[0:12] Bring up issues that affect us.
[0:15] Good.
[0:17] >> Bernstein?
[0:17] >> Here.
[0:18] >> Bertrand?
[0:20] Rayford?
[0:21] >> Here.
[0:22] >> Tenner?
[0:23] Scott?
[0:24] >> Here. Please stand for a moment of
[0:25] silent prayer followed by the pledge of
[0:27] allegiance.
[0:31] Amen.
[0:32] >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
[0:34] United States of America and to the
[0:37] republic for which it stands, one nation
[0:40] under God,
[0:41] indivisible, with liberty and justice
[0:43] for all.
[0:45] >> [clears throat]
[0:47] » Items 2 through 11 seed will constitute
[0:49] the consent agenda. You can consider
[0:51] those items passed unanimously unless a
[0:53] separate roll call vote's asked for by a
[0:55] council member.
[0:57] Anybody wishing to speak on an item on
[0:59] the agenda, please come up as I read
[1:01] that item. If you want to speak on an
[1:03] item not under not on the agenda, please
[1:06] come up under citizen concerns. Remember
[1:08] to always state your name. I'll move the
[1:10] consent agenda.
[1:11] >> Second.
[1:12] >> Two is the reading of the city council
[1:15] July 6th council minutes.
[1:18] I should have stated I wasn't here, but
[1:20] we don't have a quorum if I do, so we'll
[1:21] just move on. Three is a motion
[1:23] reappointing
[1:24] Michelle Boston Ellis to the planning
[1:26] and zoning commission and board of
[1:28] adjustment for a five-year term. Upon
[1:30] due consideration of the circumstances,
[1:33] the city council waves the policy that
[1:35] no person shall serve more than two
[1:36] consecutive terms.
[1:39] Four is a resolution approving a project
[1:41] concept plans for the Big Sioux River
[1:43] levee extension. That item's been asked
[1:45] to be deferred for a week. I'll move
[1:47] that.
[1:47] >> Second.
[1:51] » Bertrand?
[1:52] Rayford?
[1:54] >> Aye.
[1:55] >> Scott?
[1:56] >> Aye.
[1:56] >> Bernstein?
[1:57] >> Aye.
[1:58] >> Six is a resolution awarding a purchase
[2:00] order to Trojan Technologies for 16
[2:02] Trojan
[2:04] Sigma UV8 replacement parts and Sigma
[2:07] sleeve replacement kits.
[2:09] Six are actions relating to grants.
[2:12] A is a resolution authorizing the police
[2:14] department to accept the 2024 Patrick
[2:17] Leahy Lee Lee Can't even say it.
[2:22] Leahy
[2:23] bulletproof vest program
[2:26] funds to purchase body armor. B is a
[2:28] resolution authorizing the police
[2:30] department to accept the 2025 bullet
[2:33] proof vest partnership program funds to
[2:35] purchase body armor.
[2:38] Seven are actions relating to street
[2:39] closures. A is a resolution temporarily
[2:41] closing
[2:42] Cook Street
[2:44] from West 6th to West 7th on October 1st
[2:47] for the Can Do Kids backpack giveaway.
[2:50] B is a resolution temporarily closing
[2:52] various streets
[2:54] in the downtown area on July 25th for
[2:56] the historic 4th Street Classic Car Show
[2:59] and Cruise.
[3:01] C is a resolution temporarily closing
[3:03] various streets in the downtown area
[3:06] on July 29th to accommodate the
[3:08] Rivercade parade and staging area.
[3:12] Eight are actions relating to agreements
[3:14] and contracts. A is a resolution
[3:16] approving a services agreement with
[3:17] NeoGov for benefits and administration
[3:21] and human resource information system
[3:23] services
[3:24] for a period of 3 years with two 1-year
[3:27] options to extend.
[3:30] C is a resolution
[3:32] I'm sorry.
[3:32] >> B Mayor B is the Mayor before you move
[3:35] on, can I ask a question on 8A?
[3:39] Janet, you have this?
[3:41] Question I've got is on the NeoGov
[3:44] um
[3:46] votes. Year one is at $48,000, year two
[3:49] is at $41,000,
[3:51] and year three it to $82,000.
[3:53] Can you explain the increase?
[3:56] >> My name is Janet Fuller. I'm the HR
[3:57] benefits manager.
[3:58] Um the reason that's changing on year
[4:01] three is we're also adding what's called
[4:03] e-forms. So, it's another level to their
[4:06] product offering and it allows us to
[4:09] capture all of our data electronically,
[4:11] so we don't have to
[4:13] print out 100 different forms and get
[4:15] them all completed. So, it just allows
[4:17] everything to be done electronically.
[4:20] >> Then you note in the financial impact
[4:22] that there's about a $10,000 savings
[4:24] over three years. That's not per year,
[4:26] that's
[4:27] $10,000 over the course of the
[4:28] three-year contract.
[4:29] >> Correct. The first two years have
[4:31] $20,000 savings each and then we
[4:33] implement the e-forms.
[4:35] >> So, then what would the what's the quote
[4:37] for the two-year extension?
[4:39] >> We don't have Those are just open for
[4:41] negotiation. We didn't get quotes on
[4:42] those.
[4:42] >> really not an option with a price. It's
[4:44] just the option to extend based upon a
[4:47] that quote.
[4:47] >> Okay.
[4:48] Thanks.
[4:54] » B is a
[4:58] resolution approving amendment number
[4:59] one to the consulting services agreement
[5:01] with JEOL Consulting Group in connection
[5:03] with the Big
[5:04] River levee extension project. In light
[5:06] of deferring the other one, should this
[5:08] not be deferred as well?
[5:12] Would make sense to me, but nothing
[5:14] makes sense to me anymore. So, I thought
[5:16] I'd ask the question.
[5:18] >> Gordon Fersdahl, city engineer. Uh yeah,
[5:20] it would make sense to also defer that.
[5:22] >> I'll move that.
[5:23] >> Second.
[5:27] » Rayford.
[5:28] >> Aye.
[5:28] >> Kener.
[5:29] >> Aye.
[5:30] >> Stad.
[5:30] >> Aye.
[5:31] >> Berstein.
[5:32] >> Aye.
[5:32] >> Bertrand.
[5:33] >> Aye.
[5:35] >> Stay up here, Gordon, cuz I got one on
[5:36] this one. C is a resolution approving a
[5:38] consulting services agreement with
[5:40] Snyder and Associates with a Morningside
[5:42] Avenue corridor study.
[5:44] We did one of these on the other side of
[5:46] Morningside Avenue and it kind of fell
[5:48] flat on its face.
[5:51] So, what are we going to gain by this
[5:53] traffic
[5:55] >> Or our city engineer
[5:56] >> Bacon is here anxiously awaiting to get
[5:58] to work on it, but that's not a good
[6:00] enough reason for me.
[6:03] How old are the utilities in this
[6:05] stretch?
[6:06] >> In this stretch, they're about 130, 135
[6:09] years old. The sewer is and the all
[6:11] water main.
[6:13] It's a 10-in water main that's
[6:16] We've been very lucky so far.
[6:19] >> Have there any major breaks in it but if
[6:21] we had some?
[6:23] >> Uh we've had some but not not a huge
[6:25] amount, no. Not not during this stretch.
[6:28] >> So, is this going to go like Riverside
[6:30] Boulevard where you're going to try to
[6:31] make it a three-lane?
[6:33] >> Uh that's possibility. We're looking at
[6:35] everything on this, not just three-lane.
[6:38] We want to see what the public wants
[6:40] there
[6:41] and see what's best
[6:43] to accommodate our future in the whole
[6:46] area.
[6:49] » Did you bid this work or because it's
[6:51] quality-based, you're not required to
[6:53] bid it?
[6:53] >> We didn't bid it but we did ask for
[6:56] qualifications
[6:57] and we reviewed uh I think there was two
[6:59] or three.
[7:02] And then we took and we entered
[7:04] negotiations with that first one.
[7:06] They were the highest ranked one.
[7:11] » Okay.
[7:12] This resolution approving a modification
[7:14] to the military construction cooperative
[7:16] agreement with the National Guard Bureau
[7:18] to add additional funding for the
[7:20] warm-up holding pad technical
[7:22] appendix
[7:23] in connection with runway 1331 and 185th
[7:27] apron reconstruction project at the
[7:29] airport.
[7:31] This resolution approving appendix three
[7:33] to the memorandum of of agreement with
[7:36] the Iowa Department of Public Defense
[7:37] for the warm-up holding pad project in
[7:40] connection with Runway 1331 and the
[7:42] 185th
[7:44] apron reconstruction project at the
[7:46] airport and rescinding resolution
[7:48] 2026-0612.
[7:52] F is a resolution awarding and approving
[7:54] a contract to Halstead Excavating for
[7:56] the Siouxland Nexus Program Volume 5
[7:59] Tanker Warm-up and Holding Pad Project
[8:01] at the airport.
[8:03] G is a resolution
[8:04] >> Mayor, can I ask a question? So, I know
[8:06] that D, E, F, and G all correlate to the
[8:09] same project. I know that this is part
[8:12] of a much bigger project with the 185th.
[8:15] The The Halstead contract is about $11
[8:17] million. It's a little bit more than
[8:20] the engineers' estimate. Um what I'm
[8:23] curious about is how we're going to
[8:24] continue to manage these projects and
[8:27] phase them.
[8:28] I know that the Chamber of Commerce is
[8:30] actively involved in helping lobby and
[8:32] generate additional funds. Well, I It
[8:34] doesn't need to necessarily hold up what
[8:36] we're reviewing and approving today. Can
[8:38] we get an update? I know part of that
[8:40] was in the presentation that was made 60
[8:42] days ago, but I think it would just be
[8:44] helpful to get some additional
[8:46] commentary. I know there's been some
[8:48] positive and some negative with regard
[8:50] to where we think we are with generating
[8:52] those the additional the funds that are
[8:54] necessary. And we're talking 100 to 150
[8:57] million dollars.
[8:58] Um so, if we could get an update on
[8:59] that, that'd be great.
[9:01] >> Uh yeah. So, I think right now the
[9:03] Senate's back in session now, so we're
[9:05] hoping uh here within the next month.
[9:07] And then hopefully if they finalize a
[9:09] bill, we'll know something, you know, by
[9:11] September.
[9:12] >> Okay. And then could we just get maybe a
[9:13] summary on how we're going to phase the
[9:15] various projects including
[9:17] >> I I think the phasing will depend on how
[9:19] the funding comes.
[9:20] >> Okay.
[9:20] >> So, this is the one was actually
[9:21] scheduled to be last, so we're doing it
[9:22] first.
[9:23] >> That's why we I thought this was a later
[9:25] project.
[9:25] >> It was, but they approved the funding
[9:27] for this project and not the others. So,
[9:29] it really depends.
[9:30] >> And
[9:33] >> What's that?
[9:33] >> The switching around.
[9:35] >> Yeah.
[9:35] >> And you're comfortable that this is
[9:38] significantly more at 10% more than the
[9:40] engineers estimates. You're okay with
[9:41] this?
[9:42] >> It is. And and I'm okay with it because
[9:44] the military is okay with it. So, we we
[9:46] had a phone call with National Guard
[9:48] Bureau and that's the reason for the two
[9:49] modifications cuz they increased the
[9:51] funding.
[9:51] >> Okay.
[9:53] Thank you.
[9:55] G is the resolution.
[9:58] What's that?
[10:02] I don't know. Do you go Anybody from the
[10:03] guard or want to talk or
[10:11] » I don't appreciate the opportunity to
[10:13] speak. So, first of all, I just want to
[10:15] say thank you. All the projects with
[10:16] Sula and Nexus are a huge tremendous
[10:20] future for the 185th and then the
[10:22] airport in Sioux City.
[10:24] The
[10:27] response we get from the local, the the
[10:29] state, and the national levels has been
[10:31] incredible. A couple questions you
[10:33] asked, you know, why is it higher? The
[10:35] 11.8 is where we're our final dollar
[10:37] amount is. And the bureau has provided
[10:39] the full 11.8. We have that in hand
[10:41] locally.
[10:42] The phasing of the projects did change
[10:44] thing change things tremendously. We
[10:46] know we planned on chewing up the
[10:47] concrete from the runway and using it as
[10:49] some of the fill out there. We had to
[10:51] buy things that we would not have had to
[10:52] buy. That has to do with the phasing.
[10:54] But again, Sula and Nexus is two things.
[10:57] It's really all the projects. It's the
[10:58] runway, it's the ramp, and the
[11:00] extensions, and everything we've been
[11:01] talking about. But it's really the
[11:03] people behind it. And then just want to
[11:05] say thank you to the council and
[11:06] everybody else that's that's made this
[11:07] possible because it's truly buying us a
[11:09] really great future.
[11:11] >> Name for the record, please.
[11:13] You name We need your name for the
[11:15] record.
[11:16] >> Sure.
[11:16] Colonel Sean Struxness.
[11:19] Thank you. Any questions?
[11:20] >> Thank you. No, thank you.
[11:21] >> Thank you.
[11:22] >> I've a resolution approving work order
[11:24] number 202320
[11:26] for RS&H Iowa for the volume five warm
[11:29] up holding pad project tied the runway
[11:32] 1331 and the 185th apron
[11:35] reconstruction project the airport. I'm
[11:38] going to move to defer
[11:40] at the request of the legal department
[11:42] H, I, and J
[11:43] for 1 week.
[11:45] >> Second.
[11:49] » Stainer.
[11:49] >> Hi.
[11:50] >> Scott.
[11:50] >> Hi.
[11:51] >> Barenstein.
[11:52] >> Hi.
[11:53] >> Bertrand.
[11:53] >> Hi.
[11:54] >> Brayford.
[11:54] >> Hi.
[11:55] >> Niner action relating to personnel is
[11:57] resolution suspending the requirements
[11:59] of the Iowa code for hiring of employees
[12:01] in the police department for 1 year.
[12:04] >> Mayor, I would I would like to ask a
[12:05] question on that one.
[12:09] I know that
[12:10] >> [clears throat]
[12:11] >> last year when the police department
[12:12] came and asked for this, I
[12:14] was serving on the civil service. I
[12:16] remember
[12:17] wondering will we be able to go back and
[12:20] look to see what
[12:22] how the vacancies look versus last year
[12:24] versus this year.
[12:26] What do you know, do if you know what
[12:28] they were last year to this year or how
[12:30] are we looking with those current
[12:31] vacancies and
[12:33] >> Rex Mehl of the police department.
[12:35] Councilman, I
[12:36] right now we're actually
[12:38] hiring less than our vacancies to give
[12:41] our field training program a bit of a
[12:43] rest. So,
[12:45] for one thing, obviously we want to hire
[12:47] the best candidates, which is what we
[12:48] always endeavor to do in any process and
[12:51] this is facilitated that. But I don't
[12:54] have the numbers in front of me. If
[12:55] that's something you're curious about,
[12:56] you've had the benefit that the other
[12:57] council members haven't of us
[12:59] discussing discussing this in civil
[13:01] service and why the transition. But
[13:04] right now more than anything we're
[13:06] trying to not overtake our program,
[13:09] meaning that we have too many people in
[13:11] the training program
[13:12] and we kind of exhaust our field
[13:14] training officers. So, we're we're
[13:16] getting up there. We're at a good level.
[13:18] We're going to continue with the
[13:20] council's blessing test in this manner.
[13:23] And that way, as as aware, we used to
[13:26] have,
[13:27] you know, a few years ago it would have
[13:28] been a 2-year list. And so we were
[13:30] missing people that came out of the
[13:31] 2-year colleges or that entered the
[13:33] workforce and by
[13:35] one of the one of the positive
[13:37] byproducts of doing this is that as we
[13:39] need a new list, we move to immediately
[13:42] start creating
[13:44] group of eligible candidates and it's
[13:46] worked really well. And a lot of other
[13:48] communities have followed suit. And as
[13:50] you know, the checks and balances that
[13:52] would have I mean nepotism, things like
[13:54] that as you're aware, we have a lot of
[13:56] checks and balances not only before
[13:59] hiring but after hiring and and through
[14:01] the training process to make sure that
[14:04] candidates are properly screened.
[14:06] >> Okay, yeah, that and that was
[14:08] where I was going with that. I I didn't
[14:09] know if this was going to become the new
[14:10] normal. So
[14:12] >> I I think I think statewide it will.
[14:15] We're going to come back to you every
[14:16] year. If we see a downside, I'll
[14:18] definitely disclose that. But just
[14:20] currently with hiring and the way and
[14:22] the dynamic way that law enforcement
[14:25] hiring is happening, I just don't see a
[14:27] downside. I think it's been
[14:28] [clears throat] positive for the city
[14:29] and for the department. And again, any
[14:31] concerns of
[14:33] the new process, we're happy to answer
[14:35] this council and the Civil Service
[14:37] Commission to make sure everybody's
[14:38] comfortable with the way it functions.
[14:41] >> Chief, this isn't directed necessarily
[14:43] at the request under 9A, probably more
[14:46] to 9B and I don't know if Janelle or
[14:48] Janet want to maybe address this. The
[14:50] question I've got is this is the
[14:52] third or fourth time that we've been
[14:54] asked to waive the rules. And I think it
[14:56] needs to be more to more of the
[14:57] exception than the rule to waive the
[15:00] rules because there's a reason there's a
[15:02] Civil Service process, right? I have no
[15:04] problem with what we approved prior. I
[15:06] have no problem approving this. And
[15:08] theoretically, I don't think I have a
[15:09] problem with 9B, but in the description
[15:12] of the request to waive rule
[15:15] or suspend the rule for 9B, it was that
[15:18] you were not able to attract Parks and
[15:21] Rec applicants and you were losing that
[15:24] opportunity within say 3 weeks. And and
[15:27] I'm not suggesting that we don't need to
[15:29] suspend if you if you've got to get good
[15:30] candidates, you want to get good
[15:31] candidates, you want to be able to
[15:32] respond, but it's not unusual to be
[15:35] applying and applying elsewhere and go
[15:37] through a two or three week process. So,
[15:40] I'm not opposed to approving 9B under
[15:42] the consent agenda, but I want to make
[15:44] sure that we're using this this opportunity to suspend the
[15:48] rules for the right reasons.
[15:50] >> Sure.
[15:51] >> Okay.
[15:51] >> Janelle Bertrant, Human Resources
[15:53] Director. I will probably have Parks and
[15:55] Rec discuss their specific vacancy, but
[15:57] I can speak globally with the reason
[15:59] that the waiver was in place.
[16:01] It is because the list is good for 1
[16:04] year
[16:05] and you're making a hire, say you say
[16:08] you certified the list in October, you
[16:09] could be making a hire in May. So, the
[16:12] person
[16:13] is confused as to why that's happening.
[16:16] You may not have any people on the list.
[16:18] It's to keep the list current, um to get
[16:21] an an an active um applicant pool that
[16:26] departments can move through the hiring
[16:27] list quicker instead of sitting on that
[16:29] same list for a year. My department and
[16:32] I have put um safeguards in place such
[16:35] as any department that has a waiver is
[16:38] required to sit through mandatory
[16:40] training on interviewing. I've also
[16:41] required that a Human Resources staff be
[16:44] um
[16:45] a panel member when they sit in on the
[16:47] interview. And departments have to
[16:49] justify to me why they want to
[16:53] post again. They have to show that they
[16:55] have interviewed everybody on the list.
[16:57] You can't just look at the list,
[16:59] interview let's just say three of the
[17:00] five and move on. They have to make an
[17:02] effort to talk to everyone and document
[17:05] why those people are not the appropriate
[17:07] hire.
[17:09] >> It's it's helpful with that explanation,
[17:11] Janelle, because you're giving the
[17:12] guardrails around the
[17:15] to put rule and the suspension of the
[17:17] rules, so that helps.
[17:18] >> Right. And we as an organization chose
[17:20] to bring them up department-wide or
[17:22] department-specific instead of doing a
[17:24] blanket request, we chose to do it by
[17:26] department.
[17:27] >> Thank you.
[17:28] >> Yep.
[17:29] >> Appreciate that by department, too, so.
[17:32] >> These are resolutions suspending the
[17:34] requirements of the Iowa code of hiring
[17:36] of employees in the Parks and Rec
[17:37] Department for 1 year. 10 are
[17:39] applications for alcohol license. 11 are
[17:42] boards, commission, and committee
[17:43] minutes.
[17:45] Uh
[17:46] this is the end of the consent agenda.
[17:50] Vote when we're ready.
[18:07] » Passes 5012 hearing resolution approving
[18:10] plans and specs for the Hamilton
[18:12] Boulevard resurfacing project. I'll move
[18:14] that.
[18:17] » Is there a second?
[18:18] >> Second.
[18:19] >> Public hearing is now open. Is there
[18:20] anyone to be heard?
[18:24] Seeing none, the hearing is closed.
[18:42] Passes 5013 hearing resolution accepting
[18:45] >> accepting proposal of Siouxland Youth
[18:46] Hockey Association for lease of land in
[18:48] the Donner Park Urban Renewal Area, the
[18:50] property located at
[18:51] 3808 Stadium Drive for the IBP Ice
[18:55] Center shooting shed. Staff recommends a
[18:57] deferral until July 27th. I'll move
[19:00] that.
[19:00] >> Second.
[19:10] » Is it from the staff or from them guys.
[19:13] Huh?
[19:13] >> Wait.
[19:16] » Matt can speak to it.
[19:17] >> I think that's what he said.
[19:19] >> This ain't slowing them down, is it?
[19:20] >> Matt Salvatore, Parks and Recreation
[19:22] Director. We're just waiting on a
[19:23] certificate of insurance from USA
[19:24] Hockey. I don't There's some hold up
[19:26] with that. As soon as we get it, they'll
[19:27] be able to move forward.
[19:29] >> Good good project.
[19:45] » 5014's building permits update.
[19:49] >> Let's go, guys.
[20:00] » Here, building inspection services
[20:01] manager. As you can see, you can see the
[20:04] report has come out again for
[20:05] residential and commercial. If you have
[20:07] any questions specifically, please
[20:09] ask in a way.
[20:11] One of the things that we've noticed
[20:12] recently, there's been an uptick in the
[20:14] commercial aspect of it requesting
[20:17] sit-downs, which I think is great.
[20:20] Projects to before the applications are
[20:21] even sent in or permits are even sent in
[20:23] to be able to go through and make sure
[20:24] they're
[20:25] complete as can be done. So,
[20:28] it's a good move.
[20:33] » Uh
[20:34] Marty Doughty, Economic Community
[20:35] Development Director.
[20:37] Just an update real quick. We've been
[20:39] hard at it in the
[20:40] software
[20:42] implementation
[20:44] effort. There's As I said before,
[20:46] there's two sides to it. There's
[20:47] planning and engineering, which relates
[20:49] to the land review, basically. And the
[20:52] other part is the permitting, building
[20:54] permitting part, which which of course
[20:56] Daryl is involved in it. So,
[20:58] we have these two tracks going on. We've
[20:59] been spending many hours um
[21:03] in discovering
[21:05] probably a lot of things that we could
[21:06] have been doing different with the
[21:07] software we had and then
[21:09] um implementing that improving
[21:12] the process and going forward it's going
[21:15] to take a lot of work yet to get
[21:18] everything adjusted and changed over to the new software and then everyone
[21:23] trained on it. So
[21:25] that we're right in the middle of that
[21:27] right now. That's the best I can tell
[21:28] you is
[21:29] >> What do you think the time frame is
[21:30] Marty?
[21:31] >> Well, longer than than I than we
[21:33] thought. You know all honesty
[21:36] and we had a meeting this morning with
[21:38] the consultant to talk about that. How
[21:40] can we can we do to speed that up and um
[21:43] Mike your thoughts on it but we
[21:46] are hopeful that we
[21:48] are going to have another meeting
[21:49] tomorrow morning and um
[21:51] on the planning side of it and
[21:54] identified
[21:56] the staff people who are the most
[21:57] critical to be part of that and not have
[21:59] too many people involved in it until we
[22:00] get to the training part of it. But
[22:04] Marty what are some
[22:05] >> of the things that you're running into
[22:06] as far as issues or problems
[22:10] learning or
[22:13] » I don't know if it's problems so much as
[22:15] maybe we haven't in the past taken full advantage of the capacity
[22:20] that the software has in terms of you
[22:23] know things that we do it this way
[22:24] manually or we we could have been doing
[22:26] it more efficiently in terms of the
[22:28] capabilities of the software. Things
[22:29] have changed over the years. People have
[22:31] changed.
[22:33] The people that first implemented that
[22:35] are not here anymore and um
[22:37] we're learning a lot about that and it's honestly it's a little painstaking
[22:43] going through the process of item by
[22:45] item. Why do you why do you take so many days to do this
[22:49] or why do you why do you notify people
[22:52] in that manner.
[22:54] Is there a way that we can um
[22:57] you co-
[22:59] this is where I struggle here. The codes
[23:02] that go into making up the decision in
[23:04] the software, you know, are tied to
[23:07] um the data that we have and and um
[23:12] You want to take a shot at that?
[23:13] >> Sure, I'd be happy to.
[23:15] >> [laughter]
[23:15] >> Um
[23:16] >> It's complicated.
[23:17] >> Our predecessors um you activated as
[23:20] much as they needed to on the programs
[23:22] to make them function for what they
[23:23] needed at time. Unfortunately, a lot of
[23:25] the communications and a lot of parts
[23:27] that needed to be in place so that one
[23:28] thing would read off of another read off
[23:29] of another. So, one of the frustrations
[23:30] we've had over the years of not being
[23:32] able to get reports printed out quickly
[23:34] and see, you know, measure our our
[23:36] efficiencies and deficiencies, quite
[23:38] frankly both. Um and those all those
[23:41] things are going to take a lot of time.
[23:42] You know, one of the things that have
[23:43] been frustrating for me and I'll just
[23:44] give it out as an example, it's going to
[23:46] take a long time to get it fixed but
[23:47] once it gets it fixed, it's going to
[23:48] save us an incredible amount of of waste
[23:50] dollars down the road is rental permits
[23:52] for instance. Rental permits every
[23:54] single year we have to manually go in
[23:56] and change every single permit. And
[23:59] we're talking thousands and thousands and thousands of
[24:02] properties and it takes about three to
[24:04] four screens to go through manually on
[24:08] each and every one of those. So, the
[24:09] amount of staff time to do that is is is
[24:11] huge. It should have never been under
[24:13] the app permit side, it should have been
[24:14] under the business license side. We're
[24:16] finding those things out, all those
[24:17] little things. Contractor files, being
[24:19] able to have those informations in there
[24:21] for so for the permitting process.
[24:22] There's a lot of things that will tie
[24:23] together that will make it much more
[24:25] efficient. Unfortunately, it's going to
[24:27] delay our time in getting it set up and
[24:29] running. We want to do it right. We
[24:30] don't want to force it this time just to
[24:33] make, you know, just to make some
[24:34] reports quick or, you know, I mean
[24:35] ultimately we started this thing to be
[24:37] able to do online permits. Let's face
[24:38] it. That was the biggest thing we wanted
[24:39] to do was be able to make payments
[24:40] online and and submit permits online.
[24:44] And it's it's
[24:45] blowing into this much larger project
[24:48] unfortunately that will take us more
[24:49] time but I think in the long run it's
[24:51] well worth the investment of time to get
[24:53] it right.
[24:54] >> Do you think that this will be the right
[24:58] product that we have, you know, versus
[25:01] getting down the road and saying this
[25:03] may not even be what
[25:04] >> You know, if you'd asked me that
[25:05] question a month ago, I'd have probably
[25:06] had a completely different answer than I
[25:07] have today. I think today I'm I'm I'm
[25:10] drinking the Kool-Aid.
[25:11] Um
[25:12] It it's it's
[25:13] >> more training. I'm like, what?
[25:16] >> Well, I just I don't want to I don't
[25:17] want to fall in the same trap that we
[25:18] fell into decades ago. And and that I
[25:20] don't want to see us fall into that
[25:22] trap. We're We've got a lot of financial
[25:23] investment into this. We're going to
[25:25] have a lot of wage dollars invested in
[25:26] this, and I want it to be a good product
[25:27] for many, many years to come. And I
[25:29] think we're there with the right
[25:30] product. We just have to get the right
[25:32] information in the right places to be
[25:33] able to do that.
[25:34] >> Do we have our IT department working in
[25:38] conjunction with
[25:39] >> Oh, absolutely. Yeah. We have several
[25:41] meetings, and mostly at least once or
[25:43] twice a week we have 4-hour or
[25:45] 3-to-4-hour meetings with them getting
[25:48] our business plan in place on how this
[25:49] is going to function, how all these
[25:50] things tie together, so that when you're
[25:52] reading this, it pulls information from
[25:54] everywhere. This is not just going to
[25:55] span just the building department and
[25:57] the engineering department and the
[25:58] planning and zoning departments. We're
[26:00] going to include fire in this. We're
[26:01] going to include a lot of every other
[26:02] areas where all that information comes
[26:04] into one place. Plus, it's going to
[26:06] allow the public to be able to view
[26:08] their case or the online as well, so
[26:12] they they can see where the progress is.
[26:13] It might be It might have just be a
[26:15] building permit. It might be the
[26:16] nuisance case, um for instance. They can
[26:18] go in there and see what it was and what
[26:19] the inspector's notes have got on the
[26:21] case as well. So, it's going to be a lot
[26:22] more open to the public. Um so, we won't
[26:25] we don't want errors. We want it right,
[26:27] so when the public's looking at it,
[26:28] they're not going to get frustrated and
[26:29] just walk away from it.
[26:30] >> This this is This is going to sound
[26:31] crazy to you, but actually the process
[26:33] we're going through
[26:35] step by step, item by item, they're asking, "Why are you doing it
[26:39] Why do you do it this way?"
[26:41] Well,
[26:42] maybe we don't have a great reason.
[26:43] Maybe there's a different way we we
[26:45] could do it and we should have been
[26:46] doing it. But, it's painstaking cuz
[26:48] you're going through every single every
[26:50] single code, every single line of um co- of the way in which the
[26:55] software is written and customizing it
[26:57] to us doesn't seem to me like there
[26:59] should have to be that much customizing,
[27:00] you know, because you would think
[27:02] approval of a building permit or
[27:03] whatever is is pretty standard practice,
[27:05] but given the the city the the history
[27:08] of it and all the data that's in there
[27:09] and um
[27:11] the processes that we've followed in the
[27:12] past, it it's it's it's coming becoming
[27:15] clear to us that we what we need to do
[27:18] is just taking a long time and and you
[27:20] know, you can't take away we don't have
[27:21] a big staff, can't take them away from
[27:23] their everyday job at the same time and
[27:26] that's that's the only concern that I
[27:28] would have is that we we we keep doing
[27:30] this while we're doing everything else
[27:31] we're doing as you can see on those
[27:33] weekly reports
[27:35] about how many permits or how many
[27:37] approvals take place or are pending at
[27:39] any given time. We don't want to stop
[27:40] that at the [clears throat] same time.
[27:42] So
[27:42] >> already with the complexity and the
[27:44] length that you're seeing
[27:47] you have a concern
[27:49] I D in anybody's mind, but
[27:51] identified a consultant and advisors
[27:53] that are working on the project with
[27:54] you. Any fear that you're going to come
[27:56] forward with this change order?
[27:59] >> Um that's not the plan. I I'm
[28:02] >> That's the right answer.
[28:02] >> Yeah, I I don't think so.
[28:04] >> [laughter]
[28:05] >> Honestly, I'd be I I'm not a big
[28:07] consultant fan in the first place.
[28:08] [clears throat] I'd make you got experts
[28:09] in place that need to do their job and
[28:11] we we you know, give us the opportunity
[28:12] to do it and we'll do it.
[28:14] >> So briefly real quick Daryl, first of
[28:15] all, um compliment you personally. Your
[28:18] part of your you are a big chunk of
[28:21] grease that is keeping the wheel moving
[28:22] right now when it comes to the the field
[28:25] the the bridge between the field and the
[28:26] permitting. Um but are you getting tired
[28:29] of the phone calls? Of being having to
[28:31] be the grease. So my question to you is
[28:33] and this is respectfully to the people
[28:35] that are there.
[28:35] >> Yeah.
[28:35] >> I feel the residential side of it um
[28:38] that individual is making more decisions
[28:40] and pushing the stuff through. I'm still
[28:42] more concerned on the commercial side of
[28:43] it that we're having to go in there and
[28:45] say, you know, why why do I have to take
[28:48] phone call? Why do you got to take the
[28:49] phone call? Is it Is it a fear of I'm
[28:51] not of
[28:53] You know where I'm going at this fear of
[28:54] I'm not doing my job right or at some
[28:56] point it's like Is this Is this Is this
[28:58] Is that department Is that employee
[29:00] being retrained to a point to say open
[29:01] your mind up and get it to the field.
[29:04] >> Yeah, we're getting we're getting over
[29:05] >> Getting back You're You're pushing it
[29:07] but that's exhausting and I'm not sure
[29:08] that a council member and
[29:11] a department head needs to be involved
[29:13] in
[29:15] >> Yeah.
[29:15] >> You know what I mean? It's a lot of work
[29:16] for you.
[29:16] >> Yeah, I I don't think we're 100% there
[29:18] yet. I mean [clears throat] I'm being
[29:19] very honest with you. I don't think
[29:20] we're 100% there yet I mean obviously
[29:21] but I think we're we're making strides
[29:24] and there's a lot more communication
[29:26] >> Well, I mean there's a lot more
[29:27] communication too that's happening from that from that end as well coming
[29:31] to me and getting to the direction of
[29:33] which direction and and we're we are we
[29:35] are making strides. We're not there yet
[29:37] obviously but we are making progress.
[29:39] >> Thank you but I mean you know where I'm
[29:41] going.
[29:41] >> Absolutely.
[29:42] >> Yeah, but it's at some point it's like
[29:43] hey man, you get it to the field.
[29:44] >> Mhm.
[29:45] >> Okay.
[29:47] >> Yes, my name is Milton Carter.
[29:49] I'd like to ask some some questions.
[29:51] Okay, like uh
[29:52] >> Name, please.
[29:53] >> My name is Milton Carter. I'm from Sioux
[29:55] City. Okay, every time I come to this
[29:58] meeting, y'all always making strides.
[30:00] What y'all about 5% now maybe 10 because
[30:03] know something what y'all talking about
[30:05] now y'all should have been had it done.
[30:08] Okay, why don't you get some little IT
[30:10] students coming up and cook up your
[30:12] computers so you can be back where
[30:15] everybody else at because what y'all
[30:17] doing now y'all milking the kitty.
[30:21] >> Okay.
[30:22] >> See
[30:23] this stuff what you talking about now
[30:25] from last year to now it should have
[30:26] been done.
[30:28] See, but every time y'all come in y'all
[30:30] making strides but the strides ain't
[30:31] making nothing. Y'all ain't telling
[30:33] nobody nothing how the strides ain't
[30:34] made or what going on with the strides
[30:36] or nothing. Y'all just making strides.
[30:39] In your mind you're doing good but out
[30:41] here y'all doing bad.
[30:43] See, because nobody know what you doing.
[30:47] People want to know what you doing.
[30:49] that, we making fire. The weed my
[30:51] weed laying on the standing computer
[30:53] like this and that and another.
[30:55] Get some people in there who understand
[30:56] the computer for you.
[30:58] So, you can do what you got to do.
[31:01] Because what y'all doing now, y'all
[31:02] making the kitty.
[31:06] » And I'll say, I think Marty and Daryl
[31:08] they're
[31:09] very transparent about this process.
[31:12] We've talked about the permitting and
[31:13] the inspection and the oversight and and
[31:16] the direction of this council has been
[31:20] that we want to see modification and
[31:21] process. They already and Daryl and
[31:23] their teams have been very candid, very
[31:26] forthright about progress that they're
[31:27] making. It may be maybe a little bit
[31:30] delayed and I think that's to both of
[31:32] their frustration and their team's
[31:33] frustration as well, but I think they've
[31:35] been very candid and I think we're
[31:36] working towards a good solution.
[31:41] » But still,
[31:43] when they come in,
[31:45] at least put something on the table so
[31:47] everybody can understand that time where
[31:49] they making fire.
[31:51] See?
[31:53] Cuz what they doing now don't make no
[31:55] sense to me. Probably nobody out here
[31:57] don't make no sense to.
[31:58] >> you haven't ever taken out a building
[31:59] permit, it probably doesn't make sense,
[32:01] but it's not a process that happens
[32:03] overnight.
[32:04] >> I know building mid all that take time.
[32:06] It's a process. I know all that.
[32:08] >> it takes time to computerize stuff that
[32:10] hasn't been computerized.
[32:11] >> The thing is, when they come
[32:12] >> I don't think anybody Now, can let me
[32:13] finish. Now, I like to talk.
[32:15] >> Go ahead. My I'm my fault.
[32:17] >> Okay.
[32:18] I don't think anybody sitting here
[32:19] thought this was going to happen in two
[32:21] or three months.
[32:24] Well, they're making progress,
[32:26] especially in the home area. That's a
[32:28] big step.
[32:30] So, you you know,
[32:32] I don't think anybody I'm not involved
[32:35] with it. Rick's involved more than I am,
[32:36] but I don't think there's a
[32:38] disappointment on their part of what how
[32:40] it's happening.
[32:42] And
[32:43] at the end of the day, what we're trying
[32:45] to do is become more user-friendly. You
[32:47] may not like that they don't speak in
[32:50] terms that everybody understands,
[32:52] but unless you had to take out a
[32:53] building permit, you're not going to
[32:55] understand it.
[32:56] >> And I I appreciate what you're saying,
[32:58] sir. We're we're the time that we're
[33:01] trying to improve the process, at the
[33:02] same time we're also working with
[33:04] builders and developers in issuing
[33:06] permits every day and doing what we've
[33:09] always done and trying to ensure safety
[33:11] for the public and for for the homeowner
[33:14] or the property owner and we're still
[33:16] doing all that. At the same time, we're
[33:18] trying to improve the process and and uh
[33:21] long take a long-term view that um
[33:24] Sioux City will be a a great easy place
[33:27] to develop and get a permit, but at the
[33:28] same time we're protecting the public
[33:30] safety and ensuring that the rules are
[33:32] followed. So, uh I I wish it would go
[33:36] faster. We're trying as fast as we can
[33:38] and I appreciate your point of view. I I
[33:39] do. Um I've seen you at a lot of
[33:41] meetings. I know you've been listening
[33:42] to this, so but um we we are at the same
[33:46] time every day doing our job of of
[33:49] people who are reviewing building plans
[33:51] and site plans and all that. It we
[33:53] didn't stop doing that because of this.
[33:55] Let me
[33:56] make sense.
[33:57] >> Okay.
[33:58] >> All right.
[34:00] Thank you.
[34:00] >> Thanks.
[34:00] >> Go to the park.
[34:01] >> Thank you, guys.
[34:02] >> Thanks, guys.
[34:09] » Council members, you should have week 32
[34:11] and 33 would have been the most recent
[34:13] uh information pulled from the HEART
[34:15] team. Uh they continue to do a good job.
[34:17] One of the things I have encouraged them
[34:19] to do, though, is identify frustrations.
[34:22] They've got barriers, but I want them to
[34:25] let me know where they run into barriers
[34:27] so that we can help them remove those
[34:28] barriers. And so, they have a meeting
[34:30] tomorrow. They have a weekly meeting.
[34:33] And if there's anything that you want me
[34:35] to pass on to the heart team the heart
[34:37] group tomorrow's meeting, please let me
[34:39] know.
[34:40] Otherwise, hopefully those discussions
[34:41] will occur. I want them to be effective
[34:43] and as they address barriers,
[34:46] they seek guidance or assistance from us
[34:48] so that they can overcome those
[34:49] barriers. But still remains relevant.
[34:52] Obviously, we know that and we predicted
[34:54] this. We talked about this. That
[34:57] >> [clears throat]
[34:57] >> the change in weather would have a
[34:59] change in issues and we have seen things
[35:02] change a little bit. Cook Park has been
[35:03] a become a bit more of a problem with
[35:06] activity and so we've seen some
[35:08] movement. And the heart team is
[35:10] appropriately identified that and
[35:11] they're working
[35:13] to address that. Obviously, one of the
[35:15] bigger frustrations with cleanups
[35:17] becomes private property. So, that's
[35:19] still an issue is trying to work with
[35:21] private property owners
[35:23] to help with encampment.
[35:26] >> I have one and it's not your fault from
[35:28] what I understand from talking to Daryl.
[35:30] It's the legal department's fault, but
[35:33] even senior
[35:34] >> I think I know what you're saying.
[35:35] >> There's a car been on Market Street now
[35:37] for at least a month and a half.
[35:40] It is so full of garbage.
[35:42] It's garbage over the top. Big bags of
[35:46] cans.
[35:48] If that were in my front yard, you would
[35:50] tag my house.
[35:52] But because it's on a car, our legal
[35:54] department says we can't do anything. If
[35:56] that's the case, an ordinance needs to
[35:58] be written. Drive by
[36:01] It's embarrassing for this city.
[36:04] I've been
[36:05] It's the
[36:05] >> We've We've addressed the occupants.
[36:07] We've tried to deal with it because
[36:08] obviously if it's if it's a vehicle that
[36:10] doesn't move, we can address it that
[36:11] way. Officers have been in contact. They
[36:13] have subsequently moved the vehicles.
[36:17] But you're right, Mayor. We're kind of
[36:19] in a little
[36:19] >> No, man. You wouldn't let me have that
[36:21] in my front yard. That car sitting in my
[36:22] front yard, you would be there telling
[36:24] me to But because he parks it on a
[36:26] public street, makes no sense to me.
[36:29] >> he's moving it every 24 hours.
[36:31] >> care. It's still
[36:32] >> I don't get it.
[36:34] >> No, we're aware of it and I
[36:35] >> I know you are.
[36:36] >> Just off of West
[36:37] >> up to Stevens so he can figure out how
[36:40] to take care of situations like that.
[36:43] Neighbors should not have to live with
[36:44] that in their front yard.
[36:47] So,
[36:48] anything else for Hart?
[36:51] >> Uh Chief, since you're here, I was going
[36:52] to bring this up during or council
[36:54] concerns, but since you're up, Mike, I
[36:57] can I get an update? I sent a memo, an
[36:59] email to you and about seven other
[37:01] people including the chief on
[37:04] visiting about a campus concept to
[37:07] address the homeless and transient
[37:09] population issues, many of which Rick
[37:10] has raised as well. Can I get an update?
[37:13] Doesn't need to be tonight. Can I get an
[37:14] update on the discussions? Jill, I know
[37:17] was part of that. Marty and Renee were
[37:18] part of that.
[37:20] Um and can we just get an update? Thank
[37:21] you.
[37:22] >> No, Chief, you're going to give us the
[37:23] data, too, on the
[37:24] >> Yep, just got it today. So,
[37:26] [clears throat]
[37:27] >> Just counselor, so we I think you I
[37:28] copied everybody. Going to get a the
[37:30] radius data again around
[37:32] Nebraska Street and all that up in
[37:33] there. Just an update on what kind of
[37:35] activities Getting better? If it is,
[37:36] we'll acknowledge it. If it isn't,
[37:39] >> Uh one of the things though, uh I'll I'll caution you depending on how
[37:42] we run the data, we might not have
[37:44] comparative data. So, I haven't had a
[37:46] chance to look at that, but I'll send it
[37:47] to you in its bare form. If crime
[37:49] analysis has any comments for me, I'll
[37:51] provide those to you so you can at least
[37:53] know where they're coming from. We're
[37:54] sometimes limited by what we can draw
[37:58] from our our systems as far as reports,
[38:00] but I as always, they're going to work
[38:02] their tail off for you to get your
[38:04] information. So,
[38:05] >> Thank you.
[38:08] » All right, citizen concerns.
[38:14] » Hello. Um I'm Lilian Rodriguez and I'm
[38:17] here today with Carlos Hurtado and Olga
[38:21] Guevara. And we wanted just to inform
[38:24] you about Mexico in el corazon.
[38:26] It's a folklorical group that we brought
[38:30] last year. And these dancers are from my
[38:32] hometown Guadalajara in Mexico. And they
[38:35] are about 80 dancers and it was a great
[38:38] success. So I'm going to have Carlos to
[38:40] talk a little bit about it and then Olga
[38:42] is going to finish the details.
[38:45] >> Hi.
[38:47] I'm sorry as Lilian mentioned my name is
[38:48] Carlos Hurtado.
[38:50] So Mexico in el corazon is coming back
[38:52] for a second year. It's their 12th year
[38:54] on an international tour.
[38:56] They perform on over 40 cities across
[38:58] the US and Canada.
[39:01] They performed at Mount Rushmore,
[39:03] performed at Millennium Park in Chicago,
[39:07] Times Square in New York. So we're
[39:09] delighted to have them come back this
[39:11] year.
[39:12] Hopefully we can see all of you there on
[39:14] August 30th at 3:00 3:00 in the
[39:16] afternoon. It would be a free event at
[39:17] the Orpheum Theater.
[39:23] » Good afternoon everyone. My name is Olga
[39:24] Guevara and I am the executive director
[39:26] for Unity in Action. We are the host
[39:29] organization for this magnificent event
[39:31] and I'm just going to read our press
[39:32] release here.
[39:33] Unity in Action is proud to welcome the
[39:35] internationally acclaimed Mexico in el
[39:37] corazon 2026 to Sioux City for a free
[39:40] cultural performance at the historic
[39:42] Orpheum Theater Sunday August 30th at
[39:45] 3:00 p.m. As one of the premier cultural
[39:47] exchange initiatives between Mexico and
[39:50] the United States, Mexico in in the
[39:52] heart, Mexico in el corazon will travel
[39:54] to communities across the country
[39:56] throughout August and September. The
[39:58] 2026 tour brings world-class performers
[40:01] and vibrant celebrations of Mexico
[40:04] Mexico's rich artistic and cultural
[40:06] heritage to the Sioux land community.
[40:08] Audiences were
[40:09] will experience an unforgettable
[40:11] afternoon featuring timeless music of
[40:14] legendary Mexican composer Jose Alfredo
[40:16] Jimenez.
[40:17] The production will showcase colorful
[40:19] dances and cultural traditions from the
[40:21] states of Durango and Jalisco. And this
[40:24] highlights
[40:25] the regional heritage of Mexico.
[40:29] In addition to the musical and dance
[40:31] performances, attendees will witness a
[40:33] remarkable demonstration of the Mayan
[40:34] ball game, one of the oldest and most
[40:37] significant cultural traditions of
[40:38] Mesoamerica. This ancestral exhibition
[40:41] offers a unique opportunity to learn
[40:43] about the history, symbolism, and
[40:45] enduring legacy of indigenous
[40:46] civilizations. The event is free and
[40:48] open to the public and community members
[40:51] of all ages and backgrounds are
[40:52] encouraged to attend. Once again,
[40:55] Sunday, August 30th, 3:00 p.m., Orpheum
[40:57] Theatre, and it's, of course, free. So,
[40:59] you all have an invitation. I'm also
[41:01] here to pass our impact report from
[41:03] 2025. Just kind of gives you some stats
[41:05] of what occurred last year with this
[41:07] event. So,
[41:09] Bob, Mayor Scott, thank you for
[41:10] attending last year, and we hope to see
[41:11] you again this year.
[41:13] >> Thank you.
[41:14] Thanks for your presentation. Just a
[41:16] couple of things. Let us know what we
[41:18] can do to help. I know you had a chance
[41:19] to visit with Reagan before the meeting
[41:21] started, and and I think we'd all
[41:23] encourage you to visit with Stacy
[41:25] Anderson and her team at Explore Sioux
[41:26] Land. I think they'll be a a really nice
[41:29] resource for you to do some
[41:30] co-marketing, some co-branding of the
[41:32] city and the event itself. And I look
[41:34] forward to seeing the t-shirt that says
[41:36] New York City Times Square and Chicago
[41:38] Millennium Park and Sioux City Orpheum
[41:40] Theatre.
[41:41] >> Absolutely, we'll be reaching out to
[41:43] her. Thank you so much.
[41:44] >> you.
[41:44] >> Thank you. Good luck.
[41:46] >> And I would add that it's a great show.
[41:49] Having worked
[41:50] with it last year, phenomenal
[41:52] opportunity for Sioux City, and and it's
[41:55] [clears throat] exciting to have it
[41:56] back. And so.
[41:57] >> Yes, thank you.
[41:59] >> Thank you.
[42:06] » Hi, my name is Robin Shiro. I live at
[42:09] 311 East Washington Street in Elk Point.
[42:12] I'm today I'm here because I'm the
[42:13] secretary of the Sioux City Lions Club
[42:16] and I'm asking for your help. Um, I
[42:18] contacted your environmental specialist
[42:22] um, to ask if we could um, go ahead and
[42:25] have a clean up street in Sioux City.
[42:28] Because most of our members are over 65
[42:31] um, on the average and um, not able to
[42:34] do hills and things like that, we um,
[42:37] wanted to see if we could have a street
[42:39] maybe was more level and also that's
[42:43] safe because a lot of them are 65 years
[42:45] old. Some of them are even walkers and
[42:47] probably will help us um, in that case.
[42:50] Um, I want to give you some information.
[43:08] » People have people have wanted wanted
[43:10] >> You had that for 6 months.
[43:12] >> 6 months.
[43:14] >> Get over it.
[43:18] » Thank you.
[43:23] Um, so uh, I've been trying to work with
[43:25] your environmental specialist on this
[43:26] issue because like I stated we need
[43:29] specific requirements. We had asked if
[43:31] the Cheyenne Boulevard might be an
[43:33] issue. We went out and looked in your
[43:35] community and saw that there was no uh,
[43:37] sign on that area and and it seemed like
[43:40] it was a safe area for us and maybe
[43:42] flatter for uh, those of us that need
[43:44] it. And um, but in working with your
[43:47] environmental specialist, she stated
[43:49] that somebody already had that area.
[43:51] What
[43:52] and so we're looking to find an area if
[43:54] it is taken. It didn't have a sign on
[43:56] it. So and it she said maybe it's a
[44:00] church. Usually churches do have signs.
[44:02] So I guess I'm just looking for your
[44:04] help to find an area that might be a
[44:06] safe and flat area for the Lions Club to
[44:09] help.
[44:10] >> That might be the easiest request we
[44:11] have all day.
[44:12] >> Is it?
[44:13] >> Absolutely.
[44:14] >> Well, that's why I knocked your sign
[44:15] over. Sorry.
[44:16] >> [laughter]
[44:18] >> I am familiar with your request for the
[44:20] Cheyenne Boulevard.
[44:21] >> Okay.
[44:22] And if there's just another area
[44:24] >> It is taken and it I believe it was
[44:26] taken by someone who doesn't care to
[44:28] have a sign up to have it made public
[44:30] and I can't say that it's a church, but
[44:32] >> And we can appreciate that. It's just
[44:34] that
[44:35] she's not excited to work with us to
[44:37] find another area.
[44:38] >> Oh, she very much is. She She expressed
[44:41] to me she'll be more than happy to
[44:43] >> Well, when I left my message with her, I that's not what I heard back. So, I
[44:47] guess, you know, I'm looking for your
[44:49] help to encourage her to help us find
[44:51] one.
[44:52] >> I'll follow up with her as well.
[44:53] >> That's a flat one. That's awesome.
[44:55] >> I've already thought of something for
[44:57] you.
[44:57] >> Good. And then, um I just wanted to I
[45:00] know the last time I was here I
[45:01] mentioned about the Pierce Mansion and
[45:03] volunteering for that. And I just want
[45:05] to let you know that, um there's been
[45:07] two issues with the Pierce Mansion since
[45:09] then. Um one of them is we went ahead
[45:12] and worked with I'm a master gardener
[45:14] and I worked with the um Wild Ones to um
[45:18] do their what they consider to be
[45:20] volunteer hours required by the
[45:22] university to keep your continuing
[45:24] education hours for uh master gardener
[45:27] was to have the Wild Ones uh do the uh
[45:30] landscaping there and and pruning of
[45:32] trees and shrubs and I know that they're
[45:35] um
[45:36] they're uh what they consider to be They do things different. We should do
[45:40] things in certain forms to keep them so
[45:42] that they grow and they have more light
[45:44] and different things. And so, um I
[45:47] scheduled it with um I had talked to
[45:49] everybody that's our volunteers there
[45:51] and I scheduled it with the Wild Ones
[45:54] and then somebody at the Pierce Mansion
[45:56] canceled it. So, since I was here, I
[45:59] worried that maybe it's because I made a
[46:02] comment and wanted your help that maybe
[46:03] they were now discouraging things like
[46:06] that. I no longer receive the emails as
[46:09] a volunteer since I spoke here. So, I'm
[46:11] wondering is this like a whistleblower
[46:13] thing that when somebody comes forward
[46:16] to your city council that then they are
[46:18] taken off the volunteer list because
[46:20] they wanted your help? I mean, that's
[46:23] what it feels like to me in both those
[46:24] areas. So, if you could check into
[46:26] those, that would be greatly
[46:27] appreciated. Thank you for your time.
[46:30] Again, since I was a county
[46:31] commissioner, I appreciate all that you
[46:32] do. Thank you.
[46:33] >> Thank Thanks, Robin.
[46:36] Anyone else?
[46:43] » Good evening, Council, Mayor.
[46:46] Uh my name is Jeremy Harrison. I I serve
[46:48] as president of the New Susu City
[46:51] Community Development Initiative.
[46:53] And um over the past several days, um I
[46:57] have been speaking directly with
[46:58] residents uh throughout our community on
[47:01] the north side, west side, uh
[47:03] Morningside area. And I've been asking
[47:06] them a simple question.
[47:08] Um I've been asking them as the city
[47:10] moves forward with the process of
[47:12] selecting the new police chief, uh do
[47:15] you believe that the citizens should
[47:16] have an opportunity to provide input
[47:19] before that decision is finalized?
[47:22] And the responses that I received from
[47:24] those conversations that I had are what
[47:26] I would like to share with you this
[47:28] evening.
[47:29] So, the first thing that I found that
[47:31] was surprising to me is I had asked
[47:33] people whether
[47:34] uh they would like to have a more
[47:36] aggressive uh police force here. And
[47:39] with that question, uh this city is
[47:41] actually genuinely split.
[47:44] Um 38% of the people said yes, and 40%
[47:48] of the people said no.
[47:49] And 22% said only in specific uh
[47:52] specific areas or specific situations.
[47:56] You know, there's no clear uh preference
[47:58] for one approach over the other.
[48:01] You know, the city is divided and
[48:03] divided almost exactly down the middle.
[48:06] So, if residents themselves aren't
[48:09] unified on tactics,
[48:11] uh that raises the obvious question, who
[48:13] should decide?
[48:15] And that's where the third question I
[48:16] asked becomes the whole point of
[48:18] standing here today.
[48:20] I asked the citizens,
[48:23] "Would you support a public engagement
[48:25] process before the next chief is
[48:27] actually hired for Sioux City?"
[48:29] And 98% of those citizens that I spoke
[48:31] to said, "Yes."
[48:33] 98% of the people who took the time to
[48:36] listen to what I had to say and actually
[48:38] sign on to my petition
[48:40] um are telling this council the same
[48:42] thing in one voice.
[48:45] That we don't need you to guess what we
[48:47] want.
[48:48] Just ask us.
[48:50] So,
[48:52] uh when I asked residents what they
[48:53] actually cared about, violent crime came
[48:56] up the most, uh followed by
[48:58] homelessness, uh community relations was
[49:01] next, and then mental health in that
[49:03] order.
[49:04] It was not one issue, but a cluster of
[49:06] issues that point to a chief who can
[49:09] hold enforcement and social services
[49:11] together at the same time, not one or
[49:14] the other.
[49:15] So, here's my request.
[49:17] Before the council and city manager uh
[49:19] finalize a decision on the next chief of
[49:21] police,
[49:22] um I respectfully request that the
[49:23] council conduct a formal public
[49:25] engagement process.
[49:27] It could be a city-wide survey,
[49:29] uh open forum, whatever format that you
[49:31] guys choose.
[49:33] So, that the direction of this
[49:34] department reflects the priorities of
[49:36] the people it serves.
[49:38] Um it's not a request to tie the
[49:39] council's hands on who gets hired. It's
[49:41] just a request to make sure that whoever
[49:43] gets hired is hired with the community's
[49:46] voice already in the room.
[49:48] Uh the petition has shown that there is
[49:50] actually real citizen interest in having
[49:52] their input considered.
[49:54] And if this council commits to that
[49:56] process,
[49:57] I believe hundreds more across the city
[50:00] will say the same thing. Thank you.
[50:02] >> Thank you.
[50:02] >> Can I ask how many people you surveyed?
[50:05] >> I got up to I think it was 53.
[50:08] Yeah, it was a short process. I had like
[50:10] four days. I wanted to try to get it
[50:11] done as soon as possible, but
[50:13] >> I think a public survey is not a bad
[50:15] idea. We can, you know, discuss it and
[50:18] I think we may have time to be able to
[50:20] put something like that together that
[50:21] people can easily just do it from their
[50:23] home cuz a lot of times they can't get
[50:25] here or they don't have time or they're
[50:27] working or whatever. And a lot of times
[50:29] just being able to answer a survey
[50:30] questionnaire on your phone or from your
[50:32] PC or your tablet will work a lot
[50:34] better.
[50:35] >> That's perfect.
[50:36] >> Jeremy, I've I've got I'm sorry.
[50:38] I had a quick question
[50:40] or comment and a question.
[50:41] Mike, isn't there a community input
[50:44] aspect to the hiring phases?
[50:46] >> There is. We're intending to have
[50:49] individuals on a community panel that
[50:50] represent different demographics and
[50:52] populations of the community. Just that
[50:55] have been community leaders
[50:56] we know we will go to as part of the
[50:58] process as well.
[50:59] >> Okay. Awesome.
[51:00] >> And my question is can you give me a
[51:02] little bit of background who who who or
[51:04] what is the new Sioux City Development
[51:06] Initiative?
[51:06] >> Yes, of course. So, the organization
[51:09] just focus on research and advocacy
[51:11] community issues economic development
[51:15] just trying to
[51:17] look for ways and opportunities that we
[51:19] can help Sioux City grow and
[51:23] just take advantage of opportunities
[51:25] that we have to make Sioux City better.
[51:27] >> Thank you.
[51:28] >> Jeremy, was it Jeremy, is it safe to say
[51:30] that
[51:31] what you've seen here in the last few
[51:32] months though, this isn't a reflection
[51:34] of any other kind, that this this
[51:35] council that all five of us are
[51:37] extremely transparent in this process.
[51:39] The people the conversations that we're
[51:40] having sometimes painful, sometimes not.
[51:42] And even at the beginning of this
[51:43] process we started to talk Um,
[51:46] the hiring of the chief as I mean I
[51:47] think it's been extremely transparent
[51:49] and inviting feedback um
[51:52] from the public. And I know that the the
[51:54] feedback just walking through Walmart
[51:56] and Menards and everything else has been
[51:58] extremely positive I think to all of us
[52:00] that they appreciate that we're asking
[52:02] for feedback.
[52:03] >> Yes, 100% 100%.
[52:04] >> when you get the feedback, sometimes you
[52:05] got to be careful what you the answer
[52:07] you get.
[52:08] >> Yeah.
[52:08] >> But then maybe it's just I'm a magnet
[52:09] for it, but the feedback I get it's that
[52:11] people are ready they want they they want to feel safe like you
[52:14] said. They they want to be safe in the
[52:16] community. Um, they want to be able to
[52:17] do commerce in this community um freely
[52:19] and safely. So, um it's just it's a
[52:22] great conversation. Thanks for what
[52:23] you're doing.
[52:23] >> There's people that agree with that and
[52:25] there's people on the other side. It's
[52:26] just throughout um you know, me having
[52:28] conversations with people I just seen
[52:30] that the city's kind of really split on
[52:31] that. There's people on both sides. So,
[52:33] um that was just interesting information
[52:35] that I was able to gather and I just
[52:37] felt like I should share it with the
[52:37] council.
[52:38] >> Sure.
[52:39] >> Thank you.
[52:39] >> Yep.
[52:40] >> Appreciate that.
[52:50] » Cindy Hanson.
[52:51] I'm um I wasn't really planning to speak
[52:54] today, but um in regards to the last
[52:56] speaker, I also um thought it might be a
[52:58] good time to remind folks that there are
[53:01] lots of opportunities for city
[53:03] engagement for citizens
[53:05] such as the Civil Service Commission
[53:07] which has two positions currently open.
[53:10] So, you may want to encourage some of
[53:11] your folks to apply for those.
[53:13] And then other city commissions that are
[53:15] great avenues for citizens to provide
[53:18] input into what's happening at the city.
[53:21] The other thing that I wanted to mention
[53:23] um as I drove down from Briarcliff
[53:25] today, I encountered several areas of
[53:27] road construction. And I could complain
[53:29] about that, but I looked at it and I
[53:31] said, I am thankful that you've made the
[53:33] decision to invest in our
[53:34] infrastructure. So, I know those are
[53:36] expensive projects.
[53:38] They make a difference. Thank you for
[53:40] the decisions you're making.
[53:42] >> I always tell people you complain when
[53:44] we tear streets up and you complain
[53:47] when we fix it. Much sooner you complain
[53:49] cuz we're fixing a street than one
[53:51] >> [laughter]
[53:52] >> Right.
[53:54] >> Thank you.
[53:55] >> Thanks, Cindy.
[53:57] >> All right. Rick.
[53:59] >> Quickly.
[54:01] Nice meeting.
[54:03] Uh first, uh Patrick, you still in here?
[54:05] Good job with your communication up on
[54:06] Freemar. Um
[54:08] yeah, I think in the long run it's going
[54:09] to save us some money with all the
[54:10] issues we're having up there. I know I
[54:11] haven't found all the issues yet, but
[54:13] let's stay on that and uh and don't drop
[54:15] the uh the bombs on the the property
[54:17] owners that might have to do some stuff
[54:18] in their own properties. Maybe go up and
[54:20] knock on their door or let them know
[54:21] versus just send them a note that that
[54:23] might buffer a little bit of that to get
[54:24] a little more compliance, but let's stay
[54:26] on that. I I think we're you're you guys
[54:28] are responding and I very appreciate
[54:30] [clears throat] the homeowners and the
[54:31] contractors. So, good job. Uh second, on
[54:35] Jill, I know Jill's not here. She's
[54:36] going to give us an update I think next
[54:37] week on uh I requested that she give us
[54:40] the dollar amount that's been collected
[54:41] year-to-date on those those foolish
[54:43] signs that were put up to don't give it
[54:45] to panhandlers, but send it to a fund.
[54:47] I'd like to have the the balance on that
[54:49] fund and how much money is given
[54:50] annually or monthly or weekly and what's
[54:52] what dollars are left in there. If not,
[54:54] we have the poles. We already paid to
[54:55] put the poles in and I have a concept
[54:57] for another sign we could put on it. Um
[54:59] kind of that reflects uh the bus program
[55:02] that we put in place before. So, she's
[55:03] going to give us an update there next
[55:04] week on that, which is great. Um
[55:07] uh third, on the um the sheriff, you you
[55:12] said you're going to give us the update
[55:12] on the sheriff. Where are you at with
[55:14] that? Uh candidates start tomorrow or
[55:16] police chief starts tomorrow?
[55:17] >> Yes.
[55:18] >> That's a cool cool deal.
[55:19] >> I'm meeting with the panel tonight after
[55:20] this meeting and then assessments are
[55:22] Tuesday, Wednesday. Um and then we'll
[55:24] have a list next week.
[55:26] >> And then on the bus route thing, I I
[55:27] requested that Sheriff Sheahan, that's
[55:29] where I said Sheriff Sheahan, give us
[55:31] don't just come up here and tell us you
[55:32] need a route. Tell us what you
[55:34] specifically need. I I know if you saw
[55:35] that email that I sent over. He he
[55:36] actually put together a bus schedule. I
[55:38] said, you know, don't just bark at us,
[55:39] give us a schedule. And he And I To his
[55:41] credit, he did. He put a schedule what
[55:43] he thinks it would that would that we we
[55:44] would need for that loop through there.
[55:46] So, thank you to Sheriff Sheehan for
[55:47] that. And uh we will evaluate that and
[55:50] see if it works.
[55:51] Um and then
[55:53] on the uh the railroad, I don't know if
[55:55] we have any contact with the railroad,
[55:56] but is it just me or we're really
[55:59] demanding a lot of our citizens to get
[56:01] the grass off the curbs and all these
[56:02] things? And I think our citizens are
[56:03] stepping up and doing it. And the
[56:05] railroad right now looks like the wild
[56:07] west with the with the weeds and stuff.
[56:09] And I know they're the all-powerful
[56:10] railroad, but uh let's let's if we're
[56:12] not afraid to send letters to everybody
[56:14] else, let's send it let's
[56:15] um let's let's kick the railroad a
[56:17] little bit and say they need to clean
[56:18] their act up a little bit along those
[56:19] roads.
[56:21] It's time. It's time.
[56:23] >> They will they mow. Burlington Northern
[56:25] doesn't mow.
[56:26] >> City needs to spray is what they need to
[56:28] do. They need them big old tumbleweeds
[56:29] are just a right on the curbs up 75. And
[56:31] if you go down there,
[56:33] um
[56:33] >> But we can't get to Burlington, but the
[56:35] UP's been busy. They don't mow as often
[56:38] as you mow your yard, but they at least
[56:39] will mow, so that's
[56:41] >> Yeah, it's pretty pretty shady down in
[56:42] our neck of the woods. Um so, that's all
[56:44] I would ask is we give the the a
[56:45] friendly tap to the railroad on that end
[56:47] of it. Um and then uh lastly, I know
[56:50] that uh next week um we're going to get
[56:52] the update from Angle on the wastewater
[56:54] treatment. Julie alluded to that um last
[56:57] week. Um I sat in a meeting with that.
[56:59] Um
[57:00] we left abruptly, and I think we're
[57:02] going to have uh we're going to turn a
[57:04] loss into a win um in the next few weeks
[57:06] when it comes to that
[57:08] uh joke of a response that they gave us
[57:11] um from Kiewit. So, I look forward to
[57:14] that conversation. Um
[57:16] and uh let's have a great week.
[57:19] >> Frank.
[57:19] >> Uh I've got a number of items, but I'll
[57:21] try and go quickly, Mayor. Um first item
[57:23] is the Hamilton Boulevard medians. Is
[57:26] there a CIP to either repair or replace?
[57:29] The medians look very poor.
[57:31] >> There is. It's part of the
[57:33] reconstruction when we were we had a
[57:34] project is
[57:36] for what you're this this year
[57:38] okay part of that one you approved
[57:40] today. Okay.
[57:42] That's 15th to 20th
[57:44] that's not all of it
[57:46] it's a portion.
[57:47] But these meetings will be picked up in
[57:49] a CIP very good.
[57:51] I know we've asked before for the 2026
[57:54] legislative update. I know that staff is
[57:56] still waiting to get some directions
[57:59] encourage to get that was going to ask
[58:01] about the wastewater treatment plant. I
[58:02] know Julie brought it up last week. Rick
[58:04] Rick's update is good. Can I encourage
[58:07] Matt and his team to continue to work on
[58:09] developing activities on the riverfront.
[58:11] I think we need to be much more
[58:12] aggressive. It's it's such a unique
[58:14] opportunity
[58:15] and I think it looks great. I think that I think there's been some good
[58:19] recent clean up but I'd encourage
[58:21] additional use.
[58:22] I already mentioned the issue of the
[58:24] campus concept for the homeless and
[58:26] transient issues.
[58:28] Julie and I had a really helpful meeting
[58:30] last week with Dustin Cooper and Corey
[58:33] Westra on the new arena and some
[58:35] opportunities there Mike I shared those
[58:36] with you and I look forward to
[58:38] continuing that dialogue. I did want to
[58:40] mention a couple weeks ago we didn't
[58:41] have a meeting on a Monday and so the
[58:44] synagogue actually did some volunteer
[58:46] work at the warming shelter had a visit.
[58:48] Had an opportunity to visit with Sheila
[58:50] and it was a it was a really nice
[58:51] evening for us to provide some input but
[58:53] to also engage with some of their
[58:55] residents and their citizens and that
[58:57] was very productive. I know we're
[58:59] supposed to be getting the entertainment
[59:01] district update shortly. So I just
[59:03] encourage you to continue to work with
[59:05] Marty and Renee and find out when Steve
[59:07] Watson's going to get that.
[59:09] Rick thanks for bringing up the route
[59:11] the bus route issue. I did have a chance
[59:12] to talk to Mike about that last week.
[59:14] Hopefully we'll see something soon. Mike
[59:16] and I have a meeting tomorrow on some
[59:17] health care items. I've had a chance
[59:19] over the last two weeks to be visiting
[59:22] with a number of the library board
[59:23] members and I'm encouraged by their
[59:25] input their engagement, and their
[59:26] communication.
[59:31] And then I've also had a number of
[59:32] people that asked me about my my
[59:34] requested a couple months ago to talk
[59:36] about a new branding or marketing
[59:37] campaign. I know Anne had mentioned she
[59:39] just didn't have the time when we
[59:41] visited earlier. Can Can we find out
[59:43] where that stands now, please?
[59:45] And that's it. Thank you.
[59:48] >> Absolutely. As always, again, I just
[59:50] want to thank those that are out there,
[59:52] you know, for our citizens, for your
[59:54] engagement, and and showing up. This is
[59:57] how it happens and what needs to happen.
[59:59] I also, you know, have a few thank yous.
[1:00:01] I want to thank, you know, Mike and
[1:00:02] Patrick for
[1:00:04] cleaning the bag that was hanging on the
[1:00:07] skywalk up, and also getting those wires
[1:00:10] tucked in. I appreciate that. Thank you.
[1:00:12] I feel like I'm becoming the weed guy,
[1:00:15] and when I see weeds, grass, weed.
[1:00:17] >> You might want to clarify [laughter]
[1:00:19] that.
[1:00:20] >> I'm getting contacted for those things,
[1:00:22] and so obviously Mike, I sent you an
[1:00:24] email about that, looking at some of
[1:00:26] those things. I think there are some
[1:00:27] areas that we need to
[1:00:29] really make sure that we we stay on top
[1:00:31] of. Couple things here.
[1:00:33] I had a young lady come in to the coffee
[1:00:35] shop today, and
[1:00:37] she'd moved here from Arizona about six
[1:00:40] or seven months ago, and she chose Sioux
[1:00:43] City, and she said she absolutely loves
[1:00:45] Sioux City, and that was music to my
[1:00:47] ears, and she she just thought that this
[1:00:50] was a phenomenal place, and great place
[1:00:52] to live. Her and her husband, they're
[1:00:53] empty nesters now, and they absolutely
[1:00:56] love it. So, you know, we're doing
[1:00:58] something right, and and and and I just
[1:01:00] want to, you know, let city staff and and city administration know that
[1:01:04] we're doing something right. Let's keep
[1:01:06] doing it right, cuz that's the growth
[1:01:08] that we need, right? And and we're
[1:01:09] looking at, which to that point, I know
[1:01:12] Craig and Julie were both there. It was
[1:01:14] nice to welcome the team USA handball
[1:01:17] committee to town, and
[1:01:19] I love the fact that they're partnering
[1:01:21] with my alma mater, Briar Cliff
[1:01:23] University, Uh and and and those things.
[1:01:26] And man, I didn't realize that handball
[1:01:29] was what it was, right? And
[1:01:31] >> Not handball like used to be.
[1:01:32] >> Right, exactly. [laughter]
[1:01:34] >> Team handball.
[1:01:34] >> Man, it is just yeah, team It is unreal,
[1:01:37] right?
[1:01:38] So, I'm happy and excited that we are
[1:01:40] continuing to get those things
[1:01:44] into Sioux City. Like,
[1:01:45] >> You and I nominated you to play goalie.
[1:01:47] >> I Yeah, you know.
[1:01:49] >> [laughter]
[1:01:50] >> I'll decline respectfully, right? I just
[1:01:53] love the fact that we're we're seeing
[1:01:54] movement, we're moving. This is what,
[1:01:56] you know, we
[1:01:58] were elected to do and and and keep
[1:02:00] Sioux City moving forward and with that.
[1:02:02] So, I'm excited about those things.
[1:02:04] >> Same with mine.
[1:02:05] Well, everybody took everything I was
[1:02:06] going [clears throat] to say. So, you
[1:02:08] guys lucked out today.
[1:02:10] Um watch for adopt-a-street. I'm
[1:02:12] starting a little campaign. I'm going to
[1:02:14] put it on social media, and we need lots
[1:02:16] of families, businesses, churches, civic
[1:02:20] groups, whomever you are, to adopt our
[1:02:23] streets just to do a little extra litter
[1:02:26] pick up, and just to make this city
[1:02:29] very clean, and we want everyone who
[1:02:31] lives here and who passes through to be
[1:02:33] proud. That's all I have.
[1:02:35] >> I got a letter from a lady that was here
[1:02:37] in 1976 telling me how nice the city is.
[1:02:42] I forwarded it to all of you guys. I
[1:02:43] wasn't here last week, and I got to tell
[1:02:45] you I didn't miss you one bit. It was
[1:02:47] >> [laughter]
[1:02:48] >> great vacation, but I do want to
[1:02:51] congratulate Mitchell Betsworth, who
[1:02:54] once again
[1:02:55] did everything he had to do in the gold
[1:02:58] and got four gold medals in the Special
[1:03:00] Olympics. Unbelievable.
[1:03:01] >> Hometown hero.
[1:03:02] Want to congratulate
[1:03:05] Caleb Le Favor for being drafted in
[1:03:07] number 10th round, 304, I think it was.
[1:03:10] That's a
[1:03:12] I almost hope he goes to Iowa, even
[1:03:14] though I'm an Iowa State fan, but uh
[1:03:16] whatever he chooses, God bless him. I
[1:03:18] hope he does well.
[1:03:19] And we want to wish Heelan softball,
[1:03:21] baseball, and East baseball, I think
[1:03:23] they're the only ones left, but wish
[1:03:25] them luck.
[1:03:26] >> The men are playing tonight in Sergeant
[1:03:27] Bluff.
[1:03:28] >> They got a big week tonight or this
[1:03:30] year.
[1:03:30] >> Fort Dodge tomorrow.
[1:03:31] >> Yep. Move with a germ.
[1:03:33] >> Second.
[1:03:40] » Dodd.
[1:03:40] >> I know.
[1:03:41] I. I.
[1:03:42] >> Bernstein.
[1:03:43] >> I hear because they're
[1:03:44] >> Bertrand.
[1:03:45] >> I.
[1:03:45] >> Rayford.
[1:03:46] >> I.
[1:03:47] >> Stainer.
[1:03:47] >> I. And East is playing here at home.