1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:19,460 And Sam, do you want me to show the agenda? Yeah, I don't, I don't have it. I guess I'm bringing it up on my phone. Let me do that. Can you see it, you guys? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Cool. 2 00:00:22,540 --> 00:00:31,960 It's got a thing over it. It says the meeting has been recorded by the post. Do we click on that? Yeah. Oh, you don't need to because I did. I got it. Okay. 3 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:32,860 All right. 4 00:00:35,470 --> 00:00:38,990 All right. I'll call the meeting to order at what time is it? 5 00:00:40,230 --> 00:00:40,790 Well, I'll stay. 6 00:00:42,170 --> 00:00:42,350 Yeah. 7 00:00:43,430 --> 00:00:45,650 Seven out of two. Seven out of two. 8 00:00:46,070 --> 00:00:47,290 What's there is it? 9 00:00:47,410 --> 00:01:04,530 The roll call with that Chris Sarah on June, man, Kathy and person and Marty's going to join us via phone. You said that's correct, Sam. And he'll call my friend. 10 00:01:04,530 --> 00:01:12,750 phone and I'll put him on speaker calls. Okay. We have a motion to approve the agenda. 11 00:01:14,550 --> 00:01:24,310 I moved to the agenda. Okay. All right. Kathy moves. Chris seconds. Do we consider this a 12 00:01:24,310 --> 00:01:28,050 quorum? Yes. Four of us including me. I 13 00:01:31,180 --> 00:01:35,720 believe so. I think so and Marty will hear momentarily soon. 14 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:36,720 We'll have more. 15 00:01:37,300 --> 00:01:37,480 Okay. 16 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,440 That was a question, Sharon. 17 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:45,960 I talked about earlier was, if I count towards a quorum or not, because I know four is a 18 00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:46,360 quorum. 19 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,900 I just don't know if you can't the mare or not. 20 00:01:49,380 --> 00:01:51,020 It seems to me like I read you didn't. 21 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:52,280 You don't, do you, Chris? 22 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,500 It seems like I read somewhere. 23 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,220 I, I'm not 100 percent. 24 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,340 I feel like actually we need Marty to have a quorum at the end of the day. 25 00:02:03,340 --> 00:02:19,800 Yeah, yeah, I think that's right. And so Marty, I can give him a call and see if I can get him online. But you guys have, I'm realizing Sam, this isn't earlier version of the agenda. So, um, I would say if I, I'll say if I can get the 26 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,480 latest version up here. 27 00:02:27,580 --> 00:02:30,620 I think you remember something about you, the tiebreaker, right? 28 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:34,620 Well, he is the typewriter, that's correct. 29 00:02:35,220 --> 00:02:37,840 Yes, so could he really be part of the quorum if he was a typewriter? 30 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:46,600 Well, I think officially by the town charter, the mayor has about and I've just 31 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,000 and I think half the mayor has done the same. 32 00:02:49,580 --> 00:02:51,020 I don't think there's a time. 33 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:56,140 I think in our town charter, I am considered a voting member of the board. 34 00:02:56,580 --> 00:02:58,040 You guys, Marty's on the line. 35 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:12,740 are good okay do you vote to do you vote to approve the agenda can you hear him yeah you said you 36 00:03:12,740 --> 00:03:33,140 better do we will call you Marty when Cindy gets here okay question what the 37 00:03:33,140 --> 00:03:39,000 question is called. Okay, okay. Okay, so I'll just call me for the book because I'm from 38 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:45,540 the other things here. This is even closer to the show. Sounds good. Okay. All right, thank you, ma'am. 39 00:03:46,220 --> 00:03:53,620 Pucculator. Cindy's. Great. Back up and on our door. 40 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:02,480 Cindy, are you? Cindy here. Great. Hey, 41 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:10,880 Okay, Sam, we do have bills for approval, UNI signed them, but we should probably run through the list. 42 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,900 Did Sammy provided us with a list? 43 00:04:15,620 --> 00:04:17,340 Did everybody get a copy of that list? 44 00:04:20,190 --> 00:04:20,470 Yes. 45 00:04:21,750 --> 00:04:22,070 Okay. 46 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,020 Mickey just sent me a text trying to get it into the meeting. 47 00:04:29,580 --> 00:04:30,240 Oh, okay. 48 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:31,460 I'll check. 49 00:04:32,260 --> 00:04:34,660 Does he have this zoom link? 50 00:04:35,020 --> 00:04:35,720 Yes, he does. 51 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,500 I don't think Marty's coming in there if you want the chair. 52 00:04:44,340 --> 00:04:46,240 I hear a motion to approve the bill. 53 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:48,860 I moved to approve the bills. 54 00:04:49,660 --> 00:04:51,240 That's so explained by Tammy. 55 00:04:53,830 --> 00:04:55,290 Yeah, they moved to approve the bills. 56 00:04:55,410 --> 00:04:56,390 Chris, did you check it? 57 00:04:57,250 --> 00:04:57,410 Yes. 58 00:04:58,510 --> 00:04:59,850 Okay. All in favor? 59 00:05:00,530 --> 00:05:00,790 Aye. 60 00:05:01,670 --> 00:05:01,930 Aye. 61 00:05:03,290 --> 00:05:03,770 Aye. 62 00:05:05,830 --> 00:05:09,890 already. Okay. Um, 63 00:05:12,310 --> 00:05:19,250 we have any public comment of if I not get a no public care. Yeah. She's public. 64 00:05:23,430 --> 00:05:29,310 Okay. Edmund, the marriage report. I really don't have anything to report right now. Town clerk. 65 00:05:30,270 --> 00:05:34,750 Well, America has had one thing to report. Everybody have a married Christmas. 66 00:05:35,930 --> 00:05:37,450 Thanks, Sam, you too. 67 00:05:40,350 --> 00:05:44,310 Town clerk update, I guess we don't have because Tammy's not on. 68 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,180 Rotten Bridge Department update. Did Mickey make it on? 69 00:05:54,280 --> 00:05:54,680 Yes. 70 00:05:56,980 --> 00:06:01,460 Mickey, I've got an update for you. I was going to call you, but since you're on here, 71 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,520 I will talk to you about it now for just a second. 72 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:07,200 are you there? 73 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:13,320 Mickey, 74 00:06:19,980 --> 00:06:23,780 can you hear me? I can't hear you. 75 00:06:36,790 --> 00:06:37,690 Can you hear 76 00:06:44,570 --> 00:06:48,770 me now? Yeah, there we go. 77 00:06:49,190 --> 00:06:54,950 There we go. All right. Okay, before you give your update, I've got an update for you. Like I said, I was going 78 00:06:54,950 --> 00:06:58,990 to call you earlier and I've been on the train all day and I haven't had a chance. 79 00:07:06,050 --> 00:07:06,890 I got a call 80 00:07:06,890 --> 00:07:10,690 They are concerned that if we don't have 81 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,050 the plans for the bridge, 82 00:07:15,530 --> 00:07:18,060 find out by an engineer that 83 00:07:19,430 --> 00:07:20,560 sometime in the future, 84 00:07:21,020 --> 00:07:23,900 somebody might be able to come back on the town 85 00:07:24,550 --> 00:07:27,180 or him or whatever. 86 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:28,640 Right, great. 87 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,580 He's suggesting that we get an engineer 88 00:07:32,580 --> 00:07:34,440 to look at the plans. 89 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:40,020 My, my first thought would be Craig Abrahamson. 90 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:52,780 Junior mentioned the Army Corps of Engineers, because he says he thinks they've got authority over the creek. 91 00:07:54,220 --> 00:07:55,340 Well, they do. 92 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:07,820 So can you put a little time into researching that and see if Craig would be a viable engineer or if we have to go through the Corps of Engineers. 93 00:08:08,820 --> 00:08:09,400 Yes. 94 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,820 So I talked to junior today. 95 00:08:12,820 --> 00:08:19,360 If you want, we can finish this a little bit later on in the meeting. 96 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,980 We got a review decisions on the bridge. 97 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,780 I got the bids printed out for you guys. 98 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,180 You guys want to talk about it now or do you want to talk about it later? 99 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,640 Well, I think we took that off the agenda didn't we, sure? 100 00:08:34,900 --> 00:08:39,240 Yeah, we did and Mickey, that's why I told you you didn't have to attend. 101 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:45,480 Oh, okay. Yeah, and Sam plus the updated agenda. I'm sorry. 102 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,900 No, you're fine. Let's talk about a little bit under your, your run bridge update. 103 00:08:51,780 --> 00:08:56,900 Definitely. So I talked to junior today about it actually. And since he brought up the whole 104 00:08:56,900 --> 00:09:05,580 engineering aspect, I do agree with him 100%. And if we're going to talk to Abrahamson for 105 00:09:05,580 --> 00:09:12,440 engineering the bridge. Maybe we could talk to him about engineering the plans for the town shop 106 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:18,500 and maybe get a deal, you know, kind of like a two-for-one and get it all taken care of from one shot. 107 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:27,300 When I talk to Abrahamson, I can clarify with him if we need to get the Army Corps of Engineers involved. 108 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:34,620 The last time I did any work in the creek, which was many years ago, the only reason we had to get the 109 00:09:34,620 --> 00:09:40,620 Army Corps of Engineers involved is because we had equipment in the water. I don't believe we're 110 00:09:40,620 --> 00:09:46,080 going to have equipment in the water doing the bridge project. But like junior brought up, it could 111 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:52,240 be a concern that they might be concerning over 50 years down the road of flood comes down, 112 00:09:52,420 --> 00:10:01,100 clear creek takes that embattment pushes it down and causes mass havoc downstream. So yeah, I think 113 00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:03,940 I think we should definitely get an engineered for sure. 114 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,020 Yeah, I think that's a good idea. 115 00:10:08,420 --> 00:10:10,580 I agree with what junior had to say too. 116 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,660 And then once we get a set of engineered plans, 117 00:10:13,660 --> 00:10:18,860 we're gonna have to ask both parties to resubmit bids. 118 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:20,080 Right. 119 00:10:20,860 --> 00:10:23,360 Based on, based on the engineered plans. 120 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:24,580 Okay. 121 00:10:25,500 --> 00:10:29,300 You think you can get a hold of Abrahamson 122 00:10:29,300 --> 00:10:36,180 between now and the next board meeting and the second week of January and have an update 123 00:10:36,180 --> 00:10:36,820 for us then. 124 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:37,640 Yep. 125 00:10:38,500 --> 00:10:38,920 Okay. 126 00:10:39,860 --> 00:10:40,380 Definitely. 127 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:47,700 If you guys want, can I go ahead and ask how much you would charge to engineer the plans 128 00:10:47,700 --> 00:10:48,260 for the shop? 129 00:10:49,060 --> 00:10:49,300 Yeah. 130 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:50,620 Go ahead and get a quote on that. 131 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:51,520 Okay. 132 00:10:51,700 --> 00:10:51,820 Yeah. 133 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:58,860 And Mickey, get a quote on paper, not a verbal, so that we can do something over it. 134 00:10:58,860 --> 00:11:01,820 Yeah, I'll have somebody email over to me. 135 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:03,140 Great. 136 00:11:05,380 --> 00:11:05,800 Perfect. 137 00:11:06,740 --> 00:11:06,960 Okay. 138 00:11:07,140 --> 00:11:08,120 Did we add it? 139 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,820 I have just no plan going on. 140 00:11:09,860 --> 00:11:11,000 Plowns doing great. 141 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,580 Everybody seems to be happy. 142 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:18,960 Hopefully it snows a little bit more this next storm instead of being so then cold. 143 00:11:19,980 --> 00:11:23,460 We did have one scare over the weekend. 144 00:11:23,460 --> 00:11:31,040 And the pressure meter for the water main there at Town Hall dropped to zero at about 145 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:36,420 one o'clock in the morning on Saturday and Tim Hammett's house froze at the same time. 146 00:11:36,420 --> 00:11:39,640 So John and I thought we might have a mainline freeze but we don't. 147 00:11:39,940 --> 00:11:45,200 It was just a false alarm from the meter there in Town Hall. 148 00:11:51,880 --> 00:12:02,040 I started my service of videos. I got three of them completed already. I started my fourth one and I'm working on getting the rest of these bits put together. 149 00:12:03,660 --> 00:12:11,700 And like you said, since we're going to get these plans engineered, I'll go ahead and get some new bits from these guys as soon as we get everything squared away with Abrahamson. 150 00:12:11,700 --> 00:12:25,300 Okay. Okay. Do you get the text from the water system when something's? Yeah. All right. I get that stuff. 151 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:40,460 All right. That's all I got. I get a quick personal question for you. You know, somebody I believe, probably up on Mountain Street, name Janet last initial M. 152 00:12:41,140 --> 00:12:47,420 Janet Miller, I believe so. I know of her. I don't think I know her personally. 153 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,880 You know where she live? No. 154 00:12:52,380 --> 00:12:53,940 I had 155 00:12:56,050 --> 00:12:59,230 to complain at the railroad from her to head. 156 00:13:00,810 --> 00:13:05,310 What kind of complaint? I was out with the locomotive too early this morning. 157 00:13:09,590 --> 00:13:18,970 Oh, well. Yeah. All right. So I'm. If you guys don't need anything else for me, am I 158 00:13:18,970 --> 00:13:26,650 going to hop off? Yeah. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. I will talk to you guys next 159 00:13:26,650 --> 00:13:30,470 week. All right, have a good night. Good night. Thanks you too. 160 00:13:33,460 --> 00:13:33,960 Okay. 161 00:13:36,350 --> 00:13:39,450 So long mountain pork. Okay. 162 00:13:40,850 --> 00:13:48,470 I'm first of all, I need to very, is somebody taking the notes of this mat meeting? Cindy, 163 00:13:48,510 --> 00:13:56,250 we are being recorded. Nobody is taking notes. Tammy will summarize when she listens to the recording. 164 00:13:56,250 --> 00:14:02,530 Okay, I went good because there are a couple of things that should get recorded someplace 165 00:14:03,250 --> 00:14:04,630 in all of this. 166 00:14:05,370 --> 00:14:08,970 First, I have to say thank you very much to your mayor. 167 00:14:09,850 --> 00:14:17,030 Thank you very, very much for expressing some concerns at our last meeting, 168 00:14:17,410 --> 00:14:24,350 because what it caused me to do was to, especially about the environmental study, 169 00:14:25,870 --> 00:14:30,130 Because I had been unwilling to enter the environmental study 170 00:14:30,130 --> 00:14:32,370 until we knew we had enough money to buy a mountain. 171 00:14:32,610 --> 00:14:34,150 There's no sense in spending on it. 172 00:14:35,030 --> 00:14:38,250 But I thought when we got the beginning of this month 173 00:14:38,250 --> 00:14:41,450 when we knew we were going to have enough money to buy the mountain, 174 00:14:42,150 --> 00:14:46,770 I thought to myself, well, we can do the study right after we purchased it. 175 00:14:47,090 --> 00:14:50,410 But your conversation led me to contact 176 00:14:50,410 --> 00:14:54,770 and I'd like this name to show up in the minutes. 177 00:14:55,050 --> 00:14:59,870 I contacted Rebecca Almond from Ireland's shape. 178 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:28,180 She is an environmental attorney. She actually is contracted to the county relative to I-70 issues. She happens to be the pro by pro bono attorney or the Colorado Historical Foundation, who will be holding our easement. And so Cindy Nasky there had said that, you know, you can use Becky. And it goes on their pro bono. So it is not. 179 00:15:29,100 --> 00:15:32,160 It's not something that is any expense to the town. 180 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:39,420 And I explained our situation to Becky and she said, I also have known her for 10 years 181 00:15:39,420 --> 00:15:47,820 at this point, but she said, Whoops, you have to have your phase one done before your name 182 00:15:47,820 --> 00:15:49,060 goes on the title. 183 00:15:49,060 --> 00:16:00,160 and, whoa, yeah, that sort of changed, that was last Friday night, our late Friday afternoon, 184 00:16:01,020 --> 00:16:08,120 because what you're after, and nobody's supposed to play around with these initials, okay, 185 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:18,780 is a BFP, which is a bona fide perspective purchaser. And if you have filed with 186 00:16:18,780 --> 00:16:27,060 Circular with the federal government, to be a bona fide perspective purchaser and you gain 187 00:16:27,060 --> 00:16:34,820 that BFP status, it protects you from liability on the federal and state level. 188 00:16:34,820 --> 00:16:41,020 And she's careful to tell me that nobody ever protects you from an individual, you know, 189 00:16:41,740 --> 00:16:46,400 certs it doesn't protect you from somebody who trips on your sidewalk choosing to try to 190 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:53,120 sue the town. Nobody ever protects you against any, you know, all of that. But it protects you 191 00:16:53,120 --> 00:17:01,380 on the larger level of the EPA coming along or the state coming along. It gives you that protection. 192 00:17:01,380 --> 00:17:04,060 and you see the Colorado Historical Foundation, 193 00:17:04,060 --> 00:17:07,760 while they're holding a conservation easement, 194 00:17:08,060 --> 00:17:10,960 that's also considered a property thing. 195 00:17:11,220 --> 00:17:15,180 So they also want to have that protection. 196 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,940 So I discussed with Becky because we have a closing date 197 00:17:19,940 --> 00:17:23,040 that at this point is at the end of January. 198 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,120 I discussed with Becky, we had received three estimates 199 00:17:28,120 --> 00:17:36,920 and I would like the the notes to reflect the three estimates back in February we being open space 200 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:49,660 commission and me and by half of the town had gone to ERO resources to quantum and to tetra tech 201 00:17:49,660 --> 00:17:54,540 And it explained the price for estimates on doing a phase one. 202 00:17:55,300 --> 00:18:00,760 The estimates came back, the euro resources said, sure, they could take a lift and do 203 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:06,180 an estimate to do a survey for $7,000. 204 00:18:09,580 --> 00:18:17,820 Quonsum came back at 23,400 Tetra Tech came back at 28,000. 205 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:29,320 Quite frankly, ERO resources, it wasn't the kind of a survey we would have needed to get 206 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:29,820 to. 207 00:18:30,100 --> 00:18:36,680 The fact that the others came in our guests, we were somewhere between $25,000 and $30,000. 208 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,340 That was our guess up front. 209 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,200 So when somebody looks at you and says $7,000, 210 00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:44,320 they're not doing the thing you need them to do. 211 00:18:44,860 --> 00:18:46,820 So I told Becky those three. 212 00:18:47,060 --> 00:18:51,020 Now, the gentleman who had done quantum's estimate 213 00:18:51,020 --> 00:18:53,360 is a man by the name of Steve Hoffman. 214 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,860 Since he made that estimate, 215 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,420 he has moved firms from quantum 216 00:19:00,420 --> 00:19:02,900 to a firm called Iron Woman. 217 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:04,760 Iron Woman Construction. 218 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,580 Well, Iron Woman was the owner's great-grandmother. 219 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:12,080 She was a whole blooded indigenous powerful lady, 220 00:19:12,180 --> 00:19:15,920 and so he named his corporation after his great-grandmother. 221 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,880 Well, Iron Woman has done a lot of work 222 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,680 up in the Waldorf Basin, led by Steve Hoffman. 223 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:28,180 So Becky's suggestion to me was that Steve knows the territory 224 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,700 and that even though he's gone to a different firm, 225 00:19:32,700 --> 00:19:41,340 that term also does these studies. I mean, that's, and that I should contact him. I did contact him. 226 00:19:41,380 --> 00:19:46,940 He would be willing to stay with his estimated price. Ironwood woman would be willing to stay 227 00:19:46,940 --> 00:19:57,700 with that price of 23, 4 to do a complete phase one for the purpose of qualifying the town for a 228 00:19:57,700 --> 00:20:00,640 the FPP. 229 00:20:02,700 --> 00:20:08,460 I think that that's what we need to and want to do. I asked him whether it's possible 230 00:20:08,460 --> 00:20:15,160 to do that in the winter time and he said yes actually it is because so much of it is database 231 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:22,560 research. He will research every one of those to pick up the history of the level of mining that took 232 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:28,960 place. I mean, and this is paperwork. And what kind of work division of 233 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:33,460 reclamation mining safety has done on it? What kind of reports the EPA might 234 00:20:33,460 --> 00:20:38,860 have? He'll gather all of the paperwork. And he said, then what they will plan 235 00:20:38,860 --> 00:20:43,640 to do, he said, you know, it's south facing. They may be able to get up to some of 236 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:50,240 it. But they flight drones. And he will undoubtedly be out here by drones. And he 237 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,380 He said, yes, he could. 238 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:57,380 He understood the situation and he understood that we had a private owner and he understood 239 00:20:57,380 --> 00:20:59,580 that it needed to be done by the end of January. 240 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:07,500 And yes, if he could get started immediately, he could get that accomplished. 241 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,020 So retaining money or something? 242 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,780 Does he like a retainer or something like that? 243 00:21:12,780 --> 00:21:13,440 He likes contracts. 244 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:23,380 and I have a contract here, the contract I believe was sent out to you. Sarah was sent out to everybody? 245 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,420 It was. Okay. Yes, I received it. 246 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:35,280 I think it's filled up on the screen if you want me to. Yeah, it's a professional services agreement. It's pretty standard kind of thing. 247 00:21:35,420 --> 00:21:42,760 It's from Iron Woman Construction Environmental Services and Steve Hoffman would be the lead person. 248 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:53,840 It's a lump-sum compensation, and the reason it's a lump-sum compensation is because, 249 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,520 quite frankly, he probably couldn't get it done for quite this, but what he's saying 250 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:04,220 is that he did this last February for another firm, and he didn't bid it. 251 00:22:04,260 --> 00:22:07,000 He estimated it, and he will stick with that estimation. 252 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:16,860 In my opinion, and that of our now pro bono attorney Becky, this is a very fair, and the 253 00:22:16,860 --> 00:22:23,080 other major firm, Tetra Tech is huge, and when they came in at 20, I mean, we obviously 254 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,060 are in range of this, this is the way this needs to do. 255 00:22:27,620 --> 00:22:36,400 So I am recommending that the town of Silverblum sign the contract with Iron Woman construction 256 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:44,260 to proceed with the phase one, it says the phase one, EA, from Mindy Fine Properties, 257 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:53,360 located near Silverbone, per Colorado AST, and the standard E2247-16, that's the standard 258 00:22:53,360 --> 00:23:03,400 that leads you to a BFPP and because that's what we want as a result of this because that's 259 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,380 Okay, that's the liability protection, Cindy. 260 00:23:06,500 --> 00:23:07,460 We're looking for Sam. 261 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,420 I mean, and I apologize. 262 00:23:10,820 --> 00:23:12,760 I misunderstood the directive. 263 00:23:12,940 --> 00:23:16,280 I thought it didn't matter, but you did it before or after. 264 00:23:17,140 --> 00:23:18,320 Well, I'm going to tell us. 265 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:23,620 And I'm so glad you brought it up because I, yeah, all right. 266 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,160 And you guys, I've got Marty on the line to, for when we're calling a vote. 267 00:23:28,940 --> 00:23:34,700 Okay, okay, I have a question on a comment. 268 00:23:36,180 --> 00:23:39,280 Do you say a phase one? Is there more phases? 269 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:50,400 There can be. If the phase one determines that on a particular site, there should be a phase two, then they recommend that. 270 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,000 Okay. 271 00:23:51,620 --> 00:23:53,780 But most of the time, no. 272 00:23:54,340 --> 00:23:54,640 Okay. 273 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:56,560 All right. 274 00:23:56,860 --> 00:24:00,760 And we don't have anything that's dashing out acid water. 275 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,160 I mean, we don't. 276 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:11,240 Yes, so there's no reason to go into a phase one feeling that you're going to end up with a phase two. 277 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:12,120 Okay. 278 00:24:13,340 --> 00:24:19,180 And my comment is, well, vote on this tonight. 279 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:28,240 But before I put my signature on that, I'd like to get Joe's approval or the town attorney just have a read it over. 280 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:35,500 She should be able to do that fairly quickly, so I can probably get it signed Monday. 281 00:24:36,500 --> 00:24:36,700 We see. 282 00:24:38,300 --> 00:24:38,980 Everybody says. 283 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:39,560 Right. 284 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:40,420 You want it. 285 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,000 The rest of the world gets make cases. 286 00:24:43,500 --> 00:24:44,080 You don't. 287 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:44,580 All right. 288 00:24:44,940 --> 00:24:45,880 Do you have a problem with that? 289 00:24:46,220 --> 00:24:48,440 No, I don't have a problem with that. 290 00:24:48,660 --> 00:24:49,200 You know, 291 00:24:49,380 --> 00:24:50,620 And it's going to affect our timeline. 292 00:24:50,620 --> 00:24:52,000 If we wait till the end to do it. 293 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,560 Well, quite honestly, the man's gathering information as we speak because the, 294 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:04,880 because he is. Okay. I don't anticipate there being a problem, but I just have like to have 295 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:12,320 the town and turn it into the suburbs before I find it. Still called me. Also, if I still called 296 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:19,660 me right before I called Becky Emman and said because you were at talks with her. Right. And she said, 297 00:25:19,660 --> 00:25:26,200 you know, and I gave her my rash now for the timing. But after I hung up from that, that was when I 298 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:32,000 picked up a song to call Becky and thought, I better check this out, I better double 299 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:39,040 check myself here. And so, so yes, I will, I'll be happy to call Cheryl back, but I 300 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,620 think that she's not going to be reachable to Tuesday. 301 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,420 Right. We've got Sarah, we've got an electronic copy of this, right? 302 00:25:46,380 --> 00:25:53,640 But yes, I just know we can email the Joe to have her look over. 303 00:25:53,640 --> 00:26:00,120 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I thought I was sharing my screen, but evidently I wasn't. 304 00:26:01,260 --> 00:26:13,860 But I'm going to send a message to Joe too, because I promised I would get back to her. So I'm just going to send her an email and explain what I have found out from from environmental counsel. 305 00:26:15,020 --> 00:26:24,060 And because she said, Joe said to me quite frankly, she doesn't have a news background in environmental law. 306 00:26:25,820 --> 00:26:29,140 No, you have to, is so technical. 307 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:38,020 And so I told her and I didn't, I shouldn't have written back to her this week, but this got a little, yeah. 308 00:26:38,020 --> 00:26:44,020 Okay, Cheryl, would you mind emailing that to Joe and asking her to look it over real quick? 309 00:26:45,580 --> 00:26:48,640 Sure, and Sam, I'll copy you and Cindy, how about? 310 00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:49,780 Okay. 311 00:26:50,260 --> 00:26:53,040 Okay, and I'm going to write to her also, Sarah. 312 00:26:53,180 --> 00:27:00,800 And I'll probably write to her in the morning to give a little background because I told her I wasn't worried about it. 313 00:27:01,060 --> 00:27:02,920 And then I hung up the phone and decided I was. 314 00:27:03,820 --> 00:27:08,960 Okay. Okay. Okay. And and I'll see about. Okay. I think I'll be sure that was just 315 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:16,700 said. That's good. So should I might we be able to move on this fairly soon and and 316 00:27:16,700 --> 00:27:22,280 because I'm inclined to do so and I will do that Sam and Cindy understand you'll follow 317 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:29,540 up further. Well, I hope that you will vote with contingent upon chose approval that you 318 00:27:29,540 --> 00:27:32,720 to a vote tonight to accept this contract. 319 00:27:34,500 --> 00:27:36,480 Sir, are you so moved? 320 00:27:37,020 --> 00:27:38,640 I so move, Sam. 321 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:39,840 Okay. 322 00:27:40,820 --> 00:27:41,800 Chris seconds. 323 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,600 I haven't teeny tiny question. 324 00:27:44,020 --> 00:27:44,140 Yeah. 325 00:27:44,340 --> 00:27:47,180 The money's for this as it does come out of the. 326 00:27:47,340 --> 00:27:49,500 It comes out of what we have collected for the mountain. 327 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,780 And it doesn't jeopardize the sale or just not the anyway. 328 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,120 Okay, no, it does not jeopardize this purchase. 329 00:27:55,540 --> 00:27:56,280 Okay. Okay. 330 00:27:56,620 --> 00:27:58,360 Any more questions or discussion? 331 00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:00,380 I do know where, how much money I need. 332 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,160 Where are you going? 333 00:28:01,860 --> 00:28:02,800 All in favor? 334 00:28:03,700 --> 00:28:03,800 Hi. 335 00:28:05,220 --> 00:28:05,340 Hi. 336 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:05,800 Hi. 337 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:06,640 Hi. 338 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:06,860 Hi. 339 00:28:07,740 --> 00:28:08,180 Thanks. 340 00:28:08,180 --> 00:28:08,700 All right. 341 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:09,760 Okay. 342 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:11,040 Okay. 343 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:12,560 Okay. 344 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:13,460 Okay. 345 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,040 Thank you. 346 00:28:15,740 --> 00:28:16,620 Thank you. 347 00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:17,440 Okay. 348 00:28:17,740 --> 00:28:20,140 And I've been signing on to some of everybody who go. 349 00:28:20,300 --> 00:28:20,440 Yeah. 350 00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:21,100 Next page. 351 00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:21,720 Second page. 352 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,160 It's not, it's very straightforward little contract. 353 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:24,460 Right. 354 00:28:24,580 --> 00:28:25,680 We'll do this for that. 355 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,960 I would like to make a financial report. 356 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:36,880 Our monies are coming in and actually we're calling them all in. 357 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,720 So our monies are coming in pretty rapidly these days. 358 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:51,140 I believe that Tammy made a deposit today as the first deposit in the in the restricted account. 359 00:28:51,140 --> 00:28:51,460 Right. 360 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:57,160 And then Sarah and I will meet with her at the beginning of next week. 361 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:02,300 I hope on Tuesday to determine what needs to be transferred out of the, what we've 362 00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:05,200 already collected in the existing account. 363 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:11,380 I just left $12,000 sitting on her desk also. 364 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,180 I mean, it's in glumps because 365 00:29:17,290 --> 00:29:23,110 the desired schedule is that we collect in everything except 366 00:29:23,110 --> 00:29:28,970 the state historic fund because that one's going to take the longest, everything else, which would 367 00:29:28,970 --> 00:29:36,870 mean that about the 15th of January we should have in that restricted account about $395,000. 368 00:29:37,710 --> 00:29:45,070 The state historic fund will give us 80% of the money they've promised, which means that they will 369 00:29:45,070 --> 00:29:54,050 give us $160,000, so if you do some quick math that puts us at about $550, and what we 370 00:29:54,050 --> 00:29:59,270 need for the property is $500, and we need some extra for closing costs. 371 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:28,900 But you see that that gives us enough to do this project, too. So we're not, we're not jeopardizing our money. And besides which they still have another $40,000 that they've promised us, they just won't give it to you all at once. And I usually they do 40%. You spend that and they give you another 40% and then you 20% and I said, you know, we can't do that because our spend is a one spend. 372 00:30:28,900 --> 00:30:36,220 and so they agreed that they would do the 80% in time for our closing. Right now the closing 373 00:30:36,220 --> 00:30:44,440 is set for Monday, January 30th. It would be held here in this room. Tom Waddle will 374 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:50,240 from the title company will come to Silver Palm. I would expect that Debbie might be with him. 375 00:30:50,820 --> 00:30:56,980 We have not set a time, but if we made it late afternoon, who would we get a few of you? 376 00:30:56,980 --> 00:31:06,840 So that's that's a question I have because that would it would be wonderful to have a few people around. 377 00:31:08,940 --> 00:31:19,760 So when we find out a definite time, I think that we should do something that's it. 378 00:31:22,060 --> 00:31:30,180 As far as I know Cindy, I am also available and just really quickly, Tammy, deposited $33,000 379 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:39,260 today, a big corn sheep society at 20, Albert Fry at three, and Sandra Dallas at $10,000 380 00:31:39,260 --> 00:31:39,680 50. 381 00:31:41,020 --> 00:31:47,360 And I just put on her desk, what I put on her desk. 382 00:31:47,820 --> 00:31:49,680 10,000 from the whole desk. 383 00:31:51,660 --> 00:31:57,160 Collective 2000 from Shackley, a tiny bit from me. 384 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,600 And so that would go in. 385 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,900 What we're going to transfer is about $110,000. 386 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,000 So you can see they're coming in. 387 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:15,280 And George Hunt Trust got in the mail today, Sandra's other $80,000, which she thought was 388 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,200 being sent here. 389 00:32:16,340 --> 00:32:17,120 It doesn't matter. 390 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,260 The trust will get it through their books and get it through us. 391 00:32:21,220 --> 00:32:28,300 So yes, it's all arriving, which is just sort of fascinating. 392 00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:36,680 And Sarah, I got a couple, another one that's just come in today. 393 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:37,660 Oh, great. 394 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,520 Yeah, yeah, which I have a little note on. 395 00:32:42,020 --> 00:32:45,000 If I can walk across the street and stuff that's you before I leave. 396 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,180 Oh, okay, okay. 397 00:32:46,820 --> 00:32:46,920 Yep. 398 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,460 So that's, that's where we go. 399 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,960 Well, I think that we have discussed that we would do that. 400 00:32:55,220 --> 00:32:58,000 If you, but I don't think you ever voted on it. 401 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:04,320 if you wish to to vote on it, or is that something we need to do, or do we just 402 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,240 transfer the funds? 403 00:33:07,990 --> 00:33:12,870 You should be able to transfer the funds. I move that we transfer the 404 00:33:14,010 --> 00:33:21,050 SP, F and P, whatever funds. I have to get Marty on the phone to make it valid. 405 00:33:22,050 --> 00:33:25,210 Okay. So do we think we need to do it? 406 00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:30,310 Well, that's what I was asking you, do you think it's necessary? 407 00:33:32,790 --> 00:33:38,010 I, you know, I don't, but Cindy, you, you have more experience with this. 408 00:33:38,390 --> 00:33:40,250 Oh, I actually, you're transferring it within. 409 00:33:40,530 --> 00:33:41,470 You're not sending it. 410 00:33:41,610 --> 00:33:47,030 I don't think you have to vote on a transfer between your own accounts because you're 411 00:33:47,030 --> 00:33:49,270 going to do it all the time, all the time. 412 00:33:49,510 --> 00:33:55,530 I mean, and actually your basic account has five funds in it and you're forever. 413 00:33:56,650 --> 00:34:04,510 doing this. Yeah. Yeah. She's 100% right if it's internal. We don't have to do a motion at all. 414 00:34:04,530 --> 00:34:12,070 So hold an account into the real account, too. Cool idea. Yeah, well, both of them are your accounts. 415 00:34:12,270 --> 00:34:15,530 Yeah, I mean, holding ones like a holding account. Yes. Right. Yeah. 416 00:34:16,530 --> 00:34:20,330 It's just, it's just a lot of you have a savings account and a checking account. Yeah. 417 00:34:20,610 --> 00:34:25,510 It's essentially what we're doing here. Right. And you know, you hold the savings account. So you 418 00:34:25,510 --> 00:34:31,050 want to buy the things you were saving up for, that's essentially what was happening. 419 00:34:31,450 --> 00:34:37,470 The transfer will be, I think it's $110,321.79. 420 00:34:38,930 --> 00:34:39,730 You think? 421 00:34:40,690 --> 00:34:41,670 I think. 422 00:34:42,130 --> 00:34:42,750 What's her mind? 423 00:34:43,330 --> 00:34:43,450 Yeah. 424 00:34:44,150 --> 00:34:44,990 Let me $78. 425 00:34:47,710 --> 00:34:49,430 So that's where we are. 426 00:34:50,410 --> 00:34:55,490 More news about the January 30th, and yes, we will try to get that. 427 00:34:55,490 --> 00:35:00,170 that back to Steve Hoffman as soon as we can. 428 00:35:00,530 --> 00:35:04,730 I'm not gonna stop him from gathering and listening to needs. 429 00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:05,170 Right. 430 00:35:05,550 --> 00:35:08,430 And I'm doing that way approved it with the wait 431 00:35:08,430 --> 00:35:10,110 and for the attorney to look over the agreement. 432 00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:10,510 Yeah. 433 00:35:10,930 --> 00:35:14,490 And it's Sarah writes to Joe and I will write to Joe also 434 00:35:14,490 --> 00:35:16,330 and say, this is what I discovered. 435 00:35:16,330 --> 00:35:19,550 And so we have proceeded with this firm 436 00:35:20,110 --> 00:35:21,090 because we had these. 437 00:35:21,650 --> 00:35:28,590 and at the advice of, because actually it was Becky Amman who called him up and said, 438 00:35:28,990 --> 00:35:30,430 this is what needs to happen. 439 00:35:31,050 --> 00:35:32,610 And you need to stay with your price. 440 00:35:33,250 --> 00:35:33,390 Yeah. 441 00:35:33,870 --> 00:35:34,310 Not cool. 442 00:35:35,010 --> 00:35:38,930 And, you know, I'm, anyway, it was very nice. 443 00:35:39,190 --> 00:35:41,690 She had it resolved in an hour and a half. 444 00:35:42,970 --> 00:35:43,450 Oh, yeah. 445 00:35:43,770 --> 00:35:46,050 Cindy, I mean, stars aligned. 446 00:35:46,670 --> 00:35:49,690 Wonderful that we're able to take advantage of your 447 00:35:49,690 --> 00:35:58,650 years of experience and wonderful connections on this, just very, very helpful and timely. 448 00:35:59,910 --> 00:36:11,350 Can I also throw out, I think it would be nice to thank Tammy very much for really persisting on getting this account established. 449 00:36:11,390 --> 00:36:16,730 It was far more than we anticipated it was going to be to get it in place. 450 00:36:16,730 --> 00:36:18,670 Yes, I agree. 451 00:36:19,250 --> 00:36:20,370 I agree. 452 00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:23,470 Yeah, we've gotten it done. 453 00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:27,390 And that's a really important one. 454 00:36:28,010 --> 00:36:33,050 Oh, I would ask there's one other interesting thing about this. 455 00:36:34,370 --> 00:36:37,450 The conservation easement itself costs money for the baseline 456 00:36:37,450 --> 00:36:43,730 and for the donation into the stewardship for the... 457 00:36:43,730 --> 00:36:48,890 And actually, the State of Stark fund will pay that bill. 458 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:56,300 And that bill is going to be larger than I expected it to be, but they will pay it. 459 00:36:58,020 --> 00:37:04,960 And we're going to have to figure out how we organize that payment, but that's why when 460 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:11,600 you look at the contract that comes from them, hopefully by end of next week, if not very 461 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:18,960 very beginning of January, it will be for more than the $200,000. It will be for that plus the 462 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:25,800 72,000 that's going to go into a constation. And ultimately, that will leave us hopefully with 463 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:31,640 a little bit of money to do a little bit of maybe signage and a little bit of cleanup in a couple of spots. 464 00:37:32,820 --> 00:37:33,300 Okay. 465 00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:44,380 I'm not breaking something that I want to draw out here in my conversation with Joe besides the environmental assessment. 466 00:37:45,260 --> 00:37:56,220 I also asked her what she thought the town should do to lower our liability once we do on it. 467 00:37:56,220 --> 00:38:01,880 And she said, of course, that I should talk to the Sorcerer. 468 00:38:02,460 --> 00:38:07,180 She don't know that Sorcerer offers liability coverage for something like that. 469 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:25,320 But she said that one thing that we should definitely plan for and take care of as soon as we can is some signage, some no no trespassing signs on sites that have hazards and stuff like that. 470 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:32,320 And so I agree that we should be as proactive as we can in getting that done. 471 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:33,900 Yeah. And I got told Joe, 472 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:43,280 um, me personally, I'm more of the natural selection type of people want to go up there 473 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,440 and fall on a mineshaft and. 474 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:46,480 Yeah. 475 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:53,580 But in my position as mayor of the town, my responsibility or part of my responsibility 476 00:38:53,580 --> 00:38:59,460 So the ability is protecting the interest of the town and so I think that's something 477 00:38:59,460 --> 00:39:06,560 that we need to keep in mind and plan for is doing everything we can to mitigate the 478 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,580 risks involved with this type of property. 479 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:15,040 And I think there are a couple of sites that a couple of things should be done fairly 480 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:15,480 immediately. 481 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:23,400 That's why I'm hoping and it looks like it will, but I will only put it as a hope at 482 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:29,340 this point that we end up with a small pot, not a huge pot, but to do exactly, you know, 483 00:39:29,380 --> 00:39:34,280 we may want a couple of cameras, a couple of places we may want, um, a little bit of cleanup, 484 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:40,580 a couple of places, um, you know, especially at the far end. I mean, basically it's the smug 485 00:39:40,580 --> 00:39:46,380 burn, the mendota that you need to play. Right. Most of the rest of it is a little bit inaccessible 486 00:39:46,380 --> 00:39:50,460 and certainly inaccessible in the winter time, so it gives us a little bit of a shot of time. 487 00:39:50,460 --> 00:40:00,840 But those two should get some immediate notification to the public that this is what's happened and this is what's wrong. 488 00:40:01,260 --> 00:40:03,020 So I agree with that entirely. 489 00:40:03,460 --> 00:40:07,520 Also, the master plan for it is coming along rather well too. 490 00:40:07,780 --> 00:40:14,300 So we will talk about that more in January because they'll end up with a list of immediate recommendations. 491 00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:25,260 And I want to make clear, and I've said it before I want to make clear, again, I'm not trying to throw a wrench in there. 492 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:26,140 I get that. 493 00:40:26,580 --> 00:40:30,560 I'm trying to make sure that our base is recovered. 494 00:40:30,740 --> 00:40:40,920 Right. And thank you because it made me double think and go back and say, OK, maybe I better regroup what I think I know. 495 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,680 Oh, and yes, well, that happens, 496 00:40:45,300 --> 00:40:48,540 especially when it gets into the legal ramifications 497 00:40:48,540 --> 00:40:50,980 of land around here. 498 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,760 That's why it's helpful to know where here is. 499 00:40:55,180 --> 00:40:55,320 Right. 500 00:40:55,940 --> 00:40:56,820 Yeah, okay. 501 00:40:57,240 --> 00:40:58,240 You have anything else for? 502 00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,040 I do not. 503 00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:00,060 Okay. 504 00:41:00,340 --> 00:41:01,460 I think that's plenty enough. 505 00:41:01,620 --> 00:41:03,120 Well, thank you very much. 506 00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:07,020 Yeah, I know speaking for myself, 507 00:41:07,020 --> 00:41:10,560 and I think I'm speaking for most of the town. 508 00:41:11,140 --> 00:41:14,000 Thank you so much for all the effort 509 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,680 and work that you put into this. 510 00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:18,140 I was sort of fascinating, Sam. 511 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,720 You know, it's amazing. 512 00:41:21,700 --> 00:41:23,500 Thank you again so much, Cindy. 513 00:41:24,060 --> 00:41:26,100 Yeah, well, we're not there. 514 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,800 Let's get high these 30th of January, OK? 515 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,100 We'll make it. 516 00:41:34,340 --> 00:41:35,740 Yeah, we'll make it. 517 00:41:35,740 --> 00:41:42,840 at this point, I'm quite, I'm feeling rather positive about it. So, so this is, this is good. And it's, 518 00:41:42,940 --> 00:41:48,900 um, you know, it's always interesting. You take on these crazy projects, it's always interesting. 519 00:41:49,620 --> 00:41:50,400 Okay. Thank you. 520 00:41:50,620 --> 00:41:55,520 Sarah, I'm going to throw this little piece of paper at you in the next two minutes. Okay. 521 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,980 That sounds great. I got the light on. 522 00:41:58,460 --> 00:42:00,860 All right. All right. Thank you. 523 00:42:11,540 --> 00:42:12,540 I'm going to get out of here. 524 00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:29,520 I want to get back to my Christmas 525 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:48,880 This, at all, we just want to be clear about whether or not we're proceeding with an upgrade for the town's EC membership and plan for payment before the new year employers council membership. 526 00:42:48,880 --> 00:43:18,780 I know we've talked about this before as a budgeting committee, we have been strongly advised by Joe our attorney that we should upgrade from I think it's the core to the consulting membership and it is it's stiff, it's $3,300 for this new membership but it comes with benefits that 527 00:43:18,780 --> 00:43:24,180 that she really believes are timely and important for us to have as a municipality. 528 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:35,660 So we just want to put it out there as, you know, to solicit support and hopefully 529 00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:40,080 a vote to proceed with upgrading our membership. 530 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:47,300 And Sharon, I both seem to remember that we've voted on this once before, but we don't 531 00:43:47,300 --> 00:43:54,220 I don't remember when I was in degrees so or whatever. So do I hear a lot to upgrade? 532 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,420 I move we upgrade the town's EC membership. 533 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,680 You guys and I'll get Marty on the line, but Chris, you can scoot. 534 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:01,720 Is that okay? 535 00:44:01,720 --> 00:44:04,360 Thank you. I appreciate it. You guys have a good night. 536 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,380 All right. You're not here for a second. 537 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,380 OK. We're voting. 538 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:10,000 90 seconds. 539 00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:11,640 OK. OK. 540 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:21,680 We're voting to upgrade our employers council membership as we've discussed before, but I don't think we actually formally voted on it. Are you in agreement? 541 00:44:22,620 --> 00:44:38,840 What are we doing? The employees council membership? Yeah, because the attorney has advised us to do so because it increases the breadth of services we can get when it comes to critical questions about staffing, etc. 542 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:57,980 We have a membership that we've had for years and it is an organization that provides municipalities and other organizations with, okay, it is relevant to the personnel committee. 543 00:44:59,060 --> 00:44:59,800 Okay, welcome. 544 00:45:03,860 --> 00:45:24,880 We're voting now to increase the membership from the core membership, which we've had for years to what they call the consulting membership, which, as Joe explains, provides us with a greater breadth of critical services that we need particularly at this time. 545 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,960 All right. All right. Thanks, Marty. Bye. 546 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:34,140 All right. You too. Very Christmas, Marty. 547 00:45:35,660 --> 00:45:37,960 So he says yes. 548 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,000 Okay. 549 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,160 As do I. 550 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:41,960 Okay. And Kathy. 551 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:42,880 Hi. 552 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:43,800 Okay. 553 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,000 That's for eyes. 554 00:45:46,700 --> 00:45:49,100 Cool. Is this something Joe uses then? 555 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,080 Is this something Joe uses also? 556 00:45:52,080 --> 00:46:07,140 No, she didn't know of it. Something that no users, but it provides us with all kinds of services and consulting and access to a. 557 00:46:07,220 --> 00:46:08,120 We used it. 558 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,240 We've used it. 559 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:12,640 Everything costs something. 560 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,620 As much as we kid with the membership that we had. 561 00:46:15,620 --> 00:46:31,840 And I think Sarah has been talking to them in the last week or so about some issues that really isn't covered under the membership we have now, but they've been gracious enough to help us. 562 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,200 Is that correct, Sarah? 563 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:51,620 That is correct and you know they've provided us with sort of fundamental information and more on options that we can pay for or we increase our membership we would get for free kind of thing. 564 00:46:51,620 --> 00:46:53,500 Okay, thanks. 565 00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:55,040 Cool, yeah. 566 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:04,160 Yeah, so I'm not saying I'm not sure what else makes sense for us to cover. 567 00:47:05,180 --> 00:47:08,120 Um, I mean, look again. 568 00:47:09,180 --> 00:47:10,180 I can go. 569 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,740 I've got it up on the screen, I think, but. 570 00:47:13,740 --> 00:47:15,740 I'm very sorry for me. 571 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:16,940 We lost Chris for C. 572 00:47:16,940 --> 00:47:33,940 The rest of the staff, I don't think there's going to do much good just for the three of us to talk about it's a budget committee schedule budget development debrief plan for 2024 personal management committee. 573 00:47:42,710 --> 00:47:48,150 I think that's all stuff that we should deal with at the next meeting when everybody's 574 00:47:48,150 --> 00:47:49,350 here unless you. 575 00:47:50,010 --> 00:47:50,630 I agree. 576 00:47:51,490 --> 00:47:51,750 Okay. 577 00:47:52,950 --> 00:47:53,510 Cool. 578 00:47:54,030 --> 00:47:54,390 Alrighty. 579 00:47:54,570 --> 00:47:54,870 All right. 580 00:47:55,110 --> 00:47:56,350 Do I hear a motion to adjourn? 581 00:47:56,770 --> 00:47:58,590 I'm so motion to adjourn. 582 00:47:59,110 --> 00:47:59,430 I should. 583 00:47:59,810 --> 00:48:02,330 I have never got to do that before. 584 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:06,960 We don't have Chris or Sasha. 585 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:07,020 Yeah. 586 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,300 Everybody have a very Merry Christmas. 587 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,240 Essentially still. 588 00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:21,760 Oh, I can imagine there be any nays to that one. 589 00:48:22,620 --> 00:48:25,980 No, yes, did oh, did oh, same to you. 590 00:48:27,060 --> 00:48:30,180 Okay, Sarah, I'm going to leave this contractor. 591 00:48:30,180 --> 00:48:35,800 We're waiting for Joe's word on right here in front of the keyboard on the table. 592 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:41,320 Okay. So I don't take it with me and lose it. Okay. And then as soon as we hear back from 593 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:48,880 Joe, I'll come over and sign it. That sounds good to me. Cool. All right. Can you guys shut the lights 594 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:55,960 off and shut the machine? Yeah. Where did that? Cool. And yeah, Mary Christmas did on on what you said, 595 00:48:56,140 --> 00:49:03,360 Sam. Kathy, have a good one. You too. And don't forget the recording. Oh, ah, thank you. 596 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:10,520 Um, stop, share, okay, um, recording, 597 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,180 stop recording.