1 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:54,690 Thank you for joining us in the leadership of the board. We're going to show it at this time in the comments. May the order. Please join me for fortunately. Let me just do the flag of the United States and America. I'm going to give you a little bit of distance. One nation under that, and you can just go to the other side. 2 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:12,380 Mayor DeBulls, just use Amos, Fabia, here, Brockman, Chapman, Luciano, and Southridge here. 3 00:03:13,420 --> 00:03:14,100 I'm 4 00:03:19,060 --> 00:03:19,840 going to move on to our city. 5 00:03:20,060 --> 00:03:21,380 Section 90, city of Washington, 6 00:03:21,380 --> 00:03:22,540 we're addressing the report. 7 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,960 Sir, your just state your name for that. 8 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,160 My name is Danny Easing. 9 00:03:35,180 --> 00:03:39,400 I live in 613 Harris Lane in Ecuador and Charlotte. 10 00:03:40,260 --> 00:03:46,640 My hair tonight, the mayor board aware of the non-going behavior 11 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,000 from my neighbor, 622 Harris Lane. 12 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,160 His name is Philippe Pranchini. 13 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,730 Now my family and I believe constitute a rascal, 14 00:04:01,030 --> 00:04:01,670 intimidation, 15 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,280 and safety concerns on 82 years old. 16 00:04:07,340 --> 00:04:08,320 And I have one. 17 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,420 These issues have been occurring for years, 18 00:04:11,820 --> 00:04:18,140 escalating recently to a point that is extremely successful. 19 00:04:18,940 --> 00:04:23,320 family, stressful and concerning for all of us in the neighborhood. 20 00:04:25,620 --> 00:04:34,600 Well, Horses has now been run into property which does not, I believe, meet village rules 21 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,020 and zoning requirements. 22 00:04:37,020 --> 00:04:43,900 This is yet another example of the behavior that disrespects community standards that 23 00:04:43,900 --> 00:04:46,320 concern for my neighborhood. 24 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:56,460 I've got some examples of my point behavior issues. One issue 25 00:04:56,460 --> 00:04:59,980 issue we have is parking vehicles in front of our car. 26 00:05:05,970 --> 00:05:20,330 On fire from this old residence, his residence is over a blast away and he chooses to park his vehicles in front of my home and my neighbor's home. 27 00:05:20,330 --> 00:05:25,830 It constricts when it back out, it's a great difficult to see. 28 00:05:26,230 --> 00:05:32,350 He has a couple of years from one is a big drum truck 29 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,710 and another one is a van. 30 00:05:36,590 --> 00:05:43,790 We contact the police because this appears to be intentional harassment. 31 00:05:46,340 --> 00:05:49,920 The other day, he was riding a bike 32 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:56,640 through the neighborhood in an unsafe and appropriate way. 33 00:05:57,660 --> 00:06:05,320 On sidewalks, through yards, including yards and grass around the way. 34 00:06:06,260 --> 00:06:12,380 When I asked him to keep up with my yard, 35 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,960 I have a strengthen system of my yard. 36 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:23,660 I asked him to keep his son, he'd bike off from my arm, my yard, he responded, I can 37 00:06:23,660 --> 00:06:27,820 do whatever I want, with the camera for a while. 38 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:34,300 I asked him to turn the camera off and he decided that he said he didn't have to. 39 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:46,000 He has a big lawnmower, one of these lawnmowers that you ride, and he continually drives the 40 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:54,500 one more two-hour yard to the lake area, leaving marks that do come off, do not come off, 41 00:06:54,580 --> 00:07:03,500 he actually drove his one more two-mile new concrete partway and put some black marks in 42 00:07:03,500 --> 00:07:07,820 And he's riding around the neighborhood. 43 00:07:09,940 --> 00:07:10,620 Everybody 44 00:07:14,650 --> 00:07:17,550 probably knows that he has decided to 45 00:07:23,630 --> 00:07:30,130 do his part-way through the trees 46 00:07:30,130 --> 00:07:39,990 and he knows about the part-way and we've asked him to have the part-way drilled in and nothing's been done. 47 00:07:43,030 --> 00:07:51,270 The latest thing is he's wandering through the neighborhood right near our home because 48 00:07:51,270 --> 00:07:52,010 of this. 49 00:07:52,830 --> 00:08:00,510 I have sold 4 cameras around my property, the frequently videos and we feel this behavior 50 00:08:00,510 --> 00:08:03,110 is stocking and intimidation. 51 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:11,560 Throughout the end to this he repeatedly states that he can do what everyone does actually make us unsafe. 52 00:08:12,100 --> 00:08:17,860 In our own neighborhood this is not normal. The behavior has gone far too long. 53 00:08:19,340 --> 00:08:25,620 My family and others in the neighborhood are asking the board to formally acknowledge these concerns, 54 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:32,560 document them and advise us what stuff can be taken to address this behavior. 55 00:08:33,180 --> 00:08:40,240 and including the presence of this force, which is believed, I believe, not prevented under 56 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,400 bill and clause. 57 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,500 I hope we can resolve this issue safely. 58 00:08:47,180 --> 00:08:48,240 Thank you for your time. 59 00:08:49,340 --> 00:08:49,720 Thank you, sir. 60 00:08:50,220 --> 00:08:50,400 May 61 00:08:55,780 --> 00:08:56,900 I ask what should we address the board? 62 00:08:57,940 --> 00:08:58,220 Yes, sir. 63 00:08:58,620 --> 00:08:58,760 Thank you. 64 00:08:58,960 --> 00:08:59,980 It's time to 65 00:09:03,210 --> 00:09:04,570 be forced to accommodate me. 66 00:09:04,650 --> 00:09:06,030 Could you state your name for the record? 67 00:09:11,550 --> 00:09:24,210 So he has heard a lot about me writing to people, you are the head of the cameras when you launch those false accusations. I think it's very important to put your chief of police to work in your office. 68 00:09:24,210 --> 00:09:30,610 okay? I partly tried to throw their house because they started complaining. I've 69 00:09:30,610 --> 00:09:36,070 been in my home for 13 years. I've wanted to try to, the year I left, to go to 70 00:09:36,070 --> 00:09:39,710 Chicago, it was between three, maybe two, actually, about the year after. 71 00:09:42,310 --> 00:09:42,890 When I 72 00:09:42,890 --> 00:09:50,770 part, I was here on the 25th in the morning, I spoke to Mr. Cleveland, and I spoke to 73 00:09:50,770 --> 00:09:58,350 your police officer, okay. So in that home I went to take a picture of you at 74 00:09:58,350 --> 00:09:59,470 That's outside of the water. 75 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:29,420 As I've been telling you to fix it, and we take the pictures of the training we're upon. There's been a flood for a long time. As I'm part of the New York Junior Crangle, which is this man's, came out and started shooting golf balls at my truck. Don't you get your F-truck? I'm driving. Well, I'm recording you the next day. Okay? He starts shooting golf balls at my truck, and they come to stop him. Okay? I call the cops. This bravarado shows up giving him high-pies and high knuckles. Okay? 76 00:10:29,860 --> 00:10:39,740 So then I came to you meeting late at night, then I went home looking to talk to one of the neighbors, because they had a lynch mark before. 77 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,000 Since they, I'm going to show them... 78 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,060 Adjust the board surface. 79 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:44,600 Okay? 80 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,300 Keep your college task towards me. 81 00:10:46,380 --> 00:10:47,120 I'm keeping the video. 82 00:10:47,340 --> 00:10:47,780 Okay, look at it. 83 00:10:47,860 --> 00:10:48,540 You need to learn. 84 00:10:49,260 --> 00:10:50,100 Oh, okay. 85 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:51,640 You need to wrap the meat forward. 86 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,380 Mr. Chapman, you need to wrap the meat forward. 87 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:56,320 And so, I'm going to wrap the meat forward. 88 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:57,900 And the woman, you cannot do that. 89 00:10:57,900 --> 00:11:03,160 Okay, you cannot and you will be here. I'm so waiting for it. I'll be going from the 90 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:09,040 lesson. Okay, you realize as they told you the other day, you're pushing and you think that 91 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:14,000 we're referring from profanities. There's not profanities. Okay. So, you didn't like it 92 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,480 because I referred to certain of your employees as a maggots. When they come in for 93 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,480 actually, he makes statements about your sidewalk. He didn't let him know about that sidewalk. 94 00:11:25,340 --> 00:11:32,180 because Mr. Crandall blew the dog whistle and Mr. Stereoli and Mr. Stereoli came and grabbed 95 00:11:32,180 --> 00:11:40,060 at my house and then he got approved from your department heads, the heads. That's my 96 00:11:40,060 --> 00:11:44,560 guess. I was heading in with him to tell this man that he'll be knowing the Department 97 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:49,400 of Human Rights and how their housing and soon the Department of Justice will be investigating 98 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:54,320 that horse I have in my house is a horse, it's a servicent, okay? 99 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,660 I've been told by people that I cannot walk my horse 100 00:11:58,660 --> 00:12:03,120 under sidewalk, I cannot walk my horse under the right of me. 101 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,080 Somebody tell this people who owns it, but I've been asking you, who owns it? 102 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,160 I don't know, right away, who owns it, okay? 103 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,800 You need to tell this people who owns it, okay? 104 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,200 I pay taxes just as much as they should, it's not more. 105 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:21,260 Now tell, show you his video cameras when you come here and launch this kind of ads, okay. 106 00:12:21,940 --> 00:12:25,740 You know what that amounts to, and you don't like that word, okay. 107 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:32,880 So, it's very important if you tell your officers that they, Mr. Crenton, have a hard time, 108 00:12:32,900 --> 00:12:34,640 but what is that that's actually up to me. 109 00:12:35,060 --> 00:12:40,200 I've parked five blocks away, six blocks away from his house, and my street, we live up to 110 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:47,160 He decided to do a 911 call to do a post police report, because there's a suspicion, dangerous, 111 00:12:47,560 --> 00:12:49,900 handicap, 100% disabled individual. 112 00:12:50,860 --> 00:12:56,140 Partly, as a way from his home, then he goes and I can have him driving for a whole hour back 113 00:12:56,140 --> 00:12:57,200 and for him to leave his house. 114 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:58,540 There's an act. 115 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:04,420 From my home, I went to Menars to do something, came back home, and he was in his driving, 116 00:13:04,580 --> 00:13:06,780 so I went around and parked waiting for somebody else. 117 00:13:06,780 --> 00:13:09,940 He was going to have power, okay? 118 00:13:10,700 --> 00:13:12,860 You have your whole police department over there, okay? 119 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:19,540 For these dangerous men, dangerous men with a camera, okay? 120 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,520 Obviously, he's not subtracting, he's out there making all these straps 121 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:24,720 and I told him where to go. 122 00:13:25,180 --> 00:13:26,560 A lot of pretend movies, okay? 123 00:13:27,340 --> 00:13:30,160 So for you guys, it's not good that I say shit, 124 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:31,860 when you're fully fed. 125 00:13:31,860 --> 00:13:36,120 And he was praying in the time, he was breaking up my face. 126 00:13:36,860 --> 00:13:40,080 He called me a fucking brutal, and that's when he called me. 127 00:13:40,100 --> 00:13:41,920 I'm telling you, I'm explaining, okay? 128 00:13:42,460 --> 00:13:44,760 Then you, police officer, time's over to tell you, 129 00:13:44,900 --> 00:13:45,720 oh, that's free speech. 130 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,100 So I told them that I can call you a fucking pig. 131 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:49,200 Mr. Franchini. 132 00:13:49,780 --> 00:13:51,680 Mr. Franchini, I'm just explaining. 133 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,380 Profality of that, nature's not gonna be tolerated, okay. 134 00:13:54,580 --> 00:13:56,380 And I'm just explaining what he said. 135 00:13:56,580 --> 00:13:58,300 So that's free speech for your employees 136 00:13:58,300 --> 00:13:59,760 to call me on that, whatever. 137 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:07,060 But it's not okay for me and to come and explain to you. We know, okay, I'm explaining. I'm not holding your hand, whatever. 138 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,420 Okay, because if you always are telling me, he goes under the floor before the speech. 139 00:14:12,260 --> 00:14:14,660 Okay, so you need to wrap it up. Sorry, you're right. 140 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,780 Five minutes. Okay, so let's get it together. 141 00:14:18,180 --> 00:14:21,180 Tell this man, both of them, to show you their truth. 142 00:14:21,180 --> 00:14:25,180 The board earners get a lot more base on the VR, okay? 143 00:14:26,060 --> 00:14:28,460 Next thing they're going to say, my force is to earn. 144 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:29,560 It's a initial force. 145 00:14:29,940 --> 00:14:32,200 It's approved by the third government. 146 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,400 Okay, under ATA, you need to pay accommodation. 147 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,960 That force will be singing here next to me as soon as he gets finished training. 148 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,300 Okay, I'm waiting for his diapers and we start pooping. 149 00:14:43,660 --> 00:14:45,980 Don't start learning because he could be needless pooping. 150 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,460 Okay, so thank you for your time. 151 00:14:48,460 --> 00:14:55,360 and so much that I come here, gathering your evidence, your information, okay, send 152 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,320 your police officers to some productive work. 153 00:14:57,900 --> 00:14:59,060 It needs somebody's filing course. 154 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,840 Fourth, please be forth, do what you have to do. Okay. Thank you for your time, sir. Thank you. 155 00:15:07,580 --> 00:15:09,500 Anybody else wishing you address the billers board? 156 00:15:13,710 --> 00:15:33,770 Seeing none of the movements of the meetings, consented, agenda item number one is approval of the regular board meeting, minutes from August 25th, 2026. Item two will be approval of the committee, the whole meeting, minutes from August 25th, 2026. Item number three will be approval of the committee. 157 00:15:33,770 --> 00:15:43,330 on the amount of $470,843.8 cents, item 4 is a total of a payment amount of $27,816 to any 158 00:15:43,330 --> 00:15:49,010 substance for the valve assessment exercising program, item 5 is a total of a payment amount 159 00:15:49,010 --> 00:15:56,830 of $709,703.12, such the Joseph J. Henderson Sons for the pumping station and the water and 160 00:15:56,830 --> 00:16:04,810 receiving reservoir, items six of the approval of babymouth 294, 580, 133 cents to Austin 161 00:16:04,810 --> 00:16:11,590 Tower of Construction for the 2026 NIT Resurfacing Project, and finally item number 7 is a 162 00:16:11,590 --> 00:16:19,270 approval of payment amount of 530, 795, 5 cents to get construction for the rural road, 163 00:16:49,690 --> 00:16:54,070 We do have a constitution week proclamation, part 164 00:16:59,830 --> 00:17:02,810 of that, a lot of us really know that you received prior to? 165 00:17:03,230 --> 00:17:03,850 Yes, thank you. 166 00:17:03,970 --> 00:17:04,510 Okay, thank you. 167 00:17:06,580 --> 00:17:11,880 A constitution week, September 17th, through September 23rd, 2026. 168 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:20,820 Whereas, it is the privilege and duty of the Americans to be able to commemorate the 239th anniversary of the signing of the Constitution of the United States of America 169 00:17:20,820 --> 00:17:26,480 with the corporate ceremonies and activities and we're as public law 915 guarantees the 170 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,060 issuing of the final missions each year by the President of the United States of America 171 00:17:30,060 --> 00:17:33,960 that's a year in December 17th through the 23rd Constitution. 172 00:17:34,660 --> 00:17:38,800 Now, therefore, I pledge even more by virtue of the authority vested in me as the President 173 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,280 of the Red Bull to shoreward in the state of Illinois, to be here by proclaim this week's 174 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,840 December 17th through the 23rd, 2026, as Constitutional. 175 00:17:47,340 --> 00:17:49,620 And our all citizens have to study the Constitution. 176 00:17:49,820 --> 00:17:51,500 We've looked at the privilege of being in America 177 00:17:51,500 --> 00:17:53,440 with all rights and responsibilities 178 00:17:54,020 --> 00:17:55,260 which that privilege involves. 179 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,760 And witness thereof, I have here too, 180 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,540 some hand calls in the seal of the village 181 00:18:00,540 --> 00:18:02,380 and we have fixed on this eighth day of September, 182 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,880 in the order of 2026. 183 00:18:05,660 --> 00:18:07,940 And we do have a signed proclamation. 184 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,480 We do have some more presentations here. 185 00:18:15,030 --> 00:18:15,850 Any here? 186 00:18:16,430 --> 00:18:17,350 Any here? 187 00:18:17,790 --> 00:18:19,570 We have here about every year. 188 00:18:19,810 --> 00:18:20,470 That's what it is. 189 00:18:21,690 --> 00:18:25,930 Right before Constitutions Meet, we are from the EAR. 190 00:18:26,150 --> 00:18:27,570 We have the resolution. 191 00:18:29,310 --> 00:18:31,870 As before, I'm calling her pink. 192 00:18:32,370 --> 00:18:33,590 This is Elizabeth Pelosi. 193 00:18:34,290 --> 00:18:35,410 She's got a bad voice. 194 00:18:35,570 --> 00:18:36,630 She will just smile. 195 00:18:39,230 --> 00:18:47,570 She is also a member of D.A.R. and to Mayor Jevold and others of the Shorwood Village. 196 00:18:48,130 --> 00:18:53,890 Thank you very much for allowing us to come before you tonight to receive this congratulations. 197 00:18:55,390 --> 00:19:02,330 As the Mayor stated, the Constitution is from September 17th and the 23rd. 198 00:19:02,330 --> 00:19:12,470 And it is important to make it because we'd like to let people know how important the Constitution is, especially for children. 199 00:19:13,730 --> 00:19:18,350 We've learned about the Constitution in May 3rd Illinois as I understand. 200 00:19:18,350 --> 00:19:29,750 And we, members of the D.I.R., we are, we're building for a school, a segment school within, totally up, every year. 201 00:19:30,250 --> 00:19:36,330 And we give them a book on the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence and about our founding fathers. 202 00:19:36,330 --> 00:19:43,290 And so another guy that I am dressed up in, one of the dresses with the hat and the long 203 00:19:43,290 --> 00:19:43,730 dresses. 204 00:19:45,110 --> 00:19:47,350 Tell them all about our money fathers. 205 00:19:48,090 --> 00:19:51,050 I'm trying to relate them to their lives. 206 00:19:51,750 --> 00:19:55,270 You can do this right before they take their bus to the test. 207 00:19:55,990 --> 00:19:58,010 So if you look at that helps them. 208 00:19:58,770 --> 00:19:59,950 So, it's just like... 209 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:08,500 The purpose of mission of the TKR is to perpetuate the memory and spirit of the men and women who achieved 210 00:20:08,500 --> 00:20:16,580 from American independence in 1776, almost four hundred and fifty years ago. To that end, we promote education 211 00:20:16,580 --> 00:20:25,960 of the Constitutionized School to decide, as I explained, by courage and same halls. And we have a poster that 212 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,880 to take to the schools, and it has a declaration of independence on it. 213 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,320 As Abraham Lincoln said at the end of the Civil War, quote, 214 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:40,300 our liberty, our safety depends on preserving the Constitution of the United States 215 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,080 as our fathers made it in violate. 216 00:20:44,220 --> 00:20:48,700 The people of the United States are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, 217 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:54,180 now to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow that and overthrow the Constitution. 218 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,140 Thank you very much. 219 00:20:58,620 --> 00:21:04,480 Thank you very much. No, thank you. Thanks for what you're doing with the schools and continue to help educate the youth. 220 00:21:06,740 --> 00:21:07,360 Thank you. 221 00:21:10,940 --> 00:21:13,000 Okay, as we move forward into the 222 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:17,680 in order of business is the 7-1, will be a consideration for approval of an ordinance 223 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:17,900 amendment. 224 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,240 I will just show our code of ordinances with respect to water meters. 225 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,660 This item is up for a second read, over to Ms. Berkold with finance. 226 00:21:26,730 --> 00:21:27,290 Thank you, Mayor. 227 00:21:27,690 --> 00:21:33,930 This is the second read of an ordinance that we brought forward to clarify the diligence 228 00:21:34,690 --> 00:21:41,750 intention for the property owner to fare responsibility for the cost of meter replacement when the 229 00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:49,710 meter is damaged, or found in operable prior to the end of its natural life cycle. 230 00:21:50,270 --> 00:21:56,730 I do want to be clear that this does not include instances of meters hampering or deliberate 231 00:21:56,730 --> 00:22:00,950 misuse, or when the meter is faulty. 232 00:22:03,190 --> 00:22:08,250 We've got sections of the code that identify how those actions go forward. 233 00:22:08,250 --> 00:22:13,850 word, this is exclusively four times when a meter is damaged, most often ensure what 234 00:22:13,850 --> 00:22:18,810 that occurs in the winter months when the home is not properly heated and the meter freezes 235 00:22:18,810 --> 00:22:22,810 and is no longer available. Be happy to take any questions. 236 00:22:24,270 --> 00:22:32,290 Yes. I had one question and reading it, I wasn't sure. This does not include wear and 237 00:22:32,290 --> 00:22:40,810 here. If it's normal wear and tear, the resident would still be responsible to pay for a meter. 238 00:22:41,650 --> 00:22:49,170 No, normal wear and tear, if the meter is no longer working, the village replaces the 239 00:22:49,170 --> 00:22:57,530 meters when they when they wear out naturally about a 15-year cycle in the 240 00:22:57,530 --> 00:23:05,250 rail. So wear and tear is not a vision that would they would be very have to pay 241 00:23:05,250 --> 00:23:05,810 for. No. 242 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,180 Any else have any questions on us? 243 00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:15,990 It's not. I could take a motion to 244 00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:20,130 approve the ordinance. I'll make a motion for the approval of an ordinance 245 00:23:20,130 --> 00:23:23,450 amending the village of Shorewood code of ordinances with respect to water 246 00:23:23,450 --> 00:23:29,050 second motion by trusty sulfur it's seconded by trusty badiac roll call please 247 00:23:29,050 --> 00:23:39,390 Brockman yes yes yes yes okay I have number one's been approved moving on to 248 00:23:39,390 --> 00:23:43,030 business at number two would be a consideration of an ordinance granting a 249 00:23:43,030 --> 00:23:48,470 zoning map amendment to the B3 zoning district for short north point north lot 250 00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:55,390 this item is up for first read trustee Brockman and his ankle okay thank you mayor we did 251 00:23:55,390 --> 00:24:04,630 hold the public hearing on this agenda item at our last meeting no one spoke for against the 252 00:24:04,630 --> 00:24:13,170 project or the ordinance from the public and it comes here with a 50 vote of approval and 253 00:24:13,170 --> 00:24:16,510 And Natalie, you gave us some of the finer details, please. 254 00:24:17,030 --> 00:24:17,370 Certainly. 255 00:24:18,250 --> 00:24:20,830 The project we're talking about is, so 256 00:24:26,590 --> 00:24:28,490 the project we're looking at today is the Northern 257 00:24:28,490 --> 00:24:34,030 most property in the Dolce Shore Ward along 59, so it's just south of the Bell Tire, which 258 00:24:34,030 --> 00:24:38,330 is actually in Joliette, and kind of north of that area where we have Portillo's Brayford 259 00:24:38,330 --> 00:24:39,390 Cabinet Enterprise. 260 00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:45,770 The property was actually developed in Will County in an incorporated zoning, but was then 261 00:24:45,770 --> 00:24:47,010 annexed to the village. 262 00:24:47,010 --> 00:24:51,890 So it has a mix of mostly, how to mix the mostly industrial auto uses at that time. 263 00:24:52,990 --> 00:24:58,690 The village zoned it before, that whole area, and it's kind of ping pong back and forth. 264 00:24:58,690 --> 00:24:59,970 They've asked for several... 265 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:06,340 Resonings to accommodate various uses over time. So we're coming forward to you today for 266 00:25:06,340 --> 00:25:11,220 rezoning requests for B3, but we anticipate coming forward in the next several months to 267 00:25:11,220 --> 00:25:15,940 request not just to rezoning the whole property, but also a PUD to accommodate some of the unique 268 00:25:15,940 --> 00:25:20,800 uses. So anyways, long story short, this is the property along the north side in the black 269 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:27,440 dots. The entirety of the north lot, there's a building and the redevelopment property where 270 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:33,180 the old dot motor works was. They are looking to lease it to service one and to dynamic 271 00:25:33,180 --> 00:25:38,080 sector systems, dynamic sector services which you're going to hear conditional use for 272 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:44,140 in a little bit. And we feel that the B3 zoning would be more appropriate on this property 273 00:25:44,140 --> 00:25:49,740 given that it's longer commercial corridor. These are the mixes uses there and this is their 274 00:25:49,740 --> 00:25:55,060 of some survey that shows the general outline of the law it would be the north half. 275 00:25:56,740 --> 00:26:01,220 Do you have any questions? The applicant wasn't able to make it today but I'm 276 00:26:01,220 --> 00:26:04,120 happy to answer any questions I can or if you'd like to pass on the first 277 00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:08,720 reading, wait till next time, that would be fine too. Anybody have any questions 278 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:16,200 around early? I've got maybe a couple. So it's just the north piece that's going to 279 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:24,220 go from B, 4 to B3, and then the front southeast is B3, and then the Southwest is B4. 280 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,000 It's B4, so what we've really been asking them to do for quite a while, and they're 281 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:33,240 doing right now, we've asked them to come in with a PUD, because we have the zoning district 282 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:38,600 that's B4, it's essentially just auto-uses, and some very automobile-oriented things like 283 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:39,420 castations and whatnot. 284 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:45,020 It's not working there, it doesn't make sense along 59, so we've asked them to come in 285 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,800 and do a PUD for the entire thing, 286 00:26:48,020 --> 00:26:50,300 they're asking for this kind of a stop gap measure 287 00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:52,140 because they'd like to accommodate dynamic 288 00:26:52,140 --> 00:26:55,640 septic systems and their use wouldn't 289 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:56,980 be permitted in the D4 district. 290 00:26:58,020 --> 00:26:59,940 I can't tell you how many cases I found 291 00:26:59,940 --> 00:27:01,300 where this property has been resumed. 292 00:27:01,740 --> 00:27:03,620 It's really gone back and forth over the years. 293 00:27:05,020 --> 00:27:07,300 I guess many of my questions related to zoning 294 00:27:07,300 --> 00:27:09,280 are made as related to night number two. 295 00:27:09,780 --> 00:27:12,020 I looked at that property on Sunday. 296 00:27:12,020 --> 00:27:16,900 there's like there's two dumpsters and random spots, no garbage grouse, there's 297 00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:23,260 tire stored outside, there's like a line of 15 cars parked, like is that all, part 298 00:27:23,260 --> 00:27:30,080 of that zoning is it all allowed? It is not, it's hard to say this, but it's actually 299 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,280 significantly better. Mr. Stariotti has been working with them for the past 300 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,260 couple of years, there used to be, you know, junk cars and trailers and boats and 301 00:27:37,260 --> 00:27:41,800 everything parked back there, you know, it used to be much worse so they have sort 302 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,100 of come into compliance with a lot of code enforcement rules, and part of the idea of 303 00:27:46,100 --> 00:27:48,480 the PUD is how are we going to get this corrected over time. 304 00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:54,120 Unfortunately, it didn't come into Shorewood in the situation most projects would have had 305 00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:55,560 a very industrial field to it. 306 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,760 There was some gravel back there, there were, you know, we're living a little bit with 307 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:00,960 the existing situation. 308 00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:05,400 But we would like them to come up with a plan for how they're going to improve it and address 309 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:10,340 things like the dumpsters and the storage and the blind corners and things like that. 310 00:28:10,340 --> 00:28:14,900 So, like, there are already in violation of whatever zoning is there now, or we're going 311 00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:19,520 to change the zoning, and likely there'll still be in violation of whatever the zoning 312 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:20,560 requires? 313 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:22,560 Yeah. 314 00:28:24,820 --> 00:28:28,700 It's hard to say that it comes 75% of the way, there's still ways to go. 315 00:28:29,900 --> 00:28:30,100 Okay. 316 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,900 But, in overall, we think, Steph thinks that this is only in change and makes the most sense 317 00:28:34,900 --> 00:28:35,660 for that property. 318 00:28:35,820 --> 00:28:38,600 And long-term, we probably want all of it to be B3. 319 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:39,080 Yeah. 320 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,580 Yeah, we don't want to say you can only have auto uses on the site. 321 00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:45,040 We'd rather it have the same building as like a target and maybe give them permission 322 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,220 then for some of their auto uses that are already there. 323 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,540 So we can kind of see it as two parallel systems, one where we've got to work with them on 324 00:28:55,540 --> 00:28:59,700 the property condition and then the other where they request the zoning change we need to 325 00:28:59,700 --> 00:29:00,520 follow up in the future. 326 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:01,540 Okay. 327 00:29:03,710 --> 00:29:04,430 Thank you. 328 00:29:04,570 --> 00:29:10,530 We're allowed in so much time to get it up the park where it's supposed to be or is it just 329 00:29:10,530 --> 00:29:17,550 And I'm going to think we're going to give a time out like six months to get it to their 330 00:29:17,550 --> 00:29:17,870 point. 331 00:29:18,310 --> 00:29:21,870 A staff we were thinking is it's hard to condition a zoning on code enforcement things 332 00:29:21,870 --> 00:29:26,130 that we were thinking that we would do sort of parallel track code enforcement stuff, 333 00:29:26,730 --> 00:29:31,650 which we have been working with them on unfortunately the representative wasn't able to be here. 334 00:29:32,290 --> 00:29:37,950 But they have made a lot of progress over the last year in getting stuff together so we 335 00:29:37,950 --> 00:29:42,170 You can certainly issue a letter saying you have, you know, until, you know, 30 days 336 00:29:42,170 --> 00:29:45,310 to file an application for PUD, you know, it's a different thing. 337 00:29:45,310 --> 00:29:46,110 No, I understand. 338 00:29:46,550 --> 00:29:51,730 But, you know, that doesn't solve the problem you get done, but I have no problem with doing 339 00:29:51,730 --> 00:29:51,910 that. 340 00:29:52,190 --> 00:29:54,330 It's just a scandal out of it. 341 00:29:54,450 --> 00:29:59,710 It makes sense that it's already in violation and you should probably want to think. 342 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:16,480 Do something to make sure it gets into code, warning code by the time in a certain period of time, rather than just leaving a carte blanche like in some cases in the past world, we're still working on trying to get them off the part. 343 00:30:17,060 --> 00:30:19,280 Mr. Solomon, can we do a condition on a zoning? 344 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:19,940 On a rezoning? 345 00:30:20,660 --> 00:30:21,480 Didn't think we could. 346 00:30:23,060 --> 00:30:24,140 It's been done before. 347 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,440 It's generally not. 348 00:30:28,380 --> 00:30:33,380 I have my other question is, is that part of, is it, is it the zoning thing or, you know, 349 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,920 the next item is a conditional use, like, whose responsibility is it? 350 00:30:38,580 --> 00:30:43,880 Like, can you put it as part of the conditional use of this, the site cleanup and they have to 351 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,460 to work that out with the landlord or is that not the proper channels? 352 00:30:48,540 --> 00:30:51,100 I guess we can do either way. In reality, the side issues 353 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,020 opposed to the property on it, as opposed to the tenants, 354 00:30:55,140 --> 00:30:58,300 although it's much more common to do conditions that it can just leave. 355 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,440 Is part of the delay due to previous or existing leases in place, 356 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,980 has that been part of the hold-up of getting some of the things 357 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,920 rectified over there? I think it's probably largely because it wasn't 358 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,460 built since current standards originally right so you know there's gravel back 359 00:31:16,460 --> 00:31:21,100 there there's great differences back there there's there's no pond there's no 360 00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:25,040 downstairs closures but there never were and I think that's where it gets 361 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,940 challenging it was the annexation agreement was done in order to get 362 00:31:28,940 --> 00:31:33,240 contradictory for some well-sized as part of a big negotiation so it was 363 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:38,720 probably it's since a fire but it was much more relaxed than most annexation 364 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,780 agreements we've seen and they were able to do some things that we wouldn't do a 365 00:31:41,780 --> 00:31:47,640 So, you know, they would meet solvent standards and unfortunately, you know, a lot of maintenance 366 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:48,860 that just hasn't done very well. 367 00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:55,080 I know this one will be slightly off, but within that property, the building in the front 368 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,480 that burned down, do you know if there's any plans to redo anything out there? 369 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:05,460 I know that's not in this exact zoning block, but I know it's right or at least it's closed to it anyway. 370 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,680 So over the years we've had numerous conversations with the property owner about their desire to move 371 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,780 caliber collision from the phases they operate in the back part of the lot. 372 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:23,780 So just about a thousand east to the west of this to build them in the facility, up 373 00:32:23,780 --> 00:32:26,100 towards the front where Doc's motor works used to be. 374 00:32:26,740 --> 00:32:28,160 We haven't seen any applications. 375 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,100 We don't really see sketch plans for that, but that would be their intention. 376 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,060 We have sense of potential clients, they're ready for things like mixer restaurants and stuff 377 00:32:36,060 --> 00:32:38,800 like that, but they haven't been in a position to sell property to them. 378 00:32:40,590 --> 00:32:45,390 I mean, Mr. Sturdy, anything that you can add to that about the achievement of working with the property owners? 379 00:32:49,610 --> 00:32:56,770 Yeah, the building that Natalie is talking about is the one on the north where three of the units 380 00:32:56,770 --> 00:33:02,250 burned with the best hybrid battery, which we eventually got out. 381 00:33:02,690 --> 00:33:05,430 So, this is a building that he's rehabbed. 382 00:33:05,510 --> 00:33:08,350 He's put a new fire alarm system in. 383 00:33:08,350 --> 00:33:13,590 And he's been working well to try to bring that building up to code. 384 00:33:14,510 --> 00:33:18,210 And the fire district feels that he has. 385 00:33:18,870 --> 00:33:24,010 So this is the building that has a couple of the businesses that he's trying to move in. 386 00:33:25,510 --> 00:33:31,690 Some of the dumpsters and stuff like that have been brought up aren't necessarily with 387 00:33:31,690 --> 00:33:32,570 that building. 388 00:33:32,570 --> 00:33:34,890 They're with a couple of the other buildings. 389 00:33:34,890 --> 00:33:41,190 things. Anything that we would want him to do, I think we could lay out and get him to 390 00:33:41,190 --> 00:33:49,050 do as far as keep the dumpsters in the back or put a fence up. He's worked with me well 391 00:33:49,050 --> 00:33:57,630 on everything moving forward. It's taken a while, but that north building is now looking 392 00:33:57,630 --> 00:34:06,030 better than some of the other buildings. He has talked about moving the collision to 393 00:34:06,030 --> 00:34:12,030 where the dock motors was. He has some artist renditions, but like Natalie said he hasn't 394 00:34:12,030 --> 00:34:18,450 moved forward, applying for a permit or bringing any of them to the board for approval yet. 395 00:34:20,450 --> 00:34:23,850 Do you have a stock motor works fit in B3 zoning? 396 00:34:24,870 --> 00:34:25,210 No. 397 00:34:28,740 --> 00:34:35,680 So we're changing the zoning to B3 and then his plan is to move a business that won't fit in B3. 398 00:34:35,980 --> 00:34:42,900 So what we were hoping to do is get the entire property zoned B3 and then in the PUD, 399 00:34:42,900 --> 00:34:47,340 given the ability to come forward and ask for like a conditional use that they want to do something like that. 400 00:34:47,740 --> 00:34:53,520 similar to what we would have done, you know, back in the day when NTB moved in in 401 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:58,100 front of the Dominics, which is now the other tire store. But so we do have 402 00:34:58,100 --> 00:34:59,880 situations like that we just think that we're 403 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:08,260 We better off if the underlying zoning is retail and we try to fit a couple of auto uses instead of having auto and trying to sandwich and retail uses. Okay. 404 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:29,480 So just one last thing. Is there anything we can do? Like an agreement with them that they would have it up to code with any year rather than just leaving it up to chance? And I realized they're working at it. But by the same token, you could work at it for the next five years. 405 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:33,120 I'm not saying they would do that, but it's possible. 406 00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:33,600 Sir. 407 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,180 Having deferred accounts, if that can be added, 408 00:35:36,260 --> 00:35:36,980 and something like that. 409 00:35:37,340 --> 00:35:40,800 We could sit down and negotiate, 410 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,320 and agree with what we have. 411 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,220 I'd like to see that happen just so we're sure that 412 00:35:46,220 --> 00:35:48,440 we get these properties where we have. 413 00:35:48,980 --> 00:35:51,520 We get not necessarily them, but we have problems 414 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,780 with some properties where they never do get the poll. 415 00:35:55,220 --> 00:35:59,920 and we're doing it. It puts stress on him having to go out there and trying to keep him on. 416 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,340 So if we could add something like that, I'm all on favor. 417 00:36:05,340 --> 00:36:06,480 Any other questions? 418 00:36:08,220 --> 00:36:09,340 I agree with that point. 419 00:36:10,580 --> 00:36:15,180 So we'll leave it as a first read and bring it back in two weeks to see if that can be tidied up with that part of it. 420 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,200 Fair enough? 421 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:17,200 Absolutely. 422 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:17,680 All right. 423 00:36:20,190 --> 00:36:22,410 So item two will be left as a first read. 424 00:36:26,910 --> 00:36:32,810 item 3 would be a consideration of orange granted condition or use for contractors office in the B3 zoning district for dynamic 425 00:36:32,810 --> 00:36:37,270 septic this item is also for a first raid would only apply that this remains 426 00:36:37,270 --> 00:36:41,370 as well as a first raid until we get the zoning amendment but if you like to 427 00:36:42,610 --> 00:36:46,030 review the information as well each you can at least cover that through the first 428 00:36:46,030 --> 00:36:52,830 raid certainly so dynamic septic would like to move in I think they actually have already moved into that building 429 00:36:52,830 --> 00:36:56,770 so we caught the issue when they applied for a business license. 430 00:36:57,670 --> 00:37:03,330 They are a locally owned septic service, so they repair septic systems and replace them. 431 00:37:03,690 --> 00:37:09,550 They would like to occupy this space as an office and potentially to house their two trucks. 432 00:37:10,250 --> 00:37:13,210 The only thing they'd really be doing with their trucks is washing them occasionally. 433 00:37:13,210 --> 00:37:17,730 There is a triple base in the building, so there would be two vehicles. 434 00:37:17,930 --> 00:37:20,030 They'd be parked in the building outside of work hours. 435 00:37:20,030 --> 00:37:29,770 are going back and forth, but regular hours of 7 a.m. to 4.30 p.m., and they, um, 436 00:37:31,010 --> 00:37:32,850 families, you know, quiet business. 437 00:37:35,850 --> 00:37:41,710 We, um, right now we don't feel the property is in great good enough shape that you could 438 00:37:41,710 --> 00:37:44,910 realistically strike any parking spaces and have them survive. 439 00:37:45,290 --> 00:37:48,990 When that does happen though, they would strike out two parking spaces where they could park 440 00:37:48,990 --> 00:37:52,250 there. Two trucks that side during the day and then bring them in the evening. 441 00:37:59,130 --> 00:38:02,330 Trustee Brock and Green planning is on and we're going on the issues that brought up 442 00:38:02,330 --> 00:38:11,710 during this. It was a short conversation and they did vote 5-0 and we did hold the public 443 00:38:11,710 --> 00:38:17,750 hearing and no one from the public spoke for or against it so. Anybody have any questions 444 00:38:17,750 --> 00:38:21,730 from Natalie on that one right now? I think my only way to come with work is you said that 445 00:38:21,730 --> 00:38:23,930 that they had striped spots when they can, right? 446 00:38:24,090 --> 00:38:28,810 So back to like kind of Tony's thought is that forever, right? 447 00:38:28,930 --> 00:38:31,050 They're already operating, they came out 448 00:38:31,050 --> 00:38:32,790 of planning and zoning, so they've been there 449 00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:36,290 for a month already, and I don't know whose site it is, 450 00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:38,750 like again, like can they park cars all over the parking lot 451 00:38:38,750 --> 00:38:40,950 or who's using that part a lot, right? 452 00:38:41,770 --> 00:38:43,010 Something that we know. 453 00:38:43,250 --> 00:38:46,150 Probably not conforming uses too, because they were 454 00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:48,830 annexed into the village in these conditions, 455 00:38:49,010 --> 00:38:50,650 so they suddenly take a look at us. 456 00:38:50,650 --> 00:38:54,990 I mean it's the first property coming in to shore and it it is I mean it doesn't look right. Yeah 457 00:38:56,030 --> 00:38:59,150 We don't have site line of rules because we'll have to do those back today 458 00:39:00,010 --> 00:39:04,390 But you know, so essentially they have a yard right as opposed to parking spaces 459 00:39:04,390 --> 00:39:10,410 But we'd like to do through the beauty is get those designated get a plan for when they have to when they get resurfaced 460 00:39:10,410 --> 00:39:12,770 How they get striped and things like that 461 00:39:14,190 --> 00:39:18,730 Unfortunately, we found ourselves in a little bit of a situation where we've had a couple of businesses move into those businesses 462 00:39:18,730 --> 00:39:20,790 is about licenses, so we're playing caps off. 463 00:39:22,630 --> 00:39:25,110 Yeah, it's more just, like I know here, 464 00:39:25,210 --> 00:39:26,510 we talk about those two big trucks, 465 00:39:26,590 --> 00:39:27,870 and I think they have some pickup trucks 466 00:39:27,870 --> 00:39:29,750 that's part of their service too, which is fine, 467 00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:32,890 but then all the other cars, like are those their business, 468 00:39:32,910 --> 00:39:34,370 or is that somebody else's business, 469 00:39:34,730 --> 00:39:37,990 is that allowed, or are they renting spaces, I don't know. 470 00:39:38,470 --> 00:39:40,670 Right, so like that's not addressed here, 471 00:39:40,670 --> 00:39:41,990 so where is it addressed? 472 00:39:42,350 --> 00:39:43,230 That's my questions. 473 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,520 Now then you had referenced, 474 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,320 and I think you mentioned during planning and zoning, 475 00:39:48,580 --> 00:39:49,980 how was this business discovered 476 00:39:49,980 --> 00:39:52,400 that it was up and running without a license. 477 00:39:52,780 --> 00:39:54,900 I believe it was through fire inspections. 478 00:39:55,380 --> 00:39:55,800 They're doing it. 479 00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:59,360 We've actually identified a number of businesses in town 480 00:39:59,360 --> 00:39:59,960 that have moved in. 481 00:40:13,820 --> 00:40:29,180 We're actually internally starting to look at how we can make improvements to that process because he's discovered the number of them. So we want to start notifying landlords in advance that, you know, hey, you need to make sure your people are getting business licenses before they open up in your buildings and maybe opposing us. 482 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,140 there's a number of that we've discovered personally. 483 00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:38,340 All right, so that item will remain at first reading. 484 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,640 I'll see if anybody else has any questions. 485 00:40:41,540 --> 00:40:44,260 All right, moving on to business item number four 486 00:40:44,260 --> 00:40:46,200 of the consideration of an ordinance granting 487 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,780 a conditional use for mechanical repair and servicing facility 488 00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:52,220 for trucks in the eye to joint district for G and J services. 489 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,880 This item is also up for first read. 490 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,640 Trustee Brockman and Ms. Engle. 491 00:40:57,340 --> 00:40:58,200 Thank you again, Mayor. 492 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:03,980 We did have a very lengthy discussion at Planning and Zoning on this agenda item. 493 00:41:05,020 --> 00:41:13,180 We held public caring, no one spoke from the public and comes here with a 5-0 vote as 494 00:41:13,180 --> 00:41:13,460 well. 495 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:21,140 I think the most important thing to come out of it is the 17 conditions that Natalie set 496 00:41:21,140 --> 00:41:21,420 up. 497 00:41:23,540 --> 00:41:25,940 And why don't you elaborate on that a little bit? 498 00:41:26,340 --> 00:41:26,980 Natalie, please. 499 00:41:27,740 --> 00:41:28,180 Sure. 500 00:41:29,380 --> 00:41:33,280 So this property is at $2.15 a.m. and it's on the south side of A.m. 501 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,200 and it's backs up to shoreward park. 502 00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:40,880 This is another example of a business that moved in without a permit, so we're playing 503 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:41,660 catch up on it. 504 00:41:41,780 --> 00:41:46,040 But they would like to operate a proper care facility. 505 00:41:46,420 --> 00:41:50,040 They would have a very small number of vehicles on the property. 506 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:55,120 they looked to have we actually started out with talking about three and then 507 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,140 the plan permission suggested we went to four to accommodate a little bit more 508 00:41:59,140 --> 00:42:03,880 business but they have a maximum of four semis on the property at a time two 509 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,820 could be repaired and two could be out in the parking lot everything would be done 510 00:42:07,820 --> 00:42:12,560 inside they won't have any truck drop-up or pick up without staff on site so if 511 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,180 somebody breaks down in the middle of the night they won't be able to just drop the 512 00:42:15,180 --> 00:42:17,780 truck there they have to actually make an arrangement to meet with the 513 00:42:17,780 --> 00:42:21,280 property owner during business hours or the business owner during business hours. 514 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,720 And you know vehicles will be left outside, they won't be at your storage or anything like 515 00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:27,300 that. 516 00:42:29,180 --> 00:42:31,320 Doesn't seem that my slide is working very well. 517 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:31,740 Oh, sorry. 518 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,520 I'm just going to get right to that. 519 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:36,080 Sorry about that. 520 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,680 I'm having technology problems today. 521 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:43,420 So they would enter the building, the employees would enter the building where you see the green 522 00:42:43,420 --> 00:42:49,940 dot marked employee entrance. They would have tool storage and repairs inside the building. 523 00:42:50,580 --> 00:42:57,900 Most of the trucks would enter from the east side with occasional entries from the north side entrance, 524 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:03,140 but that would be much less frequent. They'd have room for approximately four employees to park there, 525 00:43:03,140 --> 00:43:09,160 which should be adequate to cover what they need. And then two truck parking spaces outside. 526 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:14,800 they've indicated to us that their longest vehicle is about 29 feet so we'd have 527 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:19,640 a you know them strikeout spaces that are 33 feet deep and 12 feet wide. 528 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:22,440 The 529 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:29,740 orange area shows you know where they have there's they have a front half the 530 00:43:29,740 --> 00:43:34,160 building and there's other units that have rear half of the building everything 531 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:38,460 would be stored inside. They would not really be having many customers come 532 00:43:38,460 --> 00:43:42,380 inside, they wouldn't have anybody in their repair space or anything like that. 533 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:48,780 No cargo containers, tablets, trailers, outbuildings on a property, and they would be putting up 534 00:43:48,780 --> 00:43:54,340 a six-foot tall privacy fence along the rear property line where the bus, the shoreward 535 00:43:54,340 --> 00:43:54,600 park. 536 00:43:55,220 --> 00:43:58,580 It wouldn't be a chain link fence, it would have to be something like masonrywood or vinyl 537 00:43:58,580 --> 00:44:00,100 that provides full screening. 538 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,600 They would agree to get a fence permit for that. 539 00:44:04,060 --> 00:44:07,840 They did start operating and we noticed if we approached them and said, hey, you've got 540 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:08,620 to recommend for a permit. 541 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,360 At that point, they were doing a little bit larger business 542 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:12,500 than it just paid edge. 543 00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:14,920 These are some pictures that just in full disclosure. 544 00:44:16,940 --> 00:44:19,340 And the conditions, we basically went through them all 545 00:44:19,340 --> 00:44:20,260 because they're listed there. 546 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,020 I'm happy to elaborate on any of them. 547 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,660 This was one where they did move out. 548 00:44:26,860 --> 00:44:29,460 When we told them they could not operate, they moved out, 549 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,300 and they came back to the conditionally used permit 550 00:44:31,300 --> 00:44:32,240 to ask your permission. 551 00:44:33,140 --> 00:44:34,800 We suggested they find other properties 552 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,620 because we weren't sure it would work here, 553 00:44:36,620 --> 00:44:40,100 but they they seem to have figured out how to reduce the size of their business and make it work. 554 00:44:40,340 --> 00:44:42,660 So, the Flank Emission does recommend in favor. 555 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,300 And this back in this property backs up to the park is that correct? 556 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,800 And then, who's in the, if they're only taken less than half of the building, 557 00:44:54,700 --> 00:44:57,020 do we know who's occupying the other half of the building? 558 00:44:57,420 --> 00:44:59,920 I believe it's a company that rents out. 559 00:45:00,180 --> 00:45:15,820 House, castles, and carnival games, inflatable carnival games, and things like that for events. They're essentially using it as their warehouse. And they may also be another business, I want to say. I'm not sure if it moved out, but I think it was like a kitchen cap in a true business. 560 00:45:19,530 --> 00:45:21,950 Natalie, just a question. 561 00:45:24,780 --> 00:45:32,580 Claire, find it for me. How long has this been going on? And people just moving into buildings without business licenses? 562 00:45:32,580 --> 00:45:39,560 I know, you know, in paying rent and running a business and we have no clue. 563 00:45:40,660 --> 00:45:45,960 You know, on some businesses like this one where trucks showed up, we noticed it right 564 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,080 away and contacted them, but I do discover a lot. 565 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,740 My question was, oh, how long has this been going on? 566 00:45:51,740 --> 00:45:52,520 I think forever. 567 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,540 I mean, I know when I started, we had a whole list because there was a fire marshal who had 568 00:45:56,540 --> 00:45:59,880 gone through and done all the infections and discovered a number. 569 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:04,960 So when I first started back in 2019, we had a number of conditional use permits we had to go through. 570 00:46:05,460 --> 00:46:09,360 It seems that every time somebody knew those through and does the fire inspections they discovered them. 571 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,280 But it's a real problem because we're playing catch-up, right? 572 00:46:12,460 --> 00:46:14,940 They're not situations where they're necessarily permitted. 573 00:46:15,820 --> 00:46:18,420 We're having to come forward to you and ask for permission later. 574 00:46:19,180 --> 00:46:23,020 So that's why we really want to kind of get ahead of this and send us notices and demands. 575 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,700 Give us a round number. 576 00:46:26,380 --> 00:46:27,660 How many are out there? 577 00:46:27,660 --> 00:46:31,660 If we don't have all the occupations, I would say 15. 578 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:33,120 Oh, money? 579 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:34,340 Probably 15. 580 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:40,480 And a lot of the ones that we find are things like an accountant who leased an office in 581 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,220 an office building or stuff like that. 582 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:47,480 There are people who don't think they need permits, but there are good numbers. 583 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:55,480 The other thing we do is the state sends us a list monthly of all the businesses who have filed for revenue 584 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,300 We flesh them through taxes and we do contact each of them and ask them a phone for licenses 585 00:46:59,300 --> 00:47:01,180 and that's how we discover a number of these two. 586 00:47:01,700 --> 00:47:03,140 They're doing any retail sales. 587 00:47:05,530 --> 00:47:07,290 Like they're coming across the border. 588 00:47:07,650 --> 00:47:08,130 I know. 589 00:47:09,110 --> 00:47:09,610 It's frustrating. 590 00:47:10,670 --> 00:47:16,230 And so we've never done it before but we want to start to, you know, tell the property owners. 591 00:47:16,410 --> 00:47:18,110 Look, you can't let this happen. 592 00:47:18,270 --> 00:47:21,790 You have to have people come in first and we need to, you know, we need to stick. 593 00:47:21,910 --> 00:47:22,770 We need a decent fine. 594 00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:29,690 Yeah, I mean, there ought to be some kind of punishment for people just coming in, squatting 595 00:47:29,690 --> 00:47:35,470 in a building, and starting a business, no sign, no anything, right? 596 00:47:35,650 --> 00:47:36,730 There ought to be something. 597 00:47:37,510 --> 00:47:37,990 I agree. 598 00:47:38,890 --> 00:47:43,510 And sometimes there's such an investment need to get them in there that it's really hard to 599 00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:44,350 kick them out, too, right? 600 00:47:44,550 --> 00:47:46,570 So we need to figure out how to get ahead of them. 601 00:47:49,020 --> 00:47:52,540 Do anything with the people that are leasing the property with them? 602 00:47:52,540 --> 00:47:53,920 and I'll teach you that. 603 00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:56,240 I mean, they both should probably do so. 604 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:57,400 Absolutely. 605 00:47:57,740 --> 00:47:59,940 And right now, we can use our typical ticket structure, 606 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,480 but what we were hoping to do, it's come forward to you, 607 00:48:02,820 --> 00:48:06,440 maybe next month, with a proposal to have specific fines 608 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,500 for people who have businesses operating 609 00:48:08,500 --> 00:48:10,540 in their buildings with our permits and places. 610 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,600 And for them to be hefty enough, that they'll notice. 611 00:48:20,300 --> 00:48:22,220 Would there be, in certain, there? 612 00:48:22,220 --> 00:48:30,400 Yeah, I'm looking at this list from A to Q conditions, not only guarantee that they will 613 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:36,280 buy by all these conditions, we're going to end up in court under some time, or is there 614 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,660 something else we can do in order to prevent that from happening? 615 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:47,280 Unfortunately, the remedy if they, we can obviously issue fines, right, and we can give them 616 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,520 tickets, we can give them tickets daily, but that doesn't always work and sometimes you 617 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,420 and doesn't work. So it's a gamble. 618 00:48:57,670 --> 00:48:59,510 We did actually, in this case we did 619 00:48:59,510 --> 00:49:03,130 recommend that they sit at other sites, but they had already invested in this 620 00:49:03,130 --> 00:49:06,490 one so they wanted to bring it forward to you as a conditionally used to see 621 00:49:06,490 --> 00:49:12,790 what you thought. You know one more question I did. How, when they left, you said 622 00:49:12,790 --> 00:49:18,210 they came back and they decided how they could lower their business in order to 623 00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:23,570 operate here. For some reason from a business sense, it doesn't make sense to 624 00:49:24,090 --> 00:49:30,910 to lower your business. I don't know if it makes sense to you guys but it just doesn't 625 00:49:30,910 --> 00:49:35,250 make sense to me. I think I would go someplace else. The way it was explained at planning 626 00:49:35,250 --> 00:49:40,970 and zoning is that they would have four trucks on site right and as one's done that would 627 00:49:40,970 --> 00:49:45,150 be picked up and then another one would come in. So instead of having like ten on site 628 00:49:45,150 --> 00:49:50,170 or whatever they just have to do for like first and first out. They were trying to make 629 00:49:50,170 --> 00:49:54,510 make it palatable to the village because we had expressed the concerns that we have 630 00:49:54,510 --> 00:49:59,050 about truck repair especially truck repair close to residential and they said you know 631 00:49:59,050 --> 00:49:59,310 Okay. 632 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:13,480 We'll do what we can to make this work in one of their suggestions was to limit the number of trucks. They actually suggested to limit it to three trucks. The plan for this and when they heard it suggested, hey, let's go up, you know, but they go to four just because it gives them a little bit more wiggle room to be compliant. 633 00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:31,950 So as of today, they're not operating. Now, when we told them to stop operations, they did actually stop, which is unusual. And they pulled the permit for the funds. They have not pulled the permit. They don't have permission. But we would have to pull the permit and have the funds installed before they can start operating. 634 00:50:31,950 --> 00:50:31,990 Okay. 635 00:50:38,050 --> 00:50:42,310 It is up for a first rate, so you guys have any questions or concerns? 636 00:50:50,830 --> 00:50:51,310 Any questions? 637 00:50:51,610 --> 00:50:53,810 I'll move it along or what? 638 00:50:55,230 --> 00:50:57,910 Yeah, I don't see why not, okay. 639 00:51:00,010 --> 00:51:06,990 Make a motion to approve an ordinance granting a conditional use for a mechanical repair 640 00:51:07,660 --> 00:51:14,570 and servicing facility for trucks in the I-2 zoning districts for G&J services incorporated 641 00:51:14,570 --> 00:51:20,310 it in the way of the second read. Second. Motion by Trustee Brockman, seconded by Trustee 642 00:51:20,310 --> 00:51:29,550 Babiak. Roll call, please. For item four. Chapman? No. Luciano? No. Self-ridge? No. Amos? No. 643 00:51:30,170 --> 00:51:39,510 Babiak? No. Brockman? No. All right. The condition of use failed on item four. 644 00:51:41,580 --> 00:51:41,840 With 645 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,200 that will move on to business number five. 646 00:51:45,140 --> 00:51:48,360 Just so we're clear for the record, it did not pass. 647 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,600 Correct, and that would be a denial. 648 00:51:50,980 --> 00:51:52,640 Correct, agreed. 649 00:51:57,190 --> 00:51:59,450 All right, business number five is a consideration 650 00:51:59,450 --> 00:52:01,390 of an ordinance granting a major amendment 651 00:52:01,390 --> 00:52:03,810 to a conditionally used for a planned unit development 652 00:52:03,810 --> 00:52:05,150 for short veterinary clinic. 653 00:52:05,510 --> 00:52:07,790 At the short town center, Rusty Ridge Animal Center, 654 00:52:08,170 --> 00:52:09,970 this item is also up for a first read. 655 00:52:10,430 --> 00:52:12,090 Trustee Brockman is Anglican. 656 00:52:12,090 --> 00:52:20,370 Thank you Mayor. We did look at this at our last planning zoning. No one spoke 657 00:52:20,370 --> 00:52:25,690 from the public on this agenda item 50 vote from the commissioners of approval. 658 00:52:26,910 --> 00:52:35,430 And this is gone from a mobile trailer now to a building. So badly you can 659 00:52:35,430 --> 00:52:39,450 fill us in on some of the details. Perfect. So we're all familiar with Rusty 660 00:52:39,450 --> 00:52:44,770 ridge, and I know we did talk a lot about the trailer. It turned out it didn't make sense 661 00:52:44,770 --> 00:52:48,250 to do the trailer because of the way the concrete was poured. There was rebar on the concrete. 662 00:52:48,470 --> 00:52:52,970 It wouldn't have worked out. So they did look into it and were able to come up with a plan 663 00:52:52,970 --> 00:52:58,950 to get a special animal MRI trailer that could be housed in a building. So what they're proposing 664 00:52:58,950 --> 00:53:04,370 now is to do a little building addition. It would be 160 square feet, so 26 feet wide by 665 00:53:04,370 --> 00:53:09,330 32 feet deep, essentially, it would be the MRI room as well as a little bit of storage. 666 00:53:10,310 --> 00:53:14,410 They would make it so that it matched the building to the step possible. 667 00:53:15,050 --> 00:53:20,750 It wouldn't have any windows or doors, but basically where you see the red box, this is 668 00:53:20,750 --> 00:53:23,310 one of the looks like from the outside of the same red side. 669 00:53:24,450 --> 00:53:32,110 The accent and beige side in the roof and pretty much almost the size of the garage that would 670 00:53:32,110 --> 00:53:32,710 go along back. 671 00:53:32,710 --> 00:53:37,790 but it would be the MRI, it would be totally self-contained, they wouldn't have to take animals outside or anything like that. 672 00:53:38,730 --> 00:53:43,730 So as staff, we think that this is a better solution, and we recommend a favor of it. 673 00:53:47,550 --> 00:53:50,190 During planning and zoning, folks, we recommend any comments on this one. 674 00:53:51,270 --> 00:53:57,270 I think everybody was pleasantly surprised, and all good, it looks, and thought it was great ID. 675 00:54:00,210 --> 00:54:06,210 and match it with what we have out of our next agenda and I think it even wouldn't fit in 676 00:54:06,210 --> 00:54:06,950 even better yet. 677 00:54:09,330 --> 00:54:14,130 Yes sir. Does this address like the noise concerns with the trailer because I 678 00:54:14,130 --> 00:54:20,430 think the discussion was the noise wasn't the machine it was the condenser and or the transformer 679 00:54:21,130 --> 00:54:26,190 is that all inside this building as well? It is and they won't they'll be able to run it. What I 680 00:54:26,190 --> 00:54:30,330 understand they'll be able to run it off of their existing transformer is what they've 681 00:54:30,330 --> 00:54:34,330 told us so far. We haven't seen the building plans but at this point it seems like they 682 00:54:34,330 --> 00:54:40,630 can run it off of their existing stuff. It's it's a special that MRI as opposed to the 683 00:54:40,630 --> 00:54:48,290 repurposed human one they have last time. So I guess like is that is that required if we pass 684 00:54:48,290 --> 00:54:53,910 it tonight like all that has to be contained inside this building? Yes they have to meet the site 685 00:54:53,910 --> 00:54:55,970 That's a good one. 686 00:54:56,570 --> 00:54:57,430 I have a quote. 687 00:54:57,870 --> 00:54:59,970 I... is it possible that they're going to... 688 00:55:09,700 --> 00:55:16,840 I would like to find out exactly what the noise level will be and in the other possibilities 689 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:22,420 that can come from this. Obviously, we probably should know what kind of MRI you're putting in. 690 00:55:22,980 --> 00:55:27,980 I mean, there's probably dozens of different varieties. If it's going in a building, 691 00:55:27,980 --> 00:55:32,080 everything else. If it's going into a building, I mean, that's one of their concerns. 692 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:36,300 They heard the board's concern last time regarding noise, so the fact that they can power it 693 00:55:36,300 --> 00:55:39,120 off the existing transformer was one of the reasons they went this route. 694 00:55:39,580 --> 00:55:44,800 No, my point is just that even though it's in a building, there's still things that are 695 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:50,000 hazardous in a building, and I just want to make sure that everything is covered based 696 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:56,820 on what they're doing. I mean, I think the MRI can overheat, and it lets out helium 697 00:55:57,580 --> 00:56:04,040 If they have to be properly funded for debt, I don't know what kind of that would all fall within the building construction component. 698 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,200 Well, yeah, I would want to make sure all that happens. 699 00:56:06,420 --> 00:56:10,740 But we don't review that. That would be on the building department to review that. 700 00:56:11,060 --> 00:56:14,040 You know, if we don't have the building permit, I'm not going to apply and say we do. 701 00:56:14,220 --> 00:56:18,540 We don't have the building permit. They have said that there is no newly admitted from this one. 702 00:56:20,140 --> 00:56:21,640 Obviously, we'll have to confirm that. 703 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:28,420 But in reality the MRI within the veterinary clinic use from a zoning perspective would 704 00:56:28,420 --> 00:56:32,620 be permitted and they'd have to make sure they meet all of our performance standards 705 00:56:32,620 --> 00:56:33,140 encoded. 706 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,200 It's really the building addition that's actually a trigger. 707 00:56:36,540 --> 00:56:39,360 Well, like I said, I would just like to first read it. 708 00:56:39,380 --> 00:56:45,940 I'd like to see what that would be, what the decimal, like something to verify what it 709 00:56:45,940 --> 00:56:46,180 is. 710 00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:50,740 They haven't submitted a permanent earning plan, so you don't even know what it is. 711 00:56:50,740 --> 00:56:57,000 I, you know, we're putting MRI in there, I'm all for it, but I want to make sure that it 712 00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,720 complies with, and it is not going to be anything that's going to be disturbing to the 713 00:57:01,720 --> 00:57:02,020 residents. 714 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,100 They have a 24 hour service now. 715 00:57:05,740 --> 00:57:07,640 You can have someone there at 2 o'clock in the morning. 716 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,020 So, you know, I just like to see what the noise level is going to be. 717 00:57:12,260 --> 00:57:14,000 And I don't think that's much to ask. 718 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:15,840 Okay. 719 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:17,560 Anybody else have any questions? 720 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:21,240 I don't 721 00:57:23,700 --> 00:57:26,520 think Dr. Joe is here to answer that. 722 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:31,660 Okay, leave it in the first read. 723 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:38,560 Okay, so we'll try to get noise clarifications that might emit from the building. 724 00:57:39,140 --> 00:57:40,340 Is that what the clerk might tell you? 725 00:57:40,540 --> 00:57:40,620 Is that what the clerk is looking for? 726 00:57:40,780 --> 00:57:46,360 Well, yeah, make sure the magnet draw is protected by wherever you have to insulate. 727 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:48,800 Well, that'll fall within building, of course. 728 00:57:53,480 --> 00:58:03,880 Okay, now we got that okay, and then item number six would be a discussion of a concept plan for the district at town. 729 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:08,800 So trustee Brock, nearly just go right ahead with that. 730 00:58:09,980 --> 00:58:15,720 So what you see on the screen right now is the 2004 town center preliminary PUD. 731 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:22,180 So they were expecting to build up a retail portion of the tailed center with a couple 732 00:58:22,180 --> 00:58:27,440 of large buildings and several more small pedestrian-oriented buildings. 733 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,080 So the ones that are marked D were essentially the big buildings. 734 00:58:31,060 --> 00:58:37,900 And when we approved Rusty Ridge, we approved the D on the left-hand side as sort of a retail 735 00:58:37,900 --> 00:58:38,440 anchor. 736 00:58:40,220 --> 00:58:44,840 They were, in two back and two back before, they were also expecting to have holes for 737 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:49,900 somebody else like that anchored the site but when the economy class so did that coal 738 00:58:49,900 --> 00:58:57,700 steel. So back in 2018 the village hired ginkgo planning and design and they developed a town 739 00:58:57,700 --> 00:59:01,860 center master plan. They kind of looked at it and said you know maybe there's more retail 740 00:59:01,860 --> 00:59:06,720 than we should have on this property. You know how can we make this work with the town center and 741 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:10,960 they came up with this plan and it's a village plan as opposed to the property plan but they show 742 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:17,960 retail on Jefferson Street and then in which is in red and then in orange it's a mix of multi-handly and townhouses 743 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:26,860 is what they proposed. This is the Ginkgo plan and sort of what it could look like and as well as the type of buildings that they were anticipating. 744 00:59:27,780 --> 00:59:38,520 So we've seen two things happen since this 2004 plan was approved, the Hamptons got approved, and also the district 745 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,940 is getting developed on the other side of the street. 746 00:59:41,260 --> 00:59:44,400 So this is the property that's on the west side of the street, 747 00:59:44,420 --> 00:59:46,380 the north part was sold to the library, 748 00:59:46,620 --> 00:59:49,000 and then the south part is being developed by Dr. Joe. 749 00:59:49,820 --> 00:59:51,320 This is the plan he would like to do. 750 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,460 On the far left is where you see Rusty Ridge, 751 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,440 and then the rescue development he would like to do 752 00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,840 oriented with multiple commercial buildings. 753 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,940 This is oriented in a town center type design, where people can walk along the street front and all the parking behind and there's more of a common gathering space. So I believe this is 12 new buildings he's proposing. And most of them are organized in that rectangle or fashion, which is kind of reminiscent of you think of neighborhood crossings of 95th or maybe set of bridges. That's the type of environment he'd like to create. And he does have one building which is actually the first building he does up by the pond where he would like to do a restaurant. 754 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:37,780 And this is, I believe, an AI-generated version of what he would like to do up against the pond. 755 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:42,280 His thought is to do a two-story restaurant where you'd have dining on both levels, 756 01:00:42,580 --> 01:00:46,820 that would be a grandfather patio, as well as a second-story patio overlooking the pond. 757 01:00:46,820 --> 01:00:48,360 Kind of a boardwalk type deal. 758 01:00:52,130 --> 01:00:52,610 A good view. 759 01:00:53,130 --> 01:00:57,810 He kind of designed it so that it would match the vibe of rescue ridge, 760 01:00:58,150 --> 01:01:00,970 but also the vibe of the Hamptons because they'll be close together. 761 01:01:00,970 --> 01:01:05,470 So it picks up some of the colors from Rusty Ridge, some of the stone elements from across 762 01:01:05,470 --> 01:01:09,170 the street, you know, and yet it's own unique built. 763 01:01:10,150 --> 01:01:13,930 So we just want you to get your suggestions or comments on this. 764 01:01:14,470 --> 01:01:21,090 We think it does a fairly good job of meeting the intent of the town center PUD, but we wanted 765 01:01:21,090 --> 01:01:21,990 to show it to you. 766 01:01:22,550 --> 01:01:24,350 The other thing, so this is the site plan. 767 01:01:24,490 --> 01:01:27,250 The other thing I should have mentioned is they did want to do a drive-through. 768 01:01:27,630 --> 01:01:31,690 We talked to them about, you know, if they were going to propose a drive-through, they should do it in a very 769 01:01:33,860 --> 01:01:38,420 way, you know, like a very calm manner, so it didn't really take a lot of space, and they have proposed a drive, 770 01:01:38,700 --> 01:01:45,740 what a single drive-through on the southeast side of the site, just below that building that faces when it's down. 771 01:01:48,010 --> 01:01:53,470 And it would be similar to maybe like the drive-through, you see it big being, or the Duncan-Donald's on 59, 772 01:01:53,470 --> 01:01:59,090 where it's, you know, not big dual lanes with lots of parking, right, and that is very 773 01:01:59,090 --> 01:02:00,190 standard drive. 774 01:02:01,430 --> 01:02:05,390 So, if you have any questions, I'm happy to relay them back to the property owner, but 775 01:02:05,390 --> 01:02:07,810 we want to see what you think in whether you like the direction. 776 01:02:09,230 --> 01:02:13,750 I think there's a long time coming that the village has been trying to establish for years 777 01:02:13,750 --> 01:02:19,390 and to create that foot traffic area, some sort of a small retail area, foot traffic. 778 01:02:19,570 --> 01:02:21,330 I think it's a great idea. 779 01:02:21,330 --> 01:02:28,370 Yeah, it's been a long time plumbing this ability to have that fourth off to try to create that. It's nice to finally have an investor willing to do it. 780 01:02:28,370 --> 01:02:33,170 Yeah, it's nice. You know, for a long time, the line was kind of held by a speculator, right? 781 01:02:33,290 --> 01:02:39,190 They were waiting to be able to make money on the property, so it's nice to see people who have purchased the property and want to get things done. 782 01:02:39,250 --> 01:02:42,690 And Dr. Joe seems to really appreciate the vision there, so we're excited about that. 783 01:02:43,710 --> 01:02:46,210 And both have thoughts, concerns? 784 01:02:47,190 --> 01:02:52,330 I think the only kind of thing that came out of the planning zoning which isn't the village is they're open to have a 785 01:02:52,790 --> 01:02:55,990 Accelerator and a decelerating way to turn in and out of a 786 01:02:55,990 --> 01:03:05,150 I like the project if like as we can I know the state's hard tough to work with some point 787 01:03:05,150 --> 01:03:10,830 But I think that'll be a good idea because this would bring a lot of people that might draw you we may be able to trigger or that may trigger 788 01:03:10,830 --> 01:03:15,190 a warrant, you know, as different parts of that started continue to develop. And kind 789 01:03:15,190 --> 01:03:20,510 of when I mentioned during planning and zoning, I don't know if the board recognized, we worked 790 01:03:20,510 --> 01:03:26,110 with Representative Walsh and I got lowered the speed limit out here in front. So we got 791 01:03:26,110 --> 01:03:32,810 a 50 reduction, we got the 45 right now. Signs are off. So just as you come from the west 792 01:03:32,810 --> 01:03:38,230 as soon as you cross the tracks, we did get a reduction from 50 to 45 right now. We are 793 01:03:38,230 --> 01:03:42,650 hoping to get to 40, but we did get a baby step and as additional 794 01:03:42,650 --> 01:03:45,350 development comes through here and they believe we can probably get a further 795 01:03:45,350 --> 01:03:52,070 reduction. But a step in the right direction. But to your point, Scott, as a 796 01:03:52,070 --> 01:03:56,210 development like this comes in, we may be able to warrant additional improvements 797 01:03:56,210 --> 01:03:57,130 on 52 as well. 798 01:03:57,170 --> 01:04:00,430 Yeah. So why would every commercial building of the 799 01:04:00,430 --> 01:04:05,150 track study see when we hit those ones? Okay. The way that right in and right 800 01:04:05,150 --> 01:04:10,170 out as a design now that's what has to be tore up as it won't accommodate her. 801 01:04:11,470 --> 01:04:15,670 Yeah and that all makes it that would all like now they kind of mentioned this 802 01:04:15,670 --> 01:04:19,450 different buildings come upon or for approval that have to continue to re-evaluate 803 01:04:19,450 --> 01:04:20,490 all that and so on. 804 01:04:21,830 --> 01:04:26,390 Yeah I wasn't the first staff at getting out to approve something so they kind of 805 01:04:26,390 --> 01:04:27,730 only approved what's minimally required. 806 01:04:29,250 --> 01:04:31,350 Has there been any discussion on time planning? 807 01:04:33,490 --> 01:04:38,250 The thought for Building 12, which is the upper left-hand corner, would be 2027. 808 01:04:38,710 --> 01:04:39,350 That would be the restaurant. 809 01:04:39,730 --> 01:04:40,270 That would be the restaurant. 810 01:04:41,350 --> 01:04:46,490 And I think, you know, it's a smaller restaurant than it appears in this picture, but, you know, 811 01:04:46,550 --> 01:04:52,170 the idea was to do a two-story restaurant that overlooks the pond, but also has that street frontage, so. 812 01:04:55,380 --> 01:04:58,320 Does anybody remember when the library bought that land? 813 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:29,900 I think it was 2010. I think it was 2010. Because that one picture, you showed residential along the lake, and I, and for like me, I don't ever remember residential along the lake, because I thought the library had their, remember the, the grand scheme they had of, you know, the view over the lake. And sorry, I wasn't here at that point. The original, the original plans were 814 01:05:29,900 --> 01:05:33,120 to have restaurants along the front of the... 815 01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:33,300 Right. 816 01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:34,280 First lake. 817 01:05:35,340 --> 01:05:35,360 Right. 818 01:05:35,860 --> 01:05:38,140 That was the original plans, but... 819 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:38,980 Yeah. 820 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:40,100 That's a strange thing. 821 01:05:40,820 --> 01:05:45,780 So technically this 2004 plan that you see on the screen right now is the approved plan. 822 01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,940 The other one that shows the residential on the lake was when the village had done in 823 01:05:50,940 --> 01:05:55,200 2018, because they didn't think that that first plan was viable. 824 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,340 But in reality, we're kind of going back to that for the side of the street. 825 01:05:58,340 --> 01:05:59,760 We're going back to the original plan. 826 01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:01,040 Excellent. 827 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:02,680 Yeah, I'm happy about it. 828 01:06:02,980 --> 01:06:03,620 A lot of building. 829 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,860 And if we get that done, I think it'll be a really nice town 830 01:06:05,860 --> 01:06:08,640 better area, especially connected rights to the park and 831 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:08,880 everything. 832 01:06:11,850 --> 01:06:12,170 All right. 833 01:06:13,230 --> 01:06:16,610 That sounds like you can convey a support back lower than I am on that. 834 01:06:17,950 --> 01:06:20,470 With that, we'll move into trustee comments. 835 01:06:20,830 --> 01:06:21,750 Trustee Ameths. 836 01:06:21,870 --> 01:06:22,450 Thank you. 837 01:06:23,690 --> 01:06:24,350 Trustee Badback. 838 01:06:27,420 --> 01:06:27,860 Thank you. 839 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:28,680 Trustee Brockman. 840 01:06:29,300 --> 01:06:29,900 Thank you, Mayor. 841 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,000 October 7th. 842 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:38,040 is our next planning and zoning and too early for an agenda as of right now. Thank you. 843 01:06:38,700 --> 01:06:39,900 Thank you. Trustee Cha. 844 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,260 No comment. Trustee Luciano. 845 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:47,180 The citizens advisory committee will be meeting the 24th this month. 846 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:52,980 And as always, if anyone's interested getting involved in it, they can contact myself or any 847 01:06:52,980 --> 01:06:56,240 members to the vote on website. That's all I have. 848 01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:57,640 Thank you. And Trustee Stone. 849 01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:58,560 Thank you, Mayor. 850 01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:02,720 you know I keep on seeing in the news about flock cameras both in the 851 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:07,500 national media and local media and chief I was hoping you could maybe provide 852 01:07:07,500 --> 01:07:11,860 some insight I know we've got a lot of them here in Shorewood. Do we have the 853 01:07:11,860 --> 01:07:17,040 right policies and procedures in place for protecting people's privacy in the 854 01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:21,140 village of Shorewood? Like selfishly I know that they do a great deal stopping 855 01:07:21,140 --> 01:07:27,060 crime like I work in the car industry and have recovered several stolen vehicles 856 01:07:27,060 --> 01:07:30,980 do to the flock cameras helping along the way and I just hope that you could maybe elaborate 857 01:07:30,980 --> 01:07:31,580 a little bit. 858 01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,720 But I think it's important that you're bringing this matter up right now. 859 01:07:37,340 --> 01:07:44,220 As you've seen in the news, we have local jurisdictions around us that have had some issues. 860 01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:51,940 I consider today competently knowing that I brought the flock program here in 2021 and 861 01:07:51,940 --> 01:07:58,840 We do have policies in place, and we do have fail safes already moving forward that have 862 01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:05,400 been more proactive than our neighbors' agencies. 863 01:08:06,060 --> 01:08:11,100 So as I sit here today, I can tell you that we have a good program. 864 01:08:12,500 --> 01:08:16,360 We have a good auditing system that we put in place years before. 865 01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:22,080 were installed what they've recently done here within the last six to eight weeks. 866 01:08:22,700 --> 01:08:29,980 We've been very proactive with it, and it's been a true game changer for the police department 867 01:08:29,980 --> 01:08:35,020 since we brought them forward, but I'm open to any questions that anybody at the board 868 01:08:35,020 --> 01:08:37,160 may have concerning these cameras. 869 01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:37,920 Thank you. 870 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:38,700 I answer my question. 871 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:39,160 Thank you. 872 01:08:39,420 --> 01:08:41,120 Anybody else have any questions through the Chief on that? 873 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,040 With that, thank you. 874 01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:45,520 Thank you. 875 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:46,260 Thank you, Chief. 876 01:08:46,260 --> 01:08:51,260 for answering that. With that I do need a motion to go into the executive 877 01:08:51,260 --> 01:08:56,440 session to get to discuss litigation action against affecting on behalf of 878 01:08:56,440 --> 01:08:59,380 that particular body that has been filed and pending for a circuit court 879 01:08:59,380 --> 01:09:03,660 administrative tribunal or public body that finds action is probable or imminent. 880 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:10,360 So motion by Trustee Selfridge, second by Trustee Amos, roll call for 881 01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:11,180 for exact please. 882 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:12,480 Luciano. 883 01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:12,860 Yes. 884 01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:13,860 Self-righteous. 885 01:09:13,860 --> 01:09:14,000 Yes. 886 01:09:14,260 --> 01:09:14,720 Famous. 887 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:14,900 Yes. 888 01:09:15,180 --> 01:09:15,620 Badiac. 889 01:09:15,860 --> 01:09:16,040 Yes. 890 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:16,700 Brockman. 891 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:17,060 Yes. 892 01:09:17,220 --> 01:09:17,640 In check. 893 01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:18,440 Yes. 894 01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:19,260 All right. 895 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,600 We are going to the back for exact. 896 01:19:23,060 --> 01:19:31,980 With that, I would need a motion to end closed session. Motion by Trustee Luciano. Second by Trustee 897 01:19:31,980 --> 01:19:41,800 Babi, April, call, please, to end closed session. Self-ridge. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. 898 01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:48,280 All right. And that would put us back into regular session. With that, we are at the end of our agenda. 899 01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,080 So at that point I would also ask for a motion to adjourn. 900 01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:57,040 So motion by Trustee Amos, second by Trustee Chapman, roll call to adjourn. 901 01:19:57,380 --> 01:19:57,820 Amos? 902 01:19:58,020 --> 01:19:58,200 Yes. 903 01:19:58,400 --> 01:19:58,680 Yes. 904 01:20:00,740 --> 01:20:06,000 Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. All right. We are adjourned.