[0:13] after 8:30 on
[0:13] SEPTEMBER 8th,
[0:14] call this session
[0:14] County
[0:15] commissioners to
[0:15] order
[0:16] 2026
[0:17] .
[0:17] Please join me in a salute our
[0:17] flag
[0:21] . I
[0:22] pledge allegiance to
[0:22] the
[0:24] flag of the
[0:24] United States
[0:26] of America and to the
[0:26] republic
[0:26] for which
[0:28] it
[0:28] stands, one
[0:28] nation
[0:29] under
[0:30] GOD, indivisible
[0:32] . Liberty
[0:32] and justice
[0:37] . Thank
[0:37] you
[0:38] everybody for being here this
[0:38] morning
[0:39] . Uh
[0:40] , Commissioner Burns
[0:42] is off today, so he will not be
[0:42] joining us
[0:44] , but
[0:44] we have
[0:45] some
[0:45] proclamations here
[0:46] . So Monica,
[0:47] what do we have first
[0:49] ? For the
[0:51] morning commissioners. I'm
[0:51] Aguila
[0:53] , um, so for the
[0:53] first
[0:54] proclamation
[0:55] , we
[0:55] are
[0:55] here to
[0:57] recognize National Recovery
[0:58] Month. Thank you so much
[0:59] for
[1:00] recognizing that with us this
[1:00] morning
[1:01] . Um
[1:02] , for those who
[1:02] might not
[1:03] be familiar
[1:04] , uh,
[1:05] according to the
[1:06] substance
[1:07] abuse and mental health
[1:09] Services Administration or
[1:09] semsa, an estimated
[1:11] 50 million
[1:11] adults in the
[1:13] United
[1:13] States
[1:14] consider themselves in
[1:15] recovery
[1:16] each year. Um
[1:18] , since 1989,
[1:18] recovery Month has
[1:20] been
[1:20] observed
[1:20] each
[1:22] SEPTEMBER as a
[1:22] time to
[1:23] celebrate the
[1:24] progress
[1:25] and successes of uh people
[1:26] in
[1:27] recovery. Um, this is also a
[1:28] time
[1:29] to pause, um, from our day
[1:30] to day
[1:31] . Work
[1:33] and
[1:33] educate
[1:34] ourselves and to
[1:35] bring
[1:36] awareness
[1:36] , um, um, to
[1:38] substance
[1:39] use disorders and mental health
[1:40] and to the
[1:40] reality
[1:41] that
[1:42] recovery
[1:43] is possible
[1:44] . Um, so
[1:45] why are we
[1:45] celebrating
[1:46] and
[1:47] recognizing
[1:49] , um, recovery month
[1:50] formally
[1:51] recognizing this
[1:52] uh um
[1:52] uh event
[1:53] and issuing
[1:54] a
[1:54] proclamation
[1:55] is
[1:56] really an
[1:56] important step
[1:58] in
[1:58] normalizing
[1:59] the conversation around
[1:59] substance use and
[2:00] mental
[2:00] health
[2:01] and recovery
[2:03] , um, and so being
[2:03] able to come here
[2:05] together
[2:05] ,
[2:05] celebrate with you all
[2:07] , um,
[2:07] speaks
[2:08] volumes to the values
[2:09] that each of us
[2:10] work on
[2:11] instilling in
[2:12] our community
[2:14] .
[2:14] Because
[2:16] working together
[2:16] um and
[2:17] normalizing the
[2:18] conversation
[2:19] around addiction, mental health
[2:21] and recovery, we can help
[2:21] reduce
[2:23] the
[2:23] stigma and create an
[2:24] environment
[2:25] where
[2:25] people,
[2:25] especially
[2:26] the
[2:27] younger
[2:28] generations can
[2:29] see recovery
[2:30] as
[2:30] possible
[2:32] , um, and feel
[2:32] supported and have hope for the
[2:33] future
[2:37] . Samsa identifies 4
[2:37] pillars
[2:38] or
[2:39] building blocks
[2:39] to
[2:39] recovery. Uh
[2:41] , those are
[2:41] held,
[2:42] home, purpose
[2:43] , and community
[2:44] . I
[2:44] am
[2:46] really grateful to work in
[2:46] this community
[2:47] where
[2:48] the county
[2:48] as a
[2:50] government entity not
[2:50] only
[2:52] recognizes the recovery month
[2:53] as a symbol or just
[2:55] as values
[2:55] ,
[2:55] but
[2:56] puts that word
[2:57] into
[2:57] action
[2:59] and um I'm very, very
[2:59] grateful
[2:59] that
[3:01] , um, we
[3:02] , um, together
[3:03] are
[3:04] working
[3:05] on
[3:06] supporting the
[3:06] services that are
[3:08] the building
[3:08] blocks
[3:09] to recovery, so I
[3:11] mentioned health, home, purpose
[3:13] and community. These in
[3:13] services are
[3:15] . Translated in
[3:15] recovery
[3:17] housing
[3:17] services
[3:17] and
[3:18] employment
[3:19] and
[3:19] recovery
[3:20] services, um, and so I'm very
[3:21] ,
[3:22] very grateful to be part of
[3:22] this community
[3:23] where
[3:24] we
[3:24] actually support these
[3:26] services
[3:26] so
[3:28] . Um
[3:29] , This
[3:30] year's recovery
[3:31] Month celebration has been
[3:31] organized
[3:33] by the North Star
[3:33] Recovery Task Force
[3:35] , and so
[3:35] with me
[3:35] this morning
[3:37] , um, are
[3:38] members of the
[3:39] various
[3:40] communities that are
[3:40] represented not only on
[3:41] the
[3:42] recovery task force, but also
[3:42] on the
[3:44] housing
[3:44] task force, um,
[3:45] and who are working
[3:46] together
[3:46] with you
[3:47] commissioners in
[3:49] really implementing your vision
[3:49] your actions
[3:50] , and
[3:50] also
[3:51] implementing recovery in our
[3:51] community
[3:53] . So first to speak,
[3:53] I'm
[3:54] gonna invite
[3:55] Alan Mia from
[3:56] the New
[3:57] Earth
[3:58] recovery, um,
[3:58] services to
[4:00] to speak
[4:00] , um
[4:02] . Thank
[4:02] you
[4:04] . Thank you
[4:08] . Good morning.
[4:09] I'm Alan Ya. I'm director of
[4:09] New
[4:11] Earth Recovery
[4:11] . We
[4:13] operate
[4:14] 8 recovery homes here in
[4:15] Skagit
[4:16] Valley and have been
[4:17] , um, just
[4:18] really privileged to do
[4:20] this
[4:20] really important work
[4:21] . There's
[4:21] a
[4:22] lot we
[4:22] could say this morning
[4:23] about people
[4:24] in recovery in
[4:25] our
[4:25] community. We could talk
[4:26] about
[4:27] the
[4:27] , the people who
[4:29] , uh, whose
[4:29] addiction led them
[4:31] to crime
[4:31] and
[4:32] homelessness, and how
[4:33] they
[4:34] do
[4:34] recover and how that when
[4:35] they
[4:36] do recover, um
[4:38] , They're
[4:38] contributing to the systems
[4:39] that they used
[4:40] to take from
[4:41] . Uh
[4:41] they
[4:42] no
[4:43] longer
[4:43] need to
[4:45] be
[4:45] incarcerated. They no longer
[4:46] need to
[4:47] be in regular
[4:47] er visits
[4:48] Instead
[4:49] , they are now
[4:50] paying
[4:50] taxes
[4:51] and
[4:51] they're building,
[4:52] they're kind of rebuilding
[4:53] that
[4:54] safety net. We
[4:54] could talk
[4:56] about
[4:56] how
[4:56] , uh, studies show that
[4:57] people
[4:58] in
[4:59] recovery volunteer at
[4:59] twice
[5:00] the rate of
[5:01] the general
[5:01] population
[5:03] . We could talk
[5:03] about
[5:03] how
[5:03] , uh, how
[5:05] people in recovery
[5:06] as part of their
[5:07] own healing
[5:07] process
[5:08] regularly
[5:09] serve as peer
[5:10] mentors and sponsors
[5:11] . Sponsors
[5:12] to help other people out of
[5:12] addiction
[5:14] . But
[5:14] I don't want to
[5:15] talk about any of those things
[5:16] .
[5:17] Instead, I wanna
[5:18] talk about how
[5:19] we as
[5:19] a
[5:20] community
[5:21] , um, are
[5:22] welcoming people
[5:23] who
[5:23] are coming
[5:23] back to us
[5:25] from usually
[5:26] institutional settings, not
[5:26] always
[5:27] , but coming back to us
[5:28] at least from
[5:30] addiction. I need
[5:30] to say here that I've, I've, uh
[5:31] had some
[5:32] of this conversation
[5:33] with a couple of you and
[5:34] , and
[5:35] with a number of folks in our
[5:37] audience before, but I, but I'm
[5:37] mindful that
[5:39] I've at times left
[5:39] out the punchline, and I want
[5:40] to
[5:41] be sure I get there in the
[5:42] next minute or two
[5:43] . So
[5:43] there
[5:44] are
[5:44] 3 primary
[5:45] ways that we as a
[5:46] community are making a
[5:46] difference in the
[5:48] lives
[5:48] of
[5:48] people
[5:48] in recovery
[5:50] . First of
[5:50] all
[5:50] , relief
[5:52] . We
[5:52] provide
[5:52] shelter
[5:53] and food at
[5:54] first
[5:54] steps and
[5:55] welcome homes gadget
[5:56] , at
[5:57] Friendship House, and at Family
[5:57] Promise
[5:59] . Um
[5:59] , the
[6:00] syringe
[6:01] exchange provides
[6:02] safe
[6:02] supplies
[6:04] in Narcan, so people live long
[6:04] enough
[6:05] to
[6:06] experience recovery
[6:06] ,
[6:07] hugely important
[6:08] . Um
[6:08] , we also
[6:09] do, of course
[6:10] , a
[6:10] lot
[6:10] of relief
[6:11] in our
[6:13] emergency rooms. Um
[6:14] ,
[6:15] rehabilitation happens. This is
[6:16] the second piece is that
[6:16] we
[6:17] spend a lot of resources
[6:17] on
[6:18] rehabilitation
[6:19] , sending people
[6:20] to inpatient
[6:20] and
[6:21] outpatient
[6:22] treatment programs
[6:23] , um, and
[6:24] , uh
[6:24] our newly opened Star Center
[6:26] ,
[6:26] which we all
[6:27] are celebrating
[6:28] ,
[6:28] uh, is will be a huge
[6:29] . Help to
[6:29] people
[6:31] that that
[6:31] rehabilitative
[6:31] journey
[6:33] . And so this is
[6:33] , um,
[6:33] this
[6:35] , this particular kind of
[6:36] arm, uh, is
[6:37] , is the most
[6:38] expensive treatment. Uh, it
[6:38] costs
[6:40] a lot of money to send
[6:40] people to
[6:42] inpatient treatment
[6:42] and, and, and
[6:44] afterward there's
[6:44] sort of a medical clinical
[6:45] components to all
[6:46] that. We also
[6:47] it needs to be said, do
[6:47] , do
[6:49] some rehabilitation in the
[6:51] criminal justice system. So in
[6:52] jails and in prisons
[6:53] , there's
[6:54] some rehabilitation that
[6:54] happens for
[6:55] people. The
[6:57] arm of,
[6:58] of, of what we do is
[6:58] development
[7:00] . Um, and this
[7:01] happens alongside
[7:02] and
[7:02] after
[7:03] rehabilitation. It happens
[7:04] , um,
[7:04] when, when people are working
[7:05] hard to rebuild
[7:06] their
[7:07] lives by
[7:07] going to school
[7:08] or
[7:09] by
[7:09] learning
[7:09] new, nenenenenenenenene
[7:11] trades
[7:11] ,
[7:11] getting a job
[7:12] , paying
[7:13] off
[7:13] debts
[7:13] um
[7:16] . Relearning how to be
[7:16] in
[7:18] healthy relationships and
[7:19] figuring out how they want
[7:20] to
[7:20] contribute
[7:21] to society
[7:22] . So this
[7:22] is
[7:23] what happens in
[7:23] recovery
[7:23] homes
[7:25] is what happens in the
[7:25] recovery cafe is
[7:27] what happens
[7:27] in our
[7:27] local
[7:28] community
[7:29] college
[7:29] and
[7:30] uh and in
[7:31] supported
[7:31] employment when employers take
[7:32] the time and
[7:33] effort to go the
[7:34] extra mile to help
[7:35] somebody
[7:36] relearn those skills. So
[7:38] here's
[7:39] the punchline I talked about,
[7:39] which I think is
[7:40] really
[7:40] important
[7:41] , is that, um
[7:43] , That
[7:44] a
[7:45] community that supports all
[7:45] three of
[7:47] these arms, all three
[7:47] of these kind
[7:49] of components
[7:49] , um
[7:50] will make a
[7:50] huge difference
[7:51] in
[7:52] the lives of people in recovery
[7:54] and an investment in
[7:55] the
[7:56] development piece of that will
[7:57] keep us from having
[7:58] to do
[7:58] the
[7:59] other two over and over and
[8:01] over again. The more
[8:01] development we do
[8:03] , the more,
[8:03] the less we have to do relief
[8:05] and the less we have to
[8:06] do
[8:06] rehabilitation
[8:07] of the same
[8:08] folks over and over
[8:09] . So
[8:09] I am
[8:10] ,
[8:10] uh, as Monica mentioned
[8:11] , we are
[8:12] so privileged to live in. In a
[8:14] community where that is
[8:15] recognized and
[8:17] where efforts
[8:17] like ours in
[8:18] , in, in
[8:18] , uh, in
[8:19] housing and in the
[8:20] recovery
[8:21] cafe and another kind of
[8:21] development
[8:23] efforts
[8:23] are
[8:25] hugely
[8:26] supported, and I, I
[8:26] have
[8:26] colleagues
[8:27] around the state who
[8:28] look at us and say, wow
[8:29] , uh,
[8:30] that you, that your community
[8:31] supports you
[8:32] in
[8:32] that way
[8:32] is, is
[8:33] huge. And so
[8:34] , uh, and as a
[8:35] result, there are
[8:36] , there are
[8:37] hundreds of people
[8:37] whose
[8:37] stories
[8:39] are different and
[8:39] changed because of, of
[8:41] your
[8:42] support for recovery in the
[8:42] community
[8:43] . And
[8:44] , and then all
[8:44] the rest of us who
[8:45] kind of help
[8:46] out in that in that
[8:47] effort. So
[8:48] thank you for all of that in
[8:48] advance
[8:50] . I'm gonna turn it over
[8:51] to, I think Sean is
[8:52] next to
[8:53] talk about the recovery cafe
[8:55] .
[8:55] Thank you, Alan
[8:59] . Good
[9:00] morning
[9:01] ,
[9:01] commissioners. Uh, my name is
[9:02] Sean Howard
[9:04] . I'm the executive
[9:05] director for the Recovery Cafe
[9:06] here in Mount Vernon. Uh
[9:06] ,
[9:07] wanted to give
[9:08] a
[9:08] quick update
[9:09] on the cafe and where we're
[9:10] at
[9:10] ,
[9:11] but also just talk about
[9:12] what
[9:13] Northstar has been able to
[9:13] accomplish
[9:15] , uh, for
[9:15] . So
[9:15] in
[9:17] most
[9:18] communities, uh, at least
[9:19] in
[9:20] the conversations I've had with
[9:20] other EDs across
[9:21] the
[9:21] nation.
[9:22] Most of the cafes work very
[9:22] much
[9:24] in
[9:24] isolation
[9:26] , very siloed.
[9:26] They don't have a lot of work
[9:27] with their county
[9:28] government,
[9:29] with their city government. And
[9:29] when I came
[9:30] here
[9:31] from Texas, it
[9:31] was just the complete opposite
[9:33] of that. It
[9:33] was immediate that
[9:33] the
[9:35] commissioners cared that
[9:36] the city council
[9:37] members cared
[9:37] ,
[9:38] um, and that there was
[9:39] this
[9:40] realization that this work
[9:40] could not be done
[9:42] in isolation.
[9:42] Um
[9:44] , so through the
[9:44] recovery
[9:45] task force, through NorthStar,
[9:45] we
[9:46] have been able to
[9:47] create
[9:47] partnerships with
[9:48] such
[9:48] great
[9:49] organizations like Cascade
[9:50] Job
[9:51] Corps, going out there and
[9:52] providing services to
[9:53] those
[9:53] kids who have had their
[9:54] services cut. We've
[9:55] been able
[9:56] to go to community court and
[9:56] establish
[9:58] a voucher program
[9:58] there, work very closely with
[9:59] them. Same with drug
[10:00] . Court
[10:02] , um
[10:02] and just many other
[10:03] partnerships which I could
[10:04] highlight with New Earth
[10:05] recovery, with
[10:06] rise
[10:07] recovery,
[10:07] um, and it's just this
[10:09] . Great
[10:10] way
[10:11] of
[10:12] bringing things together
[10:13] and we're able to share ideas
[10:13] ,
[10:13] we're able to
[10:16] tandem. So on top
[10:16] of that
[10:17] , in
[10:18] 2025, uh, through a
[10:19] lot of those partnerships
[10:20] , we
[10:20] were able to get
[10:21] over
[10:22] 10,000
[10:22] meals and visits for the
[10:23] first
[10:23] time
[10:24] , um, we
[10:24] are
[10:25] now
[10:25] up
[10:27] to
[10:27] roughly 12 to
[10:27] 13
[10:28] recovery
[10:29] circles support groups at any
[10:30] given time
[10:31] . We
[10:32] have over 600
[10:32] people do
[10:34] those circles. So
[10:34] it's really growing and moving
[10:35] at
[10:36] the cafe. We
[10:36] are just
[10:37] trying
[10:37] to
[10:38] continue to be a space for
[10:38] safe
[10:39] . Sober
[10:40] Friday
[10:40] nights and
[10:41] continuing to
[10:43] just grow, our
[10:43] hope is again to get to that 7
[10:45] days a week, have that safe and
[10:46] sober community
[10:47] for people, um
[10:49] .
[10:50] And then I think I wanted to
[10:50] close just
[10:52] with a thing that we
[10:52] are looking at at the
[10:54] cafe
[10:54] is
[10:55] very much
[10:56] recovery from
[10:57] substance use is still front of
[10:57] mind for all
[10:58] of us, but
[10:58] looking
[10:59] at how are people
[11:00] recovering
[11:01] from mental health? How are
[11:03] people
[11:03] handling what the
[11:05] former
[11:05] Surgeon General Vivek Murthy
[11:06] called the
[11:07] loneliness epidemic.
[11:08] I think the researchers
[11:09] is
[11:10] clear and continues to
[11:10] be very
[11:10] clear
[11:12] that those
[11:12] that
[11:13] disconnection that we
[11:14] have in
[11:15] our community is really one of
[11:15] the
[11:16] driving
[11:16] forces
[11:17] behind
[11:17] people picking up substances
[11:18] behind
[11:19] . Kind people suffering
[11:20] from
[11:21] mental health. So I just
[11:22] encourage
[11:23] the county
[11:23] , um, and
[11:24] everybody here to continue to
[11:26] look at how are we addressing
[11:26] that loneliness
[11:27] and
[11:28] getting
[11:28] people off of their phones
[11:29] , off
[11:30] of their couches
[11:31] , and into
[11:32] community
[11:33] , into something that
[11:35] is bigger than them, a third
[11:35] space
[11:36] , so thank you,
[11:37] commissioners, and I'm passing
[11:37] it off
[11:39] to Nora and Tina
[11:41] , I
[11:41] think
[11:50] . Hi
[11:53] , I'm Nora Peterson
[11:53] from the Cedar Wooley
[11:54] City
[11:55] Council, and
[11:55] this is
[11:57] Tina Tate
[11:57] ,
[11:58] uh, the executive director
[11:59] of
[11:59] Habitat for Humanity, but
[12:00] more
[12:01] importantly, one of my
[12:02] neighbors in
[12:03] Ward 3
[12:04] , in
[12:04] Cedar
[12:06] Wooley. I wanna thank you
[12:06] for
[12:07] doing
[12:09] this proclamation
[12:10] , um,
[12:10] this month for
[12:11] recovery month
[12:11] and for
[12:13] inviting us to share
[12:13] what's happening in our
[12:15] community in Cedra Wooley
[12:17] , uh,
[12:17] to support this nationwide
[12:18] effort
[12:19] . Earlier this year, Tina
[12:20] and I attended the North Star
[12:22] .
[12:23] Our symposium where
[12:24] we got
[12:24] to
[12:24] talking
[12:25] about
[12:26] organizing a
[12:27] recovery walk in Cedar
[12:28] Wooley
[12:28] .
[12:29] We had just seen an
[12:30] amazing
[12:31] presentation about a similar
[12:31] event
[12:33] , much
[12:33] larger, thousands
[12:34] of people
[12:35] in Philadelphia, and
[12:36] I was
[12:37] just
[12:38] so excited to bring
[12:38] that idea home
[12:40] . I
[12:40] mentioned it
[12:40] to
[12:42] Tina
[12:42] , and
[12:42] If
[12:43] you know
[12:44] anything
[12:44] about Tina
[12:46] . The next
[12:47] thing we had
[12:48] was
[12:49] a committee
[12:49] ,
[12:49] an
[12:49] agenda
[12:51] , a
[12:51] marketing plan
[12:52] with the support
[12:53] of
[12:53] hospitals
[12:53] District 304, we
[12:54] were able
[12:55] to
[12:55] get some really
[12:56] cool t-shirts
[12:58] .
[12:58] And, uh, Tina reached out
[13:00] to a
[13:00] few people who are prominent in
[13:01] the
[13:02] recovery community to speak
[13:03] at
[13:05] the event. I'm just so
[13:05] grateful for all of
[13:06] the
[13:06] people
[13:07] who have donated their time
[13:10] and
[13:11] resources to this effort. It's
[13:11] been really amazing to get
[13:12] together
[13:14] with folks from within
[13:14] our community in
[13:16] Cedar Wooley
[13:16] to support
[13:17] and celebrate those
[13:18] who are
[13:19] in recovery
[13:20] . This
[13:20] event
[13:21] is really important
[13:22] to me
[13:23] because I feel like my
[13:23] generation really got
[13:25] the short
[13:25] end of the stick with the whole
[13:26] opioid thing
[13:28] . So many people
[13:29] my
[13:29] age first
[13:30] encountered opioids
[13:32] after a sports injury as kids,
[13:32] they trusted
[13:33] their doctors,
[13:34] they trusted
[13:35] their parents
[13:36] . And
[13:37] then now they have to face a
[13:38] really hard
[13:38] road at no fault of
[13:39] their own
[13:41] . Growing up and even
[13:41] as
[13:42] an
[13:43] adult
[13:43] , these
[13:43] drugs were
[13:43] just
[13:45] too accessible
[13:45] . It created
[13:46] problems
[13:47] for
[13:47] individuals,
[13:48] families, and whole communities
[13:50] And it takes a
[13:51] whole
[13:52] community
[13:52] approach to address the harm
[13:53] caused by
[13:54] the opioid crisis
[13:56] .
[13:57] Addiction has taken so many in
[13:59] our community, but together as
[14:01] a society, we're turning
[14:01] things
[14:03] around. We sued the
[14:04] pharmaceutical companies
[14:05] , and
[14:06] then there was more money
[14:07] for
[14:07] facilities
[14:08] , treatment
[14:08] facilities like the sar Center
[14:10] in
[14:11] Cedar Wooley with North
[14:12] Star
[14:12] jurisdictions are coming
[14:13] together to
[14:14] coordinate
[14:15] wraparound services and
[14:15] policies
[14:16] that
[14:17] address these
[14:17] complex needs
[14:18] . We
[14:19] need this
[14:19] kind
[14:21] of
[14:21] community-based
[14:22] solution to get
[14:23] at the heart of
[14:24] the problem. And that's
[14:25] starts
[14:26] with raising awareness
[14:27] around
[14:28] recovery. That's why we're
[14:28] doing this
[14:30] recovery walk. I
[14:30] want to live in a
[14:32] town
[14:32] where
[14:33] everyone is really proud to
[14:35] celebrate recovery and their
[14:35] families, in
[14:36] their
[14:37] neighborhoods, at work
[14:37] , at
[14:38] home
[14:39] Recovery is a
[14:39] big
[14:40] accomplishment
[14:41] , not just for
[14:42] the individual, but for the
[14:42] community
[14:43] as
[14:43] a
[14:44] whole
[14:44] . My hope
[14:44] is that
[14:45] in
[14:46] 20 years, we can
[14:47] read about
[14:48] the
[14:48] opioid crisis in
[14:49] history
[14:50] books and see it
[14:51] as an
[14:51] event that
[14:52] was tragic
[14:53] , but
[14:53] time
[14:54] bound, and something that
[14:55] Taught us about
[14:55] who we are
[14:56] as
[14:57] people
[14:58] . And before
[14:59] I finish, I
[15:00] just want to say some of the
[15:00] names of the folks
[15:01] who have
[15:02] made this walk possible. Of
[15:02] course
[15:04] , Tina Tate, Paul
[15:04] and
[15:05] Diane Cock
[15:07] , Linda Crothers
[15:08] , uh,
[15:09] Monty Thompson, Rachel and
[15:10] Alan
[15:10] from New
[15:11] Earth
[15:11] Recovery
[15:13] ,
[15:13] Monique Bingham, and of course
[15:15] our speakers, Lisa Jannicki
[15:15] ,
[15:16] Kevin
[15:17] Riley, and
[15:18] Kay Knott.
[15:18] It's
[15:19] just been, oh
[15:20] , and
[15:20] hospital, the
[15:22] hospital district
[15:22] because we got our cool shirts
[15:24] ,
[15:24] um, it's just been such an
[15:25] uplifting
[15:26] thing to work with
[15:27] all these neighbors to put
[15:29] together a homegrown event
[15:29] like
[15:29] this
[15:31] , and we hope that you can
[15:32] join us on
[15:33] the
[15:33] 12th for
[15:33] our
[15:34] Cedra Wooley walk
[15:35] for recovery
[15:35] .
[15:36] And I just
[15:37] want to
[15:38] say um just
[15:38] a couple of things
[15:40] , uh,
[15:41] recovery
[15:42] , people
[15:42] in recovery,
[15:43] make
[15:44] a
[15:45] stronger community
[15:45] , so
[15:45] our
[15:47] tagline is a
[15:47] step toward a
[15:49] stronger community. I
[15:49] am
[15:51] 22
[15:51] years
[15:51] in
[15:52] recovery and very
[15:54] proud to live in Cedar
[15:54] Wooley
[15:55] ,
[15:56] and there's so many others in
[15:57] Cedra Wooley, and
[15:58] we need to
[15:59] come together as a community
[16:00] and make sure
[16:01] that we
[16:02] are
[16:02] making a
[16:03] stronger community
[16:04] by
[16:05] embracing others that are in
[16:05] recovery as well
[16:07] . A
[16:07] little more
[16:09] details on that walk
[16:09] , SEPTEMBER
[16:10] 12th
[16:11] , SEPTEMBER 12th, yes
[16:12] ,
[16:12] SEPTEMBER 12th
[16:13] , we
[16:13] are
[16:14] meeting
[16:14] at
[16:14] 10:00
[16:16] A.M. In the, if you
[16:16] know Cedra willy
[16:18] , the old Ford
[16:19] car lot
[16:20] on Ferry Street. It's a
[16:21] big open lot. We'll be out
[16:21] there
[16:22] . You'll see us
[16:23] , um, and
[16:23] then the walk
[16:25] is about 2
[16:25] miles
[16:25] long and we're
[16:27] gonna end at
[16:28] Hammer Heritage Square, where
[16:29] we will have our speakers
[16:31] . Very
[16:32] good
[16:32] . Thank
[16:32] you
[16:36] No
[16:38] . Anybody
[16:39] else
[16:43] ? Oh
[16:45] . I'm
[16:46] Judge
[16:47] Jennifer
[16:48] Hausen, and I am on the
[16:48] recovery task force
[16:50] and
[16:50] also
[16:51] preside over
[16:52] the Mount
[16:52] Vernon
[16:53] Municipal
[16:54] Court Community Court
[16:54] and we
[16:56] also
[16:56] recognized Jeff
[16:57] McCann, who's the city of
[16:59] Mount
[16:59] Vernon prosecutor
[17:01] , and he
[17:01] , uh,
[17:01] expertly handles the
[17:03] community
[17:03] court in the city of Mount
[17:04] Vernon, which happens to
[17:05] be
[17:05] very
[17:06] , very
[17:06] large
[17:07] robust. It is
[17:08] over half
[17:08] of our
[17:10] entire
[17:10] calendar in the city of Mount
[17:11] Vernon
[17:12] , we
[17:12] have hundreds of
[17:13] people
[17:14] that participate in
[17:15] successfully
[17:17] . Graduate and it's
[17:17] thanks to
[17:18] the
[17:19] partnership of
[17:19] all of these folks
[17:21] here
[17:21] working
[17:21] together
[17:23] . And funding
[17:24] from
[17:24] state
[17:26] and from the
[17:26] county, and
[17:26] we're
[17:28] really grateful every
[17:28] single
[17:30] week, MR. McCann
[17:30] and
[17:31] I
[17:31] witness
[17:33] a
[17:34] recovery working
[17:34] , and
[17:35] we see over
[17:35] 5 graduates
[17:37] a week
[17:37] in
[17:39] our
[17:39] uh program and they're
[17:40] staying successful
[17:41] . So it's
[17:42] through partnerships with all
[17:42] of these
[17:43] folks that we're
[17:44] making it work on a daily basis
[17:44] Thank you
[17:46] . Can you go over a
[17:47] little bit more how that
[17:48] The
[17:49] court system works, not
[17:50] everybody watching understands
[17:51] how that works, so
[17:53] just
[17:54] preliminary community court in
[17:54] Skagit County is
[17:55] a diversion
[17:55] court away from the
[17:57] criminal
[17:57] justice system. It's held in
[17:58] the community
[17:59] court building on
[18:00] College Way
[18:02] , uh, eligible
[18:02] charges are
[18:04] folks charged
[18:04] with
[18:05] shoplifting
[18:06] , uh, trespass
[18:06] ,
[18:07] disorderly conduct
[18:08] ,
[18:09] misdemeanors, and drug
[18:09] possession. So
[18:10] it
[18:11] is our drug
[18:11] court at this time
[18:13] since
[18:13] drug
[18:14] charges are misdemeanors at
[18:15] this time
[18:15] . And
[18:16] so
[18:17] we intervene
[18:18] at the first hearing. Caring
[18:18] for
[18:20] those individuals and
[18:20] provide
[18:22] services
[18:22] , mental health
[18:22] treatment
[18:24] , uh, housing
[18:24] . Uh
[18:26] , and
[18:27] substance treatment
[18:28] and so if
[18:29] people are successful in that
[18:29] program
[18:30] , we
[18:31] monitor them and
[18:31] hold
[18:32] them accountable
[18:33] over the
[18:34] course of lengthening times
[18:35] like a
[18:36] months
[18:38] and then the goal
[18:38] is to have no
[18:38] new
[18:40] charges and
[18:40] to
[18:41] be successfully be engaged
[18:43] in treatment
[18:43] and recovery and
[18:44] be housed
[18:45] , so it
[18:47] , not everybody
[18:47] understands that monitoring
[18:49] program and the things they
[18:50] have to do because if
[18:51] they
[18:51] don't do it
[18:52] , they're out
[18:53] ,
[18:54] correct? Yes, correct. They
[18:54] have to show
[18:55] . Up for
[18:55] review
[18:56] hearings, they have to stay in
[18:57] contact with
[18:58] their
[18:58] probation
[18:59] officer on a monthly
[19:00] basis
[19:00] .
[19:01] They have to attend
[19:02] the
[19:03] evaluation right away as soon
[19:03] as they
[19:05] enter the program, and
[19:05] they have to attend
[19:07] a resource
[19:07] clinic. They
[19:09] have to uh
[19:09] Attend
[19:10] all their
[19:11] treatment classes,
[19:12] stay clean off drugs and
[19:12] alcohol
[19:14] and stay off
[19:14] of
[19:14] charges
[19:16] not commit any new charges, so
[19:16] they're
[19:18] monitored by
[19:19] probation
[19:19] officers, but
[19:20] they're also
[19:21] tested too sometimes, correct,
[19:21] they are
[19:23] , yes. So it's not
[19:24] just
[19:25] a do this program
[19:25] , no problem.
[19:26] You've
[19:27] got to do a lot of it
[19:28] .
[19:28] It's actually far
[19:29] more intense
[19:30] than the regular system which
[19:30] has
[19:31] no
[19:32] supervision or
[19:32] accountability
[19:34] , correct
[19:34] ? Thank
[19:35] you very much for bringing that
[19:37] up
[19:37] . Pardon
[19:38] or support
[19:41] . Anybody
[19:41] else
[19:45] ? Commissioner Browning,
[19:46] any comments
[19:48] ? A lot of you
[19:48] know
[19:50] I've been involved in a lot
[19:50] of
[19:50] the recovery
[19:52] stuff
[19:52] since
[19:52] the
[19:53] mid-eighties
[19:54] . And in those days
[19:55] it
[19:56] was inefficient, inefficient
[19:57] We didn't
[19:57] have what
[19:58] Alan has
[19:59] brought to our community, the
[20:01] long
[20:01] term recovery that we
[20:03] get
[20:03] people clean
[20:04] , sober
[20:04] to some
[20:04] degree. They go back to
[20:05] the
[20:06] neighborhoods, go back to their
[20:07] friends, and they're back
[20:07] in
[20:08] the
[20:08] streets immediately
[20:10] . And so
[20:10] what you've, Alan, brought to
[20:11] this community
[20:12] is immeasurable.
[20:13] It has so
[20:13] much
[20:14] value
[20:14] , and Sean,
[20:15] what you're doing, just giving
[20:16] a community
[20:17] , there's so much
[20:17] work right now on kind of
[20:19] happiness and being able to
[20:20] function in life and it has so
[20:20] much
[20:21] to do with friends and
[20:22] people you can hang out with
[20:22] and, and
[20:25] . Get relationships
[20:26] with and
[20:26] so what you two are
[20:28] doing is, is what brings us
[20:29] from just a
[20:30] recovery program
[20:31] that a lot of people can
[20:32] go
[20:33] through and
[20:33] have a couple of
[20:34] months
[20:35] of sobriety and then
[20:35] something will trigger them.
[20:36] Yours
[20:37] is what keeps that from
[20:38] happening
[20:39] and really it's so,
[20:40] so important and I'm really
[20:40] proud of this
[20:41] community for
[20:42] having. We
[20:42] need more. We
[20:44] certainly need more because we
[20:45] still have people going back to
[20:45] their neighborhoods
[20:46] and
[20:46] their
[20:47] friends and ending up where
[20:49] they started. We have to get
[20:49] better about
[20:50] the recovery, so
[20:51] I
[20:51] really appreciate the work
[20:53] you're doing. Noran Tina. Thank
[20:53] you
[20:55] . That's
[20:55] uh getting to
[20:57] some
[20:57] visibility, that's, that's all
[20:58] get out and walk and, and get
[21:00] people recognizing that it is
[21:01] neighbors and friends
[21:02] . It's not
[21:02] somebody that you don't know
[21:03] and somebody who
[21:04] you're not
[21:05] necessarily proud to have
[21:06] in
[21:06] your community, but people who
[21:07] you care about that are
[21:08] in
[21:09] those on those walks that are
[21:09] some in
[21:11] some version of
[21:11] recovery. It's really
[21:13] important
[21:13] to make it
[21:13] . To
[21:14] make it real for
[21:15] people that recovery is among
[21:16] us all
[21:18] the time, successful
[21:19] and
[21:20] unsuccessful successful, but
[21:20] again, back to
[21:22] Alan and Sean,
[21:23] you guys exactly what we need
[21:23] to
[21:24] create a good
[21:25] long standing
[21:25] recovery program
[21:27] , so thank you
[21:28] .
[21:29] Yeah, I'd also like to thank
[21:30] you all for being here today
[21:31] ,
[21:31] and I think we live
[21:33] in a kind
[21:33] of a
[21:34] medium sized
[21:35] county
[21:36] community and so we still know
[21:36] each other. We have
[21:37] family
[21:38] connections, friends and
[21:39] neighbors connections, and I
[21:40] think that helps make this go
[21:41] forward and
[21:42] working
[21:43] successfully North Star has
[21:43] been able to come
[21:44] together and
[21:45] give them the opportunity for
[21:45] people who
[21:46] are
[21:47] wanting to um
[21:47] work on
[21:49] these community issues
[21:49] to go
[21:50] forward
[21:51] and
[21:51] get solutions
[21:52] to, um, you know
[21:53] , Alan
[21:53] , you
[21:54] brought up some of the
[21:55] issues
[21:56] that not every part of the
[21:57] country is dealing with the
[21:57] same way
[21:59] . As we are and that
[21:59] because
[22:00] of
[22:00] our
[22:01] smallest and how
[22:01] we're able
[22:02] to
[22:03] work together, um
[22:03] you know, Sean
[22:04] , you're talking
[22:05] about the recovery cafe. We
[22:06] were able to go
[22:07] down to Olympia
[22:08] and get some funding
[22:09] to
[22:09] help
[22:10] with the purchase of the
[22:10] building there
[22:11] so those kind of
[22:12] things don't happen without
[22:12] community
[22:14] coming together and
[22:14] working together
[22:16] and showing
[22:17] the people in Olympia that this
[22:17] was really
[22:18] important for us in
[22:19] Sskogee County, and
[22:20] i really
[22:21] appreciate that
[22:21] and
[22:23] um Nora and
[22:24] uh Tina, you know, it's
[22:25] great
[22:25] to
[22:26] have people come
[22:27] together
[22:28] and understand that there are
[22:28] issues going on in
[22:29] the
[22:30] community, but we can work
[22:30] together and help
[22:31] solve
[22:32] those
[22:32] problems and
[22:32] just
[22:34] having the
[22:34] walk and doing
[22:35] that like Dora
[22:35] said
[22:36] , it just, you
[22:36] come
[22:37] together, we want to do
[22:38] this
[22:38] ,
[22:39] uh, so see the Willie, we're
[22:39] gonna have a great
[22:41] , um, little
[22:41] walk event
[22:44] , uh, has some good
[22:44] speakers. I really do
[22:45] appreciate all the time and
[22:46] effort to do it
[22:46] and
[22:47] the
[22:48] community court, Jennifer
[22:48] , uh,
[22:49] you and everybody
[22:50] else in your
[22:51] staff are doing a great job and
[22:52] that's what people
[22:52] don't
[22:53] realize that it's not
[22:54] just
[22:55] giving people the free pass.
[22:55] There are things
[22:56] they have to
[22:57] do along the way to be
[22:59] .
[22:59] Successful, and if they aren't
[23:00] able to do that
[23:01] , then they get
[23:02] those charges and they
[23:03] go to
[23:04] the regular justice system. So
[23:06] that's what people
[23:06] don't
[23:06] realize all the time
[23:08] . We're
[23:08] doing this work, but it's just
[23:09] to
[23:10] help
[23:11] people to be successful
[23:11] in the
[23:12] recovery and
[23:13] move
[23:13] forward afterwards. So
[23:15] , um, I
[23:15] thank you for all the time and
[23:16] effort and
[23:17] everybody's working
[23:17] so hard on these programs in
[23:19] Skagie County
[23:22] . You have the
[23:23] I
[23:24] have not seen it. You haven't
[23:25] seen it
[23:26] , but I'm about to
[23:29] . Well
[23:30] this
[23:31] is without a chance to
[23:31] uh
[23:31] warm up
[23:33] and make sure I
[23:33] can
[23:33] pronounce all the words, but
[23:36] we'll go ahead anyway
[23:36] , so
[23:37] , all
[23:37] right
[23:38] , whereas behavioral
[23:38] health is
[23:39] an essential part of
[23:40] overall health
[23:41] and wellness and
[23:42] substance use and mental health
[23:43] disorders
[23:44] are treatable
[23:44] . Health
[23:45] conditions from
[23:46] which people
[23:46] can and
[23:47] do
[23:48] recover and
[23:48] whereas
[23:49] substance use and mental
[23:51] health
[23:51] challenges affect individuals,
[23:52] families
[23:53] , workplaces
[23:53] , schools
[23:55] ,
[23:55] and communities across every
[23:56] region and background
[23:57] . And
[23:58] whereas recovery
[23:59] from
[24:00] behavioral health disorders is
[24:02] strengthened by access
[24:02] to
[24:03] evidence-based treatment
[24:04] , peer
[24:04] support
[24:05] , harm reduction
[24:06] , stable
[24:07] housing
[24:07] , employment
[24:07] opportunities
[24:08] , family and
[24:09] community connection, and
[24:11] public
[24:11] policies that reduce
[24:13] barriers
[24:14] to care, and whereas
[24:16] Gadget County through the North
[24:16] Star Collaborative and
[24:17] strong
[24:18] partnerships with healthcare
[24:18] providers
[24:20] , community
[24:21] organizations, tribal
[24:22] nations
[24:22] ,
[24:23] first responders, schools, and
[24:25] other regional partners is
[24:25] working
[24:27] to expand access to
[24:29] .
[24:29] Recovery-oriented services,
[24:30] strengthening the behavioral
[24:32] health system and improve
[24:33] outcomes for individuals and
[24:34] families across
[24:36] our community
[24:36] and whereas
[24:37] stigma remains
[24:38] one
[24:38] of the
[24:38] greatest
[24:40] barriers
[24:41] preventing people from helping
[24:41] ,
[24:41] help
[24:43] help, addressing treatment
[24:43] and sustaining
[24:45] recovery, and
[24:45] whereas society
[24:47] is stronger and
[24:47] healthier when people in
[24:48] recovery
[24:49] are supported by the
[24:50] community and people
[24:51] in
[24:52] recovery serving in every
[24:52] sector
[24:54] of society as
[24:54] business
[24:54] leaders
[24:55] , public servants
[24:56] ,
[24:56] community leaders, and more
[24:58] .
[24:59] Whereas policymakers can
[25:01] support recovery by listening
[25:01] to people with lived
[25:03] experience
[25:03] expanding access
[25:05] to care,
[25:05] investing
[25:05] in
[25:06] recovery
[25:07] support
[25:07] services
[25:08] using
[25:08] recovery
[25:10] friendly language to
[25:10] reduce
[25:12] stigma stigma and
[25:12] and
[25:12] advancing
[25:13] policies that
[25:14] help
[25:14] people build
[25:14] their lives
[25:15] with dignity
[25:16] and
[25:16] support
[25:17] . And
[25:19] whereas recovery
[25:20] Month promotes
[25:21] evidence-based
[25:21] treatment and recovery pathways
[25:23] and provides opportunities to
[25:24] celebrate people
[25:25] in
[25:25] recovery,
[25:26] those who have lost and
[25:27] support
[25:28] families and loved ones
[25:29] , and
[25:30] whereas we affirm, reaffirm
[25:32] our
[25:33] commitment to ensuring
[25:34] every
[25:35] Skagittonian has the resources
[25:36] they need to recover
[25:37] and
[25:37] thrive
[25:37] Now
[25:39] , therefore, be
[25:39] resolved
[25:39] that we, the
[25:41] Skagic County
[25:42] Board of County Commissioners
[25:43] do
[25:43] hereby proclaim
[25:44] SEPTEMBER
[25:46] 26th as recovery month in
[25:46] Skagit County
[25:48] . Signed this day
[25:48] of
[25:50] SEPTEMBER 2006
[25:50] , so moved,
[25:51] and I
[25:52] will
[25:53] say that. It is a
[25:54] move
[25:55] to
[25:57] proclaim SEPTEMBER is
[25:58] recovery month in Skagit
[25:59] County
[25:59] Is there any more discussion
[26:01] ?
[26:02] All those in favor say
[26:02] aye
[26:03] , aye
[26:04] All those opposed
[26:04] , motion
[26:04] passes
[26:06] . Thank you very much
[26:11] . We
[26:12] have
[26:13] another proclamation to do
[26:13] I don't know
[26:15] if this group
[26:15] wants to
[26:15] leave or you want
[26:17] to
[26:17] stay, um
[26:19] . Not
[26:20] not
[26:20] . It's flood
[26:21] Awareness
[26:21] week
[26:21] , so very, thank
[26:22] you very much for all coming in
[26:24] I appreciate
[26:27] that. Let's
[26:28] go
[26:28] ahead and take a 5
[26:29] minute break
[26:29] and we'll take
[26:30] some pictures.
[26:31] Ok. So, with that, we're
[26:31] adjourned for
[26:33] 5 minutes. Thank
[26:33] you. I
[26:35] ok
[26:37] . Sorry
[28:57] . Good morning.
[28:58] I call
[28:59] this
[28:59] sessions County
[29:00] commissioners back to order.
[29:00] It's a
[29:01] little
[29:02] after 9
[29:04] o'clock
[29:04] on
[29:04] SEPTEMBER 8th
[29:06] , 2026
[29:06] , we are
[29:06] here for
[29:08] a
[29:08] proclamation dealing
[29:08] with
[29:10] the
[29:10] 2026
[29:11] flood Awareness
[29:11] Week
[29:13] . Julie, what do you have
[29:13] for us? Good morning,
[29:14] commissioners
[29:15] . Will flood
[29:15] Awareness Week
[29:17] this year
[29:17] is
[29:18] SEPTEMBER 14th through
[29:19] the 18th
[29:20] We've moved it up a bit to give
[29:20] us
[29:21] more time
[29:22] to be aware
[29:22] and
[29:22] prepare
[29:25] , uh, before we
[29:26] read
[29:27] today's proclamation, I want
[29:29] emphasize that
[29:29] preparedness is
[29:31] a system. It
[29:31] takes all of
[29:31] us
[29:33] from first responders to
[29:33] public
[29:34] works
[29:35] , local
[29:36] governments, our
[29:36] dike
[29:37] and
[29:38] drainage districts and
[29:38] most importantly
[29:40] , our community
[29:42] For residents preparedness
[29:43] starts with
[29:44] the
[29:44] understanding
[29:45] and
[29:46] with understanding the
[29:47] nuances of where
[29:47] you live and
[29:49] the risks
[29:49] around you
[29:50] . Every
[29:51] time it floods
[29:51] , the
[29:53] river
[29:54] changes. If it hasn't flooded
[29:55] at
[29:55] your home
[29:56] or property before
[29:56] that
[29:58] doesn't mean that it won't
[29:59] flood there in the future
[30:00] . Um
[30:02] ,
[30:02] and while
[30:02] we
[30:03] understandably
[30:04] focus a great deal on
[30:05] the
[30:05] Skagit River
[30:07] , we also
[30:07] need to
[30:08] understand the
[30:09] risks associated
[30:09] with other rivers
[30:11] and
[30:12] tributaries throughout the
[30:12] county, such as
[30:13] the Sauk and
[30:14] the Samish, and we
[30:15] also need to
[30:16] be aware of the
[30:17] levels
[30:18] of water
[30:18] in each of
[30:18] our
[30:20] reservoirs
[30:20] ,
[30:20] whether
[30:21] it's
[30:22] Judy Lake or
[30:23] if
[30:23] it's um Big lake
[30:25] , you just need
[30:25] to be aware of
[30:26] the
[30:27] waterways
[30:27] around you
[30:29] . We ask
[30:29] every
[30:30] household to be prepared
[30:31] to
[30:32] take care of themselves for up
[30:32] to
[30:33] 2
[30:34] weeks following
[30:36] a disaster
[30:36] and to know
[30:37] the risks
[30:38] , know
[30:38] how
[30:38] to
[30:39] receive warnings and
[30:40] to
[30:40] have
[30:41] supplies and plans
[30:42] that your
[30:43] family will need
[30:45] . We're
[30:45] also
[30:46] continuing to
[30:47] improve the
[30:47] information available to
[30:48] communities
[30:49] and residents
[30:50] .
[30:50] Skagit County is
[30:51] working with
[30:52] our dike and
[30:52] drainage
[30:54] district,
[30:54] uh, to begin a
[30:54] new effort
[30:56] to
[30:57] develop community
[30:58] level
[30:59] inundation mapping. So this
[30:59] is
[31:01] not the 100 year
[31:01] flood plain
[31:03] mapping, which
[31:03] is regulatory
[31:05] .
[31:05] This goal in
[31:06] this project
[31:06] is
[31:06] really to
[31:07] better understand
[31:08] what happens at the
[31:09] community
[31:10] level, at a the street level
[31:12] ,
[31:12] uh, at Swan Road, at Francis
[31:13] Road. What's happening
[31:14] ? At a
[31:15] very micro level
[31:16] in the
[31:16] community
[31:17] . Where
[31:19] people live
[31:19] and
[31:19] really not just
[31:21] focusing on
[31:21] what the
[31:21] river
[31:22] gauge says
[31:24] because we're used to looking
[31:24] at
[31:25] the concrete river
[31:26] gauge
[31:26] and
[31:26] the Mount
[31:27] Vernon
[31:28] Gauge, but
[31:28] what we
[31:30] know
[31:30] historically
[31:31] happens in neighborhoods
[31:33] . Club
[31:33] preparedness is
[31:34] a
[31:35] shared
[31:35] responsibility
[31:36] and
[31:37] flood
[31:37] Awareness Week is
[31:37] an
[31:38] opportunity for
[31:39] us
[31:39] all
[31:39] to
[31:40] better understand
[31:41] our risks and
[31:42] to be better prepared for
[31:43] what
[31:43] comes next
[31:44] . Thank you
[31:45] . Very
[31:46] good
[31:48] . I've, I've got
[31:48] the dem
[31:49] team
[31:50] here
[31:50] today and
[31:51] public
[31:51] works
[31:53] , um, I mentioned this is
[31:53] a
[31:54] system
[31:55] we
[31:55] must
[31:55] work together
[31:55] for
[31:57] flood preparedness and
[31:57] flood response
[31:59] . On
[32:00] , uh, you
[32:03] know, last year, DECEMBER, we
[32:03] had um
[32:05] Very large event here
[32:06] in
[32:06] Sky County
[32:06] , lessons
[32:08] learned
[32:09] from your department
[32:10] , community
[32:10] members
[32:11] , any highlights you
[32:11] want to hit
[32:12] on that
[32:13] ? Yeah
[32:13] , sure
[32:14] um, that was
[32:15] such a
[32:17] interesting
[32:18] event because it
[32:19] , it
[32:20] unfolded
[32:20] in
[32:20] phases
[32:21] . So I
[32:22] think one thing
[32:23] the community
[32:24] should be aware
[32:24] of
[32:25] is
[32:26] we're prone
[32:27] to have
[32:28] um
[32:29] double atmospheric rivers in
[32:29] Skagit County
[32:31] where we
[32:31] can have
[32:31] a
[32:33] big atmospheric river coming
[32:34] in. That holds a lot of
[32:35] water
[32:36] and dumps it and then a
[32:37] couple
[32:38] days where there's nothing and
[32:38] then another
[32:40] one that comes in,
[32:40] and they
[32:42] MAY
[32:42] hold
[32:43] at
[32:44] 6
[32:44] hours
[32:44] with all
[32:45] of that
[32:46] extra
[32:47] precipitation coming in or
[32:47] pushing
[32:49] on
[32:49] that dike and
[32:51] levee
[32:51] system
[32:52] . So just
[32:53] because
[32:53] one
[32:54] atmospheric rivers
[32:55] over doesn't
[32:56] mean that all
[32:56] of the
[32:57] response
[32:58] teams go away. We've got to
[32:59] stay for the next one
[33:00] . Uh
[33:00] ,
[33:00] things
[33:02] we learned, and I think
[33:03] the community experiences this
[33:05] every time we put out an alert
[33:05] and
[33:07] warning is that while
[33:09] cell
[33:09] phones
[33:09] , text messages, that's
[33:10] our best way
[33:11] to get a hold of
[33:12] people and people can register
[33:14] through
[33:15] Skagget
[33:15] Ready
[33:16] to
[33:16] get
[33:17] additional types of information
[33:18] from us
[33:18] , those
[33:19] cell phone
[33:21] towers bounce around
[33:21] , so
[33:23] sometimes a message goes
[33:23] somewhere other than
[33:24] we
[33:25] intended
[33:25] , um, and so
[33:27] we can't
[33:28] control for that, but if
[33:28] you
[33:28] sign up
[33:29] for Skagit ready and
[33:30] Opt into
[33:32] our communication
[33:32] system
[33:33] , then
[33:34] we can control, it
[33:34] goes right to
[33:36] you, right to
[33:36] your address, right to the cell
[33:37] phone that
[33:38] was registered, and
[33:39] it doesn't bounce
[33:40] around. We
[33:41] will still
[33:41] use
[33:42] the
[33:43] emergency
[33:44] alert warnings when we need to
[33:45] ,
[33:46] and those do bounce around. And
[33:47] the connection that is on the
[33:48] website
[33:48] . Correct
[33:49] , and
[33:50] Sked
[33:50] County, um
[33:52] . We
[33:52] have our new
[33:52] website
[33:54] now
[33:57] .
[33:57] Gadgetcounty.Net/emergency
[33:58] Management and you can find
[33:59] this
[33:59] gadget ready information
[34:01] to sign up there
[34:01] . And
[34:01] the
[34:03] other
[34:03] interesting thing with the
[34:04] Skagit River, we
[34:05] have
[34:05] dams
[34:06] on
[34:06] the
[34:08] north section, but the Sauk
[34:08] River is
[34:10] not so roughly
[34:12] . 60%
[34:12] is
[34:13] behind the dams, correct
[34:14] , yep
[34:14] .
[34:15] So rain
[34:16] could fall
[34:17] , um, you
[34:17] know, in
[34:19] front of the dams
[34:19] ,
[34:20] behind the dams, we can
[34:21] , we
[34:21] can
[34:22] secure
[34:23] water behind the dams,
[34:24] but a lot
[34:25] of waterfalls that
[34:26] is
[34:26] not controlled by
[34:28] the dams
[34:28] .
[34:29] Yeah, and that was one of the
[34:30] things that Seattle City liked
[34:31] uh relicensing
[34:32] uh we were able
[34:33] to secure
[34:35] . More capacity behind
[34:37] the dams starting in
[34:39] NOVEMBER
[34:40] compared to before it
[34:41] was
[34:42] DECEMBER, but they had
[34:42] been
[34:42] traditionally
[34:43] having that
[34:44] available in NOVEMBER anyway,
[34:44] so
[34:46] , but we have it in
[34:48] . Writing
[34:48] now, so it's
[34:48] really
[34:49] important
[34:49] and
[34:51] additional capacity as well
[34:51] We were
[34:52] very
[34:53] close to um
[34:55] Uh
[34:55] ,
[34:56] full capacity
[34:57] in
[34:57] the 2021
[34:58] floods, so
[34:59] it's
[34:59] that
[35:00] extra
[35:00] capacity
[35:02] literally saves lives
[35:02] .
[35:02] And
[35:04] those atmospheric rivers,
[35:04] they come, you know, out of the
[35:05] Pacific
[35:06] and coming up and if
[35:07] they go, you know
[35:08] , 30 miles or
[35:09] 100 miles south or north
[35:10] , that
[35:11] makes a big
[35:11] difference on how
[35:13] much capacity behind our dams
[35:14] or just
[35:15] the sock where there's
[35:16] no dams at all
[35:17] , and so it has a
[35:18] huge effect on us
[35:20] , and I
[35:20] know
[35:21] absolutely, absolutely
[35:22] . I
[35:22] think
[35:22] that's another thing for
[35:24] the
[35:24] community
[35:25] to
[35:26] know
[35:26] we
[35:26] prepare
[35:27] based on
[35:29] the forecasts, and
[35:29] the
[35:29] forecasts
[35:30] get
[35:31] fine tuned and
[35:32] fine tuned and fine tuned
[35:33] . And
[35:34] it's really a
[35:35] matter
[35:35] of
[35:36] maybe
[35:36] 24 hours
[35:38] where you've got it
[35:38] kind of tuned in
[35:40] the best
[35:40] you
[35:40] can, but
[35:41] 3
[35:42] days out, it could
[35:43] still be a
[35:44] little wobbly and it
[35:45] could move a little more north
[35:45] or a
[35:47] little more
[35:47] south
[35:47] . Our job
[35:49] is to
[35:50] be prepared
[35:51] as soon as we
[35:52] can for what we
[35:53] see
[35:53] coming and
[35:54] if we wait until those
[35:55] 2
[35:56] those
[35:56] last 24
[35:56] hours where
[35:58] it's a
[35:58] ,
[35:59] clearer forecast
[36:00] , we might not
[36:01] have the resources we need if
[36:01] the if the
[36:03] . System changes
[36:04] , so
[36:05] we try to get ahead
[36:05] of things
[36:06] .
[36:07] Yeah, and
[36:07] you
[36:07] mentioned that to
[36:08] go bag
[36:09] and those kind of things
[36:10] have people, you know
[36:11] , it is
[36:12] dry
[36:12] right now
[36:13] . Um
[36:14] , it'd be
[36:14] helpful if
[36:16] people understood
[36:16] other roads to get out of where
[36:17] they are
[36:18] , and so the
[36:18] other
[36:19] maybe side roads that they can
[36:20] go on
[36:21] instead of relying
[36:22] on the
[36:23] main
[36:24] routes because sometimes
[36:25] they get clogged or trees down
[36:26] or bridges out
[36:27] or something
[36:28] where everybody else is on them
[36:30] Yes, this is a
[36:32] perfect time
[36:32] um
[36:32] with SEPTEMBER
[36:34] being prepared
[36:34] this month to
[36:35] think
[36:36] about where
[36:37] your egress
[36:38] and ingress roads,
[36:39] the roads you
[36:39] would travel
[36:40] a
[36:41] secondary road, what are the
[36:43] special needs in your family?
[36:43] Do
[36:45] you have large
[36:45] animals
[36:46] ,
[36:46] small animals
[36:47] , um, somebody
[36:48] with
[36:50] mobility
[36:50] needs
[36:50] medications
[36:51] even an extra
[36:52] pair
[36:52] of glasses.
[36:53] These are the
[36:54] things to
[36:54] think
[36:55] about having around
[36:56] , making
[36:56] sure
[36:57] that
[36:57] you're
[36:59] um gas tank is
[36:59] at least
[37:01] half
[37:01] full, and I'd
[37:02] like
[37:03] to have a
[37:03] go bag in
[37:04] my
[37:05] car
[37:06] and I like to have a go
[37:06] bag in
[37:08] my house
[37:08] because I'm in
[37:09] many
[37:10] places and as a lot of people
[37:11] are, and if you
[37:12] have something
[37:13] in your car that
[37:13] can
[37:14] sustain
[37:15] you if you can't get
[37:15] back
[37:17] home
[37:17] or if you're at work when
[37:19] an
[37:19] incident happens, or if you've
[37:20] got
[37:21] something at home to be
[37:22] able to quickly gather
[37:23] your
[37:24] family together. Having both
[37:25] is
[37:26] important. And you mentioned 2
[37:27] weeks
[37:28] supply to take care of
[37:29] yourself because if
[37:30] Something
[37:31] major happens, there isn't
[37:31] enough
[37:32] government employees to
[37:33] be able to get what you need.
[37:33] You have
[37:35] to take care of
[37:35] yourself. Correct
[37:37] , yes
[37:37] . And
[37:38] that's food, water
[37:39] for
[37:39] you and
[37:40] your
[37:40] animals you have and all
[37:42] those things
[37:43] we recommend
[37:44] at
[37:44] least 1
[37:46] gallon a
[37:46] day per person
[37:46] is the
[37:47] very minimum
[37:48] 3
[37:48] gallons
[37:49] is the
[37:49] is a
[37:50] a
[37:51] nice
[37:51] buffer
[37:52] and
[37:53] um you know you need water to
[37:54] drink, water
[37:55] for
[37:55] your animals
[37:55] ,
[37:56] and
[37:57] um it's not
[37:58] people often
[37:58] say, well, I'll just
[38:00] . Boil
[38:00] water. It's not
[38:01] always that
[38:02] easy to boil water, especially
[38:03] if you don't have
[38:04] access
[38:04] to
[38:05] heat, so if
[38:06] there
[38:06] are electric
[38:06] is
[38:07] down
[38:08] or gas lines are down
[38:09] ,
[38:09] it could
[38:11] be problematic to heat
[38:11] if you don't have a third
[38:12] way
[38:13] to do that. And
[38:13] you can buy
[38:15] a
[38:15] case of
[38:16] water relatively cheap.
[38:16] Yes, you can
[38:18] . Yes, Mr
[38:20] . Browning
[38:20] any other
[38:20] questions or thoughts
[38:21] ?
[38:23] So the, the
[38:24] , I mean they're
[38:25] making it sound like we are
[38:27] just surefire to get another
[38:27] big storm this year. Is that
[38:28] a
[38:29] lot of, a lot of drama
[38:29] , or is
[38:29] that
[38:31] , uh, how's accurate is
[38:32] that? Um
[38:33] , we
[38:33] , well, so at
[38:34] flood
[38:34] Awareness Week
[38:35] next week we
[38:36] will have
[38:36] a presentation
[38:37] from
[38:38] the National Weather Service
[38:38] who's going to give
[38:40] us uh the
[38:40] fall
[38:41] winter forecast
[38:42] . I think
[38:43] it's really too early
[38:44] to say
[38:45] ,
[38:45] um, we do have
[38:46] a
[38:47] strong signal
[38:47] for an
[38:47] El
[38:49] Nino
[38:49] , and
[38:50] I
[38:50] have
[38:52] heard um that we might have um
[38:54] .
[38:54] More coastal flooding this
[38:55] year
[38:56] but it
[38:56] really is too
[38:58] soon to
[38:58] say
[38:59] . We just
[39:00] start
[39:00] watching
[39:01] these
[39:01] markers
[39:02] now
[39:03] and um
[39:03] continue to
[39:05] . Hone in on
[39:05] those
[39:06] throughout
[39:07] the rest
[39:07] of
[39:08] this
[39:09] season in
[39:10] emergency management,
[39:10] we We
[39:12] have at least 2 people on
[39:14] duty 24/7 who
[39:14] are
[39:14] monitoring
[39:14] all
[39:16] of
[39:16] these alerts and
[39:17] warnings as they come
[39:19] in. We
[39:19] all have set on
[39:21] our
[39:21] phones
[39:21] um
[39:21] early
[39:23] alerts from the
[39:23] National
[39:24] Weather Service, and
[39:25] we have
[39:26] the ability to get
[39:28] into
[39:28] a
[39:28] government
[39:29] to
[39:30] government chat
[39:30] with the National
[39:31] Weather
[39:32] Service at any time, so they
[39:32] are
[39:34] very responsive to us if we
[39:35] Hear or see
[39:36] something, even if
[39:36] we're
[39:37] just curious, and they'll
[39:39] get back to us right away, and
[39:39] that helps us start planning
[39:41] .
[39:41] And you talked about
[39:43] your go
[39:43] bags, and I really want to
[39:44] emphasize the
[39:45] importance of
[39:46] medication
[39:46] . Older people
[39:47] get so
[39:48] dependent and to be
[39:49] shut off
[39:50] medication for a couple of days
[39:51] can have
[39:52] really
[39:52] catastrophic
[39:53] impacts, so we
[39:54] , you
[39:54] just set
[39:55] yourself up with a week's worth
[39:55] to
[39:56] just
[39:57] set aside. Most of the
[39:59] pharmacies will give you a
[39:59] three month supply at a time.
[40:00] So, you can
[40:01] just take some of
[40:02] that and put it in a safe place
[40:02] so
[40:03] it's
[40:04] always there. And so
[40:06] that is so important. We found
[40:06] that up
[40:07] at Hamilton a couple
[40:07] of
[40:08] years ago and quite a few years
[40:09] ago and no
[40:10] one had their
[40:11] medications and it was getting.
[40:11] Really
[40:12] scary and some of the
[40:13] people at the church
[40:14] , so
[40:15] , so we
[40:15] can't emphasize
[40:17] that
[40:17] enough and
[40:18] reminding people when
[40:19] you do
[40:19] set those
[40:19] aside
[40:22] , um, take a
[40:24] a
[40:24] masking tape or something and
[40:24] mark on
[40:26] there
[40:26] the
[40:26] expiration
[40:27] date and what it
[40:28] is because you
[40:29] want to be able to cycle those
[40:29] through
[40:30] through but yes, at
[40:31] your pharmacist can usually
[40:31] help
[40:33] you come up with a
[40:33] good
[40:33] emergency plan
[40:35] for medications.
[40:35] Thank you
[40:37] . Yeah, we live in a
[40:38] very unique
[40:39] area here. It's the
[40:40] 3rd largest river in the
[40:41] . West
[40:42] Coast of United States, so it
[40:42] has a
[40:44] very large
[40:44] volume and
[40:44] like
[40:46] you mentioned
[40:46] , um, don't
[40:47] just look at the
[40:48] , the gauges
[40:49] because the river changes and
[40:51] so forth
[40:51] . And one of the things
[40:51] I know
[40:53] they're looking at, you
[40:53] know, the cubic feet
[40:55] have that
[40:55] number
[40:56] instead of a 10 year
[40:57] flood or
[40:58] 25
[40:58] year flood because
[41:00] Um, with
[41:02] Climate
[41:04] changing those
[41:05] MAY not mean what you expect
[41:05] them
[41:06] to mean. So
[41:07] that's why the
[41:07] cubic feet per second in
[41:08] the
[41:09] river is
[41:11] really important to
[41:11] understand how much volume is
[41:12] coming
[41:13] down and when a
[41:13] certain
[41:14] volume level hits
[41:15] , then certain
[41:16] roads go underwater and that
[41:18] kind of stuff, so people
[41:18] understand the
[41:20] process. Yeah,
[41:20] that's a good reminder. We
[41:21] should do
[41:22] a um
[41:23] preparedness
[41:25] Facebook post about that, about
[41:26] learning how to read those
[41:27] numbers and where to get the
[41:27] source
[41:29] for that
[41:29] . But
[41:31] , uh, we,
[41:31] like I said, we live in
[41:31] a
[41:33] valley and it was formed
[41:34] because the river
[41:35] flooded and
[41:36] all the sediment. That's why we
[41:36] have
[41:38] relatively flat land here
[41:38] .
[41:39] That means
[41:40] the river flooded at
[41:41] one point if it's flat, then
[41:43] then then got mountains
[41:43] . It
[41:43] hasn't flooded
[41:45] , but down in
[41:45] the
[41:45] valley area it
[41:47] has flooded at
[41:48] one point over the thousands of
[41:48] years
[41:49] , and so people need to
[41:50] realize that
[41:51] when they're
[41:52] living here and
[41:52] understanding
[41:52] what they
[41:53] can
[41:56] do to get
[41:56] themselves to safety. Yes
[41:58] ,
[41:59] absolutely. Any other questions
[42:00] or comments
[42:02] ? No
[42:03] , thank you
[42:03] . I
[42:03] feel
[42:05] real protected. This is a
[42:05] really good crew you pulled
[42:06] together
[42:07] . It's just, this is
[42:09] good
[42:10] . They
[42:12] aren't able to
[42:12] protect you. They they're able
[42:13] to help
[42:14] you
[42:14] if
[42:14] something
[42:14] happens
[42:16] , so I
[42:16] feel protected.
[42:16] They have
[42:17] the
[42:18] training. Some
[42:19] things just happen and they'll
[42:19] can help you with
[42:20] your
[42:21] You
[42:22] look
[42:23] at the news the last
[42:23] couple
[42:25] of
[42:26] weeks there's been some huge
[42:27] ,
[42:28] huge events across the world,
[42:28] and it's uh
[42:30] People don't
[42:32] understand how much forest
[42:32] water does
[42:34] have large things
[42:34] happen
[42:35] , so
[42:37] it's heartbreaking.
[42:37] Yeah
[42:38] , absolutely, absolutely,
[42:39] so
[42:41] . Thank you very much for
[42:41] coming in
[42:42] . Proclamation
[42:45] . Paul
[42:46] read the proclamation
[42:47] this
[42:47] time
[42:48] it's a lot shorter than the
[42:51] other
[42:52] Saskatchew
[42:52] County
[42:54] Proclamation 2026 flood
[42:55] Awareness Week
[42:56] . Whereas
[42:57] flooding has been a
[42:58] serious
[42:59] concern to the community of Sky
[43:00] County since
[43:01] the
[43:02] late 1800s
[43:03] and
[43:04] whereas the threat
[43:04] of
[43:04] extreme
[43:06] flooding generally occurs in
[43:07] the Skagia Valley between the
[43:08] months of OCTOBER and MARCH
[43:10] .
[43:11] And whereas due to this
[43:12] concern
[43:12] measures have been taken
[43:13] throughout the years to reduce
[43:15] the risk of flood damage in
[43:15] the
[43:17] valley
[43:17] , and
[43:19] whereas as a part
[43:20] of this
[43:20] preventative measure
[43:22] ,
[43:22] Skagie County Public Works and
[43:23] Department
[43:23] of
[43:24] Emergency
[43:24] Management holds Flood
[43:26] Awareness Weeks each year to
[43:26] assist and
[43:28] implement ongoing
[43:29] flood preparedness
[43:30] and
[43:30] whereas
[43:31] the board of Skagi
[43:32] County
[43:33] commissioners feels it is
[43:33] prudent
[43:35] . To
[43:35] be
[43:37] continuously
[43:37] aware of and plan for the
[43:38] threat
[43:39] of flooding so the
[43:40] public MAY
[43:40] be informed
[43:41] of
[43:42] and
[43:42] protected in the event of a
[43:42] flood
[43:44] . Now
[43:44] , therefore, be
[43:44] it
[43:45] resolved that it is
[43:46] hereby
[43:47] ordered the board of Saskatchew
[43:47] County
[43:48] Commissioners
[43:49] declares
[43:49] SEPTEMBER 14th
[43:50] through 18th
[43:51] ,
[43:51] 2026 as
[43:53] flood
[43:53] Awareness Week
[43:54] ,
[43:54] and I
[43:55] saw
[43:55] move
[43:56] . I
[43:56] second. Let's
[43:57] move
[43:58] to 2nd
[43:58] to proclaim
[44:02] .
[44:02] SEPTEMBER
[44:02] 14th
[44:03] through
[44:04] 18th
[44:04] ,
[44:04] 2026
[44:05] is flood Awareness week
[44:06] .
[44:06] Any
[44:07] more
[44:07] discussion
[44:08] ? All those
[44:09] in favor say
[44:09] aye
[44:11] . Aye
[44:11] . All
[44:12] those opposed, motion passes
[44:13] .
[44:14] Thank you very much. Thank you
[44:15] ,
[44:16] commissioners. And once again,
[44:16] Commissioner Burns
[44:18] is gone
[44:18] today, so
[44:20] he will not, he's not
[44:20] here
[44:22] , so
[44:23] . Anything else to come
[44:25] before us at this time
[44:27] . So with
[44:27] that, we're
[44:27] gonna
[44:29] adjourn
[44:29] till
[44:29] 9:30 and we
[44:30] have public
[44:31] works,
[44:32] the public hearing with that
[44:33] ,
[44:34] we adjourn. Thank you very much
[44:47] as 24
[44:49] , um,
[44:49] on a
[44:49] consistent basis
[44:51] , the
[44:52] county has reported
[44:53] , as have
[44:54] other places, but the county
[44:56] has
[44:56] reported that the race
[44:58] between 24
[44:58] and 25
[45:00] went up a
[45:01] consistent
[45:10] Good morning. I call this
[45:10] sessions
[45:11] Kedge County
[45:11] commissions to order. It's a
[45:12] little after
[45:12] 9:30
[45:13] on
[45:13] SEPTEMBER
[45:13] 8th
[45:14] , 2026
[45:15] , we are
[45:15] here for a
[45:16] public hearing
[45:18] , um, dealing
[45:18] with
[45:20] , uh, considerations
[45:20] for us
[45:22] lake Management
[45:23] District Marie
[45:25] Lambert r
[45:25] assistant director
[45:27] .
[45:28] Good morning, commissioners and
[45:29] members of the public. I'm
[45:30] Marie Lamberts, the Assistant
[45:31] Public works director
[45:32] and
[45:32] controller
[45:33] , and
[45:33] Natural
[45:34] Resources division Manager
[45:35] Jen
[45:36] Johnson and our
[45:38] Natural
[45:38] Resources noxious weed, or
[45:39] excuse me
[45:40] , natural resources
[45:41] coordinator Evan Emrick are
[45:42] here to review the
[45:43] proposed
[45:43] annual
[45:45] special assessment for
[45:45] lake Management
[45:47] District number
[45:47] 4 for Clear Lake and
[45:49] Beaver
[45:50] Lake before you open the public
[45:50] hearing today
[45:52] . I've turned over
[45:52] to Jen
[45:54] . Good morning,
[45:54] commissioners, members of the
[45:55] public
[45:56] , um, as Marie said, I'm
[45:57] Jenn Johnson. I manage
[45:58] the
[45:59] Natural Resources division here
[45:59] in
[46:01] Skagit County, um, and we
[46:01] just have a few
[46:02] slides
[46:03] going
[46:03] over this
[46:05] , uh, potential
[46:06] reformation of our, one of
[46:07] our
[46:07] four
[46:08] lake management districts.
[46:08] This is
[46:10] Clear and
[46:10] Beaver Lakes,
[46:10] um
[46:12] . We
[46:12] also today, depending on
[46:12] how
[46:14] the
[46:14] discussion goes
[46:14] , have
[46:15] a
[46:16] potential resolution for
[46:17] consideration
[46:18] to
[46:19] approve
[46:19] these
[46:19] changes
[46:20] . And
[46:21] so I'll just dive
[46:21] right in
[46:23] , um, this first slide
[46:24] is just showing
[46:25] that timeline
[46:26] we've been going through
[46:27] this
[46:28] year, um, and where we are
[46:28] right now
[46:30] , so
[46:30] we've
[46:30] already had
[46:30] um, quite
[46:32] a few
[46:32] . Chances for
[46:33] outreach
[46:35] to the public. We had
[46:35] our first
[46:35] public
[46:36] hearing
[46:37] , um,
[46:37] we sent ballots to
[46:38] all
[46:39] residents
[46:41] . We
[46:41] received 8
[46:43] , this
[46:44] round 7 in favor, 1 against
[46:45] .
[46:46] And those ballots
[46:47] are simple
[46:48] yes or nos
[46:50] for reformation
[46:50] , um,
[46:50] and right
[46:51] now we have
[46:52] gone
[46:52] through our appeal period,
[46:53] which just wrapped up, and
[46:54] we
[46:54] are on our
[46:55] final step
[46:56] of
[46:57] our
[46:57] second public hearing, like I
[46:58] mentioned
[46:59] , with
[46:59] that
[46:59] possible
[47:00] action to adopt
[47:01] the
[47:02] resolution.
[47:02] Um
[47:03] , these changes
[47:04] , if approved,
[47:04] would go into
[47:06] effect starting
[47:06] JANUARY 1st of 2027
[47:10] . Here
[47:10] are
[47:13] the proposed changes to our
[47:13] special
[47:15] assessment
[47:15] rate
[47:15] structure
[47:16] , um, as I mentioned
[47:17] ,
[47:17] this was included at the first
[47:18] public hearing, as
[47:20] well as on
[47:21] the ballots sent
[47:22] to residents
[47:22] ,
[47:23] um, what you
[47:24] see
[47:24] here is the
[47:25] breakdown of the
[47:26] land
[47:26] use types
[47:27] The
[47:28] number
[47:29] of units per type,
[47:29] and then
[47:30] that base rate, so you
[47:31] can see in the
[47:31] orange column
[47:32] ,
[47:33] that's our current rate
[47:33] , we
[47:34] have established for
[47:35] this lake
[47:36] Management District. What we
[47:38] are proposing and what we
[47:38] received
[47:40] , um, support for
[47:40] through
[47:42] those
[47:42] ballots is for
[47:43] the next
[47:44] 10 years, having a
[47:45] slight increase
[47:46] to
[47:46] keep
[47:46] up with
[47:47] increases to
[47:48] treatment. So that
[47:49] was the main
[47:49] initiator
[47:50] for
[47:51] reforming this
[47:51] district
[47:53] early
[47:53] is
[47:54] um the rapes
[47:55] have gone
[47:55] up
[47:56] for treatments of lakes and of
[47:56] these
[47:58] ., aquatic
[47:59] weeds
[48:00] . And so
[48:00] what we're
[48:01] doing here
[48:02] and what
[48:02] we heard from the public is
[48:03] just have
[48:04] a
[48:05] small
[48:05] increase
[48:06] to
[48:07] help support and keep up with
[48:07] those changes
[48:09] . Um, and so you
[48:09] can see that 10
[48:11] year time
[48:11] frame
[48:11] here
[48:12] , um, laid out, like
[48:13] i said
[48:14] by land use type
[48:16] . And
[48:16] with
[48:16] that
[48:18] uh, I will pass it over to Evan
[48:20] like Marie mentioned, our
[48:21] noxious week coordinator who
[48:22] also oversees our lake
[48:23] management districts, just
[48:24] to
[48:25] speak to
[48:25] um details
[48:26] on
[48:27] how
[48:27] these assessments are then
[48:28] utilized
[48:29] for our
[48:29] like
[48:29] treatments
[48:36] . Good morning,
[48:36] commissioners, members of
[48:37] the
[48:38] public
[48:38] , um, as Jen mentioned
[48:40] , I
[48:41] am Evan Emrick. I'm the noxious
[48:41] weed
[48:43] coordinator for
[48:43] Saskatchet
[48:43] County, um, and I
[48:45] also
[48:45] oversee
[48:45] our uh 4
[48:47] , for
[48:47] lake management
[48:48] districts, uh, as well
[48:49] . So
[48:50] , uh,
[48:50] with lake
[48:52] management District 4
[48:52] Clear and Beaver Lakes
[48:54] , um, as
[48:54] Jen kind of pointed out, we've
[48:55] been sort of
[48:56] running into
[48:57] simply a lack of funds for the
[48:57] amount
[48:58] of treatments that we
[48:59] need to do out
[49:00] there
[49:00] . Um, some
[49:01] of the, some of
[49:01] the
[49:03] activities
[49:03] that go along with our
[49:04] contractors include
[49:05] surveys and
[49:05] mappings. Um, as you can see in
[49:06] the
[49:07] top
[49:07] right there
[49:08] , um, this
[49:08] is essentially using
[49:09] a
[49:10] bio
[49:10] survey
[49:12] , um, type data where we
[49:12] are able to look through the
[49:13] water and
[49:14] then be able
[49:14] to
[49:15] see
[49:15] uh the amount
[49:16] of
[49:16] vegetation
[49:17] that is through the
[49:18] water
[49:18] column. Uh
[49:19] , we use
[49:19] this
[49:20] data
[49:21] yearly, um, just for
[49:21] data
[49:22] collection, for
[49:23] planning for
[49:24] future treatments, um, and so
[49:24] that
[49:25] we
[49:26] can not just see, of
[49:26] course, what's above
[49:27] the
[49:28] surface
[49:28] for vegetation issues,
[49:29] but
[49:30] below as well
[49:30] . There's also
[49:31] a
[49:32] number
[49:32] of permits
[49:33] , um, and
[49:33] publications
[49:34] , like
[49:34] public
[49:35] notifications that
[49:36] we
[49:36] need to
[49:37] go about when we do these
[49:37] treatments
[49:39] each year, um
[49:41] , some
[49:41] of these
[49:41] , uh, treatments
[49:43] , uh,
[49:43] for
[49:44] notifications would overlap
[49:44] with
[49:46] my noxious weed type work
[49:46] ,
[49:46] treating mostly
[49:48] fragrant water
[49:48] lilies, which are a class
[49:49] seaweed
[49:50] . Here
[49:50] in Saskatchew
[49:50] County, as
[49:52] Eurasian water mill
[49:53] foil, which is b. Both of
[49:54] these
[49:55] noxious weeds are non-selected,
[49:56] meaning they
[49:57] are not required
[49:58] for control, but of course have
[49:58] a lot
[49:59] of
[49:59] nuisance problems when
[50:00] it becomes an
[50:01] issue in our
[50:02] leagues
[50:02] . Uh
[50:04] , some more of the
[50:04] things that we need
[50:05] , uh, for
[50:06] activities, uh, we need to
[50:07] further our
[50:08] , uh, monitoring for
[50:09] water quality
[50:10] . Um, we've been
[50:11] having
[50:11] some miscellaneous
[50:13] issues with algae in some of
[50:13] the other local lakes
[50:15] around
[50:15] Saskatchew County, so we wanna
[50:16] kind of make sure as best
[50:17] as
[50:18] possible if this
[50:18] in Clear Lake,
[50:19] we
[50:20] have a sort of battle ready
[50:20] plan of what we need to do with
[50:21] that
[50:22] . Uh, we also want
[50:23] to
[50:24] continue our
[50:24] community and
[50:25] education outreach
[50:26] as
[50:26] well
[50:26] , um,
[50:27] including in these annual
[50:28] reports that our
[50:29] contractors
[50:29] give to us and then we're able
[50:31] to relay to the public in order
[50:31] to get feedback on
[50:32] what we
[50:33] would like to do with the lakes
[50:34] moving forward
[50:35] . Uh
[50:35] , included in
[50:36] our newsletters
[50:37] as well
[50:38] . Um, so
[50:38] a couple
[50:40] of things that some of
[50:40] this
[50:42] , um, you know
[50:42] , further
[50:43] assessment might
[50:44] help us with
[50:45] and what we're looking to do
[50:46] ,
[50:47] um, as suggested by
[50:48] contractors
[50:49] historically would be to
[50:49] include treatments in the
[50:51] early
[50:51] spring to treat seedlings
[50:52] instead of only
[50:53] doing one
[50:53] treatment a year on fully
[50:54] matured
[50:55] plants and only once
[50:56] during
[50:56] the midsummer
[50:57] . Um
[50:58] um,
[50:59] considerations of
[51:00] mechanical
[51:01] harvesting for some of the more
[51:01] dense shoreline areas
[51:02] that we
[51:03] have, particularly near the
[51:03] boat launches as well
[51:05] . And
[51:05] expand
[51:07] our herbicide swaths
[51:07] near these boat launches to
[51:09] ensure that there
[51:09] is
[51:10] better
[51:10] access
[51:11] to the lakes as well
[51:13] . Uh
[51:14] so
[51:14] , with that
[51:16] , um, I am open
[51:18] for questions. Um, if
[51:18] any
[51:19] members of the public or
[51:20] Mr
[51:20] .
[51:21] Have any for me
[51:22] ? Mr
[51:23] . Browning,
[51:23] any questions
[51:25] ? One
[51:25] of the
[51:27] discussions that constantly
[51:28] comes up is
[51:29] , is
[51:29] it fair to just
[51:30] put all of the
[51:32] cost of this on
[51:32] the businesses that are right
[51:33] up against
[51:34] the lake because the
[51:34] hillside
[51:36] behind
[51:36] Clear Lake
[51:38] adds
[51:39] chemicals, things like that,
[51:39] the
[51:40] hillside on the other side,
[51:41] they're all coming down
[51:42] and
[51:43] impacting it
[51:43] . Um, has there
[51:45] been discussion of doing a
[51:46] lesser amount
[51:47] but still
[51:48] taking
[51:48] into consideration
[51:50] the
[51:50] other
[51:51] properties that have an
[51:52] impact
[51:52] on the health of the lake
[51:53] . Yeah
[51:54] so there has been discussions
[51:55] on this. Would not just
[51:56] Lake
[51:57] Management District 4, but all
[51:57] of our
[51:58] Lake management
[51:59] districts as well. Uh, one of
[51:59] the hurdles
[52:00] that
[52:01] we sort of run
[52:02] into with this, of course, when
[52:04] you expand the area of which
[52:04] that you want to do
[52:05] an
[52:06] assessment on is this is a this
[52:06] is
[52:08] a
[52:08] voted formation. So folks
[52:08] would
[52:10] be able to vote whether
[52:10] or not
[52:11] they are essentially
[52:12] doing a self-tax in
[52:13] that way
[52:14] ,
[52:15] um, of course, depending on
[52:15] lake
[52:16] management districts that
[52:17] can look differently here,
[52:18] there and what water bodies
[52:18] you
[52:19] would want
[52:19] to include would go
[52:21] into your reformation plan as
[52:21] well
[52:23] . This
[52:24] this reformation
[52:24] plan
[52:25] just goes over the
[52:26] properties that are being
[52:26] currently
[52:28] assessed in like
[52:28] Management District 4
[52:30] . And
[52:32] are
[52:32] there most of it's just
[52:33] swimming in that lake
[52:34] , there's
[52:34] very little
[52:35] . Boat
[52:37] activity and
[52:37] so
[52:39] it's anyway so the
[52:40] , the mil
[52:40] foil
[52:41] is more
[52:42] about just
[52:42] irritating when
[52:43] you're swimming
[52:44] but not
[52:44] necessarily the
[52:44] standard one
[52:45] where it
[52:46] messes up
[52:47] with props and things like that
[52:48] but sure, and that would be
[52:49] messing with like
[52:50] boat props
[52:51] might be more of a fragrant
[52:53] water lily issue as well as
[52:53] these fragrant water
[52:54] lilies
[52:55] ending up in, you know
[52:56] ,
[52:57] people's shorelines and not
[52:58] getting treated properly is
[52:58] another issue we're
[52:59] running
[53:00] into as well. We want to make
[53:00] sure we have enough funds
[53:01] to
[53:02] actually be able to do the work
[53:02] that is
[53:04] being proposed, um,
[53:04] instead of, you know
[53:06] . Only
[53:06] having so many funds to do some
[53:07] of the treatment each year
[53:08] .
[53:09] This is why we're looking at a
[53:10] full instead, and this is the
[53:11] first time in quite a while, so
[53:12] it's not
[53:13] an
[53:13] excessive
[53:15] increase
[53:16] because you increase it in how
[53:17] many years? So this was 2 end
[53:18] of 2017 was
[53:19] the last time we
[53:20] did this. Um
[53:20] , there
[53:22] was during
[53:23] these meetings that we have
[53:23] annually
[53:24] , there was outcry to
[53:25] maybe look at this to do
[53:26] it
[53:26] further as
[53:27] well. Um, if we
[53:27] wanted to do
[53:28] a reassessment, we
[53:29] can do them early, um, much
[53:31] like we're pushing to do this
[53:31] one as well. Um, normally
[53:33] they're set for 10 years. Um
[53:33] ,
[53:34] this
[53:35] time we're kind of setting
[53:36] it up so that
[53:37] there's an
[53:38] increase annually so that we
[53:38] don't end up In the
[53:40] same boat
[53:40] again
[53:40] , uh, to be behind
[53:42] . That
[53:42] makes sense. Yes, good. Ok
[53:44] .
[53:44] Thank you
[53:45] . Yes
[53:46] , thank you very
[53:47] much for the
[53:47] presentation. Um,
[53:47] as
[53:48] you
[53:49] mentioned
[53:49] , the
[53:50] rcw
[53:51] allows a
[53:51] 10-year time period on
[53:52] this
[53:53] , but you can go back
[53:54] and
[53:56] start over redo it. Yeah, you
[53:56] could start
[53:58] over on your 2 if,
[53:59] if, if it was needed for
[54:00] that
[54:00] .
[54:01] And one of the issues we're
[54:01] coming
[54:02] up
[54:02] with
[54:02] is
[54:03] the
[54:03] regulations and
[54:04] what chemicals
[54:05] are available has changed over
[54:07] the years. Can you go into that
[54:07] a little bit? Yeah
[54:09] , so not only
[54:10] is, is, you know, some of the
[54:11] chemicals become more
[54:12] restricted
[54:12] , more expensive, but
[54:13] you know
[54:14] , Washington state
[54:14] sometimes has um it has
[54:16] the
[54:16] ability to
[54:16] sell
[54:18] certain
[54:18] herbicides in our state and
[54:18] then
[54:20] uh redact them later and
[54:21] then they become no longer able
[54:22] to
[54:23] sell. Um, of course, some of
[54:23] the
[54:25] biggest costs that
[54:25] goes
[54:26] into um kind
[54:27] of doing any lake
[54:28] work tends to be just
[54:29] , uh, like
[54:29] man hours of
[54:30] doing that
[54:31] labor
[54:32] hours as well
[54:32] . But we
[54:33] do have
[54:34] ,
[54:34] um, we do still have some
[54:35] really
[54:36] good options
[54:36] for
[54:36] treating
[54:37] , uh, aquatic weeds
[54:38] in,
[54:39] in our state as
[54:39] well
[54:40] . Uh
[54:40] ,
[54:41] trilopier 3 has kind of been a
[54:41] go
[54:43] to for
[54:43] fragrant water lilies
[54:44] around, um, as
[54:45] well as some of
[54:46] the other aquatic vegetation
[54:47] we
[54:47] have. Uh, one of the
[54:48] things
[54:50] that our contractors would like
[54:50] to do, of course, further
[54:52] and
[54:52] have suggested doing for next
[54:53] treatment
[54:54] should we
[54:54] ever have a
[54:55] larger assessment
[54:56] would
[54:57] be
[54:57] to
[54:57] um include that
[54:58] early spring
[54:59] treatment, which would be a
[55:00] different herbicide
[55:01] , um, that's
[55:01] more aimed at
[55:02] Plants
[55:03] that are
[55:03] getting, that are in their
[55:04] seedling
[55:05] phase that are are
[55:06] ready to sprout up
[55:06] . So
[55:07] kind of
[55:08] coming at it with two-pronged
[55:09] attack instead of just
[55:10] the
[55:10] one
[55:10] summer application
[55:12] . And that's
[55:13] not available if you don't have
[55:13] the funds to do
[55:14] it
[55:15] , so I
[55:16] know
[55:17] from agricultural standpoint,
[55:17] it's always
[55:19] better
[55:19] to
[55:19] treat the
[55:20] weeds when
[55:21] they're young and
[55:22] small. They're more
[55:23] vulnerable
[55:24] to. Sure, and of course it's
[55:24] different for each one
[55:25] . We
[55:26] have
[55:26] 180 some odd noxious weeds here
[55:28] in Sketchet, you know, has
[55:30] that
[55:30] different requirements and
[55:31] control efforts that work
[55:32] better
[55:33] , so
[55:33] I
[55:35] was surprised that
[55:35] only
[55:37] 8 ballots, and am I
[55:37] reading this correctly
[55:39] ? There's
[55:39] um
[55:43] Almost
[55:44] 45 different
[55:44] property
[55:44] owners yeah
[55:46] , 48, uh, different
[55:47] property owners. We
[55:48] received 8.
[55:48] When we
[55:49] initially
[55:50] did
[55:50] this
[55:51] reformation effort last year
[55:52] , I
[55:53] believe I received around 9 or
[55:53] 10 ballots
[55:55] . So whether that's
[55:56] just the
[55:57] case of that's how our
[55:58] normal amounts for this
[55:59] lake
[56:00] were low. Um, I can't say
[56:01] , but
[56:02] ,
[56:02] um, yeah, it
[56:02] just remind
[56:03] me
[56:04] again how those ballots are
[56:05] sent out or
[56:06] how that is done.
[56:07] Sure, so I actually have
[56:08] an
[56:09] example ballot, um, that this
[56:09] was just
[56:11] a copy of what is
[56:12] exactly sent out
[56:13] to landowners,
[56:14] um, and anybody that's feel
[56:14] free to take a
[56:15] look at this if
[56:16] they want to, but
[56:17] , um, what's
[56:18] included in that, of course, is
[56:18] the ballot. The
[56:20] ballots are
[56:20] color coded based on the
[56:22] different property juris or the
[56:23] different properties which they
[56:23] might
[56:24] have under types of types
[56:25] Property
[56:26] they have
[56:27] . Yes
[56:28] , um, a
[56:29] security envelope. There are
[56:31] ballot instructions as
[56:32] resolution for folks
[56:33] to go
[56:33] through
[56:33] as well. Um
[56:34] , it's part
[56:34] of
[56:35] the rcw
[56:36] , there's also
[56:36] requirements
[56:38] for it to be
[56:38] notarized as well
[56:40] by
[56:40] the
[56:40] landowner, as well as
[56:41] have the
[56:42] ,
[56:43] the assessment number that they
[56:43] would be paying on
[56:44] it as well
[56:45] .
[56:45] So. So
[56:47] , the landowner has to go
[56:47] to a notary to
[56:49] get it, just
[56:49] signature, just a signature on
[56:50] it from them
[56:51] . They have to go
[56:52] to a notary
[56:53] and get their
[56:54] signature
[56:55] on the ballot.
[56:56] There's a, there's a place for
[56:56] the landowner
[56:58] to
[56:58] sign
[56:58] on
[56:59] the
[57:00] secrecy envelope, so they don't
[57:01] need to, they can just sign it
[57:01] as
[57:02] the landowner. Yeah, they
[57:03] don't have to go to annuity
[57:04] , so
[57:05] I'm getting
[57:05] at it's mailed to
[57:06] their
[57:07] kitchen table
[57:07] . They sat
[57:08] their kitchen table
[57:09] . They just
[57:10] have to fill it out and put it
[57:10] back in
[57:11] the
[57:11] mail
[57:12] , correct, and
[57:12] you come back and you count
[57:13] them
[57:14] and so forth
[57:16] . I'm just the
[57:16] turnout seemed very low to me,
[57:17] so yeah
[57:18] . But
[57:19] that's generally
[57:21] what you've been seeing
[57:21] . Yeah
[57:21] ,
[57:21] that's
[57:23] , that's what, and, and I
[57:23] took over this
[57:25] , uh, in 2020
[57:27] ,
[57:27] 2025, early 2025
[57:28] . So those
[57:29] are
[57:30] the only two I have seen, um
[57:31] .
[57:32] So yeah, that would be the
[57:32] normal for me
[57:34] . Ok
[57:34] , any
[57:35] other
[57:36] questions
[57:37] ? That's it. We
[57:38] have
[57:39] several that signed up for
[57:41] .
[57:41] Public comment on this hearing.
[57:41] So
[57:43] this is a public hearing, so
[57:43] we
[57:45] will
[57:45] accept the
[57:46] names
[57:47] here
[57:47] .
[57:48] Stan Buchanan, if you'd like to
[57:50] step up and put your feet
[57:50] on
[57:52] the yellow footprints and
[57:53] talking to the
[57:54] microphones and
[57:54] .
[57:55] Right here
[57:57] . Thanks, Dan
[57:59] .
[57:59] There's footprints on the
[58:00] ground there and
[58:01] you stand on
[58:02] the footprints and the mics are
[58:02] all set, so
[58:03] you just have to
[58:03] talk
[58:06] . Ok
[58:07] . Ok
[58:08] , I
[58:10] , I
[58:10] live just
[58:10] east of
[58:11] the boat launch
[58:12] . First
[58:13] ,
[58:13] uh, dock east
[58:15] . Well
[58:17] , To start
[58:17] with
[58:19] . There wasnt any
[58:19] work done
[58:20] there
[58:21] . It
[58:21] never
[58:22] killed a single
[58:23] plant, whatever they did
[58:24] . Not
[58:24] one
[58:26] . So I
[58:26] talked to
[58:28] my neighbor
[58:28] He says, well, I didn't kill
[58:29] any of mine either
[58:31] . I
[58:32] talked to
[58:33] Joel, which is my son here
[58:35] .
[58:36] Didn't kill any of his either
[58:39] .
[58:39] So
[58:40] , There's something wrong
[58:40] with
[58:42] the system, and I
[58:42] , I came
[58:42] in
[58:44] and talked to Avon
[58:44] about it,
[58:44] and I brought
[58:46] some pictures
[58:46] .
[58:46] And
[58:48] he said he
[58:48] didn't even
[58:49] particularly want to
[58:51] see
[58:51] him
[58:52] because he says they wouldn't
[58:52] hold up
[58:53] in
[58:53] court anyway because
[58:54] the
[58:55] He said he could have
[58:57] been
[58:57] taken
[58:57] last
[58:58] year or I said
[59:00] . Well
[59:00] why don't you come out and take
[59:02] a look yourself? I just took
[59:03] them the day before yesterday
[59:04] .
[59:05] Not our business
[59:06] . I
[59:07] think
[59:07] that's kind of
[59:10] unfair
[59:11] to the
[59:11] we've got no
[59:13] oversight in this
[59:13] thing
[59:13] at
[59:15] all
[59:15] , and this isn't
[59:16] the first year. They didn't
[59:17] have me, they didn't do
[59:18] anything last year either
[59:20] . And
[59:21] the
[59:22] next
[59:22] thing is it's always
[59:23] done too
[59:24] late
[59:24] . The
[59:24] season is
[59:25] half over
[59:27] . Before they
[59:27] even do
[59:29] the job
[59:31] . And
[59:31] I don't understand
[59:32] why only
[59:33] 8 people
[59:33] would have
[59:34] voted
[59:36] . That's beyond me
[59:36] . Um
[59:40] ,
[59:40] And I I just heard
[59:42] . A little
[59:43] bit through the
[59:44] grapevine
[59:44] , it's
[59:45] actually some people didn't
[59:47] even get charged
[59:47] . Now
[59:49] I don't
[59:49] know. That's just a
[59:50] hearsay so
[59:50] far
[59:51] , but I would like to look
[59:52] into it
[59:54] . Um
[59:56] , But I'm
[59:58] not
[59:59] satisfied with the way this has
[59:59] gone
[1:00:00] . I
[1:00:00] complained last year
[1:00:01] too
[1:00:01] . I'm
[1:00:03] the one who voted no
[1:00:04] .
[1:00:05] Because I didn't see any
[1:00:05] results
[1:00:07] . And um
[1:00:11] , As
[1:00:12] far
[1:00:12] as
[1:00:12] upping the fee
[1:00:14] , that's doubled.
[1:00:14] It's not just a
[1:00:16] little bit.
[1:00:16] They doubled it
[1:00:19] . And
[1:00:19] uh how do
[1:00:19] we
[1:00:20] know we're going to get
[1:00:21] anything next year
[1:00:23] ? They could
[1:00:24] have been just
[1:00:25] spraying water
[1:00:26] around out there as far as I
[1:00:28] know, and, and what do they
[1:00:28] spray
[1:00:29] anyway? Are
[1:00:30] they spraying
[1:00:30] all of the lake or are
[1:00:31] they
[1:00:32] just spraying in front of each
[1:00:32] duck
[1:00:35] . Because there's
[1:00:36] some docs
[1:00:37] There's no water
[1:00:38] lilies ever
[1:00:39] grow there because it's too
[1:00:39] deep
[1:00:40] or
[1:00:41] it's, it just isn't in
[1:00:42] the environment of it
[1:00:43] . And
[1:00:45] other ducks, it looks like
[1:00:47] they
[1:00:48] just think that the weeds love
[1:00:48] it, I guess
[1:00:50] . But
[1:00:52] um there's no
[1:00:52] spent spray
[1:00:53] in the all of
[1:00:54] the
[1:00:54] lake
[1:00:55] . When only a few
[1:00:56] people
[1:00:57] want it
[1:00:58] . Some
[1:00:59] people don't even
[1:00:59] want their
[1:00:59] legs
[1:01:01] rayed
[1:01:01] . They
[1:01:02] wanted to leave it just like it
[1:01:02] is
[1:01:04] . And uh
[1:01:06] i wouldn't
[1:01:07] mind this
[1:01:08] the spray around the
[1:01:08] docks
[1:01:10] , but
[1:01:10] it's no good the way it is
[1:01:12] .
[1:01:13] Because that does not work and
[1:01:13] it hasn't worked
[1:01:14] for years.
[1:01:15] I've been there 8 years
[1:01:19] . Thank
[1:01:19] you very much
[1:01:20] . That's 3 minutes
[1:01:24] Next is Joel began
[1:01:31] . Hey
[1:01:32] , I'm,
[1:01:33] I'm Joel Buchanan
[1:01:35] . And I want
[1:01:35] to
[1:01:36] echo everything that my
[1:01:37] dad
[1:01:37] said
[1:01:38] , um, I
[1:01:39] want
[1:01:39] to
[1:01:39] attest
[1:01:40] that
[1:01:40] the work
[1:01:42] that's been done on
[1:01:42] the
[1:01:42] lake
[1:01:42] was
[1:01:43] not
[1:01:44] effective
[1:01:44] around my
[1:01:46] portion
[1:01:46] , um, property
[1:01:47] and then
[1:01:48] I
[1:01:48] also
[1:01:49] want to address
[1:01:49] a couple of things like
[1:01:51] , uh,
[1:01:51] Commissioner Browning
[1:01:52] said
[1:01:53] , um,
[1:01:53] the propellers are fairly
[1:01:54] important
[1:01:55] . It
[1:01:55] is a, a, um
[1:01:57] , a
[1:01:58] boating lake
[1:01:59] , and so it's not
[1:02:00] just swimming around the
[1:02:02] uh the
[1:02:02] edges and the docks, however,
[1:02:03] the docks
[1:02:04] are the
[1:02:04] most
[1:02:05] important because that's how we
[1:02:05] all access
[1:02:07] the lake is from our
[1:02:07] own
[1:02:08] docks
[1:02:09] and uh um
[1:02:11] . My feeling
[1:02:12] along with most of the other
[1:02:13] property owners on the
[1:02:14] lake is
[1:02:14] the boat launch
[1:02:15] is
[1:02:15] the least
[1:02:16] important part
[1:02:17] of
[1:02:18] the
[1:02:18] um lake
[1:02:21] uh uh management. We were kind
[1:02:22] of proud of being a private
[1:02:23] lake. We're kind of, we
[1:02:24] kind of
[1:02:25] like having not the
[1:02:26] best
[1:02:26] boat
[1:02:27] launch because then other
[1:02:27] people
[1:02:29] from
[1:02:29] uh other lakes
[1:02:30] don't come there and it
[1:02:31] stays
[1:02:32] kind of a private lake that way
[1:02:33] Um
[1:02:34] The thing about
[1:02:35] the fees
[1:02:38] . Uh
[1:02:38] my dad
[1:02:40] said
[1:02:41] that um it's
[1:02:42] going
[1:02:43] up quite a bit, and
[1:02:43] it is. And
[1:02:45] if, if it
[1:02:45] does continue to
[1:02:47] raise in the price, I don't
[1:02:48] know that it's worth it unless
[1:02:48] we
[1:02:49] get
[1:02:49] a better, um
[1:02:52] , End result
[1:02:52] for
[1:02:53] us to
[1:02:54] be assessed at the
[1:02:54] end of the
[1:02:56] 10 years, close to
[1:02:56] $500 apiece
[1:02:58] every year. And
[1:02:58] then also
[1:03:01] , I
[1:03:01] appreciate
[1:03:02] our
[1:03:03] coordinator Evan showing
[1:03:03] up and
[1:03:05] but we don't, we would like
[1:03:05] to
[1:03:07] know who's kind of in charge of
[1:03:08] the whole thing and what our
[1:03:09] point person is
[1:03:10] , if
[1:03:10] not Evan
[1:03:11] ,
[1:03:12] is there anybody
[1:03:14] on the uh the
[1:03:14] lake itself that is in
[1:03:16] charge
[1:03:17] of putting a
[1:03:18] committee together
[1:03:19] um, as
[1:03:19] property
[1:03:21] owners because
[1:03:21] we're actually not
[1:03:22] really
[1:03:23] connected
[1:03:23] with him
[1:03:25] . In
[1:03:25] fact, I
[1:03:26] had to look it up
[1:03:27] , find out who
[1:03:28] our coordinator is, and I'm
[1:03:28] glad you're
[1:03:29] on there. I'm not
[1:03:30] sure what your position is. I
[1:03:31] think you're
[1:03:32] more of a
[1:03:32] a
[1:03:33] technical advisor
[1:03:34] , is
[1:03:34] that
[1:03:35] correct? Supervisor
[1:03:36] . Supervisor
[1:03:37] of him. Ok
[1:03:37] , so you're really
[1:03:38] in
[1:03:39] charge. Ok
[1:03:41] . Um, and
[1:03:41] then who is
[1:03:42] your
[1:03:44] , um, point person
[1:03:45] itself
[1:03:46] when you
[1:03:46] have questions
[1:03:47] about
[1:03:48] what's going
[1:03:48] on clearly, do
[1:03:49] you
[1:03:50] do you reach out to the
[1:03:51] property
[1:03:52] owners in
[1:03:52] personally?
[1:03:53] Yeah, I, if I'm going to talk
[1:03:54] ,
[1:03:55] I just need to come to the mic.
[1:03:55] Ok. It's ok. All
[1:03:57] right. And
[1:03:57] that's all I've got to say for
[1:03:57] now
[1:03:59] . Great
[1:03:59] . Thank you. Thank
[1:03:59] you, Joel. I reserve to say
[1:04:00] some more
[1:04:01] if
[1:04:01] I can, that'd
[1:04:02] That'd
[1:04:03] be good, yeah
[1:04:05] . Yeah
[1:04:06] , of
[1:04:06] course. Uh, yes, so
[1:04:08] , um, how
[1:04:08] are lake
[1:04:09] Management District's
[1:04:10] work. So, like I said, we do
[1:04:11] a
[1:04:11] 4
[1:04:12] and
[1:04:12] we
[1:04:13] hold annual meetings
[1:04:13] at the beginning
[1:04:14] of each year
[1:04:15] ,
[1:04:15] either JANUARY or FEBRUARY,
[1:04:16] depending
[1:04:17] on time
[1:04:17] . And so
[1:04:19] with
[1:04:20] those roles that we get a
[1:04:20] property owners
[1:04:21] , we
[1:04:22] send
[1:04:23] out
[1:04:24] communication to all property
[1:04:24] owners of when
[1:04:26] that
[1:04:26] annual
[1:04:27] meeting is going to be held
[1:04:28] .
[1:04:28] It's
[1:04:29] usually
[1:04:29] Evans'
[1:04:30] contact
[1:04:31] information on those. Um, I
[1:04:31] will say
[1:04:32] in
[1:04:33] recent years, um,
[1:04:34] we get great
[1:04:35] . Turnout from some
[1:04:35] of
[1:04:37] our LMDs
[1:04:38] , um, Big Lake
[1:04:39] , we
[1:04:40] usually
[1:04:40] get 70 people
[1:04:41] , I think,
[1:04:42] at this last
[1:04:43] annual meeting
[1:04:44] , um
[1:04:45] Lake Campbell and Erie, we
[1:04:46] get
[1:04:46] about 40
[1:04:47] or
[1:04:48] 50
[1:04:49] are LMDs 2 and 4
[1:04:49] we get a
[1:04:51] little lower turnout,
[1:04:51] um, but we do have
[1:04:53] those annual
[1:04:53] meetings every year, and that's
[1:04:54] where we sit
[1:04:55] down with the
[1:04:56] residents. We go over
[1:04:56] the
[1:04:56] annual
[1:04:58] report from the
[1:04:58] previous
[1:04:58] year of
[1:04:59] what treatments were
[1:05:00] done, when they were done, what
[1:05:02] survey work was
[1:05:02] done
[1:05:03] , what
[1:05:03] post-survey work
[1:05:04] was done and
[1:05:05] then we
[1:05:06] . Listen to the
[1:05:07] community on what worked, what
[1:05:07] didn't work
[1:05:09] , and our plans for
[1:05:10] next year before
[1:05:11] then we go out
[1:05:11] to bid for
[1:05:12] a new contractor
[1:05:13] . Um
[1:05:14] in recent
[1:05:14] years
[1:05:16] , our contractor
[1:05:18] has been for 2 years, so
[1:05:18] that's
[1:05:19] why last year and
[1:05:20] this year was
[1:05:20] the
[1:05:21] same company
[1:05:22] . This coming
[1:05:23] spring after that meeting
[1:05:24] , and
[1:05:25] we hear from the residents,
[1:05:25] we'll go out for
[1:05:27] another
[1:05:27] 2-year
[1:05:27] contract and so we do a
[1:05:29] public
[1:05:29] process for bidding
[1:05:31] whatever
[1:05:32] contractors are able to put
[1:05:32] in
[1:05:32] those bids
[1:05:33] , we
[1:05:34] then send those
[1:05:34] back out
[1:05:35] to
[1:05:36] whoever attended
[1:05:36] the meeting to
[1:05:38] give feedback on
[1:05:39] which ones they would prefer to
[1:05:39] hire
[1:05:40] , and then Evan and I go
[1:05:41] through
[1:05:41] the
[1:05:43] contracting process
[1:05:43] I think
[1:05:44] those were
[1:05:45] the
[1:05:45] questions, but it is
[1:05:45] a contract
[1:05:46] with the
[1:05:48] purveyor to do
[1:05:49] the
[1:05:50] work and this is what they're
[1:05:52] To spray
[1:05:52] whatever they're
[1:05:53] saying. I
[1:05:54] mean, it says in the
[1:05:55] contract what they're going to
[1:05:56] do. Correct, yep, and in the
[1:05:57] contract it has
[1:05:58] that layout of
[1:05:59] Evan mentioned of
[1:05:59] they
[1:06:00] must
[1:06:01] post to the public. They must
[1:06:01] apply
[1:06:03] these, they must get
[1:06:03] these permits from the state
[1:06:04] .
[1:06:05] They must spray 10 amount
[1:06:06] of
[1:06:06] times
[1:06:07] on
[1:06:07] these locations based
[1:06:08] on the
[1:06:09] survey work, and then
[1:06:10] again they must do that
[1:06:10] post-treatment
[1:06:12] survey and a
[1:06:13] final report for the community
[1:06:14] .
[1:06:14] Right
[1:06:15] . But you have
[1:06:16] been the
[1:06:17] supervisor for a
[1:06:18] few years now
[1:06:18] .
[1:06:19] I'm almost
[1:06:21] 44 years, yeah
[1:06:23] . Ok
[1:06:23] .
[1:06:24] Thank you. Just for my
[1:06:25] background, we're getting a
[1:06:26] whole lot better communication
[1:06:26] we used to
[1:06:27] , but
[1:06:28] it is, it is
[1:06:28] your right to ask for
[1:06:29] that
[1:06:30] better communication, so
[1:06:31] absolutely
[1:06:32] . Denver, do you want
[1:06:32] to speak
[1:06:33] ? Denver Fox
[1:06:41] . Uh
[1:06:41] , my
[1:06:42] name's Denver Fox. I
[1:06:43] live on
[1:06:44] the south end of the lake
[1:06:45] , and
[1:06:46] yeah, I guess I would
[1:06:46] pretty
[1:06:48] much echo their entire
[1:06:49] sentiment as far
[1:06:50] as the
[1:06:50] the
[1:06:51] fees
[1:06:52] , uh, yeah, it's being
[1:06:53] posed as this 5% increase
[1:06:54] , but
[1:06:55] it's actually far more than
[1:06:56] that initially, and
[1:06:57] then, and
[1:06:58] then it's a 5%. So it's
[1:06:59] yeah,
[1:06:59] little, little
[1:07:00] false
[1:07:00] advertisement
[1:07:02] as far as how
[1:07:02] that goes. Anybody reading the
[1:07:03] numbers can
[1:07:04] clearly see that,
[1:07:04] uh
[1:07:06] . And
[1:07:06] yeah
[1:07:06] , the
[1:07:08] job I would
[1:07:08] be very curious as far as
[1:07:09] oversight, as
[1:07:10] far as
[1:07:11] how the
[1:07:11] job is actually being
[1:07:13] . Managed
[1:07:13] like after the fact
[1:07:15] . Uh
[1:07:17] , it
[1:07:18] should, the, the job is clearly
[1:07:18] not getting done, and
[1:07:19] so I
[1:07:20] don't know where the boots on
[1:07:20] the ground are
[1:07:21] as
[1:07:22] far as
[1:07:23] who's
[1:07:24] who's checking out the job of
[1:07:25] this third
[1:07:27] party entity. I
[1:07:27] was
[1:07:27] hired to do a
[1:07:28] job, it would be
[1:07:30] .
[1:07:31] Inspected and, and made sure
[1:07:31] that it was done right
[1:07:32] , and I
[1:07:33] feel like that's a completely
[1:07:33] fair ask
[1:07:35] , especially with the
[1:07:35] ,
[1:07:36] with the rates going up
[1:07:37] , uh,
[1:07:38] just does not seem
[1:07:38] like
[1:07:39] we're
[1:07:40] getting anything but what we're
[1:07:42] paying into, uh
[1:07:42] . It's
[1:07:44] , yeah,
[1:07:44] it's hard for me as far as
[1:07:45] increasing
[1:07:46] the
[1:07:46] rates when the
[1:07:47] job doesn't seem to be getting
[1:07:47] done to
[1:07:48] begin with
[1:07:51] . The
[1:07:51] 3rd
[1:07:52] point
[1:07:54] . Excuse me, would be
[1:07:55] the
[1:07:56] communication. Uh, I've only
[1:07:56] lived there
[1:07:58] for
[1:07:58] , I've owned the
[1:07:58] property for 3 years now and
[1:07:59] I've only
[1:08:01] lived there
[1:08:01] for 1, so
[1:08:02] I don't have a
[1:08:03] lot of
[1:08:04] background
[1:08:04] . I
[1:08:05] will say I have
[1:08:06] not gotten any of these
[1:08:06] notifications, nor have I
[1:08:07] gotten
[1:08:09] any ballots, so I am one
[1:08:09] that
[1:08:11] did
[1:08:12] not vote
[1:08:13] . However, I
[1:08:14] also did not even know
[1:08:15] that
[1:08:16] they, there was a vote. Now,
[1:08:17] the first year
[1:08:17] , the first year
[1:08:18] I did, and
[1:08:18] I
[1:08:18] did
[1:08:20] vote, uh, but
[1:08:21] yeah, I, I have
[1:08:22] not been privy
[1:08:23] to any of these other
[1:08:23] boats,
[1:08:23] and
[1:08:24] maybe
[1:08:25] that's an individual
[1:08:26] issue, but I know none of
[1:08:26] my
[1:08:27] neighbors have been getting
[1:08:27] the
[1:08:29] notifications either. Uh, I did
[1:08:30] not get a
[1:08:31] notification for this
[1:08:32] meeting. The only reason
[1:08:33] I'm
[1:08:33] here is
[1:08:34] because Stan actually
[1:08:34] called me up
[1:08:36] and asked if I was
[1:08:36] coming to
[1:08:36] it. Um
[1:08:38] , So
[1:08:38] I don't
[1:08:39] know what that overall
[1:08:40] communication looks like or
[1:08:41] what it looks like in like in
[1:08:42] guys' other districts
[1:08:42] if it's
[1:08:43] the same same
[1:08:44] type
[1:08:45] of
[1:08:45] communication, but if there's
[1:08:45] any
[1:08:47] Way
[1:08:48] of getting an email
[1:08:49] list and obviously the ballots
[1:08:50] would have to be a
[1:08:51] physical
[1:08:52] ballot, but sending out an
[1:08:53] email notification
[1:08:54] , phone calls
[1:08:54] something as
[1:08:56] far as letting
[1:08:56] people know what is, what is
[1:08:57] going on
[1:08:58] and
[1:08:58] that
[1:08:59] there's
[1:08:59] meetings and that there's a
[1:09:00] vote
[1:09:00] to
[1:09:01] be
[1:09:03] Yeah, ask mine, but
[1:09:03] .
[1:09:03] That's
[1:09:05] all
[1:09:06] I've got. Thank you
[1:09:09] .
[1:09:10] Is there anybody online you'd
[1:09:10] like to comment
[1:09:15] ? Anybody
[1:09:15] Langler comment
[1:09:22] . You
[1:09:23] want
[1:09:23] to
[1:09:24] close the public
[1:09:24] hearing. I
[1:09:25] certainly
[1:09:25] would like to make a
[1:09:26] motion to close the public
[1:09:26] hearing
[1:09:28] . And I will
[1:09:28] second that
[1:09:30] Let's move to 2nd to close the
[1:09:32] public hearings
[1:09:33] , setting the
[1:09:33] rates
[1:09:34] for the lake
[1:09:35] Management
[1:09:37] District 4 any more discussion
[1:09:37] on that
[1:09:39] ? Um
[1:09:39] , just one thing, I
[1:09:41] think
[1:09:42] definitely communications
[1:09:42] could be better or the
[1:09:43] email
[1:09:44] list, I mean, technology is
[1:09:44] much better than
[1:09:45] it used to be
[1:09:46] 15
[1:09:46] years ago, so we ought
[1:09:48] to do
[1:09:48] a better job getting that
[1:09:49] communications
[1:09:50] out there, and
[1:09:51] it's easy once you get a
[1:09:52] list
[1:09:52] to have
[1:09:53] that available. I don't
[1:09:53] know if you want to comment on
[1:09:54] that
[1:09:55] at all, Jen? Yeah, I can
[1:09:55] just explain
[1:09:57] . I, I
[1:09:57] think a part
[1:09:57] of it
[1:09:59] , um, emails
[1:09:59] , obviously we
[1:10:00] don't get, so I
[1:10:01] just the
[1:10:02] process itself of how we get
[1:10:03] those addresses and
[1:10:03] how ballots
[1:10:04] are sent out. So we work with
[1:10:04] the
[1:10:06] assessor's office who gives
[1:10:07] us that role. Sounds like
[1:10:08] there
[1:10:08] might be an error there, so we
[1:10:09] can definitely. Talk to
[1:10:10] that
[1:10:10] office and we
[1:10:11] got last year
[1:10:11] when we went
[1:10:12] through this, we
[1:10:13] got a couple of people saying,
[1:10:14] I don't live on the lake. I
[1:10:14] don't know why
[1:10:15] I got this, and
[1:10:16] vice versa. So there's always
[1:10:17] a
[1:10:17] little bit of cleanup and happy
[1:10:18] to do that, but that's the
[1:10:19] role
[1:10:20] we send it to is through that
[1:10:20] assessor's office, and that's
[1:10:22] the 48 parcels
[1:10:22] you see
[1:10:23] , um, for
[1:10:24] emails, obviously we don't have
[1:10:25] that internally
[1:10:26] , so it's all
[1:10:26] just been word of mouth. I
[1:10:27] think that's why
[1:10:28] Big Lake and
[1:10:29] Lake
[1:10:29] Campbell is
[1:10:31] , we had people
[1:10:31] who are really interested, they
[1:10:32] reach out and then they
[1:10:33] share
[1:10:33] it with their
[1:10:33] 50 neighbors who
[1:10:34] we don't
[1:10:35] have their email
[1:10:36] addresses for, and so that's
[1:10:36] something i
[1:10:37] would love to get
[1:10:38] as many email addresses as we
[1:10:38] can
[1:10:40] . On our list
[1:10:40] serves that we
[1:10:40] that
[1:10:42] I've been builds and
[1:10:43] manages and so
[1:10:44] every time he
[1:10:45] gets someone who emails us
[1:10:46] , he
[1:10:47] adds them to that, so they get
[1:10:47] that annual meeting invite
[1:10:49] and
[1:10:49] that's something, yes, we can
[1:10:49] always
[1:10:51] improve
[1:10:51] upon and as much
[1:10:52] as you all talk to each other
[1:10:53] ,
[1:10:54] that's the best way to do it
[1:10:56] .
[1:10:56] Thank
[1:10:58] you. Any
[1:10:58] more discussion
[1:10:59] on closing
[1:11:00] the public hearing?
[1:11:00] All those
[1:11:02] in favor
[1:11:02] of
[1:11:02] signify
[1:11:03] say aye
[1:11:04] , aye
[1:11:05] . I suppose
[1:11:07] . Motion
[1:11:07] passes
[1:11:10] . All the phones
[1:11:11] . This is
[1:11:12] just closing the
[1:11:13] public hearing
[1:11:14] is what it was, so we haven't
[1:11:16] voted on any
[1:11:18] . Motion or
[1:11:18] anything
[1:11:20] . Um, commissioner
[1:11:21] .
[1:11:21] Browning
[1:11:22] , any thoughts, any
[1:11:23] questions
[1:11:25] ? Just that I've been,
[1:11:25] i've been a big
[1:11:27] lake for
[1:11:27] 25
[1:11:27] years
[1:11:30] , and this, it is so much
[1:11:30] better used
[1:11:31] to be, but
[1:11:32] it
[1:11:32] really is torturous
[1:11:33] to
[1:11:34] get
[1:11:34] people involved and so
[1:11:35] this
[1:11:36] really is something that a
[1:11:37] combination
[1:11:38] of assessors, but
[1:11:39] then making sure the auditor,
[1:11:39] because the auditor sends
[1:11:40] out
[1:11:41] the
[1:11:41] the
[1:11:42] so that connection
[1:11:43] has
[1:11:43] to be made
[1:11:44] solid that
[1:11:45] the
[1:11:46] assessor clearly identifies all
[1:11:46] of
[1:11:47] the lots that are on
[1:11:48] the
[1:11:48] lake and then gives
[1:11:49] us this to
[1:11:50] the auditor and the auditor
[1:11:52] gets those ballots out
[1:11:52] . So
[1:11:53] we've got some work to do and
[1:11:54] Because it
[1:11:55] really
[1:11:56] everybody has
[1:11:57] to have a voice in this because
[1:11:57] it really does matter
[1:11:58] . And yes,
[1:11:59] there are
[1:11:59] years sometimes when
[1:11:59] the
[1:12:01] The um
[1:12:03] Um
[1:12:04] , water lilies
[1:12:05] just don't seem to quite
[1:12:05] go
[1:12:06] away the way they have in the
[1:12:06] past
[1:12:08] . Some people would like to
[1:12:08] see the water lilies there to
[1:12:10] get more fish, but then that's,
[1:12:10] that's another
[1:12:12] thing
[1:12:12] . But still
[1:12:13] Evan's been really easy to
[1:12:14] work
[1:12:15] with and so
[1:12:15] our
[1:12:16] , our system
[1:12:17] right now or the people
[1:12:17] involved are the best
[1:12:18] we've had
[1:12:19] in a long time
[1:12:21] . Um
[1:12:21] , but it's
[1:12:22] also yours
[1:12:23] to
[1:12:23] hold us and
[1:12:23] them
[1:12:24] accountable
[1:12:25] , so, but
[1:12:26] , but
[1:12:26] getting some of your
[1:12:27] neighbors
[1:12:28] involved in this, make sure
[1:12:29] they realize
[1:12:30] that they have a
[1:12:31] voice and need to share that
[1:12:31] voice
[1:12:32] is really important
[1:12:34] . Just
[1:12:35] clarify for myself we have to
[1:12:37] If we're gonna change that, we
[1:12:38] have
[1:12:39] to
[1:12:39] vote
[1:12:40] by NOVEMBER or
[1:12:40] when
[1:12:41] do we have to vote? What's
[1:12:44] OCTOBER 31st to go into effect
[1:12:44] for 2027
[1:12:46] . To get it
[1:12:48] On the new
[1:12:48] assessment has to be
[1:12:50] OCTOBER
[1:12:50] 31st
[1:12:51] . Um, thank
[1:12:52] you very much
[1:12:53] for that
[1:12:53] . I would
[1:12:55] I like
[1:12:57] to
[1:12:57] postpone our
[1:12:58] vote until
[1:12:59] Later
[1:12:59] ,
[1:13:00] after we get some of these
[1:13:00] issues
[1:13:02] . Help
[1:13:02] and we can deal
[1:13:04] with one of our uh
[1:13:04] Um
[1:13:06] , Consent
[1:13:06] agendas is
[1:13:06] my
[1:13:07] thought. I
[1:13:08] would
[1:13:09] like that as well. The middle
[1:13:11] of OCTOBER or so forth is what
[1:13:11] I
[1:13:13] would suggest
[1:13:13] . So you want
[1:13:14] a
[1:13:15] motion to do that? I make a
[1:13:17] motion with that we hold
[1:13:19] this
[1:13:19] vote until
[1:13:20] middle OCTOBER
[1:13:21] , and
[1:13:22] we, we can put it on consent
[1:13:23] agenda after we
[1:13:24] get some
[1:13:25] , some
[1:13:25] confirmation
[1:13:26] that we've done
[1:13:27] some of the processes to make
[1:13:27] sure people
[1:13:28] are
[1:13:28] adequately
[1:13:29] notified, give you all a
[1:13:31] chance
[1:13:31] to speak to us and make sure we
[1:13:32] can
[1:13:34] . Address everything that
[1:13:34] concerns you
[1:13:35] . And
[1:13:36] i will
[1:13:36] second
[1:13:36] that
[1:13:37] , move
[1:13:38] to 2nd that we
[1:13:38] will
[1:13:38] hold
[1:13:40] the vote on our consent
[1:13:40] agenda in the middle
[1:13:42] of
[1:13:42] OCTOBER
[1:13:43] sometime after we've dealt with
[1:13:43] some
[1:13:44] of these issues
[1:13:45] . Any
[1:13:46] more
[1:13:47] discussion on that
[1:13:47] ? All those
[1:13:49] in favor say aye. Aye, all
[1:13:50] those opposed
[1:13:51] , motion passes
[1:13:51] .
[1:13:52] Thank you
[1:13:53] very much. Thank you,
[1:13:54] commissioners. Thank
[1:13:55] you
[1:13:55] .
[1:13:56] Anything else to come for us at
[1:13:56] this time
[1:14:00] ? So
[1:14:00] with that, we're
[1:14:01] adjourn. Thank you
[1:14:02] . Yeah
[1:14:02] .
[1:14:03] Thanks
[1:14:11] onsent
[1:14:13] agenda items
[1:14:15] . Mr
[1:14:15] . Burns, do you
[1:14:16] have anything you wanna talk
[1:14:17] about? I've got a
[1:14:18] few here
[1:14:19] .
[1:14:19] Let's look at
[1:14:22] , uh, number 10
[1:14:22] under Parks and Rec
[1:14:24] . This
[1:14:24] contract for Hilt Creek Park,
[1:14:25] um
[1:14:33] , Guaymas Island
[1:14:33] , and uh
[1:14:34] I'd
[1:14:35] like to reiterate what
[1:16:50] Good morning. I
[1:16:51] call
[1:16:51] this
[1:16:51] discussion of Skogee County
[1:16:52] Commissioners back to order. It
[1:16:53] is
[1:16:54] 11 o'clock on
[1:16:56] SEPTEMBER 8th
[1:16:56] ,
[1:16:57] 2026, we
[1:16:57] are here for
[1:16:58] our
[1:16:59] consent agenda
[1:17:01] , commissioner
[1:17:01] Burns is gone
[1:17:03] today
[1:17:03] , so
[1:17:03] Commissioner Browning, do you
[1:17:04] have anything
[1:17:05] ? To talk about? I
[1:17:06] do
[1:17:06] . I
[1:17:08] , uh, number 4
[1:17:10] getting a
[1:17:10] interlocal agreement with the
[1:17:11] King County
[1:17:12] Medical
[1:17:12] Examiner's
[1:17:13] Office for provision
[1:17:14] of autopsy
[1:17:14] and
[1:17:15] forensic
[1:17:16] pathology. Many of
[1:17:17] you know that
[1:17:17] our
[1:17:19] coroner is
[1:17:19] uh
[1:17:19] is leaving and
[1:17:20] going
[1:17:21] to
[1:17:21] Idaho
[1:17:22] and
[1:17:23] um in
[1:17:24] the meantime, uh
[1:17:25] . The
[1:17:25] people
[1:17:26] who are filling
[1:17:27] in or
[1:17:28] potentially filling in or not
[1:17:28] corners for
[1:17:30] that matter
[1:17:30] , we
[1:17:31] know, so
[1:17:32] it's a necessary
[1:17:33] function for doing any
[1:17:34] real
[1:17:35] involved uh evaluation of
[1:17:35] a of
[1:17:37] a of a a
[1:17:37] . A
[1:17:39] death's body that
[1:17:40] needs to be addressed
[1:17:42] . Also,
[1:17:42] the
[1:17:43] facilities management, we
[1:17:44] are
[1:17:45] , uh, finally
[1:17:46] . Finally, I
[1:17:46] should, I should
[1:17:48] leave this one
[1:17:49] for you, but because it's been
[1:17:49] even more a part of
[1:17:50] this, but
[1:17:51] still, I'll jump
[1:17:51] , I'll steal it
[1:17:53] We're getting a complete repair
[1:17:54] of
[1:17:55] the sewer system outlined in
[1:17:56] the
[1:17:58] building documents for the
[1:17:58] Skagit County Community
[1:17:59] Justice
[1:18:00] Center. For many of you who've
[1:18:00] been around and listen
[1:18:01] to this,
[1:18:02] the building kind of settled a
[1:18:02] bit
[1:18:03] and it
[1:18:04] . Created a
[1:18:06] Uh
[1:18:09] , a
[1:18:11] non-gravitational the men's
[1:18:11] restroom
[1:18:11] and
[1:18:12] the
[1:18:13] um for
[1:18:13] the
[1:18:14] officers
[1:18:16] . Which
[1:18:17] The
[1:18:17] sewer pipe
[1:18:18] wasn't draining properly, so
[1:18:19] they've got
[1:18:20] to redo
[1:18:21] . It was
[1:18:22] draining it in the
[1:18:24] wrong
[1:18:25] direction, so
[1:18:26] , um, finally in
[1:18:27] the public works, we have a
[1:18:27] contract
[1:18:29] with Morgan Free Works
[1:18:29] for the
[1:18:31] abandoned railroad
[1:18:32] bridge debris removal project
[1:18:33] .
[1:18:33] This one's been on the, taken
[1:18:34] off the books
[1:18:35] the last two
[1:18:36] times in a row, but finally
[1:18:36] it's on
[1:18:38] , and that's just where
[1:18:38] we have a lot
[1:18:39] of
[1:18:40] debris behind
[1:18:40] the bridges, and we've
[1:18:42] got
[1:18:42] potentially
[1:18:43] . A flood season
[1:18:44] , in
[1:18:44] fact
[1:18:45] , flood season
[1:18:47] . Awareness
[1:18:47] starts next week, so we're in
[1:18:49] preparation for
[1:18:49] year
[1:18:51] 2027 and
[1:18:52] late 2026 floods
[1:18:53] , and
[1:18:53] we can't
[1:18:54] have that debris piled up
[1:18:55] in
[1:18:56] our dock
[1:18:58] . And that number 12
[1:19:00] ,
[1:19:00] uh, they revised the contract
[1:19:01] and so
[1:19:02] it
[1:19:03] was
[1:19:05] 207,500, but
[1:19:05] to
[1:19:05] correct the
[1:19:07] numbers
[1:19:09] is 207,000,
[1:19:09] um, so it's
[1:19:10] an updated number,
[1:19:10] so
[1:19:12] . The number correct
[1:19:13] number
[1:19:14] is 207,000
[1:19:16] to remove
[1:19:18] . Remove
[1:19:18] and put
[1:19:19] down river the logs
[1:19:19] that
[1:19:20] are
[1:19:21] built up on the
[1:19:25] railroad bridge next to
[1:19:25] Highway
[1:19:25] 9 up there
[1:19:26] . So
[1:19:26] they
[1:19:27] can't take
[1:19:27] them out, they just break them
[1:19:28] loose
[1:19:29] . They have to
[1:19:29] , they can't
[1:19:30] remove them
[1:19:32] . They can break
[1:19:32] them loose and shove them
[1:19:34] downstreams so they have to go
[1:19:35] downstream and so
[1:19:36] . All the
[1:19:37] other bridges along
[1:19:38] the
[1:19:38] way
[1:19:39] potentially could get another
[1:19:39] log. That was
[1:19:41] my
[1:19:41] thought, but
[1:19:43] that's the, the rules we have
[1:19:44] to do when we deal with
[1:19:45] .
[1:19:46] Dealing with those things
[1:19:49] . Um
[1:19:52] ,
[1:19:52] One thing
[1:19:52] , uh, number 3 is
[1:19:56] , uh,
[1:19:56] agreement with
[1:19:58] our
[1:19:59] economic
[1:19:59] development funding model
[1:20:01] with
[1:20:02] Cli for supporting
[1:20:03] their John
[1:20:04] Jones
[1:20:05] , John
[1:20:05] Lir
[1:20:05] railroad
[1:20:06] crossing project
[1:20:07] , um, that was
[1:20:08] one of
[1:20:08] our
[1:20:08] 0.09
[1:20:10] economic
[1:20:10] development funding
[1:20:12] , um, we're
[1:20:13] going to compensate them for
[1:20:14] roughly
[1:20:15] $750,000 to help
[1:20:16] with
[1:20:17] that project. It really helped
[1:20:17] the
[1:20:18] traffic
[1:20:19] around Cedar Wly to
[1:20:20] be able to go farther
[1:20:21] . North to
[1:20:22] get
[1:20:23] around some of
[1:20:24] the traffic
[1:20:24] issues are getting
[1:20:25] in Cli
[1:20:28] . Also
[1:20:28] number 7 and
[1:20:28] 8 with
[1:20:30] the Office
[1:20:30] of
[1:20:30] Juvenile Court in
[1:20:32] a
[1:20:32] local
[1:20:33] cooperative agreement with
[1:20:33] Cedar Wooley
[1:20:35] and also with
[1:20:35] the
[1:20:35] Connor School District
[1:20:37] to
[1:20:37] help
[1:20:38] fund
[1:20:38] their
[1:20:39] becca case
[1:20:39] manager
[1:20:42] position to deal with
[1:20:43] truancy
[1:20:44] petitions and those issues with
[1:20:44] students in
[1:20:46] those two school
[1:20:46] districts
[1:20:48] . Um
[1:20:51] , Number 11 is a
[1:20:53] Agreement
[1:20:53] , personal service
[1:20:55] agreement with 9 line
[1:20:55] veteran
[1:20:56] services
[1:20:57] where I'd
[1:20:58] case
[1:20:58] management
[1:20:59] and
[1:20:59] emergency
[1:21:00] financial assistance for
[1:21:01] Ske
[1:21:02] County veterans
[1:21:04] , um, this
[1:21:05] amendment increases case
[1:21:06] management from one
[1:21:08] . To
[1:21:09] 1.550s
[1:21:09] adjusting hours per week
[1:21:10] to
[1:21:11] work on the
[1:21:11] site to perform
[1:21:13] other responsibilities than
[1:21:13] just the
[1:21:15] budget categories, so
[1:21:16] those are
[1:21:17] good things going on
[1:21:18] there with our veterans in
[1:21:19] our
[1:21:20] community
[1:21:22] . Really appreciate
[1:21:22] Chris's work to make sure we
[1:21:23] have all that
[1:21:24] stuff happens
[1:21:25] that our vet connects
[1:21:28] . Um, and
[1:21:29] that's all I have. Tom
[1:21:30] , did you
[1:21:31] come in to
[1:21:31] talk about something
[1:21:31] ?
[1:21:35] We
[1:21:36] talked already a little
[1:21:36] bit of
[1:21:37] number 12
[1:21:38] , we're
[1:21:38] reducing that
[1:21:40] from 207 to
[1:21:42] 2075
[1:21:43] to
[1:21:44] 207,000, so
[1:21:47] . All right, Tom
[1:21:47] Weller
[1:21:47] , county
[1:21:49] engineer, um,
[1:21:49] just wanted to be here in case
[1:21:50] you had
[1:21:51] any questions in
[1:21:52] regards to the
[1:21:53] um Morgan
[1:21:54] Tree
[1:21:54] Works contract
[1:21:55] in the
[1:21:56] background and reasoning for
[1:21:56] that, so
[1:21:58] . We, we did
[1:21:58] talk
[1:21:58] about
[1:21:59] they
[1:22:00] released them and they go
[1:22:01] down and get stuck in another,
[1:22:01] is
[1:22:03] there any obligation to kind
[1:22:03] of follow
[1:22:05] them down so
[1:22:05] they get
[1:22:05] past
[1:22:06] all
[1:22:07] the bridges. Well
[1:22:07] ,
[1:22:08] well, the hope
[1:22:09] is that
[1:22:09] they get
[1:22:10] hung up in places before they
[1:22:10] get to
[1:22:12] other people's bridges
[1:22:12] ,
[1:22:13] but
[1:22:14] we do, um, do our best
[1:22:14] to
[1:22:16] coordinate and, and let our
[1:22:18] um
[1:22:18] downstream uh partners know
[1:22:19] that, hey
[1:22:20] , we're releasing the
[1:22:21] logs
[1:22:22] , um, and then
[1:22:23] , uh, we just
[1:22:23] uh, have to
[1:22:25] see what
[1:22:25] , uh,
[1:22:26] nature has in store for us
[1:22:28] . But
[1:22:28] that's part of the permit
[1:22:29] process
[1:22:29] . We can't remove them.
[1:22:30] We have to release them
[1:22:31] to let
[1:22:31] them
[1:22:32] float downstream
[1:22:32] .
[1:22:32] Excellent question
[1:22:33] . Yes
[1:22:34] , that
[1:22:35] certainly used to be the case
[1:22:35] that we
[1:22:36] could just drag them
[1:22:37] out and, and, uh, use
[1:22:38] them
[1:22:39] other places, but now we are
[1:22:39] legally bound to
[1:22:40] Simply
[1:22:42] , uh,
[1:22:43] release them downstream
[1:22:43] . Yep
[1:22:46] .
[1:22:46] Thank you
[1:22:48] . Are there any
[1:22:48] other
[1:22:48] questions
[1:22:49] or
[1:22:50] comments on our
[1:22:52] consent agenda? Well, number 13
[1:22:52] or 15
[1:22:54] is one that matters to me
[1:22:55] just because
[1:22:56] uh we have
[1:22:57] personal service agreement with
[1:22:59] the public safety
[1:23:00] ,
[1:23:01] psychological services to
[1:23:02] provide psychological exams
[1:23:03] for
[1:23:04] the potential existing
[1:23:04] employees
[1:23:05] for Saskatchew County
[1:23:06] Sheriff's Office. I just hope
[1:23:08] everybody realizes how much
[1:23:08] time and effort we
[1:23:10] put
[1:23:10] into
[1:23:10] making sure that
[1:23:12] they
[1:23:12] are
[1:23:13] perfectly designed to
[1:23:14] be part
[1:23:15] of our sheriff's
[1:23:15] team, and
[1:23:16] we
[1:23:17] were very proud of our
[1:23:17] sheriff's department. The way
[1:23:19] they
[1:23:19] handle tough situations
[1:23:20] and it's
[1:23:21] partly because of the
[1:23:21] ,
[1:23:22] the testing that we put
[1:23:23] them
[1:23:24] through to make sure that
[1:23:24] they're, they are
[1:23:26] . The right
[1:23:26] person for
[1:23:28] Skagit County
[1:23:28] Sheriff's Department
[1:23:30] .
[1:23:30] Absolutely
[1:23:31] , and uh we
[1:23:33] definitely need to support all
[1:23:33] those individuals that put
[1:23:34] that
[1:23:35] uniform on every day to go to
[1:23:37] work and I
[1:23:37] really appreciate
[1:23:38] what all they do
[1:23:40] . So, do you
[1:23:40] have
[1:23:41] a motion with that, I'd
[1:23:42] love to make a motion
[1:23:43] to
[1:23:44] approve the
[1:23:44] consentage of items
[1:23:46] 1 through 16
[1:23:46] , including
[1:23:48] all
[1:23:49] items including ratification
[1:23:49] vouchers
[1:23:50] and warrants for
[1:23:50] Tuesday
[1:23:51] , SEPTEMBER 8th
[1:23:53] , 2026
[1:23:53] .
[1:23:53] And I will
[1:23:55] second that. Let's
[1:23:55] move to 2
[1:23:55] to approve
[1:23:57] the
[1:23:58] consent agenda items 1
[1:23:59] through
[1:23:59] 16
[1:24:00] , including all items
[1:24:02] requiring ratification,
[1:24:02] vouchers and warrants for
[1:24:04] Tuesday, SEPTEMBER 8th
[1:24:06] , 2026.
[1:24:06] Any
[1:24:07] more
[1:24:08] discussion? All those
[1:24:09] in favor say aye
[1:24:09] . Aye
[1:24:10] , hold
[1:24:11] opposed, motion passes
[1:24:13] . Thank
[1:24:14] you very much. Anything else
[1:24:14] come for
[1:24:15] us at
[1:24:16] this time
[1:24:16] ?
[1:24:16] That's everything
[1:24:18] until 11:30.
[1:24:18] So, with that
[1:24:20] , we will be back
[1:24:20] in session at
[1:24:22] 11:30
[1:24:22] with
[1:24:22] our
[1:24:24] county commissioners, public
[1:24:25] comment
[1:24:26] , county and individual
[1:24:27] success stories of
[1:24:29] miscellaneous announcements.
[1:24:29] What that we adjourned till
[1:24:30] 11:30
[1:24:31] . Thank you
[1:24:43] over
[1:24:44] backwards to be
[1:24:46] . Who
[1:24:46] I've come
[1:24:46] to know as
[1:24:48] ladies
[1:24:48] and gentlemen
[1:24:48] and
[1:24:50] not whining
[1:24:51] , aggravating
[1:24:51] people
[1:24:53] . Anyway
[1:24:54] , good luck
[1:24:55] , guys
[1:24:55] Thank you
[1:24:57] . Thank you. Just to
[1:24:58] correct on the
[1:24:59] punch
[1:24:59] card
[1:25:00] turning in, it's a
[1:25:00] ride for
[1:25:02] rides, so if it was good for
[1:25:04] a
[1:25:04] driver and car
[1:25:05] . The new
[1:25:06] system
[1:25:07] would be driver
[1:25:08] and car.
[1:25:08] There's no
[1:25:09] dollar change. It's
[1:25:09] the
[1:25:11] same thing. It's just, it's
[1:25:11] on
[1:25:13] the e-ticketing instead of
[1:25:13] a
[1:25:13] paper. So
[1:25:15] it's the
[1:25:15] same value.
[1:25:15] There's no
[1:25:16] . Ok
[1:25:19] . Anybody else
[1:25:21] ?
[1:25:22] Like to comment
[1:25:30] ? So
[1:25:31] we
[1:25:31] have
[1:25:31] on
[1:25:32] here a
[1:25:33] potential
[1:25:33] executive
[1:25:34] session. Um, do
[1:25:35] we have
[1:26:49] Good morning. Like all
[1:26:49] the
[1:26:50] sessions
[1:26:50] cutting commissioners
[1:26:51] back to order
[1:26:51] . It's 11:30
[1:26:52] on
[1:26:52] SEPTEMBER 8th
[1:26:53] , 2026
[1:26:54] ,
[1:26:55] Commissioner Burns is gone
[1:26:55] today, so we are here
[1:26:57] for our
[1:26:58] um county commissioners
[1:26:59] , public
[1:27:00] comment, counting the
[1:27:01] success
[1:27:02] stories of
[1:27:02] miscellaneous
[1:27:02] announcements
[1:27:04] . From the public,
[1:27:04] do we
[1:27:06] have
[1:27:06] any
[1:27:06] individuals who
[1:27:07] like to comment
[1:27:11] ? Once again
[1:27:12] ,
[1:27:13] you have 3 minutes
[1:27:13] , the
[1:27:14] buzzer
[1:27:15] will do it 2
[1:27:16] minutes and
[1:27:17] you
[1:27:17] can drop your public comments
[1:27:18] on the thing when you're done
[1:27:19] .
[1:27:20] Oh, sure
[1:27:20] , I'm honestly not a
[1:27:20] huge fan of
[1:27:22] talking
[1:27:22] , so
[1:27:22] i
[1:27:22] just
[1:27:22] came
[1:27:24] today. Um, my name is
[1:27:25] Amanda Toscano. I'm a
[1:27:27] local
[1:27:27] realtor. I
[1:27:29] have regular issues
[1:27:29] with the planning
[1:27:30] department. I
[1:27:31] sent you
[1:27:31] guys
[1:27:31] an
[1:27:33] email about
[1:27:33] the planning
[1:27:35] department
[1:27:35] oversight two
[1:27:36] years ago
[1:27:38] , and no
[1:27:38] one
[1:27:39] ever
[1:27:40] responded. So I'm here
[1:27:40] today to
[1:27:42] Talk
[1:27:42] about
[1:27:42] , um,
[1:27:43] Hackett v
[1:27:44] . Epa
[1:27:45] or saci, pardon
[1:27:45] me
[1:27:49] , vepa determinations for
[1:27:51] wetland definitions I would
[1:27:51] like
[1:27:53] . I have talked to the
[1:27:54] wetlands people
[1:27:56] , specifically
[1:27:58] Leah Forbes
[1:27:58] directly about this
[1:27:58] and
[1:28:00] she's disregarded the fact
[1:28:01] that the laws have changed
[1:28:02] . And
[1:28:03] um
[1:28:05] Properties all over the
[1:28:07] county are being determined
[1:28:08] wetlands when they're, they
[1:28:09] don't meet
[1:28:09] the
[1:28:10] definition. So
[1:28:11] i
[1:28:11] printed it out for you so you
[1:28:12] could read it
[1:28:13] . I
[1:28:14] also have
[1:28:15] You,
[1:28:16] no, you
[1:28:16] can't build it if your
[1:28:18] house burned down in
[1:28:18] a floodway
[1:28:19] I
[1:28:20] rewrote the codes for you
[1:28:21] just based on the codes that
[1:28:22] are
[1:28:23] already there that gives
[1:28:23] you a yes instead of
[1:28:25] a no
[1:28:25] . Um
[1:28:27] ,
[1:28:27] We're in
[1:28:27] a
[1:28:28] unique situation
[1:28:28] where
[1:28:29] This
[1:28:30] was
[1:28:30] all riverbed
[1:28:31] once, so if you
[1:28:32] really want to
[1:28:32] call it a wetland
[1:28:34] , you can, and
[1:28:34] I would like to see
[1:28:36] more
[1:28:36] support for
[1:28:37] our citizens
[1:28:38] . And
[1:28:39] less
[1:28:40] for
[1:28:41] regulatory bodies
[1:28:43] .
[1:28:43] Thank you. Thank you very much
[1:28:48] .
[1:28:48] Anybody else
[1:28:49] ? Ok
[1:28:56] . Good morning,
[1:28:57] Ken Dunn
[1:28:58] Vernon
[1:28:59] . Elka can't
[1:29:00] be
[1:29:01] here today. She has done
[1:29:01] a
[1:29:04] remarkable job of getting into
[1:29:05] the reality of best
[1:29:06] facilities
[1:29:06] and the danger
[1:29:08] they
[1:29:08] hold on a
[1:29:09] national level
[1:29:10] , Aaron
[1:29:10] Brockovich is doing
[1:29:12] the same
[1:29:12] regarding data
[1:29:12] centers
[1:29:13] . I tend
[1:29:14] to look around for patterns,
[1:29:15] and there is
[1:29:17] one pattern which
[1:29:17] jumps out at
[1:29:19] a person when
[1:29:19] looking at what is happening in
[1:29:22] the us, that is a pattern of
[1:29:24] callous exploitation of our
[1:29:26] natural resources and of the
[1:29:26] trust
[1:29:28] that
[1:29:28] people are taught in
[1:29:28] schools
[1:29:30] . Or
[1:29:30] government, even to
[1:29:31] the extent
[1:29:32] of infusing our food
[1:29:33] water, soil
[1:29:35] , and
[1:29:35] air
[1:29:35] with
[1:29:37] toxic
[1:29:37] substances. The pattern
[1:29:39] is
[1:29:39] happening concurrently with the
[1:29:40] increasing level
[1:29:41] of
[1:29:42] surveillance
[1:29:43] and control that
[1:29:44] is being
[1:29:44] foisted upon
[1:29:45] us
[1:29:46] . Flock
[1:29:46] cameras
[1:29:47] , digital currency
[1:29:48] ,
[1:29:49] electronic monitoring of our
[1:29:49] phones
[1:29:51] , television
[1:29:51] , computers
[1:29:52] ,
[1:29:52] cars
[1:29:53] , buying
[1:29:53] habits. It is
[1:29:54] not
[1:29:55] being
[1:29:55] done innocently
[1:29:57] nor
[1:29:57] benevolently. It is a
[1:29:58] calculated tightening
[1:29:59] . Of
[1:30:00] controls by those
[1:30:01] who wield
[1:30:02] them, it would not be a jump
[1:30:03] in
[1:30:04] logic to say that we
[1:30:06] the people
[1:30:06] are evidently seen more likened
[1:30:07] to
[1:30:08] cattle
[1:30:08] than
[1:30:09] human beings
[1:30:10] by
[1:30:11] those behind these actions, and
[1:30:13] there is
[1:30:13] a tech industry which
[1:30:13] is
[1:30:16] profiting mightily from this
[1:30:17] whole
[1:30:18] misbegotten adventure.
[1:30:18] Glenwood
[1:30:19] tried red light
[1:30:20] cameras downtown and had to
[1:30:22] remove them because people were
[1:30:23] avoiding
[1:30:24] the area
[1:30:25] . Businesses
[1:30:25] suffered
[1:30:26] while the
[1:30:26] traffic laws
[1:30:27] are of course essential
[1:30:28] . We
[1:30:29] humans are not
[1:30:29] . Designed
[1:30:30] to
[1:30:31] adhere to the rigid parameters
[1:30:32] which
[1:30:33] electronic
[1:30:34] surveillance
[1:30:35] devices
[1:30:36] impose as individuals
[1:30:38] and as a society, we
[1:30:39] do not
[1:30:40] need
[1:30:40] that
[1:30:42] additional anxiety. I
[1:30:43] get
[1:30:44] notices
[1:30:44] online asking if I
[1:30:45] support Social
[1:30:46] Security
[1:30:47] ,
[1:30:47] affordable healthcare
[1:30:48] , or
[1:30:49] removing
[1:30:49] toxic additives to
[1:30:50] food
[1:30:51] and
[1:30:51] water
[1:30:52] . Questions which
[1:30:52] anyone
[1:30:54] not cognitively impaired
[1:30:54] should already know
[1:30:55] the
[1:30:56] answer
[1:30:56] to
[1:30:58] that includes our federal
[1:30:58] and state legislature
[1:31:00] . Leaders,
[1:31:01] you might as well
[1:31:01] be asking
[1:31:02] if
[1:31:02] I support life
[1:31:03] and health
[1:31:04] . I
[1:31:05] have looked into
[1:31:05] the reality of
[1:31:07] the toxins in our food
[1:31:08] and
[1:31:10] water. For me it is a matter of
[1:31:12] Life
[1:31:13] . Um
[1:31:14] , many
[1:31:14] people seem to
[1:31:16] have
[1:31:16] no idea how
[1:31:17] the minuscule
[1:31:18] amounts of
[1:31:18] toxic additives in
[1:31:19] our food
[1:31:20] and
[1:31:20] beverages
[1:31:22] ,
[1:31:23] bioaccumulate to become the
[1:31:23] widespread
[1:31:25] sources of
[1:31:25] diminished health and the
[1:31:27] rising prevalence of
[1:31:28] diseases
[1:31:29] including cancers
[1:31:31] . Does that
[1:31:31] mean
[1:31:32] many people are stupid? I
[1:31:34] don't think
[1:31:34] so. I think most
[1:31:35] people
[1:31:36] are
[1:31:36] hardworking, trying
[1:31:37] to raise a family, have
[1:31:38] a
[1:31:38] life
[1:31:39] ,
[1:31:39] and are
[1:31:41] counting on the people
[1:31:41] who they have
[1:31:41] elected
[1:31:43] or fund
[1:31:43] to staff
[1:31:44] the offices
[1:31:45] and
[1:31:46] agencies which they have
[1:31:47] been
[1:31:47] told are for
[1:31:48] public service
[1:31:49] and
[1:31:50] protection, counting on them to
[1:31:50] do
[1:31:52] their
[1:31:52] jobs
[1:31:53] . Maybe a lot of
[1:31:54] people are naive
[1:31:55] . But
[1:31:56] the
[1:31:56] corruption
[1:31:57] , the perversion
[1:31:58] , and
[1:31:59] dereliction of duty
[1:31:59] which is
[1:32:01] so
[1:32:01] widespread in national and
[1:32:02] state government
[1:32:03] is
[1:32:03] not
[1:32:04] something
[1:32:05] inherent
[1:32:05] to
[1:32:06] government. It's all
[1:32:08] about
[1:32:08] people and their level
[1:32:08] of
[1:32:09] diligence
[1:32:10] , honor
[1:32:10] , and integrity
[1:32:12] Thank you, thank you
[1:32:15] . Anybody
[1:32:15] else
[1:32:28] ? Hi
[1:32:28] , I'm Laura
[1:32:28] Stansbury
[1:32:29] Weiss
[1:32:30] , and I'm from
[1:32:30] Mount
[1:32:30] Vernon
[1:32:31] , and
[1:32:32] I
[1:32:33] guess I'm going
[1:32:33] to get up here
[1:32:35] and thank you
[1:32:35] guys for
[1:32:37] , again for putting the
[1:32:37] stay on
[1:32:37] the ai
[1:32:39] . Uh
[1:32:41] , centers
[1:32:42] and
[1:32:42] also to uh
[1:32:44] Basically
[1:32:44] , thank
[1:32:46] you
[1:32:46] guys
[1:32:47] for entertaining
[1:32:48] my little
[1:32:49] informational packets that I
[1:32:49] keep bringing
[1:32:50] to
[1:32:51] you
[1:32:51] . Uh, I
[1:32:51] really
[1:32:54] appreciate your
[1:32:55] attention
[1:32:55] and
[1:32:55] the
[1:32:55] gravity that
[1:32:56] you
[1:32:57] seem to view
[1:32:58] my
[1:32:58] little
[1:32:59] information
[1:33:00] packets
[1:33:01] with
[1:33:02] um I
[1:33:03] really appreciate the fact
[1:33:03] that
[1:33:04] you give
[1:33:04] this time to the
[1:33:05] people
[1:33:07] of Skagit County to talk
[1:33:07] to you and
[1:33:08] tell
[1:33:09] you about their
[1:33:09] concerns
[1:33:11] . Uh, I've lived in
[1:33:13] other places where we have not
[1:33:13] had
[1:33:15] that opportunity
[1:33:15] , and
[1:33:16] it
[1:33:16] really
[1:33:17] was
[1:33:18] terrible because a
[1:33:18] lot of things happened
[1:33:19] and they
[1:33:20] said, well, you didn't say
[1:33:20] anything
[1:33:22] . And well
[1:33:22] , people did
[1:33:24] ,
[1:33:24] but writing letters sometimes
[1:33:25] doesn't work as well
[1:33:26] as having
[1:33:27] a video that other people
[1:33:28] can
[1:33:29] see posted online, and I want
[1:33:31] to thank you for that
[1:33:32] . Thank
[1:33:32] you
[1:33:33] , thank you
[1:33:43] . Morning
[1:33:44] ,
[1:33:44] Rebecca Peck
[1:33:45] from
[1:33:45] Bow at
[1:33:46] the
[1:33:47] last public comment period
[1:33:49] on
[1:33:50] 8/25. 4 men who
[1:33:51] have spent
[1:33:52] decades working on
[1:33:53] large
[1:33:53] scale
[1:33:54] construction projects here in
[1:33:57] Skagit County gave
[1:33:57] public
[1:33:57] comments
[1:33:58] about issues in the
[1:33:59] planning department
[1:34:00] . And
[1:34:01] someone just did this morning
[1:34:03] .
[1:34:03] One of
[1:34:04] the
[1:34:05] contractors named
[1:34:05] a
[1:34:07] few planning department
[1:34:07] employees by
[1:34:09] name in
[1:34:10] direct
[1:34:11] contrast to
[1:34:12] when
[1:34:12] Anthony Romano
[1:34:13] does
[1:34:14] it
[1:34:14] . No point of
[1:34:14] order was
[1:34:16] called by any of
[1:34:16] the
[1:34:17] commissioners. It wasn't
[1:34:18] called
[1:34:18] this
[1:34:19] morning either. I'm glad
[1:34:19] that
[1:34:20] you
[1:34:21] did
[1:34:21] not violate
[1:34:22] his
[1:34:23] rights like you continue to do
[1:34:23] each time
[1:34:25] you
[1:34:25] stop
[1:34:25] Anthony
[1:34:26] Romano from saying any
[1:34:27] county
[1:34:28] employee's
[1:34:29] name after
[1:34:30] the
[1:34:30] meeting adjourned
[1:34:32] , everyone
[1:34:32] left except for the 4
[1:34:34] .
[1:34:35] Construction bosses, while all
[1:34:37] three commissioners sat in
[1:34:38] their seats. So
[1:34:39] did
[1:34:39] I
[1:34:39] , because
[1:34:43] When a quorum
[1:34:43] of commissioners
[1:34:44] meets with any
[1:34:45] citizen to
[1:34:46] discuss county business
[1:34:47] , it is
[1:34:48] officially a
[1:34:48] public meeting
[1:34:49] . A
[1:34:50] 30
[1:34:50] of
[1:34:52] what
[1:34:52] those
[1:34:52] four
[1:34:54] men
[1:34:54] thought the
[1:34:55] commissioner should
[1:34:55] do to
[1:34:57] fix long permitting times
[1:34:59] included specific
[1:35:01] personnel
[1:35:01] changes, and even an offer to
[1:35:02] pay for
[1:35:03] staff overtime. It
[1:35:04] sure
[1:35:04] must be nice
[1:35:05] to have
[1:35:06] a
[1:35:06] private
[1:35:07] public meeting with
[1:35:08] the
[1:35:08] commissioners
[1:35:08] , not
[1:35:10] recorded and
[1:35:10] staff all
[1:35:11] gone. Speaking of
[1:35:11] staff
[1:35:12] . I
[1:35:13] wonder
[1:35:14] what message
[1:35:15] they get when they see this
[1:35:15] type of breach
[1:35:17] of
[1:35:17] protocol does
[1:35:18] it put them in a
[1:35:19] hard
[1:35:19] position
[1:35:20] ethically
[1:35:22] . Regarding
[1:35:22] Anthony
[1:35:23] Romano's outburst
[1:35:24] on
[1:35:24] 8-11-26
[1:35:24] when
[1:35:26] he
[1:35:26] claimed Commissioner
[1:35:27] Browning was smirking
[1:35:28] at
[1:35:28] him
[1:35:28] .
[1:35:28] He
[1:35:30] was
[1:35:30] 100% correct
[1:35:33] .
[1:35:33] Commissioner Browning
[1:35:34] has a
[1:35:35] history of doing just that
[1:35:37] to
[1:35:37] Anthony. In
[1:35:38] fact, last
[1:35:39] year
[1:35:39] I
[1:35:40] spoke
[1:35:41] privately with
[1:35:42] Commissioner Browning about the
[1:35:42] fact that
[1:35:43] he
[1:35:44] glares smirks,
[1:35:45] grins, etc
[1:35:46] . At Anthony
[1:35:46] , while
[1:35:47] Anthony is sitting
[1:35:48] . I did
[1:35:48] so
[1:35:49] because I believe it
[1:35:50] is
[1:35:51] unprofessional and could be a
[1:35:51] safety issue
[1:35:53] . Commissioner
[1:35:54] Browning
[1:35:55] admitted
[1:35:55] to me
[1:35:56] that he
[1:35:57] does this and he said he did so
[1:35:58] in hopes
[1:36:00] that Anthony would
[1:36:00] make himself look like an idiot
[1:36:02] I told
[1:36:04] Commissioner Browning
[1:36:05] that he had better professional
[1:36:06] skills to
[1:36:07] use instead, and
[1:36:07] then
[1:36:07] if
[1:36:09] anything bad was to happen,
[1:36:09] I'd
[1:36:10] be
[1:36:11] testifying that
[1:36:13] Commissioner
[1:36:13] Browning
[1:36:15] antagonizes Anthony
[1:36:17] . Imagine
[1:36:18] having your
[1:36:18] violated
[1:36:20] when you
[1:36:20] mention an
[1:36:20] employee's name and
[1:36:21] then
[1:36:23] having the
[1:36:23] commissioner
[1:36:23] that
[1:36:24] does that smirk
[1:36:25] at you. I
[1:36:27] will call it
[1:36:27] out each and
[1:36:27] every
[1:36:29] time one of you
[1:36:29] or all of you,
[1:36:30] and
[1:36:31] I
[1:36:31] wish Commissioner Burns
[1:36:32] was here
[1:36:33] . Uh
[1:36:33] , when
[1:36:33] you
[1:36:34] violate
[1:36:34] citizens' rights
[1:36:36] , and I should
[1:36:36] not have to be
[1:36:37] the
[1:36:38] one who
[1:36:39] calls that out. You need to
[1:36:40] hold
[1:36:41] each other accountable. If
[1:36:42] you just
[1:36:43] sit
[1:36:43] there while
[1:36:45] another commissioner is
[1:36:45] professionally or legally out
[1:36:46] of bounds
[1:36:47] . Then you
[1:36:47] are
[1:36:49] condoning bad behaviors or a
[1:36:51] rights violation and
[1:36:52] are
[1:36:52] complicit
[1:36:54] . Every
[1:36:55] Skagittonian
[1:36:56] deserves respectful and lawful
[1:36:57] treatment from
[1:36:58] our
[1:36:58] commissioners. S
[1:36:59] peons, as well
[1:36:59] as
[1:37:00] the movers
[1:37:00] and
[1:37:01] shakers
[1:37:02] .
[1:37:03] Thank you. Thank you
[1:37:05] . Next
[1:37:07] .
[1:37:08] Yeah, hi, I'm
[1:37:09] Anthony Romano
[1:37:09] .
[1:37:10] How are you
[1:37:10] ? How are you
[1:37:11] doing
[1:37:11] today
[1:37:12] , commissioners? Hope
[1:37:13] you're doing really good
[1:37:14] .
[1:37:14] Anyway, I've got the bad news
[1:37:14] right
[1:37:16] here. I just gotten my
[1:37:16] mail
[1:37:19] . You're Skagit County
[1:37:19] arbitrator, MISS Ols
[1:37:21] . That
[1:37:21] worked for Saunder's Group
[1:37:23] . Uh,
[1:37:24] is
[1:37:26] Doing some nasty things
[1:37:29] .
[1:37:30] Speaking of nasty things, uh,
[1:37:30] you know
[1:37:32] , like being taken to
[1:37:32] the hospital after
[1:37:34] my bail was
[1:37:35] posted and my friend's sitting
[1:37:35] out
[1:37:36] in
[1:37:36] the hallway waiting to
[1:37:37] pick me up and
[1:37:38] they
[1:37:39] decide to,
[1:37:39] uh, all of a
[1:37:41] sudden give me
[1:37:41] an
[1:37:41] evaluation and
[1:37:43] 4 guys come in
[1:37:44] and grab me and two other
[1:37:45] guys
[1:37:46] stabbed me in the legs with
[1:37:46] some drugs
[1:37:48] . And tie me to a
[1:37:48] gurney bed
[1:37:49] when I
[1:37:50] wake up and
[1:37:51] there's a catheter up my dick
[1:37:52] .
[1:37:52] Ok
[1:37:54] . You
[1:37:54] ain't getting away with
[1:37:55] it. There is
[1:37:56] no way
[1:37:57] in hell. I
[1:37:58] will never ever give up
[1:37:59] . Ever
[1:38:01] I
[1:38:02] want to know who ordered
[1:38:03] that,
[1:38:04] who ordered that
[1:38:06] ? I wanna know
[1:38:06] .
[1:38:06] Uh
[1:38:08] , there's all kinds of
[1:38:09] questions. Who John
[1:38:10] Rose? I
[1:38:10] want to know the 5
[1:38:11] water
[1:38:11] reviews
[1:38:12] right here, he did
[1:38:14] .
[1:38:15] Right here in Bert Hoff's name.
[1:38:15] These are
[1:38:17] all
[1:38:17] the my neighbors
[1:38:17] that are
[1:38:19] attacking me and the
[1:38:20] cops attacking me with
[1:38:21] the
[1:38:21] neighbors
[1:38:22] , the sheriffs right
[1:38:22] here
[1:38:23] , who
[1:38:24] owned it
[1:38:24] ? Bert Hoff
[1:38:26] ,
[1:38:26] me, my, my lot
[1:38:28] . All the people
[1:38:29] that are attacking me
[1:38:31] . With
[1:38:32] the
[1:38:32] sheriffs
[1:38:33] and then
[1:38:33] the Ford's
[1:38:35] son who's the fire
[1:38:35] chief
[1:38:36] commissioner
[1:38:37] that I
[1:38:37] just found
[1:38:37] out
[1:38:38] . Who's
[1:38:39] hand in hand with
[1:38:40] the cops, no wonder why the
[1:38:40] cops
[1:38:41] are
[1:38:42] harassing me and
[1:38:42] following
[1:38:43] me
[1:38:44] and
[1:38:44] uh around and
[1:38:46] stalking me and everything else
[1:38:49] And I've got all the
[1:38:49] paperwork
[1:38:49] to prove
[1:38:51] That my place was a
[1:38:51] homestead
[1:38:53] . And that
[1:38:55] Danny Hagan
[1:38:56] which I got him
[1:38:57] on
[1:38:57] voice
[1:38:58] recording and I told him I was
[1:38:58] recording
[1:38:59] , so
[1:39:00] it's legal. I
[1:39:00] asked him what he did
[1:39:02] with
[1:39:02] my
[1:39:03] homestead and heritage rights
[1:39:04] .
[1:39:05] Papers that I gave him. He said
[1:39:07] he recycled them
[1:39:07] . Which
[1:39:08] is
[1:39:08] illegal
[1:39:11] . 2
[1:39:13] I can prove and show
[1:39:14] beyond a reasonable doubt
[1:39:15] that
[1:39:16] the auditors have been
[1:39:16] switching
[1:39:17] numbers up because
[1:39:18] there was a
[1:39:18] legal document done
[1:39:20] at Chicago Title
[1:39:24] . 763-596 is
[1:39:25] the faulty number that they put
[1:39:26] on
[1:39:27] there. The number should
[1:39:27] have
[1:39:30] been 7763556, which is the
[1:39:31] development rights
[1:39:32] . Which
[1:39:33] the
[1:39:34] heritage rights have, which is
[1:39:34] the
[1:39:36] homestead rights and the
[1:39:36] whole damn area because f.
[1:39:37] Schuler
[1:39:38] , snl
[1:39:38] logging owned the
[1:39:39] whole fricking area
[1:39:44] . So
[1:39:46] , I
[1:39:47] intend today to go up and get
[1:39:50] my water. These orders I am not
[1:39:51] because it's not in the
[1:39:52] county's jurisdiction anymore
[1:39:54] because there's several states
[1:39:54] involved
[1:39:57] . Several
[1:39:58] uh uh
[1:39:59] department of ecology and none
[1:39:59] of
[1:40:00] these orders
[1:40:01] are
[1:40:01] relevant
[1:40:01] like
[1:40:03] I've been saying, any of
[1:40:04] these, the judges are dirty
[1:40:05] . I
[1:40:06] can prove that
[1:40:07] corrupt the blue
[1:40:08] sticky note to the recorder to
[1:40:08] the
[1:40:09] recorder to the judge, and
[1:40:10] then all three of them look at
[1:40:10] me and
[1:40:12] I lose the case
[1:40:12] against
[1:40:12] MR. Code enforcement
[1:40:14] , Tom
[1:40:14] Wentzel, who's been in hot
[1:40:15] water already
[1:40:16] , and
[1:40:17] and and and
[1:40:17] Perkins
[1:40:18] has been in hot water
[1:40:19] and all of them
[1:40:21] , and you
[1:40:21] and
[1:40:21] you
[1:40:23] . So, good luck
[1:40:24] . And cease
[1:40:25] and desist
[1:40:27] . Thank
[1:40:28] you. Right
[1:40:28] here, you want me to open
[1:40:29] this
[1:40:30] letter for you, see what, see
[1:40:31] what kind of bad news it is
[1:40:33] .
[1:40:33] Anybody else want
[1:40:34] to
[1:40:34] comment
[1:40:35] today from your arbitrator
[1:40:37] . Is
[1:40:39] there anybody online
[1:40:41] ? And
[1:40:43] to be
[1:40:43] online like to comment
[1:40:45] . 8 years
[1:40:48] Anybody online
[1:40:52] ? No
[1:40:53] . Ok
[1:40:54] ,
[1:40:54] Commissioner Browning, do you
[1:40:55] have anything this week
[1:40:56] ? No
[1:40:57] , I
[1:40:57] took last week off
[1:41:01] . Ok, thank
[1:41:01] you
[1:41:02] . Um
[1:41:03] , this last Friday I was
[1:41:04] down in Olympia with
[1:41:05] the
[1:41:06] riparian task Force, which is a
[1:41:07] governor's
[1:41:08] appointed task force
[1:41:10] about 45
[1:41:10] 50 different people.
[1:41:11] One of
[1:41:12] the
[1:41:13] things the ag groups
[1:41:13] and
[1:41:15] the tribes have agreed
[1:41:17] to
[1:41:17] work together to figure out how
[1:41:18] we
[1:41:19] can retain the
[1:41:20] riparian
[1:41:20] areas that
[1:41:21] are
[1:41:22] out
[1:41:24] there and
[1:41:24] not lose anymore, so that was
[1:41:25] uh
[1:41:26] . It's
[1:41:27] taken quite a while to
[1:41:27] get there
[1:41:29] . Um, so that was a
[1:41:29] good
[1:41:30] news
[1:41:31] , um, we had a meeting
[1:41:32] with our
[1:41:33] elected officials last
[1:41:33] week
[1:41:35] talking about the budget
[1:41:36] process and where we're going
[1:41:36] to start here
[1:41:37] in
[1:41:37] the next
[1:41:38] couple of weeks
[1:41:40] . Um
[1:41:42] , had a
[1:41:42] water transfer meeting
[1:41:44] the
[1:41:45] pud
[1:41:47] has more water rights than
[1:41:47] they're
[1:41:48] currently
[1:41:49] using and
[1:41:50] the
[1:41:51] last 3 years they've had
[1:41:51] a
[1:41:53] temporary program because
[1:41:54] they're allowed to
[1:41:55] take water
[1:41:56] out of the for
[1:41:56] the
[1:41:57] Judy
[1:41:58] Reservoir, which is up at
[1:41:58] the
[1:41:58] pipeline
[1:42:00] , uh, just a little bit
[1:42:01] east of Cedar Wooly
[1:42:03] . And they
[1:42:05] are allowed because that's
[1:42:05] their water right
[1:42:06] , is that
[1:42:07] point of
[1:42:07] withdrawal
[1:42:09] , um,
[1:42:09] they've been allowing
[1:42:09] the
[1:42:11] transfer to a couple
[1:42:11] of
[1:42:12] different
[1:42:13] uh egg producers and
[1:42:14] the drainage
[1:42:15] and
[1:42:16] irrigation
[1:42:16] districts on Fur
[1:42:17] Island
[1:42:18] and
[1:42:18] on
[1:42:20] um Laconnor area
[1:42:21] , um, but
[1:42:22] to
[1:42:22] have, um
[1:42:24] , Electronic
[1:42:25] . Cell
[1:42:27] phone data collecting on the
[1:42:28] pumps that are pumping
[1:42:29] out of
[1:42:30] the river, so the water, pud
[1:42:32] isn't using is going down
[1:42:32] the
[1:42:33] river and
[1:42:34] the agriculture is
[1:42:34] able
[1:42:36] to use it down there and
[1:42:36] they were explaining what
[1:42:37] they're doing
[1:42:38] and how they're
[1:42:39] looking at that system
[1:42:40] , um, and
[1:42:41] how, uh, what
[1:42:42] the future is for
[1:42:43] that agriculture like a more
[1:42:45] longer term. Currently it's
[1:42:46] just been a
[1:42:47] one year by
[1:42:47] year
[1:42:48] lease agreement
[1:42:49] in
[1:42:49] agriculture
[1:42:50] in Saskatchew County would like
[1:42:50] to have a longer term
[1:42:52] . Lease on
[1:42:52] that
[1:42:53] . And then
[1:42:54] , uh, last week
[1:42:54] also, the
[1:42:56] Skagit River System
[1:42:56] Cooperative
[1:42:58] had
[1:42:58] a
[1:42:58] public
[1:42:59] meeting
[1:43:00] about flooding
[1:43:01] , flood
[1:43:01] inundation maps
[1:43:02] , the
[1:43:03] Mount
[1:43:04] Vernon Commons talking about
[1:43:04] they
[1:43:05] had a bunch of different
[1:43:06] maps there would
[1:43:07] would
[1:43:07] have
[1:43:08] 10-year flood event or
[1:43:09] 25 or 50
[1:43:10] year or 80 year
[1:43:10] flood event
[1:43:11] was
[1:43:12] very interesting. A lot of
[1:43:12] information
[1:43:14] there
[1:43:14] , um, with the
[1:43:15] Army Corps has
[1:43:16] been
[1:43:16] mapping
[1:43:17] the
[1:43:17] data information and
[1:43:18] now
[1:43:19] let
[1:43:19] the said Sky
[1:43:20] River System
[1:43:21] Cooperatives made that
[1:43:21] .
[1:43:22] Information
[1:43:23] available, the
[1:43:24] county is not going to be able
[1:43:24] to go
[1:43:25] back and look at that
[1:43:25] data
[1:43:26] and
[1:43:27] understand what went
[1:43:28] into the model when they came
[1:43:28] up with
[1:43:30] those different data
[1:43:30] points, but it was
[1:43:32] a very
[1:43:32] important that people
[1:43:33] understand that we live in a
[1:43:34] delta area
[1:43:35] here and the river
[1:43:35] comes
[1:43:37] through and we
[1:43:37] potentially have floods
[1:43:39] . And
[1:43:39] this helps people
[1:43:41] understand
[1:43:41] those issues coming forward
[1:43:44] .
[1:43:44] That's about all
[1:43:45] I have. Like I
[1:43:46] said before, MR. Burns is gone
[1:43:47] .
[1:43:48] So with that, if
[1:43:49] nothing else
[1:43:50] ,
[1:43:50] we're adjourned. Thank you very
[1:43:51] much
[1:44:02] t
[1:44:04] federal law, and so we were