1 00:00:02,289 --> 00:00:08,939 OK, this is the um Smith County Elections Commission meeting for Wednesday, December 2 00:00:08,939 --> 00:00:15,979 8th, 2021. The time is now 3:01 p.m. The agenda was uh sent out and proper notice 3 00:00:15,979 --> 00:00:20,579 was given to all members of the, uh, the committee for a meeting to begin at 3 p.m. 4 00:00:20,579 --> 00:00:24,052 today. Here present with us is Miss uh Karen Phillips, our county clerk, Mr. David 5 00:00:24,052 --> 00:00:30,001 Stein, the Republican Party chair, Mr. Gary Barber, who is our, uh, tax assessor 6 00:00:30,001 --> 00:00:35,002 collector. Absent at present is Mr. Michael Tolbert, the Democratic Party chair. 7 00:00:35,599 --> 00:00:40,052 Um, Michelle Alcon is, is here as well as our elections administrator to give us 8 00:00:40,052 --> 00:00:45,159 an update. So we'll call this meeting to order. Item number one is received presentation 9 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,052 and report from the elections administrator regarding operations of the Smith County 10 00:00:48,052 --> 00:00:54,759 Elections Office. Ms. Alcon. Hi, good afternoon. Uh, so the county judge just asked 11 00:00:54,759 --> 00:00:58,799 me to give y'all a quick update of the things that have happened in our office the 12 00:00:58,799 --> 00:01:04,319 past, uh, past few months since we, since we last met. Um, so the first thing, uh, 13 00:01:04,004 --> 00:01:08,559 that y'all need to be aware of is that the remodeling of the Elections Administration 14 00:01:08,559 --> 00:01:15,199 building is complete. Uh, the work was finished in September. The hub now has a permanent 15 00:01:15,199 --> 00:01:21,489 wall, as you can see in the pictures here. Um, the, uh, there are secure doors for 16 00:01:21,489 --> 00:01:27,055 the storage area. The AV system has been completely updated. Um, the office side 17 00:01:27,055 --> 00:01:34,349 of the building, we have a secure place for storing the voted ballots, um, a new 18 00:01:34,349 --> 00:01:41,025 office for the EA. Uh, and we have windows in the mail ballot room and the tabulation 19 00:01:41,025 --> 00:01:48,199 room, so that it will, uh, facilitate transparency for people who are, who are watching 20 00:01:48,199 --> 00:01:51,489 what we're doing during an election. They can see that we're not hiding anything. 21 00:01:52,058 --> 00:01:58,026 Um, the second thing that I wanted to update y'all on was, uh, staffing. The hiring 22 00:01:58,026 --> 00:02:02,066 of staff in the elections administration is complete. We have 4 full-time staff and 23 00:02:02,066 --> 00:02:08,979 1 part-time staff member. Uh, we do bring in 2 part-time elections, uh, 24 00:02:09,139 --> 00:02:15,139 workers, staff members, I'm not sure exactly what you would consider them, uh, for 25 00:02:15,139 --> 00:02:19,046 elections prep, both before an election and after an election. They're almost always 26 00:02:19,046 --> 00:02:23,889 the same two people that I have listed here. Uh, and then we have one person that 27 00:02:23,889 --> 00:02:29,057 we bring in, uh, as a part-time voter registration clerk to help us make sure that 28 00:02:29,057 --> 00:02:33,085 the voter registration applications don't get backlogged during, uh, either right 29 00:02:33,085 --> 00:02:39,058 before or right after a large election. So, there's myself and Edna, who's been here 30 00:02:39,058 --> 00:02:46,074 for 13 years. Um, Grace Biggs and Erica are both new hires. Uh, Trey Fields is our 31 00:02:46,074 --> 00:02:52,019 permanent part-time assistant, and he has been here for several years as well. And 32 00:02:52,019 --> 00:02:57,069 then all three of the part-time people also work early voting as early voting workers. 33 00:02:59,889 --> 00:03:05,097 And then as a quick summary of the November 2021 election, we had a total number 34 00:03:05,097 --> 00:03:12,049 of voters check in 10,839. The total number of votes cast was 35 00:03:12,049 --> 00:03:19,169 10,836. Uh, occasionally we do have what's called a walkaway, and we know exactly 36 00:03:19,169 --> 00:03:23,369 where this happened. We had, uh, one walkaway at the first Christian Church on election 37 00:03:23,369 --> 00:03:28,013 day and two at noonday. So essentially a voter will come in and they'll check in. 38 00:03:28,529 --> 00:03:33,001 Um, and they get that ballot card and they make their selections, and then instead 39 00:03:33,001 --> 00:03:37,119 of putting it in the ballot box on their way out the door, they think it's a receipt, 40 00:03:37,013 --> 00:03:40,679 and they end up putting it in their purse or their pocket, and sometimes we just 41 00:03:40,679 --> 00:03:45,059 miss that. Uh, so that's something that we're definitely gonna, gonna work on, um, 42 00:03:45,139 --> 00:03:50,539 but 3 out of the amount of people that we had at those locations, it's not too bad. 43 00:03:50,619 --> 00:03:55,049 It's, there's room for improvement. Um, and I'm not sure if y'all are aware of some 44 00:03:55,049 --> 00:03:59,085 of the categories I have listed here. Uh, so I just wanted to give y'all a quick 45 00:03:59,085 --> 00:04:05,074 review of those. A limited ballot. A limited voter is a voter who is currently living 46 00:04:05,074 --> 00:04:10,539 in Smith County. This is their county of residence, but they have moved from a new 47 00:04:10,539 --> 00:04:15,539 county and have not changed their registration yet. So, say they are registered in 48 00:04:15,539 --> 00:04:20,459 Tarrant County or Dallas County, but they moved to Smith County two months ago. They 49 00:04:20,459 --> 00:04:25,066 are allowed to vote a limited ballot during early voting at the main early voting 50 00:04:25,066 --> 00:04:30,025 location. That allows them to vote over anything that overlaps between their previous 51 00:04:30,025 --> 00:04:34,609 county of residence where they're registered and their new county of residence. So 52 00:04:34,609 --> 00:04:40,649 we did have 11 of those. We had a confidentiality voter. There are multiple confidentiality 53 00:04:40,649 --> 00:04:44,809 programs that people can be part of, uh, so we did have one confidentiality voter 54 00:04:44,809 --> 00:04:52,073 for this election. Uh, a provisional ballot is a ballot that basically means we need 55 00:04:52,073 --> 00:04:59,309 to look into that voter before their ballot is cast. Either they are not registered, 56 00:04:59,399 --> 00:05:04,064 but they claim that they did register. So them voting a provisional ballot, it gives 57 00:05:04,064 --> 00:05:09,519 us a chance to research that and either confirm that they are correct and they did 58 00:05:09,519 --> 00:05:14,000 register, there was a computer error, and their vote will then be, would actually 59 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:19,339 be counted, or that no, they didn't do it correctly, so their vote is not counted. 60 00:05:19,072 --> 00:05:25,002 A provisional ballot also allows us to register that person if their ballot cannot 61 00:05:25,002 --> 00:05:31,589 be counted. So then they do become Smith County residents or registered voters. Did 62 00:05:31,589 --> 00:05:34,013 that make sense? You're a little confused. OK. 63 00:05:37,549 --> 00:05:43,739 A confidentiality program, I mean, the most, the, the easiest thing would be a, um, 64 00:05:44,799 --> 00:05:52,799 would be a A voter who has Um, who's in some 65 00:05:52,799 --> 00:05:58,679 type of protection program, um, abuse program, uh, there are multiple different varieties 66 00:05:58,679 --> 00:06:04,064 of those, so they could be part of the AG's confidentiality program. You have lesser 67 00:06:04,064 --> 00:06:10,092 extents of that when you see, um, privacy addresses for judges or police officers. 68 00:06:11,017 --> 00:06:15,088 That is a type of confidentiality program, but it's not on the same level. 69 00:06:17,809 --> 00:06:24,459 OK. Any other questions on the, the different categories? No? OK. 70 00:06:26,017 --> 00:06:31,044 Um, we also had, uh, 15 different training classes, just so y'all are aware for workers. 71 00:06:31,094 --> 00:06:38,094 Um, I did, uh, train 84 election workers for the November election. Some things 72 00:06:38,094 --> 00:06:44,359 that we want to take away from that election, we had, uh, Two locations that were 73 00:06:44,359 --> 00:06:51,066 huge on election day. So we've taken away that we need to, uh, prepare more, uh, 74 00:06:51,091 --> 00:06:57,092 personnel and equipment for both noonday locations and Lyndale locations. Uh, even 75 00:06:57,092 --> 00:07:02,359 if it's considered a small election. We're going to go ahead and have extra equipment 76 00:07:02,359 --> 00:07:07,097 because extra is always better than not enough. We also need to put more, uh, emphasis 77 00:07:07,097 --> 00:07:13,073 on the walkaways and make sure that we do always have a worker stationed near the 78 00:07:13,073 --> 00:07:19,089 door so we can try to catch those. A lot of the times, we put the ballot box closer 79 00:07:19,089 --> 00:07:23,089 to the door so someone can put their ballot in as they're walking out the door. So 80 00:07:23,089 --> 00:07:28,045 we can have some, a worker stationed in that general area telling people, hey, remember, 81 00:07:28,064 --> 00:07:32,073 put your ballot here. So we're just going to have to emphasize that again to make 82 00:07:32,073 --> 00:07:38,549 sure that people realize the importance of that. Uh, completing the paperwork accurately. 83 00:07:38,088 --> 00:07:44,579 We did have, uh, some paperwork that was not done completely or not done at all. 84 00:07:45,004 --> 00:07:48,092 So I'm going to make sure that we cover that in training in more depth than we did 85 00:07:48,092 --> 00:07:55,076 this last time. And then we have the election workers who agreed to work and came 86 00:07:55,076 --> 00:08:03,016 to training, and then didn't show up. So we just have to emphasize that when we have 87 00:08:03,016 --> 00:08:08,004 somebody who agrees to work during an election, that they actually come to the election 88 00:08:08,004 --> 00:08:14,679 to work, that sometimes that is a little bit difficult. Sometimes it's impossible 89 00:08:14,679 --> 00:08:18,279 because there's an emergency. We did have one of those individuals who ended up in 90 00:08:18,279 --> 00:08:23,006 the hospital. We didn't know that until about, I don't know, I think it was like 91 00:08:23,006 --> 00:08:29,064 2 o'clock on election day, but they, they had a reason for not being there. Uh, and 92 00:08:29,064 --> 00:08:33,000 they were a little preoccupied and couldn't call us and tell us, hey, I can't make 93 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:38,044 it. So, there are times that, that is understandable, but there are also times when 94 00:08:38,044 --> 00:08:42,349 it's just not, when they just refuse to show up and we can't contact them at all. 95 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:47,000 Um, and those are the people that we need to make note of and potentially not use 96 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:47,028 again. 97 00:08:49,619 --> 00:08:51,095 And then, oh, I hit the wrong button. Sorry. 98 00:08:53,099 --> 00:08:59,299 And we have upcoming dates for 2022. So we do have, uh, these are the important dates, 99 00:08:59,429 --> 00:09:04,669 the major dates for the 2022 year. We do have mass mailout starting, uh, January 100 00:09:04,669 --> 00:09:12,021 1st. So that first week in January, we'll start mailing out about 148,000 voter registration 101 00:09:12,021 --> 00:09:18,009 certificates. The primary election. The May general election. The primary runoff 102 00:09:18,009 --> 00:09:23,026 in the gubernatorial election are all happening this year. Uh, just as an aside, 103 00:09:23,299 --> 00:09:28,058 for those of you who may not know, the May general election will have two constitutional 104 00:09:28,058 --> 00:09:35,409 amendments on the ballot. One of the special sessions passed 2 special or 2 constitutional 105 00:09:35,409 --> 00:09:40,013 amendments, but it was passed the cutoff date to put them on the November election. 106 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,078 So they decided that the May election would have those 2 constitutional amendments. 107 00:09:45,719 --> 00:09:52,179 So, it will be a countywide election, not just a city and school election. Has there 108 00:09:52,179 --> 00:09:52,051 ever 109 00:09:55,059 --> 00:09:56,869 Party has no runoff. 110 00:09:59,082 --> 00:10:06,025 And is that typical? I don't think it's typical. It, it varies by, uh, by county. 111 00:10:06,057 --> 00:10:13,008 I have had in my previous county, I had a runoff where one party did have a runoff 112 00:10:13,008 --> 00:10:18,004 and the other didn't, but be, but that was because the state didn't have anything 113 00:10:18,004 --> 00:10:23,609 and then the, the locals didn't have anything either. So it has to be. You know, 114 00:10:23,065 --> 00:10:25,089 it has to end up being perfectly aligned. 115 00:10:27,159 --> 00:10:28,063 But yes, it has happened. 116 00:10:30,929 --> 00:10:30,095 The same. 117 00:10:36,349 --> 00:10:42,059 Well, we, what we did was we, we kept the staff the same. We were on a much smaller 118 00:10:42,059 --> 00:10:47,069 scale, so we had a lot fewer choices to work with, um, and we didn't have an issue 119 00:10:47,069 --> 00:10:54,219 with, with using the same workers, uh, but it's, if I'm, if I'm understanding correctly, 120 00:10:54,229 --> 00:11:02,169 the. If it is just a Republican runoff, the staff there can be all Republican. However, 121 00:11:02,219 --> 00:11:07,619 if we do decide to do a joint primary, that would mean a joint runoff too. So we 122 00:11:07,619 --> 00:11:10,094 would need to look into the legalities and make sure that we can do that if that's 123 00:11:10,094 --> 00:11:13,909 the case. Yeah. 124 00:11:16,469 --> 00:11:18,169 All right. Questions. Go ahead. 125 00:11:21,609 --> 00:11:26,077 So you have, uh, this information about future elections. Is it already on our Smith 126 00:11:26,077 --> 00:11:33,028 County website under your department? This, this one here, it, uh, the primary is 127 00:11:33,028 --> 00:11:37,609 on the website at the moment, and I can update the rest of it just so that the dates 128 00:11:37,609 --> 00:11:39,739 are all listed there. Yes, I can do that. 129 00:11:41,799 --> 00:11:46,005 May want to just To decide because they're so different. 130 00:11:50,369 --> 00:11:56,014 Oh, that's true. Yes, precinct chairs for the will be, will be on the, uh, runoff 131 00:11:56,014 --> 00:12:00,007 election. So there's, it's very unlikely that we will just have a single party during 132 00:12:00,007 --> 00:12:07,919 the runoff, but yeah. Yeah, it's a good addition and we ought to push that out by 133 00:12:07,919 --> 00:12:13,559 email to both sides of the party too, that, that calendar. Yeah, so everybody's aware 134 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,096 of that because I'm sure that some of them still missed it. 135 00:12:17,929 --> 00:12:19,051 Any other questions for Ms. Alcon? 136 00:12:21,052 --> 00:12:26,479 All right. Uh, we promised you guys that, uh, we would, uh, come back after every 137 00:12:26,479 --> 00:12:30,009 election and have an update from the elections administrator and then, uh, give you 138 00:12:30,009 --> 00:12:34,007 an opportunity which is item number 2 to go into executive session and talk about, 139 00:12:34,057 --> 00:12:38,609 uh, how she's doing and how she's performing, so we're gonna do that at this point 140 00:12:38,609 --> 00:12:44,045 unless there's any more questions. Uh, something just popped in. Uh, so the incorrect 141 00:12:44,045 --> 00:12:47,789 paperwork that you mentioned, what, what type of paperwork are you talking about? 142 00:12:47,929 --> 00:12:52,419 It's just a lot of the simple things like um there's something called a spoiled ballot. 143 00:12:52,076 --> 00:12:59,489 So when a voter makes an error on a ballot, oh, I chose, uh, proposition A for instead 144 00:12:59,489 --> 00:13:03,028 of against, I made a mistake there. How do I correct this? As long as they haven't 145 00:13:03,028 --> 00:13:09,045 put that ballot in a ballot box, we can take that ballot and spoil it, so they won't 146 00:13:09,045 --> 00:13:14,849 use that one, and we can reissue that card to them. Um, and then that card itself 147 00:13:14,849 --> 00:13:21,044 we're supposed to log and sign, and a lot of them, they. They handled the card correctly, 148 00:13:21,609 --> 00:13:26,065 but they didn't fill out the form, so simple things like that that we really need 149 00:13:26,065 --> 00:13:32,058 to make sure that our paperwork is all accurate. Nothing that affects the legitimacy 150 00:13:32,058 --> 00:13:38,859 of the election. It's it's the small details that help us go back and 151 00:13:39,083 --> 00:13:46,026 Assist in an audit to make it simpler if there was one. Good question. All right, 152 00:13:46,429 --> 00:13:50,309 thanks, Ms. Alcon. We appreciate it. All in all, it was a fantastic election. We 153 00:13:50,309 --> 00:13:55,027 appreciate that. Uh, that's gonna take us into item number 2. We're gonna, uh, recess 154 00:13:55,027 --> 00:14:00,075 executives, uh, recess open session, go into executive session and discuss, receive 155 00:14:00,075 --> 00:14:04,979 consultation, seek legal advice regarding the commission's duties regarding the appointment, 156 00:14:05,015 --> 00:14:09,002 employment, and duties of the Smith County Elections Administrator. So, we're gonna 157 00:14:09,002 --> 00:14:15,058 do that under Texas Government Code sections 551.071 and 0.074. The time is now. 158 00:14:16,849 --> 00:14:22,409 3:15, we stand in recess. We'll come back and adjourn on the backside of this. Let's 159 00:14:22,409 --> 00:14:23,049 clear the courtroom. 160 00:14:27,057 --> 00:14:27,084 OK. 161 00:14:32,002 --> 00:14:39,099 The time presently is 3:18, 3:23 p.m. We adjourned executive session at like 162 00:14:39,479 --> 00:14:45,799 3:20 p.m. We are adjourned. No further business before this, uh, body, so we will 163 00:14:45,799 --> 00:14:46,084 see you in about six months. 164 00:14:49,349 --> 00:14:50,025 As you want to do