[0:03] Don't keep calling.
[0:06] I talked to her. .
[0:11] We were panicking all of a sudden.
[0:29] Yeah, I know.
[0:47] Okay. Time being seven o'clock I'd like to call to
[0:49] order this.
[0:51] Summersworth historic district commission meeting for Wednesday, September 23rd.
[0:56] And first order of business is Roco.
[0:59] Miss Meers.
[1:02] Hello. Sorry.
[1:09] present Berry here.
[1:14] Here.
[1:16] Howard.
[1:18] Here.
[1:20] Shauna.
[1:22] Shannon Sartori, sorry, Tori present. I'm.
[1:28] Power absent.
[1:30] Absent.
[1:35] All right.
[1:37] Sorry.
[1:39] Next on the agenda is approval of minutes of previous
[1:41] meetings. We have August 26th, regular meeting minutes.
[1:48] I'm a commotion to improve the minutes.
[1:50] Do we have a second? I second it, I have
[1:52] comment.
[1:54] Tim.
[1:56] The
[1:59] I'm not page three of five.
[2:01] Very bottom line.
[2:04] The sentence is incomplete. It should be windows and door.
[2:08] B approved as submitted is missing.
[2:12] And it's not on the top of the following page.
[2:15] Are we sure. Cuz it does say approved as presented.
[2:18] Well, that's the title of the motion.
[2:21] But not the words that were said.
[2:24] I would think, what does it proved as submitted as
[2:27] presented? And it says the motion was seconded by Ms.
[2:30] Showing I reading that, but I assumed that that was.
[2:33] Not part of the paragraph. That was part of the
[2:34] title of the motion, but I may be mistaken.
[2:37] I think the formatting is weird, but I think that
[2:39] it's yeah, I think it's just a page break because
[2:42] it.
[2:43] Says approve is presented and then the motion was seconded,
[2:45] motion carried. So I, I think it's all there. I
[2:48] don't, it's smooth. It doesn't matter. It all happened, but
[2:50] I just wanted to make.
[2:51] A note that the sentence didn't end.
[2:54] For the period or any other.
[2:56] Typical the record should reflect that we have another member
[2:59] who's joined us.
[3:03] Let that reflect. We should probably say her name so
[3:05] that it's on the, yes. So.
[3:08] We'll note that Lori Stein has showed up arrived is now
[3:12] present. Great point out that I'm late seven.
[3:16] Oh three . Thanks.
[3:20] Okay. So back to the motion we have the motion
[3:23] to approve it, and we have a second by Mr.
[3:25] Meric. Any other discussion on the motion?
[3:28] See none, all those to approve the motion.
[3:31] Approval of the military is your right hand.
[3:33] Opposed motion passes seven zero.
[3:38] I, I didn't note it before, but we do have
[3:40] a full board. We have two alternates here, so.
[3:43] Obviously everybody's welcome to discuss and ask questions.
[3:47] Questions just obviously we don't have a need for the
[3:48] alternate, but you're always welcome to.
[3:51] Join in the discussion.
[3:54] All right.
[3:59] All right. Just
[4:02] all right. Third item on the agenda is projects of
[4:05] minimal impact Ms. Meers.
[4:07] Yes. Thank you. Mr. Chairman 12 Highland street, unit D.
[4:12] Received minimal.
[4:14] Impact for proposed rooftop, solar and EV charging station.
[4:20] All right.
[4:22] Moving on to public comment by visitors. Do we have
[4:25] any comments by visitors here that would be looking to
[4:29] speak on?
[4:30] Something, not on the agenda.
[4:32] Seeing none. We'll move on to.
[4:35] Old business. Do we have any old business to come
[4:37] before the commission?
[4:39] None that I'm aware, seeing none new business. First item
[4:43] on the agenda is high hopes, Realty limited.
[4:47] Partnership is seeking a certificate of appropriateness to replace trim,
[4:50] repair, siding, and install gutters, and a Gable roof at
[4:54] 98 high street.
[4:55] In the residential business with historic overlay district.
[4:59] Assessor's map 10 lot, 1 55 HDC case number 27 dash
[5:03] 2026.
[5:05] And Ms. MIS, do you have any info on this?
[5:07] Yes. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, the applicant is proposing to
[5:10] complete the following site site improvements.
[5:13] Replacement of trim around the west with composite trim, with
[5:16] the same moldings and measurements applicant.
[5:19] Application of vinyl, sheeting to the east porch and replacement
[5:22] of trim with composite trim.
[5:25] Installation of vinyl gutters on the Southwest roof.
[5:28] Over the car park.
[5:30] Install Gable roof over the south entrance and heat pump
[5:32] unit.
[5:33] And some vinyl siding repair.
[5:37] This is ready for the board to start review.
[5:41] All right. And obviously we have an applicant here. If
[5:43] you don't mind, just state your name for the record
[5:45] and.
[5:46] Good evening. Thank you for.
[5:49] Your volunteerism to be here tonight and always appreciate by
[5:52] the citizens of Summersworth.
[5:54] I mean, cuz I know how hard it is to
[5:56] get volunteers.
[5:58] Brian Barrington resided at 39 noble street. Summersworth New Hampshire.
[6:03] And I'm the, the managing partner of.
[6:06] High hopes, Realty trust.
[6:10] Realty limited partnership, being the landlord for the Coolidge law
[6:14] firm and owned by the same partners.
[6:17] Partners. All right. And is there anything you'd like to
[6:20] add to this?
[6:22] Well, well, we can go into discussion and questions.
[6:26] Questions the
[6:29] this property was.
[6:31] Clearly subject to remodeling.
[6:34] Back in
[6:37] seventies or eighties, the.
[6:40] The trim on the side porch.
[6:43] Is is clearly not.
[6:46] Ancient it's it's all the same.
[6:49] Type in grade, as you currently get at home Depot.
[6:53] But it looks pretty good.
[6:56] And it's just all pine that is sun baked and
[6:59] coming off.
[7:02] There's a bunch of attorneys. We really don't have.
[7:06] Fiber inclination to do a lot of.
[7:08] Work on our buildings ourselves. And so.
[7:12] Given the, the sun and the, the weather.
[7:15] We'd like to just use composites. My contractor who's.
[7:20] Who's I've represented and know that he does good work.
[7:24] Only represented him because he was trying to collect, not
[7:27] because he's being sued. .
[7:31] Nice clarification. It's gonna be using.
[7:34] The a assures me that composite materials of the same
[7:37] design.
[7:39] Are are present.
[7:41] And so I'm really looking forward to getting.
[7:45] So instead of just having a beam we're, we're gonna,
[7:47] we're gonna keep everything just the way it is. He's
[7:49] under strict orders. I got the pictures. I'll be keeping
[7:51] an eye on.
[7:52] Them so that, you know, it's restored with the same
[7:55] look.
[7:56] There's some
[7:59] that that's.
[8:01] That's the other side porch, which was right on.
[8:04] Constitutional way.
[8:07] Probably shouldn't tell you, but back in the 18 hundreds,
[8:09] it was nice, beautiful spindle.
[8:12] Or trailing and everything. And then now was just changed
[8:15] and just.
[8:16] Solid wall. I painted it the last time. And.
[8:21] Plywood and paint. I really hold very well. So we'd
[8:24] like to have it.
[8:25] Use this for the, for the blank parts, I'll be
[8:28] using the sheathing.
[8:30] The pillars, which are original they'll, they'll just stay the
[8:34] way they are. And they'll.
[8:36] We'll keep the same again, keeping the same look, but
[8:38] just using.
[8:40] A layer of final.
[8:43] Over the existing trim to have the same appearance.
[8:46] Just to make it no maintenance.
[8:50] I think Gabriel, April roof.
[8:53] Such a love with these guys can do interposing the,
[8:56] the Gabriel roof. It looks like we already built it.
[8:59] But it's in your packet, you can see that it
[9:02] has about the same.
[9:04] Roof the same angles.
[9:06] Angles as the existing roof line.
[9:09] That's our main entrance for staff next to our parking.
[9:13] And it really does get to be an icy.
[9:16] Mess in the wintertime because you can see up above
[9:19] it.
[9:20] All the water comes off at this point.
[9:23] And this pours down onto the.
[9:26] Onto the deck there, which would then freezes and.
[9:30] So our, so we're, he's gonna put a composite cable.
[9:34] Gabriel over that door is shown.
[9:37] Shown, and then there's just gonna be a simple.
[9:40] Slanted.
[9:43] Piece of wood over the.
[9:45] Piece of well, not wood, but.
[9:48] Again, roof material over the heat pump. That's there.
[9:55] And so I don't think it's gonna.
[9:57] Well, I'm gonna make sure it doesn't change.
[10:00] The nature of the building.
[10:05] All right.
[10:06] Do you have any questions from the board?
[10:10] Mr mat.
[10:12] Matti. Thank you, Mr. Chair, you've used the term Gable.
[10:16] Roof, but
[10:19] the term really would be Porto over that door just
[10:21] for the Gable would be the.
[10:23] Tylee triangular sided.
[10:26] Much like where you're vented louver is.
[10:29] High above on that cable. And.
[10:31] So you're really constructing that Portico and I understand.
[10:35] That's what you meant and that's that's I understand exactly
[10:37] what you're building.
[10:38] The only confusion with the questions that I might have
[10:40] is.
[10:42] The description says you're doing something similar to the, what
[10:47] is.
[10:48] Proposed, which is a nice rendition over that door.
[10:52] Over the heat pump.
[10:54] There these two windows and the gutter.
[10:58] The heat pump riser. That's I'm not sure how that's
[11:00] going to.
[11:02] How you attaching that there that's very unusual. It's not
[11:05] gonna be attached to the building. Oh, there's two feet
[11:08] between you can't really see it.
[11:10] It's just gonna be
[11:13] a piece of wood, basically just over it, but isn't
[11:16] it. Even he gonna be attached at the building. Understood.
[11:21] Well, technically it's not part of the building, but.
[11:24] It's all my questions. I have a question. All right,
[11:27] Ms. Sean.
[11:28] Vinyl vinyl gutters or do you mean aluminum gutters? Like
[11:32] I, I'm not aware they make vinyl gutters and it
[11:34] seems like they would be very fragile.
[11:38] I think you don't, you mean aluminum gutters?
[11:40] To like catch rain. So they would be aluminum.
[11:47] are they aluminum?
[11:49] I, I don't they're white plastic seated. If I can
[11:52] help, that would be great. Cuz I, the.
[11:55] Proposed is vinyl gutters. And there's a few products that
[11:59] do make vinyl gutters, but they come in these little.
[12:02] Like eight and 10 foot sections that snap together, they
[12:05] leak. They're not really reliable.
[12:07] I'm assuming these is going to be.
[12:10] One piece gutter system.
[12:12] Gutter's system and that won't be in vinyl. That would
[12:14] have to be aluminum. All right. I'd like to.
[12:18] That was my only question, ask you about that. I.
[12:21] I, I
[12:24] I mean, I, I think what you have up there
[12:26] now are.
[12:28] Our VI, our aluminum.
[12:30] I'm assuming you're gonna replace what you have. So no,
[12:33] we're not replacing the, the other gutters are already there.
[12:36] They're gonna be the same design.
[12:39] I guess, you know, they're way up there. So I
[12:40] never realized that they're aluminum instead of plastic.
[12:43] The only place where you wanna put 'em.
[12:46] Is
[12:54] by our dumpster.
[12:57] You see here.
[13:00] There used to be.
[13:02] There's there's no daughters here on either side of it.
[13:07] And so a tremendous amount of water is.
[13:10] Coming into the car park area.
[13:15] Way up high there to just run some aluminum gutters.
[13:19] Along the side.
[13:23] The downspout is still there, but the gutters aren't.
[13:27] Aren't I just, the two sides over the.
[13:31] Car park.
[13:34] Alright, as though there'll be white and blend in with
[13:37] what's there.
[13:45] I have a question.
[13:47] Mr. Julian, did you consider.
[13:51] Installing a gutter over the.
[13:54] Heat pump area instead of covering the heat pump.
[13:59] Yes. And they said it won't work.
[14:02] Because of the way the roof line comes together and
[14:04] throws in.
[14:05] Mm-hmm there actually is already a gutter up there.
[14:13] But it, it just
[14:14] all the roof, it just overwhelms see, there is a
[14:17] gutter way up there.
[14:20] But it just
[14:21] hope it just sprays straight out after coming down, all
[14:25] those roofs.
[14:26] Roofs, let's see a cutter.
[14:34] Now, usually when it rain into his wind and it's
[14:36] usually prevailing, wind is Northwest. So it.
[14:40] That's my office right there. So I can assure you
[14:43] that tons of moisture ends upon that.
[14:47] Sorry, duck.
[14:49] I am not seeing any existing gutters or downspouts.
[14:53] Downspouts. If I may help there's there's no gutter in
[14:57] that view.
[14:59] The one that's over the heat pump. It's.
[15:01] That's the con that's the set lines that lead up
[15:04] to the building that feed into the.
[15:06] AC head in that building.
[15:08] All right.
[15:12] Well, we weren't proposing to put any gutters on this,
[15:15] though.
[15:28] Based on
[15:30] the integrity of this building and the.
[15:34] Multiple additions and changes that have been made to this
[15:37] building.
[15:38] I actually don't have any problem with what's being proposed.
[15:40] Again, we have gutters on part of the building.
[15:44] Even if they added gutters to over the heat pump,
[15:46] I'd be fine with it.
[15:48] The Gable roof structure or Portico. I'm fine with that.
[15:52] Cuz I look at that as a removable thing.
[15:56] That could be removed if ever wanted to be.
[15:58] Again, the heat pump. Those are hard. I understand where
[16:02] a gutter might not help with that. So I'd be
[16:04] okay with, again, I look at it as a temporary
[16:06] structure that could.
[16:07] Be removed easily. So I actually don't have any problem
[16:10] with any of these.
[16:12] Specifically, because they're gonna match what's already there, cuz again,
[16:15] what's there is not anything.
[16:18] Drastically.
[16:20] Or Nate or not current already. So I'm gonna be
[16:24] fine with this.
[16:27] I'm also fine with it.
[16:29] Other than the vinyl.
[16:31] I just was curious about the vinyl.
[16:36] Is there any more question? I'd make a motion. I
[16:38] have a question. Yeah, I, I do too, so, okay.
[16:41] We'll we'll start miss Nuen. Can you just.
[16:44] Clarify this forge with the panels.
[16:47] Panels on it. Would that be.
[16:50] Repaired or you saying this whole thing would just get
[16:52] covered in vital sheeting, just the closed porch, the same
[16:56] mold and the same pattern.
[16:59] So we're gonna
[17:01] instead of having
[17:03] you can see how the, like the baseboard.
[17:05] Wood. There is pretty much, so we're just gonna.
[17:07] Replace all the loose and rotted wood and replace with
[17:10] composite.
[17:12] But the requirement is, is that the finished product look
[17:16] exactly the same.
[17:19] Okay, thank you.
[17:21] Even worse when you get close and look at it.
[17:24] probably falling apart.
[17:26] So she wasn't fire off on my question. Are you
[17:28] replacing all the trim or just the trim as needed?
[17:32] I want the whole thing to be composite. I don't.
[17:35] Don't that they're gonna rebuild the whole exterior.
[17:38] Okay. So, so you're replacing all the wood trim with
[17:42] some composite material.
[17:44] All the rest of the building was vinyl.
[17:46] But the, the porch was kept the same.
[17:50] So they're gonna
[17:53] they're gonna replace.
[17:56] The trim around underneath the windows.
[17:59] And the porch. Okay. And.
[18:02] As far as the siding goes,
[18:06] is it just
[18:08] siding repair as needed or are you reciting the entire
[18:10] place? No, we're just gonna repair a couple of spaces.
[18:14] Okay, Chris.
[18:18] Chris backed into the building the other day. And, and
[18:21] then.
[18:22] and what people have been.
[18:26] Picking ice, we kind of damaged coming. So just replace,
[18:29] it's just a couple of places where we're replacing with.
[18:34] Okay. I was just looking for clarification on that. Oh,
[18:37] that's good points.
[18:39] That
[18:41] result. Just, just one comment.
[18:44] I'm the guts. I'm just assuming that they're gonna be
[18:47] aluminum.
[18:48] I see too many people using plastic guts anymore. So
[18:52] yeah.
[18:53] Ask that you allow fly with the truck and just
[18:55] put it down machine. Just believe that I don't know
[18:57] what I talking, whatever length they need. I would think
[18:59] you would do that. Yeah.
[19:02] Do you have any other comments or questions? I think
[19:05] we can also do an amendment that if he wants
[19:06] to put more gutters around the building, we would be.
[19:09] Okay. With that, she decides to try gutters around that
[19:13] heat pump, which might make it a little better since
[19:15] there aren't none. There.
[19:16] You could also try that.
[19:19] If you felt like doing that. Oh, and the motion
[19:21] comes along. We can certainly consider that. I, I make
[19:24] a motion to allow the applicant to amend, to include
[19:26] GT.
[19:27] Gutters everywhere. all around.
[19:31] Should he so choose aluminum gutters everywhere. So if you
[19:34] so choose first and foremost, sheep, new England are.
[19:38] are we all we all as needed?
[19:41] Thank you.
[19:43] Okay. So as I understand that, I just wanna make
[19:45] sure we have a motion to accept as presented except
[19:48] for a correction to aluminum gutters versus.
[19:51] As submitted with vinyl with.
[19:54] A
[19:56] friendly amendment amendment to allow for gutters if add needed.
[20:01] Is that correct? How that is? Correct. Basically as presented.
[20:05] With aluminum gutters instead of.
[20:08] Final gutters and the approval that he may put additional
[20:12] gutters on as he sees.
[20:15] Sees fed or desires.
[20:17] Desires. I will second that yeah.
[20:20] More comment for clarity. Realistically is the.
[20:23] There is no intention of the applicant to change the
[20:26] columns at this time. Correct. We're keeping the columns. I
[20:29] like those columns.
[20:31] Socks. They're pretty good solid wood. I've kept them painting.
[20:33] Yeah. And, and I note as presented, it's not altering
[20:36] the dimensions of the trim or the appearance of the
[20:39] trim.
[20:39] Or any of the features just basically change. Think the
[20:42] trim would be the profiles.
[20:44] Profiles would may be maintained mm-hmm so I'd be
[20:46] in favor of.
[20:48] This application as the motion was presented.
[20:51] With those amendments and the condition that the columns not
[20:55] be not be replaced.
[20:58] Replaced. All right. So do we have any other discussion
[20:59] on the motion?
[21:03] All right, with that. All those in favor of the
[21:05] motion. Raise your right hand.
[21:07] All opposed. Motion passes. Seven zero. You are approved.
[21:11] Thank you. My contractor says you get in there in
[21:15] October, but hopefully he doesn't. .
[21:19] Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you.
[21:22] Hey, do we have any other new business to come
[21:25] before the commission?
[21:27] Seeing none. We have
[21:29] a conceptual review on the agenda for tonight.
[21:32] Lauren and Megan Bateman are seeking as conceptual review for
[21:35] a proposed carport at 17 noble street in the historic
[21:38] moderate fence.
[21:40] Assessor's map 10 lot, 1 37 HTC case number 30 dash
[21:45] 2026. Ms. Ramirez, do you have any info?
[21:48] On this? Yes. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, the applicant is
[21:51] seeking feedback on the proposed 24 by 24 carport.
[21:56] The proposal includes an open design with trellis in the
[21:58] back.
[22:00] Looks pretty nice.
[22:02] So they're back before us again. Fair enough. Do we
[22:04] have an applicant here to, we appreciate it.
[22:10] If you don't mind just state your name for the
[22:11] record and yep. Give us a little info on what
[22:14] sure. My name is Lauren Bateman.
[22:16] And I think some of you were here when my
[22:18] wife and I were here before, and we were looking
[22:20] at trying to do.
[22:21] A full garage. And when we got to meeting with
[22:24] the contractor, it's gonna be a lot more.
[22:27] Structurally invasive in, in other parts that we weren't
[22:30] even anticipating. So we're like, okay, how can we.
[22:34] Do something else that maybe will maintain the structures that
[22:37] are there independently. I know someone here mentioned the, the
[22:41] loss of the.
[22:42] Barn doors. So this would preserve.
[22:45] Basically the two buildings that are currently there.
[22:48] Making it kind of an independent.
[22:50] Independent of the two structures.
[22:52] Structures and trying to keep it as, as simple as
[22:55] possible as not to take away.
[22:57] From from the house.
[23:00] We tried to
[23:02] my, my preferred design is the bottom. My wife always
[23:04] likes to add little bells and whistles on it, but
[23:06] the, the, the bottom is kind of more, I think,
[23:09] structurally in line.
[23:10] With the house being the Greek revival style.
[23:14] The trellis and stuff in the back is my wife
[23:16] doing AI. We probably put a trellis that looks nice.
[23:19] But we're mainly discussing the carport.
[23:23] Using, you know, probably a shingle roof, which is the
[23:25] same as what's on the, the carriage house currently.
[23:29] But that's what we're, we're proposing as if this would
[23:32] be something that would be feasible.
[23:34] Feasible in the historic district.
[23:39] All right.
[23:40] Do we have any questions or comments Mrs. Sartori?
[23:43] Sartori, what product do you propose building this primarily out
[23:48] of.
[23:50] I guess to be determined with the, the contractor, I'm
[23:53] sure there's a good portion of it. That's gonna have
[23:55] to be wood.
[23:59] So, yeah, we didn't, we didn't get into details of
[24:01] materials. We would try to use whatever.
[24:04] Would need to be used to, to build it appropriately.
[24:08] Because your house is not vinyl, correct? The house is
[24:09] not vinyl it's clapboard. So you'd consider doing.
[24:12] Wood for the structure. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. Cuz even
[24:15] when we had proposed the, the garage part, we were
[24:17] like, yes, obviously clapboard siding wood.
[24:20] Yeah, we wouldn't be looking.
[24:22] To do. I mean, there might be some areas. For
[24:24] example, if we.
[24:26] When we finalize, if we have to put a gutter
[24:28] on the back or something, it, it might be better
[24:31] to use.
[24:32] A a white composite, so that wood doesn't rot when
[24:34] you have a gutter. But I guess those details when
[24:37] we.
[24:38] See if there's approval or not. thank you.
[24:43] Ms. Barry.
[24:45] I am with you. I like the second proposal, because
[24:48] again, this is a Greek revival. It's very clean.
[24:51] Kind of sharp lines. The Gable kind of fits into
[24:54] that.
[24:55] The embellishments. I understand why people like those, but those
[24:58] are what I call adding fake history. Two styles.
[25:01] Not that they don't look nice, but it doesn't go
[25:03] with the style of your home. I would not be
[25:06] opposed to a composite, not a, like a plastic composite.
[25:10] But more of, I can't think of the right term,
[25:12] but it actually really is very similar to wood. Mm-hmm
[25:15] on the columns only because if these are gonna
[25:17] sit.
[25:18] On a cement or rock of any kind. I'd just
[25:21] be worried about the water going up into that column.
[25:24] Cuz that's what happens with columns. That's how they rot
[25:25] out the water.
[25:26] Just kind of gets up like a straw.
[25:29] But
[25:31] what is it going to free stand like this?
[25:35] Not attaching to the barn is my biggest.
[25:38] Question within. Yeah. It's not attaching to the barn and
[25:42] I.
[25:43] There's a lot of other structural things that would need
[25:46] to happen to the barn to make that, to make
[25:50] that feasible.
[25:51] Feasible again, that's something I can talk to with the
[25:54] contractor, but I get, I think a lot of it
[25:56] has to do with even the foundation, cuz it is
[25:59] a dry.
[25:59] Foundation. So there's a lot of concern of things.
[26:03] Moving and jiggling. If we start digging and putting in
[26:07] foundations and.
[26:08] Because I think they have to go down six feet
[26:10] or so. Okay. I just remember from the original you
[26:13] wanted them to attach. I, yeah, I'm not opposed to
[26:15] them not attaching cuz again, that's.
[26:17] That's less invasive to these original structures. And again, this
[26:19] can be easily taken out right with that consideration.
[26:22] So, again, my personal opinion, I like the bottom one
[26:25] over the top one, but neither one is horrible to
[26:28] me. So mm-hmm, .
[26:32] Any other comments or questions?
[26:35] Questions, Mr. Mat, more of curiosity than anything. I mean,
[26:38] I too would, if I had to choose, it'd be
[26:40] the bottom one for all the same reasons.
[26:43] Reasons the barns in the barn doors.
[26:46] Those hold vehicles. I mean, we, you're gonna be a
[26:49] very unique way of getting in there. Yeah, no, we're
[26:52] not, we're not using the carriage house for they, they,
[26:54] they it's.
[26:55] It's not structurally sounds well, the horses have no problem
[26:57] going around those columns. Yeah. yeah. You, you can
[27:00] get the horses in there. Well, it'll be, it'll still
[27:02] be fine. The.
[27:03] Stables are still there. So, no, I we'll get 'em
[27:05] in. I, I appreciate the conceptual review.
[27:08] Nice job on the presentation for the AI rendering. It
[27:10] helps us a lot. Mm-hmm .
[27:13] So we look forward to maybe.
[27:16] Hearing your proposal soon. Okay.
[27:20] I was, I, I like this better, cuz I was
[27:22] one of the ones that was worried about the loss
[27:25] of the barn. Yeah.
[27:27] I, I like the bottom one too. I think.
[27:30] I agree that the, the kind of whoopty, whoops, are
[27:33] just not, yeah, they don't, they don't match your house.
[27:35] Sorry to your wife, but they don't. Yeah, I know.
[27:37] I'm like that.
[27:38] That's not gonna go, not to create marital discord, but
[27:40] I don't think any of us are picking that time.
[27:42] I'll blame it on you guys. No, just give. Yeah,
[27:44] cuz even like the, the, that side porch.
[27:47] That's pictured there. He was like, we'll have to take
[27:48] this down. We'll have to remove the columns and the
[27:50] moldings here. And I'm like, all right, now we're getting
[27:52] into.
[27:53] Kind of too much. So thank you for coming before
[27:56] us again. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for having me again.
[28:01] I'll say my dog will have an objection. He likes
[28:03] to, when he gets loose, run all over your yard.
[28:05] Oh, does I'm the one at night chasing him.
[28:08] Oh,
[28:08] fantastic.
[28:11] he can still run around in the front yard. He
[28:12] just won't be able to get behind that. .
[28:17] I'll just
[28:19] I'll just chime in and sure. Say that. I agree
[28:20] with everybody else on this, that certainly the bottom one
[28:23] end and the fact that it's not invasive to the
[28:25] other building. So.
[28:27] You know, not that I wasn't happy with the first
[28:29] proposal, but I understand.
[28:32] Sometimes other factors come in and change plans. So.
[28:35] With that, I guess. Do you have any other questions
[28:37] or have we given you enough insight? No, no. At
[28:40] this stage, I'll, I'll meet with my contractor to say,
[28:43] Hey,
[28:44] yes, we can move forward on getting some officials designs
[28:46] to present. All right. Yeah. Any other last comments by
[28:49] the board? No, I haven't curiosity question.
[28:52] Unrelated really to the project and stretching my memory.
[28:55] Do you have a well in your basement?
[28:58] Do I have a, a, well there, the, well is.
[29:01] Outside outside. So it might be your neighbor's house that
[29:03] I remember. Okay. Because a, well, in the basement, one
[29:05] of those two.
[29:06] Okay. Very unique and not unusual though. Yeah.
[29:10] Mr win. Yeah, I just have.
[29:12] Sure. Just one comment. So just when you, I'm sure
[29:16] you would do this anyway, but just please be sure
[29:18] that when you do come back that you have a.
[29:22] A measured yes. Plan that shows the relationship of the
[29:25] carport to the other two buildings. Yep, absolutely. I'm looking
[29:28] at, I'm trying to, I.
[29:29] I'm looking at this, you know, tiny map. Yeah. But
[29:31] I'm trying to like place it, but it doesn't really
[29:33] matter today. You know, the concept is great and.
[29:36] I just, you know, make we'll just need a little
[29:38] more. Yeah. Because depending on where the footings go, maybe
[29:41] it's gonna be a 23 by 23 or so.
[29:45] Material choices on that application would be helpful as well.
[29:48] Absolutely. Yeah. Yep.
[29:50] All right with that. I thank you again for coming
[29:52] back in and fantastic. Wish your luck on your project.
[29:54] Thank you so much. Thank you.
[30:00] All right.
[30:07] Do we have any other conceptual reviews?
[30:10] Reviews tonight.
[30:14] So
[30:15] I'd just like to mention, I spoke to this gentleman.
[30:18] That is sitting in the audience. I, I know you
[30:20] had left and missed the no, I just public comments.
[30:25] No. Okay. Twice.
[30:26] So, Hey, my name's Sean poor. I was here back
[30:31] in December.
[30:32] Regarding 18.
[30:34] Grand street. We came before the board to build a
[30:36] new house for my son.
[30:38] So that was the night that.
[30:41] They were in there for the condo complex. It ran
[30:43] really late.
[30:44] It kind of limited on time. We were hell late
[30:46] at night.
[30:48] I was told to come back.
[30:50] When we were ready to do the railings for the
[30:52] decks.
[30:53] Decks and address the garage that was built like the
[30:55] seventies.
[30:57] Some people thought it was a carriage house from like
[30:59] the 18 hundreds. Some people thought it was a garage,
[31:02] which we, you know, figured out it was built way.
[31:05] After it's not historical. So now I'm at the point
[31:08] where I wanted to put railings on. I filled out
[31:11] a thing with Anna gave her all the.
[31:13] Information to be on the dock. If it's a night.
[31:16] She didn't realize there was an open thing from December.
[31:19] And didn't put it in because there wasn't a set
[31:22] of the prints on file, but they are all on
[31:24] file downstairs.
[31:26] Downstairs. And she was like, I'm sorry.
[31:28] I made a mistake. So I just came tonight because.
[31:32] I know that it's not scheduled. And I spoke with
[31:34] Richard earlier and he said that you can't make a
[31:37] decision on nothing.
[31:38] But also he has nowhere way to live after next
[31:41] month for two months. So.
[31:43] I'm kind of caught in the spot where you can't
[31:45] get an Hartford street permit till the decks are on
[31:47] the house.
[31:48] And I also have a pallet of vinyl on the
[31:50] front yard that goes to the garage to finish at
[31:53] the wrap. It like the house.
[31:55] And I'm just trying to look for a solution of.
[31:58] What the best thing would do if I have to
[32:00] come back next month.
[32:01] So be it, it's just, he's ready to move in.
[32:04] Probably in three weeks, it'll be done.
[32:07] And I can't do the decks without any approval.
[32:10] So this is some ongoing from.
[32:13] Harry filled out the application addressed all this last December.
[32:18] And, you know, I came back.
[32:20] Seven eight months later, not the next month later, which
[32:23] I probably should have.
[32:24] But I was told, you know, come back when you're
[32:26] ready to do it, we'll deal with it then. So
[32:29] I didn't see a big importance.
[32:33] I believe Anna gave a deadline to submit some additional
[32:36] information and that never got submitted so that wasn't put.
[32:39] On this, that's why this wasn't put on the agenda,
[32:41] correct? Because we didn't have the information for the board
[32:44] and we had to send out the packets. So.
[32:47] I feel a little uncomfortable reviewing an application without.
[32:52] Renderings. And if I would've known that you would've come,
[32:54] I could've maybe given some information to the board, but
[32:57] I don't have any additional information. No, I understand. I'm
[33:00] not, I.
[33:00] I'm not saying it's her fault.
[33:04] There is a full set of drawings down there.
[33:06] And I did bring a copy of one of the
[33:08] drawings that she has down on file.
[33:10] That shows the deck from back in last December.
[33:14] The dimensions and everything in this booklets, in there with
[33:16] the brochure of the different types of railings.
[33:19] Railings. It just never got to the meeting at that
[33:21] time. Okay. So all that is in there. We paid
[33:23] for another application for tonight.
[33:26] And she denied it because I didn't have the, the
[33:28] drawings in that.
[33:30] Which I looked at 'em yesterday in our folder, they
[33:32] are in there.
[33:33] So that was just miscommunication.
[33:36] She was thinking that my son was looking to build
[33:38] a new structure.
[33:40] She didn't know that it was something that was existing.
[33:42] So it's just miscommunication. I'm not blaming no one. I
[33:45] said that to Richard tonight. She's a nice girl.
[33:48] They're great downstairs. You guys are great up here. I'm
[33:51] not here to argue with anyone. I just want to
[33:53] try to, I just figured I'd come and speak. He
[33:56] said.
[33:56] You should probably just say now, if I could come
[33:58] back next month and submit the drawings again, which he
[34:01] has now.
[34:03] And she has the stuff and she can put it
[34:04] in.
[34:05] Then I'll come back next month and it is what
[34:06] it is. I just.
[34:08] Was trying to, you know, I took.
[34:10] I just brought a ton of photos and stuff. Just
[34:12] if you wanted to keep 'em also yep. Of so
[34:15] conceptual.
[34:17] Review and correct me if I'm I'm wrong.
[34:20] Is for, to review.
[34:23] Drawings, but not to give approval. So I don't appreciate
[34:27] this kind of guidance going out to applicants and putting
[34:30] staff in a weird position tonight.
[34:31] No. And that, that was not the intent with this,
[34:34] this.
[34:35] It was just, he brought this up to me beforehand.
[34:39] Kind of at a loss, not knowing what to do.
[34:42] I only told him that we could maybe discuss if
[34:45] he was looking for some guidance on the appearance. Maybe
[34:47] we could discuss it under conception review, but we could
[34:49] not.
[34:50] Make any decisions. So I was not trying to mislead
[34:52] him in that way.
[34:55] So I, I guess, well, that's my fault too, cuz
[34:56] he showed up last night to our.
[34:59] We had a meeting last night and, and said, I'm
[35:03] here, here for the committee meeting. And I said, you,
[35:04] you are on the wrong night buddy, but you can
[35:06] try and come back tomorrow.
[35:07] Because we, we don't, we, we were wholly different committee.
[35:11] We were river walk last night. I apologize. I don't
[35:13] mean to bodge you in and expect any.
[35:16] Special thing or nothing like that. I just.
[35:18] Came last night, I hung around there from five in
[35:20] the morning, till seven at night. I live an hour
[35:22] and a half away. Yeah. And I'm here again tonight,
[35:24] cuz it's I was told to come back.
[35:27] You know, in the it's, it's just hard for staff
[35:29] to give a path forward. And yeah, if the board
[35:32] is giving out different ideas on paths forward, we just.
[35:35] Need to know this because we're the ones that have
[35:37] to review the applications and make sure that these get
[35:39] built to how they're say that they're approved. So this
[35:43] is where problem.
[35:43] Problems happen. Yep. And that's why I'm bringing this up
[35:45] tonight right now in front of the boy. So no,
[35:47] and, and I, I recall that he was gonna need
[35:50] to come back for this stuff and just obviously didn.
[35:52] Didn't happen in a timely fashion. Now, here we are
[35:53] under the gun for him trying to finish this.
[35:56] So not trying to mislead anybody. Just.
[36:00] I tried to advise him the best I could. So
[36:03] I guess.
[36:04] Just a quick question. If you don't mind.
[36:07] The needs an occupancy permit.
[36:10] Could he put up a set of temporary stairs.
[36:13] Stairs just to get in and out to get an
[36:15] occupancy permit, or is he really bound by this.
[36:19] Steps and decks being built.
[36:23] I don't know how far along he is. I guess
[36:25] he's saying he's three weeks out. I did go out
[36:28] on the site last week. It looks really nice.
[36:30] It's a very nice project. I was really impressed with
[36:33] the infill.
[36:34] Project on the foundation.
[36:37] I guess we would need to work with Jeff on
[36:39] that.
[36:40] Okay. Fair enough.
[36:43] Ms. Barry. I believe that our board, once we have
[36:46] a complete application, the city says we have a complete
[36:49] application. This board has done.
[36:51] Emergency meetings. I believe that is up to the chair
[36:54] and well as city staff, where that could be a
[36:57] course of action taken after this.
[36:59] Meeting and then a different meeting can be scheduled before
[37:01] next months.
[37:03] But again, I believe
[37:05] stuff would have to be confirmed that everything is complete
[37:07] before. That could be all right considered. And I would
[37:10] suggest that the chair and city staff get together to
[37:13] consider.
[37:14] That fair enough, Mr. Mat, and just a question for
[37:17] staff. Is this an application that was already once received?
[37:21] And the applicant was asked to return.
[37:24] Yes. Yes. There was an application that was submitted, but
[37:27] we needed additional.
[37:29] Information in order to put this on the agenda. So
[37:31] it was never an approved application.
[37:33] To come to force yet.
[37:36] Well, well already can't be heared under old business is
[37:39] my call. So the already approved. Yeah, the, the building
[37:42] itself was approved several.
[37:44] Months ago. I wanna say springtime if I recall. Correct.
[37:46] And this was part of the building, but it just,
[37:48] we ran out of time that night. So it never
[37:51] got to it's an amendment. Someone said.
[37:52] Come back from the garage in the deck. Exactly. So
[37:54] we had approved the building, but we hadn't.
[37:57] Hadn't, they didn't have plans for the steps and stairs
[37:59] at the time, or we didn't get to discussing it.
[38:01] This didn't get to it. And we pushed it. Got
[38:03] pushed off for whatever reason.
[38:05] I mean that's which, listen, I'm not frustrated. I understand
[38:09] there's a procedure yet everything. So to throw that out
[38:11] there, then if, if the.
[38:15] I won't use the word emergency. It's not quite to
[38:17] that level.
[38:18] However, if the need is to receive a certificate of
[38:20] occupancy.
[38:22] To have safe and co compliant.
[38:25] Entrance versus
[38:28] historic district approval of that design of that entrance.
[38:32] I would think that conversations with the code enforcement.
[38:36] Could allow a temporary
[38:39] entrance to be allowed for certificate of occupancy, even on
[38:43] a temporary basis.
[38:45] And then when you have all of your.
[38:48] Pieces of your puzzle for your final.
[38:51] Design that would be reviewed. And then.
[38:54] The temporary stairs removed and the design installed. All right.
[38:58] And that, that, but that's a conversation to be had.
[39:02] With Coco code officer.
[39:04] And, and city staff, but I don't know if this
[39:08] board would be opposed to having a temporary set of
[39:11] stairs.
[39:12] Stairs, not that we would review such a thing.
[39:15] Saying, knowing that it's not there forever.
[39:17] But throwing that out there for conversation.
[39:21] Fair enough. I just
[39:23] because he was here. I wanted him at least just
[39:26] approach on the public comment and wasn't trying to.
[39:30] Yeah, and I'm fine if you, if he wants to
[39:31] present and go over what he is thinking.
[39:34] So it's smoother for the next meeting. That's fine. But
[39:36] I, as Steph now of next meeting. Yeah. If, if
[39:39] you guys wanna talk about it, that I'm fine with
[39:41] that, but I'm.
[39:42] I'm. I am not okay with approving anything tonight or
[39:45] anything. Mom and I wasn't expecting that when I spoke
[39:47] with Richard in the, in the hallway earlier.
[39:51] So basically, I, I don't know if I give these
[39:53] to you or you could pass 'em around.
[39:56] That's the existing plan of the 12 by 12 deck.
[39:59] That was on the drawing. That's on the original file
[40:01] from west December.
[40:03] These are pictures of all houses in the neighborhood and
[40:06] they're ones in the park.
[40:08] Looking to do the same similar thing.
[40:10] What I mean swats underneath. So I'm just gonna pass
[40:13] these down. So I'm making see 'em real quick. And
[40:15] then.
[40:16] There's also a brochure that I, after the.
[40:20] And I gotta have you by the microphone though. I'm
[40:21] sorry.
[40:23] IED December for you.
[40:25] The product we're gonna use those type of railings with
[40:27] the black metal slats, with the vinyl and the track
[40:30] stack.
[40:31] Stacking and the AZA. So box it in.
[40:40] And the comment I
[40:42] just wanna say, I go by there three times a
[40:43] day and I think he's done a fantastic job and
[40:46] I have no doubt that the tech will be.
[40:49] Finished the same way. It is a smaller deck in
[40:52] the rear of the building.
[40:54] But I understand the
[40:57] part about being
[41:00] approved on time.
[41:02] I don't know if there's any way we could have
[41:03] a meeting before.
[41:05] We've done that before.
[41:07] We haven't done that before and probably only twice in
[41:10] my tenure here. And I've been here.
[41:12] Not quite as long as you George.
[41:15] On the close. I think that.
[41:17] When the applicant can pull together a complete packet of
[41:20] what we review.
[41:22] And submit it to staff.
[41:25] On a timely manner.
[41:27] We should hear it at the next meeting, but in
[41:29] the interim.
[41:30] If he is allowed by the code enforcement.
[41:34] To provide code compliant, safe entry.
[41:37] To in order to get the co.
[41:39] If that's the dilemma, then he's got the co and
[41:42] he's in the place. And then we're looking at the
[41:44] modifications.
[41:46] For the landing and the railings in a normal schedule,
[41:48] that's all.
[41:52] Okay, I'm fine with that. And I appreciate that. I'm
[41:54] just trying to get 'em in the, I understand. That's
[41:56] why I'm offering an opportunity to.
[41:58] To build something to get you in, but not what,
[42:01] when you eventually submit a package, do you like, I
[42:04] mean, what I just handed in what you.
[42:07] You'll be able to see if they pass it around.
[42:09] Does not. I mean, what would you like me to
[42:11] do for a package? I basically have what I'm gonna
[42:14] be using.
[42:15] Similarities of the neighborhood houses.
[42:19] You know what I'm gonna do. I mean, staff can
[42:20] work with you on that. All I can do is
[42:22] basically bring in a piece of each product that I'm
[42:24] using and staff will guide you of what would.
[42:27] Be required. Okay. Yep. What meaning downstairs? Yes.
[42:30] Okay. And my initial thought would be a full plan
[42:33] showing how the dimensions of the data, like I just
[42:36] like that's in there. Exactly. Exactly. Yep.
[42:39] But also, you know, showing what they'll look like if
[42:41] there's any.
[42:42] Skirting to the deck. You know's all those details. That's
[42:45] what I'm gonna replicate. What's in there with the, with
[42:48] the slats, like on heavy house in the neighborhood.
[42:51] I don't like Gladys.
[42:52] Gladys, you know, putting stone down or something like that,
[42:55] or the, even the like,
[42:57] last meeting we were here. You spoke.
[43:00] About the stones, a big issue with the stones on
[43:02] the retaining wall, the new.
[43:05] New development, the apartment complex. That was the meeting before
[43:08] us, about cows of variations.
[43:11] So to put down, I went to Sheik concrete.
[43:14] To get a set of steps made to, to match,
[43:16] to look like that. A brick of granite. They're not
[43:18] gonna match the house and look.
[43:20] Like at the era of the foundation, they're also.
[43:24] Horrible to maintain the railings rod out that you can't
[43:27] put salt over anything on 'em you're tracking in sand.
[43:30] So I just with the house was.
[43:32] You know, new construction. I was looking to kind of
[43:34] keep it the same scenario, the same exact trim maintenance
[43:38] free, but you know,
[43:40] all trimmed out with the swats like that and stuff.
[43:42] I mean,
[43:43] I can't have an architect. Draw it up. It's not
[43:45] gonna be.
[43:46] You know, it's not gonna be a remand of it,
[43:48] but it'll be a drawing of something. Yeah. We just,
[43:50] that shows the side just what I provided pitches of,
[43:52] of the neighborhood doses.
[43:54] And some dimensions, little more detail.
[43:58] Just basic plans, you know, doesn't have to be.
[44:02] Yep. No took code staff can certainly make sure you
[44:04] have the appropriate stuff. Yep, absolutely. So.
[44:09] I guess, is there any.
[44:11] More discussion questions. No.
[44:14] Tried to help as much as we could. What's that?
[44:17] Yeah. I mean,
[44:18] they probably won't keep the photos off. I'll put 'em
[44:21] in the package, but.
[44:24] All right. So I, I guess my best advice is
[44:27] get in touch with city staff this week, if you
[44:29] can, that way. Yeah. Everything can get done in time
[44:31] for.
[44:32] The next meeting and hopefully get this resolved as quickly
[44:34] as possible. Yeah. Like I said, I think it was
[44:36] more amiss. I did, like you brought up in the
[44:39] beginning. I did.
[44:40] Email her, all the stuff that I presented tonight.
[44:44] And you know, said there's a file on thing. It
[44:46] just.
[44:47] I don't think she thought it was something existing. I
[44:49] thought she, where he paid for a new permit.
[44:52] I think she thought it was something completely new.
[44:54] And I would encourage you to reach out to the
[44:57] building officials and ask what would be the minimum requirements.
[45:01] For an entry, so you can get the co.
[45:05] But the design later would come before us. That'd be
[45:07] my suggestion, but I want to hear if the board
[45:10] would be a minimal.
[45:12] To allowing that temporary entrance. I know as far as
[45:15] like,
[45:16] for code, usually in awkward spirit from just a building
[45:19] experience and over the years,
[45:21] he does have an egress. That's a walkout basement. So
[45:23] that's one, one egress that he could walk in and
[45:26] out of, if I could do temp stairs out in
[45:28] the front and.
[45:29] They'd go without the code. That's fine. I don't care
[45:32] about the deck out back. I can frame it and
[45:34] just leave a beer until we come back to the
[45:36] next meeting.
[45:37] I'll just put a board across the door and no
[45:39] one can fall out of it. You're you have a
[45:40] walkout basement currently? What size is that? Walkout door? It's
[45:43] up full 36, 80.
[45:45] Inch door.
[45:50] Level so that wouldn't meet the egress requirements. Yeah. The
[45:53] front and the back would, yeah. Yeah. A fire.
[45:56] Safety and whatever, not. So, I mean, you know, he'll
[45:58] have to go down extra flight of staff, so then
[46:00] the need to have a temporary.
[46:03] Stare the stairs.
[46:05] Stairs. The entrance is moot. Doesn't need to be, well,
[46:08] you need one out front. You're gonna need to means
[46:11] egress. You have the windows.
[46:13] Yeah, they, I, I've never gotten Incy with just one
[46:17] set of stairs. Usually they want two doors, but if
[46:19] they're allow it, then I'm good with that too.
[46:21] So I'll defer to the building official. All right.
[46:25] I'll talk to him tomorrow, down there and see what
[46:27] he says.
[46:28] But to answer your question, Tim, on my side, I
[46:30] would not be opposed to a temporary stare if needed
[46:33] for a ocus dependency. But again,
[46:36] I that's up to code enforcement. Mm-hmm so, but
[46:39] for this board, because you would be coming back, I
[46:42] would not be opposed to a temporary.
[46:44] Solution.
[46:46] And unfortunately, we can't really approve one either because it's
[46:49] not an item on the agenda. So.
[46:51] You know, I, I think your best bet is to
[46:53] chat with city staff and, yep. I'm sure they can.
[46:56] No, I'll talk, expedite a way to get this done.
[46:58] Yeah.
[46:59] I just, yeah. And I thought, you know, like, I,
[47:02] I guess.
[47:03] I don't know. Yeah. I guess I should've went in
[47:05] there and talked to Anna before he filled it. Cuz
[47:07] she made him fill out a whole new thing. So
[47:09] she just was under the impression it was a whole.
[47:11] New application where it was already all in the file
[47:15] cabinet, you know? So like you said, simple miscommunication. Yeah.
[47:18] It just happened. So, and I mean,
[47:20] I'm just was in panic mode. When I came last
[47:22] night.
[47:23] Someone said, oh, the meeting's tonight. So I'm like, I'll
[47:25] just randomly show up and at least maybe try to
[47:27] see. And then she was out at the doorway. She
[47:29] was like, no, it's tomorrow night. I'm like, oh, come
[47:31] back.
[47:31] So, but I appreciate all your time.
[47:34] You want to go home early this tonight? So I'll
[47:36] get going.
[47:37] And so you not hit on nine and I just
[47:39] wanted your thoughts on some of the pitches and stuff
[47:41] too. So if anyone had any comments, I'll have one
[47:44] last comment.
[47:45] Our question. Yeah, the
[47:48] door on shown on the Portico of the yep. To.
[47:52] It bottom floor. How high would you estimate that to
[47:54] be off of grade? I believe it's, I think it's
[47:57] four steps in a platform. So I'm gonna say 28
[48:00] to.
[48:01] You're doing a seven inch rise. It's probably 28 inches,
[48:04] I think, to the bottom of the door. 28. Would
[48:07] you say it's less than 30?
[48:10] No, it's, it's probably with the platform. It'd be probably
[48:13] right around 30. The reason why I'm asking, cuz if
[48:15] it's 30 or under, yeah, you don't need.
[48:17] That counts a door. Anything? Yeah, it counts as an
[48:19] egress as well. Oh, it does. Okay. All right.
[48:23] So, no, it's definitely to the door. It's more than
[48:25] 30. I think it's, I think it's four steps plus
[48:28] the platform and the step to the door. So you'd
[48:30] be talking.
[48:31] You know, almost 42 inches. Yeah. Yeah.
[48:34] So it's up a little high.
[48:37] So, all right. Well,
[48:39] sounds like, we'll see you next month. Yeah. You don't
[48:41] need that stuff. What do you want? Because I'm just
[48:44] gonna give her coffee so right.
[48:47] Thank you have a good evening. Thanks for your time.
[48:49] Have a good night. You're welcome.
[48:53] So moving on to workshop business, do we have any
[48:56] workshop business?
[48:59] Seeing none communications and miscellaneous.
[49:02] I'm just gonna, I know we talked about scheduling a
[49:06] workshop for another PLA plaque round, but I wasn't sure.
[49:11] When we were thinking we were going to schedule that,
[49:13] or if we wanna give more time to keep I
[49:15] thoughts on that, I thought we'd supposed to come.
[49:18] Up with ideas on a building to present it to.
[49:22] Not actually schedule a workshop yet, but.
[49:26] I I've gotta building in mind myself, but I don't
[49:29] know if other people do.
[49:31] Okay. I just didn't think we would wanna like,
[49:33] brainstorm what to, what? Not to during an actual fair
[49:36] enough meeting. Yep. So we, we could schedule, do we
[49:39] wanna schedule a workshop maybe?
[49:42] Before the next meeting then, or.
[49:45] How, I guess, how would you.
[49:47] Perceive this working.
[49:52] I don't know if anybody else has given it any
[49:54] thoughts, so people might need more time.
[49:57] Maybe we could try to schedule something in November.
[50:02] Fair enough. I don't know how others are feeling. Oh,
[50:04] that gives us a couple months to give us some
[50:06] consideration and.
[50:08] We'll try to keep that in plan in a plan
[50:11] for November.
[50:14] Any other communications of miscellaneous.
[50:17] Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I have something.
[50:20] We are partner partnering with New Hampshire preservation Alliance this Friday.
[50:25] We're having a workshop here at city hall. There's a
[50:27] few members of the board that are gonna be attending.
[50:31] It's at, it starts at 10 and it's just a.
[50:34] A round table to meet with other.
[50:38] Historic district commissions and historic preservation folks to Des discuss
[50:43] opportunities.
[50:45] And ideas and success stories and connect.
[50:48] About historic preservations, 10:00 AM in city hall.
[50:53] So we're looking forward to that event.
[50:56] 10:00 AM in this room. Yep.
[50:58] I think there's about 25 people signed up, so that'll
[51:03] be a pretty good attendance.
[51:08] Anything else?
[51:10] Ms. Perry. I don't know if the whole board got
[51:12] it, but we were also invited to a training from.
[51:16] I'm gonna forget the town name. Thank you, Bedford.
[51:19] I don't know if anybody was able to attend their
[51:21] first one, cuz it was during the day, but there's
[51:23] another one that is after hours.
[51:26] At 6:00 PM on October 6th.
[51:29] That hopefully we can, some of our board can join,
[51:33] cuz I believe it was about how they rewrote their
[51:35] ordinances and what they ran into.
[51:38] And different things of that sort. So I think that
[51:39] would be very.
[51:40] Good. I think that's a Tuesday. It is. Yep. Yes.
[51:48] Anything else?
[51:50] Any emotions, motion to adjourn.
[51:53] Adjourn second, all those in favor of adjournment, raise your
[51:56] right hand.
[51:57] Opposed. We are adjourned. Thank you.