[4:52] stand Nation
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[4:58] andice
[5:05] all right mayor Brian Lewis council
president Roger Perry here councelor
[5:10] Jeff Hensley here councelor Dina oler
President councelor Joseph Parsons here
[5:14] president Mr may have
[5:28] a
[5:33] Sarah I'm with the Lin local
paper is this a executive meeting or is
[5:39] it
publicate uh it's a it's a work how do
[5:42] you do uh it's a work session so there's
not really any public participation but
[5:46] it is open to the public the meeting is
gonna be it is live streamed on YouTube
[5:49] so you can watch after as well awesome
okay
[5:55] thanks all righty so we're here tonight
because uh uh we have to make some
[6:02] painful decisions to deal with the
result of a natural disaster and that
[6:06] our wells are not producing nearly
enough water to meet demand uh we have
[6:12] almost completely maxed out our $64,000
budget for water so uh in order to get
[6:18] to a full 100,000 we need to uh
basically find uh 40,000 more um and
[6:26] I've identified about $30,000 in a mix
of Cuts using our contingency some
[6:31] unanticipated funds and having a higher
budget surplus at the end of the last
[6:35] year uh then
expected uh that will allow us to make
[6:41] these cuts and get 30,000 of it in the
other 10,000 of it can come either from
[6:46] cutting our enhanced Surplus or from uh
adding new fees for water and in adding
[6:54] new fees for water um the number we I we
were looking at in terms was 9 cents per
[7:00] gallon that works out to about the
actual cost of water hauling and the
[7:04] idea would be that for everybody who
uses more than 5,000 gallons then every
[7:08] gallon over that they have to use they
end up paying nine cents per gallon and
[7:12] that would be extended through the water
restriction period um we did get some
[7:18] good news this morning from our Public
Works director he believes that the
[7:22] wells are picking up enough that we will
be done with water hauling by the end of
[7:25] the month so KN on wood cross your
fingers everybody
[7:30] what was it oh sorry I thought he gave
heard oh
[7:36] good yeah uh my ears aren't doing as
good these days the used to so um that's
[7:42] kind of what I wanted to go over tonight
now I did want to make sure that there
[7:45] was a picture of where we are
financially um compared to this year why
[7:50] did we have such a large Surplus left
over at the end of last year um how can
[7:55] we use it
appropriately uh what kind of money is
[7:59] going to be left over when we're uh done
making cuts and everything
[8:04] else um there are a variety of C that I
had uh looked at and made list so I I
[8:13] looked at our non non-critical things
like Parks or community relations which
[8:18] is usually used for things of dinner
during a budget meeting and uh uh buying
[8:24] a plaque for our city councilors whose
terms ended that kind of thing um those
[8:30] uh those non-critical cuts and I looked
at making or non-critical line items I
[8:34] looked at making about um 10% Cuts just
kind of across the board to those
[8:39] things um let's
see so
[8:46] um would that be is it okay to ask
question would it be things like
[8:50] reimbursing for attending meetings on
behalf of the
[8:55] city that was not identified as a yeah
because I'm still not doing
[9:01] yeah I get it yeah and I know personally
I'm looking at that too I I decided to
[9:06] pay for my own membership in the city's
reporters Association this year um just
[9:10] to take that burden off the city um the
uh what else we got there so those cuts
[9:17] there wasn't a lot that we could do with
that um Act of just kind of taking 10%
[9:22] off that left us with 4100 we could use
um we ended up having a much smaller
[9:27] safe premium this year just kind of
unexpectedly because of I don't remember
[9:32] exactly the reason they gave me but I
just got the the last invoice and they
[9:36] only oh like $350 more dollars and that
means we have 2400 left over that we can
[9:42] use for water so we're going to use it
for
[9:44] water um I wanted to suggest that my
hours get cut to 20 per week from 30
[9:51] between February and March because
during the legislative session I will be
[9:54] working in Salem um last year or this
year I worked 20 hours a week that was
[9:59] one day I spent the capital 30 hours at
sodaville and the other 10 hours I made
[10:02] up working
evenings um so the idea would be that
[10:07] we'd cut it down to 20 I'd be here three
days a week and spend two days a week in
[10:10] the capital from uh mid from March sorry
from February to mid-march um
[10:16] thereabouts um I had also so during this
budget cycle we had also added in
[10:21] funding for a 5% wage increase uh for me
and JD each uh that would have been
[10:26] predicated on a satisfactory performance
review I would wave a a 5% increase
[10:33] during this fiscal year and not ask it
go into effect until July if also were
[10:37] to approve it payroll Cuts leave us with
1,700 that was an additional
[10:44] 1,700 um so Al together with um cuts and
things oh uh so we spent money upfront
[10:51] for our part of our well project when we
got the the water estimate done earlier
[10:56] this year because we paid that UPF front
the state's going to send us money back
[11:01] for that that's
$5,400 um we also have 6,300 in
[11:05] contingency funds so when you add all
that up it gets us to uh
[11:10] $220,000 now next uh we budgeted 10,000
more uh for uh Road repairs uh than the
[11:18] final Aro
amount um so that would have
[11:24] uh I think right now it's at like see
it's
[11:31] it's at 47 or it's at 57 we pull 10 out
of that road repair budget we're still
[11:37] using all of the arpa funds just for
Street repairs um and then we add that
[11:42] so that leaves us with $30,000 so the
final 10 has to come from somewhere now
[11:48] our budget surplus is going to be bigger
than um
[11:52] anticipated so we can do one of two
things and that is either pull the final
[11:57] 10,000 out of our budget surus or pit or
Institute a water increase water rate in
[12:05] increase for of the restrip
SE so those MERS that I up with anybody
[12:12] have any questions so
far no questions but I know where I
[12:17] stand
[12:23] on it's up to you ultimately what I I
want guidance from in the council is
[12:27] what to put in budget that would be
presented at the next meeting and that
[12:33] is something that will be open there
will be a public hearing on the budget
[12:36] and people can come and voice their
concerns again ultimately I want to know
[12:40] tonight uh how do we make up the do we
want to pull from the Surplus or do we
[12:44] want to
increase um the the water rate for
[12:51] usage
Surplus how to make it back
[12:57] but
[13:01] me from a financial perspective it makes
no sense to sell
[13:13] water a
business
[13:18] toble to put it up my brain not working
to um it doesn't make sense to say well
[13:25] this is only going to cost you $5 but it
cost me 15
[13:29] you know as a a make money no that's and
I think that you know are we in this one
[13:36] instance it looks like there's been a
lot of um massaging and working with the
[13:41] numbers and cutting back shoot he is
cold in here to try and make these
[13:46] numbers but now and ongoing does it make
sense for us to continue to sell water
[13:51] when we're having to pay so much for and
we're very blessed that we're not doing
[13:55] a $300 a run like we were before um and
that we have we've done so much we have
[14:01] the water meters that tell us when
there's a week I mean I think we're
[14:04] trying to do everything but you know
we're close to the market this time but
[14:09] I think ongoing we need to reevaluate it
does not make fiduciary Financial sense
[14:14] to continue to sell a product at a lot
less than what we PA for and so I agree
[14:20] with you on that my push back is is that
we've gone all summer and here we are in
[14:25] the fourth quarter and we're going to
slam our citizens with a huge bills for
[14:30] one month right and my thought is I do
think we need a rate increase but I
[14:36] think we need a rate increase on our on
the city's water so that we're making
[14:40] the
money before we go into restrictions so
[14:44] that we have that money in reserve to
make these because I I don't know if you
[14:48] ATS
but you know I mean our bill would
[14:52] jumped over
$300 um and so like I get it but for one
[14:58] month to get hit with that 9 cents I'd
be okay like doing a
[15:04] five like a three five moving on up it's
not quite the
[15:10] n i mean to
immediately that's where I'm at like for
[15:16] this fourth quarter it's almost like
because of I'm useally of our
[15:20] mismanagement I don't think our citizens
should be held accountable here at the
[15:25] last minute this is something we should
have been addressing
[15:29] especially the PO water users I when the
Restriction started and I think of the
[15:35] penalty and that's that's my opinion I
agree with you good business is not
[15:40] selling stuff for cheaper than you
bought of course but you also don't do
[15:44] that at the last minute to people so
that's kind of where I stand I'm will to
[15:49] negotiate do where we're at to come up
with that but I just think he need to
[15:55] for next season you need to make some
some differ
[16:12] what I didn't
[16:14] realize and then we manipulate the
[16:27] te you look at our overall water rate 31
most expensive you know in the state you
[16:34] know cuz I have looked at it and you
know
[16:37] most bring you know and you
know yeah so you know if you look at
[16:46] just bone water were you top of the top
of the lift right so yeah I what really
[16:54] bothers me is that you know we've been
trying to tackle this water issue for a
[16:59] number of years before a lot of other
communities were having the same
[17:03] issue um we've had opportunities to try
to take care of it I mean even since
[17:08] Alex has been here we've been trying to
get this thing resolved and we're not
[17:13] much further along than where we've been
right so that's my biggest issue is that
[17:18] you know this is something that we
should have
[17:21] done a little sooner than where we're at
right now and to dena's point and your
[17:27] point too that 9
cents um I don't think it's going for
[17:32] the last month right as you said um I
think this is considering going forward
[17:38] this this last December is not really
going to make that much of a difference
[17:41] for us so you know I mean I don't think
that was the intent right so the figure
[17:49] of uh that we used came up with $7,500
per month while this is in place we
[17:56] could get an additional $7,500 per month
uh in uh water Revenue if we moved up to
[18:03] 9,000 to9 cents per gallon and then the
idea would be after two months of that
[18:08] um we would be uh at
15,000 um in addition to we already
[18:14] budgeted for 2023 and first part of 2024
that's correct so we'd look at it this
[18:20] month and probably in January um because
it's very possible that you know the
[18:25] wells as well as I read this correctly
that there's only uh one person that's
[18:33] going over that right now so right yeah
so that uh data did not end up being
[18:39] Fleet so I I put together those numbers
four days four days before um the end of
[18:45] the month so that Monday the Meers were
read and then that Thursday the Meers
[18:49] were read and in that that last four
days a number of people did end up going
[18:53] over 7500 in that that that short window
of
[18:59] they were close I like H they're
probably okay but then in those last
[19:02] three days they just just Bunch so um I
think it ended up being more like
[19:08] 10 but the N for is anybody over 5,000
right yeah and this is basically in
[19:15] response to the community saying don't
shut off our water and it's like as long
[19:20] as we have access to water you know if
we get closer to what we're actually
[19:23] having to pay for it that makes sense
and fairness to me this affect 20% of
[19:30] City
[19:32] users and I you know
I about my own budget that I've had in
[19:37] my businesses at home I hate to take
reserves because what if I mean that
[19:41] that kind of you know what reserves do
we have if the tree falls on the council
[19:47] thingy here and we need to fix it I I
think it's important to have Reserve
[19:52] funds we don't know what's going to
happen so to use those for the water
[19:57] makes me worried
yeah um by the end of November we had
[20:02] spent more on water hauling than in
total we received in water Revenue so
[20:07] all the money that's supposed to come in
to pay for everything else in the water
[20:10] programming all of it has gone to water
hauling and we've had to M from
[20:15] elsewhere to pay for stuff it is it is a
true imbalance because there's we've
[20:20] simply just spent more money on water
hauling and we brought in to pay for
[20:23] what wanted to get here and as a result
a lot of other things are going to have
[20:26] to be cut because that top 2 TI of users
just is not reducing their water usage
[20:32] by as
much we're luy that we can bring water
[20:37] in because I forget which which cities
it starts with an
[20:41] H that I mean they're capped and that's
it right I don't know which
[20:48] one I think that we have that and you
know some of us are really crazy when it
[20:54] comes to to trying to watch water not
not everybody is
[20:59] yes yeah I know next year we can be
smarter about this um 22 to 23 ended up
[21:06] being a very very nice fiscal year for
us because we budgeted 60 and we only
[21:10] spent 35 so we figured okay with increas
in conservation we got these no water
[21:15] meters that are doing better 60 doesn't
seem like a bad number to keep up with
[21:19] next year we're going to write a war
budget that budget is going to be
[21:22] prepared to take on something this big
um what we're going to have to do is
[21:27] negotiate over year with a water H and
figure out how much she wants to have
[21:32] received for her services and then we
the budget accordingly we increase the
[21:36] amount of Revenue we can expect uh and
we increase the amount of money as a
[21:41] result of the new rate that comes in um
there are other things we'll do to make
[21:46] sure um things get done a little better
but nothing we can do about Mother
[21:51] Nature no not really um we did have a
meeting with our state representative
[21:56] Jamie Kate um last week and we let her
know about the problem we're having
[22:01] right now and we asked if she would be
willing to work with us to get $60,000
[22:05] for us to use next year for water
hauling since we're uh hopefully on
[22:08] track to get the the new will uh
completed by the summer of 2025
[22:14] basically if everything goes right we
have just one more year of this and then
[22:18] we don't have to worry about it
again so where do they phon from the
[22:25] federal government and are they pretty
much I mean how do they have to be used
[22:32] what's structure it oh there's a a
massive list of projects you can use
[22:37] that for um we use part of it to pay for
a new PLC and the rest of it we're going
[22:42] to use for RO repairs
maintenance there's like a hundred
[22:47] different things you can use it for not
water um they want infrastructure is
[22:53] kind of the the thrust of
it um I I could look on the list to see
[22:59] if they would allow us to use it for um
water huling during the fiscal year but
[23:05] during the budget cycle this year we you
we decided to have the rest of the ARA
[23:09] funds be used for stre repair so I
[23:26] I
yeah yeah it's a very long list one of
[23:31] them is cash assistance like you can
literally just give it out everybody in
[23:36] get of the 45 left
[23:43] see yeah everybody
get there we go every city resident
[23:49] would get
$127
[23:55] 12 we can fix thead
yeah so making sure that we do dedicate
[24:02] money to roads is pretty important it's
next to
[24:07] water yeah so there are a lot of other
structural changes I would be recommend
[24:13] that we make to the budget next year um
we've been kind of working off one
[24:19] that's has been used for several years
that wasn't using the best data and
[24:23] didn't really reflect I think um the
best possible use of the funds we were
[24:28] getting so next year you can expect the
budget that I I produced to be a lot
[24:34] different than we have now um to make
sure there is much more dedicated
[24:38] funding for roads and uh water funds are
a lot more closely tied to the actual
[24:44] water Revenue because our old general
fund revenue is kind of backfilling
[24:48] everything else we do and especially
right now our reserves have really been
[24:52] paying for everything because uh we have
been spending more money in the water
[24:56] than we have been bringing for
[25:13] everybody in there's a lot of people
that for a long time have really been
[25:19] concerned and so I hate to see these
people take another hit you know some of
[25:25] the people that are used in 10,000 gall
water they're the ones that are putting
[25:29] us
in they're the ones that are cusing so
[25:33] much
water you you know I think back when we
[25:37] did the
last we been on top things we looked
[25:56] at
[26:09] a percent like but we
didn't so we're
[26:21] just and
[26:25] so I mean I agree with you
Jeff I just don't know
[26:34] um by the ones that never slowed down
using water I'm sure we all agree
[26:41] because know my did struggle to try to
make it count where we could you
[26:56] knower and I get two and a half gallons
as I'm trying to get water water in my
[27:00] shower and then I go and I water my
critters or I put it in my rain I take
[27:05] my my
[27:09] water TR and water I know not everybody
does we had some
[27:26] com
[27:41] a little
[27:51] B It's
[27:55] amazing And also it doesn't change much
but the n
[28:02] on that last
[28:08] mon yeah each month Ray
hold another
[28:13] day like
in AUST
[28:19] 3 10 days in AUST 11 in November orry
not September 11 in November
[28:33] 12 one day exra East so like that 9
cents is over the last month so like we
[28:39] can't it's like a generic number if this
month that water goes
[28:43] up we're not
paying when I went to the city pretty
[28:48] much base is I didn't
get know we got
[28:56] 125 paying
$548 for
[29:00] 7448 gallons so that's pretty much we're
paying uh
[29:06] $20 roughly to fill ra truck up per run
and he's charging
[29:12] two it's going to be 3 148
148 like 320 something so we're at
[29:21] $350 per run you know so every every two
hours 350 bucks like if we to
[29:29] recalculate this at a true one truck
load what are we paying it's hard to
[29:35] calculate the base rate because that
base rate gets divided up by how many
[29:39] truck loads you run but uh I think more
accurate number I think we should do if
[29:44] we're going to raise it on people is
what's a bank rate on one truck load
[29:48] because the truck loads are going to
fluctuate per
[29:53] month at the same time I want money but
it's kind of like at the end of the game
[29:59] not to reiterate what I said earlier
like now we're an emergency and like all
[30:03] citizens to out you know
[30:11] and yeah for sure I don't know how we
how we approach that that's why I P from
[30:18] Surplus and or even streets I mean we
can pull
[30:23] another streets I don't think there's
another CH Street
[30:29] I was I was curious that you earlier you
said talked about Surplus and you had an
[30:33] idea for where else to get it I'm just
thinking somehow of how we can
[30:40] maximize move forward to make the money
on own water you know right now we're
[30:52] at8 and JD recommends 89 for the second
tier has jum that 50
[31:00] bucks we something in the
middle I think
[31:05] ients gallon from 2500 to
[31:13] 5,000 but it
[31:16] gets I I guess I don't understand I mean
I when you're when you're talking
[31:23] about that's the actual product itself
yeah
[31:28] they they sell it by a unit so 748
gallons per unit so that's
[31:34] $548 Tru rough 4500
4000 400
[31:40] whatever 400 or times right so five
times that that's $30 per truck but
[31:48] calculating r on top of that yeah which
you know anything it would be nice to
[31:53] pay the wholesale just the product rate
for anything look at all the taxes and
[31:58] all the stuff I mean I think the
following first of all we're a heck of a
[32:02] lot better than we have been as far as
rates because drought or whatever was
[32:07] hea and we're not having to pay
insurance or the vehicle or the P I mean
[32:12] I don't think it's exactly good to
compare the actual cost of the liquid
[32:18] water versus what it
cost our water bill this month and
[32:23] totally just the actual water is
2000
[32:32] r with us what if R doesn't next year
and we make this adjustment for the 9
[32:36] cents now going into next season and
then that rates even higher and we find
[32:40] ourselves in in a predicament
of know czy happens you
[32:48] know go up prices go we just
adjusted for that and then we're going
[32:55] into adjust again
um
[33:00] that's don't that makes sense and that's
why our the budget that we write for
[33:05] this next fiscal year is going to be
done uh with planning for basically this
[33:09] to happen again it's not going to be hey
let's hope that you know 60,000 or
[33:13] whatever let's hope that you know we get
the money uh unless I see the money in
[33:18] hand before the budget is written we're
not going to plan on getting any support
[33:23] and we are going to plan on this
happening again and we are going to make
[33:27] sure that we have enough water Revenue
coming in to pay for the water hauling
[33:31] without digging into our reserves and
that's going to involve necessarily
[33:35] earlier negotiations with Ray uh making
sure we know what his number is going to
[33:40] be and being prepared to charge that in
the fall letting people know very early
[33:44] it's going to be a lot more expensive
this last year we have to do this um you
[33:49] need to plan for it now or you need to
plan for just using L water because uh
[33:55] the money is not going to be there and
we can't keep keeping into reserves year
[33:58] after year because that's how you lose
all your reserves well that's not what
[34:02] I'm
suggest temporary thing to get back on
[34:08] so that we can adjust I just don't want
to make a hasty reaction 9 like I'm not
[34:14] okay with this but you were saying that
9 cents you don't feel comfortable with
[34:19] but if we do 9 cents it might be more
next year well what I'm saying jump stra
[34:30] increase
on so right
[34:35] now
[34:40] is so that would jump to 3 be 31 5000
[34:50] to5
[34:55] more
[34:59] 12,000
gallons what is more money people it's
[35:06] not you as hard but you're making more
[35:11] money
between but they're the most population
[35:15] of the city yeah I mean
80% water why are they getting the
[35:21] discount and then the
people that some have a larger family
[35:26] you like in it I guess what I'm saying
is we're in it together you know instead
[35:30] of just hitting those next years like we
all got to bite the bullet needed we're
[35:35] not changing the base rate at 47 just
those next one
[35:42] what
Char
[35:52] the
[35:55] people
[36:05] there to help out City so I don't want
my to jump when I've put that
[36:20] I L restrictions over I think that they
need to be at a higher rate
[36:34] that we using you know 10,000 plus
gallons during our
[36:38] restriction
Ian yeah I think even when we were
[36:43] watering our Gard in the summer time we
never went over 10 but probably help but
[36:47] I mean that's six raised beds by 15t
long and to not use over 10 um I was
[36:54] surprised though we're right a seven
we have a
[36:58] household so like I don't know we're
like right there at thege I guess get
[37:03] water shut off every
month I at my bill
[37:21] every advant or good idea to figure from
The Geto are we charging enough water
[37:27] for water I we've
been up that whatever we did 45 to
[37:34] 47 is that a reasonable Fair number if
we didn't have a disaster and everything
[37:40] went well and people is that fair and I
don't know that we can we can compare
[37:46] ourselves with every other City because
we're very we have no income otherwise
[37:50] we don't have a lot of business it's
funny Hy was telling me Oh we're just
[37:53] like sods I'm driving doy and all these
[38:02] like
school well the school's actually
[38:06] significantly cut down their water usage
and they're looking at alternative water
[38:11] sources for their campus getting a
sister and that kind of thing so as as
[38:15] I've talked with them they're they're
already making some very drastic changes
[38:19] they're they're cut since we let them
know last month like this is getting
[38:24] really bad they cut almost 50% of us so
[38:51] should
[38:54] on the thing
still s with me
[39:23] is understand that we're trying to
keep
[39:31] keep we have any
Realty go
[39:41] Downy
[39:50] of the
one resident that you made deal with
[39:56] yeah um did he pay truck price yeah
p00 gallon he cut his bill like almost
[40:04] in half after that first month sticker
sh
[40:06] like
[40:14] so know it's not me to it's me to be
real and it motivat you to St and you
[40:21] know restrict yourself that's better
same with you know gas going to have a
[40:25] gas are you going to have something that
doesn't that's your choice if you want
[40:29] to pay for again as long as we have
access to
[40:33] water wants to pay for it I think that's
much Kinder and better than stop you can
[40:40] AFF
[40:46] it you
know one the citiz helping us out you
[40:51] know with this thing but I
mean is that
[41:03] [Music]
[41:22] something
Grand I wouldn't think so I don't
[41:34] know truck that's
[41:38] cost I for 12 years truck
[41:53] [Music]
iost
[41:57] well we we this is this these are like
the com he might not have time SCH now
[42:02] but if he becomes a driver we have extra
day to a sh which means have to pay more
[42:06] but in the long
[42:15] run he runs three days a week other
[42:23] days we' supped we've been hauling water
for 20
[42:28] years we've been spending 60 plus Grand
a year on water for 20 years add that up
[42:35] you can't tell me that not owning the
city own own truck want to pay for
[42:39] already or you buy the TRU and
[42:55] you
[43:04] un
lot a lot
[43:19] more that
[43:25] happen2 we spent
$85,000
[43:37] water and and you know I'm a real know
that I'm really really praying hoping
[43:44] twisting everything that reaches that we
actually get everything taken care of in
[43:47] 2025 and Okie
[43:55] doie you know I'm hoping that we just
have another year of waterf that would
[44:00] be
[44:12] [Music]
[44:15] awesome yes well we we had to spend a
lot of time fixing stuff from the
[44:25] past
[44:32] well you're going to see the work plan
presented by business Oregon at the next
[44:35] city council meeting our business Oregon
and our leg Council have provided us
[44:39] information about the best way to move
forward and how they expect it to be
[44:43] done you know the the very first thing
we need to do is get a surveyor on
[44:47] retainer and get him in room ra but two
of them can talk about just how much of
[44:52] you know his property is going to be
used they can write a legal scrip
[44:55] subcription for an easement Bear's a
purchase option and then um then we can
[45:01] actually go okay um and then you know we
did a good chunk of the money that we've
[45:07] secured this year that about million
dollar amount is um for project
[45:11] management and Engineering so we'll have
a professional in the room who knows how
[45:15] to get this done done
before um
[45:21] so you we're on track
to uh get a lot of this done we just
[45:28] need to make sure that we're sticking
with the plan and that plan is something
[45:30] that business Argan and our Council both
laid out in the last month and we will
[45:35] lay that out publicly in December so we
know here's what is expected of us here
[45:39] is how much money there is um here's the
pieces that fit together I mean I I
[45:45] totally feel and understand the
frustration from the community this is
[45:49] the whole reason I'm on city council is
when I moved here seven years ago and
[45:54] they said you're going to get tiet
[45:58] come to find out restrictions I had no
idea when I purchased my property
[46:04] c 25 years what I mean I didn't find out
about this until work you bought you
[46:24] guys
[46:43] yeah so um aside from 30,000 in cuts and
other things how do we want to make up
[46:51] the last 10 that's ultimately what I
need to hear from everybody today do we
[46:55] want to
um do we want to pull from Surplus do we
[46:59] want to move it up to 9 cents per gallon
uh for everything above 5,000 do we want
[47:05] to use a different number in structure
Al together as has been presented and
[47:11] [Music]
[47:17] proposed
[47:24] okay well
[47:28] yeah
okay
[47:33] so with all of the cuts and everything
that leaves us with an end of the year
[47:39] cash balance of
64,000
[47:44] so
um and that is with
[47:50] um with a 10,000 just pulling it from
the Surplus so if we don't pull from the
[47:55] Surplus it'll be 74,000 if we do BU from
the Surplus it'll be
[47:59] 64,000 the thing that worries me too is
our infastructure old yes you know all
[48:04] we need is a couple really big water M
breaks or you know something like
[48:09] that or hopefully
[48:17] we
[48:24] system
[48:34] and I brought this up earlier a little
bit
[48:40] to want to check before we do anything
on cutting your time um my my frame
[48:48] reference is always only another state
so I have no idea but the state if you
[48:52] cut somebody's time you have to cut
their
[48:56] um and stuff so I just don't want us to
step onto that anything so yeah make
[49:03] sure before I mean it's a great offer of
yours I mean it benefits you and it
[49:06] benefits the but I would make sure that
we're on track for that yeah that makes
[49:13] sense okay yeah I can check with our
accountant to see if she knows of
[49:17] anything that would affect payroll and
[49:24] benefit see what what might be a problem
[49:34] not
[49:42] yeah well I really I I don't like the
idea of of going into the budget so but
[49:48] I
think oh sorry till the end of the year
[49:51] cash balance uh if we make all these
cuts that I recommended would
[49:56] 6,200 and that includes using 10,000 for
water so not 64
[50:15] 6,200 um you know there's we will be
exercising fiscal restraints to to
[50:23] through the end of the year um you know
for our 23 through
[50:28] um remember the for 22 through 23 are
projected ending fund balance was $
[50:35] 66,6 our actual balance was
206,000 um which is why we're able to
[50:42] rework our budget like this so I I think
a a much higher number than 60 is
[50:48] realistic as long as we exercise fiscal
restraint and if there is a revenue
[50:53] increase throughout the year I think
that is
[50:59] doing again I I don't like the idea of
taking out of our Surplus for La of a
[51:04] better word but I could see for this
time only since it's the end of the year
[51:10] I want to be conent and Fa and
transparent but it's only month or so to
[51:16] maybe have a less than but I think
ongoing we need ham down on these rates
[51:21] especially for high users
yeah
[51:26] yeah I mean dur even when um last fiscal
year um water the end of water hauling
[51:33] and the end of water restrictions
weren't the same period I think we water
[51:38] restriction for like a month or two
after we stopped hauling just water
[51:41] wasn't producing we just weren't in the
the range where we needed to bring the
[51:46] bu
so if we're if we're keeping it open for
[51:50] another couple months and it's at 9
cents you know that helps recoup the the
[51:55] costs
from uh the water hauling that resulted
[51:59] from these high
[52:09] users 7500 is the killer I think the
that spot because um it has been a
[52:17] little more difficult to enforce than
anticipating um you know given again
[52:22] like this last month last week a bunch
of people are below and buch um
[52:34] and
um yeah that that 7500 plus is
[52:40] still one that's you know working a lot
of money for
[52:44] us so in the inter term in the short
term period um we had basically put it
[52:51] out there that you know 7500 was a cap
you to you know do
[52:55] um permit and see you know if there was
a right to but see there
[53:01] was um you know but then we talk about
5,000 on this which is double what the
[53:08] base Rak pays for that's you know but
the average family I'm thinking out loud
[53:13] probably uses closer to maybe 4,000
5,000 I think definitely the 7500
[53:21] maybe stuff out there maybe do it the 7
500 and um 9 and then we sit and we
[53:30] reate
[53:54] the
there are alternatives you know if
[53:57] somebody's really worried about you know
taking showers you can get a gym
[53:59] membership for $25 a month go take a
[54:24] shower
[54:28] be
[54:33] R I think you know because some people
work and they get here to do their
[54:40] permit
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[54:44] andate
[54:47] over5 everybody who went over 7500 this
last month was mailed a permit so they
[54:52] can fill it out and give it to us but
that permit does what 60 bucks well
[54:59] yeah what the cost of water is that that
perm came in just so you could wash your
[55:05] car
[55:09] durri I think that needs to go away and
I think it's 7500 for the people who
[55:14] want I mean you pay to play if you want
to use that much water awesome you're
[55:24] just
[1:23:25] we
[1:23:38] go