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» To the May 19th, 2026 city council work

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session meeting. Um, our meetings are

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public and you're welcome to join us in

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person or by watching from the council

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agenda page, Zoom, uh, or YouTube. Um we

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hope that you will continue to join us

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in whichever manner you feel the most

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comfortable. Uh this is a work session

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during which there is no public comment.

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Uh you can join us on May 19th during

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our 7 p.m. formal meeting to share your

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comments. Uh we of course welcome your

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feedback anytime by mail at PO Box

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are shared with council members and

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Our first agenda item is item one, which

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is a fiscal year 2026 2027 budget

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council staff overview. And we're going

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to turn the time to Jennifer Bruno, our

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council executive director.

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» Thank you so much, Mr. Chair. I will

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just um share my screen.

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Here we go.

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Why is it not?

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There we go.

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Um, so this is just a a perspective from

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the legislative branch looking at the

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overview of the budget as it's been

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presented by the mayor. Obviously, um,

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Mary Beth and the finance team did a

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great job going over, um, how the budget

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is put together from a, you know,

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dollars and cents perspective,

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percentages, changes in different

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departments. This is a a little bit of a

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um higher level kind of conceptual

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overview of the budget. Um I don't know

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why it did that.

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Uh the role of the council. So this is

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one thing that we just to remind the

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council the reason why uh the council

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looks at the budget um in the depth that

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Let's see why is it not okay having

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technical issues on myself. [laughter]

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The reason why the council looks at the

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budget is is really to address what does

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the community need in real time. Every

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year that changes and um the reason why

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you all are elected is to um hear from

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your residents what are the needs? They

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change every year. What are what are the

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ways that those needs can be addressed?

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Usually it relates to money. And so

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that's um I think the main purpose of

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the budget. Um but the other kind of uh

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values that we hold um in terms of

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looking at the budget and the the role

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that the council has in the budget is

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how any decision you make this year

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might affect budgets in future years,

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right? Because um you can't necessarily

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bind councils, but I mean even this year

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we've gotten questions about how did we

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end up in this property tax increase

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situation and you know how how did our

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decisions in the past bring us here. So

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that's something that will will be a

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theme throughout several of the

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department um budget discussions. Um

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that kind of also relates to that next

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bullet point of how any decisions you

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guys make this year might create

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unintended consequences both from a

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um citizen experience perspective,

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right? Any decisions you guys make might

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have the ability to for example see less

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watering in parks or less mowing in

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parks, things like that. Um, so we want

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to be sure to just disclose all of the

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potential consequences that might come

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from any budget decisions you make. And

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then I'm really proud of how our city

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um, ensures a transparent um, process

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for the budget so that we are very open

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with the public about how we're using

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tax dollars. Um, uh, just as a reminder,

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our budget hub is link.slc.govfy20.

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um for any budget information uh for

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anyone who's looking. Um and then you

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know of course all of that is rooted in

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the policy goals and priorities of the

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council. The policy goal of equity, the

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policy goal of transparency, um the

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policy goal of taking care of our um

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community, our assets, things like that.

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So that's another reason why um just

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some highle takeaways from the mayor's

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proposed budget. Um from the legislative

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perspective, this is the first

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substantial property tax increase in

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several years. Um and I think the mayor

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mentioned um in her speech that it

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wasn't a decision taken lightly um and

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uh that it it was uh arrived at with

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serious u evaluation. I think the next

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bullet point gets to what that

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evaluation was was which is that it cuts

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almost an equivalent amount from the

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overall budget as the amount of the

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property tax increase. Um, one council

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member asked me how we would explain to

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citizens that they're paying more

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um and potentially getting less. And I

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guess um it was um this sort of a light

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bulb moment when I went to the grocery

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store recently and you know you are

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spending more and there is less in your

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grocery cart and it's just it that is

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the that that is the reality that we're

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living. [clears throat] Um I think that

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it's important for this council to know

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though that a lot of those cuts are um

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potentially one time in nature. I think

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that the administration challenged

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departments to come up with efficiencies

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and I they did an admira admirable job

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coming up with those efficiencies.

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It's always interesting to see how those

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efficiencies can last over time, right?

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And if those are efficiencies that can

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last into the future and especially as

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it relates to operations.

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um it does use less money, less sorry,

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less one-time money than in previous

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years, which um you know, Mary Beth and

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I talk about have talked about for 20

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one of those goals that we're always

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trying to achieve is aligning one-time

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money with one-time expenses and ongoing

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money with ongoing expenses. Um,

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something that you'll probably hear

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about from residents who might be

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employees of the city is that there's no

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across the board cost of living increase

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for employees. And um, this is the first

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year in a long time that that will be

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the case for city employees. And so

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because those employees are also

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experiencing inflation, that's, you

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know, something that's uh, difficult.

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employee, they're grateful for a job and

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not to be laid off. So um, there is an

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increased investment in affordable

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housing. uh but it is in different

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formats. So last year the investment in

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affordable housing was about $8 million.

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That said, funding our future uh the

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transfer the typical transfer for

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funding our future that goes to the RDA

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for the NOA is being paused for one

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year. I think there was a recognition

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that the westside community initiative,

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so the money that the city gets from the

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tax increment from the inland port has

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grown pretty significantly since

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previous years. And so it enables the

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RDA to continue investment in affordable

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housing without that NOA or sorry

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without the funding our future dollars.

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Um but I think I'm just flagging that as

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a a thing to consider in the long term.

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those funding our future dollars for

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affordable housing are really flexible.

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Um whereas the westside community

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initiative dollars are um by our own

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policy um guided to be west of I-15.

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Um that said that there there's still

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significant investments in affordable

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housing from RDA programs and project

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areas. So there will still continue to

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be sorry CRA I'll remember that at some

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point. Um there will continue to be um

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investments in affordable housing in the

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different CRA project areas. Um and

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you'll hear more about the CRA budget on

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Tuesday. So we'll get into that more. Um

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it does also add 40 FTEES in critical

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service areas. So I think we talk about

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like how to balance the budget while

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recognizing that it's not that the needs

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have decreased in our city. So the

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efficiencies that departments have

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realized um have enabled the and and

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then the proposed property tax uh

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increase have enabled um the budget to

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add FTEES in critical service areas. And

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I left um the fire department off here,

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but fire justice court legal system CIP

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are kind of the main highlights. And

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I'll there's a chart in a little bit

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later that I'll go through that. Um,

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this is something we talk about a lot in

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that each kind of decision you guys

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make, each um, big topic in the budget

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has balancing tests, right? It's not

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that there's a right answer or a wrong

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answer. It just means that you're

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balancing different outcomes of

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decisions. So, um I I'm not going to

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read all of these, but as an example,

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the property tax increase, it does add

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to the burden on residents and

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businesses in the city, but on the flip

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side, it also helps reduce the

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structural deficit in the future because

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it it aligns ongoing money with ongoing

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needs. Um it also reduces the city's

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reliance on sales tax, which is a

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volatile source of revenue. Um that is

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something that I think a lot of cities

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rely heavily on. Um, we've seen our city

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grow in our reliance on sales tax and

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that's something that I think the budget

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nerds of the city have appreciated to,

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you know, as uh as a good thing, meaning

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we have a robust sales tax revenue

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source, but it is a volatile source of

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revenue and if the economy turns and our

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budget is balanced on sales tax, that is

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a difficult thing to adjust. Whereas

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property tax is a reliable source of

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revenue. So, [snorts]

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um I'll just leave the rest of those um

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for you guys to read at another time. Um

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this is the general fund revenue trends.

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The only reason I'm sharing this is that

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and the reason that there's a red that

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it went down in this proposed budget.

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The main reason is because, and I think

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Mary Beth talked about this on Tuesday,

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the um finance department is proposing

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to separate the CRA property tax revenue

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and the library property tax revenue

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into an entirely different account from

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the general fund. So, I just wanted to

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flag that because we do these like

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longitudinal, you know, charts of what's

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happening with revenues and whenever you

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make like a policy shift, I think it's

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important to kind of call that out.

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Um, we've gone through this, I think, at

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the retreat. The only things that you

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guys can control that the city can

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control are property taxes, use of fund

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balance, and then other revenue, which

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is essentially fees. You cannot control

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sales tax. Um,

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you you can if the state lets you, if

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the state authorizes you guys to enact

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sales tax, you can. Um, this uh I think

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we've also been through. This is just

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kind of showing um the property tax

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distribution um for a typical kind of

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Salt Lake City household. Just to

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highlight that Salt Lake City's portion

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of the property tax bill is about 25%.

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Um I've also separated out some of the

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bonds that are um being discussed in

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both the city, the county, and the

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school district. Um, I think especially

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the school district in Salt Lake City,

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voters approving the school district's

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bond this last I can't remember if it

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was last calendar year or the year

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before. Um, but it's a very very very

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significant bond. And so that will be

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something that I think it will be

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important for taxpayers to look for and

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know about um in future years. What most

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people don't realize is that the bill

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for bonds does not show up until the

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entity, whether it's the school district

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or the county or whoever, actually

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issues the bond. And so that could be 2

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years after you vote. That could be 5

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years after you vote. There's a 10-year

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um time frame for tax exempt bonds to

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issue those bonds, but um I think that's

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important for people to know. Um

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so truth in taxation. So, this has come

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up uh a lot in the last um couple of

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weeks. Do your property taxes go up when

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the value of your home goes up? This is

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not supposed to be like a pop quiz, but

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» No, you guys passed. Good job.

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[laughter]

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So, um Utah is unique. It has a truth

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and taxation process that the core value

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of that truth and taxation process is to

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hold the government's budget the same.

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So if you consider that baseline

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property tax budget that green line as

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what the state wants us to operate with.

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So if your the value of your home goes

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up the rate of property taxes that

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0.0000 0000 whatever figure

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automatically goes down. And that

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automatic thing happens at the state tax

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commission level because we tell the

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state tax commission what is the dollar

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amount that we need that green line to

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be. Do we need that dollar amount to be

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$50 million? Do we need it to be $80

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million? What we're assume what they're

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assuming is that we have the same dollar

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amount yeartoear. So if your value goes

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up, the rate goes down. In theory,

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you're paying the same amount of money.

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Likewise, if your value goes down, and

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this actually happened in 2009 when

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property values really tanked um in the

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area, the rate actually floats up to

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hold the government harmless to values

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going down. So, um you could think about

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this in a case like Detroit, right? That

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might have been helpful for their

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government to have that system. They

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don't have that system there. So um

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there are there are pros and cons to the

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truth and taxation system but this is

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the system we have in Utah. The only

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exception is new growth which is you

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know like you have a blank piece of

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property and then next year you have an

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apartment building on that blank piece

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of property and so now that property is

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considered new growth and the city is

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allowed to collect more money because of

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that property. Um or if you say like

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we're saying this year that green line,

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that baseline property tax budget is not

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enough to pay for our bills. We need to

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increase that green line by $13 million.

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And so we're going to ask residents what

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they think about that and go through a

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tooth and taxation process and we're

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going to raise that money. Um this is

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just a kind of hypothetical of what

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happens with new growth. So um again

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that baseline property tax budget is

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where we operate on a normal basis. If

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new development occurs in the city that

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raises our new

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baseline essentially. So um

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hypothetically so for example in this

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budget the um uh mayor's finance team

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projects that we'll get approximately

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$2.5 million from new growth this year.

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Um they actually they do a great job

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kind of projecting that based on

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building permits and certificates of

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occupancy which are kind of which are

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really good indicators of is this thing

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an actual new thing or is this just you

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know a building that was remodeled. Um

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it doesn't always pan out and we don't

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find out the actual new growth figure

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until uh June 12th now um by state law.

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So then we can collect um additional

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money from that new development.

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[sighs] This is um intended to just be

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uh an overview of what your tax notice

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will look like in July. This is what

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most residents will get in July. I've

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blocked out I just picked a random

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resident. I've blocked them out to

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protect the innocent. Um but I just

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wanted to highlight in that gold um kind

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of bar on the left there. Those are the

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only lines related to Salt Lake City. Um

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it's really important and um our

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communications group is working on ways

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to make it more accessible for to

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educate folks how to read through their

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property tax statement because that

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tells you which government should I call

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if I have concerns about the total bill

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that's at the bottom of that number. The

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other thing I wanted to highlight here

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that I think is not always um uh obvious

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is in Utah um when you have a primary

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residence you receive a 45%

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value reduction. So for example, this

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home is assessed at in 2024, so this was

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from 2024 is assessed at 787,500,

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but the taxes are assessed on 433,125.

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So it's a benefit to homeowners in Utah

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and um which is great for homeowners. It

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does cause it does cause the uh

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situation where when governments decide

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to increase taxes whether it's the city

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or the county or whoever um it it's kind

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of a disproport disproportionate version

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or u burden on commercial properties.

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Commercial properties do not receive

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that same exemption and so they are

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taxed at the full value of their

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property.

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Next, this is um the these are the

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amounts that are in the proposal for the

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fiscal year 2027 property tax increase.

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Um the state law was changed this last

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year to require a property tax impact

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statement, which I think is helpful from

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a transparency perspective, frankly, to

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let residents see exactly what their

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additional money is paying for. So you

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can see 1.7 million of the property tax

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increase is going to fire. 98,000 is

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going to public lands, 432,000 to

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justice court, 172,000 to the attorney's

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office, 800,000 to CAN. Um it might be

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helpful here to say youth and family

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programming. Um

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the city has recognized that federal

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grants for youth and family programming

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have been eliminated or reduced and um

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this is the city stepping into that

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space to make sure those programs don't

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end. The uh almost half of the property

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tax increase is going to CIP. The next

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slide will talk about exactly which

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projects in CIP are proposed to be

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funded with the property tax increase.

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And then several items that you can see

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in non-departmental.

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Um you can see that uh 961,000 is

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related to legal defenders. So I think

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we talked about that on Tuesday in the

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justice court briefing that you know the

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justice court is kind of a holistic

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system that requires if you're going to

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in if you are increasing in one area you

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need like judges for example you also

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need to increase in prosecutors and

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legal defenders because it's a a whole

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system. So that adds up to the total $13

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million increase. These are the um

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proposed CIP projects that will be

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funded with the property tax increase.

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Um I think I mean from from my takeaway

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it seems that most of these items fit in

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the category of maintaining or fixing

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what we already have. I think maybe the

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one exception is the vision zero safety

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improvements citywide which I know has

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been a a huge um goal of the councils.

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This also notes that if for some of

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these items, the [clears throat]

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property tax increase isn't the only

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funding source for some of those items.

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Some of those items are combined with

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the general fund or um county funds or

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class C funds in order to make that

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total higher. So, for example, street

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reconstruction, total investment in

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street reconstruction for the fiscal

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year 27 budget is 8.3 million of which

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the property tax is paying 627.

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Um, this is a chart just kind of showing

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where the FTEES are changing. Um, and

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again, I don't want to read through all

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of this text. Sorry for all the text on

550
00:33:33,919 --> 00:33:39,279
the [laughter] slides, but this is to

551
00:33:36,399 --> 00:33:41,120
show uh the in red is where um

552
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:45,039
departments are proposing to eliminate

553
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:47,279
FTEES and in blue um is showing where

554
00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:50,799
some FTEES are contingent upon the

555
00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:53,120
property tax proposal. Um there are also

556
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:54,559
several additional FTEES that are being

557
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,200
proposed that are not part of the

558
00:33:54,559 --> 00:34:01,760
property tax proposal. You guys are

559
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:03,519
fully um empowered to decide which FTEES

560
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:06,080
are funded with the property taxes and

561
00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:08,879
which FTEES should just be in the base

562
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,480
budget. So this is what is proposed but

563
00:34:08,879 --> 00:34:13,040
it doesn't mean that you guys have to

564
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,520
stick with it.

565
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:18,079
Um so some other consideration for

566
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,079
residents as they think about um bills

567
00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:21,520
both property taxes and other bills is

568
00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:23,359
the decisions of other governmental

569
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:26,000
entities right like school district's

570
00:34:23,359 --> 00:34:29,760
decision for on raises county's decision

571
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:32,159
on properties to buy things like that um

572
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,000
and especially bonds I've noticed that

573
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:38,079
um especially school districts are

574
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:40,480
relying very heavily on bonds um and

575
00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:43,760
there are usually several years that

576
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,839
separate when voters go to the polls,

577
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,000
decide that they want new buildings for

578
00:34:45,839 --> 00:34:49,599
their kids, and then when the bill

579
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,119
actually comes due, there's usually

580
00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:54,560
several years separating that. So, just

581
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:57,119
as a good reminder of that, um again,

582
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:59,359
the geo geo bond thing. And then, um

583
00:34:57,119 --> 00:35:01,839
utility fee increases um city and Rocky

584
00:34:59,359 --> 00:35:04,560
Mountain Power and um the administration

585
00:35:01,839 --> 00:35:06,160
has put together a handy, um calculator

586
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,680
for people to figure out their rates.

587
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,520
That's another thing that our

588
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,680
communication staff has been working on

589
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,920
with um the administration's

590
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:17,920
communication staff about how to make

591
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:20,640
sure um that's all um transparently

592
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,960
communicated to residents. And then this

593
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,920
this slide was actually left over from

594
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:28,119
the retreat, but I decided to keep it in

595
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,880
because I just can't help myself.

596
00:35:28,119 --> 00:35:32,000
[laughter]

597
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:36,400
This is diverted revenue. So, I think

598
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:38,720
that our city um is in a unique position

599
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,640
because we're the capital city. We get a

600
00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:43,280
lot of attention and we have a lot of

601
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:45,599
very important projects that want to

602
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,520
locate here, which is great. I think the

603
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:49,680
flip side of that coin is that sometimes

604
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:52,400
those projects, the funding for those

605
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:54,240
projects can come with diversion of

606
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,880
revenue that would otherwise come to the

607
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:59,599
general fund. And so I think we have to

608
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,920
keep that in mind as we talk about

609
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:03,680
property tax increases and talk about

610
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,520
how to balance the budget is that the

611
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:08,480
reason we're sometimes in this

612
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:10,000
especially tight situation is because

613
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,920
several million dollars of ours has

614
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:16,720
already been spoken for or has already

615
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:19,839
been diverted. So that's that.

616
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:21,920
Sorry for all the talking.

617
00:36:19,839 --> 00:36:23,280
Um do you guys have any questions? And I

618
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,200
see we have council member Wharton

619
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,640
that's joined us on online as well. So

620
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,520
we have council member Wharton and Petro

621
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,040
online.

622
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,480
» Council member Dugan.

623
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,720
» Thanks Jennifer. I appreciate that very

624
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,400
much. And back to the truth and

625
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:37,359
taxation.

626
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:39,920
» So that those rules apply to all the

627
00:36:37,359 --> 00:36:40,640
line items in your property tax.

628
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,359
» Yes.

629
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,400
» Bill.

630
00:36:41,359 --> 00:36:48,640
» So there's 12 line items I think we have

631
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:51,760
in our bill. So each line item has that

632
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:54,400
same requirement of the baseline new

633
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,160
growth increases it but otherwise it has

634
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,560
to be the same there.

635
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,960
» And so when residents see a property tax

636
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:03,520
increase it could be from the county the

637
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,240
school board mosquito abatement

638
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,440
» Metro water

639
00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:06,960
» Natural water

640
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:11,200
» Central Utah water project

641
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:14,560
» Others. Yes. So uh but ours Salt Lake

642
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,839
City is those three there that you

643
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,480
highlighted in the middle.

644
00:37:15,839 --> 00:37:24,240
» Yes. I think the maybe the one asterisk

645
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:28,960
I would say is on each entity the bond

646
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:30,480
line item is the one exception where

647
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,320
an entity does not need to go through

648
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,880
truth and taxation to increase the

649
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:38,800
amount. What we and what we have to do

650
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:41,920
is send the tax commission our exact

651
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:44,160
bill for all of the bonds we have to

652
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,981
pay. Um and then the tax commission

653
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,960
allows us to set that rate on the bill

654
00:37:46,981 --> 00:37:51,040
[clears throat] to pay those uh geo

655
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,480
bonds. Not our sales tax bonds. Our

656
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:56,160
sales tax bonds are built into our

657
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:58,320
general fund, but our geo bonds. Um, so

658
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:02,480
for example, uh, the second trunch of

659
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:04,320
the parks bond will likely, um, and

660
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,960
maybe Mary Beth can correct me here.

661
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:09,520
Will it appear on this calendar year's

662
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,440
tax notices or next calendar year? It'll

663
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,720
be this calendar year. Okay. So, that's

664
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,320
something that Salt Lake City residents

665
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:16,640
will see is the second trunch of the

666
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:19,040
parks bond, which they approved um, you

667
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:23,680
know, several years ago voting for. So,

668
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:26,079
» And one more question on the uh uh pay

669
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:29,520
raise side of the house.

670
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:30,320
That's for the un uh

671
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,280
» Non-represented.

672
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,160
» Non-represented.

673
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,960
» Sorry. Thank you for that.

674
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,599
» Employees.

675
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,560
» Yeah.

676
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:38,720
» And that is I don't know what the

677
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,000
percentage of employees that is, but

678
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:43,440
it's non-representative. It's not

679
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,240
police. It's not the fire. It's not uh

680
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:44,640
ask me.

681
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:46,640
» Yes.

682
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,200
» It's a non-representative employees on

683
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,880
that side.

684
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,359
» That is accurate. And I I probably

685
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:53,599
should have clarified, there is a line

686
00:38:51,359 --> 00:38:56,240
item in each department that uh

687
00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:58,480
department directors can work within a

688
00:38:56,240 --> 00:39:00,000
line item, a certain amount of money. Um

689
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:03,200
and it's based on how many employees are

690
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:05,680
in each department to give um market

691
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,359
adjustments or pay increases to specific

692
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,760
employees on a case- by case basis. So

693
00:39:07,359 --> 00:39:11,520
it's not necessarily like to hold

694
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,079
employees stagnant in their careers.

695
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,560
It's just um recognizing the tight

696
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:16,880
budget,

697
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:19,200
» Right? It was it was to bring those who

698
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,599
are below well below the market rate up

699
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,320
to closer to or at least to the market

700
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:22,800
rate.

701
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,119
» Yes.

702
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:27,839
» Correct. Okay.

703
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:32,000
» Thank you.

704
00:39:27,839 --> 00:39:34,800
» Any other questions online? No,

705
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,240
» You don't see any hands up. Oh, looks

706
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,800
like council member Wharton has a

707
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:41,359
question.

708
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:44,880
» Thank you. Um thanks Jen for that

709
00:39:41,359 --> 00:39:46,800
overview and um explaining the um truth

710
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,320
in taxation.

711
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,280
Um

712
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:53,760
can you talk [clears throat] a little

713
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:58,640
bit about um how

714
00:39:53,760 --> 00:40:00,640
given the um 13.5 million

715
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,880
um

716
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:05,520
what would

717
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,807
um so a lot of residents have said just

718
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,000
you know cut cut make cuts

719
00:40:07,807 --> 00:40:12,800
» [clears throat]

720
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:15,760
» Um cut back um you know cut cut back on

721
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:22,560
the extras is what I've heard a lot of

722
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:24,480
um can Can you talk about how um

723
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,960
just what that would would look like in

724
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,720
a situation like this when we're where

725
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:32,320
we have something [clears throat]

726
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:34,960
um as high as 13.5 million.

727
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,640
» Yeah, I think and I would welcome um you

728
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,560
know if Mary Beth or if anyone from the

729
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,720
mayor's team wanted to speak more to it.

730
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,800
I think what I observe is that there w

731
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:45,359
there is a lot of cutting back in this

732
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:47,760
budget. Um and in fact it's just about

733
00:40:45,359 --> 00:40:50,800
the same amount as the property tax

734
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:54,880
increase. So each department um was

735
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:58,880
asked to find 5% of their uh department

736
00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:02,000
budget in cuts. Um not all of it ended

737
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:04,160
up you know it was evaluated obviously

738
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,680
with the needs of the city. And so, um,

739
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,599
it doesn't necessarily mean that each

740
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:10,960
department was cut by 5%, but you'll

741
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:14,480
see, um, in the, uh, key changes that

742
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:16,960
each department has, um, has made pretty

743
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,319
significant cuts. I think I flagged um

744
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:22,640
for you guys in the beginning of this

745
00:41:18,319 --> 00:41:25,520
though, one concern um I could see is

746
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:28,319
how sustainable are those cuts and are

747
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:30,000
we going to find that um what a

748
00:41:28,319 --> 00:41:32,640
department thought that they could do

749
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:36,480
without or push off for a couple years

750
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:39,440
is really needed. Um I I I observed that

751
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:41,839
in the aftermath of the 2009 budget

752
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:44,640
crunch where there were a lot of cuts

753
00:41:41,839 --> 00:41:46,240
made out of necessity. Um and then we

754
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,560
realized that a lot of those cuts were

755
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:51,520
really to essential functions of the

756
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:53,280
city. Um so yes, so we there are a lot

757
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,960
of cuts in that and I think we can focus

758
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,960
on that as each department comes to

759
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,319
brief you guys. I think that would be

760
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,359
helpful.

761
00:41:58,319 --> 00:42:04,640
» Yeah. I mean one that comes to my mind

762
00:42:01,359 --> 00:42:07,200
that was impacted

763
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:10,319
you know even when I came on to the

764
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:12,000
council and we did funding our future in

765
00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:16,880
2018.

766
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:18,880
Um and that was that we, you know, uh

767
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:22,480
before the recession, we had two road

768
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:25,760
crews, um that that just worked around

769
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:31,200
the clock, um all, you know, repairing

770
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:33,280
and um one of them was cut. Um and we

771
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:36,800
didn't

772
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:41,520
bring that back until after the road

773
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:45,839
study. Um and um as part of funding our

774
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:48,480
future and um found that be you know the

775
00:42:45,839 --> 00:42:52,720
re by cutting that and having it gone

776
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:55,200
for essentially 10 years um this date

777
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:57,760
the overall quality of our roads was

778
00:42:55,200 --> 00:43:01,280
going down every year and we were it was

779
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:03,040
kind of compounding instead of us um e

780
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,560
keeping up with the problem or reducing

781
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,160
the problem. like the roads were

782
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:09,440
crumbling faster than we could repair

783
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:13,359
them because we only had one crew. Um,

784
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:16,160
are there other examples that uh you can

785
00:43:13,359 --> 00:43:18,319
think of that you um you said that you

786
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,760
had some thoughts come to mind from back

787
00:43:18,319 --> 00:43:24,000
then?

788
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:27,440
Um I think that the other um area that

789
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:30,880
was cut pretty significantly in ' 09 was

790
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:33,359
seasonal and maintenance dollars from

791
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,960
public lands which at that point was um

792
00:43:33,359 --> 00:43:36,480
in

793
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,760
I can't remember the name of the

794
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,119
department now. It was in a big it was

795
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,520
in a different department. It wasn't its

796
00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:42,720
own department but it was cut

797
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:46,640
» Public services I think.

798
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:50,079
» Yeah. Yeah. And I think um it took

799
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:52,640
several you know years maybe a decade

800
00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:56,160
for us to kind of bring that back and I

801
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:57,760
think that um to some extent I think

802
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,079
what we hear from residents to some

803
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:03,839
extent is still maybe lingering effects

804
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:08,640
of that. Um I don't see that level of

805
00:44:03,839 --> 00:44:11,920
cut coming in this budget. I think the

806
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:15,119
benefit of having this budget, the cuts

807
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:18,319
in this budget being part of the mayor's

808
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:19,760
deliberative process and not be if um

809
00:44:18,319 --> 00:44:22,400
those of you who are around in09

810
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,560
remember we had to make a lot of those

811
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:28,500
cuts in the middle of the fiscal year.

812
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:29,119
So it was kind of mi midstream cuts.

813
00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:31,680
[laughter]

814
00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:33,040
So the options are a lot more limited

815
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,960
when you're cutting in the middle of a

816
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,720
budget year than when you're looking

817
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,480
forward into the next budget year and

818
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:41,760
can be a little bit more strategic. And

819
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:43,839
so um just my general observation for

820
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,960
this budget is that those cuts are a

821
00:44:43,839 --> 00:44:46,240
little bit they're a little bit more

822
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,599
strategic. I think it doesn't

823
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:51,760
necessarily completely erase the the

824
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:54,720
need to be vigilant about when we

825
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:57,200
realize that cuts are not sustainable.

826
00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:59,760
So,

827
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,760
» Thank you.

828
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,200
» Um, thank you, Jen. Always love hearing

829
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,440
you talk about the budget and how

830
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,839
animated you get and how clear you

831
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:10,000
explain it to to all of us and to folks

832
00:45:07,839 --> 00:45:12,560
joining us online. So, I want to follow

833
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,960
up on what you were talking about in

834
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:18,079
regards to some of the cost savings

835
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:20,480
found this year, particularly um want to

836
00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:22,800
zero in on vacancies.

837
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:25,440
Um, I understand, you know, we are

838
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,520
saving money this year by holding a

839
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:30,079
position vacant and we've seen a number

840
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:33,599
of vacancies across departments.

841
00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:37,520
What happens next year or the following

842
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:39,920
fiscal year 28? Um, and how does the

843
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,680
city plan for or anticipate that, decide

844
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:44,079
to never fill the position, close it

845
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:46,079
down versus say, "Hey, we realize we

846
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:48,640
actually are having some real service

847
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:50,640
impacts by not having these um these

848
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,000
positions filled." So that's my first

849
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,720
question about vacancies and I have a

850
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,319
couple others.

851
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:58,160
» Great. I think I mean that's a great

852
00:45:54,319 --> 00:46:01,119
question. Um and we

853
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:04,720
I I want to say most budget years there

854
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:06,960
are vacancy savings in several of the

855
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:09,760
larger departments especially um just

856
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:12,079
based on turnover and retention. And I

857
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:14,560
think it's actually kind of a

858
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:16,240
responsible way to do budgeting. Meaning

859
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,520
it doesn't leave money on the table that

860
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:20,000
you know is not going to be needed,

861
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,200
right? Like you know at a certain point

862
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,240
there's going to be enough turnover

863
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:25,520
where you're going to have a month or

864
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:28,079
two of a position of salary savings. Um

865
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,839
I think and I'll you know look to Mary

866
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:31,680
Beth if you want to add anything but I

867
00:46:29,839 --> 00:46:33,920
think what they'll probably need to do

868
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:37,440
what each department will need to do is

869
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:41,040
for fiscal year 28 evaluate if one if

870
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:44,880
the vacancy savings is sustainable. So

871
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:46,880
if the let's hold on for this tight year

872
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,960
is something that is a longer term

873
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,880
thing. I know that's what we'll be doing

874
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:54,079
in our department is evaluating if these

875
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:56,079
vacant positions are truly not needed.

876
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:58,400
Um, and I think that that's where you're

877
00:46:56,079 --> 00:47:00,160
seeing some of the reduction in FTEES

878
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,800
that some departments have decided to

879
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:04,480
make, which is them kind of forecasting.

880
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,280
It's not just about vacancy savings.

881
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:11,040
It's about where did they actually need

882
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:13,839
positions. So, but that's a uh that is

883
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,920
definitely top of mind for

884
00:47:13,839 --> 00:47:17,680
um concerns for the fiscical year 28

885
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:20,000
budget.

886
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,440
» Thank you. Um, and as you can see, I'm

887
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,440
thinking about this budget about

888
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,680
decisions made in the past that bring us

889
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:28,160
to this present moment and recognizing

890
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:30,319
that decisions we make this year affect

891
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,880
future years. And so, I'm really taking

892
00:47:30,319 --> 00:47:36,560
kind of that whole timeline perspective.

893
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:39,119
Um, we've got, you know, we've got a

894
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:41,200
reliance that we've had to use on on our

895
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:43,680
fund balance and that's happened in

896
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:46,079
previous years and we're using it again

897
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:49,920
this year. Next year may not be an

898
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:52,079
option for us. So, I'm curious as we

899
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,720
both find these efficiencies, but

900
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:56,560
there's also a property tax increase,

901
00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:58,720
how can I understand what's going to

902
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,640
happen with our structural deficit in

903
00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:03,680
the next year or two?

904
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:06,319
» I think that um that's where I think we

905
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:08,800
will lean heavily on um the finance

906
00:48:06,319 --> 00:48:12,240
department to look into some of the

907
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:15,359
revenue tools that um we talked about a

908
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:18,240
little bit on Tuesday. the um

909
00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:22,480
transportation utility fee and the venue

910
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:24,720
event tax um parking taxes. Um I think

911
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:28,000
there are still some revenue streams

912
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:30,880
that um that we can look at. I also

913
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,480
think that just to be perfectly candid,

914
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,640
I think that some of these vacancy

915
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:37,280
savings will probably cause departments

916
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:40,960
to reevaluate, you know, how services

917
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:43,200
are deployed. um which may cause entire

918
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,119
shifts. So that what would have been a

919
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:48,160
structural deficit because maybe you

920
00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:51,280
have you know 10 positions to do a job

921
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:52,559
that maybe only takes three is not a

922
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,480
structural deficit because the

923
00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:56,640
department has decided we can do this

924
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:59,920
job with three positions instead of 10.

925
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:01,680
Um I think that to a certain extent

926
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:04,319
there's a structural deficit every year,

927
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:07,839
right? because you have health insurance

928
00:49:04,319 --> 00:49:09,599
costs, uh, inflation with contractual

929
00:49:07,839 --> 00:49:12,559
agreements that departments have with

930
00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:15,359
people. Um, to some extent the pension

931
00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:16,880
system, Utah retirement systems tells us

932
00:49:15,359 --> 00:49:19,040
every year it's sort of like a surprise.

933
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,880
Here's your here's your bill. Um, this

934
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:24,079
year it was better. Uh, but in other

935
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:26,800
years it hasn't been. So, um, to some

936
00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:28,880
extent there's not a there's there's no

937
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:31,359
way to completely avoid a structural

938
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:34,800
deficit. Um, but it's just about how do

939
00:49:31,359 --> 00:49:36,880
you uh how do you manage the size of it?

940
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,920
So,

941
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,480
» Okay,

942
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,200
» Victoria,

943
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,680
» Victoria, it's your turn.

944
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,200
» Thank you. Um, and yeah, Jen, thanks.

945
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:48,079
This is really helpful to have a

946
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:50,400
succinct kind of centralized review like

947
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:54,480
this. Um, I know that some of the things

948
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:58,000
that we need to do carry some political

949
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:59,680
challenges. um fees. I know that, you

950
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,359
know, uh developers who go to

951
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,440
municipalities that are newer than us

952
00:50:01,359 --> 00:50:06,319
pay more in certain fees there than they

953
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:09,119
do here just because we haven't adjusted

954
00:50:06,319 --> 00:50:11,440
our rates or been without the political

955
00:50:09,119 --> 00:50:13,599
pressure to adjust them uh since like

956
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:16,800
the '9s literally. And so if you

957
00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:19,280
incorporated after like 1992 and you

958
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:21,280
have a higher rate than us and so we're

959
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,680
developing a modern city on an

960
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:26,000
antiquated rate scale. Can you maybe

961
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:28,240
help un with understanding this probably

962
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:31,119
isn't a right now thing but maybe like a

963
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:32,960
um a future-looking information. I'd

964
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:34,960
love to know what some of the barriers

965
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,119
are on some of those future revenue

966
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:39,040
things just to prepare. I'm happy to get

967
00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:42,400
into whatever political trench I need to

968
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:44,640
to make sure that the city is in solid

969
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:48,000
financial shape and that we're not going

970
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:51,680
back to our um our residents, especially

971
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:53,520
those who are on um restricted incomes

972
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,440
to ask for more property tax increase.

973
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,280
But I'd love to know just to prepare

974
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,760
myself psychologically, mentally,

975
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,280
politically, socially, you know, for the

976
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,960
for those because it it seems really

977
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:06,160
important that we don't just keep

978
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:07,599
relying on property owners for our

979
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,680
revenue increases.

980
00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:13,040
» That's a that's a really great point and

981
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:16,960
I think um the fees that come to mind

982
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:21,200
that um we maybe are not recouping as

983
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:23,359
much as we could are impact fees. Um, I

984
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:26,640
know that the administration is working

985
00:51:23,359 --> 00:51:30,400
on updating the impact fee study to come

986
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:33,520
up with a, you know, more uh, updated

987
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:35,760
true cost of those impact fees. Um,

988
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,839
public utilities as well charges impact

989
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,680
fees and they haven't um, updated in

990
00:51:37,839 --> 00:51:41,599
several years. And so I think the goal

991
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:44,400
was to bring all of the city's impact

992
00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:46,720
fees back to the council for approval. I

993
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:49,440
can say the last time that the impact

994
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:51,119
fees were reviewed, there was a

995
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:55,200
substantial

996
00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:57,920
um uh political conversation about the

997
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,920
balance of well, we we can't just give

998
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,640
these people a bill, you know, based on

999
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:04,960
I mean, we do a study to say it costs,

1000
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:08,160
you know, X dollars, let's say $2,000.

1001
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:11,280
cost $2,000 per unit that's built in

1002
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:13,200
order to fund the needs that are going

1003
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:16,079
to happen as a result of that additional

1004
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:18,400
unit. Um there's a calculation that

1005
00:52:16,079 --> 00:52:21,440
happens after the sort of objective

1006
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:23,920
calculation which is does that mean that

1007
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:26,160
we're stalling development in our city?

1008
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,440
And if we charge $2,000, are we going to

1009
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,599
kill development in our city? And

1010
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,440
sometimes the answer is no. Or sometimes

1011
00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:33,200
the answer is we might kill development.

1012
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,559
And so instead of charging 2,000, the

1013
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:37,760
council could decide to say we're going

1014
00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:39,599
to charge 1,500. Um, and so that was

1015
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:42,400
that was kind of the conversation the

1016
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:43,680
last time the impact fee study um was

1017
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,960
brought to the council. And I wouldn't

1018
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,200
be surprised if it's a similar

1019
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,720
calculation. Now, there's a lot of

1020
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,960
competition with even neighboring

1021
00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:53,119
cities, right, to say, do we want

1022
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,800
housing built in our city or in

1023
00:52:53,119 --> 00:52:57,280
neighboring city where maybe impact fees

1024
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:59,520
are cheaper. Um, so there's that. The

1025
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,280
other um I think tricky one to be

1026
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,040
perfectly honest in our city is going to

1027
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:07,200
be the transportation utility fee

1028
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:09,359
because um two of our major nonprofit

1029
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:12,400
um partners in the city, the university

1030
00:53:09,359 --> 00:53:15,520
and the LDS church will probably see a

1031
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:17,359
pretty significant change in how they're

1032
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,680
interacting with the city in terms of

1033
00:53:17,359 --> 00:53:21,200
dollars. And so that's probably a

1034
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:24,240
conversation that will have to happen on

1035
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:26,400
a political level as well in order to um

1036
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:28,880
realize that money. But I think that

1037
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:33,720
will be happening over the next year. So

1038
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:33,720
that's a in a couple months problem.

1039
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:39,119
» Okay.

1040
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:41,119
Thank you for the questions everyone. Um

1041
00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:44,240
thank you so much Jennifer for for the

1042
00:53:41,119 --> 00:53:47,200
overview uh and and uh for helping us

1043
00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:48,720
understand this these budgets uh for

1044
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,280
this year and how we're going to

1045
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:54,000
approach the discussion. Um, moving on

1046
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:56,480
to uh item number two, which is fiscal

1047
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:58,240
year 2026 2027

1048
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,000
budget discussion for the police

1049
00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:02,160
department. We're going to welcome at

1050
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:05,599
the table Michael Sanders, council

1051
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:08,319
policy analyst, chief Brian Reid, SLC

1052
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:11,960
police chief, uh, and Shelley Dietrich,

1053
00:54:08,319 --> 00:54:11,960
uh, financial manager.

1054
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:23,440
» Great. Thank you, chair. Um, so the FY27

1055
00:54:21,359 --> 00:54:27,040
Police Department budget is proposed to

1056
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:29,359
be approximately $142 million, which is

1057
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:33,440
an increase of a little over $7 million

1058
00:54:29,359 --> 00:54:36,880
or 5.24% from last year. This budget

1059
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:38,880
continues funding for 13 FTEEs, which

1060
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:41,040
would be funded by the Utah Inland Port

1061
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,800
Authority proposed under budget

1062
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:45,680
amendment number five, which is actually

1063
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:48,319
currently under consideration.

1064
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:51,440
Additionally, it proposes adding four

1065
00:54:48,319 --> 00:54:53,520
other FTEEs with this budget proposal.

1066
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,520
None of the proposals from the police

1067
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,880
department budget will rely on the

1068
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:59,680
property tax increase, which we

1069
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:01,359
discussed. Um, assuming all FTEEs are

1070
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:06,400
approved, the police department would

1071
00:55:01,359 --> 00:55:08,559
have staff of 797 positions, 63 623

1072
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:11,760
would be sworn officers, and there'd be

1073
00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:13,760
154 civilian staff. Notable items from

1074
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,680
the budget include funding for the real

1075
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,599
time crime center and drone as a first

1076
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:21,000
responder programs

1077
00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:21,000
» And additionally

1078
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,880
» And additionally the social worker

1079
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,000
program and mental health responders

1080
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,680
have been moved from the non-EP

1081
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:30,079
department the non-EP departmental

1082
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:32,480
budget and into the police department

1083
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:36,000
based budget. With that, I'll yield the

1084
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:37,920
floor to Chief Red.

1085
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,760
» Let me give that. Sorry. First of all, I

1086
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,280
want to thank uh Michael for all of his

1087
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,960
support and help uh through this

1088
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:45,680
process. So, thank you. I want to thank

1089
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:47,760
the council executive director Bruno and

1090
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:50,079
not just for this, but just I've called

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00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,760
her quite often and then Mayor Menhal

1092
00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:55,359
for the the support in this budget as

1093
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:57,200
well. Um I we I just want to start off

1094
00:55:55,359 --> 00:55:59,680
by saying that our our police department

1095
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:02,559
feels very supported by the council over

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00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:04,559
this past year and uh we have some

1097
00:56:02,559 --> 00:56:06,319
indicators that are showing our morale

1098
00:56:04,559 --> 00:56:07,920
is is is up in the in the police

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00:56:06,319 --> 00:56:10,799
department and we want to keep that

1100
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:13,040
momentum going. Uh we really emphasize

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00:56:10,799 --> 00:56:15,040
being a learning organization. So when

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00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,799
mistakes are made, we sit down as a

1103
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,200
team. We don't point fingers. We learn

1104
00:56:16,799 --> 00:56:20,319
and we improve. And so that's a posture

1105
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,400
that we want to take in the police

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00:56:20,319 --> 00:56:25,119
department. And and the value in that is

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00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,720
that uh people are making decisions and

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00:56:25,119 --> 00:56:28,640
learning and and we're becoming a

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00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:30,240
stronger organization.

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00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:33,720
Um

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00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:33,720
uh next slide.

1112
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:41,359
Uh next slide.

1113
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:43,680
Uh just a couple accomplishments that I

1114
00:56:41,359 --> 00:56:46,799
want to highlight. This year uh you we

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00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:48,799
we started a or we put together a new

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00:56:46,799 --> 00:56:51,119
mission vision values. This is was an

1117
00:56:48,799 --> 00:56:53,520
exercise that we did with our police

1118
00:56:51,119 --> 00:56:55,440
officers and professional staff. Uh this

1119
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,880
this exercise and our new mission,

1120
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,799
vision, values has really aligned our

1121
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:01,599
organization and kind of put us all on

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00:56:58,799 --> 00:57:03,760
the same page. And as I mentioned, being

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00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:05,440
able to push decision-m down to lower

1124
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,760
levels because we're all aligned has

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00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:09,359
been very valuable. We are currently

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00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,040
fully staffed. Now, all of those

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00:57:09,359 --> 00:57:13,520
officers are not going to be deployed

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00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,359
until uh November, December time frame,

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00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,440
but we are currently fully staffed and

1130
00:57:15,359 --> 00:57:20,079
excited about that. and we're starting

1131
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:21,839
to see the impacts of those those

1132
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:24,000
officers as they come out onto the to

1133
00:57:21,839 --> 00:57:27,280
the street and and uh if I go to the

1134
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:29,839
next accomplishment uh we we we saw an

1135
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:32,799
overall decrease in crime last calendar

1136
00:57:29,839 --> 00:57:35,040
year to date this year we're down it's

1137
00:57:32,799 --> 00:57:36,880
actually 21% I checked with our data

1138
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:39,520
people today year to date compared to

1139
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:42,319
the same time period last year uh this

1140
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:44,319
includes violent crime going down um so

1141
00:57:42,319 --> 00:57:45,920
we're we're having some some great

1142
00:57:44,319 --> 00:57:48,799
successes there our officers are out

1143
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:50,319
working very hard. Uh I will also in and

1144
00:57:48,799 --> 00:57:52,880
I don't have it in here, but our call

1145
00:57:50,319 --> 00:57:54,319
response times are are are also dropping

1146
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,640
over the past year and we're seeing

1147
00:57:54,319 --> 00:57:58,640
improvements there as well. So ju

1148
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,960
generally the the goal of this of this

1149
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:03,839
budget and these budget requests are to

1150
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:06,960
help us continue to bring crime down um

1151
00:58:03,839 --> 00:58:09,760
improve call response times um which

1152
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:11,839
will then allow us over time to reinvest

1153
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:14,319
our officers time into community

1154
00:58:11,839 --> 00:58:15,680
engagement, traffic safety, which is a

1155
00:58:14,319 --> 00:58:18,480
problem in the city. we're having too

1156
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:20,559
many uh fatalities around traffic safety

1157
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,559
and then also investing more in our

1158
00:58:20,559 --> 00:58:24,960
youth to get in on the front end so we

1159
00:58:22,559 --> 00:58:30,480
have less issues uh down the road with

1160
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:32,319
these these youth. Uh next slide.

1161
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,760
When we talk about efficiencies, we're

1162
00:58:32,319 --> 00:58:36,400
still kind of in the process of writing

1163
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:38,400
our strategic plan and and getting some

1164
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:41,200
key metrics in place so we can see

1165
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:42,630
efficiencies uh improving. Uh one of the

1166
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,319
big ones is we're working on 12-hour

1167
00:58:42,630 --> 00:58:46,400
[clears throat] shifts. Uh we think

1168
00:58:44,319 --> 00:58:48,480
that's going to improve staffing ac

1169
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,240
across the city and put officers in out

1170
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,480
on the streets in the time at the times

1171
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:54,240
we need them the most. Uh we're working

1172
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,000
closely with the union and the city on

1173
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:58,880
this uh to make sure we we're we're

1174
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:02,400
thoughtful in in some of these u changes

1175
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:03,760
around shift shift shift allocation. Um

1176
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,440
we're also working on a number of

1177
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,799
efficiencies. Uh we'll talk about

1178
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,280
overtime later, but we have brought

1179
00:59:06,799 --> 00:59:11,599
overtime costs down this past fiscal

1180
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,839
year and we anticipate and our requests

1181
00:59:11,599 --> 00:59:15,520
will reflect a a continued decrease in

1182
00:59:13,839 --> 00:59:18,960
overtime as we get more fully staffed

1183
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:20,880
and become more efficient. Um and then

1184
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,880
we're we're going to talk a lot about in

1185
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,799
our budget today the our real-time crime

1186
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:27,200
center and expanding our drone first

1187
00:59:24,799 --> 00:59:29,200
responder program. This is an alternate

1188
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,359
response and we're finding that we don't

1189
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:34,000
have to send officers to a number of

1190
00:59:31,359 --> 00:59:35,920
calls when we send the drones. Uh or we

1191
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:39,440
give officers better information and

1192
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:41,200
improved response. Uh maybe a case where

1193
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,440
we don't have to send an officer at all,

1194
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:45,280
but it may be a social worker. And so

1195
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,200
we're finding some efficiencies there.

1196
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,799
Uh which is great. And then the last

1197
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,960
thing that I'll mention is we've worked

1198
00:59:48,799 --> 00:59:53,200
really hard with our partners uh across

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00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:55,920
the social services and criminal justice

1200
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:57,200
system. And for instance, in the real

1201
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,720
time crime center, we're we're

1202
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,400
partnering with the University of Utah

1203
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,160
and the Utah Transit Authority. They're

1204
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,240
providing resources so that we don't

1205
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:06,960
have to come to you and ask for that. Uh

1206
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:08,640
we're working closely with DPS and DNR

1207
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,920
uh Department of Natural Resources on

1208
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,920
the Jordan River and they're putting a

1209
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:15,359
lot of resources into our city and

1210
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:17,440
helping out there. And then uh of course

1211
01:00:15,359 --> 01:00:18,960
you mentioned the Inland Port Authority

1212
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,880
who's putting a significant investment

1213
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:26,520
into our police department all saving

1214
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:26,520
the Salt Lake City taxpayer. Next slide.

1215
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:31,359
Uh Michael mentioned our overall budget.

1216
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,119
You can see a breakdown and you can see

1217
01:00:31,359 --> 01:00:36,480
the mayor's recommended budget request

1218
01:00:33,119 --> 01:00:37,839
of of 7 million with the 17 FTEES. 13 of

1219
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,319
those being the Inland Port. If you want

1220
01:00:37,839 --> 01:00:41,760
to go to the next slide and you can see

1221
01:00:40,319 --> 01:00:46,000
most of our budget is made up of

1222
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:47,200
personnel. [snorts] Um, so, uh, we're

1223
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,200
really really excited that the Inland

1224
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:51,119
Port Authority invested, uh, into the

1225
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,640
police department and we'll have 12

1226
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:54,640
additional officers and an evidence

1227
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,000
technician which will help us in the

1228
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,200
northwest quadrant with some of the

1229
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,960
challenges that we're having out there

1230
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,200
and in our on the west side of Salt Lake

1231
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,720
City. So, we're we're excited for that.

1232
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,200
I wanted to just to briefly mention

1233
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:08,160
fleet. Uh, last year the council, the

1234
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,760
mayor's office supported a number of an

1235
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,920
in a pretty good investment into our

1236
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:15,280
fleet. We still have a long way to go

1237
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:16,640
with our fleet and we in certain cases

1238
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,559
we have several cars that are past

1239
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,960
service life that need to be re re uh

1240
01:01:18,559 --> 01:01:22,480
replaced and in certain cases we're

1241
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:25,520
actually investing more in maintenance

1242
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:27,359
and repairs than the car is worth. So

1243
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:31,200
we're just asking for continued support

1244
01:01:27,359 --> 01:01:34,240
and investing in our mainten

1245
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:36,160
with uh the situation that we're in. It

1246
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:38,720
is a public safety risk, but also it's a

1247
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:40,240
recruiting retention tool. I mean, when

1248
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:42,400
officers do care about the cars that

1249
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:44,720
they're driving and so uh that's their

1250
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,319
office and and so when we we compete for

1251
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,680
the best officers in the state, our

1252
01:01:46,319 --> 01:01:50,000
officers are constantly looking at

1253
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:52,319
salary, equipment, training, development

1254
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:54,480
opportunities, support from elected

1255
01:01:52,319 --> 01:01:57,440
officials. So, it's important. Next

1256
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:59,200
slide.

1257
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,720
Uh these are the key changes in the

1258
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:03,040
budget which is in the budget book.

1259
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:04,880
We'll go over these one uh one at a time

1260
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:07,119
and feel free to ask questions along the

1261
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:10,079
way. Uh we if you want to go to the next

1262
01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:11,839
slide, we can just get right into it.

1263
01:02:10,079 --> 01:02:15,119
The school district approached us last

1264
01:02:11,839 --> 01:02:16,640
year and requested two additional uh

1265
01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:20,480
school resource officers for the

1266
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:23,280
district. Uh this is uh that request. Uh

1267
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:24,960
the the thing to note here is half of

1268
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,400
the funding will come from the school

1269
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,520
district. So even though it shows this

1270
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,680
amount, half of that will be in

1271
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:32,000
reimbursed back to the police department

1272
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:34,160
for those two FTEEs. We're working with

1273
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,760
the school district on ensuring that our

1274
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,680
school resource officers and they're

1275
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,359
doing an amazing job by the way, but

1276
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,119
they're investing in individuals,

1277
01:02:39,359 --> 01:02:42,559
particularly kids who are at risk. And

1278
01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:44,240
so, a lot of what we're doing, we're

1279
01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:46,000
kind of retooling how we use our school

1280
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,359
resource officers, working closely with

1281
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,520
the district, and we're we're seeing

1282
01:02:47,359 --> 01:02:51,440
some amazing outcomes. And you'll see

1283
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,799
here in the coming weeks an amazing

1284
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,880
story from one one of our school

1285
01:02:52,799 --> 01:02:56,319
resource officers and how they invested

1286
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:59,520
in some youth, and we're excited for

1287
01:02:56,319 --> 01:03:00,640
that to come out soon. Any questions on

1288
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,799
that one or should we just keep going

1289
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:05,200
and you'll interrupt if

1290
01:03:02,799 --> 01:03:08,160
» Chief? Oh yeah, go ahead. Go ahead.

1291
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:09,839
» Uh so so I on the school resource

1292
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,440
officer's request from the school

1293
01:03:09,839 --> 01:03:14,000
district.

1294
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:16,079
My understanding was that they we split

1295
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:18,640
them with the school district. We split

1296
01:03:16,079 --> 01:03:20,240
the cost with them. So is this the half

1297
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,960
the cost of for two?

1298
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:24,559
» This is the full cost. Half of that will

1299
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,200
be reimbursed back to our budget mention

1300
01:03:24,559 --> 01:03:26,559
at the end that

1301
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,240
» We just have to get approval from you to

1302
01:03:26,559 --> 01:03:30,160
get the to get the full amount and then

1303
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,440
it'll it will be reimbured. So that will

1304
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,280
be cut in half.

1305
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:35,039
» Okay. And what happens? So in the budget

1306
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:37,119
with this

1307
01:03:35,039 --> 01:03:41,599
you know

1308
01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:43,200
$25,000 is that going goes back to to

1309
01:03:41,599 --> 01:03:44,079
the general fund or it stays within

1310
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,680
» The personnel

1311
01:03:44,079 --> 01:03:48,079
» Revenue the general fund.

1312
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,440
» Okay. Okay. Thank you. Do you have

1313
01:03:48,079 --> 01:03:51,760
» Yeah. cuz we're doing

1314
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:54,400
» And chief I wasn't quite sure would was

1315
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:57,680
the uh because we had the the SRO

1316
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:59,920
discussion at the state level and then

1317
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,760
we had at the schoolboard level. Uh was

1318
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:04,079
this a state mandate that we increase

1319
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:06,559
the SRO or this just come from the

1320
01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:08,720
school districts or was it like a highly

1321
01:04:06,559 --> 01:04:10,480
recommended from the state level or do

1322
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:13,280
you remember? So, so the this the the

1323
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:16,319
the legislature passed a bill that

1324
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:18,640
requires schools uh to to have a

1325
01:04:16,319 --> 01:04:21,119
guardian, private security or a school

1326
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:23,440
resource officer. So, the schools can

1327
01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:25,280
determine how that breakdown is. So, I

1328
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:27,200
think part of this is affected by that.

1329
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:29,599
Um it's the school district's request

1330
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:32,559
and they and they they they in in

1331
01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:34,480
talking to uh the superintendent, they

1332
01:04:32,559 --> 01:04:36,480
prefer school resource officers to

1333
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:38,559
private security or guardians. So

1334
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:40,559
» Yeah, that that decision I'm totally

1335
01:04:38,559 --> 01:04:44,640
supportive. I just My question really

1336
01:04:40,559 --> 01:04:46,559
was more is like it was a a these are

1337
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,760
the three ways you can do this but we're

1338
01:04:46,559 --> 01:04:52,000
not going to give you any funding either

1339
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:53,359
for it. It was mandated but not funded.

1340
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,839
I shouldn't say if it was mandated

1341
01:04:53,359 --> 01:04:55,440
that's right.

1342
01:04:53,839 --> 01:04:57,039
» Yeah. I think I I think that the

1343
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,400
requirement was put in place and I don't

1344
01:04:57,039 --> 01:04:59,680
know what type of funding was provided

1345
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,319
» But they didn't provide any funding for

1346
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,000
that.

1347
01:05:00,319 --> 01:05:04,000
» I I I would think I think school

1348
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,599
districts would say not enough but okay.

1349
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,280
I don't know for sure what funding was

1350
01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:11,079
provided to school districts.

1351
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:11,079
» Okay, thank you.

1352
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:18,640
» Okay, sorry. Next slide.

1353
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:20,640
» Uh the next the next request is one FTE

1354
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:22,720
for a drone pilot. This is an officer

1355
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:25,119
position. Uh you know, we're going to

1356
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:26,480
talk more about the the drone our our

1357
01:05:25,119 --> 01:05:28,880
real-time crime center as we go through

1358
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:30,480
this presentation today. Um, I think the

1359
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:33,200
main point that I would just make on

1360
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,880
this drone pilot, um, we're doing

1361
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:37,119
everything we can to find internal

1362
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:39,200
resources. So, we've we've reallocated

1363
01:05:37,119 --> 01:05:40,640
internally to add positions to our

1364
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,400
real-time crime center. As I mentioned,

1365
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:44,640
the University of Utah and UTA are

1366
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:46,720
committing some resources. Uh, but this

1367
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:49,440
will be a drone pilot that will help us

1368
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:51,760
uh get get off of the ground. um these

1369
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:54,400
drones are arriving at to calls in 1 to

1370
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:56,480
two minutes where officers are taking

1371
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:58,720
depending on the call anywhere from six

1372
01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:00,480
and a half up to 15 minutes. And so a

1373
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:02,240
lot of cases are being cleared by these

1374
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:05,359
drones. So we just think this alternate

1375
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:06,799
response is a is a real investment in in

1376
01:06:05,359 --> 01:06:09,440
getting call response times down,

1377
01:06:06,799 --> 01:06:12,720
getting better information to our

1378
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:14,960
officers. Um I would also add that that

1379
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:16,400
we we deploy for the fire department. So

1380
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,559
that's another efficiency that we're

1381
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:21,520
finding that that we we deploy on fire

1382
01:06:18,559 --> 01:06:22,960
calls uh fires in the hills or in in

1383
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:25,359
buildings and and to give them that

1384
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:30,280
overview. So um this that's what this

1385
01:06:25,359 --> 01:06:30,280
request is. Uh next slide.

1386
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:34,400
This next uh request is related to our

1387
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:38,480
real-time crime center. This individual

1388
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:40,319
will be an analyst uh who will uh work

1389
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:42,319
within the real-time crime center. One

1390
01:06:40,319 --> 01:06:46,000
of the main focuses of this an analyst

1391
01:06:42,319 --> 01:06:47,359
will be threat management. Uh you know

1392
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,799
in this day and age there's a lot of

1393
01:06:47,359 --> 01:06:50,880
threats coming in to the police

1394
01:06:48,799 --> 01:06:53,119
department. We have to assess those

1395
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:55,200
threats. We have to research and do do

1396
01:06:53,119 --> 01:06:57,599
background work on those. This uh this

1397
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:59,440
analyst will do all of that provide for

1398
01:06:57,599 --> 01:07:00,880
event research. Uh you know we have a

1399
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,880
lot of events in the community and so

1400
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:05,039
that this analyst will pro will support

1401
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:08,000
all of those efforts.

1402
01:07:05,039 --> 01:07:09,599
Next slide.

1403
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:12,240
Uh

1404
01:07:09,599 --> 01:07:15,200
coming back to the overtime just to give

1405
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:19,680
some background. So we're projecting

1406
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:21,599
overtime costs for FY27 at $6.5 million.

1407
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:24,720
This would represent almost a 10%

1408
01:07:21,599 --> 01:07:27,200
decrease from FY26.

1409
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:29,839
And if you go back to FY25, we were at

1410
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:32,160
8.2 million. So this fiscal year, we've

1411
01:07:29,839 --> 01:07:34,240
been able to reduce overtime by almost

1412
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:37,839
13% and we're projecting to get that

1413
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:40,240
down another 10%. Uh so this request of

1414
01:07:37,839 --> 01:07:42,640
1.7 million represents that 10%

1415
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:44,240
decrease. Uh we will always have

1416
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:46,720
overtime in the department. We're

1417
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:48,319
requesting this one time because we want

1418
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:50,559
to see what we're going to be able to do

1419
01:07:48,319 --> 01:07:52,960
this year with alternate response with

1420
01:07:50,559 --> 01:07:54,640
becoming more fully staffed and we think

1421
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,559
maybe hopefully we can even get it down

1422
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,480
more. But we're requesting one time just

1423
01:07:56,559 --> 01:08:00,400
to make sure we have the overtime as we

1424
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:02,960
get our officers trained and and put out

1425
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:05,520
into the field.

1426
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:07,760
» Go ahead. kind of like along the lines

1427
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:11,520
of the uh overtime side of the house.

1428
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:15,200
You know, we get a lot of we you get a

1429
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:17,199
lot of uh requests and and uh

1430
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,560
from the University of Utah for all the

1431
01:08:17,199 --> 01:08:22,159
events that they have at the at the

1432
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:24,640
stadium and other places and are is it a

1433
01:08:22,159 --> 01:08:26,799
uh are we being fully paid for all our

1434
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,719
services that we provide the at the

1435
01:08:26,799 --> 01:08:30,799
university level? And is that a separate

1436
01:08:28,719 --> 01:08:32,960
contract or how does that work? because

1437
01:08:30,799 --> 01:08:34,480
it seems like we we have to deploy a lot

1438
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:36,319
of officers for a lot of those things

1439
01:08:34,480 --> 01:08:38,239
and it and it's got to be mostly

1440
01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:38,560
overtime because it's uh

1441
01:08:38,239 --> 01:08:41,759
» Yes,

1442
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:44,319
» They're not uh so all of the University

1443
01:08:41,759 --> 01:08:47,520
of Utah sporting events are reimbursed

1444
01:08:44,319 --> 01:08:49,520
by the University of Utah. Uh Greek Row,

1445
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:51,920
they reimburse for our officers to work

1446
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:53,440
overtime shifts on Greek Row as I

1447
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,960
mentioned with the Realtime Crime

1448
01:08:53,440 --> 01:08:57,359
Center. They're they're putting uh

1449
01:08:54,960 --> 01:09:01,120
personnel and and and helping us invest

1450
01:08:57,359 --> 01:09:03,279
in in that as well. And then uh our

1451
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:05,120
public order unit, they're they're going

1452
01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:06,719
to be putting officers on our public

1453
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,920
order unit. So I I feel like we have a

1454
01:09:06,719 --> 01:09:10,239
really strong partnership with the

1455
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:12,719
University of Utah and and I'm I'm sure

1456
01:09:10,239 --> 01:09:15,040
if there's any concerns, we could go to

1457
01:09:12,719 --> 01:09:17,120
them and and but I I feel like it's a

1458
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,640
pretty fair relationship that we have

1459
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,880
going. Most most of the overtime is

1460
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:23,520
reimbured.

1461
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:26,719
» Council Petro,

1462
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:29,120
» Thank you. When we say overtime, is this

1463
01:09:26,719 --> 01:09:31,359
the overtime that covers the basic

1464
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:33,359
functionality of the city? Are officers

1465
01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:35,040
still will have the opportunity to do

1466
01:09:33,359 --> 01:09:36,960
overtime

1467
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,960
um when community entities are asking

1468
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:42,719
and paying for that? Is that accurate or

1469
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:44,719
are we discontinuing that as well?

1470
01:09:42,719 --> 01:09:46,000
» Oh boy. Could you I'm sorry, council

1471
01:09:44,719 --> 01:09:47,440
member, can you maybe just ask that

1472
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,880
question one more time? It's a little

1473
01:09:47,440 --> 01:09:53,199
hard to understand. Oh, [clears throat]

1474
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:56,239
» You sorry. Um, so the when you say

1475
01:09:53,199 --> 01:09:59,440
overtime and what we're paying for here,

1476
01:09:56,239 --> 01:10:02,320
that's the overtime that covers

1477
01:09:59,440 --> 01:10:04,960
functionality within the city. That is

1478
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:08,320
when we've been understaffed, people

1479
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:10,960
taking extra shifts to make sure that

1480
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:13,360
the city doesn't lag behind. But the

1481
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:16,640
overtime where entities in the community

1482
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:18,800
pay for our officers to do either

1483
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:20,400
special events or some ongoing security,

1484
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:24,080
those sorts of things, that sort of

1485
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:26,000
overtime still stays. Is that correct?

1486
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,760
» Yeah. So, we have like the Delta Center

1487
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,960
who reimburses us, City Creek who

1488
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:31,280
reimburses us. So, we have a lot of

1489
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,880
contractual overtime that's reimbursed.

1490
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,480
I think this amount, and Shelley can

1491
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:36,400
correct me if I'm wrong, represents the

1492
01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:39,679
overtime that we expend for mitigation

1493
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:41,120
shifts, for overtime for demonstrations

1494
01:10:39,679 --> 01:10:44,480
for instance. Those are very expensive

1495
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:46,480
for us. Um, and just regular overtime

1496
01:10:44,480 --> 01:10:48,800
for callouts for our investigations

1497
01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:51,040
division, our our special operations

1498
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:52,880
division for just normal operations.

1499
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:54,640
» It does include special events, but

1500
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:57,520
those are reimbursed as part of the

1501
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:59,679
special event process.

1502
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:03,520
» Thank you so much for the clarification.

1503
01:10:59,679 --> 01:11:06,640
Thank you. Other

1504
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:10,239
questions on this request?

1505
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:12,800
Okay, we'll go to the next

1506
01:11:10,239 --> 01:11:14,800
slide. Okay, so this is actually a

1507
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:17,920
reduction, a onetime reduction. We're

1508
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:20,239
currently holding open eight vacancies.

1509
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:21,679
These are these are these vacancies are

1510
01:11:20,239 --> 01:11:24,719
within our professional staff, our

1511
01:11:21,679 --> 01:11:26,800
civilian staff, which goes across

1512
01:11:24,719 --> 01:11:28,880
basically all of those divisions. Um, I

1513
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,880
just want to say our personal our

1514
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:32,239
professional staff do an amazing job in

1515
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,640
the department sometimes in the

1516
01:11:32,239 --> 01:11:36,080
background. We don't we don't see their

1517
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:38,560
work as much, but our police department

1518
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:40,800
could not operate without them. So, this

1519
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:42,320
is quite a sacrifice on on our

1520
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,760
professional staff to to hold these

1521
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,360
vacancies open, but we're committed to

1522
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:47,120
doing that. And and as as you mentioned

1523
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:49,360
earlier, executive director Bruno will

1524
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:52,080
evaluate through the year to see what we

1525
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:55,199
can do on the on the long term here. Um,

1526
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:56,719
but it is it is definitely a sacrifice

1527
01:11:55,199 --> 01:11:59,440
for our professional staff to do this.

1528
01:11:56,719 --> 01:12:01,199
We appreciate them

1529
01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:02,719
and and the positions may vary through

1530
01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:04,719
the year, but we'll we're committed to

1531
01:12:02,719 --> 01:12:06,640
holding open funding for at least that

1532
01:12:04,719 --> 01:12:09,040
amount. And if we can do more, you know,

1533
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:13,800
we would do more. We'll have to evaluate

1534
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:13,800
as the year goes on. Next slide.

1535
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:19,199
Uh this next request is uh nearly

1536
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:21,040
$400,000

1537
01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:24,800
uh for our real-time crime center

1538
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:29,280
technology. This is uh for cameras,

1539
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:31,199
drones, uh our LPRs, replacements. Um

1540
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:33,760
what we're trying to accomplish here is

1541
01:12:31,199 --> 01:12:35,520
to get kind of on a 5-year rotation. So

1542
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:37,520
some of this the funding will will go to

1543
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:39,040
new tech, new cameras. You know, we pull

1544
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,880
trailer cameras and we get requests

1545
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,960
constantly to put put a trailer camera

1546
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:45,440
here or a trailer camera there or a pole

1547
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:47,760
camera in the city. So, this is allowing

1548
01:12:45,440 --> 01:12:51,440
us to increase the number of cameras um

1549
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:53,760
but also replace equipment as it ages.

1550
01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:55,920
So, that's what this request is.

1551
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:58,719
» Yeah. Councilman Eric Carson,

1552
01:12:55,920 --> 01:13:01,520
» Do you have a sense of the breakdown of

1553
01:12:58,719 --> 01:13:04,239
what is a replacement of existing

1554
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:05,440
equipment versus purchasing of new

1555
01:13:04,239 --> 01:13:08,239
equipment

1556
01:13:05,440 --> 01:13:11,760
» On a percentage basis? Um, I do have a

1557
01:13:08,239 --> 01:13:13,120
slide or a slide here. Yeah, here it is.

1558
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,600
Thank you. I had it on text, but here it

1559
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:18,400
is. Um,

1560
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:20,480
here we're requesting about 15. Let's

1561
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:22,000
see. 15. I'm just going to look at a

1562
01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:24,719
percentage basis and we can get this

1563
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:27,840
this detail to you. I would say it's

1564
01:13:24,719 --> 01:13:30,000
about it's a little it's probably a 5050

1565
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,840
or 6040 split between new and

1566
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:34,480
replacement.

1567
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:36,640
» 60% new, 40% replacement.

1568
01:13:34,480 --> 01:13:38,000
» Um I mean without doing the math on the

1569
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,760
spot here, I can get you the the

1570
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,960
specific, but but I I think it's it's a

1571
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,239
little of both. We're trying to kind of

1572
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:42,800
hit hit it in the middle there.

1573
01:13:42,239 --> 01:13:44,719
» Thank you.

1574
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:46,960
» But I can get you specific details. We

1575
01:13:44,719 --> 01:13:48,480
can work on that.

1576
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,640
» Council member Dugan.

1577
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:51,920
» Yeah. We had this discussion before on

1578
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,280
the grant funding and stuff like that,

1579
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,760
the contracts we have with the the

1580
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:58,159
cameras and the other uh surveillance

1581
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:59,520
stuff and do we have contracts with the

1582
01:13:58,159 --> 01:14:01,360
the Flock group?

1583
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,960
» We have no contracts with Flock.

1584
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:05,199
» Okay. Just appreciate that. I I think

1585
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:07,120
we've already discussed it before, but I

1586
01:14:05,199 --> 01:14:07,920
» That came up again. So, thank you very

1587
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:10,320
much.

1588
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:13,199
» And oh, I want to do back on the

1589
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:15,440
replacement. So, this is these

1590
01:14:13,199 --> 01:14:16,800
replacements. We're going to we're

1591
01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:18,880
always going to be replacing new ones

1592
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,400
and old ones. Is it is it like a cycle

1593
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:22,080
right now the city has cycles on the

1594
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,600
computers it's whatever it is three

1595
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,440
years or something like that is that the

1596
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:27,440
same thing where they have about a

1597
01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:28,880
lifetime of

1598
01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:29,280
three years two years something of that

1599
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,040
nature

1600
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,480
» I mean techn is changing fast but you

1601
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:35,440
know I think on average we're thinking

1602
01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:37,199
about a about a 5year rotation um give

1603
01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:38,080
or take you know give or take give or

1604
01:14:37,199 --> 01:14:40,239
take and

1605
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:42,239
» And again um we know it's a tough budget

1606
01:14:40,239 --> 01:14:43,920
year like if if this has to be one time

1607
01:14:42,239 --> 01:14:46,159
you know that's we understand whatever

1608
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,600
we can do to to be a team player you

1609
01:14:46,159 --> 01:14:49,440
know we'll do that But yeah, we're

1610
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:51,280
trying to get on an on we want the

1611
01:14:49,440 --> 01:14:53,840
ongoing funding so we can just have a

1612
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:57,679
replacement. Uh we'll grow it some, but

1613
01:14:53,840 --> 01:15:01,040
we'll mostly it's for replacement.

1614
01:14:57,679 --> 01:15:02,960
» Uh Chief, the in the past I I learned uh

1615
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:04,880
about moving these cameras, the trailer

1616
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:10,159
cameras and installing the pole cameras

1617
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:12,480
was challenging. Um so are we trying to

1618
01:15:10,159 --> 01:15:15,440
find a way what is the system that we

1619
01:15:12,480 --> 01:15:19,120
have right now to move them faster or

1620
01:15:15,440 --> 01:15:22,239
install them faster and uh because we

1621
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:23,600
may have even more um so that's even you

1622
01:15:22,239 --> 01:15:25,520
know more complication.

1623
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,800
» Yeah. Right now we have officers that

1624
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,640
are doing that and one of the things

1625
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:30,640
that we're looking at is is is that the

1626
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:32,400
best model or should we use our civilian

1627
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:34,800
response team and that's kind of I think

1628
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:36,239
what we're looking at to so we use you

1629
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:38,239
know our officer resources more

1630
01:15:36,239 --> 01:15:40,719
effectively and so I think we're trying

1631
01:15:38,239 --> 01:15:44,400
to look at a model of of moving toward a

1632
01:15:40,719 --> 01:15:46,159
maybe a civilian uh based you know team

1633
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,840
that could do something like that and we

1634
01:15:46,159 --> 01:15:48,800
may have internal resources just to kind

1635
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:51,120
of work on that.

1636
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:55,280
» Okay. Uh and a follow-up question

1637
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:58,239
regarding this item. Um and are

1638
01:15:55,280 --> 01:16:00,080
there uh license plate readers in within

1639
01:15:58,239 --> 01:16:00,719
this budget line item too?

1640
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:01,679
» There are.

1641
01:16:00,719 --> 01:16:03,600
» There are. Okay.

1642
01:16:01,679 --> 01:16:05,280
» Yeah. And and and and many of them are

1643
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,560
for replacement. We can also work with

1644
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,560
you on what what you're comfortable

1645
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:11,600
with. But yeah, there's there are

1646
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:16,400
license plate reader uh in in there.

1647
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:18,640
» Yeah. Any other questions? I I see Chris

1648
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:21,199
Chris Wharton.

1649
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:22,880
Um, hi Chief. Thank you for the

1650
01:16:21,199 --> 01:16:25,679
presentation and thank you for talking

1651
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:27,600
about um the

1652
01:16:25,679 --> 01:16:30,560
um work that we do with the University

1653
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:33,840
of Utah um police department for Greek

1654
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:36,320
Greek row. I think um I put in a request

1655
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:38,960
to to meet and talk about that because I

1656
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:41,920
think there are some opportunities for

1657
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:46,159
more efficiency there um and talking

1658
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:47,679
with um the dean of students. Um but so

1659
01:16:46,159 --> 01:16:49,679
I just wanted to highlight that and say

1660
01:16:47,679 --> 01:16:51,120
that I'm interested in in hearing more

1661
01:16:49,679 --> 01:16:52,960
about that and we can have a separate

1662
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:54,880
meeting.

1663
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:59,120
Um the other thing I wanted to ask about

1664
01:16:54,880 --> 01:17:03,199
is just that um from my from my

1665
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:07,280
residents um I have heard a lot of

1666
01:17:03,199 --> 01:17:09,920
really positive feedback um about um our

1667
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:13,199
officers and about the department being

1668
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:17,120
um more responsive to um kind of

1669
01:17:13,199 --> 01:17:22,080
neighborhood issues um just a presence

1670
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:25,120
in the neighborhood and then also um um

1671
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:28,480
traffic concerns, things like that. Um,

1672
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:30,400
and those continue to be the number one

1673
01:17:28,480 --> 01:17:33,760
thing that constituents reach out to me

1674
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:36,159
about. And I I know that um it's

1675
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:37,840
expensive to do, you know, targeted

1676
01:17:36,159 --> 01:17:41,040
enforcement and to be out there doing

1677
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:43,040
tickets and that um our officers

1678
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:47,199
um a lot of times, you know, they have

1679
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:49,760
to take priority calls. But um can you

1680
01:17:47,199 --> 01:17:52,960
speak to what in this budget um is going

1681
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:54,800
to help um with that problem? Because

1682
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:56,640
again it's it is the number one thing

1683
01:17:54,800 --> 01:18:00,400
that residents reach out to me about and

1684
01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:01,920
it's not even close to um you know the

1685
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:05,679
second and third place things that they

1686
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:09,760
reach out about. Um it's speeding, it's

1687
01:18:05,679 --> 01:18:14,480
speeding in school zones, it's um

1688
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:18,719
traffic noise um that is um you know so

1689
01:18:14,480 --> 01:18:20,239
disruptive that it's um having health

1690
01:18:18,719 --> 01:18:23,840
impacts

1691
01:18:20,239 --> 01:18:25,679
um and it's um yeah responsiveness to

1692
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:28,320
sort those same sort of issues. Can you

1693
01:18:25,679 --> 01:18:31,280
just speak to that in this budget? Yes.

1694
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:33,040
I mean, one, the overtime will continue

1695
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:35,600
to allow us to do some of that targeted

1696
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:37,280
enforcement, and I think also the

1697
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:41,360
investment in the real-time crime center

1698
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:45,600
will allow us to respond to issues. So,

1699
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:47,520
in February, we ran a pilot where we uh

1700
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,640
deployed our drone as first responder,

1701
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,880
which we're going to talk about in the

1702
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:54,320
next I think it's the next budget item.

1703
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:56,239
We deployed that drone uh to certain

1704
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:58,640
calls for service, lower priority calls,

1705
01:18:56,239 --> 01:19:01,280
and we were able to clearly 40% of those

1706
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:02,880
calls without sending an officer.

1707
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:05,040
That's really significant for two

1708
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,880
reasons. One, it means we can send

1709
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:08,880
officers to higher priority calls and

1710
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:11,440
get there quicker or it means we free up

1711
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:13,840
officer time to be more proactive. And

1712
01:19:11,440 --> 01:19:16,320
again, as I said earlier and kind as we

1713
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:18,320
as we began the presentation, traffic

1714
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:20,320
safety is a problem in the city. I mean,

1715
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:22,960
we're we're losing more people to that

1716
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:25,199
than homicide right now. And so, we do

1717
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:27,600
need to reinvest. And I think as we get

1718
01:19:25,199 --> 01:19:29,280
fully staffed, as we have the overtime,

1719
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:31,440
as we invest in the real-time crime

1720
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:33,760
center, alternate response, that will

1721
01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:36,239
free up our officers to be more present.

1722
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:38,239
you know, we started a a foot patrol in

1723
01:19:36,239 --> 01:19:40,480
the downtown area, which is is is

1724
01:19:38,239 --> 01:19:42,640
proving to be very successful and and

1725
01:19:40,480 --> 01:19:44,400
popular, and we want to be able to

1726
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:47,520
spread that across the city and and have

1727
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:50,400
our officers have more beat integrity.

1728
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:54,159
Uh when the department was down on

1729
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:56,400
staffing and crime was up, um not just

1730
01:19:54,159 --> 01:19:58,000
here, but across the country, uh police

1731
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,600
departments really just had to respond

1732
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,760
to the highest priority calls and

1733
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:04,400
everything kind of fell by the wayside.

1734
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:06,320
I'm confident that over time with full

1735
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:08,560
staffing, with this investment, you

1736
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:10,080
know, we can start be be starting to

1737
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:12,000
handle these quality of life issues and

1738
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:14,320
and be be more responsive, be more

1739
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:16,000
connected to the community, um, and work

1740
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:17,440
on some of these issues. I I hope that

1741
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,360
answers your question. And on on the

1742
01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:20,800
second point, we'll have my team set up

1743
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,719
a meeting with you, council member, on

1744
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:25,960
the University of Utah.

1745
01:20:22,719 --> 01:20:25,960
» Thank you,

1746
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,640
» Counciloman.

1747
01:20:29,679 --> 01:20:34,640
» Thank you. And thank you, Chief. Um, so

1748
01:20:33,199 --> 01:20:38,159
the first thing I want to just draw

1749
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:41,120
attention to is clarifying that the

1750
01:20:38,159 --> 01:20:44,239
inland court is rightfully returning tax

1751
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:46,480
increment to the city. There would be

1752
01:20:44,239 --> 01:20:48,960
not there would not be a need for these

1753
01:20:46,480 --> 01:20:50,719
additional officers if the development

1754
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:53,520
out there wasn't happening and we would

1755
01:20:50,719 --> 01:20:55,280
be able to pay for these officers if the

1756
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:58,239
taxes were flowing as typically

1757
01:20:55,280 --> 01:21:00,159
designed. However, the state has come up

1758
01:20:58,239 --> 01:21:02,239
with this brilliant idea of an authority

1759
01:21:00,159 --> 01:21:04,480
to preempt that taxation. So, I am

1760
01:21:02,239 --> 01:21:06,159
grateful for the collaboration, but I

1761
01:21:04,480 --> 01:21:09,120
really think especially in such a

1762
01:21:06,159 --> 01:21:12,480
difficult taxation year. It's very very

1763
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:15,920
very clear to our neighbors that this is

1764
01:21:12,480 --> 01:21:19,760
not an act of grace or charity, it is an

1765
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:23,040
act of rightful returning of taxes to a

1766
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:25,600
primary function of the city. Um the

1767
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:27,920
second thing is in concept I am in

1768
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:30,800
support of anything that amplifies the

1769
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:34,159
effectiveness of our skillful police

1770
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:36,480
force. Anything that returns us to

1771
01:21:34,159 --> 01:21:39,120
community based policing and allows us

1772
01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:41,120
to engage with our neighbors. Um, this

1773
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:43,679
is not a you problem, Chief, but I am

1774
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:47,120
putting on the public record that our

1775
01:21:43,679 --> 01:21:50,640
data usage AI policies are not in a

1776
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:51,600
place yet where we can fully be

1777
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,920
confident with some of these

1778
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,920
investments. And so as we are investing

1779
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:58,480
as a council, I want us to challenge

1780
01:21:55,920 --> 01:22:01,280
ourselves to also be investing as policy

1781
01:21:58,480 --> 01:22:03,600
makers in making sure that the way we

1782
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:06,320
use the data, the way we use these

1783
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:09,760
tools, the way we collect and retain

1784
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:13,040
things is in the best interest of civil

1785
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:15,520
liberties, civil rights of all people.

1786
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:17,360
Uh we don't legislate for the people who

1787
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:19,440
abide by the law. It doesn't matter to

1788
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:21,520
me how much premeditation is required in

1789
01:22:19,440 --> 01:22:24,800
murder for 31st degree because I haven't

1790
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:26,400
murdered and will not murder. We have to

1791
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:28,320
have protections for those who will

1792
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:30,960
violate though. So I am not worried

1793
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:33,520
about you chief. I'm not worried about

1794
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:35,199
the officers who I engage with. I am

1795
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:37,360
worried about making sure that as we

1796
01:22:35,199 --> 01:22:40,239
move forward we have policy that

1797
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:42,719
protects the rights no matter who is

1798
01:22:40,239 --> 01:22:45,040
doing what where in our city. So I just

1799
01:22:42,719 --> 01:22:46,800
want to put that on the public record.

1800
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,400
Thank you, council member. And we're

1801
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:51,760
happy to work with you on that. And we

1802
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:53,520
want to have a sustainable uh we we want

1803
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,880
to have a sustainable program so that we

1804
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,400
can utilize the technology

1805
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:59,840
appropriately. So, we're always happy to

1806
01:22:56,400 --> 01:23:04,400
engage. Thank you.

1807
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:08,320
» Um Chief, one more thing. Um the

1808
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:11,520
in 2024 the budget 2024 2025 I believe

1809
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:16,000
that's when what the budget was the the

1810
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:19,120
council uh shared their their um focus

1811
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:23,440
on the Jordan River. Um and uh I believe

1812
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:27,600
it was before you you were joined. Um

1813
01:23:23,440 --> 01:23:30,807
and uh I wanted to our intent then and

1814
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:32,719
and maybe I can be corrected uh by

1815
01:23:30,807 --> 01:23:36,560
[clears throat] our our own staff here

1816
01:23:32,719 --> 01:23:39,199
uh about what uh we were intending there

1817
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:41,760
uh was to create sort of a a group of

1818
01:23:39,199 --> 01:23:44,880
officers that were just hyperfocused on

1819
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:49,840
the river uh on the river trail and

1820
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:52,159
going up and down. Um and

1821
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:54,719
and that was a big deal for you know our

1822
01:23:52,159 --> 01:23:56,960
community on the west side but certainly

1823
01:23:54,719 --> 01:23:59,840
uh this you know generally for the whole

1824
01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:03,199
city. I am not sure where that is. Uh

1825
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:05,600
and I would love an update and and if if

1826
01:24:03,199 --> 01:24:08,239
that has changed you know I I would love

1827
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:10,960
to get an update. So last fall we

1828
01:24:08,239 --> 01:24:12,480
deployed the two green space uh bike

1829
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:15,120
squads

1830
01:24:12,480 --> 01:24:16,560
uh that were obtained off of a federal

1831
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:18,239
grant. The city council I think had to

1832
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:20,239
put some money in. You put some money in

1833
01:24:18,239 --> 01:24:22,320
as well. And so they've been deployed

1834
01:24:20,239 --> 01:24:26,400
since October and they're operating over

1835
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:27,679
in that area. And uh we hope you're

1836
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,600
seeing them and we hope you're feeling

1837
01:24:27,679 --> 01:24:30,800
the effects of their work. But we we

1838
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:34,400
feel like we're making a lot of good

1839
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:38,000
progress over on North Temple along

1840
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:41,040
um both and we'll continue to to keep at

1841
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:43,040
it. Uh one one thing that we are also

1842
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:45,600
looking at is we've seen really great

1843
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:47,600
success with the downtown foot patrol is

1844
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:50,719
looking at areas like Sugar House and

1845
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:53,280
and North Temple and do we start using

1846
01:24:50,719 --> 01:24:54,880
utilizing that model as well and in

1847
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:56,960
those areas and so we're having those

1848
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:58,880
discussions as well.

1849
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:01,840
» Great. Thank you. I that would be

1850
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:03,600
amazing for me to and maybe for you know

1851
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:05,679
council member Petro to to share with

1852
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,760
our community councils about you know

1853
01:25:05,679 --> 01:25:09,760
how that discussion ended up and

1854
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:13,199
something tangible that department is

1855
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:15,280
doing certainly beyond that I think it's

1856
01:25:13,199 --> 01:25:17,120
very obvious to us that live on the west

1857
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:19,520
side the improvements on North Temple

1858
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:22,080
and the Jordan River Trail it's

1859
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:25,840
significant um and a significant

1860
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:28,400
positive change um and uh there is still

1861
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:30,000
some work to do but it's, you know,

1862
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,600
please I would like you to share with

1863
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:34,639
with the officers that are working in

1864
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:36,560
the area. Uh we're very thankful uh to

1865
01:25:34,639 --> 01:25:37,760
to see that improvement. So,

1866
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,600
» Thank you for that and we will share

1867
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,960
that. And I I just I will tell you we

1868
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:42,880
are committed to the residents of the

1869
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:44,800
west side and and making sure they have

1870
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:47,120
public safety and and we will keep at

1871
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:50,880
it. And you may not always see the bike

1872
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:52,960
squad on bikes. They do a lot of uh work

1873
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:54,560
uh with the drug activity that we we

1874
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:56,320
sometimes see in public. So, if you're

1875
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:58,400
not always seeing the bike squads on

1876
01:25:56,320 --> 01:26:01,840
bikes, that's why. But they are out

1877
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:04,000
there working hard, very hard.

1878
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:08,440
All right. Uh, next. Let's see where we

1879
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:08,440
at here on the next slide. I didn't

1880
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:17,520
» Okay, next slide.

1881
01:26:13,679 --> 01:26:19,679
Um, the the contractual increases. This

1882
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:23,280
is just an inflationary increase for

1883
01:26:19,679 --> 01:26:25,760
things like uniforms, gear, ammo, safety

1884
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:29,120
equipment, and other supplies. This

1885
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:32,800
factors in at about a 1.86% inflationary

1886
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:34,480
increase. Um, again, you know, if it can

1887
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:36,080
be ongoing, that's great because those

1888
01:26:34,480 --> 01:26:38,239
costs probably aren't coming down, but

1889
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:40,639
you know, we'll be a team player. But

1890
01:26:38,239 --> 01:26:43,199
that's that request. And then the last

1891
01:26:40,639 --> 01:26:45,120
one, uh, this is specifically for our

1892
01:26:43,199 --> 01:26:48,320
drone as first responder program, and

1893
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:50,400
this is for the ongoing costs for the

1894
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:52,639
five drone docks that will be placed

1895
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:54,960
across the city for our drone's first

1896
01:26:52,639 --> 01:26:58,880
responder program. As I mentioned

1897
01:26:54,960 --> 01:27:01,920
earlier, um, we cleared nearly 40% of

1898
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:04,080
our calls in a test in February with

1899
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:08,000
these drones. Um, it's going to improve

1900
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:11,280
response times and we're going to be

1901
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:13,440
able to just a couple examples. One, we

1902
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:15,360
were able to speed up officers when a

1903
01:27:13,440 --> 01:27:18,880
woman was threatened by an individual

1904
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:21,600
with a pipe. We were able to not send

1905
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:24,320
officers to a call where it was it was

1906
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:25,840
relayed as a violent person uh with a

1907
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:27,199
weapon, which was not the case. It was

1908
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,960
someone having a mental health crisis.

1909
01:27:27,199 --> 01:27:31,280
We could send social workers or not send

1910
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:33,760
an officer at all. and we were able to

1911
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:35,920
pull a an individual off of a parking

1912
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:38,639
garage with the drone guiding officers

1913
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:41,280
in to to the location, which would have

1914
01:27:38,639 --> 01:27:44,719
taken much longer to find her. So, this

1915
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:47,600
is this is going to be a gamecher. Uh

1916
01:27:44,719 --> 01:27:49,280
again, I want to emphasize uh that we

1917
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:51,679
are not patrolling with these drones.

1918
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:54,239
We're not randomly flying them around.

1919
01:27:51,679 --> 01:27:55,840
We're flying them to calls for service.

1920
01:27:54,239 --> 01:27:57,600
uh when they fly across the city, we're

1921
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:59,520
keeping the camera as much as we can.

1922
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:01,120
The camera pointed up so it's not

1923
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:03,120
pointing down as it flies across the

1924
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:04,800
city. We're getting it to the call. It's

1925
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:06,800
it's giving our officers real-time

1926
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:09,760
information and then we're we're

1927
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:12,719
bringing it back. Um we keep a we keep a

1928
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:14,320
a record of the flight, the flight path,

1929
01:28:12,719 --> 01:28:19,040
the case number, the reason for the

1930
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:23,040
flight. Um and that's all uh recorded

1931
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:26,600
and that's what the cost is there.

1932
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:26,600
And next slide.

1933
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:30,400
» And I think that's the last slide. Any

1934
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:32,960
questions?

1935
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:34,880
» Any last questions? Uh, Council Member

1936
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:37,840
Dugan and Carlson.

1937
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:39,760
» No. Carson, then.

1938
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:42,719
» Uh, thank you, Chief, um, for your

1939
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:44,560
presentation. My first question, I don't

1940
01:28:42,719 --> 01:28:46,800
I think I know the answer to, but I

1941
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:48,239
think it's helpful to at least um, since

1942
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:50,000
this is public record, have an

1943
01:28:48,239 --> 01:28:52,880
opportunity for residents to understand

1944
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:55,120
the answer to this question as well. So

1945
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:58,000
when the city publish when the mayor uh

1946
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:59,840
publishes her proposed budget and um

1947
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:02,719
residents of Salt Lake City just take a

1948
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:04,880
look at the pie chart of you know how

1949
01:29:02,719 --> 01:29:06,960
much is going to each department. They

1950
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:08,880
look at the pie chart and they say wow

1951
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:12,080
the majority of our funding is going to

1952
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:13,600
the police department. You've got a

1953
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:16,400
deficit problem. You're going to raise

1954
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:19,760
my property taxes. Why not just cut from

1955
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:22,239
the police department? So, help me um

1956
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:24,239
provide an explanation when residents

1957
01:29:22,239 --> 01:29:27,280
say to me, "Well, why don't you just

1958
01:29:24,239 --> 01:29:28,880
balance your budget by cutting uh all of

1959
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:32,360
the resources that you've put in towards

1960
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:32,360
your police department?"

1961
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:36,400
» Well, you're asking a biased person

1962
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:38,719
probably that question because I am a

1963
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:41,440
police officer. I I think generally

1964
01:29:38,719 --> 01:29:44,320
public safety is so critical and we hear

1965
01:29:41,440 --> 01:29:45,840
concerns, council uh member Wharton

1966
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:49,040
brought up concerns in neighborhoods

1967
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:51,840
with speeding or by school zones or uh

1968
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:54,000
you know we've obviously the issues

1969
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:55,840
around homelessness which is not all

1970
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:57,760
homelessness that we are experiencing

1971
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,880
when we see those things on the streets.

1972
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:02,000
Much of it is but some of it's

1973
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:04,400
criminogenic behavior um violent crime

1974
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:07,360
all of those things. um to have a safe

1975
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:09,440
uh uh capital city uh I think you have

1976
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:12,400
to invest in in a police department.

1977
01:30:09,440 --> 01:30:14,560
Now, as I mentioned, we're looking at

1978
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:16,480
efficiencies and when you know we we

1979
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:17,679
have to look out a number of years and

1980
01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:19,920
so we're trying to figure out how we're

1981
01:30:17,679 --> 01:30:21,920
going to model what resources we need.

1982
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:23,440
We feel like that this this investment

1983
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:25,040
in the police department in the short

1984
01:30:23,440 --> 01:30:26,320
term is going to continue to bring call

1985
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:28,639
response times down. We're already

1986
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:30,400
seeing that those improvements. Uh we

1987
01:30:28,639 --> 01:30:31,920
never want to be comfortable with what

1988
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:34,239
our call response time is. We always

1989
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:36,400
want to try to get that down. If you're

1990
01:30:34,239 --> 01:30:38,639
if you're I our our priority one call

1991
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:42,000
response times are 6 and 12 minutes as

1992
01:30:38,639 --> 01:30:45,040
uh as of April 2025. If you're if you're

1993
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:48,480
threatened uh

1994
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:50,719
in some way uh 6 and a half minutes is a

1995
01:30:48,480 --> 01:30:53,600
long time. So that's actually a good

1996
01:30:50,719 --> 01:30:55,360
call response time nationally, but we

1997
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:57,760
want to try to bring it down down even

1998
01:30:55,360 --> 01:31:00,560
more. So, the the investment in public

1999
01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:02,080
safety drives uh drives people in the

2000
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:04,320
community to get out and get into their

2001
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:06,320
parks. Uh we've had a lot of complaints,

2002
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:08,080
you know, with drug use in the parks and

2003
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:10,320
we can't take our kids to the parks or

2004
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:12,719
certain public spaces. So, we do need

2005
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:14,239
the investment. Um but we want to we

2006
01:31:12,719 --> 01:31:15,520
want to be cognizant of people who are

2007
01:31:14,239 --> 01:31:17,360
concerned that we're getting too much

2008
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:18,960
money and find ways to be more efficient

2009
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:20,239
for sure and we're committed to doing

2010
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:22,000
that.

2011
01:31:20,239 --> 01:31:24,080
» Thank you, Chief. And then just a

2012
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:25,679
follow-up question to that because I

2013
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:27,520
feel like this is kind of the the number

2014
01:31:25,679 --> 01:31:28,800
one question that I get pretty often is

2015
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:30,800
people look at the budget, they look at

2016
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:32,400
the page graph and say, "Well, just cut

2017
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:35,520
from there. It'll solve all your budget

2018
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:37,679
woes." I don't think it's that easy. Um,

2019
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:39,040
but I'm asking this question just for

2020
01:31:37,679 --> 01:31:42,080
the public record and so people

2021
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:44,639
understand more about um how our budgets

2022
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:47,600
are formed. Um,

2023
01:31:44,639 --> 01:31:50,080
so I think it's something like maybe 92%

2024
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:52,639
I could be getting this wrong, but 92%

2025
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:54,639
of the police department budget is

2026
01:31:52,639 --> 01:31:57,920
associated directly with personnel.

2027
01:31:54,639 --> 01:32:02,080
Personnel costs include health care, um,

2028
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:04,080
pensions, salaries, etc. Um, what are

2029
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:06,560
some of the drivers of those personnel

2030
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:08,960
costs and help me understand how things

2031
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:10,880
like labor agreements factor into that.

2032
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:13,760
» So we do have collective bargaining. So

2033
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:15,920
we are under anou with with our unions.

2034
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:19,040
So those those costs are are factored in

2035
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:21,120
there as well or factored in there. Um

2036
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:22,960
when you talk about recruiting you know

2037
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:24,400
if you you want the best you want the

2038
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:26,320
best officers you want the best talent

2039
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:28,480
and when you're competing for a limited

2040
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:30,159
resource we have to compete with other

2041
01:32:28,480 --> 01:32:32,639
you know other departments across the

2042
01:32:30,159 --> 01:32:36,239
state and nation. So a lot of it is

2043
01:32:32,639 --> 01:32:38,000
driven by just market uh market uh you

2044
01:32:36,239 --> 01:32:41,360
know the mark what the market is for for

2045
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:43,120
an officer. But yeah, the the theou

2046
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:45,600
controls a lot of those costs for sure

2047
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:47,679
and the collective bargaining. Um, you

2048
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,880
know, I'll always say this, we're always

2049
01:32:47,679 --> 01:32:50,320
willing to sit down if people are

2050
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:53,040
concerned. I'm willing to sit down and

2051
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:55,520
and and hear them out and and uh see if

2052
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:57,120
they have ideas. I mean, we we we we

2053
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,320
take feedback and we try to improve and

2054
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:59,679
get more efficient and we're always

2055
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:02,400
willing to sit down with people and and

2056
01:32:59,679 --> 01:33:03,920
and see if we can get better.

2057
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:05,040
» Thank you, Chief. Sorry, my last

2058
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:08,159
question.

2059
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:10,639
um in thinking about uh this proposed

2060
01:33:08,159 --> 01:33:13,679
investment in the real time crime center

2061
01:33:10,639 --> 01:33:15,679
and the uh highest and best use of

2062
01:33:13,679 --> 01:33:18,239
officer time towards those higher

2063
01:33:15,679 --> 01:33:21,040
priority calls. How do you think looking

2064
01:33:18,239 --> 01:33:22,960
forward maybe over the next 5 years this

2065
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:24,239
will impact the staffing needs of the

2066
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:25,760
department?

2067
01:33:24,239 --> 01:33:27,360
Yeah, I mean I think I think our

2068
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:30,000
alternate response I think the real time

2069
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:32,000
crime center may help us not have to ask

2070
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:33,600
for more officers as we move toward the

2071
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:35,679
Olympics and you know the capital city

2072
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:39,120
is just getting large. I mean we have

2073
01:33:35,679 --> 01:33:41,120
hockey now. We have we have basketball.

2074
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:43,520
Uh there's potential for baseball in the

2075
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:45,760
future. Uh the University of Utah is

2076
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:47,920
expanding. I mean we just have more

2077
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:50,000
traffic, more events coming into to our

2078
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:51,840
city uh all the time. That's a lot of

2079
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:54,400
people. So, there are there are high

2080
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:56,400
demands on the police department. Um,

2081
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:58,480
I'm hoping that this alternate response

2082
01:33:56,400 --> 01:34:00,800
can help free up time to respond to

2083
01:33:58,480 --> 01:34:04,560
those those calls more quickly. And I

2084
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:06,800
also hope to Council Member Wharton's uh

2085
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:08,239
um concerns that he hears from his

2086
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:10,400
residents that we can also free up

2087
01:34:08,239 --> 01:34:12,159
officer time just to engage on those

2088
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:15,600
quality of life issues, the traffic

2089
01:34:12,159 --> 01:34:17,360
safety, the noise, um just just engaging

2090
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:20,239
with our youth so that we don't have

2091
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:22,159
issues with our youth in the future. Um,

2092
01:34:20,239 --> 01:34:24,000
so I think those are I think the

2093
01:34:22,159 --> 01:34:25,520
real-time crime center will help us get

2094
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:28,000
to a place where we can be more

2095
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:29,840
efficient and effective

2096
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:32,320
and we're seeing we're seeing it work

2097
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:34,000
pretty well across the country.

2098
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:36,480
» Uh, Council Petro and then Council

2099
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:39,120
Member Young.

2100
01:34:36,480 --> 01:34:42,000
I just wanted to thank you, Chief, for

2101
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:44,080
being someone who is trustworthy.

2102
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:46,560
Whether we're asking you to go talk to

2103
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:48,960
the inland court or we're asking you to

2104
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:51,280
go meet with homelessness advocates,

2105
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:53,840
every time I hear that our police

2106
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:57,520
department is in the community, you all

2107
01:34:53,840 --> 01:35:00,239
are representing the city. You're

2108
01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:02,159
reshaping trust where it needs to be.

2109
01:35:00,239 --> 01:35:04,000
This is I'm doing these surveys with my

2110
01:35:02,159 --> 01:35:07,440
constituents. Public safety without

2111
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:10,719
exception is the number one place my

2112
01:35:07,440 --> 01:35:12,400
constituents want investment. And that

2113
01:35:10,719 --> 01:35:13,840
can be kind of difficult because some

2114
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:15,199
when some people say public safety, they

2115
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:17,840
mean social workers. When some people

2116
01:35:15,199 --> 01:35:19,840
say public safety, they mean the sworn

2117
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:21,120
officers. Um, and I'm just really

2118
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:22,400
thankful. I want to put on the public

2119
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:25,280
record. I'm very thankful for your

2120
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:26,719
leadership for the officers who have

2121
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:29,040
been serving the west side and the whole

2122
01:35:26,719 --> 01:35:31,199
city so faithfully. Um, and I look

2123
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:33,199
forward to being creative with you about

2124
01:35:31,199 --> 01:35:36,639
how we keep our city safe, continue to

2125
01:35:33,199 --> 01:35:37,920
grow in the face of all of the all the

2126
01:35:36,639 --> 01:35:40,159
conflicts and issues we have coming

2127
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:43,880
here.

2128
01:35:40,159 --> 01:35:43,880
» Thank you, Council Member.

2129
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:49,600
» Council Young,

2130
01:35:46,639 --> 01:35:51,440
» Thank you. Um, Chief Red and to the

2131
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:53,920
team, again, I echo Council Member

2132
01:35:51,440 --> 01:35:55,840
Petro's thanks. Um, one of the things

2133
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:58,000
that I think is also helpful to

2134
01:35:55,840 --> 01:36:00,639
highlight is the way that your

2135
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:03,520
department has successfully been using

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01:36:00,639 --> 01:36:06,000
data to be able to drive resource

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01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:08,639
allocation to be more thoughtful with

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01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:11,360
the resources we have. Um, just because

2139
01:36:08,639 --> 01:36:13,440
again not everybody has insight to that,

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01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:16,400
I'm wondering if you could give kind of

2141
01:36:13,440 --> 01:36:18,960
like the the twominute overview of how

2142
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:22,400
like the data that you gather really

2143
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:24,960
helps to direct um resources in a more

2144
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:27,280
effective way so that if if I could

2145
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:30,560
speak so broadly that we're almost doing

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01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:34,080
more with without having to increase um

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01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:36,639
staffing um as the city has grown.

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01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:39,280
» Sure. I mean, one example because this

2149
01:36:36,639 --> 01:36:40,560
was the big issue when I when I came

2150
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:42,159
joined the Salt Lake City Police

2151
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:43,679
Department was some of the issues on the

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01:36:42,159 --> 01:36:46,239
Jordan River Trail and some of the

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01:36:43,679 --> 01:36:49,199
homeless related or transient related

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01:36:46,239 --> 01:36:51,119
calls for service. Um, this is these are

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01:36:49,199 --> 01:36:53,360
these are community members calling in

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01:36:51,119 --> 01:36:55,679
or businesses or whatever indicating

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01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:58,320
there's problems. So, we have a heat map

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01:36:55,679 --> 01:37:00,960
that we we look at every week to see

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01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:02,800
where the bulk of those calls are coming

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01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:05,360
in from community members and then we

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01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:08,719
will deploy our homeless resource center

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01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:10,480
officers, our social workers uh or and

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01:37:08,719 --> 01:37:13,520
even our patrol officers into those

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01:37:10,480 --> 01:37:16,000
areas to uh try to see what the issue

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01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:17,600
is. Um, I can I can give an example. In

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01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:20,639
downtown, we were having a hot spot and

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01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:22,159
we found out that we had uh we had drug

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01:37:20,639 --> 01:37:24,000
dealers who were coming to that location

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01:37:22,159 --> 01:37:25,600
and and and that's why we were having

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01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:28,000
some of the issues that we were having.

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01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:31,679
So, we that's an example of the way that

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01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:33,360
we're using we're using data to um you

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01:37:31,679 --> 01:37:34,960
know try to deploy our resources more

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01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:36,960
efficiently.

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01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:40,239
» Thank you. I appreciate the example

2176
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:42,960
because for me knowing that you're using

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01:37:40,239 --> 01:37:45,440
that data driven approach gives me

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01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:47,679
confidence as a council member related

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01:37:45,440 --> 01:37:50,719
to the asks that are coming through

2180
01:37:47,679 --> 01:37:53,119
related to your budget. Um and I

2181
01:37:50,719 --> 01:37:56,239
appreciate seeing the connection between

2182
01:37:53,119 --> 01:37:59,360
those two. Um, and I think to me it also

2183
01:37:56,239 --> 01:38:00,880
gives me confidence in how you're both

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01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:02,800
looking to be at the forefront of

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01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:05,520
innovation to be thoughtful about our

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01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:08,239
use of resources where we need like the

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01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:10,320
human response aspect whereas where we

2188
01:38:08,239 --> 01:38:13,040
may have you know alternative

2189
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:15,360
opportunities to be able to um be

2190
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:17,920
thoughtful about those deployments. Um,

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01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:20,080
and just wanted to say that I that does

2192
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:21,920
give me a lot of confidence in the

2193
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:23,360
budget requests that come forward just

2194
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:25,600
knowing that that's a day-to-day

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01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:27,199
practice of Salt Lake City Police.

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01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:28,560
» Thank you. And we're writing our

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01:38:27,199 --> 01:38:30,080
strategic plan now and we're going to

2198
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:32,480
have we're going to we're going to

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01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:34,080
continue de to develop better key met

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01:38:32,480 --> 01:38:36,159
keep key key performance indicators

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01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:39,280
metrics. So we we have some work to do

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01:38:36,159 --> 01:38:41,280
still, but we're definitely um utilizing

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01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:44,320
data and it's helpful. Thank you.

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01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:46,800
» Thank you.

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01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:47,440
We're good. Thank you, chief. Thank you,

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01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:49,920
everyone.

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01:38:47,440 --> 01:38:52,000
» You council,

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01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:56,400
» We have scheduled a tentative break that

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01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:58,639
we passed. So, um I would like uh all of

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01:38:56,400 --> 01:39:01,440
us to consider continuing with the with

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01:38:58,639 --> 01:39:03,679
the discussion. I hope if anybody has

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01:39:01,440 --> 01:39:06,560
strong opinions against

2213
01:39:03,679 --> 01:39:09,440
speak now. Okay, we're going to continue

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01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:12,880
with item number four, fiscal year 2026

2215
01:39:09,440 --> 01:39:14,639
2027 budget discussions. Uh this is

2216
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:18,000
about community and neighborhoods uh

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01:39:14,639 --> 01:39:21,360
department. Now we're gonna uh welcome

2218
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:24,239
at the table uh Allison Roland, council

2219
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:26,000
policy analyst, uh Tommy Hanser,

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01:39:24,239 --> 01:39:30,000
director of community and neighborhoods,

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01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:33,920
Mike Oerllo, deputy director, and Brent

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01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:37,960
Beck, financial manager is

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01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:37,960
um Allison is your time.

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01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:43,600
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um

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01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:47,600
you know I always it always strikes me

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01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:49,920
that can is a very diverse um department

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01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:51,760
with building services, engineering,

2228
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:53,600
housing stability, planning,

2229
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:55,119
transportation, youth and family and

2230
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:58,719
then of course the arts council which is

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01:39:55,119 --> 01:40:03,920
going to be um briefed in the next uh in

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01:39:58,719 --> 01:40:05,280
the next bit. But um in spite of that

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01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:06,960
you guys managed to pull it all

2234
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:09,840
together. So I'll just go over the

2235
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:11,679
basics quickly. um

2236
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:15,360
and then turn it over to the people who

2237
01:40:11,679 --> 01:40:18,639
really know. Um the proposed FY27 budget

2238
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:21,360
is 41.4 million which is just about the

2239
01:40:18,639 --> 01:40:23,520
same as FY26.

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01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:26,880
The staff size will also remain just

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01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:28,800
about the same. The largest cost savings

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01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:32,960
um 702,000

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01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:35,760
and change um is will be achieved

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01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:38,159
through an attrition savings pool which

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01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:40,639
is essentially holding vacated positions

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01:40:38,159 --> 01:40:42,960
open for four to five months rather than

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01:40:40,639 --> 01:40:45,040
filling them immediately.

2248
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:46,800
Other cost reductions come from cuts in

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01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:48,719
the hive pass program. And this is for

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01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:50,480
general writership, not for special

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01:40:48,719 --> 01:40:53,280
populations like school kids and their

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01:40:50,480 --> 01:40:55,840
guardians and from a variety of smaller

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01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:58,400
items like the city match for fix the

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01:40:55,840 --> 01:41:02,239
bricks um which now that the federal

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01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:04,719
program has expired um there um it

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01:41:02,239 --> 01:41:08,000
basically the program will be closed.

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01:41:04,719 --> 01:41:12,000
Um, the most significant increase costs

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01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:13,760
are an $800,000 one-time youth and

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01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:15,360
family

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01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:16,880
uh

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01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:19,600
I was going to say subsidy. It's a

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01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:21,360
subsidy. I guess that's fair. Um, for to

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01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:23,920
replace federal funds which have

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01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:26,400
disappeared as well. Um, and give the

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01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:30,239
youth and family division time to try to

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01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:33,040
find more um to try to find additional

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01:41:30,239 --> 01:41:35,440
sources of revenue for their programs.

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01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:37,440
and 330,000

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01:41:35,440 --> 01:41:41,360
ongoing for taking over funding for the

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01:41:37,440 --> 01:41:43,199
VO VOA homeless outreach team and

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01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:45,440
shelter the homeless resource center

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01:41:43,199 --> 01:41:48,000
liaison. So those are the two really big

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01:41:45,440 --> 01:41:51,199
increases. Um and there are policy

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01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:53,920
questions sprinkled throughout the uh

2275
01:41:51,199 --> 01:41:57,119
the staff report. So I will turn it over

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01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:59,440
now to Tammy.

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01:41:57,119 --> 01:42:01,760
Thank you. Um, thanks to the council for

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01:41:59,440 --> 01:42:03,920
the opportunity to present um, community

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01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:06,159
neighborhoods FY27

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01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:07,920
proposed budget. I also want to thank

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01:42:06,159 --> 01:42:11,600
Allison Roland. She's been great to work

2282
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:13,679
with as always. Um, before we u dive

2283
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:15,679
into the budget proposal itself, I want

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01:42:13,679 --> 01:42:18,080
to begin by recognizing the exceptional

2285
01:42:15,679 --> 01:42:19,840
team um, behind this work. The

2286
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:21,840
accomplishments reflected in this budget

2287
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:24,560
are the result of a dedicated, talented,

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01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:26,560
and missiondriven department. Allison

2289
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:29,280
outlined all of the various divisions

2290
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:31,760
within the department. Um, we're a large

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01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:35,400
department with a broad scope of work.

2292
01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:35,400
Next slide, please.

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01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:39,199
Every division within the department

2294
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:40,800
plays a critical role in serving

2295
01:42:39,199 --> 01:42:42,800
residents, strengthening neighborhoods,

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01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:44,880
supporting community partners, and

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01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:47,600
improving or implementing council

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01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:49,440
priorities. Their expertise, creativity,

2299
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:52,000
and commitment to public service are

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01:42:49,440 --> 01:42:54,960
reflected throughout this proposal. Next

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01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:54,960
slide, please.

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01:42:57,199 --> 01:43:02,239
Can's uh recent accomplishments are

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01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:04,880
numerous um too numerous to list, but a

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01:43:02,239 --> 01:43:07,040
sampling include the completion of the

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01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:10,159
$89 million funding our future street

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01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:12,960
bond that resulted in 122 miles of

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01:43:10,159 --> 01:43:16,000
street reconstruction, 310 mi of

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01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:18,960
pavement resurfacing, 60 mi of sidewalk

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01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:22,239
curb and gutter, and we added over 2700

2310
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:24,639
new trees and plants. We have also been

2311
01:43:22,239 --> 01:43:26,560
working hard within building services to

2312
01:43:24,639 --> 01:43:29,360
create efficiencies with building

2313
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:31,920
inspections and we are currently current

2314
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:34,239
on all rental inspections which is a

2315
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:35,679
great accomplishment for that team. We

2316
01:43:34,239 --> 01:43:38,480
have found efficiencies by

2317
01:43:35,679 --> 01:43:40,400
cross-training building inspectors. Um

2318
01:43:38,480 --> 01:43:42,239
by doing so we are building internal

2319
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:45,119
capacity, improving institutional

2320
01:43:42,239 --> 01:43:47,679
knowledge, increasing responsiveness and

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01:43:45,119 --> 01:43:51,280
um providing long-term value to the

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01:43:47,679 --> 01:43:53,280
city. On the transportation note, we

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01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:55,440
have successfully navigated the

2324
01:43:53,280 --> 01:44:00,480
requirements of the transportation bill

2325
01:43:55,440 --> 01:44:02,159
from 2025 which recently sunset SB95

2326
01:44:00,480 --> 01:44:05,360
and we are currently going through the

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01:44:02,159 --> 01:44:07,840
steps to comply with SB242.

2328
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:10,480
Um that process um now entails

2329
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:13,520
negotiating with UD do on an an

2330
01:44:10,480 --> 01:44:16,560
agreement between our two entities.

2331
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:18,719
Um we are also continuing to implement

2332
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:20,400
thriving in place the anti-displacement

2333
01:44:18,719 --> 01:44:23,679
plan that the council adopted a few

2334
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:26,080
years ago. Um this effort includes

2335
01:44:23,679 --> 01:44:28,000
various aspects including those in

2336
01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:30,320
planning and housing stability. An

2337
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:32,960
example of a success is the tenant

2338
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:36,560
resource center that started in the fall

2339
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:39,760
of 2024. To date, we have assisted over

2340
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:43,040
2,200 individuals through that portal.

2341
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:46,400
Um, which is great. Um, we are also

2342
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:48,080
another accomplishment is uh continuing

2343
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:50,880
to provide highquality summer and

2344
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:54,960
afterchool programming in spite of

2345
01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:58,600
significant federal cuts to our grants.

2346
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:58,600
Next slide, please.

2347
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:03,920
In terms of efficiencies, over the past

2348
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:05,840
year, we have focused on operational

2349
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:08,239
efficiencies and long-term

2350
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:10,560
sustainability of the department from a

2351
01:45:08,239 --> 01:45:12,960
financial aspect. This includes

2352
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:15,520
implementing the commercial and mixeduse

2353
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:17,920
zoning district consolidation. This

2354
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:21,440
consolidation reduced the amount of

2355
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:24,159
zoning code. Um, also reducing resources

2356
01:45:21,440 --> 01:45:26,159
necessary to administer the code and it

2357
01:45:24,159 --> 01:45:28,400
created efficiencies for developers and

2358
01:45:26,159 --> 01:45:29,920
property owners. These efficiencies in

2359
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:32,239
administering the code actually allowed

2360
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:35,440
us to shift staffing resources to work

2361
01:45:32,239 --> 01:45:38,080
on adoptions of or um drafting of

2362
01:45:35,440 --> 01:45:40,800
community plan updates.

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01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:42,400
We um transferred the advantage service

2364
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:44,320
contract to public services to

2365
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:45,840
centralize cleaning efforts and to

2366
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:47,679
provide for staffing and funding

2367
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:50,560
efficiencies. The mayor mentioned this

2368
01:45:47,679 --> 01:45:53,440
in her budget presentation to you. That

2369
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:54,880
um transfer allowed the city to find I

2370
01:45:53,440 --> 01:45:56,400
think it was like a million dollars in

2371
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:58,480
savings.

2372
01:45:56,400 --> 01:46:00,400
Um we are also coordinating with public

2373
01:45:58,480 --> 01:46:03,360
services to optimize administrative

2374
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:06,080
office space. That includes re-imagining

2375
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:09,199
the old library. Um this will allow the

2376
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:11,600
city to utilize existing real estate

2377
01:46:09,199 --> 01:46:15,440
instead of um looking to bond to build

2378
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:17,119
new administrative office sta space. Um

2379
01:46:15,440 --> 01:46:18,560
and then within youth and family with

2380
01:46:17,119 --> 01:46:20,880
the budget cuts that have been faced

2381
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:23,040
we've optimized budget expenditures.

2382
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:26,320
We're really looking at how we plan for

2383
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:29,760
and order supplies um for youth

2384
01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:32,000
programming. Um we've gone up and down

2385
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:34,480
through that budget to cut where we can

2386
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:36,639
and create efficiencies to make the the

2387
01:46:34,480 --> 01:46:38,960
delivery of services as streamlined and

2388
01:46:36,639 --> 01:46:41,960
efficient as possible. Next slide,

2389
01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:41,960
please.

2390
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:49,760
Um Allison provided an overview of CAN's

2391
01:46:47,119 --> 01:46:54,320
budget. As she mentioned within K's

2392
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:56,719
budget, we're about flat from FY26.

2393
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:58,880
Also on this slide, you will see a new

2394
01:46:56,719 --> 01:47:01,040
revenue change. That's new revenue that

2395
01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:04,400
we're proposing for the general fund.

2396
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:07,360
And then um we also looked through our

2397
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:09,520
non-EP non-departmental expenditures

2398
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:11,360
that are attributed to our department

2399
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:15,960
and we fi found about a million dollars

2400
01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:15,960
in savings there. Next slide.

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01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:23,119
So, the new revenue that I just spoke

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01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:24,880
about is $177,000.

2403
01:47:23,119 --> 01:47:25,840
This wouldn't be new revenue for the

2404
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:27,199
Department of Community and

2405
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:30,000
Neighborhoods. It would go into the

2406
01:47:27,199 --> 01:47:32,719
general fund. But, as the mayor's office

2407
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:34,800
asked us to look at cuts, we looked

2408
01:47:32,719 --> 01:47:37,760
across the board at where we could

2409
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:40,800
either gener um generate new revenue or

2410
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:43,679
reduce expenditures. and in generating

2411
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:47,040
new revenue. The green vehicle program

2412
01:47:43,679 --> 01:47:48,960
was implemented several years ago and

2413
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:50,800
the initial policy reason for

2414
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:52,320
implementing this program was to

2415
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:56,000
encourage

2416
01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:57,679
uh individuals to buy EV vehicles and in

2417
01:47:56,000 --> 01:48:00,080
looking at this program now we really

2418
01:47:57,679 --> 01:48:02,639
think that the market the EV market is

2419
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:05,600
strong and the city's policy in regard

2420
01:48:02,639 --> 01:48:08,560
to EV parking really isn't influencing

2421
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:11,280
the EV market anymore. So, if we

2422
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:15,520
eliminate this program, um it would be a

2423
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:18,960
net of 177,000 in new parking revenue

2424
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:22,000
for FY27. We worked with finance on that

2425
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:24,320
number, but it would actually be even a

2426
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:26,480
greater amount of revenue in future

2427
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:29,119
years because the finance department

2428
01:48:26,480 --> 01:48:32,639
built in a few months to phase that

2429
01:48:29,119 --> 01:48:36,080
program out. Um the other reason we are

2430
01:48:32,639 --> 01:48:40,320
proposing to um eliminate the program is

2431
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:43,119
the EPA um publishes an EPA smartway

2432
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:45,840
vehicle list on an annual basis and our

2433
01:48:43,119 --> 01:48:48,239
city code is actually tied to that list

2434
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:50,400
and there have been recent changes with

2435
01:48:48,239 --> 01:48:53,520
the current federal administration with

2436
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:55,440
the EPA and how that list is managed. So

2437
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:59,440
there's actually lack of clarity right

2438
01:48:55,440 --> 01:49:02,320
now on what new cars qualify. Um, the

2439
01:48:59,440 --> 01:49:04,159
other consideration with the program is

2440
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:07,440
there are still green stickers out there

2441
01:49:04,159 --> 01:49:09,520
on vehicles that qualified

2442
01:49:07,440 --> 01:49:11,760
as an efficient vehicle sever several

2443
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:15,199
years ago but would no longer qualify

2444
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:18,159
under current lists. So that is one

2445
01:49:15,199 --> 01:49:19,840
proposal for new revenue. Um, the second

2446
01:49:18,159 --> 01:49:22,000
item on the slide is access and

2447
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:23,840
belonging. This is actually revenue or

2448
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:26,000
budget neutral. This budget was in the

2449
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:28,000
mayor's office last year. access and

2450
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:30,080
belonging staff moved from the mayor's

2451
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:32,080
office to community and neighborhoods.

2452
01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:33,440
So, this is operating budget that was

2453
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:36,000
left in the mayor's office that we're

2454
01:49:33,440 --> 01:49:38,960
asking to transfer over to CAN. It is

2455
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:43,040
budget that is used to operate the

2456
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:46,639
programs um including welcoming week,

2457
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:48,800
the IFAR dinner, um partnership events,

2458
01:49:46,639 --> 01:49:51,520
new American projects, and know your

2459
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:54,560
neighbor volunteer fingerprinting.

2460
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:57,280
The third item on this slide is the

2461
01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:59,119
police department lease contractual

2462
01:49:57,280 --> 01:50:02,159
increases. We are contractually

2463
01:49:59,119 --> 01:50:04,560
obligated um for this budget through

2464
01:50:02,159 --> 01:50:06,000
lease agreements. So, community and

2465
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:08,800
neighborhoods, the real estate services

2466
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:10,239
team, we manage lease agreements um

2467
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:11,600
throughout the city, including the

2468
01:50:10,239 --> 01:50:13,679
police department. So, this would be

2469
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:15,840
increases for the CL crime lab, the

2470
01:50:13,679 --> 01:50:21,080
community connection center, and the

2471
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:21,080
police substations. Next slide, please.

2472
01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:27,840
VA and shelter the homeless, $330,000.

2473
01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:30,239
We're requesting this to be ongoing

2474
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:32,800
funding within CAN's budget. This is

2475
01:50:30,239 --> 01:50:36,000
actually not new funding. It's currently

2476
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:38,239
funded through a BA in FY26.

2477
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:40,400
And in previous years, it was actually

2478
01:50:38,239 --> 01:50:43,360
those contracts were funded through the

2479
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:46,960
state mitigation funds. Last year, um,

2480
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:50,239
the city shifted the priorities of the

2481
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:51,920
state mitigation funds from efforts that

2482
01:50:50,239 --> 01:50:54,000
were being carried out through CAN to

2483
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:55,920
the police department because the state

2484
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:59,440
wanted cities to prioritize public

2485
01:50:55,920 --> 01:51:01,119
safety with those funds. Um, so we want

2486
01:50:59,440 --> 01:51:03,440
to build in the VA and shelter the

2487
01:51:01,119 --> 01:51:06,400
homeless into housing stabilities

2488
01:51:03,440 --> 01:51:09,360
budget. Um, VA is for a homeless

2489
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:12,080
outreach team. Um this team is actually

2490
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:15,600
working a lot with the connect program

2491
01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:18,480
in PD. It's for engaging persons

2492
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:21,119
experiencing homelessness um for that

2493
01:51:18,480 --> 01:51:23,360
program and also engaging that

2494
01:51:21,119 --> 01:51:25,600
population like if there's an encampment

2495
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:29,440
mitigation. And then the shelter the

2496
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:31,199
homeless contract that is um how much is

2497
01:51:29,440 --> 01:51:33,760
that one?

2498
01:51:31,199 --> 01:51:35,520
80,000. That would be for a homeless

2499
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:37,920
services liaison for the homeless

2500
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:40,000
resource center. And this liaison is

2501
01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:42,239
actually an FTE employed by shelter the

2502
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:44,880
homeless that mitigates issues,

2503
01:51:42,239 --> 01:51:47,920
coordinates with stakeholders and um

2504
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:51,119
does community outreach um with

2505
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:55,040
regarding the resource centers.

2506
01:51:51,119 --> 01:51:59,199
And then um our fifth request is a large

2507
01:51:55,040 --> 01:52:01,440
one. It is 800,000 for youth and family.

2508
01:51:59,199 --> 01:52:03,440
Um, this would be funding to keep youth

2509
01:52:01,440 --> 01:52:06,320
and family programming relatively

2510
01:52:03,440 --> 01:52:10,239
stable, compensating for the loss of

2511
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:14,239
federal funding. Of note, even with this

2512
01:52:10,239 --> 01:52:16,159
$800,000 request, this would if if the

2513
01:52:14,239 --> 01:52:20,480
council approves this request, the

2514
01:52:16,159 --> 01:52:24,400
division would still be over $500,000

2515
01:52:20,480 --> 01:52:26,400
less in budget in FY27 than in FY26

2516
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:29,360
because there have been other federal

2517
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:31,360
budget cuts. But in talking with the

2518
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:35,040
team and looking at how we can optimize

2519
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:39,119
the 800,000 would keep programming for K

2520
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:41,280
through 6 and teens stable. We would

2521
01:52:39,119 --> 01:52:43,760
consolidate adult programming. Right now

2522
01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:45,760
we have an adult programming site in the

2523
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:47,760
Fair Park neighborhood as well as at

2524
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:49,840
Sorenson. We would consolidate adult

2525
01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:51,920
programming at Sorenson and find some

2526
01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:53,520
cost savings there. And like I said

2527
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:55,840
before, the division has already found

2528
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:58,480
some efficiencies and cost savings. So,

2529
01:52:55,840 --> 01:53:00,239
we feel like 800,000 is the minimum that

2530
01:52:58,480 --> 01:53:03,040
would be needed to keep programming

2531
01:53:00,239 --> 01:53:05,119
relatively stable. I am sure you will

2532
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:07,199
agree that these programs are critical

2533
01:53:05,119 --> 01:53:09,599
in supporting working families within

2534
01:53:07,199 --> 01:53:11,840
our city and investment in youth and

2535
01:53:09,599 --> 01:53:13,920
family collectively advances public

2536
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:16,719
safety, educational

2537
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:18,960
outcomes, workforce training, and

2538
01:53:16,719 --> 01:53:20,880
community well-being. So, we feel

2539
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:23,040
strongly that this is would be good

2540
01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:26,239
money spent if the council decides to

2541
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:28,480
approve. Next slide, please. Let let me

2542
01:53:26,239 --> 01:53:32,159
construct uh council member Dugan.

2543
01:53:28,480 --> 01:53:35,760
» Yeah, thank you Tammy and I'm uh agree

2544
01:53:32,159 --> 01:53:38,000
with you on that number about the youth

2545
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:41,199
and family services. Can you kind of

2546
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:44,000
give the uh the city and the council and

2547
01:53:41,199 --> 01:53:45,679
the metrics that you kind of make that

2548
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:47,440
decision for you? I mean, what are you

2549
01:53:45,679 --> 01:53:49,840
tracking there as far as how many youth

2550
01:53:47,440 --> 01:53:52,800
and families and K through sixth graders

2551
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:55,599
that you're you're touching by that

2552
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:58,159
funding and what you're not touching

2553
01:53:55,599 --> 01:54:00,320
because you've lost that

2554
01:53:58,159 --> 01:54:01,440
the other $500,000 I think you just

2555
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:03,599
mentioned that you're going to still

2556
01:54:01,440 --> 01:54:05,520
find efficiencies. Can you kind of guess

2557
01:54:03,599 --> 01:54:09,119
give us a broad view of those metrics

2558
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:12,080
that you're uh using to justify that

2559
01:54:09,119 --> 01:54:14,320
because I think it's incredibly valuable

2560
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:15,840
uh and it's necessary but it'd be nice

2561
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:17,599
to know some of those metrics that

2562
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:19,520
you're tracking with that.

2563
01:54:17,599 --> 01:54:20,960
» There are a lot of metrics we are

2564
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:23,119
tracking for the youth and family

2565
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:24,800
division and programming. I don't have

2566
01:54:23,119 --> 01:54:26,639
them memorized on the top of my head but

2567
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:28,719
we have we actually have that data put

2568
01:54:26,639 --> 01:54:32,080
together in a wireframe that we can send

2569
01:54:28,719 --> 01:54:35,119
over. But the um program tracks

2570
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:37,360
enrollment. Um the programming is

2571
01:54:35,119 --> 01:54:39,360
offered on a sliding scale basis in

2572
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:42,800
terms of the fees for the program. So

2573
01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:45,199
most of the kids qualify for free or

2574
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:47,599
lowcost programming because they are

2575
01:54:45,199 --> 01:54:51,599
from lower income families. So we have

2576
01:54:47,599 --> 01:54:54,719
um income information on the students

2577
01:54:51,599 --> 01:54:56,800
and the the participants um in looking

2578
01:54:54,719 --> 01:54:58,239
in working with the team. and Liz Rich

2579
01:54:56,800 --> 01:55:00,320
is here if you have any specific

2580
01:54:58,239 --> 01:55:02,560
questions on on metrics. Otherwise, we

2581
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:06,800
can email those afterwards. But in

2582
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:09,440
looking at the the $500,000

2583
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:12,080
reduction, if we get the $800,000 that

2584
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:14,080
we're requesting, in talking it through

2585
01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:16,960
with Liz and also with the mayor's

2586
01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:19,199
office, we want to be responsible with

2587
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:22,480
taxpayer money. And we really looked at

2588
01:55:19,199 --> 01:55:24,239
at programming and the the benefits that

2589
01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:26,560
the programming is providing the

2590
01:55:24,239 --> 01:55:28,800
community. And the adult programming is

2591
01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:33,040
very valuable. It's it's well used. It's

2592
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:34,639
like computer labs. Um ESL. I think

2593
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:36,719
there's some financial literacy

2594
01:55:34,639 --> 01:55:39,599
training, other things like that. We

2595
01:55:36,719 --> 01:55:42,159
really feel like the um services for

2596
01:55:39,599 --> 01:55:44,800
youth, the K through six and the teens

2597
01:55:42,159 --> 01:55:47,360
is essential to keep intact for the

2598
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:49,440
community. So, we really looked at then

2599
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:51,760
consolidating the adult programming at

2600
01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:54,159
Sorenson and just creating other

2601
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:57,440
efficiencies that would limit the cuts

2602
01:55:54,159 --> 01:55:59,599
to services for youth. Does that help?

2603
01:55:57,440 --> 01:56:01,119
» Yeah, that it does. And I just wondered

2604
01:55:59,599 --> 01:56:04,560
and there's probably a lot of pressure

2605
01:56:01,119 --> 01:56:07,440
to for the services too. It's it's not

2606
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:11,119
like you have a lot of empty seats. You

2607
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:12,320
have more requests than

2608
01:56:11,119 --> 01:56:13,360
» Right weight lists.

2609
01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:17,520
» You have the weight list.

2610
01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:19,760
» And the program has um Liz, who's a

2611
01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:21,520
newer director, she's been with youth

2612
01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:24,560
and family for a long time, but she

2613
01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:26,639
stepped in the director role um a bit a

2614
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:29,760
bit over a year ago, I believe. um she's

2615
01:56:26,639 --> 01:56:33,119
really been creative, been forward

2616
01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:34,560
thinking. Um she's been a lifesaver in

2617
01:56:33,119 --> 01:56:37,199
working through all of these funding

2618
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:39,920
cuts. We've also um experienced other

2619
01:56:37,199 --> 01:56:42,880
challenges like we had programming at

2620
01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:44,719
the fair park. Um and then we moved to

2621
01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:46,800
the lied boys and girls club, but the

2622
01:56:44,719 --> 01:56:48,960
Boys and Girls Club is now selling lies.

2623
01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:50,719
So now we're talking to the about moving

2624
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:53,199
programming into the Northwest Rec

2625
01:56:50,719 --> 01:56:55,920
Center, which the county has been great

2626
01:56:53,199 --> 01:56:57,920
to work with. So, um, there's been a lot

2627
01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:59,360
going on with Ethan family.

2628
01:56:57,920 --> 01:57:01,280
» Appreciate that and I'd love to see some

2629
01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:02,320
of those metrics just to, you know, for

2630
01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:03,920
there's probably a lot of questions

2631
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:06,159
about that, but because it's a big

2632
01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:09,040
number, but I think that the the cost

2633
01:57:06,159 --> 01:57:10,080
benefit is is huge. So, appreciate that.

2634
01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:11,520
Thank you,

2635
01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:14,480
» Carson.

2636
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:16,560
» Um, thank you for this presentation thus

2637
01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:18,880
far. I think I want to uh follow up on

2638
01:57:16,560 --> 01:57:21,360
Council Member Dugan's questions about

2639
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:24,800
the 800,000 for the youth and family

2640
01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:26,800
programming and that's really coming um

2641
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:29,679
about this year because of uh federal

2642
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:32,239
funding uh cuts and and um changes

2643
01:57:29,679 --> 01:57:33,920
related to that. And so I think my

2644
01:57:32,239 --> 01:57:35,360
question as I'm thinking about this is

2645
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:38,960
are you thinking about this kind of as a

2646
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:41,440
bridge year and then in fiscal year 28

2647
01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:44,320
finding additional resources to support

2648
01:57:41,440 --> 01:57:46,719
this line item or how are you thinking

2649
01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:49,119
about for future years?

2650
01:57:46,719 --> 01:57:52,080
» That is a great question and I meant to

2651
01:57:49,119 --> 01:57:54,880
mention that this is an 800,000 one-time

2652
01:57:52,080 --> 01:58:00,159
funding request so we're not requesting

2653
01:57:54,880 --> 01:58:01,920
ongoing. Um that being said, we are

2654
01:58:00,159 --> 01:58:04,719
still it's still to be determined

2655
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:07,280
whether we can find other resources or

2656
01:58:04,719 --> 01:58:09,040
other grant opportunities. Uh we also

2657
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:11,440
want to look at local grant

2658
01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:13,040
opportunities um philanthropic

2659
01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:16,960
opportunities. So we want to spend the

2660
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:20,239
next year uh analyzing and looking at

2661
01:58:16,960 --> 01:58:22,400
other resources. We also recently um

2662
01:58:20,239 --> 01:58:24,480
hired a national consultant who did a

2663
01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:26,800
three-year strategic plan. And I think

2664
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:28,639
one of Allison's policy questions to you

2665
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:32,159
was if you want us to present that

2666
01:58:28,639 --> 01:58:34,080
strategic plan to you. That plan was in

2667
01:58:32,159 --> 01:58:36,159
process when funding cuts started to

2668
01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:40,000
happen. So it does talk about some

2669
01:58:36,159 --> 01:58:42,000
options with funding. So um I don't have

2670
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:45,960
any good answers for you now, but it's

2671
01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:45,960
something we are working through.

2672
01:58:47,119 --> 01:58:51,119
I just wanted to clarify really quickly

2673
01:58:49,040 --> 01:58:53,520
um because I'm trying to mention it each

2674
01:58:51,119 --> 01:58:55,760
time a department is before us that is

2675
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:58,000
related to the property tax. So um the

2676
01:58:55,760 --> 01:59:00,800
$800,000 for youth and family is part of

2677
01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:02,159
the $13.5 million property tax increase

2678
01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:04,000
proposal.

2679
01:59:02,159 --> 01:59:05,599
» Thank you. I meant to mention that as

2680
01:59:04,000 --> 01:59:09,760
well. [laughter]

2681
01:59:05,599 --> 01:59:12,639
Um the next item is a $700,000 cut from

2682
01:59:09,760 --> 01:59:14,159
non departmental from vacant building

2683
01:59:12,639 --> 01:59:17,679
maintenance.

2684
01:59:14,159 --> 01:59:20,239
um this funding um for the current

2685
01:59:17,679 --> 01:59:22,880
fiscal year, a portion of that has gone

2686
01:59:20,239 --> 01:59:25,440
to the Fiser Mansion. I think it was

2687
01:59:22,880 --> 01:59:28,800
400,000's going to Fisher Mansion. So,

2688
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:32,400
we have been strategically looking at um

2689
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:34,719
improvements to uh vacant and

2690
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:38,080
underutilized city properties to help

2691
01:59:34,719 --> 01:59:40,320
keep those buildings um well-maintained

2692
01:59:38,080 --> 01:59:42,800
and improved as we look at um

2693
01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:44,480
disposition strategies. So currently

2694
01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:46,239
Fischer Mansion receives some of the

2695
01:59:44,480 --> 01:59:48,000
money. We also use the money for just

2696
01:59:46,239 --> 01:59:50,880
ongoing security and maintenance

2697
01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:53,360
expenses. So we're proposing to cut the

2698
01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:56,159
entire pot of money, but obviously we

2699
01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:59,520
still need a strategy and a source for

2700
01:59:56,159 --> 02:00:02,000
paying for um maintenance and utilities

2701
01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:03,520
and lawnmowing and whatnot. So we are

2702
02:00:02,000 --> 02:00:05,119
going to use the surplus. We're

2703
02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:08,080
proposing to use the surplus property

2704
02:00:05,119 --> 02:00:11,080
account for those basic expenses up to

2705
02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:11,080
200,000.

2706
02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:18,000
The next item is a $50,000 cut from

2707
02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:21,679
non-EP departmental transit outreach,

2708
02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:24,080
education, and marketing. This um amount

2709
02:00:21,679 --> 02:00:26,560
that R can receives in its annual budget

2710
02:00:24,080 --> 02:00:29,599
is $100,000. So, we're proposing to cut

2711
02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:32,639
it in half. And we're also proposing to

2712
02:00:29,599 --> 02:00:35,360
broaden the scope not just to the

2713
02:00:32,639 --> 02:00:37,360
transit network, but um CIP and road

2714
02:00:35,360 --> 02:00:40,000
projects in general to do outreach and

2715
02:00:37,360 --> 02:00:42,960
engagement with the community.

2716
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:46,480
Um the third one uh for our reduction

2717
02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:48,159
request is the hive pass. Uh we were

2718
02:00:46,480 --> 02:00:51,679
faced with tough decisions with this

2719
02:00:48,159 --> 02:00:54,560
budget proposal and perhaps the toughest

2720
02:00:51,679 --> 02:00:57,440
decision is to propose the cut to this

2721
02:00:54,560 --> 02:00:59,520
program. The Hive Pass program currently

2722
02:00:57,440 --> 02:01:02,239
provides discounted transit passes to

2723
02:00:59,520 --> 02:01:06,320
residents regardless of their income.

2724
02:01:02,239 --> 02:01:09,599
There are about 440 users of this pass a

2725
02:01:06,320 --> 02:01:12,719
month. Um we made this decision for two

2726
02:01:09,599 --> 02:01:14,560
primary reasons um faced with the budget

2727
02:01:12,719 --> 02:01:16,400
um challenges that we are this year.

2728
02:01:14,560 --> 02:01:18,639
First, we want to ensure that the

2729
02:01:16,400 --> 02:01:22,000
transportation funding is doing the most

2730
02:01:18,639 --> 02:01:24,719
good for the most in need. So we are

2731
02:01:22,000 --> 02:01:27,440
leaving the lowincome pass program

2732
02:01:24,719 --> 02:01:29,840
intact. That program partners with

2733
02:01:27,440 --> 02:01:32,880
service providers to provide daily and

2734
02:01:29,840 --> 02:01:35,840
monthly transit passes for the city's

2735
02:01:32,880 --> 02:01:37,840
most vulnerable residents. And we are

2736
02:01:35,840 --> 02:01:39,920
also proposing to leave intact the

2737
02:01:37,840 --> 02:01:42,000
school district program that provides

2738
02:01:39,920 --> 02:01:47,679
passes to school age children and

2739
02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:50,320
guardians. Um we also are prioritizing

2740
02:01:47,679 --> 02:01:52,639
the frequency of the transit network. We

2741
02:01:50,320 --> 02:01:55,119
didn't want to look at any cuts there.

2742
02:01:52,639 --> 02:01:57,280
So the city contributes about $10

2743
02:01:55,119 --> 02:02:00,320
million a year for the go routes, the

2744
02:01:57,280 --> 02:02:03,520
frequent transit network and for the

2745
02:02:00,320 --> 02:02:06,719
ondemand programs. And so looking within

2746
02:02:03,520 --> 02:02:08,800
the transportation division faced with

2747
02:02:06,719 --> 02:02:10,960
um budget challenges, we felt like the

2748
02:02:08,800 --> 02:02:12,480
hive pass since there isn't an income

2749
02:02:10,960 --> 02:02:14,960
qualification

2750
02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:18,400
that was where we could take the

2751
02:02:14,960 --> 02:02:20,960
reduction over the low income the school

2752
02:02:18,400 --> 02:02:23,440
district partnership and the frequent

2753
02:02:20,960 --> 02:02:25,360
transit network because it's essential

2754
02:02:23,440 --> 02:02:28,080
to keep that frequency up with the

2755
02:02:25,360 --> 02:02:29,599
network. The other concern with the Hive

2756
02:02:28,080 --> 02:02:32,000
pass program is it's getting more

2757
02:02:29,599 --> 02:02:33,840
expensive to administer. So to keep

2758
02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:35,520
administering it at the current level,

2759
02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:37,520
we would actually have to ask for

2760
02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:39,280
additional budget.

2761
02:02:37,520 --> 02:02:44,080
So right now the budget is I think

2762
02:02:39,280 --> 02:02:46,159
350,000 to provide the passes. Um but

2763
02:02:44,080 --> 02:02:47,360
the amount there's also an amount to

2764
02:02:46,159 --> 02:02:49,440
administer the program. I think

2765
02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:53,280
currently it's 60,000 and that will be

2766
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:54,480
increasing to about 150 if we don't cut

2767
02:02:53,280 --> 02:02:56,560
the program. So we would actually have

2768
02:02:54,480 --> 02:02:58,800
to ask for money to keep administering

2769
02:02:56,560 --> 02:03:01,520
the program.

2770
02:02:58,800 --> 02:03:05,520
» Council Dugan. Thank you for that

2771
02:03:01,520 --> 02:03:07,040
explanation. Yeah, it is a it is a hard

2772
02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:10,159
decision to make there on that one

2773
02:03:07,040 --> 02:03:11,520
because as you said it's a valuable

2774
02:03:10,159 --> 02:03:13,599
service. We want people on public

2775
02:03:11,520 --> 02:03:16,880
transportation and this is a nice way to

2776
02:03:13,599 --> 02:03:18,800
pe get people on keep people on buses.

2777
02:03:16,880 --> 02:03:21,280
Do we have a number of how many of the I

2778
02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:26,080
think it's 440 or somehat that use a

2779
02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:29,080
pass would qualify for the lowinccome

2780
02:03:26,080 --> 02:03:29,080
uh

2781
02:03:29,280 --> 02:03:33,679
support for a pass if they were in that

2782
02:03:32,320 --> 02:03:35,360
if they had taken that route instead of

2783
02:03:33,679 --> 02:03:37,599
the hive pass route.

2784
02:03:35,360 --> 02:03:40,000
» Do we do we have an idea? And

2785
02:03:37,599 --> 02:03:41,840
» I don't think we have any idea because I

2786
02:03:40,000 --> 02:03:45,760
don't think we collect any sort of

2787
02:03:41,840 --> 02:03:47,840
income data with the hive pass applic.

2788
02:03:45,760 --> 02:03:50,000
Yeah, because that's not part of the

2789
02:03:47,840 --> 02:03:52,400
eligibility criteria.

2790
02:03:50,000 --> 02:03:55,679
» And is there there's probably other

2791
02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:58,639
multiple sources for passes, companies

2792
02:03:55,679 --> 02:04:00,800
provide passes. Uh we have low-inccome

2793
02:03:58,639 --> 02:04:03,440
passes.

2794
02:04:00,800 --> 02:04:05,199
Is there we're going to be providing

2795
02:04:03,440 --> 02:04:07,280
information for people who currently get

2796
02:04:05,199 --> 02:04:10,159
the high pass where there's other

2797
02:04:07,280 --> 02:04:12,320
options for them to get a pass? Because

2798
02:04:10,159 --> 02:04:13,440
I I it is a service that they're using

2799
02:04:12,320 --> 02:04:15,280
and they're using the pass because

2800
02:04:13,440 --> 02:04:16,880
that's why they want it. and how do we

2801
02:04:15,280 --> 02:04:18,320
make sure that they still ride the

2802
02:04:16,880 --> 02:04:20,560
public transportation, they still get to

2803
02:04:18,320 --> 02:04:22,320
work in that regard.

2804
02:04:20,560 --> 02:04:25,360
» Um, I can coordinate with the

2805
02:04:22,320 --> 02:04:27,760
transportation team on ideas for that.

2806
02:04:25,360 --> 02:04:31,040
Um, I do know a lot of employers provide

2807
02:04:27,760 --> 02:04:32,880
passes like Salt Lake City does. Um, but

2808
02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:37,280
I don't know if we have a comprehensive

2809
02:04:32,880 --> 02:04:39,040
list of of those sources and um I'd need

2810
02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:43,360
to talk to the transportation team about

2811
02:04:39,040 --> 02:04:45,520
and maybe UTA about um other ideas for

2812
02:04:43,360 --> 02:04:48,400
communicating

2813
02:04:45,520 --> 02:04:49,520
um programs and offers for transit

2814
02:04:48,400 --> 02:04:51,920
passes.

2815
02:04:49,520 --> 02:04:53,280
» Yeah, I I keep on I'm trying to push

2816
02:04:51,920 --> 02:04:54,239
more and more people on about public

2817
02:04:53,280 --> 02:04:55,599
transportation because it helps

2818
02:04:54,239 --> 02:04:57,280
everybody. It helps people who aren't on

2819
02:04:55,599 --> 02:04:59,040
the track on the public transportation

2820
02:04:57,280 --> 02:05:00,960
because there's fewer cars, but it also

2821
02:04:59,040 --> 02:05:03,199
helps people get to work and, you know,

2822
02:05:00,960 --> 02:05:04,880
affordable living.

2823
02:05:03,199 --> 02:05:07,199
So, I'd love to have that communication

2824
02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:09,440
so we can absolutely use all the

2825
02:05:07,199 --> 02:05:11,040
different services for everybody and not

2826
02:05:09,440 --> 02:05:13,119
just the easiest one, which might have

2827
02:05:11,040 --> 02:05:15,040
been the high pass.

2828
02:05:13,119 --> 02:05:17,679
» Yeah. One idea, maybe we've done this

2829
02:05:15,040 --> 02:05:19,920
with housing and with other um areas

2830
02:05:17,679 --> 02:05:23,199
within CAN, maybe we could create a web

2831
02:05:19,920 --> 02:05:23,520
page with resources.

2832
02:05:23,199 --> 02:05:27,199
» Yeah. Yeah.

2833
02:05:23,520 --> 02:05:29,040
» Um and ideas for transit passes.

2834
02:05:27,199 --> 02:05:33,199
» Consumer Carlson.

2835
02:05:29,040 --> 02:05:34,880
» Um in regards to uh the on demand, I

2836
02:05:33,199 --> 02:05:38,560
think that's if I remember right, it's

2837
02:05:34,880 --> 02:05:40,480
about like 3.5 million. Um

2838
02:05:38,560 --> 02:05:42,480
maybe as a follow-up, I'd love to see

2839
02:05:40,480 --> 02:05:45,440
how many writers are served by that

2840
02:05:42,480 --> 02:05:48,639
program, number of trips um that that

2841
02:05:45,440 --> 02:05:51,119
program helps to uh supplement.

2842
02:05:48,639 --> 02:05:53,360
» We can get you that information. And our

2843
02:05:51,119 --> 02:05:57,119
partnership with UTA with the frequent

2844
02:05:53,360 --> 02:06:00,159
transit networks um is interesting in

2845
02:05:57,119 --> 02:06:02,960
that we are subsidizing the frequency of

2846
02:06:00,159 --> 02:06:05,760
the transit network and then as the

2847
02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:07,760
system and the the frequency is in place

2848
02:06:05,760 --> 02:06:09,280
for a while and then writership

2849
02:06:07,760 --> 02:06:11,199
increases

2850
02:06:09,280 --> 02:06:13,760
there's that's actually bringing in more

2851
02:06:11,199 --> 02:06:16,639
revenue to UTA and our subsidies then

2852
02:06:13,760 --> 02:06:18,719
being reduced. So we're actually seeing

2853
02:06:16,639 --> 02:06:20,080
some of those positive impacts start to

2854
02:06:18,719 --> 02:06:22,719
happen. So we can provide that

2855
02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:25,679
information to you.

2856
02:06:22,719 --> 02:06:28,320
» Uh thank you for the update. Since we

2857
02:06:25,679 --> 02:06:30,560
are talking about the the high pass, I

2858
02:06:28,320 --> 02:06:32,560
been reached out you know many members

2859
02:06:30,560 --> 02:06:34,880
of the committee reached out to me about

2860
02:06:32,560 --> 02:06:37,199
you know what this looks like uh to the

2861
02:06:34,880 --> 02:06:41,679
city. Uh the impact to individual

2862
02:06:37,199 --> 02:06:43,760
families. you highlighted how tough this

2863
02:06:41,679 --> 02:06:46,480
was to decide between all of these

2864
02:06:43,760 --> 02:06:48,719
programs that do took do good in our

2865
02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:52,480
community and uh choosing between all of

2866
02:06:48,719 --> 02:06:54,960
them is not easy. So, thank you for um

2867
02:06:52,480 --> 02:06:58,320
you know looking through your budget and

2868
02:06:54,960 --> 02:07:01,760
trying to thoughtfully make deci tough

2869
02:06:58,320 --> 02:07:06,719
decisions and and uh uh prioritizing

2870
02:07:01,760 --> 02:07:09,280
what what programs does the best um um

2871
02:07:06,719 --> 02:07:12,560
does the best for for uh for the most

2872
02:07:09,280 --> 02:07:15,119
people. Um I do I would like more

2873
02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:18,000
information about uh the subsidy you

2874
02:07:15,119 --> 02:07:21,119
know the the high pass that is income uh

2875
02:07:18,000 --> 02:07:23,440
qualified. Um I wonder if you know

2876
02:07:21,119 --> 02:07:26,000
ending this program will increase the

2877
02:07:23,440 --> 02:07:30,239
demand on on the on that portion of of

2878
02:07:26,000 --> 02:07:32,719
the of the pass. Um I I struggle with

2879
02:07:30,239 --> 02:07:35,280
the write out you know completely ending

2880
02:07:32,719 --> 02:07:38,239
of it. Um but I you know I would love to

2881
02:07:35,280 --> 02:07:41,599
get a little more information as well

2882
02:07:38,239 --> 02:07:44,480
about uh managing this program and you

2883
02:07:41,599 --> 02:07:47,119
know what um what does it cost to manage

2884
02:07:44,480 --> 02:07:49,599
it and you you you mentioned that it may

2885
02:07:47,119 --> 02:07:51,360
require even more uh resources to manage

2886
02:07:49,599 --> 02:07:55,679
it. I would love more information about

2887
02:07:51,360 --> 02:07:57,679
that as well. Um so certainly this is

2888
02:07:55,679 --> 02:08:01,040
one of those uh programs that I struggle

2889
02:07:57,679 --> 02:08:02,800
with and it when you are looking at your

2890
02:08:01,040 --> 02:08:05,280
own department it makes sense that

2891
02:08:02,800 --> 02:08:07,520
you're looking into this these programs.

2892
02:08:05,280 --> 02:08:10,480
Um I would like to see it certainly for

2893
02:08:07,520 --> 02:08:13,679
us it's it's appropriate to do this is

2894
02:08:10,480 --> 02:08:16,159
look at at it holistically through all

2895
02:08:13,679 --> 02:08:19,199
the different departments in the city.

2896
02:08:16,159 --> 02:08:21,679
Um, and I'm more inclined to find

2897
02:08:19,199 --> 02:08:25,280
savings in other places within the city

2898
02:08:21,679 --> 02:08:27,760
to try to uh, you know, potentially

2899
02:08:25,280 --> 02:08:30,719
hopefully try to make an impact or keep

2900
02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:34,800
something like this going. Um, which is

2901
02:08:30,719 --> 02:08:38,239
not on you, uh, and and it's within us.

2902
02:08:34,800 --> 02:08:40,480
uh and I know that uh 440 you know

2903
02:08:38,239 --> 02:08:43,440
individuals use this pass and it seems

2904
02:08:40,480 --> 02:08:45,599
significant to me and uh in some ways

2905
02:08:43,440 --> 02:08:47,760
disconnected and disjointed maybe to

2906
02:08:45,599 --> 02:08:49,920
what of the goals of the city are. Again

2907
02:08:47,760 --> 02:08:51,920
this is not on you because you have a

2908
02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:54,480
tough decision to make and try to find

2909
02:08:51,920 --> 02:08:57,520
the the most impact for for the money

2910
02:08:54,480 --> 02:08:59,520
that we have and you met the task that

2911
02:08:57,520 --> 02:09:02,320
administration gave you which is try to

2912
02:08:59,520 --> 02:09:04,239
find savings uh within your your

2913
02:09:02,320 --> 02:09:07,480
program. Um, Council Member Wharton has

2914
02:09:04,239 --> 02:09:07,480
a question.

2915
02:09:08,480 --> 02:09:12,880
» Thank you, Tammy. Um, I appreciate

2916
02:09:10,704 --> 02:09:16,239
[clears throat] the presentation and,

2917
02:09:12,880 --> 02:09:18,400
um, yeah, CAM is, um, one of our biggest

2918
02:09:16,239 --> 02:09:20,960
departments and is vast in terms of all

2919
02:09:18,400 --> 02:09:23,599
the services that are provided. So, um,

2920
02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:26,880
thanks for recapping all of that.

2921
02:09:23,599 --> 02:09:30,480
Um I don't want to

2922
02:09:26,880 --> 02:09:33,679
uh like micromanage or or say that you

2923
02:09:30,480 --> 02:09:35,280
know ane every not every anecdote that

2924
02:09:33,679 --> 02:09:41,280
we

2925
02:09:35,280 --> 02:09:43,760
uh see is representative of um

2926
02:09:41,280 --> 02:09:47,520
you know like system flaws or whatever.

2927
02:09:43,760 --> 02:09:49,360
Um, but I do get quite a few um,

2928
02:09:47,520 --> 02:09:52,079
requests throughout the year from people

2929
02:09:49,360 --> 02:09:55,599
that are um, either businesses in my

2930
02:09:52,079 --> 02:09:58,400
district or constituents that um, say

2931
02:09:55,599 --> 02:10:02,079
that, you know, they filed for this

2932
02:09:58,400 --> 02:10:04,320
permit or asked for that and um, that

2933
02:10:02,079 --> 02:10:07,599
there are delays or inefficiencies in

2934
02:10:04,320 --> 02:10:09,920
the system. And a lot of times, um, I

2935
02:10:07,599 --> 02:10:13,520
just want to say like to to our credit

2936
02:10:09,920 --> 02:10:15,520
and our and your staff's credit, um,

2937
02:10:13,520 --> 02:10:20,000
most of the time when I look into those,

2938
02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:24,639
the delay is actually on the petitioner.

2939
02:10:20,000 --> 02:10:26,639
um and uh or it's something that they

2940
02:10:24,639 --> 02:10:28,960
um something's been back to sent back to

2941
02:10:26,639 --> 02:10:32,560
them for um that like something's

2942
02:10:28,960 --> 02:10:35,119
incomplete or whatever and they didn't

2943
02:10:32,560 --> 02:10:39,119
know that or they missed an email or

2944
02:10:35,119 --> 02:10:42,159
something like that. Um but sometimes it

2945
02:10:39,119 --> 02:10:44,800
is um delay on the city's part or that

2946
02:10:42,159 --> 02:10:46,960
there's some kind of like

2947
02:10:44,800 --> 02:10:53,920
um

2948
02:10:46,960 --> 02:10:56,639
um it seems like extra uh or um more

2949
02:10:53,920 --> 02:10:58,800
processes that could be streamlined. So

2950
02:10:56,639 --> 02:11:00,880
I'm really interested. I appreciate the

2951
02:10:58,800 --> 02:11:04,639
what you've already done to add to that.

2952
02:11:00,880 --> 02:11:07,119
I I'm convinced that there are um more

2953
02:11:04,639 --> 02:11:10,719
efficiencies that we can do out there.

2954
02:11:07,119 --> 02:11:12,639
Um and so uh I just would be really

2955
02:11:10,719 --> 02:11:15,199
interested to hear more about that in

2956
02:11:12,639 --> 02:11:17,760
the coming year. Um I think you said

2957
02:11:15,199 --> 02:11:19,280
that that was something that that

2958
02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:21,440
uh you and your team were going to

2959
02:11:19,280 --> 02:11:24,400
study. Um so I'm really interested to

2960
02:11:21,440 --> 02:11:26,159
hear more about that.

2961
02:11:24,400 --> 02:11:28,480
» Thank you for that feedback, council

2962
02:11:26,159 --> 02:11:31,040
member. And I know this has been an

2963
02:11:28,480 --> 02:11:33,920
ongoing topic of discussion and the

2964
02:11:31,040 --> 02:11:35,920
administration has often talked about

2965
02:11:33,920 --> 02:11:39,840
efficiencies and improvements that we

2966
02:11:35,920 --> 02:11:43,760
are looking into. Um I think the time is

2967
02:11:39,840 --> 02:11:47,360
right for some major um analysis to take

2968
02:11:43,760 --> 02:11:49,840
place for um those processes. I have the

2969
02:11:47,360 --> 02:11:51,599
utmost confidence in the building

2970
02:11:49,840 --> 02:11:55,679
services and the planning team and

2971
02:11:51,599 --> 02:11:58,560
engineering. Um, one tricky thing is is

2972
02:11:55,679 --> 02:12:01,360
that building permitting crosses

2973
02:11:58,560 --> 02:12:02,880
departments. So there like public

2974
02:12:01,360 --> 02:12:05,920
utilities is involved in other

2975
02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:08,480
departments. Um, but the mayor's office

2976
02:12:05,920 --> 02:12:12,400
is supportive of looking into

2977
02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:14,159
significant changes. Another um kind of

2978
02:12:12,400 --> 02:12:16,960
sea change that we're experiencing is

2979
02:12:14,159 --> 02:12:18,800
the new IMS director has come to the

2980
02:12:16,960 --> 02:12:21,119
table really wanting to be part of that

2981
02:12:18,800 --> 02:12:22,960
discussion and looking at because

2982
02:12:21,119 --> 02:12:25,599
process improvements a lot of times have

2983
02:12:22,960 --> 02:12:27,920
to come along with technology

2984
02:12:25,599 --> 02:12:30,800
improvements. We've been using the same

2985
02:12:27,920 --> 02:12:33,199
technology for a long time and um he's

2986
02:12:30,800 --> 02:12:36,560
really interested in going down that

2987
02:12:33,199 --> 02:12:39,199
path exploring improvements and ideas

2988
02:12:36,560 --> 02:12:40,880
and alternatives with us. So, I'm

2989
02:12:39,199 --> 02:12:44,040
excited to see what we can do over the

2990
02:12:40,880 --> 02:12:44,040
next year.

2991
02:12:44,880 --> 02:12:50,320
» Okay. Well, thank you. Yeah. I and I

2992
02:12:47,920 --> 02:12:52,639
think you know to the extent that we've

2993
02:12:50,320 --> 02:12:54,239
done a lot of these big changes to

2994
02:12:52,639 --> 02:12:58,159
consolidate

2995
02:12:54,239 --> 02:13:00,880
um zones and um things like that in

2996
02:12:58,159 --> 02:13:02,800
planning I I think we should try to do

2997
02:13:00,880 --> 02:13:04,480
like commensurate

2998
02:13:02,800 --> 02:13:08,000
um

2999
02:13:04,480 --> 02:13:11,280
like efficiencies um inhouse within our

3000
02:13:08,000 --> 02:13:13,040
own systems to uh

3001
02:13:11,280 --> 02:13:16,239
yeah to address that even though I know

3002
02:13:13,040 --> 02:13:18,880
it's multi-ep departmental and and that

3003
02:13:16,239 --> 02:13:20,960
you know there our constraints based on

3004
02:13:18,880 --> 02:13:24,560
technology, but I would just love to see

3005
02:13:20,960 --> 02:13:27,119
that um us look at these things more

3006
02:13:24,560 --> 02:13:29,679
comprehensively and and prioritize that.

3007
02:13:27,119 --> 02:13:31,360
So, thank you. I appreciate it.

3008
02:13:29,679 --> 02:13:34,800
» Thanks,

3009
02:13:31,360 --> 02:13:37,440
» Council Member Young.

3010
02:13:34,800 --> 02:13:39,599
» Thank you. Um I just wanted to dive a

3011
02:13:37,440 --> 02:13:42,480
little bit deeper on the youth and the

3012
02:13:39,599 --> 02:13:45,280
family programming. um because that is

3013
02:13:42,480 --> 02:13:48,159
one of the pieces that would be funded

3014
02:13:45,280 --> 02:13:50,880
by the proposed property tax increase.

3015
02:13:48,159 --> 02:13:53,840
Um can you give us like a maybe a couple

3016
02:13:50,880 --> 02:13:57,520
more details about that um to help folks

3017
02:13:53,840 --> 02:13:59,920
understand why um those programs are so

3018
02:13:57,520 --> 02:14:03,400
essential to our families and residents

3019
02:13:59,920 --> 02:14:03,400
in Salt Lake?

3020
02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:09,119
» Sure. Uh, youth and family provides

3021
02:14:07,280 --> 02:14:12,159
afterchool programming, summer

3022
02:14:09,119 --> 02:14:14,719
programming. Um, this is not only

3023
02:14:12,159 --> 02:14:17,440
benefiting the kid, providing positive

3024
02:14:14,719 --> 02:14:19,920
social outcomes, there's educational

3025
02:14:17,440 --> 02:14:22,000
standards that the programming meets.

3026
02:14:19,920 --> 02:14:24,079
So, it's not just daycare, there's an

3027
02:14:22,000 --> 02:14:26,719
actual education component to the

3028
02:14:24,079 --> 02:14:29,760
program. And it's also essential for

3029
02:14:26,719 --> 02:14:32,719
working families. This allows working

3030
02:14:29,760 --> 02:14:35,119
parents, single moms to be at work while

3031
02:14:32,719 --> 02:14:39,360
their kids are doing something that

3032
02:14:35,119 --> 02:14:42,560
provides knowledge and um social skills.

3033
02:14:39,360 --> 02:14:44,880
So we really feel that um the

3034
02:14:42,560 --> 02:14:46,800
programming is essential. If you look at

3035
02:14:44,880 --> 02:14:49,119
the demographics of the kids that

3036
02:14:46,800 --> 02:14:52,480
participate in the program in the

3037
02:14:49,119 --> 02:14:54,880
programming, it's a lot of um extremely

3038
02:14:52,480 --> 02:14:58,000
low-income vulnerable populations, new

3039
02:14:54,880 --> 02:14:59,840
Americans. So, um, it's really

3040
02:14:58,000 --> 02:15:02,079
essential, we feel, to keep this

3041
02:14:59,840 --> 02:15:05,840
programming at a stable level. But like

3042
02:15:02,079 --> 02:15:07,840
I did say, we looked critically at where

3043
02:15:05,840 --> 02:15:10,320
the money was going, how we would create

3044
02:15:07,840 --> 02:15:14,960
efficiencies. And we're asking for the

3045
02:15:10,320 --> 02:15:17,760
800 and cutting from the current budget

3046
02:15:14,960 --> 02:15:21,040
500,000 because we felt like if we were

3047
02:15:17,760 --> 02:15:23,280
going out and asking for property tax

3048
02:15:21,040 --> 02:15:26,239
funds to be used for these programs that

3049
02:15:23,280 --> 02:15:30,280
we had to be critical and use our

3050
02:15:26,239 --> 02:15:30,280
funding as wisely as possible.

3051
02:15:30,320 --> 02:15:35,199
» Thank you. And I I appreciate those

3052
02:15:32,480 --> 02:15:37,920
additional details. I would just for the

3053
02:15:35,199 --> 02:15:41,440
the broader community conversation draw

3054
02:15:37,920 --> 02:15:45,360
an analogy um to cuts that we recently

3055
02:15:41,440 --> 02:15:48,719
saw happening um at the county level and

3056
02:15:45,360 --> 02:15:51,040
kind of the the public outcry associated

3057
02:15:48,719 --> 02:15:55,119
like with those cuts um when they were

3058
02:15:51,040 --> 02:15:57,440
part of consideration and I appreciate

3059
02:15:55,119 --> 02:16:00,960
um you looking at efficiencies within

3060
02:15:57,440 --> 02:16:03,840
that space um but but tying it to a key

3061
02:16:00,960 --> 02:16:06,560
core demographic and a need that we want

3062
02:16:03,840 --> 02:16:08,639
to continue to meet within our community

3063
02:16:06,560 --> 02:16:12,079
to allow those working parents that

3064
02:16:08,639 --> 02:16:14,000
opportunity um to you know provide

3065
02:16:12,079 --> 02:16:16,320
educational opportunities for their

3066
02:16:14,000 --> 02:16:18,400
kids. To me these are very similar

3067
02:16:16,320 --> 02:16:22,159
conversations. So I just wanted to draw

3068
02:16:18,400 --> 02:16:24,800
that analogy um in terms of kind of the

3069
02:16:22,159 --> 02:16:28,560
the rationale and the justification for

3070
02:16:24,800 --> 02:16:32,040
that aspect of this request.

3071
02:16:28,560 --> 02:16:32,040
Can someone repeat?

3072
02:16:33,439 --> 02:16:36,639
» Did you say Petro?

3073
02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:40,319
» Yes, I did.

3074
02:16:36,639 --> 02:16:43,920
» Okay. Um, Tammy, I wanted to thank you

3075
02:16:40,319 --> 02:16:45,840
for this presentation and for

3076
02:16:43,920 --> 02:16:48,639
the amazing work that we know you do.

3077
02:16:45,840 --> 02:16:50,479
Um, I want to start it off with the

3078
02:16:48,639 --> 02:16:53,679
Sony. I think it was really interesting

3079
02:16:50,479 --> 02:16:58,800
to hear that there's actually costing

3080
02:16:53,679 --> 02:17:03,519
» V consumer Victoria. I um the sound is

3081
02:16:58,800 --> 02:17:07,280
not very clear. So maybe the connection

3082
02:17:03,519 --> 02:17:11,200
is a little poor. I wonder if you can

3083
02:17:07,280 --> 02:17:14,399
slow down the So we have time to

3084
02:17:11,200 --> 02:17:15,599
translate in our brain.

3085
02:17:14,399 --> 02:17:17,120
» Is this better?

3086
02:17:15,599 --> 02:17:19,200
» Yes.

3087
02:17:17,120 --> 02:17:20,639
» Okay. It's stupid Bluetooth. Sorry. I'm

3088
02:17:19,200 --> 02:17:21,760
being a mom while I'm being a council

3089
02:17:20,639 --> 02:17:24,559
woman.

3090
02:17:21,760 --> 02:17:27,280
Um, no Tammy, I just wanted to say thank

3091
02:17:24,559 --> 02:17:29,920
you as usual. This is pretty remarkable

3092
02:17:27,280 --> 02:17:32,080
stuff. Your your knowledge and expertise

3093
02:17:29,920 --> 02:17:35,200
in protecting the city on such wide

3094
02:17:32,080 --> 02:17:37,280
ranging things is really remarkable. Um,

3095
02:17:35,200 --> 02:17:40,000
first of all, on the zoning, it's really

3096
02:17:37,280 --> 02:17:41,760
interesting to hear to see the um

3097
02:17:40,000 --> 02:17:44,559
economic impact of this. Really

3098
02:17:41,760 --> 02:17:46,800
exciting. I'd love to track some data

3099
02:17:44,559 --> 02:17:49,120
throughout the year to see what it looks

3100
02:17:46,800 --> 02:17:50,800
like for adoption and what's actually

3101
02:17:49,120 --> 02:17:53,439
happening with our land use to have a

3102
02:17:50,800 --> 02:17:55,120
comprehensive um idea of how successful

3103
02:17:53,439 --> 02:17:56,399
or how much we need to modify. But this

3104
02:17:55,120 --> 02:17:58,880
is a really really interesting data

3105
02:17:56,399 --> 02:18:00,559
point. Thank you for bringing it. Um

3106
02:17:58,880 --> 02:18:03,280
secondly, I'll look for a similar data

3107
02:18:00,559 --> 02:18:06,160
point with the hive pass if we do end up

3108
02:18:03,280 --> 02:18:07,920
cutting it. If uh I don't I don't I say

3109
02:18:06,160 --> 02:18:09,439
if because council member Dugan is

3110
02:18:07,920 --> 02:18:11,599
really persuasive and if he finds a way

3111
02:18:09,439 --> 02:18:13,359
to not cut it, I know we won't. But if

3112
02:18:11,599 --> 02:18:15,760
we do end up cutting it and we see a

3113
02:18:13,359 --> 02:18:17,599
change in ridership as a result, I

3114
02:18:15,760 --> 02:18:18,880
really would love to revisit that and

3115
02:18:17,599 --> 02:18:21,280
make sure that we collect that data

3116
02:18:18,880 --> 02:18:23,840
point so we can have a robust discussion

3117
02:18:21,280 --> 02:18:26,479
going forward. But then finally, I want

3118
02:18:23,840 --> 02:18:29,200
to join the youth and family programming

3119
02:18:26,479 --> 02:18:31,840
chorus. I openly admit that this is a

3120
02:18:29,200 --> 02:18:34,399
place where I am possibly the greatest

3121
02:18:31,840 --> 02:18:36,399
hypocrite because for a long time I've

3122
02:18:34,399 --> 02:18:38,719
wanted this uh programming to be

3123
02:18:36,399 --> 02:18:41,120
transferred to something more privately

3124
02:18:38,719 --> 02:18:43,679
funded just because you know I want to

3125
02:18:41,120 --> 02:18:47,040
keep as much free for the core city

3126
02:18:43,679 --> 02:18:49,040
services at this moment in time. This is

3127
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:51,599
to me a core city service if we haven't

3128
02:18:49,040 --> 02:18:53,599
transitioned it. Our families who rely

3129
02:18:51,599 --> 02:18:57,439
on this service do not have the

3130
02:18:53,599 --> 02:19:00,240
bandwidth to absorb this. And the, you

3131
02:18:57,439 --> 02:19:02,800
know, $2 a year that'll be returned to

3132
02:19:00,240 --> 02:19:05,760
the property tax holder if we don't fund

3133
02:19:02,800 --> 02:19:08,880
it is not worth the collective impact of

3134
02:19:05,760 --> 02:19:10,800
what we can do if we do fund it. So, for

3135
02:19:08,880 --> 02:19:13,359
me, this is a core city service at this

3136
02:19:10,800 --> 02:19:16,559
point. I am so thankful for leaders like

3137
02:19:13,359 --> 02:19:18,479
Liz and you, uh, Representative Romero,

3138
02:19:16,559 --> 02:19:20,960
who make sure that we have bang for our

3139
02:19:18,479 --> 02:19:23,679
buck. But at this point, I am viewing

3140
02:19:20,960 --> 02:19:26,719
youth and family services as a core city

3141
02:19:23,679 --> 02:19:28,960
service. While I do look forward to us

3142
02:19:26,719 --> 02:19:32,319
finding ways to privatize and reduce

3143
02:19:28,960 --> 02:19:34,160
reliance on the general fund for it, I

3144
02:19:32,319 --> 02:19:35,760
am fully in support of it and I'm going

3145
02:19:34,160 --> 02:19:37,439
to go to the Mat to make sure that we

3146
02:19:35,760 --> 02:19:39,679
don't do it. I'm thankful to you and the

3147
02:19:37,439 --> 02:19:41,280
mayor for finding a path even in a tough

3148
02:19:39,679 --> 02:19:45,399
budget year for us to protect these

3149
02:19:41,280 --> 02:19:45,399
families. But thank you.

3150
02:19:46,479 --> 02:19:53,040
» Um, quick question. I noticed uh that

3151
02:19:49,520 --> 02:19:55,040
advantage was you know reabsorbed within

3152
02:19:53,040 --> 02:19:55,520
you know the department. I'm a little

3153
02:19:55,040 --> 02:19:58,080
worried.

3154
02:19:55,520 --> 02:19:59,760
» No, it's still in public services. Yes.

3155
02:19:58,080 --> 02:20:01,840
» Uh so we still have a contract with

3156
02:19:59,760 --> 02:20:05,840
Advantage Services.

3157
02:20:01,840 --> 02:20:08,720
» Yes. Well, actually oh um you're talking

3158
02:20:05,840 --> 02:20:11,920
about on the next slide cuz I'm actually

3159
02:20:08,720 --> 02:20:13,760
not done with my slide. So I have the

3160
02:20:11,920 --> 02:20:17,520
list of things I want to chat with you.

3161
02:20:13,760 --> 02:20:19,120
Maybe I let you talk about first. I can

3162
02:20:17,520 --> 02:20:21,200
um be efficient.

3163
02:20:19,120 --> 02:20:23,396
» No, no, you are being efficient. I am uh

3164
02:20:21,200 --> 02:20:23,920
just a good student, I guess. Uh

3165
02:20:23,396 --> 02:20:25,680
[laughter]

3166
02:20:23,920 --> 02:20:27,600
keep keep going. Keep going.

3167
02:20:25,680 --> 02:20:30,319
» There's two different advantage services

3168
02:20:27,600 --> 02:20:33,439
contracts. So, one is still in can. So,

3169
02:20:30,319 --> 02:20:35,439
and and for the record, we would love to

3170
02:20:33,439 --> 02:20:38,080
uh preserve the Hive Pass program, but

3171
02:20:35,439 --> 02:20:40,427
we we know there are it's a challenging

3172
02:20:38,080 --> 02:20:41,840
budget year. So, um we will leave

3173
02:20:40,427 --> 02:20:44,840
[clears throat] it at that. Next slide,

3174
02:20:41,840 --> 02:20:44,840
please.

3175
02:20:46,560 --> 02:20:54,319
Um, we are also proposing a $125,000

3176
02:20:51,439 --> 02:20:57,200
reduction in non non-dep departmental

3177
02:20:54,319 --> 02:20:59,600
that goes um transfers to the arts

3178
02:20:57,200 --> 02:21:02,160
council foundation. This would reduce

3179
02:20:59,600 --> 02:21:04,479
the city's transfer to the arts council

3180
02:21:02,160 --> 02:21:07,760
um from 1,25,000

3181
02:21:04,479 --> 02:21:10,160
to 900,000. This cut would cause

3182
02:21:07,760 --> 02:21:12,640
reductions in programming such as the

3183
02:21:10,160 --> 02:21:14,319
busker fest, Mondays in the park,

3184
02:21:12,640 --> 02:21:16,880
springboard for the arts, professional

3185
02:21:14,319 --> 02:21:19,040
development, or other programming. If

3186
02:21:16,880 --> 02:21:21,680
historical practices followed, it would

3187
02:21:19,040 --> 02:21:24,399
be the arts council foundation board

3188
02:21:21,680 --> 02:21:26,960
that decides what specific programming

3189
02:21:24,399 --> 02:21:29,680
would be cut. And the foundation board

3190
02:21:26,960 --> 02:21:31,520
could look at because they leverage the

3191
02:21:29,680 --> 02:21:34,000
city's money with grants and other

3192
02:21:31,520 --> 02:21:37,120
fundraising. So they could look at grant

3193
02:21:34,000 --> 02:21:39,680
opportunities or um other sources of

3194
02:21:37,120 --> 02:21:41,920
revenue within the foundation to cover

3195
02:21:39,680 --> 02:21:43,840
programming. We have I think the next

3196
02:21:41,920 --> 02:21:45,920
agenda item is the arts council. So we

3197
02:21:43,840 --> 02:21:47,600
can get into this more. Council member

3198
02:21:45,920 --> 02:21:50,640
Pu, I know that public art is very

3199
02:21:47,600 --> 02:21:52,640
important um for you. So this isn't the

3200
02:21:50,640 --> 02:21:54,800
public art portion of the arts council.

3201
02:21:52,640 --> 02:21:56,560
This is the transfer to non-dep

3202
02:21:54,800 --> 02:21:59,760
departmental that is mostly for

3203
02:21:56,560 --> 02:22:03,040
programming. Um, the next item is

3204
02:21:59,760 --> 02:22:05,840
$50,000 proposed to be cut from planning

3205
02:22:03,040 --> 02:22:08,240
for a historic preservation consultant.

3206
02:22:05,840 --> 02:22:10,319
This funding has been used over the past

3207
02:22:08,240 --> 02:22:13,040
few years to update historic survey

3208
02:22:10,319 --> 02:22:15,200
records for local historic districts. We

3209
02:22:13,040 --> 02:22:18,080
feel that we can transfer these duties

3210
02:22:15,200 --> 02:22:19,760
inhouse. Um, we still have some

3211
02:22:18,080 --> 02:22:21,840
consulting money that would remain

3212
02:22:19,760 --> 02:22:23,439
within planning for the expertise that

3213
02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:26,880
we need like for architectural

3214
02:22:23,439 --> 02:22:30,479
historians and other consultants. The

3215
02:22:26,880 --> 02:22:32,080
next item is a $50,000 cut um for

3216
02:22:30,479 --> 02:22:34,560
engineering's public outreach

3217
02:22:32,080 --> 02:22:37,439
consultant. This would cut that funding

3218
02:22:34,560 --> 02:22:38,960
entirely. Council member Young, you I'm

3219
02:22:37,439 --> 02:22:40,800
sure are familiar with these services

3220
02:22:38,960 --> 02:22:42,960
with the Sugar House Street

3221
02:22:40,800 --> 02:22:45,439
Reconstruction Project. That funding

3222
02:22:42,960 --> 02:22:48,399
paid for the consultant that did

3223
02:22:45,439 --> 02:22:50,880
outreach with the community. Um we feel

3224
02:22:48,399 --> 02:22:55,600
that with the although we would miss

3225
02:22:50,880 --> 02:22:57,760
this funding, we feel that with the um

3226
02:22:55,600 --> 02:23:00,479
completion of the streets bond and with

3227
02:22:57,760 --> 02:23:03,040
shifting our priorities more from large

3228
02:23:00,479 --> 02:23:06,000
reconstruction projects to local streets

3229
02:23:03,040 --> 02:23:08,880
that um we can manage without this

3230
02:23:06,000 --> 02:23:10,880
funding and do those efforts inhouse. Um

3231
02:23:08,880 --> 02:23:13,880
the next one, if you go to the next

3232
02:23:10,880 --> 02:23:13,880
slide,

3233
02:23:14,880 --> 02:23:19,680
um housing fix the bricks match. There

3234
02:23:17,040 --> 02:23:21,920
was a federal requirement through FEMA.

3235
02:23:19,680 --> 02:23:24,000
Um we no longer have FEMA funding for

3236
02:23:21,920 --> 02:23:28,080
fix the bricks. So we do not need this

3237
02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:31,280
$84,000 match. Um reduction number eight

3238
02:23:28,080 --> 02:23:33,439
is the neighborly software for $60,000.

3239
02:23:31,280 --> 02:23:35,920
We would not be this wouldn't be a cut

3240
02:23:33,439 --> 02:23:37,920
in services. we would be shifting the

3241
02:23:35,920 --> 02:23:39,680
software expense from the general fund

3242
02:23:37,920 --> 02:23:41,760
and charge it to federal grants like

3243
02:23:39,680 --> 02:23:44,240
CDBG.

3244
02:23:41,760 --> 02:23:47,680
um the housing funding our future

3245
02:23:44,240 --> 02:23:49,840
contract. This 90,000 $92,000 reduction

3246
02:23:47,680 --> 02:23:52,479
from funding our future, it actually

3247
02:23:49,840 --> 02:23:55,040
wouldn't result in a loss in services

3248
02:23:52,479 --> 02:23:56,240
because the tenant resource center is

3249
02:23:55,040 --> 02:23:58,000
administered by the community

3250
02:23:56,240 --> 02:24:00,720
development corporation of Utah and you

3251
02:23:58,000 --> 02:24:03,359
just admin or you just awarded funding

3252
02:24:00,720 --> 02:24:06,240
to CDCU for that program through the

3253
02:24:03,359 --> 02:24:08,240
funding our future round. So this

3254
02:24:06,240 --> 02:24:12,560
reduction would not result in loss of

3255
02:24:08,240 --> 02:24:12,560
services. Next slide please.

3256
02:24:12,720 --> 02:24:18,319
the homelessness contracts. Um we

3257
02:24:15,840 --> 02:24:20,160
haven't been using um an amount every

3258
02:24:18,319 --> 02:24:23,040
year that's allocated for portable

3259
02:24:20,160 --> 02:24:26,000
toilet rentals for 32,000. So we're

3260
02:24:23,040 --> 02:24:29,280
proposing to reduce that. But we are

3261
02:24:26,000 --> 02:24:31,439
proposing to have a $12,000 increase for

3262
02:24:29,280 --> 02:24:33,200
advantage services a place for your

3263
02:24:31,439 --> 02:24:36,319
stuff. So this would increase that

3264
02:24:33,200 --> 02:24:38,720
contract from 85,000 to 97,000. So

3265
02:24:36,319 --> 02:24:40,880
that's for the storage program. That's

3266
02:24:38,720 --> 02:24:42,960
program still administered through CAN,

3267
02:24:40,880 --> 02:24:46,160
but the cleaning is administered through

3268
02:24:42,960 --> 02:24:49,920
public services. And then the last two

3269
02:24:46,160 --> 02:24:52,560
are um vacancy savings essentially.

3270
02:24:49,920 --> 02:24:54,160
There's actually an engineering 7

3271
02:24:52,560 --> 02:24:56,640
position that's currently open that

3272
02:24:54,160 --> 02:25:00,080
we've agreed to hold open for the entire

3273
02:24:56,640 --> 02:25:02,960
year. um because we've consolidated um

3274
02:25:00,080 --> 02:25:04,880
engineering management efforts within

3275
02:25:02,960 --> 02:25:07,439
transportation, we don't want to

3276
02:25:04,880 --> 02:25:09,760
eliminate that FTE yet because we want

3277
02:25:07,439 --> 02:25:12,560
to make sure that this is a viable path

3278
02:25:09,760 --> 02:25:14,479
forward. Um I did listen to the earlier

3279
02:25:12,560 --> 02:25:16,800
briefing and I think Jennifer, you

3280
02:25:14,479 --> 02:25:19,760
described our approach to vacancy

3281
02:25:16,800 --> 02:25:21,840
savings spoton. Um we really want we

3282
02:25:19,760 --> 02:25:23,359
have a large um the last item is a

3283
02:25:21,840 --> 02:25:26,080
$72,000

3284
02:25:23,359 --> 02:25:28,640
attrition vacancy savings pool. We did

3285
02:25:26,080 --> 02:25:31,120
not want to eliminate any FTEEs. Right

3286
02:25:28,640 --> 02:25:33,920
now, um CAN is a large department with

3287
02:25:31,120 --> 02:25:36,720
about 250 employees. So, we naturally

3288
02:25:33,920 --> 02:25:38,800
get quite a bit of vacancy savings over

3289
02:25:36,720 --> 02:25:40,880
the year. This is more than we typically

3290
02:25:38,800 --> 02:25:42,880
get. So, we are planning to hold

3291
02:25:40,880 --> 02:25:46,080
positions open for a longer period of

3292
02:25:42,880 --> 02:25:48,240
time. And we also want to look at any

3293
02:25:46,080 --> 02:25:50,640
efficiencies or combining of job

3294
02:25:48,240 --> 02:25:52,080
responsibilities over the next year. But

3295
02:25:50,640 --> 02:25:56,080
we really wanted to take the next year

3296
02:25:52,080 --> 02:26:01,200
to kind of analyze how that shakes out.

3297
02:25:56,080 --> 02:26:03,600
And I think that is it. Um, again, I

3298
02:26:01,200 --> 02:26:05,760
appreciate the partnership and support

3299
02:26:03,600 --> 02:26:07,840
from the council and I'd be happy to

3300
02:26:05,760 --> 02:26:08,640
answer any more questions or hear any

3301
02:26:07,840 --> 02:26:09,920
more feedback.

3302
02:26:08,640 --> 02:26:10,960
» Council Mugan has more questions.

3303
02:26:09,920 --> 02:26:12,960
» Sorry, I just one more question about

3304
02:26:10,960 --> 02:26:15,920
the fix the brick program. So, is that

3305
02:26:12,960 --> 02:26:19,359
program now because the feds aren't

3306
02:26:15,920 --> 02:26:20,800
uh supporting it, is that eliminated or

3307
02:26:19,359 --> 02:26:22,880
is it still a fix the bricks? you're

3308
02:26:20,800 --> 02:26:26,960
just not uh

3309
02:26:22,880 --> 02:26:28,720
» So the council has allocated over some

3310
02:26:26,960 --> 02:26:31,200
previous budget rounds some funding from

3311
02:26:28,720 --> 02:26:32,800
CDBG so there is a smaller pot of money

3312
02:26:31,200 --> 02:26:36,080
that is still being used for fix the

3313
02:26:32,800 --> 02:26:39,840
bricks the FEMA program there was not an

3314
02:26:36,080 --> 02:26:42,479
income requirement for um recipients of

3315
02:26:39,840 --> 02:26:45,120
the program but since it's CDBG and HUD

3316
02:26:42,479 --> 02:26:47,359
there is an income requirement with the

3317
02:26:45,120 --> 02:26:48,160
smaller pot of money that that we still

3318
02:26:47,359 --> 02:26:49,600
have.

3319
02:26:48,160 --> 02:26:52,080
» Gotcha. Thank you very much. But the

3320
02:26:49,600 --> 02:26:55,920
FEMA had a match requirement and that's

3321
02:26:52,080 --> 02:26:58,560
where the general fund um allocation

3322
02:26:55,920 --> 02:27:00,399
came in play. Um so we don't need that

3323
02:26:58,560 --> 02:27:01,040
anymore. So that's why we proposed that

3324
02:27:00,399 --> 02:27:03,120
reduction.

3325
02:27:01,040 --> 02:27:04,800
» Gotcha. But the program's still ongoing

3326
02:27:03,120 --> 02:27:08,160
and but there's there's now more of the

3327
02:27:04,800 --> 02:27:09,840
income uh threshold for that.

3328
02:27:08,160 --> 02:27:11,600
» And a lot less money.

3329
02:27:09,840 --> 02:27:15,160
» And a lot less money. Right.

3330
02:27:11,600 --> 02:27:15,160
» Okay. Thank you.

3331
02:27:15,680 --> 02:27:23,359
» I wonder there's no hands up. So I guess

3332
02:27:19,120 --> 02:27:26,080
it's my turn. Uh so the the cleaning

3333
02:27:23,359 --> 02:27:27,680
portion of the advantage uh can you

3334
02:27:26,080 --> 02:27:30,720
explain a little more about how we're

3335
02:27:27,680 --> 02:27:36,080
going to maintain uh

3336
02:27:30,720 --> 02:27:37,600
service levels? Um you know a little bit

3337
02:27:36,080 --> 02:27:40,399
tell me a little more.

3338
02:27:37,600 --> 02:27:42,800
Um, when Jorge presents public services

3339
02:27:40,399 --> 02:27:44,720
budget, he can get in much more detail

3340
02:27:42,800 --> 02:27:47,280
than I can with that because the new

3341
02:27:44,720 --> 02:27:50,240
urban services team has been operating

3342
02:27:47,280 --> 02:27:52,800
for almost a year. And um, we did

3343
02:27:50,240 --> 02:27:55,040
transfer the advantage services portion

3344
02:27:52,800 --> 02:27:57,760
of the cleaning to public services for

3345
02:27:55,040 --> 02:27:59,359
administration by that team. And it's my

3346
02:27:57,760 --> 02:28:01,680
understanding that they have found a lot

3347
02:27:59,359 --> 02:28:03,359
of cost savings with that contract and

3348
02:28:01,680 --> 02:28:04,720
transferred a lot of that scope of work

3349
02:28:03,359 --> 02:28:08,000
inhouse.

3350
02:28:04,720 --> 02:28:10,880
» Okay, that that's helpful. um EV uh the

3351
02:28:08,000 --> 02:28:13,120
north the north temple substation uh and

3352
02:28:10,880 --> 02:28:15,040
you have the the downtown the region

3353
02:28:13,120 --> 02:28:17,280
street substation and the north temple

3354
02:28:15,040 --> 02:28:20,000
substation as part of the increase for

3355
02:28:17,280 --> 02:28:22,479
$60,000. How much is that? How much of

3356
02:28:20,000 --> 02:28:25,920
that is the north temple? Uh, and are we

3357
02:28:22,479 --> 02:28:27,680
using it? Because I is it that necessary

3358
02:28:25,920 --> 02:28:29,439
right now? And I know it's probably the

3359
02:28:27,680 --> 02:28:30,000
smallest portion of that increase, but I

3360
02:28:29,439 --> 02:28:32,399
would love

3361
02:28:30,000 --> 02:28:34,160
» It is very small. I can't remember the

3362
02:28:32,399 --> 02:28:37,040
exact amount off the top of my head, but

3363
02:28:34,160 --> 02:28:40,560
I do remember it's a 5-year lease. It's

3364
02:28:37,040 --> 02:28:42,560
the downtown site is an actual precinct.

3365
02:28:40,560 --> 02:28:46,800
The one on North Temple is just a bike

3366
02:28:42,560 --> 02:28:48,319
substation. Uh, I did ask um the police

3367
02:28:46,800 --> 02:28:50,560
department a while ago if they're using

3368
02:28:48,319 --> 02:28:54,319
it and they they did say that they use

3369
02:28:50,560 --> 02:28:56,000
it. It's not a high amount of rent. I do

3370
02:28:54,319 --> 02:28:58,000
remember the first year the city

3371
02:28:56,000 --> 02:29:00,560
actually paid zero rent and then I think

3372
02:28:58,000 --> 02:29:03,439
it went up to like 1,200 and it it ticks

3373
02:29:00,560 --> 02:29:04,080
up every year but it's it's not a lot of

3374
02:29:03,439 --> 02:29:06,240
money.

3375
02:29:04,080 --> 02:29:08,800
» Yeah. No, I remember that you know the

3376
02:29:06,240 --> 02:29:11,760
offer because I was part of that

3377
02:29:08,800 --> 02:29:13,600
conversation very early on. It took us a

3378
02:29:11,760 --> 02:29:17,200
year to actually get pull it off. So

3379
02:29:13,600 --> 02:29:20,160
that free year was uh but uh I would

3380
02:29:17,200 --> 02:29:22,880
love to if we are constructed you know

3381
02:29:20,160 --> 02:29:25,840
to to maintain that rent that makes

3382
02:29:22,880 --> 02:29:28,560
sense. But I I would love to uh ask the

3383
02:29:25,840 --> 02:29:31,120
department uh you know if we're going to

3384
02:29:28,560 --> 02:29:32,560
vacay that place to start looking at it

3385
02:29:31,120 --> 02:29:35,200
you know sooner rather than later and

3386
02:29:32,560 --> 02:29:37,439
still getting locked in into a continued

3387
02:29:35,200 --> 02:29:38,960
rent when we might not need it. Uh

3388
02:29:37,439 --> 02:29:41,680
ultimately it may not be a lot of money

3389
02:29:38,960 --> 02:29:43,040
and and they might see value on it. Um

3390
02:29:41,680 --> 02:29:44,240
but you know I would love more

3391
02:29:43,040 --> 02:29:49,200
information about that. [clears throat]

3392
02:29:44,240 --> 02:29:52,880
Um then there is um uh you mentioned EV

3393
02:29:49,200 --> 02:29:55,920
uh parking um which is uh I think is it

3394
02:29:52,880 --> 02:29:58,800
makes sense to to make that change. Um

3395
02:29:55,920 --> 02:30:02,160
is the EV electrical uh portion the cost

3396
02:29:58,800 --> 02:30:04,800
of the electricity for those uh u

3397
02:30:02,160 --> 02:30:07,280
charging units uh within uh your

3398
02:30:04,800 --> 02:30:08,880
department? it isn't

3399
02:30:07,280 --> 02:30:10,800
» It is.

3400
02:30:08,880 --> 02:30:12,399
» So I would love to have that

3401
02:30:10,800 --> 02:30:14,640
conversation as well. So I'm gonna flag

3402
02:30:12,399 --> 02:30:17,439
it for all of us to make sure that we

3403
02:30:14,640 --> 02:30:20,399
have that conversation as well. Um as

3404
02:30:17,439 --> 02:30:23,280
far as dispositional properties, um it's

3405
02:30:20,399 --> 02:30:25,040
a question I have. I there is I keep

3406
02:30:23,280 --> 02:30:28,640
learning about new properties that we

3407
02:30:25,040 --> 02:30:30,080
own and we have owned for a while and I

3408
02:30:28,640 --> 02:30:32,160
would love to find out what are we going

3409
02:30:30,080 --> 02:30:34,720
to do with them because they cost us a

3410
02:30:32,160 --> 02:30:39,439
lot of money to maintain. I still don't

3411
02:30:34,720 --> 02:30:43,280
know um if there is a grand plan to to

3412
02:30:39,439 --> 02:30:45,280
dispose of them or to develop them or uh

3413
02:30:43,280 --> 02:30:47,439
and I feel like this is a conversation

3414
02:30:45,280 --> 02:30:49,280
we had had for a little while. You know,

3415
02:30:47,439 --> 02:30:51,200
maybe because it's an administrative

3416
02:30:49,280 --> 02:30:55,040
thing. It makes sense that we may not be

3417
02:30:51,200 --> 02:30:56,560
privy to the details, but when we have

3418
02:30:55,040 --> 02:30:59,520
um

3419
02:30:56,560 --> 02:31:00,720
budget struggles, you know, to me, you

3420
02:30:59,520 --> 02:31:02,800
know, it comes to mind all the

3421
02:31:00,720 --> 02:31:05,840
properties that we own. And you know, is

3422
02:31:02,800 --> 02:31:09,120
it possible that we disposing or some of

3423
02:31:05,840 --> 02:31:12,000
them may make sense to try to cancel out

3424
02:31:09,120 --> 02:31:14,880
some of the costs that we have? Yes, is

3425
02:31:12,000 --> 02:31:17,359
one-time money, but you know, uh we have

3426
02:31:14,880 --> 02:31:20,080
we we have uh made decisions like that

3427
02:31:17,359 --> 02:31:21,920
in the past and currently too. So I

3428
02:31:20,080 --> 02:31:23,760
would love to know a little more about

3429
02:31:21,920 --> 02:31:24,960
the disposition of property within the

3430
02:31:23,760 --> 02:31:26,960
department.

3431
02:31:24,960 --> 02:31:29,600
» We'd be happy to have that discussion.

3432
02:31:26,960 --> 02:31:33,120
» Thank you. Any other random questions or

3433
02:31:29,600 --> 02:31:34,560
not random or very smart ones?

3434
02:31:33,120 --> 02:31:36,720
» No. Okay.

3435
02:31:34,560 --> 02:31:39,120
» Could I correct just quickly what I said

3436
02:31:36,720 --> 02:31:41,600
before? Um it looks like it's

3437
02:31:39,120 --> 02:31:43,040
sustainability and public services that

3438
02:31:41,600 --> 02:31:44,479
take care of the EV chargers.

3439
02:31:43,040 --> 02:31:46,560
» Okay. We're looking forward to that

3440
02:31:44,479 --> 02:31:49,680
discussion soon. Um thank you so much

3441
02:31:46,560 --> 02:31:51,840
for the update. I I I cannot speak

3442
02:31:49,680 --> 02:31:54,240
highly of the work that you guys do in

3443
02:31:51,840 --> 02:31:56,560
that department. I it's just incredible.

3444
02:31:54,240 --> 02:31:59,520
Uh so

3445
02:31:56,560 --> 02:32:01,680
really uh we are very lucky to have you

3446
02:31:59,520 --> 02:32:02,000
uh as a team leading this city. So thank

3447
02:32:01,680 --> 02:32:03,520
you.

3448
02:32:02,000 --> 02:32:06,160
» Well, thank you. A lot of the credit

3449
02:32:03,520 --> 02:32:09,439
goes to the division leadership. A lot

3450
02:32:06,160 --> 02:32:12,399
of I think a lot of them are behind me.

3451
02:32:09,439 --> 02:32:17,600
» Thank you.

3452
02:32:12,399 --> 02:32:19,680
Uh council members, we are

3453
02:32:17,600 --> 02:32:22,160
Not too far behind. We made up some time

3454
02:32:19,680 --> 02:32:24,880
somehow. Oh, the break. That's how uh we

3455
02:32:22,160 --> 02:32:28,160
ate on that break. Um we're still good,

3456
02:32:24,880 --> 02:32:30,080
right? We can do this.

3457
02:32:28,160 --> 02:32:32,560
» You need a

3458
02:32:30,080 --> 02:32:35,280
» Yes, we do have a quorum. Okay, I will

3459
02:32:32,560 --> 02:32:36,640
speak slowly to give you a little more

3460
02:32:35,280 --> 02:32:38,479
time.

3461
02:32:36,640 --> 02:32:43,280
» Oh god. One one at a time. We have

3462
02:32:38,479 --> 02:32:46,560
quorum issues. Um take turns. Uh so

3463
02:32:43,280 --> 02:32:49,359
moving on to item number five for this

3464
02:32:46,560 --> 02:32:51,120
is again fiscal year 2026 2027 as a

3465
02:32:49,359 --> 02:32:53,520
budget discussion for the arts council.

3466
02:32:51,120 --> 02:32:56,240
Now we're going to welcome Sylvia

3467
02:32:53,520 --> 02:33:00,560
Richards council policy analyst Felicia

3468
02:32:56,240 --> 02:33:03,520
Baka arts council director uh Lauren uh

3469
02:33:00,560 --> 02:33:06,160
Laurel Conan Alder arts council

3470
02:33:03,520 --> 02:33:09,101
assistant director. Sorry for you know

3471
02:33:06,160 --> 02:33:09,840
all of the blame on my English. Uh

3472
02:33:09,101 --> 02:33:12,560
[laughter]

3473
02:33:09,840 --> 02:33:14,960
so thank you. It is your time, Sylvia.

3474
02:33:12,560 --> 02:33:16,479
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. This is uh as you

3475
02:33:14,960 --> 02:33:19,920
mentioned, the arts council briefing,

3476
02:33:16,479 --> 02:33:22,720
which is a division of the community and

3477
02:33:19,920 --> 02:33:25,920
neighborhood development department.

3478
02:33:22,720 --> 02:33:28,399
This division supports, local artists,

3479
02:33:25,920 --> 02:33:30,080
arts organizations, and cultural

3480
02:33:28,399 --> 02:33:32,319
programs.

3481
02:33:30,080 --> 02:33:35,439
Um, it is funded through the general

3482
02:33:32,319 --> 02:33:37,520
fund and arts foundation contributions

3483
02:33:35,439 --> 02:33:40,479
and includes nine full-time employees

3484
02:33:37,520 --> 02:33:43,040
plus part-time and seasonal staff.

3485
02:33:40,479 --> 02:33:45,120
The proposed budget for the arts council

3486
02:33:43,040 --> 02:33:48,760
is 1,ion200,

3487
02:33:45,120 --> 02:33:48,760
excuse me, 1,275,844,

3488
02:33:49,200 --> 02:33:57,520
which is a reduction of 5.8%

3489
02:33:52,720 --> 02:33:59,840
as compared to fiscal year 2026.

3490
02:33:57,520 --> 02:34:02,399
As a result of proposed cuts, the

3491
02:33:59,840 --> 02:34:04,960
division may need to consider cancelling

3492
02:34:02,399 --> 02:34:07,359
smaller programming events, which Tammy

3493
02:34:04,960 --> 02:34:09,760
just mentioned in the CAN budget, and

3494
02:34:07,359 --> 02:34:12,640
Felicia or Laurel will address in their

3495
02:34:09,760 --> 02:34:14,960
presentation. the arts council, the CAN

3496
02:34:12,640 --> 02:34:16,960
department, the mayor's office provided

3497
02:34:14,960 --> 02:34:21,040
information during small group meetings

3498
02:34:16,960 --> 02:34:23,840
and transmitts earlier this year uh in

3499
02:34:21,040 --> 02:34:26,080
response to council member questions and

3500
02:34:23,840 --> 02:34:28,319
the adoption of a legislative intent to

3501
02:34:26,080 --> 02:34:31,359
review the arts council's funding,

3502
02:34:28,319 --> 02:34:34,160
programming, and priorities.

3503
02:34:31,359 --> 02:34:37,280
And with that, I'd like to turn the time

3504
02:34:34,160 --> 02:34:39,760
over to Felicia and Laurel.

3505
02:34:37,280 --> 02:34:41,840
» Thanks, Sylvia. Um, thank you all for

3506
02:34:39,760 --> 02:34:43,920
having us here and I want to thank some

3507
02:34:41,840 --> 02:34:47,120
of our board members and staff for being

3508
02:34:43,920 --> 02:34:48,960
present. Um, we know this is a year with

3509
02:34:47,120 --> 02:34:51,120
really difficult decisions for the

3510
02:34:48,960 --> 02:34:55,120
administration and council and I want to

3511
02:34:51,120 --> 02:34:57,120
just say as of this organization for the

3512
02:34:55,120 --> 02:34:59,359
past eight years. Um, we've had a lot of

3513
02:34:57,120 --> 02:35:01,840
conversations about how we do things and

3514
02:34:59,359 --> 02:35:05,200
what we facilitate, but I have never

3515
02:35:01,840 --> 02:35:08,160
once had to doubt the administration or

3516
02:35:05,200 --> 02:35:10,560
council's belief in the power of arts as

3517
02:35:08,160 --> 02:35:12,880
essential to the social, cultural, and

3518
02:35:10,560 --> 02:35:14,800
economic fabric of our city. And um,

3519
02:35:12,880 --> 02:35:17,760
this isn't the case everywhere and we

3520
02:35:14,800 --> 02:35:19,680
never take this for granted. Um, we've

3521
02:35:17,760 --> 02:35:21,359
had a banner year and we're so excited

3522
02:35:19,680 --> 02:35:23,040
to share it with you today. Um

3523
02:35:21,359 --> 02:35:25,359
throughout this presentation we'll refer

3524
02:35:23,040 --> 02:35:30,359
to a number of items in your transmittal

3525
02:35:25,359 --> 02:35:30,359
and council questions. Next slide.

3526
02:35:32,479 --> 02:35:36,880
Um this year we completed a public

3527
02:35:34,479 --> 02:35:39,280
private partnership that raised $1.4 4

3528
02:35:36,880 --> 02:35:42,640
million including the largest singular

3529
02:35:39,280 --> 02:35:46,000
grant to our organization for public art

3530
02:35:42,640 --> 02:35:48,319
with over 100,000 attendees, 13 projects

3531
02:35:46,000 --> 02:35:50,880
in every city council district and over

3532
02:35:48,319 --> 02:35:53,439
50 events and broad international press

3533
02:35:50,880 --> 02:35:55,760
including the New York Times. We started

3534
02:35:53,439 --> 02:35:58,160
eight Capitol Public Art projects this

3535
02:35:55,760 --> 02:36:00,399
year, more than any year in the last

3536
02:35:58,160 --> 02:36:02,880
decade, with many more in progress and

3537
02:36:00,399 --> 02:36:05,040
more on that later. We were selected as

3538
02:36:02,880 --> 02:36:06,720
a national partner of the Smithsonian

3539
02:36:05,040 --> 02:36:09,120
Folk Life Festival for Living

3540
02:36:06,720 --> 02:36:11,200
Traditions, the nation's most renowned

3541
02:36:09,120 --> 02:36:12,960
folk festival, and tripled our

3542
02:36:11,200 --> 02:36:15,680
fundraising goals. And we hope you'll

3543
02:36:12,960 --> 02:36:18,000
all join us starting tomorrow. Despite

3544
02:36:15,680 --> 02:36:19,680
higher venue costs and reduced capacity

3545
02:36:18,000 --> 02:36:22,880
during the transition to the Civic

3546
02:36:19,680 --> 02:36:26,240
Center, the Twilight Concert Series,

3547
02:36:22,880 --> 02:36:29,120
an 8% increase in ticket sales from 2024

3548
02:36:26,240 --> 02:36:31,760
to 2025. The series continues to

3549
02:36:29,120 --> 02:36:33,359
activate downtown and the civic campus

3550
02:36:31,760 --> 02:36:35,120
while remaining affordable and

3551
02:36:33,359 --> 02:36:37,280
accessible to residents who might not

3552
02:36:35,120 --> 02:36:39,359
otherwise have the opportunity.

3553
02:36:37,280 --> 02:36:41,680
According to an economic impact study

3554
02:36:39,359 --> 02:36:44,560
last season, the series generated more

3555
02:36:41,680 --> 02:36:47,040
than $1.6 $6 million in downtown

3556
02:36:44,560 --> 02:36:49,520
economic activity, continued to support

3557
02:36:47,040 --> 02:36:51,600
the careers of local emerging artists,

3558
02:36:49,520 --> 02:36:53,840
and even drew a surprise appearance from

3559
02:36:51,600 --> 02:36:57,439
Post Malone, whose tickets are an

3560
02:36:53,840 --> 02:37:00,240
average of $150 to $700 in Salt Lake

3561
02:36:57,439 --> 02:37:02,720
City right now. As part of our continued

3562
02:37:00,240 --> 02:37:05,040
goals to reach new residents, this is

3563
02:37:02,720 --> 02:37:07,520
evidenced by 23% of our grant

3564
02:37:05,040 --> 02:37:09,920
applications being new firsttime

3565
02:37:07,520 --> 02:37:12,000
applicants. And [snorts] lastly, at the

3566
02:37:09,920 --> 02:37:14,399
council's request, we conducted a review

3567
02:37:12,000 --> 02:37:16,479
of annual mural production in five

3568
02:37:14,399 --> 02:37:19,359
comparable cities and found that our

3569
02:37:16,479 --> 02:37:21,680
program produced 33% more murals than

3570
02:37:19,359 --> 02:37:26,840
the cities included in the comparison.

3571
02:37:21,680 --> 02:37:26,840
And more to come on that. Next slide.

3572
02:37:27,040 --> 02:37:30,640
We just because we're an arts

3573
02:37:28,640 --> 02:37:33,840
organization wanted to share some images

3574
02:37:30,640 --> 02:37:35,840
of what we do. This is Olifer Aliasen's

3575
02:37:33,840 --> 02:37:37,600
uh Symphony of Disappearing Sounds of

3576
02:37:35,840 --> 02:37:40,319
the Great Salt Lake at Memory Grove,

3577
02:37:37,600 --> 02:37:42,880
which served 25,000 diverse residents,

3578
02:37:40,319 --> 02:37:44,960
the Living Traditions Festival, and then

3579
02:37:42,880 --> 02:37:49,240
one of our public art projects, Life on

3580
02:37:44,960 --> 02:37:49,240
State, serving emerging artists.

3581
02:37:49,760 --> 02:37:53,000
Next slide.

3582
02:37:53,040 --> 02:37:57,520
uh our Twilight concert series with our

3583
02:37:55,439 --> 02:38:00,240
appearance from Post Malone, our new

3584
02:37:57,520 --> 02:38:02,720
ballpark mural program and um bike rack

3585
02:38:00,240 --> 02:38:05,720
murals in the foothill trails. Next

3586
02:38:02,720 --> 02:38:05,720
slide.

3587
02:38:06,160 --> 02:38:12,080
This is a image of some of the programs

3588
02:38:08,640 --> 02:38:15,920
that our city project grants support

3589
02:38:12,080 --> 02:38:17,680
murals at Liberty Park and a park um or

3590
02:38:15,920 --> 02:38:21,800
a public art project in the fair park

3591
02:38:17,680 --> 02:38:21,800
that was recent. Next slide.

3592
02:38:21,840 --> 02:38:25,760
So from our conversations last year and

3593
02:38:24,000 --> 02:38:27,439
for those of you that might be newer, we

3594
02:38:25,760 --> 02:38:29,359
thought it would be good to res revisit

3595
02:38:27,439 --> 02:38:31,760
our organization's structure as it

3596
02:38:29,359 --> 02:38:33,920
relates to the budget. A go we are a

3597
02:38:31,760 --> 02:38:35,520
governmental nonprofit as defined by

3598
02:38:33,920 --> 02:38:37,439
state code, which is an independent

3599
02:38:35,520 --> 02:38:40,160
nonprofit that receives most of its

3600
02:38:37,439 --> 02:38:43,200
funding from various public entities. We

3601
02:38:40,160 --> 02:38:45,439
were created in 1976 as a missionalign

3602
02:38:43,200 --> 02:38:47,280
nonprofit advancing shared civic goals

3603
02:38:45,439 --> 02:38:50,160
while maximizing and leveraging public

3604
02:38:47,280 --> 02:38:52,319
and private investment. In 2020, the

3605
02:38:50,160 --> 02:38:54,399
structure was re-evaluated and Salt Lake

3606
02:38:52,319 --> 02:38:56,000
City reaffirmed the implementation and

3607
02:38:54,399 --> 02:38:57,680
impact of this structure with the

3608
02:38:56,000 --> 02:38:59,600
administration and move forward to

3609
02:38:57,680 --> 02:39:02,560
fortify it with an annual operating

3610
02:38:59,600 --> 02:39:04,160
agreement and public benefit analysis.

3611
02:39:02,560 --> 02:39:05,840
We are governed by this operating

3612
02:39:04,160 --> 02:39:08,080
agreement with Salt Lake City in a

3613
02:39:05,840 --> 02:39:10,399
non-EP departmental contract. We undergo

3614
02:39:08,080 --> 02:39:12,479
an annual um independent audit that's

3615
02:39:10,399 --> 02:39:14,240
integrated into the city's audit and we

3616
02:39:12,479 --> 02:39:16,399
report and are accountable to state,

3617
02:39:14,240 --> 02:39:18,960
county, and federal entities as well as

3618
02:39:16,399 --> 02:39:21,680
several other private foundations. We

3619
02:39:18,960 --> 02:39:24,399
have 64 private funders across our

3620
02:39:21,680 --> 02:39:26,560
programs. This year to really simplify

3621
02:39:24,399 --> 02:39:28,640
this structure, it looks like two arms.

3622
02:39:26,560 --> 02:39:30,479
The Arts Council Foundation operates

3623
02:39:28,640 --> 02:39:32,479
programs including the Finch Lane

3624
02:39:30,479 --> 02:39:34,720
Gallery, Living Traditions, Busker

3625
02:39:32,479 --> 02:39:37,120
Festival, Poet Laurette, City Arts

3626
02:39:34,720 --> 02:39:39,439
Grant, among others. And we also support

3627
02:39:37,120 --> 02:39:42,319
non-C capital components of public art

3628
02:39:39,439 --> 02:39:44,560
here. City public art funding rests on

3629
02:39:42,319 --> 02:39:47,040
the city side of operations and includes

3630
02:39:44,560 --> 02:39:48,960
CIP funding as well as the facilitation

3631
02:39:47,040 --> 02:39:52,800
of many other funds for public art

3632
02:39:48,960 --> 02:39:55,200
outside our division. Next slide.

3633
02:39:52,800 --> 02:39:57,760
Part of this oversight structure is two

3634
02:39:55,200 --> 02:40:00,240
primary boards. The Arts Council Board

3635
02:39:57,760 --> 02:40:02,720
oversees foundation policy, budget, and

3636
02:40:00,240 --> 02:40:04,800
strategic oversight and acts as an

3637
02:40:02,720 --> 02:40:06,560
advisory body to the city and mayor on

3638
02:40:04,800 --> 02:40:08,319
arts. And the art design board

3639
02:40:06,560 --> 02:40:11,600
recommends public art projects for

3640
02:40:08,319 --> 02:40:14,600
mayoral approval by ordinance. Next

3641
02:40:11,600 --> 02:40:14,600
slide.

3642
02:40:15,760 --> 02:40:19,600
So with the non-EP departmental funding

3643
02:40:17,680 --> 02:40:21,840
that we receive, we think about it as

3644
02:40:19,600 --> 02:40:24,640
going into three different buckets. the

3645
02:40:21,840 --> 02:40:26,160
city arts grants, the public programming

3646
02:40:24,640 --> 02:40:27,520
which we've talked about which includes

3647
02:40:26,160 --> 02:40:29,840
things like living traditions and

3648
02:40:27,520 --> 02:40:33,600
twilight and busker and then facility

3649
02:40:29,840 --> 02:40:35,439
maintenance of our beloved little 1930

3650
02:40:33,600 --> 02:40:39,160
uh home.

3651
02:40:35,439 --> 02:40:39,160
Next slide please.

3652
02:40:40,000 --> 02:40:46,319
We raise on average and we're really

3653
02:40:42,240 --> 02:40:48,800
proud of this 30 cents on every taxpayer

3654
02:40:46,319 --> 02:40:53,040
dollar except for the last four or five

3655
02:40:48,800 --> 02:40:56,800
years we've raised 55 to 65 uh% of our

3656
02:40:53,040 --> 02:40:59,680
total budget and we again we have over

3657
02:40:56,800 --> 02:41:04,359
64 private funders for our programming

3658
02:40:59,680 --> 02:41:04,359
this year. Next slide.

3659
02:41:04,800 --> 02:41:08,880
We are examining a number of strategies

3660
02:41:06,880 --> 02:41:10,479
to incorporate the budget cut and those

3661
02:41:08,880 --> 02:41:13,920
have already been discussed a couple of

3662
02:41:10,479 --> 02:41:16,240
times today. Uh we are looking at

3663
02:41:13,920 --> 02:41:18,640
cutting the bus busker festival which

3664
02:41:16,240 --> 02:41:21,040
happens at the end of May. Jordan River

3665
02:41:18,640 --> 02:41:23,920
strolls is a part of this program.

3666
02:41:21,040 --> 02:41:26,000
Mondays in the park the city arts grants

3667
02:41:23,920 --> 02:41:28,880
could see a reduction and other

3668
02:41:26,000 --> 02:41:31,439
supplemental public art would be just

3669
02:41:28,880 --> 02:41:34,560
the outreach that happens align aligned

3670
02:41:31,439 --> 02:41:36,560
with that. uh we will work hard to

3671
02:41:34,560 --> 02:41:39,439
maintain the service levels and quality

3672
02:41:36,560 --> 02:41:42,080
that we have. Uh the criteria that we

3673
02:41:39,439 --> 02:41:44,880
are considering is in the orange box. We

3674
02:41:42,080 --> 02:41:47,760
are preserving programs with high impact

3675
02:41:44,880 --> 02:41:49,520
of heart of artists and public served.

3676
02:41:47,760 --> 02:41:52,319
We're maintaining diversity of

3677
02:41:49,520 --> 02:41:54,399
programming to preserve grant funders.

3678
02:41:52,319 --> 02:41:56,720
We are preserving revenue generating

3679
02:41:54,399 --> 02:41:58,720
programs. We will consider

3680
02:41:56,720 --> 02:42:01,520
recommendations of course from you and

3681
02:41:58,720 --> 02:42:04,000
from our board uh based on our strategic

3682
02:42:01,520 --> 02:42:06,399
plan. We will consider eliminating

3683
02:42:04,000 --> 02:42:08,399
programs with escalating costs in the

3684
02:42:06,399 --> 02:42:10,399
future and we are considering what other

3685
02:42:08,399 --> 02:42:13,840
services are being provided with similar

3686
02:42:10,399 --> 02:42:17,040
offerings extern external to the city.

3687
02:42:13,840 --> 02:42:19,760
Next slide.

3688
02:42:17,040 --> 02:42:21,120
So, we also uh wanted to talk about our

3689
02:42:19,760 --> 02:42:25,040
public funding because our public

3690
02:42:21,120 --> 02:42:26,720
funding makes up about 30% of our raised

3691
02:42:25,040 --> 02:42:30,399
dollars.

3692
02:42:26,720 --> 02:42:33,600
So, we get a significant grant from the

3693
02:42:30,399 --> 02:42:36,080
zoo arts and parks fund. Uh the zoo arts

3694
02:42:33,600 --> 02:42:38,960
and parks fund has two tiers and we are

3695
02:42:36,080 --> 02:42:42,720
in the tier one group and the tier one

3696
02:42:38,960 --> 02:42:44,960
group uh make up the the largest of the

3697
02:42:42,720 --> 02:42:48,080
cultural entities in this in the city.

3698
02:42:44,960 --> 02:42:50,399
For example, um Utah Museum of Fine

3699
02:42:48,080 --> 02:42:52,960
Arts, Tracy Aviary, Redbute Gardens are

3700
02:42:50,399 --> 02:42:56,160
all tier one organizations. We are the

3701
02:42:52,960 --> 02:42:59,120
only local arts agency which is a spec

3702
02:42:56,160 --> 02:43:01,359
special designation within that tier.

3703
02:42:59,120 --> 02:43:04,399
And in terms of the formula for the way

3704
02:43:01,359 --> 02:43:06,399
tier one organizations are funded, it's

3705
02:43:04,399 --> 02:43:09,600
based on two things. It's based on a on

3706
02:43:06,399 --> 02:43:12,560
a qualifying expenditure and then the

3707
02:43:09,600 --> 02:43:14,800
services that we offer. They do look at

3708
02:43:12,560 --> 02:43:16,560
the narrative that we provide on the on

3709
02:43:14,800 --> 02:43:20,399
the diversity of the programs that we

3710
02:43:16,560 --> 02:43:24,000
offer. And this year we uh got about

3711
02:43:20,399 --> 02:43:25,600
$215,000 in that grant. The Utah

3712
02:43:24,000 --> 02:43:28,000
Division of Arts and Museums is the

3713
02:43:25,600 --> 02:43:30,960
state funding and we are defined as the

3714
02:43:28,000 --> 02:43:34,240
only local arts agency within Salt Lake

3715
02:43:30,960 --> 02:43:36,160
City. Uh the state defines a local arts

3716
02:43:34,240 --> 02:43:38,479
agency as an agency that provides

3717
02:43:36,160 --> 02:43:40,640
diverse programming and also can provide

3718
02:43:38,479 --> 02:43:43,040
grants, short-term policy create

3719
02:43:40,640 --> 02:43:46,560
supporting policy creation and public

3720
02:43:43,040 --> 02:43:49,359
art. The this LAA status could change if

3721
02:43:46,560 --> 02:43:51,279
we had large shifts in our mission and

3722
02:43:49,359 --> 02:43:54,000
funding could be the basis for a reduced

3723
02:43:51,279 --> 02:43:56,160
grant award. If we were to significantly

3724
02:43:54,000 --> 02:43:58,800
change the breadth of our programming or

3725
02:43:56,160 --> 02:44:01,840
serve considerably fewer residents, that

3726
02:43:58,800 --> 02:44:03,760
could also impact our award.

3727
02:44:01,840 --> 02:44:07,680
Additionally, the state is already

3728
02:44:03,760 --> 02:44:10,720
anticipating a reduction in their FY27

3729
02:44:07,680 --> 02:44:12,640
general operating support grants of 30%

3730
02:44:10,720 --> 02:44:14,880
due to a change in the funding that the

3731
02:44:12,640 --> 02:44:16,880
state received from that the state

3732
02:44:14,880 --> 02:44:18,800
received from the legislature. And

3733
02:44:16,880 --> 02:44:23,200
that's going to result in approximately

3734
02:44:18,800 --> 02:44:25,920
a $14,000 cut to us this year.

3735
02:44:23,200 --> 02:44:27,840
Uh we received federal funding. Uh it's

3736
02:44:25,920 --> 02:44:30,240
a grant specifically for the Living

3737
02:44:27,840 --> 02:44:32,319
Traditions Festival and the federal

3738
02:44:30,240 --> 02:44:35,760
administration under President Trump has

3739
02:44:32,319 --> 02:44:37,920
again uh requested or proposed complete

3740
02:44:35,760 --> 02:44:39,520
elimination of the National Endowment

3741
02:44:37,920 --> 02:44:42,960
for the Arts which is where that funding

3742
02:44:39,520 --> 02:44:46,479
comes from. We're hopeful that this will

3743
02:44:42,960 --> 02:44:49,439
be uh again a bipartisan supported

3744
02:44:46,479 --> 02:44:52,240
National Endowment for the Arts uh

3745
02:44:49,439 --> 02:44:54,160
effort and and that it has it has

3746
02:44:52,240 --> 02:44:55,840
survived previous cuts. We are hopeful

3747
02:44:54,160 --> 02:44:58,560
it will survive this uh this

3748
02:44:55,840 --> 02:45:01,760
recommendation. Uh and in recent years

3749
02:44:58,560 --> 02:45:03,439
we have averaged between 25 20 to

3750
02:45:01,760 --> 02:45:05,840
$45,000.

3751
02:45:03,439 --> 02:45:08,240
So we are hoping to again see something

3752
02:45:05,840 --> 02:45:11,680
like that next year.

3753
02:45:08,240 --> 02:45:14,479
Uh it's also important to know that all

3754
02:45:11,680 --> 02:45:17,120
this government funding uh these sources

3755
02:45:14,479 --> 02:45:19,279
compose again 30% of our non-EP

3756
02:45:17,120 --> 02:45:21,200
departmental funds but we are pro

3757
02:45:19,279 --> 02:45:24,399
prohibited from spending any of these

3758
02:45:21,200 --> 02:45:26,000
grant funds on public capital expend

3759
02:45:24,399 --> 02:45:29,319
expenditures.

3760
02:45:26,000 --> 02:45:29,319
Next slide.

3761
02:45:30,399 --> 02:45:35,439
Now, we're going to transition to

3762
02:45:31,840 --> 02:45:37,120
focusing specific on public art um

3763
02:45:35,439 --> 02:45:40,080
centered on some of our conversations

3764
02:45:37,120 --> 02:45:43,279
that we've hope had over the last year.

3765
02:45:40,080 --> 02:45:45,760
Um so again coming the Japan town mural,

3766
02:45:43,279 --> 02:45:48,800
the new u mural to come on out of the

3767
02:45:45,760 --> 02:45:53,080
blue and then the another image of the

3768
02:45:48,800 --> 02:45:53,080
ballpark murals. Next slide.

3769
02:45:53,120 --> 02:45:57,760
So in this slide, as you can see, we

3770
02:45:55,439 --> 02:46:00,160
partner and leverage many funds in the

3771
02:45:57,760 --> 02:46:03,359
city for public art, and investment in

3772
02:46:00,160 --> 02:46:05,920
dollars has been steadily increasing. As

3773
02:46:03,359 --> 02:46:08,080
I mentioned, in FY26, we started more

3774
02:46:05,920 --> 02:46:10,960
individual projects than in any past

3775
02:46:08,080 --> 02:46:13,600
decade with over 15 projects or so in

3776
02:46:10,960 --> 02:46:15,359
process right now. And we also created a

3777
02:46:13,600 --> 02:46:19,120
very much needed maintenance fund in

3778
02:46:15,359 --> 02:46:21,760
2022. Um, please note in this chart that

3779
02:46:19,120 --> 02:46:23,920
percent for art funding is in red. So,

3780
02:46:21,760 --> 02:46:26,160
this is the only fund within our own

3781
02:46:23,920 --> 02:46:28,560
budget, the jurisdiction of our own

3782
02:46:26,160 --> 02:46:30,720
budget. Um, we're incredibly grateful to

3783
02:46:28,560 --> 02:46:32,800
all our partners in the CRA and public

3784
02:46:30,720 --> 02:46:34,560
lands and enterprise funds and many

3785
02:46:32,800 --> 02:46:36,800
others that support these efforts in the

3786
02:46:34,560 --> 02:46:40,240
city for us to facil facilitate as an

3787
02:46:36,800 --> 02:46:42,080
agency on our behalf. Um, and that CIP

3788
02:46:40,240 --> 02:46:44,000
funding, you'll see it here, distributed

3789
02:46:42,080 --> 02:46:45,840
in the in the year that the project

3790
02:46:44,000 --> 02:46:47,359
starts, but again, we're looking at, I

3791
02:46:45,840 --> 02:46:49,760
believe this year we were at about

3792
02:46:47,359 --> 02:46:52,720
$151,000.

3793
02:46:49,760 --> 02:46:52,720
Next [snorts] slide.

3794
02:46:53,439 --> 02:46:57,680
So, we're gonna Oh, you [laughter]

3795
02:46:56,080 --> 02:46:59,920
» Get to I get to share the good news

3796
02:46:57,680 --> 02:47:03,520
about the murals and the challenge that

3797
02:46:59,920 --> 02:47:05,120
you gave us to look at our uh the cities

3798
02:47:03,520 --> 02:47:07,680
that surround us and some of the things

3799
02:47:05,120 --> 02:47:11,279
that are that have been done there. This

3800
02:47:07,680 --> 02:47:13,359
is a photo of the of one of the uh

3801
02:47:11,279 --> 02:47:17,279
murals in the ballpark, the 10 murals

3802
02:47:13,359 --> 02:47:20,560
that were uh were um commissioned this

3803
02:47:17,279 --> 02:47:22,399
fall. Next slide.

3804
02:47:20,560 --> 02:47:25,520
So, we're actually really grateful that

3805
02:47:22,399 --> 02:47:27,920
you invited us to look at uh what uh

3806
02:47:25,520 --> 02:47:30,800
other mural programs are doing uh and

3807
02:47:27,920 --> 02:47:34,319
how we could aspire to them. Uh because

3808
02:47:30,800 --> 02:47:36,479
we are thrilled to share that we are

3809
02:47:34,319 --> 02:47:38,800
actually doing really well in terms of

3810
02:47:36,479 --> 02:47:41,840
our of of comparisons.

3811
02:47:38,800 --> 02:47:45,120
uh we looked at five Utah cities and we

3812
02:47:41,840 --> 02:47:48,560
had 33% more murals in terms of the

3813
02:47:45,120 --> 02:47:52,640
annual murals produced uh in that report

3814
02:47:48,560 --> 02:47:54,479
done by an outside uh consultant. Um so

3815
02:47:52,640 --> 02:47:56,080
this slide highlights some of the murals

3816
02:47:54,479 --> 02:47:58,399
that are complete and some that are in

3817
02:47:56,080 --> 02:48:01,040
progress. So uh we partnered with Love

3818
02:47:58,399 --> 02:48:04,880
Your Block and in your meeting materials

3819
02:48:01,040 --> 02:48:06,880
there are photos of some of these of the

3820
02:48:04,880 --> 02:48:11,600
Love Your Blocks murals from the last

3821
02:48:06,880 --> 02:48:14,479
year. Uh the 33% higher number doesn't

3822
02:48:11,600 --> 02:48:16,319
include any of the photo any of those

3823
02:48:14,479 --> 02:48:18,319
love your block projects although we

3824
02:48:16,319 --> 02:48:20,160
love working with love your blocks and

3825
02:48:18,319 --> 02:48:21,439
we do collaborate with them. We just

3826
02:48:20,160 --> 02:48:26,960
wanted to make sure you were aware of

3827
02:48:21,439 --> 02:48:29,680
those. Uh we adapted our grants program

3828
02:48:26,960 --> 02:48:32,160
in order to fast track a funding tool

3829
02:48:29,680 --> 02:48:34,720
for murals through the grants and this

3830
02:48:32,160 --> 02:48:37,439
year we had four murals funded through

3831
02:48:34,720 --> 02:48:40,160
that. And then in yellow you can see the

3832
02:48:37,439 --> 02:48:42,880
murals that were completed this year. Uh

3833
02:48:40,160 --> 02:48:47,279
we had one uh permanent with Bloomberg

3834
02:48:42,880 --> 02:48:50,960
and uh two temporary murals. Uh we had

3835
02:48:47,279 --> 02:48:53,680
the 10 ballpark murals and then we had

3836
02:48:50,960 --> 02:48:55,760
the blocks mural that we partnered with.

3837
02:48:53,680 --> 02:48:58,160
Uh we have that we are coming up this

3838
02:48:55,760 --> 02:49:00,000
year. We have Japan Town that was

3839
02:48:58,160 --> 02:49:03,279
recently announced and it was in an

3840
02:49:00,000 --> 02:49:06,319
earlier slide. Uh we have the pop the

3841
02:49:03,279 --> 02:49:08,240
Popular Grove pickle ball court. We have

3842
02:49:06,319 --> 02:49:10,880
the Jordan River Parkway is going to be

3843
02:49:08,240 --> 02:49:14,399
receiving four murals. North Temple will

3844
02:49:10,880 --> 02:49:15,920
be receiving six murals. And then uh I

3845
02:49:14,399 --> 02:49:18,080
know it's a different surface, but out

3846
02:49:15,920 --> 02:49:19,840
of the blue, the whale is going to get a

3847
02:49:18,080 --> 02:49:24,479
a facelift and that is considered a

3848
02:49:19,840 --> 02:49:25,920
mural as well. Uh and then we also are

3849
02:49:24,479 --> 02:49:27,200
working on donations. So, I'm going to

3850
02:49:25,920 --> 02:49:29,359
talk a little bit more about that, but

3851
02:49:27,200 --> 02:49:32,240
we are in the process of uh accepting

3852
02:49:29,359 --> 02:49:33,600
the rack into our collection

3853
02:49:32,240 --> 02:49:35,920
or the rack collective into our

3854
02:49:33,600 --> 02:49:36,560
collection. Okay, next slide.

3855
02:49:35,920 --> 02:49:38,319
» One quick question.

3856
02:49:36,560 --> 02:49:40,479
» Just one quick question. Uh mostly for

3857
02:49:38,319 --> 02:49:42,160
bragging rights. Uh you said you

3858
02:49:40,479 --> 02:49:44,640
compared uh Salt Lake City mural

3859
02:49:42,160 --> 02:49:46,479
production to five peer cities. What

3860
02:49:44,640 --> 02:49:48,560
were those five peer cities?

3861
02:49:46,479 --> 02:49:50,880
» We like bragging rights, too. Uh so we

3862
02:49:48,560 --> 02:49:53,040
have South Salt Lake, Murray, Midvale,

3863
02:49:50,880 --> 02:49:54,880
Provo, and

3864
02:49:53,040 --> 02:49:55,520
I'm blanking. Uh,

3865
02:49:54,880 --> 02:49:56,960
» It's in your cap.

3866
02:49:55,520 --> 02:49:59,760
» Ogden. Did you say Ogden?

3867
02:49:56,960 --> 02:50:02,399
» No, I did say Ogden. So, Ogden. I'm glad

3868
02:49:59,760 --> 02:50:04,560
that somebody smarter here is good.

3869
02:50:02,399 --> 02:50:05,840
» What was the total of murals that you

3870
02:50:04,560 --> 02:50:09,600
you're using?

3871
02:50:05,840 --> 02:50:12,479
» Uh, those cities had a total annual

3872
02:50:09,600 --> 02:50:14,399
production of 12 at its highest point

3873
02:50:12,479 --> 02:50:15,760
annually. Collectively, they have more

3874
02:50:14,399 --> 02:50:18,479
than that because some of them have had

3875
02:50:15,760 --> 02:50:20,560
programs in the past, but of recent year

3876
02:50:18,479 --> 02:50:22,960
totals, 12 is the most. And so again,

3877
02:50:20,560 --> 02:50:24,880
ours were 33% higher, but not including

3878
02:50:22,960 --> 02:50:26,720
any of the love your block efforts or

3879
02:50:24,880 --> 02:50:28,399
even the facade improvement program that

3880
02:50:26,720 --> 02:50:30,000
we partner with in the city.

3881
02:50:28,399 --> 02:50:32,000
» Yeah. So you're comparing you're

3882
02:50:30,000 --> 02:50:33,600
comparing how many murals they're

3883
02:50:32,000 --> 02:50:35,040
producing is per

3884
02:50:33,600 --> 02:50:37,439
» Just a total number. Yes.

3885
02:50:35,040 --> 02:50:39,279
» Yeah. Yeah. And you know, SA Lake is the

3886
02:50:37,439 --> 02:50:40,880
size of a council district actually

3887
02:50:39,279 --> 02:50:42,240
smaller than a council district here,

3888
02:50:40,880 --> 02:50:45,040
right? And they're creating 10 every

3889
02:50:42,240 --> 02:50:46,880
year. But that is a good point of

3890
02:50:45,040 --> 02:50:47,760
comparison. I like where the trend that

3891
02:50:46,880 --> 02:50:50,399
we're we're seeing.

3892
02:50:47,760 --> 02:50:52,479
» Yeah. And they do have um a really high

3893
02:50:50,399 --> 02:50:55,120
quantity uh geography and kind of

3894
02:50:52,479 --> 02:50:58,000
physical landscape is important. High

3895
02:50:55,120 --> 02:51:00,240
high um quantity of light industrial

3896
02:50:58,000 --> 02:51:01,840
manufacturing buildings and less

3897
02:51:00,240 --> 02:51:04,479
buildings that have historical

3898
02:51:01,840 --> 02:51:06,640
requirements not to be painted or uh

3899
02:51:04,479 --> 02:51:09,680
property owners that um are vigilant

3900
02:51:06,640 --> 02:51:11,520
about um not having murals that may be

3901
02:51:09,680 --> 02:51:13,120
beloved and that are torn down that

3902
02:51:11,520 --> 02:51:15,120
affects development. So there's some

3903
02:51:13,120 --> 02:51:16,640
factors that are hard to compare there.

3904
02:51:15,120 --> 02:51:19,200
» Yeah.

3905
02:51:16,640 --> 02:51:22,960
Uh the next slide is was taken this

3906
02:51:19,200 --> 02:51:26,479
week. Uh this is Cosmo and Cosmo is uh

3907
02:51:22,960 --> 02:51:28,560
in his new home. I think it's a a he is

3908
02:51:26,479 --> 02:51:31,120
in his new home and we are really

3909
02:51:28,560 --> 02:51:33,359
thrilled that he is uh that he's landed

3910
02:51:31,120 --> 02:51:35,680
and and there's some fun stuff coming up

3911
02:51:33,359 --> 02:51:38,640
with uh announcing that as well. Next

3912
02:51:35,680 --> 02:51:40,960
slide.

3913
02:51:38,640 --> 02:51:43,359
So we have received feedback this year

3914
02:51:40,960 --> 02:51:45,359
that there uh that we could do better

3915
02:51:43,359 --> 02:51:47,439
and we are trying to do faster more and

3916
02:51:45,359 --> 02:51:49,439
better. Uh but we are trying to

3917
02:51:47,439 --> 02:51:52,479
streamline some processes to make our

3918
02:51:49,439 --> 02:51:54,720
public art processes more accessible. Uh

3919
02:51:52,479 --> 02:51:55,840
and I want to just walk you through a

3920
02:51:54,720 --> 02:51:58,399
few of the things that we've been

3921
02:51:55,840 --> 02:52:00,080
working on. So we facilitated more

3922
02:51:58,399 --> 02:52:02,560
donations of artwork to the city. We've

3923
02:52:00,080 --> 02:52:04,240
talked about Cosmo and the rack. We also

3924
02:52:02,560 --> 02:52:06,240
uh are happy that down the hall we have

3925
02:52:04,240 --> 02:52:09,760
Martha Hughes Cannon now living in this

3926
02:52:06,240 --> 02:52:12,080
building. Uh we and this is a a

3927
02:52:09,760 --> 02:52:16,160
statutory process for accepting a

3928
02:52:12,080 --> 02:52:18,640
donation. Um, next we have drafted city

3929
02:52:16,160 --> 02:52:20,560
a citywide guide for internal

3930
02:52:18,640 --> 02:52:22,319
departments and community members to aid

3931
02:52:20,560 --> 02:52:26,479
in the facilitation of community

3932
02:52:22,319 --> 02:52:29,120
sponsored public art. Uh, the 14 council

3933
02:52:26,479 --> 02:52:31,040
project or the $14,000

3934
02:52:29,120 --> 02:52:32,960
through the legislative intent in the

3935
02:52:31,040 --> 02:52:35,680
seven council districts is well underway

3936
02:52:32,960 --> 02:52:38,240
and it will be completed this year.

3937
02:52:35,680 --> 02:52:40,319
We are actively working to structure a

3938
02:52:38,240 --> 02:52:42,720
tri-governmental partnership with the

3939
02:52:40,319 --> 02:52:45,520
state and county to facilitate public

3940
02:52:42,720 --> 02:52:48,000
private partnership for public art to be

3941
02:52:45,520 --> 02:52:50,399
placed in Salt Lake City. And this uh

3942
02:52:48,000 --> 02:52:53,439
Robert Love Robert Indiana love

3943
02:52:50,399 --> 02:52:55,760
sculpture is an example of that effort.

3944
02:52:53,439 --> 02:52:59,120
We are currently working on both loaning

3945
02:52:55,760 --> 02:53:01,920
out and borrowing artwork at city hall.

3946
02:52:59,120 --> 02:53:03,920
And as a reminder, we are we helped

3947
02:53:01,920 --> 02:53:05,359
ensure the public benefit funding for

3948
02:53:03,920 --> 02:53:07,520
public art in the downtown

3949
02:53:05,359 --> 02:53:10,399
entertainment, cultural, and convention

3950
02:53:07,520 --> 02:53:13,520
district for public art in the coming

3951
02:53:10,399 --> 02:53:15,359
years totaling no less than $5 million.

3952
02:53:13,520 --> 02:53:18,760
So that is coming up as well. Next

3953
02:53:15,359 --> 02:53:18,760
slide, please.

3954
02:53:19,600 --> 02:53:24,000
So there's also a list contained in your

3955
02:53:22,319 --> 02:53:25,840
transmitt of ways that we're hoping to

3956
02:53:24,000 --> 02:53:27,520
work more closely together in the

3957
02:53:25,840 --> 02:53:29,760
future. But I wanted to share some

3958
02:53:27,520 --> 02:53:32,479
potential mechanisms that other larger

3959
02:53:29,760 --> 02:53:35,200
cities have in place that could be a

3960
02:53:32,479 --> 02:53:37,359
model for our city in the future when

3961
02:53:35,200 --> 02:53:40,080
they expand their public art programs.

3962
02:53:37,359 --> 02:53:42,800
These are tools um of course we'd have

3963
02:53:40,080 --> 02:53:44,880
to consider with our city family. Um we

3964
02:53:42,800 --> 02:53:48,000
could expand the percent for art program

3965
02:53:44,880 --> 02:53:49,680
to enterprise funds. Um right now we do

3966
02:53:48,000 --> 02:53:51,760
have that program that we partnered with

3967
02:53:49,680 --> 02:53:54,720
the CRA on and we could formalize it

3968
02:53:51,760 --> 02:53:56,160
with other enterprise funds. Um we do

3969
02:53:54,720 --> 02:53:58,000
not have a percent for art program

3970
02:53:56,160 --> 02:54:01,520
within the transportation or streets

3971
02:53:58,000 --> 02:54:02,960
budgets. Many cities do. Um there are

3972
02:54:01,520 --> 02:54:05,200
planning and development based

3973
02:54:02,960 --> 02:54:07,439
incentives that we could develop for

3974
02:54:05,200 --> 02:54:10,319
concessions on planning and zoning where

3975
02:54:07,439 --> 02:54:13,439
we could um require allocations for

3976
02:54:10,319 --> 02:54:15,680
public art. We do this with the CRA. Um,

3977
02:54:13,439 --> 02:54:18,880
many cities have impact fees with

3978
02:54:15,680 --> 02:54:20,560
required cultural allocations. And as we

3979
02:54:18,880 --> 02:54:22,560
build more business improvement

3980
02:54:20,560 --> 02:54:24,399
districts in the city, we have an

3981
02:54:22,560 --> 02:54:26,399
incredible partnership of course with

3982
02:54:24,399 --> 02:54:28,720
our downtown alliance, but for things

3983
02:54:26,399 --> 02:54:32,160
like Sugar House coming online, we can

3984
02:54:28,720 --> 02:54:35,439
um uh request requirements for cultural

3985
02:54:32,160 --> 02:54:37,439
uh programs in there. Next slide.

3986
02:54:35,439 --> 02:54:40,479
And looking ahead for the rest of the

3987
02:54:37,439 --> 02:54:42,800
budget year, um this is an installation

3988
02:54:40,479 --> 02:54:44,479
coming to Pioneer Park which states the

3989
02:54:42,800 --> 02:54:47,279
name of the park but when viewed from

3990
02:54:44,479 --> 02:54:50,000
other perspectives is modeled on uh

3991
02:54:47,279 --> 02:54:51,840
different languages and their various

3992
02:54:50,000 --> 02:54:55,080
patterns.

3993
02:54:51,840 --> 02:54:55,080
Next slide.

3994
02:54:55,279 --> 02:54:59,840
The following public art projects are

3995
02:54:57,040 --> 02:55:02,800
projected for completion in FY27 with

3996
02:54:59,840 --> 02:55:04,720
many more not listed here coming in 2028

3997
02:55:02,800 --> 02:55:07,279
like Fleet Block, Glendale, Fairmont,

3998
02:55:04,720 --> 02:55:09,840
and Mlen. But we'll have Pioneer Park,

3999
02:55:07,279 --> 02:55:12,720
the Donner Trail Park coming on, 20

4000
02:55:09,840 --> 02:55:14,640
sculptures in 20 different bond parks,

4001
02:55:12,720 --> 02:55:17,359
the reinstallation of the goals of Salt

4002
02:55:14,640 --> 02:55:21,840
Lake City with the CRA, and um again

4003
02:55:17,359 --> 02:55:24,000
many more projects. Next slide.

4004
02:55:21,840 --> 02:55:26,720
Other milestones for budget that we're

4005
02:55:24,000 --> 02:55:29,279
looking forward to is our CIP project

4006
02:55:26,720 --> 02:55:31,200
for the Finch Lane Gallery renovations,

4007
02:55:29,279 --> 02:55:33,439
launching the poet laurette program

4008
02:55:31,200 --> 02:55:35,520
fully reinvisioning the mayor's artist

4009
02:55:33,439 --> 02:55:38,560
awards in the 40th anniversary of our

4010
02:55:35,520 --> 02:55:40,399
twilight concert series. Um we're again

4011
02:55:38,560 --> 02:55:42,160
thankful to be here and looking forward

4012
02:55:40,399 --> 02:55:44,240
to working together more in the future

4013
02:55:42,160 --> 02:55:46,000
and um we appreciate the constructive

4014
02:55:44,240 --> 02:55:49,760
feedback that we've received and we're

4015
02:55:46,000 --> 02:55:52,920
happy to answer any questions.

4016
02:55:49,760 --> 02:55:52,920
some members.

4017
02:55:53,200 --> 02:55:58,560
President

4018
02:55:55,600 --> 02:56:02,560
» Appreciate all the work. Uh we all need

4019
02:55:58,560 --> 02:56:03,680
art. So, uh I I really do appreciate all

4020
02:56:02,560 --> 02:56:05,840
the work you're doing and and the

4021
02:56:03,680 --> 02:56:07,760
transformation from, you know, the

4022
02:56:05,840 --> 02:56:10,479
concerts right here on the civic center.

4023
02:56:07,760 --> 02:56:12,319
So, that's that was a great uh I mean, I

4024
02:56:10,479 --> 02:56:15,840
know we had to make the move, but it

4025
02:56:12,319 --> 02:56:18,399
also it seemed like it was uh still

4026
02:56:15,840 --> 02:56:20,319
great rep venue and it and it worked out

4027
02:56:18,399 --> 02:56:22,160
well. So, We were kind of worried there

4028
02:56:20,319 --> 02:56:23,680
a bit, but I'm appreciate for that. And

4029
02:56:22,160 --> 02:56:27,520
I and I also appreciate all the the

4030
02:56:23,680 --> 02:56:29,040
murals and the and the public art. Um,

4031
02:56:27,520 --> 02:56:30,560
you know, if you ever go to a city that

4032
02:56:29,040 --> 02:56:31,520
doesn't have any art, you really realize

4033
02:56:30,560 --> 02:56:33,680
that

4034
02:56:31,520 --> 02:56:35,840
» There's a lack of beauty in it. So, any

4035
02:56:33,680 --> 02:56:37,840
big city and any good city has good art.

4036
02:56:35,840 --> 02:56:39,680
So, I appreciate your work and and uh

4037
02:56:37,840 --> 02:56:40,319
providing us for the art and the music.

4038
02:56:39,680 --> 02:56:42,399
Thank you.

4039
02:56:40,319 --> 02:56:45,200
» Thanks.

4040
02:56:42,399 --> 02:56:48,399
» Uh, my questions relate to performing

4041
02:56:45,200 --> 02:56:51,040
arts. Um the Twilight series I mean

4042
02:56:48,399 --> 02:56:52,720
we're approaching the 40 maybe the 40th

4043
02:56:51,040 --> 02:56:53,200
year of the Twilight series.

4044
02:56:52,720 --> 02:56:56,080
» That's correct.

4045
02:56:53,200 --> 02:56:58,319
» Uh Select City has changed a lot since

4046
02:56:56,080 --> 02:57:02,080
you know you know for for the last 40

4047
02:56:58,319 --> 02:57:03,760
years and I will well think that is a

4048
02:57:02,080 --> 02:57:07,279
tradition to select city. I would love

4049
02:57:03,760 --> 02:57:10,240
to dig in a little more about um you

4050
02:57:07,279 --> 02:57:11,920
know the revenue that this uh this uh

4051
02:57:10,240 --> 02:57:15,279
this series creates.

4052
02:57:11,920 --> 02:57:18,319
» Sure. um the cost um as far as what you

4053
02:57:15,279 --> 02:57:20,240
know really cost us in and and in and

4054
02:57:18,319 --> 02:57:21,760
salaries and and putting it together.

4055
02:57:20,240 --> 02:57:24,160
Also, I would like to dig in a little

4056
02:57:21,760 --> 02:57:26,720
more about the economic impact that the

4057
02:57:24,160 --> 02:57:27,120
numbers the economic impact that you

4058
02:57:26,720 --> 02:57:29,439
mentioned.

4059
02:57:27,120 --> 02:57:31,920
» Absolutely. Uh and and dig in a little

4060
02:57:29,439 --> 02:57:33,840
more about that. I I know that we're now

4061
02:57:31,920 --> 02:57:37,120
competing with other venues and other

4062
02:57:33,840 --> 02:57:39,120
concert series in in Salt Lake City. Uh,

4063
02:57:37,120 --> 02:57:41,279
and I'm not sure while I really

4064
02:57:39,120 --> 02:57:43,439
appreciate I attended my myself to

4065
02:57:41,279 --> 02:57:47,200
Twilight before I joined the council.

4066
02:57:43,439 --> 02:57:49,439
Now, uh, I I wonder if the role of the

4067
02:57:47,200 --> 02:57:51,840
city has shifted a little bit about

4068
02:57:49,439 --> 02:57:55,200
this. And I, again, I value the work. I

4069
02:57:51,840 --> 02:57:57,359
value the the the series. I wonder if

4070
02:57:55,200 --> 02:57:59,359
uh, the role in the last, you know,

4071
02:57:57,359 --> 02:58:02,080
almost 40 years has changed a little

4072
02:57:59,359 --> 02:58:04,160
bit. um and if the place of select city

4073
02:58:02,080 --> 02:58:08,080
is to compete with other concert venues

4074
02:58:04,160 --> 02:58:10,000
and other concert series. Uh and um but

4075
02:58:08,080 --> 02:58:13,040
again so that information will be

4076
02:58:10,000 --> 02:58:16,319
awesome for me. Um I appreciate the

4077
02:58:13,040 --> 02:58:19,680
presentation. Uh I appre appreciate big

4078
02:58:16,319 --> 02:58:22,640
time the the change uh and the direction

4079
02:58:19,680 --> 02:58:25,120
uh the transparency uh and the work that

4080
02:58:22,640 --> 02:58:29,200
you have put on uh and your team has put

4081
02:58:25,120 --> 02:58:31,359
on to to level up the the the department

4082
02:58:29,200 --> 02:58:33,680
the division sorry not the department.

4083
02:58:31,359 --> 02:58:34,319
» Um so any information about those things

4084
02:58:33,680 --> 02:58:36,640
will be great.

4085
02:58:34,319 --> 02:58:38,399
» I can speak to that right now. Okay. So,

4086
02:58:36,640 --> 02:58:40,319
um, some of you might remember, I'm

4087
02:58:38,399 --> 02:58:42,080
looking [laughter] at you, um, that the

4088
02:58:40,319 --> 02:58:44,479
Twilight concert series used to be

4089
02:58:42,080 --> 02:58:48,000
produced in house and it was an economic

4090
02:58:44,479 --> 02:58:50,640
challenge on the city. In, uh, 2019, I

4091
02:58:48,000 --> 02:58:53,120
believe, I was tasked with restructuring

4092
02:58:50,640 --> 02:58:54,640
the way that program ran. So, we

4093
02:58:53,120 --> 02:58:56,800
produced the series with a private

4094
02:58:54,640 --> 02:58:58,479
vendor. The cost of that program, of

4095
02:58:56,800 --> 02:59:00,080
course, since those times, um, has

4096
02:58:58,479 --> 02:59:03,520
increased the total cost like for

4097
02:59:00,080 --> 02:59:05,600
Twilight Concert Series. Um, in total

4098
02:59:03,520 --> 02:59:08,000
for that program, this is not what we

4099
02:59:05,600 --> 02:59:11,760
pay, but for total production of that

4100
02:59:08,000 --> 02:59:13,439
concert series, it's about $1.2 to $1.3

4101
02:59:11,760 --> 02:59:17,040
million.

4102
02:59:13,439 --> 02:59:20,640
We pay $180,000

4103
02:59:17,040 --> 02:59:22,640
on a contract to get the same value for

4104
02:59:20,640 --> 02:59:25,520
the residents of Salt Lake City. So,

4105
02:59:22,640 --> 02:59:29,120
outside our staff salaries that help

4106
02:59:25,520 --> 02:59:33,520
facilitate that program, it's a $180,000

4107
02:59:29,120 --> 02:59:35,439
contract. Um the economic impact uh is

4108
02:59:33,520 --> 02:59:37,520
generated from a study that we

4109
02:59:35,439 --> 02:59:39,279
participate in within an organization

4110
02:59:37,520 --> 02:59:42,080
nationally called Americans for the

4111
02:59:39,279 --> 02:59:44,240
Arts. And we participate in that study

4112
02:59:42,080 --> 02:59:46,479
um with the state, with the county, with

4113
02:59:44,240 --> 02:59:49,279
the cultural corps and many entities

4114
02:59:46,479 --> 02:59:51,840
nationally to generate the impact, the

4115
02:59:49,279 --> 02:59:54,800
economic impact of attending nonprofit

4116
02:59:51,840 --> 02:59:58,399
arts events in cities. The last study we

4117
02:59:54,800 --> 03:00:00,240
participated in was in 2022. And the way

4118
02:59:58,399 --> 03:00:02,800
that we generate this number is that

4119
03:00:00,240 --> 03:00:04,800
it's based on the average per person's

4120
03:00:02,800 --> 03:00:06,479
spending. When a resident comes

4121
03:00:04,800 --> 03:00:07,680
downtown, they're taking public

4122
03:00:06,479 --> 03:00:09,600
transportation. They're getting

4123
03:00:07,680 --> 03:00:11,600
babysitters. They're going to food.

4124
03:00:09,600 --> 03:00:15,040
They're getting they're going to bars.

4125
03:00:11,600 --> 03:00:17,279
They're um patronizing places downtown.

4126
03:00:15,040 --> 03:00:19,279
And um based on the attendance of the

4127
03:00:17,279 --> 03:00:23,040
Twilight Concert Series in that series,

4128
03:00:19,279 --> 03:00:24,880
which is 41,000 people, we that's how

4129
03:00:23,040 --> 03:00:28,319
the math is created of generating the

4130
03:00:24,880 --> 03:00:30,800
economic impact of the series. Um, and

4131
03:00:28,319 --> 03:00:33,200
we do think the program is unique. As I

4132
03:00:30,800 --> 03:00:38,000
mentioned, Post Malone tickets right now

4133
03:00:33,200 --> 03:00:41,120
are $150 to $700. Most concerts in the

4134
03:00:38,000 --> 03:00:44,000
cities are about $70 to $80 for

4135
03:00:41,120 --> 03:00:46,080
nationally touring bands. We do think

4136
03:00:44,000 --> 03:00:48,399
that gathering and belonging for music

4137
03:00:46,080 --> 03:00:50,319
experiences of of course you can do that

4138
03:00:48,399 --> 03:00:52,880
in the city, but the uniqueness of this

4139
03:00:50,319 --> 03:00:55,359
program is the affordability and the

4140
03:00:52,880 --> 03:00:57,120
accessibility. Um, another feat that we

4141
03:00:55,359 --> 03:01:00,560
pull off with this program, which most

4142
03:00:57,120 --> 03:01:02,800
national bands do not um, favor, is

4143
03:01:00,560 --> 03:01:04,720
allowing local musicians to open for

4144
03:01:02,800 --> 03:01:07,520
them. We're really about professional

4145
03:01:04,720 --> 03:01:10,160
development and launching the careers of

4146
03:01:07,520 --> 03:01:13,200
u, young artists in the community. And

4147
03:01:10,160 --> 03:01:15,840
this is a key component of that program.

4148
03:01:13,200 --> 03:01:19,520
And third, like tour tourism and

4149
03:01:15,840 --> 03:01:21,120
economic um, livability of downtown. Um,

4150
03:01:19,520 --> 03:01:22,479
that's a really important part of the

4151
03:01:21,120 --> 03:01:24,640
program. It's been important to us that

4152
03:01:22,479 --> 03:01:25,920
that program stays downtown for those

4153
03:01:24,640 --> 03:01:28,560
reasons. It's close to public

4154
03:01:25,920 --> 03:01:31,200
transportation. So, we we do believe the

4155
03:01:28,560 --> 03:01:32,960
program is very unique in in its

4156
03:01:31,200 --> 03:01:35,840
accessibility for residents where they

4157
03:01:32,960 --> 03:01:37,680
might not have opportunity.

4158
03:01:35,840 --> 03:01:38,399
» Sorry about that sound. This is not

4159
03:01:37,680 --> 03:01:40,160
» It's okay.

4160
03:01:38,399 --> 03:01:42,080
» The sound in the in those microphones

4161
03:01:40,160 --> 03:01:43,439
somehow it just like cuts out and it

4162
03:01:42,080 --> 03:01:44,960
comes back immediately. So,

4163
03:01:43,439 --> 03:01:46,560
» And and I'll just say with performing

4164
03:01:44,960 --> 03:01:48,960
arts and the programs that we have

4165
03:01:46,560 --> 03:01:51,600
proposed for potential elimination, we

4166
03:01:48,960 --> 03:01:54,319
really are looking at services that are

4167
03:01:51,600 --> 03:01:56,479
duplicative in the community potentially

4168
03:01:54,319 --> 03:01:58,640
um services that have the escalating

4169
03:01:56,479 --> 03:02:01,200
costs in the future, which we've

4170
03:01:58,640 --> 03:02:04,960
identified the busker fest as that. um

4171
03:02:01,200 --> 03:02:07,120
and uh ones that other again service

4172
03:02:04,960 --> 03:02:09,520
providers could do and ones that don't

4173
03:02:07,120 --> 03:02:12,000
um jeopardize our grant funding in terms

4174
03:02:09,520 --> 03:02:13,279
of people served and impact and and the

4175
03:02:12,000 --> 03:02:14,800
funders that we have many of our

4176
03:02:13,279 --> 03:02:17,279
programs are bundled with certain

4177
03:02:14,800 --> 03:02:19,279
funders as well. So again that criteria

4178
03:02:17,279 --> 03:02:21,439
is how we made that determination.

4179
03:02:19,279 --> 03:02:24,160
» Yeah. Will you expand a little bit maybe

4180
03:02:21,439 --> 03:02:27,680
uh I'm not sure how how many uh

4181
03:02:24,160 --> 03:02:31,040
employees uh you know do help with with

4182
03:02:27,680 --> 03:02:35,040
the putting together of the of the uh of

4183
03:02:31,040 --> 03:02:37,920
the concert series. Oh. Um, yeah, we

4184
03:02:35,040 --> 03:02:40,720
have one um staff designated for

4185
03:02:37,920 --> 03:02:43,439
performing arts on our team which um

4186
03:02:40,720 --> 03:02:45,520
does a variety of of programs. Um,

4187
03:02:43,439 --> 03:02:47,279
Living Traditions, Busker Festival,

4188
03:02:45,520 --> 03:02:50,560
Mondays in the Park, performing arts

4189
03:02:47,279 --> 03:02:53,359
generally. Um, as I mentioned, Twilight,

4190
03:02:50,560 --> 03:02:55,680
um, and Buskerfest are also contracted

4191
03:02:53,359 --> 03:02:57,840
services for us. So, they're um, they

4192
03:02:55,680 --> 03:03:00,399
can be a little bit more low touch, but

4193
03:02:57,840 --> 03:03:02,319
we we all work across all our programs.

4194
03:03:00,399 --> 03:03:03,920
So, there's a number of staff that have

4195
03:03:02,319 --> 03:03:06,399
a different role in Twilight.

4196
03:03:03,920 --> 03:03:08,640
» Okay. Any other questions? Everybody's

4197
03:03:06,399 --> 03:03:10,319
very quiet.

4198
03:03:08,640 --> 03:03:10,479
» Okay. I think we're good. Thank you so

4199
03:03:10,319 --> 03:03:13,640
much.

4200
03:03:10,479 --> 03:03:13,640
» Thank you.

4201
03:03:14,960 --> 03:03:18,200
» Thank you,

4202
03:03:19,760 --> 03:03:25,680
» Council members. We have We're almost

4203
03:03:23,279 --> 03:03:27,920
done. So, let's

4204
03:03:25,680 --> 03:03:30,720
uh five minutes behind. That's not too

4205
03:03:27,920 --> 03:03:34,640
terrible. Um let's uh move on to item

4206
03:03:30,720 --> 03:03:38,160
number six. Um cultural co summary uh on

4207
03:03:34,640 --> 03:03:40,560
the blocks update. Um we're going to

4208
03:03:38,160 --> 03:03:42,399
welcome Sylvia Richards uh again at the

4209
03:03:40,560 --> 03:03:46,240
table and she's staying at the table.

4210
03:03:42,399 --> 03:03:49,120
And we're going to uh welcome Lucas

4211
03:03:46,240 --> 03:03:51,439
Horns, the blocks program manager. D

4212
03:03:49,120 --> 03:03:54,960
Brewer, Downtown Alliance executive

4213
03:03:51,439 --> 03:03:58,399
director. Is your time Sylvia?

4214
03:03:54,960 --> 03:04:01,760
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, this briefing

4215
03:03:58,399 --> 03:04:04,240
is an update on the block B blocks arts

4216
03:04:01,760 --> 03:04:07,200
district, formerly known as the cultural

4217
03:04:04,240 --> 03:04:09,520
corps. The blocks is a city and county

4218
03:04:07,200 --> 03:04:11,439
initiative focused on growing and

4219
03:04:09,520 --> 03:04:16,319
celebrating Salt Lake City's creative

4220
03:04:11,439 --> 03:04:20,479
community. This is a review of year 9

4221
03:04:16,319 --> 03:04:24,560
and um a preview of the plan for year

4222
03:04:20,479 --> 03:04:28,080
10. And with that, I will um pass the

4223
03:04:24,560 --> 03:04:32,040
baton on to Lucas and D and Felicia if

4224
03:04:28,080 --> 03:04:32,040
she still wanted to participate.

4225
03:04:33,439 --> 03:04:37,680
» Okay. Hi, council. Uh great to see you

4226
03:04:36,080 --> 03:04:39,040
all. I'm excited to report on what the

4227
03:04:37,680 --> 03:04:40,960
blocks has been up to for the last year

4228
03:04:39,040 --> 03:04:43,520
and give you a preview of what we have

4229
03:04:40,960 --> 03:04:45,279
on the horizon. Uh first off, I want to

4230
03:04:43,520 --> 03:04:47,200
introduce myself. I realize I'm a new

4231
03:04:45,279 --> 03:04:49,439
face since you last had this briefing

4232
03:04:47,200 --> 03:04:51,200
about a year ago. My name is Lucas Horns

4233
03:04:49,439 --> 03:04:53,120
and I took over for Britney Helmers as

4234
03:04:51,200 --> 03:04:56,560
program director of the blocks about six

4235
03:04:53,120 --> 03:04:59,520
months ago. Uh, next slide, please. So,

4236
03:04:56,560 --> 03:05:01,359
as you all know, the blocks is a

4237
03:04:59,520 --> 03:05:03,439
visionary initiative of the city and

4238
03:05:01,359 --> 03:05:06,000
county to promote downtown Salt Lake

4239
03:05:03,439 --> 03:05:08,560
City as the premier arts and culture

4240
03:05:06,000 --> 03:05:13,520
destination of the Inter Mountain West.

4241
03:05:08,560 --> 03:05:16,319
Next slide, please. Our boundaries per

4242
03:05:13,520 --> 03:05:18,800
our contract with the cultural corps run

4243
03:05:16,319 --> 03:05:21,359
roughly from 600 west to 300 east and

4244
03:05:18,800 --> 03:05:24,319
north temple to 400 south. Next slide,

4245
03:05:21,359 --> 03:05:26,319
please.

4246
03:05:24,319 --> 03:05:28,399
Our team is made up of myself and Kai

4247
03:05:26,319 --> 03:05:30,160
Henrikson. He regrets not being able to

4248
03:05:28,399 --> 03:05:31,600
be here today. He's taking a muchneeded

4249
03:05:30,160 --> 03:05:35,960
vacation to visit some family in

4250
03:05:31,600 --> 03:05:35,960
Colorado. Next slide, please.

4251
03:05:36,000 --> 03:05:39,439
Our cultural core budget committee is

4252
03:05:37,680 --> 03:05:40,960
made up of eight members. These are

4253
03:05:39,439 --> 03:05:42,640
representatives from the city and the

4254
03:05:40,960 --> 03:05:44,720
county. A lot of these names are

4255
03:05:42,640 --> 03:05:46,960
familiar to you. Those uh names on the

4256
03:05:44,720 --> 03:05:48,800
left are your city representatives.

4257
03:05:46,960 --> 03:05:51,120
Those on the right are the county

4258
03:05:48,800 --> 03:05:53,040
representatives. Next slide, please. Oh,

4259
03:05:51,120 --> 03:05:54,880
and just to note, we meet every two

4260
03:05:53,040 --> 03:05:57,359
months. Uh the cultural core budget

4261
03:05:54,880 --> 03:06:00,560
committee uh monitors our spending and

4262
03:05:57,359 --> 03:06:01,840
ensures that our our programs and

4263
03:06:00,560 --> 03:06:04,080
spending are meeting the goals of the

4264
03:06:01,840 --> 03:06:05,359
cultural core action plan. So, what are

4265
03:06:04,080 --> 03:06:07,680
the goals of the cultural core action

4266
03:06:05,359 --> 03:06:10,000
plan? As much as I hate reading off of a

4267
03:06:07,680 --> 03:06:11,600
slide, uh I think these are all really

4268
03:06:10,000 --> 03:06:13,920
thoughtful and important and I think

4269
03:06:11,600 --> 03:06:15,279
that our our programming really touches

4270
03:06:13,920 --> 03:06:18,080
on all eight of these. So, I'm going to

4271
03:06:15,279 --> 03:06:19,680
go through them quickly. One, celebrate

4272
03:06:18,080 --> 03:06:21,120
and promote Salt Lake's rich array of

4273
03:06:19,680 --> 03:06:23,840
arts and cultural activities and

4274
03:06:21,120 --> 03:06:25,520
experiences. Two, support increased

4275
03:06:23,840 --> 03:06:28,000
collaboration and creative development

4276
03:06:25,520 --> 03:06:29,760
among Salt Lake's creative community.

4277
03:06:28,000 --> 03:06:31,279
Three, enhance Salt Lake's brand and

4278
03:06:29,760 --> 03:06:33,760
support increased visitation from the

4279
03:06:31,279 --> 03:06:35,920
region and inner mountain west. Four,

4280
03:06:33,760 --> 03:06:38,800
expand and diversify audiences for Salt

4281
03:06:35,920 --> 03:06:40,640
Lake's arts and culture. Five, foster

4282
03:06:38,800 --> 03:06:43,680
downtown as an inclusive, diverse, and

4283
03:06:40,640 --> 03:06:46,479
welcoming place. Six, support downtown

4284
03:06:43,680 --> 03:06:48,560
residential growth. Seven, enhance the

4285
03:06:46,479 --> 03:06:50,640
downtown business environment. And

4286
03:06:48,560 --> 03:06:53,279
eight, enrich the urban experience and

4287
03:06:50,640 --> 03:06:54,720
sense of place. These are lofty goals,

4288
03:06:53,279 --> 03:06:56,160
and so I want to go over how we're

4289
03:06:54,720 --> 03:06:58,319
achieving these goals. Next slide,

4290
03:06:56,160 --> 03:07:00,880
please. I've really boiled our work down

4291
03:06:58,319 --> 03:07:02,800
into three focus areas. First of all is

4292
03:07:00,880 --> 03:07:05,120
our programming and events. We put on a

4293
03:07:02,800 --> 03:07:07,920
lot of our own programming, activations,

4294
03:07:05,120 --> 03:07:10,160
public art to add to the arts offerings

4295
03:07:07,920 --> 03:07:12,319
in downtown Salt Lake. And just to note

4296
03:07:10,160 --> 03:07:15,439
that we really focus almost entirely on

4297
03:07:12,319 --> 03:07:17,279
producing free all ages programming as

4298
03:07:15,439 --> 03:07:19,120
not all arts organizations are able to

4299
03:07:17,279 --> 03:07:21,040
offer this downtown and we see it as a

4300
03:07:19,120 --> 03:07:23,600
really important niche to fill in in

4301
03:07:21,040 --> 03:07:25,840
downtown's arts offerings. Secondly is

4302
03:07:23,600 --> 03:07:27,760
marketing and promotion. We have over

4303
03:07:25,840 --> 03:07:29,600
two dozen arts organizations who are

4304
03:07:27,760 --> 03:07:30,880
consistently performing or exhibiting in

4305
03:07:29,600 --> 03:07:32,720
downtown. This is the highest

4306
03:07:30,880 --> 03:07:34,960
concentration of arts activity in the

4307
03:07:32,720 --> 03:07:36,479
region and we want to amplify all the

4308
03:07:34,960 --> 03:07:38,960
work going on so the community really

4309
03:07:36,479 --> 03:07:41,439
recognizes downtown as an arts

4310
03:07:38,960 --> 03:07:42,960
destination. Between our combined

4311
03:07:41,439 --> 03:07:44,960
followers with the downtown alliance, we

4312
03:07:42,960 --> 03:07:46,800
have about 300,000 followers between

4313
03:07:44,960 --> 03:07:49,200
newsletter subscribers and social media

4314
03:07:46,800 --> 03:07:52,319
followers. And all 300,000 of these

4315
03:07:49,200 --> 03:07:53,760
folks get updates weekly about all the

4316
03:07:52,319 --> 03:07:56,000
fun events and things happening in

4317
03:07:53,760 --> 03:07:58,160
downtown. And lastly, fostering

4318
03:07:56,000 --> 03:08:00,160
collaboration. As part of the downtown

4319
03:07:58,160 --> 03:08:02,000
alliance, we see ourselves as a really

4320
03:08:00,160 --> 03:08:03,439
unique player as an arts organization

4321
03:08:02,000 --> 03:08:04,960
that also has really intimate,

4322
03:08:03,439 --> 03:08:08,240
meaningful ties to the business

4323
03:08:04,960 --> 03:08:09,760
community. We like to bring stakeholders

4324
03:08:08,240 --> 03:08:12,000
into the same room that are business

4325
03:08:09,760 --> 03:08:14,000
owners, property owners, as well as arts

4326
03:08:12,000 --> 03:08:16,960
organizations to really recognize that a

4327
03:08:14,000 --> 03:08:19,279
thriving arts environment does uplift

4328
03:08:16,960 --> 03:08:22,560
the business community downtown. Next

4329
03:08:19,279 --> 03:08:24,720
slide, please.

4330
03:08:22,560 --> 03:08:26,160
I want to go over some metrics. Um, and

4331
03:08:24,720 --> 03:08:28,000
just a note that I'm reporting metrics

4332
03:08:26,160 --> 03:08:30,399
on the calendar year. Our programming

4333
03:08:28,000 --> 03:08:31,840
runs during the warmer months. And so

4334
03:08:30,399 --> 03:08:34,399
it's important that we report on a

4335
03:08:31,840 --> 03:08:36,000
calendar year because as we're expanding

4336
03:08:34,399 --> 03:08:37,680
and introducing new programs, we're

4337
03:08:36,000 --> 03:08:41,200
doing that planning on the calendar

4338
03:08:37,680 --> 03:08:43,200
year. And so to measure the efficacy and

4339
03:08:41,200 --> 03:08:45,279
uh impact that these new programs,

4340
03:08:43,200 --> 03:08:47,040
expansions, new campaigns have, it's

4341
03:08:45,279 --> 03:08:48,720
important that we do it on a calendar

4342
03:08:47,040 --> 03:08:51,520
year, although our fiscal year does run

4343
03:08:48,720 --> 03:08:54,160
same day as yours, July to June. So

4344
03:08:51,520 --> 03:08:56,399
looking back on 2025 in numbers, we put

4345
03:08:54,160 --> 03:09:00,000
on 26 events and activations. That was

4346
03:08:56,399 --> 03:09:01,920
up 17% from 2024. We commissioned seven

4347
03:09:00,000 --> 03:09:04,640
works of public art downtown. That was

4348
03:09:01,920 --> 03:09:07,680
up 40% from 2024.

4349
03:09:04,640 --> 03:09:10,000
We hired 140 artists and performers from

4350
03:09:07,680 --> 03:09:13,520
the local community, up 82% from the

4351
03:09:10,000 --> 03:09:16,319
year before. And lastly, we Arctics

4352
03:09:13,520 --> 03:09:18,479
venues sold about 750,000

4353
03:09:16,319 --> 03:09:20,240
tickets. This is not our programming,

4354
03:09:18,479 --> 03:09:22,160
but we use it as an important metric to

4355
03:09:20,240 --> 03:09:24,399
gauge the health of the general art

4356
03:09:22,160 --> 03:09:27,760
scene downtown. You'll notice those

4357
03:09:24,399 --> 03:09:30,560
ticket sales are down 8% from 2024, and

4358
03:09:27,760 --> 03:09:32,720
I'll go over why that is uh in a later

4359
03:09:30,560 --> 03:09:35,439
slide. It's not concerning, don't worry.

4360
03:09:32,720 --> 03:09:37,600
Next slide, please.

4361
03:09:35,439 --> 03:09:40,640
Looking at our marketing in 2025, we

4362
03:09:37,600 --> 03:09:44,399
posted to social media 1.4,000 times to

4363
03:09:40,640 --> 03:09:46,479
our 300,000 followers. We sent out 52

4364
03:09:44,399 --> 03:09:48,560
weekly newsletters. This is our this

4365
03:09:46,479 --> 03:09:51,920
week downtown series written by the

4366
03:09:48,560 --> 03:09:53,840
downtown Josh Jones. These newsletters

4367
03:09:51,920 --> 03:09:55,200
have a 40% open rate which if you know

4368
03:09:53,840 --> 03:09:58,240
anything about newsletters is pretty

4369
03:09:55,200 --> 03:10:00,160
remarkable and a testament to the the

4370
03:09:58,240 --> 03:10:03,520
value people find in in these

4371
03:10:00,160 --> 03:10:05,200
newsletters. Next slide please.

4372
03:10:03,520 --> 03:10:08,080
We were in the press quite a bit this

4373
03:10:05,200 --> 03:10:11,040
year uh for our different uh or last

4374
03:10:08,080 --> 03:10:13,359
year, excuse me, for our different uh

4375
03:10:11,040 --> 03:10:14,640
some of our public art commissions as

4376
03:10:13,359 --> 03:10:17,840
well as activations we were doing on

4377
03:10:14,640 --> 03:10:20,640
Main Street. Next slide.

4378
03:10:17,840 --> 03:10:22,800
And now I want to talk about show a

4379
03:10:20,640 --> 03:10:24,640
little bit of data to back up the the

4380
03:10:22,800 --> 03:10:27,520
impact that our programming had last

4381
03:10:24,640 --> 03:10:31,279
year. Uh this is showing home distance

4382
03:10:27,520 --> 03:10:33,279
by mile by miles from downtown for

4383
03:10:31,279 --> 03:10:36,240
people who visited Arctic's venues. So

4384
03:10:33,279 --> 03:10:39,040
on the uh y-axis there you have the

4385
03:10:36,240 --> 03:10:40,960
percent of visitors to Arctic's venues.

4386
03:10:39,040 --> 03:10:43,520
That's Capital Theater, Abraven Hall,

4387
03:10:40,960 --> 03:10:44,960
Eckles Theater, and Rose Wagner. These

4388
03:10:43,520 --> 03:10:46,720
are not all the arts venues downtown,

4389
03:10:44,960 --> 03:10:48,960
but they're representative of where

4390
03:10:46,720 --> 03:10:51,680
people are coming from to visit arts in

4391
03:10:48,960 --> 03:10:53,840
downtown. On the x-axis, you have their

4392
03:10:51,680 --> 03:10:55,439
home distance by miles. So you can see

4393
03:10:53,840 --> 03:10:57,520
that about a third are coming from

4394
03:10:55,439 --> 03:11:00,080
within 10 miles. Another third are

4395
03:10:57,520 --> 03:11:01,840
coming from 10 to 30 m and still another

4396
03:11:00,080 --> 03:11:04,160
third are coming from more than 30 miles

4397
03:11:01,840 --> 03:11:06,240
away with a lot coming from over 250 mi

4398
03:11:04,160 --> 03:11:07,600
away. What this data is showing is that

4399
03:11:06,240 --> 03:11:09,600
we are achieving our goal of

4400
03:11:07,600 --> 03:11:11,359
establishing downtown as a regional arts

4401
03:11:09,600 --> 03:11:13,040
destination

4402
03:11:11,359 --> 03:11:15,680
um

4403
03:11:13,040 --> 03:11:17,520
with so many visitors coming from from

4404
03:11:15,680 --> 03:11:19,120
across the region and frankly across the

4405
03:11:17,520 --> 03:11:19,680
country.

4406
03:11:19,120 --> 03:11:22,319
Please

4407
03:11:19,680 --> 03:11:25,920
» Just a quick question. This is a an

4408
03:11:22,319 --> 03:11:27,439
really interesting um chart. Can you

4409
03:11:25,920 --> 03:11:31,120
explain, you know, maybe some of the

4410
03:11:27,439 --> 03:11:33,359
reasons for the 250 mi uh radius in

4411
03:11:31,120 --> 03:11:36,319
terms of more people coming from from

4412
03:11:33,359 --> 03:11:38,080
that radius versus 30 to 50, 50 to 100

4413
03:11:36,319 --> 03:11:40,080
or 100 to 250?

4414
03:11:38,080 --> 03:11:44,080
» Yeah, absolutely. That's because that

4415
03:11:40,080 --> 03:11:45,920
includes the entire country. And so, um,

4416
03:11:44,080 --> 03:11:48,800
we have a lot of, we have, we had

4417
03:11:45,920 --> 03:11:53,200
visitors from all 50 states, uh, buy

4418
03:11:48,800 --> 03:11:57,040
tickets to our arts venues. And so,

4419
03:11:53,200 --> 03:12:00,479
250 mi to 2,000 miles is a much bigger

4420
03:11:57,040 --> 03:12:03,439
area than 150 to 250 mi, if that makes

4421
03:12:00,479 --> 03:12:06,240
sense. So, that's why there's there's

4422
03:12:03,439 --> 03:12:07,840
such a large number coming from 250.

4423
03:12:06,240 --> 03:12:09,439
I'll just I'll pipe in with what I know

4424
03:12:07,840 --> 03:12:11,120
from the so I serve on the board of the

4425
03:12:09,439 --> 03:12:13,120
Eckles Theater and so we dove into a

4426
03:12:11,120 --> 03:12:14,880
little bit of the of because we were

4427
03:12:13,120 --> 03:12:17,520
seeing kind of similar trends. I

4428
03:12:14,880 --> 03:12:21,680
actually think it's a credit to the

4429
03:12:17,520 --> 03:12:23,200
national level of acts both music and

4430
03:12:21,680 --> 03:12:25,439
you know Broadway kind of touring

4431
03:12:23,200 --> 03:12:28,000
performance and the value that you get

4432
03:12:25,439 --> 03:12:29,520
as in terms of like comparing if you're

4433
03:12:28,000 --> 03:12:31,680
going to go see a Broadway show in

4434
03:12:29,520 --> 03:12:33,600
Chicago versus here the value of Salt

4435
03:12:31,680 --> 03:12:34,960
Lake City it's a much cheaper place to

4436
03:12:33,600 --> 03:12:37,840
go and so we're seeing that a lot of

4437
03:12:34,960 --> 03:12:40,080
people are choosing to see those

4438
03:12:37,840 --> 03:12:41,600
national touring acts because of the

4439
03:12:40,080 --> 03:12:43,760
Echo Theater is more affordable than

4440
03:12:41,600 --> 03:12:44,960
seeing in San Francisco or you know

4441
03:12:43,760 --> 03:12:47,680
somewhere like that

4442
03:12:44,960 --> 03:12:50,399
» 100% and it speaks to our local arts

4443
03:12:47,680 --> 03:12:52,319
organizations as well. Ballet West is at

4444
03:12:50,399 --> 03:12:54,000
par with any ballet company you can see

4445
03:12:52,319 --> 03:12:55,760
as well as the Utah Symphony and Utah

4446
03:12:54,000 --> 03:12:56,720
Opera and the ticket price is going to

4447
03:12:55,760 --> 03:12:58,319
be a lot cheaper and you're going to

4448
03:12:56,720 --> 03:13:00,000
have a much more enjoyable stay

4449
03:12:58,319 --> 03:13:03,200
depending on which city you're going to.

4450
03:13:00,000 --> 03:13:05,600
Next slide, please.

4451
03:13:03,200 --> 03:13:07,200
So, once these these visitors are coming

4452
03:13:05,600 --> 03:13:08,479
from across the region and coming into

4453
03:13:07,200 --> 03:13:10,080
our downtown, they're not just visiting

4454
03:13:08,479 --> 03:13:12,080
our arts venues, they're spending money

4455
03:13:10,080 --> 03:13:15,439
in our downtown. We know arts are an

4456
03:13:12,080 --> 03:13:17,600
economic driver. Last year in 2025,

4457
03:13:15,439 --> 03:13:20,240
317,000

4458
03:13:17,600 --> 03:13:23,760
of the visits generated by our downtown

4459
03:13:20,240 --> 03:13:26,080
Arctics venues, uh those visitors went

4460
03:13:23,760 --> 03:13:28,239
to re restaurants or retail directly

4461
03:13:26,080 --> 03:13:30,399
before or after visiting the theater.

4462
03:13:28,239 --> 03:13:33,200
This data comes from Placer AI, just as

4463
03:13:30,399 --> 03:13:35,040
a as a side note. Um but that's showing

4464
03:13:33,200 --> 03:13:37,200
that that the arts are attracting

4465
03:13:35,040 --> 03:13:38,479
visitors and those visitors are not just

4466
03:13:37,200 --> 03:13:40,640
coming for the arts. They're coming into

4467
03:13:38,479 --> 03:13:42,160
downtown to to put their money into the

4468
03:13:40,640 --> 03:13:44,080
local economy. [clears throat] Next

4469
03:13:42,160 --> 03:13:45,920
slide, please.

4470
03:13:44,080 --> 03:13:50,080
Now I want to get to those Arctics

4471
03:13:45,920 --> 03:13:52,000
ticket sales trends. Um so as you can

4472
03:13:50,080 --> 03:13:53,920
see over the last four years those

4473
03:13:52,000 --> 03:13:55,920
numbers have gone up and down quite a

4474
03:13:53,920 --> 03:13:57,840
bit. This is actually more due to the

4475
03:13:55,920 --> 03:14:00,080
variability in the number of shows at

4476
03:13:57,840 --> 03:14:03,200
the Eckles Theater. Eckles Theater

4477
03:14:00,080 --> 03:14:05,040
relies on a lot of touring shows. Um and

4478
03:14:03,200 --> 03:14:07,279
that number just varies greatly from

4479
03:14:05,040 --> 03:14:10,160
year to year. If we take Eckles out of

4480
03:14:07,279 --> 03:14:11,840
the equation, next slide please.

4481
03:14:10,160 --> 03:14:14,720
and we look at just Capital Theater, a

4482
03:14:11,840 --> 03:14:16,080
Braven Hall and Rose Wagner Theater. You

4483
03:14:14,720 --> 03:14:18,080
can see that there is a steady incline

4484
03:14:16,080 --> 03:14:21,200
in ticket sales year-over-year,

4485
03:14:18,080 --> 03:14:23,760
including from 2024 to 2025. Next slide,

4486
03:14:21,200 --> 03:14:26,160
please. I want to quickly go through

4487
03:14:23,760 --> 03:14:29,279
some highlights from 2025 of in terms of

4488
03:14:26,160 --> 03:14:30,720
our programming. Next slide. 2025 was

4489
03:14:29,279 --> 03:14:32,160
the second year of our co-create

4490
03:14:30,720 --> 03:14:33,600
program. This is our artist and

4491
03:14:32,160 --> 03:14:36,640
residence program where we invite

4492
03:14:33,600 --> 03:14:39,359
artists to envision a placemaking

4493
03:14:36,640 --> 03:14:41,439
project in the downtown. We had five

4494
03:14:39,359 --> 03:14:43,359
projects last year including Echoes of

4495
03:14:41,439 --> 03:14:45,680
the Great Salt Lake. This was a new

4496
03:14:43,359 --> 03:14:47,600
symphony piece performed on Gal Gallivan

4497
03:14:45,680 --> 03:14:51,279
Plaza inspired by the Great Salt Lake.

4498
03:14:47,600 --> 03:14:53,520
Next slide. We had Sonder SLC. This was

4499
03:14:51,279 --> 03:14:55,840
a photo gallery that's still on display

4500
03:14:53,520 --> 03:14:57,680
in the Vicilius Prriscos Walkway by

4501
03:14:55,840 --> 03:15:01,600
artist Kelly Freshman. Next slide,

4502
03:14:57,680 --> 03:15:04,399
please. Little Stages was a program

4503
03:15:01,600 --> 03:15:06,960
invisioned by local community organizer

4504
03:15:04,399 --> 03:15:09,040
Tim Sullivan who wanted to create these

4505
03:15:06,960 --> 03:15:11,439
pop-up stages that were easy for buskers

4506
03:15:09,040 --> 03:15:13,760
to carry around the city and set up to

4507
03:15:11,439 --> 03:15:17,120
essentially build mobile concert venues.

4508
03:15:13,760 --> 03:15:20,239
Next slide. Absolutely amazing animals

4509
03:15:17,120 --> 03:15:21,840
was a large-scale mural uh produced by

4510
03:15:20,239 --> 03:15:23,680
artist Dallas Graham on the back of a

4511
03:15:21,840 --> 03:15:26,560
parking garage on Edison Street. Next

4512
03:15:23,680 --> 03:15:28,239
slide. And the day of the dead festival

4513
03:15:26,560 --> 03:15:31,040
was put on by local muralist Betto

4514
03:15:28,239 --> 03:15:33,520
Kanejo that brought around 200 attendees

4515
03:15:31,040 --> 03:15:36,319
to Feice Gallery for for a large

4516
03:15:33,520 --> 03:15:39,120
festival. Next slide. Moving on from

4517
03:15:36,319 --> 03:15:41,200
co-create.

4518
03:15:39,120 --> 03:15:43,279
2025 was also the second year of our

4519
03:15:41,200 --> 03:15:45,279
step-in on Main program. These are the

4520
03:15:43,279 --> 03:15:47,279
free concerts put on on the front steps

4521
03:15:45,279 --> 03:15:49,520
of the Eckles Theater every Friday night

4522
03:15:47,279 --> 03:15:51,680
from June through September. These

4523
03:15:49,520 --> 03:15:54,960
performances range from anywhere from

4524
03:15:51,680 --> 03:15:58,160
jazz to Brazilian dance to drum groups

4525
03:15:54,960 --> 03:16:00,640
and everything in between. Next slide.

4526
03:15:58,160 --> 03:16:02,479
We also put on the uh third annual

4527
03:16:00,640 --> 03:16:04,160
mariachi fest at the Eckles Theater,

4528
03:16:02,479 --> 03:16:05,680
bringing four mariachi groups, one

4529
03:16:04,160 --> 03:16:08,640
national from New York and three local

4530
03:16:05,680 --> 03:16:10,399
mariachi groups. Next slide.

4531
03:16:08,640 --> 03:16:12,319
Curbside theater was a partnership with

4532
03:16:10,399 --> 03:16:14,560
SB Dance. We programmed that show on the

4533
03:16:12,319 --> 03:16:17,520
rooftop of a parking garage on Pure Pont

4534
03:16:14,560 --> 03:16:19,840
Avenue. This offered a really cool venue

4535
03:16:17,520 --> 03:16:21,520
and a free dance performance in downtown

4536
03:16:19,840 --> 03:16:25,279
with sweeping views of the mountains in

4537
03:16:21,520 --> 03:16:27,600
city skyline. Next slide. And lastly, we

4538
03:16:25,279 --> 03:16:31,439
continued our urban plane air program.

4539
03:16:27,600 --> 03:16:33,200
We brought uh 19 artists to the farmers

4540
03:16:31,439 --> 03:16:35,120
market to paint scenes that they saw at

4541
03:16:33,200 --> 03:16:36,800
the market and then sell their work at a

4542
03:16:35,120 --> 03:16:40,080
pop-up gallery at the market the

4543
03:16:36,800 --> 03:16:41,200
following week. Next slide, please. I

4544
03:16:40,080 --> 03:16:43,840
want to talk about some of our

4545
03:16:41,200 --> 03:16:47,279
programming we have on the uh horizon in

4546
03:16:43,840 --> 03:16:49,040
2026. Now, next slide. We're continuing

4547
03:16:47,279 --> 03:16:50,399
co-create again this year, and I'm

4548
03:16:49,040 --> 03:16:52,160
really excited to announce the three

4549
03:16:50,399 --> 03:16:54,000
projects we've selected. The Wish

4550
03:16:52,160 --> 03:16:55,840
Exchange Place will be an uh

4551
03:16:54,000 --> 03:16:58,479
installation that will be interactive on

4552
03:16:55,840 --> 03:17:01,279
Exchange Place up for three months uh by

4553
03:16:58,479 --> 03:17:03,120
artists Alejandra Moya and Kathy Tran.

4554
03:17:01,279 --> 03:17:05,600
Bees Around the Block is a series of

4555
03:17:03,120 --> 03:17:07,439
sculptures on Main Street envisioned by

4556
03:17:05,600 --> 03:17:09,600
uh urban planner and designer Landon

4557
03:17:07,439 --> 03:17:11,920
Krazik. Standing room only is it will be

4558
03:17:09,600 --> 03:17:14,160
a series of dance performances as well

4559
03:17:11,920 --> 03:17:15,840
as installations at former theater sites

4560
03:17:14,160 --> 03:17:18,160
in downtown. This is by local

4561
03:17:15,840 --> 03:17:20,160
choreographer and dancer Constance. Next

4562
03:17:18,160 --> 03:17:21,920
slide.

4563
03:17:20,160 --> 03:17:23,680
Fridays on Maine. This is an expansion

4564
03:17:21,920 --> 03:17:25,200
of our stepping on Main program. So I'm

4565
03:17:23,680 --> 03:17:27,120
really excited to include two more

4566
03:17:25,200 --> 03:17:29,120
stages in addition to the steps of the

4567
03:17:27,120 --> 03:17:33,040
Eckles Theater. We'll have a second

4568
03:17:29,120 --> 03:17:35,200
stage at the um at where Gallivan Center

4569
03:17:33,040 --> 03:17:36,640
intersects Main Street and a third stage

4570
03:17:35,200 --> 03:17:38,880
at Exchange Place. So, we're going to

4571
03:17:36,640 --> 03:17:40,399
put live music and dance performance up

4572
03:17:38,880 --> 03:17:43,680
and down Main Street every Friday night

4573
03:17:40,399 --> 03:17:47,120
from June through September. Next slide.

4574
03:17:43,680 --> 03:17:49,600
The Art Garden. This is a popup art

4575
03:17:47,120 --> 03:17:51,520
exhibition and beer garden held at the

4576
03:17:49,600 --> 03:17:55,200
site of the former Utah Theater on Main

4577
03:17:51,520 --> 03:17:57,279
Street between 100 South and 200. This

4578
03:17:55,200 --> 03:17:58,880
um is a partnership with the Utah Utah

4579
03:17:57,279 --> 03:18:01,359
Museum of Contemporary Art who will be

4580
03:17:58,880 --> 03:18:03,680
be building out two uh art exhibi

4581
03:18:01,359 --> 03:18:05,760
exhibitions and we'll be partnering with

4582
03:18:03,680 --> 03:18:07,040
local breweries to serve beer. And

4583
03:18:05,760 --> 03:18:10,640
although there's beer, this space is

4584
03:18:07,040 --> 03:18:12,640
still all ages. Next slide. Urban plane

4585
03:18:10,640 --> 03:18:14,800
air. We're expanding this program as

4586
03:18:12,640 --> 03:18:17,040
well. Uh we're relieving the market and

4587
03:18:14,800 --> 03:18:18,800
we're bringing 30 artists to paint 30

4588
03:18:17,040 --> 03:18:20,399
iconic buildings around downtown Salt

4589
03:18:18,800 --> 03:18:21,760
Lake. Their art will then be displayed

4590
03:18:20,399 --> 03:18:24,080
in the windows of the buildings that

4591
03:18:21,760 --> 03:18:26,080
they feature. Next slide.

4592
03:18:24,080 --> 03:18:28,160
We'll also be expanding our curbside

4593
03:18:26,080 --> 03:18:30,319
theater program to additional

4594
03:18:28,160 --> 03:18:32,080
performances on parking garage rooftops

4595
03:18:30,319 --> 03:18:34,640
because this is such a unique

4596
03:18:32,080 --> 03:18:36,960
interesting place for a a show like

4597
03:18:34,640 --> 03:18:38,399
this. Uh we're we'll be moving over to

4598
03:18:36,960 --> 03:18:41,520
the parking garage right here at the

4599
03:18:38,399 --> 03:18:43,040
echo uh excuse me on exchange place that

4600
03:18:41,520 --> 03:18:44,560
offers really beautiful views of this

4601
03:18:43,040 --> 03:18:48,160
building in the mountains as you can see

4602
03:18:44,560 --> 03:18:50,479
there. Next slide. Curtain up. This is a

4603
03:18:48,160 --> 03:18:53,840
firstofits-kind event to celebrate the

4604
03:18:50,479 --> 03:18:55,520
start of the 2026 2027 arts season. This

4605
03:18:53,840 --> 03:18:57,439
will bring all arts organizations

4606
03:18:55,520 --> 03:19:00,239
programming in the downtown into one

4607
03:18:57,439 --> 03:19:02,000
under one roof. Uh to to celebrate the

4608
03:19:00,239 --> 03:19:04,000
start of the season, we'll be screening

4609
03:19:02,000 --> 03:19:06,239
a short film that previews each art

4610
03:19:04,000 --> 03:19:07,920
organization's upcoming season from the

4611
03:19:06,239 --> 03:19:10,080
ballet to the opera to modern dance

4612
03:19:07,920 --> 03:19:12,080
companies to Yumoka and everyone in

4613
03:19:10,080 --> 03:19:14,479
between. This will be on September 8th.

4614
03:19:12,080 --> 03:19:17,040
I'll be sure to send you an invite soon.

4615
03:19:14,479 --> 03:19:18,640
Next slide, please.

4616
03:19:17,040 --> 03:19:22,160
And then we have some really exciting

4617
03:19:18,640 --> 03:19:25,120
marketing campaigns um really painting

4618
03:19:22,160 --> 03:19:26,479
the picture of downtown as a arts

4619
03:19:25,120 --> 03:19:28,720
destination showing the breadth and

4620
03:19:26,479 --> 03:19:30,880
diversity of artists working in downtown

4621
03:19:28,720 --> 03:19:32,800
and public art that we have here in

4622
03:19:30,880 --> 03:19:34,399
downtown. So be sure to follow us on

4623
03:19:32,800 --> 03:19:37,359
socials to to keep up with those

4624
03:19:34,399 --> 03:19:39,920
campaigns. Next slide.

4625
03:19:37,359 --> 03:19:42,239
And so much more. I don't want to go

4626
03:19:39,920 --> 03:19:44,640
into these too much detail. Our

4627
03:19:42,239 --> 03:19:46,720
programming is quite extensive, but we

4628
03:19:44,640 --> 03:19:48,160
have continued ongoing programs such as

4629
03:19:46,720 --> 03:19:49,840
our exhibitions on Maine where we

4630
03:19:48,160 --> 03:19:52,800
display public art on Main Street on our

4631
03:19:49,840 --> 03:19:55,520
kiosks. We loan assets to artists like

4632
03:19:52,800 --> 03:19:57,760
lighting, sound systems, stage for free

4633
03:19:55,520 --> 03:20:00,720
if they're working downtown. And then

4634
03:19:57,760 --> 03:20:02,479
we've done a number of partner events um

4635
03:20:00,720 --> 03:20:04,640
already some of these occurred this year

4636
03:20:02,479 --> 03:20:07,359
such as signs was a block party we did

4637
03:20:04,640 --> 03:20:10,080
with Sundance and Feice Gallery during

4638
03:20:07,359 --> 03:20:11,760
the Sundance Film Festival. Cir Kickass

4639
03:20:10,080 --> 03:20:14,960
was a circus performance we put on at

4640
03:20:11,760 --> 03:20:16,720
Gallivan Center with Utah Presents. Uh

4641
03:20:14,960 --> 03:20:19,359
Mariachi Fest will be happening again on

4642
03:20:16,720 --> 03:20:20,880
June 20th. Pogo Fest is a multi- venue

4643
03:20:19,359 --> 03:20:23,279
music festival that will be also

4644
03:20:20,880 --> 03:20:24,800
happening on June 20th. Uh we'll be

4645
03:20:23,279 --> 03:20:26,960
putting up an outdoor stage as part of

4646
03:20:24,800 --> 03:20:28,720
that festival on Exchange Place. The

4647
03:20:26,960 --> 03:20:31,359
Cycle Nation installation is up right

4648
03:20:28,720 --> 03:20:32,800
now in the Vicilus Prriscos Walkway. I

4649
03:20:31,359 --> 03:20:35,040
recommend going and checking it out at

4650
03:20:32,800 --> 03:20:36,640
night. It's a cool interactive uh

4651
03:20:35,040 --> 03:20:38,720
sculpture that lights up when you crank

4652
03:20:36,640 --> 03:20:40,560
these hand cranks. And the Bakau

4653
03:20:38,720 --> 03:20:43,200
installation will be displayed next

4654
03:20:40,560 --> 03:20:44,720
month uh on a Bravo Plaza. This is a

4655
03:20:43,200 --> 03:20:46,160
collaboration with the Gina Bachau

4656
03:20:44,720 --> 03:20:48,720
Foundation. We'll be building a

4657
03:20:46,160 --> 03:20:52,080
large-scale sculpture built out of

4658
03:20:48,720 --> 03:20:53,359
pianos for that. Next slide, please.

4659
03:20:52,080 --> 03:20:54,880
These are our partners that we're

4660
03:20:53,359 --> 03:20:56,399
working with on all of these programs.

4661
03:20:54,880 --> 03:20:58,640
They range from property owners to

4662
03:20:56,399 --> 03:21:00,239
developers to businesses and of course

4663
03:20:58,640 --> 03:21:03,120
the majority of the arts groups working

4664
03:21:00,239 --> 03:21:04,880
downtown. Next slide.

4665
03:21:03,120 --> 03:21:07,760
I wanted to offer just a really high

4666
03:21:04,880 --> 03:21:11,040
overview of our budget for FY27 which

4667
03:21:07,760 --> 03:21:13,840
begins on July 1. Um

4668
03:21:11,040 --> 03:21:15,920
you will be receiving in a transmitt a

4669
03:21:13,840 --> 03:21:17,359
more detailed breakdown of our budget.

4670
03:21:15,920 --> 03:21:19,439
This budget was approved by the cultural

4671
03:21:17,359 --> 03:21:21,200
core budget committee just this week. Um

4672
03:21:19,439 --> 03:21:22,960
but we also found out just this week

4673
03:21:21,200 --> 03:21:24,720
that we'll be receiving open streets

4674
03:21:22,960 --> 03:21:26,640
funding. Thank you very much. And we're

4675
03:21:24,720 --> 03:21:28,880
excited to apply that and expand the

4676
03:21:26,640 --> 03:21:32,000
exciting programming we have this summer

4677
03:21:28,880 --> 03:21:33,920
even more. So the the new budget you you

4678
03:21:32,000 --> 03:21:36,399
will receive will will reflect that

4679
03:21:33,920 --> 03:21:38,960
additional funding as well.

4680
03:21:36,399 --> 03:21:43,000
Next slide. And with that, I'll turn it

4681
03:21:38,960 --> 03:21:43,000
over to you all for any questions.

4682
03:21:47,520 --> 03:21:51,439
Council members,

4683
03:21:49,840 --> 03:21:54,080
I put a minute in my mouth so I can

4684
03:21:51,439 --> 03:21:56,960
barely speak. Um

4685
03:21:54,080 --> 03:21:58,880
no. And will you expand a little bit on

4686
03:21:56,960 --> 03:22:01,200
the open streets funding? Um I'm a

4687
03:21:58,880 --> 03:22:02,479
little confused about that. thought we

4688
03:22:01,200 --> 03:22:04,080
made some, you [clears throat] know,

4689
03:22:02,479 --> 03:22:06,239
there was some changes regarding the

4690
03:22:04,080 --> 03:22:10,840
open um the temple opening and whatnot,

4691
03:22:06,239 --> 03:22:10,840
but is that a proposed

4692
03:22:16,239 --> 03:22:21,200
» So, I think I think it's my

4693
03:22:18,640 --> 03:22:23,680
understanding that some funds within uh

4694
03:22:21,200 --> 03:22:25,600
the city and potentially was open

4695
03:22:23,680 --> 03:22:28,160
streets was redirected to other

4696
03:22:25,600 --> 03:22:31,040
programming and in budget amendment 4,

4697
03:22:28,160 --> 03:22:33,840
you all approved an additional $100,000

4698
03:22:31,040 --> 03:22:36,399
go to the blocks contract. So not

4699
03:22:33,840 --> 03:22:38,800
exactly open streets programming but to

4700
03:22:36,399 --> 03:22:39,840
the mission of the blocks.

4701
03:22:38,800 --> 03:22:42,000
» Sorry for the confusion.

4702
03:22:39,840 --> 03:22:45,120
» We did aund I think that in last year's

4703
03:22:42,000 --> 03:22:46,640
budget we did a little but I guess it's

4704
03:22:45,120 --> 03:22:47,760
the current year.

4705
03:22:46,640 --> 03:22:50,960
» It was a budget on me

4706
03:22:47,760 --> 03:22:52,720
» And I I could it was my understanding it

4707
03:22:50,960 --> 03:22:55,920
was redirected. I could be misspeaking

4708
03:22:52,720 --> 03:22:58,399
but it was in BA4 the extra 100.

4709
03:22:55,920 --> 03:23:00,720
» That that helps. Um

4710
03:22:58,399 --> 03:23:04,720
he's nodding. Okay, we have a Okay, that

4711
03:23:00,720 --> 03:23:06,080
helps a lot. Um, it I will uh it's

4712
03:23:04,720 --> 03:23:07,680
impressive the amount of work that

4713
03:23:06,080 --> 03:23:09,439
you're doing with with the funding that

4714
03:23:07,680 --> 03:23:12,239
you're getting. So, I you know, I'd love

4715
03:23:09,439 --> 03:23:15,920
to see more more more fun things uh

4716
03:23:12,239 --> 03:23:18,479
happening on POP and downtown um and to

4717
03:23:15,920 --> 03:23:20,800
see more activation in our in our city.

4718
03:23:18,479 --> 03:23:22,720
So, uh impressive work. Any

4719
03:23:20,800 --> 03:23:25,680
» No, just thanks.

4720
03:23:22,720 --> 03:23:27,040
» Okay. No, I see some hands. Uh, I don't

4721
03:23:25,680 --> 03:23:30,880
know which one was first, so I'm going

4722
03:23:27,040 --> 03:23:33,120
to give um time to council member Petro

4723
03:23:30,880 --> 03:23:35,359
first.

4724
03:23:33,120 --> 03:23:38,080
» Thank you and thanks for the work. Um,

4725
03:23:35,359 --> 03:23:40,160
the numbers on the performances and the

4726
03:23:38,080 --> 03:23:42,319
statistics that you gave, are any of

4727
03:23:40,160 --> 03:23:45,520
those redundant with what we saw from

4728
03:23:42,319 --> 03:23:48,160
the arts council? And if not, how do we

4729
03:23:45,520 --> 03:23:49,760
decide who gets to count what as part of

4730
03:23:48,160 --> 03:23:51,920
their programming or does everyone just

4731
03:23:49,760 --> 03:23:52,720
get to claim it because we contributed

4732
03:23:51,920 --> 03:23:54,080
to it?

4733
03:23:52,720 --> 03:23:56,800
» Yeah, that's a really good question.

4734
03:23:54,080 --> 03:24:00,399
Yeah. So the events and activations that

4735
03:23:56,800 --> 03:24:02,239
I was counting for 2025 and 2024 were

4736
03:24:00,399 --> 03:24:05,359
blocks produced events and activations

4737
03:24:02,239 --> 03:24:08,720
where a blocks staff member was present.

4738
03:24:05,359 --> 03:24:10,800
So uh they there shouldn't be redundancy

4739
03:24:08,720 --> 03:24:11,920
between anything that this arts council

4740
03:24:10,800 --> 03:24:12,960
produced.

4741
03:24:11,920 --> 03:24:13,920
» Thank you so much. That's really

4742
03:24:12,960 --> 03:24:14,640
encouraging to hear.

4743
03:24:13,920 --> 03:24:16,720
» Yeah.

4744
03:24:14,640 --> 03:24:19,600
» One

4745
03:24:16,720 --> 03:24:22,080
» And one mural.

4746
03:24:19,600 --> 03:24:23,359
» That's the only redundancy I'm speaking

4747
03:24:22,080 --> 03:24:29,000
for.

4748
03:24:23,359 --> 03:24:29,000
Uh, Felicia and Felicia for one second.

4749
03:24:30,319 --> 03:24:36,399
» Uh, Council Wharton.

4750
03:24:33,600 --> 03:24:38,239
» Um, thank you for that presentation. Um,

4751
03:24:36,399 --> 03:24:40,960
Lucas, that was really comprehensive and

4752
03:24:38,239 --> 03:24:42,701
I'm really excited about um all the

4753
03:24:40,960 --> 03:24:44,960
programming that's that's happening and

4754
03:24:42,701 --> 03:24:47,040
[music] um and what we're going to be

4755
03:24:44,960 --> 03:24:50,160
able to continue to do. and just wanted

4756
03:24:47,040 --> 03:24:52,560
to congratulate you in this new role and

4757
03:24:50,160 --> 03:24:54,720
um we look forward to uh working with

4758
03:24:52,560 --> 03:24:56,720
you as one of the partners.

4759
03:24:54,720 --> 03:24:59,040
» Thank you.

4760
03:24:56,720 --> 03:25:01,520
And the last question I have um relates

4761
03:24:59,040 --> 03:25:03,439
how do you get 40% of people to open

4762
03:25:01,520 --> 03:25:06,080
your newsletter because no one opens

4763
03:25:03,439 --> 03:25:07,520
ours. So any tips for the council?

4764
03:25:06,080 --> 03:25:09,520
» It's amazing. If you're not already

4765
03:25:07,520 --> 03:25:11,279
subscribed to it, it's a really

4766
03:25:09,520 --> 03:25:12,960
well-written newsletter that has a lot

4767
03:25:11,279 --> 03:25:15,040
of whimsy in it that I think people look

4768
03:25:12,960 --> 03:25:16,960
forward to every week. So, it's it's a

4769
03:25:15,040 --> 03:25:17,200
it's a credit to Josh Jones's writing. I

4770
03:25:16,960 --> 03:25:20,960
think

4771
03:25:17,200 --> 03:25:23,279
» We need whimsy. Okay. Okay. Thank you.

4772
03:25:20,960 --> 03:25:25,200
Thank you for your time.

4773
03:25:23,279 --> 03:25:26,399
» Oh, no.

4774
03:25:25,200 --> 03:25:29,279
» Chris, do you have more questions?

4775
03:25:26,399 --> 03:25:33,000
» Oh, sorry.

4776
03:25:29,279 --> 03:25:33,000
» I think it's probably gone.

4777
03:25:35,600 --> 03:25:41,200
» Um, council members, this

4778
03:25:39,359 --> 03:25:43,200
uh concludes that portion of the agenda.

4779
03:25:41,200 --> 03:25:44,479
We're going to move on to the reported

4780
03:25:43,200 --> 03:25:46,319
announcements from the executive

4781
03:25:44,479 --> 03:25:48,960
director,

4782
03:25:46,319 --> 03:25:50,560
Lehua.

4783
03:25:48,960 --> 03:25:52,319
» The V team here. Um

4784
03:25:50,560 --> 03:25:52,960
» The V team. Not quite.

4785
03:25:52,319 --> 03:25:53,760
» Um

4786
03:25:52,960 --> 03:25:56,640
» Always the

4787
03:25:53,760 --> 03:25:59,359
» We have uh Linda came and passed out a

4788
03:25:56,640 --> 03:26:02,160
handout. And this is something that we

4789
03:25:59,359 --> 03:26:05,359
did when the council had um the last

4790
03:26:02,160 --> 03:26:08,239
vacancy. Um and Cindy Lou may come up to

4791
03:26:05,359 --> 03:26:11,200
the table so that she can help me

4792
03:26:08,239 --> 03:26:15,040
uh correct. She will correct me if I say

4793
03:26:11,200 --> 03:26:16,800
anything not quite right

4794
03:26:15,040 --> 03:26:17,680
» And she will make sure the record is

4795
03:26:16,800 --> 03:26:19,600
clear.

4796
03:26:17,680 --> 03:26:20,080
» You can throw the hand sanitizer towards

4797
03:26:19,600 --> 03:26:23,840
us.

4798
03:26:20,080 --> 03:26:24,160
» Yeah. Do you want to

4799
03:26:23,840 --> 03:26:26,000
» Okay.

4800
03:26:24,160 --> 03:26:27,760
» So, this is an important update.

4801
03:26:26,000 --> 03:26:29,840
» This is an important update. This is to

4802
03:26:27,760 --> 03:26:32,720
confirm the timeline for filling the

4803
03:26:29,840 --> 03:26:35,040
vacancy in district 4. Uh the timeline

4804
03:26:32,720 --> 03:26:36,960
has been created based on a conversation

4805
03:26:35,040 --> 03:26:39,439
with actually the three of the members

4806
03:26:36,960 --> 03:26:42,000
here in person um during the chair vice

4807
03:26:39,439 --> 03:26:45,040
chair meeting on Tuesday. Um the

4808
03:26:42,000 --> 03:26:46,560
calendar is a visual look of what I

4809
03:26:45,040 --> 03:26:48,880
would run through in this outline

4810
03:26:46,560 --> 03:26:51,760
handout that you have as well just to

4811
03:26:48,880 --> 03:26:53,520
confirm. Um if it's okay I'll just read

4812
03:26:51,760 --> 03:26:57,120
through this and you guys can stop me if

4813
03:26:53,520 --> 03:26:59,680
you have questions. Um so the the

4814
03:26:57,120 --> 03:27:01,680
process basically is um outlined in

4815
03:26:59,680 --> 03:27:04,800
state code and it requires that the

4816
03:27:01,680 --> 03:27:08,080
council would receive applications and

4817
03:27:04,800 --> 03:27:10,640
conduct interviews with eligible

4818
03:27:08,080 --> 03:27:13,840
applicants and then um select a new

4819
03:27:10,640 --> 03:27:16,319
council member within 30 days. Um based

4820
03:27:13,840 --> 03:27:19,600
on the way the counting works out uh

4821
03:27:16,319 --> 03:27:22,560
Wednesday was day one and the 30-day

4822
03:27:19,600 --> 03:27:24,319
would 30 days would end on June 11th.

4823
03:27:22,560 --> 03:27:26,160
Um, because of the number of meetings

4824
03:27:24,319 --> 03:27:29,040
that the council already has on your

4825
03:27:26,160 --> 03:27:30,880
calendar, uh, due to the budget, I don't

4826
03:27:29,040 --> 03:27:34,560
anticipate that you would need to add

4827
03:27:30,880 --> 03:27:36,800
any new council meetings. Uh, but you

4828
03:27:34,560 --> 03:27:39,680
can confirm that for me as we walk

4829
03:27:36,800 --> 03:27:41,359
through this. Um,

4830
03:27:39,680 --> 03:27:42,800
there's also been a question, so I just

4831
03:27:41,359 --> 03:27:44,479
wanted to go over a little bit of

4832
03:27:42,800 --> 03:27:46,800
general info. There's been a question

4833
03:27:44,479 --> 03:27:49,200
just about how it works. when council

4834
03:27:46,800 --> 03:27:52,720
member Young was selected and appointed

4835
03:27:49,200 --> 03:27:56,720
to fill the vacancy in district 7 there

4836
03:27:52,720 --> 03:27:59,040
um she needed to hold elections because

4837
03:27:56,720 --> 03:28:01,120
of the amount of time left in the term

4838
03:27:59,040 --> 03:28:03,760
in this situation because there is less

4839
03:28:01,120 --> 03:28:06,080
than two years left in the in the term.

4840
03:28:03,760 --> 03:28:08,479
Whoever you appoint will serve the

4841
03:28:06,080 --> 03:28:12,080
remainder of the term and then elections

4842
03:28:08,479 --> 03:28:15,279
will still be held in fall of 2027 for

4843
03:28:12,080 --> 03:28:18,560
the next term um beginning in January of

4844
03:28:15,279 --> 03:28:20,880
2028. Uh the recorders office will also

4845
03:28:18,560 --> 03:28:23,680
post the applications

4846
03:28:20,880 --> 03:28:25,520
um on the website once they have been or

4847
03:28:23,680 --> 03:28:27,520
the names of the applicant and the

4848
03:28:25,520 --> 03:28:30,479
paperwork on a website once those

4849
03:28:27,520 --> 03:28:32,319
applicants have um the eligibility has

4850
03:28:30,479 --> 03:28:35,279
been verified. So, that information is

4851
03:28:32,319 --> 03:28:38,960
available to the public um along with

4852
03:28:35,279 --> 03:28:41,279
also a conflict of interest form. Um,

4853
03:28:38,960 --> 03:28:43,840
and we'll see how this plays out in your

4854
03:28:41,279 --> 03:28:45,760
timeline down below. But just wanted to

4855
03:28:43,840 --> 03:28:47,760
note um Cindy Lou pointed out that

4856
03:28:45,760 --> 03:28:49,920
there's a new state code requirement

4857
03:28:47,760 --> 03:28:53,120
that conflict of interest forms would be

4858
03:28:49,920 --> 03:28:55,760
placed and available online for 7 days

4859
03:28:53,120 --> 03:28:58,479
before the council appoints the new

4860
03:28:55,760 --> 03:29:00,319
candidate. So, that is another extension

4861
03:28:58,479 --> 03:29:03,359
that needs to be accounted for in our 30

4862
03:29:00,319 --> 03:29:05,680
days. Could uh are we allowed to request

4863
03:29:03,359 --> 03:29:06,880
the the conflict of interest form with

4864
03:29:05,680 --> 03:29:08,080
the application?

4865
03:29:06,880 --> 03:29:09,520
» Exactly. It will be

4866
03:29:08,080 --> 03:29:11,760
» So it's it's so

4867
03:29:09,520 --> 03:29:13,359
» Yeah they won't be a valified a verified

4868
03:29:11,760 --> 03:29:14,720
candidate until they submit that.

4869
03:29:13,359 --> 03:29:16,239
» Okay. So it's part of the process.

4870
03:29:14,720 --> 03:29:18,000
» It will be part of the application.

4871
03:29:16,239 --> 03:29:21,200
» Okay.

4872
03:29:18,000 --> 03:29:23,520
» Okay. And then also you'll you um will

4873
03:29:21,200 --> 03:29:26,720
have a resolution placed on one of your

4874
03:29:23,520 --> 03:29:29,040
upcoming agendas that just cl addresses

4875
03:29:26,720 --> 03:29:31,200
um the voting circum different voting

4876
03:29:29,040 --> 03:29:32,640
circumstances. It's a new state code

4877
03:29:31,200 --> 03:29:35,520
requirement as well that that

4878
03:29:32,640 --> 03:29:37,200
information is um formally adopted so

4879
03:29:35,520 --> 03:29:39,439
that everyone knows what to expect about

4880
03:29:37,200 --> 03:29:41,520
how voting will occur. So, I'll just run

4881
03:29:39,439 --> 03:29:44,239
through the dates. Um as we said, May

4882
03:29:41,520 --> 03:29:48,399
13th, yesterday, Wednesday, May 13th was

4883
03:29:44,239 --> 03:29:50,960
day one. Um and so from that time, uh

4884
03:29:48,399 --> 03:29:53,359
our office, Cindy Lou and the recorder's

4885
03:29:50,960 --> 03:29:56,479
office, Keith and his staff have been

4886
03:29:53,359 --> 03:29:58,640
coordinating on getting an ad posted. Um

4887
03:29:56,479 --> 03:30:00,720
there is a requirement for a legal ad to

4888
03:29:58,640 --> 03:30:03,920
be placed in the paper. It will be

4889
03:30:00,720 --> 03:30:07,439
placed with the Salt Lake Tribune um and

4890
03:30:03,920 --> 03:30:09,760
it and Utah legals. Um and it basically

4891
03:30:07,439 --> 03:30:11,520
outlines what the timeline will be when

4892
03:30:09,760 --> 03:30:13,840
application the application period

4893
03:30:11,520 --> 03:30:15,840
opens, when it closes, and when the

4894
03:30:13,840 --> 03:30:19,200
council anticipates you might hold the

4895
03:30:15,840 --> 03:30:22,720
interviews and make um an appointment.

4896
03:30:19,200 --> 03:30:26,239
Um, so in that time, not only will the

4897
03:30:22,720 --> 03:30:28,640
public notice go out, but also um the

4898
03:30:26,239 --> 03:30:31,359
your council staff communications team

4899
03:30:28,640 --> 03:30:34,000
will kick into gear. Um, there's a there

4900
03:30:31,359 --> 03:30:37,600
will be social media posts, website

4901
03:30:34,000 --> 03:30:39,920
updates. Um, they have a vacancy hub

4902
03:30:37,600 --> 03:30:42,080
website that goes through and explains a

4903
03:30:39,920 --> 03:30:44,880
lot of the information that people can

4904
03:30:42,080 --> 03:30:48,239
expect. We also take emails from anyone

4905
03:30:44,880 --> 03:30:50,960
who wants to receive notification as we

4906
03:30:48,239 --> 03:30:53,359
proc progress through this process and

4907
03:30:50,960 --> 03:30:56,239
also notice will be posted in the city

4908
03:30:53,359 --> 03:30:58,239
building. Um and the recorders office is

4909
03:30:56,239 --> 03:31:00,160
also able to post that in the district 4

4910
03:30:58,239 --> 03:31:03,359
library and other community gathering

4911
03:31:00,160 --> 03:31:05,279
spaces too. So I I would say we will go

4912
03:31:03,359 --> 03:31:08,000
ahead and do those steps but you guys

4913
03:31:05,279 --> 03:31:11,600
can tell me if you don't want any of

4914
03:31:08,000 --> 03:31:13,600
those things to happen.

4915
03:31:11,600 --> 03:31:14,560
Could we add an additional things?

4916
03:31:13,600 --> 03:31:17,359
» Yeah, of course.

4917
03:31:14,560 --> 03:31:20,239
» Um, could we uh can we ensure that the

4918
03:31:17,359 --> 03:31:21,279
newsletter on the social media pages for

4919
03:31:20,239 --> 03:31:22,000
the district

4920
03:31:21,279 --> 03:31:24,479
» Specific

4921
03:31:22,000 --> 03:31:26,560
» Are updated so those that are in that

4922
03:31:24,479 --> 03:31:27,200
email list and they're following those

4923
03:31:26,560 --> 03:31:27,760
pages

4924
03:31:27,200 --> 03:31:29,200
» Of course

4925
03:31:27,760 --> 03:31:30,000
» Get it get

4926
03:31:29,200 --> 03:31:32,720
» The nudge.

4927
03:31:30,000 --> 03:31:36,000
» Yep. Absolutely. We will do that.

4928
03:31:32,720 --> 03:31:38,880
So, the application period would begin

4929
03:31:36,000 --> 03:31:42,000
next Monday, May 18th, and then it would

4930
03:31:38,880 --> 03:31:44,160
extend through Monday, June 1st, at 5:00

4931
03:31:42,000 --> 03:31:46,080
p.m. The council's past policy and

4932
03:31:44,160 --> 03:31:48,160
practice has been to keep the

4933
03:31:46,080 --> 03:31:50,720
application period open for two weeks.

4934
03:31:48,160 --> 03:31:52,399
So, that is that twoe period, especially

4935
03:31:50,720 --> 03:31:56,800
given that there's a holiday in the

4936
03:31:52,399 --> 03:31:58,640
middle of it. Um the application um

4937
03:31:56,800 --> 03:32:00,800
obviously will follow the state code

4938
03:31:58,640 --> 03:32:03,600
requirements for what information needs

4939
03:32:00,800 --> 03:32:06,399
to be provided. And then in the last

4940
03:32:03,600 --> 03:32:08,720
time that the council held this process,

4941
03:32:06,399 --> 03:32:10,880
we also included three to four questions

4942
03:32:08,720 --> 03:32:13,279
on the application that the applicants

4943
03:32:10,880 --> 03:32:17,920
would provide written answers to when

4944
03:32:13,279 --> 03:32:20,239
they turn in their application. Um,

4945
03:32:17,920 --> 03:32:21,920
I'm going to keep going, but I have a

4946
03:32:20,239 --> 03:32:23,680
question for you on when the application

4947
03:32:21,920 --> 03:32:26,160
period closes, but we'll come back to

4948
03:32:23,680 --> 03:32:30,080
that. Um

4949
03:32:26,160 --> 03:32:32,960
given applications being completed and

4950
03:32:30,080 --> 03:32:34,560
provided to the council, um if the

4951
03:32:32,960 --> 03:32:37,200
application period closes on Monday,

4952
03:32:34,560 --> 03:32:40,319
June 1st, then realistically those would

4953
03:32:37,200 --> 03:32:41,840
be the recorder's office could provide a

4954
03:32:40,319 --> 03:32:44,319
complete packet of all of the

4955
03:32:41,840 --> 03:32:48,560
applications to you by Tuesday morning

4956
03:32:44,319 --> 03:32:51,120
on June 2nd. Given that, do you want to

4957
03:32:48,560 --> 03:32:53,840
consider having interviews held on

4958
03:32:51,120 --> 03:32:56,880
Thursday, June 4th, or do you want to

4959
03:32:53,840 --> 03:32:59,760
wait and see how many applications you

4960
03:32:56,880 --> 03:33:02,720
have to review and then decide

4961
03:32:59,760 --> 03:33:04,880
on an interview and appointment

4962
03:33:02,720 --> 03:33:06,720
schedule?

4963
03:33:04,880 --> 03:33:08,560
I think it would have to be on the

4964
03:33:06,720 --> 03:33:10,560
number of applications we have, but even

4965
03:33:08,560 --> 03:33:13,359
on a Thursday, even if it's just only a

4966
03:33:10,560 --> 03:33:16,160
few, uh I almost think that we need more

4967
03:33:13,359 --> 03:33:18,880
time, especially that's the and because

4968
03:33:16,160 --> 03:33:22,399
we have the budget going on also that I

4969
03:33:18,880 --> 03:33:25,600
would recommend the 9th as a first date

4970
03:33:22,399 --> 03:33:26,319
that we could actually interview it and

4971
03:33:25,600 --> 03:33:28,239
select.

4972
03:33:26,319 --> 03:33:30,720
» Yeah. And the reason that's helpful too,

4973
03:33:28,239 --> 03:33:34,160
just to insert, is this 7-day conflict

4974
03:33:30,720 --> 03:33:36,720
of interest posting requirement. If you

4975
03:33:34,160 --> 03:33:39,359
wanted to definitely plan on Thursday,

4976
03:33:36,720 --> 03:33:41,040
June 4th, we would want to change the

4977
03:33:39,359 --> 03:33:43,120
application close date.

4978
03:33:41,040 --> 03:33:45,040
» So the nine will meet that, right?

4979
03:33:43,120 --> 03:33:46,560
Because if the applications end on the

4980
03:33:45,040 --> 03:33:48,720
on the first,

4981
03:33:46,560 --> 03:33:50,800
» That that will be enough time for that

4982
03:33:48,720 --> 03:33:53,760
piece.

4983
03:33:50,800 --> 03:33:54,880
» Nine seems to seems reasonable to me.

4984
03:33:53,760 --> 03:33:56,800
» Um,

4985
03:33:54,880 --> 03:33:57,520
» Okay. I think we got Sarah's Sarah's

4986
03:33:56,800 --> 03:33:59,040
nodding. Yes.

4987
03:33:57,520 --> 03:34:00,880
» Okay.

4988
03:33:59,040 --> 03:34:02,080
» Okay, that's perfect. And then that also

4989
03:34:00,880 --> 03:34:04,319
allows you flexibility

4990
03:34:02,080 --> 03:34:06,319
» For me too.

4991
03:34:04,319 --> 03:34:09,760
» Thank you. It also allows you

4992
03:34:06,319 --> 03:34:12,239
flexibility if you did need to delay

4993
03:34:09,760 --> 03:34:13,920
the final appointment until for one more

4994
03:34:12,239 --> 03:34:15,840
night for whatever reason, then you

4995
03:34:13,920 --> 03:34:17,680
would have until the that Thursday the

4996
03:34:15,840 --> 03:34:23,720
11th. So you we we'll just kind of

4997
03:34:17,680 --> 03:34:23,720
reserve that as 9th and 11th. Okay. Um

4998
03:34:23,920 --> 03:34:30,800
so that takes us through those last few

4999
03:34:27,200 --> 03:34:34,720
items. Um

5000
03:34:30,800 --> 03:34:37,680
next page um direction needed date a

5001
03:34:34,720 --> 03:34:40,319
item one we already covered also item

5002
03:34:37,680 --> 03:34:43,359
two and then so application questions.

5003
03:34:40,319 --> 03:34:46,399
I've listed here the four questions that

5004
03:34:43,359 --> 03:34:49,120
were used on the district 7 vacancy

5005
03:34:46,399 --> 03:34:50,720
application. I modified them very

5006
03:34:49,120 --> 03:34:52,720
slightly just to account for the fact

5007
03:34:50,720 --> 03:34:54,399
that this is a different district. If

5008
03:34:52,720 --> 03:34:56,800
you wanted to review those and give me

5009
03:34:54,399 --> 03:34:58,080
any edits and council members online,

5010
03:34:56,800 --> 03:35:00,080
I'm sorry, I should have mentioned that

5011
03:34:58,080 --> 03:35:02,560
you have this information in your email

5012
03:35:00,080 --> 03:35:05,040
either from Kristen or me earlier this

5013
03:35:02,560 --> 03:35:06,720
afternoon. Um, and so if you wanted to

5014
03:35:05,040 --> 03:35:10,160
review those questions and either give

5015
03:35:06,720 --> 03:35:12,160
those to me now or by tomorrow, um, I

5016
03:35:10,160 --> 03:35:14,319
could follow up with you all tomorrow to

5017
03:35:12,160 --> 03:35:15,680
get any edits to the questions.

5018
03:35:14,319 --> 03:35:17,840
» I personally think that there are

5019
03:35:15,680 --> 03:35:20,960
accurate questions. they're they follow

5020
03:35:17,840 --> 03:35:25,600
the a pattern of you know that we have

5021
03:35:20,960 --> 03:35:28,160
followed in the past. Um but if maybe if

5022
03:35:25,600 --> 03:35:29,920
any council member has changes or

5023
03:35:28,160 --> 03:35:34,479
suggestions

5024
03:35:29,920 --> 03:35:37,680
» Um but then by you know

5025
03:35:34,479 --> 03:35:41,279
Monday uh you know we go with this

5026
03:35:37,680 --> 03:35:43,040
questions um or no time right now.

5027
03:35:41,279 --> 03:35:45,040
» Well I think it's tomorrow Friday would

5028
03:35:43,040 --> 03:35:46,720
be good so that by Monday the

5029
03:35:45,040 --> 03:35:48,560
application is available.

5030
03:35:46,720 --> 03:35:52,960
So if but if you don't have any

5031
03:35:48,560 --> 03:35:56,160
suggestions on changing them um then

5032
03:35:52,960 --> 03:35:58,560
let's you know submit them by tomorrow.

5033
03:35:56,160 --> 03:36:02,080
» Perfect.

5034
03:35:58,560 --> 03:36:03,120
» Yeah. No no edits here.

5035
03:36:02,080 --> 03:36:04,880
» No edits.

5036
03:36:03,120 --> 03:36:06,399
» Me either.

5037
03:36:04,880 --> 03:36:07,920
» Me neither. Thank you.

5038
03:36:06,399 --> 03:36:08,880
» Perfect. Okay. We'll go with those.

5039
03:36:07,920 --> 03:36:12,080
» Don't even wait then.

5040
03:36:08,880 --> 03:36:14,319
» Then we can have it already online. Um

5041
03:36:12,080 --> 03:36:18,239
regarding the interview format. Um, in

5042
03:36:14,319 --> 03:36:21,120
the past the council um had on the night

5043
03:36:18,239 --> 03:36:22,880
of interviews, um, state code requires

5044
03:36:21,120 --> 03:36:24,319
that you give everybody an opportunity

5045
03:36:22,880 --> 03:36:26,000
to address the council. The way that

5046
03:36:24,319 --> 03:36:28,160
you've handled that in the past is to

5047
03:36:26,000 --> 03:36:31,040
give each of the applicants five minutes

5048
03:36:28,160 --> 03:36:33,920
to address the council on any topic they

5049
03:36:31,040 --> 03:36:36,160
they want to. Do you want to continue

5050
03:36:33,920 --> 03:36:38,479
with that practice for round one?

5051
03:36:36,160 --> 03:36:41,120
» Generally, yes. Let me ask a clarifying

5052
03:36:38,479 --> 03:36:43,439
question. So we are required to give

5053
03:36:41,120 --> 03:36:45,840
every applicant

5054
03:36:43,439 --> 03:36:47,439
uh every single one of them

5055
03:36:45,840 --> 03:36:48,880
» An interview opportunity.

5056
03:36:47,439 --> 03:36:50,239
» An interview opportunity and it has to

5057
03:36:48,880 --> 03:36:50,800
be in a public meeting.

5058
03:36:50,239 --> 03:36:53,040
» Correct.

5059
03:36:50,800 --> 03:36:55,600
» It does and it does have to be eligible.

5060
03:36:53,040 --> 03:36:58,160
So only validated applicants. Okay. If

5061
03:36:55,600 --> 03:37:00,319
someone does not meet the requirements

5062
03:36:58,160 --> 03:37:01,840
that are outlined in state code or does

5063
03:37:00,319 --> 03:37:04,319
not submit their conflict of interest,

5064
03:37:01,840 --> 03:37:05,040
they would not be available to be

5065
03:37:04,319 --> 03:37:07,920
interviewed.

5066
03:37:05,040 --> 03:37:09,439
» Let me ask about the time. Do we have to

5067
03:37:07,920 --> 03:37:10,960
tell them how much time we're going to

5068
03:37:09,439 --> 03:37:12,800
give them?

5069
03:37:10,960 --> 03:37:15,680
» Yeah, that's my question. I'm wondering

5070
03:37:12,800 --> 03:37:18,319
if it's like possible to give a range

5071
03:37:15,680 --> 03:37:20,720
and then adjust and give them a final

5072
03:37:18,319 --> 03:37:21,279
number based on how many applicants we

5073
03:37:20,720 --> 03:37:23,279
had.

5074
03:37:21,279 --> 03:37:24,000
» That's that's what I Yes, we we're

5075
03:37:23,279 --> 03:37:25,760
synced in here.

5076
03:37:24,000 --> 03:37:26,160
» What do you think is a good minimum

5077
03:37:25,760 --> 03:37:28,000
number?

5078
03:37:26,160 --> 03:37:28,319
» I feel like between three and five, but

5079
03:37:28,000 --> 03:37:30,640
you know,

5080
03:37:28,319 --> 03:37:33,359
» That's what I was thinking. Yes,

5081
03:37:30,640 --> 03:37:35,840
» So you know, if we have 20 people apply,

5082
03:37:33,359 --> 03:37:37,600
you know, we might go with a three. Um,

5083
03:37:35,840 --> 03:37:38,319
you know, so that's sort of the the

5084
03:37:37,600 --> 03:37:40,640
general sense.

5085
03:37:38,319 --> 03:37:42,239
» The way that we've provided that

5086
03:37:40,640 --> 03:37:44,560
information to the applicants in the

5087
03:37:42,239 --> 03:37:46,319
past is once the application period is

5088
03:37:44,560 --> 03:37:49,359
closed and we collect all of the

5089
03:37:46,319 --> 03:37:51,359
applications, we I have sent them an

5090
03:37:49,359 --> 03:37:53,760
email to just let them know what to

5091
03:37:51,359 --> 03:37:56,399
expect in terms of next steps. And so we

5092
03:37:53,760 --> 03:37:59,760
could even just wait until at that time

5093
03:37:56,399 --> 03:38:01,439
tell them whatever you all have decided.

5094
03:37:59,760 --> 03:38:04,160
» Okay.

5095
03:38:01,439 --> 03:38:06,640
» Okay. And then in the past also we come

5096
03:38:04,160 --> 03:38:09,040
up with a plan in case there's a round

5097
03:38:06,640 --> 03:38:11,520
two, round three, round four. And the

5098
03:38:09,040 --> 03:38:14,239
way that we've done that in the past is

5099
03:38:11,520 --> 03:38:16,880
um round one is over, the council takes

5100
03:38:14,239 --> 03:38:19,120
a vote to reduce the number of

5101
03:38:16,880 --> 03:38:20,880
applicants who move on to round two and

5102
03:38:19,120 --> 03:38:23,920
then you give them a question and let

5103
03:38:20,880 --> 03:38:25,600
the applicants address the council um

5104
03:38:23,920 --> 03:38:27,439
just on that one question and you give

5105
03:38:25,600 --> 03:38:30,319
them two to three minutes to respond to

5106
03:38:27,439 --> 03:38:31,760
that. Um, are you okay with that as a

5107
03:38:30,319 --> 03:38:33,279
process for round two?

5108
03:38:31,760 --> 03:38:33,840
» Could we do some rank choice voting?

5109
03:38:33,279 --> 03:38:35,279
Although

5110
03:38:33,840 --> 03:38:37,439
» Oh, rank choice voting might be

5111
03:38:35,279 --> 03:38:39,680
interesting. Is it the same question for

5112
03:38:37,439 --> 03:38:41,520
every applicant in round two?

5113
03:38:39,680 --> 03:38:42,640
» I think that's what we did last time.

5114
03:38:41,520 --> 03:38:43,680
» It is. [clears throat]

5115
03:38:42,640 --> 03:38:45,279
It is what you did.

5116
03:38:43,680 --> 03:38:46,880
» No,

5117
03:38:45,279 --> 03:38:49,279
no, experience.

5118
03:38:46,880 --> 03:38:52,160
» We got different questions and I think

5119
03:38:49,279 --> 03:38:56,000
that that is one of the things I would

5120
03:38:52,160 --> 03:38:58,560
flag feels a little inequitable.

5121
03:38:56,000 --> 03:39:00,479
Um, and I just wonder if there's a way

5122
03:38:58,560 --> 03:39:03,279
like like I said, you can have one

5123
03:39:00,479 --> 03:39:05,680
applicant step out, one answer, and then

5124
03:39:03,279 --> 03:39:07,200
come back in and answer um, so that

5125
03:39:05,680 --> 03:39:09,120
they're answering the exact same

5126
03:39:07,200 --> 03:39:10,880
question because I know in the final

5127
03:39:09,120 --> 03:39:13,120
round we were answering different

5128
03:39:10,880 --> 03:39:15,040
questions.

5129
03:39:13,120 --> 03:39:18,319
» Yeah, that's

5130
03:39:15,040 --> 03:39:21,760
Sarah. I believe Sarah

5131
03:39:18,319 --> 03:39:24,399
» It might be worthwhile and I'm going off

5132
03:39:21,760 --> 03:39:26,479
out of my lane but perhaps if there's an

5133
03:39:24,399 --> 03:39:29,120
opportunity to pull the various

5134
03:39:26,479 --> 03:39:31,200
questions so that you could determine

5135
03:39:29,120 --> 03:39:33,439
which ones you want to ask as a group

5136
03:39:31,200 --> 03:39:36,160
and have that consistency before the

5137
03:39:33,439 --> 03:39:37,600
meeting. That would help. You don't have

5138
03:39:36,160 --> 03:39:39,600
to share them with the public until you

5139
03:39:37,600 --> 03:39:41,760
present them, but it would help with the

5140
03:39:39,600 --> 03:39:44,239
congruence of all of you providing what

5141
03:39:41,760 --> 03:39:46,160
you're interested in for the round two

5142
03:39:44,239 --> 03:39:48,080
or the final round.

5143
03:39:46,160 --> 03:39:49,600
» I like that as an option. Customer

5144
03:39:48,080 --> 03:39:52,080
Wharton.

5145
03:39:49,600 --> 03:39:57,120
» So, this will be my seventh time going

5146
03:39:52,080 --> 03:40:02,399
through this process and it is uh never

5147
03:39:57,120 --> 03:40:04,160
uh flawless. Um and it's um almost

5148
03:40:02,399 --> 03:40:07,279
always

5149
03:40:04,160 --> 03:40:11,200
um we discover some kind of flaw from

5150
03:40:07,279 --> 03:40:14,479
the previous pro way that we did it. I

5151
03:40:11,200 --> 03:40:16,399
mean I think that one way to avoid that

5152
03:40:14,479 --> 03:40:20,160
is to

5153
03:40:16,399 --> 03:40:23,200
give some questions uh or give a list of

5154
03:40:20,160 --> 03:40:26,160
questions and let the applicant select

5155
03:40:23,200 --> 03:40:29,279
which questions they want to answer. Um

5156
03:40:26,160 --> 03:40:30,800
and that might give us you know, we

5157
03:40:29,279 --> 03:40:32,399
could have it some questions that we

5158
03:40:30,800 --> 03:40:33,840
want everyone to answer and then some

5159
03:40:32,399 --> 03:40:35,439
questions that it's like you can pick

5160
03:40:33,840 --> 03:40:38,319
which one of these you want us to you

5161
03:40:35,439 --> 03:40:41,520
want us to know. Um, and then that way

5162
03:40:38,319 --> 03:40:43,279
we might be able to kind of get

5163
03:40:41,520 --> 03:40:46,080
not be getting the same thing over and

5164
03:40:43,279 --> 03:40:48,640
over, but also be getting new and and

5165
03:40:46,080 --> 03:40:50,800
relevant information. Um, but I'm sure

5166
03:40:48,640 --> 03:40:53,279
that there's probably some flaw in that

5167
03:40:50,800 --> 03:40:56,880
as well. But, um, that's the best thing

5168
03:40:53,279 --> 03:41:00,160
that I've thought of um to address this.

5169
03:40:56,880 --> 03:41:02,399
What what about to just merge some of

5170
03:41:00,160 --> 03:41:06,160
the ideas? We select some questions for

5171
03:41:02,399 --> 03:41:08,399
round two and we let them pick uh

5172
03:41:06,160 --> 03:41:10,640
» You know out of those questions to which

5173
03:41:08,399 --> 03:41:11,279
one they want to address. Um

5174
03:41:10,640 --> 03:41:15,359
» Sure

5175
03:41:11,279 --> 03:41:17,920
» I don't know. I I remember the the

5176
03:41:15,359 --> 03:41:19,680
process that I went through. It wasn't I

5177
03:41:17,920 --> 03:41:22,239
mean the flaw there that you guys didn't

5178
03:41:19,680 --> 03:41:24,720
select me but um that was the biggest

5179
03:41:22,239 --> 03:41:26,319
flaw. Chris looking at you. Um

5180
03:41:24,720 --> 03:41:29,040
» I know I

5181
03:41:26,319 --> 03:41:29,760
» Um but uh I would never forget that. Um

5182
03:41:29,040 --> 03:41:31,760
but uh

5183
03:41:29,760 --> 03:41:35,439
» The people the people of district 2

5184
03:41:31,760 --> 03:41:37,600
promptly informed us they disagreed. So

5185
03:41:35,439 --> 03:41:39,600
I'm glad that they did because this is

5186
03:41:37,600 --> 03:41:40,880
not this is the le this is the worst

5187
03:41:39,600 --> 03:41:45,439
part about being on the council.

5188
03:41:40,880 --> 03:41:47,920
» No, no, no. I I don't care. Um so Dan,

5189
03:41:45,439 --> 03:41:49,520
» My question we on round two, we're not

5190
03:41:47,920 --> 03:41:51,439
giving them the questions until we give

5191
03:41:49,520 --> 03:41:52,160
them the questions at round two.

5192
03:41:51,439 --> 03:41:53,840
» Right.

5193
03:41:52,160 --> 03:41:55,920
» Yeah. I think I think that's what we're

5194
03:41:53,840 --> 03:41:58,080
asking here is that from Sarah's point,

5195
03:41:55,920 --> 03:41:59,760
we we pick we can maybe pick out of a

5196
03:41:58,080 --> 03:42:01,120
hat or we say we're going to select

5197
03:41:59,760 --> 03:42:02,720
these questions to give them in round

5198
03:42:01,120 --> 03:42:03,680
two and this question you've given round

5199
03:42:02,720 --> 03:42:05,439
three.

5200
03:42:03,680 --> 03:42:07,680
» But isn't that what Sarah flagged as

5201
03:42:05,439 --> 03:42:09,840
like an odd um process?

5202
03:42:07,680 --> 03:42:12,000
» But but we but we give them all the same

5203
03:42:09,840 --> 03:42:13,520
question, but we don't tell them that

5204
03:42:12,000 --> 03:42:14,880
question until we come to that round

5205
03:42:13,520 --> 03:42:17,680
two.

5206
03:42:14,880 --> 03:42:19,120
» Is that what you're saying, Sarah? So, I

5207
03:42:17,680 --> 03:42:21,920
just remembered that there was a

5208
03:42:19,120 --> 03:42:23,520
fishbowl and there were random questions

5209
03:42:21,920 --> 03:42:25,359
that were in there and they drew out a

5210
03:42:23,520 --> 03:42:27,520
question and I got to answer it and then

5211
03:42:25,359 --> 03:42:30,880
they drew out a different question and

5212
03:42:27,520 --> 03:42:33,200
another candidate got to answer it and

5213
03:42:30,880 --> 03:42:37,760
at least from my perception and memory

5214
03:42:33,200 --> 03:42:41,279
of it, I felt like I got an easier

5215
03:42:37,760 --> 03:42:45,120
question and and I felt bad for the

5216
03:42:41,279 --> 03:42:46,800
other applicant in that process.

5217
03:42:45,120 --> 03:42:48,560
uh

5218
03:42:46,800 --> 03:42:50,960
hearing some of these and I think maybe

5219
03:42:48,560 --> 03:42:52,640
this was uh Council Member Wharton or

5220
03:42:50,960 --> 03:42:55,200
maybe Council Member Young's uh

5221
03:42:52,640 --> 03:42:56,720
suggestion. I think for round two, I

5222
03:42:55,200 --> 03:42:58,479
like the idea of like here are

5223
03:42:56,720 --> 03:43:01,279
recommended questions and then letting

5224
03:42:58,479 --> 03:43:03,760
the applicant select um from that pool

5225
03:43:01,279 --> 03:43:05,040
of recommended questions. That was your

5226
03:43:03,760 --> 03:43:06,800
suggestion. I know it was somebody's

5227
03:43:05,040 --> 03:43:08,960
idea. I'm trying to give credit trying

5228
03:43:06,800 --> 03:43:11,359
to give credit. whoseever idea it was,

5229
03:43:08,960 --> 03:43:14,399
I've aligned in that direction so that

5230
03:43:11,359 --> 03:43:17,120
we hear a diversity of responses um and

5231
03:43:14,399 --> 03:43:19,279
we are able to uh kind of compare

5232
03:43:17,120 --> 03:43:22,319
answers across candidates for those who

5233
03:43:19,279 --> 03:43:24,560
decide to answer the same question. Um I

5234
03:43:22,319 --> 03:43:27,439
would like to suggest and this is my

5235
03:43:24,560 --> 03:43:29,680
first rodeo on this so happy to defer to

5236
03:43:27,439 --> 03:43:32,239
other council members. I imagine there

5237
03:43:29,680 --> 03:43:36,560
will be around three and possibly around

5238
03:43:32,239 --> 03:43:39,359
four. Um maybe maybe not. Um, I would

5239
03:43:36,560 --> 03:43:41,920
like to leave subsequent rounds after

5240
03:43:39,359 --> 03:43:46,000
round two open for more specific and

5241
03:43:41,920 --> 03:43:49,040
tailored questions to the candidates.

5242
03:43:46,000 --> 03:43:51,359
» I I will be okay with that. Um, what if

5243
03:43:49,040 --> 03:43:54,319
we to throw a wrench in this whole

5244
03:43:51,359 --> 03:43:57,279
conversation, the last five minutes?

5245
03:43:54,319 --> 03:43:59,120
Who hates the idea of of rank choice

5246
03:43:57,279 --> 03:44:02,080
voting? I mean, we, you know, that's how

5247
03:43:59,120 --> 03:44:03,920
voters elect people. we just rank and

5248
03:44:02,080 --> 03:44:07,199
you know we just use the process and

5249
03:44:03,920 --> 03:44:09,600
it's just done in one ballot. Um it's a

5250
03:44:07,199 --> 03:44:11,520
little harder for your side. Um

5251
03:44:09,600 --> 03:44:15,199
potentially um

5252
03:44:11,520 --> 03:44:19,840
» I the reason I would say I'm hesitant to

5253
03:44:15,199 --> 03:44:21,279
do that but we do we do uh break it down

5254
03:44:19,840 --> 03:44:23,199
and we need to look at the percentage

5255
03:44:21,279 --> 03:44:26,560
year. If you have five candidates up

5256
03:44:23,199 --> 03:44:29,040
there where do we break the line off for

5257
03:44:26,560 --> 03:44:31,600
take the top two? Do we need unanimous

5258
03:44:29,040 --> 03:44:33,199
respon unanimous or do is it you know

5259
03:44:31,600 --> 03:44:36,319
you only need four.

5260
03:44:33,199 --> 03:44:38,720
» So it it needs to be a majority but we

5261
03:44:36,319 --> 03:44:42,000
also have to determine how the if a if

5262
03:44:38,720 --> 03:44:44,800
it isn't a majority how the next segment

5263
03:44:42,000 --> 03:44:46,319
next group of people would be um

5264
03:44:44,800 --> 03:44:48,000
defined. That's part of the resolution

5265
03:44:46,319 --> 03:44:49,760
that the attorney is preparing in

5266
03:44:48,000 --> 03:44:51,680
response to the state legislation. So

5267
03:44:49,760 --> 03:44:54,399
they asked that to be clarified before

5268
03:44:51,680 --> 03:44:56,399
the process is defined. So what I can

5269
03:44:54,399 --> 03:44:59,439
offer is that the attorneys are working

5270
03:44:56,399 --> 03:45:02,080
on the resolution to outline that plan

5271
03:44:59,439 --> 03:45:04,239
in respect of how you've done this in

5272
03:45:02,080 --> 03:45:06,880
the past and we would circle a draft

5273
03:45:04,239 --> 03:45:10,319
back to you for your review of that

5274
03:45:06,880 --> 03:45:12,560
voting process so that we secure the

5275
03:45:10,319 --> 03:45:15,279
reality that it must be a majority.

5276
03:45:12,560 --> 03:45:18,399
» Okay. And the the other thing is in the

5277
03:45:15,279 --> 03:45:20,800
past we've had some where uh we had two

5278
03:45:18,399 --> 03:45:21,840
candidates that were neck and neck and

5279
03:45:20,800 --> 03:45:26,160
we went through a couple different

5280
03:45:21,840 --> 03:45:28,880
rounds and and it uh changed some uh

5281
03:45:26,160 --> 03:45:30,800
votes there to make it. So I think that

5282
03:45:28,880 --> 03:45:33,359
would have and we selected the right

5283
03:45:30,800 --> 03:45:34,640
candidate uh but we may not have

5284
03:45:33,359 --> 03:45:37,040
selected the right candidate if we had

5285
03:45:34,640 --> 03:45:39,840
the right rate right. So that's that's

5286
03:45:37,040 --> 03:45:43,840
why I'm always hesitant on that. It may

5287
03:45:39,840 --> 03:45:47,040
shorten the process, but it may not be

5288
03:45:43,840 --> 03:45:49,279
the the uh the best outcome.

5289
03:45:47,040 --> 03:45:51,199
» Yeah, I'm okay if we don't do that and

5290
03:45:49,279 --> 03:45:56,080
we stick to the process that we have in

5291
03:45:51,199 --> 03:45:58,000
the past. Um we do it one round and then

5292
03:45:56,080 --> 03:45:59,680
we have some questions that we we

5293
03:45:58,000 --> 03:46:01,920
pre-select

5294
03:45:59,680 --> 03:46:04,640
um and we let them decide for which one

5295
03:46:01,920 --> 03:46:08,080
they want to answer. Um that sort of

5296
03:46:04,640 --> 03:46:10,479
meets both worlds of issues here. uh to

5297
03:46:08,080 --> 03:46:12,720
keep consistency but at the same time

5298
03:46:10,479 --> 03:46:15,920
allowing us to some flexibility on some

5299
03:46:12,720 --> 03:46:20,640
of the questions. Um

5300
03:46:15,920 --> 03:46:22,560
and then we maybe to your point, Council

5301
03:46:20,640 --> 03:46:24,720
Member Carlson,

5302
03:46:22,560 --> 03:46:27,760
allow for some flexibility if there are

5303
03:46:24,720 --> 03:46:31,600
more rounds. Um you know, anybody has

5304
03:46:27,760 --> 03:46:34,800
any thoughts about that process?

5305
03:46:31,600 --> 03:46:36,319
My only worry is having uh a a question

5306
03:46:34,800 --> 03:46:37,680
come out that hasn't really been vetted

5307
03:46:36,319 --> 03:46:39,920
from the rest of the council members. So

5308
03:46:37,680 --> 03:46:41,359
that's and then directed to those. I

5309
03:46:39,920 --> 03:46:43,120
think the questions that we ask, no

5310
03:46:41,359 --> 03:46:44,560
matter where we ask should all be vetted

5311
03:46:43,120 --> 03:46:47,120
and we all should agree to those

5312
03:46:44,560 --> 03:46:48,479
questions, not have you know Dugan say,

5313
03:46:47,120 --> 03:46:50,080
"Oh, this is my question now that we've

5314
03:46:48,479 --> 03:46:52,640
gone all this stuff." It should be

5315
03:46:50,080 --> 03:46:53,680
vetted by all of us and we kind of it's

5316
03:46:52,640 --> 03:46:55,920
written and we just

5317
03:46:53,680 --> 03:46:58,160
» So let's do this for round number three.

5318
03:46:55,920 --> 03:47:00,560
We don't just get to throw a question

5319
03:46:58,160 --> 03:47:02,880
out there. We coordinate what question

5320
03:47:00,560 --> 03:47:04,960
we're gonna in the majority manner.

5321
03:47:02,880 --> 03:47:06,800
Yeah. You know, four of us at least

5322
03:47:04,960 --> 03:47:08,160
decide what question to ask if there is

5323
03:47:06,800 --> 03:47:10,080
a round three and four.

5324
03:47:08,160 --> 03:47:11,840
» And then we ask that question.

5325
03:47:10,080 --> 03:47:12,720
» So we don't just throw random questions

5326
03:47:11,840 --> 03:47:14,560
on there.

5327
03:47:12,720 --> 03:47:16,602
» It may be random questions, but maybe a

5328
03:47:14,560 --> 03:47:18,000
majority of us agreeing to that

5329
03:47:16,602 --> 03:47:19,279
[laughter] random question.

5330
03:47:18,000 --> 03:47:20,720
» Okay,

5331
03:47:19,279 --> 03:47:21,439
» Perfect. Um,

5332
03:47:20,720 --> 03:47:22,560
» Clear as mud.

5333
03:47:21,439 --> 03:47:25,120
» Clear as mud. Great.

5334
03:47:22,560 --> 03:47:27,120
» I think most of it is clear as mud or is

5335
03:47:25,120 --> 03:47:29,279
actually really clear. And then on this

5336
03:47:27,120 --> 03:47:30,800
voting process thing, we'll report back

5337
03:47:29,279 --> 03:47:32,880
to you guys. We'll probably take time in

5338
03:47:30,800 --> 03:47:33,760
another announcement to just get really

5339
03:47:32,880 --> 03:47:35,840
clear on that.

5340
03:47:33,760 --> 03:47:38,399
» No, and I appreciate it is a very clear

5341
03:47:35,840 --> 03:47:40,479
process. I I do appreciate the staff

5342
03:47:38,399 --> 03:47:42,239
working on these. Uh I know that we're

5343
03:47:40,479 --> 03:47:43,840
working through the budget, working

5344
03:47:42,239 --> 03:47:46,080
through all of the things. It's a big

5345
03:47:43,840 --> 03:47:49,600
deal. Uh I also appreciate the

5346
03:47:46,080 --> 03:47:51,439
consistency that this council um you

5347
03:47:49,600 --> 03:47:54,319
know is following uh with in this

5348
03:47:51,439 --> 03:47:56,000
process um and following the the same

5349
03:47:54,319 --> 03:47:59,520
generally the same process we always

5350
03:47:56,000 --> 03:48:01,279
followed to to solve this this issue. So

5351
03:47:59,520 --> 03:48:02,880
um I think that that means a lot to me

5352
03:48:01,279 --> 03:48:05,120
and I think it should mean a lot to the

5353
03:48:02,880 --> 03:48:08,080
community. So thank you.

5354
03:48:05,120 --> 03:48:11,199
» Sorry just one more question um because

5355
03:48:08,080 --> 03:48:14,960
that's the word of the hour. Um, I

5356
03:48:11,199 --> 03:48:16,399
imagine that uh applicants may want may

5357
03:48:14,960 --> 03:48:18,000
have questions about can I talk to

5358
03:48:16,399 --> 03:48:20,399
current council members about their

5359
03:48:18,000 --> 03:48:22,800
experience to introduce myself and what

5360
03:48:20,399 --> 03:48:25,439
I'd like to do confirming that that is

5361
03:48:22,800 --> 03:48:28,479
allowed in the process or are there any

5362
03:48:25,439 --> 03:48:31,760
restrictions or um items we should be

5363
03:48:28,479 --> 03:48:33,840
aware of when talking to applicants?

5364
03:48:31,760 --> 03:48:36,560
» Sure.

5365
03:48:33,840 --> 03:48:39,439
Thanks for asking the question. there's

5366
03:48:36,560 --> 03:48:42,160
been a an adjustment in the practices in

5367
03:48:39,439 --> 03:48:44,399
order to keep the relationships clear

5368
03:48:42,160 --> 03:48:46,640
from your voting. Right? So there have

5369
03:48:44,399 --> 03:48:49,040
been an opportunity generally what what

5370
03:48:46,640 --> 03:48:51,040
has been followed in my recollection and

5371
03:48:49,040 --> 03:48:52,560
Lehwa can correct me if I'm wrong it was

5372
03:48:51,040 --> 03:48:53,920
that if someone wanted to speak to you

5373
03:48:52,560 --> 03:48:55,199
or wanted to share more about their

5374
03:48:53,920 --> 03:48:57,520
experience it was encouraged that they

5375
03:48:55,199 --> 03:48:59,040
provide a recommendation letter or that

5376
03:48:57,520 --> 03:49:01,279
they put something in writing so that it

5377
03:48:59,040 --> 03:49:03,520
can be within within the public record

5378
03:49:01,279 --> 03:49:04,880
and it could be directed it's

5379
03:49:03,520 --> 03:49:07,199
essentially directed to the entire

5380
03:49:04,880 --> 03:49:09,040
council on their priorities so that it's

5381
03:49:07,199 --> 03:49:10,319
beyond the application. It's just a

5382
03:49:09,040 --> 03:49:12,479
recommendation. It's not required.

5383
03:49:10,319 --> 03:49:15,120
That's totally optional, but there is

5384
03:49:12,479 --> 03:49:17,520
not a legal component about any

5385
03:49:15,120 --> 03:49:19,520
relationship or discussion you have with

5386
03:49:17,520 --> 03:49:22,080
any of the applicants as a council

5387
03:49:19,520 --> 03:49:25,720
member. And I would refer to Mark for

5388
03:49:22,080 --> 03:49:25,720
any legal guidance.

5389
03:49:28,239 --> 03:49:31,840
» We're good.

5390
03:49:29,760 --> 03:49:37,479
» Okay. Thank you everyone. This meeting

5391
03:49:31,840 --> 03:49:37,479
is journ. Thank you. [laughter] Bye.

5392
03:49:50,528 --> 03:49:52,548
» [music]