[0:02] Acknowledge managers report chairman
commission at this time I have no
[0:06] manager report
[0:12] I just want to throw out that um
we're sad but happy our reporter Jessica
[0:18] is this will be your last meeting so
moving on to a bigger and better things
[0:23] but we'll miss having her
>> why would we be sad [laughter]
[0:29] with Well, you can.
>> Congratulations.
[0:33] » I'm gonna go to the geology department
at the bureau. They have a publication.
[0:40] [laughter]
[0:44] » All right. Congratulations.
[0:48] » Commissioner,
[0:52] » the only thing I have is kids are back
at school. That's good. Hope they'll
[0:57] learn something.
So, it's football season. I apologize to
[1:00] the kids. I I recommitted myself to my
son for a little bit. So, I've been
[1:06] gone, but uh I'll manage to be
[1:11] » That's all I have. Uh birthdays.
[1:19] [clears throat]
[1:21] » Augusta
[1:26] » 29 again.
>> [laughter]
[1:30] » DW August 4th Garza Sheriff's Department
August 7th
[1:36] Mark Bell detention August 9th
Jeremy Adams maint
[1:51] 15
[1:55] department August 17th
Crisilla assessors August 20th. Robert
[2:01] Moran detention center August 20th
[2:06] detention center August 22nd Harvest
Detention Center August 29th. Happy
[2:12] birthday
>> and my family. I don't think I have any
[2:16] but I do have my needs. It's either
August or September. So please obviously
[2:25] okay number nine public comment during
this portion of our meeting we welcome
[2:29] your suggestions and want to hear your
concerns not a question as per speakers
[2:35] will be limited to three minutes the
county commission is not able to take
[2:39] action on matter discussed during public
comment speakers are requested to state
[2:43] their name for the record we have public
comment
[2:51] first.
>> Okay, you're already on the table.
[2:54] [laughter]
>> Just kidding.
[2:56] » I can talk.
>> No, no.
[3:00] » Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Donna Harris.
I live on the Katus Road
[3:05] and I'm know you're not going to answer,
but I would like to hear an update
[3:08] sometime about when you're going to
start grading our road again. I've done
[3:11] a little research into that and it's
it's not as great an area as you'd like
[3:16] to wish it were when you graded a road
for a hundred years and then just
[3:20] basically throw us the middle finger.
This is really not acceptable. And if
[3:24] you keep it up, there's not going to be
a road. The bar ditches are this deep
[3:29] and it's getting to where if you see a
cloud, you better start looking for a
[3:32] place to pull over because between here
and two miles down there, there's not a
[3:35] way for two cars to pass in there.
I know you got one more road graater
[3:40] since the last time you said you were
only going to grade two miles.
[3:44] So, I don't know where that 300 miles
went. But you need to find somewhere to
[3:48] do the rest of that road.
And if you think I'm going to sit down
[3:53] and go away and never come back, you're
wrong.
[3:57] » Thank you.
>> Welcome.
[4:01] » Anybody else?
[4:16] My name is Gary Hler. I live in San
Antonio
[4:21] and I
got a complaint about the weeds
[4:29] and
the lack of
[4:35] them being attended to by the people
that live there.
[4:43] They don't seem to give a hoop
what happens.
[4:50] And
we got a street there.
[4:55] And four months ago, my wife called
county manager
[5:01] and to get a new street sign put up on
Third Street.
[5:08] It [clears throat] didn't happen.
[5:12] And there's no stop sign.
[5:17] And also
when you pull out
[5:23] into the church,
you have to go completely to the middle
[5:29] of the road before you can see anybody
coming.
[5:36] I think something needs to be done about
it before they have an accident.
[5:43] And
[5:47] I had [laughter]
the county manager
[5:53] out there yesterday
and they looked at it. They seen there's
[6:00] a problem.
They said they can't do nothing about
[6:04] it.
[6:08] That's all. [snorts]
[6:12] » Thank you.
[6:23] My name is Gonzalez. I've lived in Cro
now for about 50 years and I think we
[6:29] have what we call a flocking problem in
this area. Um I am against the block
[6:34] cameras. I've spoken to many people on
both sides. I I understand the law
[6:39] enforcement side of it. I have a
daughter who was a deputy in this county
[6:42] for a long time and a police officer.
Her idea was well S. Pearl is kind of
[6:47] the funnel for the cartel moving drugs
through this area. So I can see where
[6:52] it'd be a good tool. I on the other hand
don't really like the government
[6:57] observing everything that's done by
everybody.
[7:01] I feel like if I were to park in a
public area not too far from Philip's
[7:06] house and filmed everything he did, we
went out back where he had which
[7:12] direction he went. I'm going to sell the
information. I'm going to do anything
[7:15] with it. I just want to have it.
And that's okay because we have no
[7:20] reasonable expectation of privacy in our
vehicles as has been shown in court.
[7:26] But I don't like it. And I don't like
the fact that they were put in without
[7:30] any of your knowledge really. Uh I
understand Andy Lrich was the county
[7:36] manager before and he and the sheriff
are the ones from the um
[7:42] stories that were in defensive chieft.
It was very well covered that uh these
[7:47] are the ones who pushed it through. I
talked to some of the commissioners that
[7:52] it's a two-year contract. I would like
to see it stopped and I don't know how
[7:57] that's done. Will you vote to put it in?
Do we have to vote to take it out? U can
[8:02] it be done? Could it be done? Do we have
to have a referendum? I would like for
[8:06] the commission to look into that and I
will check back later.
[8:11] Thank you.
[8:18] » Any [clears throat] other public
comment?
[8:32] Good evening, um, manager and county
commission. Um, I was on the agenda for
[8:38] last month for matching funds. Um, and
then I couldn't make that meeting, but
[8:43] then got asked to come under public
comment because [laughter] I think I was
[8:47] forgotten off of the agenda for the
problem.
[8:51] Um, we submitted I'm from the seven
judicial district court. I'm the CEO and
[8:56] I have my chief judge here. And so, um,
we submitted for a capital outlay
[9:01] request to replace the carpet in the,
uh, courthouse. And we were told by the
[9:06] county that there's possible asbestous
under the carpet. Um,
[9:12] I know when we go before the
legislators, they're going to ask, "Have
[9:15] you talked to the county about replacing
the carpet?" which we we would like to
[9:20] we submitted on the beha on behalf of
the county. However, I know they will
[9:24] ask about the asbestous removal and that
portion is about 80,000. The total
[9:29] request is about 280,000.
So, I wasn't sure if there was anything
[9:34] the county could do for matching funds
for at least the asbestous portion.
[9:39] Um, and I know you probably aren't
prepared to answer this since we didn't
[9:43] know I was going to be here.
So, I'm not sure what we can do about
[9:48] matching funds because I know you
probably already submitted your request
[9:52] for the year, but one idea was to talk
to our legislators, our um
[9:57] representatives about possibly securing
funds through them for the county to
[10:02] help us.
So, just wondering if there's any
[10:07] matching funds available for us.
[10:14] » Yeah, go ahead. chairman. Um, yeah,
definitely. Let's um
[10:18] » I'll I'll make an appointment with you.
Okay.
[10:23] Okay.
>> That would be something.
[10:25] » Excellent. Okay. So, just go and make an
appointment and there was a second
[10:29] portion of mine funds, but I'll include
that in the meeting when I talk.
[10:34] » Thank you.
>> Okay. Thank you so much.
[10:36] » No, that's okay. Thank you.
[10:42] » [clears throat]
>> Is there any other public comment?
[10:50] » All right, moving forward. Uh,
presentations.
[10:53] » Yeah. Rain water road Jacob
Zins Zins. There you go. And do farm
[11:02] represent.
So, uh, I'm not sure that this process.
[11:07] So, I'll let Adrian explain how this
works.
[11:13] Mr. Chairman, do we have anyone from Red
Dog Farms here?
[11:16] » Yeah.
>> Okay, great. And what's your name, sir?
[11:19] » Sanchez.
>> Okay. Um, so I talked to the chairman
[11:23] and we're going to give each side two
minutes, I mean 10 minutes to to talk,
[11:28] um, so we'll time that to make sure it's
fair. One thing that we will also do,
[11:33] um, is you can use your 10 minutes
however you want, but if you would like,
[11:38] let me know if you would like to reserve
a rebuttal. So you could say, you know,
[11:40] I'll use eight minutes and two minutes
of rebuttal um if you would like to do
[11:44] that. You don't have to talk for 10
minutes, but you have the full 10
[11:47] minutes. So um so let's get you you want
to do a rebuttal reserve rebuttal?
[11:52] » Yeah, definitely. Yeah.
>> How much?
[11:54] » Five and five.
>> Five and five. Yeah.
[11:55] » Okay. And and Mr. Five and five as well.
So that'll be 10 10 total.
[12:01] » Okay. Okay. [snorts]
>> You guys want to flip a coin? Who goes
[12:05] first?
[12:09] » Cool. first.
[12:18] » All right. Can you guys hear me?
>> Commissioner, good evening. Thank you
[12:22] for allowing me to speak tonight. A
special thanks to Chairman Gonzalez for
[12:25] sponsoring me on tonight's agenda. I'm
here to hopefully help fill in any
[12:29] blanks and answer any questions you
might have about where the current
[12:31] situation with County Road 265 stands.
Before I do that though, I just wanted
[12:35] to tell you a little more about myself
and how I ended up in Squirrel County in
[12:38] the first place. As a Navy veteran, I
struggled to find where I felt
[12:41] comfortable at since leaving the
service. My wife and I have tried living
[12:44] in both Colorado and Utah where we
traveled extensively, but we never found
[12:47] anywhere perfect for us. We thought
maybe the ocean was I thought maybe the
[12:51] ocean was what I was missing and we
tried living on a sailboat the east
[12:53] coast from Maryland all the way down to
Florida, but that wasn't right either.
[12:56] After we got a motor home and started
traveling, trying to find somewhere we
[12:59] felt happy, comfortable, and aligned
with the globe community. We were making
[13:02] our way out to Arizona when we just
happened to stop its core on the way. At
[13:05] first, it was only going to be for a
night, then a week. Then we started
[13:08] realizing how much we loved it here and
how perfect it was for us. We began
[13:11] looking for jobs and places to live. My
wife Jess even briefly worked for the
[13:14] county of Sakora as finance director
before unfortunately having to take a
[13:17] different role for fiscal reasons. We
purchased our first property in Sakoro
[13:21] County at the last tax auction. I stood
in this room and bought five acres of
[13:24] the VA subdivision specifically because
it was beautiful and bordered public
[13:28] lands, something we could only dream of
owning in most places. By this point, we
[13:31] were hooked on Sakor County and knew it
was the place for us. There was nowhere
[13:34] else we'd been to in 48 states that
offered the combination of things Sakor
[13:37] County does for us. It was the first
time in many years I felt truly at home
[13:40] and comfortable because the property we
had purchased in downtown historical
[13:44] road network. The very first time we
initiated contact with the land owners.
[13:48] Reserve the rest of my time. All right.
[14:02] Good evening. This is my sister Alicia.
I'm Amigo Sanchez with Red Farm. Um we
[14:08] chairman of the board, members of the
board, thank you for letting us be on
[14:10] the agenda tonight. Thank you for
listening to us tonight. Um as far as
[14:14] Mr. Zalinski, we are in negotiations as
Mr. Zalinsky through our legal counsel.
[14:20] So, we're trying to see if we can work
out something um up to our nom gate um
[14:26] rainwater. Um as far as county road, we
have proven a lot of uh we found a lot
[14:31] of evidence showing that this is not a
county road. And if this is opened up to
[14:35] a county road, just on a side note, uh
one, we're going to allow I don't know
[14:39] if you guys are any ranchers or private
land owners in this on the board, but if
[14:43] you are, you know that uh thieving um
logs for they come in for logging, they
[14:48] come in for drugs, they come in for
math, they're going to start in the
[14:52] Indian rooms on public land um on the
cho area. So, we're going to have a lot
[14:56] of thieves come in, which we've been
able to shut off. Um the previous owner
[14:59] who put the gate there Donaldson also
had the gate there as well. Um we've
[15:05] never had the county maintain that road
since we've had the ranch. She's never
[15:08] had the county maintain the road other
than a snowstorm in 88 and I believe one
[15:13] other time that they asked the county
because the rain was so bad that they
[15:16] asked the county not the county manager
but the county greater operator to come
[15:20] in.
>> You mentioned 1980 the only time you've
[15:24] seen so you've been there for 38 years.
No, I just saw the public record.
[15:28] » Yeah, we've been there since 0 believe
[15:34] » 2019.
>> And he also talked to Joan Donaldson to
[15:37] go through her memory of what she said
and that's when she said this.
[15:41] » Yeah. And Monty's been there since his
family's been there since the 30s. So he
[15:47] said that the county has never
maintained this actually up to the
[15:51] house.
[16:00] You have [laughter]
[16:03] Mr. Slinski, you have
5 minutes and 51 seconds left. I will
[16:08] try to be fast. So, I just wanted, you
know, rebuttal a couple things. I have
[16:13] been in contact with their attorney, but
we have made no forward progress
[16:17] whatsoever. Um, I still haven't even
gotten him to agree that Ruby Gonzalez,
[16:21] the other public individual who has
property back there who spoken before
[16:24] during public comment, needs to be a
part of any solution that we come to
[16:28] because he's he's a member of the public
who deserves access the same as everyone
[16:31] else. Um, I did send their attorney the
updated evidence that is actually on the
[16:36] Sakor County certified main table is the
ones you guys sign and sent off to the
[16:39] state every year. It's on that list and
has been for a long time. I sent that to
[16:42] attorney and they have even they they
acknowledge they got it but they have
[16:45] not said anything about whether that
changes their position or anything. So
[16:49] they're not really even looking at
things anymore. Um the whole argument
[16:54] that it's not maintained how did it end
on the maintenance list kind of end up
[16:58] with multiple name changes. It's been
listed as a bladed and graded road since
[17:02] like 56. It would take me longer to pull
my records tabs that date, but it's been
[17:06] a long time.
Um, and I would also question, you know,
[17:10] they say they found a lot of evidence
that it's not county road. U, I would
[17:14] love to know what evidence that is
because I haven't found any. The only
[17:17] evidence you might find be a lack of
evidence, which according to New Mexico
[17:21] court rules, a lack of evidence on the
county, there's actually organized
[17:24] records to look through. You'd expect to
find county road repairs. We're not
[17:28] going to find anything. You can't say
they're missing. Um, also there's a
[17:33] president in Sakoro County for not
vacating a road if it's opposed. That's
[17:36] insensor county commissioner books book
D page 432. The assistant district
[17:42] attorney said a county road may not be
closed if there is someone opposing it.
[17:47] Let's see.
And the last thing I would say was the
[17:52] argument that that would mean you'd have
to maintain the road. The support county
[17:56] has a plethora of roads that they don't
maintain on the maintained list. That's
[17:59] a separate decision made by you the
commissioners. It's your decision to
[18:02] make whether you maintain a road that's
certified county after county road. It
[18:06] states that clearly on the Seagora
County website as well there's many many
[18:11] of my husband roads in Scor County that
are not on the maintained list. So that
[18:15] would be my my biggest uh counterpoint.
So I guess that's about it. I think you
[18:21] guys have all the other evidence that I
have found and presented
[18:24] many many many maps and documents and
things supporting that position. So I
[18:29] thank you for your consideration and
your time and I hope we can reach a
[18:32] productive conclusion this. Thank you.
[18:47] » How much time do I have?
>> Seven minutes. Uh so one thing is it may
[18:54] be on a maintained list. That does not
mean it's been maintained. Um and there
[18:59] is to our lawyer there is a deal that
they said it's been not maintained for
[19:03] so many years that there is an abandoned
clause they they can use in court. Um
[19:07] also on his list of maps that he's been
sending us and we are negotiating. It
[19:11] takes time to actually have legal
counsel go through this stuff. We're not
[19:15] using AI. We're not we're trying to go
through hard books, hard evidence and
[19:19] stuff. So it is taking a while. Our um
our attorneys are looking through
[19:23] through this stuff. They got to talk to
us. We got to have meetings. This stuff
[19:27] takes a while. Um, as far as list maps
that he has provided, some of the maps
[19:32] aren't even relevant to our area. Um,
they're five miles off in locations
[19:37] where he's, you know, claiming that the
road is. The road's not on our land.
[19:41] It's on there. There's one trail that he
said comes to the Jupo, which if that's
[19:45] a public road, he's more than welcome to
come through that road because it's
[19:49] through the northern side. And if that's
a place that he said that he does have
[19:53] re relevance for a county road, he's
more than welcome to use that. It's not
[19:57] on our land. And it does get grant him
access he says through his map like sh.
[20:02] So if he wants to use that, that's more
than more than I we're fine with that.
[20:07] Um but um there is some other stuff that
he has provided. Um they're not even on
[20:13] our section range and talent. So like I
said, we are looking into it. It just
[20:17] takes time to really go through all of
this stuff. It's kind of again like a
[20:22] shotgun, right? You just you just shoot
it and see where all the shells lay and
[20:26] trying to pick up pizzas and we're
trying to go and see does our ranch even
[20:30] correlate with the map that he's
showing. So
[20:34] » I just um there's other ways to access
this property than going through ours.
[20:40] And I I think that that's a valid point
um that needs to be addressed. There are
[20:46] other ways
>> according to this map they show us
[20:49] there's a northern route that comes up
which is county road and it does come up
[20:53] to the shoe
>> and the city of cha which is there and
[20:56] then you can come back in three miles to
his
[21:00] » our road is probably nicer because we
maintain it ourselves to the ranch
[21:04] » and that might be a desire of you know
but there are other access points
[21:09] » what's your I think uh Joseph you've got
them right
[21:14] » any questions
>> any questions
[21:17] How you doing?
[21:25] [laughter]
[21:35] » Yeah. Okay. So,
we'll uh move on to the agenda here.
[21:40] There's no
what you guys had to say. Action items
[21:45] number 11. Consideration of resolution
2026-45
[21:50] adopting a salary study agreement basis
on employees be made pursuant to a
[21:56] salary study at the wage compensation
plan.
[22:01] » Second question
>> question and it goes without saying this
[22:06] is pending that we have the money. It
does not state in this resolution. I'm
[22:10] just clarifying that that we have to
bring them to a certain level within
[22:13] certain times depending on finances of
the county. Correct. Chairman,
[22:16] » commissioner, that is correct. It it
does set out the you know it sets out
[22:20] the um the ranges and so those will need
to be selected through the budget
[22:25] process by the board. But really
essentially what this resolution is
[22:28] doing is saying that any changes for you
know employee wages needed to be
[22:34] consistent with the pay plan so that you
know one person isn't getting something
[22:38] different than outside of pay plan. That
way it just gives us
[22:42] a baseline basically and and it gives
the the manager direction like sorry I
[22:48] you know you're I know you're asking for
$20 more an hour but this is what it is.
[22:54] What do you think? I should change your
mind. I'm sorry.
[23:00] [laughter]
All right. So, I think I have a first
[23:02] from commissioner and a second for
commission.
[23:07] » All in favor?
>> I oppose.
[23:11] None. So, resolution 2026-45
adopting the salary study budget um
[23:18] pending the be
raises.
[23:23] Okay. 11B approval of memorand
memorandum understanding the juvenile
[23:29] justice board for community partnership.
[23:37] » That's just one of these that we always
do.
[23:39] » Yes. Yeah.
>> I'll make motion to approve.
[23:42] » Second
motion from commissioner and a second
[23:46] from commissioner for the approval of
the memorandum. Memorandum understands
[23:52] that you know the support for community
partnership. All in favor?
[23:56] » I both were partners. Okay. 11 C.
Approval of agreement with Dennis
[24:02] Engineering for on call engineering
services for RFP 2026-01-4018.
[24:11] Mr. Chair, members of the commission,
the county administration issued an RFP.
[24:16] Um the
Dennis Engineering was the the highest
[24:21] ranked selective offer. This is very
similar to the contract that we've had
[24:26] with them previously for a number of
years and their prices have not gone up
[24:30] um in all categories actually they
remain relatively reasonable based on
[24:36] you know all the inflation that's going
on. So I recommend
[24:40] » Was there any other
[24:44] other biders?
Is this kind of a renewal thing?
[24:49] » That's right. They've been I think
they've done this for around eight years
[24:52] for us. So, this is
>> I'll make a motion to approve.
[25:01] » Motion for approval from Commissioner
from Commissioner Commission for
[25:07] Dennis Engineering
for call engineering services. All in
[25:12] favor? I
>> both
[25:19] 11D acknowledge the personel changes.
>> Mr. Chairman, I'll do that if you'd
[25:25] like. Eugene Bamante, appraiser, tech
assistant, technician, assistant
[25:30] assessor's office. New hire,
[25:34] mechanic assistant, road department, new
hire.
[25:38] Sean Mir, a detention center officer,
new hire.
[25:44] Andreas Walter, detention officer,
[clears throat] the new hire.
[25:50] Francine Gonzalez, Kabigo, Sheriff's
Department, resigned.
[25:55] Athena assumes uh DWI program retired.
[26:02] I'll second that.
So got a motion from vice chair going
[26:09] ahead for the approval of the personal
changes and a second from myself. All in
[26:13] favor? I opposed. Okay. I [laughter]
just have to do this because I missed it
[26:18] under implication. Uh we lost a county
employee of 17 years. I just know his
[26:24] first name since he used to work for the
schools. And may he rest in peace and
[26:31] glad be with this man.
Amen.
[26:36] Okay. Number 12, financial action items.
>> Yes.
[26:43] Motion in regards to combining 12 A and
12B.
[26:48] So
[26:52] 12 A
checks
[26:56] August 11th now 1 million65,99810.
[27:03] Then 12B
approval of payroll checks dating
[27:09] [clears throat] August 11th for two
payrolls versus July 9th of 28,985.
[27:20] And then the second payroll for July
23rd,
[27:24] $46,18948
[27:29] totaling
689,13741.
[27:38] Got a motion from Commissioner Secret, a
second from Vice Chair Con for the
[27:42] approval of payroll and vendor check.
All in favor? I
[27:49] both
[27:52] Number 13, exe executive session motion
and roll call vote to go into executive
[27:57] session and that pursuant to New Mexico
statute 10-15-1 [clears throat]
[28:02] the following matter
ill
[28:06] will
be discussed in close [laughter]
[28:09] session.
[28:13] » Chairman Joe.
>> Yes.
[28:15] » Commissioner.
>> Yes ma'am.
[28:17] » Commissioner John.
>> Yes ma'am. Vice Chairman.
[28:20] » Yes.
[28:28] » So, uh, we're in executive session.
[1:12:50] Motion and voting to return to regular
session.
[1:12:55] » Roll call.
[1:13:00] » Chairman Joe.
>> Yes.
[1:13:02] » Commissioner.
>> Yes, ma'am. Commissioner John.
[1:13:07] » Yes, ma'am.
>> Vice Chairman Denny Monet.
[1:13:09] » Yes.
>> Commissioner Phil.
[1:13:11] » Yes.
>> Motion vote discussing close session
[1:13:16] will be limited to those qualified
motion and then no final action was
[1:13:20] taken as pursuit statute section 1015-1.
>> Second.
[1:13:27] » A motion from myself and a second from
commissioner vice chair on there. All in
[1:13:33] favor is roll
call.
[1:13:38] [clears throat]
>> Yes.
[1:13:40] » Mr. Craig.
>> Yes.
[1:13:43] » Commissioner John.
>> Yes.
[1:13:44] » Viceman.
>> Yes.
[1:13:46] » Commissioner Philip.
>> Yes.
[1:13:49] » Okay. 14A direction to staff
[clears throat]
[1:13:54] rainwater aka
CRV 20 270 and aka CR 265.
[1:14:02] Mr. Chairman.
>> Yes.
[1:14:04] » Based on the information we have, I'd
like to make the motion that we give the
[1:14:08] county manager the authority to take
legal action to open the road just to
[1:14:12] the ranch house on the road stated in
the motion for water aka CB CRB 270 and
[1:14:20] CR265.
>> I'll second that.
[1:14:25] Got a motion from uh vice chair,
second from myself
[1:14:32] uh for the Russian to staff concerning
rain water. All in favor?
[1:14:38] » I oppose.
So go forward with that. 14B
[1:14:44] consideration of resolution 2026-46
accepting accepting Box Canyon Road for
[1:14:52] maintenance.
>> Chair members commission. This is a road
[1:14:55] that was previously on the maintain road
list and was maintained. It was taken
[1:15:01] off around 5 years ago and there's a
request from the constituents to add it
[1:15:06] again.
>> I'll make motion to put it back on the
[1:15:11] list. There's a second.
>> Got a motion from motion from
[1:15:16] commissioner and a second from
commissioner and commissioner
[1:15:22] for u putting [laughter] box canyon roll
back on the maintenance. All in favor I
[1:15:28] propose.
So box can back on the maintenance
[1:15:34] number 15. Next commission meeting
regular meeting.
[1:15:38] » Let me say 15.
>> 15.
[1:15:42] September 15th, start of Friday at 5:00
p.m.
[1:15:47] Uh, we are injured.