guys and make a decision
[40:27] later in the morning, but I think
[40:29] everything we're seeing is going to be
[40:31] make announcement.
[40:33] Uh, movies in the park Friday night. I
[40:36] think it's cars this week.
[40:39] So, and then I just want to remind
[40:41] everybody Washington Street over here on
[40:43] the hills going to have some closures
[40:45] this week. They'll be open in the
[40:46] evenings, but uh for paving for that
[40:49] project. So, that's all I have tonight
[40:51] unless you have questions for myself or
[40:53] any of the directors.
[40:55] >> Follow
[40:58] that.
[41:00] It's looking like the stuff that we've
[41:02] seen so far, it looks like it'll clear
[41:04] out, but we'll make that decision as we
[41:06] get.
[41:08] >> I don't know if they have I think they
[41:10] have might be an event going on Friday
[41:12] night.
[41:13] >> Is there any chance we could reach out
[41:14] to the high school, see if their
[41:16] auditorium's open,
[41:18] >> I'm sure.
[41:20] >> Okay, great. Happy to do that.
[41:21] >> They've got a nice theater there.
[41:23] >> Craig, this stuff that's going on in
[41:25] Washington Street, how will it or will it affect
[41:30] what's happening on Saturday.
[41:35] » I think they're supposed to be they
[41:36] should be done by the end of the week if
[41:38] everything goes as planned. So should
[41:41] not
[41:44] » look at
[41:53] » um on the Washington Street project. Um,
[41:58] kudos to the staff and contractor. Um, I
[42:01] think the final result is going to be
[42:03] great. A definite improvement,
[42:06] addressing a urgent need um on
[42:11] underground utilities, but then helping
[42:13] to better manage the storm uh runoff
[42:17] that section of the hill.
[42:20] It's great. So kudos to the design and
[42:24] the approach.
[42:26] >> Thank you.
[42:30] » Could you just do a quick update on the
[42:32] water leak we had on ice? So um Rich, do
[42:37] you have any more details from what we
[42:38] talked about?
[42:40] So uh it sounds like the water treatment
[42:43] plant that went into water supply
[42:47] 16inch pipe first on their side of ice
[42:51] which
[42:53] are part of the ice drive projects.
[42:58] But not only that, we got subgrade.
[43:29] But I know the manufactur
[43:50] is a 12
[43:52] project
[43:55] the contractors.
[43:57] put that in that was not the city
[44:01] project
[44:09] emergency connect between us and the
[44:11] plan.
[44:12] >> So, and we're going to be I'm assuming
[44:15] going after them for compensation on
[44:18] that.
[44:18] >> I'm I'm sure that that uh those details
[44:22] will probably be uh being in discussed
[44:24] as we move forward. All
[44:29] right.
[44:34] » And and for those listening why we're
[44:36] concerned about that, that water is not
[44:37] free for us. It goes through our
[44:39] treatment plant for that water. So
[44:44] » if it delays the project, will that
[44:46] affect
[44:50] » those things? Most of that money has
[44:52] been spent already on the project.
[45:02] All right, we'll go ahead. Anything
[45:03] else, Chief? Anything?
[45:09] » No,
[45:12] actually just uh just bummed out we
[45:14] couldn't have a national night out. A
[45:16] lot of work was put into that from our
[45:19] foundation and volunteers, but uh
[45:21] unfortunately, as we know, the air
[45:23] quality just didn't want to cooperate.
[45:26] >> I'm assuming a lot of the cities around
[45:27] us were canceling too.
[45:28] >> Yeah.
[45:29] >> I saw that a number of the cities are
[45:31] rescheduling to a different day. Is that
[45:33] something we're considering as well?
[45:36] >> We have not had that discussion. U
[45:38] probably the biggest hurdle is just
[45:40] logistics.
[45:44] » All right. Um council announcements.
[45:49] » You want to go first?
[45:50] >> Me?
[45:51] >> Yeah. Mixing it up.
[45:55] parks board in li of their normal
[45:57] meeting met yesterday at Creek Trail to
[46:00] kind of walk the trail and look where
[46:03] they were going to place
[46:13] after that.
[46:23] Anyway, the third park over there
[46:42] process
[46:46] I think it was an education.
[47:01] Uh the Sherwood School District uh board
[47:06] will not be meeting until the start of
[47:07] school year. So nothing to report for
[47:09] that. The library board has not met
[47:11] since last we met. U traffic safety
[47:14] board met a couple weeks ago and they
[47:17] were discussing
[47:19] um some type of process for community
[47:23] feedback for the mobile speed camera
[47:25] placement. Um they've been starting to
[47:28] receive
[47:30] essentially traffic safety concerns with
[47:32] a request of moving the cameras to that
[47:34] location. And so if we have a more
[47:36] formal process maybe for that that would
[47:37] be helpful for the traffic safety board
[47:39] and the community. Um something else
[47:42] that they discussed was lowering the
[47:44] residential speed limit from 25 to 20
[47:47] including the Oldtown area. Uh still
[47:50] under discussion there asked staff for
[47:52] some additional information to review at
[47:54] the next meeting.
[47:56] Um and then also changing the mobile
[48:00] speed camera uh upper limit to six miles
[48:04] over the speed limit for school zones
[48:06] instead of the 11 miles an hour right
[48:09] now. um non school zones. So all those
[48:12] things are being discussed uh traffic
[48:14] safety board and we should get some type
[48:16] of recommendation from them at something
[48:19] for that. Uh at the last meeting I
[48:23] mentioned the renaming of the cultural
[48:25] arts center. Um but that meeting will be
[48:28] held on the first Tuesday of September.
[48:30] That has been moved.
[48:33] >> I was I was just gonna say on that I was
[48:35] going to talk to you about after the
[48:36] meeting. Um, you're right. It's being
[48:39] moved, but I'm actually thinking about
[48:40] moving it back to a work session again
[48:42] for more conversations. So, um, I didn't
[48:45] want you to announce a date and have
[48:46] different.
[48:48] >> Okay.
[48:49] >> TBD.
[48:51] >> And that's all I have for today.
[48:53] >> Awesome.
[48:57] » The planning commission did not meet.
[48:59] However, I noticed out in the library
[49:03] they um advertising for the repair fair.
[49:07] on the 15th. If you have small
[49:08] appliances or if you like to fix things
[49:11] or tinker, sign up for that. That's
[49:13] always fun. And I'm excited to see
[49:16] people at Cruz and Sherwood. That's all
[49:19] for me.
[49:23] » It's nice to see you, Finn. Thanks for
[49:24] being here. I know you're off to college
[49:28] here pretty soon, but thank you for
[49:29] giving your input. super excited about
[49:31] the direction that we might be going
[49:33] with the youth advisory board and the
[49:36] fresh talent that we'll be appointing
[49:39] here soon and all the great things that
[49:40] will come from it. And as has already
[49:43] been mentioned, cruising Sherwood is
[49:45] this weekend, so downtown starts to shut
[49:48] down on Friday. This is going to be a
[49:50] big show. We're already close to 300
[49:52] cars pre-registered and we expect close
[49:55] to 400 to 450 cars in the oldtown
[49:57] corridor and lots of vendors and food
[50:00] booths and all the good things. We've
[50:02] got a air quality control plan that has
[50:04] been put together
[50:07] thanks to this wonderful smoke. But
[50:09] yeah, it's going to be a wonderful show
[50:11] and hope you all come out and see it.
[50:12] Thank you for those of you who have
[50:14] volunteered to support. And I think
[50:16] that's all I have.
[50:18] >> It won't be raining.
[50:19] >> It's not going to rain. Sunny and 82 I
[50:21] think is the last time I saw.
[50:28] » Yeah. Cruising this weekend. Um also
[50:31] >> also this weekend is the fourth annual
[50:34] >> birds and bruise or bruise and beer
[50:37] brew. Um it's friends of the refuge. Um
[50:40] beer event at Langers. Um it's
[50:43] unfortunate that it uh is at the same
[50:45] time as cruising. Um but uh hopefully
[50:49] the show big
[50:53] uh that uh there'll be even more stuff
[50:56] for thousands and thousands of folks
[50:58] that come into town to experience. So,
[51:02] um yeah,
[51:05] it'll be a great weekend.
[51:07] >> Awesome. Um I'm going to keep it very
[51:09] quick. Uh just say another plug for the
[51:13] music on the greens, which
[51:15] might be in the uh art center, but I
[51:19] wanted to mention that we have a cover
[51:20] band which a lot of fun people to show
[51:23] up it's in the art center I get there
[51:25] early
[51:27] even even down on the green you want to
[51:28] get there early because it's usually
[51:30] pretty packed and uh with that I'm good
[51:33] unless there's anything else for the
[51:34] good of the order
[51:37] we are adjourned and we will go right
[51:39] into our you are a board of directors
[51:41] meeting not
[51:44] >> says we are
[51:45] >> do we have a separate sheet
[51:49] Thank you. Usually
[52:10] » Yeah.
[52:20] All right. Um,
[52:24] » okay. I'm going to go ahead and call our
[52:26] URA board uh board meeting to order.
[52:30] Tuesday, August 4th, 2026 at 8 or no,
[52:35] 7:55.
[52:38] Roll call.
[52:41] >> Here. Vice Chair Young is absent. Member
[52:45] Browse
[52:45] >> here.
[52:46] >> Member Stani
[52:47] >> here.
[52:47] >> Member Maize
[52:48] >> here.
[52:49] >> Member Scott
[52:49] >> here.
[52:50] >> Member Giles
[52:51] >> here.
[52:51] >> Thank you.
[52:53] >> All right. Before the consent agenda, um
[52:55] I understand you might want to pull
[52:57] something.
[52:57] >> Yeah. I'd like to move item B off the
[52:58] consent agenda on item four.
[53:05] » So, we'll uh move that to a discussion.
[53:08] >> Second.
[53:09] >> Well,
[53:11] Second. So, all those in favor of
[53:13] amending the agenda say I.
[53:16] >> I. Opposed.
[53:18] >> Motion passes. Now, um do I have a
[53:21] motion to approve the amended agenda?
[53:24] Item A, approval of February 3rd, 2026.
[53:27] Zero UR meeting minutes.
[53:31] >> Okay. Motion to second. All those in
[53:33] favor of approving those minutes say I.
[53:35] >> I.
[53:36] >> Opposed. Motion passes. Thank you,
[53:38] council. and we will go move on to a
[53:41] discussion about the UA resolution
[53:45] 2026002
[53:48] you wanted to pull it so I'll let you
[53:49] take off start
[53:50] >> yeah I just we we had discussion around
[53:54] these items
[53:58] I just want to vote no on it so I just
[54:00] want to
[54:04] discuss it
[54:07] not in favor of the
[54:09] design.
[54:19] » All right. Well, no, you got to pull it
[54:21] off. So, absolutely. All right. Anyone
[54:24] else want to comment on that? Otherwise,
[54:26] I'll motion.
[54:28] >> Move to approve
[54:30] resolution.
[54:32] 20262.
[54:36] » Refresh. What?
[54:45] Did you want to say
[54:48] >> I'm just available?
[54:49] >> I just have to ask her to come up just
[54:51] in case you had questions back to um
[54:53] there was several people that didn't
[54:55] like the S with the medallion design
[55:00] thinks it looks like a logo.
[55:02] >> Just to be clear, I like I like the
[55:03] artist designs that go inside all seven.
[55:07] Okay.
[55:08] >> Um, on the surrounding area, there's a
[55:10] template that's being used on all of
[55:11] them. It's the same. And
[55:14] >> my concern was that the S with the Robin
[55:17] Hood Lab Lab hat over it. Um, it's
[55:21] essentially a Deacto logo. And as we
[55:25] punt on the conversation about logos for
[55:27] the city, I feel like it's
[55:30] we're creating a logo.
[55:32] >> We don't want to talk about logos. So,
[55:34] thank you for
[55:35] >> Yeah. And I I mean, boy, I feel like a broken
[55:40] record at this time, but I I feel
[55:42] similarly that I would rather not have
[55:44] it and not just get a logo by accident
[55:49] um than then have it and um uh than do
[55:53] another logo separately, right? And so
[55:56] that's my
[55:58] feeling as well, but I don't I know that
[56:02] I'm sensitive to logo issues and so
[56:08] respond with the I mean discuss
[56:10] >> I was just gonna ask if you could let us
[56:12] know what the cultural arts
[56:13] >> commission so we had a lot of discussion
[56:16] about you know the use of logo and
[56:18] branding versus public art and um we
[56:22] realized that if we had even if we had a
[56:25] brand new logo the city logo would not
[56:29] be incorporated into a piece of public
[56:30] art um unless it was a commercial
[56:33] welcome sign or something like that but
[56:35] this is a very different medium. So we
[56:37] really feel strongly that it's a nod of
[56:40] whimsy like a monogram to this festival
[56:43] that the city is known for where it
[56:46] implies
[56:48] a whimsical Sherwood festival instead of
[56:51] explicitly having a Robin Hood based
[56:54] battalion. So
[56:56] yeah, I think the the consensus and the
[57:00] recommendation of the arts commission is
[57:01] just that it's completely different
[57:03] purposes and we would not ask an artist
[57:06] to incorporate
[57:08] a logo when we do rebrands.
[57:12] >> Yeah, 100%. I wouldn't ask an artist to
[57:14] put our logo on there. I think the point
[57:16] that I'm making and Dan's m or Doug's
[57:19] making is that
[57:21] if it feels like it's a logo, then it
[57:25] feels like
[57:27] kind of a deacto logo. You know what I
[57:30] mean? Like we're not saying that it's a
[57:31] logo, but
[57:34] you know, there's a lot of logos that
[57:36] have a stylized letter that is a little
[57:38] bit tweaked so they can trademark it and
[57:41] that is their logo, right? So, I know
[57:43] she's not saying it's a logo or you the
[57:45] artist's not saying it's a logo. The art
[57:47] commission is not saying it's a logo. It
[57:49] just looks
[57:52] >> Yes, it that's that's the only thing.
[57:55] We're not saying that you should include
[57:56] the city logo. We're just saying that it
[57:59] could be considered to be a city logo.
[58:02] So,
[58:02] >> and again, we're new to public art in
[58:04] the city. So,
[58:07] >> the shape of a bridge or a favorite duck
[58:10] or
[58:12] a dear like people are going to adopt
[58:15] what they are going to adopt
[58:18] I don't know as a beloved symbol but
[58:20] it's not the purpose of it
[58:29] » I just the more you talk about it not
[58:32] being a logo it sounds like you're
[58:34] wanting it to be the logo
[58:36] >> no I want us to have a discussion about
[58:38] the logo I understand that.
[58:40] >> Yes. No, I get what you're trying to do,
[58:42] but also like
[58:44] >> I don't know that anybody would have
[58:46] thought about it either. So
[58:49] >> that's kind of where I'm at. I when I
[58:50] looked at it never even
[59:03] » we had a motion.
[59:08] My motion was um I move to approve
[59:11] resolution 2026002
[59:14] accepting the cultural arts commission's
[59:15] recommendation for Western Bridge.
[59:19] >> Second motion to second. All those in
[59:21] favor of approving the resolution say I.
[59:24] >> I.
[59:25] >> All those opposed.
[59:27] >> All right. Motion passes. Thank you
[59:30] councel. Um do we have any citizen
[59:32] comments?
[59:32] >> I do not.
[59:33] >> And I don't see any online. So we are
[59:36] jermed. Thank you everybody.