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September 15, 2010.

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Mayor Bester.

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Councillor Travis Lopez.

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Councillor Dean.

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Councillor Fleming.

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Yeah, Councillor Gonzalez, he's at his council meeting right now, should be here in a little bit.

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Council, Yeah.

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Senator Partridge.

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Councillor Romero.

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Councillor Solomi.

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We have a quorum.

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Christ, you Pledge of Allegiance.

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And understand.

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Move. We approve the.

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Consent agenda.

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As presented.

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Second. Second, any discussion on it?

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Fonte.

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Aye.

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And.

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I've done that.

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And the approval of the agenda and the consideration of the minutes and.

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We're right up to the public forum.

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We have this oral Stingrays.

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That are here.

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Cody.

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Good afternoon. So it's just me today.

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Seasons been really chaotic.

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And I was not able to get on the agenda because I've been out of town until now.

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And we're far enough out of the season that I was not able to organize my kids and my coaches to be here.

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But I still wanted to thank you guys.

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I know you guys didn't run the pool this year, but.

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I mean, you still paid for our transportation and our insurance and.

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I don't think we could afford her on a swim team without self support.

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Our costs would go up to like around.

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200 bucks a kid and I don't think that's doable for most of our students.

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For most of our swimmers, so I would just like to give my.

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My my gratitude to the city for continuing to support us.

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Even though the obligation is now through tech, through our.

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Are pulling it well. We appreciate your leadership in this program.

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Is this going to be your last year?

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I'm here for at least another summer.

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Holograms. Because how long has it been now?

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This this is my fourth year.

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As head coach.

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Well, great. Good job. So how many do you know numbers. Do you have any numbers? So I had 65 kids this year. I'm a little bit

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down. We had 79 last year. I think part of it was starting so late in the season.

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I was projecting around 80.

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I got more swimmers.

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Our I have more new swimmers than we had in the last few years, so if we continue to follow that trend.

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Should be around 8085.

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Next year or the year after?

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I'm hoping to chase that.

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Were you guys pretty competitive?

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This is a rough year. We got in the water really late. We usually start in May through a high school clinic.

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We work with tech to use.

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Our season was cut from around 10 weeks.

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Almost 4.

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So now how did it work out with tech and everything?

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Good. We.

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Got in the water late.

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But that was just.

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A whole bunch of stuff that.

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Was kind of out of our control.

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Tech's done a good job of operating the facility.

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They've gotten their lifeguards there. They've.

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I have the staff.

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They've done a good job.

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So, so will you have another session that's going to be in the spring?

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What are we going to do with that? Are they going to?

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So I'm hoping it's depending on what tech decides the pilot is up in.

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To me, I don't remember the MLU.

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So I'm hoping whatever pool, if we have a pool open, we'll we'll start back up in May.

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We're doing some winter stuff right now informally.

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That's through Coach Dow and I as an independent contractors.

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Just because our league doesn't let us swim out of season.

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It's an insurance thing, so we're.

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Independently insured.

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Through another group and we're doing some.

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Out of season work, but our season picks back up in May.

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Well, congratulations for the young people.

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Yeah, speaking as a council member but also a parent, I.

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Session that's going to be in the spring.

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So I'm OK and depending on what?

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There's an echo, light echo in, you know, I was a ventriloquist.

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Sorry about that.

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We're doing the.

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I want to thank you guys and just a council member but also a parent. All my kids went through the program and.

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And you guys promote.

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Like very positive environment, very.

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Competitive environment and.

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And you guys promote a sport?

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That you can do lifelong.

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Lifelong health. We really appreciate what you guys do.

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Thank you. Yeah.

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I like the the things y'all do with swim.

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Cody, you guys compete in the biggest classes like.

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Wrestling does.

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You guys start with your kids at a very young age and see them through the high school, the same coaches.

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See those kids through their high school years.

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So I think I do a great job. We're grateful.

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That you do what you do.

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So we appreciate that. Thank you.

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Thank you, Cody. Good job.

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Thank you guys.

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Anyone else on the?

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That's not on the agenda. I would like to make a comment.

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Public forum.

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Yes, ma'am, That's right.

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Mayor Basker and city councilors.

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The people of Sakura deserve to know about.

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Proposed industrial development.

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IE data centers within our neighborhood.

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And as we have seen in.

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Spaceport and Santa Rosa data center developers try to sneak into communities.

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That's before many of the aspects can be examined.

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And before the public can voice their concerns.

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And that's why moratoriums are important.

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They put a pause on development.

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Until reasonable safeguards can be established.

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And it reassures people that no.

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Secret deals are being made.

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But since we do not have the city moratorium.

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My question is.

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How are you going to ensure?

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That the citizens of Socorro.

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Are immediately notified.

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When you are approached by a data center.

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Developer umm.

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We said earlier that we were going to wait for the county blue ribbon committee.

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To give out a recommendation.

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Well, yeah, but there's a difference there because.

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We're not asking for.

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YouTube make specific.

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Ordinances about data centers, we're saying.

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Just put a pause on data centers on.

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Industrial sized data centers and not.

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Necessarily small.

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Business owned data centers, but industrial data centers.

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So that.

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So that the Blue Ribbon committee can do their job.

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And come up with ordinances and then.

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And then the city would look at those and see if any were appropriate for the city to.

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I personally, administratively, I don't know what the council feels, but.

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I think that's putting the court before the horse without you knowing specifically what type of things that we're going to be

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against.

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And just do a general blanket moratorium.

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I'm just not in favor of that and.

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And I don't think I will take somebody's blueprint.

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Boilerplate moratorium and just slap it on a city or.

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Well, I would assume that.

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Although I did send you one, I would assume that you would look at it and send it to your lawyer and.

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Fix it up because I'm.

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I'm not a.

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I'm not a lawyer. I was a.

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I don't think a lawyer is the temperature amateur.

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Well, no, you've been a good proponent, I'm just saying that.

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And we don't do anything in the.

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In the dark here at the city when if there is somebody that's going to be telling us about.

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Data centers are asking for.

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Information on it will certainly make it public immediately. We don't sign NDA's. You know, we have the Voltex situation going on

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right now.

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That would have always had had sunshine on and.

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And we're going to work through that so.

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We're very we're very open about that.

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Moratoriums.

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Feel good maybe.

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And and solar arrays I just.

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I think it's too broad.

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In my opinion.

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That's too broad a.

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A statement to make as a city as a city, as far as.

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Data centers and solar razor concern until we see the specifics.

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That will come out of that blue ribbon committee and then we'll adopt that I.

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I personally don't think it's a.

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It's fair to the city and the people that live here.

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To make up, just make a statement saying we're not going to allow any data centers.

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You know that.

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To me, that's not.

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That's not fair. I think that.

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Well, OK, I think.

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I guess we have to agree to disagree on that of Mayor Vasquez, because I believe.

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That you can say that we will not.

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Endorse a.

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Hyperscale.

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Data center.

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One year.

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We learn more about.

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What sort of what size is?

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You know, that's a good point.

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That's something that I'm asking the Blue Ribbon committee to.

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To discover absolutely and how much however, however the city the county ordinance.

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Specifically says.

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This does not include.

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Any data center by an existing business within.

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You know.

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Of course, they don't have any existing businesses in the county, but that would want a Davis Center, although the Socorro does.

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I assume that tech has a data center. I assume that.

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First State Bank has a data center.

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I you know.

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But but those in that ordinance there specifically.

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Excluded from this.

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So, but anyway, like I said, I need to make one last attempt because I think it's, I would, I would encourage if the Council wants

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Put up a resolution.

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And wants to get one put together. That's fine with me.

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I am not.

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A.

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Resolution that just says.

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No data centers in our community.

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Well, no data Centers for.

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Six months.

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Until the until the blue ribbon committee can can do their work.

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You know, that's, that's what a moratorium is, That's what a pause is. It's just a temporary. It's not a it's not a ban. I will, I

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will call the newspaper and I will let you know personally if somebody comes knocking on the door here and says that we want to

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put a data center.

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If you know.

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Data center is the whole in my opinion.

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I'm not against data centers.

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But if they're going to use my water.

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They can't do that.

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And if they're going to use my electricity and raise our bills?

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They can't do that.

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So if they have other technology that they're going to develop.

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To do something behind the meter.

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And do something with.

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Water and use their use air conditioning.

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There there's new technology and cooling those chips.

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And so.

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I would. If somebody comes and has that kind of technology, then we'll discuss it out here in public.

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I just can't.

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I just can't as a city say, well, we're against data centers and if tech wants to get a grant.

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To develop a small data center.

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And we know how much water they're going to use.

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The city uses 1,600,000 gallons of water a day.

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That's how much we use. I have room for another.

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And Lloyd's out there in the waiting room, but I have another 500,000.

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That I can get.

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From our wells, we have three wells.

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And they're good producing wells.

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And the static level of those wells has not dropped or might.

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Being there.

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Which is a long time so.

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So, uh.

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But if they were reasonable.

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And they came to us and said we want to put in data center.

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We would have that discussion.

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I just if the county would did what they did, that's fine, but I.

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I just don't think it's fair.

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For businesses and.

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Because, you know, we're a small community that's.

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Does dwindling and we not we need to make sure that we're.

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Take advantage of everything that comes our way.

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That's I mean, and I'm above board about that opinion as you as I'm always AM.

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Point well taken and.

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And we are looking for the blue ribbon committee and I think they had their meeting finally.

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Last week or something like that. They're having another meeting tomorrow, so maybe hopefully the progression giving us a

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blueprint.

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OK, thank you. But I also hope that they understand how much.

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What kind of resources we actually have?

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Well, you know, in this community.

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Is to look and see. Talk to the.

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Right, right.

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They need, they need to put that all together, I think.

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Well, it works. Thank you.

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Yes, ma'am.

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Go ahead. No, you're the one with the T-shirt, so come on.

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Thank you, Council and Mayor Basker. My name is Janet Goldstein and I would just like to support what Mary Ross said.

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There's no reason.

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Not.

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To postpone.

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Any action? No reason.

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Not to have a moratorium until after.

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Blue Ribbon Committee.

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Has released its report.

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At least a year would be better.

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If you're wondering how.

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Toward a resolution.

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Look to the county.

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It's not worth the risk.

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To our environment.

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To let these.

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Develop.

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Run rampant.

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And extract our resources.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Anyone else?

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Anyone in favor of data centers?

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That's here. No, I just always ask.

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No, OK.

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I got, I got, I got. I got it.

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I got it.

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And I see the signs around town. I mean, that's.

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You know again.

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We we feel, I think we feel strong enough as.

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That we would not allow them to come in and.

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Usurp all our resources.

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But we're not going to just.

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I mean, if somebody comes and says I can, I can use 100,000 gallons of water a day.

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And I'm putting a data center in.

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And and there'll be a small data center.

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Then we would at least have that discussion in public.

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And I.

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You know, we would want to see some of those people to come.

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We need something, I don't think.

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Tech students would benefit from.

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Getting into that technology, although it's been.

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In the last month or two weeks.

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It slowed way down.

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With that guy from Open.

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Making those statements.

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Mr. Coxman, or I'm not sure what his name is, but but sure that has slowed way down.

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Everybody's ears are up.

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It's a big topic.

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And all of politics, no question about it.

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But it's it's only fair, I think.

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For people to.

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To be able to speak frankly and have a discussion about it.

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Instead of just.

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Just stopping all discussion.

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That's my only.

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Only problem with the mortgage.

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OK, anyone else that's not on the agenda?

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OK.

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We shall go on.

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We have.

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A quilt of valor.

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Presentation.

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Good evening and thanks for letting me do this.

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Presentation My name is Lee Graham.

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I live in Magdalena and I am a member of the Fiber Arts field of Socorro County.

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As well as a member of the cultivar.

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Foundation.

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Two organizations that I'm very proud to be a part of.

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I will briefly tell you about each one.

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The Fiber Arts Guild of Socorro County was officially established in 2002.

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The Guild provides a forum to encourage.

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Teach and share the various fiber arts for themselves and the community at large.

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We currently have 60 members who are skilled in sewing.

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Quilting Netting.

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Crocheting and weaving.

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Along with other fiber crafts.

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Each year we donate cloaks to Hospice for their patients.

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Quilts and blankets to children through Casa.

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Blankets to our first responders.

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And quilts to various organizations for their fundraising efforts.

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Since 2002, the Guild has distributed well over 1000 quilts and blankets.

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Through its community outreach program.

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The clothes of Fowler Foundation.

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Began in 2003 with a dream.

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Literally a dream.

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Founder Catherine Roberts, Son Nat.

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Was deployed in Iraq.

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In her dream, she saw a young man sitting on the side of his bed in the middle of the night.

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Hunched over in utter despair.

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Then, as if viewing a movie, she saw him in the next scene.

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Well, with a look of hope and well-being.

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The quilt had made this dramatic change.

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The message of her dream was.

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Quilts equal healing.

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The model appeared simple.

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Have a volunteer team who would donate their time and materials to make a quilt.

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One or more quilters would piece the top and the others would quilt it.

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She saw the name of this special quilt. It was a quilt of our.

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The mission of the foundation is to cover service members and veterans with comforting and healing close to valid.

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Often when these quilts are constructed, they are sewn and quilted.

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With prayers for our servicemen, women and veterans.

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Since 2003.

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There have been over 454,000.

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Quotes of our distributed nationwide.

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I've left some groceries on the table if anyone would like more information.

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This evening.

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We have the honor of recognizing one of our own, City Councilman Peter Romero.

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Peter proudly served our country in the United States Marine Corps from 1971 to 77.

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He began his career at Camp Pendleton.

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Before being transferred to Okinawa.

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He later returned to the United States, where he oversaw supply administration and warehousing.

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Peter then entered the Marine Security Guard program.

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Which trains elite U.S. Marines to protect American embassies, Consulates.

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And vital diplomatic personnel.

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Around the world.

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His service took him to many places across the globe.

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Including the Middle East.

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Beirut Arab.

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New Delhi.

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Portugal, Cyprus, Panama and Argentina.

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While serving in Argentina, Peter became seriously ill.

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And the military determined that medical retirement was necessary.

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This was a difficult and disappointing time for Peter.

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As he had hoped to make a lifelong career in the Marine Corps.

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After leaving the service, Peter returned to Socorro.

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To determine what the next chapter of his life would hold.

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She went to Albuquerque.

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Where he worked as a manager of several movie theaters.

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He also went to UNM.

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Worked in finance and the financial aid office.

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Peter later returned to Socorro to help care for his aging parents.

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He has remained an active and valued member.

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Of our community ever since.

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Taking advantage of countless opportunities to volunteer.

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Serve others.

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And become involved in local politics.

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Peter's commitment to service did not end when he left the Marine Corps.

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He simply found new ways to serve.

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First his country and then his community.

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Tonight, we are very proud to honor Peter Romero for his dedicated service to our country.

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And for the many ways he has continued to serve and strengthen our community.

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Peter, thank you for your service, your dedication.

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And your commitment to Socorro?

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We are proud to call you one of you.

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One of our own.

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As we wrap you in this quilt today.

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Please accept it as a hug.

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From a grateful nation.

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Where to go?

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This was made by all the members.

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You think we can get a picture of all of them?

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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We got it.

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Need a picture?

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Fantastic. Wow, that's nice.

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Wow.

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Thank you.

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Can you give us your?

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Can can you give us your copy?

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So we can put it in the minutes.

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Of what you just said about Peter.

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We're going to put that in our.

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Put that in a minute.

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Thank you for thank you so much for doing this.

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Sure enough, and it's not only through the.

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The military we all serve.

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Put it on, Peter.

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Can.

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You've been all over the world. I didn't realize how.

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We've been in different places, even New Delhi.

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We have a finally after maybe two years.

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Maybe three years.

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We've got a bid award for the Cuba Rd. St. and drainage improvement problem.

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Project, Mr. Mayor. Council, there's a letter.

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In your packet from our procurement officer, Polo Panetta.

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The bids were opened on September 4th.

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We received 5.

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And after review by Dennis Engineering and Mr. Panetta.

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They're recommending GM Emotion for 747,000 seven $4.58.

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About Mr. Romero.

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Move to approve the award to GM emulsion.

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2nd.

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And so that.

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We'll make Cuba Rd. come all the way up to the Interstate bridge.

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And finally finished our project which has been a.

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Long, long time coming for them.

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And hopefully fix some of the drainage issues in that area.

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Yeah, and.

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Thank God it came.

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Or a bunch of others because we were holding our.

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I mean, everything's gone up sky high.

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All in favor.

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Aye.

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All right, looks like we've got a.

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Plethora of specially used.

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And the first one.

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Christy, you want to tell us about the economy again?

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Good evening Mayor and Council the 1st.

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Special use permit that is on.

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The agenda is.

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The economy in at 400 California St. to allow a food truck.

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To use their property.

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Not all the time, but just.

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Yeah, periodically.

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Mr. Patel is the owner of the economy, and he came to planning and zoning.

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He runs.

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A motel both here and in Albuquerque. So he's not here today, but I told him I would.

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Let you guys know it was voted to approve.

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That he allowed transient vendors.

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In that location.

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By the Planning and Zoning Commission.

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And there's a restaurant there, too. Yeah, it was where the Hong Kong restaurant used to be.

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Delicious.

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I miss it.

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So that's an action item.

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Yes, make a motion to approve second.

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Moved and seconded.

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Answer aye.

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Yeah, then we have Tammy.

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OK, the second special use permit is for 5/9 design.

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Are you guys here for a minute? Are you Amanda?

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Hi, Amanda. Oh, Amanda and Rex. OK, I've talked to them all on the phone.

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So.

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They Amanda attended a.

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A PNC meeting. She flew into Albuquerque and her flight was delayed and she got here at 5:30. She got here.

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To Albuquerque at 5:30. So we did a telephonically because she traveled from.

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Indiana and flights got delayed in.

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In Texas, but.

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So what they want to do is have an unmanned.

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Fiber optic building on.

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The corner of Spring Street and Lita Ortega.

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It's it's an unmanned fiber optic building, 864 square feet.

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It's to allow.

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Pre manufactured fiber optic.

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With a backup generator and a security fence.

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You want to come up and.

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OK.

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Good evening, Board.

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Rex Atkinson with Five Nine Design Group.

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And what we are asking at this location and what 59 does is we're a group of architects and engineers and we do the pre

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manufactured fiber optic utility buildings for a few of the different fiber optic utility companies that operate throughout the

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country. And what these particular fiber optic buildings do is they have.

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Laser equipment that regenerates the light signal.

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That sends it back. Along the way, there's fiber optic lines running within.

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The Interstate right of way and what happens is as demand grows on.

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That fiber optic network, it could slow down and it needs to be regenerated. So think of this as kind of your your pump station

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for water. You have to have a pump station to keep your water pressure up.

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This is a regeneration building that regenerates the the light.

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And with lasers and sends it on along its way.

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And so at this location.

519
00:26:55,740 --> 00:26:57,500
As was said, we have.

520
00:26:58,860 --> 00:27:01,340
86 foot by 110 foot.

521
00:27:02,140 --> 00:27:10,940
Chain link security fence that comes into approximately 9500 square foot fence with a 800 square foot building inside of it.

522
00:27:11,460 --> 00:27:12,660
The building itself.

523
00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:15,300
Is 24 by 36 feet.

524
00:27:15,980 --> 00:27:17,660
Basically, that's 2.

525
00:27:17,780 --> 00:27:22,860
Pieces that come on a truck that then gets welded together and then houses all of that laser.

526
00:27:23,380 --> 00:27:32,980
Equipment and it is backed up by a 500 kW diesel generator. Power ever goes out. These buildings themselves are 600 amp.

527
00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:39,540
Building so kind of your your typical electrical load and they're they're unmanned. So that means no.

528
00:27:40,620 --> 00:27:44,080
People, which means no water or anything like that. The buildings themselves are just cooled by through wall air conditioning

529
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,540
units to to keep.

530
00:27:47,620 --> 00:27:55,100
The laser equipment, cool. So all these sort of buildings are around just to support the fiber optic utility grid.

531
00:27:55,220 --> 00:27:56,670
That that runs along.

532
00:27:57,380 --> 00:27:58,820
Adjacent to this property.

533
00:28:00,820 --> 00:28:02,100
What's the zoning there?

534
00:28:02,620 --> 00:28:03,740
R4.

535
00:28:06,020 --> 00:28:09,260
So the the zoning in that area is R4.

536
00:28:09,500 --> 00:28:13,340
I will say that the Planning Zoning Commission did.

537
00:28:13,540 --> 00:28:15,100
At the last meeting.

538
00:28:15,580 --> 00:28:17,700
Make a decision to.

539
00:28:18,180 --> 00:28:22,020
Say no to this because it is a residential zone.

540
00:28:22,460 --> 00:28:24,140
And because.

541
00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:26,380
I just lost my train of thought, I'm sorry.

542
00:28:27,580 --> 00:28:32,180
They did say that they did not want to allow it because it was an R4 zone.

543
00:28:32,340 --> 00:28:37,510
And and also they were concerned because.

544
00:28:38,020 --> 00:28:40,020
It was our understanding that.

545
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:41,180
This was.

546
00:28:41,260 --> 00:28:42,820
You. You are.

547
00:28:42,940 --> 00:28:43,660
59.

548
00:28:43,900 --> 00:28:45,060
Which is the design.

549
00:28:45,500 --> 00:28:47,830
And then it goes to Vero which is the.

550
00:28:47,980 --> 00:28:50,500
Installation of the fiber optics.

551
00:28:51,180 --> 00:28:56,190
And then to MMI and then ultimately meta. So it wasn't a local.

552
00:28:57,540 --> 00:28:59,310
It wasn't something that would be.

553
00:28:59,460 --> 00:29:01,340
Used or benefit?

554
00:29:01,540 --> 00:29:03,940
The schools or tech or anybody local?

555
00:29:04,980 --> 00:29:06,660
I'm not those properties.

556
00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:08,300
I believe it.

557
00:29:08,380 --> 00:29:09,620
Have you guys purchased it?

558
00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:12,020
The Bureau purchased it.

559
00:29:13,740 --> 00:29:18,100
They were in the process. I believe that it belonged to the Aguilars.

560
00:29:18,740 --> 00:29:19,940
And so.

561
00:29:20,740 --> 00:29:23,660
That's the recommendation of hunting and zoning.

562
00:29:24,340 --> 00:29:26,060
But it, like I said, it was just.

563
00:29:26,220 --> 00:29:29,260
Merely because it is R4, it's a residential.

564
00:29:29,380 --> 00:29:31,460
Were there any people from the area?

565
00:29:31,820 --> 00:29:35,460
One citizen did come in and he just had questions about.

566
00:29:35,540 --> 00:29:40,860
The light pollution and the generators in the decibels.

567
00:29:41,540 --> 00:29:43,220
But he seemed to be pretty.

568
00:29:43,420 --> 00:29:44,660
Satisfied with the.

569
00:29:45,620 --> 00:29:46,660
Information.

570
00:29:47,180 --> 00:29:49,260
That was sent over with the specs of.

571
00:29:51,820 --> 00:29:53,100
And I think he did.

572
00:29:53,340 --> 00:29:55,220
They did request that it be.

573
00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:57,340
More of a solid wall than.

574
00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:00,260
Chain link. So I think that was an option that.

575
00:30:00,980 --> 00:30:01,740
Mr. Saloni.

576
00:30:03,220 --> 00:30:05,260
Rex was this.

577
00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:09,430
This facility initially to be.

578
00:30:09,540 --> 00:30:10,940
Built here on the Plaza.

579
00:30:12,150 --> 00:30:14,270
Through through 95.

580
00:30:14,780 --> 00:30:15,100
No.

581
00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:19,620
No. OK, because I received, so I received something about.

582
00:30:20,540 --> 00:30:23,260
Doing exactly this on the Plaza here.

583
00:30:25,060 --> 00:30:29,960
No, I none of my site procurement people would hopefully do anything like that because we, we do these buildings all over the

584
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,860
place and we try to put them in areas where.

585
00:30:34,980 --> 00:30:43,365
They're not kind of front and center, at least off the main drag. The fiber is running close to there, but that doesn't seem like

586
00:30:43,365 --> 00:30:51,750
an ideal location for an equipment utility type building if the board wanted. I did have a few examples of what a typical.

587
00:30:52,140 --> 00:31:00,230
This is kind of what a typical facility looks like and, and per per what the board was saying with the the zoning board.

588
00:31:00,340 --> 00:31:06,793
That's kind of our our typical prototypical chain link fence security with the the 868 square foot building. We've done these all

589
00:31:06,793 --> 00:31:13,246
over the place and and when it does come to a little bit more of a high visibility area, we have screened it in, in different ways

590
00:31:13,246 --> 00:31:19,699
be it.

591
00:31:20,740 --> 00:31:21,300
Kind of a.

592
00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:25,380
A Trek style fence.

593
00:31:31,410 --> 00:31:33,190
Are there any of excuse me?

594
00:31:33,980 --> 00:31:37,540
Style are there.

595
00:31:39,020 --> 00:31:43,540
Fiscal benefits to the owners of the property like continuously.

596
00:31:44,580 --> 00:31:53,380
Well, the owner of the property will now be a the utility company there and they have put in an offer to buy the price.

597
00:31:55,180 --> 00:31:56,940
Question is, is it?

598
00:31:57,940 --> 00:31:59,100
The property specifically.

599
00:31:59,340 --> 00:32:00,700
The geographic location.

600
00:32:01,860 --> 00:32:05,420
For what you do, is it specific to that area? It needs to be there is that.

601
00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:09,660
It needs to be in a range of that zone, so whenever we're.

602
00:32:09,780 --> 00:32:11,940
Usually what they say is there's a one.

603
00:32:12,020 --> 00:32:17,260
Miami depending on it, but they usually look at a one mile radius of where the regeneration building needs to go and we try to

604
00:32:17,260 --> 00:32:22,500
find an area that's not.

605
00:32:22,620 --> 00:32:29,260
Right front and center to to kind of tuck in there. And so the hope was that that this might be there now.

606
00:32:29,580 --> 00:32:31,500
Being that it is residential.

607
00:32:31,620 --> 00:32:35,100
Maybe should have started with the more aesthetically pleasing.

608
00:32:35,500 --> 00:32:38,060
Prototype that we do have because we have a few.

609
00:32:38,340 --> 00:32:40,580
That's kind of what I bring to the table as.

610
00:32:40,900 --> 00:32:48,400
As a New Mexico architect is, you know, I can take the the concrete building that comes from the factory and kind of decorate it

611
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:55,900
to look more residential style. So we have one in kind of the White Mountains of Socorro. Sorry, we have one in the White

612
00:32:55,900 --> 00:33:03,400
Mountains of Arizona that we put that the Gable roof on it. So we can put, you know, so it's not a flat roof that we typically do.

613
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:10,900
And then kind of depending on the aesthetic whether we do, you know, a fully solid fence.

614
00:33:11,340 --> 00:33:17,340
Of, you know, composite material tricks or whether we do a CMU wall that we're doing up in Oregon.

615
00:33:18,260 --> 00:33:19,340
Ultimately, umm, uh.

616
00:33:21,420 --> 00:33:28,220
Arizona decided that they wanted a wrought iron style fence in front of it because it's all up to the board and what they see.

617
00:33:28,620 --> 00:33:30,980
They were concerned on their town about.

618
00:33:32,140 --> 00:33:34,460
Unhoused people, possibly.

619
00:33:34,820 --> 00:33:38,160
Living behind the CMU wall so they wanted something that you could see behind but still was nicer than a than a chain link fence

620
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,500
so.

621
00:33:42,060 --> 00:33:44,820
And other question since it's zoned.

622
00:33:45,420 --> 00:33:46,900
Was there? Did you guys look at it?

623
00:33:47,020 --> 00:33:47,620
Any other?

624
00:33:47,780 --> 00:33:50,860
Vacant property or property that was for sale that would have been zoned.

625
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:55,500
So we didn't have to use the special use permit that you could have purchased to do this without special.

626
00:33:55,860 --> 00:33:59,400
I know you've thought of that a little bit. I I did talk to the site, the German guy, it was my understanding that he didn't see

627
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,940
any.

628
00:34:04,140 --> 00:34:05,220
Looked at for options. We got that.

629
00:34:05,660 --> 00:34:08,300
Gotcha. Nobody was interested in in selling.

630
00:34:08,860 --> 00:34:10,180
Matter where and.

631
00:34:16,220 --> 00:34:20,140
As a utility building it, it needed a special use in all zones.

632
00:34:20,540 --> 00:34:24,020
Is what we If you put it up at the industrial park, there wouldn't be a problem.

633
00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:28,540
If you put it up at the industrial park, there would not have been a problem.

634
00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:30,260
That wasn't what was told.

635
00:34:30,780 --> 00:34:33,580
Whoever. Well, I didn't. You didn't come to administration.

636
00:34:33,820 --> 00:34:35,100
I've never seen you guys.

637
00:34:35,540 --> 00:34:36,980
I've never seen you guys before.

638
00:34:38,060 --> 00:34:40,260
I don't believe it was neither commercial.

639
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,720
That we didn't get anybody. No, no. But I'm just saying that.

640
00:34:45,300 --> 00:34:46,300
What do you mean camera?

641
00:34:47,340 --> 00:34:51,580
I don't think especially permanent wouldn't be needed if it wasn't a commercial zone.

642
00:34:52,220 --> 00:34:54,220
Right what? I'm just saying that the.

643
00:34:54,540 --> 00:34:55,900
We have Western up there.

644
00:34:56,420 --> 00:34:57,660
At the industrial park.

645
00:34:58,510 --> 00:34:59,910
And I'm not sure why.

646
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,950
That was my question of the proximity so and there's.

647
00:35:05,180 --> 00:35:07,900
There's lines going up and down that Hwy. 60.

648
00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:10,300
Then why you didn't?

649
00:35:10,580 --> 00:35:11,980
Think about the industrial part.

650
00:35:13,050 --> 00:35:14,490
It is a good question.

651
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:20,980
I do the design work. My site procurement guy. I don't know if he wasn't well. Time to stop by our office sometime.

652
00:35:21,420 --> 00:35:26,020
But you enjoy that. You would enjoy meeting you. It's obvious that planning and zoning is.

653
00:35:26,580 --> 00:35:27,780
I mean, they're not, you know?

654
00:35:27,900 --> 00:35:31,380
We're going to be sending something back to planning and zoning, by the way.

655
00:35:32,860 --> 00:35:34,460
They're not happy with it, evidently.

656
00:35:34,540 --> 00:35:35,460
What was it float?

657
00:35:36,740 --> 00:35:42,100
Planning zoning voted no for this simply because it is a residential.

658
00:35:43,470 --> 00:35:44,310
He's unanimous.

659
00:35:45,980 --> 00:35:47,980
You know, I mean this residential.

660
00:35:49,020 --> 00:35:52,460
And the person who's selling the property will get some benefit.

661
00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:53,780
But I think.

662
00:35:54,060 --> 00:35:55,140
It's important that.

663
00:35:55,940 --> 00:35:59,060
You know, to have a writer and there's a bunch of empty land there.

664
00:35:59,540 --> 00:36:00,980
That you could probably.

665
00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:02,260
May somebody may develop.

666
00:36:03,140 --> 00:36:04,500
In a residential.

667
00:36:04,660 --> 00:36:05,300
So, uh.

668
00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:10,020
I would recommend you come and talk to us and we can show you some place. I don't know who you guys talk to.

669
00:36:10,740 --> 00:36:13,020
Because, Donald, did they talk to you about any?

670
00:36:13,220 --> 00:36:13,820
No, Sir.

671
00:36:18,780 --> 00:36:20,140
Well, we're not the county.

672
00:36:20,780 --> 00:36:21,700
Yeah, that's the.

673
00:36:28,660 --> 00:36:30,380
Well, I'll be happy to give you my card.

674
00:36:32,580 --> 00:36:35,260
So it looks like, well, there's an action item.

675
00:36:35,900 --> 00:36:36,940
It is. It is.

676
00:36:38,340 --> 00:36:39,860
Comments we made.

677
00:36:43,590 --> 00:36:45,310
Something that needs to be tabled.

678
00:36:45,420 --> 00:36:48,780
And sure, it comes back on. I think just take the recommendation of the PM.

679
00:36:49,300 --> 00:36:50,980
Oh, OK, that's my I mean.

680
00:36:51,260 --> 00:36:52,340
I don't vote.

681
00:36:53,780 --> 00:36:56,220
You've got five people, so I don't break any size here.

682
00:36:57,260 --> 00:37:00,340
Just the other question to emerge, just if you can answer this.

683
00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:01,980
If it does get voted down today.

684
00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:03,620
And they did want to come back.

685
00:37:03,860 --> 00:37:10,660
And they do find somewhere where it's adequate and they can't put it well. I recommend to come and talk to administration.

686
00:37:10,820 --> 00:37:13,620
It would get voted down just at this location they'd be able to.

687
00:37:13,860 --> 00:37:17,140
Put in and then go back to tell them not to build a building.

688
00:37:17,580 --> 00:37:20,580
Like I said, we have Western up third, Western telephone is up there.

689
00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:24,540
At the industrial park they have an installation with a microwave tower and a.

690
00:37:24,980 --> 00:37:26,100
Whole 10 yards.

691
00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:28,740
Yeah.

692
00:37:30,060 --> 00:37:30,540
But.

693
00:37:32,660 --> 00:37:32,940
But uh.

694
00:37:33,380 --> 00:37:34,380
But that.

695
00:37:34,540 --> 00:37:38,740
I mean, to me that's the obvious place and you do have fiber going up and down that area.

696
00:37:39,420 --> 00:37:41,420
Already And I'm not sure exactly where the.

697
00:37:41,580 --> 00:37:43,580
How you guys picked that area because?

698
00:37:43,940 --> 00:37:46,980
You know that that road and and how you're getting there.

699
00:37:47,420 --> 00:37:48,900
As right off of 60.

700
00:37:49,580 --> 00:37:51,340
I'm not sure how to pick that spot.

701
00:37:51,540 --> 00:37:55,380
Amanda, you had mentioned that you guys usually follow the railroad.

702
00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:56,300
Right away, yeah.

703
00:37:57,980 --> 00:38:00,060
If I were to run either in the railroad or a.

704
00:38:00,780 --> 00:38:01,660
Oh, OK.

705
00:38:01,940 --> 00:38:03,500
Yeah, there's no there.

706
00:38:06,020 --> 00:38:09,780
Yeah, yeah. Is it Weston? I'm not sure which company you're dealing with, but.

707
00:38:10,900 --> 00:38:14,660
But anyway, we're not doing. We don't want to do your work. We're just telling you that.

708
00:38:14,900 --> 00:38:16,340
Who can help you find a spot?

709
00:38:16,780 --> 00:38:19,500
That you wouldn't have to be going into a residential area.

710
00:38:20,780 --> 00:38:24,420
And then you can tell us what your criteria is for.

711
00:38:24,620 --> 00:38:25,580
Where you want to put it.

712
00:38:26,540 --> 00:38:28,540
And I'm sure that may be restricted, but.

713
00:38:29,180 --> 00:38:32,820
I don't know that that place is not to me any better than the industrial part.

714
00:38:33,220 --> 00:38:34,380
Well, you're putting it now.

715
00:38:35,460 --> 00:38:38,180
Hello. Yeah, so.

716
00:38:39,860 --> 00:38:45,500
I'll make a motion that we follow the PNC Commission's recommendations to not.

717
00:38:47,140 --> 00:38:49,100
Approve a special use permit for.

718
00:38:49,180 --> 00:38:50,300
For this purpose.

719
00:38:50,420 --> 00:38:52,940
2nd so moved and seconded discussion.

720
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,630
So you're welcome. We'll give you a contact.

721
00:38:55,820 --> 00:38:57,260
Information. They're welcome.

722
00:38:57,740 --> 00:38:59,380
Come and talk to us about it.

723
00:38:59,660 --> 00:39:01,500
And if you can, maybe just e-mail your.

724
00:39:03,660 --> 00:39:04,780
Site needs.

725
00:39:05,580 --> 00:39:07,660
Then we can maybe tell you what's close to a.

726
00:39:07,780 --> 00:39:08,500
Commercial area.

727
00:39:08,660 --> 00:39:09,820
I will say that.

728
00:39:10,220 --> 00:39:13,060
Was presented pretty nicely. He did a good job of.

729
00:39:13,260 --> 00:39:15,540
Like putting everything together, we see a lot of this.

730
00:39:15,620 --> 00:39:17,340
It comes through an ISM which is good so.

731
00:39:18,380 --> 00:39:22,020
Yeah, yeah, I guess it's good. Hopefully we can find you a spot and you guys will.

732
00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:24,540
Find a spot that won't require us to.

733
00:39:25,220 --> 00:39:26,460
Just put it there.

734
00:39:26,820 --> 00:39:27,940
That went on this one.

735
00:39:28,020 --> 00:39:31,100
My my real estate person might have gotten.

736
00:39:31,740 --> 00:39:34,500
Stroking out on this one so I don't even understand but.

737
00:39:34,740 --> 00:39:38,860
Hopefully an appointment in the right direction. Yeah, I'll put my design.

738
00:39:38,980 --> 00:39:42,500
Expertise at that. I'm sure you can put that on any.

739
00:39:42,620 --> 00:39:43,780
Piece of dirt.

740
00:39:43,940 --> 00:39:46,140
He all in favor, aye?

741
00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:50,260
Opposed. So we're again, we're not talking about not.

742
00:39:50,500 --> 00:39:53,380
Wanting you to come, it's just a matter. I think the spot is not.

743
00:39:53,940 --> 00:39:55,020
Gonna be acceptable.

744
00:39:55,890 --> 00:39:57,310
All right, here we go.

745
00:39:58,220 --> 00:39:59,660
So now we have.

746
00:39:59,980 --> 00:40:01,340
Pirate born horse.

747
00:40:02,380 --> 00:40:05,340
R&D, consulting and robotics.

748
00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:06,980
Just to preface.

749
00:40:07,340 --> 00:40:08,580
We send it to our lawyer.

750
00:40:09,940 --> 00:40:13,580
A lawyer wasn't very happy with how Mr. Bornhorse had presented everything.

751
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:15,710
He wanted us.

752
00:40:15,980 --> 00:40:19,820
To let him know, and we sent him the copy of the lawyer's letter.

753
00:40:20,340 --> 00:40:23,980
And that we're recommending that he recommends to go back to PNZ.

754
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:28,580
And answer all the questions that have been asked during these meetings.

755
00:40:29,870 --> 00:40:32,990
So I'm asking the Council.

756
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,520
For an action item of.

757
00:40:35,900 --> 00:40:38,340
Sending us back to PNZ.

758
00:40:39,420 --> 00:40:41,100
Second, OK.

759
00:40:46,300 --> 00:40:52,140
And I want to add myself. I am certainly a little more.

760
00:40:52,570 --> 00:40:54,850
Not suspicious about Mr. Barnhart's because.

761
00:40:55,250 --> 00:40:58,730
Now that I look at how the person who came and built that building.

762
00:40:59,010 --> 00:41:01,250
And what they wrote on the building permit.

763
00:41:01,490 --> 00:41:02,930
But they gave Christy.

764
00:41:04,050 --> 00:41:04,930
It was kind of a.

765
00:41:05,850 --> 00:41:07,370
I said warehouse.

766
00:41:08,410 --> 00:41:08,650
Yeah, so.

767
00:41:10,050 --> 00:41:13,370
So it wasn't, it wasn't a lot of, it wasn't a lot of.

768
00:41:15,890 --> 00:41:16,890
They want my card.

769
00:41:17,090 --> 00:41:18,810
I gave him.

770
00:41:20,770 --> 00:41:23,290
So we're running out of business here. That's what we're doing.

771
00:41:23,570 --> 00:41:24,170
But anyway.

772
00:41:25,460 --> 00:41:28,140
Yes, ma'am. Yeah. And you're welcome. We haven't taken about.

773
00:41:28,730 --> 00:41:31,290
Kamana but but I think.

774
00:41:31,370 --> 00:41:33,890
There were some things that were not, not really.

775
00:41:34,330 --> 00:41:36,170
Revealed to us that I felt.

776
00:41:36,850 --> 00:41:37,650
Should have been.

777
00:41:41,890 --> 00:41:42,490
For the.

778
00:41:46,010 --> 00:41:48,890
I I discovered this after.

779
00:41:50,650 --> 00:41:51,410
Yeah, go ahead.

780
00:41:52,450 --> 00:41:54,370
Miss Miller, I would.

781
00:41:55,930 --> 00:41:58,730
Really rather have you?

782
00:41:59,250 --> 00:42:01,370
Vote no against this.

783
00:42:01,810 --> 00:42:04,170
Because this is also residential.

784
00:42:04,450 --> 00:42:05,490
Rural. Rural.

785
00:42:05,570 --> 00:42:06,850
Residential.

786
00:42:07,010 --> 00:42:09,690
Which is more restrictive than just.

787
00:42:10,010 --> 00:42:11,330
Residential 4.

788
00:42:12,660 --> 00:42:17,260
But right now, I'm just going to say if you know the story.

789
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,920
Of David and Goliath.

790
00:42:22,290 --> 00:42:24,580
That's how I feel right now.

791
00:42:25,290 --> 00:42:27,250
With Goliath.

792
00:42:27,930 --> 00:42:31,890
As the big person from somewhere else.

793
00:42:32,370 --> 00:42:34,250
Coming here with money.

794
00:42:34,570 --> 00:42:35,850
Big ideas. Big.

795
00:42:35,930 --> 00:42:38,970
Plans and I'm more like David the.

796
00:42:39,090 --> 00:42:41,010
Person nobody knows.

797
00:42:41,210 --> 00:42:43,250
But I'm trying to protect.

798
00:42:43,610 --> 00:42:44,570
My home.

799
00:42:44,770 --> 00:42:47,570
And my surroundings.

800
00:42:48,170 --> 00:42:50,770
I also do not trust this person.

801
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,440
The metal building up there is as we just stated.

802
00:43:01,810 --> 00:43:03,970
A residential garage.

803
00:43:04,210 --> 00:43:05,770
It is not commercial.

804
00:43:06,370 --> 00:43:07,970
He didn't get a permit.

805
00:43:08,370 --> 00:43:10,290
For commercial electricity.

806
00:43:10,690 --> 00:43:13,930
Nor plumbing, nor a commercial.

807
00:43:14,090 --> 00:43:14,930
Building.

808
00:43:15,940 --> 00:43:17,220
It shouldn't.

809
00:43:17,410 --> 00:43:18,290
Be there.

810
00:43:18,770 --> 00:43:20,810
And then there were all of these.

811
00:43:22,890 --> 00:43:27,810
Other stories of what he was going to do was different depending on who he talked.

812
00:43:27,890 --> 00:43:30,010
To and.

813
00:43:31,610 --> 00:43:32,570
In my view.

814
00:43:33,450 --> 00:43:35,450
They tried to push this.

815
00:43:35,570 --> 00:43:36,250
Through.

816
00:43:36,370 --> 00:43:38,490
Without anybody noticing.

817
00:43:38,930 --> 00:43:41,410
Because of the way it was done.

818
00:43:42,290 --> 00:43:44,010
And because of the type of.

819
00:43:44,090 --> 00:43:47,250
Business, which is sometimes.

820
00:43:47,370 --> 00:43:48,490
Not safe.

821
00:43:49,620 --> 00:43:50,900
Could be a fire.

822
00:43:51,530 --> 00:43:54,450
Emergency could be an explosion.

823
00:43:55,010 --> 00:44:00,530
I cannot trust this person to follow any of the rules and regulations.

824
00:44:00,770 --> 00:44:04,370
That he said that he would in other meetings.

825
00:44:04,610 --> 00:44:07,130
Like the air quality, the.

826
00:44:07,250 --> 00:44:10,900
The rules that the government has for this type of.

827
00:44:11,050 --> 00:44:11,850
Business, uh.

828
00:44:12,210 --> 00:44:14,130
How can we trust him?

829
00:44:14,690 --> 00:44:19,140
To follow those rules since he hasn't even followed ours.

830
00:44:19,850 --> 00:44:20,850
None of them.

831
00:44:21,250 --> 00:44:23,090
It's just like trying to.

832
00:44:23,370 --> 00:44:25,130
Get in the back door.

833
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:31,820
Thinking that we're just rural bumpkins or something and they can just do whatever they want.

834
00:44:32,290 --> 00:44:34,170
And this is not.

835
00:44:34,490 --> 00:44:35,570
That here.

836
00:44:35,770 --> 00:44:37,050
We have people.

837
00:44:37,890 --> 00:44:40,810
That are more than bumpkins that live here.

838
00:44:40,890 --> 00:44:41,490
So, umm.

839
00:44:47,250 --> 00:44:50,570
I'll just add that we have to go through a due process.

840
00:44:50,890 --> 00:44:54,250
And we have a, you know, way of going through a due process.

841
00:44:54,610 --> 00:44:58,570
Which is what our lawyer said we have to do. It may very well be turned down again.

842
00:44:58,810 --> 00:45:02,690
At PNC, but at least he got his due process and he doesn't have any.

843
00:45:03,090 --> 00:45:06,290
Right to litigate against us that we didn't give him a chance to.

844
00:45:06,650 --> 00:45:08,290
Make his case that that's.

845
00:45:08,370 --> 00:45:09,890
That's what this is all about.

846
00:45:11,810 --> 00:45:12,770
Rather than just.

847
00:45:13,130 --> 00:45:14,290
Out of hand right now.

848
00:45:14,490 --> 00:45:15,610
Not, you know.

849
00:45:16,370 --> 00:45:19,050
O King has a special use permit.

850
00:45:19,130 --> 00:45:21,010
But then he's gonna go back.

851
00:45:21,170 --> 00:45:22,890
To planning and zoning.

852
00:45:23,370 --> 00:45:25,970
And it starts all over again.

853
00:45:26,090 --> 00:45:31,890
Yes, it's a never ending story of coming to these meetings and saying please don't.

854
00:45:31,970 --> 00:45:34,770
Do this. I don't know. That's not. That's not.

855
00:45:34,850 --> 00:45:35,530
Gonna happen, but.

856
00:45:35,930 --> 00:45:38,250
We just wanted to make sure that we're not.

857
00:45:38,970 --> 00:45:41,370
Going to have some sort of a liability.

858
00:45:41,490 --> 00:45:45,130
That he comes back to us and said we didn't follow due process for him.

859
00:45:46,250 --> 00:45:49,450
I don't think that's possible since he didn't follow.

860
00:45:49,530 --> 00:45:50,770
The due process it.

861
00:45:51,050 --> 00:45:53,930
Well, I'm just going to go into what my lawyer says.

862
00:45:54,930 --> 00:45:56,050
That's kind of where we're at.

863
00:45:56,290 --> 00:46:00,570
Yeah, I realized that the lawyer speaking for you and that was correct.

864
00:46:01,310 --> 00:46:03,700
But I think you could vote it down.

865
00:46:06,420 --> 00:46:08,500
Mr. Partridge. Mr. Mayor.

866
00:46:08,890 --> 00:46:09,730
Just a.

867
00:46:09,930 --> 00:46:11,650
Just a bit of a rebuttal I spoke.

868
00:46:11,810 --> 00:46:14,210
For quite a while with you guys at the end of the last meeting.

869
00:46:16,930 --> 00:46:19,330
I would agree with what the mayor said just in the sense that.

870
00:46:20,410 --> 00:46:23,100
I think that it would make a case for Mr.

871
00:46:24,650 --> 00:46:28,410
At our last meeting we said we'd send it to our lawyer and ask for recommendations.

872
00:46:28,690 --> 00:46:31,410
It could be wiser with the following orders recommendations.

873
00:46:31,850 --> 00:46:33,330
Doesn't necessarily mean that.

874
00:46:33,690 --> 00:46:36,210
It's going to change anybody's position and how they stand.

875
00:46:36,570 --> 00:46:37,090
But.

876
00:46:39,410 --> 00:46:40,250
Speak for myself.

877
00:46:40,650 --> 00:46:43,890
I mean, it's gonna take a lot for me to change my position on where I stand with it, but.

878
00:46:44,730 --> 00:46:46,690
I do think that is correct. I think you should.

879
00:46:47,410 --> 00:46:48,930
Have a due process and.

880
00:46:50,430 --> 00:46:53,460
If the lawyers asked us to do this, I think it would be wise of us to fall, That's all.

881
00:46:53,930 --> 00:46:54,850
But I don't think.

882
00:46:56,050 --> 00:46:58,170
It's going to take a lot to spare my position on it.

883
00:46:59,330 --> 00:47:01,170
I don't know if that carries any weight, but.

884
00:47:01,250 --> 00:47:02,730
That's why it certainly does.

885
00:47:02,810 --> 00:47:03,530
Thank you.

886
00:47:05,850 --> 00:47:06,450
Well.

887
00:47:07,570 --> 00:47:10,570
Christie, will we all be notified? Yes.

888
00:47:11,770 --> 00:47:13,050
I will mail.

889
00:47:14,270 --> 00:47:16,310
Like the beginning, like you said, I will.

890
00:47:16,610 --> 00:47:18,330
Send everything out, he does.

891
00:47:18,930 --> 00:47:21,410
Have a few things that he has to provide.

892
00:47:21,890 --> 00:47:23,330
For us to.

893
00:47:24,770 --> 00:47:31,530
Hear us along with this application and one of the questions he had and maybe we could voice here he might be able to answer.

894
00:47:31,810 --> 00:47:35,290
He said he was unable to provide a drainage.

895
00:47:36,340 --> 00:47:43,220
Plan because he doesn't know if the city is going to install sewer water, but I don't think that was in the works.

896
00:47:44,250 --> 00:47:44,490
No.

897
00:47:47,530 --> 00:47:49,170
And I went with the.

898
00:47:49,690 --> 00:47:50,610
Guinness Engineering.

899
00:47:51,130 --> 00:47:55,290
And I was here at the last meeting when everything was put on hold. He's willing.

900
00:47:55,530 --> 00:47:57,290
To pay for design.

901
00:47:57,450 --> 00:48:00,970
And and extend the water and sewer.

902
00:48:01,410 --> 00:48:04,930
I should run over 300,000 bucks but he's willing to pay to extend that.

903
00:48:05,900 --> 00:48:09,540
But he did come to us for utility, so he wasn't trying to hide that.

904
00:48:09,970 --> 00:48:13,010
And to fix that road up, you want to fix that road up coming from the bottom.

905
00:48:13,690 --> 00:48:15,170
And that's on hold because?

906
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,360
Yeah, well, I mean talk to the.

907
00:48:20,930 --> 00:48:26,370
But you know, that's not going to help his drainage though. I mean, the drainage plans to hold water that comes off his property.

908
00:48:26,570 --> 00:48:27,490
That's what the.

909
00:48:28,370 --> 00:48:30,810
So you know, but I yes, Sir.

910
00:48:32,450 --> 00:48:33,050
Go ahead.

911
00:48:38,530 --> 00:48:40,850
Mr. Mayor and Council Joel.

912
00:48:42,370 --> 00:48:43,650
I own the property up there.

913
00:48:45,410 --> 00:48:46,930
I want to speak to.

914
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,340
The safety concerns.

915
00:48:49,450 --> 00:48:50,930
Of this type of business.

916
00:48:51,690 --> 00:48:54,570
Being allowed through special use in in this.

917
00:48:55,250 --> 00:48:56,290
Subdivision.

918
00:48:57,060 --> 00:48:58,700
With the residents that live up there.

919
00:48:59,450 --> 00:49:00,970
I know we just brought the road up.

920
00:49:01,130 --> 00:49:02,930
And that's what I wanted to talk about.

921
00:49:03,410 --> 00:49:06,850
As you know, I have a background retired Fire Service division chief for Carlsbad Fire Department. I'm trained as a hazmat

922
00:49:06,850 --> 00:49:10,290
technician.

923
00:49:11,610 --> 00:49:18,250
Very simply, we use the ERG, the Emergency Response Guide. You can find an orange copy in every single apparatus here in town.

924
00:49:18,970 --> 00:49:23,170
If our first responders pull up on scene, they're going to look up what materials are up there.

925
00:49:23,250 --> 00:49:24,370
We've heard aluminum.

926
00:49:24,490 --> 00:49:25,730
You know, powdered aluminum.

927
00:49:26,410 --> 00:49:27,770
As an accelerant.

928
00:49:28,810 --> 00:49:31,500
Something perchlorate, I don't remember exactly.

929
00:49:32,290 --> 00:49:34,130
If you pull up there and look up aluminum.

930
00:49:35,330 --> 00:49:37,450
You're going to find out that the recommendation.

931
00:49:37,970 --> 00:49:39,050
Straight off the bat.

932
00:49:39,490 --> 00:49:41,090
Is up to half a mile.

933
00:49:41,170 --> 00:49:42,450
Evacuation zone.

934
00:49:43,890 --> 00:49:44,850
Egress.

935
00:49:45,610 --> 00:49:48,250
Here is the keyword. It's going to be a huge problem.

936
00:49:48,330 --> 00:49:50,050
We have 4 residences up there.

937
00:49:50,530 --> 00:49:52,770
That have to travel down the same Rd.

938
00:49:52,850 --> 00:49:53,770
One way in.

939
00:49:54,370 --> 00:49:55,500
One way out.

940
00:49:56,420 --> 00:49:59,580
And they will be going directly through the hot zone.

941
00:50:00,930 --> 00:50:02,250
Which you can't do.

942
00:50:02,330 --> 00:50:05,250
OK, there's nobody on the fire department that's going to.

943
00:50:05,370 --> 00:50:07,290
Route people through the hot zone.

944
00:50:07,810 --> 00:50:09,330
If they have an explosion.

945
00:50:09,690 --> 00:50:10,970
Or a fire.

946
00:50:11,370 --> 00:50:13,090
Or a substantial spill.

947
00:50:13,370 --> 00:50:14,530
At this location.

948
00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:15,960
And this.

949
00:50:17,210 --> 00:50:19,930
Huge problems for human life and safety.

950
00:50:20,610 --> 00:50:21,460
The other thing?

951
00:50:21,610 --> 00:50:22,730
Is that the?

952
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:27,340
The I forget what you call it up there, the substation.

953
00:50:27,810 --> 00:50:30,730
Is also within that evacuation area.

954
00:50:31,250 --> 00:50:33,170
And so that creates another issue of.

955
00:50:33,610 --> 00:50:34,330
You know, have we?

956
00:50:34,450 --> 00:50:35,690
Have we talked to?

957
00:50:36,050 --> 00:50:38,650
Tri-state or whomever is in charge of that at this point.

958
00:50:38,850 --> 00:50:41,650
To find out if they're OK with having these types.

959
00:50:41,890 --> 00:50:44,090
Of hazardous materials and industrial.

960
00:50:44,210 --> 00:50:48,690
Processes existing side by side in such close proximity.

961
00:50:49,170 --> 00:50:50,330
To the power grid.

962
00:50:51,810 --> 00:50:52,850
Remember.

963
00:50:53,210 --> 00:50:57,690
Water is not going to work on these fires that could happen potentially at this facility.

964
00:50:58,370 --> 00:51:00,810
These we're talking about flammable metals.

965
00:51:00,890 --> 00:51:02,290
That's that's class D.

966
00:51:03,130 --> 00:51:05,730
They're going to have to have a special suppression system.

967
00:51:05,930 --> 00:51:07,930
Our firefighters can't put water.

968
00:51:08,410 --> 00:51:08,970
On that.

969
00:51:09,410 --> 00:51:12,410
It'll blow up in everybody's face should they do so.

970
00:51:12,810 --> 00:51:13,660
OK, so there's.

971
00:51:13,850 --> 00:51:14,930
Water's not gonna work.

972
00:51:15,830 --> 00:51:21,180
For suppression, they're going to have to have a class D system in place. They're going to have to have class D suppression.

973
00:51:23,410 --> 00:51:24,570
Really. All the fire.

974
00:51:24,650 --> 00:51:26,330
Service is going to be able to do.

975
00:51:26,490 --> 00:51:29,050
Is arrive assist in evacuation?

976
00:51:29,850 --> 00:51:31,130
Creative perimeter.

977
00:51:31,290 --> 00:51:33,290
And burn that facility to the ground.

978
00:51:33,450 --> 00:51:36,530
If that's if we ever got to that situation.

979
00:51:37,830 --> 00:51:41,380
And so once again, I would strongly urge.

980
00:51:42,450 --> 00:51:44,690
Council to consider.

981
00:51:44,810 --> 00:51:46,250
The intent and purpose.

982
00:51:46,450 --> 00:51:50,170
Of the strict limitations placed upon the special use permit.

983
00:51:50,610 --> 00:51:53,530
For resident or rural agricultural zoning.

984
00:51:53,970 --> 00:51:54,890
And I would.

985
00:51:54,970 --> 00:51:55,970
Implore you.

986
00:51:56,210 --> 00:51:57,890
For life and human safety.

987
00:51:58,330 --> 00:52:01,650
To please put a stop to this and not let it happen.

988
00:52:02,170 --> 00:52:03,090
Thank you very much.

989
00:52:05,850 --> 00:52:08,970
You know this came to the council under the city.

990
00:52:10,330 --> 00:52:12,570
On a special use permit issue.

991
00:52:13,170 --> 00:52:14,330
However, I think.

992
00:52:14,450 --> 00:52:16,050
That the theme of this.

993
00:52:16,730 --> 00:52:17,970
Runs much deeper.

994
00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:20,300
I think that.

995
00:52:20,570 --> 00:52:22,490
The city of Socorro has.

996
00:52:22,770 --> 00:52:24,170
Lost businesses.

997
00:52:24,370 --> 00:52:27,810
City has Sakura schools that has lost students.

998
00:52:28,690 --> 00:52:30,930
Utility accounts have diminished.

999
00:52:31,010 --> 00:52:32,650
To the tune of about 400.

1000
00:52:33,290 --> 00:52:34,850
Utility accounts for support.

1001
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,900
Here we have, and I'm not saying that.

1002
00:52:39,010 --> 00:52:41,130
We should approve this special use permit.

1003
00:52:41,490 --> 00:52:42,370
Or we shouldn't?

1004
00:52:42,850 --> 00:52:44,650
But what I am saying is here's.

1005
00:52:44,890 --> 00:52:46,410
Here's a young man who.

1006
00:52:46,890 --> 00:52:50,210
Is bringing an entrepreneur.

1007
00:52:51,210 --> 00:52:53,690
A spirit to our community.

1008
00:52:54,090 --> 00:52:55,690
To enhance.

1009
00:52:56,050 --> 00:52:58,730
What the community already provides.

1010
00:52:59,730 --> 00:53:02,330
Growth in the community should be built.

1011
00:53:02,450 --> 00:53:03,930
On what the community?

1012
00:53:04,330 --> 00:53:05,610
Is good at doing.

1013
00:53:06,620 --> 00:53:08,460
This community is good at.

1014
00:53:08,850 --> 00:53:10,610
Training young people.

1015
00:53:10,970 --> 00:53:12,450
To think critically.

1016
00:53:12,810 --> 00:53:14,730
This community is good.

1017
00:53:15,170 --> 00:53:16,930
At testing.

1018
00:53:17,050 --> 00:53:18,010
Explosives. Umm.

1019
00:53:18,670 --> 00:53:20,940
It's what we've done, it's what we do.

1020
00:53:21,670 --> 00:53:23,860
So I'm saying that.

1021
00:53:24,970 --> 00:53:27,570
This entrepreneur came into.

1022
00:53:27,730 --> 00:53:28,730
The community of.

1023
00:53:29,610 --> 00:53:30,650
With ideas.

1024
00:53:30,770 --> 00:53:32,450
We have a budget that.

1025
00:53:32,770 --> 00:53:37,530
That expends funds for economic development and we have committees that.

1026
00:53:37,650 --> 00:53:40,250
That come together to discuss.

1027
00:53:40,410 --> 00:53:44,450
What Socorro needs to do to put people in those buildings.

1028
00:53:44,610 --> 00:53:49,050
To bring back students, to bring back families, to have them who live here, not.

1029
00:53:49,410 --> 00:53:50,770
1500 of them.

1030
00:53:50,890 --> 00:53:52,890
Driving away from Socorro every day.

1031
00:53:53,330 --> 00:53:55,810
So we have those committees and here's.

1032
00:53:56,450 --> 00:53:58,410
Of business that's coming into town.

1033
00:53:58,770 --> 00:53:59,730
Saying you know what?

1034
00:54:00,090 --> 00:54:02,490
Here's an economic development opportunity.

1035
00:54:02,810 --> 00:54:04,530
Your account and I'm not just.

1036
00:54:04,690 --> 00:54:07,410
Telling you through a committee or through a meeting?

1037
00:54:07,650 --> 00:54:09,050
That it's a good idea.

1038
00:54:09,450 --> 00:54:12,170
I'm investing in this idea.

1039
00:54:12,290 --> 00:54:16,770
So that's one or two steps above that he's willing to spend funds.

1040
00:54:17,090 --> 00:54:18,530
To create.

1041
00:54:18,690 --> 00:54:24,210
A business here in Sapporo. So I'm not saying that the special use permit should be passed or shouldn't be passed.

1042
00:54:24,570 --> 00:54:25,970
But I am saying that the under.

1043
00:54:26,090 --> 00:54:28,810
Underlying theme of this whole thing says you know what?

1044
00:54:29,290 --> 00:54:30,530
We need to.

1045
00:54:30,650 --> 00:54:34,170
See what we can do as a council and what we're obligated to do.

1046
00:54:34,490 --> 00:54:37,010
As the Council is an administration to.

1047
00:54:37,410 --> 00:54:40,610
Bring in companies like that that are safe.

1048
00:54:41,090 --> 00:54:43,850
That builds the coral back up.

1049
00:54:44,330 --> 00:54:45,970
So that's that's just my.

1050
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:52,140
It seems like a thing that's pretty common too. Is that.

1051
00:54:52,330 --> 00:54:54,650
Misinformation is given to people that come here to.

1052
00:54:54,730 --> 00:54:55,650
From somebody, yeah.

1053
00:54:56,010 --> 00:55:00,530
About where they can do business in certain particular areas, because that was Mr. Bornhorse.

1054
00:55:01,050 --> 00:55:02,210
What he said was.

1055
00:55:02,450 --> 00:55:06,930
That account, I don't know if it's accounting or he got information from someone that said he can build there.

1056
00:55:06,970 --> 00:55:09,250
I don't know if that happens before or not, but that's what was said.

1057
00:55:09,650 --> 00:55:11,130
And then these folks.

1058
00:55:11,570 --> 00:55:12,810
Said the same thing that.

1059
00:55:13,130 --> 00:55:16,250
They were misleading with my real estate agent or by somebody that.

1060
00:55:16,650 --> 00:55:18,290
And again, that goes back to you.

1061
00:55:18,770 --> 00:55:20,450
That was Steve is not here.

1062
00:55:21,050 --> 00:55:22,290
At the map that we.

1063
00:55:23,460 --> 00:55:25,140
What Christine I talked about where?

1064
00:55:26,050 --> 00:55:28,610
We're trying to get the budget to get.

1065
00:55:29,090 --> 00:55:31,250
Mapping so that you can.

1066
00:55:31,690 --> 00:55:33,210
Simply pull it from your cell phone.

1067
00:55:33,530 --> 00:55:35,490
What is allowable?

1068
00:55:35,650 --> 00:55:38,290
In certain zones, certain residences, certain.

1069
00:55:38,810 --> 00:55:40,970
Areas zoned for.

1070
00:55:41,090 --> 00:55:42,210
And what you can do and.

1071
00:55:42,490 --> 00:55:43,850
Where maps are so old.

1072
00:55:44,130 --> 00:55:46,010
It could be misleading, I'm sure.

1073
00:55:46,410 --> 00:55:48,410
But something seems a bit too.

1074
00:55:48,890 --> 00:55:49,730
People.

1075
00:55:50,170 --> 00:55:52,850
Aren't doing their due diligence and then it's falling on us.

1076
00:55:53,450 --> 00:55:56,810
And making us look like we don't want economic development when it's just simply.

1077
00:55:57,410 --> 00:55:59,450
The one area for it is no.

1078
00:55:59,530 --> 00:56:00,890
Is what is what I'm saying.

1079
00:56:01,370 --> 00:56:04,530
So I don't know. We'll continue to work on that mirror in that committee.

1080
00:56:04,730 --> 00:56:05,410
Hopefully we can.

1081
00:56:05,890 --> 00:56:07,770
Are you standing up or just stretching?

1082
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:21,180
I'm Daphne Burnett. I used to work out at White Sands Missile Range and I work with the TRS.

1083
00:56:21,290 --> 00:56:25,170
Units and we did work in aluminum powder and that's some pretty nasty stuff.

1084
00:56:25,650 --> 00:56:27,330
So it's not, it's not safe.

1085
00:56:27,370 --> 00:56:28,970
And I just want to let you guys know that.

1086
00:56:30,370 --> 00:56:35,850
Thank you. You know, you know, I think the thing that impressed me most this meeting, but especially the last meeting.

1087
00:56:36,370 --> 00:56:39,650
Was how much worried the neighbors.

1088
00:56:40,130 --> 00:56:43,820
About this installation and how much I did not know.

1089
00:56:44,330 --> 00:56:45,170
What he was.

1090
00:56:45,290 --> 00:56:46,210
Planning to do.

1091
00:56:46,330 --> 00:56:49,290
That I should have known better about other things that he had.

1092
00:56:49,450 --> 00:56:50,930
With his propellant and.

1093
00:56:51,250 --> 00:56:52,490
And then we had a talk.

1094
00:56:52,890 --> 00:56:55,250
I don't want to drop names, but we had.

1095
00:56:55,490 --> 00:56:59,170
Talk with Miss Val Walsh and President Jackson.

1096
00:56:59,250 --> 00:56:59,850
About uh.

1097
00:56:59,930 --> 00:57:04,650
This gentleman, and they didn't know much about him and how much he was doing and what he was.

1098
00:57:05,410 --> 00:57:11,050
What what actually he was planning to do and he he actually had not approached them about.

1099
00:57:11,290 --> 00:57:13,450
The the industrial park at Tech.

1100
00:57:13,810 --> 00:57:17,690
And because they have their own, they have their own business up there too.

1101
00:57:17,810 --> 00:57:20,330
And so he never approached them on this thing.

1102
00:57:20,410 --> 00:57:21,610
So I kind of.

1103
00:57:21,730 --> 00:57:24,290
Was a little bit misled on that what he had said.

1104
00:57:24,690 --> 00:57:25,690
And I think.

1105
00:57:25,850 --> 00:57:30,770
Fed up chain enough, I mean, but you know, that's your public comment and public information and.

1106
00:57:30,890 --> 00:57:33,170
And what people talk to you back and forth and.

1107
00:57:33,690 --> 00:57:37,050
As elected officials, we have to react to that.

1108
00:57:37,410 --> 00:57:39,610
So I'm just saying that that's.

1109
00:57:39,770 --> 00:57:42,250
What impressed me the most is what you're just saying about.

1110
00:57:42,290 --> 00:57:45,980
What's going on up there? And I wouldn't want to be living up there if this guy was doing this.

1111
00:57:47,250 --> 00:57:48,290
Just as simple as that.

1112
00:57:49,010 --> 00:57:52,570
But he is, he is putting in money. He is willing to bring in money.

1113
00:57:52,810 --> 00:57:54,340
You should have done it somewhere else.

1114
00:57:56,090 --> 00:57:56,930
But that's.

1115
00:57:57,050 --> 00:57:58,050
But that's not what the.

1116
00:57:58,130 --> 00:57:59,490
What the motion and the?

1117
00:58:01,290 --> 00:58:04,890
This this kind of came.

1118
00:58:05,170 --> 00:58:06,650
To us through the back door.

1119
00:58:07,450 --> 00:58:11,570
Marshall exactly one time. One more time.

1120
00:58:12,130 --> 00:58:15,170
But remember what you said it said at the PNZ but.

1121
00:58:17,450 --> 00:58:17,650
I know.

1122
00:58:18,330 --> 00:58:18,970
Well, uh.

1123
00:58:20,050 --> 00:58:23,370
The back door is really the right word.

1124
00:58:23,610 --> 00:58:25,770
Because it did slip through the back.

1125
00:58:25,890 --> 00:58:29,220
Through door without following any rules.

1126
00:58:29,730 --> 00:58:32,850
He should have brought the plan to the PMV.

1127
00:58:33,010 --> 00:58:34,930
The first time he went there.

1128
00:58:36,370 --> 00:58:38,650
But with all due respect.

1129
00:58:39,490 --> 00:58:39,770
And.

1130
00:58:42,330 --> 00:58:44,130
I want to talk about economic.

1131
00:58:44,290 --> 00:58:45,330
Development.

1132
00:58:45,890 --> 00:58:46,770
I looked at.

1133
00:58:47,490 --> 00:58:48,810
What does it mean?

1134
00:58:49,170 --> 00:58:50,810
Economic development.

1135
00:58:51,050 --> 00:58:53,810
Because that's been thrown around with this issue.

1136
00:58:55,060 --> 00:58:57,940
And it says.

1137
00:58:58,050 --> 00:58:59,090
The econom.

1138
00:58:59,330 --> 00:59:00,330
Development. Uh.

1139
00:59:00,490 --> 00:59:02,730
Is supposed to improve.

1140
00:59:04,100 --> 00:59:05,180
The community.

1141
00:59:05,810 --> 00:59:07,570
Living standards.

1142
00:59:08,250 --> 00:59:11,020
And make it a better place.

1143
00:59:11,730 --> 00:59:13,050
This does not.

1144
00:59:13,170 --> 00:59:14,010
Do that.

1145
00:59:14,450 --> 00:59:17,460
By Mr. Bornhorse own words.

1146
00:59:17,890 --> 00:59:18,930
He said.

1147
00:59:19,010 --> 00:59:21,330
He would hire at the most.

1148
00:59:21,530 --> 00:59:25,020
And that was only one time that we talked. He had other stories.

1149
00:59:25,690 --> 00:59:31,330
That's at the last meeting. She said he would hire at most 4 to 5 employees.

1150
00:59:32,460 --> 00:59:34,060
That is not.

1151
00:59:34,980 --> 00:59:36,620
Going to help the community.

1152
00:59:37,660 --> 00:59:42,780
He also said at the PNZ meeting that he was never going to make a product.

1153
00:59:43,130 --> 00:59:47,970
In New Mexico because it costs too much to build product here.

1154
00:59:48,580 --> 00:59:51,220
So if you're looking at something like that.

1155
00:59:51,730 --> 00:59:52,770
Coming later.

1156
00:59:53,780 --> 00:59:56,460
By his own words, it's not going to.

1157
00:59:59,590 --> 01:00:03,300
And at the last meeting he said he was going to be here.

1158
01:00:03,410 --> 01:00:05,810
Maybe five years and then exit.

1159
01:00:05,930 --> 01:00:07,170
As a millionaire.

1160
01:00:07,970 --> 01:00:09,930
He's never going to move here.

1161
01:00:11,090 --> 01:00:14,130
He's going to be that person that drives from.

1162
01:00:14,290 --> 01:00:16,330
Albuquerque, where he lives.

1163
01:00:16,570 --> 01:00:17,490
To hear.

1164
01:00:17,810 --> 01:00:21,610
To do what he does and then he's going to drive back.

1165
01:00:22,390 --> 01:00:27,820
I I just don't think that's the economic development that's going to help.

1166
01:00:28,250 --> 01:00:29,490
This community.

1167
01:00:29,850 --> 01:00:32,050
And I know we need it. We want it.

1168
01:00:32,370 --> 01:00:35,370
But tell me, look for something else.

1169
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,580
I just this just doesn't seem like a good fit.

1170
01:00:42,610 --> 01:00:43,890
And you know.

1171
01:00:44,370 --> 01:00:46,410
The same answer about.

1172
01:00:46,490 --> 01:00:47,410
Why not?

1173
01:00:47,530 --> 01:00:48,930
The industrial park.

1174
01:00:49,700 --> 01:00:50,820
Why not there?

1175
01:00:51,010 --> 01:00:53,130
Spend your 300,000.

1176
01:00:54,010 --> 01:00:55,730
And do something there.

1177
01:00:56,370 --> 01:00:58,290
I just think it would be a better.

1178
01:00:58,850 --> 01:00:59,970
A better fit?

1179
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,700
And then he would have a place.

1180
01:01:02,970 --> 01:01:04,530
If he should decide.

1181
01:01:04,850 --> 01:01:05,490
To make.

1182
01:01:05,650 --> 01:01:13,010
Product because they can't do it where we are. He'd have to come before you again if he wanted to make product because.

1183
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:17,360
Manufacturing is also not allowed in the rural.

1184
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:19,680
Area.

1185
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:21,840
So just to add that.

1186
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:22,880
Thank you.

1187
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,320
All in favor for sending it back to PNG.

1188
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:25,960
Aye.

1189
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,760
Alright, that's where we'll have our next.

1190
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,000
But I think you guys are safe. I don't think it's going to be.

1191
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,720
Deal. Anyway, we have something exciting news. We have Vice President Delilah Walsh.

1192
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:39,960
Who is going to talk about the?

1193
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,200
Geo Bond issue.

1194
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:48,400
Is really important to tech, but it'll help the city tremendously about the exciting things that they're planning to do.

1195
01:01:50,130 --> 01:01:55,730
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Councilmembers, the line of Walsh. I'm Vice President for Administration and Finance at New Mexico Tech.

1196
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,960
And today I'm asking for your support as the city of Socorro.

1197
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,200
For the.

1198
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,120
Advocacy of.

1199
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:04,880
Geo Bond 3.

1200
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,400
And Geo Bond 3 is a general obligation bond issued by the state of New Mexico. It's not by the city, the county, or New Mexico

1201
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,840
Tech.

1202
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:13,160
It is.

1203
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:17,280
Educational debts that the state issues, which is paid back through.

1204
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,600
State of New Mexico New Mexican property taxes.

1205
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:21,840
So they're too big?

1206
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:26,290
Components or big assets related to this Geo bond #1.

1207
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,640
There are no new taxes if this bond passes.

1208
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:37,240
What happens is the state retires current debt and then issues the new debt and your taxes stay the same. So voting yes means.

1209
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:38,520
No new taxes.

1210
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,720
#2 Socorro County is the third largest recipient of Geo Bond.

1211
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:47,240
Funds should this pass, that's the first time in our history that we've received.

1212
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,840
Or on the ballot to receive so much money.

1213
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,520
What this means is we're asking for $48 million.

1214
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,920
Will be allocated to New Mexico Tech for two projects.

1215
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:02,840
The first being the remodel of the MSEC building. That's the big building behind the Bureau of Geology building.

1216
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,880
It was brand new.

1217
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:10,040
When I was a student and so that tells you how old it is. It needs to be updated.

1218
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:17,560
That's a $40 million project. In addition to that, we're asking for an $8 million core building for the Bureau of Geology. And

1219
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:23,120
what we do is anybody who drills a well, whether it be natural gas, oil, water.

1220
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:24,880
In the state of New Mexico.

1221
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,720
They can deposit those core samples with the.

1222
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:31,520
Bureau of Geology and the public has access to that data.

1223
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:38,280
So it takes over $100,000 to drill a well. And if you want to know what seismology is there, what geology is there?

1224
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:44,520
Strata is there. You can go to the Bureau of Geology and look at those core samples. We've run out of room.

1225
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:46,240
In our storage facility.

1226
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,400
So on those notes.

1227
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:53,610
The largest recipients of Geo Bond money in the education sector is.

1228
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:54,880
Bernalillo County.

1229
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:56,280
Donna Anna County.

1230
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,040
And then Socorro County. So we very much want our.

1231
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,960
Our voters to support that Geo bond issue.

1232
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:07,080
And obviously, if those projects come through, it's about a half $1,000,000 in GRT revenue to the City of Socorro and an

1233
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:11,800
additional half million to the County of Socorro.

1234
01:04:12,430 --> 01:04:14,010
So we hope we have your support.

1235
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,440
Are there signs that we can put up or?

1236
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,200
Where can we access those?

1237
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,200
We do our.

1238
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,920
Marketing and communications director Katie Esmail, You can wave.

1239
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:31,240
Have some handouts? We've shared some literature with the City Council.

1240
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:32,160
And.

1241
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:37,080
What the mayor has graciously offered to let us use one of your billboards.

1242
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:38,880
During the campaign for.

1243
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,560
To ask voters to vote on Geo Bond 3.

1244
01:04:42,740 --> 01:04:44,260
But we will get more handouts to.

1245
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,160
The county gets half of that.

1246
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,560
Well, on their Sears. What the heck is that?

1247
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:51,400
Mr. Parker.

1248
01:04:53,690 --> 01:04:57,370
Will also, if it is approval, put the resolution in the utility bills this month.

1249
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:01,800
Yes, we're certainly strongly behind this. I mean, as you know.

1250
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:03,640
Tech is our main economic engine.

1251
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,880
And we need to continue improving the facilities.

1252
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,360
And they made a great.

1253
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,000
Pitch to the Geo Bond people to.

1254
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:13,520
Where's Saguaro County?

1255
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,680
You know, we're going to be able to get a lot of.

1256
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:17,200
Help from that?

1257
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,160
So we should never be able to get.

1258
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,520
Never been able to get that kind of money out of the legislature.

1259
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:23,800
So the Geo bonds are the big thing.

1260
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:32,880
Will we approve to support resolution #2609-15A?

1261
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:37,360
A second moved a second discussion. Do I have anything else you want to?

1262
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:43,040
No, Sir. As I said, I appreciate your support and the voter support. We have several projects happening at New Mexico Tech. This

1263
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:48,360
last legislative session we received almost $90,000,000 in funding.

1264
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:52,300
Through the state of New Mexico between instruction general and capital outlays. So Doctor Jackson will be here, I think in

1265
01:05:52,300 --> 01:05:56,000
October.

1266
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:57,120
To give you an update of.

1267
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,570
The things that we're doing are initiatives and our capital.

1268
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:01,720
And it has been great.

1269
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:03,040
Holland, Taylor.

1270
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,000
Aye, thank you very much for coming.

1271
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:06,120
Thank you.

1272
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,760
OK. And then we're going to go.

1273
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:11,880
Looks from funding that we've been getting.

1274
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:16,360
For public transportation system or resolution 26-09-15.

1275
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:17,760
And that is?

1276
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:24,800
That says for our Mexico Department of Transportation 5311 transportation program that funds our.

1277
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:26,360
Our buses and our.

1278
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:27,240
Bands.

1279
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:31,400
So let's make a motion.

1280
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,080
I'll make a motion to approve that.

1281
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:34,200
Moved and seconded.

1282
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:37,120
And now the.

1283
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:41,480
Execution and delivery of a local Solar Access Fund grant.

1284
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:42,480
I will let.

1285
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,560
Miss Ruby handled that one. Ruby.

1286
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:51,960
Mayor Council. So this is a solar grant, so this is for design. So we're looking at the wastewater treatment plant.

1287
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:53,920
To design solar.

1288
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,160
Some solar panels because they.

1289
01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,160
High electrical use there. So this is just for design and then once we design it, we'll actually have to go out for construction

1290
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:03,800
if we end up.

1291
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,840
If the mayor is approving if you all.

1292
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:12,200
Do the solar panels, but this is just design. It's $50,000 and this is to offset costs there.

1293
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:13,840
That's the thought of it.

1294
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:14,400
Yeah.

1295
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:16,840
Mr.

1296
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:18,280
To approve resolution.

1297
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,640
26,000.

1298
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,280
15C execution and delivered a local solar access.

1299
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:27,120
2nd.

1300
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:27,840
Aye.

1301
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,920
The next one we're trying to get.

1302
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,080
A Metropolitan.

1303
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,680
Area plan and application which will allow us to.

1304
01:07:39,430 --> 01:07:42,090
To develop California St.

1305
01:07:43,130 --> 01:07:45,570
And Christian is going to give us.

1306
01:07:47,810 --> 01:07:51,050
Aye, background. And they're helping us tremendously at.

1307
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:52,000
Mr. Gita.

1308
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,960
Mayor and City Council members, I put a fact sheet.

1309
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:58,280
In your packet.

1310
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,080
That is a little 2 pager about.

1311
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,080
What a metropolitan redevelopment area is.

1312
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:05,720
And what we are.

1313
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,000
Requesting what this resolution is.

1314
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:09,480
Permission to submit the.

1315
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,000
The application.

1316
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:14,840
This economic development initiative.

1317
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:19,810
Can give the city some tools that it does not have currently to.

1318
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:21,560
Utilize.

1319
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:26,600
Under you utilize underutilized properties. That doesn't make sense to you to use the tools.

1320
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:33,920
To fix the underutilized buildings we have and turn them into economic development opportunities. So one of the really.

1321
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:40,733
Great things about this plan is that you it has the opportunity to designate areas. So we've already been discussing looking at

1322
01:08:40,733 --> 01:08:46,666
California St. Of course because of all the vacant buildings, the Plaza is also an area of interest. And the other thing is we can

1323
01:08:46,666 --> 01:08:52,599
also designate residential areas that are.

1324
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,960
Dilapidated and need to be rebuilt and this.

1325
01:08:56,280 --> 01:09:01,520
It is an opportunity to be able to get around the anti donation clause. So what this can do?

1326
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:09,080
It can provide the city with the ability to purchase buildings on California Street and then offer them to businesses at a lower.

1327
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:13,120
Market price so you could have more incentive to come into Sapporo.

1328
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:19,760
You can also waive property taxes for up to 30 years for companies. There's a lot of useful.

1329
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:28,240
Tools in this plan and I don't think enough rural communities in New Mexico are utilizing this and I'm really excited that.

1330
01:09:28,480 --> 01:09:33,040
This fell into my lap doing some research and I think it's a great opportunity for Socorro.

1331
01:09:33,850 --> 01:09:35,690
Oh yeah, yeah, that's awesome.

1332
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,440
I have an item I'd like a motion to.

1333
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,720
2nd so moved and seconded as you may not know or no.

1334
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,200
We just closed on The Smiths building.

1335
01:09:47,130 --> 01:09:49,290
It's going to be did they send us the check yet?

1336
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:55,760
No Sir, I'm gonna have to give a pull up and see if the notice of obligation is got to send us a check to pay the owner.

1337
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:56,880
But it's.

1338
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,000
Going to be ours.

1339
01:09:58,280 --> 01:09:59,720
And the Valero.

1340
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,200
The old Valero building is being.

1341
01:10:02,480 --> 01:10:03,760
Put up for sale.

1342
01:10:04,510 --> 01:10:06,530
I asked them to donate it to the city.

1343
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:11,240
They're in Canada, so they wouldn't. You know, those Canadians, they're terrible.

1344
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,120
It's $150,000 they want for that little building.

1345
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:20,120
So we're going to keep working on them, see if they'll donate that to us and you got.

1346
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:25,160
Got to get rid of the tanks, they already took them out and put a cement over it.

1347
01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:29,560
But they're got it for sale for 150. But I'm just, that's just information.

1348
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:31,080
Did I say all in favor?

1349
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:32,760
Yeah, all in favor.

1350
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:35,160
Anyway, so it's ours.

1351
01:10:35,480 --> 01:10:37,840
Now we've got a lot of these resolutions.

1352
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:39,800
Authorization and improving.

1353
01:10:41,180 --> 01:10:44,730
Submission of a completed application to NMFA. Is that Ruby?

1354
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:46,880
That's me, Mr. Mayor, that.

1355
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,880
One of your 30 year projects that you still haven't let go is getting this.

1356
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:53,120
Levy Recert.

1357
01:10:54,180 --> 01:10:56,730
And the the Corps of Engineers wants.

1358
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,720
Three additional things.

1359
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:02,000
Or actually, it's female wants three additional things.

1360
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:06,320
Done before they'll even accept an application to recertify the levy.

1361
01:11:07,580 --> 01:11:09,650
MRGCD, who we're working with is.

1362
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:11,240
Taking over 2 of them.

1363
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,040
And this is our third.

1364
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:14,360
Of the three.

1365
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:19,040
Which we're handling and that's to do an interior drainage study on the stormwater.

1366
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,360
And we can use the MRGCD.

1367
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:24,080
Contract authority in place with Bohannon Houston.

1368
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:29,800
They've estimated it to be $555,000 to 800,000.

1369
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:31,880
And it will take 52 weeks.

1370
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,760
And we're gonna submit.

1371
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,800
Upon approval tomorrow for the 850,000.

1372
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:42,280
Mr. Donald.

1373
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,800
Question. This is what we talked about right now about the.

1374
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,320
If this does go through and get past this will help with.

1375
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,760
Like flood insurance and things like that, right?

1376
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,400
Those are the three things FEMA wants Will.

1377
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,760
Like I said, the two of our GCD's working on in this one on us.

1378
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,880
Sure are the three things to even submit an application to recertification.

1379
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:02,600
Thank you.

1380
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,000
30 years ago.

1381
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,320
I started with Senator De.

1382
01:12:07,140 --> 01:12:08,420
To get a levee built.

1383
01:12:09,180 --> 01:12:09,860
At the.

1384
01:12:11,440 --> 01:12:14,520
And after 15 years after that.

1385
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:16,760
He finally got us the money.

1386
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:17,960
To do that.

1387
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:22,240
Conservancy stepped in. The state stepped in.

1388
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,560
And we spent about $40 million to do that levy.

1389
01:12:26,450 --> 01:12:28,810
From each one diversion Dutch to them.

1390
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:29,920
Brown, Arroyo.

1391
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:32,320
We thought we were done.

1392
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:36,080
Well, FEMA.

1393
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:38,920
Wants more things being done.

1394
01:12:39,850 --> 01:12:42,650
And one of this is this internal drainage project.

1395
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:46,040
I don't know if you've seen some of the pictures in Gallup right now this weekend.

1396
01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:48,880
This last week they're getting lots and lots of flavor.

1397
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,920
We're lucky we actually have a lot of holding ponds that.

1398
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,120
Hold our water and we're lucky that the Conservancy.

1399
01:12:55,480 --> 01:12:57,320
Allows us. They don't do that anymore.

1400
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,320
But they allow us to put that water in their ditches.

1401
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,560
Because when they shut the water off when they have a lot of rain.

1402
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,840
Our ponds fill up and they go into their ditches with pumps.

1403
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,840
And so, but they're they're not allowing that anymore.

1404
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,440
So this drainage study hopefully will be the last.

1405
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,640
Thing that will allow everybody in the city of.

1406
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:17,720
Socorro.

1407
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:19,680
Businesses and residents.

1408
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,920
That they don't have to go buy flood insurance.

1409
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:27,800
And that's about $300, maybe $400.00 a year that people pay extra on their houses when they.

1410
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:31,520
Have insurance and that's we've been trying to do that literally for 30 years.

1411
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,200
But this as Donald has said.

1412
01:13:36,010 --> 01:13:38,210
Is the last, hopefully the.

1413
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:45,800
They were not confident it will be. If they say 52 weeks, I won't make it hardly out.

1414
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:48,680
But anyway, we want to finish this story.

1415
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:50,840
So anyway, action item arguments.

1416
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:52,760
Make a motion to pass it.

1417
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:53,640
2nd.

1418
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:56,000
Aye, aye.

1419
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:58,840
OK, well that is pretty weak.

1420
01:13:59,440 --> 01:14:04,480
But this is important. This is really important. I know you're selling insurance, but.

1421
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:06,360
I'm going to get rid of that.

1422
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:08,320
My biggest worry is.

1423
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:13,240
FEMA says they're going to do something. They come down that it doesn't make. They don't make it worse for us.

1424
01:14:13,480 --> 01:14:19,880
No, they're better, I promise you. No, don't say that. Please don't say that. We've been working. I know.

1425
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:21,760
He said he's gone anyways, he said.

1426
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:23,520
You wouldn't have to worry about.

1427
01:14:26,500 --> 01:14:27,820
In that old business.

1428
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,960
We got all the directors still here if you guys got any.

1429
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:32,680
We had a great 9.

1430
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:34,800
911.

1431
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:36,760
Thanks from Deputy.

1432
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,440
Chief Pacheco.

1433
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,120
That was really great. They brought their equipment and.

1434
01:14:41,480 --> 01:14:43,280
Of course, Peter. That's why he got that.

1435
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,280
That quilt, he always runs the show and.

1436
01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:47,320
And we've got.

1437
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:48,720
Mr. Hunter and.

1438
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:49,520
And uh.

1439
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:54,880
And they do a great job with that too.

1440
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:58,240
And we have Billy. I know Steve was here a little while ago. He snuck off.

1441
01:14:58,600 --> 01:14:59,320
But uh.

1442
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,080
The rodeo is going great guns.

1443
01:15:02,480 --> 01:15:03,680
And this was just a.

1444
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:05,320
Caesar this weekend.

1445
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,000
Are you guys going to be out there next weekend or?

1446
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:09,960
Yeah, is next week is the big one.

1447
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:11,800
As the high school.

1448
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,000
A rodeo, Big one that we.

1449
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:17,000
What's the next weekend?

1450
01:15:17,480 --> 01:15:22,720
OK. And then we had the County Fair, of course.

1451
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:28,120
So and we do have money to improve the rodeo, so we've been working on trying to get things.

1452
01:15:28,440 --> 01:15:30,280
Accomplished. Their big one is the.

1453
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,560
Where these people all gathered to?

1454
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:34,080
Do the roping and the.

1455
01:15:34,440 --> 01:15:36,760
And and and and the barrel racing.

1456
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,600
We're going to cover that area because it gets pretty hot over there.

1457
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:44,650
Mr. Mayor, the sound was great, the video was great, that little.

1458
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:50,960
Entertainment little Center was super. You could see what you could lookout there and look alive or look at the TV.

1459
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,280
The announcer was super. It was super fun.

1460
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,400
People were having a great time.

1461
01:15:57,480 --> 01:16:03,960
Could feel some air moving through those through the vans. So yeah, I was, it was a great. Everybody I talked to had a great time.

1462
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,720
Steve's guys are doing a great job out there and loads of guys.

1463
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:08,560
But anyway, that's just a.

1464
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,400
Kind of shine their apple, they do a good job with it.

1465
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,280
Executive session.

1466
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:15,400
No lawsuits that I know of.

1467
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:18,640
So we would talk about.

1468
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:20,400
Personnel changes.

1469
01:16:23,470 --> 01:16:27,930
Valerie Valerie Acosta, Animal Control Officer temporary to permanent, Adrian.

1470
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,720
Jackson Recreation temporary to permanent. Christopher Carrillo.

1471
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:33,560
Certificate and degree.

1472
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:35,480
You gotta do what you got a degree in.

1473
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:36,280
Chris.

1474
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:38,400
Human Services, OK.

1475
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,520
And we've got Diana Aragon. She's going to be a.

1476
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:45,560
Fuel tank operator and Daniel Sanchez at the landfill.

1477
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:49,800
This video make a motion. We approve the personal changes as read.

1478
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,000
Second, the second, or in favor.

1479
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:52,440
Aye.

1480
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:54,560
Now we have.

1481
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:56,280
Black gap utilities.

1482
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:57,840
They're from.

1483
01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:59,400
Crossfire aggregates.

1484
01:16:59,960 --> 01:17:01,480
They're out of town.

1485
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:03,920
And then we have New Mexico Dental Group.

1486
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:05,360
Which is local.

1487
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:06,240
Dental clip.

1488
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:08,240
Mr. Mayor, Mr.

1489
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:10,840
A motion that we approve the business registrations as a.

1490
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:13,800
Second, we've been seconded on to.

1491
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:16,640
Aye, Tuesday, October 6.

1492
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:18,600
Is the next meeting I won't be here.

1493
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:23,080
Tell Mariana, Salis, Lopez or whoever's going to be the mayor.

1494
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:26,920
Thank you very much for.

1495
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,400
Sitting along with us. Congratulations.