1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,760 Say Andy, to your point, it's harder and 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,440 harder to see things organically. 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,800 >> There is. 4 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,680 >> I work in the space of like buying ads. 5 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,160 It's very crazy. 6 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,040 I'm relieved I don't buy political ads 7 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:15,760 anymore for me or for campaigns or that 8 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,440 is even crazier. It's a whole other 9 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,320 system and process. Yeah. 10 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,120 >> How was How was Regine? 11 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:25,720 Doing good? 12 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,040 And Puck? 13 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:28,560 >> How are we going to have Puck doing 14 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:29,000 much? 15 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:35,790 >> He's not such a Puck anymore. 16 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,360 » Good evening. We'll bring this meeting 17 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,480 of the Skowhegan Planning Board to 18 00:00:39,480 --> 00:00:41,560 order. 19 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,520 First item of business that we have is 20 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,280 to organize. 21 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,720 At the present, we have two of our 22 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,920 members who 23 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,720 need to be sworn in and Gail isn't here 24 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,080 to swear them in. So, they 25 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,000 can't nominate and they can't vote. 26 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,000 And the question I have is from the 27 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,880 board, do we want to 28 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,120 Does anybody want to make a motion to 29 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,800 put this off to the next meeting where 30 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,120 they are permitted to do that? 31 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,480 >> I would move that we wait until we have 32 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,160 a full board to select them. 33 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:17,160 >> Do we have a second? 34 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:17,880 >> I'll second. 35 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,760 >> Is there any discussion about that? 36 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,040 Seeing none, we'll vote. All those in 37 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,320 favor, please raise your hand. 38 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:24,840 Your 39 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,240 >> You're mine. Okay. 40 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:28,560 >> So, it's unanimous. 41 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,045 >> that need to be sworn in? 42 00:01:31,045 --> 00:01:31,720 >> [laughter] 43 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,320 >> Okay, we'll put that off to the next 44 00:01:33,320 --> 00:01:33,720 meeting. 45 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,240 >> Brandy, Andy. 46 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,280 >> We do have a quorum. 47 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,640 And Aaron, you're taking Michelle's 48 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:40,360 place. 49 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,350 >> Okay. 50 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,320 » And I'll entertain a motion to approve 51 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:48,840 the minutes from the last meeting. 52 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,120 It's been a while since we've had a 53 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,760 meeting, so. 54 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,080 >> A couple of months. 55 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,960 I move that we 56 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,720 accept them. 57 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,680 >> Okay, you got a motion 58 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:01,800 to approve the minutes. Do we have a 59 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,160 second? 60 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:03,960 >> I second. 61 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,600 >> Okay, got a second. Is there any 62 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,430 additions or corrections? 63 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:11,800 Seeing none, we'll vote. All those in 64 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,190 favor, please raise your hand. 65 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,680 Those opposed? 66 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,200 Motion carries. 67 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,600 Okay. 68 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,280 Next item of business 69 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,840 under site plan subdivision. 70 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,920 Pre-application review for proposed 71 00:02:28,920 --> 00:02:30,880 eight-lot subdivision application 72 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,520 submitted by Durago Engineering for 73 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,720 Jeremy 74 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,120 How do you pronounce your name? Reardon? 75 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:38,959 >> It's pronounced Reardon. 76 00:02:38,959 --> 00:02:41,400 >> Reardon? Okay, Reardon to be located on 77 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,520 Fourth Street. 78 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,720 Okay, uh who's going to be speaking? 79 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,640 >> Uh I'll get up and speak to start, but 80 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:51,760 I'll defer any technical questions to 81 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,200 Randy. Everyone, I'm Jeremy. I've come 82 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,280 to you uh apply for a subdivision. Um I 83 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,959 purchased Fourth Street from a gentleman 84 00:02:59,959 --> 00:03:01,880 named Larry Smith out of Cornville about 85 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,440 5 years ago. 86 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,600 There's two newer homes on the property. 87 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,760 Two of them need to be replaced. And I'd 88 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,440 also like to 89 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,120 upgrade in the back. There's quite a bit 90 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,200 of room, I think, to do it. 91 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,320 Um 92 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,160 but what I'd really like to also do is 93 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,720 if the subdivision's approved, 94 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,959 I'd like to also upgrade um this home 95 00:03:21,959 --> 00:03:24,040 and this home. 96 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,120 So, I'm looking to buy possibly six new 97 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,160 mobile homes to put on the property. 98 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,880 Um 99 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,400 I've contracted uh Skowhegan Sand and 100 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,280 Gravel for the groundwork. 101 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,200 They've offered to do that, um take on 102 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,480 the contract. I have um applied for some 103 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,440 financing through Skowhegan Savings. 104 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,239 They've approved me on that, so 105 00:03:47,239 --> 00:03:48,720 we're hoping to get through this process 106 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,390 and 107 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,510 questions. 108 00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:00,750 » Are there any questions? 109 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:01,760 Why 110 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,280 yes, Jeff. 111 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:04,320 Did you want to add before? 112 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:05,000 >> No, no. 113 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,160 >> Okay. 114 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,600 Um well, first off I I'd say thank you 115 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:09,640 for 116 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,120 both the improvement and the expansion. 117 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,560 We do need housing. This is within town, 118 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,040 so appreciate that. Um as far as the new 119 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,799 homes, are those um 120 00:04:20,799 --> 00:04:23,680 Are Are you thinking new or new used? 121 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,120 >> I'm going to purchase I intend to 122 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,320 purchase new homes. Um they're going to 123 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,080 be probably 15 by 60. 124 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:30,720 >> Okay. 125 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,000 >> Yeah. 126 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,400 >> And then my 127 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,080 other question was on lot or 128 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,720 lot 7 and 8. 129 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:38,240 >> Yes. 130 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,040 >> like the number eight may be used in the 131 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,760 future for a house lot, and I just was 132 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,880 curious about any thoughts to any 133 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,200 buffering um between there and the 134 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,120 community center. 135 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,120 >> So I would intend to leave as much um 136 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,760 space between a buffer a tree buffer 137 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,240 between the property and the community 138 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,080 center as possible. 139 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:57,640 Um 140 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:58,800 so I wouldn't be looking to take the 141 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,840 woods back all the way up to it. And as 142 00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:02,600 far as that lot number eight goes, I 143 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:03,600 mean 144 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,480 it would probably be either like a 145 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,800 single wide mobile home with a small 146 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,160 garage or possibly a just a small double 147 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,160 wide or something. So you know, I 148 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,160 wouldn't be looking to put like a big 149 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,520 colonial back there or nothing. Yeah. 150 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:19,480 >> Appreciate that. 151 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,520 >> Or possibly may just be um 152 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,560 another single wide 15 by 60. So 153 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,160 >> Okay. 154 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:27,960 Yeah. Thank you. 155 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,400 >> Yeah. 156 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:30,760 Well, I think I'll let Randy speak. He 157 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,000 can give the details better than I can. 158 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,160 >> Yeah, one of the things one of the 159 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,000 things Sorry, I'll introduce myself. 160 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,120 Randy Butler, I'm with Dirigo 161 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,280 Engineering. Um one of the things you 162 00:05:40,280 --> 00:05:41,960 might notice on the plan is we're trying 163 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,680 to keep the lots relatively large. 164 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,000 Typically, when you think in mobile home 165 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,920 park, you think in tight lots and so 166 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,200 forth. The Sky Higgens minimum size is 167 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,200 6,500 sq. ft. The minimum that we've got 168 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,160 there is 12 169 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,000 almost double that. Lot number three is 170 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,720 at 12,600. 171 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,040 I guess we do have sorry, lot number 172 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,320 five. That's that's the the the smallest 173 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:03,360 of and that's kind of because we're 174 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,440 trying to retain some space for storm 175 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,400 water detention if we need it. And I as 176 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:08,840 I'm looking at that, there is a typo on 177 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:12,200 that. It should be about 6655 178 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,520 sq. ft. Um 179 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,520 you can see the rest of them average 13 180 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,919 to 20,000 give or take. So, they're 181 00:06:19,919 --> 00:06:22,560 decent size lots compared to a typical 182 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,280 mobile home. His intent is just to keep 183 00:06:24,280 --> 00:06:27,360 it uh more open, more 184 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,280 neighborhood setting as opposed to a 185 00:06:29,280 --> 00:06:32,750 crammed in park. 186 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,080 One of the 187 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,480 issues there right now it's just a 188 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,040 gravel road, 189 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,520 um relatively narrow. I think 10 to 12 190 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,320 ft wide and I'm quite sure the fire 191 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,160 chief is going to require a 20-ft width. 192 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,360 Uh that's pretty common on a on a home 193 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:48,680 as this. So, that's what I've drawn in 194 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:49,640 there. 195 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:50,240 Um 196 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,440 typical mobile home park requires 20 197 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,880 state law says 23-ft minimum 198 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,840 right-of-way width. I've gone with 24 199 00:06:56,840 --> 00:06:59,204 just for simple simplicity there. 200 00:06:59,204 --> 00:06:59,240 >> [snorts] 201 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,000 >> Uh and then we show the setbacks there 202 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,270 off the lines as well. 203 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:07,919 Both water and sewer will be public. 204 00:07:07,919 --> 00:07:09,680 And I've got to do some research on 205 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,640 storm drainage. Everything drains toward 206 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,280 West Front Street. As you might have 207 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,960 noticed, there's a typo on that. I 208 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,440 labeled it as West Main. It should be 209 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,320 West Front Street. Um 210 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,200 it drains toward West Front Street, but 211 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:23,560 I've got to do a little bit of research 212 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:24,560 with the 213 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,400 road commissioner to 214 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:28,919 figure out what happens with drainage 215 00:07:28,919 --> 00:07:31,720 down there at the street. 216 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,000 >> So, you're not looking ever to make this 217 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,840 past the town to take this road. 218 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,720 >> Typical mobile home park that it doesn't 219 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,280 happen. No. 220 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:41,440 because of the right-of-way. That's 221 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,000 one of the trade-offs that you make by 222 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,360 doing a mobile home park is your right 223 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,360 away is narrower. That's in order to 224 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,920 make the place affordable and by virtue 225 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,240 of that, most town ordinances are going 226 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:57,350 to require a minimum 50-ft right away. 227 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,520 » So, right now there are two 228 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,320 existing, correct? 229 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:02,000 >> Um 230 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:02,480 >> Four. 231 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:03,640 homes, right? 232 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:04,480 >> are existing. 233 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,080 >> Yeah. So, it's lot one. Well, actually 234 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,760 it's lots one, two, three, and four are 235 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,440 the existing ones. That's why we labeled 236 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:11,960 them that way. 237 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,680 So, lot five would be the first new one. 238 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,240 >> So, the ones that actually show 239 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:17,520 something there. 240 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,240 >> Yeah. Yeah. I've kind of got a little 241 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,960 bit of a cross-hatching around the kind 242 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,760 of a black outline on each of those 243 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,680 existing homes. 244 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,800 >> And do those have cement pads 245 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,720 >> I don't know the answer to that. 246 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,280 >> There's a mixture. 247 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,719 Uh I believe two of the four have cement 248 00:08:32,719 --> 00:08:36,990 pads. 249 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,880 » And has it been long-term? 250 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,760 Have they been there a long time? 251 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,680 >> So, everybody that's been living there 252 00:08:42,680 --> 00:08:45,000 has lived there since before I acquired 253 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,360 the property. 254 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,360 Um the longest 255 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,470 person I believe is over 20 years. 256 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,400 People have stayed. 257 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,720 >> And they're all rentals, then? 258 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,400 >> They are all rentals, yes. 259 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,120 >> In- including the homes, right? You As 260 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,520 far as I understand, you you own the 261 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:02,880 homes as well. So, this is a little 262 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,960 unique scenario. A lot of mobile home 263 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,480 parks, the tenant owns the home, rents 264 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,440 the lot. In this scenario, he owns the 265 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,400 home and the lot, which gives him 266 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,480 flexibility if somebody should move out 267 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,040 to replace that and bring in some bring 268 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,870 in something newer. 269 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,000 » Couple of questions. Go ahead. 270 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,880 >> Um thanks for going over the drainage. I 271 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,560 was looking at the topography and 272 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:24,920 >> Yep. 273 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,640 >> you know, they invested in you, so I was 274 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:27,680 going to ask questions about the 275 00:09:27,680 --> 00:09:28,880 drainage, but you answered that 276 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:29,120 question. 277 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,800 >> Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah, sheet two, if 278 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,000 you're not familiar with it, sheet two 279 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,000 does show the contours, and as you can 280 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,160 see from that, it is all draining toward 281 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:37,840 the road. And that's why we've got that 282 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,200 area reserved for storm water detention. 283 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,840 Just kind of outline, we haven't done 284 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,280 design work on it yet, and kind of 285 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:44,840 looking a little bit for your feedback 286 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,360 as to what your expectations might be on 287 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:48,851 that. 288 00:09:48,851 --> 00:09:49,160 >> [clears throat] 289 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,480 >> And then, you know, I was curious. Uh it 290 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,320 sounds like you are going to talk to, 291 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,320 you know, 292 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,520 find out, and I'll ask 293 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:57,880 our code enforcement person the same 294 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,600 question. But, in regards to the width 295 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,440 of the road, you're prepared to 296 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,040 build that road wider than it exists 297 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:03,680 now. 298 00:10:03,680 --> 00:10:04,320 >> Correct. 299 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,520 >> And then, question I had 300 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:07,120 um 301 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,640 was on the depth of this T-turn or this 302 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:10,080 >> Right. 303 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,360 >> turn at the end, if it is deep enough. 304 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:13,880 >> Yeah, it I should show throw some 305 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,240 dimensions on there. Typically, I do 306 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,440 those a minimum of 40 ft. It might even 307 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,120 be 50 ft there. But, we can confirm that 308 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,480 with the town to make sure that meets 309 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:22,640 your requirements. 310 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,840 >> Great. And then, I was just curious on 311 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,960 lot six, there appears to be two 312 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,440 structures, and I didn't know if those 313 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,040 were just storage buildings right now. 314 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,680 >> Yeah, there's one storage Well, at least 315 00:10:31,680 --> 00:10:33,320 on the at the date of this aerial plan, 316 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:34,520 I don't know if that's still on there or 317 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:35,560 not. 318 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:41,350 >> Um yes, there's on lot six, I have it 319 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,120 Lot six. Yeah, those both of those 320 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,800 buildings will get all the way 321 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:45,360 >> Okay. Yep. 322 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:46,240 >> storage shed. 323 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:46,680 >> Sure. 324 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:50,190 >> Yeah. 325 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,880 So, 326 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,600 one of the first questions was about the 327 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,560 buffer ring between 328 00:10:55,560 --> 00:10:59,120 these back two lots and community center 329 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,120 property. What is there now? 330 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,760 >> It's just it's wooded. Yeah. 331 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:04,120 >> Wooded? 332 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,800 >> Yep, it's Yep, there's woods there. I 333 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,600 think a little bit It's hard to tell 334 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,240 from the aerial imagery. I think a 335 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,280 little bit of the woods goes is on the 336 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,280 community center property, maybe 10 ft 337 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,240 or so of the woods. You can kind of see 338 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,400 a little bit of a an outline that I've 339 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,040 done on the aerial plan, my guess 340 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,320 estimate where the woods line is based 341 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,520 on that the aerial imagery, and I think 342 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,920 I had another later aerial imagery that 343 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,360 the tree showed up a little bit better. 344 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,200 So, I believe that that's So, the idea 345 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,080 is to, you know, retain I don't think 346 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,160 your ordinance has a stated buffer 347 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,280 width. So, you know, something like a 20 348 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,160 25-ft buffer I think is what you 349 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,800 >> I would say maximum buffer possible 350 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,000 would remain. 351 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,560 If I had to guess, there's probably 352 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:47,360 about 50 ft of woods. 353 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,960 Um I'd probably look at maybe just take 354 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,960 20 ft back. 355 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,760 And then you have your remaining 30. 356 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,000 >> Uh my my main question is, you know, 357 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,880 what kind of 358 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,840 how does the uh community center deal 359 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:05,590 with access to the property? 360 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:06,403 » Uh 361 00:12:06,403 --> 00:12:06,520 >> [snorts] 362 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,280 >> I guess I'm not clear on your question. 363 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:08,800 >> Well, the 364 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,480 >> As far as trying to keep keep folks from 365 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,560 the We want to be creating a place where 366 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:15,040 people just come right through into the 367 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,880 property at the end of this. 368 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,400 Well, I I certainly don't think it wants 369 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,240 to be a a shortcut for people that are 370 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:22,600 walking to and from. Is that what you 371 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:23,680 >> Things like that happen. 372 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:24,160 >> Yeah. 373 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,720 >> That's the reason I'm bringing this up. 374 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:26,760 It's like 375 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:27,363 >> Mhm. 376 00:12:27,363 --> 00:12:27,400 >> [clears throat] 377 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,240 >> I'll say that and that already happens. 378 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:30,080 Kids cut through 379 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:30,560 >> there. 380 00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:33,160 >> Um because there's like a a trail. 381 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:33,720 >> There is. 382 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,200 >> And then I almost kind of wonder if 383 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,920 there were two homes there, that might 384 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,400 stop that actually. 385 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:40,360 Um 386 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:41,839 and it's not really a big deal. I 387 00:12:41,839 --> 00:12:43,480 personally don't mind if kids walk 388 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:44,800 through there, but 389 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:45,703 um some of the neighbors I don't 390 00:12:45,703 --> 00:12:47,120 [clears throat] think really like it cuz 391 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,920 they're just whatever. 392 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,400 >> Yeah. 393 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:51,680 >> Um 394 00:12:51,680 --> 00:12:53,960 >> Does anybody know what the uh community 395 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,680 center's policy or what has been done in 396 00:12:56,680 --> 00:12:59,120 the past there? 397 00:12:59,120 --> 00:12:59,880 Any idea? 398 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,720 >> I Well, it's closed at a certain time, 399 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,880 like any park in town. So, there is 400 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,760 probably like a sunset piece for 401 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,320 those facilities. It's interesting cuz 402 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,000 the two structure or the the courts that 403 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,680 are there and the skate park are both 404 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:15,960 fenced, but there is no fencing to 405 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,040 separate property. I just know 406 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:19,760 everywhere else around the community 407 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,680 center it's just like 408 00:13:21,680 --> 00:13:24,040 everyone sort of heads through 409 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,080 any any, you know, any way they can. Um 410 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,880 and I know we have another subdivision 411 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,840 property that's sort of prevented that 412 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,240 by 413 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,200 changing the elevation and fencing. 414 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:35,800 >> Okay. 415 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,160 >> But it still exists in most other spots 416 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:38,320 where 417 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,360 >> Right. Is it a concern for you folks as 418 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:42,840 far as 419 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,600 mandating anything if 420 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:51,760 >> I don't I don't know that I have a big concern unless there's something 421 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,720 in place 422 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,880 already, you know, where it's a has been 423 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,480 a problem for the town and this you 424 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,400 know, this would be the time to deal 425 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,200 with that if it is. 426 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:03,080 >> It could get a pet 427 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,400 >> But if it's if it's working and 428 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,000 everybody don't mind 429 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:08,920 >> I was going to suggest 430 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,080 >> I wouldn't have any 431 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,040 >> Yeah. I'm going to suggest a pet bison 432 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,360 might help deter. 433 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:14,040 >> Yeah. 434 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,600 >> Seems to be the trend these days. Yeah, 435 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:16,880 you know, and it's interesting like I 436 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,200 feel like the buffering question and 437 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,920 some of those it's I almost feel like we 438 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,720 ask it more and more because when these 439 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,600 projects come up people you know, how 440 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,040 can we not ask them about a buffer? And 441 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,600 you know, not anything necessarily 442 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:28,600 mandating but we just 443 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:29,400 >> Right. Yeah. 444 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,120 >> It creates the dialogue that's helpful. 445 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,440 >> Right. In this case, I understand you 446 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,360 want to buffer against other residences. 447 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,200 I guess I'm not sure if there's quite as 448 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,640 much push to have a buffer 449 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,760 to to protect the community center. If 450 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,080 anything it'd be more protecting the 451 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,240 tenants in the park. 452 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,880 >> too is the neighbors wouldn't be yeah. 453 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:51,190 >> [snorts] 454 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,160 » Anybody else have any questions? 455 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:54,880 >> And I'll be honest, mainly the reason I 456 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,240 asked about the homes was I 457 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,400 kind of had heard that they were new. So 458 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,040 I was just saying that again so it would 459 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,760 repeat it. So you go home and read the 460 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:03,920 Scott Hagan page. 461 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:04,400 >> Mhm. 462 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,120 >> People know exactly what's happening. 463 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:06,520 >> Got you. 464 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:07,640 >> You know, there's not some big mystery 465 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:08,320 in what we're 466 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:09,520 >> Right. Good. Thank you. 467 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,550 >> to hear for your sake, yeah. 468 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,320 » My only question is regarding the 469 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:16,800 connection to the public water system. I 470 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,200 see a letter of service from the sewer. 471 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,720 Have you reached out talked Made them 472 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:21,000 aware? work. 473 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,600 >> have but I haven't heard back from them. 474 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,440 I reached out to him and verbally 475 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:25,720 they've got no problem with it. What 476 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,320 he's telling me is that they want to see 477 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,440 a I think right now I've got to double 478 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:30,720 check my notes, but I think he said 479 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,000 there are just two smaller services 480 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,480 serving the park right now, which would 481 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,480 make sense if there's only four homes. 482 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:37,800 You can do those with pretty small 483 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:38,920 lines. 484 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,120 Uh he'd like to see something for a 485 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,040 larger line coming in. 486 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,480 Um probably from the street. Uh so 487 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,560 whatever it might be of 488 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,520 3 4-in line, something of that size 489 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,160 would probably suffice. We've got 490 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,320 there's a mobile home park in 491 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,080 Waterville, not one that we designed, 492 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,960 but from the 1970s [snorts] 493 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,120 has a 100-plus units on a 1 and 1/2-in 494 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,480 line. 495 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:00,560 So it kind of gives you a sense of the 496 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,920 scale of, you know, probably a 2 3-in 497 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,680 line can serve these eight properties 498 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,880 without too much concern. 499 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,920 >> And would you have to run that line 500 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:09,880 all the way up and then 501 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,040 >> We've got a 502 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,600 Yeah, we've got to We've got to Again, 503 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,920 we'll consult with the with the water 504 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,360 department to see where exactly can we 505 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,600 connect. There I'm not even sure which 506 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,440 side the main is on. I suspect it's on 507 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:22,760 the opposite side of the road because 508 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,320 that's where the hydrant is at the 509 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,400 entrance. There's a mobile There's a 510 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,960 Um I don't remember the name of it. 511 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,400 There's a motel right there across the 512 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:31,960 road. 513 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,640 Kays, okay. Yeah, right, that's it. Um 514 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,480 you can see kind of on the the upper 515 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,920 left corner of our plan, you'll see that 516 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,080 little symbol that represents 517 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:42,520 a hydrant. 518 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:43,120 Um 519 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,720 So that's So which which 520 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,720 Uh he said it was just about adequate. 521 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,600 Uh I think he said 522 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,280 I think he told me mid-40s and looking 523 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:54,880 at the elevation differences, we figured 524 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,839 it would it would be adequate. Uh the 525 00:16:56,839 --> 00:16:58,440 question I raised with him was, "Okay, 526 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,440 what about the community center?" 527 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,560 Uh and apparently that's got 528 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,720 marginal adequate, not great pressure, 529 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,120 but enough to service. And that's 530 00:17:07,120 --> 00:17:08,640 roughly the same elevation as what the 531 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,829 upper homes would be at. 532 00:17:12,839 --> 00:17:15,079 So not extreme pressure, but 533 00:17:15,079 --> 00:17:18,590 meets the meets the code. 534 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,560 » Yeah, most uh 535 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,400 private run at 230 and 536 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:26,680 uh 50 anyway. 537 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:27,839 >> Right. Yeah. 538 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:30,720 >> 30 psi at the last place. 539 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:31,720 >> Right. 540 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,120 >> It's not great, but it's 541 00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:33,560 >> Right. 542 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:34,480 >> It will work. 543 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:41,630 >> Correct. 544 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:46,550 Any other questions? 545 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:47,960 Aaron, do you have anything? 546 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,160 >> I don't, no. 547 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,360 >> Everything looks good to you? 548 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:52,560 >> I think so, yeah. We just wait on the 549 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,680 final plans from uh Randy. We give him 550 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,320 the letters to serve as they come in. 551 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,910 So, as long as we have copies of that. 552 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,560 » Very good, Will. 553 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,360 Thank you for uh presenting this to us. 554 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:07,800 It everything looks in order. 555 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,720 We expect to see you at our next meeting 556 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:10,600 or 557 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,560 >> Um possibly, yeah. See if we can get 558 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,080 things lined up at your 559 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,960 >> meet once a month, correct? And you want 560 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:18,720 materials a couple weeks in advance. 561 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,360 >> business we have to take care of, we'll 562 00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:22,040 have a meeting. 563 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,200 >> Okay, very well. Thank you very much. 564 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:24,920 Appreciate it. 565 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:25,800 >> Yeah, thank you. 566 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:30,790 >> Thank you. 567 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:35,710 » Okay, no items by public. 568 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,560 No communications. 569 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,720 Unfinished business, nothing. New 570 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,590 business, nothing. 571 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,840 No selectman here with us today, but we 572 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,480 do have a new selectman 573 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,320 since our last meeting. 574 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,840 And uh I asked who the new chairman was. 575 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,120 And it's Mr. Nolan. Is that correct? 576 00:18:58,120 --> 00:18:59,280 >> No. 577 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:00,160 sir. 578 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:00,600 >> Huh? 579 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,160 >> No, he just voted. 580 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:02,880 >> Nelson. 581 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:03,840 Yeah. 582 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:04,320 >> Oh. 583 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,830 >> Nelson. 584 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,000 So, what? 585 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,800 >> He's down at the park. I just saw him. 586 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,200 And that's our new selectman down there, 587 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,480 >> Who's the new selectman? 588 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,000 >> Uh Matt DuBois. 589 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:16,160 >> Oh. 590 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,360 >> He's the bank guy. 591 00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:20,390 >> All right. 592 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:21,720 » And uh 593 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,750 do you have anything for us? 594 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,150 » I don't. No. Um 595 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,030 just 596 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,960 we got to get you guys form back in. We 597 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,160 need to stop in. We sent the email. 598 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,600 We need to get you guys to stop back in 599 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,960 and take care of the mail. 600 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,800 Reminds us. 601 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:42,640 Um 602 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,360 we are going to buy 603 00:19:44,360 --> 00:19:46,240 we've sent out some emails to you guys 604 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,240 to get forwarded over for the training 605 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,560 that's mandatory now by the end of the 606 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:52,960 year. 607 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,720 It started so it's 6 months from July 608 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:55,840 1st 609 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,520 for the field board, planning board. 610 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,480 Seven hours that need to be done 611 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,920 um in order to be on the board now as 612 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,000 they told me. 613 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,480 Um so we're going to try and get I know 614 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,800 it's kind of hard sometimes they're at 615 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,760 night or they're up and they do them up 616 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,080 at night Bangor or we've been to them 617 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,800 over at uh 618 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,080 what is it? Cross Insurance Center up 619 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,240 there. 620 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,560 Uh 621 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,480 maybe they can do them the one 622 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,520 Brewer but we found uh we can buy uh 623 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,400 buy the training video online and it's 624 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,800 good for 625 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,640 X amount of days. 626 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:28,480 So 627 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,800 that's what we're going to try and do. 628 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,920 Yeah, 30 days I think it is or 60 days 629 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,920 or whenever we buy it and just set up a 630 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,760 time and 631 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,480 >> Will we do it 632 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,080 together or just individually? How 633 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,280 >> Yeah, yeah, we can do it individually. I 634 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,480 think it's like 2 and 1/2 hours so 635 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,160 individually during the week if you guys 636 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,040 want to 637 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,040 >> What is this for? 638 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,840 >> try and you know pop in and we can set 639 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,360 something up downstairs in the in the 640 00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:51,920 small 641 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,760 >> Is that the question? 642 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,720 >> Is there a frequency as in the training 643 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,640 has to be repeated? 644 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,080 >> I don't know. Uh I'll double check. 645 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,640 >> I had it about 3 years ago. 646 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,480 >> Yeah, I'm pretty sure that it I'm pretty 647 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:06,760 positive it was. I can't remember off 648 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,200 the top of head. 649 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,480 Pretty sure it was. I think every I 650 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,160 think everybody pretty much needs it. 651 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:11,440 There's just 652 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:12,320 >> Except to do it once. 653 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,760 >> like one or two. 654 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,280 >> I think Antoinette 655 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,080 recently took it. 656 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,160 >> Yes. 657 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,880 >> How often do you have to do it? 658 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,440 >> That's what we were discussing now. I I 659 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:21,880 don't remember. I I can't remember off 660 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,320 the top of my head. I'd be guessing 661 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,080 again. 662 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,760 >> Sounds like this is just need to have 663 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,680 done it once. 664 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,920 >> No, I think there is a frequency to it. 665 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:30,440 >> Okay. 666 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,280 >> Yeah. 667 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,720 I think everybody except for one or two 668 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,040 of you need it. 669 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:34,760 So, I'm just saying. 670 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,600 >> We can do an evening showing. 671 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,910 Come in, eat some waffles. 672 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,120 Aaron's like, I'll leave you the keys so 673 00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:45,030 you can come in. 674 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,840 » You know, we can talk about it. 675 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,200 May- well, what did your parents say? 676 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,640 Maybe. Maybe. We'll see. 677 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,840 >> We've We've banked, uh, 678 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,560 you know, what? One or two months 679 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:56,000 already. 680 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,600 >> I know. I know. I was like, wow, how 681 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:58,840 many meetings have I missed? And I was 682 00:21:58,840 --> 00:21:59,760 like, oh, wait a minute, it's just the 683 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,480 one I couldn't be in. And And yeah. 684 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,360 >> We have some valuable and disgusting 685 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:05,280 items as a group. That's good. 686 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,000 >> Yeah. 687 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,160 We can invite the select board to our 688 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:08,920 next meeting. 689 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,950 >> Okay. 690 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,160 Aaron, do you have anything? 691 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,040 >> Nope. 692 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,440 >> Antoinette? 693 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,000 >> Anything? 694 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:16,840 >> I'm all set. 695 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,120 >> Yeah. I'm good. I was going to ask about 696 00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:19,880 the training cuz I thought I missed it. 697 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,350 So, but 698 00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:23,720 » Like even Derek 699 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,120 >> I was uh 700 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:26,600 have a 701 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,920 downtown machine where they put them in 702 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:29,840 the back. 703 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,920 The platform of the building, platform 704 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,520 and the walkway with 705 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:35,840 I thought they were going to stop the 706 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:36,920 work 707 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,120 in April. I thought they mentioned they 708 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:41,440 were hoping to get started in April. And 709 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,720 I don't see where they 710 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,440 have any plans or anything on the 711 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,160 bike path. 712 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,000 >> He would know. 713 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,320 Do you 714 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:49,920 Anybody know have any more information 715 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,400 about it? 716 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,680 >> I don't know what their official plan 717 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:53,840 is. For the other side you're talking 718 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,200 about, the whitewater park? 719 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:55,880 >> Yeah. 720 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,000 >> I'm not entirely positive what's going 721 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,600 on over there. I I'm pretty sure they 722 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:00,920 they've awarded of 723 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:01,680 but I don't know if they're 724 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,720 >> They had a groundbreaking 725 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:04,440 for the 726 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,680 >> for the whitewater for the boardwalk. 727 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,200 >> the boardwalk 728 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,280 >> Boardwalk has started. 729 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,480 >> Is that what you're talking about, the 730 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:09,000 boardwalk? 731 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,440 >> No, I'm talking about the 732 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:11,160 >> So 733 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,840 That That's on hold, the board. Yeah. 734 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,640 >> There's some grant money, something, 735 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,600 allocation issues. I'm not 736 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,600 Could be speaking out of turn, but 737 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,560 >> Yeah, that one isn't started cuz it's 738 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,040 not funded fully or something. 739 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,080 >> Yeah. 740 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,080 >> There was some federal funding that's 741 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,040 not available anymore. 742 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,560 So 743 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,920 that started cuz there's funding for 744 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,600 that, and now there's federal funding 745 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,240 coming for phase two of the boardwalk. 746 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,480 Um and some of that has to do with the 747 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,280 fact that they are using um 748 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,080 prior to today, it's um 749 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,360 a specific timber, like an engineered 750 00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:47,880 wood. 751 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,280 That there's an incentive to use, so 752 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,080 the boardwalk, both phase one and two, 753 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,560 are going to be 754 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,000 a very specific timber. Uh 755 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,240 probably some sort of uh material that 756 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,200 comes from the northeast. 757 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,360 So they were actually able to get money 758 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:03,520 from the Northern Border Regional 759 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:04,160 Commission. 760 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,400 >> I think some of the stuff that they 761 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,720 developed at the University of Maine 762 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:08,800 >> It's a little different, you know, I I 763 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,000 was in a meeting today and people are 764 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,240 talking about one of the problems with 765 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,320 the a lot of this engineered wood is 766 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,600 that uh 767 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,160 in mass timber is the, you know, 768 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,360 manufactured timber. Um 769 00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:19,520 you know, it comes from out west or it 770 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,280 comes from down south, and a lot of it, 771 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,320 even though they're doing a lot of the 772 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,120 research at UMaine, some of the sources 773 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:27,200 are limited uh in the northeast. 774 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,760 Um so I'm kind of curious cuz there was 775 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,280 just a big 776 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,080 announcement of $20 million to the state 777 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,960 of Maine, I think to UMaine, to do more 778 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,360 you know, and I think, you know, one of 779 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:40,160 the issues is these um 780 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,840 these byproducts, and, you know, whether 781 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,240 it's plywood or whether it's this 782 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,440 engineered material, you know, a lot of 783 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,480 it is being 784 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,200 studied, developed at UMaine, but 785 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,800 there's not a practical uh manufacturing 786 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,600 of it in most cases yet. 787 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,320 You know, so 788 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,080 >> I'd like to see them start from making 789 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,360 stuff out of him. 790 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:01,480 >> Or bamboo. 791 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,200 >> Yeah, I don't know bamboo. I saw 792 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,960 something where one company is producing 793 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,680 sheet goods to replace OSB 794 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,520 or plywood basically using that product. 795 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,400 They 796 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,320 you know, instead of spending 797 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,720 millions and millions over 5 years to 798 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:27,070 build a big plant, they've got a system 799 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,720 much less cost 800 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,080 and get it going real quick and produce 801 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,430 the same thing. 802 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,880 But we got a lot of wood up here where 803 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:38,640 we're at. 804 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,720 >> Yeah, you know, there's not a market for 805 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,800 white pine. There's not a you know, 806 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,320 there's all this this byproduct 807 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,000 associated with all sorts of wood. It's 808 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,360 time to use it. If you look at the 809 00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:50,840 prices of white pine and some other 810 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,800 wood is sort of just flatlined for 811 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,240 quite a trajectory the cost. 812 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,880 Good to have something. 813 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,680 I do know tomorrow morning and I can 814 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,120 look on my phone, there's like a a 815 00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:04,960 coffee and construction update about 816 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,480 this project here. 817 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,120 So I'm pretty sure it's it's downtown, 818 00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:09,480 but I can look. I just saw some 819 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,960 notification about it. And again, you 820 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,160 get to actually ask the contractors 821 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,960 questions about what they're doing. I 822 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,520 think a lot of the work was um 823 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,680 you know, some demos, some removal and 824 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,760 then there were some test pits dug. 825 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:23,920 I haven't been down there in a little 826 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,800 bit, but it looked like they had started 827 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,080 and pulled some stuff out. Definitely 828 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,680 were digging some holes and then I saw 829 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,040 uh the water company down there, which I 830 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,360 didn't know if that was associated with 831 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:35,160 the project, but you remember what was 832 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,680 there before. 833 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,520 So I think it's a lot of old foundations 834 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,920 that they just filled in and so it'll be 835 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,520 interesting to see what they find when 836 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,800 they get digging. So 837 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,040 >> Yeah, the old river bank 838 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,240 before the dam went in, it was buildings 839 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,320 on both sides. I don't know. Yeah, old 840 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:51,973 picture. 841 00:26:51,973 --> 00:26:54,790 >> [clears throat] 842 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,320 » For the wheels and the whole thing. 843 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,800 >> Police something. 844 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,160 Treasures in there. 845 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,720 >> Is that everything, Randy? 846 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:02,640 >> Yeah. 847 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,108 >> Andy, 848 00:27:03,108 --> 00:27:03,320 >> [laughter] 849 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,280 >> what's that? 850 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,160 >> I'm all set except for I saw something 851 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,080 Clinton did sort of as a an emergency 852 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,120 measure. They had 853 00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:15,680 the ag 854 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,680 Was it the ag department that that shut 855 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,400 down a guy's farm stand? 856 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:22,920 >> Yeah. 857 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,080 >> And because he was selling 858 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,240 fresh 859 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,960 milk of some sort. 860 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:30,880 I 861 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:31,720 So 862 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,560 >> From what I saw I actually I do know I 863 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:34,760 >> know more about it than me. 864 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,200 >> I I've never I've not talked to anybody 865 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,760 at Department of Ag. I just saw it on 866 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,400 social media and I watched a couple of 867 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,680 the videos that the person did. They 868 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,320 were making some value-added farm 869 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,120 products. I can't necessarily speak to 870 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:46,760 the dairy. It sounded like maybe it was 871 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,400 more baked goods and some other things 872 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,720 and maybe some other things in a farm 873 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,600 stand. Um 874 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,560 but I think what happened and and the 875 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,920 person said they were promoting it via 876 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,160 social media and it was getting popular 877 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,680 and so the state realized that these 878 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,800 were unregulated, unlicensed products. 879 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,720 So they came in and shut them down 880 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,120 because of the food sovereignty laws of 881 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:12,440 the state, if a municipality passes an 882 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,200 ordinance that allows for 883 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,360 um 884 00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:19,640 certain products or certain um 885 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,080 I don't want I almost said loopholes and 886 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,960 that's not the correct term, but it's if the municipality passes an ordinance 887 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,440 that allows this, 888 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,400 um 889 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,440 then that type of thing is is, you know, 890 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,720 the state will leave it alone and allow 891 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,520 it. Um 892 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,920 it'll be interesting. I think we could 893 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,720 find out information 894 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,320 from the town of Clinton because they 895 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,000 are sort of sorting through it. I did 896 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,000 watch another interview with the husband 897 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,560 and wife where they were meeting, I 898 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:45,880 believe, with the town's attorney and 899 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,600 the town manager and I believe 900 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,400 I think the town manager in Clinton 901 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,680 lives here in Skowhegan. I think it's 902 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,760 Dan who lives up on North Avenue. Yeah, 903 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,040 Dan Swain. And so they were working 904 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,320 through what the ordinance would be. 905 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,600 Um and then I I kind of lost track of 906 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,400 it, but if that town was to accept that 907 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,000 ordinance, and it was interesting to 908 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,320 hear the folks explain it because they 909 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,320 came up with draft language, and then 910 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,640 they were told by the town that their 911 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,520 language was like too long and it didn't 912 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,280 need to be that long. Um I know many 913 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,040 other municipalities, a lot of smaller 914 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,160 municipalities around the state have 915 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,440 passed 916 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,360 uh food sovereignty ordinances. Um 917 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,080 so 918 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,520 that's that's what I know. 919 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,720 >> I think it's something that would be 920 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,080 good for us to do. 921 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,680 >> Do we we don't have uh food sovereignty 922 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,560 here or do we need it? 923 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,800 >> We have a We have a a state 924 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:35,080 >> Yeah. 925 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,520 >> thing, but 926 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,840 the idea is 927 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,270 if somebody decides to 928 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,200 grow something on their land or raise 929 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,400 some animals and 930 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,960 sell some milk or 931 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,480 >> For personal use I think it's okay. 932 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,360 >> But 933 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:58,550 you know, it's uh 934 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,470 the whole 935 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,400 I'm all for the freedom of people to be 936 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,920 industrious 937 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,240 with the land that they have. 938 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,520 >> Mhm. 939 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,880 >> A lot of people want to sell 940 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:11,800 >> Huh? 941 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,640 >> A lot of people want to sell it 942 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:14,440 local grown 943 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,320 >> And you know, and people know what 944 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,680 they're getting. You know, they're not 945 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,120 >> Might be safer than lettuce. 946 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,920 >> It might be safer than a lot of things 947 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,120 you're going to get in a Walmart or or 948 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,080 you know 949 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,200 >> ground beef recall 950 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,400 at Walmart. 951 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,800 >> So it it's interesting. I don't 952 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,600 necessarily know the full scope of 953 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,800 products they have there, but it also 954 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,400 does seem like especially in Central 955 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,720 Maine 956 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,960 there is very much this trend of uh 957 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,320 baked goods 958 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,800 and uh the baked goods seem to be sold 959 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,040 you know via relationships through 960 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,160 social media. And they sort of have this 961 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,520 local following which is very 962 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,840 interesting. I I you know along the 963 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,160 lines with the chairman saying I've 964 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,560 always been sort of a supporter of the 965 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,760 cottage industries and so I think we 966 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,120 could take what Clinton is doing 967 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,600 probably not have to reinvent the wheel 968 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,760 let them do the work. 969 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,360 They're clear I we could find out very 970 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,000 quickly who their town attorney is or if 971 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,600 they're working with the municipality or 972 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:13,600 if it's 973 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,400 with Cog. 974 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,360 But yeah, I think it would be worth 975 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,320 having a conversation. I I imagine once 976 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,840 we start to have the conversation there 977 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,400 will be people in town that will engage. 978 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,040 You know probably on both sides and then 979 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,360 there'll be some people I think that we 980 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,640 could tap into. 981 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,720 >> I think we have a significant farmers 982 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,760 market over here that is pretty much 983 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,440 doing that already. 984 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,560 That 985 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:37,120 >> Yeah. 986 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,520 >> It's my understanding though that you 987 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,840 know if you're going to sell baked goods 988 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,280 you know any like the farmers at the 989 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,280 market they have to have some sort of 990 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,840 commercial kitchen license right? 991 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:47,360 Um 992 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,000 >> Yeah, we sold granola. 993 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,320 >> Yep. 994 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,840 >> We had to have a state 995 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,800 >> Yep. 996 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,080 >> It's not 997 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,280 We had to have 998 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,760 a couple sinks. 999 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,640 Which we already had in place. 1000 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:01,040 >> Yeah. 1001 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,720 >> It's interesting how the towns people in 1002 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,480 Clinton rallied 1003 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,800 to get things squared away 1004 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,000 for the town meeting. 1005 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:18,750 That was That was I said they are 1006 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,960 » Anyway, that's something we could 1007 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,240 we can uh 1008 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,680 see what the mindset of uh 1009 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:32,230 the select board is concerning that. 1010 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,120 I'm all for things of that nature. 1011 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,200 Yeah, and there's some people we could 1012 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,880 reach out to both that are fully 1013 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,200 licensed, have a lot of experience, and 1014 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,880 then there are people that live in town 1015 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,600 that are very engaged in the food 1016 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,560 sovereignty sort of movement, and would 1017 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,200 have a lot of expertise, and and we 1018 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,200 could tap into those folks as well. 1019 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:57,070 >> I think Amber would be a good choice. 1020 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,270 I mean grains. 1021 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,440 » Hey. 1022 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,320 Is that good? 1023 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,982 Very good. 1024 00:33:05,982 --> 00:33:07,600 >> [laughter] 1025 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:08,840 >> Okay, I'll entertain a motion to 1026 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,960 adjourn. 1027 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,160 >> So moved. 1028 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:11,960 >> Do we have a second? 1029 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:12,960 >> I'll run with that. 1030 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,000 >> You're not allowed. 1031 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,107 >> Oh, that's right. 1032 00:33:17,117 --> 00:33:20,630 » [laughter] 1033 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,680 » So we got a second. All those in favor, 1034 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,323 please raise your hand. 1035 00:33:24,323 --> 00:33:25,520 >> [laughter] 1036 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,480 >> We're adjourned. 1037 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,080 I was like, how much Aaron likes to 1038 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,600 remind everyone they have to do those 1039 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,720 types of things like swearing and see, 1040 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:39,270 you know. 1041 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,640 I would say the um