[0:05] >> in compliance with the open public meeting act of the state of new jersey on january 12, [0:10] 2025, adequate notice of this meeting was provided as required by law. [0:15] additionally, this meeting is being digitally recorded and live streamed on the somerset county website. [0:20] for public access, please email your questions to county board meeting at somerset county and j.gov. Director? [0:29] >> please rise for the pledge of allegiance and remain standing for reflections. [0:38] >> [0:48] >> may we continue to be the leaders of somerset county, [0:54] committed to excellence and innovation in public service, promoting the well being of all residents and communities by providing effective, [1:02] efficient, and responsive leadership. Thank you. Welcome everyone [1:10] to the october 28 work session of somerset county board of commissioners. This agenda and the items on and for discussion will be considered at our next meeting, [1:18] which is scheduled for november 12. No action will be taken at this meeting, [1:23] and unless the measure and its adoption are needed in a manner necessary to continue county business. Roll call, please? [1:30] >> commissioner graner. >> here. >> commissioner drake. >> here. >> commissioner soe. >> here. [1:34] >> deputy director mrano. >> here. >> director robinson. >> here. >> I have brief remarks to see we have several guests with us on this evening, [1:46] so we will move right along. Thank you to paul kreseller and staff who planned [1:54] setup and got the vendors together for our second annual veterans resource job at wellness fair. [2:02] I was there with my granddaughter. We had a great time meeting the different vendors, speaking with veterans. [2:10] thank you to vfw post 2290 in manville, [2:14] for being our host location this year. They were very appreciative to have that opportunity, [2:21] and will welcome us back again. I had the pleasure of putting my granddaughter to work and handing out [2:29] challenge coins as a special token of appreciation from one veteran to another. [2:35] we also attended our dinner in somerset that used to be catalin. [2:42] they are a global provider for drug development and research and discovery services. [2:48] it is one of the latest companies that are invested in somerset county. [2:53] they purchased, again, from catalin back in last year or early part of this year. [2:59] through those efforts, they were able to retain all 200 employees at that location. [3:07] they are going to expand the facility with new labs and packaging capabilities, [3:11] and they are a company that is based in belgium, and they chose to make somerset county their home. [3:19] we also with the business partnership with somerset county tourism, [3:24] they have been involved in fun engagement as we prepare for the fifa world cup of 2026, [3:31] partnering with companies and other community partners. [3:36] also, in preparation for the 250th, they have been filming throughout the county to showcase our historical sites. [3:45] that has been completed. They have also sent increased usage and traffic on our kiosk. [3:52] so as that kiosk and availability of tourism and information for [3:58] somerset county goes as far as virginia up the east coast through the tri state area. [4:05] so we appreciate all that they're doing and making sure that [4:10] somerset county is getting the visibility it needs as we prepare for our nation's 250th, [4:16] but also showcasing that somer state county is a great place to live, [4:21] work, play, and visit. I don't think we have, see, [4:26] our next meeting is november 12. So happy veterans day to all the veterans, [4:31] and we'll see you. Deputy director. >> that's great. Thank you, director. [4:36] good evening and welcome. Very busy past couple of weeks. [4:41] administrator more and I participated in a team's call with [4:46] senator andy kim and other elected officials to discuss the gateway rail project. [4:53] specifically the rvl line, which boasts about 15,000 commuters daily. [5:01] we were on the call with congresswoman pow, congressman menendez, administrator mar, four mayors, [5:09] one from each of the counties, including rariton boroughs, mayor nick kara, to discuss what's going on, it's very confusing. [5:19] throughout this conversation, the senator just kept saying, we need clarity. [5:27] the president talked about terminating the gateway project, [5:33] which would eliminate thousands of jobs, delay commuting times. [5:39] for us on the rvl, me as a former commuter, that change of train in newark bogs down your whole life. [5:47] it is a real damper on your family life. It takes you from your children. [5:51] when the president of the united states said he was terminating the project, [5:56] the senator is just trying to get us all to understand that he's trying [6:00] to reach out to washington to figure out what some more clarity as to what's going on. [6:04] in the meantime, the mayor's alliance is working hard on this. The county is involved with the mayor's alliance to keep fighting [6:12] for the gateway project for all of us for that commutation ease. [6:16] it is definitely a pet project of mine as a former commuter. [6:21] so thank you to senator kim for keeping that on the docket. [6:26] I also attended another pharmaceutical expansion here in somerset county. [6:31] lupin expanded their footprint here in somerset county. [6:35] they have a facility in somerset, franklin township right now, [6:40] and they have expanded their office space in bridgewater, which is really awesome. [6:45] they make generic drugs for predominantly respiratory illnesses. [6:50] so we love having them there. The governor was there with us. So phil murphy was there for the ribbon cutting of the new office building. [6:58] it was very lovely, and we're excited to have them grow and build their company here in somerset county. [7:04] I also was invited to the bernards township, 250th planning committee meeting, [7:10] and I got to tell you bernards is doing a phenomenal job of collaborating and coordinating with their businesses, [7:17] their library, their community, their town, the county. So they are really getting prepped for the 250th anniversary. [7:25] they've got december 10 through 15th of 2026, [7:29] all getting ready now in the books for all kinds of activities. So pre christmas 2026, [7:34] spend time in bernards township. I'm going to steal some of commissioner graner's thunder. [7:40] we were at the art show reception together for the open air open space art show. [7:46] so this is the second and a three part series. Last year was farm to frame, [7:50] where we showcased our local artist to show our preserve farmland. [7:56] this time, it was local artists showcasing preserved open space. [8:01] I hope for those that are visiting the building tonight, you do take a little time on your way out and really admire some of this artwork. [8:09] it's very, very lovely. Next year is use on history. It'll showcase our historic preservation locations. [8:16] so that was really, really great. 30 artists, 12 parks. Also with commissioner graner, [8:21] we had the fun time of the launch of the montgomery township inclusive playground. [8:28] part of the funds for that playground came from recreation grants through [8:32] the open space program. It was phenomenal. [8:36] I have never been at a ribbon cutting. Where I saw such eager faces to get in there. [8:44] the mayor would not let any children play until we had the official ribbon cutting. [8:49] am I wrong, liz? They were like, cheering. I thought I was on a disney movie like. [8:55] so it gave my heart some joy to know that our funding is going into the right places, [9:01] and our children in the county are really loving what we're doing. [9:05] also with commissioner graner. We went to the sommer strong 5k and 10k race at duke island park this past saturday. [9:12] that was to support the philippine nurses association and their philanthropic works that they do with that fund raising. [9:19] and also with commissioner graner. We went to the duali celebration at the blagi temple in bridgewater. [9:25] they had a lot of wonderful dancers, all ages and speeches. [9:30] it was a lovely time. I thank the temple and their chair people for the gracious invitation to welcome us. [9:37] as the director said, veterans day is coming up. We do have a ceremony in our plaza right outside on veterans day at 11:00 am. [9:45] so it's easy, 11:11 at 11. Everyone is welcome to come. [9:50] last but not least, our public works had their shred event, 01,111 cars, and our household hazardous waste had 767 cars. [10:02] that concludes my report. >> thank you, deputy director morono, [10:08] and I appreciate your advocacy, too, as I serve on the njtpa board or [10:13] the north jersey transportation and planning authority to make sure that we continue to advocate for gateway and the hunter bridge flyover, [10:21] which will alleviate a lot of that bottlenecking that occurs within our transportation system. [10:27] we had a freight initiatives committee meeting on the njtpa. [10:31] what's nice, we have presentations. This meeting, we had a presentation on technology in free. [10:38] our speaker was matt soul, the founder and ceo of parallel systems, [10:42] a company developing autonomous battery electric rail vehicles. [10:48] parallel technology enables railroads to expand market share [10:52] by improving service quality, flexibility, and reach. [10:56] the system works alongside of traditional transits, complements existing operations, and integrates with rail, [11:03] physical, and digital infrastructure. Matt has more than 20 years of experience developing [11:08] advanced technologies within established industries and aerospace. [11:13] he had lead roles in development teams and certifications of [11:18] the world's first autonomous autonomous flight termination system, [11:22] hazard analysis, and risk mitigation for an spacecraft and air force certification of reasonable rockets. [11:29] we had a wealth of information, which we were able to use to make further decisions on that board, [11:35] and that's $3 billion of federal funding that we appropriate for infrastructure and planning throughout the northern part of new jersey. [11:42] later on this evening, I am proud to say that I will be attending right after this, of course, [11:49] a dinner for the adult day center, and they will be honoring laura de prato, [11:56] and anyone who has met laura knows that she is a breath of fresh air and can light up a room. [12:02] this year's recipient of the steve caliper community leadership award. [12:08] anyone who also met steve understands that his energy was he had that personality that was bigger than life. [12:14] I couldn't think of a better person to be receiving this. She's a trailblazer and ceo journalist and horticultural therapy practitioner [12:23] whose work has transformed lives across all ages and abilities from cancer patients and [12:29] caregivers to senior citizens and memory care and individuals in recovery. [12:34] laura's nature based programs brings healing, hope, and connection to our community. [12:39] her impact reaches far beyond programming. Laura has championed horticultural therapy through advocacy, [12:46] education, and public service, including launching adc's own horticultural therapy initiatives in [12:53] 2012 and authorizing legislation that established the new jersey horticultural therapy week in 2015. [13:01] so I just want to express deep gratitude and appreciation [13:06] for all the work that she's done throughout our community. For veterans day around the corner, [13:11] while we're in person here, I thank all our veterans for their service to give us a life that we have today. Thank you. [13:19] >> thank you, commissioner. Last week, [13:23] I attended a workshop hosted by department of human services, [13:27] the department of health, and the richard hall halth and wellness center. It certainly was an incredible meeting discussion [13:34] as the program embarks on a new program with a goal of harm reduction. [13:39] this program includes a fully equipped mobile van and substance use counselors [13:44] who are looking to bring support directly to those who need it. We use data from the county to identify hot spots or activity centers, [13:53] and nine municipalities were identified as places really to focus our energies. [13:57] we want to thank all those who came out to this workshop, including representatives from many of the municipalities, police, [14:05] business administrators, and several mayors came out really to discuss this important topic. [14:12] we look at harm reduction. It's important to understand what it is. [14:16] harm reduction is rooted in respect, compassion, and the belief that every person deserves dignity, safety, [14:24] and the opportunity to make positive changes at their own pace and in their own time. [14:29] it's about meeting people where they are, not where we wish they were, [14:33] and working together to reduce the negative consequences of drug use, stigma, and isolation. [14:40] in our county, we've seen 399 overdoses from january 1 through september 30 of this year. [14:50] a number that touches every part of our community, from families to schools to emergency responders, [14:56] 27 of that 399 overdoses resulted in a fatality. [15:03] >> seventy percent of those fatalities were attributed to the use of fentanyl. [15:08] we can look at 27 people who basically died from the use of drugs. [15:13] but behind each number is a person, someone's child, a friend, a neighbor. [15:20] harm reduction invites us to respond not just with the policy, but with humanity. [15:27] a few months ago, our research for recovery outreach workers connected with someone who had overdosed multiple times. [15:34] through harm reduction, access to narcan, safe use education, and a trusted connection. [15:41] that person is now in treatment and rebuilding their lives. Stories like this show that harm reduction isn't about enabling drug use. [15:51] it's about keeping people alive long enough to have a chance to heal and to recover. [15:57] really, that's my message for today, but it's end of my report. Thank you. >> thank you, commissioner drake. [16:03] it looks like the supplemental nutrition assistance program, otherwise known as snap benefits for november 2025 will not be available on november 1st. [16:11] this delay directly impacts 11,480 active snap [16:16] recipients in the county and places an enormous strain on our existing food access infrastructure, [16:21] which includes two primary food banks, eight food pantries across locations throughout the county, [16:27] and 30 total food access sites plus six senior wellness centers. [16:31] the somerset county food coalition convened an emergency meeting yesterday to address this. [16:36] as in past crises, the county through coordinated efforts with our oem and [16:41] somerset county community organizations active in disaster or sc-coad, [16:47] is mobilizing community support and urges residents, businesses, and community groups to support this effort by volunteering or donating. [16:54] a list of local food banks can be found on the county website. [17:00] furthermore, we call on our schools to take the crucial step of ensuring that all eligible students are enrolled in [17:06] free or reduced price meal programs to ease the financial burden on families. [17:10] by coming together, we can ensure that no one in somerset county goes hungry during this period of uncertainty. [17:16] the county sent a letter to the mayors and business administrators in all 21 municipalities, [17:22] making sure they understand the implications and resources, and another letter to the somerset county business partnership [17:28] asking for private sector assistance with donations or food drives. Medicare open enrollment runs until december 7th. [17:35] if you have a prescription plan part d or a medicare advantage plan, now is the time to review your coverage. [17:41] the state health insurance assistance program or ship offers free confidential and unbiased guidance [17:47] from experts to help with these critical decisions. You could call them at 908-704-6319 or email at [17:54] ship@somersetcountynj.gov to schedule an appointment before slots fill up. [18:00] the somerset county department of human services, along with the prosecutor's office and educational. [18:05] partners hosted author and speaker matthew boci for over 500 students on october 8th and 9th. [18:11] boci known for his memoir sway, shared his powerful decade long journey of overcoming [18:19] the trauma of losing his father on 9/11 addiction, depression, and ptsd. [18:24] his mission is to reduce the stigma of addiction and mental health and inspire others to seek support. [18:30] workforce development, this healthcare sector is facing a critical need for workers. [18:35] tomorrow, the greater riden workforce development board is teaming up with the state department of labor to host [18:40] a discussion about certified home healthcare careers from 1:00-2:25. [18:46] residents who are eligible for temporary assistance for needy families, general assistance or snap are invited to free computer skills classes provided by [18:55] the digital equity training program in partnership with the workforce development board of northwest new jersey. [19:01] collaboration with zufall health, there will be a fast track to interview workshop on november 19th in morristown. [19:08] you could see a list of high demand positions with competitive salaries and opportunities for advancement. [19:14] for more information, visit online at thegerwdb.org. [19:20] over at rvcc, the county college is one of [19:24] four new jersey colleges invited to nashville for a two-day event concerning short-term workforce credentials. [19:31] the rvcc foundation had a record fund raising year so far, [19:35] raising over $2 million. Most of the funds are for student scholarships as critical need as [19:40] both federal and state agencies begin to cut student financial aid programs. [19:45] because of changes at the us department of education, many of our fafsa applications have been rejected. [19:50] there are now no officers to help resolve the situation. As a result, rvcc faces a federal shortfall of well over $1 million, [19:59] but as dr. Mcdonough, the president of the college reports, the college will continue to serve students, [20:04] including those who are most vulnerable. Healthier somerset discussed the funding challenges that [20:09] many community-based organizations are experiencing for instance, [20:14] snap ed lost funding and is no longer able to support the farmers protos program. [20:19] rwjh somerset is coordinating the remaining distribution for the fall. [20:25] the coalition also acknowledged the pending changes to snap and wic coming this saturday. [20:31] the food insecurity and healthy eating committee, along with the county are working on plans to address [20:35] potentially increased gables usage of food banks. Now, finally, on public health and safety. [20:41] since our last meeting, the oem has responded to 29 calls for response coordination and [20:46] support within the county and provided support through mutual aid to surrounding counties three times. [20:52] in addition, they provided support and coordination to one large planned event within the county. [20:57] the training academy held 67 classes for fire ems, oem, [21:02] and/or law enforcement since october 14 to include the emr or [21:06] emergency medical responder class run for votex on site for the location for student credit. [21:12] thank you, madam director. >> thank you. We will now move on to citations for our state senior art show winners. [21:22] >> oh, thanks. >> can I have our senior artists come on up, please? [21:42] I'm so happy to see you guys again. We've got four. [21:48] I've got vamalia, and [21:53] waltron and milt, and leo cardia. [22:01] milt. Are our other two artists here, bolin? [22:11] there you go. Come on up. Aaron column. [22:18] I thought they were coming. She didn't make it. I'll just hang on to that on the side. [22:26] well, these three artists were participated in our somerset county art shows. [22:32] if you ever have time, and you want to see some great art, [22:37] this county building in that gallery, as you enter through the parking garage always has phenomenal artworks. [22:45] you don't have to go into new york city to see great art. You can come right here to somerset county when the buildings open and admire. [22:52] our current display, as I was just talking about, was about our open space preservation, [22:57] but prior to that was our senior art show. [23:01] are you vamalia. Oh, [23:07] did we get that one? We didn't know you were coming. So hang on. [23:11] we'll get it. Do you can come on up, though. No, sir. Come on up. We're going to get your paperwork. [23:16] we weren't aware you were coming, so come on up. But these senior artists do great work. [23:22] come on. I swear I'm okay. [23:27] these four are being recognized tonight because they went to [23:32] the state competition and each won an award at the state level. [23:36] I'd love you to give them a wonderful somerset county round of applause. [23:41] [applause] I'm so proud. Do any of you want to say a couple of quick words? [23:48] would you like to say a couple of quick words? [23:52] >> it was a pleasure. >> are we unanimous it was a pleasure? [23:57] I know this isn't you, but let's just fake that it's yours. [24:02] we're going to shift down for a photo. Oh, we got yours. It's coming. We don't even have to fake it. [24:07] thank you so much. Come on down, so we're centered with that seal. [24:12] [applause] [24:56] >> we have a few communications, one from new jersey american water company. [25:01] notice of filing for approval of reconciliation and proposed surcharge for special program charge recovery period. [25:08] county clerk notice of fees collected for somerset county for [25:12] september 2025 in the amount of $4,947,058.14. [25:19] at this time, we will ask that our senior engineer, [25:23] matt looper come up to do a presentation. [25:32] >> thank you, director. Good evening. As you can see, from the powerpoint, [25:38] I'm going to be giving a presentation about the washington valley park trail access and hawk watch entrance driveway. [25:44] this is an ongoing project that's being undertaken by somerset county in the washington valley park, [25:49] which is in our somerset county park commission owned properties. [25:53] I'll give you an overview of the park, the purpose and needs of this project, and then a comprehensive overview of the design process. [26:00] behind me is adam slutsky assistant county engineer, and peter bond from tnm associates, [26:07] who was the design engineer for this project. [26:11] washington valley park, bridgewater township, 719 acres. [26:16] it's lies on the first watchung ridge in bridgewater township. The park contains the former brown brook elizabethtown reservoir. [26:24] that has become the focal point of the park along with a network of trails. The second largest park in somerset county, [26:30] after the sourland mountain preserve, which is 6,000 acres. The next one being colonial park in franklin township at 685 acres. [26:38] park is located in the first and second watchung mountains at the geographic center of somerset county. [26:44] it consists of forest, open freshwater, wetlands, marshes, [26:48] impressive rock outcroppings, numerous historic features, and a 21-acre reservoir. [26:54] with more than seven miles of trails, they're great for hiking and some of the best mountain biking in the state of new jersey. [27:01] in addition, the parks hawk watch area is one of the east coast premier locations to watch [27:06] thousands of rafters migrate south every autumn. The body of water for the reservoir has a multitude of fishing opportunities. [27:15] the park. You see two circles on this map. [27:19] as I said before, it's over 700 acres. It has just two access points. [27:23] to the west is that newman's lane, a well utilized entrance to the park at the western end, [27:30] and to the east and the red circle on the right side of the diagram is an access point off voster avenue. [27:37] this access point to the east is limited. It has limitations and has been targeted by somerset county since [27:44] the 1997 master plan for this park for improvements and reiterated in [27:50] 2005 with our capital facilities plan as a target for improvement due to its limitations. [28:03] this is our 1997 master plan for the washington valley park. [28:09] you can see a few things called out here. This 28-year-old master plan shows the existing access on miller lane, [28:20] pointed out on the top right. It also identifies potential future access drive [28:26] through what is referred to as a future acquisition opportunity. [28:30] it's that gray box on the right side of the diagram. This is 13 acres that the county acquired in 2014. [28:38] the use of that property would be a future entrance to the park. [28:43] in addition to that, you see what is known as the patullo property. It's two properties shown on here. [28:50] most people are familiar with the one that we acquired in 2023, [28:54] the 1.4 acre property known as patullo property. Previous to that is the 9.85 acre property, [29:01] which was acquired in 2014. [29:09] this is the 2005, somerset county park commission capital facility study. [29:14] I've highlighted a few things on this document. It's a long document, [29:18] but this particular page talks about the observations of washington valley park, [29:23] and it talks about recommendations. Clearly states that we are looking to improve [29:28] the parking and access drives to this property. Other observations on the top of the page, [29:33] improve parking and walkway to the hawk watch. The hawk watch area has high visitation during peak times, [29:39] and that mountain biking is a popular at the site. This is a lay of the land on the east side of the property. [29:47] this diagram shows a few things. It shows going from left to right, [29:51] the hawk watch area. It's the circle on the left side of the diagram. [29:55] the associated parking lot, which is just to the east of it. You have the 1.4 acre property known as the patullo parcel, [30:03] which was acquired in 2023. That parking lot is access to the hawk watch, [30:08] the yellow and orange trails, the buttermilk falls, and the east branch reservoir. [30:13] patullo property acquired in 2023. Although it's less than two acres, [30:18] this property holds an incredible historic significance to the county and completed a major portion of washington valley park. [30:25] lastly, to the right, you see miller lane. This red line is the access to this parking lot. [30:32] vosseller road is to the east, the municipal roadway, and miller lane, [30:36] which is a semi-private public driveway with seven residences to the north and [30:42] the washington valley park to the south, shown in green. This is the access point to the entire east side of washington valley park. [30:51] it's a narrow road, and I'll show you the next slide what it looks like. [30:55] this is miller lane. It has private residences on the right side and north of the property, and for years, [31:03] it's been a complaint of these private residences and officials from the county, [31:08] about speeding vehicle accidents and the amount of traffic used in the park, utilizing this roadway, this narrow roadway, which is unsuitable. [31:17] it has got improper site distance at its entrance at vosseller. [31:21] it has all the complaints we just mentioned. We've known this for many years. We started to look at mitigation for this property. [31:28] we added speed bumps in 2013 to miller lane to slow traffic down. [31:32] we installed a new gate in 2018 to restrict traffic after hours due to the nuisances that occurred. [31:38] all these were attempted mitigation measures to try to deal with the issues of miller lane. [31:50] two cars maybe, but anything larger than a car, it's quite difficult. [31:55] they have to pull over to the side. [32:01] it's definitely very now as you can see in this picture. [32:08] in 2023, because of these issues that we just mentioned, the county initiated a project to construct a new driveway entrance [32:15] to the east side of washington valley park to replace this miller lane entrance driveway, [32:20] and to deliver the commitments that were made by the 1997 washington valley park master plan and the 2005 capital facilities plan. [32:28] the mission of it was to improve the access for the existing hawk watch, and the trails and all the amenities of this park. [32:37] what we've shown here, it's a very similar diagram as the one, two slides ago. [32:43] but what we're showing here is a schematic of the new driveway, not to scale or anything, [32:48] but this is showing where the proposed driveway would be, going through that 13 acre acquisition that was done in 2000, [32:56] which was proposed in 1998 for houses, [33:00] 11 homes were proposed there in 1998, and the county bought it in 2000. This new access driveway is going into the property and will connect with [33:08] the existing miller lane access point well to the south of these private residences. [33:14] what we've shown here is the existing red miller lane on the top of it that will remain in existence, [33:20] obviously, for those property owners. Our plan is the dead end or code sac, [33:24] the end of that property. The end of that road, and what was shown in blue is the existing driveway that we plan to remove. [33:32] remove all the asphalt back to its natural state, plant some trees, [33:36] maybe, but that's all tbd and not part of this project, but we're willing to do that, and we're going to do that. [33:42] obviously, the purpose of this is to improve the access. [33:46] this new driveway would alleviate all the congestion that happens on miller lane, [33:51] alleviate all those nuisance complaints that we get from miller lane residences, [33:55] and obviously the rest of the surrounding area. [34:01] just to give you perspective, this is going back to the map of washington valley park. [34:06] it's 719 acres, and that little green line to the east is this project. [34:12] it encompasses a total of 2.14 acres. That's the limit of disturbance for this project, [34:18] which is less than one third of 1% of the park size. [34:25] what I'll go through now is a little overview of the design process. [34:29] I'll go in chronological order just to make it easier. I'm going to go through a lot of documentation that we went through to get to this point. [34:36] we started this design back in 2023. It was bid in 2025, [34:40] and it is currently under construction due to be done in about eight weeks. [34:44] the first item that we did was executed a contract with [34:49] tina associates to design contract to start this process that happened in late 2023. [34:54] it included field survey, environmental due diligence, culture resource survey, [35:00] storm water management design, geotechnical, permit preparation, civil design, [35:05] construction plan preparation, and bidding. [35:09] our next item, which was done three months later, was a due diligence report done by tina associates. We did this. [35:17] we conducted a wetlands delineation in late 2023, a site visit in march of 2024, [35:23] in order to determine the presence or absence of wetlands and state open waters within the project area. [35:29] based upon our site visit, the wetlands were not found in the project area. Finding of their assessment and mapping research found the project area to contain [35:36] uplands and to be outside of a regulated floodplain. [35:40] additionally, just last week on october 23, the njdep bureau of coastal land use [35:47] compliance and enforcement conducted a site visit of our property, and the dep provided a verbal commitment that the project is not in regulated area, [35:55] and therefore would not have triggered the requirement for a wetlands permit. The project is not located in a floodplain, [36:01] and no freshwater lettins are impacted, and therefore, no land use permits from the dep or any federal agency were required. [36:09] in addition, in this due diligence report, through site inspection, design research, [36:14] the county's consultant determined that the site does not contain any known occurrences of endangered species. [36:21] our next item, which was done in january of this year was a state historic preservation office chipo approval. [36:28] as many of you know, this is a historically significant site. The project footprint extends into the bridgewater encampment historic property, [36:36] which is listed not only in the new jersey register, but the national register of historic places. [36:41] we knew this going into the project. It also falls within [36:46] the archaeological site which contains a national register listed archaeological site. [36:50] we did a phase 1a, a phase 2a, 2b, phase 1a, 1b, [36:55] and a phase two archaeological survey was conducted for this project. [37:00] this necessitated a submission of the application for project authorization under the new jersey register of historic places act, [37:07] and this letter is the authorization for construction under the new jersey historic places act that was obtained by [37:13] the ngatep historic preservation office on january second of this year. [37:21] our next item, which was done just two weeks later was a coordination letter to the from the county to bridgewater. [37:27] knowing that we've gotten through our due diligence, our shipo approvals, [37:31] we're still working on storm water management, the county coordinated with the township of bridgewater. [37:36] we sent a letter from our county administrator to the mayor of bridgewater. The letter stated this. [37:42] the somerset county's plan to construct a new 1,500 foot long 20 foot wide pervious pavement entrance road to washington valley park this summer. [37:50] access to the park from miller lane will be restricted once the new road is constructed. [37:54] this new entrance road will separate traffic from the miller lane traffic, thereby alleviating speeding and traffic concerns along miller lane. [38:02] the new entrance road will begin off foster lane, approximately 200 feet to the south of miller lane. [38:07] the new entrance road will be increased site distance compared to miller lane, and therefore be safer. [38:13] proposed access road alignment will follow an existing easement containing a water line to [38:17] minimize tree clearing and allow maintenance access for the water company to the water line. [38:22] an electric operator gate will provide an entrance to foster road, and no lighting or curbing is proposed. [38:37] next, about a month later, I came before this board and received authorization to bid this project. [38:45] it's a standard resolution that we do for all construction projects. The resolution states that it's authorizing plans and received a bid for this project. [38:55] I just pause here on the whole on all of the documents. I just want to go through the actual design of the project a little bit here. [39:02] this is showing our efforts to incorporate green infrastructure and post pavement design. [39:07] what you see in this diagram is our cross section of our road. It's a 20 foot wide roadway. [39:13] it's the narrowest roadway we can do with two way traffic. It shows the 10 foot wide lanes and the two foot grass shoulders. [39:20] it shows the porous asphalt surface course, which is 2 inches thick, [39:25] and two foot grass shoulders. It's our typical roadway section for this project. [39:30] next. It's our five plan sheets. I'll go through these pretty quickly from west to east. [39:36] this area in gray is the new road, it connects up at the western end of the project where miller lane is, [39:43] you see that hashed area that is where miller lane comes from the top of the diagram to the south. [39:48] this is where the new driveway meets the existing miller lane. This is a contract plan for the project. [39:54] it represents the work that is necessary to accomplish the construction of this new driveway. [39:58] everything you've seen in the next five slides shown in gray is the new driveway, [40:02] 01,500 feet long, 20 feet wide. It also shows a smooth design vertical profile with proper design grading. [40:09] it is the area necessary to construct this driveway. It is limited to the greatest extent possible, [40:15] in the most cost efficient and cost effective way. But everything within this limited disturbance [40:20] defines the clearing site for this project. Everything necessary, but limited where [40:26] possible is to be removed in order to construct this driveway. [40:33] sheet two, simply shows the high point of the road. [40:38] you can see the 20 foot wide roadway. As you can see, this gray area is the new driveway. [40:44] as you can see, all trees and vegetation will need to be removed to construct this road. [40:49] the driveway, along its 1,500 foot length and 20 foot width, could not be designed or constructed without [40:54] all material being removed by the contractor, including all trees, brushes, sticks, rocks, [41:01] and earth to ensure the proper grading of the driveway is achieved. [41:06] it's our middle slide. It's three. This shows the straight section, [41:10] and you can clearly see it starts coming down to the east towards vosseller avenue. [41:15] next slide, please. Our next slide, our shoot four. [41:19] this is showing a trail crossing with a proper crosswalk from north to south so people can safely cross over this new driveway. [41:26] then our last slide shows where this new driveways up with vos avenue. [41:33] it shows improved sight distance, improved sight distance versus miller lane. [41:38] it also doesn't show on this diagram, but it will have an automatic gate at the entrance to restrict traffic after dark. [41:47] the next thing we did in our chronology here on february 18, 2025. [41:54] we had a virtual meeting with bridgewater township. The township reached out to us about two weeks earlier than this on february 7, [42:00] asked us for a meeting to talk about the project, to look at the plans for the project. [42:06] adam and I. Had a virtual meeting with municipal officials, their engineer, the director of municipal services. [42:13] we showed them the plans. We showed the previous slides that we just talked about. [42:17] we presented the scope of work of the project. We answered their questions, [42:21] and there were no concerns raised at the meeting that we looked at after the meeting. [42:28] next thing up is our storm water report on march 20, 2025. [42:33] as I stated earlier, during our due diligence, no dep land use permits were required for this project, [42:39] but the somerset county consultant tea of associates prepared a storm water report, [42:43] which is dated march 20, 2025. The project site has been designed to meet [42:48] the flow reduction requirements in the current and future rainfall scenarios. No storm water runoff increases occur at [42:54] any design points for the current and future 210 and 100 year storm events, [42:59] the proposed current flows have been reduced for the 210 and 100 year storm frequencies. [43:05] this is done through the design of our project. Talked about the poorest pavement. It's going to have proper drainage under the road. [43:12] this has allowed us to be able to reduce the amount of runoff from this project. Next up. [43:18] a few months ago, in august 12, 2025, we achieved our somerset union soil conservation district permit approval. [43:27] if anybody doesn't know, it's an official authorization for land disturbing activities that allows a project to [43:33] proceed with a detailed erosion and sediment control plan that has been reviewed, certified and approved by the relative soil conservation district. [43:41] the permit ensures the proposed measures are in place to minimize soil erosion and [43:45] prevent sediment from polluting waterways during and after construction. [43:56] this is addressed to, it's addressed to me, I see. But it's addressed to the county. [44:00] it's signed by the chairperson of the district, and copied on the bottom is the bridgewater township construction official. [44:07] [overlapping]. Thank you. Planning board and tina associates. Thank you. [44:13] sorry. Commissioner. It's even smaller on my page. [44:20] next up, in september 9, 2025, dep issued us a storm water construction general permit, [44:26] which is called the 5g3. The dep currently regulates storm water runoff for [44:31] certain construction activities under its construction activities, storm water general permit. [44:35] this general permit controls storm water discharges to surface water for construction activities that disturb one acre or more of land. [44:43] as I stated earlier, it was over two acres, so we were required to achieve this permit, and we got the permit on september 9. [44:48] next up. This point, the project's been awarded. [44:53] we have our pre construction meeting on september 24, attended by our county office, [44:59] our inspection team, attended by the park commission, [45:03] our contractor, of course, and bridgewater township officials. [45:09] we're about to go to construction. We think we're going to start a in early october. [45:14] we sent a letter to the miller lane residences. We want to make sure that they're aware of [45:19] this project since it's so close to home to them. This letter was also forwarded to bridgewater township. [45:26] just give you a brief I gave a brief description of the project, much of what was written in the letter to the town earlier. [45:33] we also state that the work is expected to take around four months. [45:38] during this time, the construction vehicles will be utilizing miller lane to access the project, [45:42] wanted to make sure they're aware of this. So we appreciated their patience as we complete [45:47] the new access road to washington valley park. [45:51] next up, we have what we're referring to as a green acres determination letter. [45:59] the proposed access drive directly from vossler to washington valley road was reviewed with the nj dep green acres program rules. [46:06] under definition, this is defined as a development as any improvement to the land or water area of a park land that is [46:13] designed to expand or enhance its utilization for outdoor recreation in conservation purposes and shall include construction, [46:19] renovation, or repair of any such improvement. This term may include any of the following, [46:24] which lists several things, including parking and roadways. Construction of the new access driveway meets [46:30] this definition and can be considered a permitted development. [46:35] additionally, public access to and use of a funded park land. [46:40] under the dep rules, any local government unit or non profit shall ensure that funded park land is open, [46:46] that reasonable public access as determined by the department is afforded to all new jersey residents. [46:51] as we discussed, the new proposed driveway will allow direct access from vosseller to the park from a residential collector road in boss, [46:59] which is along with a park sign and a park entrance. Currently, the park is accessed via miller lane, [47:05] which is a narrow dead ended residential roadway. Our next point here is about disposal or diversion of funded park land, [47:13] and unfunded park land. The dp acres program rules indicate that a local government shall not divert to use other than [47:20] recreational or conservation purposes unless the local government unit obtains prior approval. [47:25] the construction of this new access driveway to improve public access to the park does not constitute a disposal or just diversion of parkland, [47:33] as stated above, it is our opinion and the opinion of tm associates, and we agree with it. [47:38] it is our opinion that the construction of the new access driveway for the park meets the development requirements as set forth by the dep program rules. [47:45] in addition, we've reached out to dep and the green acres unit. [47:50] we're going to coordinate with them on this project and ensure that they agree with that statement. [47:57] in conclusion, to construct this project, [48:02] took many steps, planning all the way back in 1997 to 2005. [48:06] we looked at mitigation for miller lane. We looked at concepts, we communicated, we coordinated. [48:12] we started design. We did construction. We did all the things in that, [48:17] did our due diligence, our permitting. We looked at wetlands, storm water, hydrology, [48:22] utilities, and here we are tonight. We have about eight weeks to go with this project, weather dependent, [48:29] and somerset county took all reasonable and necessary steps to deliver this project in the most cost effective, [48:35] cost efficient way to deliver a great enhancement to one of our most valuable assets, [48:39] washington valley park. Thank you. Thank you. Very thorough and comprehensive update [48:47] of what's the timeline from 28 years ago to date. [48:52] thank you for that. I'm going to take a point of privilege. I suspect that most of our guests tonight are here on this topic. [49:01] at this time, I'm going to open the floor for a motion for public on this topic only. [49:11] motion open to public. Second. All in favor? [background] [49:15] the rules of engagement. 5 minutes, no yielding of time, no coming up a second time, [49:20] and our clerk will inform you when you into a close mayor. [49:29] >> please state your name and address when you come to the mic for the record. [49:35] >> I will do that. I'm not used to being on this side of that day. Matthew mench, 1303 roger avenue, [49:40] and the mayor of bridgewater. In order to be respectful of everyone's time and use my five minutes wisely, [49:46] I'll get right into addressing some of our concerns. First of all, I appreciate the presentation that was made tonight. [49:54] one of the things that's unique about this project and causing some of the concern amongst our residents is that if this project were being done by a private developer, [50:02] as a baseline issue, they'd have to come in front of and use board, zoning, or planning. [50:07] all the issues that have been talked about by mr. Loper would have been presented in front of [50:11] our planning board or zoning board, as appropriate. There would have been an opportunity for questions in public, [50:16] from residents, from board members, from interested parties, to fully understand the project, [50:22] as well as to ask questions or impose conditions, things like that. The county is not required to come in front of a township land use board. [50:32] school boards come for courtesy reviews. There's nothing that prohibits it. [50:37] it's a courtesy review, not required, but could be done. But the issue that was missing in a lot of that is speaking for myself, [50:47] anybody here who wants to speak can speak for their own personal opinions, is that when you look at the diagram that was shown, [50:52] the nice map with the little line drawn and consistent with the letter we received in [50:58] january was I personally don't have an objection to a access road. [51:06] in concept, not a problem. But what's missing is any discussion anywhere [51:12] of the scope of the tree removal that's there, the plants say 34 trees. [51:18] I've heard resins talk about, will they only meant big trees? No, it's broken down by size of tree. [51:23] when you look at that nice little map and say, this makes sense, I guess. [51:29] it doesn't reflect the conditions on the property. [51:33] when you go out there, and I'm sure at this point, probably most of you have gone by it, [51:37] if you weren't there before, you've seen it, it's jarring. For residents who have no idea about meetings that take place. [51:46] I imagine your meetings aren't typically like this. [51:50] that's true, even for our township meetings, you don't have widespread public engagement. [51:55] land use sports typically get more. When you look out and our township raised concerns in august, [52:03] we asked three questions of our engineer reached out to one of your engineers to say, [52:08] we were concerned about the tree removal. Then when we thought it was 34 trees, we were concerned about the site distance. [52:16] the response back was, we're not replanting trees, and we're not concerned about the site distance. [52:22] that was when it was 34 trees. When we go out there and we see clear-cutting of two acres of property [52:29] that if that was shown in anything that our officials have seen, [52:35] it was not apparent that what is occurring on that site is what is represented in those diagrams. [52:44] the concern that we have, and I'm here on behalf of, is not to debate whether the road is or [52:50] isn't a good idea from the purpose of access to the park. It's the concern first and foremost of, [52:58] with the removal of these trees, that site, as you all know it's at the top of the mountain. [53:03] we spent a million dollars repairing vossler avenue about 800 yards or less from that entrance there. [53:09] I understand for the first time here that there may be a stormwater report is first of that what has occurred there. [53:18] now putting macadam on there, asphalt, whatever the material that's being used is not creating [53:22] a river conditions that are going to take place. As we all know with ida, chimney rock road destroyed, [53:30] vossler destroyed, right in the middle there. As of right now, our residents want to make sure that we understand [53:37] what mitigation is or is it needed to be able to ensure that, [53:42] with the new conditions on that site, our residents are not at risk because of increased flooding. [53:46] [noise] if any other entity other than the county, any developer was to come forward, [53:51] a resident wants to remove three or four trees from their yard, they got to get permits, [53:56] they got to get studies. If it got to help a developer that comes in front of [54:00] our land use boards and wants to remove that level of trees, assuming it got approved, [54:05] there'd be requirements for replacement of trees or payment into the tree fund. [54:10] I understand that the courts will debate whether or not you have to do that. [54:15] but whether you legally have to or not. Thank you. Whether you have to do that or not, you should, [54:21] because removal of 300 trees for over two acres, like every other developer in bridgewater, [54:28] has to replace trees either on site or into our tree fund so that we as a community, [54:33] don't lose the benefit of that natural resource. The county should commit to replacing those trees, [54:38] coming up with a plan on site or off-site to replace what has been destroyed, [54:43] and ensure that our residents can be confident that the runoff from that site is not going to impact our community in that area. [54:49] last but not least, we want to understand what the future scope of the project is. Nothing has been mentioned about apparently a new building going on. [54:56] there's a contract on there today. Nothing in the plans that were talked about just now. [55:00] nothing that I've seen discusses what, I understand to be a center. [55:04] we want to know what is next. Is this it? Or is there another round of tree cutting, [55:10] and we're going to be back here saying what's going on? I appreciate your time and your attention to this matter. Thank you very much. [55:16] >> commissioner, if I may. Just to address some of those. [55:20] mayor. Traditionally, when we did improvements to somerset county patriots ball park, [55:25] when we did improvements to richard hall, which are going now. We did a courtesy review. [55:32] I did appear in front of your planning board. When we do structures or buildings, [55:36] that's traditionally when we go to it. A road system or driveway, not really. [55:42] it's just a simple thing. But with regards to any time there was a structure that was going to be built in your town, or hillsboro, [55:48] or any other town, we do engage the planning board and your planning board officials. [55:52] your zoning board officer has been working with us on the issues with richard hall, [55:57] as we continue to do some improvements there. We do do that, just want to make sure that we don't just guard you all the time. [56:05] >> understand. >> fair enough. The plans and for the trees. [56:10] there is another line item in that bid spec. It's called site clearing. [56:15] in that when you read it, it says, all trees and everything will be removed. [56:19] there are separate items for the 34 trees. There are two separate distinctions in there. [56:25] I'm just calling that out in case you never saw the bid specs. They're in there. They're posted online. [56:30] you can go look at the bid tabulation. Four different contractors bid on that. [56:35] they each had a different price for it. One was as high as $120,000 for site clearing. [56:40] one was 13, one was 40, one was 60. The reduction in flooding. [56:46] the current stormwater regs of the state in new jersey say, anytime you do any improvement, it used to be, [56:52] it just had to not make it any worse, it had to stay the same. Now, as you know, we have to reduce it, and we did. [56:58] it is contrary to common belief that that road will actually handle water better than the forest. [57:05] but science, and the stormwater report says it will. Reason for that, dirt water sheets down. [57:12] this is more porous. When it rains, it goes through the pavement, [57:17] that's porous, means it goes through it. There's stone underneath it, there's drainage, [57:22] it slows the runoff, it slows it down, we've improved. [57:27] I know it sounds crazy. Trees should absorb water better than roads, [57:32] and nor do I advocate paving everything for this purpose. But it does do that job, [57:37] we will provide you with that stormwater report. The only thing I got to fight with you on, because I got to do one of them, [57:42] because otherwise I won't feel good at night about myself, is your own tree ordinance exempts you. [57:50] >> but we would've cut down 300 trees. >> I know, but you made it sound like [57:54] we're the only people exempt from your tree ordinance. It says the town is also exempt when they want to cut trees in [57:59] their own public parks. Just being fair. >> I hear you. I appreciate the comments and on your time tonight. [58:09] I think that's the issue, and I won't modify the time. I understand the rules is just that some of them may not be issues, [58:18] but had the county come in front of the plan for a curis review or had there been some other forum besides, [58:26] this is the first time, some of the issues may have been addressed. Some of them we're still concerned about. [58:31] we'll have issues moving forward, but thank you very much for your time. [58:36] >> government works. I think we've done our due diligence, [58:43] and thank you in making sure the steps along the way that we were [58:48] engaging those stakeholders that needed to be engaged. [58:55] we do not govern through facebook. [59:00] a lot of social media. Anyone else wishing to speak? [59:06] please come forward. [59:12] when government works, government works, any issues in the past, [59:18] I have reached out to elected officials in [59:23] specific towns or municipalities to work through those issues. [59:27] I'm not on facebook. I don't think any of us on facebook working through good governance and policies. [59:34] again, when government works, government works, please state your name and address for the record five minutes. [59:40] >> good evening. >> I don't know if you can care. My name is elizabeth aluci. [59:44] I live at 1776, washington valley road in martinsville. [59:49] I came tonight because you alluded to the fact that there was a lot of information out there, [59:56] primarily on social media about the destruction of the park and all, [1:00:03] and I wanted to know what was going on. First of all, thank you because I really didn't have an idea this was happening. [1:00:10] thank you for the presentation, because I think that really clarified a lot of the information for me. [1:00:17] it seems like they performed their due diligence, [1:00:21] that the township was notified. It certainly seems like it was done, [1:00:27] you know, the dep was involved. There were environmental concerns that were addressed. [1:00:31] I feel much more comfortable about it, and I guess I'm hoping that this conversation is over because it's ugly out there. [1:00:43] there's been so much, as I said, misinformation and back and forth, and it's hard to know where the truth lies. [1:00:49] I think I've heard the truth this evening. I hope that's really the end of this conversation. [1:00:55] I thank you very much for your time. [1:01:00] >> good evening. My name is glenn grossman, 13 sylvan drive and bridgewater. [1:01:05] basically, I have two questions. That's why I'm here. I use the park maybe 12 times a year, [1:01:11] both the washington valley side and the chimney rock side. On the chimney rock park side, [1:01:16] which I guess you're calling the east side of the park, there's currently three parking lots. [1:01:20] there's not just the one that we're talking about here. There's also the one on gilbride, and then there's the very big one that [1:01:26] most people end up using by the ball fields off of chimney rock. I almost always just park at the chimney rock ball fields, [1:01:33] because that's real parks that I know of who uses it regularly. My question is, why was this necessary? [1:01:39] I'm seeing that it's already been done already, practically. I want to better understand that. [1:01:44] why didn't people just expand the existing parking lots if they weren't sufficient, [1:01:49] other than the one that was up there, and maybe make that handicapped parking lot or something? [1:01:54] I get that it's very close to the lookout. Some people like to go just for that, [1:01:58] but most people who use it don't go just for that. Second question I have, just real briefly. [1:02:03] my tax dollars as a bridgewater resident, are paying both for the county and for the township, [1:02:08] and they're combating each other with my tax dollars. I don't like this lack of communication. [1:02:14] I want to better understand how that's going to be addressed. Thank you. [1:02:21] >> hi, everyone. It's unique to be here tonight. I've been here before. [1:02:29] my name is stacy friedlander. I live in bridgewater. So when I first heard and saw. Did you get that? [1:02:36] >> I need your address. >> oh, 10 overlook drive. >> 10 overlook? >> yes. When I first saw and heard what was going on, [1:02:42] I was super concerned. The hawk lookout is a favorite spot for me. [1:02:46] we hike, we fish, we do a lot of things in the park. But a lot of the outrage didn't sit well with me. [1:02:53] as a former environmental policy analyst, I decided to dig in. [1:02:57] I did get an opa request. With my opa request, [1:03:01] I also had a principal engineer, a civil engineer, two ecologists, [1:03:06] a wetlands delineation expert, all review the plans that were given to me, [1:03:12] and we all noted they are in accordance with the njdep. [1:03:16] I noticed that we're talking about a new access road, [1:03:20] which will be connecting vossler avenue to miller lane. It sounds like the goal is pretty simple. [1:03:25] make it safer, easier for people to reach the trails and park lookout. The old road was narrow, private, [1:03:31] and not safe for public use, especially many of us who have driven on that, you know that. [1:03:35] the new design uses the poorest pavement so rainwater can soak in naturally. [1:03:40] it includes subsurface drainage features designed by professional engineers. [1:03:45] it includes erosion controls and meets all of the applicable njdep environmental standards. [1:03:52] trees were removed, but only within the defined construction zone. [1:03:57] it's unfortunate, but it sounds like it needed to happen. Through my request, I confirmed that the engineers, [1:04:03] the environmental specialists, and the njdep reviewed and approved the project. [1:04:07] a professional land surveyor confirmed prior to the project, stating that there are no wetlands on the site. [1:04:15] the soils are well-drained and non-hydric. The supposed wetlands showing up on the map came from an aerial infrared scan, [1:04:22] not actual field data. Yet the town was pushing [1:04:27] a false narrative that the county was illegally destroying wetlands. [1:04:32] why are we all confused? Even though locally, we have had access to these documents since january, [1:04:39] there still seems to be a discrepancy in an argument about devastating environmental damage. [1:04:45] but it sounds like that's not true. Stopping construction now, as the town might want us to do, [1:04:50] would actually hurt the site, leaving it exposed to erosion and safety issues. [1:04:56] for me, this isn't just about a road. It's about trust, facts, and responsible leadership. [1:05:01] when misinformation spreads, we lose faith in our local government. [1:05:05] I hope that both the county and our township can move forward with transparency, [1:05:10] cooperation, and respect, not just for the environment, but for truth. Thank you. [1:05:20] >> my name's pam mccarthy. I live at 830 vossler avenue. [1:05:26] I can see the construction from my window of my house. [1:05:30] whatever I've lived in my house for 35 years. [1:05:34] whatever you guys need to know about the park, you can ask me. I know every tree. [1:05:40] I know every rock. Well, I'm exaggerating a little bit. I'm getting a little. [1:05:47] all I really need to know is whose idea was this? [1:05:52] like, why are we building this road? [1:05:58] it's when I saw the road, I was like, what the heck is going on? [1:06:04] what is this? If they really, I've been on miller road probably 1,000 times. [1:06:12] she's saying it's dangerous. It's not dangerous. They put speed humps. [1:06:18] if you needed to make the road better, [1:06:23] make miller road better for six houses. [1:06:27] there's six houses on miller road. It's making zero sense to me. This whole thing. [1:06:36] it's like, you know, you see something happening, [1:06:40] you're just like, what is going on? What is this? [1:06:46] it's like I couldn't believe my eyes. I know the patullo house. [1:06:52] I know that house. I've been in the blah blah blah. Now, what are they going to do back there? [1:06:58] are they going to build a museum back there? What's happening? Let's say, [1:07:03] we build a museum. Who's gonna go to the museum? Who's gonna police the museum? [1:07:10] are they gonna put a gate? The kids go through the gate that's there already. [1:07:14] you park your car, you get out of your car. You take your hand, you open the gate, you go in the gate. [1:07:20] whoop ti do? My 87-year-old uncle told me how to open the freaking gate. [1:07:25] they're going to put a new gate. They're gonna do the same stupid thing with this gate. [1:07:31] like, it's like stupid I'm sorry. It's not making sense to me. [1:07:39] the kids are going to now use new miller lane or whatever they're going to call it. [1:07:45] is this going to be a fricking speedway? They're going to be zooming down there. [1:07:50] have fun, guys. That's all I have to say. Whose idea is it? [1:07:55] what are they doing with it? That's all. Fine. [1:08:04] >> cytroen, 34-year-old resident at 654 stengel road. [1:08:09] [background] c-y-t-r-o-e-n. [1:08:14] I want to thank you for hosting the presentation, [1:08:19] which added a lot of information that previously wasn't publicly easily available. [1:08:26] I want to thank you for bumping up our comments too, to the top of the meeting that's always appreciated. [1:08:32] I had a couple of questions, but overall, after listening to the presentation and understanding the issue a little bit better, [1:08:40] I have hiked that park the whole time that we've lived there and know it very well. [1:08:47] my neighborhood is adjacent to that area. [1:08:52] it seems to me that though it's written in a master plan from 28 years ago, [1:08:59] that things change and maybe in retrospect, [1:09:03] should have looked at a little bit more in terms of the optics. [1:09:07] what you've done in the beautiful description of the park is ruin a chunk of it. [1:09:14] for the very purpose of people being able to go to the hawks nest, it now really raises the issue of are they still [1:09:23] going to really come and be that same attraction that they were before the woods were disturbed there. [1:09:28] the optics of something that you're doing, even though you followed and crossed all the t's and dotted [1:09:33] all the I's, may in retrospect, it should have probably occurred to somebody when the scope of work was really looked at, [1:09:41] not just from an engineering technical standpoint, from an optic standpoint, [1:09:45] that there wasn't an alternative thought of. For example, not shutting down and demolishing miller lane, [1:09:51] but maybe pivoting a portion of the front entrance away from the private residences and then expanded as necessary. [1:09:59] that was never considered. The new location now is very close to a 90-degree turn on vossler avenue, [1:10:05] which again, cuts down the visibility. [1:10:10] people are accessing it, driving north from 22. There's a sharp left turn. [1:10:14] shortly after that, there's the new turn into the driveway, as it's called. [1:10:19] that limits the visibility of people coming the other way to see that happening. [1:10:24] if there are two or three or four cars backed up to get into the park, [1:10:28] that may cause a road issue that's now not an issue. [1:10:34] but my questions are this. I didn't hear any information on the traffic volume. [1:10:39] pedestrian bike and vehicular in terms of whether this expansion really warrants that. [1:10:49] generally, roads are expanded to accommodate excess traffic. I've never experienced that in all the time that I've hiking, [1:10:55] they're seeing that anybody had a problem parking or getting in or getting out. [1:11:00] it's not clear also whether the parking light size is being increased. [1:11:06] also, again, this goes back to what's the need? Is the need really there to double the width? [1:11:14] if you're not going to increase the parking lot, then what's that going to accomplish? Was the need there? [1:11:20] I think there are lessons to be learned here in insight by the township, [1:11:24] by the county in doing and activating a plan from 28 years ago. [1:11:29] thank you. [applause] [1:11:37] >> nick kuzo, 83 village drive in basking ridge? Good evening, commissioners, and thank you for the opportunity to speak tonight. [1:11:44] I live in bernards township, where I serve on both the planning board and the environmental commission. [1:11:49] I'm here this evening as a concerned resident to talk about what has happened at washington valley park, [1:11:53] and what it says about how we manage our county's open space. In recent weeks, and as discussed this evening, [1:12:00] we learned hundreds of trees, 300, possibly as many as 500, were cut down at washington valley park, [1:12:05] and this land is designated by the county itself as preserved open space. [1:12:10] according to public records, the contractor that was hired by the county was only authorized to remove 34 trees. [1:12:16] yet the scale of the destruction far exceeded that limit. The result is a scarred landscape, piles of debris, [1:12:22] and a degraded area that once helped to prevent flooding downstream. What's most troubling isn't the damage to the environment, [1:12:29] it's the silence that followed. To this day, there has been no clear public explanation of how this happened, [1:12:34] who was responsible for overseeing the work or what steps are being taken to fix it. [1:12:39] as you've seen here tonight, residents are asking, why? What was the need? That lack of transparency is unacceptable. [1:12:46] when we're talking about public land, taxpayer dollars and the natural resources [1:12:50] that make somerset county such a special place to live. At its core, this is about stewardship. [1:12:55] it's about whether our county government is managing responsibilities carefully or whether vital oversight is being lost somewhere along the way. [1:13:03] residents deserve answers, and they deserve to have confidence that something like this will never happen again. [1:13:08] I'm asking the board tonight to take these three specific actions. First, to launch a full and independent investigation into how [1:13:15] this project was managed and why the tree removal went so far beyond what was approved. [1:13:20] second to hold a public hearing so residents can see the contracts, the change orders, and the communications related to this project. [1:13:27] third, to develop and share a comprehensive replanting plan to restore the damaged area and protect against future erosion and flooding. [1:13:35] these are common-sense steps to rebuild public trust and demonstrate that environmental preservation in somerset county is more than just a slogan. [1:13:43] we all want to believe that our open spaces are being protected, not destroyed. [1:13:47] accountability and transparency are the first steps towards making that true again. Thank you. [applause] [1:13:57] >> hi, good evening. I don't know can I move up a little bit? My voice is kind of like, here guys. [1:14:04] there you go. Hi, good evening, commissioners. Michelle morga. I live on 43 dior street in north plainfield, new jersey. [1:14:15] my name is michelle morga and I live in north plainfield. [1:14:19] I serve on the local board of education, and the statements that I'm going to make today do not represent the board. [1:14:27] like so many families across somerset county, I care deeply about the kind of environment we leave for our children. [1:14:35] what happened at washington valley park has left many of us very confused and just frustrated, [1:14:42] and hundreds of trees were cut down on preserved county land. [1:14:46] reports say that the contractor was only supposed to authorize to remove 34, [1:14:51] but somehow the numbers became as many as 500. [1:14:57] I think residents deserve to understand how this exactly happened. [1:15:02] those trees just weren't you know, scenery, but they protected our air, [1:15:07] our soil, and our homes from being flooded. When we destroy the natural protection that we have, [1:15:14] the impact doesn't stay just in that one park, but it flows downstream into communities like mine. [1:15:21] in north plainfield this year, we did see the devastating floods this summer that happened in july 25, [1:15:28] and families lost cars, basements, safety. [1:15:34] they were in really bad shape this summer. Yet when something like this happens, [1:15:40] when hundreds of trees are cut down that were meant to be absorbed through water and prevent runoff, [1:15:46] we're told that it's just climate change. I think enough is enough. [1:15:51] you can't blame climate change when you're actively destroying the very things that help us fight through climate change. [1:15:58] we need accountability and no more excuses. We need a leadership that takes environmental management very seriously, [1:16:06] not just when there's a ribbon cutting or a ceremony, [1:16:10] but in everyday when decisions are being made. I have to say, it's even more frustrating for the people in north plainfield, [1:16:19] because we no longer have any representation on the county board right now, [1:16:25] and that makes transparency and accountability all more important. [1:16:30] tonight, I just joined for a call of action. Residents deserve a full independent investigation into how this project went so wrong, [1:16:38] and a replanning plan, like nick said, to restore what was lost and prevent future flooding. [1:16:44] our kids are watching, and they are learning what it means to care for the place that we call home. [1:16:50] if we don't model that responsibility, then who will? [1:16:55] I just want to thank everybody for their time, and I hope this board takes these concerns to [1:17:00] heart and acts quickly to make things right, not just for washington valley, [1:17:05] but for every community like mine, that depends on you. [1:17:10] thank you. [applause] [1:17:18] >> hello. I'll move back a little bit. Jeff lamborn, 32 lisa terrace in somerville. [1:17:24] the great comment by the former commenter had just jumped up by. I think there's a lot of opportunities for the public that's [1:17:31] here engaged currently to participate in these processes, not just on the county level, [1:17:35] but on their local township level. I echo a lot of what their concerns are, [1:17:40] as far as understanding and accountability into the large amount of trees that are cut. [1:17:46] I support the concerns stated by mayor mench. I apologize. [1:17:50] I haven't mentioned said the name out loud before, so trying to get it right and residents here. [1:17:54] but I do know that the county is taking steps to take this road and what it's meaning, [1:18:02] what it's doing seriously. I do have faith that going forward, [1:18:07] you will listen, you will understand what people are trying to accomplish here. Continue on that. [1:18:12] but I do encourage the mayor here as well that made his comments and the bridgewater council to do the same. [1:18:19] will you also halt what you have put in your petition, your ongoing destruction of the local environment, [1:18:25] your transparency, or lack thereof, when analyzing stormwater effects in your development? [1:18:30] will you provide assurances that these won't occur as much as they are? [1:18:34] because what I've seen over the years is hypocritical to what you're calling here. [1:18:38] you dissolved your environmental commission in 2019 when you came on as mayor. [1:18:43] the township body that is tasked with watching over items that you calling for in particular. [1:18:48] you're in violation of a township ordinance, I believe, as such. You have no shade tree commission. [1:18:53] you haven't registered or submitted an entry for sustainable jersey, which is a municipal best practices and an active area. [1:19:02] you actively increase your flooding downstream in communities like mine, as a result of what's occurring. [1:19:07] why are you sealing your manholes? Where are your green infrastructure requirements on new development? [1:19:14] are all these new developments that you're doing adhering to the states inland flood protection act? [1:19:19] that's the ngdp rule. As county council, demarco has stated, [1:19:24] your own tree removal and replacement ordinance calls for you to be able to do these same things removing trees without review, why? [1:19:32] I believe that may be in violation of the state as well. Flooding is a serious problem to much of us in the area. [1:19:38] council members, alan cardua and philipe pedroso for bridgewater township, [1:19:42] serve on currently inactive flood county control commission, [1:19:47] not county excuse me, flood control commission. In an active county regional partnership that hasn't been active since 2022. [1:19:55] those people are in prime positions to advance a regional lower raton stormwater management plan, [1:20:02] and similar to how our nearby stonybrook watershed has created one through advice through the watershed institute. [1:20:08] the county hosted a conference about a regional stormwater watershed plan in february of 2023. [1:20:15] what changes or recommendations have been published since? As a member and former chair of the somerville environmental commission, I invite you, [1:20:25] mayor mench and anybody from the bridgewater township and residents has a public meeting to come join us as [1:20:30] a collaborative discussion because these things take place best in person on what we've learned on these topics tonight. [1:20:35] I call on you as elective officials and your neighbor to serve [1:20:40] your community and neighbors in good faith and engage in a regional stormwater partnership with your neighbors, [1:20:46] bolster your upcoming master plan review, and better your environmental considerations within. [1:20:51] join us here in somerville in two weeks, two tuesdays from now, tuesday, november 11 at 7:00 p.m. [1:20:58] in the somerville civic center for our monthly meeting. We're happy to put you on our agenda. [1:21:03] I recommend you watch last week's planning board in somerville, october 22, you can see an example [1:21:09] of what it is for municipal leaders to take better care of their environment. Take the pr campaign that you're on right now [1:21:14] and turn it into one that stands for personal responsibility, not public relations. Thank you. [applause] [1:21:26] >> manish patel 41 shaffer road bridgewater. I don't have anything as eloquent or [1:21:32] technical as some of the previous speakers, and honestly, I'd have to agree with just about all of them in terms of what I'm witnessing here. [1:21:41] I appreciate the commission, the commissioner is providing the detail they have today and recently about the project. [1:21:49] I think we could use a more detail because I'm not familiar with the area, [1:21:55] even though I'm a resident of bridgewater. I'm learning a lot about it now. It would be good to assure the residents, once again, [1:22:02] maybe with something more concise than the whole 40 page document and [1:22:07] the trail from january that I think is available to everybody, [1:22:11] including our own township publicly, but just something for the residents. [1:22:17] I do like the simple question the one resident nearby asked about, [1:22:22] why the project, what's the end goal, and some assurances about their concerns, [1:22:27] which I know you have done already. Otherwise, you wouldn't be this far along in the project. [1:22:32] again, I appreciate the information that you've provided publicly, [1:22:36] maybe something more concise might help some of the residents locally especially. [1:22:42] certainly, as you said, we don't necessarily want to battle this thing out on social media. [1:22:47] the other thing, as a resident and a taxpayer, too, like obviously, [1:22:51] the local township and the state, the other place I'd really appreciate not having this thing fought in is [1:22:58] court because we have a lot of attorneys everywhere within government. [1:23:03] the world series is going on right now. That's our favorite pastime. Guess what, our second favorite pastime seems to be? [1:23:09] suing each other and costing taxpayers a lot of money. [1:23:13] I have a feeling just based on what your counsel presented earlier, [1:23:19] just a little bit of information there. That type of discussion, some of what the gentleman before me spoke about, [1:23:27] that's called a discussion. It seems like, rather than have the discussion we'd rather have this. [1:23:35] again, I appreciate your guys' time and letting us speak, but it would be really great to avoid the courts, [1:23:41] using the courts in this process because you've done the work. This thing's been out there since, I think, [1:23:47] january in various stages. If we're talking about concerns, [1:23:52] about the environment, first of all, welcome to folks that I never thought I'd say, were tree huggers and environmentalist. [1:23:57] join the club. Thank you. [applause] proud to wear that badge for my entire life, [1:24:05] I think, but I think there's some merit. [1:24:10] I've been explained to some of the great things that could come out of this project. [1:24:15] also, I understand some of the concerns because of what we [1:24:19] experienced during that really awful hurricane a few years ago, where we lost lives. [1:24:23] certainly don't want to see that again, certainly don't want to see vandalism and trespassing and things like that, [1:24:29] especially if this is going to be a nice historic point in our town. [1:24:35] I'd be proud to claim something like that. Maybe the beginning of a guided tour through the entire county, [1:24:42] about something very important in our history. Again, thank you again for sharing the information. [1:24:47] appreciate it, and hopefully, this can be mediated outside of a prolonged legal battle that will only cost more than [1:24:58] the original project as it seems to work out normally, but thanks [applause]. [1:25:06] >>good evening. My name is carly joya. I live in bridgewater at 14-02 paley court. [1:25:13] I have a combination of some prepared comments, but I will preface it by saying some of it [1:25:19] reflects comments I would have made in my own council meeting and bridgewater, but it was canceled last week because there was no business to [1:25:26] discuss before the election so just bear with me. I'd also like to make one clarification. [1:25:32] bridgewater does have a shade tree board. We are required to have seven members on it. [1:25:37] we currently have three, including one college student from the board of ed also serving on the board of ed. [1:25:44] I have seen no record of any meetings of any sort or any minutes. I don't know what they're meeting or what they're doing. [1:25:49] I would love to join that board someday. Now, I'll get to my comments here. [1:25:55] I just wanted to commend our commissioners for putting transparency and truth on the record tonight. [1:26:01] I can also add that as a working court reporter, that records and preserves the record almost every single day. [1:26:09] the record is something that I take very seriously. [1:26:14] to be here tonight and to actually see and hear the truth come out with [1:26:18] supportive evidence from our engineers about what our commission has done behind the scenes, [1:26:24] four months, actually 28 years, not more than months, [1:26:28] to prepare for the washington valley road expansion project and your vision for that area. [1:26:34] as we all are learning tonight, I'm extremely grateful to see that the record is finally being set straight. [1:26:41] now, if we can get social media and the press to clear things up too, [1:26:45] we'd be in great shape, but seriously know, the press is our friend especially in this day and age. [1:26:51] I just wanted to commend them too for an article that I saw last week in tap into, [1:26:56] which featured our own commissioner marano, and governor murphy, [1:27:00] who had the opportunity to support and welcome the expansion of somerset based loop and pharmaceuticals corporate offices, [1:27:08] bringing 30 new jobs into bridgewater and hopefully many more down the road. [1:27:13] why does that matter? Because it's developments like this that tell the world that bridgewater, [1:27:18] new jersey is still the place to be in the pharmaceutical industry. [1:27:22] it's also extremely important for bridgewater taxpayers after the significant loss of [1:27:28] santa fe's relocation to morristown and the more recent purchase of the old ethicon site by ade pyle, [1:27:35] a three quarter billion dollar northeastern trucking and logistics company. [1:27:41] you tell me they don't want to make that into their tenth warehouse on route 22 in bridgewater. [1:27:47] now while our town also litigates the future use of the acorn site, [1:27:52] I'll be as a defendant and not a plaintiff in this case. [1:27:57] it's reassuring to at least know that our democratic county commissioners are [1:28:01] actively pursuing business expansion in bridgewater, [1:28:05] especially in the pharma space. Please keep fighting the good fight for us, [1:28:10] and thank you for your time [applause]. [1:28:22] >> hi. My name is kathy giordano. I live at 1063 east brook road in martinsville. [1:28:27] I'm living off of vossler avenue, 20 year resident, a taxpayer. [1:28:33] thank you for seeing us tonight. As you can tell, I'd like to just ask by show of hands how many people [1:28:40] are here and in respect to this subject that we're doing tonight. [1:28:44] all taxpayers, raise your hand. Very good. Thank you. [1:28:51] anybody live in martinsville, folks up here? Anyone? No. Anyone drive up and down vossler every day? I do. [1:28:58] >> I do. >> you do. Anyone drive up and down vossler every day like me? Thank you. [1:29:06] yes. I do not come in front of county boards. [1:29:14] I don't do these type of thing, but my heart broke when I saw vossler avenue [1:29:19] being ripped apart and I couldn't stop and not speak today. [1:29:23] the problem is there's many problems. First of all, like any of these wonderful people explained, [1:29:29] lack of communication, water concern. [1:29:34] we have definitely water concern. Raptor trust just put an article in there that this is where [1:29:39] all their eagles go and all the safe the raptors go when they release them. [1:29:44] we have mechanisms right now to protect our environment. [1:29:49] we're not doing that, and that's very disconcerting to me. The one thing that really affects me most, [1:29:54] I go up and down that road every day. I wish you all would if you really want to make a difference and understand what's going on. [1:30:00] there's a curve sign where that wonderful presentation was that you put out there. [1:30:05] if you go by miller lane, right beyond that, it says, slow curve. [1:30:09] on that slow curve is where your road is being built. [1:30:14] I drive up every day, up and down, landscapers, [1:30:19] large trucks, dump trucks, everything. Yes. Can you hear me? [1:30:27] I drive up and down every day. That is a dangerous road. [1:30:32] there's also, while I'm sitting in line here thinking when chimney rock gets closed for whatever reason, [1:30:38] they patch all that coming down, and I know this for a fact, down to vossler. [1:30:44] that little patch that shows so beautifully on the screen there, that little area where we're building this road, [1:30:51] and here's miller, there's a slow curve sign. Someone is going to die. [1:30:56] there's no way that you can get out of that road safely. You cannot see to the left or right. [1:31:02] miller, even to merriam, you cannot see. I know for a fact, [1:31:07] and that just breaks my heart, if we have to come back here and address losing [1:31:12] someone because of our inability to have the foresight, that this is a dangerous road, [1:31:17] and that should not be built there. I hope you take that into consideration [1:31:22] because I don't want to come back here again and say, please stop. Thank you very much. [1:31:33] >> I'm short, so I'm just going to hold it. My name is kathy franco and I live at 766 wee mack road. I'm sorry. [1:31:43] wee mack, and that's in martinsville. It's right off hillcrest, [1:31:49] which is right off ostler. I'm a stone's throw from the park. [1:31:53] I have traveled up and down miller lane too many times to count. [1:32:00] at least half the time, I'm playing chicken with somebody who's trying to [1:32:05] travel in the opposite direction. I have had to pull off. My daughter has run that road. [1:32:11] she's run the trails. My husband mountain bikes through the park. [1:32:16] when I first heard about the access road, [1:32:20] it was a neighbor who said, kathy, what's going on? Because she knows I pay attention to everything that's going on. [1:32:28] I reached out to somebody who I knew at the county, [1:32:32] and they said, oh, there's an access road going in. I said, okay. I answered her back, but then I though, let me find out some more. [1:32:39] now, I go to just about all of my town council meetings, [1:32:43] most of my planning board and zoning board. I actually do listen to all of [1:32:48] your county commissioner meetings on my way home from work in the car. Then at six when I get home, [1:32:54] I listen to the second half, where it's more of the open public. [1:32:58] I thought, I think I heard something about an access road during a meeting. [1:33:04] I went back through all the agendas. I didn't find just one, [1:33:09] but I found four times since january that this project, [1:33:13] something was on the agenda, whether it was the bid for something or a contract being handed out or something. [1:33:20] I thought, it's not a secret, and then it was hitting social media, [1:33:25] and it was a crisis. I thought, that seems odd that the township wouldn't know. [1:33:31] then somebody sent me the january letter because I am active on facebook. [1:33:38] I was seeing a lot of concern being expressed, [1:33:43] but I wanted to find out what was really going on before just jumping on the bandwagon and saying, [1:33:50] oh, my god, what did they do? Through somebody else's opra, [1:33:55] I got a set of the drawings. I saw the bid description that went out, [1:34:02] and I saw where indeed, there were 34 trees that were over 8 inches in diameter. [1:34:10] my husband and my daughter recognized that there were other trees, [1:34:14] but it wasn't a heavily forested area, it was an access area. [1:34:19] it was a right away for something else that there were tire treads that had gone through that section in the past. [1:34:27] maybe it's twice as wide as otherwise was as a path, [1:34:33] but I really appreciate the presentation here tonight, [1:34:39] because it presented to everybody and hopefully clarified some of the misinformation that had been presented. [1:34:47] I was disappointed however, that even after that presentation, [1:34:51] my mayor got up and still we respoke some misinformation, [1:34:56] even though you had clarified it. I am most upset with my township government because if they had an issue, [1:35:07] they had since january to ask questions. [1:35:11] they had a virtual meeting with your engineers. [1:35:16] if there were questions or concerns, that's what we pay our township officials for to bring them up in a timely manner. [1:35:25] I thank you for this. I personally I'm not really upset about it. [1:35:31] I think it is a wonderful area, the park. [1:35:36] I think talks point is an amazing place. [1:35:40] I want not, only bridgewater township, not only county residents, [1:35:46] but the public at large to be able to go there and enjoy it. [1:35:51] that's what green acres is all about. We have two parks in bridgewater right now that are not accessible to the public. [1:36:01] one is the boucher, whatever it is off, [1:36:06] I can't even remember the name of the road, foothill road, because there is no place to access it and park, [1:36:15] and the other is camp cromwell. Thank you very much [applause]. Did I break it? [1:36:29] >> just leave it. It's okay. [1:36:45] >> got it. My name is frank newbauer. [1:36:54] I live at 46 shady lane in bridgewater. [1:36:58] it basically at the foot of osler [overlapping]. [1:37:04] by the way, I'm frank newbauer, live at 46 shady lane. It's basically at the bottom of osler, [1:37:11] where osler and 22 come together. [1:37:15] I've been a very frequent user of the park. [1:37:19] me and my wife love it. It's like our therapy. We're on every trail, orange, white, red. [1:37:28] it's just been a wonderful place. [1:37:33] still? You know what? [1:37:41] I'll take it off. It'll be better. Me and my wife are frequent users of the park, [1:37:48] and being such a frequent user, we were actually quite surprised to see this big construction going on. [1:37:56] I had walked back on that green trail back there, and I was wow, now I can't go there anymore. [1:38:02] but I don't know all the details of everything. [1:38:07] it was very informative learning what's been going on. But I was actually a bit disappointed hearing what has transpired for this 28 years, [1:38:20] mr. Luber, the engineer, was talking about how this project is, [1:38:27] this land is our most valuable asset. It's the park. But I think mr. Luber [1:38:35] missed something that was even more important than the park, [1:38:40] and that is the well being and the safety of residents. [1:38:45] although he's done this amazing plan of, we're going to put this road in, [1:38:51] which maybe you need it. I've never gone on anybody's lawns. [1:38:58] there's only six houses. It's once in a while. But okay, we got this road, [1:39:03] but a little bit further away by the chimney rock between white and red, [1:39:11] us residents, park users have to face a daunting challenge of walking on this most dreadful, [1:39:18] curvy, dangerous, narrow road. I said, what? You've been at this for 28 years. [1:39:25] you've never addressed this danger choke point on chimney rock road? [1:39:32] why the dam is there? You're already 85% there. [1:39:37] a stinking 20 foot little bridge would connect and save the people the risk of being hit. [1:39:45] we talked about somebody who's mentioned about somebody dying. Well, somebody's going to die on chimney rock road, [1:39:51] trying to go between white and red, or jump across the road and connect to the orange and go up the hill. [1:39:58] now, I would like to say, this is something they should be looking at. [1:40:03] the project might be an awesome, great personal achievement, [1:40:07] but is it serving all the residents or the users of the park? [1:40:13] if we can't even navigate some of the park without taking our life into our own hands. [1:40:20] my wife and me walk on that path. Sometimes she says, "I don't want to go that way." [1:40:25] we're not looping the reservoir because I just don't want to go on that road. [1:40:30] I'm disappointed to hear after 28 years, [1:40:34] they've not addressed that. That's a shame. That's 500 feet. You could have done a better job. [1:40:41] I hope what comes out of this is not only fixing and doing whatever you're doing here, [1:40:47] but finally fix that spot. Then we'll have a safer park. [1:40:51] that's really all I've got. I just wanted to bring that point up. No one's talking about that one. [1:40:57] that's the real danger spot of the whole complex. [1:41:01] otherwise, I mean, we've got a super place. No matter how many times I hike this place, [1:41:06] I bump into people, they say, "we've been all over." washington valley tops them all. [1:41:11] it's really good. That's all I've got. Thank you again. [1:41:26] >> good evening. I'm michael kirsch. I live at 25 danbury lane in bridgewater. [1:41:32] I'm also a councilman in bridgewater. I also have eight years experience on our zoning board, [1:41:37] six years experience on our planning board. Before asking a couple of quick questions, [1:41:44] there's definitely a few comments that have been made that need to be clarified, [1:41:48] not from the dais, but from the audience. Anybody who implies that bridgewater's government, [1:41:53] its elected officials, its employees, its planning board, it zoning board, [1:41:58] or anybody else are not good stewards of our land and our assets, [1:42:04] is creating a false narrative. It's just as simple as that. [1:42:08] I have a perception that we're not alone. Other towns do the same thing. [1:42:13] we all take our commitment to the land very, very seriously. [1:42:18] >> your comments about this issue. >> I will get to this issue, yes. [1:42:22] I will say that there was a comment made previously about the world series. [1:42:27] in my mind, there are a couple of examples where maybe some things we were batting out of order. [1:42:32] during this meeting, we've heard there's more plans. [1:42:38] they're going to build something over here. Maybe that part of the road is going to be expanded further. [1:42:44] maybe there'll be more parking. Where is that presentation? Where is the vision for what this full park is going to look like? [1:42:52] it feels like we're batting out of order. Let's build the road, [1:42:57] build it, and then they will come. The question that I have, I think the question many of us have is, [1:43:02] what is this thing ultimately going to look like? Why was that not provided at step 1? [1:43:09] instead of building a road to, we're just not quite sure what's going to be there at the end. [1:43:16] that's certainly one question. I know this is not the time for answers, but I'm hoping that through further dialogue, [1:43:21] we can understand that. The second thing, toward the end of the presentation, [1:43:27] there was a memo written, I believe, as t&m. Is that the engineering firm on october 24th, [1:43:32] stating, you're good on green acres. If that designation from an engineer, [1:43:37] not from the state came on october 24th, why were the saws out on october 13th? [1:43:44] it feels like, again, a little bit of batting out of order. The letter is in hand october 24th, and that's great. [1:43:50] the trees were gone on october 13th. Final area I want to ask about is the site distance and the safety issue. [1:43:58] it's my understanding that bridgewater township raised the concern about the exact spot and whether it was at a safe part of the curve. [1:44:07] what I've heard is the county said, "no, we got it. We're good." that was the end of the story. [1:44:13] I believe there needs to be a a deeper consideration [1:44:19] of what can be done to make access to this site as safe as possible. [1:44:23] thank you [applause]. [1:44:38] >> great. >> before you continue, I see the end of the line, the lady in the burgundy jacket. [1:44:42] are there any others wishing to speak beyond her? [1:44:47] please come forward and stand in line or sit near, so we can get because we do want to hear from you. [1:44:54] we just want to want to gauge where we are. We did have a couple of guests that left that we're here for another reason, [1:45:01] but we want to be respectful of your time as well. So thank you. [1:45:06] >> great. Tim checko, 120 top of the world way, green brook. [1:45:12] first, I wanted to really thank everybody up here, including your wonderful presentation. [1:45:18] it was very informative. I have some appreciation for all the paperwork that you needed to actually complete. [1:45:25] I thought that was very thorough, and it was great to hear how you had planned out the strategy. [1:45:30] a couple of things that I actually did notice here. [1:45:36] shanel, you indicated we don't manage by facebook, but while there were seven different reports, [1:45:42] none of those reports were really something that I think most of the people in this room would have probably read in their average daily course. [1:45:50] I liked the letter that you sent to the people on miller lane. I think if there was some kind of communication that was [1:45:58] available to the wider amount of people in this room to bring greater awareness, [1:46:05] that might have helped alleviate some of what we're going through right now. [1:46:10] the second piece is, it seems like there were two line items. [1:46:15] one was for 34 trees, and then there was a second just general notice that we were clearing 1,500 feet of road, [1:46:24] 20 square feet, or 20 feet wide. By my count, that's 30,000 square feet of pavement. [1:46:32] there would be an expectation. I appreciate, in fact, that there'd be no way you could realistically do this [1:46:39] without a few hundred trees being disrupted. [1:46:44] that said, I don't know that the fact that there was an access road really pointed out that, [1:46:51] which is, of course, what you've heard everyone here gravitate to, that it was just so many trees. [1:46:57] sometimes we get lost in all the I's, and t's and maybe a cliff note version that you could give to the public that [1:47:06] would highlight what they've all visually observed and have concern about might have again, [1:47:12] alleviated a couple concern here. The last point that I will actually say, [1:47:18] because you could probably tell by my dress. I'm the latest person in here in this room to use [1:47:22] the park because I physically used it about two hours ago. I love the facilities there. [1:47:29] but I will say you can get two cars by barely. [1:47:34] I definitely would continue to echo what you've heard that that road was not designed for a lot of traffic, never was. [1:47:43] I think, for me, I understand what you're trying to accomplish here. Thank you very much. [1:47:57] >> hello. I'm nancy foss, 1008 helene place, raritan. [1:48:03] as someone who's bicycled on these roads for decades, [1:48:07] I can personally attest to the fact that there are far too many drivers who just [1:48:12] don't give a darn about anybody that's not sitting in the car with them. I completely sympathize with the people on miller lane [1:48:19] wanting to re-establish the safety on the road in front of their homes. I have a little bit different angle that I'd like to take. [1:48:27] I'm more concerned with the roadway itself that's going in the driveway. [1:48:32] I don't know anything about road engineering beyond how to maybe spell it. [1:48:36] permeable pavement. I'm assuming that means the water somehow trickles through and seeps into the ground. [1:48:43] that's great when it's water. But we have a lot of freeze thaw here, [1:48:48] all winter long, freeze thaw, freeze thaw. How stable is that roadway? I don't know. [1:48:56] I don't know anything about it. Is it something that freeze thaw is going to break up in two or three years, [1:49:00] and we're going to be repaving? Does it have a 20 year life expectancy, and then we take it up and repave it? [1:49:06] or are we going to wind up having to take it out and put an impermeable surface in? [1:49:11] and then we have the problem with runoff. Just if we could take a further look out at what [1:49:17] this permeable pavement will actually mean. Thank you [applause]. [1:49:30] >> hello, good evening. My name is philip pedroso. I have the honor of serving on the bridgewater township council. [1:49:36] been a councilman for almost 14 years. Yeah, 5 yohn drive, bridgewater, new jersey. [1:49:43] I have a very brief point to make. Good evening, commissioners. [1:49:49] commissioner director, you stated tonight over and over again on government works, government works. [1:49:58] I listened to that statement, and you said it over and over again, and that is such a factual statement. [1:50:04] the problem is, is that in this particular case, government didn't work. [1:50:09] if it did work, it worked poorly. I'm going to talk about two separate points. [1:50:14] number 1, the fact that we all are here tonight, two weeks after 300-500 trees in bridgewater, [1:50:25] which is devastated, just cut down. The fact that we're here two weeks later, [1:50:30] talking about this in a packed room, being presented a presentation for the first time goes to show us how in this particular case, [1:50:38] government did not work or it worked poorly. The problem here is that there's been [1:50:44] no transparency in this whatsoever. I'm on a town council. I just found out about this two weeks ago on tuesday, [1:50:50] a friend of mine text me and says, "look, what's going on?" I didn't know. The public didn't know. [1:50:56] no one in the public knew about this. There's been no transparency. [1:51:00] there's been zero effort by you guys to try to get the public involved in this case. [1:51:05] now, you can say, a lot of finger pointing and letters and this and that. At the end of the day, [1:51:09] this is your project. This is your land. You ran this project. [1:51:14] you bid off for this project. You're doing this. This is your project. [1:51:18] it is your obligation. It's your obligation, as government officials to be transparent and make sure that [1:51:24] the community is well aware of what you're about to do. [1:51:30] in this case, you failed the people, and government did not work right. [1:51:35] the second point I want to make is that two weeks ago, the chairman of our zoning board, jeff foose, [1:51:42] came before you on tuesday and spoke about what was happening in bridgewater township. [1:51:49] I was frankly shocked that the next day it was business as usual. You heard about this. [1:51:56] you were informed about what was going on, whether someone had a misconception of it or not. [1:52:03] maybe, but you did nothing about it. You didn't stop the project. [1:52:07] you could have stopped it temporarily and reassessed, re-thought about it, taken some action, but you ignored it. [1:52:15] you didn't care about it. Again, government did not work. It worked poorly. You failed the people. [1:52:21] that's all I have to say. Thank you [applause]. [1:52:28] >> my name is joan geiger, 154 hillside avenue, bridgewater, new jersey. [1:52:33] I want to thank the commissioners for holding this meeting. [1:52:37] residents of bridgewater were invited by bridgewater mayor mench to be here tonight to [1:52:44] stand with him for transparency, accountability and answers. [1:52:51] based on the media attention, our mayor garnered on cbs, [1:52:58] local stations, and social media, it is no secret. [1:53:03] the intent here was to garner more support for his claims which I will leave to [1:53:09] each listener to determine the truth or lack thereof for themselves. [1:53:17] yet, despite knowing what you were facing here tonight, [1:53:22] you held this meeting. Mr. Mench in his media blitz on october 14th, [1:53:32] two days before the regularly scheduled bridgewater town council meeting [1:53:39] and two weeks before the election canceled that meeting. [1:53:46] numerous questions were immediately posted on social media by myself and many others. [1:53:53] when or even if did the commissioners advise bridgewater of this plan? [1:53:59] what action did the commissioners and our town officials take? [1:54:04] how many trees were cut down? What size were they? [1:54:09] were there 300 that later became [1:54:14] 500 trees cut down without anybody noticing? I don't know. [1:54:19] I've had trees cut down in my yard and I'll tell you, it takes a half a day to cut down one tree, [1:54:24] and the noise is overwhelming. Everybody in the neighborhood knows it's happening and there were many, many more questions. [1:54:33] these were legitimate questions. As a mediator and an attorney, [1:54:38] I am trained to ask questions and look at both sides of an issue. [1:54:44] as a candidate for bridgewater town council, whose signature issue has always been flooding, [1:54:52] I was deeply concerned. [1:54:57] now that we have heard this presentation, [1:55:06] the question is, if those comments by the mayor were true, [1:55:13] then this commission had a lot of explaining to do. [1:55:17] but how did our local bridgewater officials respond? [1:55:22] they canceled the bridgewater town council meeting that was to be held [1:55:29] two days after the mayor's media blitz for lack of business. [1:55:38] so commissioners, I thank you for holding this meeting and being here to provide transparency, [1:55:46] accountability, and answers that mr. Mench is allegedly seeking? [1:55:54] I leave our concerned citizens with this thought. [1:55:58] to sort out the truth, consider which governing body here, [1:56:05] or county commissioners or their political opponents who came here tonight and [1:56:11] didn't mention that they are your political opponents. Allowed the public to appear, [1:56:17] allowed the public to ask questions and allow the public to be heard. [1:56:22] therein, I submit, lies your transparency, accountability, [1:56:28] and answers. Thank you [applause]. [1:56:39] >> hi. My name is radwana isla, 32 timberline drive. I've lived in somerset county for over 10 years and [1:56:46] currently I'm a resident in bridgewater near washington valley road. [1:56:51] I'm not going to repeat a lot of the concerns I do share with a lot of the speakers already. [1:56:56] my biggest elevator speech today is on risk management. [1:57:02] risk is not an issue yet. What I've seen, thanks to the somerset county commissioner is, [1:57:09] they've done their due diligence. They've had a communication plan. [1:57:13] we saw it in january. We saw a virtual meeting at the request of bridgewater. [1:57:19] they were never denied any of this information that is available to all of us. [1:57:25] living in bridgewater, I expect the same from our municipal government [1:57:30] that we're also paying taxes to to have that same level of risk management. [1:57:35] how do we mitigate this before the work starts? Where's our due diligence? [1:57:39] if someone gives me an id or due diligence, I don't just put it on my desk and wait [1:57:44] nine months until cbs is knocking on my door or inviting them. [1:57:48] what I do is I look at it, and I demand answers immediately, [1:57:53] not on facebook, not on social media, but in a face to face conversation. [1:57:59] if you don't have a communication in place, that's the time. How do you not just communicate with each other? [1:58:04] you're in a collaboration, not just with the somerset county. [1:58:08] we have collaborations with utility companies. I've seen the same thing happen speaking to residents where a utility company came in, [1:58:17] did not coordinate with the municipal government. Now, guess what, [1:58:22] residents who've been living in bridgewater for decades have runoff because the trees are all gone. [1:58:28] they're dealing with it for the last three years. What is happening to these residents? [1:58:32] this we can avoid. This is a risk. It's not an issue. These are actual issues. [1:58:37] they had flooding in october 2nd, and nothing is happening to these residents. [1:58:42] there's no sbs coming in and covering their stories. [1:58:47] I was at at their doors recently. I speak to at least 100 different residents a day, [1:58:53] either on the floor or in person. Only a few know about the phase but post, because guess what? [1:58:58] that's not where you go for governance. You go to that canceled township meeting that we were supposed to have [1:59:03] on thursday and it was canceled due to not any business. [1:59:08] this is business and not just this, like I said, there's runoff water happening. Joan has talked about the floodwater management. [1:59:14] we need to apply it across the board and I really appreciate everyone coming out [1:59:19] because this is the communication plan we needed from day one from bridgewater township. [1:59:24] I do this on a day basis as a risk management, not just a risk management, [1:59:30] but it's called regulatory strategist. I do it before things go into a human body. [1:59:37] I feel like before things affect our residents, we should take that same approach that a lot of companies take. [1:59:44] again, I thank for the right things that have happened, the communication plan, the due diligence, [1:59:48] but it needs to happen in all collaborations and in [1:59:53] every single government from the somerset county level down to the local level. [1:59:58] otherwise, we will suffer going forward. Unfortunately, we can't do anything about those residents that are suffering right now, [2:00:05] but I hope that it's avoided for future work with other utility companies. [2:00:11] I won't name the street even, but I'm sure the municipal township is aware of it, [2:00:15] and it's really sad what's happening within our township already, which is, again, [2:00:20] an issue and not a risk, but I'm glad we talked about all the risk and hopefully they'll be managed. [2:00:24] thank you [applause]. [2:00:33] >> my name is mary gallagher. I live on 12 highland avenue in bridgewater. [2:00:37] I am a native born and raised here. I have seen a lot of changes. [2:00:43] but my concern right now is actually clarification of storm drainage versus wetland. [2:00:50] because what I'm seeing is the exchange of that connotation or label for everything. [2:00:58] I get confused. What are they talking about? Stormwater, to me that drainage is manmade. [2:01:03] it's technical, it's manipulative. Wetlands are natural. [2:01:08] they're formed by nature. They absorb the groundwater. Stormwater drainage doesn't. [2:01:14] my concern is now with this whole area, they did what they call due diligence for their wetland assessment. [2:01:23] I don't think that was run by dep. It was done by what their environmentalist said or did. [2:01:30] how experienced were they? How what weather did they have? [2:01:34] we are in a drought. Everything is low now. If you get the drought reports, [2:01:40] that means if the dep is putting it out, they're telling us that the groundwater is already low. [2:01:46] what I'm concerned about now is if there is wetlands there that they didn't get right because nobody oversaw them, [2:01:53] then we could be in trouble with the well water for the people on vossler avenue. [2:01:58] this is an older neighborhood so is green ole where I live. And I've gone through the same thing. [2:02:04] there was a case there with wetlands, and I found that the developer had changed [2:02:08] the dep label for the wetland to stormwater drainage. [2:02:14] that I got corrected. I did take it to the people involved. [2:02:20] what needs to be done is a better due diligence to assess the ground. [2:02:26] again, weather may have been when they did the assessment, [2:02:31] if it was a drought time, very dry, everything's low, everything's dry. [2:02:35] I do a lot of hiking, and I've been out in the woods up in harriman and everything. It's as dry as can be. [2:02:41] it's all fire hazard. We have to be very careful about our water supply. [2:02:47] again, we're on well water. I know people on vossler avenue who are well and I don't know who's on well water here, [2:02:54] but I think it's something that should have been considered. I don't see anything about groundwater or water except erosion and flooding. [2:03:03] but nobody's talking about the drinking water or water that we need. [2:03:08] anyway, that's all I have to say. Keep it short [applause]. [2:03:15] >> good evening, claudia levin bateman, 94 katherine lane bridgewater. [2:03:20] I've been a proud resident of somerset county since [2:03:25] 1959 and a resident of bridgewater since 1962, [2:03:31] and part of my sense of humor. But when I look at this project, [2:03:37] despite my love for the great outdoors, I see the bound brook reservoir. [2:03:42] I just look at the second watchung mountain and the east facing side. [2:03:49] homes, hiking, roads, trees, [2:03:53] groundwater, storms, I'll leave that to the experts. My concern is the flooding downstream. [2:04:01] I was present for hurricane floyd in 1999. [2:04:06] I saw it firsthand. I was on high ground in bound brook, [2:04:12] but I heard the stories from my friends that left their homes in the middle of the night, [2:04:19] getting their elderly mother, their young kids running for the door, grabbing their shoes, [2:04:25] going out the door, water going up to their feet, and before they got to that church, [2:04:31] a couple blocks up, up to their waist. I went out on bicycle the day after and about second street, [2:04:41] just looking straight over to the second story of the buildings on the main street of bound brook. [2:04:48] clearly, it stayed with me. The only thing out there was a big black rubber raft boat with the nypd on it. [2:05:00] as a juxtaposition, my girlfriend was getting married that day, [2:05:05] so we had all the wedding activities at her house on the north side of bound brook. [2:05:11] but we had a steady stream of young girls coming up to the door. [2:05:16] my mom asked for shoes. Do you have any extra shoes? [2:05:20] do you have any extra clothing? God bless my girlfriend. [2:05:24] she only wore black heels, but she tossed him out the front door. I remember going to the bound brook high school and seeing the many, many families there. [2:05:34] I remember seeing all the supplies brought there. God bless our town, [2:05:38] there were plenty of supplies. But we know about the project since. [2:05:44] we know about the levees, they've helped. They haven't always been closed in time, [2:05:48] so that's a process. We've seen bound brook go underwater. We've seen manville go underwater time and time again, [2:05:56] we've seen the flooding. We see how route 22, especially on the westbound side becomes a lake. [2:06:03] it's easy to anticipate the highway dips there. We had a woman drown there. [2:06:10] I'm going to leave it up to the army corps of engineers, [2:06:14] the dep, the epa, maybe the universities. Maybe we can get best practices. [2:06:19] I don't know where the water goes, but I know it goes to bound brook, [2:06:24] I know it goes to manville. Thank you [applause]. [2:06:32] >> my name is jim lewelln, 477 garriton road, bridgewater, new jersey, I'm going to thank the engineers for a good presentation. [2:06:42] you had all the proper documentation as far as dep approvals and whatnot. [2:06:52] I know this because I'm an environmental consultant as well. [2:06:56] in listening to your presentation, a couple of things. [2:07:01] first thing, miller lane, was that ever an option? [2:07:06] expanding widening? Sorry. Was it ever an option? [2:07:14] the comment is, was miller lane widening ever an option, [2:07:19] which would reduce the number of trees? [2:07:24] another thing. Is it a raptor migration pathway? [2:07:32] that means something to dep? [2:07:37] they presented a report, and it was a good presentation. [2:07:43] the question I have is, how accurate was the report? If in the report, it says 34 trees are going to be taken. [2:07:52] I know what you said, mr. Dimarco about, well, there's a broad brush over here that says, we're going to clear cut. [2:07:59] but if they had put in that they were removing 350-500 trees, [2:08:05] would that have raised their flag with dep? [2:08:10] would there have been some type of mitigation? [2:08:15] I know from experience that if you go to the ngdp mitigation group, [2:08:20] the rule of thumb when you disturb land especially a forest, [2:08:27] is 426 trees, they call them stems per acre. [2:08:34] if you've taken out two acres, that's 850 stems, [2:08:41] that dep would force you to replace somewhere, [2:08:46] maybe not in the same spot, but somewhere. [2:08:50] the last thing I'll say is that, do you have a mitigation plan? [2:08:56] you're saying right now, the stormwater report on paper looks great. [2:09:02] passes, we got it. What if it starts flooding, [2:09:09] do you have a mitigation plan if it doesn't work the way the report says it's supposed to work? [2:09:17] that's all I have. Thank you [applause]. [2:09:29] >> jack aluci 17 76 washington valley road, martinsville. [2:09:36] I listened to councilman pedroza, say that the government's not working for us. [2:09:42] in a way, I agree with them. His government. [2:09:47] what I listen to tonight, there was letters sent. [2:09:52] there was drawings sent out. There was virtual meetings with people in the township of bridgewater, [2:09:58] engineers, or whatever heck it is. Not one councilman, not one mayor knew anything that was going on. [2:10:04] answer me that question. [2:10:15] >> hi, good evening. My name is suzanne mader. I live at 120 fucillo street in manville. [2:10:24] a few women ago, spoke a lot about the flooding after floyd and ida. [2:10:32] when ida hit manville, I took eight people into my home to live for about a week, [2:10:40] including three dogs and two children, into my 1400 square foot manville home. [2:10:46] I went for a run a couple of days after the floodwaters receded, [2:10:51] and I couldn't keep going because I was sobbing, because I watched my neighbors and my friends empty their homes onto the streets, [2:11:03] and it was awful. It was one of the worst things I think I have ever seen in my entire life. [2:11:12] I can look from my house up north and see where we're talking about. [2:11:22] I can see that ridge. I don't know if you know this, but a mature tree can suck up [2:11:30] between 1,000 and 1,500 gallons of water every single year. [2:11:37] I look at those plans as they were up on the screen, and I see 34 trees being cut down, [2:11:42] and I drove by, I went and I took a look for myself. That is a work of fiction. [2:11:48] if you go up and you say there were 34 trees that were supposed to come down and 34 trees came down, [2:11:55] you are believing a work of fiction. For me, when I get outside and I cast my eyes up to that ridge, [2:12:05] all of that water comes to me. All of that water comes to my friends and my neighbors. [2:12:12] all I want to ask you is, where are you going to put somerset county's new 500 trees? [2:12:20] because according to what we just heard, there's no plan to replant any of those trees. [2:12:26] where are you going to put them? How many generations is it going to take for all of that runoff to finally be mitigated? [2:12:34] because the people on shady lane, the people down on vossler, [2:12:40] and the people in manville were the ones that get that water. [2:12:44] give us our trees back. [applause] [2:12:53] >> good evening. My name is mike pappas. I live at 35 mohawk trail in branchburg. [2:12:58] I'm also the bridgewater township administrator, as you know, but I'm also a former member of this board. [2:13:04] served on this board for almost 13 years. I'm very familiar with the county's open space program. [2:13:11] I've been a very strong supporter of it. Certainly this park that you made a very fine presentation about is a dual. [2:13:19] but I guess I want to make comments about a couple of things. [2:13:24] I can't emphasize how upset many people are about just the number of trees. [2:13:30] there's been a lot of comments about january letter, comments about a virtual meeting, [2:13:36] comments about a september meeting. But at no time did any member of our staff that had [2:13:43] participated in any of these meetings were told that there would be more than 34, 37 trees. [2:13:50] that never occurred. I think that's a legitimate criticism of the lack of communication. [2:13:59] the other thing that is important as the mayor spoke about the trees [2:14:04] and the requirements that the township has for enforcement of our tree ordinance. [2:14:10] the county seems to be selective as to which ordinances you follow. You submitted an application for a road opening permit, [2:14:17] but you didn't submit an application for the tree permit, [2:14:21] regulations governing the tree ordinance. There's some inconsistency there. [2:14:27] when this occurred, I was actually out of state with my wife on a trip. [2:14:32] when we literally the plane landed and I turned my cell phone on, [2:14:37] it started going ding, the number of texts and calls that I got. [2:14:42] as soon as I heard what occurred, I asked our township engineer to go to the site [2:14:46] and to speak to someone in the county engineer's office. [2:14:51] the second conversation that day between our township engineer and someone from the county engineer's office was, [2:14:58] would you be consider replacing some of these trees? [2:15:02] uncertainty in the response. [2:15:07] concern about answers, concern about communication, [2:15:12] I think is very legitimate, and we certainly hope that what's been conveyed here tonight [2:15:17] will give you some pause to think about moving forward with this project, [2:15:21] as has been stated earlier, and that you would provide meaningful answers to some of [2:15:26] these concerns that the township and many residents have raised. Thank you very much. [applause] [2:15:39] >> another short one is here. Good evening, everyone. My name is pat walsh, [2:15:44] 77 rock road east in green brook, new jersey, and I also served on this board. [2:15:50] when I sat here, we cherished open space. [2:15:55] we did everything we could to preserve it, and to get more of it. [2:15:59] in every bit of promo for somerset county, the open space and the ability to recreate, [2:16:06] that was a new word back then, is touted. [2:16:10] I'm going to ask you, guys, I'm not going to go on, but I ask a question and I know you're not going to be able to answer me. [2:16:17] but it seems to me that this whole project, [2:16:21] just a 27-year plan. I'm going to hope that somebody on this board or in this building, [2:16:29] looked at the 27-year plan and just didn't take it out and say, let's just go do this because things change, and situations change. [2:16:39] after listening tonight to everyone, it just got taken out of a draw and went on, [2:16:47] looked at thrown it on the side, and then your department went ahead and just did it. [2:16:53] the question is, did any of you, or all of you, know about clear cutting two acres of trees in this project? [2:17:05] nobody is going to answer. [2:17:10] but I'm going to say if you didn't, shame on you, as a project of this size. [2:17:17] if you really valued open space and open preservation, you would have. [2:17:22] I'm going to ask you, please, don't ever let this happen to somerset county again. [2:17:26] but how can we be assured if not one person can say they knew that they were going to clear cut 300 trees, [2:17:34] and you approved this project. That's the governance that we have now. [2:17:39] [applause] [2:17:44] >> are there any e mails or phone calls? At this time, we're going to close the public portion on [2:17:49] this topic and this topic only is the motion took close. [2:17:59] >> hi, good evening. Andrew baco, 543 barry wood lane, bridgewater, new jersey. [2:18:06] we've heard a lot of res. [noise] I'll just hold it. [2:18:12] we've heard a lot of comments from residents that have expressed concerns and [2:18:20] have been understandably worried that their local government isn't working for them. [2:18:29] now, we know that bridgewater knew that this was happening. [2:18:35] we know that they understood it was happening. [2:18:41] what I am confused with is that we've [2:18:47] heard a lot of the members of bridgewater's government say, I didn't know. [2:18:54] ford council members say, I didn't know. For the mayor say, I didn't know. [2:18:58] we've heard the township administrator say, I didn't know. Somebody knew, mean someone was contacted in bridgewater's municipal building. [2:19:10] I would just think that a responsible local government, [2:19:16] when notified that there was work of this sort would be undertaken, [2:19:24] would go out and at least take a look at the area. [2:19:29] everyone, everywhere, older than 12, [2:19:33] has a high definition camera in their pocket. I find it highly suspect that nobody thought to go take any pictures of that, [2:19:46] that we've determined supposedly, how many trees were cut down based on the height of a woods chip pile. [2:19:55] that seems pretty silly. [2:19:59] but to just close up here. [2:20:05] I thank the county commissioners for hearing the feedback from residents. [2:20:13] it's very important that you have that feedback, and you hear from the residents of the county of their concerns. [2:20:20] I only wish that my local government would do the same, that they didn't cancel the regularly scheduled council meeting. [2:20:32] one that specifically business was moved to because of no business, [2:20:39] but that's another discussion. Thank you very much for listening. [2:20:43] have a good evening. [applause] [2:20:48] >> is there a motion to close this public session? >> seconded. [2:20:53] >> all in favor? Aye. Ayes have it. County council? >> yeah, just to clear up some things because I think the big question was why. [2:21:01] the why really was there's a hawk watch up there. In 2023- [2:21:07] >> [overlapping] if you would please stay, you stay for the questions, given a response. [2:21:13] >> in 2023, the county acquired the hapatullo property, [2:21:19] which is of historic significance. That's got lost here. [2:21:24] why is it of historic significance really is there's raging debate in the historic community on where washington slept. [2:21:33] but there's no debate on where he stood. That's a spot where he actually stood going on 250 years ago, [2:21:40] as he overlooked the middlebrook encampment, which was a very important aspect or time in the war. [2:21:46] it's a site to be celebrated and cherished. It's a combination of finding that balance. [2:21:53] you want to encourage people to go to sites such as this, to see nature, [2:21:58] experience the hawks, understand history, but you have to get them there and allow them to do it. [2:22:04] not everyone walks out their front door. Some people need to drive to sites. [2:22:08] that's the why. Miller lane is a private road. [2:22:13] it is not a public municipal street. Why didn't that requires seven people who, [2:22:20] if that was your house, you would say, no, I'm not letting you put that big road in front of my house. [2:22:25] that option was not a viable option. Wetlands. Wetlands do not exist there. [2:22:32] why do we know it? When did we do it? We did walk the site two different times with experts. [2:22:37] that's required to do it at two different times, because there's a seasonal nature to wetlands. [2:22:42] you do it two different times. The dep also came out. They don't just walk the site. [2:22:47] they also do borings. They test the type of soil because based upon the soil content and the impaction and what's in the soil, [2:22:54] you can determine whether or not that is a potential wetland. Storm water. Anyone who lives in somerset county knows the dangers of it. [2:23:03] we know it, we experience it, we deal it. We feel it in every which way. [2:23:08] we take that seriously. There's not a person that works in this building or works in engineering or planning, [2:23:15] that we don't understand it. We show up after it, we respond during it. [2:23:19] we provide a lot of money and time to it. We have done studies, [2:23:24] and paul drake has hosted meetings on resiliency plans. [2:23:28] we care about it. The bound brook flood control system is something we're proud of. [2:23:35] it's something that we understand its need. When we do projects, [2:23:41] whether we have to do a storm water report or not, we do them anyway. [2:23:46] in this one, it's safe to say, and science says that on the big storms, [2:23:53] the ones that cause flooding. The small storms trees absorb the water. [2:23:57] it's the 50, 100 year storm when way too much water comes out, [2:24:01] that the tree doesn't have time, and it sheets down hills and it sheets down mountains, [2:24:06] and it goes to our lower level towns. We know that happens. This road is designed to slow that down and to reduce it by 25 and 50%. [2:24:17] storm water was a factor. That's all I really have to say on this. The plan was not pulled out of a drawer. [2:24:22] it's not 28-years-old.the concept was 28-years-old. The discussion was 28-years-old. [2:24:28] the plan is about two-years-old. [2:24:36] >> this is it. I think we take a bio break. [2:24:44] the only question I have, county council, is because somebody asked the question why we didn't say anything. [2:24:51] there was litigation. >> go ahead. [2:24:55] >> no, you explain. >> there are forms for government to act, [2:25:02] and there are forms for people to comment. This is a form for government to act. [2:25:07] everyone has gotten a term. Everyone has been respectful. Everyone knows who they are. [2:25:12] we make say your name, we make you share your address. The weekend warrior behind the keyboard we don't engage with. [2:25:19] we'll answer questions that are legitimate. We answer opa request. [2:25:23] we'll provide documentation. Anyone who filed an opa request, those opa requests were put to the top of the pile, if the clerk and I. [2:25:30] we get, I think we're up to 10,000 opa requests so far this year. If you imagine that is three a day, [2:25:35] including saturdays and sundays and holidays. This one, we responded as quickly as possible because we knew about it. [2:25:41] to engage in the back and forth on the internet or in social media [2:25:46] is a disservice to the level that this topic really required. [2:25:51] at our next meeting, which was this meeting, we presented a presentation. [2:25:56] if anyone would have came, showed up and said, can I get a copy of that stuff, it would have been readily given to them. [2:26:03] >> for the record, we will take a five-minute break time now at 7:26. [2:26:08] we will resume the meeting at 7:31. [noise] at this time, [2:26:17] we will continue with our meeting. We have another presentation of state senior art show winner. [2:26:24] please come forward. [applause] [2:26:40] >> you know art requires patience. I think you really have shown your patience levels, [2:26:48] waiting through all the public comment and the beautiful artwork you [2:26:53] did for the senior art show here in somerset county, [2:26:57] and for making it to the state level. May I ask everyone in the audience to give a great round of applause to vamala, [2:27:04] aaron, and sharon for the state award. You want to come forward, and we'll get a picture? [2:27:10] >> this is- [2:27:42] >> we will move right on for our regular program, resolution 25-2100. [2:27:54] >> it's authorizing somerset county to apply for and accept 37,500 for the leap county coordinated fellowship grant for county year 2026, [2:28:04] for a part time shared somerset county coordinator from july 1st, 2025 to june 30th, 2026. [2:28:15] >> resolution 25-2101, authorizing execution of a traffic control signal agreement [2:28:22] between the county of somerset and the township of branchburg. Resolution 25-2102, approving plans and [2:28:29] authorizing receipt of bids for excavation and disposal of buried waste, [2:28:33] battery debris area, former belmed army depot, mountain view road, hillsboro. [2:28:41] resolution 2521 oh three, approving the property parcel map and designating [2:28:46] road areas to be acquired for highway and bridge purposes and authorizing the early appraisal of lands and title searches for [2:28:52] the 2025 road reservicing and ada compliance program, various roughs, various locations, contract 24014. [2:29:06] >> resolution 25-2104, [2:29:10] authorizing submission and acceptance of funds for the soreset county tanf transportation contract [2:29:15] with the new jersey department of human services division of family development for the period of january 1st through june 30th, [2:29:21] 2025, total not to exceed $21,136, no match required. [2:29:28] 25-2105, authorizing the modification of resolution 25-1170 to increase acceptance of funds from [2:29:37] the new jersey department of human services division of family development for the social services for the homeless contract [2:29:44] to add an additional $15,000 of code blue funds for the period january 1st through december 31st, [2:29:51] 2025, new total not to exceed $447,712. [2:29:56] 25-2101 oh, authorizing richard hall, [2:30:01] community health and wellness center to apply to the state of new jersey, department of health division of mental health and addiction services for [2:30:08] a consolidated funding application to provide services to the county's homeless population via the path program and services to [2:30:15] somerset county residents engaged in the involuntary outpatient commitment program for the period of january 1st, [2:30:22] 2026 through december 31st, 2026, and to accept funding if awarded, [2:30:27] total not to exceed $482,307. [2:30:33] >> 25-2107, award of contract to granicus for website grades, [2:30:39] continued maintenance and support, a second year of a three year contract with two one year options to extend, [2:30:45] total not to exceed $29,737. [2:30:53] >> resolution 25-2108, authorizing change order one for [2:30:59] chiller replacement at 40 north bridge street, somerville. It's an increase of $83,039 from the as-bid contract amount of $1,211,619 for [2:31:10] a new total contract amount of $1,294,658 total not to exceed $83,009. [2:31:20] resolution 25-2109, awarded professional service contract to french and [2:31:26] paro associates for environmental investigation at 5:40 east main street, [2:31:31] block 2 lots 5 and 5.01 borough of bounbrook, and block 357 lots 1 and 2 borough of middlesex, [2:31:38] total not to exceed $165,925. Yes. [2:31:49] >> resolution 25-2110, award of contract cy-com-005-25 to the arc of somerset, [2:31:59] bound brook borough, casa of shaw, community hope home sharing, [2:32:04] jewish community center, manville borough, midland adult services, [2:32:08] north plainfield borough, safe and sound, somerville borough, visions and pathways, [2:32:13] and youth consultation services for program year 2025 community development block grant activities [2:32:22] total not to exceed $822,190. [2:32:26] resolution 25-2111, award of contract cc-0154-25r3 to horizon pediatric consultants, [2:32:36] llc doing business as rocking horse rehab basking ridge, new jersey, [2:32:41] for equine therapy services, one year contract with optional one year extension, [2:32:45] total not to exceed $3,750. [2:32:51] >> good evening. Resolution 25-2112, [2:32:56] authorizing a purchase from mes I acquisition out of sandy hook, connecticut, [2:33:00] utilizing new jersey state contract for swat team ballistic vs, total not to exceed $49,371.84. Thank you. [2:33:15] >> resolution 252113, award of contract cc-0112-24 to continental hardware inc for lumber and supplies, [2:33:25] cooperative pricing, second year of a two year contract, not to exceed 6,500. [2:33:33] resolution 25-2114, award of contract cc-9099-25 to [2:33:42] premise ford from parames new jersey for the purchase of two four wheel drive [2:33:47] refrigerated heated food truck vehicles from somerset county division of transportation, [2:33:51] first year of a two year contract, not to exceed $173,182. [2:33:58] >> resolution 25-2115. This is an approval to pay a confirming order to shi international for [2:34:06] our live streaming and captioning services for the monthly somerset county commissioners meeting [2:34:10] for the coverage term of september 30th, 2025 to september 29th, [2:34:15] 2026, a total not to exceed $22,102. [2:34:23] >> resolution 25-2116, approval to pay confirming order to wex health for [2:34:30] august 2025 fsa and community benefit administration fees, [2:34:34] total not to exceed $362.45. [2:34:42] >> 25-2117, amending and cancellation certification of funds for [2:34:47] previously awarded contract from 2024 for galls llc, [2:34:52] total decrease not to exceed $14,359.59. [2:34:57] 25-2118, approval to pay confirming order to fowler equipment company for $964.93. [2:35:12] >> hello. Resolution 25-2119 is the insertion of [2:35:17] a special item of revenue for the new jersey division of mental health and addiction services, [2:35:21] gambling disorder clinician services program grant in the amount of $123,961. [2:35:28] 25-2120 is amending and canceling certification of funds for previously awarded contracts to jm sorgi, [2:35:36] somerville, new jersey, total reduction not to exceed $23,844.75. [2:35:44] 205-2121, authorizing certification of funds for previously awarded contracts to pkf o'connor davies, [2:35:51] cranford, new jersey, total not to exceed $2,215.70. [2:35:57] 2122 is transfer of appropriations in [2:36:02] the 2025 county operating budget and 2123 is a payment of claims and ratification of the same. [2:36:14] >> resolution 205-2124, approval to pay conforming order for karen hock of hillsboro, [2:36:21] new jersey, for the hillsboro senior center july 2025, starry summer night program, [2:36:27] total not to exceed $75. 25-2125, amending and canceling [2:36:33] certification of funds for previously awarded contract with middlesex county treasurer, [2:36:38] north brunswick, new jersey for juvenile detention housing for q1 of 2025. [2:36:43] total not to exceed a reduction of $4,558.66. [2:36:48] 25-2126, approval to pay confirming order to visions and pathways, bridgewater, new jersey, [2:36:55] for non profit services for the period of april through september 2025, [2:37:00] total not to exceed $32,500 25-2127, [2:37:06] authorizing certification of funds for previously awarded contract for qualifax systems inc, [2:37:12] contract cc-0121-20 for richard hall community health and wellness center, [2:37:18] qualifax electronic health record system fifth year of a seven year contract, [2:37:23] total not to exceed $1,500. 25-2128, approval to pay a confirming order to [2:37:30] the national council for mental well being of atlanta georgia for renewal of membership, [2:37:35] total not to exceed $5,341, 25-2129, [2:37:40] approval to pay confirming order for katherine jane's mandatory basic benefits registration training course [2:37:46] to the national association of county veteran service officers, total not to exceed $400. [2:37:53] she did pass the course. Then the last 25-2130, [2:38:00] authorizing certification of funds for previously awarded contract to continental hardware inc, [2:38:05] contract cc-0112-24 for lumber and supplies for the wheelchair ramp program, [2:38:11] total not to exceed $1,560. [2:38:18] in the wheelchair ramp program, [2:38:23] it depends on the number of volunteers who are needed. This is a program that is provided through our handyman volunteer program. [2:38:30] we just recently increased the number of handyman volunteers by over 50%. [2:38:35] this one, in particular was a pretty significant one that was very, very long. [2:38:40] I think there were probably about at least 10 people on site, and they built it in one day. [2:38:48] >> resolution 205-20-1301 approval, pay confirming order of york telecom, [2:38:54] new jersey for forensic software told not to exceed $14,074.36. Thank you. [2:39:08] >> 2132, authorize the certification of funds for previously awarded contract to agni enterprises, [2:39:15] llc for head to heel, safety supplies, not to exceed 5,600. [2:39:20] 2133, approval to pay confirming order to bay shod recycling corporation from atlantic islands, [2:39:26] not to exceed $66,639.13. [2:39:32] 2134 approval to pay confirming order to david m. Bittrich inc, [2:39:39] for auto supplies and middlesex, for emergency. It's the emergency purchase for diesel exhaust fluid, [2:39:46] not to exceed $7,673.60. [2:39:50] 2135 approval to pay confirming order to maza recycling services from tint and falls, [2:39:57] for rigid plastic, not to exceed $133.50. [2:40:01] 2136 approval to pay confirming order to recycling equipment corp for emergency repair of main conveyor belt, [2:40:09] not to exceed $1,274.58. [2:40:16] 2137 authorizing certification of [2:40:20] funds to previously awarded contract to atlantic tactical. This is for uniform and equipment, [2:40:25] not to exceed $1,706. 2138, authorizing certification of funds for [2:40:32] previously awarded contract to trius from farming deals for snowplow parts, [2:40:37] not to exceed 2,500. 2139, approval to pay confirming order to various vendors and parts and repairs, [2:40:45] total not to exceed $13,055.60. >> thank you. Is there a motion to approve the above resolution [2:40:53] 25-2100 through 25-2139 to the consent agenda for november 12th. [2:40:59] >> so moved. >> second. >> roll call, please. >> commissioner graner? [2:41:03] >> yes. >> commissioner drake. >> yes. Commissioner sue. >> yes. >> deputy director morono? [2:41:07] >> yes. >> director robinson? >> yes. [2:41:12] >> these are items that will be added for adoption later on tonight. [2:41:16] this is 2099f authorizing an agreement between [2:41:21] the soereset county department of human services and the food bank network of somerset county for [2:41:25] implementation of the community navigator program, 2099g is authorizing an agreement between [2:41:31] somerset county department of human services and the franklin food bank for the community navigator program. [2:41:37] 2099h is authorizing a shared service agreement between somerset county and the somerset county park [2:41:42] commission for information technology services, 2099i is authorizing a shared service agreement [2:41:48] between somerset county and somerset county park commission for public relations services, [2:41:52] 2099j is authorizing a professional service agreement [2:41:57] between somerset county and the somerset county park commission for fingerprint, photography, and background check services. [2:42:04] >> resolution 25-2099k from the greater raton workforce development board. [2:42:10] this is amending r25-1962, which was adopted on october 14th, [2:42:15] 2025 to increase the program year 2025 award to [2:42:20] career training services of the somerset county department of human services for that period of july 1st, [2:42:26] 2025 to june 30th, 2026, by the amount of 112,500 for [2:42:34] targeted training initiative at raritan valley community college, total not to exceed $955,390. [2:42:48] >> resolution 25-2099l, authorizing the purchase of real property known as block 132, [2:42:56] lots 10 and 11 in the township of bridgewater owned by somerset land equities, [2:43:00] llc, total not to exceed $12,500. [2:43:11] >> 25-2099m is rejecting bids for [2:43:15] jcc-0023-25 as the low bid substantially exceeds the appropriated budget amount. [2:43:30] >> resolution 25-2099n award of a contract to feral technologies out of lake mary, [2:43:36] florida for ferro software and licensing. Total not to exceed $12,695. [2:43:43] resolution 25-2099o, authorizing payment to [2:43:47] the county prosecutors association of new jersey out of elizabeth, new jersey, [2:43:52] for the cpanj annual college for assistant prosecutors and prosecutors office management association members [2:43:58] total not to exceed $20,125. Thank you. [2:44:05] >> thank you. [2:44:14] is there a typographer? >> [inaudible] >> thank you. Is there a motion [2:44:25] to add resolutions 25-2099f-25-2099o to our regular meeting? [2:44:37] >> so move. >> second. >> roll call, please? >> commissioner greener? [2:44:41] >> yes. >> commissioner drake. >> yes. Commissioner sue? >> yes. >> deputy director marano? [2:44:45] >> yes. >> director robinson. >> yes. This is the public portion of the regular public portion of this meeting. [2:44:51] anyone from the public wishing to speak, five minutes, no yielding, a time, no coming up a second time. [2:44:57] is there a motion? >> so moved. >> second. >> all in favor? [2:45:02] >> aye. >> ayes have it. Please come up, state your name and address for the record. [2:45:10] >> ed carway, 533 new brunswick road, somerset, new jersey. [2:45:15] you probably remember me from last time because I did not have a very high opinion of you. [2:45:20] I am sad to say that that has decreased in my mind since I've had dealings with your engineering department. [2:45:27] I have a few emails. The only bright spot I have found in somerset county is teresa bonner. [2:45:33] she is responsive and she tries. [2:45:37] I sent her an email. I said, ms. Robinson suggested I contact you for [2:45:42] information regarding the new brunswick road bridge replacement project. [2:45:46] I now see that we have gone beyond the original time estimate and there has been no revised completion date. [2:45:52] this leads me to wonder about the competency of your engineering department. [2:45:57] a 16 inch water main is difficult to misplace. How did this happen and when will the job be completed? [2:46:04] she sent information to mr. Loper, and mr. Loper replied to me on september 27th. [2:46:12] your email was forwarded to me for a response. Please see our project website for the most up to date information. [2:46:21] the information in your public website is basically known as useless. [2:46:27] it provides no details, no real information. [2:46:32] I wrote back to mr. Loper. I'm aware of that. [2:46:38] why wasn't this project started in june? If it had been, even with the delay, [2:46:43] it would have been completed before schools opened. Timing was very bad as this job affects a lot of local school bus routes. [2:46:51] explain the need to replace the water line. What effect will this have on the township water supply? [2:46:58] same question for the gas line. Why was the depth important? [2:47:03] if depth was a consideration, why wasn't gpr ground penetrating radar used to determine [2:47:09] the depth before the work began instead of getting a surprise after? [2:47:14] what specifically needs to be replaced? What work will not be completed until after the water gas line work is completed? [2:47:22] the more details the better. Although not a civil engineer, [2:47:27] I am a degreed chemical engineer with over 40 years of experience in the cpi, chemical process industry? [2:47:35] there was a response from ms. Bonner, [2:47:42] saying that she had sent my email to mr. Loper and I got a response from mr. Loper. [2:47:50] mr. Carway, construction projects [2:47:55] often face unanticipated events and we work hard to minimize their impact. [2:48:01] we thoroughly gather all available information to make informed decisions from the outset. [2:48:06] despite our best planning new information, like the recent issues with utilities, [2:48:11] often necessitates shifts in construction schedules and activities. [2:48:16] while we prefer to accomplish major road work during the summer when traffic is lightest, [2:48:21] this isn't always possible. For example, this bridge work could not begin until [2:48:26] august 1st due to nj dep permit requirements. [2:48:31] this is a complex federally funded bridge project with many moving parts. [2:48:37] the county is committed to completing the work as efficiently as possible. [2:48:42] in addition, we'll continue to coordinate with all necessary agencies including franklin township. [2:48:49] in the interim, I wrote to miss bonner, below is the response I sent to mr. Loper [2:48:56] and my original email to him along with his initial response. [2:49:01] in it I requested details about the timing and delay of the project. [2:49:05] he provided some information on the delay, but no details on the problems. [2:49:10] this is not what I expected or wanted. He did not address any of the technical questions that I asked. [2:49:17] I didn't want platitudes. I wanted facts. I didn't get them. I find this unacceptable. [2:49:23] my degree is in chemical engineering, not civil, but I have taken civil engineering classes and I would [2:49:30] have understood a much more technical answer than what he provided. Basically, he failed to answer any of my questions. [2:49:37] I feel he did not want to be bothered and this was a public be damned attitude and answer. [2:49:46] ms. Bonner replied, I'm sorry to hear that. I have forwarded the entire e mail chain to director robinson so that she is aware. [2:49:55] I will continue to request a response on your behalf. [2:50:00] on october 22nd, I sent back to ms. Bonner. [2:50:04] thank you for your continuing assistance. I am sorry to report that I have yet to receive [2:50:09] any further information from mr. Loper or anyone else at the county. [2:50:14] am I correct that the next public meeting will be on 10/28? If so, I will have a few things to say, [2:50:21] which I believe I have just said. I only have one question for you. [2:50:26] when are you going to to fix the damn bridge? None of you can tell me because none of you know, correct? [2:50:34] >> the latest update is now mid november. [2:50:39] I question the same thing. I feel your pain. [2:50:44] >> one little kicker in, do any of you remember magnolia road? [2:50:49] >> I do. >> three months, took over six, another county project. [2:50:58] I've been in engineering for a long time. We have a problem with a project. [2:51:04] we do a root cause analysis. I don't know if you're familiar with those things. Generally speaking, when a project goes flui in the middle, [2:51:13] there's one recurring cause, poor planning at the beginning. [2:51:20] what I can tell you that if mr. Loper was working for me, [2:51:25] he would not be working. If I took responses like his to my board, [2:51:30] they'd laugh at him and then they'd fire him. Thank you very much. >> thank you, mr. Carway. [2:51:41] >> kendra dipaola, d-I-p-a-o-l-a, [2:51:47] nine york drive, princeton, new jersey. Good evening. [2:51:52] my name is kendra dipaola. I am a resident of montgomery township. [2:51:57] I respectfully ask that you pass a resolution supporting the immigrant trust act. [2:52:03] my comments focus only on some of the likely economic impacts if the ita does not become law. [2:52:13] due to ice raids our county and state lose workers, [2:52:18] their work contributions, tax receipts, and their participation in our economy. [2:52:24] there are other less obvious employment losses happening too. [2:52:31] ice is a threat to anyone who is brown or black, [2:52:35] has a foreign accent or works in some low income jobs. [2:52:40] I teach immigrants and help them find jobs and have neighbors and friends who are immigrants. [2:52:46] here's some of the ways people I know or know of have responded or [2:52:52] are responding to the threat of being detained, arrested, or disappeared. [2:52:58] these immigrants range from low income workers to professionals. [2:53:02] some immigrants have moved back to their home countries. Some have applied for foreign passports and are poised to flee. [2:53:12] some have returned to the country they came through in coming to the us. [2:53:17] employers have become more compliant in collecting i9 documentation, [2:53:24] eliminating some job applicants from consideration. [2:53:29] some workers who lost their temporary protected status [2:53:34] automatically lost their employment authorization documents and are suddenly out of work. [2:53:41] some in fear and facing higher prices have moved in with family or friends, [2:53:48] making it harder to get to work, jeopardizing their employment. [2:53:54] if the ita is not passed into law and our police forces join ice, [2:54:02] creating what could potentially become the largest militarized force on the planet. [2:54:07] fear could cause these employment losses to quickly escalate. [2:54:12] further reducing employment, work contributions, [2:54:16] tax receipts, and our quality of life. Since these immigrants bring us the stuff we seem to need, [2:54:23] mow lawns, provide us top quality healthcare and education and more. [2:54:30] our police joining ice would also entail additional spending for training and [2:54:36] the risk and cost of lawsuits for getting mixed up in ice's racial profiling, [2:54:43] illegal tactics, and chaos. It would also cost the trust police have built with the community. [2:54:51] this is not the way I want my tax dollars spent nor the community impact that I want. [2:54:59] please pass a resolution supporting the ita to avoid [2:55:03] these considerable consequences and costs and to protect all residents of new jersey. [2:55:10] thank you [applause]. [2:55:17] >> hi. My name is debbie farber. I live at 87 highland avenue and bridgewater. [2:55:23] I'm here tonight to ask you to support the immigrant trust act. [2:55:29] the immigrant trust act directs law enforcement resources to be used for [2:55:35] actual safety threats rather than after undocumented people who are not a threat. [2:55:41] immigrants make many contributions to our communities. They are our friends, neighbors, [2:55:48] business owners, and members of our community. They make economic contributions and should be [2:55:54] valued and cherished instead of being villainized. Just like any other citizen in the us, [2:56:01] immigrants and undocumented people are entitled to amendment five of the constitution, [2:56:06] which states no person should be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law. [2:56:13] instead, they are being treated worse than criminals. Families are being torn apart. [2:56:19] we need to protect our immigrant and undocumented citizens by limiting law enforcement cooperation with ice. [2:56:26] please consider supporting the immigrant trust act. Thank you. [2:56:38] >> good evening, commissioners. I'm sherry russ, 19 reimer street, somerville, [2:56:44] and I'm here to ask somerset county to join union county, [2:56:48] hudson county, and essex county in standing with our immigrant communities and families. [2:56:54] please issue and pass a resolution in support of the immigrant trust act. [2:57:00] the immigrant trust act is awaiting state assembly approval, and next, [2:57:05] it will go to the state senate and hopefully be enshrined into new jersey state law. [2:57:10] the ita directs our local resources to fund [2:57:14] local initiatives rather than federal immigration law enforcement. [2:57:19] this is important to us because we already have effective state police, the sheriff's office, [2:57:26] and local police departments that fight crime in somerset county, and that crime fighting includes crimes committed by undocumented immigrants. [2:57:35] there's zero benefit to somerset county residents if we divert our law enforcement efforts in support of ice. [2:57:42] in fact, ice is not even close to meeting its stated goal of deporting violent criminals, [2:57:49] gang members, murderers, child sex traffickers and rapists. [2:57:53] seventy percent of those detained by ice to date have no criminal record whatsoever, [2:57:59] and 84% in custody have been determined to pose no risk. [2:58:06] supporting ice with our law enforcement resources will only [2:58:10] make somerset county less safe, less trusted. [2:58:15] ice agents often have unmarked vehicles wear masks and don't carry id, [2:58:20] which opens our residents up to the risk of imposters posing as ice, [2:58:26] committing crimes against them as has happened over two dozen times in the us, [2:58:31] and other scams abound, including one that recently caused the ratington township police to issue a warning to all residents. [2:58:39] ice policies sell fear and mistrust between law enforcement and [2:58:44] the community in contrast to the way our local law enforcement currently operates. [2:58:49] many spanish speaking folks live in somerset county, and they can be racially profiled by ice and detained without due process. [2:58:57] how would you feel if this situation impacted you, if it was your family, your kids? [2:59:02] what would you do to protect yourself? Do you feel good about other members of our community living with this fear every day? [2:59:11] show these at risk people that they're safe here in somerset county and let [2:59:15] our law enforcement agencies operate independently of ice without diverting our tax dollars to harm our community. [2:59:22] please support the ita [applause]. [2:59:30] >> dawn cohen, 85 millers grove road in bel mead. [2:59:34] I too am here this evening to ask this board of commissioners to join [2:59:40] about 20 other towns and counties around the state to [2:59:44] urge the state legislature to pass the immigrant trust act. [2:59:49] my husband is an immigrant. My children are children of an immigrant. [2:59:55] many of my friends and neighbors are immigrants and children of immigrants. [3:00:00] this issue is very personal to me. Reading the news these days, [3:00:04] I'm very fearful for their safety. It's very clear from news reports that [3:00:09] legal immigration status is no guarantee of immunity from ice's dragnets. [3:00:15] furthermore, all community members benefit from the whole community's access to services that they [3:00:21] pay taxes for regardless of immigration status. We are all safer when our sick neighbors can access health care without fear of ice. [3:00:31] we are all safer when our neighbors can report crimes without fears of ice. [3:00:36] we are all safer when our law enforcement resources are free to focus on their core public safety duties, [3:00:43] rather than being allocated to support ice detentions of individuals who pose no threat to our communities. [3:00:50] let's be clear, the immigrant trust act can't stop the raids, [3:00:54] but it can put a very significant speed bump against their damage. [3:00:59] I want that speed bump to protect our communities from ice's horrifying activities. [3:01:05] I urge you to add our county's voice to the calls for action on the immigrant trust act. [3:01:11] new jersey cannot afford to wait [applause]. [3:01:19] >> I know it's been a long night, so I'll try to keep this relatively brief. [3:01:24] I'm viriyah hodges from highbridge, out in hunterdon county, eight wharton way. [3:01:29] do I need to ride down anywhere? Correct. Greetings commissioners. [3:01:36] I may be from hunterdon county, not somerset county, but as an alumni of rzc, [3:01:42] somerset holds a very special place to me. Both as a twin neighbor of hunterdon, [3:01:48] and from my many friends and connections I made from people who are in somerset. [3:01:53] now, there is the threat looming over both of our counties. The threat I'm referring to is ice, [3:02:01] the modern gestapo that is terrorizing communities around the country, [3:02:05] including right here in new jersey. Hunterdon in somerset have not been spared. [3:02:10] there have been raids in flemington, raids in bridge water, and this rogue agency. [3:02:15] when the citizens of hunterdon county decided to speak up to our county government about it, [3:02:21] they politely told us to go take a hike. I'm asking you to be different. [3:02:26] when there were problems in these, we could come to the somerset board, [3:02:31] and you guys had more reasonable reactions and were more willing to listen to us. [3:02:37] as your neighbor, I'm like to implore you to do what hunterdon did not. [3:02:42] please side with the oppressed rather than the oppressor. [3:02:47] support the immigrant trust act. Do not give an inch to ice and this administration's matched goons. [3:02:54] it may seem like a small thing. To be honest, in the grand scheme of things, it is. [3:03:02] but in times like these, when our democracy is being trampled, when fascism is rearing its head, [3:03:08] we have to choose what we're going to do. Are we going to sit back and watch? [3:03:13] are we going to help tyranny along? Or will we resist? Will we be those who stood up against it? Thank you. [3:03:20] please support the immigrant trust act. You all have a good evening. [applause] [3:03:28] >> matthew mench, 1303 roger avenue. Despite my temptations, I'm going to stay on the topic [3:03:34] I was originally here to talk about, as opposed to responding to some of the other comments that we just heard. [3:03:41] I'm here to talk about two items on your agenda. The first one is there was a resolution [3:03:47] that was passed tonight to award prescal services contract, mills shawning for the architecture of the washington valley park interpretive center. [3:03:57] I understand that there's been a recent early concept plan of what that will look like. [3:04:03] I'd asked all of you, as well as staff you direct, to please make sure that we stay in contact on this project, [3:04:11] so that way as it moves forward. Even in the design phase on it, [3:04:16] you solicited input from bridgewater or either way, we'll give it to you one way or the other anyway. [3:04:21] but I think that in order to avoid, at least make sure that everyone's on the same page with what is being proposed, [3:04:28] the earlier the input we can get, not just on, hey, here's our final plan, but hey, bridgewater. [3:04:33] this is what we're thinking. Is there a problems, questions, comments? [3:04:38] maybe that way, we're not back here next year, when the site that center starts getting built, [3:04:44] and we have questions on it. The other thing, I couldn't help but note, [3:04:48] but I did appreciate the resolution that was added tonight to add services for the park commission for public relations. [3:04:57] I think that's a great idea, a well-deserved timing on that. [3:05:01] I thank you all for your time this evening and have a nice night. >> thank you. [3:05:07] >> hi. David reyes, 797 belmill blenburg road. [3:05:13] I just want to know why the trump administration has taken [3:05:18] away food stamp benefits for people that deserve food stamps. [3:05:25] I deal with a lot of those people in my work. [3:05:31] people should not go without food stamps, especially the homeless people starving out there. [3:05:38] he's taken away food stamps, and all of our benefits are getting taken away. [3:05:44] what's next? Medicaid medicare? I'm just tired. [3:05:50] he is the worst president around. [3:05:55] I just want everybody to vote with their conscience on november 4th and state your conscience. [3:06:03] thank you. [applause] [3:06:10] >> john flores, 389 william street, here in somerville. [3:06:14] I'm usually singing karaoke in front of a mike, but it's been a long night, so I won't trouble you. [3:06:21] >> go a head. [laughter]. >> don't tempt me. Decent, [3:06:28] hardworking people are being pulled off the streets by unmasked, [3:06:32] unidentified federal agents, here in new jersey, here in somerset county. [3:06:38] there is very little transparency about who they are targeting, [3:06:42] and many of the people apprehended by ice appear to be falling into a legal black hole. [3:06:48] nearly all of the people apprehended are like me, people of color. [3:06:55] there are reports that some are like me, even us citizens. I'm afraid. [3:07:01] I'm afraid for my nieces and nephews and my great nieces and great nephews. [3:07:07] I'm afraid for my family. I'm afraid for my friends. I'm afraid that someone that I know, [3:07:14] someone that I love, is going to be taken and that they won't receive due process. [3:07:20] I've been eating new jersey pizza and bagels for 50 plus years. [3:07:25] my friends on the west coast make fun of my new jersey accent. [3:07:29] coffee. I'm afraid. Nobody here can guarantee me that I won't be taken and cast into that legal black hole. [3:07:41] that's the truth. I never thought that I'd have to ask [3:07:45] local government to protect me from the actions of the federal government. But here we are. [3:07:52] I'm asking you to protect me and my family and friends from [3:07:56] the massed anonymous agents of the federal government who are acting without accountability. [3:08:02] support the immigrant trust act. Join the other municipalities and counties that have already done so, [3:08:09] and let the communities of color of somerset county know that you have their back. [3:08:15] support the immigrant trust act. Thank you. [applause] [3:08:26] >> hello. Good evening. It's a long evening. My name is cynthia snacropi pilbozian, [3:08:32] 548 millstone river road, belmeade. [3:08:36] I'm here to talk about the causeway. [3:08:41] otherwise, known to me as the floodway. [3:08:45] tonight, we talked a lot about flooding, trees. [3:08:50] oh, I think, overdevelopment. [3:08:56] in light of expediency, I'd like to read to you the op ed that montgomery news was so gracious to publish. [3:09:05] with a little help from the editor, here goes. The following are my conclusions and suggestions [3:09:11] for somerset county officials to consider as they move forward following the submar public hearing [3:09:17] of the griggstown causeway concept development. Their least expensive option to install three traffic lights does [3:09:26] not address the traffic congestion due to increased housing developments in our area. [3:09:32] it does not address flooding, which is happening more often, [3:09:37] and it does little to assure the safety of dnr state park enthusiasts who canoe, [3:09:42] kayak, run, walk, bike, and fish along the causeway intersection. [3:09:48] solution. A new two-lane bridge, [3:09:53] similar to blackwell's mills, should be built north of the existing bridge from [3:09:58] millstone river road in montgomery to mosha road in franklin township. [3:10:02] by doing so, the problem of bridge closure due to flooding would be resolved, [3:10:08] as traffic congestion on route 206 and other roads due to commuter diversion. [3:10:13] what happens is when the bridge is closed, there are choke points that develop in other roads in the region. Not good. [3:10:23] by looking at a concept that would provide a two-lane bridge, [3:10:29] in an area of land that is already being used for municipal land use, [3:10:37] the franklin township sewer authority, perhaps the dep may be more amenable to considering issuing permits for the land use. [3:10:48] the bridge would then intersect with millstone river road [3:10:52] and would be less intrusive for the residents in that area. By putting a stoplight down at the bridge, [3:10:58] you think that you're creating a safety mechanism, [3:11:03] but you're really increasing commuter frustration, [3:11:08] which is the safety risk. [3:11:13] let me continue. I hear about cost. [3:11:18] an easy pass toll could be installed midway section of the new mosha road bridge to help pay for its construction. [3:11:25] developers in the region must be held responsible for the added traffic congestion caused by the new residential buildings and new businesses, [3:11:32] malls that are being built on route 206 corridor in hillsborough and montgomery, [3:11:39] on harrison street and princeton, somerville, along route 1, [3:11:43] and the list goes on. It's almost dead central new jersey, [3:11:48] and it is a main artery for commuters and travelers. [3:11:54] a lot of people travel. Commuters from these new developments pass through montgomery, [3:11:59] franklin township, and regularly get to work, shop, and more. [3:12:03] also, donations to the dnr, preservation fund specific to the project to [3:12:10] preserve the historic relevance of the existing bridge, make the current causeway one-way from west to east. [3:12:17] it provides an alternate route for commuters. They can use the two-way bridge. [3:12:22] they can also use the one-way from west to east. It also allows for tourists and hiking enthusiasts. [3:12:30] I used to run on the tow path. I used to run from the bottom of my driveway across the street. [3:12:35] I don't do that anymore.it is not safe. People will use me for target practice. [3:12:40] within the past week, I've had to near misses from frustrated drivers. [3:12:46] I crossed the bridge. I was well more than halfway over the bridge, [3:12:51] and I was confronted with an angry driver that nearly hit on me. [3:12:55] I was forced to back out onto river road. That man was not going anywhere, [3:13:02] and so I conceded. Thank you for taking my call today. [3:13:08] the traffic signals are addressing the two times of the day that congestion is really bad. [3:13:15] congestion is becoming worse on weekends. I weed in my backyard. [3:13:20] I hear the horn honking, I hear people yelling and screaming. It's less intrusive to the neighborhood if you would consider this two-lane bridge. [3:13:29] it would also give emts better response times in being able to transfer people to their hospitals of choice. [3:13:38] if someone wanted to go to robert wood in new brunswick, they'd have to go all the way down to route 206, [3:13:44] all the way around, or come up in teran, and go all the way around. There are many reasons why the two-lane bridge would [3:13:51] be a better fit for the needs that you're addressing. [3:13:58] yes. [3:14:03] I mentioned easy pass. Easy pass is being used on many small roads and byways. [3:14:11] when I travel, I frequently have to pay a little $25 toll, $0.85 toll. [3:14:18] that may be a consideration. The canal and ida had bridge tenders and toll booths to assure the safe flow of barges. [3:14:26] to cover the costs of those employees that collected the tolls, it seems that we're facing the same considerations as we [3:14:32] move forward in our modern-day traffic safety needs. I implore the county officials to reconsider the possible options to enhance [3:14:39] traffic flow and to alleviate congestion at choke points caused by flooding, [3:14:44] and complete the project in a meaningful and lasting manner that will last more generations to come. [3:14:51] if you can get this project done, this would be an awesome legacy to leave. [3:14:56] thank you so much for listening. I agree, government works when government works, [3:15:03] as long as you work within the constraints of rule. I appreciate that. Thank you for listening. [3:15:13] >> hi. My name is katarina rose, k-a-t-a-r-I-n-a. [3:15:18] I live at three gateway boulevard in hillsborough. I'm also here to request that you guys support the immigrant trust act, [3:15:28] and also to do whatever we can to help our neighbors. [3:15:33] it is so big, and the immigrant trust act should just be the beginning. Thank you. [3:15:42] also, this is not necessarily to the commission, but to everybody who's listening at home and here to please vote, [3:15:49] to have everyone you know vote, and please vote with your conscience. [3:15:53] thank you. [applause] [3:16:00] >> any phone calls, emails? >> I do have one phone call, believe it or not. [3:16:04] sir. Hello. Yes. You need to state your name and address for the record, sir. [3:16:11] >> sure. My name is carlos mendoza. I live at 23 mercury street, somerset, new jersey. [3:16:19] I'm calling tonight because I'm concerned that you, the commissioners, [3:16:23] are unaware about critical internal issues since the administrator has personally instructed employees not to talk with you directly. [3:16:31] dafing and morale have plummeted since 2020 due to ineffective. [3:16:38] >> sir, I just stopped for a second. [3:16:46] personnel matters are not subject really appropriate for public discussion. [3:16:53] if you want to talk in general, that's fine. But talking about a specific employee, I'm not going to allow. [3:17:02] >> did you hang up? >> yeah. [3:17:06] just for the record, employees have rights, regardless of who they are, [3:17:11] whatever level they're at. Personnel matters are not for open discussion without proper notice. [3:17:18] there's a case that governs that. General conversation about a department or a function of government, [3:17:26] perfectly permitted. No other comments. [3:17:33] >> seeing none, hearing none, is there a motion to close the public? [3:17:38] >> second. >> all in favor? >> aye. >> ayes have it.