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bad. Yeah. Did she. Does she

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Family is okay. Yeah.

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Getting the thumbs up.

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Look at my clock.

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This meeting shall come to

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order. Welcome to the Shoreview

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City Council meeting for

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Tuesday, SEPTEMBER 8th, 2026.

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The first thing we do is to

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have you stand and ask that you

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do the Pledge of Allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag

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of the United States of

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America, and to the Republic

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for which it stands. One

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nation. Under GOD, indivisible.

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With liberty and justice.

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For all.

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Thank you for coming tonight.

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And for those who are in

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attendance here, if you are

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interested. There are agendas

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on the podium at the back of

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the room.

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Um, our roll call, which is

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item number three on the

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agenda, should show that all

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council members are present

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tonight. And we will now look

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to approve tonight

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s agenda. So

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I look to council to see if

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anyone has anything they

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d like

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to add. Um, or suggest. And if

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not, or remove. And if not,

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ll look for a motion.

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Move to approve the agenda.

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Second. Mayor and Council, if I

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MAY, I think we

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re gonna remove

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the one item.

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I thought we were gonna do that

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when we got to the consent

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agenda.

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This is the overall agenda.

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Would we do it at this point?

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we just. If they

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remove something, we could do

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it right now at this point in

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time. All right. Apologies.

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remove item. Where

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d it go?

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H.H. There it is. Established

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parking restrictions on lead

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pack court. Uh, I had emailed

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the city manager last week and

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suggested we look at, um,

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amending, uh, the ordinance

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that

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s there. So. So we will

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see that back to us in the

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future. But if we could take it

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off tonight and we

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in the future.

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consent agenda, a look for an

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ll motion to approve.

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to approve with the removal of.

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council member Maryland. And a

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second by council member

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Gardner. All in favor of

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approving the agenda with that

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change, removing item h from

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the consent agenda, please say

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ll oppose same sign.

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Motion passes 5 to 0. Um, the

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next item on our agenda is, um,

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proclamations and recognitions.

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Today recognizing Constitution

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Week. So I will share that

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proclamation with the crowd.

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ve been doing

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this annually, or at least last

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year we did as well. So this is

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a City of Shoreview

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proclamation that recognizes

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Constitution Week, and that is

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SEPTEMBER 17th through 23rd,

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2026. So I

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ll read the

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proclamation at this point.

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Whereas SEPTEMBER 17th, 2026

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marks the 239th anniversary of

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the drafting of the

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Constitution of the United

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States of America by the

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Constitutional Convention. And

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Whereas in 1956, PRESIDENT

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Eisenhower and the Congress

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passed a resolution declaring

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SEPTEMBER 17th through 23rd as

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Constitution Week, and whereas

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it is fitting and proper to

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give official recognition to

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this magnificent document and

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its memorable anniversary. Now

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therefore, be it resolved that

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the Shoreview City Council

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designates SEPTEMBER 17th to

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the 23rd to be Constitution

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Week in the City of Shoreview

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and ask our citizens to

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reaffirm the ideals the framers

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of the Constitution had in 1787

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by vigilantly protecting the

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freedoms guaranteed to us

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through this guardian of our

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liberties.

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s a very sobering moment.

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daughters of the American

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Revolution chapter for bringing

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this to the Council for us to

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read this week.

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our agenda, which is number

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six, which is public comments.

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agenda or the meeting, rather,

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that, um, individuals can come

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and address the City Council on

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items that are not already on

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the agenda, because if they are

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on the agenda, you would have

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an opportunity to speak that

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point. Um, so anybody wanted to

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come up for a public comments?

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re asked to give your

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name, address and keep your

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comments to three minutes if

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possible. Um, and then

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likely will not get an answer

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today. But if there is follow

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up needed by staff, that will

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follow. So with that, I invite

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you to come up. If you

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public comment and thank you

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My name is Luther Dale and I

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live at 481 Sherwood Road. My

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wife and I love living in

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Shoreview for 38 years. I want

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to thank you, the Council, for

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developing a really

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comprehensive and timely

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climate action plan to guide

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future city operations. This

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plan comes at a time when

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efforts to address climate

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change are bubbling up in many

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forms. In this community, in

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businesses, institutions and

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among residents. Two brief

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stories to support that

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incarnation Lutheran Church,

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where I am a member, has been

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focused on making our facility

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more climate friendly through

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energy efficiency, led light

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bulbs, temperature management

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and new hvac system. And last

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NOVEMBER, we went live with a

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solar array that will provide

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91% or more of our energy needs

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and save $20,000 in energy

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expenses per year. There was

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some initial skepticism among

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our members, but that turned to

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real excitement in addressing

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climate change, and we think we

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have an exciting story to tell

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others about our experience.

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And then I want to tell you

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about my eagle. I

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m sorry, my

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ego. More. Just to be clear, as

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in, uh, 12 years ago, I

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replaced my gas powered, smelly

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mower with a battery powered

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Eagle lawnmower. Neighbors

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stopped by because it was so

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quiet. I told them my story. A

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mower with power beyond belief,

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with no maintenance cost, and

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then let them try it on my

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yard. Now, a number of egos are

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humming in the neighborhood.

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s clear from fires in Ely

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and extreme heat and floods

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around the world and in the us,

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and warnings from scientists

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that increasing an increasingly

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warmer climate will bring more

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and more extreme weather and

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destruction. So, beyond just

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focusing on city operations, I

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believe the council can provide

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a strong leadership using the

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work plan to build

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collaboration among residents,

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businesses and institutions. So

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we can all tell our stories

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about the many benefits of

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climate change and climate

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actions. Working together

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around common goals and sharing

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our experiences would be very

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powerful in addressing climate

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change. In Shoreview. Perhaps a

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power beyond belief. Thank you.

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My name is Sharon Coombs, com

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s draft climate action

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plan. I

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m heartened by the

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s climate actions to date.

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I like seeing the ev charger

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out there and in the solar

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panels. I am concerned, though,

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about the the plans timeline

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again this year. Has increasing

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co2 emissions and the second

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hottest heat wave in Minnesota

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history. The first one was in

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1936, and a neighbor of mine

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went to Como Park and was

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sleeping out there with many,

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many other people because it

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was too hot in their houses.

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And she ended up leaving and

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going to Oregon, and she never

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came back. We need to use more

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s energy to speed up

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successful installations of

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rooftop solar. So I

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m asking

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you to consider using an app

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called the Solar Automated

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Permit Processing App, or Solar

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App Plus, developed by the us

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Department of Energy in 2019

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and launched in 2021. Solar App

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Plus is an online automated

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permitting platform to ensure

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code compliance and promote

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safety. It is live in 300

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jurisdictions, including our

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neighbor, Mounds View, and has

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resulted in 29% fewer initial

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installation failures. With the

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climate crisis building, we

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don

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t have time for failures.

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The average time to process a

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permit for any kind of

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government permit is currently

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60 to 90 minutes, with solar

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app, the city

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s codes can be

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preloaded, so all the burden is

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on the installer to enter their

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information accurately. And

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that means an investment of

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just minutes on the part of the

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city. Nick Henley, Mounds View

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Building official, is happy to

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share his positive experience

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with solar app plus, grant

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money is available from the

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state to offset the cost of

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time invested in adopting the

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app, and solar App plus does

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not require abandonment of

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existing city systems and

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workflows, so I urge you, our

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City Manager and council

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members, to consider adding

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Solar App Plus to the Climate

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Action Plan. And I gave MR.

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Martin, um, a handout with

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frequently asked questions and

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contact information for Nick

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Henley at Mount View. And I

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have one more copy of that. If

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someone would like that. Thank

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you for your time.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much for the

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stories and this increasingly

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hot summer and the summer that

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doesn

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t seem to ever end. It

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s

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it

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s kind of timely, but I

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appreciate hearing the story

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too, about the electric or the

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lawnmower, and it

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s battery

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operated or electric. Okay,

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I

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ve heard about.

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Those. And I know for the

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snowblower, okay. Okay. And

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enables me to stay in my house

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because both are so light and

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maintenance free. And I

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ve

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changed out the those bolts

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that break on the door one

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time, you just flip over the

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thing that

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s right there. You

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change it. Much different from

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my previous. Okay.

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Thank you. We shouldn

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t have

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started a conversation. We have

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people streaming and watching,

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but they also shared the use of

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electric snow blowers or a

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battery operated snow blower as

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well. And just that, they

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re

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light and easy to use, so.

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Well, thank you very much.

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Appreciate it.

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Is there anyone else who would

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like to make public comments?

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Thank you for coming. And now

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we will move to um, council

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comments and. I think I

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m going

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to start today because I was so

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proud when I read this story

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about our seven lakes, um,

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development. And, um, that

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Shoreview has won, um, a

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redeveloped redevelopment

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award. Um, for excellence. Uh,

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it

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s an economic development.

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Services silver award for 2026

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by the International Economic

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Development Council, which is

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the largest membership

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organization for economic

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development professionals. Um,

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and the award was given to

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Shoreview for the redevelopment

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of the deluxe property, which,

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um, they mentioned a number of

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things that justified this

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award. Um, and some of the

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things that were mentioned were

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the forward thinking and rapid

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action, because despite

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attempting to keep in contact

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with Deluxe Corporation, it was

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somewhat of a surprise at how

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quickly they moved. Um, and the

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city was approached with a

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number of alternatives. Um, one

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of which was, uh, repeated

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request for a distribution

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center there. Um, and but. The

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we we held out for something

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better. Um, so let

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s see, we

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let

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s see when deluxe left, um,

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500 jobs left with them. But

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what

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s when Scannell bought the

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property, they were able to

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develop it to add 450,000ft of

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medtech, high tech and

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manufacturing space, which

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attracted two new businesses

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here as well, allowing as well

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as allowing power to expand.

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Actually, for the second time

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in our community and move into

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one of the spaces. So, um, I

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don

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t know if Niki Hill, our

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assistant community development

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director, wants to say anything

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more, but, um, that that

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department, your department did

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such a great job in very

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patiently, uh, working with,

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uh, Scannell was actually a

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good developer to work with,

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but we went through quite a few

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meetings and settling on what

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would be appropriate and making

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sure that the buildings looked

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good. And you know, that the

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site would actually be

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attractive. And, um, so I think

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it was a very favorable thing

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and added a lot to our city

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s

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tax base, including jobs. So I

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don

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t know if you want to add

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anything else. Nikki. Okay. So

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anyway, makes our community

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proud. It was it was, uh, just

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a very, I think, surprising

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award as well. So. Right. So,

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um, and then we found out

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tonight from our community

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development that we

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ve passed

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$95 million already in

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construction evaluation in 2026

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so far. So a lot of building

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activity going on. And one

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thing that is probably highly

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visible if you

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ve driven by

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6.94 and rice is the crew

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development that

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s going up at

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that corner. And also you

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ll

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notice the big structure

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cement, which will hopefully be

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the site of a restaurant at

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some point. So, um, that

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s

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going up, I think, as well as a

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lot of foundation work before

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winter and the project will be

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done next year. Um, also wanted

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to mention that we recently

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added the city recently added

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as part of our Master Parks

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plan, uh, playground in

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Shamrock Park in the north. Um,

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northwestern part of the city.

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But you

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ll notice if you drive

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by there, this some activity

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around there. They

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re seating

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around the playground to to

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finish off the look. But it

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s a

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really nice playground and

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makes the park look a little

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fresher, I guess. And then

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also, I wanted to mention that,

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um, the first day of Kids

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Corner preschool is a week from

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next Monday, rather so, which

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is Monday, SEPTEMBER 14th. So.

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And I think that

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s all I have.

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But anyway, so it

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s something

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to be proud of. So I had to

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share that. So I

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m looking at

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Council member Marilyn. Do you

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want to start with comments?

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I can do that. Um, I just

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wanted to mention, um, of

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course, as everyone is aware,

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this is the first week of

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school for the Mountainview

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School District, and, um, just

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reminding people to be

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diligent, cautious. Um,

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apprehensive of kids out

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getting on the bus, walking,

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riding their bikes, trying to

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00:18:08,968 --> 00:18:11,404
get to school on time. And and

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00:18:11,404 --> 00:18:13,339
as the the time changes and as

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it gets darker longer in the

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morning and earlier at night,

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just to be cautious watching

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for those kids. Watch for

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those, um, red flashing lights

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and the stop sign arm coming

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00:18:26,586 --> 00:18:28,488
out of the bus. And, um, just

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be extra careful to stand here

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so our kids can get to school

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safely.

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Um.

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Thank you, Councilmember

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Strayhorn.

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Uh, mayor, although we are just

555
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barely adjusting to the fact

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that fall is starting here

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00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:41,601
tonight, we

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re being serenaded

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with some holiday music. I

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don

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t know if it

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s coming

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00:18:46,539 --> 00:18:47,974
through on the, uh, on the live

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00:18:47,974 --> 00:18:48,808
feed, but, uh, here in the

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00:18:48,808 --> 00:18:49,909
council chambers, we can

566
00:18:49,909 --> 00:18:51,378
definitely hear the strawberry

567
00:18:51,378 --> 00:18:52,512
Northern Lights variety band,

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00:18:52,512 --> 00:18:54,881
uh, across the hall having

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their first rehearsal of the of

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the fall winter term. And, uh,

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I

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ll be there in my usual spot

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00:19:00,220 --> 00:19:01,354
in the trumpet section next

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00:19:01,354 --> 00:19:01,588
week, but, uh, had to MISS

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00:19:01,588 --> 00:19:02,856
Tonight

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00:19:02,856 --> 00:19:04,958
s rehearsal to be here.

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Uh, but just my annual reminder

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that there are still, uh, space

579
00:19:08,361 --> 00:19:09,629
spaces open. And some of the

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sections of the band, uh, I

581
00:19:09,796 --> 00:19:10,764
don

582
00:19:10,764 --> 00:19:12,733
t exactly know where there

583
00:19:12,733 --> 00:19:14,568
are and are not opening. I know

584
00:19:14,568 --> 00:19:16,303
that my my nephew who plays

585
00:19:16,303 --> 00:19:17,171
flute, uh, was looking to see

586
00:19:17,171 --> 00:19:18,905
if they had room for him. And

587
00:19:18,905 --> 00:19:21,641
so I know we have already more

588
00:19:21,641 --> 00:19:23,310
flutes, uh, than we can quite

589
00:19:23,310 --> 00:19:24,678
handle, but, um, but I know we

590
00:19:24,678 --> 00:19:27,547
need percussion. I know we

591
00:19:27,547 --> 00:19:29,750
always need, uh, low brass. So,

592
00:19:29,750 --> 00:19:32,621
um, if you are interested, uh,

593
00:19:32,621 --> 00:19:34,188
go to the snl and and, uh, get

594
00:19:34,188 --> 00:19:34,922
in touch with the board, and

595
00:19:34,922 --> 00:19:35,956
they will let you know if we

596
00:19:35,956 --> 00:19:36,991
have room for the particular

597
00:19:36,991 --> 00:19:39,991
instrument. You MAY want to

598
00:19:40,127 --> 00:19:42,262
play. Um, then I also wanted to

599
00:19:42,262 --> 00:19:42,663
mention, um, one item that

600
00:19:42,663 --> 00:19:44,663
s on

601
00:19:44,998 --> 00:19:46,567
our, uh, consent agenda a

602
00:19:46,567 --> 00:19:47,167
little bit later, which is, uh,

603
00:19:47,167 --> 00:19:48,680
items that we don

604
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:49,470
t usually

605
00:19:49,470 --> 00:19:51,138
have much discussion of or

606
00:19:51,138 --> 00:19:52,206
staff presentations there, uh,

607
00:19:52,206 --> 00:19:53,641
routine things generally that

608
00:19:53,641 --> 00:19:54,675
are approved by one motion. But

609
00:19:54,675 --> 00:19:56,243
I wish I had a chance to

610
00:19:56,243 --> 00:19:58,479
mention this. Well, uh, MISTER

611
00:19:58,479 --> 00:19:59,981
Dale and MISS Coombs were here.

612
00:19:59,981 --> 00:20:01,810
Um, but one of the items on the

613
00:20:01,810 --> 00:20:02,116
consent agenda tonight, I just

614
00:20:02,116 --> 00:20:03,984
think should should be

615
00:20:03,984 --> 00:20:06,187
recognized is, uh, that we

616
00:20:06,187 --> 00:20:08,220
received a grant from the solar

617
00:20:08,220 --> 00:20:10,570
on Public Buildings program to

618
00:20:10,570 --> 00:20:11,392
put solar panels on the Bobby

619
00:20:11,392 --> 00:20:11,525
Tyson Park building. So we

620
00:20:11,525 --> 00:20:13,525
re

621
00:20:13,894 --> 00:20:15,997
looking forward to to that and

622
00:20:15,997 --> 00:20:17,231
saving the city a lot of money

623
00:20:17,231 --> 00:20:18,899
on the installation so that we

624
00:20:18,899 --> 00:20:19,967
can save a lot of money in the

625
00:20:19,967 --> 00:20:21,135
future. On electricity.

626
00:20:21,135 --> 00:20:23,135
So great, great.

627
00:20:23,238 --> 00:20:24,872
So congratulations to the city

628
00:20:24,872 --> 00:20:26,540
staff for securing that.

629
00:20:26,540 --> 00:20:28,540
Thank you.

630
00:20:28,876 --> 00:20:29,430
Council Member Gardner I didn

631
00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:29,677
t

632
00:20:29,677 --> 00:20:30,178
know if you were ready.

633
00:20:30,178 --> 00:20:32,178
Councilmember.

634
00:20:33,810 --> 00:20:34,282
Thank you. I, I know what

635
00:20:34,282 --> 00:20:34,449
Councilmember Doan has and he

636
00:20:34,449 --> 00:20:35,616
s

637
00:20:35,616 --> 00:20:36,951
been crossing things out as

638
00:20:36,951 --> 00:20:37,118
other people have spoken. So I

639
00:20:37,118 --> 00:20:37,985
don

640
00:20:37,985 --> 00:20:38,386
t want to I don

641
00:20:38,386 --> 00:20:40,255
t want to

642
00:20:40,255 --> 00:20:42,924
run out. Um, well thanks,

643
00:20:42,924 --> 00:20:44,225
everybody. Um, so, uh, some of

644
00:20:44,225 --> 00:20:45,626
you know, when I was in the

645
00:20:45,626 --> 00:20:47,829
legislature, I represented, uh,

646
00:20:47,829 --> 00:20:50,980
half of North Oaks. So I got to

647
00:20:50,980 --> 00:20:52,498
know, uh, their institutions

648
00:20:52,567 --> 00:20:53,868
and, uh, Wiley weighs very

649
00:20:53,868 --> 00:20:54,680
well. And one of the things

650
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:54,736
they

651
00:20:54,736 --> 00:20:56,838
ve had is a great

652
00:20:56,838 --> 00:20:58,239
tradition for the last few

653
00:20:58,239 --> 00:20:59,374
decades as their North Oaks

654
00:20:59,374 --> 00:21:01,409
rummage sale, which has a

655
00:21:01,409 --> 00:21:03,711
Shoreview connection. Uh, so

656
00:21:03,711 --> 00:21:06,140
they clear out their houses and

657
00:21:06,140 --> 00:21:07,849
cabins and the like, uh, and

658
00:21:07,849 --> 00:21:09,317
they have pretty good, uh,

659
00:21:09,317 --> 00:21:10,418
variety of stuff, but they need

660
00:21:10,418 --> 00:21:10,618
a place to do it. So they

661
00:21:10,618 --> 00:21:12,187
ve

662
00:21:12,187 --> 00:21:13,288
got to come to Shoreview, to

663
00:21:13,288 --> 00:21:14,356
the ice arena across the

664
00:21:14,356 --> 00:21:15,523
street, and you probably can

665
00:21:15,523 --> 00:21:15,724
see the marquee that shows

666
00:21:15,724 --> 00:21:16,458
they

667
00:21:16,458 --> 00:21:17,250
re open from I think it

668
00:21:17,250 --> 00:21:19,250
s

669
00:21:19,527 --> 00:21:21,129
8 to 5 on Saturday and 8 to 2

670
00:21:21,129 --> 00:21:22,864
on Sunday. So if you are going

671
00:21:22,864 --> 00:21:23,932
to, uh, the our destination

672
00:21:23,932 --> 00:21:26,101
playground or the community

673
00:21:26,101 --> 00:21:28,904
center, uh, you might want to

674
00:21:28,904 --> 00:21:30,572
go that back way by Mound

675
00:21:30,572 --> 00:21:31,773
Avenue. Um, uh, there are a lot

676
00:21:31,773 --> 00:21:33,642
of people with trucks who get

677
00:21:33,642 --> 00:21:36,111
there, get their loot, and take

678
00:21:36,111 --> 00:21:37,245
up some space. So, uh, parking

679
00:21:37,245 --> 00:21:38,614
could be an issue. I also

680
00:21:38,614 --> 00:21:40,480
wanted to thank the staff for

681
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:41,216
the award over the Seven Lakes

682
00:21:41,216 --> 00:21:41,350
development. I see they

683
00:21:41,350 --> 00:21:42,484
re

684
00:21:42,484 --> 00:21:43,452
going to accept an award in New

685
00:21:43,452 --> 00:21:45,287
Orleans during hurricane

686
00:21:45,287 --> 00:21:46,122
season, which is good to get a

687
00:21:46,122 --> 00:21:46,955
good deal and having

688
00:21:46,955 --> 00:21:47,990
conferences then that

689
00:21:47,990 --> 00:21:49,759
s great.

690
00:21:49,759 --> 00:21:52,610
Uh, but I did check with two of

691
00:21:52,610 --> 00:21:53,228
those, uh, building owners

692
00:21:53,228 --> 00:21:56,310
after it was done. When we did

693
00:21:56,310 --> 00:21:58,167
the groundbreaking. And as you

694
00:21:58,167 --> 00:21:59,134
nagged them, mayor and me as a

695
00:21:59,134 --> 00:22:01,134
private citizen, those

696
00:22:01,604 --> 00:22:02,237
buildings are solar ready. So,

697
00:22:02,237 --> 00:22:02,938
uh, when they

698
00:22:02,938 --> 00:22:04,938
re ready, they

699
00:22:05,941 --> 00:22:09,780
can plug and play. Uh, say, I

700
00:22:09,780 --> 00:22:09,945
did get a, um, uh, just before

701
00:22:09,945 --> 00:22:10,613
i came over here this

702
00:22:10,613 --> 00:22:11,180
afternoon, so I didn

703
00:22:11,180 --> 00:22:13,150
t have

704
00:22:13,150 --> 00:22:14,283
time to put it in my Monday

705
00:22:14,283 --> 00:22:14,516
email questions to MR.

706
00:22:14,516 --> 00:22:16,452
Martin

707
00:22:16,452 --> 00:22:18,721
s, but I did get an

708
00:22:18,721 --> 00:22:20,220
inquiry or a concern from

709
00:22:20,220 --> 00:22:21,256
residents who live near

710
00:22:21,256 --> 00:22:21,590
Presbyterian Church of the way,

711
00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:22,325
where there

712
00:22:22,325 --> 00:22:23,926
s a fair park and

713
00:22:23,926 --> 00:22:25,829
ride. Everyone certainly loves

714
00:22:25,829 --> 00:22:27,630
the fair and the opportunity to

715
00:22:27,630 --> 00:22:30,990
take the buses, but I happen to

716
00:22:30,990 --> 00:22:31,968
be in that neighborhood

717
00:22:31,968 --> 00:22:32,402
visiting and holy goodness, my

718
00:22:32,402 --> 00:22:32,968
goodness, there

719
00:22:32,968 --> 00:22:34,403
s a lot of

720
00:22:34,403 --> 00:22:35,438
vehicles and we have city signs

721
00:22:35,438 --> 00:22:37,607
on one side of the street to

722
00:22:37,607 --> 00:22:39,275
keep one lane clear. And, uh,

723
00:22:39,275 --> 00:22:41,210
but they all do seem, uh,

724
00:22:41,210 --> 00:22:42,979
stressed out, so I, I wonder if

725
00:22:42,979 --> 00:22:44,280
we might have a conversation

726
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,815
about that at some point. Uh,

727
00:22:45,815 --> 00:22:46,549
while the iron is hot. Just

728
00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:47,684
having now that we

729
00:22:47,684 --> 00:22:49,684
re in our

730
00:22:50,620 --> 00:22:50,854
fair glow. Still, the sweet

731
00:22:50,854 --> 00:22:52,722
Martha

732
00:22:52,722 --> 00:22:53,156
s cookies. Uh, good

733
00:22:53,156 --> 00:22:54,557
feeling hasn

734
00:22:54,557 --> 00:22:56,125
t worn off yet. We

735
00:22:56,125 --> 00:22:57,426
might discuss it, but.

736
00:22:57,426 --> 00:22:57,793
The parking in the

737
00:22:57,793 --> 00:22:58,928
neighborhood.

738
00:22:58,928 --> 00:23:00,196
Just, uh, people are concerned

739
00:23:00,196 --> 00:23:02,980
about people leaving staff

740
00:23:02,980 --> 00:23:04,670
trash behind. Parking really

741
00:23:04,670 --> 00:23:06,336
close, blocking parts of

742
00:23:06,336 --> 00:23:06,936
driveways and mailboxes and the

743
00:23:06,936 --> 00:23:07,337
like so people can

744
00:23:07,337 --> 00:23:09,138
t get their

745
00:23:09,138 --> 00:23:10,390
mail. Um, I don

746
00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:11,107
t know. What do

747
00:23:11,107 --> 00:23:12,308
we need to discuss it here

748
00:23:12,308 --> 00:23:13,676
about it? Something in our

749
00:23:13,676 --> 00:23:15,211
regular memo would be just

750
00:23:15,211 --> 00:23:16,346
great about how that

751
00:23:16,346 --> 00:23:17,647
s going. I

752
00:23:17,647 --> 00:23:19,150
did see that Falcon Heights is

753
00:23:19,150 --> 00:23:21,518
charging people to use their

754
00:23:21,518 --> 00:23:22,719
streets. Uh, and are bringing

755
00:23:22,719 --> 00:23:24,540
in quite a bundle. I have no

756
00:23:24,540 --> 00:23:25,555
idea how they do it. Or they

757
00:23:25,555 --> 00:23:27,955
have portable meters or

758
00:23:28,358 --> 00:23:29,659
somebody standing with a square

759
00:23:29,659 --> 00:23:32,362
device on their phones and

760
00:23:32,362 --> 00:23:33,997
ringing people up. But, um,

761
00:23:33,997 --> 00:23:34,865
they finished it, figured out

762
00:23:34,865 --> 00:23:36,166
how to use it to their

763
00:23:36,166 --> 00:23:37,734
advantage. So that

764
00:23:37,734 --> 00:23:38,435
s it. Uh,

765
00:23:38,435 --> 00:23:39,135
mayor.

766
00:23:39,135 --> 00:23:41,135
Okay.

767
00:23:41,338 --> 00:23:44,241
And we did. I got a couple of

768
00:23:44,241 --> 00:23:45,876
complaints, too. On on the

769
00:23:45,876 --> 00:23:48,278
parking there. So I took a

770
00:23:48,278 --> 00:23:49,747
couple drives through, and it

771
00:23:49,747 --> 00:23:51,214
was earlier in the morning. So

772
00:23:51,214 --> 00:23:52,949
the park and ride was getting

773
00:23:52,949 --> 00:23:54,151
full, but they were obeying

774
00:23:54,151 --> 00:23:55,919
because I think the first

775
00:23:55,919 --> 00:23:57,587
Friday of the fair was when

776
00:23:57,587 --> 00:23:59,623
this gentleman and they already

777
00:23:59,623 --> 00:23:59,790
had all the construction, I

778
00:23:59,790 --> 00:24:00,190
don

779
00:24:00,190 --> 00:24:00,591
t know what they

780
00:24:00,591 --> 00:24:02,292
re doing

781
00:24:02,292 --> 00:24:02,493
on Lexington Avenue, but

782
00:24:02,493 --> 00:24:03,660
they

783
00:24:03,660 --> 00:24:05,963
re their streets are

784
00:24:05,963 --> 00:24:07,497
blocked at Lexington. I think

785
00:24:07,497 --> 00:24:07,865
this was Edgewater Street.

786
00:24:07,865 --> 00:24:09,865
Oh, yes.

787
00:24:10,567 --> 00:24:11,735
But I drove up and down, and at

788
00:24:11,735 --> 00:24:12,770
least when I did, which was

789
00:24:12,770 --> 00:24:14,505
Friday morning, I must have

790
00:24:14,505 --> 00:24:16,140
heard from him Thursday. Um,

791
00:24:16,140 --> 00:24:18,750
everybody was obeying. They

792
00:24:18,750 --> 00:24:20,144
were parking at least where

793
00:24:20,144 --> 00:24:21,912
there were not signs. However,

794
00:24:21,912 --> 00:24:24,748
it was early and it was also

795
00:24:24,748 --> 00:24:25,616
trash day, so it was noisy and

796
00:24:25,616 --> 00:24:26,383
crowded and you couldn

797
00:24:26,383 --> 00:24:28,383
t get

798
00:24:29,190 --> 00:24:30,454
across onto Lexington. So, um,

799
00:24:30,454 --> 00:24:33,491
and I did drive through another

800
00:24:33,491 --> 00:24:34,892
day and again, no one was, um,

801
00:24:34,892 --> 00:24:37,610
they were parking legally. But

802
00:24:37,610 --> 00:24:38,763
what I did ask him because I

803
00:24:38,763 --> 00:24:39,597
talked to MR. Martin and they

804
00:24:39,597 --> 00:24:41,650
had been working with the

805
00:24:41,650 --> 00:24:43,300
Ramsey County sheriff on that

806
00:24:43,300 --> 00:24:44,735
as well. City staff. So I let

807
00:24:44,735 --> 00:24:47,400
him know if he could. If

808
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,139
anybody is, you know, blocking

809
00:24:48,139 --> 00:24:49,573
a drive or doing anything

810
00:24:49,573 --> 00:24:52,476
illegal to go ahead and give a

811
00:24:52,476 --> 00:24:54,345
call to the sheriff. So but I

812
00:24:54,345 --> 00:24:56,180
think it was many factors which

813
00:24:56,180 --> 00:24:56,781
just made a,

814
00:24:56,781 --> 00:24:58,316
Um.

815
00:24:58,316 --> 00:24:58,783
Very frustrating experience for

816
00:24:58,783 --> 00:25:00,783
the neighborhood.

817
00:25:01,786 --> 00:25:03,588
So, yeah. Councilmember Dunn.

818
00:25:03,588 --> 00:25:04,522
Yes, thank you, mayor, uh, and

819
00:25:04,522 --> 00:25:06,457
thank you to other council

820
00:25:06,457 --> 00:25:09,260
members who have whittled my

821
00:25:09,260 --> 00:25:09,594
list down from 7 to 4, which is

822
00:25:09,594 --> 00:25:10,194
great.

823
00:25:10,194 --> 00:25:12,194
Welcome.

824
00:25:12,697 --> 00:25:16,701
Um, so, uh, first I just wanted

825
00:25:16,701 --> 00:25:18,102
to, uh, reiterate, uh, what,

826
00:25:18,102 --> 00:25:19,704
uh, Council Member Merlyn

827
00:25:19,704 --> 00:25:21,806
mentioned with the first day of

828
00:25:21,806 --> 00:25:23,641
school for both the Roseville

829
00:25:23,641 --> 00:25:25,843
school district and the Mounds

830
00:25:25,843 --> 00:25:28,790
View School District and safety

831
00:25:28,790 --> 00:25:29,414
out there for kids and families

832
00:25:29,414 --> 00:25:32,250
who are traveling to school and

833
00:25:32,250 --> 00:25:33,818
traveling back home. Um, as a

834
00:25:33,818 --> 00:25:35,353
transportation engineer,

835
00:25:35,353 --> 00:25:37,689
definitely think a lot about

836
00:25:37,689 --> 00:25:39,357
that. Um, and work with a lot

837
00:25:39,357 --> 00:25:40,825
of school districts to make

838
00:25:40,825 --> 00:25:43,828
sure that kids are getting to

839
00:25:43,828 --> 00:25:45,930
school and home safely. Um,

840
00:25:45,930 --> 00:25:48,767
related to that, uh, the mayor

841
00:25:48,767 --> 00:25:51,303
and I had the honor of

842
00:25:51,303 --> 00:25:53,703
attending the Roseville Area

843
00:25:53,805 --> 00:25:56,205
Schools staff workshop kickoff

844
00:25:56,441 --> 00:25:58,209
event last week. Um, and they

845
00:25:58,209 --> 00:26:00,312
had a wonderful speaker who I

846
00:26:00,312 --> 00:26:03,615
will recall the name here just

847
00:26:03,615 --> 00:26:05,917
to, uh, it was, uh, Doctor

848
00:26:05,917 --> 00:26:06,919
Gloria Ladson Billings, uh,

849
00:26:06,919 --> 00:26:09,187
from the University of

850
00:26:09,187 --> 00:26:10,789
Wisconsin at Madison. And she

851
00:26:10,789 --> 00:26:11,256
spoke really powerfully about

852
00:26:11,256 --> 00:26:13,125
every adult

853
00:26:13,125 --> 00:26:15,600
s responsibility to

854
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,329
help all kids succeed in our

855
00:26:17,329 --> 00:26:19,365
schools. And it was really an

856
00:26:19,365 --> 00:26:21,765
inspirational keynote and just

857
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,703
really want to extend, um, our

858
00:26:24,703 --> 00:26:26,500
appreciation to both the Mounds

859
00:26:26,500 --> 00:26:28,400
View and Roseville school

860
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,242
districts and their teachers

861
00:26:30,242 --> 00:26:32,311
and the administration for

862
00:26:32,311 --> 00:26:34,546
providing an amazing academic

863
00:26:34,546 --> 00:26:36,181
experience for our young people

864
00:26:36,181 --> 00:26:37,583
and for our families, because

865
00:26:37,583 --> 00:26:38,851
we all know that school

866
00:26:38,851 --> 00:26:40,986
districts are an important part

867
00:26:40,986 --> 00:26:43,622
of our community, and they also

868
00:26:43,622 --> 00:26:45,324
help with property values. And

869
00:26:45,324 --> 00:26:47,126
so people want to come here.

870
00:26:47,126 --> 00:26:47,960
And one of the main reasons is

871
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:48,994
because of the quality of

872
00:26:48,994 --> 00:26:51,764
schools that we have. So thank

873
00:26:51,764 --> 00:26:54,166
you to them. Um, second, I

874
00:26:54,166 --> 00:26:56,202
wanted to share that the tunnel

875
00:26:56,202 --> 00:26:58,304
under highway 96, if you have

876
00:26:58,304 --> 00:27:00,539
not visited yet, uh, the

877
00:27:00,539 --> 00:27:02,939
pollinator mural, the expanse

878
00:27:02,942 --> 00:27:04,410
that extends nine feet tall and

879
00:27:04,410 --> 00:27:08,100
the ceiling is now all painted

880
00:27:08,147 --> 00:27:10,783
as well, uh, is complete. And,

881
00:27:10,783 --> 00:27:12,184
uh, open for business for folks

882
00:27:12,184 --> 00:27:13,986
to travel through and

883
00:27:13,986 --> 00:27:16,220
appreciate and admire. Just

884
00:27:16,220 --> 00:27:19,191
really thank, uh, not only the

885
00:27:19,191 --> 00:27:21,627
city bike and head committee,

886
00:27:21,627 --> 00:27:23,529
uh, but also Gallery 96 and the

887
00:27:23,529 --> 00:27:25,264
Shoreview Community Foundation

888
00:27:25,264 --> 00:27:27,233
and the Rice Creek Watershed

889
00:27:27,233 --> 00:27:28,501
District for all coming

890
00:27:28,501 --> 00:27:30,901
together and make that

891
00:27:30,970 --> 00:27:32,839
beautiful, uh, art, public art

892
00:27:32,839 --> 00:27:34,607
for our community. Uh, a

893
00:27:34,607 --> 00:27:36,607
possibility. So really

894
00:27:36,709 --> 00:27:36,976
appreciate that. If you haven

895
00:27:36,976 --> 00:27:38,611
t

896
00:27:38,611 --> 00:27:40,513
seen it, definitely go and take

897
00:27:40,513 --> 00:27:41,648
a selfie and post it on and tag

898
00:27:41,648 --> 00:27:43,983
the city on it and let us know

899
00:27:43,983 --> 00:27:44,584
what you think. Um, the third

900
00:27:44,584 --> 00:27:45,518
item here is i

901
00:27:45,518 --> 00:27:45,718
ve gotten just

902
00:27:45,718 --> 00:27:47,253
as I

903
00:27:47,253 --> 00:27:50,253
ve been out in community,

904
00:27:50,824 --> 00:27:52,859
a few questions about, um, the

905
00:27:52,859 --> 00:27:54,828
old Burger King site, uh, as

906
00:27:54,828 --> 00:27:55,829
well as the Victoria Fire

907
00:27:55,829 --> 00:27:56,429
Station and what

908
00:27:56,429 --> 00:27:57,430
s happening

909
00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:57,897
with redevelopment. They

910
00:27:57,897 --> 00:27:59,897
re

911
00:28:00,667 --> 00:28:02,535
excited to report that at least

912
00:28:02,535 --> 00:28:03,203
with the Burger King site, that

913
00:28:03,203 --> 00:28:03,637
the new building that

914
00:28:03,637 --> 00:28:04,938
s going

915
00:28:04,938 --> 00:28:05,572
up is a Chipotle. So that

916
00:28:05,572 --> 00:28:06,406
s,

917
00:28:06,406 --> 00:28:08,406
uh, they

918
00:28:08,508 --> 00:28:08,775
re going to be a to

919
00:28:08,775 --> 00:28:10,410
Chipotle

920
00:28:10,410 --> 00:28:12,445
s in Shoreview. Um,

921
00:28:12,445 --> 00:28:14,247
and then with the Victoria Fire

922
00:28:14,247 --> 00:28:15,382
Station that uh, good things

923
00:28:15,382 --> 00:28:16,783
are happening there as well,

924
00:28:16,783 --> 00:28:19,986
and that the city is in the

925
00:28:19,986 --> 00:28:22,386
process of negotiating a

926
00:28:22,689 --> 00:28:24,291
agreement with a future, uh,

927
00:28:24,291 --> 00:28:25,580
owner of the site. So

928
00:28:25,580 --> 00:28:25,625
unfortunately, I can

929
00:28:25,625 --> 00:28:27,260
t share

930
00:28:27,260 --> 00:28:29,329
who that is yet. Until that

931
00:28:29,329 --> 00:28:31,329
those negotiations are

932
00:28:31,632 --> 00:28:33,600
finalized and completed. But

933
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,340
just wanted to share that. I

934
00:28:34,340 --> 00:28:36,340
m

935
00:28:36,136 --> 00:28:36,336
particularly very excited for

936
00:28:36,336 --> 00:28:38,336
what

937
00:28:38,539 --> 00:28:40,574
s to come for the next

938
00:28:40,574 --> 00:28:42,977
iteration and the reuse of the

939
00:28:42,977 --> 00:28:44,444
Victoria Avenue fire station.

940
00:28:44,444 --> 00:28:46,613
Uh, and then last but not

941
00:28:46,613 --> 00:28:49,517
least, wanted to share that

942
00:28:49,517 --> 00:28:51,917
the, uh Shoreview Community

943
00:28:51,919 --> 00:28:53,520
Foundation, in partnership with

944
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:54,989
the City Park and Rec, is

945
00:28:54,989 --> 00:28:57,389
hosting a pickleball tournament

946
00:28:58,492 --> 00:29:00,961
and family fun Day on Saturday,

947
00:29:00,961 --> 00:29:02,329
SEPTEMBER 19th. Um, there are

948
00:29:02,329 --> 00:29:04,329
still, uh, registration

949
00:29:04,665 --> 00:29:06,330
available for teams of both

950
00:29:06,330 --> 00:29:08,235
beginners who will play a

951
00:29:08,235 --> 00:29:10,137
bracket in the morning and more

952
00:29:10,137 --> 00:29:12,137
advanced pickleball players

953
00:29:12,139 --> 00:29:14,800
who, you know, those semi-pro

954
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,977
types that, uh, play at Bobby

955
00:29:16,977 --> 00:29:17,178
Tyson Park, um, that, uh,

956
00:29:17,178 --> 00:29:18,450
there

957
00:29:18,450 --> 00:29:20,481
s still room in the

958
00:29:20,481 --> 00:29:22,183
advanced bracket as well. And,

959
00:29:22,183 --> 00:29:23,718
uh, that event is at Bobby

960
00:29:23,718 --> 00:29:24,418
Tyson Park. And there

961
00:29:24,418 --> 00:29:26,418
s also

962
00:29:27,221 --> 00:29:28,789
other, uh, kind of ancillary

963
00:29:28,789 --> 00:29:30,892
events with yard games. Food

964
00:29:30,892 --> 00:29:32,960
trucks, face painting, uh, kite

965
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:33,961
making, uh, and flying in

966
00:29:33,961 --> 00:29:35,296
addition to the pickleball to

967
00:29:35,296 --> 00:29:37,198
make it a full experience for

968
00:29:37,198 --> 00:29:37,498
the family. So, uh, sign up if

969
00:29:37,498 --> 00:29:38,266
you haven

970
00:29:38,266 --> 00:29:38,399
t done it. If you

971
00:29:38,399 --> 00:29:39,934
re

972
00:29:39,934 --> 00:29:41,436
not a pickleball player and are

973
00:29:41,436 --> 00:29:42,870
interested in being in the

974
00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:43,104
beginner bracket, do that. Or

975
00:29:43,104 --> 00:29:43,838
if you

976
00:29:43,838 --> 00:29:45,573
re just going to come

977
00:29:45,573 --> 00:29:47,842
for the family fun day, come

978
00:29:47,842 --> 00:29:50,242
enjoy beautiful fall. Uh,

979
00:29:50,878 --> 00:29:52,780
Saturday at one of our newly

980
00:29:52,780 --> 00:29:53,548
renovated parks at Bobby Tyson.

981
00:29:53,548 --> 00:29:54,820
Thank you, mayor.

982
00:29:54,820 --> 00:29:54,883
And what. I

983
00:29:54,883 --> 00:29:55,850
m sorry, what was

984
00:29:55,850 --> 00:29:58,250
the date on that?

985
00:29:58,653 --> 00:29:59,320
That is Saturday, SEPTEMBER

986
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,388
19th.

987
00:30:00,388 --> 00:30:01,256
Okay, thanks.

988
00:30:01,256 --> 00:30:02,924
Good. Great.

989
00:30:02,924 --> 00:30:04,924
During Constitution week.

990
00:30:05,460 --> 00:30:06,895
There you go.

991
00:30:06,895 --> 00:30:09,230
All right. Well, thanks for

992
00:30:09,230 --> 00:30:10,999
those comments. Um, the next

993
00:30:10,999 --> 00:30:12,667
item on the agenda is the

994
00:30:12,667 --> 00:30:13,869
consent agenda. And as

995
00:30:13,869 --> 00:30:15,170
Councilmember Springer said,

996
00:30:15,170 --> 00:30:16,905
these are items that are

997
00:30:16,905 --> 00:30:19,207
considered routine and can be

998
00:30:19,207 --> 00:30:20,709
enacted by one motion. And with

999
00:30:20,709 --> 00:30:23,478
the change in the agenda, we

1000
00:30:23,478 --> 00:30:25,247
can have a vote on items eight,

1001
00:30:25,247 --> 00:30:28,847
eight through eight g and ai

1002
00:30:29,584 --> 00:30:29,718
and eight j in one motion. So

1003
00:30:29,718 --> 00:30:31,119
I

1004
00:30:31,119 --> 00:30:31,386
m looking to council to see

1005
00:30:31,386 --> 00:30:32,621
if there

1006
00:30:32,621 --> 00:30:33,540
s any other changes.

1007
00:30:33,540 --> 00:30:34,990
If not, I

1008
00:30:34,990 --> 00:30:35,390
ll look for a motion.

1009
00:30:35,390 --> 00:30:36,910
Mayor, I

1010
00:30:36,910 --> 00:30:39,910
d like to make a

1011
00:30:39,427 --> 00:30:42,597
motion to approve items eight a

1012
00:30:42,597 --> 00:30:43,231
through eight g and eight I and

1013
00:30:43,231 --> 00:30:45,231
eight j.

1014
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,902
Okay, second.

1015
00:30:46,902 --> 00:30:49,237
I think I heard Corey spring

1016
00:30:49,237 --> 00:30:50,172
corns first. So, um, we have a

1017
00:30:50,172 --> 00:30:51,473
motion by council member

1018
00:30:51,473 --> 00:30:53,442
Marilyn and a second by council

1019
00:30:53,442 --> 00:30:55,978
member Spring Horne to approve

1020
00:30:55,978 --> 00:30:56,712
those items. Um, all in favor,

1021
00:30:56,712 --> 00:30:57,346
please say aye.

1022
00:30:57,346 --> 00:30:59,346
Aye, aye.

1023
00:31:00,215 --> 00:31:03,215
All opposed. Same sign. Motion

1024
00:31:04,153 --> 00:31:06,188
passes 5 to 0. We do not have

1025
00:31:06,188 --> 00:31:08,588
any public hearings tonight,

1026
00:31:08,791 --> 00:31:10,759
but we do have five items of

1027
00:31:10,759 --> 00:31:13,595
general business. And the first

1028
00:31:13,595 --> 00:31:15,331
one is, uh, item number ten a,

1029
00:31:15,331 --> 00:31:17,731
which is rental license

1030
00:31:19,735 --> 00:31:21,203
revocations for 1064 1062 Glenn

1031
00:31:21,203 --> 00:31:23,500
Hill Road. And our assistant

1032
00:31:23,500 --> 00:31:24,540
community development director,

1033
00:31:24,540 --> 00:31:26,442
Nikki Hill, will present on

1034
00:31:26,442 --> 00:31:27,576
this.

1035
00:31:27,576 --> 00:31:30,179
Thank you. Mayor. Members of

1036
00:31:30,179 --> 00:31:31,747
the council, I we are here for

1037
00:31:31,747 --> 00:31:34,147
a rental license revocation

1038
00:31:34,283 --> 00:31:36,683
hearing for 1062 and 1064 Glenn

1039
00:31:36,719 --> 00:31:39,422
Hill Road. The property is in

1040
00:31:39,422 --> 00:31:41,524
southern Shoreview. This is

1041
00:31:41,524 --> 00:31:43,426
Lexington Avenue here on the

1042
00:31:43,426 --> 00:31:45,561
west side or on the left. And

1043
00:31:45,561 --> 00:31:46,996
then this is the shores and

1044
00:31:46,996 --> 00:31:48,130
County Road d at our southern

1045
00:31:48,130 --> 00:31:51,601
border. Just to give you a

1046
00:31:51,601 --> 00:31:52,768
little bearings here. And you

1047
00:31:52,768 --> 00:31:53,903
are being asked to revoke the

1048
00:31:53,903 --> 00:31:56,303
rental licenses for the

1049
00:31:56,639 --> 00:31:58,639
property at 1062 1064 Glenn

1050
00:31:58,975 --> 00:32:00,430
Hill Road. Um, it is a duplex

1051
00:32:00,430 --> 00:32:01,377
and the property owner of the

1052
00:32:01,377 --> 00:32:02,579
duplex has failed to comply

1053
00:32:02,579 --> 00:32:03,179
with provisions of the city

1054
00:32:03,179 --> 00:32:04,680
s

1055
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:05,748
regulations, including the

1056
00:32:05,748 --> 00:32:05,948
failure to comply with the

1057
00:32:05,948 --> 00:32:07,216
city

1058
00:32:07,216 --> 00:32:08,618
s regulations, regulations

1059
00:32:08,618 --> 00:32:10,386
regarding allowable unit

1060
00:32:10,386 --> 00:32:11,921
counts. The property owner is

1061
00:32:11,921 --> 00:32:13,790
renting out each side as having

1062
00:32:13,790 --> 00:32:16,190
two units, effectively making

1063
00:32:17,994 --> 00:32:20,864
the duplex into a fourplex. So

1064
00:32:20,864 --> 00:32:22,732
section 30.91 license

1065
00:32:22,732 --> 00:32:24,868
suspension or revocation a

1066
00:32:24,868 --> 00:32:26,350
dwelling unit rental license is

1067
00:32:26,350 --> 00:32:27,904
subject to suspension or

1068
00:32:27,904 --> 00:32:29,472
revocation by the City Council

1069
00:32:29,472 --> 00:32:31,641
for the recent specified

1070
00:32:31,641 --> 00:32:33,743
hearing and prior to suspension

1071
00:32:33,743 --> 00:32:35,780
or revocation. The owner or its

1072
00:32:35,780 --> 00:32:36,112
agents shall be notified in

1073
00:32:36,112 --> 00:32:37,140
writing at least five days

1074
00:32:37,140 --> 00:32:37,380
prior to the City Council

1075
00:32:37,380 --> 00:32:39,380
s

1076
00:32:40,650 --> 00:32:43,500
consideration of such action,

1077
00:32:43,220 --> 00:32:43,453
and then mainly the the codes

1078
00:32:43,453 --> 00:32:45,210
that we

1079
00:32:45,210 --> 00:32:47,724
re talking about as far

1080
00:32:47,724 --> 00:32:50,260
as why a fourplex or quad plex

1081
00:32:50,260 --> 00:32:52,262
is not allowed, is section 109

1082
00:32:52,262 --> 00:32:53,964
93 requires that in the r-2

1083
00:32:53,964 --> 00:32:55,332
district, two parking spaces

1084
00:32:55,332 --> 00:32:57,334
per unit shall be required for

1085
00:32:57,334 --> 00:32:59,669
off street parking, one must be

1086
00:32:59,669 --> 00:33:00,837
completely enclosed, and

1087
00:33:00,837 --> 00:33:02,539
additional off street guest

1088
00:33:02,539 --> 00:33:04,708
parking spaces shall be

1089
00:33:04,708 --> 00:33:06,760
provided at a ratio of 0.5

1090
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,612
spaces per unit, and the

1091
00:33:08,612 --> 00:33:10,814
existing garages on the site

1092
00:33:10,814 --> 00:33:12,283
are two single stall on each

1093
00:33:12,283 --> 00:33:13,750
side, therefore, it does not

1094
00:33:13,750 --> 00:33:15,485
meet the requirements to allow

1095
00:33:15,485 --> 00:33:16,620
greater than two units and

1096
00:33:16,620 --> 00:33:18,620
additionally accessory

1097
00:33:18,722 --> 00:33:20,491
apartments are also known as

1098
00:33:20,491 --> 00:33:22,192
mother in law. Suites are not

1099
00:33:22,192 --> 00:33:24,194
allowed as an allowable use in

1100
00:33:24,194 --> 00:33:25,996
the r-2 district. They are

1101
00:33:25,996 --> 00:33:28,899
allowed in our single family r,

1102
00:33:28,899 --> 00:33:30,634
e, and r-1 districts, and the

1103
00:33:30,634 --> 00:33:33,340
provisions are specific for

1104
00:33:33,237 --> 00:33:35,506
single family dwellings. So a

1105
00:33:35,506 --> 00:33:37,308
little background history of

1106
00:33:37,308 --> 00:33:38,943
how we got to where we are. The

1107
00:33:38,943 --> 00:33:41,343
property owner contacted the

1108
00:33:41,612 --> 00:33:42,847
city in 2025 inquiring about

1109
00:33:42,847 --> 00:33:44,548
the use of the property as a

1110
00:33:44,548 --> 00:33:45,883
fourplex. The owner was told

1111
00:33:45,883 --> 00:33:47,284
that it did not meet the city

1112
00:33:47,284 --> 00:33:49,220
code provisions to allow a four

1113
00:33:49,220 --> 00:33:50,187
unit building rental licenses

1114
00:33:50,187 --> 00:33:51,222
were pulled for each side

1115
00:33:51,222 --> 00:33:53,622
individually at the renewal

1116
00:33:53,791 --> 00:33:55,393
period. For the 2026 license.

1117
00:33:55,393 --> 00:33:56,694
In APRIL of this year, staff

1118
00:33:56,694 --> 00:33:58,620
was asked to verify if the

1119
00:33:58,620 --> 00:33:59,664
property was allowed to operate

1120
00:33:59,664 --> 00:34:01,132
as a fourplex as part of an

1121
00:34:01,132 --> 00:34:02,300
appraisal, and the appraisals

1122
00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:04,101
understanding of the property

1123
00:34:04,101 --> 00:34:05,469
as having separate accessory

1124
00:34:05,469 --> 00:34:08,506
dwelling unit or mother in law

1125
00:34:08,506 --> 00:34:09,974
units in the basement. In JUNE

1126
00:34:09,974 --> 00:34:11,476
of this year, a Zillow listing

1127
00:34:11,476 --> 00:34:13,511
was found listing the property

1128
00:34:13,511 --> 00:34:15,680
as a non-conforming quad plex,

1129
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,680
including separate mailboxes.

1130
00:34:18,349 --> 00:34:19,617
In JUNE, the owner of the

1131
00:34:19,617 --> 00:34:20,718
duplex received a letter from

1132
00:34:20,718 --> 00:34:21,919
the city informing them that

1133
00:34:21,919 --> 00:34:23,788
the city was aware of the

1134
00:34:23,788 --> 00:34:25,123
operation and marketing of the

1135
00:34:25,123 --> 00:34:26,391
property as an illegal quad

1136
00:34:26,391 --> 00:34:27,458
plex, and that the city will be

1137
00:34:27,458 --> 00:34:30,428
enforcing the terms of the

1138
00:34:30,428 --> 00:34:32,828
license and all applicable

1139
00:34:32,897 --> 00:34:34,432
regulations. And then on AUGUST

1140
00:34:34,432 --> 00:34:36,134
6th, a rental inspection was

1141
00:34:36,134 --> 00:34:37,669
conducted, revealing numerous

1142
00:34:37,669 --> 00:34:39,103
code violations, including the

1143
00:34:39,103 --> 00:34:40,872
operation of the property as an

1144
00:34:40,872 --> 00:34:42,273
illegal quad plex with locked

1145
00:34:42,273 --> 00:34:44,542
doors separating the top and

1146
00:34:44,542 --> 00:34:45,877
bottom of the units. On AUGUST

1147
00:34:45,877 --> 00:34:47,212
18th, the notice of the Rental

1148
00:34:47,212 --> 00:34:48,446
License Revocation letter was

1149
00:34:48,446 --> 00:34:50,480
emailed and mailed to the owner

1150
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,830
of the property, informing them

1151
00:34:52,830 --> 00:34:53,518
of the pending action. Staff

1152
00:34:53,518 --> 00:34:54,953
did request lease documents and

1153
00:34:54,953 --> 00:34:57,953
tenant rosters from the owner

1154
00:34:59,758 --> 00:35:01,930
by 82526, staff was provided

1155
00:35:01,930 --> 00:35:02,861
with two lease documents for

1156
00:35:02,861 --> 00:35:05,564
each side, but those documents

1157
00:35:05,564 --> 00:35:08,200
were created on AUGUST 22nd,

1158
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,367
2026, which is after the date

1159
00:35:09,367 --> 00:35:11,536
of the lease terms for both

1160
00:35:11,536 --> 00:35:12,971
units. The digital signatures

1161
00:35:12,971 --> 00:35:14,239
signatures had dates before the

1162
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,907
creation date of the documents

1163
00:35:15,907 --> 00:35:17,776
themselves, and they were not

1164
00:35:17,776 --> 00:35:19,244
verifiable. Digital signatures,

1165
00:35:19,244 --> 00:35:20,679
including a blurry image with

1166
00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:21,980
the wrong year for one of them,

1167
00:35:21,980 --> 00:35:23,248
and then staff was provided

1168
00:35:23,248 --> 00:35:24,783
with tenant rosters that were

1169
00:35:24,783 --> 00:35:27,553
both created on the date that

1170
00:35:27,553 --> 00:35:28,720
they were due, and the forum

1171
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:30,256
said that it needed to be

1172
00:35:30,256 --> 00:35:32,758
submitted to the office with

1173
00:35:32,758 --> 00:35:35,561
the register of the tenants,

1174
00:35:35,561 --> 00:35:36,862
and then on AUGUST 31st, the

1175
00:35:36,862 --> 00:35:38,630
Zillow listing still lists the

1176
00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:39,598
complex as a side by side

1177
00:35:39,598 --> 00:35:40,999
duplex, with each unit having a

1178
00:35:40,999 --> 00:35:42,668
mother in law suite and their

1179
00:35:42,668 --> 00:35:44,360
own mailbox. And then on

1180
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,103
SEPTEMBER 1st, staff did

1181
00:35:45,103 --> 00:35:47,273
confirm that there are four

1182
00:35:47,273 --> 00:35:48,407
mailboxes for the duplex, two

1183
00:35:48,407 --> 00:35:50,109
with the unit numbers and two

1184
00:35:50,109 --> 00:35:52,544
with a half designation. After

1185
00:35:52,544 --> 00:35:53,612
the address. So staff is

1186
00:35:53,612 --> 00:35:56,120
recommending that the City

1187
00:35:56,615 --> 00:35:57,383
Council adopt resolution 2675

1188
00:35:57,383 --> 00:35:59,318
and move forward with the

1189
00:35:59,318 --> 00:36:00,186
revocation of the licenses.

1190
00:36:00,186 --> 00:36:01,353
This approval gives

1191
00:36:01,353 --> 00:36:02,621
authorization for the city

1192
00:36:02,621 --> 00:36:04,190
personnel to take necessary

1193
00:36:04,190 --> 00:36:05,257
actions to post the property

1194
00:36:05,257 --> 00:36:06,292
with a placard that they are

1195
00:36:06,292 --> 00:36:07,894
operating without a rental

1196
00:36:07,894 --> 00:36:09,462
license, and this will allow

1197
00:36:09,462 --> 00:36:11,363
any tenant to withhold rent if

1198
00:36:11,363 --> 00:36:12,698
they choose until they relocate

1199
00:36:12,698 --> 00:36:15,698
or the property comes into

1200
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:19,300
compliance. Questions.

1201
00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:21,741
So besides, the third bullet,

1202
00:36:21,741 --> 00:36:23,443
which was the withholding of

1203
00:36:23,443 --> 00:36:25,278
rent, is there anything else

1204
00:36:25,278 --> 00:36:28,514
the city can do to, for

1205
00:36:28,514 --> 00:36:30,449
example, our are the properties

1206
00:36:30,449 --> 00:36:32,449
unsafe? I assume.

1207
00:36:32,452 --> 00:36:33,319
There are rental license

1208
00:36:33,319 --> 00:36:35,319
violations, but there

1209
00:36:35,354 --> 00:36:37,354
s not

1210
00:36:37,423 --> 00:36:37,557
violations. And I know there

1211
00:36:37,557 --> 00:36:39,292
s

1212
00:36:39,292 --> 00:36:41,940
an inspection scheduled for

1213
00:36:41,940 --> 00:36:42,896
tomorrow or later this week

1214
00:36:42,896 --> 00:36:44,230
where those might be in

1215
00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:46,990
compliance. We have not

1216
00:36:46,990 --> 00:36:46,833
verified to them to this point.

1217
00:36:46,833 --> 00:36:48,334
Right.

1218
00:36:48,334 --> 00:36:49,435
But either way, it

1219
00:36:49,435 --> 00:36:51,204
s illegal as

1220
00:36:51,204 --> 00:36:53,373
a, uh, because I was going to

1221
00:36:53,373 --> 00:36:55,108
ask what a nonconforming quad

1222
00:36:55,108 --> 00:36:55,275
plex is.

1223
00:36:55,275 --> 00:36:56,943
It

1224
00:36:56,943 --> 00:36:57,544
s not an allowable use as a

1225
00:36:57,544 --> 00:36:58,378
complex.

1226
00:36:58,378 --> 00:36:58,745
Right? But, I mean, it

1227
00:36:58,745 --> 00:37:00,714
s not

1228
00:37:00,714 --> 00:37:02,348
something we put in our code to

1229
00:37:02,348 --> 00:37:03,850
allow conforming and

1230
00:37:03,850 --> 00:37:04,851
nonconforming complex.

1231
00:37:04,851 --> 00:37:06,851
Okay.

1232
00:37:07,754 --> 00:37:10,154
Um, okay. Other questions.

1233
00:37:12,459 --> 00:37:14,394
Council. Have we heard anything

1234
00:37:14,394 --> 00:37:14,594
for so the owner is aware that

1235
00:37:14,594 --> 00:37:14,928
they

1236
00:37:14,928 --> 00:37:16,928
re up.

1237
00:37:17,163 --> 00:37:18,331
For revocation? Yes. Do you

1238
00:37:18,331 --> 00:37:20,367
believe the owner is here?

1239
00:37:20,367 --> 00:37:22,502
Oh. All right. Good. Okay.

1240
00:37:22,502 --> 00:37:25,720
Great. Andy Council, any other

1241
00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:26,473
questions? Nope. We

1242
00:37:26,473 --> 00:37:26,606
ll then

1243
00:37:26,606 --> 00:37:28,408
I

1244
00:37:28,408 --> 00:37:29,576
ll invite, uh, the owner or

1245
00:37:29,576 --> 00:37:30,777
anyone else who wants to speak

1246
00:37:30,777 --> 00:37:33,777
about the property to come

1247
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,120
forward. Hello.

1248
00:37:42,422 --> 00:37:43,900
My name is Matthew Brown. Uh,

1249
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:44,125
do I need to give.

1250
00:37:44,125 --> 00:37:46,125
My address, please?

1251
00:37:46,627 --> 00:37:47,694
Yes. 785 North Oak Drive,

1252
00:37:47,694 --> 00:37:47,995
Badness Heights, Minnesota.

1253
00:37:47,995 --> 00:37:49,863
All right.

1254
00:37:49,863 --> 00:37:51,863
Thank you.

1255
00:37:53,634 --> 00:37:56,603
Um, yeah. So when I purchased

1256
00:37:56,603 --> 00:37:58,939
the property in 2024, I

1257
00:37:58,939 --> 00:37:59,239
purchased it from, uh, who

1258
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,239
s

1259
00:38:02,409 --> 00:38:03,645
it? Trust from? Fran, what was

1260
00:38:03,645 --> 00:38:06,780
the last name? I think it was,

1261
00:38:06,780 --> 00:38:09,780
like, folding or something. Um,

1262
00:38:09,783 --> 00:38:12,119
the the property was in

1263
00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:14,355
distress, and so I put in quite

1264
00:38:14,355 --> 00:38:18,492
a lot of effort to update it.

1265
00:38:18,492 --> 00:38:19,494
Um, she had already installed

1266
00:38:19,494 --> 00:38:20,795
the mother in law suites, so

1267
00:38:20,795 --> 00:38:23,300
there were already kitchens,

1268
00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:24,698
full kitchens and bathrooms,

1269
00:38:24,698 --> 00:38:25,699
and a lot of the doors that

1270
00:38:25,699 --> 00:38:27,668
were locked were already there

1271
00:38:27,668 --> 00:38:29,970
as well. And so, uh, but she

1272
00:38:29,970 --> 00:38:32,600
had owner occupied it. And so,

1273
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:33,975
uh, whenever I started renting

1274
00:38:33,975 --> 00:38:37,111
it originally I was renting out

1275
00:38:37,111 --> 00:38:39,460
each side individually, but

1276
00:38:39,460 --> 00:38:39,313
then the finances didn

1277
00:38:39,313 --> 00:38:41,313
t work

1278
00:38:42,783 --> 00:38:44,385
out on it. And so, um, I

1279
00:38:44,385 --> 00:38:46,554
started listing them as

1280
00:38:46,554 --> 00:38:48,189
individual spaces because the

1281
00:38:48,189 --> 00:38:50,589
basements had walkout, egress,

1282
00:38:51,793 --> 00:38:53,494
walkouts. Okay. Um, and so and

1283
00:38:53,494 --> 00:38:57,940
all, all spaces had access to

1284
00:38:57,198 --> 00:39:00,198
the laundry unit. Shoot. Um,

1285
00:39:00,435 --> 00:39:03,435
and so whenever they contacted

1286
00:39:05,139 --> 00:39:06,741
me, uh, that it was illegally

1287
00:39:06,741 --> 00:39:07,942
being used as a fourplex, I

1288
00:39:07,942 --> 00:39:08,810
contacted all the residents and

1289
00:39:08,810 --> 00:39:10,545
I was like, hey, would you guys

1290
00:39:10,545 --> 00:39:13,381
mind if you all went on one

1291
00:39:13,381 --> 00:39:13,581
lease for one side? Um, and

1292
00:39:13,581 --> 00:39:15,581
they

1293
00:39:16,551 --> 00:39:18,190
ve kind of formed a, like

1294
00:39:18,190 --> 00:39:19,200
a nice little community. They

1295
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:19,287
all they all know each other

1296
00:39:19,287 --> 00:39:20,540
and they

1297
00:39:20,540 --> 00:39:21,356
re all fairly friendly

1298
00:39:21,356 --> 00:39:23,458
with each other, and they enjoy

1299
00:39:23,458 --> 00:39:27,580
living in that spot as well.

1300
00:39:27,620 --> 00:39:28,563
Um, and so they actually did

1301
00:39:28,563 --> 00:39:29,898
sign. So whenever they asked

1302
00:39:29,898 --> 00:39:31,766
for the leases, I had just sent

1303
00:39:31,766 --> 00:39:33,335
them over the leases with the

1304
00:39:33,335 --> 00:39:35,300
dates. So originally the

1305
00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:37,773
original move in dates was in

1306
00:39:37,773 --> 00:39:40,575
MAY, I believe. And so then for

1307
00:39:40,575 --> 00:39:42,310
the 1062 side and then, uh, the

1308
00:39:42,310 --> 00:39:45,310
original moving date for the

1309
00:39:45,881 --> 00:39:46,648
left side. Um, the, the, the

1310
00:39:46,648 --> 00:39:47,716
person that moved in the

1311
00:39:47,716 --> 00:39:50,716
basement recently just moved in

1312
00:39:51,186 --> 00:39:51,720
on AUGUST 1st. And so, um, I

1313
00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:51,953
asked them and they

1314
00:39:51,953 --> 00:39:52,254
re like,

1315
00:39:52,254 --> 00:39:53,455
yeah, that

1316
00:39:53,455 --> 00:39:56,455
s fine. So I created

1317
00:39:56,792 --> 00:39:58,126
a lease for the where they were

1318
00:39:58,126 --> 00:40:01,290
all one unit where they all

1319
00:40:01,290 --> 00:40:01,730
were on one lease. Um, and they

1320
00:40:01,730 --> 00:40:01,863
were in agreement that that

1321
00:40:01,863 --> 00:40:03,863
s

1322
00:40:04,466 --> 00:40:05,634
fine. And then, uh, but yeah, I

1323
00:40:05,634 --> 00:40:06,735
did it last minute. I, I

1324
00:40:06,735 --> 00:40:06,869
m, uh,

1325
00:40:06,869 --> 00:40:08,404
I

1326
00:40:08,404 --> 00:40:09,405
m a math teacher, and I also

1327
00:40:09,405 --> 00:40:09,538
have a lot of other things that

1328
00:40:09,538 --> 00:40:11,730
I

1329
00:40:11,730 --> 00:40:12,441
m working on. So it was like,

1330
00:40:12,441 --> 00:40:16,111
oh, I gotta get this done in

1331
00:40:16,111 --> 00:40:18,347
time. Um, and so then whenever

1332
00:40:18,347 --> 00:40:19,348
I submitted the leases, I was

1333
00:40:19,348 --> 00:40:22,348
informed that they were illegal

1334
00:40:22,518 --> 00:40:26,550
because of the. It was I had

1335
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:27,756
them sign them after the the

1336
00:40:27,756 --> 00:40:29,291
time that the lease has begun.

1337
00:40:29,291 --> 00:40:30,292
And so I went and asked them if

1338
00:40:30,292 --> 00:40:31,694
they would sign one in person.

1339
00:40:31,694 --> 00:40:33,128
So I have new leases as well

1340
00:40:33,128 --> 00:40:34,697
where they the upper unit and

1341
00:40:34,697 --> 00:40:37,267
the lower unit, they agree to

1342
00:40:37,267 --> 00:40:38,467
be on one lease together. Um,

1343
00:40:38,467 --> 00:40:41,170
and so it ends up being two

1344
00:40:41,170 --> 00:40:41,670
adults on one side. And uh, on

1345
00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:41,871
the other side, there

1346
00:40:41,871 --> 00:40:43,871
s a

1347
00:40:44,740 --> 00:40:48,144
family and then an adult, um,

1348
00:40:48,144 --> 00:40:48,311
on either side. So, um, yeah, I

1349
00:40:48,311 --> 00:40:49,645
don

1350
00:40:49,645 --> 00:40:50,579
t know if that would be

1351
00:40:50,579 --> 00:40:53,282
something that you all would

1352
00:40:53,282 --> 00:40:54,951
consider, but the parking there

1353
00:40:54,951 --> 00:40:56,385
is, there is only two single

1354
00:40:56,385 --> 00:40:58,554
stall garages, but the

1355
00:40:58,554 --> 00:41:00,656
driveways are about like 100,

1356
00:41:00,656 --> 00:41:03,226
150ft long. And so we can

1357
00:41:03,226 --> 00:41:05,361
easily get four cars on each

1358
00:41:05,361 --> 00:41:07,530
driveway in one car, in the

1359
00:41:07,530 --> 00:41:08,598
garage. Um, in terms of like,

1360
00:41:08,598 --> 00:41:09,766
keeping all the cars off the

1361
00:41:09,766 --> 00:41:09,966
street at night, and then

1362
00:41:09,966 --> 00:41:10,833
that

1363
00:41:10,833 --> 00:41:12,201
s in the leases as well to

1364
00:41:12,201 --> 00:41:15,438
keep the cars off the street at

1365
00:41:15,438 --> 00:41:18,675
night. Um, yeah. So I guess my,

1366
00:41:18,675 --> 00:41:21,100
my, my request to the city is

1367
00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:25,210
to, um, at least give me more

1368
00:41:25,515 --> 00:41:25,815
time to satisfy the, uh, the

1369
00:41:25,815 --> 00:41:27,116
department

1370
00:41:27,116 --> 00:41:29,116
s request for

1371
00:41:29,853 --> 00:41:30,887
corrections. Um, and and see if

1372
00:41:30,887 --> 00:41:32,355
they would be willing to accept

1373
00:41:32,355 --> 00:41:34,524
the new leases that the tenants

1374
00:41:34,524 --> 00:41:38,124
were willing to sign. Um, and

1375
00:41:38,795 --> 00:41:41,795
then go forward from there.

1376
00:41:42,165 --> 00:41:42,465
Well, and I, I it sounds to me,

1377
00:41:42,465 --> 00:41:44,465
and I

1378
00:41:44,567 --> 00:41:46,436
ll verify with MISS Hale

1379
00:41:46,436 --> 00:41:47,637
about this, but that the leases

1380
00:41:47,637 --> 00:41:49,373
are part of the problem.

1381
00:41:49,373 --> 00:41:50,273
However, that doesn

1382
00:41:50,273 --> 00:41:52,273
t correct

1383
00:41:52,542 --> 00:41:54,678
the zoning. Um, the zoning

1384
00:41:54,678 --> 00:41:57,147
issue or, and I think there was

1385
00:41:57,147 --> 00:42:00,747
a space, the amount of space

1386
00:42:01,785 --> 00:42:03,153
that each, um, leased facility

1387
00:42:03,153 --> 00:42:04,154
needs to have. So there were

1388
00:42:04,154 --> 00:42:04,621
other. Well, that

1389
00:42:04,621 --> 00:42:05,989
s in the

1390
00:42:05,989 --> 00:42:08,125
packet that I had. It mentioned

1391
00:42:08,125 --> 00:42:09,793
that. But the problem is not

1392
00:42:09,793 --> 00:42:11,628
just with the leases

1393
00:42:11,628 --> 00:42:12,396
themselves. Um, it

1394
00:42:12,396 --> 00:42:12,997
s it

1395
00:42:12,997 --> 00:42:14,997
s with

1396
00:42:15,399 --> 00:42:17,400
the using having a four plex in

1397
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:17,801
a non, in an area that

1398
00:42:17,801 --> 00:42:19,536
s not

1399
00:42:19,536 --> 00:42:20,604
zoned for that. So I

1400
00:42:20,604 --> 00:42:22,139
m just and

1401
00:42:22,139 --> 00:42:24,541
i, there MAY be some things you

1402
00:42:24,541 --> 00:42:26,510
can work out with MISS Hill on

1403
00:42:26,510 --> 00:42:28,120
the these leases in terms of

1404
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,914
what she needs right now or

1405
00:42:30,914 --> 00:42:31,715
what the city needs. However

1406
00:42:31,715 --> 00:42:32,349
correct me if I

1407
00:42:32,349 --> 00:42:34,349
m wrong, but

1408
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:36,587
the the the real problem is, I

1409
00:42:36,587 --> 00:42:36,720
mean the zoning because you

1410
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:38,720
ve

1411
00:42:40,457 --> 00:42:42,994
got a quite an illegal, um, use

1412
00:42:42,994 --> 00:42:44,862
or rental license per the

1413
00:42:44,862 --> 00:42:45,963
zoning, which is a within the

1414
00:42:45,963 --> 00:42:48,332
code of the city, which is

1415
00:42:48,332 --> 00:42:51,932
basically the law of the city.

1416
00:42:51,936 --> 00:42:54,705
So, um, but I do want to if

1417
00:42:54,705 --> 00:42:55,973
council has questions and we

1418
00:42:55,973 --> 00:42:57,441
can get more clarification on

1419
00:42:57,441 --> 00:42:59,110
that as well. But council, what

1420
00:42:59,110 --> 00:43:00,211
questions do you have?

1421
00:43:00,211 --> 00:43:01,379
Mayor.

1422
00:43:01,379 --> 00:43:03,379
Council member. Springer.

1423
00:43:05,616 --> 00:43:08,753
Yeah. So so just to clarify, if

1424
00:43:08,753 --> 00:43:11,550
if the properties had been had

1425
00:43:11,550 --> 00:43:13,900
been properly listed as just

1426
00:43:13,900 --> 00:43:14,258
two units, a duplex, there

1427
00:43:14,258 --> 00:43:17,495
would be no problem with two

1428
00:43:17,495 --> 00:43:19,960
unrelated adults jointly

1429
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:19,831
leasing one of those units.

1430
00:43:19,831 --> 00:43:21,466
Correct?

1431
00:43:21,466 --> 00:43:23,167
That is correct.

1432
00:43:23,167 --> 00:43:24,869
And then or the other situation

1433
00:43:24,869 --> 00:43:26,204
with the family jointly leasing

1434
00:43:26,204 --> 00:43:29,204
the other unit with with

1435
00:43:29,340 --> 00:43:29,741
another individual.

1436
00:43:29,741 --> 00:43:30,441
Yeah.

1437
00:43:30,441 --> 00:43:32,276
Uh.

1438
00:43:32,276 --> 00:43:34,212
I will get the exact verbiage,

1439
00:43:34,212 --> 00:43:37,150
but there is verbiage related

1440
00:43:37,150 --> 00:43:40,615
to the, um, how many unrelated

1441
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,870
adults can be living in a.

1442
00:43:43,870 --> 00:43:43,688
All right. So I

1443
00:43:43,688 --> 00:43:43,821
m just I

1444
00:43:43,821 --> 00:43:45,821
m

1445
00:43:45,823 --> 00:43:47,158
trying to figure out how how

1446
00:43:47,158 --> 00:43:49,661
that affects how we go forward.

1447
00:43:49,661 --> 00:43:51,129
I mean, obviously there was it

1448
00:43:51,129 --> 00:43:52,564
was done incorrectly to begin

1449
00:43:52,564 --> 00:43:53,865
with. So trying to figure out

1450
00:43:53,865 --> 00:43:55,667
how how how that gets

1451
00:43:55,667 --> 00:43:57,667
corrected. Now.

1452
00:43:59,271 --> 00:44:01,639
You mean the sale itself.

1453
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:02,874
The, um, well, what what would

1454
00:44:02,874 --> 00:44:04,743
the circumstances would have to

1455
00:44:04,743 --> 00:44:08,580
be to be eligible for, uh, for

1456
00:44:08,580 --> 00:44:09,681
the rental license?

1457
00:44:09,681 --> 00:44:10,682
Did you have something?

1458
00:44:10,682 --> 00:44:12,584
Yeah. Mayor and council, if I

1459
00:44:12,584 --> 00:44:15,120
MAY. I think it, you know,

1460
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,922
staff made this condition aware

1461
00:44:16,922 --> 00:44:18,190
back in 2025. We

1462
00:44:18,190 --> 00:44:20,190
re now at

1463
00:44:21,593 --> 00:44:23,361
SEPTEMBER of 2026 with

1464
00:44:23,361 --> 00:44:25,761
significant formal notice since

1465
00:44:26,264 --> 00:44:29,100
APRIL. Um, and as of today, it

1466
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:30,335
is not in compliance. So it is

1467
00:44:30,335 --> 00:44:30,969
a recommendation to staff to

1468
00:44:30,969 --> 00:44:33,369
move forward with the

1469
00:44:33,472 --> 00:44:35,207
relocation. The owner could

1470
00:44:35,207 --> 00:44:37,376
then, you know, take care of

1471
00:44:37,376 --> 00:44:38,677
the situation and reapply for a

1472
00:44:38,677 --> 00:44:39,678
new rental license. And then

1473
00:44:39,678 --> 00:44:42,780
everything could be verified

1474
00:44:42,114 --> 00:44:42,581
during that time. Um, but just

1475
00:44:42,581 --> 00:44:43,482
because there

1476
00:44:43,482 --> 00:44:45,882
s been a history

1477
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,587
of non conformance here and

1478
00:44:48,587 --> 00:44:50,455
then blatantly violates the

1479
00:44:50,455 --> 00:44:51,757
code, it we stand by our

1480
00:44:51,757 --> 00:44:53,358
recommendation to continue with

1481
00:44:53,358 --> 00:44:55,600
the revocation and allow for

1482
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:56,562
the application to come

1483
00:44:56,562 --> 00:44:56,829
forward. If they see that fit.

1484
00:44:56,829 --> 00:44:58,731
It doesn

1485
00:44:58,731 --> 00:44:59,465
t evict the the those

1486
00:44:59,465 --> 00:45:00,650
that live there. It

1487
00:45:00,650 --> 00:45:02,650
s posting

1488
00:45:02,468 --> 00:45:03,535
the notification of the

1489
00:45:03,535 --> 00:45:04,436
potential or they could

1490
00:45:04,436 --> 00:45:04,736
withhold the rent. It

1491
00:45:04,736 --> 00:45:05,104
s not

1492
00:45:05,104 --> 00:45:06,238
like they don

1493
00:45:06,238 --> 00:45:06,906
t have to pay.

1494
00:45:06,906 --> 00:45:07,673
Um, so there

1495
00:45:07,673 --> 00:45:08,841
s a whole legal

1496
00:45:08,841 --> 00:45:10,809
compliance for that money I

1497
00:45:10,809 --> 00:45:13,413
think would go. But um, it

1498
00:45:13,413 --> 00:45:14,780
really would just it really

1499
00:45:14,780 --> 00:45:15,681
satisfies the condition that

1500
00:45:15,681 --> 00:45:16,115
exists today is that it

1501
00:45:16,115 --> 00:45:17,983
s not

1502
00:45:17,983 --> 00:45:18,284
in compliance. And it

1503
00:45:18,284 --> 00:45:19,184
s been

1504
00:45:19,184 --> 00:45:20,553
abundantly clear that what

1505
00:45:20,553 --> 00:45:20,786
needed to happen. So that

1506
00:45:20,786 --> 00:45:22,540
d be

1507
00:45:22,540 --> 00:45:23,823
my recommendation to continue

1508
00:45:23,823 --> 00:45:26,250
forward. And ideally, it gets

1509
00:45:26,250 --> 00:45:27,930
into compliance.

1510
00:45:27,930 --> 00:45:28,895
Uh, Council member.

1511
00:45:28,895 --> 00:45:32,495
Doan yes, mayor, I just wanted

1512
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:33,866
to ask MR. Brown at, uh, how

1513
00:45:33,866 --> 00:45:35,134
long you

1514
00:45:35,134 --> 00:45:35,735
ve owned the property

1515
00:45:35,735 --> 00:45:37,303
and how long it

1516
00:45:37,303 --> 00:45:39,303
s been rented

1517
00:45:40,573 --> 00:45:43,376
in the current condition of or

1518
00:45:43,376 --> 00:45:46,279
rented as four units. And at

1519
00:45:46,279 --> 00:45:48,948
what point did you learn that

1520
00:45:48,948 --> 00:45:50,349
that was out of compliance with

1521
00:45:50,349 --> 00:45:51,985
city zoning code?

1522
00:45:51,985 --> 00:45:54,870
Right. Uh, so I own the

1523
00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:57,870
property. I bought it in 2020

1524
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,632
for fall 2024. Um, and 2025. I

1525
00:46:05,632 --> 00:46:08,902
had one side rented to one

1526
00:46:08,902 --> 00:46:11,902
family. Um, so the 1020, the

1527
00:46:12,505 --> 00:46:14,730
1064 side and the 1062 side, I

1528
00:46:14,730 --> 00:46:15,642
had split that up. So then I

1529
00:46:15,642 --> 00:46:17,510
was using it as three units,

1530
00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:19,910
essentially with three leases.

1531
00:46:23,683 --> 00:46:25,785
Um, and then in. I listed the

1532
00:46:25,785 --> 00:46:27,187
property for sale of this

1533
00:46:27,187 --> 00:46:27,954
APRIL, and then that

1534
00:46:27,954 --> 00:46:28,955
s whenever

1535
00:46:28,955 --> 00:46:29,956
people started asking me like,

1536
00:46:29,956 --> 00:46:34,156
oh, can you lease it this way?

1537
00:46:34,261 --> 00:46:35,629
I was like, well, I have, I

1538
00:46:35,629 --> 00:46:38,290
have a property management

1539
00:46:38,980 --> 00:46:39,566
company that leases the whole

1540
00:46:39,566 --> 00:46:42,690
thing that I wrote a lease to.

1541
00:46:42,690 --> 00:46:43,300
And then they called, I own

1542
00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:43,804
that property management

1543
00:46:43,804 --> 00:46:46,804
company, but then kind of

1544
00:46:47,374 --> 00:46:49,209
subleased it as a rooms. Um,

1545
00:46:49,209 --> 00:46:50,978
but but yeah, essentially it

1546
00:46:50,978 --> 00:46:53,147
was being used again as a

1547
00:46:53,147 --> 00:46:55,547
non-conforming fourplex or um,

1548
00:46:55,682 --> 00:46:57,484
so, so I was I kind of

1549
00:46:57,484 --> 00:47:00,484
investigated it more in APRIL.

1550
00:47:02,889 --> 00:47:04,525
Um, and uh, the one unit that

1551
00:47:04,525 --> 00:47:07,227
was on the 1064 side, I ended

1552
00:47:07,227 --> 00:47:10,227
up leasing that basement just,

1553
00:47:10,431 --> 00:47:13,334
uh, not AUGUST, JULY. Someone

1554
00:47:13,334 --> 00:47:15,200
was in JULY there in JULY. Um,

1555
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,304
because the families shifted

1556
00:47:17,304 --> 00:47:19,730
like the the tenants kind of

1557
00:47:19,730 --> 00:47:22,730
shifted where they were, uh,

1558
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,820
this kind of spring. Um. Yeah.

1559
00:47:28,820 --> 00:47:28,816
So I guess. Yeah, that it

1560
00:47:28,816 --> 00:47:30,251
answers..

1561
00:47:30,251 --> 00:47:31,986
Mayor, could I ask just to

1562
00:47:31,986 --> 00:47:32,753
clarify that? I guess I

1563
00:47:32,753 --> 00:47:34,753
m still

1564
00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:38,990
unclear. Uh, MR. Brown, when

1565
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,960
you became aware that, uh,

1566
00:47:43,230 --> 00:47:46,100
having more than two units

1567
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:48,202
rented at this property was in

1568
00:47:48,202 --> 00:47:51,202
violation of the zoning code?

1569
00:47:51,339 --> 00:47:54,939
Sure. Um, it would be APRIL

1570
00:47:55,476 --> 00:47:57,876
20th, 20. This this APRIL,

1571
00:47:58,313 --> 00:47:59,381
APRIL 2026. Um, and again,

1572
00:47:59,381 --> 00:48:01,820
whenever I was writing up the

1573
00:48:01,820 --> 00:48:04,682
leases, the, the way I had

1574
00:48:04,819 --> 00:48:06,454
written up the leases, um, was

1575
00:48:06,454 --> 00:48:08,230
there is a like a master lease

1576
00:48:08,230 --> 00:48:09,423
for one unit and then sub

1577
00:48:09,423 --> 00:48:10,725
leasing. So I have another

1578
00:48:10,725 --> 00:48:12,270
rental where I rent out rooms.

1579
00:48:12,270 --> 00:48:15,396
And so each room gets its own

1580
00:48:15,396 --> 00:48:17,232
lease. Um, and so then you

1581
00:48:17,232 --> 00:48:18,633
could say I have four units in

1582
00:48:18,633 --> 00:48:19,167
that one single family room, a

1583
00:48:19,167 --> 00:48:19,434
house because there

1584
00:48:19,434 --> 00:48:21,169
s four

1585
00:48:21,169 --> 00:48:22,370
bedrooms. But yeah. And then

1586
00:48:22,370 --> 00:48:24,505
each room, actually I put a

1587
00:48:24,505 --> 00:48:26,741
lock on each room so that each

1588
00:48:26,741 --> 00:48:28,209
person can lock away their

1589
00:48:28,209 --> 00:48:29,344
belongings when they leave so

1590
00:48:29,344 --> 00:48:30,780
that other roommates aren

1591
00:48:30,780 --> 00:48:32,470
t,

1592
00:48:32,470 --> 00:48:34,983
um, tempted to do anything to

1593
00:48:34,983 --> 00:48:36,485
their room. So, yeah.

1594
00:48:36,485 --> 00:48:37,619
Thank you. Okay.

1595
00:48:37,619 --> 00:48:39,540
Council member Gardner.

1596
00:48:39,540 --> 00:48:40,422
Had a question.

1597
00:48:40,422 --> 00:48:41,957
Uh, just a comment and then a

1598
00:48:41,957 --> 00:48:42,524
question for staff. So I

1599
00:48:42,524 --> 00:48:42,658
m. I

1600
00:48:42,658 --> 00:48:43,758
m

1601
00:48:43,758 --> 00:48:45,594
inclined here to support the

1602
00:48:45,594 --> 00:48:46,227
staff recommendation. It seems

1603
00:48:46,227 --> 00:48:46,661
every time we

1604
00:48:46,661 --> 00:48:47,562
re in one of

1605
00:48:47,562 --> 00:48:47,927
these situations where we

1606
00:48:47,927 --> 00:48:48,697
re

1607
00:48:48,697 --> 00:48:49,998
trying to figure out some

1608
00:48:49,998 --> 00:48:52,100
flexibility, we always end up

1609
00:48:52,100 --> 00:48:52,367
in the same place anyway. Um,

1610
00:48:52,367 --> 00:48:54,236
so I

1611
00:48:54,236 --> 00:48:57,500
m satisfied with what we

1612
00:48:57,500 --> 00:48:59,141
have for recommendation. Uh, I

1613
00:48:59,141 --> 00:49:00,809
wonder if MISS Hill could

1614
00:49:00,809 --> 00:49:01,743
remind us what

1615
00:49:01,743 --> 00:49:03,579
s in our

1616
00:49:03,579 --> 00:49:04,646
ordinance about how tenants are

1617
00:49:04,646 --> 00:49:07,616
notified of their rights in

1618
00:49:07,616 --> 00:49:10,519
this situation, and I recall

1619
00:49:10,519 --> 00:49:12,254
reading that in. But they will

1620
00:49:12,254 --> 00:49:13,355
get some direct contact to let

1621
00:49:13,355 --> 00:49:13,622
them know that they don

1622
00:49:13,622 --> 00:49:14,790
t have

1623
00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:15,858
to pay rent, or they pay into

1624
00:49:15,858 --> 00:49:17,893
an escrow fund or something

1625
00:49:17,893 --> 00:49:18,995
like that to make sure that

1626
00:49:18,995 --> 00:49:19,295
their rights are protected

1627
00:49:19,295 --> 00:49:20,763
here.

1628
00:49:20,763 --> 00:49:23,866
Yeah, we would let tenants know

1629
00:49:23,866 --> 00:49:26,100
about contacting Home line and

1630
00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:26,368
other other resources that are

1631
00:49:26,368 --> 00:49:27,837
there.

1632
00:49:27,837 --> 00:49:28,570
And do we just like a certified

1633
00:49:28,570 --> 00:49:30,570
letter or is.

1634
00:49:30,573 --> 00:49:31,140
It we physically post a

1635
00:49:31,140 --> 00:49:31,307
property?

1636
00:49:31,307 --> 00:49:32,641
We

1637
00:49:32,641 --> 00:49:34,410
re good. Okay.

1638
00:49:34,410 --> 00:49:35,511
Thank you. Okay.

1639
00:49:35,511 --> 00:49:36,312
Other questions.

1640
00:49:36,312 --> 00:49:38,460
Councilmember Linton.

1641
00:49:38,460 --> 00:49:40,183
Mayor, I have a question about

1642
00:49:40,183 --> 00:49:42,451
um, so once we notify the

1643
00:49:42,451 --> 00:49:43,870
tenants, um, that MR. Brown

1644
00:49:43,870 --> 00:49:45,870
s

1645
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,258
license is being, um,

1646
00:49:49,258 --> 00:49:52,258
renovated. Um, what is the

1647
00:49:52,462 --> 00:49:54,497
timeline for them, then? Before

1648
00:49:54,497 --> 00:49:56,665
something has to change with

1649
00:49:56,665 --> 00:49:58,340
from a four plex to a two plex

1650
00:49:58,340 --> 00:49:59,702
or, you know, to somebody need

1651
00:49:59,702 --> 00:50:01,700
to move out in a certain period

1652
00:50:01,700 --> 00:50:03,372
of time or what needs to

1653
00:50:03,372 --> 00:50:03,940
happen. Um, once they

1654
00:50:03,940 --> 00:50:05,374
re

1655
00:50:05,374 --> 00:50:07,176
notified.

1656
00:50:07,176 --> 00:50:07,978
Once they are notified that the

1657
00:50:07,978 --> 00:50:08,978
tenants, it

1658
00:50:08,978 --> 00:50:10,179
s not an eviction

1659
00:50:10,179 --> 00:50:10,914
process. So it

1660
00:50:10,914 --> 00:50:11,114
s posted. And

1661
00:50:11,114 --> 00:50:12,114
that

1662
00:50:12,114 --> 00:50:14,184
s why they have the option

1663
00:50:14,184 --> 00:50:14,384
to withhold rent. Usually it

1664
00:50:14,384 --> 00:50:15,918
s

1665
00:50:15,918 --> 00:50:17,530
through an escrow account,

1666
00:50:17,530 --> 00:50:17,987
which is part of the

1667
00:50:17,987 --> 00:50:18,721
information that would be

1668
00:50:18,721 --> 00:50:18,988
provided, because that

1669
00:50:18,988 --> 00:50:20,190
s not

1670
00:50:20,190 --> 00:50:20,357
something the city sets up.

1671
00:50:20,357 --> 00:50:21,958
It

1672
00:50:21,958 --> 00:50:24,126
s usually some sort of legal

1673
00:50:24,126 --> 00:50:26,263
representation. And then when

1674
00:50:26,263 --> 00:50:28,465
it comes to the compliance, um,

1675
00:50:28,465 --> 00:50:30,667
as staff has informed MR.

1676
00:50:30,667 --> 00:50:32,436
Brown, we just can

1677
00:50:32,436 --> 00:50:34,436
t have four

1678
00:50:35,710 --> 00:50:36,339
separate units there. So with

1679
00:50:36,339 --> 00:50:36,539
the locks and whatnot, if

1680
00:50:36,539 --> 00:50:38,539
they

1681
00:50:38,742 --> 00:50:39,809
re renting it as two

1682
00:50:39,809 --> 00:50:39,943
separate units and they

1683
00:50:39,943 --> 00:50:40,844
re

1684
00:50:40,844 --> 00:50:41,478
cohabitating, that

1685
00:50:41,478 --> 00:50:41,712
s fine. But

1686
00:50:41,712 --> 00:50:43,380
we can

1687
00:50:43,380 --> 00:50:44,214
t have locked separate

1688
00:50:44,214 --> 00:50:44,982
units because then you

1689
00:50:44,982 --> 00:50:46,549
re just

1690
00:50:46,549 --> 00:50:46,917
reverting it back to a fourplex

1691
00:50:46,917 --> 00:50:48,618
which doesn

1692
00:50:48,618 --> 00:50:50,120
t meet our code.

1693
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,121
And so that was part of why we

1694
00:50:52,121 --> 00:50:52,288
did the inspection. And it

1695
00:50:52,288 --> 00:50:53,624
s

1696
00:50:53,624 --> 00:50:55,559
still listed on Zillow as a

1697
00:50:55,559 --> 00:50:56,930
non-conforming fourplex as of

1698
00:50:56,930 --> 00:50:58,930
today.

1699
00:50:58,495 --> 00:51:00,297
Was it? Yes, I did. Well, I

1700
00:51:00,297 --> 00:51:02,900
thought I corrected it on my,

1701
00:51:02,900 --> 00:51:04,801
uh, and so I apologize that it

1702
00:51:04,801 --> 00:51:05,836
still says that, but yeah, I

1703
00:51:05,836 --> 00:51:06,403
believe I changed. I

1704
00:51:06,403 --> 00:51:08,372
ll double

1705
00:51:08,372 --> 00:51:10,273
check.

1706
00:51:10,273 --> 00:51:12,900
And I have one further

1707
00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:13,343
question. If I could, when you

1708
00:51:13,343 --> 00:51:16,179
purchased the property, did you

1709
00:51:16,179 --> 00:51:18,949
think you were buying a duplex

1710
00:51:18,949 --> 00:51:21,318
or a fourplex? And did you do

1711
00:51:21,318 --> 00:51:22,753
your research on what the the

1712
00:51:22,753 --> 00:51:24,753
codes were?

1713
00:51:27,191 --> 00:51:28,425
Um, when I bought it, in my

1714
00:51:28,425 --> 00:51:29,626
mind, I mean, it

1715
00:51:29,626 --> 00:51:31,828
s listed as a

1716
00:51:31,828 --> 00:51:33,964
duplex. Um, in my mind, it

1717
00:51:33,964 --> 00:51:35,399
s it

1718
00:51:35,399 --> 00:51:38,269
was a mother in law suite. And

1719
00:51:38,269 --> 00:51:41,172
so it was easily again, in my

1720
00:51:41,172 --> 00:51:43,172
mind, non-conforming fourplex

1721
00:51:44,742 --> 00:51:45,977
is how I bought it. Um, I have

1722
00:51:45,977 --> 00:51:47,144
other single family homes that

1723
00:51:47,144 --> 00:51:50,744
have mother in law suites in

1724
00:51:52,315 --> 00:51:53,830
the basement. Um, and so, yeah,

1725
00:51:53,830 --> 00:51:53,684
whenever, whenever I

1726
00:51:53,684 --> 00:51:55,684
ve rented

1727
00:51:55,686 --> 00:51:55,953
out rooms, um, to people, I

1728
00:51:55,953 --> 00:51:57,722
ve

1729
00:51:57,722 --> 00:51:59,256
just rented out the room

1730
00:51:59,256 --> 00:52:00,591
separately, uh, so that they

1731
00:52:00,591 --> 00:52:00,791
have their own lease. And so

1732
00:52:00,791 --> 00:52:01,658
that

1733
00:52:01,658 --> 00:52:05,229
s how I was thinking of

1734
00:52:05,229 --> 00:52:07,532
it. Um, but. Yeah, so.

1735
00:52:07,532 --> 00:52:09,600
And so when you purchase a

1736
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,168
property, if you obtain

1737
00:52:11,168 --> 00:52:12,837
financing for it, and there was

1738
00:52:12,837 --> 00:52:15,390
an appraisal done. Was the

1739
00:52:15,390 --> 00:52:15,907
appraisal done as a duplex or a

1740
00:52:15,907 --> 00:52:17,875
fourplex?

1741
00:52:17,875 --> 00:52:19,877
Yeah. As I said, the appraiser

1742
00:52:19,877 --> 00:52:21,279
called to verify. And so he

1743
00:52:21,279 --> 00:52:23,981
appraised it as a duplex.

1744
00:52:23,981 --> 00:52:25,116
Thank you. Okay.

1745
00:52:25,116 --> 00:52:25,317
Council member Doan, did you

1746
00:52:25,317 --> 00:52:27,510
have.

1747
00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:28,987
A question? Okay. Thank you.

1748
00:52:28,987 --> 00:52:30,987
All right.

1749
00:52:31,689 --> 00:52:32,256
So, um, thank you very much for

1750
00:52:32,256 --> 00:52:33,324
coming.

1751
00:52:33,324 --> 00:52:35,324
Thanks.

1752
00:52:35,359 --> 00:52:36,160
Um, Council member Doan. Did

1753
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,960
you have a question?

1754
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:38,529
I did have. A question for

1755
00:52:38,529 --> 00:52:38,829
staff.

1756
00:52:38,829 --> 00:52:40,565
Okay.

1757
00:52:40,565 --> 00:52:41,766
So I just. Wanted to make sure

1758
00:52:41,766 --> 00:52:42,700
we, um. If it

1759
00:52:42,700 --> 00:52:44,700
s time.

1760
00:52:44,969 --> 00:52:45,937
I think it is. And if anyone

1761
00:52:45,937 --> 00:52:47,371
else has questions, we.

1762
00:52:47,371 --> 00:52:49,307
Can.

1763
00:52:49,307 --> 00:52:52,770
Um, I just wanted to ask, uh,

1764
00:52:52,770 --> 00:52:56,114
Nikki if, um, she was able to

1765
00:52:56,114 --> 00:52:59,714
find the, uh, code that speaks

1766
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,919
to, uh, habitation of a unit by

1767
00:53:05,190 --> 00:53:06,691
non related, uh, adults. And

1768
00:53:06,691 --> 00:53:08,260
what that says, because I think

1769
00:53:08,260 --> 00:53:10,429
that that will be very helpful

1770
00:53:10,429 --> 00:53:14,290
as I think about what this

1771
00:53:15,467 --> 00:53:16,902
means, if you have, um, now, at

1772
00:53:16,902 --> 00:53:20,502
least it sounds like in the

1773
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,639
future, uh, two documented

1774
00:53:23,909 --> 00:53:25,911
leases with adults that MAY not

1775
00:53:25,911 --> 00:53:29,511
be related living in the same

1776
00:53:34,519 --> 00:53:35,821
space.

1777
00:53:35,821 --> 00:53:37,756
In Marin County, that would

1778
00:53:37,756 --> 00:53:38,924
apply to a future application

1779
00:53:38,924 --> 00:53:39,659
then. Not this current

1780
00:53:39,659 --> 00:53:41,659
situation.

1781
00:53:42,127 --> 00:53:44,263
And then also, I a related

1782
00:53:44,263 --> 00:53:47,263
question, which is with regard

1783
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,871
to a revocation, um, is there a

1784
00:53:51,871 --> 00:53:54,871
certain period of time where,

1785
00:53:55,730 --> 00:53:57,242
uh, is there a kind of a

1786
00:53:57,242 --> 00:53:59,444
holding pattern or a time that

1787
00:53:59,444 --> 00:53:59,745
you can apply for a license

1788
00:53:59,745 --> 00:54:01,745
because it

1789
00:54:03,683 --> 00:54:05,150
s been revoked?

1790
00:54:05,150 --> 00:54:05,851
But can you answer that

1791
00:54:05,851 --> 00:54:06,185
question?

1792
00:54:06,185 --> 00:54:07,530
There isn

1793
00:54:07,530 --> 00:54:08,153
t necessarily a

1794
00:54:08,153 --> 00:54:10,589
holding time there. There will

1795
00:54:10,589 --> 00:54:12,391
be a reinstatement fee to come

1796
00:54:12,391 --> 00:54:14,760
back to have a rental license.

1797
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:14,960
But if they are in compliance,

1798
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,362
they

1799
00:54:16,362 --> 00:54:17,763
re certainly welcome to

1800
00:54:17,763 --> 00:54:19,320
apply..

1801
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:19,898
And were you still waiting for

1802
00:54:19,898 --> 00:54:21,768
an answer on.

1803
00:54:21,768 --> 00:54:22,101
That code? Yes. Thank you. I

1804
00:54:22,101 --> 00:54:22,768
m

1805
00:54:22,768 --> 00:54:24,303
looking for okay.

1806
00:54:24,303 --> 00:54:25,538
We could also just follow up

1807
00:54:25,538 --> 00:54:25,738
with that information too.

1808
00:54:25,738 --> 00:54:27,738
That

1809
00:54:27,774 --> 00:54:30,174
s right. So okay.

1810
00:54:30,343 --> 00:54:31,444
So with that council, um,

1811
00:54:31,444 --> 00:54:33,212
thoughts on.

1812
00:54:33,212 --> 00:54:34,614
Uh, uh.

1813
00:54:34,614 --> 00:54:36,148
Well, it seems like the music

1814
00:54:36,148 --> 00:54:37,818
has reached a crescendo in the

1815
00:54:37,818 --> 00:54:39,218
soundtrack of this, uh, agenda

1816
00:54:39,218 --> 00:54:40,420
item. So is it appropriate to

1817
00:54:40,420 --> 00:54:42,221
make the motion now?

1818
00:54:42,221 --> 00:54:45,458
Um, as long as no one has any

1819
00:54:45,458 --> 00:54:45,792
other questions?

1820
00:54:45,792 --> 00:54:46,626
Okay.

1821
00:54:46,626 --> 00:54:47,793
Uh, therefore, I

1822
00:54:47,793 --> 00:54:49,620
ll, uh, uh,

1823
00:54:49,620 --> 00:54:51,531
make a motion to adopt

1824
00:54:51,531 --> 00:54:52,732
resolution number 26, dash 75,

1825
00:54:52,732 --> 00:54:53,833
approving the revocation of the

1826
00:54:53,833 --> 00:54:56,233
rental licenses for the

1827
00:54:57,270 --> 00:54:58,471
property located at 1064 1062

1828
00:54:58,471 --> 00:55:00,506
Glenn Hill Road, pursuant to

1829
00:55:00,506 --> 00:55:02,742
section 39, one of the

1830
00:55:02,742 --> 00:55:02,875
municipal code.

1831
00:55:02,875 --> 00:55:03,843
I

1832
00:55:03,843 --> 00:55:04,100
ll second that.

1833
00:55:04,100 --> 00:55:05,312
We

1834
00:55:05,312 --> 00:55:07,130
ve got a motion by Council

1835
00:55:07,130 --> 00:55:09,582
Member Gardner, with the second

1836
00:55:09,582 --> 00:55:11,117
by council Spring Horn to pass

1837
00:55:11,117 --> 00:55:11,551
the motion. All in favor,

1838
00:55:11,551 --> 00:55:12,852
please say.

1839
00:55:12,852 --> 00:55:14,852
Aye. Aye, aye.

1840
00:55:16,423 --> 00:55:19,325
All opposed. Same sign. Um.

1841
00:55:19,325 --> 00:55:21,940
Motion passes 5 to 0. Um. And,

1842
00:55:21,940 --> 00:55:23,263
MR. Brown, what this does, is

1843
00:55:23,263 --> 00:55:25,650
it it brings it to the point

1844
00:55:25,650 --> 00:55:27,367
where, I mean, your tenants

1845
00:55:27,367 --> 00:55:29,436
will not be affected, but it

1846
00:55:29,436 --> 00:55:31,104
will be up to you to work with

1847
00:55:31,104 --> 00:55:34,641
the city, which you can do

1848
00:55:34,641 --> 00:55:36,409
right away. Um, to, to rectify

1849
00:55:36,409 --> 00:55:38,311
the situation and then reapply

1850
00:55:38,311 --> 00:55:39,947
for a license. But so, you

1851
00:55:39,947 --> 00:55:41,248
understand at this point that

1852
00:55:41,248 --> 00:55:43,717
there will be something posted

1853
00:55:43,717 --> 00:55:44,585
on the property. Um, however,

1854
00:55:44,585 --> 00:55:46,153
your tenants won

1855
00:55:46,153 --> 00:55:47,621
t be affected

1856
00:55:47,621 --> 00:55:48,222
by this, but I do hope that.

1857
00:55:48,222 --> 00:55:49,489
You.

1858
00:55:49,489 --> 00:55:52,489
You know, immediately start to

1859
00:55:52,659 --> 00:55:53,126
work with MISS Hill on this. So

1860
00:55:53,126 --> 00:55:53,827
it.

1861
00:55:53,827 --> 00:55:55,827
Okay.

1862
00:55:56,229 --> 00:55:57,497
All right. Thank you very much.

1863
00:55:57,497 --> 00:56:01,970
Thank you for coming. That was

1864
00:56:01,235 --> 00:56:04,835
very helpful. Um, so with that,

1865
00:56:04,872 --> 00:56:06,173
we will move on. To our next

1866
00:56:06,173 --> 00:56:06,540
item of general business, which

1867
00:56:06,540 --> 00:56:06,974
is ten.

1868
00:56:06,974 --> 00:56:08,375
Be.

1869
00:56:08,375 --> 00:56:10,811
Tall grass and weed abatement

1870
00:56:10,811 --> 00:56:12,346
at 225 northwest so Boulevard.

1871
00:56:12,346 --> 00:56:15,946
And again we welcome back MISS.

1872
00:56:16,884 --> 00:56:17,985
Hill.

1873
00:56:17,985 --> 00:56:19,386
Thank you mayor. Members of.

1874
00:56:19,386 --> 00:56:21,322
The council.

1875
00:56:21,322 --> 00:56:22,656
We do have an abatement hearing

1876
00:56:22,656 --> 00:56:23,857
for vegetative growth, also

1877
00:56:23,857 --> 00:56:26,627
known as tall grass and weeds,

1878
00:56:26,627 --> 00:56:27,194
for 225 North Owosso Boulevard.

1879
00:56:27,194 --> 00:56:28,496
And you

1880
00:56:28,496 --> 00:56:29,964
re being asked to order

1881
00:56:29,964 --> 00:56:30,898
the abatement of the tall grass

1882
00:56:30,898 --> 00:56:33,898
and weeds for the property

1883
00:56:34,235 --> 00:56:36,635
located at 225 North Owosso.

1884
00:56:37,370 --> 00:56:39,240
Um, the ordinance requirements

1885
00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:40,674
are section 286 property

1886
00:56:40,674 --> 00:56:41,809
maintenance. The exterior of

1887
00:56:41,809 --> 00:56:43,544
all properties must be kept

1888
00:56:43,544 --> 00:56:44,879
free of noxious weeds, and that

1889
00:56:44,879 --> 00:56:46,514
includes grass and lawn. Areas

1890
00:56:46,514 --> 00:56:47,882
cannot exceed nine inches in

1891
00:56:47,882 --> 00:56:50,518
height. And then for that

1892
00:56:50,518 --> 00:56:51,719
abatement procedure, we do have

1893
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:52,853
a notification and hearing

1894
00:56:52,853 --> 00:56:54,355
process, which includes the

1895
00:56:54,355 --> 00:56:56,290
notification in writing it was

1896
00:56:56,290 --> 00:56:58,920
posted. There is a time frame

1897
00:56:58,920 --> 00:56:59,594
to correct the conditions, as

1898
00:56:59,594 --> 00:57:04,980
long as well as a notice of the

1899
00:57:04,980 --> 00:57:04,799
hearing date and. Again, it

1900
00:57:04,799 --> 00:57:06,799
s

1901
00:57:07,568 --> 00:57:10,305
225 and as you can see, they

1902
00:57:10,305 --> 00:57:13,740
have significant tall grass and

1903
00:57:13,740 --> 00:57:16,740
weeds from not maintaining the

1904
00:57:16,711 --> 00:57:17,912
property. And the property was

1905
00:57:17,912 --> 00:57:20,315
inspected and a notice was

1906
00:57:20,315 --> 00:57:21,490
posted on AUGUST 14th informing

1907
00:57:21,490 --> 00:57:22,650
the property owner of

1908
00:57:22,650 --> 00:57:23,885
violations and that abatement

1909
00:57:23,885 --> 00:57:25,954
action would be taken if not

1910
00:57:25,954 --> 00:57:27,880
corrected. The notice specified

1911
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,290
that city regulations and

1912
00:57:29,290 --> 00:57:31,290
conditions constituting

1913
00:57:31,993 --> 00:57:34,960
violations um was given five

1914
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,464
days for the corrections. There

1915
00:57:36,464 --> 00:57:38,300
were three inspections on

1916
00:57:38,300 --> 00:57:38,834
AUGUST 20th. I

1917
00:57:38,834 --> 00:57:40,802
m not sure where

1918
00:57:40,802 --> 00:57:42,871
the 20th came from, but 25th,

1919
00:57:42,871 --> 00:57:44,390
31st and SEPTEMBER 2nd as well

1920
00:57:44,390 --> 00:57:45,507
as today were no change in

1921
00:57:45,507 --> 00:57:47,750
conditions were found. The

1922
00:57:47,750 --> 00:57:48,210
property does remain out of

1923
00:57:48,210 --> 00:57:50,610
compliance after city re

1924
00:57:51,913 --> 00:57:53,810
inspection today, so we are

1925
00:57:53,810 --> 00:57:55,183
recommending that you hold the

1926
00:57:55,183 --> 00:57:57,119
hearing and adopt resolution

1927
00:57:57,119 --> 00:57:58,920
2673, allowing the city to

1928
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,122
abate the nuisance conditions

1929
00:58:00,122 --> 00:58:01,156
and that does allow staff to

1930
00:58:01,156 --> 00:58:03,258
monitor the property through

1931
00:58:03,258 --> 00:58:03,625
the rest of 2026, as well as

1932
00:58:03,625 --> 00:58:04,926
next year

1933
00:58:04,926 --> 00:58:06,995
s growing season of

1934
00:58:06,995 --> 00:58:08,995
2027, and order additional

1935
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:10,432
mowing if required. And then

1936
00:58:10,432 --> 00:58:11,533
the cost associated with any

1937
00:58:11,533 --> 00:58:12,801
abatements will be billed to

1938
00:58:12,801 --> 00:58:14,636
the property owner and assessed

1939
00:58:14,636 --> 00:58:15,337
to the property. If not paid.

1940
00:58:15,337 --> 00:58:16,838
Okay.

1941
00:58:16,838 --> 00:58:18,907
And have we heard anything from

1942
00:58:18,907 --> 00:58:20,907
the property owner?

1943
00:58:21,143 --> 00:58:22,811
We did have contact with them

1944
00:58:22,811 --> 00:58:23,879
at the end of last week. They

1945
00:58:23,879 --> 00:58:25,514
said they would take care of it

1946
00:58:25,514 --> 00:58:27,649
and that has not occurred. And

1947
00:58:27,649 --> 00:58:30,986
this home has had a tall grass

1948
00:58:30,986 --> 00:58:31,387
and weed abatement in 2022 as

1949
00:58:31,387 --> 00:58:33,387
well. So it

1950
00:58:33,689 --> 00:58:35,524
s not a new thing

1951
00:58:35,524 --> 00:58:37,524
for this property.

1952
00:58:37,993 --> 00:58:39,728
And is it currently occupied?

1953
00:58:39,728 --> 00:58:40,563
I do believe so. From one of

1954
00:58:40,563 --> 00:58:41,597
the pictures that looked like

1955
00:58:41,597 --> 00:58:42,298
there was a car in the

1956
00:58:42,298 --> 00:58:42,998
driveway.

1957
00:58:42,998 --> 00:58:44,967
Okay.

1958
00:58:44,967 --> 00:58:48,567
Not that that would matter for

1959
00:58:49,205 --> 00:58:51,674
this, but okay. Thank you. Um,

1960
00:58:51,674 --> 00:58:52,375
Council, any questions? Council

1961
00:58:52,375 --> 00:58:54,375
member Doan.

1962
00:58:55,111 --> 00:58:56,378
Um, thank you, mayor Nikki, do

1963
00:58:56,378 --> 00:58:58,180
we know if this is a rental

1964
00:58:58,180 --> 00:59:00,650
property or if it is owner

1965
00:59:00,650 --> 00:59:01,500
occupied? And it doesn

1966
00:59:01,500 --> 00:59:02,170
t make a

1967
00:59:02,170 --> 00:59:02,285
difference from my decision.

1968
00:59:02,285 --> 00:59:03,586
But I

1969
00:59:03,586 --> 00:59:03,753
m not sure I know. That

1970
00:59:03,753 --> 00:59:05,621
it

1971
00:59:05,621 --> 00:59:05,755
s an investment owner, so

1972
00:59:05,755 --> 00:59:06,689
I

1973
00:59:06,689 --> 00:59:07,190
m inclined to say it

1974
00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:08,224
s likely

1975
00:59:08,224 --> 00:59:08,624
a rental property, but I don

1976
00:59:08,624 --> 00:59:10,590
t

1977
00:59:10,590 --> 00:59:11,827
know off the top of my head.

1978
00:59:11,827 --> 00:59:13,996
That did not get checked.

1979
00:59:13,996 --> 00:59:16,396
Thank you. All right.

1980
00:59:18,701 --> 00:59:20,837
Other questions. Thank you very

1981
00:59:20,837 --> 00:59:22,272
much.

1982
00:59:22,272 --> 00:59:25,872
Uh, this is just a general

1983
00:59:25,908 --> 00:59:26,876
question. Uh, MISS Hill, in my

1984
00:59:26,876 --> 00:59:28,411
albeit short time in the

1985
00:59:28,411 --> 00:59:30,613
council, we processed a lot of

1986
00:59:30,613 --> 00:59:31,347
nuisance abatements. Uh, and in

1987
00:59:31,347 --> 00:59:32,150
many cases, there

1988
00:59:32,150 --> 00:59:32,182
s somebody

1989
00:59:32,182 --> 00:59:34,150
who

1990
00:59:34,150 --> 00:59:36,550
s, um, having medical

1991
00:59:37,487 --> 00:59:37,687
issues for having either

1992
00:59:37,687 --> 00:59:39,455
they

1993
00:59:39,455 --> 00:59:40,624
re at home or in a nursing

1994
00:59:40,624 --> 00:59:40,890
home or something like that, or

1995
00:59:40,890 --> 00:59:42,826
somebody

1996
00:59:42,826 --> 00:59:44,961
s got a disability.

1997
00:59:44,961 --> 00:59:47,300
Have we had a history at all

1998
00:59:47,300 --> 00:59:48,998
of, uh, outreach with other

1999
00:59:48,998 --> 00:59:50,667
community organizations that

2000
00:59:50,667 --> 00:59:52,235
help people out or they just

2001
00:59:52,235 --> 00:59:54,370
help keep track? Or do we just

2002
00:59:54,370 --> 00:59:55,872
find it more efficient to use

2003
00:59:55,872 --> 00:59:56,973
this process and abate the

2004
00:59:56,973 --> 00:59:58,641
nuisance and just.

2005
00:59:58,641 --> 01:00:00,110
Take care of contact community

2006
01:00:00,110 --> 01:00:02,212
organizations? You know, if we

2007
01:00:02,212 --> 01:00:03,413
we the notice, ask them to call

2008
01:00:03,413 --> 01:00:03,980
us like we want to work with

2009
01:00:03,980 --> 01:00:04,314
them. But if they don

2010
01:00:04,314 --> 01:00:04,848
t talk

2011
01:00:04,848 --> 01:00:05,282
with us.

2012
01:00:05,282 --> 01:00:05,482
Yeah.

2013
01:00:05,482 --> 01:00:06,316
That

2014
01:00:06,316 --> 01:00:07,885
s when we go to the

2015
01:00:07,885 --> 01:00:08,510
abatement process or if they

2016
01:00:08,510 --> 01:00:08,919
don

2017
01:00:08,919 --> 01:00:10,587
t work like we had a

2018
01:00:10,587 --> 01:00:12,455
previous one where we did talk

2019
01:00:12,455 --> 01:00:12,656
with the homeowner and they

2020
01:00:12,656 --> 01:00:13,824
didn

2021
01:00:13,824 --> 01:00:15,258
t want those resources. So

2022
01:00:15,258 --> 01:00:17,194
we ended up doing an abatement.

2023
01:00:17,194 --> 01:00:18,361
So, um, is it fair to say that

2024
01:00:18,361 --> 01:00:19,629
there are some nuisance

2025
01:00:19,629 --> 01:00:20,797
abatement issues that never

2026
01:00:20,797 --> 01:00:22,733
come before us because they

2027
01:00:22,733 --> 01:00:24,935
already got worked out based on

2028
01:00:24,935 --> 01:00:27,335
the suggestions you offer?

2029
01:00:28,138 --> 01:00:28,538
Okay. Thank you.

2030
01:00:28,538 --> 01:00:30,700
Okay.

2031
01:00:30,700 --> 01:00:31,509
I just had one further

2032
01:00:31,509 --> 01:00:33,210
question, if I MAY. Absolutely.

2033
01:00:33,210 --> 01:00:33,877
Um, it looks in one of the

2034
01:00:33,877 --> 01:00:35,412
photos. There

2035
01:00:35,412 --> 01:00:36,847
s a it appears to

2036
01:00:36,847 --> 01:00:37,470
be a recycling can. And then

2037
01:00:37,470 --> 01:00:39,470
there

2038
01:00:39,716 --> 01:00:41,819
s some further piled up

2039
01:00:41,819 --> 01:00:42,319
debris. There. Is that garbage

2040
01:00:42,319 --> 01:00:44,319
or is that.

2041
01:00:44,722 --> 01:00:46,157
There is outside storage that

2042
01:00:46,157 --> 01:00:47,891
is also working its way through

2043
01:00:47,891 --> 01:00:49,326
the process. Okay. Tall Grass

2044
01:00:49,326 --> 01:00:50,494
and Weeds is a very short five

2045
01:00:50,494 --> 01:00:51,662
day period. And then we can

2046
01:00:51,662 --> 01:00:51,829
bring it to council because we

2047
01:00:51,829 --> 01:00:53,300
don

2048
01:00:53,300 --> 01:00:54,798
t want to belabor the

2049
01:00:54,798 --> 01:00:56,660
process. Whereas the other

2050
01:00:56,660 --> 01:00:59,660
outside storage takes a little.

2051
01:01:00,638 --> 01:01:02,206
Bit longer. Thank you. Yeah

2052
01:01:02,206 --> 01:01:03,174
And just as a reminder, with

2053
01:01:03,174 --> 01:01:03,374
all these abatements, although

2054
01:01:03,374 --> 01:01:04,275
they

2055
01:01:04,275 --> 01:01:05,343
re not formal public

2056
01:01:05,343 --> 01:01:05,543
hearings, we do need to ask if

2057
01:01:05,543 --> 01:01:06,210
there

2058
01:01:06,210 --> 01:01:07,445
s anyone in the audience

2059
01:01:07,445 --> 01:01:08,179
who want to speak to the item.

2060
01:01:08,179 --> 01:01:09,547
Okay.

2061
01:01:09,547 --> 01:01:11,482
So is there anyone here who

2062
01:01:11,482 --> 01:01:13,250
would like to speak to the

2063
01:01:13,250 --> 01:01:15,650
property at 16? Is this.

2064
01:01:16,620 --> 01:01:17,155
The 1649? I I

2065
01:01:17,155 --> 01:01:19,155
m sorry.

2066
01:01:22,193 --> 01:01:22,927
225 Northwest Boulevard.

2067
01:01:22,927 --> 01:01:24,927
Okay.

2068
01:01:25,196 --> 01:01:25,569
Seeing no one come forward,

2069
01:01:25,569 --> 01:01:27,465
I

2070
01:01:27,465 --> 01:01:29,100
ll look to council to see if

2071
01:01:29,100 --> 01:01:29,233
someone wants to make a motion.

2072
01:01:29,233 --> 01:01:30,902
I

2073
01:01:30,902 --> 01:01:31,703
ll go ahead and move to adopt

2074
01:01:31,703 --> 01:01:32,670
the following resolution.

2075
01:01:32,670 --> 01:01:34,506
Approving the abatement of

2076
01:01:34,506 --> 01:01:36,906
vegetative growth pursuant to

2077
01:01:38,843 --> 01:01:40,511
sections. Section 22-24. Uh

2078
01:01:40,511 --> 01:01:42,213
Resolution number 2673.

2079
01:01:42,213 --> 01:01:43,214
Property located at 225 North

2080
01:01:43,214 --> 01:01:44,916
Owosso Boulevard.

2081
01:01:44,916 --> 01:01:45,616
Do we have a second?

2082
01:01:45,616 --> 01:01:46,784
Second.

2083
01:01:46,784 --> 01:01:48,252
We have a motion by council

2084
01:01:48,252 --> 01:01:50,221
member Springer and a second by

2085
01:01:50,221 --> 01:01:51,489
council member Doan to move

2086
01:01:51,489 --> 01:01:53,910
forward with the tall grass and

2087
01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:54,960
weed abatement at 225 North

2088
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:55,727
West Boulevard. All in favor,

2089
01:01:55,727 --> 01:01:56,394
please say aye.

2090
01:01:56,394 --> 01:01:58,394
Aye.

2091
01:01:59,664 --> 01:02:02,664
All opposed? Same sign. Motion

2092
01:02:03,868 --> 01:02:06,371
passes 5 to 0. Um. And item

2093
01:02:06,371 --> 01:02:09,371
ten, c is another nuisance.

2094
01:02:09,808 --> 01:02:12,310
Bass abatement, this time at

2095
01:02:12,310 --> 01:02:13,678
1649 Hillview Road.

2096
01:02:13,678 --> 01:02:15,678
Oh.

2097
01:02:16,982 --> 01:02:18,750
Last one. Uh, mayor, members of

2098
01:02:18,750 --> 01:02:21,453
the council, we have a general

2099
01:02:21,453 --> 01:02:23,121
nuisance abatement for 1649

2100
01:02:23,121 --> 01:02:26,121
Hillview. And if that sounds

2101
01:02:26,324 --> 01:02:27,392
familiar, that is because this

2102
01:02:27,392 --> 01:02:29,792
property up in northern

2103
01:02:30,962 --> 01:02:33,640
Shoreview was at council JULY

2104
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:34,966
20th for a tall grass and weeds.

2105
01:02:34,966 --> 01:02:36,401
And as I just mentioned,

2106
01:02:36,401 --> 01:02:37,569
sometimes the outside storage

2107
01:02:37,569 --> 01:02:38,937
and the refuse takes a little

2108
01:02:38,937 --> 01:02:41,506
bit longer to get through the

2109
01:02:41,506 --> 01:02:43,108
process. We have not been able

2110
01:02:43,108 --> 01:02:44,776
to abate that tall grass and

2111
01:02:44,776 --> 01:02:45,777
weeds because of the refuse and

2112
01:02:45,777 --> 01:02:48,800
outside storage on this

2113
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,820
property, and so that is part

2114
01:02:50,820 --> 01:02:52,217
of why we want to do the

2115
01:02:52,217 --> 01:02:55,200
abatement, so we can get that

2116
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,420
property maintenance and tall

2117
01:02:59,124 --> 01:03:00,192
grass violations taken care of.

2118
01:03:00,192 --> 01:03:01,260
And as you can see from the

2119
01:03:01,260 --> 01:03:03,620
pictures, there are outside

2120
01:03:03,620 --> 01:03:04,196
storage violations, general

2121
01:03:04,196 --> 01:03:06,596
property maintenance and then

2122
01:03:06,632 --> 01:03:07,733
refuge storage. So there are

2123
01:03:07,733 --> 01:03:09,168
lots of things out there,

2124
01:03:09,168 --> 01:03:11,337
including a Baxter which has

2125
01:03:11,337 --> 01:03:12,771
been there pretty much the

2126
01:03:12,771 --> 01:03:14,573
whole summer, and then the tall

2127
01:03:14,573 --> 01:03:18,110
grass and weeds is also pretty

2128
01:03:18,110 --> 01:03:18,911
significant at this point. Um,

2129
01:03:18,911 --> 01:03:20,113
so again, it

2130
01:03:20,113 --> 01:03:22,113
s violations of

2131
01:03:22,882 --> 01:03:25,282
city code section 2841 outside

2132
01:03:27,253 --> 01:03:29,121
storage city code, section 286,

2133
01:03:29,121 --> 01:03:31,521
a general property maintenance

2134
01:03:31,524 --> 01:03:33,259
and then city code section 32-2

2135
01:03:33,259 --> 01:03:34,960
refuse storage. And then the

2136
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:36,529
abatement procedure is the same

2137
01:03:36,529 --> 01:03:37,463
as the previous abatement,

2138
01:03:37,463 --> 01:03:38,965
where we did give a

2139
01:03:38,965 --> 01:03:40,466
notification and the hearing

2140
01:03:40,466 --> 01:03:42,134
process. So it was delivered in

2141
01:03:42,134 --> 01:03:42,935
writing. There was a time frame

2142
01:03:42,935 --> 01:03:44,170
given to correct the

2143
01:03:44,170 --> 01:03:46,606
conditions, and there was the

2144
01:03:46,606 --> 01:03:48,107
notice of the hearing. The

2145
01:03:48,107 --> 01:03:50,276
property was sent letters

2146
01:03:50,276 --> 01:03:52,676
regarding the outside storage.

2147
01:03:53,790 --> 01:03:54,514
Starting in APRIL and MAY. Uh

2148
01:03:54,514 --> 01:03:56,216
administrative citation was

2149
01:03:56,216 --> 01:03:57,350
given in JUNE. The tall grass

2150
01:03:57,350 --> 01:03:58,918
and weeds were approved for

2151
01:03:58,918 --> 01:04:01,387
abatement JULY 20th, which the

2152
01:04:01,387 --> 01:04:03,890
property owner did contact us

2153
01:04:03,890 --> 01:04:04,900
to ask for an extension on

2154
01:04:04,900 --> 01:04:06,325
taking care of the property

2155
01:04:06,325 --> 01:04:07,794
with their family member. We

2156
01:04:07,794 --> 01:04:08,661
did grant an extension, which

2157
01:04:08,661 --> 01:04:09,495
is part of why it

2158
01:04:09,495 --> 01:04:11,495
s SEPTEMBER

2159
01:04:12,499 --> 01:04:13,566
now and nothing has been taken

2160
01:04:13,566 --> 01:04:17,166
care of. So we move forward

2161
01:04:17,270 --> 01:04:17,604
with the abatement. So we

2162
01:04:17,604 --> 01:04:18,671
re

2163
01:04:18,671 --> 01:04:21,574
asking that you hold a hearing

2164
01:04:21,574 --> 01:04:22,742
and adopt resolution 2674,

2165
01:04:22,742 --> 01:04:23,943
approving the abatement for the

2166
01:04:23,943 --> 01:04:25,912
nuisance conditions on the

2167
01:04:25,912 --> 01:04:27,314
property and then costs

2168
01:04:27,314 --> 01:04:28,448
associated will be billed to

2169
01:04:28,448 --> 01:04:30,850
the property owner and assessed

2170
01:04:30,850 --> 01:04:33,486
to the property, if not paid.

2171
01:04:33,486 --> 01:04:37,230
So in this situation, have we

2172
01:04:37,230 --> 01:04:37,824
heard from them recently?

2173
01:04:37,824 --> 01:04:39,824
We have not.

2174
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,395
Okay. And as I this almost

2175
01:04:42,395 --> 01:04:44,970
sounds like someone maybe who

2176
01:04:44,970 --> 01:04:44,364
is dependent on someone else,

2177
01:04:44,364 --> 01:04:46,990
but they

2178
01:04:46,990 --> 01:04:48,499
ve also not responded

2179
01:04:48,869 --> 01:04:51,104
to, uh, you know, an offer for

2180
01:04:51,104 --> 01:04:52,406
assistance or to contact. Well,

2181
01:04:52,406 --> 01:04:53,840
when you spoke with them.

2182
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:55,800
They said that a family member

2183
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:55,976
would be assisting them. You

2184
01:04:55,976 --> 01:04:57,577
know, they just needed a couple

2185
01:04:57,577 --> 01:04:59,213
of weekends to take care of it.

2186
01:04:59,213 --> 01:05:00,447
Okay. And, you know, that was

2187
01:05:00,447 --> 01:05:03,684
in regards to the tall grass

2188
01:05:03,684 --> 01:05:04,718
and weeds. And we let them know

2189
01:05:04,718 --> 01:05:05,953
if they took care of

2190
01:05:05,953 --> 01:05:06,920
everything. We wouldn

2191
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:07,721
t abate

2192
01:05:07,721 --> 01:05:09,890
it, you know? Okay. It

2193
01:05:09,890 --> 01:05:09,957
s just

2194
01:05:09,957 --> 01:05:10,424
we will if they don

2195
01:05:10,424 --> 01:05:12,193
t take care

2196
01:05:12,193 --> 01:05:13,594
of it. And unfortunately we

2197
01:05:13,594 --> 01:05:15,162
have not heard, nor have we

2198
01:05:15,162 --> 01:05:16,563
seen any action.

2199
01:05:16,563 --> 01:05:18,232
Okay.

2200
01:05:18,232 --> 01:05:21,832
Um, but someone is living in

2201
01:05:22,303 --> 01:05:24,304
the we think, okay. Um, so

2202
01:05:24,304 --> 01:05:26,807
again, I will ask if anyone is

2203
01:05:26,807 --> 01:05:30,377
here to speak to the property

2204
01:05:30,377 --> 01:05:30,978
at 1649 Hillview Road, and it

2205
01:05:30,978 --> 01:05:32,978
appears that it

2206
01:05:34,248 --> 01:05:36,648
s not the case.

2207
01:05:37,117 --> 01:05:38,753
So I think and again, with

2208
01:05:38,753 --> 01:05:41,522
abatements, you know, there MAY

2209
01:05:41,522 --> 01:05:42,990
be circumstances, but there is

2210
01:05:42,990 --> 01:05:44,859
help available. And I know

2211
01:05:44,859 --> 01:05:47,194
residents have taken advantage

2212
01:05:47,194 --> 01:05:49,396
of that in the past. Um, so I

2213
01:05:49,396 --> 01:05:50,731
think when we think about city

2214
01:05:50,731 --> 01:05:53,731
staff and getting some movement

2215
01:05:54,769 --> 01:05:55,937
here, um, abatement still gives

2216
01:05:55,937 --> 01:05:58,337
the property owner an

2217
01:05:59,106 --> 01:06:00,708
opportunity to contact the city

2218
01:06:00,708 --> 01:06:02,677
to work something out. Um,

2219
01:06:02,677 --> 01:06:04,446
although that would need to be

2220
01:06:04,446 --> 01:06:05,313
quickly because that, uh,

2221
01:06:05,313 --> 01:06:06,470
another thing is it

2222
01:06:06,470 --> 01:06:07,215
s sometimes

2223
01:06:07,215 --> 01:06:08,583
is very difficult with these

2224
01:06:08,583 --> 01:06:10,619
because you assume that people

2225
01:06:10,619 --> 01:06:13,154
maybe are not able to do it,

2226
01:06:13,154 --> 01:06:14,689
etc.. Um, but also letting the

2227
01:06:14,689 --> 01:06:15,991
properties go like that is very

2228
01:06:15,991 --> 01:06:17,792
upsetting to a lot of other

2229
01:06:17,792 --> 01:06:20,561
people who sometimes think the

2230
01:06:20,561 --> 01:06:21,930
city does not do enough. Um, so

2231
01:06:21,930 --> 01:06:22,330
we always have to keep that in

2232
01:06:22,330 --> 01:06:23,197
mind. If we

2233
01:06:23,197 --> 01:06:24,599
ve made every

2234
01:06:24,599 --> 01:06:26,467
opportunity to contact, which

2235
01:06:26,467 --> 01:06:27,702
it sounds like we have. So

2236
01:06:27,702 --> 01:06:29,704
hopefully the property owner

2237
01:06:29,704 --> 01:06:31,373
will come forward and get some

2238
01:06:31,373 --> 01:06:31,573
ongoing assistance if they

2239
01:06:31,573 --> 01:06:32,640
aren

2240
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:33,700
t in fact not able to

2241
01:06:33,700 --> 01:06:33,975
manage.

2242
01:06:33,975 --> 01:06:35,975
It.

2243
01:06:36,177 --> 01:06:36,945
Um, so any other council

2244
01:06:36,945 --> 01:06:37,479
comments?

2245
01:06:37,479 --> 01:06:38,746
No.

2246
01:06:38,746 --> 01:06:39,514
All right. Would anyone like to

2247
01:06:39,514 --> 01:06:39,881
make a motion.

2248
01:06:39,881 --> 01:06:40,849
On this? I

2249
01:06:40,849 --> 01:06:42,650
d like to make a

2250
01:06:42,650 --> 01:06:45,500
motion to adopt resolution

2251
01:06:46,870 --> 01:06:47,689
number 26, dash 74, approving

2252
01:06:47,689 --> 01:06:49,424
the abatement of a public

2253
01:06:49,424 --> 01:06:51,824
nuisance for the property

2254
01:06:52,727 --> 01:06:53,361
located at 1649 Hillview Road.

2255
01:06:53,361 --> 01:06:54,529
Second.

2256
01:06:54,529 --> 01:06:55,964
Okay, we have a motion by

2257
01:06:55,964 --> 01:06:57,799
council member Maryland with a

2258
01:06:57,799 --> 01:07:00,799
second by council member Doan

2259
01:07:01,970 --> 01:07:03,972
to adopt resolution number 2674

2260
01:07:03,972 --> 01:07:05,707
regarding of abatement at 1649

2261
01:07:05,707 --> 01:07:06,374
Hillview Road. All in favor,

2262
01:07:06,374 --> 01:07:06,808
please say aye.

2263
01:07:06,808 --> 01:07:08,808
Aye.

2264
01:07:09,444 --> 01:07:12,180
All opposed. Same sign. Motion

2265
01:07:12,180 --> 01:07:14,683
passes 5 to 0. Thank you very

2266
01:07:14,683 --> 01:07:15,183
much, MISS Hill.

2267
01:07:15,183 --> 01:07:17,183
Mayor.

2268
01:07:17,185 --> 01:07:17,819
Just a point of information.

2269
01:07:17,819 --> 01:07:19,819
Yes.

2270
01:07:20,789 --> 01:07:22,570
Um, wanted to ask. I know that

2271
01:07:22,570 --> 01:07:24,760
for particularly for the tall

2272
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:26,929
weeds and grass, uh, we

2273
01:07:26,929 --> 01:07:28,997
typically get those during the

2274
01:07:28,997 --> 01:07:30,265
summertime, maybe late spring

2275
01:07:30,265 --> 01:07:30,766
or early summer. We get a slew

2276
01:07:30,766 --> 01:07:31,990
of them, and then we

2277
01:07:31,990 --> 01:07:33,990
re getting

2278
01:07:33,402 --> 01:07:36,271
another round right now. I was

2279
01:07:36,271 --> 01:07:37,840
wondering, um, for these

2280
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:39,174
abatements, if we

2281
01:07:39,174 --> 01:07:41,174
re seeing an

2282
01:07:41,377 --> 01:07:42,878
increase in them this year

2283
01:07:42,878 --> 01:07:43,913
versus in previous years,

2284
01:07:43,913 --> 01:07:44,113
because it does feel like we

2285
01:07:44,113 --> 01:07:46,113
ve

2286
01:07:46,348 --> 01:07:47,316
seen more, or at least, um, I

2287
01:07:47,316 --> 01:07:48,217
feel like we

2288
01:07:48,217 --> 01:07:48,384
ve been talking

2289
01:07:48,384 --> 01:07:49,952
we

2290
01:07:49,952 --> 01:07:51,860
ve had more in our agenda

2291
01:07:51,860 --> 01:07:52,955
and wanted to kind of see what

2292
01:07:52,955 --> 01:07:53,622
the trend line is over the last

2293
01:07:53,622 --> 01:07:54,890
few years, and it

2294
01:07:54,890 --> 01:07:55,357
s nothing

2295
01:07:55,357 --> 01:07:56,492
that we need to answer tonight.

2296
01:07:56,492 --> 01:07:58,828
I just wanted to understand

2297
01:07:58,828 --> 01:08:01,364
kind of if there are trends

2298
01:08:01,364 --> 01:08:02,931
going on here that we are able

2299
01:08:02,931 --> 01:08:04,700
to capture them and understand

2300
01:08:04,700 --> 01:08:06,700
why that is.

2301
01:08:06,869 --> 01:08:07,970
Okay.

2302
01:08:07,970 --> 01:08:08,637
Do you want to follow up later

2303
01:08:08,637 --> 01:08:10,473
or do you have.

2304
01:08:10,473 --> 01:08:12,508
Staff can certainly look into

2305
01:08:12,508 --> 01:08:14,944
that. Um, to see and that can

2306
01:08:14,944 --> 01:08:15,912
be uh, update at the next eda

2307
01:08:15,912 --> 01:08:17,460
meeting as we have kind of a

2308
01:08:17,460 --> 01:08:18,247
code enforcement property

2309
01:08:18,247 --> 01:08:20,247
maintenance update.

2310
01:08:20,516 --> 01:08:23,516
Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

2311
01:08:23,853 --> 01:08:25,621
Okay, so our next item is, um,

2312
01:08:25,621 --> 01:08:27,156
ten d, which is a resolution

2313
01:08:27,156 --> 01:08:28,458
amending open appointment

2314
01:08:28,458 --> 01:08:30,858
policy for committees and

2315
01:08:30,993 --> 01:08:32,395
commissions. And it is being

2316
01:08:32,395 --> 01:08:34,386
presented tonight by our

2317
01:08:34,386 --> 01:08:34,495
assistant City manager, Renee

2318
01:08:34,495 --> 01:08:35,698
Eisenberg.

2319
01:08:35,698 --> 01:08:36,666
Thank you, Mayor and city

2320
01:08:36,666 --> 01:08:37,660
Council, tonight you

2321
01:08:37,660 --> 01:08:38,701
re being

2322
01:08:38,701 --> 01:08:40,737
asked to approve an amendment

2323
01:08:40,737 --> 01:08:43,606
to our current open appointment

2324
01:08:43,606 --> 01:08:45,975
policy for our advisory boards.

2325
01:08:45,975 --> 01:08:47,210
So just some quick background.

2326
01:08:47,210 --> 01:08:48,778
The city is incredibly

2327
01:08:48,778 --> 01:08:50,513
fortunate to have residents who

2328
01:08:50,513 --> 01:08:52,315
are actively engaged in our

2329
01:08:52,315 --> 01:08:53,750
community, either through our

2330
01:08:53,750 --> 01:08:55,885
nine advisory boards that the

2331
01:08:55,885 --> 01:08:59,189
city has or many of our

2332
01:08:59,189 --> 01:09:00,857
community organizations. And

2333
01:09:00,857 --> 01:09:01,570
over the past few years, the

2334
01:09:01,570 --> 01:09:02,292
city

2335
01:09:02,292 --> 01:09:04,930
s strategic goals or

2336
01:09:04,930 --> 01:09:05,829
priorities have included an

2337
01:09:05,829 --> 01:09:07,163
effort to cultivate future

2338
01:09:07,163 --> 01:09:09,132
leaders from our advisory

2339
01:09:09,132 --> 01:09:11,101
boards. And this includes

2340
01:09:11,101 --> 01:09:12,603
balancing the experience and

2341
01:09:12,603 --> 01:09:13,904
institutional knowledge of long

2342
01:09:13,904 --> 01:09:15,605
term members, while also

2343
01:09:15,605 --> 01:09:17,540
providing opportunities for new

2344
01:09:17,540 --> 01:09:20,277
voices. So to help with that,

2345
01:09:20,277 --> 01:09:22,120
the city sent a letter in 2021

2346
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:23,413
to all advisory board members

2347
01:09:23,413 --> 01:09:25,150
asking them to keep this goal

2348
01:09:25,150 --> 01:09:27,415
in mind when considering

2349
01:09:27,517 --> 01:09:29,586
reappointment. And tonight, the

2350
01:09:29,586 --> 01:09:30,687
council or sorry the council

2351
01:09:30,687 --> 01:09:32,656
has reviewed the current

2352
01:09:32,656 --> 01:09:33,791
structure recommendations at

2353
01:09:33,791 --> 01:09:35,826
their APRIL and AUGUST

2354
01:09:35,826 --> 01:09:37,294
workshops this year. Um, and

2355
01:09:37,294 --> 01:09:40,294
based on that discussion, we

2356
01:09:40,531 --> 01:09:42,566
are bringing forward a amended

2357
01:09:42,566 --> 01:09:44,368
resolution, um, to our open

2358
01:09:44,368 --> 01:09:45,936
appointment policy. So our

2359
01:09:45,936 --> 01:09:48,336
current advisory boards, we

2360
01:09:48,372 --> 01:09:50,908
have nine, um, several of them

2361
01:09:50,908 --> 01:09:52,309
are committees which are

2362
01:09:52,309 --> 01:09:53,811
created by resolution to

2363
01:09:53,811 --> 01:09:55,979
provide input in specific

2364
01:09:55,979 --> 01:09:57,548
areas. And then four of them

2365
01:09:57,548 --> 01:09:59,917
are commissions which are

2366
01:09:59,917 --> 01:10:02,860
created by ordinance to provide

2367
01:10:02,860 --> 01:10:03,854
ongoing input and major policy

2368
01:10:03,854 --> 01:10:05,323
areas. We also have the

2369
01:10:05,323 --> 01:10:06,523
Economic Development Authority

2370
01:10:06,523 --> 01:10:08,659
Board and the Snail Lake

2371
01:10:08,659 --> 01:10:10,728
Improvement District Board. And

2372
01:10:10,728 --> 01:10:12,530
just a note that these

2373
01:10:12,530 --> 01:10:13,764
recommended changes are not

2374
01:10:13,764 --> 01:10:15,299
going to be for the Snail Lake

2375
01:10:15,299 --> 01:10:17,299
Improvement District board

2376
01:10:17,568 --> 01:10:19,570
because they do have a resident

2377
01:10:19,570 --> 01:10:21,372
requirement that they, um,

2378
01:10:21,372 --> 01:10:24,972
board members live in the Snail

2379
01:10:25,142 --> 01:10:26,844
Lake Improvement District. So

2380
01:10:26,844 --> 01:10:29,244
our current appointment policy

2381
01:10:30,470 --> 01:10:31,649
was approved in 2015 and allows

2382
01:10:31,649 --> 01:10:33,284
most board members to be

2383
01:10:33,284 --> 01:10:35,284
reappointed an indefinite

2384
01:10:35,552 --> 01:10:37,880
amount of times. The eda and

2385
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:39,423
Planning Commission members are

2386
01:10:39,423 --> 01:10:41,526
the only ones with a different

2387
01:10:41,526 --> 01:10:43,526
reappointment policy process,

2388
01:10:44,429 --> 01:10:46,640
and where after one full term

2389
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:47,598
on the eda, which is six years

2390
01:10:47,598 --> 01:10:48,666
or two full terms on the

2391
01:10:48,666 --> 01:10:50,401
Planning Commission, which is

2392
01:10:50,401 --> 01:10:52,136
six years, members have to

2393
01:10:52,136 --> 01:10:53,905
reapply if they wish to be

2394
01:10:53,905 --> 01:10:55,139
reappointed, and then the city

2395
01:10:55,139 --> 01:10:56,875
council considers those

2396
01:10:56,875 --> 01:10:59,110
applications with any new

2397
01:10:59,110 --> 01:11:00,578
applicants. So the policy also

2398
01:11:00,578 --> 01:11:02,247
outlines where and how long we

2399
01:11:02,247 --> 01:11:04,247
advertise openings. So

2400
01:11:04,382 --> 01:11:05,951
currently we identify members

2401
01:11:05,951 --> 01:11:07,519
who want to be reappointed in

2402
01:11:07,519 --> 01:11:09,821
early SEPTEMBER by sending out

2403
01:11:09,821 --> 01:11:11,823
an email. Based on the

2404
01:11:11,823 --> 01:11:14,459
responses we get, we advertise

2405
01:11:14,459 --> 01:11:16,294
any openings in OCTOBER through

2406
01:11:16,294 --> 01:11:17,662
NOVEMBER. And then advisory

2407
01:11:17,662 --> 01:11:19,531
boards typically review and

2408
01:11:19,531 --> 01:11:21,931
interview applicants and bring

2409
01:11:22,330 --> 01:11:24,330
forward recommendations.

2410
01:11:24,436 --> 01:11:25,737
DECEMBER and JANUARY, um, and

2411
01:11:25,737 --> 01:11:27,500
then City Council considers

2412
01:11:27,500 --> 01:11:28,340
reappointment as well as

2413
01:11:28,340 --> 01:11:30,340
recommended appointments in

2414
01:11:31,409 --> 01:11:33,809
JANUARY and FEBRUARY. This

2415
01:11:33,879 --> 01:11:36,815
graph here shows our membership

2416
01:11:36,815 --> 01:11:39,815
from 2021 through now. And it

2417
01:11:41,453 --> 01:11:44,289
shows on the the, um, the dark

2418
01:11:44,289 --> 01:11:46,858
blue, um, is members who have

2419
01:11:46,858 --> 01:11:49,995
served two terms or less. The

2420
01:11:49,995 --> 01:11:51,863
next blue is 3 to 4 terms. The

2421
01:11:51,863 --> 01:11:54,132
lighter blue is 5 to 6 terms.

2422
01:11:54,132 --> 01:11:56,100
And then the green is seven or

2423
01:11:56,100 --> 01:11:56,234
more terms. And now as you can

2424
01:11:56,234 --> 01:11:57,703
see, we

2425
01:11:57,703 --> 01:11:59,338
ve seen an increase in

2426
01:11:59,338 --> 01:12:02,338
members serving seven or more

2427
01:12:02,674 --> 01:12:05,740
terms since 2021. This graph

2428
01:12:05,778 --> 01:12:06,745
shows our members who resigned

2429
01:12:06,745 --> 01:12:07,379
mid term or didn

2430
01:12:07,379 --> 01:12:08,981
t seek

2431
01:12:08,981 --> 01:12:10,215
reappointment, along with a

2432
01:12:10,215 --> 01:12:10,382
number of applications that

2433
01:12:10,382 --> 01:12:12,184
we

2434
01:12:12,184 --> 01:12:13,252
ve received each year and

2435
01:12:13,252 --> 01:12:13,419
the number of applications

2436
01:12:13,419 --> 01:12:15,287
we

2437
01:12:15,287 --> 01:12:16,956
ve received is in the dark

2438
01:12:16,956 --> 01:12:19,291
green on the right hand side

2439
01:12:19,291 --> 01:12:20,459
for each year. And it

2440
01:12:20,459 --> 01:12:22,328
s very

2441
01:12:22,328 --> 01:12:24,163
often that we have more

2442
01:12:24,163 --> 01:12:25,764
applicants than we have open

2443
01:12:25,764 --> 01:12:28,330
seats. So, as you can see, in

2444
01:12:28,330 --> 01:12:31,330
2025, we had four openings and

2445
01:12:33,272 --> 01:12:35,740
we received 18 applications. So

2446
01:12:35,740 --> 01:12:36,542
over the course of the last

2447
01:12:36,542 --> 01:12:37,943
year, uh, staff have been

2448
01:12:37,943 --> 01:12:39,311
researching and they surveyed

2449
01:12:39,311 --> 01:12:41,247
benchmark communities to see

2450
01:12:41,247 --> 01:12:43,849
how they handle term limits.

2451
01:12:43,849 --> 01:12:45,885
And the majority of cities have

2452
01:12:45,885 --> 01:12:48,200
a average term limit of three

2453
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:49,655
terms. And two also allow

2454
01:12:49,655 --> 01:12:51,657
members to reapply to the same

2455
01:12:51,657 --> 01:12:53,726
board after a year long break.

2456
01:12:53,726 --> 01:12:55,495
So in APRIL, staff presented

2457
01:12:55,495 --> 01:12:57,130
five options during the APRIL

2458
01:12:57,130 --> 01:12:59,232
workshop, each having a list of

2459
01:12:59,232 --> 01:13:00,867
pros and cons they were

2460
01:13:00,867 --> 01:13:02,668
implemented term limit of three

2461
01:13:02,668 --> 01:13:04,270
full terms. Implements a term

2462
01:13:04,270 --> 01:13:06,105
limit of three full terms, with

2463
01:13:06,105 --> 01:13:08,775
an option to reapply after a

2464
01:13:08,775 --> 01:13:10,376
few years. Require all members

2465
01:13:10,376 --> 01:13:11,544
to reapply after two full

2466
01:13:11,544 --> 01:13:13,479
terms, so that would follow.

2467
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,415
The Planning Commission process

2468
01:13:15,415 --> 01:13:17,584
or implement a hybrid approach

2469
01:13:17,584 --> 01:13:19,520
for committee and commission

2470
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,187
members, or continue our

2471
01:13:21,187 --> 01:13:23,323
current practice. And based on

2472
01:13:23,323 --> 01:13:25,580
the discussion, staff are

2473
01:13:25,580 --> 01:13:26,559
recommending option two, which

2474
01:13:26,559 --> 01:13:28,610
is implement the term limit of

2475
01:13:28,610 --> 01:13:29,829
three full terms, with an

2476
01:13:29,829 --> 01:13:32,966
option to reply after a two

2477
01:13:32,966 --> 01:13:34,501
year hiatus and that option to

2478
01:13:34,501 --> 01:13:35,935
reapply is if they want to

2479
01:13:35,935 --> 01:13:38,400
continue serving on the same

2480
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:39,606
board. If they want to serve on

2481
01:13:39,606 --> 01:13:40,774
one of our other advisory

2482
01:13:40,774 --> 01:13:43,174
boards, they can certainly

2483
01:13:45,345 --> 01:13:47,214
apply immediately. Um, so the

2484
01:13:47,214 --> 01:13:48,915
revised open appointment policy

2485
01:13:48,915 --> 01:13:50,517
is in your packet. The majority

2486
01:13:50,517 --> 01:13:52,519
of the changes reflect plain

2487
01:13:52,519 --> 01:13:54,254
language practices. And then

2488
01:13:54,254 --> 01:13:55,789
term limits are being added to

2489
01:13:55,789 --> 01:13:57,789
the former reappointment

2490
01:13:58,291 --> 01:14:00,691
section. So starting in

2491
01:14:01,261 --> 01:14:02,963
FEBRUARY in 2027, the city will

2492
01:14:02,963 --> 01:14:05,650
follow two processes for term

2493
01:14:05,650 --> 01:14:06,299
limits and reappointment. As

2494
01:14:06,299 --> 01:14:07,935
noted, the eda and Planning

2495
01:14:07,935 --> 01:14:09,503
Commission will continue their

2496
01:14:09,503 --> 01:14:10,971
current process, where members

2497
01:14:10,971 --> 01:14:12,939
have to reapply if they wish to

2498
01:14:12,939 --> 01:14:13,106
be reappointed, and then we

2499
01:14:13,106 --> 01:14:14,408
ll

2500
01:14:14,408 --> 01:14:16,276
be considered with any other

2501
01:14:16,276 --> 01:14:18,212
applicants. All other boards

2502
01:14:18,212 --> 01:14:19,780
will have a term limit of three

2503
01:14:19,780 --> 01:14:20,948
full terms, with an option to

2504
01:14:20,948 --> 01:14:23,948
reapply after a two year

2505
01:14:24,218 --> 01:14:27,121
absence, and so that impacts, I

2506
01:14:27,121 --> 01:14:29,390
believe, six of our nine boards

2507
01:14:29,390 --> 01:14:30,891
and some members, by saying

2508
01:14:30,891 --> 01:14:32,893
three full terms, they MAY

2509
01:14:32,893 --> 01:14:34,628
serve longer than nine years if

2510
01:14:34,628 --> 01:14:38,228
they were appointed to fill a

2511
01:14:40,340 --> 01:14:41,469
term mid term. Um, so by

2512
01:14:41,469 --> 01:14:43,869
implementing the term limits

2513
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:45,806
FEBRUARY 1st, 2027. And the

2514
01:14:45,806 --> 01:14:47,908
reason we chose FEBRUARY 1st is

2515
01:14:47,908 --> 01:14:49,944
because our current terms for

2516
01:14:49,944 --> 01:14:53,514
members whose terms are up in

2517
01:14:53,514 --> 01:14:55,316
JANUARY and JANUARY 31st, 2027,

2518
01:14:55,316 --> 01:14:56,817
so then that would allow those

2519
01:14:56,817 --> 01:14:58,285
eight members to be able to

2520
01:14:58,285 --> 01:15:00,685
seek reappointment for one

2521
01:15:01,122 --> 01:15:03,257
final term in 2027. So then if

2522
01:15:03,257 --> 01:15:05,560
they did, their final term

2523
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,195
would be completed 2030. Um,

2524
01:15:07,195 --> 01:15:08,663
and then three members will not

2525
01:15:08,663 --> 01:15:11,663
be able to seek reappointment

2526
01:15:11,699 --> 01:15:12,500
in 2028, and nine members will

2527
01:15:12,500 --> 01:15:14,402
not be able to seek

2528
01:15:14,402 --> 01:15:16,402
reappointment in 2029. I

2529
01:15:16,771 --> 01:15:19,106
apologize for that typo. Um,

2530
01:15:19,106 --> 01:15:21,420
uh, staff have are recommending

2531
01:15:21,420 --> 01:15:22,610
a phased communications plan,

2532
01:15:22,610 --> 01:15:24,610
which includes personal

2533
01:15:24,812 --> 01:15:26,814
outreach to 14 members who have

2534
01:15:26,814 --> 01:15:29,183
served ten or more years. And

2535
01:15:29,183 --> 01:15:31,119
then, um, five separate letters

2536
01:15:31,119 --> 01:15:33,880
to all members based on

2537
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:34,889
different scenarios in terms of

2538
01:15:34,889 --> 01:15:37,425
where they fit in throughout

2539
01:15:37,425 --> 01:15:38,960
the options. And those would

2540
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:40,895
take place. The personal

2541
01:15:40,895 --> 01:15:42,697
outreach and the letters this

2542
01:15:42,697 --> 01:15:44,432
month, and then we would begin

2543
01:15:44,432 --> 01:15:46,334
advertising in OCTOBER to

2544
01:15:46,334 --> 01:15:47,335
follow that same timeline of

2545
01:15:47,335 --> 01:15:49,137
bringing forward

2546
01:15:49,137 --> 01:15:51,537
recommendations in JANUARY and

2547
01:15:51,806 --> 01:15:52,807
FEBRUARY. So with that, staff

2548
01:15:52,807 --> 01:15:55,207
are recommending that the

2549
01:15:55,644 --> 01:15:58,440
council provide or approve

2550
01:15:58,113 --> 01:16:00,113
resolution 2669, amending

2551
01:16:00,716 --> 01:16:01,784
resolution 1505, the open

2552
01:16:01,784 --> 01:16:03,351
Appointment Policy for

2553
01:16:03,351 --> 01:16:03,485
Committees and Commissions.

2554
01:16:03,485 --> 01:16:05,420
I

2555
01:16:05,420 --> 01:16:07,820
ll take any questions.

2556
01:16:08,157 --> 01:16:10,725
So do most of the other than

2557
01:16:10,725 --> 01:16:12,527
the Ed, a Economic development

2558
01:16:12,527 --> 01:16:13,995
Authority and Planning

2559
01:16:13,995 --> 01:16:15,264
Commission. Um, so putting

2560
01:16:15,264 --> 01:16:16,498
those aside are all of the

2561
01:16:16,498 --> 01:16:18,266
other committees or

2562
01:16:18,266 --> 01:16:19,268
commissions, are they all two

2563
01:16:19,268 --> 01:16:20,369
year terms or for.

2564
01:16:20,369 --> 01:16:21,637
Their three year terms?

2565
01:16:21,637 --> 01:16:24,637
Three year terms? Okay. All

2566
01:16:24,773 --> 01:16:25,841
right. So somebody that was

2567
01:16:25,841 --> 01:16:27,142
applying would have the

2568
01:16:27,142 --> 01:16:28,510
opportunity to serve on

2569
01:16:28,510 --> 01:16:30,546
something for six years. And if

2570
01:16:30,546 --> 01:16:31,847
they were if they were

2571
01:16:31,847 --> 01:16:33,749
replacing someone who had to

2572
01:16:33,749 --> 01:16:35,217
leave mid-term, they would

2573
01:16:35,217 --> 01:16:36,952
finish theirs out.

2574
01:16:36,952 --> 01:16:38,253
So they would apply for a three

2575
01:16:38,253 --> 01:16:40,322
year term. Our planning

2576
01:16:40,322 --> 01:16:41,957
commission is also three years,

2577
01:16:41,957 --> 01:16:43,325
um, the Economic Development

2578
01:16:43,325 --> 01:16:43,825
Authority. The reason that six

2579
01:16:43,825 --> 01:16:44,893
years is it

2580
01:16:44,893 --> 01:16:46,495
s outlined in state

2581
01:16:46,495 --> 01:16:47,730
statutes that those terms have

2582
01:16:47,730 --> 01:16:49,966
to be six years, but the

2583
01:16:49,966 --> 01:16:52,467
remainder are three years. So,

2584
01:16:52,467 --> 01:16:54,436
um, residents and members can

2585
01:16:54,436 --> 01:16:56,438
apply for a three year term.

2586
01:16:56,438 --> 01:16:58,700
Occasionally we will have

2587
01:16:58,700 --> 01:16:59,475
resignations, as I had shown

2588
01:16:59,475 --> 01:17:00,443
mid-term. So then we

2589
01:17:00,443 --> 01:17:02,443
ll, um,

2590
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,800
advertise for those openings as

2591
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:06,882
well. So they MAY be appointed

2592
01:17:06,882 --> 01:17:08,684
for, you know, one and a half

2593
01:17:08,684 --> 01:17:10,920
years and then they can seek

2594
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,723
reappointment for a full three

2595
01:17:13,723 --> 01:17:15,758
year term at the end of their

2596
01:17:15,758 --> 01:17:16,526
term that they were appointed

2597
01:17:16,526 --> 01:17:17,793
to mid term.

2598
01:17:17,793 --> 01:17:19,495
But they would be limited to

2599
01:17:19,495 --> 01:17:21,297
that partial year term or

2600
01:17:21,297 --> 01:17:23,297
partial term.

2601
01:17:23,533 --> 01:17:24,500
And that would not count in the

2602
01:17:24,500 --> 01:17:25,268
counting. The three.

2603
01:17:25,268 --> 01:17:27,203
Counts to.

2604
01:17:27,203 --> 01:17:29,205
If so, they could um.

2605
01:17:29,205 --> 01:17:31,605
Potentially they could serve

2606
01:17:32,475 --> 01:17:34,510
nine or more years, potentially

2607
01:17:34,510 --> 01:17:34,810
between 9 and 11 years. Um.

2608
01:17:34,810 --> 01:17:35,779
If they.

2609
01:17:35,779 --> 01:17:37,146
Were appointed, if they were

2610
01:17:37,146 --> 01:17:38,748
appointed for their first term

2611
01:17:38,748 --> 01:17:39,115
mid-term. Okay. If that makes

2612
01:17:39,115 --> 01:17:41,115
sense.

2613
01:17:42,152 --> 01:17:44,552
Okay. It just does.

2614
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:48,758
So, um, and again, uh, well,

2615
01:17:48,758 --> 01:17:51,995
maybe you could talk about how

2616
01:17:51,995 --> 01:17:52,595
the process kind of initiated,

2617
01:17:52,595 --> 01:17:53,229
um, I know we

2618
01:17:53,229 --> 01:17:54,798
ve seen an

2619
01:17:54,798 --> 01:17:54,964
increase in the time that I

2620
01:17:54,964 --> 01:17:56,650
ve

2621
01:17:56,650 --> 01:17:58,301
been involved in council

2622
01:17:58,301 --> 01:18:00,700
because of, I think a lot of it

2623
01:18:00,700 --> 01:18:01,304
was initiated by the Citizens

2624
01:18:01,304 --> 01:18:01,504
Academy or the leadership.

2625
01:18:01,504 --> 01:18:02,839
What

2626
01:18:02,839 --> 01:18:04,408
s now the Leadership

2627
01:18:04,408 --> 01:18:05,909
Academy, because people were

2628
01:18:05,909 --> 01:18:08,244
coming to that and then wanted

2629
01:18:08,244 --> 01:18:10,480
to be able to use that either

2630
01:18:10,480 --> 01:18:12,182
to, you know, volunteer for the

2631
01:18:12,182 --> 01:18:13,516
city or maybe eventually they

2632
01:18:13,516 --> 01:18:14,751
thought they might want to, you

2633
01:18:14,751 --> 01:18:16,553
know, run for office or

2634
01:18:16,553 --> 01:18:16,720
something like that. But so

2635
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:17,454
we

2636
01:18:17,454 --> 01:18:18,989
ve seen a heightened

2637
01:18:18,989 --> 01:18:19,122
interest, I know, from when

2638
01:18:19,122 --> 01:18:21,122
I

2639
01:18:21,424 --> 01:18:22,225
ve been on the council, um,

2640
01:18:22,225 --> 01:18:23,527
so, yeah.

2641
01:18:23,527 --> 01:18:27,127
And so this graph just goes

2642
01:18:27,297 --> 01:18:29,800
back to 2022, but um, probably

2643
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:29,966
for, since about 2018, 2019,

2644
01:18:29,966 --> 01:18:31,134
we

2645
01:18:31,134 --> 01:18:33,270
ve been seeing an increase

2646
01:18:33,270 --> 01:18:34,738
in applications. Um, and we

2647
01:18:34,738 --> 01:18:34,972
accept applications year round.

2648
01:18:34,972 --> 01:18:36,506
We don

2649
01:18:36,506 --> 01:18:37,708
t just accept them that

2650
01:18:37,708 --> 01:18:39,610
OCTOBER through November

2651
01:18:39,610 --> 01:18:41,578
timeframe. Uh, just because in

2652
01:18:41,578 --> 01:18:43,978
case of, uh, mid-term

2653
01:18:44,548 --> 01:18:46,517
resignations. Um, so this is

2654
01:18:46,517 --> 01:18:48,185
those applications are taken,

2655
01:18:48,185 --> 01:18:49,953
accepted throughout the entire

2656
01:18:49,953 --> 01:18:51,588
year. And that typically is

2657
01:18:51,588 --> 01:18:53,457
right after a leadership

2658
01:18:53,457 --> 01:18:55,292
academy that we see an

2659
01:18:55,292 --> 01:18:56,693
increase. Um, and we do let

2660
01:18:56,693 --> 01:18:58,862
them know that, that those

2661
01:18:58,862 --> 01:19:00,698
terms come up in the fall. Um,

2662
01:19:00,698 --> 01:19:01,265
but they really after the

2663
01:19:01,265 --> 01:19:01,999
Academy, they

2664
01:19:01,999 --> 01:19:03,200
re really wanting

2665
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,502
to get more involved with the

2666
01:19:05,502 --> 01:19:08,138
city and see our advisory

2667
01:19:08,138 --> 01:19:10,774
boards as that next step for a

2668
01:19:10,774 --> 01:19:10,941
way to be involved. Um, and

2669
01:19:10,941 --> 01:19:12,941
we

2670
01:19:13,244 --> 01:19:15,813
ve just seen a steady

2671
01:19:15,813 --> 01:19:17,948
increase of that versus limited

2672
01:19:17,948 --> 01:19:20,948
openings. So really wanting to

2673
01:19:21,519 --> 01:19:24,880
provide an opportunity for, um,

2674
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,624
newer voices on our boards

2675
01:19:26,624 --> 01:19:28,250
while also still balancing, uh,

2676
01:19:28,250 --> 01:19:29,393
long term members and their

2677
01:19:29,393 --> 01:19:29,894
institutional knowledge.

2678
01:19:29,894 --> 01:19:31,894
Right.

2679
01:19:31,963 --> 01:19:34,132
Well, and I know, uh, someone

2680
01:19:34,132 --> 01:19:36,167
that I worked with applied to

2681
01:19:36,167 --> 01:19:37,235
the she applied to a particular

2682
01:19:37,235 --> 01:19:37,501
committee or commission didn

2683
01:19:37,501 --> 01:19:39,501
t

2684
01:19:39,971 --> 01:19:41,973
get on that and made multiple

2685
01:19:41,973 --> 01:19:44,275
applications before she finally

2686
01:19:44,275 --> 01:19:46,244
got on one. And I think that

2687
01:19:46,244 --> 01:19:47,945
was even a number of years, you

2688
01:19:47,945 --> 01:19:48,179
know, a few years ago. But I

2689
01:19:48,179 --> 01:19:49,981
know we

2690
01:19:49,981 --> 01:19:52,981
ve seen an increase in,

2691
01:19:53,217 --> 01:19:54,385
in applications. So, um, you

2692
01:19:54,385 --> 01:19:55,386
know, if there

2693
01:19:55,386 --> 01:19:57,255
s never any

2694
01:19:57,255 --> 01:19:58,656
openings, if you repeatedly

2695
01:19:58,656 --> 01:19:59,657
apply, it can be disheartening

2696
01:19:59,657 --> 01:20:00,124
and you MAY get to the point

2697
01:20:00,124 --> 01:20:01,893
where you won

2698
01:20:01,893 --> 01:20:02,927
t do it again or

2699
01:20:02,927 --> 01:20:03,561
just think, well, this is

2700
01:20:03,561 --> 01:20:04,596
pointless.

2701
01:20:04,596 --> 01:20:04,963
It was just going to say these

2702
01:20:04,963 --> 01:20:06,898
numbers don

2703
01:20:06,898 --> 01:20:08,898
t reflect student

2704
01:20:09,300 --> 01:20:11,536
applications, right? Um, and we

2705
01:20:11,536 --> 01:20:14,773
do keep applications up for up

2706
01:20:14,773 --> 01:20:16,541
to a year. Um, so if residents

2707
01:20:16,541 --> 01:20:17,942
do apply, um, and we have an

2708
01:20:17,942 --> 01:20:19,110
opening, we will reach out and

2709
01:20:19,110 --> 01:20:20,578
we do ask them to fill out

2710
01:20:20,578 --> 01:20:21,146
their, you know, top three

2711
01:20:21,146 --> 01:20:23,146
boards.

2712
01:20:23,815 --> 01:20:24,449
So well. And I know part of our

2713
01:20:24,449 --> 01:20:25,617
discussion I

2714
01:20:25,617 --> 01:20:27,886
ll share with our

2715
01:20:27,886 --> 01:20:29,540
audience is we talked about,

2716
01:20:29,540 --> 01:20:29,220
you know, how much we value.

2717
01:20:29,220 --> 01:20:29,387
It

2718
01:20:29,387 --> 01:20:29,721
s it

2719
01:20:29,721 --> 01:20:31,389
s a, it

2720
01:20:31,389 --> 01:20:33,389
s a difficult

2721
01:20:33,658 --> 01:20:35,193
decision. I think this is the

2722
01:20:35,193 --> 01:20:36,795
best option. I think we all

2723
01:20:36,795 --> 01:20:36,962
felt that way. But it is.

2724
01:20:36,962 --> 01:20:37,963
You

2725
01:20:37,963 --> 01:20:39,631
ve got people that have

2726
01:20:39,631 --> 01:20:39,898
served on these for years. I

2727
01:20:39,898 --> 01:20:41,300
ve

2728
01:20:41,300 --> 01:20:43,301
been on the eda since it

2729
01:20:43,301 --> 01:20:43,502
started. So I would be if I

2730
01:20:43,502 --> 01:20:45,103
weren

2731
01:20:45,103 --> 01:20:45,537
t not running again. I,

2732
01:20:45,537 --> 01:20:46,505
you know, I wouldn

2733
01:20:46,505 --> 01:20:48,607
t be able to

2734
01:20:48,607 --> 01:20:49,608
apply again. So but I know

2735
01:20:49,608 --> 01:20:53,780
there are people that have done

2736
01:20:53,780 --> 01:20:54,446
just great work for sometimes

2737
01:20:54,446 --> 01:20:56,381
decades. So it

2738
01:20:56,381 --> 01:20:58,381
s, um, fully

2739
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:01,553
respecting that work. Um, it,

2740
01:21:01,553 --> 01:21:03,288
it also it behooves us to, to

2741
01:21:03,288 --> 01:21:04,823
make opportunities for people

2742
01:21:04,823 --> 01:21:06,291
that move here or, you know,

2743
01:21:06,291 --> 01:21:08,861
and want to be able to

2744
01:21:08,861 --> 01:21:10,996
volunteer as well. And we

2745
01:21:10,996 --> 01:21:12,631
talked about it in terms of for

2746
01:21:12,631 --> 01:21:13,966
those that had been serving for

2747
01:21:13,966 --> 01:21:15,868
a long time and really enjoyed

2748
01:21:15,868 --> 01:21:16,401
being a part of a committee or

2749
01:21:16,401 --> 01:21:17,703
commission, it

2750
01:21:17,703 --> 01:21:19,505
s always they

2751
01:21:19,505 --> 01:21:21,907
have the option to apply for

2752
01:21:21,907 --> 01:21:23,108
any other one. And with the,

2753
01:21:23,108 --> 01:21:24,209
you know, for them having been

2754
01:21:24,209 --> 01:21:26,446
in the community for a long

2755
01:21:26,446 --> 01:21:28,180
time, they can add value in

2756
01:21:28,180 --> 01:21:30,490
multiple places. So it was a

2757
01:21:30,490 --> 01:21:32,449
difficult decision. And with

2758
01:21:32,585 --> 01:21:34,787
great respect to those who have

2759
01:21:34,787 --> 01:21:36,489
served for that amount of time.

2760
01:21:36,489 --> 01:21:37,223
Um, on.

2761
01:21:37,223 --> 01:21:39,250
One.

2762
01:21:39,250 --> 01:21:39,558
Uh, any other council member?

2763
01:21:39,558 --> 01:21:40,993
Gardner.

2764
01:21:40,993 --> 01:21:42,461
I just wanted to express my

2765
01:21:42,461 --> 01:21:44,463
gratitude to you guys for

2766
01:21:44,463 --> 01:21:46,863
helping us navigate this

2767
01:21:48,768 --> 01:21:51,303
labyrinth where we have, um, we

2768
01:21:51,303 --> 01:21:53,873
obviously want to honor and,

2769
01:21:53,873 --> 01:21:54,907
um, appreciate the efforts of a

2770
01:21:54,907 --> 01:21:56,442
lot of people who have spent

2771
01:21:56,442 --> 01:21:58,344
decades contributing their

2772
01:21:58,344 --> 01:21:59,946
expertise to our community. Uh,

2773
01:21:59,946 --> 01:22:01,948
at the same time applying some

2774
01:22:01,948 --> 01:22:04,917
fairness so that we can get

2775
01:22:04,917 --> 01:22:05,151
some new ideas going. Uh, and

2776
01:22:05,151 --> 01:22:06,319
as you

2777
01:22:06,319 --> 01:22:07,920
ve said several times,

2778
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,756
we have more applicants than

2779
01:22:10,756 --> 01:22:13,893
slots available, but it is a

2780
01:22:13,893 --> 01:22:14,594
delicate, um, uh, dance. And I

2781
01:22:14,594 --> 01:22:15,940
appreciate that. You

2782
01:22:15,940 --> 01:22:15,328
re you

2783
01:22:15,328 --> 01:22:16,563
re

2784
01:22:16,563 --> 01:22:17,463
walking us through that over

2785
01:22:17,463 --> 01:22:18,640
the last couple of months. I

2786
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:19,320
just appreciate.

2787
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:19,432
It. Okay?

2788
01:22:19,432 --> 01:22:21,134
And I

2789
01:22:21,134 --> 01:22:22,335
m supportive of what we

2790
01:22:22,335 --> 01:22:23,570
have here.

2791
01:22:23,570 --> 01:22:24,604
Councilmember Doan.

2792
01:22:24,604 --> 01:22:26,973
Thank you, mayor. And thank

2793
01:22:26,973 --> 01:22:29,776
you, Renee, for all the hard

2794
01:22:29,776 --> 01:22:31,644
work to navigate through this,

2795
01:22:31,644 --> 01:22:33,647
uh, delicate process because

2796
01:22:33,647 --> 01:22:34,948
these are important people in

2797
01:22:34,948 --> 01:22:37,784
our community. These are the

2798
01:22:37,784 --> 01:22:40,286
folks who have given of their

2799
01:22:40,286 --> 01:22:43,823
time and their skills and their

2800
01:22:43,823 --> 01:22:45,392
talents. Um, and as volunteers,

2801
01:22:45,392 --> 01:22:47,527
aside from the planning

2802
01:22:47,527 --> 01:22:47,861
commission, um, no one

2803
01:22:47,861 --> 01:22:49,861
s

2804
01:22:49,997 --> 01:22:51,698
getting paid or even paid for

2805
01:22:51,698 --> 01:22:51,899
mileage to do the things that

2806
01:22:51,899 --> 01:22:53,899
they

2807
01:22:54,334 --> 01:22:56,603
re doing. Um, wanted to

2808
01:22:56,603 --> 01:22:59,603
ask for the planning commission

2809
01:22:59,673 --> 01:23:01,608
and eda, uh, the term limits

2810
01:23:01,608 --> 01:23:02,800
would not apply there. Is that

2811
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:03,210
correct?

2812
01:23:03,210 --> 01:23:04,777
Correct. We would still

2813
01:23:04,777 --> 01:23:05,450
continue the current process

2814
01:23:05,450 --> 01:23:06,814
that we

2815
01:23:06,814 --> 01:23:08,140
re using for the eda

2816
01:23:08,140 --> 01:23:10,140
and Planning Commission.

2817
01:23:10,917 --> 01:23:13,917
Would there be any guidance

2818
01:23:14,655 --> 01:23:16,390
that we as a council would use

2819
01:23:16,390 --> 01:23:16,557
to keep in mind how we

2820
01:23:16,557 --> 01:23:17,991
re

2821
01:23:17,991 --> 01:23:18,459
treating the other committees?

2822
01:23:18,459 --> 01:23:20,260
And I

2823
01:23:20,260 --> 01:23:22,660
m saying this because

2824
01:23:22,797 --> 01:23:25,197
councils will change. But

2825
01:23:25,967 --> 01:23:26,132
having some guidance, whether

2826
01:23:26,132 --> 01:23:27,468
it

2827
01:23:27,468 --> 01:23:27,634
s in policy that we

2828
01:23:27,634 --> 01:23:29,170
ve

2829
01:23:29,170 --> 01:23:30,370
adopted or just here

2830
01:23:30,370 --> 01:23:31,672
s from

2831
01:23:31,672 --> 01:23:33,207
this conversation at this

2832
01:23:33,207 --> 01:23:35,607
council meeting, uh, the

2833
01:23:37,178 --> 01:23:39,313
direction we, uh, our intent,

2834
01:23:39,313 --> 01:23:41,820
for both the eda and the in the

2835
01:23:41,820 --> 01:23:42,316
Planning Commission is, is it

2836
01:23:42,316 --> 01:23:42,950
worth having. And I

2837
01:23:42,950 --> 01:23:44,950
m speaking

2838
01:23:45,252 --> 01:23:46,887
more to my colleagues here. Is

2839
01:23:46,887 --> 01:23:50,487
it worth us having some at

2840
01:23:50,491 --> 01:23:52,891
least guidance for future

2841
01:23:54,128 --> 01:23:57,198
councils as to how, uh, should

2842
01:23:57,198 --> 01:23:58,766
there be a term limit for, uh,

2843
01:23:58,766 --> 01:23:59,467
the Planning Commission or the

2844
01:23:59,467 --> 01:24:01,467
eda?

2845
01:24:01,469 --> 01:24:04,539
Well, we have a limit. But as

2846
01:24:04,539 --> 01:24:07,708
MISS Eisen by said, the eda

2847
01:24:07,708 --> 01:24:09,577
term is set by state statute at

2848
01:24:09,577 --> 01:24:10,440
six years. So are you meaning

2849
01:24:10,440 --> 01:24:10,244
that that.

2850
01:24:10,244 --> 01:24:10,812
So it

2851
01:24:10,812 --> 01:24:11,746
s just a planning

2852
01:24:11,746 --> 01:24:12,780
commission that we would need

2853
01:24:12,780 --> 01:24:14,780
to.

2854
01:24:15,830 --> 01:24:15,583
Uh, for the eda. Their term is

2855
01:24:15,583 --> 01:24:16,617
six years. It

2856
01:24:16,617 --> 01:24:18,820
s longer than our

2857
01:24:18,820 --> 01:24:21,880
normal terms. Um, but they,

2858
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:24,258
after one full term, we do

2859
01:24:24,258 --> 01:24:25,827
require eda members to reapply

2860
01:24:25,827 --> 01:24:27,395
if they want to be reappointed.

2861
01:24:27,395 --> 01:24:28,396
And that has been in place

2862
01:24:28,396 --> 01:24:28,763
since the beginning.

2863
01:24:28,763 --> 01:24:29,997
But there

2864
01:24:29,997 --> 01:24:31,332
s no term limit so

2865
01:24:31,332 --> 01:24:32,900
that someone can serve on the

2866
01:24:32,900 --> 01:24:35,203
eda for three terms. And that

2867
01:24:35,203 --> 01:24:35,503
would be 18 years. Yeah. So I

2868
01:24:35,503 --> 01:24:35,970
guess that

2869
01:24:35,970 --> 01:24:36,104
s the part that I

2870
01:24:36,104 --> 01:24:38,104
m

2871
01:24:38,373 --> 01:24:41,342
trying to get at, is that those

2872
01:24:41,342 --> 01:24:43,342
two committees, authorities,

2873
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:48,149
um, are unique. Uh, at the same

2874
01:24:48,149 --> 01:24:48,316
time, there is a ethos that

2875
01:24:48,316 --> 01:24:49,384
we

2876
01:24:49,384 --> 01:24:52,253
re trying to apply that I

2877
01:24:52,253 --> 01:24:52,520
think that we want to or at

2878
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,520
least I

2879
01:24:54,723 --> 01:24:57,123
d like to communicate

2880
01:24:57,291 --> 01:24:57,425
to future councils as they

2881
01:24:57,425 --> 01:24:59,161
re

2882
01:24:59,161 --> 01:25:01,620
making those decisions, because

2883
01:25:01,620 --> 01:25:03,565
I MAY or MAY not be on them.

2884
01:25:03,565 --> 01:25:04,733
Um, as to why we made this

2885
01:25:04,733 --> 01:25:07,536
decision for all these other

2886
01:25:07,536 --> 01:25:09,400
committees, but did not for the

2887
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:10,710
eda and the Planning

2888
01:25:10,710 --> 01:25:10,272
Commission. And I think that

2889
01:25:10,272 --> 01:25:11,673
there

2890
01:25:11,673 --> 01:25:13,976
s still good intent in

2891
01:25:13,976 --> 01:25:15,444
doing something like that.

2892
01:25:15,444 --> 01:25:17,345
Because the state statute on

2893
01:25:17,345 --> 01:25:19,314
eda just reflects how long the

2894
01:25:19,314 --> 01:25:20,349
term has to be, not how many

2895
01:25:20,349 --> 01:25:20,549
terms they can serve.

2896
01:25:20,549 --> 01:25:20,816
That

2897
01:25:20,816 --> 01:25:21,160
s correct.

2898
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:21,884
That

2899
01:25:21,884 --> 01:25:23,719
s a fair question.

2900
01:25:23,719 --> 01:25:24,820
Sure.

2901
01:25:24,820 --> 01:25:25,921
Did you.

2902
01:25:25,921 --> 01:25:26,822
Mary, call to that point? This

2903
01:25:26,822 --> 01:25:28,900
is you know, we had a little

2904
01:25:28,900 --> 01:25:29,910
bit of a version of this

2905
01:25:29,910 --> 01:25:30,158
conversation when we had all

2906
01:25:30,158 --> 01:25:31,226
the options. And I think the

2907
01:25:31,226 --> 01:25:32,160
difference is with the Planning

2908
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:32,728
Commission and eda, there

2909
01:25:32,728 --> 01:25:34,728
s a

2910
01:25:34,897 --> 01:25:35,397
natural interview and selection

2911
01:25:35,397 --> 01:25:36,999
process that

2912
01:25:36,999 --> 01:25:38,267
s built in, um,

2913
01:25:38,267 --> 01:25:38,967
whereas the other commission

2914
01:25:38,967 --> 01:25:39,868
and committees, it

2915
01:25:39,868 --> 01:25:41,436
s a natural

2916
01:25:41,436 --> 01:25:43,806
reappointment that just occurs

2917
01:25:43,806 --> 01:25:46,206
without interviewing. And, you

2918
01:25:46,408 --> 01:25:48,577
know, selecting the say, top

2919
01:25:48,577 --> 01:25:49,778
candidate, for example. So this

2920
01:25:49,778 --> 01:25:52,314
would kind of build that

2921
01:25:52,314 --> 01:25:52,481
mechanism in for that, that

2922
01:25:52,481 --> 01:25:53,649
we

2923
01:25:53,649 --> 01:25:55,384
re kind of already exist for

2924
01:25:55,384 --> 01:25:56,285
planning commission, but they

2925
01:25:56,285 --> 01:25:57,219
actually have to come in and

2926
01:25:57,219 --> 01:25:59,388
interview in front of the

2927
01:25:59,388 --> 01:26:00,122
council and retain their speak,

2928
01:26:00,122 --> 01:26:02,122
their seat.

2929
01:26:04,590 --> 01:26:05,661
Yes.

2930
01:26:05,661 --> 01:26:06,328
I think for the eda, that

2931
01:26:06,328 --> 01:26:08,328
s a

2932
01:26:09,832 --> 01:26:12,201
fair question for discussion.

2933
01:26:12,201 --> 01:26:12,668
Um, any other questions?

2934
01:26:12,668 --> 01:26:14,668
Comments?

2935
01:26:15,204 --> 01:26:17,173
I just have a comment that that

2936
01:26:17,173 --> 01:26:18,440
as others have said, this this

2937
01:26:18,440 --> 01:26:20,610
is a really difficult decision

2938
01:26:20,610 --> 01:26:21,778
because anyone who has served

2939
01:26:21,778 --> 01:26:23,120
on these committees or

2940
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:24,247
commissions for nine years or

2941
01:26:24,247 --> 01:26:25,681
more, we all probably know them

2942
01:26:25,681 --> 01:26:27,250
pretty well. And we know not

2943
01:26:27,250 --> 01:26:28,184
only how important they are to

2944
01:26:28,184 --> 01:26:30,453
the group, but how important

2945
01:26:30,453 --> 01:26:30,853
the group is to them. And and

2946
01:26:30,853 --> 01:26:31,587
yes, there

2947
01:26:31,587 --> 01:26:32,688
s certainly the

2948
01:26:32,688 --> 01:26:34,557
opportunity for people that

2949
01:26:34,557 --> 01:26:35,458
have fulfilled their time on

2950
01:26:35,458 --> 01:26:36,459
one group to move to a

2951
01:26:36,459 --> 01:26:37,493
different and yes,

2952
01:26:37,493 --> 01:26:39,128
theoretically in the future, we

2953
01:26:39,128 --> 01:26:40,129
could see Tim Pratt go to the

2954
01:26:40,129 --> 01:26:41,497
Human Rights Commission and we

2955
01:26:41,497 --> 01:26:43,660
could see Julie Williams go to

2956
01:26:43,660 --> 01:26:44,734
the Environmental Quality

2957
01:26:44,734 --> 01:26:45,101
Committee. But we realistically

2958
01:26:45,101 --> 01:26:45,668
probably won

2959
01:26:45,668 --> 01:26:46,350
t because they

2960
01:26:46,350 --> 01:26:48,350
re

2961
01:26:48,905 --> 01:26:50,340
in the areas of, uh, of the

2962
01:26:50,340 --> 01:26:51,107
greatest interest to them. And

2963
01:26:51,107 --> 01:26:52,275
and so it is it

2964
01:26:52,275 --> 01:26:52,609
s a hard it

2965
01:26:52,609 --> 01:26:54,444
s a

2966
01:26:54,444 --> 01:26:54,610
hard thing to say to someone

2967
01:26:54,610 --> 01:26:55,278
who

2968
01:26:55,278 --> 01:26:56,312
s put that much of their

2969
01:26:56,312 --> 01:26:56,713
heart and soul into it. You

2970
01:26:56,713 --> 01:26:57,747
ve

2971
01:26:57,747 --> 01:26:57,914
served long enough. And so we

2972
01:26:57,914 --> 01:26:59,914
don

2973
01:27:00,283 --> 01:27:02,850
t want to be anything but

2974
01:27:02,850 --> 01:27:04,688
but grateful to the folks and,

2975
01:27:04,688 --> 01:27:06,356
uh, so the fact that we have a

2976
01:27:06,356 --> 01:27:08,570
plan for communicating in

2977
01:27:08,570 --> 01:27:11,127
person, um, you know, I think

2978
01:27:11,127 --> 01:27:13,964
is very important and, um, I

2979
01:27:13,964 --> 01:27:15,332
think also of, um, our current

2980
01:27:15,332 --> 01:27:18,168
citizen of the year, Jane

2981
01:27:18,168 --> 01:27:19,235
Nichols, who replaced me on the

2982
01:27:19,235 --> 01:27:19,903
Human Rights Commission when I

2983
01:27:19,903 --> 01:27:21,638
was elected to the city

2984
01:27:21,638 --> 01:27:23,974
council, which is now coming up

2985
01:27:23,974 --> 01:27:25,108
on 12 years. And he only, I

2986
01:27:25,108 --> 01:27:26,409
believe, is number four in

2987
01:27:26,409 --> 01:27:26,610
seniority on that group. So

2988
01:27:26,610 --> 01:27:27,677
there

2989
01:27:27,677 --> 01:27:28,110
s, uh, there

2990
01:27:28,110 --> 01:27:30,110
s three

2991
01:27:30,130 --> 01:27:31,348
people on that group who have

2992
01:27:31,348 --> 01:27:32,549
been there longer than any of

2993
01:27:32,549 --> 01:27:34,184
us on the council, have been on

2994
01:27:34,184 --> 01:27:34,384
the council. And and so I think

2995
01:27:34,384 --> 01:27:35,118
that

2996
01:27:35,118 --> 01:27:35,986
s sort of important to

2997
01:27:35,986 --> 01:27:38,689
keep in mind, too, that we are

2998
01:27:38,689 --> 01:27:39,790
the ones elected by the people.

2999
01:27:39,790 --> 01:27:40,891
And then we appoint to the

3000
01:27:40,891 --> 01:27:41,658
committees and commissions. And

3001
01:27:41,658 --> 01:27:43,493
so if there ever were a

3002
01:27:43,493 --> 01:27:44,494
situation where an advisory

3003
01:27:44,494 --> 01:27:46,296
board was really not in

3004
01:27:46,296 --> 01:27:47,764
alignment, uh, with the

3005
01:27:47,764 --> 01:27:49,900
council, I think it is good

3006
01:27:49,900 --> 01:27:51,340
that the council, the current

3007
01:27:51,340 --> 01:27:53,236
council at that time, whenever

3008
01:27:53,236 --> 01:27:54,938
that might happen, um, would

3009
01:27:54,938 --> 01:27:57,441
have some ability to put new

3010
01:27:57,441 --> 01:27:59,510
people on, on the boards. So,

3011
01:27:59,510 --> 01:28:00,277
um, also, I went through this

3012
01:28:00,277 --> 01:28:01,912
when I was on the board of

3013
01:28:01,912 --> 01:28:03,480
directors at nys that we

3014
01:28:03,480 --> 01:28:04,548
instituted a strict term limit

3015
01:28:04,548 --> 01:28:04,748
policy for the first time, and

3016
01:28:04,748 --> 01:28:05,616
that

3017
01:28:05,616 --> 01:28:06,817
s why Council member

3018
01:28:06,817 --> 01:28:08,218
Maryland is now on the board of

3019
01:28:08,218 --> 01:28:09,887
nys. Instead of me having

3020
01:28:09,887 --> 01:28:10,200
served my nine years. So so

3021
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:11,488
I

3022
01:28:11,488 --> 01:28:13,457
ve seen that that, uh, it

3023
01:28:13,457 --> 01:28:14,358
does, um, produce the desired

3024
01:28:14,358 --> 01:28:16,758
effect of bringing new

3025
01:28:17,610 --> 01:28:19,763
perspectives and, and new ideas

3026
01:28:19,763 --> 01:28:21,465
into a board. And, uh, so as

3027
01:28:21,465 --> 01:28:22,666
hard as it is for me, knowing

3028
01:28:22,666 --> 01:28:24,335
some of the people who will be

3029
01:28:24,335 --> 01:28:25,169
affected, I am willing to

3030
01:28:25,169 --> 01:28:25,736
support this.

3031
01:28:25,736 --> 01:28:27,736
Okay.

3032
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:29,540
Well, and it reminds me, when I

3033
01:28:29,540 --> 01:28:29,673
decided not to run for mayor,

3034
01:28:29,673 --> 01:28:30,641
I

3035
01:28:30,641 --> 01:28:31,742
ve told the story to a few

3036
01:28:31,742 --> 01:28:33,244
people, but I have a seven year

3037
01:28:33,244 --> 01:28:34,945
old grandson. We were riding in

3038
01:28:34,945 --> 01:28:35,379
the car and he said, why don

3039
01:28:35,379 --> 01:28:37,379
t

3040
01:28:37,782 --> 01:28:39,350
you want to be mayor anymore?

3041
01:28:39,350 --> 01:28:41,919
Why? I think you should do it

3042
01:28:41,919 --> 01:28:42,854
as long as the person before

3043
01:28:42,854 --> 01:28:43,421
you and I said, well, I.

3044
01:28:43,421 --> 01:28:45,421
Would actually.

3045
01:28:46,490 --> 01:28:48,559
Be in my. 90s if I did, but but

3046
01:28:48,559 --> 01:28:49,894
he said he was having trouble

3047
01:28:49,894 --> 01:28:50,610
grasping this because he thinks

3048
01:28:50,610 --> 01:28:51,162
it

3049
01:28:51,162 --> 01:28:53,331
s really cool, particularly

3050
01:28:53,331 --> 01:28:54,365
this. And he said, he said,

3051
01:28:54,365 --> 01:28:55,666
well, maybe you just want to

3052
01:28:55,666 --> 01:28:57,969
give somebody else a turn. And

3053
01:28:57,969 --> 01:28:59,237
I thought that that for his

3054
01:28:59,237 --> 01:29:01,706
brain, that was good. But I

3055
01:29:01,706 --> 01:29:04,743
also think that it kind of is

3056
01:29:04,743 --> 01:29:05,843
that situation here, that there

3057
01:29:05,843 --> 01:29:06,678
are people that, you know, we

3058
01:29:06,678 --> 01:29:08,913
welcome them into the

3059
01:29:08,913 --> 01:29:09,948
community, but and say, please

3060
01:29:09,948 --> 01:29:11,820
come to the Citizen

3061
01:29:11,820 --> 01:29:12,150
s Academy.

3062
01:29:12,150 --> 01:29:13,551
And then we want you on

3063
01:29:13,551 --> 01:29:13,818
committees and commissions, but

3064
01:29:13,818 --> 01:29:14,852
we aren

3065
01:29:14,852 --> 01:29:16,588
t always able to

3066
01:29:16,588 --> 01:29:16,788
fulfill that. Maybe in the area

3067
01:29:16,788 --> 01:29:18,788
they

3068
01:29:18,857 --> 01:29:20,925
re interested in. So it it,

3069
01:29:20,925 --> 01:29:23,695
uh, as difficult as it is, as

3070
01:29:23,695 --> 01:29:25,297
it is, um, you know, it does

3071
01:29:25,297 --> 01:29:27,699
give other people newer to the

3072
01:29:27,699 --> 01:29:29,434
community opportunities. And we

3073
01:29:29,434 --> 01:29:31,736
also, just for background,

3074
01:29:31,736 --> 01:29:35,336
talked about doing this. We we

3075
01:29:36,408 --> 01:29:37,809
waited intentionally until 2028

3076
01:29:37,809 --> 01:29:39,911
for it to take place. Right.

3077
01:29:39,911 --> 01:29:41,379
Because we wanted to make sure

3078
01:29:41,379 --> 01:29:43,615
that people had an opportunity

3079
01:29:43,615 --> 01:29:44,850
to adjust to it, to give some

3080
01:29:44,850 --> 01:29:46,840
thought if they might want to

3081
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:47,653
contribute on another committee

3082
01:29:47,653 --> 01:29:48,787
or commission. So and we did

3083
01:29:48,787 --> 01:29:50,288
that very intentionally, I

3084
01:29:50,288 --> 01:29:52,224
think, to get people accustomed

3085
01:29:52,224 --> 01:29:52,924
to it, because it does take

3086
01:29:52,924 --> 01:29:53,458
some, you know, if it

3087
01:29:53,458 --> 01:29:55,458
s new as

3088
01:29:55,727 --> 01:29:57,429
it was in nys, um, you know, it

3089
01:29:57,429 --> 01:29:58,664
does. You want people to feel

3090
01:29:58,664 --> 01:30:00,465
comfortable, have a chance to

3091
01:30:00,465 --> 01:30:02,000
talk with us about it or get a

3092
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:02,534
letter, give their feedback,

3093
01:30:02,534 --> 01:30:04,534
etc..

3094
01:30:05,237 --> 01:30:07,237
So. Councilmember Doan.

3095
01:30:07,873 --> 01:30:09,708
Mayor, I will be supporting

3096
01:30:09,708 --> 01:30:11,577
this motion, but I just had one

3097
01:30:11,577 --> 01:30:14,346
other curiosity of a question,

3098
01:30:14,346 --> 01:30:16,415
which is aside from the eda,

3099
01:30:16,415 --> 01:30:17,916
edc and Planning Commission is

3100
01:30:17,916 --> 01:30:20,916
the standard number for those

3101
01:30:21,454 --> 01:30:22,488
other committees, uh, nine for

3102
01:30:22,488 --> 01:30:23,623
membership.

3103
01:30:23,623 --> 01:30:25,758
And just a number.

3104
01:30:25,758 --> 01:30:26,492
Of number of slots.

3105
01:30:26,492 --> 01:30:28,127
Open.

3106
01:30:28,127 --> 01:30:29,610
I just wanted to to check.

3107
01:30:29,610 --> 01:30:31,610
On that.

3108
01:30:32,865 --> 01:30:34,800
It averages usually between 9

3109
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:36,202
and 11. Uh, because several of

3110
01:30:36,202 --> 01:30:38,700
our advisory boards have

3111
01:30:38,700 --> 01:30:38,470
student representative seats.

3112
01:30:38,470 --> 01:30:40,500
Uh, so it

3113
01:30:40,500 --> 01:30:42,500
s typically nine

3114
01:30:42,208 --> 01:30:44,143
regular members. And then uh,

3115
01:30:44,143 --> 01:30:45,344
maybe 1 or 2 student advisory

3116
01:30:45,344 --> 01:30:46,512
board members. I know on the

3117
01:30:46,512 --> 01:30:48,912
Human Rights Commission, which

3118
01:30:49,782 --> 01:30:52,184
I am the staff liaison, we, um,

3119
01:30:52,184 --> 01:30:55,454
we just have a range of 9 to 11

3120
01:30:55,454 --> 01:30:57,390
members with up to 1 to 3 of

3121
01:30:57,390 --> 01:30:58,391
them being student members. So

3122
01:30:58,391 --> 01:31:00,826
we could have eight regular

3123
01:31:00,826 --> 01:31:01,661
members and then three student

3124
01:31:01,661 --> 01:31:02,128
members, which is what we

3125
01:31:02,128 --> 01:31:03,863
ve

3126
01:31:03,863 --> 01:31:04,960
been having the last few. So

3127
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:06,960
but it

3128
01:31:06,999 --> 01:31:07,467
s typically 9 to 11.

3129
01:31:07,467 --> 01:31:09,335
All right.

3130
01:31:09,335 --> 01:31:10,770
And I think the edc has

3131
01:31:10,770 --> 01:31:10,970
business members as well. So

3132
01:31:10,970 --> 01:31:12,105
there

3133
01:31:12,105 --> 01:31:14,105
s probably fluctuates.

3134
01:31:14,674 --> 01:31:16,909
And they also have student or

3135
01:31:16,909 --> 01:31:18,909
school representatives I

3136
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:21,879
believe, or educational with

3137
01:31:21,948 --> 01:31:23,516
Mindy Henneberg.

3138
01:31:23,516 --> 01:31:24,830
We have a school.

3139
01:31:24,830 --> 01:31:26,830
Yep.

3140
01:31:26,185 --> 01:31:26,453
So all right okay.

3141
01:31:26,453 --> 01:31:26,920
Good. I

3142
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:27,287
m mayor I

3143
01:31:27,287 --> 01:31:28,221
d just like

3144
01:31:28,221 --> 01:31:30,123
to make a comment that, you

3145
01:31:30,123 --> 01:31:31,624
know, we have sincere gratitude

3146
01:31:31,624 --> 01:31:32,358
for the people that have.

3147
01:31:32,358 --> 01:31:34,358
Served.

3148
01:31:34,627 --> 01:31:36,596
And, um, at one point, I was on

3149
01:31:36,596 --> 01:31:38,431
the edc when when that first

3150
01:31:38,431 --> 01:31:40,831
letter came out encouraging

3151
01:31:41,340 --> 01:31:43,236
people to consider their terms.

3152
01:31:43,236 --> 01:31:45,338
And I think this is just a much

3153
01:31:45,338 --> 01:31:47,841
more transparent way to do it.

3154
01:31:47,841 --> 01:31:49,376
Um, it seems logical to extend

3155
01:31:49,376 --> 01:31:51,244
it out for another year. Um,

3156
01:31:51,244 --> 01:31:53,680
getting people to, to be used

3157
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:55,783
to it. And, you know, sometimes

3158
01:31:55,783 --> 01:31:57,651
people stay on committees

3159
01:31:57,651 --> 01:31:59,786
because, um, they feel an

3160
01:31:59,786 --> 01:32:01,488
obligation or maybe they feel

3161
01:32:01,488 --> 01:32:03,690
like maybe nobody else will

3162
01:32:03,690 --> 01:32:05,325
step up. And without maybe

3163
01:32:05,325 --> 01:32:07,725
knowing how many applications

3164
01:32:07,727 --> 01:32:08,610
have been out there. So, um, I

3165
01:32:08,610 --> 01:32:10,610
think it

3166
01:32:10,364 --> 01:32:11,765
s a win for, for all

3167
01:32:11,765 --> 01:32:12,866
the committees and the people

3168
01:32:12,866 --> 01:32:14,701
that serve on them, and it

3169
01:32:14,701 --> 01:32:16,303
gives them an opportunity to

3170
01:32:16,303 --> 01:32:18,772
maybe jump over to something

3171
01:32:18,772 --> 01:32:19,390
else if they want to. So I, I

3172
01:32:19,390 --> 01:32:21,390
m

3173
01:32:21,675 --> 01:32:23,210
in favor of this motion today.

3174
01:32:23,210 --> 01:32:24,878
Okay.

3175
01:32:24,878 --> 01:32:26,460
So sorry. MAY I just one over a

3176
01:32:26,460 --> 01:32:27,314
piece of information that we

3177
01:32:27,314 --> 01:32:28,515
talked about at the workshops,

3178
01:32:28,515 --> 01:32:31,318
but we also would have an

3179
01:32:31,318 --> 01:32:32,553
enhanced recognition for

3180
01:32:32,553 --> 01:32:34,221
outgoing members at our

3181
01:32:34,221 --> 01:32:35,622
volunteer recognition event as

3182
01:32:35,622 --> 01:32:37,570
well. So some some new

3183
01:32:37,570 --> 01:32:38,580
recognition for those members.

3184
01:32:38,580 --> 01:32:38,592
Yeah. Okay.

3185
01:32:38,592 --> 01:32:39,660
Good point.

3186
01:32:39,660 --> 01:32:41,660
Thank you.

3187
01:32:42,930 --> 01:32:44,365
So with that I will look to,

3188
01:32:44,365 --> 01:32:46,166
uh, for a motion.

3189
01:32:46,166 --> 01:32:49,403
Uh, mayor, I will move to

3190
01:32:49,403 --> 01:32:51,403
approve resolution 2669,

3191
01:32:53,700 --> 01:32:54,174
amending resolution 1505, open

3192
01:32:54,174 --> 01:32:56,174
appointment policy for

3193
01:32:56,277 --> 01:32:56,410
Committees and commissions.

3194
01:32:56,410 --> 01:32:57,144
I

3195
01:32:57,144 --> 01:32:57,445
ll second.

3196
01:32:57,445 --> 01:32:57,611
Okay.

3197
01:32:57,611 --> 01:32:58,613
We

3198
01:32:58,613 --> 01:33:00,714
ve got a motion by Council

3199
01:33:00,714 --> 01:33:02,717
Member Gardner with a second by

3200
01:33:02,717 --> 01:33:04,919
council member Merlin to

3201
01:33:04,919 --> 01:33:06,354
approve this resolution on the

3202
01:33:06,354 --> 01:33:08,122
open appointment policy for

3203
01:33:08,122 --> 01:33:09,357
committees and commissions. All

3204
01:33:09,357 --> 01:33:10,324
in favor, please say aye.

3205
01:33:10,324 --> 01:33:12,324
Aye aye aye.

3206
01:33:13,194 --> 01:33:16,194
All opposed. Same sign. Motion

3207
01:33:16,564 --> 01:33:17,798
passes 5 to 0. Thank you,

3208
01:33:17,798 --> 01:33:19,330
everybody, and thanks for all

3209
01:33:19,330 --> 01:33:19,300
the input. Thanks, MISS

3210
01:33:19,300 --> 01:33:21,200
Eisenberg

3211
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:21,636
s, for the proposal

3212
01:33:21,636 --> 01:33:21,969
and all the work you

3213
01:33:21,969 --> 01:33:23,437
ve put

3214
01:33:23,437 --> 01:33:26,774
into. We wanted to make sure we

3215
01:33:26,774 --> 01:33:28,309
got it right. Um, last item of

3216
01:33:28,309 --> 01:33:30,111
general business is ten e,

3217
01:33:30,111 --> 01:33:31,679
which is an appointment to the

3218
01:33:31,679 --> 01:33:33,679
Environmental Quality

3219
01:33:33,848 --> 01:33:34,115
Committee. And is that also

3220
01:33:34,115 --> 01:33:35,283
you?

3221
01:33:35,283 --> 01:33:36,718
Oh. Oh, okay.

3222
01:33:36,718 --> 01:33:37,452
All right. And look to our city

3223
01:33:37,452 --> 01:33:37,785
manager Brad Martin

3224
01:33:37,785 --> 01:33:38,353
s for.

3225
01:33:38,353 --> 01:33:39,454
That one.

3226
01:33:39,454 --> 01:33:40,555
Thank you, mayor and council.

3227
01:33:40,555 --> 01:33:41,923
And this is one of those

3228
01:33:41,923 --> 01:33:44,392
instances. We have a vacancy.

3229
01:33:44,392 --> 01:33:46,160
Do some resigning mid-term. So

3230
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:48,263
the eqc are environmental

3231
01:33:48,263 --> 01:33:50,431
quality committee. Um received

3232
01:33:50,431 --> 01:33:52,433
two applications to fill that

3233
01:33:52,433 --> 01:33:53,968
seat. Um, Colten Borg is

3234
01:33:53,968 --> 01:33:55,737
recommended for appointment by

3235
01:33:55,737 --> 01:33:57,710
the eqc for you tonight. The

3236
01:33:57,710 --> 01:33:58,339
committee cited the responses

3237
01:33:58,339 --> 01:33:59,341
in the application and the

3238
01:33:59,341 --> 01:34:00,742
perspective they would bring to

3239
01:34:00,742 --> 01:34:01,743
the committee. Colten has been

3240
01:34:01,743 --> 01:34:03,144
looking to volunteer and give

3241
01:34:03,144 --> 01:34:04,512
back to the community. He has

3242
01:34:04,512 --> 01:34:05,747
three young kids, plans to be

3243
01:34:05,747 --> 01:34:07,820
in Shoreview for a long time,

3244
01:34:07,820 --> 01:34:08,149
has a mechanical engineering

3245
01:34:08,149 --> 01:34:09,551
background with an interest in

3246
01:34:09,551 --> 01:34:10,785
protecting the environment, and

3247
01:34:10,785 --> 01:34:11,753
tries to live sustainably. So

3248
01:34:11,753 --> 01:34:12,554
it seems like a good fit for

3249
01:34:12,554 --> 01:34:14,554
the committee.

3250
01:34:17,959 --> 01:34:19,427
Okay. Questions? Comments?

3251
01:34:19,427 --> 01:34:20,896
It looked like a great

3252
01:34:20,896 --> 01:34:23,310
applicant and was glad to hear

3253
01:34:23,310 --> 01:34:25,500
that we. Had two applicants for

3254
01:34:25,500 --> 01:34:27,335
this. So, um, anyone looking to

3255
01:34:27,335 --> 01:34:27,769
make a motion here?

3256
01:34:27,769 --> 01:34:28,437
Mayor, I

3257
01:34:28,437 --> 01:34:29,871
ll make a motion to

3258
01:34:29,871 --> 01:34:31,274
appoint Colten Borg to the

3259
01:34:31,274 --> 01:34:32,874
Environmental Quality Committee

3260
01:34:32,874 --> 01:34:34,576
for a term through JANUARY

3261
01:34:34,576 --> 01:34:35,310
31st, 2028.

3262
01:34:35,310 --> 01:34:36,378
Second.

3263
01:34:36,378 --> 01:34:37,846
Okay. We have a motion by

3264
01:34:37,846 --> 01:34:39,381
Councilmember Springer and a

3265
01:34:39,381 --> 01:34:41,383
second by Council Member Doan

3266
01:34:41,383 --> 01:34:43,352
to appoint Colten Berg to the

3267
01:34:43,352 --> 01:34:43,886
eqc. All in favor, please say

3268
01:34:43,886 --> 01:34:44,586
aye.

3269
01:34:44,586 --> 01:34:46,586
Aye, aye.

3270
01:34:47,856 --> 01:34:49,858
All opposed. Same sign. Motion

3271
01:34:49,858 --> 01:34:51,590
passes 5.

3272
01:34:51,590 --> 01:34:53,590
To 0.

3273
01:34:53,295 --> 01:34:54,997
And, um, that brings that

3274
01:34:54,997 --> 01:34:56,865
finishes our general business.

3275
01:34:56,865 --> 01:34:58,567
We do not have a special order

3276
01:34:58,567 --> 01:34:59,434
of business tonight. So I look

3277
01:34:59,434 --> 01:34:59,568
to council to see if there

3278
01:34:59,568 --> 01:35:01,103
s

3279
01:35:01,103 --> 01:35:02,400
anything else they want to

3280
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:02,338
bring up. And if not, I

3281
01:35:02,338 --> 01:35:04,338
ll look

3282
01:35:04,773 --> 01:35:05,808
for a motion to adjourn at 830..

3283
01:35:05,808 --> 01:35:06,342
For mayor. I

3284
01:35:06,342 --> 01:35:09,342
d like to make a

3285
01:35:09,712 --> 01:35:09,912
motion to adjourn at 8:34 P.M..

3286
01:35:09,912 --> 01:35:10,450
Okay.

3287
01:35:10,450 --> 01:35:10,913
I

3288
01:35:10,913 --> 01:35:11,800
ll second. Okay.

3289
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:12,810
We

3290
01:35:12,810 --> 01:35:13,182
ve got a motion by council

3291
01:35:13,182 --> 01:35:14,216
member Doan and a second by

3292
01:35:14,216 --> 01:35:16,318
council member Marilyn to

3293
01:35:16,318 --> 01:35:17,753
adjourn at 830 for tonight. All

3294
01:35:17,753 --> 01:35:18,187
in favor? Please say aye.

3295
01:35:18,187 --> 01:35:18,788
Aye.

3296
01:35:18,788 --> 01:35:19,856
All opposed?

3297
01:35:19,856 --> 01:35:21,856
Same sign.