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Good evening and welcome to the March

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9th, 2026 city council regular meeting.

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Thank you for joining us. Um I'm uh

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Mayor Mayhew and I'll be presiding

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tonight. Deputy City Clerk, please call

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the role.

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» Thank you, Mayor. Council member Murphy

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» Here. Council member Watson

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» Here.

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» Council member Holloway

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» Here.

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» Council member Washington

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» Here. Council member Cotton

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» Present.

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» Council member Christensen

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» Here.

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» Council member Johnson

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» Here.

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» All present uh and accounted for. Um

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please stand and join me in the pledge

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of allegiance. Council member Cotton,

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will you please lead the pledge of

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allegiance?

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I pledge algiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands. One

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nation,

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indivisible, liberty and justice for

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all.

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Is there a motion to approve the agenda?

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» Some moved.

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» Second.

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» U moved by Council Member Johnson and

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seconded by Council Member Holloway. Um

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is there any discussion?

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» Point of order.

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» Uh state your point.

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» Um we have a question.

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» State your point of order. point of

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border is that there's a question from a

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council member.

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» Sorry, we're calling for any discussion

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on the agenda.

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» Yes, I'd like to make an amendment to

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the agenda.

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» Now would be the time. Council member

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Cotton.

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» Yes.

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Um

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uh yes, I'd like to uh make an amendment

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um uh that would uh in effect be open a

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line of discussion uh which would be

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fine after the uh uh FNA's

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um discussion on uh uh later in the

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program. Um with regards to uh

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resolution number 1452,

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rules of procedure of the city council

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um to open some discussion under uh

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specifically rules five, six, and seven.

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Um just to bring some information to

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light.

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» Is there a second?

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» Second.

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» A really technical thing. I think you

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mean resolution 1542.

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» 1542. Did I get my numbers mixed up? Am

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I dyslexic?

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» All right. Sorry. And uh which council

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member seconded that?

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» I did and somebody.

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» Council member Murphy. Uh moved by

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Council Member Cotton, seconded by

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Council Member Murphy to add a

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discussion in Finance and Administration

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Committee of

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Resolution

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1542

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uh sections 5,6 and 7. Any discussion?

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Council Minister Johnson.

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» Uh yeah, I'm curious uh if that's

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something that um they would be

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recommend for an executive session or

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not.

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» Um I think it depends

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answer. I think it's going to depend on

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where we're going with the conversation.

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So, if I could um defer till later in

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the evening.

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» Council member Holloway.

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» Would this come under FNA or would this

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come under committee the hall?

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» It didn't come up through FNA.

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» No, it's I I said after the FNA

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» I'm just replying back to what the mayor

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» All right. So to clarify, this would be

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an item under committee of the whole

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uh discussion of resolution 1542

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sections 5,6 and 7. Is that correct,

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Council Member Cotton?

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» That is correct, sir.

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» Any further discussion?

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» Uh, Council Member Johnson, just to

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clarify, this is on the little dinosaur.

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» That's correct.

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» All right. All those in favor of the

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» Chair.

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» Uh, sorry. Council member Holloway,

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» Can I get what are the bullet points

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under those sections to be discussed?

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» Council member Cotton

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» Specifically um under rule five. There's

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some um uh uh reports that um that I'm

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not aware of council ever receiving that

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are supposed to be included in our

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agenda packets.

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um council pending business lists um

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council meeting follow-up reports under

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rule six and rule seven. This is the has

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to do with the um roles and

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responsibilities of of committee

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chairpersons and department heads.

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Council member Christensen,

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» Could I just make a request if anyone's

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able to send a copy or put that just so

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that I can look at it or we can pull it

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up on the screen. That would help me a

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little bit because I don't know where it

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is off the top of my head. I know I have

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it in binder somewhere at home, but

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that's not going to help me at this

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moment.

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» I I have an advantage you don't have. I

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have people on either side of me looking

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it up as we're talking. Uh yes, we'll uh

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looks like we'll get No, no, no. Let's

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send it out. I Sorry. Were you wanting

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to discuss that now?

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» No, I'm I'm just making a request so

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that when we get to it, I I can look at

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it because I don't know if I see

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» The Okay, we'll get that done.

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» Thank you.

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» All right. Any further discussion of the

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motion to add an item under committee of

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the whole.

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Okay. Uh see no further discussion. All

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those in favor of adding the agenda item

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under committee of the whole say I.

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» I. Those opposed say nay. Motion

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carries. Any further discussion of the

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agenda? Council member Johnson move to

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add recognition of service under

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proclamations

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uh following the presentation uh from

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the state auditor's office.

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» Is there a second?

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» Second.

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» Second by council member Cotton. moved

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by council member Johnson to add service

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recognition of service as an item under

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uh uh after the presentation by the

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state auditor's office. Any discussion?

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Hearing none. All those in favor say I.

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» Those opposed? Nay. The me motion is

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passes and the agenda proposed agenda is

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so amended. Any further discussion of

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the agenda?

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Seeing none. Those in favor of um

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approving the agenda as amended say I.

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» Those opposed say nay.

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Agenda as amended is approved.

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» So this evening um we have members from

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the Washington State Auditor's office um

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here for the city's exit conference on

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their audit for fiscal year 2024.

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welcome to our guests and uh we will

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turn the floor over to you for your

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presentation.

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» All right. So before they begin, I'm

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going to kick it off. Um I'd like to

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take a moment to welcome the state

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auditor's office to the city of Swami

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for our fiscal year 2024 exit

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conference. Uh specifically, I'd like to

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recognize from the SEO Adams, the

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audit manager, June Lee, the assistant

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audit manager, and Zach Schultz, the

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audit lead. Over the past four months,

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the SEO has diligently conducted a

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fiscal year 2024 audit of the city's

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financial statements,

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uh, important areas of financial control

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and our compliance with the Corona virus

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trade and local fiscal recovery fund

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program requirements. Certainly is a

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mouthful. Now, following this exit

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conference, in the days ahead, the SEO

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will publish three separate reports on

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their website. This includes an

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accountability audit report, financial

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statements audit report, a report on

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compliance with Corona virus state and

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local fiscal recovery funds program

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requirements, and it's important to know

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that the effort the SAO has put into

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conducting the audit and staff has put

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into facilitating the audit is to not

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mandatorily check a box. It really is

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far more important than that. These

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audits represent a powerful tool that

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can help the city identify

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vulnerabilities, enhance accountability,

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ensure transparency, and build public

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trust and confidence in the management

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of the city's common resources. All this

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work the SEO pours independently into an

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audit and the audit opinions produced

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can signal financial health and a

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precautionary vigilance which can help

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cities such as ours negotiate better

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interest rates and earn community

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confidence. and we can't thank the SAO

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enough for their hard work. Um, so with

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that said, I'd like to invite Adams

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up uh to present the city's fiscal year

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2024 audit results. Thank you.

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» All right, thank you. Yes, my name is

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Adams. I'm the audit manager and

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I'm with Zach Shelton who was the audit

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lead and then June Lee who was the

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supervisor as well on the audit. And

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then we have provided you a packet of

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information. So that does include the

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copy of the draft audit reports that'll

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be issued and then also um the exit

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conference document for today as well.

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So with that I'll get over to Zach and

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he'll go over the results of the audit.

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» All right, thanks All right, so if

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everyone will pull out your packet and

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we'll start with that first page there

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um where it says office of the

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Washington state auditor. Um so this is

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our exit conference of the city of

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Snowqualami as was stated. So we have

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three different reports that we are

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publishing and so I wanted to go through

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the three really quickly and then we'll

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go through in each detail. So the first

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is the accountability audit and that was

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for January 1, 2024 through December 31,

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2024. There's also the financial

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statement audit of that same period

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January 1 through December 31, 2024. And

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then the report on compliance with

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coronavirus state and local fiscal

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recovery funds program requirements for

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the same period of January 1, 2024

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through December 31, 2024. So I'll start

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by going to page seven. So if you look

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in the middle um the at the bottom, the

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page number is page seven. There's two

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different page numbers, but page seven

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and it says audit results and results in

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brief. So that's the first one we'll be

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looking at. Perfect.

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And so the this report describes the

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overall results and conclusions for the

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areas that we've examined, which we'll

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go through a little bit today. Um but in

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in keeping with general audit practices,

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we don't examine every transaction

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activity, policy, internal control, or

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area. Um but we wanted to state that the

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city complied in all material respects

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with applicable state laws, regulations,

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its own policies and provided adequate

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controls over the safeguarding of public

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resources. So then looking down at about

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the audit, um we completed a risk

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assessment for the year ended December

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31st, 2024 and then we examined the

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following areas during the audit period.

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about these today and the testing that

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we did for those. So for the police

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department with the evidence room, we

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worked closely with the police

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department to review evidence to ensure

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that it was being kept correctly, it was

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being adequately tracked, and that they

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were able to um basically show us pieces

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of evidence that we requested.

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Additionally, we also reviewed tracking

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and monitoring of thefts sensitive

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assets such as computers, tools, and

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equipment. So we worked with several

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departments in the city to look at a

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list of assets that they had and then we

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would review those assets in real time

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to make sure that they existed and they

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were tracked correctly. We also reviewed

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surplus equipment with dis disposition

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and receipt of sales proceeds. So we

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worked closely with the IT department to

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make sure that the city is tracking the

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disposition of assets properly and

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receipts of those sales. And then

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additionally for all uh local

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governments we also review open public

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meetings compliance with minutes

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meetings and executive session

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requirements and part of that is

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reviewing the minutes. And then

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additionally we review financial

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condition in reviewing for indications

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of financial distress. So I always like

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to put a plug in there for the financial

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condition that we have a really great

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tool called the financial intelligence

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tool. Um and it's on our website at

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seao.wah.gov of and that's a great place

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to see um the financial health of your

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city, but also to be able to compare

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your city to cities across the state. Um

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and so that's a great tool to be able to

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go in and see each fund and kind of

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track that as well as again like I said

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see results from other states as well or

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other cities.

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All right. And so next we're going to

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move to the next report which is the

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financial statement audit report. And so

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that is going to start on page 14 of

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your packet. And so like I said, it's 14

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in the middle at the bottom. And so the

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first one is the report on internal

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control over financial reporting and on

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compliance. And so we've audited in

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accordance with auditing standards for

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generally accepted in the United States

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of America. And we issued an unmodified

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opinion on the fair presentation of the

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city's financial statements in

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accordance with its regulatory basis of

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accounting. So unmodified is the opinion

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that you want to receive and it provides

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assurance that the financial statements

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are fairly stated and are materially

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correct. And so in addition, we also

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report on internal control over

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financial reporting. And if you turn

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over to the next page on page 15, um we

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are required to alert you of any

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deficiencies in internal controls. Um

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but we're pleased to report that we did

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not identify any deficiencies in

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internal controls that we consider to be

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a material weakness.

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And then additionally um it's important

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to note that uh we have ensure that

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their city's financial statements are

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free from material misstatement. And so

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we perform tests of its compliance with

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certain provisions of laws, regulations,

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contracts, and grant agreements where

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non-compliance could have a direct and

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material effect on the financial

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statements. But again, our opinion, um,

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we do not express, um, any instances of

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non-compliance or other matters that are

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required to be reported under government

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auditing standards.

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And so now we're flipping that page

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again and we're going to page 17 now.

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And so this is the report on the audit

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of the financial statements themselves.

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And so on page 17, you'll see the report

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on the audit of the financial

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statements. So we've audited the

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financial statements like I said for

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that year of ending December 31st 2024

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and then we also have an unmodified

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opinion on the regulatory basis of

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accounting or the bars manual. So again

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that unmodified opinion is what you want

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to receive and again it provides support

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to know that your financial statements

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are fairly stated and are materially

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correct.

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And then moving forward to page 18 as

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well. Um management's responsible for

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preparing the fair presentation of the

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financial statements and that includes

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determining the basis of accounting and

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then preparing the financial statements.

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Uh we're required to evaluate certain

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risks that we may bring to your

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attention. Um and so there is a risk

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that management has the ability to

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circumvent certain controls. Um but

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we're pleased to report that we noted no

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instances where management was able to

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circumvent certain controls there.

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All right. And then lastly, we have one

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more thing we want to bring to your

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attention with the report. Um, we have

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the report on compliance with Corona

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virus state and local fiscal recovery

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fund program requirements. Again, it's a

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pretty long one. Um, so we're going to

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go to page 25 for that one.

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And I'll give Drew a chance to go all

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the way down.

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Perfect. And so we examined the city of

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Snowquami's compliance with these

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compliance requirements for activities

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allowed or unallowed and also for

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allowable costs and cost principles with

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this federal funding. And so recipients

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um would otherwise be required to

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undergo a single audit or a program

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specific audit, but in this case um they

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were able to do an attestation or in

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this case the um independent audit. And

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so um management is responsible for the

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city's compliance with the specified

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requirements and then our responsibility

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is to express an opinion over the city's

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compliance. And so um we will see that

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um our examination um does not provide a

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legal determination of the city's

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compliance with specified requirements.

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that in our opinion the city of

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Snowqualami complied in all material

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respects with the affformentioned

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requirements during the period January

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1, 2024 through December 31, 2024.

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All right. And then lastly, I also

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wanted to turn your attention to the

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very last page that we have as well on

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the very back, page 34. We wanted to

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talk really quickly about uh summary of

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uncorrected items. Um and so we have one

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uncorrected misstatement on the

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financial statements that we wanted to

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talk about. Um first we um believe that

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these uncorrected misstatements are not

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material in nature. Um and we are off

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also confident that management will

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correct these in the following audit. Um

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but this is regarding the compensated

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absences liability. Um as the city did

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not properly implementate or implement

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major bars changes for new requirements

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in determining the valuation of

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compensated absences liability. Um this

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was a year of bars implementation for

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compensated absences and so the city was

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required to evaluate the likelihood that

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leave will be used and paid according to

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historical use among other requirements.

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So again, just wanted to put that out

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there that again, we don't expect these

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to be material. And then again, we

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expect we would expect management to

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correct these in the following um audit.

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And so before we go over to June for a

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few more closing remarks, were there any

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questions over the reports that I just

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went through at all?

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No. Perfect. Okay. Before I turn it over

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to June, just wanted to highlight the

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audit highlights. Um, and so I just

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wanted to say thank you first to city

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staff and council um, for your

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consistent communication and your

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dedication to the audit process. It does

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not go unnoticed. Um, but then in

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particular, we also really want to thank

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Drew, Jennifer, Kyla, and an for their

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commitment to providing audit requests

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in a timely manner resulting in an

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efficient audit. Um, they did a

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basically a back-toback audit. um and

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they were more than happy to continue to

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provide us support and um just constant

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communication which was really great for

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us. So I'm going to turn it over to June

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really quickly for a few more closing

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remarks.

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» All right. Um okay. So, with our

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official closing of this audit tonight,

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um all of the reports that Zach just

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covered will be issued in about a week.

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Um you'll get a notification email once

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those reports are posted on our website.

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So, let me clarify you, meaning Drew and

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um Jen, so you you won't be bothered

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with all of those emails. Um at the same

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time, you will receive an audit survey.

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Um we love to hear from you um on things

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that you like or don't like about the

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audit and how we can do better next

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time. Um so any feedback is much

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appreciated.

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Um also since we perform an attestation

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and we'll issue a report on the

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compliance of recovery fund

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expenditures, we will send you a

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reminder email with instructions um on

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how to submit the report to the US

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Department of Treasury.

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So, we were able to complete this audit

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within budget. Um, the final audit cost

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approximate um what we quoted at the

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beginning of this engagement. Your next

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audit for fiscal year 2025 is scheduled

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later this year around October or

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November. Um, it will cover both the

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accountability and financial statement

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sections. Um, so if you spend more than

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$1 million in federal funds, um, we

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would like to know as soon as possible.

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Um so just to mention that the 1 million

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is the new threshold that um kickstarts

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a single audit. So if a single audit is

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required then we need to reconsider the

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timing of your next audit so that we can

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meet your federal deadline.

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So um before we finish up here um just

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one more reminder that there are some

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complimentary services that we offer to

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our clients.

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» Um so help is available if you need it.

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Um I'll just name a few examples. Our

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local government support team provides a

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um onetoone technical assistance. Um

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answers questions on the latest

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accounting and auditing uh topics. And

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this team also assists on all of those

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um annual uh report filings.

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And then our center for government

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innovation team offers lean services,

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cyber checkups, and some helpful tools

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and checklists from the resource

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library. So if you need to find out more

554
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:41,360
information um definitely go visit our

555
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:45,039
website for a full list of those

556
00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:47,679
services and that's sao.wah.gov.

557
00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:49,600
And at this time um I would like to ask

558
00:21:47,679 --> 00:21:52,320
if you have any questions for us to

559
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,799
answer. If I could just ask uh for the

560
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:58,080
benefit of those here and those watching

561
00:21:54,799 --> 00:21:59,840
our residents, uh we'll be posting the

562
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,480
results of the audit on our website, but

563
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:04,720
if they wish to see the results directly

564
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:07,360
at the state auditor's website, where

565
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:09,440
would they go to see those results?

566
00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:12,440
» Um it it's the same website. It's the

567
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,440
www.sao.wah

568
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,360
and then you just um put in city of

569
00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:18,640
snowquami and then search the report and

570
00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:20,559
it should find it.

571
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,240
» Great. And when do you expect those will

572
00:22:20,559 --> 00:22:23,520
be up? Maybe it'll be at least a week

573
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,120
till it's finalized.

574
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,919
» About a week.

575
00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:29,559
» Great.

576
00:22:25,919 --> 00:22:29,559
» Any questions, council?

577
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,360
» All right.

578
00:22:31,679 --> 00:22:37,039
» Thank you all very much for the great

579
00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:38,400
service um with the audit and um for

580
00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:40,640
turning up tonight and and telling us

581
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,240
about the results. Thank you very much.

582
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,960
» All right. So, I'm just going to have

583
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,880
some concluding statements. Uh this work

584
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,640
between us and the SEO concludes

585
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,280
approximately 20 months of almost

586
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:54,159
straight catchup effort uh from both the

587
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,919
SAO and staff which has culminated in uh

588
00:22:54,159 --> 00:22:59,280
12 published reports representing the

589
00:22:55,919 --> 00:23:01,280
years 2021 through 2024. And really this

590
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,919
is a fantastic accomplishment for both

591
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,360
the SAO and the city. Um and with that

592
00:23:03,919 --> 00:23:06,799
I'd like to just kind of take a moment

593
00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:09,120
to recognize the finance department

594
00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:11,200
staff back here. We have Jen Hughes, our

595
00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:13,360
deputy finance director, Kyla Henderson,

596
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,120
senior accountant, and Bcker,

597
00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:17,679
accountant, and the rest of the finance

598
00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:19,520
team that isn't here tonight for their

599
00:23:17,679 --> 00:23:21,440
facilitation of the audit. They've

600
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,960
simply been amazing uh throughout this

601
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,960
entire process, and I can't thank them

602
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,240
enough for that effort. And just to

603
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,760
finish really quickly, the finance

604
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,480
department intends to continue the good

605
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:32,880
work shared here today by remaining

606
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,880
devoted and vigilant in evolving our

607
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,280
systems, policies, and procedures. And I

608
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,039
know with this team, with this mayor, we

609
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:42,480
certainly will. So, thank you and

610
00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:44,640
appreciate your time, council.

611
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,960
» So, to the staff on behalf of the whole

612
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,799
city, thank you for the work. I know an

613
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,679
audit is on top of all the work that you

614
00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:53,360
have to do every day. Um, and uh, thank

615
00:23:51,679 --> 00:23:54,720
you so much for getting us uh,

616
00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:56,159
successfully through the audit and all

617
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:59,320
the work you do every day in support of

618
00:23:56,159 --> 00:23:59,320
the city

619
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:11,400
council. Any comments or questions?

620
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,400
All right.

621
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:24,080
Uh moving on to the next item which is

622
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:28,320
service recognition. Um it's uh with

623
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:30,720
very mixed emotions uh tonight that I um

624
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:34,080
uh have a service recognition uh

625
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:37,120
presentation to make. Um Council Member

626
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:41,440
Cara Christensen will be leaving us. She

627
00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:44,720
is embarking on a new sort of uh time of

628
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:48,000
her life. Her family's moving to London.

629
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:50,480
um and uh wish her nothing but the best.

630
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:53,279
But uh it's it's also our loss. She's

631
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:56,080
been a fantastic council member. And um

632
00:24:53,279 --> 00:24:58,320
I just like to read the um the plaque

633
00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:01,200
that we're going to award her tonight.

634
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,559
It says um council member Cara

635
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,600
Christensen was appointed to the

636
00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:09,919
Snowqualami City Council in September of

637
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:12,000
2021 and elected in 2023.

638
00:25:09,919 --> 00:25:14,159
She served the community through her

639
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:17,440
leadership, dedication, and financial

640
00:25:14,159 --> 00:25:19,840
expertise until her term ended in March

641
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,279
2026.

642
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:24,320
On behalf of the residents of

643
00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:26,080
Snowqualami with sincere gratitude, this

644
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:29,600
recognition is presented to Cara

645
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:31,039
Christensen on it's dated the day of her

646
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,840
last service, which is a week from

647
00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:36,159
today, uh dated on this 16th day of

648
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:39,320
March, 2026.

649
00:25:36,159 --> 00:25:39,320
Thank you.

650
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,080
Tell you what, how about we go on that

651
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:59,320
side and take a picture with Council

652
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,320
Member Christensen.

653
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,440
You guys all get to come up in a sec.

654
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,080
Come on.

655
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:07,760
note to self that's a little bit hard to

656
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:10,240
read and um keep your voice steady.

657
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:13,120
Okay. Uh next on the agenda is public

658
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:15,200
comment. Now, uh, for those who wish to

659
00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:17,279
make public comment tonight, the way we

660
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,480
do public comment in Snowqualami is we

661
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:22,960
have public comment now for items that

662
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,559
are not on the agenda.

663
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,880
If you're here to make public comment

664
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:29,120
for items are on that are on the agenda,

665
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:32,640
for example,

666
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:36,559
the uh

667
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:39,840
the uh several pages later, the

668
00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:42,640
ordinance um on automated traffic safety

669
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,400
cameras that uh we will take public

670
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,279
comment on that when we're ready to take

671
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,840
up that matter, which will be very

672
00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:52,159
shortly from now. But uh this public

673
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,480
comment section would be for those who

674
00:27:52,159 --> 00:27:56,240
wish to make comment on items not on the

675
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,799
agenda. Now we have an electronic

676
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:01,440
signup. So I'll just go through the list

677
00:27:58,799 --> 00:28:03,600
here and ask uh each speaker whether you

678
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:07,120
wish to speak now or whether you wish to

679
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:10,679
speak at the time of that um ordinance

680
00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:10,679
uh being considered.

681
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,720
So I'll start with Eddie Gomez.

682
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,679
Now

683
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,679
» It's Edie. Edie.

684
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,279
All right, Edy, you sorry, Miss Gomez,

685
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:28,559
you'll have three minutes and the um

686
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:30,720
lights there will let you know when

687
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:32,640
we're getting down uh towards the end,

688
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,480
but uh three minutes. If you could

689
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,360
please state your name and city of

690
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:40,000
residence for the record, then go ahead.

691
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:42,960
» My name is Edy Gomez, Snowqual Mey,

692
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:45,440
Washington, Osprey Court. Good evening,

693
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,440
council members. My name is Edie Gomez

694
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,960
and I live on Osprey Courts and I'm here

695
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,480
with my wife ECAT who works for

696
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,320
Starbucks and is currently seeking a

697
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,399
higher paying opportunity. We're proud

698
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:57,440
to call residents and I'm here to share

699
00:28:54,399 --> 00:29:00,080
a cautionary tale. Earlier this year, we

700
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,760
transferred $20,000

701
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,000
um in connection with what we believed

702
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,159
was a legitimate opportunity. These

703
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,720
funds were sent in good faith after

704
00:29:06,159 --> 00:29:10,559
discussions about our participation.

705
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,480
I've been at my job for 10 years and a

706
00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:15,039
single transaction hurt our household

707
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:17,360
budget. After our transfer, the

708
00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:19,120
opportunity did not include us despite

709
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,919
multiple requests to funds have not been

710
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,679
returned. We're now pursuing legal

711
00:29:21,919 --> 00:29:25,679
remedies. Though, as you know, legal

712
00:29:23,679 --> 00:29:28,159
processes are lengthy, expensive, and

713
00:29:25,679 --> 00:29:30,880
offer no guarantee of recovery. Speaking

714
00:29:28,159 --> 00:29:32,799
of unexpected challenges, our cat, a

715
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,880
polyactyl gentleman gentleman with six

716
00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:37,279
toes on each paw, decided this was the

717
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,799
perfect time to require surgery. He acts

718
00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:41,120
more like a dog, which means he has a

719
00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:43,840
loyalty of a golden retriever and a and

720
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:47,360
the veterinary bills to match. I joked

721
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,880
with ECAT that the with 24 toes total,

722
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:52,080
maybe he could get a job and start

723
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:54,000
contributing. So far, he has declined.

724
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,600
» I'm not here asking for sympathy, but

725
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,760
we've learned critical lessons about

726
00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,320
transparency and accountability when

727
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:02,480
people solicit financial contributions.

728
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,960
Here's what I hope others take away.

729
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,120
Always insist on clear written

730
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,279
agreements before transferring funds.

731
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,360
Research, ask questions, ask friends and

732
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:12,880
family. Trust your instincts. If

733
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,039
something feels rushed or someone

734
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,200
discourages independent advice, that's a

735
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:18,720
red flag. Council members, these

736
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,440
situations happen even here in

737
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,360
Snowqualami, even to cautious people. By

738
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:26,240
speaking openly, we might prevent

739
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,840
another family from experiencing this. I

740
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,600
encourage the council to consider

741
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,520
promoting financial literacy on this

742
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,760
topic in our community. Perhaps

743
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,520
resources on the on the city website or

744
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,000
workshops on protecting against

745
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,399
financial exploitation. Small steps

746
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,640
toward education can have significant

747
00:30:40,399 --> 00:30:45,440
protective effects. Thank you for your

748
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,960
time and service to our community. I

749
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,799
look forward to running for mayor to

750
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,200
help protect fraud victims and victims

751
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:54,399
of scams someday and continuing to serve

752
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:56,320
Snowquali in whatever capacity I can.

753
00:30:54,399 --> 00:30:59,840
And if anyone knows about a job opening

754
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,840
for a cat, please let me know.

755
00:30:59,919 --> 00:31:03,559
Thank you, Miss Gomez.

756
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:11,480
Su Ga, do you wish to speak now or? Yep.

757
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,679
» Three minutes isn't very long. I'm

758
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,039
Subalo. I live in Snowqualami on

759
00:31:15,679 --> 00:31:20,000
Snowqualami Ridge and I'm here to

760
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:23,279
express deep concerns about this uh

761
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,960
Cascade Ridge battery storage facility

762
00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:27,039
and all I don't know how many of you are

763
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:31,600
aware of it. It's on the ridge. There's

764
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:34,960
45 acres proposed just south of the um

765
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,960
Forest Creek Fisher Creek Park. I live

766
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,880
just below that. It butts up right

767
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:42,240
against the snowcom trail systems that

768
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:44,880
are up in there. It's in by trails,

769
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:47,120
parks, wildlife habitat, wetlands, and

770
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,039
surrounded by forests that run most of

771
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,760
the way down to Snowquali. Those forests

772
00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:53,519
with houses in between. Um, when I look

773
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,360
at other sites like this around the

774
00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:56,720
country, this is battery storage which

775
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,440
we're going to have to have in our

776
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,360
country. They are in open flat lands.

777
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:04,240
And you look at aerial photos and there

778
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:06,880
is nothing near them for a reason. These

779
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,559
have extreme danger of fires and

780
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,320
explosions.

781
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:12,159
They've been going less frequently than

782
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,559
they used to be. But when they happen,

783
00:32:12,159 --> 00:32:16,640
they have runaway fires that these bad

784
00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:18,080
lithium ion batteries, you don't just

785
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,159
put them out. They have to burn

786
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,960
themselves out. And if we were to have

787
00:32:20,159 --> 00:32:25,279
an explosion of this facility up there,

788
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,519
there's toxic gases that would go into

789
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:29,600
the community, go out, you've got

790
00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:32,880
hydrogen fluoride, fluoride, carbon

791
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:35,600
monoxide, hydrogen cyanide, which is all

792
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:38,559
dangerous to all of us in the wildlife.

793
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:41,039
The materials they use to diffuse and

794
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:44,000
cool down these batteries as they burn

795
00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:46,159
down takes time because otherwise it

796
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,679
increases the risk of an explosion. that

797
00:32:46,159 --> 00:32:49,360
heavy metals then get into the

798
00:32:47,679 --> 00:32:51,760
groundwater which then come down into

799
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:54,720
snow quality. Now, while this is up on

800
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:56,640
the ridge and deeply sensitive to all of

801
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,840
us who live around it with an immediate

802
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:03,279
fire, there's businesses, there's this

803
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:04,480
uh what is it? Mount Sai, whatever the

804
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:05,519
elementary school up there. I don't have

805
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,880
kids in there. I can't remember the name

806
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:12,159
of it, but it's there on the King County

807
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:14,720
site. This area is designated uh what is

808
00:33:12,159 --> 00:33:17,200
it? RA 2.5,

809
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,120
I quote off their site, rural area

810
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,840
designation in unincorporated King

811
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:24,799
County that allows one residential unit

812
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:26,399
for 2 and a half to 10 acres aimed at

813
00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:29,120
maintaining rural character,

814
00:33:26,399 --> 00:33:31,200
agriculture, and open spaces.

815
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,960
Quote unquote, and they want to put this

816
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,799
battery storage thing in there. I am

817
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,200
terrified of these fires. It requires

818
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:39,840
special equipment, special training.

819
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,600
Apparently, Seattle Fire Department has

820
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:44,399
a trained crew for that, which doesn't

821
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:47,039
do us a lot of good unless we get

822
00:33:44,399 --> 00:33:48,559
training here. What do we know about

823
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:50,080
what's going to be trained for our local

824
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:51,840
firefighters? Who's going to pay for

825
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,480
that? How does that happen? And what's

826
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,720
the risk? Very concerned. There's been

827
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,240
several fires, California, Arizona,

828
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,720
while they're not as frequent as they

829
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,880
used to. As security, safety of them

830
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,279
gets better.

831
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:08,480
They have to close down. People have to

832
00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:09,839
evacuate. lock, you know, reside in I

833
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,919
can't think of the words for it. Reside

834
00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:15,919
in space. Close down all ventilation

835
00:34:11,919 --> 00:34:19,440
systems. There's a school.

836
00:34:15,919 --> 00:34:21,599
I can't say it all, but my request is

837
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:24,560
that you guys as a committee would help

838
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:27,760
us get all the information. Eight days

839
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:29,839
from today, I just got in the mail.

840
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:32,480
Eight days from now, the company doing

841
00:34:29,839 --> 00:34:34,320
this has offered a public meeting. You

842
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,760
could conclude your remarks. Thank you

843
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,760
very much, Miss Briette.

844
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:47,560
Vanny Albert.

845
00:34:47,839 --> 00:34:53,599
» Hi, good evening everyone. I'm here to

846
00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:57,920
talk on the same topic of the Cascadia

847
00:34:53,599 --> 00:35:00,480
Ridge resilience energy storage. Uh so

848
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:04,160
why do we oppose uh taking lithium

849
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:07,520
batteries in the plane? We know that and

850
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:09,839
the same is why I am here to say that

851
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:12,640
this is at a very close proximity to the

852
00:35:09,839 --> 00:35:15,599
school. Many of us go out of this place

853
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:18,160
to work and by the time we come home we

854
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:21,119
think our kids are safe. The plan that

855
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:24,240
we we are we are going to have nearby is

856
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:27,760
closer to the residential property. Uh

857
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:30,640
it's closer to the uh electricity line

858
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:34,160
and on top of that our kids are are at

859
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:37,280
risk here. So as Sue mentioned there is

860
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:39,920
lot of um chemical hazard on this. I'm a

861
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,920
chemistry student and I know that um

862
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,280
even when we handle it in the lab we

863
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:48,400
have to be very careful about the

864
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:52,079
lithium. That said, um the the we stay

865
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:55,839
in a place where it rains and lithium

866
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:58,720
gas easily combines with hydrogen which

867
00:35:55,839 --> 00:36:00,160
means there is there the amount of fumes

868
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:03,760
that you're going to get is more

869
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:06,160
hazardous and um

870
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,800
talking about the hazard and talking

871
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,960
about the affordability.

872
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,040
uh coming to the home insurance.

873
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,920
anything near to this plant is really

874
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:19,280
going to spike our insurance and many do

875
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:22,240
not approve when we are nearby which is

876
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:26,480
a huge cost on our cost of living and I

877
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:29,839
would um kindly ask you all to also

878
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:32,320
consider the noise that will be impacted

879
00:36:29,839 --> 00:36:37,359
from this facility which is like 70 to

880
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:40,720
92 decibb coming 24/7 to keep it at a

881
00:36:37,359 --> 00:36:43,680
cooling uh pace. So um with many other

882
00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:46,240
factors coming to the environment hazard

883
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,720
uh to our kids and especially with the

884
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:51,359
evacuation route the cascade view is

885
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:54,000
really close to the place and it is like

886
00:36:51,359 --> 00:36:55,520
a grid either you have to come on to the

887
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,640
fair view or you have to go through the

888
00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:01,359
central if something happens. So um we

889
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:05,119
are going out thinking that our city is

890
00:37:01,359 --> 00:37:07,200
taking care of us our kids and um I'm

891
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:09,280
not in a position that this plan should

892
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,760
not come. I do not want it to come near

893
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,720
to our residential places. They can move

894
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:17,119
it out to somewhere far off where it is

895
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:19,119
safer for them. It can add value to the

896
00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:20,960
business. It can add value to the people

897
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:23,680
around us but not closer to the

898
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:27,320
residential place. Thank you.

899
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,320
» Thank you, Miss Albert.

900
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:37,800
» Uh Andrew Wink,

901
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,800
speak later.

902
00:37:41,359 --> 00:37:44,920
Carissa Wakefield

903
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:49,520
and please state your name and city of

904
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,760
residence uh as you begin your comments.

905
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:56,720
» Cararissa Wakeford, Snowqualami,

906
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:58,320
Washington. I am echoing the um

907
00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:02,000
unpopular

908
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:03,520
um report about the Cascadia Juniper

909
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,599
Power Plant that they're planning on

910
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:08,880
putting here. However, I'd like to add

911
00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:11,440
in a couple other things. Um, posted is

912
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:14,720
the estimated um square mile if there

913
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:18,079
was a fire and it goes all the way down

914
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:21,599
to Fall City, part of Preston and mo

915
00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:24,880
much of North Bend. Um, there's toxic

916
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:28,800
fumes. The noise complaint, I actually

917
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:32,880
have one that is up

918
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:35,520
um, pardon me. Um, I have a video of

919
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:40,480
just the noise. You can kind of hear of

920
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:44,000
the 24/7 noise that is put out from it.

921
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,680
It's not quiet and it's 247

922
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,880
and this is the noise that we have to

923
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:52,240
deal with potentially if we can't fight

924
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:56,160
against this.

925
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:58,720
Um, on March 17th from 5:00 p.m. to 7:30

926
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:01,920
p.m., Juniper Power will be coming to

927
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:05,599
talk about all of how it is safe and it

928
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:07,839
won't impact us. But the fire codes that

929
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:09,839
they that I've read about it is that

930
00:39:07,839 --> 00:39:12,960
they're very difficult to impossible to

931
00:39:09,839 --> 00:39:14,640
actually put out with proper um water

932
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,760
and traditional uses. So, they let it

933
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:20,160
burn out. The last one that had a fire,

934
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,000
it was 11 days that people were forced

935
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:25,599
out of their homes because of the toxic

936
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:29,680
fumes. The ash can spend or uh go for

937
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:34,720
miles and in impact our waterways, our

938
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:37,040
our dirt, our land, our kids. Um I live

939
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:38,720
in Fischer Creek Park where they're

940
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:42,400
going to put it. So, not only will I

941
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:45,520
have a visual reminder of it, but also

942
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,960
the noise complaint. Um, they're saying

943
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,599
that it won't have any nighttime

944
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:52,640
lighting, but I also saw that the amount

945
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:54,880
of traffic and and noise that was from

946
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:58,079
building it and maintaining it. It it

947
00:39:54,880 --> 00:40:00,560
will increase things negatively upon our

948
00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:03,440
community. And I just ask that you

949
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:07,359
please consider um doing what you can to

950
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:09,440
help us out as a city and um as the

951
00:40:07,359 --> 00:40:12,320
Snowqualami Valley to protect the water,

952
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:15,920
our children, our environment. Thank

953
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:17,520
you. Oh, and one more thing. It puts a

954
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,200
strain. They say it was good for

955
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:22,160
electricity, but it puts a strain on our

956
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:24,240
own grid. So, it from everything that

957
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,520
I've read, and and I'm not a scientist,

958
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:27,359
so I don't know for sure, but everything

959
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,760
I've read said it puts a strain on our

960
00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:31,680
own grid, and that's already going to

961
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,240
increase as more people are getting

962
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:37,800
electric cars and whatnot. Thank you.

963
00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:37,800
» Thank you, Miss Wakeford.

964
00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:44,240
It's Jordan, do you wish to speak now or

965
00:40:41,839 --> 00:40:44,240
Yep.

966
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:52,520
Hadley Evers,

967
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,119
Brock Brady,

968
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,400
and please remember to state your name

969
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:05,200
and city of residence.

970
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:09,200
» Thank you. Uh I'm Brock Brady and still

971
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:10,960
Quami is my city of residence. Um, I'm

972
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,160
also up here about the Cascadia project,

973
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,839
but I'm coming at it from a little bit

974
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,800
of a different angle. I'm not opposed to

975
00:41:13,839 --> 00:41:18,560
clean energy. I am opposed putting a

976
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,960
documented fire hazard immediately

977
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:23,599
upstream from my house,

978
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,440
as I think you guys would all be, too.

979
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:26,960
Um,

980
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,280
however,

981
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,800
when you know these, everybody's talked

982
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,160
about how these gases, you know, the

983
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:35,520
gases that get released and everything

984
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:37,760
else, but um, I would like you guys to

985
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,440
consider helping us ask Jupiter some

986
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,839
questions and put some things on the

987
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,440
county record. Um, first, I'd like to

988
00:41:41,839 --> 00:41:45,760
require Jupiter Power to formally

989
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:49,040
evaluate safer tech as a permit

990
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:52,480
condition. long duration energy storage.

991
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:56,000
So the LDES using iron air chemistry

992
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:59,200
produces zero flammable gases

993
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:01,520
cannot enter thermal runaway and poses

994
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,119
zero fire or chemical risk to this

995
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:06,560
wershed.

996
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:08,000
LED Trail, a certified US manufacturer

997
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,760
already embedded with the city of

998
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:13,200
Tacoma, Port of Seattle. they've done

999
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:15,440
some wash dot programs uh or projects

1000
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,440
proactively reached out through this

1001
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,920
very process and offered to connect with

1002
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:22,720
the developer and Jupiter power has not

1003
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:25,440
responded. Uh that non-response should

1004
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:27,760
be on the SBA record.

1005
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:30,400
On the subject of costs, the one big

1006
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:33,599
beautiful bill act did not eliminate the

1007
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:36,560
uh section 48e investment tax credit for

1008
00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:40,319
standalone storage. It's available

1009
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:43,680
through 2032 for any technology. So,

1010
00:42:40,319 --> 00:42:45,680
however, it did create new prohibited

1011
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:48,160
foreign entity restrictions that place

1012
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:50,560
lithium ion supply chains, which run

1013
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:53,520
overwhelmingly through China, under a

1014
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:55,520
serious compliance question. So, this

1015
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:58,079
company LED Trail, their domestic

1016
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,920
manufacturing faces none of that risk

1017
00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:02,880
and qualifies for the full domestic

1018
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:04,960
content bonus credit. the count they you

1019
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,720
really have to remember like require

1020
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:09,359
that Jupiter power to submit a written

1021
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:13,440
tax credit eligibility analysis before

1022
00:43:09,359 --> 00:43:16,400
any permit is issued. So and then third

1023
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,880
um the SEPA review must explicitly model

1024
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:21,760
downstream contamination risk to Fiser

1025
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:23,920
Creek from fire suppression runoff. This

1026
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:26,640
is a known documented risk category and

1027
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:28,319
it must not be glossed over. Um you know

1028
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,839
I moved to Snowquali to be part of a

1029
00:43:28,319 --> 00:43:31,520
community and you being able to be out

1030
00:43:29,839 --> 00:43:34,880
in the green like everybody else. I

1031
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:38,400
think I did not think this would ever

1032
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:41,200
show up. So, I'm all about green energy,

1033
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,880
but let's have a different

1034
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,839
outcome than what these guys are trying

1035
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:48,560
to put together. And it it's going to be

1036
00:43:45,839 --> 00:43:50,880
more cost-effective for them. So, I I

1037
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:53,520
don't I'm not sure why they're not

1038
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:56,000
reaching out, but thank you.

1039
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:59,599
» Thank you, Mr. Brady.

1040
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:03,200
Um, also, uh, council members, as you're

1041
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:05,680
aware, um, uh, public comment, there was

1042
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:09,359
a public comment that was emailed into

1043
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:11,359
the city council, uh, by, uh, Emily

1044
00:44:09,359 --> 00:44:13,680
Anderson. Her comment has been shared

1045
00:44:11,359 --> 00:44:16,000
with the council.

1046
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:18,560
Are there any others uh, who have not

1047
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:21,760
called who would like to speak tonight

1048
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:25,240
uh, during public comment?

1049
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,240
All right. Um,

1050
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:29,760
Sorry, if you could step to the uh

1051
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,280
microphone and uh state your name and

1052
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,400
city of residence and you have three

1053
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,560
minutes.

1054
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,880
» Hi, my name is Emanuel Lewis and I'm

1055
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:39,520
here visiting from Dallas, Texas in

1056
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:43,359
support of my friend Edy Rakan who was

1057
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:45,440
scammed out of uh $20,000. Uh we did

1058
00:44:43,359 --> 00:44:48,319
some research on the lady and found out

1059
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:50,560
she scammed others and uh came down here

1060
00:44:48,319 --> 00:44:52,079
and spoke to Michael Chamblas who

1061
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,000
referred me to the police chief and his

1062
00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:56,400
staff and we were able to file a report

1063
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,319
and I want to thank you for that. That's

1064
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:01,880
all I have to say.

1065
00:44:58,319 --> 00:45:01,880
» Thank you very much.

1066
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:08,560
All right. See no other uh people uh

1067
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:12,240
looking to make comment during public

1068
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:14,560
comment. Public comment is now closed.

1069
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:15,760
Mayor,

1070
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,240
» Council Member Cot.

1071
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:20,880
» Um, I don't know if you had Yeah, and I

1072
00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:23,040
missed it. I I if so, I apologize, but I

1073
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,440
hope you did pass on to the people that

1074
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,760
have submitted written comments that you

1075
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,440
have been forwarding all of those

1076
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:33,119
comments and letters that you folks have

1077
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:36,640
sent in um on to King County Council

1078
00:45:33,119 --> 00:45:40,000
member Sarah Perry um as they will be

1079
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:42,640
holding the public hearings. and uh

1080
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:45,440
since this is this is unincorporated

1081
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:48,560
King County land that will be used for

1082
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:51,119
that. And so um so hopefully you folks

1083
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:53,920
are getting responses back from the King

1084
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:57,440
County Council uh regarding the upcoming

1085
00:45:53,920 --> 00:46:00,560
permitting for uh Cascadia.

1086
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:03,599
» So as as a reminder for all those making

1087
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:05,760
comment or watching uh during public

1088
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:08,000
comment, council does not respond to

1089
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,640
those comments. We listen respectfully.

1090
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:13,760
However, we do take down those comments.

1091
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:16,480
We go back and we um look into those

1092
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,760
comments. Uh as you've seen on other

1093
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,520
comments that have been made here, we

1094
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:23,680
often respond publicly to those

1095
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:25,839
comments. So, um our process is that we

1096
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:28,880
listen tonight and then we'll come back

1097
00:46:25,839 --> 00:46:30,880
with responses later. That's why you're

1098
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,880
not hearing a response tonight from

1099
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,640
council. That's because we take that, we

1100
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,480
give it thought, and then we come back

1101
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,720
with public responses uh where

1102
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,640
appropriate.

1103
00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:42,800
All right, moving on to the consent

1104
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:45,440
agenda.

1105
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,200
Consent agenda tonight contains approval

1106
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:50,400
of the city council meeting minutes

1107
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:52,240
dated February 23rd, 2026

1108
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,880
and approval of the claims report dated

1109
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:56,880
March 9th, 2026.

1110
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,160
Is there a motion to approve the consent

1111
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,960
agenda?

1112
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,800
» So moved. Second.

1113
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:08,160
» Moved by council member Johnson and

1114
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:12,160
seconded by council member Murphy.

1115
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:16,440
Uh is there uh any public comment on the

1116
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,440
items in the consent agenda?

1117
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:21,920
Seeing none, uh council, is there any

1118
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:24,400
discussion of the consent agenda?

1119
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,200
Seeing none, all those in favor say I.

1120
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,520
» I.

1121
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:31,599
» Those opposed say nay.

1122
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:34,240
» The consent agenda is approved.

1123
00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:37,240
Under ordinances, we have agenda bill

1124
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:37,240
26-004,

1125
00:47:37,359 --> 00:47:43,119
ordinance 1316,

1126
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:45,359
adding chapter 10.13, automated traffic

1127
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:48,000
safety cameras to the Snowqualami

1128
00:47:45,359 --> 00:47:52,520
Municipal Code. This is the second

1129
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,520
reading of ordinance 1316.

1130
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,040
moment.

1131
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:10,720
» Would the public safety chair please

1132
00:48:07,839 --> 00:48:14,960
read the introduction and motion?

1133
00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:17,359
» Thank you. This is agenda bill 26-004

1134
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,839
permitting the use of automated traffic

1135
00:48:17,359 --> 00:48:22,960
safety cameras.

1136
00:48:19,839 --> 00:48:25,440
Summary is this. The city of Snowqualami

1137
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:28,640
has seen an increase in speeds on in

1138
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:30,720
school zones. The city proposes adding a

1139
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:33,280
code section permitting the use of

1140
00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:36,319
automated traffic safety cameras to

1141
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:39,280
provide additional resources

1142
00:48:36,319 --> 00:48:43,359
for the safety of our youth and

1143
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:46,480
community. That I move to approve the

1144
00:48:43,359 --> 00:48:50,400
ordinance adopting Snowqualami Municipal

1145
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:54,640
Code Chapter 10. 13 authorizing the use

1146
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:55,520
of automated traffic cameras. Do I have

1147
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,119
» Second?

1148
00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:00,400
» Moved by council member Watton and

1149
00:48:57,119 --> 00:49:05,480
seconded by council member Christensen

1150
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,480
to approve agenda bill 26-004.

1151
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:13,240
Uh so now we'll take public comment on

1152
00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:13,240
this item starting with

1153
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,119
uh Andrew Wink.

1154
00:49:18,319 --> 00:49:21,280
And again, you have three minutes. Uh,

1155
00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:23,200
please state your name and city of

1156
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,040
residence for the record.

1157
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,800
» Andrew Wink. I live in Snowqual Me,

1158
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,720
Washington. Uh, first I wanted to say

1159
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,000
thank you to Council Member Cotton,

1160
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:31,520
Council Member Holloway, and Council

1161
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,599
Member Watton for advancing this to the

1162
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:36,480
full council floor. Uh, I was

1163
00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:38,880
fortunately able to attend the public

1164
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,400
and safety committee subcommittee

1165
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,839
meeting. I think it was two weeks ago. I

1166
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,520
was up traveling in Bellingham for some

1167
00:49:41,839 --> 00:49:45,920
work. wasn't able to be there to speak

1168
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:48,319
on behalf of what I think is a very good

1169
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:51,760
option that we have for curtailing I

1170
00:49:48,319 --> 00:49:53,920
don't think there it goes

1171
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,760
for curtailing what I think we have as a

1172
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,000
significant problem um in our city I

1173
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:00,880
live on Park Street and it is an

1174
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:04,240
incessant racetrack at odd hours going

1175
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:06,400
up and down that street um I typically

1176
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:08,000
leave for work at like 5 in the morning

1177
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,280
work as an electrician for Prime

1178
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,680
Electric down in Seattle so I'm

1179
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,040
commuting a lot and even at 5 in the

1180
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,440
morning. This morning I was leaving for

1181
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:17,440
work at 4:45 and a car came blasting

1182
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:20,240
through the four-way stop between

1183
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:23,119
Metobrook and Park Street, zoomed past

1184
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:24,720
the uh Metobrook, well past the

1185
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:26,240
elementary school and back out towards

1186
00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:27,599
the field and I was loading things in

1187
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:29,440
the side of my truck with the cart at 5

1188
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:32,160
in the morning. He was cruising about

1189
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:34,079
40. So I think these cameras uh they

1190
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:37,440
would go a long way to help curb some of

1191
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:38,800
that behavior. Um, and understanding

1192
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,119
that I'm only supposed to be speaking

1193
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,640
specifically to the resolution. Um, and

1194
00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:44,160
knowing that I missed the initial public

1195
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,640
comment, I think it ties in a little bit

1196
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:49,119
at least. Um, just synchronization would

1197
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:52,000
also be really helpful probably. Um, out

1198
00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:54,160
along Metbook Way, we have flashing

1199
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,000
lights that only flash when drop off and

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00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,559
pickup is going. Past the high school,

1201
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:01,599
we have signage that dictates the speed

1202
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:03,920
of 20 m hour between, I think, 7 and 4.

1203
00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:05,920
and then on Park Street it flashes for

1204
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,280
the duration of the school day. So

1205
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,319
navigating between those three things

1206
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,319
knowing that that's a large

1207
00:51:08,319 --> 00:51:11,680
intersection. Um I think maybe a little

1208
00:51:10,319 --> 00:51:15,040
bit of coordination would go a long way

1209
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:17,200
in helping uh during the uh education

1210
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:21,480
phase if this moves past. Uh with that I

1211
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,480
see the remainder of my time. Thank you.

1212
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:28,640
» Uh thank you Mr. Wisink. Um Fitz Jordan

1213
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,800
again if you state your name and city of

1214
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:33,920
residence and you have three minutes.

1215
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:37,200
Right. Hello. I'm Fitz Jordan. I live in

1216
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:40,319
Snowqualami, Washington. Um, yeah, I

1217
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:43,119
would like to basically echo what Andrew

1218
00:51:40,319 --> 00:51:45,040
mentioned and really, uh, yeah, give my

1219
00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:46,880
support for the automated speed cameras.

1220
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:50,000
I've lived on Park Street for about four

1221
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:52,640
years now, and we have dealt with, seen,

1222
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:54,240
and, uh, yeah, experienced the racing

1223
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,480
that goes on in our neighborhood. It's

1224
00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:58,559
very unfortunate. We live in such a

1225
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,000
great neighborhood in Metobrook with the

1226
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:02,160
high school there, the elementary

1227
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:05,040
school, the middle school, Centennial

1228
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:06,800
Park. We have churches nearby. It's such

1229
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,200
a great community hub, but it's been

1230
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:11,760
overrun and and really impacted by the

1231
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:14,960
speeding. Uh the safety of the

1232
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:17,839
neighborhood is is a big concern for us

1233
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:19,920
and we hope it is for you as well. Uh, I

1234
00:52:17,839 --> 00:52:21,599
do want to thank the police chief for

1235
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,119
doing something about this and and

1236
00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:25,200
trying to collect some data with the

1237
00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:27,200
speed study to understand the problem.

1238
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,880
Uh, I think that was a big win for us

1239
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,480
validating that there's a huge issue

1240
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:33,440
here and I hope that the council sees

1241
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:35,599
that as well. Um, I know that there are

1242
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:38,319
some concerns with the cameras and some

1243
00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:40,480
risks that the council is worried about.

1244
00:52:38,319 --> 00:52:42,640
Uh, and I understand that, but I don't

1245
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,400
think we should just roll over at any

1246
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,480
risk or concern that we have with the

1247
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:49,839
cameras. These cameras are used in many

1248
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:52,160
other cities across the state and um

1249
00:52:49,839 --> 00:52:54,480
they seem to be working well in those

1250
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:57,040
cities. So I hope that we can find a way

1251
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:59,280
to to implement these cameras and and

1252
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,800
yeah really bring some safety back to

1253
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,400
the Metobrook neighborhood.

1254
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:06,880
» Thank you.

1255
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:08,480
» Thank you, Mr. Jordan. Um Hadley Evers

1256
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,839
and remember to state your name and city

1257
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:13,079
of residence for the record. You have

1258
00:53:09,839 --> 00:53:13,079
three minutes.

1259
00:53:13,359 --> 00:53:17,920
Um, hi everybody. Uh, I'm Hadley Evers.

1260
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,440
I also live in Snowqualami. Um, right

1261
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,680
around the corner from Mountside High

1262
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,280
School. Uh, some neighbors and I, a few

1263
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,720
that are here tonight, came to the

1264
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,760
public safety commission meeting just

1265
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:29,440
about a year ago um, about speeding in

1266
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,200
schools in Snowqualami. So, I do want to

1267
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,200
start by thanking the public safety

1268
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,839
commission, um, the police department

1269
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:38,640
and the city staff that took those

1270
00:53:35,839 --> 00:53:41,680
comments to where we are today. Um, it's

1271
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:44,400
it's really great. Uh, so I listened to

1272
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:46,240
the meeting last week or two weeks ago

1273
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:50,720
where you all were discussing the

1274
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:53,200
cameras and I did um want to say a few

1275
00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:56,160
things. Um, I love that there was

1276
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,520
discussion of road design changes. Um,

1277
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,680
it's my understanding though those are

1278
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,599
expensive investments like multi-year

1279
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,800
projects. Um, and I'd love to see and it

1280
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:04,720
sounded like there was a lot of interest

1281
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,480
in that and I'd love to see the city

1282
00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:08,800
make some commitments to those kinds of

1283
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,079
changes. um because I do think the

1284
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,960
cameras is just one piece of the

1285
00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:15,680
approach, right? Um Isiqua also came up

1286
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,040
a lot. So I I was curious about Isiqua

1287
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,680
High School and and the cameras that

1288
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:21,599
they have. And um I learned that Isiqua

1289
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,119
High School is the same size as

1290
00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:25,760
Snowquali High School. So the same

1291
00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:28,160
number of students um and Isiqua's

1292
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:30,480
police force has 38 officers to the

1293
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,960
eight officers that Snowqualami has or

1294
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,640
we have dedicated to Snowqualami. Um, so

1295
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,319
for me that really underlines how much

1296
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,760
we need these cameras as a force

1297
00:54:36,319 --> 00:54:38,960
multiplier. Like the high school brings

1298
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,200
in, you know, it's not just the

1299
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:44,079
students, it's events. It's it's just a

1300
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:46,240
huge hub, which is wonderful, but um it

1301
00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:48,720
is the idea of just approaching it with

1302
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:50,720
enforcement sounds like a tall order for

1303
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:53,359
a relatively small force at least

1304
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:55,440
compared to the high school size. Um, so

1305
00:54:53,359 --> 00:54:57,359
I would just end by saying that I

1306
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,359
believe that the world we're in where

1307
00:54:57,359 --> 00:55:01,359
there's reality of limited resources and

1308
00:54:59,359 --> 00:55:04,000
competing priorities, the cameras are a

1309
00:55:01,359 --> 00:55:06,240
way to make a maximum impact on a really

1310
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:08,160
severe issue which was underlined by the

1311
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:09,680
speed study. Um, so I hope that the

1312
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:12,000
council will approve the ordinance and

1313
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,680
move our city towards safer streets.

1314
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,760
Thank you.

1315
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:18,960
» Thank you, Miss Evers.

1316
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:22,240
Are there any other uh individuals who'd

1317
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:25,559
like to speak to the um

1318
00:55:22,240 --> 00:55:25,559
the ordinance?

1319
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,480
Remember to state your name and city of

1320
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:35,040
residence and you have three minutes.

1321
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:37,920
» Hello, my name is Stephanie McNamera and

1322
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:40,319
I live here in Snowquami and I am a

1323
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:44,960
school bus driver. Speaking on the

1324
00:55:40,319 --> 00:55:48,559
audience, um I would love to see a lot

1325
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:50,640
of that take part in the cameras. As a

1326
00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:53,839
bus driver driving around our whole

1327
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:57,040
entire district, I see numerous people

1328
00:55:53,839 --> 00:55:59,440
cutting buses off, cutting people off,

1329
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:01,920
going in a school zone, driving around a

1330
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:06,400
bus in a school zone, clearly going over

1331
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:10,400
the 20 miles an hour. And um the cameras

1332
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:14,400
would just be another added

1333
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:16,319
thing and a and a tool to be able to let

1334
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:19,359
people know that we mean business and

1335
00:56:16,319 --> 00:56:21,119
that children are involved when they are

1336
00:56:19,359 --> 00:56:24,880
in a school district whether it's

1337
00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:28,319
summertime or not. Um on Park Street, we

1338
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:30,000
know that there's um certain areas that

1339
00:56:28,319 --> 00:56:33,520
can be, you know, a nice little

1340
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:35,680
racetrack. Um on Mebrook itself, we do

1341
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:39,520
have a school district sign that says

1342
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:41,920
from 700 a.m. to 4. However, that's all

1343
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:44,480
year long. It needs to be specific

1344
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:48,480
during school times that we have that

1345
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:52,079
sign and lighting on 202. We have right

1346
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:55,599
there at um Snowquami Middle School that

1347
00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:57,359
is actually run by uh WSP. A lot of

1348
00:56:55,599 --> 00:56:59,520
people may not know that, but they are

1349
00:56:57,359 --> 00:57:02,559
in charge of the light function. If we

1350
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:04,400
could get maybe the city to incorporate

1351
00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:08,000
help with that to make sure that they

1352
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:12,160
are timed, um it would make things

1353
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:13,520
a little more safer. Um, especially I

1354
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:16,640
don't know, a lot of people don't like

1355
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:20,480
speed bumps, but that might be something

1356
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:23,280
to think about. Um, I know it would be

1357
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:26,000
probably more costing to um, the city

1358
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:28,640
because it can be expensive, but I think

1359
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:31,280
if you put a high fine on some of these

1360
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:34,559
um, individuals who are going through

1361
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:38,480
the school districts and speeding, uh, I

1362
00:57:34,559 --> 00:57:41,200
can guarantee they will be one and done.

1363
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:43,760
Um, if a fine is $500 and something

1364
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:45,520
dollars more, I guarantee they're not

1365
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:48,319
going to do it and insurance will go up

1366
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:50,960
on them. So, as a bus driver, I ask that

1367
00:57:48,319 --> 00:57:52,720
you really definitely look into this for

1368
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,559
the future. I think it will be a great

1369
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,799
tool for all involved and I think the

1370
00:57:54,559 --> 00:57:58,400
safety of our kids and the neighborhoods

1371
00:57:56,799 --> 00:58:01,839
around that have to deal with the school

1372
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:04,640
zones will be

1373
00:58:01,839 --> 00:58:07,839
will be good. Thank you for your time.

1374
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:09,920
» Thank you, Miss McNamer. Any

1375
00:58:07,839 --> 00:58:11,280
other speakers to wish uh are the

1376
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,760
members of the public that wish to speak

1377
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:16,559
on this topic?

1378
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:20,000
Seeing none, uh council, is there any

1379
00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:21,200
discussion of this motion? Council

1380
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,119
member Watton,

1381
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:27,359
» I'll lead off. First of all, I want to

1382
00:58:23,119 --> 00:58:29,839
thank um Advis and so many of the people

1383
00:58:27,359 --> 00:58:32,720
that have come before and actually this

1384
00:58:29,839 --> 00:58:36,400
is almost a year and a half long since

1385
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:39,280
uh we've started this. Um but it has

1386
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:41,680
been a concern and of course our

1387
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:44,480
community has one of the highest

1388
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:47,520
populations of kids. So this is a high

1389
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:51,040
priority and and many of our streets

1390
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:54,079
that uh border our schools um are

1391
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:57,520
impacted obviously and so this is only

1392
00:58:54,079 --> 00:59:00,160
one method of addressing that. Um, but

1393
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:02,799
we definitely appreciate the the

1394
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:04,880
citizens that have expressed a concern

1395
00:59:02,799 --> 00:59:07,359
and and we're following through and

1396
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:09,520
public works has been an incredible

1397
00:59:07,359 --> 00:59:11,839
partner to the police department and we

1398
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:14,960
we certainly appreciate it. One thing I

1399
00:59:11,839 --> 00:59:19,280
do want to speak on and that is um the

1400
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:21,440
the other aspect of um personal privacy

1401
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:24,240
and that is we've been very intentional

1402
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:27,119
in in making sure that these are not

1403
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:30,240
real time tracked cameras. These are

1404
00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:32,559
things that uh we will see hours later.

1405
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:34,799
So it's not that's the first thing. The

1406
00:59:32,559 --> 00:59:36,960
second thing that uh we've cons

1407
00:59:34,799 --> 00:59:39,760
consistently have addressed and that's

1408
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:42,640
making sure that it stays that

1409
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:46,160
information stays with the city as much

1410
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:48,480
as possible and and uh we'll continue to

1411
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:51,839
to go down that path, but we're not

1412
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:55,920
there yet. This is merely a means for us

1413
00:59:51,839 --> 00:59:58,319
to take the next step. So um uh that's

1414
00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:02,079
the deliberation for this body this

1415
00:59:58,319 --> 01:00:04,799
evening is uh do we add it to our codes

1416
01:00:02,079 --> 01:00:07,839
so that we can move forward um but it is

1417
01:00:04,799 --> 01:00:10,960
not the end all solution. So, um, again,

1418
01:00:07,839 --> 01:00:12,799
I appreciate the the work of the police

1419
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,960
department, public works, the

1420
01:00:12,799 --> 01:00:17,200
administration, the other council

1421
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:20,480
members that have served on public

1422
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:24,480
safety, including our outgoing

1423
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:26,720
council member Cara Christensen, and uh,

1424
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:31,119
for this work. So, anyway, those are my

1425
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:33,040
comments for now. Thank you very much.

1426
01:00:31,119 --> 01:00:35,520
» Any further discussion? Council member

1427
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:40,480
Holloway.

1428
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:42,240
Um, all right. So, I'm I'm concerned

1429
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:45,680
that

1430
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:50,160
uh I guess two two separate facts. One

1431
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:54,319
that uh basically on anecdotal none none

1432
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:57,119
of these systems are uh self-funding.

1433
01:00:54,319 --> 01:00:59,359
They're usually a cost anecdotal. Love

1434
01:00:57,119 --> 01:01:02,079
to see some facts data, but anecdotally,

1435
01:00:59,359 --> 01:01:05,599
these are usually a cost to the city.

1436
01:01:02,079 --> 01:01:07,520
Um, I'm further concerned by statements

1437
01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:11,040
which have been made that we will adjust

1438
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:14,880
enforcement to cover the service costs

1439
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:17,280
and I blatantly refuse to delegate

1440
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:20,559
the level of enforcement to a for-profit

1441
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:22,640
entity outside the city.

1442
01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:25,040
Uh, having said that, I'd like to make a

1443
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:28,720
motion for alteration.

1444
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:33,200
Move to amend section 10.13.020

1445
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:35,200
020 to add section D stating

1446
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:37,920
establishment and change to minim min

1447
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:42,839
minimum parameters must be presented to

1448
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:42,839
council and approved by council.

1449
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,400
» We have a second

1450
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:49,359
» Motion by council member Holloway to add

1451
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:50,799
a section D to the proposed ordinance.

1452
01:01:49,359 --> 01:01:51,599
Is there a second?

1453
01:01:50,799 --> 01:01:53,680
» Second.

1454
01:01:51,599 --> 01:01:55,599
» Seconded by council member Washington.

1455
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:58,599
Any discussion of the proposed

1456
01:01:55,599 --> 01:01:58,599
amendment?

1457
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:07,520
All right. Uh, council member one.

1458
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:11,760
» Thank you. I have some concerns.

1459
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:15,280
Concerns are this. We set policy. We do

1460
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:18,880
not direct and we don't currently direct

1461
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:22,480
the police department how they enforce

1462
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:24,880
traffic moving traffic violations. That

1463
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:28,000
is given to the police department. It's

1464
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:30,079
the same as if public works. We do not

1465
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:35,119
tell them what their schedule is or how

1466
01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:38,319
they go about their work. We set policy.

1467
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:40,880
And the reality is there is a speed

1468
01:02:38,319 --> 01:02:43,680
limit and those things are reviewed by

1469
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:46,079
this council. We make those policies,

1470
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:48,880
but we don't enforce it. The enforcement

1471
01:02:46,079 --> 01:02:51,680
comes from the police department. We

1472
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:54,160
have confidence in doing that. And I I

1473
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:58,559
can recall having a conversation with

1474
01:02:54,160 --> 01:03:02,240
the um chief of the state patrol and

1475
01:02:58,559 --> 01:03:04,880
asking her point blank,

1476
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,880
we can go 5 miles over the speed limit.

1477
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:10,720
She said, "No, you're in violation of a

1478
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:13,599
mile over." So I I think that it's

1479
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:17,680
reasonable to understand that we set

1480
01:03:13,599 --> 01:03:21,520
policy and we give the police department

1481
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:24,880
those policies to enforce and it would

1482
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:28,240
make very little sense for them and and

1483
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:32,319
they don't today enforce things at a

1484
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:36,079
certain mileage over. There is only so

1485
01:03:32,319 --> 01:03:38,720
much in resources that they have and if

1486
01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:40,720
they need more resources that's the job

1487
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:44,000
of the council

1488
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:47,920
but they have to determine

1489
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:51,119
at what point do we and secondly

1490
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:54,559
state of Washington every traffic

1491
01:03:51,119 --> 01:03:56,880
infraction has to be enforced

1492
01:03:54,559 --> 01:03:59,680
by a member of our law enforcement. It

1493
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:02,960
can't be done out of state by another

1494
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:06,799
third party company. They just simply

1495
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:08,799
help facilitate, but they do not write

1496
01:04:06,799 --> 01:04:10,640
the violation. So, I want to make sure

1497
01:04:08,799 --> 01:04:14,480
that we're perfectly clear. And for

1498
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:17,039
those reasons, I'm not in favor of this

1499
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:19,920
amendment. Even though I understand the

1500
01:04:17,039 --> 01:04:22,400
purpose is to make sure that our police

1501
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:24,960
are not overreaching,

1502
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:28,000
but I think that we also need to be on

1503
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:30,400
the side of safety. And Council Member

1504
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:34,559
Murphy did an excellent job of pointing

1505
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:38,160
that out in our last discussion here. Um

1506
01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:41,680
that speed does kill and exponentially

1507
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:45,839
goes up when speed increases. So, with

1508
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:48,640
that, I respectfully say that I can't

1509
01:04:45,839 --> 01:04:50,640
support this amendment.

1510
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,799
» Council member Christensen.

1511
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,720
» Thank you. May I ask that the motion be

1512
01:04:52,799 --> 01:04:56,720
read back? I want to make sure that I

1513
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,400
understand exactly what's being proposed

1514
01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:00,240
so then I can hopefully respond to it.

1515
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:02,079
» Yes, Council Member Holloway. We tried

1516
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,400
to capture it, but you spoke very

1517
01:05:02,079 --> 01:05:04,480
quickly.

1518
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:06,559
» I went off script just a bit, I admit.

1519
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:08,640
All right. So, I'll read it back as best

1520
01:05:06,559 --> 01:05:11,440
we captured it. And if you could help

1521
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:13,599
correct my uh readback to the extent

1522
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:18,240
it's not correct.

1523
01:05:13,599 --> 01:05:21,200
» Um motion to add section D to uh the

1524
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:23,920
proposed ordinance 10.13

1525
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:26,920
to establish

1526
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,920
minimum.13.020

1527
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,720
» 10.13.020.

1528
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:38,520
It's a lot of numbers to catch really

1529
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:38,520
quickly. I only got 10.13. So 10.13.020

1530
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:46,240
to add section D.

1531
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:47,839
We may have it. Hold on.

1532
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,480
» I did a little word smithing from the

1533
01:05:47,839 --> 01:05:50,720
email.

1534
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,480
» All right. Um,

1535
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:54,799
which states

1536
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:56,319
» I said the establishment and changes to

1537
01:05:54,799 --> 01:05:58,880
minimum and then you can read the rest

1538
01:05:56,319 --> 01:06:02,319
of the email.

1539
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:05,200
add section D to establish

1540
01:06:02,319 --> 01:06:06,720
» The establishment and change

1541
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:08,240
» Establishment

1542
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:11,039
and change

1543
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:13,280
» Of

1544
01:06:11,039 --> 01:06:15,520
and then the part of the email that's in

1545
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:20,680
quotes

1546
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:20,680
» The minimum enforcement par parameters.

1547
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:27,680
Can you read out the whole thing for me?

1548
01:06:24,079 --> 01:06:31,839
I can't make it make sense.

1549
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:34,880
Motion to amend section 10.13.020

1550
01:06:31,839 --> 01:06:37,680
to add section D which states the

1551
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:39,680
establishment and changes to the minimum

1552
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:42,799
enforcement parameters must be presented

1553
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:46,599
to the city council for approval.

1554
01:06:42,799 --> 01:06:46,599
» Got it. Thank you.

1555
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:52,799
Council member Christensen. Is that um

1556
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,480
answer your question? Yes, that's

1557
01:06:52,799 --> 01:06:57,440
helpful because initially I had

1558
01:06:54,480 --> 01:07:00,319
understood council Holloway's concerns

1559
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:03,280
being that if we allow a third party to

1560
01:07:00,319 --> 01:07:05,520
be determining when and at what mileage

1561
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,799
someone would get a ticket, I understand

1562
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,799
wanting to make sure that that's kept

1563
01:07:06,799 --> 01:07:10,240
within the city and specifically within

1564
01:07:08,799 --> 01:07:12,240
the police department, right? Because

1565
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:15,280
they're going to be the ones that are

1566
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:17,119
going to be best suited um to figure out

1567
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,559
where exactly those lines need to be

1568
01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:21,200
based on the speed study and things like

1569
01:07:18,559 --> 01:07:23,599
that. Um,

1570
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,960
I'm kind of in this I I'm inclined to

1571
01:07:23,599 --> 01:07:27,359
agree with Council Member Watton that

1572
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:29,200
that is not typically making the these

1573
01:07:27,359 --> 01:07:30,720
lines of demarcation for what deserves a

1574
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:32,160
ticket is not something that is

1575
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:34,400
currently reserved to city council. And

1576
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,920
I do think that that's more of the role

1577
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,839
for administration and specifically the

1578
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,760
police department to to go ahead and

1579
01:07:37,839 --> 01:07:41,200
make those decisions going forward. If

1580
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,440
there were an issue, I'm sure that we

1581
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:45,119
would hear about it from our residents.

1582
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:47,200
Um, and I think maybe at that point in

1583
01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:48,799
time we could bring it back. Again, it

1584
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:51,839
would be a different conversation, at

1585
01:07:48,799 --> 01:07:53,119
least from my perspective, if again that

1586
01:07:51,839 --> 01:07:54,559
decision was being made by someone

1587
01:07:53,119 --> 01:07:55,920
outside of the city, outside the police

1588
01:07:54,559 --> 01:07:58,000
department.

1589
01:07:55,920 --> 01:08:00,720
» If if I could add, just for clarity,

1590
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:03,359
under Washington state law, no

1591
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:06,799
infraction can be issued by anyone other

1592
01:08:03,359 --> 01:08:08,720
than one of our police officers. So, no

1593
01:08:06,799 --> 01:08:11,599
outside company will issue an

1594
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:13,440
infraction, only our police officers.

1595
01:08:11,599 --> 01:08:16,719
Mechanically,

1596
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:18,640
the outside provider will capture data

1597
01:08:16,719 --> 01:08:22,319
and provide it to our police officers

1598
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:25,279
who then must review each instance that

1599
01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:28,080
they wish to issue a that they decide to

1600
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:29,839
issue an infraction on. And then they

1601
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:32,640
either issue an infraction or don't.

1602
01:08:29,839 --> 01:08:34,560
Those decisions are made solely by our

1603
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:38,880
police officers as required by state

1604
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:41,759
law. So even if you

1605
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:43,359
wanted to allow some third party,

1606
01:08:41,759 --> 01:08:46,640
actually state law would prohibit you

1607
01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:48,400
from allowing that. Um so and that is

1608
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:50,880
just as it's done today when police

1609
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:52,719
officers pull over uh people for

1610
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:56,480
potential infractions. They make

1611
01:08:52,719 --> 01:08:58,319
judgment calls every day and um you

1612
01:08:56,480 --> 01:09:01,440
allow them to make those decisions. So

1613
01:08:58,319 --> 01:09:03,359
just for clarity, it is just the police,

1614
01:09:01,440 --> 01:09:07,560
it is only our police officers that can

1615
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:07,560
issue an infraction. Council

1616
01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:12,560
member Holloway.

1617
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:16,159
» So, I'll make a couple response. Uh,

1618
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:20,400
yes. And to to that last comment of uh

1619
01:09:16,159 --> 01:09:22,960
community policeman, police enforcement,

1620
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:26,080
in my opinion, is an aspect that we're

1621
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:29,199
somewhat losing in this. Okay. But

1622
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:30,640
understand the efficiency of an officer

1623
01:09:29,199 --> 01:09:32,960
can't stand there with his eyes open

1624
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:36,560
24/7. He'll just, you know, go go blind.

1625
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:40,000
Um, and a camera can understand that.

1626
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:43,520
Okay. I I do counter that. We do set the

1627
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:46,080
laws. We do set what gets enforced and

1628
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:48,400
what doesn't get enforced.

1629
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:50,480
I'm only putting in place something

1630
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:53,440
because I have a camera in the middle of

1631
01:09:50,480 --> 01:09:55,040
this versus an officer who's making a

1632
01:09:53,440 --> 01:09:58,040
judgment based on a video and three

1633
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:58,040
pictures

1634
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:03,440
that and a service that in my opinion

1635
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:06,560
will end up

1636
01:10:03,440 --> 01:10:10,480
costing us more than it

1637
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:13,120
generates, which I'm okay with, but I

1638
01:10:10,480 --> 01:10:17,600
want us to be aware of that. And nor do

1639
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:19,199
I want the ser the enforcement

1640
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:21,040
lowered to such a sense that, you know,

1641
01:10:19,199 --> 01:10:23,760
one mile over gets you a ticket because

1642
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:26,400
I can't pay for the service.

1643
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:28,960
I do not want the service adjusted based

1644
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:31,520
on its cost. I want the service adjusted

1645
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:34,000
based on the effect of the enforcement.

1646
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:36,000
Those need to be separated.

1647
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:39,199
And I have statements from the chief in

1648
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:41,520
which he has said, quote unquote, I will

1649
01:10:39,199 --> 01:10:43,840
adjust the level of enforcement to pay

1650
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:45,840
for the service.

1651
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:48,719
I

1652
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:52,080
you can hear my voice. I totally

1653
01:10:48,719 --> 01:10:54,080
disagree with having an outside firm

1654
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,679
from a for-profit organization

1655
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,760
determining what the enforcement levels

1656
01:10:55,679 --> 01:11:03,000
are inside the city of Swami. And that's

1657
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:03,000
what that statement does. Council

1658
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,920
member Johnson.

1659
01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:07,920
» Yeah, I I think the council member

1660
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:10,560
Holloway brings up a really good point

1661
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:14,080
about the idea of should we be enforcing

1662
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:17,840
things more in order to pay for an

1663
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:19,679
outside cost to a for-profit company.

1664
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:24,000
Um, I don't know that this is the right

1665
01:11:19,679 --> 01:11:28,239
mechanism uh in the proposed amendment,

1666
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:30,880
» But I definitely hear the concern and

1667
01:11:28,239 --> 01:11:33,440
I would like to find a way to get that

1668
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:35,679
concern addressed in a meaningful way.

1669
01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:38,800
Again, I'm not sure if this is the right

1670
01:11:35,679 --> 01:11:40,480
mechanism or not. So, I I think I'll

1671
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:44,120
leave it there for a moment.

1672
01:11:40,480 --> 01:11:44,120
» Council member Washington.

1673
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:50,080
» Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1674
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:52,880
My I have a follow-up question and I

1675
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:55,679
don't know if uh maybe the chief can

1676
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:57,520
answer this question, but

1677
01:11:55,679 --> 01:12:01,120
I think there's a question if if I'm

1678
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:02,480
understanding um enforcement mechanisms.

1679
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:05,920
So, specifically when we're looking at

1680
01:12:02,480 --> 01:12:08,719
school zones, uh I had a chance to go to

1681
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:11,840
Washington just revised uh some of their

1682
01:12:08,719 --> 01:12:15,600
best practices on this. My understanding

1683
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:18,320
is if we're going to enforce school

1684
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:21,120
speed zone safety,

1685
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:23,920
it can only be at 20 miles an hour. It's

1686
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:26,239
very specific in what it can do. 300 ft

1687
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:30,000
from a school district, from a school or

1688
01:12:26,239 --> 01:12:31,600
a playground border. So, we can only

1689
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,920
force

1690
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:36,640
in in force with a camera during those

1691
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:40,719
operating hours. And it's very specific

1692
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:43,520
that it must be a beacon.

1693
01:12:40,719 --> 01:12:46,880
Is that is that your reading of the

1694
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:48,800
statute, chief?

1695
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,199
» So my question is for the chief, Mr.

1696
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,800
Mayor.

1697
01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:52,320
» Yeah. I I'm not sure the chief should

1698
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:54,159
give that answer. Perhaps city attorney.

1699
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,719
You're asking for interpretation of the

1700
01:12:54,159 --> 01:12:56,080
law.

1701
01:12:54,719 --> 01:12:57,040
» Okay.

1702
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,960
» Okay. Thank you.

1703
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:02,239
» Um I believe what you're saying is

1704
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:03,920
accurate. My understanding

1705
01:13:02,239 --> 01:13:05,440
» Oh, sorry.

1706
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:07,360
» No. Council member Washington, go ahead.

1707
01:13:05,440 --> 01:13:08,719
» Sorry. I'm sorry. Go ahead and finish,

1708
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,920
please, city attorney. I'm so sorry.

1709
01:13:08,719 --> 01:13:11,760
» Could you repeat it again because I

1710
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:14,760
thought it was going to the chief, so I

1711
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,760
» Okay.

1712
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:22,480
» So, there seems to be this question that

1713
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:24,400
just, you know, for me of okay,

1714
01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:26,960
so think of it as kind of I think of it

1715
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:30,480
as two separate programs. First program

1716
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:32,960
would be literally enforcing the speed

1717
01:13:30,480 --> 01:13:35,600
zone for the school district.

1718
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:39,040
So take for example Timberidge

1719
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:41,920
and you know you have to sorry I don't

1720
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:44,719
have children but I think the um the

1721
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:48,239
hours of operation for the school zone I

1722
01:13:44,719 --> 01:13:51,120
believe it's 9:45 to 11:45 it's or is it

1723
01:13:48,239 --> 01:13:53,040
8:45 to 10:45?

1724
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:56,000
» I'm not allowed to respond back to you.

1725
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:58,320
So I so two hours in the morning and two

1726
01:13:56,000 --> 01:14:00,080
hours in the evening. From what I

1727
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:02,800
understanding, under state law, we would

1728
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:04,880
only be able to enforce

1729
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:09,760
the speed for that speed zone, the

1730
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:13,040
school speeding zone during those times

1731
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:16,080
similar to Mount Sai, I think it's 7

1732
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:17,920
a.m. to 4 to 4 p.m.

1733
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,960
Council, if I could just clarify your

1734
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:21,040
question for that. Um,

1735
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:23,440
» Please, please. you, as I understand it,

1736
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:26,320
you're asking not about the wording in

1737
01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:29,040
this partic particular um proposed

1738
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:31,520
ordinance. You're asking with respect to

1739
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:34,080
state law, which would potentially

1740
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:36,880
further restrict how this ordinance

1741
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:40,080
could be implemented, you're asking if

1742
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:44,400
state law restricts the timing of when

1743
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:45,679
this um would uh be permissible,

1744
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:48,159
» The enforcement of it. Yeah,

1745
01:14:45,679 --> 01:14:49,840
» Correct. Um,

1746
01:14:48,159 --> 01:14:52,880
» So my my understanding was that we had

1747
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:55,360
the ability to increase the parameters.

1748
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:58,800
Is that your understanding? Yeah.

1749
01:14:55,360 --> 01:15:00,400
» So my and maybe this is just where we

1750
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:02,880
need to be a little bit more clear and

1751
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:05,280
and get as much data as possible. That's

1752
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:08,080
not my understanding of it under state

1753
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:11,520
statute is that it can only be if it's

1754
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:13,199
specifically for a school speed zone. It

1755
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:15,600
can only be enforced during those

1756
01:15:13,199 --> 01:15:18,000
specific times

1757
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:20,159
when the beacon is active.

1758
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:22,000
» So I think okay so the infra there would

1759
01:15:20,159 --> 01:15:23,600
be two different types of infractions

1760
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:26,320
that would be issued. If it's during the

1761
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:28,000
school zone during school hours the

1762
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,440
person speeding would receive a certain

1763
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,679
one type of infraction. It's the

1764
01:15:29,440 --> 01:15:34,239
speeding in a school zone. If it's if

1765
01:15:31,679 --> 01:15:36,880
the program is expanded outside of

1766
01:15:34,239 --> 01:15:39,360
school zone times, then it would just be

1767
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:42,239
your normal speeding infraction.

1768
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:44,080
» Okay. I I would ask for clarity on that

1769
01:15:42,239 --> 01:15:45,280
and just where we can point to that in

1770
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,520
the law because that's not my

1771
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:50,960
understanding of it.

1772
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:52,640
» Okay. Uh inter chief, uh to answer your

1773
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:54,320
question, the cameras can be operated

1774
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:56,320
247

1775
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:58,400
and there's two designations. There's

1776
01:15:56,320 --> 01:16:03,760
the in time school zone times which we

1777
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:06,719
designate for uh the 8:45 to 9:45

1778
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:09,199
3 to 4 and then the 7 to4 I have all

1779
01:16:06,719 --> 01:16:12,320
those memorized. So there there's those

1780
01:16:09,199 --> 01:16:14,000
infra those those violations and then if

1781
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:18,320
for instance if we're looking at Squami

1782
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:21,360
Parkway alone the time u between 9:45

1783
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:24,400
and 3 p.m. can will be operated at a

1784
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:26,800
different parameter or can be operated

1785
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:29,600
at a different parameter. So for

1786
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:31,520
instance, industry standard for a school

1787
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:34,159
zone infraction

1788
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:36,159
on an automated system is typically s

1789
01:16:34,159 --> 01:16:38,880
it's the infraction begins at six or

1790
01:16:36,159 --> 01:16:40,560
seven miles over the speed limit. Then

1791
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:42,560
if you're outside the school zone times

1792
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:44,560
it moves up to 10 miles an hour. So

1793
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:46,560
you're operating in both sections. And

1794
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:48,239
then for instance on Metobrook if you

1795
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:51,440
did it you could do it after school

1796
01:16:48,239 --> 01:16:53,280
hours where we have school events kids

1797
01:16:51,440 --> 01:16:55,120
going there. So they're operating after

1798
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:57,840
that. And again, it moves from the

1799
01:16:55,120 --> 01:17:00,960
school zone speed of 20 miles an hour to

1800
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:02,640
there to a 10 mile over the speed limit

1801
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,640
outside of the school zone time. So, it

1802
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:06,880
does both. You can do both. We can

1803
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:08,719
regulate it more. We can regulate it,

1804
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,520
but we can't go less than what the RCW

1805
01:17:08,719 --> 01:17:11,600
states.

1806
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,800
» Just a quick followup Washington. Yeah,

1807
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,400
» Thank you.

1808
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:16,560
» Understood, Chief. Um, just for

1809
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:18,239
transparency sakes, um, because I'm I'm

1810
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:21,360
not seeing that and looks like they

1811
01:17:18,239 --> 01:17:23,679
revised this at the beginning of 2025. I

1812
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:26,400
would just need to I would need to see

1813
01:17:23,679 --> 01:17:27,760
in the law where you can point to that

1814
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:30,080
because I'm just not seeing it under

1815
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:31,760
current law.

1816
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,800
» Give me just a minute. I'll pull some

1817
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,480
stuff.

1818
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,320
» Let's be careful about shooting from the

1819
01:17:34,480 --> 01:17:39,120
hip on answering that that he wants a

1820
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:41,679
very specific and clear answer that is

1821
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:43,520
that I'd want or

1822
01:17:41,679 --> 01:17:46,000
» Okay, Council Member Holloway.

1823
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:48,239
» Well, and I just wanted because the the

1824
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,840
question maybe we're getting to it. The

1825
01:17:48,239 --> 01:17:52,239
question was not the capability of the

1826
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:54,880
system. The question was legal

1827
01:17:52,239 --> 01:17:58,640
applicable

1828
01:17:54,880 --> 01:18:01,440
excuse me of the system to do both

1829
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:03,280
school infraction and speeding

1830
01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:07,120
infraction based on time of day or

1831
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:09,440
whatever. Um where the material he's

1832
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:13,239
looking at seems to imply it's one or

1833
01:18:09,440 --> 01:18:13,239
the other but not both.

1834
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:18,199
» Understand that that's part of the

1835
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:18,199
question. Yes.

1836
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:23,040
No, I just

1837
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:25,520
council member Wen

1838
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:29,800
» Just for clarity and I did go into the

1839
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:29,800
RCWS is 46.61.440

1840
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:34,840
and 46.61.400.

1841
01:18:35,679 --> 01:18:41,920
Those both address school zones and the

1842
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:45,360
times that those are enforced and how

1843
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:47,840
they're enforced. And uh it would seem

1844
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:50,480
to me under those two things that we are

1845
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:53,040
consistent with the state law with one

1846
01:18:50,480 --> 01:18:56,480
thing is we have to make sure that our

1847
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:59,040
beacons are working during those hours.

1848
01:18:56,480 --> 01:19:04,000
And secondly, the times have to be

1849
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:07,760
clearly posted in 7 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. um

1850
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:12,000
appears to be within the parameter of

1851
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:14,320
this body to determine. So, um, but

1852
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:17,120
those are are valid concerns and thank

1853
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:20,560
you for bringing those up and and want

1854
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:23,960
to get back to Council Member Holloway's

1855
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,960
um motion.

1856
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:34,640
» Uh, Council Member Murphy. Um,

1857
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:36,159
so if you could help me understand, um,

1858
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:38,080
when we're talking about enforcement

1859
01:19:36,159 --> 01:19:41,679
parameters, are we just are we talking

1860
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:43,360
about speed or time of day or both? I

1861
01:19:41,679 --> 01:19:46,600
guess that'd be a question for the maker

1862
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,600
of the motion.

1863
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:51,920
» Well, council member

1864
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:54,159
» Giving my partial answer. Uh because

1865
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:57,280
part of the answer depends on which

1866
01:19:54,159 --> 01:19:59,120
system you may be using. But it would be

1867
01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:03,360
whatever parameters we communicate to

1868
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:06,159
the vendor that says forward on

1869
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:09,360
infractions at this speed level for the

1870
01:20:06,159 --> 01:20:13,679
officers to review and what that speed

1871
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:16,320
level is is what this would be aimed at.

1872
01:20:13,679 --> 01:20:18,239
And so would I still have the

1873
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:20,320
outstanding question here, but at least

1874
01:20:18,239 --> 01:20:24,400
between eight and 10. I'm just going to

1875
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:27,199
round up. Uh between eight and 10,

1876
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:29,199
» We said six miles over,

1877
01:20:27,199 --> 01:20:31,120
go to the office for for review,

1878
01:20:29,199 --> 01:20:34,080
whatever. At least that statement would

1879
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:36,719
come to council to approve and look at.

1880
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:38,400
If at a later date we want to bring that

1881
01:20:36,719 --> 01:20:42,480
down or bring that up, that also would

1882
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:45,199
come to council to review.

1883
01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:48,400
if I could help. Um, what I put on the

1884
01:20:45,199 --> 01:20:51,280
screen here is the, um, code section

1885
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:54,400
that you're considering. And as you see

1886
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:56,719
in section A, you're only, uh,

1887
01:20:54,400 --> 01:21:01,199
considering authorizing,

1888
01:20:56,719 --> 01:21:03,600
uh, school speed zone violations.

1889
01:21:01,199 --> 01:21:04,560
So, not the other chapter of

1890
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,560
» Not off hours.

1891
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:10,960
» Not off hours. you're only authorizing

1892
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:12,880
right now school speed zone school speed

1893
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:15,600
zone violations.

1894
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:17,760
So, um, that and then I'd also tell you

1895
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:20,800
just

1896
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:22,560
the chief's comments may not have

1897
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:26,239
fully anticipated how you might hear

1898
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:29,040
them, but we anticipate

1899
01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:32,640
far more infractions

1900
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:35,040
in the zone of where we would be willing

1901
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:36,880
to issue infractions,

1902
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:42,080
meaning not one mile over the speed

1903
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:44,640
limit. far more initially than we

1904
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:46,640
actually have the capacity to issue uh

1905
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:49,280
those infractions. So what we want to do

1906
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:52,960
is hold down the number of infractions

1907
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:56,000
to a level that we can actually handle

1908
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:59,280
with the officers that we have. Now, if

1909
01:21:56,000 --> 01:22:01,360
we don't, we also believe that based on

1910
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:03,520
how these systems go, when they're

1911
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:05,040
implemented everywhere else, that as

1912
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:07,760
soon as these cameras are being

1913
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:09,920
enforced, the amount of speeding drops

1914
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:12,800
dramatically,

1915
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:15,280
we still expect that that level will be

1916
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:17,520
at a level higher than our existing

1917
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:20,000
force can issue. So, uh can issue

1918
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:21,679
infractions. Remember, each one has to

1919
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:24,239
be reviewed and an officer has to make a

1920
01:22:21,679 --> 01:22:26,400
determination and issue the infraction.

1921
01:22:24,239 --> 01:22:28,960
a certain percentage of those then go

1922
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:31,199
and get heard at traffic court and our

1923
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:32,800
officers have to turn up for those. So

1924
01:22:31,199 --> 01:22:35,040
there's a whole administrative burden.

1925
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:38,000
What we're what the chief was trying to

1926
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:40,719
communicate is that we're going to hold

1927
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:43,280
down the number of infractions we issue

1928
01:22:40,719 --> 01:22:45,760
so that we don't overload overload our

1929
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:48,800
existing force. We believe that that

1930
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:50,960
number will generate revenue far

1931
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:52,639
exceeding the cost. So what we're saying

1932
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:54,560
is we're going to initially calibrate

1933
01:22:52,639 --> 01:22:58,239
this to make sure we at least cover the

1934
01:22:54,560 --> 01:23:01,520
cost number one meaning not going down

1935
01:22:58,239 --> 01:23:03,760
to lower speed limits but as we say well

1936
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:05,120
how many do we at least want to issue so

1937
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:09,840
that we'll start at the much higher

1938
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:14,159
speeds in excess of the limit and then

1939
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:18,320
um we'll enforce further to a level that

1940
01:23:14,159 --> 01:23:20,159
our officers can um handle the load on

1941
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:21,920
and then as we see how that goes goes in

1942
01:23:20,159 --> 01:23:25,120
the first couple months, we'll report

1943
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:27,440
back to you, see how that's going, and

1944
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:29,199
then we can talk to you about, well, do

1945
01:23:27,440 --> 01:23:31,120
you want further enforcement beyond that

1946
01:23:29,199 --> 01:23:33,199
because in that case, we might need more

1947
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:36,239
officers, and we'll have that discussion

1948
01:23:33,199 --> 01:23:38,400
then. But in no way, uh, do we expect

1949
01:23:36,239 --> 01:23:42,480
that this will be something that results

1950
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:44,960
in the speed that we enforce being lower

1951
01:23:42,480 --> 01:23:46,480
than we would otherwise enforce. So, for

1952
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:49,199
example, that we would enforce with

1953
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:51,760
actual patrol officers. So, that was

1954
01:23:49,199 --> 01:23:55,520
sort of the intent of those statements.

1955
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:56,880
Hopefully, that helps. But, um, that

1956
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:59,679
that's sort of the context in which

1957
01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:01,120
those comments were being made.

1958
01:23:59,679 --> 01:24:02,560
Council member Christensen,

1959
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,480
» Thanks. Yeah, I was just going back to

1960
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:06,560
the traffic study that was given to us,

1961
01:24:04,480 --> 01:24:08,960
and this is specifically looking at over

1962
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:10,639
at Mount Sai at Metobrook. So, again,

1963
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,880
during school enforcement hours over

1964
01:24:10,639 --> 01:24:16,560
that three-day period, there were over

1965
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:19,120
1,00 well, it was 1,615 violations.

1966
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:23,360
1,200 of those were, you know, that 27

1967
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:27,199
and up. 277 were, you know, 32 to 36 and

1968
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:28,719
49 were over 30 37 miles an hour. So, I

1969
01:24:27,199 --> 01:24:31,040
don't think that again that that we'll

1970
01:24:28,719 --> 01:24:32,800
be, you know, having to lower it

1971
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:34,719
significantly. I think that again, our

1972
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:36,719
officers will be able to move forward

1973
01:24:34,719 --> 01:24:39,600
with the most significant violations.

1974
01:24:36,719 --> 01:24:41,280
And I I'm would love to see this come

1975
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,880
back to the, you know, the future

1976
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:44,239
council to to make those, you know,

1977
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:46,400
fine-tuning things and have those

1978
01:24:44,239 --> 01:24:48,080
conversations, but I don't

1979
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:49,360
I I think that the path that the

1980
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:52,000
administration is setting forward with

1981
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:54,080
this with the police heading it up, they

1982
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,360
will be more than willing to and able to

1983
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,639
cover this.

1984
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:59,120
» Council member Holloway,

1985
01:24:56,639 --> 01:25:02,000
» And you did exactly

1986
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:04,400
what I'm trying to avoid. Your first

1987
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:07,840
consideration, you stated, was the cost

1988
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:10,880
of the service.

1989
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:13,920
That should not be a determining factor

1990
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:16,159
in the level of enforcement needed to do

1991
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:20,000
what we're talking here.

1992
01:25:16,159 --> 01:25:22,159
That's what I'm trying to separate.

1993
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:24,639
» Council member Johnson,

1994
01:25:22,159 --> 01:25:27,280
» Uh I must have asked this before and now

1995
01:25:24,639 --> 01:25:30,639
I'm probably just forgetting, but um is

1996
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:32,960
there a a um an air statements on the

1997
01:25:30,639 --> 01:25:34,400
speeds uh that are captured? And the

1998
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:36,320
reason I'm asking is that whenever I go

1999
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:37,679
past one of those little uh beaconyy

2000
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,600
things we have out there, like one on

2001
01:25:37,679 --> 01:25:42,400
the Parkway, which one of the digits is

2002
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:44,719
out by the way, um

2003
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:47,280
it's never right. That thing has never

2004
01:25:44,719 --> 01:25:50,320
matched my speedometer and that's having

2005
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:52,400
owned several vehicles. Um, so and I

2006
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:54,960
mean it could be off by, you know, three

2007
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:56,800
to five miles per hour. Um, so I'm

2008
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:58,560
curious. Um, I must have asked that

2009
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:00,800
before because I feel like as a science

2010
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,440
teacher, I'm I must just be forgetting I

2011
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,520
asked that.

2012
01:26:01,440 --> 01:26:05,920
» So to answer your question, yes, the the

2013
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:08,000
radar the radar unit in each camera

2014
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:11,040
system is calibrated annually just like

2015
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:13,040
our patrol cars are. And then if they if

2016
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,679
» What error statement like plus or minus

2017
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:15,120
how much?

2018
01:26:13,679 --> 01:26:16,639
» I would have to get that information for

2019
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:20,080
you because there's a technical side to

2020
01:26:16,639 --> 01:26:21,679
that that I don't get into. Um but we

2021
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:23,280
for instance in our patrol cars we hire

2022
01:26:21,679 --> 01:26:25,040
a company annually. They just came out

2023
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:27,280
they calibrate the radars. These are

2024
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:29,600
done the same way. So make to ensure

2025
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:31,360
that they're the accuracy is within

2026
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,080
whatever that percentage is. But I can

2027
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,560
get that for you.

2028
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:35,440
» But mayor follow

2029
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,960
up. Council member Johnson.

2030
01:26:35,440 --> 01:26:38,320
» Okay. And the the reason I ask is

2031
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:41,440
because I think this is relevant to the

2032
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:44,320
the motion before us uh in that uh if

2033
01:26:41,440 --> 01:26:45,600
there was some adjusting u to to make up

2034
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:47,520
for costs or whatever, I would

2035
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:50,080
definitely want to make sure that uh

2036
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:52,000
even if we did somehow go down that road

2037
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:55,760
that we would stay outside of whatever

2038
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:57,760
the error margin is uh on those. And I'm

2039
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:59,840
not sure if that's captured in here. So

2040
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:01,360
that could be a motion that will have to

2041
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:03,760
come later.

2042
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:06,320
» Right. By the way, on the electronic

2043
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:11,280
speed sign on the Parkway, that is

2044
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:13,199
serviced for us by uh King County. Uh um

2045
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:15,120
» It's it's serviced by King County and

2046
01:27:13,199 --> 01:27:15,760
that one is not calibrated annually.

2047
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:18,480
Fair enough.

2048
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:20,960
» And that one um they were out last week.

2049
01:27:18,480 --> 01:27:23,440
As soon as the second digit failed, they

2050
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:25,840
need a part. Uh they expect to have it

2051
01:27:23,440 --> 01:27:28,000
in uh later this week. So hopefully

2052
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:29,679
we'll see that repaired, but um that

2053
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,120
we're actually all over that almost

2054
01:27:29,679 --> 01:27:32,639
immediately. It was just a missing part

2055
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:34,719
they needed.

2056
01:27:32,639 --> 01:27:36,239
» Council member Christ Jensen,

2057
01:27:34,719 --> 01:27:38,159
» Just responding, Council Member Johnson,

2058
01:27:36,239 --> 01:27:39,199
I agree that, you know, as things are

2059
01:27:38,159 --> 01:27:41,199
said, I'm sure that it'll be

2060
01:27:39,199 --> 01:27:42,719
recalibrated and that, you know, they'll

2061
01:27:41,199 --> 01:27:44,400
take a look at the margin of error. The

2062
01:27:42,719 --> 01:27:46,320
the beacon that is on the Parkway is

2063
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:48,639
different than what was used uh for this

2064
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:50,800
study or this study, which was, it's my

2065
01:27:48,639 --> 01:27:54,639
understanding, the ropes, and so it was

2066
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:56,400
not related to that at least it issues.

2067
01:27:54,639 --> 01:27:59,440
Council member Murphy.

2068
01:27:56,400 --> 01:28:02,320
» So, going back to the um

2069
01:27:59,440 --> 01:28:03,920
the motion here and like if I'm not

2070
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:06,639
getting this, just like let me know. But

2071
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:08,560
I think like like prescribing the

2072
01:28:06,639 --> 01:28:11,280
minimum enforcement parameters. I think

2073
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:14,480
like we're really taking some discretion

2074
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:17,280
away and we talking about community

2075
01:28:14,480 --> 01:28:19,920
policing and and you know officers

2076
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:21,840
wishing officers maybe were uh

2077
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:23,920
patrolling and and pulling folks over

2078
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:27,040
more using discretion but we're now

2079
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:29,520
taking away discretion for the cameras

2080
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:31,280
and I if I'm get if I'm if I'm not

2081
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:33,360
getting it right let me know but that

2082
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:36,480
doesn't square with me and I think like

2083
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:37,920
making sure that we have at least

2084
01:28:36,480 --> 01:28:39,600
getting this going operational

2085
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:41,280
flexibility, right? There's going to be

2086
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:43,520
some manner of fine tuning, but when

2087
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:44,960
we're setting the code and the

2088
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,159
enforcement standards, this isn't like,

2089
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:49,679
oh, we're going to go back and cut and

2090
01:28:46,159 --> 01:28:52,719
paste this like a month from now, right?

2091
01:28:49,679 --> 01:28:54,639
So, that's my concern related to the

2092
01:28:52,719 --> 01:28:56,400
motion. If again, if there's a

2093
01:28:54,639 --> 01:29:00,159
misunderstanding on my part, please let

2094
01:28:56,400 --> 01:29:01,760
me know. But, um, wanting to maintain

2095
01:29:00,159 --> 01:29:03,679
some semblance of operational

2096
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:07,040
flexibility is is where I keep getting

2097
01:29:03,679 --> 01:29:08,239
hung up, uh, on this one. Council member

2098
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:11,600
Cotton.

2099
01:29:08,239 --> 01:29:15,360
» Yes. I'd like to dovetail in on what uh

2100
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:17,600
Council Member Murphy is saying is that

2101
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:21,280
um the last thing I want is to take away

2102
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:23,360
the officers abilities out on the street

2103
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:24,880
to either

2104
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:31,199
um

2105
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:32,719
choose to educate to um you know issue a

2106
01:29:31,199 --> 01:29:37,120
citation

2107
01:29:32,719 --> 01:29:41,360
um or you know what whatever they in

2108
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:43,679
their experience and learnings um are um

2109
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:46,080
capable of of you know rendering a

2110
01:29:43,679 --> 01:29:48,080
decision on a particular instance.

2111
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:50,400
That's that's what we pay them for and

2112
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:54,320
that's what they should be doing um and

2113
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:57,840
not what we're necessarily dictating um

2114
01:29:54,320 --> 01:30:00,639
from the the podium so to speak. So I

2115
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:04,560
want to make sure that that uh remains

2116
01:30:00,639 --> 01:30:07,120
intact for the officers um to be able to

2117
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:08,560
have that discretion.

2118
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:10,800
Council member Watton.

2119
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:14,560
» Thank you. And I want to also follow

2120
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:17,600
along because an officer has actually

2121
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:22,080
three options and would under this

2122
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:28,880
system. One is issue a citation. Two

2123
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:32,159
issue a warning or give them the verbal

2124
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:34,719
education for the lack of a better word.

2125
01:30:32,159 --> 01:30:36,639
Those are still things that are viable

2126
01:30:34,719 --> 01:30:39,280
through this system. that does not

2127
01:30:36,639 --> 01:30:42,000
change. And I think that comes back to

2128
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:46,080
community policing, doing what's right,

2129
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:48,239
and having knowing that sometimes it

2130
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:49,840
will only simply be a warning. And I

2131
01:30:48,239 --> 01:30:52,320
want to leave that up to the police

2132
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:54,159
department.

2133
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,440
» Council member Holloway,

2134
01:30:54,159 --> 01:30:58,239
» Morning clarification. We're having the

2135
01:30:55,440 --> 01:31:00,239
officers called,

2136
01:30:58,239 --> 01:31:03,840
guys. Let's be clear what we're talking

2137
01:31:00,239 --> 01:31:07,040
here, okay? And actually there's another

2138
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:10,880
option uh for uh repeat offenders that

2139
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:13,360
get a little bigger hit in the wallet.

2140
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:15,120
So there's an option of repeat offender

2141
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:20,560
you get this price tag versus this price

2142
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:21,920
tag. Um but uh we're manning this so

2143
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:24,000
that we have enough time for the

2144
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:26,159
officers to go through and to do that

2145
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:28,960
decision of

2146
01:31:26,159 --> 01:31:30,719
uh warning.

2147
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:32,480
Probably going to say citation. It's

2148
01:31:30,719 --> 01:31:35,120
probably an appropriate word. Is it

2149
01:31:32,480 --> 01:31:38,960
okay? All right. His citation or

2150
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:41,520
citation for multiple offense,

2151
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:43,199
but we're I haven't heard a conversation

2152
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:46,159
that there will be community engagement

2153
01:31:43,199 --> 01:31:48,239
as a result of that beyond this. U

2154
01:31:46,159 --> 01:31:50,560
that's when they're out doing their

2155
01:31:48,239 --> 01:31:51,840
community. They're out in the streets in

2156
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:54,800
the cars doing their community

2157
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:56,400
engagement at that stage. Um Chief can

2158
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:58,800
correct me if that's part of the

2159
01:31:56,400 --> 01:32:01,280
program, but I had not heard that today.

2160
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:03,360
Council member Washington, but before

2161
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:05,520
you uh make your comment, if I could I

2162
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:06,800
believe we have an answer for you or you

2163
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:07,199
from city attorney.

2164
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:10,320
» Okay.

2165
01:32:07,199 --> 01:32:11,920
» Um so RCW46.63.250

2166
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:15,120
2550 talks about the different

2167
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:17,760
situations where the cameras can be used

2168
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:19,360
and um there's two different sub there's

2169
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:21,120
multiple subsections but two of those

2170
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:23,360
one is school speed zones the other

2171
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:25,360
school walk zones and then there's other

2172
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:27,120
situations where they can be used but

2173
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:29,040
this specific ordinance is only talking

2174
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:30,719
about those school zones.

2175
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:32,239
» Okay. So just a quick followup.

2176
01:32:30,719 --> 01:32:34,960
» Yes, Council Member Washington.

2177
01:32:32,239 --> 01:32:38,000
» Thank you, Mayor. So sorry about the

2178
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:40,400
raspy voice this evening. Um, this

2179
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:44,320
specifically would only be for school

2180
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:48,159
zones during those during those posted

2181
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:52,199
times. Correct.

2182
01:32:48,159 --> 01:32:52,199
» It would be um

2183
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:56,960
» So those posted times of enforcement.

2184
01:32:55,440 --> 01:32:58,480
» Correct. That's my understand because

2185
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,840
that's when it's the school. Yes.

2186
01:32:58,480 --> 01:33:01,840
» Okay.

2187
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:04,960
And so that's just to be clear, that's

2188
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:07,360
by function of state law which governs

2189
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:10,000
how this ordinance would be uh

2190
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:11,360
implemented.

2191
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:12,639
Does that answer your question, Council

2192
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:14,320
Member Washington?

2193
01:33:12,639 --> 01:33:14,960
» Yes. Yes, it does. But I just have a

2194
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:15,760
quick comment.

2195
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:19,600
» Absolutely.

2196
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:21,360
» Thank you, Mayor. So, I absolutely hear

2197
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:23,280
what Council Member Holloway is saying.

2198
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:25,440
This is going to change the way we

2199
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:27,920
police our community.

2200
01:33:25,440 --> 01:33:29,600
I don't know the cost of this program.

2201
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:31,840
And I think there's a real concern there

2202
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:34,080
because it is a new program and we don't

2203
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:37,199
know the cost of it. The question would

2204
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:39,679
be what what harm would there be in

2205
01:33:37,199 --> 01:33:42,719
keeping that piece of discretion, the

2206
01:33:39,679 --> 01:33:44,239
minimum standard with the council.

2207
01:33:42,719 --> 01:33:46,719
Um

2208
01:33:44,239 --> 01:33:48,960
I I think there is discretion still in

2209
01:33:46,719 --> 01:33:52,080
the program for our officers that they

2210
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:54,000
can decide to issue warnings to issue

2211
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:56,320
tickets.

2212
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:58,719
I so I still think there is a large

2213
01:33:56,320 --> 01:34:01,600
piece of discretion still available for

2214
01:33:58,719 --> 01:34:04,760
officers even in keeping this peace with

2215
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,760
the council

2216
01:34:05,199 --> 01:34:12,920
» If I could the um

2217
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:12,920
sorry I lost train of thought.

2218
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:18,560
» So as I said earlier uh I think that I

2219
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:22,480
understand what the underlying concern

2220
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:25,600
is behind the motion um and I I concur

2221
01:34:22,480 --> 01:34:27,199
with that concern. the idea that um and

2222
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:29,920
and correct me if I'm misstating the

2223
01:34:27,199 --> 01:34:32,880
intent here, but the concern being that

2224
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:35,440
um enforcement could change such that we

2225
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:38,639
are paying some private entity enough to

2226
01:34:35,440 --> 01:34:42,080
keep the system going. Um

2227
01:34:38,639 --> 01:34:44,880
the exact mechanism of deciding how and

2228
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:46,560
when our police can and should do what I

2229
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:48,239
I hear the other argument on the other

2230
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:51,120
side of is that really the place of

2231
01:34:48,239 --> 01:34:52,880
counsel or not. I I'm thinking about it.

2232
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:56,400
I'm not sure yet. I haven't come to to

2233
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:59,360
an answer in my own head on that. Um but

2234
01:34:56,400 --> 01:35:02,880
certainly uh uh I do share the concern

2235
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:05,440
of that that underlying problem. Um so

2236
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:08,400
uh I think what I'd like to do is make a

2237
01:35:05,440 --> 01:35:11,760
motion to send this back to committee to

2238
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:14,239
consider the uh issue uh the the two

2239
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:15,280
issues. The first being um council

2240
01:35:14,239 --> 01:35:18,880
involvement in making that

2241
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:22,080
determination. Um but especially and

2242
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:26,320
perhaps more importantly uh how to uh

2243
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:29,760
address the issue of um of how to fund

2244
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:32,320
it if it were to start to uh cost a

2245
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:35,280
significant amount uh such that we're

2246
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:39,360
not policing uh or we're not uh changing

2247
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:42,639
how uh we are um uh enforcing

2248
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:44,159
uh the law to benefit a private company.

2249
01:35:42,639 --> 01:35:47,520
» Okay. Uh hold please.

2250
01:35:44,159 --> 01:35:49,600
» Yes. That was a very long motion. Okay.

2251
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:50,480
Write those words down for us.

2252
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:54,560
» Write those words down.

2253
01:35:50,480 --> 01:35:56,080
» I think you I have stated my intent. I

2254
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:57,280
think that rather I'll just motion to

2255
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:59,199
send back to committee.

2256
01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:01,679
» Okay. Uh could you just hold on? I just

2257
01:35:59,199 --> 01:36:04,080
need to make sure I know the procedure

2258
01:36:01,679 --> 01:36:05,840
because we've got a motion and then a

2259
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:07,600
motion to amend and now another motion.

2260
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:09,120
Just give me a moment with city attorney

2261
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:12,120
to make sure that I understand the

2262
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:12,120
procedure.

2263
01:36:40,480 --> 01:36:45,840
I'm advised that that motion is out of

2264
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:50,000
order at this time because the uh uh

2265
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:52,320
motion to amend is uh the motion is the

2266
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:55,360
motion to amend the motion is on the

2267
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:59,040
floor. So, uh, we could either resolve

2268
01:36:55,360 --> 01:37:00,400
that current pending motion and then

2269
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:04,000
take up you would then have an

2270
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:06,320
opportunity to make this motion or, uh,

2271
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:09,040
if you're so interested, I'm advised you

2272
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:10,800
could, uh, withdraw the current motion

2273
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:12,800
and then we could immediately take up

2274
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:16,000
this motion.

2275
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:17,840
» If second is willing, I am with I I

2276
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:19,760
reserve the right to read motion, but I

2277
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:20,880
withdraw a motion.

2278
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:24,400
» Draw my second.

2279
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:25,119
» All right. Uh so now uh Council Member

2280
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:29,119
Johnson.

2281
01:37:25,119 --> 01:37:30,800
» All right. Uh move to uh send this uh

2282
01:37:29,119 --> 01:37:31,760
back to committee.

2283
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:34,400
» Second.

2284
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:36,880
» All right. Motion to return this item to

2285
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:38,960
committee and seconded by uh made by

2286
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:41,760
Council Member Johnson.

2287
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:45,320
U seconded by Council Member Washington.

2288
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:45,320
Hold on just a minute.

2289
01:37:52,480 --> 01:37:56,199
Council member Washington.

2290
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:08,239
I'd like to amend the motion.

2291
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:12,080
Okay. So, I'd like to make a motion

2292
01:38:08,239 --> 01:38:13,920
amending the motion to return back to

2293
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:16,800
committee

2294
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:20,320
until such time as we have analysis for

2295
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:23,600
alternatives on enforcement options and

2296
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:27,280
service options.

2297
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:30,920
» Count uh is there second to motion by

2298
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:30,920
council member Washington

2299
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:36,800
» Hearing no second. The motion dies for

2300
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:39,600
lack of a second. He can't second

2301
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:40,480
though. He has a he

2302
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:42,000
question.

2303
01:38:40,480 --> 01:38:43,920
» All right. Uh so we're back to the

2304
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:45,280
motion to return to committee. Any

2305
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:46,159
further discussion? Council member

2306
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:47,600
Christensen.

2307
01:38:46,159 --> 01:38:49,119
» Yeah. Thank you. Um so I just have a

2308
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:50,639
couple quick questions and they may be

2309
01:38:49,119 --> 01:38:51,840
directed to the administration. So, it's

2310
01:38:50,639 --> 01:38:53,679
my understanding that in order to

2311
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:55,360
proceed further down the road of whether

2312
01:38:53,679 --> 01:38:57,600
or not we're going to ultimately do

2313
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:59,280
speed cameras in the school zones, we

2314
01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:01,199
need to first authorize it under the

2315
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:02,880
existing Staccomi municipal code before

2316
01:39:01,199 --> 01:39:05,040
we're able to go out and get vendors to

2317
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:06,639
come and give us quotations for how much

2318
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:09,040
it would cost to put in the polls and

2319
01:39:06,639 --> 01:39:10,800
the lights. So, while I do agree that

2320
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:12,639
there it sounds like there's going to

2321
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:14,480
need to be more conversation surrounding

2322
01:39:12,639 --> 01:39:16,320
the price and things like that, in order

2323
01:39:14,480 --> 01:39:18,000
to be actually able to go out and get

2324
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:19,920
that information, we have to authorize

2325
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:22,239
it generally in the municipal code at

2326
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:24,639
this time. So, it's my further

2327
01:39:22,239 --> 01:39:26,320
understanding then that if we just refer

2328
01:39:24,639 --> 01:39:28,719
it back, we'll essentially be killing

2329
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:30,080
the opportunity to do it at this time.

2330
01:39:28,719 --> 01:39:34,639
So, I just want to make sure that's

2331
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:37,119
accurate. Council member Christensen. Um

2332
01:39:34,639 --> 01:39:43,679
» I know it was a whole lot of

2333
01:39:37,119 --> 01:39:46,159
» Um the uh this this were you to approve

2334
01:39:43,679 --> 01:39:47,360
this ordinance tonight,

2335
01:39:46,159 --> 01:39:48,719
nothing will happen.

2336
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:51,199
» Yeah.

2337
01:39:48,719 --> 01:39:54,800
» Because we don't have your authorization

2338
01:39:51,199 --> 01:39:58,480
to engage a vendor. The next step would

2339
01:39:54,800 --> 01:40:01,679
be to go get proposals from multiple

2340
01:39:58,480 --> 01:40:03,280
vendors, bring them back to you, at

2341
01:40:01,679 --> 01:40:06,080
which time you would then either

2342
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:07,760
authorize or not authorize an actual

2343
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:10,960
program to commence under this

2344
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:13,920
authorizing ordinance. But nothing will

2345
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:16,960
happen without a further action by this

2346
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:20,320
council to approve a vendor.

2347
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:22,639
And I would point out any ordinance you

2348
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:23,679
pass, you also can amend. Uh, Council

2349
01:40:22,639 --> 01:40:26,400
Member Holloway,

2350
01:40:23,679 --> 01:40:30,000
» But the statement of requirements and

2351
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:33,840
submitting for proposals is not held

2352
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:35,600
by not passing this tonight. Correct?

2353
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:37,840
» If I could answer, we wouldn't have we

2354
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:38,960
wouldn't know what to ask in the RFP. We

2355
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:44,000
wouldn't know what the standards are

2356
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:45,840
that we're asking them to propose on.

2357
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:48,560
So, for example,

2358
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:52,239
will you ultimately pass

2359
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:54,239
um the recommend just specific

2360
01:40:52,239 --> 01:40:56,159
locations? Will you ultimately pass

2361
01:40:54,239 --> 01:40:58,800
speed cameras at all times? Will it just

2362
01:40:56,159 --> 01:41:00,719
be traffic uh speed uh school zone

2363
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:03,119
cameras? We we don't really know what

2364
01:41:00,719 --> 01:41:04,719
you will ultimately authorize them.

2365
01:41:03,119 --> 01:41:08,719
Therefore, we don't know what to ask the

2366
01:41:04,719 --> 01:41:11,199
proposers to specifically uh propose on.

2367
01:41:08,719 --> 01:41:13,040
But

2368
01:41:11,199 --> 01:41:15,600
I don't believe those are specified by

2369
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:20,480
the actions tonight.

2370
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:22,800
But can we as part of the public safety

2371
01:41:20,480 --> 01:41:26,800
take up those parameter discussions so

2372
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:28,960
that the request for proposals can

2373
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:32,800
proceed?

2374
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:37,679
» Council member Watton. Um let me speak

2375
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:40,159
on on this particular issue and that is

2376
01:41:37,679 --> 01:41:44,719
the reason why we're bringing forward

2377
01:41:40,159 --> 01:41:48,320
the amendment to the municipal code is

2378
01:41:44,719 --> 01:41:51,280
we did take in public comment about the

2379
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:54,800
concern over speeding. We knew that we

2380
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:58,960
didn't have enough enforcement through

2381
01:41:54,800 --> 01:42:02,320
our our officers and we looked for a

2382
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:04,159
solution. This was an easy one to to

2383
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:07,119
review first of all because it's

2384
01:42:04,159 --> 01:42:09,840
available in 20 other cities in the

2385
01:42:07,119 --> 01:42:13,119
state including Isiqua. So it's

2386
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:16,000
compatible. But we also heard in our

2387
01:42:13,119 --> 01:42:18,880
committee concern about making sure that

2388
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:22,719
we address the municipal code first

2389
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:27,360
before we go out and solicit for other

2390
01:42:22,719 --> 01:42:30,400
studies or or other uh RFPs for a system

2391
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:33,360
and which system to use tonight. It's

2392
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:35,280
purely this gives us the ability to move

2393
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:37,920
forward and that was the recommendation

2394
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:40,880
that came through the committee loud and

2395
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:44,800
clear that we needed to address this

2396
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:49,199
piece first and then decide on the

2397
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:52,239
vendor and uh so I would I would put

2398
01:42:49,199 --> 01:42:55,360
that framework in and and the more back

2399
01:42:52,239 --> 01:42:57,119
and forth we go we're not making any

2400
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:59,920
progress and we don't have more

2401
01:42:57,119 --> 01:43:02,000
officers. So, we've got to figure that

2402
01:42:59,920 --> 01:43:04,000
part out. And I understand that, you

2403
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:07,920
know, the concern of the cost, the

2404
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:10,880
concern of ongoing costs,

2405
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:13,520
but we also have other variables going

2406
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:15,679
in, and that's the cost of additional

2407
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:18,400
patrol officers, which we have a pretty

2408
01:43:15,679 --> 01:43:20,639
good idea that we can't add more patrol

2409
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:23,920
officers just to handle this one

2410
01:43:20,639 --> 01:43:26,960
function. And this is a better solution

2411
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:29,679
going forward, we believe. But we also

2412
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:32,080
want to be realistic in knowing that um

2413
01:43:29,679 --> 01:43:34,000
when it's implemented

2414
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:36,320
uh the number of infractions are going

2415
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:39,040
to be higher and and people's habits

2416
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:41,760
will change. But we have to get through

2417
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:45,040
this part first. I encourage you know

2418
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:48,320
you to go ahead and pass

2419
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:49,840
the change the municipal code and then

2420
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:53,440
we can go back to committee and

2421
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:55,199
fine-tune things. But without this step,

2422
01:43:53,440 --> 01:43:58,480
we're going to be caught in this back

2423
01:43:55,199 --> 01:44:01,119
and forth motion. This this is the

2424
01:43:58,480 --> 01:44:03,600
second reading we've had in here, but

2425
01:44:01,119 --> 01:44:06,639
we've been talking about it in public

2426
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:09,119
safety for some time. So anyway, that's

2427
01:44:06,639 --> 01:44:10,719
kind of my perspective.

2428
01:44:09,119 --> 01:44:12,000
» All right, so I've got in the following

2429
01:44:10,719 --> 01:44:14,480
order. We'll take Council Member

2430
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:16,880
Johnson, then Holloway, then Murphy. So,

2431
01:44:14,480 --> 01:44:19,840
Council Member Johnson,

2432
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:22,080
» Uh, so I appreciate that it could be

2433
01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:23,679
easier to address this issue if we had

2434
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:26,080
numbers, but I don't think that we need

2435
01:44:23,679 --> 01:44:27,679
the actual numbers because to me it

2436
01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:29,199
sounded like the underlying issue and

2437
01:44:27,679 --> 01:44:33,280
and the one that I'm taking issue with

2438
01:44:29,199 --> 01:44:34,880
myself is uh the concept of if the price

2439
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:37,199
goes up regardless of what the number

2440
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:41,199
is, then should the enforcement

2441
01:44:37,199 --> 01:44:44,159
mechanism be to then make sure that uh

2442
01:44:41,199 --> 01:44:48,239
we are making up for those additional

2443
01:44:44,159 --> 01:44:50,960
costs. Um, and uh, I don't think that we

2444
01:44:48,239 --> 01:44:53,040
should be adjusting our costs or excuse

2445
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:56,239
me, adjusting our enforcement based on

2446
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:58,400
the cost. We should be enforcing or uh,

2447
01:44:56,239 --> 01:45:00,800
adjusting our enforcement based on the

2448
01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:04,239
need uh, for safety and things like

2449
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:07,280
that. Um so my intent of this motion was

2450
01:45:04,239 --> 01:45:09,520
to go back and address that issue uh at

2451
01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:12,239
the committee level and then come back

2452
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:15,040
and you know sometimes government does

2453
01:45:12,239 --> 01:45:17,679
uh move slowly and uh the reason it does

2454
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:19,840
is that uh if we do move too fast on

2455
01:45:17,679 --> 01:45:21,440
things then um you know there there are

2456
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:23,520
significant consequences sometimes

2457
01:45:21,440 --> 01:45:25,920
frustratingly so there there have been

2458
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:27,760
plenty of things in my four years uh so

2459
01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:30,400
far where I wish I could have moved

2460
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:31,840
faster but I understand that sometimes

2461
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:36,880
you have to go back and you got to

2462
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:40,440
review something for um whatever reason.

2463
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:40,440
» Council member Holloway

2464
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:44,400
don't know if you guys noticed it or

2465
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:45,920
not, but I'll say uh I noticed that

2466
01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:47,360
about twothirds of the enforcement

2467
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:50,560
window for this went out the window

2468
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:52,880
tonight. It wasn't was assumed coming in

2469
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:57,600
here. So things are shifting. Let's get

2470
01:45:52,880 --> 01:46:02,320
this right. But and I refuse to hold an

2471
01:45:57,600 --> 01:46:04,239
RFP hostage for this. That's just not

2472
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:06,400
we're not doing our job before that.

2473
01:46:04,239 --> 01:46:08,400
Okay. So, I would like to amend the

2474
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:10,719
motion to direct public safety to

2475
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:14,000
discuss with administration

2476
01:46:10,719 --> 01:46:18,159
parameters. Uh well, I say specifics

2477
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:20,800
around data required for an RFP.

2478
01:46:18,159 --> 01:46:24,000
So the current motion on the floor is to

2479
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:25,760
return this matter to committee

2480
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:28,560
» And I would like that committee to

2481
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:30,239
discuss information required to support

2482
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:33,239
an RFP.

2483
01:46:30,239 --> 01:46:33,239
» Second.

2484
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:38,560
» Okay. Move.

2485
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:40,320
» So I thought we had a first we had a

2486
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:41,920
motion to send back to committee. Then

2487
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:43,360
we had a motion to amend to return to

2488
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:45,040
committee to discuss analysis on

2489
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:46,080
alternatives and service options. Did

2490
01:46:45,040 --> 01:46:46,880
you get a second?

2491
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:48,480
» That failed.

2492
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:49,040
» That failed tracking. Okay.

2493
01:46:48,480 --> 01:46:49,920
» Yeah.

2494
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:50,639
» Sorry.

2495
01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:50,960
» Okay.

2496
01:46:50,639 --> 01:46:53,280
» Okay.

2497
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:54,960
» Sorry. Thank you for

2498
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:55,520
» How many dinosaurs are going?

2499
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:56,960
» Exactly.

2500
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:58,960
» All right. So, just to be clear, we have

2501
01:46:56,960 --> 01:47:01,679
a motion by council member Holloway,

2502
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:04,560
seconded by

2503
01:47:01,679 --> 01:47:08,400
Council Member Johnson. Thank you. All

2504
01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:11,600
right. Discussion on the motion.

2505
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:14,480
» I'm sorry, mayor. I did not catch um

2506
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:16,239
council member Holloway's uh motion.

2507
01:47:14,480 --> 01:47:18,560
» Sorry, could you state it again? Council

2508
01:47:16,239 --> 01:47:19,840
member Holloway

2509
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:23,600
try.

2510
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:25,920
» So mean. Um

2511
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:28,560
motion direct to direct committee with

2512
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:32,760
administration to discuss information

2513
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:32,760
required to proceed with RFP.

2514
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:38,800
» Point of order. Is that germanine to the

2515
01:47:36,159 --> 01:47:42,440
motion that's on the floor? Council

2516
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:42,440
legal pole, please.

2517
01:48:12,639 --> 01:48:18,320
So the item is not germaine because this

2518
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:19,520
is discussion of an RFP. That's not the

2519
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:20,880
matter that's in front of you. The

2520
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:23,199
matter in front of you tonight is the

2521
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:25,600
adoption of an ordinance. The motion is

2522
01:48:23,199 --> 01:48:28,159
to return that ordinance to committee.

2523
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:30,080
There's no RFP mentioned in this

2524
01:48:28,159 --> 01:48:31,280
ordinance. So it's not germanine to the

2525
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:33,920
topic.

2526
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:35,199
» Chair council member I disagree and

2527
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:35,840
appeal to the council.

2528
01:48:35,199 --> 01:48:37,920
» Okay. So

2529
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:39,199
» I am clarifying the motion to return to

2530
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:42,239
committee to include that.

2531
01:48:39,199 --> 01:48:44,320
» So council member Holloway is um uh

2532
01:48:42,239 --> 01:48:47,360
appealing the decision of the chair to

2533
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:51,040
the full council on uh whether the

2534
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:52,560
matter is his motion is germanine or

2535
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:57,239
not.

2536
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:57,239
Any discussion on that topic?

2537
01:48:57,679 --> 01:49:04,840
Okay.

2538
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:04,840
See none. All those in favor of

2539
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:09,000
» The motion.

2540
01:49:05,440 --> 01:49:09,000
» How do I state that?

2541
01:49:13,119 --> 01:49:18,320
» Retaining the motion for consideration.

2542
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:21,040
» So all those in favor of

2543
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:23,119
uh deciding that the motion is not

2544
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:24,960
gerine

2545
01:49:23,119 --> 01:49:26,639
say I.

2546
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:27,040
» We're deciding the motion is not

2547
01:49:26,639 --> 01:49:29,280
germanine.

2548
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:32,480
» Yeah. The the decision of the chair was

2549
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:35,520
that the motion was not germanine to the

2550
01:49:32,480 --> 01:49:37,520
matter. That question has been appealed

2551
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:41,679
to the council. So now the council must

2552
01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:44,639
decide is it or is it not germanine.

2553
01:49:41,679 --> 01:49:47,280
So the vote an I vote would be that you

2554
01:49:44,639 --> 01:49:50,320
Okay, I'm now saying it backwards.

2555
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:52,800
So let's say it clearly. An I vote would

2556
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:54,800
mean that you think the matter is

2557
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:57,119
gerine.

2558
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:59,280
A nay vote would be that you do not that

2559
01:49:57,119 --> 01:50:01,280
you support the position of the chair

2560
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:03,600
and it is not gerine.

2561
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:06,080
» So with that in mind,

2562
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:07,840
all those in favor that the matter is

2563
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:08,159
germaine say I.

2564
01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:09,119
» I.

2565
01:50:08,159 --> 01:50:10,800
» I.

2566
01:50:09,119 --> 01:50:11,280
» Those opposed say nay.

2567
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:13,520
» Nay.

2568
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:15,199
» Nay.

2569
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:15,520
» Sounds like a roll call.

2570
01:50:15,199 --> 01:50:18,159
» Can you

2571
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:21,440
» The motion does not uh carry. The ruling

2572
01:50:18,159 --> 01:50:23,760
of the chair is upheld.

2573
01:50:21,440 --> 01:50:25,440
» Request for a roll call vote. Okay,

2574
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:26,560
we'll take a roll call vote on the

2575
01:50:25,440 --> 01:50:28,159
matter.

2576
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:29,199
» Point of order.

2577
01:50:28,159 --> 01:50:33,199
» What's your point?

2578
01:50:29,199 --> 01:50:36,960
» Is it a 2/3 requirement to sustain the

2579
01:50:33,199 --> 01:50:38,320
motion or is it 50% plus one?

2580
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:41,520
» Good question. We'll just check that.

2581
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:43,760
So, hold

2582
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:47,080
» We haven't gone the age

2583
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:47,080
more. So,

2584
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:04,000
Yeah. And to be clear, I'm only aware of

2585
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:06,639
one other time that a motion was a

2586
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:12,320
Germaine motion was appealed. Wasn't me.

2587
01:51:06,639 --> 01:51:15,639
So in 20 years is this very seldom done.

2588
01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:15,639
You need next.

2589
01:51:19,119 --> 01:51:23,520
It may be two. This time we'll declare a

2590
01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:26,639
fivem minute recess of the council.

2591
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:29,600
We'll be back in five minutes at 9:55.

2592
01:51:26,639 --> 01:51:34,520
9:56

2593
01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:34,520
8. Let's try that again. 856.

2594
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:37,800
» Hour.

2595
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:47,440
» Okay. The uh

2596
01:51:45,199 --> 01:51:50,639
uh

2597
01:51:47,440 --> 01:51:51,520
the um

2598
01:51:50,639 --> 01:51:52,560
» The book said

2599
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:54,480
» The book said

2600
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:58,159
» It's going to the book.

2601
01:51:54,480 --> 01:52:01,599
» The motion to um appeal is a majority

2602
01:51:58,159 --> 01:52:04,400
motion only, not a two-thirds. Um so, uh

2603
01:52:01,599 --> 01:52:07,360
we'll proceed with the roll call vote.

2604
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:09,040
Um Council Member Murphy,

2605
01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:10,320
» Nay.

2606
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:12,000
» Council member Watton,

2607
01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:13,440
» Nay.

2608
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:14,639
Council member Holloway.

2609
01:52:13,440 --> 01:52:15,920
» Hi.

2610
01:52:14,639 --> 01:52:17,040
» Council member Washington.

2611
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:18,400
» Hi.

2612
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:19,440
» Council member Cotton.

2613
01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:20,960
» Nay.

2614
01:52:19,440 --> 01:52:21,920
» Council member Christensen.

2615
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:23,280
» Nay.

2616
01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:24,320
» Council member Johnson.

2617
01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:28,080
» I.

2618
01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:34,000
» Uh the tally is four. Nay. And three I.

2619
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:36,159
The um uh motion does see the the appeal

2620
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:40,320
does not

2621
01:52:36,159 --> 01:52:43,199
pass. mot the motion is determined not

2622
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:45,440
germaine.

2623
01:52:43,199 --> 01:52:47,760
» So let's see where we stand. We have a

2624
01:52:45,440 --> 01:52:53,520
motion

2625
01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:55,920
» We have a uh hold on we stand

2626
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:57,599
we

2627
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:58,800
» I think we're back to motion to table

2628
01:52:57,599 --> 01:52:59,280
back to committee.

2629
01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:02,960
» Exactly.

2630
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:06,000
» So the motion on the floor is to uh send

2631
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:07,840
the ordinance back to committee.

2632
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:09,040
Any further discussion on that? Council

2633
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:11,920
member Christensen.

2634
01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:13,280
» Thank you. Um, so I was on I'm obviously

2635
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:14,639
no longer on public safety committee

2636
01:53:13,280 --> 01:53:17,040
now, but I was on public safety

2637
01:53:14,639 --> 01:53:18,639
committee for the year that we went

2638
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:20,800
through where we discussed this at

2639
01:53:18,639 --> 01:53:24,320
Nauseium where we had significant public

2640
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:26,320
feedback. Guys, we are having 7,000

2641
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:27,920
violations at Timber Ridge over a

2642
01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:30,960
three-day period while the beacons are

2643
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:33,679
going. It feels like sending it back to

2644
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:35,920
committee is is going to slow it down.

2645
01:53:33,679 --> 01:53:38,960
Okay. Well, there is a demonstrated

2646
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:41,679
ongoing public safety risk for the kids.

2647
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:44,239
Like I think that generally speaking,

2648
01:53:41,679 --> 01:53:46,880
folks are in line with going forward

2649
01:53:44,239 --> 01:53:50,960
with trying to get quotes and other

2650
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:54,159
things and generally speaking in line

2651
01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:55,920
with getting this moving forward. I just

2652
01:53:54,159 --> 01:53:57,599
I really worry that if we're sending it

2653
01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:58,800
back to committee, we're going to have

2654
01:53:57,599 --> 01:54:00,480
to go back through. We're going to have

2655
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:01,920
to renotice everything else. It'll be at

2656
01:54:00,480 --> 01:54:03,520
least a month or two before we're even

2657
01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:05,599
back in a situation where we can have

2658
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:08,000
this go forward. This is not the last

2659
01:54:05,599 --> 01:54:09,360
touch point on this, okay? There will be

2660
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:10,800
other opportunities. You'll get to

2661
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:12,239
review the vendors before they come.

2662
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:14,719
You'll get to talk about the specific

2663
01:54:12,239 --> 01:54:16,239
locations, but again, this is a step in

2664
01:54:14,719 --> 01:54:18,400
the process towards making sure that the

2665
01:54:16,239 --> 01:54:22,400
kids are safe.

2666
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:25,440
I just I don't think that we can wait

2667
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:27,599
any longer. Again, having not only our

2668
01:54:25,440 --> 01:54:28,719
citizens come and tell us, but then

2669
01:54:27,599 --> 01:54:33,159
we've gotten the proof that they're

2670
01:54:28,719 --> 01:54:33,159
right. like let's move this forward.

2671
01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:39,679
» Council member Murphy,

2672
01:54:35,599 --> 01:54:42,000
» I echo that completely. I think um

2673
01:54:39,679 --> 01:54:43,679
we need to we need to move forward and

2674
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:46,800
deliver some results here and I think

2675
01:54:43,679 --> 01:54:49,280
that the framework that uh in the

2676
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:50,800
ordinance is very strong. I think it's

2677
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:53,599
it comports with what other

2678
01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:58,159
municipalities have done on this matter.

2679
01:54:53,599 --> 01:55:00,320
Um, I think we have reams of data both

2680
01:54:58,159 --> 01:55:02,000
within our city and within other

2681
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:04,800
municipalities that show the

2682
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:07,360
effectiveness of these uh of speed

2683
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:12,560
cameras of the need that we have for the

2684
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:14,239
speed cameras. Um, I I fear similarly to

2685
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:16,800
Council Member Christensen that we're

2686
01:55:14,239 --> 01:55:21,199
just going to be delaying this inevit uh

2687
01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:25,199
indefinitely. So, um I I don't support

2688
01:55:21,199 --> 01:55:27,840
um the motion to bring bring back to uh

2689
01:55:25,199 --> 01:55:29,920
bring back to um to committee and I I

2690
01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:32,480
would hope that we can get some results

2691
01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:34,480
uh done tonight.

2692
01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:37,520
» All right. Any further discussion on the

2693
01:55:34,480 --> 01:55:39,840
motion to return this topic to

2694
01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:43,119
committee? Council member Cotton,

2695
01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:46,560
» Just to echo for the second or third or

2696
01:55:43,119 --> 01:55:47,840
fourth time that I agree with council

2697
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:52,719
members

2698
01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:54,960
Murphy, Watton, Christensen. Um, I'm not

2699
01:55:52,719 --> 01:55:58,560
on the road anymore, but let me tell

2700
01:55:54,960 --> 01:56:03,440
you, the tragedy that hits any community

2701
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:06,000
is when a child is killed in a in a

2702
01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:07,840
pedestrian accident, and I've been on

2703
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:09,599
too many of those in various

2704
01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:12,880
jurisdictions through the course of my

2705
01:56:09,599 --> 01:56:15,199
career. I don't want our folks, our fire

2706
01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:18,400
department, our police officers to be

2707
01:56:15,199 --> 01:56:20,320
the ones responding into a school zone

2708
01:56:18,400 --> 01:56:24,960
while we're deliberating this back and

2709
01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:27,199
forth. So, that's where I stand.

2710
01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:29,280
» All right. Any further discussion on the

2711
01:56:27,199 --> 01:56:30,880
motion to return this topic to

2712
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:32,800
committee?

2713
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:34,960
Seeing none,

2714
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:37,360
all those in favor of the motion to

2715
01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:40,480
return to committee say I.

2716
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:42,320
» I. I. Those opposed say nay.

2717
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:46,000
» Nay.

2718
01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:48,960
» I count four nay, three I. The motion to

2719
01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:52,719
return to committee is not upheld. We

2720
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:55,199
return to the motion to adopt the

2721
01:56:52,719 --> 01:56:56,480
ordinance. Um, and any further

2722
01:56:55,199 --> 01:56:57,040
discussion on that? Council member

2723
01:56:56,480 --> 01:56:59,280
Holloway

2724
01:56:57,040 --> 01:57:01,840
» Would like to reintroduce my motion on

2725
01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:03,280
uh whatever the heck it was, minimum

2726
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:04,480
enforcement parameters. All

2727
01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:06,639
» Right. I think we might have that

2728
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:08,560
wording. Let's take a shot here.

2729
01:57:06,639 --> 01:57:09,119
» I think we do. When does that go over?

2730
01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:11,119
Let's

2731
01:57:09,119 --> 01:57:13,840
» Have that word.

2732
01:57:11,119 --> 01:57:18,119
» Yes, I have it as

2733
01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:18,119
move to amend section 10.13.020

2734
01:57:18,639 --> 01:57:24,239
to add section D which states the city

2735
01:57:21,679 --> 01:57:26,000
establishment or sorry the establishment

2736
01:57:24,239 --> 01:57:28,480
and changes of minimum minimum

2737
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:31,599
enforcement parameters must be presented

2738
01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:33,040
to the city council for approval.

2739
01:57:31,599 --> 01:57:33,840
» Councilor Holloway, is that correct?

2740
01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:38,040
» Correct.

2741
01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:38,040
» Is there a second to this motion?

2742
01:57:38,639 --> 01:57:41,440
Second.

2743
01:57:39,360 --> 01:57:46,400
» Seconded by council member Washington.

2744
01:57:41,440 --> 01:57:49,719
Any discussion of the motion to amend

2745
01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:49,719
the ordinance.

2746
01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:55,360
All right. Seeing none, we'll move to a

2747
01:57:52,639 --> 01:57:58,000
vote. Those in favor of amending the

2748
01:57:55,360 --> 01:57:59,760
ordinance

2749
01:57:58,000 --> 01:58:00,239
say I.

2750
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:01,280
» I.

2751
01:58:00,239 --> 01:58:03,040
» I.

2752
01:58:01,280 --> 01:58:03,440
» Those opposed say nay.

2753
01:58:03,040 --> 01:58:08,320
» Nay.

2754
01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:10,880
» Nay. Motion to amend um is not passed

2755
01:58:08,320 --> 01:58:12,880
and we return to the motion as

2756
01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:15,040
originally made for the ordinance. Is

2757
01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:17,360
there any further discussion? Council

2758
01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:21,040
member Johnson.

2759
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:23,360
» Um so I do think that uh there are some

2760
01:58:21,040 --> 01:58:26,000
things that uh can make this better that

2761
01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:28,560
I've discussed tonight and that will be

2762
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:31,920
able to continue being discussed as this

2763
01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:34,560
process moves forward. Um, but uh I

2764
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:39,440
still think that uh this option of using

2765
01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:42,800
the cameras uh is at least functional

2766
01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:44,400
for the time being. Um while I I would

2767
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:46,880
hope that we'll make investments in the

2768
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:48,880
future to the physical infrastructure to

2769
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:51,599
make our roads look like the speed

2770
01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:53,119
limits that they are supposed to be. Um

2771
01:58:51,599 --> 01:58:55,599
I have again pointed to is we love

2772
01:58:53,119 --> 01:58:57,760
pointing to Isiqua, don't we? Uh Isqua

2773
01:58:55,599 --> 01:58:59,599
has traffic calming zone. I mentioned in

2774
01:58:57,760 --> 01:59:01,280
our previous council meeting how the

2775
01:58:59,599 --> 01:59:04,159
school that I work at has a traffic

2776
01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:05,599
calming zone. Um so I realize that that

2777
01:59:04,159 --> 01:59:08,960
may be more expensive. It may be a

2778
01:59:05,599 --> 01:59:13,280
longer term thing. Um but uh but at

2779
01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:15,920
least this allows us to do something. Um

2780
01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:19,280
I uh do have also some significant

2781
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:22,480
concerns about the issue of uh privacy

2782
01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:25,840
for people. It's not so much that that

2783
01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:28,400
the technicality of this exact proposal

2784
01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:32,080
um

2785
01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:34,159
it it nudges up against a line in terms

2786
01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:37,040
of um you know whether the officers are

2787
01:59:34,159 --> 01:59:38,639
actually seeing it and uh monitoring

2788
01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:40,080
people and stuff. But you know it's not

2789
01:59:38,639 --> 01:59:42,239
that I think that any of our council

2790
01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:44,159
members here are like yeah let's go 1984

2791
01:59:42,239 --> 01:59:46,639
or anything like that. I mean, it's just

2792
01:59:44,159 --> 01:59:48,719
that this is something that can over

2793
01:59:46,639 --> 01:59:52,080
time become referenced by future

2794
01:59:48,719 --> 01:59:54,800
councils to uh introduce things like uh

2795
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:59,040
cameras for red lights and uh other

2796
01:59:54,800 --> 02:00:02,880
kinds of enforcement. Uh that said, the

2797
01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:06,639
uh committee uh and staff bent over

2798
02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:09,679
backwards to avoid those kinds of issues

2799
02:00:06,639 --> 02:00:11,920
and uh I am just very thankful to uh the

2800
02:00:09,679 --> 02:00:14,880
council's commitment to uh a lot of

2801
02:00:11,920 --> 02:00:18,800
those principles about privacy and uh

2802
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:22,239
and community policing. Um so seeing as

2803
02:00:18,800 --> 02:00:24,639
how on that particular issue, I'm not

2804
02:00:22,239 --> 02:00:26,480
aware of a way to make it better. uh I

2805
02:00:24,639 --> 02:00:28,000
don't have a proposed amendment to make

2806
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:31,119
it

2807
02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:34,239
m to to better improve citizen privacy.

2808
02:00:31,119 --> 02:00:35,520
Uh so as a result um uh even though I do

2809
02:00:34,239 --> 02:00:38,320
have some issues with certain things

2810
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:39,920
about uh the program um and I think that

2811
02:00:38,320 --> 02:00:43,360
some of those may be addressed in the

2812
02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:46,400
future as we go for an RFP etc etc uh I

2813
02:00:43,360 --> 02:00:47,760
am in favor of the underlying motion as

2814
02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:49,920
it stands.

2815
02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:52,400
» Right. And just as a point of

2816
02:00:49,920 --> 02:00:54,800
information, um

2817
02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:56,480
the systems that we're looking at, and

2818
02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:57,840
you'll hear more about this, assuming

2819
02:00:56,480 --> 02:01:00,639
you pass this and we go through the

2820
02:00:57,840 --> 02:01:01,520
proposal process, do not capture images

2821
02:01:00,639 --> 02:01:01,920
of the driver,

2822
02:01:01,520 --> 02:01:04,000
» Right?

2823
02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:08,000
» They capture images of the license plate

2824
02:01:04,000 --> 02:01:10,400
of the car. Uh Council Member Murphy.

2825
02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:13,520
» Yeah. Um I'll just say I'm really proud

2826
02:01:10,400 --> 02:01:15,119
to support this. I think, um I the staff

2827
02:01:13,520 --> 02:01:18,560
deserve a ton of credit for getting it

2828
02:01:15,119 --> 02:01:20,800
to the place that it's in. We've had, as

2829
02:01:18,560 --> 02:01:22,719
mentioned, a lot of public engagement.

2830
02:01:20,800 --> 02:01:25,199
Obviously, many of many of that predated

2831
02:01:22,719 --> 02:01:27,280
my time on council. And I really want to

2832
02:01:25,199 --> 02:01:31,280
thank the chief for uh bringing this to

2833
02:01:27,280 --> 02:01:34,159
us and going in and kind of making this

2834
02:01:31,280 --> 02:01:35,520
um uh a key priority for the department

2835
02:01:34,159 --> 02:01:38,800
and for public safety, for the

2836
02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:41,119
community. So, I I strongly uh I think

2837
02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:43,360
this is something that is a great first

2838
02:01:41,119 --> 02:01:46,080
step for us. excited to see kind of how

2839
02:01:43,360 --> 02:01:47,199
we move forward as it relates to

2840
02:01:46,080 --> 02:01:49,440
different vendors that we'll be

2841
02:01:47,199 --> 02:01:51,679
evaluating and things of that nature.

2842
02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:54,239
But, you know, we're solving an issue.

2843
02:01:51,679 --> 02:01:56,639
We're solving for an issue that has, you

2844
02:01:54,239 --> 02:02:00,159
know, that's backed in data on a

2845
02:01:56,639 --> 02:02:02,400
solution that's backed in data and um

2846
02:02:00,159 --> 02:02:05,520
something where we've had significant

2847
02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:07,679
public engagement on, right? We don't

2848
02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:09,840
always we don't often get that. we don't

2849
02:02:07,679 --> 02:02:12,800
often get folks kind of coming in and

2850
02:02:09,840 --> 02:02:15,840
being persistent and showing up and and

2851
02:02:12,800 --> 02:02:17,440
um you know asking for something. So I'm

2852
02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:20,880
proud that we're able to deliver some

2853
02:02:17,440 --> 02:02:26,320
results for them and um very supportive

2854
02:02:20,880 --> 02:02:28,880
of uh of the underlying um motion.

2855
02:02:26,320 --> 02:02:32,520
Any further discussion?

2856
02:02:28,880 --> 02:02:32,520
» Council member Holloway

2857
02:02:33,440 --> 02:02:37,040
» With the I assume passing of this coming

2858
02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:38,639
here shortly. I hope that in the next

2859
02:02:37,040 --> 02:02:40,480
public safety meeting we can have a

2860
02:02:38,639 --> 02:02:44,520
discussion on the RFP and steps moving

2861
02:02:40,480 --> 02:02:44,520
forward. Okay.

2862
02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:51,280
Any further discussion?

2863
02:02:49,199 --> 02:02:54,320
Seeing none,

2864
02:02:51,280 --> 02:02:56,480
uh we'll uh vote. All those in favor of

2865
02:02:54,320 --> 02:02:57,119
the ordinance say I.

2866
02:02:56,480 --> 02:02:58,080
» I.

2867
02:02:57,119 --> 02:03:00,560
» I.

2868
02:02:58,080 --> 02:03:04,239
» Those opposed say nay.

2869
02:03:00,560 --> 02:03:06,719
The ordinance passes unanimously.

2870
02:03:04,239 --> 02:03:09,520
Moving on to

2871
02:03:06,719 --> 02:03:11,679
committee reports. Uh public safety

2872
02:03:09,520 --> 02:03:14,320
committee. Uh there was anformational

2873
02:03:11,679 --> 02:03:16,800
item in your agenda packets.

2874
02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:18,000
» Yes. Starting uh and council member

2875
02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:20,400
Watton.

2876
02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:22,560
» Thank you, Mayor. Um in light of the

2877
02:03:20,400 --> 02:03:26,159
hour, I'm just going to point out a

2878
02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:31,440
couple things. uh every quarter the fire

2879
02:03:26,159 --> 02:03:33,199
department has a report to let us know

2880
02:03:31,440 --> 02:03:35,119
where they're at, but it's also part of

2881
02:03:33,199 --> 02:03:38,960
the accreditation, the ongoing

2882
02:03:35,119 --> 02:03:42,239
monitoring of of how our tax dollars are

2883
02:03:38,960 --> 02:03:45,760
being deployed. Uh the good news is the

2884
02:03:42,239 --> 02:03:48,560
number of uh responses have gone down

2885
02:03:45,760 --> 02:03:53,119
slightly, which is a good trend to have.

2886
02:03:48,560 --> 02:03:55,679
Um secondly, uh mutual aid continues to

2887
02:03:53,119 --> 02:03:58,639
be something that we monitor on a

2888
02:03:55,679 --> 02:04:01,440
quarterly basis. Mutual aid to our

2889
02:03:58,639 --> 02:04:04,560
citizens means that

2890
02:04:01,440 --> 02:04:08,000
we may go out to other districts and

2891
02:04:04,560 --> 02:04:10,880
we're we're going to respond to those um

2892
02:04:08,000 --> 02:04:12,800
incidents that are closest to us even

2893
02:04:10,880 --> 02:04:16,480
though they're being covered by for

2894
02:04:12,800 --> 02:04:18,400
instance east side fire. But the offset

2895
02:04:16,480 --> 02:04:21,119
to it and and you'll see that in the

2896
02:04:18,400 --> 02:04:24,320
report is that when we have an incident,

2897
02:04:21,119 --> 02:04:28,239
they're sending multiple um sometimes

2898
02:04:24,320 --> 02:04:31,360
multiple units out to respond with us.

2899
02:04:28,239 --> 02:04:34,000
So, um we're always concerned about

2900
02:04:31,360 --> 02:04:35,440
about the costs and the benefit back.

2901
02:04:34,000 --> 02:04:38,000
And then the other one, and that's

2902
02:04:35,440 --> 02:04:40,560
transport services because that's

2903
02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:43,119
revenue that we get by transporting

2904
02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:46,000
patients. And sometimes you see our aid

2905
02:04:43,119 --> 02:04:50,159
car go over to Isiziqua or down to

2906
02:04:46,000 --> 02:04:53,199
Belleview um for hospital transfers from

2907
02:04:50,159 --> 02:04:55,199
our hospital in particular. So those are

2908
02:04:53,199 --> 02:04:56,880
things that we're always monitoring. We

2909
02:04:55,199 --> 02:04:59,280
want to be transparent and that's why

2910
02:04:56,880 --> 02:05:03,040
this report is put forward. the chief

2911
02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:05,360
and his team to do an excellent job. And

2912
02:05:03,040 --> 02:05:08,800
I got a chance to spend 10 hours with

2913
02:05:05,360 --> 02:05:10,159
them a Sunday before last just and and

2914
02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:12,480
the only reason why I'm doing this

2915
02:05:10,159 --> 02:05:16,400
report, I think, is because I used a

2916
02:05:12,480 --> 02:05:20,159
fire hose to wash out the fire truck

2917
02:05:16,400 --> 02:05:22,639
bay. And I think I may be the first one

2918
02:05:20,159 --> 02:05:26,000
other than council member Cotton to do a

2919
02:05:22,639 --> 02:05:28,000
forced entry practice as well. Um, and

2920
02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:30,159
it was great spending time with them.

2921
02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:32,719
And the good news is we didn't have a

2922
02:05:30,159 --> 02:05:35,199
single call during the 10 hours, but

2923
02:05:32,719 --> 02:05:37,360
they were absolutely busy doing things

2924
02:05:35,199 --> 02:05:39,360
to make sure that our community is safe.

2925
02:05:37,360 --> 02:05:42,000
And for that, I'm proud and grateful for

2926
02:05:39,360 --> 02:05:44,000
the work of our fire department.

2927
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:45,840
» So, I'm a bit confused, Council Member

2928
02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:49,199
Watton, because when I had my first

2929
02:05:45,840 --> 02:05:51,520
mayor meeting with the firefighters,

2930
02:05:49,199 --> 02:05:54,400
five minutes into the meeting, the alarm

2931
02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:56,880
went and they all left. So, I I don't

2932
02:05:54,400 --> 02:05:58,719
know. Should I draw any conclusions from

2933
02:05:56,880 --> 02:06:02,480
your experiences compared to mine?

2934
02:05:58,719 --> 02:06:05,199
» Just invite me next time.

2935
02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:06,719
» Okay. Um, moving on. Any further public

2936
02:06:05,199 --> 02:06:08,480
safety committee report?

2937
02:06:06,719 --> 02:06:09,760
» That's all that we have this evening.

2938
02:06:08,480 --> 02:06:11,360
Thank you very much.

2939
02:06:09,760 --> 02:06:12,000
» Community development committee, any

2940
02:06:11,360 --> 02:06:13,760
report?

2941
02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:15,440
» Nothing at this time, Mr. Mayor.

2942
02:06:13,760 --> 02:06:16,159
» Parks and Public Works Committee, any

2943
02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:17,840
report?

2944
02:06:16,159 --> 02:06:20,639
» No report at this time.

2945
02:06:17,840 --> 02:06:25,199
» Finance and Administration Committee.

2946
02:06:20,639 --> 02:06:27,520
Um, agenda bill introduction discussion.

2947
02:06:25,199 --> 02:06:31,119
» Thank you, mayor. Uh, so this was an

2948
02:06:27,520 --> 02:06:34,639
item that was brought to uh FNA uh to

2949
02:06:31,119 --> 02:06:36,639
discuss uh whom who or whom I'm probably

2950
02:06:34,639 --> 02:06:39,520
using those incorrectly, but should read

2951
02:06:36,639 --> 02:06:41,920
in the introduction of uh our agenda

2952
02:06:39,520 --> 02:06:44,079
bills, whether it should be the mayor or

2953
02:06:41,920 --> 02:06:46,639
the chair of the committee. And uh there

2954
02:06:44,079 --> 02:06:49,360
were arguments in both directions uh for

2955
02:06:46,639 --> 02:06:51,760
that. Um, obviously historically it's

2956
02:06:49,360 --> 02:06:53,360
been the chair. Um, mayor, did you want

2957
02:06:51,760 --> 02:06:55,679
to say anything uh about this?

2958
02:06:53,360 --> 02:06:58,239
» Yeah, just this is just a point of look,

2959
02:06:55,679 --> 02:07:01,599
we want to serve you however's best.

2960
02:06:58,239 --> 02:07:03,920
There is this sort of this idea that the

2961
02:07:01,599 --> 02:07:06,960
administration writes the introduction,

2962
02:07:03,920 --> 02:07:08,960
but then you end up reading it. So just

2963
02:07:06,960 --> 02:07:12,159
we offer, hey, if you'd rather have us

2964
02:07:08,960 --> 02:07:15,280
read it, that's fine. But uh the other

2965
02:07:12,159 --> 02:07:18,400
point is to be clear in committees you

2966
02:07:15,280 --> 02:07:20,719
can change the introduction to that

2967
02:07:18,400 --> 02:07:22,159
which you would like to read. So either

2968
02:07:20,719 --> 02:07:23,760
way you want to go we just want to say

2969
02:07:22,159 --> 02:07:26,800
we're we're here to support whichever

2970
02:07:23,760 --> 02:07:27,840
way you want to go and um just let us

2971
02:07:26,800 --> 02:07:30,239
know. We're just trying to address

2972
02:07:27,840 --> 02:07:32,320
something that looked a little sort of

2973
02:07:30,239 --> 02:07:34,239
um odd forcing you to read something you

2974
02:07:32,320 --> 02:07:36,400
actually may not have realized you could

2975
02:07:34,239 --> 02:07:38,960
change.

2976
02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:40,960
Council member Johnson. Uh so this uh

2977
02:07:38,960 --> 02:07:42,800
isn't a motion to to change the way that

2978
02:07:40,960 --> 02:07:45,040
we've been doing things uh that's on the

2979
02:07:42,800 --> 02:07:49,760
table presently, just a discussion as it

2980
02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:52,000
says. Um so uh I think that if we could

2981
02:07:49,760 --> 02:07:53,679
just take as a piece or as a point of

2982
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:54,800
information, if that's even really a

2983
02:07:53,679 --> 02:07:56,880
point, I don't think it's even a point,

2984
02:07:54,800 --> 02:07:59,360
but anyway, as information uh and a

2985
02:07:56,880 --> 02:08:01,440
reminder that chairs can uh assist in

2986
02:07:59,360 --> 02:08:03,840
the crafting of those introductory

2987
02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:06,400
statements and and take some ownership,

2988
02:08:03,840 --> 02:08:07,599
uh that they may do so. uh that it

2989
02:08:06,400 --> 02:08:10,239
doesn't have to just be the

2990
02:08:07,599 --> 02:08:13,679
administration writes them and then um

2991
02:08:10,239 --> 02:08:15,040
you know it just is what it is.

2992
02:08:13,679 --> 02:08:17,440
» Council member Washington.

2993
02:08:15,040 --> 02:08:19,040
» Yeah, just a quick question, Mr. Mayor.

2994
02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:22,239
How would that be done? Is that a matter

2995
02:08:19,040 --> 02:08:24,000
of working with city attorney or working

2996
02:08:22,239 --> 02:08:24,960
with staff or what would be the best

2997
02:08:24,000 --> 02:08:26,719
process for that?

2998
02:08:24,960 --> 02:08:29,920
» Each chair can just work with the

2999
02:08:26,719 --> 02:08:32,320
director that in their committee that

3000
02:08:29,920 --> 02:08:35,119
brought that item. If you just let them

3001
02:08:32,320 --> 02:08:36,639
know what you want, um they can change

3002
02:08:35,119 --> 02:08:38,560
that to whatever wording you'd like. And

3003
02:08:36,639 --> 02:08:39,599
if you need that to sort of facilitate

3004
02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:41,679
these, it's like, hey, could you give me

3005
02:08:39,599 --> 02:08:43,679
the wording so I could electronically so

3006
02:08:41,679 --> 02:08:45,199
I could just change that? We can just

3007
02:08:43,679 --> 02:08:48,480
facilitate that for you. So just speak

3008
02:08:45,199 --> 02:08:52,239
with the director of that's bringing the

3009
02:08:48,480 --> 02:08:54,719
matter to you in your committee.

3010
02:08:52,239 --> 02:08:56,719
Council member Johnson,

3011
02:08:54,719 --> 02:08:58,639
» Uh I I'll yield.

3012
02:08:56,719 --> 02:09:00,000
» Council member Christensen.

3013
02:08:58,639 --> 02:09:02,079
» Thanks. So just so that I understand

3014
02:09:00,000 --> 02:09:03,520
then because I know that in the past on

3015
02:09:02,079 --> 02:09:04,800
council there's been significant push

3016
02:09:03,520 --> 02:09:06,239
back if anybody's tweaking anything

3017
02:09:04,800 --> 02:09:08,480
after it's left committee and before it

3018
02:09:06,239 --> 02:09:10,880
gets brought to council. So I guess at

3019
02:09:08,480 --> 02:09:12,560
what point would the chair then be

3020
02:09:10,880 --> 02:09:13,920
weighing in and changing the language of

3021
02:09:12,560 --> 02:09:14,960
what would ultimately be in the agenda

3022
02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:15,679
packet because I just want to make sure

3023
02:09:14,960 --> 02:09:17,360
that

3024
02:09:15,679 --> 02:09:19,840
» However the language is presented it's

3025
02:09:17,360 --> 02:09:22,320
it's what kind of that committee has

3026
02:09:19,840 --> 02:09:22,960
decided so that there's you know he

3027
02:09:22,320 --> 02:09:24,639
there as well

3028
02:09:22,960 --> 02:09:26,560
» At the time of your committee meeting.

3029
02:09:24,639 --> 02:09:30,560
» Okay.

3030
02:09:26,560 --> 02:09:33,199
or prior or prior because we uh do try

3031
02:09:30,560 --> 02:09:35,440
and show you the things prior to your

3032
02:09:33,199 --> 02:09:37,119
committee meeting. But either prior to

3033
02:09:35,440 --> 02:09:39,280
or at the committee meeting, we're happy

3034
02:09:37,119 --> 02:09:41,360
to facilitate you changing the

3035
02:09:39,280 --> 02:09:44,079
introduction. Remember, the introduction

3036
02:09:41,360 --> 02:09:46,800
is just what you read that the body of

3037
02:09:44,079 --> 02:09:50,239
uh the background section still has all

3038
02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:51,840
the information that um administration

3039
02:09:50,239 --> 02:09:54,639
has written kind of explaining and

3040
02:09:51,840 --> 02:09:56,159
supporting the the proposal. But um this

3041
02:09:54,639 --> 02:09:58,159
is really to let you since you're the

3042
02:09:56,159 --> 02:10:00,079
ones that are going to speak that

3043
02:09:58,159 --> 02:10:02,719
section to allow you to write what it is

3044
02:10:00,079 --> 02:10:04,960
that you're speaking and to have your

3045
02:10:02,719 --> 02:10:07,119
committee's um you know input and

3046
02:10:04,960 --> 02:10:09,440
support in that.

3047
02:10:07,119 --> 02:10:11,360
» Council member Johnson. Then I think

3048
02:10:09,440 --> 02:10:14,000
hopefully just one final thought uh from

3049
02:10:11,360 --> 02:10:15,840
my end is um that I hope the

3050
02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:18,079
administration still intends to continue

3051
02:10:15,840 --> 02:10:20,480
writing the uh what could be interpreted

3052
02:10:18,079 --> 02:10:23,040
as a rough draft but would also be

3053
02:10:20,480 --> 02:10:26,079
serviceable as a final draft if no

3054
02:10:23,040 --> 02:10:27,760
further input were given. Um and then I

3055
02:10:26,079 --> 02:10:29,840
just perhaps have a request that in the

3056
02:10:27,760 --> 02:10:31,520
past sometimes the introduction has been

3057
02:10:29,840 --> 02:10:32,400
multiple paragraphs and then we're

3058
02:10:31,520 --> 02:10:34,000
supposed to just read the first

3059
02:10:32,400 --> 02:10:36,639
paragraph. there could just be a very

3060
02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:38,960
clear introduction is one paragraph and

3061
02:10:36,639 --> 02:10:39,760
then below that is is a heading. That's

3062
02:10:38,960 --> 02:10:41,840
the next thing.

3063
02:10:39,760 --> 02:10:44,320
» You may have noticed that since January

3064
02:10:41,840 --> 02:10:46,880
1 of this year, you have not received

3065
02:10:44,320 --> 02:10:50,000
multiple paragraph introductions.

3066
02:10:46,880 --> 02:10:52,079
» Appreciate that.

3067
02:10:50,000 --> 02:10:54,480
» So that uh we are already attempting to

3068
02:10:52,079 --> 02:10:56,639
absolutely address that. But and that to

3069
02:10:54,480 --> 02:10:58,719
be honest, that's what gave rise to this

3070
02:10:56,639 --> 02:11:00,000
is wait a minute, we're we're changing

3071
02:10:58,719 --> 02:11:02,800
the language. Okay, we've got this

3072
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:04,320
objective, but by the way, isn't it

3073
02:11:02,800 --> 02:11:06,000
really for the council member that's

3074
02:11:04,320 --> 02:11:07,840
going to read it to ultimately decide if

3075
02:11:06,000 --> 02:11:10,239
that wording is right and and as you

3076
02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:11,360
point out uh the committee along with

3077
02:11:10,239 --> 02:11:15,199
that chair. So we just want to

3078
02:11:11,360 --> 02:11:17,679
facilitate that. Um or if you didn't

3079
02:11:15,199 --> 02:11:19,840
want to do that say well if you want to

3080
02:11:17,679 --> 02:11:21,920
if you want to if you want us to read it

3081
02:11:19,840 --> 02:11:23,440
since we wrote it we're happy to do that

3082
02:11:21,920 --> 02:11:26,159
but more importantly if you would like

3083
02:11:23,440 --> 02:11:29,320
to write it um happy to facilitate that

3084
02:11:26,159 --> 02:11:29,320
as well.

3085
02:11:30,000 --> 02:11:34,000
Okay. Any further discussion?

3086
02:11:32,079 --> 02:11:36,239
» Uh, nothing else from FNA.

3087
02:11:34,000 --> 02:11:38,560
» All right. Uh, committee of the whole,

3088
02:11:36,239 --> 02:11:41,040
we have a topic.

3089
02:11:38,560 --> 02:11:44,400
See if I got this right. Discussion of

3090
02:11:41,040 --> 02:11:47,280
resolution 15-42,

3091
02:11:44,400 --> 02:11:49,360
paragraphs five, six, and seven. Did I

3092
02:11:47,280 --> 02:11:51,360
get that right, Council Member Cotton?

3093
02:11:49,360 --> 02:11:53,920
» Five, six, and seven. Yeah. And they

3094
02:11:51,360 --> 02:11:59,599
actually dovetailed right into what FNA

3095
02:11:53,920 --> 02:12:03,599
just brought up. um uh if I might in um

3096
02:11:59,599 --> 02:12:06,480
several areas. This the this is the

3097
02:12:03,599 --> 02:12:08,320
rules of procedure for the city council

3098
02:12:06,480 --> 02:12:10,800
um under

3099
02:12:08,320 --> 02:12:12,800
um some of the responsibilities of the

3100
02:12:10,800 --> 02:12:16,079
committee chairperson.

3101
02:12:12,800 --> 02:12:20,239
Um that's 6.4.2

3102
02:12:16,079 --> 02:12:23,440
and uh and also under department heads

3103
02:12:20,239 --> 02:12:26,480
that's rule seven. There's um it

3104
02:12:23,440 --> 02:12:27,760
specifically mentions that the uh

3105
02:12:26,480 --> 02:12:30,719
responsibility of a committee

3106
02:12:27,760 --> 02:12:32,960
chairperson is to solicit the views of

3107
02:12:30,719 --> 02:12:35,840
the department heads of each department

3108
02:12:32,960 --> 02:12:39,440
affected by each matter referred to the

3109
02:12:35,840 --> 02:12:42,400
committee. Um which

3110
02:12:39,440 --> 02:12:46,159
uh and also under the department heads

3111
02:12:42,400 --> 02:12:48,079
7.1 input to committees. It shall be the

3112
02:12:46,159 --> 02:12:50,239
right and responsibility of each

3113
02:12:48,079 --> 02:12:52,719
department head to make his or her

3114
02:12:50,239 --> 02:12:54,960
position known to the council committee

3115
02:12:52,719 --> 02:12:57,599
on each matter for council action

3116
02:12:54,960 --> 02:13:01,599
affecting the department referred to the

3117
02:12:57,599 --> 02:13:05,360
committee. Um, so I'm very happy to hear

3118
02:13:01,599 --> 02:13:08,639
the input that FNA is is is lining out

3119
02:13:05,360 --> 02:13:12,880
that we can actually have communication

3120
02:13:08,639 --> 02:13:17,119
with our department heads. Um, and uh

3121
02:13:12,880 --> 02:13:20,560
discuss pending business. uh in rule

3122
02:13:17,119 --> 02:13:25,679
five the uh one of the things that's in

3123
02:13:20,560 --> 02:13:28,480
uh uh brought to bear is that the um

3124
02:13:25,679 --> 02:13:34,400
matters that come on specifically agenda

3125
02:13:28,480 --> 02:13:36,960
bills coming onto the agenda um it's um

3126
02:13:34,400 --> 02:13:41,119
the responsible council committee or

3127
02:13:36,960 --> 02:13:44,320
department head is to um provide the

3128
02:13:41,119 --> 02:13:47,520
agenda bill completed. Um it does

3129
02:13:44,320 --> 02:13:49,840
mention signatures of both the chair and

3130
02:13:47,520 --> 02:13:52,560
the department head. Um so they

3131
02:13:49,840 --> 02:13:54,560
obviously need to confer

3132
02:13:52,560 --> 02:13:56,800
um and discuss the items that are going

3133
02:13:54,560 --> 02:14:00,800
to be coming forward. And so we just

3134
02:13:56,800 --> 02:14:03,679
want to make sure that um that that

3135
02:14:00,800 --> 02:14:07,599
these are being uh these items are being

3136
02:14:03,679 --> 02:14:10,400
addressed in the process and um that

3137
02:14:07,599 --> 02:14:12,719
however we decide to do that. if there's

3138
02:14:10,400 --> 02:14:14,400
going to be a standardized approach, if

3139
02:14:12,719 --> 02:14:18,159
there's going to be it's up to the

3140
02:14:14,400 --> 02:14:21,840
individual chairs, um they want to do

3141
02:14:18,159 --> 02:14:25,760
communications by phone, by email, via

3142
02:14:21,840 --> 02:14:28,560
meeting. Um those are all things that um

3143
02:14:25,760 --> 02:14:31,920
would certainly be of benefit to keep

3144
02:14:28,560 --> 02:14:35,040
the lines of communication open between

3145
02:14:31,920 --> 02:14:38,239
committees, committee chairs, and their

3146
02:14:35,040 --> 02:14:40,159
department head and department staff.

3147
02:14:38,239 --> 02:14:43,440
Um,

3148
02:14:40,159 --> 02:14:46,320
specifically in uh rule five, there's

3149
02:14:43,440 --> 02:14:49,360
there's two reports that I've never seen

3150
02:14:46,320 --> 02:14:54,239
and I just wondered if these are still

3151
02:14:49,360 --> 02:15:00,320
um being utilized. Um uh it refers to

3152
02:14:54,239 --> 02:15:02,719
the um city clerk um and the city

3153
02:15:00,320 --> 02:15:05,280
administrator shall prepare and submit

3154
02:15:02,719 --> 02:15:08,159
to city council and the department heads

3155
02:15:05,280 --> 02:15:10,719
a monthly report of pending council

3156
02:15:08,159 --> 02:15:12,560
business containing a statement of the

3157
02:15:10,719 --> 02:15:15,119
status of each matter referred to

3158
02:15:12,560 --> 02:15:18,000
council committee or department head

3159
02:15:15,119 --> 02:15:21,920
upon which no final action of council

3160
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:24,000
has been taken. um at the council. The

3161
02:15:21,920 --> 02:15:26,639
report shall be called the council

3162
02:15:24,000 --> 02:15:29,760
pending business list and she'll be

3163
02:15:26,639 --> 02:15:33,679
included in the agenda packet.

3164
02:15:29,760 --> 02:15:37,280
And then the um there's also a council

3165
02:15:33,679 --> 02:15:40,800
meeting follow-up report that the clerk

3166
02:15:37,280 --> 02:15:42,800
repairs after each council meeting uh

3167
02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:45,360
containing the actions taken at the

3168
02:15:42,800 --> 02:15:48,639
council meeting. This report is to be

3169
02:15:45,360 --> 02:15:50,560
circulated at a minimum to the mayor,

3170
02:15:48,639 --> 02:15:53,119
members of the council and department

3171
02:15:50,560 --> 02:15:54,719
heads. Um and then of course the

3172
02:15:53,119 --> 02:15:57,840
department heads should be responsible

3173
02:15:54,719 --> 02:16:00,480
for following through. So um I don't

3174
02:15:57,840 --> 02:16:04,880
know if anybody has any other input on

3175
02:16:00,480 --> 02:16:08,639
that if this can go to FNA for you know

3176
02:16:04,880 --> 02:16:11,760
review of the ideas or you know the

3177
02:16:08,639 --> 02:16:16,000
these I couldn't find that there was any

3178
02:16:11,760 --> 02:16:20,239
um amendments that removed these reports

3179
02:16:16,000 --> 02:16:23,040
or these um um working relationships and

3180
02:16:20,239 --> 02:16:25,280
recommendations. So, I just wanted to

3181
02:16:23,040 --> 02:16:26,239
make sure that that these things are

3182
02:16:25,280 --> 02:16:27,760
addressed. All

3183
02:16:26,239 --> 02:16:29,119
» Right. So, Council Member Cotton, it

3184
02:16:27,760 --> 02:16:30,719
sounds like a discussion item. You're

3185
02:16:29,119 --> 02:16:32,479
not making a motion at this time.

3186
02:16:30,719 --> 02:16:34,800
» That is correct. I just wanted to bring

3187
02:16:32,479 --> 02:16:39,200
it up and and uh see if there was any

3188
02:16:34,800 --> 02:16:42,160
additional council input or um referral

3189
02:16:39,200 --> 02:16:43,120
to committee. I realize the lateness of

3190
02:16:42,160 --> 02:16:44,639
the hour.

3191
02:16:43,120 --> 02:16:47,439
» Council member Holloway.

3192
02:16:44,639 --> 02:16:50,080
» So, appropriate the council rules and

3193
02:16:47,439 --> 02:16:53,599
procedures. the the mayor pro Tim has

3194
02:16:50,080 --> 02:16:55,280
the ball on that and through FNA to make

3195
02:16:53,599 --> 02:16:57,439
changes revisions bring that through. So

3196
02:16:55,280 --> 02:16:58,479
let's take this back to FNA have

3197
02:16:57,439 --> 02:17:01,040
discussions. There's probably some

3198
02:16:58,479 --> 02:17:05,240
archaic things in there that just some

3199
02:17:01,040 --> 02:17:05,240
house cleaning we need to take care of.

3200
02:17:06,479 --> 02:17:10,880
» Okay. Any further discussion?

3201
02:17:09,359 --> 02:17:13,439
» Council member Murphy.

3202
02:17:10,880 --> 02:17:14,800
» Yeah. So, I um you know, as the new new

3203
02:17:13,439 --> 02:17:16,479
person up here, really appreciate

3204
02:17:14,800 --> 02:17:19,120
Council Member Cotton kind of just

3205
02:17:16,479 --> 02:17:20,399
raising this and I think um you know, I

3206
02:17:19,120 --> 02:17:23,280
have read through this, but there's a

3207
02:17:20,399 --> 02:17:25,760
lot here. So, um I think a reminder of

3208
02:17:23,280 --> 02:17:27,760
some of what's um what's in our rules

3209
02:17:25,760 --> 02:17:29,840
and procedures, what's being followed,

3210
02:17:27,760 --> 02:17:32,000
what is maybe archaic that needs

3211
02:17:29,840 --> 02:17:35,120
adjustment, and what's in here that

3212
02:17:32,000 --> 02:17:37,359
maybe we need to um you know, continue

3213
02:17:35,120 --> 02:17:39,120
to receive, I think is all really good.

3214
02:17:37,359 --> 02:17:42,160
So, I hope that we can continue that

3215
02:17:39,120 --> 02:17:43,920
discussion. Um, and I'm sure it'll

3216
02:17:42,160 --> 02:17:46,000
happen at FNA, but perhaps something

3217
02:17:43,920 --> 02:17:48,319
just to to consider for the council

3218
02:17:46,000 --> 02:17:49,679
retreat.

3219
02:17:48,319 --> 02:17:51,599
Council member Christensen,

3220
02:17:49,679 --> 02:17:53,439
» I I agree. It's a fantastic time to take

3221
02:17:51,599 --> 02:17:55,200
a look at it. Um, and again, going

3222
02:17:53,439 --> 02:17:57,359
through the things that we should be

3223
02:17:55,200 --> 02:17:59,040
doing probably or things that maybe

3224
02:17:57,359 --> 02:18:00,639
don't make sense anymore, but also just

3225
02:17:59,040 --> 02:18:02,960
I think to have a general conversation.

3226
02:18:00,639 --> 02:18:04,800
Obviously, we have a new administration

3227
02:18:02,960 --> 02:18:06,160
uh in place and so there will be I'm

3228
02:18:04,800 --> 02:18:07,599
sure a lot of conversations. I don't

3229
02:18:06,160 --> 02:18:08,960
whether it's the council retreat or it

3230
02:18:07,599 --> 02:18:10,559
can be sooner just so that everybody

3231
02:18:08,960 --> 02:18:12,319
kind of understands the best way to go

3232
02:18:10,559 --> 02:18:13,760
forward and everybody's in the lane that

3233
02:18:12,319 --> 02:18:15,200
they're supposed to be in just to make

3234
02:18:13,760 --> 02:18:16,559
sure that you know we're doing the best

3235
02:18:15,200 --> 02:18:18,160
work that we can for the residents. I

3236
02:18:16,559 --> 02:18:20,319
think would be really helpful. Also,

3237
02:18:18,160 --> 02:18:22,399
just based on today, we may want to have

3238
02:18:20,319 --> 02:18:25,040
the uh Jurassic Parliament lady come

3239
02:18:22,399 --> 02:18:26,559
back because it seems like we're we're

3240
02:18:25,040 --> 02:18:28,800
getting in it and we're we're hobbling

3241
02:18:26,559 --> 02:18:30,160
through. But um you know, it might might

3242
02:18:28,800 --> 02:18:31,519
be helpful to have her bring her

3243
02:18:30,160 --> 02:18:34,160
dinosaurs back in

3244
02:18:31,519 --> 02:18:36,080
» So that you are aware.

3245
02:18:34,160 --> 02:18:38,719
» They were not. We started asking in

3246
02:18:36,080 --> 02:18:40,880
January, not available until June.

3247
02:18:38,719 --> 02:18:44,240
» The lady herself has retired,

3248
02:18:40,880 --> 02:18:45,840
» But her firm has other uh trainers, none

3249
02:18:44,240 --> 02:18:47,359
of which none of whom are available

3250
02:18:45,840 --> 02:18:48,960
until

3251
02:18:47,359 --> 02:18:52,719
um

3252
02:18:48,960 --> 02:18:56,559
uh June was the earliest,

3253
02:18:52,719 --> 02:18:57,760
but we have it is a significant cost.

3254
02:18:56,559 --> 02:19:00,319
» Okay.

3255
02:18:57,760 --> 02:19:02,559
» Significant and well beyond any budget

3256
02:19:00,319 --> 02:19:05,760
that we have. So, this is something that

3257
02:19:02,559 --> 02:19:07,439
we could um if you like, you know, talk

3258
02:19:05,760 --> 02:19:10,559
about or if you'd like to spring this up

3259
02:19:07,439 --> 02:19:13,040
at FNA, but um figuring out how to to be

3260
02:19:10,559 --> 02:19:15,840
honest, I sort of um walked away from it

3261
02:19:13,040 --> 02:19:18,960
when I saw we had no budget for it. Um I

3262
02:19:15,840 --> 02:19:21,840
think it's really valuable training um

3263
02:19:18,960 --> 02:19:23,760
and I thought um okay, got to figure out

3264
02:19:21,840 --> 02:19:26,800
how to pay for this. And I don't have a

3265
02:19:23,760 --> 02:19:28,880
solution to that yet. But um obviously

3266
02:19:26,800 --> 02:19:31,760
for what it's worth, I agree that that's

3267
02:19:28,880 --> 02:19:34,559
extremely valuable training. Um there

3268
02:19:31,760 --> 02:19:38,719
are other ways other than having her or

3269
02:19:34,559 --> 02:19:40,800
them come here. So perhaps um perhaps

3270
02:19:38,719 --> 02:19:42,399
city attorney and I can take a little to

3271
02:19:40,800 --> 02:19:45,280
try and get ourselves a little better

3272
02:19:42,399 --> 02:19:46,960
trained so uh we can uh kind of support

3273
02:19:45,280 --> 02:19:48,240
you a bit more. But I I understand that

3274
02:19:46,960 --> 02:19:49,840
you're also bringing up the training

3275
02:19:48,240 --> 02:19:52,720
that all of you would get as well and

3276
02:19:49,840 --> 02:19:54,000
it's it's incredibly valuable. Yeah. Do

3277
02:19:52,720 --> 02:19:54,720
you have follow Council Member

3278
02:19:54,000 --> 02:19:57,120
Christensen?

3279
02:19:54,720 --> 02:19:58,560
» Yeah. Um then maybe just the the

3280
02:19:57,120 --> 02:20:00,720
conversation or training between like

3281
02:19:58,560 --> 02:20:03,439
the roles of of the mayor and council

3282
02:20:00,720 --> 02:20:04,720
would be great. And then another idea um

3283
02:20:03,439 --> 02:20:07,680
just in terms of that I know that the

3284
02:20:04,720 --> 02:20:10,000
AWC has put out her trainings before and

3285
02:20:07,680 --> 02:20:11,439
I know that the city has video

3286
02:20:10,000 --> 02:20:12,960
recordings. I know that would not be

3287
02:20:11,439 --> 02:20:14,479
particularly exciting but it may still

3288
02:20:12,960 --> 02:20:16,319
be helpful. You could have some popcorn

3289
02:20:14,479 --> 02:20:17,600
or something and you know get your own

3290
02:20:16,319 --> 02:20:20,560
little dinosaurs.

3291
02:20:17,600 --> 02:20:23,359
» Okay. we uh let us um look into that and

3292
02:20:20,560 --> 02:20:25,280
if it's acceptable to the council, we

3293
02:20:23,359 --> 02:20:28,880
can either bring back ideas here or

3294
02:20:25,280 --> 02:20:30,960
perhaps take some ideas to FNA um and uh

3295
02:20:28,880 --> 02:20:34,640
try to kind of bring you guys into the

3296
02:20:30,960 --> 02:20:35,359
loop on options and cost and so forth.

3297
02:20:34,640 --> 02:20:37,920
» Thank you.

3298
02:20:35,359 --> 02:20:40,399
» Okay, any other discussion on this

3299
02:20:37,920 --> 02:20:43,280
topic?

3300
02:20:40,399 --> 02:20:46,280
All right. Um moving on to mayor's

3301
02:20:43,280 --> 02:20:46,280
report.

3302
02:20:47,439 --> 02:20:50,640
Yeah.

3303
02:20:48,960 --> 02:20:53,280
» Um

3304
02:20:50,640 --> 02:20:55,600
we had the blood event town hall on

3305
02:20:53,280 --> 02:20:58,240
March 4th.

3306
02:20:55,600 --> 02:21:00,880
We had a great turnout. We had um we

3307
02:20:58,240 --> 02:21:03,280
counted 37 residents. We had two of us

3308
02:21:00,880 --> 02:21:05,280
count the same number. So that was very

3309
02:21:03,280 --> 02:21:07,359
encouraging. We had a lot more people

3310
02:21:05,280 --> 02:21:10,560
there. We had press there. We had some

3311
02:21:07,359 --> 02:21:14,560
other folks. We had um Washington State

3312
02:21:10,560 --> 02:21:16,880
Patrol turned out three officers. Um

3313
02:21:14,560 --> 02:21:19,280
um

3314
02:21:16,880 --> 02:21:20,880
yeah, Chief, did I say that right? It's

3315
02:21:19,280 --> 02:21:24,399
captain and two officers. What's the

3316
02:21:20,880 --> 02:21:27,520
correct way to describe that?

3317
02:21:24,399 --> 02:21:29,200
» No, no, no. The um Oh, the of the state

3318
02:21:27,520 --> 02:21:31,920
patrol.

3319
02:21:29,200 --> 02:21:33,680
» Yeah, captain and two sergeants. So,

3320
02:21:31,920 --> 02:21:36,880
that was fantastic. Our residents were

3321
02:21:33,680 --> 02:21:38,960
able to talk with them. Um our residents

3322
02:21:36,880 --> 02:21:41,040
were able to see that they turned out um

3323
02:21:38,960 --> 02:21:44,160
to talk about the flood event and to

3324
02:21:41,040 --> 02:21:48,479
support us. Um, we had a fantastic

3325
02:21:44,160 --> 02:21:51,439
presentation. Um, we asked our staff,

3326
02:21:48,479 --> 02:21:54,479
this was not a presentation by mayor or

3327
02:21:51,439 --> 02:21:56,800
council members. This was our directors

3328
02:21:54,479 --> 02:21:59,280
connecting with our community. We asked

3329
02:21:56,800 --> 02:22:02,399
them to give um so of the hour that we

3330
02:21:59,280 --> 02:22:04,800
so we had about an hour of um a

3331
02:22:02,399 --> 02:22:06,960
structured time and then another half

3332
02:22:04,800 --> 02:22:08,319
hour following that where we just put

3333
02:22:06,960 --> 02:22:09,920
our directors available in different

3334
02:22:08,319 --> 02:22:11,840
corners of the room and let folks go

3335
02:22:09,920 --> 02:22:14,640
talk to them, ask questions, give input.

3336
02:22:11,840 --> 02:22:17,680
But what we did was for about 20 minutes

3337
02:22:14,640 --> 02:22:20,000
give um kind of an overview of what we

3338
02:22:17,680 --> 02:22:21,680
saw from the city, what our directors

3339
02:22:20,000 --> 02:22:24,399
saw as the significant events that

3340
02:22:21,680 --> 02:22:26,000
happened and the lessons that we

3341
02:22:24,399 --> 02:22:27,920
learned, things that we can improve on

3342
02:22:26,000 --> 02:22:30,800
going forward. So that was all shared in

3343
02:22:27,920 --> 02:22:33,280
the presentation. Um you really missed

3344
02:22:30,800 --> 02:22:36,560
out a fantastic presentation. My

3345
02:22:33,280 --> 02:22:39,120
favorite part is the firefighters

3346
02:22:36,560 --> 02:22:42,000
climbing in the back of a

3347
02:22:39,120 --> 02:22:43,520
dump truck that was then driven out

3348
02:22:42,000 --> 02:22:45,439
through the water because it was heavy

3349
02:22:43,520 --> 02:22:48,160
enough and had high enough clearance to

3350
02:22:45,439 --> 02:22:50,319
rescue folks that were stranded in cars.

3351
02:22:48,160 --> 02:22:52,800
Um, but there was other just fantastic

3352
02:22:50,319 --> 02:22:54,800
stories there. In any event, then we

3353
02:22:52,800 --> 02:22:56,319
asked the public to spend about 20

3354
02:22:54,800 --> 02:22:58,240
minutes

3355
02:22:56,319 --> 02:23:00,319
breaking into groups and then giving us

3356
02:22:58,240 --> 02:23:02,720
feedback on things we did well that we

3357
02:23:00,319 --> 02:23:05,920
want to make sure we keep doing well.

3358
02:23:02,720 --> 02:23:07,439
And then the last 20 minutes was tell us

3359
02:23:05,920 --> 02:23:09,760
things that you saw that would be

3360
02:23:07,439 --> 02:23:11,840
additional areas for improvement. And so

3361
02:23:09,760 --> 02:23:14,319
we captured all of that. We're going to

3362
02:23:11,840 --> 02:23:15,920
have a report out to you of that. You'll

3363
02:23:14,319 --> 02:23:17,840
see that coming up in your committees

3364
02:23:15,920 --> 02:23:20,800
this next cycle. We'll be heading

3365
02:23:17,840 --> 02:23:22,800
towards a report out to the uh public.

3366
02:23:20,800 --> 02:23:24,880
And then most importantly, that's being

3367
02:23:22,800 --> 02:23:26,240
put into an action plan of how we're

3368
02:23:24,880 --> 02:23:28,399
going to address all those areas for

3369
02:23:26,240 --> 02:23:31,280
improvement. You'll be seeing that as

3370
02:23:28,399 --> 02:23:34,160
well in your in in the coming weeks.

3371
02:23:31,280 --> 02:23:36,640
So great event, uh, great turnout, great

3372
02:23:34,160 --> 02:23:39,680
job by our presenters. Um, if you get a

3373
02:23:36,640 --> 02:23:41,600
chance to because our presenters,

3374
02:23:39,680 --> 02:23:42,800
that's not what they do day in day out.

3375
02:23:41,600 --> 02:23:44,080
What they do is they go solve the

3376
02:23:42,800 --> 02:23:46,560
problems in our community. They're the

3377
02:23:44,080 --> 02:23:50,479
folks that get things done. But Chief

3378
02:23:46,560 --> 02:23:52,160
Hores was there. Um, uh, Chief, uh, uh,

3379
02:23:50,479 --> 02:23:53,920
Bailey was there and, uh, parks and

3380
02:23:52,160 --> 02:23:55,600
public works director Hamlin did a

3381
02:23:53,920 --> 02:23:58,160
fantastic job of presenting, I thought.

3382
02:23:55,600 --> 02:23:59,760
And just so you know, there's a bunch of

3383
02:23:58,160 --> 02:24:01,439
rehearsals that they did to get

3384
02:23:59,760 --> 02:24:04,560
themselves ready for that. So, just a

3385
02:24:01,439 --> 02:24:07,439
fantastic job. And then a just super job

3386
02:24:04,560 --> 02:24:10,080
by our support folks that arranged for

3387
02:24:07,439 --> 02:24:11,920
the event. Big thank you to um Snomi

3388
02:24:10,080 --> 02:24:16,720
Valley School District for hosting us at

3389
02:24:11,920 --> 02:24:19,600
Mount Sai High. Um but we had uh some

3390
02:24:16,720 --> 02:24:23,200
food available, drinks available. we had

3391
02:24:19,600 --> 02:24:24,640
some ability to look after kids um and

3392
02:24:23,200 --> 02:24:26,640
uh so that their parents could

3393
02:24:24,640 --> 02:24:29,120
participate fully. It was just a great

3394
02:24:26,640 --> 02:24:32,240
effort by our staff and please give them

3395
02:24:29,120 --> 02:24:35,920
your thanks when you have time. Uh Twin

3396
02:24:32,240 --> 02:24:37,760
Peaks Day was Tuesday, February 24th. We

3397
02:24:35,920 --> 02:24:39,520
had a great turnout for those that you

3398
02:24:37,760 --> 02:24:42,240
haven't those of you that haven't

3399
02:24:39,520 --> 02:24:44,399
participated in this. the uh the sign

3400
02:24:42,240 --> 02:24:47,040
which is in our lobby. Uh the Twin Peaks

3401
02:24:44,399 --> 02:24:49,280
sign is we take it out, we mount it, we

3402
02:24:47,040 --> 02:24:52,479
take it out and we put it on the Renick

3403
02:24:49,280 --> 02:24:55,359
Road where um where it was in the Twin

3404
02:24:52,479 --> 02:24:59,120
Peaks series and the number of people

3405
02:24:55,359 --> 02:25:02,800
that turn out from all over the world is

3406
02:24:59,120 --> 02:25:06,399
amazing. There was well over 50 people

3407
02:25:02,800 --> 02:25:08,479
uh I thought um my count wasn't verified

3408
02:25:06,399 --> 02:25:12,479
but my count was well over 50 people

3409
02:25:08,479 --> 02:25:14,160
turned out um and uh they just enjoy it

3410
02:25:12,479 --> 02:25:16,160
so much and that's a great tourist draw

3411
02:25:14,160 --> 02:25:19,520
for Snowqualami for the whole upper

3412
02:25:16,160 --> 02:25:20,960
valley um great event

3413
02:25:19,520 --> 02:25:24,800
draw to your attention the city of

3414
02:25:20,960 --> 02:25:26,960
Isiqua is encouraging city of Snowquami

3415
02:25:24,800 --> 02:25:29,280
and valley residents to support efforts

3416
02:25:26,960 --> 02:25:32,800
that they're focused on to keep the

3417
02:25:29,280 --> 02:25:34,240
planned Sound Transit uh line three,

3418
02:25:32,800 --> 02:25:37,439
which would provide service between

3419
02:25:34,240 --> 02:25:39,120
Kirkland and Belleview and Isiqua.

3420
02:25:37,439 --> 02:25:41,760
There's a big question at Sound Transit

3421
02:25:39,120 --> 02:25:45,359
whether that line is going to stay in

3422
02:25:41,760 --> 02:25:48,319
the plan or not. Um as a reminder,

3423
02:25:45,359 --> 02:25:49,920
residents here, while we don't we're not

3424
02:25:48,319 --> 02:25:51,680
part of that taxing zone, we don't pay

3425
02:25:49,920 --> 02:25:53,359
the property tax. Many our residents

3426
02:25:51,680 --> 02:25:54,880
have been paying that sales tax for a

3427
02:25:53,359 --> 02:25:57,840
long long time when they go and they

3428
02:25:54,880 --> 02:26:00,319
shop inside the zone. and uh it's a

3429
02:25:57,840 --> 02:26:02,640
service that um they would very likely

3430
02:26:00,319 --> 02:26:05,040
very likely uh take advantage of. So,

3431
02:26:02,640 --> 02:26:07,600
it's something I think is of interest.

3432
02:26:05,040 --> 02:26:08,960
Um just be aware that that's um a

3433
02:26:07,600 --> 02:26:10,960
significant issue and I think the city

3434
02:26:08,960 --> 02:26:13,680
of Isiqua would appreciate any help from

3435
02:26:10,960 --> 02:26:15,920
many of us uh as well as our residents

3436
02:26:13,680 --> 02:26:17,600
in trying to support them keeping that

3437
02:26:15,920 --> 02:26:19,120
line in the plan.

3438
02:26:17,600 --> 02:26:20,640
» Mayor

3439
02:26:19,120 --> 02:26:22,160
Council Johnson know if they still have

3440
02:26:20,640 --> 02:26:25,920
any of those nice t-shirts.

3441
02:26:22,160 --> 02:26:27,760
» I do not know. They do have some some uh

3442
02:26:25,920 --> 02:26:30,080
t-shirts that sort of say keep the line

3443
02:26:27,760 --> 02:26:31,920
and they I don't exactly what it says

3444
02:26:30,080 --> 02:26:34,479
keep line three but and then they've

3445
02:26:31,920 --> 02:26:36,240
been uh big groups of them have been

3446
02:26:34,479 --> 02:26:38,160
going to sound transit meetings to try

3447
02:26:36,240 --> 02:26:40,399
and send the message the community

3448
02:26:38,160 --> 02:26:42,240
really wants this. So anyone that can

3449
02:26:40,399 --> 02:26:44,000
help out with that I think would would

3450
02:26:42,240 --> 02:26:44,880
be helping our residents. Council member

3451
02:26:44,000 --> 02:26:46,560
Christensen.

3452
02:26:44,880 --> 02:26:48,880
» Yeah. Just a question about whether

3453
02:26:46,560 --> 02:26:50,800
council would consider signing on to a

3454
02:26:48,880 --> 02:26:52,479
letter in support of that. I know that

3455
02:26:50,800 --> 02:26:54,399
it did come up at the meeting that

3456
02:26:52,479 --> 02:26:56,960
councilor Hall and I Holloway and I

3457
02:26:54,399 --> 02:26:58,720
attended with the tribe as well. Um so

3458
02:26:56,960 --> 02:27:01,120
that may be something to consider doing

3459
02:26:58,720 --> 02:27:03,840
a a group letter in support of that.

3460
02:27:01,120 --> 02:27:06,399
» I will um circulate to you. Um I did

3461
02:27:03,840 --> 02:27:08,319
sign a letter in support on behalf of

3462
02:27:06,399 --> 02:27:09,920
the city, not on behalf of you, but on

3463
02:27:08,319 --> 02:27:13,280
behalf of the city, I will circulate it

3464
02:27:09,920 --> 02:27:15,760
to you and um a letter if you all were

3465
02:27:13,280 --> 02:27:18,080
interested in signing similar to that I

3466
02:27:15,760 --> 02:27:20,080
think would be very helpful to the whole

3467
02:27:18,080 --> 02:27:21,520
process. So, I'll get that circulated to

3468
02:27:20,080 --> 02:27:23,040
you. Council member Christensen,

3469
02:27:21,520 --> 02:27:24,800
» If you get it to me by Monday, I'll sign

3470
02:27:23,040 --> 02:27:27,760
it.

3471
02:27:24,800 --> 02:27:30,479
» I'll have to read it first, but

3472
02:27:27,760 --> 02:27:33,760
» Okay. Um

3473
02:27:30,479 --> 02:27:36,399
we were contacted um

3474
02:27:33,760 --> 02:27:38,720
uh over the last uh well since our last

3475
02:27:36,399 --> 02:27:41,760
meeting so over the last two weeks by

3476
02:27:38,720 --> 02:27:45,600
the US 8th district representative Kim

3477
02:27:41,760 --> 02:27:47,600
Shrier whose district Snowqualami is in

3478
02:27:45,600 --> 02:27:49,359
uh with a potential federal funding

3479
02:27:47,600 --> 02:27:52,479
opportunity

3480
02:27:49,359 --> 02:27:54,880
um that um wasn't really on our radar.

3481
02:27:52,479 --> 02:27:57,280
We had to move quickly. Um, you'll hear

3482
02:27:54,880 --> 02:28:00,800
more about this in committee this coming

3483
02:27:57,280 --> 02:28:02,160
cycle, but we submitted a proposal. Um,

3484
02:28:00,800 --> 02:28:04,080
we'll give you more of the details on

3485
02:28:02,160 --> 02:28:06,960
that, but I just mentioned this because

3486
02:28:04,080 --> 02:28:09,359
a that's a great opportunity, but b be

3487
02:28:06,960 --> 02:28:12,240
aware that our staff really scrambled to

3488
02:28:09,359 --> 02:28:16,640
meet that short deadline and go in with

3489
02:28:12,240 --> 02:28:18,880
what I think is a a very um a request

3490
02:28:16,640 --> 02:28:20,399
for a very a very good request,

3491
02:28:18,880 --> 02:28:23,040
something that should be received well.

3492
02:28:20,399 --> 02:28:24,960
So, um, we did work with, uh,

3493
02:28:23,040 --> 02:28:27,600
Congresswoman Shrier's office regarding

3494
02:28:24,960 --> 02:28:29,120
was sure we got that in in time, uh,

3495
02:28:27,600 --> 02:28:30,560
that had everything in it needed to

3496
02:28:29,120 --> 02:28:32,960
have. So, there's still some things that

3497
02:28:30,560 --> 02:28:34,479
we need to submit. Um, but, uh, we'll

3498
02:28:32,960 --> 02:28:37,359
get all that done. You'll hear more

3499
02:28:34,479 --> 02:28:39,280
about it at committee, but, um, there's

3500
02:28:37,359 --> 02:28:40,640
a was a big scramble by our parks and

3501
02:28:39,280 --> 02:28:42,240
public works people. They did a great

3502
02:28:40,640 --> 02:28:44,479
job.

3503
02:28:42,240 --> 02:28:46,640
Uh, we've been we've had extensive

3504
02:28:44,479 --> 02:28:49,040
interviewing for our four open positions

3505
02:28:46,640 --> 02:28:51,439
over the last two weeks. I say this

3506
02:28:49,040 --> 02:28:53,439
because we do panel interviewing. When

3507
02:28:51,439 --> 02:28:55,040
we interview for a position, a lot of

3508
02:28:53,439 --> 02:28:57,600
our staff get involved in that to try

3509
02:28:55,040 --> 02:29:00,000
and make sure we get that right. Um

3510
02:28:57,600 --> 02:29:03,280
we've conducted interviews for city

3511
02:29:00,000 --> 02:29:05,840
clerk. We have identified qualified

3512
02:29:03,280 --> 02:29:09,680
candidates. So we're now moving through

3513
02:29:05,840 --> 02:29:11,520
um that process. We have hired a

3514
02:29:09,680 --> 02:29:14,560
communications coordinator whose first

3515
02:29:11,520 --> 02:29:17,920
day on the job was today. Uh so that's

3516
02:29:14,560 --> 02:29:22,160
helped to um uh Nicole Weebi and that

3517
02:29:17,920 --> 02:29:24,000
that whole function. So and and just um

3518
02:29:22,160 --> 02:29:26,640
welcome support in the whole

3519
02:29:24,000 --> 02:29:28,479
communications area. Um assistant

3520
02:29:26,640 --> 02:29:30,000
planner interviews have been conducted.

3521
02:29:28,479 --> 02:29:31,200
Qualified candidates have been

3522
02:29:30,000 --> 02:29:34,160
identified there. We're going through

3523
02:29:31,200 --> 02:29:35,760
the process. So uh it's a lot of work to

3524
02:29:34,160 --> 02:29:37,760
get those set up. A lot of commitment of

3525
02:29:35,760 --> 02:29:39,359
time from our staff and that's all been

3526
02:29:37,760 --> 02:29:41,359
happening while we've been doing all the

3527
02:29:39,359 --> 02:29:46,640
other things.

3528
02:29:41,359 --> 02:29:48,960
Um we've been uh let's see um

3529
02:29:46,640 --> 02:29:52,080
the last thing I want to bring up is we

3530
02:29:48,960 --> 02:29:55,680
shared with um the council. It was in

3531
02:29:52,080 --> 02:29:59,439
your agenda packet uh the immigration

3532
02:29:55,680 --> 02:30:01,200
topics um that were brought up by

3533
02:29:59,439 --> 02:30:05,280
members of the public at a previous

3534
02:30:01,200 --> 02:30:06,720
meeting um shared with you the responses

3535
02:30:05,280 --> 02:30:08,960
the two responses that have gone out

3536
02:30:06,720 --> 02:30:11,680
from the city. one uh from the police

3537
02:30:08,960 --> 02:30:14,000
chief and me and the mayor of North Bend

3538
02:30:11,680 --> 02:30:16,880
and then another that came out uh from

3539
02:30:14,000 --> 02:30:18,319
the city uh on additional topics. So,

3540
02:30:16,880 --> 02:30:20,479
we've given you a report. It's in your

3541
02:30:18,319 --> 02:30:22,319
advanced materials uh with the kind of

3542
02:30:20,479 --> 02:30:25,280
status on each of the requests and where

3543
02:30:22,319 --> 02:30:27,120
we're at with that.

3544
02:30:25,280 --> 02:30:29,040
With that, um let's see in the mayor's

3545
02:30:27,120 --> 02:30:30,640
report is are there any commission or

3546
02:30:29,040 --> 02:30:32,560
committee liaison reports? Council

3547
02:30:30,640 --> 02:30:35,920
member Holloway. Well, can I like jump

3548
02:30:32,560 --> 02:30:38,800
back committee the whole um

3549
02:30:35,920 --> 02:30:41,520
the uh

3550
02:30:38,800 --> 02:30:44,000
given the public comment we had the

3551
02:30:41,520 --> 02:30:47,920
meeting where Juniper is discussing with

3552
02:30:44,000 --> 02:30:50,160
the public is next Tuesday from 5 to 7.

3553
02:30:47,920 --> 02:30:52,160
Can we shift our Tuesday meetings to

3554
02:30:50,160 --> 02:30:54,960
Wednesday so that some of us might

3555
02:30:52,160 --> 02:30:56,240
attend?

3556
02:30:54,960 --> 02:30:56,880
» Do you want to make a motion?

3557
02:30:56,240 --> 02:31:01,040
» Yes.

3558
02:30:56,880 --> 02:31:03,200
» All right. Uh move to move. I think it's

3559
02:31:01,040 --> 02:31:04,960
community development and FNA from

3560
02:31:03,200 --> 02:31:05,760
Tuesday next week to Wednesday next

3561
02:31:04,960 --> 02:31:07,200
week.

3562
02:31:05,760 --> 02:31:08,880
» Is there a second?

3563
02:31:07,200 --> 02:31:12,000
» Seconded by council member Christian,

3564
02:31:08,880 --> 02:31:14,000
moved by council member Holloway. Um,

3565
02:31:12,000 --> 02:31:14,640
hold on. We'll ask the city attorney to

3566
02:31:14,000 --> 02:31:16,160
comment.

3567
02:31:14,640 --> 02:31:19,040
» I just wanted to say I think I think it

3568
02:31:16,160 --> 02:31:21,359
would be parks and public work and FNA.

3569
02:31:19,040 --> 02:31:22,800
» It's late. I'm sorry.

3570
02:31:21,359 --> 02:31:24,960
» Okay. So, uh,

3571
02:31:22,800 --> 02:31:27,840
» I accept the friendly amendment to my

3572
02:31:24,960 --> 02:31:30,479
motion. So to restate, the motion is to

3573
02:31:27,840 --> 02:31:33,280
move parks and public works committee

3574
02:31:30,479 --> 02:31:36,160
and FNA committee from Tuesday to

3575
02:31:33,280 --> 02:31:37,680
Wednesday of next week. And that motion

3576
02:31:36,160 --> 02:31:39,520
was seconded by council member

3577
02:31:37,680 --> 02:31:42,840
Christensen.

3578
02:31:39,520 --> 02:31:42,840
Any discussion?

3579
02:31:43,280 --> 02:31:46,160
Seeing none, all those in favor say I.

3580
02:31:45,520 --> 02:31:46,479
» I. I.

3581
02:31:46,160 --> 02:31:48,399
» I.

3582
02:31:46,479 --> 02:31:50,800
» Those opposed say nay.

3583
02:31:48,399 --> 02:31:53,520
» The motion carries. Council member

3584
02:31:50,800 --> 02:31:55,680
Christensen. Um, since we're going to be

3585
02:31:53,520 --> 02:31:58,399
doing that, I'm just flagging it that we

3586
02:31:55,680 --> 02:31:59,840
may also want to be noticing it as a

3587
02:31:58,399 --> 02:32:01,600
potential quorum.

3588
02:31:59,840 --> 02:32:05,520
» We will definitely do that.

3589
02:32:01,600 --> 02:32:08,000
» Yeah, I'll be sure to get it noticed.

3590
02:32:05,520 --> 02:32:09,200
» Um,

3591
02:32:08,000 --> 02:32:11,680
sneak in.

3592
02:32:09,200 --> 02:32:15,200
» Okay. Any other commission committee

3593
02:32:11,680 --> 02:32:16,880
liaison reports?

3594
02:32:15,200 --> 02:32:19,120
» Council member Christensen.

3595
02:32:16,880 --> 02:32:21,280
» Thank you. Um, yeah, Council Council

3596
02:32:19,120 --> 02:32:23,280
Member Holloway and I is late. uh did

3597
02:32:21,280 --> 02:32:24,960
meet the with the tribe. It was a very

3598
02:32:23,280 --> 02:32:26,960
friendly conversation. I did want to

3599
02:32:24,960 --> 02:32:29,359
pass along that they were very pleased

3600
02:32:26,960 --> 02:32:31,920
um we did what we said we would do

3601
02:32:29,359 --> 02:32:34,720
essentially putting down the the panels

3602
02:32:31,920 --> 02:32:36,399
um as well as moving the story pool that

3603
02:32:34,720 --> 02:32:38,720
was located in downtown. They they

3604
02:32:36,399 --> 02:32:41,120
appreciate that and they also um

3605
02:32:38,720 --> 02:32:43,920
referenced the fact that um the city did

3606
02:32:41,120 --> 02:32:45,439
fly the tribal flag over city hall when

3607
02:32:43,920 --> 02:32:49,359
they met last and and that was

3608
02:32:45,439 --> 02:32:50,800
appreciated significantly as well. Um, I

3609
02:32:49,359 --> 02:32:52,560
don't speak for the tribe, but there

3610
02:32:50,800 --> 02:32:53,680
there was just general they they're

3611
02:32:52,560 --> 02:32:54,960
looking forward to having the

3612
02:32:53,680 --> 02:32:57,760
opportunity to work with us on a number

3613
02:32:54,960 --> 02:33:00,000
of things um that impact, you know, the

3614
02:32:57,760 --> 02:33:02,800
valley as a whole and and the residents.

3615
02:33:00,000 --> 02:33:04,880
So,

3616
02:33:02,800 --> 02:33:06,240
» Council Member Johnson,

3617
02:33:04,880 --> 02:33:07,680
» Given that we're not quite at the end of

3618
02:33:06,240 --> 02:33:10,479
the agenda yet, do we need a motion to

3619
02:33:07,680 --> 02:33:11,680
extend past 10 before we would go into

3620
02:33:10,479 --> 02:33:13,520
executive session?

3621
02:33:11,680 --> 02:33:15,040
» Maybe hold on to that thought for a

3622
02:33:13,520 --> 02:33:16,560
moment. I've been watching the clock

3623
02:33:15,040 --> 02:33:19,040
carefully with that very thought in

3624
02:33:16,560 --> 02:33:19,040
mind.

3625
02:33:19,280 --> 02:33:24,920
Any further commissioner committee

3626
02:33:21,439 --> 02:33:24,920
leaison reports?

3627
02:33:25,120 --> 02:33:34,160
If not, um we'll uh

3628
02:33:30,800 --> 02:33:36,240
we'll uh adjourn into executive session

3629
02:33:34,160 --> 02:33:39,240
pursuant to RCW42.30-110i

3630
02:33:36,240 --> 02:33:39,240
30-110i

3631
02:33:41,359 --> 02:33:45,040
to discuss with legal counsel

3632
02:33:42,960 --> 02:33:47,680
representing the agency matters relating

3633
02:33:45,040 --> 02:33:49,439
to agency enforcement actions or to

3634
02:33:47,680 --> 02:33:51,439
discuss with legal counsel representing

3635
02:33:49,439 --> 02:33:53,200
the agency litigation or potential

3636
02:33:51,439 --> 02:33:55,920
litigation to which the agency the

3637
02:33:53,200 --> 02:33:58,640
governing body or a member acting in an

3638
02:33:55,920 --> 02:34:00,960
official capacity is or is likely to

3639
02:33:58,640 --> 02:34:02,800
become a party when public knowledge

3640
02:34:00,960 --> 02:34:05,200
regarding the discussion is likely to

3641
02:34:02,800 --> 02:34:07,520
result in an adverse legal or financial

3642
02:34:05,200 --> 02:34:09,920
consequence to the agency. The meeting

3643
02:34:07,520 --> 02:34:12,399
is expected to take no more than 20

3644
02:34:09,920 --> 02:34:14,960
minutes. It is not expected that we'll

3645
02:34:12,399 --> 02:34:19,600
take any action following the executive

3646
02:34:14,960 --> 02:34:24,720
session. Um we'll return at 2 minutes to

3647
02:34:19,600 --> 02:34:28,280
10 uh following that executive session.

3648
02:34:24,720 --> 02:34:28,280
Uh we inviting

3649
02:34:29,600 --> 02:34:33,200
city attorney and city administrator are

3650
02:34:31,520 --> 02:34:34,479
invited to join us in the executive

3651
02:34:33,200 --> 02:34:36,640
session.

3652
02:34:34,479 --> 02:34:39,120
Uh we will be adjourning to the uh

3653
02:34:36,640 --> 02:34:42,120
conference room upstairs

3654
02:34:39,120 --> 02:34:42,120
here.