[0:05] I think you
[0:25] » Sorry.
[0:31] go ahead and call the uh civil service
commission meeting
[0:35] for Tuesday, August 5th uh is now
convened at 12:00 p.m.
[0:44] » Roll call.
>> Um Commissioner Gral
[0:46] » present.
>> Commissioner
[0:49] preser
[0:52] Spencer. Secretary Chief Exam here.
Before
[1:00] we proceed, is there information about
uh the gentleman sitting next to me?
[1:06] » Yes. Um Mr.
>> Did you want to take that in a different
[1:09] » I can I can add about it now. Mr.
Slipper um put in his resignation and I
[1:14] think I forwarded that to you guys the
letter. um he resigned as of July 28th
[1:22] and then um Mayor Sharp appointed Mr.
[1:35] » Did you get that email?
>> Yeah,
[1:36] » I must have missed that.
>> Forwarded forward. So,
[1:41] » thank you.
Okay, we'll move to the agenda items.
[1:46] um
minutes of from the 4:14 meeting. Do we
[1:52] have copies of those or
[1:58] they're right here?
>> Did you want to review these?
[2:05] » I don't.
>> Do you have another copy?
[2:09] » I just have that one.
>> Just that we'll share. I loaded my
[2:13] » I did email that email that I originally
sent for the meeting so that you guys
[2:17] can review them. So,
>> oh, this is the
[2:22] » Go ahead.
>> Yeah, the 414.
[2:25] » Okay. Okay. This wasn't the regular
schedule.
[2:28] » No, it wasn't. It's just the last that
need to be.
[2:33] » Yes, I I did I did review those. Okay.
[Music]
[2:40] So
we uh looking for a motion to approve
[2:46] the uh minutes for the 41425
meeting.
[2:50] » I make a motion we approving minutes.
>> Motion has been made to approve the
[2:57] minutes for 41425
meeting. Any questions or Oh, I'm sorry.
[3:03] Asking for a second. I'll second that.
Um,
[3:10] » point of order. Would he be voting on
that?
[3:14] » Can I mean it's just
>> procedial thing?
[3:18] » Yeah. Just kind of
>> Yeah, that's what I Any questions or
[3:21] comments?
>> We'll go ahead take a vote on favor
[3:26] unanimously.
[3:29] » Rules to fix the typo
in the U.
[3:38] and the um
rules.
[3:43] » Yes.
>> And then um
[3:49] so just a little background with the our
rules are on page 23 of the rules starts
[3:54] the definitions and letter F currently
reads class classific class classified
[4:01] service. Classified service means all
positions in the city police service and
[4:06] fire service which are fulfilled by
full-time full commission police
[4:09] officers or firefighters and which are
subject to the provisions of these rules
[4:13] as defined by chapters 2.23 and 2.25 of
the municipal code excluding the chiefs
[4:19] of fire and police department. Obviously
that is not correct and you just need to
[4:24] correct it. Um it'll be corrected to
read classified service. classified
[4:30] service mean all positions in the city
police service which are filled by
[4:34] full-time fully commissioned police
officers and which are subject to the
[4:37] provisions of these regulations
identified by chapters 2.45 and 2.42 or
[4:42] two of the Salt Lake Municipal Code
excluding the chief states.
[4:50] And if you guys accept that, um, I have
the signature page signing to adopt the
[4:56] rules and then I'll be able to print
that all out and get it forwarded to you
[4:59] in a full copy by the end of today.
>> Does our
[5:08] Thank you. Uh does our
[5:13] ordinance 2.45
and 2.42 do you have those available?
[5:18] » I do have the um I did um 2.45 covers
the service civil service commission.
[5:26] The 2.42 covers the police department
and there isn't anything left in there
[5:30] because they were removed with the chief
in that last ordinance we had. So um I
[5:35] pull it up on my phone if you want to
but yeah. So basically it would be
[5:40] covering this but I did include the 2.45
just because I mean 2.42 just because it
[5:45] did.
>> That's right. And
[5:49] » the the ordin the council passed the
ordinance to exclude the police chief
[5:55] from civil service.
>> Okay.
[5:57] » Yeah. So I just it um 2.42 covers the
police department in the code but I do
[6:04] have a copy of the 2.45 four of them.
>> Okay,
[6:08] » that's correct.
>> Did anyone want to see this? Any
[6:11] questions or discussion?
>> I don't read.
[6:15] » All right. Um,
look for a motion to
[6:21] um
fix the
[6:26] rule uh
11 definition section 1F
[6:35] to the
secretar's recommendation. Thank you.
[6:41] Okay.
[6:47] I read it out. So,
we'll look for that motion. Okay.
[6:51] » You can just say so move.
>> I'll make a motion. We make the change.
[6:55] » Okay. Second.
>> Second.
[6:57] » Motion and the second has been made to
uh correct the rules on page 23. Any
[7:04] questions or discussion? Taking to vote.
All in favor?
[7:08] » I. Motion carries.
>> All right. So now I'll pass along the
[7:11] signature page and then I'll just go at
the end of the rule and then I'll be
[7:15] able to figure it out all the correct
[7:37] home if you guys come in, Right.
[7:57] Next agenda item, schedule the next
monthly meeting.
[8:10] What are we looking at?
[8:15] How's our eligibility list?
>> Um,
[8:20] there's two current.
[8:26] » And do we have any openings?
>> That'll be up to the chief. I don't know
[8:32] if I don't know if we'll move forward
with the six position yet or we're
[8:35] staying in five. We do have five ones
that she
[8:38] » Okay,
got two and if we need to open it up, we
[8:42] can do that.
Okay,
[8:48] » so we're looking at September
[8:53] start with your busy schedule, work our
way around.
[9:01] I really don't know. I have the police
department. We're switching records and
[9:07] I have
>> I'm not sure.
[9:14] » Um so
September may work. Um,
[9:22] I'll see
this
[9:27] might be able to be something in what do
you guys have unavailable?
[9:42] available.
>> You're available.
[9:46] » September.
[9:50] » Can't give you dates right now.
>> Okay. And we can also look into like the
[9:54] first part of October. But again, we
will also be having another some sort of
[10:00] meeting
on the 19th to kind of start scheduling
[10:04] the other stuff. So it might get until
October too. So we can do a tenative
[10:11] meeting.
>> Sure.
[10:14] » Maybe for the
>> put a stake in the ground
[10:16] » the 23rd.
That's our Tuesday.
[10:23] » We'll do that.
[10:27] » We're on the same time.
>> Um I usually let the senior center kind
[10:33] of but I I prefer 1:30. the 1:30 to work
for you guys better than new. Yes,
[10:39] » today it was new because they had other
things scheduled. So, we'll aim for 1:30
[10:43] on the 23rd and then I will check with
the senior center get back available for
[10:46] next
>> day of the week.
[10:48] » It's a Tuesday.
>> Tuesday. Okay.
[10:57] » And just send us out notices if it
changes. Otherwise, your usual
[11:05] a week before whatever came. It was a
reminder.
[11:50] We will either of the commissioners have
anything else they'd like to discuss?
[11:55] » No, I don't.
>> Okay.
[11:57] » I'd like to bring up um
an email request that I sent to the
[12:03] secretary to review officer Bezabeno's
hiring process.
[12:10] did not get a response, but it's still
something.
[12:19] » So, um I did respond. Um I did send that
email forwarded to our city attorney and
[12:25] um you guys are your commission are not
pretty
[12:31] » and work grounds that she voted that
>> your what your rules um allow you guys
[12:37] to be.
You're clear not to receive those that
[12:43] you asked for specifically. You asked
for
[12:49] » Yes. I asked for come prepared with the
background report, a psychological
[12:53] testing and CJTC equivalency
examination.
[12:56] » Correct.
>> Those are only reviewed by the hiring.
[13:00] » I understand. I'm not looking for the
actual reports. I'm looking for the
[13:05] outcome of those reports.
>> Well, everything was
[13:10] done and he was tired so he passed
everything that's now the past fails and
[13:18] » well I have knowledge that there may
have been some irregularities in the
[13:24] hiring process that's what I'm guessing
so if you have a complaint you can
[13:31] forward that to the city or to CJ Thank
you.
[13:41] » Or I can open the investigation
[13:45] and consult our commission attorney.
[13:51] He's been hired for
[13:56] and we are directed. You can coun you
have to bring that to the city.
[14:07] The irregularity is become even more
significant given the recent accident by
[14:11] this officer
[14:15] just for the record.
Okay,
[14:19] we'll move to ajourna.
You're going to have public comment.
[14:25] » No, we don't have public.
>> You did before. I mean, so have you
[14:30] changed?
on any public comment.
[14:33] » I'm okay with it.
>> Oh, I don't care. It's fine with me.
[14:37] » Okay, commissioner.
>> That's fine.
[14:40] » Okay, go ahead. Where are we as far as
the schedule for the uh cops termination
[14:45] period?
>> There'll be a hearing on the 19th. The
[14:50] next hearing is on the 19th at 2:00
here.
[14:54] » Will that be the actual thought?
>> No, this is a hearing to reschedule all
[14:59] the previous dates that were set.
[15:04] at 2 p.m. Yes.
[15:10] Anything else?
[15:24] Can you give us um secretary, can you
give us an update on the status of the
[15:32] uh open chief position?
>> Um there is an agenda item on tomorrow's
[15:38] agenda for a contract to be um approved
or reviewed by council.
[15:44] » Okay.
>> So an offer has been extended to a
[15:48] candidate.
[15:51] Um, was the position advertised?
>> Yeah.
[15:56] » How many applicants did it?
>> A lot.
[15:59] » Oh, good. That's better than what we had
in that. Okay.
[16:05] Anything else?
>> Okay.
[16:07] » We'll move to ajourn.
We adjourn. Okay. Second. Second.
[16:13] » All in favor? Meeting journ. Thank you.