[0:02] Public notice is given that the Smithfield City Council will meet in a [0:07] regularly scheduled meeting at 96 South Maine, Smithfield, Utah on Wednesday, [0:12] September 9th, 2026. Meeting will begin at 6 PM. Like to welcome everybody here [0:18] tonight and uh uh let you know that the mayor is not able to be with us tonight. [0:24] So I will be conducting the meeting and uh I will also be uh starting off with [0:31] the pledge of allegiance and with a prayer. So if you would all please stand [0:38] and follow with the pledge of allegiance. [0:42] I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the [0:49] republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and [0:56] justice for all. [1:05] » Our dear father in heaven, we are grateful for the opportunity we have to [1:09] meet together tonight as a community, as a city council. We're grateful for this [1:15] beautiful country that we live in. We're grateful for this beautiful state that [1:18] we live in. And we're grateful for this beautiful city that we live in. We're [1:23] grateful for the blessings that we have here, for the moisture that we have been [1:26] able to receive. And we're grateful for all of the blessings which we enjoy on a [1:32] daily basis here. And we pray that that will bless us this night. That we may be [1:36] able to discuss the affairs of the city. That we may be able to make conscious [1:41] and wise decisions. That we may be able to have uh good discourse one with [1:47] another. that we may be able to be productive and that we may be able to be [1:50] positive and that we may be blessed with a continuation of of peace and freedom [1:58] here in Utah and in the United States that we may have thy continuing watchful [2:04] eye over us. And we ask and say these things in the name of thy son Jesus [2:08] Christ. Amen. >> Amen. [2:13] » Well, thank you. Okay. Um, we'll go ahead and move to the first order of [2:17] business today, which is the approval of the city council meeting minutes from [2:21] August 12th, 2026. I would entertain a motion. [2:26] » I'll make a motion to approve council meeting minutes from August 12th, 2026. [2:30] » Okay. Motion has been made. I'll second it. Seconded by Chris. Uh, how do we [2:38] vote? Jay, >> yes. [2:40] » John, >> yes. [2:42] » Chris, >> yes. Jim. [2:44] » Yes. >> And I vote yes. Also [2:47] is unanimous. This time would like to open the meeting [2:52] for public comment on items that are not included on tonight's agenda. [2:58] Time is now yours. If you would uh if you wish to comment, come up to the [3:02] microphone. Please state your name, use the microphone, and uh we'll proceed. [3:15] Hi, I'm Tom Hilton of Smithfield residence live near Chris. Um, I just [3:23] wanted to say thanks to the city council. Now, I'm going to thank you for [3:26] something. I'm not entirely sure how much you had to do with it, but I want [3:30] to thank you anyway because I did talk to Chris about it and he and I had some [3:34] back and forth. Um, I was really really worried about the pedestrian traffic uh [3:41] crossing Highway 91 to go to the Summit Elementary School and then come home [3:46] from it every day. And I went as far as to suggest to Chris that we might want [3:50] to pursue at the state the construction of an underpass, a pedestrian underpass [3:54] there. You know, he was like, "Well, I don't know. That's kind of a hard [3:57] thing." But but one way or another, a really, really good thing happened. And [4:02] I kind of think I ought to give at least you, if not everybody, credit for it. [4:08] Um, the the the school attendance boundaries have been realigned so that [4:12] kids don't have to cross Highway 91 to go to Summon Elementary School. And I [4:17] can't tell you how relieved I am and I really, really appreciate it. So, thanks [4:21] to you, thanks to whoever else was involved. Now, I'm going to add, you [4:26] know, I didn't just come to say thank you, right? I'm gonna add that the [4:30] problem hasn't gone away. Um, we've still we've got the the [4:34] Central Park on the west side of Highway 91. We've got Forester Acres Park. We [4:40] got Smithfield Temple coming on. And who knows what else will come out. You know, [4:44] development is proceeding a pace over there. Um, so I think uh we really [4:49] really need to look at some way to get pedestrians back and forth across [4:53] Highway 91 safely. Um, that idea of of of you know the crosswalk of the traffic [4:59] light, that all helps. But if you've been there and watched how cars go [5:03] through there, you know that's not safe. Somebody's going to get killed there. [5:07] And I would really rather solve the problem before a fatality occurs. [5:13] So there you go. You want to put that on the next agenda? [5:18] » Thank you very much, Tom. >> Thanks. Thanks, Tom. [5:21] » I should have stated that we open public comment at 603. So, [5:35] Caroli Stokes. Um, I have a request. City Council seems to fall under the [5:42] week of homecoming week at Sky View and Wednesday's always their parade. [5:49] And I was wondering in the future because I think it's kind of sad that [5:54] this is being held the same time the parade is and if in the future if if the [6:01] council is, you know, the same week as the home the homecoming week, could they [6:07] change it to another week in the month? And I just wanted to make that [6:13] suggestion request that um I just think it's sad that that if people want to [6:19] come here and then want to go to that that it makes it hard that in the future [6:24] you just you know ch change it to another Wednesday [6:29] anyway or tell Sky View to change I don't know [6:33] tell Sky View to change it to another Wednesday but that was my that was my [6:38] request. Thanks. Thank you Caroline. >> Thanks. [6:52] Any other desired public comment? Okay. If not, we will close public [6:58] comment at 6:07 p.m. Move on to agenda item number three. presentation and [7:06] discussion with representatives from the Utah Coalition of Cities and Councils [7:11] UC3. I understand we have Sarah Davenport Smith here with us. So, [7:17] » we allotted for a 10 to 15 minute window there. So, thank you very much, Sarah. [7:22] » Time is yours. >> Right. Thank you so much for allowing me [7:26] to come up and speak to you tonight about the Utah Coalition of Cities and [7:30] Counties or UC3 as we affectionately like to call it. Um, should I tell you, [7:35] Justin, to Okay, there we go. All right. Um, today during our [7:42] legislative sessions, it's not just about the bills that are being passed. [7:46] It's about what these bills are doing collectively to each one of our local [7:51] governments authority. As you guys have probably noticed that over the past [7:57] several years, however long you have been city council members, you've [8:00] probably seen bills pass and requirements come down, unfunded [8:05] mandates, all that fun stuff. And many times you're seeing, oh well, I guess we [8:11] don't get to make this decision exactly the way that we used to anymore. So [8:18] that's one of the reasons why U3 UC3 exists. [8:22] and we just help to help you guys recognize those shifts that are coming [8:27] early instead of after the fact. That's one of the main things that we that we [8:32] offer. Go ahead. Next. So, our team um of [8:39] course I am I'm the founder managing director and just so you know I have [8:44] eight years of city council experience under my belt and um very very proud of [8:50] that. So, I know exactly what you guys go through here on the daily and I thank [8:56] you for each one of your service. It's a lot to do and yet it's a it's a [9:00] wonderful job. I'm so glad I was able to do it as I'm sure you guys are too. [9:07] Oops, sorry. Didn't want to do that. Bernardet Brockman is um Oh, sorry. Uh [9:12] could you go back one? Thanks. Uh Bernardet Brockman, she is our our head [9:17] trainer. Uh she is uh mostly Utah native, but she has served our Utah [9:22] National Guard for about 30 years. And so she has ample leadership experience [9:28] and also policy development experience, too. And her her presentation and [9:33] training skills are just amazing. Uh Bill Lee um he is our head board adviser [9:40] and um he has a lot of different experience business. Um some of you [9:44] might know him from uh the Utah County Council. um he was a commissioner there [9:50] for a few years and so he he brings that perspective to help make sure that we [9:55] are um encompassing all the things that counties will deal with as well. Uh and [10:00] then Heather Eder who uh has probably interfaced with uh your staff. I know [10:05] she did with Justin a little bit. And she is um a a coach actually by trade, [10:11] but she loves people and her communication skills are beyond uh [10:17] beyond what I can say. And so she just helps make sure everybody is well taken [10:21] care of. Okay. Next. So what do we do? [10:26] Local authority and governance analysis. That is a different one. So everybody [10:33] has lobbyists. Most people have lobbyists. [10:36] Most people belong to associations. The Utah League of Cities and Towns, [10:41] fabulous associations. So is the Utah Association of Counties. [10:46] We are different in the fact that we bring something additional to the table, [10:50] an added tool that they don't have. And it's something that we really do feel [10:56] that you need. And I know as a former city council person, it was very helpful [11:02] um realizing this tool and creating it for cities and counties here in Utah. [11:08] But again, we analyze not just what the bill is going to to do structurally, but [11:15] what it does to your authority, to your finances, to your operations, to legal [11:20] positions. [11:24] Again, lobbyists can go ahead and advocate for positions, but first of [11:27] all, our local leaders need to know which position they should have. And [11:33] especially according to that constitutional analysis side, it's very [11:37] important because that is the one oath that we all swear to uphold our Utah [11:43] constitution and our federal constitutions. And actually, they are [11:47] fabulous tools for analyzing policy. And if you want to keep local authority, [11:53] your constitution is one of the best tools to help you do that. And it's a [11:58] very strong foundation to legally speaking. [12:02] Okay. Next. So, let's get into the details of what [12:08] each of those um areas do, what those services are. [12:13] The local authority and governance analysis. Again, this is where where I [12:18] talked about those authority shifts, recognizing where those authority shifts [12:21] are going to happen. We examine due process, property rights, [12:27] delegation, other safeguards, identify the costs that are coming up, unfunded [12:32] mandates, revenue implications. How many know that when we utilize tools like tax [12:38] increment financing that shifts the revenue streams a bit? [12:43] And so we also help to make sure what new duties you're going to have um or [12:49] maybe what you won't have, but also the procedures, the deadlines that are going [12:54] to be proposed. Um and then just try to help you come up with a um like a [13:00] checklist or even just a a navigation sheet of of how you can go ahead and [13:06] implement these things within the city. Next, [13:13] of course, the the advocacy side. Again, we were able to do this um around [13:22] also individual communities priorities um because we can run those special [13:30] analyses for you um on certain bills because there are many times where we [13:35] have a bill that is passed statewide and it may [13:40] benefit Salt Lake City but maybe not so much Smithfield or maybe not so much [13:45] Saratoga Springs where I'm from. So when when that happens, because it does and [13:52] it will continue to happen, when that happens, we can help you see, okay, [13:57] here's actually what it's going to do for Smithfield and here's the positions [14:02] that we recommend you guys take on this action. So again, just trying to help [14:07] you get out in front of that. And also if there are recommended changes, we are [14:13] ready and able to make those recommended changes and amendments to those bills. [14:19] Okay. Next. Yep. Implementation decision [14:24] support. Again, it's not just about what the new legislation is going to make you [14:28] do, but we're going to help you be prepared ahead of time because even when [14:34] those decisions are made at the state level, they come down to the city and [14:39] the county and the town level and then your citizens are saying, "Why are you [14:43] making us do this or why did this change?" And you get to say a lot, [14:48] "Well, this was actually a bill that was passed and we're simply responding to [14:52] it." Well, being able to again have this understanding ahead of time, you guys [14:58] can prepare already what you're going to get people prepared for within your [15:04] city. And then of course we also help you [15:09] identify where those local options and discretion still exist because there are [15:14] several times where a lot of cities have given up certain decision-making [15:21] authority when they didn't have to. It was just an assumption that was made. [15:27] And so again, this is one of the things that we help you guys do. Okay. Next, [15:34] education and training. We've done uh several webinars and um [15:41] I'll I'll have you guys look at the packets in a little bit, but um we [15:44] create a lot of different materials that uh are very helpful for people um like [15:51] this one in particular. Um navigating regional authority districts, [15:57] executive frameworks, and local government authority. a practical con a [16:01] practical constitutional playbook for Utah local leaders. So, this is [16:05] something we put out right after the session. Really took in what um Senate [16:10] Bill 284 did, which was that the big land use bill that changed quite a lot. [16:15] Um now a lot of our land use decisions are going to be dependent upon water, [16:20] which you know that's guess makes sense. We're in a desert. [16:25] All right. So, we do a lot of different uh trainings. Um, but mainly what we [16:30] want to do is to equip you guys to be able to ask better questions when things [16:35] come down the pike. Be able to ask those questions that really help to defend [16:41] that local authority position for yourselves and your citizens. [16:47] Okay. Next. [16:51] So, you you have two basic models of representation. And there is your very [16:55] traditional path which um we all are very very used to. You simply um go down [17:03] the the traditional advocacy route. You have the bill the summary position and [17:07] you do your thing at the capital and then you deal with compliance. [17:12] Our path uh we look at bills and of course a lot of the bills that are [17:16] coming up. So there's the interim session happening right now. some bills [17:21] are being created and talked about and um so we look at the bill the [17:26] constitutions we bring in case law which a lot of people have asked there's a lot [17:31] of different views about the constitution what is your view on it [17:34] well we use the case law to determine what that particular view is on our [17:39] constitutions and then we look at the authority shift and that cumulative [17:45] impact and when I say cumulative impact [17:50] It's not just when you look at one single bill because most of the time [17:54] when you have um like a report come from the League of Cities and Towns, you'll [17:59] see a list of the bills they support, those they don't, ones that they're [18:03] neutral on, and then afterwards you'll kind of get a report. This is what it [18:07] is, this is what it's going to do. But what we have done instead is say okay if [18:13] we have this group of bills that are being passed and a lot of them have to [18:17] do with for example housing housing policy which includes transportation and [18:22] water right and so you bring those all together and say what is happening [18:28] cumulatively with all of these what is what is going to happen at the local [18:33] level that's where we found this authority shift taking place and a lot [18:39] more decision-making authority is being shifted to the state and away from our [18:44] local governments. And so that's one of the things that we're helping everybody [18:49] to become aware of and you know you can do something about it. [18:56] Okay. Next, for those of you who are visual, this is [19:02] visual. This is our methodology. Again, um we start with our constitutions and [19:09] case law and then we start bringing in the the local government authority test. [19:15] You know, what is this what is this proposed policy going to do to [19:20] decision-making authority? Is it getting closer to the people or is it getting [19:26] further away from the people? Simple question, good principle, and it's a [19:30] great way to analyze what a policy actually does. And then of course [19:34] there's the practical application. You know what what is this actually going to [19:39] take to implement uh fiscally what changes are going to happen? Um again we [19:47] think that having this methodology in your toolbox results in clearer [19:51] decisions, stronger communities and better governance for you guys. [19:57] Next. Okay. So, two ways to engage with UC3. [20:04] We offer a citizen membership and it's totally free. We do our public [20:08] newsletters, which there is an example of the newsletter in your guys's packets [20:12] that I left for you. Um, there are some select public webinars that we just [20:17] offer to everybody, and then any discounted training rates, and it's, you [20:21] know, that's for anybody, citizens or leaders who are just interested in [20:24] following this kind of constitutional governance [20:29] um idea. at the municipal membership level. Again, there's more of that that [20:35] full advocacy uh package that we do offer, but more importantly, it's that [20:41] detailed analysis. It's helping you to come up with a game plan of okay, this [20:46] is what it's going to look like when this passes or now that it's passed, now [20:50] this is what we have to do. Um we also have um attorney access uh as [20:59] well. We contract uh with a particular firm who is very familiar with um local [21:06] governments and again more exclusive trainings, webinars, conferences that we [21:12] offer. So um you know one membership will keep you informed and the other one [21:18] gives you a seat at the table. [21:23] Next. So again, at the end of the day, it's [21:28] not just a it's not just a service decision. It's more of a question of [21:33] what kind of guidance are you looking for? Is is this a kind of tool u that [21:39] you're needing to add to your toolbox? If you want help understanding not only [21:44] what legislation is going to require you to do, but also how your authority is [21:50] going to change, then that's where we come in. [21:54] Okay. Next, [21:58] the 2025 and 2026 sessions really showed us something important. Um, it's not [22:04] just about the policies that are being passed, but it's about who are going to [22:08] be making the decisions behind those policies. Now, [22:13] of course, we can do what traditional advocacy firms do, but it's more about [22:18] what UC3 adds to this picture. It's different. And again, we exist to help [22:25] keep decision-making authority as close to local governments as possible. [22:32] And that's it. And if you want to take out your your packets, I've given you [22:37] guys um several pieces of information. Didn't want to overwhelm you, but I [22:42] wanted to show you a little bit about what we what we do offer. Um there's a [22:50] let's see on the left side you'll see um this first one it's a [22:56] really nice breakdown of why why us what do we add what's different um there's [23:03] some other basic information on uh the left side about who we are and what we [23:09] do and then on the right side I've made sure that you guys have one of our um [23:16] more recent newsletters that was from earlier um in the spring. I think we did [23:21] it in May and that was in response to the AI data center issue which still [23:27] seems to be a pretty hot topic around here and elsewhere. And um and then also [23:33] our legislative wrap-up report from the session. And so you'll see I go into a [23:37] little bit more detail about what the cumulative effect is and all that good [23:41] stuff. So um do you have any questions? I know we're out of time. [23:50] » I just like the fact that you guys are taking the Constitution [23:54] um you know as as a part of the the lens through how we're looking at this. [24:00] » Um I think that's something that's easy to forget or get lost especially when [24:05] there's so many bills that that come through. [24:08] » Yeah, it is. And like I said, it's a really practical tool. Um, I've been [24:15] super super super excited about using it and I think a lot of people especially [24:20] our legislators are recognizing and they really appreciate the fact that we bring [24:25] this up like saying well we actually did a constitutional analysis and it is [24:29] something they used to do at the capital on all the bills um but they've they've [24:34] chosen not to do that. So anyways again it's uh it's another service that we [24:38] also provide for them as well. we make sure they get a a weekly um [24:45] impact report essentially on the key bills that we're following and um how [24:50] those bills are stacking up and the even the amendments that we recommend in [24:54] order to bring those back into compliance. So, [24:59] » so having said that, what is your perception over the last few years of [25:04] how these in general these bills look? Do they do they tend to follow the [25:10] constitution or are they wildly in different directions because people want [25:16] them to go those directions? >> Well, actually you would be happy to [25:21] know that there have been over the past few sessions there have been only only a [25:26] handful that have been like absolutely red line no we cannot do this. Most of [25:32] them are yellow and I like to use stoplight colors. So, you know, green [25:37] is, you know, thumbs up. Yellow is caution, which always means amendment. [25:40] Most of the bills reside in that yellow area where some of it's okay, but [25:47] there's some of it that needs to be changed. And and you know what? That's [25:52] fine because that's what the session is all about. Unfortunately, we only have [25:55] 45 days to do it. So, it's really fast. [26:02] Are your thoughts and concerns taken into consideration during the session [26:05] when you approach them with your recommendations? Do they consider [26:09] » some of them doations? Yes. Yes. Actually, there have been I've been very [26:14] happy to note that there have been several that um even one of the bills [26:18] that just got stopped because I said this is not going to work and I showed [26:22] you why. And um that was that was very good to note. Um some of the things that [26:30] have been a little uh more challenging have been a lot of the housing bills um [26:35] that we have been commenting on and analyzing [26:39] because uh there's such a a big push to have a certain um amount of housing go [26:45] in statewide as quickly as possible. And we also have the Olympics coming up too. [26:51] And so there's a lot of push to get certain things especially transit [26:54] oriented development in. And so when you when you have that coming up, you you [27:00] get a a little bit of a a push back when it comes to trying to keep, you know, [27:06] more of the decisions like that local. But we stand very firmly on our article [27:12] 11 of our constitution where our cities are granted. Even though you're still a [27:18] general government city, you're still granted special authority when it comes [27:22] to your communities, when it comes to planning for communities and such. So, [27:26] it's different than counties. >> Great. [27:31] » One other quick question. Have you seen any um yellow u in regards to special [27:39] authority districts, things like that? >> Yes. [27:44] » Yes. Um in fact well we weren't here when um some of the authority districts [27:51] quite a few of them went in but as more have gone in um we have we've done a lot [27:58] of analysis on it and made a lot of suggestions um for some roll backs with [28:05] that and I I do think you know I mean AI data centers whatever you think about [28:10] them the good news is is it's brought that idea actually to the top the idea [28:16] of what are these authority districts? What's behind them? Is it right that [28:21] they should have this kind of authority and um you know and there are now [28:26] lawsuits that are happening right now just because of that. So it is good that [28:30] the question is being asked because um it's according to our analysis it's very [28:36] clear in the constitution these should not have happened uh the way they [28:40] happened in the first place. And in fact, if you want to read about that, it [28:44] is in that newsletter. So there's more information. [28:49] » Kind of interested in your funding model or your organization. Uh where your [28:54] revenue comes from? Oh yeah. Where your expenses are going? Are you taxpayer [28:58] funded in any way or is this strictly through dues with cities or uh are any [29:03] of your expenses? Certainly there's personnel expenses. Uh are are you [29:09] supporting any candidates financially? Um in any ways. I'm just curious about [29:13] kind of your approach to funding and running your organization. [29:18] » Sure. Um so in your packets there is a nice flyer uh that has the information [29:24] about how um how the due structure works. So that is the primary method of [29:30] how we're funded is from dues from clients uh from members. And uh no, we [29:37] don't have a we don't have a pack. Um so we're we're not uh invested in elections [29:43] or anything like that. And we're not publicly funded either. So this is this [29:48] is private, but um yeah, it well membership dues I guess those those are [29:55] public. So, so yes, uh there is that, but um it's it's more of just a a [30:01] membership association to so you guys know that this is your funds and so you [30:08] have the biggest say of what happens in this association. We wanted to keep it [30:13] clean that way. >> Very good. Thank you. [30:18] » Any other questions, >> Sarah? Thank you so much for for coming. [30:24] wonderful presentation and appreciate the packets and [30:27] » yeah, >> thank you so much. [30:28] » Yes, >> we definitely appreciate your pro your [30:31] approach to this. It's >> I shouldn't say that it's unique, but it [30:35] is. I mean, that should be something that we should be doing already in my [30:39] opinion, but yeah. >> Yeah. Well, I'm happy to help you guys. [30:43] Feel free to reach out anytime. >> Thank you. Keep up the good work. [30:50] Okay, we'll proceed on to item number four, discussion and possible vote on [30:56] ordinance 2026-13, an ordinance amending the Smithfield [31:00] City Municipal Code Title 17, zoning regulations, chapter 17.92, Accessory [31:07] Dwelling Unit, section 1792.101, purpose and chapter 17.92.2 [31:15] conditions 17.92.30 30 application procedures and chapter 17.120 [31:23] use matrix table section 17121.010 10 using [31:30] excuse me use all allowance matrix and with that we'll turn the time over to [31:36] Brian. Thanks. So we're doing two major things [31:41] here. One changing the code and one is altering the use allowance matrix. [31:51] So last year's session, the state session made some minor changes. I'd say [31:59] minor based on what we were doing, but major compared to what other cities and [32:03] states or cities were doing for detached uh dwelling units. So there are a few [32:11] things that we made some changes to and I'll go through those right now. So the [32:15] first thing is they now allow certificate of occupancy for any new [32:22] detached dwelling unit. We put the text in there. In all [32:28] technicality, the county takes care of our building inspections and they [32:33] already issue a CFO for any new dwelling unit. [32:40] Uh the next two changes are basically new links to the state code. What [32:47] happened is they used to have the entire portion of [32:52] LDMA or the land use portion of the state code in 109. [33:00] They've revamped the whole thing completely and moved it to 1021. And so [33:06] we've had to just update the links we already had and therefore internal and [33:12] detached just to make it match the state code where the big move took place. [33:21] Okay. [33:25] All right. We did add in that same section, we added a sentence [33:30] that said that we wanted to specify that internal [33:35] um accessory dwelling units were allowed in the MPC. We know that the MPC has a [33:42] large array of sizes of lots and in even in most of those they tend [33:51] to be smaller, some bigger than others, but detached [33:57] dwelling units are very very difficult. So they're not not allowed. [34:04] However, we wanted to make sure that the verbiage was clear that internal [34:09] accessory units were definitely allowed in those homes because they can build it [34:15] in their house. And we just wanted to clarify that for people that had been [34:20] asking [34:23] 1792030. [34:27] We actually altered the words and we added the words accessory dwelling unit [34:33] and removed the words conditional use permit. We did that because the new [34:39] state code says that no city is allowed to use a conditional use permit for any [34:48] type of a dwelling unit. They can use business licenses. They can [34:54] use applications. they cannot use conditional use permits [34:59] that can add conditions to that dwelling mix. [35:04] The second change was just some minor word changes that allows [35:12] the the sentence to be more clear on how and when. [35:18] And lastly, when we took a t took a look at the [35:23] allowance matrix, we actually had two lines that were essentially the same [35:30] thing that discussed accessory dwelling units and then one line that called it a [35:36] residential unit. So, [35:40] what we did, since we haven't fixed this in a long, [35:44] long time, we just decided to fix it while we were here. Essentially, we're [35:49] getting rid of the line that says accessory residential unit [35:54] because it's redundant multiple times. And we made sure that we have and then [36:00] we took the other two that were basically a different wording of the [36:05] same thing and we combined them into one. [36:08] showing where the dwelling unit is allowed, [36:13] if that makes sense. So, you've got detached and internal. [36:20] It's all one word there or one term on the allowance matrix line. [36:27] So, those are the changes we made. Any questions? [36:31] Did it was approved by the planning commission. I always forget that. [36:36] Always. I just had one question and I think it's just a matter of [36:40] clarification on 92.02 uh B. [36:45] You've got all of that highlighted there. It's regarding the maybe uh let's [36:50] see right scroll down or scroll up a little more. [36:56] Oh, sorry. Wrong direction. Scroll the other up. There you go. [37:00] » Oh, >> my bad. Keep going. Right there. uh that [37:03] be um the any detached over 650 is that [37:08] new? Okay. The one part is new and and I'm [37:12] glad you're asking this is I wasn't sure if it was new or great clarification [37:16] » adding the >> before the state said you can't have [37:22] more than one additional stall requested or required [37:27] for any unit. In the new legislation, they came out [37:34] and said, in fact, I believe they're the ones that came up with the 650 foot [37:39] rule, and they allow cities to request two stalls [37:46] for a larger detached unit. And so, it really [37:53] it really only goes towards detached units that are larger. [37:59] In any other case, whether it's smaller, internal, detached, if it's smaller than [38:04] 650, we still have the requirement to add one [38:09] one additional stall. So, we just did change it for two stalls if it's above [38:15] 650. That's almost something we pulled word for word from that state code. [38:22] It makes sense to where you have more people. If it's a larger detached unit [38:29] there, there's a greater possibility for more vehicular use. So, we're mandating [38:34] two on the larger. >> Okay, [38:37] great. Okay. uh at this time open it up for is [38:42] there first of all is there any public discussion on oh sorry [38:48] not necessary but is there any other discussion within the [38:52] » I had a couple questions um >> that I'm just kind of trying to learn [38:56] here I noticed absolutely >> uh so we've got um [39:02] » when I was kind of looking through this and I I did go look at the state code [39:05] and they and they talk about internal like what you were mentioning and then [39:10] detached. But I noticed that in a lot of our verbiage we say attached instead of [39:16] internal. Is there a reason for that? And could [39:20] that be construed slightly different than internal? For example, if someone [39:26] decided they were going to create an addition onto their house and it's [39:32] attached to their house. >> Is that why we're using attached? [39:36] Because we want to allow that. That's why we're using it. [39:39] » Okay. >> The state does require us to allow it. [39:43] » Okay. >> So, they require any type of [39:48] the way that they use it is internal for a home. In all technicality, if you [39:54] build an addition to a home and make that an accessory part and you meet all [39:59] of the requirements for the building code, it's still considered internal. [40:07] And we found it better to use the word attached. [40:13] And then the internal is actually in different parts of the code and the [40:17] building code really specifies that out. So when they inspect it, regardless [40:23] whether it's an attachment, uh, detached, an apartment, that building [40:29] code really differentiates. And so, >> yeah, [40:33] » that was one thing we just >> That's great. Yeah. And I'm completely [40:36] okay with that. I just was kind of trying to clarify if, you know, if there [40:39] was a specific reason for that. The other question is, um, what's the [40:44] difference between an accessory apartment and an accessory dwelling [40:48] unit? Is there something specifically different about that or is that [40:52] » Nope. >> Just an older verbiage? Do we want [40:56] » Do we want to update our code to be consistent? [40:59] » Be consistent. >> So that's what we're that's what we're [41:01] doing. >> Okay. So because we still have it like [41:03] in C right there. It's still all over. >> So [41:09] » twice in there. >> I put I I It's not in this ordinance. [41:15] However, I made an image that made it a little easier to see. and I showed it at [41:19] the commission. What you're seeing here is accessory [41:24] apartment and accessory residential unit [41:29] » and I believe that there is an accessory [41:34] building. There's three. Okay. In all technicality, we need two. We need one [41:40] that's an accessory dwelling unit and one that's an accessory building. [41:46] » Okay. A long time ago, they just called them residential units, but for about [41:52] the last decade, both state and a lot of cities have started referring to them as [41:59] ADUs or accessory dwelling units. >> Yeah, [42:04] » we're just following the basic nomenclature that everybody's using. I [42:10] guess in 20 years if they start calling them residential units, we could change [42:14] it back. >> Yeah. So it doesn't matter that much, [42:17] but we wanted to be consistent. So that's why we're trimming it down, [42:23] changing the name to a proper name that everybody uses so that they understand [42:27] because if they read this and they go read some article [42:32] » from the newspaper about state code, then they have more questions and it [42:39] makes it more confusing. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, I guess getting back to [42:43] my question, I noticed um in uh 17.92.030 [42:51] um C and it talks about accessory apartments. Do we want to change that [42:57] verbiage? >> Yeah, we can. [42:59] » Okay, >> that's great. And then and then maybe [43:02] remove And then if you have that completely removed, you could remove the [43:07] the um use matrix down below as well, right? And remove the accessory [43:14] apartment from that. >> Yeah. Well, so that's what we're doing [43:18] in the proposed. We're removing the word apartment, but that that's that is a [43:23] good idea. We can >> we can say accessory dwelling [43:29] » unit rather than apartment. >> Okay. [43:32] » And and it just it's great. It just keeps [43:35] » good for consistency >> the consistency of the words. So yeah. [43:40] » Yep. Yep. >> Cool. [43:42] » One thing that I noticed under [43:48] » the conditions >> I just keep thinking. [43:53] Sorry, it's uh 17920 [43:58] where it says um you can have a temporary absence of three years for [44:03] this the particular things it says temporary job assignment, sbatical and [44:06] voluntary service. Does military fall into any of those or is that something [44:10] that we feel like we should add? >> I believe [44:14] the purpose was there. I don't remember. [44:21] » I think it's vague enough that >> I think it I think it just I think the [44:25] way we word it just covers that. >> I don't ever and to be honest, there's [44:31] only one time in six years that someone asked. They went on a church mission [44:38] » and that's the only time they've ever asked. And it really wasn't a hard no [44:43] because their son took over the main unit they were living in. [44:47] » So technically was occupied. >> Yeah. [44:54] » Yep. Yeah. >> That's what I figured, but I don't know [44:56] if we needed to be more specific or not. >> And then I did have one other just [45:02] question and this would just be kind of, you know, have we thought about this? Um [45:08] but uh Utah permits m municipalities to prohibit rentals under 30 days and adus [45:17] under 90 days. >> Um that the Utah code basically says [45:22] that we can >> is that something that we want to detail [45:26] in here? Is that something we care about? What that would that would [45:30] eliminate was and I don't care one way or another but if we're thinking about [45:34] it maybe we need to make a decision uh whether they could use that as an Airbnb [45:39] or a VBO you know >> we have thought about that [45:43] » okay >> and I'll tell you and I'll give you the [45:45] explanation so in the past [45:50] there are some cities especially larger ones and cities that utilize tourism a [45:56] lot that require specific [46:01] applications, payments, [46:05] andor business licenses for Airbnbs. Um, [46:11] the past three councils, we've definitely had this discussion quite a [46:16] few times. In essence, and I don't I'll just explain a little bit so that it [46:22] makes sense. When you create a shortterm rental, [46:28] in order to be able to use it or utilize it or even make money, you have to [46:34] attach yourself to one of the companies that put your apartment out there and [46:42] they do the marketing for you. And these companies are very strict in what they [46:47] require, what they allow. They they actually allow people to um it's like [46:55] Google where you can put your level of service that you feel like you received [47:00] and everyone can do that. So after a lot of years of discussing this, we didn't [47:08] feel a need to have any kind of a requirement [47:12] whether they're in a detached uh uh internal or the the whole home because [47:20] and and it's held up so far because those companies require so much that if [47:28] they don't keep that up, they don't make any money and they have to use it as a [47:32] normal residents anyway. So that's why we haven't really implored more use for [47:40] short-term rental. There are some smaller cities that have [47:46] and talking to the planners, it just seems more of an inconvenience [47:52] because they always the short-term rental properties, they keep it up [47:56] better than even normal renters, long-term renters. So [48:01] » yeah. us. Great. I just wasn't sure, you know, if we were specifically thinking [48:06] about it or not. I'm cool either way. Yeah. So, yeah. Okay. Thank you. [48:14] » Any other discussion on this? >> If not, I'll entertain a motion. [48:25] I'll make a motion that we adopt these changes to ordinance 2026-13 with the [48:33] addition of changing [48:37] accessory apartment to accessory dwelling unit in that one spot. [48:40] » 1792. >> Thank you. [48:46] Uh I I make a motion that we adopt this as [48:50] presented as amended. >> I will second. Okay. Have a motion. It's [48:55] been seconded. How do we vote? Jay, >> yes. [48:59] » John, >> yes. [49:00] » Chris, >> yes. [49:02] » Jen, >> yes. [49:04] » I vote yes. Also passes. [49:08] Great. Moving on to agenda item number five. Uh, discussion and update on the [49:14] Smithfield City Historic Museum renovation project. Uh, take just a m [49:19] just real quick. Were we supposed to open it up for public comment on that? I [49:24] don't know if we needed to or not. >> Okay. [49:30] » Oh, yeah. That's right. Yep. Sorry. I'm used to being at the planning [49:33] commission, so that's why I was thinking of that. So, thank you. [49:37] » Okay. Have a discussion and update on Smithfield City Historic Museum [49:42] renovation project. Uh we'll hear from Jeff Gitens and uh may also have some [49:48] additional details come from Justin. So Jeff, [49:53] welcome. [49:58] » Thank you. Good evening, everyone. Glad to be here and grateful for your [50:04] listening here. I've just been asked to come and basically answer any questions [50:08] you have about where we're at. Yes, I can do that. I can eat it if you [50:14] want. So, I've just basically been asked to be [50:18] here to answer any questions you have about where we're at and what we're [50:22] doing. But what we're trying to do is get the upstairs done. We need the [50:27] display room desperately. And uh I think we made some really good [50:33] progress in recent months and uh we've had a lot of pleased people come. The [50:40] thing we are most pleased for is how engaged the people are that come [50:46] to see it. They're involved. They come with purpose and reason. And most of [50:51] them, excuse me, most of them come with [50:56] pictures, relics, family histories, and things in their hands saying, "I'm the [51:02] end of the line or it's my responsibility. I want this to be seen. [51:07] I don't want it thrown away by my children or my grandchildren. And uh [51:11] it's good people have that perspective. It really is. We've received some [51:15] marvelous things, some interesting things. Uh just real quickly, let me [51:20] tell you a couple things that's happened regarding the upstairs. [51:26] We did receive a CLG grant, as most of you know, for 20,000. That is the [51:32] maximum that's allowed. And quite frankly, I'm a little surprised. But the [51:37] way that happened is we had Jansen Bennett. um he is the state architect [51:45] and he came up and has looked at it with Justin I just recently yesterday [51:51] and u he and Chris Hansen [51:56] who was with the Shipo State History Preservation Office [52:01] and they asked us questions about it after they looked at it and they seemed [52:07] pretty satisfied with the answers we gave [52:10] But um yeah, we need that done before we can do really anything else because we [52:16] required to where it's a public building to be able to get everyone to that area. [52:25] And uh we've decided to put it in the east opening upstairs. Those of you [52:30] who've been up there, the east opening that will require us to cut through that [52:36] twoft wall. The east wall is 2 feet thick. The other three walls are three [52:41] feet thick. And so, uh, they'll have to cut it basically from both sides. We had [52:47] Cash Valley Concrete cutting come and they were happy to do it. They said they [52:52] would give us about a $500 reduction where it's here in the community as [52:58] their gift. It's going to cost us around $4,500 to $5,000. [53:03] Uh but the good news is that the door frame that's there is actually high [53:08] enough for the lift to to raise it right to that that level is where it would [53:13] need to be to for the lift to raise high enough for [53:19] people to get out. We will need to cut a foot to 18 inches off the down to the [53:26] floor so it's floor level. It will be a freestanding structure. It will we'll [53:31] have the cutter also. We've talked to them. They'll cut for us when they do do [53:35] this. They'll cut for the actual tower itself, four places [53:42] in the concrete where we can anchor it down very sturdy. So, it's a [53:46] freestanding structure and uh [53:51] it we will enter it from the east. So, any ramp that would be needed would be [53:55] very minimal, just enough to get up to the floor of the lift. probably I'm [54:00] guessing about two to four inches so we wouldn't have to go out and uh [54:08] so we had Jansen and Chris come and they were great help they're very very [54:13] professional these are the CLG grant as you know might know are [54:21] national park funds administered by the state [54:25] and so they told us the procedure what we would have have to go through to [54:30] access that money. It's fairly simple. They would drop a contract saying we [54:34] will do this, this, and this before we receive to money. We will sign it, get [54:39] it back to them, and it's fairly simple procedure. [54:43] So, that's been done. Um, we're happy with [54:48] that. Uh, we also got the wraps tax for [54:52] 40,000. So, we have 60,000 towards the the lift. Now, the tough [54:58] news is it's going to cost around 69,000 plus. [55:04] We're going to have to come up with a little money on our own. [55:08] I feel that we can raise some money in the future and my pledge to you is I [55:13] will continue to do the very best I can. I pledge that to you as council to raise [55:21] the funds, as many of the funds as we can. [55:26] What I have found is if we get people in the museum [55:32] that have an interest in it, they volunteer money, believe it or not. [55:38] And we had such a case. Two people came up from Earl Harper's [55:44] family. She was a great niece and she brought [55:49] pictures antique oval framed colorized pictures [55:55] and uh they brought Earl Harper's camera that he took on his mission. At one [56:00] point I didn't know he went on a mission to England before he went to World War [56:05] I. They brought stories [56:09] and Lyn and I were able to interview her one night. [56:14] It was very interesting. her husband got out his checkbook and wrote out a check [56:19] for $1,000 while he was there. Just like that. And we received another [56:25] little donation yesterday of $500. I don't tell people what they should [56:30] donate because they have to want to do it. And uh everything is I tell them [56:37] everything is appreciated. But we just have some wonderful people [56:42] uh and wonderful gifts that have come our way. Uh we have a facial recognition [56:49] system subs subscription that Eric Bean Bingham knew the people [56:55] who do this and they've given us a a free subscription for facial [57:01] recognition. that required us to get a new email because they the facial [57:07] recognition people are very conscious of personal data [57:11] » and so they won't send it to a personal email so it will be sent to Justin [57:16] helped me set up an a separate email with the city so that we can accommodate [57:22] that and Eric is excited to get started on that. The benefit of that is all of [57:28] the school pictures, all the public pictures where we have names and we can [57:34] document it, but there's always question marks. We don't know some people always [57:39] in especially the older the picture. But with this facial recognition program, we [57:45] create a data data file and that will link that and be able to identify people [57:52] that we can't identify. And for sure, but they can and it it's [57:59] really fascinating. But that's come our way free gratus [58:03] thanks to Eric Bingham and he's excited to get started on it. [58:09] Um we're looking at creating new uh interactive [58:16] displays especially to involve our youth. That's one of the most rewarding [58:20] things I have is to watch the youth get involved and that's really fun. I mean, [58:25] they're the youth are really excited about it. And uh [58:30] so Linda is working on [58:35] some Smithfield Main Street building [58:40] interactive displays. and Whitney Love Day is working on uh [58:47] some televised something that we can televise a video screen that we can put [58:52] a CD in or other information and let people watch things and we have quite a [58:58] bit believe it or not to watch. There have been interviews done of a lot of [59:04] the older members of the community from way back and I think people will [59:09] appreciate that. I I will spearhead a new display on the south wall as you [59:14] walk through the ADA entrance about the original settlers that came to [59:21] Smithfield, why they came here, where they came from, what country they came [59:25] from, what brought them here. And it's uh [59:30] it's fascinating to learn these things where they came from what you know and [59:37] it's anyway I think that will be fun for people of course we it'll help people [59:43] identify their their um ancestors or family members that came here [59:51] and uh we've had a lot of success with the the display on the report. Uh Linda [59:58] created something so that people could sign if they're related to any of these [1:00:02] people. We had a lady come last night from Texas, her and her husband. They [1:00:07] made prayer arrangements, but they came and they are related, directly related, [1:00:12] descendants of four of the original pioneer families. And so she brought [1:00:17] pictures with her and they were just a delight to have. And they stayed until [1:00:22] we had to close. So that that was great. Um those are some of the things we're [1:00:29] trying to do. We have we have a breakdown. Justin can run you through [1:00:34] whatever he wants. I'll be glad to to answer any questions. But uh we had [1:00:40] Bennett's glass come up and uh look at what kind of door we needed to come in [1:00:47] the from the elevator into the building. And it will be key lock only. So the [1:00:53] person attending somebody with um that needs help will [1:00:59] have a key. In other words, people from upstairs will not be able to open the [1:01:04] door and we will not have a closing cylinder [1:01:09] on it which is fairly pricey. That actually saves money because the door is [1:01:14] supposed to open freely to the inside the building and it's supposed to just [1:01:18] stay open, you know. So, um that's good. But anyway, Bennett's Glass gave us a a [1:01:25] bid that's good for like uh I can't remember just is it 60 days 30 to 60 [1:01:32] days. >> Okay. It was We can go over those prices [1:01:35] in a minute. We've got some uh numbers council of how to finish the rest of [1:01:38] that building or from some of the other rooms and stuff that Jeff and Linda have [1:01:41] been working hard on. We can talk about that. But very much uh appreciate [1:01:47] » that was $10,440. We got Steve Licky up there from Rocky [1:01:53] Mountain Power and he really actually got him to come up and go through the [1:01:58] building. He really enjoyed it and he was [1:02:02] he seemed very impressed and he has family was here at one time and so but [1:02:08] nonetheless he suggested that uh most grants with Rocky Mountain Power [1:02:15] Foundation are they ask you not to apply for more than generally not more than [1:02:20] 5,000 but he suggested what they really go by he says you can put Jeff you can [1:02:26] put any amount in you want Because what they go by is, how did he put it? [1:02:33] What will ever make the gauge click? [1:02:39] I might have to get my phone on. Whatever will make [1:02:44] the um gauge click that will move the project [1:02:49] forward. So he says, "I'm not telling you what to [1:02:53] do, but I I'd put $10,000 and tell you tell them why we need to get this done. [1:02:58] We're getting closer to having it finished up." So we did. We applied for [1:03:03] the full $10,000 knowing now what they look at closely. [1:03:08] Um that really helped. So Okay. >> Thank you. [1:03:13] » Yeah, I think Justin has a little bit of additional [1:03:16] » color that he can put on a couple of items here. So [1:03:19] » yeah, just uh Jeff's been hard. Jeff and Linda are always very hard at work over [1:03:22] there. If you notice, they're over there two days a week plus uh when it's open [1:03:26] uh when it's not open and in between. Uh when Jeff's not on a tractor, Jeff's at [1:03:31] the museum. We very much appreciate him and the time spent getting all those [1:03:34] bids. Uh as we talk about that building, uh we've been working on a um some [1:03:39] changes per the building inspection department. We've got to tweak the one [1:03:42] of the bathrooms a little bit. Uh there's some uh uh railing that we've [1:03:47] got to change uh to be into some ADA compliance. Uh we'll get that done. Some [1:03:51] uh grab bars, I believe they call them. Uh put in some signage. Uh we can get in [1:03:55] compliance there. As far as on the main floor, uh basically the only thing uh [1:03:59] left on the main floor outside of fixing that bathroom is the conference room. Uh [1:04:03] the conference room needs the electrical finished. Uh the flooring probably uh [1:04:08] flooring is problematic at best. Uh we have some pricing there, sheetrock, [1:04:12] paint, and then the bottom could actually be done. Uh we found out on the [1:04:15] stairs going up with the lift and stuff, the stairs uh actually will hit code [1:04:20] from as far as the stairs perspective themselves, but we would we do have to [1:04:23] install a railing on both sides. Um so that will be mandatory and that is from [1:04:28] the very bottom to uh to the top even where it makes the 90 and goes up onto [1:04:32] the floor. So uh we would need some railing there. As Jeff mentioned, 40,000 [1:04:37] in wraps tax, 20,000 in a CLG. those are approved. Uh we've applied for the [1:04:42] through the Rocky Mountain Power Foundation. Hope to get some funding [1:04:44] there. Um the lift is going to require some concrete work. We're going to have [1:04:48] to cut out some of the concrete out. I believe it's going to have to be on [1:04:52] about a 4ft base if I recall. Um with the concrete, so there's going to be [1:04:57] some costs with that. We're going to have to move the air conditioning unit [1:05:00] that's on the east side of the building. It's going to have to be relocated to [1:05:03] the south side of the building. And then as you look at the upstairs uh council, [1:05:07] um some of the electrical needs to be finished once the roughin electrical is [1:05:11] done. Uh it would require an inspection and then you could start looking at [1:05:14] sheetrock. It's already insulated. You could look at sheetrock. Uh there's some [1:05:18] flooring challenges. Uh you know, some flooring needs to be done up there. [1:05:22] Probably the biggest thing on the upstairs before really a whole lot can [1:05:25] proceed is cutting through that wall um on the east side to uh because you can't [1:05:30] come in is is if you go in now uh with the existing wall, you would have like a [1:05:34] two foot 18 to 24 inch fall off to the main floor. You can't have that with a [1:05:38] wheelchair obviously. So there's some challenges attaching to the building, [1:05:42] cutting a hole through that wall. Um you know it's an older building obviously so [1:05:47] when you're cutting holes through walls there can be some challenges there. [1:05:50] Jeff's went out and got some flooring bids, some sheetrock bids. Um, you know, [1:05:56] they're still even on top of the lift council, they're still, you know, you [1:06:00] start adding things up. Uh, and these are combined for the upstairs and the [1:06:04] and the downstairs, but flooring, you're still at 18,000. Sheetrock, paint, trim, [1:06:08] and framing, 19,000. Uh, we haven't got a bid yet on the handrail. Um, HVAC, [1:06:14] there's still some work to be done there. Rock repair, estimating 2500. uh [1:06:19] the you know some electrical to finish up. Um we are uh excited about what uh [1:06:25] what Jeff was able to do with a local contractor and a donor on the sophet and [1:06:29] fascia. That project can be finished. The building department signed off on [1:06:32] that. Um there was a a donation and then some inind there. So that project will [1:06:37] get finished on the outside. Jeff's talked to that contractor about moving [1:06:40] forward with it. Uh hopefully we can get that done before the winter, but that [1:06:43] will be uh up to the contractor there. So we're looking at some grant options. [1:06:48] council uh because without grand options it would take it's going to take still a [1:06:52] significant amount of funding to finish that upstairs uh as well as that main [1:06:57] floor. So uh the lift like I say the challenge is attaching it to the [1:07:00] building. It's cutting through the east wall. Um and so we'll keep working on [1:07:04] that. As Jeff said uh there's not very often Jeff comes over that he doesn't [1:07:08] have a donation of some type. Kudos to Jeff for all the donations him and the [1:07:12] entire group have collected, but Jeff's been instrumental in that as we all [1:07:16] know. So, we're looking at some some grants, but bottom line, without any [1:07:20] additional grant funding or donations, uh that project's pretty much going to [1:07:24] stall in reality, um because there's just simply no funding for it. Um you [1:07:28] know, there's some partial funding, as Jeff mentioned, for the lift. Uh but [1:07:32] it's going to take some additional funding to get that done. Obviously, we [1:07:35] don't want to lose out on the CLG grant or the wraps tax. Uh there are some [1:07:39] deadlines and stuff there. Uh so, we'll be looking at a proposal there, council, [1:07:43] of how we fund. Uh, so we s certainly don't want to lose out on $60,000 in [1:07:48] funding, right? >> So So we talking about what 50 60,000 to [1:07:51] finish the project? >> I think you're closer to 100 than [1:07:54] 50,000. >> Uh, just because there's some unknowns [1:07:58] like cutting through that wall, um, moving the AC, um, the electrical. Um, I [1:08:05] mean, you start going 18, 19 is 37, you know, and then, you know, it just adds [1:08:10] in a hurry. um you know so probably 50 to 100 is reasonable um but there's just [1:08:16] some unknowns on that east side and how that connects some electrical um so but [1:08:21] I still think you know there's definitely some significant funding [1:08:25] challenges left to finish that building council as I think we all know [1:08:29] » I've been kind of plugging along with it all the way all the way so maybe it's [1:08:31] just it's the name of that building >> so and it wouldn't bottom line when you [1:08:36] look at what it is now it's possible because of grants uh grants and [1:08:40] donations ations and council approved funding. So that's how we've got to get [1:08:44] that building open. Um I believe it was Jeff, correct me if I'm wrong. I think [1:08:48] we officially took ownership in 2019 if I recall. Um and so look at what's been [1:08:54] done from 19 through now. Uh but like you say that upstairs is a challenge. I [1:08:58] mean it is it is not usable as it sits. It is not safe. Uh it's blocked off and [1:09:04] not accessible. Um so it would be up to the council how they want to proceed. [1:09:08] Um, but we the next thing we're going to be looking at is actually how we can get [1:09:14] that lift attached to the building and what's involved. Um, once you start [1:09:19] cutting that wall, there's no going back. Like, let's be honest, like that's [1:09:23] that that's a big deal. Uh, when that when that cut in that wall for that lift [1:09:28] comes, so >> there's no absolute unknown or there's [1:09:30] no absolute known there. >> Yeah. And I mean, we're just not going [1:09:34] back. So, we've got to we got to play with that some about we know when that [1:09:39] door comes off or that and that however they cut that is it's a go like there's [1:09:45] no going back >> like we have to finish that to get that [1:09:48] thing sealed back off. So, um we have some challenges there for sure. Jay, [1:09:52] » I was just going to say I would assume that so it's already open and [1:09:56] everything. We want to get the what's downstairs finished first so it's all [1:10:00] co- compliant and everything. use that. >> So, we'll work on the the bathroom will [1:10:03] get fixed now. We'll work on getting it done. So, um that there's no issues [1:10:07] there. Very overall pretty pretty simple fixes there. We'll just get the person [1:10:12] in there and then it's up. I mean, the the conference room I mean obviously is [1:10:18] the building's open without it. Would it certainly be nice if it was done? Uh [1:10:21] absolutely. Uh of course. So, but yeah, we do have some challenges finishing [1:10:25] that upstairs. >> So, on on the cutting through the wall, [1:10:28] we do have close estimate on that. It's going to be [1:10:32] between 45 and $5,000. And [1:10:38] I have to take a little different stand, Justin, pardon me, but I believe that we [1:10:45] I really believe we can get it done at around $100,000. We can get it all [1:10:49] finished up. We had Lance Walker come up, very experienced brickmason. [1:10:55] He's offered to do a lot of the work that would be involved with with cutting [1:11:00] through the wall, you know, the the extra. And we've got the brick, the old [1:11:05] brick to match. And he said, "I owe you one." He told me about why he owed me [1:11:12] something. And he he promised do a job for me. Forgot about it. But that's all [1:11:18] right. He's a good man and very very experienced. We actually had him come [1:11:22] before we had the concrete cutters come and he guided us said this is what you [1:11:27] need to ask. These are the questions you need to ask and this is what we need to [1:11:31] do. And uh but he'll come in and bring the level up on where we're going [1:11:37] to put the window on the north opening east side north opening. [1:11:43] And uh but he'll he'll do that stuff for us. He's offered to do it. So those kind [1:11:50] of things are helpful, but I think real honestly, I'm pretty sure we can get it [1:11:57] finished up at $100,000. >> Justin, there's no short-term occupancy [1:12:03] issues with the fixes that need to be made for the bathrooms. [1:12:06] » No, we're full. >> Okay, good. [1:12:08] » And in that in that conference room, um the flooring has been done for the most [1:12:15] part, the rough flooring. There's one more piece of [1:12:20] thin wood that needs to be put on and then we'll need to put some leveling [1:12:23] base on it before they try to put the [1:12:29] regular flooring in. So, we'll even it up real nice for Dan [1:12:35] Stone to put the flooring in. >> So, is there enough funding to put the [1:12:39] lift in or is that is that unknown because of the wall? Is that what you're [1:12:43] saying? >> That that's the cost that's a little [1:12:47] unknown. I mean, we we have a pretty good idea. Like I said, $4,500 to [1:12:52] $5,000. >> Has the lift been purchased already? [1:12:55] » No, we haven't signed any contract yet. We'll want what we'll want to do is [1:12:59] we'll want to get um Mike Gardner, he's with the the lift company. We want to [1:13:07] get him up here with his engineers and that and show us exactly what needs to [1:13:13] be done. That's what >> Justin talked about. We got to have that [1:13:18] done >> before we do anything [1:13:20] » before we sign any kind of contract and we want the contract to specify exactly [1:13:24] what we need. When they did the original drawings, conceptual drawings and so on. [1:13:31] Uh it showed the the lift coming in from inside or out outside the building but [1:13:38] from a different direction but it will it would come in from the [1:13:43] east. And so the tower doesn't need to be near as wide because it'll just come [1:13:46] straight in. And uh so it won't be near as wide. [1:13:52] Whereas if it came from the south, you'd have to come in, put them in undercover [1:13:58] and so on. They also put in the original conceptional drawings that were done by [1:14:04] Steve Cornell from state history preservation office. He did quite [1:14:10] detailed and he envisioned a glass tower and we we don't really want a glass [1:14:17] tower. Uh we prefer to have something like the hardy board, sturdy board and [1:14:23] and maybe just a a sight glass or something on the pod so [1:14:31] they can see it a little bit as they go up. But, uh, there's things we can do to [1:14:37] keep the the price down and still do a good job. We are dedicated to doing it [1:14:42] once and doing it right. And so, anyway, [1:14:46] » so you're at the point now where you need to have it engineered to find out [1:14:50] exactly what you need to do before you can proceed forward. Is that what I'm [1:14:53] hearing? >> On the lift? Yes. [1:14:54] » Yes. On the lift. So, that's where that's where you're at with that. [1:14:57] » Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. We're not going to sign a contract till [1:15:00] everybody's knows exactly what we're paying and what we're getting into. [1:15:04] » Yeah. >> Yeah, for sure. And it'll come before [1:15:07] you guys, I'm sure. >> Well, thank you so much. [1:15:11] » Thank you, Jeff and and Linda, for all of your dedication, everything you've [1:15:16] done. You guys are amazing. >> Well, we thank you guys, especially [1:15:21] Justin. He's been a a real savior to us and keeping track of things and helping [1:15:26] he's been helping us write grants and has relieved us of some time that Lind [1:15:31] and I have spent in the past. But >> the value that this has to the community [1:15:35] is extraordinary. It really is. And this goes down to your effort and your uh [1:15:41] team's effort, all the volunteer labor that's gone into this. [1:15:45] » There's a lot of good volunteers. >> We're also facing some real decisions we [1:15:49] need to make here. >> Sure. Because I understand. [1:15:51] » Uh, nobody's questioning the value of this, but we're facing some real costs [1:15:56] that are unaccounted for and not not budgeted for currently. [1:16:00] » Yes. >> And what the more you can do to kind of [1:16:03] lock in those numbers and help us figure out what that is and I appreciate all [1:16:07] you do to get donations and the seat grants. That's absolutely valuable for [1:16:11] sure. >> Just a few weeks ago, we had the Doug 55 [1:16:14] members of the Douglas family. Mr. Doug built the store originally, but 55 [1:16:19] members came to the store and um we basically had to turn out the lights and [1:16:25] throw the last ones out. But they [1:16:31] one of the descendants named David could understand what was needed and it's [1:16:35] money because the rest of the work is by professionals, right? like the lift. And [1:16:43] so he's taken it upon himself the Douglases are he's committed that the [1:16:47] Douglas is going to raise a little money. It might, you know, it might be [1:16:50] $1,500. That's what I think they paid before. But hey, that helps. Every [1:16:55] little bit helps. >> And uh [1:16:57] » but but we really need to lock all this down and make sure we've got bids and [1:17:02] specifics about what's going to be done, what's not going to be done. [1:17:05] » One thing you need to understand >> where the funding is coming from. So we [1:17:08] appreciate that. What one thing though that you need to understand is you can't [1:17:11] get bids for a long term. Most businesses like Trend Interiors and [1:17:17] Bennett's Glass will give you a bid for so many days and that's it. And they [1:17:24] won't give an estimate. They'll only give a bid, but it's good for so many [1:17:27] days. >> It's a good guideline to work on though. [1:17:30] Again, it's a good estimate. So, it gives us an idea of what it could cost [1:17:34] because if it goes up, it's not going to be drastic. So, at least gives us an [1:17:37] idea. Yeah. And I I've got the estimates estimates from some, but actual bids on [1:17:43] others because they won't give out an estimate. They'll give a bid. This is [1:17:47] what it's going to cost you. This is what you're going to get. [1:17:49] » Well, and in terms of fundraising, we we work off the high numbers. And then if [1:17:53] we come in under bids or we come in low lower than right the estimates, then [1:17:58] » right, >> that money can be spent elsewhere and [1:17:59] there's always places to spend the money. I'd be happy to answer any of [1:18:03] your specific questions or if any of you want to see what we're looking at and [1:18:08] get a feel for it yourself. Todd, I know you'd like to be there and like to have [1:18:12] you. So, just get a hold of me. I'll come up anytime, day or night, and we [1:18:18] can go through it. >> You know, where that building's come [1:18:21] from since 2019 to where it is now. It's just phenomenal. And congratulations for [1:18:26] your guys' dedication. We do appreciate it. But I I agree with John. We got a [1:18:31] little bit. We got to push it over the hill. [1:18:32] » Yep. I'll pass that on to the other volunteers. Thank you all of you. [1:18:36] » Thank you, Jeff. Appreciate it, sir. [1:18:42] » Okay, moving on. We'll move to agenda item number six, city manager report. [1:18:47] Turn the time over to Justin. >> Hi, just a few things tonight. Um, I'll [1:18:52] let uh John talk about it in a minute, but we had uh we met with a [1:18:56] representative of the cash water district uh today on a project that we [1:19:00] can potentially do here at the city office. We're super excited. Uh John is [1:19:04] going to fill you guys in on what we talked about on stuff, but I think it's [1:19:07] going to be a really good project for the city. It's going to be at this [1:19:10] building. Uh John will fill in on that. As far as the spring line up the canyon, [1:19:14] knock on wood, we are that contractor is doing really well. uh they are on target [1:19:19] to finish their part of the project or phase one in October uh with the [1:19:24] exception of there is one culvert uh that Clay is working on with the [1:19:28] contractor with the county. We had one really really bad con culvert up the [1:19:32] canyon. We've had to get some specialty pipe. Uh it won't be here till sometime [1:19:36] in October. Uh but the contractor is cruising along on phase one and then [1:19:40] they'll finish up that culvert and phase one that spring line replacement uh will [1:19:45] be done this year. So, appreciate Clay overseeing that. The new 3 million [1:19:49] gallon tank, basically floors done, walls are there, and they're going to [1:19:54] the roof. Uh, that is a very big uh you feel very small when you're around that [1:19:59] tank now. Uh, that tank's very big. Appreciate Clay uh overseeing both of [1:20:04] those as well as the the storm water project. Uh, we're actually working, he [1:20:08] was meeting with them. We're working on phase two. Hope to have it out to bid [1:20:11] sooner than later as we go on that. Uh the audit started in August and we'll [1:20:16] work on on it through October. Uh you know some of those big things that you [1:20:21] look at or that are really uh uh reviewed like impact fees uh to the [1:20:27] penny. Um uh they are very much scrutinized where they're at, where [1:20:31] they're going. Um, you actually, if you didn't know, if we have unspent impact [1:20:37] fees, we actually have to set aside interest uh on those to give back to the [1:20:42] developer if they weren't spent within the time uh period uh that's allowed [1:20:46] that six years. So, they're heavily scrutinized. All grants are scrutinized. [1:20:50] Rats tax, we have a ton of grants. Uh we're we're totally happy to see those [1:20:54] scrutinized because it means we did really well um in bringing those in, [1:20:58] especially like with the library. uh the fraud risk assessment something we do [1:21:02] every year uh per state interesting on there all the boxes we can check a [1:21:07] couple of the boxes we can't check uh right now for example or we don't have a [1:21:11] CPA on staff find it very interesting that's one of the questions um one of [1:21:16] the other questions it says are employees and elected officials required [1:21:19] to annually commit in writing to abide by a statement of ethical behavior uh [1:21:23] what I find interesting in that is we would have to have I believe there's 161 [1:21:28] employees right now plus or minus. I would have to have 161 forms whether [1:21:33] they're seasonal, part-time, council, mayor. Simply can't get them. Uh that's [1:21:37] just a box. We can't check. We're just I I can't I'm not going to be able to [1:21:41] acquire those. Uh I don't think a seasonal or a part-timer that's here for [1:21:45] a month would even know what that means. Uh if they read it, the council [1:21:49] certainly does. The mayor certainly does. Um but there's a couple of boxes [1:21:53] on there. We just don't uh we couldn't check this year uh because of things [1:21:58] like that, but we've checked a lot of those boxes. So, we'll keep working on [1:22:01] the audit. They'll come in most likely probably in December as we finish that [1:22:05] up. Uh because there's a little uh in November there's a scheduling change if [1:22:10] you went the second Wednesday uh is Veterans Day. We noted earlier this year [1:22:14] we're not holding council on Veterans Day. So, uh the 1111 meeting is actually [1:22:18] on 114. Uh just as a reminder as you plan our October meeting uh is just its [1:22:24] normal second uh second Wednesday. Um but outside of that I don't have [1:22:29] anything else tonight Todd unless you have questions. [1:22:33] Any questions? >> Okay. Thank you Justin. Appreciate that. [1:22:38] And seems like I always wind up going first when we wind up doing our [1:22:42] councilman report. So I'm going to go the other direction. We'll let start at [1:22:45] Jay and come the other direction. >> Cool. [1:22:49] um mosquito. Let's start off with the mosquitoes. [1:22:52] Okay. Um some interesting things with that I found out in the last meeting. [1:22:56] First of all, two weeks ago, all but three communities in the valley now have [1:23:00] tested West Nile virus. So, it's West Nile here. And uh there's been last two [1:23:05] weeks ago, there was actually uh two or three people now that's been [1:23:09] hospitalized with it. So, it's here in the community. Now what's what that does [1:23:13] too is that when before if you didn't want your neighborhood sprayed um you [1:23:18] could opt out of it but once your community test is positive for that they [1:23:22] just it goes to emergency mode and everything gets sprayed [1:23:25] » so you can't opt out of it. Um some couple interesting things about that. [1:23:29] It's only the female mosquito that bites you that carries it and they only bite [1:23:34] between dusk and dawn. So those mosquitoes that bite you during the day [1:23:38] is a different breed. It's not the ones that get you. Um, also the mosquitoes. [1:23:42] Another interesting fact, the only way this goes away is when the cold frost [1:23:46] comes and kills the mosquitoes. And so until October, we're going to be, you [1:23:50] know, it's going to be interesting to see what happens. The big thing is the [1:23:53] people who own horses. It's very detrimental to them. They've had now [1:23:56] about six or seven horses in the valley that have caught West Nile and died of [1:24:00] it. And I guess it's a really painful way to go. So for the horse, so kind of [1:24:05] keep that in mind. They were all about that. Um, but there Oh, there was [1:24:08] another concern too. They said that there's people who's been sick that [1:24:11] probably had the west now, but they didn't go to the hospital or anything. [1:24:14] So, they didn't know they really had it. So, there's probably more cases just [1:24:16] they're mild cases, but it's here in the valley and so um it's kind of [1:24:20] interesting. So, now when you go out there, you know, so you get a little [1:24:24] nervous. So, they said make sure you protect yourself, wear long pants, long [1:24:27] coats and stuff like that. Anyway, that's that one. Um talk about the fire [1:24:31] service a little bit. Um the board of trustees, they now have their board [1:24:34] members all put together. Um is made up of mayors in the valley. Our mayor is [1:24:38] the chairperson of the board of trustees for the fire the fire district. It's not [1:24:42] called the county fire district. It's called the cash fire district fire [1:24:46] protection district I think it's called or something like that. Um and then they [1:24:49] have also um established where they have a technical committees um from the north [1:24:54] and the south that's made up of the fire chiefs and some other citizens at large [1:24:59] um to help make that up. And then we also still have the advisory committee [1:25:03] in the north end of the valley and the south end of the valley. We were [1:25:05] supposed to have a meeting uh tomorrow night because they had an emergency [1:25:08] meeting last week with the mayors. Um the Jeff Young who's the mayor from [1:25:12] Richmond who's the chair of it. He uh basically said let's postpone it until [1:25:16] after next Wednesday meeting of the fire of the trustees. So what they're working [1:25:20] on right now is probably seen in the paper. They're working on the funding [1:25:23] and that sort of thing. Some things that are going through. So it's it's working [1:25:26] its way. It's starting to maybe working some things down and everything. So it's [1:25:30] going to be interesting to see where that goes and I'm sure we'll have more [1:25:33] discussion on that future. Um, and I just want to real quick on my [1:25:36] ending here, I want to shout out and tell the uh publicly tell the school [1:25:41] district thanks for the sidewalk they put on six south. I was really surprised [1:25:46] at what that made a difference for that street. It really cleaned that up and [1:25:50] they did a fantastic job. And I just, you know, in our meeting here, I'd like [1:25:54] to say, "Hey, thank you. You did you made a big difference over in that [1:25:56] community." The only thing that's kind of a little weird is when you get up [1:25:59] there, there's a wowee in the sidewalk where it goes around that valve. So, if [1:26:04] you're coming down there on a skateboard or whatever, [1:26:07] » you better be careful. >> They'll only do it once. [1:26:10] » So, that is true. And, you know, and and [1:26:13] when we get our bridge done, I think that'll be a f fantastic addition to six [1:26:17] south. But it it really they did a fantastic job with it and it really [1:26:21] cleaned up that block. And so, anybody see the school district, thank you. [1:26:26] Thank you very much from from our from my standpoint anyway. Thank you. [1:26:31] » Thank you, Jay John. >> Yeah, agreed on the sidewalk project. [1:26:36] That's been fantastic. >> It's over in your neighborhood. [1:26:38] » Yeah, it's >> it's my neighborhood now. Uh Justin, I [1:26:44] met today with Autumn from the Cash Water District. uh they received a grant [1:26:48] last year, earlier this year for some money to distribute to cities to [1:26:55] rellandscape using water wise landscaping and they reached out to the [1:26:59] cities to see what interest we had uh as we visited. Uh Justin immediately knew [1:27:04] that we could use that funding to help rellandscape here uh around the city [1:27:10] campus where we have so many kind of narrow strips of grass and turf that is [1:27:16] kind of not usable really as turf but takes all the work of maintaining [1:27:20] watering mowing uh as turf. And so, uh, our our thinking right now is that we're [1:27:26] going to convert much of this landscaping around the city offices and [1:27:31] along the park strip here on First South to some water wise landscaping. We [1:27:37] Justin's identified about 4,000 square feet that we can convert. and the cash [1:27:42] district is essentially verbally committed to about $10,000 worth of [1:27:47] funding to help pay for that and suggest we might even get some additional [1:27:51] funding from slow the flow who compensates [1:27:56] communities when they remove turf. And so we might be able to come up with 10 [1:28:01] or 15 almost $20,000 worth of funding for that. And of course, our public's [1:28:07] works folks can do a lot of the labor as a inind contribution to that project. [1:28:12] So, we're very excited about uh that and tightening up our water usage and the [1:28:19] labor that needs to be done to maintain the land landscape around the city [1:28:23] offices here. So, that'll probably happen here in the fall. We need to have [1:28:29] spent that money by spring, but we're probably going to try to do it here in [1:28:32] the fall, uh is what Justin suggests. So that's exciting. Library is busy busy. [1:28:39] Even though the summer programs are done, now we're kind of starting into [1:28:42] fall programs and schools uh and children and community members in the [1:28:48] library. So continue to be very busy at the library. [1:28:51] Uh in terms of our uh community development programs, [1:28:56] uh we'll be kind of launching our USU partnership in two weeks here uh at the [1:29:03] council meeting. in uh we'll have the leadership from USU here to talk with us [1:29:09] and we have been working on setting some [1:29:14] community priorities on kind of some of the ideas we want them to focus on. We [1:29:19] expect that USU will also as they review the community, they'll have some [1:29:23] suggestions on what to work on also. So, it's kind of a two-part [1:29:29] uh priority setting and so that will happen over the over the coming months. [1:29:33] We're excited to get that going. Uh we kind of had an exciting month in terms [1:29:38] of trails. Uh [1:29:41] and so here here's what I'll say for now. The access that we that the [1:29:46] community has been uh enjoying access from the end of Summit Drive down into [1:29:51] Birch Canyon that has been closed by the property owners and we hope that [1:29:57] citizens will respect that closure. We also expect that that closure will [1:30:02] not be permanent. Uh and that negotiations are ongoing with land [1:30:07] owners, not only for access from the end of Summit Drive into Birch Canyon, but [1:30:12] connecting all of that to the Bonville Shoreline Trail. And so over the next [1:30:17] six months to a year, maybe hopefully those negotiations will bear fruit and [1:30:22] we'll identify routes and we'll make agreements with land owners to kind of [1:30:27] uh open that up once and for all and and uh and and develop those trails in [1:30:33] really usable kinds of ways. In the meantime, we hope that citizens and [1:30:37] residents, as much as we all love to get on those trails, uh we hope that they'll [1:30:42] respect the property owners rights to do what they need to with their property [1:30:47] for now. Uh, also kind of related to that, the [1:30:53] Crow Mountain Neighborhood Group has been uh surveying local residents about [1:31:00] what amenities might be part of the new park, the [1:31:05] future park up on what we call the Tuison property up on Crow Mountain, the [1:31:10] 11acre uh city property up there. and they have [1:31:14] in the last few months collected 172 responses from residents. And so they [1:31:20] are now in the process of starting to collate and process that data that [1:31:24] they've gathered. And we've invited them to come present to the council uh the [1:31:29] first week of November about what they found and what they gathered on their [1:31:33] survey. And so we'll be able to share that [1:31:36] survey data with USU as they kind of consider uh designs for that park. So [1:31:43] that's been super helpful and that that group is just fantastic. That's that's [1:31:48] not a small lift to gather that kind of information. So we're super pleased with [1:31:52] their their work. And finally, the chamber is kind of back on track after [1:31:59] kind of a hiatus during the summer. The community trickor treat will be held on [1:32:06] October 16th. Can you believe we're already talking about Halloween? October [1:32:10] 16th from 4:30 to 8 at the rec center. So that's coming up. And the night of [1:32:15] giving is also already on the calendar for December 5th and tables are now [1:32:20] available for purchase. The theme this year for the night of giving is share [1:32:25] the joy and it's the 20th year of the night of giving. So that's quite a [1:32:30] milestone for the chamber and that uh annual effort. So, lots going on, lots [1:32:37] of good things going on. We're really excited. [1:32:42] » Thanks, John. Um, I don't know if you guys knew, but we've got a new mayor in [1:32:46] town. Got heads turned. [1:32:50] Um, this is just our youth mayor. No one's replacing um Mayor Aaron Rudy. We [1:32:56] love what he's doing. But uh basically we've got Lily King who is our new um [1:33:03] youth mayor and this year's been uh awesome. Um basically they've got uh [1:33:09] nine youth council executive members and they've got a total of 51 [1:33:16] um youth council. So that's more than we've ever had in the history of [1:33:21] Smithfield. And u they're a great group. um last Wednesday uh the mayor um [1:33:31] did the swearing in for for all of those youth council and uh so we're excited [1:33:37] for them. Um as Caroli mentioned uh there's Sky View had their homecoming uh [1:33:43] parade kind of during our meeting and so normally we would have um someone from [1:33:49] the youth council here to kind of tell what's going on. Uh but since they [1:33:53] weren't able to be here, um I'll just read you some information that uh Lily [1:33:59] King wrote up. She said, "Uh we started off our year with an executive training [1:34:04] in the summer where we planned events and did some team building activities. [1:34:09] We also had our opening social with everyone in the council which was a [1:34:13] success with great attendance. Last Wednesday, we had our swearing in [1:34:18] ceremony by Mayor Erin Rudy and were able to review our upcoming activities [1:34:23] and events happening. In a few weeks, we will have our teddy bear picnic taking [1:34:28] place on the 26th of September. And in October, we will be helping at the [1:34:33] Trickor Treat Street event. And these youth get involved in in [1:34:38] helping some of these uh different events um throughout the year. They do a [1:34:43] great job. Um, we're excited for for them. Um, and then, uh, [1:34:50] in addition to the youth, we have the other young seniors, um, that I got a [1:34:55] chance to go visit, uh, Tuesday. They're back to their they're back to their uh, [1:35:00] weekly meetings um, in the summer. They usually take a little bit of a break and [1:35:04] only meet twice a month, but now they're back to meeting um, each Tuesday for [1:35:09] lunch and for entertainment. So, last Tuesday, we had some awesome [1:35:14] entertainment. Um, we had the one and only Mr. Justin Lewis [1:35:20] come and answer questions. And, uh, he had them all rolling on the floor. They [1:35:25] were all happy and excited and and he answered all their questions for as much [1:35:29] time as we had. I think they probably still had some questions we didn't get [1:35:33] time to answer, but anyways, appreciated Justin keeping them entertained. But uh [1:35:40] and I'm I'm very appreciative of these of these young seniors that um [1:35:45] volunteer. It's pretty cool that they they they spend a lot of time. You can [1:35:50] tell that they're committed. There's a lot of them that volunteer and help out [1:35:53] in different aspects of that. And it is just so amazing to see how well it's [1:35:58] run. Um nobody's getting paid to do anything there. And yet they they come [1:36:03] up with these great meals and uh great entertainment. Um I'm not sure how much [1:36:08] they paid Justin to be there, but you know, expensive entertainment, right? [1:36:13] Anyways, um and then um just wanted to mention uh as kind of was mentioned a [1:36:20] little earlier, we had our community planning engagement committee yesterday [1:36:24] meeting and uh working with uh obviously getting ready for USU coming up on the [1:36:30] 23rd. Um we're excited about that. And and in addition to that, um thanks Jeff [1:36:37] and Linda for all that you're doing um with that rock building. That's part of [1:36:42] our envisioning of our Main Street Utah, which you know, now we're the tier one [1:36:49] uh Main Street Utah um city uh here in Smithfield. We're we're a part of that [1:36:55] program. And uh one of the things that we're doing or we've committed to do as [1:37:00] a part of that is to create four different committees. that follow the [1:37:04] the different areas um organization promotion design and uh design and [1:37:11] economic vitality. So, we're going to be reaching out to uh different residents [1:37:16] uh and also people who already serve on some committees here on the city uh that [1:37:22] that may have some expertise and and have some uh some knowledge that would [1:37:27] be able to help us on these committees. So, we're we're excited for that and and [1:37:32] getting involved with that. And then we'll also have uh the director of Main [1:37:35] Street Utah there on the 23rd. So, we're hoping with with those with that with [1:37:40] USU helping us kind of get a vision of Smithfield that we're going to do some [1:37:45] great things uh for for making Smithfield [1:37:49] uh keeping it the small town feel that we want to have and um helping uh plan [1:37:55] for the future. I mean, that's kind of a big big thing to accomplish, but [1:38:00] anyways, that's all I've got. Thank you. >> Thanks, Chris. Jen, [1:38:06] » I don't have a whole lot of updates since the royalty is done. And then we [1:38:09] have a arts council meeting next Monday. So, there might be updates after that, [1:38:13] but as of right now, I really don't have a whole lot to update. The arts council [1:38:16] is just planning the historic book festival right now. Got all their [1:38:20] subcommittees going and they're excited. >> It's pretty awesome. [1:38:24] » Yeah, it's going to be good. got bigger every year. So [1:38:28] » that's all I have. >> Thank you. Uh from my side, I just I [1:38:33] want to uh thirdly comment on the sidewalk and how good that's looking [1:38:38] down there with Sky View and uh stopped the other day and talked with Clay [1:38:43] working on that co on the bridge which is I think significantly ahead of what [1:38:48] we're original. So I'm excited about that. They're going to be able to have [1:38:52] that in you know hopefully before the snow flies. We We don't want that early [1:38:56] of snow. We want snow this year, but not that early. So, grateful to that. That's [1:39:02] that's just really looking great down there. Um, as far as uh getting back to [1:39:08] the historic society to want to just thank Jeff for all the efforts that he's [1:39:13] been putting into there. So excited about the opportunity we had to get that [1:39:18] 20,000 um CLG grant because that that's just really really going to help us out [1:39:24] on that. And that goes to a lot of his efforts in being able to get that. Um, [1:39:29] as far as the tree committee, we've kind of had a summer off. Um, and uh, with [1:39:35] few people recovering from travel and a few other things, we our next meeting is [1:39:39] not now scheduled until the 6th of uh, of October. But that doesn't mean that [1:39:45] things haven't been happening there. Um, Chris has actually been heavily involved [1:39:49] in helping to um, go through and make a uh, much more editable tree inventory [1:39:57] list of the city, which I think will be great for the tree committee to be able [1:40:01] to have and have that on there. Not only thanks to him, but also to Jack, to [1:40:05] Mayor Murray. They've done great work in really organizing and being able to do [1:40:11] that. And in addition to that, the opportunity that we had to apply for the [1:40:16] Utah Community Forest um partnership grant um which is another uh $20,000 [1:40:24] grant that uh that we have applied for. Do you know when we hear anything on [1:40:30] that, Justin? Do you have the time frame on that? Okay. I know there's a lot of [1:40:34] effort putting things together, figuring out where our inind match could be for [1:40:40] that and you know obviously we've well exceeded what that match would have to [1:40:45] be contemplating on that. So we really are caring about the trees. I know trees [1:40:51] have been a concern in the city. Um, and there's certainly a lot of effort going [1:40:58] into making sure that we live up to everything that we need to be able to [1:41:03] live up to being a uh a Tree City USA and the Tree Committee is committed to [1:41:09] that. I did want to mention that uh we just had a a resignation out of the tree [1:41:15] committee. Uh Nick Reel would uh like to um recognize him even though he was only [1:41:22] in for a short amount of time. He's had some other commitments that have come up [1:41:26] that require him to be able to step down from that. And so we will be looking at [1:41:31] uh replacing his position on the tree committee at that time. So [1:41:38] that's all I've got uh to report as well. So, and we don't have a mayor's [1:41:45] report tonight. So, if there's uh nothing else from the group up here, I'd [1:41:52] take a motion for adjournment. So moved.