[2:57] Hello. Um, I've been asked to make sure
that you stay muted during the meeting.
[3:01] If you want to speak, you need to raise
your hand. Um, something about feedback.
[3:07] » Okay, I'm drawing online.
[3:23] Yeah, I'm online's
[3:29] here.
[10:12] I can't hear anyone either, Ailen.
[10:19] » So,
do you think they're just not started
[10:22] yet?
[10:26] » Yeah, I think that they are muted.
They're still muted. So, I'm not sure.
[10:32] It's happening.
>> Yeah. Well, as long as they remember to
[10:37] unmute the mute when they
>> Yeah. So, if not, we'll try to get a
[10:43] message to them. Well, they just
unmuted.
[10:45] » We We still don't have everybody here
yet, so give it a couple minutes. Okay.
[10:50] » I'm not panicking. I just thought it
might be some technological glitch.
[13:11] Go ahead and try everything on and all
right.
[13:18] There you go. We can see everybody now
the way I should close the chat.
[13:25] I'm
>> too annoyed.
[13:30] So, they've been asked to stay muted
unless um they are going to speak um
[13:35] just because there might be some
feedback.
[13:40] » Okay. All right. Well,
>> one second. I'm actually going to stop
[13:44] us for one second. I'm having technical
issues. Oh.
[16:46] Okay. So, we're having some problems
with the live stream. Um, for whatever
[16:50] reason, it's not connecting. Um, so we
can go ahead and start the meeting and
[16:54] then if Chris comes to try and fix it
because I couldn't get a hold of him. If
[16:57] he comes to try and fix it, maybe we'll
print the break.
[17:01] Sound good?
So you guys don't have to be unmuted for
[17:05] this part because I'm not worried about
echoing if there's no video feed.
[17:14] » I'll leave it to Darling to say call us
to order.
[17:18] » Okay.
>> Hi. Um [clears throat]
[17:22] this is the uh Municipal Truth and
Reconciliation Committee meeting for
[17:27] Tuesday, January the 20th at 11:00.
Um, welcome everybody. And online we
[17:34] have Joan Costco, counselor Joan Costco.
And we also have Ailenart
[17:41] from the um, uh, truth and
reconciliation committee member and
[17:46] she's with the United Church. But
anyway, and then in the room here is
[17:52] Naomi and u, for what's your name?
Michelle. Michelle.
[17:57] Michelle. Yeah. And our
[18:01] Are we on the
>> We're on or
[18:05] » No, we're not on. We'll be up in try.
>> Okay. And then our support staff. So,
[18:10] the two support staff uh the other
members couldn't um Brent couldn't make
[18:16] it. So, okay. So, we call the meeting to
order now. And uh number two, the land
[18:23] acknowledgement. Did anybody want to
read out? I will.
[18:35] Monday.
[18:41] As we start our meeting, we acknowledge
we are on the traditional territory of
[18:45] Lak Soul First Nation Obiski Goan within
treaty 3 and that many of the people and
[18:49] communities that we serve in Sul
Lookout, traditionally known as Wan
[18:53] Kwagon,
meaning Bay of Sandy beaches, come from
[18:58] treaties five and nine of the Inishnab
nation.
[19:02] » Thank you.
Okay. Number three, the agenda 3A,
[19:08] introduction of amendments to the
agenda.
[19:13] comments. Okay. 3B, confirmation of the
agenda. We need a mover and a second
[19:22] move. Eileen and Michelle.
[19:29] Thank you. Uh all all in agreement.
Yeah. Sh.
[19:35] Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
So we shall move on to number four
[19:40] declarations of pecuniary interest
there are none.
[19:48] So
number five now [laughter]
[19:54] » what was that?
>> I don't know what that means but if
[19:57] » we're talking about anything that you
might have financial interest in you
[20:00] have to take yourself out of the
conversation and and I don't have voting
[20:02] ability at that point.
>> Okay. All right. That's fine. Okay.
[20:08] Number five, the adoption of the minutes
uh from December 9th, 2005. And
[20:13] everybody was either given or sent them
and I reviewed them. They look fine.
[20:21] We need a mover.
Joan moves.
[20:28] » Second. You weren't here.
>> Yeah. I wasn't there either.
[20:34] » You came in late,
>> right?
[20:36] » Mhm. Did I only
>> because Bren asked me if I if I
[20:42] » if you would take over yet.
>> Okay. Sorry. I'll second it.
[20:49] [clears throat]
[20:53] It just seemed like it just
>> It was right there, right?
[20:57] » Yeah.
>> Okay. So, all in favor? Yes.
[21:04] Yep. All right.
And number six, business arising from
[21:08] the meds
[21:14] start updates that's in there update.
>> We'll probably talk about everything
[21:19] that anyway.
>> Thank you, Megan, for the updated work
[21:22] plan.
>> I go to council tomorrow.
[21:26] » Yep. That's why I'm glad you're having
our meeting.
[21:28] » Yes.
>> Okay.
[21:32] Yep. So, we'll move on to number seven
now. delegations, presentations, and
[21:36] committee presentations.
Around there are none. So
[21:44] we'll move on to number eight. Uh items
for discussions.
[21:48] So the first one is number one ga gala
viability concerns.
[21:55] Would like [clears throat]
[21:58] a few of us. So, I I sent the email that
I that I sent explaining that I had
[22:04] concerns that this is very very close.
>> Yeah.
[22:07] » Um and that some things had not yet
happened. Um and I know that Naomi
[22:12] responded that she had similar concerns.
>> Um so maybe she should actually
[22:16] » I I have no problem.
>> Yeah. Okay.
[22:18] » Bringing them to rise. I mean like
they're discussion pieces so we're good.
[22:23] » Should we talk about what we do have in
place?
[22:26] » That will be addressed definitely. Oh.
[22:32] Are we are we are we going into
discussion right now? Yeah.
[22:35] » I thought we were still going through
agenda. My bad.
[22:38] » Okay.
>> All right. So,
[22:41] » number one. So, Gala viability concerns.
Um I I had voiced my concerns in the
[22:47] email that just stated like we have a a
tight timeline to be able to do this. I
[22:52] understand uh that we already have the
venue, those relationships and and uh
[22:58] opportunities to work with people in
community. So, we're not negating the
[23:02] efforts that have been done and uh
already been put in fa place. Um as a
[23:08] group, Brent, myself, and Darlene met,
and we were able to go through some of
[23:12] the nomination criteria, which we did
give in a handout, which uh I know you
[23:17] ladies don't have online, so I'll read
it out for you. and it is just a letter
[23:22] and also then uh developing a nomination
criteria form. So I'll just read says
[23:29] the municipality of Sulakout's truth and
reconciliation committee will be hosting
[23:33] a gala to honor celebrate people and
organizations who initiate or foster
[23:37] unity and achievements towards
reconciliation. That's not in there.
[23:41] This initial gala event is an
opportunity to nominate someone from the
[23:45] community that has been identified to
have or promoted awareness,
[23:49] strengthened, support or driven change
towards reconciliation and community. As
[23:54] we begin to identify and seek out ideas
and criteria, we welcome insight for
[23:58] future for the future. And that is kind
of more or less there to identify if
[24:03] there's another kind of theme or award
that we want to be given. Our initial
[24:08] gallow will be to honor and acknowledge
those in community who are change makers
[24:12] and to further build upon a good
foundation towards future opportunities
[24:16] to be living, promoting, and working
with each other. This year's nominations
[24:20] will be nine categories with 10 distinct
awards. Now, youth 5 to 17. This award
[24:26] is to recognize a youth for their
initiative and role modeling and/or
[24:29] leadership values that support
reconciliation. Young adult 18 to 29.
[24:34] This award is to recognize a young adult
for their initiative and role modeling
[24:38] and/or leadership values that support
reconciliation
[24:41] education as an individual. This award
is to recognize an individual that
[24:45] fosters a fundamental role in sharing
education awareness or creating
[24:49] opportunities for other to
reconciliation
[24:54] corporation or private sector. And this
award is to recognize a group by a
[24:58] corporation and or private sector
organization that shows action and
[25:02] commitment to reconciliation.
Nonforprofit. Another group award. This
[25:07] award is to recognize group leadership
by a corporation and or private sector
[25:11] organization that shows action and
commitment to reconciliation. Advocacy.
[25:16] And our terms for advocacy were along
the resiliency, a survivor,
[25:22] [clears throat]
um a knowledge keeper that that has gone
[25:27] through this. So this award is to
recognize historical resiliency and
[25:32] advocacy towards the commitment of
reconciliation sports. This award is to
[25:37] recognize the achievements of an
individual that engages education
[25:42] that engages educates aware provides
awareness and shares a commitment
[25:47] towards reconciliation through their
activity. I hope somebody's taking these
[25:53] down cuz there's a few edits [laughter]
and engages in education awareness and
[25:58] shares equipment.
>> Migr [laughter]
[26:01] arts, music, and entertainment. This
award is to recognize the achievements
[26:05] of an individual that engages in
education, awareness and shares a
[26:10] commitment towards reconciliation.
Uh we have two awards for elders or
[26:15] knowledge keepers. This award is to
recognize the achievement of a elder or
[26:19] a knowledge keeper that continues to
educate, bring awareness, support and
[26:22] mentoring for future generations.
Working with the community partners, we
[26:26] hope to see your nomination. Please send
a complete nomination form to email and
[26:30] then we give up on
>> Yes. Oh, and we and we put March 31st as
[26:35] our uh designated date. [clears throat]
So,
[26:40] again, going back to some of the time
constraints
[26:44] uh and the opportunity to promote this,
we need to find out what our aggressive
[26:52] um
>> We're going to get things out there
[26:56] fast.
>> Yeah.
[26:58] Because like even like if I complete
this by this week, this week like
[27:03] Friday, whatever. I got to give myself a
timeline too. So if we complete it by
[27:08] this Friday, um that is now the end of
January and that is a month and
[27:14] [clears throat] a half, two months to
get nominations out there, make sure the
[27:17] word's out there, uh build up some of
that buzz around it. I know we have some
[27:23] concerns with the Facebook page because
we're not sure what we can share on
[27:28] there. Um, are we as a truth and
reconciliation committee able to put
[27:33] something in the newspaper where we
don't have the funds right now? Like
[27:37] there were some constraints. We have
been able to through the sponsorship of
[27:41] the program get one sponsor right now
and I think we have a budget of anywhere
[27:47] from 10 to 12,000. I'm I'm going to
wager. Uh so those were some of my
[27:53] concerns as to why I and again there's
nothing wrong with pushing things back.
[27:57] It's just if we are going to be moving
things ahead, we have to have like a
[28:02] very distinct timeline on what's going
to happen. And we don't have to make it
[28:06] big at first. It can be it can be
something that blossoms, but we just
[28:10] need to be able to see how um what those
initial
[28:15] uh things are. So we we're looking at
the awards. We now have these distinct
[28:20] 10 awards. Uh we've talked previously
about in in in people who are invited as
[28:27] well as sorry and people who have uh
been nominated their families and then a
[28:32] 100 person capacity. So
>> my concern with this year is if you
[28:37] don't have them until March back and you
don't choose people, you can't
[28:42] personalize the rewards. We don't I mean
that's something we talked about having
[28:45] something carved specifically for
people. Would we not to be identifying
[28:51] who they are and what they were
nominated for? There's not going to be
[28:54] time for that
>> unless you do placards which again still
[28:57] takes time because you could go through
Dryen or Winnipeg or Thunder Bay and and
[29:02] again the these are like we have pieces
in place.
[29:06] » So the discussion really is about like
the timeline. It is it is aggressive and
[29:11] I don't know. Um I said I'd be working
on this over the weekend and I got
[29:15] sidelined with a few other things. So
like we're all volunteers here. We need
[29:20] to like look at our our uh support
staff. We need to look at those people
[29:25] who are volunteer also the people who
are able to participate their schedule
[29:30] and and and that's why I'm saying I'm
not against having it but like either we
[29:34] bring it way down
or
[29:40] or we or we go with it and we just see
what happens and that's
[29:45] » Go ahead.
>> I'm sort of of the mindset that we have
[29:49] to go with it because we don't because
we were going to do it last year. We
[29:52] pushed it ahead if we and to coordinate
the four to get the caterer, the event,
[29:59] the MC and the keynote speaker on the
same day took a lot of you know um
[30:06] wrangling and we've done that. So when I
return from vacation next week, which is
[30:11] on on Sunday, I'm planning on and once
now that we know how many awards we
[30:18] have, I'm very confident that we can get
award sponsor and I'm going to try to
[30:22] choose each thing and get people to
sponsor. So we already have like the
[30:27] venue, the MC, the keynote speaker, um
the caterer, we have the the venue is
[30:35] donated. So, um, for our finances, we,
in my mind, we have the $2,000 from the
[30:42] Truth and Reconciliation Committee. We
have the $5,000 from Laxul. We have the
[30:46] ticket sales, which let's say is another
th uh $1,000. So, we're already at
[30:50] $8,000. So, we really only need
sponsorship for 5,000, which I'm
[30:55] confident that the end of next week
we'll have that.
[30:59] » I I agree. I feel, too.
>> I'm I'm not worried about that.
[31:03] [clears throat] So, I already know who
the people that I'm going to talk to. I
[31:06] just needed to know how many and we have
Jesse Fidler already in place willing to
[31:11] do the carvings of the of the feathers
as the award. He's committed to that. We
[31:15] just need to let him know we need 10
now. Um, and then like you said to get
[31:20] the plaques. The hard part will be once
we get the nominees is to do the
[31:25] personalization in the we'll have three
we'll have three weeks. So, um I think
[31:32] we need to partner with a couple people
like for set up and to do the actual
[31:36] physical work. Um we all we already have
like for the caterers I got um
[31:43] accommodations donated for the out of
town chefs already. Um you know I'm
[31:48] going to try we have to have our own
servers. So I'm going to contact the
[31:53] girl guides and see if they'll serve. We
already have someone who's agreed to run
[31:56] the mocktails bar. So, we have a lot of
stuff in place. So, I think it's just a
[32:03] matter of, you know, um
I think we can pull it together in
[32:09] because we have all of you know, one
week left in January, February, March,
[32:14] and three weeks in April. So, we have 12
weeks. So, and I'm sort of committing to
[32:21] work at on this sort of full-time for a
couple of weeks to make sure we're where
[32:25] we need to be.
>> That's good, buddy. You got the
[32:28] commitment.
>> Yeah.
[32:32] » So, I I think we should just plow ahead
and just hope for the best.
[32:39] » I guess we need to get the uh
sponsorship letters out almost right
[32:43] away.
>> Yeah. My vision on that was just to go
[32:46] actually handd deliver them and speak to
people.
[32:49] » Okay.
>> So that's sort of the plan next week.
[32:52] » Yeah.
>> The press release should be written up
[32:58] for um uh to let people know that that
this will be happening. something should
[33:02] be sent out to I don't know CKDR
uh Sue Bulletin
[33:09] newspaper the local area
um press
[33:15] I think WASA has a radio station as well
so
[33:20] » and WA was excited about doing anything
that they can to help support any of the
[33:25] events they were excited that I was on
the committee and and they're like
[33:28] report back we'll we'll do what we can
let us
[33:32] And then for the uh bags, I guess for
the the um gift bags or or the um what
[33:40] do you call those uh bags that everybody
gets?
[33:44] » Swag bags.
>> Ah,
[33:46] » swag bags.
>> Yeah, the swag bags.
[33:50] So, that stuff would need to be ordered.
I think those are some of the things
[33:54] that need to be done almost right away
within the next week. Well, hopefully
[33:58] that'll work out. Um,
[34:04] what else?
>> I do have a question, Joan. Sorry. Um,
[34:08] you said that like there was funding
that was going to be coming out of truth
[34:12] and reconciliation
and that kind of came to 8,000. So, we
[34:16] got the five that was donated in the
sponsorship from the one letter
[34:21] » and the two like our committee has
$2,500. So, we have to do a motion to
[34:27] say that we're going to spend two of it
on this gala and then if we
[34:31] » that could be just in principle, right?
Because if there are additional
[34:35] sponsorships like
>> Yes. Yes. That's just if we need it. If
[34:39] we don't need it, if there's money left
over um you know, we could forward it to
[34:44] our our garden project, right? So
hopefully we'll get we'll have
[34:48] sponsorships, but in the meantime until
we get that money, we we pro we may have
[34:53] to allocate some of our own money,
right?
[34:58] » And and that budget was discussed of
2,000 from this committee.
[35:01] » No, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying
we need to do a motion today.
[35:06] » Okay. So then it's it's actually not a
basis, but it is a place for discussion,
[35:11] » but it like we haven't discussed that
cuz I was like, what? I don't remember
[35:14] that. No, but we did discuss like we put
in our work plan that this is what we're
[35:19] going to do with this money. So, um
because we have the $2,500 and we need
[35:24] we would need a little bit of money to
run the summer events, but other than
[35:28] that,
um you know, we don't the money could be
[35:33] allocated to this event.
[35:37] » Thank you.
>> I thought some of the money was supposed
[35:39] to go toward the purchasing of the
garden itself. Mhm. That's that's why I
[35:44] said I we haven't had the full
discussion on where the funds are going
[35:47] to be disseminated. So,
>> it was it was just brought up in your
[35:52] your your conversation just now. So,
that's why I was just asking cuz I'm
[35:55] like I I wasn't sure if that was the
conversation we had. Um there is one
[36:00] thing for the
work plan when we get to it. Maybe we
[36:04] just need to add like a dollar amount
for what we'd like to budget to it just
[36:09] so that we kind of see
>> add that for ourselves. This is the
[36:13] version that's going to council tonight
or tomorrow.
[36:15] » Okay. Yeah. For our
>> for ourselves.
[36:18] » Thank you. Just so we have another one.
That way you can see where your
[36:20] allocated funds are going.
>> And I don't think that we have to do a
[36:26] motion every time we spend money. Right.
>> No, but we have to at least have a plan.
[36:31] Yes. Yes, there has to be a motion to
spend money
[36:34] » there by council. It does.
>> Yes, I have to have direction to spend
[36:37] money.
>> So, there has to be a motion to spend
[36:39] money, I guess.
>> Okay.
[36:45] » So, other than that, then the tight
timelines and and if you're if you're
[36:50] confident with the 12 weeks, I mean,
like we can give it a go. Definitely.
[36:54] Yeah,
>> I just needed to ensure that we were
[36:56] aware that there were some um timelines
because even though we have like the
[37:02] logistics, we don't necessarily had we
didn't have up until last week
[37:08] » a lot of detail. So, I mean for me it
was kind of like the cart before the
[37:12] horse. So, uh like
>> but
[37:14] » I find that too like as I was like
talking to people and I I didn't have
[37:19] like full details yet of really what's
going on, they're like, "Okay, well, can
[37:22] you still do a presentation for us?" So
like Slam, we I I had approached them
[37:26] and talked about maybe having like um
>> a market before so that we're selling
[37:30] indigenous artists,
>> you know, prayers and stuff like that.
[37:34] And then and so they they just want to
know some more information and what this
[37:37] is all about. And I don't know if that's
going to come out in like, you know, a
[37:41] letter like some of these things like
what the, you know, I could take some
[37:44] stuff together and do that or if it's in
a letter, um, like the letter that we're
[37:49] handing out to businesses if it's going
to all be in there and I just bring that
[37:53] and talk. I don't know if there's other
ways that we want to do a presentation
[37:56] for SLAM. Um,
>> and everyone else too and
[38:00] » everyone else for Yeah. like how great
we want to approach them with like this
[38:04] is what we're doing, this is why
>> what are you able to do with this?
[38:08] » Um, and then also
>> one other thing I did want to discuss
[38:12] today too is we've got options with
Nadia being our keynote speaker. We have
[38:19] » MC
>> No, Nadia's going to be the the keynote
[38:22] speaker and the MC have approached
Elliot Dader win. Um, he still also
[38:29] wants some more information and I've
given him tobacco and I'm holding it
[38:33] until we have more information and he'll
accept. Um, so with Nadia like there's
[38:38] there's different ways that she can do
her her talk and it can be
[38:44] art based. It could be based on like her
documentary my students for granny or
[38:48] different art that she's done and she
can she can speak through truth and
[38:52] reconciliation through her art or she
can do it as um you know like a workshop
[38:58] and and people understand it in a
different way through her her workshops.
[39:02] I have her resume here today too. It's
just it's four pages long with all the
[39:06] different ways that she can kind of
bring bring it together. So, if we want
[39:10] to if we want to talk with her, I can
also um arrange to have her zoom into a
[39:18] one of our meetings if we want to just
see how we want to make that happen.
[39:24] » That could possibly be on a subcommittee
meeting.
[39:28] » Yeah.
>> Unless through unless through the
[39:30] municipality she wants to do a
presentation because then that would
[39:34] fall within what we could do during a
meeting. But if it's to like more or
[39:37] less have a an idea of what she's going
to speak about, I'd let her do that with
[39:42] the committee.
>> Okay. I think the reality is because I
[39:45] talked to Brian about this is that we
almost have to just do a motion to
[39:49] approve that we're going to spend
certain amount of money of our
[39:54] committee's money towards this and
everything else is going to have to be
[39:56] done in subcommittee because like
Michelle just said like you're talking
[40:01] to people you're moving forward and the
the reality is when you you're doing a
[40:06] first event that's never been done
before.
[40:09] » Yeah. um like when we're out there
talking to people, we don't have
[40:14] everything secured. We don't know what
it's going to be like. We have visions.
[40:18] We all have visions that are going to be
pulled together and uh you know, as
[40:23] things come up, we're going to address
them and we're going to figure them out
[40:26] and we're going to you know, pull
everything together. But we but it's I
[40:32] like Darlene's idea of doing a press
release of maybe, you know, work if
[40:36] Brent will work with us and as a
communications officer, you know, and to
[40:41] figure out what we need to get out there
and if we can work with him to do that,
[40:45] that would be fantastic. Get that
information out.
[40:49] » So that would include like the different
nomination categories and we can send
[40:53] that out to everybody as well, right?
And
[40:56] » yeah.
Yeah. Like one of the key things that we
[41:01] needed were those nominations. So now
that we have the nominations, then we
[41:04] can move forward. Right.
[41:09] » Sorry to interrupt. What was theme
again?
[41:11] » I didn't put in the letter.
>> Yeah, we
[41:14] » we still don't have a theme.
>> Theme.
[41:16] » So like even though we sent out the uh
>> the monkey, the survey monkey,
[41:21] [clears throat] we still don't have a
actual land on a theme. So like
[41:27] » again,
>> yeah. like what happened with the like
[41:30] what what was the result of the survey?
>> There was a lot of trouble with the
[41:34] survey. People did not seem to
understand it and we did not come to a
[41:38] conclusion on that survey.
>> Okay, good to know.
[41:39] » So, I think your best bet would actually
be just to discuss it and choose
[41:43] something.
>> Sounds good.
[41:45] » Because that'll also help like identify.
>> Yeah,
[41:53] » that's the theme. The theme says turtle
on there.
[41:57] Yeah, that was just an idea we had way
back. But when we sent out remember last
[42:01] time we sent out like you really liked
the one that was the resilience one.
[42:05] What was the one that darling you like
that one? What was it called? Does
[42:09] Michelle remember what it was?
>> Sorry. [laughter]
[42:14] » If you turn into your um
>> I don't reference there. All themes are
[42:21] there.
>> Okay. Was it like we remember Beyon
[42:24] reise?
[42:28] » That was mine. I like that one.
[laughter]
[42:33] » Honoring the past, shaping the future.
>> I like that one, too.
[42:37] » Honoring the past, shaping the future.
Yeah, I like that.
[42:39] » That's probably my favorite.
>> Oh, yeah.
[42:41] » And that's why I'm saying I know when we
were talking about it, we we we were all
[42:44] like, "These are so good." Yeah,
>> it should be our like true
[42:49] » but we should land on one today and just
go with it from that list
[42:54] » definitely because that supports our
sponsor letter and it supports our
[42:57] nomination letter. So we we need a name
or a theme. Sorry.
[43:02] » Number seven,
>> you remember we honor we rise.
[43:11] » Seven for you.
>> I I No, I still like number two. What's
[43:15] number [laughter] two, Naomi? Naomi,
what is number two? Read it out.
[43:18] » Honoring the past, shaping the future.
>> Yeah, I like that one, too.
[43:22] » You like that one?
>> Yeah, cuz it's moving forward, right?
[43:25] » Yeah.
>> You guys want to vote on anything or is
[43:29] there anything?
[43:34] » You're muted.
>> Yeah,
[43:36] » can't hear you.
>> I I'm unmuted now. Um, yeah. I I like um
[43:42] Yeah, I like the what was it? Honoring
the past, shaping the future. I like
[43:47] that one.
>> Okay, let's go with that one then.
[43:49] » Okay.
>> Yeah.
[43:50] » Want to vote?
>> Yeah, that's fine. [laughter]
[43:54] » One, two, three, four, and five. Okay.
>> So, that's that is it. I know that shape
[44:00] in the future.
>> Yeah, I like that.
[44:01] » Wonder if that shape in the future.
>> That is our initial one. So that can
[44:05] kind of and we want to keep these themes
for following years because they're
[44:08] really good.
>> Yeah, actually they are
[44:10] » because I I like that because it it it's
not only for First Nations to come
[44:16] together in this truth and
reconciliation, right? And and if it's
[44:19] about just like um we remember, we
honor, we rise, right? It's not bringing
[44:24] that that spirit of together of of
together we move forward, right?
[44:30] Please stop.
>> And I think it actually sounds really
[44:33] good for the first one because then
you're shaping the future even of your
[44:37] gala just to kind of grab that
recognition for next year. Right.
[44:42] » Good job.
[44:46] » You good with that, Joan?
>> Yep. Um Megan, can you send it out in an
[44:51] email so we have the actual writing like
the actual words and we can all know
[44:55] what it is tomorrow morning? [laughter]
Yes, I can do that.
[44:59] » Yeah. And like the other thing that I
think is going to happen at the auction
[45:03] too is we will or at the um gallas we
will have an auction. So those that
[45:09] revenue from the auction I sort of think
that we should use that to the garden
[45:16] » since donate donations of art pieces or
something.
[45:20] » Yeah. Of different things. Yeah. And
even if we just have like, you know, not
[45:24] make it too large, like try to get 12
items, which is not a lot, you know, and
[45:29] then if each item, let's say, sells for
anywhere between$1 and $200,
[45:36] you know, then we we would have $2,400
from that.
[45:42] So, I think we should I really think we
should make the motion to allocate some
[45:46] of our funds from our $2,500 towards the
gala.
[45:53] It's just then we have money that we can
start ordering things right away. We're
[45:57] not waiting for money to come in. We're
not waiting and then we can just replace
[46:00] that money if we make money from the
gala.
[46:09] Do people agree with that?
>> So our fiscal like we're we're already
[46:14] do we go calendar or fiscal?
>> Yeah.
[46:17] » Is our fiscal?
>> Oh yeah. So we're so we're already back
[46:20] at January. We're at 2500 as of now.
>> Okay. Council tomorrow when they approve
[46:24] your budget, you will have $2,500.
>> There you go. I I was I thought it was
[46:28] fiscal like March. March.
Okay.
[46:31] » Well, we might as well spend it all.
>> Yes.
[46:34] We'll support we'll support this.
>> Keep in mind that you have you have
[46:38] potentially rocks to action. You have
the banked bake off. You have other
[46:43] events that you want to make sure that
you do consider. If you spend everything
[46:47] now, there's nothing later.
>> Definitely.
[46:50] » But in reality, like we have never spent
one cent on Rocks for Action. That's all
[46:55] all the stuff has been donated. And
>> those people are no longer with us.
[47:00] Right. You have spent money in Rocks to
Action because you've had honorarium.
[47:03] » Yes. The honorarium. So that's the only
thing we need the money for is the an
[47:08] honorarium for our our guest. And um
>> you spend $2,000. You don't have enough
[47:14] for honorariums for two people. That
that's all I'm saying is just make sure
[47:17] that you're considering that you have
it.
[47:20] » Um
>> Yeah.
[47:22] » Yeah.
>> But we need to know those parameters.
[47:25] » Yeah.
>> Um I would be good to spend up to 1,500
[47:28] in principle. Okay.
>> And and the reason why I put in
[47:32] principle is because like we take 1,500
of our budget to and should it get
[47:38] reallocated back then then yeah, we can
use it. But um I don't really want to
[47:44] designate 1,500. That's my opinion.
>> You don't want to designate 1500?
[47:52] » Not not right off not right off the the
budget. But again, like I think we'll
[47:56] have a better idea when we look at the
work plan and see kind of all of those
[48:01] other projects that we have on the globe
>> because in the past like our big the
[48:06] things we spent our money on is the um
the elder for rocks for action and then
[48:13] a project and this is our project.
[laughter] So and usually the banic bake
[48:17] off like we didn't spend any money on
the banic bake off. Um,
[48:20] » what if we go ahead and look at the work
plan and then come back to the idea of
[48:24] spending money?
>> Yeah, I would like to talk to um Eric
[48:27] Bordalus of Home Hardware. I think he
would be all over this. I think he would
[48:31] really, you know,
>> he's on my list. Yeah. To talk. Are
[48:35] » you going to talk to him? Because I
could I could
[48:38] stretch it include things about
donations. Mhm.
[48:42] » So, if if there's an organization or a
company or a business of talent that you
[48:46] feel is going to be able to donate
something, even if it's something for
[48:50] your auction or something for the swag
bags, that's that's what letters for to
[48:54] or reach out to people with. Yeah.
>> And and I did put in the letter areas if
[48:58] if all you have is some of your own
business swag that you want to put in
[49:02] bags,
>> fine. That's great. That's being a
[49:05] burner.
>> Mhm. Um it's just a matter of getting
[49:09] those out to where they can possibly go.
>> Yeah.
[49:13] » Yeah.
>> And I mean it is in our work plan. So
[49:16] you guys would be checking off that box
too, right? Community rel relationships
[49:19] and partnerships.
>> Yeah, for sure.
[49:22] » So I think the only reason why I'm
saying 1500 from my perspective is
[49:26] because we still have another like
thousand to work with should some of
[49:31] these other projects come up. Um because
even when we did the signage, did you
[49:36] guys have a picture in the paper yet?
>> No, it never got published. They came
[49:41] took the picture and everything, but
they never published it.
[49:45] » Good thing to do while we're doing this
campaign, I guess.
[49:48] » Yeah.
>> So, you you can say we've kind of done
[49:51] some of these projects [clears throat]
around town if you've noticed.
[49:54] » Um
and then again, it's it's supporting
[49:59] everyone who wants to participate. Like
I think this is really opening those
[50:03] doors for relationships. So the gal is
good.
[50:07] » Talking to them about it is good.
Building that relationship with people.
[50:13] » You guys have a tight timeline.
>> Yeah.
[50:19] Yeah. And Michelle, I can talk to you um
next week and we'll decide who can do
[50:24] we'll we'll divide and conquer.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Cuz Yeah. There's some big
[50:28] businesses and like even Moosehorn and
you know stuff like that. We can
[50:33] » So
>> I've talked to Todd and Tracy at Fresh
[50:35] Market.
>> Yeah,
[50:37] there's some there's some big um
businesses out there and even some of
[50:41] the um organizations around town may
want to support it as well.
[50:46] » Yeah.
>> Yeah.
[50:49] » NCan
[50:54] and then the tribal councils. Yeah.
peanut wiggo ifna
[50:59] » and kituin kowituin can help us by
printing for us
[51:05] » ko
um
[51:08] » and then they have the other uh what is
it ke
[51:12] organization
>> but there's they're they're doing the
[51:17] high school students uh
[51:22] and uh family uh I don't know social
service for
[51:26] » for KI. Yeah.
>> So that's kind of new.
[51:30] » Then you already have Sliff now. You
might want to put in Manoa and just the
[51:35] big organizations around town.
>> Yeah.
[51:38] » Yeah.
>> And then the businesses, like you say,
[51:40] businesses.
>> Yeah.
[51:44] » And even some local artisans can donate
to the auction, you know.
[51:48] » Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah.
[51:52] » Yeah. Start tapping into some of the
artists. You know the other thing I was
[51:55] thinking about was uh for the awards to
be presented
[52:01] uh they should be presented by
dignitaries from solo
[52:06] » like say the op
detachment commander and
[52:12] maybe somebody else from the op could do
it. We could also invite the NAPS
[52:18] officers to come come out and uh offer
offer a presentation to somebody. So you
[52:25] would need I guess 10 10 awards
presenters.
[52:29] » Yeah.
>> You can get somebody from Laxul to
[52:32] present an award that you can come out
and present the award or Elvis I guess.
[52:38] Uh he he'll be our chief. [laughter]
[52:42] But um yeah, so we'll we'll we'll see
who can come out. The director for Man
[52:49] Allen could come out and and uh present
an award or anybody else you can think
[52:54] of that might
>> um
[52:56] » and when you do that, you got to think
of what you're taking away from the
[52:58] invites too, right? Yeah.
>> Because you said 120.
[53:02] » That's for like the support. So that's
100.
[53:05] » There's only 100 tickets and 20 We're
anticipating 20 staff members, right?
[53:10] Isn't that what we decided?
>> Yeah.
[53:12] » Volunteership.
>> And then we have 20 possibly settle
[53:15] aside for those people who are being
honored.
[53:18] » Yes.
>> Plus family then. Yeah. Like we're
[53:21] already we're already getting down to
like 65 70
[53:24] » invitations beyond that, right?
>> Yeah.
[53:28] » Well, and remember in the letter
depending on the donation level you gave
[53:33] them seats.
>> Yes.
[53:35] » So letter has four seats.
Okay.
[53:38] » So again, it's it's coming to crunching
numbers and and really honing in.
[53:43] » Hopefully those four seats will be the
delegates that are presenting awards.
[53:46] » Yes, exactly. [laughter]
>> Yeah.
[53:50] Two words of fun.
>> You can't demand that.
[53:52] » I know. [laughter]
[53:55] » Before the sports, I don't know, you
would want to come up to the Bombers
[53:59] with somebody from the Bombers.
>> Why not? Or
[54:02] » coach or or even somebody from the golf
club? I don't know.
[54:07] What about a principal from the school?
>> Yeah. Yeah. They could be a dignitary
[54:12] that presents an award.
>> You know anyone? [laughter]
[54:17] » I think it fit very nicely.
>> There you go.
[54:21] » Well, slowly coming together. These are
just some of the outstanding questions.
[54:25] » And the only thing I see may need a a
room for safe space for anybody who is
[54:32] uh triggered or traumatized. We may need
a counselor in there, you know, from
[54:38] Noden maybe to see if anybody can come
out and uh lend their supports that way
[54:44] for us. So,
[54:51] » I'll talk to adult ed for the safe
space. See if we can use that space.
[54:55] » Yeah, a little safe space.
[55:02] » What else? an elder I guess for the uh
event of an elder too.
[55:12] Somebody to do the opening prayer.
>> Yeah.
[55:15] » And the closing.
[55:20] » Yeah. Once with you, Brent and Naomi,
once you've done all the nominations,
[55:25] maybe the next thing you guys could work
on is the program.
[55:29] like how is the the like how's the
program going to go?
[55:36] [clears throat]
>> Yeah.
[55:38] » And again, that will have to be done in
subcommittee, right? So, there's sort of
[55:42] going to be two subcommittees sort of
like you guys doing the logistics and
[55:46] then the boots on the ground doing the
work. Yeah.
[55:52] And hopefully I was sort of thinking of
reaching out to an organization who will
[55:57] come and be boots on the ground the
night to help us do work like you know I
[56:02] don't know who like maybe Rotary or the
Lions or someone like that you know to
[56:07] help set up and take down
>> maybe that's something we want to add to
[56:12] our uh sponsorship letter is like what
can be done in kind.
[56:15] » Yeah. Yeah. and then just say like I'd
be a we we as an organization would be
[56:21] available to supply four people at this
time or whatever.
[56:27] » Yeah,
>> that that might be good to add.
[56:29] » Yeah,
>> I'm going to feel out for uh WASA staff.
[56:33] They like to be involved in everything,
right? And we have our our staff meeting
[56:39] on Friday and I'm going to bring some of
these and and and see who's
[56:42] » available to do stuff. It was if it was
during the week, we would be like
[56:46] mandated. you guys are going to help.
Yeah, [laughter]
[56:48] cuz we are setting up
>> but if it's in the evenings and weekend
[56:51] then then I'll I'll s I'll suggest it
and see who volunteers to come in. But
[56:56] » because setup is is we've organized that
setup is on Friday. So it is during the
[57:02] week the Friday setup but then we have
to clean up on Sunday which is not
[57:07] during the week.
>> Set up
[57:10] » but definitely set up. I can update the
donation letter to include the theme and
[57:16] um that suggestion
>> possible in kind. Yeah,
[57:18] » definitely in kind and see.
>> You never know
[57:23] » cuz yeah, as long as they have a contact
to say, "Hey, you know what? We said we
[57:26] can do this in kind." And then they're
able to talk to Joan and said, you know,
[57:30] kind of give us like your layout. What
do you need for Friday? What do you need
[57:33] for Sunday? And at the event and then
you you have at least that logistics
[57:38] going. Yeah,
>> that'd be good.
[57:42] » Well, I've also encouraged the use of
potentially reaching out to the high
[57:45] school and the college for volunteers.
>> Their their people need volunteer hours.
[57:49] They have minimum they have to meet and
let's face it, by April.
[57:54] » Yep. [laughter]
>> So, I was going to send out like this uh
[57:58] nomination letter um and some other
stuff to the high school. my my husband
[58:02] is the vice principal there and so just
give him an idea of all the the the
[58:07] categories and you know like he's got
his eyes on the ground knowing where
[58:11] where you know possible some students
and stuff like that could be tapped on
[58:15] his shoulder um and and then also
suggests like volunteering and and who
[58:21] wants to get in there as well and he
works with the partners as well like all
[58:25] KO and Shabuma and um windo if not and
So we can probably see how that that
[58:33] works through there too through the
school.
[58:37] Yeah.
[58:42] » Anything else on this topic until we get
back to the financial aspect?
[58:50] » So do you think we should make a motion
now to spend the $1,500?
[58:55] » I thought Naomi wanted to talk about the
work plan first.
[58:57] » Okay, let's do that. If we are okay,
then we then we can ballpark where we're
[59:02] at.
[59:08] [clears throat]
[59:11] » So, we're going to review the work plan
first.
[59:14] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. Okay. They'll
[59:17] » updated work plan and education campaign
uh complete or ongoing stand project
[59:24] creation of standies for has been
completed. Additional requests were will
[59:29] be reviewed as received. Education will
continue to be supported on as needed
[59:34] and opportunity based basis.
Public space and memorialization.
[59:41] Uh creation of public space designated
for reflection and hailing. Uh council
[59:47] has approved a public space for
relocation of the memorial. Uh
[59:52] relocation of existing memorial to
memorial garden near the travel
[59:56] information center is planned for the
spring. Additional elements may be
[1:00:01] explored as the project progresses with
the understanding of anything outside of
[1:00:05] the garden requires further council
approval and uh provide input on
[1:00:10] municipal projects as requested as per
2026
[1:00:16] to 31 strategic plan.
>> Okay. So,
[1:00:21] what when um Joan when you were talking
with Lena, what were some of the costs
[1:00:26] associated with this? Was there anything
like
[1:00:32] the the public space? I couldn't
remember if there was going to be like a
[1:00:35] little display that we were hoping to
have.
[1:00:41] Can't hear you, John.
Microphone. Yeah.
[1:00:47] » Sorry. We're doing a physical garden.
So, we have to purchase like the garden,
[1:00:52] the actual building material.
>> And then we wanted to do some kind of
[1:00:57] display. So, and we would need dirt and
plants. So, the plants can be available
[1:01:04] for donation like people can buy them in
honor of other people, but we would need
[1:01:07] to build the physical infrastructure,
which it's quite small. It's not that
[1:01:13] big. And it would be nice to have some
type of art application within the
[1:01:18] garden that can hold some of the shoes
or a shoe or something.
[1:01:23] » Can I ask
>> I think we should be able to pull that
[1:01:25] off for easily for $1,000 like
>> what are the dimensions of the the
[1:01:34] garden again?
[1:01:38] » Megan, do you know the exact dimensions?
It wasn't very big. I'm going to say
[1:01:41] less than eight. Not. I have to look it
up. Give me Give me a few minutes. So,
[1:01:45] » they're like 4 by eight or
>> eight by Yeah, 12 by eight.
[1:01:50] » 12 by eight. Okay.
>> Yeah. Which when you're building things,
[1:01:53] that's dimensional lumber
>> sizes, right?
[1:01:57] » It might even been thinner.
>> Yeah. So Joan, you and I were
[1:02:02] » Joan, you and I were going to look at
the construction costs
[1:02:07] » and the soil because if we do that
fairly soon, there is a grant in the
[1:02:14] United Church, but we need to do it soon
because the deadline for the application
[1:02:18] is coming up.
>> Okay. So we'll look at that.
[1:02:22] » Yeah.
>> United Church.
[1:02:24] » Yeah. the United Church is a healing
fund
[1:02:28] to which we could apply for some of that
because that's that kind of thing that
[1:02:32] they probably would fit their
um
[1:02:38] whatever.
>> I'm not sure but the Anglican church has
[1:02:42] some kind of healing fund as well.
>> Yeah. Well,
[1:02:47] » yeah. Approach.
So, is that drafting of another letter
[1:02:51] to make those relationships?
Just a thought maybe.
[1:02:57] » Could do, but we can do it by just in
person.
[1:03:02] » Yeah, that'd be good.
And then would we because they did some
[1:03:07] donations like
again like when we build relationships,
[1:03:12] we want to encourage people through like
acknowledging and things like that. So,
[1:03:18] » yeah.
[1:03:29] So, do we have a cost associated with
this
[1:03:33] that we could ballpark at least the
>> public space?
[1:03:37] » Mhm.
>> I thought it was around $1,500 was what
[1:03:40] was
>> Wow.
[1:03:41] » I thought that's what it was, but I
don't have the report that I wrote to
[1:03:44] council at the time.
>> No, actually, it's right here. Um the
[1:03:48] budget is $1,1500.
The size of the bed was 6 and 12 by 3
[1:03:52] and 1/2 ft. Cost of flowers and soils
expected to be 1500 and $500 each year
[1:03:58] for plants and projects.
>> Okay. So first is one to 1500 and then
[1:04:04] each additional year is 500
>> not including the cost of flower and the
[1:04:07] soil which is expected to be another
1500
[1:04:10] » on top of every year. Well, I have
minutes.
[1:04:13] » You don't cost that much for for
>> the initial the initial flower was 1,500
[1:04:19] and annually 500 for the flowers because
you'll already have the so you might
[1:04:22] » The flowers the flowers are perennials
so you don't replace them every year.
[1:04:27] They're perennial flowers.
[1:04:31] » I think we were considering there might
be some damage or animals or something
[1:04:36] else.
>> It was just a safety net, right?
[1:04:38] » That's a safety net.
That's a pretty generous safety net.
[1:04:42] Like
>> it is actually [laughter]
[1:04:44] my my annual dying at 200.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
[1:04:48] » What was the what were the dimensions
you mentioned there? They sounded
[1:04:52] smaller like three and a half
>> six and a half by three and a half.
[1:04:58] » So it wasn't a very large garden bed.
Um, but it was budgeted for 1,00 to,500
[1:05:04] and then like I said 1,500 cost and
flowers and soils
[1:05:08] » and council approved how big a space?
Not six and a half. Like obviously
[1:05:12] there's some like overflow but we have
to have everything in the bed was the
[1:05:16] requirement, right?
>> Yes. Everything has to be in the bed. If
[1:05:19] it's outside of the bed, it needs to go
back to council because the anything
[1:05:23] outside the bed was being maintained by
the municipality. Anything inside the
[1:05:26] bed was being maintained by the
committee.
[1:05:28] » Okay. So, this this is one thing we do
have to consider when people do go to
[1:05:32] memorial places. If you've gone to any
of the memorial places around our
[1:05:36] region, um they're hanging things in
trees, they're hanging things, they're
[1:05:39] putting things on the ground, they're
putting things in. So, we'd have to
[1:05:43] ensure that people are aware like if
you're going to add to this memorial, it
[1:05:46] has to go in the box. Then, we have to
be aware that should it expand,
[1:05:52] then the next group needs to know that
maybe we need to take this other
[1:05:56] structure outside. So the flower bed
could be and and this is just thought
[1:06:01] the flower bed could be smaller than
that 6 and 1/2 and then you have an
[1:06:06] actual place to put
>> additional things in because because
[1:06:11] there is an honoring and leaving some
stuff there, right?
[1:06:14] » What about building
something uh above the ground? Um, like
[1:06:20] you have your space with your flowers
and everything, but I mean uh if you
[1:06:24] build a structure in the shape of a
heart and and then have little uh
[1:06:30] shelves.
>> Oh yeah. Around the heart
[1:06:32] » things. Yeah.
>> Yeah. And then that way people could put
[1:06:35] moccasins or
tobacco or you know candy on those
[1:06:41] little shelves. I don't know if or hang
we could even hang something from the
[1:06:47] » uh like say a crystal sun ray catcher or
something some kind of
[1:06:52] » people will
>> yeah from the middle and uh you know
[1:06:57] » there could be
>> I would like that
[1:07:01] » round the flower bed there could
actually be a paved area so that if
[1:07:05] people brought stuff
>> that increases cost.
[1:07:10] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. But I mean in the future like I
[1:07:13] mean aside from the flower bed for now.
>> But I mean consider building outside.
[1:07:20] » Yeah.
>> Something that holds something.
[1:07:22] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. It could be
[1:07:25] » We don't have any restrictions on
building up, do we? [laughter]
[1:07:33] » An artificial tree built. I thought
>> it having shelves in place with
[1:07:39] branches.
>> Yeah, you could do that. I thought that
[1:07:41] was one of the discussions that that
>> was really sounded nice
[1:07:45] » because you know a lot of native artists
uh who do uh native art usually do a
[1:07:52] tree of life.
>> Yeah.
[1:07:55] » Yeah. A tree of life would be really
nice, you know.
[1:07:57] » Yeah.
>> We we should we should
[1:08:01] we should plant a white pine.
>> White pine. Yeah. Well, the only thing
[1:08:08] about planting a white pine is it won't
fit in the box like in the end. Like it
[1:08:13] will in the beginning, but in the end
when it's this big, it will be the
[1:08:17] entire box. Yeah.
>> True. So, let's slightly bigger box.
[1:08:22] » Yeah. Well, [laughter] you've been
approved for
[1:08:29] » So, I think that that realistically I
think our costs were a little high
[1:08:33] there. Um, I think 1,500 probably would
encapsulate everything, including the
[1:08:37] soil, the plants, and the planter box,
because I remember looking up the
[1:08:41] planter box at the time, and I believe
it was around $800 for the box itself
[1:08:46] from Sprout, Inc., which I think was
what the company was. Um, if you were
[1:08:50] still going to go with that,
um, that would leave you
[1:08:57] $1,000.
>> Yeah. Because if we
[1:09:00] » if with the garden if we um I don't like
the idea of purchasing a plastic box.
[1:09:05] I'm sorry. [laughter]
>> Like using an organic material like we
[1:09:09] could get rough on lumber and make one
for well under
[1:09:13] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. And with the size of the with the
[1:09:17] size of the garden, it's not going to
need a lot of soil. And it's just the
[1:09:21] plants, the perennial plants,
>> which are more expensive, right? Like a
[1:09:24] perennial plant can run anywhere
between$10 to $20 per plant.
[1:09:32] » You can ask the best idea. I'm just I'm
just throwing this out because I know
[1:09:35] we've discussed it. If you're talking
about selling the plants or or donating
[1:09:40] the plants to people to do this every
year, wouldn't you want to have plants
[1:09:44] that come out at the end of the year?
>> Kind of have like a a new like a
[1:09:48] awakening every spring like let's plant
this again. like just to honor it
[1:09:52] instead of just we can forget about it
because they're going to grow again, but
[1:09:55] like intentionally every year planting
new flowers.
[1:09:59] » That's the intention. Yeah, definitely.
>> We could or we could even do a a hybrid
[1:10:04] where we're doing
>> the border replant every year and the
[1:10:08] center of the plants being
>> we could probably also like separate
[1:10:12] some of our own plants in our gardens
and add to it. Like I have perennial
[1:10:15] irises and hostas that I can donate.
I'll have like tons of them. But I think
[1:10:21] our vision was that they're going to be
orange or the color scheme is orange,
[1:10:25] » right?
>> So, as long as your plants are orange,
[1:10:28] [laughter]
[1:10:32] » it's nice to have some, you know, maybe
traditional healing plants as well.
[1:10:42] » Tobacco seeds. [laughter]
>> Well, you can plant you could plant.
[1:10:49] » Okay. and we need to associate a cost to
it. So, we we've talked about the box
[1:10:55] being 6 1/2 by 3 and 1/2 ft. Um, we've
taken into consideration that there
[1:11:00] needs to be a place to put things within
that box because anything outside of
[1:11:04] that, like there has to be a clear a
clear idea of why we're putting this
[1:11:10] memorial there and then coming up with a
cost to support it because it's
[1:11:16] something we want to do in the spring.
So again, are we are we budgeting
[1:11:21] towards this of like $1,000 and kind of
like you said, Joan, we have some,
[1:11:26] pardon me, opportunity to have a box
built for us rather than a bought box
[1:11:31] and then possible [clears throat]
donations for people to and then how do
[1:11:36] we get that out there that like, hey,
you can buy a plant or are they just
[1:11:40] buying their own plants and then going
and like
[1:11:43] » planting it? But that's what I'm saying
like like there has to be some sort of
[1:11:47] like
>> this is the day, this is the plant
[1:11:51] ready, come in and buy your thing or you
know. Yeah.
[1:11:54] » There. Okay. I like that. I didn't think
>> and we can even convince Home Hardware
[1:11:58] to bring some of their plants there and
sell them on the spot and then have a
[1:12:02] ceremony and then if people want to buy
a plant to put one in, they can.
[1:12:06] » You know, there would have to be a set
number like this is the vision and you
[1:12:10] can buy these plants in honor of people,
>> you know.
[1:12:14] Not only are honorariums for elders, but
they're also for knowledge keepers. So,
[1:12:18] if you're going to do something along
this line, too,
[1:12:22] » you need an honorarium.
>> You need an honorarium.
[1:12:24] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. If if you're doing ceremony,
[1:12:26] right?
>> Yes. Yes. Yeah. So, I think that we
[1:12:31] should still just budget $1,000 for this
event.
[1:12:36] » Okay. How about we How about um I'm
willing to go to Home Hardware and get
[1:12:42] um estimate for the the wood for making
the thing. Um who Joan, you sound like
[1:12:50] you you know about plants. Why why don't
you do a little bit of research and come
[1:12:54] up with a list of plants that would be
>> Well, the nice thing is Eric Bordalus
[1:12:58] and his wife are landscape designers. So
they are they have huge knowledge. So
[1:13:05] last year when we talked about this, I
did talk to him about it. So he can just
[1:13:09] rattle off. They can come up.
>> Well, let's do that.
[1:13:12] » Because
>> yeah,
[1:13:14] » I mean, as I said, I think I can get
money through the United Church healing
[1:13:20] healing fund. So if we but we need to
have a budget for that. So, if you could
[1:13:26] go back to them and, you know, get a
list of plants and estimate cost.
[1:13:31] » I'll do the the estimate of the planter.
How high do you want the planter?
[1:13:38] » Like two feet around.
>> I'd say two feet.
[1:13:41] » Yeah. Okay.
>> Okay. So, we're estimating 1,000. Sorry,
[1:13:48] » Yep.
>> That sounds good.
[1:13:51] » You good with that, darling?
>> Yeah.
[1:14:01] So, we're going to move on to the next
thing on the work plans.
[1:14:07] » Yeah, sorry.
>> That's okay.
[1:14:09] » I'm busy eating. [laughter]
>> We all did that.
[1:14:12] » Just trying to keep us on track.
>> Community relationships and partnerships
[1:14:18] ongoing. Um, community events, blueberry
festival, orange shirt day, the gallow
[1:14:24] awards, um, opportunities for
collaboration
[1:14:28] will be scored as they arise,
input on municipal project as requested
[1:14:35] per the 26 to 31 strategic plan. Um I
don't know if we've seen any of that but
[1:14:42] uh anyway the events [clears throat] and
the commemoration ongoing annual
[1:14:46] blueberry festival orange shirt day the
TRC gala awards
[1:14:52] communication and public information.
This is new. So we need a we have to
[1:14:57] have a website with recent information,
events, activities, land acknowledgement
[1:15:03] and if approved with audible
demonstration. A Facebook page request
[1:15:08] has been sent to CAO with detailed
information for review. So I don't know
[1:15:13] if there's any movement on those things.
Uh creation of a traditional protocols
[1:15:20] guide for distribution.
This is new uh create information to be
[1:15:25] shared with the general public regarding
traditional protocols such as
[1:15:28] information on honorarium smudging
presenting tobacco etc. Um,
[1:15:35] okay.
>> So, that's one. If you're hoping to
[1:15:38] actually create and distribute, unique
printing costs,
[1:15:43] » we can check with Qi2 for support in
that way.
[1:15:49] » Yeah.
>> And the reality is on your work plan.
[1:15:52] » Yeah.
>> There has to be some sort of idea on how
[1:15:54] to get to it, right?
>> Yeah. So, the reality is like to do the
[1:16:01] We won't be printing this year. we would
be printing, let's say, in January,
[1:16:05] right? Like it would it's going to take
a lot of work to pull that together. So
[1:16:08] on this thing, the only thing that
requires funding for this year is the
[1:16:13] garden and the gala and the um elder
rocks for action.
[1:16:20] » We don't have much extra day stuff.
>> No,
[1:16:25] I don't think there's been any funds
allocated. Normally it's just we join in
[1:16:29] with whatever Slifna or Chogan is doing.
Yeah. Friendship center. Thank you. Last
[1:16:35] year we did the u on orange shirt day uh
we went out with uh Brent and uh Joan
[1:16:44] and we did the filming of how to say the
town's name right
[1:16:51] » and we gave everybody gift cards to try
>> or or actually most of them did pretty
[1:16:57] well. [laughter]
>> I was amazed.
[1:17:00] So that was a little side activity that
we did for on shirt day and the uh
[1:17:07] » uh it was edited into one piece by Brent
and uh it turned out really good.
[1:17:13] [laughter]
>> We can do something like that this year
[1:17:16] coming up then.
>> I don't know what we're going to do,
[1:17:19] [laughter]
>> but we'd like to do another educational
[1:17:21] video on the same lines. We just need to
figure out what the topic would be.
[1:17:25] » So we did buy the gift cards. Yeah.
>> How much were the gift cards then? Like
[1:17:30] 50 bucks, 100 bucks. What were you
doing? $10
[1:17:33] » each
20 for $10 each.
[1:17:35] » 20 for 10. So 200 bucks.
>> Yeah,
[1:17:37] » that's good. That's still good. So
>> yeah. And then I brought some out from
[1:17:40] my quil $25 ones. We we gave out some
more.
[1:17:48] » Those were donated.
>> The gift cards were well received.
[1:17:52] » Yeah. Well, getting to like learn the
word is good.
[1:17:55] » And then Blueberry Festival. So two
honorariums.
[1:18:00] We didn't.
>> What did we do for blueberry festival
[1:18:03] before? What's
>> rocks to action? It was $250.
[1:18:07] » Yeah. The one in Hudson. But we also had
the We entered the Banic Bake Off. Oh,
[1:18:12] yeah.
>> Oh, yeah.
[1:18:13] » We came.
>> Was there a fee with that? There was no
[1:18:17] fee with that. Was there
just been your shirt?
[1:18:21] » We made our costumes. So,
>> yeah, like Darlene and I paid for all
[1:18:26] that. I think Joan took care of that.
Oh,
[1:18:30] » they were surprised after
I went to Giant Tiger and I just bought
[1:18:34] $10, no six or $7 shirts that I think we
made about 10 of them for everybody.
[1:18:42] » We just painted them.
[laughter]
[1:18:46] » We painted a Sasquatch on
>> Oh,
[1:18:49] » because we were team team Sab, which is
Sab is the word for Sasquatch,
[1:18:55] » right? So, we honored the the Sasquatch
or the Sabbak [laughter]
[1:19:01] part of our team.
>> We even had the guy who dressed up in a
[1:19:07] as a Sasquatch. He came by. He came
through the event and
[1:19:13] » he's gone. [laughter]
>> There were those
[1:19:21] big time.
>> Was it Dave?
[1:19:22] » No, it was Eric Ransky.
>> Oh. Well, Eric would have had fun yet.
[1:19:28] » He just ended up chasing him for a
little while and he had run into
[1:19:33] [laughter]
[1:19:36] » That's so cute.
>> Okay, so right now for that is like 450
[1:19:43] for this those two items.
>> So that's 1450 and just stitch. So I
[1:19:49] will I want to take into consideration
right now um the rocks to action over
[1:19:53] the past few years have been donated and
then there's been some stuff. So we
[1:19:57] don't have those people a part of this
committee anymore.
[1:20:01] So we do have to consider
>> well we can ask if he wants to do that
[1:20:05] again you know just on his own but I
mean uh we'll help with the authorian if
[1:20:13] it's needed.
>> I would hope. Yeah. Because we use that
[1:20:16] as an education right. Yeah.
>> So, but I'm just thinking for like the
[1:20:21] rocks, the paint stuff, those were in
kind before.
[1:20:25] » Yeah, we still have that whole kit. We
have everything still. So, we have we
[1:20:30] purchased everything. We purchased
chairs, umbrellas, we we've got a popup
[1:20:34] thing, a popup thing now. We have the
tablecloths. We have all the art
[1:20:40] supplies. It's all in a bin. We just
grab the bin and go and get rocks and
[1:20:44] get an elder.
So hire an elder to do it and last year
[1:20:49] we had we've had two different elders
each time. So
[1:20:53] » that's why I was asking like because
last year there was an increase in
[1:20:57] honorarium. So that's why I'm trying to
figure out like we can't just give one,
[1:21:02] right?
>> We had just one person, didn't we,
[1:21:04] Megan?
>> I thought you had only one person.
[1:21:08] » We had one person.
>> You're hoping for two. Yeah. You would
[1:21:10] give both people an honorarium. you're
not going to be
[1:21:13] » we just need one person with him because
last year what happened last year was um
[1:21:21] because there were other events going on
in Hudson where before we were the only
[1:21:25] event so people came and sat where
people flowed through this time. So la
[1:21:30] the first year we were able to have the
elder do a presentation because everyone
[1:21:35] was sitting. But last year the elder had
to stop and talk to each group that came
[1:21:41] through. So it wasn't just one thing. So
and he actually did like a little walk
[1:21:47] around town too. So which was
interesting. So it sort of changes based
[1:21:52] on how what's going to happen in Hudson,
right? Because last year Hudson had sort
[1:21:57] of like a little fair. They had like
history stuff in the hall. They had
[1:22:01] stuff in the seniors. There was other
stuff. There was a little dog show
[1:22:06] thing. So, there was lots of other
things to move around. People move
[1:22:09] through the community.
[1:22:18] » This cabinet, I know I'm moving on maybe
a little bit too quickly, but it's not
[1:22:22] on our stuff here.
>> The cabinet. Uh, was that in kind? No,
[1:22:28] we bought it from last year's money with
our extra money that we had at the end
[1:22:31] of the year.
>> Yeah,
[1:22:35] » we have 26 cents left.
>> Yeah,
[1:22:39] » I did good spending, not
>> you did. You did good.
[1:22:42] » Appreciate you, Megan. [laughter]
That I purchased Reflections and I
[1:22:48] [clears throat] ended up getting it on
Black Friday and everything was like 10%
[1:22:52] off was free shipping. So, I was able to
get $130 more of items, which was really
[1:22:58] nice.
>> Yes.
[1:23:00] » I just have that box in my office right
now.
[1:23:03] » Awesome. That's what we need.
>> Especially going forward, right? We can
[1:23:06] use that. Yeah.
>> It's nice that it just the supplies just
[1:23:10] add up
>> after year and you'll have your
[1:23:13] » I got I got a pretty good variety.
There's mugs, there's aprons, there's
[1:23:17] dish towels, there's puzzles.
You can come down and see it if you
[1:23:22] want. This is swag.
>> Yeah. This is either stuff that you can
[1:23:26] So, so most of it obviously doesn't
they're not all the same, right? So,
[1:23:30] everybody who's going to come in might
get something different. Um or
[1:23:35] potentially you put them together if
you're trying to do a silent auction
[1:23:38] instead of swag if you can't get the
swag. You put them together in bundles.
[1:23:42] » Yes. Cuz they all sound like they could
be in bundled.
[1:23:45] » Most of this is um store manager can
have designed. Most of it, not all of
[1:23:50] it.
>> She's on a She's on a rise right now.
[1:23:52] That's amazing. She's doing great. You
saw her artwork on the IFNA vehicle. She
[1:23:57] did the bombers jerseys like
>> her scarf and she
[1:24:02] » store magic.
>> Oh,
[1:24:04] » there are a lot of talented artists.
>> Okay.
[1:24:07] » But yeah, you guys are welcome to stop
downstairs before I leave if you want to
[1:24:10] take a look.
>> Totally will.
[1:24:12] » Yeah, me too.
>> Okay, so right now we're sitting at
[1:24:15] roughly $1,400 which would play into,000
for the gala. I love her artwork.
[1:24:23] » Oh, yeah.
>> Beautiful.
[1:24:26] » That's a nice scarf.
>> She's chasing.
[1:24:31] » If you're very convinced that you're
going to be able to gain donations from
[1:24:34] people for the galla, then it's awesome.
Should be sufficient to
[1:24:37] » I think we'll have no problem getting
another $5,000 from the community. Like
[1:24:41] I like easy and more.
>> You're absolutely right.
[1:24:46] » Yeah. Well, as soon as we get them.
>> Yeah, I think so. So we would need what
[1:24:51] 125
of some things from people.
[1:24:57] » Oh, you mean for like swag?
>> Oh, yeah.
[1:25:01] [laughter]
>> 125 items for swag. Okay, good idea.
[1:25:06] Good. I mean like there could be a
potential now for like some stickers if
[1:25:10] we get a logo like some of those things
that could be a little bit more like
[1:25:14] » associated with the gala that took place
because I mean everybody likes stickers.
[1:25:19] You put them on your phone or
>> water bottles.
[1:25:22] » Yeah. my life.
>> To get say the friendship center to
[1:25:27] donate like
>> a stress ball
[1:25:30] » or you know the hospital to to donate
>> women's shelter always has a
[1:25:38] » swag.
>> Exactly. Yeah.
[1:25:40] » What's the support services again? They
always have something good to do. Shabin
[1:25:46] Robin Williams fans
[clears throat]
[1:25:49] » for this year for the logo. We should
just use the sulode if we can use the
[1:25:55] sulode logo on the bag on the swag bag
for now.
[1:26:00] » How many packs do we have downstairs? I
don't know if we need permission. Uh
[1:26:03] there's
still it would be nice to have it from
[1:26:08] that to show that it is municipality
that
[1:26:11] » Brian HR purchased a whole bunch of
grocery bags
[1:26:16] » um when we were giving out stuff to our
staff. Um I can see if maybe we can
[1:26:21] donate those like if the municipality
can donate them. Mike can
[1:26:24] » I have a question too. So, uh, Darlene
brought up a big a good question. Like,
[1:26:28] [clears throat] municipality, we're
we're a municipal
[1:26:32] Oh, I can't even speak. Um, committee.
>> When we do an event like this, like, is
[1:26:38] there anything that bars us from getting
our own logo for these events like that
[1:26:42] we're hosting? Like, do we like, you
know, how on the standies we had in
[1:26:46] partnership with your logo and then the
municipality? Oh my goodness. The
[1:26:51] community
logo. [laughter]
[1:26:54] So uh and then it said with partnership
with truth and reconciliation committee.
[1:27:00] So like is there any anything we need to
know about that
[1:27:05] » logo you're asking about? Is that
>> I don't know because I mean that could
[1:27:08] be in the future
>> in the future.
[1:27:11] » Yeah, it could be a local contest like
there there are opportunities to make it
[1:27:14] big. Do we have
>> to keep it under the Sula municipal logo
[1:27:20] or is there an opportunity because I
don't know what I don't know what that
[1:27:23] conversation is.
>> So I don't know that's the best answer
[1:27:28] to give you. I don't know and I would
have to ask. Um as far as I understand
[1:27:32] it um any committee that is under a
municipal umbrella does have to
[1:27:41] reference the municipality. Um, I'm not
sure to what extent and I will have to
[1:27:47] ask. It's an answer I just don't have.
>> And you know what? That's cool because I
[1:27:50] think that'll help clarify the next
couple of year plans, right? Because if
[1:27:55] we're saying this is the truth and
reconciliation committee, but it's
[1:27:59] obviously under the municipal then then
it's just saying but we're identifying
[1:28:04] because I think was it public works that
had the like the train over the silicone
[1:28:10] bridge like that was kind of associated
with them but I don't know like so it's
[1:28:14] a good thing just to ask.
[1:28:21] » So Joan, you're good with a thousand?
Yeah. Yep. I'm like Michelle, I'm pretty
[1:28:26] confident that there's lots of support
out there for this project. So,
[1:28:30] » definitely
>> I'm not too
[1:28:32] » It just that if we have the $1,000, it
gives us the logistics that we're not
[1:28:36] waiting for money to come in, right? We
we know certain things that we have to
[1:28:41] pay for, we can do.
>> I like that. I'm confident with that.
[1:28:50] » All right. So anyway, um back to the
agenda. Number eight, uh we talked about
[1:28:55] the liability concerns. Uh so that's
done. And then A2 is the cabinet. And
[1:29:03] the cabinets are okay.
>> The cabinet is purchased. It's sitting
[1:29:07] in my garage, but when I cracked my rib,
I could not build a cabinet. So So I'm
[1:29:16] planning when I get back, I'm going to
spend a day go and the library. I'm
[1:29:20] going to talk to because there's been a
change of management at the library and
[1:29:24] we were talking to the old management.
So, we'll reconnect with the new
[1:29:27] management and I'm just going to
actually try to assemble it actually
[1:29:31] there rather than try to move it in the
middle of the winter. Glass cabinet
[1:29:35] assembled frozen. So, um just assemble
it there because the um the artifact is
[1:29:43] in the basement of the library and then
we'll just bring it up and make sure it
[1:29:47] » it it's in it can stand and be in there.
>> How long is it in the library for?
[1:29:53] » Hopefully forever. Or if someone wants
to borrow it, we can move it, but
[1:29:58] hopefully forever with, you know, Yeah.
Get it out there. Get it out of the
[1:30:05] basement.
[1:30:08] and she's not
>> great. Thanks.
[1:30:11] » You did leave.
>> Okay.
[1:30:14] » She's not in the in the waiting room.
So, um I'm guessing she either lost
[1:30:18] connectivity or had to leave.
>> Oh,
[1:30:20] » she sent a note. She's put it in the
note. She had to leave.
[1:30:24] » Okay.
[1:30:27] » So, number three, the updated work plan.
Everything seemed to be okay.
[1:30:35] turn out to be going to class tomorrow.
Like
[1:30:37] » tomorrow? Yes.
>> There is one thing now [laughter]
[1:30:42] want to leave Naomi. I'm like I'm sorry.
Now that we have Michelle and Elvis who
[1:30:48] are a part of it, um was there any ideas
going forward for Blueberry Festival
[1:30:53] events that you had or you good with
what we're going forward with? So there
[1:30:58] just to think of in the future, but so
far we have the rocks to action that the
[1:31:03] TRC but when if there is anything that
you're thinking of in the future that
[1:31:09] could be considered for the work plan
would be good
[1:31:12] » and organic offic
[1:31:18] [laughter]
[1:31:22] um now I know that here we have like a
creation of traditional protocol calls
[1:31:27] guide for distribution.
So thoughts what Megan and I kind of
[1:31:32] brought to our attention is like even in
the work plan there has to be some sort
[1:31:36] of like milestones or structures you
guys are going to be looking at. So if
[1:31:41] that create information to be shared
with the general public when you're
[1:31:44] working with knowledge keepers and
you're working with those who are like
[1:31:48] having some thoughts that like there is
some exchange of cultural protocol as
[1:31:53] well as those who aren't culturally um
protocol like there are other ways that
[1:31:58] you need to be engaging. Um, I do need
to bring to attention that like even
[1:32:03] though we're indigenous, not everyone is
traditional. They're faith-based as
[1:32:07] well. And we can't just signify that
both because they are both represented
[1:32:11] by First Nations people. Um, again, this
also goes into the aspect that we have a
[1:32:18] lot of people who are non-indigenous
that have knowledge and have had that
[1:32:23] opportunity to share. So how like this
isn't just about like
[1:32:29] from our perspective and I I say our
perspective lately this is about a
[1:32:33] collective perspective going back to
that relationship building that we
[1:32:36] talked about on page one like community
part relationships and partnerships. Uh
[1:32:41] true reconciliation comes from healing.
Uh we can point fingers and say they
[1:32:46] need to heal. However we got to point
the finger back at us. We need to heal.
[1:32:50] You need to heal. Hey, the reality is
when you're open and you're a lot more
[1:32:54] self-aware and you have that opportunity
and just like Darlene pointed out, we
[1:32:58] have an opportunity when people are
potentially could be triggered. We don't
[1:33:03] know those triggers. So, just having
those safety safety
[1:33:08] safety nets in place. Um, so when we do
kind of these traditional protocols,
[1:33:13] even if this kind of moves into next
year, but throughout this year, you're
[1:33:20] able to build those relationships and
connections with people to see what what
[1:33:24] that is cuz it's it's protocols just for
even the whole municipality.
[1:33:30] Like we we know a lot of people here and
you can have those relationships and and
[1:33:36] you don't want them get blurred like
some are professional and some are
[1:33:38] personal. So like like how do we work
with each other cuz it is about true
[1:33:43] reconciliation like working with each
other communicating. So
[1:33:49] » yeah I don't know what uh um when we
talk traditional and then what you
[1:33:56] mentioned um is that uh a lot of our
people are not actually traditional.
[1:34:01] They're traditional Christians. I mean,
they live on the land, but they still
[1:34:06] practice uh Christianity.
Um, if we look at some of the
[1:34:11] communities, they have more than one
different kind of church. Sandy Lake has
[1:34:16] about seven different kinds of churches,
>> you know. They have Roman Catholic, they
[1:34:20] have Anglican, they have
>> I don't know what else they have,
[1:34:23] [laughter]
but there's like seven of them, I heard.
[1:34:26] And um so there might be a whole new
[sighs and gasps]
[1:34:31] uh wording to I think traditional came
up at one point because u we were
[1:34:38] talking about honorariums and then we
got into talking about smudging and
[1:34:43] prayer and tobacco and that kind of
thing. So,
[1:34:48] um,
if we do honor everything,
[1:34:53] the diverse spiritual practices, maybe
you could reward at some events because
[1:35:00] if we have the um um
the unmarked graves and any ceremony
[1:35:06] that happens there, I'm sure we're going
to end up with uh different types of
[1:35:10] people who are going to be praying. Um,
look at Bill Morris.
[1:35:16] » He's a what is he?
>> Reverend.
[1:35:18] » Reverend. Um, and uh, you know, if he
comes to the event such as this in the
[1:35:24] future, then he'll be praying in his
way. And there's a lot of other ordained
[1:35:29] people in the north, right,
>> that go to school and they get their
[1:35:34] » There are a lot of women.
>> Yes. A lot of women
[1:35:37] » did that are doing that and they're
becoming spiritual leaders. uh that way.
[1:35:43] So yeah, we may have to reconsider
learning this. Um
[1:35:48] » I like that the combining of all the
different spiritual practices. That's a
[1:35:52] another way of reconciliation, too,
where there's no separation between the
[1:35:55] way you you have your faith because it
is all
[1:36:00] it's it's all related, right? It's we're
all
[1:36:04] [laughter and gasps]
>> just looking for something.
[1:36:07] » Yeah. So we might want to reconsider
just just that section in the future for
[1:36:13] discussion
>> and because we'd be also looking would
[1:36:17] we defer this to next year and the only
reason I'm bringing that up is because
[1:36:22] the money's accounted for.
>> Yeah,
[1:36:25] » it does say creation for distribution.
It doesn't say actually distributed
[1:36:31] » comes over this table. Okay, sounds
good. And it really might take two years
[1:36:36] to create it.
>> Yeah.
[1:36:38] » Yeah.
>> Yeah.
[1:36:39] » Good, good points. Okay.
>> But for now, I guess the word honorarium
[1:36:43] is in there. So it'll, you know, it'll
uh
[1:36:47] » they'll be aware part of the
documentation for for council to to to
[1:36:52] look at and realize that yeah, we've got
to pay on ourarium and uh for tobacco.
[1:36:58] We might want to spend money on tobacco
under this. So
[1:37:04] anyway, okay. So we'll leave that for
now. Is that okay?
[1:37:08] » I'm good.
>> Okay. And then uh the review of the
[1:37:12] municipal policies through the cultural
lens uh cemetery bylaw
[1:37:19] that's on hold. on hold as the cemetery
memorialization events uh with the
[1:37:27] children of um went missing or un or
were buried in armor graves for the
[1:37:35] zone. Um and bringing the children home
initiative hasn't really started doing
[1:37:41] that yet. So we're still on hold for
that. So that'll be the updated work
[1:37:49] plan I guess which will be presented
tomorrow. Okay. And then number four 84.
[1:37:56] So we'll just move on. Chamber of
Commerce events calendar.
[1:38:02] Want to Oh, that was Michelle that has
it.
[1:38:06] » Oh yes. Um
yeah. So, the
[1:38:11] chamber when I went there, they were
talking about being able to support any
[1:38:16] events and stuff that are going on by
putting them on our municipal calendar.
[1:38:20] Um, it's it's pretty easy to just go on
the the site, fill in the information,
[1:38:28] and it gets put up on the on the
calendar. And the chamber may also um
[1:38:35] help promote that through uh I think
people sign up for a text and you get
[1:38:40] all your your events like even bombers
games or whatever that people want to
[1:38:45] promote out there. Um so if we can put
it through those those channels as well
[1:38:50] to get it pushed out there and and then
the chamber does stuff on Facebook and
[1:38:55] other things as well.
>> Nice. So they take on some of that
[1:38:58] communication for us because that is
good. Yeah, we're we're like we're
[1:39:02] coming up to some roadblocks and it's
not negative, it's just like how do we
[1:39:06] work within this? So, that's awesome.
Awesome to hear.
[1:39:09] » I'll check with um Christine about being
able to do this like and if if if it's
[1:39:15] with a fee or not. I think it's a fairly
minimal fee, but if um if they would
[1:39:19] just do that for the community as well.
>> Yeah. If there's a fee, let us know.
[1:39:23] » Yeah. Yeah. Just for the for the chamber
part of things. Um, otherwise like the
[1:39:28] the municipal website with the calendar
of events, you can just do that anytime.
[1:39:36] Well, I'm sure that um
we'd be able to post some things on our
[1:39:42] Facebook page if we if we prepared them
and stuck them in. Um, so if you did
[1:39:46] want to advertise something about this
these events that we're talking about,
[1:39:52] um, I just have to have the information
so I can send it for approval. That's
[1:39:56] all. Or I have to have directions to
create the information so I can send it
[1:39:59] for other. That's that's what we've got
going on.
[1:40:02] » Right. Yeah. One thing I forgot about
that because it's been a while since I
[1:40:05] was at the chamber meeting. But um one
thing that they're looking to do is to
[1:40:09] have like a a a QR code, some stickers
or a pamphlet or something that you put
[1:40:13] in like visitors bags that that'll have
the live calendar of events and and you
[1:40:20] know even at like the Mayfair Theater
using one of those poster boards to put
[1:40:24] in you know here's all your January
events, here's all your February events
[1:40:28] happening in Sulao. They're talking
about life and moments, right? all the
[1:40:31] little things that people get together
and put on uh because we don't have, you
[1:40:37] know, movie theater and bowling alleys,
but what we do is we get together and we
[1:40:41] put on we put on things that that bring
us joy, right? And so, how do you how do
[1:40:45] how do people coming to the the
community find those? Well, we're going
[1:40:49] to have them on the calendar. We'll have
it on that QR code that you just scan
[1:40:52] and and you'll be able to see all the
events. So, that's what they're doing
[1:40:55] with that.
>> Nice.
[1:40:59] » Thank you.
Good. Good to know.
[1:41:04] » Now, before we go too much further,
shouldn't we go back and do a motion for
[1:41:07] the $1,000? Do we need to actually do
the motion, Megan?
[1:41:11] » Oh, okay.
>> Yes, please.
[1:41:13] » Yeah. So, do you want me to do the
motion?
[1:41:16] » Publication.
So, I make a motion that we allocate
[1:41:21] $1,000
of the 2026 TRC funding towards the
[1:41:27] Truth and Reconciliation Gala on
>> April 25th.
[1:41:37] So, we need a seconder, right?
[1:41:43] » 1,000,
right?
[1:41:47] Yeah,
[1:41:51] he louder
[1:41:57] moved. Do you second?
[1:42:02] » All in favor?
[1:42:06] » Yep.
Okay. $1,000 for the galla. And should
[1:42:12] we do the public space $1,000 too?
>> No, I think we have lots.
[1:42:18] » No, that's already been that's already
been done.
[1:42:20] » Oh, okay. I didn't write it down.
>> That was before you went to council.
[1:42:24] » Well, the other thing that we should
probably discuss is ticket prices. Are
[1:42:28] you guys okay with us just once we
figure out I'm meeting with the caterer
[1:42:33] um at the end of January to come up with
the menu? Then they'll come up with a
[1:42:37] price. So once they come up with a
price, then we should just figure out
[1:42:41] how much the tickets are. I think they
should not be a lot.
[1:42:48] Like I I would say under $20. What do
people think of that?
[1:42:53] » What again? [laughter]
[1:42:57] » What I'd like to see cuz I maybe maybe
you already sent it and I didn't. This
[1:43:02] is just me. Uh, I'd like to see some
kind of like estimates just for all the
[1:43:07] costs associated. It just it just kind
of helps plan a little better because I
[1:43:11] know you estimated 10. So, it's like,
oh, okay. And and that might be in that
[1:43:15] file you sent. I'm just not going to
lie. I have
[1:43:17] » Well, we won't know.
>> Yeah, we're still waiting for the prices
[1:43:21] like Michelle has to secure, how much um
Nadia wants to be paid, how much the MC
[1:43:27] and how much the cater those the big
ticket items. Then the other stuff is
[1:43:32] smaller.
>> I don't even have an idea of like the
[1:43:35] ballpark, but I said like we we do we
will be paying you for your time, but I
[1:43:40] for for Nadia, but I don't know um what
our budget is because I know she's she's
[1:43:45] worth a lot when you look at her four
pages of her resume. She's worth a lot.
[1:43:50] » But we should lock it down. we should
try to figure out with her what her at
[1:43:54] least figure out what her expectation is
because if we're going to go out and
[1:43:57] secure um like a sponsor for her, we
need to know what we're what it is. So,
[1:44:03] if we can if you can secure those,
Michelle, the cost of the MC, the cost
[1:44:08] of the uh keynote speaker, and then I
can secure within the next couple of
[1:44:13] weeks the cost of the catering, and then
from there,
[1:44:17] » then we can decide and get our tickets
going. And one thing I do need to
[1:44:22] mention is that if you are going into
agreements with people
[1:44:26] » um the only person who has the authority
to sign those is the CIO. So they would
[1:44:29] need to be brought in.
>> Okay.
[1:44:30] » Um and Brian would have to be the one to
do that.
[1:44:33] » So like the agreement has to be brought
in.
[1:44:36] » Anything that you're binding the
municipality for. Yes. Need to be
[1:44:39] brought in. Yes.
>> To be discussed first before finalized.
[1:44:43] » Um you can you can say yes, this is what
we want to do. I have to go take this
[1:44:48] contract and get it signed. wants the
contract assigned, then you're good. If
[1:44:52] he does have the authority to say no.
>> Okay. Okay.
[1:44:55] » Yeah. And I did have a meeting with
Brian about this because I said, "Well,
[1:44:58] how can we proceed like we're going out
and we're negotiating these things
[1:45:02] without like do we have to keep going
back and forth?" And he said, "No, you
[1:45:05] do have the authority to do the
negotiations, but when you get to that
[1:45:09] final legal contract, you don't have the
authority to sign it. Then you have to
[1:45:13] just like So, you can say to her, let's
just take a figure. Let's say $2,000.
[1:45:18] She wants $2,000." you can say, "Okay,
I'm going to go to the municipality and
[1:45:21] we'll get everything organized." And she
might have a contract like the um Canora
[1:45:26] District Services Board, like they have
a contract, but they donated it in time.
[1:45:30] There's no fee. Um but if there was a
fee, Brian would have to be the one that
[1:45:35] signed that.
>> Okay. One thing is it is um being able
[1:45:39] to fly her here.
>> That's the That's what I was just about
[1:45:42] to ask. Is there travel costs
associated, which then falls under PDM
[1:45:46] or a contract? So, all of this still has
to be done. Yeah, you
[1:45:49] » just need to have it like itemized.
>> Yeah,
[1:45:51] » I would suggest so that you you know
>> this is the itemization for what we ask
[1:45:57] for.
>> Who else would like to be on the
[1:45:59] subcommittee with me as we discuss like
like what we'd like her to do with that
[1:46:03] and how that looks and and then we can
finalize how she brings it together and
[1:46:08] » and a price on that.
>> Have three before we hit quorum.
[1:46:11] » Right.
>> Once you hit quum, we have to have an
[1:46:13] official meeting. It has to be streamed
and we have to be there.
[1:46:15] » Right. Just remind me how many people
are on your committee already.
[1:46:22] » Well, what we've been doing is we've
just been like we've been making working
[1:46:26] committees like you guys did the awards,
the three of you and then like over here
[1:46:30] Michelle and I. So the working committee
is sort of broken down into little
[1:46:35] subsections. So even though there's six
of us on the working committee, we're
[1:46:39] not all working on the same thing at one
time and at the same meeting. It's if
[1:46:43] you're sitting in a room in a meeting
together. So you got that we can only
[1:46:47] have three at a time, but we can all
work on it. But we can only like if
[1:46:52] we're going to do the tickets, we could
have three people together and decide.
[1:46:55] We could have three people like working
on the speaker, but not all together at
[1:47:00] the same time. Do you understand?
>> Yeah.
[1:47:03] » Yeah. That leave that contract on the
subcommittee.
[1:47:07] » I I don't think it needs to come here
unless
[1:47:10] » Yeah. It's three people. You can only
three people on working on one thing at
[1:47:14] the same time. The other option you guys
have is in your terms of reference. It
[1:47:18] does say if you want more frequent
meetings for any specific purpose, we
[1:47:21] could look at more than you know meeting
before February 17th.
[1:47:26] » They have an ad hoc.
>> You are kind of at the mercy of when
[1:47:30] council chambers is available plus when
I'm available. Um
[1:47:37] because I've got it's it's your end.
I've got a lot going on. Um it it so if
[1:47:43] you wanted to look at meeting more
often, we could certainly discuss it.
[1:47:47] » Well, I think we should plan like
towards the end of March like that. We
[1:47:52] have a meeting the last week in March,
the first week in April, and the second
[1:47:55] week in April.
>> Yeah.
[1:47:58] » Last week in March and book them now.
Yeah.
[1:48:01] » Second week in April.
>> No, first week. So we have three
[1:48:04] meetings. Last week, first week of
April, first second week of April.
[1:48:08] » A week for three weeks.
>> Yeah. Yeah. leading up to the event.
[1:48:12] » And I agree with that because if we have
nominations, we still have to go through
[1:48:15] it as a committee. Now, which which now
that Megan's brought that up,
[1:48:21] » did I bring up
>> Are we going to do in camera if we know
[1:48:24] people's nominations, you don't need
them want to know their nominations
[1:48:27] beforehand, did
>> I thought that with the awards that
[1:48:31] » we could go out out of camera? Okay.
Okay. Just just we we would premise it
[1:48:36] within the meeting, but we'd say like,
>> "Okay, I like that." cuz I'm like cuz
[1:48:40] Darlene Brent and I talked about that
and we said how many meetings are we
[1:48:43] going to have to have to go through the
nominations.
[1:48:46] » All right. So, I'm looking at my
calendar for those couple of weeks. Um
[1:48:50] I'm going to need a little bit of
flexibility on on what day because the
[1:48:55] last Tuesday in March I will not be
here. Um so I will need a little bit of
[1:49:01] flexibility to make these dates happen,
but I will have to check council
[1:49:05] chambers availability as well cuz
sometimes they're both in advance. Um,
[1:49:09] » we just want a day every one of those
weeks. Just one day. So, even if they
[1:49:14] don't coincide with the Tuesday, just I
I like I'm just giving that
[1:49:18] recommendation. Just a day a time and
then we'll have to just make it work.
[1:49:22] » Do we think like March 31st? Do you
think that's too late? Like what if we
[1:49:25] did it brought it up one more week and
give us one more week to like go through
[1:49:29] the nominations and get the plaques?
Like
[1:49:31] » I'm with you. I'm with you. That's why I
say like we're
[1:49:34] » second. We can go mid-Marchch and right
after March break week after.
[1:49:38] » Yes.
>> Until the event.
[1:49:40] » Yes.
>> At least have
[1:49:42] » Doesn't matter how much time you give
people. If they're going to leave it to
[1:49:46] the last minute
>> and they and they do, right? They'll
[1:49:49] leave it to the last minute. So if you
give them two weeks, they'll get it in
[1:49:51] in two weeks. If they give them four
weeks, they'll get it in in four weeks.
[1:49:54] Right. So I think if we shorten our time
a little bit and make people think
[1:49:59] faster. Well, I think there's so before
February 1st, you can even ask for the
[1:50:04] end of February. That gives you 12
months to submit. Gives you time to look
[1:50:07] them over. Gives you time to vote on who
is going to be. Um, and that way you
[1:50:12] have enough time to potentially get the
awards personalized.
[1:50:16] » Will that be enough time to have
everything um written out and advertised
[1:50:21] like in the papers and on the radio and
all that stuff? Like
[1:50:24] » paper costs?
>> That gives us five months.
[1:50:27] » Yeah. If you want to do that, you have
to have budget for it. Um, we can put it
[1:50:32] on the website. Um, pretty much at the
drop of a hat. Um, I just need it.
[1:50:37] » We can forward that to our own.
>> I mean, when we send our press release
[1:50:42] to to the paper, then u I'm thinking
that he can he can come forward and
[1:50:49] start doing the story on it
>> on the upcoming.
[1:50:52] » Oh, yeah. I think it as part of a right
as part of a story instead of adding
[1:50:57] » more information.
>> Yeah.
[1:50:59] » Right.
>> To nominate some goal here.
[1:51:02] » Um
yeah.
[1:51:07] » Yeah. I think that would
>> be Yeah. If we cost Yeah. which could
[1:51:13] come out of that thousand.
Again, that thousand is there, but
[1:51:17] whatever is for initial, right?
>> And I'll have to allow Joan to help us
[1:51:22] add,
>> it will probably cost anywhere from
[1:51:24] $250.
>> The last time we took out a newspaper ad
[1:51:29] that was decent size. I believe it was
around $600.
[1:51:33] » Yeah.
>> Um I'm sure there were smaller ones,
[1:51:37] » but they're not they're not
insignificant amounts.
[1:51:42] Um, but I can certainly try and find
what that would be and send it out.
[1:51:49] » Yeah, this circles back to the Chamber
of Commerce website, Facebook page,
[1:51:54] being able to kind of like put that out
there immediately. Um, secondly, when we
[1:51:58] go back to the work plan, I I I'd like
to make the distinction between
[1:52:06] the municipal website has an update on
what the truth and reconciliation
[1:52:13] committee's goals are. Doesn't have to
be the work plan of the year, but just
[1:52:18] say what the committee is for, what was
structured, how it was structured, blah
[1:52:21] blah blah. Um and then the updates we
could possibly use until something moves
[1:52:27] a bit more within within municipality
that that commerce is able to be used
[1:52:33] for all the events so to speak.
>> So for Ryan were talking about the
[1:52:37] Facebook page um because Brian had
questions about uh maintaining a single
[1:52:43] voice um who's going to do the updates.
the the list that that Brent gave us was
[1:52:48] quite involved of when things would be
posted, how they would be posted. I was
[1:52:54] like, but who's doing this?
>> Um, who in the committee has the time
[1:52:58] and the want to do it? Um, and I don't
know that he's gotten those answers yet,
[1:53:04] » which would still be further discussion
because as a volunteer member,
[1:53:08] » it sometimes it is difficult because my
next question is directly to you, Megan.
[1:53:13] I need your help with making sure this
letter like has the same voice even with
[1:53:18] the sponsorship letter. So I can send
you this, but it was Darlene Brent and
[1:53:22] myself that looked over the nomination.
This one first.
[1:53:26] » Yeah, the nomination first. But I would
like it to one obviously have the
[1:53:30] watermark and logo of municipality, but
it was just a subcommittee thing. But we
[1:53:36] need to be able to have that continuity
cuz it looks and sounds better when it
[1:53:41] reads better.
>> Absolutely.
[1:53:43] » Um, so you just want me to go over this
and because I was obviously wondering
[1:53:51] in in my voice because that's what I
used.
[1:53:53] » Yes, definitely. And then
>> yeah in your Megan voice said um but
[1:53:59] then this and I know uh the only thing
is I won't send it to you until I get
[1:54:03] feedback from Brent and Darlene because
it is part of our subcommittee and then
[1:54:06] we'll just kind of move forward but it's
just there's anything
[1:54:09] » got a copy I can start on it. When are
you meeting with your subcommittee?
[1:54:14] » Darlene,
[laughter]
[1:54:18] » I do need to I'd like to finish the
nomination by Friday, like finalize that
[1:54:22] nomination, which would again have
>> Yeah. So, there would be
[1:54:26] » the proper headings and stuff, but
>> week sometime
[1:54:30] » if we could get it by like
next week. Yeah,
[1:54:34] » next week. Okay. Um, these things do
require a signer on them. Who will that
[1:54:40] be?
>> Will that be Darlene as a member of
[1:54:43] council or will that be you as the
person who put it together and that I'm
[1:54:47] assuming is collecting these?
>> Gavin, I'm going to give it to Darlene.
[1:54:50] » Y [laughter]
[1:54:53] as your your staff resource.
>> I'd love it if you collected it because
[1:54:57] then it all goes in. I know Megan's
like, "Come on, Naomi. [laughter]
[1:55:02] » We just love your organizational
skills." How's that?
[1:55:05] » You know what I've had?
If you saw the amount of emails that I
[1:55:10] have that I don't delete, I have I I'm
at like 80% capacity. I have to clean
[1:55:15] that stuff out. So, don't think I'm
organized,
[1:55:18] » but I have preferences.
>> But yes, I can I can work on that. I'll
[1:55:23] work on what you've got here. Um and try
and send you something. What day is
[1:55:27] today? Today's Tuesday. Got counsel
19s. Got interviews
[1:55:34] by Monday.
by Friday because I don't think
[1:55:38] » No, no, next Friday. It wasn't this
Friday. It was next Friday. That way.
[1:55:43] Yes. That's way That way we still have
opportunity to meet as a committee and
[1:55:47] if there's any updates we can send to
you. But I wanted to give you at least a
[1:55:50] template.
>> Well, if I know when your committee is
[1:55:53] actually meeting, I can try and have an
updated version for your meeting for you
[1:55:58] to go over and make changes to and that
way there's less to change.
[1:56:01] » You want to do next Tuesday?
What's your schedule look like?
[1:56:06] » Maybe Wednesday.
>> Yeah, I think I have a meeting.
[1:56:08] » Can I get it by Wednesday? Then
>> Wednesday the 28th. Yeah.
[1:56:13] » Okay.
I will try.
[1:56:17] » Otherwise, I'll just take your notes.
>> That's okay. That's perfect. Thank you.
[1:56:21] » Like I said, unfortunately, it is it is
your end and uh that is when we close
[1:56:26] off all of our pensions and that's my
job. So So I'm busy.
[1:56:34] And it's actuary season and [laughter]
actuary. I like that.
[1:56:38] » No, I we I sent an actuarial report.
It's all it's it's the entire
[1:56:43] municipality sick information and
everything and I have to compile it like
[1:56:48] it takes so much time because each
individual person. Um January, February
[1:56:53] are not normally times that I have time.
>> Right. Well, thank you for this.
[1:56:59] » Um yeah. No, I appreciate that.
>> Okay, so we're done. The uh number eight
[1:57:06] items for discussion then and number
nine, the work plan and we we've already
[1:57:12] talked about that. And number 10, the
next meeting date, February 17,
[1:57:19] unfortunately I'm going to be out of
town. I have uh uh but I mean the
[1:57:25] meeting could still go on.
I'm meeting on the 17th and 18th in
[1:57:32] Toronto with the NAN
uh women's initiative. So
[1:57:39] going to be kind of busy that first day.
>> See if we are quum.
[1:57:44] » Yeah, as long as I guess everybody's
here, Brentton.
[1:57:47] » Well, if you guys want to move it, I'm
actually not going to be here that day
[1:57:50] either.
>> Oh, what day?
[1:57:53] » Michelle on her own. So, if you guys did
want to move it like say up a week to
[1:57:56] the 10th, uh, we [clears throat] can do
that.
[1:57:59] » Yeah, I have nothing on the 10th.
>> That sounds good.
[1:58:02] » Okay.
>> I
[1:58:04] » We wanted
>> I'm I'm not available those two weeks.
[1:58:08] » The 9th to the 20th. I'm I'm not even
here.
[1:58:11] » You want to go back to the 24th then
>> of February?
[1:58:16] » What was the day? I thought you said the
17th.
[1:58:18] » Yeah, 17th was the next meeting date.
It's eight here.
[1:58:22] » Is that pushing it too late?
>> Unless we have our subcommittees getting
[1:58:27] the work done, but
>> I think and we have the working dock. I
[1:58:31] think the 24th will work. That's one
month actually from
[1:58:34] » once we have the letter.
>> Yeah, that's that's smart. Then
[1:58:39] » 24th
>> campaign
[1:58:40] » next meeting date February 24th.
>> I will confirm council chambers is
[1:58:45] available
>> at 11:00 a.m. usual time. Okay. And then
[1:58:51] uh February I mean um our next uh
item is number 11 motion to adjourn.
[1:58:59] Mover
Naomi and Joan
[1:59:07] and all in agreement. Yes. Show of
hands. Yeah. Okay. [laughter]
[1:59:14] And the meeting is now adjourned. So
thank you everybody. We will be
[1:59:19] disconnecting. Goodbye, gentlemen. Yeah.