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Good evening everyone and welcome to the
virtual public meeting for the US 202

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and Route 179 roundabout project.
My name is Nathan Parish and I am the

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PennDOT project manager. We also have
with us members of the design team

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including Martin Ziminy who is the
project manager and Andrew Thomas uh a

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transportation engineer. Uh supporting
them at Kier's engineering is also HDR

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ad Marble and Malakin shear.
If you have a question for today's

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meeting please use the Q&A feature
located in the top of your screen. You

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can include the slide number when
submitting your questions.

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For today's meeting, we will cover the
project timeline, uh review the project

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purpose, talk about roundabouts, review
safety considerations and the project

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area. We'll cover the proposed design
and operations. We'll have an

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environmental overview and a traffic
simulation of the roundabout. We'll then

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talk on construction staging and the
project schedule and then wrap up with

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questions and answers.

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So this is a brief uh timeline for the
project.

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Uh in 2020, Sbury Township completed a
study of the US 202 corridor and

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identified potential improvements. any
roundabout was identified as one of

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those improvements at the US 202 and 179
intersection that led PennDOT to

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starting preliminary engineering in the
spring of 2023.

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We are targeting fall 2026 for starting
final design and then construction

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starting in the spring of 2028.
With that, I'll turn it over to Martin

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to run through more of the project
details.

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All right, thanks Nate.
Me get my video on.

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All right, so our project location is up
here in Soulbury Township. It's at the

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multi-point intersection of US 202,
which also known as Lower York Road and

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Route 179, also known as West Bridge
Street and Kitchen Lane.

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The uh projects located in Sbury
Township within Bucks County.

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And now here's a general overview map of
the project area. The project area is a

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triangle of the three routes with US
202, Route 179, and Kitchen Lane.

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The intersections currently signalized
with two stop controlled access ramps.

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And this intersection is a major
junction point along US 202 which

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connects Pennsylvania communities to New
Jersey communities.

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Route 179 West Bridge Street is also a
minor arterial between US 202 and the

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town in New Hope. Uh the intersection
also accommodates students commuting on

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school buses to New Hope Soulbury School
District approximately 3/4 of a mile to

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the east of our project.
The total intersection ADT is

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approximately 24,000 vehicles per day.
You can see the various directional

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vehicle and truck traffic data on the
slide as currently shown. Uh the posted

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speeds in the area currently 45 mph
along US 202 and 35 mph along Route 179

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and Kitchen Lane.

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And due to the presence of several
deficiencies and high traffic volumes,

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the existing intersection experiences
severe congestion and safety issues

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during the peak hours and also during
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Shown here is an image from the 2007
DVRPC corridor study showing existing

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and proposed bicycle and trail networks.

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You can see inside the circle for a
zoomedin view of the network map.

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Soulbury Township recently constructed a
new portion of the gateway trail from

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Sugan Road down to Kitchen Lane and
coordination with Soulbury Township is

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ongoing regarding the preferred
alignment and location of the gateway

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trail through the project limits.

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Back to our overview map,
you can see how the proposed bicycle

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network shows going through the project
area. Solid orange line to the right of

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the image is the recently constructed
trail. The dashed orange line shows the

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overall proposed trail location, most of
which which exists from Logan Square to

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just north of the recently constructed
assisted living center.

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And later in the presentation, Andrew
will show where the roundabout project

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is able to add trails, sidewalks, and
crossings for future connections to

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township facilities.

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Now over to Andrew.

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» Thanks, Martin. Thanks, [clears throat]
Nate.

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» So
on this slide, we're focusing on the

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main purpose of the project. This
intersection currently experiences

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significant congestion and delay
particularly during the peak travel

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times. We have found that these issues
are driven by a few key factors. First,

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there are operational deficiencies,
meaning the way traffic moves through

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the intersection today isn't very
efficient due to signal timing, turning

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movements, and conflicting traffic.
Second, there are geometric constraints.

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The roadway configuration limits how
traffic can move through the area and

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makes it difficult to accommodate
current traffic demands effectively.

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Third, there are safety and capacity
gaps. The intersection is handling more

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traffic than it was originally designed
for, which can increase both delay and

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potential for conflicts.
You'll also notice that pedestrian

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facilities are limited. There aren't
many safe and convenient options for

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walking through the area today, which is
something we're looking to improve as

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part of this project.
On the right side of the slide, we're

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showing existing Q lengths. The colored
lines represent how far vehicles

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typically back up during peak
conditions, which you can see Q's extend

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well beyond the intersection on US 202
and Route 179, reinforcing the

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operational challenges that currently
exist at this location.

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On this slide focuses on the recent
crash history at the US 202 and Route

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179 intersection. Over the most recent
5-year period from 2020 to 2024, there

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were a total of 10 reported crashes. A
key takeaway is that the majority 80% of

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these were Anglo crashes involving
turning vehicles.

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And 80% of these crashes were not
related to weather or environmental

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factors, which suggests that the primary
cause are tied to the intersection's

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design and operations.
In addition to the crashes at the

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intersection itself, there were four
rear end crashes and one additional

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angle crash along northbound US 202 just
south of the intersection. These are

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like likely related to congestion and Q
spillback where vehicles are stopping

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unexpectedly and causing conflicts.
Overall, this crash history highlights

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existing safety concerns particularly
related to turning movements and

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congestion.

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Why a roundabout? Roundabouts relieve
congestion and modal tension. Unlike

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traditional signalized intersections,
roundabouts keep traffic moving

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continuously, which reduces delays and
improves travel times.

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Roundabouts also improve accessibility
and connectivity for all users,

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including motorists, pedestrians, and
bicyclists, and trail users.

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Roundabouts also include a focus on
safety. They are proven to reduce both

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the number and severity of crashes
because they naturally slow vehicle

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speeds as drivers enter and move through
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Roundabouts also reduce the type of
crashes that tend to cause the most

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serious injuries, specifically head-on
and right angle collisions.

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I'll pass it back to you.

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» All right. Thanks. So to continue this
discussion on why a roundabout

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uh we can talk about the fact that
roundabouts are a FHWA proven safety

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counter measure and they address items
in PENDOT strategic highway safety plan

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and per the graphic on the right per the
[snorts] 24 2024 PENDOT study on 47

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roundabouts the roundabout conversion
projects resulted in crashes involving

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injuries being reduced by 51%
with a total number of crashes dropping

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by 7%.
Also of note that 46 other roundabouts

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have been installed on state routes and
our additional data will be soon

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available.

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So, roundabouts versus traffic circles.
You can see the differences

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in the slide above shown regarding how
roundabouts differ from traffic circles.

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Roundabouts have a a yield at entry
rule, whereas

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entering traffic at traffic circles may
interfere with circulating traffic.

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Second line down, we have entering
traffic at roundabouts is deflected

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slowly around the central island or as
traffic circles have inconsistent entry

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designs and may allow for higher speed
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Third line down. Roundabout flares
increase capacity at intersections where

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capacity is needed the most, whereas
traffic circles may have poor entry

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conditions and may not benefit from
flare layouts.

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So, in addition to the roundabout
benefits listed on the left,

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as far as slower speeds go, that equals
more time to make decisions, act and

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react.
It is includes less complicated

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situations to interpret.
It reduces the need to judge closing

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speeds and gaps in fast traffic.

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And regarding the severity index graphic
shown on the right, as your speeds

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increase, the likelihood of pedestrians
surviving a collision decreases.

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From the 90%
survival rate at a 20 mph impact speed,

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this drops down to a 20% survival rate
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So here we'll show a graphic from Utah
DOT about conflict points. A conflict

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point is a location where road users
paths intersect.

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The number and type of conflicts
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safety performance. A traditional
intersection has a total of 32 conflict

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in conflict points, whereas translation
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24 of those and it only has eight
conflict points due to the one or the uh

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one way.

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And a roundabout builds around the most
severe conflict points by removing those

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severe crashes such as T-bones and
head-on collisions.

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Now we can talk about the pedestrian
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Crosswalks are set back [snorts] one car
length from the roundabout.

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This separates conflicts between the
cars and the pedestrians. [snorts]

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Roundabouts allow drivers to focus on
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separately.
First yielding to the pedestrians and

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then focusing on the circulating
traffic.

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And roundabouts also allow pedestrians
to cross if there is cued traffic.

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Another design element that improves the
safety of the intersection we want to

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highlight is intersection lighting. As
part of the pendant policy, it's

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recommended to illuminate roundabout
intersections. The lighting is proposed

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to highlight the key features of the
roundabout, the entries, the exits,

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pedestrian crossings, and circulating
traffic.

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The lighting is directed toward the
roadway and is contained within the

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footprint of the roadway with minimal
lighting to the surrounding properties.

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So, as you can see in the photograph,
this is an example of an illuminated

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intersection and crosswalks to improve
pedestrian visibility at night.

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And as our design progresses into final
design, design team will coordinate with

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the township and PennDOT to discuss
lighting preferences for pole and

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mounting types and specifications.
This allows the project to install

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lighting that would be consistent for
the area and for the future development.

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Now we want to show a map of the
surrounding area and a couple of

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roundabouts with similar context to this
one. So our project is lo located

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highlighted in blue.
Recently constructed roundabouts are

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shown in purple. These include the Eastn
Road roundabout near Doyle Town,

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Doylestown and the Porcher Road
roundabout near Quakertown.

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Some roundabouts in design in the area
are shown in green. This includes the US

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202 in York Road roundabout south of our
project in Buckingham Township and the

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Mincy Trail roundabout near Dublin.
Now pass back over to Andrew to talk

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about the proposed design.

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Thanks Martin. [clears throat]
Now let's get into the proposed design

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of the project. First, let's take a look
at the existing conditions for the area.

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Again, on the right, we see the
signalized intersection of US 202, Route

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179, and Kitchen Lane. On the left, we
see the signalized intersection of US

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202 drive and Logan Square Shopping
Center.

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Now, here's a overall proposed design
from a highle aerial view. The first

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portion is the full reconstruction of
the 2021 179 intersection shown within

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the yellow circle. Now let's focus on
the roundabout. Now

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this slide provides a closer look at the
intersection configuration at US 202

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Route 179 Kitchen Lane. As shown here,
the current layout is somewhat complex

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and can be confusing for drivers,
particularly for those unfamiliar with

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the area.
From a safety standpoint, the existing

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layout creates numerous conflict points,
including crossing and left turn

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movements that are typically associated
with the more severe crashes.

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Overall, this existing configuration and
the congestion/confusion

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creates it creates is one of the primary
reasons improvements are being proposed

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at this location.
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we're showing the proposed design for
the intersection. The project proposes

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construction of a four-legg single lane
roundabout.

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The goal of this design is to improve
traffic operations, reduce delays, and

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address safety concerns we discussed in
the previous slides.

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One important feature of the US 202 is
the US 202 northbound bypass lane to

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direct traffic towards New Hope without
entering the roundabout, which helps

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reduce congestion and keep traffic
flowing more efficiently.

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The project includes opportunities for
landscaping within the center island,

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which will be mounted to obstruct sight
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This can help create a gateway feel
while also reinforcing the roundabout

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layer layout for drivers.
The design also accounts for Soulbury

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Township's proposed gateway trail
connection

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which supports better multimodal
connectivity through the corridor. The

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graphic also highlights bicycle ramps on
the route 179 and kitchen lane legs

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which provides a transition for
bicyclist to choose between entering the

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roundabout or the sidewalks or shared
use path.

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Lastly, the design includes proposed
rain gardens and bioils which are the

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dark green areas
which are intended to help manage storm

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water runoff from the project area while
providing a more attractive roadside

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environment.

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How did this footprint come about? As
part of roundabout design, one of the

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main design features is establishing
your design vehicle, which is a large

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vehicle that is likely to utilize the
intersection and ensure that the design

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can handle it within the curve to curve
footprint.

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In this graphic, you will see a few of
the turning templates that the the

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design team has generated to ensure that
the footprint accommodates all

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movements.
The key feature here is the truck apron

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around the center island. The truck
apron is a mountable area designed

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specifically for the rear wheels of
larger vehicles. Passenger vehicles are

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expected to stay within the normal
circulating roadway. This allows the

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roundabout to remain compact enough to
slow passenger vehicles while still

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providing enough space for trucks and
other large vehicles to navigate the

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intersection.
As we advance to final design, we would

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like public input on any unique design
vehicles that may need to utilize the

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intersection. Should you know of any,
please submit this when you fill out the

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comment card on the project website so
it can be documented and reviewed by

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Pendot and the design team.

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And back to you, Martin.

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All right, thanks Andrew.
So now let's discuss the Q lengths and

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the intersection improvements within the
proposed roundabout and the northbound

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bypass lane to Route 179.
On this slide, we're looking at the

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expected operational benefits of the
proposed improvements. [snorts] The

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tables show Q lengths in feet and
intersection delay in seconds during the

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AM and PM peak hours for the existing
condition and for both the future 2050

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no build and build conditions.
The orange box shows marked reductions

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in all Q lengths except for a slight
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largest reduction being US 202
northbound going from 265 feet down to

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75 ft in the AM and from 219 ft to 60 ft
in the PM. And even though the US 202

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southbound PMQ increases slightly, the
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from 215 seconds down to 16 seconds.
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decreases from 90 seconds down to 8
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So, initially the proposed roundabout
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202 northbound to Route 179, which is
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increased delay in Q lengths if not
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and analysis indicates that the addition
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the Route 179 bypass lane traffic
substantially reduces delay and Q

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lengths and improves operations through
the roundabout and at the Logan Square

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Shy Drive intersection. So, as a result,
the striping and lane usage from Logan

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Square Shrive intersection up to the
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leads us to the next slide.

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Go ahead, Andrew.
>> Thanks, Mark. So, now we're back out to

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the zoomed out aerial view from earlier.
The yellow oval highlights the portion

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of US 202 at the SH Drive, Logan Square
signalized intersection. This area is

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outside of the main roundabout
reconstruction limits, but is still part

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of the overall operational improvements.

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Now we are zoomed into that yellow oval
area. This slide shows the existing

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traffic pattern in this section of the
corridor. Today, northbound US 202

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operates with one through lane, while
southbound US 202 has two through lanes

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through the intersection before merging
back down to one shortly after the

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intersection.
On the bottom right side of the graphic

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shows the newly constructed assisted
living facility, which includes

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designated right turn lanes to serve new
access points.

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Now we're showing the proposed striping
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This intent is to provide two northbound
lanes from SH Drive Logan Square

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intersection toward the proposed
roundabout. This helps feed traffic more

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efficiently into the northbound bypass
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To fit these improvements within the
existing roadway width, the southbound

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direction of US 202 will be reduced from
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this section.
The design still maintains the necessary

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turning lanes in both directions. So
access to the side streets and adjacent

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properties is preserves.

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Back to you, man.
All right, talking about operations for

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this portion of the project.
In this slide, we're looking at the

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expected operational benefits of the
proposed improvements.

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The table show the Q lengths in feet and
intersection delay in seconds during the

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AM and PM peak hours for the existing
condition and for both the future 2050

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no build and build conditions. [snorts]
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shows the changes in Q lengths at the
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Primary focus here was to reduce the
very large US 2022 northbound Q lengths

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in both the AM and PM periods. [snorts]
Notice that the US 202 northbound Q

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lengths goes from 1,045 down to 366 ft
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in the PM. This is largely due to the
change over to two lanes northbound, one

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lane southbound. Through this portion of
the project, all Q lengths drop except

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for US 202 southbound, which increases
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overall, intersection delay drops
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increases slightly in the PM.

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So as far as environmental goes, of
course, PENDOT is following the NEPA

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process for the National Environmental
Protection Agency.

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As far as key features and importance
notes here, uh we have two unnamed

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tributaries, one at the north and one at
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project does not impact Aquaton Creek.
As far as wetlands go, no wetlands were

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identified within the project limits.
And flood planes, there are no flood

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plane impacts.

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Regarding the Soulberry Gateway Trail,
the project results in a

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section 4F deminimous use to the
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As a result of the project,
portions of the trail will require

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relocation.
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incorporated into the Pendot project and
[snorts] the project will not adversely

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impact the trails recreational features
and coordination with Soulbury Township

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is ongoing.
This meeting is seeking comment from the

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public on the project's use of the trail
and the potential temporary closure of a

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portion of the trail while it's
realigned.

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Now we're going to show a simulation of
the proposed roundabout design.

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Keep in mind though that the simulation
run is at a slightly increased playback

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speed.
So actual speeds approaching and through

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the roundabout will be posted and
regulated for 25 milesPH.

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The video is intended to help visualize
how traffic would move through the

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intersection during the PM peak 15minute
period. Vehicles will enter the

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roundabout at lower speeds. They'll
yield to circulating traffic and

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continue through to the desired exit
leg.

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A key feature to watch is the northbound
bypass lane. This allows that movement

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to avoid entering the roundabout and the
bypass lane. Vehicles yield to traffic

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exiting the roundabout before heading to
Route 179.

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» All right. And I'll pass it over to
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Thanks, Martin. [clears throat]
So, now we'll walk through the proposed

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roundabout and how it will be
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The project will use phase construction
so that traffic can continue moving

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through the area while the work is
underway. During stage one, the

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contractor will begin with temporary
pavement to accommodate shifted traffic

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for stage two. This will be constructed
by closing the shoulder of Route 179 and

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median of US 202 kitchen lane
utilizing short-term

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uh traffic control.

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During stage two, the majority of the
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Traffic on US 202 will be shifted into
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existing two southbound lanes.
Turning movements through the

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intersection will be controlled with
temporary traffic signals and stop signs

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to maintain traffic flow during
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Access to nearby properties will remain
open during all stages of the projects.

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and over to stage three. The remaining
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approaches will be constructed.
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temporarily closed and detourred. The
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milesi, and we'll use kitchen lane and
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circulation.
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and once this work is complete the
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improvements will be place will be fully
in place and the next slide will provide

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an overview of the anticipated project
schedule.

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All right, now we can talk about the
project schedule overview. On this

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graphic slashgant chart, you'll see the
upcoming design activities and

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construction activities.
So, currently we are in preliminary

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engineering with environmental studies
ongoing and geotechnical testing studies

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ongoing.
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shortly we will begin our rightaway
analysis and acquisition of any

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necessary parcels
and then move on into final design after

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util and which in which utility
coordination and permitting will

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continue. So final design will should
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with a

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project scheduled letting of March 2028
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construction would take over and
duration is based on the layout that was

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discussed earlier in the presentation.
Should the construction phasing need to

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change this duration will also change.
Some other factors that play into the

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duration of the construction can be
utility relocations, fabrication times,

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and of course weather. Some of these
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final design. Currently, the project's
expected to let as I said in March 2028

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with construction completion by the end
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And also important to note down at the
bottom as far as public involvement

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notes go, uh, comments can be submitted
via the project's website feedback form.

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It's available, uh, for twoeek period
from today, June 9th until June 23rd.

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And an in-person plans display is also
scheduled for Tuesday, June 16th from

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5:30 to 6:00 p.m. prior to the board of
supervisors meeting at the Soulbury

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Township Municipal Building. Further
details are available on the project

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website.

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Back over to you, Nate.
>> Thank you, Martin.

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Uh and so with that, we'll begin to take
questions from the attendees. Just a

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couple reminders that this meeting is
being recorded and will be placed on the

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project web page. There is also a
comment form on the project web page

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where you can continue to provide
comments uh about the project. And with

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that, we'll start to take questions that
we received in the Q&A. And so what

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we'll do is we'll we'll read the
question so the the group can hear it

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and then uh respond. Then if we get
additional questions, we'll continue to

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respond to those as they come in. It
looks like right now we have two

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questions that we received so far. And
the first question is, I don't fully

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understand how the roundabout benefits
pedestrian crossing without any timed

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signal. And I know you can go back to
the zoomed in view of the roundabout.

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» Sure.
as Martin's uh getting to that slide.

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So, the one of the differences between a
roundabout and a signal is the distance

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that a pedestrian needs to cross. When
you're crossing a traffic signal there,

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there may be a a pedestrian crossing
manhand or signal that tells you to

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cross, but it's a significant distance.
And during that time, you know, vehicles

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could be turning left, they could be
turning right, they could be traveling

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through a red light, uh exposing, uh the
pedestrian and a potential, uh

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collision. That's kind of what uh Martin
highlighted with his

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uh figure earlier around conflict
points. So, what a what a roundabout

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does, it kind of separates the
intersection from the pedestrian

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crossing.
So, as a vehicle approaches the

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roundabout, they first encounter the
pedestrian crossing. And a pedestrian is

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crossing a much shorter distance
with a roundabout than at a traffic

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signal. It's typically one lane at a
time. So, they will they will view

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traffic approaching. When there's a gap
or a vehicle slows down, they will cross

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to the center. they then do the same
thing um from the center of uh the

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island to the opposite end of
uh to to to the other side of the

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intersection. So between separating you
know once and then once the pedestrian

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crosses the vehicle can then move
forward past the crosswalk and determine

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if they want to enter the roundabout
safely at that point. So it's kind of

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separating the entrance from the
roundabout from the pedestrian crossing.

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Uh, and it's also creating a a much
smaller crossing distance for a

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pedestrian and vehicles are also moving
much slower at a roundabout which

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improves the safety for pedestrians.

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Next question. Uh, it seems to me that
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at
I'm not sure what that what that says.

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This is at LI. Can Square and Sh Drive
signal start to accumulate a backlog in

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traffic?
>> I think it's meant to be Logan Square

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and Shire Drive.
>> Yeah. Do you want to take that one then?

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Uh Martin, talk about the uh cues that
we're seeing there.

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» Sure, I will try. The um
focus of the lane switch was for

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northbound, which has uh a marked
marketkedly increased

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queue and delay currently and is
forecast to just get worse heading in

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the northbound direction.
So with the switch for two lanes

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northbound with the one right lane being
the bypass lane as shown to get on to

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179 that will reduce the uh delay in Q
for northbound

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whereas the southbound there is a a
somewhat of an increase with the change

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to one lane um
mostly for the PM peak But it is less of

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an increase than it would be if
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through 2050 with no improvements.

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» Martin, can you go to the overall view
of the the intersection and and the

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corridor itself just kind of highlight
we can highlight some of the the

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changes.
Yeah. So what Martin's sharing here is

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kind of the the Shy Drive intersection
and the 179 intersection. What Martin,

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you know, was saying before is that in
the existing condition.

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Uh there there there's kind of two lanes
southbound, one lane northbound, but as

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we were looking at the roundabout, we we
thought it would be best to switch that

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in the future condition with with with
the bypass lane that we're proposing. So

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it's kind of what Martin was saying. And
even though there there may be some

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small increases in in Q length in the
southbound direction because we're going

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from two to one lane, there's
significant savings in cues and delay on

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the northbound side and for the overall
intersection itself. So, even though

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there's a a tweak to lane
configurations, it's really an overall

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benefit in terms of operations and
reduced delay for this little network

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here by by making that switch um at SH
and uh the 179 intersection.

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If
>> I could just chime in briefly as well,

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this is Ken O'Brien from HDR. Uh that
southbound queue is not going to

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continue to accumulate. That 800 feet is
the maximum queue that we expect during

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the afternoon peak hour. And again,
during the morning peak hour, it's only

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expected to be approximately 300 feet.
So, we don't expect it to just continue

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to build and build. Again, the 800 feet
is the maximum that we expect.

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Thanks,
>> K.

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Uh that is all the comments that we have
received so far. Uh so just a quick

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reminder that the meeting is being
recorded. If you have additional

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comments or feedback on the
presentation, there is the comment form.

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Uh you can also reach out to me around
additional information for the product

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and additional comments. Uh and
uh also we'll be at uh the Sbury

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Township Municipal Building uh Tuesday
the 16th from 5:30 to 6 for Inerson's

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plans display.
And uh that concludes our presentation

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this evening. So thank you everybody.