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Our first agenda item today is a

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resolution for a waiver of proximity for

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Silverside Delhi at 2122 South Highland

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Drive. We're gonna welcome at the table

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Austin Kimmel, council policy analyst,

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um to give us a an introduction and uh

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we're going to have Nick Norris, uh

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planning director, and Turo Garcia,

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director of finance operations, and

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manager, um at the table, too. Austin,

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>> thanks, council members. This is a

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» thanks, council members. This is a

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proposal to consider a request for an

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alcohol proximity waiver for Silverside

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Delhi, which is a restaurant at 2122

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South Highland Drive in District 7.

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During the 2026 legislative session, the

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Utah State Legislature approved a new

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process for cities to authorize

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variances when a restaurant wants to

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serve alcohol but may be too close to a

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community location such as a public

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park, playground, or library.

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Before a retail license can be issued by

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the Department of Alcohol Beverage

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Services or DABs, the city council must

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approve an alcohol proximity waiver.

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These variances require a public hearing

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and after 30 days from when that public

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hearing is held, the council may approve

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the waiver. With that, I will turn it

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over to Arturo.

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>> Thank you, council members.

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» Thank you, council members. I'm going to

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go ahead and uh skip a lot of my

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information since Austin did an amazing

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job. Can you speak closer to the

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microphone? So, sorry. Thank you.

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» Um, because this restaurant's located

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across the street from the library, the

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state law requires the city to hold the

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public hearing and approve a waiver

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before the Utah Department of Alcohol

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onremise alcohol license. Um, if we can

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go over to the next slide, please. Um

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so the direct uh pedestrian path um from

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the library located to the entrance of

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the proposed restaurant is approximately

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389 ft which exceeds the requirement in

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Utah code. However, when it's measured

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in a direct line um it's short by 110 ft

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permits um restaurant and does not

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require land use approval to serve

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alcohol. This is an MU1 zone. Um in the

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planning report, the library has an

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outdoor reading area at the rear which

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is not visible from the restaurant and

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there's also a children's area in the

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basement of the library. Um, in the same

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building, uh, where Silverside Deli is

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located, there are other restaurants

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that are licensed to serve alcohol. Um,

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these restaurants were approved before

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the current proximity rules. And then

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right on that picture. And they are, um,

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classified as a bar and restaurant

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division finds no impact to the library

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approved. And if we can go to the last

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council may authorize local consent and

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um you may authorize business license to

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sign off on the on the waiver.

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think right next door adjacent to the

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the library and then there's uh the

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restaurants across the street at the

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corner of 21st and Highland. So I've I

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think this is an easy waiver to approve

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appreciate this process that the

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legislature allow us to to to have. Um

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you know, additional uh takes additional

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steps to communicate with the neighbors.

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uh we want to ensure that the neighbors

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uh nearby know about this. And so we

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send them, you know, some mail uh to

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ensure that everybody has a voice at the

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table when these decisions are made. So

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beyond what the law requires. Now we are

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moving on to item number two, which is

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an ordinance uh for a maximum daily

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water use text amendment. We're gonna

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keep Austin Kimmel at the table, our

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council policy analyst. We're gonna keep

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Nick Nick Norris at the table. Thank

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you, uh, planning director, but I want

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to welcome Laura Briefer, director of

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uh, to the table. Austin,

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a very quick introduction before handing

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it over to Nick. Um, this is a proposal

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to amend Salt Lake City Code, Title 21A,

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to limit water use to new

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non-residential land uses with some

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exceptions. The proposed text amendment

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would cap maximum daily use for new

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non-residential properties at $200,000

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200,000 gallons per day for these

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properties. This mirrors a recent

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proposal the council approved in March

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of this year in in which it uh limited

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the maximum daily water use in chapter

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title 17 of city code which regulates

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per public services like utilities and

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defines that maximum water use. Um I'll

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turn that over to Nick now to go into a

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little bit more details.

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Uh so as Austin just mentioned, this was

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in this proposal's in uh reaction to the

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temporary land use regulations that the

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city council adopted on March 24th of

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this year. Uh under state code, they can

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be in effect for 180 days unless the

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city makes those temporary regulations

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permanent, which would have to happen

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before September 20th, 2026.

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use regulation was enacted primarily due

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to um a couple of u climate related uh

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realities that we are facing uh with the

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um winter on record also I think the

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driest and uh that that trend is mostly

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continued at least for our area and so

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if not gotten worse. So um next slide.

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So the key changes here really uh focus

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on the exempt land uses. You can see the

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uh stricken language is the old exit

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code before the temporary land use

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regulations and underlined is new. The

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primary change is that uh it was related

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to govern owner operated facilities that

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primarily provide social services and uh

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our zoning code. There's been some

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questions about what that means and our

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zoning code doesn't define what a social

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service is and but it does direct us to

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Webster's dictionary when we don't have

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a definition

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and that definition is a of social

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services is a program or effort designed

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to promote human or societal well-being

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specifically organized help for people

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job training or with medical needs such

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as addiction or mental illness. So

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code. And I believe that's all we have.

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typical water usage question. Can you

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give me an example, what does 200,000

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gallons of water a day look like?

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use. And when we first uh enacted the

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changes to title or to chapter 17 and

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the land use ordinance back in 2021

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2022, we did an analysis of um all of

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the large water users on our system. And

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what we found is most industry can fit

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within that 200,000 gallons per day. So

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um some government other government

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facilities, hospitals, those types of

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things. Um and uh it it really um we

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really didn't have a lot of uses above

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200,000 gallons per day except for some

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extreme outliers like um oil refining.

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context, when we did that analysis, it

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was in large largely in response to a

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lot of proposals we were getting uh in

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areas of the city that were just being

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developed, such as the northwest

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quadrant in a much more industrial

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context. And we wanted to make sure that

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we were being good stewards of our water

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resources um as we move forward. and

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also a result of a growing water smart

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workshop that Nick and I attend attended

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for a couple of days to think about the

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ways we tie land use and water together.

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>> So then acknowledging that most of our

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» So then acknowledging that most of our

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industry especially you know we

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inherited the refineries like you said

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they've been here a century now so we

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we're learning to coexist with them but

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they are not the template for what we

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are moving forward. So with the

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understanding that most of our industry

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is well within this 200,000

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and with the acknowledgement that I

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think my district has the only remaining

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rural land in the city um and does not

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have

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large farms, although I probably should

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ask what 200,000 [clears throat]

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agricultural gallons accomplishes. Um

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I'm wondering how we arrived at these

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exemptions because we don't have it for

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hospitals and for um agriculture. I'm

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willing to have the conversation, but I

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don't know of a homeless shelter that's

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housing enough people to justify a

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typical average use exemp exemption that

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exceeds 200,000. It feels like it leaves

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us open to a lot of twisting of words

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and intentions with facilities. Um, also

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houses of worship, coffee made on Sunday

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mornings in the nonLDDS and the filling

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of the communion cups should well be

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within that 200,000. So on an average

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typically expected use for houses of

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worship and social services. I'm really

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struggling with why we're providing that

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as an avenue for exemption. I'm even

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struggling with why the agricultural or

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the social services or the hospitals

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since they're well within it. But I'm

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never willing to gamble on the safety of

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people. And

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>> so like if something happens in an

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» so like if something happens in an

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emergency, I'm not going to hold anyone

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accountable if they use 201,000 gallons

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to make sure that our neighbors are safe

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during the big earthquake. We're talking

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about zoning for everyday expected use.

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How did we arrive at those

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classifications for exemption? It feels

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like we're creating too much latitude

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for people to push us. AI services might

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be considered social services at some

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point. I think um that goes to the

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process that we took in 2021 and 2022

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and I'm looking to Nick too because we

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received some feedback from stakeholders

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as we put that those ordinances forward.

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Um and so for instance, the um

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agricultural community was very

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interested in being exempt from the

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those from that cap even though we don't

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really have that much agriculture in the

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Salt Lake Valley. Uh some of our larger

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water users um on our system do consist

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of um uh churches and church properties

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um or or processes associated with uh

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those institutions as well as a lot of

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other government facilities like like

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our parks and cemetery and those types

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of things. So we tried to we tried to

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cut we tried to find a natural break in

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uh to leave us some flexibility and to

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make sure that we have flexibility with

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those types of social services. Um but

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you know that's why we're at the table

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again [laughter] looking at whether that

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ordinance needs to be revised. I hope

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that answers your question.

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>> Yeah. Part of it is the way the zoning

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» Yeah. Part of it is the way the zoning

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code defines what an institutional use

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is so broad.

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>> Yeah. that it could be interpreted that

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» Yeah. that it could be interpreted that

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lots of different things might fit

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there. And so this was an attempt to

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narrow it down to institutional uses

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that generally provide some public good.

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>> But if I understand what

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» But if I understand what

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>> I'm in general support of this

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» I'm in general support of this

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ordinance, I think you've done exquisite

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work. I am okay with us taking it even

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further. I was just in the Carolinas and

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they are under a drought. This isn't

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just an US thing. This is a human

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behavior thing. We have got to get our

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heads and our hands around the water

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crisis and start to manage things more

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responsibly. It is literally a human

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survival issue. So for me in my in my

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two cents, I'm I would be happier if we

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went even stricter on this and did not

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create so many ex exemptions.

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>> I I I agree. I mean I circled the place

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» I I I agree. I mean I circled the place

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of worship when I when I read that. Um I

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I understand that trying to balance the

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you know the the pressures that we are

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under. Um but I'm not sure that there's

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going to be a lot of need for you know

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for that but there's always a process to

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negotiate I guess at some point. Um but

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I don't know if there is this is an a

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good opportunity to show that we uh to

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show in an in ordinance that this is uh

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this is that important. Um so I don't

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know any other thoughts

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about keeping narrowing it even more

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maybe. Yeah, I'm I'm open to that idea

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because you you raised some good points

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because originally back in 21 when we

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were discussing this uh uh there was

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some uh discussion on lowering it from

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200,000 down to 100,000 or $150,000

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gallons a day uh because uh all the

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businesses I think in Salt Lake City

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except for a couple outliers were below

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that line. Uh but we came to the

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consensus that 200,000 was a good

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number. But you you bring up and this is

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to close some of the loops that we had

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there. But also just because again the

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water's so precious. Uh and maybe that

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maybe it is say we need to look at just

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there is no exceptions on that in this

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case except for maybe some um city

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functions. So,

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I'm not uh I'm not opposed to it. So, I

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would I'm open to having a conversation

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on that one.

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>> Yeah, I would love the AI data center

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» Yeah, I would love the AI data center

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that's dedicated to uh preventing

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teenage suicide could be considered a

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social service and then become exempt

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from this. You know, I I I just think

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that we don't see what's coming. And the

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I what I do know is protecting water is

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a basic human need and [clears throat]

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that to me falls under public safety

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like making sure there is a fireman or

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police person responding when they call

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911.

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>> Yeah.

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» Yeah.

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>> Will you repeat your definition of

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» Will you repeat your definition of

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social service? Um was that in a slide?

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>> No.

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» No.

439
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>> No. Just sorry. What was that?

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» No. Just sorry. What was that?

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>> Social services your definition because

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» Social services your definition because

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>> I'm not sure. Yeah. I would love a

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» I'm not sure. Yeah. I would love a

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little more clarity on what that means.

446
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>> Yeah. So, that was that definition I

447
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» Yeah. So, that was that definition I

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read. Um,

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>> will you repeat it

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» will you repeat it

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>> and I'm happy to read it again. It says,

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» and I'm happy to read it again. It says,

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"A program or effort designed to promote

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human or societal well-being,

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specifically organized help for people

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who are in need of assistant with basic

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needs such as food, housing, safety, or

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job training, or with medical needs such

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as addiction or mental illness.

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>> Okay.

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And will that be that definition be

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included on the on the on

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>> so it's not included in our code and

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» so it's not included in our code and

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what our code says is if we don't define

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a term then we use the current version

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of the Webster dictionary and that

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definition is directly from the Webster

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dictionary. The the downside of that is

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that we don't control the Webster

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dictionary.

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>> So that could change. Um and so it's

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» So that could change. Um and so it's

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very easy to add a definition like this

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or to our code or simply remove that

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except exemption. I I prefer that we add

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the language into the code that we think

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it is the what our interpretation of the

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social services is and we control as

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many variables as we can because to that

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point I it would be very hard for people

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to say that there is a an AI you know

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that is dedicated to you know because

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it's very clear in the definition but I

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but I I do I would prefer that we

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include the the the definition but we

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also we explore narrowing it even more

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um if other council members feel like it

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seems like maybe three of us are sort of

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support um to add more more narrowing if

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that makes sense.

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>> So I do think that because this is a

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» So I do think that because this is a

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temporary land use we're limited to this

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section of our code. We are about to

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start a process with public util

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utilities where we review all of our

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land uses and where they're allowed to

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see if there's other land uses that

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might need to be subject to further

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restrictions. Data centers is obviously

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one of those whether it's a closed loop

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system or not types of things. Some, you

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know, in like the North Point area, data

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centers are required to have a closed

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loop which uses significantly less water

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than an openloop system. So, those are

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all things that we can that we plan on

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looking at, but that might be outside

510
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the realm of this unless you're adding

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more specific uses that

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would otherwise be prohibited.

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>> Council member Napier Pierce,

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» Council member Napier Pierce,

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>> Mr. Chair, thank you. Um, just

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» Mr. Chair, thank you. Um, just

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clarifying when you say narrowing, do

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you mean lowering the ceiling

519
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>> of of the water? No, I meant giving less

520
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» of of the water? No, I meant giving less

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exceptions or naming less exceptions.

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So, we're not talking about messing with

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the 200,000. Okay. Thank you.

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>> The,

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» The,

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you know, to to your comment a second

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ago, I will love the administration to

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uh to put that lens of, you know, across

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the board. And one of the things that we

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we talked uh uh many times in the past

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and and between us is the issues of

532
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lawns and you know complexes and you

533
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know I would love to see a a harsh

534
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approach across the board and see what

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levers we can we can pull even if it's

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you know for the future for new

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approvals but also trying to figure out

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what to do backwards for those that have

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been approved and how do we incentivize

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them or you know what what levers do we

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have? I think this council feels very

542
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strongly about you know the use of

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water. Um and we want to find the tools

544
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and we are a little odds and trying to

545
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find out what tools we have available.

546
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Um, it might also be a good idea at some

547
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point when we have some time to go

548
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,679
through our updated water supply and

549
00:25:49,679 --> 00:25:53,120
demand plan um that looks out the next

550
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:56,320
50 years or so and our updated water

551
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,640
conservation plan because in addition to

552
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the land use code, there are some

553
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,400
recommendations

554
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,080
um for chapter 17 that at some point

555
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,960
might be interesting to discuss around

556
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,000
um wasted water ordinances and things

557
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,039
like that. Um that are less targeted at

558
00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:18,240
a type of land use and more targeted at

559
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,159
a much more careful stewardship and

560
00:26:22,159 --> 00:26:25,600
management of the water. Um and in

561
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:26,799
addition to that a lot of other

562
00:26:26,799 --> 00:26:29,279
engagement. So you know working with our

563
00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:31,279
community members who are large water

564
00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:33,279
users and doing audits on their

565
00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:36,240
facilities and things like that. So um

566
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,159
there may be a lot of tools in our tool

567
00:26:38,159 --> 00:26:40,880
box um that we are using now that could

568
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,520
also be um enhanced.

569
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,390
>> Thank you so much.

570
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:44,400
» Thank you so much.

571
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:44,630
>> Yeah,

572
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» Yeah,

573
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,470
>> that will be amazing to see. Council

574
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:46,480
» that will be amazing to see. Council

575
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:47,520
member D.

576
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,950
>> Yeah, I just want to also make sure that

577
00:26:48,950 --> 00:26:48,960
» Yeah, I just want to also make sure that

578
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,880
we all are aware that we have to have

579
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,360
this approved by September 20th because

580
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that's a six-month deadline. So I think

581
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,240
we just backed that but I think we're do

582
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,039
we have a public hearing on this stuff?

583
00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:04,720
But I'm all I'm open to the to the more

584
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,240
restrictive language on the uh as you

585
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,440
said chair

586
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,669
>> I think we have time right maybe

587
00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:11,679
» I think we have time right maybe

588
00:27:11,679 --> 00:27:12,159
hopefully

589
00:27:12,159 --> 00:27:13,430
>> I just want to make sure that part is

590
00:27:13,430 --> 00:27:13,440
» I just want to make sure that part is

591
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:13,679
yeah

592
00:27:13,679 --> 00:27:15,269
>> okay thank you for that

593
00:27:15,269 --> 00:27:15,279
» okay thank you for that

594
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:17,750
>> the definition

595
00:27:17,750 --> 00:27:17,760
» the definition

596
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,590
>> yeah can we just is it clear that the

597
00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:19,600
» yeah can we just is it clear that the

598
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,760
the council would like the definition of

599
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,520
social services to be included in the

600
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,039
final ordinance

601
00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:27,990
>> feel okay without including the language

602
00:27:27,990 --> 00:27:28,000
» feel okay without including the language

603
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,870
>> and with that are we looking at the

604
00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:30,880
» and with that are we looking at the

605
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,799
larger ordinance to potentially even

606
00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:35,039
pair down the exemptions even more.

607
00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:36,799
That's the temporary with the longer

608
00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:39,039
term. I'm happy with that.

609
00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:40,310
>> All right, we'll provide you with an

610
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:40,320
» All right, we'll provide you with an

611
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,080
updated ordinance reflecting that

612
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:42,960
definition.

613
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:43,909
>> Thank you so much.

614
00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:43,919
» Thank you so much.

615
00:27:43,919 --> 00:27:44,549
>> Thank you.

616
00:27:44,549 --> 00:27:44,559
» Thank you.

617
00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:45,510
>> Thank you.

618
00:27:45,510 --> 00:27:45,520
» Thank you.

619
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,710
>> Uh moving on to item number three.

620
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:48,720
» Uh moving on to item number three.

621
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,039
This is an ordinance to uh for enhancing

622
00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:53,520
transparency for public for police

623
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,240
automatic license plate reader systems.

624
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,080
The council will receive a brief

625
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,600
introduction from Michael Sanders.

626
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,679
council policy analyst and Hannah

627
00:28:01,679 --> 00:28:03,919
Bickery, senior city attorney uh joining

628
00:28:03,919 --> 00:28:06,640
us at the table. Our chief readers are

629
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,720
here as well for questions if we have

630
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,039
any.

631
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:17,029
Michael, it's your time.

632
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:18,559
Okay,

633
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:21,120
great. [sighs]

634
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:24,960
Thank you, council. So,

635
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,679
in December of 2025, the council held a

636
00:28:27,679 --> 00:28:30,399
public hearing regarding a 2024 COPS

637
00:28:30,399 --> 00:28:32,159
grant, which, if approved, would have

638
00:28:32,159 --> 00:28:34,640
accepted $224,000

639
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,399
to purchase and install automatic

640
00:28:36,399 --> 00:28:38,559
license plate readers on major egress

641
00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:40,559
and ingress roads as part of a multi-

642
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:43,200
agency effort to improve public safety

643
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,520
and reduce criminal activity. During the

644
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,279
public hearing, many constituents

645
00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:49,440
expressed that they were concerned

646
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,880
regarding the Salt Lake City Police

647
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,960
Department's use of ALPRs, particularly

648
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,960
as they related to privacy, civil

649
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,679
liberties, and the potential for abuse.

650
00:28:57,679 --> 00:28:59,679
Following the public hearing, council

651
00:28:59,679 --> 00:29:02,159
chose to defer action on the grant, and

652
00:29:02,159 --> 00:29:03,600
then council leadership requested

653
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,799
council staff to work with the

654
00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:06,799
attorney's office and police department

655
00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:08,320
to craft an ordinance to address

656
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,840
concerns related to the police

657
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,159
department's use of ALPRs. That's what

658
00:29:12,159 --> 00:29:14,080
we're going to present to you today.

659
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,510
Next slide.

660
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,200
So this ordinance will be housed in the

661
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,600
same section of code as the bodywn

662
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,679
camera ordinance. The chapter is going

663
00:29:23,679 --> 00:29:26,399
to be renamed to technology use and the

664
00:29:26,399 --> 00:29:27,840
chapter will then be split into two

665
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,840
parts. It will retain the bodywn camera

666
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,240
ordinance and add this new ALPR

667
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,039
ordinance. It will create regulations

668
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:37,200
over four main categories. Authorized

669
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,840
uses, the sharing of ALPR data,

670
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,399
training, and audits and reporting. Next

671
00:29:42,399 --> 00:29:45,110
slide.

672
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,960
The ordinance allows for the Salt Lake

673
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,360
City Police Department to use ALPRs as

674
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,760
outlined in applicable federal, state,

675
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,760
and local law. And the slide here

676
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,600
outlines the allowed uses from state

677
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,440
code.

678
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:04,470
Next slide.

679
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,399
Additionally, state law allows police

680
00:30:06,399 --> 00:30:09,039
departments to use ALPRs to verify valid

681
00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:11,200
vehicle registrations, confirm vehicle

682
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,360
identifications, verify insurance

683
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,039
information, and identify stolen

684
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:20,549
vehicles. Next slide.

685
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:22,480
Our proposed ordinance also includes

686
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,640
several expressly prohibited uses of

687
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,600
ALPRs. Our ordinance would prohibit the

688
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,919
use of facial recognition, targeting an

689
00:30:29,919 --> 00:30:31,679
individual based on their exercise of

690
00:30:31,679 --> 00:30:33,440
their first amendment rights and

691
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,200
discrimination against an individual

692
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,279
individual based on race, color,

693
00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:39,600
religion, sex, sexual orientation,

694
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,440
national origin, age, disability, or

695
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:46,870
genetic information. Next slide.

696
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,960
One of the things that make ALPR systems

697
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,840
effective is data sharing. This can be

698
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,760
seen in some recent successful stories

699
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,200
of the recovering of missing or

700
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,000
endangered persons. And entities sharing

701
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,840
data with each other helped to resolve

702
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,720
crimes quicker. For an entity to receive

703
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,279
direct access to our ALPR system, they

704
00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:08,640
must enter into a formal with us. And

705
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,880
lines 58 through 100 of the proposed

706
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,200
ordinance outline the terms which must

707
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,600
be included in thatou.

708
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,559
Next slide.

709
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:20,240
It's important to note that when we

710
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,279
enter into an MOU for ALPR data sharing,

711
00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:25,600
entities are granted controlled query

712
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,679
only access. They can search but they

713
00:31:27,679 --> 00:31:32,799
cannot alter any data. Next slide.

714
00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:34,640
So these bullet points here outline some

715
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,880
of the highlights of theou requirements

716
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,120
such as requiring the entity to use best

717
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,200
practices, maintain audit logs, and

718
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,519
report data breaches. If at any time

719
00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:45,039
they are found to be in violation of

720
00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:47,760
theou, their access can be revoked upon

721
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:52,640
termination of theou. Next slide.

722
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,799
So all users of the ALPR system either

723
00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:56,720
employed by Salt Lake City or by other

724
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,200
entities must complete training. Next

725
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,760
slide.

726
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,640
Audits. So the ordinance as drafted

727
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,240
requires a Salt Lake City Police

728
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,880
Department to conduct quarterly audits

729
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,279
and to complete an annual comprehensive

730
00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:13,919
review. I like to think of these in

731
00:32:13,919 --> 00:32:17,039
terms of big A and little A audits. So

732
00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:19,360
the department will complete four little

733
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,360
A audits every year where they are

734
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,080
essentially taking batches of the ALPR

735
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,320
query data and ensuring baseline

736
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,120
compliance with ordinance and policy.

737
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,760
Then the annual big A audit will cover

738
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,919
overall system use, access controls,

739
00:32:33,919 --> 00:32:36,399
data retention practices, and compliance

740
00:32:36,399 --> 00:32:38,960
trends. The annual review will be posted

741
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,480
publicly on the police department's

742
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,679
website.

743
00:32:41,679 --> 00:32:45,269
And next slide.

744
00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:47,200
So the final four slides contain some

745
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,720
points which have previously been shared

746
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,399
with the council that I just want to

747
00:32:50,399 --> 00:32:52,559
remind everyone of regarding Salt Lake

748
00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:54,799
City Police Department's ALPR use. I'm

749
00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:55,919
not going to read all of them, but I

750
00:32:55,919 --> 00:32:57,360
just want to hit a couple of the main

751
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,360
points. So the city's contracted ALPR

752
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,559
vendor is Vigilant Solutions. The ALPR

753
00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:07,039
system is used exclusively for criminal

754
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:08,559
investigations.

755
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:11,679
Next slide.

756
00:33:11,679 --> 00:33:14,240
To be able to search or query the ALPR

757
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,640
system, users must log in and document a

758
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,720
case using a case number, choose an

759
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,399
authorized purpose, and an authorized

760
00:33:20,399 --> 00:33:25,509
reason for the search. Next slide.

761
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:29,200
So, all of these queries are auditable.

762
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,960
Currently, the audits are conducted by

763
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,760
nonsworn civilian staff. And I just want

764
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,880
to note that recommendation 1.3 of the

765
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,120
2025 performance audit of the Salt Lake

766
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,919
City Police Department uh stated that

767
00:33:41,919 --> 00:33:44,000
quote executive leadership of the Salt

768
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,360
Lake City Police Department should

769
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,279
consider the merits of an internal audit

770
00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:49,360
function. The inclusion of an audit

771
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,360
function could identify inefficiencies,

772
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,960
ensure compliance, and improve the

773
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:59,430
department's performance. Next slide.

774
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,919
So just now one note on the real-time

775
00:34:01,919 --> 00:34:05,360
crime center. ALPRs are a key component

776
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,079
of the real-time crime center and also

777
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:09,919
there have been some concerns related to

778
00:34:09,919 --> 00:34:13,679
AI usage with ALPRs. The real-time crime

779
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:15,520
center does have limited AI

780
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,240
capabilities. However, it can only be

781
00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:20,639
used for object recognition and any use

782
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:22,480
of object recognition is reviewed and

783
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,960
verified by human before use for any

784
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,040
investigative purposes. It is not

785
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,679
generate. It is not generative AI and

786
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:32,240
facial recognition is not used. Next

787
00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:36,389
slide.

788
00:34:36,399 --> 00:34:39,359
So that's all we have. And just a note

789
00:34:39,359 --> 00:34:41,119
on the sequencing of this. We're

790
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:42,639
scheduled to set the date for public

791
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:45,119
hearing on this ordinance on August 18th

792
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:46,720
and it's proposed to hold a public

793
00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:49,119
hearing on September 15th. And with

794
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:51,119
that, I'll pass it back to the council

795
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:53,280
for question and discussion if we have

796
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,440
any questions. We've got me legal and

797
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,879
we've got the police department here as

798
00:34:56,879 --> 00:34:57,440
well.

799
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,790
>> Yeah. I want to highlight that um the

800
00:35:00,790 --> 00:35:00,800
» Yeah. I want to highlight that um the

801
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,119
work uh on sorting through this uh from

802
00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:06,640
from the the agency, the our chief and

803
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,880
their their staff, legal team and uh

804
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,119
Michael and the council staff uh to make

805
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:13,119
this happen. I this is an ordinance that

806
00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:15,680
started on this side of the aisle. Um

807
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,400
you know uh as a response from this

808
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:23,520
council uh to ensure that the city has

809
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,839
uh clear

810
00:35:25,839 --> 00:35:28,320
boundaries uh and a clear process and

811
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,359
how to uh use these data uh and how to

812
00:35:31,359 --> 00:35:33,680
use these tools correctly. So I I really

813
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,960
appreciate uh the the the ordinance that

814
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,880
we have in front of us that we requested

815
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,599
as a council. Um, so council members, I

816
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:43,119
don't know if you had had a chance to

817
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:45,839
review u any other questions you have or

818
00:35:45,839 --> 00:35:50,240
or thoughts. Council member Ritro,

819
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:51,829
>> I want to start by saying thank you to

820
00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:51,839
» I want to start by saying thank you to

821
00:35:51,839 --> 00:35:54,079
the police department. This issue, as

822
00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:55,680
you know, when I look at it is so much

823
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,280
bigger than just license plate readers

824
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,800
and what you do, but you're the tip of

825
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,160
the spear because it's really visible.

826
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,079
Um, so thank you for the hard work

827
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:06,320
already. When we talk about the training

828
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,359
that the sworn officers are receiving,

829
00:36:09,359 --> 00:36:13,280
is this a generalized data

830
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,920
management kind of training? Is are we

831
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,599
talking about all places? Are we talking

832
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:19,680
about all the ways that we're capturing

833
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,440
data or are we specifically training

834
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,520
them just on license plate readers? And

835
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,280
if so, is there something unique to the

836
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,320
license plate reader? I, you know, I was

837
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,680
just asking council member Warren. Like

838
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,280
it's really funny to me that the state

839
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,200
has approved this and said guidance for

840
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,480
it, but they still won't do red light

841
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,560
cameras. In my mind, I can't understand

842
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,640
what the difference is and why we're

843
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,960
allowing one and not the other. So, from

844
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,720
the experts who actually use it, is

845
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:44,720
there something unique about the license

846
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:46,240
plate readers that we're training on or

847
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:48,000
is this just a comprehensive we're

848
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,520
making sure that anyone who interacts

849
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,760
with our people's data, they're going to

850
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,680
protect it?

851
00:36:53,680 --> 00:37:01,030
>> I'd like to pitch that to Chief Fred.

852
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,400
I have not personally been through the

853
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,839
license plate reader training here at

854
00:37:03,839 --> 00:37:06,560
the PD and probably based on this uh

855
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,079
ordinance if it passes we'll be

856
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:10,320
adjusting that training but I think

857
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,920
historically the training is really

858
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,240
focused on the license plate reader

859
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:16,960
program and the policy uh policies uh

860
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,760
that we have around it specifically but

861
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,160
we're certainly open to broadening that

862
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,160
uh given the other technologies that we

863
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,000
utilize. Um, so we could definitely

864
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,200
broaden it.

865
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,510
>> I just I just worry that we like forests

866
00:37:29,510 --> 00:37:29,520
» I just I just worry that we like forests

867
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,640
and trees overfocus on one thing when as

868
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,800
I said this you all are doing work that

869
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,560
you shouldn't have to do. This is a this

870
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,560
is a technology thing that we should be

871
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,160
off someone out externally should be

872
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,240
offering you guidance on how to protect.

873
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:44,320
But I don't think any system I've not

874
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,240
seen the business or the municipality

875
00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:48,079
that's prepared to step into this. So, I

876
00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:50,320
just want to make sure we don't get too

877
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,240
in the weeds on just license plate

878
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:53,760
readers and we're cognizant of all the

879
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,040
ways that we're collecting data and

880
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,119
we're protecting people in every way

881
00:37:57,119 --> 00:37:58,640
that we're collecting that data and

882
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,599
using it. Um, we talked about the access

883
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:04,079
being revoked for those who can access

884
00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:06,880
the system. So, can you help me

885
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,680
understand that too? Are we saying that

886
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:14,320
another agency, let's say the ex X city

887
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,720
police department, do they is it like we

888
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:19,280
have an ongoing

889
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,920
access agreement with them and then they

890
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,800
can only use that access when they come

891
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,200
with a valid case number or is each

892
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,839
incident of accessing it a new license?

893
00:38:31,839 --> 00:38:34,480
So, so if if another police department

894
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,079
wanted to access our system, they would

895
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:39,839
have to enter into a robustou that uh

896
00:38:39,839 --> 00:38:42,560
Miss Vigory worked on extensively and

897
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,920
she could speak to that. But each time

898
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,920
that the system is accessed, a case

899
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,040
number, a reason, and crime type has to

900
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,920
be entered for each query and then

901
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,680
that's logged and tracked. So we're

902
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,640
saying if they even once are found to be

903
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,240
in violation then the entirety of their

904
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:07,200
ability in going forward is compromised.

905
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,630
>> We can just turn it off. Yes.

906
00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:08,640
» We can just turn it off. Yes.

907
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:09,270
>> Okay.

908
00:39:09,270 --> 00:39:09,280
» Okay.

909
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,870
>> We have a flip of a switch.

910
00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:10,880
» We have a flip of a switch.

911
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,030
>> And then how does this work in cases

912
00:39:13,030 --> 00:39:13,040
» And then how does this work in cases

913
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,000
where other levels of government have

914
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,839
privacy or preeemption capabilities? Do

915
00:39:19,839 --> 00:39:22,720
state, county, state, or federal have

916
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:26,640
the ability to come in and use the

917
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,320
supremacy clause and say, "Well, we can

918
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,760
just have this information since you're

919
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,000
capturing it anyway."

920
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,270
>> No. State statute governs the types of

921
00:39:35,270 --> 00:39:35,280
» No. State statute governs the types of

922
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,680
uses for the license plate reader. Um,

923
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,880
the only way that if if someone didn't

924
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,119
agree to those uh to to the to the to

925
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:47,359
theou that we're developing and agree to

926
00:39:47,359 --> 00:39:49,440
follow state statute, we would refuse it

927
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,040
and the only way they could they could

928
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,640
get access to the data would be a court

929
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,160
order or warrant at that point.

930
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,510
>> So DEA, FBI, all of them, they could

931
00:39:57,510 --> 00:39:57,520
» So DEA, FBI, all of them, they could

932
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,200
have their access revoked and we would

933
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,440
be able to stay in control of that until

934
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,200
some Supreme Court decision changes

935
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:05,680
that.

936
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,589
>> That's correct. Yeah, we we could turn

937
00:40:07,589 --> 00:40:07,599
» That's correct. Yeah, we we could turn

938
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:10,320
it off and then if they wanted to compel

939
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,160
to us to turn over information, it would

940
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,680
have to be through a court order or a

941
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:14,960
warrant.

942
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,109
>> By that point, the person sensibly is

943
00:40:17,109 --> 00:40:17,119
» By that point, the person sensibly is

944
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:19,040
not driving around anymore and we can't

945
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,440
use them the real time tracking.

946
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:21,829
>> Yeah.

947
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:21,839
» Yeah.

948
00:40:21,839 --> 00:40:22,950
>> Okay. Thank you.

949
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:22,960
» Okay. Thank you.

950
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,790
>> Yeah. And you know, every agency that

951
00:40:24,790 --> 00:40:24,800
» Yeah. And you know, every agency that

952
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,400
needs access, including federal

953
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,520
agencies, need to enter an anou with the

954
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:34,160
city. Um so you know any federal agency

955
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,760
uh law enforcement agency needs to enter

956
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,760
into an agreement with us to get access

957
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,800
to the data which I think is uh how we

958
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,880
want this data to be used so we have the

959
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:47,599
control of it. Um I do want to uh give

960
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:49,680
the time to two council members have uh

961
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,240
comments before me but I will keep mine

962
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:55,200
for later. So council member Carlson and

963
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,440
then council member Wharton.

964
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,520
Uh Chief, thank you so much for being

965
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,119
here um with us. um have received some

966
00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:05,280
uh questions and as you know there are

967
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,200
questions from the public about the role

968
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,280
of automated um license automatic

969
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,599
license plate reader systems and I'll

970
00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:14,480
just name that we have um with this

971
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,640
particular tool we can have some things

972
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,720
some values in conflict with each other

973
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:21,680
both the value of public safety and

974
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,880
public order and also a value around

975
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,119
concerns about privacy and so I'm

976
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:29,440
holding both of those values in my mind

977
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,359
and I recognize said there can be

978
00:41:31,359 --> 00:41:33,760
concerns about them and so my questions

979
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,680
are really um from a spirit of trying to

980
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,359
understand the technology its

981
00:41:37,359 --> 00:41:40,000
limitations and what happens um in

982
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,200
instances of misuse. So I have one

983
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,000
specific question but I saw on the slide

984
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,680
and this goes back to my trying to

985
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,720
understand this technology. I saw that

986
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:53,040
um there's a capability to search but

987
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,440
not alter data. I don't know if that was

988
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,119
if we can go back to that slide. I

989
00:41:57,119 --> 00:41:59,280
wanted to understand what that meant for

990
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,920
other entities and what does it mean to

991
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,240
alter data and how is that different

992
00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:05,760
from just searching for it.

993
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,670
>> I think what this slide was intending

994
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:07,680
» I think what this slide was intending

995
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,160
but Michael can comment on this if I'm

996
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,119
misunderstanding.

997
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:13,829
>> Yeah, Scott, that's slide seven.

998
00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:13,839
» Yeah, Scott, that's slide seven.

999
00:42:13,839 --> 00:42:15,270
>> Um, and do you want to comment or do you

1000
00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:15,280
» Um, and do you want to comment or do you

1001
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,040
want me to go ahead? Yeah. So, so

1002
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,480
essentially I think what we're saying is

1003
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,800
if another department misused the the

1004
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,720
the system and so they did a query

1005
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:26,400
inappropriately, they didn't have a

1006
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,800
criminal reason or they didn't it was it

1007
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,000
was not in good faith. Um that that

1008
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,560
police department personnel could not go

1009
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,680
in and and and like change the data or

1010
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,440
delete the transaction. Like the

1011
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,680
transaction is logged and that goes for

1012
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,359
our people too. Once a transaction is

1013
00:42:43,359 --> 00:42:45,280
logged, it can't be it can't be edited

1014
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,119
or or or changed or or deleted. So, it's

1015
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:50,800
it's logged. And I think that's what the

1016
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,000
slide was intending.

1017
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,150
>> Okay. Thank you. I was trying just

1018
00:42:54,150 --> 00:42:54,160
» Okay. Thank you. I was trying just

1019
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,680
trying to understand what what that

1020
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,720
distinction meant. Um the next is that I

1021
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:02,480
saw in the staff report that um if uh

1022
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,200
individuals access um this data for an

1023
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,880
inappropriate reason or for not the

1024
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,720
reasons identified um uh both both state

1025
00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:13,119
code and this proposed ordinance. Um

1026
00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:14,800
staff would be held accountable for

1027
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,880
misuse. I understand that's a policy

1028
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,359
direction, but I'm curious, you know, if

1029
00:43:19,359 --> 00:43:21,920
we can ensure that there is swift

1030
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,280
accountability.

1031
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,990
>> Sure. regarding regarding misuse of this

1032
00:43:25,990 --> 00:43:26,000
» Sure. regarding regarding misuse of this

1033
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,839
given that there have been nationwide

1034
00:43:27,839 --> 00:43:30,319
some instances although narrowed of

1035
00:43:30,319 --> 00:43:32,960
police officers using this technology um

1036
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,720
for inappropriate reasons.

1037
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:36,230
>> So there are already currently state

1038
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:36,240
» So there are already currently state

1039
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:38,640
laws in place not directly related to

1040
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,280
ALPR but re related to sharing criminal

1041
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,040
justice information inappropriately

1042
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,599
accessing it inappropriately. So, a

1043
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:49,359
classic example is um an officer looks

1044
00:43:49,359 --> 00:43:53,599
up the driver's license of a of a of a

1045
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:55,599
former girlfriend to find out where

1046
00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:57,440
they're now currently living and get to

1047
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,920
get an address. That type of that type

1048
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:02,240
of behavior. Uh currently, state statute

1049
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:06,079
does not prohibits that. And so what

1050
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:07,520
would typically happen in a case like

1051
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:12,560
that and same with any LPR abuse um that

1052
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,040
if it was one of our own officers um

1053
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,960
that information maybe was captured in

1054
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,720
an audit or someone called in with a

1055
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:21,680
concern um and we found an issue we

1056
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,920
would internally investigate that and

1057
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,800
and likely pass that to another police

1058
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,520
department to to review for it's a class

1059
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,280
B misdemeanor to misuse criminal justice

1060
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,000
data and we would likely refer something

1061
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,280
like that to another police department

1062
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,880
to have a criminal review. We would do

1063
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,200
our own internal review. And then if it

1064
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,200
if it reaches the level of of criminal,

1065
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,359
whether they're prosecuted or not, that

1066
00:44:43,359 --> 00:44:46,079
that is also any any class C or B

1067
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:48,720
misdemeanor offense is also referred to

1068
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:50,319
peace officer standards and training. So

1069
00:44:50,319 --> 00:44:52,400
then you have a third bite at the apple

1070
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,640
essentially, which is now post will be

1071
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,319
looking at their peace officer

1072
00:44:56,319 --> 00:44:59,119
certification. So there's an internal uh

1073
00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:00,560
investigation that could result in

1074
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,000
disciplinary issues for policy

1075
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,839
violations, a criminal review

1076
00:45:03,839 --> 00:45:06,480
potentially in in certain cases, and

1077
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,760
then the the the certification uh

1078
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,520
investigation as well. So those three

1079
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:12,480
areas.

1080
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,150
>> Okay. And um last last question, just

1081
00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:16,160
» Okay. And um last last question, just

1082
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,040
really trying to um understand this

1083
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,640
technology. Um an officer who is trained

1084
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,800
to use the technology is able to access

1085
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,440
it. um of course with a case number and

1086
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,599
of course for a criminal reason. Do they

1087
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:31,520
access that alone or is there someone

1088
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,680
else who it's just recorded that the

1089
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,920
query took place?

1090
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,510
>> It's my understanding that it's just

1091
00:45:37,510 --> 00:45:37,520
» It's my understanding that it's just

1092
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,359
recorded that the query took place.

1093
00:45:39,359 --> 00:45:42,710
>> Okay. Do we know if the technology has

1094
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:42,720
» Okay. Do we know if the technology has

1095
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:46,240
um any capabilities for a second um

1096
00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:48,560
almost like a matching key associated

1097
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,920
with it to ensure and prohibit misuse?

1098
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,760
So essentially you're asking like a

1099
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,680
supervisory approval.

1100
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,069
>> Yes. And and I understand that might be

1101
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:58,079
» Yes. And and I understand that might be

1102
00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:00,480
at odds with wanting to get the

1103
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,720
information in a timely fashion.

1104
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:04,470
>> I don't know if the technology allows

1105
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:04,480
» I don't know if the technology allows

1106
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:05,920
for that type of capability. I would

1107
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:06,960
have to go back and look.

1108
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:07,829
>> Okay. Thank you.

1109
00:46:07,829 --> 00:46:07,839
» Okay. Thank you.

1110
00:46:07,839 --> 00:46:09,190
>> But we I'll do that for you.

1111
00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:09,200
» But we I'll do that for you.

1112
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,349
>> Thank you.

1113
00:46:11,349 --> 00:46:11,359
» Thank you.

1114
00:46:11,359 --> 00:46:12,550
>> I'm going to take a note on my phone.

1115
00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:12,560
» I'm going to take a note on my phone.

1116
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,589
Just

1117
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:19,599
» Thank you. Um Chief, so does

1118
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:21,119
um

1119
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:23,280
you said state code defines what it can

1120
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,880
be used for and one of them is criminal

1121
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,069
investigation.

1122
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:32,480
Is there any more um like guidance or

1123
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,680
specificity there? And the reason for my

1124
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:40,480
question is, how do you prevent um

1125
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,440
um an officer from just saying, "Oh, I I

1126
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,160
was investigating a crime, but it turns

1127
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,880
out there was no crime here, but they've

1128
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,119
already accessed the information." I

1129
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:54,000
mean, other than just declaring that

1130
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,240
they're researching it for a crime, like

1131
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:58,880
how what other controls are there?

1132
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,829
>> Yeah. So, a a case number. So, not only

1133
00:47:01,829 --> 00:47:01,839
» Yeah. So, a a case number. So, not only

1134
00:47:01,839 --> 00:47:03,839
that it's a crime, but the crime type

1135
00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:05,920
and then a case number that has to so

1136
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,839
that has to associate back to a report.

1137
00:47:07,839 --> 00:47:11,440
So, so if if someone put a case number

1138
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,200
in and we found that it's not a real

1139
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,119
case number, you know, that's going to

1140
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:17,520
be in that would be a ter terminable

1141
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,839
offense in my opinion. Um, but we can go

1142
00:47:19,839 --> 00:47:21,520
back to the report and look at the

1143
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,280
specific reason that was outlined in the

1144
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,079
report for the for the check. But what

1145
00:47:26,079 --> 00:47:28,800
if it's um

1146
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,640
there is a case number, there is like a

1147
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,640
legitimate investigation,

1148
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,480
but they're

1149
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,280
um they're accessing accessing

1150
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,079
information that isn't related to that.

1151
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:41,760
Like, does that make sense?

1152
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,270
>> We would have to catch something like

1153
00:47:43,270 --> 00:47:43,280
» We would have to catch something like

1154
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,680
that in an audit or, you know, based on

1155
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,280
a complaint that came in. Um and and and

1156
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,079
that may be a situation where there was

1157
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:54,319
nefarious intent, but it may be that um

1158
00:47:54,319 --> 00:47:56,480
we need to educate, but I mean that

1159
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:57,599
that's one of those things that would

1160
00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:00,240
have to be caught in an audit, I think.

1161
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:00,790
>> Okay.

1162
00:48:00,790 --> 00:48:00,800
» Okay.

1163
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,710
>> You mean someone putting a case number,

1164
00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:02,720
» You mean someone putting a case number,

1165
00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:04,960
a real case number

1166
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,030
>> apparent related to what they're

1167
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:07,040
» apparent related to what they're

1168
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,000
searching for?

1169
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,069
>> Yeah. Yeah. or they or maybe even they

1170
00:48:12,069 --> 00:48:12,079
» Yeah. Yeah. or they or maybe even they

1171
00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:14,720
create a a I don't know how hard it is

1172
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:16,480
to get a case number to say there's an

1173
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,400
open investigation, but maybe they do

1174
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,640
that just to get the data that they want

1175
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,559
and then they're like, "Oh, I I

1176
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:25,680
investigated it's closed case."

1177
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:26,150
>> Yeah.

1178
00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:26,160
» Yeah.

1179
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,670
>> Well, the generated case number that

1180
00:48:27,670 --> 00:48:27,680
» Well, the generated case number that

1181
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,440
goes into our records management system,

1182
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,119
I mean, that's I mean, it's a you know,

1183
00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:32,880
if you generate that, then it generates

1184
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,119
a a report and then it requires a

1185
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:37,920
supervisor's review and approval of that

1186
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,040
report. Mhm.

1187
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,069
>> So, you know, if someone did that and

1188
00:48:42,069 --> 00:48:42,079
» So, you know, if someone did that and

1189
00:48:42,079 --> 00:48:43,680
you know, I mean, again, there's there

1190
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,599
there are ways there are there are

1191
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:47,680
people maybe that would do that and with

1192
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,119
nefarious intent, but I think we would

1193
00:48:49,119 --> 00:48:50,880
be able to catch that with our regular

1194
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,160
controls.

1195
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,349
>> Okay.

1196
00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:53,359
» Okay.

1197
00:48:53,359 --> 00:48:55,990
>> Conser Pierce.

1198
00:48:55,990 --> 00:48:56,000
» Conser Pierce.

1199
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,150
>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Chief.

1200
00:48:58,150 --> 00:48:58,160
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Chief.

1201
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,240
Um I

1202
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:01,839
maybe this is a question that's already

1203
00:49:01,839 --> 00:49:04,640
been asked previously, but in our staff

1204
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,280
report it says uh the city's contracted

1205
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,400
mentor is Vigilant Solutions and only

1206
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,680
authorized SLCPD personnel and approved

1207
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,280
law enforcement partners are permitted

1208
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,240
to access this information. So who are

1209
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:21,119
the approved law enforcement? those who

1210
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:23,359
would go through the training for our

1211
00:49:23,359 --> 00:49:27,119
department and then for other police

1212
00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:29,599
departments, those who enter theou and

1213
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:30,800
then receive the training.

1214
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,510
>> Okay. So, it's not just some random

1215
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:33,520
» Okay. So, it's not just some random

1216
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,559
police officer in Syracuse who happens

1217
00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:38,960
to have a case number. And

1218
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,549
>> if if Syracuse, there's a couple ways

1219
00:49:40,549 --> 00:49:40,559
» if if Syracuse, there's a couple ways

1220
00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:42,400
that could go. So if the Syracuse Police

1221
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,119
Department wanted to access our license

1222
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:47,359
plate reader, they could reach out to

1223
00:49:47,359 --> 00:49:49,599
they could reach out to us and ask us to

1224
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:51,280
conduct the check. We would at that

1225
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,839
point take a case number. We would ask

1226
00:49:53,839 --> 00:49:56,559
for the reason and the crime type and

1227
00:49:56,559 --> 00:49:58,079
then we could run that and provide the

1228
00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:00,319
information or if they wanted to access

1229
00:50:00,319 --> 00:50:02,160
the system directly themselves, they

1230
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,559
could enter into theou go through the

1231
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:07,280
training and then have uh all of the

1232
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,240
outlined uh steps that they would need

1233
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:12,640
to take. So auditing, best practices and

1234
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,240
technology, all those things that we put

1235
00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:16,160
into theou. So those are the two ways

1236
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,480
that another department could get access

1237
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:19,920
to the information.

1238
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,950
>> Do you think it is um

1239
00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:22,960
» Do you think it is um

1240
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,510
>> feasible to have a human gatekeeper

1241
00:50:27,510 --> 00:50:27,520
» feasible to have a human gatekeeper

1242
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,400
instead of just the the query system

1243
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,000
that you were talking about?

1244
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,270
>> Yeah. I mean those are the two ways,

1245
00:50:33,270 --> 00:50:33,280
» Yeah. I mean those are the two ways,

1246
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,040
right? We could have them call us on the

1247
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,400
phone and request that and that's

1248
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,430
>> No, I meant for every request. for every

1249
00:50:39,430 --> 00:50:39,440
» No, I meant for every request. for every

1250
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:40,079
request

1251
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:40,950
>> feasible.

1252
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:40,960
» feasible.

1253
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:41,829
>> Um,

1254
00:50:41,829 --> 00:50:41,839
» Um,

1255
00:50:41,839 --> 00:50:44,870
>> so then you have a second set of eyes on

1256
00:50:44,870 --> 00:50:44,880
» so then you have a second set of eyes on

1257
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:45,760
every request.

1258
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,630
>> I mean, we we could, but it's the same

1259
00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:48,640
» I mean, we we could, but it's the same

1260
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,160
information being provided, whether it's

1261
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,160
put into the system or given to a human,

1262
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,680
that the same information would be

1263
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:54,640
provided. Okay.

1264
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,549
>> Does that make sense? member, you mean

1265
00:50:56,549 --> 00:50:56,559
» Does that make sense? member, you mean

1266
00:50:56,559 --> 00:50:59,520
that a a person from our police

1267
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,559
department um

1268
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:06,880
approves basically the the in inquire

1269
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,880
before it release the information?

1270
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:09,750
>> Is that what you mean?

1271
00:51:09,750 --> 00:51:09,760
» Is that what you mean?

1272
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:10,230
>> Yeah.

1273
00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:10,240
» Yeah.

1274
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:10,790
>> Okay.

1275
00:51:10,790 --> 00:51:10,800
» Okay.

1276
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,630
>> But I mean they would provide this. So

1277
00:51:12,630 --> 00:51:12,640
» But I mean they would provide this. So

1278
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,200
the case number, the crime type, and the

1279
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,240
reason that they have to provide now,

1280
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:20,400
whether they provided that verbally or

1281
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,240
into the system, it would it would

1282
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:23,760
likely get approved and then the

1283
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,440
auditing would would check. You know, we

1284
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:26,960
would do our regular audits to go in.

1285
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,030
>> I'm just trying to look for a guard rail

1286
00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:29,040
» I'm just trying to look for a guard rail

1287
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,200
just to prevent abuse. And I don't know

1288
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,640
what that would be, but we could think

1289
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:33,599
about that for sure.

1290
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:34,230
>> Thank you.

1291
00:51:34,230 --> 00:51:34,240
» Thank you.

1292
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:36,069
>> You're um you had a a point

1293
00:51:36,069 --> 00:51:36,079
» You're um you had a a point

1294
00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:37,440
clarification, right?

1295
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,349
>> Yeah. Just for Victoria, [clears throat]

1296
00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:39,359
» Yeah. Just for Victoria, [clears throat]

1297
00:51:39,359 --> 00:51:42,079
the there was a focus on the license

1298
00:51:42,079 --> 00:51:44,079
plate readers. With this one,

1299
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:46,150
>> there is a group, a working group within

1300
00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:46,160
» there is a group, a working group within

1301
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,599
the city right now working on data

1302
00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:48,480
privacy issues.

1303
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:48,950
>> Yeah.

1304
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:48,960
» Yeah.

1305
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,230
>> They will be addressing the components

1306
00:51:50,230 --> 00:51:50,240
» They will be addressing the components

1307
00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:51,920
that you're talking about and also they

1308
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,359
will still review this to ensure that

1309
00:51:53,359 --> 00:51:54,400
it's consistent.

1310
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,870
>> Yeah. And I wanted to add to that that

1311
00:51:56,870 --> 00:51:56,880
» Yeah. And I wanted to add to that that

1312
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,599
we have flagged that concern from you.

1313
00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:02,720
Um but I think this is what this is

1314
00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:05,520
necessary right now. uh we have we are

1315
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,640
using this this readers right now

1316
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,280
without this boundary. So this is a

1317
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,240
incredible step forward from the city to

1318
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:16,640
actually put it on code on the code not

1319
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,640
on a policy from the department on our

1320
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,200
code and we also have a similar

1321
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,920
ordinance right now with body a cam uh

1322
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,200
camera ordinance. So uh maybe at some

1323
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,240
point we will have to have an umbrella

1324
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:32,720
ordinance uh that manages all other

1325
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:34,720
pieces of data including drones and what

1326
00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:37,119
other other tools that are coming our

1327
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:40,411
way. But what I do think uh this

1328
00:52:40,411 --> 00:52:42,480
[clears throat] ordinance adds is a a

1329
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,760
clear process um and a clear auditing

1330
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,640
process to which we need. I will

1331
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,640
personally and I was um follow this al

1332
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,880
all along while we were going through

1333
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,160
it. I wanted to highlight that uh

1334
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,280
criminal is a piece uh key to the

1335
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,599
searches. They has to be a criminal case

1336
00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:05,599
not a civil case. Civil cases cannot be

1337
00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:08,640
searched. Um which I think is is very

1338
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,440
important to me and to this city. Um I

1339
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,119
will also personally would like that

1340
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:17,520
while we pass this ordinance we ask for

1341
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,359
report to the council when there is

1342
00:53:19,359 --> 00:53:21,920
misuse much like when there is a

1343
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,559
critical incident. um because I think it

1344
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:26,240
is important for us to know when another

1345
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:29,440
department or internal hopefully not uh

1346
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,040
mis misuses um and I will personally

1347
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,760
like to explore if there is I have a

1348
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,559
high level of trust with our officers uh

1349
00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:40,640
and you know with your leadership and

1350
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,319
how you're going to ensure that our

1351
00:53:42,319 --> 00:53:45,040
officers follow as much as you can

1352
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,680
follow the law um but I would love to

1353
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,800
explore additional auditing if possible

1354
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,680
to other agencies so anybody else that

1355
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,640
requests access to us that we have extra

1356
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,480
eyes on them. Um I I wonder uh if there

1357
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,839
is a way of asking them to send us a

1358
00:54:03,839 --> 00:54:05,920
report of all their inquirs, you know,

1359
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,119
and why, you know, it's basically put

1360
00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:11,839
them on on their job and say all of

1361
00:54:11,839 --> 00:54:13,920
these were your requests last week or

1362
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,920
next last month, you know, can you tell

1363
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,000
us, you know, if there is any mismatch

1364
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,359
because I want them to feel obligated to

1365
00:54:21,359 --> 00:54:23,440
follow our rules. Um I wonder if there

1366
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,520
is a a process in ourou to say to them

1367
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,760
you have to justify because then it is

1368
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,839
an additional is an additional set of

1369
00:54:31,839 --> 00:54:33,839
eyes from their side.

1370
00:54:33,839 --> 00:54:37,349
>> I believe in theou m miss vickery is

1371
00:54:37,349 --> 00:54:37,359
» I believe in theou m miss vickery is

1372
00:54:37,359 --> 00:54:40,720
that the case or we can cont if if it's

1373
00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:42,559
not the case we can definitely review

1374
00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:45,119
what might what might work there.

1375
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:47,349
>> Yeah I can in terms of the ordinance and

1376
00:54:47,349 --> 00:54:47,359
» Yeah I can in terms of the ordinance and

1377
00:54:47,359 --> 00:54:50,000
what it requires I can speak to that. So

1378
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,839
under section C, sharing ALPR data, if

1379
00:54:53,839 --> 00:54:58,240
you look at section 1 I, um that sets

1380
00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:00,319
forth that the receiving governmental

1381
00:55:00,319 --> 00:55:02,720
entity shall establish, maintain, and

1382
00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:04,880
implement self- auditing procedures

1383
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,720
designed to monitor its compliance with

1384
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:08,960
the terms of theou.

1385
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,119
The receiving governmental entity shall

1386
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:13,200
document the results of such audits in

1387
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,839
an annual written report which shall be

1388
00:55:15,839 --> 00:55:17,599
made available to the police department

1389
00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:20,000
upon request and retained by the

1390
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,920
receiving governmental entity for no

1391
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,319
less than 5 years. The receiving

1392
00:55:24,319 --> 00:55:26,559
governmental entity shall properly and

1393
00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:29,200
in no event later than 5 days after the

1394
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,079
discovery provide a copy of any annual

1395
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:34,480
audit report which finds the material

1396
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,240
violation of the memorandum of

1397
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:38,559
understanding to the police department.

1398
00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:41,440
And then section J is also relevant and

1399
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,160
provides um I'll just sort of paraphrase

1400
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,200
this that it that the city at its own

1401
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,280
election can come in and audit at any

1402
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:50,400
time.

1403
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,150
>> Okay. Also, if I recall in here, it

1404
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:54,160
» Okay. Also, if I recall in here, it

1405
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,839
requires any breach or misuse to be

1406
00:55:57,839 --> 00:55:59,520
reported within 24 hours of the Salt

1407
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,119
Lake City Police Department.

1408
00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:03,270
>> So, if they catch some misuse, they have

1409
00:56:03,270 --> 00:56:03,280
» So, if they catch some misuse, they have

1410
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:04,079
to report it.

1411
00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:06,230
>> Is that it was 24 hours?

1412
00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:06,240
» Is that it was 24 hours?

1413
00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:07,910
>> I think I saw that somewhere. Yeah.

1414
00:56:07,910 --> 00:56:07,920
» I think I saw that somewhere. Yeah.

1415
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,230
>> Yeah, that's K. Section K.

1416
00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:10,240
» Yeah, that's K. Section K.

1417
00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:11,270
>> Okay. [clears throat] I think that's

1418
00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:11,280
» Okay. [clears throat] I think that's

1419
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,400
that that is encouraging to me. uh you

1420
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,160
know uh council member Petro, council

1421
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:17,680
member Carlson

1422
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,270
>> um this might be something where I need

1423
00:56:19,270 --> 00:56:19,280
» um this might be something where I need

1424
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:20,400
to come over and talk with you more

1425
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:21,760
because as we've been talking it occurs

1426
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,400
to me there's two different ways in

1427
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,799
which the license plate readers are

1428
00:56:26,799 --> 00:56:28,640
being used that are slightly different.

1429
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,160
So there's the DEA coordinating with you

1430
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,240
to find out if this person was in this

1431
00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:37,680
area doing this, which is a much longer

1432
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,280
term, much more premeditated, able to

1433
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,920
submit the case number. And then there's

1434
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,040
the emergent, we need to know where this

1435
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,200
car is heading because there we believe

1436
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,880
they have a abducted child

1437
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:51,589
>> mapping. Yeah.

1438
00:56:51,589 --> 00:56:51,599
» mapping. Yeah.

1439
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:54,309
>> And and we're collaborating and I'm not

1440
00:56:54,309 --> 00:56:54,319
» And and we're collaborating and I'm not

1441
00:56:54,319 --> 00:56:56,480
really sure of what the process looks

1442
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,960
like in each of those. I love the way

1443
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,880
we've been talking about these, but it

1444
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,640
feels to me like in the emergent

1445
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,040
situation, there's a different level of

1446
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,119
vulnerability versus the not. So, it

1447
00:57:07,119 --> 00:57:08,480
might not be the time to do it right

1448
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:09,839
now. I know we're trying to keep to a

1449
00:57:09,839 --> 00:57:11,680
schedule, but as we've been talking, it

1450
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,200
just occurred to me and and I was

1451
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,280
talking to Council Member Wharton about

1452
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,119
it. How do we in light is does the real

1453
00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:20,720
time crime center have something

1454
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,559
different that offers a level of

1455
00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:24,000
protection than maybe that more

1456
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,559
deliberative longerterm research-based

1457
00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:28,640
kind of use of this technology would

1458
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,640
have and and just making sure that the

1459
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,240
protections are there in all of those

1460
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:33,359
implementations.

1461
00:57:33,359 --> 00:57:35,109
>> I think the process would be fairly

1462
00:57:35,109 --> 00:57:35,119
» I think the process would be fairly

1463
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:38,480
similar uh again but we could definitely

1464
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,799
look to see on those you know emergent

1465
00:57:40,799 --> 00:57:42,160
issues if there's something that we

1466
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:43,520
could do for a double check.

1467
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,109
>> Thanks. Yeah. What what level of

1468
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:45,119
» Thanks. Yeah. What what level of

1469
00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:46,640
vulnerability you mean when it's

1470
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,440
something more, you know, urgent.

1471
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,150
>> So like if if if there's if if a child's

1472
00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:52,160
» So like if if if there's if if a child's

1473
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:53,599
been abducted, which is always the

1474
00:57:53,599 --> 00:57:55,839
everyone's example for why we need this.

1475
00:57:55,839 --> 00:57:58,480
Um that would be something like Leighton

1476
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,079
calling saying they're heading your way.

1477
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:01,760
We need access to your system to see if

1478
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,359
this license plate comes through. Right?

1479
00:58:03,359 --> 00:58:05,520
Like any other city could call.

1480
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:06,789
>> But they need to still have a case

1481
00:58:06,789 --> 00:58:06,799
» But they need to still have a case

1482
00:58:06,799 --> 00:58:07,440
number, don't they?

1483
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,109
>> Still need a case number, a crime tie.

1484
00:58:09,109 --> 00:58:09,119
» Still need a case number, a crime tie.

1485
00:58:09,119 --> 00:58:10,630
>> Would you have a case number at that

1486
00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:10,640
» Would you have a case number at that

1487
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,880
point if if if they're already in

1488
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,200
pursuit? If if if our police if police

1489
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,880
in a different jurisdiction

1490
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,190
>> happen on something, someone takes a kid

1491
00:58:19,190 --> 00:58:19,200
» happen on something, someone takes a kid

1492
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,599
and and leaves, there would be that

1493
00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:23,190
>> at a minimum there would be a dispatch

1494
00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:23,200
» at a minimum there would be a dispatch

1495
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,960
number. So a call for service, it would

1496
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,799
be tied to a call for service number and

1497
00:58:26,799 --> 00:58:28,960
then later if there's a a police report

1498
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,400
generated, it could be used that. But

1499
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:31,440
either way, I see

1500
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,829
>> whether it's a dispatch uh incident

1501
00:58:33,829 --> 00:58:33,839
» whether it's a dispatch uh incident

1502
00:58:33,839 --> 00:58:35,440
number or a case number, we could track

1503
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,119
it back. these those those really urgent

1504
00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:41,839
issues are the like only honestly

1505
00:58:41,839 --> 00:58:44,240
compelling things like these help our

1506
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,640
police officers know how to track things

1507
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,880
in real time. So that to me is the most

1508
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,880
compelling but it also feels like that's

1509
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,680
where it would be the most tenuous. You

1510
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,359
all are actively doing the work. You

1511
00:58:55,359 --> 00:58:57,200
don't have time to be an administrator

1512
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,839
while you're being a pursuer. So um you

1513
00:58:59,839 --> 00:59:01,520
know so just making sure that we don't

1514
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,079
drop balls in that and we can use the

1515
00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:05,599
power of this without compromising

1516
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:06,240
safety.

1517
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:07,589
>> They can always if they haven't

1518
00:59:07,589 --> 00:59:07,599
» They can always if they haven't

1519
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:09,280
generated a case number in their records

1520
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:10,799
management system they can always

1521
00:59:10,799 --> 00:59:12,640
provide the dispatch. There will always

1522
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,559
be an incident number from dispatch. So,

1523
00:59:14,559 --> 00:59:16,390
>> okay,

1524
00:59:16,390 --> 00:59:16,400
» okay,

1525
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:17,430
>> Carlson.

1526
00:59:17,430 --> 00:59:17,440
» Carlson.

1527
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,069
>> Um, I just want to echo uh my gratitude

1528
00:59:20,069 --> 00:59:20,079
» Um, I just want to echo uh my gratitude

1529
00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:22,400
to Council Member Petro for asking these

1530
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,720
um larger questions about data data

1531
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,319
privacy across all of the different

1532
00:59:26,319 --> 00:59:28,319
platforms that we use and how to ensure

1533
00:59:28,319 --> 00:59:30,240
that the data that we do collect

1534
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,920
regardless of the type of data that we

1535
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,160
collect is secure. Um I have faith in

1536
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:35,839
the police department to maintain that

1537
00:59:35,839 --> 00:59:38,079
security of data. Multinational

1538
00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:40,799
corporations not so much. So, I want to

1539
00:59:40,799 --> 00:59:42,799
ensure that we are well protected in

1540
00:59:42,799 --> 00:59:46,160
that regard. Um I feel like in uh you

1541
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:47,839
know our role as a council and policy

1542
00:59:47,839 --> 00:59:50,319
makers it's about you know surfacing all

1543
00:59:50,319 --> 00:59:52,319
angles of an argument and thinking about

1544
00:59:52,319 --> 00:59:54,720
how to how to find the best way forward

1545
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,280
and so you know we have I frame this

1546
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,000
conversation as uh both a public safety

1547
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,079
concern but also could be a concern

1548
01:00:02,079 --> 01:00:04,559
about privacy and so I wanted to give

1549
01:00:04,559 --> 01:00:07,359
you chief an opportunity to talk about

1550
01:00:07,359 --> 01:00:09,280
what might be the benefits from a public

1551
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,000
safety perspective of this technology.

1552
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,520
Well, first I would just like to talk

1553
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,760
about the privacy, the civil liberties

1554
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,280
uh concern. We we want to have

1555
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,839
technology to do our jobs, but that has

1556
01:00:21,839 --> 01:00:24,079
to be something that the public at some

1557
01:00:24,079 --> 01:00:26,000
level trusts and we have to make it

1558
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,440
sustainable. So, I just want to put on

1559
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,000
the record that the privacy, the civil

1560
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,240
liberties and protections are extremely

1561
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:33,520
important to us in the police department

1562
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:34,960
and we're willing, as I've said in the

1563
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,480
past publicly, we're willing to engage

1564
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,160
with individuals who are concerned and

1565
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,319
and hear them out and try to learn. As I

1566
01:00:40,319 --> 01:00:42,880
mentioned earlier, we've had the ACLU in

1567
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,960
a couple times, and as I've said also on

1568
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,040
record, they they don't always agree. We

1569
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,040
don't always agree on on issues, but I

1570
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:50,480
appreciate that they're an organization

1571
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:51,839
that's willing to come in and listen,

1572
01:00:51,839 --> 01:00:53,119
and they've been into the Real Time

1573
01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:54,240
Crime Center, and we've talked to

1574
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:59,359
license plate readers. Um the but the

1575
01:00:59,359 --> 01:01:01,200
the the example that I used earlier

1576
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,119
today is you know when when cars were

1577
01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:07,359
invented this you know if police

1578
01:01:07,359 --> 01:01:08,880
officers stayed on horses and didn't

1579
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,520
adapt to the new technology the police

1580
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,079
car we would be behind the curve and and

1581
01:01:14,079 --> 01:01:16,880
I think as adop technologies are adopted

1582
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,359
societal you know in society at some

1583
01:01:19,359 --> 01:01:21,359
level we we would like to be able to use

1584
01:01:21,359 --> 01:01:22,960
those technologies and what we're

1585
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,880
finding and I can use a couple examples

1586
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,440
we we had Uh it was this was this was

1587
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,920
publicly communicated so I can share it.

1588
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:31,839
But back earlier this year we had a

1589
01:01:31,839 --> 01:01:34,240
triple homicide in Wayne County. Uh this

1590
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,319
an individual went on a killing spree

1591
01:01:36,319 --> 01:01:38,160
down there and then left the state. And

1592
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:39,760
it was license plate readers that

1593
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,599
identified where the individual was and

1594
01:01:41,599 --> 01:01:43,920
he was over in Colorado within a and

1595
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,640
within a tw a short 12 hours. The triple

1596
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,440
homicide was was uh the individual was

1597
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,680
arrested and and we prevented

1598
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,599
potentially additional murders in in

1599
01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:56,319
that case. So this is the type of of

1600
01:01:56,319 --> 01:01:58,079
ways that we're using the technology. I

1601
01:01:58,079 --> 01:02:00,720
could share other cases. Um uh there was

1602
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,400
an individual earlier this year who was

1603
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,520
coming from a different state. Uh had

1604
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,040
been making some threats and it was a

1605
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:08,880
license plate reader that indicated yes

1606
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,480
actually they're broaching they're

1607
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,240
coming into our state and we were able

1608
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:13,839
to make an intervention and deal with

1609
01:02:13,839 --> 01:02:16,000
that issue. So, this goes on on a

1610
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:20,400
regular basis and um again uh we we want

1611
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,400
to use this technology responsibly

1612
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,400
because we want to prevent victimization

1613
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,520
in in our cities. And so, uh we we

1614
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,559
appreciate the council for being willing

1615
01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:34,000
to dialogue and and listen and and and

1616
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,160
uh be open to the uses of these

1617
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,319
technologies and we want to we want to

1618
01:02:38,319 --> 01:02:42,549
we want to use them appropriately.

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01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:45,440
» Any other thoughts?

1620
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,799
Just sorry one more thing. I just want

1621
01:02:48,799 --> 01:02:53,520
to thank you for um for having or other

1622
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,760
organizations come in like ACLU and look

1623
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,119
at this um because I mean this is an

1624
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:03,520
ordinance that or this this whole area

1625
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,240
um of LPR's

1626
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,240
is really difficult for me and I have a

1627
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:12,400
lot of conflict as uh as just a resident

1628
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,680
as a as an attorney as someone who

1629
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,200
practiced criminal defense for a little

1630
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,760
while like I I really have a lot of

1631
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:23,200
conflicts internally with this, but I

1632
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:27,280
also um recognize the you know the

1633
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,039
examples that you've given and countless

1634
01:03:29,039 --> 01:03:31,599
others of the public safety aspect of

1635
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:33,280
this. And so I really am trying to

1636
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,480
balance all of that and having groups

1637
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,880
that I'm sure

1638
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,960
it's, you know, difficult and there are

1639
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,520
probably some officers that feel

1640
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,039
uncomfortable having some of these

1641
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:47,200
organizations come and do those checks,

1642
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,920
but I think it it to me means a lot and

1643
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,839
I think to the community means a lot

1644
01:03:51,839 --> 01:03:54,319
because at the end of the day, we've got

1645
01:03:54,319 --> 01:03:57,280
a lot of these procedures and controls

1646
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,839
in place. Um, and I think we've done the

1647
01:03:59,839 --> 01:04:02,160
most the best that we can, but there is

1648
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,680
an element of of like judgment and

1649
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:06,240
trust.

1650
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:07,190
>> There is,

1651
01:04:07,190 --> 01:04:07,200
» There is,

1652
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:08,549
>> you know, these are still humans that

1653
01:04:08,549 --> 01:04:08,559
» you know, these are still humans that

1654
01:04:08,559 --> 01:04:11,680
are operating this. There are still, it

1655
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:12,880
sounds like we've tried to think of

1656
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,359
every way to to narrow it that we can,

1657
01:04:15,359 --> 01:04:19,119
but you know, at the end of the it's

1658
01:04:19,119 --> 01:04:21,440
just like what police officers do every

1659
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,200
day in their job. there is an element of

1660
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,400
trust there that they are

1661
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,160
um the good guys and they're using this

1662
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:32,799
information for good and um I think

1663
01:04:32,799 --> 01:04:34,720
have in a time where people have a lot

1664
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,760
of distrust in a lot of organizations

1665
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,240
not not just government but many

1666
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:41,760
organizations

1667
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,160
um and that includes public safety being

1668
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,280
able to say that we

1669
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,000
um have other organizations that come in

1670
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,160
and look at this maybe we don't agree

1671
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:53,359
with them. Maybe they make

1672
01:04:53,359 --> 01:04:55,039
recommendations and we don't adopt all

1673
01:04:55,039 --> 01:04:57,680
of them, but to me it adds a lot of

1674
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,920
credibility to what we're doing. And so

1675
01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:01,760
I really appreciate that piece of the

1676
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,920
program. And I I hope that never

1677
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:04,640
changes.

1678
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:05,029
>> Okay.

1679
01:05:05,029 --> 01:05:05,039
» Okay.

1680
01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:05,430
>> Thanks.

1681
01:05:05,430 --> 01:05:05,440
» Thanks.

1682
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,430
>> We're committed to hearing all

1683
01:05:07,430 --> 01:05:07,440
» We're committed to hearing all

1684
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,440
perspectives and and doing our best to

1685
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,200
to find that balance like I know you're

1686
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:12,960
all seeking as well.

1687
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:14,390
>> Thank you, Chief. Thank you, staff, for

1688
01:05:14,390 --> 01:05:14,400
» Thank you, Chief. Thank you, staff, for

1689
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:15,760
working on this. This is to me an

1690
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:19,599
ordinance that u [clears throat] says uh

1691
01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:22,960
as a city where our values are and how

1692
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,520
we want to use the tools correctly and

1693
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:31,039
how we don't want them to be used. Um so

1694
01:05:31,039 --> 01:05:34,960
I think to me is is uh is a powerful uh

1695
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,200
tool uh to put in an ordinance. We could

1696
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,599
have [clears throat] left it as a policy

1697
01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:42,559
for the department uh to to come up uh

1698
01:05:42,559 --> 01:05:45,119
but uh knowing the value of these tools

1699
01:05:45,119 --> 01:05:46,960
but at the same time knowing the risks

1700
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,640
of these tools uh we feel very strongly

1701
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:54,240
about putting this on the code um and I

1702
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,079
uh I know that many of us have expressed

1703
01:05:56,079 --> 01:05:58,480
at some point or another uh that we

1704
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,799
don't want to see misuse of these tools.

1705
01:06:00,799 --> 01:06:04,000
We don't want that to be our tools, what

1706
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,280
our taxpayers are uh paying to be used

1707
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,160
in the wrong uh by the wrong um

1708
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,200
purposes. So I am uh I'm excited that

1709
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:14,880
this ordinance is in front of us finally

1710
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,240
and looking forward to u other data

1711
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,520
privacy issues within uh the city. So

1712
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,039
thank you for the presentation. Thank

1713
01:06:23,039 --> 01:06:24,400
you for the time. I appreciate your

1714
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:25,200
time, Chief.

1715
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:29,510
>> Thank you. Appreciate it.

1716
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,280
Thank you, Hannah, too, since I

1717
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,559
mentioned everybody as well. Um,

1718
01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:38,240
moving on to uh item number four, an

1719
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,559
ordinance for the Northwest Community

1720
01:06:40,559 --> 01:06:42,079
Plan. We're going to keep Michael

1721
01:06:42,079 --> 01:06:43,920
Sanders, council policy analyst, the

1722
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:47,520
table. Uh, we're going to welcome um I

1723
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,599
only have Kelsey Linquist, planning

1724
01:06:49,599 --> 01:06:53,520
manager, on my uh on my uh on my list,

1725
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,079
but yes, welcome all of you.

1726
01:06:56,079 --> 01:06:58,950
>> Okay. Thank you, chair. So, the purpose

1727
01:06:58,950 --> 01:06:58,960
» Okay. Thank you, chair. So, the purpose

1728
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:00,559
of this briefing is to go over a

1729
01:07:00,559 --> 01:07:02,880
proposal to update a community plan for

1730
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,960
the Northwest community area, which

1731
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,359
includes Rose Park, Fair Park, Jordan

1732
01:07:07,359 --> 01:07:10,480
Meadows, Poplar Grove, and West Point.

1733
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,640
The plan also includes the North the

1734
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,960
North Temple Station area plans for the

1735
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,440
four track stations in the plan area.

1736
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,839
This plan will replace the Northwest

1737
01:07:19,839 --> 01:07:21,839
master plan, the North Temple Boulevard

1738
01:07:21,839 --> 01:07:24,720
plan, and the Rose Park small area plan.

1739
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,799
During the February 25th, [music] 2026

1740
01:07:26,799 --> 01:07:28,079
planning commission meeting, the

1741
01:07:28,079 --> 01:07:29,920
commission forwarded a positive

1742
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:31,520
recommendation to the council. And with

1743
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,599
that, I'll pass it to the planning

1744
01:07:33,599 --> 01:07:35,039
department.

1745
01:07:35,039 --> 01:07:36,950
>> Thank you, Michael.

1746
01:07:36,950 --> 01:07:36,960
» Thank you, Michael.

1747
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,039
Good afternoon and thank you for the

1748
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:40,640
opportunity to present the draft

1749
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,799
northwest community plan. My name is

1750
01:07:42,799 --> 01:07:45,280
Kelsey. I have two members of my team

1751
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,240
with me today, Olivia Specco and Alicia

1752
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,119
Cely. Cassie Younger, one of the project

1753
01:07:51,119 --> 01:07:53,440
managers, is out of town. All three

1754
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,119
members of the team were critical in the

1755
01:07:55,119 --> 01:07:57,039
update process.

1756
01:07:57,039 --> 01:07:59,520
Um, we do have a lengthy presentation,

1757
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,520
but we will make it in time and all

1758
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,440
three of us will be presenting today.

1759
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,440
So, I will now turn the time over to

1760
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:09,430
Olivia to get us started.

1761
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,920
Thank you. If I could get the next slide

1762
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,200
here. Um, okay. So, first to give a

1763
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,839
quick overview, the Northwest community

1764
01:08:17,839 --> 01:08:20,640
plan builds on the city's overall vision

1765
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,440
established in Plan Salt Lake while

1766
01:08:23,440 --> 01:08:25,839
recognizing that the Northwest has its

1767
01:08:25,839 --> 01:08:28,880
own unique opportunities and challenges.

1768
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,839
The purpose of this plan is to establish

1769
01:08:31,839 --> 01:08:34,400
a clear vision for the community,

1770
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,440
identify values and concerned uh

1771
01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:39,679
concerns expressed by the public during

1772
01:08:39,679 --> 01:08:42,719
engagement, um create a framework for

1773
01:08:42,719 --> 01:08:45,440
implementation, and define measurable

1774
01:08:45,440 --> 01:08:47,600
targets that allow us to track our

1775
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:52,390
progress through 2040.

1776
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,679
All right, next slide.

1777
01:08:55,679 --> 01:08:57,600
Throughout the community engagement and

1778
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,679
planning commission process, comments

1779
01:08:59,679 --> 01:09:01,279
were provided concerning the

1780
01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:03,279
relationship between the North Point

1781
01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:06,799
small area plan adopted in 2023 and the

1782
01:09:06,799 --> 01:09:09,920
Northwest community plan. Yes, on

1783
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,640
record, North Point is part of or within

1784
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,880
the boundaries of the Northwest plan.

1785
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,199
Nevertheless, the small area plans,

1786
01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:20,239
policies, development standards, and the

1787
01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:22,319
future land use map will take precedence

1788
01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:23,600
for development in [clears throat] that

1789
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,120
community.

1790
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,759
There are however targets, policies and

1791
01:09:27,759 --> 01:09:29,759
initiatives in the Northwest plan that

1792
01:09:29,759 --> 01:09:33,520
address riparian areas, air quality,

1793
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,679
natural environment, public lands,

1794
01:09:35,679 --> 01:09:37,679
trails, and water conservation that are

1795
01:09:37,679 --> 01:09:39,520
applicable to all of the Northwest

1796
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,319
community and that includes North Point.

1797
01:09:42,319 --> 01:09:46,149
Next slide.

1798
01:09:46,159 --> 01:09:48,880
Okay, so this process began with an

1799
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,440
existing conditions analysis so we could

1800
01:09:51,440 --> 01:09:53,600
get a better understanding of today's

1801
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,159
Northwest community. Uh some of the

1802
01:09:56,159 --> 01:09:58,800
highlights um we found in ways that

1803
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,120
Northwest differs from the rest of the

1804
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:05,440
city include that the area has a larger

1805
01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:07,679
share of families with children and

1806
01:10:07,679 --> 01:10:11,120
larger households. The area also has a

1807
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:14,320
slightly lower medium median income

1808
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:17,280
household compared to citywide and

1809
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:21,440
approximately 63% of residents identify

1810
01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:23,920
as part of a racial or ethnic minority

1811
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,400
group in this area compared with about

1812
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:31,199
35% citywide. Next slide.

1813
01:10:31,199 --> 01:10:34,320
Thank you. Um, public engagement was a

1814
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,400
huge part of developing this plan.

1815
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,480
During the initial phase in spring of

1816
01:10:38,480 --> 01:10:40,960
last year, staff attended nine community

1817
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,600
events, conducted six stakeholder

1818
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,159
interviews, and received more than 140

1819
01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:48,159
survey responses.

1820
01:10:48,159 --> 01:10:50,400
Um, what we heard, some of the things we

1821
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,640
heard over and over is that residents

1822
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,520
expressed a desire for more family-sized

1823
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:59,199
housing, safer parks and trails, better

1824
01:10:59,199 --> 01:11:01,520
transit options, protection against

1825
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,080
displacement, and continued support for

1826
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,199
the neighborhood's cultural diversity.

1827
01:11:07,199 --> 01:11:09,280
After preparing the draft plan, we

1828
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,679
returned to the community um through

1829
01:11:11,679 --> 01:11:13,360
additional outreach at neighborhood

1830
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,080
events, community organizations, and

1831
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,080
public meetings to gather feedback on

1832
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:23,510
our draft plan. Next slide.

1833
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:27,120
Okay, so this plan is organized into 14

1834
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,280
chapters which align with plan Salt

1835
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,880
Lake. Each includes a guiding principle,

1836
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,040
targets for the year 2040, and

1837
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,600
initiatives to get us there. Um, in

1838
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,840
addition to these chapters, the plan

1839
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,400
contains a station area plan for our

1840
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,520
fixed rail stations, a future land use

1841
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,080
plan, and an implementation matrix. And

1842
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,560
we will go over each of these today.

1843
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:54,630
Next slide.

1844
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,040
All right. The Northwest Community Plan

1845
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,040
is shaped and structured to support the

1846
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,920
overarching vision established by Plan

1847
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,400
Salt Lake by utilizing the plan's 14

1848
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,280
adopted guiding principles. This plan

1849
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,520
applies to the same structure, including

1850
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,280
measurable targets, achievable

1851
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,600
initiatives, and identifies existing and

1852
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,320
supported city policies.

1853
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,159
The following slides will mostly cover

1854
01:12:18,159 --> 01:12:20,080
two targets and their associated

1855
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,719
initiatives. Please note some guiding

1856
01:12:22,719 --> 01:12:25,440
principles have many more targets and

1857
01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:27,280
initiatives all of which are detailed in

1858
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:31,600
the draft plan online. Next slide.

1859
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:32,560
All right. We'll start with

1860
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:36,000
neighborhoods. The guiding principle is

1861
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,000
neighborhoods that provide a safe

1862
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,000
environment opportunity for social

1863
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,159
interaction and services needed for the

1864
01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:45,120
well-being of the community therein.

1865
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,120
The identified targets and associated

1866
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,199
initiatives include increased public

1867
01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:51,679
safety by supporting the city's public

1868
01:12:51,679 --> 01:12:54,719
safety plan conduct and conducting an

1869
01:12:54,719 --> 01:12:57,199
audit of lighting in parks, alleys, and

1870
01:12:57,199 --> 01:13:00,239
hightra corridors and prioritizing

1871
01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:02,000
improving lighting in areas with

1872
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,120
greatest public safety concerns.

1873
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,520
The second target is balance per capita

1874
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,679
investment in public infrastructure and

1875
01:13:09,679 --> 01:13:14,000
services compared to citywide averages

1876
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,560
through conducting a capital improvement

1877
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equity analysis that can help guide the

1878
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allocation of taxpayer dollars for

1879
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:28,229
maximum community benefit. Next slide.

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growth. Uh the guiding principle for

1881
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:33,920
growth is growing responsibly while

1882
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:35,679
providing people with choices about

1883
01:13:35,679 --> 01:13:37,440
where they live, how they live, and how

1884
01:13:37,440 --> 01:13:40,719
they get around. The identified targets

1885
01:13:40,719 --> 01:13:43,760
and associated initiatives include

1886
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,760
increase the number of dwelling units

1887
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,239
that provide three plus bedrooms by

1888
01:13:48,239 --> 01:13:50,400
modifying zoning regulations to increase

1889
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,320
a broad mix of housing types,

1890
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,960
specifically those larger units that are

1891
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,840
available both for rent or purchase.

1892
01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,760
encourage infill sites that support

1893
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,080
mixeduse development and support

1894
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,400
mixeduse zoning along corridors. We'll

1895
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,159
talk more about that with a future land

1896
01:14:06,159 --> 01:14:09,120
use map. The second target is to

1897
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,199
increase the total land area that can be

1898
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used for mixeduse development outside

1899
01:14:12,741 --> 01:14:15,040
[clears throat] of the power district.

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01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,600
Um to ensure that the zoning near the

1901
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,080
power district permits a diverse mix of

1902
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,440
housing, retail and open space in antip

1903
01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:26,640
in anticipation of population growth and

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01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,120
a high volume of daily users. Next

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01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,390
slide.

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01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,400
for the housing chapter. Uh the guiding

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01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,640
principle for this chapter is access to

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01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,880
a wide variety of housing types for all

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01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,800
income levels throughout the city,

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01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,560
providing the basic human need for

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safety and responding to changing

1912
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demographics. Uh the only target

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01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,040
identified in this chapter um is to

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01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:50,880
increase the diversity of housing types

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01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,480
for all income levels throughout the

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01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:55,280
city. Um and proposed initiatives um to

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01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:56,719
accomplish that target include

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01:14:56,719 --> 01:14:58,400
supporting policies that the city's

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01:14:58,400 --> 01:14:59,920
already adopted such as thriving in

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01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:02,640
place and housing SLC as well as

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01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,120
considering requiring um zoning

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01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,000
incentives for larger developers to

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01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:09,760
provide more family-friendly housing not

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01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,679
only in the number of bedrooms provided

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but also in design elements and

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01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,520
amenities provided on site and then

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01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,600
removing zoning barriers um and

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01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,679
streamlining the permitting process for

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01:15:19,679 --> 01:15:25,270
infill housing development. Next slide.

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For the transportation and mobility

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chapter, the guiding principle is a

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transportation and mobility network that

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01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,000
is safe, equitable, reliable,

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01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,560
affordable, and sustainable, providing

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01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,719
real choices and connecting people with

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01:15:38,719 --> 01:15:41,440
places. Um, the first target we want to

1937
01:15:41,440 --> 01:15:43,199
highlight here is to increase the

1938
01:15:43,199 --> 01:15:45,520
percentage of dwelling units within a

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01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,480
quarter mile of a bus, transit stop, or

1940
01:15:48,480 --> 01:15:52,320
high comfort bike facility. Um and the

1941
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:54,320
initiatives here are primarily to

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01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,159
increase density along existing transit

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01:15:56,159 --> 01:15:58,719
routes and then once new routes or

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01:15:58,719 --> 01:16:00,400
transit amenities are added to

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01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,280
prioritize transit oriented development

1946
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,840
um and also per performing analysis and

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01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:07,760
collaboration and community engagement

1948
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,679
to manage parking needs uh which was

1949
01:16:09,679 --> 01:16:11,679
something that we heard a lot about um

1950
01:16:11,679 --> 01:16:14,239
in our outreach. The second target we

1951
01:16:14,239 --> 01:16:16,000
want to highlight uh for this chapter is

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01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,320
to increase the percentage of funding to

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01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,000
improve neighborhood connections and

1954
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,920
general maintenance. Um the first

1955
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:23,920
initiative to support this is to support

1956
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:25,920
the implementation of recommendations

1957
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:29,280
from the SLC West connection study uh

1958
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,159
which is currently ongoing and also to

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01:16:32,159 --> 01:16:33,840
prioritize connecting the Jordan River

1960
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,719
Parkway Trail to the Folsam Trail. Next

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01:16:36,719 --> 01:16:39,440
slide.

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01:16:39,440 --> 01:16:42,239
Air quality. Um the guiding principle

1963
01:16:42,239 --> 01:16:44,560
for this chapter is air that is healthy

1964
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,960
and clean. Um the target that we want to

1965
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,520
highlight here is to increase the number

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01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,000
of actions to address the harmful impact

1967
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,560
of existing polluters. We know this is a

1968
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:56,640
particular concern in on the west side

1969
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:58,800
and in this community and something we

1970
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,640
had a lot of conversations about. Um so

1971
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,880
the initiatives

1972
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,520
um in this regard are to increase the

1973
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:07,199
tree canopy to help filter out

1974
01:17:07,199 --> 01:17:09,440
pollutants, reduce the industrial and

1975
01:17:09,440 --> 01:17:11,280
manufacturing uses in the area to

1976
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,199
mitigate those impacts and then

1977
01:17:13,199 --> 01:17:15,360
implement increased land use buffers

1978
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,400
along um highways, major roadways and

1979
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:22,320
other um heavy polluters and sensitive

1980
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,960
land uses. Um sensitive land uses really

1981
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:26,480
being anywhere where people are

1982
01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:32,070
breathing. Uh next slide.

1983
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,320
Okay, thank you. Um, our guiding

1984
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,719
principle for the natural environment is

1985
01:17:36,719 --> 01:17:39,040
to minimize our impact on the natural

1986
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,760
environment. Uh, one of our targets is

1987
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,560
to increase the urban tree canopy.

1988
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,120
Initiatives for this include identifying

1989
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:48,880
streets that could support

1990
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,920
rellandscaping of medians to increase

1991
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:55,040
tree canopy and educate residents on the

1992
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,760
costs of tree irrigation and offer

1993
01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,760
information on species that are low

1994
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:03,199
water use. Another target for this um

1995
01:18:03,199 --> 01:18:05,679
for this chapter is to promote community

1996
01:18:05,679 --> 01:18:07,840
investment in the Jordan River Parkway

1997
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,640
Trail and the Folsam Trail. Um,

1998
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,960
initiatives include connect the Jordan

1999
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,600
River Parkway Trail to the Folsam Trail

2000
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,080
and downtown beautifification and

2001
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,320
connectivity efforts, formerly known as

2002
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:23,280
the Green Loop, um, and support the

2003
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,080
initiative to daylight a portion of City

2004
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:30,640
Creek along Folsam Trail. Next slide.

2005
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,640
Okay. [snorts] For parks and recreation,

2006
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,360
our guiding principle is to protect the

2007
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,679
natural environment while providing

2008
01:18:37,679 --> 01:18:40,320
access and opportunities to recreate and

2009
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:44,000
enjoy nature. One of our targets is

2010
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,320
increase public safety and comfort for

2011
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,280
all users within park spaces so that all

2012
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,199
visitors feel safe and comfortable

2013
01:18:51,199 --> 01:18:53,679
regardless of age, gender, um or

2014
01:18:53,679 --> 01:18:55,520
ability. This is something we heard over

2015
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,480
and over again in public outreach. Um

2016
01:18:58,480 --> 01:19:02,000
our um implementation for this is to

2017
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,159
implement bilingual and universal

2018
01:19:04,159 --> 01:19:06,640
wayfinding signage along and towards the

2019
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,199
Jordan River Trail, Fulsome Trail, and

2020
01:19:09,199 --> 01:19:13,040
nearby parks and add types of uses and

2021
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:14,880
activities to our parks that can

2022
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,760
encourage year-round activity. Um and I

2023
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:19,920
know Kelsey mentioned this before, but

2024
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,920
uh we these are only some of the

2025
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:23,840
initiatives associated with these

2026
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:25,679
targets. There are quite a few in the

2027
01:19:25,679 --> 01:19:29,760
plan. Um, another target is to expand

2028
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,600
the Jordan River Trail to the North

2029
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,159
Point area, specifically north of Center

2030
01:19:34,159 --> 01:19:37,040
Street. Um, initiatives include

2031
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,520
encouraging active uses for development

2032
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,000
along trails and coordinating with

2033
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:43,920
private property owners abuing the

2034
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,239
Jordan River and other sensitive

2035
01:19:46,239 --> 01:19:49,120
riparian areas to extend the Jordan

2036
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,520
River Parkway and preserve the land.

2037
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:55,030
Next slide.

2038
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,440
beautiful city. Our guiding principle

2039
01:19:57,440 --> 01:19:59,840
for this chapter is a beautiful city

2040
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:02,719
that is people focused. Um, one of our

2041
01:20:02,719 --> 01:20:05,199
targets is to increase efforts to

2042
01:20:05,199 --> 01:20:07,120
activate the Jordan River and Folsam

2043
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:10,560
Trail. initiatives include include

2044
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,800
activation requirements for development

2045
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:14,960
near the Jordan River and along Fulsome

2046
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,440
Trail requiring elements such as

2047
01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:20,480
riverfacing windows and doors, riparian

2048
01:20:20,480 --> 01:20:22,480
corridor friendly landscaping and

2049
01:20:22,480 --> 01:20:26,239
outdoor amenities. Another initiative is

2050
01:20:26,239 --> 01:20:28,640
identify key locations along the Jordan

2051
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,120
River and Folsam Trail where small-cale

2052
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,360
mixeduse zoning could help promote

2053
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,040
placemaking.

2054
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,560
Um, another target in this chapter is to

2055
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:40,640
establish visually attractive and

2056
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:42,560
distinct gateways into the Northwest

2057
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,040
community. This can be done by

2058
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:46,800
identifying streets that can be

2059
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,960
designated as gateways and cultural

2060
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,440
corridors uh where art and culture

2061
01:20:51,440 --> 01:20:53,760
efforts are focused. Work with city

2062
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:55,600
departments to apply rights of way

2063
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,120
standards that would support the

2064
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:59,760
creation of city gateways and explore

2065
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,159
incorporating art features into city

2066
01:21:02,159 --> 01:21:06,880
funded projects. Next slide.

2067
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:08,800
For preservation, the guiding principle

2068
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,040
is maintaining places that provide a

2069
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:12,400
foundation for the Northwest

2070
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,840
neighborhood to affirm our past. Um, as

2071
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,320
far as the 2040 targets, first is to

2072
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:20,080
increase the number of properties listed

2073
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:21,920
on the National Register of Historic

2074
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,239
Places through identifying priority

2075
01:21:24,239 --> 01:21:27,120
areas for uh surveys and also supporting

2076
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,600
neighborhood initiatives to create new

2077
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,080
local historic districts or um add

2078
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:33,600
places to the National Register of

2079
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,760
Historic Places. And then the second

2080
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,560
target uh for preservation is to ensure

2081
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,400
city-owned historic resources are

2082
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,440
actively maintained and preserved uh

2083
01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:45,440
through providing access to city- funded

2084
01:21:45,440 --> 01:21:48,320
workshops and education regarding um the

2085
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,400
city's building preservation incentives

2086
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,880
to make sure that people are aware of

2087
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,760
these uh programs and understand how to

2088
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:57,280
take advantage of them for eligible

2089
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,360
properties. um and also supporting

2090
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,440
partnerships for the successful adaptive

2091
01:22:01,440 --> 01:22:03,920
reuse of the Fisher Fiser mansion which

2092
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,000
was identified by the community as an

2093
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:10,880
important cultural asset. Next slide.

2094
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,120
For arts and culture, the guiding

2095
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:15,440
principle is vibrant, diverse, and

2096
01:22:15,440 --> 01:22:17,280
accessible artistic and cultural

2097
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,120
resources that showcase the community's

2098
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,040
long-standing commitment to a strong

2099
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:24,480
creative culture. The first target is to

2100
01:22:24,480 --> 01:22:26,320
increase the total number of cultural

2101
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,239
community events celebrating the

2102
01:22:28,239 --> 01:22:30,239
diversity in the Northwest neighborhood.

2103
01:22:30,239 --> 01:22:31,679
Um, this is something that Northwest

2104
01:22:31,679 --> 01:22:33,920
residents are really proud of. Um, and

2105
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:35,520
so initiatives that go along with this

2106
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:37,120
are to collaborate with neighborhood

2107
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:38,719
stakeholders to bring more cultural

2108
01:22:38,719 --> 01:22:40,560
events to the neighborhood. Um, for

2109
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,400
example, exploring bringing a farmers

2110
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:43,760
market to the neighborhood and then

2111
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,920
continuing to support the fairgrounds as

2112
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,000
a year-round entertainment destination.

2113
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,080
Um, and the second target for arts and

2114
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,719
culture is to increase public art in the

2115
01:22:52,719 --> 01:22:55,520
Northwest community. Um, which can be

2116
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,360
supported by identifying a pathway to

2117
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,199
revive a youth arts program, working

2118
01:22:59,199 --> 01:23:03,280
with the arts council to um to support

2119
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:06,400
the project support grants and then

2120
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,400
increasing opportunities to access arts

2121
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,639
and culture by um easing land use

2122
01:23:10,639 --> 01:23:12,800
regulation and where those are allowed.

2123
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,360
Next slide.

2124
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,600
Okay. The guiding principle for the

2125
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,320
equity chapter is a welcoming community

2126
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:22,239
that celebrates the diversity of the

2127
01:23:22,239 --> 01:23:24,159
Northwest and ensures access to

2128
01:23:24,159 --> 01:23:27,760
amenities for all residents. Um, and two

2129
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:29,360
really important themes that stood out

2130
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:30,960
here that aren't talked about in other

2131
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,600
chapters um are access to food and

2132
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:36,239
access to medical care. So, the first

2133
01:23:36,239 --> 01:23:38,080
target in this chapter is to improve

2134
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,320
access to healthy, fresh, and affordable

2135
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,159
food within the community. Um the

2136
01:23:42,159 --> 01:23:43,920
initiatives include partnering with

2137
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:45,760
nonprofit organizations that are already

2138
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,440
working in the area. Wasach community

2139
01:23:47,440 --> 01:23:50,000
gardens is one um to improve fresh fresh

2140
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:53,199
food access. Support um improving the

2141
01:23:53,199 --> 01:23:55,040
existing grocery stores available in the

2142
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,360
area. And then again um exploring

2143
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:58,960
bringing a local farmers market to the

2144
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,120
Northwest, especially prioritizing one

2145
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:03,440
that accepts SNAP and other subsidies

2146
01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:06,159
that benefit low-income families. Um and

2147
01:24:06,159 --> 01:24:08,400
second, ensuring that zoning supports

2148
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,520
new medical facilities. um by supporting

2149
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,600
programs to improve access to health

2150
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,239
care for uninsured individuals um which

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is a high proportion of residents in the

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Northwest compared to other Salt Lake

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01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,760
City communities and also include

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01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:25,760
consider including u medical care

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01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,560
facilities in city funded projects and

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01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:32,400
supporting models for popup or mobile um

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01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,040
medical clinics and care that can bring

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01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,600
care directly to Northwest residents.

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Next slide.

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All right. Economy. Um, our guiding

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01:24:44,719 --> 01:24:47,760
principle for the economy is a local

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01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,960
economy that fosters entrepreneurship,

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01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,040
supports small businesses, and promotes

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01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:54,480
lively neighborhood commercial

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01:24:54,480 --> 01:24:58,159
corridors. Um, our first target is adopt

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01:24:58,159 --> 01:25:00,480
zoning policies that promote the growth

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01:25:00,480 --> 01:25:03,199
of small-scale neighborhood retail. Our

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01:25:03,199 --> 01:25:05,840
initiatives here are allow previous

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01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,000
commercial buildings in residential zone

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01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,400
neighborhoods to reestablish commercial

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01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:13,120
and retail use, ensure zoning

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01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,520
regulations result in pedestrian

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01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,239
friendly spaces and amenities, and

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01:25:18,239 --> 01:25:20,639
explore opportunities for accessory

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01:25:20,639 --> 01:25:23,840
commercial units. Um, our second target

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01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,320
is provide financial subsidies for

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01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,320
businesses that can fill gaps in

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01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:30,880
existing retail offerings

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01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:32,719
uh with initiatives that include

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01:25:32,719 --> 01:25:34,639
consider the creation of a special

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01:25:34,639 --> 01:25:36,800
assessment area in the North Temple

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01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:38,960
district to finance infrastructure

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01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:40,960
improvements and provide ongoing

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01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,840
services and support the community

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01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,880
reinvestment agency in operating a a

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01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,679
retail subleasasing program.

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01:25:49,679 --> 01:25:53,350
Next slide.

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government. Our guiding principle here

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01:25:55,679 --> 01:25:58,080
is a local government that is

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01:25:58,080 --> 01:25:59,840
collaborative, responsive, and

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01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:03,280
equitable. Um, our first target is

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01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:04,880
increase the number of residents

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01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,600
participating in the government process.

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01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,239
Um, our initiatives are utilize online

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01:26:10,239 --> 01:26:13,360
engagement tools, translate public

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01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:16,639
facing materials, consider modifying the

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01:26:16,639 --> 01:26:19,040
timing, location, and types of public

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01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:21,920
meetings that seek public input, and

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01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,639
increase access to public employees and

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01:26:24,639 --> 01:26:27,040
elected officials by more participation

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01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,280
in local events.

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And our second target is ensure more

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01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:34,320
equitable responses to zoning

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01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:37,040
enforcement and city maintenance. Um,

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01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:40,080
our initiatives are support an equitable

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01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,639
percentage of capital fund spending in

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01:26:42,639 --> 01:26:45,120
underserved or historically excluded

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01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:48,560
areas and track zoning enforcement to

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01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:51,600
ensure it is equitable across the city.

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01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:55,270
Next slide.

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01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:58,719
Okay. Um, this is water smart Utah. Our

2212
01:26:58,719 --> 01:27:01,760
guiding principle is reduce water use in

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01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,639
order to ensure sustainable water levels

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01:27:04,639 --> 01:27:06,960
for future generations.

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01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:10,239
Our target here is update zoning

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01:27:10,239 --> 01:27:12,480
regulations to reduce the amount of

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01:27:12,480 --> 01:27:15,199
water demand and per capita water use

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01:27:15,199 --> 01:27:17,360
for future development.

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01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,920
Initiatives include support decreased

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01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:23,120
lot size and configuration standards.

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01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,040
allow increased density where

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01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:28,080
appropriate to maximize water efficiency

2223
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,480
and to consider prohibiting land uses

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01:27:30,480 --> 01:27:33,199
that consume large amounts of water.

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01:27:33,199 --> 01:27:36,320
Next slide.

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01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:38,320
All right. [clears throat] In addition

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01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,760
to the 14 guiding principles um and the

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01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:43,440
associated chapters, the Northwest

2229
01:27:43,440 --> 01:27:45,360
Community Plan update also includes a

2230
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,600
new future land use map and the state

2231
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:49,600
required station area plan for the four

2232
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:52,320
track stations within the community.

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01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,080
Let's start by discussing the future

2234
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,960
land use map. Please note I'll be using

2235
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,920
a friendly acronym known as flum for the

2236
01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:02,480
rest of the presentation.

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01:28:02,480 --> 01:28:04,960
So what is a flum?

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01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:06,560
I know [laughter]

2239
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,800
it's a it's a mouthful if I don't. The

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01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,800
flum guides future development within

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01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,040
the community by establishing a flexible

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01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:16,159
framework that offers adaptability

2243
01:28:16,159 --> 01:28:18,159
enabling the community to evolve over

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01:28:18,159 --> 01:28:21,199
time. It is a tool used to evaluate

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01:28:21,199 --> 01:28:23,120
requests to amend the zoning map to

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01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:25,280
ensure that they are consistent with the

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01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:27,600
vision of the community, align with the

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01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,280
policies and support the specific

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01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:31,040
initiatives while also supporting

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01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:34,159
citywide needs and goals. What doesn't a

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01:28:34,159 --> 01:28:37,360
flum do? It does not alter existing

2252
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,679
zoning. Any requests would go through

2253
01:28:39,679 --> 01:28:41,600
the standard review process for a map

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01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,000
amendment and would require approval by

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01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:49,189
the city council. Next slide.

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01:28:49,199 --> 01:28:51,360
To guide the creation of the flum, the

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01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:53,600
team developed six principles based on

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01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,880
city policy, the targets established in

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01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,120
the plan, and community feedback. The

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01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:00,931
principles include the following.

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01:29:00,931 --> 01:29:03,040
[snorts] Enhance and activate identified

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01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:06,080
corridors as vibrant areas. I'll go more

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01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:09,360
into that um in a following slide.

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01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,360
Protect the Jordan River's riparian

2265
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:14,159
corridor. Encourage new infill housing

2266
01:29:14,159 --> 01:29:17,120
development. Utilize utilize moderate

2267
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:20,320
density to buffer regional mixed use.

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01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,480
Activate Jordan River Parkway and Fulsum

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01:29:22,480 --> 01:29:25,360
Trail and encourage appropriately scaled

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01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:26,800
commercial development throughout the

2271
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:30,870
community. Next slide.

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01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:32,880
All right. This is a Flum comparison

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01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,800
map. The exa existing map on the left

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01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:38,320
illustrates the future land use

2275
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:41,360
designations in existing zoning. The

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01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:43,920
future land use map on the right is what

2277
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:46,960
the draft plan includes. As you can see,

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01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:49,120
there are changes that reflect the six

2279
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:51,679
principles. Additionally, it's important

2280
01:29:51,679 --> 01:29:53,760
to note that these new designations were

2281
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:55,600
developed for community plan updates

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01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,480
going forward. This ensures consistency

2283
01:29:58,480 --> 01:30:00,480
with all future land use maps within

2284
01:30:00,480 --> 01:30:05,520
community plan updates. Next slide.

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01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:07,679
All right, the corridors. I want to

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01:30:07,679 --> 01:30:09,360
highlight one of the more significant

2287
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:12,320
changes in the Flem. The team identified

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01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,480
the corridors listed on the screen using

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01:30:14,480 --> 01:30:16,800
the following factors.

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01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,199
Complete streets, planned rightway

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01:30:19,199 --> 01:30:22,639
improvements, hightraic areas, that's

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01:30:22,639 --> 01:30:26,080
pedestrian, bike, and vehicle as yeah,

2293
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:27,760
pedestrian, bike, vehicle, and bus

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01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,320
lines. New development that can be

2295
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:32,800
supported by established community.

2296
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:34,639
opportunities for properties to

2297
01:30:34,639 --> 01:30:36,480
transition from residential to mixed

2298
01:30:36,480 --> 01:30:40,229
use.

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01:30:40,239 --> 01:30:42,159
And you'll see in these corridors that

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01:30:42,159 --> 01:30:44,320
are identified on the screen, they are

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01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:47,280
primarily um [clears throat] low scale

2302
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:51,199
mixed use. Uh the lightest purple is one

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01:30:51,199 --> 01:30:53,199
to two stories and then the medium

2304
01:30:53,199 --> 01:30:56,000
purple is two to three stories. So a

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01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:57,679
small transition to the residential

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01:30:57,679 --> 01:31:01,760
neighborhoods. Next slide, please.

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01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:04,159
A station area plan is required by state

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01:31:04,159 --> 01:31:06,880
law for any fixed rail station. And this

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01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:08,639
community has the following four

2310
01:31:08,639 --> 01:31:11,840
stations. The Jackson Uklid, Fair Park

2311
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:14,480
Station, Power Station, and the 1940

2312
01:31:14,480 --> 01:31:17,520
West Station. The North Temple Station

2313
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:20,400
areas are the primary location of growth

2314
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:22,719
within the community that will

2315
01:31:22,719 --> 01:31:25,679
accomplish the following. provide areas

2316
01:31:25,679 --> 01:31:28,159
for a mix of housing types with the

2317
01:31:28,159 --> 01:31:30,639
densest housing closer to the stations

2318
01:31:30,639 --> 01:31:33,360
and a mix of housing throughout the area

2319
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:36,880
with a focus on ownership opportunities.

2320
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:39,679
Improve sidewalks, trails, bike paths,

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01:31:39,679 --> 01:31:41,760
and streets so that people are safely

2322
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:44,159
traveling and comfortable throughout the

2323
01:31:44,159 --> 01:31:46,480
station area and into the surrounding

2324
01:31:46,480 --> 01:31:49,120
neighborhoods. connected public spaces

2325
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:52,159
that give a people to uh give people a

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01:31:52,159 --> 01:31:53,920
reason to visit the parks, use the

2327
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:55,440
trails, and support the local

2328
01:31:55,440 --> 01:31:56,960
businesses.

2329
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:59,040
Improve the Jordan River by activating

2330
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:01,199
key stretches while providing

2331
01:32:01,199 --> 01:32:03,520
appropriate wildlife habitat and

2332
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:05,679
encouraging the use of the river as a

2333
01:32:05,679 --> 01:32:08,320
recreational asset.

2334
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,960
support existing local businesses and

2335
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:13,440
promote more entrepreneurship

2336
01:32:13,440 --> 01:32:15,440
and balance the needs of regional

2337
01:32:15,440 --> 01:32:17,360
attractions within the community and the

2338
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:19,679
current and future residences as well as

2339
01:32:19,679 --> 01:32:22,239
business owners.

2340
01:32:22,239 --> 01:32:24,800
Next slide please.

2341
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:27,520
So there there's a lot of acronyms but

2342
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:30,800
now yeah station area plan is SAP um and

2343
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:34,480
flum. the the sapflum is on the screen.

2344
01:32:34,480 --> 01:32:39,600
Um it is um highlighting within the the

2345
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:42,239
radius around those station areas.

2346
01:32:42,239 --> 01:32:45,120
You'll see that there are primarily

2347
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:48,000
um four colors of purple. The darkest

2348
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:50,960
purple is the JRF that re that reflects

2349
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:53,600
the power district that has the highest

2350
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:57,280
intensity uses along this corridor. the

2351
01:32:57,280 --> 01:33:01,199
um the kind of moderate purple which is

2352
01:33:01,199 --> 01:33:04,320
surrounding the power district is a step

2353
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:07,440
down from the JR district and then that

2354
01:33:07,440 --> 01:33:09,520
purple kind of dilutes as you further

2355
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:14,709
get out from those stations.

2356
01:33:14,719 --> 01:33:18,480
Um, a couple a few objectives of this

2357
01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:21,199
flum are to again create opportunities

2358
01:33:21,199 --> 01:33:23,040
for mixeduse development within the

2359
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:25,920
station areas and allow for higher

2360
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,400
densities on land closest to the

2361
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:30,960
stations and then decreasing densities

2362
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:34,400
further away from the station. Um, to

2363
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:36,080
support the development of the power

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01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:38,560
site as indicated in the DA between the

2365
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:40,960
city and the property owner. analyze

2366
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,040
zoning to identify and remove outdated

2367
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:45,280
and ineffective regulations and then to

2368
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:46,880
promote that home ownership that we

2369
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:51,040
mentioned before. Next slide.

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01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:53,360
We're almost done.

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01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:55,440
Okay. So, planning commission boarded a

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01:33:55,440 --> 01:33:59,199
unanimous recommendation for adoption to

2373
01:33:59,199 --> 01:34:01,840
um the city council on the 25th of

2374
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:06,400
February. Next slide.

2375
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:09,520
This is a QR code. The draft plan is

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01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:13,120
still live on shape SLC.

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01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:15,840
Next slide

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01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:17,760
and then the three of us are here to

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01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:20,960
answer any questions.

2380
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:23,990
>> Council member,

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01:34:23,990 --> 01:34:24,000
» Council member,

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01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:25,270
>> thank you.

2383
01:34:25,270 --> 01:34:25,280
» thank you.

2384
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,590
>> Uh always lovely to have you all using

2385
01:34:27,590 --> 01:34:27,600
» Uh always lovely to have you all using

2386
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,320
your expertise to focus on my home. I

2387
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,719
appreciate everything you've done. Um

2388
01:34:32,719 --> 01:34:34,960
going to ask a million questions now in

2389
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:36,800
no specific order.

2390
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:38,790
>> Okay. We talk about things like per

2391
01:34:38,790 --> 01:34:38,800
» Okay. We talk about things like per

2392
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:42,159
capita investment. I don't need an in

2393
01:34:42,159 --> 01:34:43,840
response right now, but I'd like to go

2394
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:45,679
deeper on that. I'm particularly worried

2395
01:34:45,679 --> 01:34:46,960
about this because at the next

2396
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:49,920
redistricting, my district will inherit

2397
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,480
about 6500

2398
01:34:52,480 --> 01:34:56,400
to 9,000 people who are incarcerated,

2399
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:58,639
who will never show up, who will never

2400
01:34:58,639 --> 01:35:00,159
be able to participate in a beautiful

2401
01:35:00,159 --> 01:35:03,199
city in a meaningful way. What does that

2402
01:35:03,199 --> 01:35:05,360
do to per capita investment? What does

2403
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:07,120
that do to my district? I want to just

2404
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:09,040
talk about that. That's a longer term

2405
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:12,880
conversation I want to have. Um, we have

2406
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:15,040
four years before the census will tell

2407
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:16,880
us, then redistricting will follow that.

2408
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:20,080
So, um,

2409
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:22,239
can you clarify? You said the JR the

2410
01:35:22,239 --> 01:35:24,800
Jordan River Trail should go north. It

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01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:25,760
does.

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01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:28,149
>> I I saw you write down that question, so

2413
01:35:28,149 --> 01:35:28,159
» I I saw you write down that question, so

2414
01:35:28,159 --> 01:35:29,280
I pulled up my map.

2415
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:30,550
>> I've written my bike. I was like, am I

2416
01:35:30,550 --> 01:35:30,560
» I've written my bike. I was like, am I

2417
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:31,760
riding my bike on something not the

2418
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:32,880
Jordan River Trail?

2419
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:36,550
>> It's confusing. Um, we have received

2420
01:35:36,550 --> 01:35:36,560
» It's confusing. Um, we have received

2421
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:39,360
quite a bit of public input from the

2422
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:41,520
Jordan River Commission that the Jordan

2423
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:44,960
River Trail should extend north um into

2424
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:48,000
the new newly annexed area of the city.

2425
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:51,120
So, essentially, I just pulled up my map

2426
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:55,280
3500 north. It it doesn't extend that

2427
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:57,840
far north and it is a challenge.

2428
01:35:57,840 --> 01:35:59,189
>> It goes all the way up to like Leighton,

2429
01:35:59,189 --> 01:35:59,199
» It goes all the way up to like Leighton,

2430
01:35:59,199 --> 01:36:01,840
doesn't it? There's a section that

2431
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,639
doesn't connect that maybe we just maybe

2432
01:36:04,639 --> 01:36:07,120
we're just like illegally riding on some

2433
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:08,400
sidewalks and stuff [laughter] there.

2434
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:11,030
>> Okay. I've not experienced a disruption.

2435
01:36:11,030 --> 01:36:11,040
» Okay. I've not experienced a disruption.

2436
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:12,960
I I'm open to it. I just was like I

2437
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:13,360
didn't

2438
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:15,510
>> It's a challenging section of of the

2439
01:36:15,510 --> 01:36:15,520
» It's a challenging section of of the

2440
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:20,000
river because we we don't we would

2441
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:21,679
on the east side. It would have to

2442
01:36:21,679 --> 01:36:23,840
switch to the west side of the river and

2443
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:25,120
then back to the east.

2444
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:28,629
>> Okay. Okay. Thank you. Um, so I noticed

2445
01:36:28,629 --> 01:36:28,639
» Okay. Okay. Thank you. Um, so I noticed

2446
01:36:28,639 --> 01:36:31,840
that there's a ton of focus on the TSA

2447
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:33,679
area, you know, around those station

2448
01:36:33,679 --> 01:36:35,360
area plans, which makes sense since

2449
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:37,280
that's that's where we'll densify. What

2450
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,440
I worry about is if we don't call out

2451
01:36:39,440 --> 01:36:42,880
supporting the growth around that. So,

2452
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:44,880
my neighbors are getting stressed out

2453
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:47,840
when it feels like we are supporting all

2454
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:51,840
of the um apartments and things being

2455
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:54,159
put in, but no one ever comes and puts

2456
01:36:54,159 --> 01:36:56,400
traffic calming on the roads where we

2457
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,320
are. Even though the number of roads

2458
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:01,280
going in is increasing or the the the

2459
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:03,920
usage on like Redwood is a mess, you

2460
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:05,280
know, no matter what time of day. And

2461
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:06,560
that's a state road. So, I'm not calling

2462
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:07,840
out our transportation department. I'm

2463
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,000
calling out state investment there. Um,

2464
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:13,920
so you know, like yes, the TSA, but as

2465
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:15,360
we're doing that, I' I'd like some

2466
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,159
specific call outs to making sure that

2467
01:37:18,159 --> 01:37:20,480
the residential, you know, not just

2468
01:37:20,480 --> 01:37:22,239
infill development, but what it means

2469
01:37:22,239 --> 01:37:24,159
for any of it to be developed and for

2470
01:37:24,159 --> 01:37:26,159
that density to increase so that people

2471
01:37:26,159 --> 01:37:28,000
who stay even in things that might not

2472
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:30,719
densify can still have a reasonable

2473
01:37:30,719 --> 01:37:33,040
expectation that their kids can ride

2474
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:35,840
their bikes and not have to confront

2475
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:38,560
Teslas going, you know, 70 m hour down,

2476
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:42,159
1200 watt. test. Um,

2477
01:37:42,159 --> 01:37:44,719
we talked about housing and while I'm a

2478
01:37:44,719 --> 01:37:47,679
huge team player, we take more than one

2479
01:37:47,679 --> 01:37:49,280
for the team, we take about a dozen for

2480
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:51,119
the team when it comes to not just

2481
01:37:51,119 --> 01:37:52,880
affordability, but rehabilitative

2482
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:54,719
housing. So, I don't love that the only

2483
01:37:54,719 --> 01:37:56,960
thing that was called out there was that

2484
01:37:56,960 --> 01:38:00,080
we would comply with uh the house the

2485
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:01,679
housing throughout the city. I really

2486
01:38:01,679 --> 01:38:03,600
want to talk about workforce housing.

2487
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:05,840
Right now, we have housing that if you

2488
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:07,679
can afford a half million dollar

2489
01:38:07,679 --> 01:38:10,320
mortgage um and have some economic

2490
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:12,320
mobility, you can buy one of the one of

2491
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:13,600
the homes that have historically been

2492
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:16,080
there that have some land. We have a

2493
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,560
space if you are coming out of jail and

2494
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:19,920
like the other side village and those

2495
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:21,280
sorts of models or need a place to

2496
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:23,679
rehabilitate. We don't have housing for

2497
01:38:23,679 --> 01:38:26,560
teachers and firefighters and the union

2498
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:28,639
workers who have historically called

2499
01:38:28,639 --> 01:38:31,520
that place home. We need workforce

2500
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:33,119
housing. We need housing for the people

2501
01:38:33,119 --> 01:38:35,199
who have called the work the west side

2502
01:38:35,199 --> 01:38:37,280
home, who continue to call it home, who

2503
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:38,960
have made it the coolest place to live

2504
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:40,960
in all of Utah. So, I really would like

2505
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:42,960
a specific call out for workforce

2506
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:44,719
housing and the particular demographic

2507
01:38:44,719 --> 01:38:48,239
we're incentivizing there. We always

2508
01:38:48,239 --> 01:38:50,239
feel the economics and we'll always end

2509
01:38:50,239 --> 01:38:51,520
up with the deeply affordable and

2510
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:55,119
rehabilitative housing if we don't. Um,

2511
01:38:55,119 --> 01:38:56,960
in the staff report there was a call out

2512
01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:59,440
to ebike vouchers and other things to

2513
01:38:59,440 --> 01:39:01,760
help with air quality. If we don't

2514
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:05,040
include something about infrastructure

2515
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:07,119
around initiatives like that, we will

2516
01:39:07,119 --> 01:39:10,000
never have success. So if we have micro

2517
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:12,400
units over there,

2518
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:13,840
where are people supposed to keep their

2519
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:15,520
ebikes?

2520
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:17,920
We are living multi-generationally.

2521
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:19,600
People are asking for more than three

2522
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:21,600
bedrooms. My neighbors were refugees

2523
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:24,159
from Somalia who had grandparents,

2524
01:39:24,159 --> 01:39:26,159
parents, and children all in the same

2525
01:39:26,159 --> 01:39:28,639
house. They do not have the extra space

2526
01:39:28,639 --> 01:39:30,560
for bikes. If we really really really

2527
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:33,199
want to contribute to not just

2528
01:39:33,199 --> 01:39:37,360
possessing an ebike but to using it, we

2529
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:38,960
need to look at the infrastructure

2530
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:41,520
around that biking. We need storage. We

2531
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:43,920
need winterized storage. And we need

2532
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,000
security. I don't ride my bike to

2533
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:47,600
Smiths. Well, because it's easy enough

2534
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:49,199
for me to walk there from my house, but

2535
01:39:49,199 --> 01:39:51,040
I don't ride my bike to Smiths because I

2536
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:53,119
can't be guaranteed that when I get out,

2537
01:39:53,119 --> 01:39:54,880
it will be there. There is not a bike

2538
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:56,800
lock that the people who are intent on

2539
01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:58,480
taking it have not figured out how to

2540
01:39:58,480 --> 01:40:00,639
cut through. We need an infrastructure

2541
01:40:00,639 --> 01:40:02,159
so that people can be sure that when

2542
01:40:02,159 --> 01:40:04,639
they come out those bikes will be there.

2543
01:40:04,639 --> 01:40:07,679
There's no amount of hoping for an ebike

2544
01:40:07,679 --> 01:40:10,800
situation or even a biking culture that

2545
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,920
we can promote without going deep on

2546
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:16,000
building the infrastructure there. Also,

2547
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:17,600
if this is the place in the city where

2548
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:19,760
we're inviting in people who are

2549
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:22,159
refugees and new Americans, as we very

2550
01:40:22,159 --> 01:40:25,440
proudly are, biking culture might not

2551
01:40:25,440 --> 01:40:28,800
exist if your family was figuring out

2552
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:30,960
just how to get to a safe place. You

2553
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:32,880
didn't grow up riding a bike. So, the

2554
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:34,000
initiatives over there and the

2555
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:35,440
infrastructure over there is going to

2556
01:40:35,440 --> 01:40:36,560
look different. And it shouldn't be

2557
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:38,159
condescending, but we should be open to

2558
01:40:38,159 --> 01:40:41,119
the idea that that's an assumption we've

2559
01:40:41,119 --> 01:40:42,880
started with that's already a couple

2560
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:44,639
steps down from where people are in

2561
01:40:44,639 --> 01:40:47,760
their ability to adopt it. Um, I love

2562
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:49,840
that we called out arts and my neighbors

2563
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:51,920
are the most creative. We have a real

2564
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:54,719
difficulty with finding any venues in

2565
01:40:54,719 --> 01:40:57,440
our area. Um, you know, even in other

2566
01:40:57,440 --> 01:40:59,440
places, uh, even Marmalade has a little

2567
01:40:59,440 --> 01:41:02,480
bit of a a a small, so maybe this is

2568
01:41:02,480 --> 01:41:04,159
something we want to talk to the library

2569
01:41:04,159 --> 01:41:06,719
about. Um, I know that Day Riverside is

2570
01:41:06,719 --> 01:41:09,440
on theirs, but we don't have a

2571
01:41:09,440 --> 01:41:12,320
winterproof way to gather. We do have a

2572
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:14,159
fantastic river trail and we've been

2573
01:41:14,159 --> 01:41:15,920
hearing a lot about busker fest and and

2574
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:18,080
ways to try to support those things, but

2575
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:20,960
venues are huge on the arts. Um, on

2576
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:23,600
preservation, we just don't have as many

2577
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:26,639
landmarks. No one cares where the union

2578
01:41:26,639 --> 01:41:28,560
plumber rested his head. We only care

2579
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:32,000
where the notable name who but what

2580
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:35,119
makes our west side so special is that

2581
01:41:35,119 --> 01:41:36,800
the union plumber rested their head

2582
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:39,840
there. So I'm I yes let's put things on

2583
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:42,719
the national register but those tend to

2584
01:41:42,719 --> 01:41:47,119
commemorate moments or locations.

2585
01:41:47,119 --> 01:41:48,880
I would love to see a forward-looking

2586
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:50,960
preservation that would commemorate

2587
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:54,159
movements that would look at like the

2588
01:41:54,159 --> 01:41:56,719
rose is called Rose Park because if you

2589
01:41:56,719 --> 01:41:59,920
look at it from the air, it was in the

2590
01:41:59,920 --> 01:42:01,920
shape of a rose and if your house was on

2591
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:04,320
a petal, it had a red roof and if it was

2592
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:06,400
on the stem, it had a green roof. And

2593
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:08,320
the names of the streets are types of

2594
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:10,719
roses. And it happened all after World

2595
01:42:10,719 --> 01:42:12,639
War II. This is a really interesting

2596
01:42:12,639 --> 01:42:15,679
postwar movement and it was specifically

2597
01:42:15,679 --> 01:42:18,560
designed from people returning from war

2598
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:22,400
to be able to have a house and it led to

2599
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:24,400
post-war prosperity in a way we've never

2600
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:27,360
seen. That's not one person's story. The

2601
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:29,760
Westside is our collective story. So, as

2602
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:31,360
we're looking at preservation, yes, that

2603
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:33,440
National Historic Register, but if we

2604
01:42:33,440 --> 01:42:35,280
could figure out ways to commemorate the

2605
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:37,119
movement, the thing that happened there,

2606
01:42:37,119 --> 01:42:40,400
the story of the people, not the person,

2607
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:41,840
I think we're going to get more bang for

2608
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:43,520
our buck on the history that we're

2609
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:46,080
trying to preserve over in that area.

2610
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:49,119
Um, under the economic development, I

2611
01:42:49,119 --> 01:42:50,400
think we need to go beyond just

2612
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:52,560
subsidies. I love I'm thankful anytime

2613
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:54,480
someone wants to help, but we actually

2614
01:42:54,480 --> 01:42:57,040
need an active destigmatization. I go to

2615
01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:58,880
other districts to eat dinner. I don't

2616
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:00,480
know that other people come to my

2617
01:43:00,480 --> 01:43:02,080
district to eat dinner except for Red

2618
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:03,679
Iguana and then everyone who passes

2619
01:43:03,679 --> 01:43:06,480
through thanks to reality TV stops there

2620
01:43:06,480 --> 01:43:08,400
and technically that's Alejandra's even

2621
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:10,159
though I'm a share that we we share in

2622
01:43:10,159 --> 01:43:13,520
this plan. Um so we need an an active

2623
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:15,040
destigmatization.

2624
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:17,840
We need a strategy to signal to everyone

2625
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:20,320
that not only is it safe but this is

2626
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:23,360
actually really viby. Lena has put this

2627
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:26,320
already in the um economic plan, but if

2628
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:27,840
we can call out, it's it's it needs to

2629
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:31,280
go beyond just giving money to an issue

2630
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:33,360
and it needs to go to storytelling,

2631
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:35,360
narrative building, marketing, and

2632
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:37,760
really emphasizing economic possibility

2633
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:41,360
beyond just that. And then finally, um

2634
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:43,440
when we talk about the water smart, we

2635
01:43:43,440 --> 01:43:45,199
have to call out what our water prices

2636
01:43:45,199 --> 01:43:47,920
are doing. My neighbors could not be

2637
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:51,040
more frustrated that they are using less

2638
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:54,480
water, doing their job, sacrificing

2639
01:43:54,480 --> 01:43:56,080
yards that they may have historically

2640
01:43:56,080 --> 01:44:00,000
had and paying more than they ever have

2641
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:01,760
and then watching institutional

2642
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,239
neighbors have never have all their

2643
01:44:04,239 --> 01:44:06,239
sprinkler heads working, you know,

2644
01:44:06,239 --> 01:44:09,600
watering the the sidewalks and, you

2645
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:11,920
know, like never feeling. So, as we're

2646
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:13,600
doing that, we have to call out what our

2647
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:15,119
water rates and what our water

2648
01:44:15,119 --> 01:44:17,040
strategies are doing. And we need to

2649
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:20,320
figure out how to promote water smart in

2650
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:22,400
a way that is responsive to those

2651
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:25,119
frustrations. Maybe even policy that can

2652
01:44:25,119 --> 01:44:28,000
be responsive to it without making

2653
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:30,960
people feel like charity cases and while

2654
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:32,639
promoting

2655
01:44:32,639 --> 01:44:34,320
people want to conserve over there. But

2656
01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:35,520
we just have to we have to know that

2657
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:36,800
these frustrations are there. If you ask

2658
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:38,400
my neighbors to conserve one more time

2659
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:40,480
and raise their rates at the same time,

2660
01:44:40,480 --> 01:44:42,320
I guarantee you they're going to mutiny

2661
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:44,320
and they're just going to like, you

2662
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:47,119
know, start watering for the fun of it.

2663
01:44:47,119 --> 01:44:50,000
So, um, yeah, but thank you. I think

2664
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:52,719
everything is it's amazingly

2665
01:44:52,719 --> 01:44:54,719
comprehensive the way you've looked at

2666
01:44:54,719 --> 01:44:56,159
the community. Thank you for

2667
01:44:56,159 --> 01:44:58,800
capitalizing on our strengths. Um, some

2668
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:01,760
guidance for how to engage with partners

2669
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:04,239
who could preempt us, I think, might be

2670
01:45:04,239 --> 01:45:06,800
helpful. you know, some priorities in

2671
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:09,199
negotiation things, those sorts of

2672
01:45:09,199 --> 01:45:11,360
things might be helpful since we know

2673
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:13,840
that we are increasingly losing um

2674
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:15,600
traction both on the industrial front

2675
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:17,520
with the port and with the power

2676
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:19,920
district. Um but thank you. I appreciate

2677
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:21,360
everything you've done.

2678
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:23,750
>> Any other thoughts?

2679
01:45:23,750 --> 01:45:23,760
» Any other thoughts?

2680
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:26,070
>> Thank you very much. Just from this the

2681
01:45:26,070 --> 01:45:26,080
» Thank you very much. Just from this the

2682
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:29,920
uh staff report just talks about some um

2683
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:31,280
does the administration have any

2684
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:33,280
specific projects with cost estimates

2685
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:35,199
associated with it? I mean, council

2686
01:45:35,199 --> 01:45:37,679
member Petro listed out a bunch of uh

2687
01:45:37,679 --> 01:45:41,360
concerns, but also, you know, um

2688
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:43,199
you know, beauty the beauty of this

2689
01:45:43,199 --> 01:45:46,800
program, this plan, but any cost on some

2690
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:48,480
of the stuff because it's a great plan,

2691
01:45:48,480 --> 01:45:50,560
but is there

2692
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:52,719
thoughts on the dollar on to to

2693
01:45:52,719 --> 01:45:54,159
implement some of those things, get

2694
01:45:54,159 --> 01:45:57,119
things moving? Yeah, in the

2695
01:45:57,119 --> 01:46:00,639
implementation matrix there are if you

2696
01:46:00,639 --> 01:46:03,199
want to pull that up

2697
01:46:03,199 --> 01:46:04,950
>> and that's at the very end of the plan.

2698
01:46:04,950 --> 01:46:04,960
» and that's at the very end of the plan.

2699
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:05,119
It

2700
01:46:05,119 --> 01:46:09,669
>> is at the very end. Um it yeah it

2701
01:46:09,669 --> 01:46:09,679
» is at the very end. Um it yeah it

2702
01:46:09,679 --> 01:46:12,239
provides four resources. So staff,

2703
01:46:12,239 --> 01:46:15,679
finances, time and community like how

2704
01:46:15,679 --> 01:46:17,920
involved will the community be and is it

2705
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:20,400
primarily on the city? Right. And we

2706
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:22,400
evaluate each of these initiatives

2707
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:24,560
associated with the identified targets

2708
01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:28,400
as far as um what type of investment

2709
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:30,239
from each of these resources that will

2710
01:46:30,239 --> 01:46:32,560
be. Uh there are quite a few that the

2711
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:35,440
finances are high and quite a few that

2712
01:46:35,440 --> 01:46:37,440
it's low. Right. We can do these things

2713
01:46:37,440 --> 01:46:39,920
in house and start to knock out some of

2714
01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:42,480
these zoning changes. Um work with

2715
01:46:42,480 --> 01:46:44,480
transportation on some of the identified

2716
01:46:44,480 --> 01:46:47,440
issues you just mentioned um etc. some

2717
01:46:47,440 --> 01:46:49,840
of the other items that we've identified

2718
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:52,000
might be more costly and knowing our

2719
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:54,159
budget concerns, they might not happen

2720
01:46:54,159 --> 01:46:56,960
in the next five years. We know that.

2721
01:46:56,960 --> 01:47:00,080
But as far as going out for bid, we have

2722
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:03,360
not done that.

2723
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:06,950
>> Okay. I I there was a few things that

2724
01:47:06,950 --> 01:47:06,960
» Okay. I I there was a few things that

2725
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:09,840
call my attention. Um I sincerely I

2726
01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:12,239
appreciate the the work put into this

2727
01:47:12,239 --> 01:47:16,800
and I think I um I love measures of

2728
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:18,960
success and this is what that this is

2729
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:21,760
right is understanding how we are going

2730
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:27,040
to um measure or or uh know if we're

2731
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:30,880
doing good or not uh and setting that uh

2732
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:34,159
standard for ourselves. Um and I think

2733
01:47:34,159 --> 01:47:36,960
uh in the section of government uh it

2734
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:38,400
says you know increase the number of

2735
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:41,199
residents participation. I I want us to

2736
01:47:41,199 --> 01:47:44,000
think big and strong about that. Um I

2737
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:47,679
want us to get the west side or or at

2738
01:47:47,679 --> 01:47:50,639
least this area of the west side which

2739
01:47:50,639 --> 01:47:52,880
is you know the majority of your your

2740
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:55,199
portion in district one but there is

2741
01:47:55,199 --> 01:47:57,360
several slivers of of my district in in

2742
01:47:57,360 --> 01:48:01,199
it. Um but I want us to match uh other

2743
01:48:01,199 --> 01:48:03,119
portions of the city. I know that's hard

2744
01:48:03,119 --> 01:48:07,199
to do um for for multiple reasons. Um

2745
01:48:07,199 --> 01:48:10,480
but that will require a lot of money and

2746
01:48:10,480 --> 01:48:12,880
a lot of time from our city and you know

2747
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:15,920
a thoughtful plan on how to do that.

2748
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:18,320
It's just not just increase it but match

2749
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:21,199
it. Um, and to me that's that would be

2750
01:48:21,199 --> 01:48:23,040
the real measure of success uh when

2751
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:25,679
we're talking about government and uh it

2752
01:48:25,679 --> 01:48:29,040
equity costs more and it's harder to to

2753
01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:32,639
get uh too. So I uh and I think that to

2754
01:48:32,639 --> 01:48:34,560
me is the key to the success of this

2755
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:36,480
project if if we have more of a westside

2756
01:48:36,480 --> 01:48:39,199
voices participating in all levels of

2757
01:48:39,199 --> 01:48:41,760
the city. Um

2758
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:44,080
and um

2759
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:47,199
that to me is the the the key piece uh

2760
01:48:47,199 --> 01:48:49,440
that I want to see from from this this

2761
01:48:49,440 --> 01:48:51,600
part of the city. I I I can tell you

2762
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:53,840
about a million other pieces that I have

2763
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:55,840
thoughts, but sincerely if we have more

2764
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:57,760
Westside voices at the table,

2765
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:00,320
participating with the city, knowing how

2766
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:02,880
to tell us when something is wrong,

2767
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:04,560
advocating much like all the

2768
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:06,639
neighborhoods are advocating for, you

2769
01:49:06,639 --> 01:49:09,920
know, signs or, you know, potholes or

2770
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:12,560
whatever it is, um we will have a more

2771
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:14,639
equitable city by itself. It will just

2772
01:49:14,639 --> 01:49:18,000
happen. Um so I I think that to me is

2773
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:22,320
the key to this plan. um and beefing up

2774
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:24,880
that government portion of of that. I

2775
01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:28,080
think it is on us uh to get more

2776
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:30,480
neighbors participating. Um I really

2777
01:49:30,480 --> 01:49:32,960
appreciate the work. I appreciate the

2778
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:35,440
amount of engagement that uh that you

2779
01:49:35,440 --> 01:49:38,320
are uh that they you put together to get

2780
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:42,000
feedback from the community. Um I to me

2781
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:44,159
uh when we're talking about government I

2782
01:49:44,159 --> 01:49:47,040
also want us to ensure that we respond

2783
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:49,520
and and you mentioned this in in in the

2784
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:53,119
plan but in the equitable manner uh when

2785
01:49:53,119 --> 01:49:56,800
issues uh raise and I

2786
01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:58,719
I

2787
01:49:58,719 --> 01:50:00,480
know that my neighbors our neighbors are

2788
01:50:00,480 --> 01:50:02,560
saying many times if this would have

2789
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:05,920
happened in X neighborhood east side it

2790
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:09,360
would have been different. Um, I tend to

2791
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:11,360
disagree most of the time with that

2792
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:16,719
argument, but I also have found our city

2793
01:50:16,719 --> 01:50:19,520
mistakenly uh not purposely doing

2794
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:22,400
something different sometimes much like

2795
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:25,679
when we uh the unfortunate accident with

2796
01:50:25,679 --> 01:50:28,639
killing of those you know 100 plus

2797
01:50:28,639 --> 01:50:31,600
trees. It took us a while to get an

2798
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:34,080
actual response from our city really to

2799
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:36,639
to come up with a plan on how to

2800
01:50:36,639 --> 01:50:38,719
mitigate that that mistake. It was a

2801
01:50:38,719 --> 01:50:40,239
sincere mistake. It was a terrible

2802
01:50:40,239 --> 01:50:42,080
mistake, but it was a sincere it wasn't

2803
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:45,360
purpose. But the city took a while to

2804
01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:48,159
respond and it it really took, you know,

2805
01:50:48,159 --> 01:50:49,920
really the press the community to just

2806
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:52,719
be upset about it. But this one example,

2807
01:50:52,719 --> 01:50:54,159
if would have happened in a different

2808
01:50:54,159 --> 01:50:57,600
neighborhood, it it would have been uh

2809
01:50:57,600 --> 01:50:59,760
catastrophic for for many of us

2810
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:03,840
politicians. Um and I wish sometimes we

2811
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:06,880
responded the same way. Um and I know

2812
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:09,040
that we try very hard. Uh and I know

2813
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:10,719
that it's not, you know, this

2814
01:51:10,719 --> 01:51:12,719
administration and this city has done an

2815
01:51:12,719 --> 01:51:15,119
incredible work in and in and bridging

2816
01:51:15,119 --> 01:51:18,159
this gap. I want us to not just bridge

2817
01:51:18,159 --> 01:51:20,080
over the gap, but reduce, you know,

2818
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:22,639
eliminate the gap, fill it up. Um, and

2819
01:51:22,639 --> 01:51:25,280
it's not going to be easily solved. It's

2820
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:27,040
going to take a while, and it's going to

2821
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:29,119
take a lot of money and time. So, I

2822
01:51:29,119 --> 01:51:30,639
appreciate the work. I appreciate the

2823
01:51:30,639 --> 01:51:31,920
administration and the work that you

2824
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:34,400
guys are doing to to solve this and the

2825
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:36,000
plan and envisioning this. So, thank

2826
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:37,040
you.

2827
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:40,080
Can I you you you jog my memory because

2828
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:43,520
it's not just um investing. It's

2829
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:45,599
investing in ways that make sense to our

2830
01:51:45,599 --> 01:51:47,440
neighbors that are responsive. And

2831
01:51:47,440 --> 01:51:49,679
especially as we gentrify, the people

2832
01:51:49,679 --> 01:51:52,320
who are likely to respond are people who

2833
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:55,119
have had the experience with government

2834
01:51:55,119 --> 01:51:56,960
where their voice has been heard and

2835
01:51:56,960 --> 01:51:59,760
responded to. That is not my historic

2836
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:01,840
That is not our historic neighbor. That

2837
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:04,400
is not a refugee population. that is not

2838
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:06,480
a blueco collar worker who is retiring

2839
01:52:06,480 --> 01:52:09,599
here who is used to being overlooked.

2840
01:52:09,599 --> 01:52:11,920
And so if we're serious about equity, if

2841
01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:13,599
we're serious about not gentrifying,

2842
01:52:13,599 --> 01:52:15,679
about creating a mixed income community

2843
01:52:15,679 --> 01:52:17,199
where the new people who can't afford

2844
01:52:17,199 --> 01:52:19,360
the half million dollar mortgages are

2845
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:21,040
welcome alongside the teachers,

2846
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:23,360
alongside the person in rehab, alongside

2847
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:26,719
the historic, then our outreach and our

2848
01:52:26,719 --> 01:52:28,880
responsiveness has to be consistent with

2849
01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:31,520
things that are meaningful and it has to

2850
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:36,000
go look for the people who won't be the

2851
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:38,880
lowest hanging fruit on response. We can

2852
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:40,960
very easily on the west side, especially

2853
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:42,560
once the power district gets up and

2854
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:44,960
going, create a falsified data set that

2855
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:47,920
will become the agent of gentrification

2856
01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:51,119
and will be responding to the community.

2857
01:52:51,119 --> 01:52:54,880
But I think um it's I don't I I think

2858
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:56,800
it's it's really almost a cruel thing

2859
01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:58,080
for me to say on the record because it's

2860
01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:00,800
not not only is it not easy, there is

2861
01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:03,599
probably no clear-cut way to do this.

2862
01:53:03,599 --> 01:53:06,400
This is a very customized we have to go

2863
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:08,320
and understand our neighbors and

2864
01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:11,119
neighborhood in a way that city

2865
01:53:11,119 --> 01:53:13,119
government hasn't historically. It's the

2866
01:53:13,119 --> 01:53:15,199
paradigm shift. But I think if that's

2867
01:53:15,199 --> 01:53:17,040
what we're really intending, and I think

2868
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:20,159
all of us in this room are, um, there's

2869
01:53:20,159 --> 01:53:22,320
a level of responsiveness that isn't

2870
01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:26,159
just showing up when 911 is dialed, not

2871
01:53:26,159 --> 01:53:29,119
just, uh, making sure that we don't

2872
01:53:29,119 --> 01:53:31,679
inadvertently block access to Cottonwood

2873
01:53:31,679 --> 01:53:33,920
Dog Park by not having a bridge there

2874
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:38,080
for a year and a half. It's it's going

2875
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:40,639
and asking questions

2876
01:53:40,639 --> 01:53:42,639
in ways that they can be heard and then

2877
01:53:42,639 --> 01:53:44,960
responding in ways that are meaningful.

2878
01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:46,320
So, thank you for bringing that up

2879
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:47,679
because I think you're right. We we

2880
01:53:47,679 --> 01:53:49,679
could inadvertently decrease

2881
01:53:49,679 --> 01:53:51,360
responsiveness from the people who were

2882
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:52,880
actively trying to protect with this

2883
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:55,760
plan as the changes come if we're not

2884
01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:58,320
really strategic with that.

2885
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:00,310
>> Thank you. I appreciate the work that

2886
01:54:00,310 --> 01:54:00,320
» Thank you. I appreciate the work that

2887
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,080
you've done. Uh thank you for the time,

2888
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:04,320
the presentation. Thank you for making

2889
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:06,800
it clear. Um, I love this presentation

2890
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:08,880
also because it's uh user friendly. I

2891
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:11,520
sometimes plans get overwhelming. So, I

2892
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:13,360
appreciate how you done it. So, thank

2893
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:14,639
you so much for your time.

2894
01:54:14,639 --> 01:54:16,550
>> Thank you. And we will follow up with

2895
01:54:16,550 --> 01:54:16,560
» Thank you. And we will follow up with

2896
01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:17,599
those changes.

2897
01:54:17,599 --> 01:54:20,070
>> Thank you. Um, council members, we're a

2898
01:54:20,070 --> 01:54:20,080
» Thank you. Um, council members, we're a

2899
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:23,440
little behind. We're going to uh move on

2900
01:54:23,440 --> 01:54:26,639
to um item number five is another

2901
01:54:26,639 --> 01:54:27,679
informationational is anformational

2902
01:54:27,679 --> 01:54:30,320
item, central community plan update.

2903
01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:32,639
We're gonna um welcome at the table Kate

2904
01:54:32,639 --> 01:54:34,800
Witt council policy analyst. Megan

2905
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:36,800
Booth, principal planner. Chrissy

2906
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:38,960
Gilmore, planning manager and longtime

2907
01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:40,719
friend. By the way, we know each other

2908
01:54:40,719 --> 01:54:43,199
for 15 years. I don't know which doesn't

2909
01:54:43,199 --> 01:54:45,520
happen.

2910
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:48,080
Great. Thank you. The planning division

2911
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:49,840
is in the early stages of the central

2912
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:52,400
community plan update and the existing

2913
01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:54,560
conditions report was re provided to you

2914
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:57,280
for your review. This is proposed to

2915
01:54:57,280 --> 01:55:00,159
replace the 2005 plan. At this time, the

2916
01:55:00,159 --> 01:55:02,560
existing conditions report is drafted

2917
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:04,800
and community engagement has begun.

2918
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:07,119
Planning is seeking council policy input

2919
01:55:07,119 --> 01:55:09,440
on the plan update. This plan will

2920
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:10,639
eventually go to the planning

2921
01:55:10,639 --> 01:55:12,639
commission, then come back to council

2922
01:55:12,639 --> 01:55:15,520
for a public hearing and adoption. No

2923
01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:18,000
action is required at this time. A few

2924
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:19,920
potential policy discussion items

2925
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:23,599
include um park space access within the

2926
01:55:23,599 --> 01:55:26,960
the plan area. The council may also wish

2927
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:29,360
to ask planning staff what significant

2928
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:31,679
changes may arise in the upcoming plan,

2929
01:55:31,679 --> 01:55:34,239
including any public space improvements,

2930
01:55:34,239 --> 01:55:37,599
street changes, zoning modifications,

2931
01:55:37,599 --> 01:55:40,880
um new multimodal options, or anything

2932
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:42,400
similar to that. With that, I'll turn it

2933
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:46,709
to planning staff. Thanks.

2934
01:55:46,719 --> 01:55:48,480
» Thank you, council members. It's so nice

2935
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:50,639
to be here this afternoon. Um my name is

2936
01:55:50,639 --> 01:55:52,480
Megan Booth. I'm a principal planner in

2937
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:54,480
the planning division and today we're

2938
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:56,400
here to talk about the central community

2939
01:55:56,400 --> 01:55:59,520
plan update. Um as explained this is

2940
01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:02,080
just introductory and so we'll give a

2941
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:05,599
quick overview um of where we're at.

2942
01:56:05,599 --> 01:56:08,880
Next slide.

2943
01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:11,199
Um so this is really a briefing on the

2944
01:56:11,199 --> 01:56:13,280
scope of the project, the existing

2945
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:15,520
conditions report that was published in

2946
01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:18,159
May, the engagement plan or plan for

2947
01:56:18,159 --> 01:56:20,800
that and overall ideas for the central

2948
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:22,880
committee plan update. Our hope is

2949
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:25,199
really to gather your input, identify

2950
01:56:25,199 --> 01:56:28,159
key issues and opportunities um as it's

2951
01:56:28,159 --> 01:56:30,080
plain formal council action will come at

2952
01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:33,920
a later time. Next slide.

2953
01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:36,080
So the purpose and need um this current

2954
01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:38,719
plan is 20 years old. It was adopted in

2955
01:56:38,719 --> 01:56:41,599
2005. Um, we want to create a shared

2956
01:56:41,599 --> 01:56:43,599
vision for the next 15 years that

2957
01:56:43,599 --> 01:56:46,159
reflects today's community and align

2958
01:56:46,159 --> 01:56:48,639
with recently adopted citywide plans

2959
01:56:48,639 --> 01:56:50,560
such as Plan Salt Lake and Housing Salt

2960
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:54,320
Lake City. Um, as you saw with the

2961
01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:57,760
Northwest plan, um, these plan updates

2962
01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:00,159
are built to be measurable and updated

2963
01:57:00,159 --> 01:57:02,400
more often. So that's our hope with this

2964
01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:06,639
update as well. Next slide.

2965
01:57:06,639 --> 01:57:09,599
Um so this is slightly off work but kind

2966
01:57:09,599 --> 01:57:12,719
of true. Um we're right before big

2967
01:57:12,719 --> 01:57:14,480
ideas. So right now we're looking at all

2968
01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:16,719
the opportunities and issues. We're

2969
01:57:16,719 --> 01:57:19,920
doing public engagement and formulating

2970
01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:22,080
um some big ideas by working with the

2971
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:25,280
community. The draft plan will come next

2972
01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:27,440
and the final vision. So this is just

2973
01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:31,360
kind of a timeline for that. Next slide.

2974
01:57:31,360 --> 01:57:34,719
Um so um right now we also want to

2975
01:57:34,719 --> 01:57:37,119
highlight the existing conditions report

2976
01:57:37,119 --> 01:57:39,040
um that's been published and I'll turn

2977
01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:41,199
that over to Chrissy to go over some of

2978
01:57:41,199 --> 01:57:42,480
our findings.

2979
01:57:42,480 --> 01:57:44,709
>> Okay, thank you. Hi, thanks for having

2980
01:57:44,709 --> 01:57:44,719
» Okay, thank you. Hi, thanks for having

2981
01:57:44,719 --> 01:57:46,560
us. I just want to say that this is the

2982
01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:48,239
exciting part of our job. We really love

2983
01:57:48,239 --> 01:57:49,760
doing these. So I'm going to apologize

2984
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:51,440
now that I kind of nerded out and we

2985
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:53,280
have a lot of existing condition slides,

2986
01:57:53,280 --> 01:57:55,040
but in the interest of time, I'm going

2987
01:57:55,040 --> 01:57:56,639
to be very brief so I won't be as

2988
01:57:56,639 --> 01:57:58,639
eloquent as my fancy notes were

2989
01:57:58,639 --> 01:58:02,400
originally. Um so next slide please.

2990
01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:04,000
So what does the existing conditions

2991
01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:06,400
report include? Um it includes a wide

2992
01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:09,040
variety of topics. It's over 130 pages.

2993
01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:11,679
It's very very detailed. We have um we

2994
01:58:11,679 --> 01:58:14,239
use a variety of reliable sources. Um

2995
01:58:14,239 --> 01:58:16,239
the US census, the ChemC Gardener

2996
01:58:16,239 --> 01:58:19,199
Institute, uh their data book, city

2997
01:58:19,199 --> 01:58:21,760
data, um state data. So it's a very

2998
01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:23,199
comprehensive document that goes over

2999
01:58:23,199 --> 01:58:24,960
the development history of the area,

3000
01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:27,840
demographics, land use, zoning, housing,

3001
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:30,000
parks and wreck. really anything that

3002
01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:31,599
has to do with the city's function, it

3003
01:58:31,599 --> 01:58:34,480
it goes over. Um, so this this

3004
01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:35,840
presentation will just hit very quickly

3005
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:37,520
on some of these topics, but if you're

3006
01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:39,119
curious, you can get into the details in

3007
01:58:39,119 --> 01:58:41,280
the actual document. Uh, next slide,

3008
01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:42,800
please.

3009
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:46,320
So, as far as the plan area, um, this is

3010
01:58:46,320 --> 01:58:48,080
located in the central area of Salt Lake

3011
01:58:48,080 --> 01:58:49,599
City. It's approximately six square

3012
01:58:49,599 --> 01:58:52,639
miles and it's home to 51,000 about

3013
01:58:52,639 --> 01:58:55,520
51,000 residents or 25% of the city's

3014
01:58:55,520 --> 01:58:59,679
population. Um, you can see that

3015
01:58:59,679 --> 01:59:02,000
downtown in the original 2005 plan,

3016
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:04,400
downtown was included in the plan area,

3017
01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:05,920
but it's now been taken out because of

3018
01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:07,840
there is a downtown plan now. So, we

3019
01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:09,599
don't have that included. Um, next

3020
01:59:09,599 --> 01:59:11,840
slide.

3021
01:59:11,840 --> 01:59:13,599
As far as the boundaries, the plan

3022
01:59:13,599 --> 01:59:15,199
boundaries go from approximately South

3023
01:59:15,199 --> 01:59:18,400
Temple all the way down to 17th South on

3024
01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:20,239
the north and then it goes kind of juts

3025
01:59:20,239 --> 01:59:23,119
down to 2100 South and then from east to

3026
01:59:23,119 --> 01:59:25,119
west it goes from approximately 1300

3027
01:59:25,119 --> 01:59:27,679
east down to 200 east and then it juts

3028
01:59:27,679 --> 01:59:30,320
down to the freeway. And there are five

3029
01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:32,400
neighborhoods. These were identified in

3030
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:35,280
the 2005 plan. We've carried those over.

3031
01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:37,440
Um we are talking to the community about

3032
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:39,119
renaming them if these names are

3033
01:59:39,119 --> 01:59:40,560
appropriate. And we we have some

3034
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:42,480
received some feedback that we need to

3035
01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:46,719
make some changes. Uh next slide please.

3036
01:59:46,719 --> 01:59:48,719
Development periods. So this slide

3037
01:59:48,719 --> 01:59:50,159
illustrates how central community has

3038
01:59:50,159 --> 01:59:52,080
grown throughout time. It shows that the

3039
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:53,760
earliest development was a sharp

3040
01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:56,000
residential development. Um most of the

3041
01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:57,280
neighborhoods in this area were built

3042
01:59:57,280 --> 02:00:00,639
between 1880 and 1930. And then and

3043
02:00:00,639 --> 02:00:02,239
those are in the green and blue. And

3044
02:00:02,239 --> 02:00:04,400
then as time went on um you saw

3045
02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:06,560
commercial development and multif family

3046
02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:08,719
along our key corridors. So that's in

3047
02:00:08,719 --> 02:00:10,639
the orange and red and you can see along

3048
02:00:10,639 --> 02:00:12,960
400 south with tracks coming in that

3049
02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:15,440
encouraged new development in the late

3050
02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:17,679
um or early 21st century I mean and then

3051
02:00:17,679 --> 02:00:19,679
again along 300 west you can see that

3052
02:00:19,679 --> 02:00:23,280
new red and um orange development. Next

3053
02:00:23,280 --> 02:00:25,360
slide please.

3054
02:00:25,360 --> 02:00:27,760
Um I can't talk about development

3055
02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:29,199
without addressing redlinining and

3056
02:00:29,199 --> 02:00:31,360
equity. Um so in the mid- 20th century

3057
02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:33,520
I'm you guys are allware well aware but

3058
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:35,280
the federal government and private

3059
02:00:35,280 --> 02:00:36,480
lenders used a practice called

3060
02:00:36,480 --> 02:00:38,400
redlinining to designate which

3061
02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:40,639
neighborhoods were considered um safe

3062
02:00:40,639 --> 02:00:43,920
investments for mortgages and um what

3063
02:00:43,920 --> 02:00:46,000
neighborhoods were considered hazardous.

3064
02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:47,920
And this practice assigned higher risk

3065
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:50,000
to minority neighborhoods. they were

3066
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:52,480
labeled in D which is hazardous where

3067
02:00:52,480 --> 02:00:54,560
they were denied housing loans or C

3068
02:00:54,560 --> 02:00:57,119
which is definitely declining in yellow

3069
02:00:57,119 --> 02:00:58,719
um where they weren't fully denied loans

3070
02:00:58,719 --> 02:01:02,159
but they did receive less investment. Um

3071
02:01:02,159 --> 02:01:03,679
this is important to highlight because

3072
02:01:03,679 --> 02:01:06,080
of these patterns continue today. While

3073
02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:08,480
the practice was from the 1930s and 40s

3074
02:01:08,480 --> 02:01:10,719
approximately we still see these when we

3075
02:01:10,719 --> 02:01:12,960
look at demographic numbers like where

3076
02:01:12,960 --> 02:01:14,719
you see the red is where we see higher

3077
02:01:14,719 --> 02:01:16,800
poverty rates currently. So, it's just

3078
02:01:16,800 --> 02:01:18,800
something we want to acknowledge and um

3079
02:01:18,800 --> 02:01:20,960
make sure we're aware of moving forward.

3080
02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:23,199
Next slide, please.

3081
02:01:23,199 --> 02:01:24,560
And then the same goes for how the

3082
02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:25,840
community was shaped. We can't talk

3083
02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:27,760
about development without acknowledging

3084
02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:30,719
um how the construction of I-15 impacted

3085
02:01:30,719 --> 02:01:32,960
the neighborhood. Um this map is

3086
02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:35,199
interesting. If you look to the very

3087
02:01:35,199 --> 02:01:37,520
left of the map, there's some yellow

3088
02:01:37,520 --> 02:01:40,159
boxes. Um those might not that's not

3089
02:01:40,159 --> 02:01:41,760
where the freeway went through exactly.

3090
02:01:41,760 --> 02:01:43,679
that's along 300 West. But those homes

3091
02:01:43,679 --> 02:01:45,440
were subsequently demolished as an

3092
02:01:45,440 --> 02:01:47,920
impact of the freeway coming in and

3093
02:01:47,920 --> 02:01:49,119
changing the development pattern,

3094
02:01:49,119 --> 02:01:51,599
changing where investment went and um

3095
02:01:51,599 --> 02:01:53,599
contributing to that disinvestment there

3096
02:01:53,599 --> 02:01:56,400
while um investment went other places.

3097
02:01:56,400 --> 02:01:59,199
So next slide, please.

3098
02:01:59,199 --> 02:02:01,199
Urban form. This is just a quick one. It

3099
02:02:01,199 --> 02:02:02,960
just shows how as we had development

3100
02:02:02,960 --> 02:02:05,199
later like the earlier development was

3101
02:02:05,199 --> 02:02:06,960
smaller buildings and then as it come

3102
02:02:06,960 --> 02:02:08,159
later you have bigger building

3103
02:02:08,159 --> 02:02:09,920
footprints with larger open spaces and

3104
02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:11,760
parking lots around them. This just

3105
02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:13,920
highlights opportunities for um new

3106
02:02:13,920 --> 02:02:15,599
development where redevelopment could

3107
02:02:15,599 --> 02:02:19,599
possibly take place. Next slide.

3108
02:02:19,599 --> 02:02:21,440
Um population and growth. So as I

3109
02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:23,199
mentioned, Central Community is home to

3110
02:02:23,199 --> 02:02:25,920
25% of the city's total population.

3111
02:02:25,920 --> 02:02:28,159
Since 2010, the population has grown by

3112
02:02:28,159 --> 02:02:30,639
10%, but that growth hasn't been even.

3113
02:02:30,639 --> 02:02:33,119
Um you can see in the blue we've had an

3114
02:02:33,119 --> 02:02:34,719
increase in growth in the ballpark

3115
02:02:34,719 --> 02:02:37,199
neighborhood and central city but then

3116
02:02:37,199 --> 02:02:39,760
towards the souththeast plan boundary

3117
02:02:39,760 --> 02:02:42,719
we've had a decrease in growth. Um and I

3118
02:02:42,719 --> 02:02:43,920
actually think this is interesting

3119
02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:46,639
because of this those two red boxes on

3120
02:02:46,639 --> 02:02:48,159
the southeast corner are also where we

3121
02:02:48,159 --> 02:02:49,360
have the highest concentration of

3122
02:02:49,360 --> 02:02:52,320
children in the plan area. Um I don't

3123
02:02:52,320 --> 02:02:53,679
I'm still trying to figure out the tie

3124
02:02:53,679 --> 02:02:55,520
to that but where we've had the most um

3125
02:02:55,520 --> 02:02:56,880
population decrease is where we also

3126
02:02:56,880 --> 02:02:58,239
have the most children. So, it's kind of

3127
02:02:58,239 --> 02:02:59,760
interesting when you look at

3128
02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:01,679
demographics. The northern portion of

3129
02:03:01,679 --> 02:03:03,440
the plan area is where we see the most

3130
02:03:03,440 --> 02:03:05,599
college-aged children, college age,

3131
02:03:05,599 --> 02:03:08,800
they're no children, uh, residents. And

3132
02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:10,400
then, like I mentioned, the south part

3133
02:03:10,400 --> 02:03:12,320
is where we see the more families and,

3134
02:03:12,320 --> 02:03:15,599
uh, children. Next slide, please. Uh,

3135
02:03:15,599 --> 02:03:17,840
race and ethnicity. So, overall, the

3136
02:03:17,840 --> 02:03:19,520
centric community is less diverse in

3137
02:03:19,520 --> 02:03:21,440
Salt Lake City as a whole.

3138
02:03:21,440 --> 02:03:24,400
um both minorities comprising 25 27% of

3139
02:03:24,400 --> 02:03:26,719
the local population compared to 35%

3140
02:03:26,719 --> 02:03:29,440
citywide but this does vary between each

3141
02:03:29,440 --> 02:03:31,520
neighborhood with ballpark and um

3142
02:03:31,520 --> 02:03:33,520
central city have higher minority

3143
02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:35,679
population than the other neighborhoods.

3144
02:03:35,679 --> 02:03:38,159
Uh next slide please.

3145
02:03:38,159 --> 02:03:39,920
I won't explain zoning to you. You know

3146
02:03:39,920 --> 02:03:41,679
about that. But this just shows that

3147
02:03:41,679 --> 02:03:43,760
there is a wide variety of zoning um

3148
02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:46,159
designations in this plan area with the

3149
02:03:46,159 --> 02:03:48,080
purple is mixed use. We have the light

3150
02:03:48,080 --> 02:03:50,159
yellow is uh single family residential

3151
02:03:50,159 --> 02:03:52,639
and the oranges are our uh multif family

3152
02:03:52,639 --> 02:03:56,239
residential. Next slide.

3153
02:03:56,239 --> 02:03:58,080
Um as far as housing density, the

3154
02:03:58,080 --> 02:04:01,360
average density in the plan area is 12.7

3155
02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:03,520
units per acre. And this is higher than

3156
02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:06,080
the citywide average, which is 8.9 units

3157
02:04:06,080 --> 02:04:07,599
per acre when you take out central

3158
02:04:07,599 --> 02:04:10,639
community. And central city and east

3159
02:04:10,639 --> 02:04:12,159
central north have the highest density

3160
02:04:12,159 --> 02:04:14,960
in the plant area.

3161
02:04:14,960 --> 02:04:17,679
Next slide.

3162
02:04:17,679 --> 02:04:19,199
um housing types. So the majority of

3163
02:04:19,199 --> 02:04:21,520
housing types are multif family units um

3164
02:04:21,520 --> 02:04:23,360
which you can see in the dark blue. We

3165
02:04:23,360 --> 02:04:25,360
call them apartments on the slide and

3166
02:04:25,360 --> 02:04:27,520
then single family housing accounts for

3167
02:04:27,520 --> 02:04:29,760
a larger percentage of land area but a

3168
02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:31,520
large a smaller percentage of units

3169
02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:34,480
which probably isn't surprising. Um, I

3170
02:04:34,480 --> 02:04:35,840
think this map is really interesting

3171
02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:36,880
though because when you compare it to

3172
02:04:36,880 --> 02:04:38,560
the zoning on the previous slide,

3173
02:04:38,560 --> 02:04:40,719
especially that southeast portion, you

3174
02:04:40,719 --> 02:04:42,560
see swasts of yellow, which is single

3175
02:04:42,560 --> 02:04:44,960
family zoning, but in reality, you can

3176
02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:47,040
just see that it's a smattering or a

3177
02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:49,040
variety of duplexes, multif family

3178
02:04:49,040 --> 02:04:50,639
building, single family, and so the

3179
02:04:50,639 --> 02:04:51,920
zoning map doesn't really align with

3180
02:04:51,920 --> 02:04:54,239
what's on the ground. Next slide,

3181
02:04:54,239 --> 02:04:56,159
please.

3182
02:04:56,159 --> 02:04:57,840
So, income. So, this is where we start

3183
02:04:57,840 --> 02:04:59,199
to see a bigger difference between each

3184
02:04:59,199 --> 02:05:01,119
of those five neighborhoods. Um the

3185
02:05:01,119 --> 02:05:02,560
median household income in central

3186
02:05:02,560 --> 02:05:06,080
community is 63,000 almost almost 64,000

3187
02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:07,599
compared to the citywide average of

3188
02:05:07,599 --> 02:05:09,199
75,000.

3189
02:05:09,199 --> 02:05:11,360
Um but this varies widely across each

3190
02:05:11,360 --> 02:05:13,199
neighborhood. So, Central City, East

3191
02:05:13,199 --> 02:05:14,719
Central, and Ballpark all have an

3192
02:05:14,719 --> 02:05:18,159
average um income lower than 55,000 a

3193
02:05:18,159 --> 02:05:21,119
year, while East East Central South and

3194
02:05:21,119 --> 02:05:24,320
Liberty have higher incomes at $85,092,

3195
02:05:24,320 --> 02:05:28,239
which is almost 35 30,000 30 thou 30,000

3196
02:05:28,239 --> 02:05:30,400
more than the other neighborhoods. Um,

3197
02:05:30,400 --> 02:05:32,000
and then on top of that, the lower

3198
02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:34,320
median income, about 41% of households

3199
02:05:34,320 --> 02:05:36,560
earn less than $50,000 a year in the

3200
02:05:36,560 --> 02:05:38,480
central community. And so all of that

3201
02:05:38,480 --> 02:05:40,400
just leads to this chart which shows

3202
02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:41,920
that compared to the rest of Salt Lake,

3203
02:05:41,920 --> 02:05:43,520
a higher percentage of central community

3204
02:05:43,520 --> 02:05:45,440
residents live in poverty. And this

3205
02:05:45,440 --> 02:05:47,599
varies fairly significantly between each

3206
02:05:47,599 --> 02:05:49,119
of these communities where you can see

3207
02:05:49,119 --> 02:05:51,360
Central City and Ballpark have higher

3208
02:05:51,360 --> 02:05:53,119
percentages of youth poverty, senior

3209
02:05:53,119 --> 02:05:56,800
poverty, um and then uninsured.

3210
02:05:56,800 --> 02:05:59,199
Next slide, please.

3211
02:05:59,199 --> 02:06:01,280
Housing affordability. So that leads us

3212
02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:02,880
to the housing affordability session

3213
02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:05,119
where you know that if someone spends

3214
02:06:05,119 --> 02:06:07,280
more than 30% of their income, it means

3215
02:06:07,280 --> 02:06:08,960
they're cost burdened. Income on

3216
02:06:08,960 --> 02:06:10,800
housing, it means they're cost burdened.

3217
02:06:10,800 --> 02:06:13,520
Um the central community has about I

3218
02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:16,320
think it's 40 Yeah, 48% of renters are

3219
02:06:16,320 --> 02:06:17,920
considered cost burden. That's slightly

3220
02:06:17,920 --> 02:06:22,480
higher than um home owners. And you

3221
02:06:22,480 --> 02:06:23,599
probably can't see it very well, but I

3222
02:06:23,599 --> 02:06:24,639
just wanted to quickly point out this

3223
02:06:24,639 --> 02:06:27,199
cost burden scenario that shows that the

3224
02:06:27,199 --> 02:06:28,639
average price of a home in central

3225
02:06:28,639 --> 02:06:30,800
community, sorry, I have to look at it.

3226
02:06:30,800 --> 02:06:33,679
I was

3227
02:06:33,679 --> 02:06:36,079
470,000. Um, if someone was to put down

3228
02:06:36,079 --> 02:06:37,520
a down payment on that, we show two

3229
02:06:37,520 --> 02:06:39,280
different scenarios, they would need to

3230
02:06:39,280 --> 02:06:41,599
make at least 106,000 to afford that

3231
02:06:41,599 --> 02:06:43,199
home. And when you think that the

3232
02:06:43,199 --> 02:06:46,480
average income is 60, almost 64,000 and

3233
02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:48,880
in ballpark it's only 55,000. That just

3234
02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:51,040
shows how unattainable it is to buy a

3235
02:06:51,040 --> 02:06:53,760
home in the central community area. Next

3236
02:06:53,760 --> 02:06:56,239
slide, please.

3237
02:06:56,239 --> 02:06:58,560
Um transportation just um there's a wide

3238
02:06:58,560 --> 02:07:00,960
variety of artiller roads. Central

3239
02:07:00,960 --> 02:07:02,560
community has the most artiller roads of

3240
02:07:02,560 --> 02:07:05,679
any plan area. Um active transportation

3241
02:07:05,679 --> 02:07:08,000
also has a wide and robust active

3242
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:11,360
transportation system. Um as far as bus

3243
02:07:11,360 --> 02:07:13,679
routes, goodness, I should get my eyes

3244
02:07:13,679 --> 02:07:16,733
checked. I cannot see. Sorry. [laughter]

3245
02:07:16,733 --> 02:07:18,400
[gasps] Um

3246
02:07:18,400 --> 02:07:20,639
I know. I'm like, whoa, this is getting

3247
02:07:20,639 --> 02:07:23,360
scary for me. But 93% of households are

3248
02:07:23,360 --> 02:07:27,440
within a fourth mile of a um bus stop.

3249
02:07:27,440 --> 02:07:29,679
And then 26% of households are within a

3250
02:07:29,679 --> 02:07:31,599
fourth mile of a transit stop. And you

3251
02:07:31,599 --> 02:07:34,079
can see those um from the transit stops,

3252
02:07:34,079 --> 02:07:37,679
those bubbles that surround them. All

3253
02:07:37,679 --> 02:07:40,079
right, next slide, please.

3254
02:07:40,079 --> 02:07:42,159
Um so, as far as parks and wreck, the

3255
02:07:42,159 --> 02:07:43,840
central community has the lowest park

3256
02:07:43,840 --> 02:07:45,760
access of any planning area in Salt Lake

3257
02:07:45,760 --> 02:07:48,560
City. And we looked at this not just um

3258
02:07:48,560 --> 02:07:50,800
number of acres per per person but also

3259
02:07:50,800 --> 02:07:53,040
as walkability and it's the lowest on

3260
02:07:53,040 --> 02:07:54,400
both of those. So there are major

3261
02:07:54,400 --> 02:07:56,880
barriers to transportation um to parks

3262
02:07:56,880 --> 02:07:59,119
because there's so many large corridors

3263
02:07:59,119 --> 02:08:02,079
like 700 East State Street, 400 South um

3264
02:08:02,079 --> 02:08:03,679
and then it while the map it might

3265
02:08:03,679 --> 02:08:05,440
appear that there are lots of parks as

3266
02:08:05,440 --> 02:08:07,679
far as the number goes, the acreage does

3267
02:08:07,679 --> 02:08:10,000
not um they're all pretty small besides

3268
02:08:10,000 --> 02:08:12,480
Liberty Park. So that acreage doesn't uh

3269
02:08:12,480 --> 02:08:13,920
or the number doesn't make up for the

3270
02:08:13,920 --> 02:08:16,159
small acreage. Um, so overall there's

3271
02:08:16,159 --> 02:08:18,239
just a gap in both park acorage and park

3272
02:08:18,239 --> 02:08:19,760
accessibility.

3273
02:08:19,760 --> 02:08:21,920
Next slide.

3274
02:08:21,920 --> 02:08:23,520
And then I wanted to end with public art

3275
02:08:23,520 --> 02:08:25,040
because this is a huge asset for the

3276
02:08:25,040 --> 02:08:26,960
central community. Um, I think of any

3277
02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:28,480
planet area they probably have the most

3278
02:08:28,480 --> 02:08:30,800
public art. It was brought up many times

3279
02:08:30,800 --> 02:08:33,840
in our um, outreach. People are very

3280
02:08:33,840 --> 02:08:35,040
proud of it and it's something that we

3281
02:08:35,040 --> 02:08:36,960
wanted to highlight that it's a big um,

3282
02:08:36,960 --> 02:08:38,880
contributing factor for why people

3283
02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:41,360
identify and love this area. All right,

3284
02:08:41,360 --> 02:08:44,790
next slide.

3285
02:08:44,800 --> 02:08:46,480
Thanks, Chrissy. So, now I'll just give

3286
02:08:46,480 --> 02:08:48,320
a quick overview of where we've been in

3287
02:08:48,320 --> 02:08:50,079
the process, what we're doing to engage

3288
02:08:50,079 --> 02:08:52,000
the community, and what we've been

3289
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:53,679
hearing so far, and where we're heading

3290
02:08:53,679 --> 02:08:56,159
next. Um, engagement is still ongoing

3291
02:08:56,159 --> 02:08:57,760
throughout the process. So, these are

3292
02:08:57,760 --> 02:09:00,800
just early themes that we've heard. Um,

3293
02:09:00,800 --> 02:09:03,840
next slide.

3294
02:09:03,840 --> 02:09:07,440
So far, we've had 15 inerson engagement

3295
02:09:07,440 --> 02:09:10,000
events, 11 stakeholder interviews, two

3296
02:09:10,000 --> 02:09:12,560
commission briefings, two open houses,

3297
02:09:12,560 --> 02:09:14,639
six popups, and three community council

3298
02:09:14,639 --> 02:09:16,639
meetings. And we're hitting the two

3299
02:09:16,639 --> 02:09:18,880
other community council meetings next

3300
02:09:18,880 --> 02:09:21,920
month month. Um, we've had many visits

3301
02:09:21,920 --> 02:09:24,320
to the project website. Um, one thing

3302
02:09:24,320 --> 02:09:26,079
we've been trying to do is meet people

3303
02:09:26,079 --> 02:09:28,079
where they are at coffee shops,

3304
02:09:28,079 --> 02:09:29,760
neighborhood breakfast joints,

3305
02:09:29,760 --> 02:09:32,159
festivals, and community events instead

3306
02:09:32,159 --> 02:09:35,199
of expecting them to come to us. Um, as

3307
02:09:35,199 --> 02:09:36,639
I mentioned, engagement is still

3308
02:09:36,639 --> 02:09:39,540
ongoing. Um, the excuse me,

3309
02:09:39,540 --> 02:09:40,880
[clears throat] the survey will be

3310
02:09:40,880 --> 02:09:43,360
remain open throughout the fall and we

3311
02:09:43,360 --> 02:09:45,440
have additional events planned through

3312
02:09:45,440 --> 02:09:48,694
August and September. Um, next slide.

3313
02:09:48,694 --> 02:09:51,030
[cough]

3314
02:09:51,040 --> 02:09:53,280
So, um, where have we been? Um early

3315
02:09:53,280 --> 02:09:55,199
outreach started in February. We went to

3316
02:09:55,199 --> 02:09:56,880
Clayton Middle School's career day,

3317
02:09:56,880 --> 02:10:00,239
continuing through um Youth City Living

3318
02:10:00,239 --> 02:10:02,480
Tradition and Jefferson Jams. In June

3319
02:10:02,480 --> 02:10:05,679
and July, we held popups. Um as I

3320
02:10:05,679 --> 02:10:07,199
mentioned, we presented at the community

3321
02:10:07,199 --> 02:10:09,920
council meetings, had our open houses.

3322
02:10:09,920 --> 02:10:12,719
We also presented uh a similar briefing

3323
02:10:12,719 --> 02:10:14,480
to the planning commission and historic

3324
02:10:14,480 --> 02:10:17,840
landmark commission. Next slide.

3325
02:10:17,840 --> 02:10:21,040
So, what have we been hearing? Um, so

3326
02:10:21,040 --> 02:10:22,719
when residents were asked what they love

3327
02:10:22,719 --> 02:10:24,560
about Central Community, many mentioned

3328
02:10:24,560 --> 02:10:26,079
the strong sense of community,

3329
02:10:26,079 --> 02:10:28,880
walkability, and bikeability, residents

3330
02:10:28,880 --> 02:10:30,639
talked about the nine line, Liberty

3331
02:10:30,639 --> 02:10:32,960
Park, the neighborhood proximity to

3332
02:10:32,960 --> 02:10:35,440
downtown. Um, they also highlighted the

3333
02:10:35,440 --> 02:10:37,599
tree canopy, historic homes, and the

3334
02:10:37,599 --> 02:10:40,079
variety of the architecture. Um, many

3335
02:10:40,079 --> 02:10:42,079
appreciate the locally owned businesses

3336
02:10:42,079 --> 02:10:44,480
instead of chains and spoke about the

3337
02:10:44,480 --> 02:10:46,320
people, students, neighbors who look out

3338
02:10:46,320 --> 02:10:48,719
for one another and kids who can walk to

3339
02:10:48,719 --> 02:10:51,679
a friend's house. Um, more more than one

3340
02:10:51,679 --> 02:10:53,520
resident simply said it's just the best

3341
02:10:53,520 --> 02:10:57,679
place to live in the city. Next slide.

3342
02:10:57,679 --> 02:11:00,320
Um, so what we've heard about housing,

3343
02:11:00,320 --> 02:11:02,159
um, on housing, many participants

3344
02:11:02,159 --> 02:11:04,000
mentioned missing middle housing,

3345
02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:07,040
duplexes, triplexes, town homes, ADUs,

3346
02:11:07,040 --> 02:11:08,960
small apartment buildings, um, with

3347
02:11:08,960 --> 02:11:12,320
mixeduse shops nearby. Um, residents did

3348
02:11:12,320 --> 02:11:14,400
point to vacant sites and suggested

3349
02:11:14,400 --> 02:11:16,320
reusing older buildings rather than

3350
02:11:16,320 --> 02:11:19,280
demolishing them. Um, affordability, as

3351
02:11:19,280 --> 02:11:21,040
we mentioned, has been a recurring

3352
02:11:21,040 --> 02:11:23,360
theme. There's a want for familysiz

3353
02:11:23,360 --> 02:11:25,840
unit, more ownership on opportunities

3354
02:11:25,840 --> 02:11:28,800
like condos. Um at the same time, those

3355
02:11:28,800 --> 02:11:30,639
who supported more housing also raised

3356
02:11:30,639 --> 02:11:32,239
concerns about large apartment

3357
02:11:32,239 --> 02:11:35,280
buildings, traffic, design, quality. Um

3358
02:11:35,280 --> 02:11:38,159
these comments um as discussed are you

3359
02:11:38,159 --> 02:11:40,560
know what kind of what we expected. Um

3360
02:11:40,560 --> 02:11:42,719
next slide.

3361
02:11:42,719 --> 02:11:44,639
For transportation, residents describe

3362
02:11:44,639 --> 02:11:46,480
major roads as barriers between

3363
02:11:46,480 --> 02:11:48,560
neighborhoods and asked for traffic

3364
02:11:48,560 --> 02:11:50,560
calming and safer crossings at these

3365
02:11:50,560 --> 02:11:53,040
corridors, plus more direct north south

3366
02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:55,920
connections into downtown. Um transit

3367
02:11:55,920 --> 02:11:59,199
came up as um infrequent, sometimes slow

3368
02:11:59,199 --> 02:12:02,320
and expensive. Um for biking, um

3369
02:12:02,320 --> 02:12:04,159
residents were asking for protected bike

3370
02:12:04,159 --> 02:12:05,679
lanes, better bike parking at

3371
02:12:05,679 --> 02:12:07,920
businesses, and keeping the existing

3372
02:12:07,920 --> 02:12:12,239
lanes unobstructed. Next slide.

3373
02:12:12,239 --> 02:12:14,320
For parks and open space, residents

3374
02:12:14,320 --> 02:12:16,880
requested more park tree shade as well

3375
02:12:16,880 --> 02:12:20,000
as larger plazas, gathering spaces, and

3376
02:12:20,000 --> 02:12:21,920
community gardens. They also wanted

3377
02:12:21,920 --> 02:12:23,440
green infrastructure, water wise

3378
02:12:23,440 --> 02:12:25,440
landscaping that follow the growing

3379
02:12:25,440 --> 02:12:27,679
water smart guidelines. Um, shade has

3380
02:12:27,679 --> 02:12:30,000
been mentioned often both for comfort

3381
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:31,840
and making walking easier during the

3382
02:12:31,840 --> 02:12:34,239
summer. Um, ballpark and central city

3383
02:12:34,239 --> 02:12:36,320
were named as top priorities for new

3384
02:12:36,320 --> 02:12:38,639
parkland and tree canopy. Several

3385
02:12:38,639 --> 02:12:40,480
residents also said that maintaining

3386
02:12:40,480 --> 02:12:43,360
existing parks um was very important

3387
02:12:43,360 --> 02:12:45,520
rather than building new ones. Next

3388
02:12:45,520 --> 02:12:47,760
slide.

3389
02:12:47,760 --> 02:12:50,320
Um what we've heard on public safety um

3390
02:12:50,320 --> 02:12:52,480
centers on homelessness, drug activity,

3391
02:12:52,480 --> 02:12:55,360
and property crime. Some participants

3392
02:12:55,360 --> 02:12:57,360
reported feeling unsafe in parks while

3393
02:12:57,360 --> 02:12:59,440
walking. Um I do want to highlight the

3394
02:12:59,440 --> 02:13:02,560
great work that our park rangers do. Um

3395
02:13:02,560 --> 02:13:06,320
I think that's a little bit um of an

3396
02:13:06,320 --> 02:13:08,159
education thing for our community that

3397
02:13:08,159 --> 02:13:10,079
they are out there. Um Central City

3398
02:13:10,079 --> 02:13:11,920
Ballpark and Liberty Park came up most

3399
02:13:11,920 --> 02:13:14,480
often. Um several expressed a desire for

3400
02:13:14,480 --> 02:13:17,360
services to be distributed more evenly.

3401
02:13:17,360 --> 02:13:20,159
Next slide.

3402
02:13:20,159 --> 02:13:22,639
Um so so to close what we've heard about

3403
02:13:22,639 --> 02:13:24,719
in for this plan area for neighborhood

3404
02:13:24,719 --> 02:13:27,760
and community is um residents want to

3405
02:13:27,760 --> 02:13:29,599
preserve their community character, the

3406
02:13:29,599 --> 02:13:32,079
area's diversity, historic homes, and

3407
02:13:32,079 --> 02:13:33,599
support long-term residents and

3408
02:13:33,599 --> 02:13:36,159
familyfriendly neighborhoods. Um there's

3409
02:13:36,159 --> 02:13:38,079
a clear desire for more neighborhood

3410
02:13:38,079 --> 02:13:41,199
serving businesses. Every um everyday

3411
02:13:41,199 --> 02:13:43,840
needs within walking distance uh walking

3412
02:13:43,840 --> 02:13:45,920
distance and a preferences for local

3413
02:13:45,920 --> 02:13:47,679
businesses.

3414
02:13:47,679 --> 02:13:50,480
Um, we, as Chrissy mentioned, we've

3415
02:13:50,480 --> 02:13:51,679
heard some confusion about the

3416
02:13:51,679 --> 02:13:53,040
neighborhood name. So, we'll be looking

3417
02:13:53,040 --> 02:13:56,880
at that um, in our future engagement.

3418
02:13:56,880 --> 02:14:00,000
Um, next slide.

3419
02:14:00,000 --> 02:14:02,320
Um, so, as mentioned several times,

3420
02:14:02,320 --> 02:14:03,840
engagement will continue throughout the

3421
02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:06,239
plan update. Um, we were at J&J Coffee

3422
02:14:06,239 --> 02:14:08,079
this morning. We'll be at Liberty

3423
02:14:08,079 --> 02:14:10,400
Heights Fresh later this month. In

3424
02:14:10,400 --> 02:14:12,239
August, we're partnering with Hill Utah

3425
02:14:12,239 --> 02:14:15,040
on a a ballpark walk audit along with

3426
02:14:15,040 --> 02:14:16,960
the community photo walk in Liberty

3427
02:14:16,960 --> 02:14:19,920
Park. Um we hope that will kick off um

3428
02:14:19,920 --> 02:14:22,239
the through your lens community photo

3429
02:14:22,239 --> 02:14:25,599
contest. Um and as mentioned, we'll be m

3430
02:14:25,599 --> 02:14:27,599
meeting with the remaining two community

3431
02:14:27,599 --> 02:14:30,480
councils. Um we hope to wrap up some of

3432
02:14:30,480 --> 02:14:32,480
our engagement in September at the

3433
02:14:32,480 --> 02:14:34,560
backyard film bash in the 9inth and 9th

3434
02:14:34,560 --> 02:14:37,679
Street Festival. Um, the photo contest

3435
02:14:37,679 --> 02:14:39,360
is just another way for people to share

3436
02:14:39,360 --> 02:14:41,360
their perspectives on the neighborhood.

3437
02:14:41,360 --> 02:14:43,760
Um, it's also cross language barrier.

3438
02:14:43,760 --> 02:14:45,840
Um, anyone can submit a photo. It's

3439
02:14:45,840 --> 02:14:48,000
pretty easy on your phone. Um, they can

3440
02:14:48,000 --> 02:14:49,520
submit their photos showing what they

3441
02:14:49,520 --> 02:14:51,440
love, um, how they get around or how

3442
02:14:51,440 --> 02:14:53,440
they'd like to see the community to grow

3443
02:14:53,440 --> 02:14:55,119
and then we'll display those photos at

3444
02:14:55,119 --> 02:14:57,599
the backyard fil bash and hopefully some

3445
02:14:57,599 --> 02:14:59,119
of them will be featured in the final

3446
02:14:59,119 --> 02:15:01,599
plan. Um, so the community's own photos

3447
02:15:01,599 --> 02:15:03,280
and thoughts will help tell the story of

3448
02:15:03,280 --> 02:15:06,159
the plan. Um so with that we welcome

3449
02:15:06,159 --> 02:15:07,360
council [clears throat] members at any

3450
02:15:07,360 --> 02:15:09,119
of these events and if there are any

3451
02:15:09,119 --> 02:15:10,639
community or groups events that you

3452
02:15:10,639 --> 02:15:12,800
think we should connect with um please

3453
02:15:12,800 --> 02:15:15,440
let us know. Next slide.

3454
02:15:15,440 --> 02:15:18,310
>> Council member Council Carlson.

3455
02:15:18,310 --> 02:15:18,320
» Council member Council Carlson.

3456
02:15:18,320 --> 02:15:22,310
>> Um I just want to say a profound thank

3457
02:15:22,310 --> 02:15:22,320
» Um I just want to say a profound thank

3458
02:15:22,320 --> 02:15:24,560
you for the robust community engagement

3459
02:15:24,560 --> 02:15:27,520
you've done on this plan. Um, you had

3460
02:15:27,520 --> 02:15:29,360
some slides that said where have where

3461
02:15:29,360 --> 02:15:31,920
you've been and I think you should those

3462
02:15:31,920 --> 02:15:33,920
should be where haven't you been because

3463
02:15:33,920 --> 02:15:36,639
you have been literally everywhere and

3464
02:15:36,639 --> 02:15:38,480
I've seen you out in the community

3465
02:15:38,480 --> 02:15:40,480
whether it's uh neighborhood spots,

3466
02:15:40,480 --> 02:15:42,880
community council meetings, other popup

3467
02:15:42,880 --> 02:15:46,079
opportunities. You have um taken

3468
02:15:46,079 --> 02:15:48,320
community engagement above and beyond on

3469
02:15:48,320 --> 02:15:50,800
this plan and I'm deeply appreciative of

3470
02:15:50,800 --> 02:15:52,880
your creativity and your approach to

3471
02:15:52,880 --> 02:15:54,400
ensuring community voices are

3472
02:15:54,400 --> 02:15:55,840
represented in it. and it's a lot of

3473
02:15:55,840 --> 02:15:58,159
hard work and a lot of long hours. It's

3474
02:15:58,159 --> 02:16:00,159
not during the traditional 8 to five

3475
02:16:00,159 --> 02:16:02,000
workday. So, thank you for your your

3476
02:16:02,000 --> 02:16:03,920
work and efforts to elevate community

3477
02:16:03,920 --> 02:16:05,199
voices.

3478
02:16:05,199 --> 02:16:07,109
>> Thank you. We appreciate that.

3479
02:16:07,109 --> 02:16:07,119
» Thank you. We appreciate that.

3480
02:16:07,119 --> 02:16:09,270
>> Um the next thing and I had an

3481
02:16:09,270 --> 02:16:09,280
» Um the next thing and I had an

3482
02:16:09,280 --> 02:16:11,520
opportunity to to weigh in on this plan

3483
02:16:11,520 --> 02:16:13,360
and have seen you as I've talked about

3484
02:16:13,360 --> 02:16:15,280
on the road at the different community

3485
02:16:15,280 --> 02:16:18,639
events. Um, but I just wanted to really

3486
02:16:18,639 --> 02:16:21,119
uh express my appreciation also for you

3487
02:16:21,119 --> 02:16:25,199
including um redlinining uh and the

3488
02:16:25,199 --> 02:16:27,119
historical nature and the ways in which

3489
02:16:27,119 --> 02:16:28,800
that denied access to certain

3490
02:16:28,800 --> 02:16:31,760
communities to social and economic

3491
02:16:31,760 --> 02:16:35,439
mobility and to just really name that

3492
02:16:35,439 --> 02:16:38,160
the past influences the present and now

3493
02:16:38,160 --> 02:16:39,760
with this plan we're having a

3494
02:16:39,760 --> 02:16:42,719
conversation with the future. And so I

3495
02:16:42,719 --> 02:16:44,639
want to just continue to emphasize that

3496
02:16:44,639 --> 02:16:47,280
we have an opportunity to write some

3497
02:16:47,280 --> 02:16:49,359
historical wrongs as we imagine the

3498
02:16:49,359 --> 02:16:52,080
future of uh central community over the

3499
02:16:52,080 --> 02:16:54,880
next 15 years. But other than those two

3500
02:16:54,880 --> 02:16:56,800
things, I just want to again say thank

3501
02:16:56,800 --> 02:16:58,880
you for all your hard work on this. And

3502
02:16:58,880 --> 02:17:00,399
it's hard to believe you're just really

3503
02:17:00,399 --> 02:17:04,870
getting started.

3504
02:17:04,880 --> 02:17:07,200
» Council members.

3505
02:17:07,200 --> 02:17:12,080
Okay. I wanted to um thank uh the work

3506
02:17:12,080 --> 02:17:16,000
uh this this type of uh plans and and uh

3507
02:17:16,000 --> 02:17:17,920
visioning for the future, understanding

3508
02:17:17,920 --> 02:17:19,519
the the challenges that we have on the

3509
02:17:19,519 --> 02:17:21,599
ground, the realities that we we have to

3510
02:17:21,599 --> 02:17:25,599
work with. Um uh just help us a lot uh

3511
02:17:25,599 --> 02:17:28,319
and and in implementing policies that

3512
02:17:28,319 --> 02:17:29,920
impact our community. So, thank you for

3513
02:17:29,920 --> 02:17:33,120
the work. Um I I wish we could make some

3514
02:17:33,120 --> 02:17:34,559
of these plans available in our own

3515
02:17:34,559 --> 02:17:36,960
pages and you know individual console

3516
02:17:36,960 --> 02:17:39,280
pages for you know much like the

3517
02:17:39,280 --> 02:17:42,399
discussion earlier on the item before um

3518
02:17:42,399 --> 02:17:43,920
for the community when they search for

3519
02:17:43,920 --> 02:17:46,319
us they can access some of this like

3520
02:17:46,319 --> 02:17:48,160
basic information that is actually so

3521
02:17:48,160 --> 02:17:49,840
useful when it's put together like this.

3522
02:17:49,840 --> 02:17:52,319
So, thank you all

3523
02:17:52,319 --> 02:17:53,359
seen.

3524
02:17:53,359 --> 02:17:54,309
>> Oh, yes.

3525
02:17:54,309 --> 02:17:54,319
» Oh, yes.

3526
02:17:54,319 --> 02:17:57,830
>> I want to thank you as well. Um I love

3527
02:17:57,830 --> 02:17:57,840
» I want to thank you as well. Um I love

3528
02:17:57,840 --> 02:17:59,599
how you're integrating this with

3529
02:17:59,599 --> 02:18:03,040
previous plans. That's not an easy task

3530
02:18:03,040 --> 02:18:05,760
as you know. So, um thank you for doing

3531
02:18:05,760 --> 02:18:08,160
uh the heavy lifting on that. It's much

3532
02:18:08,160 --> 02:18:10,399
appreciated.

3533
02:18:10,399 --> 02:18:12,070
>> Thank you so much for the work and the

3534
02:18:12,070 --> 02:18:12,080
» Thank you so much for the work and the

3535
02:18:12,080 --> 02:18:14,080
presentation. Council members, we're

3536
02:18:14,080 --> 02:18:17,120
going to keep on uh taking a break now.

3537
02:18:17,120 --> 02:18:22,000
Um so we are going to uh re-engage at

3538
02:18:22,000 --> 02:18:23,920
4:40.

3539
02:18:23,920 --> 02:18:54,960
So 20 minute break, 19 minute break.

3540
02:18:54,970 --> 02:19:02,166
» [music]

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>> [music]

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[music]

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hey, hey. [music]

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» [music]

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[music]

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» Hey,

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[music]

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honey.

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» Hey. Hey. Hey.

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[music]

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» [music]

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» Heat.

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» Heat.

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02:33:51,676 --> 02:33:57,561
[music]

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» [music]

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[music]

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02:36:36,800 --> 02:36:44,588
>> Heat. Heat.

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02:36:44,598 --> 02:36:50,483
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02:37:51,680 --> 02:37:55,984
>> Hey,

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02:37:55,994 --> 02:38:03,510
[music]

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02:38:03,520 --> 02:38:05,819
hey,

3588
02:38:05,819 --> 02:38:06,880
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hey.

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» [music]

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[music]

3592
02:38:52,000 --> 02:38:54,560
» moving on to the agenda. Um, now we are

3593
02:38:54,560 --> 02:38:56,640
back to item number seven. This is

3594
02:38:56,640 --> 02:38:59,120
anformational item for affordable

3595
02:38:59,120 --> 02:39:01,840
housing incentives two-year report.

3596
02:39:01,840 --> 02:39:03,840
We're gonna welcome Nick Norris,

3597
02:39:03,840 --> 02:39:05,680
planning director, and Allison Roland,

3598
02:39:05,680 --> 02:39:08,319
our council policy analyst.

3599
02:39:08,319 --> 02:39:10,399
Welcome.

3600
02:39:10,399 --> 02:39:13,270
>> Thank you, Mr. Chair.

3601
02:39:13,270 --> 02:39:13,280
» Thank you, Mr. Chair.

3602
02:39:13,280 --> 02:39:16,720
This item is a about the affordable

3603
02:39:16,720 --> 02:39:19,280
housing incentives report. When the

3604
02:39:19,280 --> 02:39:21,680
council first

3605
02:39:21,680 --> 02:39:23,280
uh approved the affordable housing

3606
02:39:23,280 --> 02:39:25,840
incentives or AHI ordinance, you

3607
02:39:25,840 --> 02:39:29,280
requested a report be report on the

3608
02:39:29,280 --> 02:39:31,840
policy's implementation be provided

3609
02:39:31,840 --> 02:39:33,520
after two years. And since it was

3610
02:39:33,520 --> 02:39:35,680
approved at the end of 2023, two years

3611
02:39:35,680 --> 02:39:37,840
have passed. Uh [clears throat] but

3612
02:39:37,840 --> 02:39:39,280
before we get to that, I want to provide

3613
02:39:39,280 --> 02:39:41,680
a little bit of context for the two new

3614
02:39:41,680 --> 02:39:44,720
uh council members. you you already know

3615
02:39:44,720 --> 02:39:46,640
that the city provides a variety of

3616
02:39:46,640 --> 02:39:49,280
financial incentives for developers to

3617
02:39:49,280 --> 02:39:50,880
include affordable housing units in

3618
02:39:50,880 --> 02:39:52,800
their projects and most of these

3619
02:39:52,800 --> 02:39:54,880
incentives of these kinds of incentives

3620
02:39:54,880 --> 02:39:57,359
are channeled through the community

3621
02:39:57,359 --> 02:39:59,520
redevelopment agency. I almost called it

3622
02:39:59,520 --> 02:40:03,680
the RDA but it's a CRA. The affordable

3623
02:40:03,680 --> 02:40:06,479
housing in uh incentives policy uses

3624
02:40:06,479 --> 02:40:08,560
several additional kinds of incentives

3625
02:40:08,560 --> 02:40:10,319
to promote the same goal of increasing

3626
02:40:10,319 --> 02:40:12,640
the number of affordable housing units.

3627
02:40:12,640 --> 02:40:14,479
These incentives include changes to

3628
02:40:14,479 --> 02:40:16,160
certain aspects of the city's zoning

3629
02:40:16,160 --> 02:40:18,479
ordinances and streamlining the plan

3630
02:40:18,479 --> 02:40:20,479
approval process that developers must go

3631
02:40:20,479 --> 02:40:21,840
through before they can begin

3632
02:40:21,840 --> 02:40:23,359
construction.

3633
02:40:23,359 --> 02:40:25,680
So Nick Norris is here to go into more

3634
02:40:25,680 --> 02:40:27,439
detail on the affordable housing

3635
02:40:27,439 --> 02:40:29,760
incentive changes in his presentation

3636
02:40:29,760 --> 02:40:31,600
and he also includes some new data that

3637
02:40:31,600 --> 02:40:33,040
wasn't available at the time of the

3638
02:40:33,040 --> 02:40:35,200
transmitt. There are also some policy

3639
02:40:35,200 --> 02:40:37,200
questions as usual in your staff report

3640
02:40:37,200 --> 02:40:40,880
that you could look over for uh your

3641
02:40:40,880 --> 02:40:43,439
interest. Thank you.

3642
02:40:43,439 --> 02:40:46,150
>> All right. Thank you. Um, and just to

3643
02:40:46,150 --> 02:40:46,160
» All right. Thank you. Um, and just to

3644
02:40:46,160 --> 02:40:48,560
add on to that, the intent of the

3645
02:40:48,560 --> 02:40:50,240
affordable housing incentives was to use

3646
02:40:50,240 --> 02:40:52,000
zoning to incentivize the creation of

3647
02:40:52,000 --> 02:40:54,399
afford affordable housing in two

3648
02:40:54,399 --> 02:40:57,920
different ways. One was to make it so

3649
02:40:57,920 --> 02:41:01,120
that uh public dollars, whether they're

3650
02:41:01,120 --> 02:41:03,359
city, state, or federal dollars, were

3651
02:41:03,359 --> 02:41:07,359
capable of either um producing more

3652
02:41:07,359 --> 02:41:10,319
affordable housing units or more deeply

3653
02:41:10,319 --> 02:41:12,479
affordable housing units, which we all

3654
02:41:12,479 --> 02:41:16,640
know are the hardest to um realize. And

3655
02:41:16,640 --> 02:41:18,960
then two was to shorten the approval

3656
02:41:18,960 --> 02:41:20,640
times so that affordable housing

3657
02:41:20,640 --> 02:41:24,080
projects weren't being delayed by longer

3658
02:41:24,080 --> 02:41:26,399
uh land use approvals like design review

3659
02:41:26,399 --> 02:41:28,479
or plan developments

3660
02:41:28,479 --> 02:41:30,560
um so that it was easier for them to

3661
02:41:30,560 --> 02:41:32,720
align their funding approvals with their

3662
02:41:32,720 --> 02:41:34,000
city approvals which are usually

3663
02:41:34,000 --> 02:41:36,800
required before they can get uh their

3664
02:41:36,800 --> 02:41:38,720
funding. So if you can go to the next

3665
02:41:38,720 --> 02:41:41,120
slide.

3666
02:41:41,120 --> 02:41:42,960
Um, so this is basically what the

3667
02:41:42,960 --> 02:41:45,120
council asked us to do uh when this was

3668
02:41:45,120 --> 02:41:47,200
adopted and we chose two years from when

3669
02:41:47,200 --> 02:41:49,600
it became effective which was in April

3670
02:41:49,600 --> 02:41:55,590
of 2024. Um, next slide.

3671
02:41:55,600 --> 02:41:57,840
So these we're going to start by just

3672
02:41:57,840 --> 02:41:59,200
talking about some of the stats

3673
02:41:59,200 --> 02:42:00,800
associated with what's been submitted

3674
02:42:00,800 --> 02:42:02,880
and asked of of the city. And so most of

3675
02:42:02,880 --> 02:42:05,840
this data is as of March 15, 2026

3676
02:42:05,840 --> 02:42:07,280
because that's when we put this report

3677
02:42:07,280 --> 02:42:11,840
together. Um it will have changed um

3678
02:42:11,840 --> 02:42:15,520
since then, but um we've had a total of

3679
02:42:15,520 --> 02:42:17,280
32

3680
02:42:17,280 --> 02:42:19,920
uh property owners apply for to utilize

3681
02:42:19,920 --> 02:42:23,120
the affordable housing incentives. Um 13

3682
02:42:23,120 --> 02:42:25,200
of those, as you can see, have been

3683
02:42:25,200 --> 02:42:28,560
withdrawn. Um and then you can see the

3684
02:42:28,560 --> 02:42:31,359
status of of those. So there's there's a

3685
02:42:31,359 --> 02:42:33,920
three-step process here. So once

3686
02:42:33,920 --> 02:42:36,720
something's submitted, we do our initial

3687
02:42:36,720 --> 02:42:38,319
review to make sure we have all of the

3688
02:42:38,319 --> 02:42:39,840
required information. That seems like

3689
02:42:39,840 --> 02:42:41,840
it's giving a weird feedback on the

3690
02:42:41,840 --> 02:42:45,439
microphone, but um and then from there

3691
02:42:45,439 --> 02:42:47,520
we grant what's we call preliminary

3692
02:42:47,520 --> 02:42:50,000
approval, and that is essentially

3693
02:42:50,000 --> 02:42:51,840
acknowledging what you've submitted

3694
02:42:51,840 --> 02:42:54,880
complies with our regulations.

3695
02:42:54,880 --> 02:42:57,680
Um most depending on the type of

3696
02:42:57,680 --> 02:43:00,960
incentive used, there would be a final

3697
02:43:00,960 --> 02:43:03,680
approval. So if they need a modification

3698
02:43:03,680 --> 02:43:06,000
to a standard in our zoning code which

3699
02:43:06,000 --> 02:43:08,880
is authorized as part of the incentives

3700
02:43:08,880 --> 02:43:11,120
final approval document those approvals

3701
02:43:11,120 --> 02:43:14,240
in place uh and then they can submit or

3702
02:43:14,240 --> 02:43:15,680
then they can proceed with building

3703
02:43:15,680 --> 02:43:17,680
permit processes. So, as you can see

3704
02:43:17,680 --> 02:43:21,200
here, um, we've had a total of, you

3705
02:43:21,200 --> 02:43:24,000
know, a little over,300 total dwellings

3706
02:43:24,000 --> 02:43:26,240
in the projects that have utilized the

3707
02:43:26,240 --> 02:43:29,840
affordable housing incentives and, um,

3708
02:43:29,840 --> 02:43:31,760
you know, close to a thousand that are

3709
02:43:31,760 --> 02:43:34,800
affordable units. It's important to note

3710
02:43:34,800 --> 02:43:36,960
that the city requirement to use the

3711
02:43:36,960 --> 02:43:39,280
affordable housing incentives is a

3712
02:43:39,280 --> 02:43:43,279
anywhere from 5 to 40% of the total

3713
02:43:43,279 --> 02:43:46,240
dwelling. So depending on the incentive

3714
02:43:46,240 --> 02:43:48,399
use, that's what would determine that.

3715
02:43:48,399 --> 02:43:51,279
And so in [clears throat] in this

3716
02:43:51,279 --> 02:43:54,080
instance, not all of those affordable

3717
02:43:54,080 --> 02:43:55,600
dwellings

3718
02:43:55,600 --> 02:44:00,399
are would are have been approved just

3719
02:44:00,399 --> 02:44:01,920
because of our affordable housing in

3720
02:44:01,920 --> 02:44:03,760
incentives. Most of those are LITC

3721
02:44:03,760 --> 02:44:05,840
funded projects anyway, and they would

3722
02:44:05,840 --> 02:44:07,279
be coming here. But what they've been

3723
02:44:07,279 --> 02:44:09,760
able to do is get more units than they

3724
02:44:09,760 --> 02:44:11,120
normally would have because they can go

3725
02:44:11,120 --> 02:44:13,359
up either increase building height,

3726
02:44:13,359 --> 02:44:15,760
which is most of what's happened in

3727
02:44:15,760 --> 02:44:18,000
terms of the number of dwellings, but

3728
02:44:18,000 --> 02:44:19,600
also in some zones that allows other

3729
02:44:19,600 --> 02:44:22,000
types of housing to be built. Next

3730
02:44:22,000 --> 02:44:24,800
slide.

3731
02:44:24,800 --> 02:44:27,279
So, uh, these are all the units broken

3732
02:44:27,279 --> 02:44:29,359
down. You may have noticed that there's

3733
02:44:29,359 --> 02:44:31,680
a slight discrepancy in the total and

3734
02:44:31,680 --> 02:44:35,040
that is because we had one project that

3735
02:44:35,040 --> 02:44:38,000
submitted um twice but the way we've

3736
02:44:38,000 --> 02:44:39,520
calculated all these we wanted to make

3737
02:44:39,520 --> 02:44:42,160
sure we captured every proposal. So the

3738
02:44:42,160 --> 02:44:44,880
real number isn't 975 as of this it was

3739
02:44:44,880 --> 02:44:47,520
973 because one project submitted the

3740
02:44:47,520 --> 02:44:48,720
same thing in two different locations

3741
02:44:48,720 --> 02:44:51,040
and then picked one that they went with.

3742
02:44:51,040 --> 02:44:53,600
So um but you can see the breakdown of

3743
02:44:53,600 --> 02:44:56,560
affordability that percentages of AMI.

3744
02:44:56,560 --> 02:44:59,840
So that's the area median income. Um

3745
02:44:59,840 --> 02:45:04,000
you'll see 100% there. That is allowed

3746
02:45:04,000 --> 02:45:08,240
if it's for sale dwellings. So um if

3747
02:45:08,240 --> 02:45:11,680
it's a for sale product, they can be at

3748
02:45:11,680 --> 02:45:14,720
100% of AMI. Now that's going to be

3749
02:45:14,720 --> 02:45:18,160
still lower than because it's income

3750
02:45:18,160 --> 02:45:20,960
based, not housing cost based. So that's

3751
02:45:20,960 --> 02:45:23,040
why why you see that on there, but most

3752
02:45:23,040 --> 02:45:25,359
of the incentives kick in at 80% or

3753
02:45:25,359 --> 02:45:27,760
below.

3754
02:45:27,760 --> 02:45:30,319
Next slide.

3755
02:45:30,319 --> 02:45:34,160
Um hopefully this is uh comes across as

3756
02:45:34,160 --> 02:45:35,840
relatively easy to read, but we wanted

3757
02:45:35,840 --> 02:45:37,680
to break down where the applications are

3758
02:45:37,680 --> 02:45:40,319
coming both from zoning district and by

3759
02:45:40,319 --> 02:45:42,800
council district. Uh I think a little

3760
02:45:42,800 --> 02:45:46,960
bit of a surprise is um of the

3761
02:45:46,960 --> 02:45:48,880
applications that were not withdrawn,

3762
02:45:48,880 --> 02:45:50,319
eight of those are in single family

3763
02:45:50,319 --> 02:45:53,359
zones. That surprised us a little bit, I

3764
02:45:53,359 --> 02:45:57,520
think. Um and most of those are in fact

3765
02:45:57,520 --> 02:45:59,600
the two completed projects we have were

3766
02:45:59,600 --> 02:46:02,479
both in one of those zones. Um and then

3767
02:46:02,479 --> 02:46:05,120
you can see we also translated the old

3768
02:46:05,120 --> 02:46:07,439
zoning districts to the current MU zones

3769
02:46:07,439 --> 02:46:09,760
as part of the consolidation here. So

3770
02:46:09,760 --> 02:46:12,960
that's where those numbers um come in.

3771
02:46:12,960 --> 02:46:15,120
And then by council district uh I don't

3772
02:46:15,120 --> 02:46:17,520
know that there's oh

3773
02:46:17,520 --> 02:46:19,040
yeah please stay on the slide. Thank

3774
02:46:19,040 --> 02:46:20,000
you.

3775
02:46:20,000 --> 02:46:22,720
um the

3776
02:46:22,720 --> 02:46:25,760
the percentages of the total dwellings.

3777
02:46:25,760 --> 02:46:29,520
It's broken down um both by the

3778
02:46:29,520 --> 02:46:31,680
applications in each council district,

3779
02:46:31,680 --> 02:46:33,840
the total dwellings, and then the total

3780
02:46:33,840 --> 02:46:36,399
affordable dwellings. So, you can see

3781
02:46:36,399 --> 02:46:38,960
where they are. Um

3782
02:46:38,960 --> 02:46:41,840
district five actually, well, District 2

3783
02:46:41,840 --> 02:46:45,040
has had the most number of applications.

3784
02:46:45,040 --> 02:46:47,200
Um,

3785
02:46:47,200 --> 02:46:50,399
district five has had the highest

3786
02:46:50,399 --> 02:46:52,720
percentage of total dwellings that are

3787
02:46:52,720 --> 02:46:55,200
using the incentives and the highest

3788
02:46:55,200 --> 02:46:56,640
percentage of affordable dwellings

3789
02:46:56,640 --> 02:46:59,680
followed by um districts two and one.

3790
02:46:59,680 --> 02:47:02,000
And then you can see how the other uh

3791
02:47:02,000 --> 02:47:04,880
districts follow. That is almost

3792
02:47:04,880 --> 02:47:09,990
entirely due to zoning.

3793
02:47:10,000 --> 02:47:12,880
Next slide.

3794
02:47:12,880 --> 02:47:14,800
So the the different housing types that

3795
02:47:14,800 --> 02:47:18,240
have been proposed um are on the left.

3796
02:47:18,240 --> 02:47:20,080
So basically depending on what zone

3797
02:47:20,080 --> 02:47:22,880
you're in, you so in the single family

3798
02:47:22,880 --> 02:47:25,279
low density zones, you can do up to a a

3799
02:47:25,279 --> 02:47:29,120
forplex. Um and so most of those

3800
02:47:29,120 --> 02:47:31,200
forplexes down to the cottage core,

3801
02:47:31,200 --> 02:47:33,120
which is just it's listed there, small

3802
02:47:33,120 --> 02:47:35,920
lot, small footprint, detached dwellings

3803
02:47:35,920 --> 02:47:37,840
are in those zones. So that's where you

3804
02:47:37,840 --> 02:47:39,680
can see those projects. um some are in

3805
02:47:39,680 --> 02:47:41,840
an RMF zone, so that's why you get some

3806
02:47:41,840 --> 02:47:44,399
of that. Um and then the multif family

3807
02:47:44,399 --> 02:47:47,840
are all almost all in the um mixeduse

3808
02:47:47,840 --> 02:47:50,960
zoning categories in downtown. And then

3809
02:47:50,960 --> 02:47:53,840
the other type of incentive we have are

3810
02:47:53,840 --> 02:47:55,600
the various things that could be

3811
02:47:55,600 --> 02:47:58,240
modified. So in the R1 zones, there's

3812
02:47:58,240 --> 02:47:59,439
different housing types other than

3813
02:47:59,439 --> 02:48:02,800
detached uh single dwellings that uh are

3814
02:48:02,800 --> 02:48:05,200
allowed. You can reduce parking. You get

3815
02:48:05,200 --> 02:48:07,439
extra building stories. And then the

3816
02:48:07,439 --> 02:48:08,800
biggest one that people use are the

3817
02:48:08,800 --> 02:48:11,680
staff level approvals for modifications.

3818
02:48:11,680 --> 02:48:15,840
Um most of these are associated with the

3819
02:48:15,840 --> 02:48:17,760
um

3820
02:48:17,760 --> 02:48:20,080
low density zoning districts where we're

3821
02:48:20,080 --> 02:48:22,960
we're approving lots without street

3822
02:48:22,960 --> 02:48:24,960
frontage at the staff level. So that

3823
02:48:24,960 --> 02:48:28,000
those units at least um this is mostly

3824
02:48:28,000 --> 02:48:30,800
with um twin homes and duplexes that

3825
02:48:30,800 --> 02:48:32,800
have been associated with this, but it

3826
02:48:32,800 --> 02:48:34,399
allows them to put those on their own

3827
02:48:34,399 --> 02:48:37,439
lot so they can be sold.

3828
02:48:37,439 --> 02:48:39,840
Next slide.

3829
02:48:39,840 --> 02:48:43,680
We did break down the uh bedrooms that

3830
02:48:43,680 --> 02:48:46,960
are in these projects. This is only for

3831
02:48:46,960 --> 02:48:48,479
the

3832
02:48:48,479 --> 02:48:50,319
um

3833
02:48:50,319 --> 02:48:53,040
applications that have had a building

3834
02:48:53,040 --> 02:48:55,760
permit issued. So we haven't broken down

3835
02:48:55,760 --> 02:48:57,279
the bedrooms for those things that have

3836
02:48:57,279 --> 02:48:59,920
been approved to use the AHI but have

3837
02:48:59,920 --> 02:49:02,640
not had their building permit issued. Um

3838
02:49:02,640 --> 02:49:05,200
so you can see um I think these numbers

3839
02:49:05,200 --> 02:49:07,600
actually surprised us a little bit too.

3840
02:49:07,600 --> 02:49:10,560
um in that you know most more than half

3841
02:49:10,560 --> 02:49:13,760
of in fact significantly more close to

3842
02:49:13,760 --> 02:49:18,720
60% I think of these or 70% maybe um are

3843
02:49:18,720 --> 02:49:21,359
have two or more bedrooms in them. So

3844
02:49:21,359 --> 02:49:23,600
that's a reflection I think of a couple

3845
02:49:23,600 --> 02:49:26,240
of things. one, we had a pretty large

3846
02:49:26,240 --> 02:49:27,760
project, I think it was in the Sugar

3847
02:49:27,760 --> 02:49:31,439
House area that had um a broad range of

3848
02:49:31,439 --> 02:49:33,600
bedroom units used. And then we had

3849
02:49:33,600 --> 02:49:35,920
another one in um kind of in the

3850
02:49:35,920 --> 02:49:38,800
Guadalupe neighborhood that also had um

3851
02:49:38,800 --> 02:49:42,479
quite a bit of uh two, three, and four

3852
02:49:42,479 --> 02:49:44,160
bedrooms.

3853
02:49:44,160 --> 02:49:47,429
Next slide.

3854
02:49:47,439 --> 02:49:50,640
So, um, these are whatever these numbers

3855
02:49:50,640 --> 02:49:52,240
add up to, I think it's around 18 or

3856
02:49:52,240 --> 02:49:58,240
something like that that have, um, been

3857
02:49:58,240 --> 02:50:01,359
in a various application process as of

3858
02:50:01,359 --> 02:50:04,080
March. So, the HI application was either

3859
02:50:04,080 --> 02:50:05,840
under review, meaning it had just been

3860
02:50:05,840 --> 02:50:07,840
submitted, um, or it's granted

3861
02:50:07,840 --> 02:50:10,080
preliminary review or final review. and

3862
02:50:10,080 --> 02:50:14,720
then the ones that have either applied

3863
02:50:14,720 --> 02:50:16,720
for a building permit, have been issued

3864
02:50:16,720 --> 02:50:19,439
a building permit, um, [clears throat]

3865
02:50:19,439 --> 02:50:22,880
or have completed it. So, uh, or under

3866
02:50:22,880 --> 02:50:26,160
inspection. So, you can kind of see as

3867
02:50:26,160 --> 02:50:28,800
of May, we had just one application that

3868
02:50:28,800 --> 02:50:31,359
was um, under review that had submitted

3869
02:50:31,359 --> 02:50:33,680
a building permit already. So, that's

3870
02:50:33,680 --> 02:50:35,680
pretty funny. But, uh, and same with

3871
02:50:35,680 --> 02:50:39,439
prelim preliminary approval. they hadn't

3872
02:50:39,439 --> 02:50:41,040
been approved to use the AHIs, but

3873
02:50:41,040 --> 02:50:42,319
they've already gone ahead and submitted

3874
02:50:42,319 --> 02:50:45,200
their plans and permits. Um, we are

3875
02:50:45,200 --> 02:50:46,720
actually reviewing those permits when

3876
02:50:46,720 --> 02:50:48,160
they come in, not just sitting on them

3877
02:50:48,160 --> 02:50:49,920
waiting. So, that that helps reduce the

3878
02:50:49,920 --> 02:50:53,600
approval time. Um, and then

3879
02:50:53,600 --> 02:50:56,000
we have the final approval. One of the

3880
02:50:56,000 --> 02:50:58,560
things is that we have a very high

3881
02:50:58,560 --> 02:51:01,760
percentage of uh even preliminary

3882
02:51:01,760 --> 02:51:04,000
approvals that have gone to building

3883
02:51:04,000 --> 02:51:06,160
permit. So almost everybody who is

3884
02:51:06,160 --> 02:51:09,760
applying to use the AHI is also intent

3885
02:51:09,760 --> 02:51:11,760
getting building permits. That's much

3886
02:51:11,760 --> 02:51:13,359
different than most other land use

3887
02:51:13,359 --> 02:51:15,760
applications where maybe 50% of

3888
02:51:15,760 --> 02:51:18,000
approvals actually ever submit a

3889
02:51:18,000 --> 02:51:20,479
building permit. So they most of those

3890
02:51:20,479 --> 02:51:22,160
they try to get approval and they just

3891
02:51:22,160 --> 02:51:25,760
die. Next slide.

3892
02:51:25,760 --> 02:51:28,000
Uh some of the key points that we've

3893
02:51:28,000 --> 02:51:30,560
we've been working on with this. Um so

3894
02:51:30,560 --> 02:51:32,240
as you know we'll get into this in our

3895
02:51:32,240 --> 02:51:34,640
next slide or two but uh all of these

3896
02:51:34,640 --> 02:51:36,560
require recording a restrictive covenant

3897
02:51:36,560 --> 02:51:38,960
on the property. Um this is what

3898
02:51:38,960 --> 02:51:42,000
requires the most time not just from a

3899
02:51:42,000 --> 02:51:45,200
staff time but most time overall uh in

3900
02:51:45,200 --> 02:51:48,399
this whole process is um getting those

3901
02:51:48,399 --> 02:51:50,240
restrictive covenants to the point that

3902
02:51:50,240 --> 02:51:52,319
they can be actually recorded against

3903
02:51:52,319 --> 02:51:54,880
the property. Um we've had a limited

3904
02:51:54,880 --> 02:51:56,560
number of completed projects. Why that's

3905
02:51:56,560 --> 02:51:58,880
important is because this requires an

3906
02:51:58,880 --> 02:52:01,120
annual report that's due one year after

3907
02:52:01,120 --> 02:52:03,359
you get your certificate of occupancy.

3908
02:52:03,359 --> 02:52:05,279
And so since we've only had two

3909
02:52:05,279 --> 02:52:07,040
properties completed, both those were

3910
02:52:07,040 --> 02:52:08,800
completed towards the I think in

3911
02:52:08,800 --> 02:52:12,720
December of um 2025. So their first

3912
02:52:12,720 --> 02:52:14,479
annual report won't be submitted until

3913
02:52:14,479 --> 02:52:17,279
December of this year. Um and that's

3914
02:52:17,279 --> 02:52:19,279
that last point. No projects have had to

3915
02:52:19,279 --> 02:52:20,640
submit that annual report yet because

3916
02:52:20,640 --> 02:52:21,680
they haven't been built for more than a

3917
02:52:21,680 --> 02:52:24,960
year. Next slide.

3918
02:52:24,960 --> 02:52:26,720
the restrictive covenant. I wanted to

3919
02:52:26,720 --> 02:52:28,160
give a little bit more information on

3920
02:52:28,160 --> 02:52:29,920
because this was one of the I mean this

3921
02:52:29,920 --> 02:52:33,760
is the key piece of of this that ensures

3922
02:52:33,760 --> 02:52:38,240
that um the applicants are actually

3923
02:52:38,240 --> 02:52:39,920
providing what they say they're going

3924
02:52:39,920 --> 02:52:41,600
to. So the restrictive covenant includes

3925
02:52:41,600 --> 02:52:44,319
a bunch of different things. Um there's

3926
02:52:44,319 --> 02:52:46,080
the recital that are the basic facts.

3927
02:52:46,080 --> 02:52:47,200
Here's the number of units. Here's your

3928
02:52:47,200 --> 02:52:48,399
dwellings. Here's your affordability

3929
02:52:48,399 --> 02:52:51,040
level, etc. There's some definitions on

3930
02:52:51,040 --> 02:52:53,600
what all of that means. There's actually

3931
02:52:53,600 --> 02:52:57,359
13 specific covenants that are in all of

3932
02:52:57,359 --> 02:53:01,840
the um documents that get recorded. They

3933
02:53:01,840 --> 02:53:04,319
vary slightly whether it's a forale

3934
02:53:04,319 --> 02:53:05,760
property versus a rental property

3935
02:53:05,760 --> 02:53:07,359
because the rental properties, we have a

3936
02:53:07,359 --> 02:53:09,680
covenant that says you can't basically

3937
02:53:09,680 --> 02:53:11,840
condominiumize this for sale while

3938
02:53:11,840 --> 02:53:13,840
you're under these covenants. And then

3939
02:53:13,840 --> 02:53:16,000
it addresses what happens if somebody

3940
02:53:16,000 --> 02:53:18,560
defaults and then what the city's um

3941
02:53:18,560 --> 02:53:21,120
capabilities are. Next slide.

3942
02:53:21,120 --> 02:53:23,040
So, these are the types of things that

3943
02:53:23,040 --> 02:53:25,680
are in that list of 13. Obviously, you

3944
02:53:25,680 --> 02:53:27,840
have to rent to qualified tenants at an

3945
02:53:27,840 --> 02:53:29,760
agreed upon rate and for the length of

3946
02:53:29,760 --> 02:53:32,399
time. Um, there's certain occupancy

3947
02:53:32,399 --> 02:53:34,319
types of things, so they can't rent them

3948
02:53:34,319 --> 02:53:35,600
to someone who's only going to be there

3949
02:53:35,600 --> 02:53:39,359
for um not full-time. Can't use them for

3950
02:53:39,359 --> 02:53:40,800
like short-term rentals and things like

3951
02:53:40,800 --> 02:53:43,120
that. How they're maintained. Um,

3952
02:53:43,120 --> 02:53:44,479
obviously, you can't discriminate with

3953
02:53:44,479 --> 02:53:47,279
who you're renting to the annual report.

3954
02:53:47,279 --> 02:53:49,200
um you limited on what you can do for

3955
02:53:49,200 --> 02:53:50,960
expanding the buildings, things like

3956
02:53:50,960 --> 02:53:53,040
that. What happens if the ownership of

3957
02:53:53,040 --> 02:53:54,640
the property changes? That's really

3958
02:53:54,640 --> 02:53:57,920
important for for sale things. Um and

3959
02:53:57,920 --> 02:54:01,840
then how we enforce that. Next slide.

3960
02:54:01,840 --> 02:54:04,880
Um some of the biggest issues with

3961
02:54:04,880 --> 02:54:06,960
restrictive covenant right now, these

3962
02:54:06,960 --> 02:54:09,040
require a significant time from the city

3963
02:54:09,040 --> 02:54:12,080
attorney's office. Um, we do have

3964
02:54:12,080 --> 02:54:13,920
templates that are used, but they have

3965
02:54:13,920 --> 02:54:17,040
to fill in the specifics for each

3966
02:54:17,040 --> 02:54:19,120
project. We help them with those numbers

3967
02:54:19,120 --> 02:54:21,439
and putting them in. Um, but one of the

3968
02:54:21,439 --> 02:54:23,840
things that we're running into is that

3969
02:54:23,840 --> 02:54:25,840
almost every applicant wants to

3970
02:54:25,840 --> 02:54:28,880
negotiate some of those covenants and we

3971
02:54:28,880 --> 02:54:30,479
have told them we are we're not

3972
02:54:30,479 --> 02:54:32,640
negotiating the covenants. That's not

3973
02:54:32,640 --> 02:54:35,520
something we're going to do. Um, we've

3974
02:54:35,520 --> 02:54:37,680
had we have had some issues where some

3975
02:54:37,680 --> 02:54:39,600
of the covenants may conflict with some

3976
02:54:39,600 --> 02:54:42,319
of the terms of their lending

3977
02:54:42,319 --> 02:54:44,800
institutions in which case we've been

3978
02:54:44,800 --> 02:54:49,279
able to create um modify those specific

3979
02:54:49,279 --> 02:54:51,439
covenants. That's really important for

3980
02:54:51,439 --> 02:54:53,600
LITC which require certain things that

3981
02:54:53,600 --> 02:54:55,120
we don't want to conflict with. And our

3982
02:54:55,120 --> 02:54:59,359
intent was if somebody already had uh

3983
02:54:59,359 --> 02:55:02,080
they're under pretty strict financial

3984
02:55:02,080 --> 02:55:03,840
requirements associated with their money

3985
02:55:03,840 --> 02:55:06,000
to not get in the way of that. And when

3986
02:55:06,000 --> 02:55:07,760
we if you remember for those of you who

3987
02:55:07,760 --> 02:55:08,800
are on the council when this was

3988
02:55:08,800 --> 02:55:10,960
adopted, we specifically said we didn't

3989
02:55:10,960 --> 02:55:12,720
want to do that. If someone already was

3990
02:55:12,720 --> 02:55:13,760
going through that, we didn't want to

3991
02:55:13,760 --> 02:55:15,359
create another hoop to jump through or

3992
02:55:15,359 --> 02:55:20,080
another uh a loop to to go around. Um,

3993
02:55:20,080 --> 02:55:23,040
and then again, like I said, this is the

3994
02:55:23,040 --> 02:55:24,960
longest part of the approval process.

3995
02:55:24,960 --> 02:55:27,520
Next slide.

3996
02:55:27,520 --> 02:55:29,040
Uh, we do think there are some things

3997
02:55:29,040 --> 02:55:31,840
that we could improve to kind of drive

3998
02:55:31,840 --> 02:55:33,600
home some of the point. Um, one of those

3999
02:55:33,600 --> 02:55:35,120
is some of these terms we may want to

4000
02:55:35,120 --> 02:55:37,279
consider adopting into our code. That

4001
02:55:37,279 --> 02:55:40,319
way they are um, it's more clear-cut for

4002
02:55:40,319 --> 02:55:42,000
applicants that we're not we don't have

4003
02:55:42,000 --> 02:55:44,800
the ability to negotiate them. Um,

4004
02:55:44,800 --> 02:55:47,760
we've, like I said, we've res resolved

4005
02:55:47,760 --> 02:55:49,200
the conflicts with some of the lending

4006
02:55:49,200 --> 02:55:52,560
institutions. Um, and we've gone from

4007
02:55:52,560 --> 02:55:56,000
there. And then some of our goals for

4008
02:55:56,000 --> 02:55:57,600
making some of these changes, obviously,

4009
02:55:57,600 --> 02:55:59,600
we need to reduce the time for the city

4010
02:55:59,600 --> 02:56:01,040
attorneys. We're doing so many

4011
02:56:01,040 --> 02:56:02,399
restrictive covenants and development

4012
02:56:02,399 --> 02:56:04,479
agreements now that our land use

4013
02:56:04,479 --> 02:56:06,319
attorneys are significantly impacted by

4014
02:56:06,319 --> 02:56:08,399
that. And so, we we really want to try

4015
02:56:08,399 --> 02:56:10,160
to do what we can to streamline those

4016
02:56:10,160 --> 02:56:12,640
things. Um, and part of that is

4017
02:56:12,640 --> 02:56:15,279
eliminating the negotiation part and

4018
02:56:15,279 --> 02:56:18,720
reduce the overall time. Next slide.

4019
02:56:18,720 --> 02:56:20,319
That might be it. Oh, and then here's

4020
02:56:20,319 --> 02:56:22,800
some code clarifications that that we

4021
02:56:22,800 --> 02:56:26,560
think of have come up. Um, one is the

4022
02:56:26,560 --> 02:56:28,720
timing of subdividing. So, afford the

4023
02:56:28,720 --> 02:56:30,319
affordable housing incentives can only

4024
02:56:30,319 --> 02:56:32,640
be used on existing lots. What that

4025
02:56:32,640 --> 02:56:36,080
means is somebody can't come in with a

4026
02:56:36,080 --> 02:56:41,760
parcel of land and propose applying AHI

4027
02:56:41,760 --> 02:56:45,439
to all of it and then sub and subdivide

4028
02:56:45,439 --> 02:56:47,840
it further. So this is really important

4029
02:56:47,840 --> 02:56:51,200
in our low density zones where you get

4030
02:56:51,200 --> 02:56:55,279
four dwellings per existing lot. So, if

4031
02:56:55,279 --> 02:56:57,120
you have a lot that may be three times

4032
02:56:57,120 --> 02:56:59,680
the minimum lot size of that zone, say

4033
02:56:59,680 --> 02:57:02,080
you're in an R17000 zone and you've got

4034
02:57:02,080 --> 02:57:04,880
22,000 square ft, you would have to

4035
02:57:04,880 --> 02:57:07,200
subdivide that land legally before you

4036
02:57:07,200 --> 02:57:09,760
could apply for AHI. Then each each of

4037
02:57:09,760 --> 02:57:12,880
the three lots would be eligible for it.

4038
02:57:12,880 --> 02:57:16,240
But what we're seeing is that those lots

4039
02:57:16,240 --> 02:57:18,720
generally cannot be subdivided without

4040
02:57:18,720 --> 02:57:20,560
going also through a plan development

4041
02:57:20,560 --> 02:57:22,800
process because either they they don't

4042
02:57:22,800 --> 02:57:24,160
meet the street frontage or they don't

4043
02:57:24,160 --> 02:57:25,680
meet the minimum lot widths and things

4044
02:57:25,680 --> 02:57:29,200
like that. And so what we want to

4045
02:57:29,200 --> 02:57:30,880
clarify is that if you're going through

4046
02:57:30,880 --> 02:57:32,880
a plan development,

4047
02:57:32,880 --> 02:57:34,240
the plan development would have to

4048
02:57:34,240 --> 02:57:36,319
specifically authorize your use of

4049
02:57:36,319 --> 02:57:38,720
affordable housing incentives instead of

4050
02:57:38,720 --> 02:57:40,960
getting the plan development and then

4051
02:57:40,960 --> 02:57:42,399
trying to apply it. Part of that is

4052
02:57:42,399 --> 02:57:44,000
because an approved plan development

4053
02:57:44,000 --> 02:57:47,120
becomes in most instances your actual

4054
02:57:47,120 --> 02:57:49,920
zoning, right? You've modified certain

4055
02:57:49,920 --> 02:57:51,840
things and that plan development has to

4056
02:57:51,840 --> 02:57:53,359
be followed with all future building

4057
02:57:53,359 --> 02:57:56,160
permits. And so if we haven't authorized

4058
02:57:56,160 --> 02:57:58,319
affordable housing to be used in that,

4059
02:57:58,319 --> 02:58:00,000
then you wouldn't be able to do it. So

4060
02:58:00,000 --> 02:58:02,319
we want to work around clarifying that.

4061
02:58:02,319 --> 02:58:04,640
We have no intention of somebody who may

4062
02:58:04,640 --> 02:58:06,479
have 20,000

4063
02:58:06,479 --> 02:58:08,640
uh square feet for that to be divided

4064
02:58:08,640 --> 02:58:11,920
into three lots and then divided again

4065
02:58:11,920 --> 02:58:14,880
into four lots per unit to get that.

4066
02:58:14,880 --> 02:58:16,800
That is not the intent of the affordable

4067
02:58:16,800 --> 02:58:19,600
housing incentives. Um so that's that's

4068
02:58:19,600 --> 02:58:21,120
kind of what we want to get to. I

4069
02:58:21,120 --> 02:58:24,319
already mentioned um codifying terms in

4070
02:58:24,319 --> 02:58:26,640
the covenant. Um, one thing that I think

4071
02:58:26,640 --> 02:58:28,800
is in the council office at this I think

4072
02:58:28,800 --> 02:58:31,760
it's been transmitted, but um, for

4073
02:58:31,760 --> 02:58:33,120
whatever reason when the code was

4074
02:58:33,120 --> 02:58:35,840
adopted, the fines were referenced as

4075
02:58:35,840 --> 02:58:38,479
being in the consolidated fee schedule,

4076
02:58:38,479 --> 02:58:40,080
but legally they can't be in the

4077
02:58:40,080 --> 02:58:41,680
consolidated fee schedule because it's

4078
02:58:41,680 --> 02:58:44,399
not a fee, it's a fine. And so we're we

4079
02:58:44,399 --> 02:58:47,760
have a text to put those back into our

4080
02:58:47,760 --> 02:58:51,040
code so it's very clear that it's not

4081
02:58:51,040 --> 02:58:52,800
changing the amounts. Um but one thing

4082
02:58:52,800 --> 02:58:55,439
we are adding is an additional fine if

4083
02:58:55,439 --> 02:58:57,680
you violate the restrictive covenant. So

4084
02:58:57,680 --> 02:59:00,160
not just violating the AHI requirements

4085
02:59:00,160 --> 02:59:04,160
but any aspect of the covenant. Um and

4086
02:59:04,160 --> 02:59:07,439
then the other thing is that um there's

4087
02:59:07,439 --> 02:59:09,600
been some confusion with applicants of

4088
02:59:09,600 --> 02:59:13,600
whether the covenant only applies to the

4089
02:59:13,600 --> 02:59:15,359
affordable housing incentive dwelling.

4090
02:59:15,359 --> 02:59:18,560
So that's that 10% or 5% whatever it is

4091
02:59:18,560 --> 02:59:21,359
or if it applies to every dwelling in a

4092
02:59:21,359 --> 02:59:23,600
development. Our intention when this was

4093
02:59:23,600 --> 02:59:26,479
written is that it would only apply to

4094
02:59:26,479 --> 02:59:28,960
the AHI required dwellings. Everything

4095
02:59:28,960 --> 02:59:32,000
else you're just subject to the zoning

4096
02:59:32,000 --> 02:59:33,200
rules or whatever your lending

4097
02:59:33,200 --> 02:59:35,600
institution requires you. So that's a

4098
02:59:35,600 --> 02:59:37,040
code clarification that we're probably

4099
02:59:37,040 --> 02:59:38,960
going to be start working on it over the

4100
02:59:38,960 --> 02:59:41,040
next year or two. And I think that's the

4101
02:59:41,040 --> 02:59:44,800
end of the presentation, but happy to

4102
02:59:44,800 --> 02:59:47,974
answer any questions.

4103
02:59:47,974 --> 02:59:48,640
[snorts]

4104
02:59:48,640 --> 02:59:50,150
>> Council member Wharton.

4105
02:59:50,150 --> 02:59:50,160
» Council member Wharton.

4106
02:59:50,160 --> 02:59:50,950
>> Yeah.

4107
02:59:50,950 --> 02:59:50,960
» Yeah.

4108
02:59:50,960 --> 02:59:53,510
>> So, what was what do you think is the

4109
02:59:53,510 --> 02:59:53,520
» So, what was what do you think is the

4110
02:59:53,520 --> 02:59:56,880
biggest surprise of this? The is it the

4111
02:59:56,880 --> 03:00:00,640
negotiations taking a long time

4112
03:00:00,640 --> 03:00:00,960
or

4113
03:00:00,960 --> 03:00:01,990
>> Yeah, I think

4114
03:00:01,990 --> 03:00:02,000
» Yeah, I think

4115
03:00:02,000 --> 03:00:03,670
>> people the number of people who want to

4116
03:00:03,670 --> 03:00:03,680
» people the number of people who want to

4117
03:00:03,680 --> 03:00:06,080
negotiate. Yeah, I think that's probably

4118
03:00:06,080 --> 03:00:07,760
I don't know that we anticipated the

4119
03:00:07,760 --> 03:00:10,000
restrictive covenant almost everyone

4120
03:00:10,000 --> 03:00:12,479
wanting to change some wording in one of

4121
03:00:12,479 --> 03:00:15,920
those, right? And it's for us and and

4122
03:00:15,920 --> 03:00:17,760
the attorneys, we that's just a

4123
03:00:17,760 --> 03:00:19,920
non-negotiable, right? We're not going

4124
03:00:19,920 --> 03:00:21,680
to do those things. Now, some of them

4125
03:00:21,680 --> 03:00:24,319
have been valid, you know, like I me

4126
03:00:24,319 --> 03:00:26,000
mentioned with LITC and but we've

4127
03:00:26,000 --> 03:00:27,760
addressed those. And so, I think that's

4128
03:00:27,760 --> 03:00:30,080
one of our biggest surprises is how long

4129
03:00:30,080 --> 03:00:32,240
that part that process has taken. I

4130
03:00:32,240 --> 03:00:33,520
don't think we envisioned it taking

4131
03:00:33,520 --> 03:00:36,880
months, maybe weeks. Um, and it for it

4132
03:00:36,880 --> 03:00:39,279
to run. The benefit is it does coincide

4133
03:00:39,279 --> 03:00:41,439
with their building permit review. But

4134
03:00:41,439 --> 03:00:43,359
generally, if you're building a low

4135
03:00:43,359 --> 03:00:45,359
density project, those building permits

4136
03:00:45,359 --> 03:00:49,040
are review are pretty quick. So, it it

4137
03:00:49,040 --> 03:00:50,720
that that's where it that's kind of one

4138
03:00:50,720 --> 03:00:53,439
of those big wait a minute, we didn't we

4139
03:00:53,439 --> 03:00:56,000
didn't see that happening like that.

4140
03:00:56,000 --> 03:00:58,640
So, aside from like LITC or other

4141
03:00:58,640 --> 03:01:00,560
funding requirements,

4142
03:01:00,560 --> 03:01:03,200
what might a typical negotiation look

4143
03:01:03,200 --> 03:01:04,800
like? Like what is it that they're even

4144
03:01:04,800 --> 03:01:05,760
negotiating in?

4145
03:01:05,760 --> 03:01:09,349
>> Oh, sometimes it's sometimes it's people

4146
03:01:09,349 --> 03:01:09,359
» Oh, sometimes it's sometimes it's people

4147
03:01:09,359 --> 03:01:12,880
um not wanting like we have the um one

4148
03:01:12,880 --> 03:01:14,880
of the I'm trying to remember the exact

4149
03:01:14,880 --> 03:01:17,680
thing, but we've had people ask about

4150
03:01:17,680 --> 03:01:19,600
why do you have the non-discrimination

4151
03:01:19,600 --> 03:01:21,040
stuff in there? I'm like, well, you have

4152
03:01:21,040 --> 03:01:22,295
to comply with the Fair Housing

4153
03:01:22,295 --> 03:01:23,840
[laughter] Act, right? And we're not

4154
03:01:23,840 --> 03:01:24,309
>> Yeah.

4155
03:01:24,309 --> 03:01:24,319
» Yeah.

4156
03:01:24,319 --> 03:01:25,830
>> We're not, you know, and we want to make

4157
03:01:25,830 --> 03:01:25,840
» We're not, you know, and we want to make

4158
03:01:25,840 --> 03:01:26,800
sure you are.

4159
03:01:26,800 --> 03:01:28,309
>> Yes.

4160
03:01:28,309 --> 03:01:28,319
» Yes.

4161
03:01:28,319 --> 03:01:31,110
>> Um and and so there's been some who have

4162
03:01:31,110 --> 03:01:31,120
» Um and and so there's been some who have

4163
03:01:31,120 --> 03:01:33,439
questioned the length of term

4164
03:01:33,439 --> 03:01:35,030
>> on those things. And those are things

4165
03:01:35,030 --> 03:01:35,040
» on those things. And those are things

4166
03:01:35,040 --> 03:01:36,560
that are in code.

4167
03:01:36,560 --> 03:01:40,389
>> Um so it's it's usually

4168
03:01:40,389 --> 03:01:40,399
» Um so it's it's usually

4169
03:01:40,399 --> 03:01:42,479
more frequently it's well we don't like

4170
03:01:42,479 --> 03:01:43,920
we don't necessarily disagree with it.

4171
03:01:43,920 --> 03:01:46,399
We just don't like how you worded it.

4172
03:01:46,399 --> 03:01:47,990
>> And so we're just kind of like, you

4173
03:01:47,990 --> 03:01:48,000
» And so we're just kind of like, you

4174
03:01:48,000 --> 03:01:49,279
know, we're not going to word smith

4175
03:01:49,279 --> 03:01:51,760
these things back and forth.

4176
03:01:51,760 --> 03:01:53,349
>> Yeah. I mean, I don't want to go too far

4177
03:01:53,349 --> 03:01:53,359
» Yeah. I mean, I don't want to go too far

4178
03:01:53,359 --> 03:01:55,359
down this rabbit hole, but like I guess

4179
03:01:55,359 --> 03:01:57,920
I'm kind of confused as to I mean, I

4180
03:01:57,920 --> 03:01:59,600
don't remember

4181
03:01:59,600 --> 03:02:02,640
creating like a negotiation setting. Um,

4182
03:02:02,640 --> 03:02:04,160
so like I don't know why they feel like

4183
03:02:04,160 --> 03:02:06,880
it is negotiable any of it.

4184
03:02:06,880 --> 03:02:09,110
>> Yeah. And

4185
03:02:09,110 --> 03:02:09,120
» Yeah. And

4186
03:02:09,120 --> 03:02:10,389
>> they ask.

4187
03:02:10,389 --> 03:02:10,399
» they ask.

4188
03:02:10,399 --> 03:02:12,710
>> Okay. So,

4189
03:02:12,710 --> 03:02:12,720
» Okay. So,

4190
03:02:12,720 --> 03:02:17,190
>> um, and then what, um, have we learned

4191
03:02:17,190 --> 03:02:17,200
» um, and then what, um, have we learned

4192
03:02:17,200 --> 03:02:21,680
or what would inform, um, like our

4193
03:02:21,680 --> 03:02:23,840
thoughts and and conversations about

4194
03:02:23,840 --> 03:02:26,080
expanded housing opportunities from

4195
03:02:26,080 --> 03:02:27,120
this?

4196
03:02:27,120 --> 03:02:29,830
>> Yeah. So, one of the things that we're

4197
03:02:29,830 --> 03:02:29,840
» Yeah. So, one of the things that we're

4198
03:02:29,840 --> 03:02:32,399
um

4199
03:02:32,399 --> 03:02:34,960
seeing with this versus expanding

4200
03:02:34,960 --> 03:02:38,240
housing opportunities is that

4201
03:02:38,240 --> 03:02:39,840
um

4202
03:02:39,840 --> 03:02:41,920
the dwellings, particularly in the low

4203
03:02:41,920 --> 03:02:43,439
density, because that's where expanding

4204
03:02:43,439 --> 03:02:47,439
housing would apply. is that um the

4205
03:02:47,439 --> 03:02:52,160
house the housing units themselves are

4206
03:02:52,160 --> 03:02:55,040
typically still pretty large because

4207
03:02:55,040 --> 03:02:57,279
there's not restrictions on them through

4208
03:02:57,279 --> 03:03:00,479
AHI and so you know we've had one that

4209
03:03:00,479 --> 03:03:04,000
was I think it was a a duplex where each

4210
03:03:04,000 --> 03:03:07,200
duplex was like over 2,000 square feet.

4211
03:03:07,200 --> 03:03:07,910
>> Oh wow.

4212
03:03:07,910 --> 03:03:07,920
» Oh wow.

4213
03:03:07,920 --> 03:03:10,550
>> Yeah. And so it's like okay that's great

4214
03:03:10,550 --> 03:03:10,560
» Yeah. And so it's like okay that's great

4215
03:03:10,560 --> 03:03:12,640
if you know and then it was for

4216
03:03:12,640 --> 03:03:16,880
somebody's like um adult son who needed

4217
03:03:16,880 --> 03:03:19,120
was somewhat independent but you know

4218
03:03:19,120 --> 03:03:20,960
needed other and so it's like yeah that

4219
03:03:20,960 --> 03:03:22,399
meets I mean as long as you're committed

4220
03:03:22,399 --> 03:03:25,760
to this thing and um whereas

4221
03:03:25,760 --> 03:03:29,840
um the expanding housing options is

4222
03:03:29,840 --> 03:03:34,080
intended to produce the smaller scale

4223
03:03:34,080 --> 03:03:37,040
homes so that they're more attainable

4224
03:03:37,040 --> 03:03:41,760
without having a um

4225
03:03:41,760 --> 03:03:45,359
need necessarily for um subsidized

4226
03:03:45,359 --> 03:03:48,160
funding. Really, almost every project

4227
03:03:48,160 --> 03:03:50,240
that we've had except for I think two of

4228
03:03:50,240 --> 03:03:52,479
the duplexes have had some affordable

4229
03:03:52,479 --> 03:03:55,680
housing incentive dollars going to it.

4230
03:03:55,680 --> 03:03:58,160
So, so the expanding housing options is

4231
03:03:58,160 --> 03:04:00,080
supposed is intended to create an avenue

4232
03:04:00,080 --> 03:04:03,840
to create more attainable housing than

4233
03:04:03,840 --> 03:04:06,319
what might be a able to here because a

4234
03:04:06,319 --> 03:04:08,160
lot of these projects wouldn't qualify

4235
03:04:08,160 --> 03:04:09,840
for funding because they're just too

4236
03:04:09,840 --> 03:04:10,720
small,

4237
03:04:10,720 --> 03:04:12,389
>> right? They're just two units or four

4238
03:04:12,389 --> 03:04:12,399
» right? They're just two units or four

4239
03:04:12,399 --> 03:04:15,040
units and that doesn't always qualify.

4240
03:04:15,040 --> 03:04:18,160
And what about are there any like have

4241
03:04:18,160 --> 03:04:20,240
we learned anything about having to the

4242
03:04:20,240 --> 03:04:22,479
plan development component or would that

4243
03:04:22,479 --> 03:04:24,800
not apply to the

4244
03:04:24,800 --> 03:04:26,319
um expanded?

4245
03:04:26,319 --> 03:04:28,950
>> So we we would address

4246
03:04:28,950 --> 03:04:28,960
» So we we would address

4247
03:04:28,960 --> 03:04:31,600
we think similar issues will come up and

4248
03:04:31,600 --> 03:04:34,080
so we're working through that

4249
03:04:34,080 --> 03:04:34,469
>> okay

4250
03:04:34,469 --> 03:04:34,479
» okay

4251
03:04:34,479 --> 03:04:36,469
>> already with that. So that that's one

4252
03:04:36,469 --> 03:04:36,479
» already with that. So that that's one

4253
03:04:36,479 --> 03:04:38,399
thing that we're trying to re into so

4254
03:04:38,399 --> 03:04:40,319
that it doesn't get the same scenario

4255
03:04:40,319 --> 03:04:42,240
with expanding housing options.

4256
03:04:42,240 --> 03:04:43,590
>> Okay. Thank you.

4257
03:04:43,590 --> 03:04:43,600
» Okay. Thank you.

4258
03:04:43,600 --> 03:04:45,910
>> Yep. Council

4259
03:04:45,910 --> 03:04:45,920
» Yep. Council

4260
03:04:45,920 --> 03:04:46,880
Mugan,

4261
03:04:46,880 --> 03:04:48,550
>> thanks. Appreciate this. I mean, some of

4262
03:04:48,550 --> 03:04:48,560
» thanks. Appreciate this. I mean, some of

4263
03:04:48,560 --> 03:04:50,800
this is not really uh shocking to me.

4264
03:04:50,800 --> 03:04:54,720
I'm I'm thinking about the the R1 R, you

4265
03:04:54,720 --> 03:04:56,319
know, five and 7,000. You had eight

4266
03:04:56,319 --> 03:05:00,160
applicants and you had the two that were

4267
03:05:00,160 --> 03:05:01,359
for sale.

4268
03:05:01,359 --> 03:05:02,070
>> Thank you.

4269
03:05:02,070 --> 03:05:02,080
» Thank you.

4270
03:05:02,080 --> 03:05:03,990
>> Uh

4271
03:05:03,990 --> 03:05:04,000
» Uh

4272
03:05:04,000 --> 03:05:06,319
did you have these been over the last

4273
03:05:06,319 --> 03:05:08,800
like 6 months? Cuz I'm thinking that

4274
03:05:08,800 --> 03:05:11,120
they were later. And does that shock you

4275
03:05:11,120 --> 03:05:15,040
that the numbers were so low or uh it

4276
03:05:15,040 --> 03:05:18,240
was um

4277
03:05:18,240 --> 03:05:20,000
yeah shocking that the numbers are so

4278
03:05:20,000 --> 03:05:20,479
low or

4279
03:05:20,479 --> 03:05:21,910
>> I don't think it shocked us that the

4280
03:05:21,910 --> 03:05:21,920
» I don't think it shocked us that the

4281
03:05:21,920 --> 03:05:25,520
numbers are so low. I don't going in we

4282
03:05:25,520 --> 03:05:29,200
didn't anticipate this being used in the

4283
03:05:29,200 --> 03:05:31,359
low density districts all that much.

4284
03:05:31,359 --> 03:05:31,750
>> Yeah.

4285
03:05:31,750 --> 03:05:31,760
» Yeah.

4286
03:05:31,760 --> 03:05:34,790
>> So we already knew there was a low

4287
03:05:34,790 --> 03:05:34,800
» So we already knew there was a low

4288
03:05:34,800 --> 03:05:37,510
>> kind of a low expectation there. Right.

4289
03:05:37,510 --> 03:05:37,520
» kind of a low expectation there. Right.

4290
03:05:37,520 --> 03:05:39,359
But I don't think that in the first two

4291
03:05:39,359 --> 03:05:41,920
years we expected more properties in

4292
03:05:41,920 --> 03:05:44,720
those zones to apply than in the other

4293
03:05:44,720 --> 03:05:47,279
zones. And some of that is just a a

4294
03:05:47,279 --> 03:05:51,840
reflection of the um time upon which the

4295
03:05:51,840 --> 03:05:54,240
affordable housing incentives became

4296
03:05:54,240 --> 03:05:55,680
went into effect.

4297
03:05:55,680 --> 03:05:57,830
>> They went into effect at a time when the

4298
03:05:57,830 --> 03:05:57,840
» They went into effect at a time when the

4299
03:05:57,840 --> 03:06:00,000
financial world in terms of financing

4300
03:06:00,000 --> 03:06:02,080
development was really really

4301
03:06:02,080 --> 03:06:05,439
challenging. And so most of those low

4302
03:06:05,439 --> 03:06:07,920
density projects were people who had a

4303
03:06:07,920 --> 03:06:10,960
and we did anticipate this had a lot of

4304
03:06:10,960 --> 03:06:13,520
equity [clears throat] or in in

4305
03:06:13,520 --> 03:06:16,960
underutil ba basically very large R1

4306
03:06:16,960 --> 03:06:19,520
properties that had space to do it

4307
03:06:19,520 --> 03:06:22,160
fairly easily and that's exactly what

4308
03:06:22,160 --> 03:06:23,439
those were

4309
03:06:23,439 --> 03:06:25,590
>> and and it wasn't a shock that there was

4310
03:06:25,590 --> 03:06:25,600
» and and it wasn't a shock that there was

4311
03:06:25,600 --> 03:06:27,920
only two units for on the for sale end

4312
03:06:27,920 --> 03:06:28,800
of it.

4313
03:06:28,800 --> 03:06:30,950
>> No. Yeah. the the first sale is

4314
03:06:30,950 --> 03:06:30,960
» No. Yeah. the the first sale is

4315
03:06:30,960 --> 03:06:32,640
complicated because people have to basic

4316
03:06:32,640 --> 03:06:34,479
it's a different financing mechanism and

4317
03:06:34,479 --> 03:06:35,680
people basically have to be able to

4318
03:06:35,680 --> 03:06:37,359
carry that weight for sale and be

4319
03:06:37,359 --> 03:06:40,160
willing to manage that over time.

4320
03:06:40,160 --> 03:06:45,830
>> Right. Right. Right. And so yeah,

4321
03:06:45,840 --> 03:06:48,080
» council

4322
03:06:48,080 --> 03:06:51,590
>> um so you had information saying how you

4323
03:06:51,590 --> 03:06:51,600
» um so you had information saying how you

4324
03:06:51,600 --> 03:06:54,240
can't attribute all of the volume, but

4325
03:06:54,240 --> 03:06:56,240
do you have any indication in the data

4326
03:06:56,240 --> 03:06:58,160
tracking as to whether or not we were

4327
03:06:58,160 --> 03:07:00,000
able to promote the geographic

4328
03:07:00,000 --> 03:07:01,760
diversity? When we came up with this

4329
03:07:01,760 --> 03:07:04,800
ordinance, the idea was that economics

4330
03:07:04,800 --> 03:07:06,479
always tends to push the affordable

4331
03:07:06,479 --> 03:07:08,800
housing, but this would be a policy tool

4332
03:07:08,800 --> 03:07:11,359
to help push that affordability and

4333
03:07:11,359 --> 03:07:13,680
spread it out. Do you have any data if

4334
03:07:13,680 --> 03:07:16,560
the AHI applications helped with the

4335
03:07:16,560 --> 03:07:21,439
geographic diversity? Uh I think I mean

4336
03:07:21,439 --> 03:07:27,120
we have it by um council district

4337
03:07:27,120 --> 03:07:30,160
but we we don't have an in I think until

4338
03:07:30,160 --> 03:07:32,399
some of these we get more built. I don't

4339
03:07:32,399 --> 03:07:34,000
know that we'll be able to see if

4340
03:07:34,000 --> 03:07:36,319
there's what the concentration actually

4341
03:07:36,319 --> 03:07:38,319
is. So we haven't broken it down by

4342
03:07:38,319 --> 03:07:39,760
address yet.

4343
03:07:39,760 --> 03:07:42,070
>> Um it's ju just because of the time. for

4344
03:07:42,070 --> 03:07:42,080
» Um it's ju just because of the time. for

4345
03:07:42,080 --> 03:07:44,800
for the future for me a data point like

4346
03:07:44,800 --> 03:07:46,640
I don't expect that even a majority of

4347
03:07:46,640 --> 03:07:48,080
the affordable housing in the city would

4348
03:07:48,080 --> 03:07:50,479
use this ordinance but if this ordinance

4349
03:07:50,479 --> 03:07:52,720
is incentivizing an affordability in

4350
03:07:52,720 --> 03:07:54,160
places where it hadn't been that would

4351
03:07:54,160 --> 03:07:57,120
be really I would be interested in that

4352
03:07:57,120 --> 03:07:58,000
kind of data

4353
03:07:58,000 --> 03:07:59,910
>> yeah for sure I think everybody would

4354
03:07:59,910 --> 03:07:59,920
» yeah for sure I think everybody would

4355
03:07:59,920 --> 03:08:03,190
Yeah.

4356
03:08:03,200 --> 03:08:04,160
» Okay.

4357
03:08:04,160 --> 03:08:07,269
>> Wait, can we do another another update

4358
03:08:07,269 --> 03:08:07,279
» Wait, can we do another another update

4359
03:08:07,279 --> 03:08:09,120
in like two years?

4360
03:08:09,120 --> 03:08:11,590
>> Sure. another two years cuz I want I

4361
03:08:11,590 --> 03:08:11,600
» Sure. another two years cuz I want I

4362
03:08:11,600 --> 03:08:12,640
mean there were a couple points where

4363
03:08:12,640 --> 03:08:13,840
you're like we won't know this until

4364
03:08:13,840 --> 03:08:15,600
they're built and I want to know those

4365
03:08:15,600 --> 03:08:16,479
things.

4366
03:08:16,479 --> 03:08:18,950
>> So is like 2 years another good time or

4367
03:08:18,950 --> 03:08:18,960
» So is like 2 years another good time or

4368
03:08:18,960 --> 03:08:20,870
>> Oh yeah I think I think that's I think

4369
03:08:20,870 --> 03:08:20,880
» Oh yeah I think I think that's I think

4370
03:08:20,880 --> 03:08:22,399
that's more than doable. So

4371
03:08:22,399 --> 03:08:23,990
>> okay

4372
03:08:23,990 --> 03:08:24,000
» okay

4373
03:08:24,000 --> 03:08:26,389
>> can the snooze button for two years now

4374
03:08:26,389 --> 03:08:26,399
» can the snooze button for two years now

4375
03:08:26,399 --> 03:08:27,760
then?

4376
03:08:27,760 --> 03:08:29,190
>> Let me just set my timer.

4377
03:08:29,190 --> 03:08:29,200
» Let me just set my timer.

4378
03:08:29,200 --> 03:08:30,710
>> Say set your timer. [laughter]

4379
03:08:30,710 --> 03:08:30,720
» Say set your timer. [laughter]

4380
03:08:30,720 --> 03:08:33,750
>> You can set a reminder and let us know.

4381
03:08:33,750 --> 03:08:33,760
» You can set a reminder and let us know.

4382
03:08:33,760 --> 03:08:35,429
>> Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you

4383
03:08:35,429 --> 03:08:35,439
» Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you

4384
03:08:35,439 --> 03:08:38,560
for the update.

4385
03:08:38,560 --> 03:08:41,040
Um, council members, we're going to go

4386
03:08:41,040 --> 03:08:44,640
to C item number H, which uh eight uh

4387
03:08:44,640 --> 03:08:47,840
which is uh CIP uh capital improvement

4388
03:08:47,840 --> 03:08:52,080
program follow-up. Um now we have uh

4389
03:08:52,080 --> 03:08:54,319
we'll welcome Kar Council policy analyst

4390
03:08:54,319 --> 03:08:56,080
to the table and we also have our

4391
03:08:56,080 --> 03:08:59,120
spreadsheets in front of us. So it's

4392
03:08:59,120 --> 03:08:59,920
your time.

4393
03:08:59,920 --> 03:09:03,190
>> Great. Thank you. Um, you might want to

4394
03:09:03,190 --> 03:09:03,200
» Great. Thank you. Um, you might want to

4395
03:09:03,200 --> 03:09:05,520
get those candy bowls a little closer to

4396
03:09:05,520 --> 03:09:08,006
you because we have an hour and

4397
03:09:08,006 --> 03:09:09,920
[laughter] it's going to be real fun,

4398
03:09:09,920 --> 03:09:13,920
but it's a lot. So, um, just a little

4399
03:09:13,920 --> 03:09:16,240
reminder, last week we had our first

4400
03:09:16,240 --> 03:09:17,600
conversation about the capital

4401
03:09:17,600 --> 03:09:20,880
improvement program or CIP, and we went

4402
03:09:20,880 --> 03:09:22,640
over the different funding sources, how

4403
03:09:22,640 --> 03:09:24,080
many applications we have. As a

4404
03:09:24,080 --> 03:09:27,040
reminder, there's 76 applications, 32 of

4405
03:09:27,040 --> 03:09:29,200
which came from the departments, 42 from

4406
03:09:29,200 --> 03:09:32,720
constituents. total asks were over $58

4407
03:09:32,720 --> 03:09:36,399
million. There's $34.9 million to go

4408
03:09:36,399 --> 03:09:39,680
around. So, um on our funding logs that

4409
03:09:39,680 --> 03:09:42,880
you have in front of you, um you can see

4410
03:09:42,880 --> 03:09:45,120
the different funding sources. If we

4411
03:09:45,120 --> 03:09:47,680
want to review those funding sources, we

4412
03:09:47,680 --> 03:09:50,240
can. If we don't want to, we don't need

4413
03:09:50,240 --> 03:09:52,080
to. So, if any questions come up, just

4414
03:09:52,080 --> 03:09:54,000
interrupt me because I'm going to keep

4415
03:09:54,000 --> 03:09:57,200
going and try and keep this exciting.

4416
03:09:57,200 --> 03:09:59,600
So, um,

4417
03:09:59,600 --> 03:10:01,439
the orange section on that funding log

4418
03:10:01,439 --> 03:10:03,520
is the funding sources. Up above the

4419
03:10:03,520 --> 03:10:05,760
orange section on page one, you can see

4420
03:10:05,760 --> 03:10:07,600
the total amount available for each of

4421
03:10:07,600 --> 03:10:09,680
those different funding sources. As a

4422
03:10:09,680 --> 03:10:11,279
reminder, the general fund and

4423
03:10:11,279 --> 03:10:13,920
restricted property tax are the most

4424
03:10:13,920 --> 03:10:16,080
flexible funds and could go for

4425
03:10:16,080 --> 03:10:20,479
anything. Um, just as a reminder, we'll

4426
03:10:20,479 --> 03:10:23,600
look at one row al together. Um, for

4427
03:10:23,600 --> 03:10:26,720
project number one here we have a one

4428
03:10:26,720 --> 03:10:28,560
that gives us the number. So if we want

4429
03:10:28,560 --> 03:10:30,240
to bounce around a little bit, we can go

4430
03:10:30,240 --> 03:10:32,240
by the number there. The district

4431
03:10:32,240 --> 03:10:34,960
numbers in the next column. CW means

4432
03:10:34,960 --> 03:10:38,000
citywide. Um, citywide can be anywhere

4433
03:10:38,000 --> 03:10:42,000
from two districts to all the districts.

4434
03:10:42,000 --> 03:10:44,080
There are more details in the summary

4435
03:10:44,080 --> 03:10:46,399
section which has the title of the

4436
03:10:46,399 --> 03:10:50,240
project and the division that is

4437
03:10:50,240 --> 03:10:52,960
requesting it or it'll say constituent

4438
03:10:52,960 --> 03:10:54,720
application if it's a constituent

4439
03:10:54,720 --> 03:10:56,399
application and then the division that

4440
03:10:56,399 --> 03:10:59,439
the constituent worked with. Um a great

4441
03:10:59,439 --> 03:11:01,680
example I'll point it out when we get to

4442
03:11:01,680 --> 03:11:04,560
it, but the first we'll see is um

4443
03:11:04,560 --> 03:11:07,120
project number 23 is a constituent

4444
03:11:07,120 --> 03:11:08,720
application. That's the first one we'll

4445
03:11:08,720 --> 03:11:11,359
we'll see of that. So summary of the

4446
03:11:11,359 --> 03:11:13,439
application. If we want more details,

4447
03:11:13,439 --> 03:11:17,279
it's available in the CIP book. And then

4448
03:11:17,279 --> 03:11:19,200
the next column has the totals. So the

4449
03:11:19,200 --> 03:11:21,840
total requested amount, the amount that

4450
03:11:21,840 --> 03:11:24,800
that the CDCIP board recommended, and

4451
03:11:24,800 --> 03:11:26,880
the amount that the mayor recommended.

4452
03:11:26,880 --> 03:11:28,399
And then if you follow it to the right,

4453
03:11:28,399 --> 03:11:29,359
you can see where those different

4454
03:11:29,359 --> 03:11:32,960
funding sources came from. And then when

4455
03:11:32,960 --> 03:11:34,960
we get to that point, we'll have the

4456
03:11:34,960 --> 03:11:37,279
council your your recommendations and

4457
03:11:37,279 --> 03:11:38,960
final well, not your recommendations,

4458
03:11:38,960 --> 03:11:41,439
what you decide to find.

4459
03:11:41,439 --> 03:11:44,319
Questions or are we ready to go?

4460
03:11:44,319 --> 03:11:45,190
>> Let's do this.

4461
03:11:45,190 --> 03:11:45,200
» Let's do this.

4462
03:11:45,200 --> 03:11:45,910
>> So ready.

4463
03:11:45,910 --> 03:11:45,920
» So ready.

4464
03:11:45,920 --> 03:11:47,990
>> Interrupt me. I'm going to be looking

4465
03:11:47,990 --> 03:11:48,000
» Interrupt me. I'm going to be looking

4466
03:11:48,000 --> 03:11:50,880
for a head nod. I'm going to keep going.

4467
03:11:50,880 --> 03:11:52,479
Get get this going fast. Okay. Number

4468
03:11:52,479 --> 03:11:55,040
one, street reconstruction. They

4469
03:11:55,040 --> 03:11:58,080
requested $2.3 million for this. The

4470
03:11:58,080 --> 03:12:01,279
focus is going to be on several streets

4471
03:12:01,279 --> 03:12:05,040
listed in that second paragraph. Um, and

4472
03:12:05,040 --> 03:12:07,040
as I mentioned, reconstruction. So, this

4473
03:12:07,040 --> 03:12:09,600
is like the whole street going away. So

4474
03:12:09,600 --> 03:12:13,920
200 South um 5 600 East

4475
03:12:13,920 --> 03:12:17,520
um Gilmore Drive 900 South Emerson

4476
03:12:17,520 --> 03:12:20,000
Avenue Texas Street which overlaps with

4477
03:12:20,000 --> 03:12:22,960
CIP application from a constituent

4478
03:12:22,960 --> 03:12:25,120
depending on how far the funding goes

4479
03:12:25,120 --> 03:12:27,040
but it should go that far would be my

4480
03:12:27,040 --> 03:12:28,960
expectation just based on where it came

4481
03:12:28,960 --> 03:12:32,479
in on that list. Um, also I wanted to

4482
03:12:32,479 --> 03:12:34,880
point out that the majority of the

4483
03:12:34,880 --> 03:12:36,800
people in the audience right now are the

4484
03:12:36,800 --> 03:12:38,479
from the administration and here to

4485
03:12:38,479 --> 03:12:39,760
answer your questions.

4486
03:12:39,760 --> 03:12:41,990
>> Yeah. Yeah. So just a quick

4487
03:12:41,990 --> 03:12:42,000
» Yeah. Yeah. So just a quick

4488
03:12:42,000 --> 03:12:44,560
clarification to what you just said. Are

4489
03:12:44,560 --> 03:12:47,040
these streets listed in a prioritized

4490
03:12:47,040 --> 03:12:50,640
order or is it a this is what we hope to

4491
03:12:50,640 --> 03:12:52,560
address and we'll have to make

4492
03:12:52,560 --> 03:12:53,840
decisions?

4493
03:12:53,840 --> 03:12:55,030
>> Mark will answer that.

4494
03:12:55,030 --> 03:12:55,040
» Mark will answer that.

4495
03:12:55,040 --> 03:12:57,110
>> Thank you.

4496
03:12:57,110 --> 03:12:57,120
» Thank you.

4497
03:12:57,120 --> 03:12:59,670
>> Uh Mark Stevens, city engineer. Uh this

4498
03:12:59,670 --> 03:12:59,680
» Uh Mark Stevens, city engineer. Uh this

4499
03:12:59,680 --> 03:13:02,960
is our uh goal to be able to get to as

4500
03:13:02,960 --> 03:13:04,960
many of these projects as possible. A

4501
03:13:04,960 --> 03:13:07,120
lot of the times what depends on how

4502
03:13:07,120 --> 03:13:09,200
much of a project we can do, we're

4503
03:13:09,200 --> 03:13:11,520
legally required to have an engineer's

4504
03:13:11,520 --> 03:13:13,600
estimate that meets what the project

4505
03:13:13,600 --> 03:13:15,680
proposed budget is before we can

4506
03:13:15,680 --> 03:13:18,080
advertise it out for bids. If we get

4507
03:13:18,080 --> 03:13:20,319
back favorable bids, uh which we have

4508
03:13:20,319 --> 03:13:22,240
seen uh this past year, then we can put

4509
03:13:22,240 --> 03:13:24,560
out even more projects. So this is the

4510
03:13:24,560 --> 03:13:27,120
estimated uh goal of projects that we'll

4511
03:13:27,120 --> 03:13:29,359
be doing with this fiscal year 27 money

4512
03:13:29,359 --> 03:13:32,800
and then favorable bids uh and other

4513
03:13:32,800 --> 03:13:34,239
funding sources they become available

4514
03:13:34,239 --> 03:13:36,880
will allow us to add to this.

4515
03:13:36,880 --> 03:13:39,510
>> Okay, that's helpful. Just timelinewise

4516
03:13:39,510 --> 03:13:39,520
» Okay, that's helpful. Just timelinewise

4517
03:13:39,520 --> 03:13:42,399
in terms of bids, do you have a sense of

4518
03:13:42,399 --> 03:13:45,120
like how long that process takes?

4519
03:13:45,120 --> 03:13:46,640
depending upon the size of the project.

4520
03:13:46,640 --> 03:13:48,479
If we've got very complex projects where

4521
03:13:48,479 --> 03:13:51,120
we have a lot of public engagement, say

4522
03:13:51,120 --> 03:13:55,600
a 2100 south, a 300 west, uh 200 south,

4523
03:13:55,600 --> 03:13:58,239
usually two-year design and a year

4524
03:13:58,239 --> 03:14:00,319
two-year construction. And during that

4525
03:14:00,319 --> 03:14:02,160
two-year design is public engagement

4526
03:14:02,160 --> 03:14:04,720
concept uh to about 40% which

4527
03:14:04,720 --> 03:14:06,720
transportation division handles and

4528
03:14:06,720 --> 03:14:08,640
their outreach and then engineering

4529
03:14:08,640 --> 03:14:12,000
takes it over from 40% to uh final

4530
03:14:12,000 --> 03:14:13,680
design construction drawings bidding

4531
03:14:13,680 --> 03:14:16,399
construction and ribbon cutting uh at

4532
03:14:16,399 --> 03:14:18,479
the end. So uh depending upon the

4533
03:14:18,479 --> 03:14:20,560
complexity could be a year design could

4534
03:14:20,560 --> 03:14:22,640
be two years design and then same for

4535
03:14:22,640 --> 03:14:24,560
construction could be a year two years.

4536
03:14:24,560 --> 03:14:28,150
>> Okay. Um, I guess my my question slash

4537
03:14:28,150 --> 03:14:28,160
» Okay. Um, I guess my my question slash

4538
03:14:28,160 --> 03:14:31,600
request is that as soon as we know

4539
03:14:31,600 --> 03:14:33,359
whether or not some of these like

4540
03:14:33,359 --> 03:14:35,040
streets I guess that are lower on the

4541
03:14:35,040 --> 03:14:39,040
list um would be eligible to be included

4542
03:14:39,040 --> 03:14:41,200
in the funding if you can just let us

4543
03:14:41,200 --> 03:14:44,239
know. I just I I know the resident for

4544
03:14:44,239 --> 03:14:46,239
Texas Street who's been applying for

4545
03:14:46,239 --> 03:14:49,120
CIP. I think this is their third if not

4546
03:14:49,120 --> 03:14:50,000
fourth year.

4547
03:14:50,000 --> 03:14:52,389
>> Absolutely. Um, and I would just like to

4548
03:14:52,389 --> 03:14:52,399
» Absolutely. Um, and I would just like to

4549
03:14:52,399 --> 03:14:54,160
counsel them one way or another to

4550
03:14:54,160 --> 03:14:56,399
whether or not participating in a future

4551
03:14:56,399 --> 03:14:59,600
round is in their best interest or if

4552
03:14:59,600 --> 03:15:01,920
they hang their hopes on we would be

4553
03:15:01,920 --> 03:15:03,520
included in this space.

4554
03:15:03,520 --> 03:15:05,349
>> And and I apologize I didn't answer your

4555
03:15:05,349 --> 03:15:05,359
» And and I apologize I didn't answer your

4556
03:15:05,359 --> 03:15:07,680
first question. Is the list prioritized

4557
03:15:07,680 --> 03:15:09,600
the way it's ordered? The answer is no.

4558
03:15:09,600 --> 03:15:11,840
So all of these the funding for that is

4559
03:15:11,840 --> 03:15:14,080
the way we've listed them out. Uh based

4560
03:15:14,080 --> 03:15:15,920
upon the favorable bids we have been

4561
03:15:15,920 --> 03:15:17,120
getting in the market that we're in

4562
03:15:17,120 --> 03:15:19,920
currently. I would see very favorably

4563
03:15:19,920 --> 03:15:22,319
that all of these could be done. So, uh,

4564
03:15:22,319 --> 03:15:24,000
and we'll look into that. Uh the other

4565
03:15:24,000 --> 03:15:26,479
thing that we're also looking into is uh

4566
03:15:26,479 --> 03:15:29,840
as the 2018 uh general obligation bond

4567
03:15:29,840 --> 03:15:33,040
wraps up, there were uh bond interest

4568
03:15:33,040 --> 03:15:35,920
funds that were obtained from that. We

4569
03:15:35,920 --> 03:15:39,200
have been working to replace any class C

4570
03:15:39,200 --> 03:15:42,239
money uh that we utilized along the

4571
03:15:42,239 --> 03:15:45,040
entire 2018 general obligation bond with

4572
03:15:45,040 --> 03:15:46,800
those bond interest funds, which frees

4573
03:15:46,800 --> 03:15:48,319
up that money to be able to use for

4574
03:15:48,319 --> 03:15:49,760
projects like this and supplement as

4575
03:15:49,760 --> 03:15:50,399
needed.

4576
03:15:50,399 --> 03:15:54,229
>> Great. Thank you so much.

4577
03:15:54,229 --> 03:15:54,239
» Great. Thank you so much.

4578
03:15:54,239 --> 03:15:56,640
Great.

4579
03:15:56,640 --> 03:15:57,110
>> We're good.

4580
03:15:57,110 --> 03:15:57,120
» We're good.

4581
03:15:57,120 --> 03:16:00,150
>> No. Okay, let's move on. Number two, I

4582
03:16:00,150 --> 03:16:00,160
» No. Okay, let's move on. Number two, I

4583
03:16:00,160 --> 03:16:01,520
want to point out that project number

4584
03:16:01,520 --> 03:16:03,359
two and project number three are the

4585
03:16:03,359 --> 03:16:05,600
only two projects that have a match

4586
03:16:05,600 --> 03:16:07,520
requirement and are receiving funding

4587
03:16:07,520 --> 03:16:09,760
from other sources. So, with number two,

4588
03:16:09,760 --> 03:16:13,520
it's a match with the county. Um there

4589
03:16:13,520 --> 03:16:16,399
it's a 50/50 cost share with the county

4590
03:16:16,399 --> 03:16:18,479
to replace the culinary water line for

4591
03:16:18,479 --> 03:16:22,550
Sugar House Park.

4592
03:16:22,560 --> 03:16:30,070
Okay, I'm gonna move on. Um, oh,

4593
03:16:30,080 --> 03:16:31,359
» who needs water?

4594
03:16:31,359 --> 03:16:33,349
>> Well, unwashed food is having a moment.

4595
03:16:33,349 --> 03:16:33,359
» Well, unwashed food is having a moment.

4596
03:16:33,359 --> 03:16:36,630
>> I think I think culinary water is

4597
03:16:36,630 --> 03:16:36,640
» I think I think culinary water is

4598
03:16:36,640 --> 03:16:39,840
important for anyone who uses the water

4599
03:16:39,840 --> 03:16:42,160
fountains or even the dog water

4600
03:16:42,160 --> 03:16:44,399
fountains. Like, do we do we want them

4601
03:16:44,399 --> 03:16:47,760
drinking lead? No, we don't. Um, yeah. I

4602
03:16:47,760 --> 03:16:50,160
think I think the biggest thing and I

4603
03:16:50,160 --> 03:16:51,520
really appreciate this being

4604
03:16:51,520 --> 03:16:53,600
prioritized. It is a huge need. It's an

4605
03:16:53,600 --> 03:16:56,239
ongoing need. Um and it's it's in the

4606
03:16:56,239 --> 03:16:58,000
top priorities for the Sugar House Park

4607
03:16:58,000 --> 03:17:00,880
Authority. Um and just putting it out to

4608
03:17:00,880 --> 03:17:04,319
the universe. We are so grateful to our

4609
03:17:04,319 --> 03:17:06,399
friends at the county for helping us

4610
03:17:06,399 --> 03:17:08,800
find their matching funds um so that we

4611
03:17:08,800 --> 03:17:10,239
can help projects like this move

4612
03:17:10,239 --> 03:17:13,670
forward. We

4613
03:17:13,680 --> 03:17:15,439
didn't meant to make you advocate for

4614
03:17:15,439 --> 03:17:16,880
this one, but thank you for advocating

4615
03:17:16,880 --> 03:17:20,000
for you. I know you are.

4616
03:17:20,000 --> 03:17:21,590
>> Great.

4617
03:17:21,590 --> 03:17:21,600
» Great.

4618
03:17:21,600 --> 03:17:24,880
Project number three um is green the

4619
03:17:24,880 --> 03:17:28,960
green bike project. Um it this one has

4620
03:17:28,960 --> 03:17:31,359
the match also with the city putting

4621
03:17:31,359 --> 03:17:35,040
forward 57 just over $57,000.

4622
03:17:35,040 --> 03:17:38,800
Um we will receive $792,000

4623
03:17:38,800 --> 03:17:40,640
from the federal government. Um they

4624
03:17:40,640 --> 03:17:43,600
have rounded this number up to $65,000

4625
03:17:43,600 --> 03:17:46,720
with the extra being used to replace um

4626
03:17:46,720 --> 03:17:50,239
damaged, rusted, missing bike racks or

4627
03:17:50,239 --> 03:17:53,200
bike corrals. So,

4628
03:17:53,200 --> 03:17:56,389
>> I might be, you know, I just want us to

4629
03:17:56,389 --> 03:17:56,399
» I might be, you know, I just want us to

4630
03:17:56,399 --> 03:17:58,800
track this extra little funding here

4631
03:17:58,800 --> 03:18:01,760
because we may I certainly have

4632
03:18:01,760 --> 03:18:03,279
something that I would like to pitch in

4633
03:18:03,279 --> 03:18:04,880
some money for, but I'm sure that maybe

4634
03:18:04,880 --> 03:18:07,200
some of us have some other thoughts, but

4635
03:18:07,200 --> 03:18:09,200
I wanted to highlight this little extra

4636
03:18:09,200 --> 03:18:11,040
gap between what is needed and what is

4637
03:18:11,040 --> 03:18:11,920
recommended.

4638
03:18:11,920 --> 03:18:14,389
>> I I agree with that. I was also noticing

4639
03:18:14,389 --> 03:18:14,399
» I I agree with that. I was also noticing

4640
03:18:14,399 --> 03:18:16,560
um thinking about just the match and

4641
03:18:16,560 --> 03:18:19,600
then what might be some leftover.

4642
03:18:19,600 --> 03:18:20,950
>> Great.

4643
03:18:20,950 --> 03:18:20,960
» Great.

4644
03:18:20,960 --> 03:18:25,040
Okay, let's go to project number four.

4645
03:18:25,040 --> 03:18:27,600
Um, this one is our public way concrete

4646
03:18:27,600 --> 03:18:30,720
replacement and rehabilitation program.

4647
03:18:30,720 --> 03:18:33,279
Um, this is an annual request for

4648
03:18:33,279 --> 03:18:35,120
$750,000.

4649
03:18:35,120 --> 03:18:38,000
Um, I believe many of you have met with

4650
03:18:38,000 --> 03:18:41,040
with um public services regarding this

4651
03:18:41,040 --> 03:18:44,399
recently. Um,

4652
03:18:44,399 --> 03:18:47,359
any questions?

4653
03:18:47,359 --> 03:18:51,279
Great. Okay. Um, next up is the traffic

4654
03:18:51,279 --> 03:18:54,000
signal replacement upgrade. Um, their

4655
03:18:54,000 --> 03:18:58,160
request was for $2.5 million. Um, CIP

4656
03:18:58,160 --> 03:19:01,200
CDCIP and the mayor both recommended $2

4657
03:19:01,200 --> 03:19:05,520
million for this. Um, as a heads up, um,

4658
03:19:05,520 --> 03:19:08,800
several, we have some really old street

4659
03:19:08,800 --> 03:19:11,359
lights out there or traffic signals out

4660
03:19:11,359 --> 03:19:14,160
there. Um, when they no longer work, um,

4661
03:19:14,160 --> 03:19:17,680
they they don't track with the traffic.

4662
03:19:17,680 --> 03:19:20,319
they just go on a timer system instead

4663
03:19:20,319 --> 03:19:21,680
or they fail.

4664
03:19:21,680 --> 03:19:23,269
>> Okay, let me ask a few questions here

4665
03:19:23,269 --> 03:19:23,279
» Okay, let me ask a few questions here

4666
03:19:23,279 --> 03:19:24,399
and I think I would love some

4667
03:19:24,399 --> 03:19:28,800
information. The um I know that the city

4668
03:19:28,800 --> 03:19:30,960
has been trying to replace all those

4669
03:19:30,960 --> 03:19:35,680
cable uh street lights. Uh I think that

4670
03:19:35,680 --> 03:19:37,680
was like an explanation that was given

4671
03:19:37,680 --> 03:19:40,880
to us years ago. I I'm sure that there

4672
03:19:40,880 --> 03:19:42,720
is a reason beyond they're not as pretty

4673
03:19:42,720 --> 03:19:46,800
as the other ones. Um, I also notice the

4674
03:19:46,800 --> 03:19:47,920
cable street lights.

4675
03:19:47,920 --> 03:19:48,790
>> I'm sorry, not you.

4676
03:19:48,790 --> 03:19:48,800
» I'm sorry, not you.

4677
03:19:48,800 --> 03:19:50,790
>> Oh, you're making you're looking at me.

4678
03:19:50,790 --> 03:19:50,800
» Oh, you're making you're looking at me.

4679
03:19:50,800 --> 03:19:55,359
Um, you're scaring me there. Um, the um,

4680
03:19:55,359 --> 03:19:58,080
but the the also the cost of the street

4681
03:19:58,080 --> 03:20:01,279
lights is just so expensive. Uh, and to

4682
03:20:01,279 --> 03:20:02,960
me I I was wondering if there is a way

4683
03:20:02,960 --> 03:20:04,960
of

4684
03:20:04,960 --> 03:20:07,279
um I'm not necessarily talking about

4685
03:20:07,279 --> 03:20:10,880
this one funding specifically, but um to

4686
03:20:10,880 --> 03:20:15,279
think about this uh and maybe um

4687
03:20:15,279 --> 03:20:16,960
I would love more explanation about why

4688
03:20:16,960 --> 03:20:19,840
the cable maybe is the why not the cable

4689
03:20:19,840 --> 03:20:22,239
um and are there smaller upgrades we can

4690
03:20:22,239 --> 03:20:25,439
make into those systems to you know buy

4691
03:20:25,439 --> 03:20:28,000
ourselves more time instead of investing

4692
03:20:28,000 --> 03:20:30,800
almost millions of dollars in a

4693
03:20:30,800 --> 03:20:32,399
a couple street lights. They're so so

4694
03:20:32,399 --> 03:20:34,080
expensive. I'm shocked how expensive

4695
03:20:34,080 --> 03:20:36,880
they are. Council member Petro.

4696
03:20:36,880 --> 03:20:38,950
>> Um,

4697
03:20:38,950 --> 03:20:38,960
» Um,

4698
03:20:38,960 --> 03:20:42,800
so I am interested in if we had the

4699
03:20:42,800 --> 03:20:46,960
magic wand, how many should we how many

4700
03:20:46,960 --> 03:20:49,439
new ones would we need to keep pace with

4701
03:20:49,439 --> 03:20:51,600
growth and how many would we need to

4702
03:20:51,600 --> 03:20:54,239
replace on an annual basis if we just

4703
03:20:54,239 --> 03:20:56,080
couldn't just had a magic wand and could

4704
03:20:56,080 --> 03:20:58,160
do whatever we wanted?

4705
03:20:58,160 --> 03:21:00,479
Okay, great questions. Lynn Jacobs, city

4706
03:21:00,479 --> 03:21:03,279
transportation uh director and uh maybe

4707
03:21:03,279 --> 03:21:05,359
I'll start with with your your question

4708
03:21:05,359 --> 03:21:07,439
about the catary line. So, we call it an

4709
03:21:07,439 --> 03:21:09,520
overhead catary system and that's where

4710
03:21:09,520 --> 03:21:11,040
you have the cables and the signal heads

4711
03:21:11,040 --> 03:21:12,960
hang from those cables. That was the

4712
03:21:12,960 --> 03:21:15,439
technology like 90 years ago. The all

4713
03:21:15,439 --> 03:21:16,880
the signals that you see that are like

4714
03:21:16,880 --> 03:21:18,239
that like 90

4715
03:21:18,239 --> 03:21:18,870
>> oh

4716
03:21:18,870 --> 03:21:18,880
» oh

4717
03:21:18,880 --> 03:21:20,870
>> most of the signals you see are like 80

4718
03:21:20,870 --> 03:21:20,880
» most of the signals you see are like 80

4719
03:21:20,880 --> 03:21:22,880
90 years old when you see that that

4720
03:21:22,880 --> 03:21:24,720
configuration. The the biggest problem

4721
03:21:24,720 --> 03:21:26,080
we have with those is that they swing in

4722
03:21:26,080 --> 03:21:28,160
the wind. So if we have a windstorm, you

4723
03:21:28,160 --> 03:21:31,279
can't see that signal head. Um other

4724
03:21:31,279 --> 03:21:32,960
other parts of the country, they still

4725
03:21:32,960 --> 03:21:35,359
use them, but we as a state really avoid

4726
03:21:35,359 --> 03:21:36,880
them because of the snow and wind issues

4727
03:21:36,880 --> 03:21:39,040
that we have here. And so we've really

4728
03:21:39,040 --> 03:21:40,479
been trying to upgrade and move away

4729
03:21:40,479 --> 03:21:42,319
from those. When you see those older

4730
03:21:42,319 --> 03:21:44,800
signals, the real problem is the actual

4731
03:21:44,800 --> 03:21:46,720
the all the other infrastructure that's

4732
03:21:46,720 --> 03:21:48,080
involved. So you see the traffic

4733
03:21:48,080 --> 03:21:49,439
signals, you think, okay, I've got a

4734
03:21:49,439 --> 03:21:51,600
pole, I've got a a mast arm, a couple of

4735
03:21:51,600 --> 03:21:53,680
heads. There is so much more that goes

4736
03:21:53,680 --> 03:21:56,080
into a signal. Um, there's a massive

4737
03:21:56,080 --> 03:21:58,160
cabinet that has a a very high-end

4738
03:21:58,160 --> 03:21:59,920
computer in it that runs the signal and

4739
03:21:59,920 --> 03:22:02,160
tells it what to do. Uh, it has to be

4740
03:22:02,160 --> 03:22:04,960
connected via fiber back to um our

4741
03:22:04,960 --> 03:22:07,359
system so that we can manage and modify

4742
03:22:07,359 --> 03:22:09,840
and work on that signal remotely.

4743
03:22:09,840 --> 03:22:11,359
There's just so much that goes into it.

4744
03:22:11,359 --> 03:22:13,600
Um, as mentioned in the CIP application,

4745
03:22:13,600 --> 03:22:14,880
one of the critical things here is how

4746
03:22:14,880 --> 03:22:17,359
the signal detects people. So, if it's

4747
03:22:17,359 --> 03:22:19,520
detecting you and it knows you're there,

4748
03:22:19,520 --> 03:22:21,040
it can operate so much more efficiently

4749
03:22:21,040 --> 03:22:23,600
and intelligently. It's one of the very

4750
03:22:23,600 --> 03:22:24,800
first things that will break in a signal

4751
03:22:24,800 --> 03:22:27,439
is the detection system. And so once

4752
03:22:27,439 --> 03:22:29,200
that happens, then it goes back to this

4753
03:22:29,200 --> 03:22:32,080
default pre-timed condition. That's just

4754
03:22:32,080 --> 03:22:33,760
really frustrating for drivers because

4755
03:22:33,760 --> 03:22:35,840
you're sitting there and you're seeing

4756
03:22:35,840 --> 03:22:37,120
that you have a red light and you don't

4757
03:22:37,120 --> 03:22:39,680
see any obvious reason why you do. And

4758
03:22:39,680 --> 03:22:41,600
so we're always constantly trying to

4759
03:22:41,600 --> 03:22:42,960
partner with UD do and partner with

4760
03:22:42,960 --> 03:22:45,279
federal agencies to get more money to do

4761
03:22:45,279 --> 03:22:47,359
these upgrades. But honestly, it's a

4762
03:22:47,359 --> 03:22:49,760
it's a thing that has definitely been

4763
03:22:49,760 --> 03:22:51,439
neglected over the years and we have a

4764
03:22:51,439 --> 03:22:53,359
massive backlog of signal issues to deal

4765
03:22:53,359 --> 03:22:55,760
with. And so, uh, Council Member Petro,

4766
03:22:55,760 --> 03:22:57,760
to answer your question, I think we

4767
03:22:57,760 --> 03:22:59,680
typically see about one or two signals a

4768
03:22:59,680 --> 03:23:01,200
year that we we really should be

4769
03:23:01,200 --> 03:23:03,600
installing new ones. I think the the

4770
03:23:03,600 --> 03:23:05,760
most recent example of that up on 2100

4771
03:23:05,760 --> 03:23:08,560
North out by uh Boeing's facility out

4772
03:23:08,560 --> 03:23:09,279
there.

4773
03:23:09,279 --> 03:23:11,349
>> They've experienced such massive rapid

4774
03:23:11,349 --> 03:23:11,359
» They've experienced such massive rapid

4775
03:23:11,359 --> 03:23:13,760
growth out there. And I I don't know if

4776
03:23:13,760 --> 03:23:14,960
you experienced it, but the traffic

4777
03:23:14,960 --> 03:23:17,359
backups were horrendous. And now we've

4778
03:23:17,359 --> 03:23:19,439
got that signal in place. And it's been

4779
03:23:19,439 --> 03:23:21,279
just a huge improvement for all the

4780
03:23:21,279 --> 03:23:22,479
people working at the airport and all

4781
03:23:22,479 --> 03:23:24,319
the people in that area. I think with

4782
03:23:24,319 --> 03:23:25,840
the growth in the northwest quadrant,

4783
03:23:25,840 --> 03:23:27,120
we're going to see more and more need

4784
03:23:27,120 --> 03:23:28,880
for that. So, if we could fund

4785
03:23:28,880 --> 03:23:30,560
constructing one or two a year, it would

4786
03:23:30,560 --> 03:23:33,040
really help us. But the backlog we have,

4787
03:23:33,040 --> 03:23:34,880
we really need to be rebuilding a couple

4788
03:23:34,880 --> 03:23:37,920
of these every year. Um, a a new signal

4789
03:23:37,920 --> 03:23:40,239
costs about half a million dollars. And

4790
03:23:40,239 --> 03:23:42,000
it's shocking to me because when I

4791
03:23:42,000 --> 03:23:43,520
started my career, that number was like

4792
03:23:43,520 --> 03:23:45,279
$200,000.

4793
03:23:45,279 --> 03:23:46,870
>> This is one of the things that has seen

4794
03:23:46,870 --> 03:23:46,880
» This is one of the things that has seen

4795
03:23:46,880 --> 03:23:48,880
the biggest inflation of anything in our

4796
03:23:48,880 --> 03:23:51,359
industry. And honestly, it's hard to say

4797
03:23:51,359 --> 03:23:53,359
why. Uh the technology is constantly

4798
03:23:53,359 --> 03:23:56,000
being upgraded. They're moving to LAR

4799
03:23:56,000 --> 03:23:57,920
now. So that's kind of the new detection

4800
03:23:57,920 --> 03:23:59,760
technology that's out there. U DOT is

4801
03:23:59,760 --> 03:24:02,000
way on board with LAR, and we're seeing

4802
03:24:02,000 --> 03:24:04,880
some real advantages. the new LAR units,

4803
03:24:04,880 --> 03:24:06,399
they can actually sense if a pedestrian

4804
03:24:06,399 --> 03:24:08,319
is still in the crosswalk and they can

4805
03:24:08,319 --> 03:24:10,399
hold the signal so that that pedestrian

4806
03:24:10,399 --> 03:24:11,600
can get out of the intersection before

4807
03:24:11,600 --> 03:24:12,640
they let traffic go.

4808
03:24:12,640 --> 03:24:13,190
>> Wow.

4809
03:24:13,190 --> 03:24:13,200
» Wow.

4810
03:24:13,200 --> 03:24:15,190
>> So, there's some huge advantages if we

4811
03:24:15,190 --> 03:24:15,200
» So, there's some huge advantages if we

4812
03:24:15,200 --> 03:24:16,720
can just upgrade our system and make it

4813
03:24:16,720 --> 03:24:19,040
work more intelligently. It seems like a

4814
03:24:19,040 --> 03:24:20,880
lot of money, but it's a really good

4815
03:24:20,880 --> 03:24:22,479
investment to make for

4816
03:24:22,479 --> 03:24:24,309
>> quality of life for people that are out

4817
03:24:24,309 --> 03:24:24,319
» quality of life for people that are out

4818
03:24:24,319 --> 03:24:24,720
there.

4819
03:24:24,720 --> 03:24:28,630
>> Are there grants on this space uh that

4820
03:24:28,630 --> 03:24:28,640
» Are there grants on this space uh that

4821
03:24:28,640 --> 03:24:31,680
we should maybe be pursuing more? Yeah,

4822
03:24:31,680 --> 03:24:33,200
there there are actually. And so one of

4823
03:24:33,200 --> 03:24:34,640
the things we've recently applied for is

4824
03:24:34,640 --> 03:24:37,120
an SS4A grant to try to get some

4825
03:24:37,120 --> 03:24:39,600
funding. The SS4A is the safe streets

4826
03:24:39,600 --> 03:24:41,840
for all. Um Robin Hutchinson, the former

4827
03:24:41,840 --> 03:24:43,279
director of transportation, was actually

4828
03:24:43,279 --> 03:24:44,800
instrumental in making that program

4829
03:24:44,800 --> 03:24:47,680
happen. Um so we've applied for a grant

4830
03:24:47,680 --> 03:24:50,239
this year and we're intending to use

4831
03:24:50,239 --> 03:24:52,880
that that grant if we're successful for

4832
03:24:52,880 --> 03:24:54,880
LAR upgrades. And if we're successful,

4833
03:24:54,880 --> 03:24:57,040
we're going to do a ton of that and

4834
03:24:57,040 --> 03:24:58,399
hopefully get a lot of these upgrades

4835
03:24:58,399 --> 03:24:59,920
done without having to fully, like you

4836
03:24:59,920 --> 03:25:02,160
said, fully replace the whole signal. If

4837
03:25:02,160 --> 03:25:03,760
we can just upgrade the detection, that

4838
03:25:03,760 --> 03:25:05,279
gets us a long ways towards where we

4839
03:25:05,279 --> 03:25:06,239
want to be.

4840
03:25:06,239 --> 03:25:07,910
>> So, we're trying to be smart about it.

4841
03:25:07,910 --> 03:25:07,920
» So, we're trying to be smart about it.

4842
03:25:07,920 --> 03:25:10,790
>> So, does this then represent the total

4843
03:25:10,790 --> 03:25:10,800
» So, does this then represent the total

4844
03:25:10,800 --> 03:25:13,120
budget for the year for all of the

4845
03:25:13,120 --> 03:25:15,040
traffic lights throughout the city?

4846
03:25:15,040 --> 03:25:16,469
>> This is what we're requesting for this

4847
03:25:16,469 --> 03:25:16,479
» This is what we're requesting for this

4848
03:25:16,479 --> 03:25:18,640
year to go out and strategically replace

4849
03:25:18,640 --> 03:25:19,520
a few old ones,

4850
03:25:19,520 --> 03:25:21,110
>> but this doesn't supplement something in

4851
03:25:21,110 --> 03:25:21,120
» but this doesn't supplement something in

4852
03:25:21,120 --> 03:25:22,960
the in the general budget as well. This

4853
03:25:22,960 --> 03:25:24,160
is exclusively it.

4854
03:25:24,160 --> 03:25:24,870
>> It is.

4855
03:25:24,870 --> 03:25:24,880
» It is.

4856
03:25:24,880 --> 03:25:26,550
>> All right. Who wants to start the

4857
03:25:26,550 --> 03:25:26,560
» All right. Who wants to start the

4858
03:25:26,560 --> 03:25:27,896
traffic light company with me?

4859
03:25:27,896 --> 03:25:29,760
[laughter] We'll sell it for just $450.

4860
03:25:29,760 --> 03:25:31,920
Cost savings.

4861
03:25:31,920 --> 03:25:33,750
>> Yes.

4862
03:25:33,750 --> 03:25:33,760
» Yes.

4863
03:25:33,760 --> 03:25:36,150
>> Just to kind of tie into that, the

4864
03:25:36,150 --> 03:25:36,160
» Just to kind of tie into that, the

4865
03:25:36,160 --> 03:25:37,920
streets division does maintenance on all

4866
03:25:37,920 --> 03:25:39,680
these signals. So, as Lynn was

4867
03:25:39,680 --> 03:25:41,439
describing, like when you update the LAR

4868
03:25:41,439 --> 03:25:43,760
system, we then maintain them and we

4869
03:25:43,760 --> 03:25:45,840
have a certain life cycle of in order to

4870
03:25:45,840 --> 03:25:47,840
be compliant with, you know, federal and

4871
03:25:47,840 --> 03:25:49,439
state laws, they need to be replaced

4872
03:25:49,439 --> 03:25:51,920
every so many years. And every single

4873
03:25:51,920 --> 03:25:53,920
component of a traffic signal has its

4874
03:25:53,920 --> 03:25:56,720
own life cycle. So transportation

4875
03:25:56,720 --> 03:25:59,680
replaces an entire intersection. Streets

4876
03:25:59,680 --> 03:26:01,359
just does maintenance and replaces like

4877
03:26:01,359 --> 03:26:03,600
the cabinet one year and then maybe the

4878
03:26:03,600 --> 03:26:05,760
ligh head the next. So you will see

4879
03:26:05,760 --> 03:26:08,000
later on a request for maintenance

4880
03:26:08,000 --> 03:26:09,920
funding. And that isn't replacing an

4881
03:26:09,920 --> 03:26:11,840
entire intersection. It's just the

4882
03:26:11,840 --> 03:26:13,920
components of the entire system in the

4883
03:26:13,920 --> 03:26:15,920
city to make sure that we're keeping

4884
03:26:15,920 --> 03:26:18,239
them in good running order. And then as

4885
03:26:18,239 --> 03:26:20,000
we upgrade a new signal, then that makes

4886
03:26:20,000 --> 03:26:21,600
the burden on them to maintain it easier

4887
03:26:21,600 --> 03:26:23,279
because they have newer equipment to to

4888
03:26:23,279 --> 03:26:24,800
work with rather than trying to piece

4889
03:26:24,800 --> 03:26:26,640
mill something that's kind of a

4890
03:26:26,640 --> 03:26:27,840
patchwork that's out there.

4891
03:26:27,840 --> 03:26:29,269
>> But then they're also more expensive.

4892
03:26:29,269 --> 03:26:29,279
» But then they're also more expensive.

4893
03:26:29,279 --> 03:26:32,150
>> They are for sure.

4894
03:26:32,150 --> 03:26:32,160
» They are for sure.

4895
03:26:32,160 --> 03:26:33,510
>> Great. Thank you.

4896
03:26:33,510 --> 03:26:33,520
» Great. Thank you.

4897
03:26:33,520 --> 03:26:34,150
>> Thank you.

4898
03:26:34,150 --> 03:26:34,160
» Thank you.

4899
03:26:34,160 --> 03:26:35,750
>> Thank you.

4900
03:26:35,750 --> 03:26:35,760
» Thank you.

4901
03:26:35,760 --> 03:26:37,990
>> Oh, by the way, we also have Wasn't the

4902
03:26:37,990 --> 03:26:38,000
» Oh, by the way, we also have Wasn't the

4903
03:26:38,000 --> 03:26:39,680
the light the street light the stop

4904
03:26:39,680 --> 03:26:41,680
light the first invented here in the

4905
03:26:41,680 --> 03:26:43,680
state of Utah? I believe that's true,

4906
03:26:43,680 --> 03:26:44,560
Chris.

4907
03:26:44,560 --> 03:26:47,269
>> Yeah, it is. And yeah, it's it's still

4908
03:26:47,269 --> 03:26:47,279
» Yeah, it is. And yeah, it's it's still

4909
03:26:47,279 --> 03:26:48,720
in operation. One of the ones that we

4910
03:26:48,720 --> 03:26:50,319
need to replace. No, it's not. I'm just

4911
03:26:50,319 --> 03:26:51,120
kidding. [laughter]

4912
03:26:51,120 --> 03:26:52,800
I'm just kidding.

4913
03:26:52,800 --> 03:26:54,550
>> But if anyone knows where it is,

4914
03:26:54,550 --> 03:26:54,560
» But if anyone knows where it is,

4915
03:26:54,560 --> 03:26:55,910
>> that's what I I was going to ask.

4916
03:26:55,910 --> 03:26:55,920
» that's what I I was going to ask.

4917
03:26:55,920 --> 03:26:57,349
>> We need it.

4918
03:26:57,349 --> 03:26:57,359
» We need it.

4919
03:26:57,359 --> 03:26:59,910
>> I I believe I mention I I mentioned this

4920
03:26:59,910 --> 03:26:59,920
» I I believe I mention I I mentioned this

4921
03:26:59,920 --> 03:27:01,840
in a in a meeting I had with with the

4922
03:27:01,840 --> 03:27:04,800
staff uh last week or the week before.

4923
03:27:04,800 --> 03:27:07,200
Um and

4924
03:27:07,200 --> 03:27:09,600
someone mentioned that it it may be one

4925
03:27:09,600 --> 03:27:11,760
of them may be saved someplace. I felt

4926
03:27:11,760 --> 03:27:14,239
like we should do a citywide hunt and

4927
03:27:14,239 --> 03:27:17,600
whatever cabinet uh we have to find this

4928
03:27:17,600 --> 03:27:19,600
original light because I think it's

4929
03:27:19,600 --> 03:27:23,120
worth to highlight the ingenuity of of S

4930
03:27:23,120 --> 03:27:26,239
Lakers. So, thank you for allowing me to

4931
03:27:26,239 --> 03:27:29,040
go into that route. Um, next.

4932
03:27:29,040 --> 03:27:32,070
>> Great. Next up is project number six.

4933
03:27:32,070 --> 03:27:32,080
» Great. Next up is project number six.

4934
03:27:32,080 --> 03:27:34,800
It's the street overlay. So, when

4935
03:27:34,800 --> 03:27:36,720
streets don't need to be completely

4936
03:27:36,720 --> 03:27:38,800
reconstructed, the streets division does

4937
03:27:38,800 --> 03:27:41,760
an overlay. and they have requested $3.3

4938
03:27:41,760 --> 03:27:44,720
million. Um, and there is a list of the

4939
03:27:44,720 --> 03:27:47,680
several streets that they plan to target

4940
03:27:47,680 --> 03:27:52,160
with this um, within within the log.

4941
03:27:52,160 --> 03:27:54,880
Questions, comments?

4942
03:27:54,880 --> 03:27:56,560
Okay,

4943
03:27:56,560 --> 03:28:01,680
next up, um, project number seven. Um,

4944
03:28:01,680 --> 03:28:04,880
this is for safe and open clean park

4945
03:28:04,880 --> 03:28:07,359
restroom program replacement. You'll

4946
03:28:07,359 --> 03:28:09,439
notice that we have one that a project

4947
03:28:09,439 --> 03:28:11,120
that's for replacement and another one

4948
03:28:11,120 --> 03:28:14,479
that's for like fixes. So, um this one's

4949
03:28:14,479 --> 03:28:16,160
a replacement though. Um this project

4950
03:28:16,160 --> 03:28:18,319
will replace one felling restroom and

4951
03:28:18,319 --> 03:28:20,640
then upgrade um one at the Riverside

4952
03:28:20,640 --> 03:28:23,200
Park. Um

4953
03:28:23,200 --> 03:28:26,960
it's for $1.1 million. So, everyone

4954
03:28:26,960 --> 03:28:29,279
recommended approval of that and we're

4955
03:28:29,279 --> 03:28:30,640
going to go ahead and keep going.

4956
03:28:30,640 --> 03:28:33,110
>> Also very expensive uh to replace a

4957
03:28:33,110 --> 03:28:33,120
» Also very expensive uh to replace a

4958
03:28:33,120 --> 03:28:36,319
bathroom. I don't know how many

4959
03:28:36,319 --> 03:28:38,239
I mean

4960
03:28:38,239 --> 03:28:41,760
how complicated it is, but it's shocking

4961
03:28:41,760 --> 03:28:43,600
to me that it cost a million over a

4962
03:28:43,600 --> 03:28:44,880
million dollars to do a bathroom.

4963
03:28:44,880 --> 03:28:45,680
Really?

4964
03:28:45,680 --> 03:28:47,750
>> Yeah. This actually we had this

4965
03:28:47,750 --> 03:28:47,760
» Yeah. This actually we had this

4966
03:28:47,760 --> 03:28:49,840
conversation last year also. And I think

4967
03:28:49,840 --> 03:28:51,600
I think the number for a new bathroom

4968
03:28:51,600 --> 03:28:54,000
last year was $750,000,

4969
03:28:54,000 --> 03:28:56,880
but we're we're getting replacement of

4970
03:28:56,880 --> 03:29:00,399
one and updates of another. So,

4971
03:29:00,399 --> 03:29:03,439
okay. Um, next up on the log we have

4972
03:29:03,439 --> 03:29:05,120
project number eight, the Jordan River

4973
03:29:05,120 --> 03:29:07,120
sewer and storm water infrastructure

4974
03:29:07,120 --> 03:29:10,319
improvements. Um,

4975
03:29:10,319 --> 03:29:13,040
the the system is not properly connected

4976
03:29:13,040 --> 03:29:14,720
to the city storm water and sewer

4977
03:29:14,720 --> 03:29:16,880
systems causing frequent backups into

4978
03:29:16,880 --> 03:29:19,040
the parking lot and northern portion of

4979
03:29:19,040 --> 03:29:21,520
the park. This has been requiring

4980
03:29:21,520 --> 03:29:25,040
emergency maintenance. um this which

4981
03:29:25,040 --> 03:29:28,080
this project would get rid of and make

4982
03:29:28,080 --> 03:29:30,800
it cleaner and healthier and safe safer

4983
03:29:30,800 --> 03:29:34,229
for all.

4984
03:29:34,239 --> 03:29:39,590
Great. Um project number nine.

4985
03:29:39,600 --> 03:29:42,960
Um this is our vision zero corridor

4986
03:29:42,960 --> 03:29:45,600
project. Um they requested $2.3 million

4987
03:29:45,600 --> 03:29:47,120
for this and they have been recommended

4988
03:29:47,120 --> 03:29:50,399
by both entities for this. Um there are

4989
03:29:50,399 --> 03:29:52,239
three priority corridors including

4990
03:29:52,239 --> 03:29:55,920
Redwood Road, 900 West, and 800 South.

4991
03:29:55,920 --> 03:29:58,640
Um if if approved at this level, it is

4992
03:29:58,640 --> 03:30:01,600
proposed that $1.2 million go to the

4993
03:30:01,600 --> 03:30:05,200
Vision Zero corridors that I just listed

4994
03:30:05,200 --> 03:30:08,000
and an additional $1.1 million go to

4995
03:30:08,000 --> 03:30:10,239
safety improvements citywide, including

4996
03:30:10,239 --> 03:30:15,030
selected crosswalks near schools.

4997
03:30:15,040 --> 03:30:18,469
» Yes. Go ahead.

4998
03:30:18,479 --> 03:30:19,600
Yep.

4999
03:30:19,600 --> 03:30:24,710
>> Um I wanted to uh flag um a constituent

5000
03:30:24,710 --> 03:30:24,720
» Um I wanted to uh flag um a constituent

5001
03:30:24,720 --> 03:30:27,200
um item that's later on in the in our

5002
03:30:27,200 --> 03:30:30,800
packet. It's number 37. Um in that

5003
03:30:30,800 --> 03:30:32,880
constituent request, there's a request

5004
03:30:32,880 --> 03:30:36,800
for a a crosswalk at me a and west

5005
03:30:36,800 --> 03:30:39,760
temple. And so if you can't picture that

5006
03:30:39,760 --> 03:30:42,000
in your head, that is right where the

5007
03:30:42,000 --> 03:30:44,720
off-ramp is from the freeway. So, this

5008
03:30:44,720 --> 03:30:47,600
council has made some um really and

5009
03:30:47,600 --> 03:30:49,760
other uh including the county have made

5010
03:30:49,760 --> 03:30:51,439
some really important improvements to

5011
03:30:51,439 --> 03:30:54,399
that me a underpass area and it's now

5012
03:30:54,399 --> 03:30:56,720
become a destination where children are

5013
03:30:56,720 --> 03:30:59,040
coming to play where neighbors are

5014
03:30:59,040 --> 03:31:02,399
gathering and I'm concerned along with

5015
03:31:02,399 --> 03:31:04,319
this constituent with vehicles traveling

5016
03:31:04,319 --> 03:31:06,399
at such a high velocity and slowing down

5017
03:31:06,399 --> 03:31:09,200
there it's a real safety concern and so

5018
03:31:09,200 --> 03:31:12,399
um while I love what the constituent put

5019
03:31:12,399 --> 03:31:13,920
forward in their request

5020
03:31:13,920 --> 03:31:16,720
Um, knowing that this year is tight, I

5021
03:31:16,720 --> 03:31:18,800
would love if we can find perhaps

5022
03:31:18,800 --> 03:31:21,600
$40,000 to allocate towards a crosswalk

5023
03:31:21,600 --> 03:31:23,840
and flashing beacon right at that

5024
03:31:23,840 --> 03:31:26,479
intersection of me u me a and west

5025
03:31:26,479 --> 03:31:32,070
temple.

5026
03:31:32,080 --> 03:31:34,399
» Okay,

5027
03:31:34,399 --> 03:31:37,439
thank you.

5028
03:31:37,439 --> 03:31:38,469
>> I appreciate [clears throat] this on the

5029
03:31:38,469 --> 03:31:38,479
» I appreciate [clears throat] this on the

5030
03:31:38,479 --> 03:31:42,239
vision zero. I was um thinking about the

5031
03:31:42,239 --> 03:31:44,880
red light cameras and the idea that you

5032
03:31:44,880 --> 03:31:46,560
know we're not allowed to have red light

5033
03:31:46,560 --> 03:31:50,800
cameras because uh but could we have a

5034
03:31:50,800 --> 03:31:53,439
red light cameras that just counted the

5035
03:31:53,439 --> 03:31:56,319
number of violations that we have of

5036
03:31:56,319 --> 03:31:58,880
people running the red lights? nothing

5037
03:31:58,880 --> 03:32:00,880
more than just

5038
03:32:00,880 --> 03:32:04,160
uh a program to count the number of red

5039
03:32:04,160 --> 03:32:07,680
lights violations we had and in lights

5040
03:32:07,680 --> 03:32:12,960
we have in the city uh to maybe um give

5041
03:32:12,960 --> 03:32:14,479
a highlight that to the state

5042
03:32:14,479 --> 03:32:16,000
legislators

5043
03:32:16,000 --> 03:32:17,680
and I'm not sure if that would go under

5044
03:32:17,680 --> 03:32:20,640
this thing or how if if you could tie

5045
03:32:20,640 --> 03:32:23,200
somehow tie that into the vision zero

5046
03:32:23,200 --> 03:32:25,680
aspect. I'm just throwing out the idea

5047
03:32:25,680 --> 03:32:28,239
on the funding. Uh it came to just as I

5048
03:32:28,239 --> 03:32:30,479
was looking through this this weekend.

5049
03:32:30,479 --> 03:32:32,950
>> I I love that idea. Um we actually have

5050
03:32:32,950 --> 03:32:32,960
» I I love that idea. Um we actually have

5051
03:32:32,960 --> 03:32:35,120
the ability to get that data already

5052
03:32:35,120 --> 03:32:36,960
from many of our traffic signals. So the

5053
03:32:36,960 --> 03:32:38,479
ones that actually are upgraded and have

5054
03:32:38,479 --> 03:32:39,840
good detection

5055
03:32:39,840 --> 03:32:41,429
>> record

5056
03:32:41,429 --> 03:32:41,439
» record

5057
03:32:41,439 --> 03:32:43,200
frequency of red light running. So we

5058
03:32:43,200 --> 03:32:44,960
could we could pull that information and

5059
03:32:44,960 --> 03:32:47,520
create a report based on what we have.

5060
03:32:47,520 --> 03:32:48,960
Now we won't be able to do it at every

5061
03:32:48,960 --> 03:32:50,239
location in the city because a lot of

5062
03:32:50,239 --> 03:32:51,760
our signals are old and don't have the

5063
03:32:51,760 --> 03:32:52,479
right detection. But

5064
03:32:52,479 --> 03:32:54,150
>> but if you can already do that then I

5065
03:32:54,150 --> 03:32:54,160
» but if you can already do that then I

5066
03:32:54,160 --> 03:32:55,920
would love to have that. So thank you

5067
03:32:55,920 --> 03:32:58,720
very much on the CIP data.

5068
03:32:58,720 --> 03:32:59,030
>> Yeah.

5069
03:32:59,030 --> 03:32:59,040
» Yeah.

5070
03:32:59,040 --> 03:32:59,349
>> Yeah.

5071
03:32:59,349 --> 03:32:59,359
» Yeah.

5072
03:32:59,359 --> 03:33:01,590
>> That would be very useful for for years.

5073
03:33:01,590 --> 03:33:01,600
» That would be very useful for for years.

5074
03:33:01,600 --> 03:33:03,760
When I joined the council, I came hot on

5075
03:33:03,760 --> 03:33:06,239
this issue. I fail on my face multiple

5076
03:33:06,239 --> 03:33:07,040
times.

5077
03:33:07,040 --> 03:33:10,550
>> I'm Yep. We both would be very useful. I

5078
03:33:10,550 --> 03:33:10,560
» I'm Yep. We both would be very useful. I

5079
03:33:10,560 --> 03:33:12,479
was I really would love to see those

5080
03:33:12,479 --> 03:33:13,040
camera.

5081
03:33:13,040 --> 03:33:15,030
>> I agree 100%. Red light running is a

5082
03:33:15,030 --> 03:33:15,040
» I agree 100%. Red light running is a

5083
03:33:15,040 --> 03:33:18,399
huge um issue for this issue. Yeah, you

5084
03:33:18,399 --> 03:33:20,812
bet.

5085
03:33:20,812 --> 03:33:22,239
[snorts]

5086
03:33:22,239 --> 03:33:22,479
We're

5087
03:33:22,479 --> 03:33:27,670
>> good. Yeah. more thoughts.

5088
03:33:27,680 --> 03:33:28,960
» Let's go through all of them and then

5089
03:33:28,960 --> 03:33:31,680
I'd love to circle back and see shaking

5090
03:33:31,680 --> 03:33:33,200
the couch cushions if we can come up

5091
03:33:33,200 --> 03:33:36,080
with at least 40,000 for this crosswalk.

5092
03:33:36,080 --> 03:33:37,030
>> We got that.

5093
03:33:37,030 --> 03:33:37,040
» We got that.

5094
03:33:37,040 --> 03:33:37,590
>> Thank you.

5095
03:33:37,590 --> 03:33:37,600
» Thank you.

5096
03:33:37,600 --> 03:33:38,389
>> It's next.

5097
03:33:38,389 --> 03:33:38,399
» It's next.

5098
03:33:38,399 --> 03:33:42,150
>> Great. Next up is project number 10,

5099
03:33:42,150 --> 03:33:42,160
» Great. Next up is project number 10,

5100
03:33:42,160 --> 03:33:44,720
urban trails. Um there are two plans

5101
03:33:44,720 --> 03:33:47,279
that direct different urban trails

5102
03:33:47,279 --> 03:33:49,200
throughout the city. This year's funding

5103
03:33:49,200 --> 03:33:51,040
request will allow the design of the

5104
03:33:51,040 --> 03:33:53,120
Redbute Creek Trail Airport trail

5105
03:33:53,120 --> 03:33:55,600
rehabilitation and the construction of

5106
03:33:55,600 --> 03:33:57,680
active transportation gaps, which is

5107
03:33:57,680 --> 03:34:00,640
sidewalks or bikeway gaps. The request

5108
03:34:00,640 --> 03:34:02,800
was for $450,000

5109
03:34:02,800 --> 03:34:07,670
and all recommended approval.

5110
03:34:07,680 --> 03:34:11,200
Great. Um, next project, project number

5111
03:34:11,200 --> 03:34:14,880
11. This one the CDCIP board recommended

5112
03:34:14,880 --> 03:34:16,960
funding but the mayor did not. This is

5113
03:34:16,960 --> 03:34:20,399
the only project where the CD CIP board

5114
03:34:20,399 --> 03:34:21,840
recommended funding and the mayor did

5115
03:34:21,840 --> 03:34:23,439
not. Just so you're aware, it's a

5116
03:34:23,439 --> 03:34:24,960
lighting replacement to improve safety

5117
03:34:24,960 --> 03:34:31,990
and access um within parks.

5118
03:34:32,000 --> 03:34:34,399
Do we have more context as to why this

5119
03:34:34,399 --> 03:34:36,399
wasn't include? I mean, this is a year

5120
03:34:36,399 --> 03:34:39,040
of hard decisions, but it any additional

5121
03:34:39,040 --> 03:34:41,359
context into why it was in wasn't

5122
03:34:41,359 --> 03:34:43,680
included in the mayor's uh recommended

5123
03:34:43,680 --> 03:34:45,600
funding.

5124
03:34:45,600 --> 03:34:47,840
I'm going to guess that it wasn't

5125
03:34:47,840 --> 03:34:49,920
included because there were so many

5126
03:34:49,920 --> 03:34:52,479
other there's so many projects for 20

5127
03:34:52,479 --> 03:34:56,000
million below. But

5128
03:34:56,000 --> 03:34:59,750
>> we can follow up with that. Yeah.

5129
03:34:59,750 --> 03:34:59,760
» we can follow up with that. Yeah.

5130
03:34:59,760 --> 03:35:03,040
Great. Okay. Uh project number 12 um

5131
03:35:03,040 --> 03:35:05,760
facilities replacement and renewal. Um

5132
03:35:05,760 --> 03:35:08,319
this was a request for $2.9 million.

5133
03:35:08,319 --> 03:35:10,080
They've been recommended to be funded at

5134
03:35:10,080 --> 03:35:14,800
$2.7 million. This includes such items

5135
03:35:14,800 --> 03:35:17,600
um for the facilities including this

5136
03:35:17,600 --> 03:35:19,680
building of light safety and code

5137
03:35:19,680 --> 03:35:23,200
compliance, structural integrity and um

5138
03:35:23,200 --> 03:35:25,279
core infrastructure systems and

5139
03:35:25,279 --> 03:35:30,550
operational building systems.

5140
03:35:30,560 --> 03:35:35,680
Okay. Um next item, project number 13,

5141
03:35:35,680 --> 03:35:38,880
traffic signal capital maintenance. So,

5142
03:35:38,880 --> 03:35:41,680
as Julie mentioned a little bit ago,

5143
03:35:41,680 --> 03:35:43,600
this is that maintenance to keep those

5144
03:35:43,600 --> 03:35:46,640
those street signals running smoothly.

5145
03:35:46,640 --> 03:35:49,040
They asked for 750,000. They've been

5146
03:35:49,040 --> 03:35:53,279
recommended for 5 mill 500,000.

5147
03:35:53,279 --> 03:35:55,200
If it was 5 million, I think everyone

5148
03:35:55,200 --> 03:35:57,439
would be happy. Yeah.

5149
03:35:57,439 --> 03:36:00,389
>> Circling back on number 11 on the light

5150
03:36:00,389 --> 03:36:00,399
» Circling back on number 11 on the light

5151
03:36:00,399 --> 03:36:04,560
replacement uh for safety. Um, can we

5152
03:36:04,560 --> 03:36:08,720
get more more details of maybe it's on

5153
03:36:08,720 --> 03:36:11,040
me to search on specific what you know

5154
03:36:11,040 --> 03:36:13,680
what areas, what parks, you know, uh,

5155
03:36:13,680 --> 03:36:16,080
more information about,

5156
03:36:16,080 --> 03:36:19,120
you know, to me, you know, improve

5157
03:36:19,120 --> 03:36:21,359
improvements in the parks that improve

5158
03:36:21,359 --> 03:36:23,680
safety, you know, it's pretty high in

5159
03:36:23,680 --> 03:36:27,680
that in in the hierarchy of needs. Um,

5160
03:36:27,680 --> 03:36:29,279
so even if we can throw a little money

5161
03:36:29,279 --> 03:36:31,040
at it, if we can find something, spread

5162
03:36:31,040 --> 03:36:32,319
the peanut butter a little bit might be

5163
03:36:32,319 --> 03:36:34,960
useful.

5164
03:36:34,960 --> 03:36:37,349
>> Yeah, this is Cat Ander from Public

5165
03:36:37,349 --> 03:36:37,359
» Yeah, this is Cat Ander from Public

5166
03:36:37,359 --> 03:36:40,319
Lands. Um, our prioritized location for

5167
03:36:40,319 --> 03:36:43,040
locations for lighting replacement are

5168
03:36:43,040 --> 03:36:45,279
City Creek Park, Memory Grove, and the

5169
03:36:45,279 --> 03:36:48,080
City Creek Road going up to City Creek.

5170
03:36:48,080 --> 03:36:50,319
Um, we're prioritizing those because

5171
03:36:50,319 --> 03:36:52,720
they are the oldest assets and in the

5172
03:36:52,720 --> 03:36:54,720
worst condition and need to be repaired

5173
03:36:54,720 --> 03:36:57,120
most frequently and require the largest

5174
03:36:57,120 --> 03:36:59,200
maintenance obligation. And so those

5175
03:36:59,200 --> 03:37:02,160
were our pro proposed locations at this

5176
03:37:02,160 --> 03:37:04,080
time, but we have flexibility if there

5177
03:37:04,080 --> 03:37:06,000
are other preferences. Um, also being in

5178
03:37:06,000 --> 03:37:08,000
central city, we wanted to prioritize

5179
03:37:08,000 --> 03:37:09,680
lighting from a safety perspective in

5180
03:37:09,680 --> 03:37:10,720
those locations.

5181
03:37:10,720 --> 03:37:12,309
>> That that makes a lot of sense. And

5182
03:37:12,309 --> 03:37:12,319
» That that makes a lot of sense. And

5183
03:37:12,319 --> 03:37:13,279
unfortunately [clears throat] Chris is

5184
03:37:13,279 --> 03:37:14,640
not here right now. He would have loved

5185
03:37:14,640 --> 03:37:16,160
to hear those parks. I'm glad that he's

5186
03:37:16,160 --> 03:37:18,720
not here actually. Um so thank you for

5187
03:37:18,720 --> 03:37:19,439
that.

5188
03:37:19,439 --> 03:37:22,070
>> Thank you.

5189
03:37:22,070 --> 03:37:22,080
» Thank you.

5190
03:37:22,080 --> 03:37:22,710
>> Next.

5191
03:37:22,710 --> 03:37:22,720
» Next.

5192
03:37:22,720 --> 03:37:25,990
>> Great. Um the next three applications

5193
03:37:25,990 --> 03:37:26,000
» Great. Um the next three applications

5194
03:37:26,000 --> 03:37:28,720
were not recommended for funding. Um

5195
03:37:28,720 --> 03:37:31,279
project number 14, which is the transit

5196
03:37:31,279 --> 03:37:35,520
capital program. I think these three um

5197
03:37:35,520 --> 03:37:37,439
fall under that category of they'd be

5198
03:37:37,439 --> 03:37:39,840
really great, but we there's not enough

5199
03:37:39,840 --> 03:37:42,239
peanut butter to spread around. So,

5200
03:37:42,239 --> 03:37:44,880
capital the transit capital program for

5201
03:37:44,880 --> 03:37:46,880
2027

5202
03:37:46,880 --> 03:37:51,279
um the plaza 349 balconies and the

5203
03:37:51,279 --> 03:37:53,600
demolition of the KFax and Odyssey

5204
03:37:53,600 --> 03:37:56,160
house. Um

5205
03:37:56,160 --> 03:37:59,990
just going to keep

5206
03:38:00,000 --> 03:38:03,120
so I think my question on number 14 was

5207
03:38:03,120 --> 03:38:05,520
just related to

5208
03:38:05,520 --> 03:38:09,120
um that it leverages the outside funds

5209
03:38:09,120 --> 03:38:12,080
from UTA. I'm just trying to get a sense

5210
03:38:12,080 --> 03:38:16,319
of like how how large are those funds

5211
03:38:16,319 --> 03:38:18,160
because like if it's a oneto one match

5212
03:38:18,160 --> 03:38:21,760
or if it's like we'll give you $5,000

5213
03:38:21,760 --> 03:38:23,920
like that makes a difference.

5214
03:38:23,920 --> 03:38:27,190
>> Yeah, I'll look into that and

5215
03:38:27,190 --> 03:38:27,200
» Yeah, I'll look into that and

5216
03:38:27,200 --> 03:38:28,229
>> number 14.

5217
03:38:28,229 --> 03:38:28,239
» number 14.

5218
03:38:28,239 --> 03:38:31,110
>> Yeah.

5219
03:38:31,110 --> 03:38:31,120
» Yeah.

5220
03:38:31,120 --> 03:38:31,670
>> Thank you.

5221
03:38:31,670 --> 03:38:31,680
» Thank you.

5222
03:38:31,680 --> 03:38:34,550
>> Great. Um let's go ahead and move on to

5223
03:38:34,550 --> 03:38:34,560
» Great. Um let's go ahead and move on to

5224
03:38:34,560 --> 03:38:38,160
number 17. A quick question. Um sorry.

5225
03:38:38,160 --> 03:38:40,399
Where where um where are the locations

5226
03:38:40,399 --> 03:38:42,640
of Kfax and the Odyssey House? What's

5227
03:38:42,640 --> 03:38:43,600
the address?

5228
03:38:43,600 --> 03:38:47,190
>> Oh, you know, I looked that up

5229
03:38:47,190 --> 03:38:47,200
» Oh, you know, I looked that up

5230
03:38:47,200 --> 03:38:49,680
and I will get Oh,

5231
03:38:49,680 --> 03:38:52,960
JP's coming up.

5232
03:38:52,960 --> 03:38:55,830
>> Yeah, it's just south of 600 South off

5233
03:38:55,830 --> 03:38:55,840
» Yeah, it's just south of 600 South off

5234
03:38:55,840 --> 03:39:00,080
Second East. So, where our facilities

5235
03:39:00,080 --> 03:39:02,000
and youth and families located just

5236
03:39:02,000 --> 03:39:04,479
behind that to the south. I'm not sure

5237
03:39:04,479 --> 03:39:05,600
exact.

5238
03:39:05,600 --> 03:39:07,269
>> Okay. And those are currently vacant

5239
03:39:07,269 --> 03:39:07,279
» Okay. And those are currently vacant

5240
03:39:07,279 --> 03:39:10,319
structures um that pose a safety risk

5241
03:39:10,319 --> 03:39:13,200
and I imagine folks getting involved in

5242
03:39:13,200 --> 03:39:14,720
nefarious activities.

5243
03:39:14,720 --> 03:39:16,710
>> We we struggle with vacant structures.

5244
03:39:16,710 --> 03:39:16,720
» We we struggle with vacant structures.

5245
03:39:16,720 --> 03:39:17,520
Yes.

5246
03:39:17,520 --> 03:39:19,670
>> Okay. Thank you. I just wanted to

5247
03:39:19,670 --> 03:39:19,680
» Okay. Thank you. I just wanted to

5248
03:39:19,680 --> 03:39:21,760
visually see where they were. Thank you.

5249
03:39:21,760 --> 03:39:24,710
>> Are they are they city- owned

5250
03:39:24,710 --> 03:39:24,720
» Are they are they city- owned

5251
03:39:24,720 --> 03:39:27,439
or are we doing

5252
03:39:27,439 --> 03:39:29,349
>> both are city owned? Yeah, the city owns

5253
03:39:29,349 --> 03:39:29,359
» both are city owned? Yeah, the city owns

5254
03:39:29,359 --> 03:39:30,800
all all of those properties.

5255
03:39:30,800 --> 03:39:31,269
>> Thank you.

5256
03:39:31,269 --> 03:39:31,279
» Thank you.

5257
03:39:31,279 --> 03:39:31,670
>> Yeah.

5258
03:39:31,670 --> 03:39:31,680
» Yeah.

5259
03:39:31,680 --> 03:39:33,990
>> Do we have a sense of what Sorry. um the

5260
03:39:33,990 --> 03:39:34,000
» Do we have a sense of what Sorry. um the

5261
03:39:34,000 --> 03:39:36,399
cost. I know it's very expensive to

5262
03:39:36,399 --> 03:39:37,920
maintain

5263
03:39:37,920 --> 03:39:39,920
um the security of these vacant

5264
03:39:39,920 --> 03:39:41,520
buildings. Do we have a sense of what

5265
03:39:41,520 --> 03:39:44,080
we're spending currently on on those

5266
03:39:44,080 --> 03:39:46,960
buildings to keep them secure?

5267
03:39:46,960 --> 03:39:48,790
>> I think the proximity of those two

5268
03:39:48,790 --> 03:39:48,800
» I think the proximity of those two

5269
03:39:48,800 --> 03:39:50,560
buildings being right behind our

5270
03:39:50,560 --> 03:39:52,319
facilities

5271
03:39:52,319 --> 03:39:55,279
uh building where all of our people are,

5272
03:39:55,279 --> 03:39:57,600
it's not as bad. We have a we have a

5273
03:39:57,600 --> 03:40:00,560
security system, so those stay pretty um

5274
03:40:00,560 --> 03:40:03,359
clear. But I mean the other ones I would

5275
03:40:03,359 --> 03:40:05,040
have to get back to you on how much

5276
03:40:05,040 --> 03:40:11,510
those cost. Yeah.

5277
03:40:11,520 --> 03:40:13,200
» Great.

5278
03:40:13,200 --> 03:40:16,080
Any other questions on those two? Okay.

5279
03:40:16,080 --> 03:40:17,600
And just so you know, I'm making a list

5280
03:40:17,600 --> 03:40:19,359
of follow-up questions. And if you have

5281
03:40:19,359 --> 03:40:22,000
any that you come up with in by the end

5282
03:40:22,000 --> 03:40:24,160
of the month would be very helpful to

5283
03:40:24,160 --> 03:40:26,000
get your questions by the end of the

5284
03:40:26,000 --> 03:40:27,760
month so that we can get responses from

5285
03:40:27,760 --> 03:40:29,680
the administration before we meet for

5286
03:40:29,680 --> 03:40:32,640
our next briefing. Okay. Project number

5287
03:40:32,640 --> 03:40:37,279
17. Um, this project the CDCIP board did

5288
03:40:37,279 --> 03:40:39,200
not recommend funding, but the mayor

5289
03:40:39,200 --> 03:40:42,399
did. It's streets legal compliance with

5290
03:40:42,399 --> 03:40:46,000
2010 ADA standards for accessibility.

5291
03:40:46,000 --> 03:40:50,319
This has um a lot to do with sidewalks.

5292
03:40:50,319 --> 03:40:54,389
It's recommended for $750,000.

5293
03:40:54,399 --> 03:40:58,960
Just uh wondering where just 500

5294
03:40:58,960 --> 03:41:02,479
locations around the city or

5295
03:41:02,479 --> 03:41:04,640
are they a million dollars too like

5296
03:41:04,640 --> 03:41:07,760
everything else like the toilets and

5297
03:41:07,760 --> 03:41:10,640
everything? Yeah. Um, Julie Krookxton, I

5298
03:41:10,640 --> 03:41:11,840
don't think I introduced myself last

5299
03:41:11,840 --> 03:41:15,439
time. Public services. The locations are

5300
03:41:15,439 --> 03:41:17,920
prioritized once we receive funding, but

5301
03:41:17,920 --> 03:41:21,520
it'll be anywhere where ADA access can

5302
03:41:21,520 --> 03:41:23,120
be limited. So, that could be ramps, but

5303
03:41:23,120 --> 03:41:26,239
that could also be like if there's um

5304
03:41:26,239 --> 03:41:28,000
some panels that are like totally

5305
03:41:28,000 --> 03:41:30,239
nontraversible. So, like no one can walk

5306
03:41:30,239 --> 03:41:31,840
on that sidewalk or, you know, take a

5307
03:41:31,840 --> 03:41:33,840
stroller or wheelchair down it. Um, so

5308
03:41:33,840 --> 03:41:35,520
we try to spread that as equitably

5309
03:41:35,520 --> 03:41:36,880
throughout the city as possible and

5310
03:41:36,880 --> 03:41:38,399
start with like the oldest and most

5311
03:41:38,399 --> 03:41:42,479
severe first so we can provide a long

5312
03:41:42,479 --> 03:41:43,279
list.

5313
03:41:43,279 --> 03:41:43,670
>> Sorry,

5314
03:41:43,670 --> 03:41:43,680
» Sorry,

5315
03:41:43,680 --> 03:41:44,630
>> how long is your list?

5316
03:41:44,630 --> 03:41:44,640
» how long is your list?

5317
03:41:44,640 --> 03:41:48,229
>> Um, long. It's quite long. Yeah, the the

5318
03:41:48,229 --> 03:41:48,239
» Um, long. It's quite long. Yeah, the the

5319
03:41:48,239 --> 03:41:51,840
the windstorm in 2020 did a lot more

5320
03:41:51,840 --> 03:41:54,319
damage to our sidewalk system and so

5321
03:41:54,319 --> 03:41:58,000
we've been catching up ever since. um 2

5322
03:41:58,000 --> 03:41:59,680
years ago I think there was extra

5323
03:41:59,680 --> 03:42:01,040
funding allocated for sidewalk

5324
03:42:01,040 --> 03:42:02,319
maintenance which was very beneficial

5325
03:42:02,319 --> 03:42:05,279
and has helped us a lot um but it's just

5326
03:42:05,279 --> 03:42:07,760
a very large system and a lot of it is

5327
03:42:07,760 --> 03:42:10,960
older and so there's always a big need

5328
03:42:10,960 --> 03:42:13,760
but we can get a more detailed list if

5329
03:42:13,760 --> 03:42:15,760
desired

5330
03:42:15,760 --> 03:42:18,000
more young and then Dan

5331
03:42:18,000 --> 03:42:21,269
>> yeah I'll just share um that they we

5332
03:42:21,269 --> 03:42:21,279
» yeah I'll just share um that they we

5333
03:42:21,279 --> 03:42:24,560
received a report as council probably

5334
03:42:24,560 --> 03:42:26,960
like less than like a year, maybe two

5335
03:42:26,960 --> 03:42:29,840
years ago, related to all of the ADA

5336
03:42:29,840 --> 03:42:32,160
compliance needs, this being one of

5337
03:42:32,160 --> 03:42:36,080
them. Um, and I just remember like it

5338
03:42:36,080 --> 03:42:39,040
wasn't like millions of dollars, it was

5339
03:42:39,040 --> 03:42:41,279
like tens of millions of dollars that

5340
03:42:41,279 --> 03:42:44,399
were necessary for us to get compliant.

5341
03:42:44,399 --> 03:42:48,160
Um, so I do know that I've seen the city

5342
03:42:48,160 --> 03:42:50,479
take action steps to incorporate those

5343
03:42:50,479 --> 03:42:52,880
aspects into the new projects like as

5344
03:42:52,880 --> 03:42:55,439
they come online and come forward. Um,

5345
03:42:55,439 --> 03:42:57,600
but I'm pretty sure this will be a drop

5346
03:42:57,600 --> 03:43:00,000
in the bucket compared to what the

5347
03:43:00,000 --> 03:43:03,200
comprehensive need is. So, thank you.

5348
03:43:03,200 --> 03:43:06,550
>> And I can't remember was there a federal

5349
03:43:06,550 --> 03:43:06,560
» And I can't remember was there a federal

5350
03:43:06,560 --> 03:43:11,200
date or a penalty if we didn't have

5351
03:43:11,200 --> 03:43:13,840
somebody done by a certain date on any

5352
03:43:13,840 --> 03:43:16,399
other transportation funding.

5353
03:43:16,399 --> 03:43:19,189
>> As far as I'm aware, the timeline was

5354
03:43:19,189 --> 03:43:19,199
» As far as I'm aware, the timeline was

5355
03:43:19,199 --> 03:43:21,600
like having a plan in place. It wasn't

5356
03:43:21,600 --> 03:43:23,279
necessarily like the execution of

5357
03:43:23,279 --> 03:43:24,880
certain things, but we can triple

5358
03:43:24,880 --> 03:43:26,960
confirm that to make sure, but it was

5359
03:43:26,960 --> 03:43:28,640
more like do you, you know, have a plan

5360
03:43:28,640 --> 03:43:30,319
of like, hey, this is when we'll do

5361
03:43:30,319 --> 03:43:32,319
these things over the next 10 years as

5362
03:43:32,319 --> 03:43:35,040
funding allows, stuff like that.

5363
03:43:35,040 --> 03:43:37,199
Quick question um regarding regarding

5364
03:43:37,199 --> 03:43:41,520
this. I was reading this article um

5365
03:43:41,520 --> 03:43:43,680
about the cost of infrastructure for

5366
03:43:43,680 --> 03:43:48,080
cities and how different cities get

5367
03:43:48,080 --> 03:43:51,600
get more for their buck on you know

5368
03:43:51,600 --> 03:43:53,439
actually they were talking about ADA

5369
03:43:53,439 --> 03:43:56,640
ramps on corners and they were comparing

5370
03:43:56,640 --> 03:44:00,479
one city versus another one. Um and you

5371
03:44:00,479 --> 03:44:03,840
know one getting a lot more for little

5372
03:44:03,840 --> 03:44:05,760
money and the other one getting very

5373
03:44:05,760 --> 03:44:08,399
cost inflated uh not because of them but

5374
03:44:08,399 --> 03:44:11,840
because of the bids and whatnot. Um and

5375
03:44:11,840 --> 03:44:14,319
I saw that the city in some cases is

5376
03:44:14,319 --> 03:44:16,800
doing one ramp that serves both

5377
03:44:16,800 --> 03:44:20,080
directions. Uh I wonder if if we the

5378
03:44:20,080 --> 03:44:23,760
city has a standard practice to reduce

5379
03:44:23,760 --> 03:44:27,279
the amount of cost uh and at the same

5380
03:44:27,279 --> 03:44:30,479
time getting further uh into this long

5381
03:44:30,479 --> 03:44:32,960
list of improvements needed.

5382
03:44:32,960 --> 03:44:35,910
>> We I know we have like you know we try

5383
03:44:35,910 --> 03:44:35,920
» We I know we have like you know we try

5384
03:44:35,920 --> 03:44:38,960
to address the legal need of ADA but we

5385
03:44:38,960 --> 03:44:40,399
could definitely look at like can we

5386
03:44:40,399 --> 03:44:42,720
standardize saying does one direction

5387
03:44:42,720 --> 03:44:44,720
legally meet in more locations than not

5388
03:44:44,720 --> 03:44:47,199
so we could lessen the cost in that way.

5389
03:44:47,199 --> 03:44:48,800
We can definitely explore that.

5390
03:44:48,800 --> 03:44:51,670
>> Yeah, I I will definitely love to see,

5391
03:44:51,670 --> 03:44:51,680
» Yeah, I I will definitely love to see,

5392
03:44:51,680 --> 03:44:54,560
you know, any any way that we can

5393
03:44:54,560 --> 03:44:57,760
stretch our dollars uh and if if in some

5394
03:44:57,760 --> 03:45:00,239
intersections it work to have one ramp

5395
03:45:00,239 --> 03:45:04,399
versus two uh that serves both uh both

5396
03:45:04,399 --> 03:45:07,439
directions. Um I I would love to see if

5397
03:45:07,439 --> 03:45:08,479
we can get

5398
03:45:08,479 --> 03:45:08,950
>> Yeah,

5399
03:45:08,950 --> 03:45:08,960
» Yeah,

5400
03:45:08,960 --> 03:45:09,670
>> if we can get that.

5401
03:45:09,670 --> 03:45:09,680
» if we can get that.

5402
03:45:09,680 --> 03:45:11,429
>> Yeah, we can explore that. And one

5403
03:45:11,429 --> 03:45:11,439
» Yeah, we can explore that. And one

5404
03:45:11,439 --> 03:45:13,359
measure that we do have standardized is

5405
03:45:13,359 --> 03:45:15,120
that when we hire a contractor to do

5406
03:45:15,120 --> 03:45:17,359
this work, we try to not pick like 12

5407
03:45:17,359 --> 03:45:19,279
different city locations across the city

5408
03:45:19,279 --> 03:45:21,120
and have them driving back and forth. We

5409
03:45:21,120 --> 03:45:22,239
try to say, "Okay, there's like an

5410
03:45:22,239 --> 03:45:23,680
economy of scale of saying you're in

5411
03:45:23,680 --> 03:45:25,359
this area, you're already mobilized.

5412
03:45:25,359 --> 03:45:26,800
Let's try to focus on like all the

5413
03:45:26,800 --> 03:45:29,520
issues in those few specific blocks and

5414
03:45:29,520 --> 03:45:31,199
then move you to another block and do

5415
03:45:31,199 --> 03:45:33,040
all those areas as well." So that is one

5416
03:45:33,040 --> 03:45:34,960
cost-saving measure we've implemented.

5417
03:45:34,960 --> 03:45:36,560
Um, but I think we can definitely

5418
03:45:36,560 --> 03:45:38,399
explore the ones you've mentioned.

5419
03:45:38,399 --> 03:45:40,950
>> Thank you.

5420
03:45:40,950 --> 03:45:40,960
» Thank you.

5421
03:45:40,960 --> 03:45:41,760
Next.

5422
03:45:41,760 --> 03:45:44,950
>> Great. And the next two applications

5423
03:45:44,950 --> 03:45:44,960
» Great. And the next two applications

5424
03:45:44,960 --> 03:45:47,279
were not recommended for funding. They

5425
03:45:47,279 --> 03:45:50,800
were department applications. So, um,

5426
03:45:50,800 --> 03:45:52,880
project 18, irrigation upgrades and

5427
03:45:52,880 --> 03:45:54,479
supportive water wise landscaping

5428
03:45:54,479 --> 03:45:57,680
program, not recommended. And the

5429
03:45:57,680 --> 03:46:00,960
project 19 bikeway gaps in 2027, also

5430
03:46:00,960 --> 03:46:02,479
not recommended.

5431
03:46:02,479 --> 03:46:04,710
>> I would cons

5432
03:46:04,710 --> 03:46:04,720
» I would cons

5433
03:46:04,720 --> 03:46:07,199
uh just on the water side of the house,

5434
03:46:07,199 --> 03:46:08,800
a couple questions. what how much

5435
03:46:08,800 --> 03:46:10,560
savings of water would we get from that

5436
03:46:10,560 --> 03:46:13,120
program? And then the second is just can

5437
03:46:13,120 --> 03:46:14,319
we get you know the state's talking

5438
03:46:14,319 --> 03:46:17,439
about water conservation? Is there any

5439
03:46:17,439 --> 03:46:19,359
state funding for water conservation

5440
03:46:19,359 --> 03:46:22,160
efforts on you know we have the smart

5441
03:46:22,160 --> 03:46:24,800
metering we have this you know rip your

5442
03:46:24,800 --> 03:46:26,319
strip you know we're going to give you

5443
03:46:26,319 --> 03:46:28,640
three bucks a square foot for your yard.

5444
03:46:28,640 --> 03:46:31,279
How about giving us 1.2 million for some

5445
03:46:31,279 --> 03:46:34,080
water uh landscaping program. I mean

5446
03:46:34,080 --> 03:46:36,880
just 1.2 that's nothing big. Yeah,

5447
03:46:36,880 --> 03:46:37,830
>> for them.

5448
03:46:37,830 --> 03:46:37,840
» for them.

5449
03:46:37,840 --> 03:46:39,750
>> Yeah, I would have to get more

5450
03:46:39,750 --> 03:46:39,760
» Yeah, I would have to get more

5451
03:46:39,760 --> 03:46:41,840
information on the water savings kind of

5452
03:46:41,840 --> 03:46:44,399
exact numbers. Um, but I think some of

5453
03:46:44,399 --> 03:46:45,680
the things that'll provide a lot of

5454
03:46:45,680 --> 03:46:47,520
efficiencies are right now our aged

5455
03:46:47,520 --> 03:46:49,520
irrigation systems, our overhead spray,

5456
03:46:49,520 --> 03:46:51,680
providing water to trees and turf. And

5457
03:46:51,680 --> 03:46:53,199
so in drought situations, we either have

5458
03:46:53,199 --> 03:46:55,120
to turn off our entire system, which uh

5459
03:46:55,120 --> 03:46:57,199
stresses out the trees and kind of puts

5460
03:46:57,199 --> 03:46:59,279
our canopy at risk, or we water the turf

5461
03:46:59,279 --> 03:47:01,279
in addition. And so as we separate those

5462
03:47:01,279 --> 03:47:03,600
out, we'll be able to water only trees,

5463
03:47:03,600 --> 03:47:05,920
not turf in our drought conditions. And

5464
03:47:05,920 --> 03:47:08,080
then replacing passive areas with native

5465
03:47:08,080 --> 03:47:10,800
water landscaping can reduce water use

5466
03:47:10,800 --> 03:47:13,680
up to 60% in those areas. Um so I'll

5467
03:47:13,680 --> 03:47:14,800
have to get more information on

5468
03:47:14,800 --> 03:47:17,199
individual dollar amounts. Um but we are

5469
03:47:17,199 --> 03:47:20,479
as we're doing um implementing new

5470
03:47:20,479 --> 03:47:22,880
projects outside of this program, we are

5471
03:47:22,880 --> 03:47:24,560
upgrading all of our irrigation,

5472
03:47:24,560 --> 03:47:26,880
separating out trees and turf irrigation

5473
03:47:26,880 --> 03:47:29,279
where possible and utilizing as many of

5474
03:47:29,279 --> 03:47:31,600
those programs as possible. Um they're

5475
03:47:31,600 --> 03:47:33,920
kind of on a smaller scale. A lot of our

5476
03:47:33,920 --> 03:47:35,760
irrigation systems included in this

5477
03:47:35,760 --> 03:47:37,600
program are kind of wholesale parks that

5478
03:47:37,600 --> 03:47:40,000
require a significant amount of kind of

5479
03:47:40,000 --> 03:47:41,840
overhaul and investment. So that's why

5480
03:47:41,840 --> 03:47:43,600
you're seeing larger dollar amounts for

5481
03:47:43,600 --> 03:47:47,760
those. We um we also got a report years

5482
03:47:47,760 --> 03:47:51,439
ago from uh public lands on this issue.

5483
03:47:51,439 --> 03:47:54,399
Um and [snorts] it's a lot of money that

5484
03:47:54,399 --> 03:47:57,040
is needed to upgrade our parks to the

5485
03:47:57,040 --> 03:47:59,520
standard that we need to. I would like

5486
03:47:59,520 --> 03:48:03,520
two things. One is that we can as a city

5487
03:48:03,520 --> 03:48:05,840
advocate for

5488
03:48:05,840 --> 03:48:07,840
I know I'm dreaming too big right here.

5489
03:48:07,840 --> 03:48:11,920
Um state participation and and public

5490
03:48:11,920 --> 03:48:14,640
lands. And we are not the only city that

5491
03:48:14,640 --> 03:48:17,279
has this issue as pretty much every city

5492
03:48:17,279 --> 03:48:20,080
with you know older parks with majority

5493
03:48:20,080 --> 03:48:23,120
of cities. And we're talking about a

5494
03:48:23,120 --> 03:48:25,920
significant impact on our water. Uh we

5495
03:48:25,920 --> 03:48:28,319
can save a ton of water uh if we

5496
03:48:28,319 --> 03:48:31,199
actually are able to upgrade this this

5497
03:48:31,199 --> 03:48:34,640
uh systems. Uh but no city in this

5498
03:48:34,640 --> 03:48:36,960
valley will have the capacity to do this

5499
03:48:36,960 --> 03:48:39,439
ever. There is always a bigger emergency

5500
03:48:39,439 --> 03:48:43,120
for us. Um, so that will be one thing

5501
03:48:43,120 --> 03:48:44,640
that I hope hopefully we can put

5502
03:48:44,640 --> 03:48:46,960
together a little plan and start loving

5503
03:48:46,960 --> 03:48:49,520
and and getting partners uh in our state

5504
03:48:49,520 --> 03:48:52,720
leadership to see if we can get some

5505
03:48:52,720 --> 03:48:54,239
matching funds. I don't know or

5506
03:48:54,239 --> 03:48:57,439
something. Um, anything really. Um, and

5507
03:48:57,439 --> 03:48:59,840
the other thing is

5508
03:48:59,840 --> 03:49:03,199
I went through the classes, you know,

5509
03:49:03,199 --> 03:49:05,279
the water wise classes to learn how to

5510
03:49:05,279 --> 03:49:08,479
local scape. This is through um during

5511
03:49:08,479 --> 03:49:10,080
the pandemic. I learned how to do all

5512
03:49:10,080 --> 03:49:14,239
those things. It was very fun. Um I

5513
03:49:14,239 --> 03:49:16,560
would love to see if there is a way of

5514
03:49:16,560 --> 03:49:18,479
getting creative

5515
03:49:18,479 --> 03:49:22,880
uh on how to separate both our uh lawns

5516
03:49:22,880 --> 03:49:25,680
and our trees. Uh they may not be as

5517
03:49:25,680 --> 03:49:28,720
pretty as we wish they were. Um right.

5518
03:49:28,720 --> 03:49:32,160
So t trenching and putting pulling all

5519
03:49:32,160 --> 03:49:34,800
the pipes and taking all replacing them

5520
03:49:34,800 --> 03:49:37,199
with multiple zones and all of that is

5521
03:49:37,199 --> 03:49:39,920
expensive. I get it. But I wonder if

5522
03:49:39,920 --> 03:49:42,560
there is a strategic uh plan that we can

5523
03:49:42,560 --> 03:49:45,120
say we can do this with this median or

5524
03:49:45,120 --> 03:49:46,880
with several medians. We can actually

5525
03:49:46,880 --> 03:49:50,080
put um you know the irrigation lines

5526
03:49:50,080 --> 03:49:52,319
above the ground uh for the trees and

5527
03:49:52,319 --> 03:49:55,840
then we can start you know in in in

5528
03:49:55,840 --> 03:50:00,319
smaller chunks um uh making strategic

5529
03:50:00,319 --> 03:50:03,439
investments to get us closer. Um, I wish

5530
03:50:03,439 --> 03:50:05,760
people and to me I think it's a it's

5531
03:50:05,760 --> 03:50:08,000
something that people should see. We

5532
03:50:08,000 --> 03:50:10,560
they should see those pipes outside

5533
03:50:10,560 --> 03:50:12,720
above ground, those irrigations pipe

5534
03:50:12,720 --> 03:50:14,479
above ground. Those are, you know,

5535
03:50:14,479 --> 03:50:16,720
flimsy, right? We we know how they are.

5536
03:50:16,720 --> 03:50:18,800
Um, because they need to also do the

5537
03:50:18,800 --> 03:50:20,880
same. We also need to do the same to

5538
03:50:20,880 --> 03:50:22,640
start separating our lawns versus our

5539
03:50:22,640 --> 03:50:26,000
trees and conserve water that way. Um,

5540
03:50:26,000 --> 03:50:29,760
so I I I would love to see something in

5541
03:50:29,760 --> 03:50:32,560
that aspect where we can teach but also

5542
03:50:32,560 --> 03:50:36,160
show by example what how tenuous the the

5543
03:50:36,160 --> 03:50:38,239
issue is.

5544
03:50:38,239 --> 03:50:40,309
>> Yeah, thank you so much for saying that.

5545
03:50:40,309 --> 03:50:40,319
» Yeah, thank you so much for saying that.

5546
03:50:40,319 --> 03:50:43,600
Um, and we appreciate you funding this

5547
03:50:43,600 --> 03:50:46,080
program the last couple of years. And I

5548
03:50:46,080 --> 03:50:47,920
think part of the intent of some of that

5549
03:50:47,920 --> 03:50:50,800
funding is using some of the medians and

5550
03:50:50,800 --> 03:50:52,399
islands that were funded in the previous

5551
03:50:52,399 --> 03:50:54,080
years to kind of do demonstration

5552
03:50:54,080 --> 03:50:56,239
gardens. Um, we're working with our

5553
03:50:56,239 --> 03:50:57,840
communications team to kind of do

5554
03:50:57,840 --> 03:50:59,680
communications campaigns surrounding

5555
03:50:59,680 --> 03:51:01,920
this because there is a big uh there

5556
03:51:01,920 --> 03:51:03,520
will be a big shift in aesthetic from

5557
03:51:03,520 --> 03:51:05,199
kind of the lawn look to the native

5558
03:51:05,199 --> 03:51:06,960
look. And so I think you're spot on

5559
03:51:06,960 --> 03:51:08,000
there and we're going to start doing

5560
03:51:08,000 --> 03:51:09,520
that. And so yeah, we can definitely

5561
03:51:09,520 --> 03:51:11,199
keep you informed as those projects kind

5562
03:51:11,199 --> 03:51:12,800
of start coming online and we can kind

5563
03:51:12,800 --> 03:51:14,560
of see examples of those in our existing

5564
03:51:14,560 --> 03:51:16,720
with our existing funding. So thank you.

5565
03:51:16,720 --> 03:51:19,830
>> Thank you.

5566
03:51:19,830 --> 03:51:19,840
» Thank you.

5567
03:51:19,840 --> 03:51:20,469
>> Thank you.

5568
03:51:20,469 --> 03:51:20,479
» Thank you.

5569
03:51:20,479 --> 03:51:23,510
>> Great. So um the next project also not

5570
03:51:23,510 --> 03:51:23,520
» Great. So um the next project also not

5571
03:51:23,520 --> 03:51:26,000
funded recommended for funding, excuse

5572
03:51:26,000 --> 03:51:30,560
me. Um bikeway gaps 2027.

5573
03:51:30,560 --> 03:51:32,800
Any questions? Should we keep going?

5574
03:51:32,800 --> 03:51:37,040
Okay. Um project number 20. Um, this was

5575
03:51:37,040 --> 03:51:39,439
not recommended by the CDCIP board, but

5576
03:51:39,439 --> 03:51:42,560
it was by the mayor. You may recall, we

5577
03:51:42,560 --> 03:51:44,560
discussed this in the budget review,

5578
03:51:44,560 --> 03:51:47,520
that the septic system is costing a lot

5579
03:51:47,520 --> 03:51:50,080
of money in maintenance.

5580
03:51:50,080 --> 03:51:50,309
>> So,

5581
03:51:50,309 --> 03:51:50,319
» So,

5582
03:51:50,319 --> 03:51:52,070
>> I tried to kill it. I couldn't. It was

5583
03:51:52,070 --> 03:51:52,080
» I tried to kill it. I couldn't. It was

5584
03:51:52,080 --> 03:51:54,399
obvious that we need it. So, just saying

5585
03:51:54,399 --> 03:51:56,630
>> no.

5586
03:51:56,630 --> 03:51:56,640
» no.

5587
03:51:56,640 --> 03:51:59,990
>> Yes. Okay. Project number 21 not

5588
03:51:59,990 --> 03:52:00,000
» Yes. Okay. Project number 21 not

5589
03:52:00,000 --> 03:52:01,760
recommended for funding. It was a civic

5590
03:52:01,760 --> 03:52:03,920
center construction documents. That's

5591
03:52:03,920 --> 03:52:05,520
mainly because there's funding coming

5592
03:52:05,520 --> 03:52:08,720
from other sources on that. So, I think

5593
03:52:08,720 --> 03:52:11,840
we're good to go there. Um, project 22,

5594
03:52:11,840 --> 03:52:14,319
this is citywide project parks legal

5595
03:52:14,319 --> 03:52:17,359
compliance with 202010 ADA standards for

5596
03:52:17,359 --> 03:52:19,920
accessible design program. Mayor

5597
03:52:19,920 --> 03:52:25,600
recommended funding. CDC did not. Um,

5598
03:52:25,600 --> 03:52:28,000
it's for pedestrian access routes,

5599
03:52:28,000 --> 03:52:29,680
playgrounds, and accessible ground

5600
03:52:29,680 --> 03:52:33,359
surfacing for play areas and access

5601
03:52:33,359 --> 03:52:36,160
within and to restrooms for ADA

5602
03:52:36,160 --> 03:52:36,960
compliance.

5603
03:52:36,960 --> 03:52:38,469
>> Oh, Council Member Young,

5604
03:52:38,469 --> 03:52:38,479
» Oh, Council Member Young,

5605
03:52:38,479 --> 03:52:41,670
>> um, can we just get the the up to seven

5606
03:52:41,670 --> 03:52:41,680
» um, can we just get the the up to seven

5607
03:52:41,680 --> 03:52:44,080
parks like just a better understanding

5608
03:52:44,080 --> 03:52:46,960
of like what those proposed priorities

5609
03:52:46,960 --> 03:52:48,160
are?

5610
03:52:48,160 --> 03:52:49,110
>> Yeah.

5611
03:52:49,110 --> 03:52:49,120
» Yeah.

5612
03:52:49,120 --> 03:52:50,790
>> Thank you.

5613
03:52:50,790 --> 03:52:50,800
» Thank you.

5614
03:52:50,800 --> 03:52:51,189
>> Great.

5615
03:52:51,189 --> 03:52:51,199
» Great.

5616
03:52:51,199 --> 03:52:52,950
>> Oh, I think they're coming. I think

5617
03:52:52,950 --> 03:52:52,960
» Oh, I think they're coming. I think

5618
03:52:52,960 --> 03:52:56,630
you're going to get an answer.

5619
03:52:56,640 --> 03:52:58,399
» I can provide that now or in writing,

5620
03:52:58,399 --> 03:52:59,439
whatever is easier.

5621
03:52:59,439 --> 03:53:01,990
>> Yeah. No, I'm I'm very

5622
03:53:01,990 --> 03:53:02,000
» Yeah. No, I'm I'm very

5623
03:53:02,000 --> 03:53:03,510
>> um our priority list, and this is based

5624
03:53:03,510 --> 03:53:03,520
» um our priority list, and this is based

5625
03:53:03,520 --> 03:53:05,199
on the mayor's office self-evaluation

5626
03:53:05,199 --> 03:53:06,720
and transition plan that they did a

5627
03:53:06,720 --> 03:53:08,880
couple of years ago. So, we prioritize

5628
03:53:08,880 --> 03:53:11,120
Parley's Way Park, Jordan Park, Sixth

5629
03:53:11,120 --> 03:53:13,120
East Park, Lindsay Gardens Park,

5630
03:53:13,120 --> 03:53:14,960
Ballpark Playground, West Point Park,

5631
03:53:14,960 --> 03:53:18,160
and Davis Park. And the most expensive

5632
03:53:18,160 --> 03:53:20,640
part of this funding is accessible

5633
03:53:20,640 --> 03:53:22,560
surfacing and playgrounds. So, we'd be

5634
03:53:22,560 --> 03:53:24,399
replacing the EWF, which is engineered

5635
03:53:24,399 --> 03:53:26,800
wood fiber, the wood chips, which is not

5636
03:53:26,800 --> 03:53:30,080
technically, it is technically ADA

5637
03:53:30,080 --> 03:53:31,520
compliant with a certain level of

5638
03:53:31,520 --> 03:53:33,279
maintenance that we're not necessarily

5639
03:53:33,279 --> 03:53:34,720
able to guarantee. And so, we'd be

5640
03:53:34,720 --> 03:53:36,319
replacing that with the rubber port in

5641
03:53:36,319 --> 03:53:38,319
place to make it fully accessible. So,

5642
03:53:38,319 --> 03:53:39,760
that's kind of where the lion's share of

5643
03:53:39,760 --> 03:53:42,720
that comes. And then access to and

5644
03:53:42,720 --> 03:53:46,319
within restrooms and from arrival points

5645
03:53:46,319 --> 03:53:48,720
to amenities within the park.

5646
03:53:48,720 --> 03:53:51,269
>> Thank you.

5647
03:53:51,269 --> 03:53:51,279
» Thank you.

5648
03:53:51,279 --> 03:53:52,080
Thank you.

5649
03:53:52,080 --> 03:53:54,950
>> Great. Project I think there might have

5650
03:53:54,950 --> 03:53:54,960
» Great. Project I think there might have

5651
03:53:54,960 --> 03:53:58,160
been another Nope. Project 23. Um this

5652
03:53:58,160 --> 03:54:00,479
is a constituent application and

5653
03:54:00,479 --> 03:54:02,239
recommended for funding for Highland

5654
03:54:02,239 --> 03:54:05,199
Park Elementary sidewalks. Um I want to

5655
03:54:05,199 --> 03:54:06,800
point out that with the constituent

5656
03:54:06,800 --> 03:54:09,199
applications, the CDCIP was really

5657
03:54:09,199 --> 03:54:11,760
looking at safety improvements around

5658
03:54:11,760 --> 03:54:19,269
schools. So this checks those boxes.

5659
03:54:19,279 --> 03:54:21,439
Yes.

5660
03:54:21,439 --> 03:54:22,229
>> Yeah.

5661
03:54:22,229 --> 03:54:22,239
» Yeah.

5662
03:54:22,239 --> 03:54:25,030
>> So, when we do things like this, um, we

5663
03:54:25,030 --> 03:54:25,040
» So, when we do things like this, um, we

5664
03:54:25,040 --> 03:54:27,359
just talked about a larger city-wide

5665
03:54:27,359 --> 03:54:30,160
goal with sidewalks. Are those citywide

5666
03:54:30,160 --> 03:54:32,960
goals superimposed onto this as well so

5667
03:54:32,960 --> 03:54:34,560
that we're getting bang for our buck?

5668
03:54:34,560 --> 03:54:36,399
Like,

5669
03:54:36,399 --> 03:54:38,239
we're going to do the ADA compliance

5670
03:54:38,239 --> 03:54:41,199
here as well to make sure. Like I can't

5671
03:54:41,199 --> 03:54:44,160
imagine we would rebuild without an ADA

5672
03:54:44,160 --> 03:54:47,680
compliance, but I I have I have very

5673
03:54:47,680 --> 03:54:51,359
mixed emotions about constituent

5674
03:54:51,359 --> 03:54:53,760
le applications that feel like they're

5675
03:54:53,760 --> 03:54:55,120
cutting in line when we have a

5676
03:54:55,120 --> 03:54:57,600
department that prioritizes. So I I

5677
03:54:57,600 --> 03:54:58,880
would never say no to something that

5678
03:54:58,880 --> 03:55:00,880
helps kids get to school safely, but it

5679
03:55:00,880 --> 03:55:03,040
does feel like a redundant ask that

5680
03:55:03,040 --> 03:55:05,199
might be rep prioritizing. So tell me at

5681
03:55:05,199 --> 03:55:06,479
least if we're going to do that rep

5682
03:55:06,479 --> 03:55:08,080
prioritizing that we are making sure

5683
03:55:08,080 --> 03:55:10,319
that the citywide priorities are being

5684
03:55:10,319 --> 03:55:11,760
observed and we're just checking that

5685
03:55:11,760 --> 03:55:13,439
off our list of to-dos.

5686
03:55:13,439 --> 03:55:16,150
>> No, that's that's a great point. Um

5687
03:55:16,150 --> 03:55:16,160
» No, that's that's a great point. Um

5688
03:55:16,160 --> 03:55:18,000
every opportunity where we can combine

5689
03:55:18,000 --> 03:55:20,239
projects under a single contractor. And

5690
03:55:20,239 --> 03:55:22,319
so when we take these and we get our

5691
03:55:22,319 --> 03:55:24,640
approved list that that it's funded, we

5692
03:55:24,640 --> 03:55:26,720
will look at our other railway projects,

5693
03:55:26,720 --> 03:55:29,279
livable streets projects, local streets

5694
03:55:29,279 --> 03:55:32,319
projects, sidewalk projects where we can

5695
03:55:32,319 --> 03:55:34,560
get economies of scale to do multiple

5696
03:55:34,560 --> 03:55:37,040
projects under one. So you may never see

5697
03:55:37,040 --> 03:55:39,439
if this get approved an actual project

5698
03:55:39,439 --> 03:55:41,600
that lists just this project. It will be

5699
03:55:41,600 --> 03:55:43,680
lumped up under another local streets

5700
03:55:43,680 --> 03:55:45,359
projects. And that's across the board

5701
03:55:45,359 --> 03:55:47,040
kind of back to my comments for item

5702
03:55:47,040 --> 03:55:48,960
number one. every opportunity that we

5703
03:55:48,960 --> 03:55:50,399
can to combine projects through

5704
03:55:50,399 --> 03:55:52,399
economies of scale to get that bang for

5705
03:55:52,399 --> 03:55:54,399
the buck. That's what we that's what we

5706
03:55:54,399 --> 03:55:56,800
look at citywide.

5707
03:55:56,800 --> 03:55:57,910
>> That's beyond

5708
03:55:57,910 --> 03:55:57,920
» That's beyond

5709
03:55:57,920 --> 03:56:00,070
>> Yeah. So, obviously this is in my

5710
03:56:00,070 --> 03:56:00,080
» Yeah. So, obviously this is in my

5711
03:56:00,080 --> 03:56:03,040
district. Um I will just say this is

5712
03:56:03,040 --> 03:56:06,800
like a really interesting one because we

5713
03:56:06,800 --> 03:56:09,520
um as like both the neighborhoods and

5714
03:56:09,520 --> 03:56:10,960
working with council and the

5715
03:56:10,960 --> 03:56:13,279
administration looked at other

5716
03:56:13,279 --> 03:56:15,840
solutions. And so we were like, could we

5717
03:56:15,840 --> 03:56:18,239
even start with like just painting out

5718
03:56:18,239 --> 03:56:20,640
an area that was like this parts for the

5719
03:56:20,640 --> 03:56:23,279
kids, you know, um, within that space.

5720
03:56:23,279 --> 03:56:25,120
And because of the nature of this road

5721
03:56:25,120 --> 03:56:28,080
and like how grally it is, that paint

5722
03:56:28,080 --> 03:56:30,479
wouldn't last. And so I just wanted to

5723
03:56:30,479 --> 03:56:33,840
highlight that they pursued other like

5724
03:56:33,840 --> 03:56:36,479
less expensive like potential solutions

5725
03:56:36,479 --> 03:56:38,880
and vetted those only to just find out

5726
03:56:38,880 --> 03:56:41,359
that that wasn't going to be feasible.

5727
03:56:41,359 --> 03:56:44,720
Um, one of the applicants for this um

5728
03:56:44,720 --> 03:56:48,640
actually um had a child who was hit um

5729
03:56:48,640 --> 03:56:52,239
on the way to school and um it it is

5730
03:56:52,239 --> 03:56:54,080
it's it's one of those things where it's

5731
03:56:54,080 --> 03:56:56,560
marked by the school district is this is

5732
03:56:56,560 --> 03:56:59,439
how you get to school and yet there's no

5733
03:56:59,439 --> 03:57:01,840
sidewalk. Um so they're just competing

5734
03:57:01,840 --> 03:57:04,800
with cars and it's creating a safety

5735
03:57:04,800 --> 03:57:06,960
issue. So anyway, I just wanted to

5736
03:57:06,960 --> 03:57:08,640
provide that additional color to the

5737
03:57:08,640 --> 03:57:11,990
application.

5738
03:57:12,000 --> 03:57:14,880
Thank you.

5739
03:57:14,880 --> 03:57:16,630
>> Great.

5740
03:57:16,630 --> 03:57:16,640
» Great.

5741
03:57:16,640 --> 03:57:20,160
Next application, project number 24.

5742
03:57:20,160 --> 03:57:22,080
This is another constituent application

5743
03:57:22,080 --> 03:57:24,080
that was recommended for funding.

5744
03:57:24,080 --> 03:57:26,309
>> Let me let me interrupt you. So, I I

5745
03:57:26,309 --> 03:57:26,319
» Let me let me interrupt you. So, I I

5746
03:57:26,319 --> 03:57:29,680
just remember years ago, we tried I you

5747
03:57:29,680 --> 03:57:31,279
know, not to take the merits out of this

5748
03:57:31,279 --> 03:57:33,040
because I I I know how hard you worked

5749
03:57:33,040 --> 03:57:36,080
on advocating for this. uh 100% on board

5750
03:57:36,080 --> 03:57:39,199
uh supporting it. But um Victoria and

5751
03:57:39,199 --> 03:57:42,080
myself brought up to the city uh the

5752
03:57:42,080 --> 03:57:46,560
sidewalk by Wallace Stegner uh years ago

5753
03:57:46,560 --> 03:57:50,800
um and there's not one um and it's

5754
03:57:50,800 --> 03:57:53,040
gravel and pointy weeds

5755
03:57:53,040 --> 03:57:54,950
>> and even more traffic thanks to the

5756
03:57:54,950 --> 03:57:54,960
» and even more traffic thanks to the

5757
03:57:54,960 --> 03:57:56,720
other things that we approved with that

5758
03:57:56,720 --> 03:57:58,319
sidewalk as a contingency

5759
03:57:58,319 --> 03:58:02,150
>> and the city because this is a charter

5760
03:58:02,150 --> 03:58:02,160
» and the city because this is a charter

5761
03:58:02,160 --> 03:58:04,319
school. I'll bet one of the most

5762
03:58:04,319 --> 03:58:07,680
successful charter schools uh in the in

5763
03:58:07,680 --> 03:58:09,920
in the valley and probably one one of

5764
03:58:09,920 --> 03:58:13,120
the most prestigious ones out there. Um

5765
03:58:13,120 --> 03:58:14,800
you know there was a lot of reasons why

5766
03:58:14,800 --> 03:58:18,720
this sidewalk couldn't happen. Um and

5767
03:58:18,720 --> 03:58:22,560
there's semis and trucks and cars and no

5768
03:58:22,560 --> 03:58:25,920
sidewalk still. Um, and I would love to

5769
03:58:25,920 --> 03:58:29,520
highlight that um, as a as a a place

5770
03:58:29,520 --> 03:58:32,080
where hopefully we can do something at

5771
03:58:32,080 --> 03:58:34,399
some point. Um, you know, we brought it

5772
03:58:34,399 --> 03:58:37,279
up four years ago. I hope that at some

5773
03:58:37,279 --> 03:58:38,800
point we can do something. Maybe paint.

5774
03:58:38,800 --> 03:58:40,960
Maybe this is one of those roads that

5775
03:58:40,960 --> 03:58:42,239
maybe some of the things that we learned

5776
03:58:42,239 --> 03:58:45,040
from this other project, we can do uh,

5777
03:58:45,040 --> 03:58:48,160
here to get us a little closer to a real

5778
03:58:48,160 --> 03:58:50,560
solution. So, thank you. Sorry, I it

5779
03:58:50,560 --> 03:58:52,239
just popped in my head and I can now

5780
03:58:52,239 --> 03:58:54,960
keep it.

5781
03:58:54,960 --> 03:58:58,479
Great. Okay. Got that note down. Project

5782
03:58:58,479 --> 03:59:02,479
number 24. Good to go. Yep. Okay. This

5783
03:59:02,479 --> 03:59:04,479
is another constituent application for

5784
03:59:04,479 --> 03:59:06,960
1700 South neighborhood byway crossings.

5785
03:59:06,960 --> 03:59:10,080
They are proposing six of these between

5786
03:59:10,080 --> 03:59:14,640
200 East and 1200 East. Um this was

5787
03:59:14,640 --> 03:59:19,830
recommended for approval.

5788
03:59:19,840 --> 03:59:23,680
Okay. Um the next application was not

5789
03:59:23,680 --> 03:59:25,840
recommended for approval. It was a

5790
03:59:25,840 --> 03:59:29,439
constituent application to repave alley

5791
03:59:29,439 --> 03:59:37,110
um number 4195.

5792
03:59:37,120 --> 03:59:38,399
» Yes,

5793
03:59:38,399 --> 03:59:41,269
>> I have a question about this one. So, I

5794
03:59:41,269 --> 03:59:41,279
» I have a question about this one. So, I

5795
03:59:41,279 --> 03:59:43,920
think the question I just had was about

5796
03:59:43,920 --> 03:59:46,960
the narrative in terms of the fact that

5797
03:59:46,960 --> 03:59:50,960
it was damaged by a contractor. And I'm

5798
03:59:50,960 --> 03:59:52,880
just I I guess I'm trying to figure out

5799
03:59:52,880 --> 03:59:55,520
like roles and responsibilities related

5800
03:59:55,520 --> 03:59:59,279
to like if they have another option to

5801
03:59:59,279 --> 04:00:01,680
pursue

5802
04:00:01,680 --> 04:00:06,319
improvements from the contractor.

5803
04:00:06,319 --> 04:00:09,600
So whenever we'll have construction like

5804
04:00:09,600 --> 04:00:13,440
uh in this area uh if that alleyway

5805
04:00:13,440 --> 04:00:14,720
[clears throat] becomes kind of an

5806
04:00:14,720 --> 04:00:18,479
unintended route or an intended route um

5807
04:00:18,479 --> 04:00:20,399
usually we don't like to divert

5808
04:00:20,399 --> 04:00:22,239
construction traffic on alleyways but

5809
04:00:22,239 --> 04:00:23,939
they just happen to end up being

5810
04:00:23,939 --> 04:00:26,000
[clears throat] that way. If there's

5811
04:00:26,000 --> 04:00:28,399
damage that can be attested to a

5812
04:00:28,399 --> 04:00:30,080
contractor, we will absolutely pursue

5813
04:00:30,080 --> 04:00:32,160
those with the contractor as part of

5814
04:00:32,160 --> 04:00:34,640
their uh corrective and warranty periods

5815
04:00:34,640 --> 04:00:37,279
that are associated with construction. U

5816
04:00:37,279 --> 04:00:39,359
but I would have to go back through to

5817
04:00:39,359 --> 04:00:41,120
take a look at this one in particular to

5818
04:00:41,120 --> 04:00:43,199
see if we were able to pinpoint this was

5819
04:00:43,199 --> 04:00:45,359
the contractor. I can assure you that if

5820
04:00:45,359 --> 04:00:47,040
it is the contractor's responsibility

5821
04:00:47,040 --> 04:00:48,640
and they damaged it and we can prove

5822
04:00:48,640 --> 04:00:50,560
that through photos or through

5823
04:00:50,560 --> 04:00:52,160
investigation,

5824
04:00:52,160 --> 04:00:55,359
uh then we'll do so. We often admonish

5825
04:00:55,359 --> 04:00:58,080
contractors and anyone that we can take

5826
04:00:58,080 --> 04:01:00,800
a look at pre-construction photos or

5827
04:01:00,800 --> 04:01:03,920
videos. Uh that really saves everyone

5828
04:01:03,920 --> 04:01:06,080
and provides accountability in the sense

5829
04:01:06,080 --> 04:01:10,160
that hey um we can attest this to damage

5830
04:01:10,160 --> 04:01:12,800
or the road was already deteriorated. Uh

5831
04:01:12,800 --> 04:01:14,239
we can't really attest it to just

5832
04:01:14,239 --> 04:01:15,840
construction traffic other than just

5833
04:01:15,840 --> 04:01:18,319
older roadway that deteriorated with

5834
04:01:18,319 --> 04:01:21,359
some additional traffic. So, if if we

5835
04:01:21,359 --> 04:01:23,439
can determine and if the wording of this

5836
04:01:23,439 --> 04:01:25,520
is such that it is on the contractor,

5837
04:01:25,520 --> 04:01:26,640
then we'll absolutely hold the

5838
04:01:26,640 --> 04:01:27,840
contractor responsible and I'll go back

5839
04:01:27,840 --> 04:01:28,800
and take a look at it.

5840
04:01:28,800 --> 04:01:31,110
>> Yeah, I just appreciate us looking into

5841
04:01:31,110 --> 04:01:31,120
» Yeah, I just appreciate us looking into

5842
04:01:31,120 --> 04:01:33,520
that um just to at least determine

5843
04:01:33,520 --> 04:01:36,640
responsibilities in terms of informing

5844
04:01:36,640 --> 04:01:38,880
whether or not this applicant should

5845
04:01:38,880 --> 04:01:41,520
come back in the future or if we might

5846
04:01:41,520 --> 04:01:43,359
have a different avenue for them to

5847
04:01:43,359 --> 04:01:43,840
pursue.

5848
04:01:43,840 --> 04:01:45,189
>> No, I'll follow up on this one.

5849
04:01:45,189 --> 04:01:45,199
» No, I'll follow up on this one.

5850
04:01:45,199 --> 04:01:48,630
>> Thank you.

5851
04:01:48,640 --> 04:01:53,120
Great. Uh, next is project number 26.

5852
04:01:53,120 --> 04:01:56,160
Um, this was charging stations for the

5853
04:01:56,160 --> 04:01:59,040
public the PSB phase three. Last year

5854
04:01:59,040 --> 04:02:02,800
you approved phases two and one. Um, so

5855
04:02:02,800 --> 04:02:06,399
this is the last phase of the EV

5856
04:02:06,399 --> 04:02:09,600
charging and it was recommended by the

5857
04:02:09,600 --> 04:02:15,030
mayor but not by the CDCIP board.

5858
04:02:15,040 --> 04:02:18,720
Great. Um, next application is a

5859
04:02:18,720 --> 04:02:21,760
constituent application number 27 and it

5860
04:02:21,760 --> 04:02:23,439
was recommended for funding. It's the

5861
04:02:23,439 --> 04:02:26,399
Rose Park Safe routes to school crossing

5862
04:02:26,399 --> 04:02:29,760
safety improvements. Um,

5863
04:02:29,760 --> 04:02:32,800
again looking at those crossings near

5864
04:02:32,800 --> 04:02:38,070
schools.

5865
04:02:38,080 --> 04:02:38,640
» Yes.

5866
04:02:38,640 --> 04:02:41,463
>> Great.

5867
04:02:41,463 --> 04:02:41,473
» Great.

5868
04:02:41,473 --> 04:02:42,720
[laughter]

5869
04:02:42,720 --> 04:02:44,389
>> Great. See previous school-based

5870
04:02:44,389 --> 04:02:44,399
» Great. See previous school-based

5871
04:02:44,399 --> 04:02:46,239
discussions. Same thing.

5872
04:02:46,239 --> 04:02:49,830
>> Yes. Okay. Next application. The next

5873
04:02:49,830 --> 04:02:49,840
» Yes. Okay. Next application. The next

5874
04:02:49,840 --> 04:02:51,840
three applications um were not

5875
04:02:51,840 --> 04:02:55,439
recommended for funding. Um application

5876
04:02:55,439 --> 04:02:58,720
28, traffic circle at 700 South, 500

5877
04:02:58,720 --> 04:03:03,439
West. Um application 29, access control

5878
04:03:03,439 --> 04:03:08,239
transition to S2. And then application

5879
04:03:08,239 --> 04:03:10,560
30, this was a constituent application.

5880
04:03:10,560 --> 04:03:12,960
Popppler Grove, 500 South Traffic

5881
04:03:12,960 --> 04:03:20,309
Calming.

5882
04:03:20,319 --> 04:03:21,680
» Sarah, sorry.

5883
04:03:21,680 --> 04:03:25,830
>> I have a question on number 29

5884
04:03:25,830 --> 04:03:25,840
» I have a question on number 29

5885
04:03:25,840 --> 04:03:28,720
and just the access control transition

5886
04:03:28,720 --> 04:03:30,560
to S2.

5887
04:03:30,560 --> 04:03:34,239
Um it it noted that there's 13 and I I

5888
04:03:34,239 --> 04:03:35,040
don't know if [snorts] this is a

5889
04:03:35,040 --> 04:03:36,560
security issue and maybe better answer

5890
04:03:36,560 --> 04:03:38,720
it offline. Um but it says that there's

5891
04:03:38,720 --> 04:03:42,080
13 facilities. Um I'm just curious like

5892
04:03:42,080 --> 04:03:43,920
what

5893
04:03:43,920 --> 04:03:45,920
could we get like an overview of like

5894
04:03:45,920 --> 04:03:49,120
what those key facilities are that are

5895
04:03:49,120 --> 04:03:55,590
still missing this

5896
04:03:55,600 --> 04:03:58,880
cover those. So without

5897
04:03:58,880 --> 04:04:01,510
>> without getting into detail about each

5898
04:04:01,510 --> 04:04:01,520
» without getting into detail about each

5899
04:04:01,520 --> 04:04:04,720
individual facility, Maya can elaborate

5900
04:04:04,720 --> 04:04:07,600
on some of those um the the effort that

5901
04:04:07,600 --> 04:04:10,479
we've gone through over multiple years

5902
04:04:10,479 --> 04:04:13,760
to just upgrade. The facilities that are

5903
04:04:13,760 --> 04:04:15,120
that haven't been upgraded are still

5904
04:04:15,120 --> 04:04:18,560
working. It's a matter of some technical

5905
04:04:18,560 --> 04:04:20,640
backend things and then carrying two

5906
04:04:20,640 --> 04:04:23,199
badges. So, so folks that a lot of

5907
04:04:23,199 --> 04:04:25,279
people are still carrying two badges and

5908
04:04:25,279 --> 04:04:29,600
and the system the old system is old.

5909
04:04:29,600 --> 04:04:33,269
>> Okay, that's helpful. Um I just I know

5910
04:04:33,269 --> 04:04:33,279
» Okay, that's helpful. Um I just I know

5911
04:04:33,279 --> 04:04:36,319
security has been a key con

5912
04:04:36,319 --> 04:04:40,960
consideration of this council. Um and so

5913
04:04:40,960 --> 04:04:44,880
I appreciate that. Um I guess I I would

5914
04:04:44,880 --> 04:04:48,000
just flag this one in terms of like a

5915
04:04:48,000 --> 04:04:51,199
comprehensive citywide concern. um maybe

5916
04:04:51,199 --> 04:04:54,319
for future conversation.

5917
04:04:54,319 --> 04:04:57,110
>> Yeah, I think we're we're we're

5918
04:04:57,110 --> 04:04:57,120
» Yeah, I think we're we're we're

5919
04:04:57,120 --> 04:04:59,439
still upgrading if if we have remaining

5920
04:04:59,439 --> 04:05:01,359
funds like this last year. We did have

5921
04:05:01,359 --> 04:05:03,199
some remaining funds. Mike can provide

5922
04:05:03,199 --> 04:05:04,800
some detail on that, but we're we're

5923
04:05:04,800 --> 04:05:05,920
still making progress.

5924
04:05:05,920 --> 04:05:08,309
>> Yes. So once we found out we were not

5925
04:05:08,309 --> 04:05:08,319
» Yes. So once we found out we were not

5926
04:05:08,319 --> 04:05:09,680
going to receive funding for this

5927
04:05:09,680 --> 04:05:12,000
project most likely we were able to find

5928
04:05:12,000 --> 04:05:13,520
some end ofear funding to cover our

5929
04:05:13,520 --> 04:05:15,120
streets and fleet facilities which was

5930
04:05:15,120 --> 04:05:18,080
crucial because PD is going in for fuel

5931
04:05:18,080 --> 04:05:19,680
after hours just to make sure that they

5932
04:05:19,680 --> 04:05:21,520
can access those. Uh remaining

5933
04:05:21,520 --> 04:05:23,279
facilities will be public lands, the

5934
04:05:23,279 --> 04:05:25,600
Liberty Park maintenance yard, uh

5935
04:05:25,600 --> 04:05:28,160
Liberty Park youth and family and then

5936
04:05:28,160 --> 04:05:30,239
Fairmont and Aud Hall youth and family

5937
04:05:30,239 --> 04:05:31,600
facilities.

5938
04:05:31,600 --> 04:05:35,510
>> Thank you. That's helpful. I I guess um

5939
04:05:35,510 --> 04:05:35,520
» Thank you. That's helpful. I I guess um

5940
04:05:35,520 --> 04:05:39,439
I've just I've seen in our budgets um

5941
04:05:39,439 --> 04:05:41,439
and our budget amendments sometimes

5942
04:05:41,439 --> 04:05:46,000
we've been replacing um city vehicles

5943
04:05:46,000 --> 04:05:48,960
and materials that have been damaged

5944
04:05:48,960 --> 04:05:52,479
like due to like security issues and

5945
04:05:52,479 --> 04:05:55,760
knowing that we're investing in more of

5946
04:05:55,760 --> 04:05:58,880
those solutions. I I just again would

5947
04:05:58,880 --> 04:06:01,439
flag this one maybe for future

5948
04:06:01,439 --> 04:06:05,429
conversation.

5949
04:06:05,439 --> 04:06:07,840
» Thank you.

5950
04:06:07,840 --> 04:06:11,750
>> I would like to flag the number 28

5951
04:06:11,750 --> 04:06:11,760
» I would like to flag the number 28

5952
04:06:11,760 --> 04:06:13,279
traffic

5953
04:06:13,279 --> 04:06:15,120
circle

5954
04:06:15,120 --> 04:06:18,960
1700 south 500 west. Um

5955
04:06:18,960 --> 04:06:20,880
my question for the administration

5956
04:06:20,880 --> 04:06:23,760
related uh connected this with a request

5957
04:06:23,760 --> 04:06:27,439
from RD from CRA to fund the

5958
04:06:27,439 --> 04:06:29,920
improvements in that street and I wonder

5959
04:06:29,920 --> 04:06:33,680
if those improvements um could include

5960
04:06:33,680 --> 04:06:36,960
some pieces of this um since we're going

5961
04:06:36,960 --> 04:06:41,520
to rebuild that street. I wonder why not

5962
04:06:41,520 --> 04:06:45,359
just throw the circle in it. Um, so I

5963
04:06:45,359 --> 04:06:47,279
would love to see how those two connect

5964
04:06:47,279 --> 04:06:49,760
because we have a circle right now is in

5965
04:06:49,760 --> 04:06:52,960
paint and in cones, but it's a circle.

5966
04:06:52,960 --> 04:06:56,160
Um, so we just need a little curve and

5967
04:06:56,160 --> 04:06:58,239
um, maybe the dinosaur goes back to it

5968
04:06:58,239 --> 04:06:59,920
eventually, which was the intended

5969
04:06:59,920 --> 04:07:03,520
purpose for um, the dinosaur. U, but we

5970
04:07:03,520 --> 04:07:05,279
love some information about that at some

5971
04:07:05,279 --> 04:07:07,920
point. Oh, maybe now.

5972
04:07:07,920 --> 04:07:10,950
>> Amazing. Administration is on it today.

5973
04:07:10,950 --> 04:07:10,960
» Amazing. Administration is on it today.

5974
04:07:10,960 --> 04:07:12,560
Amazing.

5975
04:07:12,560 --> 04:07:15,279
always always on it.

5976
04:07:15,279 --> 04:07:16,710
>> Lyn Jacobs again, transportation

5977
04:07:16,710 --> 04:07:16,720
» Lyn Jacobs again, transportation

5978
04:07:16,720 --> 04:07:18,640
director. I brought up Becca Rolf. Oh,

5979
04:07:18,640 --> 04:07:20,800
got to push my button. Lynn Jacobs,

5980
04:07:20,800 --> 04:07:22,160
transportation director again. And I

5981
04:07:22,160 --> 04:07:24,239
brought up Becca Rolf. Becca is our

5982
04:07:24,239 --> 04:07:26,399
transportation lead on the 500 West

5983
04:07:26,399 --> 04:07:28,319
project. That project formerly known as

5984
04:07:28,319 --> 04:07:29,840
the Green Loop or the beautifification

5985
04:07:29,840 --> 04:07:31,680
project of Fifth West, which is included

5986
04:07:31,680 --> 04:07:33,439
in the complete street reconstruction.

5987
04:07:33,439 --> 04:07:33,840
So

5988
04:07:33,840 --> 04:07:36,630
>> yeah, I apologize. Which which

5989
04:07:36,630 --> 04:07:36,640
» yeah, I apologize. Which which

5990
04:07:36,640 --> 04:07:39,189
>> which project is this 20?

5991
04:07:39,189 --> 04:07:39,199
» which project is this 20?

5992
04:07:39,199 --> 04:07:40,630
>> Which roundabout is this? Where are we

5993
04:07:40,630 --> 04:07:40,640
» Which roundabout is this? Where are we

5994
04:07:40,640 --> 04:07:44,479
on? Traffic Circle 700 south 500 west

5995
04:07:44,479 --> 04:07:45,110
>> 28

5996
04:07:45,110 --> 04:07:45,120
» 28

5997
04:07:45,120 --> 04:07:45,590
>> 28

5998
04:07:45,590 --> 04:07:45,600
» 28

5999
04:07:45,600 --> 04:07:47,510
>> 28 Yes.

6000
04:07:47,510 --> 04:07:47,520
» 28 Yes.

6001
04:07:47,520 --> 04:07:51,110
>> Um so the design team is currently

6002
04:07:51,110 --> 04:07:51,120
» Um so the design team is currently

6003
04:07:51,120 --> 04:07:54,720
working on a conceptual design for 500

6004
04:07:54,720 --> 04:07:57,279
West and working intensively with the

6005
04:07:57,279 --> 04:07:59,760
businesses and the Granary District

6006
04:07:59,760 --> 04:08:03,600
Alliance in that area.

6007
04:08:03,600 --> 04:08:06,160
We've talked about the possibility of

6008
04:08:06,160 --> 04:08:07,840
incorporating

6009
04:08:07,840 --> 04:08:10,720
uh a traffic circle or a roundabout into

6010
04:08:10,720 --> 04:08:13,120
the design and we've also proposed some

6011
04:08:13,120 --> 04:08:15,439
other possible designs. And so we're

6012
04:08:15,439 --> 04:08:16,880
currently at the point where we're

6013
04:08:16,880 --> 04:08:19,920
getting that kind of feedback from the

6014
04:08:19,920 --> 04:08:23,040
community. So if it turns out that going

6015
04:08:23,040 --> 04:08:24,880
in the direction of a roundabout is

6016
04:08:24,880 --> 04:08:27,600
really what they want, we can certainly

6017
04:08:27,600 --> 04:08:29,120
pursue that as part of that

6018
04:08:29,120 --> 04:08:31,199
reconstruction project and as part of

6019
04:08:31,199 --> 04:08:34,720
that design. If there's other things

6020
04:08:34,720 --> 04:08:37,279
that could be done to that corridor to

6021
04:08:37,279 --> 04:08:40,239
improve the green space, um improve the

6022
04:08:40,239 --> 04:08:42,000
walkability,

6023
04:08:42,000 --> 04:08:45,760
um and make that intersection narrower

6024
04:08:45,760 --> 04:08:47,840
and safer,

6025
04:08:47,840 --> 04:08:49,520
um then we might end up going in a

6026
04:08:49,520 --> 04:08:51,680
slightly different direction. So whether

6027
04:08:51,680 --> 04:08:54,160
that's the specific solution for the

6028
04:08:54,160 --> 04:08:57,439
community's request is a little bit to

6029
04:08:57,439 --> 04:08:59,120
be determined and we're having that

6030
04:08:59,120 --> 04:09:01,199
discussion actively with the community.

6031
04:09:01,199 --> 04:09:04,150
>> I'm confused because this is the Granary

6032
04:09:04,150 --> 04:09:04,160
» I'm confused because this is the Granary

6033
04:09:04,160 --> 04:09:06,640
District Alliance requesting a

6034
04:09:06,640 --> 04:09:09,680
roundabout. So what what you just heard

6035
04:09:09,680 --> 04:09:11,840
was we are asking the community what

6036
04:09:11,840 --> 04:09:14,880
they want but yet we have here request

6037
04:09:14,880 --> 04:09:17,279
from them. This is in the context of the

6038
04:09:17,279 --> 04:09:20,560
greater reconstruction of propro

6039
04:09:20,560 --> 04:09:23,600
proposed reconstruction of three blocks

6040
04:09:23,600 --> 04:09:28,319
of fifth west. So that intersection

6041
04:09:28,319 --> 04:09:31,760
was put up with the constraints of the

6042
04:09:31,760 --> 04:09:33,920
rest of the street being what they are.

6043
04:09:33,920 --> 04:09:35,359
If you're changing the rest of the

6044
04:09:35,359 --> 04:09:37,199
street, you have an opportunity to

6045
04:09:37,199 --> 04:09:40,000
reinvision the intersection completely.

6046
04:09:40,000 --> 04:09:41,760
And that is a greater level of

6047
04:09:41,760 --> 04:09:44,239
transformation than what was originally

6048
04:09:44,239 --> 04:09:47,520
put up as a temporary solution and then

6049
04:09:47,520 --> 04:09:49,920
it was asked for as a permanent solution

6050
04:09:49,920 --> 04:09:50,720
here.

6051
04:09:50,720 --> 04:09:52,630
>> And this all has this all has to do with

6052
04:09:52,630 --> 04:09:52,640
» And this all has this all has to do with

6053
04:09:52,640 --> 04:09:54,319
the timing of the application as well.

6054
04:09:54,319 --> 04:09:56,080
So they would have applied for this last

6055
04:09:56,080 --> 04:09:59,199
fall. We were just barely starting our

6056
04:09:59,199 --> 04:10:00,720
conversation about what this project

6057
04:10:00,720 --> 04:10:03,359
could look like about that time. And so

6058
04:10:03,359 --> 04:10:05,680
as it has evolved, we don't know yet. It

6059
04:10:05,680 --> 04:10:06,800
could be a roundabout, could be

6060
04:10:06,800 --> 04:10:07,840
something else. That's something we're

6061
04:10:07,840 --> 04:10:09,600
going to work closely with them. But I

6062
04:10:09,600 --> 04:10:10,960
think to answer your direct question,

6063
04:10:10,960 --> 04:10:13,120
yes, this intersection would be

6064
04:10:13,120 --> 04:10:14,479
addressed with a complete street

6065
04:10:14,479 --> 04:10:16,160
reconstruction of that location.

6066
04:10:16,160 --> 04:10:17,670
>> Amazing. That's what I really wanted to

6067
04:10:17,670 --> 04:10:17,680
» Amazing. That's what I really wanted to

6068
04:10:17,680 --> 04:10:20,880
hear because we already sort of gave a,

6069
04:10:20,880 --> 04:10:24,880
you know, a go ahead on the CRA funding.

6070
04:10:24,880 --> 04:10:26,880
So to me, I wish we can accomplish

6071
04:10:26,880 --> 04:10:28,800
whatever it is. Maybe it's a different

6072
04:10:28,800 --> 04:10:31,600
thing, but something there. So we are in

6073
04:10:31,600 --> 04:10:32,319
the same

6074
04:10:32,319 --> 04:10:33,990
>> our commitment is to work with them

6075
04:10:33,990 --> 04:10:34,000
» our commitment is to work with them

6076
04:10:34,000 --> 04:10:35,840
closely to make sure that we get a great

6077
04:10:35,840 --> 04:10:37,600
solution at that location. I would hate

6078
04:10:37,600 --> 04:10:39,120
that we finish something and you know a

6079
04:10:39,120 --> 04:10:41,040
year later we're like breaking it

6080
04:10:41,040 --> 04:10:43,359
building it roundabout blows my mind.

6081
04:10:43,359 --> 04:10:43,910
>> Yeah.

6082
04:10:43,910 --> 04:10:43,920
» Yeah.

6083
04:10:43,920 --> 04:10:45,110
>> Great comment. Thank you.

6084
04:10:45,110 --> 04:10:45,120
» Great comment. Thank you.

6085
04:10:45,120 --> 04:10:47,189
>> Yeah. And there will be another round of

6086
04:10:47,189 --> 04:10:47,199
» Yeah. And there will be another round of

6087
04:10:47,199 --> 04:10:50,000
public engagement on this in particular

6088
04:10:50,000 --> 04:10:50,960
in August.

6089
04:10:50,960 --> 04:10:53,269
>> Amazing. I please let me know because I

6090
04:10:53,269 --> 04:10:53,279
» Amazing. I please let me know because I

6091
04:10:53,279 --> 04:10:54,880
work in the area. So

6092
04:10:54,880 --> 04:10:55,269
>> thank you.

6093
04:10:55,269 --> 04:10:55,279
» thank you.

6094
04:10:55,279 --> 04:10:56,630
>> Absolutely.

6095
04:10:56,630 --> 04:10:56,640
» Absolutely.

6096
04:10:56,640 --> 04:11:00,070
>> So we are a little beyond time.

6097
04:11:00,070 --> 04:11:00,080
» So we are a little beyond time.

6098
04:11:00,080 --> 04:11:02,950
>> Yes we are. And the our applicant is

6099
04:11:02,950 --> 04:11:02,960
» Yes we are. And the our applicant is

6100
04:11:02,960 --> 04:11:04,319
here right?

6101
04:11:04,319 --> 04:11:05,590
>> Yes.

6102
04:11:05,590 --> 04:11:05,600
» Yes.

6103
04:11:05,600 --> 04:11:09,349
>> Oh yes. Okay, then we will stop right

6104
04:11:09,349 --> 04:11:09,359
» Oh yes. Okay, then we will stop right

6105
04:11:09,359 --> 04:11:12,160
there. Thank you so much, Kate.

6106
04:11:12,160 --> 04:11:13,439
I appreciate everybody in the

6107
04:11:13,439 --> 04:11:16,080
administration too, uh, for their prompt

6108
04:11:16,080 --> 04:11:19,840
answers, clear direction. Um, I'm

6109
04:11:19,840 --> 04:11:20,880
amazed.

6110
04:11:20,880 --> 04:11:22,309
>> Can I just

6111
04:11:22,309 --> 04:11:22,319
» Can I just

6112
04:11:22,319 --> 04:11:24,229
>> just a reminder to council members that

6113
04:11:24,229 --> 04:11:24,239
» just a reminder to council members that

6114
04:11:24,239 --> 04:11:26,560
if you do have any other questions about

6115
04:11:26,560 --> 04:11:29,600
the CIP projects to please send those to

6116
04:11:29,600 --> 04:11:33,359
staff. We will not only be compiling any

6117
04:11:33,359 --> 04:11:35,279
information we can gather in response to

6118
04:11:35,279 --> 04:11:37,520
your questions with the administration's

6119
04:11:37,520 --> 04:11:40,160
great help, but also if you have

6120
04:11:40,160 --> 04:11:42,800
interests on projects that we didn't get

6121
04:11:42,800 --> 04:11:45,680
to yet, we can also compile that list so

6122
04:11:45,680 --> 04:11:47,840
that it's in the updated staff report

6123
04:11:47,840 --> 04:11:50,239
and council members are aware of all

6124
04:11:50,239 --> 04:11:52,080
council member interests and funding

6125
04:11:52,080 --> 04:11:53,920
changes.

6126
04:11:53,920 --> 04:11:55,030
>> Amazing. Thank you.

6127
04:11:55,030 --> 04:11:55,040
» Amazing. Thank you.

6128
04:11:55,040 --> 04:11:56,630
>> Thank you.

6129
04:11:56,630 --> 04:11:56,640
» Thank you.

6130
04:11:56,640 --> 04:11:59,439
All right, we're now moving on to item

6131
04:11:59,439 --> 04:12:01,760
nine, which is a board appointment to

6132
04:12:01,760 --> 04:12:03,359
what's effectually known as a peanut

6133
04:12:03,359 --> 04:12:05,680
board, parks, natural lands, urban

6134
04:12:05,680 --> 04:12:08,720
forestry, and trails. And we have an

6135
04:12:08,720 --> 04:12:11,520
advisory board. And Tyler Thunel is here

6136
04:12:11,520 --> 04:12:14,160
with us. So Tyler would love for you to

6137
04:12:14,160 --> 04:12:19,510
come up

6138
04:12:19,520 --> 04:12:23,520
and um just share with us uh about a

6139
04:12:23,520 --> 04:12:25,439
minute or so a little bit about your

6140
04:12:25,439 --> 04:12:27,680
background and uh why you're interested

6141
04:12:27,680 --> 04:12:29,680
in serving on the peanut board.

6142
04:12:29,680 --> 04:12:32,229
>> Yeah. Um thanks for the the time. It's

6143
04:12:32,229 --> 04:12:32,239
» Yeah. Um thanks for the the time. It's

6144
04:12:32,239 --> 04:12:36,399
been insightful to sit and listen. Um so

6145
04:12:36,399 --> 04:12:39,439
I've uh grown up here my whole life. I

6146
04:12:39,439 --> 04:12:42,640
was born and raised in the Avenues. Um

6147
04:12:42,640 --> 04:12:45,279
my wife and I own a retail store in the

6148
04:12:45,279 --> 04:12:47,120
avenues on Second Avenue in Q Street

6149
04:12:47,120 --> 04:12:50,080
called Mara. And um we've realized the

6150
04:12:50,080 --> 04:12:51,439
importance of community over the years

6151
04:12:51,439 --> 04:12:54,960
and how much we um are invested in uh

6152
04:12:54,960 --> 04:12:57,040
our backyard and and the people around

6153
04:12:57,040 --> 04:13:00,000
us. Um I'm lucky enough to work in the

6154
04:13:00,000 --> 04:13:01,760
cycling industry, which is my biggest

6155
04:13:01,760 --> 04:13:03,760
passion. Uh really anything with two

6156
04:13:03,760 --> 04:13:05,920
wheels, mountain bikes and road bikes

6157
04:13:05,920 --> 04:13:08,000
and gravel bikes and even dirt bikes

6158
04:13:08,000 --> 04:13:12,399
here and there. Um, so, uh, the

6159
04:13:12,399 --> 04:13:14,000
application came as a recommendation

6160
04:13:14,000 --> 04:13:16,720
from Austin Whitehead, who, um, was a

6161
04:13:16,720 --> 04:13:18,479
work colleague of mine and is a is a

6162
04:13:18,479 --> 04:13:21,760
close friend. And I think that, um, all

6163
04:13:21,760 --> 04:13:23,600
of this kind of came together somewhat

6164
04:13:23,600 --> 04:13:25,199
quickly, but it was super exciting. And

6165
04:13:25,199 --> 04:13:27,520
so, I think, uh, my potential to have

6166
04:13:27,520 --> 04:13:30,080
any sort of input on what might develop

6167
04:13:30,080 --> 04:13:31,920
as far as what's related to the peanut

6168
04:13:31,920 --> 04:13:34,319
board would be uh, kind of a highlight

6169
04:13:34,319 --> 04:13:35,439
of mine and something I'm really

6170
04:13:35,439 --> 04:13:37,840
invested in.

6171
04:13:37,840 --> 04:13:39,279
Thank you so much for that. Council

6172
04:13:39,279 --> 04:13:41,120
members, any questions? Council member

6173
04:13:41,120 --> 04:13:41,760
Dugan. No,

6174
04:13:41,760 --> 04:13:43,110
>> I just appreciate your work with the

6175
04:13:43,110 --> 04:13:43,120
» I just appreciate your work with the

6176
04:13:43,120 --> 04:13:45,680
peanut board because uh you know the the

6177
04:13:45,680 --> 04:13:48,080
trails, the bike paths and all that and

6178
04:13:48,080 --> 04:13:50,000
working with you know Sweet Streets and

6179
04:13:50,000 --> 04:13:53,680
others to make our streets safer is uh

6180
04:13:53,680 --> 04:13:56,080
so uh commendable and I appreciate the

6181
04:13:56,080 --> 04:13:59,199
the passion for it and uh keep it up.

6182
04:13:59,199 --> 04:13:59,920
Thanks.

6183
04:13:59,920 --> 04:14:01,990
>> Thank you.

6184
04:14:01,990 --> 04:14:02,000
» Thank you.

6185
04:14:02,000 --> 04:14:03,670
>> Thank you again for volunteering to

6186
04:14:03,670 --> 04:14:03,680
» Thank you again for volunteering to

6187
04:14:03,680 --> 04:14:06,000
serve on the um on this advisory board.

6188
04:14:06,000 --> 04:14:07,600
So, you'll be placed in our consent

6189
04:14:07,600 --> 04:14:10,239
agenda tonight um at our formal meeting,

6190
04:14:10,239 --> 04:14:12,399
which starts in about 45 minutes. You're

6191
04:14:12,399 --> 04:14:14,080
welcome to stick around for that formal

6192
04:14:14,080 --> 04:14:15,439
meeting, but you don't need to be

6193
04:14:15,439 --> 04:14:17,600
present in order for um you to be

6194
04:14:17,600 --> 04:14:18,800
approved to that board.

6195
04:14:18,800 --> 04:14:20,389
>> Okay. I do have a four-year-old. I have

6196
04:14:20,389 --> 04:14:20,399
» Okay. I do have a four-year-old. I have

6197
04:14:20,399 --> 04:14:24,080
to transfer from Fair and

6198
04:14:24,080 --> 04:14:25,670
>> thank you for your uh patience and

6199
04:14:25,670 --> 04:14:25,680
» thank you for your uh patience and

6200
04:14:25,680 --> 04:14:27,040
flexibility this afternoon.

6201
04:14:27,040 --> 04:14:28,790
>> Yeah. No, it was fun to listen in. So,

6202
04:14:28,790 --> 04:14:28,800
» Yeah. No, it was fun to listen in. So,

6203
04:14:28,800 --> 04:14:29,600
thanks for let me hear.

6204
04:14:29,600 --> 04:14:30,309
>> Thank you so much.

6205
04:14:30,309 --> 04:14:30,319
» Thank you so much.

6206
04:14:30,319 --> 04:14:30,870
>> Thank you.

6207
04:14:30,870 --> 04:14:30,880
» Thank you.

6208
04:14:30,880 --> 04:14:33,429
>> Um we're now moving on to standing

6209
04:14:33,429 --> 04:14:33,439
» Um we're now moving on to standing

6210
04:14:33,439 --> 04:14:35,680
items. Items number 10, report of the

6211
04:14:35,680 --> 04:14:37,279
chair and vice chair. I don't think

6212
04:14:37,279 --> 04:14:40,239
there's anything to report. Um and then

6213
04:14:40,239 --> 04:14:42,479
item 11, report and announcements from

6214
04:14:42,479 --> 04:14:44,960
the executive director. Any report and

6215
04:14:44,960 --> 04:14:46,560
announcements?

6216
04:14:46,560 --> 04:14:49,279
No report and announcements. All right.

6217
04:14:49,279 --> 04:14:51,279
Um with that, the council work session

6218
04:14:51,279 --> 04:15:02,276
is now adjourned. Thank you.

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