Say Andy, to your point, it's harder and
harder to see things organically.
>> There is.
>> I work in the space of like buying ads.
It's very crazy.
I'm relieved I don't buy political ads
anymore for me or for campaigns or that
is even crazier. It's a whole other
system and process. Yeah.
>> How was How was Regine?
Doing good?
And Puck?
>> How are we going to have Puck doing
much?
>> He's not such a Puck anymore.
» Good evening. We'll bring this meeting
of the Skowhegan Planning Board to
order.
First item of business that we have is
to organize.
At the present, we have two of our
members who
need to be sworn in and Gail isn't here
to swear them in. So, they
can't nominate and they can't vote.
And the question I have is from the
board, do we want to
Does anybody want to make a motion to
put this off to the next meeting where
they are permitted to do that?
>> I would move that we wait until we have
a full board to select them.
>> Do we have a second?
>> I'll second.
>> Is there any discussion about that?
Seeing none, we'll vote. All those in
favor, please raise your hand.
Your
>> You're mine. Okay.
>> So, it's unanimous.
>> that need to be sworn in?
>> [laughter]
>> Okay, we'll put that off to the next
meeting.
>> Brandy, Andy.
>> We do have a quorum.
And Aaron, you're taking Michelle's
place.
>> Okay.
» And I'll entertain a motion to approve
the minutes from the last meeting.
It's been a while since we've had a
meeting, so.
>> A couple of months.
I move that we
accept them.
>> Okay, you got a motion
to approve the minutes. Do we have a
second?
>> I second.
>> Okay, got a second. Is there any
additions or corrections?
Seeing none, we'll vote. All those in
favor, please raise your hand.
Those opposed?
Motion carries.
Okay.
Next item of business
under site plan subdivision.
Pre-application review for proposed
eight-lot subdivision application
submitted by Durago Engineering for
Jeremy
How do you pronounce your name? Reardon?
>> It's pronounced Reardon.
>> Reardon? Okay, Reardon to be located on
Fourth Street.
Okay, uh who's going to be speaking?
>> Uh I'll get up and speak to start, but
I'll defer any technical questions to
Randy. Everyone, I'm Jeremy. I've come
to you uh apply for a subdivision. Um I
purchased Fourth Street from a gentleman
named Larry Smith out of Cornville about
5 years ago.
There's two newer homes on the property.
Two of them need to be replaced. And I'd
also like to
upgrade in the back. There's quite a bit
of room, I think, to do it.
Um
but what I'd really like to also do is
if the subdivision's approved,
I'd like to also upgrade um this home
and this home.
So, I'm looking to buy possibly six new
mobile homes to put on the property.
Um
I've contracted uh Skowhegan Sand and
Gravel for the groundwork.
They've offered to do that, um take on
the contract. I have um applied for some
financing through Skowhegan Savings.
They've approved me on that, so
we're hoping to get through this process
and
questions.
» Are there any questions?
Why
yes, Jeff.
Did you want to add before?
>> No, no.
>> Okay.
Um well, first off I I'd say thank you
for
both the improvement and the expansion.
We do need housing. This is within town,
so appreciate that. Um as far as the new
homes, are those um
Are Are you thinking new or new used?
>> I'm going to purchase I intend to
purchase new homes. Um they're going to
be probably 15 by 60.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah.
>> And then my
other question was on lot or
lot 7 and 8.
>> Yes.
>> like the number eight may be used in the
future for a house lot, and I just was
curious about any thoughts to any
buffering um between there and the
community center.
>> So I would intend to leave as much um
space between a buffer a tree buffer
between the property and the community
center as possible.
Um
so I wouldn't be looking to take the
woods back all the way up to it. And as
far as that lot number eight goes, I
mean
it would probably be either like a
single wide mobile home with a small
garage or possibly a just a small double
wide or something. So you know, I
wouldn't be looking to put like a big
colonial back there or nothing. Yeah.
>> Appreciate that.
>> Or possibly may just be um
another single wide 15 by 60. So
>> Okay.
Yeah. Thank you.
>> Yeah.
Well, I think I'll let Randy speak. He
can give the details better than I can.
>> Yeah, one of the things one of the
things Sorry, I'll introduce myself.
Randy Butler, I'm with Dirigo
Engineering. Um one of the things you
might notice on the plan is we're trying
to keep the lots relatively large.
Typically, when you think in mobile home
park, you think in tight lots and so
forth. The Sky Higgens minimum size is
6,500 sq. ft. The minimum that we've got
there is 12
almost double that. Lot number three is
at 12,600.
I guess we do have sorry, lot number
five. That's that's the the the smallest
of and that's kind of because we're
trying to retain some space for storm
water detention if we need it. And I as
I'm looking at that, there is a typo on
that. It should be about 6655
sq. ft. Um
you can see the rest of them average 13
to 20,000 give or take. So, they're
decent size lots compared to a typical
mobile home. His intent is just to keep
it uh more open, more
neighborhood setting as opposed to a
crammed in park.
One of the
issues there right now it's just a
gravel road,
um relatively narrow. I think 10 to 12
ft wide and I'm quite sure the fire
chief is going to require a 20-ft width.
Uh that's pretty common on a on a home
as this. So, that's what I've drawn in
there.
Um
typical mobile home park requires 20
state law says 23-ft minimum
right-of-way width. I've gone with 24
just for simple simplicity there.
>> [snorts]
>> Uh and then we show the setbacks there
off the lines as well.
Both water and sewer will be public.
And I've got to do some research on
storm drainage. Everything drains toward
West Front Street. As you might have
noticed, there's a typo on that. I
labeled it as West Main. It should be
West Front Street. Um
it drains toward West Front Street, but
I've got to do a little bit of research
with the
road commissioner to
figure out what happens with drainage
down there at the street.
>> So, you're not looking ever to make this
past the town to take this road.
>> Typical mobile home park that it doesn't
happen. No.
because of the right-of-way. That's
one of the trade-offs that you make by
doing a mobile home park is your right
away is narrower. That's in order to
make the place affordable and by virtue
of that, most town ordinances are going
to require a minimum 50-ft right away.
» So, right now there are two
existing, correct?
>> Um
>> Four.
homes, right?
>> are existing.
>> Yeah. So, it's lot one. Well, actually
it's lots one, two, three, and four are
the existing ones. That's why we labeled
them that way.
So, lot five would be the first new one.
>> So, the ones that actually show
something there.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I've kind of got a little
bit of a cross-hatching around the kind
of a black outline on each of those
existing homes.
>> And do those have cement pads
>> I don't know the answer to that.
>> There's a mixture.
Uh I believe two of the four have cement
pads.
» And has it been long-term?
Have they been there a long time?
>> So, everybody that's been living there
has lived there since before I acquired
the property.
Um the longest
person I believe is over 20 years.
People have stayed.
>> And they're all rentals, then?
>> They are all rentals, yes.
>> In- including the homes, right? You As
far as I understand, you you own the
homes as well. So, this is a little
unique scenario. A lot of mobile home
parks, the tenant owns the home, rents
the lot. In this scenario, he owns the
home and the lot, which gives him
flexibility if somebody should move out
to replace that and bring in some bring
in something newer.
» Couple of questions. Go ahead.
>> Um thanks for going over the drainage. I
was looking at the topography and
>> Yep.
>> you know, they invested in you, so I was
going to ask questions about the
drainage, but you answered that
question.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah, sheet two, if
you're not familiar with it, sheet two
does show the contours, and as you can
see from that, it is all draining toward
the road. And that's why we've got that
area reserved for storm water detention.
Just kind of outline, we haven't done
design work on it yet, and kind of
looking a little bit for your feedback
as to what your expectations might be on
that.
>> [clears throat]
>> And then, you know, I was curious. Uh it
sounds like you are going to talk to,
you know,
find out, and I'll ask
our code enforcement person the same
question. But, in regards to the width
of the road, you're prepared to
build that road wider than it exists
now.
>> Correct.
>> And then, question I had
um
was on the depth of this T-turn or this
>> Right.
>> turn at the end, if it is deep enough.
>> Yeah, it I should show throw some
dimensions on there. Typically, I do
those a minimum of 40 ft. It might even
be 50 ft there. But, we can confirm that
with the town to make sure that meets
your requirements.
>> Great. And then, I was just curious on
lot six, there appears to be two
structures, and I didn't know if those
were just storage buildings right now.
>> Yeah, there's one storage Well, at least
on the at the date of this aerial plan,
I don't know if that's still on there or
not.
>> Um yes, there's on lot six, I have it
Lot six. Yeah, those both of those
buildings will get all the way
>> Okay. Yep.
>> storage shed.
>> Sure.
>> Yeah.
So,
one of the first questions was about the
buffer ring between
these back two lots and community center
property. What is there now?
>> It's just it's wooded. Yeah.
>> Wooded?
>> Yep, it's Yep, there's woods there. I
think a little bit It's hard to tell
from the aerial imagery. I think a
little bit of the woods goes is on the
community center property, maybe 10 ft
or so of the woods. You can kind of see
a little bit of a an outline that I've
done on the aerial plan, my guess
estimate where the woods line is based
on that the aerial imagery, and I think
I had another later aerial imagery that
the tree showed up a little bit better.
So, I believe that that's So, the idea
is to, you know, retain I don't think
your ordinance has a stated buffer
width. So, you know, something like a 20
25-ft buffer I think is what you
>> I would say maximum buffer possible
would remain.
If I had to guess, there's probably
about 50 ft of woods.
Um I'd probably look at maybe just take
20 ft back.
And then you have your remaining 30.
>> Uh my my main question is, you know,
what kind of
how does the uh community center deal
with access to the property?
» Uh
>> [snorts]
>> I guess I'm not clear on your question.
>> Well, the
>> As far as trying to keep keep folks from
the We want to be creating a place where
people just come right through into the
property at the end of this.
Well, I I certainly don't think it wants
to be a a shortcut for people that are
walking to and from. Is that what you
>> Things like that happen.
>> Yeah.
>> That's the reason I'm bringing this up.
It's like
>> Mhm.
>> [clears throat]
>> I'll say that and that already happens.
Kids cut through
>> there.
>> Um because there's like a a trail.
>> There is.
>> And then I almost kind of wonder if
there were two homes there, that might
stop that actually.
Um
and it's not really a big deal. I
personally don't mind if kids walk
through there, but
um some of the neighbors I don't
[clears throat] think really like it cuz
they're just whatever.
>> Yeah.
>> Um
>> Does anybody know what the uh community
center's policy or what has been done in
the past there?
Any idea?
>> I Well, it's closed at a certain time,
like any park in town. So, there is
probably like a sunset piece for
those facilities. It's interesting cuz
the two structure or the the courts that
are there and the skate park are both
fenced, but there is no fencing to
separate property. I just know
everywhere else around the community
center it's just like
everyone sort of heads through
any any, you know, any way they can. Um
and I know we have another subdivision
property that's sort of prevented that
by
changing the elevation and fencing.
>> Okay.
>> But it still exists in most other spots
where
>> Right. Is it a concern for you folks as
far as
mandating anything if
>> I don't I don't know that I have a big concern unless there's something
in place
already, you know, where it's a has been
a problem for the town and this you
know, this would be the time to deal
with that if it is.
>> It could get a pet
>> But if it's if it's working and
everybody don't mind
>> I was going to suggest
>> I wouldn't have any
>> Yeah. I'm going to suggest a pet bison
might help deter.
>> Yeah.
>> Seems to be the trend these days. Yeah,
you know, and it's interesting like I
feel like the buffering question and
some of those it's I almost feel like we
ask it more and more because when these
projects come up people you know, how
can we not ask them about a buffer? And
you know, not anything necessarily
mandating but we just
>> Right. Yeah.
>> It creates the dialogue that's helpful.
>> Right. In this case, I understand you
want to buffer against other residences.
I guess I'm not sure if there's quite as
much push to have a buffer
to to protect the community center. If
anything it'd be more protecting the
tenants in the park.
>> too is the neighbors wouldn't be yeah.
>> [snorts]
» Anybody else have any questions?
>> And I'll be honest, mainly the reason I
asked about the homes was I
kind of had heard that they were new. So
I was just saying that again so it would
repeat it. So you go home and read the
Scott Hagan page.
>> Mhm.
>> People know exactly what's happening.
>> Got you.
>> You know, there's not some big mystery
in what we're
>> Right. Good. Thank you.
>> to hear for your sake, yeah.
» My only question is regarding the
connection to the public water system. I
see a letter of service from the sewer.
Have you reached out talked Made them
aware? work.
>> have but I haven't heard back from them.
I reached out to him and verbally
they've got no problem with it. What
he's telling me is that they want to see
a I think right now I've got to double
check my notes, but I think he said
there are just two smaller services
serving the park right now, which would
make sense if there's only four homes.
You can do those with pretty small
lines.
Uh he'd like to see something for a
larger line coming in.
Um probably from the street. Uh so
whatever it might be of
3 4-in line, something of that size
would probably suffice. We've got
there's a mobile home park in
Waterville, not one that we designed,
but from the 1970s [snorts]
has a 100-plus units on a 1 and 1/2-in
line.
So it kind of gives you a sense of the
scale of, you know, probably a 2 3-in
line can serve these eight properties
without too much concern.
>> And would you have to run that line
all the way up and then
>> We've got a
Yeah, we've got to We've got to Again,
we'll consult with the with the water
department to see where exactly can we
connect. There I'm not even sure which
side the main is on. I suspect it's on
the opposite side of the road because
that's where the hydrant is at the
entrance. There's a mobile There's a
Um I don't remember the name of it.
There's a motel right there across the
road.
Kays, okay. Yeah, right, that's it. Um
you can see kind of on the the upper
left corner of our plan, you'll see that
little symbol that represents
a hydrant.
Um
So that's So which which
Uh he said it was just about adequate.
Uh I think he said
I think he told me mid-40s and looking
at the elevation differences, we figured
it would it would be adequate. Uh the
question I raised with him was, "Okay,
what about the community center?"
Uh and apparently that's got
marginal adequate, not great pressure,
but enough to service. And that's
roughly the same elevation as what the
upper homes would be at.
So not extreme pressure, but
meets the meets the code.
» Yeah, most uh
private run at 230 and
uh 50 anyway.
>> Right. Yeah.
>> 30 psi at the last place.
>> Right.
>> It's not great, but it's
>> Right.
>> It will work.
>> Correct.
Any other questions?
Aaron, do you have anything?
>> I don't, no.
>> Everything looks good to you?
>> I think so, yeah. We just wait on the
final plans from uh Randy. We give him
the letters to serve as they come in.
So, as long as we have copies of that.
» Very good, Will.
Thank you for uh presenting this to us.
It everything looks in order.
We expect to see you at our next meeting
or
>> Um possibly, yeah. See if we can get
things lined up at your
>> meet once a month, correct? And you want
materials a couple weeks in advance.
>> business we have to take care of, we'll
have a meeting.
>> Okay, very well. Thank you very much.
Appreciate it.
>> Yeah, thank you.
>> Thank you.
» Okay, no items by public.
No communications.
Unfinished business, nothing. New
business, nothing.
No selectman here with us today, but we
do have a new selectman
since our last meeting.
And uh I asked who the new chairman was.
And it's Mr. Nolan. Is that correct?
>> No.
sir.
>> Huh?
>> No, he just voted.
>> Nelson.
Yeah.
>> Oh.
>> Nelson.
So, what?
>> He's down at the park. I just saw him.
And that's our new selectman down there,
>> Who's the new selectman?
>> Uh Matt DuBois.
>> Oh.
>> He's the bank guy.
>> All right.
» And uh
do you have anything for us?
» I don't. No. Um
just
we got to get you guys form back in. We
need to stop in. We sent the email.
We need to get you guys to stop back in
and take care of the mail.
Reminds us.
Um
we are going to buy
we've sent out some emails to you guys
to get forwarded over for the training
that's mandatory now by the end of the
year.
It started so it's 6 months from July
1st
for the field board, planning board.
Seven hours that need to be done
um in order to be on the board now as
they told me.
Um so we're going to try and get I know
it's kind of hard sometimes they're at
night or they're up and they do them up
at night Bangor or we've been to them
over at uh
what is it? Cross Insurance Center up
there.
Uh
maybe they can do them the one
Brewer but we found uh we can buy uh
buy the training video online and it's
good for
X amount of days.
So
that's what we're going to try and do.
Yeah, 30 days I think it is or 60 days
or whenever we buy it and just set up a
time and
>> Will we do it
together or just individually? How
>> Yeah, yeah, we can do it individually. I
think it's like 2 and 1/2 hours so
individually during the week if you guys
want to
>> What is this for?
>> try and you know pop in and we can set
something up downstairs in the in the
small
>> Is that the question?
>> Is there a frequency as in the training
has to be repeated?
>> I don't know. Uh I'll double check.
>> I had it about 3 years ago.
>> Yeah, I'm pretty sure that it I'm pretty
positive it was. I can't remember off
the top of head.
Pretty sure it was. I think every I
think everybody pretty much needs it.
There's just
>> Except to do it once.
>> like one or two.
>> I think Antoinette
recently took it.
>> Yes.
>> How often do you have to do it?
>> That's what we were discussing now. I I
don't remember. I I can't remember off
the top of my head. I'd be guessing
again.
>> Sounds like this is just need to have
done it once.
>> No, I think there is a frequency to it.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah.
I think everybody except for one or two
of you need it.
So, I'm just saying.
>> We can do an evening showing.
Come in, eat some waffles.
Aaron's like, I'll leave you the keys so
you can come in.
» You know, we can talk about it.
May- well, what did your parents say?
Maybe. Maybe. We'll see.
>> We've We've banked, uh,
you know, what? One or two months
already.
>> I know. I know. I was like, wow, how
many meetings have I missed? And I was
like, oh, wait a minute, it's just the
one I couldn't be in. And And yeah.
>> We have some valuable and disgusting
items as a group. That's good.
>> Yeah.
We can invite the select board to our
next meeting.
>> Okay.
Aaron, do you have anything?
>> Nope.
>> Antoinette?
>> Anything?
>> I'm all set.
>> Yeah. I'm good. I was going to ask about
the training cuz I thought I missed it.
So, but
» Like even Derek
>> I was uh
have a
downtown machine where they put them in
the back.
The platform of the building, platform
and the walkway with
I thought they were going to stop the
work
in April. I thought they mentioned they
were hoping to get started in April. And
I don't see where they
have any plans or anything on the
bike path.
>> He would know.
Do you
Anybody know have any more information
about it?
>> I don't know what their official plan
is. For the other side you're talking
about, the whitewater park?
>> Yeah.
>> I'm not entirely positive what's going
on over there. I I'm pretty sure they
they've awarded of
but I don't know if they're
>> They had a groundbreaking
for the
>> for the whitewater for the boardwalk.
>> the boardwalk
>> Boardwalk has started.
>> Is that what you're talking about, the
boardwalk?
>> No, I'm talking about the
>> So
That That's on hold, the board. Yeah.
>> There's some grant money, something,
allocation issues. I'm not
Could be speaking out of turn, but
>> Yeah, that one isn't started cuz it's
not funded fully or something.
>> Yeah.
>> There was some federal funding that's
not available anymore.
So
that started cuz there's funding for
that, and now there's federal funding
coming for phase two of the boardwalk.
Um and some of that has to do with the
fact that they are using um
prior to today, it's um
a specific timber, like an engineered
wood.
That there's an incentive to use, so
the boardwalk, both phase one and two,
are going to be
a very specific timber. Uh
probably some sort of uh material that
comes from the northeast.
So they were actually able to get money
from the Northern Border Regional
Commission.
>> I think some of the stuff that they
developed at the University of Maine
>> It's a little different, you know, I I
was in a meeting today and people are
talking about one of the problems with
the a lot of this engineered wood is
that uh
in mass timber is the, you know,
manufactured timber. Um
you know, it comes from out west or it
comes from down south, and a lot of it,
even though they're doing a lot of the
research at UMaine, some of the sources
are limited uh in the northeast.
Um so I'm kind of curious cuz there was
just a big
announcement of $20 million to the state
of Maine, I think to UMaine, to do more
you know, and I think, you know, one of
the issues is these um
these byproducts, and, you know, whether
it's plywood or whether it's this
engineered material, you know, a lot of
it is being
studied, developed at UMaine, but
there's not a practical uh manufacturing
of it in most cases yet.
You know, so
>> I'd like to see them start from making
stuff out of him.
>> Or bamboo.
>> Yeah, I don't know bamboo. I saw
something where one company is producing
sheet goods to replace OSB
or plywood basically using that product.
They
you know, instead of spending
millions and millions over 5 years to
build a big plant, they've got a system
much less cost
and get it going real quick and produce
the same thing.
But we got a lot of wood up here where
we're at.
>> Yeah, you know, there's not a market for
white pine. There's not a you know,
there's all this this byproduct
associated with all sorts of wood. It's
time to use it. If you look at the
prices of white pine and some other
wood is sort of just flatlined for
quite a trajectory the cost.
Good to have something.
I do know tomorrow morning and I can
look on my phone, there's like a a
coffee and construction update about
this project here.
So I'm pretty sure it's it's downtown,
but I can look. I just saw some
notification about it. And again, you
get to actually ask the contractors
questions about what they're doing. I
think a lot of the work was um
you know, some demos, some removal and
then there were some test pits dug.
I haven't been down there in a little
bit, but it looked like they had started
and pulled some stuff out. Definitely
were digging some holes and then I saw
uh the water company down there, which I
didn't know if that was associated with
the project, but you remember what was
there before.
So I think it's a lot of old foundations
that they just filled in and so it'll be
interesting to see what they find when
they get digging. So
>> Yeah, the old river bank
before the dam went in, it was buildings
on both sides. I don't know. Yeah, old
picture.
>> [clears throat]
» For the wheels and the whole thing.
>> Police something.
Treasures in there.
>> Is that everything, Randy?
>> Yeah.
>> Andy,
>> [laughter]
>> what's that?
>> I'm all set except for I saw something
Clinton did sort of as a an emergency
measure. They had
the ag
Was it the ag department that that shut
down a guy's farm stand?
>> Yeah.
>> And because he was selling
fresh
milk of some sort.
I
So
>> From what I saw I actually I do know I
>> know more about it than me.
>> I I've never I've not talked to anybody
at Department of Ag. I just saw it on
social media and I watched a couple of
the videos that the person did. They
were making some value-added farm
products. I can't necessarily speak to
the dairy. It sounded like maybe it was
more baked goods and some other things
and maybe some other things in a farm
stand. Um
but I think what happened and and the
person said they were promoting it via
social media and it was getting popular
and so the state realized that these
were unregulated, unlicensed products.
So they came in and shut them down
because of the food sovereignty laws of
the state, if a municipality passes an
ordinance that allows for
um
certain products or certain um
I don't want I almost said loopholes and
that's not the correct term, but it's if the municipality passes an ordinance
that allows this,
um
then that type of thing is is, you know,
the state will leave it alone and allow
it. Um
it'll be interesting. I think we could
find out information
from the town of Clinton because they
are sort of sorting through it. I did
watch another interview with the husband
and wife where they were meeting, I
believe, with the town's attorney and
the town manager and I believe
I think the town manager in Clinton
lives here in Skowhegan. I think it's
Dan who lives up on North Avenue. Yeah,
Dan Swain. And so they were working
through what the ordinance would be.
Um and then I I kind of lost track of
it, but if that town was to accept that
ordinance, and it was interesting to
hear the folks explain it because they
came up with draft language, and then
they were told by the town that their
language was like too long and it didn't
need to be that long. Um I know many
other municipalities, a lot of smaller
municipalities around the state have
passed
uh food sovereignty ordinances. Um
so
that's that's what I know.
>> I think it's something that would be
good for us to do.
>> Do we we don't have uh food sovereignty
here or do we need it?
>> We have a We have a a state
>> Yeah.
>> thing, but
the idea is
if somebody decides to
grow something on their land or raise
some animals and
sell some milk or
>> For personal use I think it's okay.
>> But
you know, it's uh
the whole
I'm all for the freedom of people to be
industrious
with the land that they have.
>> Mhm.
>> A lot of people want to sell
>> Huh?
>> A lot of people want to sell it
local grown
>> And you know, and people know what
they're getting. You know, they're not
>> Might be safer than lettuce.
>> It might be safer than a lot of things
you're going to get in a Walmart or or
you know
>> ground beef recall
at Walmart.
>> So it it's interesting. I don't
necessarily know the full scope of
products they have there, but it also
does seem like especially in Central
Maine
there is very much this trend of uh
baked goods
and uh the baked goods seem to be sold
you know via relationships through
social media. And they sort of have this
local following which is very
interesting. I I you know along the
lines with the chairman saying I've
always been sort of a supporter of the
cottage industries and so I think we
could take what Clinton is doing
probably not have to reinvent the wheel
let them do the work.
They're clear I we could find out very
quickly who their town attorney is or if
they're working with the municipality or
if it's
with Cog.
But yeah, I think it would be worth
having a conversation. I I imagine once
we start to have the conversation there
will be people in town that will engage.
You know probably on both sides and then
there'll be some people I think that we
could tap into.
>> I think we have a significant farmers
market over here that is pretty much
doing that already.
That
>> Yeah.
>> It's my understanding though that you
know if you're going to sell baked goods
you know any like the farmers at the
market they have to have some sort of
commercial kitchen license right?
Um
>> Yeah, we sold granola.
>> Yep.
>> We had to have a state
>> Yep.
>> It's not
We had to have
a couple sinks.
Which we already had in place.
>> Yeah.
>> It's interesting how the towns people in
Clinton rallied
to get things squared away
for the town meeting.
That was That was I said they are
» Anyway, that's something we could
we can uh
see what the mindset of uh
the select board is concerning that.
I'm all for things of that nature.
Yeah, and there's some people we could
reach out to both that are fully
licensed, have a lot of experience, and
then there are people that live in town
that are very engaged in the food
sovereignty sort of movement, and would
have a lot of expertise, and and we
could tap into those folks as well.
>> I think Amber would be a good choice.
I mean grains.
» Hey.
Is that good?
Very good.
>> [laughter]
>> Okay, I'll entertain a motion to
adjourn.
>> So moved.
>> Do we have a second?
>> I'll run with that.
>> You're not allowed.
>> Oh, that's right.
» [laughter]
» So we got a second. All those in favor,
please raise your hand.
>> [laughter]
>> We're adjourned.
I was like, how much Aaron likes to
remind everyone they have to do those
types of things like swearing and see,
you know.
I would say the um