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The pledge of allegiance, pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of Arizona, to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, on the God in the Middle East, for the liberty and justice for all.

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This meeting in the summer said, joining Board of Appeals, this means to help, pursuant to national march after 48, in the summer said, zoning bylaw.

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This meeting is being telecast live on SATV and the recordings available on SATV and also at YouTube.

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So, the format is, we'll read the application, we'll have the applicant come up, we'll

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represent, we'll come up, and present the application.

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The board will ask questions, and then once the board is done, ask questions, we'll open

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it to the public, and you'll be able to come up with any comments that you have either for

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or against it.

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The point you have to do though is you have to come up to the heath to the podium because

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of the television, and then when you come up just name and address, and when you want

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it, we'll follow a comment, okay, all right. So the first one, Benjamin Doyan, for

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69 Senate Street, some of that, says his map, C3, a lot, 119. Fission for a variance on

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the section five of the summits that it's only by a lot from the minimum front and side

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the ad setback requirements to allow for proposed front porch and garage addition within the

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residential district.

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Is the petition okay if you could just explain to us what you wanted to do when.

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I'd want to extend my kitchen and add a garage to my house and also make an actual front porch instead of

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just a four foot by four foot landing.

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Okay how much will you leave for you asking for?

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off the road frontage whatever you're asking for, really

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I

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need 25 feet up front, right?

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So if you're asking for, what's it seven and a half?

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This is not 13 for the garage.

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Okay.

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Yeah, like 12.

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So you want to be 13 feet away. So that was the 7x 25. So you would just need 12 feet and a garage and then for the porch.

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The porch would be less than that. And like I would have 19 feet.

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Okay. So you just need 6 feet for the porch.

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Okay.

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Did you get the site set back for the garage?

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Yeah.

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So you need relief on the side also.

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Just in one corner. Yeah, it's I've eight four

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Look for the both corners. Oh six points seven. Oh, yep

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Right, isn't not eight feet for an attached garage and that zone the back is eight point

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Six two it looks like the front is six point

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seven

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That's the mine,

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that's some of the neighborhood.

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Yeah, so this isn't all of the neighborhood.

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Yeah, that was one of the impressions that you feed for an attached garage from.

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I don't believe this season.

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It's 15 feet.

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I thought that was detached.

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No.

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It's 15 feet.

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No, it's the same.

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But it's like it says in the olden neighborhood.

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So this garage is going to be attached to that falls under that, right? So the setback is 10 feet.

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So basically, the site setback is 10, because you're expanding the house.

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I need to attach my garage.

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Yeah, and the one corner, I guess I would need four and change.

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So you need both, because you have,

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yeah, you got to get a point four and you got to get two points down.

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So you just need to be free for both sides.

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And I mean, look at the plan.

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There's no one the way you can do this.

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No, yeah.

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Right, no.

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I think he satisfies the requirement that there was a practical difficulty

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relating to the shape of the lot.

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So we're kind of working on chartered territory

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because on July 1st, the state passed amendments to the chapter 48 in the budget field.

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So this is the first meeting that we've had with these changes.

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So in these changes it says,

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one of the practical difficulties relates to the so-conditioned shape,

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with the Far East, such a land of structure.

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So obviously the shape is a lot.

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It's going to cause this to be, so you have not to be able to meet the CPAC.

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Oh yeah, there's no way to meet the CPAC.

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Some put a garage there or anywhere.

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And then the next condition is whether the strict enforcement would impose a financial hardship

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on the app, on the app, on the app, on the health and the petition.

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Is there any financial hardship in the creative of this one out of the room?

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If you need to do this?

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I mean, I would like to have a garage, you know, there is no garage in my house at all.

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And it would also be expanding my kitchen, my kitchen's pretty small too.

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Then, whether the benefits, supply of the available petitions, it can be achieved by some other method feasible

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for the petitions, but there's no other method you can do this.

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No, the other side of the house is even tighter.

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And then, whether the practical, whether the practical difficulty was self-created,

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Well, you bought the file as the sheet, so.

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And the house is built in 1920?

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Okay.

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Any questions on this?

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No, no, no.

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Anyone here with any comments for our against?

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Okay.

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Seeing there's no comments or clothes in the floor?

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So I'm fine with the floor.

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Yeah, I'm making motion.

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I'll be able to do the application to the floor.

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Second.

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Then on Miranda.

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Steve Mosa.

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Steve Cadder.

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So it takes about a week to get the decision and then there's a 20-day appeal period, then after the appeal period, there's no appeal, then you file the decision and register your needs.

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I think you should be all set.

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Okay.

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Okay. Thank you.

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Good luck.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Long Hill have, so I'm going to set a petition for a variance in the section five of the

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town of Somerset Zoning By-laws from the minimum lot area requirements to permit the

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piece.

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Now, in additional buildable lots within the residents of district.

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Good evening, Mr. Chairman, members of the board.

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My name is Bob McGurros.

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I address this four foxes away in Swansea Mass.

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I am the designer for Ms. Henson and with me tonight is Ms. Henson here in the audience,

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as well as Mr. Greg Dennis, who is the surveyor of the property.

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Mr. Chairman, if okay with you, we have a more updated plan.

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It should not be very much different than what you have before you right now.

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Would you accept it?

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Of the way you are showing the outline of the proposed structure in parcel number two.

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I could pass these.

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Please, thank you.

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We need a bit of this.

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Gentlemen, as you know, the current lot right now is approximately 11,550 square feet of my math.

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is correct. And my memory is on par. Our proposal is to subdivide a lot into two.

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Consisting of approximately 5,774 square feet on for about.

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Frontage is about 55 square feet. I'm sorry, 55 feet with a depth of 105 feet.

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Currently on the existing law, there is a single family dwelling.

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And we're proposing to do, excuse me, as to divide the law at the current of 11,000 square foot lot into two.

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So that Ms. Henson can construct a brand new single family home for herself.

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Our request before you today is a waiver of dimensional regulations or relief for both

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parcel number two, which contains the existing dwelling.

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The side yard set back there will be approximately 3.41 feet, both at the front corner of the

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lot and 3.47 feet at the rear corner of the lot.

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The front setback is like somewhere around 15 feet on there or abouts.

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The proposed new dwelling, we're looking for the mentional setback relief of side yards

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going from 15 to 10 feet on either side of the proposed structure.

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And 20 feet, along the front.

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My client's desire is due to her advancing gauge, is to construct

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a much smaller, more accessible home for herself, without having to go through an ADU process

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or things of that nature. And then be able to sell off the existing home for financial

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financial reasons to support the new project. Overall,

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it's an our opinion that the request

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kind of is fitting with the neighborhood and I can share this with you. We've taken an

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aerial photograph of the neighborhood and we can see that the homes in the area are pretty dense,

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densely packed. So we feel that the request really isn't much of a detriment in the context.

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Of the neighborhood we feel it will be fitting. The current law is, you know, somewhat probably

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consider it rather oversized for the existing neighborhood. So we feel that this is a, you know,

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and outrageous requests, but nonetheless, the process is to come before the board and seek

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an opinion and or concerns from the board, so we could dress them up like that.

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So one thing you really for life too also,

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because you're not going to create this life,

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because you're making it, you're not going to make it, you're making it, you're making

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a preexisting, non-conforming, but more non-conforming.

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Because I mean, you wouldn't have to set the X here, you don't have the area, you know, the fog, maybe we can see it, that legislation passes, they would have two conforming lines.

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Yeah, that hasn't passed.

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It's at the end of the ballot, you know, remember?

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So,

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the lots that these lots of basically 57-75, right, the proposed lots, right, correct.

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So, the other lots that are showing on this plane, the only area is that they're all similar.

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Yeah, I think they're all similar.

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If you look at the lots that's immediately behind parcel number two, the proportions of that

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I'm not a real identical.

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Right?

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A lot of the shits.

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I'll get right on top of it.

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Right on, I'm running.

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So yeah, yeah, it's not.

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I'm not going to make much of the difference in the neighbourhood.

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It's an over neighbourhood.

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This is awful, so.

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And if you generally would like up more than happy to give you this aerial photo,

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if you'd like to take a look at this, also.

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How are people doing here?

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Now we have familiar with the neighbourhood here.

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Just to give you the context of the, this is the, this is the, this is the mark. Right.

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That's a question. Oh, so move this over.

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So you're looking, so you're going to, these

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Scratches that are on, what's going to be the created lot. There's going to be removed.

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And you're looking to build a house.

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But I feed her big aim.

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Yeah.

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We've got nothing.

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We climb him up like in our summer day.

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But then that will be the increase of the five feet.

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Yeah, he can move this one.

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Yeah.

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One increase of three point.

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Whatever it is to five point.

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So this is the biggest machine of all this stuff.

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And change.

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I'll make it.

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I'll make it further away.

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Because even if that was happening, it's got to be 50 feet.

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This is going to have to come up with reasonable setbacks, the way it's written.

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Okay, so that would, to me that would not have even been left out.

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It's like that.

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There's no just light over piping.

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But then you're going to have a five foot stuff back here.

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It's just 10.

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Can move this five.

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That's five.

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So you got eight with that, but you only got five with this.

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Yeah, I'm not looking at the house.

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I'm looking at the lot.

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You're right.

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I'm not looking at the house.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Good.

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Good.

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Good.

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Just more this way.

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Maybe make it.

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And he puts himself down.

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So how does this apply?

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How does this new thing apply to this?

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It's for me.

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We went through this.

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They can, they can discuss financial hardship.

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They can also discuss the fact that they're,

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it's, it's in the interest of supporting the production of housing.

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It'd be creating another housing unit.

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That's what you have to look at.

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You're not changing anything.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Very congested.

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This is it.

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The circle block.

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Yeah.

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Circle block.

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Then if you look at the whole neighborhood, they're all on top of each other.

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They're all on top of each other.

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They're all on top of each other.

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Yeah.

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You don't shoot quite the lots at the same time.

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They're different times.

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There won't conteger slot, right now, the intent is to subdivide the existing 11,000 square

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foot, or more or less, not into the two losses.

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So this one here was a protecting one.

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I mean, some of those are around, let's see, that's the lots of record, if you had a, you already

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had like a pay up, this is a double common ownership, that's what that provision deals with.

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There's always been a provision, we used to call them orphaned lots, or lots of record,

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where a lot was not held in common ownership with any adjoining lot had at least 50 feet

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of frontage and 5000 square feet.

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That's always been on the books, but you always had to be able to prove to the building

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inspector that it was not ever held in common ownership of the adjoining lot.

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The, the, the matter that's on the ballot in November is a lot

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Looser if you have a lot that's 5,000 square feet whether it's been

247
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In held in counter ownership or not, but in a joining lot you're gonna be able to build a single family residence on it

248
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That's on the ballot. That's what's on the ballot

249
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My only question about this is

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That three and a half week that's going to stay with you existing on 3.4 feet.

251
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I don't think it's enough to go with that existing house because you can't even put a lot of up on that side of the house if you need to maintain it.

252
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So, for me, I think that a lot of lines should be, you know, maybe if they split it in half and it's six and a half feet, I need a side approximately.

253
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I was thinking, I was thinking of making the new set of 55, make it 50.

254
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And then the last five feet.

255
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And the last five feet to the old one.

256
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And the house will have to be just a little bit narrow.

257
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Yeah.

258
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And again, you could also shift the house this way.

259
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That's right.

260
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You could end up with more of an equidistant side yard for the new house.

261
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There you say and shift it like to this way.

262
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What we're trying to do is we're trying to get more and more of a side line for the existing house.

263
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So if you took the 55 foot, the width of the lot, you're going to go with five feet.

264
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Because you're going to have, like you said, the front edge is still bigger.

265
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It still has the front edge. Even if they pass that line, it's still having the front edge.

266
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It'll have the area, because it'll have at least 5,000 feet.

267
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But I knew I wanted to get a difference of the food that came out.

268
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But I thought I was moving, I'd like to see that little thing kind of like, like,

269
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I'm the answer.

270
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So before these changes, this would never get approved.

271
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I would never've opened this, I'd be answering right now.

272
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But with these changes, now I'll create this gray area with, like, what are we doing?

273
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Because this is green, housing, you know, does that satisfy the new requirement?

274
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It's going to cause a financial hardship because they're not going to be able to build this house.

275
00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:33,340
So, because the fact that they can't build the house and it's a financial hardship, you stated before that

276
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you wanted to sell the existing house to finance the new house.

277
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And the fact that my clients advancing in age and she can't support living in the new house

278
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would just like to make a more convenient, I think that new are home.

279
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So under the new, under the new statute, it would qualify.

280
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It would qualify, right?

281
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Because this would be the proven, that they have a financial hardship.

282
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That's practical difficulty.

283
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The state's making all of these new rules up.

284
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It's not the power.

285
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Perfectly, perfectly understand the position.

286
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That the board is, that the board is in.

287
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And coming before you also, if the neighborhood was a much more sparser, you separated

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neighborhood, you know, I personally would feel that it would be a more difficult decision,

289
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but since this neighborhood is a more compact, more mature neighborhood, if you will, the

290
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proposed application before you really isn't out of the, I guess the, the contextual

291
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Well, if it wasn't for the states ruling, this would probably not pass under the current

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regulations.

293
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But because of the new ruling that are coming down, it's not much that we can do.

294
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So are you willing to move that five feet over, make the front ditch 50?

295
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Right now.

296
00:26:15,250 --> 00:26:17,910
So would I still have 10 feet on each side?

297
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I still have to have to have a narrow house.

298
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It would you would.

299
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And I mean that would be up to you.

300
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It's quite honestly.

301
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It's just like the Wild West.

302
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So you know, I mean, it's entirely up to you whether or not you want it.

303
00:26:35,310 --> 00:26:38,170
I mean, if you don't want to move it and you want it,

304
00:26:39,150 --> 00:26:44,270
the way the plan is, it sounds like you want the new house to have ten

305
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ten foot setback from both, both side property lines.

306
00:26:48,830 --> 00:27:12,010
So, right now the front edge or the lot with of the lot is 55 feet, right, subtracting the 20 foot side yard setbacks would give us a net of about 35 feet, right, to, you know, of a footprint to design a home within and that 35 feet is an easy number to work with.

307
00:27:12,010 --> 00:27:19,910
Um, you're right. We could probably narrow what up a little bit, but then we probably be expanding more towards the rear, which would cause

308
00:27:19,910 --> 00:27:26,530
Um, some difficulty because there is an existing shed that's back there and or we would go towards the front.

309
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To make up that square foot difference, which now would encroach further into the front yard set back.

310
00:27:33,150 --> 00:27:36,510
What are you going for? Is it back in front? No, a 20 feet 20.

311
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It's one of the proposed houses, one of the proposed houses.

312
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It could, it could.

313
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So the house could be, you know, just about, it'd be 34.

314
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So the,

315
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if we were to expand the side yard setback from the existing home,

316
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to what would the board consider were acceptable.

317
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To a five feet, five and a half feet.

318
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Personally, I'm good with five feet five, so five. So that's what I came up with

319
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I think along the front. So we would go from six to six. I mean, and it doesn't

320
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And then quite frankly.

321
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My friend with these new rules. It doesn't mean that.

322
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the bill for 354. Because if you came back for a variance to build the new house and that

323
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was that that's a hardship that's under this new, that's the state passes it in November

324
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then you don't even need to come here, right?

325
00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:06,470
Yeah I mean if you don't even need the state to

326
00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:07,890
That's the thing.

327
00:29:08,030 --> 00:29:14,470
Under this right here, you could go ahead and try to create a housing unit, so it's just

328
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trying to make it easier now if they did it in this budget build.

329
00:29:18,350 --> 00:29:21,770
Yeah, I don't think you need to.

330
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That's just my opinion.

331
00:29:24,150 --> 00:29:25,550
But if you want to, that's up to you.

332
00:29:26,030 --> 00:29:30,410
And I don't think if you did, make that a little bit wider, it's going to cause you a hardship

333
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in the future.

334
00:29:32,090 --> 00:29:42,510
Because I think basically I hand up pretty much time because we're reducing the 55 feet of

335
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proposed frontage on parcel number one, which is what will be the newly created loss to

336
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52 feet.

337
00:29:49,710 --> 00:29:59,650
We'll give you a side yard setback from the existing home to the new proposed side property line

338
00:29:59,650 --> 00:29:59,930
Albert.

339
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:07,520
Approximately 5.47 feet at the rear and 5.41 feet at the front.

340
00:30:11,460 --> 00:30:24,340
Would the side yard set back from the proposed dwelling to the relocated lot reduce to the e-feet be acceptable?

341
00:30:24,340 --> 00:30:25,040
Yeah,

342
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:28,710
thank you.

343
00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:33,230
No, this is somebody wants to paint a house they can put a ladder up there.

344
00:30:33,230 --> 00:30:33,450
Yeah.

345
00:30:33,450 --> 00:30:34,810
You're right.

346
00:30:35,610 --> 00:30:36,990
So the lot would be 50.

347
00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:39,670
So the positive one would be 53C wide.

348
00:30:40,350 --> 00:30:42,430
Positive two would be 57.

349
00:30:44,230 --> 00:30:44,390
Right.

350
00:30:45,850 --> 00:30:47,190
Positive one would be 53.

351
00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:48,690
Positive two would be 57.

352
00:30:49,310 --> 00:30:49,830
Approximately.

353
00:30:50,430 --> 00:30:50,590
Yes.

354
00:30:52,410 --> 00:30:52,930
Yes.

355
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:09,480
Right, so you're asking if you went five feet from the existing dwelling.

356
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:10,160
Correct.

357
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:17,000
You would go two feet further from where is currently ten feet from the side you

358
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,160
that back of law 44, correct?

359
00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:20,240
Is that what you're asking us?

360
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:25,100
No, no, no, what we're opposing now.

361
00:31:26,300 --> 00:31:33,520
This discussion is front, the property line, a 55 feet,

362
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,600
for parcel number one, is reduced to 53 feet, correct?

363
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,720
That will increase the side yard set back from the existing dwelling

364
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:50,920
to the newly created property line, to 5.47 feet at the rear,

365
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,880
5.41 feet at the front, for the existing.

366
00:31:56,620 --> 00:32:02,480
Parts on number one, we would have 8 foot set back from the 10 to the 8.

367
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:03,540
That's what I was asking.

368
00:32:06,900 --> 00:32:13,880
So the proposed welding would go 2 feet over at

369
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:24,540
the end of the day.

370
00:32:24,540 --> 00:32:31,980
The distance between the existing and the proposed home would literally be the same.

371
00:32:32,340 --> 00:32:35,300
It's just the location of the property line.

372
00:32:35,300 --> 00:32:36,140
That would change.

373
00:32:37,940 --> 00:32:38,400
Correct.

374
00:32:39,740 --> 00:32:40,020
Correct.

375
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,120
The right.

376
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,840
The property line is going to move over.

377
00:32:47,420 --> 00:32:53,960
Which would then give the existing dwelling a little more space between the property line.

378
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,420
and then there is existing now.

379
00:32:55,420 --> 00:32:56,220
That is correct.

380
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,700
And then the proposed dwelling would go,

381
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,520
would be blown out two feet from the top.

382
00:33:01,740 --> 00:33:02,100
Correct.

383
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,800
Decrease it's an A correct.

384
00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:06,040
So it gives us a proposed footprint

385
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,660
for the new dwelling.

386
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,860
Yes, it will be tied around one side.

387
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,300
It'll go from 10 to 8.

388
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,020
The opposite side will remain 10 feet.

389
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,680
Front will remain 20 feet.

390
00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:21,280
And the back will stay at 32 feet.

391
00:33:21,340 --> 00:33:22,360
That is correct.

392
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,600
It's 35 feet of course, it's not changing.

393
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:34,440
Yeah, they can come.

394
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,400
I mean, there's nothing on the road.

395
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,000
Excuse me, would you like to speak to somebody?

396
00:33:40,460 --> 00:33:43,280
I don't know which one is there, but no one's not in the name of that.

397
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:44,840
I hear the type.

398
00:33:45,460 --> 00:33:45,680
I hear the type.

399
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:46,040
I hear the type.

400
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:47,700
Yeah.

401
00:33:50,660 --> 00:33:51,160
Okay.

402
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,820
Any other questions on that?

403
00:33:53,260 --> 00:33:53,960
Any other questions?

404
00:33:55,980 --> 00:33:59,500
Okay anyone here want to comment for or against

405
00:34:01,830 --> 00:34:07,510
you just have to come up

406
00:34:12,220 --> 00:34:12,300
to the police

407
00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:16,600
Do you think make the prayer I live on the a lot adjacent 193 long hill

408
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,460
So I'm objecting to this

409
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,300
Adieu or where is your lot because we don't have address

410
00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:27,480
We just now do you mind if I look at that? I don't have no, no, yeah, please

411
00:34:32,940 --> 00:34:36,760
proposed that this is the existing a lot of right here

412
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,960
you're right here so he's looking for a lot of 44

413
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:51,140
so yeah I'm objecting to this after just hearing the proposal here

414
00:34:52,020 --> 00:34:56,900
the argument made is that the houses are not not are all on top of each other so let's just throw

415
00:34:56,900 --> 00:34:59,920
another house on top of each other I don't think that's a very

416
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:03,560
reasonable excuse to just start throwing houses at what this house a year ago

417
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:08,520
The main reason why I purchased this house is to start a family in the law itself.

418
00:35:09,140 --> 00:35:14,680
My driveway is actually adjacent to that property line, so leaving my driveway of a day,

419
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,900
essentially with these new stipulations and proposals being made, it's going to be essentially a trailer.

420
00:35:19,820 --> 00:35:22,020
I don't see any other trailers built in the neighborhood.

421
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,300
I don't think anyone else in the neighborhood, we really want to especially meet going out in my driveway,

422
00:35:27,540 --> 00:35:30,040
leaving my garage and seeing a trailer in front of my residents.

423
00:35:31,580 --> 00:35:32,900
Why are you saying it's going to be a trailer?

424
00:35:32,900 --> 00:35:36,220
just based on the stipulations and size you're saying 35 feet 10 feet

425
00:35:36,220 --> 00:35:41,460
property side and each side of the house is going to be 35 feet wide right 35 feet

426
00:35:41,460 --> 00:35:47,320
wide is more or less not as wide as a standardized house based on I don't even know

427
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,560
my house was 35 feet

428
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:53,760
I would be absolutely I would be I would be okay 35 feet what I know that regardless

429
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,180
of the measurements if that's what the case may be and I know that I heard

430
00:35:57,180 --> 00:36:00,720
financial hardships being mentioned I looked it up the house was purchased in

431
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:02,720
$2,000 for $160,000.

432
00:36:03,820 --> 00:36:06,220
I don't know how much of financial hardship could be.

433
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:11,400
It's now 26 years since purchased state, and I know that that house is actually a two-family

434
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,540
residence, so there is a second income coming into that house.

435
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:18,760
So when it comes to the financial things, and I know there was another thing mentioned

436
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,060
of like her elderly age, I know that she lives in Florida as well.

437
00:36:22,540 --> 00:36:26,280
She goes to Florida for the summer, for the winter, she drives out to Florida, she plays

438
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,420
pickle ball, she's constantly outside cutting her grass, I just don't want there to be

439
00:36:30,420 --> 00:36:35,100
If a side being proposed and without the truth being heard, that's all I'm here for.

440
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:40,960
Just a problem that we're having, these new rules are not from the town of Somerset.

441
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:41,620
We're in a sense.

442
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:42,920
It's a state of mental health.

443
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:43,540
Absolutely.

444
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,300
And the ruling coming up is 50 foot frontage, a hundred feet deep.

445
00:36:48,340 --> 00:36:53,480
You can put a house on the wall, if you don't want that, if you don't want that, if you don't want that,

446
00:36:53,500 --> 00:36:54,540
that's right.

447
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:55,140
Exactly.

448
00:36:55,140 --> 00:36:59,300
But right now, we gotta go by what the state has approved.

449
00:37:00,260 --> 00:37:14,300
Right, and that's why I'm up here because I'm just expressing my opinion based off the things that I've heard that was constantly being emphasized and reiterated to everyone is those three things financial hardship, age and whatnot.

450
00:37:14,820 --> 00:37:21,840
I'm just here to just basically underlay the truth because I don't, again, I'm just trying to be heard as the adjacent property.

451
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,280
If it was up to me, I wouldn't want the property there.

452
00:37:25,300 --> 00:37:28,360
Again, I live right there, and something like that,

453
00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:29,960
I wouldn't want to walk out to a house being...

454
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:50,500
And especially because I have a garage, I have a detached garage, about 1100 square feet. And there's already an existing shed there, too. So it's just going to be all cluttered and whatnot. And if that's the case, I'll just sell the house like yesterday. Essentially, I don't want to be, again, just with the excuse of this houses on top of each other's building other house. That's just kind of insane.

455
00:37:51,460 --> 00:37:58,820
Now, after pertaining to these new rules that have already been passed, what does it specify

456
00:37:58,820 --> 00:38:01,740
in these new rules about the lot sizes?

457
00:38:05,540 --> 00:38:06,140
It doesn't.

458
00:38:06,140 --> 00:38:06,640
It doesn't.

459
00:38:07,740 --> 00:38:07,900
It doesn't.

460
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:16,240
It wasn't part of the rule, so it's a 7500 square foot, was it was changed up up?

461
00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:19,760
Was it there with 7,500 square foot with 7,5 feet of water?

462
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:31,420
No, that in the acts of 2024, the governor pushed through the ability to build on up to three

463
00:38:31,420 --> 00:38:39,500
lots, side by side by side, if they each had 7,500 square feet, 75 feet of frontage.

464
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,780
But that was, that was, two, two, two legislative sessions there go.

465
00:38:46,340 --> 00:38:48,180
That was the one that brought in the ADUs.

466
00:38:48,340 --> 00:38:48,540
Yeah.

467
00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:49,440
That was approved.

468
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,120
Looking at this.

469
00:39:03,460 --> 00:39:08,540
Everyone keeps talking about this new law that the state is put in,

470
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,340
concerning practical difficulty.

471
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,000
If you read this thoroughly,

472
00:39:15,860 --> 00:39:18,960
and I may be off base here, you can come correct me if I'm wrong,

473
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:26,520
Councillor. It says, the permit granting authorities specifically finds the strict enforcement

474
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:32,340
of the ordinance, or by law, we result in practical difficulty. Then it goes on to say,

475
00:39:32,540 --> 00:39:37,060
permit granting authorities shall weigh the benefits to the appellant of petitioner and to

476
00:39:37,060 --> 00:39:41,420
public interest, including the interest in supporting the production of housing against

477
00:39:41,420 --> 00:39:46,840
government to public safety, public health safety and welfare of the neighborhood.

478
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,460
It's a balancing test.

479
00:39:50,300 --> 00:39:55,260
So we just can't sit up here and blatantly say it falls on the practical difficulty.

480
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:01,220
We have to weigh what's best for the neighborhood and the petition is request.

481
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:04,740
Right.

482
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:10,200
So unless I, you know, I don't know if there were more people there out here speaking for

483
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:17,380
against it. But the balancing act, I mean, I'm not just going to say, okay, you can do this

484
00:40:17,380 --> 00:40:19,160
because of the new practical difficulty.

485
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,180
Because, in my opinion, we have to weigh the

486
00:40:24,180 --> 00:40:29,860
public interest and welfare of the neighborhood. That's what it says in this statement.

487
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:36,300
You read it correctly, right? Yeah, that's correct. So, strict enforcement of the ordinance

488
00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:42,780
of Bala would result in a practical difficulty and in making its determination, you have to

489
00:40:42,780 --> 00:40:47,080
weigh the benefits to the appellant. This is the public interest, including the interest

490
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:52,240
in supporting the production of housing against the detriment to the public health safety

491
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:58,820
and welfare. So balancing Act 51 percent, 49 percent, that's the scale.

492
00:41:03,700 --> 00:41:06,280
It's not the

493
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:16,060
in adding a housing unit versus whether it's going to be detrimental to the neighborhood in either public health safety or welfare.

494
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:25,440
Correct. And when I look at that map or the picture that I'll take in the aerial map of the neighborhood,

495
00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:31,520
and then I look at what we've presented with by the wonderful state of Massachusetts.

496
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:37,620
It's, I kind of have to,

497
00:41:39,820 --> 00:41:45,260
I mean, I'm listening to both sides and this gentleman in my opinion,

498
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:51,780
it's only me speaking, kind of makes a little sense to me because when we look at that

499
00:41:51,780 --> 00:41:58,000
aerial map and we say that all the houses are densely populated, that's true.

500
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:03,680
But do we want to increase that by adding another dwelling to the neighborhood?

501
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,600
That's a legitimate question, right?

502
00:42:05,740 --> 00:42:07,700
Do we want to do that?

503
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,380
And he brings up some good points.

504
00:42:11,740 --> 00:42:15,540
I'm not saying that, I'm swayed one way or the other yet.

505
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,260
I'm just taking in all the information.

506
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:27,260
But I think it's not a good practice for us to look at our aerial map and say that just

507
00:42:27,260 --> 00:42:29,760
because this neighborhood is densely populated.

508
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:32,240
And we have this head before us.

509
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:37,640
we have to read what it actually says and do the balancing act and do we really want to

510
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:44,020
add another congested building to already congest the neighborhood. That's what I'm thinking

511
00:42:44,020 --> 00:42:48,540
right now. I don't know how my board members feel but that's how I'm thinking right now after

512
00:42:48,540 --> 00:42:53,800
hearing this gentleman come up to the microphone. So that's why we listen to both sides of the

513
00:42:53,800 --> 00:43:01,340
proposed petition. I just wanted to clarify that for my board members because I've been hearing

514
00:43:01,340 --> 00:43:03,140
a lot of practical difficulty, practical difficulty,

515
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,400
practical difficulty, practical difficulty.

516
00:43:05,380 --> 00:43:07,200
And I'm not going to beat a dead horse,

517
00:43:07,580 --> 00:43:09,820
but I said what I wanted to say,

518
00:43:10,700 --> 00:43:12,160
and I want to make my board members aware,

519
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,240
but that it is a balancing act.

520
00:43:14,340 --> 00:43:17,440
We have to take a look at what we have the ability

521
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,380
to approve and weigh that against

522
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,840
where it's proposed to go.

523
00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:27,340
And that's all I wanted to add to that,

524
00:43:27,380 --> 00:43:30,500
because I don't like the whole practical difficulty

525
00:43:30,500 --> 00:43:35,400
being thrown around like it's a rubber stamp like we have to go ahead and do it because the state has

526
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:42,320
said it's a practical difficulty. We as a local authority have to do that balancing act to make sure

527
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:49,880
it's not a detriment to the neighborhood and I right now feel that I don't know if I'm comfortable

528
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:57,360
adding another proposed building to an already congested and densely populated neighborhood.

529
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,640
That's where I want to leave it.

530
00:44:01,580 --> 00:44:06,480
And actually, when looking at the lots,

531
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,980
and the specific lots close by in the neighborhood,

532
00:44:09,700 --> 00:44:13,160
it's about 50, 50, where there's a lot of lots

533
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,040
and lots that are about the same size.

534
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:20,460
So it's not like 90% of it of all the small lots.

535
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,600
I mean, there are a lot of lots of the original size

536
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,520
a lot. It's a lot of similar ones on the plant.

537
00:44:32,020 --> 00:44:37,420
Great. To go further on that, you look at the lot that this gentleman lives in. It's

538
00:44:37,420 --> 00:44:42,200
almost the same size as the lot that the proposed dwelling is going to go. And if you look

539
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:48,500
behind that, behind the residents of the proposed building that lot is similar to the lot, the

540
00:44:48,500 --> 00:44:54,740
two lots is the exist right now. So I just wanted to make that point to my colleagues that

541
00:44:54,740 --> 00:44:59,780
all remembers just to keep that in the back of your mouth because it's a balancing act

542
00:44:59,780 --> 00:44:59,980
then we...

543
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,580
This is a little authority, you have to weigh the scales, and make a determination based on what we

544
00:45:06,580 --> 00:45:12,120
have presented to us. I don't think it's a good thing to say, practical, difficult, and then

545
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,300
throw another line, highly densely populated area. That's just my call.

546
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:23,620
So on this plan that it gave us, there's eight lots. There will be similar insights to the ones

547
00:45:23,620 --> 00:45:29,920
They're going to create and five lots of non-accluding the undivided lot that they came in.

548
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:35,860
So I don't, this is just my opinion, that neighborhood, I don't think these new lots

549
00:45:35,860 --> 00:45:39,040
on a, on a character with the neighborhood, like frankly.

550
00:45:40,260 --> 00:45:46,800
Well, I mean, we didn't have these just new things, I don't know what they're doing,

551
00:45:46,900 --> 00:45:48,020
but we can sit in this for the answer.

552
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:09,480
Mr. Chairman.

553
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,500
This says, so this thing says, this is, this is,

554
00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:25,960
hand out you gave us with that yellow one right. So it says a permit granting authority may still consider whether the practical difficulty relates to soil condition and the light, but that is no longer the only factor of work and consider and such practical.

555
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:38,780
So only effect to me in the question. Then it says that very in seek is no longer need to show that the force of the Bible would involve substantial hardship financial otherwise.

556
00:46:38,780 --> 00:46:43,340
Instead, they only need to show that strict enforcement would oppose the financial hardship.

557
00:46:44,220 --> 00:46:49,580
And the local permit granted are in what's considered, whether the applicant can otherwise achieve the benefits,

558
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,800
or whether the practical difficulty in compliance with self-create.

559
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:05,220
So, to me, this needs to be a conflict because they have stated it's a financial hardship.

560
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:14,720
But the difficulty is self-created by trying to subdivide this line.

561
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:15,560
All right?

562
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,260
That's one way to look at it.

563
00:47:17,260 --> 00:47:24,920
Another way to look at it is somebody has a parcel of land and they build their house.

564
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,260
I don't want to, maybe, write in the middle.

565
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,740
And then later on, they want to break a piece off.

566
00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:33,160
And I think we'd have to say, well, you chose the location of your house.

567
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,180
You created that hardship.

568
00:47:35,220 --> 00:47:36,520
That's another way to look at it.

569
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:42,880
Right. So, can I ask a question? So, why don't you want to go to the ADU route?

570
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,200
Because quite frankly, the ADU route,

571
00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:50,480
you know, will be a proof.

572
00:47:52,060 --> 00:47:57,600
I don't think anybody on this board can say that the ADU route would be denied.

573
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:03,880
Now, if you go for the ADU, okay, and if this new or is passed in November,

574
00:48:04,180 --> 00:48:06,120
then you automatically can split that line.

575
00:48:06,620 --> 00:48:11,200
And I was just going to present to the Board, you know, seeing that there's some difficulty

576
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,720
here, and I can kind of see that there are some cuts, not in that's a fairly constant

577
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:20,420
nation, but there's a difficulty here with potential new legislation, and then an enforcement

578
00:48:20,420 --> 00:48:26,400
right, you know, to please the Board, what we could do is propose to table this application.

579
00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:28,460
Yeah, okay, that's fine.

580
00:48:28,580 --> 00:48:35,620
Yeah, a lot will revisit the Board, the matter needs, that way, you know, we're maybe looking

581
00:48:35,620 --> 00:48:37,880
we had a clean slate of regulations here.

582
00:48:38,780 --> 00:48:41,940
So do you want us to continue this to a future date?

583
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:43,380
Yes.

584
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:44,340
Can you set the sign?

585
00:48:44,340 --> 00:48:45,100
Can you set it?

586
00:48:45,180 --> 00:48:45,420
Right.

587
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,620
That's a very significant extension.

588
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,420
What do you want to do?

589
00:48:51,420 --> 00:48:52,200
I'm talking to people.

590
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:53,900
I want to do that.

591
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:54,580
I want to do that.

592
00:48:54,580 --> 00:48:55,540
I would say sometimes maybe.

593
00:48:55,620 --> 00:48:56,240
I would say sometimes maybe.

594
00:48:57,020 --> 00:48:57,600
I would say sometimes.

595
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:58,980
I would say sometimes.

596
00:48:59,000 --> 00:48:59,380
I would say sometimes.

597
00:48:59,380 --> 00:48:59,800
I would say sometimes.

598
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,880
But you know, the board meets every other, every other week or twice a month.

599
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:09,280
I have another third, third, third, fourth, third, fourth, third, third, third. There we go, that'll be.

600
00:49:10,020 --> 00:49:13,360
That'll be fine, it'll be post-delection.

601
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,280
That'll be after the election.

602
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,340
There is a November.

603
00:49:23,540 --> 00:49:25,760
Then we can see where we are then.

604
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,340
Maybe if that passes, that will be perhaps an easier decision.

605
00:49:30,340 --> 00:49:38,700
Yeah, anyone else who wants to speak for against this before we that we closed this issue and continue it. Yes, sir

606
00:49:47,690 --> 00:49:52,590
My name is Tom Chippendil and I live at 172 Long Hill, which is directly across the street

607
00:49:52,590 --> 00:50:01,190
One of my biggest concerns is there's also a two-family home right on the side of here now that just changed hands as far as 10 it's go

608
00:50:01,190 --> 00:50:03,650
We got five vehicles parking out on the street

609
00:50:03,650 --> 00:50:07,810
Now, in this sense, in Bill's next door, I know she can probably park an A.R.

610
00:50:08,090 --> 00:50:13,210
The house she's going to sell couldn't end up with four or five, six cars out there.

611
00:50:13,730 --> 00:50:15,730
I drove fire apparatus for years.

612
00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:20,770
There's days that trash truck can't get up the street and there's days, the dumps, bus

613
00:50:20,770 --> 00:50:21,550
can't get up the street.

614
00:50:22,030 --> 00:50:26,470
I want to see a lot of one get up that street to, you know, if something goes on like

615
00:50:26,470 --> 00:50:26,730
that.

616
00:50:27,470 --> 00:50:32,310
And I don't think it's going to work, you know, as far as the neighborhood getting packed

617
00:50:32,310 --> 00:50:35,790
impact, there's not even a curve on her side of the road.

618
00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:39,870
For my house, her tenants were already parking here, which is fine.

619
00:50:40,490 --> 00:50:45,630
But now, if somebody takes that house over and has one or two kids with a car on each floor,

620
00:50:46,510 --> 00:50:52,750
we're looking at not getting up that street with that fire out there or school buses.

621
00:50:53,530 --> 00:50:55,970
There's many days she's blowing the horn with that school bus out there.

622
00:50:56,730 --> 00:51:00,850
And all of this, Barbara has people coming and going to her house all the time, they just

623
00:51:00,850 --> 00:51:05,930
walk out there, bottom of the park against the sidewalk like they should and it's just creates

624
00:51:05,930 --> 00:51:11,790
a problem and it could be an emergency problem one day if there is a fire on our street or

625
00:51:11,790 --> 00:51:15,990
rescues got to get up there because as you guys know the engines go with the rescues now,

626
00:51:16,770 --> 00:51:19,870
they don't move up and down most streets with cars parked on both sides.

627
00:51:20,990 --> 00:51:24,770
I agree, I mean that's a difficult road to navigate right now.

628
00:51:26,450 --> 00:51:31,070
It's somebody's on both sides, that's not even trying to get out of our driveway some

629
00:51:31,070 --> 00:51:36,530
days because of the vehicles and what the future holds with the other part of her property

630
00:51:36,530 --> 00:51:41,590
and she gives it up, and I could be six, seven, eight cars out there.

631
00:51:42,530 --> 00:51:42,710
Okay.

632
00:51:43,610 --> 00:51:44,050
Good.

633
00:51:45,310 --> 00:51:46,870
Sir, can you name one more time?

634
00:51:47,170 --> 00:51:48,010
Oh, I'm chipping the hook.

635
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:52,840
Okay, thank you.

636
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:53,460
Thank you.

637
00:51:53,460 --> 00:51:53,860
Thank you, sir.

638
00:51:54,460 --> 00:51:55,100
Anyone else?

639
00:51:58,230 --> 00:51:58,490
Okay.

640
00:51:58,490 --> 00:52:06,950
So we'll continue this to November meeting with right now, I think it's going to be a third third, there's

641
00:52:11,500 --> 00:52:12,560
like

642
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:17,900
The motion that we continue this to law next. No, November the next extension to answer

643
00:52:17,900 --> 00:52:24,460
Yeah, so we will need an extension so if we continue this to November 19

644
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,180
we will probably need an extension

645
00:52:27,180 --> 00:52:28,360
into December

646
00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:42,060
Civil completed President state office, December 30, August 18th we only have 100 days, right? So December 30th, we needed to

647
00:52:42,060 --> 00:52:47,900
extension to December 31st, okay. That's right. Good. Good. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

648
00:52:47,980 --> 00:52:56,760
Appreciate it one more time. I will make the motion that we continue this hearing to November 19th, 26.

649
00:52:57,980 --> 00:52:58,460
Second.

650
00:52:59,060 --> 00:52:59,340
Second.

651
00:52:59,720 --> 00:53:00,660
Steve Moverside.

652
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:02,380
Steve Catara.

653
00:53:02,780 --> 00:53:03,100
You know.

654
00:53:03,620 --> 00:53:03,860
Okay.

655
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,060
We just need to take a brief recess.

656
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,120
Can't send the pollion for 300 re-street summitset.

657
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,700
Fishing for a variance in the section 5, the town summitset zoning by-laws.

658
00:56:34,380 --> 00:56:40,040
On the minimum, a lot of area requirements permit the creation of an additional buildable lot within the residence of the district.

659
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:41,640
It is me everyone.

660
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:44,700
Just speak up a little bit.

661
00:56:44,700 --> 00:56:46,300
I can't hear you.

662
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:47,480
Could it be everyone?

663
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:48,660
Yeah.

664
00:56:48,660 --> 00:56:49,800
My name is Kansen Napoleon.

665
00:56:50,420 --> 00:56:54,880
I just bought the three family in 300 street and so on a set.

666
00:56:55,380 --> 00:56:58,980
The main goal was to be able to build something for myself.

667
00:56:59,380 --> 00:57:03,280
My three kids and the big light and the back of that property.

668
00:57:07,370 --> 00:57:07,790
Do you have a clue?

669
00:57:08,830 --> 00:57:09,870
This is like this.

670
00:57:10,790 --> 00:57:11,470
Do you have a clue?

671
00:57:12,250 --> 00:57:14,850
Help me get a server for that property.

672
00:57:40,730 --> 00:57:46,840
Yeah, so we have what we would need is, where do you want to divide this lot?

673
00:57:49,380 --> 00:57:54,560
It's basically the back part, the people families in the front of the property.

674
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:57,920
These families here?

675
00:57:58,100 --> 00:57:58,260
Yes.

676
00:57:58,780 --> 00:58:00,860
This is the lot you want.

677
00:58:00,940 --> 00:58:01,100
Yeah.

678
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:02,520
Go to George Street.

679
00:58:02,900 --> 00:58:04,540
So this line will front on George Street.

680
00:58:04,940 --> 00:58:05,060
Yes.

681
00:58:05,060 --> 00:58:05,240
Okay.

682
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:06,440
Yes.

683
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,500
Another make sure we had to raise a hundred right there.

684
00:58:08,740 --> 00:58:10,000
You know you were three families.

685
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,940
I did some rough math that he cuts it this way.

686
00:58:16,540 --> 00:58:21,560
You're going to have approximately 15-5 here and you'll have 22-5 in the back.

687
00:58:27,070 --> 00:58:29,470
There's another hundred to defeat on George Street.

688
00:58:29,710 --> 00:58:30,910
So it says his head?

689
00:58:32,770 --> 00:58:33,830
So what's he here for?

690
00:58:39,650 --> 00:58:43,370
So the reason why you're here is this lot,

691
00:58:43,370 --> 00:58:47,670
the front-on-reed tree would not be at the end of the 20,000 square feet.

692
00:58:47,970 --> 00:58:56,070
So that, you're right, so the request here is to create this lot on a re-street, and a lot

693
00:58:56,070 --> 00:58:58,270
will be less than 20,000 square feet.

694
00:58:58,930 --> 00:58:59,130
Correct.

695
00:58:59,550 --> 00:59:00,610
Yeah, not a 30,000.

696
00:59:01,730 --> 00:59:02,410
Yeah, something.

697
00:59:03,330 --> 00:59:04,570
Yeah, it's like 38,700.

698
00:59:04,930 --> 00:59:06,050
Yeah, it's like 7,700 is missing.

699
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:14,700
So what we would need is a plan that shows the subdivision from the, from the, of,

700
00:59:14,700 --> 00:59:22,580
from the surveyor so they would show what the new lot, the two new lots, what the

701
00:59:22,580 --> 00:59:27,460
end it would be on each one. Like I mean, right now we can roughly draw a line

702
00:59:27,460 --> 00:59:32,000
across like this but that may not be what you want to do. We don't want to

703
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:36,560
tell you what to do. From the look of it, I think that's really the best thing to do.

704
00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:37,780
Yeah, I agree with that.

705
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,660
But we would need a plan to just show this

706
00:59:42,660 --> 00:59:51,120
and some divided from the surveyor and then the plan to show the area of each lot.

707
00:59:51,260 --> 00:59:56,260
So like the other one, one lot was able to possibly, one was able to possibly, one was able to possible to.

708
00:59:56,620 --> 00:59:59,460
Okay. And then we would need that because...

709
01:00:00,140 --> 01:00:08,800
If you did that, and you would have the required front of John Joseph for one of the lines, you have the required front of John Joseph for one of the lines, you have the required front of John Joseph for the other lines.

710
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,200
The only thing you would be sure of the area for the line that did.

711
01:00:14,020 --> 01:00:17,000
The other house is pre-existing, as far as setbacks.

712
01:00:17,620 --> 01:00:25,860
Yeah. And then he probably shows us show us the footprint of the new dwelling, to ensure that he could adhere to those setbacks.

713
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:26,420
Yeah.

714
01:00:27,900 --> 01:00:31,180
So you would rough the surveying this way roughly.

715
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,960
Like there would be some kind of dash line like this.

716
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,600
There would be the setbacks that I would show the house inside the setback.

717
01:00:39,460 --> 01:00:43,960
And then that way it would just show the board that it's a bit of a view building.

718
01:00:44,380 --> 01:00:44,840
It's a bit of a view building.

719
01:00:45,380 --> 01:00:50,940
And as long as you're within that envelope because you've got to maintain this in 25 feet in the front,

720
01:00:51,140 --> 01:00:54,220
you've got 15 feet inside and the back.

721
01:00:54,220 --> 01:01:01,580
15 in the back. So if you're if you're surveyor can put that on the plant then we know that you're going to comply with all of the setbacks

722
01:01:02,260 --> 01:01:04,460
Man, you will move like he'll comply with area

723
01:01:07,740 --> 01:01:12,100
But that's what we would mean, but I think that's a new one

724
01:01:12,100 --> 01:01:17,840
And you want to construct a house. Yes a single family for myself on the one that's on George and just

725
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:23,440
No, I think I mean, I think that's doable. I do we just need a plan to show

726
01:01:24,220 --> 01:01:29,500
Like so, and then happens, it's like, it's very Frank said, just that the existing house on this

727
01:01:29,500 --> 01:01:34,600
laws, but, and the building has a lot on this law, and that way, which is, you know,

728
01:01:34,780 --> 01:01:36,620
they will know you won't be able to have the relief.

729
01:01:37,700 --> 01:01:37,980
Okay.

730
01:01:37,980 --> 01:01:38,880
What's the board?

731
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:40,460
What's the deal with it?

732
01:01:40,620 --> 01:01:50,900
You're willing to grant this and have a condition contingent upon the surveyer submitting

733
01:01:50,900 --> 01:01:54,010
a plan to me with all of these indications on it?

734
01:01:55,660 --> 01:01:56,560
I don't know.

735
01:01:57,540 --> 01:01:58,720
No, I won't see it.

736
01:01:58,880 --> 01:01:59,980
I won't see it.

737
01:02:00,020 --> 01:02:02,100
I would like to see it up there.

738
01:02:02,460 --> 01:02:03,600
Yeah, I would like to see it up there.

739
01:02:08,690 --> 01:02:11,750
Just because, just because, like, right now,

740
01:02:12,250 --> 01:02:14,630
like, I agree with you, a hundred percent.

741
01:02:14,770 --> 01:02:17,970
This probably makes the most sense some line like this.

742
01:02:17,970 --> 01:02:20,490
But just to keep us empty now, tap and just, you know,

743
01:02:20,590 --> 01:02:23,790
and there's some other way that you're going to do this.

744
01:02:23,790 --> 01:02:28,430
And then I think that if we got the plans, I think that would be.

745
01:02:28,610 --> 01:02:29,570
I feel welcome.

746
01:02:29,970 --> 01:02:30,510
Yeah, me too.

747
01:02:32,870 --> 01:02:35,330
So we're going to continue this to both.

748
01:02:35,330 --> 01:02:36,110
We'll see if anybody's here.

749
01:02:36,270 --> 01:02:36,630
All right.

750
01:02:37,830 --> 01:02:39,250
Anything else you want to have?

751
01:02:39,290 --> 01:02:39,490
No.

752
01:02:39,790 --> 01:02:40,230
That's right.

753
01:02:40,650 --> 01:02:40,870
OK.

754
01:02:41,690 --> 01:02:42,490
Anyone here?

755
01:02:42,570 --> 01:02:45,090
How much for against this?

756
01:02:45,130 --> 01:02:46,150
I just like to see the plan.

757
01:02:50,290 --> 01:02:51,270
He's going to see the plan.

758
01:02:51,950 --> 01:02:53,290
I don't believe he has the frontage.

759
01:02:53,990 --> 01:02:55,970
Because he has the shed that's there.

760
01:02:55,970 --> 01:02:59,030
You just have to come up and go up to it.

761
01:03:02,190 --> 01:03:04,130
I can only tell you guys.

762
01:03:04,850 --> 01:03:09,270
I can only tell you this about the front edge according to this plan.

763
01:03:09,510 --> 01:03:10,430
He has the front edge.

764
01:03:12,050 --> 01:03:12,490
Yeah.

765
01:03:14,550 --> 01:03:14,810
Okay.

766
01:03:15,770 --> 01:03:17,290
Just to address your comment.

767
01:03:17,730 --> 01:03:19,890
According to this plan, he has the front edge.

768
01:03:21,670 --> 01:03:23,030
Even with the shadow.

769
01:03:23,450 --> 01:03:23,670
Yeah.

770
01:03:23,670 --> 01:03:33,630
Yeah, he has a front of the sound. Yeah, anyone else? Okay, there were motion taken here. I make a motion. Are we going to do this next month?

771
01:03:34,930 --> 01:03:35,170
Yes

772
01:03:36,350 --> 01:03:44,620
That should be ready. All right. Thank you. We make I make a motion to continue this until I next being I October 22nd

773
01:03:45,580 --> 01:03:50,740
So yeah, thank you. See you all the second. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, you think you meet that

774
01:03:50,740 --> 01:03:55,000
I might. Yes, definitely. I'm still Greg. I think is there on? I couldn't.

775
01:03:55,100 --> 01:03:57,740
Axon for help. Maybe that I'll do it here.

776
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:00,380
No problem. We have time to state.

777
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,640
We don't need extension. We've got plenty of time.

778
01:04:03,780 --> 01:04:04,380
Yeah, we have to.

779
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:06,640
Okay, thank you. Thank you so much.

780
01:04:16,260 --> 01:04:17,220
Okay, next.

781
01:04:19,780 --> 01:04:22,620
Steven and Denise Shagman for 165 Vullustree.

782
01:04:22,620 --> 01:04:25,500
the Census map A-13-63.

783
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,260
Fission for a variance on the section five of the town of Somerset,

784
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,060
zoning by laws from the front and side,

785
01:04:32,220 --> 01:04:36,000
set back requirements to erect a 24 by 32 foot steel garage

786
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,800
on the west side of the property within the residential district.

787
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,000
This is thank you, Attorney Juan.

788
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:45,540
This is the same thing.

789
01:04:51,030 --> 01:04:52,470
Good evening, Mr. Chairman.

790
01:04:52,730 --> 01:04:55,330
Members of the Board for the record attorney Thomas Kilon

791
01:04:55,330 --> 01:04:59,550
on behalf of the petitioners and property owners, Stephen and Denise Shagnan.

792
01:04:59,730 --> 01:05:02,850
The property at issue is 165 Butler Street.

793
01:05:04,290 --> 01:05:11,610
It is what I would consider a development that was one of the older ones in town.

794
01:05:12,430 --> 01:05:16,490
It has had a lot of multiple tiny lots.

795
01:05:17,250 --> 01:05:22,050
Their lot is a combination of four lots, kind of like these old subdivision plans where you

796
01:05:22,050 --> 01:05:24,590
get to choose kind of how many lots you'd like to buy.

797
01:05:24,590 --> 01:05:26,630
So their square footage just comes out there.

798
01:05:26,790 --> 01:05:29,990
Be 16,600 square feet.

799
01:05:30,730 --> 01:05:36,010
They do have adequate front-age, a long-bought-ler street.

800
01:05:36,870 --> 01:05:39,770
And they have an existing single-family home without a garage.

801
01:05:40,410 --> 01:05:43,730
What they're proposing to do is construct a steel frame garage

802
01:05:43,730 --> 01:05:46,210
on the property, as you can see, it's shown on the plan.

803
01:05:46,710 --> 01:05:48,590
Their property is a corner lot.

804
01:05:49,310 --> 01:05:51,110
So where it sits at, it's laid street.

805
01:05:51,210 --> 01:05:54,110
If this was a typical side yard, the 15 feet

806
01:05:54,110 --> 01:05:59,970
that they're showing it would comply because it's a corner lot, the 25-25 feet is required

807
01:05:59,970 --> 01:06:00,670
there.

808
01:06:00,990 --> 01:06:07,850
And then their rear yard setback is 13 feet with the requirement being 15 feet.

809
01:06:07,970 --> 01:06:14,670
But again, this is a house and lot that predates the existing zoning, this house was constructed

810
01:06:14,670 --> 01:06:22,070
in 1965 and going back to the towns, old bylaws, and I do have a little cheat sheet.

811
01:06:22,070 --> 01:06:26,590
we had one of our one of our old bylaws at the office.

812
01:06:30,370 --> 01:06:34,990
I thought that one of what that one was.

813
01:06:35,530 --> 01:06:35,550
But this was.

814
01:06:35,550 --> 01:06:37,590
It was pleased to have that.

815
01:06:37,970 --> 01:06:39,230
I thought that went away.

816
01:06:39,790 --> 01:06:40,790
Oh, they did superseded.

817
01:06:42,410 --> 01:06:45,650
But it's always a good idea to see what they were.

818
01:06:45,750 --> 01:06:46,710
So for housing.

819
01:06:47,470 --> 01:06:47,830
Right.

820
01:06:47,910 --> 01:06:52,550
So for houses built in 1963, what we're actually proposing

821
01:06:52,550 --> 01:06:57,750
would would comply from a rear yard set back stand point, obviously we're still dealing

822
01:06:57,750 --> 01:07:04,790
with the front yard issue under the current zoning being 25 feet because it's a corner

823
01:07:04,790 --> 01:07:05,270
lot.

824
01:07:05,910 --> 01:07:06,790
The property additional.

825
01:07:06,790 --> 01:07:07,950
The staff is certainly.

826
01:07:10,150 --> 01:07:17,490
I believe, maybe totally wrong, I believe, that in previous applications,

827
01:07:20,820 --> 01:07:21,160
the opinion

828
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:29,100
was offered, that the front is where the house faces, you know, you want to walk right

829
01:07:29,100 --> 01:07:29,980
in the sides.

830
01:07:32,430 --> 01:07:43,870
This is not a front centback, it's a side setback. So this house faces here, it's pretty, it's a slave street, will be considered to be a side yard.

831
01:07:45,310 --> 01:07:47,670
So you're good the 15 feet?

832
01:07:48,850 --> 01:07:50,670
I won't quarrel with the police court.

833
01:07:58,550 --> 01:08:01,710
That's been our consistency in these kind of corner lots.

834
01:08:02,070 --> 01:08:06,310
Yeah, so I just know one that with the front door is the way the right, but the way the

835
01:08:06,310 --> 01:08:11,710
bylaw talks about it is that a corner lot they use both streets they consider to be for front

836
01:08:11,710 --> 01:08:12,330
yard purposes.

837
01:08:12,910 --> 01:08:18,650
So I was just going by the literal reading of the bylaw, but because you have a house existing

838
01:08:18,650 --> 01:08:21,850
on. Right. The front is on. The other street.

839
01:08:22,170 --> 01:08:23,550
It's not on. Right. Not on.

840
01:08:23,570 --> 01:08:24,410
On the bottom. Right.

841
01:08:25,570 --> 01:08:29,690
So, um, for practical purposes, then if that's the position that the board has taken

842
01:08:29,690 --> 01:08:34,370
in the past, we're really talking about a rear yard set back in up to feet.

843
01:08:34,450 --> 01:08:35,470
Two feet. Right.

844
01:08:36,210 --> 01:08:39,690
Yeah. I know there's been a lot of talk about the revision to 40A and,

845
01:08:39,810 --> 01:08:43,150
like, section 10 specifically in talking about the practical difficulty.

846
01:08:43,510 --> 01:08:47,130
What I bring to the board is attention is that, um, and it looks like

847
01:08:47,130 --> 01:08:50,890
at least Mr. Catara, it has an aerial, but I do have some

848
01:08:50,890 --> 01:08:54,130
aerials of the neighborhood, the house has a little red pan on it.

849
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:04,100
So you know, the house has a little red pan, I think I might never go.

850
01:09:05,060 --> 01:09:09,760
So there are a number of mature trees that's an existing shed, a swimming pool.

851
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,500
I believe this is like a small circular fire pit on the property.

852
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:23,340
And where they're going to situate this garage is a kind of old, I want to use term wage,

853
01:09:23,820 --> 01:09:31,620
but place strategically, in between two trees, trees, shed, there are some rather large rocks on the property.

854
01:09:32,460 --> 01:09:37,880
It's their goal to not have to take down any trees, which would be a financial hardship to them.

855
01:09:38,140 --> 01:09:43,520
Their goal not to have to jackhammer up any of these large rocks, again, which would be a financial hardship to them.

856
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:53,900
So I was suggested to board when you're looking at this balancing test that then placing a garage on this when I'd call rather large side yard.

857
01:09:54,400 --> 01:10:00,820
It's not really going to have any kind of negative impact on any of the neighboring properties and there is a benefit to obviously the shagnins.

858
01:10:01,300 --> 01:10:10,080
Their current house does not have a garage structure, which is unusual for modern times and they would like a place to store their vehicles.

859
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:15,960
And you're going to access this off slowly so you can correct the garage and we access

860
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:17,320
off slowly.

861
01:10:17,500 --> 01:10:17,520
Correct.

862
01:10:17,780 --> 01:10:17,840
Yes.

863
01:10:17,980 --> 01:10:19,720
How high is this garage going to be?

864
01:10:19,740 --> 01:10:20,200
13.

865
01:10:22,340 --> 01:10:22,900
13.

866
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:25,100
13.

867
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:25,700
I mean,

868
01:10:36,050 --> 01:10:41,410
I think the two foot ask is, no quote, minimal.

869
01:10:42,270 --> 01:10:43,070
That's a diminimus.

870
01:10:43,070 --> 01:10:43,510
Yeah.

871
01:10:43,630 --> 01:10:43,750
Yeah.

872
01:10:44,430 --> 01:10:45,090
I agree.

873
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,840
It's a fairly long lot in terms of its shape, depth wise.

874
01:10:55,840 --> 01:11:01,480
it's 85 feet, and that really what's creating this, the set back from there.

875
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:06,520
We're going to be able to put that garage between those two big trees.

876
01:11:08,260 --> 01:11:09,480
Just fits in there.

877
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,040
Give me three feet off the rock.

878
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:16,680
And maybe it's about the one five.

879
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,400
About the two feet right up against the rock.

880
01:11:23,020 --> 01:11:24,500
Right, we did have the right on board.

881
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:34,820
So, is it practical difficulty relating to the shape and structures on the lot?

882
01:11:40,430 --> 01:11:41,510
So, I'm finding it.

883
01:11:41,510 --> 01:11:41,830
Yeah, I'm finding it.

884
01:11:42,090 --> 01:11:43,130
Anybody have any questions?

885
01:11:45,570 --> 01:11:46,110
Anyone?

886
01:11:46,890 --> 01:11:48,570
How much floor are you against?

887
01:11:49,930 --> 01:11:52,970
Okay, if you do, there's no comment for a close-up.

888
01:11:53,630 --> 01:12:01,800
I make a motion except the position is this, then I make a motion, the position is a motion

889
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:03,040
to go ahead and prove it.

890
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:05,040
Oh, second.

891
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,440
Just for the side go, it's set back.

892
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:09,800
That's all you need.

893
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:10,700
That's all you need.

894
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:14,080
I want to make sure that's in the motion for the side go, it's set back.

895
01:12:15,060 --> 01:12:17,020
But we can put a finding in the case.

896
01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:19,880
I was just, I'm sorry.

897
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:20,000
I'm sorry.

898
01:12:20,340 --> 01:12:22,240
We can put a finding in there, Steve,

899
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:29,300
That that that's that is a side yard set back and it's 15 feet so he complies with that side yard set back

900
01:12:30,300 --> 01:12:30,780
Yeah

901
01:12:30,780 --> 01:12:37,180
Right, I saw it from a slave street. Yes, please. I just want you to show that. So that the bill number is accurate. I can see that right so there's no confusion

902
01:12:37,180 --> 01:12:38,240
Thank you

903
01:12:38,940 --> 01:12:40,380
Second then on the end

904
01:12:40,380 --> 01:12:44,220
I see both a side. Steve Canter and I so

905
01:12:44,220 --> 01:12:47,720
I'm just a week 20 appeal period understood. Oh, I don't know

906
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,740
I'm great. Thank you. Thank you with all that

907
01:12:49,740 --> 01:12:50,800
Thank you

908
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:51,940
Thank you. Good luck.

909
01:12:59,220 --> 01:13:00,180
Okay, next.

910
01:13:02,830 --> 01:13:04,690
Yeah, and we have a letter.

911
01:13:05,330 --> 01:13:09,110
Elimance real estate LLC for 266 slates very Boulevard and

912
01:13:09,110 --> 01:13:10,530
Britain have Somerset.

913
01:13:10,530 --> 01:13:12,990
This is about B4, a lot 129.

914
01:13:14,150 --> 01:13:16,910
Partition for a planned development of the section 6.10

915
01:13:16,910 --> 01:13:19,570
The Somerset zoning bylaws to construct an operate

916
01:13:19,570 --> 01:13:24,310
A minor key car case centre, special permit of the section 7.5

917
01:13:24,310 --> 01:13:28,330
and 7.6 for the proposed use within the business district

918
01:13:28,330 --> 01:13:31,610
and a various pursuant to section five.

919
01:13:31,870 --> 01:13:35,550
The six point eight fully leaf from the required setback

920
01:13:35,550 --> 01:13:38,650
between the proposed building and slate-fairy boulevard.

921
01:13:39,910 --> 01:13:42,510
We have a letter from the planning board.

922
01:13:43,170 --> 01:13:45,870
Data September 23rd, 2026.

923
01:13:46,710 --> 01:13:50,390
To the zoning board of appeals, Steve Carterette Chair from planning board.

924
01:13:50,710 --> 01:13:52,950
We got a recommendation letter for a planned development

925
01:13:52,950 --> 01:13:57,190
from Lain-Ki-Kakia Center, 266 slates very well

926
01:13:57,190 --> 01:13:59,770
about a session about B4, a lot, 229.

927
01:14:00,490 --> 01:14:02,390
Please be advised that the meeting of the Planning Board

928
01:14:02,390 --> 01:14:05,530
held on September 22, 2020, 6th of board voted

929
01:14:05,530 --> 01:14:09,170
3 to 0 to 0 to wish you a favorable recommendation

930
01:14:09,170 --> 01:14:10,830
on the planned development for polls

931
01:14:10,830 --> 01:14:12,470
to subject to the following conditions

932
01:14:12,970 --> 01:14:16,910
for consideration by the zoning water repeals, landscaping.

933
01:14:17,410 --> 01:14:20,510
In consideration, the applicant requests for a 10-foot setback

934
01:14:20,510 --> 01:14:22,030
from Slate's very Boulevard,

935
01:14:22,670 --> 01:14:25,170
the side of the building facing Slate's very Boulevard

936
01:14:25,170 --> 01:14:27,310
shall be appropriately landscaped

937
01:14:27,310 --> 01:14:29,190
to screen and minimize the visibility

938
01:14:29,190 --> 01:14:31,190
of the existing white vinyl fence

939
01:14:31,190 --> 01:14:32,730
from the public way.

940
01:14:33,710 --> 01:14:34,490
Air conditioning.

941
01:14:35,490 --> 01:14:37,570
Air conditioning shall be installed and utilized

942
01:14:37,570 --> 01:14:38,810
for a lot of work activities

943
01:14:38,810 --> 01:14:41,650
to be conducted with the building doors closed

944
01:14:41,650 --> 01:14:43,050
during warm and month.

945
01:14:43,490 --> 01:14:45,990
In order to minimize noise and prevent sound levels

946
01:14:45,990 --> 01:14:48,270
from seeing the limits established

947
01:14:48,270 --> 01:14:50,470
by the applicable zoning by law.

948
01:14:52,290 --> 01:14:53,030
Snow storage.

949
01:14:53,750 --> 01:14:56,310
A suitable line of shall be installed beneath it.

950
01:14:56,310 --> 01:14:59,970
It doesn't need a snow storage area to prevent melting snow and associated runoff.

951
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:10,060
From infiltrating the ground to potentially impacting the embutting property, okay, that $2.94, it's very full of our sincerely Gary Simon to claim important.

952
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:12,540
Yes, sir.

953
01:15:12,980 --> 01:15:17,380
Good evening. My name is Daniel Diabrew. I'm an attorney with Brennan, Scottish U.N. Creskey.

954
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:27,360
My office is at 174th Dean Street, and Tauntan, also present as Lawrence Silva of Silver Engineering Associates and Milford.

955
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:32,940
It's a Prilis who would be the operator of the proposed development.

956
01:15:35,420 --> 01:15:41,320
And this concerns the lot, 266 slates, very boulevard at the intersection of Britain Avenue.

957
01:15:42,100 --> 01:15:45,740
And the proposed development is for an automobile repair shop.

958
01:15:46,900 --> 01:15:49,280
The lot is owned in the business district.

959
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,480
There is a house next door.

960
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:54,840
The house is also in the business district.

961
01:15:55,920 --> 01:16:00,640
The relief that we're seeking tonight from the Board of Appeals is

962
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:05,500
Plan Development Approval together with a variance and a special permit

963
01:16:05,500 --> 01:16:10,340
That would allow for the automobile repair shop to operate in the business district.

964
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:15,040
It's a plan development because it's new construction in the business district.

965
01:16:15,480 --> 01:16:21,080
Automobile repair shop is allowed in that district by special permit of this board.

966
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:32,720
And the variance request is to allow the setback along Slade's very boulevard to be ten feet rather than twenty-five feet.

967
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:46,120
The entrance to the business would be on Brighton Avenue, the rare of the building would face Slade's very boulevard, the front of the building would face Route six.

968
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:59,600
The plan calls for retaining wall along the neighboring property where necessary and a six-foot fence along a portion of that property as shown on the plan.

969
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:09,360
As you'll see on the plan, the parking lot does not extend behind the neighbor's house.

970
01:17:09,900 --> 01:17:13,340
The nearest parking space to the neighbor's house is 36 feet.

971
01:17:13,980 --> 01:17:17,280
The plan does designate an area there for snow storage.

972
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,280
The plan calls for an enclosed dumpster.

973
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:26,500
That would be near the front of the property in the middle of the parking spaces on the front of the property.

974
01:17:30,220 --> 01:17:35,500
And again, I know that the neighbor at one point had submitted a letter.

975
01:17:35,940 --> 01:17:40,820
And I just want to point out that the plan and the company that letter was a draft.

976
01:17:41,060 --> 01:17:45,120
And I believe prepared by another engineer, not Mr. Silva.

977
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:49,200
That's not the plan that we submitted or the revised plan that we've submitted.

978
01:17:49,780 --> 01:17:55,100
Our plan does not call for any parking spaces directly behind that neighbor's help.

979
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:03,890
The reasons for the relief requested, again, a strict enforcement of the bylaw would result in

980
01:18:03,890 --> 01:18:14,590
practical difficulty, in this case, right of way for slates, very boulevard. It has an 80-foot

981
01:18:14,590 --> 01:18:22,450
right of way. It's wider than what the paved area of that street is. So granting the variance

982
01:18:22,450 --> 01:18:31,430
in effect doesn't cause any damage to the idea of a 25-foot setback. There is, as a practical

983
01:18:31,430 --> 01:18:43,050
no matter a larger setback by that due to the width of the right of way, and, again, we would propose to plant trees in that right of way.

984
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:57,500
In this site was formerly a gas station, and it's my understanding that that had been abandoned for 10 years or more, and it was, I would call it a blighted site.

985
01:18:57,500 --> 01:19:05,020
The present owner of the property has invested substantial money into the property has taken

986
01:19:05,020 --> 01:19:08,020
down the formerly existing buildings.

987
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:16,280
He has relocated the water and sewer line that service the house next door.

988
01:19:16,860 --> 01:19:23,220
That alone was an investment of over $40,000 on his part to improve this property and make

989
01:19:23,220 --> 01:19:28,900
ready for an appropriate development in the business zone,

990
01:19:31,620 --> 01:19:36,000
so as a practical difficulty relates

991
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:43,460
to the shape of the lot. This site, and again, Mr. Civil will address you in a few moments,

992
01:19:43,780 --> 01:19:51,100
but I would suggest that this site has been designed as efficiently as it possibly could be,

993
01:19:51,100 --> 01:20:00,080
and if the relief is not granted tonight, it will not be purchased and developed as planned,

994
01:20:01,140 --> 01:20:05,960
and the money invested today will not be fruitful.

995
01:20:10,340 --> 01:20:15,100
And again, I would suggest that when you look at the plan, when you look at the shape,

996
01:20:15,100 --> 01:20:25,560
When you look at the size, there's just not another feasible method to put in the proposed development.

997
01:20:27,440 --> 01:20:37,140
I would point out Mr. Suprilyce is experienced in running an operation like this.

998
01:20:37,140 --> 01:20:45,380
operates a minor key and has for over 20 years in Rainham Massachusetts. He runs a good

999
01:20:45,380 --> 01:20:54,940
clean operation. This establishment in the town of Somerset, it would be a benefit to the town of

1000
01:20:54,940 --> 01:21:00,520
Somerset. It would provide a service to the residents of Somerset. It would not be detrimental

1001
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:10,780
in any way, for whatever way the board, we like, we like to give it, I know in the town

1002
01:21:10,780 --> 01:21:20,580
of Rainham, he was recognized by the Tontinary Chamber of Commerce. He was given recognition

1003
01:21:20,580 --> 01:21:28,300
by the town of Rainham, the Community Pride Award in 2020 for outstanding commitment to

1004
01:21:28,300 --> 01:21:35,760
betterment of our community. So I do think that speaks volumes as to what type of operation

1005
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,320
this is and what type of neighbor he would be.

1006
01:21:45,510 --> 01:21:50,270
All materials are properly stored in

1007
01:21:50,270 --> 01:21:56,290
disposal. Use tires are not stored on site. There is no storage of unregion motor vehicles.

1008
01:21:56,290 --> 01:22:01,070
all work takes place within the base.

1009
01:22:01,490 --> 01:22:03,050
There's no outside work.

1010
01:22:03,210 --> 01:22:07,010
There's no work that is completed in the parking lot.

1011
01:22:08,290 --> 01:22:11,010
So again, I would suggest under your bylaws,

1012
01:22:11,150 --> 01:22:14,030
the proposed development is not harmful or hazardous.

1013
01:22:14,910 --> 01:22:18,610
It will be economically and socially beneficial to the town.

1014
01:22:19,350 --> 01:22:24,510
The site has already been improved by removal of the blighted properties.

1015
01:22:24,510 --> 01:22:29,470
This is a responsible owner and a practiced owner with experience.

1016
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:44,300
We will run a clean and efficient operation. The proposed use is entirely consistent with the use in the business district, and does not cause a detriment.

1017
01:22:48,700 --> 01:22:58,440
At the planning board, there were a couple of concerns raised during the public comment, as to traffic.

1018
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:05,620
I would suggest the traffic is a non-issue.

1019
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:10,120
I mean, obviously, six is fully planned, fully developed.

1020
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:14,720
There's a robust set of lights at the intersection of root six

1021
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:18,940
at the intersection of slates, very boulevard, and great avenue

1022
01:23:18,940 --> 01:23:25,880
that is controlled, stop signs on three sides of that intersection.

1023
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:37,040
Mr. Surprilis would attest to you tonight that based on his experience with 20 years in the business

1024
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:44,120
a busy day for him would be of a 25 customers.

1025
01:23:45,300 --> 01:23:51,820
So over a 10 hour day, again, that would be two and a half cars per hour.

1026
01:23:51,820 --> 01:24:00,340
If you average total of the course of the day, even if you doubled that, which he says is not going to happen, would be highly, highly unlikely.

1027
01:24:01,180 --> 01:24:07,120
It would still only be 50 cars over a 10-hour period.

1028
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:21,800
So there's not any issue as to excessive traffic or traffic, increase, increase, and there's just no appreciable difference that will be caused.

1029
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:28,700
by this establishment, and certainly that would not be said of other establishments that

1030
01:24:28,700 --> 01:24:32,560
would be permitted in the business district that could be much, much busier.

1031
01:24:35,300 --> 01:24:43,340
In terms of noise, I know that there's a recommendation that air conditioning unit be installed

1032
01:24:43,340 --> 01:24:52,240
and that the pays be closed during business hours in the summer.

1033
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:58,160
I can tell you that that would be a deal killer for this project.

1034
01:24:59,700 --> 01:25:07,160
It would result in the project not happening, none of the benefits flowing to the town,

1035
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:11,660
but I would also suggest that the good news is that

1036
01:25:11,660 --> 01:25:13,780
That condition is completely unnecessary.

1037
01:25:14,660 --> 01:25:36,500
The town of Somerset has a very robust noise bylaw and that noise bylaw dictates exactly what the noise level can be at the property line, if the board of health enforces that bylaw and obviously the operation is going to have to comply with that bylaws.

1038
01:25:36,500 --> 01:26:02,640
So that problem that the planning board was attempting to address, I would suggest number one has already been solved and number two has been solved in a more efficient way and a more effective way than the installation of air conditioning and dictating to the business owner that the bays have to be closed that the doors to the bays have to be closed.

1039
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:10,000
I'd also suggest that installation of an air condition unit, a commercial air conditioning unit,

1040
01:26:10,660 --> 01:26:18,980
which then would operate under that condition and pose would operate all day, that type

1041
01:26:18,980 --> 01:26:24,400
of, and that would need to have to be on the roof or on the floor level, but that type

1042
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:34,080
of machinery would generate a constant noise that is far worse than the harm it's trying

1043
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:42,920
to prevent. And again, Mr. Surprilis would testify that any noise from the operation,

1044
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:50,260
he doesn't expect it to cause any difficulty for that immediate neighbor and certainly not

1045
01:26:50,260 --> 01:27:00,180
or anyone further away, again, that the project is designed so that the base face away

1046
01:27:00,180 --> 01:27:11,160
from the residential property, the face root six, and I would suggest that the noise

1047
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:23,100
by law is the solution to any concerns that you would have as to noise and, again, I think

1048
01:27:23,100 --> 01:27:26,260
that would be the beginning and the end of it.

1049
01:27:26,380 --> 01:27:33,520
He has to comply with that and he feels he will have zero difficulty in complying with the

1050
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:40,360
noise by law and he will be a good neighbor and will not cause the immediate neighbor or anyone

1051
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:52,880
else in the neighborhood any harm. The hours of operation would be 730 a.m. to 6 p.m. Monday

1052
01:27:52,880 --> 01:28:03,400
through Friday 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. on Saturdays, closed Sundays. There is no overnight work.

1053
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:05,360
There is no evening work,

1054
01:28:16,530 --> 01:28:20,930
I don't, I did print out if you would like to see the recognition

1055
01:28:20,930 --> 01:28:26,970
that he had received in connection with this other town, if you'd like to see it, that's yours.

1056
01:28:28,150 --> 01:28:32,090
Otherwise, Mr. Silva can give a presentation of the plan.

1057
01:28:32,610 --> 01:28:34,430
And then if there's any questions, we'll certainly take them.

1058
01:28:34,430 --> 01:28:35,210
Okay, good.

1059
01:28:35,390 --> 01:28:36,730
Thank you.

1060
01:28:36,730 --> 01:28:37,050
Thank you.

1061
01:28:38,070 --> 01:28:38,630
I'm sorry.

1062
01:28:39,750 --> 01:28:44,630
It's just so, because of the TV, the microphones are pretty good.

1063
01:28:44,670 --> 01:28:46,750
So, it just take him pick up the sound better.

1064
01:28:48,550 --> 01:28:50,750
It's never been said that I can't be heard, but that's okay.

1065
01:28:51,070 --> 01:28:51,570
No, no.

1066
01:28:52,090 --> 01:28:52,670
I'm sorry.

1067
01:28:53,170 --> 01:28:53,470
I'm sorry.

1068
01:28:54,290 --> 01:28:54,390
I'm sorry.

1069
01:28:55,430 --> 01:28:55,490
I'm sorry.

1070
01:28:55,490 --> 01:28:56,390
I'm sorry.

1071
01:28:57,810 --> 01:28:58,030
I'm sorry.

1072
01:28:59,490 --> 01:28:59,970
I'm sorry.

1073
01:28:59,970 --> 01:29:09,730
two years have been a civil, and our offices are in Bridgewater, 16, 15-bed fit street in Bridgewater,

1074
01:29:11,610 --> 01:29:18,350
and this site here, as we've designed it, was a challenging site in the sense that the shape

1075
01:29:18,350 --> 01:29:27,430
of the property is not a normal shape, it had its constraints, it has basically three right

1076
01:29:27,430 --> 01:29:33,770
ways and so therefore zoning setbacks became the issue and that's one of the reasons why

1077
01:29:33,770 --> 01:29:41,990
we're here before you full of the variance for setbacks. The setback as Dan was saying to you is

1078
01:29:41,990 --> 01:29:47,410
the variance requesting is to the slates very bull of odd side of the building which is really

1079
01:29:48,230 --> 01:29:57,110
the rear of the operation of this building and there is a vinyl fence area behind the building

1080
01:29:57,430 --> 01:29:59,470
and we had shown four

1081
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:28,220
A lot of trees in that area, plenty of board asks that we do extensive screening in there, so that the entire length of this is screened off, and we haven't got a problem with that as a way of doing that. That could be done with alphabeties with a variety of different kinds of vegetation in order to make sure that it's a aesthetic in the sense of the area, and also that it shields the backside of the building.

1082
01:30:28,220 --> 01:30:32,180
there is no activity that takes place on the back side of the building.

1083
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:34,580
I just want to make sure you understand that.

1084
01:30:34,820 --> 01:30:41,760
From an elevation point of view, understand that the governing elevation for the design

1085
01:30:42,300 --> 01:30:45,080
is the entrance elevation from Britain Avenue.

1086
01:30:46,100 --> 01:30:53,720
So that's in the mid 70s and as you come across, it requires that transition to the residential

1087
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:58,760
property, it requires retaining wall, because the residential property sits up higher.

1088
01:30:59,620 --> 01:31:06,540
So this building actually sits down below so that there's not like a direct kind of transfer

1089
01:31:06,540 --> 01:31:10,160
of anything that's going on in terms of activity, visual, or otherwise.

1090
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:15,680
Lighting that's on the building is none on the side facing the residents.

1091
01:31:16,260 --> 01:31:17,900
The other lighting is down lighting.

1092
01:31:17,900 --> 01:31:25,700
we show it here, and it does not allow for anything to go beyond the property limits itself.

1093
01:31:26,940 --> 01:31:33,760
There's a project sign, the detail of it on the left side over here, and it's going to be

1094
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:39,720
located in this area here to be able to be seen from root 6, and then obviously to be an entrance

1095
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:44,180
to the sign here just to be able to direct vehicles in and out from this location.

1096
01:31:44,180 --> 01:31:46,780
not a lot of traffic in and out.

1097
01:31:49,180 --> 01:31:57,240
There was some, or there's 15 cars and six garage bay spots as well.

1098
01:31:57,580 --> 01:32:01,960
So there's really 21 spaces, two of which are accessible.

1099
01:32:02,380 --> 01:32:06,220
One adjacent to the building and one in the first spot across from it.

1100
01:32:06,380 --> 01:32:07,520
Those are handicapped accessible.

1101
01:32:09,660 --> 01:32:13,460
And one of the comments that had come up at the

1102
01:32:13,460 --> 01:32:16,220
planning board meeting and discussion with the

1103
01:32:16,220 --> 01:32:19,500
about it was about snow storage, we were showing in

1104
01:32:19,500 --> 01:32:23,320
this last space as a turnout here and beyond that we

1105
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:25,840
were showing snow storage in this area.

1106
01:32:26,180 --> 01:32:30,440
The concern was that if snow is in that area and it

1107
01:32:30,440 --> 01:32:34,120
melts out, could it affect the basement in this area?

1108
01:32:36,060 --> 01:32:43,000
understanding that this here is at elevation 75 and this is like 80, this is 85 and that's

1109
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:48,640
like 78 in that area. I mean, this already starting from a significant difference already

1110
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:56,100
down close to the basement level. But we haven't got a problem to try and keep it more towards

1111
01:32:56,100 --> 01:33:02,660
the northern side of the area that we had designated and to that extent because we don't really

1112
01:33:02,660 --> 01:33:06,520
have to need all those spaces in a real bad storm.

1113
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:10,080
We could actually occupy a couple of the turn out,

1114
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:12,400
a couple of spaces in this area for storage.

1115
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:16,240
So I don't see that as a major issue.

1116
01:33:16,380 --> 01:33:17,680
Obviously, you want to be a good neighbor.

1117
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:23,120
We're not going to do anything that would be a problem for the

1118
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:24,140
neighboring property.

1119
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:28,480
And it just went, just one question about that.

1120
01:33:28,480 --> 01:33:37,780
that's no stork. Is that on, um, hot scape or on? Well, here, as we showed it on the design

1121
01:33:37,780 --> 01:33:44,240
plan, right? Uh, we had a combination of the pavement in this area, and here we had it in, we

1122
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:48,600
didn't have, we had it in a graded area that would have been like a loma seed area. Okay, okay.

1123
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:55,020
If it, if it needs to be different than that than we can extend some of that pavement, I was just

1124
01:33:55,020 --> 01:34:00,060
trying to minimize how much pavement we would actually have, but we could place just a

1125
01:34:00,060 --> 01:34:03,680
rub a line or something underneath that area just to make sure that it does direct

1126
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:04,040
it up.

1127
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:13,820
But the slope to it is in the direction of the parking lot anyway, because I showed you

1128
01:34:13,820 --> 01:34:14,480
here.

1129
01:34:26,340 --> 01:34:31,200
So from a grading point of view, that's where you get that transition grade backup to the

1130
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:36,200
higher grades where the back of the house is located, we're sloping back down to

1131
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:42,680
So it's not like the water wants to go with different direction, it really wants to go in the direction of the parking lot.

1132
01:34:44,920 --> 01:35:03,300
And also I want to show you on this page here that we've done test pits out in the back there for us to be able to capture water from building and so far from the parking lot and infiltrated into the area and this significant stormwater collection system in that location.

1133
01:35:03,300 --> 01:35:09,680
because all grades are coming in a in a in a southeast direction and so that's what our capture is

1134
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:18,100
We have a basins and half the entrance and also it's just to be able to capture and treat it go through it for a grit and then into a

1135
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:25,240
Recharge system soils. We found a very good for recharge and so

1136
01:35:25,940 --> 01:35:27,920
We feel that we have that issue

1137
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:33,460
adequately handled. Dan already told you that the was already, the utilities that were coming

1138
01:35:33,460 --> 01:35:40,620
across to the existing house had already been be located by the current owner. And so those

1139
01:35:40,620 --> 01:35:50,260
come around this side here and pretty much it's a clean operation clean layout and what we're trying

1140
01:35:50,260 --> 01:35:55,540
not to do is to, there is some encroachments over here by the neighbor on this side here,

1141
01:35:56,020 --> 01:35:59,900
We're trying not to involve those areas as part of this.

1142
01:36:00,100 --> 01:36:01,700
So you would leave those in place?

1143
01:36:02,260 --> 01:36:06,020
Yeah, we're not touching it. We're not showing any improvements over in this area.

1144
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:09,580
Yeah, because I know that it's labeled basketball court.

1145
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:10,620
That's what it is.

1146
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:11,040
Yeah.

1147
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:13,200
And that's going to stay.

1148
01:36:14,220 --> 01:36:16,220
I'll go play in one on one and see.

1149
01:36:17,460 --> 01:36:18,220
That's a play here.

1150
01:36:18,220 --> 01:36:18,780
The pot is filled.

1151
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:19,560
Yeah, you know.

1152
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:23,560
Now, that used to be the, all this referral, how does gas station work?

1153
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:23,840
Yeah.

1154
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:25,280
And then you go, you remember that?

1155
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:26,780
And Jeff, Jeff, and did you still own it?

1156
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:33,740
I would think the shape of that lot is probably caused by the relocation of root 6 too.

1157
01:36:34,340 --> 01:36:36,080
That lot was a shape of that.

1158
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:37,920
Part of that is.

1159
01:36:38,380 --> 01:36:42,360
I think what they relocated root 6, they created that odd shape.

1160
01:36:42,500 --> 01:36:42,820
Right.

1161
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:51,540
And as far as the layout, I mean, I talked about whether or not it was a possibility of narrowing

1162
01:36:51,540 --> 01:36:56,720
down to a reasonable width over here and then the variances may not even be necessary over

1163
01:36:56,720 --> 01:37:02,060
here, but this is the route that is going, we're keeping the 80 foot layout, but actually asking

1164
01:37:02,060 --> 01:37:05,640
for the variances into that layout, and then doing some improvements here.

1165
01:37:05,740 --> 01:37:10,660
As you remember the entrance to the old gas station was from this side, all that area is

1166
01:37:10,660 --> 01:37:14,820
all being restored. It's going to look much better in terms of that there.

1167
01:37:16,500 --> 01:37:21,420
On the side of the building with that neighbor, is there a white vinyl fence?

1168
01:37:23,100 --> 01:37:29,100
There you see, there's a wall on that side, let me talk about existing right now.

1169
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:29,660
Yeah, existing.

1170
01:37:32,180 --> 01:37:35,220
There's a wall coming in this area, there's a fence, there's a wall coming in this area, there's a fence.

1171
01:37:35,220 --> 01:37:37,920
So is that fence going to remain, you're going to take that out?

1172
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:53,780
Well, we're not replacing the wall with a new wall in that area, but with the walls on our side on the property to make sure that everything is here and we're putting in a vinyl fence, a new vinyl fence up there.

1173
01:37:53,780 --> 01:38:00,140
type of wall, they're going to be built up. It'd be a precast, a precast wall, in

1174
01:38:00,140 --> 01:38:05,920
fill. The times I like are really the ones that have a nice face on them, and

1175
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:09,820
they're in fill with stone. I mean, they can go with a full concrete block when we

1176
01:38:09,820 --> 01:38:14,800
give them that option, but the other ones are sometimes a little bit easier to manage

1177
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:22,480
as far as the ones that have the in fill for the stone inside them. So, pretty much

1178
01:38:22,480 --> 01:38:23,640
That's the overview.

1179
01:38:23,820 --> 01:38:29,320
I mean, for me, with the source, the wall itself is from,

1180
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:31,160
well, I've read in this time of 78.

1181
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,240
And up here is 85 is the finish grade there,

1182
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:37,460
so this is maybe above that anyway,

1183
01:38:38,340 --> 01:38:40,720
for safety point of view and stuff, we have it.

1184
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:44,060
And that's why the fence also provides a safety.

1185
01:38:47,470 --> 01:38:49,610
So the wall on the plan, the wall of the corner

1186
01:38:49,610 --> 01:38:51,810
is approximately six feet high.

1187
01:38:53,750 --> 01:38:55,570
Almost eight more like eight more like eight.

1188
01:38:55,570 --> 01:38:56,710
is a C-8 for.

1189
01:38:56,930 --> 01:38:59,350
I could have just been a plant as bottom wall 79,

1190
01:38:59,970 --> 01:39:00,930
Parvaloa 85.

1191
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:06,300
Yeah.

1192
01:39:06,300 --> 01:39:08,560
I was looking at one of the great, so here was like,

1193
01:39:08,580 --> 01:39:10,600
Sanied on the corner of the 60.

1194
01:39:10,740 --> 01:39:12,520
But then it's not as high up on that side.

1195
01:39:12,980 --> 01:39:14,040
So it's relatively a seven.

1196
01:39:14,460 --> 01:39:16,140
Could get to E, but more six seven.

1197
01:39:20,100 --> 01:39:22,340
And that's a face that wall actually faces,

1198
01:39:22,340 --> 01:39:24,120
but before mine came to go.

1199
01:39:24,620 --> 01:39:24,900
Right.

1200
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:28,160
Because the red antropropey is the ice-y.

1201
01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:32,620
and you're just trying to obtain that grade to the right answer probably all the year.

1202
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:37,740
So, but it's not that we don't want to make it a lovely thing.

1203
01:39:38,060 --> 01:39:38,860
Yeah, we have some.

1204
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:45,700
We have some wall on this idea because that strip of root 6, the undeveloped section of root 6 on that side.

1205
01:39:47,300 --> 01:39:50,200
There is a difference in grade there also.

1206
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:54,280
So, in that area up here, but those are small.

1207
01:39:54,280 --> 01:40:01,040
Those are like go from like two to three footer and that's this side, you can see top of all elevations.

1208
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:15,320
I think the highest one on this side does get up close to the seven as a far end, but in the middle of it it goes down to five here and then it's down to two or three on that side.

1209
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:17,600
the transition to that.

1210
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:22,760
The way they left root 6 on the side is placement here is because this here represents

1211
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:30,380
the wooded section of that strip and this is the open area that's more visible, which

1212
01:40:31,300 --> 01:40:34,740
is necessary, obviously, for the site to function.

1213
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:37,540
And the sign from line with the by-law sign of the element?

1214
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:38,000
Yes.

1215
01:40:39,060 --> 01:40:41,340
What's the gross flow area of the building?

1216
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:46,260
It's a hundred and five feet.

1217
01:40:46,480 --> 01:40:48,180
Oh, we passed the four hundred through seven.

1218
01:40:48,180 --> 01:40:50,100
Five, five, five, 40.

1219
01:40:51,100 --> 01:40:52,340
So that's what they are.

1220
01:40:52,480 --> 01:40:53,040
The Metro's.

1221
01:40:54,500 --> 01:40:55,920
This one did the parking.

1222
01:40:56,500 --> 01:40:58,460
What is it?

1223
01:40:58,460 --> 01:41:01,340
So it's 42,

1224
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:04,220
15.

1225
01:41:06,180 --> 01:41:06,900
42, 15.

1226
01:41:06,900 --> 01:41:17,740
What do you two 15 because the garage insurance 3437 off this 778 you're on the on the parking we got a parking somewhere

1227
01:41:18,820 --> 01:41:19,460
Yeah

1228
01:41:19,460 --> 01:41:19,660
They

1229
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:25,420
show you what was proposed then what was required

1230
01:41:30,020 --> 01:41:35,540
See you only required to have seven spaces you have 21 what we're showing 20. Yeah, so we see each

1231
01:41:35,540 --> 01:41:37,540
But that's counting the six

1232
01:41:39,300 --> 01:41:42,800
So 15, 15 on the amount of pounds,

1233
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:50,880
and that needs to be recorded because the math comes out to 14.05, it's basis.

1234
01:41:52,180 --> 01:42:00,080
And by having this old landscape in here, and this not being any activity on this side here, it really is quiet.

1235
01:42:00,180 --> 01:42:01,940
It's a quiet neighbor to that side.

1236
01:42:02,580 --> 01:42:03,020
And so forth.

1237
01:42:03,300 --> 01:42:05,880
So it's really kind of an ideal application.

1238
01:42:06,060 --> 01:42:10,020
If you think about the gas station that was there as I remember years and years ago,

1239
01:42:10,020 --> 01:42:17,500
That gas station was, you know, entry right in from the residential properties there, across

1240
01:42:17,500 --> 01:42:21,240
the New Old Gob shop and howdy's hamburgers and all that good stuff.

1241
01:42:21,500 --> 01:42:22,780
Ellie's hamburgers and me over there.

1242
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:24,720
What's howdy's a Kelly?

1243
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:25,920
What was the Kelly's?

1244
01:42:26,060 --> 01:42:26,480
Kelly's.

1245
01:42:26,480 --> 01:42:26,520
Kelly's.

1246
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:31,660
I went through the

1247
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:36,980
road twice when they put the sewer in.

1248
01:42:37,780 --> 01:42:42,800
Crockney was the contract there and it's quite too cost my wife my late wife's

1249
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:47,780
car and then later my car both went through the pavement yeah coming up my

1250
01:42:47,780 --> 01:42:50,980
got through having a from one direction and going towards it to the other direction oh my

1251
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:52,360
God

1252
01:42:54,890 --> 01:43:04,970
who's the manager of this place oh you great I just wanted to know who he if he

1253
01:43:04,970 --> 01:43:08,710
was a fact the manager I don't know if you're done or not you say manager you're

1254
01:43:38,710 --> 01:43:45,490
you is do you will you have like if people make an appointment with you are they going

1255
01:43:45,490 --> 01:43:51,210
to be leaving that car overnight when you come in in the morning we have seen when I drop

1256
01:43:51,210 --> 01:43:58,150
off is that yeah I guess that's what I'm asking so it's going to be a key drop box for the vehicle

1257
01:43:58,150 --> 01:44:04,290
yes and you'll be instructed in the parking that in the parking designated parking spots

1258
01:44:05,910 --> 01:44:14,810
Now, when the building is closed for the evening at 6 o'clock, I think, right, set 6 p.m. at night.

1259
01:44:15,530 --> 01:44:19,290
What lights are left on around the building? I'm sure you leave some lighting on.

1260
01:44:19,970 --> 01:44:24,610
We have automatic parking lights for visibility.

1261
01:44:26,010 --> 01:44:29,190
What do you mean by automatically when driving the lights come on?

1262
01:44:29,190 --> 01:44:32,830
No, no, no. Like, at a certain time, when it's dark,

1263
01:44:32,910 --> 01:44:37,270
special in the winter, the lights automatically comes on as the,

1264
01:44:37,270 --> 01:44:39,370
as the, as the in your other parking lot.

1265
01:44:40,670 --> 01:44:43,470
And the light is contained through the property, correct?

1266
01:44:43,730 --> 01:44:46,210
And it's down, like, it's actually a shadow of all sides.

1267
01:44:46,630 --> 01:44:49,390
Right, down, like, and down. So there's no white pollution

1268
01:44:49,390 --> 01:44:51,850
off the property. That's right. Right.

1269
01:44:51,850 --> 01:44:53,830
The light stays on all night.

1270
01:44:54,290 --> 01:44:56,650
Yeah, so the morning that it's the time, five,

1271
01:44:56,650 --> 01:44:59,530
at 36 a.m., the automatic goes on.

1272
01:44:59,530 --> 01:44:59,810
Let's go.

1273
01:45:06,440 --> 01:45:22,150
That's correct? That's correct. And now there is, I think, one or so other on the right now there is one on that side. And then there's one, two, three, I think there's four on that side. Thank you.

1274
01:45:22,810 --> 01:45:24,360
But there are all these these.

1275
01:45:24,950 --> 01:45:25,570
That's the other.

1276
01:45:25,910 --> 01:45:26,630
That's down by.

1277
01:45:26,950 --> 01:45:27,870
We show them.

1278
01:45:28,410 --> 01:45:28,830
OK.

1279
01:45:29,710 --> 01:45:32,410
Now, does your sign the mighty sign

1280
01:45:32,410 --> 01:45:35,070
to Zachow off at a certain time at night?

1281
01:45:35,450 --> 01:45:37,450
Or does the state illuminated all night?

1282
01:45:37,950 --> 01:45:38,950
It illuminated all night.

1283
01:45:39,270 --> 01:45:39,350
Yes.

1284
01:45:39,350 --> 01:45:40,770
It's illuminated all night long.

1285
01:45:41,230 --> 01:45:41,250
Yes.

1286
01:46:05,250 --> 01:46:06,750
This sign is on a timer.

1287
01:46:08,110 --> 01:46:09,090
We do it on a timer.

1288
01:46:11,130 --> 01:46:11,430
Yes.

1289
01:46:11,430 --> 01:46:14,170
So, when obviously when it gets darker, it illuminates.

1290
01:46:14,170 --> 01:46:18,570
And then it stays on and it shuts off a similar to the lights and on the property.

1291
01:46:19,410 --> 01:46:19,810
Yes.

1292
01:46:20,650 --> 01:46:26,690
Now, I'm going to ask your question about your attorney brought up the air-conditioning

1293
01:46:26,690 --> 01:46:33,850
condition mentioned by the planning board, which he feels is an on-issue because we have

1294
01:46:33,850 --> 01:46:39,090
a noise by law in the time of sunset, and that's addressed by the Board of Health.

1295
01:46:40,630 --> 01:46:47,810
Typically, on the summer day, we'll say that you have four of the six bays in operation.

1296
01:46:52,010 --> 01:46:53,610
How noisy is that?

1297
01:46:53,950 --> 01:46:54,970
Just for my purposes.

1298
01:46:55,290 --> 01:47:01,150
I mean, you're going to be doing basic car repair and what kind of noise would be generated

1299
01:47:01,150 --> 01:47:03,190
that would be an important thing.

1300
01:47:03,190 --> 01:47:06,430
Very many board felt would be an issue.

1301
01:47:07,870 --> 01:47:12,630
We think it would be a very minimum noise if we have three or four cars in the Bayes doing

1302
01:47:12,630 --> 01:47:20,510
some of the day, the noise is temporary, say we take, you bring your vehicle in, we just

1303
01:47:20,510 --> 01:47:26,090
take the tires off, we're waiting for parts, for bricks or for tires, for no tires, no bricks,

1304
01:47:26,510 --> 01:47:34,210
tire or the end or whatever, it's weighted for the parts to get there and once the parts are

1305
01:47:34,210 --> 01:47:40,170
installed, that's when we go back to put the tires on the car, and send it a test drive

1306
01:47:40,170 --> 01:47:45,970
before we return it to the customer. So there's not much noise at all.

1307
01:47:46,350 --> 01:47:53,590
Right, and so your base are obviously facing root six. Yes. So there's always, if anything that's

1308
01:47:53,590 --> 01:47:58,870
generated, it's going to be funneling out to root six. Manor, we're done with six. It's also

1309
01:47:58,870 --> 01:48:03,570
has a maximum limit for that commercial district of 70 decibels.

1310
01:48:03,850 --> 01:48:04,290
Oh, okay.

1311
01:48:04,530 --> 01:48:06,750
So it's a diff.

1312
01:48:07,230 --> 01:48:10,310
Yeah, even if he stays under 70 decibels, it shouldn't be a problem.

1313
01:48:10,330 --> 01:48:12,950
Yeah, I don't see a repair shop.

1314
01:48:12,950 --> 01:48:13,730
I'm no mechanic.

1315
01:48:14,490 --> 01:48:16,350
I barely can change my old flat tire.

1316
01:48:16,850 --> 01:48:17,570
I won't be modern.

1317
01:48:17,730 --> 01:48:18,570
I'd be happy to help you out.

1318
01:48:20,830 --> 01:48:23,010
The work was the door and he makes the pinch.

1319
01:48:23,230 --> 01:48:23,830
I like that.

1320
01:48:23,990 --> 01:48:26,330
No wonder you got awards for bringing in.

1321
01:48:27,570 --> 01:48:28,970
But then it was seriously,

1322
01:48:31,370 --> 01:48:35,530
yeah, I don't think that would present the problem, I'm just

1323
01:48:35,530 --> 01:48:38,630
speaking for myself as a member of the zone, but I can't speak for my colleagues.

1324
01:48:39,330 --> 01:48:43,690
I don't foresee a problem with that when you do a car repair, because I do agree with you.

1325
01:48:43,690 --> 01:48:47,750
Whatever you take off, you have to wait for your part to come in before you can proceed with

1326
01:48:47,750 --> 01:48:48,330
the repair.

1327
01:48:48,730 --> 01:48:49,310
Yes, sir.

1328
01:48:49,330 --> 01:48:52,970
And then you repair your vehicle, you're done, you take it for a test friend,

1329
01:48:53,590 --> 01:48:57,810
That's always made using air guns to put the fire in the fire and the fire and the fire.

1330
01:48:58,510 --> 01:49:06,290
Steve, that time period, too, for the noise by law, 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. 70 decibels.

1331
01:49:07,010 --> 01:49:08,990
Yeah, the facility is closed and the facility is closed.

1332
01:49:09,410 --> 01:49:10,170
6 p.m. at night.

1333
01:49:12,030 --> 01:49:12,090
Yeah.

1334
01:49:12,090 --> 01:49:13,690
Around 7.30.

1335
01:49:15,430 --> 01:49:21,990
Now, your dumps the location, that you don't foresee any vehicles.

1336
01:49:21,990 --> 01:49:30,750
that you're working on or waiting for service to interfere with the operation of the truck that

1337
01:49:30,750 --> 01:49:32,470
empties that container?

1338
01:49:33,070 --> 01:49:40,390
No, sorry, if we have to, as we do currently in and of them, let's say guys block the dumpster,

1339
01:49:40,910 --> 01:49:45,730
and we know we have a certain date with our trash company, we know when they come in.

1340
01:49:45,730 --> 01:49:50,630
So you must be the every employee not to park there or any customer not to park there.

1341
01:49:50,630 --> 01:49:53,310
And it's not a customer parking space in anyone.

1342
01:49:53,870 --> 01:49:57,970
The dump says never going to be blocked to cause the trash

1343
01:49:57,970 --> 01:50:00,690
company not to able to haul it out.

1344
01:50:01,050 --> 01:50:04,050
Some of them, especially the one I have in the end of now,

1345
01:50:04,150 --> 01:50:05,470
currently they do it at night.

1346
01:50:05,810 --> 01:50:08,170
I come in the morning and my dump says empty.

1347
01:50:09,750 --> 01:50:10,850
Yeah, you get to go.

1348
01:50:11,170 --> 01:50:12,890
What time in night?

1349
01:50:13,350 --> 01:50:15,330
Sometimes they come early evening.

1350
01:50:15,930 --> 01:50:16,170
OK.

1351
01:50:16,610 --> 01:50:16,770
Yes.

1352
01:50:16,970 --> 01:50:18,350
We had other places.

1353
01:50:18,730 --> 01:50:19,010
Yeah.

1354
01:50:19,590 --> 01:50:23,330
It's been an issue when they come like, you know, 530 in the morning

1355
01:50:24,190 --> 01:50:33,370
There's a lot of noise from the dumps to be an empty. So we had to put restrictions on it. So the dumps. The wasn't, you know, it was, you know, so it wasn't a lot of delay

1356
01:50:33,370 --> 01:50:39,070
Especially a buddy of residential neighborhood, right? So just pride to them opening like I mean something like

1357
01:50:39,630 --> 01:50:44,410
you know, somewhere it does you know 630 up to say

1358
01:50:46,170 --> 01:50:48,990
738 somewhere in there. He can work that out with the

1359
01:50:49,010 --> 01:50:56,970
Yeah, up with the trash company, right, okay. Yeah, that thing that can, that comes up.

1360
01:50:57,550 --> 01:51:02,870
So, your employees parking, that's going to occupy the 15 spots that you have, correct?

1361
01:51:03,150 --> 01:51:07,290
You're going to be taking away from your customer parking for five spaces.

1362
01:51:07,410 --> 01:51:11,510
Five spaces, yeah, for employees, yes, okay.

1363
01:51:23,710 --> 01:51:26,770
Do you have a landscape of company coming to do snow removal?

1364
01:51:27,650 --> 01:51:29,770
What do you folks do yourself?

1365
01:51:30,350 --> 01:51:32,090
Currently we do our own snow removal.

1366
01:51:39,020 --> 01:51:40,960
And you're a member of the Pornal line,

1367
01:51:41,100 --> 01:51:44,840
although this snow removal area in the landscape area.

1368
01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:47,240
It's like a sandstorm.

1369
01:51:47,740 --> 01:51:48,700
I would say not.

1370
01:51:49,180 --> 01:51:53,520
It could either be hard-skinned and have make sure that it goes...

1371
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:59,720
But basically we'll manage it so that it drains towards the parking lot.

1372
01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:04,600
not into the ground itself below that area.

1373
01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:11,460
Like I say, small storms, you know, it's just going to be in that sort of turn-out area

1374
01:52:11,460 --> 01:52:20,580
and just bailing into that, you know, I mean, it's not like there is a major issue in terms

1375
01:52:20,580 --> 01:52:24,640
of how much storage must know you need to have there.

1376
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:29,960
No, it's just so when we get these lives from a planning board, you know

1377
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:55,340
So it was in the plane of a letter and you kind of addressed it and said that, you know, you could put a line of, but if you, if you were going to hodge scape, that's no storage area, like that area looks pretty large, right on this plan. How much with your hodge, I'm going to try to keep it so that it's more than northern part of that area that we're showing, right? So we're going to keep it so that half that with and keeping it with to that side.

1378
01:52:57,130 --> 01:53:02,490
It's a question. You're going to sell the property. Are you going to read or is it a lease?

1379
01:53:02,510 --> 01:53:03,450
It's for sale.

1380
01:53:03,610 --> 01:53:04,030
It's for sale.

1381
01:53:07,540 --> 01:53:10,700
So you're going to be the gentleman running this particular money.

1382
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:12,220
If they ever think it's proof?

1383
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:14,200
Yes sir.

1384
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:15,620
You'll be the owner?

1385
01:53:15,900 --> 01:53:16,320
Yes sir.

1386
01:53:28,870 --> 01:53:31,510
That landscape and it's going to go along a place very quickly.

1387
01:53:31,690 --> 01:53:33,070
Is it going to be a row of our varieties?

1388
01:53:33,750 --> 01:53:35,650
We have to be full screening.

1389
01:53:36,210 --> 01:53:40,890
If you make the condition that it has to be fully screened as the money bar we're saying.

1390
01:53:40,890 --> 01:53:44,730
so that you basically block the view of the height

1391
01:53:45,550 --> 01:53:47,790
of the vinyl fence behind the building,

1392
01:53:49,490 --> 01:53:52,110
then I would suggest you the easiest way to do that

1393
01:53:52,110 --> 01:53:54,510
is with the role of our varieties,

1394
01:53:54,890 --> 01:53:57,770
and then put the trees that we show just in the other those.

1395
01:53:59,210 --> 01:54:00,210
So you get both.

1396
01:54:05,170 --> 01:54:08,250
Because that's, yeah, that'll, I mean, that'll work.

1397
01:54:08,670 --> 01:54:10,290
I mean, yeah, that's fine.

1398
01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:14,280
Yeah.

1399
01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:16,260
Would you just say the minor key sign was going

1400
01:54:16,260 --> 01:54:17,140
to go, I'm sorry, Mr.

1401
01:54:17,140 --> 01:54:22,200
Right, we're the bend in the, if you look at the bend in the parking area right at that corner,

1402
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:23,080
I'm bringing it up.

1403
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:27,140
Oh, okay. I'm sorry.

1404
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:28,160
Yep. Yep. Yep.

1405
01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:29,660
And that gets you the visibility.

1406
01:54:29,660 --> 01:54:31,020
Okay. So you get, okay.

1407
01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:31,540
I understand.

1408
01:54:31,820 --> 01:54:35,040
Because I guess, say, if you go too far to the west,

1409
01:54:35,220 --> 01:54:38,360
it's a tree line that we showed off in that little sliver.

1410
01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:41,480
Because that's where the sun's getting more vegetated every six.

1411
01:54:42,200 --> 01:54:44,460
And you can't see that this,

1412
01:54:44,460 --> 01:54:45,440
in this area,

1413
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:53,640
up here, it stops again, so you can't really see as much except in winter time up in this area,

1414
01:54:53,940 --> 01:54:58,440
but you can see clearly this view point in there,

1415
01:55:00,490 --> 01:55:01,450
very good.

1416
01:55:02,650 --> 01:55:06,230
Would you be willing to turn the sign off at some point in the night?

1417
01:55:09,210 --> 01:55:11,470
Only because the residential property is a high, right?

1418
01:55:11,470 --> 01:55:19,310
So, this sign height on this plan says 23 feet maximum, right?

1419
01:55:20,930 --> 01:55:26,570
So, if the residents are probably higher in the signs 23, they'll be looking out at the

1420
01:55:26,570 --> 01:55:26,950
signs.

1421
01:55:27,110 --> 01:55:33,690
This is some time when you can turn the sign off at night because we get complaints from

1422
01:55:33,690 --> 01:55:40,590
residents as near businesses that the signs illuminated and then they come back looking for some

1423
01:55:40,590 --> 01:55:47,470
week from this sign being on. So if you're only going to be open until six, could you turn

1424
01:55:47,470 --> 01:55:54,450
the sign off from like nine till seven in the morning?

1425
01:55:57,020 --> 01:55:58,620
There's not always people in the building

1426
01:55:58,620 --> 01:56:08,600
at seven in the end, so I'll have to turn. Turn it off for a night at night? Oh, sure. I can

1427
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:09,420
I can set it.

1428
01:56:09,500 --> 01:56:10,340
I can set it.

1429
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:10,800
I can set it up.

1430
01:56:11,180 --> 01:56:11,900
I can set it up.

1431
01:56:12,020 --> 01:56:12,720
Put it on the timer.

1432
01:56:13,380 --> 01:56:15,100
So you turn off it like nine.

1433
01:56:15,540 --> 01:56:17,460
And then you can turn it out when they come into work.

1434
01:56:17,700 --> 01:56:18,200
What are you going to do?

1435
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:19,020
Five, six, six.

1436
01:56:19,180 --> 01:56:19,380
Yeah.

1437
01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:22,380
Nine, just nine, just nine, just six.

1438
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:23,840
Three, nine, just six.

1439
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:26,840
It'll be your often in that way.

1440
01:56:27,100 --> 01:56:29,940
We won't get complaints from the neighbor that you know.

1441
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:38,540
I have to reduce my taxes.

1442
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:41,920
Not many people see this sign to go in.

1443
01:56:43,900 --> 01:57:04,080
We don't have any control over the tank state, unfortunately, but I don't, you know, getting to the sign, I agree with you 100% in this channel, but maybe you could say illuminate a little longer than nine.

1444
01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:13,320
You don't I don't know the sign. I'm saying turn the sign off from nine and night until 630 in the morning. Oh

1445
01:57:13,320 --> 01:57:19,240
I'm sorry. I'm the sun just you that I don't I have 630 the lights down. Yeah, yeah, I'm just a sign it

1446
01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:26,100
Manicky sign this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because you represented that the light the lights are all

1447
01:57:26,100 --> 01:57:26,860
Don't

1448
01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:35,140
Yeah, no, no, no.

1449
01:57:35,140 --> 01:57:35,800
Yeah, nine of us.

1450
01:57:49,250 --> 01:57:51,310
The only reason why I'm asking about that line

1451
01:57:51,310 --> 01:57:53,090
or that being hot-skilled, but it's still

1452
01:57:53,090 --> 01:57:55,170
important is because that was, obviously,

1453
01:57:55,310 --> 01:57:57,110
that was a concern of the planning board

1454
01:57:57,110 --> 01:57:58,430
when they sent us this.

1455
01:57:58,810 --> 01:58:01,790
And I should say to you, is that they felt as though,

1456
01:58:01,990 --> 01:58:04,890
whether or not you address that or not,

1457
01:58:05,290 --> 01:58:06,870
we have to go back to them for the storm

1458
01:58:06,870 --> 01:58:08,110
or the management permit.

1459
01:58:08,510 --> 01:58:12,910
And it was agreed that we would work out whatever that detail

1460
01:58:12,910 --> 01:58:13,830
is at that time.

1461
01:58:14,050 --> 01:58:14,310
OK.

1462
01:58:14,310 --> 01:58:19,370
So that's what the agreement was with them.

1463
01:58:19,550 --> 01:58:19,930
Correct with that.

1464
01:58:20,450 --> 01:58:20,970
Yeah.

1465
01:58:22,210 --> 01:58:22,670
Yeah. That's correct.

1466
01:58:22,950 --> 01:58:24,010
And they can resolve that issue.

1467
01:58:24,830 --> 01:58:25,950
That's not going to be odd to the reason.

1468
01:58:38,630 --> 01:58:38,690
Yeah.

1469
01:58:38,950 --> 01:58:39,930
They have any questions.

1470
01:58:40,430 --> 01:58:40,730
Question.

1471
01:58:41,230 --> 01:58:42,190
How deep could it go?

1472
01:58:43,010 --> 01:58:44,230
Anyone here comments?

1473
01:58:46,190 --> 01:58:46,610
Go ahead.

1474
01:58:47,570 --> 01:58:48,510
You want to go first?

1475
01:58:50,900 --> 01:58:51,260
I don't know.

1476
01:58:53,060 --> 01:58:53,440
I don't know.

1477
01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:54,100
I don't know.

1478
01:58:54,100 --> 01:58:54,340
Yes.

1479
01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:55,260
I don't know.

1480
01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:57,620
The gas station was there.

1481
01:58:57,680 --> 01:58:58,520
But it's not there anymore.

1482
01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:04,020
and we like it that way because it's quiet. Okay, I put in a hundred thousand dollar pool

1483
01:59:04,020 --> 01:59:10,000
Two other neighbors have swimming pools. I live two houses. My concern is the noise. I know they're saying

1484
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:16,520
There'll be no noise, but I don't want to be out by my pool listening to air guns. I didn't move to some a set in

1485
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:23,720
1964 my parents bought the house for noise. So that's concern in me that I don't know six bays

1486
01:59:24,620 --> 01:59:30,880
But I put the air guns and I'm sitting by my pool, having people over and the people on

1487
01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:34,680
Truman and the people at the halls that also have pools, like we don't want to be

1488
01:59:34,680 --> 01:59:38,780
listening to that noise. I didn't move to some a set for that. I didn't move to some a set

1489
01:59:38,780 --> 01:59:42,660
to have a minicking in me. I moved to some a set to be in the suburbs.

1490
01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:47,480
I'm just a little upset

1491
01:59:47,480 --> 01:59:52,580
with it. Okay, I know the back is going to be closed and supposedly the noise is going

1492
01:59:52,580 --> 01:59:56,360
go the other way but we don't know if the noise is going to go the other way but about when

1493
01:59:56,360 --> 01:59:59,980
the wind's blowing. I love two houses from there and not even

1494
02:00:19,580 --> 02:00:29,980
I think they're going to open up and then extend their hours. Who stays open till six? That's a good thing.

1495
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:34,380
or any tie a shot. Do they really close at six?

1496
02:00:34,860 --> 02:00:38,700
Well, they've represented, those are going to be their eyes.

1497
02:00:39,280 --> 02:00:41,500
And then those eyes will go into the decision.

1498
02:00:42,340 --> 02:00:44,480
So if they stay open after six,

1499
02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:46,020
you can see the violation.

1500
02:00:46,440 --> 02:00:50,700
You just call the building in spite of that to violation of the decision if we do it.

1501
02:00:50,700 --> 02:00:53,640
Okay, so they can't just decide to help till 11 now.

1502
02:00:53,860 --> 02:00:57,660
No. They would have to come back to this point to get the hours operation revised.

1503
02:00:58,220 --> 02:01:04,820
Okay, because we did have problems with the dumpsters like you said at 530 in the morning picking the dumpster up.

1504
02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:07,560
So my concern is the airlines.

1505
02:01:08,020 --> 02:01:13,480
I go by places that change tires and you're just driving by and you can hear them.

1506
02:01:14,040 --> 02:01:17,640
So that's my concern with my 100,000 dollar pool.

1507
02:01:18,040 --> 02:01:20,940
I'm just, I'm sorry, but I'm outside all summer.

1508
02:01:22,120 --> 02:01:23,220
Everybody's at my house.

1509
02:01:24,860 --> 02:01:26,220
Okay, to the hours of operation.

1510
02:01:26,220 --> 02:01:28,260
on the dumpster, where is the dumpster located?

1511
02:01:29,120 --> 02:01:30,180
I'm sorry, I don't have a clue.

1512
02:01:30,660 --> 02:01:31,900
Is it in the back of the frame?

1513
02:01:36,660 --> 02:01:37,600
Don't be here.

1514
02:01:38,740 --> 02:01:41,420
Okay, so it's on the other side of the building going towards the wood section.

1515
02:01:41,740 --> 02:01:42,840
I'll put it in that corner there.

1516
02:01:43,580 --> 02:01:45,360
Can you get the building in between here?

1517
02:01:45,500 --> 02:01:46,560
You're on the side right?

1518
02:01:48,240 --> 02:01:48,580
I'm pretty nice.

1519
02:01:48,580 --> 02:01:50,080
Please carry on.

1520
02:01:51,830 --> 02:01:52,570
What is this one?

1521
02:01:52,930 --> 02:01:53,670
That's what that was.

1522
02:01:54,010 --> 02:01:54,770
That's what you're doing.

1523
02:01:55,530 --> 02:01:55,930
Okay.

1524
02:01:56,370 --> 02:01:56,730
You're done.

1525
02:01:57,070 --> 02:01:57,590
Okay, sure.

1526
02:01:57,830 --> 02:01:59,250
It's on the other side.

1527
02:01:59,290 --> 02:02:01,910
Right, so it's on the other side of the building.

1528
02:02:01,910 --> 02:02:07,030
and for the help of the particle up here. So it's the only way up here.

1529
02:02:07,190 --> 02:02:11,430
Okay, and that. That's the only way up here.

1530
02:02:11,530 --> 02:02:17,930
All right, my concern is the egg ons. And if all the bays are full, I really, you know,

1531
02:02:18,070 --> 02:02:22,310
just because we had job a lot there or whatever that was called in the gas station,

1532
02:02:22,670 --> 02:02:25,730
we don't have it anymore. We like our neighborhood not being noisy.

1533
02:02:26,130 --> 02:02:29,190
And I, you know, I feel bad for you because I don't know. You just tell you a lot,

1534
02:02:29,190 --> 02:02:32,470
But I want to live peacefully, too.

1535
02:02:32,490 --> 02:02:36,410
And I didn't move to some set to listen to air guns

1536
02:02:36,410 --> 02:02:38,190
and whatever else is going to happen at.

1537
02:02:38,350 --> 02:02:38,730
I'll go on.

1538
02:02:39,850 --> 02:02:40,470
That's all I want to say.

1539
02:02:40,510 --> 02:02:41,510
Could I have your name, please?

1540
02:02:42,050 --> 02:02:42,470
I think I have your name.

1541
02:02:42,530 --> 02:02:44,630
Just wanted to let me indicate that.

1542
02:02:44,630 --> 02:02:45,150
But Barlow.

1543
02:02:45,150 --> 02:02:48,110
follow the A-R-L-W-T-E, seven holes in the end.

1544
02:02:48,590 --> 02:02:53,590
The idea of airplanes, I mean, this is not a tire changing.

1545
02:02:54,050 --> 02:02:56,690
I upwards, if you orbit fire stone somewhere the way up,

1546
02:02:56,890 --> 02:03:00,170
every bay is changing tires and eggons are going off.

1547
02:03:00,430 --> 02:03:02,370
That's not what this is a carcass.

1548
02:03:02,710 --> 02:03:07,370
Facility is not that kind of, every bay.

1549
02:03:07,550 --> 02:03:08,190
That's what they're doing.

1550
02:03:08,310 --> 02:03:09,630
They do change tires, right?

1551
02:03:10,090 --> 02:03:13,010
They will change tires, but it's not like the frequency

1552
02:03:13,010 --> 02:03:18,010
that you're comparing it to a tire place.

1553
02:03:18,690 --> 02:03:19,410
That's right.

1554
02:03:19,410 --> 02:03:21,190
I don't know, because I didn't.

1555
02:03:21,290 --> 02:03:25,850
I should've probably taken a ride to a minor key and listened, which I didn't do.

1556
02:03:25,930 --> 02:03:26,950
But that's just my concern.

1557
02:03:27,130 --> 02:03:27,290
Sure.

1558
02:03:27,890 --> 02:03:28,390
No, thank you.

1559
02:03:28,590 --> 02:03:29,650
And it's just because I haven't.

1560
02:03:29,790 --> 02:03:31,630
Just to try to make sure that I understand all.

1561
02:03:32,030 --> 02:03:32,350
No, no.

1562
02:03:33,010 --> 02:03:34,230
Yeah, that's no.

1563
02:03:34,750 --> 02:03:37,310
I'm just concerned with all the money I spend on my pool.

1564
02:03:37,570 --> 02:03:38,870
I want to be outside of the museum.

1565
02:03:38,870 --> 02:03:43,910
I'm looking into the dumpsets for this away from where you're from.

1566
02:03:44,430 --> 02:03:44,850
How are you?

1567
02:03:44,950 --> 02:03:47,290
I'm a Jamie Emerson 6-Linda Lane.

1568
02:03:48,130 --> 02:03:51,930
I just want to run over a couple things.

1569
02:03:53,430 --> 02:03:57,070
One, everybody is acting like this is in a commercial property.

1570
02:03:57,230 --> 02:03:58,550
I'm root 6 for some reason.

1571
02:03:59,170 --> 02:04:01,670
I never, when I bought this, was expecting this.

1572
02:04:02,510 --> 02:04:07,210
If you stand out where my sign is, with the rigs and everything else going by, you can't

1573
02:04:07,210 --> 02:04:10,190
been talking to a cell phone, super, super loud.

1574
02:04:12,210 --> 02:04:16,350
Talking about this layout on the 24th from the easement.

1575
02:04:17,270 --> 02:04:21,210
The road is 80 feet. They gave this road back to the town.

1576
02:04:22,310 --> 02:04:26,130
My neighbor, you can see the line is right up to the front of his house.

1577
02:04:27,430 --> 02:04:34,470
The gas station that was out this property for, I don't even know, maybe 60, 70 years has been using

1578
02:04:34,470 --> 02:04:38,410
those entrances, the tire, the sign was in the easement.

1579
02:04:38,650 --> 02:04:42,450
They probably even have some kind of grandfathered rights to it.

1580
02:04:42,650 --> 02:04:43,950
Was it more than 60 years?

1581
02:04:43,970 --> 02:04:45,550
More than 60 years, okay?

1582
02:04:46,450 --> 02:04:48,050
We're eliminating all that.

1583
02:04:48,690 --> 02:04:50,590
And we're not even going to be in that.

1584
02:04:50,670 --> 02:04:52,150
And we're staying on our property.

1585
02:04:52,350 --> 02:04:56,110
We're asking for this variance, which probably is a smaller pot

1586
02:04:56,110 --> 02:04:57,470
that I'm talking about here.

1587
02:04:57,950 --> 02:05:02,050
I'm more concerned by why anybody thinks like something other

1588
02:05:02,050 --> 02:05:03,510
than commercial should be here.

1589
02:05:03,510 --> 02:05:06,710
This is what this is and it's taken two years

1590
02:05:07,810 --> 02:05:11,830
Defined someone in these guys have been it did nothing but professional plans

1591
02:05:11,830 --> 02:05:19,570
We were very concerned about the neighbor getting a bunch of cars behind because that's it would become the Atlanta and

1592
02:05:19,570 --> 02:05:21,630
If they could put in cars behind

1593
02:05:21,630 --> 02:05:23,390
Right behind their house

1594
02:05:23,910 --> 02:05:26,230
Isn't it a problem there was surge and you correct it?

1595
02:05:26,890 --> 02:05:33,410
I mean, I don't want to like no, I'm just saying there wasn't a problem. I think they will let you know that I showed up on the

1596
02:05:33,510 --> 02:05:35,370
I wasn't been one argument with the about her.

1597
02:05:35,850 --> 02:05:37,230
I showed up.

1598
02:05:37,890 --> 02:05:39,770
They made me aware of it.

1599
02:05:39,850 --> 02:05:40,890
I went down to the town.

1600
02:05:40,910 --> 02:05:42,810
The town said this is a major mess.

1601
02:05:43,250 --> 02:05:44,590
I went down to the water department.

1602
02:05:44,590 --> 02:05:46,070
They said, I don't even know what to do.

1603
02:05:47,510 --> 02:05:48,310
They're complaining.

1604
02:05:49,610 --> 02:05:51,470
They don't know why it went across it.

1605
02:05:51,730 --> 02:05:53,150
The town said it's not out land.

1606
02:05:53,310 --> 02:05:54,650
I got stuck with it.

1607
02:05:54,730 --> 02:05:56,030
I used my own engineers.

1608
02:05:56,570 --> 02:05:57,890
I brought it off his property.

1609
02:05:58,030 --> 02:05:59,750
I brought it into the road easement.

1610
02:05:59,750 --> 02:06:05,510
And I paid the $42,000 bill and never received any money from anybody else.

1611
02:06:05,710 --> 02:06:07,330
I remember you fixed in it.

1612
02:06:07,650 --> 02:06:09,710
I'm not even here to talk about that.

1613
02:06:09,870 --> 02:06:15,390
I'm just, there's a couple other about her is that mentioned at the last meeting

1614
02:06:15,390 --> 02:06:18,790
like it's not that residential feel of the neighborhood.

1615
02:06:19,350 --> 02:06:20,870
I just don't understand what's going on.

1616
02:06:20,870 --> 02:06:21,750
I've been with this.

1617
02:06:21,750 --> 02:06:27,130
This is Route 6 at the corner and when all those houses were bought, they knew that

1618
02:06:27,130 --> 02:06:29,530
Route 6 was either on the other side or on this side.

1619
02:06:30,170 --> 02:06:35,010
The poor neighbor that's at 294, I felt bad the whole time for.

1620
02:06:35,350 --> 02:06:40,730
His job situation is absolutely horrible, but that's nothing like anybody could have bought

1621
02:06:40,730 --> 02:06:41,310
this lot.

1622
02:06:41,990 --> 02:06:45,630
This was marketed for, I want to say, six to seven years.

1623
02:06:45,970 --> 02:06:46,350
Oh, time.

1624
02:06:46,690 --> 02:06:47,590
I live in Somerset.

1625
02:06:47,690 --> 02:06:49,310
I've been driving by for 10.

1626
02:06:49,950 --> 02:06:51,270
One day, I'm a homebuilder.

1627
02:06:51,290 --> 02:06:52,310
That's what I do for 11.

1628
02:06:53,410 --> 02:06:56,470
And I drove by and I said, and this is never ever going to sell.

1629
02:06:56,470 --> 02:06:57,950
Let's turn to the old highway.

1630
02:06:58,370 --> 02:06:59,630
You got to take it down.

1631
02:06:59,930 --> 02:07:00,870
You got to do a 21-year.

1632
02:07:00,870 --> 02:07:02,330
You got to celebrate it.

1633
02:07:02,470 --> 02:07:05,230
And I have an offer on my desk from up high up

1634
02:07:05,230 --> 02:07:07,890
in this offer, a Taco Bell.

1635
02:07:08,210 --> 02:07:10,890
And I got caught up in this slide's very district zoning,

1636
02:07:11,690 --> 02:07:13,250
which says, no drive through.

1637
02:07:13,590 --> 02:07:16,970
Whoever came up with that back in the day destroyed the lot.

1638
02:07:16,990 --> 02:07:18,070
The lot was unselable.

1639
02:07:18,530 --> 02:07:22,110
I had five other different interests in the lot.

1640
02:07:22,290 --> 02:07:24,730
But Taco Bell that's going in,

1641
02:07:24,730 --> 02:07:29,970
there's an offer at my house on my desk for more money. I lost it because

1642
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:59,980
So now I took the property to town vote. The public all agreed. This is a commercial property. I feel like I'm defending a commercial property. I just don't even understand it. I've been nothing but nice to the neighbors. There's another neighbor that's going to get up and tell you every single reason why something shouldn't be built here. I don't get it. And he's going to say that he's pro business. I don't understand that either. I'm a town resident. I stepped up. I'm selling this property at this town.

1643
02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:05,380
point because I had to go to town vote for over $75,000 less than I have into the property.

1644
02:08:06,160 --> 02:08:10,480
If anybody here did this for the town, they'd probably be talking about it.

1645
02:08:11,160 --> 02:08:17,960
So I just want to kind of get all that out and that's it, okay, you know, thank you.

1646
02:08:18,460 --> 02:08:18,860
Thank you.

1647
02:08:18,860 --> 02:08:19,920
Thank you, appreciate it.

1648
02:08:23,180 --> 02:08:24,060
Anyone else?

1649
02:08:34,120 --> 02:08:39,180
Like we're in from 1994, sleep very well, of art, and thank you, Jamie, for everything

1650
02:08:39,180 --> 02:08:40,000
you've done in that.

1651
02:08:41,680 --> 02:08:44,000
You've done more than anyone else.

1652
02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:48,720
I have a couple questions about some of the plans still,

1653
02:08:48,860 --> 02:08:50,380
but I don't want to direct it to the board.

1654
02:08:51,060 --> 02:08:53,500
I do have one thing I want to say.

1655
02:08:53,800 --> 02:08:57,100
Everything's going pretty smoothly as far as this is going.

1656
02:08:58,380 --> 02:08:59,000
I will wear that.

1657
02:09:00,440 --> 02:09:03,840
Someone on this board was also involved in this purchase of this property.

1658
02:09:04,480 --> 02:09:08,080
I don't want to see a conflict of interesting turn into a problem.

1659
02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:11,800
should that be a problem?

1660
02:09:13,940 --> 02:09:19,020
Who was one of the select minutes, sold the property, initially, that when was a tone

1661
02:09:19,020 --> 02:09:23,080
surplus property, is now on this board, and for now I understand that would be a

1662
02:09:23,080 --> 02:09:23,500
considerable.

1663
02:09:24,100 --> 02:09:24,340
Yeah.

1664
02:09:24,620 --> 02:09:25,960
Would you consider how that would be?

1665
02:09:26,060 --> 02:09:26,640
Yes, obviously.

1666
02:09:27,640 --> 02:09:28,320
What's that you?

1667
02:09:29,240 --> 02:09:30,940
I don't recall doing that.

1668
02:10:25,420 --> 02:10:25,480
Okay.

1669
02:10:25,660 --> 02:10:32,460
What the gentleman is handed me is a deed that was signed by the three board of

1670
02:10:32,460 --> 02:10:41,740
I've told before 2019, pursuant to a vote taken under Article 4 of the December 3, 2018 special town meeting.

1671
02:10:43,360 --> 02:10:49,500
So Mr. Monus's signature is on page 2. He's carrying out his executive duty on behalf of the town.

1672
02:10:50,860 --> 02:10:53,040
This was a lot by vote of the town.

1673
02:10:53,580 --> 02:10:55,060
I just want to make sure it's not a problem.

1674
02:10:55,060 --> 02:10:56,120
I'm not trying to tell you.

1675
02:10:56,120 --> 02:10:56,580
I don't see it as in.

1676
02:10:56,580 --> 02:10:59,480
I just want to make sure that the citizen's turning into like this one or three.

1677
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:04,140
He's like three executives of the town and he was, he was bound to sign it because that's

1678
02:11:04,140 --> 02:11:04,640
with the town.

1679
02:11:04,680 --> 02:11:06,040
Okay, that's what I just got.

1680
02:11:06,140 --> 02:11:06,780
That's okay.

1681
02:11:07,060 --> 02:11:07,880
That's the where of that.

1682
02:11:08,180 --> 02:11:08,480
That's good.

1683
02:11:08,740 --> 02:11:10,360
There's no that was like a legal problem.

1684
02:11:10,700 --> 02:11:10,800
That's good.

1685
02:11:11,140 --> 02:11:12,120
There's no that's fine.

1686
02:11:12,360 --> 02:11:13,180
But like so.

1687
02:11:13,600 --> 02:11:15,180
Yeah, I don't want to see like on a month.

1688
02:11:15,580 --> 02:11:16,680
This weird thing happens.

1689
02:11:19,600 --> 02:11:22,480
So, the snow removal that we've discussed.

1690
02:11:23,620 --> 02:11:25,320
Just direct the question to me.

1691
02:11:25,960 --> 02:11:26,440
Yeah, I'm sorry.

1692
02:11:26,440 --> 02:11:27,500
I'm just looking at the map.

1693
02:11:28,040 --> 02:11:28,140
All right.

1694
02:11:28,540 --> 02:11:32,620
I had requested that they basically cut it in half and they're made an indication that

1695
02:11:32,620 --> 02:11:32,920
they did.

1696
02:11:33,080 --> 02:11:36,920
I wanted to make sure that that's actually going to be into fruition here.

1697
02:11:37,060 --> 02:11:38,560
It's not going to be talked about.

1698
02:11:38,740 --> 02:11:41,760
And then all of a sudden they decided not going to do it that way.

1699
02:11:42,160 --> 02:11:45,140
Is that the conditions?

1700
02:11:46,580 --> 02:11:49,080
The snow storage area is on the plan.

1701
02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:56,140
So there's no storage area that they present on this place as what they presented to the board.

1702
02:11:56,460 --> 02:12:03,860
They have represented that they have to go back to the planning board as the approval authority for the stormwater.

1703
02:12:04,720 --> 02:12:12,080
And that they represented that there would be some discussion with the planning board in that capacity about the snow storage area.

1704
02:12:13,000 --> 02:12:15,480
Right. I requested that they basically cut it in half.

1705
02:12:15,480 --> 02:12:20,780
like there's a, like a dotted line there, and they seems that they were receptive to that.

1706
02:12:20,960 --> 02:12:24,480
I just want to make sure that's actually going to be.

1707
02:12:25,260 --> 02:12:27,180
That's not what's shown on our plan.

1708
02:12:27,880 --> 02:12:30,540
So no, that is not what's shown on this plan.

1709
02:12:30,940 --> 02:12:35,320
They're showing the whole, like, I think you will line through in a copy.

1710
02:12:35,380 --> 02:12:37,560
Just as they show this area.

1711
02:12:37,980 --> 02:12:43,100
Well, I requested that they would just take this section all the way and use the section.

1712
02:12:44,240 --> 02:12:47,320
that's probably on the plans presented to us.

1713
02:12:47,500 --> 02:12:48,820
They can comment on that.

1714
02:12:49,760 --> 02:12:53,920
And the other thing was, is that a retaining wall below that snow removal area?

1715
02:12:54,220 --> 02:12:54,920
Is it just curbing?

1716
02:12:58,060 --> 02:13:03,680
They can answer that question, but I believe the plan is so retaining wall that is like an else,

1717
02:13:04,240 --> 02:13:05,120
like an end.

1718
02:13:05,520 --> 02:13:11,200
Yeah, the side with a line of heat garage, and then that runs behind the residential property, correct?

1719
02:13:12,160 --> 02:13:12,800
That's correct.

1720
02:13:13,700 --> 02:13:16,240
How far away is that from the property line?

1721
02:13:18,570 --> 02:13:20,290
Is it on the property line or is it close?

1722
02:13:20,690 --> 02:13:22,570
It's with in our property.

1723
02:13:22,910 --> 02:13:24,150
It's in your property.

1724
02:13:24,310 --> 02:13:25,590
It's on our property.

1725
02:13:29,440 --> 02:13:31,140
As far as that being like.

1726
02:13:31,340 --> 02:13:33,760
It's at a structure or is that just.

1727
02:13:34,200 --> 02:13:35,620
Part of like.

1728
02:13:36,040 --> 02:13:37,280
The grade and.

1729
02:13:37,980 --> 02:13:39,680
It's like a block structure that could.

1730
02:13:40,020 --> 02:13:40,380
For a wall.

1731
02:13:40,700 --> 02:13:40,740
Okay.

1732
02:13:40,820 --> 02:13:45,120
Would that be considered a structure that we part of a set back or anything like that?

1733
02:13:45,260 --> 02:13:45,580
No.

1734
02:13:45,580 --> 02:13:46,340
Okay.

1735
02:13:47,600 --> 02:13:49,460
So I'd more like a fence.

1736
02:13:49,940 --> 02:13:52,480
Okay, so if we can sort of basically call a fence or something.

1737
02:13:52,600 --> 02:13:54,140
So there's no rule in this.

1738
02:13:58,440 --> 02:14:02,500
Then I think that ends with my questions and good luck.

1739
02:14:02,560 --> 02:14:03,260
Thank you.

1740
02:14:03,260 --> 02:14:04,040
Thank you.

1741
02:14:04,640 --> 02:14:05,460
Anyone else?

1742
02:14:15,170 --> 02:14:15,450
Good evening.

1743
02:14:15,450 --> 02:14:16,950
Mike, where are six Bradley have?

1744
02:14:17,390 --> 02:14:19,230
Just a couple of questions for clarification.

1745
02:14:20,770 --> 02:14:20,910
Six.

1746
02:14:21,310 --> 02:14:22,330
What else are Bradley have?

1747
02:14:23,330 --> 02:14:25,730
Just to piggyback the former,

1748
02:14:25,730 --> 02:14:27,850
like a neighbor in the neighbor who they're

1749
02:14:27,850 --> 02:14:30,330
with the comment about the noise or answer.

1750
02:14:30,490 --> 02:14:33,970
I know an article 34, the 17 decibel came up

1751
02:14:33,970 --> 02:14:37,210
when we talk about impact guns and pneumatic guns,

1752
02:14:37,430 --> 02:14:39,890
depending on the making model of a commercial impact gun,

1753
02:14:40,250 --> 02:14:44,470
that's about 9 to 95 decibels on average.

1754
02:14:45,150 --> 02:14:48,070
And then a pneumatic gun is about 114 to 120.

1755
02:14:49,230 --> 02:14:52,630
So again, with the operation that myadakeeth presenting,

1756
02:14:52,790 --> 02:14:54,910
they do tires, they do oil change,

1757
02:14:54,910 --> 02:14:59,970
do car repairs and all that. It's just hate to see like you know an issue already right off the

1758
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:05,740
We're back at the project, not even round up yet, and there are already potential for issues with violation

1759
02:15:05,740 --> 02:15:11,380
of noise ordinances already in town. I guess that other question I had, too, for the board.

1760
02:15:11,840 --> 02:15:15,120
I understand that there's a pylons, I don't know, front, but is there any consideration

1761
02:15:15,120 --> 02:15:22,040
of illuminated building mounted sign as well? I know, up to 20,000 square feet within the bylaws.

1762
02:15:22,160 --> 02:15:29,240
I think an applicant is available to provide two wall signages, but I didn't see anything in the

1763
02:15:29,240 --> 02:15:34,820
any building mounted signage so just for again for another consideration since there might be

1764
02:15:34,820 --> 02:15:40,160
conditions in there as far as what time signage and lives get shut down if there's, you

1765
02:15:40,160 --> 02:15:45,460
know, wall signage is included on the building as well maybe those should also be considered

1766
02:15:45,460 --> 02:15:52,140
as part of times of evening that those lights should be shut off as well. So they don't have any

1767
02:15:52,140 --> 02:15:56,820
wall signage shown on the plants they would have to. They're going to have them. They're going

1768
02:15:56,820 --> 02:15:59,860
I love that. I love that. I'll have to come back. Okay,

1769
02:16:04,880 --> 02:16:07,780
and then just for my own clarification is this

1770
02:16:09,120 --> 02:16:12,880
I guess parcel still considers part of the overlay district or no

1771
02:16:14,760 --> 02:16:20,620
It was removed at the last time of the year. Okay. That sounds good. I mean the only comment that I have again

1772
02:16:20,620 --> 02:16:22,960
It's really like the traffic which

1773
02:16:22,960 --> 02:16:28,300
You know the applicant's attorney like previously said you know about 25 cars a day or something

1774
02:16:28,300 --> 02:16:34,320
but the post-curve cut inches is more or less less than 120 feet away from route 6 at that

1775
02:16:34,320 --> 02:16:39,360
light, which does not have a dedicated right turn. So just for context, it's about four cars

1776
02:16:39,360 --> 02:16:44,260
coming off the light's due turn kind of quick. So there is what somewhat concerned

1777
02:16:44,900 --> 02:16:50,100
with cars pulling in and out to the proposed establishment here, right off of break enough.

1778
02:16:50,880 --> 02:16:54,800
As it is now, I mean I think at the planning board, one of the blue was the clerk that I mentioned

1779
02:16:54,800 --> 02:17:00,680
that I think it's CPED and in the case of this current intersection right now is like

1780
02:17:00,680 --> 02:17:05,420
top 100 works intersections and that's no disrespect to you it's going to come up in any

1781
02:17:05,420 --> 02:17:11,460
business that comes in here it's okay is there this intersection yes a great

1782
02:17:11,460 --> 02:17:16,160
magnitude and slates very bold that is one of the hundred worst intersections that's correct

1783
02:17:16,160 --> 02:17:22,680
this with the clear connection no stop sign three stop right now the only stop signs on the other

1784
02:17:23,200 --> 02:17:26,300
That's correct. That's what the planning board clerk had indicated.

1785
02:17:27,060 --> 02:17:31,540
It's an issue, no matter what goes there, but again, just the resident of the neighborhood,

1786
02:17:32,100 --> 02:17:33,100
just something to consider.

1787
02:17:34,020 --> 02:17:37,500
I mean, I wish them all the best. I think they're making great considerations in here.

1788
02:17:38,140 --> 02:17:42,780
It's just, again, you know, with the one that lives probably hundreds of something

1789
02:17:42,780 --> 02:17:45,680
feet away and a couple of other neighbors is a six day operation.

1790
02:17:45,800 --> 02:17:49,500
What Saturdays, people do work, home is a place of rest.

1791
02:17:50,000 --> 02:17:55,700
I think they made really good considerations to try to minimize the noise in the site.

1792
02:17:55,860 --> 02:17:58,340
I think the site is the best way, right?

1793
02:17:58,560 --> 02:18:02,900
You got to, uh, there's not a church across the street from this proposal site in there, too.

1794
02:18:03,040 --> 02:18:06,800
I don't know if it makes sense to, you know, or maybe it has been considered, I don't know if

1795
02:18:06,800 --> 02:18:12,420
the applicants have maybe rotating the building 90 degrees, so those bays directly face directly

1796
02:18:12,420 --> 02:18:13,560
out towards the site's ferry.

1797
02:18:13,860 --> 02:18:18,940
You'd still have the same presence on Route 6 for advertising, and still have the, uh, the

1798
02:18:18,940 --> 02:18:23,440
line sign up front you still have building signage up there but all the bays now would face

1799
02:18:23,440 --> 02:18:29,300
out towards Slatesfaring out towards Route 6 and the back of the building would be more

1800
02:18:29,300 --> 02:18:36,980
less back towards the uh the a butter not towards Slatesfaring Road and then you can utilize that

1801
02:18:36,980 --> 02:18:42,020
existing curb cut on Slatesfaring coming off which potentially wouldn't back off so many cars

1802
02:18:42,620 --> 02:18:47,420
coming in off of Route 6 on the Britain. Don't know if that's been considered.

1803
02:18:50,100 --> 02:18:51,960
There is already an existing,

1804
02:18:53,990 --> 02:18:57,610
so it's not necessarily proposed it exists there already.

1805
02:18:58,350 --> 02:19:03,710
When I apologize him, it's just like his suggestion would be, it's just maybe,

1806
02:19:04,510 --> 02:19:09,970
if it has been considered a sighting this building on site, perhaps rotating it with a 90,

1807
02:19:10,190 --> 02:19:14,650
I mean if they would still come back for a variance, but it would fit that way,

1808
02:19:14,650 --> 02:19:17,270
But again, they would orientate the building where everything

1809
02:19:17,270 --> 02:19:20,430
faces down, root six, and also sleeds.

1810
02:19:20,550 --> 02:19:23,290
Noise would be dispersed down, root six versus out,

1811
02:19:24,070 --> 02:19:26,270
and potentially around the neighborhood as well, too.

1812
02:19:26,330 --> 02:19:27,910
The business could still operate, which six

1813
02:19:27,910 --> 02:19:31,710
bays in there, different considerations for traffic.

1814
02:19:33,590 --> 02:19:35,650
I know the applicant had mentioned that also

1815
02:19:35,650 --> 02:19:37,810
too, like there's walls packs on there.

1816
02:19:38,370 --> 02:19:40,870
So when those are dark sky compliant, I don't

1817
02:19:40,870 --> 02:19:42,370
know if the foot canals are, there's no four

1818
02:19:42,370 --> 02:19:46,830
magic plan that we're providing in there too, no, we discussed that as two, but

1819
02:19:46,830 --> 02:19:50,670
this is all just, again, there's some observations that considerations for the board to

1820
02:19:50,670 --> 02:19:52,490
consider prior to making a motion.

1821
02:19:53,250 --> 02:19:57,150
So they've represented that these features, these light fixtures will not

1822
02:19:57,150 --> 02:20:02,130
causing light pollution off the property. So if that's in the decision, then if that

1823
02:20:02,130 --> 02:20:06,670
doesn't fact happen, then that's the buildings, right there's the influences that

1824
02:20:06,670 --> 02:20:07,950
maybe back here again.

1825
02:20:09,390 --> 02:20:13,790
understood just the way to like you know if there's a way for the board to see

1826
02:20:13,790 --> 02:20:19,470
now before there could be a potential you know issue. I hear we're saying

1827
02:20:19,470 --> 02:20:24,070
about the traffic but actually if the buildings rotate it as you say it would

1828
02:20:24,070 --> 02:20:28,970
actually create more possibility of the light by them in the neighborhood and the

1829
02:20:28,970 --> 02:20:37,510
sound the sound would be more towards the neighbors not away from them so even at

1830
02:20:37,510 --> 02:20:43,070
Varages were faced down Route 6 because there's no neighbors down the woods laid

1831
02:20:44,230 --> 02:20:51,390
Yeah, or face this way if you were to take the building

1832
02:21:00,650 --> 02:21:07,710
Yeah, we have more than double parking that way you're required now because you only need seven you have 21 spaces

1833
02:21:12,130 --> 02:21:17,450
And there's no houses here, this is a commercial coffee shop.

1834
02:21:17,830 --> 02:21:20,390
Route 6 here going over the memorial bridge.

1835
02:21:20,750 --> 02:21:22,130
This is all laid down this way.

1836
02:21:22,330 --> 02:21:23,750
So if you were to take this here,

1837
02:21:24,070 --> 02:21:28,190
we'll just go down to a commercial versus the way it's currently out.

1838
02:21:29,350 --> 02:21:31,230
And then the back of this building, I would be here.

1839
02:21:32,350 --> 02:21:36,690
And then with the, a butter's concerned about snow, snow would be here.

1840
02:21:37,290 --> 02:21:40,330
There would be no need for a provision for a line or any other additional.

1841
02:21:40,990 --> 02:21:51,770
but you've already looked at it, so yeah, and it closes up, it closes up some of that parking and this whole snow removal area, so now that would all come out of the parking space.

1842
02:21:55,430 --> 02:21:55,670
Are you good?

1843
02:21:55,970 --> 02:21:57,310
So I appreciate the time.

1844
02:21:57,910 --> 02:21:58,310
Thank you.

1845
02:22:02,360 --> 02:22:06,120
I just got a couple of things out of you for a month.

1846
02:22:09,820 --> 02:22:11,400
Yeah, whoever wants to address you.

1847
02:22:11,400 --> 02:22:19,300
as far as the quote about the decibel levels of the equipment that he's talking about, that's

1848
02:22:19,300 --> 02:22:26,960
at the source, that's not at the property line, that's not off. So that's not relevant to what

1849
02:22:28,160 --> 02:22:29,960
with the by-law shows and what is that.

1850
02:22:30,000 --> 02:22:41,880
Actually, the operation. We looked at all options as far as how to orient the rotation of the building, how it functions and everything. This is the only way that this building functions.

1851
02:22:43,040 --> 02:22:58,340
And it's the best sighting for the building for all parties, for the neighborhood, for the client, for basically for this operation. There's no way to do it in a different way.

1852
02:22:59,320 --> 02:23:05,020
The building itself, so the back of the building is obviously basically it's very, no

1853
02:23:05,020 --> 02:23:07,740
actual wall that faces the other side right now.

1854
02:23:08,460 --> 02:23:14,160
So the construction of the building itself, can you speak to how that might get in some

1855
02:23:14,160 --> 02:23:14,800
of the noise?

1856
02:23:15,620 --> 02:23:22,580
That's a solid wall, it's not a, there's just a door penetration to that vinyl area of

1857
02:23:22,580 --> 02:23:26,820
final fence area, but it's pretty much that's that's where you get the maximum

1858
02:23:27,540 --> 02:23:32,660
reduction in any kind of noise. Is it a metal bill that you put in a metal

1859
02:23:32,660 --> 02:23:35,020
or is it brick or a block?

1860
02:23:37,080 --> 02:23:39,940
Metal bill. And you're going to insulate that.

1861
02:23:39,940 --> 02:23:40,740
It's going to be insulate.

1862
02:23:43,600 --> 02:23:45,000
It's a metal bill in this.

1863
02:23:45,540 --> 02:23:47,340
Yes. But it will be insulated.

1864
02:23:49,540 --> 02:23:56,050
So believe me, I look at all these, when I design a project, I'm always looking at it

1865
02:23:56,050 --> 02:24:00,690
from everybody's perspective, because this is where I'm going to end up with the project,

1866
02:24:00,930 --> 02:24:03,310
and that's why I want to make sure that I'm looking at all those things.

1867
02:24:07,190 --> 02:24:07,490
So, okay.

1868
02:24:08,150 --> 02:24:08,970
You'll be sitting there, so.

1869
02:24:09,430 --> 02:24:12,830
Yeah, I'm just going to chair just another quick thing.

1870
02:24:13,710 --> 02:24:15,530
The way that this is positioned to the neighborhood,

1871
02:24:17,950 --> 02:24:19,950
I live currently next to Bristol

1872
02:24:19,950 --> 02:24:25,290
Marine, and this board, I believe, approved a variance for a rather large building maybe 300

1873
02:24:25,290 --> 02:24:27,550
feet long to put boats in.

1874
02:24:27,550 --> 02:24:36,370
Literally is 50 feet off of my property line. My whole neighborhood was upset. I was the biggest

1875
02:24:36,370 --> 02:24:42,990
affected right next to me. I'm going to tell you all the other people that had uses on this

1876
02:24:42,990 --> 02:24:50,470
property. This is more of the neighbors. It's been landscape yards, fence companies. It's a lot

1877
02:24:50,470 --> 02:24:54,930
of stuff. It's a lot of mess in the open. What I'm pointing out with this building, the way

1878
02:24:54,930 --> 02:24:58,470
that they have the back to the neighborhood is in my situation.

1879
02:24:58,870 --> 02:24:59,970
I didn't know it.

1880
02:24:59,970 --> 02:25:02,030
It was a best thing that ever happened to my property.

1881
02:25:02,550 --> 02:25:07,330
I was looking across three acres of boat stands and boats and people

1882
02:25:07,330 --> 02:25:10,170
grinding on, it cleaned my whole property up.

1883
02:25:10,890 --> 02:25:14,090
This is kind of going to be the best scenario with this for the

1884
02:25:14,090 --> 02:25:16,330
residential in the back of it.

1885
02:25:16,490 --> 02:25:18,270
It is going to clean it up a lot.

1886
02:25:18,570 --> 02:25:24,910
Compared to if somebody could build on this property and have the

1887
02:25:25,670 --> 02:25:27,910
Well, you don't with the opuxula.

1888
02:25:29,670 --> 02:25:29,810
Yes.

1889
02:25:29,810 --> 02:25:32,090
Because I was involved in that when I was on a planet board.

1890
02:25:33,250 --> 02:25:38,150
And for me, I mean, I know a lot of the neighbors didn't really love it, but it turned out to be one of the better things.

1891
02:25:38,870 --> 02:25:43,910
Because we were just looking at, I wanted to tell you how much trucks, cars, everything.

1892
02:25:44,650 --> 02:25:50,210
This back of the building for at least these neighbors is at least going to block the day to day.

1893
02:25:50,610 --> 02:25:53,950
And the point on the decibels on an egg on that's when you pull the trigger.

1894
02:25:53,950 --> 02:25:58,990
The by-law says on the property line, that's where they do the test, is that the property

1895
02:25:58,990 --> 02:26:01,190
line not at the actual A-gun.

1896
02:26:01,990 --> 02:26:07,050
All of our businesses, Rollins, everybody has the A-guns, but we're going to put everybody out

1897
02:26:07,050 --> 02:26:07,410
of business.

1898
02:26:08,190 --> 02:26:09,230
It's just part of life.

1899
02:26:09,430 --> 02:26:11,270
We all need our cars, worked on and service.

1900
02:26:12,250 --> 02:26:17,770
But I just wanted to point that up because I think maybe nobody knows it now, but this is

1901
02:26:17,770 --> 02:26:23,670
like one of the best scenarios to get the blank back of a building to a residential area.

1902
02:26:24,210 --> 02:26:27,490
and set up the working end of it, you know?

1903
02:26:28,370 --> 02:26:34,150
I'm glad it worked out for you where you lived with the boat yacht,

1904
02:26:34,630 --> 02:26:37,510
because myself and Don said it's we're involved in that.

1905
02:26:38,290 --> 02:26:39,970
We brought them people down.

1906
02:26:40,570 --> 02:26:42,590
And we had everybody who wanted to kill us.

1907
02:26:43,230 --> 02:26:45,270
But then everybody fell in love with it.

1908
02:26:46,090 --> 02:26:47,250
So that was a good thing.

1909
02:26:47,650 --> 02:26:49,290
Yeah, I just wanted to say that.

1910
02:26:56,610 --> 02:26:59,810
It's up to you whether you want to go first or second.

1911
02:27:00,570 --> 02:27:00,970
Okay.

1912
02:27:01,690 --> 02:27:03,030
I just want to say one thing.

1913
02:27:03,090 --> 02:27:04,470
Listen to you, you're right.

1914
02:27:04,690 --> 02:27:07,030
Because the Taco Bell would be way worse.

1915
02:27:08,470 --> 02:27:10,150
Food all over the place and everything.

1916
02:27:11,610 --> 02:27:11,710
So.

1917
02:27:11,810 --> 02:27:12,190
The border.

1918
02:27:13,770 --> 02:27:14,150
Okay.

1919
02:27:14,310 --> 02:27:16,830
You know, I'm going to take everything back.

1920
02:27:17,470 --> 02:27:18,930
Oh, if I should, but I am.

1921
02:27:20,090 --> 02:27:21,130
There were scenarios.

1922
02:27:21,130 --> 02:27:27,770
I'm looking at the bell of McDonald's or something that would be like chick-flay chick-flay

1923
02:27:28,350 --> 02:27:34,550
That would be worse and you might be right at least we're having the back of it and

1924
02:27:35,630 --> 02:27:39,150
It won't be drilling every two seconds. So

1925
02:27:39,990 --> 02:27:45,070
Can I shoot you don't have to take it back you don't have to take it back because I agree or it's not I'm like no

1926
02:27:45,070 --> 02:27:46,530
Right this could be way worse

1927
02:27:48,410 --> 02:27:50,070
It's going to be worse.

1928
02:27:50,530 --> 02:27:57,310
So food, bug, you live in the neighborhood that the back of that building is going to be facing, correct?

1929
02:27:57,570 --> 02:27:59,390
That's where most of the neighborhood is.

1930
02:27:59,990 --> 02:28:08,550
The only real, second house, so the real, direct, a butter is the gentleman that came up.

1931
02:28:09,310 --> 02:28:11,710
And it sounds like he's all for this movement.

1932
02:28:12,890 --> 02:28:18,250
He doesn't have a pool. He doesn't hang in his yard all day. If I didn't have a pool, I wouldn't

1933
02:28:18,250 --> 02:28:19,690
have it said that.

1934
02:28:20,090 --> 02:28:26,230
And listening to everyone like yourself, I'm, yeah, the Bayes, the work Bayes, are facing

1935
02:28:26,230 --> 02:28:31,110
root sex. Right. They may not be directly facing root sex or being being, you know, whatever

1936
02:28:31,110 --> 02:28:36,890
is down there. But most of that noise is going to be directed away from you. Right. Now,

1937
02:28:36,890 --> 02:28:39,250
I don't know which way you travel to get home,

1938
02:28:39,430 --> 02:28:42,270
but if you decide to go Route 6 to Brayton Point,

1939
02:28:42,370 --> 02:28:43,370
by me, Brayton Avenue,

1940
02:28:43,850 --> 02:28:45,470
yeah, you're probably gonna hear some hurt, huh?

1941
02:28:45,690 --> 02:28:47,470
Yeah, well, I don't think there's another,

1942
02:28:47,470 --> 02:28:48,510
how long the way?

1943
02:28:48,530 --> 02:28:50,810
Well, he mentioned Taco Bell, I was like, oh, Lord.

1944
02:28:51,750 --> 02:28:52,150
No, we don't.

1945
02:28:52,150 --> 02:28:53,670
No, because he actually,

1946
02:28:53,670 --> 02:28:55,450
John, I thought I'd be a lot worse

1947
02:28:55,450 --> 02:28:57,570
because I was going to say I'm exactly right.

1948
02:28:57,630 --> 02:28:58,950
And then you're dealing with dumpsters,

1949
02:28:59,210 --> 02:28:59,950
you're dealing with food,

1950
02:28:59,990 --> 02:29:01,350
you could be dealing with rodents.

1951
02:29:01,410 --> 02:29:03,650
Right, so this is, yeah.

1952
02:29:03,650 --> 02:29:05,470
Yeah, stay in open till midnight.

1953
02:29:07,390 --> 02:29:08,150
So don't worry.

1954
02:29:08,290 --> 02:29:08,610
We're good.

1955
02:29:08,730 --> 02:29:09,030
All right.

1956
02:29:09,150 --> 02:29:09,630
OK.

1957
02:29:09,630 --> 02:29:09,850
Thank you.

1958
02:29:12,030 --> 02:29:14,710
How was the audience going to talk about such a was?

1959
02:29:15,770 --> 02:29:16,850
I have the honor of our hours.

1960
02:29:17,390 --> 02:29:19,150
19 trim and a half.

1961
02:29:19,790 --> 02:29:22,910
We're not against business and the neighborhood.

1962
02:29:23,430 --> 02:29:29,230
So I think we want a good neighbor in our neighborhood.

1963
02:29:29,230 --> 02:29:36,810
right, and so it's really great to hear. He's been recognized. In other communities, you know,

1964
02:29:36,830 --> 02:29:42,710
we do want that partnership. I think as you've heard, the two biggest concerns is, you know,

1965
02:29:42,830 --> 02:29:48,010
noise and light. Some very happy to hear the discussion around the sign and the light in the

1966
02:29:48,010 --> 02:29:56,850
parking lot. So we can limit the hours of most businesses shut off their giant lights and signs

1967
02:29:56,850 --> 02:29:59,970
When that business is closed, I'm so I don't even know

1968
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:09,840
If it would need to be until 9 PM at night. Maybe that's earlier. It sounds like this business will really only be open mostly during daylight hours anyway.

1969
02:30:10,800 --> 02:30:21,020
And the parking lot lights should take care of, you know, if they go automatically on and off, when people go in, people should be able to come in and do the drop off thing.

1970
02:30:21,020 --> 02:30:27,500
for the noise, I hope that our noise ordinance would help protect us and that.

1971
02:30:28,900 --> 02:30:39,580
You know, I don't know if this, if you would want to do a noise study in advance, because that would prevent, hopefully show that they would be able to stay within the noise ordinance and prevent any.

1972
02:30:39,600 --> 02:30:42,940
He has to stay within the noise ordinance.

1973
02:30:42,940 --> 02:30:48,980
That's it's good to hear, but I wouldn't want to set us up for a battle in the future.

1974
02:30:50,100 --> 02:30:56,200
So, you know, if he could know that he would be able to stay within that seven eight.

1975
02:30:57,400 --> 02:30:59,880
I mean, air guns are a lot louder than that.

1976
02:31:00,060 --> 02:31:05,340
As I said, sometimes they go up to a hundred or over a hundred if they're heavy duty.

1977
02:31:05,700 --> 02:31:08,760
The property line is not far away, right?

1978
02:31:09,900 --> 02:31:15,100
Hopefully the business would, the building itself would prevent that from going into the neighborhood,

1979
02:31:16,160 --> 02:31:21,700
but I don't know that we know that, right, where just, we're hoping that it would.

1980
02:31:24,890 --> 02:31:25,130
Thank you.

1981
02:31:25,330 --> 02:31:25,890
No, good.

1982
02:31:26,830 --> 02:31:34,570
Anybody who comes here with these, that's, you have the absolute right to do that,

1983
02:31:34,850 --> 02:31:36,550
and represent your opinion.

1984
02:31:37,250 --> 02:31:39,990
So don't ever feel bad about someone here because I mean,

1985
02:31:39,990 --> 02:31:49,210
if you don't advocate for yourselves, then we do what we do, but you live there.

1986
02:31:50,550 --> 02:31:54,070
So you shouldn't advocate for yourselves. So don't ever feel bad about someone you're

1987
02:31:54,070 --> 02:31:57,530
not saying anything. We had businesses. Yeah.

1988
02:31:57,570 --> 02:32:03,230
Neros, that haven't been kept up, haven't been taken care of and haven't been good neighbors

1989
02:32:03,230 --> 02:32:09,090
to the community. So that's just, that's really what we want to make for our people.

1990
02:32:09,090 --> 02:32:13,270
So, and it does sound like you'll be a good neighbor to it in your days.

1991
02:32:13,730 --> 02:32:16,990
And I encourage you to take a ride down 44 mm.

1992
02:32:17,270 --> 02:32:18,450
You didn't even see it in a while.

1993
02:32:19,170 --> 02:32:20,650
I did. I did.

1994
02:32:22,770 --> 02:32:24,190
I don't have to sell it any more.

1995
02:32:25,170 --> 02:32:26,810
You've been doing it.

1996
02:32:27,010 --> 02:32:28,570
I work it off just like that.

1997
02:32:29,170 --> 02:32:30,350
Please write down the truth.

1998
02:32:31,030 --> 02:32:32,290
I do people with that.

1999
02:32:32,490 --> 02:32:33,990
I need more additional service.

2000
02:32:34,530 --> 02:32:34,970
What?

2001
02:32:37,490 --> 02:32:41,650
this is only going to be the most mighty we can't do business

2002
02:32:41,650 --> 02:32:51,350
commuters so I mean just in summary I I I I'm reading the room correctly I

2003
02:32:51,350 --> 02:32:56,170
think the concerns have been addressed I think the noise by law will adequately

2004
02:32:57,330 --> 02:33:02,370
address the concerns of noise I mean certainly he's on notice that that's a

2005
02:33:02,370 --> 02:33:09,410
sir in the neighborhood, and he's unnoticed that he needs to comply with it, and they'll have to take all measures to do so.

2006
02:33:10,670 --> 02:33:17,370
So I would ask that the petition be granted as presented.

2007
02:33:18,350 --> 02:33:31,310
I don't, I do believe he agreed to shut the main light off at the hours suggested, and to have the landscaping along the rear order.

2008
02:33:32,670 --> 02:33:39,190
As far as the snow area, I think we're in agreement that will be addressed during site plan review.

2009
02:33:39,790 --> 02:33:43,910
So with that said, I, if there's no more questions, I would ask that the petition will be great.

2010
02:33:44,210 --> 02:33:45,270
I just do a one more question.

2011
02:33:46,130 --> 02:33:55,750
So I would like to see a condition that you submit a photometric plan when you apply for the building permit to the buildings back there.

2012
02:33:55,750 --> 02:33:59,230
or rather wise, the other option would be

2013
02:33:59,230 --> 02:34:01,690
we continue this and just submit a photometric plan.

2014
02:34:02,210 --> 02:34:03,510
I think that's part of it.

2015
02:34:03,670 --> 02:34:06,030
Yeah, because the photometric plan

2016
02:34:06,030 --> 02:34:08,770
will be shown on the screen right off the side.

2017
02:34:09,250 --> 02:34:14,090
Yeah, only because we're a little bit sensitive to that,

2018
02:34:14,650 --> 02:34:17,610
because we've had some issues in the past.

2019
02:34:17,990 --> 02:34:19,970
So I think that if that plans submitted

2020
02:34:19,970 --> 02:34:22,350
to the buildings, but when you get the building permit,

2021
02:34:22,350 --> 02:34:28,430
That just shows that and that's a condition in this decision. I think that that would that would help

2022
02:34:28,430 --> 02:34:32,690
I don't want to continue this to say oh come back next month with a four-metre plan, right?

2023
02:34:32,870 --> 02:34:35,450
I mean, I mean, I mean, it's not going to change anything

2024
02:34:35,450 --> 02:34:39,230
You've represented that that that the life's going to be contained in the property

2025
02:34:39,230 --> 02:34:43,510
It's just we're just submit that plan to the building expected then. Then it's just documented

2026
02:34:44,430 --> 02:34:44,870
Right

2027
02:34:44,870 --> 02:34:48,170
a building for a bit. Yeah. A poor electric plant showing

2028
02:34:48,170 --> 02:34:53,430
compliance with. Right. It's a made of the building. Yeah, good. These

2029
02:34:53,430 --> 02:34:59,230
disowning enforcement officials. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Yeah. Okay. All right. Anybody

2030
02:34:59,230 --> 02:35:02,030
else have any other questions on this? No. Okay.

2031
02:35:04,600 --> 02:35:06,000
So just to make sure just to

2032
02:35:06,000 --> 02:35:16,540
go through and make sure we have everything. You need a variance for the

2033
02:35:16,540 --> 02:35:21,480
It's very correct. And that's the only stuff I have the fairies that you meet correct.

2034
02:35:26,840 --> 02:35:29,780
Okay, yeah, yeah, it goes around the corner.

2035
02:35:32,160 --> 02:35:36,540
So that would basically be a rare inside the odd variance.

2036
02:35:38,060 --> 02:35:40,660
You want to do it because it's a corner lot.

2037
02:35:40,780 --> 02:35:44,320
I think the bylock considers them both both front but we can do that.

2038
02:35:44,320 --> 02:35:47,040
What do you want to do this?

2039
02:35:47,480 --> 02:36:01,180
That's then you need to require for the special permit in 7.5 and 7.6 the plan development.

2040
02:36:02,420 --> 02:36:09,420
So the only thing in the plan development is there is a requirement that

2041
02:36:27,280 --> 02:36:28,380
any lot of plan

2042
02:36:28,380 --> 02:36:31,960
which is adjacent to a residence or any building or a lot of use for the one purpose

2043
02:36:31,960 --> 02:36:36,880
any different shabby provided with a continuous wall of solid appearance or a tight

2044
02:36:36,880 --> 02:36:43,120
evergreen head, six feet high, a long apparel out to set a lot of lines, such hedge and I

2045
02:36:43,120 --> 02:36:49,560
stand within 25 feet of the front line. So, right now, what you have is that retaining wall,

2046
02:36:50,460 --> 02:36:55,140
along the property, the residential property line, I believe, along the retaining wall, there's

2047
02:36:55,140 --> 02:36:57,080
also a six foot fence, right, proposed.

2048
02:36:57,260 --> 02:37:00,320
So that satisfies that requirement, right?

2049
02:37:00,880 --> 02:37:05,580
Yes, so that's, and then that should be it.

2050
02:37:05,740 --> 02:37:08,880
It should be better than that, and anybody have anything else?

2051
02:37:09,600 --> 02:37:13,300
So we have the hours of, so when the individual had the hours

2052
02:37:13,300 --> 02:37:18,080
of operation, 730 to 6 when they were Friday, 8 to 4

2053
02:37:18,080 --> 02:37:21,760
on Saturday, closed on Sunday, we have something in there

2054
02:37:21,760 --> 02:37:26,680
that the sign is shut off between 9 and 6 to 9 p.m.

2055
02:37:27,280 --> 02:37:28,520
the free standing side.

2056
02:37:28,540 --> 02:37:29,700
The free standing side.

2057
02:37:29,820 --> 02:37:29,960
Correct.

2058
02:37:30,340 --> 02:37:35,540
The lights, the other lights have to stay up to security purposes. If you have an online building.

2059
02:37:37,600 --> 02:37:46,520
The dumpster, the picker whether the dumpster shouldn't be before 630 in the morning, the same as when the lights are coming to come back on the side.

2060
02:37:49,660 --> 02:37:50,800
There's something like that.

2061
02:37:50,960 --> 02:37:53,080
Yeah, we can use a 30. That's fine.

2062
02:37:55,480 --> 02:37:55,960
Yeah.

2063
02:37:56,600 --> 02:38:01,080
So the dumpster would pick up would be not after.

2064
02:38:01,080 --> 02:38:09,080
not really the 6.30 a.m. and no later than what I didn't want here in the 30 p.m.

2065
02:38:09,380 --> 02:38:10,800
Yes, that's fine.

2066
02:38:14,310 --> 02:38:20,750
I'm making motion. We approve the application with the, uh, the, uh, the, um, the

2067
02:38:20,750 --> 02:38:23,010
conditions and the function and the photo.

2068
02:38:23,110 --> 02:38:23,390
And the.

2069
02:38:24,370 --> 02:38:31,610
And it should be a finding, uh, that stricken forcement of the setback by law would result in a

2070
02:38:31,610 --> 02:38:34,290
practical difficulty due to the shape of a lot.

2071
02:38:34,290 --> 02:38:35,370
Yeah, yeah.

2072
02:38:35,430 --> 02:38:35,710
Yeah.

2073
02:38:35,710 --> 02:38:35,810
Oh,

2074
02:38:37,830 --> 02:38:37,910
good.

2075
02:38:38,150 --> 02:38:38,770
I made that moment.

2076
02:38:39,090 --> 02:38:39,710
I made the motion.

2077
02:38:40,130 --> 02:38:40,790
I made the motion.

2078
02:38:40,790 --> 02:38:42,090
I made the motion.

2079
02:38:42,810 --> 02:38:43,170
Second.

2080
02:38:44,050 --> 02:38:45,190
Then I'm going to.

2081
02:38:45,590 --> 02:38:46,250
The Motorcycle.

2082
02:38:46,410 --> 02:38:47,890
Steve Cadder and I.

2083
02:38:48,150 --> 02:38:49,530
So it takes about a week.

2084
02:38:49,730 --> 02:38:51,870
There's a 20 day of field period.

2085
02:38:52,550 --> 02:38:53,710
There's no real field of things.

2086
02:38:54,270 --> 02:38:56,070
Very good.

2087
02:38:56,290 --> 02:38:56,690
You know that.

2088
02:38:57,410 --> 02:38:58,590
I appreciate it.

2089
02:38:59,290 --> 02:38:59,670
Thank you.

2090
02:39:00,250 --> 02:39:01,350
Good luck with that.

2091
02:39:01,690 --> 02:39:02,070
Good luck.

2092
02:39:02,610 --> 02:39:03,130
Thank you.

2093
02:39:03,130 --> 02:39:03,530
Yeah.

2094
02:39:03,530 --> 02:39:05,730
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2095
02:39:05,730 --> 02:39:06,670
Oh yeah, yeah.

2096
02:39:06,670 --> 02:39:06,990
Good night.

2097
02:39:07,450 --> 02:39:08,530
Thank you.

2098
02:39:11,570 --> 02:39:14,350
Thank you so much.

2099
02:39:14,350 --> 02:39:14,690
Okay.

2100
02:39:19,660 --> 02:39:20,940
Bye, shoot.

2101
02:39:22,900 --> 02:39:24,180
Thank you.

2102
02:39:24,940 --> 02:39:25,900
Step, would you like to continue?

2103
02:39:26,260 --> 02:39:27,100
Keep that in.

2104
02:39:35,200 --> 02:39:36,780
Anything else on your agenda sir?

2105
02:39:39,520 --> 02:39:43,200
So I'll review and include in the correspondence of the invoice when I'll have any.

2106
02:39:43,200 --> 02:39:49,700
I did the review and I'll prove the minutes of August 6, September 10th and September 17th.

2107
02:39:49,700 --> 02:39:57,920
All right, make a motion that we approve the minutes of August 6, September 10th, September 17th.

2108
02:39:57,920 --> 02:39:58,260
Second.

2109
02:39:58,260 --> 02:39:59,920
Steve Bauder-Sai.

2110
02:40:01,340 --> 02:40:02,040
Steve Cateren-I.

2111
02:40:02,220 --> 02:40:02,840
Motion to withdraw.

2112
02:40:03,820 --> 02:40:04,700
Motion to a June.

2113
02:40:05,020 --> 02:40:05,380
Second.

2114
02:40:06,100 --> 02:40:07,320
Ben on Miranda-I.

2115
02:40:07,680 --> 02:40:08,400
Steve Bauder-Sai.

2116
02:40:08,540 --> 02:40:09,460
Steve Cateren-I.