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» of this is your go-to resource for
staying engaged on projects across the
city. And we encourage residents to
follow their favorite project or visit
regularly for ongoing opportunities to
participate. Next slide.
I want to give a shout out to our public
lands team for putting on a terrific uh
Fourth of July party July 3rd party at
Jordan Park. The drone show was an
overwhelming success with nearly 15,000
residents attending this year's event,
which is an increase of over 5,900
residents compared to last year.
We are grateful for council staff's help
in supporting and promoting the event
through their social media channels
which helped expand awareness and
encourage the community to participate.
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The waste and recycling division is
offering multiple free community
recycling events throughout the rest of
July as part of an EPA recycling grant
program. Already passed was the bike fix
it clinic at the Sornson and Unity
Center, but upcoming opportunities
include collection of hard to recycle
mater
on July 18th and plastic free July
workshops at branch libraries. They've
launched a shape SLC page supporting
this effort. All events are listed on
this page which is also soliciting
community input around recycling in
general.
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The Arts Council has kicked off Mondays
in the Park, which is a free summer
concert series featuring traditional
folk music and cultural dance
performances from Utah's diverse
communities. Since 1987, the program has
celebrated the cultural traditions that
enrich our state, bringing audiences
together for evenings of live music,
dance, and community. We encourage
community to bring a lawn chair,
blanket, family, and friends to enjoy
these free outdoor performances. The
first event was yesterday and will
continue through August 17th at Liberty
Park. Of course, the Arts Council is
also busy with the Twilight Concert
Series. The next Joe is show is July
17th with Freddy Gibbs and will end on
October 1st with the war on drugs.
Next slide.
Uh, Love Your Block wanted to share a
quick update. Projects from the fall
2025 cycle are nearly complete. A few
highlights include
uh the mountains and monarch uh mural
which is a beautiful mural depicting
mountain landscapes with monarch
butterflies which symbolize
transformation, resilience and hope. It
is located on the Sornson uh unity
center next to the entry to youth city.
This mural was created by local muralist
Lizzie Winganger with aid of the
community.
Also, the bottom photo is the Popular
Grove precinct mural, which was brought
to life by another local artist, Kendall
Chafield, in collaboration with the
Popular Grove Community Council. This is
a new westside mural featuring peacocks
and local wildlife along the Jordan
River corridor. This project celebrates
the character of Popular Grove while
adding color and vibrancy to a highly
visible public space. You can find this
on the west wall of the Popular Grove
precinct. The next round of projects
will be announced later this month.
Uh if there's no questions, I'll kick it
over to Andrew.
» Just one general question for the
council to or the admin to look into uh
at the next uh briefing would be in the
springtime. We talked about the uh water
conservation efforts that the city's
city corporation has undertaken uh after
the the mayor declared stage two
drought. and then the how well the city
itself is doing on on water
conservations. And it would be nice to
see uh get an update on on our efforts
and the city side and also the city
corporation side and also the city side.
What's the next time?
>> Yeah, that's a great suggestion. We can
» Yeah, that's a great suggestion. We can
bring that back and work on an update.
>> Thank you.
» Thank you.
>> All right, council members, you can see
» All right, council members, you can see
on the screen uh in June we were
functionally full of the homeless
resource centers. I say that because the
numbers look funky right now. uh
generally when we have a decrease in the
official beds, but they're overfilled.
You get a 130% capacity kind of issues.
So, it looks weird. Um just know that
they are full, including all of the um
the West Valley ones and the North
Temple uh beds we've had for a while.
And there'll be a lot of transition in
those beds going forward with the plan
being for the West Valley shelter become
full-time, which it hasn't officially
been to this point, and the North Temple
one of 1990 transitioning to housing
over the next year. Uh, plus the other
piece here is the encampment impact
mitigation work and rapid response team
work. Again, they've done a great job of
catching up on all of their requests.
And so really, they can probably get to
requests within a day or two. Um, so
they're taking uh have a weekly uh
scheduling meeting. They're looking at
where they think they need to go, but
they're also taking everything that
comes in every day and trying to get to
it as soon as possible. So we highly
recommend folks use my SLC app to report
issues and concerns and requests for
service. Any questions on that?
Next slide.
» On the micro shelters, the I know we got
uh the office of homeless services got
some funding back in June, July sometime
to continue on the the building of the
new buildings are what's the status on
those and and move and maybe possible
move in dates for new uh residents.
So uh the state office of homeless
services opened uh on that site 50 beds
uh two years ago now almost we're
looking at and they had begun
construction on the second phase of an
additional 50 beds at that location. Uh
they halted construction temporarily uh
pending new funding which they did get
to what your point was and I believe
they've rec restarted construction on
the second phase. I don't have an EA um
estimated time of opening those but I
can get that back for you.
>> Great. Thank you.
» Great. Thank you.
uh resource fairs. There was one on the
12th of Library Square. If you've been
here on those Fridays, you'll notice it
looks a little bit like uh the arts
festival in Miniature. Uh there's uh
upwards of 40 plus booths. There's
hundreds of people there. Um it's really
a big big deal. So, I recommend if you
can get out to those um it's well worth
your time. At the last one, we had 22
housing applications completed with the
Housing Authority of Salt Lake County,
which is or Salt Lake City Skinny,
excuse me. Um and 41 people were seen by
the justice court and that includes 124
cases heard on site. Uh four um donated
dental evaluations and extractions. You
can see the haircuts, vaccinations by
the county health department. Um really
beneficial uh work being done there. The
next resource fair will be on the 17th,
same location at Library Square, and
this time it'll be co-hosted by the
other side village. Uh and a shout out
to the Haven for hosting the last one
with uh the heart team. The last piece
is community corner Monday through
Tuesdays uh 9 to 1 at 7 West 200 South
and we have some smaller providers who
are there frequently and it changes
every week. Um I know council member
Young I believe was scheduled to come
see it this next week potentially. So
also open to any of you visiting seeing
what's going on there to give you an
insight into what we what you're going
to see. The last piece is because of the
heat uh the county and the city have
traditionally in the summertime opened
up public spaces like libraries and
recreation centers um for folks who need
to get out of the heat. That's
continuing this year. They've extended
the hours uh last week with the heat. Uh
so recommend folks go to those locations
for water, bathrooms, shade. Um I think
they were open till 8:00 p.m. last week
to make sure that folks had a place to
get inside for. So uh we're trying to do
our best to help with folks at this
time. Any other questions?
>> Any questions from council members
» Any questions from council members
online? We're also joined online by
council member Petro. Sorry I missed
you.
>> All right.
» All right.
>> No additional questions. Thank you.
» No additional questions. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
» Thank you.
>> Thank you.
» Thank you.
>> All right. We're going to go ahead and
» All right. We're going to go ahead and
move to our next um item, which is
anformational climate forward SLC plan
update. Uh we'll be joined at the table
by Austin Kimmel, uh council policy
analyst, Sophia Nichols, sustainability
deputy director, and Katherine Wifles,
senior air quality and environmental
program manager. Austin, I'll turn it
over to you.
>> Thanks, council members. I'll just
» Thanks, council members. I'll just
provide a quick introduction before
turning it over to sustainability. Um,
this is anformational briefing from
sustainability on climate forward SLC,
which is an update to
uh, excuse me, which is an update to the
city's climate strategy. Uh, climate
forward SLC seeks to outline strategies
to help the city achieve its renewable
and energy
and carbon emissions reduction goals,
which the council established in 2016
and 2019. This is the department's
second update to the council following
its first presentation in November of
last year. The plan is expected to
return to the council later this year or
early next year for formal for formal
consideration.
The goal today is for the council to
receive an update on the plan's
development and learn more about the
plan's existing conditions report which
assesses current and future climate and
other environmental challenges. The
department will also touch on other
steps it is taking as part of the
developing plan and policy questions can
be found on page one of the council
staff report. They include topics about
title 2 and defining the department's
role in city code
with other departments, public
engagement, and others. And with that, I
will turn it over to Sophia and
Katherine.
» Thank you for that great introduction.
Um, all right. I'll we'll jump right in.
Next slide, please. I'm Katherine uh
Whiffles. Um so yes, today we just want
to um go over where we've been, what
we've learned throughout this process,
and some of the next steps in the plan
development. Next slide.
Next slide.
Um, so Austin already touched on this,
but we've established some ambitious
goals in the city u around achieving
100% renewable energy by 2030 and
reducing our emissions by uh 80% by
2040. And this plan again just seeks to
reaffirm um our commitment to those
goals and refresh our approach. Next
slide.
Um and as uh th this plan we leveraged
the some EPA funding that we received
for SL clear the Salt Lake energy air
road map. So this is a climate action
plan for the Salt Lake uh MSA so Tilla
County and Salt Lake County and it was
informed by um input from local
government, community members and other
experts. Um, and we've leveraged a lot
of the work that happened through that
process to start developing a plan
specifically for Salt Lake City. Next
slide.
Um, and as part of that, uh, process, we
created, uh, the environmental justice
resident committee. Uh, this was a
committee representing the west side.
Uh, and we learned a lot from them and
we used their input uh, on the SLC clear
plan. We're also using a lot of those
lessons learned in our own climate
action plan. Um the existing committee
doesn't I mean excuse me the original
form of this committee doesn't exist
anymore but they are the next iteration
is starting work again uh supporting
some of work at the University of Utah.
So we're looking for opportunities to
engage with them uh for the next phase
of our the development of our plan. Next
slide please. Okay. So now what we've
learned next slide. Um, as uh Austin
mentioned, we just finished our existing
conditions report. Uh, this is a report
that summarizes all of our climate
hazards, vulnerabilities, the impacts to
our community. Uh, it includes a green
greenhouse gas emissions inventory,
summarizes the community input uh,
process that we went through. And we
also um assessed all the city uh plans,
policies and programs that touch on
climate uh to understand the entire
landscape of climate related work
happening here in the city. Next slide.
So there's a lot of information in that
plan in that report. I'm just going to
touch on some of the main takeaways uh
really quickly. Um but our main
challenge here in the city is extreme
heat. Um our city is warming faster than
ever. 2025 was our hottest year on
record and 2026 is on track to beat
that. Um, and we one of the things that
we wanted to do is to see how the
community is going to be feeling these
impacts. So, this is just an example.
The map you see in this slide is just an
example of the heat um severity in
different areas of the city. So, you can
see that the west side is disproport
disproportionately impacted by extreme
heat.
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uh drought uh our increasing
temperatures are worsening our drought
conditions. We've been in drought since
for you know 71% of the weeks since 2000
and these conditions are are shrinking
the shrinking gray salt lake is also
worsening those drought conditions by
weakening lake effect snow and and that
hydraological cycle. So it's just
creating this dangerous loop. Next
slide.
Uh flooding is um another common uh and
costly natural disaster here in Utah and
our increasing temperatures is worsening
uh this um this as well. Our warmer air
can hold more moisture and that's
creating leading to more intense short
duration storms that are overwhel
overwhelming our storm water systems.
This causes significant damage to
infrastructure, homes uh in the city and
um only 5% of residents in Utah carry
flood insurance. So it can it's an
impactful um an impactful condition or
situation related to climate. Next
slide.
Uh wildfires. So we face an elevated
risk of wildfires as we are well aware
uh this summer. uh our fire season is
longer and more severe than it's been in
the past. It's a 100 days longer than it
was in the 70s. Um and this comes of
course with significant risk to
residents um homes and infrastructure as
well as um air the air quality impacts
that come from that. Next slide.
So this is just a very brief overview of
all the impacts. There's a lot more
information in our report. Um, but you
know, all of these impacts pose some
serious risks to our community. Uh, it
is a health and safety risk to all of
our community members, especially the
frontline community uh members that are
just more vulnerable to these threats
and um, you know, it's more difficult to
recover from these events as well.
uh the cost of living is going to be
impacted whether it's uh increasing
energy costs uh health care costs or
insurance costs all of these things uh
will be impacted there also economic
impacts uh we see that with our ski
industry after this this winter but also
impacts to your agriculture brine shrimp
industry and also just re you know um
these extreme weather events can uh
reduce productivity in a lot of uh
industries ries as well. So there's um a
lot of different types of economic
impacts that can happen from these
events and generally these climate
stressors are going to decrease the
quality of life um if we don't take
action. So a lot of other impacts are
listed in the in our plan but these are
just some of the reasons why we need to
be paying attention to to these
conditions.
Next slide.
So we asked our community um about how
they what they feel about climate, what
they you know what their understanding
is, what kinds of um concerns they have
and uh generally we saw a lot of strong
support for the city to engage in
climate um action. We have uh the top
five actions that the city should
prioritize are listed here. But reducing
air pollution was definitely uh one of
the top actions, but shifting to clean
renewable energy um and green spaces and
trees is another um other two important
ones. Next slide.
As far as how to prioritize our actions,
residents want to see things that reduce
pollution, but they're also interested
in actions that have multiple benefits
like pollution reduction, job creation,
saving money, those kinds of things.
Next action or next slide. Um, and then
we also surveyed the business community.
Um we uh heard uh that their top
concerns related to climate are health
and safety of their employees, supply
chain disruptions as well as property
and infrastructure damage due to extreme
weather. Um and we also heard that
businesses agreed that taking action on
climate is important for the health of
our economy. So we saw some support from
that community as well. Next slide.
Okay. So those are the main things with
our report and I'll turn the time over
to Sophia if you want these.
>> All right.
» All right.
So then the question is what should Salt
Lake City do about this and how how
organized should we be in planning for
climate both from a mitigation
perspective and a climate um resiliency
perspective which I'll talk about here
in a minute. Next slide.
So again, uh the goals in in undertaking
this process and bringing it to you all
for consideration is that we would like
to reaffirm our pre-existing goals from
the joint resolution. Uh we would like
to prioritize climate strategies that
are scalable and equitable and we would
like to understand where there are gaps
either uh challenges or opportunities.
Next slide.
So, one thing that's important to
distinguish is that there are uh uh
different buckets of of work. So,
oftentimes when we talk about climate
action, we're talking about climate
mitigation. These are things like
supporting renewable energy, um actions
that uh reduce our our transportation
emissions, just other all that kind of
bucket of work that's around reducing
pollution. But it's also to think
important to think about and and have
some good um strategic thought around
climate resiliency. So the city itself
has has has always had work that happens
in climate resiliency. This is a big
part of what the public utilities
department does. Of course, the fire
department. I would say many departments
and divisions in the city are are
working frontline on climate resiliency
but not necessarily um um uh we're not
necessarily thinking about it in those
ways and and and organizing it um in
perhaps ways that we could for uh
transparency sake. Next slide.
So as we uh are perceiving it in the
plan and certainly as the city itself
has done for quite a while um our role
in climate action is um multiaceted.
So first what are we doing with our
municipal municipal operations
and it's important we believe to lead by
example transitioning our operations and
facilities towards clean and electric
alternatives and adapting our operations
to withstand climate impacts.
Second is policies. Continuing to adopt
policies that accelerate renewable
energy, energy and efficient electrified
buildings, sustainable and sustainable
transportation
equity, ensuring that our programs and
policies benefit the residents with the
greatest need and those that are most
vulnerable to climate threats, rising
energy prices, and other factors. And
finally, that climate resiliency and
adaptation piece. uh being thoughtful in
how are we doing enough to plan and
prepare for the climate impacts that we
know are already happening and that are
more to come. Next slide.
So this process just seeks to organize
what we in sustainability all already do
but doing it um under the umbrella of a
plan. Um and really it it's been a great
opportunity to bring departments
together to have a lot of these
conversations. So we've done a lot of
internal engagement across departments
both on the mitigation front and the
climate resiliency front. So this is
just a a description of how uh climate
action is already happening across the
city and of course it's already a
priority across many departments that we
see reflected in other policies, plans
and programs and the climate forward SLC
plan seeks to bring together this this
work to create a unified framework and
and identify areas where aligned
strategies are needed. Next slide.
And then you might be thinking well what
does it mean to implement a plan? Um and
uh you all are the planning experts. Um
so we look forward to to getting your
your feedback and and um insight into
this. Uh what we are proposing is that
this is a framework to guide decisions
and helping to direct resources towards
effective climate solutions. So it's
looking at um what we can do with
current resources.
Certainly, we need to recognize our
funding realities when thinking about
implementation just like we do with any
plan, right? there's um an importance to
having having a plan in lean times and
in more flush times helps us be ready
for when funding does come um hopefully
again from the federal government as
well as from the private sector other
philanthropic opportunities as well as
just making use of efficiencies within
the city itself that we can that we can
uh seek to leverage.
And next slide.
So looking ahead, we are there at the
gold star. Um we did a lot of engagement
uh last summer and fall um that
Katherine summarized earlier. We did
online surveys. We did intercept
surveys. We did um uh stakeholder
focused engagement. We spent a lot of
time on that existing conditions report
because we realized that we had not uh
there wasn't something like that that
existed yet. So, it's a really great
resource. Now, we're in the next phase
of stakeholder engagement and preparing
um more detailed strategies to include
in the plan. And then we are hoping to
bring this back for consideration
um probably more like late winter time
period, late 2026 I should say. Next
slide.
And that's it.
Thank you so much for this presentation.
And when you said winter, all I could
think about was please include snow.
Like hope that we have some snow during
that period. Um I'll start with any
folks online if there are any questions
and then move to those of us who are in
person.
>> No questions from me. Thank you.
» No questions from me. Thank you.
Uh, chair, I would actually like to ask
um is there is there a way without
maxing out the capacity of the
sustainability department
for us to respectfully consult with you
as we're working through. I I love all
of the precepts that you've set here and
the trajectory you're offering us. I
feel like there are decisions that we
make that we don't ever see coming.
There's things like that I've learned
about like deconstructing projects that
might come in front of us for demolition
and that would allow us to mitigate
um negative environmental impacts. And
is there a way for us to consult with
you as things evolve without damaging
your capacity that would allow us to not
just follow in these footsteps but also
maximize opportunities as they arise in
front of us?
>> Yeah, I I I really appreciate that. Uh
» Yeah, I I I really appreciate that. Uh
thank you. I think that's exactly what
we're hoping to to to do through this
plan is to just have that conversation
about are there gaps, are there
opportunities where we we can um either
share what we're already doing or be in
alignment on anything further that's
needed. Um, we do have ordinances and
and policies in place that uh exist
prior to this plan that that are going
to continue to exist, including around
construction and demolition, waste,
including around energy benchmarking,
um, and a variety of other things. So,
we we still have a body of of of ongoing
work that we we already do, but I think,
um, yes, we're we're definitely, uh,
looking forward to that conversation. if
you have any specifics you'd like to
share with council staff for us.
Yeah.
>> All right. Look into the room for
» All right. Look into the room for
questions. We'll start with uh council
member Napier Pierce.
>> Thank you so much. This is uh terrific.
» Thank you so much. This is uh terrific.
I'm just wondering if um there are
opportunities for grants. Is that part
of your policy to be kind of exploring
other relationships like the Bezos grant
that you just got and and other, you
know, federal grants if that ever
happens again?
>> Yes. And that's a big reason why we
» Yes. And that's a big reason why we
think having this plan that hopefully uh
is something that um you'll want to
adopt can be so helpful because
oftentimes having an adopted climate
plan is the foundation for being
competitive with all sorts of different
types of grants. And we do see our
function as the department um supporting
the entire city team in applying for and
uh thinking strategically and working on
grants and we were very busy in 2023
through today. So um including um
supporting the the Bezos one that just
came in. So yes, that we we do think
that that's a big reason to have the the
plan. Yeah. And we're also looking at
other more um uh creative funding
solutions that that we've seen other
cities across the the country use. And
so we're hoping to provide some of that
uh some of some of those ideas in the
plan as well.
>> Yeah.
» Thank you for the briefing and I
appreciate all the the great work. Uh I
mean we're leading the way in this in
the state um from right here in your
department. So I appreciate all that.
And so I also want to how do we uh take
our plan and and see if we can bring
other cities because we're all attached
to each other. We all have the same, you
know, UTA does does not just operate in
Salt Lake City. How do we get the more
buses? How do we get more resiliency and
even the mitigation side of the house
because that the climate doesn't know
the boundaries. So h how do we uh take
this and move it forward to this to the
next level as far as the state is is is
concerned on funding uh and how how can
we help you do that through the league
or through use talk clean energy or
other
>> places uh so that our dollar goes
» places uh so that our dollar goes
further than just in Salt Lake City
because if you look at that heat map our
heat map for the west side is it's red
but that's probably red all the way down
I-15
>> to St. George and beyond. So, how do we
» to St. George and beyond. So, how do we
help help ourselves help them too and
and work through that
at the at the county, state was front,
regional area.
» I think having uh this as an example um
Salt Lake City is often the example for
other communities in Utah. So, I think
that first and foremost is useful to be
able to to hopefully show them something
that's simple and current and provides
that uh um those best practices. Um and
then we very much are always working to
collaborate as much as possible across
Salt Lake City boundaries. Clearly, Utah
renewable communities is the biggest
example of that. Most recently, I think
our um our urban agriculture and our
food program certainly cross Salt Lake
City boundaries, electrified
transportation, transit. Um as part of
the EPA grant that we referenced in the
beginning, we did that was a regional
plan and we did convene um governments
from across the uh Salt Lake County and
Tula County area. So, we want to
continue to do that and are um um
looking forward to having some more
tangible things we can talk about. But I
will say we did develop some blueprints
out of that um process that are a little
more bite-size. So,
>> okay. Thank you.
» okay. Thank you.
>> We'll share them with you and you guys
» We'll share them with you and you guys
can share them in all of your networks.
>> Yes. Right. Exactly. That's
» Yes. Right. Exactly. That's
[clears throat] what we need to do.
Thank you.
>> Yeah. Thank you.
» Yeah. Thank you.
>> All right. Well, I just want to express
» All right. Well, I just want to express
my profound appreciation to um your team
for gathering the ex in the any
consultants that were involved in this
gathering the existing conditions report
which frankly was really sobering. Um,
and I think any of us over the past few
weeks from fires to heat um to
continuing um scarcity in terms of our
water resources extremely sobering. And
so I appreciate the work that you've
done and putting together that report.
And I'm sure somebody wise said
something along the lines of nothing can
be changed until it's first faced. And
so I feel like by helping us face those
realities, we can adapt our future. And
so, thank you for for your work and I'll
be looking forward to uh receiving
updates as the plan progresses. Thank
you.
>> Thank you.
» Thank you.
>> Thank you very much.
» Thank you very much.
>> All right, let's move on to our next
» All right, let's move on to our next
item, item number three, which is an
ordinance uh regarding the ballpark
zoning map and text amendment. Uh we'll
be joined at the table by Kate uh policy
uh council policy analyst Sarah senior
policy uh excuse me senior planner um
David principal planner and Chrissy
Gilmore uh planning manager and looks
like we've also got McKenna um and
Hayden from the CRA available for
questions. Kate,
great. Thank you.
In December 2025, the CRA board adopted
the Ballpark Next Community Design Plan.
This this reszone application that's
before you today establishes zoning
regulations in alignment with that plan.
There are three major changes included
in it and I will let planning staff
review that. Um a few items before we
turn it over to them. Planning staff
does recommend approval of this.
Planning Commission had a public hearing
um on March 11th where seven members of
the public spoke in opposition of this
item, noting a desire for more public
green space, public safety concerns, and
additionally concerns about the height
and the the land use of a hotel. Uh the
planning commission did vote positively
um 5 to2 to recommend approval to you as
the city council um to consider
approval. And the commissioners who were
opposed noted that they they were not a
fan of the height um allowed in MU11.
There is a policy discussion before you
today. Um the city council may wish to
discuss different the differences
between MU11 and MU8. It has been
discussed in small group meetings and
with the public um and consideration for
you about which zone may be best for the
ballpark community. Um the comments have
expressed concern that um MU11 may be
allowed too much height and may um set a
precedent for the adjacent properties to
also upzone to that level. MU8 would
allow development of mixeduse areas
while facilitating an appropriate
transition to the surrounding
neighborhoods. Um, if the council is in
favor of modifying to MU8, it would be
helpful to for planning staff, um, if
you considered a straw poll today. With
that, I'll turn it over to Sarah and
David.
Thank you, Kate. So, this is a reszone
for the city-owned property that
includes the former baseball stadium and
the parking lot to the north. You can go
to the next slide. So, this slide
identifies the areas that are affected.
The total area is 14.8 acres. The
parking lot to the north is not shown as
F and that's about 4.3 acres. And then
the area to the south of 1300 South is
about 10 and a half acres.
And next slide.
So this proposal was initiated by the
mayor and um as was said earlier, the
applicant is the CRA. Um the proposal is
to implement the ballpark next community
design plan. It includes map and text
amendments. This shows the existing
zoning which is public lands and then
RMF-35
which is residential multif family with
a maximum height of 35 ft. And then the
text amendments allow for additional
height for buildings with frontage on
the south side of 1300 South and also
remove the ballpark sign overlay which
is in the public land section of the
sign chapter. So next slide.
And so this shows the existing
conditions. On the left is the stadium
and then the right is that parking lot
to the north. Next slide.
And then these images show the existing
zoning on the left and then the proposed
zoning on the right. The majority of the
area is proposed to be reszoned from
public lands to MU11. And then the RMF35
zoned area would be reszoned to MU5. And
then there's a splitzoned parcel that
would be reszoned to a combination of
MU11 and MU5. and then the CRA
eventually plans a subdivision of the
properties.
Um, as far as the proposal, the existing
public sands zoning is much more limited
than the p proposed zoning districts.
And the primary purpose of that zone is
for other public buildings and uses and
RMF35 allows for multifamily uses, but
not at the height or the density that's
proposed. So then next slide.
And then the text amendments to the MU11
zone would allow buildings with frontage
on the south side of 13 South to have
that height up to 150. And then the
buildings on 13th South would also need
to meet the enhanced active use
requirements. And these only apply to
the block between West Temple and Main
Streets. Next slide. And then as part of
the resoning process, staff identified
three key considerations for the review.
Um whether it implemented city plans and
policies. And then we also looked at the
ballpark next plan and the compatibility
with nearby properties and staff found
it to be consistent with plan salt lake
the thriving in place plan the 2022
ballpark station area plan the ballpark
next plan which is the long-term vision
for the site and so that concludes
staff's presentation and as was said
earlier staff from the CR are also here
and able to answer questions.
>> Thank you so much. We'll start with
» Thank you so much. We'll start with
folks online to ask if there are any
questions.
I do.
>> Please proceed. Go ahead, Sarah. Council
» Please proceed. Go ahead, Sarah. Council
member Young,
>> I appreciate it. Um, so I think my
» I appreciate it. Um, so I think my
question is going to be related to the
the height requirement um that's being
proposed. Can we hear about how MU11 was
identified and the need for the 150 ft
along 1300 cells? Like what are our what
are our goals within that? Um because
from my vantage point that seems very
different than the existing zones that
are in the area on the surrounding
parcels as well.
>> Yes. So the MU11 zone allows for up to
» Yes. So the MU11 zone allows for up to
125 ft and then there are some areas
within the zone that it can go up to 150
ft. As far as the plan itself and how
that was identified, I'd like to go
ahead and turn that over to the CRA to
answer that question. I think there's
enough room for Hayden here.
>> Good afternoon, council members. Hayden
» Good afternoon, council members. Hayden
Callaway with the CRA. Um to answer your
question um about the how this was
identified in the plan on 1300 South, we
do allow we the plan was adopted to
allow heights up to 150 ft. Some
buildings maybe up from 120 to 150 ft
and MU1 was the only zone that allowed
that height.
>> Got it. So I mean Okay. I'm I'm trying
» Got it. So I mean Okay. I'm I'm trying
to I guess understand a little bit more
of like the rationale of like what are
we hoping to achieve there with that
additional height? Like is this to allow
for more like places to live? Like what
what are we going for um within that
additional request?
>> Yeah, the goal of just the plan itself
» Yeah, the goal of just the plan itself
was to allow for just increased density
in the area. So that would result in
either more residential units, more
height to um to allow for with the
development potential and to increase
that in in line with the ballpark
station area plan as well.
>> Okay, I appreciate that. I will just uh
» Okay, I appreciate that. I will just uh
share for council's consideration. So I
do have concerns about the MU1. Um I
would say especially just in proximity
to the single family residential that is
like right behind that stadium. Um, and
you know, normally when I'm looking at
like heights, I'm I'm usually trying to
figure out like do we have like a
traditional like step down zone. I think
the proximity is a concern of mine. Um,
and so I'm I guess I just wanted to
share that that's a concern that I have
related to the request for MU11, whereas
I feel like MU8 feels like we would
still be achieving a significant amount
of density in that space. um without
necessarily going up to the full 150.
Thank you.
>> Thank you, council member. Any other
» Thank you, council member. Any other
questions or comments from online?
>> I'm good, but amplify everything
» I'm good, but amplify everything
Councilwoman Young just said.
>> Thank you, Council Member Petro.
» Thank you, Council Member Petro.
Uh move towards in the room. Any
questions, comments from folks here at
the table in the room?
So from
from your answer I'm getting it's not
that there's like one particular
um component of the plan that would be
excluded by MU 11 or we excluded by MU 5
>> 8.
» 8.
>> Yeah we
» Yeah we
>> five 11 whatever.
» five 11 whatever.
>> That's right. discussing with planning
» That's right. discussing with planning
like the land uses are virtually the
same and would still allow us to you
know go forward with the goals of the
plan if it was reszone to MU8 instead of
MU11.
» Okay. Thanks. I'd like to point out one
little item. Um there is a transition
area between the proposed MU11 and the
single family homes of MU5. just a a
small portion that um the plan calls out
as I believe town homes just so so so
there's awareness of that MU5 area.
>> Thanks Kate.
» Any other questions?
Um, well, I just want to uh express my
appreciation to uh all the staff, city
staff, both CRA and planning who has
worked on this reszone. And I know that
this ballpark next process is going to
be a very long and ongoing process as we
reimagine the future of that space. And
so I really want to express um my
profound appreciation to everybody who
has um brought us to this stage of the
process. I know we've got future stages.
Those are down the line, but thank you
for your work up to this stage. Um, I
just want to uh express that I'm excited
about this plan. I'm excited about the
ballpark next plan that was adopted and
approved um by the city council. Um, I'm
in favor of the MU8 uh reszone because
it is in alignment with that plan, but
also because it it does not um it's it's
more in alignment with the existing
zoning that is around the ballpark site.
Um, I feel uh pretty strongly that
reszone to an MU8 achieves the what was
outlined in the plan without necessarily
uh triggering an upzone of adjacent
nearby parcels that are not um uh
publicly owned as these parcels are. Um,
one thing I would like to state for the
record, I know we've stated this before
in in previous conversations about the
ballpark next plan, but is the current
plan to continue to maintain public
ownership of those lands um with the
execution of uh long-term possible
execution of long-term ground leases as
we move towards redevelopment.
>> Is that a question? Yeah. Um that is a
» Is that a question? Yeah. Um that is a
that is a priority um that was discussed
even last year as the plan was being
adopted that you as a board um had
communicated and that's you know that's
the lens we are looking at um as we go
through the disposition RFP process with
these properties. Um but we'll those
will be brought to you as as a board as
well when we as we go through that
process.
>> Thank you Hayden. I I know we've
» Thank you Hayden. I I know we've
previously discussed it but I just want
to reiterate it again because I think
when people hear redevelopment they
think oh the city's going to sell off
all of this land. And just to reiterate
that this continues to mean public
ownership of of those lands in terms of
city owning it. Um and the last thing
I'd love to just um emphasize is is the
connection between the ballpark next
plan and the agenda item we heard about
earlier just before this one which was
climate impacts and really wanting us as
we move forward with the implementation
of the ballpark next plan to think about
opportunities for maximizing green
space. I know that in the plan there was
a mention of green roofs. I know that
there's um an opportunity to really
think creatively as we reimagine this
site to also think about the climate
impacts um that we can mitigate in the
redesign of it. So I just wanted to
mention that. Um I see we have a straw
poll. Any other comments before we move
towards a straw poll?
» All right.
I will propose a straw poll because I
agree with uh your comments there and
the other comments from council member
Young and Petro. So I propose a straw
poll to determine support for reszoning
all parcels currently proposed for MU11
to MU8.
>> All right, show your feelings. And for
» All right, show your feelings. And for
those folks online,
>> my thumbs up.
» my thumbs up.
>> Council member Petro,
» Council member Petro,
>> thumbs up. All right, I think that's all
» thumbs up. All right, I think that's all
of us in favor of the of that um straw
poll and to emulate. All right, thank
you so much.
Okay, next on our item is item number
four, uh which is a text amendment for
shortterm uh rental business licenses
followup. Um Allison Roland will join us
at the table. Um council policy analyst
and we're also joined by Aruro Garcia
who's a director of finance operations.
And looks like we've got a special
guest, [laughter]
our city attorney, um uh
um Kelly Mark Catrell. Catrell, I I just
I just saw Mark and I just wanted to say
Mark, but Catrell, sorry.
>> You call me what you like. [laughter]
» You call me what you like. [laughter]
That's true.
>> Um also joining us at the table. Um,
» Um also joining us at the table. Um,
council policy analyst Allison, I'll uh
turn it over to you.
>> Thank you.
» Thank you.
Uh, as all of you may recall, in the
FY27 budget, you approved a new
short-term rental ordinance. Since then,
concerns have been raised by some owners
of these properties. So, this is
arranged as a follow-up conversation for
you with the administration to be able
to clarify any pending questions,
discuss any potential options for
changes to the ordinance.
Summary information on the changes
adopted with the budget can be found in
attachment C1 of the staff report, and
there are some potential policy
questions there as well. I will turn it
over to Arturo if you have a
presentation or want to speak about. Um
I can definitely
>> I think there were some questions that
» I think there were some questions that
were asked um to clarify.
One was the uh requirement behind
um the local contact. And so
having somebody available to address
general issues and be able to respond
within two hours can definitely help um
alleviate some of those costs to other
departments within the city. And these
are general questions that can be
addressed whether it's a parking issue
or a noise complaint um or any just
issue regarding the the property as
well. So that was one of the concerns.
Now the twoour may be reasonable it's
it's it's reasonable for u many issues.
um as I discussed
it's if council would like to um take
into account a shortening that time um
we can look into that.
Ex u excuse me. Uh thank you madam
chair. I wonder if it would be helpful
maybe just to take a step back set the
table. Uh would it be helpful to revisit
the ordinance and sort of what it
purports to do and then we can from
there perhaps uh address any questions
that council may have? Great. I'm happy
to do that if you like our tour.
>> Yeah. Great. Thank you.
» Yeah. Great. Thank you.
>> Um, so,
» Um, so,
uh, chapter 5.13 is a new ordinance, uh,
meant to deal with, uh, the licensing of
short-term rentals. Um, uh, it
addresses, I would say, and a lot of
this is taken from the one pager in your
materials on C1. Um but I see it
addressing one, two, three, four, five,
six
uh six sort of uh areas. Uh number one
is sort of the applicability. Uh where
is this or what it's applicable, right?
What short-term rentals are or what
dwellings are applicable? And it's going
to be any dwelling, even a partial
dwelling uh that is rented out for less
than 30 days where short-term rentals
are currently permitted. It doesn't
change where they're permitted. The
zoning stays the same. It's just where
they're permitted. Um, second item might
be the license requirement. Um, what is
what is required there? We're
establishing or creating a a license
requirement. Um, so number one, it uh
those who want to offer a short-term
rental must obtain a license. Uh, it is
unlawful for someone to operate,
maintain, advertise, or allow uh uh
someone to to maintain that without a
license. And each unit uh offered as an
STR as a short-term rental. I'll I'll
use S str uh must have a separate
license and only one license per person
under code or entity who's allowed to
sort of uh offer a short-term rental. Um
we are creating application standards.
Uh and this gets to uh the item that our
Turo was mentioning earlier. Um those
applying uh for a short-term rental must
provide an address and description of
the dwelling unit. They must provide
proof of legal ownership and authority
to operate a short-term rental. Uh, and
as part of that, if they're part of an
HOA or condominium association, they
must show that they also have the
approval and ability uh and consent from
those organizations to offer a
short-term rental.
An [clears throat] applicant must also
provide contact information uh for for
themselves, the property owner, and the
local contact person that Arturo was
mentioning. That local contact person
must be available 24 hours a day, be
able to receive text messages, reside or
have an office within Salt Lake County,
and be able to respond to concerns
raised by the city within 2 hours. Um,
we are also uh creating limits and
restrictions on short-term rentals. Um,
one of those is that short-term rentals
are limited in multifamily buildings to
10% of available units. So, if you have
uh a multif family building with 30
units, no more than three would be
eligible as a short-term rental. If
there's le if you have a multif family
building uh and there's less than 10,
you're allowed one uh unit as a
short-term rental. Um uh and on that, if
there's sort of a backlog, we I guess
the city would create a wait list for
those um who wanted to offer a
short-term rental but were unable to
because of the 10% limitation in that
multif family building. Um, licenses may
not be issued or renewed if there are
multiple unresolved like nuisance
citations, violations, etc. So, if uh
someone has a history of those um kinds
of citations on the property and they
apply for a short-term rental, uh they
they may not get uh license for that or
if they currently have one, uh we they
may not be renewed. Uh now if there's
consistent and we'll get down to
inspection enforcement about repeated
violations. Um
operation standards. We're uh
establishing operational standards for
short-term rentals. So short-term
rentals must uh abide by fire and
building code, especially occupancy
limits. Uh one off- streetet parking
stall uh for the exclusive uh use of a
short-term rental must be provided. Uh
there is a two night minimum uh required
for someone letting out a short-term
rental and also a 200 night maximum per
short-term rental unit. 200 night per
year maximum. Um also short-term rental
units must comply with noise, waste,
nuisance, building standards, transient
room taxes, records uh uh regarding
compliance and nights rented and provide
their license number and all
advertisements. Those are some of the
operational standards. Uh with respect
to an inspection enforcement,
um the city may review these
applications with fire and building
services. Um if there are violations of
a short-term rental, if they're
violating chapter 5.13, uh they can
receive a $1,000 civil penalty for every
seven calendar days where that violation
is present. Uh licenses can be suspended
or revoked for repeated violations
um under the code. So those that that's
a brief summary of what uh this
ordinance purports or aims to do. And so
I thought think that might be helpful
just to set the table and see if you
have any questions about that.
>> Thank you so much. Um I see uh Council
» Thank you so much. Um I see uh Council
Member Young has a question and then
we'll move to Council Member Petro for
any questions before moving to folks uh
in the room.
>> Great. Thank you. Um so I should have
» Great. Thank you. Um so I should have
asked this question sooner so apologies.
Um, but one of the things that I think
as as we've, you know, been mulling over
these these now changes, um, is our
ability to enforce all of these
different criteria. So, like the one
that jumps out at me is the 200 days.
Like how how does that even translate
into like something that would be
enforcable?
Is it based on a neighbor noting that
from their perception it's been occupied
more than 200 days? I'm just I guess I'm
just curious about what that looks like
logistically.
>> If I may, I don't know if Mary Beth
» If I may, I don't know if Mary Beth
Arturo have perspectives on that. Um,
it's my understanding and uh and I I I'm
filling in for an attorney who worked on
this, but it's my understanding that
certainly there can be complaint based
uh complaints that could lead to
investigations
um or the city may have information or
records to determine whether or not
violations have occurred. So, for
example, under the operational standards
u uh information that I provided or was
that the inspection enforcement? Well,
one
>> require them to people
» require them to people
Um, so it does require them to keep a
log of the nights that they rented. So
if if uh civil enforcement requires
requests that information that they're
required to provide that the the log
>> Okay. And I that's helpful. Um, I guess
» Okay. And I that's helpful. Um, I guess
it leads me to based on some some other
short-term rental conversations and
enforcement that we've had that feels
like something that would be easy to
like pull together that may not be
reflective of the true practice. Um, and
and I guess as I look at it from a city
perspective, it's challenging to gather
records to like assert whether or not
that log is accurate or not. So, um it's
not a deal breakaker, I guess, but I
just um you know, I I know in the
short-term rental space that in even in
like the um constituent issues that
we've had in the Sugar House area,
sometimes it's difficult to provide
enforcement on our existing code. Um,
and so to see all of these new
requirements, I'm just trying to like
wrap my head around what that looks like
and what our city capacity is to be able
to provide that structure and
enforcement. So, thank you.
>> Thank you, council member. And I I'll
» Thank you, council member. And I I'll
just note that as sometimes my attorneys
are involved in some of these
enforcement actions before our city
boards and certainly these can become
factual uh questions for a hearing
officer to determine and uh you know the
strength of the evidence or lack thereof
uh is certainly noted by hearing
officers in my experience.
» Thank you, Council Member Young. Uh
Council Member Petro, any questions uh
or comments?
>> Yes. Yes. Thank you. Um my question is
» Yes. Yes. Thank you. Um my question is
um when we were talking about the
multifamily, so my interest in this
ordinance is in restricting short-term
rentals in so much as they artificially
inflate
the uh pricing in our um housing market.
But I do want to keep it as a tool
especially for people who might find
themselves on the verge of housing
insecurity. So I'm thinking of you know
single moms, maybe elderly people who
are on fixed incomes who could either
leverage the whole of their property or
a room within their property via a
short-term rental option. So, as we were
talking about the multifamily, is that
referring explicitly to multifamily
properties that are only owned by one
entity
or would a condo that has multiple
owners be subject to those same quota?
>> It's my understanding reading the
» It's my understanding reading the
ordinance that it would apply to uh not
just a single entity owning one
building, but like a condominium as well
where there's multiple owners. I I have
to tell you I am fervently against that.
Um I'm watching in lots of places where
um either there's one entity that might
own several parcels within a building or
just shows up to more meetings and it
really creates a lack of equity um among
the the owners and users of the
property. So, I would really like to
revisit that portion of the ordinance
and go deeper on that. Um, I also am not
fully convinced that the one that the
twoight rule ameliorates the partying
that we want to. I'm open to persuasion
around it, but um I'm not fully
convinced on that. But thank you.
» Thank you, council member. Moving to
folks in the room questions. Council
member Dugan and then Council Member
Wharton,
>> can you talk about the two night minimum
» can you talk about the two night minimum
and the 200 night maximum? Why? What's
the reasoning on those?
What like why have a minimum or a
maximum?
>> Certainly, and I am happy to defer to
» Certainly, and I am happy to defer to
those who may have been more involved in
the discussion, but my understanding is
that a two-day minimum aims to reduce
rentals that are done solely for a
single party purpose. Now whether that
actually occurs or not, I think that's
to be seen. Uh but I think that was the
the goal behind the two-day minimum.
With respect to the 200 nights, it's my
understanding that that was chosen
because um most of this most of these
dwellings were initially instituted as
meant to be housing uh for for
individuals and uh not a hospitality
purpose. So they're fundamentally built
originally for a housing purpose, not a
hospitality purpose. and that this uh
200 night maximum for short-term rental
is meant to ensure that the units are
used for housing, not short-term rental,
for at least a third of the year. That
is what I've been told, but I don't know
if there's any additional considerations
that were contemplated.
Yeah, it it also um it also reduces uh
noise level like Mark said and uh
parking issues as well. Traffic uh for
the neighbors that are as if we have
more one night stays um there'd be more
foot traffic in that area.
>> Thank you.
» Thank you.
just kind of extend it is this I mean
we didn't come up with these numbers
were there was it coming from is there a
national standard or national level that
says hey a lot of cities have two nights
and 200 nights uh or is that Salt Lake
City decided hey we're going to go with
two nights and 200 nights and I I can't
believe that we came up with the numbers
and and just saying
they were born from somewhere just like
the two hours was born from somewhere
and is that the standards across the
United States in short-term rentals if
there is a standard of type of rental.
>> Council member Dugan, that's a great
» Council member Dugan, that's a great
question. I am not sure where the
numbers came from. I'm not sure if
anyone up here uh has that information.
>> We did look at other cities and what has
» We did look at other cities and what has
worked and what has not worked. Um this
is where uh uh Katherine who I work with
provided me that information that
provide uh that showed me things that
you know that worked in other cities and
preventing this um no sea level and
reducing it.
>> And is in is it in Utah is it the 200
» And is in is it in Utah is it the 200
does like Park City or Moab have the 200
night minimum on their places or
uh in the areas that have a lot of
short-term rentals?
I I don't know if I have the information
to that, but we can look into we'll look
into it.
>> Yeah. It just I'm just uh because
» Yeah. It just I'm just uh because
there's been a lot of we get a lot of
questions like people are saying, "Hey,
I got a short-term rental and you only
allow me to work, you know, twothirds of
the the nights of the year." And so my
businesses closed more than any other
business,
uh, you know, in a year. some businesses
close on a Sunday Monday and I'm closing
for you know 100 plus days instead of
that many or 100 you know 65 days. So
that that's a question for me and then
also just the two nights of the houses
is that uh does other cities across the
Wasatch front have similar restrictions
or or u availability?
Not not so much to
fall in line with everybody else but
also to understand where that boundary
lies in this short-term rentals. We
don't have numbers wise we have a lot of
short-term rentals percentage of our
home uh residencies it's low but numbers
wise it's high so I just want to get
that and how we also enforce both those
two minimum
how are we checking that one out again
it's a it's an ordinance do we are we
have a law but we have no way of
enforcing it
>> council member Dan do you only want Utah
» council member Dan do you only want Utah
cities or would you prefer Utah and
other cities
probably both Utah but also similar
states. Yes. Yeah.
>> Okay. We can provide that for you.
» Okay. We can provide that for you.
>> That'd be nice.
» And then it looks like uh council member
Napier Pierce and then uh Lua, do you
have a comment?
>> Okay, great.
» Okay, great.
>> Thank you so much. Uh how many
» Thank you so much. Uh how many
short-term rentals are in Salt Lake City
right now?
Uh, we've only issued two licenses since
July 1st.
>> Okay. Um,
» Okay. Um,
like you, I've been approached by a
number of people who are very concerned
about this. They made uh significant
strategic investments to have a
short-term rental as part of their
financial portfolio. Um, I'm just it
it's hard to gauge though what what the
scale is and if we do need to tinker
with this ordinance a little bit. Um,
I'm wondering if you've explored um
grandfathering in existing short-term
rentals, the problem will be because we
haven't licensed them before, we don't
know really, right? Um, so I I don't
know that I have a question. Thank you.
[laughter]
>> [gasps]
» [gasps]
>> Uh back to council member Wharton and
» Uh back to council member Wharton and
then uh Lua.
>> So I I think
» So I I think
um given the housing shortage, given the
fact that that we would prefer that
these units be used for housing,
especially I mean that's why we created
the zones allowing a certain number, but
overall the reason why we don't allow
them citywide is because of the housing.
Um, do we have any like
estimates? [clears throat]
Um, because you know there's I don't
know that there would how there could be
a formal way of measuring like how much
it competes with
um housing units. Do we know that from
like other cities or studies or anything
like that?
» We don't have that, but we could try and
find that.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if any other cities
» Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if any other cities
have maybe that do allow it citywide.
Um or I don't know how you would even
like cross-check that data, but um I met
with some constituents recently who um
were who were operating one and who
aren't in one of these zones where it's
allowed. we talked about the housing
issue um as one of the reasons uh or
maybe the chief reason why it's not
allowed citywide and they had that
question just you know how much does it
compete with housing um I mean I and the
answer I gave
and I know anecdotally is just um from
ones that have been in my neighborhood
or constituents that are that have
called multiple times about units and I
happen to know roughly what the unit
looks like and how big it would be. And
so like I can estimate what I think from
anecdotes, but it would be nice to have
more information if there's any way to
get that. Um
and then um I am a little concerned.
Well, there's definitely more than two
of these in Salt Lake City.
um how can we make sure that people are
going through the license
program um or encouraging them to like
will this be
um I know we can't
use because of the state law preeemption
um and I haven't looked at the statute
for a while. I wonder like does the
wording in the statute preclude the city
from
um using a website to contact owners to
tell them about the new licensing
requirement? Would that be like allowed
or would that run a foul of the the
preeemption ordinance? Because if we can
do that and just email those
individuals,
even if you know, not every single one
of them responds, like I would imagine a
significant number of them would want to
come into compliance if they're in a
legal they're in an area that's allowed
and all that.
So, Council Member Wharton, we could
look at the language to see if there is
any kind of prohibition. Uh, but I think
what you're speaking to also speaks to
sort of an educational outreach uh, type
of campaign to ensure that perhaps
there's incentives for people to get
licensed and be on the right side of the
ordinance. Certainly, we can have those
discussions internally about the best
ways to achieve that.
>> Great. Thank you.
» Great. Thank you.
I just wanted to note because there are
a number of questions that relate to
enforcement that I think up until this
point or up until June of this year,
most of the enforcement and interaction
resided within can and if the council
the council has mentioned in the past
that there were new enforcement officers
added to the city um for this issue for
short-term rental issues, those were in
the department of community and
neighborhoods. This ordinance now is a
licensing requirement that has a
different realm of enforcement that
would be within finance and business
licensing. So probably as the
conversation proceeds, it would also
help to just map out where different
things would be how they would be
enforced and by which department. Um,
and so I just wanted to note that for
the record and also clarity of who might
follow up on some of the issues council
members are raising.
Thank you for that. Um I will just uh
name that I what I think many of us feel
is that we're balancing multiple
interests here. We're balancing a real
housing shortage and we're balancing a
market and financial reality that
short-term rentals exist. They are here.
People use them along with the challenge
of how do we know which ones are there
and are they registering as short-term
rentals and enforcement. Um, one part of
the ordinance that I am in favor of is a
requirement that there is somebody local
uh to Salt Lake County who can
immediately respond to requests. Um, I
feel like that's a really important part
of the ordinance to ensure both health
and safety, but also to respond to
nuisance complaints. Um, I know we've
heard from a number of people on both
sides of this issue, both those who are
owners and operators of short-term
rentals, but I've also heard from
neighbors who said, "I'm glad that the
city is trying to move in this direction
because it has a real impact on
neighborhoods um where these are
operating either legally or illegally um
outside of the zone. So I appreciate
that we are moving towards hopefully
finding uh a ground in which we can
satisfy as many of these interests and
concerns as possible.
>> So in terms of next steps um what is the
» So in terms of next steps um what is the
council's preference? We could take the
feedback that we've heard and work with
the administration on some potential
adjustments to the ordinance and then
schedule it for another briefing
probably in Augustish.
Is that does that work or what?
>> Council member Wharton.
» Council member Wharton.
>> I mean I don't I don't
» I mean I don't I don't
feel I guess does it can we move forward
with these changes today or with these
changes not today but like
um with these updates or would we put
these on hold because these are just to
the fee schedule right?
>> No the
» No the
I'll I'll start and then or go ahead
Mark. No, you're uh uh beginning uh July
1, uh chapter 5.13 uh was published, so
it is uh uh part of the uh city code.
>> It is in effect,
» It is in effect,
>> right? Okay. The but
» right? Okay. The but
but we're revisiting it today and we're
talking about additional changes.
So, I'm wondering would the things that
we're talking about today be on hold
until additional changes come or can we
move forward with them?
>> The council would need to tell us what
» The council would need to tell us what
how you would like to proceed. I would
like to move forward with these changes.
I don't necessarily want to wait on
these because we're we're trying to
correct something that was inadvertently
left out. I want to get that in as soon
as possible
>> and if there are future changes.
» and if there are future changes.
>> Yeah.
» Yeah.
>> There are some things for example like
» There are some things for example like
the twoight minimum was included in what
went into effect July 1st. So where
there's some interest on the council
>> perhaps to change that.
» perhaps to change that.
>> Right. Would if you could just give us
» Right. Would if you could just give us
clarity on do you so do you want the
twoight minimum to go forward until a
ordinance amendment is brought back.
>> Yes.
» Yes.
>> So you want what was put into effect
» So you want what was put into effect
July 1st to be fully in effect until
changes. Thank you. Wholesale.
>> Okay. Thank you.
» Okay. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
» Thank you.
>> Others.
» Others.
>> I think it would help to have a straw
» I think it would help to have a straw
poll from the council if that would be
okay. just so that we're really clear on
whether everyone is in agreement with
that or whether we want to pick apart
the different elements.
>> Would you say it for me again? Because
» Would you say it for me again? Because
when I said it, Dan Dugan was shaking
his head, but when you [laughter] said
it,
>> I was okay with it. So,
» I was okay with it. So,
>> well,
» well,
>> I was I was shaking my head because this
» I was I was shaking my head because this
is went into effect on July 1st. So,
there's no change. We can't change
anything right now because it just went
into effect. So, we have to come back
with a revised ordinance and go through
that process on a revised ordinance. And
I and I I'm okay with putting this in
effect, but I also don't want to kick
our discussion down too far because this
is uh
well, it's going to take effect for a
little while. Well, there's only
>> two locations that actually have
» two locations that actually have
licenses, so it's going to affect two
businesses legally at this point. So, I
I'm okay with going in effect now, but
let's look at our changes that the
questions we have. We have a bunch of
questions. Let's get those answers. So,
then we can say, "Hey, we'll keep what
we have or we want to modify it with a
new ordinance."
>> I do think we would need to hear from
» I do think we would need to hear from
the administration if that's possible.
Like, so a license would be issued to
anyone coming in to get it now under
certain regulations. And then when you
pass an ordinance amendment, would those
licenses automatically have new
regulations attached to them? Do you
know what I mean? Like I think we just
need some clarity on if that's possible.
Well, and this is the reason why I would
like to go forward the way that I had
proposed is that I think if we decide to
eliminate like a twoight minimum,
you know, it doesn't matter whether
they're already licensed or not or we
decide to eliminate a 200 night cap, it
doesn't matter whether they're licensed
or not. And I don't want to send the
mixed message to
um owners of these units that like oh
the council passed something and then
they thought about making more changes.
So I don't know do I wait now or do I do
like I want people to come and start
getting licenses now while the while
it's in the news while it's in the
conversation and if we subsequently make
changes then um based on what I've heard
today
those changes would would just remove
some of the existing regulations, not
add new ones.
» Can I council member Warton, can I ask
you though,
maybe it's just
such a high level symbolic concern. Do
you think I I hear you and I share your
eagerness for people to register and to
get their business licenses, but we've
clearly pointed out here that there's
very very flawed mechanisms for
enforcement, if any at all, and the
ordinance needs to work. Do you think it
damages our credibility if we've already
admitted that we can't enforce on this
ordinance to be recruiting people? Like
I I think we should tighten up some of
these holes and then do a comprehensive
sweep trying to get people to register,
but that also might just be like some
like hypothetical highle, you know,
preference for when we might get the
most. I don't know. I'm open to your
feedback on it. I mean, to me, it it
may have been ideal to do that at one
point, but now, you know, I've already
had multiple people, you know, I
mentioned constituent meetings. I've
already had um constituents reach out
with questions. I've already talked to
community councils about it. Like, the
cat's out of the bag. Um, and even
though I know on a lot of these we don't
have an
um maybe like an investigation
mechanism, but I would
disagree that we don't have an
enforcement mechanism because if
somebody does make a report um to the
city and we do find that that they're,
you know, violating some of these terms,
then they could we could not renew. Um,
you know, we might I I said the last
time we talked about this, I wish we had
a lot more regulatory authority. I
thought we I wish we had a lot more
local control over this. Um, I
understand it's not
a national monument, but I do think we
should be able to have some control over
these things in the housing crisis. And
so, um,
so I would like to be able to use the
tools that we have and and be able to
move forward when there are repeated
nuisances or when there are reports that
the rules are being violated.
I I think it actually could be worse if
we kind of do this like multi-phase roll
out.
So,
but Council Member Wharton, I mean, you
were asking how many housing units were
would be displaced by short-term
rentals. I mean, do you think there's a
a need for a little bit more data?
Could we continue to refine this as we
um even though it's enforceable now?
Right.
>> Right. But I think we can't um
» Right. But I think we can't um
I think it's the the I mean, correct me
if I'm wrong, Mark, but
the either you're in the zone now where
you can do it or you're not. And whether
or not people are coming forward and
getting their license when they should
or shouldn't, like that's not going to
change. Um because if we were to to
limit the zones where we allow them now,
like that's already a problem, right?
Because they would say this is something
I've been allowed to do. You're you're
interfering with my business. You're you
know, so I think that that
again to to reuse the cats out of the
bag analogy, like they're they're
already permitted where they are and
those businesses that are operating are
already operating um whether they have
the paper or not. And so I think that if
we were to to limit the number or limit
the zones like we're not going to save
oursel any headache because
they're going to have the same you know
substantively their complaints are the
same which is that I was allowed to do
this and now I'm not.
» So I'm hearing we have a lot of things
before us and possibly some some mixed
feelings um among us on the on the
council. Uh, Lua, I would be curious if
you would be willing to restate that
straw poll. Um, just so we can uh get a
gauge of where we we are.
>> Um,
» Um,
of course I will try. Um, thank you. So,
what the council approved that was
published on July 1st would be in
effect.
And if the council wanted to consider
some amendments that we would return to
you with those amendments for a future
briefing and an a new ordinance that you
could adopt to make changes,
but until that time, what was approved
July or and published July 1 would be in
effect.
>> Yes.
» Yes.
Is that your straw pole?
>> Mhm.
» Mhm.
>> That's a straw poll. All right. Show
» That's a straw poll. All right. Show
your feelings. [laughter]
>> Thank you.
» Thank you.
>> Chris's straw poll.
» Chris's straw poll.
>> Council member Young Petro.
» Council member Young Petro.
>> I'm a thumbs up.
» I'm a thumbs up.
>> I'm okay with that. Yes.
» I'm okay with that. Yes.
>> Okay.
» Okay.
>> Yeah.
» Yeah.
>> Hopefully that provides a little bit of
» Hopefully that provides a little bit of
direction um for the future of this.
>> I think so. I look
» I think so. I look
>> Okay.
» Okay.
>> Thank you, Council Me.
» Thank you, Council Me.
>> Thank you, staff, and thank you, council
» Thank you, staff, and thank you, council
members. and council staff for helping
us move through that that muddled
process.
Um, we are now moving on to our next
item, which is uh item five, uh,
ordinance, a six-year capital asset
plan. Uh, we'll be joined at the table
by Kate, council policy analyst. Um, and
Mike Atkinson, Mike Atkinson, capital
asset planning manager.
Thanks. We're actually going to have
Mary, Beth, and and Rachel here with us,
and Mike is here for questions. So, we
have a whole team for this. Um, the
capital asset plan or CAP plan as you
will be hearing it referred to provides
details and prioritiz prioritization
guidance for the general plan capital
asset needs for fiscal years 2027
through 2032.
Finance, the mayor's office and city
departments have been working
extensively to create this proposed $
1.5 billion six-year capital asset plan.
The plan provides overall picture of the
future general fund spending on
extensive maintenance, expansion, and
new improvements. Improvements outlined
in the CAP plan include areas such as
streets, bridges, buildings, parks,
traffic lights, sidewalks, and other
public areas. Um, the CAT plan is
located in the CIP book or the capital
improvement book, which you received
along with the mayor's recommended
budget book and is available online as
well. If adopted, the CAT plan will be
updated annually um and it is proposed
to be updated at the same time as the
CIP um project allocations um on August
25th. Couple policy considerations for
you to consider. potentially discussing
metrics to measure the CAT plan success
as it's implemented and also this
council may discuss if the proposed
projects equitably serve the city and if
any neighborhood areas need attention.
With that, I'll turn it over to Mary
Beth.
>> Thank you, council. Can you please um
» Thank you, council. Can you please um
bring up the capital asset plan
PowerPoint?
Thank you. Um, next slide, please.
» Good afternoon, council. I'm excited to
share the capital asset plan with you.
This plan has taken three years to
complete, and I'm incredibly proud of
what the city has accomplished. I want
to begin by thanking staff across the
entire organization for their
contribution in bringing this plan
forward today. The development and
project management of this plan truly
moved through all four stages of team
formation described by Bruce Tucker.
So you can look it up. And I know this
sounds a little formal and not like me,
but I kind of wanted to do this um
because I I am truly proud of this. With
the outstanding support of IMS's project
manager Liz Buer, we built a strong team
and produced a comprehensive plan that
we are pleased to present to you. We are
presenting a six-year general fund
capital asset roadmap built around two
core priorities. Protecting and renewing
our existing capital assets and making
targeted investments to support growth
and service needs. This plan establishes
a matrix that guides prioritization and
funding alignment for general fund
capital asset. It also provides a
framework that will help the general
fund prioritize the CIP projects that
come forward for review. Next slide,
please.
So, I kind of wanted to give you the
current landscape of um the CIP. So,
$165 million is in the CIP fund as of
December 2025. That includes funding
sources from the general fund, funding
our future, transportation fund, class
C, impact B, bond fund proceeds, and 29
million of encumbered funds. This
represents 437 appropriation and budget
line items and supports more than 600
general fund projects. Next slide,
please.
When developing the new capital asset
plan, we had to consider how it would
inform the general fund and define the
primary roles of the plan. That process
led us to create the flowchart shown
here.
So when we were going through this, we
wanted to make sure that we encompassed
the whole thing and that the capital
asset plan fed into the CIP plan, but we
also needed to ensure that all master
plans fed into the capital asset plan so
we didn't leave that out. So that's what
this is showing you here is the master
plans um uh six-year division and the
capital maintenance program go into the
capital asset plan and CRA and public
utilities create their input into this
which goes to the cap committee. Um the
CAP committee is comprised of every
department including public utilities
and CRA because we wanted it holistic
and making sure that we were not um
stepping on anyone's toes and also
making sure that we were not bringing
forth a project to you in CIP that
public utilities didn't have on their
plan for 10 years. And we've seen it and
I've seen it several times. So, we
wanted to make sure it's
all-encompassing and that the entire
capital asset committee approved um
these projects in the CIP as we move
them forward. And then those capital the
cap committee votes, they put it to the
CDCIP board, the CDCIP board ranks it
and then it comes to the mayor's office
and then to you.
Any questions on that process? Great.
The exe executive summ provides a highle
overview of the types of projects
including included in the plan
indicating whether each project is a
replacement, an improvement, or a new
asset. Across the entire six-year
period, the total costs is $1.5 billion.
The plan will be updated annually to
ensure it continues to meet the needs of
the general fund.
And I'll just give you a little bit of
time to look this over. This is also in
the CIP book. It's at the back of the
book. Um, like I said, we're very proud
of this plan. Any questions on this
slide?
>> Council members?
» Council members?
>> Council member Young, anything coming up
» Council member Young, anything coming up
for you so far?
>> No, I will um I guess reflect it is very
» No, I will um I guess reflect it is very
well done. Um, and probably um to the
point that it deserves a little more
review before commenting on any
specifics. So, thank you.
Next slide. Go ahead.
>> I like that slide too. We can thank we
» I like that slide too. We can thank we
can thank um the um graphic design team
and helping us with that slide.
So this is just a different view. It's
showing it from fiscal year 2027 to
fiscal year 2020 or 2032 and the
six-year totals by buildings, parks, and
transportation. And you noticed we put
them in different buckets than say
impact fees, right? Impact fees is fire,
police, transportation, and parks.
Fire and police mainly are buildings.
Fire has some um equipment that they're
allowed to do for impact fees. But for
the most part, capital assets for the
general fund are buildings, parks, and
transportation or streets.
Any question on that slide?
Next slide, please.
So, we want to talk a little bit about
the revenues. Um, we've discussed this
with you before, but kind of the
revenues that contribute to the um
capital asset plan and to CIP. So, those
funding sources are class C, the general
fund, impact fees, and the
transportation fund. The transportation
fund consists of both the fourth of the
fourth and the quarter of the quarter.
These projections are based on the 2%
inflationary factor. Um the general fund
portion also includes the funding our
future because technically it is general
fund monies. This does not include bonds
and does not include grants in these
projections.
As you can see the amount is not $1.5
billion.
Next slide please.
So this shows the variance in the
capital assets um by existing assets,
improvements in new assets and the
revenues that we receive and then the
projected shortfall
over the six-year period of time.
Very um
very telling and we've never had this
data before, but this is very telling
data. So
that's all I have for you.
Council, do you have any questions of
us?
>> Council members, uh, anybody online, any
» Council members, uh, anybody online, any
questions?
» None here. Thank you.
>> Council members in the room, questions,
» Council members in the room, questions,
comments, 1.5 billion hanging out in
your back pocket somewhere.
Well done.
Now I have a lot of more homework, but
well done.
>> Yeah, I have to say that this, you know,
» Yeah, I have to say that this, you know,
like I said, this wasn't just the
finance department. This was, you know,
I've been with the city for quite a
while and this was the best project that
I have seen come together citywide with
all of the departments. It was amazing.
It was amazing and I'm very proud of it.
Um, I think you should be proud of it.
Um, we've been trying to do a capital
asset plan since before I was the CFO.
Um, so like I said, I think the city in
general should be completely proud of
this. So, thank you.
» Thank you so much to um everyone who was
involved in putting forward this plan.
And it is a sobering plan uh as we see
the path ahead of us, but I'm grateful
that um we have such a comprehensive
path forward. Maybe not a path forward
to fully funding um the plan and
addressing all of the needs, whether
they're new or existing um or
maintenance, but I appreciate that now
we have a scope of the challenge before
us and can begin to move accordingly.
All right, without any other questions
or comments, I think uh that concludes
this portion of the agenda. Thank you.
And thank you to everybody who worked on
this plan.
Okay, I'm going to keep marching us
forward um to uh item six, which is
closely connected, of course, to capital
asset plan. Um that's a c a resolution
regarding the capital improvement plan.
Kate is our frequent flyer uh at the
table and will provide a brief
introduction. Um uh is Rachel here? Yes.
Yep. And Rachel will stay also at the
table. Um, CIP program manager. Kate,
over to you.
>> Great. Thank you. So, annually the
» Great. Thank you. So, annually the
council appropriates overall funding as
part of the annual budget um to the CIP
or capital improvement program. And then
before September 1st, you make specific
proper project allocations. This is the
first briefing of several to get you to
where you feel comfortable with your
project allocations. Um CIP is an open
and competitive process where residents,
local organizations and city departments
submit project applications and these
applications are reviewed first by a
residential advisory committee and then
by the mayor. Um those recommendations
have been provided to you. You get to
review them, make your own
recommendations and move forward with
your decisions. Uh today we will have a
presentation from finance regarding the
CIP process. Next, any questions you may
have, key projects you'd like to discuss
and possibly if we want to, but we
really don't need to. Um start looking
at the the funding log. And with that,
I'll turn it over to Rachel.
>> Thank you. Um, good evening and
» Thank you. Um, good evening and
[clears throat] thank you for the
opportunity to present the fiscal year
2026 2027 capital improvement projects
budget. Um, I'm Rachel Molinari. I'm the
capital improvement program manager. Um,
today I'm going to provide a brief
overview of the CIP program. The um
highlight several accomplishments and
process improvements from the past year
and walk through the FY27 applications,
the available funding, and the mayor's
recommended projects.
Next slide.
The capital asset planning team is part
of the finance department and consists
of five full-time staff members. Our
team manages the city's capital asset
plan and the annual uh capital
improvement program from beginning to
end. This includes soliciting um and
reviewing applications, coordinating
with departments, supporting the
evaluation process
um
[snorts]
sorry um
preparing funding recommendations and
assisting the council through the final
um budget allocation. We also oversee
the capital budgeting, forecasting,
reporting, project tracking, and
financial compliance within workday.
In addition, our team manages the city's
impact fee program and provides staff
support for the capital asset planning
committee and the community development
and capital improvement program, CDCIP
board. Our overall goal is to provide
reliable financial analysis and a
coordinated transport uh transparent
process that helps align the city's
capital investments with its longtime
long-term priorities.
Next term. Next slide.
We have identified several um meaningful
opportunities to uh opportunities to
improve efficiency during this year's
process. Um, the CDC IP board was the
first city board or commission to use AI
to assist with drafting meeting minutes.
Um, so we still review and finalize the
minutes, but um, these initial drafts
have saved a tremendous amount of time
for staff for each board meeting.
Um the capital asset planning committee
also completed its project
presentations, scoring and deliberations
more quickly than it has in the previous
uh previous two years. Um and that's
because the committee members now have a
deeper understanding of how the process
works and the um the procedures have
become more standardized. Um and this is
um as the as the process becomes more
established, we just im uh expect more
efficiencies in the future years.
Next slide.
Um as Mary Beth highlighted, one of our
team's most significant accomplishments
um was leading the development of the
city's first capital asset plan. Um but
we we also updated uh title 57 chapter
10 which establishes the city's capital
asset management policy and governs the
annual CIP process and the role of the
capital asset planning committee. Um the
CAP committee charter was updated to
streamline the um the membership the
meetings and the procedures.
And we also researched potential updates
to the city's CIP guiding policies in
resolution 29. Um and the CAP committee
has endorsed several proposed changes
which are now moving through um
additional review.
The um
potential updates to resolution 29
include um updates to the city's cost
overrun policy and additional um project
priorit prioritization criteria related
to water and energy conservation and
other city objectives.
Next slide.
Um, Mary Beth already covered this
slide, so um, unless there's more
questions on it, we can skip it.
Um, the capital asset planning committee
provides a cross departmental uh,
guidance for the city's capital asset
plan and CIP.
The committee reviews internal um, city
capital project requests before they
move on to the CDC IP board.
Um
and they uh they score and rank those
requests using the established
evaluation criteria and advise on
broader capital planning, management and
policy matters. Uh because this
committee
includes representatives from
departments throughout the city. It
provides a coordinated citywide
perspective rather than evaluating
projects only within one individual
department priority. Um and so this
structure supports the transparency,
collaboration and datadriven
recommendations
um to the board, to the mayor and to the
council. Next slide.
This slide shows the departments and
divisions represented on the committee.
Um, I won't read everyone off, but um,
there are voting and non- voting
representatives from finance, the
mayor's office, can public services,
public lands, fire, IMS, public
utilities, economic development,
sustainability, the CRA, police, and the
attorney's office. Um, and again, this
this broad representation is important
because capital projects often um affect
several departments.
And this this structure allows the city
to consider financial, operational,
legal, and infrastructure
um and community impacts together while
evaluating projects.
Next slide.
Um this map is so now we're we're
getting into FY27 specific information.
Um this slide shows the geographic
distribution of all of the applications
we received this year. It provides a
useful um visual representation where
capital investments have been requested
throughout the city. And it's kind of
hard to see on there, but there is a
concentration of dots along the highways
um there that that represents citywide
projects um as opposed to a location
with just one specific um site.
And the link is publicly available on
the slide there.
Next slide.
For FY27, the city received a total of
74 applications. Uh 32 of those were
internal city applications and 42 were
submitted by constituents.
Um together those applications requested
approximately $58 million in funding
and the mayor's recommended budget
includes 25 projects totaling
approximately 34.8 million.
Five of the recommended projects are
constituent applications totaling
approximately 2.3 million in recommended
funding. Next slide.
Uh this chart breaks down the request by
department and division. Um public lands
and transportation represent the largest
shares of uh requested funding followed
by engineering facilities, streets and
fire.
Next slide.
The constituent applications um there
was a total request for 19.8 8 million
in funding and transportation related
projects represent slightly more than
half of that that funding requested and
public lands and engineering projects um
represent approximately a quarter of
that total amount. Next slide.
>> Council member N.
» Council member N.
>> I just had a very quick question. So the
» I just had a very quick question. So the
previous slide,
how does that compare to previous years?
Um it's it's in line. There's always
around
I I would say between 30 and 60
constituent applications. Um projects
have gotten more um expensive. So I
would have to research more on that
dollar amount, but it's in line with
what we see in
>> I just meant proportion of
» I just meant proportion of
transportation to public lands and
things. Okay.
>> Yeah, I think it I think it's on track.
» Yeah, I think it I think it's on track.
There's always um traffic coming related
requests that we see and that that is
the majority of requests that come in.
Um next slide.
Uh here we have the internal um request
for 38.2 million. Um public lands
represents the largest portion of that
followed by transportation facilities,
streets, engineering and fire.
Um, sorry, just to interrupt. It looks
like Council Member Young has a question
online. Council member Young,
>> thank you. Sorry to disrupt. Going back
» thank you. Sorry to disrupt. Going back
to the map that you showed, is the map
comprehensive of all the proposals or is
it just those that are recommended?
>> It's all the applications received.
» It's all the applications received.
>> Okay.
» Okay.
I'll I'll follow up. I I think I have a
I have a couple of constituent
applications that I'm not seeing and
maybe I'm just looking in the wrong
spot.
>> Okay, sure.
» Okay, sure.
>> Okay.
» Okay.
>> Yeah, happy to answer any questions on
» Yeah, happy to answer any questions on
the map.
>> Okay.
» Okay. Um
we can go to the next slide.
Um the CIP budget um includes
approximately 12.8 8 million um in
ongoing expenses. Approximately 10.1
supports existing bonds. Uh 2.5 million
supports ongoing needs for leases,
maintenance of facilities, urban trails,
vacant and lease city uh property
maintenance. And included on the bottom
there uh are the yearly breakout of the
special properties. Um all the details
for the information in this chart are on
in the CIP book uh pages 19 to 24
and next slide.
Um so there is 38 34.8 million in
available funding this year. This slide
shows the um breakdown by funding source
uh leaving no remaining balance.
Next slide.
And um here we showed the mayor's
recommended um allocation by department
and applicant type. So um 93% of the
recommended funding supports the
internal city projects uh while seven
approximately 7% supports the
constituent projects and historically
the constituent projects have received
about 10% of total CIP funding in the
past. So this is kind of um generally
consistent with what with what um we've
seen um the largest recommend uh
recommended allocation um are associated
with public lands and engineering
followed by transportation and public
services related projects.
Next slide.
Um this slide and the next slide show
the uh projects recommended by the mayor
in order of the CDC IP board's ranking.
Um this first slide is the first 13
projects.
And then if we go into the next slide,
it's the remaining ones. Um the light
green is are the constituent projects.
Um so like I mentioned before, there are
five of them. Three of the five
recommended projects focus on pedestrian
and traffic safety near schools. Um and
then the the final two projects on the
list, the 6 million for Glendale Park
and the 50,000 for bike racks were added
um through the mayor's recommended
budget. They were not applications um
ranked by the advisory board.
Uh next slide.
[snorts]
And then lastly, I do want to point out
um our CDC IP board included um two
contingencies with their recommendations
to the mayor. Um the first being if
additional funding was available, they
wanted that funding to be allocated to
projects in accordance with their ranked
list. And if less funding um were the
case, they wanted that um to be reduced
proportionately across all recommended
projects.
Um they also opted to recommend full
funding for fewer projects as opposed to
using the approach of what we call
spreading the peanut butter. Um and
partially funding more projects with the
limited funds available um and
they also focus their constituent
project recommendations
um on safety projects near schools.
Um,
that's all that I have uh in my
presentation. Happy to answer any
questions that you guys have.
Council members, any questions?
Thank you for this um thorough review. I
would like to and thank you to staff for
printing off this um funding log for us.
I'd like to um uh see if there's
anything burning regarding this funding
log that people would like to name um
now, but also recognizing that we don't
have a couple of our members here. So um
would prefer that we avoid in-depth
discussions of any one project at this
point in time. How do folks feel about
that?
» I support.
>> Okay. Okay. And we do have um a couple
» Okay. Okay. And we do have um a couple
more uh hearing or conversations
scheduled for for these CIP projects.
>> But any questions of uh staff right now
» But any questions of uh staff right now
before we Yeah.
>> Yeah. No question. I just really
» Yeah. No question. I just really
appreciate the the over over uh view of
the whole CIP program and stuff in in
conjunction with the CAP plan. uh they
it was really nice to see that uh and
realize that your question about the
constituents that has always been kind
of a a pressing question how how should
we divide up the funding for
constituents or not and we've we've gone
through that iteration a number of times
but I and I'm always kind of want to
relook at that do we we set aside money
for constituents only projects and how
do we grade them compared to the mayor's
only because a lot of the transportation
and engineering and public lands are
projects that would constituents would
also ask for, but these are like extras.
So, it it's a great discussion, but it's
I'm I'm appreciate the the history on
some of the slides and also just the uh
uh the breakdown of who gets what. So,
thank you very much again. Appreciate
it.
Thank you so much. Okay, Kate gets to
leave the table now. just [laughter]
um all right, so we're a little ahead of
schedule. Um hopefully that's not an
issue. Um next up is a board
appointment. Um item number seven. Uh
this is for uh board appointment
interviews for the community development
um and capital improvement programs
advisory board. So this is the advisory
board that weighs in on exactly the CIP
um uh uh projects and proposals that we
heard about earlier. I'm wondering even
though we are early do we have some
folks online uh that we can begin to
interview
and we have one person in someone in
person
>> two I great overachievers I love this.
» two I great overachievers I love this.
So, I'm going to ask each of you to um I
don't uh I don't know who's in the room,
but we'll start over here. Uh your name.
Uh go ahead and step forward and sh you
have about a minute to
>> bring all three together.
» bring all three together.
>> Yeah, let's bring all three up together.
» Yeah, let's bring all three up together.
Actually, that's a great suggestion.
Yep. Take a seat.
And um the way this will work is I would
love to just
>> Are you all here for the uh capital uh
» Are you all here for the uh capital uh
improvement uh advisory programs board?
>> Yes. Oh, great. Okay, we're all in the
» Yes. Oh, great. Okay, we're all in the
right place. Excellent. Um would love
for each of you to just take a minute um
uh share your name and share, you know,
why are you interested in serving on
this board. We'll start with gentleman
right here.
>> Thank you. So, my name is Rob
and I got interested in this. We do
commercial landscape work,
but uh we do commercial landscaping. So,
>> make sure your microphone is on. Just
» make sure your microphone is on. Just
push the green the button.
» Oh, there we go. Oh, I have a big
booming voice. Sorry. Anyway, my name is
Robert Eckles. I live in Sugar House. I
work for a commercial landscape and snow
removal company. And over the last gosh,
I've been there for 16 years. I've
gotten a chance to work with a lot of
cities around the the valley with
landscape projects. and it's kind of
been on the back of my mind. Just
interested in in how things run and what
gets approved, what doesn't, what you're
allowed to do, what you're not.
Recently, I was involved in a couple of
a little higher profile ones. One in
Holiday with the city of Holiday for the
Holiday Hills development with Woodbury
and Milrock and then also one here in
Salt Lake City uh that caused a lot of
of problems at Trolley Square. It just
there was a lot of emotion about that.
But I got really involved with Tony with
the city with trees urban forestry and
had a chance to just kind of see how
some of the process works on the
backside and it was really interesting
and I'm interested because I'm vested in
Salt Lake. Um my family's vested here
and I just want to I want to be a part
of the decision-m process. I feel like I
bring a lot of skill to this with just I
mean I know you guys don't do just
landscape but there are things that are
improvements that I'd like to be a part
of decision- making for budget reasons.
So yeah, sorry I took more than a
minute.
>> No, that's perfect. Thank you so much,
» No, that's perfect. Thank you so much,
Mr. Eckles.
» My name's Brooke Bin. I am an engineer
living in Rose Park. And
if not for Salt Lake City, I wouldn't
have realized I was queer. And
it feels like home to me, and I want it
to be home for everyone.
Thank you, Brooke.
>> I'm Mitchell Roundy. I'm an attorney in
» I'm Mitchell Roundy. I'm an attorney in
uh Central City. Um I grew up in the
Salt Lake Valley, lived in Salt Lake
City proper for a couple of years now
and I just love the city and I just very
interested in giving back to my
community and hearing uh what sort of
ideas uh other me other members of the
community have for community
improvement.
Thank you, Mitchell. I uh believe we
have somebody who's also joining us
online. Um Mai, uh would love for you to
just take a minute uh introduce yourself
um and share why you might be interested
in serving on this board and then uh
council member Young, I'll I'll be sure
to uh bring your voice into the
conversation as well. Mai.
>> Okay. Uh good evening, council members.
» Okay. Uh good evening, council members.
My name is May Helms. I've lived in the
avenues with my husband and two kids for
the past 11 years. Um I'm recently I've
really been excited about, you know, um
being more involved locally. This was um
after I had the opportunity to travel to
Washington DC and advocate um for
medical research and to talk with our
representatives on how NIH dollars
directly help our communities back home.
I thought that this was incredibly
rewarding and this experience is what
sparked the desire in me to get more
involved with this committee and more
local projects. Thank you.
>> Thank you so much. And uh Council Member
» Thank you so much. And uh Council Member
Young.
>> Yeah, I just wanted to say thank you to
» Yeah, I just wanted to say thank you to
all of our individuals um for being
willing to give your time and your
expertise to Salt Lake City to be able
to help inform what our next steps are.
I will say is a a personal request. Um
it was mentioned earlier by council
member Dugan, but I think that one of
the biggest challenges we have right now
is that we have a really robust list of
city projects and city needs and we also
have a really great engagement from our
community who were also identifying
opportunities for improvement. And so we
and me personally appreciate your lens
to how we balance those two moving
forward um in terms of both recognizing
city priorities while also making sure
we we continue to honor the voice of our
constituents. So thank you again.
Appreciate it and the opportunity to um
you know share share a minor request.
>> Thank you Council Member Young. Any um
» Thank you Council Member Young. Any um
other comments,
questions?
>> Um so what do you talk to me about um
» Um so what do you talk to me about um
you know being in the committee and
advisory role? You guys are putting a
lot of time into and consideration into
these um applications that come through.
But ultimately, you know, it's the mayor
and the council who or the mayor's going
to make a final recommendation and
council's going to make the final
decision. Um, how do you,
um, like what goes into your thought
process? How do you, um,
you know, decide, approach this position
knowing that, you know, you're making an
a recommendation instead of the final
decision?
>> Is that down the line to each Yeah.
» Is that down the line to each Yeah.
applicant? Okay,
>> hit the button.
» hit the button.
Um,
I think that ultimately I I was I'm
listening to your question as you were
asking it. I was thinking when I make a
decision for me or for a client on
behalf of a client or in conjunction
with a client, you know, you always
start with this and then there are
restrictions, parameters, things that
bring it to budget and it starts to
scale down or you have to restrict
because of easements or whatever it is,
right? you have to readjust and reassess
and we always call it just being
flexible and open trying to just
evaluate what the base needs are and
then what else you can get what are the
objectives that's what we do um or
that's what I do through work with
clients
um yeah just looking at at the ultimate
the endgame and how to get there what
restrictions and and things we have to
to be flexible on that's my answer Okay.
As a systems engineer, I
spend all day every day looking at how
component parts build larger systems
that may have effects we want and may
have effects we don't. And so I bring my
methodology of systems anal analysis
into determining what my recommendations
would be, especially considering what I
saw of the tight capital investment
program budget that seems to be
projected over the next couple of years
in making targeted investments to shift
communities
cultures. Not necessarily like faiths,
but maybe how often you see neighbors
and say hi, or
how often you feel you can walk to the
grocery store rather than drive. Those
sorts of shifts that will eventually
lead to greater community participation
from the entire city.
Uh ultimately I think the way I would
approach uh the role is it's an advisory
board at at its core. Uh I feel like the
job I in intend to do and hope to do is
to provide you all in the mayor's office
with the best information possible and
uh what I and the rest of the advisory
board believe to be the best projects to
fund.
And then I think we've got someone
online too.
>> Oh. Oh, great.
» Oh. Oh, great.
>> Okay. Uh hello. Uh in my work as a
» Okay. Uh hello. Uh in my work as a
researcher at the university, I submit
and review technical proposals um to
federal agencies and foundations. I also
make recommendations for funding while
hoping that my own proposals get funded.
Um I also serve on the university's
compliance committee to make sure
federal guidelines are followed. And
when there is ambiguity or disagreement,
you know, we we work and strive to
clarify these issues to move forward
while while giving consideration to
practical realities of getting the work
done. I see this board as a good place
to apply my practical and analytical
skills. Um the responsibilities that I
understand are that are associated with
this role align well with my interests.
I like becoming a domain expert of sorts
through reading, research, and talking
with others. I enjoy um thoughtful
discourse and being part of a team
representing a unified front after after
the discussion is done and I would like
to work to make sure that
recommendations are balanced, evident
evidence-based and well reasoned.
Thank you.
So, just as a followup, is there
anything any of you would like us to
know because we don't always get a
chance to talk with you about um and and
since we're kind of on different ends of
the the process to different book ends,
is there anything you want us to know as
council members when we consider your
your recommendations?
» Okay.
>> Oh, c can I speak? I'm I just wanted to
» Oh, c can I speak? I'm I just wanted to
apologize for not being able to be in
person today, but once this meeting is
scheduled on my calendar, I am committed
to, you know, preparing ahead of time
for the meetings and and to um make
attending in person a priority. So, I'm
very sorry I can't be there tonight, but
I will in the future if selected.
>> That's okay. We're we're glad that you
» That's okay. We're we're glad that you
can join us virtually.
>> That's right.
» That's right.
>> All right. Um, I just want to say thank
» All right. Um, I just want to say thank
you to each of you for stepping forward
to be of service to Salt Lake City in
sharing your insight, your expertise,
and your good judgment as we weigh these
projects that affect the future of our
city. Yeah, Brooke,
I
>> I just wanted I had an answer for
» I just wanted I had an answer for
Chris's question, but please do. Yes,
please. Oh. Um,
Cornell Wetlands is really special to my
family. So, thanks.
>> What? Sorry. What is
» What? Sorry. What is
>> Oh,
I'll just add I'm uh just really excited
for the opportunity to serve the city.
>> Thank you.
» Thank you.
>> Thank you.
» Thank you.
Um, so I the way that it works is that
you will be placed on the consent
consent agenda for tonight's formal
session. Um, as uh my council member
here likes to say, you do not need to be
present to win. Um, uh, but if you would
like to stay for that formal meeting at
7:00, you are welcome to stay. But um,
on behalf of all of us, um, thank you
for stepping forward to uh, serve Salt
Lake City in this in this volunteer
fashion. and it makes a difference.
Thank you.
>> Thank you.
» Um we may have some other CDIP uh
programs advisory board members join us
in just a little bit. I know we're
running ahead of schedule. Um we'll make
some space for them. Uh if if they are
able to join us. Um let's move on to the
next item which is item eight which is
the board appointment interview for the
fire code uh board of appeals. Um I
understand we've got some folks online.
Let's see if we can
» the first three are online. Great. Let's
go ahead and do these um one by one and
uh let's begin with uh Gerald Straybel.
share a m share tell us who you are and
maybe a one minute about um why you're
interested in in your background and how
it aligns with serving on the fire code
uh board of appeals.
>> Hello. Can you see me? All right.
» Yeah.
>> Yes.
» Yes.
>> Okay. Uh I am currently fire marshall
» Okay. Uh I am currently fire marshall
for Sandy City. Uh been in the fire
service for 23 years now. Um, I was past
president of the Fire Marshalss
Association for the state of Utah and
I've served on a few of these boards in
[clears throat] the past. Um, both uh my
deputy who you'll probably talk to in a
minute or so, we actually have done this
with um uh one appeal down in um
American Fork not too many years ago.
And so, yeah, hopefully you never need
us, but we are very qualified in what we
do. Um, I had before I was a
firefighter, I worked in the fire
sprinkler industry, so as far as the
fire code goes regarding fire
sprinklers, I'm very knowledgeable
there. Um, which has been an asset for
for us and actually our surrounding um
um departments. So, unless you have any
questions on any of that, that's pretty
much it.
» What's the weirdest appeal you've ever
presided over?
>> What the weirdest one? Um, so,
» What the weirdest one? Um, so,
interestingly enough, I was questioned
about the placement of a fire hydrant.
Uh, they wanted to argue that they
wanted it further away from their home.
Um because because they didn't want dogs
in their yard.
» I got to tell you, I it's not the fire
hydrant's not going to stop. You know,
moving the fire hydrant is not going to
stop him. So,
>> yeah. Yeah. No, I know. That's That was
» yeah. Yeah. No, I know. That's That was
literally they they wanted to appeal
that hydrant because they didn't want
the dog mess. So, I'm like, "Okay."
>> Yeah. Okay. Thank you. You can't make
» Yeah. Okay. Thank you. You can't make
this stuff up.
[laughter]
>> All right. Thank you um so much uh Mr.
» All right. Thank you um so much uh Mr.
Strebble. Um I believe that we have a
Lincoln Paxman online. Lincoln, if you
wouldn't mind uh just taking a minute uh
telling us a little bit about yourself
and uh your background and why you're
interested in serving on the fire code
uh board of appeals.
>> Yeah, my name is Lincoln Paxman. I've
» Yeah, my name is Lincoln Paxman. I've
been in the fire service for uh over 35
years, serving in many capacities. Um
recently, and I've been serving in the
fire marshall's office for the last
three years, focusing on hazardous
materials code enforcement uh and
dealing with many types of hazardous
materials on our city. Uh I have been on
one appellet board um where we listened
to a appeal by a business um and it was
regarding some hazardous materials. They
called me specifically
um for that hazardous materials. Um I've
also been involved with uh writing Utah
state law in the hazardous materials
area, code enforcement as well as
national law. So I'm actively involved
in the national fire protection agency
and then also um I'm got proposals into
the
um international fire code for future
consideration. Any
fun questions from council member
Wharton?
>> Yeah. What's the most memorable appeal
» Yeah. What's the most memorable appeal
or weird appeal that you've presided
over?
>> Well, I've only been in one. I didn't
» Well, I've only been in one. I didn't
presside. I was just there to uh act as
a expert in some hazardous materials
concerns
>> and um I think we're able to resolve
» and um I think we're able to resolve
those concerns. Um
and there wasn't anything excited about
it. It's really technical and really
boring.
>> Ah, excellent. Okay, we like technical
» Ah, excellent. Okay, we like technical
and boring, especially [laughter] in an
appeals process. Thank you. Um,
>> you bet.
» you bet.
>> Uh, next we'll move on to Donald uh
» Uh, next we'll move on to Donald uh
Buckley, who I believe is online with
us. Donald, take a minute. Uh, tell us a
little bit about yourself uh your
background and why you're interested in
serving on this board of appeals.
I think Donald's muted.
» Maybe not.
>> Donald, are you there?
All right. I get
Okay. So, we're doing a little doseydo.
Um,
>> these two guys,
» these two guys,
>> are there two others online?
» Oh, yes. For the folks who were able to
join us um online, Gerald Lincoln,
>> I am here. This is Don. I'm here. Sorry,
» I am here. This is Don. I'm here. Sorry,
I couldn't get my phone to unmute.
>> Oh, no worries. We're glad to have you,
» Oh, no worries. We're glad to have you,
Donald. Um or or Don, um go ahead and
take a minute um to introduce yourself.
uh share a little bit about your
background and why you're interested in
serving on this board.
>> Yes. I apologize my camera is not
» Yes. I apologize my camera is not
working either. I'm on my phone. Um
I've been in the fire service for just a
little over 35 years. I started as a
volunteer in New Jersey. Um I currently
am the Draper City Fire Marshal and have
been for the last 20 years. Um I too
along with Gerald uh am a former
president of the Fire Marshals
Association. I'm also the chair of the
home fire sprinkler coalition. Um I work
very closely when we're working on
uh codes and everything else and I have
not had the pleasure of serving on an
appeals board.
>> Um however I deal with a lot of
» Um however I deal with a lot of
difficult projects on a regular basis.
One you guys might be aware of is the
point uh that happens to be mine to deal
with um down in Draper. So, I deal with
a lot of complicated projects and uh
yeah, I just want to be able to uh offer
my expertise where I can.
>> I feel like he's answered my question.
» I feel like he's answered my question.
[laughter]
» Any good point. Enough said.
>> Any other questions from uh council
» Any other questions from uh council
members? Okay. And I think we just got
one more person uh online with us. And
is that is Matthew? Are you with us
online?
» Excellent.
>> I'm here.
» I'm here.
>> Hope so. I invite you to just uh take a
» Hope so. I invite you to just uh take a
minute to share a little bit about
yourself, your background, um and why
you're interested in serving on the fire
code board of appeals.
>> Okay. I I've uh got about 16 and a half
» Okay. I I've uh got about 16 and a half
years in the fire service. I did eight
years with the state fire marshall's
office. Um I did a I worked a year in
Lehi as a deputy fire marshal and then
I've been in American for as the fire
marshal now for about 7 years and 4
months. Um so I have a few years of
experience. I've also kind of
participated on the board of the fire
marshals association. Um and my interest
comes from the invite from from uh Chief
Alred. He asked me if I would be on the
the board and he's willing to help out
and and so I I'd like to reciprocate
that if possible.
» Thank you so much. Um Matthew, any
questions?
>> All right. Um and then I believe we have
» All right. Um and then I believe we have
the last of our crew joining us um
online. Uh Scott, uh can you hear me?
Okay.
>> Yep.
» Yep.
>> Awesome. Take a minute uh introduce
» Awesome. Take a minute uh introduce
yourself um and why you're interested in
serving on this board.
I kind of just like Matt, I I actually
have 38 years of fire service. I spent
30 years on a fire engine and then I
retired and then they asked me to come
back as a fire inspector/ deputy fire
marshall. I've been back at Murray for
about seven years now working in the
fire marshall's office working
in code and inspections and all our new
construction and then I also do a little
bit of fire investigation.
Thank you so much, Scott. Any fun
questions?
>> Uh, have you have you had an appeal
» Uh, have you have you had an appeal
before? Have you done an appeal before?
>> Have I been involved in any appeals? No.
» Have I been involved in any appeals? No.
>> Okay.
» Okay.
>> We we usually like we have a lot of
» We we usually like we have a lot of
people that seem like they want to
argue with us, but we try and educate as
we inform them. We we can show them the
code. We can show them why we're reading
it this way. And we haven't had to had
an appeal in Murray at all.
>> Good. Well, I mean, I'd like to say I
» Good. Well, I mean, I'd like to say I
hope you get an interesting one, but
since you're doing it for Salt Lake
City, I hope they're all boring. And uh
yeah,
thank you for your willingness to serve
Salt Lake.
>> You're welcome.
» You're welcome.
>> Um thank you all for uh your willingness
» Um thank you all for uh your willingness
to step forward and serve on this uh
board of appeals. Um you will be placed
on the consent agenda of this evening um
at 7 pm. Um you're welcome to tune in
online or in person if you'd like to,
but you need not be present to win. Um
we are grateful for your uh willingness
to serve and um we'll approve those uh
we'll approve your application this
evening as part of that consent agenda.
Thank you all so much.
» Okay.
>> Thank you.
We're going to dosey-do back to um the
community development and capital
improvement programs advisory board. Um
Jordan Moss has been is here with us in
person. And so Jordan um would love for
you to just uh come forward uh uh at the
table. Yep. Step on up. Come on down.
Prices right style. We don't have any
appliances for you, but [laughter]
there are some capital improvement
programs. Um Jordan, uh would love for
you just to take a minute and share a
little bit about yourself um and why
you're interested in serving on this
board.
» Please use the microphone.
» Hello. Perfect. Thank you. Um thank you
so much for taking the time. I
appreciate everyone allowing me to be
here. Uh my name is Jordan Moss. Um I
work in uh banking for about 10 years.
Um the last four years specifically in
portfolio management for the community
reinvestment act. Um I helped manage a
lot of affordable housing projects here
in Salt Lake City. And that's one of the
ways in which I got familiar with the
city and helped kind of understand the
organizations and the way that um uh
kind of the collaborative effort that's
necessary to create kind of change in
the community. And so bringing that
passion as long as with um working with
uh grants and decisioning on grants as
well to hopefully bring some of that
knowledge and experience um to kind of
continue the good work in the city. So
yeah, it's a little bit about me.
>> Thank you so much. Uh Jordan, any
» Thank you so much. Uh Jordan, any
questions, comments?
All right, I believe we have another
person um who has joined us online. Um
Josh Strickland, can you hear me? Okay.
>> Um
» Um
>> yes.
» yes.
>> Hi Josh.
» Hi Josh.
um go ahead and just uh you know share a
little bit about yourself um take a
minute and you know why you're
interested in in serving on this board.
>> Yeah. Um I am a financial analyst uh
» Yeah. Um I am a financial analyst uh
here at Wheeler Machinery um unlike some
of the uh previous interviews. I am
actually not originally from Salt Lake
and only moved here recently. But um I
think
partially some of my college experience
and then being at Wheeler now as a
financial analyst
um I think it I think there's things I
want to learn more about the budgeting
process and I think maybe learning you
know how governments work with grants
and and whatnot at a young age I think I
think um is something I'm kind of
interested in in diving uh more into.
So,
» thank you so much. Um, I have a question
for both of you. This is a collaborative
body. Have you had any experience on
committees or anything like that? And
how's it gone?
» I'll jump in. Um, so, uh, I recently
transitioned to a role. I work at Alli
Bank um with our corporate corporate
social responsibility team and um we we
facilitate kind of all the foundation
grants and so we have a committee that
um intakes all of the grants from all
over the country and we have kind of a
matrix that we work through that helps
decision on those grants and so that's
kind of the the main experience I have
working with grants and kind of
understanding how to um best facilitate
which grants are going to work for for
in our in our in our cases is either
financial education, workforce
development or things of that nature. So
that's usually um that's kind of some of
the experience I have.
>> Yeah,
» Yeah,
>> Josh.
» Josh.
>> Um and then so so I do not have any
» Um and then so so I do not have any
specific grant experience, but serving
on on boards um at Old Miss, I went to
the University of Mississippi um I
helped manage a $600,000 portfolio uh of
real money which is donated by the
Tennessee Valley Tennessee Valley
Authority. Um, and I got to the
opportunity to be on that board and make
investment decisions and um, uh, present
it to our board of adviserss, which at
the time were exin investment bankers.
I'm not sure if they are anymore, but um
I think I and I just mentioned that
because I think um them having that
background kind of sparred a lot of
questions um and you know really being
detailed and and what we present and
what kind of data we pull. Um so I think
I think that uh I was in a few other
clubs as well. Um but I would say that's
probably
a board that I had experience serving
on.
Thank you. I I was more just interested
if you play well with others, and it
seems like you both will. So,
congratulations.
>> Council member Dugan.
» Council member Dugan.
>> I'm just uh really appreciative of the
» I'm just uh really appreciative of the
uh the younger generation stepping up.
I'm I am on the other end of the
generations and it's great to see uh
both the two of you and also the four
previous ones uh stepping up to the
plate on this one because it's a big
endeavor to uh step into this role and
and um give us your voice because that's
what we want. So appreciate it very
much. So thank you.
>> Thank you for having us.
» Thank you for having us.
>> Uh thank you. you'll hear my final
» Uh thank you. you'll hear my final
shiel, which is um that I shared to the
others, but um you'll be placed on
tonight's consent agenda. Uh the formal
meeting that takes place at 7 p.m.
You're welcome to stick around for that
uh formal meeting or join us online. Um
but you do not do you do not need to be
present to win. Um so you'll be approved
as part of that consent agenda. And
thank you so much to all of the folks
who have stepped forward to serve on on
a board and thank you for being here as
well.
All right. And thank you council members
for and council member Wharton special
acknowledgement for the fun questions
you asked. Um uh moving on to uh item
nine, report of the chair and vice
chair. I don't believe there's anything
to report. Um item 10, report and
announcements from the executive
director. Any announcements? Any
reports? All right. The council work
session is now adjourned and we will
have our formal meeting at 7 p.m.
>> Beautiful.
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