1 00:00:07,752 --> 00:00:07,971 Good morning. I call 2 00:00:07,971 --> 00:00:08,452 this 3 00:00:08,452 --> 00:00:09,221 sessions Ketch County 4 00:00:09,221 --> 00:00:09,921 commissioners to order. Please 5 00:00:09,921 --> 00:00:10,187 join me in our salute to our 6 00:00:10,187 --> 00:00:12,187 flag 7 00:00:13,658 --> 00:00:15,593 . I 8 00:00:15,593 --> 00:00:16,600 pledge allegiance to 9 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:16,460 the flag of 10 00:00:16,460 --> 00:00:17,628 the United 11 00:00:17,628 --> 00:00:18,663 States 12 00:00:18,663 --> 00:00:20,231 of America 13 00:00:20,231 --> 00:00:20,531 for what 14 00:00:20,531 --> 00:00:20,932 she stands, 15 00:00:20,932 --> 00:00:22,932 one nation 16 00:00:24,936 --> 00:00:25,403 . With liberty and 17 00:00:25,403 --> 00:00:27,403 justice for all 18 00:00:29,540 --> 00:00:31,509 . Good 19 00:00:31,509 --> 00:00:31,842 morning 20 00:00:31,842 --> 00:00:32,176 . 21 00:00:32,176 --> 00:00:32,510 It is 22 00:00:32,510 --> 00:00:33,344 August 23 00:00:33,344 --> 00:00:33,978 31st 24 00:00:33,978 --> 00:00:34,612 , 2026, a 25 00:00:34,612 --> 00:00:35,479 little after 10 o'clock 26 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:36,470 in the 27 00:00:36,470 --> 00:00:38,160 morning, and we are 28 00:00:38,160 --> 00:00:38,383 here 29 00:00:38,383 --> 00:00:38,616 for 30 00:00:38,616 --> 00:00:40,218 a 31 00:00:40,218 --> 00:00:40,718 public 32 00:00:40,718 --> 00:00:41,219 hearing and dealing with 33 00:00:41,219 --> 00:00:42,587 the loomma 34 00:00:42,587 --> 00:00:42,753 fairy punch cards 35 00:00:42,753 --> 00:00:43,220 , 36 00:00:43,220 --> 00:00:44,956 and fair setting 37 00:00:44,956 --> 00:00:45,590 , steve 38 00:00:45,590 --> 00:00:45,857 Folquist, you're gonna take it 39 00:00:45,857 --> 00:00:46,825 away 40 00:00:46,825 --> 00:00:47,258 . Yes 41 00:00:47,258 --> 00:00:47,925 sir, we are. We're 42 00:00:47,925 --> 00:00:49,930 here for purposes of a 43 00:00:49,930 --> 00:00:50,940 public 44 00:00:50,940 --> 00:00:51,129 hearing, um, just to get 45 00:00:51,129 --> 00:00:51,496 things 46 00:00:51,496 --> 00:00:52,163 started 47 00:00:52,163 --> 00:00:53,731 . I have a quick pub a 48 00:00:53,731 --> 00:00:54,199 PowerPoint 49 00:00:54,199 --> 00:00:54,899 presentation here, 50 00:00:54,899 --> 00:00:56,368 uh, we'll go through that 51 00:00:56,368 --> 00:00:56,701 . The 52 00:00:56,701 --> 00:00:57,902 agenda 53 00:00:57,902 --> 00:00:58,436 this 54 00:00:58,436 --> 00:00:59,237 morning I'll make a 55 00:00:59,237 --> 00:01:00,238 quick presentation here about 56 00:01:00,238 --> 00:01:00,905 the 57 00:01:00,905 --> 00:01:01,206 punch card conversion and 58 00:01:01,206 --> 00:01:03,174 the 59 00:01:03,174 --> 00:01:03,808 2025 60 00:01:03,808 --> 00:01:05,430 fares, uh, the board 61 00:01:05,430 --> 00:01:05,610 will then 62 00:01:05,610 --> 00:01:07,378 acknowledge written 63 00:01:07,378 --> 00:01:07,979 acknowledge and written 64 00:01:07,979 --> 00:01:09,414 comments, take oral 65 00:01:09,414 --> 00:01:10,148 comments. I 66 00:01:10,148 --> 00:01:10,549 believe there's been an 67 00:01:10,549 --> 00:01:11,716 executive 68 00:01:11,716 --> 00:01:11,883 session 69 00:01:11,883 --> 00:01:12,584 session 70 00:01:12,584 --> 00:01:13,652 scheduled to be held with 71 00:01:13,652 --> 00:01:14,285 the 72 00:01:14,285 --> 00:01:14,586 board, and the two 73 00:01:14,586 --> 00:01:15,120 potential 74 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,121 actions today are 75 00:01:16,121 --> 00:01:16,288 on the 76 00:01:16,288 --> 00:01:17,122 punch 77 00:01:17,122 --> 00:01:19,240 card conversion resolution and 78 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:19,191 the 2025 fair 79 00:01:19,191 --> 00:01:19,591 setting 80 00:01:19,591 --> 00:01:21,493 resolution 81 00:01:21,493 --> 00:01:23,428 . The reason for the 82 00:01:23,428 --> 00:01:25,530 hearing today is to apply 83 00:01:25,530 --> 00:01:25,797 public works apply to 84 00:01:25,797 --> 00:01:27,632 court 85 00:01:27,632 --> 00:01:28,333 rulings. The recent court 86 00:01:28,333 --> 00:01:29,735 rulings, the public works 87 00:01:29,735 --> 00:01:29,968 proposals has 88 00:01:29,968 --> 00:01:30,302 two 89 00:01:30,302 --> 00:01:30,602 proposals to 90 00:01:30,602 --> 00:01:31,970 Public 91 00:01:31,970 --> 00:01:32,404 works has 92 00:01:32,404 --> 00:01:32,671 two proposals 93 00:01:32,671 --> 00:01:34,390 to 94 00:01:34,390 --> 00:01:34,439 implement 95 00:01:34,439 --> 00:01:34,706 these 96 00:01:34,706 --> 00:01:35,600 rulings. Uh, 97 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,675 one 98 00:01:36,675 --> 00:01:36,909 concerning the punch 99 00:01:36,909 --> 00:01:37,376 card 100 00:01:37,376 --> 00:01:38,610 conversion to 101 00:01:38,610 --> 00:01:39,444 allow unlimited 102 00:01:39,444 --> 00:01:41,113 time to convert and to arrange 103 00:01:41,113 --> 00:01:41,280 for conversion with a 104 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:41,547 phone 105 00:01:41,547 --> 00:01:43,215 call 106 00:01:43,215 --> 00:01:43,649 , and considering 107 00:01:43,649 --> 00:01:45,250 the 108 00:01:45,250 --> 00:01:45,584 2025 109 00:01:45,584 --> 00:01:46,510 setting 110 00:01:46,510 --> 00:01:47,753 , uh, the actual 111 00:01:47,753 --> 00:01:48,253 . The 112 00:01:48,253 --> 00:01:48,754 proposal will 113 00:01:48,754 --> 00:01:50,220 indicate that 114 00:01:50,220 --> 00:01:50,622 the 115 00:01:50,622 --> 00:01:52,491 actual operation and 116 00:01:52,491 --> 00:01:53,158 maintenance expenses matched 117 00:01:53,158 --> 00:01:54,593 the projection and that 118 00:01:54,593 --> 00:01:55,294 no 119 00:01:55,294 --> 00:01:57,262 recalculation is necessary 120 00:01:57,262 --> 00:01:57,596 . 121 00:01:57,596 --> 00:01:59,640 Here's 122 00:01:59,640 --> 00:01:59,765 some history on the 123 00:01:59,765 --> 00:02:01,133 punch card conversion, the 124 00:02:01,133 --> 00:02:01,533 last 125 00:02:01,533 --> 00:02:03,369 resolution 126 00:02:03,369 --> 00:02:04,136 was 2026-0060. It 127 00:02:04,136 --> 00:02:05,571 allowed for a conversion of 128 00:02:05,571 --> 00:02:06,105 all 129 00:02:06,105 --> 00:02:06,372 unexpired punch 130 00:02:06,372 --> 00:02:08,400 cards 131 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:08,674 converted 132 00:02:08,674 --> 00:02:10,750 unexpired punch cards do 133 00:02:10,750 --> 00:02:10,510 not 134 00:02:10,510 --> 00:02:10,876 expire, but 135 00:02:10,876 --> 00:02:11,177 the conversion did 136 00:02:11,177 --> 00:02:12,378 have 137 00:02:12,378 --> 00:02:12,945 a 138 00:02:12,945 --> 00:02:13,312 deadline of 139 00:02:13,312 --> 00:02:14,547 DECEMBER 31 140 00:02:14,547 --> 00:02:14,846 , 141 00:02:14,846 --> 00:02:15,480 2026 142 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:16,582 , and it did require 143 00:02:16,582 --> 00:02:17,283 that 144 00:02:17,283 --> 00:02:17,816 conversion to occur during 145 00:02:17,816 --> 00:02:19,118 office 146 00:02:19,118 --> 00:02:19,952 hours 147 00:02:19,952 --> 00:02:20,219 . The 148 00:02:20,219 --> 00:02:21,387 ruling 149 00:02:21,387 --> 00:02:22,120 said 150 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,522 that within 61 151 00:02:23,522 --> 00:02:23,756 days of 152 00:02:23,756 --> 00:02:24,590 the 153 00:02:24,590 --> 00:02:26,124 ruling of the county needed to 154 00:02:26,124 --> 00:02:26,459 . 155 00:02:26,459 --> 00:02:26,759 Enter 156 00:02:26,759 --> 00:02:28,326 a 157 00:02:28,326 --> 00:02:28,928 resolution establishing 158 00:02:28,928 --> 00:02:29,228 that there's no deadline for 159 00:02:29,228 --> 00:02:30,863 the 160 00:02:30,863 --> 00:02:31,250 conversion of punch cards 161 00:02:31,250 --> 00:02:31,230 , 162 00:02:31,230 --> 00:02:32,564 and 163 00:02:32,564 --> 00:02:33,650 without 164 00:02:33,650 --> 00:02:33,933 otherwise without 165 00:02:33,933 --> 00:02:34,734 unreasonable restrictions 166 00:02:34,734 --> 00:02:35,234 on 167 00:02:35,234 --> 00:02:35,401 terms, conditions 168 00:02:35,401 --> 00:02:36,135 , or 169 00:02:36,135 --> 00:02:38,135 circumstances for conversion 170 00:02:39,238 --> 00:02:39,805 . 171 00:02:39,805 --> 00:02:40,106 Uh, public works 172 00:02:40,106 --> 00:02:41,540 , listened 173 00:02:41,540 --> 00:02:42,275 to 174 00:02:42,275 --> 00:02:42,575 that 175 00:02:42,575 --> 00:02:43,710 and 176 00:02:43,710 --> 00:02:44,210 has 177 00:02:44,210 --> 00:02:44,744 a 178 00:02:44,744 --> 00:02:45,178 resolution 179 00:02:45,178 --> 00:02:46,244 proposed that 180 00:02:46,244 --> 00:02:46,408 would have 181 00:02:46,408 --> 00:02:47,450 no 182 00:02:47,450 --> 00:02:48,348 deadline for a conversion 183 00:02:48,348 --> 00:02:48,510 of 184 00:02:48,510 --> 00:02:49,480 an 185 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:50,483 expired cards and would 186 00:02:50,483 --> 00:02:51,830 arrange 187 00:02:51,830 --> 00:02:51,351 for a conversion time 188 00:02:51,351 --> 00:02:51,617 that 189 00:02:51,617 --> 00:02:53,119 is 190 00:02:53,119 --> 00:02:53,553 acceptable to 191 00:02:53,553 --> 00:02:53,987 the cardholder by 192 00:02:53,987 --> 00:02:55,987 phone call 193 00:02:57,857 --> 00:02:58,910 . Here's some history 194 00:02:58,910 --> 00:02:59,559 on 195 00:02:59,559 --> 00:02:59,892 the 196 00:02:59,892 --> 00:03:00,460 2025 197 00:03:00,460 --> 00:03:01,861 fair setting. It 198 00:03:01,861 --> 00:03:02,529 was 199 00:03:02,529 --> 00:03:04,529 based 200 00:03:05,980 --> 00:03:06,599 on 201 00:03:06,599 --> 00:03:06,965 20230152 202 00:03:06,965 --> 00:03:07,434 resolution 203 00:03:07,434 --> 00:03:08,701 uh dated JULY 204 00:03:08,701 --> 00:03:09,200 27th 205 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:09,369 , 206 00:03:09,369 --> 00:03:10,837 2023. It 207 00:03:10,837 --> 00:03:11,204 requires 208 00:03:11,204 --> 00:03:11,438 a 209 00:03:11,438 --> 00:03:11,738 65% 210 00:03:11,738 --> 00:03:13,440 fair 211 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:13,840 recovery requirement by 212 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,840 DECEMBER 31 213 00:03:15,942 --> 00:03:16,242 , 202528. It 214 00:03:16,242 --> 00:03:17,444 uses 215 00:03:17,444 --> 00:03:17,978 a 216 00:03:17,978 --> 00:03:18,545 five-year 217 00:03:18,545 --> 00:03:19,645 average methodology 218 00:03:19,645 --> 00:03:20,446 , 219 00:03:20,446 --> 00:03:20,747 the evaluation period at 220 00:03:20,747 --> 00:03:22,416 issue 221 00:03:22,416 --> 00:03:24,416 was 2022 222 00:03:24,451 --> 00:03:24,651 to 2020206 in 223 00:03:24,651 --> 00:03:25,418 capital 224 00:03:25,418 --> 00:03:27,521 expenditures were not included 225 00:03:27,521 --> 00:03:27,821 . 226 00:03:27,821 --> 00:03:29,222 And 227 00:03:29,222 --> 00:03:29,522 again, this 228 00:03:29,522 --> 00:03:31,240 is the 229 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:31,758 uh bears 230 00:03:31,758 --> 00:03:32,158 the process that was gone 231 00:03:32,158 --> 00:03:33,860 through in 232 00:03:33,860 --> 00:03:34,261 24. We looked at the 233 00:03:34,261 --> 00:03:35,662 period 234 00:03:35,662 --> 00:03:35,896 of 235 00:03:35,896 --> 00:03:36,463 2022 236 00:03:36,463 --> 00:03:38,432 through 2026 237 00:03:38,432 --> 00:03:38,731 . 238 00:03:38,731 --> 00:03:40,467 2025 239 00:03:40,467 --> 00:03:42,467 projected expenses 240 00:03:43,236 --> 00:03:44,738 . The 241 00:03:44,738 --> 00:03:45,139 2025 fair 242 00:03:45,139 --> 00:03:45,572 setting timeline. 243 00:03:45,572 --> 00:03:46,973 This is the 244 00:03:46,973 --> 00:03:47,574 timeline of the 245 00:03:47,574 --> 00:03:47,975 actions that were taken on 246 00:03:47,975 --> 00:03:49,643 AUGUST 5th 247 00:03:49,643 --> 00:03:49,843 , 20224, there was 248 00:03:49,843 --> 00:03:51,812 a 249 00:03:51,812 --> 00:03:52,112 a presentation to the board 250 00:03:52,112 --> 00:03:52,579 of 251 00:03:52,579 --> 00:03:53,547 commissioners 252 00:03:53,547 --> 00:03:53,947 on 253 00:03:53,947 --> 00:03:54,127 SEPTEMBER 17 254 00:03:54,127 --> 00:03:54,448 , 255 00:03:54,448 --> 00:03:56,448 there was a 256 00:03:57,217 --> 00:03:57,718 public hearing on 257 00:03:57,718 --> 00:03:58,519 OCTOBER 30th 258 00:03:58,519 --> 00:03:59,850 at 24, Public 259 00:03:59,850 --> 00:04:00,387 Works provided an 260 00:04:00,387 --> 00:04:01,121 updated 261 00:04:01,121 --> 00:04:01,388 report on NOVEMBER 262 00:04:01,388 --> 00:04:02,656 26th 263 00:04:02,656 --> 00:04:02,856 of 264 00:04:02,856 --> 00:04:03,490 24, 265 00:04:03,490 --> 00:04:03,790 the board held a work 266 00:04:03,790 --> 00:04:05,590 session 267 00:04:05,590 --> 00:04:05,892 on 268 00:04:05,892 --> 00:04:07,695 DECEMBER 26th of 2024, there 269 00:04:07,695 --> 00:04:08,162 was another public hearing, the 270 00:04:08,162 --> 00:04:09,530 second public 271 00:04:09,530 --> 00:04:09,964 hearing, after 272 00:04:09,964 --> 00:04:11,765 all of that 273 00:04:11,765 --> 00:04:12,650 . On 274 00:04:12,650 --> 00:04:12,599 JANUARY, 275 00:04:12,599 --> 00:04:14,367 JANUARY 21st 276 00:04:14,367 --> 00:04:14,969 , 2025, the Nickel 277 00:04:14,969 --> 00:04:16,360 Brothers Boat Builders 278 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:16,437 contract 279 00:04:16,437 --> 00:04:17,138 was signed 280 00:04:17,138 --> 00:04:18,439 , and on JANUARY 20 281 00:04:18,439 --> 00:04:19,390 , 282 00:04:19,390 --> 00:04:21,390 JANUARY 27th, 2025 283 00:04:21,342 --> 00:04:23,342 , uh resol 284 00:04:23,677 --> 00:04:23,978 Resolution 2025015 set the 285 00:04:23,978 --> 00:04:25,978 fares 286 00:04:27,581 --> 00:04:28,316 . So 287 00:04:28,316 --> 00:04:28,549 the 2025 fair setting 288 00:04:28,549 --> 00:04:30,117 in 289 00:04:30,117 --> 00:04:30,785 the context of the court 290 00:04:30,785 --> 00:04:31,986 ruling, which is the 291 00:04:31,986 --> 00:04:32,620 purpose of 292 00:04:32,620 --> 00:04:33,187 you know, this public hearing 293 00:04:33,187 --> 00:04:33,521 today is because we're on 294 00:04:33,521 --> 00:04:35,189 remand 295 00:04:35,189 --> 00:04:36,791 . The 296 00:04:36,791 --> 00:04:37,391 court ruling found 297 00:04:37,391 --> 00:04:38,559 that the following 298 00:04:38,559 --> 00:04:38,926 are 299 00:04:38,926 --> 00:04:39,593 not 300 00:04:39,593 --> 00:04:41,162 arbitrary and capricious 301 00:04:41,162 --> 00:04:41,762 . The 302 00:04:41,762 --> 00:04:42,290 exclusion of the youth ride 303 00:04:42,290 --> 00:04:43,197 free 304 00:04:43,197 --> 00:04:43,665 and 305 00:04:43,665 --> 00:04:43,998 federal ferry boat 306 00:04:43,998 --> 00:04:44,365 funds 307 00:04:44,365 --> 00:04:44,699 with clarification 308 00:04:44,699 --> 00:04:45,433 whether 309 00:04:45,433 --> 00:04:45,800 the 310 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:46,501 federal ferry boat 311 00:04:46,501 --> 00:04:48,168 funds were actually used 312 00:04:48,168 --> 00:04:48,669 for 313 00:04:48,669 --> 00:04:49,904 o&m increased in 314 00:04:49,904 --> 00:04:50,138 hazmat 315 00:04:50,138 --> 00:04:50,872 charter 316 00:04:50,872 --> 00:04:52,340 fees, elimination of multi 317 00:04:52,340 --> 00:04:53,141 discounts 318 00:04:53,141 --> 00:04:54,409 , increasing ems 319 00:04:54,409 --> 00:04:55,900 after 320 00:04:55,900 --> 00:04:55,209 hours charter fees and 321 00:04:55,209 --> 00:04:55,677 the 322 00:04:55,677 --> 00:04:57,311 public process 323 00:04:57,311 --> 00:04:57,645 . You 324 00:04:57,645 --> 00:04:58,680 engage 325 00:04:58,680 --> 00:04:59,800 with 326 00:04:59,800 --> 00:04:59,414 citizens was 327 00:04:59,414 --> 00:04:59,814 not arbitrary and 328 00:04:59,814 --> 00:05:01,814 capricious 329 00:05:02,500 --> 00:05:03,651 . And so 330 00:05:03,651 --> 00:05:03,918 . And 331 00:05:03,918 --> 00:05:04,760 this 332 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:04,586 is 333 00:05:04,586 --> 00:05:05,787 just directly from 334 00:05:05,787 --> 00:05:05,953 the 335 00:05:05,953 --> 00:05:06,687 court 336 00:05:06,687 --> 00:05:08,322 ruling stating that costs that 337 00:05:08,322 --> 00:05:08,890 are not unusual and 338 00:05:08,890 --> 00:05:10,692 customary 339 00:05:10,692 --> 00:05:11,325 maintenance, but are instead 340 00:05:11,325 --> 00:05:12,894 associated with capital 341 00:05:12,894 --> 00:05:13,161 improvements in the projected 342 00:05:13,161 --> 00:05:15,161 o&m 343 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:17,499 . The 344 00:05:17,499 --> 00:05:17,799 2025 fair 345 00:05:17,799 --> 00:05:18,990 setting 346 00:05:18,990 --> 00:05:19,366 remand 347 00:05:19,366 --> 00:05:19,867 order 348 00:05:19,867 --> 00:05:20,167 also requires that 349 00:05:20,167 --> 00:05:21,736 within 350 00:05:21,736 --> 00:05:22,103 31 days, the county was 351 00:05:22,103 --> 00:05:23,872 to provide 352 00:05:23,872 --> 00:05:24,339 . A detailed 353 00:05:24,339 --> 00:05:24,539 accounting of 354 00:05:24,539 --> 00:05:24,939 expenses 355 00:05:24,939 --> 00:05:26,740 including 356 00:05:26,740 --> 00:05:26,441 the 357 00:05:26,441 --> 00:05:27,175 2025 operations 358 00:05:27,175 --> 00:05:28,743 and maintenance budget for the 359 00:05:28,743 --> 00:05:29,100 Queen's Island Ferry 360 00:05:29,100 --> 00:05:29,443 , including 361 00:05:29,443 --> 00:05:30,445 allocation of 362 00:05:30,445 --> 00:05:30,712 all 363 00:05:30,712 --> 00:05:31,413 vendors, 364 00:05:31,413 --> 00:05:32,714 staff, and other expenses 365 00:05:32,714 --> 00:05:33,548 , and 366 00:05:33,548 --> 00:05:35,183 this was, uh, this has 367 00:05:35,183 --> 00:05:35,684 already 368 00:05:35,684 --> 00:05:36,510 been provided to 369 00:05:36,510 --> 00:05:36,585 the 370 00:05:36,585 --> 00:05:37,319 petitioners in 371 00:05:37,319 --> 00:05:39,319 that case 372 00:05:39,487 --> 00:05:40,589 . The 373 00:05:40,589 --> 00:05:42,323 remand order also required that 374 00:05:42,323 --> 00:05:43,925 within 45 days to 375 00:05:43,925 --> 00:05:44,659 recalculate 376 00:05:44,659 --> 00:05:46,762 the report using only proper 377 00:05:46,762 --> 00:05:47,362 onm expenses, excluding all 378 00:05:47,362 --> 00:05:48,930 capital 379 00:05:48,930 --> 00:05:49,665 costs associated with 380 00:05:49,665 --> 00:05:50,465 engine installations, outdrive 381 00:05:50,465 --> 00:05:50,832 , 382 00:05:50,832 --> 00:05:51,433 extended 383 00:05:51,433 --> 00:05:51,900 dry docking, as you 384 00:05:51,900 --> 00:05:53,900 can see here 385 00:05:55,636 --> 00:05:55,938 . And under 386 00:05:55,938 --> 00:05:56,371 uh yeah 387 00:05:56,371 --> 00:05:57,873 let's keep 388 00:05:57,873 --> 00:05:58,440 moving on. These are 389 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,208 the 390 00:06:00,208 --> 00:06:01,143 two definitions. These are 391 00:06:01,143 --> 00:06:03,450 the applicable standards that 392 00:06:03,450 --> 00:06:04,913 are used for o&m 393 00:06:04,913 --> 00:06:05,800 . Making 394 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:05,547 that 395 00:06:05,547 --> 00:06:07,282 determination 396 00:06:07,282 --> 00:06:08,483 . And you can see 397 00:06:08,483 --> 00:06:08,717 , 398 00:06:08,717 --> 00:06:10,717 um 399 00:06:11,353 --> 00:06:11,954 . These are 400 00:06:11,954 --> 00:06:13,255 just some 401 00:06:13,255 --> 00:06:13,489 uh this 402 00:06:13,489 --> 00:06:13,756 is 403 00:06:13,756 --> 00:06:14,356 just 404 00:06:14,356 --> 00:06:15,491 those standards 405 00:06:15,491 --> 00:06:16,125 , uh 406 00:06:16,125 --> 00:06:16,458 . 407 00:06:16,458 --> 00:06:18,360 Verbatim 408 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:18,523 Not verbatim, but 409 00:06:18,523 --> 00:06:18,761 some 410 00:06:18,761 --> 00:06:20,629 of 411 00:06:20,629 --> 00:06:22,970 the more germane points 412 00:06:22,970 --> 00:06:22,431 . 413 00:06:22,431 --> 00:06:23,232 That's 414 00:06:23,232 --> 00:06:24,800 As 415 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,100 pertains to the uh 416 00:06:26,100 --> 00:06:28,100 Administrative code 417 00:06:28,971 --> 00:06:29,204 . Here 418 00:06:29,204 --> 00:06:29,772 we 419 00:06:29,772 --> 00:06:31,772 have um 420 00:06:32,740 --> 00:06:33,943 These are 421 00:06:33,943 --> 00:06:34,809 the 2025 422 00:06:34,809 --> 00:06:35,911 projected expenses from 423 00:06:35,911 --> 00:06:36,345 the 424 00:06:36,345 --> 00:06:36,679 2024 report 425 00:06:36,679 --> 00:06:38,130 . You 426 00:06:38,130 --> 00:06:40,130 can see 427 00:06:40,816 --> 00:06:42,816 $4,690,434 428 00:06:43,219 --> 00:06:43,452 . These 429 00:06:43,452 --> 00:06:44,620 are 430 00:06:44,620 --> 00:06:44,821 the 431 00:06:44,821 --> 00:06:45,254 steps 432 00:06:45,254 --> 00:06:47,254 taken, uh 433 00:06:47,823 --> 00:06:49,823 , 2025 fair setting 434 00:06:49,825 --> 00:06:50,393 . 435 00:06:50,393 --> 00:06:51,828 Uh, the Nickel 436 00:06:51,828 --> 00:06:52,528 Brothers 437 00:06:52,528 --> 00:06:54,163 boatbuilders contract capital 438 00:06:54,163 --> 00:06:54,797 expenses were received by the 439 00:06:54,797 --> 00:06:56,165 court to be attributed 440 00:06:56,165 --> 00:06:56,365 to o&m 441 00:06:56,365 --> 00:06:57,133 . 442 00:06:57,133 --> 00:06:58,501 The contract was not available 443 00:06:58,501 --> 00:06:58,935 in OCTOBER 444 00:06:58,935 --> 00:07:00,403 of 2024 and 445 00:07:00,403 --> 00:07:00,568 was 446 00:07:00,568 --> 00:07:01,304 not 447 00:07:01,304 --> 00:07:03,405 considered when the rates were 448 00:07:03,405 --> 00:07:04,700 proposed after Nickel Brothers 449 00:07:04,700 --> 00:07:05,207 boat builders's 450 00:07:05,207 --> 00:07:05,842 work was 451 00:07:05,842 --> 00:07:07,476 completed in 2025. The 452 00:07:07,476 --> 00:07:07,911 actual 453 00:07:07,911 --> 00:07:09,545 expenses were 454 00:07:09,545 --> 00:07:10,130 apportioned 455 00:07:10,130 --> 00:07:10,647 between operation and 456 00:07:10,647 --> 00:07:12,515 maintenance and capital 457 00:07:12,515 --> 00:07:14,160 . And 458 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:14,717 uh 459 00:07:14,717 --> 00:07:14,984 this information is, is really 460 00:07:14,984 --> 00:07:16,319 just 461 00:07:16,319 --> 00:07:16,786 provided 462 00:07:16,786 --> 00:07:17,487 um with this 463 00:07:17,487 --> 00:07:18,855 information here was also 464 00:07:18,855 --> 00:07:19,355 already provided to the 465 00:07:19,355 --> 00:07:20,957 petitioners, but 466 00:07:20,957 --> 00:07:21,357 it's 467 00:07:21,357 --> 00:07:21,658 just uh 468 00:07:21,658 --> 00:07:23,226 some 469 00:07:23,226 --> 00:07:23,993 additional detail as to 470 00:07:23,993 --> 00:07:26,162 how that was broken down 471 00:07:26,162 --> 00:07:26,563 . 472 00:07:26,563 --> 00:07:27,697 Anybody's 473 00:07:27,697 --> 00:07:29,697 Interested 474 00:07:32,350 --> 00:07:32,402 . These 475 00:07:32,402 --> 00:07:34,402 were the 476 00:07:34,604 --> 00:07:35,204 expense categories. We 477 00:07:35,204 --> 00:07:36,606 looked at the following 478 00:07:36,606 --> 00:07:36,973 expense 479 00:07:36,973 --> 00:07:38,973 categories 480 00:07:39,420 --> 00:07:39,208 . And you 481 00:07:39,208 --> 00:07:39,576 can see 482 00:07:39,576 --> 00:07:40,430 that the 483 00:07:40,430 --> 00:07:42,430 actual expenses 484 00:07:45,848 --> 00:07:46,282 . 485 00:07:46,282 --> 00:07:48,282 $4694,137.90 486 00:07:48,785 --> 00:07:50,785 . So 487 00:07:50,954 --> 00:07:52,322 , In 488 00:07:52,322 --> 00:07:52,589 summary, 489 00:07:52,589 --> 00:07:54,589 uh 490 00:07:55,910 --> 00:07:55,359 , The 491 00:07:55,359 --> 00:07:55,625 2025 492 00:07:55,625 --> 00:07:56,827 rates 493 00:07:56,827 --> 00:07:57,127 were 494 00:07:57,127 --> 00:07:57,828 set 495 00:07:57,828 --> 00:07:59,196 using 2025 496 00:07:59,196 --> 00:07:59,563 projected 2025 497 00:07:59,563 --> 00:08:01,398 expenses 498 00:08:01,398 --> 00:08:01,732 . The 499 00:08:01,732 --> 00:08:02,299 225 Nickel 500 00:08:02,299 --> 00:08:03,533 Brothers boat builder 501 00:08:03,533 --> 00:08:04,167 contract 502 00:08:04,167 --> 00:08:04,434 was not part of the 503 00:08:04,434 --> 00:08:06,270 2025 504 00:08:06,270 --> 00:08:08,710 projected expenses 505 00:08:08,710 --> 00:08:08,672 . Actual 506 00:08:08,672 --> 00:08:09,306 expenses properly apportioned 507 00:08:09,306 --> 00:08:10,274 were properly apportioned 508 00:08:10,274 --> 00:08:10,741 to 509 00:08:10,741 --> 00:08:11,410 o&m and 510 00:08:11,410 --> 00:08:12,643 Capital 511 00:08:12,643 --> 00:08:12,976 , all 512 00:08:12,976 --> 00:08:13,477 2025 513 00:08:13,477 --> 00:08:15,212 actual expenses 514 00:08:15,212 --> 00:08:15,713 , evaluated 515 00:08:15,713 --> 00:08:17,381 under these two 516 00:08:17,381 --> 00:08:18,115 standards, and 517 00:08:18,115 --> 00:08:19,682 has apportioned by the county 518 00:08:19,682 --> 00:08:20,150 , 519 00:08:20,150 --> 00:08:20,784 actual o&m was 520 00:08:20,784 --> 00:08:22,850 nearly identical 521 00:08:22,850 --> 00:08:22,319 to the 522 00:08:22,319 --> 00:08:22,820 to 523 00:08:22,820 --> 00:08:24,540 the projection, as 524 00:08:24,540 --> 00:08:24,388 you can see 525 00:08:24,388 --> 00:08:24,687 . The 526 00:08:24,687 --> 00:08:25,550 actual is 527 00:08:25,550 --> 00:08:26,156 actually 528 00:08:26,156 --> 00:08:26,690 just 529 00:08:26,690 --> 00:08:27,124 slightly higher 530 00:08:27,124 --> 00:08:29,124 by roughly 90 531 00:08:29,260 --> 00:08:31,260 . $394,000 532 00:08:33,564 --> 00:08:33,864 . Excuse 533 00:08:33,864 --> 00:08:35,833 me 534 00:08:35,833 --> 00:08:37,367 , $4000. What am I talking 535 00:08:37,367 --> 00:08:37,935 about? Just 536 00:08:37,935 --> 00:08:38,235 $4000 but 537 00:08:38,235 --> 00:08:40,137 . You 538 00:08:40,137 --> 00:08:40,538 . Ah, 539 00:08:40,538 --> 00:08:42,600 very close 540 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:42,773 . Remarkable 541 00:08:42,773 --> 00:08:44,773 . Yeah 542 00:08:44,975 --> 00:08:45,443 . 543 00:08:45,443 --> 00:08:46,544 Great. So, that 544 00:08:46,544 --> 00:08:47,311 is it. That, 545 00:08:47,311 --> 00:08:48,979 that is, that concludes 546 00:08:48,979 --> 00:08:49,580 my 547 00:08:49,580 --> 00:08:49,980 presentation. All right. So, 548 00:08:49,980 --> 00:08:50,848 we'll open 549 00:08:50,848 --> 00:08:51,820 it up 550 00:08:51,820 --> 00:08:51,649 to public 551 00:08:51,649 --> 00:08:53,450 comment. Thank you 552 00:08:53,450 --> 00:08:53,985 , Steve. MR., 553 00:08:53,985 --> 00:08:55,485 do you have any 554 00:08:55,485 --> 00:08:55,720 questions 555 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:56,387 for 556 00:08:56,387 --> 00:08:57,421 Steve? I do not. That 557 00:08:57,421 --> 00:08:58,155 was very 558 00:08:58,155 --> 00:09:00,240 clear. Thank you, Mr 559 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:00,658 . Burns. I 560 00:09:00,658 --> 00:09:01,910 do have a question. Could you 561 00:09:01,910 --> 00:09:02,460 go back 2 or 562 00:09:02,460 --> 00:09:02,760 3 slides for me? 563 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,760 Sure 564 00:09:06,898 --> 00:09:08,898 . Yeah, um 565 00:09:11,269 --> 00:09:11,903 . So these are 566 00:09:11,903 --> 00:09:14,380 all numbers that were 567 00:09:14,380 --> 00:09:15,540 Determined 568 00:09:15,540 --> 00:09:15,873 in 569 00:09:15,873 --> 00:09:16,474 2024 when they 570 00:09:16,474 --> 00:09:16,874 were trying to set the rates 571 00:09:16,874 --> 00:09:18,900 for 2025 572 00:09:18,900 --> 00:09:18,343 , correct? This 573 00:09:18,343 --> 00:09:19,109 is all 574 00:09:19,109 --> 00:09:20,445 information that was available 575 00:09:20,445 --> 00:09:20,678 at that time 576 00:09:20,678 --> 00:09:22,514 . No 577 00:09:22,514 --> 00:09:22,981 . No 578 00:09:22,981 --> 00:09:24,649 . Well 579 00:09:24,649 --> 00:09:25,350 , I 580 00:09:25,350 --> 00:09:26,885 mean, this information 581 00:09:26,885 --> 00:09:27,552 , um, I 582 00:09:27,552 --> 00:09:27,785 think it'd probably be better 583 00:09:27,785 --> 00:09:29,153 if 584 00:09:29,153 --> 00:09:29,887 we had 585 00:09:29,887 --> 00:09:30,155 questions relating to 586 00:09:30,155 --> 00:09:31,656 this 587 00:09:31,656 --> 00:09:32,156 presentation to take them 588 00:09:32,156 --> 00:09:34,156 in another forum 589 00:09:34,325 --> 00:09:34,759 . Than here. I, 590 00:09:34,759 --> 00:09:36,361 I really 591 00:09:36,361 --> 00:09:37,162 don't have an answer 592 00:09:37,162 --> 00:09:40,598 for you right now. Ok, sorry 593 00:09:40,598 --> 00:09:41,266 . 594 00:09:41,266 --> 00:09:42,901 Ok, thank you 595 00:09:42,901 --> 00:09:43,301 very much 596 00:09:43,301 --> 00:09:43,735 . So 597 00:09:43,735 --> 00:09:45,360 we'll go on 598 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:45,369 to 599 00:09:45,369 --> 00:09:45,937 the public 600 00:09:45,937 --> 00:09:47,839 comment on this now 601 00:09:47,839 --> 00:09:47,999 ? Mr 602 00:09:47,999 --> 00:09:48,506 . 603 00:09:48,506 --> 00:09:49,341 Browning, you have 604 00:09:49,341 --> 00:09:50,141 a list of 605 00:09:50,141 --> 00:09:50,408 people who signed up. I do, and 606 00:09:50,408 --> 00:09:52,430 I'll 607 00:09:52,430 --> 00:09:52,744 do as I usually do. We'll 608 00:09:52,744 --> 00:09:53,811 start with the name and 609 00:09:53,811 --> 00:09:54,612 then 610 00:09:54,612 --> 00:09:54,913 the person who's next, so that 611 00:09:54,913 --> 00:09:56,140 person 612 00:09:56,140 --> 00:09:56,481 can 613 00:09:56,481 --> 00:09:56,643 be prepared and 614 00:09:56,643 --> 00:09:56,948 in 615 00:09:56,948 --> 00:09:58,948 baseball 616 00:09:59,830 --> 00:09:59,417 . Season we will call 617 00:09:59,417 --> 00:10:01,119 them the 618 00:10:01,119 --> 00:10:01,620 people on deck. So 619 00:10:01,620 --> 00:10:02,988 starting with 620 00:10:02,988 --> 00:10:03,287 Michael Brown 621 00:10:03,287 --> 00:10:03,955 and 622 00:10:03,955 --> 00:10:06,355 Jodie Menkins on deck 623 00:10:16,835 --> 00:10:18,804 . Michael 624 00:10:18,804 --> 00:10:19,304 Brown 4366 625 00:10:19,304 --> 00:10:19,570 Clark Point 626 00:10:19,570 --> 00:10:20,706 Road 627 00:10:20,706 --> 00:10:21,206 , 628 00:10:21,206 --> 00:10:23,206 Guaymas Island 629 00:10:25,744 --> 00:10:26,245 . I can't believe 630 00:10:26,245 --> 00:10:28,245 we're still here 631 00:10:28,547 --> 00:10:29,748 . After 632 00:10:29,748 --> 00:10:30,182 , uh, 633 00:10:30,182 --> 00:10:30,449 all of our 634 00:10:30,449 --> 00:10:32,449 work 635 00:10:32,785 --> 00:10:33,180 , Grimas Island 636 00:10:33,180 --> 00:10:34,687 to 637 00:10:34,687 --> 00:10:36,687 point out 638 00:10:37,890 --> 00:10:37,422 , uh, uh, the 639 00:10:37,422 --> 00:10:37,790 , uh, 640 00:10:37,790 --> 00:10:39,191 errors in 641 00:10:39,191 --> 00:10:39,558 the 642 00:10:39,558 --> 00:10:40,920 calculations, and 643 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:41,327 we're still here 644 00:10:41,327 --> 00:10:41,594 talking about 645 00:10:41,594 --> 00:10:42,940 it 646 00:10:42,940 --> 00:10:43,328 . I 647 00:10:43,328 --> 00:10:43,729 am 648 00:10:43,729 --> 00:10:44,530 surprised today to 649 00:10:44,530 --> 00:10:46,599 learn that we actually have a 650 00:10:46,599 --> 00:10:46,999 . 651 00:10:46,999 --> 00:10:48,330 An appeal 652 00:10:48,330 --> 00:10:48,534 from 653 00:10:48,534 --> 00:10:48,834 the county for 654 00:10:48,834 --> 00:10:50,369 the 655 00:10:50,369 --> 00:10:51,300 remand order 656 00:10:51,300 --> 00:10:52,238 , but we won 657 00:10:52,238 --> 00:10:52,738 3 658 00:10:52,738 --> 00:10:53,139 times in court 659 00:10:53,139 --> 00:10:53,472 . The court 660 00:10:53,472 --> 00:10:55,700 agreed 661 00:10:55,700 --> 00:10:55,274 . That 662 00:10:55,274 --> 00:10:56,776 there 663 00:10:56,776 --> 00:10:57,760 are 664 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:57,976 serious 665 00:10:57,976 --> 00:10:59,712 errors in your calculations 666 00:10:59,712 --> 00:11:00,412 . 667 00:11:00,412 --> 00:11:01,681 Now we find today that 668 00:11:01,681 --> 00:11:02,181 in fact 669 00:11:02,181 --> 00:11:02,614 there are none 670 00:11:02,614 --> 00:11:02,848 . Is that correct 671 00:11:02,848 --> 00:11:04,450 ? 672 00:11:04,450 --> 00:11:06,419 But 673 00:11:06,419 --> 00:11:07,190 in fact the court said 674 00:11:07,190 --> 00:11:08,153 there was 675 00:11:08,153 --> 00:11:08,621 , so 676 00:11:08,621 --> 00:11:09,222 we're still here 677 00:11:09,222 --> 00:11:11,222 talking about this 678 00:11:13,459 --> 00:11:14,600 . And uh for 679 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:14,794 the life of me, I 680 00:11:14,794 --> 00:11:15,161 can't 681 00:11:15,161 --> 00:11:15,795 understand 682 00:11:15,795 --> 00:11:17,795 . Why 683 00:11:17,864 --> 00:11:18,970 We haven't had 684 00:11:18,970 --> 00:11:19,999 a 685 00:11:19,999 --> 00:11:20,433 seat at the table to go over 686 00:11:20,433 --> 00:11:21,801 these numbers 687 00:11:21,801 --> 00:11:21,962 with you guys 688 00:11:21,962 --> 00:11:22,301 . 689 00:11:22,301 --> 00:11:22,568 We've asked 690 00:11:22,568 --> 00:11:24,137 this 691 00:11:24,137 --> 00:11:25,400 numerous times 692 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:26,405 This 693 00:11:26,405 --> 00:11:26,973 is yet again another 694 00:11:26,973 --> 00:11:28,274 reason why we need 695 00:11:28,274 --> 00:11:28,641 to 696 00:11:28,641 --> 00:11:29,309 have the 697 00:11:29,309 --> 00:11:30,743 ferry committee or an 698 00:11:30,743 --> 00:11:31,644 advisory 699 00:11:31,644 --> 00:11:32,278 committee re-established on the 700 00:11:32,278 --> 00:11:33,120 island to be able to 701 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:33,412 have 702 00:11:33,412 --> 00:11:33,746 this 703 00:11:33,746 --> 00:11:35,381 dialogue 704 00:11:35,381 --> 00:11:35,782 between because 705 00:11:35,782 --> 00:11:36,810 . I 706 00:11:36,810 --> 00:11:38,810 think 707 00:11:38,351 --> 00:11:38,618 Commissioner Wieson last 708 00:11:38,618 --> 00:11:39,919 week 709 00:11:39,919 --> 00:11:40,253 you bemoaned the 710 00:11:40,253 --> 00:11:40,753 fact that 711 00:11:40,753 --> 00:11:41,988 the county 712 00:11:41,988 --> 00:11:42,722 has 713 00:11:42,722 --> 00:11:44,424 to have 714 00:11:44,424 --> 00:11:46,424 a 715 00:11:46,426 --> 00:11:47,930 legal 716 00:11:47,930 --> 00:11:48,995 uh uh bills 717 00:11:48,995 --> 00:11:49,396 . Piling 718 00:11:49,396 --> 00:11:49,629 up 719 00:11:49,629 --> 00:11:51,131 and 720 00:11:51,131 --> 00:11:51,831 for 721 00:11:51,831 --> 00:11:52,299 various situations that happen 722 00:11:52,299 --> 00:11:53,266 in the county 723 00:11:53,266 --> 00:11:53,567 , but 724 00:11:53,567 --> 00:11:53,933 here's 725 00:11:53,933 --> 00:11:55,535 perfect 726 00:11:55,535 --> 00:11:56,369 example where all of 727 00:11:56,369 --> 00:11:59,369 this could have been, uh 728 00:11:59,806 --> 00:12:00,707 , 729 00:12:00,707 --> 00:12:01,207 Addressed by residents and 730 00:12:01,207 --> 00:12:02,542 staff, but 731 00:12:02,542 --> 00:12:03,343 in fact 732 00:12:03,343 --> 00:12:05,343 , We're still 733 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:06,379 here talking about this. You 734 00:12:06,379 --> 00:12:06,847 had to 735 00:12:06,847 --> 00:12:07,480 pay 736 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:08,949 money for 737 00:12:08,949 --> 00:12:09,816 legal work 738 00:12:09,816 --> 00:12:11,351 We had to 739 00:12:11,351 --> 00:12:11,651 raise money on 740 00:12:11,651 --> 00:12:12,285 the 741 00:12:12,285 --> 00:12:13,886 island to fight this 742 00:12:13,886 --> 00:12:14,470 . And 743 00:12:14,470 --> 00:12:14,421 we 744 00:12:14,421 --> 00:12:16,421 won 3 times 745 00:12:18,692 --> 00:12:19,590 . Ok 746 00:12:19,590 --> 00:12:20,227 ? So, why 747 00:12:20,227 --> 00:12:20,961 are we 748 00:12:20,961 --> 00:12:21,328 still here? Why are we still 749 00:12:21,328 --> 00:12:22,596 arguing 750 00:12:22,596 --> 00:12:23,960 about 751 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:23,563 this? We will 752 00:12:23,563 --> 00:12:24,631 show today that 753 00:12:24,631 --> 00:12:24,931 in 754 00:12:24,931 --> 00:12:25,532 fact 755 00:12:25,532 --> 00:12:27,200 we have 756 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:27,601 uh, we have 757 00:12:27,601 --> 00:12:28,350 numbers that we 758 00:12:28,350 --> 00:12:29,503 keep wanting 759 00:12:29,503 --> 00:12:30,337 to sit down with 760 00:12:30,337 --> 00:12:32,720 you to talk about, and you guys 761 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:32,406 are not engaging 762 00:12:32,406 --> 00:12:32,739 with us. Why 763 00:12:32,739 --> 00:12:34,739 is that 764 00:12:36,910 --> 00:12:38,312 ? I mean 765 00:12:38,312 --> 00:12:38,645 , we 766 00:12:38,645 --> 00:12:39,460 actually 767 00:12:39,460 --> 00:12:39,480 , 768 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,581 we actually 769 00:12:40,581 --> 00:12:40,781 email you 770 00:12:40,781 --> 00:12:41,482 guys and 771 00:12:41,482 --> 00:12:42,849 say we'd like a response 772 00:12:42,849 --> 00:12:43,316 . It's, 773 00:12:43,316 --> 00:12:45,119 it is crickets 774 00:12:45,119 --> 00:12:45,486 . We 775 00:12:45,486 --> 00:12:45,986 have this 776 00:12:45,986 --> 00:12:47,388 information we 777 00:12:47,388 --> 00:12:48,188 can provide it 778 00:12:48,188 --> 00:12:49,590 for you today. In fact, we 779 00:12:49,590 --> 00:12:50,324 did 780 00:12:50,324 --> 00:12:51,592 this morning. I think 781 00:12:51,592 --> 00:12:52,426 it's 782 00:12:52,426 --> 00:12:53,861 germane for you to look 783 00:12:53,861 --> 00:12:54,561 at 784 00:12:54,561 --> 00:12:54,795 yourselves and say, What 785 00:12:54,795 --> 00:12:56,196 are 786 00:12:56,196 --> 00:12:56,797 we 787 00:12:56,797 --> 00:12:57,310 doing wrong? Why are 788 00:12:57,310 --> 00:12:57,298 we 789 00:12:57,298 --> 00:12:58,866 still 790 00:12:58,866 --> 00:12:59,200 wasting time on this 791 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,100 . I 792 00:13:01,100 --> 00:13:03,100 I, it's 793 00:13:03,304 --> 00:13:03,704 It's staggering to me. You'll 794 00:13:03,704 --> 00:13:05,572 hear from 795 00:13:05,572 --> 00:13:05,906 Our 796 00:13:05,906 --> 00:13:06,140 residents 797 00:13:06,140 --> 00:13:06,440 here 798 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:07,942 today 799 00:13:07,942 --> 00:13:08,109 , why we are 800 00:13:08,109 --> 00:13:08,476 still 801 00:13:08,476 --> 00:13:10,244 fighting 802 00:13:10,244 --> 00:13:10,444 this because it's 803 00:13:10,444 --> 00:13:10,745 not 804 00:13:10,745 --> 00:13:12,279 fair 805 00:13:12,279 --> 00:13:12,812 . That 806 00:13:12,812 --> 00:13:14,115 you're using 807 00:13:14,115 --> 00:13:14,382 tainted 808 00:13:14,382 --> 00:13:16,382 data 809 00:13:16,717 --> 00:13:17,451 . To 810 00:13:17,451 --> 00:13:17,818 project fares moving 811 00:13:17,818 --> 00:13:19,620 forward 812 00:13:19,620 --> 00:13:20,988 . Thank you 813 00:13:20,988 --> 00:13:21,170 . I, I 814 00:13:21,170 --> 00:13:21,722 , I 815 00:13:21,722 --> 00:13:21,989 would like to hear 816 00:13:21,989 --> 00:13:23,257 from 817 00:13:23,257 --> 00:13:23,824 you 818 00:13:23,824 --> 00:13:25,626 guys after this, ok 819 00:13:25,626 --> 00:13:27,626 ? Thank you 820 00:13:28,620 --> 00:13:28,596 . 821 00:13:28,596 --> 00:13:29,930 Jodie Meekins with 822 00:13:29,930 --> 00:13:30,970 Glenn 823 00:13:30,970 --> 00:13:30,465 Veal 824 00:13:30,465 --> 00:13:32,465 on deck 825 00:13:34,702 --> 00:13:36,702 . Is Jody online 826 00:13:39,741 --> 00:13:39,909 Is 827 00:13:39,909 --> 00:13:40,208 Jody 828 00:13:40,208 --> 00:13:42,208 online 829 00:13:43,745 --> 00:13:45,980 Oh, that must be 830 00:13:45,980 --> 00:13:46,314 . Ok 831 00:13:46,314 --> 00:13:46,748 , 832 00:13:46,748 --> 00:13:48,748 Glenn Beal 833 00:13:48,983 --> 00:13:50,752 . Glenn Vale's 834 00:13:50,752 --> 00:13:50,917 Oh 835 00:13:50,917 --> 00:13:51,286 , ok 836 00:13:51,286 --> 00:13:53,286 right there 837 00:13:53,688 --> 00:13:55,688 . Alright. Oh GOD 838 00:13:56,791 --> 00:13:57,392 . 839 00:13:57,392 --> 00:13:59,260 Go ahead, Jodie 840 00:13:59,260 --> 00:13:59,494 . Can 841 00:13:59,494 --> 00:13:59,828 you hear 842 00:13:59,828 --> 00:14:01,828 me? Yes 843 00:14:01,830 --> 00:14:02,263 . Ok 844 00:14:02,263 --> 00:14:02,664 . Um 845 00:14:02,664 --> 00:14:03,998 , I wanted 846 00:14:03,998 --> 00:14:04,599 to 847 00:14:04,599 --> 00:14:06,167 address today 848 00:14:06,167 --> 00:14:07,200 , um, some 849 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,637 comments that have been made 850 00:14:08,637 --> 00:14:09,104 , 851 00:14:09,104 --> 00:14:11,104 um, that follow 852 00:14:11,106 --> 00:14:13,106 fair 853 00:14:14,943 --> 00:14:15,409 . 854 00:14:15,409 --> 00:14:15,944 Calculations or 855 00:14:15,944 --> 00:14:17,579 presented 856 00:14:17,579 --> 00:14:17,912 calculations 857 00:14:17,912 --> 00:14:18,313 , however 858 00:14:18,313 --> 00:14:18,580 , um, they 859 00:14:18,580 --> 00:14:20,182 do 860 00:14:20,182 --> 00:14:20,549 . Go 861 00:14:20,549 --> 00:14:21,783 back as 862 00:14:21,783 --> 00:14:22,584 far 863 00:14:22,584 --> 00:14:23,919 as 24 864 00:14:23,919 --> 00:14:24,219 , um, 865 00:14:24,219 --> 00:14:24,753 on a 866 00:14:24,753 --> 00:14:26,421 consistent basis 867 00:14:26,421 --> 00:14:27,540 , the 868 00:14:27,540 --> 00:14:28,657 county has reported 869 00:14:28,657 --> 00:14:29,424 , as have 870 00:14:29,424 --> 00:14:31,126 other places, but the county 871 00:14:31,126 --> 00:14:31,860 has 872 00:14:31,860 --> 00:14:33,428 reported that the race 873 00:14:33,428 --> 00:14:33,729 between 24 874 00:14:33,729 --> 00:14:35,497 and 25 875 00:14:35,497 --> 00:14:36,498 went up a 876 00:14:36,498 --> 00:14:37,499 consistent 877 00:14:37,499 --> 00:14:37,799 30% 878 00:14:37,799 --> 00:14:38,320 in 25 879 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:38,193 to 880 00:14:38,193 --> 00:14:38,567 26, 881 00:14:38,567 --> 00:14:39,834 they went 882 00:14:39,834 --> 00:14:40,735 up 883 00:14:40,735 --> 00:14:42,437 another 30% and 884 00:14:42,437 --> 00:14:42,938 you're proposing 885 00:14:42,938 --> 00:14:44,439 a 886 00:14:44,439 --> 00:14:45,307 14% increase 887 00:14:45,307 --> 00:14:47,307 for 27 888 00:14:47,342 --> 00:14:47,876 , uh, additionally, in 889 00:14:47,876 --> 00:14:49,100 the meeting we had 890 00:14:49,100 --> 00:14:49,645 , I believe 891 00:14:49,645 --> 00:14:51,180 it was last week on the 892 00:14:51,180 --> 00:14:51,713 . 19th 893 00:14:51,713 --> 00:14:52,214 , 894 00:14:52,214 --> 00:14:53,515 uh, Rachel said 895 00:14:53,515 --> 00:14:53,916 directly that 896 00:14:53,916 --> 00:14:54,349 she was 897 00:14:54,349 --> 00:14:55,918 willing to 898 00:14:55,918 --> 00:14:57,918 hear input 899 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:58,887 and 900 00:14:58,887 --> 00:15:00,122 suggestions on what to 901 00:15:00,122 --> 00:15:00,855 do 902 00:15:00,855 --> 00:15:02,290 relating 903 00:15:02,290 --> 00:15:02,525 to 904 00:15:02,525 --> 00:15:04,525 the 905 00:15:04,660 --> 00:15:05,293 horrible 906 00:15:05,293 --> 00:15:05,628 Saraelasticity that the 907 00:15:05,628 --> 00:15:07,462 county 908 00:15:07,462 --> 00:15:08,964 raising rates 909 00:15:08,964 --> 00:15:09,298 has 910 00:15:09,298 --> 00:15:09,531 created and 911 00:15:09,531 --> 00:15:10,232 uh 912 00:15:10,232 --> 00:15:11,367 . I wanted 913 00:15:11,367 --> 00:15:11,734 to 914 00:15:11,734 --> 00:15:11,933 just 915 00:15:11,933 --> 00:15:12,301 quickly 916 00:15:12,301 --> 00:15:13,869 say that 917 00:15:13,869 --> 00:15:15,738 Um 918 00:15:15,738 --> 00:15:16,539 , My 919 00:15:16,539 --> 00:15:16,972 recent 920 00:15:16,972 --> 00:15:18,140 calculations 921 00:15:18,140 --> 00:15:18,440 on 922 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,275 the 923 00:15:19,275 --> 00:15:20,910 fare 924 00:15:20,910 --> 00:15:21,310 increases 925 00:15:21,310 --> 00:15:23,310 between 926 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:25,581 2024, and I'm 927 00:15:25,581 --> 00:15:25,848 talking for 928 00:15:25,848 --> 00:15:26,414 a 929 00:15:26,414 --> 00:15:26,716 senior 930 00:15:26,716 --> 00:15:27,415 drive-on 931 00:15:27,415 --> 00:15:27,750 pass because that's what 932 00:15:27,750 --> 00:15:28,117 I buy 933 00:15:28,117 --> 00:15:29,218 and 934 00:15:29,218 --> 00:15:29,985 I'm 935 00:15:29,985 --> 00:15:30,219 talking about 936 00:15:30,219 --> 00:15:31,520 my 937 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:32,121 cost 938 00:15:32,121 --> 00:15:32,488 because that's what 939 00:15:32,488 --> 00:15:32,755 I incur. 940 00:15:32,755 --> 00:15:33,890 I'm 941 00:15:33,890 --> 00:15:34,456 not 942 00:15:34,456 --> 00:15:36,250 separating 943 00:15:36,250 --> 00:15:36,292 out 944 00:15:36,292 --> 00:15:36,659 the 945 00:15:36,659 --> 00:15:37,930 extra 946 00:15:37,930 --> 00:15:38,394 rates 947 00:15:38,394 --> 00:15:38,694 for 948 00:15:38,694 --> 00:15:38,961 future 949 00:15:38,961 --> 00:15:40,463 ferry 950 00:15:40,463 --> 00:15:40,730 , 951 00:15:40,730 --> 00:15:41,397 so 952 00:15:41,397 --> 00:15:41,597 between 24 and 953 00:15:41,597 --> 00:15:43,433 a 954 00:15:43,433 --> 00:15:43,733 projected 955 00:15:43,733 --> 00:15:45,401 27, my 956 00:15:45,401 --> 00:15:45,668 Cost 957 00:15:45,668 --> 00:15:47,336 for a 958 00:15:47,336 --> 00:15:47,498 drive 959 00:15:47,498 --> 00:15:47,870 on 960 00:15:47,870 --> 00:15:49,672 senior pass 961 00:15:49,672 --> 00:15:50,390 . And 962 00:15:50,390 --> 00:15:50,340 I'm retired 963 00:15:50,340 --> 00:15:50,573 and 964 00:15:50,573 --> 00:15:52,750 I'm 965 00:15:52,750 --> 00:15:52,641 widowed 966 00:15:52,641 --> 00:15:54,110 . My rates are 967 00:15:54,110 --> 00:15:56,110 going 968 00:15:56,646 --> 00:15:58,646 up 2020% 969 00:15:58,948 --> 00:16:00,850 . For non-peak 970 00:16:00,850 --> 00:16:01,651 . 971 00:16:01,651 --> 00:16:03,820 For peak season they're going 972 00:16:03,820 --> 00:16:05,820 up 297% 973 00:16:06,155 --> 00:16:06,523 . And 974 00:16:06,523 --> 00:16:07,991 that's 975 00:16:07,991 --> 00:16:08,391 directly 976 00:16:08,391 --> 00:16:10,391 related to 977 00:16:10,794 --> 00:16:12,262 The fact 978 00:16:12,262 --> 00:16:12,829 that you've 979 00:16:12,829 --> 00:16:13,196 gotten rid of 980 00:16:13,196 --> 00:16:14,631 discounts 981 00:16:14,631 --> 00:16:15,310 . 982 00:16:15,310 --> 00:16:17,310 There's the 983 00:16:17,330 --> 00:16:17,467 ferroasticity that 984 00:16:17,467 --> 00:16:19,169 takes place 985 00:16:19,169 --> 00:16:19,402 because of 986 00:16:19,402 --> 00:16:19,903 the 987 00:16:19,903 --> 00:16:21,770 expirations on 988 00:16:21,770 --> 00:16:22,720 DECEMBER 31st, 989 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,720 and 990 00:16:24,140 --> 00:16:24,740 as a result 991 00:16:24,740 --> 00:16:25,541 , My 992 00:16:25,541 --> 00:16:25,942 riding 993 00:16:25,942 --> 00:16:26,842 habits have 994 00:16:26,842 --> 00:16:28,678 changed drastically 995 00:16:28,678 --> 00:16:28,911 In 2024, I 996 00:16:28,911 --> 00:16:30,514 was 997 00:16:30,514 --> 00:16:31,810 driving across 998 00:16:31,810 --> 00:16:32,582 an average of 3 to 4 999 00:16:32,582 --> 00:16:33,316 times a 1000 00:16:33,316 --> 00:16:34,684 week. I would buy a 1001 00:16:34,684 --> 00:16:34,985 multi-use 1002 00:16:34,985 --> 00:16:36,985 pass 1003 00:16:37,187 --> 00:16:37,954 . In 2026 1004 00:16:37,954 --> 00:16:39,156 , currently, if 1005 00:16:39,156 --> 00:16:39,990 I 1006 00:16:39,990 --> 00:16:41,558 drive across, it's once 1007 00:16:41,558 --> 00:16:42,192 a week 1008 00:16:42,192 --> 00:16:43,927 max to go 1009 00:16:43,927 --> 00:16:44,661 grocery shopping, 1010 00:16:44,661 --> 00:16:44,995 which adds to my grocery bill, 1011 00:16:44,995 --> 00:16:46,960 which 1012 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,960 is already high 1013 00:16:48,599 --> 00:16:48,762 . If 1014 00:16:48,762 --> 00:16:49,990 you 1015 00:16:49,990 --> 00:16:50,433 were to 1016 00:16:50,433 --> 00:16:51,568 go back 1017 00:16:51,568 --> 00:16:53,237 And actually 1018 00:16:53,237 --> 00:16:53,604 , 1019 00:16:53,604 --> 00:16:55,604 Look at 1020 00:16:55,906 --> 00:16:57,307 What needs 1021 00:16:57,307 --> 00:16:59,307 to happen 1022 00:16:59,643 --> 00:17:00,477 . 1023 00:17:00,477 --> 00:17:01,478 For the county is that you 1024 00:17:01,478 --> 00:17:02,120 need 1025 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,914 to increase revenue 1026 00:17:03,914 --> 00:17:04,248 . If 1027 00:17:04,248 --> 00:17:04,515 you 1028 00:17:04,515 --> 00:17:05,382 go 1029 00:17:05,382 --> 00:17:06,249 on consistently 1030 00:17:06,249 --> 00:17:06,650 as it 1031 00:17:06,650 --> 00:17:06,917 is 1032 00:17:06,917 --> 00:17:07,251 now, 1033 00:17:07,251 --> 00:17:09,251 you're 1034 00:17:09,353 --> 00:17:11,155 going to realize from my 1035 00:17:11,155 --> 00:17:13,424 one trip a week 1036 00:17:13,424 --> 00:17:14,240 . A revenue of 1037 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:15,893 about 1038 00:17:15,893 --> 00:17:17,628 $138. Thank you, Jody 1039 00:17:17,628 --> 00:17:18,462 . 1040 00:17:18,462 --> 00:17:20,196 Thank you. 3 minutes are up 1041 00:17:20,196 --> 00:17:20,731 . 1042 00:17:20,731 --> 00:17:21,899 Thank you. All 1043 00:17:21,899 --> 00:17:22,533 right, 1044 00:17:22,533 --> 00:17:22,867 Glennville and then Steve 1045 00:17:22,867 --> 00:17:24,867 Orsini 1046 00:17:33,577 --> 00:17:33,844 . Glenville 4453 Edens 1047 00:17:33,844 --> 00:17:35,546 Road 1048 00:17:35,546 --> 00:17:35,913 , Guaymas Island 1049 00:17:35,913 --> 00:17:36,380 , and uh 1050 00:17:36,380 --> 00:17:38,820 I'd 1051 00:17:38,820 --> 00:17:38,815 like to reiterate what 1052 00:17:38,815 --> 00:17:40,160 Michael 1053 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:40,551 Brown 1054 00:17:40,551 --> 00:17:40,851 said about just 1055 00:17:40,851 --> 00:17:42,586 being 1056 00:17:42,586 --> 00:17:42,887 here and and uh 1057 00:17:42,887 --> 00:17:43,187 Why 1058 00:17:43,187 --> 00:17:44,689 we're 1059 00:17:44,689 --> 00:17:45,890 in this 1060 00:17:45,890 --> 00:17:45,455 situation because for 1061 00:17:45,455 --> 00:17:47,580 me it's 1062 00:17:47,580 --> 00:17:47,792 particularly disturbing 1063 00:17:47,792 --> 00:17:49,460 having served on the ferry 1064 00:17:49,460 --> 00:17:50,228 Committee for 1065 00:17:50,228 --> 00:17:51,395 Over 1066 00:17:51,395 --> 00:17:51,963 30 1067 00:17:51,963 --> 00:17:52,125 years 1068 00:17:52,125 --> 00:17:52,430 and 1069 00:17:52,430 --> 00:17:53,698 always 1070 00:17:53,698 --> 00:17:53,965 had a seat at 1071 00:17:53,965 --> 00:17:54,198 the table. 1072 00:17:54,198 --> 00:17:56,198 We 1073 00:17:56,367 --> 00:17:56,801 could always discuss 1074 00:17:56,801 --> 00:17:58,269 whatever was 1075 00:17:58,269 --> 00:17:59,700 going on, come up 1076 00:17:59,700 --> 00:18:00,937 with a mutually agreed 1077 00:18:00,937 --> 00:18:01,338 a 1078 00:18:01,338 --> 00:18:02,773 decision 1079 00:18:02,773 --> 00:18:04,676 based on 1080 00:18:04,676 --> 00:18:05,243 factual 1081 00:18:05,243 --> 00:18:05,843 and 1082 00:18:05,843 --> 00:18:07,843 verifiable information 1083 00:18:09,130 --> 00:18:09,781 . And 1084 00:18:09,781 --> 00:18:10,114 instead of that now we have to 1085 00:18:10,114 --> 00:18:12,160 have a 1086 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:12,550 seat in court. It just 1087 00:18:12,550 --> 00:18:13,785 doesn't seem right 1088 00:18:13,785 --> 00:18:14,510 to 1089 00:18:14,510 --> 00:18:14,352 me 1090 00:18:14,352 --> 00:18:14,853 , and I 1091 00:18:14,853 --> 00:18:16,387 know that we 1092 00:18:16,387 --> 00:18:16,955 have had a lot 1093 00:18:16,955 --> 00:18:18,655 of 1094 00:18:18,655 --> 00:18:19,357 success through the years with 1095 00:18:19,357 --> 00:18:20,325 the Ferry Committee, which 1096 00:18:20,325 --> 00:18:20,892 was 1097 00:18:20,892 --> 00:18:21,559 over 40 years old 1098 00:18:21,559 --> 00:18:22,727 , I think 1099 00:18:22,727 --> 00:18:23,328 . I 1100 00:18:23,328 --> 00:18:23,661 was on it over 1101 00:18:23,661 --> 00:18:25,430 30 years 1102 00:18:25,430 --> 00:18:25,830 , and so 1103 00:18:25,830 --> 00:18:27,565 it is 1104 00:18:27,565 --> 00:18:28,366 disappointing to see that 1105 00:18:28,366 --> 00:18:30,268 it's taken this kind of a turn 1106 00:18:30,268 --> 00:18:30,935 , 1107 00:18:30,935 --> 00:18:32,300 so that's what I'd like 1108 00:18:32,300 --> 00:18:32,303 to 1109 00:18:32,303 --> 00:18:32,904 say 1110 00:18:32,904 --> 00:18:34,238 about that, but the 1111 00:18:34,238 --> 00:18:35,207 other thing 1112 00:18:35,207 --> 00:18:36,408 is about what's going 1113 00:18:36,408 --> 00:18:36,974 on now is 1114 00:18:36,974 --> 00:18:38,776 having some effect 1115 00:18:38,776 --> 00:18:39,477 . That's, 1116 00:18:39,477 --> 00:18:40,879 it's more than just 1117 00:18:40,879 --> 00:18:41,546 like what 1118 00:18:41,546 --> 00:18:43,281 Jody was talking about and 1119 00:18:43,281 --> 00:18:43,682 everyone else too 1120 00:18:43,682 --> 00:18:45,682 . Uh 1121 00:18:45,984 --> 00:18:46,351 , The 1122 00:18:46,351 --> 00:18:47,853 county 1123 00:18:47,853 --> 00:18:48,153 is actually not 1124 00:18:48,153 --> 00:18:48,754 getting 1125 00:18:48,754 --> 00:18:49,921 revenue 1126 00:18:49,921 --> 00:18:50,422 from 1127 00:18:50,422 --> 00:18:50,622 the taxing 1128 00:18:50,622 --> 00:18:50,889 sources 1129 00:18:50,889 --> 00:18:52,591 on 1130 00:18:52,591 --> 00:18:53,258 Guaymas Island and the way 1131 00:18:53,258 --> 00:18:54,292 that it used to, and I 1132 00:18:54,292 --> 00:18:54,859 , I will 1133 00:18:54,859 --> 00:18:55,293 leave this behind 1134 00:18:55,293 --> 00:18:56,528 . But 1135 00:18:56,528 --> 00:18:57,129 , uh 1136 00:18:57,129 --> 00:18:57,662 , 1137 00:18:57,662 --> 00:18:59,662 Just, for example 1138 00:18:59,731 --> 00:19:01,333 , I have these 1139 00:19:01,333 --> 00:19:01,833 rates here that 1140 00:19:01,833 --> 00:19:02,401 show that the 1141 00:19:02,401 --> 00:19:03,569 taxable value 1142 00:19:03,569 --> 00:19:05,569 in Guamass is 1143 00:19:06,271 --> 00:19:07,940 From 2023 slid 1144 00:19:07,940 --> 00:19:08,407 from 1145 00:19:08,407 --> 00:19:08,773 671 1146 00:19:08,773 --> 00:19:10,242 million 1147 00:19:10,242 --> 00:19:10,709 to 1148 00:19:10,709 --> 00:19:12,511 $594 1149 00:19:12,511 --> 00:19:12,845 million in 2025 1150 00:19:12,845 --> 00:19:13,112 . And 1151 00:19:13,112 --> 00:19:14,680 the 1152 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:15,114 county roads have 1153 00:19:15,114 --> 00:19:15,581 taken in 1154 00:19:15,581 --> 00:19:17,816 it was a high 1155 00:19:17,816 --> 00:19:19,384 of 872,000 1156 00:19:19,384 --> 00:19:19,718 in 1157 00:19:19,718 --> 00:19:21,619 2023 1158 00:19:21,619 --> 00:19:21,987 and 729,000 1159 00:19:21,987 --> 00:19:23,488 in 2025 1160 00:19:23,488 --> 00:19:23,989 . But 1161 00:19:23,989 --> 00:19:24,490 the total 1162 00:19:24,490 --> 00:19:25,857 taxes from 1163 00:19:25,857 --> 00:19:26,125 Guaymas 1164 00:19:26,125 --> 00:19:28,125 are 1165 00:19:30,229 --> 00:19:30,462 52023 1166 00:19:30,462 --> 00:19:31,960 , 4 1167 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:32,831 million plus 1168 00:19:32,831 --> 00:19:33,265 in 1169 00:19:33,265 --> 00:19:35,265 2024 and 1170 00:19:35,301 --> 00:19:37,200 4 million plus 1171 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,300 in 2025 1172 00:19:38,300 --> 00:19:39,137 So it just goes to show 1173 00:19:39,137 --> 00:19:39,738 you 1174 00:19:39,738 --> 00:19:39,972 there's having some 1175 00:19:39,972 --> 00:19:40,539 other 1176 00:19:40,539 --> 00:19:41,807 repercussions with 1177 00:19:41,807 --> 00:19:42,475 these 1178 00:19:42,475 --> 00:19:44,376 unaffordable ferry fares 1179 00:19:44,376 --> 00:19:44,844 . So 1180 00:19:44,844 --> 00:19:46,278 that's the one 1181 00:19:46,278 --> 00:19:46,912 thing that the 1182 00:19:46,912 --> 00:19:48,581 other thing is I'd 1183 00:19:48,581 --> 00:19:49,248 like to 1184 00:19:49,248 --> 00:19:51,183 suggest that the county 1185 00:19:51,183 --> 00:19:51,617 commissioners take a hard look 1186 00:19:51,617 --> 00:19:53,617 at the 1187 00:19:53,719 --> 00:19:55,187 ferry 1188 00:19:55,187 --> 00:19:55,721 district providing 1189 00:19:55,721 --> 00:19:56,122 I found out 1190 00:19:56,122 --> 00:19:57,356 that with 1191 00:19:57,356 --> 00:19:58,457 the 1192 00:19:58,457 --> 00:19:59,992 taxable base and just going to 1193 00:19:59,992 --> 00:20:00,326 the maximum 1194 00:20:00,326 --> 00:20:02,326 of 10% 1195 00:20:02,461 --> 00:20:02,928 . Per 1000 1196 00:20:02,928 --> 00:20:04,463 you can raise 1197 00:20:04,463 --> 00:20:06,199 $3.5 million 1198 00:20:06,199 --> 00:20:06,666 . And 1199 00:20:06,666 --> 00:20:07,232 I think that 1200 00:20:07,232 --> 00:20:09,268 the road that the 1201 00:20:09,268 --> 00:20:09,425 ferry belongs in the road fund 1202 00:20:09,425 --> 00:20:09,669 . 1203 00:20:09,669 --> 00:20:10,936 You 1204 00:20:10,936 --> 00:20:11,170 find 1205 00:20:11,170 --> 00:20:11,670 it 1206 00:20:11,670 --> 00:20:13,573 , you don't have a 1207 00:20:13,573 --> 00:20:13,734 separate budget for the ferry 1208 00:20:13,734 --> 00:20:14,307 . 1209 00:20:14,307 --> 00:20:15,374 You find it in the 1210 00:20:15,374 --> 00:20:15,808 road fund. I 1211 00:20:15,808 --> 00:20:16,542 looked at the 1212 00:20:16,542 --> 00:20:18,177 entire budget and 1213 00:20:18,177 --> 00:20:18,444 the budget in the road fund is 1214 00:20:18,444 --> 00:20:20,313 over 1215 00:20:20,313 --> 00:20:21,140 $50 million 1216 00:20:21,140 --> 00:20:22,214 . Now 1217 00:20:22,214 --> 00:20:22,782 I don't 1218 00:20:22,782 --> 00:20:23,149 know exactly what part of 1219 00:20:23,149 --> 00:20:24,484 Assafari 1220 00:20:24,484 --> 00:20:25,118 , but the fact that it 1221 00:20:25,118 --> 00:20:25,417 is in with the roads, and 1222 00:20:25,417 --> 00:20:26,886 that's 1223 00:20:26,886 --> 00:20:27,187 the way they do it 1224 00:20:27,187 --> 00:20:27,619 up in 1225 00:20:27,619 --> 00:20:29,489 up in 1226 00:20:29,489 --> 00:20:29,789 uh Wadcombe County too 1227 00:20:29,789 --> 00:20:31,591 . I 1228 00:20:31,591 --> 00:20:31,752 would like to suggest that 1229 00:20:31,752 --> 00:20:31,991 we 1230 00:20:31,991 --> 00:20:33,526 form 1231 00:20:33,526 --> 00:20:34,327 a ferry district 1232 00:20:34,327 --> 00:20:36,129 . And, and 1233 00:20:36,129 --> 00:20:36,496 uh, and 1234 00:20:36,496 --> 00:20:37,964 enter 1235 00:20:37,964 --> 00:20:38,331 into a 1236 00:20:38,331 --> 00:20:38,631 new 1237 00:20:38,631 --> 00:20:38,932 where 1238 00:20:38,932 --> 00:20:40,699 the 1239 00:20:40,699 --> 00:20:41,167 ferry is part of the road 1240 00:20:41,167 --> 00:20:42,334 system and 1241 00:20:42,334 --> 00:20:42,735 not a 1242 00:20:42,735 --> 00:20:43,503 separate 1243 00:20:43,503 --> 00:20:44,304 division. Thank you. Thank you 1244 00:20:44,304 --> 00:20:44,604 , 1245 00:20:44,604 --> 00:20:45,605 Glenn 1246 00:20:45,605 --> 00:20:46,840 . Steve Orsini and 1247 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:47,240 then 1248 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,240 Jeff Burdock 1249 00:20:58,452 --> 00:20:58,852 . Uh 1250 00:20:58,852 --> 00:20:59,850 , good morning. 1251 00:20:59,850 --> 00:21:00,219 My 1252 00:21:00,219 --> 00:21:00,453 name 1253 00:21:00,453 --> 00:21:00,921 is 1254 00:21:00,921 --> 00:21:01,220 Steve Orsini. I 1255 00:21:01,220 --> 00:21:03,220 live 1256 00:21:03,456 --> 00:21:04,991 at 4971 Guaymas Island Road 1257 00:21:04,991 --> 00:21:05,759 on 1258 00:21:05,759 --> 00:21:06,260 Guamass. Thank you for 1259 00:21:06,260 --> 00:21:07,895 the 1260 00:21:07,895 --> 00:21:09,129 opportunity to be here today 1261 00:21:09,129 --> 00:21:09,529 . 1262 00:21:09,529 --> 00:21:09,830 Um, I 1263 00:21:09,830 --> 00:21:11,665 have 1264 00:21:11,665 --> 00:21:12,990 to 1265 00:21:12,990 --> 00:21:14,990 forego my 1266 00:21:14,234 --> 00:21:14,735 prepared statement to 1267 00:21:14,735 --> 00:21:16,135 underscore several 1268 00:21:16,135 --> 00:21:16,570 things. 1269 00:21:16,570 --> 00:21:16,870 First of 1270 00:21:16,870 --> 00:21:18,639 all 1271 00:21:18,639 --> 00:21:19,406 , um, the county 1272 00:21:19,406 --> 00:21:20,908 staff 1273 00:21:20,908 --> 00:21:21,542 has 1274 00:21:21,542 --> 00:21:22,843 supplied us 1275 00:21:22,843 --> 00:21:23,877 with 1276 00:21:23,877 --> 00:21:25,780 an 1277 00:21:25,780 --> 00:21:25,913 a 1278 00:21:25,913 --> 00:21:26,379 promise that we would get a 1279 00:21:26,379 --> 00:21:27,748 full text 1280 00:21:27,748 --> 00:21:29,748 of the new 1281 00:21:30,517 --> 00:21:30,918 proposed 1282 00:21:30,918 --> 00:21:31,919 resolutions 1283 00:21:31,919 --> 00:21:32,286 for 1284 00:21:32,286 --> 00:21:32,720 today's meeting 1285 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,220 We asked for 1286 00:21:34,220 --> 00:21:34,655 those and we 1287 00:21:34,655 --> 00:21:35,122 didn't 1288 00:21:35,122 --> 00:21:36,490 get anything 1289 00:21:36,490 --> 00:21:37,324 . I guess 1290 00:21:37,324 --> 00:21:38,792 you've redone some 1291 00:21:38,792 --> 00:21:39,326 parts of 1292 00:21:39,326 --> 00:21:41,600 both of those 1293 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:41,894 , maybe, but we 1294 00:21:41,894 --> 00:21:43,630 haven't seen anything 1295 00:21:43,630 --> 00:21:43,797 , so 1296 00:21:43,797 --> 00:21:44,265 our 1297 00:21:44,265 --> 00:21:45,532 reason for 1298 00:21:45,532 --> 00:21:46,166 being here 1299 00:21:46,166 --> 00:21:48,166 today is 1300 00:21:48,402 --> 00:21:48,736 very 1301 00:21:48,736 --> 00:21:49,870 confusing 1302 00:21:49,870 --> 00:21:50,136 2 1303 00:21:50,136 --> 00:21:50,572 is 1304 00:21:50,572 --> 00:21:50,733 that uh Mr 1305 00:21:50,733 --> 00:21:51,720 . 1306 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:52,606 Fahlquist 1307 00:21:52,606 --> 00:21:54,606 , your attorney 1308 00:21:54,675 --> 00:21:55,309 , uh, 1309 00:21:55,309 --> 00:21:57,110 just restated the case 1310 00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:57,611 . That 1311 00:21:57,611 --> 00:21:58,913 was brought before 1312 00:21:58,913 --> 00:22:00,913 the judge 1313 00:22:00,915 --> 00:22:01,415 . 1314 00:22:01,415 --> 00:22:01,816 And defended 1315 00:22:01,816 --> 00:22:02,149 it 1316 00:22:02,149 --> 00:22:03,451 again 1317 00:22:03,451 --> 00:22:03,884 in terms 1318 00:22:03,884 --> 00:22:05,720 of the 1319 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:06,530 fair calculation 1320 00:22:06,530 --> 00:22:06,487 , 1321 00:22:06,487 --> 00:22:08,189 particularly 1322 00:22:08,189 --> 00:22:08,422 , and the judge 1323 00:22:08,422 --> 00:22:09,560 has 1324 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:10,791 found against Skadget 1325 00:22:10,791 --> 00:22:11,159 . Each 1326 00:22:11,159 --> 00:22:12,627 time and 1327 00:22:12,627 --> 00:22:12,799 asked you to go 1328 00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:13,160 back 1329 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,862 and make 1330 00:22:14,862 --> 00:22:15,730 a 1331 00:22:15,730 --> 00:22:17,365 meaningful 1332 00:22:17,365 --> 00:22:17,598 recalculation. So what 1333 00:22:17,598 --> 00:22:19,400 was 1334 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:19,767 stated 1335 00:22:19,767 --> 00:22:20,168 today 1336 00:22:20,168 --> 00:22:21,235 was something 1337 00:22:21,235 --> 00:22:21,903 that 1338 00:22:21,903 --> 00:22:22,203 is already settled in 1339 00:22:22,203 --> 00:22:23,538 court 1340 00:22:23,538 --> 00:22:24,171 . We 1341 00:22:24,171 --> 00:22:24,438 thought we were going 1342 00:22:24,438 --> 00:22:24,839 to move 1343 00:22:24,839 --> 00:22:26,240 beyond that 1344 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:26,841 . Uh 1345 00:22:26,841 --> 00:22:28,775 , our 1346 00:22:28,775 --> 00:22:30,578 attorney 1347 00:22:30,578 --> 00:22:31,212 received on 1348 00:22:31,212 --> 00:22:32,513 this morning 1349 00:22:32,513 --> 00:22:33,810 , a 1350 00:22:33,810 --> 00:22:33,615 notification from 1351 00:22:33,615 --> 00:22:35,490 the county 1352 00:22:35,490 --> 00:22:35,650 that they 1353 00:22:35,650 --> 00:22:37,285 have 1354 00:22:37,285 --> 00:22:37,919 appealed the 1355 00:22:37,919 --> 00:22:39,919 JULY 31st 1356 00:22:40,455 --> 00:22:41,589 . Remand order 1357 00:22:41,589 --> 00:22:42,123 from 1358 00:22:42,123 --> 00:22:44,250 the judge, which 1359 00:22:44,250 --> 00:22:44,692 caused this 1360 00:22:44,692 --> 00:22:46,260 meeting. Now you 1361 00:22:46,260 --> 00:22:46,660 have appealed 1362 00:22:46,660 --> 00:22:47,162 that to 1363 00:22:47,162 --> 00:22:48,563 appellate court 1364 00:22:48,563 --> 00:22:49,330 . So 1365 00:22:49,330 --> 00:22:50,598 it's obvious that number 1366 00:22:50,598 --> 00:22:50,965 one 1367 00:22:50,965 --> 00:22:51,499 , 1368 00:22:51,499 --> 00:22:53,168 the communication 1369 00:22:53,168 --> 00:22:53,535 is 1370 00:22:53,535 --> 00:22:53,802 terrible 1371 00:22:53,802 --> 00:22:54,350 . 1372 00:22:54,350 --> 00:22:55,837 2 1373 00:22:55,837 --> 00:22:57,572 is that you, you're not 1374 00:22:57,572 --> 00:22:58,273 . 1375 00:22:58,273 --> 00:22:59,541 Following the judge's 1376 00:22:59,541 --> 00:23:00,208 original 1377 00:23:00,208 --> 00:23:00,575 order, and I guess we have to 1378 00:23:00,575 --> 00:23:02,110 go to 1379 00:23:02,110 --> 00:23:02,410 appellate court 1380 00:23:02,410 --> 00:23:02,877 now to 1381 00:23:02,877 --> 00:23:04,877 prove that 1382 00:23:06,281 --> 00:23:06,715 . My 1383 00:23:06,715 --> 00:23:07,482 comments were 1384 00:23:07,482 --> 00:23:08,683 About 1385 00:23:08,683 --> 00:23:10,683 how to fix 1386 00:23:11,253 --> 00:23:12,530 The system for 1387 00:23:12,530 --> 00:23:13,155 the long run so that we 1388 00:23:13,155 --> 00:23:13,655 can, we 1389 00:23:13,655 --> 00:23:13,956 can both 1390 00:23:13,956 --> 00:23:15,891 survive 1391 00:23:15,891 --> 00:23:16,391 , but I'll just 1392 00:23:16,391 --> 00:23:17,626 submit those 1393 00:23:17,626 --> 00:23:17,959 as 1394 00:23:17,959 --> 00:23:18,427 written 1395 00:23:18,427 --> 00:23:20,427 comments, and 1396 00:23:22,164 --> 00:23:22,597 I'm more 1397 00:23:22,597 --> 00:23:23,131 than 1398 00:23:23,131 --> 00:23:24,566 frustrated about 1399 00:23:24,566 --> 00:23:24,833 the procedure 1400 00:23:24,833 --> 00:23:25,367 this 1401 00:23:25,367 --> 00:23:26,535 morning and 1402 00:23:26,535 --> 00:23:26,694 what 1403 00:23:26,694 --> 00:23:27,436 has 1404 00:23:27,436 --> 00:23:30,436 happened to us. Thank you 1405 00:23:35,611 --> 00:23:36,145 . Jeff 1406 00:23:36,145 --> 00:23:38,145 Burdock with uh 1407 00:23:38,379 --> 00:23:39,948 Devon Havens 1408 00:23:39,948 --> 00:23:40,315 . 1409 00:23:40,315 --> 00:23:42,315 On deck 1410 00:23:45,521 --> 00:23:47,521 jeopardize 1411 00:23:47,790 --> 00:23:48,958 South 1412 00:23:48,958 --> 00:23:49,257 Shore 1413 00:23:49,257 --> 00:23:51,257 Drive 1414 00:23:52,127 --> 00:23:52,494 . And I'm a 1415 00:23:52,494 --> 00:23:54,263 grateful 1416 00:23:54,263 --> 00:23:54,424 Skagia County Ferry rider 1417 00:23:54,424 --> 00:23:54,662 for 1418 00:23:54,662 --> 00:23:55,931 the 1419 00:23:55,931 --> 00:23:56,432 , the 1420 00:23:56,432 --> 00:23:56,932 last 1421 00:23:56,932 --> 00:23:58,767 34+ years. I'd 1422 00:23:58,767 --> 00:23:59,168 like to talk about public trust 1423 00:23:59,168 --> 00:24:00,669 and input 1424 00:24:00,669 --> 00:24:00,902 . In 1425 00:24:00,902 --> 00:24:01,203 the 1426 00:24:01,203 --> 00:24:01,470 last 8 years, 1427 00:24:01,470 --> 00:24:02,705 a 1428 00:24:02,705 --> 00:24:03,720 lot 1429 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:03,472 has changed 1430 00:24:03,472 --> 00:24:03,706 . We embarked 1431 00:24:03,706 --> 00:24:04,940 on 1432 00:24:04,940 --> 00:24:05,608 an 1433 00:24:05,608 --> 00:24:07,342 all-electric ferry design 1434 00:24:07,342 --> 00:24:07,742 Ending 1435 00:24:07,742 --> 00:24:08,110 in 1436 00:24:08,110 --> 00:24:09,445 2025 with 1437 00:24:09,445 --> 00:24:09,879 just the 1438 00:24:09,879 --> 00:24:11,879 design and 1439 00:24:11,881 --> 00:24:13,782 $1.5 million spent 1440 00:24:13,782 --> 00:24:14,417 . 1441 00:24:14,417 --> 00:24:14,684 2024 kicked in a new 1442 00:24:14,684 --> 00:24:15,500 electronic 1443 00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:16,552 ticketing 1444 00:24:16,552 --> 00:24:16,818 replacing the 1445 00:24:16,818 --> 00:24:17,153 punch 1446 00:24:17,153 --> 00:24:19,121 card 1447 00:24:19,121 --> 00:24:19,522 . This entails also a new 1448 00:24:19,522 --> 00:24:21,900 crew member 1449 00:24:21,900 --> 00:24:21,423 , assistant manager, 1450 00:24:21,423 --> 00:24:21,824 plus a 1451 00:24:21,824 --> 00:24:22,959 yearly cost 1452 00:24:22,959 --> 00:24:23,326 to 1453 00:24:23,326 --> 00:24:24,590 anchor of 1454 00:24:24,590 --> 00:24:26,590 around 1455 00:24:26,395 --> 00:24:27,430 $900,000 90,000 dollars 1456 00:24:27,430 --> 00:24:27,797 , 1457 00:24:27,797 --> 00:24:28,331 excuse me 1458 00:24:28,331 --> 00:24:29,732 , back to the 1459 00:24:29,732 --> 00:24:30,399 island 1460 00:24:30,399 --> 00:24:30,833 after witnessing the Guaymas 1461 00:24:30,833 --> 00:24:32,100 parking lot 1462 00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:32,435 with 1463 00:24:32,435 --> 00:24:32,869 100 cars 1464 00:24:32,869 --> 00:24:34,470 at 1465 00:24:34,470 --> 00:24:35,400 midwinter, at 1466 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:35,271 the invitation of 1467 00:24:35,271 --> 00:24:36,539 gpac 1468 00:24:36,539 --> 00:24:37,600 , you 1469 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:37,273 came up with a 1470 00:24:37,273 --> 00:24:37,540 design 1471 00:24:37,540 --> 00:24:38,875 for 1472 00:24:38,875 --> 00:24:39,342 57 cars 1473 00:24:39,342 --> 00:24:39,575 . You 1474 00:24:39,575 --> 00:24:40,810 are 1475 00:24:40,810 --> 00:24:41,210 sending 1476 00:24:41,210 --> 00:24:41,577 that out to 1477 00:24:41,577 --> 00:24:42,450 a 1478 00:24:42,450 --> 00:24:43,646 consultant we're 1479 00:24:43,646 --> 00:24:43,813 going to have limited 1480 00:24:43,813 --> 00:24:44,246 direct 1481 00:24:44,246 --> 00:24:46,246 public input 1482 00:24:46,282 --> 00:24:46,482 . A couple of 1483 00:24:46,482 --> 00:24:46,749 years 1484 00:24:46,749 --> 00:24:47,850 back 1485 00:24:47,850 --> 00:24:48,585 , we 1486 00:24:48,585 --> 00:24:50,420 learned from the 1487 00:24:50,420 --> 00:24:50,820 Seattle Times that the county 1488 00:24:50,820 --> 00:24:52,622 missed out 1489 00:24:52,622 --> 00:24:53,256 on 1.2 million of 1490 00:24:53,256 --> 00:24:55,225 federal ferry boat funds 1491 00:24:55,225 --> 00:24:55,725 . The 1492 00:24:55,725 --> 00:24:56,960 newsletters that 1493 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:57,527 you send out 1494 00:24:57,527 --> 00:24:59,129 are great, but it's 1495 00:24:59,129 --> 00:24:59,562 a one-way 1496 00:24:59,562 --> 00:24:59,897 conversation 1497 00:24:59,897 --> 00:25:01,264 . At our 1498 00:25:01,264 --> 00:25:01,897 actual 1499 00:25:01,897 --> 00:25:03,566 public meeting, you pay 1500 00:25:03,566 --> 00:25:04,434 to 1501 00:25:04,434 --> 00:25:06,102 facilitator almost 1502 00:25:06,102 --> 00:25:06,469 $8000. Both 1503 00:25:06,469 --> 00:25:06,736 of these 1504 00:25:06,736 --> 00:25:08,104 were 1505 00:25:08,104 --> 00:25:08,267 on costs to 1506 00:25:08,267 --> 00:25:08,605 the 1507 00:25:08,605 --> 00:25:10,605 islanders 1508 00:25:10,740 --> 00:25:11,107 . The majority of us 1509 00:25:11,107 --> 00:25:12,409 did not 1510 00:25:12,409 --> 00:25:12,642 want 1511 00:25:12,642 --> 00:25:13,242 an 1512 00:25:13,242 --> 00:25:13,610 all-electric 1513 00:25:13,610 --> 00:25:14,811 ferry and 1514 00:25:14,811 --> 00:25:15,211 questioned 1515 00:25:15,211 --> 00:25:15,845 its 1516 00:25:15,845 --> 00:25:17,247 reliability and cost 1517 00:25:17,247 --> 00:25:17,420 . We 1518 00:25:17,420 --> 00:25:18,810 also 1519 00:25:18,810 --> 00:25:19,215 saw no advantage with 1520 00:25:19,215 --> 00:25:20,250 the 1521 00:25:20,250 --> 00:25:21,284 ticketing system we shook 1522 00:25:21,284 --> 00:25:21,751 our 1523 00:25:21,751 --> 00:25:22,352 heads when we 1524 00:25:22,352 --> 00:25:23,687 were told we 1525 00:25:23,687 --> 00:25:24,354 were 1526 00:25:24,354 --> 00:25:24,654 reducing our parking lot 1527 00:25:24,654 --> 00:25:25,822 to 1528 00:25:25,822 --> 00:25:26,123 57 1529 00:25:26,123 --> 00:25:26,757 cars 1530 00:25:26,757 --> 00:25:26,990 . Then 1531 00:25:26,990 --> 00:25:28,491 the 1532 00:25:28,491 --> 00:25:29,258 annual price 1533 00:25:29,258 --> 00:25:31,658 increases of tickets starting 1534 00:25:31,828 --> 00:25:33,630 in 2023-2014 1535 00:25:33,630 --> 00:25:35,265 , 1430, 30, and 1536 00:25:35,265 --> 00:25:35,565 in 1537 00:25:35,565 --> 00:25:36,366 2027 1538 00:25:36,366 --> 00:25:37,868 , another 14% 1539 00:25:37,868 --> 00:25:38,101 . When 1540 00:25:38,101 --> 00:25:40,101 we 1541 00:25:40,170 --> 00:25:40,771 questioned it, you tell us that 1542 00:25:40,771 --> 00:25:42,606 we're complaining 1543 00:25:42,606 --> 00:25:44,508 . And 1544 00:25:44,508 --> 00:25:44,975 sometimes ungrateful the 1545 00:25:44,975 --> 00:25:46,577 service that 1546 00:25:46,577 --> 00:25:46,977 we're getting. We 1547 00:25:46,977 --> 00:25:47,544 keep 1548 00:25:47,544 --> 00:25:48,712 asking for a 1549 00:25:48,712 --> 00:25:49,413 ferry 1550 00:25:49,413 --> 00:25:49,680 committee back to be involved 1551 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:50,980 to 1552 00:25:50,980 --> 00:25:51,150 make use of our 1553 00:25:51,150 --> 00:25:51,782 free 1554 00:25:51,782 --> 00:25:53,217 knowledge has shown 1555 00:25:53,217 --> 00:25:53,917 when a tag 1556 00:25:53,917 --> 00:25:55,953 committee was formed and 1557 00:25:55,953 --> 00:25:57,321 excellent work they produce 1558 00:25:57,321 --> 00:25:57,588 . 1559 00:25:57,588 --> 00:25:58,188 Then 1560 00:25:58,188 --> 00:25:58,656 in 2023 you 1561 00:25:58,656 --> 00:26:00,424 terminated the 1562 00:26:00,424 --> 00:26:02,659 ferry committee which started 1563 00:26:02,659 --> 00:26:02,960 in 1979. A lot of this could 1564 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,695 have 1565 00:26:04,695 --> 00:26:05,562 been avoided if we were 1566 00:26:05,562 --> 00:26:06,663 communicating openly 1567 00:26:06,663 --> 00:26:07,631 with each 1568 00:26:07,631 --> 00:26:09,366 other. We did not want to go to 1569 00:26:09,366 --> 00:26:10,340 court to appeal your 1570 00:26:10,340 --> 00:26:11,235 referendums, but when 1571 00:26:11,235 --> 00:26:11,602 forced by 1572 00:26:11,602 --> 00:26:12,360 lack of 1573 00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:13,303 communication 1574 00:26:13,303 --> 00:26:14,103 , our 1575 00:26:14,103 --> 00:26:14,438 livelihood being threatened by 1576 00:26:14,438 --> 00:26:16,107 cost 1577 00:26:16,107 --> 00:26:16,407 increases, we felt we had 1578 00:26:16,407 --> 00:26:16,974 to 1579 00:26:16,974 --> 00:26:17,975 do 1580 00:26:17,975 --> 00:26:18,408 something 1581 00:26:18,408 --> 00:26:18,709 . This 1582 00:26:18,709 --> 00:26:20,311 last 5 1583 00:26:20,311 --> 00:26:20,644 years has 1584 00:26:20,644 --> 00:26:21,110 been 1585 00:26:21,110 --> 00:26:21,379 exhausting. I'm 1586 00:26:21,379 --> 00:26:22,413 sure for 1587 00:26:22,413 --> 00:26:22,979 all of us 1588 00:26:22,979 --> 00:26:23,347 . I reminisce 1589 00:26:23,347 --> 00:26:25,149 about the 1590 00:26:25,149 --> 00:26:25,883 old days when all we 1591 00:26:25,883 --> 00:26:26,617 talked about was local gossip 1592 00:26:26,617 --> 00:26:26,884 . 1593 00:26:26,884 --> 00:26:27,451 Up 1594 00:26:27,451 --> 00:26:27,852 . So 1595 00:26:27,852 --> 00:26:29,530 I'm asking 1596 00:26:29,530 --> 00:26:29,320 for 3 1597 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:29,587 things. 1598 00:26:29,587 --> 00:26:30,154 One 1599 00:26:30,154 --> 00:26:31,455 , please reinstate 1600 00:26:31,455 --> 00:26:32,560 the ferry 1601 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:33,391 Committee, all other 1602 00:26:33,391 --> 00:26:34,224 ferry 1603 00:26:34,224 --> 00:26:34,592 operations in the state have 1604 00:26:34,592 --> 00:26:35,960 ferry 1605 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:36,360 committees 1606 00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:36,527 to 1607 00:26:36,527 --> 00:26:36,961 please 1608 00:26:36,961 --> 00:26:38,950 truly abide 1609 00:26:38,950 --> 00:26:38,596 by 1610 00:26:38,596 --> 00:26:40,596 Judge Von's 1611 00:26:40,731 --> 00:26:41,632 decision, and 3, let's have 1612 00:26:41,632 --> 00:26:42,533 open communication so we 1613 00:26:42,533 --> 00:26:43,300 can 1614 00:26:43,300 --> 00:26:43,601 all feel that we are 1615 00:26:43,601 --> 00:26:45,300 making 1616 00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:45,703 the 1617 00:26:45,703 --> 00:26:46,971 right decision, and 1618 00:26:46,971 --> 00:26:47,304 4 1619 00:26:47,304 --> 00:26:47,472 , it's 1620 00:26:47,472 --> 00:26:48,720 my 1621 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:49,307 birthday and I'm 1622 00:26:49,307 --> 00:26:49,741 78 1623 00:26:49,741 --> 00:26:49,974 tomorrow 1624 00:26:49,974 --> 00:26:50,375 . 1625 00:26:50,375 --> 00:26:52,309 Please put 1626 00:26:52,309 --> 00:26:52,810 the 1627 00:26:52,810 --> 00:26:53,411 ferry back for 1628 00:26:53,411 --> 00:26:55,411 my birthday 1629 00:26:56,481 --> 00:26:58,481 . Thank you 1630 00:26:58,716 --> 00:26:59,450 . Thank 1631 00:26:59,450 --> 00:27:00,985 you, Jeff, and happy 1632 00:27:00,985 --> 00:27:01,719 birthday 1633 00:27:01,719 --> 00:27:02,954 tomorrow 1634 00:27:02,954 --> 00:27:03,554 . Ms 1635 00:27:03,554 --> 00:27:05,190 . Havens and then 1636 00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:05,622 Cindy Camp 1637 00:27:05,622 --> 00:27:07,622 . Hm 1638 00:27:08,225 --> 00:27:09,728 Devon 1639 00:27:09,728 --> 00:27:10,362 Havens 1640 00:27:10,362 --> 00:27:11,796 4709 South Shore Drive 1641 00:27:11,796 --> 00:27:12,263 , 1642 00:27:12,263 --> 00:27:14,263 Anacortes. Ok 1643 00:27:14,665 --> 00:27:16,400 . Good morning 1644 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:16,868 . Um 1645 00:27:16,868 --> 00:27:17,402 I'd like 1646 00:27:17,402 --> 00:27:18,737 to speak 1647 00:27:18,737 --> 00:27:19,400 , in kind 1648 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:19,871 of 1649 00:27:19,871 --> 00:27:21,720 generality about 1650 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:21,506 the main 1651 00:27:21,506 --> 00:27:23,506 topic 1652 00:27:23,575 --> 00:27:25,575 being money. Um 1653 00:27:30,582 --> 00:27:32,183 . You 1654 00:27:32,183 --> 00:27:32,340 know, we 1655 00:27:32,340 --> 00:27:32,617 , 1656 00:27:32,617 --> 00:27:33,151 there's 1657 00:27:33,151 --> 00:27:34,419 been thousands 1658 00:27:34,419 --> 00:27:34,820 and 1659 00:27:34,820 --> 00:27:35,287 thousands 1660 00:27:35,287 --> 00:27:37,287 and 3,000s 1661 00:27:37,456 --> 00:27:38,560 and 1662 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,191 thousands of dollars 1663 00:27:39,191 --> 00:27:39,524 . That 1664 00:27:39,524 --> 00:27:39,891 should 1665 00:27:39,891 --> 00:27:41,250 have gone 1666 00:27:41,250 --> 00:27:41,259 to 1667 00:27:41,259 --> 00:27:41,794 Skagit 1668 00:27:41,794 --> 00:27:43,495 County government 1669 00:27:43,495 --> 00:27:43,729 . That 1670 00:27:43,729 --> 00:27:43,962 did 1671 00:27:43,962 --> 00:27:44,329 not 1672 00:27:44,329 --> 00:27:45,831 get 1673 00:27:45,831 --> 00:27:46,131 there 1674 00:27:46,131 --> 00:27:46,365 because 1675 00:27:46,365 --> 00:27:47,733 of 1676 00:27:47,733 --> 00:27:48,133 staff 1677 00:27:48,133 --> 00:27:50,133 negligence 1678 00:27:50,302 --> 00:27:50,568 . There have 1679 00:27:50,568 --> 00:27:51,170 been 1680 00:27:51,170 --> 00:27:52,170 thousands and thousands 1681 00:27:52,170 --> 00:27:52,504 and 1682 00:27:52,504 --> 00:27:53,138 30,000 1683 00:27:53,138 --> 00:27:53,839 and 1684 00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:55,400 3,000s of dollars 1685 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:55,541 . 1686 00:27:55,541 --> 00:27:56,808 That has been 1687 00:27:56,808 --> 00:27:56,968 spent on 1688 00:27:56,968 --> 00:27:57,442 the 1689 00:27:57,442 --> 00:27:59,442 ferry and in 1690 00:27:59,845 --> 00:28:00,144 my opinion 1691 00:28:00,144 --> 00:28:00,446 , in a 1692 00:28:00,446 --> 00:28:00,713 way 1693 00:28:00,713 --> 00:28:01,446 that 1694 00:28:01,446 --> 00:28:01,880 is 1695 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,880 ill advised 1696 00:28:04,650 --> 00:28:06,185 . So I 1697 00:28:06,185 --> 00:28:06,418 would like 1698 00:28:06,418 --> 00:28:06,752 to 1699 00:28:06,752 --> 00:28:08,530 request 1700 00:28:08,530 --> 00:28:08,214 a you 1701 00:28:08,214 --> 00:28:08,520 a 1702 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:08,953 couple 1703 00:28:08,953 --> 00:28:10,789 of things 1704 00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:11,230 . One 1705 00:28:11,230 --> 00:28:11,390 is 1706 00:28:11,390 --> 00:28:12,791 that 1707 00:28:12,791 --> 00:28:13,625 each one 1708 00:28:13,625 --> 00:28:14,927 of you take 1709 00:28:14,927 --> 00:28:15,227 a 1710 00:28:15,227 --> 00:28:15,794 good 1711 00:28:15,794 --> 00:28:17,663 close hard look 1712 00:28:17,663 --> 00:28:19,130 . At the books 1713 00:28:19,130 --> 00:28:19,398 . 1714 00:28:19,398 --> 00:28:19,632 At 1715 00:28:19,632 --> 00:28:20,990 the 1716 00:28:20,990 --> 00:28:20,499 county 1717 00:28:20,499 --> 00:28:21,534 books related 1718 00:28:21,534 --> 00:28:21,934 to 1719 00:28:21,934 --> 00:28:23,934 the ferry 1720 00:28:24,337 --> 00:28:24,570 . Something's 1721 00:28:24,570 --> 00:28:24,903 wrong 1722 00:28:24,903 --> 00:28:26,505 there 1723 00:28:26,505 --> 00:28:26,739 . I really believe it 1724 00:28:26,739 --> 00:28:27,173 . And 1725 00:28:27,173 --> 00:28:28,474 I, yeah, I 1726 00:28:28,474 --> 00:28:29,800 , I 1727 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:29,408 know that you 1728 00:28:29,408 --> 00:28:31,310 guys have 1729 00:28:31,310 --> 00:28:31,644 a really hard 1730 00:28:31,644 --> 00:28:31,944 job, 1731 00:28:31,944 --> 00:28:33,779 and 1732 00:28:33,779 --> 00:28:34,880 I think that you 1733 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,314 really 1734 00:28:35,314 --> 00:28:35,681 think that 1735 00:28:35,681 --> 00:28:36,181 you're doing your 1736 00:28:36,181 --> 00:28:37,617 best, and I, I 1737 00:28:37,617 --> 00:28:38,183 think that you 1738 00:28:38,183 --> 00:28:40,119 are too, but 1739 00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:40,486 This 1740 00:28:40,486 --> 00:28:40,786 is something 1741 00:28:40,786 --> 00:28:41,954 that 1742 00:28:41,954 --> 00:28:42,388 is 1743 00:28:42,388 --> 00:28:43,550 really important that 1744 00:28:43,550 --> 00:28:46,550 you look at those books 1745 00:28:46,192 --> 00:28:46,792 . The 1746 00:28:46,792 --> 00:28:46,958 only other thing that 1747 00:28:46,958 --> 00:28:47,393 I'm 1748 00:28:47,393 --> 00:28:49,328 requesting is 1749 00:28:49,328 --> 00:28:49,695 Give us back our 1750 00:28:49,695 --> 00:28:51,397 dang 1751 00:28:51,397 --> 00:28:51,898 fairy committee, you know, 1752 00:28:51,898 --> 00:28:53,232 you guys are 1753 00:28:53,232 --> 00:28:53,566 missing out on 1754 00:28:53,566 --> 00:28:54,330 an 1755 00:28:54,330 --> 00:28:55,401 opportunity to 1756 00:28:55,401 --> 00:28:55,935 engage 1757 00:28:55,935 --> 00:28:56,169 with 1758 00:28:56,169 --> 00:28:56,469 us 1759 00:28:56,469 --> 00:28:57,870 in 1760 00:28:57,870 --> 00:28:58,538 a, you know 1761 00:28:58,538 --> 00:29:00,173 , personal 1762 00:29:00,173 --> 00:29:00,473 close 1763 00:29:00,473 --> 00:29:01,700 way 1764 00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:02,175 , um, with people 1765 00:29:02,175 --> 00:29:02,509 who 1766 00:29:02,509 --> 00:29:02,942 are 1767 00:29:02,942 --> 00:29:03,275 intelligent 1768 00:29:03,275 --> 00:29:04,943 , skilled 1769 00:29:04,943 --> 00:29:05,512 , 1770 00:29:05,512 --> 00:29:07,213 knowledgeable, and 1771 00:29:07,213 --> 00:29:07,680 Have 1772 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,382 good 1773 00:29:09,382 --> 00:29:09,682 hearts and want to do a good 1774 00:29:09,682 --> 00:29:11,682 job 1775 00:29:12,185 --> 00:29:13,453 . Thank 1776 00:29:13,453 --> 00:29:14,487 you 1777 00:29:14,487 --> 00:29:16,222 . Thank you 1778 00:29:16,222 --> 00:29:16,656 . City 1779 00:29:16,656 --> 00:29:18,910 camp and then 1780 00:29:18,910 --> 00:29:20,910 Bogosian 1781 00:29:20,126 --> 00:29:20,827 . Good 1782 00:29:20,827 --> 00:29:21,261 morning, commissioners. Uh, 1783 00:29:21,261 --> 00:29:22,762 Cindy Camp 1784 00:29:22,762 --> 00:29:23,290 , 6729 1785 00:29:23,290 --> 00:29:24,497 West 1786 00:29:24,497 --> 00:29:25,165 Shore 1787 00:29:25,165 --> 00:29:25,330 Drive. Um, Joe Burns 1788 00:29:25,330 --> 00:29:25,965 , 1789 00:29:25,965 --> 00:29:26,766 Commissioner Burns, I believe 1790 00:29:26,766 --> 00:29:27,534 I 1791 00:29:27,534 --> 00:29:28,168 can answer your question for 1792 00:29:28,168 --> 00:29:29,436 you that you asked Mr 1793 00:29:29,436 --> 00:29:30,236 . 1794 00:29:30,236 --> 00:29:31,171 Fahlquist that he was unable 1795 00:29:31,171 --> 00:29:32,500 to 1796 00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:32,238 answer, and the answer is 1797 00:29:32,238 --> 00:29:33,807 yes 1798 00:29:33,807 --> 00:29:34,641 . 1799 00:29:34,641 --> 00:29:36,643 Those numbers were before you 1800 00:29:36,643 --> 00:29:37,210 in 2024 when they made the 1801 00:29:37,210 --> 00:29:38,745 decision, and that 1802 00:29:38,745 --> 00:29:39,179 is exactly 1803 00:29:39,179 --> 00:29:40,380 why 1804 00:29:40,380 --> 00:29:40,981 Judge 1805 00:29:40,981 --> 00:29:41,414 Judge Loring ruled as 1806 00:29:41,414 --> 00:29:43,383 she 1807 00:29:43,383 --> 00:29:44,840 did 1808 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:44,484 . Those numbers were 1809 00:29:44,484 --> 00:29:45,819 included 1810 00:29:45,819 --> 00:29:46,319 and 1811 00:29:46,319 --> 00:29:46,480 known prior to 1812 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:46,920 the 1813 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:47,187 decisions made 1814 00:29:47,187 --> 00:29:47,854 on 1815 00:29:47,854 --> 00:29:48,288 the 2025 1816 00:29:48,288 --> 00:29:49,923 fare 1817 00:29:49,923 --> 00:29:50,523 increase. That is why we're 1818 00:29:50,523 --> 00:29:51,591 here and that is why 1819 00:29:51,591 --> 00:29:51,858 she ruled 1820 00:29:51,858 --> 00:29:52,225 in 1821 00:29:52,225 --> 00:29:52,693 our favor 1822 00:29:52,693 --> 00:29:54,260 . Over 1823 00:29:54,260 --> 00:29:54,261 and 1824 00:29:54,261 --> 00:29:54,728 over and 1825 00:29:54,728 --> 00:29:56,330 over again 1826 00:29:56,330 --> 00:29:57,197 , 3 times 1827 00:29:57,197 --> 00:29:58,165 . She also 1828 00:29:58,165 --> 00:29:58,931 , 1829 00:29:58,931 --> 00:29:59,232 Judge Loring also has told you 1830 00:29:59,232 --> 00:30:00,867 what 1831 00:30:00,867 --> 00:30:01,568 self-serving language 1832 00:30:01,568 --> 00:30:01,836 looks like in a resolution, and 1833 00:30:01,836 --> 00:30:03,403 it 1834 00:30:03,403 --> 00:30:04,137 sounds like you're about to 1835 00:30:04,137 --> 00:30:06,390 do the exact same thing today 1836 00:30:06,390 --> 00:30:06,807 . 1837 00:30:06,807 --> 00:30:07,507 But if you did what the 1838 00:30:07,507 --> 00:30:08,242 judge 1839 00:30:08,242 --> 00:30:08,775 also ordered, you would go back 1840 00:30:08,775 --> 00:30:10,775 and redo the 2024 1841 00:30:11,345 --> 00:30:11,645 . Target 1842 00:30:11,645 --> 00:30:12,146 report 1843 00:30:12,146 --> 00:30:12,413 . And if you 1844 00:30:12,413 --> 00:30:13,180 started that 1845 00:30:13,180 --> 00:30:14,748 exercise, you'd go through it 1846 00:30:14,748 --> 00:30:15,480 and you'd see that there's much 1847 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,480 more 1848 00:30:17,251 --> 00:30:18,786 . Beyond just even 1849 00:30:18,786 --> 00:30:19,585 the 1850 00:30:19,585 --> 00:30:21,522 budgeted numbers of a projected 1851 00:30:21,522 --> 00:30:21,685 budget numbers that include 1852 00:30:21,685 --> 00:30:22,256 the 1853 00:30:22,256 --> 00:30:23,490 capital that need to 1854 00:30:23,490 --> 00:30:24,358 be 1855 00:30:24,358 --> 00:30:26,930 investigated further. You will 1856 00:30:26,930 --> 00:30:26,293 clearly see that the 1857 00:30:26,293 --> 00:30:26,593 cpi index 1858 00:30:26,593 --> 00:30:27,661 was 1859 00:30:27,661 --> 00:30:28,195 not 1860 00:30:28,195 --> 00:30:28,762 properly used on 1861 00:30:28,762 --> 00:30:30,531 the 1862 00:30:30,531 --> 00:30:32,199 2024 target report, it 1863 00:30:32,199 --> 00:30:32,733 says 1864 00:30:32,733 --> 00:30:33,100 2.64%, it comes out 1865 00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:34,868 at 16% 1866 00:30:34,868 --> 00:30:35,369 . You 1867 00:30:35,369 --> 00:30:36,870 also have to 1868 00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:37,471 ask yourself, how 1869 00:30:37,471 --> 00:30:37,838 exactly was it that you 1870 00:30:37,838 --> 00:30:39,273 budgeted 1871 00:30:39,273 --> 00:30:41,273 only 1872 00:30:41,742 --> 00:30:42,376 $200,000 for 2025 1873 00:30:42,376 --> 00:30:43,310 a year that you knew 1874 00:30:43,310 --> 00:30:44,110 that you 1875 00:30:44,110 --> 00:30:44,378 had a haul out, that you knew 1876 00:30:44,378 --> 00:30:45,813 that you 1877 00:30:45,813 --> 00:30:46,280 were 1878 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:46,914 purchasing 1879 00:30:46,914 --> 00:30:48,149 engines, all of that 1880 00:30:48,149 --> 00:30:48,683 , and then 1881 00:30:48,683 --> 00:30:49,830 I'm not saying that the 1882 00:30:49,830 --> 00:30:50,384 projected 1883 00:30:50,384 --> 00:30:50,685 budget or 1884 00:30:50,685 --> 00:30:51,118 the o&m, 1885 00:30:51,118 --> 00:30:52,553 the Capitol 1886 00:30:52,553 --> 00:30:52,711 was clearly 1887 00:30:52,711 --> 00:30:53,287 put 1888 00:30:53,287 --> 00:30:53,754 aside for the engines. I'm 1889 00:30:53,754 --> 00:30:54,922 talking about 1890 00:30:54,922 --> 00:30:55,222 the 1891 00:30:55,222 --> 00:30:55,957 engine 1892 00:30:55,957 --> 00:30:56,357 installation. You knew all that 1893 00:30:56,357 --> 00:30:57,325 was going 1894 00:30:57,325 --> 00:30:57,625 to happen, but you 1895 00:30:57,625 --> 00:30:59,260 only 1896 00:30:59,260 --> 00:30:59,927 put 1897 00:30:59,927 --> 00:31:00,328 $200,000 but what did 1898 00:31:00,328 --> 00:31:01,896 you end up 1899 00:31:01,896 --> 00:31:03,798 spending? Over 1900 00:31:03,798 --> 00:31:04,132 $1.3 1901 00:31:04,132 --> 00:31:04,932 million 1902 00:31:04,932 --> 00:31:06,660 . Where, where 1903 00:31:06,660 --> 00:31:06,334 was 1904 00:31:06,334 --> 00:31:06,868 that 1905 00:31:06,868 --> 00:31:08,169 money? So when 1906 00:31:08,169 --> 00:31:08,903 , when you come 1907 00:31:08,903 --> 00:31:09,203 up with this Christmas miracle 1908 00:31:09,203 --> 00:31:11,203 of a 1909 00:31:11,605 --> 00:31:12,840 4.69 looky looky here 1910 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:13,374 . 1911 00:31:13,374 --> 00:31:13,875 It's exactly the same, so 1912 00:31:13,875 --> 00:31:15,543 there's nothing 1913 00:31:15,543 --> 00:31:16,100 to recalculate. 1914 00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:18,100 That is the 1915 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,181 biggest load of 1916 00:31:20,181 --> 00:31:20,682 garbage I had ever heard. Then 1917 00:31:20,682 --> 00:31:20,982 what are just 1918 00:31:20,982 --> 00:31:21,548 think in your 1919 00:31:21,548 --> 00:31:21,982 head for one second 1920 00:31:21,982 --> 00:31:22,216 what 1921 00:31:22,216 --> 00:31:22,750 the 1922 00:31:22,750 --> 00:31:24,840 statistical odds 1923 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:24,285 are of 1924 00:31:24,285 --> 00:31:24,652 a 1925 00:31:24,652 --> 00:31:25,253 number 1926 00:31:25,253 --> 00:31:27,121 being projected 1927 00:31:27,121 --> 00:31:27,488 in 2024 1928 00:31:27,488 --> 00:31:28,890 and you 1929 00:31:28,890 --> 00:31:29,900 have all the 1930 00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:29,423 staffing 1931 00:31:29,423 --> 00:31:30,959 costs 1932 00:31:30,959 --> 00:31:31,626 , the fuel 1933 00:31:31,626 --> 00:31:32,894 , the hull out 1934 00:31:32,894 --> 00:31:33,628 , 1935 00:31:33,628 --> 00:31:34,270 the two, the propeller fell off 1936 00:31:34,270 --> 00:31:35,764 The second 1937 00:31:35,764 --> 00:31:35,964 . Haul out 1938 00:31:35,964 --> 00:31:36,431 at 10 1939 00:31:36,431 --> 00:31:37,932 weeks turned 1940 00:31:37,932 --> 00:31:38,199 into 11 weeks. All 1941 00:31:38,199 --> 00:31:38,766 the 1942 00:31:38,766 --> 00:31:40,402 different things 1943 00:31:40,402 --> 00:31:40,769 that 1944 00:31:40,769 --> 00:31:41,268 happened 1945 00:31:41,268 --> 00:31:41,970 in 2025 1946 00:31:41,970 --> 00:31:42,604 and we're 1947 00:31:42,604 --> 00:31:43,137 expected to believe that the 1948 00:31:43,137 --> 00:31:44,372 number turned out 1949 00:31:44,372 --> 00:31:44,541 exactly 1950 00:31:44,541 --> 00:31:44,772 the 1951 00:31:44,772 --> 00:31:45,273 same 1952 00:31:45,273 --> 00:31:46,841 , and even if 1953 00:31:46,841 --> 00:31:47,576 it does turn 1954 00:31:47,576 --> 00:31:48,809 out to be exactly the same 1955 00:31:48,809 --> 00:31:49,377 , 1956 00:31:49,377 --> 00:31:49,878 it's still irrelevant. You 1957 00:31:49,878 --> 00:31:51,145 still have to 1958 00:31:51,145 --> 00:31:51,546 go back and look 1959 00:31:51,546 --> 00:31:51,947 at all of 1960 00:31:51,947 --> 00:31:53,715 the 1961 00:31:53,715 --> 00:31:54,483 entire 2024 1962 00:31:54,483 --> 00:31:56,218 target report and look at all 1963 00:31:56,218 --> 00:31:56,685 the decisions that were made, 1964 00:31:56,685 --> 00:31:57,953 and I'd also 1965 00:31:57,953 --> 00:31:58,253 like you to 1966 00:31:58,253 --> 00:31:58,753 think 1967 00:31:58,753 --> 00:32:00,154 back to 1968 00:32:00,154 --> 00:32:00,822 OCTOBER 1969 00:32:00,822 --> 00:32:01,890 of 1970 00:32:01,890 --> 00:32:02,457 2024 1971 00:32:02,457 --> 00:32:03,124 when 1972 00:32:03,124 --> 00:32:03,492 your staff found out that they 1973 00:32:03,492 --> 00:32:05,393 lost 1.3 1974 00:32:05,393 --> 00:32:07,129 . Million dollars in 1975 00:32:07,129 --> 00:32:07,629 federal ferry boat program 1976 00:32:07,629 --> 00:32:09,364 funds and then 2 1977 00:32:09,364 --> 00:32:09,698 weeks later 1978 00:32:09,698 --> 00:32:10,132 stood 1979 00:32:10,132 --> 00:32:11,500 before you in 1980 00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:12,200 a, in a 1981 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,467 work session that none of 1982 00:32:13,467 --> 00:32:14,268 us 1983 00:32:14,268 --> 00:32:14,426 knew about, and they called 1984 00:32:14,426 --> 00:32:14,636 us 1985 00:32:14,636 --> 00:32:15,837 an 1986 00:32:15,837 --> 00:32:16,471 angry mob 1987 00:32:16,471 --> 00:32:16,634 . They told us 1988 00:32:16,634 --> 00:32:16,939 that 1989 00:32:16,939 --> 00:32:18,400 we put 1990 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:18,340 our 1991 00:32:18,340 --> 00:32:18,606 thumbs 1992 00:32:18,606 --> 00:32:18,874 over 1993 00:32:18,874 --> 00:32:19,141 the the 1994 00:32:19,141 --> 00:32:20,976 no 1995 00:32:20,976 --> 00:32:22,311 expiry cards or the 1996 00:32:22,311 --> 00:32:22,978 , the 1997 00:32:22,978 --> 00:32:23,612 tickets, all the things that 1998 00:32:23,612 --> 00:32:24,713 they said to us while 1999 00:32:24,713 --> 00:32:25,380 you're 2000 00:32:25,380 --> 00:32:26,480 making a decision and what did 2001 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,480 you turn around and do 2002 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:27,449 ? You 2003 00:32:27,449 --> 00:32:27,716 raised our 2004 00:32:27,716 --> 00:32:27,983 fares 2005 00:32:27,983 --> 00:32:29,284 more 2006 00:32:29,284 --> 00:32:29,618 . You went 2007 00:32:29,618 --> 00:32:29,851 beyond 2008 00:32:29,851 --> 00:32:30,285 the 2009 00:32:30,285 --> 00:32:30,585 30% and you took 2010 00:32:30,585 --> 00:32:31,520 away 2011 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:32,154 our 2012 00:32:32,154 --> 00:32:32,488 most coveted discount 2013 00:32:32,488 --> 00:32:34,188 of all 2014 00:32:34,188 --> 00:32:34,556 , our 2015 00:32:34,556 --> 00:32:35,570 multi-ride fair. 2016 00:32:35,570 --> 00:32:36,258 Good, thank you 2017 00:32:36,258 --> 00:32:36,559 , Cindy. Thank 2018 00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:38,559 you 2019 00:32:45,468 --> 00:32:46,100 . Alison 2020 00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:46,535 Bush is next, or 2021 00:32:46,535 --> 00:32:47,369 Allan Bush, I'm 2022 00:32:47,369 --> 00:32:47,669 sorry, Alan 2023 00:32:47,669 --> 00:32:49,638 Bush 2024 00:32:49,638 --> 00:32:49,939 . Yeah 2025 00:32:49,939 --> 00:32:51,939 , sorry 2026 00:32:52,575 --> 00:32:53,800 , Alan 2027 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:54,709 Chipagoshian 2028 00:32:54,709 --> 00:32:56,709 , 50-10 totem trail 2029 00:32:56,846 --> 00:32:57,613 Guaymas Island. I'm gonna take 2030 00:32:57,613 --> 00:32:59,915 a little different tack here 2031 00:32:59,915 --> 00:33:00,316 . 2032 00:33:00,316 --> 00:33:01,500 When when 2033 00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:01,784 we graduated from 2034 00:33:01,784 --> 00:33:03,453 medical school, we take a 2035 00:33:03,453 --> 00:33:03,985 sacred oath called the 2036 00:33:03,985 --> 00:33:05,888 Hippocratic Oath 2037 00:33:05,888 --> 00:33:06,388 . Which dates 2038 00:33:06,388 --> 00:33:07,924 back to several 2039 00:33:07,924 --> 00:33:08,591 100 years 2040 00:33:08,591 --> 00:33:10,560 before Christ 2041 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:11,600 and 2042 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,428 still 2043 00:33:12,428 --> 00:33:13,620 applicable today about taking 2044 00:33:13,620 --> 00:33:14,630 care of patients, not 2045 00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:15,398 poisoning 2046 00:33:15,398 --> 00:33:16,532 them, respecting our teachers 2047 00:33:16,532 --> 00:33:16,933 , 2048 00:33:16,933 --> 00:33:17,700 and not 2049 00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:19,102 sharing their grief 2050 00:33:19,102 --> 00:33:19,802 , 2051 00:33:19,802 --> 00:33:21,690 their disease process with 2052 00:33:21,690 --> 00:33:21,233 a 2053 00:33:21,233 --> 00:33:21,838 , 2054 00:33:21,838 --> 00:33:22,205 with other people. So that was 2055 00:33:22,205 --> 00:33:23,573 several 2056 00:33:23,573 --> 00:33:23,973 100 years 2057 00:33:23,973 --> 00:33:24,240 before 2058 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:24,396 hipaa 2059 00:33:24,396 --> 00:33:24,674 . 2060 00:33:24,674 --> 00:33:26,800 Why am 2061 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:26,209 I saying this 2062 00:33:26,209 --> 00:33:26,676 ? Because 2063 00:33:26,676 --> 00:33:28,578 when you take 2064 00:33:28,578 --> 00:33:28,739 . The oath for 2065 00:33:28,739 --> 00:33:28,978 the 2066 00:33:28,978 --> 00:33:30,146 job 2067 00:33:30,146 --> 00:33:30,713 you 2068 00:33:30,713 --> 00:33:32,248 have sitting up there 2069 00:33:32,248 --> 00:33:33,160 . 2070 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:33,283 You swear, to abide by 2071 00:33:33,283 --> 00:33:33,783 the 2072 00:33:33,783 --> 00:33:34,717 Constitution of 2073 00:33:34,717 --> 00:33:35,510 the United 2074 00:33:35,510 --> 00:33:35,485 States 2075 00:33:35,485 --> 00:33:37,420 . And 2076 00:33:37,420 --> 00:33:37,687 what 2077 00:33:37,687 --> 00:33:37,954 that 2078 00:33:37,954 --> 00:33:38,121 says 2079 00:33:38,121 --> 00:33:38,521 is 2080 00:33:38,521 --> 00:33:39,489 government by 2081 00:33:39,489 --> 00:33:40,189 the people for 2082 00:33:40,189 --> 00:33:41,291 the people 2083 00:33:41,291 --> 00:33:41,790 , and 2084 00:33:41,790 --> 00:33:42,192 we 2085 00:33:42,192 --> 00:33:43,993 listen to 2086 00:33:43,993 --> 00:33:45,962 these people today 2087 00:33:45,962 --> 00:33:46,262 . It 2088 00:33:46,262 --> 00:33:46,896 sounds 2089 00:33:46,896 --> 00:33:48,464 really 2090 00:33:48,464 --> 00:33:48,865 nice that things are not 2091 00:33:48,865 --> 00:33:50,600 being 2092 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,334 followed appropriately. I 2093 00:33:51,334 --> 00:33:52,668 mean, millions of 2094 00:33:52,668 --> 00:33:53,268 dollars 2095 00:33:53,268 --> 00:33:54,738 wasted on a, on 2096 00:33:54,738 --> 00:33:55,438 a 2097 00:33:55,438 --> 00:33:55,805 completely 2098 00:33:55,805 --> 00:33:57,473 idiotic 2099 00:33:57,473 --> 00:33:58,274 electric ferry which if 2100 00:33:58,274 --> 00:33:59,743 you charged it and of course 2101 00:33:59,743 --> 00:34:00,177 would have 2102 00:34:00,177 --> 00:34:00,443 no power if you just 2103 00:34:00,443 --> 00:34:01,912 do 2104 00:34:01,912 --> 00:34:02,378 the 2105 00:34:02,378 --> 00:34:02,679 calculations there and a 2106 00:34:02,679 --> 00:34:04,447 host 2107 00:34:04,447 --> 00:34:04,781 of other things that we 2108 00:34:04,781 --> 00:34:06,516 have 2109 00:34:06,516 --> 00:34:06,683 wasted hundreds 2110 00:34:06,683 --> 00:34:07,284 and 2111 00:34:07,284 --> 00:34:08,585 thousands and perhaps 2112 00:34:08,585 --> 00:34:08,985 millions 2113 00:34:08,985 --> 00:34:09,452 of dollars 2114 00:34:09,452 --> 00:34:10,986 on things 2115 00:34:10,986 --> 00:34:11,421 . And I'm 2116 00:34:11,421 --> 00:34:11,721 just saying 2117 00:34:11,721 --> 00:34:13,290 , please 2118 00:34:13,290 --> 00:34:13,824 , please 2119 00:34:13,824 --> 00:34:15,258 live up to your 2120 00:34:15,258 --> 00:34:15,525 . Sacred oath 2121 00:34:15,525 --> 00:34:15,926 . 2122 00:34:15,926 --> 00:34:17,894 Thank you 2123 00:34:17,894 --> 00:34:19,894 . Thank you, Chip 2124 00:34:21,798 --> 00:34:22,466 . 2125 00:34:22,466 --> 00:34:22,799 Allan Bush and then we'll go 2126 00:34:22,799 --> 00:34:24,799 online 2127 00:34:27,404 --> 00:34:29,720 . Allan Bush 2128 00:34:29,720 --> 00:34:29,506 , 6628 West 2129 00:34:29,506 --> 00:34:31,241 Shore Drive 2130 00:34:31,241 --> 00:34:31,908 . Um 2131 00:34:31,908 --> 00:34:33,210 , I'm 2132 00:34:33,210 --> 00:34:33,477 a 2133 00:34:33,477 --> 00:34:34,100 3rd 2134 00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:35,345 generation Islander 2135 00:34:35,345 --> 00:34:35,879 , 3rd 2136 00:34:35,879 --> 00:34:36,213 generation ferry committee 2137 00:34:36,213 --> 00:34:38,213 member 2138 00:34:39,216 --> 00:34:39,383 . And I'm a 2139 00:34:39,383 --> 00:34:39,749 little 2140 00:34:39,749 --> 00:34:41,749 troubled 2141 00:34:42,252 --> 00:34:42,886 . With how things are 2142 00:34:42,886 --> 00:34:43,119 going, you shouldn't 2143 00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:44,455 be 2144 00:34:44,455 --> 00:34:45,156 in 2145 00:34:45,156 --> 00:34:46,623 court. We should be 2146 00:34:46,623 --> 00:34:47,358 talking 2147 00:34:47,358 --> 00:34:47,517 amongst ourselves, and I 2148 00:34:47,517 --> 00:34:47,891 , I 2149 00:34:47,891 --> 00:34:48,959 believe we 2150 00:34:48,959 --> 00:34:49,259 can 2151 00:34:49,259 --> 00:34:49,727 lead ourselves 2152 00:34:49,727 --> 00:34:49,960 out of this 2153 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,960 . Um 2154 00:34:53,664 --> 00:34:54,331 , If numbers are 2155 00:34:54,331 --> 00:34:56,667 going to be projected 2156 00:34:56,667 --> 00:34:58,667 . And um 2157 00:34:58,903 --> 00:35:00,237 And 2158 00:35:00,237 --> 00:35:00,971 those 2159 00:35:00,971 --> 00:35:02,406 projected numbers 2160 00:35:02,406 --> 00:35:02,840 average 2161 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:03,407 about 2162 00:35:03,407 --> 00:35:04,675 $850,000 a 2163 00:35:04,675 --> 00:35:05,676 year 2164 00:35:05,676 --> 00:35:07,178 off of what actual expenditures 2165 00:35:07,178 --> 00:35:07,812 are, I think 2166 00:35:07,812 --> 00:35:08,212 that's probably 2167 00:35:08,212 --> 00:35:09,180 troubling 2168 00:35:09,180 --> 00:35:11,180 to me 2169 00:35:11,515 --> 00:35:12,383 . And um 2170 00:35:12,383 --> 00:35:13,451 I've 2171 00:35:13,451 --> 00:35:14,318 , 2172 00:35:14,318 --> 00:35:14,852 i've been here before. I've 2173 00:35:14,852 --> 00:35:16,520 asked you 2174 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:16,821 , um, a 2175 00:35:16,821 --> 00:35:18,550 series 2176 00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:19,156 of 2177 00:35:19,156 --> 00:35:21,459 questions and this legal matter 2178 00:35:21,459 --> 00:35:21,759 is getting in the way 2179 00:35:21,759 --> 00:35:21,993 . I 2180 00:35:21,993 --> 00:35:22,993 was 2181 00:35:22,993 --> 00:35:23,327 told that you 2182 00:35:23,327 --> 00:35:23,827 couldn't answer 2183 00:35:23,827 --> 00:35:24,896 them because of 2184 00:35:24,896 --> 00:35:25,229 that legal 2185 00:35:25,229 --> 00:35:25,730 matter 2186 00:35:25,730 --> 00:35:27,730 . And um 2187 00:35:28,132 --> 00:35:29,866 In hindsight 2188 00:35:29,866 --> 00:35:30,535 , I 2189 00:35:30,535 --> 00:35:31,836 guess, um, I, I 2190 00:35:31,836 --> 00:35:32,203 asked one 2191 00:35:32,203 --> 00:35:32,737 question 2192 00:35:32,737 --> 00:35:34,205 . What 2193 00:35:34,205 --> 00:35:35,105 capital 2194 00:35:35,105 --> 00:35:37,410 expenditures were, were 2195 00:35:37,410 --> 00:35:37,842 made 2196 00:35:37,842 --> 00:35:38,843 in 2197 00:35:38,843 --> 00:35:39,209 2024, and the 2198 00:35:39,209 --> 00:35:40,711 answer was 2199 00:35:40,711 --> 00:35:41,179 , uh, 2200 00:35:41,179 --> 00:35:41,612 we can or you 2201 00:35:41,612 --> 00:35:43,140 , the 2202 00:35:43,140 --> 00:35:43,681 county 2203 00:35:43,681 --> 00:35:45,517 calculated them properly 2204 00:35:45,517 --> 00:35:46,217 . 2205 00:35:46,217 --> 00:35:47,385 Considering the, the rule 2206 00:35:47,385 --> 00:35:47,986 , the 2207 00:35:47,986 --> 00:35:49,986 accounting rules 2208 00:35:49,987 --> 00:35:50,587 . And um 2209 00:35:50,587 --> 00:35:52,156 , Come 2210 00:35:52,156 --> 00:35:53,240 to find out 2211 00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:54,792 . A year later 2212 00:35:54,792 --> 00:35:55,159 , Um, 2213 00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:56,528 there's 2214 00:35:56,528 --> 00:35:56,827 been 2215 00:35:56,827 --> 00:35:57,495 some 2216 00:35:57,495 --> 00:35:58,563 findings 2217 00:35:58,563 --> 00:35:59,130 that 2218 00:35:59,130 --> 00:35:59,664 there's been some 2219 00:35:59,664 --> 00:36:01,432 engineering 2220 00:36:01,432 --> 00:36:01,666 questions of whether or 2221 00:36:01,666 --> 00:36:02,330 not 2222 00:36:02,330 --> 00:36:03,701 that 2223 00:36:03,701 --> 00:36:04,201 engine replacement and the 2224 00:36:04,201 --> 00:36:05,703 engineering 2225 00:36:05,703 --> 00:36:06,370 surrounding it was 2226 00:36:06,370 --> 00:36:08,370 a 2227 00:36:08,373 --> 00:36:10,410 capital expense, and it was 2228 00:36:10,410 --> 00:36:10,375 . 2229 00:36:10,375 --> 00:36:12,375 And um 2230 00:36:12,410 --> 00:36:12,677 I 2231 00:36:12,677 --> 00:36:12,978 just 2232 00:36:12,978 --> 00:36:13,245 isolate 2233 00:36:13,245 --> 00:36:14,479 that 2234 00:36:14,479 --> 00:36:15,413 one 2235 00:36:15,413 --> 00:36:17,115 crucible engineering in 2236 00:36:17,115 --> 00:36:17,548 JULY 2237 00:36:17,548 --> 00:36:19,451 of 2238 00:36:19,451 --> 00:36:19,918 2024 was 2239 00:36:19,918 --> 00:36:21,253 assigned or 2240 00:36:21,253 --> 00:36:21,486 given 2241 00:36:21,486 --> 00:36:22,454 the 2242 00:36:22,454 --> 00:36:23,655 opportunity 2243 00:36:23,655 --> 00:36:24,189 to engineer an 2244 00:36:24,189 --> 00:36:26,189 engine replacement 2245 00:36:26,258 --> 00:36:28,258 . And um 2246 00:36:30,695 --> 00:36:31,263 That 2247 00:36:31,263 --> 00:36:32,631 contract 2248 00:36:32,631 --> 00:36:32,898 totaled in 2249 00:36:32,898 --> 00:36:33,230 2024 2250 00:36:33,230 --> 00:36:33,565 , 2251 00:36:33,565 --> 00:36:35,565 around 2252 00:36:35,801 --> 00:36:37,102 $79,000 and 2253 00:36:37,102 --> 00:36:37,502 yet we 2254 00:36:37,502 --> 00:36:38,103 were 2255 00:36:38,103 --> 00:36:39,171 invoiced on our side 2256 00:36:39,171 --> 00:36:39,771 of the 2257 00:36:39,771 --> 00:36:41,906 ledger, you know and 2258 00:36:41,906 --> 00:36:42,274 . That 2259 00:36:42,274 --> 00:36:44,420 expense 2260 00:36:44,420 --> 00:36:44,909 . And so 2261 00:36:44,909 --> 00:36:46,645 , uh, when asked 2262 00:36:46,645 --> 00:36:48,347 to recalculate 2263 00:36:48,347 --> 00:36:48,647 . I would hope 2264 00:36:48,647 --> 00:36:48,981 that 2265 00:36:48,981 --> 00:36:49,314 you 2266 00:36:49,314 --> 00:36:50,649 would 2267 00:36:50,649 --> 00:36:50,817 look at 2268 00:36:50,817 --> 00:36:51,450 the 2269 00:36:51,450 --> 00:36:53,450 whole picture, not 2270 00:36:53,452 --> 00:36:53,952 just 2025 or 2271 00:36:53,952 --> 00:36:55,870 what you thought 2272 00:36:55,870 --> 00:36:55,721 you were going 2273 00:36:55,721 --> 00:36:57,188 to spend in that year 2274 00:36:57,188 --> 00:36:58,357 . But 2275 00:36:58,357 --> 00:37:00,292 Based on your formula 2276 00:37:00,292 --> 00:37:00,559 . You are 2277 00:37:00,559 --> 00:37:02,559 um 2278 00:37:02,761 --> 00:37:03,963 . Looking at 2279 00:37:03,963 --> 00:37:04,563 5 years, so 2280 00:37:04,563 --> 00:37:04,764 you're looking at the 2281 00:37:04,764 --> 00:37:06,365 2 2282 00:37:06,365 --> 00:37:06,732 years 2283 00:37:06,732 --> 00:37:07,366 before 2284 00:37:07,366 --> 00:37:08,834 actual 2285 00:37:08,834 --> 00:37:09,501 expenses, and 2286 00:37:09,501 --> 00:37:10,736 then projections, and 2287 00:37:10,736 --> 00:37:11,670 I think 2288 00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:13,205 that's where I guess the 2289 00:37:13,205 --> 00:37:13,772 arbitrary 2290 00:37:13,772 --> 00:37:15,574 and 2291 00:37:15,574 --> 00:37:16,175 capriciousness 2292 00:37:16,175 --> 00:37:17,810 starts entering into 2293 00:37:17,810 --> 00:37:18,377 the 2294 00:37:18,377 --> 00:37:18,677 equation and 2295 00:37:18,677 --> 00:37:19,911 um to 2296 00:37:19,911 --> 00:37:20,446 be 2297 00:37:20,446 --> 00:37:20,746 $850,000 2298 00:37:20,746 --> 00:37:22,381 off 2299 00:37:22,381 --> 00:37:22,581 . On 2300 00:37:22,581 --> 00:37:23,490 a 2301 00:37:23,490 --> 00:37:24,500 projection and 2302 00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:24,817 then 2303 00:37:24,817 --> 00:37:25,217 not be able to account for it 2304 00:37:25,217 --> 00:37:26,886 later on 2305 00:37:26,886 --> 00:37:28,788 . Um 2306 00:37:28,788 --> 00:37:29,655 , There's lots of 2307 00:37:29,655 --> 00:37:30,856 labor, lots of time spent 2308 00:37:30,856 --> 00:37:31,190 on 2309 00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:31,456 county 2310 00:37:31,456 --> 00:37:31,790 on 2311 00:37:31,790 --> 00:37:33,492 county 2312 00:37:33,492 --> 00:37:34,260 staff's time 2313 00:37:34,260 --> 00:37:34,360 that, uh, probably 2314 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:35,494 should 2315 00:37:35,494 --> 00:37:35,928 be 2316 00:37:35,928 --> 00:37:37,928 capitalized 2317 00:37:38,731 --> 00:37:39,231 . We've spent 10 2318 00:37:39,231 --> 00:37:40,633 years on a 2319 00:37:40,633 --> 00:37:41,100 capital project a 2320 00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:42,635 ferry 2321 00:37:42,635 --> 00:37:42,935 replacement project, and 2322 00:37:42,935 --> 00:37:43,269 none 2323 00:37:43,269 --> 00:37:44,770 of that 2324 00:37:44,770 --> 00:37:45,638 staff time has 2325 00:37:45,638 --> 00:37:46,705 been capitalized, or at 2326 00:37:46,705 --> 00:37:47,306 least 2327 00:37:47,306 --> 00:37:48,975 we have not seen it 2328 00:37:48,975 --> 00:37:49,542 . Um 2329 00:37:49,542 --> 00:37:49,776 , labor 2330 00:37:49,776 --> 00:37:50,176 , 2331 00:37:50,176 --> 00:37:51,244 uh, during 2332 00:37:51,244 --> 00:37:51,510 the 2333 00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:51,744 haul 2334 00:37:51,744 --> 00:37:52,245 out 2335 00:37:52,245 --> 00:37:53,646 out 2336 00:37:53,646 --> 00:37:54,113 out 2337 00:37:54,113 --> 00:37:54,681 out out 2338 00:37:54,681 --> 00:37:55,915 out $218,000 none of 2339 00:37:55,915 --> 00:37:56,315 that was 2340 00:37:56,315 --> 00:37:58,170 capitalized 2341 00:37:58,170 --> 00:37:58,351 , even 2342 00:37:58,351 --> 00:37:58,918 though 2343 00:37:58,918 --> 00:38:00,386 um Nichols Brothers 2344 00:38:00,386 --> 00:38:02,386 . Um 2345 00:38:03,523 --> 00:38:04,691 Invoices called for 2346 00:38:04,691 --> 00:38:05,391 staff time 2347 00:38:05,391 --> 00:38:05,658 to be contributed to 2348 00:38:05,658 --> 00:38:07,627 that 2349 00:38:07,627 --> 00:38:07,793 expense, so thank you 2350 00:38:07,793 --> 00:38:08,127 , Alan. 2351 00:38:08,127 --> 00:38:10,127 Thanks 2352 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:14,334 . We're ready to go 2353 00:38:14,334 --> 00:38:16,334 online 2354 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:20,807 . You 2355 00:38:20,807 --> 00:38:21,174 are online 2356 00:38:21,174 --> 00:38:21,641 , you 2357 00:38:21,641 --> 00:38:22,908 please raise 2358 00:38:22,908 --> 00:38:23,343 your hand, and 2359 00:38:23,343 --> 00:38:25,343 we'll call 2360 00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:32,886 . Like 2361 00:38:32,886 --> 00:38:33,854 sanding. Oh 2362 00:38:33,854 --> 00:38:34,488 , 2363 00:38:34,488 --> 00:38:36,888 Sandy, go ahead, please 2364 00:38:43,829 --> 00:38:44,660 . Sandy 2365 00:38:44,660 --> 00:38:44,297 , 2366 00:38:44,297 --> 00:38:45,499 you need 2367 00:38:45,499 --> 00:38:47,499 to unmute 2368 00:38:56,944 --> 00:38:57,310 . Well 2369 00:38:57,310 --> 00:38:57,845 , Sandy 2370 00:38:57,845 --> 00:38:58,912 figures that out 2371 00:38:58,912 --> 00:38:59,213 , is anybody 2372 00:38:59,213 --> 00:38:59,713 else 2373 00:38:59,713 --> 00:39:01,713 ? Online 2374 00:39:08,188 --> 00:39:08,422 . Sandy 2375 00:39:08,422 --> 00:39:08,856 , you want 2376 00:39:08,856 --> 00:39:10,856 to try again 2377 00:39:15,462 --> 00:39:15,828 ? That's not 2378 00:39:15,828 --> 00:39:17,828 working 2379 00:39:19,233 --> 00:39:19,700 . So 2380 00:39:19,700 --> 00:39:20,401 there's nobody 2381 00:39:20,401 --> 00:39:23,401 online to comment at all 2382 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:24,471 ? 2383 00:39:24,471 --> 00:39:26,471 Nobody online 2384 00:39:28,308 --> 00:39:28,642 . Ok 2385 00:39:28,642 --> 00:39:29,376 . Anybody else 2386 00:39:29,376 --> 00:39:31,450 in the room like to comment 2387 00:39:31,450 --> 00:39:31,378 ? Go 2388 00:39:31,378 --> 00:39:32,680 ahead 2389 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:33,314 . Um 2390 00:39:33,314 --> 00:39:33,814 , You 2391 00:39:33,814 --> 00:39:35,820 have to come up 2392 00:39:35,820 --> 00:39:35,348 to the mic 2393 00:39:35,348 --> 00:39:35,583 . In 2394 00:39:35,583 --> 00:39:36,830 a 2395 00:39:36,830 --> 00:39:37,351 wheelchair. Oh 2396 00:39:37,351 --> 00:39:38,185 I'm sorry 2397 00:39:38,185 --> 00:39:39,553 , but I know 2398 00:39:39,553 --> 00:39:40,120 it's hard 2399 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:40,553 We bring 2400 00:39:40,553 --> 00:39:41,622 the microphone 2401 00:39:41,622 --> 00:39:41,855 to her 2402 00:39:41,855 --> 00:39:42,123 . 2403 00:39:42,123 --> 00:39:44,123 No 2404 00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:53,935 . Quarters here 2405 00:39:53,935 --> 00:39:55,103 . Thanks 2406 00:39:55,103 --> 00:39:55,436 , 2407 00:39:55,436 --> 00:39:57,436 honey 2408 00:39:58,272 --> 00:39:58,506 . Um 2409 00:39:58,506 --> 00:39:59,941 , 4 2410 00:39:59,941 --> 00:40:00,308 years ago, oh 2411 00:40:00,308 --> 00:40:00,674 , Pat 2412 00:40:00,674 --> 00:40:01,843 Ridgeley 2413 00:40:01,843 --> 00:40:03,843 , Erickson 2414 00:40:04,278 --> 00:40:04,512 . 5458 2415 00:40:04,512 --> 00:40:04,946 West 2416 00:40:04,946 --> 00:40:06,781 Shore Road 2417 00:40:06,781 --> 00:40:07,148 . We 2418 00:40:07,148 --> 00:40:07,482 moved here a 2419 00:40:07,482 --> 00:40:08,616 little 2420 00:40:08,616 --> 00:40:09,170 over 2421 00:40:09,170 --> 00:40:11,170 4 years ago 2422 00:40:11,552 --> 00:40:13,454 . Um 2423 00:40:13,454 --> 00:40:14,289 , 2424 00:40:14,289 --> 00:40:17,289 Because it's a beautiful county 2425 00:40:18,293 --> 00:40:18,526 And because the ferry 2426 00:40:18,526 --> 00:40:20,261 ran 2427 00:40:20,261 --> 00:40:20,728 pretty darn regularly 2428 00:40:20,728 --> 00:40:22,300 . And 2429 00:40:22,300 --> 00:40:22,797 we 2430 00:40:22,797 --> 00:40:23,165 were counting on that kind of 2431 00:40:23,165 --> 00:40:25,330 service 2432 00:40:25,330 --> 00:40:25,433 . It's 2433 00:40:25,433 --> 00:40:27,168 a short ride 2434 00:40:27,168 --> 00:40:27,835 . 2435 00:40:27,835 --> 00:40:28,937 Could have bodied orcas 2436 00:40:28,937 --> 00:40:29,404 , but 2437 00:40:29,404 --> 00:40:29,838 then we'd be 2438 00:40:29,838 --> 00:40:31,106 sitting forever 2439 00:40:31,106 --> 00:40:31,806 in 2440 00:40:31,806 --> 00:40:32,107 fairy lines, you know what I 2441 00:40:32,107 --> 00:40:34,107 mean 2442 00:40:34,175 --> 00:40:34,509 . I know 2443 00:40:34,509 --> 00:40:36,110 your job 2444 00:40:36,110 --> 00:40:36,544 is not 2445 00:40:36,544 --> 00:40:38,146 easy to do 2446 00:40:38,146 --> 00:40:38,413 . And that 2447 00:40:38,413 --> 00:40:39,470 you have 2448 00:40:39,470 --> 00:40:41,150 to rely on your staff 2449 00:40:41,150 --> 00:40:42,984 . To 2450 00:40:42,984 --> 00:40:44,886 provide you information 2451 00:40:44,886 --> 00:40:45,860 . But 2452 00:40:45,860 --> 00:40:45,587 I 2453 00:40:45,587 --> 00:40:47,289 have sat and 2454 00:40:47,289 --> 00:40:48,230 watched these 2455 00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:49,825 people that have been here 2456 00:40:49,825 --> 00:40:51,793 longer than we have 2457 00:40:51,793 --> 00:40:52,494 . They have 2458 00:40:52,494 --> 00:40:54,296 good hearts 2459 00:40:54,296 --> 00:40:54,466 as well and 2460 00:40:54,466 --> 00:40:54,963 are 2461 00:40:54,963 --> 00:40:56,631 willing to help 2462 00:40:56,631 --> 00:40:56,932 . One thing I 2463 00:40:56,932 --> 00:40:58,200 have 2464 00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:58,967 to 2465 00:40:58,967 --> 00:41:00,435 tell you, would have 2466 00:41:00,435 --> 00:41:00,969 been 2467 00:41:00,969 --> 00:41:03,106 easy to figure out 2468 00:41:03,106 --> 00:41:03,639 . And 2469 00:41:03,639 --> 00:41:05,374 restore some 2470 00:41:05,374 --> 00:41:05,841 trust between 2471 00:41:05,841 --> 00:41:07,576 public works 2472 00:41:07,576 --> 00:41:08,677 ferry department 2473 00:41:08,677 --> 00:41:09,578 and commissioners 2474 00:41:09,578 --> 00:41:09,911 and 2475 00:41:09,911 --> 00:41:10,312 the 2476 00:41:10,312 --> 00:41:12,312 islanders 2477 00:41:12,314 --> 00:41:12,478 . Take care of 2478 00:41:12,478 --> 00:41:12,748 the 2479 00:41:12,748 --> 00:41:13,915 problem 2480 00:41:13,915 --> 00:41:14,115 that 2481 00:41:14,115 --> 00:41:14,650 the 2482 00:41:14,650 --> 00:41:16,318 judge 2483 00:41:16,318 --> 00:41:16,718 said 2484 00:41:16,718 --> 00:41:18,553 concerning 2485 00:41:18,553 --> 00:41:18,854 the 2486 00:41:18,854 --> 00:41:19,354 non-expiration 2487 00:41:19,354 --> 00:41:21,560 very punch cards 2488 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:21,290 . Does 2489 00:41:21,290 --> 00:41:21,724 it 2490 00:41:21,724 --> 00:41:23,724 make 2491 00:41:24,260 --> 00:41:24,493 sense that the 2492 00:41:24,493 --> 00:41:25,160 islanders helped 2493 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:25,928 the 2494 00:41:25,928 --> 00:41:27,596 county out at 2495 00:41:27,596 --> 00:41:27,963 a time at, 2496 00:41:27,963 --> 00:41:29,765 you know 2497 00:41:29,765 --> 00:41:30,532 , post covid 2498 00:41:30,532 --> 00:41:32,334 . By 2499 00:41:32,334 --> 00:41:32,668 buying 2500 00:41:32,668 --> 00:41:34,303 those 2501 00:41:34,303 --> 00:41:34,836 specialty tickets when 2502 00:41:34,836 --> 00:41:35,271 before that there were 2503 00:41:35,271 --> 00:41:37,390 expirations 2504 00:41:37,390 --> 00:41:37,506 , and after that 2505 00:41:37,506 --> 00:41:39,506 there were 2506 00:41:39,708 --> 00:41:40,309 . Does it make sense 2507 00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:42,709 to turn them in 2508 00:41:43,112 --> 00:41:43,345 ? Now 2509 00:41:43,345 --> 00:41:43,779 at a 2510 00:41:43,779 --> 00:41:45,779 higher rate 2511 00:41:46,248 --> 00:41:46,482 . One 2512 00:41:46,482 --> 00:41:47,516 for 2513 00:41:47,516 --> 00:41:47,850 one 2514 00:41:47,850 --> 00:41:48,250 doesn't 2515 00:41:48,250 --> 00:41:48,750 make sense 2516 00:41:48,750 --> 00:41:50,152 , but the 2517 00:41:50,152 --> 00:41:50,586 , 2518 00:41:50,586 --> 00:41:50,819 but just 2519 00:41:50,819 --> 00:41:52,200 that 2520 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:52,321 one 2521 00:41:52,321 --> 00:41:52,621 thing plus 2522 00:41:52,621 --> 00:41:54,423 the 2523 00:41:54,423 --> 00:41:55,124 ferry 2524 00:41:55,124 --> 00:41:55,424 committee would would 2525 00:41:55,424 --> 00:41:56,959 help 2526 00:41:56,959 --> 00:41:57,226 both 2527 00:41:57,226 --> 00:41:57,560 sides 2528 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:57,893 , you would 2529 00:41:57,893 --> 00:41:59,262 begin 2530 00:41:59,262 --> 00:41:59,594 to 2531 00:41:59,594 --> 00:41:59,929 see 2532 00:41:59,929 --> 00:42:01,364 more of 2533 00:42:01,364 --> 00:42:01,830 what these 2534 00:42:01,830 --> 00:42:02,230 gentlemen and 2535 00:42:02,230 --> 00:42:03,365 ladies have 2536 00:42:03,365 --> 00:42:04,300 tried 2537 00:42:04,300 --> 00:42:06,202 to say to you in a short period 2538 00:42:06,202 --> 00:42:06,502 of time. They are 2539 00:42:06,502 --> 00:42:07,836 bending 2540 00:42:07,836 --> 00:42:08,404 over 2541 00:42:08,404 --> 00:42:10,404 backwards to be 2542 00:42:10,473 --> 00:42:10,706 . Who 2543 00:42:10,706 --> 00:42:11,206 I've come 2544 00:42:11,206 --> 00:42:12,475 to know as 2545 00:42:12,475 --> 00:42:12,874 ladies 2546 00:42:12,874 --> 00:42:13,242 and gentlemen 2547 00:42:13,242 --> 00:42:15,178 and 2548 00:42:15,178 --> 00:42:15,645 not whining 2549 00:42:15,645 --> 00:42:15,979 , aggravating 2550 00:42:15,979 --> 00:42:17,847 people 2551 00:42:17,847 --> 00:42:19,215 . Anyway 2552 00:42:19,215 --> 00:42:19,549 , good luck 2553 00:42:19,549 --> 00:42:20,183 , guys 2554 00:42:20,183 --> 00:42:21,884 Thank you 2555 00:42:21,884 --> 00:42:22,452 . Thank you. Just to 2556 00:42:22,452 --> 00:42:23,753 correct on the 2557 00:42:23,753 --> 00:42:23,913 punch 2558 00:42:23,913 --> 00:42:24,487 card 2559 00:42:24,487 --> 00:42:24,821 turning in, it's a 2560 00:42:24,821 --> 00:42:26,789 ride for 2561 00:42:26,789 --> 00:42:28,658 rides, so if it was good for 2562 00:42:28,658 --> 00:42:29,225 a 2563 00:42:29,225 --> 00:42:29,826 driver and car 2564 00:42:29,826 --> 00:42:30,627 . The new 2565 00:42:30,627 --> 00:42:31,427 system 2566 00:42:31,427 --> 00:42:32,629 would be driver 2567 00:42:32,629 --> 00:42:33,630 and car. 2568 00:42:33,630 --> 00:42:33,496 There's no 2569 00:42:33,496 --> 00:42:33,796 dollar change. It's 2570 00:42:33,796 --> 00:42:35,532 the 2571 00:42:35,532 --> 00:42:35,832 same thing. It's just, it's 2572 00:42:35,832 --> 00:42:37,634 on 2573 00:42:37,634 --> 00:42:37,867 the e-ticketing instead of 2574 00:42:37,867 --> 00:42:38,268 a 2575 00:42:38,268 --> 00:42:39,469 paper. So 2576 00:42:39,469 --> 00:42:39,736 it's the 2577 00:42:39,736 --> 00:42:40,170 same value. 2578 00:42:40,170 --> 00:42:40,436 There's no 2579 00:42:40,436 --> 00:42:42,436 . Ok 2580 00:42:44,107 --> 00:42:46,107 . Anybody else 2581 00:42:46,242 --> 00:42:46,843 ? 2582 00:42:46,843 --> 00:42:48,843 Like to comment 2583 00:42:55,118 --> 00:42:55,452 ? So 2584 00:42:55,452 --> 00:42:55,752 we 2585 00:42:55,752 --> 00:42:55,986 have 2586 00:42:55,986 --> 00:42:56,386 on 2587 00:42:56,386 --> 00:42:57,788 here a 2588 00:42:57,788 --> 00:42:58,880 potential 2589 00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:58,588 executive 2590 00:42:58,588 --> 00:42:59,923 session. Um, do 2591 00:42:59,923 --> 00:43:00,924 we have 2592 00:43:00,924 --> 00:43:02,592 amount 2593 00:43:02,592 --> 00:43:02,893 of time that we want to do for 2594 00:43:02,893 --> 00:43:04,694 that 2595 00:43:04,694 --> 00:43:06,363 . Please 2596 00:43:06,363 --> 00:43:07,230 . Ok 2597 00:43:07,230 --> 00:43:09,230 Yeah 2598 00:43:09,466 --> 00:43:11,466 . What you 2599 00:43:12,690 --> 00:43:13,537 I 2600 00:43:13,537 --> 00:43:14,137 don't have all the written 2601 00:43:14,137 --> 00:43:16,537 stuff on that. Yeah 2602 00:43:20,543 --> 00:43:20,768 . Of 2603 00:43:20,768 --> 00:43:21,178 our 2604 00:43:21,178 --> 00:43:22,980 comments after that 2605 00:43:22,980 --> 00:43:23,145 . Yeah 2606 00:43:23,145 --> 00:43:23,480 , the 2607 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:24,648 comments 2608 00:43:24,648 --> 00:43:24,914 , you can still, uh, 2609 00:43:24,914 --> 00:43:25,482 send 2610 00:43:25,482 --> 00:43:26,617 in comments, uh, till 2611 00:43:26,617 --> 00:43:26,984 the 2612 00:43:26,984 --> 00:43:27,417 end of 2613 00:43:27,417 --> 00:43:29,417 Um 2614 00:43:29,686 --> 00:43:29,846 , What's the date 2615 00:43:29,846 --> 00:43:30,870 on 2616 00:43:30,870 --> 00:43:31,488 that 2617 00:43:31,488 --> 00:43:31,822 ? Do you have it in front 2618 00:43:31,822 --> 00:43:33,822 of you 2619 00:43:40,931 --> 00:43:41,398 ? The comments can be 2620 00:43:41,398 --> 00:43:42,766 sent in today 2621 00:43:42,766 --> 00:43:43,133 . Till 2622 00:43:43,133 --> 00:43:45,350 till today 2623 00:43:45,350 --> 00:43:45,703 , 2624 00:43:45,703 --> 00:43:46,837 right? Your Honor, before 2625 00:43:46,837 --> 00:43:47,571 we 2626 00:43:47,571 --> 00:43:49,173 retire Eric Peterson 2627 00:43:49,173 --> 00:43:49,774 , uh, 2628 00:43:49,774 --> 00:43:50,107 Saskatchew County, uh, Chief 2629 00:43:50,107 --> 00:43:51,976 Civil 2630 00:43:51,976 --> 00:43:52,610 Deputy prosecutor before 2631 00:43:52,610 --> 00:43:53,811 he retired to executive 2632 00:43:53,811 --> 00:43:54,111 session 2633 00:43:54,111 --> 00:43:54,512 the 2634 00:43:54,512 --> 00:43:56,113 question 2635 00:43:56,113 --> 00:43:56,513 was posed about 2636 00:43:56,513 --> 00:43:56,747 this, this 2637 00:43:56,747 --> 00:43:56,981 and 2638 00:43:56,981 --> 00:43:58,582 the 2639 00:43:58,582 --> 00:43:59,283 next actual 2640 00:43:59,283 --> 00:44:01,352 slide with respect to 2641 00:44:01,352 --> 00:44:01,819 the 2025 2642 00:44:01,819 --> 00:44:03,554 fair shedding 2643 00:44:03,554 --> 00:44:03,788 . This is 2644 00:44:03,788 --> 00:44:05,556 the 2645 00:44:05,556 --> 00:44:05,715 detail line, these two 2646 00:44:05,715 --> 00:44:05,990 pages 2647 00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:07,224 are 2648 00:44:07,224 --> 00:44:07,725 the 2649 00:44:07,725 --> 00:44:08,192 detail 2650 00:44:08,192 --> 00:44:09,660 line from 2651 00:44:09,660 --> 00:44:10,294 the 2652 00:44:10,294 --> 00:44:10,728 Nielsen brothers' book 2653 00:44:10,728 --> 00:44:12,430 the 2654 00:44:12,430 --> 00:44:14,465 Contract. Once they were 2655 00:44:14,465 --> 00:44:14,832 , once 2656 00:44:14,832 --> 00:44:16,832 the uh 2657 00:44:16,868 --> 00:44:17,101 Public works 2658 00:44:17,101 --> 00:44:17,568 department 2659 00:44:17,568 --> 00:44:18,736 and accounting 2660 00:44:18,736 --> 00:44:19,370 division went 2661 00:44:19,370 --> 00:44:20,571 through the individual 2662 00:44:20,571 --> 00:44:21,172 line 2663 00:44:21,172 --> 00:44:21,472 items and you can 2664 00:44:21,472 --> 00:44:21,739 see 2665 00:44:21,739 --> 00:44:23,441 the 2666 00:44:23,441 --> 00:44:23,908 yellow items which were 2667 00:44:23,908 --> 00:44:25,777 presumed to 2668 00:44:25,777 --> 00:44:27,945 be part of the full 2669 00:44:27,945 --> 00:44:28,479 Nielsen Brother boat builder 2670 00:44:28,479 --> 00:44:30,148 contract and part 2671 00:44:30,148 --> 00:44:30,882 of capital. 2672 00:44:30,882 --> 00:44:32,830 They were not attributed 2673 00:44:32,830 --> 00:44:32,784 to 2674 00:44:32,784 --> 00:44:33,510 Capo. The process was 2675 00:44:33,510 --> 00:44:33,385 followed 2676 00:44:33,385 --> 00:44:34,686 which 2677 00:44:34,686 --> 00:44:34,850 we explained as you 2678 00:44:34,850 --> 00:44:35,186 pull 2679 00:44:35,186 --> 00:44:36,821 out the 2680 00:44:36,821 --> 00:44:36,983 items once you get 2681 00:44:36,983 --> 00:44:37,755 the 2682 00:44:37,755 --> 00:44:39,424 final contract, you don't know 2683 00:44:39,424 --> 00:44:39,891 what's going to be capital or 2684 00:44:39,891 --> 00:44:41,358 not until you 2685 00:44:41,358 --> 00:44:41,659 get all the 2686 00:44:41,659 --> 00:44:42,260 line 2687 00:44:42,260 --> 00:44:43,461 items because there 2688 00:44:43,461 --> 00:44:44,620 are change 2689 00:44:44,620 --> 00:44:44,462 orders and things like that 2690 00:44:44,462 --> 00:44:45,864 that occur 2691 00:44:45,864 --> 00:44:46,264 , so what happened is 2692 00:44:46,264 --> 00:44:48,198 This is 2693 00:44:48,198 --> 00:44:48,800 a spreadsheet that was 2694 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,702 provided in the in 2695 00:44:50,702 --> 00:44:51,200 the appeal 2696 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,200 before 2697 00:44:53,710 --> 00:44:54,806 . After 2698 00:44:54,806 --> 00:44:55,273 the 2699 00:44:55,273 --> 00:44:55,940 decision 2700 00:44:55,940 --> 00:44:56,908 explaining what we're going 2701 00:44:56,908 --> 00:44:57,608 to 2702 00:44:57,608 --> 00:44:59,310 be presenting today 2703 00:44:59,310 --> 00:45:00,120 . About this 2704 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,278 case and so what we have 2705 00:45:01,278 --> 00:45:01,880 are 2706 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:02,280 the individual light items 2707 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,748 which were 2708 00:45:03,748 --> 00:45:04,315 pulled out and 2709 00:45:04,315 --> 00:45:04,649 put 2710 00:45:04,649 --> 00:45:06,284 in to 2711 00:45:06,284 --> 00:45:06,651 the 2712 00:45:06,651 --> 00:45:08,487 actual 2713 00:45:08,487 --> 00:45:08,986 um capital 2714 00:45:08,986 --> 00:45:10,188 portion of the 2715 00:45:10,188 --> 00:45:10,855 Nielsen 2716 00:45:10,855 --> 00:45:11,456 brothers' contract contract So 2717 00:45:11,456 --> 00:45:11,823 that's the explanation. These 2718 00:45:11,823 --> 00:45:12,657 numbers 2719 00:45:12,657 --> 00:45:13,125 were 2720 00:45:13,125 --> 00:45:13,348 not available 2721 00:45:13,348 --> 00:45:13,592 in 2722 00:45:13,592 --> 00:45:15,527 2024 2723 00:45:15,527 --> 00:45:17,950 . In 2024, we 2724 00:45:17,950 --> 00:45:17,395 were 2725 00:45:17,395 --> 00:45:17,929 losing 2726 00:45:17,929 --> 00:45:19,929 the 2727 00:45:20,232 --> 00:45:20,832 projected 2025 numbers, so 2728 00:45:20,832 --> 00:45:21,933 I don't know how 2729 00:45:21,933 --> 00:45:22,467 do you make 2730 00:45:22,467 --> 00:45:23,936 that clear and 2731 00:45:23,936 --> 00:45:24,603 so what we're 2732 00:45:24,603 --> 00:45:25,137 having, we're in the situation 2733 00:45:25,137 --> 00:45:26,605 we're having to 2734 00:45:26,605 --> 00:45:27,205 address now is 2735 00:45:27,205 --> 00:45:28,774 a situation where 2736 00:45:28,774 --> 00:45:28,931 How do 2737 00:45:28,931 --> 00:45:29,241 you 2738 00:45:29,241 --> 00:45:31,760 calculate 2739 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,760 a past projection 2740 00:45:33,146 --> 00:45:33,745 . 2741 00:45:33,745 --> 00:45:34,946 Instead we're using the 2742 00:45:34,946 --> 00:45:35,280 actual 2743 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:35,881 numbers 2744 00:45:35,881 --> 00:45:37,449 from 2025 2745 00:45:37,449 --> 00:45:38,283 , how they 2746 00:45:38,283 --> 00:45:39,351 were actually assigned to this 2747 00:45:39,351 --> 00:45:40,180 , 2748 00:45:40,180 --> 00:45:40,552 and I understand there are 2749 00:45:40,552 --> 00:45:41,953 other line items 2750 00:45:41,953 --> 00:45:42,287 which 2751 00:45:42,287 --> 00:45:42,955 were 2752 00:45:42,955 --> 00:45:44,123 discussed or brought 2753 00:45:44,123 --> 00:45:44,623 forward 2754 00:45:44,623 --> 00:45:45,157 both today in a written 2755 00:45:45,157 --> 00:45:46,492 document that was 2756 00:45:46,492 --> 00:45:47,192 provided by 2757 00:45:47,192 --> 00:45:47,626 Fair Affairs entering the 2758 00:45:47,626 --> 00:45:48,961 portion of 2759 00:45:48,961 --> 00:45:49,528 the sharing, and I 2760 00:45:49,528 --> 00:45:51,195 think we have the 2761 00:45:51,195 --> 00:45:51,359 ability to 2762 00:45:51,359 --> 00:45:51,730 , 2763 00:45:51,730 --> 00:45:53,332 to have a 2764 00:45:53,332 --> 00:45:54,660 conversation to 2765 00:45:54,660 --> 00:45:55,634 provide information to these 2766 00:45:55,634 --> 00:45:56,100 people about 2767 00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:56,368 that 2768 00:45:56,368 --> 00:45:56,802 that 2769 00:45:56,802 --> 00:45:58,304 information 2770 00:45:58,304 --> 00:45:58,704 . And so that's what 2771 00:45:58,704 --> 00:46:00,390 we, I, i 2772 00:46:00,390 --> 00:46:00,473 just want to try 2773 00:46:00,473 --> 00:46:02,473 this 2774 00:46:02,508 --> 00:46:02,908 explanation and let you know 2775 00:46:02,908 --> 00:46:04,310 that that 2776 00:46:04,310 --> 00:46:04,744 . Um 2777 00:46:04,744 --> 00:46:05,311 , that that's 2778 00:46:05,311 --> 00:46:06,712 where we're at, and 2779 00:46:06,712 --> 00:46:07,313 that's the 2780 00:46:07,313 --> 00:46:07,813 information about this these 2781 00:46:07,813 --> 00:46:08,881 particular items 2782 00:46:08,881 --> 00:46:09,682 . So 2783 00:46:09,682 --> 00:46:09,982 , Thank you 2784 00:46:09,982 --> 00:46:11,584 for 2785 00:46:11,584 --> 00:46:11,817 the explanation. I 2786 00:46:11,817 --> 00:46:12,485 asked 2787 00:46:12,485 --> 00:46:13,119 specifically because when 2788 00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:13,686 I 2789 00:46:13,686 --> 00:46:14,453 looked at that, the quick 2790 00:46:14,453 --> 00:46:15,855 glance I got at it, uh, while 2791 00:46:15,855 --> 00:46:16,389 it was up 2792 00:46:16,389 --> 00:46:16,856 , it looked like what 2793 00:46:16,856 --> 00:46:18,570 we would have 2794 00:46:18,570 --> 00:46:18,424 had after the 2795 00:46:18,424 --> 00:46:18,691 fact, so 2796 00:46:18,691 --> 00:46:20,691 . Mhm 2797 00:46:20,693 --> 00:46:20,926 . It 2798 00:46:20,926 --> 00:46:21,327 , it looked 2799 00:46:21,327 --> 00:46:22,662 like what 2800 00:46:22,662 --> 00:46:23,329 we would have after 2801 00:46:23,329 --> 00:46:23,729 the fact, and I was trying to 2802 00:46:23,729 --> 00:46:24,697 decide if 2803 00:46:24,697 --> 00:46:24,931 this 2804 00:46:24,931 --> 00:46:25,197 was 2805 00:46:25,197 --> 00:46:25,798 something 2806 00:46:25,798 --> 00:46:27,660 that was after or if 2807 00:46:27,660 --> 00:46:27,231 this 2808 00:46:27,231 --> 00:46:27,967 was 2809 00:46:27,967 --> 00:46:29,368 actually a quote from them that 2810 00:46:29,368 --> 00:46:29,669 was used for 2811 00:46:29,669 --> 00:46:29,969 the 2812 00:46:29,969 --> 00:46:31,204 2025 2813 00:46:31,204 --> 00:46:31,871 fair 2814 00:46:31,871 --> 00:46:32,571 setting. So that's why I was 2815 00:46:32,571 --> 00:46:33,940 asking the question to help 2816 00:46:33,940 --> 00:46:34,540 with my 2817 00:46:34,540 --> 00:46:36,800 clarity on what 2818 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:36,676 was 2819 00:46:36,676 --> 00:46:36,909 physically available 2820 00:46:36,909 --> 00:46:38,440 in 2821 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:38,745 2025 2822 00:46:38,745 --> 00:46:39,278 when they were making these 2823 00:46:39,278 --> 00:46:40,813 choices 2824 00:46:40,813 --> 00:46:41,279 As a 2024 I 2825 00:46:41,279 --> 00:46:42,415 should 2826 00:46:42,415 --> 00:46:43,490 say. 2827 00:46:43,490 --> 00:46:43,650 I'm going to see if I can get 2828 00:46:43,650 --> 00:46:44,817 the right direction on 2829 00:46:44,817 --> 00:46:45,285 this 2830 00:46:45,285 --> 00:46:47,120 scrolling here 2831 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:47,320 . That's 2832 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:47,854 what 2833 00:46:47,854 --> 00:46:48,870 this explanation 2834 00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:49,989 was 2835 00:46:49,989 --> 00:46:50,190 was 2836 00:46:50,190 --> 00:46:50,523 about. 2837 00:46:50,523 --> 00:46:50,924 The the 2838 00:46:50,924 --> 00:46:51,757 JANUARY 2839 00:46:51,757 --> 00:46:52,258 2021 2840 00:46:52,258 --> 00:46:52,525 , 2025 was 2841 00:46:52,525 --> 00:46:53,860 when 2842 00:46:53,860 --> 00:46:54,359 the 2843 00:46:54,359 --> 00:46:54,928 Nielsen brothers 2844 00:46:54,928 --> 00:46:56,620 contract was signed 2845 00:46:56,620 --> 00:46:56,222 , so 2846 00:46:56,222 --> 00:46:56,796 we 2847 00:46:56,796 --> 00:46:57,197 don't have any knowledge about 2848 00:46:57,197 --> 00:46:58,798 the line 2849 00:46:58,798 --> 00:46:59,980 items, how they 2850 00:46:59,980 --> 00:46:59,766 were 2851 00:46:59,766 --> 00:47:01,634 trolled between 2852 00:47:01,634 --> 00:47:03,203 uh Kapla at the 2853 00:47:03,203 --> 00:47:03,603 time, we signed 2854 00:47:03,603 --> 00:47:03,771 that contract 2855 00:47:03,771 --> 00:47:04,700 . 2856 00:47:04,700 --> 00:47:05,705 So this 2857 00:47:05,705 --> 00:47:08,341 is this the detail that 2858 00:47:08,341 --> 00:47:09,843 we gave in this, in these 2859 00:47:09,843 --> 00:47:10,276 two 2860 00:47:10,276 --> 00:47:10,577 pages are 2861 00:47:10,577 --> 00:47:12,379 the 2862 00:47:12,379 --> 00:47:13,460 contract is 2863 00:47:13,460 --> 00:47:14,180 complete, the dry dock 2864 00:47:14,180 --> 00:47:14,814 went 2865 00:47:14,814 --> 00:47:15,348 into MAY. It takes time to get 2866 00:47:15,348 --> 00:47:16,950 those, those in 2867 00:47:16,950 --> 00:47:17,651 . Voices all 2868 00:47:17,651 --> 00:47:18,585 sorted out and provided 2869 00:47:18,585 --> 00:47:19,190 to 2870 00:47:19,190 --> 00:47:21,190 public works 2871 00:47:21,288 --> 00:47:21,788 . And so that's, 2872 00:47:21,788 --> 00:47:22,289 that's what what that 2873 00:47:22,289 --> 00:47:23,723 information is 2874 00:47:23,723 --> 00:47:24,291 the detail. Ok, 2875 00:47:24,291 --> 00:47:25,525 so the numbers that 2876 00:47:25,525 --> 00:47:25,792 were used 2877 00:47:25,792 --> 00:47:26,426 when 2878 00:47:26,426 --> 00:47:27,760 , in 2024, when 2879 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:28,228 they went 2880 00:47:28,228 --> 00:47:28,794 through this 2881 00:47:28,794 --> 00:47:30,794 process was 2882 00:47:31,231 --> 00:47:31,997 the 2883 00:47:31,997 --> 00:47:32,799 estimate, I'm guessing that we 2884 00:47:32,799 --> 00:47:33,399 had received projection is an 2885 00:47:33,399 --> 00:47:34,501 estimate. So there was 2886 00:47:34,501 --> 00:47:35,202 an 2887 00:47:35,202 --> 00:47:35,702 estimate made just based off of 2888 00:47:35,702 --> 00:47:37,300 what we expected 2889 00:47:37,300 --> 00:47:37,471 was needed, 2890 00:47:37,471 --> 00:47:39,720 and that's how 2891 00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:39,439 they 2892 00:47:39,439 --> 00:47:39,940 helped 2893 00:47:39,940 --> 00:47:41,508 calculate, but I 2894 00:47:41,508 --> 00:47:42,175 , I think Cindy 2895 00:47:42,175 --> 00:47:42,576 brought up a good point. We 2896 00:47:42,576 --> 00:47:43,777 knew we 2897 00:47:43,777 --> 00:47:44,477 were going to haul out. 2898 00:47:44,477 --> 00:47:46,146 We knew we were going to 2899 00:47:46,146 --> 00:47:46,380 replace the engines 2900 00:47:46,380 --> 00:47:46,679 . Why was 2901 00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:48,549 the 2902 00:47:48,549 --> 00:47:50,150 Projected 2903 00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:50,551 only 200,000 2904 00:47:50,551 --> 00:47:50,784 instead of 2905 00:47:50,784 --> 00:47:51,251 the 2906 00:47:51,251 --> 00:47:52,753 million. That 2907 00:47:52,753 --> 00:47:53,187 was the point that Cindy 2908 00:47:53,187 --> 00:47:55,187 brought up 2909 00:47:55,222 --> 00:47:55,689 . Well, those are 2910 00:47:55,689 --> 00:47:57,156 some of the 2911 00:47:57,156 --> 00:47:57,323 questions that 2912 00:47:57,323 --> 00:47:57,925 we 2913 00:47:57,925 --> 00:47:58,258 have, we have provided to us 2914 00:47:58,258 --> 00:47:59,293 today 2915 00:47:59,293 --> 00:47:59,893 , which 2916 00:47:59,893 --> 00:48:00,294 I think public 2917 00:48:00,294 --> 00:48:01,629 works and I 2918 00:48:01,629 --> 00:48:01,929 can work on 2919 00:48:01,929 --> 00:48:02,196 getting 2920 00:48:02,196 --> 00:48:04,164 the 2921 00:48:04,164 --> 00:48:04,398 information for to 2922 00:48:04,398 --> 00:48:04,932 explain 2923 00:48:04,932 --> 00:48:05,866 the differences and 2924 00:48:05,866 --> 00:48:06,330 why 2925 00:48:06,330 --> 00:48:06,599 those 2926 00:48:06,599 --> 00:48:08,469 numbers are the way 2927 00:48:08,469 --> 00:48:08,669 they were 2928 00:48:08,669 --> 00:48:09,203 . 2929 00:48:09,203 --> 00:48:10,436 But that is a 2930 00:48:10,436 --> 00:48:11,305 good point 2931 00:48:11,305 --> 00:48:12,840 because we knew we're gonna pay 2932 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:13,107 the point, Your 2933 00:48:13,107 --> 00:48:13,274 Honor 2934 00:48:13,274 --> 00:48:13,908 . We're 2935 00:48:13,908 --> 00:48:15,276 going to have a haul 2936 00:48:15,276 --> 00:48:15,843 out and 2937 00:48:15,843 --> 00:48:17,344 that would have 2938 00:48:17,344 --> 00:48:17,745 lowered the 2939 00:48:17,745 --> 00:48:19,580 calculated 2940 00:48:19,580 --> 00:48:19,747 . Ticket price 2941 00:48:19,747 --> 00:48:20,800 , 2942 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:20,581 correct 2943 00:48:20,581 --> 00:48:21,682 , uh, by having 2944 00:48:21,682 --> 00:48:22,283 the 2945 00:48:22,283 --> 00:48:22,483 lower estimate 2946 00:48:22,483 --> 00:48:23,818 for 2947 00:48:23,818 --> 00:48:24,317 costs versus 2948 00:48:24,317 --> 00:48:26,287 what was actual 2949 00:48:26,287 --> 00:48:26,787 . Yeah, if you 2950 00:48:26,787 --> 00:48:28,355 would have had a 2951 00:48:28,355 --> 00:48:29,560 higher 2952 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:29,423 projected cost, it would have 2953 00:48:29,423 --> 00:48:30,858 had the 2954 00:48:30,858 --> 00:48:31,157 increase 2955 00:48:31,157 --> 00:48:31,492 be more 2956 00:48:31,492 --> 00:48:32,627 , but 2957 00:48:32,627 --> 00:48:33,427 , 2958 00:48:33,427 --> 00:48:35,263 but like I mentioned, 800 2959 00:48:35,263 --> 00:48:35,595 off 2960 00:48:35,595 --> 00:48:36,130 of the 2961 00:48:36,130 --> 00:48:37,665 projection, so it's 2962 00:48:37,665 --> 00:48:38,199 . 2963 00:48:38,199 --> 00:48:38,633 Just projections are very 2964 00:48:38,633 --> 00:48:39,934 difficult and 2965 00:48:39,934 --> 00:48:40,400 . Ok 2966 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:40,768 . There's also 2967 00:48:40,768 --> 00:48:42,103 another 2968 00:48:42,103 --> 00:48:42,336 piece of kind 2969 00:48:42,336 --> 00:48:43,104 of 2970 00:48:43,104 --> 00:48:44,305 misinformation or lack of 2971 00:48:44,305 --> 00:48:44,672 clarity 2972 00:48:44,672 --> 00:48:44,972 , the 2973 00:48:44,972 --> 00:48:45,339 ferry design 2974 00:48:45,339 --> 00:48:46,741 dollars 2975 00:48:46,741 --> 00:48:47,208 were designed money 2976 00:48:47,208 --> 00:48:48,743 from the state 2977 00:48:48,743 --> 00:48:49,410 . They weren't, 2978 00:48:49,410 --> 00:48:49,610 didn't come from any of 2979 00:48:49,610 --> 00:48:49,876 you, 2980 00:48:49,876 --> 00:48:51,846 and 2981 00:48:51,846 --> 00:48:52,246 could not be used in 2982 00:48:52,246 --> 00:48:52,547 anything but 2983 00:48:52,547 --> 00:48:53,214 fairy 2984 00:48:53,214 --> 00:48:53,548 design 2985 00:48:53,548 --> 00:48:54,150 , and 2986 00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:55,650 I had met with 2987 00:48:55,650 --> 00:48:56,284 Steve Orsini 2988 00:48:56,284 --> 00:48:56,516 before I was even elected, and 2989 00:48:56,516 --> 00:48:57,952 I 2990 00:48:57,952 --> 00:48:58,553 agreed with him then the 2991 00:48:58,553 --> 00:48:59,888 electric ferry was not a 2992 00:48:59,888 --> 00:49:00,522 great 2993 00:49:00,522 --> 00:49:01,220 idea, and I'm really glad to 2994 00:49:01,220 --> 00:49:02,290 see that we've 2995 00:49:02,290 --> 00:49:02,991 moved away from 2996 00:49:02,991 --> 00:49:03,324 that, but those were not our 2997 00:49:03,324 --> 00:49:04,726 dollars 2998 00:49:04,726 --> 00:49:05,560 to 2999 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,361 be reallocated or 3000 00:49:07,361 --> 00:49:07,862 utilized differently. They just 3001 00:49:07,862 --> 00:49:09,297 gave us a plan 3002 00:49:09,297 --> 00:49:09,596 to base our 3003 00:49:09,596 --> 00:49:09,931 . 3004 00:49:09,931 --> 00:49:11,232 Decision 3005 00:49:11,232 --> 00:49:11,766 or 3006 00:49:11,766 --> 00:49:11,999 further decision 3007 00:49:11,999 --> 00:49:13,635 on 3008 00:49:13,635 --> 00:49:14,102 now looking 3009 00:49:14,102 --> 00:49:14,335 at 3010 00:49:14,335 --> 00:49:16,370 a 3011 00:49:16,370 --> 00:49:16,738 diesel hybrid, 3012 00:49:16,738 --> 00:49:18,390 which will be the ferry 3013 00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:18,673 , but 3014 00:49:18,673 --> 00:49:19,407 that's still, we're looking at 3015 00:49:19,407 --> 00:49:20,608 10 years down the road where 3016 00:49:20,608 --> 00:49:20,842 our ferry is 3017 00:49:20,842 --> 00:49:21,109 now 3018 00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:22,911 working 3019 00:49:22,911 --> 00:49:23,545 adequately and we can keep it 3020 00:49:23,545 --> 00:49:24,813 going and we can work 3021 00:49:24,813 --> 00:49:25,413 slowly 3022 00:49:25,413 --> 00:49:25,880 towards getting adequate 3023 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,249 funding for the 3024 00:49:27,249 --> 00:49:27,649 diesel hybrid 3025 00:49:27,649 --> 00:49:29,117 instead of 3026 00:49:29,117 --> 00:49:29,351 the 3027 00:49:29,351 --> 00:49:29,951 incredibly 3028 00:49:29,951 --> 00:49:30,452 expensive, as you pointed out 3029 00:49:30,452 --> 00:49:31,620 years ago, Mr 3030 00:49:31,620 --> 00:49:32,530 . Arsini 3031 00:49:32,530 --> 00:49:32,454 , very 3032 00:49:32,454 --> 00:49:34,454 expensive 3033 00:49:34,856 --> 00:49:35,257 and 3034 00:49:35,257 --> 00:49:35,690 very not, no 3035 00:49:35,690 --> 00:49:36,324 , 3036 00:49:36,324 --> 00:49:36,825 we're not sure how well it's 3037 00:49:36,825 --> 00:49:38,226 gonna work. So 3038 00:49:38,226 --> 00:49:38,402 , so 3039 00:49:38,402 --> 00:49:39,610 those 3040 00:49:39,610 --> 00:49:39,694 dollars, we have to take that 3041 00:49:39,694 --> 00:49:40,628 out of the conversation 3042 00:49:40,628 --> 00:49:41,630 . They 3043 00:49:41,630 --> 00:49:42,931 aren't part 3044 00:49:42,931 --> 00:49:43,765 conversation about 3045 00:49:43,765 --> 00:49:45,330 how we come up with a very 3046 00:49:45,330 --> 00:49:45,500 good 3047 00:49:45,500 --> 00:49:45,967 ferry for our 3048 00:49:45,967 --> 00:49:47,690 county 3049 00:49:47,690 --> 00:49:47,402 for for 3050 00:49:47,402 --> 00:49:49,402 price 3051 00:49:49,971 --> 00:49:50,272 . So 3052 00:49:50,272 --> 00:49:50,706 Alan 3053 00:49:50,706 --> 00:49:52,574 did, was there 3054 00:49:52,574 --> 00:49:52,841 ? 3055 00:49:52,841 --> 00:49:54,810 So I 3056 00:49:54,810 --> 00:49:55,476 , I 3057 00:49:55,476 --> 00:49:56,178 , um, I, I 3058 00:49:56,178 --> 00:49:56,612 just want to 3059 00:49:56,612 --> 00:49:57,212 put forward to the 3060 00:49:57,212 --> 00:49:58,514 commissioners you have 3061 00:49:58,514 --> 00:49:59,281 2 3062 00:49:59,281 --> 00:49:59,548 resolutions before you today. 3063 00:49:59,548 --> 00:50:01,490 One 3064 00:50:01,490 --> 00:50:01,650 pertains to the 3065 00:50:01,650 --> 00:50:03,252 punch cards 3066 00:50:03,252 --> 00:50:03,752 and the expiration 3067 00:50:03,752 --> 00:50:04,186 of them, and 3068 00:50:04,186 --> 00:50:05,821 another is 3069 00:50:05,821 --> 00:50:06,388 , is what to do, and 3070 00:50:06,388 --> 00:50:07,623 I understand 3071 00:50:07,623 --> 00:50:07,890 that 3072 00:50:07,890 --> 00:50:08,590 those 3073 00:50:08,590 --> 00:50:09,625 indicated today that 3074 00:50:09,625 --> 00:50:10,192 you did, 3075 00:50:10,192 --> 00:50:10,459 they did not get 3076 00:50:10,459 --> 00:50:10,617 the 3077 00:50:10,617 --> 00:50:10,926 draft 3078 00:50:10,926 --> 00:50:12,261 version 3079 00:50:12,261 --> 00:50:12,561 of that was 3080 00:50:12,561 --> 00:50:13,280 not 3081 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,296 distributed 3082 00:50:14,296 --> 00:50:14,763 . So 3083 00:50:14,763 --> 00:50:15,970 we 3084 00:50:15,970 --> 00:50:17,970 have built 3085 00:50:17,166 --> 00:50:17,666 into this an opportunity for an 3086 00:50:17,666 --> 00:50:18,834 executive session 3087 00:50:18,834 --> 00:50:19,668 for you to 3088 00:50:19,668 --> 00:50:19,935 discuss this matter if you wish 3089 00:50:19,935 --> 00:50:21,370 to 3090 00:50:21,370 --> 00:50:21,937 do these matters, if you 3091 00:50:21,937 --> 00:50:23,772 wish to do so, so 3092 00:50:23,772 --> 00:50:24,540 . That's the 3093 00:50:24,540 --> 00:50:26,175 question of whether we wish to 3094 00:50:26,175 --> 00:50:26,742 do so at 3095 00:50:26,742 --> 00:50:28,410 this time or whether 3096 00:50:28,410 --> 00:50:30,413 or not you wish to enter any of 3097 00:50:30,413 --> 00:50:32,413 the resolutions 3098 00:50:32,415 --> 00:50:32,648 . So 3099 00:50:32,648 --> 00:50:32,882 , so 3100 00:50:32,882 --> 00:50:33,382 that's 3101 00:50:33,382 --> 00:50:34,583 the the proposals 3102 00:50:34,583 --> 00:50:35,510 that are 3103 00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:35,351 before you today 3104 00:50:35,351 --> 00:50:36,818 . We 3105 00:50:36,818 --> 00:50:36,978 have 3106 00:50:36,978 --> 00:50:37,586 an 3107 00:50:37,586 --> 00:50:38,154 opportunity to discuss either 3108 00:50:38,154 --> 00:50:38,988 of those matters in 3109 00:50:38,988 --> 00:50:39,822 the 3110 00:50:39,822 --> 00:50:42,458 executive session if you'd like 3111 00:50:42,458 --> 00:50:43,426 Commissioner Browning 3112 00:50:43,426 --> 00:50:43,826 , any 3113 00:50:43,826 --> 00:50:45,826 thoughts 3114 00:50:48,997 --> 00:50:50,266 ? You get 3115 00:50:50,266 --> 00:50:50,666 that? I'm 3116 00:50:50,666 --> 00:50:52,666 just curious 3117 00:50:54,971 --> 00:50:55,471 . Person 3118 00:50:55,471 --> 00:50:55,972 . Is there 3119 00:50:55,972 --> 00:50:57,106 a reason why we 3120 00:50:57,106 --> 00:50:57,507 didn't get that 3121 00:50:57,507 --> 00:50:59,507 that text 3122 00:50:59,542 --> 00:50:59,809 . I 3123 00:50:59,809 --> 00:51:00,343 would take 3124 00:51:00,343 --> 00:51:00,677 interest in the executive 3125 00:51:00,677 --> 00:51:02,677 session 3126 00:51:03,980 --> 00:51:04,514 . Mr 3127 00:51:04,514 --> 00:51:06,382 . Brownie 3128 00:51:06,382 --> 00:51:06,549 . I 3129 00:51:06,549 --> 00:51:07,116 don't 3130 00:51:07,116 --> 00:51:08,585 have the script on 3131 00:51:08,585 --> 00:51:08,917 going to the 3132 00:51:08,917 --> 00:51:10,917 session 3133 00:51:10,987 --> 00:51:12,987 . Right here 3134 00:51:13,156 --> 00:51:13,389 And we 3135 00:51:13,389 --> 00:51:14,570 just 3136 00:51:14,570 --> 00:51:15,458 needed time 3137 00:51:15,458 --> 00:51:15,825 . As 3138 00:51:15,825 --> 00:51:16,158 to when you 3139 00:51:16,158 --> 00:51:17,460 think 3140 00:51:17,460 --> 00:51:17,727 you'll be 3141 00:51:17,727 --> 00:51:18,228 ending the 3142 00:51:18,228 --> 00:51:20,228 executive session 3143 00:51:20,363 --> 00:51:21,798 . So 3144 00:51:21,798 --> 00:51:22,980 we 3145 00:51:22,980 --> 00:51:22,599 will 3146 00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:22,998 be 3147 00:51:22,998 --> 00:51:24,634 leaving to 3148 00:51:24,634 --> 00:51:25,167 go into 3149 00:51:25,167 --> 00:51:26,669 executive 3150 00:51:26,669 --> 00:51:26,936 session. It 3151 00:51:26,936 --> 00:51:28,936 is 3152 00:51:29,139 --> 00:51:29,439 now 10:53 3153 00:51:29,439 --> 00:51:31,207 , um 3154 00:51:31,207 --> 00:51:31,709 . 3155 00:51:31,709 --> 00:51:33,420 And we will 3156 00:51:33,420 --> 00:51:33,343 go 3157 00:51:33,343 --> 00:51:34,110 into executive 3158 00:51:34,110 --> 00:51:35,545 session in the next room over 3159 00:51:35,545 --> 00:51:35,779 . 3160 00:51:35,779 --> 00:51:36,279 Is 3161 00:51:36,279 --> 00:51:37,747 that ok 3162 00:51:37,747 --> 00:51:38,114 ? And 3163 00:51:38,114 --> 00:51:38,348 then we'll 3164 00:51:38,348 --> 00:51:38,648 , um, 3165 00:51:38,648 --> 00:51:39,849 we're 3166 00:51:39,849 --> 00:51:40,183 gonna 3167 00:51:40,183 --> 00:51:40,584 be there 3168 00:51:40,584 --> 00:51:41,180 for 3169 00:51:41,180 --> 00:51:42,318 roughly 30 3170 00:51:42,318 --> 00:51:42,586 minutes we'll 3171 00:51:42,586 --> 00:51:43,119 come 3172 00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:45,119 back by 11:30 3173 00:51:46,990 --> 00:51:48,825 . So 3174 00:51:48,825 --> 00:51:49,259 , uh we like 3175 00:51:49,259 --> 00:51:49,793 to call 3176 00:51:49,793 --> 00:51:51,793 I'm gonna call 3177 00:51:52,128 --> 00:51:53,930 executive session for potential 3178 00:51:53,930 --> 00:51:55,465 litigation dealing with 3179 00:51:55,465 --> 00:51:55,732 rcw 3180 00:51:55,732 --> 00:51:57,732 4230 3181 00:51:58,601 --> 00:52:00,504 . 1101 3182 00:52:00,504 --> 00:52:00,803 Princess who expect 3183 00:52:00,803 --> 00:52:02,803 to be 3184 00:52:02,806 --> 00:52:04,806 executive session until 3185 00:52:05,409 --> 00:52:07,409 11:25 and 3186 00:52:07,711 --> 00:52:09,790 , We will be 3187 00:52:09,790 --> 00:52:09,513 in the 3188 00:52:09,513 --> 00:52:10,470 separate room 3189 00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:11,881 over there, and 3190 00:52:11,881 --> 00:52:12,649 we'll come back in if we aren't 3191 00:52:12,649 --> 00:52:13,584 able to come to a conclusion 3192 00:52:13,584 --> 00:52:13,984 by 3193 00:52:13,984 --> 00:52:14,251 that time 3194 00:52:14,251 --> 00:52:14,684 . So 3195 00:52:14,684 --> 00:52:15,886 with that we 3196 00:52:15,886 --> 00:52:16,553 were 3197 00:52:16,553 --> 00:52:16,954 adjourned to the executive 3198 00:52:16,954 --> 00:52:18,954 session. Ok 3199 00:52:59,680 --> 00:52:59,469 Out 3200 00:52:59,469 --> 00:52:59,803 of 3201 00:52:59,803 --> 00:53:00,236 executive 3202 00:53:00,236 --> 00:53:00,837 session and no 3203 00:53:00,837 --> 00:53:01,504 decisions have been 3204 00:53:01,504 --> 00:53:01,971 . We are 3205 00:53:01,971 --> 00:53:03,440 coming made 3206 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:04,730 . Um 3207 00:53:04,730 --> 00:53:05,175 , with that 3208 00:53:05,175 --> 00:53:05,508 , we 3209 00:53:05,508 --> 00:53:06,420 have a 3210 00:53:06,420 --> 00:53:08,420 little bit uh 3211 00:53:09,713 --> 00:53:10,547 . Going 3212 00:53:10,547 --> 00:53:12,382 forward from then we have uh a 3213 00:53:12,382 --> 00:53:13,830 couple motions, Commissioner 3214 00:53:13,830 --> 00:53:14,383 Brown, do you have a motion 3215 00:53:14,383 --> 00:53:14,985 ? 3216 00:53:14,985 --> 00:53:15,318 I'd certainly like to start 3217 00:53:15,318 --> 00:53:17,153 with a 3218 00:53:17,153 --> 00:53:17,587 resolution amending and 3219 00:53:17,587 --> 00:53:19,220 superseding 3220 00:53:19,220 --> 00:53:19,523 the 3221 00:53:19,523 --> 00:53:21,523 resolution 2 3222 00:53:21,725 --> 00:53:23,660 r 3223 00:53:23,660 --> 00:53:25,628 20,250,260 and 3224 00:53:25,628 --> 00:53:26,463 r 3225 00:53:26,463 --> 00:53:26,863 20,260,060 3226 00:53:26,863 --> 00:53:28,310 requiring 3227 00:53:28,310 --> 00:53:28,198 conversions of 3228 00:53:28,198 --> 00:53:28,632 all 3229 00:53:28,632 --> 00:53:28,932 punch cards 3230 00:53:28,932 --> 00:53:30,330 sold 3231 00:53:30,330 --> 00:53:30,734 without 3232 00:53:30,734 --> 00:53:32,734 expiration. I'll second 3233 00:53:32,736 --> 00:53:33,360 . It is 3234 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:33,302 move 3235 00:53:33,302 --> 00:53:35,720 to 3236 00:53:35,720 --> 00:53:35,338 2 3237 00:53:35,338 --> 00:53:36,773 to 3238 00:53:36,773 --> 00:53:37,140 have 3239 00:53:37,140 --> 00:53:37,707 a 3240 00:53:37,707 --> 00:53:38,750 resolution 3241 00:53:38,750 --> 00:53:39,443 amending 3242 00:53:39,443 --> 00:53:39,810 and superseding 3243 00:53:39,810 --> 00:53:41,578 resolution 3244 00:53:41,578 --> 00:53:43,578 . Ours 3245 00:53:45,916 --> 00:53:46,350 . 202502 3246 00:53:46,350 --> 00:53:48,850 60 3247 00:53:48,850 --> 00:53:50,850 and 3248 00:53:51,555 --> 00:53:52,523 our 2026-0060 requiring 3249 00:53:52,523 --> 00:53:53,390 a 3250 00:53:53,390 --> 00:53:54,992 conversion of all punch cards 3251 00:53:54,992 --> 00:53:55,492 sold 3252 00:53:55,492 --> 00:53:57,261 without expiration 3253 00:53:57,261 --> 00:53:57,795 . Any 3254 00:53:57,795 --> 00:53:59,430 more discussion 3255 00:53:59,430 --> 00:54:00,630 ? Like just a, 3256 00:54:00,630 --> 00:54:00,226 just a, just to verify 3257 00:54:00,226 --> 00:54:00,530 , this 3258 00:54:00,530 --> 00:54:02,199 means 3259 00:54:02,199 --> 00:54:03,701 that any 3260 00:54:03,701 --> 00:54:04,670 , any 3261 00:54:04,670 --> 00:54:04,668 punch card 3262 00:54:04,668 --> 00:54:06,236 you have will 3263 00:54:06,236 --> 00:54:06,537 be 3264 00:54:06,537 --> 00:54:07,400 exchanged ride 3265 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:08,639 for ride, no 3266 00:54:08,639 --> 00:54:09,505 dollar value, ride 3267 00:54:09,505 --> 00:54:10,574 for ride, person for person 3268 00:54:10,574 --> 00:54:11,141 , 3269 00:54:11,141 --> 00:54:11,575 bike for bike, whatever you 3270 00:54:11,575 --> 00:54:12,910 have it for 3271 00:54:12,910 --> 00:54:13,644 , you'll get the 3272 00:54:13,644 --> 00:54:14,944 value, you'll get the ride 3273 00:54:14,944 --> 00:54:15,613 , 3274 00:54:15,613 --> 00:54:16,280 there's no discussion of value 3275 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:17,414 of what you paid for it 3276 00:54:17,414 --> 00:54:17,570 , so 3277 00:54:17,570 --> 00:54:17,815 and 3278 00:54:17,815 --> 00:54:18,215 it 3279 00:54:18,215 --> 00:54:20,500 beyond 3280 00:54:20,500 --> 00:54:22,500 into forever 3281 00:54:22,860 --> 00:54:22,386 . And you 3282 00:54:22,386 --> 00:54:24,386 can 3283 00:54:24,755 --> 00:54:25,256 Paul and have it over the 3284 00:54:25,256 --> 00:54:26,523 phone to have 3285 00:54:26,523 --> 00:54:27,224 that happen. You 3286 00:54:27,224 --> 00:54:27,758 need to call and make that 3287 00:54:27,758 --> 00:54:28,726 conversion happen 3288 00:54:28,726 --> 00:54:29,527 , and there's 3289 00:54:29,527 --> 00:54:31,228 no time limit for that 3290 00:54:31,228 --> 00:54:31,388 conversion. No, and we'll 3291 00:54:31,388 --> 00:54:32,129 put 3292 00:54:32,129 --> 00:54:33,698 the information on who to call 3293 00:54:33,698 --> 00:54:34,980 and how to call, so 3294 00:54:34,980 --> 00:54:35,433 it's clear 3295 00:54:35,433 --> 00:54:35,800 , 3296 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,800 ok, yeah 3297 00:54:37,935 --> 00:54:39,770 . Any more discussion 3298 00:54:39,770 --> 00:54:40,638 ? 3299 00:54:40,638 --> 00:54:42,807 All those in favor say aye. Aye 3300 00:54:42,807 --> 00:54:44,410 those opposed, motion passes 3301 00:54:44,410 --> 00:54:44,342 . 3302 00:54:44,342 --> 00:54:46,342 Good 3303 00:54:46,944 --> 00:54:47,511 . The 3304 00:54:47,511 --> 00:54:48,813 next item 3305 00:54:48,813 --> 00:54:49,313 , um, 3306 00:54:49,313 --> 00:54:51,215 because of the 3307 00:54:51,215 --> 00:54:51,582 . Court order we 3308 00:54:51,582 --> 00:54:51,982 have 3309 00:54:51,982 --> 00:54:53,718 to 3310 00:54:53,718 --> 00:54:54,118 recalculate 3311 00:54:54,118 --> 00:54:54,419 our 3312 00:54:54,419 --> 00:54:56,419 fair 3313 00:54:56,487 --> 00:54:57,755 revenue target and we 3314 00:54:57,755 --> 00:54:58,489 are going 3315 00:54:58,489 --> 00:54:58,790 to present that or 3316 00:54:58,790 --> 00:54:59,190 we'd like to 3317 00:54:59,190 --> 00:55:01,920 have that 3318 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:02,460 . On the 3319 00:55:02,460 --> 00:55:02,793 consent 3320 00:55:02,793 --> 00:55:03,194 agenda 3321 00:55:03,194 --> 00:55:04,695 on 3322 00:55:04,695 --> 00:55:05,296 September 14th, so do 3323 00:55:05,296 --> 00:55:06,898 we have a motion to 3324 00:55:06,898 --> 00:55:07,432 do that? I 3325 00:55:07,432 --> 00:55:07,899 would also make 3326 00:55:07,899 --> 00:55:09,899 a resolution 3327 00:55:09,968 --> 00:55:11,102 for recalculation of 3328 00:55:11,102 --> 00:55:11,769 fares 3329 00:55:11,769 --> 00:55:14,239 based on the court order 3330 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:14,773 . I'll 3331 00:55:14,773 --> 00:55:16,174 second that being 3332 00:55:16,174 --> 00:55:16,875 placed on the 3333 00:55:16,875 --> 00:55:18,510 consent agenda that day 3334 00:55:18,510 --> 00:55:19,210 . Any 3335 00:55:19,210 --> 00:55:20,745 more discussion on that 3336 00:55:20,745 --> 00:55:21,345 ? We 3337 00:55:21,345 --> 00:55:22,781 want to make sure we 3338 00:55:22,781 --> 00:55:23,415 take the 3339 00:55:23,415 --> 00:55:24,883 information gathered 3340 00:55:24,883 --> 00:55:25,650 today in 3341 00:55:25,650 --> 00:55:26,117 uh go back and look at some of 3342 00:55:26,117 --> 00:55:27,419 those things 3343 00:55:27,419 --> 00:55:27,985 to do some 3344 00:55:27,985 --> 00:55:28,520 adjustments, so I really 3345 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:29,621 appreciate all the 3346 00:55:29,621 --> 00:55:29,921 comments we 3347 00:55:29,921 --> 00:55:30,387 have 3348 00:55:30,387 --> 00:55:32,387 , and that's 3349 00:55:32,457 --> 00:55:32,617 why 3350 00:55:32,617 --> 00:55:33,224 we're 3351 00:55:33,224 --> 00:55:33,892 waiting till the 3352 00:55:33,892 --> 00:55:34,526 14th on 3353 00:55:34,526 --> 00:55:34,825 consent agenda to deal with 3354 00:55:34,825 --> 00:55:36,261 that 3355 00:55:36,261 --> 00:55:36,728 . Just 3356 00:55:36,728 --> 00:55:38,297 a quick question 3357 00:55:38,297 --> 00:55:38,997 . 3358 00:55:38,997 --> 00:55:39,698 Now that you're attorney has 3359 00:55:39,698 --> 00:55:40,665 filed the thing to go to 3360 00:55:40,665 --> 00:55:41,433 the 3361 00:55:41,433 --> 00:55:43,833 appellate court with this 3362 00:55:43,868 --> 00:55:44,503 . I 3363 00:55:44,503 --> 00:55:45,300 that stop you from 3364 00:55:45,300 --> 00:55:45,437 doing what 3365 00:55:45,437 --> 00:55:45,904 you're doing 3366 00:55:45,904 --> 00:55:47,339 ? We 3367 00:55:47,339 --> 00:55:47,906 are moving 3368 00:55:47,906 --> 00:55:48,306 forward. This is what the 3369 00:55:48,306 --> 00:55:50,800 motion is 3370 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:50,575 here. Any more 3371 00:55:50,575 --> 00:55:52,575 discussion on that 3372 00:55:52,811 --> 00:55:54,811 . All those 3373 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,581 in favor of putting that on the 3374 00:55:56,581 --> 00:55:56,815 consent agenda 3375 00:55:56,815 --> 00:55:57,382 for 3376 00:55:57,382 --> 00:55:59,840 SEPTEMBER 3377 00:55:59,840 --> 00:55:59,451 14th signified by saying aye 3378 00:55:59,451 --> 00:56:00,953 aye aye 3379 00:56:00,953 --> 00:56:01,286 , all 3380 00:56:01,286 --> 00:56:01,620 opposed, motion 3381 00:56:01,620 --> 00:56:03,620 passes 3382 00:56:04,890 --> 00:56:04,388 . Anything else at this 3383 00:56:04,388 --> 00:56:06,325 time 3384 00:56:06,325 --> 00:56:07,659 ? So with that 3385 00:56:07,659 --> 00:56:08,227 we are going 3386 00:56:08,227 --> 00:56:08,894 to adjourn for a couple of 3387 00:56:08,894 --> 00:56:10,620 minutes. We'll be back 3388 00:56:10,620 --> 00:56:10,729 at 11:30 3389 00:56:10,729 --> 00:56:13,129 for consent. Thank you 3390 00:58:19,651 --> 00:58:20,252 Good morning. I call this 3391 00:58:20,252 --> 00:58:20,886 session schedule kind of 3392 00:58:20,886 --> 00:58:21,357 commission to order. It 3393 00:58:21,357 --> 00:58:21,620 is 3394 00:58:21,620 --> 00:58:22,688 AUGUST 31 3395 00:58:22,688 --> 00:58:22,888 , 2026, we 3396 00:58:22,888 --> 00:58:23,188 are here 3397 00:58:23,188 --> 00:58:23,388 for 3398 00:58:23,388 --> 00:58:24,957 our 3399 00:58:24,957 --> 00:58:25,424 consent 3400 00:58:25,424 --> 00:58:26,658 agenda items 3401 00:58:26,658 --> 00:58:27,459 , 3402 00:58:27,459 --> 00:58:27,960 and we have a couple that have 3403 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,228 been polled 3404 00:58:29,228 --> 00:58:29,561 already, so 3405 00:58:29,561 --> 00:58:29,862 number 3406 00:58:29,862 --> 00:58:30,194 18 was 3407 00:58:30,194 --> 00:58:31,429 pulled 3408 00:58:31,429 --> 00:58:31,663 , which 3409 00:58:31,663 --> 00:58:32,264 was a 3410 00:58:32,264 --> 00:58:33,666 personal service 3411 00:58:33,666 --> 00:58:34,466 agreement with 3412 00:58:34,466 --> 00:58:34,900 Chinook Enterprise. They have 3413 00:58:34,900 --> 00:58:36,680 to do some 3414 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:36,735 more work on that to 3415 00:58:36,735 --> 00:58:39,735 get it to come forward 3416 00:58:40,439 --> 00:58:40,873 . 18 that 3417 00:58:40,873 --> 00:58:42,608 got pulled 3418 00:58:42,608 --> 00:58:43,142 . 18, yep 3419 00:58:43,142 --> 00:58:43,409 . That 3420 00:58:43,409 --> 00:58:45,110 makes 3421 00:58:45,110 --> 00:58:45,511 sense 3422 00:58:45,511 --> 00:58:45,978 , like 3423 00:58:45,978 --> 00:58:47,713 the construction 3424 00:58:47,713 --> 00:58:49,713 contract agreement 3425 00:58:49,849 --> 00:58:51,584 . Tree works 3426 00:58:51,584 --> 00:58:52,170 . 3427 00:58:52,170 --> 00:58:52,651 Is under 3428 00:58:52,651 --> 00:58:53,786 public works 3429 00:58:53,786 --> 00:58:54,186 . Yeah 3430 00:58:54,186 --> 00:58:54,753 , 3431 00:58:54,753 --> 00:58:57,153 The tree works fine 3432 00:58:59,258 --> 00:59:00,993 . The 3433 00:59:00,993 --> 00:59:01,694 railroad bridge debris Chinook 3434 00:59:01,694 --> 00:59:02,995 was moved to miscellaneous 3435 00:59:02,995 --> 00:59:03,563 agenda and 3436 00:59:03,563 --> 00:59:04,290 uh, the tree works 3437 00:59:04,290 --> 00:59:05,164 one was just 3438 00:59:05,164 --> 00:59:05,698 pulled because 3439 00:59:05,698 --> 00:59:06,132 that one was the one that 3440 00:59:06,132 --> 00:59:08,132 lacked. Yeah 3441 00:59:08,334 --> 00:59:08,633 Commissioner Burns 3442 00:59:08,633 --> 00:59:10,690 do 3443 00:59:10,690 --> 00:59:10,670 you have any other ones to, 3444 00:59:10,670 --> 00:59:12,204 uh, I want to make 3445 00:59:12,204 --> 00:59:12,705 a motion to 3446 00:59:12,705 --> 00:59:14,106 close public 3447 00:59:14,106 --> 00:59:14,407 hearing 3448 00:59:14,407 --> 00:59:15,108 for 3449 00:59:15,108 --> 00:59:16,843 previously televised hearing 3450 00:59:16,843 --> 00:59:17,143 . 3451 00:59:17,143 --> 00:59:18,611 The 3452 00:59:18,611 --> 00:59:19,780 motion 3453 00:59:19,780 --> 00:59:19,545 approved. I second. 3454 00:59:19,545 --> 00:59:20,980 It was moved a 3455 00:59:20,980 --> 00:59:21,547 2nd 3456 00:59:21,547 --> 00:59:22,150 to 3457 00:59:22,150 --> 00:59:22,882 close 3458 00:59:22,882 --> 00:59:23,349 the 3459 00:59:23,349 --> 00:59:23,583 public hearing 3460 00:59:23,583 --> 00:59:23,850 we 3461 00:59:23,850 --> 00:59:24,117 had 3462 00:59:24,117 --> 00:59:25,251 earlier 3463 00:59:25,251 --> 00:59:25,885 , 3464 00:59:25,885 --> 00:59:26,118 we forgot to close it 3465 00:59:26,118 --> 00:59:26,586 , so any 3466 00:59:26,586 --> 00:59:27,587 more discussion 3467 00:59:27,587 --> 00:59:29,587 on that 3468 00:59:29,889 --> 00:59:30,256 ? Polo's 3469 00:59:30,256 --> 00:59:30,690 in favor 3470 00:59:30,690 --> 00:59:32,250 , say aye. Aye 3471 00:59:32,250 --> 00:59:32,458 . All 3472 00:59:32,458 --> 00:59:32,892 those opposed 3473 00:59:32,892 --> 00:59:33,293 ? Motion passes. 3474 00:59:33,293 --> 00:59:35,610 Thank you 3475 00:59:35,610 --> 00:59:35,428 . Now the 3476 00:59:35,428 --> 00:59:37,263 consent 3477 00:59:37,263 --> 00:59:39,650 agenda items 3478 00:59:39,650 --> 00:59:39,432 . Mr 3479 00:59:39,432 --> 00:59:40,166 . Burns, do you 3480 00:59:40,166 --> 00:59:41,534 have anything you wanna talk 3481 00:59:41,534 --> 00:59:41,901 about? I've got a 3482 00:59:41,901 --> 00:59:43,136 few here 3483 00:59:43,136 --> 00:59:43,635 . 3484 00:59:43,635 --> 00:59:45,635 Let's look at 3485 00:59:45,772 --> 00:59:46,506 , uh, number 10 3486 00:59:46,506 --> 00:59:47,907 under Parks and Rec 3487 00:59:47,907 --> 00:59:48,641 . This 3488 00:59:48,641 --> 00:59:48,875 contract for Hilt Creek Park, 3489 00:59:48,875 --> 00:59:50,310 um 3490 00:59:50,310 --> 00:59:51,110 , I 3491 00:59:51,110 --> 00:59:51,444 should say it is for Hill 3492 00:59:51,444 --> 00:59:52,579 Creek Park 3493 00:59:52,579 --> 00:59:52,846 and 3494 00:59:52,846 --> 00:59:53,380 will include 3495 00:59:53,380 --> 00:59:54,614 construction of a 3496 00:59:54,614 --> 00:59:54,913 gravel access 3497 00:59:54,913 --> 00:59:55,415 road 3498 00:59:55,415 --> 00:59:57,840 , parking 3499 00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:57,950 , uh, concrete pad 3500 00:59:57,950 --> 00:59:59,719 and stormwater system 3501 00:59:59,719 --> 01:00:00,287 improvements. I'm happy to see 3502 01:00:00,287 --> 01:00:01,353 this moving forward 3503 01:00:01,353 --> 01:00:01,654 . He 3504 01:00:01,654 --> 01:00:02,522 creates 3505 01:00:02,522 --> 01:00:04,157 a beautiful location, so I'm 3506 01:00:04,157 --> 01:00:04,925 glad the public will get to 3507 01:00:04,925 --> 01:00:06,260 enjoy that once 3508 01:00:06,260 --> 01:00:06,259 we get 3509 01:00:06,259 --> 01:00:06,659 those 3510 01:00:06,659 --> 01:00:08,659 installed 3511 01:00:08,662 --> 01:00:09,229 . You look down at 3512 01:00:09,229 --> 01:00:10,330 number 3513 01:00:10,330 --> 01:00:10,864 14 3514 01:00:10,864 --> 01:00:11,298 under public health. 3515 01:00:11,298 --> 01:00:12,599 Um, this is 3516 01:00:12,599 --> 01:00:12,966 a 3517 01:00:12,966 --> 01:00:13,567 sub recipient 3518 01:00:13,567 --> 01:00:14,901 agreement between the 3519 01:00:14,901 --> 01:00:15,569 county 3520 01:00:15,569 --> 01:00:15,836 and Catholic Community Services 3521 01:00:15,836 --> 01:00:17,504 of 3522 01:00:17,504 --> 01:00:17,904 Western Washington that will 3523 01:00:17,904 --> 01:00:19,904 provide 3524 01:00:22,442 --> 01:00:22,776 $152,608 for um these 3525 01:00:22,776 --> 01:00:23,810 funds 3526 01:00:23,810 --> 01:00:24,745 are 3527 01:00:24,745 --> 01:00:26,847 from the, these are 3528 01:00:26,847 --> 01:00:27,214 federal funds that were granted 3529 01:00:27,214 --> 01:00:28,615 through 3530 01:00:28,615 --> 01:00:29,116 the 3531 01:00:29,116 --> 01:00:29,850 state and the 3532 01:00:29,850 --> 01:00:30,584 substance abuse prevention 3533 01:00:30,584 --> 01:00:31,510 , 3534 01:00:31,510 --> 01:00:31,385 treatment and 3535 01:00:31,385 --> 01:00:31,718 recovery service 3536 01:00:31,718 --> 01:00:33,120 block 3537 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:33,353 grant, and these are 3538 01:00:33,353 --> 01:00:34,540 not 3539 01:00:34,540 --> 01:00:35,489 county funds. I'd like to 3540 01:00:35,489 --> 01:00:36,223 point 3541 01:00:36,223 --> 01:00:36,523 out when we do something like 3542 01:00:36,523 --> 01:00:37,558 this 3543 01:00:37,558 --> 01:00:38,358 where we're basically 3544 01:00:38,358 --> 01:00:39,593 doing a Pass through to 3545 01:00:39,593 --> 01:00:40,561 help 3546 01:00:40,561 --> 01:00:42,162 local agencies get funds to 3547 01:00:42,162 --> 01:00:42,663 help the community 3548 01:00:42,663 --> 01:00:42,930 . And 3549 01:00:42,930 --> 01:00:44,798 then 3550 01:00:44,798 --> 01:00:45,132 number 17, funding agreement 3551 01:00:45,132 --> 01:00:46,500 with New 3552 01:00:46,500 --> 01:00:46,833 Earth 3553 01:00:46,833 --> 01:00:47,468 Recovery. This 3554 01:00:47,468 --> 01:00:48,769 agreement will spend a 3555 01:00:48,769 --> 01:00:49,235 maximum 3556 01:00:49,235 --> 01:00:51,235 of 3557 01:00:51,438 --> 01:00:52,139 $610,000 of opioid 3558 01:00:52,139 --> 01:00:52,505 settlement dollars to help 3559 01:00:52,505 --> 01:00:53,607 purchase 3560 01:00:53,607 --> 01:00:54,375 the property and 3561 01:00:54,375 --> 01:00:55,976 retain the nine bed facility 3562 01:00:55,976 --> 01:00:56,176 New Earth Recovery 3563 01:00:56,176 --> 01:00:57,578 is 3564 01:00:57,578 --> 01:00:57,945 currently 3565 01:00:57,945 --> 01:00:58,478 operating 3566 01:00:58,478 --> 01:00:59,880 . I 3567 01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:00,281 believe that's all 3568 01:01:00,281 --> 01:01:00,781 I have to 3569 01:01:00,781 --> 01:01:02,183 stumble 3570 01:01:02,183 --> 01:01:02,783 through. 3571 01:01:02,783 --> 01:01:03,350 Commissioner Browning, do you 3572 01:01:03,350 --> 01:01:04,718 have any comments 3573 01:01:04,718 --> 01:01:04,885 ? Yeah 3574 01:01:04,885 --> 01:01:05,286 , um, 3575 01:01:05,286 --> 01:01:06,520 number 6 is 3576 01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:06,988 a 3577 01:01:06,988 --> 01:01:07,621 personal service 3578 01:01:07,621 --> 01:01:07,922 agreement with Kern's Funeral 3579 01:01:07,922 --> 01:01:09,356 Home 3580 01:01:09,356 --> 01:01:09,516 , and they will fill 3581 01:01:09,516 --> 01:01:09,824 in 3582 01:01:09,824 --> 01:01:11,425 when the 3583 01:01:11,425 --> 01:01:11,792 , when we're short on 3584 01:01:11,792 --> 01:01:13,527 time with 3585 01:01:13,527 --> 01:01:13,728 our coroner to 3586 01:01:13,728 --> 01:01:13,893 go 3587 01:01:13,893 --> 01:01:14,429 to 3588 01:01:14,429 --> 01:01:15,696 a site of a death 3589 01:01:15,696 --> 01:01:15,963 . They can do 3590 01:01:15,963 --> 01:01:16,564 a 3591 01:01:16,564 --> 01:01:18,650 death scene 3592 01:01:18,650 --> 01:01:18,733 investigation and 3593 01:01:18,733 --> 01:01:19,100 if there's any concerns, 3594 01:01:19,100 --> 01:01:20,568 there's 3595 01:01:20,568 --> 01:01:20,868 also our 3596 01:01:20,868 --> 01:01:21,340 police 3597 01:01:21,340 --> 01:01:21,369 or 3598 01:01:21,369 --> 01:01:22,570 sheriff's 3599 01:01:22,570 --> 01:01:23,171 department is there 3600 01:01:23,171 --> 01:01:23,738 so they can support it. They 3601 01:01:23,738 --> 01:01:24,639 can come up with 3602 01:01:24,639 --> 01:01:24,906 a 3603 01:01:24,906 --> 01:01:25,640 very 3604 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,640 accurate death 3605 01:01:27,741 --> 01:01:29,741 our coroner. Um 3606 01:01:29,777 --> 01:01:30,244 number 8, I justo point 3607 01:01:30,244 --> 01:01:31,345 out Josh 3608 01:01:31,345 --> 01:01:31,646 , who 3609 01:01:31,646 --> 01:01:31,913 runs 3610 01:01:31,913 --> 01:01:32,380 our 3611 01:01:32,380 --> 01:01:33,681 emergency 3612 01:01:33,681 --> 01:01:34,480 medical services 3613 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:34,682 . 3614 01:01:34,682 --> 01:01:35,783 He's become very, very 3615 01:01:35,783 --> 01:01:36,184 well 3616 01:01:36,184 --> 01:01:36,551 known 3617 01:01:36,551 --> 01:01:36,817 for 3618 01:01:36,817 --> 01:01:38,753 his 3619 01:01:38,753 --> 01:01:38,912 training 3620 01:01:38,912 --> 01:01:39,420 and 3621 01:01:39,420 --> 01:01:39,821 education program and he's 3622 01:01:39,821 --> 01:01:40,488 going to 3623 01:01:40,488 --> 01:01:40,955 do 3624 01:01:40,955 --> 01:01:41,355 training and 3625 01:01:41,355 --> 01:01:42,690 tracking 3626 01:01:42,690 --> 01:01:43,291 software. Mostly I 3627 01:01:43,291 --> 01:01:43,758 just I want to have people 3628 01:01:43,758 --> 01:01:44,859 realize he's 3629 01:01:44,859 --> 01:01:45,259 been 3630 01:01:45,259 --> 01:01:45,993 so good about 3631 01:01:45,993 --> 01:01:48,960 making sure that we are the 3632 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:49,564 best trained 3633 01:01:49,564 --> 01:01:50,298 emergency medical 3634 01:01:50,298 --> 01:01:52,000 system around 3635 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:52,700 , um, number 9, 3636 01:01:52,700 --> 01:01:53,968 the, the discussion 3637 01:01:53,968 --> 01:01:54,169 of 3638 01:01:54,169 --> 01:01:54,969 the 3639 01:01:54,969 --> 01:01:55,970 official change of the big 3640 01:01:55,970 --> 01:01:56,304 rock 3641 01:01:56,304 --> 01:01:56,805 to 3642 01:01:56,805 --> 01:01:57,138 Yadwassa Park, and, and 3643 01:01:57,138 --> 01:01:58,907 that's 3644 01:01:58,907 --> 01:01:59,140 . Going to be uh I 3645 01:01:59,140 --> 01:01:59,406 think 3646 01:01:59,406 --> 01:02:00,508 good 3647 01:02:00,508 --> 01:02:01,109 for the 3648 01:02:01,109 --> 01:02:01,576 upper scadget will 3649 01:02:01,576 --> 01:02:02,844 appreciate it 3650 01:02:02,844 --> 01:02:03,140 . That's the 3651 01:02:03,140 --> 01:02:03,578 , the 3652 01:02:03,578 --> 01:02:03,945 word, the name they chose. 3653 01:02:03,945 --> 01:02:05,413 That's a 3654 01:02:05,413 --> 01:02:05,880 public hearing on that 3655 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,349 So the public 3656 01:02:07,349 --> 01:02:07,549 hearing on 3657 01:02:07,549 --> 01:02:07,983 the 3658 01:02:07,983 --> 01:02:08,216 naming will 3659 01:02:08,216 --> 01:02:09,684 be 3660 01:02:09,684 --> 01:02:10,151 OCTOBER 12th. 3661 01:02:10,151 --> 01:02:12,151 Yep, thank you 3662 01:02:12,153 --> 01:02:12,520 . And then 3663 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:12,888 , uh, 3664 01:02:12,888 --> 01:02:13,989 finally 3665 01:02:13,989 --> 01:02:14,489 the 3666 01:02:14,489 --> 01:02:14,856 administrative 3667 01:02:14,856 --> 01:02:16,856 Services 3668 01:02:17,125 --> 01:02:17,592 , Purchase and sale 3669 01:02:17,592 --> 01:02:18,727 agreement with 3670 01:02:18,727 --> 01:02:19,494 the Swinish for 3671 01:02:19,494 --> 01:02:19,828 the purchase of property, and 3672 01:02:19,828 --> 01:02:21,229 we're 3673 01:02:21,229 --> 01:02:21,897 going to talk about that 3674 01:02:21,897 --> 01:02:23,310 today, and that's the 3675 01:02:23,310 --> 01:02:23,632 most 3676 01:02:23,632 --> 01:02:24,232 exciting part we've had going 3677 01:02:24,232 --> 01:02:25,266 on in a while. 00, wait 3678 01:02:25,266 --> 01:02:26,100 , 3679 01:02:26,100 --> 01:02:26,161 there's an agreement with 3680 01:02:26,161 --> 01:02:26,601 the 3681 01:02:26,601 --> 01:02:27,536 State Department 3682 01:02:27,536 --> 01:02:27,803 of 3683 01:02:27,803 --> 01:02:28,103 Health to 3684 01:02:28,103 --> 01:02:28,570 give 3685 01:02:28,570 --> 01:02:30,205 us 3686 01:02:30,205 --> 01:02:30,572 $172,000 more for our 3687 01:02:30,572 --> 01:02:30,973 public 3688 01:02:30,973 --> 01:02:32,207 health 3689 01:02:32,207 --> 01:02:32,873 department to 3690 01:02:32,873 --> 01:02:33,208 make up for some of the losses 3691 01:02:33,208 --> 01:02:34,543 of the 3692 01:02:34,543 --> 01:02:34,843 money that was pulled 3693 01:02:34,843 --> 01:02:36,843 away 3694 01:02:37,312 --> 01:02:38,847 . Very good 3695 01:02:38,847 --> 01:02:39,281 , thank 3696 01:02:39,281 --> 01:02:41,281 you, um 3697 01:02:41,350 --> 01:02:42,500 . 3698 01:02:42,500 --> 01:02:43,952 Emergency management 7, I 3699 01:02:43,952 --> 01:02:44,110 really appreciate the work 3700 01:02:44,110 --> 01:02:44,586 that 3701 01:02:44,586 --> 01:02:46,321 they will do 3702 01:02:46,321 --> 01:02:46,622 over there 3703 01:02:46,622 --> 01:02:48,323 to get 3704 01:02:48,323 --> 01:02:48,824 the different funds available. 3705 01:02:48,824 --> 01:02:50,259 Um, we're getting 3706 01:02:50,259 --> 01:02:51,260 , um, some 3707 01:02:51,260 --> 01:02:53,280 funds from the Washington State 3708 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:54,595 Military Department, and 3709 01:02:54,595 --> 01:02:54,755 the 3710 01:02:54,755 --> 01:02:55,431 us 3711 01:02:55,431 --> 01:02:55,764 Department of Homeland Security 3712 01:02:55,764 --> 01:02:57,320 we're 3713 01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:57,499 getting 3714 01:02:57,499 --> 01:02:57,733 about 3715 01:02:57,733 --> 01:02:58,133 $62,000 to 3716 01:02:58,133 --> 01:02:59,434 help some 3717 01:02:59,434 --> 01:03:00,169 of the programs we 3718 01:03:00,169 --> 01:03:03,339 have going on in the county 3719 01:03:03,339 --> 01:03:03,638 . 3720 01:03:03,638 --> 01:03:05,638 And 3721 01:03:06,508 --> 01:03:08,410 Number 3722 01:03:08,410 --> 01:03:10,410 . Mm 3723 01:03:13,715 --> 01:03:15,217 22 3724 01:03:15,217 --> 01:03:15,619 . Tom was 3725 01:03:15,619 --> 01:03:16,850 going to 3726 01:03:16,850 --> 01:03:16,886 talk about that 3727 01:03:16,886 --> 01:03:17,586 , so 3728 01:03:17,586 --> 01:03:19,555 you need to go to a mic 3729 01:03:19,555 --> 01:03:20,890 . Um 3730 01:03:20,890 --> 01:03:20,689 , 3731 01:03:20,689 --> 01:03:21,424 resolution authorized 3732 01:03:21,424 --> 01:03:22,258 the 3733 01:03:22,258 --> 01:03:22,591 closure of a portion of 3734 01:03:22,591 --> 01:03:23,960 Collins 3735 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:25,960 Road 3736 01:03:27,290 --> 01:03:28,230 , number 63,310 at 3737 01:03:28,230 --> 01:03:28,698 the 3738 01:03:28,698 --> 01:03:29,532 railroad 3739 01:03:29,532 --> 01:03:30,933 grade crossing 3740 01:03:30,933 --> 01:03:31,701 , um, to 3741 01:03:31,701 --> 01:03:32,935 all through traffic 3742 01:03:32,935 --> 01:03:33,135 to 3743 01:03:33,135 --> 01:03:33,903 allow 3744 01:03:33,903 --> 01:03:35,370 certain county road work to 3745 01:03:35,370 --> 01:03:35,571 be 3746 01:03:35,571 --> 01:03:36,500 completed and 3747 01:03:36,500 --> 01:03:37,607 disclosure 3748 01:03:37,607 --> 01:03:38,307 will 3749 01:03:38,307 --> 01:03:40,900 commence on or about 3750 01:03:40,900 --> 01:03:40,409 OCTOBER 3751 01:03:40,409 --> 01:03:40,810 12th and 3752 01:03:40,810 --> 01:03:42,440 or dates 3753 01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:42,278 to 3754 01:03:42,278 --> 01:03:42,878 be 3755 01:03:42,878 --> 01:03:44,580 determined shall be 3756 01:03:44,580 --> 01:03:45,214 . Until the 3757 01:03:45,214 --> 01:03:46,449 commissioners open it 3758 01:03:46,449 --> 01:03:47,830 , so Tom, 3759 01:03:47,830 --> 01:03:47,617 what are you doing out there? 3760 01:03:47,617 --> 01:03:49,152 On Collins Road 3761 01:03:49,152 --> 01:03:49,485 . Good 3762 01:03:49,485 --> 01:03:49,643 morning 3763 01:03:49,643 --> 01:03:50,530 , 3764 01:03:50,530 --> 01:03:51,200 Commissioner Tom 3765 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:51,421 Mueller County 3766 01:03:51,421 --> 01:03:51,688 Engineer. So 3767 01:03:51,688 --> 01:03:53,189 this 3768 01:03:53,189 --> 01:03:53,823 stretch of 3769 01:03:53,823 --> 01:03:54,324 Collins Road is on the west 3770 01:03:54,324 --> 01:03:55,692 side of Cedar 3771 01:03:55,692 --> 01:03:56,326 Wooley, and it's 3772 01:03:56,326 --> 01:03:57,694 been effectively closed 3773 01:03:57,694 --> 01:03:58,127 since 3774 01:03:58,127 --> 01:03:58,594 2001, where 3775 01:03:58,594 --> 01:04:00,430 , when 3776 01:04:00,430 --> 01:04:01,970 , um Washdot 3777 01:04:01,970 --> 01:04:02,232 directed us to close 3778 01:04:02,232 --> 01:04:02,465 that leg 3779 01:04:02,465 --> 01:04:03,198 of 3780 01:04:03,198 --> 01:04:04,400 the intersection so that we 3781 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:05,330 could 3782 01:04:05,330 --> 01:04:05,335 um reconstruct Cook 3783 01:04:05,335 --> 01:04:06,435 Road 3784 01:04:06,435 --> 01:04:06,770 . 3785 01:04:06,770 --> 01:04:07,300 Um, in 3786 01:04:07,300 --> 01:04:07,370 the 3787 01:04:07,370 --> 01:04:07,804 intervening years, 3788 01:04:07,804 --> 01:04:09,272 it's never 3789 01:04:09,272 --> 01:04:09,939 been opened, the 3790 01:04:09,939 --> 01:04:10,239 railroad crossing there has 3791 01:04:10,239 --> 01:04:11,307 been 3792 01:04:11,307 --> 01:04:11,641 blocked off with ecology 3793 01:04:11,641 --> 01:04:13,641 blocks 3794 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:14,377 . And wash that's going 3795 01:04:14,377 --> 01:04:15,845 to be 3796 01:04:15,845 --> 01:04:16,346 reconstructing their 3797 01:04:16,346 --> 01:04:16,980 roundabout through that 3798 01:04:16,980 --> 01:04:17,781 intersection here this 3799 01:04:17,781 --> 01:04:18,615 coming 3800 01:04:18,615 --> 01:04:19,182 summer, and there's going to be 3801 01:04:19,182 --> 01:04:20,350 no accommodations 3802 01:04:20,350 --> 01:04:21,500 for the south 3803 01:04:21,500 --> 01:04:21,484 leg of Collins Road going 3804 01:04:21,484 --> 01:04:22,552 overneath 3805 01:04:22,552 --> 01:04:22,953 the 3806 01:04:22,953 --> 01:04:23,653 railroad tracks, 3807 01:04:23,653 --> 01:04:23,920 going over the railroad tracks. 3808 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,254 So 3809 01:04:25,254 --> 01:04:25,555 , Just 3810 01:04:25,555 --> 01:04:27,560 as a 3811 01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:28,225 matter of um 3812 01:04:28,225 --> 01:04:29,826 Cleaning up, um 3813 01:04:29,826 --> 01:04:30,327 . Paperwork and 3814 01:04:30,327 --> 01:04:31,594 making sure that 3815 01:04:31,594 --> 01:04:32,129 this road 3816 01:04:32,129 --> 01:04:33,996 is 3817 01:04:33,996 --> 01:04:34,865 officially and definitely 3818 01:04:34,865 --> 01:04:36,299 closed. We wanted to to go 3819 01:04:36,299 --> 01:04:36,700 through 3820 01:04:36,700 --> 01:04:38,335 this 3821 01:04:38,335 --> 01:04:38,969 um exercise, and 3822 01:04:38,969 --> 01:04:39,202 in addition, washed out 3823 01:04:39,202 --> 01:04:40,937 is 3824 01:04:40,937 --> 01:04:41,371 seeking um about 1000 cubic 3825 01:04:41,371 --> 01:04:42,973 yards of 3826 01:04:42,973 --> 01:04:43,774 compensatory flood 3827 01:04:43,774 --> 01:04:45,842 storage, and so by removing 3828 01:04:45,842 --> 01:04:47,144 this roadway, they will be 3829 01:04:47,144 --> 01:04:47,476 able 3830 01:04:47,476 --> 01:04:47,945 to meet 3831 01:04:47,945 --> 01:04:48,211 their 3832 01:04:48,211 --> 01:04:48,645 environmental 3833 01:04:48,645 --> 01:04:49,580 requirements 3834 01:04:49,580 --> 01:04:49,879 for 3835 01:04:49,879 --> 01:04:50,547 the 3836 01:04:50,547 --> 01:04:51,514 roundabouts. Um, we're 3837 01:04:51,514 --> 01:04:52,182 still 3838 01:04:52,182 --> 01:04:52,449 working out the agreement with 3839 01:04:52,449 --> 01:04:54,184 them 3840 01:04:54,184 --> 01:04:54,717 for compensation for 3841 01:04:54,717 --> 01:04:56,553 removing that, um 3842 01:04:56,553 --> 01:04:57,322 . Stretch of 3843 01:04:57,322 --> 01:04:58,388 roadway, but uh this is 3844 01:04:58,388 --> 01:04:58,856 the 3845 01:04:58,856 --> 01:04:59,256 first step in 3846 01:04:59,256 --> 01:05:00,657 , in 3847 01:05:00,657 --> 01:05:01,492 , uh, going 3848 01:05:01,492 --> 01:05:02,926 that direction, so that is 3849 01:05:02,926 --> 01:05:03,694 why 3850 01:05:03,694 --> 01:05:04,940 I'm proposing the indefinite 3851 01:05:04,940 --> 01:05:05,329 closure of 3852 01:05:05,329 --> 01:05:05,662 Collins 3853 01:05:05,662 --> 01:05:06,296 Road at the 3854 01:05:06,296 --> 01:05:07,131 railroad tracks and just 3855 01:05:07,131 --> 01:05:07,798 a 3856 01:05:07,798 --> 01:05:08,365 little bit south of that 3857 01:05:08,365 --> 01:05:10,334 . I 3858 01:05:10,334 --> 01:05:10,868 knew you weren't here back when 3859 01:05:10,868 --> 01:05:12,690 they did close it 3860 01:05:12,690 --> 01:05:12,635 , and there's 3861 01:05:12,635 --> 01:05:14,204 definitely a lot of 3862 01:05:14,204 --> 01:05:15,105 concern 3863 01:05:15,105 --> 01:05:16,974 about potential floods. How can 3864 01:05:16,974 --> 01:05:17,207 people evacuate and so 3865 01:05:17,207 --> 01:05:17,377 forth 3866 01:05:17,377 --> 01:05:17,741 . 3867 01:05:17,741 --> 01:05:18,842 Any comments 3868 01:05:18,842 --> 01:05:19,760 on 3869 01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:19,443 that 3870 01:05:19,443 --> 01:05:19,810 ? Certainly 3871 01:05:19,810 --> 01:05:20,911 so both 3872 01:05:20,911 --> 01:05:21,579 in 3873 01:05:21,579 --> 01:05:21,945 the 2021 flood event 3874 01:05:21,945 --> 01:05:23,247 and then 3875 01:05:23,247 --> 01:05:23,747 the 3876 01:05:23,747 --> 01:05:23,910 2025 flood event 3877 01:05:23,910 --> 01:05:24,381 , 3878 01:05:24,381 --> 01:05:25,615 uh, there was no 3879 01:05:25,615 --> 01:05:26,116 calls for 3880 01:05:26,116 --> 01:05:26,517 reopening that 3881 01:05:26,517 --> 01:05:28,180 road 3882 01:05:28,180 --> 01:05:28,318 and 3883 01:05:28,318 --> 01:05:29,854 from 3884 01:05:29,854 --> 01:05:30,521 um 3885 01:05:30,521 --> 01:05:31,122 bnsf's maintenance along that 3886 01:05:31,122 --> 01:05:32,490 corridor, there is 3887 01:05:32,490 --> 01:05:32,690 no 3888 01:05:32,690 --> 01:05:33,570 physical 3889 01:05:33,570 --> 01:05:33,424 way to 3890 01:05:33,424 --> 01:05:34,625 any more 3891 01:05:34,625 --> 01:05:34,992 cross that 3892 01:05:34,992 --> 01:05:36,992 crossing 3893 01:05:37,728 --> 01:05:38,620 . So they're going to 3894 01:05:38,620 --> 01:05:39,464 make 3895 01:05:39,464 --> 01:05:40,300 a 3896 01:05:40,300 --> 01:05:40,698 big ditch there, or I 3897 01:05:40,698 --> 01:05:41,232 mean, could people walk 3898 01:05:41,232 --> 01:05:41,866 across 3899 01:05:41,866 --> 01:05:42,233 if they wanted to, or is it 3900 01:05:42,233 --> 01:05:43,501 going to 3901 01:05:43,501 --> 01:05:43,901 be 3902 01:05:43,901 --> 01:05:44,234 in passable 3903 01:05:44,234 --> 01:05:45,803 for 3904 01:05:45,803 --> 01:05:46,436 humans 3905 01:05:46,436 --> 01:05:46,671 . It is going to 3906 01:05:46,671 --> 01:05:48,372 be 3907 01:05:48,372 --> 01:05:48,873 impassable. Ok 3908 01:05:48,873 --> 01:05:49,173 . I'm sure that 3909 01:05:49,173 --> 01:05:50,908 as 3910 01:05:50,908 --> 01:05:51,609 a pedestrian you could walk 3911 01:05:51,609 --> 01:05:52,577 across the tracks, but it 3912 01:05:52,577 --> 01:05:53,144 is 3913 01:05:53,144 --> 01:05:55,144 a 3914 01:05:55,279 --> 01:05:55,646 formal um roadway, it would 3915 01:05:55,646 --> 01:05:55,879 uh 3916 01:05:55,879 --> 01:05:57,382 be 3917 01:05:57,382 --> 01:05:57,542 indefinitely closed. Ok 3918 01:05:57,542 --> 01:05:58,150 , 3919 01:05:58,150 --> 01:05:59,450 thank you. Any 3920 01:05:59,450 --> 01:05:59,850 other questions, 3921 01:05:59,850 --> 01:06:01,850 Anton? No 3922 01:06:01,886 --> 01:06:02,453 . Any other questions 3923 01:06:02,453 --> 01:06:03,855 or anything else on 3924 01:06:03,855 --> 01:06:04,155 the consent 3925 01:06:04,155 --> 01:06:06,155 ? 3926 01:06:06,190 --> 01:06:06,391 So do I have 3927 01:06:06,391 --> 01:06:06,925 a 3928 01:06:06,925 --> 01:06:07,191 motion. I move 3929 01:06:07,191 --> 01:06:08,559 to 3930 01:06:08,559 --> 01:06:08,726 approve the consent 3931 01:06:08,726 --> 01:06:09,600 agenda 3932 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:10,695 items 1 3933 01:06:10,695 --> 01:06:11,290 through 17 3934 01:06:11,290 --> 01:06:11,463 and 19 3935 01:06:11,463 --> 01:06:12,964 through 22 3936 01:06:12,964 --> 01:06:13,765 , including all items 3937 01:06:13,765 --> 01:06:14,980 requiring ratification, 3938 01:06:14,980 --> 01:06:15,199 vouchers 3939 01:06:15,199 --> 01:06:15,533 and warrants for 3940 01:06:15,533 --> 01:06:15,867 Monday 3941 01:06:15,867 --> 01:06:17,101 , AUGUST 3942 01:06:17,101 --> 01:06:17,468 31st 3943 01:06:17,468 --> 01:06:17,969 , 2026 3944 01:06:17,969 --> 01:06:18,269 . I 3945 01:06:18,269 --> 01:06:19,604 second 3946 01:06:19,604 --> 01:06:20,171 that 3947 01:06:20,171 --> 01:06:20,805 motion. He's moved 3948 01:06:20,805 --> 01:06:21,973 a second to approve the 3949 01:06:21,973 --> 01:06:22,473 consent 3950 01:06:22,473 --> 01:06:24,409 agenda items 1 3951 01:06:24,409 --> 01:06:26,409 through 17 and 3952 01:06:27,212 --> 01:06:29,470 19 through 22, including all 3953 01:06:29,470 --> 01:06:29,514 items from ratification, 3954 01:06:29,514 --> 01:06:30,715 vouchers, and 3955 01:06:30,715 --> 01:06:31,249 warrants for 3956 01:06:31,249 --> 01:06:31,516 Monday, AUGUST 3957 01:06:31,516 --> 01:06:32,984 31st 3958 01:06:32,984 --> 01:06:33,317 , 2026 3959 01:06:33,317 --> 01:06:34,850 . Any 3960 01:06:34,850 --> 01:06:35,987 more discussion? All 3961 01:06:35,987 --> 01:06:36,654 those in 3962 01:06:36,654 --> 01:06:37,489 favor say aye. Aye 3963 01:06:37,489 --> 01:06:37,823 , all those 3964 01:06:37,823 --> 01:06:38,290 opposed 3965 01:06:38,290 --> 01:06:40,290 , motion passes 3966 01:06:40,357 --> 01:06:40,625 . Now, we 3967 01:06:40,625 --> 01:06:42,359 have 3968 01:06:42,359 --> 01:06:42,760 , a 3969 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,563 bunch 3970 01:06:44,563 --> 01:06:44,863 of miscellaneous, 3971 01:06:44,863 --> 01:06:46,364 let's 3972 01:06:46,364 --> 01:06:46,898 To 3973 01:06:46,898 --> 01:06:47,132 MR. Honey's 3974 01:06:47,132 --> 01:06:47,465 here ready 3975 01:06:47,465 --> 01:06:48,799 to go 3976 01:06:48,799 --> 01:06:49,340 . Let's 3977 01:06:49,340 --> 01:06:49,568 go 3978 01:06:49,568 --> 01:06:51,568 with number one 3979 01:06:51,937 --> 01:06:53,205 Real estate purchase 3980 01:06:53,205 --> 01:06:53,772 and sale 3981 01:06:53,772 --> 01:06:54,600 agreement with the 3982 01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:54,306 Squeamish 3983 01:06:54,306 --> 01:06:55,807 Indian 3984 01:06:55,807 --> 01:06:56,474 tribal community for the 3985 01:06:56,474 --> 01:06:58,210 purchase of real property 3986 01:06:58,210 --> 01:06:58,810 . As 3987 01:06:58,810 --> 01:07:00,120 Sasketch County 3988 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:01,130 parcel 3989 01:07:01,130 --> 01:07:03,130 numbers 3990 01:07:03,150 --> 01:07:05,150 p 116854 3991 01:07:06,217 --> 01:07:07,520 p 3992 01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,520 15448 3993 01:07:09,388 --> 01:07:09,688 p 3994 01:07:09,688 --> 01:07:11,688 15501 and 3995 01:07:11,923 --> 01:07:12,323 p 3996 01:07:12,323 --> 01:07:13,425 15534 3997 01:07:13,425 --> 01:07:14,493 and 3998 01:07:14,493 --> 01:07:16,493 p 15,490 3999 01:07:18,797 --> 01:07:18,952 . Ok 4000 01:07:18,952 --> 01:07:19,198 , go 4001 01:07:19,198 --> 01:07:20,366 ahead 4002 01:07:20,366 --> 01:07:21,330 . Good Morning, 4003 01:07:21,330 --> 01:07:22,468 commissioners. Will Honey 4004 01:07:22,468 --> 01:07:23,235 , 4005 01:07:23,235 --> 01:07:25,400 prosecuting attorney's office 4006 01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:25,404 . 4007 01:07:25,404 --> 01:07:25,704 Um, so 4008 01:07:25,704 --> 01:07:27,720 this is 4009 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:27,473 , of course, a 4010 01:07:27,473 --> 01:07:27,740 purchase and 4011 01:07:27,740 --> 01:07:27,940 sale 4012 01:07:27,940 --> 01:07:28,340 agreement 4013 01:07:28,340 --> 01:07:29,808 between 4014 01:07:29,808 --> 01:07:30,309 the county and the 4015 01:07:30,309 --> 01:07:31,610 Sunomish tribe 4016 01:07:31,610 --> 01:07:32,211 , and 4017 01:07:32,211 --> 01:07:32,511 it involves 4018 01:07:32,511 --> 01:07:34,180 the 4019 01:07:34,180 --> 01:07:36,150 county selling uh 4020 01:07:36,150 --> 01:07:36,200 Um 4021 01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:36,515 , 4022 01:07:36,515 --> 01:07:37,149 Fishtown and 4023 01:07:37,149 --> 01:07:38,717 Pleasant Ridge 4024 01:07:38,717 --> 01:07:39,318 , uh 4025 01:07:39,318 --> 01:07:40,519 properties, we don't 4026 01:07:40,519 --> 01:07:41,387 own those 4027 01:07:41,387 --> 01:07:43,389 yet. So what this is, is 4028 01:07:43,389 --> 01:07:43,856 , um, 4029 01:07:43,856 --> 01:07:45,124 an agreement to 4030 01:07:45,124 --> 01:07:45,957 lay 4031 01:07:45,957 --> 01:07:47,360 in place 4032 01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:47,960 , 4033 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:48,327 the framework for so 4034 01:07:48,327 --> 01:07:49,829 that when 4035 01:07:49,829 --> 01:07:50,620 we close on 4036 01:07:50,620 --> 01:07:50,529 the 4037 01:07:50,529 --> 01:07:52,264 Haller property 4038 01:07:52,264 --> 01:07:52,631 we have a 4039 01:07:52,631 --> 01:07:53,990 full 4040 01:07:53,990 --> 01:07:54,333 agreements with 4041 01:07:54,333 --> 01:07:55,167 money 4042 01:07:55,167 --> 01:07:56,269 in escrow, so that 4043 01:07:56,269 --> 01:07:56,434 we 4044 01:07:56,434 --> 01:07:57,236 can 4045 01:07:57,236 --> 01:07:59,305 transfer the various pieces of 4046 01:07:59,305 --> 01:07:59,771 the property, uh, to the 4047 01:07:59,771 --> 01:08:01,139 parties that 4048 01:08:01,139 --> 01:08:01,941 are supposed to 4049 01:08:01,941 --> 01:08:03,420 get them, and of course, you 4050 01:08:03,420 --> 01:08:03,809 know 4051 01:08:03,809 --> 01:08:04,143 , www is ending up with the 4052 01:08:04,143 --> 01:08:06,143 habitat 4053 01:08:06,612 --> 01:08:07,847 . Swisher ending up with 4054 01:08:07,847 --> 01:08:08,800 the Uplands, and 4055 01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:08,815 we are 4056 01:08:08,815 --> 01:08:09,716 reselling. What I wanted to 4057 01:08:09,716 --> 01:08:10,116 do 4058 01:08:10,116 --> 01:08:10,583 is just 4059 01:08:10,583 --> 01:08:10,883 for 4060 01:08:10,883 --> 01:08:12,118 folks in 4061 01:08:12,118 --> 01:08:12,819 the 4062 01:08:12,819 --> 01:08:13,186 audience, and they might be 4063 01:08:13,186 --> 01:08:14,187 watching 4064 01:08:14,187 --> 01:08:14,654 this 4065 01:08:14,654 --> 01:08:15,355 to just not take 4066 01:08:15,355 --> 01:08:15,621 a lot of time, but a little bit 4067 01:08:15,621 --> 01:08:16,823 of 4068 01:08:16,823 --> 01:08:17,189 high level as 4069 01:08:17,189 --> 01:08:17,857 to what we're 4070 01:08:17,857 --> 01:08:18,624 doing here and why we're 4071 01:08:18,624 --> 01:08:18,858 doing 4072 01:08:18,858 --> 01:08:19,826 it 4073 01:08:19,826 --> 01:08:21,294 . Um, so 4074 01:08:21,294 --> 01:08:22,195 what we're looking 4075 01:08:22,195 --> 01:08:23,620 at here with this overview map 4076 01:08:23,620 --> 01:08:23,496 , 4077 01:08:23,496 --> 01:08:23,696 of course 4078 01:08:23,696 --> 01:08:24,130 , is 4079 01:08:24,130 --> 01:08:24,397 , here's LeConnor, 4080 01:08:24,397 --> 01:08:25,532 the 4081 01:08:25,532 --> 01:08:25,765 son 4082 01:08:25,765 --> 01:08:26,265 age 4083 01:08:26,265 --> 01:08:26,799 Channel, the 4084 01:08:26,799 --> 01:08:28,340 McGlynn jetty 4085 01:08:28,340 --> 01:08:28,334 , the North Fork 4086 01:08:28,334 --> 01:08:28,668 of the 4087 01:08:28,668 --> 01:08:30,203 Skagit 4088 01:08:30,203 --> 01:08:30,804 River, which 4089 01:08:30,804 --> 01:08:32,405 branches here and here 4090 01:08:32,405 --> 01:08:32,572 . Um 4091 01:08:32,572 --> 01:08:33,139 , Ika 4092 01:08:33,139 --> 01:08:35,139 Island, Goat Island 4093 01:08:35,308 --> 01:08:37,100 . Bald. This 4094 01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:37,844 is uh the 4095 01:08:37,844 --> 01:08:39,120 Fishtown area 4096 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:39,746 , um, 4097 01:08:39,746 --> 01:08:40,130 you know, this is the 4098 01:08:40,130 --> 01:08:40,279 Haller 4099 01:08:40,279 --> 01:08:42,148 farm 4100 01:08:42,148 --> 01:08:42,515 . It's uh been in 4101 01:08:42,515 --> 01:08:43,783 continuous 4102 01:08:43,783 --> 01:08:43,942 owner 4103 01:08:43,942 --> 01:08:44,518 since 4104 01:08:44,518 --> 01:08:46,190 ownership of the same 4105 01:08:46,190 --> 01:08:46,786 family 4106 01:08:46,786 --> 01:08:48,120 since prior to statehood 4107 01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:48,788 . This 4108 01:08:48,788 --> 01:08:51,240 red area within it 4109 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:51,187 . Is 4110 01:08:51,187 --> 01:08:51,458 the 4111 01:08:51,458 --> 01:08:52,692 number 4112 01:08:52,692 --> 01:08:53,260 one 4113 01:08:53,260 --> 01:08:53,393 sgadget 4114 01:08:53,393 --> 01:08:55,162 Chinook 4115 01:08:55,162 --> 01:08:55,762 recovery 4116 01:08:55,762 --> 01:08:57,630 estuary projects 4117 01:08:57,630 --> 01:08:57,464 , uh, 4118 01:08:57,464 --> 01:08:57,898 kind of in 4119 01:08:57,898 --> 01:08:59,466 the 4120 01:08:59,466 --> 01:09:00,267 portfolio that 4121 01:09:00,267 --> 01:09:01,568 identified by 4122 01:09:01,568 --> 01:09:01,768 the 4123 01:09:01,768 --> 01:09:02,335 Chinook 4124 01:09:02,335 --> 01:09:02,569 recovery Plan, the 4125 01:09:02,569 --> 01:09:03,870 2005 4126 01:09:03,870 --> 01:09:04,471 Chinook 4127 01:09:04,471 --> 01:09:04,627 recovery plan that was 4128 01:09:04,627 --> 01:09:05,710 put 4129 01:09:05,710 --> 01:09:06,606 together by the 4130 01:09:06,606 --> 01:09:06,873 tribe's wfw and 4131 01:09:06,873 --> 01:09:08,542 the 4132 01:09:08,542 --> 01:09:08,709 federal agencies 4133 01:09:08,709 --> 01:09:09,376 . Now I 4134 01:09:09,376 --> 01:09:10,677 think anybody who's 4135 01:09:10,677 --> 01:09:11,311 been around 4136 01:09:11,311 --> 01:09:11,645 the Skagit Valley for 4137 01:09:11,645 --> 01:09:11,912 the last 4138 01:09:11,912 --> 01:09:12,980 2 4139 01:09:12,980 --> 01:09:13,213 or 4140 01:09:13,213 --> 01:09:13,580 3 4141 01:09:13,580 --> 01:09:15,215 decades 4142 01:09:15,215 --> 01:09:16,490 , understands 4143 01:09:16,490 --> 01:09:17,851 that there's been a lot of 4144 01:09:17,851 --> 01:09:18,652 conflict 4145 01:09:18,652 --> 01:09:20,154 over um these projects 4146 01:09:20,154 --> 01:09:20,654 Not 4147 01:09:20,654 --> 01:09:22,220 moving 4148 01:09:22,220 --> 01:09:22,423 forward 4149 01:09:22,423 --> 01:09:23,122 other than 4150 01:09:23,122 --> 01:09:24,291 the projects on some 4151 01:09:24,291 --> 01:09:25,580 public 4152 01:09:25,580 --> 01:09:25,459 land that the state owns around 4153 01:09:25,459 --> 01:09:26,660 the mouth 4154 01:09:26,660 --> 01:09:28,595 of the South Fork 4155 01:09:28,595 --> 01:09:29,430 . Um 4156 01:09:29,430 --> 01:09:29,595 and that really has been 4157 01:09:29,595 --> 01:09:29,897 the 4158 01:09:29,897 --> 01:09:31,498 core of 4159 01:09:31,498 --> 01:09:32,967 You know 4160 01:09:32,967 --> 01:09:33,467 , the 4161 01:09:33,467 --> 01:09:33,834 challenges that 4162 01:09:33,834 --> 01:09:34,401 we've 4163 01:09:34,401 --> 01:09:36,303 experienced with 4164 01:09:36,303 --> 01:09:36,937 uh with tide 4165 01:09:36,937 --> 01:09:37,605 gate permitting 4166 01:09:37,605 --> 01:09:38,720 , with 4167 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:38,706 water 4168 01:09:38,706 --> 01:09:39,740 rights and so solving 4169 01:09:39,740 --> 01:09:40,207 that 4170 01:09:40,207 --> 01:09:40,674 problem and it 4171 01:09:40,674 --> 01:09:40,974 , it certainly, i 4172 01:09:40,974 --> 01:09:42,543 think 4173 01:09:42,543 --> 01:09:43,243 boiled over into the 4174 01:09:43,243 --> 01:09:44,445 political realm and any 4175 01:09:44,445 --> 01:09:44,745 other 4176 01:09:44,745 --> 01:09:46,745 realms 4177 01:09:46,847 --> 01:09:47,381 . And it's been a long 4178 01:09:47,381 --> 01:09:49,381 running problem in 4179 01:09:49,650 --> 01:09:50,251 our 4180 01:09:50,251 --> 01:09:51,285 community. Uh, when 4181 01:09:51,285 --> 01:09:51,485 we started 4182 01:09:51,485 --> 01:09:52,286 , 4183 01:09:52,286 --> 01:09:53,387 uh, the, the Seattle 4184 01:09:53,387 --> 01:09:54,210 City Light 4185 01:09:54,210 --> 01:09:54,288 dam re licensing 4186 01:09:54,288 --> 01:09:55,723 in 4187 01:09:55,723 --> 01:09:56,424 2020, I 4188 01:09:56,424 --> 01:09:56,857 think that, you know, we really 4189 01:09:56,857 --> 01:09:58,292 were able to 4190 01:09:58,292 --> 01:09:58,859 come together with 4191 01:09:58,859 --> 01:10:00,940 the tribes and with 4192 01:10:00,940 --> 01:10:00,728 the 4193 01:10:00,728 --> 01:10:01,295 resource agencies to say we 4194 01:10:01,295 --> 01:10:02,796 need a new approach 4195 01:10:02,796 --> 01:10:03,197 to this 4196 01:10:03,197 --> 01:10:03,563 . Um 4197 01:10:03,563 --> 01:10:04,732 we need 4198 01:10:04,732 --> 01:10:05,266 to 4199 01:10:05,266 --> 01:10:06,934 really 4200 01:10:06,934 --> 01:10:07,468 focus on 4201 01:10:07,468 --> 01:10:08,350 uh 4202 01:10:08,350 --> 01:10:09,337 working together and 4203 01:10:09,337 --> 01:10:09,737 , um, you 4204 01:10:09,737 --> 01:10:10,171 know, making 4205 01:10:10,171 --> 01:10:11,472 this 4206 01:10:11,472 --> 01:10:12,206 happen 4207 01:10:12,206 --> 01:10:13,508 because more decades of 4208 01:10:13,508 --> 01:10:14,242 arguing 4209 01:10:14,242 --> 01:10:14,642 about this is the wrong answer. 4210 01:10:14,642 --> 01:10:16,110 So that's 4211 01:10:16,110 --> 01:10:16,843 What 4212 01:10:16,843 --> 01:10:18,146 this represents 4213 01:10:18,146 --> 01:10:18,846 in 4214 01:10:18,846 --> 01:10:19,147 , you know, we reached, uh, I 4215 01:10:19,147 --> 01:10:20,615 think 4216 01:10:20,615 --> 01:10:20,915 around that 4217 01:10:20,915 --> 01:10:21,215 concept in 4218 01:10:21,215 --> 01:10:22,984 2020 4219 01:10:22,984 --> 01:10:24,984 . Um 4220 01:10:25,319 --> 01:10:25,853 , and made, uh, you 4221 01:10:25,853 --> 01:10:27,388 know, some 4222 01:10:27,388 --> 01:10:29,157 steps towards it 4223 01:10:29,157 --> 01:10:29,424 , 4224 01:10:29,424 --> 01:10:29,723 but 4225 01:10:29,723 --> 01:10:30,258 in 4226 01:10:30,258 --> 01:10:31,793 2024, the 4227 01:10:31,793 --> 01:10:32,327 Haller family 4228 01:10:32,327 --> 01:10:32,594 put out there that 4229 01:10:32,594 --> 01:10:33,828 they 4230 01:10:33,828 --> 01:10:34,562 were 4231 01:10:34,562 --> 01:10:36,197 interested in selling the farm 4232 01:10:36,197 --> 01:10:36,431 . 4233 01:10:36,431 --> 01:10:37,165 Um 4234 01:10:37,165 --> 01:10:38,233 , it's actually a group 4235 01:10:38,233 --> 01:10:38,833 of 4236 01:10:38,833 --> 01:10:39,300 families at this 4237 01:10:39,300 --> 01:10:40,902 point that own 4238 01:10:40,902 --> 01:10:41,602 this farm 4239 01:10:41,602 --> 01:10:42,700 and uh but they also 4240 01:10:42,700 --> 01:10:43,338 made clear that 4241 01:10:43,338 --> 01:10:44,380 they really 4242 01:10:44,380 --> 01:10:44,305 weren't interested in seeing it 4243 01:10:44,305 --> 01:10:45,506 go 4244 01:10:45,506 --> 01:10:46,740 to habitat 4245 01:10:46,740 --> 01:10:46,274 . So that was 4246 01:10:46,274 --> 01:10:48,274 a 4247 01:10:48,343 --> 01:10:49,843 problem, at least for our plans 4248 01:10:49,843 --> 01:10:50,345 for the 4249 01:10:50,345 --> 01:10:50,712 broader community's 4250 01:10:50,712 --> 01:10:52,147 plans for 4251 01:10:52,147 --> 01:10:52,514 the 4252 01:10:52,514 --> 01:10:53,181 fisheries 4253 01:10:53,181 --> 01:10:53,480 resource for the recovery plan, 4254 01:10:53,480 --> 01:10:54,416 all 4255 01:10:54,416 --> 01:10:55,116 of this 4256 01:10:55,116 --> 01:10:56,418 , tribal 4257 01:10:56,418 --> 01:10:57,185 interests, 4258 01:10:57,185 --> 01:10:57,419 um, and what we were able to do 4259 01:10:57,419 --> 01:10:59,540 as 4260 01:10:59,540 --> 01:10:59,320 county government is bring 4261 01:10:59,320 --> 01:10:59,721 the 4262 01:10:59,721 --> 01:11:01,880 parties 4263 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:01,890 together and say, 4264 01:11:01,890 --> 01:11:02,991 you know, the county can 4265 01:11:02,991 --> 01:11:03,258 come 4266 01:11:03,258 --> 01:11:04,158 in 4267 01:11:04,158 --> 01:11:05,393 . We have eminent 4268 01:11:05,393 --> 01:11:06,328 domain 4269 01:11:06,328 --> 01:11:08,396 authority, and we'll make you a 4270 01:11:08,396 --> 01:11:08,730 friendly offer, and what that 4271 01:11:08,730 --> 01:11:10,730 will do 4272 01:11:11,660 --> 01:11:12,367 . Provides 4273 01:11:12,367 --> 01:11:13,135 significant 4274 01:11:13,135 --> 01:11:14,569 federal tax advantages and the 4275 01:11:14,569 --> 01:11:14,870 capital 4276 01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:15,270 gains 4277 01:11:15,270 --> 01:11:17,105 scenario, um 4278 01:11:17,105 --> 01:11:17,806 , And 4279 01:11:17,806 --> 01:11:18,907 real estate excise tax 4280 01:11:18,907 --> 01:11:19,341 , so 4281 01:11:19,341 --> 01:11:21,341 we're able 4282 01:11:21,410 --> 01:11:21,843 to 4283 01:11:21,843 --> 01:11:22,511 persuade thusly, 4284 01:11:22,511 --> 01:11:23,478 we're able to persuade 4285 01:11:23,478 --> 01:11:24,146 the 4286 01:11:24,146 --> 01:11:24,479 Haller Farm family 4287 01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:25,580 to sell 4288 01:11:25,580 --> 01:11:25,847 this 4289 01:11:25,847 --> 01:11:27,847 farm 4290 01:11:27,982 --> 01:11:28,550 . And 4291 01:11:28,550 --> 01:11:28,984 uh including a plan 4292 01:11:28,984 --> 01:11:30,352 that would 4293 01:11:30,352 --> 01:11:31,186 involve this red 4294 01:11:31,186 --> 01:11:32,354 area being turned into 4295 01:11:32,354 --> 01:11:32,988 fish 4296 01:11:32,988 --> 01:11:33,455 habitat and a dike 4297 01:11:33,455 --> 01:11:35,190 estuary dike 4298 01:11:35,190 --> 01:11:35,456 setback project. Again 4299 01:11:35,456 --> 01:11:35,724 , number 4300 01:11:35,724 --> 01:11:37,293 one 4301 01:11:37,293 --> 01:11:37,993 project here, top of the 4302 01:11:37,993 --> 01:11:39,128 list in terms of moving 4303 01:11:39,128 --> 01:11:39,828 the 4304 01:11:39,828 --> 01:11:40,295 arch sticks 4305 01:11:40,295 --> 01:11:42,640 towards recovery 4306 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:42,731 and solving these problems with 4307 01:11:42,731 --> 01:11:44,433 tide gates and other things 4308 01:11:44,433 --> 01:11:44,799 . Um 4309 01:11:44,799 --> 01:11:45,868 the rest 4310 01:11:45,868 --> 01:11:46,368 of the 4311 01:11:46,368 --> 01:11:47,200 farm though, uh 4312 01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:48,270 what's to be done about 4313 01:11:48,270 --> 01:11:48,504 that 4314 01:11:48,504 --> 01:11:49,171 ? 4315 01:11:49,171 --> 01:11:50,506 And so this was the 4316 01:11:50,506 --> 01:11:51,273 plan we 4317 01:11:51,273 --> 01:11:53,709 came up with. This is my rough 4318 01:11:53,709 --> 01:11:54,343 hand-drawn map. They're, 4319 01:11:54,343 --> 01:11:54,910 believe me, there are better 4320 01:11:54,910 --> 01:11:55,577 maps and we have surveyors 4321 01:11:55,577 --> 01:11:56,440 involved, so nobody get 4322 01:11:56,440 --> 01:11:57,313 concerned here 4323 01:11:57,313 --> 01:11:57,879 , but, um 4324 01:11:57,879 --> 01:11:58,180 , You 4325 01:11:58,180 --> 01:11:59,648 know 4326 01:11:59,648 --> 01:11:59,806 , and this was, this 4327 01:11:59,806 --> 01:12:00,149 was 4328 01:12:00,149 --> 01:12:00,516 the rough 4329 01:12:00,516 --> 01:12:01,951 plan that 4330 01:12:01,951 --> 01:12:02,184 the 4331 01:12:02,184 --> 01:12:02,785 habitat 4332 01:12:02,785 --> 01:12:04,253 portion here goes to 4333 01:12:04,253 --> 01:12:04,587 the 4334 01:12:04,587 --> 01:12:04,854 state 4335 01:12:04,854 --> 01:12:06,388 that 4336 01:12:06,388 --> 01:12:07,220 Swinomish end up with 4337 01:12:07,220 --> 01:12:07,256 Fishtown. Fishtown, of course, 4338 01:12:07,256 --> 01:12:08,491 is 4339 01:12:08,491 --> 01:12:09,250 the 4340 01:12:09,250 --> 01:12:09,558 storied artist colony at 4341 01:12:09,558 --> 01:12:10,960 the mouth of the 4342 01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:11,127 North Fork 4343 01:12:11,127 --> 01:12:11,460 . 4344 01:12:11,460 --> 01:12:11,760 It's a 4345 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,229 very 4346 01:12:13,229 --> 01:12:14,300 significant 4347 01:12:14,300 --> 01:12:15,310 cultural site for Swinomish 4348 01:12:15,310 --> 01:12:15,598 . 4349 01:12:15,598 --> 01:12:16,165 There's a historic village 4350 01:12:16,165 --> 01:12:17,900 there that there was 4351 01:12:17,900 --> 01:12:18,868 an 4352 01:12:18,868 --> 01:12:20,200 archaeological investigation 4353 01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:20,436 in 4354 01:12:20,436 --> 01:12:20,937 the 80s 4355 01:12:20,937 --> 01:12:22,404 , very important to 4356 01:12:22,404 --> 01:12:22,872 the 4357 01:12:22,872 --> 01:12:24,872 tribe, and 4358 01:12:24,974 --> 01:12:25,575 , uh, Swinish up here 4359 01:12:25,575 --> 01:12:26,576 is to get this other 4360 01:12:26,576 --> 01:12:26,776 piece 4361 01:12:26,776 --> 01:12:27,376 of 4362 01:12:27,376 --> 01:12:29,110 uplands, uh, pleasant 4363 01:12:29,110 --> 01:12:30,680 , Ridge 4364 01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:31,480 , 4365 01:12:31,480 --> 01:12:31,981 um, guillo pickles, which is 4366 01:12:31,981 --> 01:12:33,316 operating at the 4367 01:12:33,316 --> 01:12:33,583 pickle plant. 4368 01:12:33,583 --> 01:12:34,450 They 4369 01:12:34,450 --> 01:12:35,418 , uh, have purchased 4370 01:12:35,418 --> 01:12:36,119 this 4371 01:12:36,119 --> 01:12:36,386 portion of the property 4372 01:12:36,386 --> 01:12:36,753 . This 4373 01:12:36,753 --> 01:12:38,530 doesn't 4374 01:12:38,530 --> 01:12:38,755 entirely track how it 4375 01:12:38,755 --> 01:12:39,989 ended up, but But you get 4376 01:12:39,989 --> 01:12:40,923 the 4377 01:12:40,923 --> 01:12:42,425 idea. And so the idea 4378 01:12:42,425 --> 01:12:42,592 here is 4379 01:12:42,592 --> 01:12:43,158 , 4380 01:12:43,158 --> 01:12:44,661 uh, you know, the 4381 01:12:44,661 --> 01:12:44,928 county 4382 01:12:44,928 --> 01:12:45,560 closes 4383 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:46,963 on this acquisition 4384 01:12:46,963 --> 01:12:47,430 , and we 4385 01:12:47,430 --> 01:12:47,763 immediately 4386 01:12:47,763 --> 01:12:49,232 turn 4387 01:12:49,232 --> 01:12:50,330 around and 4388 01:12:50,330 --> 01:12:51,835 transfer the habitat land 4389 01:12:51,835 --> 01:12:52,101 to 4390 01:12:52,101 --> 01:12:53,670 wfw 4391 01:12:53,670 --> 01:12:54,337 , uh, Seattle City 4392 01:12:54,337 --> 01:12:54,495 Light 4393 01:12:54,495 --> 01:12:54,804 has 4394 01:12:54,804 --> 01:12:55,772 stepped 4395 01:12:55,772 --> 01:12:56,105 up 4396 01:12:56,105 --> 01:12:56,739 and said that 4397 01:12:56,739 --> 01:12:57,400 they're willing to fund that 4398 01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:58,440 from 4399 01:12:58,440 --> 01:12:58,942 Uh 4400 01:12:58,942 --> 01:13:00,276 , the ferc 4401 01:13:00,276 --> 01:13:00,910 settlement 4402 01:13:00,910 --> 01:13:01,544 agreement, so it's a win there 4403 01:13:01,544 --> 01:13:01,811 and we're, you know, that was 4404 01:13:01,811 --> 01:13:03,146 one 4405 01:13:03,146 --> 01:13:03,446 of our big concerns and 4406 01:13:03,446 --> 01:13:04,647 that 4407 01:13:04,647 --> 01:13:05,215 ferc 4408 01:13:05,215 --> 01:13:05,849 settlement process is 4409 01:13:05,849 --> 01:13:07,183 making sure 4410 01:13:07,183 --> 01:13:07,884 that this money 4411 01:13:07,884 --> 01:13:08,184 isn't just sort of fire hosed 4412 01:13:08,184 --> 01:13:09,686 on our 4413 01:13:09,686 --> 01:13:09,986 land base to buy 4414 01:13:09,986 --> 01:13:10,519 random 4415 01:13:10,519 --> 01:13:11,588 land without moving 4416 01:13:11,588 --> 01:13:12,355 the 4417 01:13:12,355 --> 01:13:12,622 yardsticks on what matters here 4418 01:13:12,622 --> 01:13:13,790 So 4419 01:13:13,790 --> 01:13:14,491 that's a 4420 01:13:14,491 --> 01:13:15,892 great thing. Um 4421 01:13:15,892 --> 01:13:16,325 , 4422 01:13:16,325 --> 01:13:17,126 we've also 4423 01:13:17,126 --> 01:13:19,126 , uh, Swinomish 4424 01:13:19,129 --> 01:13:19,830 , uh, 4425 01:13:19,830 --> 01:13:21,640 after we closed, they, and 4426 01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:21,564 that's what this purchase and 4427 01:13:21,564 --> 01:13:22,899 sale agreement is 4428 01:13:22,899 --> 01:13:23,133 about 4429 01:13:23,133 --> 01:13:23,900 is 4430 01:13:23,900 --> 01:13:26,103 Swinomish gets Fishtown and 4431 01:13:26,103 --> 01:13:27,704 Pleasant Ridge. Um, in the 4432 01:13:27,704 --> 01:13:28,404 purchase and sale agreement in 4433 01:13:28,404 --> 01:13:29,940 paragraph, have three, you'll 4434 01:13:29,940 --> 01:13:30,674 see one of the things we 4435 01:13:30,674 --> 01:13:32,175 negotiated is 4436 01:13:32,175 --> 01:13:32,542 upon execution 4437 01:13:32,542 --> 01:13:33,760 , 4438 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:34,311 Swinomishev agreed 4439 01:13:34,311 --> 01:13:34,644 to put their 4440 01:13:34,644 --> 01:13:35,440 money 4441 01:13:35,440 --> 01:13:36,245 in escrow 4442 01:13:36,245 --> 01:13:36,713 with land 4443 01:13:36,713 --> 01:13:37,800 titles so 4444 01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:37,480 that everybody's 4445 01:13:37,480 --> 01:13:38,815 clear that 4446 01:13:38,815 --> 01:13:39,416 we're all in and 4447 01:13:39,416 --> 01:13:40,851 we're partners on 4448 01:13:40,851 --> 01:13:41,351 this together 4449 01:13:41,351 --> 01:13:43,220 Uh, and that was 4450 01:13:43,220 --> 01:13:43,854 , uh, really 4451 01:13:43,854 --> 01:13:44,388 grateful that they agreed to 4452 01:13:44,388 --> 01:13:45,322 that because I think 4453 01:13:45,322 --> 01:13:45,989 that's 4454 01:13:45,989 --> 01:13:47,324 really helpful in terms of 4455 01:13:47,324 --> 01:13:48,250 How 4456 01:13:48,250 --> 01:13:48,324 the rest of us are looking 4457 01:13:48,324 --> 01:13:48,559 at 4458 01:13:48,559 --> 01:13:50,160 it 4459 01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:51,280 , uh, and 4460 01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:52,129 , um, and then 4461 01:13:52,129 --> 01:13:52,596 with 4462 01:13:52,596 --> 01:13:54,264 respect to the 4463 01:13:54,264 --> 01:13:54,498 , the 4464 01:13:54,498 --> 01:13:55,266 farmland 4465 01:13:55,266 --> 01:13:56,766 piece here, and that's, by the 4466 01:13:56,766 --> 01:13:57,134 way, all of 4467 01:13:57,134 --> 01:13:57,468 the improvements, 4468 01:13:57,468 --> 01:13:59,468 so the 4469 01:13:59,970 --> 01:14:01,739 , the farmhouse, the farm 4470 01:14:01,739 --> 01:14:02,172 uh, you know, the barn, all of 4471 01:14:02,172 --> 01:14:03,340 that, there's 4472 01:14:03,340 --> 01:14:03,741 3 houses 4473 01:14:03,741 --> 01:14:04,308 on the 4474 01:14:04,308 --> 01:14:05,809 property. They're 4475 01:14:05,809 --> 01:14:06,176 all part of 4476 01:14:06,176 --> 01:14:06,777 this 4477 01:14:06,777 --> 01:14:08,445 core farmland 4478 01:14:08,445 --> 01:14:10,280 , which will 4479 01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:10,915 remain ag nrl 4480 01:14:10,915 --> 01:14:12,449 . The 4481 01:14:12,449 --> 01:14:13,116 intention is 4482 01:14:13,116 --> 01:14:13,550 we're peeling off the 4483 01:14:13,550 --> 01:14:14,718 Swinhamish 4484 01:14:14,718 --> 01:14:15,840 piece 4485 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:15,247 pieces in 4486 01:14:15,247 --> 01:14:15,819 the 4487 01:14:15,819 --> 01:14:17,121 wfw pieces were being 4488 01:14:17,121 --> 01:14:17,421 Paid 4489 01:14:17,421 --> 01:14:17,988 by 4490 01:14:17,988 --> 01:14:19,590 them immediately 4491 01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:20,123 for those, and 4492 01:14:20,123 --> 01:14:21,324 the idea is 4493 01:14:21,324 --> 01:14:21,826 that 4494 01:14:21,826 --> 01:14:22,193 Skagit County 4495 01:14:22,193 --> 01:14:23,694 will put a 4496 01:14:23,694 --> 01:14:24,950 farmland 4497 01:14:24,950 --> 01:14:24,628 legacy 4498 01:14:24,628 --> 01:14:25,863 easement on the 4499 01:14:25,863 --> 01:14:26,297 farmland 4500 01:14:26,297 --> 01:14:26,797 property and 4501 01:14:26,797 --> 01:14:28,990 immediately 4502 01:14:28,990 --> 01:14:28,565 resell 4503 01:14:28,565 --> 01:14:28,833 as farmland 4504 01:14:28,833 --> 01:14:29,300 . So 4505 01:14:29,300 --> 01:14:30,334 , you know, it's 4506 01:14:30,334 --> 01:14:31,102 a 4507 01:14:31,102 --> 01:14:31,469 real win-win for the 4508 01:14:31,469 --> 01:14:33,203 community 4509 01:14:33,203 --> 01:14:33,571 , you know, it, it 4510 01:14:33,571 --> 01:14:35,720 meets 4511 01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:35,773 Swinnerish needs in terms 4512 01:14:35,773 --> 01:14:37,809 of cultural lands. It 4513 01:14:37,809 --> 01:14:38,609 keeps 4514 01:14:38,609 --> 01:14:38,976 gillo pickles in operation, 4515 01:14:38,976 --> 01:14:39,610 which is 4516 01:14:39,610 --> 01:14:39,877 a, you know 4517 01:14:39,877 --> 01:14:40,344 , pretty 4518 01:14:40,344 --> 01:14:42,213 significant, um 4519 01:14:42,213 --> 01:14:42,914 , Economic 4520 01:14:42,914 --> 01:14:43,681 activity, they're also up 4521 01:14:43,681 --> 01:14:44,348 at 4522 01:14:44,348 --> 01:14:44,682 the port. They're a 4523 01:14:44,682 --> 01:14:46,830 national 4524 01:14:46,830 --> 01:14:46,918 concern 4525 01:14:46,918 --> 01:14:48,786 . It secures the 4526 01:14:48,786 --> 01:14:49,387 property needed for this number 4527 01:14:49,387 --> 01:14:50,721 one estuary project 4528 01:14:50,721 --> 01:14:50,897 and 4529 01:14:50,897 --> 01:14:51,289 the 4530 01:14:51,289 --> 01:14:51,622 recovery plan 4531 01:14:51,622 --> 01:14:52,924 . And 4532 01:14:52,924 --> 01:14:53,791 it protects 4533 01:14:53,791 --> 01:14:56,600 this farmland for the long term 4534 01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:57,395 The farmland legacy easement 4535 01:14:57,395 --> 01:14:58,960 , 4536 01:14:58,960 --> 01:14:59,630 uh, we've negotiated with 4537 01:14:59,630 --> 01:14:59,998 the 4538 01:14:59,998 --> 01:15:00,331 tribes and 4539 01:15:00,331 --> 01:15:00,732 agencies 4540 01:15:00,732 --> 01:15:02,660 and 4541 01:15:02,660 --> 01:15:02,366 agreed 4542 01:15:02,366 --> 01:15:02,766 to 4543 01:15:02,766 --> 01:15:04,680 include 4544 01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:04,369 a 4545 01:15:04,369 --> 01:15:05,136 climate 4546 01:15:05,136 --> 01:15:06,871 contingency provision in the 4547 01:15:06,871 --> 01:15:07,710 farmland legacy easement 4548 01:15:07,710 --> 01:15:07,372 . So 4549 01:15:07,372 --> 01:15:08,940 that 4550 01:15:08,940 --> 01:15:09,474 if it 4551 01:15:09,474 --> 01:15:10,410 ever does, the sea 4552 01:15:10,410 --> 01:15:10,942 ever comes up and it 4553 01:15:10,942 --> 01:15:11,742 can't be 4554 01:15:11,742 --> 01:15:13,278 used for even raising 4555 01:15:13,278 --> 01:15:13,945 oats, it 4556 01:15:13,945 --> 01:15:14,312 can at that point be used for 4557 01:15:14,312 --> 01:15:15,747 habitat 4558 01:15:15,747 --> 01:15:16,481 , but that's as far as 4559 01:15:16,481 --> 01:15:18,583 we're concerned, a ways down 4560 01:15:18,583 --> 01:15:20,850 the road 4561 01:15:20,850 --> 01:15:20,652 , this little 8 acres 4562 01:15:20,652 --> 01:15:22,530 up here goes with 4563 01:15:22,530 --> 01:15:22,320 the 4564 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:22,886 farmland 4565 01:15:22,886 --> 01:15:23,321 as well, and 4566 01:15:23,321 --> 01:15:25,156 there's buyers 4567 01:15:25,156 --> 01:15:25,490 have expressed interest in it. 4568 01:15:25,490 --> 01:15:26,524 I think 4569 01:15:26,524 --> 01:15:27,580 what 4570 01:15:27,580 --> 01:15:27,559 we will have into 4571 01:15:27,559 --> 01:15:28,960 this at the end 4572 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:29,194 of it 4573 01:15:29,194 --> 01:15:29,394 as 4574 01:15:29,394 --> 01:15:29,728 well 4575 01:15:29,728 --> 01:15:30,127 within 4576 01:15:30,127 --> 01:15:31,229 the bandwidth 4577 01:15:31,229 --> 01:15:31,389 , the 4578 01:15:31,389 --> 01:15:31,796 fair 4579 01:15:31,796 --> 01:15:33,398 market value 4580 01:15:33,398 --> 01:15:34,166 , particularly 4581 01:15:34,166 --> 01:15:34,433 considering all the structures 4582 01:15:34,433 --> 01:15:35,834 and 4583 01:15:35,834 --> 01:15:36,567 infrastructure houses and 4584 01:15:36,567 --> 01:15:37,903 so forth on the farmland 4585 01:15:37,903 --> 01:15:38,603 . 4586 01:15:38,603 --> 01:15:39,204 Portion. So it's really good 4587 01:15:39,204 --> 01:15:41,390 farmland too. It's some 4588 01:15:41,390 --> 01:15:41,573 of the 4589 01:15:41,573 --> 01:15:42,107 best in the 4590 01:15:42,107 --> 01:15:42,574 valley, you know 4591 01:15:42,574 --> 01:15:43,800 , 4592 01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:44,543 close to the 4593 01:15:44,543 --> 01:15:44,876 fine 4594 01:15:44,876 --> 01:15:45,644 materials are 4595 01:15:45,644 --> 01:15:46,812 towards the edge of the delta 4596 01:15:46,812 --> 01:15:47,479 , 4597 01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:47,779 you know, it's it's it's 4598 01:15:47,779 --> 01:15:48,113 good 4599 01:15:48,113 --> 01:15:49,814 stuff 4600 01:15:49,814 --> 01:15:50,215 , um, so 4601 01:15:50,215 --> 01:15:51,783 the breakdown 4602 01:15:51,783 --> 01:15:52,517 is 4603 01:15:52,517 --> 01:15:54,520 236 acres in 4604 01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:54,586 the farmland 4605 01:15:54,586 --> 01:15:54,853 , 126 4606 01:15:54,853 --> 01:15:56,588 for 4607 01:15:56,588 --> 01:15:58,390 the habitat 4608 01:15:58,390 --> 01:15:58,561 , uh, 64 4609 01:15:58,561 --> 01:15:59,258 for 4610 01:15:59,258 --> 01:16:00,859 Pleasant Ridge to Swinomish 4611 01:16:00,859 --> 01:16:01,226 in 4612 01:16:01,226 --> 01:16:01,593 101 in 4613 01:16:01,593 --> 01:16:02,828 fish acres 4614 01:16:02,828 --> 01:16:02,988 to swim 4615 01:16:02,988 --> 01:16:03,295 in 4616 01:16:03,295 --> 01:16:05,300 Fishtown 4617 01:16:05,300 --> 01:16:07,300 . Um 4618 01:16:07,365 --> 01:16:07,633 , totaling 4619 01:16:07,633 --> 01:16:07,966 524 4620 01:16:07,966 --> 01:16:09,966 acres 4621 01:16:09,967 --> 01:16:11,836 , um, this is the final 4622 01:16:11,836 --> 01:16:12,471 survey map 4623 01:16:12,471 --> 01:16:12,804 , uh, record or 4624 01:16:12,804 --> 01:16:14,173 survey 4625 01:16:14,173 --> 01:16:14,573 that 4626 01:16:14,573 --> 01:16:15,274 Samra Engineering 4627 01:16:15,274 --> 01:16:16,709 has prepared that we've all 4628 01:16:16,709 --> 01:16:18,843 agreed to at this point 4629 01:16:18,843 --> 01:16:19,211 . And it 4630 01:16:19,211 --> 01:16:20,846 you know 4631 01:16:20,846 --> 01:16:21,580 , includes all the 4632 01:16:21,580 --> 01:16:23,482 necessary easements for the 4633 01:16:23,482 --> 01:16:23,916 drainage districts to be able 4634 01:16:23,916 --> 01:16:25,217 to maintain 4635 01:16:25,217 --> 01:16:25,951 their 4636 01:16:25,951 --> 01:16:26,318 infrastructure, access season, 4637 01:16:26,318 --> 01:16:27,586 for fish 4638 01:16:27,586 --> 01:16:28,860 and 4639 01:16:28,860 --> 01:16:28,486 wildlife, so forth 4640 01:16:28,486 --> 01:16:29,889 There was a 4641 01:16:29,889 --> 01:16:30,560 lot of work 4642 01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:30,522 that 4643 01:16:30,522 --> 01:16:32,358 went into this 4644 01:16:32,358 --> 01:16:34,358 . So 4645 01:16:34,627 --> 01:16:35,394 , um, getting 4646 01:16:35,394 --> 01:16:36,896 on and trying not to take up 4647 01:16:36,896 --> 01:16:37,530 the whole time today. Uh 4648 01:16:37,530 --> 01:16:37,630 , I 4649 01:16:37,630 --> 01:16:37,897 know there's some other things 4650 01:16:37,897 --> 01:16:39,131 we 4651 01:16:39,131 --> 01:16:39,290 got to get to. The basic 4652 01:16:39,290 --> 01:16:39,532 , so 4653 01:16:39,532 --> 01:16:41,200 the 4654 01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:41,466 basic intent here 4655 01:16:41,466 --> 01:16:41,901 , this 4656 01:16:41,901 --> 01:16:43,901 agreement is 4657 01:16:44,700 --> 01:16:44,770 a sub-agreement to 4658 01:16:44,770 --> 01:16:45,104 this larger transaction that 4659 01:16:45,104 --> 01:16:45,871 we're 4660 01:16:45,871 --> 01:16:46,305 putting together 4661 01:16:46,305 --> 01:16:48,740 . This 4662 01:16:48,740 --> 01:16:48,541 agreement governs 4663 01:16:48,541 --> 01:16:50,420 the 4664 01:16:50,420 --> 01:16:50,276 county's 4665 01:16:50,276 --> 01:16:50,810 2 4666 01:16:50,810 --> 01:16:52,444 step sale 4667 01:16:52,444 --> 01:16:53,110 of Fishtown and 4668 01:16:53,110 --> 01:16:53,245 Pleasant Ridge 4669 01:16:53,245 --> 01:16:54,714 to 4670 01:16:54,714 --> 01:16:54,981 Swinomish 4671 01:16:54,981 --> 01:16:55,781 , um 4672 01:16:55,781 --> 01:16:56,516 and you know this is, this is 4673 01:16:56,516 --> 01:16:56,916 a 4674 01:16:56,916 --> 01:16:57,650 big deal 4675 01:16:57,650 --> 01:16:57,950 . We've we've been, you 4676 01:16:57,950 --> 01:16:59,318 know 4677 01:16:59,318 --> 01:17:00,119 , I think, as you know, 4678 01:17:00,119 --> 01:17:01,387 we've been working on this for 4679 01:17:01,387 --> 01:17:01,721 2 years 4680 01:17:01,721 --> 01:17:02,155 . Uh 4681 01:17:02,155 --> 01:17:04,155 , and 4682 01:17:04,457 --> 01:17:05,458 Um, you know 4683 01:17:05,458 --> 01:17:05,724 , 4684 01:17:05,724 --> 01:17:06,492 it's 4685 01:17:06,492 --> 01:17:07,961 come together 4686 01:17:07,961 --> 01:17:08,695 , 01 other 4687 01:17:08,695 --> 01:17:09,262 thing I wanted to mention is I 4688 01:17:09,262 --> 01:17:10,363 think Upper Skagits 4689 01:17:10,363 --> 01:17:10,930 also 4690 01:17:10,930 --> 01:17:12,930 expressed interest 4691 01:17:13,660 --> 01:17:13,533 in 4692 01:17:13,533 --> 01:17:14,834 contributing 4693 01:17:14,834 --> 01:17:15,468 some capital to 4694 01:17:15,468 --> 01:17:16,102 this along with the county to 4695 01:17:16,102 --> 01:17:16,969 help us out. We've got 4696 01:17:16,969 --> 01:17:17,670 to work 4697 01:17:17,670 --> 01:17:19,139 out the details of that 4698 01:17:19,139 --> 01:17:19,706 , so we 4699 01:17:19,706 --> 01:17:20,373 really want to bring this 4700 01:17:20,373 --> 01:17:21,641 together into a, you know 4701 01:17:21,641 --> 01:17:22,375 , team 4702 01:17:22,375 --> 01:17:22,742 scadget effort, and it looks 4703 01:17:22,742 --> 01:17:24,477 headed 4704 01:17:24,477 --> 01:17:26,477 . Um 4705 01:17:26,679 --> 01:17:26,946 , So the 4706 01:17:26,946 --> 01:17:28,181 idea 4707 01:17:28,181 --> 01:17:28,915 here is 4708 01:17:28,915 --> 01:17:29,730 what we're doing is 4709 01:17:29,730 --> 01:17:29,448 we're 4710 01:17:29,448 --> 01:17:30,583 accepting 4711 01:17:30,583 --> 01:17:30,783 an offer 4712 01:17:30,783 --> 01:17:31,151 from 4713 01:17:31,151 --> 01:17:32,652 Swinomish 4714 01:17:32,652 --> 01:17:33,860 . Um 4715 01:17:33,860 --> 01:17:33,886 , and we have till 4716 01:17:33,886 --> 01:17:35,888 today to do it, so it's good 4717 01:17:35,888 --> 01:17:37,958 we're here on AUGUST 31st. Um 4718 01:17:37,958 --> 01:17:38,358 , 4719 01:17:38,358 --> 01:17:39,426 And then 4720 01:17:39,426 --> 01:17:39,925 the 4721 01:17:39,925 --> 01:17:40,427 idea is over 4722 01:17:40,427 --> 01:17:42,427 the 4723 01:17:42,529 --> 01:17:43,128 course, we 4724 01:17:43,128 --> 01:17:44,300 will 4725 01:17:44,300 --> 01:17:44,831 also exercise 4726 01:17:44,831 --> 01:17:46,266 the option here. Um, we've 4727 01:17:46,266 --> 01:17:47,330 got 4728 01:17:47,330 --> 01:17:47,300 some details to work out with 4729 01:17:47,300 --> 01:17:48,935 the 4730 01:17:48,935 --> 01:17:49,369 Heller family 4731 01:17:49,369 --> 01:17:49,603 , uh, in terms 4732 01:17:49,603 --> 01:17:50,837 of 4733 01:17:50,837 --> 01:17:51,104 a 4734 01:17:51,104 --> 01:17:51,438 few 4735 01:17:51,438 --> 01:17:53,600 trailing 4736 01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:53,507 issues 4737 01:17:53,507 --> 01:17:54,141 , uh, 4738 01:17:54,141 --> 01:17:55,475 price adjustment based 4739 01:17:55,475 --> 01:17:55,942 on their 4740 01:17:55,942 --> 01:17:56,510 sale of the 4741 01:17:56,510 --> 01:17:58,111 Gilo property, for 4742 01:17:58,111 --> 01:17:59,946 one thing 4743 01:17:59,946 --> 01:18:00,447 , um, and they 4744 01:18:00,447 --> 01:18:00,747 acceptance of 4745 01:18:00,747 --> 01:18:02,480 their 4746 01:18:02,480 --> 01:18:02,716 survey map 4747 01:18:02,716 --> 01:18:03,350 and the partition of the 4748 01:18:03,350 --> 01:18:04,510 property into the parcels 4749 01:18:04,510 --> 01:18:04,351 we 4750 01:18:04,351 --> 01:18:05,180 need 4751 01:18:05,180 --> 01:18:06,853 . Uh 4752 01:18:06,853 --> 01:18:07,454 , so the plan is over 4753 01:18:07,454 --> 01:18:08,622 the next two months 4754 01:18:08,622 --> 01:18:08,888 to 4755 01:18:08,888 --> 01:18:09,423 move 4756 01:18:09,423 --> 01:18:09,656 towards closing 4757 01:18:09,656 --> 01:18:10,958 and 4758 01:18:10,958 --> 01:18:11,157 to 4759 01:18:11,157 --> 01:18:11,725 close by 4760 01:18:11,725 --> 01:18:13,961 the end of OCTOBER 4761 01:18:13,961 --> 01:18:14,261 . We'll see 4762 01:18:14,261 --> 01:18:15,796 if we 4763 01:18:15,796 --> 01:18:16,263 get 4764 01:18:16,263 --> 01:18:16,729 there that good shot 4765 01:18:16,729 --> 01:18:18,310 that we will 4766 01:18:18,310 --> 01:18:18,799 . It might drag out 4767 01:18:18,799 --> 01:18:19,767 a little bit longer than that 4768 01:18:19,767 --> 01:18:20,267 , 4769 01:18:20,267 --> 01:18:22,236 but hopefully not 4770 01:18:22,236 --> 01:18:22,736 . Um 4771 01:18:22,736 --> 01:18:23,203 , this 4772 01:18:23,203 --> 01:18:24,438 agreement that 4773 01:18:24,438 --> 01:18:24,905 you're 4774 01:18:24,905 --> 01:18:25,305 signing 4775 01:18:25,305 --> 01:18:27,600 today is a 4776 01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:27,574 contingent agreement 4777 01:18:27,574 --> 01:18:28,420 You know, you've heard of 4778 01:18:28,420 --> 01:18:28,409 contingent sales when 4779 01:18:28,409 --> 01:18:29,243 somebody's 4780 01:18:29,243 --> 01:18:29,877 off by your house, 4781 01:18:29,877 --> 01:18:31,412 if I can sell my house 4782 01:18:31,412 --> 01:18:32,313 over 4783 01:18:32,313 --> 01:18:33,814 here, it's contingent in that 4784 01:18:33,814 --> 01:18:34,215 same way, which is 4785 01:18:34,215 --> 01:18:34,581 that there's 4786 01:18:34,581 --> 01:18:36,150 no 4787 01:18:36,150 --> 01:18:36,750 obligations here unless we 4788 01:18:36,750 --> 01:18:37,952 close with Haller 4789 01:18:37,952 --> 01:18:38,185 . Like 4790 01:18:38,185 --> 01:18:38,419 we 4791 01:18:38,419 --> 01:18:39,850 can, 4792 01:18:39,850 --> 01:18:39,320 if we don't have any property 4793 01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:40,287 to 4794 01:18:40,287 --> 01:18:40,754 sell 4795 01:18:40,754 --> 01:18:41,355 them, we can't sell 4796 01:18:41,355 --> 01:18:42,690 them the property and 4797 01:18:42,690 --> 01:18:43,457 that's 4798 01:18:43,457 --> 01:18:44,492 reflected in the agreement. Uh 4799 01:18:44,492 --> 01:18:45,192 , 4800 01:18:45,192 --> 01:18:45,760 one of the issues that you are 4801 01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,261 aware of that we 4802 01:18:47,261 --> 01:18:47,927 were working 4803 01:18:47,927 --> 01:18:49,329 through at some length 4804 01:18:49,329 --> 01:18:49,864 . Over 4805 01:18:49,864 --> 01:18:51,699 the past 4806 01:18:51,699 --> 01:18:52,233 couple of 4807 01:18:52,233 --> 01:18:52,533 weeks anyway 4808 01:18:52,533 --> 01:18:53,701 was 4809 01:18:53,701 --> 01:18:55,701 , um 4810 01:18:56,570 --> 01:18:56,871 , And by the way, that's 4811 01:18:56,871 --> 01:18:58,673 a 4812 01:18:58,673 --> 01:18:59,240 paragraph 15 that makes it 4813 01:18:59,240 --> 01:18:59,640 contingent that I just 4814 01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:00,641 mentioned 4815 01:19:00,641 --> 01:19:01,442 , but um 4816 01:19:01,442 --> 01:19:02,810 , It 4817 01:19:02,810 --> 01:19:03,100 was 4818 01:19:03,100 --> 01:19:03,277 a 4819 01:19:03,277 --> 01:19:03,811 the 4820 01:19:03,811 --> 01:19:05,513 question of 4821 01:19:05,513 --> 01:19:06,147 dispute resolution 4822 01:19:06,147 --> 01:19:07,381 under these agreements 4823 01:19:07,381 --> 01:19:08,150 , and 4824 01:19:08,150 --> 01:19:08,415 it's, you know, it's just one 4825 01:19:08,415 --> 01:19:09,684 of, there's 4826 01:19:09,684 --> 01:19:10,351 , there's many 4827 01:19:10,351 --> 01:19:10,651 things that we needed to work 4828 01:19:10,651 --> 01:19:11,853 out 4829 01:19:11,853 --> 01:19:12,320 , many 4830 01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:13,200 subquestions, I guess 4831 01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:14,255 you might say, and this 4832 01:19:14,255 --> 01:19:14,555 . And 4833 01:19:14,555 --> 01:19:15,123 , 4834 01:19:15,123 --> 01:19:16,324 uh, you know, the 4835 01:19:16,324 --> 01:19:16,624 tribe likes 4836 01:19:16,624 --> 01:19:17,580 to 4837 01:19:17,580 --> 01:19:18,826 have 4838 01:19:18,826 --> 01:19:19,930 disputes with land 4839 01:19:19,930 --> 01:19:19,726 they 4840 01:19:19,726 --> 01:19:20,862 own resolved in tribal 4841 01:19:20,862 --> 01:19:21,429 court 4842 01:19:21,429 --> 01:19:23,398 under tribal law 4843 01:19:23,398 --> 01:19:23,898 . And of course 4844 01:19:23,898 --> 01:19:25,433 we like to have 4845 01:19:25,433 --> 01:19:25,700 them 4846 01:19:25,700 --> 01:19:26,301 resolved 4847 01:19:26,301 --> 01:19:27,367 under Washington law 4848 01:19:27,367 --> 01:19:27,902 in 4849 01:19:27,902 --> 01:19:28,303 Washington courts 4850 01:19:28,303 --> 01:19:29,704 . Um 4851 01:19:29,704 --> 01:19:30,638 , and so 4852 01:19:30,638 --> 01:19:31,973 we were able to bridge that 4853 01:19:31,973 --> 01:19:32,640 by 4854 01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:34,242 agreeing that if there are 4855 01:19:34,242 --> 01:19:34,976 any 4856 01:19:34,976 --> 01:19:37,450 disputes that we will 4857 01:19:37,450 --> 01:19:37,712 uh 4858 01:19:37,712 --> 01:19:38,130 resolve them We don't plan on 4859 01:19:38,130 --> 01:19:39,810 there 4860 01:19:39,810 --> 01:19:39,748 being any disputes, by 4861 01:19:39,748 --> 01:19:41,182 the way, just to be clear 4862 01:19:41,182 --> 01:19:41,983 , but 4863 01:19:41,983 --> 01:19:43,318 11 always needs to 4864 01:19:43,318 --> 01:19:44,119 , um, plan 4865 01:19:44,119 --> 01:19:44,486 for contingencies, and that's 4866 01:19:44,486 --> 01:19:45,987 why we 4867 01:19:45,987 --> 01:19:46,221 have agreements 4868 01:19:46,221 --> 01:19:46,487 , um, but 4869 01:19:46,487 --> 01:19:48,487 uh 4870 01:19:48,857 --> 01:19:50,580 . Under federal law 4871 01:19:50,580 --> 01:19:50,325 , under 4872 01:19:50,325 --> 01:19:50,892 the 4873 01:19:50,892 --> 01:19:52,127 Federal arbitration 4874 01:19:52,127 --> 01:19:52,394 Act 4875 01:19:52,394 --> 01:19:53,280 with 4876 01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:53,361 any 4877 01:19:53,361 --> 01:19:54,429 disputes 4878 01:19:54,429 --> 01:19:55,300 enforceable 4879 01:19:55,300 --> 01:19:55,330 in federal district 4880 01:19:55,330 --> 01:19:55,630 court. Of 4881 01:19:55,630 --> 01:19:56,831 course 4882 01:19:56,831 --> 01:19:57,465 , the 4883 01:19:57,465 --> 01:19:59,567 tribe is subject to 4884 01:19:59,567 --> 01:20:00,350 federal law, and so we were 4885 01:20:00,350 --> 01:20:01,403 able to bridge 4886 01:20:01,403 --> 01:20:01,870 that gap uh with 4887 01:20:01,870 --> 01:20:02,304 that approach 4888 01:20:02,304 --> 01:20:04,304 . Um 4889 01:20:04,373 --> 01:20:04,639 , Are there 4890 01:20:04,639 --> 01:20:06,108 any 4891 01:20:06,108 --> 01:20:06,541 questions at this point 4892 01:20:06,541 --> 01:20:06,875 ? Mr 4893 01:20:06,875 --> 01:20:08,875 Burns 4894 01:20:08,977 --> 01:20:11,279 , any questions? Just for 4895 01:20:11,279 --> 01:20:13,150 public clarification, you were 4896 01:20:13,150 --> 01:20:13,648 talking about the, the way that 4897 01:20:13,648 --> 01:20:14,950 the property would be 4898 01:20:14,950 --> 01:20:15,350 sectioned 4899 01:20:15,350 --> 01:20:15,684 off and 4900 01:20:15,684 --> 01:20:17,552 uh sent 4901 01:20:17,552 --> 01:20:18,120 to different 4902 01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:19,788 organizations, tribe 4903 01:20:19,788 --> 01:20:20,355 , um, when 4904 01:20:20,355 --> 01:20:21,689 we get to the 4905 01:20:21,689 --> 01:20:22,157 sale 4906 01:20:22,157 --> 01:20:22,326 of 4907 01:20:22,326 --> 01:20:22,758 the 4908 01:20:22,758 --> 01:20:24,590 farmland that 4909 01:20:24,590 --> 01:20:24,660 is left, that 4910 01:20:24,660 --> 01:20:25,160 we're going to put a legacy 4911 01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:26,610 easement on and 4912 01:20:26,610 --> 01:20:26,728 then we're 4913 01:20:26,728 --> 01:20:27,429 going to put it up for sale. 4914 01:20:27,429 --> 01:20:28,230 That's right. You want to 4915 01:20:28,230 --> 01:20:28,831 just 4916 01:20:28,831 --> 01:20:29,131 talk about the 4917 01:20:29,131 --> 01:20:29,631 rough timeline 4918 01:20:29,631 --> 01:20:30,766 that you expect 4919 01:20:30,766 --> 01:20:31,100 for 4920 01:20:31,100 --> 01:20:31,533 that? Yeah, 4921 01:20:31,533 --> 01:20:33,350 I mean, as 4922 01:20:33,350 --> 01:20:33,635 quickly as possible, 4923 01:20:33,635 --> 01:20:33,969 uh, you know, there'll be, 4924 01:20:33,969 --> 01:20:35,169 we'll 4925 01:20:35,169 --> 01:20:35,671 , we'll 4926 01:20:35,671 --> 01:20:36,170 need to put a 4927 01:20:36,170 --> 01:20:37,239 farmland legacy 4928 01:20:37,239 --> 01:20:37,740 . On 4929 01:20:37,740 --> 01:20:38,440 it and then 4930 01:20:38,440 --> 01:20:39,575 surplus the property. It has 4931 01:20:39,575 --> 01:20:39,942 to 4932 01:20:39,942 --> 01:20:40,442 be sold 4933 01:20:40,442 --> 01:20:42,440 . Um 4934 01:20:42,440 --> 01:20:42,378 , at 4935 01:20:42,378 --> 01:20:42,778 auction 4936 01:20:42,778 --> 01:20:44,246 effectively 4937 01:20:44,246 --> 01:20:44,480 . It's 4938 01:20:44,480 --> 01:20:44,637 by 4939 01:20:44,637 --> 01:20:45,147 law 4940 01:20:45,147 --> 01:20:46,415 required to sell 4941 01:20:46,415 --> 01:20:46,749 to the highest 4942 01:20:46,749 --> 01:20:47,480 bidder 4943 01:20:47,480 --> 01:20:49,480 . Um 4944 01:20:49,185 --> 01:20:49,685 , You know 4945 01:20:49,685 --> 01:20:51,685 , I think 4946 01:20:51,854 --> 01:20:52,555 , 4947 01:20:52,555 --> 01:20:52,955 uh, uh, you know, we, we, we 4948 01:20:52,955 --> 01:20:53,455 , 4949 01:20:53,455 --> 01:20:53,856 we can have 4950 01:20:53,856 --> 01:20:54,423 a discussion as to 4951 01:20:54,423 --> 01:20:55,624 where we want to 4952 01:20:55,624 --> 01:20:55,925 put that 4953 01:20:55,925 --> 01:20:56,225 price 4954 01:20:56,225 --> 01:20:57,860 point 4955 01:20:57,860 --> 01:20:58,694 . Obviously we're looking 4956 01:20:58,694 --> 01:21:00,596 to recapture the money we have 4957 01:21:00,596 --> 01:21:00,763 into this, uh, and, and 4958 01:21:00,763 --> 01:21:01,163 that's 4959 01:21:01,163 --> 01:21:02,231 the point 4960 01:21:02,231 --> 01:21:02,565 . I 4961 01:21:02,565 --> 01:21:02,999 think that the 4962 01:21:02,999 --> 01:21:04,266 public needs 4963 01:21:04,266 --> 01:21:04,734 to 4964 01:21:04,734 --> 01:21:05,334 understand is 4965 01:21:05,334 --> 01:21:05,735 there's a lot of paperwork 4966 01:21:05,735 --> 01:21:07,302 going on 4967 01:21:07,302 --> 01:21:07,670 , a lot 4968 01:21:07,670 --> 01:21:07,937 of 4969 01:21:07,937 --> 01:21:08,270 agreements, 4970 01:21:08,270 --> 01:21:09,338 a lot 4971 01:21:09,338 --> 01:21:09,639 of complexities, but 4972 01:21:09,639 --> 01:21:09,939 the 4973 01:21:09,939 --> 01:21:11,730 basic 4974 01:21:11,730 --> 01:21:11,741 thing 4975 01:21:11,741 --> 01:21:12,174 here is the 4976 01:21:12,174 --> 01:21:13,643 county's role 4977 01:21:13,643 --> 01:21:14,477 in this, is to, 4978 01:21:14,477 --> 01:21:15,945 to, to fill a real need 4979 01:21:15,945 --> 01:21:16,312 and 4980 01:21:16,312 --> 01:21:16,646 facilitate 4981 01:21:16,646 --> 01:21:18,246 . Uh 4982 01:21:18,246 --> 01:21:18,648 , the ability to 4983 01:21:18,648 --> 01:21:19,470 move these 4984 01:21:19,470 --> 01:21:20,182 big projects 4985 01:21:20,182 --> 01:21:20,649 forward 4986 01:21:20,649 --> 01:21:20,950 on the delta 4987 01:21:20,950 --> 01:21:22,351 that 4988 01:21:22,351 --> 01:21:22,985 involve 4989 01:21:22,985 --> 01:21:23,352 tribal interests agency 4990 01:21:23,352 --> 01:21:25,870 interests 4991 01:21:25,870 --> 01:21:25,487 , farming interests, 4992 01:21:25,487 --> 01:21:25,855 dike and 4993 01:21:25,855 --> 01:21:26,989 drainage 4994 01:21:26,989 --> 01:21:27,457 district 4995 01:21:27,457 --> 01:21:28,900 interests. It 4996 01:21:28,900 --> 01:21:29,580 really, you know 4997 01:21:29,580 --> 01:21:29,291 , 4998 01:21:29,291 --> 01:21:29,992 it 4999 01:21:29,992 --> 01:21:30,226 really is, it's tough to see 5000 01:21:30,226 --> 01:21:31,561 it 5001 01:21:31,561 --> 01:21:31,828 working without 5002 01:21:31,828 --> 01:21:32,495 county 5003 01:21:32,495 --> 01:21:33,863 leadership and exercise of 5004 01:21:33,863 --> 01:21:34,329 our 5005 01:21:34,329 --> 01:21:34,664 regulatory and 5006 01:21:34,664 --> 01:21:35,640 other 5007 01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:36,198 authorities 5008 01:21:36,198 --> 01:21:36,899 to help bring this 5009 01:21:36,899 --> 01:21:38,134 together, but at the end of 5010 01:21:38,134 --> 01:21:38,868 the 5011 01:21:38,868 --> 01:21:39,435 day, the goal here is that 5012 01:21:39,435 --> 01:21:40,369 we're no money out 5013 01:21:40,369 --> 01:21:40,528 of 5014 01:21:40,528 --> 01:21:41,404 the 5015 01:21:41,404 --> 01:21:43,390 pocket for the people. In fact 5016 01:21:43,390 --> 01:21:43,840 , 5017 01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:45,307 it's possible, you know, we'll 5018 01:21:45,307 --> 01:21:45,942 even make a little on this. I 5019 01:21:45,942 --> 01:21:46,442 don't know. That's not really 5020 01:21:46,442 --> 01:21:47,609 the goal, but 5021 01:21:47,609 --> 01:21:48,100 But we will sell 5022 01:21:48,100 --> 01:21:49,546 it to the 5023 01:21:49,546 --> 01:21:49,746 highest bidder 5024 01:21:49,746 --> 01:21:50,580 , so 5025 01:21:50,580 --> 01:21:52,182 great, you covered the points I 5026 01:21:52,182 --> 01:21:52,815 I wanted you to, so I 5027 01:21:52,815 --> 01:21:53,950 appreciate that. And 5028 01:21:53,950 --> 01:21:54,584 I also 5029 01:21:54,584 --> 01:21:55,251 appreciate all the work you put 5030 01:21:55,251 --> 01:21:56,190 in on this. I know we've 5031 01:21:56,190 --> 01:21:56,753 all 5032 01:21:56,753 --> 01:21:57,200 had a lot of calls and 5033 01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:57,354 , uh, 5034 01:21:57,354 --> 01:21:58,722 meetings 5035 01:21:58,722 --> 01:21:59,289 and trying to work 5036 01:21:59,289 --> 01:21:59,689 through this and the, the 5037 01:21:59,689 --> 01:22:00,724 differences 5038 01:22:00,724 --> 01:22:01,910 along 5039 01:22:01,910 --> 01:22:01,658 the way. I 5040 01:22:01,658 --> 01:22:02,993 went out and toured 5041 01:22:02,993 --> 01:22:03,360 the 5042 01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:04,126 property 5043 01:22:04,126 --> 01:22:05,362 , um, at one point 5044 01:22:05,362 --> 01:22:05,595 , so 5045 01:22:05,595 --> 01:22:06,229 , 5046 01:22:06,229 --> 01:22:06,596 um, thank you for all the work 5047 01:22:06,596 --> 01:22:07,697 that you 5048 01:22:07,697 --> 01:22:07,864 put into it. I 5049 01:22:07,864 --> 01:22:08,565 do 5050 01:22:08,565 --> 01:22:09,566 appreciate it and I'm glad 5051 01:22:09,566 --> 01:22:10,233 that 5052 01:22:10,233 --> 01:22:10,533 we are reaching a point where 5053 01:22:10,533 --> 01:22:12,202 we can 5054 01:22:12,202 --> 01:22:12,636 move forward. That's all 5055 01:22:12,636 --> 01:22:13,336 I have 5056 01:22:13,336 --> 01:22:14,400 . Commissioner Browning 5057 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:14,471 , 5058 01:22:14,471 --> 01:22:15,500 any questions 5059 01:22:15,500 --> 01:22:16,440 ? Well 5060 01:22:16,440 --> 01:22:16,873 , I do 5061 01:22:16,873 --> 01:22:17,274 , I do 5062 01:22:17,274 --> 01:22:18,508 appreciate 5063 01:22:18,508 --> 01:22:19,800 your 5064 01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:19,676 near legendary 5065 01:22:19,676 --> 01:22:20,777 tenacity on this. This has 5066 01:22:20,777 --> 01:22:21,478 not 5067 01:22:21,478 --> 01:22:21,912 been something that's happened 5068 01:22:21,912 --> 01:22:23,280 quickly, and 5069 01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:23,914 you had to keep 5070 01:22:23,914 --> 01:22:25,248 your foot on it all the 5071 01:22:25,248 --> 01:22:25,983 time, 5072 01:22:25,983 --> 01:22:26,183 and thank you for that, and 5073 01:22:26,183 --> 01:22:26,416 I 5074 01:22:26,416 --> 01:22:27,850 do 5075 01:22:27,850 --> 01:22:28,485 trust that with a little 5076 01:22:28,485 --> 01:22:29,520 help perhaps from the Upper 5077 01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:29,987 Sketcheon and others 5078 01:22:29,987 --> 01:22:30,887 , we will 5079 01:22:30,887 --> 01:22:32,889 at least come out of this hole 5080 01:22:32,889 --> 01:22:34,191 and I'm sure that will happen 5081 01:22:34,191 --> 01:22:34,625 , 5082 01:22:34,625 --> 01:22:36,625 so perfect job 5083 01:22:36,827 --> 01:22:37,227 . We've got a 5084 01:22:37,227 --> 01:22:37,961 real, a 5085 01:22:37,961 --> 01:22:39,463 real responsive 5086 01:22:39,463 --> 01:22:39,963 , uh, 5087 01:22:39,963 --> 01:22:41,432 estuary project 5088 01:22:41,432 --> 01:22:42,320 , one that we 5089 01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:42,399 have not had for a while. This 5090 01:22:42,399 --> 01:22:43,634 is good 5091 01:22:43,634 --> 01:22:43,966 . Well, there's a 5092 01:22:43,966 --> 01:22:44,701 and 5093 01:22:44,701 --> 01:22:45,703 there still. I don't want to 5094 01:22:45,703 --> 01:22:46,103 . 5095 01:22:46,103 --> 01:22:46,670 You know 5096 01:22:46,670 --> 01:22:47,400 , oversell where we are 5097 01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:48,105 but I 5098 01:22:48,105 --> 01:22:48,572 do think that coming 5099 01:22:48,572 --> 01:22:48,972 together with 5100 01:22:48,972 --> 01:22:50,675 Swinomish, I 5101 01:22:50,675 --> 01:22:51,275 think our community should 5102 01:22:51,275 --> 01:22:52,376 appreciate what a big 5103 01:22:52,376 --> 01:22:53,430 deal that 5104 01:22:53,430 --> 01:22:53,577 is. No, I'm very grateful 5105 01:22:53,577 --> 01:22:54,878 They've been very 5106 01:22:54,878 --> 01:22:55,512 , very good in 5107 01:22:55,512 --> 01:22:55,879 this whole process. It's 5108 01:22:55,879 --> 01:22:56,981 fantastic 5109 01:22:56,981 --> 01:22:57,214 for them 5110 01:22:57,214 --> 01:22:57,881 . So 5111 01:22:57,881 --> 01:22:59,881 . Good 5112 01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:00,484 . 5113 01:23:00,484 --> 01:23:01,500 Yeah, I 5114 01:23:01,500 --> 01:23:01,952 also like to thank you, 5115 01:23:01,952 --> 01:23:02,419 Will, for all the work on this. 5116 01:23:02,419 --> 01:23:03,721 Uh, I remember 5117 01:23:03,721 --> 01:23:03,988 a phone call I 5118 01:23:03,988 --> 01:23:05,988 got 5119 01:23:06,323 --> 01:23:06,657 . Almost 2.5, 3 5120 01:23:06,657 --> 01:23:06,817 years 5121 01:23:06,817 --> 01:23:07,570 ago 5122 01:23:07,570 --> 01:23:08,559 when 5123 01:23:08,559 --> 01:23:09,160 he said this property was 5124 01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:09,460 listed, so the broker had 5125 01:23:09,460 --> 01:23:10,694 listed 5126 01:23:10,694 --> 01:23:11,128 the 5127 01:23:11,128 --> 01:23:11,285 whole property 5128 01:23:11,285 --> 01:23:11,762 and 5129 01:23:11,762 --> 01:23:12,797 so that's when 5130 01:23:12,797 --> 01:23:13,364 we started 5131 01:23:13,364 --> 01:23:13,731 thinking about what are the 5132 01:23:13,731 --> 01:23:15,990 options 5133 01:23:15,990 --> 01:23:15,932 available and you did a 5134 01:23:15,932 --> 01:23:17,635 lot of work and we really 5135 01:23:17,635 --> 01:23:18,303 appreciate the Sumish tribe 5136 01:23:18,303 --> 01:23:19,637 coming together on this 5137 01:23:19,637 --> 01:23:19,937 , and I 5138 01:23:19,937 --> 01:23:20,271 know 5139 01:23:20,271 --> 01:23:21,939 Gil 5140 01:23:21,939 --> 01:23:22,640 Pickles taking some of 5141 01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,408 the property too and in the 5142 01:23:24,408 --> 01:23:24,578 upper Skagit helping also 5143 01:23:24,578 --> 01:23:24,775 and 5144 01:23:24,775 --> 01:23:26,510 so 5145 01:23:26,510 --> 01:23:26,810 , um, it's a big 5146 01:23:26,810 --> 01:23:27,511 deal and 5147 01:23:27,511 --> 01:23:28,546 part of it is I want to 5148 01:23:28,546 --> 01:23:29,146 make 5149 01:23:29,146 --> 01:23:30,982 sure that we can still 5150 01:23:30,982 --> 01:23:31,716 maintain 5151 01:23:31,716 --> 01:23:33,384 our ditches in the county and 5152 01:23:33,384 --> 01:23:33,618 our drainage and our 5153 01:23:33,618 --> 01:23:34,850 tide gates 5154 01:23:34,850 --> 01:23:35,353 and so forth 5155 01:23:35,353 --> 01:23:35,653 . Been one of 5156 01:23:35,653 --> 01:23:36,154 the 5157 01:23:36,154 --> 01:23:37,789 issues because the 5158 01:23:37,789 --> 01:23:38,122 salmon 5159 01:23:38,122 --> 01:23:40,122 recovery 5160 01:23:40,525 --> 01:23:41,893 . We 5161 01:23:41,893 --> 01:23:42,360 have 5162 01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:42,527 had 5163 01:23:42,527 --> 01:23:43,270 some 5164 01:23:43,270 --> 01:23:45,270 issues trying to 5165 01:23:45,196 --> 01:23:45,929 get permits to 5166 01:23:45,929 --> 01:23:47,231 get those tide gates and so 5167 01:23:47,231 --> 01:23:47,632 forth fits for agriculture, and 5168 01:23:47,632 --> 01:23:48,933 that's very 5169 01:23:48,933 --> 01:23:49,367 , very 5170 01:23:49,367 --> 01:23:49,933 important for 5171 01:23:49,933 --> 01:23:51,690 um, agriculture 5172 01:23:51,690 --> 01:23:51,636 in Sasketie 5173 01:23:51,636 --> 01:23:52,203 County. So thank you for all 5174 01:23:52,203 --> 01:23:53,538 the work on this 5175 01:23:53,538 --> 01:23:55,538 . Appreciate it 5176 01:23:56,700 --> 01:23:58,700 Anything else 5177 01:23:58,543 --> 01:23:58,776 ? To have a motion 5178 01:23:58,776 --> 01:24:00,178 on 5179 01:24:00,178 --> 01:24:00,512 the miscellaneous 5180 01:24:00,512 --> 01:24:00,878 item to 5181 01:24:00,878 --> 01:24:02,213 item one 5182 01:24:02,213 --> 01:24:02,547 . I'm 5183 01:24:02,547 --> 01:24:03,140 very happy to 5184 01:24:03,140 --> 01:24:04,848 make a motion 5185 01:24:04,848 --> 01:24:05,617 to approve item 1 5186 01:24:05,617 --> 01:24:07,152 the miscellaneous agenda 5187 01:24:07,152 --> 01:24:07,719 . I'll 5188 01:24:07,719 --> 01:24:09,187 second. Let's move 5189 01:24:09,187 --> 01:24:09,988 to 2nd to 5190 01:24:09,988 --> 01:24:11,856 approve miscellaneous agenda 5191 01:24:11,856 --> 01:24:12,223 item number one. Any more 5192 01:24:12,223 --> 01:24:14,192 discussion 5193 01:24:14,192 --> 01:24:14,459 ? All those in favor 5194 01:24:14,459 --> 01:24:15,727 say 5195 01:24:15,727 --> 01:24:16,227 aye 5196 01:24:16,227 --> 01:24:16,528 , aye, who's 5197 01:24:16,528 --> 01:24:16,828 opposed? 5198 01:24:16,828 --> 01:24:18,396 Motion 5199 01:24:18,396 --> 01:24:18,863 passes. Thank you. 5200 01:24:18,863 --> 01:24:20,863 Commissioners 5201 01:24:22,767 --> 01:24:23,502 . Well, thank you. 5202 01:24:23,502 --> 01:24:25,403 Thank you. And we'll get this 5203 01:24:25,403 --> 01:24:27,873 signed so we get it over to the 5204 01:24:27,873 --> 01:24:29,507 Swimmer's tribe today 5205 01:24:29,507 --> 01:24:29,875 . The 5206 01:24:29,875 --> 01:24:30,208 next 5207 01:24:30,208 --> 01:24:31,877 item #2 5208 01:24:31,877 --> 01:24:33,812 , public health 5209 01:24:33,812 --> 01:24:33,970 . Um 5210 01:24:33,970 --> 01:24:34,646 , 5211 01:24:34,646 --> 01:24:35,213 personal service agreement with 5212 01:24:35,213 --> 01:24:36,114 Chinook Enterprise 5213 01:24:36,114 --> 01:24:36,681 to 5214 01:24:36,681 --> 01:24:37,820 provide 5215 01:24:37,820 --> 01:24:38,216 individual 5216 01:24:38,216 --> 01:24:38,617 support 5217 01:24:38,617 --> 01:24:39,284 , employment 5218 01:24:39,284 --> 01:24:40,552 group support, employment 5219 01:24:40,552 --> 01:24:41,620 and 5220 01:24:41,620 --> 01:24:42,888 community inclusion services 5221 01:24:42,888 --> 01:24:43,322 to 5222 01:24:43,322 --> 01:24:43,955 eligible 5223 01:24:43,955 --> 01:24:45,557 individuals with 5224 01:24:45,557 --> 01:24:46,258 developmental disabilities, 5225 01:24:46,258 --> 01:24:47,593 compensation is based upon a 5226 01:24:47,593 --> 01:24:47,859 fee schedule and shall 5227 01:24:47,859 --> 01:24:48,193 not 5228 01:24:48,193 --> 01:24:49,528 exceed 5229 01:24:49,528 --> 01:24:49,828 1.5 5230 01:24:49,828 --> 01:24:50,620 million 5231 01:24:50,620 --> 01:24:50,462 . The 5232 01:24:50,462 --> 01:24:52,970 agreement 5233 01:24:52,970 --> 01:24:52,730 is ratified to 5234 01:24:52,730 --> 01:24:54,266 commence on JULY 1 5235 01:24:54,266 --> 01:24:54,533 , 2026 5236 01:24:54,533 --> 01:24:55,000 and 5237 01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:56,368 continue until 5238 01:24:56,368 --> 01:24:57,302 JUNE 30 5239 01:24:57,302 --> 01:24:58,470 , 2027 5240 01:24:58,470 --> 01:24:58,737 . 5241 01:24:58,737 --> 01:24:59,605 Um 5242 01:24:59,605 --> 01:25:01,600 , commissioner Browning is on 5243 01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:01,373 the Chinook 5244 01:25:01,373 --> 01:25:01,874 Enterprise board, 5245 01:25:01,874 --> 01:25:03,275 so he will be 5246 01:25:03,275 --> 01:25:03,574 . Recusing on this 5247 01:25:03,574 --> 01:25:05,574 one 5248 01:25:05,644 --> 01:25:06,210 . Any 5249 01:25:06,210 --> 01:25:07,313 questions or thoughts 5250 01:25:07,313 --> 01:25:08,130 ? 5251 01:25:08,130 --> 01:25:08,613 I was actually just going to 5252 01:25:08,613 --> 01:25:09,782 give you a motion. Ok 5253 01:25:09,782 --> 01:25:10,181 , I'd like 5254 01:25:10,181 --> 01:25:10,482 to move to 5255 01:25:10,482 --> 01:25:11,116 approve 5256 01:25:11,116 --> 01:25:12,500 miscellaneous agenda 5257 01:25:12,500 --> 01:25:12,751 item 5258 01:25:12,751 --> 01:25:14,253 number 2, and I will 5259 01:25:14,253 --> 01:25:15,870 second 5260 01:25:15,870 --> 01:25:17,550 that. It is we moved to 2nd to 5261 01:25:17,550 --> 01:25:19,550 approve Miscellane's agenda 5262 01:25:19,391 --> 01:25:19,959 with the 5263 01:25:19,959 --> 01:25:20,826 Chinook Enterprises 5264 01:25:20,826 --> 01:25:21,920 . 5265 01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:21,527 Any 5266 01:25:21,527 --> 01:25:22,161 more 5267 01:25:22,161 --> 01:25:23,629 discussion? All those 5268 01:25:23,629 --> 01:25:24,129 in favor say aye 5269 01:25:24,129 --> 01:25:24,630 . Aye. All 5270 01:25:24,630 --> 01:25:26,980 those opposed 5271 01:25:26,980 --> 01:25:28,980 ? Motion passes 5272 01:25:30,690 --> 01:25:30,336 . 5273 01:25:30,336 --> 01:25:30,970 Um 5274 01:25:30,970 --> 01:25:32,970 , item number 3 5275 01:25:32,971 --> 01:25:33,406 . Resolution 5276 01:25:33,406 --> 01:25:35,400 to call for 5277 01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:35,274 a public hearing 5278 01:25:35,274 --> 01:25:35,708 to 5279 01:25:35,708 --> 01:25:37,609 consider 5280 01:25:37,609 --> 01:25:38,100 testimony regarding, 5281 01:25:38,100 --> 01:25:39,245 excuse me 5282 01:25:39,245 --> 01:25:39,512 . The 5283 01:25:39,512 --> 01:25:39,946 2026 5284 01:25:39,946 --> 01:25:41,747 , 2031 5285 01:25:41,747 --> 01:25:42,515 , 6 5286 01:25:42,515 --> 01:25:43,783 year transportation improvement 5287 01:25:43,783 --> 01:25:44,316 program 5288 01:25:44,316 --> 01:25:45,785 , revision 2 5289 01:25:45,785 --> 01:25:46,552 , public 5290 01:25:46,552 --> 01:25:47,190 hearing is scheduled to take 5291 01:25:47,190 --> 01:25:48,554 place Tuesday 5292 01:25:48,554 --> 01:25:48,750 , SEPTEMBER 15th 5293 01:25:48,750 --> 01:25:48,955 , 5294 01:25:48,955 --> 01:25:50,889 20206 5295 01:25:50,889 --> 01:25:51,157 at 1:45 5296 01:25:51,157 --> 01:25:52,358 or 5297 01:25:52,358 --> 01:25:52,759 soon 5298 01:25:52,759 --> 01:25:52,992 thereafter 5299 01:25:52,992 --> 01:25:53,325 as 5300 01:25:53,325 --> 01:25:53,626 possible the 5301 01:25:53,626 --> 01:25:54,961 county 5302 01:25:54,961 --> 01:25:55,228 commissioner's 5303 01:25:55,228 --> 01:25:55,661 hearing 5304 01:25:55,661 --> 01:25:57,661 room located 5305 01:25:58,970 --> 01:25:58,730 1800 Continental 5306 01:25:58,730 --> 01:25:59,198 Place. Tenants will be 5307 01:25:59,198 --> 01:25:59,766 in 5308 01:25:59,766 --> 01:26:01,367 person or by phone 5309 01:26:01,367 --> 01:26:01,935 . Any 5310 01:26:01,935 --> 01:26:03,903 discussion on that 5311 01:26:03,903 --> 01:26:04,370 ? I'd like to 5312 01:26:04,370 --> 01:26:04,604 make a motion 5313 01:26:04,604 --> 01:26:04,904 to 5314 01:26:04,904 --> 01:26:06,606 approve 5315 01:26:06,606 --> 01:26:06,873 miscellaneous item number 3. 5316 01:26:06,873 --> 01:26:08,608 I'll 5317 01:26:08,608 --> 01:26:09,142 second that. Let's move 5318 01:26:09,142 --> 01:26:09,509 the second 5319 01:26:09,509 --> 01:26:10,410 to approve 5320 01:26:10,410 --> 01:26:11,770 the 5321 01:26:11,770 --> 01:26:11,344 resolution to have a 5322 01:26:11,344 --> 01:26:11,711 public 5323 01:26:11,711 --> 01:26:13,113 hearing 5324 01:26:13,113 --> 01:26:13,980 dealing with the 5325 01:26:13,980 --> 01:26:14,547 six-year transportation 5326 01:26:14,547 --> 01:26:15,814 improvement program 5327 01:26:15,814 --> 01:26:17,814 . Any 5328 01:26:17,984 --> 01:26:18,618 more 5329 01:26:18,618 --> 01:26:18,918 discretion? All those in favor 5330 01:26:18,918 --> 01:26:19,486 say 5331 01:26:19,486 --> 01:26:20,860 aye 5332 01:26:20,860 --> 01:26:20,553 . Aye. All those closed. 5333 01:26:20,553 --> 01:26:22,254 Motion passes 5334 01:26:22,254 --> 01:26:24,890 . Thank you 5335 01:26:24,890 --> 01:26:24,791 . 5336 01:26:24,791 --> 01:26:25,900 Anything else come before us at 5337 01:26:25,900 --> 01:26:26,326 this 5338 01:26:26,326 --> 01:26:26,993 time 5339 01:26:26,993 --> 01:26:27,293 ? So 5340 01:26:27,293 --> 01:26:28,628 with 5341 01:26:28,628 --> 01:26:29,290 that we 5342 01:26:29,290 --> 01:26:29,563 are 5343 01:26:29,563 --> 01:26:30,964 adjourned and 5344 01:26:30,964 --> 01:26:31,565 I believe 5345 01:26:31,565 --> 01:26:31,965 we have 5346 01:26:31,965 --> 01:26:33,000 nothing