[0:51] This meeting's called to order in [0:52] accordance with the open public meetings [0:54] law in accordance with chapter 231 of [0:56] the public laws of 1975. [0:58] Adequate notice of this meeting has been [1:00] provided. This meeting of August 3rd, [1:02] 2026 was provided to the Courier News [1:05] and Star-Ledger and placed on the [1:07] bureau's website. Also placed on the [1:10] bulletin board of Borough Hall. A copy [1:12] of this notice is available to the [1:13] public and a copy of the statement shall [1:15] be included in the minutes of this [1:16] meeting. [1:18] Mayor Brian Gallagher. [1:19] >> Here. [1:20] >> Council members, Teresa Bonner is [1:22] excused this evening. Andrew Conti. [1:24] >> Here. [1:24] >> Glenn Dene. [1:25] >> Here. [1:26] >> Randy Pitts. [1:26] >> Here. [1:27] >> Gina Strabic. [1:28] >> Here. [1:28] >> Roger Vern. [1:29] >> Here. [1:30] >> Please stand for the salute to the flag. [1:34] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the [1:36] United States of America and to the [1:39] republic for which it stands, one nation [1:42] under God, indivisible, with liberty and [1:45] justice for all. [1:53] » Okay, we have no uh departmental reports [1:55] or notices. [1:56] Uh however, we do have a These are [1:59] always good nights. We have resolution [2:01] number 260803-233 [2:05] approving the hiring of Eric A. Melendez [2:07] as police officer effective August 4th, [2:10] 2026. [2:12] Do we have a motion? [2:13] >> So moved. [2:14] >> Second. [2:14] >> Discussion. Roll call, please. [2:16] >> Council members, Andrew Cotti. [2:18] >> Yes. [2:18] >> Glenn Denney. [2:19] >> Yes. [2:20] >> Randy Pitts. [2:21] >> Yes. [2:21] >> Gina Slavik. [2:22] >> Yes. [2:22] >> Roger Berm. [2:23] >> Yes. [2:24] >> All right. [2:25] Uh, Mr. Melendez, [2:27] come up come on down. [2:43] Oh, you know what? You know what? If [2:45] mom's here, we're going to hold If she's [2:47] not here, we're going to hold off a few [2:48] minutes. Absolutely. [2:50] Mom's got to be here. [2:52] All right. So, we're going to defer [2:53] that. That's All right. Not a problem. [2:55] at all. [2:57] Yeah. [2:58] >> [laughter] [3:01] » No, for now. [3:04] Mom holds the gavel. That's [3:08] All right. Let's go into committee [3:09] reports then, Andrew. [3:11] >> Uh, historic advisory committee hasn't [3:12] met yet this month, but we look forward [3:14] to discussing [3:16] few items at the end of the month and [3:18] specifically uh, potential for our [3:21] artifacts and museum items to be more on [3:25] display at [3:27] in the town and also continue mapping [3:28] out the historic places [clears throat] [3:30] in town and putting them on our map that [3:32] we actually have up. So, if anybody's [3:33] interested in looking at historic sites [3:35] in town, you can check out the historic [3:37] advisory commission's website. We have a map, a Google Map that'll take [3:41] you everywhere you want to go. [3:42] >> Great. Thank you. Gina. [3:44] >> Uh, September 27th, the Board of Health [3:46] will be at the farmers market doing some [3:49] Board of Health stuff. So, um, that was [3:51] a great partnership and a great [3:52] opportunity for the Board of Health to [3:54] work with the community. Uh, the rescue [3:55] squad continues their good work. I do [3:57] not have a full report, um, but know [3:59] that they are there for you. [4:01] >> All right. Uh, Glenn. [4:02] >> All right. Thank you. Uh, the fire [4:04] department responded to 74 service calls [4:07] in the month of July, so they've [4:08] continued their busy streak for this [4:10] year. [4:10] And then the Environmental Commission [4:12] met on July 14th. [4:14] Uh, two new pet waste stations were [4:17] installed along the Greenway, and that [4:19] was with a partnership with the New [4:20] Jersey Water Supply Authority and their [4:21] water ambassadors program, and a little [4:23] bit of help from our DPW, so we thank [4:25] them. [4:26] On September 9th, a member of our green [4:28] team, David Voron, will host a talk on [4:30] how to fight high energy bills. [4:33] And then finally, uh, [4:35] volunteering days are coming really [4:37] soon. There's a number of them, so you [4:39] can check out some details on our social [4:41] media or website. For but we will be [4:43] continuing our work on the Peters Brook [4:45] habitat restoration project. Uh, the [4:48] dates right now are August 22nd, [4:50] September 16th, September 27th, and [4:53] October 1st. So, hopefully you can come [4:55] out during one of those days uh, to help [4:57] us out with that. There will be more [4:58] details and sign-ups available. Um, [5:01] the Environmental Commission will see [5:02] you at National Night Out tomorrow uh, [5:05] with some energy saving tips and more at [5:06] the tent, so come on out and see them [5:08] and all the other great community groups [5:09] that'll be there. And then uh, also you [5:11] can come out on next Tuesday on uh, the [5:14] 11th of August for the uh, monthly [5:18] Environmental Commission meeting at 7:00 [5:19] right here. [5:20] >> Okay, great. [5:21] >> Busy, busy. [5:22] >> Excellent. Thank you. [5:23] >> Thanks. [5:23] >> Ready. [5:24] >> He stole my thunder. [5:26] >> [laughter] [5:26] >> There's plenty to say. There's plenty of [5:28] groups. [5:31] >> Tomorrow is National Night Out day. [5:33] Come out and meet [5:35] our entire force, [5:37] fire department, rescue squad. [5:39] Um, this year's event features live [5:41] performances by Elite Dance Center, [5:43] School of Rock, Black Belt World, plus a [5:46] dunk tank. [5:48] Maybe the mayor. [5:50] >> That could be. [laughter] It may be on [5:51] the agenda. [5:55] » Provided by Somerville Recreation. Free [5:57] hot dogs, drinks, and snacks will be [5:59] provided by the community partners. [6:01] Meet your neighbors, connect with our [6:03] local police officers, [6:05] our [6:06] beautiful and great police officers. We [6:08] even have the chief here tonight. Want [6:10] to give him a shout out. [6:11] He's my guy. [6:12] >> [laughter] [6:14] >> We hope to see you there tomorrow. [6:16] That's all I have. [6:17] >> All right, great. Thank you. Roger. Uh [6:19] from recreation, the Somerville YMCA [6:22] will be offering free classes to [6:23] Somerville residents at Michael Lep Pool [6:26] Park, which is the one on Park Avenue, [6:28] on August 10th, 12th, and 14th. The [6:31] program is designed to help young [6:33] children become more comfortable and [6:35] confident in and around the water while [6:37] learning essential water safety skills [6:39] in a fun and supportive environment. [6:42] There are two sessions for young [6:43] children. Um they will be run at uh [6:46] 11:00 to 11:30, which is going to be [6:48] safety around the water. It's a [6:49] parent-and-me class for preschool-aged [6:52] children ages 3 to 5. And then from [6:55] 11:30 to 12:00 on those days, it'll be [6:57] safety around the water, uh children [6:59] only, uh ages 5 years old, I guess and [7:02] up. So, space is limited. Uh please [7:04] register now on the Community Pass uh [7:06] website under summer programs. And [7:08] that's what I have. [7:09] >> Okay. [7:10] All right, we're going to jump and do [7:11] ordinances for public hearing and [7:13] adoption. Ordinance number number 2807 [7:17] is a bond ordinance providing an [7:18] appropriation of $850,000 for the design [7:22] and resurfacing of South Middle Street [7:24] and Washington Place foreign by the [7:25] Borough of Somerville in the County of [7:27] Somerset. [7:28] >> owners? Like, what prompted this? [7:31] >> Uh what hap- What prompted this is it's [7:34] the time is So, as you know, there is a [7:37] cannabis, well, maybe you don't know, [7:38] there's a cannabis location further um [7:41] west on Route 22, or actually 202 206, [7:46] we're we're making it so the cannabis [7:49] facility that's located on 22 could [7:52] compete hour-wise with that. So, it [7:54] matches their time. [7:56] Only it actually matches their time only [7:59] Friday Saturday. They may be be [8:01] appearing in the future to match their [8:03] time on Sunday, but at this point this [8:04] is a this is just [8:07] basically Monday Monday through Saturday [8:09] the change. [8:11] >> So, they requested it. [8:12] >> Uh yes, it it it came about. As you [8:15] know, we do get [8:17] transfer tax from that, so the revenue [8:19] if they open early obviously the [8:21] anticipation is the revenue would be [8:24] um better during those morning hours. [8:31] » Okay. Roll call. [8:32] Council members, Andrew Conti. [8:34] >> Yes. [8:35] >> Glenn Zaney. [8:35] >> Yes. [8:36] >> Randy Pitts. [8:37] >> Yes. [8:37] >> Gina Stravic. [8:38] >> Yes. [8:38] >> Roger Vern. [8:38] >> Yes. [8:39] >> All right. [8:41] Is mom here? [8:42] Is she? [8:43] >> Yes. [8:44] >> All right. [8:45] >> [laughter] [8:47] >> All right, let's let's go back to item [8:50] number six, which is the oath of office [8:53] for police officer Eric A. Melendez. [8:56] Eric, if you come forward. [9:04] That's your cue, mom. [9:12] » You put your left hand on the Bible. [9:14] And you're going to raise your right [9:15] hand and repeat after me. [9:18] I state your name. [9:19] >> I, Eric Melendez, [9:21] >> do solemnly swear [9:23] >> that I will support the Constitution of [9:25] the United States. [9:26] >> that I will support the Constitution of [9:27] the United States. [9:28] >> and the state of New Jersey. [9:30] >> that I will bear true faith and [9:32] allegiance to the same. [9:33] >> that I will bear true faith and [9:35] allegiance to the same. [9:36] >> and to the governments established in [9:37] the United States and in this state. [9:39] >> And to the governments established in [9:40] the United States and in this state. [9:42] >> Under the authority of the people. [9:45] >> That I will faithfully [9:47] >> impartially [9:49] >> and justly perform [9:51] >> all the duties of police officer [9:54] >> for the Borough of Somerville [9:57] >> according to the best of my ability. [10:01] >> So help me God. [10:02] >> Congratulations. [10:03] >> Thank you, sir. [10:04] >> [applause] [10:40] » Chief. [10:40] >> All right, so [10:42] Officer Melendez is already You can You [10:44] can step back over here, okay. [10:46] He's already a police officer. So we had [10:49] an opening and we've had an opening for [10:51] a while due to retirement of someone, so [10:53] we're filling a spot. [10:54] And we had a uh process where people [10:58] apply and we interviewed several trained [11:01] police officers. [11:03] He came out number one on our process [11:05] and after a thorough background he um [11:09] ready to go. But having police [11:11] experience is a giant benefit to us here [11:14] in town. [11:15] Um and he's got a good support group. [11:17] He'll be hooked with a training officer [11:19] for a while, about 3 months I guess, 2 3 [11:21] months. [11:21] So he can learn how we do things our way [11:23] here and uh [11:25] that's it, he's ready to go. And [11:27] we were told that he has a very uh [11:29] tight, close family and that's obvious [11:31] by the amount of people that are here. [11:33] Uh do want to thank you guys, thank the [11:35] council for doing this and working with [11:37] us. We always have a good working [11:38] relationship and we have to keep that [11:40] going too. But, thank you guys. [11:42] >> Chief, thank you. [11:42] >> Thank you, Chief. [11:44] >> So, just a just a couple of comments. Um [11:46] I always love these days. Um I think [11:48] it's wonderful. [11:50] Um it's a another officer joining the [11:52] ranks of our community. And when you [11:54] look around you and you see this [11:57] uh these lines of blue, um these are the [12:00] folks that the men and women who keep [12:02] our community what it is. We live in a [12:04] very special community. We have very [12:06] engaged citizens. Um and uh and and it's [12:10] wonderful. So, remember this day cuz [12:13] it's a good day, it's a happy day. [12:15] They're not all good and happy, uh but [12:17] think back to you know, this day when [12:19] you're having that tough day. And uh [12:22] make sure you wave [12:25] to the citizens [12:27] and go after the bad guys with a [12:28] vengeance. [12:29] All right? So, thank you and [12:31] congratulations. Thank you. [12:33] Uh Chief, I know you've got a couple of [12:34] other things you uh you'd like to do. [12:36] >> Yeah, we have some awards we'd like to [12:37] give out to some of the folks here and [12:39] we'll start with I got Lieutenant [12:41] DePalma is going to come up. Do you have [12:42] the [12:44] awards? [12:45] Um what I'd like to do first is uh the [12:47] Chief's Achievement Award and I'm going [12:49] to actually Usually you you guys have [12:51] known me a long time. I don't read [12:52] anything in general. We just talk. [12:54] But, Lieutenant DePalma put some nice [12:56] fancy stuff together. So, I'm going to [12:58] try to stay on [13:00] course here. [13:01] Anyway, [13:02] uh Officer Spadaia, could you come down, [13:04] please? [13:06] So, Officer Spadaia and Detective [13:09] Fullmore, Detective Fullmore is not here [13:11] tonight. [13:12] But, uh we want to give him the Chief's [13:14] Award [13:16] what Lieutenant DePalma came up with was [13:18] being awarded for an outstanding act of [13:20] achievement. Moving into the new [13:22] building [13:23] would not be possible without the [13:24] dedication, professionalism, and [13:26] unwavering commitment of officers today [13:29] and Detective Fullmer, which you guys [13:31] know this is true. Big lift. [13:33] On behalf of the entire department, [13:34] thank you for your countless hours, your [13:36] commitment to excellence excellence, and [13:38] your steadfast dedication to the [13:39] organization. Your work has left a [13:41] permanent mark on the department and [13:43] every person who walks through the doors [13:44] of the building. [13:45] Yeah, you could tell that I didn't write [13:46] this. [13:47] >> [laughter] [13:49] >> Really nice. [13:50] Congratulations. [13:51] Um it's my honor to award this to you. [13:53] So, the lieutenant's going to give this [13:54] to you. Thank you. And good job. [13:57] >> [applause] [14:04] » ON TOP OF WHAT WAS WRITTEN, [14:07] THE AMOUNT OF WORK, EFFORT, and [14:10] problem-solving that went into getting [14:12] us in there was [14:14] difficult and amazing. And I'll let it [14:16] go with that. [14:16] >> Can Can I just say you didn't mention [14:17] the headaches with this guy? [14:18] >> Yes. [14:19] >> [laughter] [14:20] >> He's my headache. [14:22] >> Trying to keep him out of it. [14:25] All right. Then, if we could have [14:26] Officer Kelleher and Officer Shahak come [14:29] up. [14:33] So, these two are getting the Medal of [14:35] Valor. [14:36] And what I'm going to do is I am going [14:38] to read this because it really does lay [14:40] it out pretty nicely as to what [14:42] happened. So, um [14:45] August 15th of last year, [14:48] at about [14:49] 3:45 in the afternoon, [14:52] Manville PD was searching for a male [14:54] suspected of being in possession of a [14:56] firearm. [14:58] Possibly fleeing by the train. [15:00] Surrounding agencies were advised to [15:01] check the train station, which we have a [15:03] train station, and these guys went and [15:04] did that. [15:06] Officer Kelleher responded along with [15:08] members from the prosecutor's office. [15:10] Upon checking the platform, the actor [15:11] was actually located. And if any of this [15:13] is off, you can correct me, but blame [15:15] him. [15:16] Um the actor became immediately agitated [15:19] and argumentative with the officers on [15:20] scene. The actor then tried to walk away [15:22] and began reaching into his waistband [15:25] towards what the officers believed to be [15:27] was a firearm. And and every police [15:29] officer here knows and you guys probably [15:30] do, too. I mean, the thing that gets you [15:32] hurt is your hands. You got to watch [15:33] your hands. So, when he's [15:35] sticking his hand somewhere, [15:37] makes you nervous. [15:39] The actor started shout- a physical [15:41] confrontation ensued. Officer Shahad [15:43] arrived on scene as well. [15:46] The actor started shouting, "Kill me. [15:47] Shoot me. I'm not going back." Also, [15:49] during the length of time trying to take [15:50] control of his hands, he was refusing to [15:52] remove his left hand from holding the [15:54] handle of the firearm. [15:57] The actor was then handcuffed and [15:58] secured as more officers arrived on [15:59] scene and the weapon was secured. [16:01] Officer Callaher hurt her hand. [16:03] Um [16:06] As I'm reading this, I think I'm not [16:07] supposed to talk about injuries, but you [16:09] broke your finger. [16:10] Um and the actor actually spit on [16:12] Officer Shahad [16:14] in the face and mouth. Officers Callaher [16:16] and and Officer Shahad, Somerset Police [16:18] Department would like to recognize both [16:19] of you for your acts of extraordinary [16:21] heroism [16:22] that were displayed during your actions [16:24] on that day. [16:26] While responding to a subject with a [16:27] firearm, your immediate actions [16:29] displayed that day are an example of how [16:30] you're willing to place the welfare of [16:32] others above yourselves. [16:34] This exemplifies the essence of the [16:35] Valor Award. Congratulations on the [16:37] award. [16:39] >> [applause] [16:47] » And I was up there, too. I watched what [16:49] was going on. They had him on the ground [16:51] by the time I got there. And the guy was [16:54] very, very violent and [16:56] it was not a good situation. They were [16:58] also honored by the 200 Club of Somerset [17:01] County for their actions. So, [17:03] congratulations. [17:07] » [applause] [17:12] » Okay, uh Officer Black, come on up here, [17:15] please. [17:18] And this is a good one. This is a real [17:20] good one, too. [17:21] He's also getting the Medal of Valor. [17:25] So, again, I'm going to read it cuz I [17:27] think he did a good job. [17:30] September 6th of 2025 [17:33] at [17:35] 2:17 in the morning, so you know there's [17:37] a little different environment going on, [17:38] right? [17:40] While investigating an unrelated [17:41] incident, a report from dispatch came in [17:43] that a male was on a street in town [17:46] uh with a gun threatening people. [17:49] Upon arrival, Officer Black confronted [17:51] the subject who was in the area and gave [17:53] him the clear verbal commands not to [17:55] move. He assumed it was the person that [17:57] he was sent there to deal with that had [17:59] a gun. [18:01] At that point, the actor then started [18:02] running and ran away from Officer Black who started running after him [18:07] and caught him. [18:08] Officer Black immediately, without any [18:10] hesitation, chased the subject for [18:11] approximately 30 yd and was able to stop [18:13] him and place him under arrest. [18:16] The actor was in possession of a loaded [18:17] magazine and ammo in his pocket. In [18:19] addition, a firearm was also found near [18:21] where the actor was arrested indicating [18:23] that he had the gun on him and when he [18:24] tackled him it came out of his pocket or [18:27] whatever. Is that pretty much accurate? [18:29] Okay. [18:30] Um [18:32] the Saugus Police Department like to [18:33] recognize you for your act of [18:34] extraordinary heroism that was displayed [18:36] during this altercation. Uh the [18:38] professionalism, confidence, and quick [18:40] action that was displayed that night [18:41] while responding gave to someone who had [18:43] a gun even though the result was imminent [18:46] personal hazard to yourself was a [18:48] selfless act of bravery. [18:50] Due to these actions, you will be [18:52] receiving a Medal of Valor. [18:53] Congratulations. [18:55] >> [applause] [19:04] » May have 2:15 in the morning you get a [19:05] report of a guy he's out there at the [19:07] Pine by himself. He takes off, goes [19:09] after him, gets him, got guns. [19:10] >> Yeah. [19:13] I thank you guys for allowing this [19:14] tonight and participating with us. Thank [19:17] you very much. [19:18] >> Chief, thank you. Um, [19:20] thank you. Thank all of your officers, [19:22] those that are here and those that that [19:23] are that are not here. [19:26] Um, [19:27] you know, I just find it fascinating. [19:28] So, more and more [19:30] our police officers are called on to to [19:32] do different things. Uh, everything from [19:35] what you heard about tonight to um, [19:39] marriage counselors, psychologists, [19:41] psychiatrists, um, you name it, across [19:44] the board. Uh, and it's not an easy job. [19:47] It's it's a passion that our officers [19:50] have and and we have a difference. I [19:52] think we have an extremely well-trained [19:55] force [19:56] um, led by an administrative team that [19:59] is uh, second to none. I I'll put our [20:02] officers up against any officers in the [20:03] county. I think they're top-notch. [20:06] Um, they're always out there. Um, [20:08] they're always waving, at least they're [20:09] waving at me. [20:10] Uh, that or they're telling me get out [20:12] of the way. I don't know. [20:13] >> [laughter] [20:13] >> Um, but I want to thank every one of you [20:16] for what you do every single day because [20:18] it's it's not just the the um, [20:20] these items that you heard about today. [20:22] It's the everyday. And uh, um, [20:26] it's it's not easy. It's a challenge. [20:28] It's a challenging job. You do it well. [20:30] You keep our community safe. [20:33] Thank you. God bless all of you. Thank [20:35] you. [20:35] >> [applause] [20:39] » All right, you can go. [20:43] And family, you can go, too. [21:11] » All right, we'll continue on. Um, before [21:13] we get to to the meeting [21:15] open to the public for public comment [21:17] cuz I know there will be public comment [21:19] on the library issue. [21:21] Um, I just kind of want to cycle back a [21:23] little bit and and talk a little bit [21:26] about that because it's become a strong issue [21:30] for our entire community. [21:33] And and I think everybody's goal is [21:35] exactly the same. Um, it's that we want [21:38] to have a premier, a good, fantastic [21:42] library in our community. [21:45] And I also believe that the long-term [21:49] goal of [21:51] trying to build something bigger and [21:54] better [21:55] is also good. [21:56] And I think I share the same sentiment [21:59] of council [22:00] that that we'd like to see that. [22:03] The challenge is we have this goal [22:05] that's out here. [22:07] And we have now, which is over here. [22:11] And [22:12] obviously recently [22:14] the Somerset County County Library [22:16] Commission has taken steps to [22:18] um [22:20] close the Somerville branch. [22:23] Um [22:24] citing a number of issues, [22:26] one of which was mold issues. [22:30] Uh, health concerns of their employees. [22:33] We take that very seriously. Um, once [22:36] that was made [22:38] I ordered the testing of the area [22:40] immediately. [22:41] And I'm going to back up a second [22:43] because there was mold testing and [22:45] remediation done [22:47] about a year ago. And that was in the [22:49] downstairs level, [22:50] the basement level of the uh [22:53] the library. [22:55] Remediated, brought back to [22:58] standard. [23:00] Fast forward to this year. [23:02] Um [23:02] we received a letter and it said we were [23:05] closing citing those concerns. [23:08] Again, so testing was ordered [23:10] immediately. [23:12] When [23:13] the initial testing came back for the [23:15] upstairs, [23:16] that testing showed no elevated mold. [23:20] The area was okay. [23:22] I had ordered immediate testing of the [23:25] downstairs again just to ensure [23:28] that that the remediation we did last [23:30] year [23:31] held. [23:33] And that has come back now. [23:35] And that also shows no elevation of [23:37] mold. [23:39] So, that presents a challenge. [23:42] It doesn't negate, you know, the the [23:44] idea that somebody may feel ill. [23:47] So, we've taken an extra step and I've [23:51] ordered that we bring in an [23:53] environmental engineer {slash} [23:55] industrial hygienist [23:57] to do further testing [23:59] to ensure that the air [24:01] and the quality in the library both [24:04] upstairs and downstairs [24:07] is satisfactory. [24:09] Once that's done and they come back to [24:11] us with those results, [24:14] one of two things will happen. Either [24:16] the results show that there are no [24:17] issues [24:19] or they will show that there are issues. [24:22] They will be mitigated. And we will also [24:24] implement best practices that they show [24:26] we should. [24:28] Um [24:32] I think that's going over and above what [24:35] the cited reasons were for [24:37] closing the library. [24:40] And [24:42] I think it's a good practice for us. [24:44] And I would even take it a step further [24:46] and say that we would conduct further [24:47] testing as the years go on or as the [24:50] year goes on just to ensure. Let's [24:52] monitor, monitor testing. [24:55] Um [24:59] the challenge we have is that [25:03] while the mold issue seemed to be the [25:06] impetus for this, [25:07] other issues now have come up in that [25:10] the space isn't suitable. [25:12] The space is not big enough. Uh and [25:15] these are some reasons that we've been [25:16] given for [25:18] uh for the uh county to close the [25:21] library. [25:23] Um [25:25] I don't believe that's right. [25:27] Um [25:29] this [25:31] is a small branch library. [25:35] It doesn't mean that we can't grow. [25:37] But what it does mean [25:39] is that between the time that we grow [25:43] into something else and now [25:46] we have to maintain that service [25:50] to our constituents. [25:53] In 2010, I brought [25:55] our library to the county because our [25:58] library was not in good financial shape. [26:02] And the library embraced us, the county [26:05] system embraced us. They wanted us to be [26:07] a part of it. [26:09] And 15 years later, um I'm I'm [26:12] questioning some of that. [26:14] So, it it is a challenge. [26:19] I think there's an opportunity for [26:21] partnership there to achieve this. [26:24] But you can't [26:27] eliminate what we have in order to [26:30] achieve this. You know, I almost look at [26:33] it as if [26:34] we're kind of the first pin [26:37] in this process. You know, what what is next? I don't know the answer to [26:42] that. But what is next? [26:44] So, [26:46] you know, it's it's a very challenging [26:48] situation. And and I've been in meetings [26:50] and and I said part of my job is to try [26:52] not to get [26:53] try to not get people into their [26:55] corners. [26:56] Sometimes it's very difficult to do [26:58] because people feel that they're right. [27:02] And I think tonight we went into [27:04] corners. [27:06] Um [27:07] and I believe and I think the council [27:09] believes, rightfully so, at this time [27:12] that we did go into our corners. [27:14] Um our goals are the same. [27:18] They are the same. [27:20] I haven't met one person that says, I [27:22] don't want a library. [27:24] I haven't met one person who says, I [27:26] don't want a nicer library. [27:30] I firmly believe, I raised five kids in [27:33] this town. [27:35] That was my wife's salvation. [27:38] Three in the triple stroller, one on her [27:39] back, and one walking. [27:42] That was her salvation. [27:46] Now my granddaughter [27:48] loves to go on Saturdays to pick up my [27:50] paperwork [27:51] and hop over to the library and do [27:53] something cool. [27:55] So, you know, it's it's This is not a [27:58] pleasant situation and I know there's [28:00] people who have a lot of different [28:01] feelings out there. [28:03] Uh there's a lot of different emotions [28:04] out there. [28:06] My goal [28:08] our goal as a council is to ensure that [28:10] we have those services. [28:12] There's been talk about renting space [28:15] somewhere downtown, renting space [28:17] somewhere in the borough to achieve [28:19] those services. [28:20] If we have a space [28:22] that's clean [28:24] certified [28:26] it's okay. [28:28] Is it old building? [28:30] Yeah. [28:31] It is an old building. [28:33] But it's Somerville's building. [28:36] And it still serves its purpose well. [28:40] And if we can show that it's certified [28:41] clean and we can we can [28:44] keep that level [28:46] I don't see why we can't reoccupy from [28:49] this time [28:51] forward [28:53] to the new beginning of whatever that [28:55] library is. [28:58] One of the challenges in creating [29:00] something is you have to define what you [29:03] want. [29:05] Now, we all have opinions on what we [29:07] want, but what is the public want? [29:09] What is the public need? [29:12] We don't have that. [29:14] We know it's technology. [29:16] Kids library. [29:17] You know, we had floated the idea of [29:19] well, why don't we make [29:21] the the counties, the regions [29:23] most special children's library in our [29:26] space [29:28] and allow the other libraries, [29:31] Hillsborough and Bridgewater [29:33] to absorb the adult. I don't know [29:35] whether that's right or wrong, [29:37] but it's a concept. [29:38] And I think that's where you have to [29:39] start with these concepts. And I know [29:41] the commission has talked about going [29:43] out and doing these types of of surveys. [29:46] Um [29:49] but I think it's premature [29:51] to begin that process without knowing [29:55] what are our asks? [29:57] What are we doing? Where are we going? [30:00] So So, the bureau has committed [30:03] that that space [30:05] is going to be occupied. [30:08] We'll know in a week or two [30:10] what the results of of all of that are. [30:13] Um and we'll either have a timeline for [30:17] remediation [30:19] or we'll have an all clear and let's get [30:22] back to work. [30:25] Um [30:26] I've asked the commission if they are [30:28] willing to work towards [30:31] a um [30:33] a goal of reoccupying that space. [30:37] And it was a qualified yes if it [30:40] expanded. [30:42] Well, we're not expanding right now cuz [30:44] we don't know what we're expanding into. [30:45] The goal is to reoccupy that space. [30:48] >> Yeah. [30:49] >> But [30:49] ex- excuse me. [30:50] >> Yeah, yeah. [30:52] » Excuse me. [30:55] Ex- [30:55] excuse me. [30:57] You are out of order. You are [31:00] out of order. [31:01] You will have your 5 minutes during [31:02] public session. [31:05] That's probably only the fourth time [31:06] I've ever gabbled in my life. I don't [31:08] gabble people. So, let's have a little [31:10] more uh decorum [31:12] here. [31:15] So, at this point, um [31:18] you know, sometimes you do have to go [31:19] into your corners. [31:21] And uh what I will do is ask the council [31:24] for a motion [31:26] to authorize the attorney to begin [31:28] drawing up [31:29] uh papers [31:31] uh [31:32] to [31:33] ensure that the library commission [31:36] uh follows the terms of our agreement [31:39] that's been established. [31:42] » Regrettably, I make that motion. [31:45] >> Second. [31:47] >> Discussion. [31:49] Roll call. [31:50] >> Council members, Andrew Cauty. [31:51] >> Yes. [31:52] >> Glen Dunay. [31:52] >> Yes. [31:53] >> Randy Pitts. [31:54] >> Yes. [31:54] >> Gina Stravic. [31:55] >> Yes. [31:55] >> Roger Vroom. [31:56] >> Yes. [31:57] >> Okay. [31:58] All right. [31:59] Uh at this point, I will ask for a [32:01] motion to open the meeting to the [32:03] public. [32:03] >> So moved. [32:04] >> Second. [32:04] >> Discussion. [32:06] Roll call. [32:06] >> Council members, Andrew Cauty. [32:08] >> Yes. [32:08] >> Glen Dunay. [32:09] >> Yes. [32:09] >> Randy Pitts. [32:10] >> Yes. [32:10] >> Gina Stravic. [32:11] >> Yes. [32:11] >> Roger Vroom. [32:12] >> Yes. [32:13] >> Okay. [32:14] Public session is now open. Please state [32:16] your name and address for the record and [32:17] please address your comments to me. [32:24] » Peter Bromberg. My address is 121 Agnes [32:27] uh Place in Bound Brook. I am the [32:28] director of the Somerset County Library [32:30] System. I am not a politician. I'm a [32:33] librarian. It is my life's work. It has [32:34] been a privilege to to [32:36] bring library services to the people of [32:38] different communities across this state [32:40] and across this country. I was invited [32:42] here tonight. I say invited in quotes [32:45] because I was asked to what might I be [32:47] willing to come tonight. [32:48] >> could you just [32:50] Yeah, could you just stay in the shot? [32:52] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I would also ask if you would just put [32:55] the microphone back, please. [32:56] >> Uh I'm going to hold the microphone. [32:58] >> No, I'm going to ask you to put the [32:58] microphone [32:59] >> I'm going to hold the microphone. [33:00] >> Peter, please just put the microphone [33:03] back. [33:03] >> W- Why? [33:04] >> Because it's piece of borough property. [33:06] Please put the microphone back. [33:07] >> Well, I'm not going to throw it at [33:08] anybody. [33:08] >> That I know you're not. I know you're [33:10] not. Please just [33:11] >> This is just This is just like [33:12] control. Like, oh, no. You're telling me [33:14] what to do. No. No. No. I'm going to [33:16] hold the microphone. [33:17] >> Peter, you're invited tonight. You were [33:18] brought into We were brought into this [33:20] room. [33:21] >> We were brought into this room with no [33:23] agenda. Uh I was asked to hold this this [33:25] night available. Uh came in. Never got a [33:28] confirmation. I had to confirm and say, [33:30] "Well, I was asked to hold this night [33:31] available. Is this Are we coming?" So, [33:34] we show up. I was asked, "Are you here [33:36] to talk Tell us that you're going to [33:37] move back into the library?" I said, "Am [33:39] I here to tell you? I don't even You [33:40] invited us here. You tell us what you [33:42] want to talk about." Well, the question [33:44] is, "Are you going to move back into [33:45] that library after we remediate?" [33:48] I said, "Well, I didn't say expand. I [33:50] said, if and when that space is made [33:53] suitable for library services, including [33:55] for our staff, because our staff have no [33:57] work space there. There's no private [33:59] space. They don't have a private [34:01] bathroom anymore to use. They were told [34:02] they can't flush solids. They have to [34:04] put waste waste paper in a waste basket [34:06] instead of flushing it. There's no It's [34:08] not suitable. We've been there for a [34:10] year. And so And last summer when we [34:12] closed and we re- the lower level and we [34:15] brought everything upstairs, [34:17] we got the all clear, right? That [34:19] everything was going to be fine. Well, [34:20] since that time, [34:22] staff have continued to have health [34:24] issues. I have I have reports here from [34:26] eight different staff members about [34:27] their health issues. That was This is [34:29] going back through all last summer. I'm [34:31] sorry. Yes. yes, I apologize. Yes, yes, [34:33] absolutely. Um Um, from through through [34:35] the through the winter, through the [34:37] fall, headaches, hives, persistent sore [34:39] throat, severe nasal drip, neurological [34:41] pain and symptoms, pressure headaches, [34:42] tracking closely with office occupancy [34:44] and sinus congestion. [34:46] I can go on and on and and I eczema, [34:48] headaches. This is eight different [34:50] people experiencing these symptoms on [34:53] and off depending a little bit on the [34:54] weather, but persistent and consistent. [34:56] And when they go when they leave the [34:58] building for 2 days, they get better. [34:59] When they come back, they feel worse. [35:01] Now, there has been so a lot of [35:02] misinformation, but when we made the [35:04] difficult decision First, we were [35:06] looking at this and saying we probably [35:07] need to to find a new a new location by [35:10] the end of the year or by the end of the [35:11] summer. [35:12] I communicated this with the bureau. [35:14] This was communicated immediately. When staff were having some some spikes [35:19] of issues, probably due to water and [35:21] humidity and weather, um, and we sat [35:24] down and said, "Looking at this, like [35:26] looking at all this in totality and [35:27] what's happening what's happening with our our staff health, um, can do we [35:32] have a high level of confidence that [35:34] there's a significant issue and can we [35:36] send them back in in in good in good [35:38] faith?" And me and my leadership team [35:40] said, "No. Our level of confidence is [35:42] high. It would be unethical, immoral, [35:44] and also take on liabilities for the [35:46] organization to send staff back in [35:48] there." As soon as that conversation was [35:50] had, I reached out to the bureau and I [35:52] communicated this. "Okay, fine." I was [35:55] told that commission was read in on this [35:57] or the council was read in on it. And [35:59] that there while the the timeline for a [36:01] July 31st closure was quick, no [36:04] questions, we'll talk about it at the [36:05] lab meeting. The lab meeting where you [36:07] sat here and said, "We're going to work [36:08] together and we're going to and I have I [36:10] didn't get returns from phone calls. I [36:12] didn't get return from from emails. I [36:14] said next day, I said, "Let's put out a [36:16] joint statement to assure everyone that [36:17] we're working together." No response to [36:19] that. And everything you said here [36:21] today, if we had had this conversation [36:23] that you're up here at the dais in that [36:25] room, I wanted to I want your the people [36:28] here to know that you have not been [36:30] showing [clears throat] up in good faith [36:31] to work. That's what I want to do. I [36:32] want to work in good faith, and if [36:34] you're willing to do that, all of you on [36:35] this dais, well, let's do that. We owe [36:38] it to them. We're on their dime. We are [36:39] public servants. This is my life trying [36:42] to get library services to people, and I [36:43] am so I will repeat deeply, deeply [36:45] disappointed in the way you you you you [36:48] treated us the the the the what you the [36:51] disconnect between what you say publicly [36:52] and what you say privately, the [36:54] disconnect between saying, "Oh, we all [36:55] want to work together and come up with a [36:57] plan." and not returning phone calls, [36:59] not engaging. I mean, it is it is [37:01] shocking to me, and I'm not naive, but [37:03] it's certainly disappointing. It is so [37:05] disappointing. I am here our our [37:07] commission chair is here. We are ready [37:09] to work hand in glove to come up with [37:11] solutions. Do we need a temporary [37:13] solution between now and when we have [37:14] built some grand building 3, 5, 7 years? [37:16] I don't know when it'll be. Yeah, we [37:18] need a temporary solution, but a [37:19] temporary solution that is not making [37:21] people sick, not making people sick day [37:25] after day. That's all we're asking for, [37:27] and we will pay the bill. We will find a [37:29] place, and we will pay the bill, and in [37:31] the meantime, we will continue to do [37:32] programming with through through partner [37:35] locations, which we've been doing all [37:36] year. We'll continue to do story times [37:38] and book clubs and outreach. [37:41] And and your and residents of Somerville [37:43] will continue to check out materials at [37:45] other locations. [37:47] You Over the last 180 days, more people [37:49] are checking out materials in [37:50] Bridgewater by by two to one than [37:53] they're checking out here. [37:55] So, you're already you you because [37:56] you're part of a large county [37:57] multi-branch system, residents have [37:59] options to go to other locations for [38:01] robust collections of programming and [38:03] services and spaces to study. That's the [38:05] benefit of being in the system. Now, if [38:07] you all decide that you want to pull out [38:09] of the system cuz it might take us a [38:11] couple months to find a temporary [38:12] location, that's your decision, and you [38:14] can hold your people behind me can [38:16] decide whether you want to hold these [38:17] people accountable or not. [38:19] >> You're just about out of time. [38:20] >> Okay, but I what I'm asking for is [38:22] honesty, what I'm asking for is [38:24] consistency and congruency between what [38:26] you say to them publicly and how you [38:28] behave when you leave the dais. [38:31] And let's work on their behalf. Let's [38:32] work together on their behalf. It is our [38:35] responsibility to do that. [38:37] >> You're about done. [38:38] >> I am done. [38:39] >> Thank you. [38:39] for your time. [38:40] >> Thank you for your comments, sir. [38:41] >> I apologize earlier for my for my [38:43] passionate comment. [38:46] >> Thank you. [38:46] >> Yeah. [38:51] » Any other public comment? [39:01] » I want to grab the microphone. [39:05] » Thank you. [39:06] >> You're welcome. [39:09] Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um I am [39:11] Jonathan Lee [39:12] from the Borough of Rocky Hill, 10 Toth [39:15] Lane, Rocky Hill. [39:18] I am also a councilman in the Borough of [39:20] Rocky Hill and chair of the library [39:22] committee. [39:25] Um it seems very suspicious [39:29] that you have a mold problem in your [39:31] library. [39:33] We've gone through a tremendously [39:36] difficult problem regarding our library [39:38] and has nothing to do with mold. It [39:40] [clears throat] has to do with the fact [39:42] that um [39:44] the Somerset County Library System [39:46] decided to no longer support our [39:48] library. Um we were the first branch of [39:52] the Somerset County Library System. [39:55] Um we had an we had an unique situation [39:58] because [39:59] um [40:00] we were the um beneficiaries of an [40:04] endowment provided by a lawyer from Philadelphia to honor his [40:09] wife. His name was Harold Jacobs. [40:13] And his wife's name was Mary. They are [40:15] both um [40:18] buried in [40:19] Rocky Hill Cemetery. [40:24] Because it was a public-private [40:28] uh agreement, um [40:30] Somerset County Library System became [40:32] uncomfortable with it over the years. [40:35] Um eventually, um Montgomery created a [40:39] new um town hall and they established a [40:43] branch of the Somerset County Library [40:44] System in their town. Previously, the [40:48] citizens of Montgomery had shared our [40:50] library [40:51] for uh approximately 50 years. [40:56] There was a short-term agreement where [40:58] we continued to run our library uh with [41:01] their support. [41:03] Um and then uh there was um [41:06] a period when we were supposed to [41:08] determine what the future of the library [41:10] is. [41:11] Um they uh were not too conducive to [41:16] doing that. Um they said that they were [41:18] running out of money and they told us [41:20] they were going to close down. [41:22] Um so, instead of closing down, I [41:25] believe it was um [41:28] in um May of 2024, [41:31] they closed down the previous August [41:34] because they said they had a mold issue. [41:39] Now, [41:40] tests were run [41:42] and I will tell you now that the mold [41:45] inside the building was lower than that [41:48] which was outside in the ambient air, [41:50] which is the control. [41:52] Um [41:54] so, this seems somewhat [41:56] like a modus operandi to me. [42:00] Um I would [42:02] tend to [42:03] um [42:04] fight for your library. [42:06] We spent 3 years uh [42:09] eventually [42:11] the foundation that ran the endowment [42:14] that was given for our library [42:16] decided they no longer wanted to [42:18] run a library. [42:20] And um [42:22] we went into a lawsuit with them. It [42:24] took us 3 years and hundreds of [42:27] thousands of dollars, [42:29] but we won that lawsuit. [42:32] There is now a new [42:34] Board of Trustees being constituted and [42:38] the town is now getting control of the [42:41] building so that we don't have an issue [42:43] again. [42:45] Um we will probably I don't know what [42:47] the future brings as far as what kind of [42:50] library it will be, whether we join the [42:52] Summers County Library System. They [42:54] apparently are not interested in joining [42:56] us or us joining them, even though we [42:58] were the first branch. [43:01] Um [43:02] but um [43:05] we will have a library. [43:07] We have a significant endowment. [43:09] Um I could get into details about some [43:12] of their underhanded dealings during [43:14] that [43:15] um [43:16] lawsuit where they became an amicus [43:18] curiae [43:20] and basically presented facts [43:23] that [43:24] didn't hold water as far as I'm [43:26] concerned, trying to prove that we could [43:28] not financially run a library. [43:30] We proved otherwise. We won the lawsuit. [43:33] Um [43:34] suspiciously [43:37] they were um third in line to receive [43:39] the assets if [43:42] the endowment failed, if the borough [43:45] couldn't [43:46] run the library. So, [43:49] my question is [43:51] who are we dealing with here? [43:54] Um so I figured I would come tonight. I [43:56] just read an article today [43:57] >> About 30 seconds. [43:58] >> today about this and I thought it would [44:01] be [44:02] good for you folks to hear some of the [44:04] background that we've been dealing with. [44:06] >> We appreciate your comments. Thank you, [44:08] sir. [44:08] >> Thank you. [44:10] Any other public comments, sir? [44:11] >> Is this just on library or [44:13] >> No, anything. [44:14] >> Okay, good. [44:17] My name is Daniel Pontonio. I live on [44:19] 101 Eastern Ave, Somerville. [44:22] Um [44:22] first thing about the library, I'm [44:23] curious, is there a county library, [44:25] Somerset County Library? [44:26] >> Yeah, it's not a Q&A, but yes, there is. [44:29] It's a whole system. There's a number of [44:30] different libraries. [44:31] >> know that. Just curious. [44:32] >> It's a comment period. [44:32] >> Okay. So, [44:34] the reason I'm here today is we were in [44:37] the process of buying a home on 69 [44:39] Fairmont Ave, which is right down the [44:41] street from you. [44:42] When we went through this process, what [44:44] we found out through the inspections is [44:46] that this particular house had a chimney [44:49] that had about $30,000 worth of damage. [44:52] So, my whole thinking was, coming from [44:55] where I came from, Voorhees, New Jersey, [44:57] in South Jersey, down there, when you go [45:00] through inspections, the township is [45:01] required to do a CO, and they do not let [45:04] you in that house if you're missing [45:05] sidewalk, if you're missing if you have [45:07] a crack in your fireplace, any kind of [45:10] damage you have in that fireplace, they [45:11] will not let you move in because it's a [45:13] hazard. [45:14] What I found out when I called the [45:16] township here, cuz it was an argument [45:18] with this guy, [45:19] that the township doesn't care about a [45:21] CO, that you don't need a CO to move [45:23] into an older house, and all they care [45:25] about is carbon monoxide and smoke [45:27] detectors. [45:29] Now, with that said, this town, if you [45:31] take out the new town homes and the [45:33] condos, homes are about [45:36] roughly about 80 years old in this town. [45:39] You did a great job at refurbishing this [45:41] town. Like, I'm not from here. I love [45:43] this downtown, [45:45] right? And I live down the street, and I [45:47] watched the house, and I watched the [45:50] firemen, and I watched the the police [45:53] run into a house where a girl died. [45:56] And that hit home. [45:59] I'm urging you to change your laws. You [46:02] need to have a CO. You need to inspect [46:05] fireplaces. The guy that owns that [46:07] house, what did he do to fix it? He [46:09] tried to sue me for my 80 grand down [46:11] deposit. What he did to fix it is he [46:14] brought in a guy to paint the chimney [46:16] and he's back selling it again. And God [46:18] forbid if somebody buys that house, I do [46:20] plan on giving my level two inspection [46:22] to whoever buys that house because [46:24] there's multiple hazards, there's [46:26] multiple conditions, there's cracks in [46:28] it. You burn a fire in there, there's no [46:30] vents, carbon monoxide will leak [46:33] throughout the house and God forbid if [46:35] there's kids in that house, those kids [46:36] will die. Or they will get ill. [46:39] So, my urgent to you, change the laws in [46:42] the town. I don't care if you have to [46:44] whoever buys the house, they have to pay [46:45] $150 fee. You're already paying $650 for [46:48] a home inspection. [46:50] Pay a fee. [46:51] Pay it to the township to come in there. [46:54] You need a CO to get into this house. [46:56] You need a CO, you need to have full [46:58] inspection, fireplace, and you can't [47:01] have sidewalks missing like this guy was [47:02] going to sell me. [47:04] Not until I backed out that he finally [47:05] go in there and replace the sidewalks. I [47:08] just I'm a firm believer that, you know, [47:09] safety is first. And this town, I I've [47:12] only been here 5 or 6 years. My future [47:15] in-laws have lived here their Well, they [47:17] lived here their whole lives until they [47:18] moved to Branchburg. Branch- Branchburg. [47:20] I love this town. [47:22] And that's why we're looking to move [47:23] back into this town. So, I just urge you [47:25] to really take a look at the laws. [47:28] >> Thank you. If If you stay for the [47:30] meeting, I just ask you to get your name [47:31] and telephone number to Mr. Sluka. [47:33] >> Sure. [47:33] >> And we'll make a connection. [47:35] >> Sure. Thank you. [47:35] >> Thank you. [47:38] Any other public comment? [47:46] » Thank you, Mayor, and thank you, [47:47] Council, and thank you, Somerset County Library System. [47:51] You've got a problem here. [47:53] I was a property manager for a while and [47:55] I know once you have mold in any [47:57] building, it always seems to stay. [48:01] And I understand that problem on both [48:02] sides of it. And I understand the [48:04] mitigation you can do, but people say, [48:06] "Oh, it has mold. Maybe I'm sick." [48:09] So, it's a hard problem you're going to [48:10] have to solve that. I'm not saying you [48:11] can't. I'm just saying it's a hard [48:13] problem. And it's a hard problem for you [48:15] because you have that behind you. You [48:17] weren't here when that was going on, but [48:20] unfortunately you have it now. [48:22] But, I'm here for a different reason. [48:24] Jim Somerville was our town historian [48:26] for many, many years. We have a Jim [48:28] Somerville room. [48:29] It's full of history. Full of history of [48:32] this town, this area. [48:34] I haven't heard it mentioned at all. I'm [48:36] really concerned about that. And you [48:38] know why. I'm a historian type. You [48:40] know, my wife and I ran four symposiums [48:43] about the Rev War. [48:45] We're really concerned about that and I [48:46] hope in your thinking of what you're [48:48] going to do, where you're going to live, [48:51] we don't lose that room and we don't [48:53] lose that material because it gets [48:55] abandoned for a while. [48:57] And that's what I wanted to say. Thank [48:59] you. [48:59] >> Agreed. Thank you. [49:02] Any other public comment? [49:05] Sir. [49:12] » Justin Kaiser, North Clark Avenue. Uh [49:15] I'm here tonight on behalf of SBI. [49:18] I'm currently a board member. I just [49:19] want to take a moment to thank uh you, [49:21] Mayor Gallagher, the council uh for [49:24] passing [49:25] uh the new ball fields going in the [49:27] Carol Pedro Ballpark. Um I grew up [49:29] playing on ball fields. I feel it shaped [49:31] me as a man. [49:32] Um building a lot of long friendships, [49:35] teamwork, uh discipline. [49:37] Um [49:39] it's just a wonderful thing. You guys [49:40] are making an investment in not only a [49:42] ball field, but in the kids, [49:45] uh the parents, the town. So, I just [49:47] want to say thank you very much. It's [49:50] really appreciated and it wasn't a small [49:52] undertaking. [49:53] >> Thank you. [49:53] for coming out and saying [49:54] that. Thank you. [49:56] Any other public comment? [50:04] » Good evening. Roberta Carpenito, 66 [50:07] Fairview Avenue. And I'm also the [50:08] chairman of the Somerset County Library [50:10] Commission. [50:12] I would just like to say, Mayor, I [50:13] respect what you're saying. [50:15] I think an issue that we're encountering [50:18] is we are not seeking to close the [50:21] library. [50:23] We wish to provide 21st century library [50:26] service to our patrons and it in a [50:30] healthy, safe environment. Right now, [50:33] the mold is an issue and we do [50:35] appreciate what you're doing to [50:37] remediate it. But I stopped down in the [50:40] library on Friday. [50:43] And it's not just mold. As Peter [50:46] indicated, the sewers are a problem. The [50:49] emergency exit door in the children's [50:52] room, there's a big sign on it [50:54] downstairs in the basement. There's a [50:56] sign on it that says alarm, door locked. [50:59] The door's ajar. [51:01] Can't close it. It's a jar. [51:03] That's a safety issue. [51:05] There have been in You've had reports [51:07] over the years through the hack that [51:09] there are other [51:11] issues with regard to water. The windows [51:14] are moldy. If you look at the windows, [51:16] they're moldy. [51:18] You have chunks [51:20] of of insulation where pipes are. Chunks [51:24] ripped out of that insulation. [51:26] There are There are issues there that [51:29] make it untenable for us to continue to [51:32] provide service. [51:35] Upstairs, we've had concerns from [51:37] parents. They don't like that we have [51:40] glass walls in the children's room. [51:42] That's a concern for them. [51:44] They're concerned about the emergency [51:47] exit. I took a look at that. It's [51:49] totally rusted. And yes, Mayor, they did [51:52] repair the bottom step by putting 2 by [51:55] 4s on it. That's not a safety situation. [52:00] So, we do want to work with you, but [52:03] that wasn't the question that was asked [52:06] of Peter and I when we were in the [52:08] executive session. [52:10] We cannot address a hypothetical. If [52:13] something occurs, which we don't know [52:16] what it might be, will we do this? [52:19] If the question is, can we work [52:21] together? Yes, absolutely. [52:24] I started my political career working to [52:27] save the Somerville Public Library. [52:30] And I I spent most a good part of my [52:33] time doing that. And Mayor, we worked [52:35] together to join the county association [52:38] or the county commission. [52:39] Why would we want to change that? [52:42] But we do need to work together. And I'm [52:44] hoping perhaps the governing body [52:48] and the commission, we can all take a [52:50] deep breath [52:51] and say, let's start again. Maybe have [52:54] another discussion. [52:56] But one where the question is, how can [52:59] we work together? Not, will you do this? [53:02] Oh, no, if your answer isn't yes, please [53:04] leave the room. Thank you. [53:08] >> Any other public comment? Yeah. [53:16] » Hi, my name is Kate Ambrose. I live at [53:18] 204 East Cliff Street. [53:22] And I just wanted to say the library has [53:25] been and will always be extremely [53:28] important to my family and I. We use the [53:29] library a lot. Um [53:31] we my daughter loves to go pick out [53:35] books. We my husband just gave a [53:38] book reading there a couple weeks ago [53:40] and it was a great [53:42] And um so that's where I'm coming from. [53:46] I [53:48] the librarians and other staff members [53:51] at the library are also many of them are [53:55] also our community members and we care [53:57] about each other deeply in this town. [54:00] And I really care that they are getting [54:03] sick. As someone who suffers from [54:04] migraines, I really have heard what [54:07] Peter had was saying before about their [54:10] symptoms. [54:12] And the mold testing was a good start. [54:14] I'm really happy to hear that Did you [54:16] say it was an industrial hygienist? [54:18] >> Yes. [54:19] >> is doing the testing. That's exactly who [54:21] needs to be doing the testing. I'm not [54:23] an expert, but I have talked to one [54:26] about this very issue. And um there are [54:29] many apparently many other things in the [54:32] air that could be making people sick, [54:35] not just mold. There's other particles, [54:38] fibers that could be in the air that [54:40] makes somebody sick. [54:42] Um people who are susceptible, people [54:45] who have asthma, people who have [54:48] allergies, people who suffer from [54:49] migraines, um people who are on chemo, [54:53] all all different people that are [54:55] susceptible could be affected by these [54:57] other things that aren't necessarily [55:00] toxic mold. [55:02] So I'm really glad and the public will [55:05] um [55:06] be anxious to hear those results. [55:09] Um [55:11] it's not okay that this relationship has [55:15] soured. [55:17] And I'm sure it's not okay with any of [55:19] the people in this room. [55:22] This [55:23] relationship needs to mend for the good [55:26] of the community. [55:28] We need to get back to communication [55:31] and problem-solving. [55:35] I think that it's true um [55:39] that that space [55:41] although the staff members have done a [55:43] tremendous job working with what they [55:47] were given. [55:48] Um that space was not working as just [55:52] somebody visiting the library and I'm [55:54] sure many parents would agree. Um it's [55:58] not the same since they needed to move [56:00] out of of the children's section [56:02] downstairs. [56:04] So I'm asking everybody just to take a [56:08] minute and get themselves together and [56:11] that get back to what's important, which [56:14] is problem solving for this community. [56:17] Um [56:19] and get back to a working relationship. [56:21] We expect it and we demand it. Thank [56:24] you. [56:24] >> Thank you for your comments. [56:26] Any other public comment? [56:35] » Okay. My name is Edward O'Dowd. Uh I [56:37] work at a facility on Main Street called [56:40] Freedom Trail, [56:42] which is um collaborative services of uh [56:45] New Jersey. [56:46] A company that's been in existence since [56:48] the '80s. We serve uh [56:50] some of Somerville's most vulnerable. [56:53] And Lorraine, my partner, and I have [56:55] been at it for the last 4 months. We [56:57] wanted to just generate some awareness [56:59] about what we're doing and who we are [57:01] cuz we feel like nobody really knows us. [57:03] Um [57:05] that was all. [57:06] >> Great. Uh what I would suggest is get [57:08] your contact information to Mr. Sluka [57:10] >> Mhm. [57:11] >> and uh um [57:12] website, any literature you might have, [57:15] and uh [57:16] you know, I I'd be interested in finding [57:17] out more about you. [57:18] >> Okay. Thank you. [57:19] >> Thank you. [57:22] Any other public comment? [57:25] » [clears throat] [57:31] » Good evening. Uh Brian Healey, 70 [57:33] Veterans Memorial Drive, right here in [57:35] Somerville. That's h e a l e y, and [57:38] Brian, just like the mayor. [57:40] >> [laughter] [57:41] >> Spelled the right way. [57:42] >> That's right. [57:43] And I come to you tonight for something [57:44] very, very simple. I live on the one of [57:46] the apartment buildings on Veterans [57:47] Memorial, and I want to know I I've been [57:49] living there about 8 years now, and [57:52] Veterans Memorial Drive east and west [57:53] has been [57:54] basically a test on your suspension for [57:56] since I've lived there. [57:58] And I know it's not a state or a county [58:00] road, so I know when is public works or [58:02] the borough going to resurface that [58:04] road. I know PSE&G has ripped it up [58:06] 50,000 times doing utility work here and [58:09] there, but it's just it's been a mess [58:11] since I've lived there, and it's I know [58:13] all the roads have been done, and I was [58:15] wondering if it was possible cuz it's a [58:16] very busy road, it's a very major road. [58:18] People travel on it all the time. [58:20] I was curious as to when it will be uh [58:23] done, or when public works will will put [58:25] that on their agenda. [58:27] >> Thank you. Thank you for your comments. [58:29] That's all right. I will in a in a [58:31] moment. Any other public comment? [58:38] » Good evening. [58:40] As many of you know, my name is Mallory [58:42] Craig Karen. I'm a mom, and I live at 41 [58:45] Ross Street. [58:46] I am here about our library, [58:49] but also about something more [58:51] fundamental. [58:52] Namely, [58:54] our town deserves to be a partner in [58:56] decisions made about Somerville's [58:58] library, [58:59] rather than an afterthought, informed by [59:01] the county only after decisions have [59:03] already been made. [59:05] So, this is about process. This is not [59:07] about anything more. [59:09] Tonight, I'm asking our council to [59:11] confirm whether the required processes [59:13] were followed, and whether it will be [59:15] the case going forward. [59:18] Somerville's library has served local [59:20] residents not only as a place for [59:22] reading, [59:24] but also as an information hub, [59:26] right, with computer access and trained [59:29] librarians, [59:30] a study center for students, [59:33] a designated cooling center where our [59:35] elderly residents cool off in sweltering [59:37] weather like today, [59:39] and a center where our families and [59:41] community groups can gather. [59:44] Yet, our library branch was permanently [59:47] closed, [59:49] at least for this time, by the county [59:50] library system last Friday [59:52] with very little notice given to the [59:54] public. [59:56] Looking into this decision, [59:58] I'm presented with more questions than [1:00:00] answers, [1:00:01] namely about the process, [1:00:03] and questions that include the [1:00:04] following. [1:00:06] First, section two of Somerville's [1:00:08] contract with the county library system [1:00:11] requires borough approval before any [1:00:13] closure of our branch. [1:00:15] I checked with our borough clerk, who [1:00:17] confirmed that formal approval was never [1:00:20] sought nor given. [1:00:22] So, I'm asking the council and our mayor [1:00:24] tonight, just factually to be aware, [1:00:27] did the borough council authorize the [1:00:29] county to close our library? And if so, [1:00:32] can you tell us when you authorized it [1:00:34] and what led to your decision? [1:00:36] Separately, public records suggest that [1:00:39] Somerset County's library commission, [1:00:42] which is the board that governs the [1:00:43] county library system, [1:00:45] never formally authorized Somerville's [1:00:47] library closure. [1:00:49] The library commission doesn't meet in [1:00:51] July or August, so I can't go ask them [1:00:53] directly, [1:00:55] but I'm wondering if the council knows [1:00:57] whether the library commission had [1:00:59] approved our library's closure before [1:01:01] their summer break. [1:01:03] Note, however, that even if the [1:01:05] commission had separately approved of [1:01:07] the closure, [1:01:08] this should not circumvent the county's [1:01:10] obligations to Somerville under section [1:01:13] two of our agreement with the county. [1:01:16] Third, [1:01:17] one reason given for the closure, again, [1:01:19] just one, [1:01:21] was the suspected presence of mold. [1:01:23] To his credit, when that issue was first [1:01:25] presented and reported to him, Mayor [1:01:28] Gallagher quickly ordered testing to [1:01:31] determine whether mold was a health [1:01:32] threat to the library's employees and [1:01:34] others. [1:01:35] As we've discussed, preliminary samples [1:01:38] from the occupied floors of the building [1:01:40] found that mold levels there were not [1:01:42] elevated. [1:01:43] And the county library director, who we [1:01:45] heard from tonight, [1:01:46] indicated that the decision to close the [1:01:48] Somerville library was not actually [1:01:50] caused by the test results and would not [1:01:53] sway the decision to close the result [1:01:54] the library. [1:01:56] It is true [1:01:58] that the age of the facility and the [1:01:59] reductions in the usable space within it [1:02:02] were less than ideal. [1:02:04] But, the question arises, [1:02:06] why the sudden closure of the entire [1:02:08] facility, [1:02:09] including its usable spaces, [1:02:11] before an improved replacement plan had [1:02:14] been developed and shared in partnership with our bureau? [1:02:21] Put plainly, our library's closure [1:02:23] appears to have been a decision [1:02:25] in which Somerville's legal right to [1:02:27] input was bypassed. [1:02:29] And I understand that that input is a [1:02:32] right that we have as part of the [1:02:34] process. [1:02:36] When the closure was recently announced, [1:02:38] we drafted a petition confirming [1:02:39] community support for making [1:02:41] Somerville's library a priority. [1:02:44] This modest effort to build awareness [1:02:46] has already resulted in hundreds of [1:02:48] local signatures, which I provided to [1:02:50] all of you tonight, and I can also [1:02:51] provide digital copies. [1:02:54] We warmly recognize the very important [1:02:58] work that you do as our elected leaders [1:03:01] to ensure that we have a library that [1:03:03] serves our community's needs. [1:03:05] And the response to our petition [1:03:07] confirms [1:03:08] that the library should indeed be one of [1:03:11] your priorities for Somerville. [1:03:13] I have personally written to to county [1:03:15] library director expressing the concern [1:03:18] that our library branch was closed [1:03:20] without a viable plan being shared to [1:03:22] replace it. And perhaps I'm I'm really [1:03:25] looking forward to answers tonight. Um, [1:03:27] you know, without that process being [1:03:29] followed. [1:03:31] Those of us who love Somerville and [1:03:33] believe that our [1:03:35] truly great town deserves a vibrant [1:03:37] library [1:03:39] now count on you as our leaders [1:03:41] to ensure that local library services be [1:03:45] restored fully and quickly in some [1:03:47] central Somerville location [1:03:50] as promised by the county library [1:03:51] system. [1:03:53] And fundamentally I ask that you ensure [1:03:55] and continue to ensure that Somerville's [1:03:58] rights under agreement will be honored. [1:04:00] Thank you so much. [1:04:02] >> Thank you. [1:04:05] Any other public comment? [1:04:08] Hearing none, I'll ask for a motion to [1:04:09] close. [1:04:10] >> So moved. [1:04:11] >> Second. [1:04:12] >> Discussion. Roll call. [1:04:14] >> Council members, Anne [1:04:15] Andrew Conty. [1:04:16] >> Yes. [1:04:17] >> Linda Lee. [1:04:17] >> Yes. [1:04:18] >> Randy Pitts. [1:04:18] >> Yes. [1:04:19] >> Gina Stravic. [1:04:19] >> Yes. [1:04:20] >> Roger Fleming. [1:04:21] >> Yes. [1:04:21] >> All right, public session is now closed. [1:04:23] Um, the the easy one first, Veterans [1:04:25] Memorial Drive, the paving. [1:04:27] Where is he? There he is. [1:04:29] Um, I believe we're coming to a close [1:04:31] very soon on a grant that we had [1:04:33] received which would pave Veterans [1:04:36] >> The uh bids on that project are due [1:04:38] August 12th. Um, [1:04:40] once the bids are received, it's not as [1:04:42] simple as as our normal process cuz it's uh federally funded. They uh two [1:04:48] things have to happen is it goes to the [1:04:51] state DOT who then communicates with the [1:04:54] federal government to ensure that the [1:04:56] bids were satisfactory and and meet [1:04:58] their their requirements. In addition to [1:05:00] that is uh the federal government does [1:05:03] require a full-time construction [1:05:06] inspector on the job. That RFP is is [1:05:09] waiting for approval to be issued. So, [1:05:12] um listen, I I know we also use that road for, you know, one of the [1:05:18] state's largest Turkey Trots, right? So, [1:05:20] that that's the goal to try to get it, [1:05:22] but right now, unfortunately, because of [1:05:24] the level [1:05:26] that has to go through, but the bids are [1:05:27] coming back on August 12th, which is a [1:05:29] couple weeks. [1:05:30] >> we can say probably late fall, early [1:05:32] spring. Is that a reasonable time frame? [1:05:35] >> Yeah, I said that before. Um [1:05:37] >> [laughter] [1:05:39] >> Unfortunately, you know, for us. Oh, [1:05:41] yeah. Uh that's our certainly our goal [1:05:44] is to push that envelope. [1:05:45] >> Yeah. Okay. [1:05:47] Um [1:05:47] as far as all the questions relating to [1:05:50] the library, and there's some good [1:05:51] questions. And look, I I appreciate [1:05:54] everybody's passion on this, and and we [1:05:57] share that. [1:05:58] I I said at the outset of this, [1:06:00] everybody's goal is exactly the same. [1:06:03] And it's unfortunate that we've been [1:06:05] pushed to our corners for a whole lot of [1:06:06] reasons. [1:06:08] And and I don't like being pushed to [1:06:09] corners. [1:06:10] Um [1:06:14] I sat on our library commission here, or [1:06:17] committee. [1:06:18] Um I've sat on the county li- well, I [1:06:21] was the liaison as a freeholder, I was [1:06:24] the liaison to the county library [1:06:25] system. [1:06:26] I know how it works. [1:06:28] I've been around it a long time. [1:06:31] 25 years. [1:06:33] I know the process. [1:06:35] Um we have rights under our agreement. [1:06:39] Um I'll agree with Roberta. We do need [1:06:42] to talk. We do need to to come to an [1:06:45] agreement. [1:06:46] And part of that is first, ensuring that building, our building, is clean [1:06:53] and safe. [1:06:54] That's my primary concern right now. [1:06:56] Once that's done, [1:06:57] and I said this at our our meeting last [1:07:00] Thursday, [1:07:01] I said, when we can show that that [1:07:02] building is clean and ready to go and [1:07:04] ready to occupy, [1:07:06] that's when we can have that discussion. [1:07:08] And I'm pointing at Kevin and pointing [1:07:10] at Peter cuz Peter was sitting there [1:07:11] last week. Um but that's when we can [1:07:13] have that discussion. [1:07:15] Um [1:07:16] we have to do our diligence to ensure [1:07:19] that that's safe. [1:07:20] At the same time, we also have to as a [1:07:22] municipality preserve our rights under [1:07:25] our agreement, and that's what our [1:07:26] attorney will do. [1:07:27] Um [1:07:30] it's going to be a little bit of a [1:07:31] process. Um [1:07:34] I would agree if if they can outsource [1:07:36] some at this point while we go through [1:07:39] that, [1:07:40] great. [1:07:41] And I had intimated to that last week [1:07:44] that we would help in that process. We [1:07:46] can. [1:07:47] But when that building is clean, [1:07:50] well, I'm even when it's [1:07:52] when we have the results back, and [1:07:54] again, the the mold was brought up again [1:07:56] that there's mold. [1:07:58] There's not There is no mold. [1:08:00] There's no more mold inside than there [1:08:01] is outside. That's what the testing is [1:08:03] showing. [1:08:04] And and we keep coming back to this mold [1:08:07] issue, and the mold issue was the [1:08:08] impetus for this entire discussion. [1:08:11] And we now have proof that that's not [1:08:13] the case. [1:08:15] So I think we have to kind of work [1:08:18] through some of those issues as to what [1:08:20] the reasons are. [1:08:21] Um and I would agree with you as well, [1:08:24] Mallory. I think you you you took this [1:08:25] on and I give you kudos for that. It's a you took this on and and you've [1:08:30] brought it to um [1:08:32] you know, the forefront of of a [1:08:34] discussion, and and I think that's good. [1:08:36] Um [1:08:39] I was around for Rocky Hill. I was a [1:08:41] freeholder when Rocky Hill was going [1:08:42] through. And I actually helped the [1:08:45] discussions in keeping Rocky Hill open [1:08:47] at that time. I sat with their mayor. [1:08:50] So I'm very familiar with all this [1:08:53] that's going on. [1:08:55] Um but my goal is [1:08:58] to keep our library in town. [1:09:01] And this building will be [1:09:04] certified. [1:09:06] And it'll be ready to be reoccupied [1:09:10] in the short term. [1:09:11] Then we can work on the long term [1:09:13] because we all want the same thing out [1:09:15] of that long term. We all do. [1:09:19] It makes sense. [1:09:20] So. [1:09:22] Um all right. [1:09:25] Resolutions. Uh we have consent [1:09:26] resolutions any to be pulled off for [1:09:28] further discussion. [1:09:31] All right, hearing none. 234 is [1:09:33] authorizing the sale of surplus [1:09:34] equipment to the Flagtown Fire [1:09:36] Department in the amount of $750. [1:09:38] 235 is approving chapter 159 from the [1:09:41] Governor's Council on Alcoholism and [1:09:42] Drug Abuse for 26 Municipal Alliance [1:09:44] Grant Program. [1:09:46] 236 amending approving the release of [1:09:48] the performance bond for Santana LLC as [1:09:50] noted. 237 is authorizing the donation [1:09:53] of surplus municipal equipment to the [1:09:55] Hillsborough Township Department of [1:09:56] Public Works. 238 is amending resolution [1:09:59] as noted to authorize and direct the [1:10:01] Planning Board of the Borough of [1:10:02] Somerville to include block 67 lot one [1:10:05] which is two Park Avenue as shown on the [1:10:07] official tax map of the Borough in its [1:10:09] examination of whether certain property [1:10:11] should be determined to be an area in [1:10:13] need of redevelopment specifically a [1:10:15] non-condemnation redevelopment area [1:10:18] pursuant to the local redevelopment [1:10:19] housing law as noted and considered for [1:10:22] inclusion in the East Central Business [1:10:23] District Redevelopment Area. [1:10:25] 239 is approving the hiring of Kyle De [1:10:27] Monte as full-time laborer effective [1:10:30] August 24th at a rate of $22.50 per [1:10:32] hour. [1:10:33] 240 is approving a 6-month door-to-door [1:10:35] solicitor license for Power Home [1:10:36] Remodeling for those noted. 241 is [1:10:39] authorizing the award of a contract to [1:10:41] Millennium Communication Group for [1:10:43] access control cameras, panic buttons, [1:10:45] message boards, and software licenses [1:10:46] for the Emergency Services Facility, [1:10:49] Police Department through the interlocal [1:10:50] purchasing system. Authorizing the 242 [1:10:54] is authorizing the award of a contract [1:10:56] and execution of a master service [1:10:57] agreement with language line services [1:10:59] for on-demand telephone and video [1:11:01] interpretation services. [1:11:03] 243 is approving chapter 159 from the [1:11:05] national opioid settlement trust. 244 is [1:11:08] issuing a refund of uncollectible taxes [1:11:11] address known as 444 Catherine Street. [1:11:14] 245 is approving chapter 159 for state [1:11:16] of New Jersey 26 recycling tonnage [1:11:18] grant. Do we have a motion? [1:11:19] >> So moved. [1:11:21] >> Second. [1:11:22] >> Roll call. [1:11:22] >> Council members Andrew Conti. [1:11:24] >> Yes. [1:11:24] >> Glenn Zaney. [1:11:25] >> Yes. [1:11:25] >> Randy Pitts. [1:11:26] >> Yes. [1:11:26] >> Gina Strabic. [1:11:27] >> Yes. [1:11:27] >> Roger Vernam. [1:11:28] >> Yes. [1:11:28] >> All right, bills and vouchers Roger. [1:11:29] >> I make a motion to pay bills and [1:11:31] vouchers in the amount of 1 million [1:11:32] 512,098 [1:11:34] dollars and 80 cents. [1:11:36] >> Second. [1:11:37] >> Discussion. [1:11:39] Roll call. [1:11:39] >> Council members Andrew Conti. [1:11:41] >> Yes. [1:11:41] >> Glenn Zaney. [1:11:42] >> Yes. [1:11:42] >> Randy Pitts. [1:11:43] >> Yes. [1:11:44] >> Gina Strabic. [1:11:44] >> Yes. [1:11:45] >> Roger Vernam. [1:11:45] >> Yes. [1:11:46] >> All right, Mr. DeNike I will ask for a [1:11:47] motion for adjournment. [1:11:48] >> I would like to make a motion to [1:11:49] adjourn. [1:11:50] >> Second. [1:11:51] >> Discussion. All in favor? [1:11:53] >> I. [1:11:54] >> Opposed? This meeting is adjourned.