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Good evening. It is 5:01

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p.m.

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» This is the public safety committee

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meeting on March 16th, 2026.

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I'm Rob Wattton, chair of the committee,

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and I am calling us to order. First

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order of business is roll call and we

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have members of the uh committee here

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present. Council member Cotton, Council

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Member Holloway, as well as City

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Attorney Dina Burke, Mayor James Mayhew,

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and Rebecca Sullum. And uh welcome all.

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So, first order of business.

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Next is the approval of the agenda as

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presented. Are there any corrections,

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additions to tonight's agenda?

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Hearing none, we'll accept the agenda as

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presented. Thank you. Next, we'll move

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on to public comments. If you happen to

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be in person, we welcome your comments.

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Uh you're given up to three minutes here

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um to to present. If you're not here,

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you can always send in your comments to

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the city clerk, to the city um mayor or

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to the council members and we will make

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sure that those are noted.

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Uh we'll move on to the minutes and we

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have two sets of minutes. Uh we need to

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approve the minutes. First of all, dated

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February 17th, 2026.

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Council members, are there any additions

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to the minutes from the 17th of

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February?

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» None that I saw.

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» Seeing none, we'll go ahead and approve

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the minutes from February 17th, 2026.

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And then next is the approval of the

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minutes dated March 2nd, 2026.

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Are there any corrections to those

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minutes?

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Seeing none, we will approve the minutes

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of March 2nd, 2026.

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And now

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the real reason why you were here

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tonight,

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and that's agenda bills. We've got uh

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just one this evening. It's AB26-00005,

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ordinance amending chapter 10.24,

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compression breaks. And uh when I before

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I call the chief up to um present on

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that, we do have a modification from the

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city attorney and it's on section three

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and attorney Burke, would you care to

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fill us in on the last line, please?

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» Thank you, chair. Um in section three,

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that's the corrections by city clerk of

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code revisor. There's a minor typo in

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the last clause. It should read or

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ordinance, comma, section, comma, or

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subsection numbering. So, if um the

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committee recommends this goes forward

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to uh council, um I would recommend that

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that uh typo be fixed.

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» Council members, are there is there any

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objection to changing the wording and

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and cleaning it up as we move forward?

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Hearing none, we'll accept that as an

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amended portion to tonight's agenda

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bill. And with that, I'm going to call

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on

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on Chief Hores to bring us up to speed

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on changes to the compression brakes.

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And this is to approve ordinance 1317

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and amend the Snowquali Municipal Code

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of 10.24

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on compression brakes. You can do it

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from the comfort of your chair. You

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don't even need to stand up.

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» I have a mic now. Uh, good evening,

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council members, mayor, um, interim

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chief Gary Horesy. And this agenda bill

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seeks to repeal and replace chapter 1024

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on the compression brakes, which was

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originally adopted by the city in 1986.

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um throughout or well I'll just say the

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city of Snomi has received multiple

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complaints um regarding compression

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brakes used in the city and

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through doing some research we have and

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looking at our previous um or or the

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current ordinance we feel there needs to

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be some updates um defining what a motor

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vehicle is defining what a compression

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brake Jake brake is um or better known

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as a Jacob's brake and just kind of

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updating the code from back then to

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bring it more into the standards of what

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Snamami is now with the residential

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areas to address the concerns especially

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along the Parkway and 202 where we get a

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lot of truck traffic. Um, so we're

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asking to update that with the ordinance

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that's been presented before you, which

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define, you know, like I said, defines

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the engine compression brake, um, of

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motor vehicle, and then it describes

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when it shall be used, which we're

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saying it shall not be used in the city.

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And then we also updated the penalty

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from $50 to $250.

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there talking about a signage addition,

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which we already have the signs in

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place, but our current ordinance doesn't

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really address that. So, we're adding

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we're adding that piece in there. Um,

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and with that, I'm happy to answer any

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questions or give you a little, you

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know, provide more information if

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needed.

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» Thank you, Chief. The very first thing,

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the ordinance as it stands now is from

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1986,

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if I followed correctly. Correct.

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» And that was before the parkway was even

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imagined or or built because that came

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along about 10 years later. You couldn't

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even go up past where the hospital is

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now from 18. So just put it in context.

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few houses been built where they're

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probably affected the most. So that's my

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commentary. Council member Cotton.

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» Yes. I just was wondering. So, um cuz

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even, you know, downtown you can hear,

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uh both those areas when trucks are

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trying to run the red light down, you

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know, to get get back to the the quarry.

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accelerating and trying to beat the

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light and then they hammer down on the

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Jake break and um and it the the sound

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carries tremendously. How will PD um

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actually enforce that? I mean, unless

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you're obviously witnessing it. Is there

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I mean, you can't really do it from uh

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citizen complaints, right?

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» No, ma'am. We have to on view the

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violation. Um we have the officers have

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been instructed to put a focus and an

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emphasis on this along the parkway

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listening for it. Um part of it is is

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there's twofold to this. Yes, we've

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and I heard it last week sitting in my

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office working on um other things where

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I heard the Jake break being utilized.

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» Um but we also have the noise coming up

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the parkway where they're just trying to

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maintain a speed. So there's but there's

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two different distinct sounds. The Jake

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brake has a little bit of a faster

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repetition to it because it's

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compression pushed back on the engine

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from the exhaust system. And so um

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we'll on view and then we will you know

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issue a citation if necessary. You know

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there's officer discretion in that. Um

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but we're we've also asked and I'll get

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into it a little bit later on the next

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presentation. But I've also asked for

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this to be addressed with the commercial

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motor vehicle division of state patrol

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um while they're out in the area just to

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provide assistance when our officers are

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tied up on things or not necessarily on

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the parkway. So, I've asked for a little

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bit of assistance that will be addressed

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more so in other other areas or they can

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site into our court and then we would

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obviously site into our court on a

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municipal side. Um whether it's under

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the 1986 version at $50 or if we update

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it in the, you know, next council

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meetings that it would be a $250 fine or

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whatever y'all may choose to change or

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whatever. This we're recommending a $250

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fine.

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» Yes. A followup council member followup

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is um so if we pass this through

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whatever the fine and I agree with it

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being a higher fine is this something

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where um we could notify all the

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trucking companies out there by Mil Pond

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um uh the owners that hey this has gone

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up and it's going to it could make a

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dent in your wallet. So, I've already

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started reaching out to some of those

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companies through our officer who's

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actually on light duty right now going,

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"Hey, we're seeing these issues." And

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one of them we'll talk about in a little

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bit and reaching out to the companies

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that we see frequently down the Parkway

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going, "Hey, we're trying to address

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this. We're giving you a heads up and

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we're just doing that communication

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going, we need y'all to help us."

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» Great.

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» So, there is that notification already

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taking place in a lot of areas.

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» Super. Okay.

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» All right. Council member Holloway,

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» Why 250?

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» Uh, I looked at different uh ordinances

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and and talked to the prosecutor's

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office and that was something that is

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just kind of becoming more of a

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standard. They range from anywhere from

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150 to 250 based on the time frame from

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1986. Obviously, inflation has changed

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what they what fines look like and

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um so I'm kind of trying to stay with

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industry standard right now. Okay. And

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» Go ahead.

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» Help me. Why why we're making this

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change? I again uh the defining of a

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compression brake.

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I don't necessarily believe that helps

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you in further enforcement, but it does

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define it. Defining a motor vehicle. I

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think we know a tractor is a motor

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vehicle. So, I don't think we often get

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questions along those lines. Is really

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the intent here to do some of that

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cleanup, but also to update the fine

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level. just to do everything kind of

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bring it up to speed to say that when

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they're not authorized provide the

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definition of what they are because

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there's different variations of it so

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it's not just a Jacobson break which is

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a brand name um and then yes to to

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update the penalties and then we

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obviously added the signage piece into

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this saying that we have it posted which

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we already do but it's not currently

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listed in our ordinance so we're just

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kind of bringing everything up to speed

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» And the prior ordinance inhibited you

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from enforcement No, it just we're

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trying to clearly define it so that

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there's no argument on the court side

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and prosecution saying, "Well, you

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didn't post it, but this way we're

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saying we we we have signs posted on the

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Parkway going both directions saying

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compression brakes are illegal."

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» Um, but it's not in there. So, it just

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helps us with the prosecution side when

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I ran it through them that they asked

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for that to be defined as well.

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Any further questions, council member?

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That's good. I've got one. Does speed

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have anything to do with increased

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usage? Because as you're mentioning that

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you can hear from your office, the

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trucks coming up the parkway as well as

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those that are coming down and breaking.

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» So compression brakes are used on the

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downhill.

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» They're not on the uphill. So speed can

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play a factor in it a little bit. Um

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it's it it also depends on what their

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weight load is and everything else. If

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they're hauling, let's say they're

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leaving the construction site at the

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hospital or at I90 and 18 when they were

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moving a bunch of stuff, the heavier the

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load, the louder that compression

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break's going to be because it's got a

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heavier weight limit that it's trying to

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reduce. So it's kind of a combination of

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those two. Um, and then the noise going

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up is just them carrying that work, that

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load up the hill.

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» Okay.

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» All right.

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» And it's as much a style on the part of

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the driver as it is. He can use the

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brakes. They're designed for it. He

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wants to save on the brakes. He'll use

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the Jake it. So, it driver option.

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» Okay. All right. Any further questions?

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Mayor Administration,

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uh, other council member Cotton,

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do do you have any issues moving this

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forward to the full council for

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consideration at this point?

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» No issues.

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» No issues.

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» And this is a two reading

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» Process anyway. Okay. And if there's no

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objection, we'll just go ahead and ask

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for that on the FNA calendar and and for

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on the uh regular calendar as well.

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Okay. I

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» Think it's already there.

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» All right. Yeah. Well,

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» Written ready to go tomorrow. Yeah.

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» Fabulous.

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» Okay. Excellent. Thank you. Hearing no

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objection, we will move the agenda bill

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AB26-005

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ordinance amending chapter 10.24

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compression breaks to the council

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agenda.

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And we've got two more items of

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discussion. Is there anything else? Are

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you good?

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» You're good.

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» Yes.

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All right.

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» We We realized we didn't know which one

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of us was going to cause it to be on the

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screen.

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» Oh, okay. I can do it.

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» That's important. Okay. So, while you're

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queuing that up over there. Yes.

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» Because all I do is sit here and just

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kind of entertain everyone. Um our our

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next point is to go on to discussions.

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And the very first one is the uh police

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chief timeline. And who is leading off

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on this?

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» That's the one we're trying to put on

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this.

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» Jimmy, can you promote me to panelist so

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I can share my screen

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» On the edge of our seats?

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There we go.

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» Can you all see that tweet day?

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» A bit.

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» Mayor, I presume you're presenting on

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this,

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» Correct?

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» All right.

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» All right.

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» Mayor Mayhew,

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» That is the uh the calendar for March.

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So, the 23rd, 24th, and 25th of March.

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Um this is the timeline we have for

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interviews, public interviews, council

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interviews, the various interviews that

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are going to happen uh with um the

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police chief finalist candidates. So I

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wanted to make you aware of that. Um so

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on the 23rd um there's some internal

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interviewing still going on. On the 24th

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we'll have meet and greets in the

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council chambers from 2 to 4:00. We've

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invited business owners from throughout

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the city to come in and they'll have a

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chance to just interact with the

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different candidates from 6:30 to 8. Uh

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same thing this time we've just invited

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the community residents to come in. Um

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the idea between doing those two groups

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separately is that they might have

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different sort of nature of questions um

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focus of questions. So, we want to

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enable that. And then it's also two two

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different times of day so that folks

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that can um maybe not make one can make

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the other.

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Then, uh on uh the 25th, Wednesday the

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25th from 4 to 6:00 p.m. we'll have a

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council meet and greet. So, this is just

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you council members. Um

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chairs over there.

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» Oh, yes.

382
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» Yes, please. Council member C.

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» Interject. Isn't this the one where we

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had one of the um conflicts with

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schedule because that is um you know

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coming up on on when we were having the

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SVGA meeting or is this to try and get

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it done before we

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» No, that was just a there was an error

390
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in the email that went out to you. There

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actually never was a conflict. We just

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told you the wrong date. So the email

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that I sent to you said that the thing

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that you see there on the 25th

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» Uhhuh. In my email to you, I told you it

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was on the 24th, which would have been a

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conflict because the 24th is the SVGA

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meeting.

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» No, that's

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» I'm saying it backwards.

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» Yeah, the SVGA meetings are on

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Wednesday.

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» Yes.

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» They've always been on the last

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Wednesday.

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» All right, let I'll just make sure that

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this is clarified, but the day that we

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have lined up for you is not the same

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day as the SVGA. So now if this is an

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error,

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» I thought it got moved to Thursday by an

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email from Nicole.

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» Yeah, we never moved it. It was just

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that we told you the wrong thing. So let

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me find out. Sounds like I need to

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double check the calendar.

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Uh and um clear this up. So I'll send

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you an email.

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» Okay. meaning the three of you

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» Uh and if there's any correcting this

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and uh if there's any mistake in what's

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gone out to the full council then we'll

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correct that as well.

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» Great. Thank you.

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» Um so over those three days uh the point

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here is um well the point was to tell

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you the plan but uh three different

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groups of community

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uh meet and greets with the candidates

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um is kind of our plan over a three-day

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period.

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Uh, Council Member Holloway.

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» Uh, and where does the council

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participate in interviews?

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» Uh, that's the 4 to 6 PM meet and greet

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on the 25th.

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» That's a meet and greet.

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» Yeah.

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» It has often been the case where the

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council participates in interviews

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in addition to meet and greet.

442
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» We didn't wasn't planning to do that.

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I I don't like that

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again it has been practice council

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participate in the interview

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particularly of

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» Department

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» Director chief and what and at that

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level um

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» It will be hard to schedule a seven

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council member interview. No, no, no.

452
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» It's representative. It's like two

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council members participate in one of

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the interview panels.

455
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» Uh or there's usually a a staff level

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interview and then there's a uh call

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executive level interview and the

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council participates one to two members

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in that executive level interview.

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um

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mean and greet again the the positions

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have to be ratified by the council I it

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helps in that decision.

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» Yeah. So the goal here was to enable the

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full council to have interaction with

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the candidates so they'd be in a

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position to cast their vote to

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um confirm or not confirm an

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appointment. And so since every council

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member has to take that vote, the goal

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was to try and enable all of the council

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members to have interaction that would

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allow them to do that. Um I I'm guessing

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you're not against that or

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» I'm not against the meet and greet.

476
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Se uh representative council members

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need to participate in an interview

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panel.

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your choice where,

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but there needs to be participation by

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representative council in that interview

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process.

483
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We're not going to get down to issues

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over cheese and grape juice. I won't say

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wine. Uh because I assume it's not wine.

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» We wish.

487
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» Yeah, we wish. It should be a lot

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easier.

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» So, switching back to the meet and greet

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for just a moment. Um, the goal is to

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absolutely make that a a useful meeting

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because the only people invited are the

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seven council members. So, whatever

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format that So, I know you're talking

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about something else. I'm not ignoring

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that. I'm just saying with regard to the

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meet and greet, if you'd let us know how

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what would be the most useful format for

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the meet and greet that all seven of you

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hopefully will be able to participate

501
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in, I'd like to set that up in whatever

502
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format is most helpful. Um,

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and then your other request is have one

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or two council members involved on an

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interview panel as well. So, I'm hearing

506
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that, but if you, so I don't have an

507
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answer for you on that right now. We'll

508
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have to go back and think about that.

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But with regard to the meet and greet,

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if you could tell us if the, you know,

511
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what format would be most useful, that

512
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would be great.

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I think the the point is this, mayor, is

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we've all gone through several different

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panels and and department heads and and

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typically the chair of each of the

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committees is involved in it plus

518
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another member could be from the the

519
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committee or or another committee, one

520
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of the seven. But but being involved in

521
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that process has been enlightening

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because we bring the perspective of

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hopefully all seven and our concerns and

524
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we kind of come back with a sense of

525
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trust and by the time it's determined

526
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who the pick is, there's there's already

527
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um buy in by certain members and we look

528
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to each other for that guidance. and you

529
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were part of the council as well. So I

530
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mean this is not foreign to you as well.

531
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Um but I think to council member

532
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Holloway and I think council member

533
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Cotton is going to chime in here in a

534
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moment as well which I I welcome is it

535
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just we need to make sure there's a

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diversity of point of view because what

537
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we as the seven council members is what

538
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you were a part of. we we have a

539
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different perspective than what other

540
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department heads other folks that may be

541
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um uh stakeholders in the community and

542
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we come together and coales and then

543
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when that person is chosen hopefully

544
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we're all of the same mindset and and I

545
00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:43,520
think that's part of the concern and and

546
00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:47,200
secondly it comes back to open public

547
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:51,679
meeting acts if we are seven meeting u

548
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:54,400
the candidate I'm not sure that it's

549
00:22:51,679 --> 00:22:57,440
going to give the right perception if

550
00:22:54,400 --> 00:23:00,000
it's closed and not inclusive of the

551
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:03,200
community so that we're not like

552
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:06,400
creating and and making decision on our

553
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:08,640
own. And I I I think you know, attorney

554
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:11,280
Burke may

555
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,720
want to chime in or may not. All right.

556
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,080
Can we just go you brought up a whole

557
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,760
bunch of points so let's go through

558
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,480
them. That'd be all right.

559
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,000
» Sure.

560
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,880
» First off, one of the things I'm

561
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:23,440
responding to is complaints by your

562
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:25,600
fellow council members about council

563
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:29,280
members who have been excluded. They

564
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:33,039
weren't on the interview panel and have

565
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:36,880
expressed several of them um frustration

566
00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:39,679
with that. So the goal here, my goal is

567
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:42,880
to include the council in ways that make

568
00:23:39,679 --> 00:23:44,559
the counsel let the council get to the

569
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,640
very important confirmation decision

570
00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:50,559
they have to make in the way that most

571
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:52,240
helps you. So, this is not a um

572
00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:55,760
difference of opinion. Whatever helps

573
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:57,440
you is what we're going to do. So, um

574
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,120
what I need to hear from you is what

575
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:03,360
would help you and then that's what

576
00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:04,880
we'll do. But do be mindful that um

577
00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:08,320
council members that aren't the ones

578
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:10,080
that are on the interview panel have

579
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,000
expressed frustration with that. So,

580
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,520
I'm, you know, if we can find some set

581
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,760
of things, maybe it's a meet and greet

582
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:18,480
and panel like, if we can find some set

583
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,919
of things that kind of help all seven of

584
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,559
you get to the decision you need to

585
00:24:19,919 --> 00:24:24,880
make, then that's what I'm in favor of.

586
00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:29,200
Um, city attorney, one one question was

587
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:30,960
brought up is this meet and greet um and

588
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,520
OPMA concerns. Do you have any comment

589
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,200
on that?

590
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,039
» Uh, yes, mayor. I would recommend it

591
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,880
being noticed as a special meeting. So

592
00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:39,679
technically members of the public could

593
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:42,640
attend in the audience um but it could

594
00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:45,279
be you know whatever format you know

595
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:48,240
council desires you know for asking the

596
00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:51,679
candidates questions.

597
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:53,760
» Thank you council member Cotton. Um, so

598
00:24:51,679 --> 00:24:56,799
my question kind of dovtales in on that

599
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,799
last part is that and I do think we

600
00:24:56,799 --> 00:25:02,320
should at least do a combination of the

601
00:24:58,799 --> 00:25:04,159
two, have several council members

602
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,559
involved with the interviews and then we

603
00:25:04,159 --> 00:25:08,960
can also have the council meet and greet

604
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:11,360
so nobody's noses get out of joint about

605
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,919
not being on the interview panel. My

606
00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:17,279
question was more to you you had made a

607
00:25:13,919 --> 00:25:21,039
comment mayor about us um kind of

608
00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:26,400
coalesing or you know our vote and so in

609
00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:30,240
what when would we do that since uh as

610
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:33,520
far as making a a decision uh of the

611
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:36,559
council? um because obviously we would

612
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:39,360
want to be talking about it probably

613
00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:41,440
amongst ourselves as far as you know if

614
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:43,600
it was down to a couple candidates and

615
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:46,400
things like that. So what's the kind of

616
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,400
the vision or process we see for for

617
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:52,720
that or

618
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:55,919
» If I may just as a reminder the pick of

619
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:58,480
the administrative head is the mayor's

620
00:25:55,919 --> 00:26:01,360
unless I'm wrong is the mayor's choice

621
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:03,520
but they're confirmed by the council. So

622
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:06,240
we go through this process. It's a

623
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:09,600
vetting process and then the mayor gets

624
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:12,320
to make the ultimate recommendation back

625
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:14,640
to the council. And council member

626
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:18,880
Holloway, you've been through this a

627
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:20,799
gazillion times. Um, please help me if

628
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,400
I'm missing anything.

629
00:26:20,799 --> 00:26:25,200
» Use a different number, but

630
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,600
» You're a veteran. You're a veteran. So,

631
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:30,000
so as far as that, I mean, what we're

632
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,640
doing is we're helping vet the

633
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,960
candidates and help the mayor and his

634
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:38,799
decision, but it's ultimately the mayor

635
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:41,200
that gets to choose who he appoints and

636
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:43,039
we confirm. Is that correct?

637
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:46,080
» Yeah, that's absolutely correct. And and

638
00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:50,400
the the point I'd add here is the

639
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:52,799
council members have a lot of

640
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:56,159
well evidently one of them has a lot of

641
00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:58,000
experience gazillion times. Um others

642
00:26:56,159 --> 00:27:00,080
have may no but in all seriousness

643
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:04,400
council members have a perspective that

644
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:06,880
will will advise. So I think um as I

645
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,559
make this choice the advice of council

646
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,360
members is something I very much could

647
00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:14,720
use. So I think there's two concepts

648
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:17,279
here is help advise

649
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:20,799
great that will help me and guide me in

650
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:23,039
my decision. Um but ultimately

651
00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:24,559
you have as a body the final say you

652
00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:27,440
will either confirm or not. So you are

653
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:30,000
also trying to accomplish your own task

654
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,520
of deciding each of you how you will

655
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,679
vote. So there sort of two things I'm

656
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:36,080
hoping to get out of this. The advice

657
00:27:33,679 --> 00:27:38,799
and then obviously the confirmation of

658
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:41,600
whatever choice. And to the question of

659
00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:44,720
what's the time frame,

660
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:48,240
my answer is it sort of depends. It may

661
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:50,320
be that we go through this process and

662
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:53,120
most people feel that the answer is very

663
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:56,080
clear, very quickly and we move quickly.

664
00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:57,919
It may be that it's not so clear. So um

665
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,320
it sort of depends how we go. So, I

666
00:27:57,919 --> 00:28:02,240
haven't put in a specific date, but the

667
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,000
intention would be to move following

668
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,080
this process

669
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:09,080
expeditiously, shall we say, to a

670
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,080
decision.

671
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:13,799
» So, Council Member Holloway,

672
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:19,200
» Privately, I can tell you offline, there

673
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,720
have been two separate occasions when I

674
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,600
have advised the mayor, the then

675
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:26,080
standing mayor not to pick a particular

676
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,080
candidate for various reasons. I can

677
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,919
name two instances in which that advice

678
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,320
was

679
00:28:29,919 --> 00:28:36,399
uh taken but gone a different direction

680
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:38,480
and proved very detrimental to the city.

681
00:28:36,399 --> 00:28:40,720
You've left no opportunity for that

682
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:43,600
interaction that happened as part of the

683
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:46,159
interview activity. If you are setting

684
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,080
this up in which if I don't like a

685
00:28:46,159 --> 00:28:50,159
candidate, I've got to rip him open in a

686
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,640
public meeting. I'm kind of at the stage

687
00:28:50,159 --> 00:28:54,559
my career I'll do that.

688
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,360
Okay. But I don't think that's a proper

689
00:28:54,559 --> 00:29:00,399
way. I don't think that leads to good

690
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:02,480
feelings at that meeting if we have to,

691
00:29:00,399 --> 00:29:04,000
you know, basically gut the candidate in

692
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:08,159
public.

693
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:10,559
Um whe whichever way the vote goes, uh

694
00:29:08,159 --> 00:29:13,279
I'd rather step into it and part of that

695
00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:15,520
is council representative council

696
00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:20,080
participation in the interview on which

697
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:21,679
there can be again post discussion of

698
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,760
good candidate, bad candidate, don't

699
00:29:21,679 --> 00:29:27,360
like that, like that. What does that

700
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:30,240
mean? Um, so

701
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:32,159
I

702
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,159
you tell I'm strongly feeling it there

703
00:29:32,159 --> 00:29:37,520
needs to be council participation in an

704
00:29:34,159 --> 00:29:38,640
interview format.

705
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,840
» Mayor Mayhe,

706
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:43,440
» That's sounds fantastic. I think um my

707
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,120
intention which I sort of wrote down

708
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,520
here, maybe we need to actually come

709
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,520
back to you and talk about or or lay out

710
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:52,799
a consultation process. My thought was

711
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:55,840
frankly after the council meet and

712
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:58,799
greet, my intention was to in fact poll

713
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:01,440
one and when I say poll, let me say it

714
00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:04,640
differently to speak with each of the

715
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:09,120
seven council members and receive their

716
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:12,159
advice individually and

717
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:14,399
sort of in whatever length of time to

718
00:30:12,159 --> 00:30:16,720
sort of explore that. So I really had an

719
00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:19,200
idea of a process of really going to the

720
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:22,399
council members who had done who had

721
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:24,880
come hopefully all of them saying what

722
00:30:22,399 --> 00:30:27,120
did you think why tell me more you know

723
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,760
what about this what about that and

724
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:33,600
really kind of um get the full benefit

725
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:36,240
of of that advice. So the intent my

726
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:40,080
intent is a process of interacting with

727
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:41,760
you all oneonone excuse me oneon-one. So

728
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,559
maybe we should sort of put that in

729
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:47,520
there. Process time frame, a

730
00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:49,840
consultation process time. So um I'll

731
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:53,360
think about that and put it on uh put it

732
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:55,840
on the agenda or on the calendar.

733
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:58,159
» May May I make another suggestion? And I

734
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,679
I have similar feelings. However,

735
00:30:58,159 --> 00:31:02,960
they're they're honed a little

736
00:30:59,679 --> 00:31:06,559
differently. That's all. Um and I I

737
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:09,360
think the the concern is this.

738
00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:12,320
You have several panel, you have two

739
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:15,919
panel interviews. I don't know exactly

740
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:19,440
what you know what the format is on

741
00:31:15,919 --> 00:31:22,559
that. I'd like to see

742
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:25,440
um the council members that want to

743
00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:28,880
participate in the interview process be

744
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:31,840
included somehow some way. And for

745
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,840
instance, maybe they're included in the

746
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:37,120
panel interviews

747
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:39,919
where there's a couple council members,

748
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:42,880
but also give them the option if if they

749
00:31:39,919 --> 00:31:44,399
don't have the time to participate in

750
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,600
the meet and greet with the business

751
00:31:44,399 --> 00:31:51,120
owners to hear that context with the

752
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:54,399
community to hear that compact context

753
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:56,799
or be included in the mayor's interview

754
00:31:54,399 --> 00:32:02,399
um panel. That would be my suggestion.

755
00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:05,200
And maybe all seven or six now six um

756
00:32:02,399 --> 00:32:07,679
four or five are able to and somebody's

757
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:10,320
just simply because of their schedule

758
00:32:07,679 --> 00:32:12,799
not able to. I think that there would be

759
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,720
more comfort around the council and

760
00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:17,039
that's what I'm hearing from council

761
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,840
member Holloway and we've all have hired

762
00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:22,640
people whether it's through the city or

763
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:25,200
through our own businesses

764
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:27,360
and realize the times that you know

765
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:31,120
those interviews you try to make them a

766
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:33,279
little bit better each time because um

767
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,120
that's the one chance where you can kind

768
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:37,760
of

769
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:40,480
understand a little bit more deeply

770
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:43,039
about the candidate. And I totally agree

771
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:45,440
with council member Holloway and that is

772
00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:48,559
just doing the meet and greet and and us

773
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:51,440
all being really nice to each other and

774
00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:55,120
and sometimes the brutal reality is

775
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:57,360
business has to happen and the business

776
00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:00,720
of our community is incredibly

777
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:04,320
important. This is a very important role

778
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:06,640
and um just you know it's it's the

779
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,880
process is ultimately up to you but

780
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,880
we're just asking for greater

781
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,799
involvement than the meet and greet. I

782
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,960
think that's what I'm hearing is there

783
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:17,519
there's different ways that we want to

784
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:21,279
be involved and we want to be able to be

785
00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:24,240
there to help support whomever you pick

786
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:27,120
and and wholeheartedly support that not

787
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:30,159
only the the confirmation but also in

788
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:34,480
supporting them going forward. So that's

789
00:33:30,159 --> 00:33:36,559
that's just my one perspective to it.

790
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,480
Council member Holloway. So, why don't

791
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:41,360
we put on the council agenda one, a

792
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,679
discussion on uh meet and greet options.

793
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,960
If you guys could give us some talking

794
00:33:43,679 --> 00:33:47,279
material, it's kind of an open-ended

795
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:52,000
question at this stage, and that'll get

796
00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:53,600
silenced. Um uh to have a discussion on

797
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,960
a

798
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:59,279
council panel interview uh and get

799
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,320
you're hearing you're hearing, Jim, I'll

800
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:02,240
tell you, you're hearing from three

801
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:05,840
council members.

802
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:08,800
and I'm not hearing

803
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:11,200
acceptance of the feedback. So, let's

804
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,119
put it on the council agenda. Make sure

805
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,679
you're just not hearing from uh three

806
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:17,839
minority members with full council.

807
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:18,720
Let's have a discussion on council

808
00:34:17,839 --> 00:34:20,960
panel.

809
00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:21,679
» Okay.

810
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,879
» Yeah, Barry,

811
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:25,520
» If I could please.

812
00:34:22,879 --> 00:34:27,119
» Um I'm not sure why you're not hearing

813
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,000
yes because I'm practically screaming

814
00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:29,599
yes. Um

815
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,359
» Because you haven't made any changes to

816
00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:33,280
that chart. I

817
00:34:31,359 --> 00:34:34,879
» He doesn't like the font either.

818
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:39,079
» I don't like the font either. That is a

819
00:34:34,879 --> 00:34:39,079
horrible font. But

820
00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:47,760
» That was not going to bring that up.

821
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:49,679
» But but I So how are we changing this

822
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,720
and where does council participate?

823
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:54,800
» Yes, that deserves an answer.

824
00:34:52,720 --> 00:34:55,760
» And we don't have to have one tonight.

825
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,320
You have

826
00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,880
» Look, this requires thought. Honestly,

827
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:03,119
we can't put council members in panels

828
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,640
with staff. Just cancel the interview.

829
00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:06,160
Staff will shut up the minute one of you

830
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,040
show. That doesn't work.

831
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,520
» That's inappropriate.

832
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,200
» So, I absolutely hear what you want. I

833
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,280
absolutely I'm trying to tell you, yes,

834
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,440
we'll find a way to facilitate what you

835
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,960
want. I just got to figure out how that

836
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,720
will work.

837
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,040
» And I'm not going to shoot from the hip,

838
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:22,880
but give us 24 hours to figure it out.

839
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:26,560
» That's fair.

840
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:28,560
Okay. Thank you very much, Mayor.

841
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,560
Right. Sorry.

842
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,079
» Oh, I just wanted to say from a legal

843
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,640
perspective.

844
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:35,599
» Yes. Yes, please.

845
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,680
» Sorry.

846
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:38,720
» Bernie Burke, you you got precedence

847
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,359
over all of it.

848
00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:43,599
» Oh, thanks. Um

849
00:35:41,359 --> 00:35:45,280
just um if we could get 24 hours notice

850
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:46,480
so we can post potential quorum or

851
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,079
special meetings. That's the only thing

852
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,680
I would ask for.

853
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:52,000
» Can we change the font?

854
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,440
» I I can draft this, but absolutely. I

855
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,640
will tell the person who drafted it to

856
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,720
change the font.

857
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,440
» Okay. That was just a side thumb at you,

858
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:58,720
Rebecca.

859
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,599
» Make it a big deal. Go ahead.

860
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:01,599
» Yes, please. To

861
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:03,359
» Be fair, I made it just for the mayor

862
00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:04,560
and the mayor said that he loved it and

863
00:36:03,359 --> 00:36:06,480
to ask.

864
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:09,040
» So, I made it for him only.

865
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,480
» Oh, well, now that we know that the font

866
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,240
is fine.

867
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,920
» No, but next time you make it for the

868
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:16,720
mayor, you ask him, "Are you going to

869
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:19,040
present it?"

870
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:21,520
» Ask that next time for sure.

871
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,599
» Thank you. Sorry. Sorry to out you on

872
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:27,240
your font.

873
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:27,240
All right. Moving

874
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:33,680
right along. Let's let's let's switch

875
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:36,560
gears million. But any go on. Let's

876
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:40,320
let's switch gears over to covered load

877
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:42,480
enforcement discussion. Uh

878
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,040
» Chief, which chief wants to take this

879
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,359
one on,

880
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,960
» Please?

881
00:36:45,359 --> 00:36:49,280
» Uh good evening, council members again.

882
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,280
Um so this is more of a discussion just

883
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:54,240
to kind of update. We've been receiving

884
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:57,200
a number of complaints um around the

885
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:59,760
city, mostly down the Parkway for

886
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:02,000
unsecured loads, uh big trucks that

887
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:04,240
don't have their um loads covered,

888
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:07,040
things like that. Um things falling from

889
00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:08,720
them in different areas of the Parkway.

890
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,000
So, as I kind of mentioned earlier,

891
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:11,440
we've been reaching out to some of those

892
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,240
companies that have been pointed out to

893
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:16,400
us by community members when they see it

894
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:18,240
and they get the name off the truck and

895
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:21,040
we'll reach out to them because again we

896
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:24,400
have to on view that violation

897
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:26,800
which is an RCW. And then I've asked all

898
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:29,119
the officers to again be mindful, pay

899
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,960
attention, watch for things. if you see

900
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:32,480
something falling out or you see an

901
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,480
unsecured load that they take

902
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,760
enforcement action or at least an

903
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,960
education piece going hey next time or

904
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,839
you know whatever they feel that

905
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:44,560
discretion needs to be um we've had some

906
00:37:41,839 --> 00:37:46,880
vehicles that have been struck um by

907
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,880
falling debris things like that so we're

908
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,480
taking it very seriously I've asked

909
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,000
Washington State Patrol's commercial

910
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:55,359
commercial motor vehicle division to

911
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:58,480
come out and provide a continuous um

912
00:37:55,359 --> 00:38:00,400
assistance to us and kind of to help us

913
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,200
curb some of the commercial motor

914
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,119
vehicle things that are going on again

915
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:08,240
the use of compression brakes and now

916
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:09,760
this and they have agreed they're

917
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:13,440
assigning that out. I've been in

918
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:16,079
communication by email to uh one of the

919
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,839
lieutenants and then the uh supervisor

920
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:19,359
over the lieutenant that's actually over

921
00:38:17,839 --> 00:38:22,400
the commercial motor vehicle division in

922
00:38:19,359 --> 00:38:24,800
this section uh or in this district for

923
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,640
them. So we're taking it serious. We're

924
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:29,440
going to have some, you know, if we see

925
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:32,400
it, we will address it and hopefully

926
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:35,119
curb this uh concern. Uh, and we're

927
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:37,119
looking at both areas, 202 and the

928
00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:38,960
Parkway, which is our, you know,

929
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:40,640
frequently traveled areas. I don't

930
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,720
haven't had any complaints of them in

931
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:46,760
any of the subdivisions, obviously, but

932
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:46,760
those are our main focus points.

933
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:51,440
» I do have a question. I I think this is

934
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:53,520
an awesome thing. Thank you for doing

935
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:57,760
the covered loads.

936
00:38:53,520 --> 00:39:00,160
I have seen large rigs parked in

937
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:03,359
neighborhoods and I don't know if that's

938
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:07,599
an issue. Maybe it was weather related

939
00:39:03,359 --> 00:39:10,880
but um with loads huge industrial loads

940
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:14,560
like for instance a week ago there were

941
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:18,640
there was a flatbed truck with several

942
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:20,320
rolls of astroturf huge rolls parked in

943
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:24,960
one of the neighborhoods. I don't

944
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:28,079
remember where. Um, and you know, the

945
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:31,520
more that we can do to make sure that

946
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:33,200
um, we have a lot of truck traffic that

947
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,920
goes up and down the Parkway. The

948
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:39,119
parkway is not built for trucks to begin

949
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:41,760
with. It's built for cars,

950
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:43,839
even though it looks like a freeway. I

951
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:47,680
think the more that we can do to help

952
00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:51,200
bring some harmony to our residents,

953
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:56,320
the better off we are. So, yay on Jake

954
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:59,760
brakes, yay on covered loads. Um, third

955
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:01,920
one is speed and you're addressing that.

956
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:04,640
Maybe we need cameras for uncovered

957
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:07,119
loads. I don't know. But anyway, um,

958
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:10,000
those are my perspectives as far as this

959
00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:12,560
is a discussion for the committee. Is

960
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:15,920
um, the other council members have any

961
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,640
questions or input?

962
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,359
I

963
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,320
» Covered loads

964
00:40:17,359 --> 00:40:21,760
» For those companies. If you know, if

965
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,520
Jake breaks are an issue, uncovered

966
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,000
loads are an issue, wear and tear on the

967
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:28,880
streets an issue, maybe that's a

968
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:31,359
non-commercial street.

969
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,720
» And and you know, to address like the

970
00:40:31,359 --> 00:40:34,800
parking concerns, we've been addressing

971
00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:37,680
parking concerns with the 18-wheelers.

972
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:42,240
Um we had we had one not that long ago

973
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:44,240
on Douglas um that we addressed and and

974
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:45,119
we're constantly reviewing things. I

975
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:48,320
mean, you're going to see several

976
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:50,000
ordinances over the next, you know, year

977
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,079
or more where we're just trying to

978
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,320
update things that, you know, I think we

979
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:57,680
have one coming forward to y'all soon

980
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:59,520
that was original from 1903.

981
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,359
Um, so there's a lot of things that we

982
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,440
just have to bring and and get up to

983
00:41:01,359 --> 00:41:05,920
date and if we see something, we are

984
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:09,440
addressing it. Um, parking is one of

985
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:12,560
those concerns um, specifically for the

986
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:15,200
downtown area um, because there's a lot

987
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:17,200
of issues there. But with this issue, it

988
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,280
is something that would is on our radar.

989
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,440
We need to, you know, at least address

990
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,680
it and and like I said, we're also

991
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,359
communicating with those companies. Um,

992
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,280
once we're told who they are, if

993
00:41:25,359 --> 00:41:30,079
somebody sees it, even if we don't see

994
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:32,160
it and they just shoot us an email, that

995
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:34,160
communication goes a long way with a

996
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:37,280
company. when I when we contact

997
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:39,359
management go, hey, this is what was

998
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,440
seen today. Can you have a conversation

999
00:41:39,359 --> 00:41:42,720
with your truck drivers? And then we go

1000
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,200
from there.

1001
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:47,359
» Thank you. Council member Cotton,

1002
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:50,240
» Is is there an ordinance already

1003
00:41:47,359 --> 00:41:53,200
existing like from 1986 on the covered

1004
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:55,760
load uh enforcement?

1005
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,520
» So that so the covering of loads is

1006
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,359
actually handled by the RCW. It's under

1007
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,280
the unsecured load. So we don't need an

1008
00:41:59,359 --> 00:42:01,760
ordinance on that one. Um it's state

1009
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,760
law.

1010
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,359
» Okay. And so there's that's one of the

1011
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,880
reasons like commercial having

1012
00:42:05,359 --> 00:42:09,280
commercial motor vehicle group from

1013
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,880
state patrol come out. It's across the

1014
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,800
board the same. They're not trying to

1015
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,720
enforce an ordinance citing it in our

1016
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,800
court. Theirs would go to district

1017
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:18,079
court. Ours would go to municipal court,

1018
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,319
but it's the same law.

1019
00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:22,079
» Okay. Thank you.

1020
00:42:20,319 --> 00:42:25,920
» Thank you, Mayor. Please, if

1021
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:27,839
» I could, um, we've had a

1022
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:31,359
increasing number of complaints come in

1023
00:42:27,839 --> 00:42:32,800
on, um, covered loads. To to be

1024
00:42:31,359 --> 00:42:34,319
specific, they don't complain about

1025
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,400
covered load. They complain about the

1026
00:42:34,319 --> 00:42:38,720
little rock chips hitting their

1027
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:41,599
windshield and, you know, boom, there's

1028
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:45,680
your $500 deductible and your insurance

1029
00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:50,160
rate goes up next year. So um

1030
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:52,240
the the a question I have for you is um

1031
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,880
as we sort of move into more enforcement

1032
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:56,960
of this, is this something you want to

1033
00:42:54,880 --> 00:43:00,800
have a discussion with at council such

1034
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:03,920
that um uh and is it something you want

1035
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:06,240
us to start doing some um communications

1036
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:08,400
around so we start to get the word out

1037
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:12,240
to residents that really we are being

1038
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:14,960
responsive to this concern. Um so i.e.

1039
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:17,200
the great police department's doing some

1040
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,920
things. Do you want to do beyond that do

1041
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,520
some communications things around this

1042
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:26,520
maybe with the rest of the council and

1043
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:26,520
or with the rest of the community?

1044
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:32,319
» We'll do a round robin. My preference is

1045
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:37,280
the administration just puts out the

1046
00:43:32,319 --> 00:43:41,040
message that covered loads is important.

1047
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:43,920
Jake brakes exists. We have an ordinance

1048
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:46,640
and speed is a concern and that can all

1049
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:49,359
come from the administration side except

1050
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:52,560
we have to pass this this ordinance

1051
00:43:49,359 --> 00:43:55,359
piece first on that. But um other

1052
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:57,440
council members

1053
00:43:55,359 --> 00:43:59,680
» In the at least the public safety

1054
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:02,560
section of the agenda coming council

1055
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:04,560
agenda coming up as chair can you just

1056
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,200
mention that we had conversations in

1057
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:09,680
regards to uncovered loads. They've got

1058
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,760
the Jake break which they'll have.

1059
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,960
» Um,

1060
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,000
» And what was the other one?

1061
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,119
» Speed and parking.

1062
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,079
» Speed and parking.

1063
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:17,760
» Okay.

1064
00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:20,079
» And just make the rest of the council

1065
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:23,040
aware those conversations are going on.

1066
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:25,680
And yeah, I got in the community

1067
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,880
newsletter or whatever. Yeah.

1068
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,920
» I'm not sure you're getting the right

1069
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:32,240
audience, but Yeah.

1070
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,760
» Okay. Excellent. Thank you. If if I

1071
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:35,520
could on the audience, the point there

1072
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,280
is

1073
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,240
» To let the community know that we are

1074
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,079
responding

1075
00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:42,400
» And that we're we're doing some things

1076
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:44,880
in this area. I I think is the point I

1077
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:47,040
was trying to make. Yes. The people who

1078
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:50,160
are causing the problem are probably not

1079
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:52,240
paying attention to our communications.

1080
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,040
» Okay. Excellent. Thank you, Council

1081
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:55,280
Member Cotton.

1082
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:58,400
» And that I was along that same line. And

1083
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:01,760
I was just wondering if um since the

1084
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:04,079
truck drivers uh you know may not reside

1085
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:07,040
in this area where they're necessarily

1086
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:11,280
reading the the community news but I

1087
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:14,000
would think that to emphasize that that

1088
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:16,640
you know washed up I is you know

1089
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:20,079
Washington State Patrol is also in you

1090
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:22,560
know adding to the enforcement fines

1091
00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:25,359
have been increasing you know all those

1092
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:27,280
types of things I think are good

1093
00:45:25,359 --> 00:45:29,599
um

1094
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,520
approaches to the to communication that

1095
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:34,520
we put out so that that we're taking it

1096
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,520
seriously.

1097
00:45:35,359 --> 00:45:41,800
» Well done. Uh one more. Yes.

1098
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,800
» Are the truck drivers teamsters?

1099
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,119
» They may or may not be. It depends on

1100
00:45:44,319 --> 00:45:45,599
the company.

1101
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:47,040
» I don't know.

1102
00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:49,119
» I don't know. It may be interesting to

1103
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,680
contact the teamsters and say, "Hey,

1104
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:53,280
this has become an issue." whether you

1105
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,520
what whatever they want to do with it.

1106
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,800
They may do a general

1107
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,200
community, they probably have a

1108
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,960
newsletter to say, "Hey,

1109
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,880
there's heightened concern about

1110
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,760
unsecured loads and Jake breaks and all

1111
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,640
that."

1112
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,319
» May you

1113
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,079
» Washington Truckers Association, there's

1114
00:46:06,319 --> 00:46:09,280
a number along the lines of what you're

1115
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:11,839
saying. There are groups that we can go

1116
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:14,400
to and so we'll do that as well uh to

1117
00:46:11,839 --> 00:46:16,640
get the the word out. Um, as you all

1118
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:19,200
know with regard to the rocks, you know,

1119
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:22,560
it's the quarry and they go up the

1120
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:26,880
Parkway to get to I90 and when they

1121
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:29,040
don't cover the load, um, our residents

1122
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:32,000
pay for it with their windshields.

1123
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:34,400
» Well, and out of all fairness, covering

1124
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:37,040
the load helps to mitigate some of it,

1125
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:39,520
but whenever you put loose rock in the

1126
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:42,400
bed of a truck,

1127
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:44,160
» Happen. So, it's like, yeah, it's just

1128
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,720
one of those things. But, you know, we

1129
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:49,040
we definitely want to do everything to

1130
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:50,880
keep our uh community safe. And so,

1131
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,880
thank you and and thank you, Council

1132
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:55,280
Member Holloway. I will definitely make

1133
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:58,960
sure that that's part of the report out.

1134
00:46:55,280 --> 00:47:00,640
Um and then, uh with that, we're down to

1135
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,480
unless there's anything else you want to

1136
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:06,800
add, Chief. Thank you very much, Chief

1137
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:09,760
Heresy. Um items for future discussion.

1138
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:11,200
Council member Cotton, please. Uh well,

1139
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,200
you know, I always have something.

1140
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,800
» That's okay. That's good. That's why

1141
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,680
» Um and this may actually be more

1142
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:21,440
relevant after uh tomorrow's open house

1143
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:24,079
or meeting um with the public. But um I

1144
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:28,319
would certainly like to see um even

1145
00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:32,400
though the um uh Jupiter Power um

1146
00:47:28,319 --> 00:47:34,960
battery energy storage system uh is not

1147
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,480
within the city limits, it's immediately

1148
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,960
adjacent.

1149
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:42,640
And um I do believe it's a matter of

1150
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:45,599
public safety in the fact that our fire

1151
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:49,760
department will be the first uh agency

1152
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:52,960
to respond to any uh issues there. And

1153
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:55,359
so I I certainly think that, you know,

1154
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,359
pending what what's happening going

1155
00:47:55,359 --> 00:48:00,000
forward, this is something that

1156
00:47:57,359 --> 00:48:02,480
definitely needs to be on our radar from

1157
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:05,839
a public safety standpoint.

1158
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:07,520
um that that uh we would probably be

1159
00:48:05,839 --> 00:48:09,760
having more discussions about.

1160
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:13,839
» Okay. Well, we will take that under

1161
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:16,000
advisement. The um the current permit

1162
00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:18,079
process has been halted. They've

1163
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:20,480
withdrawn the the permit. However,

1164
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:22,800
there's a public hearing tomorrow night

1165
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:25,280
or a public presentation tomorrow night.

1166
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,920
Public presentation. Thank you. Sorry,

1167
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:30,160
said the wrong thing. Um where we can

1168
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:34,640
learn more about it and we'll continue

1169
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:37,599
to lean in. Um, anything else that uh,

1170
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:39,359
Chief Bailey or the mayor would like to

1171
00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:40,240
add?

1172
00:48:39,359 --> 00:48:42,400
» We're not right now.

1173
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:42,720
» Good. Right. Yeah. We're just kind of on

1174
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,480
a

1175
00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:44,880
» Something we're monitoring very closely.

1176
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,680
Yep.

1177
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:49,200
» Yeah. Okay. Anything else for the good

1178
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,280
of the order?

1179
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:53,280
» Hearing none, I will call for the

1180
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:56,640
adjournment.

1181
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:59,440
Any any objection tojourn?

1182
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:04,359
And hearing none, we stand adjourned at

1183
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:04,359
5:50 p.m. Thank you very much.