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>> Great, thank you. Good

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morning. We are reconvening

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from closed session, and I, as

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for folks that weren't here,

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last time we met, I wanted

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to reaffirm our commitment

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to civility. And at the start

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of every board meeting,

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I'm going to remind everyone

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what our commitment is

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on civility, and I'll read the,

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our civility statement. And

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then I have opening remark real

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quick,

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and then we'll get right on

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along to the agenda. So, the

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commitment to civility is the

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Board of Supervisors has

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adopted rules and procedures

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for which include our

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commitment to civility.

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To assure civility

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in its public meetings,

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the public is encouraged

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to engage in respectful

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dialogue that supports the

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freedom of speech and values

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of diversity of opinion. Board

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members, staff, and members

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of the public are expected to

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establish and maintain a

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cordial and respectful

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atmosphere

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during discussions, and foster

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meaningful dialogue free

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of personal attacks. Members

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of the public must adhere

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to the speaking time limit.

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The board welcomes comments

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including criticism

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about the policies, procedures,

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programs, or services

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of the county,

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or the acts or omissions

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of the board. Speakers shall

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not use threatening, profane,

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abusive language which

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disrupts, disturbs, and

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otherwise impedes orderly

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conduct of our board meeting.

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The county is committed

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to maintaining a workplace free

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of unlawful harassment and

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mindful that county staff

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regularly attends the board

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meeting. Discriminatory

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statements or conduct that

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would potentially violate the

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Fair Employment and Housing

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Act, for example,

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statements or conduct that is

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hostile, intimidating,

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oppressive,

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or abusive is disruptive to our

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meeting and will not be

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tolerated. So, good Tuesday

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morning, Tuesday, March

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24th. I wanted to just also

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acknowledge the terrible news

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that we heard from last week

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about Cesar Chavez. Many are

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still in shock and grappling

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with the news. That someone we

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respected highly and thought

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of in favorable light has shown

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that that is not true. It's

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rocked the foundation

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of what many people fought

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for tirelessly for many years.

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To the survivors,

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we believe you. We honor the

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immense courage it took

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to step out

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of darkness and speak, speak

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about what happened and not

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remain silent anymore. If

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you're a survivor, I want to

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remind you that there are

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amazing resources

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in our community like Family

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Justice Center, Verity, YWCA.

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Laura in the county family

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emailed last week and she

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reminded me

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of our founding principles as

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in our country, that is,

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we are a government of laws,

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not of men. And it's a reminder

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that the activism is more than

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one person. It's a hope and a

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fight for a better future

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for us, for others. One person

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doesn't take away all that has

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been sacrificed and achieved

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and transformed. The farmworker

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movement was a collective

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action by thousands

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of women and men to support and

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uplift our farmworkers,

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and that can't be undone.

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With that said,

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later today we are going to be

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presenting a gold resolution,

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if you'd like to stay around,

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for our farm workers

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in recognition of Farm Worker

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Week. I have given direction

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to staff to visit, circle back

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with nonprofits and our labor

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leaders to identify the county

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holidays we celebrate As

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previously established,

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Tuesday, March 31st will be a

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county holiday. And

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with that, we are going

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to shimmy on into our agenda.

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Those were my opening remarks.

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Thank you all for being here.

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And again, you can come back

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for the Gold Resolution after

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about 1 o'clock. And oh,

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pledge. Look, just me shimmying

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on by. Let's, I can't even

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think of who should lead.

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Let's just all do it together.

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Yay!

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>> Right, that's the best way.

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>> That collective action.

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Good job.

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>> I pledge allegiance

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to the flag of the United

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States of America and to the

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Republic for which it stands,

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one nation under God,

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indivisible,

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with liberty and justice

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for all.

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>> Thank you. Okay.

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Now we're going to move on

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to approval of the agenda.

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Item 2A added by addendum.

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Item 45 removed

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from regular calendar

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to consent. If there are any

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changes, if not,

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can I get a motion?

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>> So moved.

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>> Second.

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>> All those in favor?

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>> Aye.

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>> Any opposition? Seeing none,

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the motion passes. Thank you.

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Okay, consent. A public comment

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on consent calendar items 3

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through 35 and number, oh nope,

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45's gone. Oh yeah, 45.

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Sorry. If there's anyone to,

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that would like

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to provide public comment

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on consent calendar items.

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>> Yes. Good morning,

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everyone.

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>> You'll have 2 minutes.

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>> Thank you. My name is

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Duane Dewitt. I'm from

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Roseland. Number 13 is very

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important. Excuse me.

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For a number of years,

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I've known a man,

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and he's an 85-year-old veteran

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with a disabled son,

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and he's facing eviction

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from his home. And this would

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be a terrible thing

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to have happen,

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and he could perhaps become

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shelterless,

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I'm very supportive

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of this program Committee

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on the Shelterless. And I'm

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hoping you might also be able

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to read today's Press Democrat

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because there's a story

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in here

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about this man who lived

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in the home for 54 years so

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far. And, excuse me,

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he's also an Army veteran

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that's done a lot

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of good things in his life.

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One

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of the dilemmas that we face in

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this current administration and

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current business climate

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nationally is a very cutthroat

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business approach towards the

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way regular folks live. It's

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very difficult

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for an elderly person

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to be able to find housing that

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they could afford should they

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lose what they have, I'm hoping

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that you folks could become

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supportive of any efforts to

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keep people sheltered. I'm very

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supportive of the fact that you

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people also help to finance

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legal aid and other types

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of activities. We're just

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in a very difficult time,

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and I understand it may get

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worse. I'm hoping that you

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folks will have the compassion

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to reach out. I don't know

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specifically what district this

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gentleman's in, but it's over

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to the southwest of Santa

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Rosa. It's

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in the right district

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for the city of Santa Rosa. We

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need people to step up and help

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our elderly. Someday I'd like

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to be there myself,

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not just stepping up

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but being elderly. And it takes

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having a place to live

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to be able to do that, please,

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if you can in any way, shape,

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or form,

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have your workers reach out to

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this 85-year-old veteran. I

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haven't mentioned his name

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for privacy, but you can read

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the newspaper article today,

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front page, Press Democrat.

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Thank you kindly.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Good morning, board Patrick

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McDonald, I'm the housing team

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supervisor at Legal Aid of

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Sonoma County. I don't think

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Mr. Dewitt even knew that I was

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behind him, but, I, our office,

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has represented the gentleman

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that he's mentioning in the

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Press Democrat, and so I can

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also be a source for questions

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if you have any based

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on that story. I'm actually

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here to speak in support

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of the proposed funding

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for the Keep People Housed

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program. Legal Aid of Sonoma

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County is part

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of the coalition for Keep

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People Housed, which allows

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basically bridge funding

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for folks who are

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at imminent risk

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of losing their housing

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to make sure that they do

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in fact stay in that housing.

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We've been working

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within this program

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for almost 2 years now. It's

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been an essential lifeline,

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and I know that I don't have

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to explain this to any

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of you, right? But you never

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get adequate credit for all

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of the folks that you keep

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in housing, right, and the cost

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savings that are associated

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with those upstream

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investments. The Keepable

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Housing program is absolutely

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such an investment. The county

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saves enormous amounts

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of money by ensuring that

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people do not end up

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on the street, right? And once

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folks fall

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through the cracks,

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the amount that is required

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to get them back

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into housing is basically

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about 10 to 1 compared

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to what it keeps what it takes

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in terms of funding

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to keep them in housing, it's a

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tremendous upstream investment.

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We're proud to be a part

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of it, and we thank you

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for your support.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Good morning,

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board. I wanted to speak

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on the Litten tribal mitigation

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funds. I'm requesting for

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Supervisor Gore to recuse

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from this item, being that

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during his run for Senate, he

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received approximately $5,000

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from Larry and Tristan

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Stidham, each individually,

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as well as Chairman Mejia. And

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so that is a conflict. I'm

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specifically concerned

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regarding the NGO funds. I see

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that $600,000 will be allocated

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to Russian River Russian

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Riverkeeper. However, as I

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speak

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with enrolled tribal members,

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they're not aware of the

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Potter Valley Dam

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decommissioning,

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and it appears that Russian

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Riverkeeper advocates

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for policy, under Winter's

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Doctrine, I was actually

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at a meeting to advocate

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for tribal water rights

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recently in Alexander Valley,

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and Supervisor Gore and several

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other individuals

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at that meeting had me escorted

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out by 3 deputies

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for sitting there to try

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to find out

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about tribal water allocation,

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under Winter's Doctrine, The

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Round Valley Tribe is

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guaranteed water. However, the

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other tribes are filing motions

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to intervene, and we have no

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idea what the allocations will

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look like, there seems to be no

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genuine concern regarding the

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fact that we will have valid

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water supply for everybody.

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It's been extremely

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controversial and extremely

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upsetting outside in the

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Alexander Valley where certain

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individuals are represented who

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happen

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to be wealthy vineyard owners,

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yet we're excluding BIPOC

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people that we claim

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to serve, I thank you

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for listening. God bless you.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Hello, good morning, Chris

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Cabral, CEO from COTS,

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just here to say thank you

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for supporting the Keep

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People Housed program. He

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already did a great job talking

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to you about the upstream

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investments and how great it's

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been

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for the community. I just

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wanted to throw a couple

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of stats at you that I think

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are really impressive,

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over the last 12 months,

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we've been able to serve over

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800 individuals with less than

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a million dollars, which is an

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incredible investment

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for the community. And

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something that's really unique

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about this program within the

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homeless services portfolio is

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that more than half of the

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households we serve are a

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female head of household

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with children, it's really,

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really important. It's a really

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critical program

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for the community, thank you

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for your support,

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and it's nice to see all

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of you this morning.

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01:31:23,100 --> 01:31:24,100
>> Thank you. And

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before I forget, if you,

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if anybody needs headsets,

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please let us know. We have

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some out here on the table.

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Welcome. Thanks

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01:31:32,100 --> 01:31:33,100
for coming back.

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01:31:33,100 --> 01:31:35,100
>> Thanks for that. I'm here to

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say that I'm putting my

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comments on one side because I

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just wanted

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to acknowledge that David

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01:31:43,100 --> 01:31:45,100
Manning has approached me and

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01:31:45,100 --> 01:31:46,100
provided me with plan sets,

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01:31:46,100 --> 01:31:48,100
and I really appreciate that,

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01:31:48,100 --> 01:31:50,100
I'm here just to acknowledge

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that my request has been

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responded to.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Thanks.

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01:32:03,100 --> 01:32:04,100
>> Chair Hermosillo, and

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members of the Board of

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Supervisors, my name is

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Gregory Ferrin. I'm here

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in support of 3 items

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on the consent calendar, 7,

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13, and 29. Improving the

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operation

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of your commissions,

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01:32:19,100 --> 01:32:21,100
helping keep people housed,

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01:32:21,100 --> 01:32:23,100
and appointing a friend

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01:32:23,100 --> 01:32:24,100
of mine to your behavioral

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01:32:24,100 --> 01:32:25,100
health board are 3 examples of

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01:32:25,100 --> 01:32:26,100
the progressive actions you all

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01:32:26,100 --> 01:32:28,100
take every week that are on the

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consent calendar that you know

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01:32:31,100 --> 01:32:33,100
are meaningful, and I want

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01:32:33,100 --> 01:32:34,100
to thank you for them. They are

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01:32:34,100 --> 01:32:37,100
examples of the work that you

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01:32:37,100 --> 01:32:39,100
do and you're going

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01:32:39,100 --> 01:32:41,100
to continue to have to do,

437
01:32:41,100 --> 01:32:42,100
and we all need

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01:32:42,100 --> 01:32:44,100
to help you do that. Thank you.

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01:32:44,100 --> 01:32:46,401
>> Thank you. Good morning.

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>> Good morning.

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>> Good morning.

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01:33:00,100 --> 01:33:01,100
>> My name is Rose Hammack. I'm

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the current chairwoman for

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Yakima Indian Education and

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01:33:05,100 --> 01:33:07,100
Development Corporation. I'm

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01:33:07,100 --> 01:33:08,100
here with our vice chair,

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01:33:08,100 --> 01:33:09,100
Angelica.

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01:33:09,100 --> 01:33:11,100
>> Hello, my name is

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Angelica Smith, and I'm the

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vice chair at Yakima

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Educational Center.

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01:33:15,100 --> 01:33:17,100
>> We just wanted to come and,

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represent our board of

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01:33:19,100 --> 01:33:20,100
directors and thank the

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01:33:20,100 --> 01:33:21,100
community

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01:33:21,100 --> 01:33:24,100
for the support we have a lot

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01:33:24,100 --> 01:33:25,100
of plans to use the funds to,

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01:33:25,100 --> 01:33:27,100
get our building back up to par

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01:33:27,100 --> 01:33:29,100
and provide more education

460
01:33:29,100 --> 01:33:31,100
resources for our Native youth

461
01:33:31,100 --> 01:33:33,100
and families,

462
01:33:33,100 --> 01:33:35,100
and looking forward

463
01:33:35,100 --> 01:33:37,100
to finding opportunities

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01:33:37,100 --> 01:33:38,100
to welcome the community

465
01:33:38,100 --> 01:33:40,100
to our property over in

466
01:33:40,100 --> 01:33:41,100
Forestville. Thank you

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01:33:41,100 --> 01:33:42,100
for your support,

468
01:33:42,100 --> 01:33:43,100
and thank you

469
01:33:43,100 --> 01:33:44,100
for having us today.

470
01:33:44,100 --> 01:33:46,100
>> Thank you.

471
01:33:53,100 --> 01:33:54,100
>> Hi, I'm Karen Alvis, and I'm

472
01:33:54,100 --> 01:33:56,100
also here to speak about the

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Litten Funds. I'm representing

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01:33:59,100 --> 01:34:01,100
People for Parks from

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01:34:01,100 --> 01:34:03,100
Windsor. They are the nonprofit

476
01:34:03,100 --> 01:34:05,100
that is supporting a mural

477
01:34:05,100 --> 01:34:07,100
project we're doing in

478
01:34:07,100 --> 01:34:08,100
Windsor, and I'm really proud

479
01:34:08,100 --> 01:34:11,100
to be here with Rose Hammock

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01:34:11,100 --> 01:34:13,100
and Angelica Smith, who are two

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01:34:13,100 --> 01:34:15,100
people that are consulting

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01:34:15,100 --> 01:34:18,100
with us on this mural. It's

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01:34:18,100 --> 01:34:20,100
called Water is Life, and we

484
01:34:20,100 --> 01:34:23,100
are excited because this mural

485
01:34:23,100 --> 01:34:26,100
really has crossed over, not

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01:34:28,100 --> 01:34:30,100
just, a partnership with the

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01:34:30,100 --> 01:34:32,100
Town of Windsor Public Works,

488
01:34:32,100 --> 01:34:34,100
but also with the Native

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01:34:34,100 --> 01:34:36,100
community. And so, yeah,

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01:34:36,100 --> 01:34:39,100
so thank you very much

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01:34:39,100 --> 01:34:41,100
for considering this item.

492
01:34:41,100 --> 01:34:44,100
>> Thank you. Any more public

493
01:34:47,100 --> 01:34:48,100
comment

494
01:34:48,100 --> 01:34:50,401
on consent calendar items?

495
01:34:51,100 --> 01:34:54,100
Seeing none. Is there, sorry,

496
01:34:59,100 --> 01:35:01,100
anybody want to say anything?

497
01:35:01,100 --> 01:35:03,100
Comments? Discussion? No?

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01:35:03,100 --> 01:35:05,100
Okay.

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01:35:05,100 --> 01:35:06,100
>> If just a couple comments on

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consent calendar is now an

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01:35:07,100 --> 01:35:08,100
appropriate time. Yeah, I just

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01:35:08,100 --> 01:35:10,100
wanted to, it's beautiful

503
01:35:10,100 --> 01:35:12,100
to see the members from

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01:35:12,100 --> 01:35:14,100
Yakima, and,

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01:35:15,100 --> 01:35:16,100
now is not the right forum, but

506
01:35:16,100 --> 01:35:17,100
it's just a beautiful history

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01:35:17,100 --> 01:35:18,100
that I've learned. I've been

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01:35:18,100 --> 01:35:20,100
there too. Some of the

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01:35:20,100 --> 01:35:22,100
community events that you all

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01:35:22,100 --> 01:35:23,100
have hosted, some

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01:35:23,100 --> 01:35:25,100
of the most beautiful, deeply

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01:35:25,100 --> 01:35:26,100
resonant drum circles that I've

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01:35:26,100 --> 01:35:28,100
just been an outsider. And it

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01:35:28,100 --> 01:35:29,100
was just beautiful

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01:35:29,100 --> 01:35:30,100
to see the welcoming aspect

516
01:35:30,100 --> 01:35:32,100
of that, of being invited

517
01:35:32,100 --> 01:35:33,100
from other members. And this

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01:35:33,100 --> 01:35:35,100
property,

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01:35:35,100 --> 01:35:36,100
for those who don't know, is,

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01:35:36,100 --> 01:35:38,100
is right next to Schoene

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01:35:38,100 --> 01:35:40,100
Farm. It's Forestville, but

522
01:35:40,100 --> 01:35:41,100
it's a property that accesses

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01:35:41,100 --> 01:35:43,100
the ocean. And it has an

524
01:35:43,100 --> 01:35:44,100
amazing history

525
01:35:44,100 --> 01:35:46,100
of the repatriation you know,

526
01:35:46,100 --> 01:35:48,100
the battles and when there's

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01:35:48,100 --> 01:35:50,100
protests in Alcatraz and land

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01:35:50,100 --> 01:35:52,100
take back. And I know, you

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01:35:52,100 --> 01:35:54,100
know, it provides vital

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01:35:54,100 --> 01:35:56,100
services, but the buildings and

531
01:35:56,100 --> 01:35:58,100
other things,

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01:35:58,100 --> 01:35:59,100
there's just a lot

533
01:35:59,100 --> 01:36:01,100
of need there. And while you

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01:36:01,100 --> 01:36:02,100
get programs, money

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01:36:02,100 --> 01:36:04,100
for programs to run programs,

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01:36:04,100 --> 01:36:05,100
you don't get stuff for that.

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01:36:05,100 --> 01:36:07,100
So, you know, my hope is that

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01:36:07,100 --> 01:36:09,100
even as a board member who's

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01:36:09,100 --> 01:36:10,100
stepping off this board now is

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01:36:10,100 --> 01:36:12,100
that this is a part of a start

541
01:36:12,100 --> 01:36:13,100
of a long-term partnership

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01:36:13,100 --> 01:36:15,100
because we have many new parks

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01:36:15,100 --> 01:36:17,100
going down in the area

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01:36:17,100 --> 01:36:19,100
down there, new trails, you

545
01:36:19,100 --> 01:36:21,100
know, respecting traditional

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01:36:21,100 --> 01:36:24,100
access and rights. And I would

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01:36:24,100 --> 01:36:26,100
just, if there's ever an

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01:36:26,100 --> 01:36:27,100
opportunity when the work's

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01:36:27,100 --> 01:36:28,100
being done, is

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01:36:28,100 --> 01:36:30,401
for other board members,

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01:36:31,100 --> 01:36:32,100
not just myself, to come

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01:36:32,100 --> 01:36:34,100
out and see what's happening,

553
01:36:34,100 --> 01:36:36,100
because I just think it would

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01:36:36,100 --> 01:36:37,100
engender just much more, you

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01:36:37,100 --> 01:36:39,100
know, a wonderful place

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01:36:39,100 --> 01:36:41,100
to learn, and I just,

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01:36:41,100 --> 01:36:43,100
I just thank you. I also, you

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01:36:43,100 --> 01:36:44,100
know, there was a claim,

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01:36:44,100 --> 01:36:46,100
I want to state that even

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01:36:46,100 --> 01:36:47,100
though these are called the

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01:36:47,100 --> 01:36:48,100
Litten funds,

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01:36:48,100 --> 01:36:49,100
these are county general funds.

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01:36:49,100 --> 01:36:51,100
They are not tied specifically

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01:36:51,100 --> 01:36:52,100
to the Litten tribe or

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01:36:52,100 --> 01:36:54,100
whatever, once again,

566
01:36:55,100 --> 01:36:56,100
more false accusations from the

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01:36:56,100 --> 01:36:57,100
same person who stalks me all

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01:36:57,100 --> 01:36:59,100
the time. It's really good

569
01:36:59,100 --> 01:37:01,100
to see you. You know, it's

570
01:37:01,100 --> 01:37:02,100
interesting when you file

571
01:37:02,100 --> 01:37:04,100
hundreds of complaints that are

572
01:37:04,100 --> 01:37:06,100
really not investigations.

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01:37:06,100 --> 01:37:07,100
They just keep getting sent

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01:37:07,100 --> 01:37:08,100
down. It's fascinating how

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01:37:08,100 --> 01:37:10,100
people work with that. So, wow,

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01:37:10,100 --> 01:37:13,601
I hope that God finds the

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01:37:15,100 --> 01:37:17,100
people who talk about God

578
01:37:17,100 --> 01:37:18,100
but don't really follow

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01:37:18,100 --> 01:37:20,100
in his footsteps, amen. Thank

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01:37:20,100 --> 01:37:21,100
you

581
01:37:21,100 --> 01:37:22,100
to all the other projects.

582
01:37:22,100 --> 01:37:24,100
Russian Riverkeeper stood up.

583
01:37:24,100 --> 01:37:25,100
They're doing amazing,

584
01:37:25,100 --> 01:37:26,100
amazing things. This is

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01:37:26,100 --> 01:37:28,100
for a 3-year deeper dive

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01:37:28,100 --> 01:37:29,100
into the Russian River

587
01:37:29,100 --> 01:37:31,100
watershed. This is just really

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01:37:31,100 --> 01:37:32,100
magic stuff. And the goal

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01:37:32,100 --> 01:37:33,100
at the initiation

590
01:37:33,100 --> 01:37:35,100
of this process was, was to

591
01:37:35,100 --> 01:37:37,100
allocate these dollars towards,

592
01:37:37,100 --> 01:37:40,601
the area in and around the

593
01:37:41,100 --> 01:37:43,100
Litten, housing development.

594
01:37:43,100 --> 01:37:45,100
Once again, those are general

595
01:37:45,100 --> 01:37:47,100
funds that have been sitting

596
01:37:47,100 --> 01:37:48,100
here for a long time. And so,

597
01:37:48,100 --> 01:37:49,100
it's beautiful

598
01:37:49,100 --> 01:37:50,100
to see those projects.

599
01:37:50,100 --> 01:37:52,100
There'll probably be some more

600
01:37:52,100 --> 01:37:53,100
allocations. These have been

601
01:37:53,100 --> 01:37:55,100
really engaged with community

602
01:37:55,100 --> 01:37:56,100
about assessments. So, and

603
01:37:56,100 --> 01:37:58,100
Karen Alvey's If you're still

604
01:37:58,100 --> 01:38:00,100
here, I want to just thank you

605
01:38:00,100 --> 01:38:01,100
for being here and being a

606
01:38:01,100 --> 01:38:02,100
champion in that area

607
01:38:02,100 --> 01:38:04,100
of all things good. And I know

608
01:38:04,100 --> 01:38:05,100
everyone's going

609
01:38:05,100 --> 01:38:07,100
through a lot, and I want to

610
01:38:07,100 --> 01:38:08,100
let you know that we're praying

611
01:38:08,100 --> 01:38:09,100
for you too and your family.

612
01:38:09,100 --> 01:38:11,100
Amen. Thank you.

613
01:38:12,100 --> 01:38:13,100
>> Thank you. Supervisor

614
01:38:13,100 --> 01:38:15,100
Hopkins.

615
01:38:15,100 --> 01:38:16,100
>> Yeah, I just was looking and

616
01:38:16,100 --> 01:38:18,100
it wasn't, I'm not seeing, or

617
01:38:18,100 --> 01:38:19,100
no, okay, never mind, I do,

618
01:38:19,100 --> 01:38:21,100
I do see it. It wasn't

619
01:38:21,100 --> 01:38:22,100
in the summary,

620
01:38:22,100 --> 01:38:23,100
but I was just double-checking

621
01:38:23,100 --> 01:38:25,100
on the VB 707, Item 7

622
01:38:25,100 --> 01:38:28,100
resolution. I hadn't seen the

623
01:38:28,100 --> 01:38:29,100
Coast MAC, but I did find it,

624
01:38:29,100 --> 01:38:31,100
so we're good. I want

625
01:38:31,100 --> 01:38:32,100
to make sure both of our MACs

626
01:38:32,100 --> 01:38:33,100
were covered. I actually want

627
01:38:33,100 --> 01:38:34,100
to say thank you to County

628
01:38:34,100 --> 01:38:35,100
Council for that item,

629
01:38:35,100 --> 01:38:36,100
and this is, I think,

630
01:38:36,100 --> 01:38:37,100
is an opportunity

631
01:38:37,100 --> 01:38:38,100
to increase recruitment for our

632
01:38:38,100 --> 01:38:40,100
municipal advisory councils,

633
01:38:40,100 --> 01:38:41,100
especially thinking about the

634
01:38:41,100 --> 01:38:42,100
Sonoma Coast where we've got

635
01:38:42,100 --> 01:38:44,100
about 55 miles and folks

636
01:38:44,100 --> 01:38:45,100
sometimes have to commute, you

637
01:38:45,100 --> 01:38:46,100
know, late at night

638
01:38:46,100 --> 01:38:48,100
in the winter, big storms,

639
01:38:48,100 --> 01:38:49,100
all the way down from the

640
01:38:49,100 --> 01:38:50,100
Bodega Bay or vice versa. And

641
01:38:50,100 --> 01:38:52,100
so really appreciate that item

642
01:38:52,100 --> 01:38:54,100
coming forward. I also wanted

643
01:38:54,100 --> 01:38:56,100
to commend Supervisor Gore for

644
01:38:56,100 --> 01:38:58,100
the excellent work and really

645
01:38:58,100 --> 01:39:00,100
building community

646
01:39:00,100 --> 01:39:02,100
through those funds. And wanted

647
01:39:02,100 --> 01:39:04,100
to give a shout out also

648
01:39:04,100 --> 01:39:05,100
for item number 8, where we are

649
01:39:05,100 --> 01:39:06,100
also funding a number

650
01:39:06,100 --> 01:39:09,100
of amazing CBOs. I get to work

651
01:39:09,100 --> 01:39:10,100
in my job with really,

652
01:39:10,100 --> 01:39:11,100
really good people,

653
01:39:11,100 --> 01:39:12,100
and what you just saw today you

654
01:39:12,100 --> 01:39:13,100
know, testifying on behalf

655
01:39:13,100 --> 01:39:15,100
of the investment. That's the

656
01:39:15,100 --> 01:39:16,100
magic. That's where all the

657
01:39:16,100 --> 01:39:17,100
good stuff happens,

658
01:39:17,100 --> 01:39:18,100
is when folks work, you know,

659
01:39:18,100 --> 01:39:20,100
across community groups,

660
01:39:20,100 --> 01:39:21,100
across cultures

661
01:39:21,100 --> 01:39:22,100
to bring beauty and improvement

662
01:39:22,100 --> 01:39:24,100
to the community,

663
01:39:24,100 --> 01:39:25,100
I just wanted to honor that and

664
01:39:25,100 --> 01:39:26,100
commend my colleague

665
01:39:26,100 --> 01:39:28,100
for the work that went

666
01:39:28,100 --> 01:39:30,100
into that agenda item.

667
01:39:30,100 --> 01:39:32,100
>> Great, thank you.

668
01:39:32,100 --> 01:39:34,100
Supervisor Rabbitt.

669
01:39:34,100 --> 01:39:35,100
>> Not to rain on the parade,

670
01:39:35,100 --> 01:39:36,100
but I'll be voting against the

671
01:39:36,100 --> 01:39:39,100
magic as item number 8, which

672
01:39:39,100 --> 01:39:40,100
is the tourism impact funds

673
01:39:40,100 --> 01:39:41,100
because those same funds are

674
01:39:41,100 --> 01:39:42,100
not available to me

675
01:39:42,100 --> 01:39:44,100
in my district for the magic

676
01:39:44,100 --> 01:39:46,100
in the South County. Thank you.

677
01:39:46,100 --> 01:39:47,100
And I don't need

678
01:39:47,100 --> 01:39:48,100
to pull the item,

679
01:39:48,100 --> 01:39:49,100
and I just wanted to let Noel

680
01:39:49,100 --> 01:39:50,100
that I'm going

681
01:39:50,100 --> 01:39:51,100
to register a no vote

682
01:39:51,100 --> 01:39:52,100
on that.

683
01:39:52,100 --> 01:39:54,100
>> Great. And with Supervisor

684
01:39:54,100 --> 01:39:55,100
Hopkins, just want to note that

685
01:39:55,100 --> 01:39:56,100
those items actually will be

686
01:39:56,100 --> 01:39:57,100
funding some work in the

687
01:39:57,100 --> 01:39:58,100
South County. Um, it is funding

688
01:39:58,100 --> 01:39:59,100
Rebuilding Petaluma

689
01:39:59,100 --> 01:40:01,100
organization as well.

690
01:40:01,100 --> 01:40:02,100
>> So, as I read that item

691
01:40:02,100 --> 01:40:03,100
though, that Rebuilding

692
01:40:03,100 --> 01:40:04,100
Petaluma contract is

693
01:40:04,100 --> 01:40:06,100
within the D 5, again, I think

694
01:40:06,100 --> 01:40:08,100
this is a discussion that we

695
01:40:08,100 --> 01:40:11,100
need to have. These are labeled

696
01:40:11,100 --> 01:40:12,100
tourism impact funds,

697
01:40:12,100 --> 01:40:14,100
but really it's a return

698
01:40:14,100 --> 01:40:15,100
to source that needs

699
01:40:15,100 --> 01:40:16,100
to be addressed

700
01:40:16,100 --> 01:40:18,100
at the appropriate time. And

701
01:40:18,100 --> 01:40:19,100
hopefully there's 3 votes

702
01:40:19,100 --> 01:40:21,100
to change that.

703
01:40:22,100 --> 01:40:23,100
>> Well, now that we've

704
01:40:23,100 --> 01:40:24,100
properly been rained on,

705
01:40:24,100 --> 01:40:26,100
considering items 5, 10, 14,

706
01:40:27,100 --> 01:40:29,100
16 through 19, 21, 22, 24,

707
01:40:30,100 --> 01:40:32,401
require 4/5 vote. Do I

708
01:40:33,100 --> 01:40:35,100
have a motion to approve?

709
01:40:35,100 --> 01:40:37,100
>> Move to approve.

710
01:40:37,100 --> 01:40:38,100
>> Is there a second?

711
01:40:38,100 --> 01:40:40,100
>> Second.

712
01:40:40,100 --> 01:40:41,100
>> All those in favor?

713
01:40:41,100 --> 01:40:43,100
>> Aye.

714
01:40:44,100 --> 01:40:46,100
>> Any opposition? Recorded.

715
01:40:47,100 --> 01:40:49,100
Great, that motion carries.

716
01:40:49,100 --> 01:40:51,100
Item 3 through 35, number 45.

717
01:40:53,100 --> 01:40:55,100
And then is there a roll call

718
01:40:55,100 --> 01:40:57,100
vote for the Sonoma Valley?

719
01:40:57,100 --> 01:40:59,100
You want to do a motion? Is

720
01:40:59,100 --> 01:41:00,100
there a motion?

721
01:41:00,100 --> 01:41:02,100
>> Move the item.

722
01:41:02,100 --> 01:41:04,100
>> Second.

723
01:41:09,100 --> 01:41:11,100
>> For items 25 and 28, Mayor

724
01:41:11,100 --> 01:41:13,100
Wellander is absent.

725
01:41:13,100 --> 01:41:14,100
Supervisor Coursey?

726
01:41:14,100 --> 01:41:15,100
>> Yes.

727
01:41:15,100 --> 01:41:16,100
>> Chair Hermosillo?

728
01:41:16,100 --> 01:41:18,100
>> Yes. Great, thank you so

729
01:41:18,100 --> 01:41:20,100
much. And with that,

730
01:41:20,100 --> 01:41:21,100
we are going to move on

731
01:41:21,100 --> 01:41:22,100
to public comment

732
01:41:22,100 --> 01:41:24,100
on matters not listed

733
01:41:24,100 --> 01:41:25,100
on the agenda but within the

734
01:41:25,100 --> 01:41:26,100
subject matter jurisdiction of

735
01:41:26,100 --> 01:41:29,100
the board and board members'

736
01:41:29,100 --> 01:41:30,100
reports. If there's anyone who

737
01:41:30,100 --> 01:41:31,100
wishes

738
01:41:31,100 --> 01:41:33,100
to provide public comment,

739
01:41:33,100 --> 01:41:35,100
good morning, you will have 2

740
01:41:35,100 --> 01:41:37,100
minutes.

741
01:41:38,100 --> 01:41:40,100
>> Okay, good morning. My name

742
01:41:40,100 --> 01:41:41,100
is Paul Zerrer. I live in

743
01:41:41,100 --> 01:41:43,100
West Sonoma County, about 12

744
01:41:43,100 --> 01:41:45,100
miles west of the Sonoma

745
01:41:45,100 --> 01:41:47,100
County Airport. I want

746
01:41:47,100 --> 01:41:48,100
to be very clear, I support our

747
01:41:48,100 --> 01:41:51,100
airport. I support air travel

748
01:41:51,100 --> 01:41:52,100
in Sonoma County, and I'm not

749
01:41:52,100 --> 01:41:54,100
here to ask to reduce flights

750
01:41:54,100 --> 01:41:56,100
or restrict operations or

751
01:41:56,100 --> 01:41:57,100
discuss rates. I am here

752
01:41:57,100 --> 01:42:00,100
because of recent changes in

753
01:42:00,100 --> 01:42:02,100
flight patterns that are

754
01:42:02,100 --> 01:42:03,100
causing real harm to dozens

755
01:42:03,100 --> 01:42:05,401
of communities and thousands

756
01:42:06,100 --> 01:42:07,100
of people. Until recently,

757
01:42:07,100 --> 01:42:09,100
the departing flights

758
01:42:09,100 --> 01:42:10,100
from our airport followed the

759
01:42:10,100 --> 01:42:12,100
Highway 101 corridor, where

760
01:42:12,100 --> 01:42:14,401
background noise and traffic

761
01:42:15,100 --> 01:42:16,100
in city life runs to around 60

762
01:42:16,100 --> 01:42:18,401
to 75 decibels. Aircraft noise

763
01:42:19,100 --> 01:42:21,100
blended in and people barely

764
01:42:21,100 --> 01:42:22,100
noticed. A new FAA procedure

765
01:42:22,100 --> 01:42:24,401
called Redhead 1 changed all

766
01:42:26,100 --> 01:42:28,100
that. Now almost every

767
01:42:28,100 --> 01:42:29,100
departure banks west and tracks

768
01:42:29,100 --> 01:42:31,100
directly over rural West

769
01:42:31,100 --> 01:42:33,100
Sonoma County. Today, jets

770
01:42:33,100 --> 01:42:35,100
flying 2,000, 3,000 feet at

771
01:42:36,100 --> 01:42:38,100
full thrust throttle are

772
01:42:38,100 --> 01:42:39,100
passing over Sebastopol,

773
01:42:39,100 --> 01:42:41,100
Graton, Forestville,

774
01:42:41,100 --> 01:42:42,100
Freestone, Occidental,

775
01:42:42,100 --> 01:42:43,100
in thousands of residents and

776
01:42:43,100 --> 01:42:45,100
homes and farms, sometimes in

777
01:42:45,100 --> 01:42:47,100
less than 5-minute intervals.

778
01:42:47,100 --> 01:42:50,100
Acoustic science tells us that

779
01:42:50,100 --> 01:42:52,100
noise isn't about volume, it's

780
01:42:52,100 --> 01:42:54,100
about contrast. A 75-decibel

781
01:42:54,100 --> 01:42:56,401
aircraft over a 65-decibel

782
01:42:57,100 --> 01:42:59,100
highway corridor is barely

783
01:42:59,100 --> 01:43:01,401
perceptible. The same aircraft

784
01:43:02,100 --> 01:43:04,100
over a 30-decibel rural

785
01:43:04,100 --> 01:43:06,100
landscape is 45 decibels

786
01:43:06,100 --> 01:43:08,100
above normal. It's a jackhammer

787
01:43:08,100 --> 01:43:10,100
in a library. And noise

788
01:43:10,100 --> 01:43:12,100
complaints have gone from

789
01:43:12,100 --> 01:43:14,401
1,135 in 2023 to, get this,

790
01:43:17,100 --> 01:43:19,100
26,494 in 2025. We're asking 3

791
01:43:23,100 --> 01:43:25,401
things. Petition the FAA

792
01:43:26,100 --> 01:43:27,100
for a dispersal procedure

793
01:43:27,100 --> 01:43:29,401
between Redhead 1 and Charlie

794
01:43:30,100 --> 01:43:32,100
8 corridor. No fewer flights,

795
01:43:32,100 --> 01:43:33,100
just share the burden. And

796
01:43:33,100 --> 01:43:35,100
commission a formal Part 150

797
01:43:35,100 --> 01:43:37,100
noise study. And 3, the FAA

798
01:43:37,100 --> 01:43:40,100
approved Redhead One under a

799
01:43:40,100 --> 01:43:42,100
categorical exclusion.

800
01:43:43,100 --> 01:43:46,100
>> Thank you. And your time is

801
01:43:46,100 --> 01:43:48,100
up.

802
01:43:48,100 --> 01:43:49,100
>> Thank you. Do what you can.

803
01:43:49,100 --> 01:43:51,100
We appreciate it.

804
01:43:51,100 --> 01:43:53,100
>> Thank you.

805
01:43:56,100 --> 01:43:57,100
>> Hello. I thank you

806
01:43:57,100 --> 01:43:59,100
for all your efforts and time.

807
01:43:59,100 --> 01:44:01,100
My name is Guy Gullion. I live

808
01:44:01,100 --> 01:44:03,100
at 16,600 Coleman Valley

809
01:44:05,100 --> 01:44:07,100
Road, 1.7 miles west

810
01:44:07,100 --> 01:44:10,100
of the tranquil hamlet of

811
01:44:11,100 --> 01:44:13,100
Occidental. There is no finer

812
01:44:13,100 --> 01:44:14,100
place in the world than West

813
01:44:14,100 --> 01:44:16,401
Sonoma County. Idyllic, serene,

814
01:44:17,100 --> 01:44:19,100
peaceful, a place of healing

815
01:44:19,100 --> 01:44:21,100
in a world of pain. Or rather,

816
01:44:21,100 --> 01:44:24,100
it was such a place

817
01:44:24,100 --> 01:44:26,100
of healing,

818
01:44:26,100 --> 01:44:28,100
and we mourn deeply the loss.

819
01:44:28,100 --> 01:44:30,401
Tragically, in February 2024, a

820
01:44:31,100 --> 01:44:34,100
new departure route named RRHD

821
01:44:35,100 --> 01:44:38,100
or RED was imposed by the FAA

822
01:44:38,100 --> 01:44:40,100
without due process. What had

823
01:44:40,100 --> 01:44:42,100
been a dispersed departure

824
01:44:42,100 --> 01:44:44,100
route roughly tracking the 101

825
01:44:44,100 --> 01:44:45,100
corridor south, where the jets

826
01:44:45,100 --> 01:44:47,100
were just another sound

827
01:44:47,100 --> 01:44:49,401
in the urban mix,

828
01:44:50,100 --> 01:44:53,100
has been replaced by a narrow

829
01:44:53,100 --> 01:44:55,100
jet engine highway creating a

830
01:44:55,100 --> 01:44:57,100
shattered landscape and

831
01:44:58,100 --> 01:45:00,401
soundscape of 18 and counting

832
01:45:01,100 --> 01:45:03,401
jets departing Sonoma County

833
01:45:05,100 --> 01:45:07,100
Airport. It is an indifferent

834
01:45:07,100 --> 01:45:09,401
conveyor belt of industrial

835
01:45:10,100 --> 01:45:13,100
waste just thousands of feet

836
01:45:14,100 --> 01:45:17,100
above our head. West Sonoma

837
01:45:18,100 --> 01:45:20,100
County Jet Noise Coalition is a

838
01:45:20,100 --> 01:45:22,100
group of hundreds

839
01:45:22,100 --> 01:45:23,100
of people who've been meeting

840
01:45:23,100 --> 01:45:26,601
to address this issue. We are

841
01:45:27,100 --> 01:45:31,100
bet, and we have a petition of

842
01:45:31,100 --> 01:45:32,100
over 750 signatures

843
01:45:32,100 --> 01:45:33,100
on change.org begging anyone

844
01:45:33,100 --> 01:45:35,100
with the power

845
01:45:36,100 --> 01:45:37,100
to change things

846
01:45:37,100 --> 01:45:38,100
for the better

847
01:45:38,100 --> 01:45:39,100
to please do so, because it's

848
01:45:39,100 --> 01:45:41,100
getting worse rapidly. This is

849
01:45:41,100 --> 01:45:42,100
where the Board of Supervisors

850
01:45:42,100 --> 01:45:44,100
comes in. The FAA controls what

851
01:45:44,100 --> 01:45:46,100
the planes do in the air. This

852
01:45:46,100 --> 01:45:49,100
board controls how many are

853
01:45:49,100 --> 01:45:52,601
on the tarmac at the airport.

854
01:45:53,100 --> 01:45:56,100
We agree with your March 2025

855
01:45:56,100 --> 01:45:58,401
letter to the FAA,

856
01:45:59,100 --> 01:46:01,100
and we thank you so much.

857
01:46:01,100 --> 01:46:03,100
>> Thank you.

858
01:46:05,100 --> 01:46:06,100
>> Hi, I'm Kenny Meyer. I'm

859
01:46:06,100 --> 01:46:07,100
here to talk about Thomas

860
01:46:07,100 --> 01:46:09,100
Lutke's case, Sonoma County

861
01:46:09,100 --> 01:46:11,100
versus Thomas Lutke, SCV

862
01:46:11,100 --> 01:46:13,100
272556, another case from

863
01:46:13,100 --> 01:46:15,100
Sonoma County that reeks

864
01:46:15,100 --> 01:46:17,100
with fraud. You, Linda

865
01:46:17,100 --> 01:46:19,100
Hopkins, code enforcement, and

866
01:46:19,100 --> 01:46:21,100
Broderick, the civil judge,

867
01:46:21,100 --> 01:46:22,100
refused to acknowledge an

868
01:46:22,100 --> 01:46:24,100
18-inch sewer pipe running

869
01:46:24,100 --> 01:46:26,100
through Mr. Lutke's septic

870
01:46:26,100 --> 01:46:28,100
tanks across the property and

871
01:46:28,100 --> 01:46:29,100
into the Petaluma River. This

872
01:46:29,100 --> 01:46:31,100
18-inch pipe runs

873
01:46:31,100 --> 01:46:33,100
through the hills of Petaluma

874
01:46:33,100 --> 01:46:34,100
gathering sludge and

875
01:46:34,100 --> 01:46:36,401
contaminants and runs through

876
01:46:37,100 --> 01:46:39,100
Mr. Lutke's 3 septic tanks

877
01:46:39,100 --> 01:46:41,401
bringing sewage and pollution

878
01:46:42,100 --> 01:46:43,100
directly to the Petaluma

879
01:46:43,100 --> 01:46:45,100
River. If you go to permits

880
01:46:45,100 --> 01:46:47,100
from Sonoma and look up the

881
01:46:47,100 --> 01:46:49,100
permit history of 3698

882
01:46:49,100 --> 01:46:51,100
Petaluma Boulevard, you will

883
01:46:51,100 --> 01:46:53,100
not find the address or any

884
01:46:53,100 --> 01:46:54,100
permits

885
01:46:54,100 --> 01:46:57,100
on the septic or the pipes.

886
01:46:57,100 --> 01:46:59,401
The county, mainly Tyra

887
01:47:00,100 --> 01:47:01,100
Harrington, took all evidence

888
01:47:01,100 --> 01:47:03,100
of the pipe and Mr. Lutke's 3

889
01:47:03,100 --> 01:47:05,100
septic tanks off the books.

890
01:47:05,100 --> 01:47:07,100
Took, including the address.

891
01:47:07,100 --> 01:47:09,100
Broderick, the civil judge,

892
01:47:09,100 --> 01:47:11,100
refuses to see the 15 permits

893
01:47:11,100 --> 01:47:13,100
that Mr. Lutke has pulled to

894
01:47:13,100 --> 01:47:15,100
demolish these septic systems

895
01:47:15,100 --> 01:47:18,100
and the 18-inch pipe. Mr.

896
01:47:18,100 --> 01:47:19,100
Lutke intends

897
01:47:19,100 --> 01:47:21,100
to take this case to court if

898
01:47:21,100 --> 01:47:23,100
necessary. I will be hosting an

899
01:47:23,100 --> 01:47:25,100
open house to show the

900
01:47:25,100 --> 01:47:26,100
constituents that protect the

901
01:47:26,100 --> 01:47:28,100
river your lies and gross

902
01:47:28,100 --> 01:47:31,100
negligence. Your days of lying

903
01:47:32,100 --> 01:47:33,100
and harming the good people

904
01:47:33,100 --> 01:47:36,100
of Sonoma County are quickly

905
01:47:36,100 --> 01:47:37,100
coming to an end.

906
01:47:37,100 --> 01:47:39,100
>> Thank you.

907
01:47:50,100 --> 01:47:51,100
>> Supervisor Gore, you are

908
01:47:51,100 --> 01:47:52,100
horrifically racist. It's

909
01:47:52,100 --> 01:47:53,100
disgusting. Yeah, walk away.

910
01:47:53,100 --> 01:47:54,100
>> Personal attacks.

911
01:47:54,100 --> 01:47:55,100
>> No, no.

912
01:47:55,100 --> 01:47:57,100
>> Personal attacks.

913
01:47:57,100 --> 01:47:58,100
>> Please stop. That's

914
01:47:58,100 --> 01:47:59,100
disgusting. Absolutely not.

915
01:47:59,100 --> 01:48:00,100
>> That's interrupting the

916
01:48:00,100 --> 01:48:01,100
meeting.

917
01:48:01,100 --> 01:48:02,100
>> No, I'm not.

918
01:48:02,100 --> 01:48:03,100
>> You're interrupting the

919
01:48:03,100 --> 01:48:04,100
meeting.

920
01:48:04,100 --> 01:48:05,100
>> Let me talk.

921
01:48:05,100 --> 01:48:07,100
>> Pause her time. I'll remind

922
01:48:07,100 --> 01:48:08,100
you about our commitment

923
01:48:08,100 --> 01:48:10,100
to civility. If you would like

924
01:48:10,100 --> 01:48:11,100
to comment respectfully,

925
01:48:11,100 --> 01:48:13,100
please go ahead.

926
01:48:15,100 --> 01:48:16,100
>> Okay. Wow. This is why I

927
01:48:16,100 --> 01:48:17,100
don't want to live here in this

928
01:48:17,100 --> 01:48:19,100
county where we declared racism

929
01:48:19,100 --> 01:48:20,100
a public health crisis and I

930
01:48:20,100 --> 01:48:22,100
have Latina leaders telling me

931
01:48:22,100 --> 01:48:24,100
to be quiet

932
01:48:24,100 --> 01:48:26,100
to appease a racist white man,

933
01:48:26,100 --> 01:48:28,100
Dolores Huerta, right

934
01:48:28,100 --> 01:48:30,100
before this PSA came out,

935
01:48:30,100 --> 01:48:32,100
Ruth Sanchez actually filed a

936
01:48:32,100 --> 01:48:33,100
lawsuit sued

937
01:48:33,100 --> 01:48:34,100
against the foundation in

938
01:48:34,100 --> 01:48:35,100
September of 2025 because she

939
01:48:35,100 --> 01:48:37,100
claims that

940
01:48:38,100 --> 01:48:39,100
$95,000 in grant funds were

941
01:48:39,100 --> 01:48:41,100
misappropriated. She was

942
01:48:41,100 --> 01:48:43,100
working over 60 hours a week

943
01:48:43,100 --> 01:48:44,100
without meal breaks and what

944
01:48:44,100 --> 01:48:45,100
have you. So your former equity

945
01:48:45,100 --> 01:48:46,100
officer, Alegria de la Cruz,

946
01:48:46,100 --> 01:48:49,100
she was the government affairs

947
01:48:49,100 --> 01:48:51,100
director for the foundation.

948
01:48:51,100 --> 01:48:53,100
She also was on the board. So

949
01:48:53,100 --> 01:48:54,100
all of a sudden, Alegria

950
01:48:54,100 --> 01:48:56,401
leaves. She and Supervisor

951
01:48:57,100 --> 01:48:58,100
Gore founded the equity office

952
01:48:58,100 --> 01:49:00,100
here. And Alegria got run up

953
01:49:00,100 --> 01:49:02,100
out of Salinas because she

954
01:49:02,100 --> 01:49:03,100
served

955
01:49:03,100 --> 01:49:04,100
on the agricultural board,

956
01:49:04,100 --> 01:49:05,100
sold out the farm workers,

957
01:49:05,100 --> 01:49:07,100
and then came to Sonoma county

958
01:49:07,100 --> 01:49:08,100
to do the same thing. So when

959
01:49:08,100 --> 01:49:10,100
he just left,

960
01:49:10,100 --> 01:49:12,100
we were discussing the

961
01:49:12,100 --> 01:49:13,100
Agricultural verification pass,

962
01:49:13,100 --> 01:49:15,100
which Dolores Huerta, her

963
01:49:15,100 --> 01:49:17,100
foundation, supported. They

964
01:49:17,100 --> 01:49:18,100
wrote a letter

965
01:49:18,100 --> 01:49:19,100
to support that. So Alegria

966
01:49:19,100 --> 01:49:20,100
advocated for that.

967
01:49:20,100 --> 01:49:22,401
Supervisor Gore supported it.

968
01:49:23,100 --> 01:49:26,100
So when our people here,

969
01:49:26,100 --> 01:49:27,100
they evacuate

970
01:49:27,100 --> 01:49:29,100
during the fires. The farm

971
01:49:29,100 --> 01:49:30,100
workers are

972
01:49:30,100 --> 01:49:31,100
forced to continue

973
01:49:31,100 --> 01:49:33,100
to work and inhale smoke,

974
01:49:33,100 --> 01:49:34,100
and it is absolutely harmful,

975
01:49:34,100 --> 01:49:36,100
Dolores and Alegria made that

976
01:49:36,100 --> 01:49:37,100
happen, you have no sincerity

977
01:49:37,100 --> 01:49:39,100
regarding victims

978
01:49:40,100 --> 01:49:41,100
of sexual assault. I,

979
01:49:41,100 --> 01:49:42,100
I'm their advocate. I'm

980
01:49:42,100 --> 01:49:43,100
in court. You know this,

981
01:49:43,100 --> 01:49:44,100
Supervisor Hermosillo, please

982
01:49:44,100 --> 01:49:46,100
stop scapegoating the sheriffs

983
01:49:46,100 --> 01:49:47,100
with things like the

984
01:49:47,100 --> 01:49:48,100
agricultural verification pass.

985
01:49:48,100 --> 01:49:50,100
Sheriff Ingram is absolutely

986
01:49:50,100 --> 01:49:52,100
wonderful, as is his staff.

987
01:49:52,100 --> 01:49:53,100
They're one of the only

988
01:49:53,100 --> 01:49:54,100
departments whenever I have

989
01:49:54,100 --> 01:49:55,100
concerned, they get back

990
01:49:55,100 --> 01:49:56,100
to me the same day. And I also

991
01:49:56,100 --> 01:49:58,100
appreciate County Executive

992
01:49:58,100 --> 01:50:00,100
Rivera. She's been very kind

993
01:50:00,100 --> 01:50:01,100
and wonderful,

994
01:50:01,100 --> 01:50:02,100
a wonderful leader

995
01:50:02,100 --> 01:50:04,100
for your community, I thank

996
01:50:04,100 --> 01:50:05,100
you, God bless you. But that,

997
01:50:05,100 --> 01:50:06,100
that was disgusting,

998
01:50:06,100 --> 01:50:08,100
Hermosillo.

999
01:50:11,100 --> 01:50:12,100
>> Seeing no other public

1000
01:50:12,100 --> 01:50:14,100
comments on,

1001
01:50:14,100 --> 01:50:16,100
matters not listed

1002
01:50:16,100 --> 01:50:19,100
on our agenda, oh, Supervisor

1003
01:50:19,100 --> 01:50:20,100
Hopkins.

1004
01:50:20,100 --> 01:50:21,100
>> Yes, I just wanted

1005
01:50:21,100 --> 01:50:22,100
to say thank you

1006
01:50:22,100 --> 01:50:23,100
for the feedback,

1007
01:50:23,100 --> 01:50:24,100
and then we can't get

1008
01:50:24,100 --> 01:50:25,100
into a discussion, but

1009
01:50:25,100 --> 01:50:26,100
with respect

1010
01:50:26,100 --> 01:50:27,100
to the airport noise,

1011
01:50:27,100 --> 01:50:28,100
we have been

1012
01:50:28,100 --> 01:50:29,100
in communication. You know that

1013
01:50:29,100 --> 01:50:30,100
we held a joint meeting,

1014
01:50:30,100 --> 01:50:31,100
between D4 and D5. I do want

1015
01:50:31,100 --> 01:50:33,100
to note though that the number

1016
01:50:33,100 --> 01:50:34,100
of flights is actually

1017
01:50:34,100 --> 01:50:35,100
determined

1018
01:50:35,100 --> 01:50:36,100
by the general plan,

1019
01:50:36,100 --> 01:50:37,100
and we are in the process

1020
01:50:37,100 --> 01:50:38,100
of updating the general plan.

1021
01:50:38,100 --> 01:50:39,100
It's in,

1022
01:50:39,100 --> 01:50:40,100
I believe the circulation

1023
01:50:40,100 --> 01:50:41,100
element, if there is interest

1024
01:50:41,100 --> 01:50:42,100
in that issue,

1025
01:50:42,100 --> 01:50:44,100
it would be good to sort

1026
01:50:44,100 --> 01:50:45,100
of work with Permit Sonoma and

1027
01:50:45,100 --> 01:50:46,100
attend meetings on the general

1028
01:50:46,100 --> 01:50:48,100
plan update process,

1029
01:50:48,100 --> 01:50:50,100
just wanted to mention that

1030
01:50:50,100 --> 01:50:51,100
for the record. And we continue

1031
01:50:51,100 --> 01:50:53,100
to advocate with the FAA,

1032
01:50:53,100 --> 01:50:54,100
and we'll share information to

1033
01:50:54,100 --> 01:50:55,100
the group leaders who I know,

1034
01:50:55,100 --> 01:50:56,100
I also added myself to the

1035
01:50:56,100 --> 01:50:57,100
Facebook group,

1036
01:50:57,100 --> 01:50:59,100
so I am monitoring the concerns

1037
01:50:59,100 --> 01:51:01,100
on, you know, at least a

1038
01:51:01,100 --> 01:51:02,100
multiple times a week basis and

1039
01:51:02,100 --> 01:51:04,100
hear you and feel you, and,

1040
01:51:04,100 --> 01:51:07,100
and we're working on it.

1041
01:51:08,100 --> 01:51:09,100
>> Yeah, I just want

1042
01:51:09,100 --> 01:51:10,100
to add a little context

1043
01:51:10,100 --> 01:51:11,100
for that

1044
01:51:11,100 --> 01:51:12,100
for the other board members.

1045
01:51:12,100 --> 01:51:13,100
This is in partnership

1046
01:51:13,100 --> 01:51:14,100
with airport management, with

1047
01:51:14,100 --> 01:51:15,100
John Stout,

1048
01:51:15,100 --> 01:51:17,100
with the consultants. There's a

1049
01:51:17,100 --> 01:51:19,100
lot of work that's gone

1050
01:51:19,100 --> 01:51:20,100
into it. We are

1051
01:51:20,100 --> 01:51:21,100
at a point where, you know,

1052
01:51:21,100 --> 01:51:22,100
sometimes we talk

1053
01:51:22,100 --> 01:51:24,100
about disruptions

1054
01:51:24,100 --> 01:51:25,100
around the airport

1055
01:51:25,100 --> 01:51:27,100
in the sense of like, you know,

1056
01:51:27,100 --> 01:51:29,100
there's a different level of

1057
01:51:29,100 --> 01:51:31,100
nuisance versus full-blown

1058
01:51:31,100 --> 01:51:33,401
changing operations and these

1059
01:51:34,100 --> 01:51:36,100
planes banking at 100, 200,

1060
01:51:37,100 --> 01:51:39,100
300, 400, 500, you know,

1061
01:51:39,100 --> 01:51:42,100
It's, it's huge. It's, we have,

1062
01:51:42,100 --> 01:51:43,100
we have, we have gone

1063
01:51:43,100 --> 01:51:45,100
from having like, like

1064
01:51:45,100 --> 01:51:47,100
on annual, you know, hundreds

1065
01:51:47,100 --> 01:51:49,401
to thousands and thousands,

1066
01:51:51,100 --> 01:51:53,100
8,000 per year, even airport

1067
01:51:53,100 --> 01:51:55,100
management,

1068
01:51:56,100 --> 01:51:57,100
they're putting a lot

1069
01:51:57,100 --> 01:51:58,100
of staffing time

1070
01:51:58,100 --> 01:52:00,100
into managing. And this change

1071
01:52:00,100 --> 01:52:02,100
in the redhead approach, which

1072
01:52:02,100 --> 01:52:04,100
was really a federal decision

1073
01:52:04,100 --> 01:52:06,100
out of for helping the Bay

1074
01:52:06,100 --> 01:52:09,601
Area, and we just got kind

1075
01:52:10,100 --> 01:52:11,100
of the crap at the end

1076
01:52:11,100 --> 01:52:13,100
of the, the avenue. There is

1077
01:52:13,100 --> 01:52:15,100
the study process going

1078
01:52:15,100 --> 01:52:17,100
on that's being revised

1079
01:52:17,100 --> 01:52:18,100
by the Aviation Commission that

1080
01:52:18,100 --> 01:52:20,100
will probably come to us,

1081
01:52:20,100 --> 01:52:21,100
and that is going

1082
01:52:21,100 --> 01:52:22,100
to propose a new plan

1083
01:52:22,100 --> 01:52:24,100
with the FAA. Outside

1084
01:52:24,100 --> 01:52:25,100
of that,

1085
01:52:25,100 --> 01:52:26,100
we have an interim request that

1086
01:52:26,100 --> 01:52:28,401
Airport Manager Stout and

1087
01:52:29,100 --> 01:52:31,100
others are working

1088
01:52:31,100 --> 01:52:33,100
on and informing the Aviation

1089
01:52:33,100 --> 01:52:34,100
Commission, which is really

1090
01:52:34,100 --> 01:52:36,100
to put more pressure

1091
01:52:36,100 --> 01:52:37,100
on the FAA to go to,

1092
01:52:37,100 --> 01:52:39,100
to just go back

1093
01:52:39,100 --> 01:52:40,100
to what we were doing

1094
01:52:40,100 --> 01:52:41,100
before they made that change,

1095
01:52:41,100 --> 01:52:43,100
before they gave us the,

1096
01:52:43,100 --> 01:52:45,100
the ripple that is rippling

1097
01:52:45,100 --> 01:52:47,100
through our community from, I,

1098
01:52:47,100 --> 01:52:49,100
I would really say that

1099
01:52:49,100 --> 01:52:51,100
Supervisor Hopkins and I,

1100
01:52:51,100 --> 01:52:53,100
there's a difference between

1101
01:52:53,100 --> 01:52:55,100
times where we've had neighbor

1102
01:52:55,100 --> 01:52:56,100
airport neighbors and sometimes

1103
01:52:56,100 --> 01:52:58,100
we haven't been able

1104
01:52:58,100 --> 01:53:00,100
to address it. Like, I've had I

1105
01:53:00,100 --> 01:53:01,100
mean, you have all kinds,

1106
01:53:01,100 --> 01:53:02,100
but these are very germane,

1107
01:53:02,100 --> 01:53:04,100
very real, very disruptive.

1108
01:53:04,100 --> 01:53:06,100
They've really impacted new

1109
01:53:06,100 --> 01:53:08,100
cities, new routes,

1110
01:53:09,100 --> 01:53:11,100
not just the rural neighbors.

1111
01:53:11,100 --> 01:53:13,100
And so just want the board to

1112
01:53:13,100 --> 01:53:15,100
know that there'll be more that

1113
01:53:15,100 --> 01:53:16,100
comes forward,

1114
01:53:16,100 --> 01:53:17,100
but we're doing, we're looking

1115
01:53:17,100 --> 01:53:18,100
to do some articles. We're

1116
01:53:18,100 --> 01:53:20,100
looking to do the collection

1117
01:53:20,100 --> 01:53:22,100
of signatures, put pressure

1118
01:53:22,100 --> 01:53:24,100
on the FAA to allow us

1119
01:53:24,100 --> 01:53:26,100
to go back to what was what's

1120
01:53:26,100 --> 01:53:27,100
working instead

1121
01:53:27,100 --> 01:53:28,100
of just the bureaucratic no,

1122
01:53:28,100 --> 01:53:31,100
I'm glad you, you were here

1123
01:53:31,100 --> 01:53:33,100
for that. I think I just wanted

1124
01:53:33,100 --> 01:53:34,100
to take the opportunity

1125
01:53:34,100 --> 01:53:35,100
to talk with the board

1126
01:53:35,100 --> 01:53:36,100
about the action,

1127
01:53:36,100 --> 01:53:39,100
which is a combined effort.

1128
01:53:42,100 --> 01:53:43,100
>> Thank you so much. And

1129
01:53:43,100 --> 01:53:44,100
with that, we're going to go

1130
01:53:44,100 --> 01:53:46,100
on to, seeing no more comments,

1131
01:53:46,100 --> 01:53:48,100
going, to item number 36,

1132
01:53:48,100 --> 01:53:50,100
department head personnel

1133
01:53:50,100 --> 01:53:51,100
service agreement

1134
01:53:51,100 --> 01:53:53,100
for executive director

1135
01:53:53,100 --> 01:53:54,100
Community Development

1136
01:53:54,100 --> 01:53:55,100
Commission, and we have

1137
01:53:55,100 --> 01:53:57,401
Janelle Crane and Michelle

1138
01:53:58,100 --> 01:54:00,401
Whitman. Thank you, welcome.

1139
01:54:07,100 --> 01:54:08,100
>> Good morning, Chair

1140
01:54:08,100 --> 01:54:09,100
Hermosillo, members

1141
01:54:09,100 --> 01:54:10,100
of the board, CEO Rivera, and

1142
01:54:10,100 --> 01:54:11,100
Council Myers. I'm Janelle

1143
01:54:11,100 --> 01:54:12,100
Crane, the Human Resources

1144
01:54:12,100 --> 01:54:13,100
Director, and

1145
01:54:13,100 --> 01:54:15,100
with me here today is

1146
01:54:15,100 --> 01:54:17,100
Michelle Whitman, and I'm

1147
01:54:17,100 --> 01:54:18,100
pleased

1148
01:54:18,100 --> 01:54:19,100
to present a first amendment

1149
01:54:19,100 --> 01:54:20,100
to her Personal Services

1150
01:54:20,100 --> 01:54:21,100
Agreement as the Executive

1151
01:54:21,100 --> 01:54:22,100
Director of the community

1152
01:54:22,100 --> 01:54:24,100
development commission. Ms.

1153
01:54:25,100 --> 01:54:27,100
Whitman was appointed as the

1154
01:54:27,100 --> 01:54:29,100
executive director on April

1155
01:54:29,100 --> 01:54:31,100
18, 2023, and this amendment

1156
01:54:32,100 --> 01:54:33,100
extends the term

1157
01:54:33,100 --> 01:54:35,100
of that agreement through

1158
01:54:35,100 --> 01:54:37,401
April 18th of 2029. The

1159
01:54:39,100 --> 01:54:40,100
executive director of the

1160
01:54:40,100 --> 01:54:41,100
Sonoma County Community

1161
01:54:41,100 --> 01:54:42,100
Develop Commission is appointed

1162
01:54:42,100 --> 01:54:43,100
by and reports to the county

1163
01:54:43,100 --> 01:54:45,100
executive and is responsible

1164
01:54:45,100 --> 01:54:47,100
for organizing,

1165
01:54:47,100 --> 01:54:48,100
directing and coordinating the

1166
01:54:48,100 --> 01:54:50,100
Community Development

1167
01:54:51,100 --> 01:54:53,100
Commission's programs and

1168
01:54:54,100 --> 01:54:55,100
operations. This first

1169
01:54:55,100 --> 01:54:56,100
amendment to the Personal

1170
01:54:56,100 --> 01:54:57,100
services agreement places Ms.

1171
01:54:57,100 --> 01:54:59,100
Whitman's salary at the I step

1172
01:54:59,100 --> 01:55:00,100
of the salary range, which is

1173
01:55:00,100 --> 01:55:02,100
$240,186 annually, again

1174
01:55:04,100 --> 01:55:06,100
with a term ending on April

1175
01:55:06,100 --> 01:55:08,100
18, 2029, and maintaining

1176
01:55:08,100 --> 01:55:09,100
eligibility

1177
01:55:09,100 --> 01:55:11,100
for other county benefits

1178
01:55:11,100 --> 01:55:12,100
in accordance

1179
01:55:12,100 --> 01:55:13,100
with the salary resolution.

1180
01:55:13,100 --> 01:55:15,100
And Ms. Whitman is here, and

1181
01:55:15,100 --> 01:55:16,100
I'm here if you have any

1182
01:55:16,100 --> 01:55:18,100
questions.

1183
01:55:18,100 --> 01:55:20,401
>> Great. Thank you. Public

1184
01:55:21,100 --> 01:55:22,100
comment on agenda item number

1185
01:55:22,100 --> 01:55:24,100
36. Yes, Supervisor Gore,

1186
01:55:25,100 --> 01:55:26,100
you're right. We'll get

1187
01:55:26,100 --> 01:55:27,100
to that

1188
01:55:27,100 --> 01:55:30,100
in just a hot minute.

1189
01:55:31,100 --> 01:55:32,100
>> Chair Hermosillo, members

1190
01:55:32,100 --> 01:55:33,100
of the board, my name is

1191
01:55:33,100 --> 01:55:35,100
Gregory Ferrin. As most

1192
01:55:35,100 --> 01:55:36,100
of you know,

1193
01:55:36,100 --> 01:55:37,100
I've been involved

1194
01:55:37,100 --> 01:55:38,100
in homeless housing and housing

1195
01:55:38,100 --> 01:55:39,100
in general for a long time and

1196
01:55:39,100 --> 01:55:41,100
been an advocate of trying to

1197
01:55:41,100 --> 01:55:42,100
bring the city and the county

1198
01:55:42,100 --> 01:55:43,100
and everybody else together.

1199
01:55:43,100 --> 01:55:46,601
You also may know I'm also

1200
01:55:48,100 --> 01:55:49,100
on the Housing Authority

1201
01:55:49,100 --> 01:55:50,100
for the City of Santa Rosa.

1202
01:55:50,100 --> 01:55:51,100
And in that capacity and

1203
01:55:51,100 --> 01:55:52,100
in other capacities,

1204
01:55:52,100 --> 01:55:53,100
I've worked with Michelle and

1205
01:55:53,100 --> 01:55:54,100
with the Community

1206
01:55:54,100 --> 01:55:55,100
Development Commission

1207
01:55:55,100 --> 01:55:56,100
for a long time. And I'm happy

1208
01:55:56,100 --> 01:55:57,100
that she's going to continue

1209
01:55:57,100 --> 01:55:59,100
to work with us. We've got to

1210
01:55:59,100 --> 01:56:01,100
build a bigger continuum and a

1211
01:56:01,100 --> 01:56:02,100
lot more people collaborating

1212
01:56:02,100 --> 01:56:04,100
if we're going to get

1213
01:56:04,100 --> 01:56:05,100
through the next few years.

1214
01:56:05,100 --> 01:56:06,100
And I look forward to working

1215
01:56:06,100 --> 01:56:07,100
with her and her staff greatly.

1216
01:56:07,100 --> 01:56:09,100
Thank you.

1217
01:56:10,100 --> 01:56:12,100
>> Thank you. Seeing no other

1218
01:56:12,100 --> 01:56:13,100
public comment,

1219
01:56:13,100 --> 01:56:15,100
I'll bring it back

1220
01:56:15,100 --> 01:56:16,100
to the board. Supervisor

1221
01:56:16,100 --> 01:56:18,100
Hopkins.

1222
01:56:18,100 --> 01:56:19,100
>> I just want to say that one

1223
01:56:19,100 --> 01:56:20,100
of the greatest joys of being

1224
01:56:20,100 --> 01:56:21,100
in my position is getting

1225
01:56:21,100 --> 01:56:22,100
to work

1226
01:56:22,100 --> 01:56:23,100
with people who have the heart,

1227
01:56:23,100 --> 01:56:24,100
the natural talent,

1228
01:56:24,100 --> 01:56:25,100
and the experience

1229
01:56:25,100 --> 01:56:26,100
for the work. And you bring all

1230
01:56:26,100 --> 01:56:27,100
of that, and you do such a

1231
01:56:27,100 --> 01:56:29,100
wonderful job stewarding this

1232
01:56:29,100 --> 01:56:30,100
department and really working

1233
01:56:30,100 --> 01:56:32,100
with all of our county and city

1234
01:56:32,100 --> 01:56:34,100
partners. And so thank you so

1235
01:56:34,100 --> 01:56:35,100
much for your dedication and

1236
01:56:35,100 --> 01:56:37,100
for what I know can sometimes

1237
01:56:37,100 --> 01:56:38,100
be long days and sleepless

1238
01:56:38,100 --> 01:56:40,100
nights and appreciate the

1239
01:56:40,100 --> 01:56:41,100
sacrifice that comes

1240
01:56:41,100 --> 01:56:43,401
with it as well.

1241
01:56:45,100 --> 01:56:46,100
>> Supervisor . Vice Chair

1242
01:56:46,100 --> 01:56:48,100
Coursey .

1243
01:56:48,100 --> 01:56:49,100
>> Thanks for all you do,

1244
01:56:49,100 --> 01:56:51,100
Michelle. Chair Hermosillo,

1245
01:56:52,100 --> 01:56:53,100
when you're ready. I'll move

1246
01:56:53,100 --> 01:56:54,100
this item.

1247
01:56:54,100 --> 01:56:55,100
>> Great. I just want

1248
01:56:55,100 --> 01:56:57,100
to supervise. We will get there

1249
01:56:57,100 --> 01:56:58,100
in just one second. Look

1250
01:56:58,100 --> 01:57:00,100
at us.

1251
01:57:01,100 --> 01:57:02,100
>> I can't help but just say

1252
01:57:02,100 --> 01:57:03,100
thank you

1253
01:57:03,100 --> 01:57:04,100
for all the great work,

1254
01:57:04,100 --> 01:57:05,100
Michelle. And I'm a big fan and

1255
01:57:05,100 --> 01:57:06,100
I'm so glad that you are

1256
01:57:06,100 --> 01:57:07,100
in this position.

1257
01:57:07,100 --> 01:57:08,100
>> Just great work.

1258
01:57:08,100 --> 01:57:10,100
>> A lot of moving pieces,

1259
01:57:10,100 --> 01:57:12,401
especially with all everything

1260
01:57:14,100 --> 01:57:15,100
at the state and certainly the

1261
01:57:15,100 --> 01:57:17,100
federal government.

1262
01:57:17,100 --> 01:57:20,100
But you've been on top of it

1263
01:57:20,100 --> 01:57:22,100
constantly and just totally

1264
01:57:22,100 --> 01:57:24,100
appreciate your work and look

1265
01:57:24,100 --> 01:57:25,100
forward to continuing working

1266
01:57:25,100 --> 01:57:27,100
together.

1267
01:57:28,100 --> 01:57:29,100
>> And I super seeing none.

1268
01:57:29,100 --> 01:57:32,601
None. Yep. Right. What does one

1269
01:57:34,100 --> 01:57:36,100
say? I just want to thank you

1270
01:57:36,100 --> 01:57:38,100
for your collaboration, your

1271
01:57:38,100 --> 01:57:40,100
leadership, your commitment

1272
01:57:40,100 --> 01:57:43,100
to our community. Some of the

1273
01:57:43,100 --> 01:57:45,100
work that you do is really

1274
01:57:45,100 --> 01:57:46,100
essential to ensuring that

1275
01:57:46,100 --> 01:57:48,100
families remain stable

1276
01:57:48,100 --> 01:57:50,100
in their homes. And it's a lot

1277
01:57:50,100 --> 01:57:52,100
of hard work that is often hard

1278
01:57:52,100 --> 01:57:55,100
to leave at the office. So

1279
01:57:55,100 --> 01:57:56,100
thank you

1280
01:57:56,100 --> 01:57:58,100
for all that you do. And

1281
01:57:58,100 --> 01:57:59,100
with that,

1282
01:57:59,100 --> 01:58:01,100
is there a motion?

1283
01:58:01,100 --> 01:58:02,100
>> Yes.

1284
01:58:02,100 --> 01:58:04,100
>> Second.

1285
01:58:08,100 --> 01:58:10,100
>> We'll call vote.

1286
01:58:12,100 --> 01:58:13,100
>> Supervisor Rabbitt.

1287
01:58:13,100 --> 01:58:14,100
>> Aye.

1288
01:58:14,100 --> 01:58:15,100
>> Supervisor Coursey?

1289
01:58:15,100 --> 01:58:16,100
>> Yes.

1290
01:58:16,100 --> 01:58:17,100
>> Supervisor Gore?

1291
01:58:17,100 --> 01:58:19,100
>> Yes.

1292
01:58:19,100 --> 01:58:20,100
>> Supervisor Hopkins.

1293
01:58:20,100 --> 01:58:22,100
>> Absolutely.

1294
01:58:22,100 --> 01:58:23,100
>> Chair Hermosillo.

1295
01:58:23,100 --> 01:58:24,100
>> Yes. And with that,

1296
01:58:24,100 --> 01:58:25,100
Supervisor Gore had started.

1297
01:58:25,100 --> 01:58:27,401
Thank you so much.

1298
01:58:37,100 --> 01:58:39,100
Consolidated fee hearings,

1299
01:58:42,100 --> 01:58:44,401
item 37. We have Andrew

1300
01:58:45,100 --> 01:58:48,100
McLaughlin. We have. Oh, you're

1301
01:58:49,100 --> 01:58:51,100
going to kick us off. Great.

1302
01:58:51,100 --> 01:58:53,100
Thank you.

1303
01:59:44,100 --> 01:59:46,100
>> Good morning. Go for it.

1304
01:59:46,100 --> 01:59:47,100
Take it away.

1305
01:59:47,100 --> 01:59:49,100
>> Thank you. Good morning,

1306
01:59:49,100 --> 01:59:51,100
Chair Hermosillo and members

1307
01:59:51,100 --> 01:59:53,100
of the board, County Council

1308
01:59:53,100 --> 01:59:55,100
Myers and CEO Rivera. My name

1309
01:59:55,100 --> 01:59:58,100
is Andrew McLaughlin. I'm an

1310
01:59:58,100 --> 02:00:00,100
analyst in the operations and

1311
02:00:00,100 --> 02:00:01,100
budget unit

1312
02:00:01,100 --> 02:00:03,100
in the CEO's office. I work

1313
02:00:03,100 --> 02:00:05,100
for Peter Bruland, who

1314
02:00:05,100 --> 02:00:07,100
in years gone

1315
02:00:07,100 --> 02:00:08,100
by gives this presentation.

1316
02:00:08,100 --> 02:00:10,100
But he, he handed me the

1317
02:00:10,100 --> 02:00:11,100
winning lottery ticket this

1318
02:00:11,100 --> 02:00:13,100
year so.

1319
02:00:13,100 --> 02:00:14,100
>> I can see him just staring

1320
02:00:14,100 --> 02:00:15,100
at the back

1321
02:00:15,100 --> 02:00:16,100
of your head right now.

1322
02:00:16,100 --> 02:00:17,100
>> Not judging,

1323
02:00:17,100 --> 02:00:19,100
not listening critically.

1324
02:00:19,100 --> 02:00:20,100
>> You'll be just fine.

1325
02:00:20,100 --> 02:00:21,100
>> Did you pre-plan any jokes

1326
02:00:21,100 --> 02:00:22,100
though? That's the big thing.

1327
02:00:22,100 --> 02:00:23,100
>> I lack his immediacy

1328
02:00:23,100 --> 02:00:25,100
of wit, and I do

1329
02:00:25,100 --> 02:00:27,100
like the pencil,

1330
02:00:27,100 --> 02:00:29,100
but maybe I'll. Maybe I'll get

1331
02:00:29,100 --> 02:00:31,100
there next year.

1332
02:00:31,100 --> 02:00:32,100
>> Yeah, you calculate you're

1333
02:00:32,100 --> 02:00:33,100
ready.

1334
02:00:33,100 --> 02:00:34,100
>> I'm ready to go with my

1335
02:00:34,100 --> 02:00:37,100
pencil. So, yeah, we'll walk

1336
02:00:37,100 --> 02:00:39,100
through the presentation I have

1337
02:00:39,100 --> 02:00:42,100
prepared here. You not really

1338
02:00:43,100 --> 02:00:44,100
strangers

1339
02:00:44,100 --> 02:00:45,100
to what we're doing here today.

1340
02:00:45,100 --> 02:00:47,100
Every year,

1341
02:00:48,100 --> 02:00:49,100
departments that charge fees

1342
02:00:49,100 --> 02:00:51,401
for services bring items

1343
02:00:52,100 --> 02:00:54,100
forward to make adjustments

1344
02:00:54,100 --> 02:00:56,100
to their. To their fees. Our

1345
02:00:56,100 --> 02:00:58,100
office consolidates those

1346
02:00:59,100 --> 02:01:02,100
items, bundles them up and

1347
02:01:02,100 --> 02:01:05,100
presents them here today. And

1348
02:01:09,100 --> 02:01:12,100
so what I'll be walking you all

1349
02:01:12,100 --> 02:01:13,100
through today is an overview of

1350
02:01:13,100 --> 02:01:15,100
those items as briefly as I

1351
02:01:15,100 --> 02:01:17,100
can, a discussion

1352
02:01:17,100 --> 02:01:19,100
of the changes, the additional

1353
02:01:19,100 --> 02:01:20,100
revenue that's expected or not,

1354
02:01:20,100 --> 02:01:22,100
and then we'll make a

1355
02:01:22,100 --> 02:01:24,100
recommended action. So

1356
02:01:24,100 --> 02:01:28,201
off we go. There we go. So,

1357
02:01:33,100 --> 02:01:36,100
yeah, why do we do this? We

1358
02:01:36,100 --> 02:01:39,100
bring this fee hearing package

1359
02:01:40,100 --> 02:01:41,100
item forward in the spring so

1360
02:01:41,100 --> 02:01:42,100
that departments can include

1361
02:01:42,100 --> 02:01:44,100
the additional revenue that

1362
02:01:44,100 --> 02:01:45,100
they project to receive

1363
02:01:45,100 --> 02:01:47,401
into the recommended budgets

1364
02:01:48,100 --> 02:01:50,100
for 26, 27. So the timing is

1365
02:01:50,100 --> 02:01:52,100
good at this time of year and

1366
02:01:52,100 --> 02:01:54,401
we consolidate and bundle

1367
02:01:55,100 --> 02:01:56,100
everything for efficiency and

1368
02:01:56,100 --> 02:01:57,100
transparency. Talk about each

1369
02:01:57,100 --> 02:01:59,100
department that's bringing

1370
02:01:59,100 --> 02:02:00,100
items and where those cost

1371
02:02:00,100 --> 02:02:02,100
increases may be happening.

1372
02:02:02,100 --> 02:02:05,100
It's, it's. Yeah, it's board

1373
02:02:07,100 --> 02:02:09,401
policy that where permissible

1374
02:02:10,100 --> 02:02:12,100
by law. The fees that

1375
02:02:12,100 --> 02:02:13,100
departments charge should cover

1376
02:02:13,100 --> 02:02:15,100
all their costs of operations

1377
02:02:15,100 --> 02:02:16,100
unless they're otherwise

1378
02:02:16,100 --> 02:02:19,100
directed by your board. Fees

1379
02:02:20,100 --> 02:02:22,100
offset costs for specific

1380
02:02:22,100 --> 02:02:24,401
benefits. I'm coming forward

1381
02:02:25,100 --> 02:02:28,100
to permit Sonoma to get a

1382
02:02:28,100 --> 02:02:30,100
planning permit or an

1383
02:02:30,100 --> 02:02:31,100
inspection permit

1384
02:02:31,100 --> 02:02:32,100
for my home, or I'm going

1385
02:02:32,100 --> 02:02:34,100
to the sheriff's office

1386
02:02:34,100 --> 02:02:36,100
to get my fingerprints done for

1387
02:02:36,100 --> 02:02:37,100
a concealed carry weapons

1388
02:02:37,100 --> 02:02:38,100
permit. These are specific

1389
02:02:38,100 --> 02:02:39,100
services that are provided to

1390
02:02:39,100 --> 02:02:41,100
specific individuals or

1391
02:02:42,100 --> 02:02:43,100
organizations, not

1392
02:02:43,100 --> 02:02:45,100
to the general public. And

1393
02:02:45,100 --> 02:02:46,100
that's where you can. That's

1394
02:02:46,100 --> 02:02:49,100
where you can charge fees this

1395
02:02:49,100 --> 02:02:50,100
year. As you can see,

1396
02:02:50,100 --> 02:02:51,100
the types of changes that are

1397
02:02:51,100 --> 02:02:53,401
occurring are mostly fee

1398
02:02:54,100 --> 02:02:57,100
increases. There are some fee

1399
02:02:57,100 --> 02:02:59,100
decreases and there's some

1400
02:02:59,100 --> 02:03:00,100
elimination

1401
02:03:00,100 --> 02:03:01,100
of fees. I'll be focusing today

1402
02:03:01,100 --> 02:03:03,100
on the increases primarily,

1403
02:03:03,100 --> 02:03:06,100
and we'll look at some

1404
02:03:07,100 --> 02:03:08,100
of the other changes as well.

1405
02:03:08,100 --> 02:03:09,100
But there are about 1,000

1406
02:03:09,100 --> 02:03:11,100
changes of increase,

1407
02:03:11,100 --> 02:03:13,100
decrease or elimination. And

1408
02:03:13,100 --> 02:03:14,100
that's about what we saw last

1409
02:03:14,100 --> 02:03:16,100
year as well.

1410
02:03:16,100 --> 02:03:19,100
In round numbers, it's about

1411
02:03:19,100 --> 02:03:22,100
1,000. This is a good slide

1412
02:03:22,100 --> 02:03:23,100
to focus in on the rate

1413
02:03:23,100 --> 02:03:24,100
of increase. The blue half are

1414
02:03:24,100 --> 02:03:27,100
those fees that are increasing

1415
02:03:32,100 --> 02:03:35,100
by 3% or less. And those

1416
02:03:35,100 --> 02:03:36,100
increases are tied to the

1417
02:03:36,100 --> 02:03:38,401
salary and benefits costs,

1418
02:03:40,100 --> 02:03:41,100
primarily countywide. So that

1419
02:03:41,100 --> 02:03:43,100
is what we would really sort

1420
02:03:43,100 --> 02:03:45,100
of expect

1421
02:03:45,100 --> 02:03:46,100
to see are the majority

1422
02:03:46,100 --> 02:03:47,100
of fees tied

1423
02:03:47,100 --> 02:03:49,100
to those that type

1424
02:03:49,100 --> 02:03:50,100
of cost going up by

1425
02:03:50,100 --> 02:03:51,100
about the same amount. There

1426
02:03:51,100 --> 02:03:53,100
are some other larger

1427
02:03:53,100 --> 02:03:54,100
increases. You can see

1428
02:03:54,100 --> 02:03:56,100
about a third

1429
02:03:56,100 --> 02:03:58,100
of fees are increasing

1430
02:03:58,100 --> 02:04:00,100
by more than 10%. Why is that?

1431
02:04:00,100 --> 02:04:03,100
That is because the costs

1432
02:04:05,100 --> 02:04:07,100
for certain services, certain

1433
02:04:07,100 --> 02:04:08,100
supplies, insurance contracts,

1434
02:04:08,100 --> 02:04:11,100
all those have gone up more

1435
02:04:11,100 --> 02:04:13,100
sharply. And so those are

1436
02:04:13,100 --> 02:04:15,100
typically where we're seeing

1437
02:04:15,100 --> 02:04:18,100
larger percentages. And we can

1438
02:04:18,100 --> 02:04:20,100
dial in on those when I go

1439
02:04:20,100 --> 02:04:22,401
through each department here.

1440
02:04:23,100 --> 02:04:25,100
This table shows the projected

1441
02:04:25,100 --> 02:04:27,100
revenue that each department

1442
02:04:27,100 --> 02:04:29,100
anticipates

1443
02:04:29,100 --> 02:04:30,100
for the coming fiscal year.

1444
02:04:30,100 --> 02:04:31,100
And this is

1445
02:04:31,100 --> 02:04:32,100
in descending order

1446
02:04:32,100 --> 02:04:34,100
of revenue. Permit Sonoma

1447
02:04:34,100 --> 02:04:35,100
expects to get about 1.2

1448
02:04:35,100 --> 02:04:37,100
million. Public infrastructure

1449
02:04:38,100 --> 02:04:40,100
for the airport only expects

1450
02:04:40,100 --> 02:04:42,100
to get about a million. And it

1451
02:04:42,100 --> 02:04:43,100
goes down the line

1452
02:04:43,100 --> 02:04:44,100
from there. Health services,

1453
02:04:44,100 --> 02:04:45,100
about 300,000. Sheriff's

1454
02:04:45,100 --> 02:04:47,100
office, 25,000. Ag weights and

1455
02:04:47,100 --> 02:04:48,100
measures, about 20,000. And

1456
02:04:48,100 --> 02:04:50,100
there are two fees that our

1457
02:04:50,100 --> 02:04:51,100
office brings forward

1458
02:04:51,100 --> 02:04:54,100
on behalf of the sheriff. And

1459
02:04:54,100 --> 02:04:56,100
I'll talk about those too.

1460
02:04:56,100 --> 02:04:57,100
Those are going up by about

1461
02:04:57,100 --> 02:04:58,100
$9,000. And this amount

1462
02:04:58,100 --> 02:04:59,100
actually is almost exactly

1463
02:04:59,100 --> 02:05:01,100
identical

1464
02:05:01,100 --> 02:05:03,100
to what the amount was

1465
02:05:03,100 --> 02:05:05,100
increased by last year. It's

1466
02:05:05,100 --> 02:05:08,100
about 2.6. So here we go.

1467
02:05:10,100 --> 02:05:11,100
We'll start with Permit

1468
02:05:11,100 --> 02:05:14,100
Sonoma. Of the 614 fees that

1469
02:05:14,100 --> 02:05:16,100
are increasing, more than half

1470
02:05:16,100 --> 02:05:17,100
of those are currently

1471
02:05:17,100 --> 02:05:18,100
subsidized

1472
02:05:18,100 --> 02:05:21,100
by the general fund. 221 fees

1473
02:05:22,100 --> 02:05:24,100
are increasing by around 3%,

1474
02:05:24,100 --> 02:05:25,100
76 are increasing by 7 and

1475
02:05:25,100 --> 02:05:27,100
another 268 are increasing

1476
02:05:27,100 --> 02:05:29,100
by more than 10%. Permits

1477
02:05:29,100 --> 02:05:32,100
Sonoma is interesting in that

1478
02:05:32,100 --> 02:05:33,100
there has been an existing gap

1479
02:05:33,100 --> 02:05:36,100
between the rate of cost

1480
02:05:36,100 --> 02:05:38,100
recovery and the actual costs.

1481
02:05:38,100 --> 02:05:41,100
And this year these increases

1482
02:05:41,100 --> 02:05:42,100
are an effort to close,

1483
02:05:42,100 --> 02:05:44,401
incrementally close that gap.

1484
02:05:46,100 --> 02:05:47,100
So they're not going all the

1485
02:05:47,100 --> 02:05:48,100
way to full cost recovery,

1486
02:05:48,100 --> 02:05:50,100
but they are trying

1487
02:05:50,100 --> 02:05:51,100
to edge closer and recover more

1488
02:05:51,100 --> 02:05:53,100
of their cost

1489
02:05:53,100 --> 02:05:54,100
of doing business. The general

1490
02:05:54,100 --> 02:05:57,100
fund subsidy that has been

1491
02:05:57,100 --> 02:05:59,100
in place for Permit Sonoma will

1492
02:05:59,100 --> 02:06:00,100
remain in place, and I made a

1493
02:06:00,100 --> 02:06:03,100
note here that permits them. A

1494
02:06:03,100 --> 02:06:05,100
staff will plan to talk

1495
02:06:05,100 --> 02:06:07,100
about this more during April

1496
02:06:07,100 --> 02:06:08,100
budget workshops and you'll

1497
02:06:08,100 --> 02:06:10,100
hear more about their efforts

1498
02:06:10,100 --> 02:06:13,100
along those lines. They are

1499
02:06:16,100 --> 02:06:18,100
bringing one new fee this year

1500
02:06:18,100 --> 02:06:19,100
for the fully burned hourly

1501
02:06:19,100 --> 02:06:21,100
rate for a new professional

1502
02:06:21,100 --> 02:06:23,401
geologist position. We'll move

1503
02:06:24,100 --> 02:06:27,601
on to Pie, which is the

1504
02:06:29,100 --> 02:06:31,401
airport. You probably already

1505
02:06:32,100 --> 02:06:33,100
know that the airport is an

1506
02:06:33,100 --> 02:06:35,100
enterprise and operates

1507
02:06:35,100 --> 02:06:36,100
at full cost recovery. They

1508
02:06:36,100 --> 02:06:37,100
don't receive any discretionary

1509
02:06:37,100 --> 02:06:39,100
general fund support. They have

1510
02:06:39,100 --> 02:06:41,100
87 fees increasing. The median

1511
02:06:41,100 --> 02:06:43,100
rate is 8% this year. Last year

1512
02:06:43,100 --> 02:06:45,100
was about 6.8%. The airport has

1513
02:06:45,100 --> 02:06:46,100
done sort

1514
02:06:46,100 --> 02:06:49,100
of a similar systems comparison

1515
02:06:50,100 --> 02:06:52,100
to other airports

1516
02:06:52,100 --> 02:06:55,100
in the region, Santa Barbara,

1517
02:06:56,100 --> 02:06:58,100
SLO, Monterey, et cetera,

1518
02:06:58,100 --> 02:07:00,100
and found that they are

1519
02:07:00,100 --> 02:07:02,100
about middle of the pack

1520
02:07:02,100 --> 02:07:04,100
for their cost of business and

1521
02:07:04,100 --> 02:07:05,100
the fees that they're charging.

1522
02:07:05,100 --> 02:07:07,100
They are recommending the

1523
02:07:07,100 --> 02:07:09,100
implementation of 13 new fees

1524
02:07:09,100 --> 02:07:11,100
for terminal advertising,

1525
02:07:11,100 --> 02:07:12,100
ground leases,

1526
02:07:12,100 --> 02:07:14,401
special events. Most revenue

1527
02:07:15,100 --> 02:07:18,100
that they are anticipating is

1528
02:07:18,100 --> 02:07:19,100
associated with terminal rates

1529
02:07:19,100 --> 02:07:21,100
and charges and rates

1530
02:07:21,100 --> 02:07:23,401
for advertising signage. Now

1531
02:07:26,100 --> 02:07:27,100
we're moving on

1532
02:07:27,100 --> 02:07:28,100
to health services.

1533
02:07:28,100 --> 02:07:30,100
In their package,

1534
02:07:30,100 --> 02:07:32,401
they are recommending 183 fees

1535
02:07:34,100 --> 02:07:35,100
to increase

1536
02:07:35,100 --> 02:07:36,100
across four service areas.

1537
02:07:36,100 --> 02:07:38,100
Animal services,

1538
02:07:38,100 --> 02:07:40,100
the public health laboratory,

1539
02:07:40,100 --> 02:07:41,100
environmental health and

1540
02:07:41,100 --> 02:07:43,100
behavioral health. Most

1541
02:07:43,100 --> 02:07:45,401
of that 183 are increasing

1542
02:07:46,100 --> 02:07:48,100
by 3% or less. Again, those are

1543
02:07:48,100 --> 02:07:49,100
tied to the county staff

1544
02:07:49,100 --> 02:07:51,401
salaries and benefits costs.

1545
02:07:52,100 --> 02:07:54,100
Some are increasing

1546
02:07:54,100 --> 02:07:55,100
by quite a bit more than that.

1547
02:07:55,100 --> 02:07:56,100
And that's very specifically

1548
02:07:56,100 --> 02:07:58,100
because pharmaceutical costs

1549
02:07:59,100 --> 02:08:00,100
have increased,

1550
02:08:00,100 --> 02:08:02,100
vaccine costs have increased.

1551
02:08:02,100 --> 02:08:05,100
Other animal care supplies have

1552
02:08:05,100 --> 02:08:07,100
increased by more than 3%. And

1553
02:08:07,100 --> 02:08:09,100
so you see large increases

1554
02:08:09,100 --> 02:08:11,100
there. The Very specific

1555
02:08:11,100 --> 02:08:12,100
reasons why those are going up

1556
02:08:12,100 --> 02:08:15,100
that much. Health services is

1557
02:08:16,100 --> 02:08:19,100
proposing 15 new fees this year

1558
02:08:19,100 --> 02:08:20,100
for among other things,

1559
02:08:20,100 --> 02:08:21,100
cannabis dispensaries,

1560
02:08:21,100 --> 02:08:23,100
local farmers markets,

1561
02:08:23,100 --> 02:08:26,100
food safety and soft serve

1562
02:08:26,100 --> 02:08:28,100
inspections, frozen yogurt.

1563
02:08:34,100 --> 02:08:35,100
Okay, we'll go on

1564
02:08:35,100 --> 02:08:36,100
to the sheriff's office. The

1565
02:08:36,100 --> 02:08:38,100
sheriff's office charges fees,

1566
02:08:38,100 --> 02:08:39,100
as I mentioned earlier. One

1567
02:08:39,100 --> 02:08:40,100
example is fingerprinting for

1568
02:08:40,100 --> 02:08:42,100
concealed carry weapons

1569
02:08:42,100 --> 02:08:44,100
permits. They charge fees for

1570
02:08:44,100 --> 02:08:46,100
like arcades, gaming, gaming

1571
02:08:46,100 --> 02:08:48,100
centers, a number

1572
02:08:50,100 --> 02:08:51,100
of other fees. Most

1573
02:08:51,100 --> 02:08:52,100
of them are going up

1574
02:08:52,100 --> 02:08:54,100
by that sort of nominal 0

1575
02:08:54,100 --> 02:08:56,100
to 3% level. Larger increases

1576
02:08:56,100 --> 02:08:57,100
are due

1577
02:08:57,100 --> 02:09:00,100
to updated time studies. We've

1578
02:09:00,100 --> 02:09:02,100
seen increased costs for

1579
02:09:02,100 --> 02:09:04,100
vehicles and fuel and there are

1580
02:09:04,100 --> 02:09:06,100
several fees that are going up

1581
02:09:06,100 --> 02:09:08,100
to recapture some

1582
02:09:08,100 --> 02:09:10,100
of the costs associated with an

1583
02:09:10,100 --> 02:09:11,100
upgraded telecommunications

1584
02:09:11,100 --> 02:09:13,100
network. The overall

1585
02:09:13,100 --> 02:09:15,100
anticipated revenue at the

1586
02:09:15,100 --> 02:09:17,100
Sheriff's office is 24,000 and

1587
02:09:17,100 --> 02:09:19,100
that's net

1588
02:09:19,100 --> 02:09:21,100
of increases and net of other

1589
02:09:21,100 --> 02:09:22,100
decreases that are occurring

1590
02:09:22,100 --> 02:09:24,100
through their department. Ag

1591
02:09:24,100 --> 02:09:26,401
weights and measures. Here

1592
02:09:30,100 --> 02:09:33,100
again, as you can see,

1593
02:09:34,100 --> 02:09:35,100
most fees are going up by

1594
02:09:35,100 --> 02:09:36,100
about 3%. Couple are going up

1595
02:09:36,100 --> 02:09:38,100
by way more than 10%.

1596
02:09:38,100 --> 02:09:40,100
But there are specific reasons

1597
02:09:40,100 --> 02:09:43,100
for that. One large increase is

1598
02:09:43,100 --> 02:09:44,100
because of a new contract

1599
02:09:44,100 --> 02:09:45,100
for the ACELA permitting system

1600
02:09:45,100 --> 02:09:47,100
in use

1601
02:09:47,100 --> 02:09:49,100
over there and another one

1602
02:09:49,100 --> 02:09:50,100
for the Certified Unified

1603
02:09:50,100 --> 02:09:51,100
Program Agency Hazardous

1604
02:09:51,100 --> 02:09:53,100
Materials Information System.

1605
02:09:53,100 --> 02:09:55,100
Most

1606
02:09:56,100 --> 02:09:57,100
of the revenue that they expect

1607
02:09:57,100 --> 02:09:58,100
to receive in this coming

1608
02:09:58,100 --> 02:09:59,100
fiscal year is associated

1609
02:09:59,100 --> 02:10:00,100
with the Land Stewardship

1610
02:10:00,100 --> 02:10:02,100
Division, specifically Vesco.

1611
02:10:02,100 --> 02:10:04,100
This is the Vineyard and

1612
02:10:04,100 --> 02:10:07,100
Orchard program. Here's the two

1613
02:10:12,100 --> 02:10:13,100
fees that our office,

1614
02:10:13,100 --> 02:10:15,100
the county Executive's office

1615
02:10:15,100 --> 02:10:16,100
brings on behalf of the

1616
02:10:16,100 --> 02:10:17,100
Sheriff's office. These are the

1617
02:10:17,100 --> 02:10:19,100
fees pursuant

1618
02:10:21,100 --> 02:10:22,100
to state law that are

1619
02:10:22,100 --> 02:10:25,100
associated with the jail. The

1620
02:10:26,100 --> 02:10:28,100
first one is the jail booking

1621
02:10:28,100 --> 02:10:30,100
fee. This fee is, is kind

1622
02:10:30,100 --> 02:10:33,100
of unique. It's never been

1623
02:10:33,100 --> 02:10:35,100
charged because it can only be

1624
02:10:35,100 --> 02:10:37,100
charged if the state fails

1625
02:10:37,100 --> 02:10:40,100
to appropriate a certain amount

1626
02:10:40,100 --> 02:10:41,100
of funding into its enhancing

1627
02:10:41,100 --> 02:10:43,401
Law Enforcement activities sub

1628
02:10:44,100 --> 02:10:46,100
account at the state. Well,

1629
02:10:46,100 --> 02:10:47,100
they've never,

1630
02:10:47,100 --> 02:10:49,100
they've never not done that.

1631
02:10:49,100 --> 02:10:50,100
So we've never charged this

1632
02:10:50,100 --> 02:10:51,100
fee. It is legally required

1633
02:10:51,100 --> 02:10:53,100
to go up

1634
02:10:54,100 --> 02:10:57,100
by the CPI locally plus 1%.

1635
02:10:57,100 --> 02:10:58,100
For this year it's 4.3%. The

1636
02:10:58,100 --> 02:11:01,100
second fee, and I should

1637
02:11:03,100 --> 02:11:05,100
reiterate, is not going

1638
02:11:05,100 --> 02:11:07,100
to be charged. The second one

1639
02:11:07,100 --> 02:11:08,100
is the jail access fee.

1640
02:11:08,100 --> 02:11:09,100
Again, per state mandate,

1641
02:11:09,100 --> 02:11:12,100
this fee is charged to local

1642
02:11:12,100 --> 02:11:14,401
law enforcement agencies when

1643
02:11:15,100 --> 02:11:17,401
they exceed a rolling

1644
02:11:19,100 --> 02:11:21,100
three-year average

1645
02:11:23,100 --> 02:11:24,100
of non-felony sort

1646
02:11:24,100 --> 02:11:26,100
of misdemeanor offenses. And

1647
02:11:26,100 --> 02:11:28,100
even certain misdemeanors are

1648
02:11:28,100 --> 02:11:30,100
excluded. Domestic violence

1649
02:11:30,100 --> 02:11:32,100
misdemeanors, DUI misdemeanors,

1650
02:11:33,100 --> 02:11:34,100
anything. That's not that.

1651
02:11:34,100 --> 02:11:36,100
This is meant

1652
02:11:36,100 --> 02:11:38,100
to deter local law enforcement

1653
02:11:38,100 --> 02:11:40,100
from bringing people

1654
02:11:40,100 --> 02:11:41,100
to the jail sort of

1655
02:11:41,100 --> 02:11:42,100
unnecessarily when they could

1656
02:11:42,100 --> 02:11:43,100
just as easily cite and release

1657
02:11:43,100 --> 02:11:45,100
them, give them a court date.

1658
02:11:45,100 --> 02:11:46,100
And, you know,

1659
02:11:46,100 --> 02:11:48,100
it's interesting

1660
02:11:49,100 --> 02:11:51,100
to see how the rolling

1661
02:11:51,100 --> 02:11:54,100
through your average is the

1662
02:11:54,100 --> 02:11:55,100
rate at which local law

1663
02:11:55,100 --> 02:11:56,100
enforcement is exceeding that

1664
02:11:56,100 --> 02:11:57,100
average has gone

1665
02:11:57,100 --> 02:11:59,100
down as we come out of COVID

1666
02:11:59,100 --> 02:12:00,100
It's more difficult

1667
02:12:00,100 --> 02:12:02,401
to exceed your rolling

1668
02:12:05,100 --> 02:12:06,100
through your average,

1669
02:12:06,100 --> 02:12:07,100
basically. And so the sheriff's

1670
02:12:07,100 --> 02:12:09,100
office and our office

1671
02:12:09,100 --> 02:12:11,100
anticipates not that many

1672
02:12:11,100 --> 02:12:12,100
agencies going

1673
02:12:12,100 --> 02:12:14,100
above that threshold this year.

1674
02:12:14,100 --> 02:12:16,100
So the. The revenue that we

1675
02:12:16,100 --> 02:12:17,100
expect to receive

1676
02:12:17,100 --> 02:12:19,100
from that fee is quite low.

1677
02:12:19,100 --> 02:12:21,401
$9,000. I can't believe I'm

1678
02:12:27,100 --> 02:12:29,100
here already. Those are all the

1679
02:12:29,100 --> 02:12:31,100
departments that have brought

1680
02:12:31,100 --> 02:12:32,100
fees

1681
02:12:32,100 --> 02:12:33,100
in this consolidated package.

1682
02:12:33,100 --> 02:12:34,100
There were six of them just

1683
02:12:34,100 --> 02:12:36,100
to review last year. The

1684
02:12:36,100 --> 02:12:38,100
regional parks was part

1685
02:12:38,100 --> 02:12:40,100
of this. This year,

1686
02:12:40,100 --> 02:12:41,100
I think they are going

1687
02:12:41,100 --> 02:12:42,100
to be bringing their own items

1688
02:12:42,100 --> 02:12:43,100
in a few weeks, I think in

1689
02:12:43,100 --> 02:12:45,100
April. But the items

1690
02:12:45,100 --> 02:12:48,100
before you today, we recommend

1691
02:12:48,100 --> 02:12:49,100
that you approve them as they

1692
02:12:49,100 --> 02:12:52,100
are. And I think that's all.

1693
02:12:52,100 --> 02:12:54,401
Take questions or anything

1694
02:12:56,100 --> 02:12:58,100
else.

1695
02:12:58,100 --> 02:12:59,100
>> Great. Thank you so much.

1696
02:12:59,100 --> 02:13:00,100
With that, I'll bring it

1697
02:13:00,100 --> 02:13:02,100
to CEO Rivera.

1698
02:13:02,100 --> 02:13:03,100
>> Thank you, Chair, and thank

1699
02:13:03,100 --> 02:13:04,100
you, Andrew, for taking

1700
02:13:04,100 --> 02:13:05,100
on the baton this year

1701
02:13:05,100 --> 02:13:07,100
in our office. It's a great way

1702
02:13:07,100 --> 02:13:09,100
to get to know about the other

1703
02:13:09,100 --> 02:13:10,100
departments and really be able

1704
02:13:10,100 --> 02:13:11,100
to support across different

1705
02:13:11,100 --> 02:13:13,100
assignments.

1706
02:13:14,100 --> 02:13:15,100
>> Yes.

1707
02:13:15,100 --> 02:13:16,100
>> And thank you, Peter,

1708
02:13:16,100 --> 02:13:17,100
for laying

1709
02:13:17,100 --> 02:13:18,100
out such a great template

1710
02:13:18,100 --> 02:13:19,100
for years before. I want

1711
02:13:19,100 --> 02:13:20,100
to thank not only the CEO

1712
02:13:20,100 --> 02:13:22,100
of staff, but also the

1713
02:13:22,100 --> 02:13:23,100
departments who are here to

1714
02:13:23,100 --> 02:13:25,100
help answer questions and

1715
02:13:25,100 --> 02:13:26,100
listen to the conversation and

1716
02:13:26,100 --> 02:13:27,100
deliberations for this. As

1717
02:13:27,100 --> 02:13:29,100
Andrew stated, this is, if you

1718
02:13:29,100 --> 02:13:31,100
will,

1719
02:13:31,100 --> 02:13:33,401
your first action associated

1720
02:13:34,100 --> 02:13:35,100
with starting to lay

1721
02:13:35,100 --> 02:13:37,100
out the financial plan

1722
02:13:37,100 --> 02:13:39,100
into the 26-27 budget. So thank

1723
02:13:39,100 --> 02:13:41,100
you again,

1724
02:13:42,100 --> 02:13:43,100
and I'll turn it back to the

1725
02:13:43,100 --> 02:13:44,100
chair so she can open the

1726
02:13:44,100 --> 02:13:45,100
hearing. And

1727
02:13:45,100 --> 02:13:46,100
like I said before,

1728
02:13:46,100 --> 02:13:47,100
when it comes back

1729
02:13:47,100 --> 02:13:48,100
for board deliberation,

1730
02:13:48,100 --> 02:13:49,100
we do have representatives from

1731
02:13:49,100 --> 02:13:51,100
the departments who will be

1732
02:13:51,100 --> 02:13:52,100
able

1733
02:13:52,100 --> 02:13:53,100
to answer questions the board

1734
02:13:53,100 --> 02:13:55,100
may have. Thank you.

1735
02:13:55,100 --> 02:13:56,100
>> Thank you. And with that, I

1736
02:13:56,100 --> 02:13:57,100
am officially opening the

1737
02:13:57,100 --> 02:14:00,100
hearing. And if anybody would

1738
02:14:01,100 --> 02:14:02,100
like to make a comment

1739
02:14:02,100 --> 02:14:05,100
on the hearing for all items

1740
02:14:05,100 --> 02:14:07,100
37 through 43.

1741
02:14:13,100 --> 02:14:14,100
>> Chair Hermosillo, members

1742
02:14:14,100 --> 02:14:15,100
of the board, my name is

1743
02:14:15,100 --> 02:14:16,100
Gregory Ferrin. I want to give

1744
02:14:16,100 --> 02:14:17,100
you a little story that gives

1745
02:14:17,100 --> 02:14:19,100
reality to what this is all

1746
02:14:19,100 --> 02:14:20,100
about and how important this

1747
02:14:20,100 --> 02:14:23,100
hearing is. 50 years ago, when

1748
02:14:23,100 --> 02:14:25,100
I was a student body president

1749
02:14:25,100 --> 02:14:27,100
at College of Marin, students

1750
02:14:27,100 --> 02:14:28,100
came to me and said they're

1751
02:14:28,100 --> 02:14:30,100
charging two bucks a page

1752
02:14:30,100 --> 02:14:32,100
for transcripts,

1753
02:14:32,100 --> 02:14:33,100
which wasn't the cost

1754
02:14:33,100 --> 02:14:34,100
of actually making the copy,

1755
02:14:34,100 --> 02:14:36,100
but it was what they had

1756
02:14:36,100 --> 02:14:38,100
evolved with no hearing and no

1757
02:14:38,100 --> 02:14:41,100
examination. So I took them

1758
02:14:43,100 --> 02:14:44,100
to court. I filed a writ

1759
02:14:44,100 --> 02:14:45,100
of mandate in Superior Court

1760
02:14:45,100 --> 02:14:47,100
in Marin County and a judge

1761
02:14:47,100 --> 02:14:49,100
agreed with me that no one had

1762
02:14:49,100 --> 02:14:50,100
ever looked at it,

1763
02:14:50,100 --> 02:14:53,100
and he ordered four years'

1764
02:14:53,100 --> 02:14:55,100
worth of free transcripts

1765
02:14:55,100 --> 02:14:57,100
at every community college in

1766
02:14:57,100 --> 02:14:58,100
California as a result. So it's

1767
02:14:58,100 --> 02:15:00,401
important that you look

1768
02:15:01,100 --> 02:15:02,100
at how you charge fees,

1769
02:15:02,100 --> 02:15:03,100
what you charge them for and

1770
02:15:03,100 --> 02:15:05,100
what they're paying for. And I

1771
02:15:05,100 --> 02:15:07,100
thank you for this hearing

1772
02:15:07,100 --> 02:15:09,100
because it helps give light

1773
02:15:09,100 --> 02:15:11,100
to the public about what it is

1774
02:15:11,100 --> 02:15:13,100
they're being charged for.

1775
02:15:13,100 --> 02:15:15,100
Thank you.

1776
02:15:20,100 --> 02:15:22,100
>> Good morning. Ron Busch,

1777
02:15:22,100 --> 02:15:23,100
Sonoma County Fire District I

1778
02:15:23,100 --> 02:15:24,100
just want to address the fee

1779
02:15:24,100 --> 02:15:25,100
study that you're doing or the

1780
02:15:25,100 --> 02:15:26,100
fee increase for the Sonoma

1781
02:15:26,100 --> 02:15:28,100
County Airport. I'd like to

1782
02:15:28,100 --> 02:15:29,100
express my ongoing concerns

1783
02:15:29,100 --> 02:15:31,100
regarding the increased

1784
02:15:31,100 --> 02:15:32,100
funding, operational and safety

1785
02:15:32,100 --> 02:15:33,100
costs associated

1786
02:15:33,100 --> 02:15:34,100
with the STS,

1787
02:15:34,100 --> 02:15:36,100
particularly as we begin to

1788
02:15:36,100 --> 02:15:38,100
expand the commercial and

1789
02:15:38,100 --> 02:15:39,100
private aviation activity. The

1790
02:15:39,100 --> 02:15:41,100
activity levels continue

1791
02:15:41,100 --> 02:15:43,100
to grow and so does the demand

1792
02:15:43,100 --> 02:15:45,100
for fire service, emergency

1793
02:15:45,100 --> 02:15:47,100
medical response and hazardous

1794
02:15:47,100 --> 02:15:49,100
materials readiness.

1795
02:15:50,100 --> 02:15:51,100
At present,

1796
02:15:51,100 --> 02:15:52,100
a significant portion

1797
02:15:52,100 --> 02:15:53,100
of the costs are being absorbed

1798
02:15:53,100 --> 02:15:54,100
by the taxpayers of the

1799
02:15:54,100 --> 02:15:55,100
Sonoma County Fire District.

1800
02:15:55,100 --> 02:15:56,100
Without dedicated or

1801
02:15:56,100 --> 02:15:57,100
proportional funding mechanisms

1802
02:15:57,100 --> 02:15:58,100
tied

1803
02:15:58,100 --> 02:15:59,100
to the airport operations,

1804
02:15:59,100 --> 02:16:02,100
STS continues to head towards

1805
02:16:02,100 --> 02:16:04,100
1 million passengers annually

1806
02:16:04,100 --> 02:16:05,100
and the risk only increases.

1807
02:16:05,100 --> 02:16:07,401
These are high risk,

1808
02:16:08,100 --> 02:16:09,100
low frequency incidents. When a

1809
02:16:09,100 --> 02:16:11,100
commercial airlines lands hard

1810
02:16:11,100 --> 02:16:13,100
with 77 passengers,

1811
02:16:13,100 --> 02:16:14,100
there's nobody there

1812
02:16:14,100 --> 02:16:15,100
to take care of them.

1813
02:16:15,100 --> 02:16:16,100
Currently, SCFD receives no

1814
02:16:16,100 --> 02:16:18,100
revenue from the county of

1815
02:16:18,100 --> 02:16:19,100
Sonoma to respond to STS. When

1816
02:16:19,100 --> 02:16:21,100
a commercial airliner has an

1817
02:16:21,100 --> 02:16:22,100
emergency fire and emergency

1818
02:16:22,100 --> 02:16:23,100
rescue response is provided

1819
02:16:23,100 --> 02:16:25,100
by the taxpayers of the

1820
02:16:25,100 --> 02:16:26,100
Sonoma County Fire District.

1821
02:16:26,100 --> 02:16:28,401
That means we strip

1822
02:16:29,100 --> 02:16:30,100
around five or six companies

1823
02:16:30,100 --> 02:16:32,100
around the outside

1824
02:16:32,100 --> 02:16:33,100
of the airport. We're

1825
02:16:33,100 --> 02:16:34,100
in support

1826
02:16:34,100 --> 02:16:35,100
of the increased fees to STs,

1827
02:16:35,100 --> 02:16:36,100
but nowhere does it address

1828
02:16:36,100 --> 02:16:37,100
funding to the district

1829
02:16:37,100 --> 02:16:38,100
for emergency response.

1830
02:16:38,100 --> 02:16:40,100
Currently, SCFD does not

1831
02:16:40,100 --> 02:16:41,100
receive a penny

1832
02:16:41,100 --> 02:16:42,100
for any responses that occur

1833
02:16:42,100 --> 02:16:44,100
out there. We respectively

1834
02:16:44,100 --> 02:16:45,100
request some transparent,

1835
02:16:45,100 --> 02:16:47,100
detailed accounting

1836
02:16:47,100 --> 02:16:48,100
of true costs

1837
02:16:48,100 --> 02:16:50,100
of the response,

1838
02:16:50,100 --> 02:16:51,100
providing those services along

1839
02:16:51,100 --> 02:16:52,100
with comparisons

1840
02:16:52,100 --> 02:16:54,100
to funding models used

1841
02:16:54,100 --> 02:16:55,100
in similarly situated airports.

1842
02:16:55,100 --> 02:16:58,100
This is a matter of fairness

1843
02:16:58,100 --> 02:16:59,100
and physical sustainability and

1844
02:16:59,100 --> 02:17:01,100
ensuring that critical life

1845
02:17:01,100 --> 02:17:03,100
safety services remain

1846
02:17:03,100 --> 02:17:04,100
adequately resourced to the

1847
02:17:04,100 --> 02:17:05,100
communities that we serve. So I

1848
02:17:05,100 --> 02:17:06,100
just want

1849
02:17:06,100 --> 02:17:08,100
to real briefly say that we are

1850
02:17:08,100 --> 02:17:09,100
in total support. We're in good

1851
02:17:09,100 --> 02:17:11,100
collaborative conversations

1852
02:17:11,100 --> 02:17:13,100
with STS and airport

1853
02:17:13,100 --> 02:17:14,100
operations. However, we

1854
02:17:14,100 --> 02:17:16,100
received $0 to respond to the

1855
02:17:16,100 --> 02:17:18,100
airport currently and we'd

1856
02:17:18,100 --> 02:17:19,100
like to revisit that

1857
02:17:19,100 --> 02:17:21,100
at some point. So thank you.

1858
02:17:21,100 --> 02:17:23,401
>> Thank you. Anyone else?

1859
02:17:27,100 --> 02:17:28,100
Public comment

1860
02:17:28,100 --> 02:17:29,100
before we bring it

1861
02:17:29,100 --> 02:17:32,100
to the board for questions,

1862
02:17:32,100 --> 02:17:34,100
comments, deliberations,

1863
02:17:36,100 --> 02:17:37,100
Supervisor Vice Chair

1864
02:17:37,100 --> 02:17:39,100
Coursey.

1865
02:17:39,100 --> 02:17:42,100
>> Thank you. Have a couple

1866
02:17:42,100 --> 02:17:43,100
of questions for Permit

1867
02:17:43,100 --> 02:17:45,100
Sonoma.

1868
02:17:49,100 --> 02:17:50,100
>> If T. Scott Orr can skip

1869
02:17:50,100 --> 02:17:52,100
to the dais.

1870
02:17:55,100 --> 02:17:57,401
>> Good morning. Good morning

1871
02:17:59,100 --> 02:18:01,401
from Listening to Andrew's

1872
02:18:03,100 --> 02:18:05,100
presentation, it sounds

1873
02:18:12,100 --> 02:18:14,401
like permit Sonoma plans

1874
02:18:15,100 --> 02:18:16,100
to wean itself

1875
02:18:16,100 --> 02:18:18,401
from the general plan

1876
02:18:22,100 --> 02:18:23,100
to some extent, whether that's

1877
02:18:23,100 --> 02:18:26,100
full cost recovery or somewhere

1878
02:18:28,100 --> 02:18:30,100
nearer full cost recovery. And

1879
02:18:30,100 --> 02:18:31,100
I think it's important

1880
02:18:31,100 --> 02:18:32,100
to highlight that and want to

1881
02:18:32,100 --> 02:18:33,100
make sure that I understand

1882
02:18:33,100 --> 02:18:34,100
correctly that

1883
02:18:34,100 --> 02:18:35,100
in the next few years,

1884
02:18:35,100 --> 02:18:36,100
we should all expect

1885
02:18:36,100 --> 02:18:37,100
for those fees to more

1886
02:18:37,100 --> 02:18:38,100
of those fees to go higher than

1887
02:18:38,100 --> 02:18:40,100
the 3% and maybe higher than

1888
02:18:40,100 --> 02:18:41,100
that. Maybe you can talk a

1889
02:18:41,100 --> 02:18:42,100
little bit about what those

1890
02:18:42,100 --> 02:18:44,100
increases might look like and

1891
02:18:44,100 --> 02:18:46,100
how long that process is

1892
02:18:46,100 --> 02:18:48,100
expected to take.

1893
02:18:50,100 --> 02:18:51,100
>> Okay, thank you

1894
02:18:51,100 --> 02:18:52,100
for the question. So

1895
02:18:52,100 --> 02:18:55,100
for the increase this year,

1896
02:18:56,100 --> 02:18:57,100
it's largely to, you know,

1897
02:18:57,100 --> 02:18:58,100
fill the gap between the fee

1898
02:18:58,100 --> 02:19:01,100
nexus study that was approved

1899
02:19:01,100 --> 02:19:04,100
as part of the consent calendar

1900
02:19:04,100 --> 02:19:05,100
this morning, which will take

1901
02:19:05,100 --> 02:19:08,601
about a year to complete, and

1902
02:19:09,100 --> 02:19:11,100
then that will inform the board

1903
02:19:11,100 --> 02:19:13,100
on whether we do want

1904
02:19:13,100 --> 02:19:15,100
to shift towards that model of

1905
02:19:15,100 --> 02:19:16,100
full cost recovery or continue

1906
02:19:16,100 --> 02:19:18,100
to utilize some

1907
02:19:19,100 --> 02:19:21,100
of the general fund

1908
02:19:21,100 --> 02:19:24,100
to help bridge the gap between

1909
02:19:24,100 --> 02:19:25,100
what the fees ultimately end up

1910
02:19:25,100 --> 02:19:26,100
being and the cost

1911
02:19:26,100 --> 02:19:28,100
to provide service. So while we

1912
02:19:28,100 --> 02:19:29,100
are taking the incremental

1913
02:19:29,100 --> 02:19:30,100
approach this year, ultimately,

1914
02:19:30,100 --> 02:19:32,100
we'll bring it back in front

1915
02:19:32,100 --> 02:19:34,100
of the board

1916
02:19:34,100 --> 02:19:35,100
for the full discussion

1917
02:19:35,100 --> 02:19:36,100
about whether we want to go to

1918
02:19:36,100 --> 02:19:37,100
that full cost recovery model.

1919
02:19:37,100 --> 02:19:40,100
So the decision being made

1920
02:19:41,100 --> 02:19:42,100
today does get us closer,

1921
02:19:42,100 --> 02:19:44,100
but it doesn't kind

1922
02:19:44,100 --> 02:19:47,100
of mandate any future decision

1923
02:19:47,100 --> 02:19:48,100
by the board regarding that.

1924
02:19:48,100 --> 02:19:50,401
>> You'll bring the results

1925
02:19:51,100 --> 02:19:52,100
of that fee study back and

1926
02:19:52,100 --> 02:19:54,100
check to see what the appetite

1927
02:19:54,100 --> 02:19:55,100
of the board is.

1928
02:19:55,100 --> 02:19:57,100
At what point,

1929
02:19:57,100 --> 02:19:58,100
how long do you expect that

1930
02:19:58,100 --> 02:19:59,100
to take?

1931
02:19:59,100 --> 02:20:00,100
>> So the fee study process

1932
02:20:00,100 --> 02:20:01,100
will take about a year. So the

1933
02:20:01,100 --> 02:20:02,100
intent is that we finish

1934
02:20:02,100 --> 02:20:05,100
in time to inform the fee

1935
02:20:05,100 --> 02:20:07,100
process and budget process next

1936
02:20:07,100 --> 02:20:10,100
fiscal year. So the fees that

1937
02:20:10,100 --> 02:20:13,601
are reflected in that fee study

1938
02:20:14,100 --> 02:20:17,100
would inform fiscal year 27-28.

1939
02:20:18,100 --> 02:20:19,100
>> All right, in.

1940
02:20:19,100 --> 02:20:22,601
In your report on this, you

1941
02:20:23,100 --> 02:20:26,100
said that there would be a

1942
02:20:26,100 --> 02:20:28,401
shortfall of about 3.7 million

1943
02:20:29,100 --> 02:20:31,100
by the end of this fiscal year

1944
02:20:31,100 --> 02:20:33,100
and potentially as high as

1945
02:20:33,100 --> 02:20:35,100
$4.5 million by the end

1946
02:20:35,100 --> 02:20:38,100
of next fiscal year. Was that.

1947
02:20:38,100 --> 02:20:41,601
Are those numbers the result of

1948
02:20:42,100 --> 02:20:45,601
these actions today or has if

1949
02:20:46,100 --> 02:20:47,100
we approve this,

1950
02:20:47,100 --> 02:20:49,401
what's brought forward today,

1951
02:20:50,100 --> 02:20:52,100
do those numbers change?

1952
02:20:52,100 --> 02:20:53,100
>> So Interim Assistant

1953
02:20:53,100 --> 02:20:55,100
director Michelle Arellano will

1954
02:20:55,100 --> 02:20:56,100
correct me, but I believe all

1955
02:20:56,100 --> 02:20:58,100
of the estimates were with the

1956
02:20:58,100 --> 02:21:00,100
expectation that the

1957
02:21:00,100 --> 02:21:01,100
recommended action was taken

1958
02:21:01,100 --> 02:21:03,100
and that they were approved.

1959
02:21:03,100 --> 02:21:05,100
>> Correct.

1960
02:21:07,100 --> 02:21:08,100
>> She says correct.

1961
02:21:08,100 --> 02:21:10,100
>> Good. Good job. Thank you

1962
02:21:10,100 --> 02:21:12,100
both.

1963
02:21:13,100 --> 02:21:15,100
>> Any other questions?

1964
02:21:15,100 --> 02:21:16,100
Comments from my colleague,

1965
02:21:16,100 --> 02:21:17,100
Supervisor Rabbitt?

1966
02:21:17,100 --> 02:21:18,100
>> Yeah. No, thank you. Thank

1967
02:21:18,100 --> 02:21:20,100
you, Andrew, for all the great

1968
02:21:20,100 --> 02:21:22,100
work. I appreciate that. Thank

1969
02:21:22,100 --> 02:21:24,100
you for the briefing that you

1970
02:21:24,100 --> 02:21:26,100
provided me and to Peter

1971
02:21:26,100 --> 02:21:27,100
for joining that as well. Fees

1972
02:21:27,100 --> 02:21:29,100
have always been

1973
02:21:29,100 --> 02:21:31,100
for me an important topic. And

1974
02:21:31,100 --> 02:21:32,100
I appreciate the fact that many

1975
02:21:32,100 --> 02:21:33,100
years ago we brought forward a

1976
02:21:33,100 --> 02:21:35,100
fee policy that basically had

1977
02:21:35,100 --> 02:21:36,100
departments justify any

1978
02:21:36,100 --> 02:21:37,100
increase

1979
02:21:37,100 --> 02:21:39,100
over admittedly the higher

1980
02:21:39,100 --> 02:21:40,100
of the two, which is the Bay

1981
02:21:40,100 --> 02:21:44,100
Area CPI and or the county cpi.

1982
02:21:44,100 --> 02:21:46,100
And you mentioned that. I mean

1983
02:21:46,100 --> 02:21:48,100
the county or the Bay Area CPI

1984
02:21:48,100 --> 02:21:50,100
I think for the last 12 months

1985
02:21:50,100 --> 02:21:51,100
was only two and a half

1986
02:21:51,100 --> 02:21:53,100
percent. I mean it was higher

1987
02:21:53,100 --> 02:21:55,100
previous years. Going forward,

1988
02:21:55,100 --> 02:21:57,100
I do think it's important

1989
02:21:57,100 --> 02:21:58,100
to kind of keep note

1990
02:21:58,100 --> 02:21:59,100
of that because so many

1991
02:21:59,100 --> 02:22:00,100
of our fees are not driven

1992
02:22:00,100 --> 02:22:03,100
by any market force. There are

1993
02:22:03,100 --> 02:22:06,100
a few veterans building rentals

1994
02:22:07,100 --> 02:22:09,100
and over the years we've had to

1995
02:22:09,100 --> 02:22:10,100
adjust those because we became

1996
02:22:10,100 --> 02:22:11,100
noncompetitive with other

1997
02:22:11,100 --> 02:22:13,100
options. I don't know if the

1998
02:22:13,100 --> 02:22:14,100
same, well,

1999
02:22:14,100 --> 02:22:16,100
the airport perhaps

2000
02:22:16,100 --> 02:22:17,100
in hangars,

2001
02:22:17,100 --> 02:22:19,100
people having the opportunity

2002
02:22:19,100 --> 02:22:20,100
to go to other airports,

2003
02:22:20,100 --> 02:22:21,100
municipal airports and whatnot.

2004
02:22:21,100 --> 02:22:23,100
So I just think it's important

2005
02:22:23,100 --> 02:22:24,100
to kind of keep that

2006
02:22:24,100 --> 02:22:25,100
in the back

2007
02:22:25,100 --> 02:22:27,100
of our mind as we go forward.

2008
02:22:27,100 --> 02:22:28,100
And you mentioned, of course,

2009
02:22:28,100 --> 02:22:29,100
there's been an incredible

2010
02:22:29,100 --> 02:22:31,100
increase in overall costs,

2011
02:22:31,100 --> 02:22:32,100
especially the insurance

2012
02:22:32,100 --> 02:22:34,100
conundrum. But that insurance

2013
02:22:34,100 --> 02:22:36,100
conundrum is also embedded

2014
02:22:36,100 --> 02:22:37,100
in that two and a half. And

2015
02:22:37,100 --> 02:22:39,100
even if you look at wages and

2016
02:22:39,100 --> 02:22:40,100
benefits and whatnot,

2017
02:22:40,100 --> 02:22:41,100
it's also embedded

2018
02:22:41,100 --> 02:22:43,100
in that and people had

2019
02:22:43,100 --> 02:22:44,100
to absorb a lot

2020
02:22:44,100 --> 02:22:47,100
of those costs. It will burst

2021
02:22:47,100 --> 02:22:48,100
through at some point in the

2022
02:22:48,100 --> 02:22:49,100
future as economics dictate.

2023
02:22:49,100 --> 02:22:52,100
But I do think it's important

2024
02:22:52,100 --> 02:22:54,100
that piece I'm supportive of

2025
02:22:54,100 --> 02:22:56,100
going forward today. I

2026
02:22:56,100 --> 02:22:57,100
appreciate the fact that

2027
02:22:57,100 --> 02:22:59,401
departments kept things within.

2028
02:23:00,100 --> 02:23:01,100
I think everyone expects things

2029
02:23:01,100 --> 02:23:03,100
year over year to go up. They

2030
02:23:03,100 --> 02:23:05,100
may grumble as we all do. I do.

2031
02:23:05,100 --> 02:23:06,100
But

2032
02:23:06,100 --> 02:23:09,100
at the same time we all expect

2033
02:23:09,100 --> 02:23:10,100
to make more money year

2034
02:23:10,100 --> 02:23:12,100
over year. So we can't be

2035
02:23:12,100 --> 02:23:13,100
hypocrites

2036
02:23:13,100 --> 02:23:14,100
about costs going up. It's when

2037
02:23:14,100 --> 02:23:16,100
they go up, you know,

2038
02:23:16,100 --> 02:23:18,100
really high

2039
02:23:19,100 --> 02:23:20,100
for the same service. And just

2040
02:23:20,100 --> 02:23:23,100
to be able to look at that with

2041
02:23:23,100 --> 02:23:24,100
a fine-tooth comb and make sure

2042
02:23:24,100 --> 02:23:25,100
that we understand that. And

2043
02:23:25,100 --> 02:23:27,100
every year I know that we have

2044
02:23:27,100 --> 02:23:28,100
fees, we have regulatory

2045
02:23:28,100 --> 02:23:30,401
obligations that are passed

2046
02:23:31,100 --> 02:23:32,100
down

2047
02:23:32,100 --> 02:23:33,100
to us that increase our fees.

2048
02:23:33,100 --> 02:23:35,100
And I know that some of these

2049
02:23:35,100 --> 02:23:37,100
fees are also are dictated

2050
02:23:37,100 --> 02:23:38,100
by other material costs like

2051
02:23:38,100 --> 02:23:40,401
health lab stuff that's

2052
02:23:41,100 --> 02:23:43,100
happening and just the ability

2053
02:23:43,100 --> 02:23:44,100
to buy all those materials. So

2054
02:23:44,100 --> 02:23:47,601
with that said, I also very

2055
02:23:48,100 --> 02:23:51,100
much appreciate the quality fee

2056
02:23:51,100 --> 02:23:53,100
studies that are not numerator

2057
02:23:53,100 --> 02:23:55,100
over denominator because I

2058
02:23:55,100 --> 02:23:58,100
think that for years after

2059
02:23:58,100 --> 02:23:59,100
Prop 13, I think that was the

2060
02:23:59,100 --> 02:24:00,100
crutch that a lot of cities and

2061
02:24:00,100 --> 02:24:02,100
undoubtedly the county used

2062
02:24:02,100 --> 02:24:04,100
to set fees. But if the fee is

2063
02:24:04,100 --> 02:24:06,100
set correctly, it can be

2064
02:24:06,100 --> 02:24:07,100
adjusted correctly going

2065
02:24:07,100 --> 02:24:08,100
forward based upon the County

2066
02:24:08,100 --> 02:24:11,100
CPI based upon the additional

2067
02:24:12,100 --> 02:24:13,100
material costs. And it can be

2068
02:24:13,100 --> 02:24:15,100
something that we can really

2069
02:24:15,100 --> 02:24:16,100
turn to someone and say, this

2070
02:24:16,100 --> 02:24:18,100
is why that fee is justified

2071
02:24:18,100 --> 02:24:20,100
going forward. So I just wanted

2072
02:24:20,100 --> 02:24:22,100
to put that out there. The

2073
02:24:22,100 --> 02:24:24,100
other thing we talked briefly

2074
02:24:24,100 --> 02:24:25,100
about,

2075
02:24:25,100 --> 02:24:26,100
and I know it's not going

2076
02:24:26,100 --> 02:24:27,100
to be a topic today,

2077
02:24:27,100 --> 02:24:28,100
but I do want

2078
02:24:28,100 --> 02:24:29,100
to mention it within. And I

2079
02:24:29,100 --> 02:24:30,100
think I mentioned it also to

2080
02:24:30,100 --> 02:24:32,100
Director Orr within planning

2081
02:24:32,100 --> 02:24:34,401
and the 100% cost recovery

2082
02:24:35,100 --> 02:24:37,100
model of projects that are

2083
02:24:37,100 --> 02:24:39,100
controversial, that may have a

2084
02:24:39,100 --> 02:24:41,100
lot of neighborhood input,

2085
02:24:41,100 --> 02:24:44,100
which may translate into a lot

2086
02:24:44,100 --> 02:24:45,100
of neighborhood questions that

2087
02:24:45,100 --> 02:24:48,601
then get billed at 100% to the

2088
02:24:51,100 --> 02:24:53,100
applicant and the consequences

2089
02:24:53,100 --> 02:24:55,100
of that and the transparency

2090
02:24:55,100 --> 02:24:56,100
of that. We just need to think

2091
02:24:56,100 --> 02:24:57,100
about how to put guardrails

2092
02:24:57,100 --> 02:24:59,100
around it so that you're not

2093
02:24:59,100 --> 02:25:01,100
susceptible

2094
02:25:01,100 --> 02:25:03,401
to a savvy neighborhood,

2095
02:25:08,100 --> 02:25:09,100
basically making a project

2096
02:25:09,100 --> 02:25:10,100
wholly unaffordable

2097
02:25:10,100 --> 02:25:11,100
by peppering planners,

2098
02:25:11,100 --> 02:25:12,100
attorneys, whomever it may be,

2099
02:25:12,100 --> 02:25:13,100
with so many questions that the

2100
02:25:13,100 --> 02:25:15,401
applicant cannot write the

2101
02:25:16,100 --> 02:25:17,100
check to continue the

2102
02:25:17,100 --> 02:25:19,100
processing. I think that we

2103
02:25:19,100 --> 02:25:20,100
have a vulnerability there

2104
02:25:20,100 --> 02:25:21,100
personally that we need

2105
02:25:21,100 --> 02:25:23,100
to kind of look at

2106
02:25:23,100 --> 02:25:24,100
with some sort

2107
02:25:24,100 --> 02:25:25,000
of policy direction. Lastly, I

2108
02:25:25,000 --> 02:25:26,100
do think while 100% cost

2109
02:25:26,100 --> 02:25:28,100
recovery is fine

2110
02:25:29,100 --> 02:25:32,100
for certain billings or fees,

2111
02:25:32,100 --> 02:25:34,100
building, for instance,

2112
02:25:35,100 --> 02:25:36,100
a building permit totally get.

2113
02:25:36,100 --> 02:25:39,100
It should be 100% cost recovery

2114
02:25:39,100 --> 02:25:41,100
should be the minimum amount

2115
02:25:41,100 --> 02:25:42,100
of time spent

2116
02:25:42,100 --> 02:25:44,100
to process the fee. So the

2117
02:25:44,100 --> 02:25:45,100
efficiency still matters. But

2118
02:25:45,100 --> 02:25:47,100
there are community benefits,

2119
02:25:47,100 --> 02:25:48,100
especially on the planning side

2120
02:25:48,100 --> 02:25:51,100
that I think. And the reality

2121
02:25:51,100 --> 02:25:52,100
is, I think we do planning and

2122
02:25:52,100 --> 02:25:54,100
the regulatory process

2123
02:25:55,100 --> 02:25:56,100
within planning,

2124
02:25:56,100 --> 02:25:57,100
really more so

2125
02:25:57,100 --> 02:25:58,100
for the community, the

2126
02:25:58,100 --> 02:26:00,100
neighbor, than perhaps even the

2127
02:26:00,100 --> 02:26:01,100
applicant themselves. They're

2128
02:26:01,100 --> 02:26:03,100
part of that. But it's a shared

2129
02:26:03,100 --> 02:26:04,100
responsibility, which means,

2130
02:26:04,100 --> 02:26:06,100
to me,

2131
02:26:07,100 --> 02:26:08,100
it should be a shared expense.

2132
02:26:08,100 --> 02:26:09,100
And that's just a kind of a

2133
02:26:09,100 --> 02:26:11,401
philosophical thing that I've

2134
02:26:12,100 --> 02:26:13,100
always had,

2135
02:26:13,100 --> 02:26:14,100
and especially as an architect,

2136
02:26:14,100 --> 02:26:15,100
seeing that in different

2137
02:26:15,100 --> 02:26:16,100
jurisdictions be used in

2138
02:26:16,100 --> 02:26:18,100
different ways. I think there's

2139
02:26:18,100 --> 02:26:19,100
a. And I. I do believe that the

2140
02:26:19,100 --> 02:26:21,100
county is so much better at

2141
02:26:21,100 --> 02:26:23,100
this than many other

2142
02:26:23,100 --> 02:26:24,100
jurisdictions, which is great.

2143
02:26:24,100 --> 02:26:26,100
But I think it's always

2144
02:26:26,100 --> 02:26:28,100
something to kind

2145
02:26:28,100 --> 02:26:29,100
of keep your eyes

2146
02:26:29,100 --> 02:26:31,100
on as we go forward. So I

2147
02:26:31,100 --> 02:26:32,100
appreciate the opportunity

2148
02:26:32,100 --> 02:26:33,100
to get those things

2149
02:26:33,100 --> 02:26:34,100
off my chest. And again,

2150
02:26:34,100 --> 02:26:35,100
thank you

2151
02:26:35,100 --> 02:26:36,100
for all the work.

2152
02:26:36,100 --> 02:26:38,100
>> Thank you.

2153
02:26:39,100 --> 02:26:40,100
>> Supervisor Hopkins.

2154
02:26:40,100 --> 02:26:42,100
>> Thank you. I just want to

2155
02:26:42,100 --> 02:26:43,100
say that I appreciate the fact,

2156
02:26:43,100 --> 02:26:45,100
and I'm looking at Christine

2157
02:26:45,100 --> 02:26:46,100
Sasko, that we are not having a

2158
02:26:46,100 --> 02:26:47,100
conversation

2159
02:26:47,100 --> 02:26:48,100
about dairy fees today. So that

2160
02:26:48,100 --> 02:26:49,100
was nice. So I just had

2161
02:26:49,100 --> 02:26:51,100
to say that. And hopefully that

2162
02:26:51,100 --> 02:26:52,100
doesn't kind of create any.

2163
02:26:52,100 --> 02:26:54,100
Any friction.

2164
02:26:54,100 --> 02:26:55,100
But one thing that I wanted

2165
02:26:55,100 --> 02:26:57,100
to ask. I don't quibble

2166
02:26:57,100 --> 02:26:58,100
with any of the fee proposals

2167
02:26:58,100 --> 02:27:00,100
before us today. And I don't

2168
02:27:00,100 --> 02:27:01,100
have any concerns about the Ag

2169
02:27:01,100 --> 02:27:03,100
weights and measures fee

2170
02:27:03,100 --> 02:27:04,100
increases,

2171
02:27:04,100 --> 02:27:06,100
but I did have a question

2172
02:27:06,100 --> 02:27:08,100
about timing. And I'm wondering

2173
02:27:08,100 --> 02:27:09,100
if this might be something that

2174
02:27:09,100 --> 02:27:10,100
we could delve into further

2175
02:27:10,100 --> 02:27:11,100
on the Ag Workshop that's

2176
02:27:11,100 --> 02:27:13,100
coming up. I have heard

2177
02:27:13,100 --> 02:27:15,100
feedback and concern

2178
02:27:16,100 --> 02:27:17,100
from growers who, partly,

2179
02:27:17,100 --> 02:27:19,100
in some cases,

2180
02:27:19,100 --> 02:27:20,100
they actually haven't been paid

2181
02:27:20,100 --> 02:27:21,100
for grapes that they delivered

2182
02:27:21,100 --> 02:27:22,100
to wineries in the past,

2183
02:27:22,100 --> 02:27:23,100
that it's hard for them

2184
02:27:23,100 --> 02:27:25,100
to afford to pay a Vesco fee up

2185
02:27:25,100 --> 02:27:26,100
front when they are removing

2186
02:27:26,100 --> 02:27:28,100
grapes under financial duress

2187
02:27:28,100 --> 02:27:29,100
right now. And so the question

2188
02:27:29,100 --> 02:27:31,100
is, you know,

2189
02:27:31,100 --> 02:27:32,100
while still holding onto that

2190
02:27:32,100 --> 02:27:34,100
fee, is there an opportunity

2191
02:27:34,100 --> 02:27:36,100
to apply for that

2192
02:27:36,100 --> 02:27:37,100
in the future? Right. You know,

2193
02:27:37,100 --> 02:27:39,100
without having to do it at the

2194
02:27:39,100 --> 02:27:40,100
time that the grapes are

2195
02:27:40,100 --> 02:27:41,100
removed? So it's really kind

2196
02:27:41,100 --> 02:27:42,100
of a question

2197
02:27:42,100 --> 02:27:43,100
of timing and not

2198
02:27:43,100 --> 02:27:44,100
of the dollar amount collected.

2199
02:27:44,100 --> 02:27:45,100
The other thing is that not

2200
02:27:45,100 --> 02:27:47,100
everyone knows whether or not

2201
02:27:47,100 --> 02:27:49,100
they will replant grapes

2202
02:27:49,100 --> 02:27:50,100
in the future, and that kind

2203
02:27:50,100 --> 02:27:51,100
of depends

2204
02:27:51,100 --> 02:27:52,100
on the way that the market

2205
02:27:52,100 --> 02:27:54,100
goes. But this is kind

2206
02:27:54,100 --> 02:27:55,100
of a. A process,

2207
02:27:55,100 --> 02:27:56,100
not overall amount. And so I

2208
02:27:56,100 --> 02:27:57,100
was going to ask Ag

2209
02:27:57,100 --> 02:27:59,100
Commissioner Andrew Smith if

2210
02:27:59,100 --> 02:28:00,100
that's something that maybe we

2211
02:28:00,100 --> 02:28:01,100
should discuss at the Ag

2212
02:28:01,100 --> 02:28:02,100
Workshop. Does that seem

2213
02:28:02,100 --> 02:28:03,100
like the appropriate place

2214
02:28:03,100 --> 02:28:06,100
to do that? It's not something

2215
02:28:06,100 --> 02:28:07,100
that's exactly

2216
02:28:07,100 --> 02:28:08,100
before us today, but I think

2217
02:28:08,100 --> 02:28:09,100
that it's related and perhaps

2218
02:28:09,100 --> 02:28:11,100
we could have further

2219
02:28:11,100 --> 02:28:13,401
conversations about this. And

2220
02:28:14,100 --> 02:28:15,100
this is partly to also avoid

2221
02:28:15,100 --> 02:28:17,100
what we have had concerns with

2222
02:28:17,100 --> 02:28:18,100
on the orchard side

2223
02:28:18,100 --> 02:28:19,100
of things, where you actually

2224
02:28:19,100 --> 02:28:20,100
have abandoned orchards that

2225
02:28:20,100 --> 02:28:21,100
then become pest magnets, which

2226
02:28:21,100 --> 02:28:23,100
actually creates then a concern

2227
02:28:23,100 --> 02:28:24,100
and actually increases pressure

2228
02:28:24,100 --> 02:28:25,100
for spraying

2229
02:28:25,100 --> 02:28:27,100
on adjacent properties, which

2230
02:28:27,100 --> 02:28:29,100
is something that we don't

2231
02:28:29,100 --> 02:28:31,100
want. Right. Is sort

2232
02:28:31,100 --> 02:28:32,100
of more pesticide application,

2233
02:28:32,100 --> 02:28:33,100
because there are these places

2234
02:28:33,100 --> 02:28:35,100
that are just collecting

2235
02:28:35,100 --> 02:28:37,100
agricultural pests because

2236
02:28:38,100 --> 02:28:40,100
they've been abandoned.

2237
02:28:40,100 --> 02:28:42,100
>> Yeah, we could definitely

2238
02:28:42,100 --> 02:28:43,100
talk about that. If the ad hoc

2239
02:28:43,100 --> 02:28:45,100
wants to discuss that

2240
02:28:45,100 --> 02:28:46,100
at the workshop, I think we

2241
02:28:46,100 --> 02:28:47,100
could also discuss it outside

2242
02:28:47,100 --> 02:28:49,401
of the workshop. There's

2243
02:28:50,100 --> 02:28:52,100
definitely concerns. I think

2244
02:28:52,100 --> 02:28:53,100
I'd bring it up during a topic

2245
02:28:53,100 --> 02:28:55,100
around fallowing,

2246
02:28:56,100 --> 02:28:58,100
because there's interest

2247
02:28:58,100 --> 02:29:00,401
in pulling vines ahead

2248
02:29:01,100 --> 02:29:03,100
of applying for a replant

2249
02:29:03,100 --> 02:29:06,601
permit and we do allow crop

2250
02:29:08,100 --> 02:29:11,100
swap, or if we can prove that

2251
02:29:11,100 --> 02:29:12,100
someone's been cultivating the

2252
02:29:12,100 --> 02:29:13,100
land

2253
02:29:13,100 --> 02:29:14,100
with alternative other crops

2254
02:29:14,100 --> 02:29:16,100
for five years previous,

2255
02:29:16,100 --> 02:29:17,100
that they do qualify

2256
02:29:17,100 --> 02:29:18,100
for a replant permit. And so

2257
02:29:18,100 --> 02:29:20,100
we'd want to work

2258
02:29:20,100 --> 02:29:21,100
with council and dig into

2259
02:29:21,100 --> 02:29:25,201
Vesco and see what we can do

2260
02:29:26,100 --> 02:29:28,401
without bringing any liability

2261
02:29:29,100 --> 02:29:31,100
on the county.

2262
02:29:31,100 --> 02:29:32,100
>> Great. And then another

2263
02:29:32,100 --> 02:29:33,100
question, because I know I've

2264
02:29:33,100 --> 02:29:34,100
had conversations about sort of

2265
02:29:34,100 --> 02:29:35,100
what counts as a crop swap and

2266
02:29:35,100 --> 02:29:37,100
I believe that it was sort of

2267
02:29:37,100 --> 02:29:38,100
anything that does involve

2268
02:29:38,100 --> 02:29:40,100
cultivation, but, like,

2269
02:29:40,100 --> 02:29:41,100
would a regular row cropping. I

2270
02:29:41,100 --> 02:29:43,100
mean, sorry, cover cropping

2271
02:29:43,100 --> 02:29:44,100
count, for instance,

2272
02:29:44,100 --> 02:29:46,100
as long as you are sort

2273
02:29:46,100 --> 02:29:47,100
of planting out bell beans,

2274
02:29:47,100 --> 02:29:49,100
even if you're not necessarily

2275
02:29:49,100 --> 02:29:51,100
harvesting them,

2276
02:29:51,100 --> 02:29:52,100
but you're just turning them

2277
02:29:52,100 --> 02:29:53,100
under

2278
02:29:53,100 --> 02:29:54,100
to maintain the space

2279
02:29:54,100 --> 02:29:56,100
>> Yeah that's definitely

2280
02:29:56,100 --> 02:29:57,100
something that we should

2281
02:29:57,100 --> 02:29:59,100
discuss when we're talking

2282
02:29:59,100 --> 02:30:00,100
about fallowing, say,

2283
02:30:00,100 --> 02:30:02,100
in an ag ad hoc workshop.

2284
02:30:02,100 --> 02:30:03,100
>> Great. Because I think that,

2285
02:30:03,100 --> 02:30:05,100
you know, in many ways,

2286
02:30:05,100 --> 02:30:06,100
those are best practices.

2287
02:30:06,100 --> 02:30:07,100
Right. And so we actually want

2288
02:30:07,100 --> 02:30:10,100
to support that and not make it

2289
02:30:10,100 --> 02:30:12,100
more difficult to do what are

2290
02:30:12,100 --> 02:30:13,100
really best management

2291
02:30:13,100 --> 02:30:15,100
practices for the land,

2292
02:30:15,100 --> 02:30:17,100
for carbon sequestration and

2293
02:30:17,100 --> 02:30:18,100
all of those things. And we

2294
02:30:18,100 --> 02:30:19,100
definitely don't want

2295
02:30:19,100 --> 02:30:21,100
to end up with situations where

2296
02:30:21,100 --> 02:30:22,100
we do have derelict vineyards

2297
02:30:22,100 --> 02:30:23,100
the way that we have had,

2298
02:30:23,100 --> 02:30:25,100
unfortunately,

2299
02:30:25,100 --> 02:30:28,100
some derelict orchards of. In

2300
02:30:29,100 --> 02:30:30,100
properties that just end up

2301
02:30:30,100 --> 02:30:31,100
breeding lots

2302
02:30:31,100 --> 02:30:32,100
of coddling moths. So.

2303
02:30:32,100 --> 02:30:33,100
>> Absolutely.

2304
02:30:33,100 --> 02:30:34,100
>> Anything to add

2305
02:30:34,100 --> 02:30:35,100
on that one? Or just sort

2306
02:30:35,100 --> 02:30:36,100
of table that for with April

2307
02:30:36,100 --> 02:30:37,100
7th. Right. So it's just right

2308
02:30:37,100 --> 02:30:38,100
around the corner. Yeah.

2309
02:30:38,100 --> 02:30:39,100
Great. Thank you.

2310
02:30:39,100 --> 02:30:40,100
>> Any other comments,

2311
02:30:40,100 --> 02:30:41,100
questions? Seeing none, I will

2312
02:30:41,100 --> 02:30:42,100
officially close the hearing

2313
02:30:42,100 --> 02:30:43,100
and bring it back

2314
02:30:43,100 --> 02:30:44,100
to the board. And we're going

2315
02:30:44,100 --> 02:30:45,100
to do a separate roll call vote

2316
02:30:45,100 --> 02:30:46,100
for each one. Is there a

2317
02:30:46,100 --> 02:30:47,100
motion? Sorry.

2318
02:30:47,100 --> 02:30:49,100
>> Move to approve.

2319
02:30:49,100 --> 02:30:51,401
>> Is there a second?

2320
02:30:54,100 --> 02:30:56,100
>> Yes.

2321
02:30:56,100 --> 02:30:58,100
>> Great. Thanks. Separate

2322
02:31:00,100 --> 02:31:02,401
votes for each one. 38.

2323
02:31:05,100 --> 02:31:07,100
>> For item 38. Supervisor

2324
02:31:08,100 --> 02:31:10,100
Rabbitt.

2325
02:31:11,100 --> 02:31:13,100
>> Aye.

2326
02:31:13,100 --> 02:31:14,100
>> Supervisor Coursey.

2327
02:31:14,100 --> 02:31:15,100
>> Yes.

2328
02:31:15,100 --> 02:31:16,100
>> Supervisor Gore?

2329
02:31:16,100 --> 02:31:17,100
>> Yes.

2330
02:31:17,100 --> 02:31:18,100
>> Supervisor Hopkins?

2331
02:31:18,100 --> 02:31:19,100
>> Yes.

2332
02:31:19,100 --> 02:31:20,100
>> Chair Hermosillo?

2333
02:31:20,100 --> 02:31:22,100
>> Yes.

2334
02:31:23,100 --> 02:31:25,401
>> Number 39 motion. Do you

2335
02:31:29,100 --> 02:31:30,100
need a motion for all

2336
02:31:30,100 --> 02:31:31,100
of them separately?

2337
02:31:31,100 --> 02:31:32,100
>> Okay.

2338
02:31:32,100 --> 02:31:33,100
>> All right, kids,

2339
02:31:33,100 --> 02:31:35,100
since they're separate items,

2340
02:31:35,100 --> 02:31:36,100
>> Is there a motion?

2341
02:31:36,100 --> 02:31:37,100
>> 39 move to approve.

2342
02:31:37,100 --> 02:31:38,100
>> Is there a second?

2343
02:31:38,100 --> 02:31:39,100
>> Second.

2344
02:31:39,100 --> 02:31:41,100
>> There you go.

2345
02:31:44,100 --> 02:31:45,100
>> Yeah.

2346
02:31:45,100 --> 02:31:46,100
>> Roll call votes for all

2347
02:31:46,100 --> 02:31:47,100
of them?

2348
02:31:47,100 --> 02:31:49,100
>> Yeah.

2349
02:31:49,100 --> 02:31:51,100
>> Hearings for item 39.

2350
02:31:52,100 --> 02:31:53,100
>> Supervisor Rabbitt?

2351
02:31:53,100 --> 02:31:54,100
>> Aye.

2352
02:31:54,100 --> 02:31:55,100
>> Supervisor Coursey.

2353
02:31:55,100 --> 02:31:56,100
>> Yes.

2354
02:31:56,100 --> 02:31:57,100
>> Supervisor Gore?

2355
02:31:57,100 --> 02:31:58,100
>> Yep.

2356
02:31:58,100 --> 02:31:59,100
>> Supervisor Hopkins.

2357
02:31:59,100 --> 02:32:00,100
>> Yes.

2358
02:32:00,100 --> 02:32:01,100
>> Chair Hermosillo?

2359
02:32:01,100 --> 02:32:02,100
>> Yes.

2360
02:32:02,100 --> 02:32:03,100
>> 40 moved to approve.

2361
02:32:03,100 --> 02:32:05,100
Second

2362
02:32:06,100 --> 02:32:07,100
>> for item 40. Supervisor

2363
02:32:07,100 --> 02:32:08,100
Rabbitt.

2364
02:32:08,100 --> 02:32:09,100
>> Aye.

2365
02:32:09,100 --> 02:32:10,100
>> Supervisor Coursey?

2366
02:32:10,100 --> 02:32:11,100
>> Yes.

2367
02:32:11,100 --> 02:32:12,100
>> Supervisor Gore?

2368
02:32:12,100 --> 02:32:13,100
>> Yes.

2369
02:32:13,100 --> 02:32:14,100
>> Supervisor Hopkins?

2370
02:32:14,100 --> 02:32:15,100
>> Yes.

2371
02:32:15,100 --> 02:32:16,100
>> Chair Hermosillo?

2372
02:32:16,100 --> 02:32:17,100
>> Yes.

2373
02:32:17,100 --> 02:32:18,100
>> 41. Move to approve.

2374
02:32:18,100 --> 02:32:19,100
>> Second

2375
02:32:19,100 --> 02:32:21,100
>> We got on the ball.

2376
02:32:21,100 --> 02:32:22,100
>> Item 41. Supervisor

2377
02:32:22,100 --> 02:32:23,100
Rabbitt.

2378
02:32:23,100 --> 02:32:24,100
>> Aye.

2379
02:32:24,100 --> 02:32:25,100
>> Supervisor Coursey.

2380
02:32:25,100 --> 02:32:26,100
>> Yes.

2381
02:32:26,100 --> 02:32:27,100
>> Supervisor Gore?

2382
02:32:27,100 --> 02:32:28,100
>> Yes.

2383
02:32:28,100 --> 02:32:29,100
>> Supervisor Hopkins.

2384
02:32:29,100 --> 02:32:30,100
>> Yes.

2385
02:32:30,100 --> 02:32:31,100
>> Chair Hermosillo?

2386
02:32:31,100 --> 02:32:32,100
>> Yes.

2387
02:32:32,100 --> 02:32:33,100
>> 42. Move to approve. Did I

2388
02:32:33,100 --> 02:32:34,100
just do 42? No. Did I?

2389
02:32:34,100 --> 02:32:36,100
>> You did 41.

2390
02:32:37,100 --> 02:32:38,100
>> This is 42.

2391
02:32:38,100 --> 02:32:39,100
>> 42.

2392
02:32:39,100 --> 02:32:40,100
>> I am keeping track right

2393
02:32:40,100 --> 02:32:41,100
now.

2394
02:32:41,100 --> 02:32:43,100
>> Second.

2395
02:32:44,100 --> 02:32:47,100
>> I should second. There you

2396
02:32:47,100 --> 02:32:49,100
go.

2397
02:32:50,100 --> 02:32:51,100
>> Item 42. Supervisor

2398
02:32:51,100 --> 02:32:52,100
Rabbitt.

2399
02:32:52,100 --> 02:32:53,100
>> Aye.

2400
02:32:53,100 --> 02:32:54,100
>> Supervisor Coursey.

2401
02:32:54,100 --> 02:32:55,100
>> Yes.

2402
02:32:55,100 --> 02:32:56,100
>> Supervisor Gore.

2403
02:32:56,100 --> 02:32:57,100
>> Yes.

2404
02:32:57,100 --> 02:32:58,100
>> Supervisor Hopkins.

2405
02:32:58,100 --> 02:32:59,100
>> Yes.

2406
02:32:59,100 --> 02:33:00,100
>> Chair Hermosillo.

2407
02:33:00,100 --> 02:33:01,100
>> Yes.

2408
02:33:01,100 --> 02:33:03,100
>> Number 43, move to approve.

2409
02:33:03,100 --> 02:33:05,401
Is there a second?

2410
02:33:07,100 --> 02:33:09,100
>> Second.

2411
02:33:10,100 --> 02:33:11,100
>> Supervisor Coursey seconds.

2412
02:33:11,100 --> 02:33:13,100
Roll call.

2413
02:33:13,100 --> 02:33:14,100
>> Item number 43. Supervisor

2414
02:33:14,100 --> 02:33:15,100
Rabbitt.

2415
02:33:15,100 --> 02:33:16,100
>> Aye.

2416
02:33:16,100 --> 02:33:17,100
>> Supervisor Coursey.

2417
02:33:17,100 --> 02:33:18,100
>> Yes.

2418
02:33:18,100 --> 02:33:19,100
>> Supervisor Gore.

2419
02:33:19,100 --> 02:33:20,100
>> Yes.

2420
02:33:20,100 --> 02:33:21,100
>> Supervisor Hopkins.

2421
02:33:21,100 --> 02:33:22,100
>> Yes.

2422
02:33:22,100 --> 02:33:23,100
>> Chair Hermosillo?

2423
02:33:23,100 --> 02:33:24,100
>> Yes.

2424
02:33:24,100 --> 02:33:25,100
>> Thank you, Chair and board

2425
02:33:25,100 --> 02:33:26,100
members. Thank you, Andrew. We

2426
02:33:26,100 --> 02:33:28,100
are going to have regional

2427
02:33:28,100 --> 02:33:31,100
parks fee study separately. So

2428
02:33:32,100 --> 02:33:33,100
those will come back later.

2429
02:33:33,100 --> 02:33:34,100
>> Yes.

2430
02:33:34,100 --> 02:33:35,100
>> Thank you.

2431
02:33:35,100 --> 02:33:36,100
>> Thank you. And now we're

2432
02:33:36,100 --> 02:33:38,100
going to item 44.

2433
02:33:39,100 --> 02:33:42,601
>> Thank you. Next time I would

2434
02:33:45,100 --> 02:33:48,601
like a joke, please. Or three.

2435
02:33:52,100 --> 02:33:53,100
>> Energy independence program.

2436
02:33:53,100 --> 02:33:55,100
We have our auditor,

2437
02:33:55,100 --> 02:33:56,100
controller Eric Roger,

2438
02:33:56,100 --> 02:33:58,100
Kathleen Parnell. Terry. Hi.

2439
02:33:58,100 --> 02:33:59,100
Good to see you. And Brianna.

2440
02:33:59,100 --> 02:34:01,100
No.

2441
02:34:08,100 --> 02:34:09,100
>> Good morning, Chair

2442
02:34:09,100 --> 02:34:10,100
Hermosillo, members

2443
02:34:10,100 --> 02:34:13,100
of the board, CEO Rivera, and

2444
02:34:13,100 --> 02:34:15,100
Council Myers. Introductions

2445
02:34:15,100 --> 02:34:18,100
were already made. We all

2446
02:34:19,100 --> 02:34:21,100
represent the Sonoma County

2447
02:34:21,100 --> 02:34:22,100
Energy Independence Program

2448
02:34:22,100 --> 02:34:24,100
in various capacities,

2449
02:34:24,100 --> 02:34:26,100
and we're here

2450
02:34:26,100 --> 02:34:28,100
before you today with the

2451
02:34:28,100 --> 02:34:29,100
semiannual bonding

2452
02:34:29,100 --> 02:34:30,100
authorization for the Sonoma

2453
02:34:30,100 --> 02:34:32,100
County Energy Independence

2454
02:34:32,100 --> 02:34:35,100
Program, also known as SCEIP.

2455
02:34:36,100 --> 02:34:38,401
The recommended actions before

2456
02:34:39,100 --> 02:34:42,100
you today will allow the

2457
02:34:42,100 --> 02:34:43,100
program to continue

2458
02:34:43,100 --> 02:34:45,100
to fund SCEIP assessments

2459
02:34:45,100 --> 02:34:46,100
from April 1st of this year

2460
02:34:46,100 --> 02:34:47,100
through September 30th of

2461
02:34:47,100 --> 02:34:49,100
2026. And the recommended

2462
02:34:49,100 --> 02:34:51,100
actions include resolutions

2463
02:34:52,100 --> 02:34:55,100
to issue the Skype revenue

2464
02:34:56,100 --> 02:34:58,401
bonds and authorize the

2465
02:34:59,100 --> 02:35:01,100
treasurer, county Treasurer,

2466
02:35:01,100 --> 02:35:02,100
myself and the Sonoma Water

2467
02:35:02,100 --> 02:35:05,100
Agency to invest in those bonds

2468
02:35:05,100 --> 02:35:08,100
as long term investments. I

2469
02:35:09,100 --> 02:35:11,100
would like to add that we came

2470
02:35:11,100 --> 02:35:12,100
to your board in July of 2025

2471
02:35:12,100 --> 02:35:15,100
with a recommendation to wind

2472
02:35:17,100 --> 02:35:20,100
down residential Skype as a

2473
02:35:21,100 --> 02:35:23,100
result of the Consumer

2474
02:35:23,100 --> 02:35:25,100
Financial Protection Bureau

2475
02:35:26,100 --> 02:35:27,100
rulemaking requirements. And

2476
02:35:27,100 --> 02:35:28,100
that action was approved

2477
02:35:28,100 --> 02:35:31,100
by your board. As of March 1st,

2478
02:35:31,100 --> 02:35:33,100
of this year, the program is no

2479
02:35:33,100 --> 02:35:34,100
longer entering into

2480
02:35:34,100 --> 02:35:36,100
residential contract

2481
02:35:36,100 --> 02:35:38,401
assessments. We currently have

2482
02:35:40,100 --> 02:35:42,100
seven residential contract

2483
02:35:42,100 --> 02:35:44,100
assessments waiting

2484
02:35:45,100 --> 02:35:48,100
to be bonded, and we anticipate

2485
02:35:48,100 --> 02:35:51,100
that those will be bonded

2486
02:35:58,100 --> 02:35:59,100
hopefully before the

2487
02:35:59,100 --> 02:36:00,100
authorization period expires

2488
02:36:00,100 --> 02:36:01,100
in September, but it may go

2489
02:36:01,100 --> 02:36:02,100
beyond that depending

2490
02:36:02,100 --> 02:36:03,100
on the individual projects.

2491
02:36:03,100 --> 02:36:04,100
And lastly,

2492
02:36:04,100 --> 02:36:05,100
staff does continue

2493
02:36:05,100 --> 02:36:06,100
to monitor commercial activity.

2494
02:36:06,100 --> 02:36:07,100
And we will return

2495
02:36:07,100 --> 02:36:08,100
to your board

2496
02:36:08,100 --> 02:36:09,100
with comprehensive update on

2497
02:36:09,100 --> 02:36:10,100
July 14th of this year. And

2498
02:36:10,100 --> 02:36:11,100
with that, we are available

2499
02:36:11,100 --> 02:36:13,100
for questions.

2500
02:36:13,100 --> 02:36:15,100
>> Great. Thank you. Is there

2501
02:36:15,100 --> 02:36:17,100
any public comment

2502
02:36:17,100 --> 02:36:20,100
on item number 44? Seeing none.

2503
02:36:20,100 --> 02:36:22,100
I'll bring it to the board if

2504
02:36:22,100 --> 02:36:23,100
there's any questions.

2505
02:36:23,100 --> 02:36:26,100
Comments? Thank you. Thank you

2506
02:36:28,100 --> 02:36:30,100
for your work. Is there a

2507
02:36:30,100 --> 02:36:32,100
motion to approve?

2508
02:36:32,100 --> 02:36:33,100
>> Move to approve.

2509
02:36:33,100 --> 02:36:34,100
>> And thank you

2510
02:36:34,100 --> 02:36:35,100
for your work, sincerely.

2511
02:36:35,100 --> 02:36:38,100
>> Okay, thank you. And do we

2512
02:36:38,100 --> 02:36:41,601
need a roll call vote? All

2513
02:36:42,100 --> 02:36:44,100
those in favor?

2514
02:36:44,100 --> 02:36:45,100
>> Aye.

2515
02:36:45,100 --> 02:36:47,100
>> Aye.

2516
02:36:47,100 --> 02:36:48,100
>> Any opposition? Seeing none.

2517
02:36:48,100 --> 02:36:51,100
That motion passes. Thank you.

2518
02:36:52,100 --> 02:36:55,601
And now we are moving on

2519
02:36:57,100 --> 02:36:59,100
to item number 46, the

2520
02:36:59,100 --> 02:37:00,100
ordinance

2521
02:37:00,100 --> 02:37:02,401
to amend proposition provisions

2522
02:37:03,100 --> 02:37:05,100
in chapter 14 of the Sonoma

2523
02:37:05,100 --> 02:37:06,100
County Code, including

2524
02:37:06,100 --> 02:37:08,100
provisions concerning cannabis

2525
02:37:08,100 --> 02:37:10,100
dispensaries,

2526
02:37:10,100 --> 02:37:12,100
repealing obsolete provisions,

2527
02:37:12,100 --> 02:37:14,401
and adopting a resolution

2528
02:37:15,100 --> 02:37:16,100
to establish environmental,

2529
02:37:16,100 --> 02:37:19,601
health and safety fees. And we

2530
02:37:20,100 --> 02:37:21,100
have Director Sullivan,

2531
02:37:21,100 --> 02:37:23,100
Christine Sasko and Vern.

2532
02:37:23,100 --> 02:37:25,100
>> Oh, thank you.

2533
02:37:25,100 --> 02:37:26,100
>> Chair.

2534
02:37:26,100 --> 02:37:27,100
>> Yes.

2535
02:37:27,100 --> 02:37:28,100
>> I don't see any issues,

2536
02:37:28,100 --> 02:37:29,100
but I recused myself earlier

2537
02:37:29,100 --> 02:37:30,100
on an ordinance thing

2538
02:37:30,100 --> 02:37:31,100
around dispensaries. And so I'm

2539
02:37:31,100 --> 02:37:32,100
going to step out and let you

2540
02:37:32,100 --> 02:37:34,100
guys have the fun and septic

2541
02:37:34,100 --> 02:37:35,100
systems together as one. Enjoy

2542
02:37:35,100 --> 02:37:37,100
your deliberation.

2543
02:37:37,100 --> 02:37:38,100
>> Come back swiftly for

2544
02:37:38,100 --> 02:37:41,100
Measure O. Thank you. And

2545
02:37:42,100 --> 02:37:44,100
pizza.

2546
02:37:54,100 --> 02:37:55,100
>> Good morning, Chair

2547
02:37:55,100 --> 02:37:57,100
Hermosillo and board members,

2548
02:37:57,100 --> 02:37:58,100
CEO and County Attorney. My

2549
02:37:58,100 --> 02:37:59,100
name is Nolan Sullivan,

2550
02:37:59,100 --> 02:38:00,100
Director of Health Services.

2551
02:38:00,100 --> 02:38:01,100
As Supervisor Gore mentioned,

2552
02:38:01,100 --> 02:38:02,100
we have a great presentation

2553
02:38:02,100 --> 02:38:03,100
today on cannabis and sewage.

2554
02:38:03,100 --> 02:38:05,100
We will be talking about an

2555
02:38:05,100 --> 02:38:07,100
ordinance update and

2556
02:38:07,100 --> 02:38:08,100
association. None

2557
02:38:08,100 --> 02:38:10,100
of these fees were included in

2558
02:38:10,100 --> 02:38:12,100
the fee hearings we just heard.

2559
02:38:12,100 --> 02:38:13,100
We're bringing them separately

2560
02:38:13,100 --> 02:38:14,100
today because the ordinance and

2561
02:38:14,100 --> 02:38:15,100
the fees go hand in hand. So we

2562
02:38:15,100 --> 02:38:17,100
have our subject matter expert

2563
02:38:17,100 --> 02:38:19,100
here, Christine Sasko, who's

2564
02:38:19,100 --> 02:38:20,100
going to tell us all

2565
02:38:20,100 --> 02:38:21,100
about some updated changes to

2566
02:38:21,100 --> 02:38:22,100
indoor consumption lounges and

2567
02:38:22,100 --> 02:38:25,100
a variety of things that come

2568
02:38:25,100 --> 02:38:26,100
along with that. And then we

2569
02:38:26,100 --> 02:38:27,100
have Vern here to answer any

2570
02:38:27,100 --> 02:38:28,100
technical questions that come

2571
02:38:28,100 --> 02:38:30,100
up on the legal end

2572
02:38:30,100 --> 02:38:31,100
of things. So with that,

2573
02:38:31,100 --> 02:38:32,100
I will hand it off to

2574
02:38:32,100 --> 02:38:34,100
Christine.

2575
02:38:38,100 --> 02:38:40,100
>> Good morning.

2576
02:38:40,100 --> 02:38:41,100
>> Good morning, Chair. Chair

2577
02:38:41,100 --> 02:38:42,100
Hermosillo and members

2578
02:38:42,100 --> 02:38:44,100
of the board. I'm going

2579
02:38:44,100 --> 02:38:45,100
to go ahead and start talking

2580
02:38:45,100 --> 02:38:47,100
about the changes to the

2581
02:38:47,100 --> 02:38:49,100
cannabis health ordinance. So

2582
02:38:49,100 --> 02:38:52,100
we're looking at adopting a

2583
02:38:53,100 --> 02:38:55,100
resolution introducing the

2584
02:38:56,100 --> 02:38:58,100
ordinance. And there's two

2585
02:38:58,100 --> 02:39:00,100
different changes here. One

2586
02:39:00,100 --> 02:39:01,100
would be in chapter 14, which

2587
02:39:01,100 --> 02:39:02,100
is the health and sanitation

2588
02:39:02,100 --> 02:39:04,401
ordinance, and we're looking

2589
02:39:05,100 --> 02:39:07,100
to amend provisions

2590
02:39:07,100 --> 02:39:09,100
around cannabis dispensaries,

2591
02:39:10,100 --> 02:39:12,100
and this would allow for

2592
02:39:12,100 --> 02:39:14,100
cannabis consumption lounges,

2593
02:39:14,100 --> 02:39:15,100
and then also make other minor

2594
02:39:15,100 --> 02:39:18,100
updates to that ordinance. And

2595
02:39:20,100 --> 02:39:23,100
then looking at an amendment

2596
02:39:23,100 --> 02:39:25,100
in chapter 24, which is the

2597
02:39:25,100 --> 02:39:27,401
sewage, sewage and sewer

2598
02:39:28,100 --> 02:39:30,100
disposal, and it's

2599
02:39:30,100 --> 02:39:31,100
for septic haulers. And

2600
02:39:31,100 --> 02:39:34,100
in that program, we're looking

2601
02:39:34,100 --> 02:39:36,100
to eliminate the requirement

2602
02:39:36,100 --> 02:39:39,100
for a bond and make minor

2603
02:39:39,100 --> 02:39:41,100
cleanup changes there, too.

2604
02:39:41,100 --> 02:39:44,100
And then as a second part,

2605
02:39:44,100 --> 02:39:45,100
we're looking

2606
02:39:45,100 --> 02:39:46,100
to adopt a fee resolution to

2607
02:39:46,100 --> 02:39:48,100
establish environmental health

2608
02:39:49,100 --> 02:39:52,100
fees for the cannabis lounges

2609
02:39:53,100 --> 02:39:54,100
associated with this item. So

2610
02:39:54,100 --> 02:39:57,100
state law AB 1775 came around

2611
02:39:58,100 --> 02:40:00,401
in 2024, and it authorizes

2612
02:40:01,100 --> 02:40:03,100
local jurisdictions to allow

2613
02:40:03,100 --> 02:40:05,100
for

2614
02:40:05,100 --> 02:40:06,100
on site consumption lounges.

2615
02:40:06,100 --> 02:40:08,100
To do this, local jurisdictions

2616
02:40:08,100 --> 02:40:09,100
must modify both their zoning

2617
02:40:09,100 --> 02:40:11,100
and public health ordinances

2618
02:40:11,100 --> 02:40:14,100
to permit the cannabis lounges.

2619
02:40:14,100 --> 02:40:15,100
Sonoma county recently revised

2620
02:40:15,100 --> 02:40:17,100
the local zoning land use

2621
02:40:17,100 --> 02:40:18,100
ordinance to. To allow cannabis

2622
02:40:18,100 --> 02:40:21,100
consumption lounges. So now the

2623
02:40:21,100 --> 02:40:22,100
health ordinance must be

2624
02:40:22,100 --> 02:40:24,401
updated to allow cannabis

2625
02:40:25,100 --> 02:40:27,401
consumption lounges also. So

2626
02:40:42,100 --> 02:40:43,100
the current situation, the land

2627
02:40:43,100 --> 02:40:44,100
use ordinance now allows

2628
02:40:44,100 --> 02:40:46,100
cannabis consumption lounges,

2629
02:40:46,100 --> 02:40:48,100
and it allows those in the

2630
02:40:48,100 --> 02:40:49,100
unincorporated areas and. And

2631
02:40:49,100 --> 02:40:51,401
then the public health

2632
02:40:52,100 --> 02:40:53,100
ordinances, chapter 14, which

2633
02:40:53,100 --> 02:40:54,100
is health and sanitation,

2634
02:40:54,100 --> 02:40:56,100
that prohibits

2635
02:40:56,100 --> 02:40:57,100
on site consumption currently.

2636
02:40:57,100 --> 02:40:59,401
And then Chapter 32, the

2637
02:41:00,100 --> 02:41:01,100
Smoking Ordinance, prohibits

2638
02:41:01,100 --> 02:41:03,100
indoor smoking uses,

2639
02:41:06,100 --> 02:41:09,100
which includes cannabis. And so

2640
02:41:09,100 --> 02:41:11,100
as a result,

2641
02:41:11,100 --> 02:41:12,100
lounges cannot operate within

2642
02:41:12,100 --> 02:41:14,401
unincorporated county right now

2643
02:41:15,100 --> 02:41:18,100
due to without these ordinance

2644
02:41:18,100 --> 02:41:20,401
amendments. So in chapter 14,

2645
02:41:24,100 --> 02:41:27,100
the current code allows retail

2646
02:41:27,100 --> 02:41:29,100
sales,

2647
02:41:30,100 --> 02:41:32,100
but no on-site consumption.

2648
02:41:32,100 --> 02:41:34,100
What we're proposing

2649
02:41:34,100 --> 02:41:36,100
to change is to authorize

2650
02:41:36,100 --> 02:41:38,100
consumption lounges. And this

2651
02:41:38,100 --> 02:41:41,100
would be part as part of the

2652
02:41:41,100 --> 02:41:42,100
permitted cannabis dispensary

2653
02:41:42,100 --> 02:41:44,100
storefront retails operations.

2654
02:41:45,100 --> 02:41:48,601
And then they would be required

2655
02:41:49,100 --> 02:41:52,100
to have the health cannabis

2656
02:41:52,100 --> 02:41:54,100
lounge permit. They'd be

2657
02:41:54,100 --> 02:41:55,100
required

2658
02:41:55,100 --> 02:41:57,100
to have land use approval for

2659
02:41:57,100 --> 02:41:59,100
the appropriate jurisdiction if

2660
02:41:59,100 --> 02:42:01,100
required, and then compliance

2661
02:42:01,100 --> 02:42:03,100
with a document of health

2662
02:42:03,100 --> 02:42:05,401
officer requirements and then

2663
02:42:06,100 --> 02:42:08,100
approval from department

2664
02:42:10,100 --> 02:42:13,100
of cannabis control. So within

2665
02:42:16,100 --> 02:42:18,100
the health officer

2666
02:42:18,100 --> 02:42:20,100
requirements, we list health

2667
02:42:20,100 --> 02:42:22,401
and safety requirements. And

2668
02:42:23,100 --> 02:42:26,100
some of the more strict

2669
02:42:28,100 --> 02:42:29,100
requirements and protections

2670
02:42:29,100 --> 02:42:30,100
that are put in there are, you

2671
02:42:30,100 --> 02:42:32,100
know, a very advanced

2672
02:42:32,100 --> 02:42:34,100
ventilation and filtration

2673
02:42:34,100 --> 02:42:35,100
standard that's required of the

2674
02:42:35,100 --> 02:42:37,401
consumption lounge and then

2675
02:42:38,100 --> 02:42:40,401
also of the area

2676
02:42:41,100 --> 02:42:43,401
around the consumption lounge

2677
02:42:44,100 --> 02:42:46,100
to make sure that that smoke

2678
02:42:46,100 --> 02:42:48,100
does not leave that premises.

2679
02:42:48,100 --> 02:42:50,401
There's a physical separation

2680
02:42:51,100 --> 02:42:53,100
required from the retail area

2681
02:42:53,100 --> 02:42:55,401
and then employee protections

2682
02:42:57,100 --> 02:42:58,100
for secondhand smoke

2683
02:42:58,100 --> 02:43:00,100
for those working in the

2684
02:43:00,100 --> 02:43:02,100
consumption lounge area and

2685
02:43:02,100 --> 02:43:03,100
then protections for

2686
02:43:03,100 --> 02:43:05,100
neighboring businesses and

2687
02:43:05,100 --> 02:43:08,100
residences. So any shared walls

2688
02:43:08,100 --> 02:43:11,601
or that, and then a consumption

2689
02:43:12,100 --> 02:43:13,100
lounge can also not sell or use

2690
02:43:13,100 --> 02:43:16,601
or have anybody use tobacco or

2691
02:43:18,100 --> 02:43:19,100
alcohol within that lounge.

2692
02:43:19,100 --> 02:43:22,100
And then odor control and

2693
02:43:23,100 --> 02:43:25,100
operational standards are set

2694
02:43:25,100 --> 02:43:28,100
forward in these health officer

2695
02:43:28,100 --> 02:43:30,401
requirements. There's a signage

2696
02:43:31,100 --> 02:43:33,100
requirement. They're not

2697
02:43:33,100 --> 02:43:34,100
allowed to have those sandwich

2698
02:43:34,100 --> 02:43:35,100
boards and such out front

2699
02:43:35,100 --> 02:43:36,100
to advertise people

2700
02:43:36,100 --> 02:43:38,100
to come in. And then there's

2701
02:43:38,100 --> 02:43:40,100
employee training requirements

2702
02:43:43,100 --> 02:43:46,100
on like ID checks and all those

2703
02:43:46,100 --> 02:43:49,100
safety practices. And this is

2704
02:43:50,100 --> 02:43:51,100
modeled

2705
02:43:51,100 --> 02:43:53,100
after the state regulations.

2706
02:43:53,100 --> 02:43:55,100
And also San Francisco and city

2707
02:43:55,100 --> 02:43:57,401
of Hollywood have allowed

2708
02:43:59,100 --> 02:44:00,100
consumption lounges

2709
02:44:00,100 --> 02:44:01,100
for a while, so we modeled off

2710
02:44:01,100 --> 02:44:04,100
of theirs too, the impacts

2711
02:44:07,100 --> 02:44:10,100
on the cities. Vern, do you

2712
02:44:10,100 --> 02:44:13,100
want to grab this one?

2713
02:44:18,100 --> 02:44:20,100
>> So the health officer

2714
02:44:20,100 --> 02:44:21,100
authority applies

2715
02:44:21,100 --> 02:44:22,100
within the cities

2716
02:44:22,100 --> 02:44:23,100
by agreement, and the chapter

2717
02:44:23,100 --> 02:44:25,100
14 is currently enforceable

2718
02:44:29,100 --> 02:44:31,100
within the cities as an

2719
02:44:31,100 --> 02:44:34,100
extension of the health officer

2720
02:44:35,100 --> 02:44:36,100
authority. There's been

2721
02:44:36,100 --> 02:44:37,100
negotiations and discussions

2722
02:44:37,100 --> 02:44:38,100
with the cities about how much

2723
02:44:38,100 --> 02:44:40,100
county authority exists

2724
02:44:44,100 --> 02:44:45,100
in the form of ordinances

2725
02:44:45,100 --> 02:44:46,100
within city limits

2726
02:44:46,100 --> 02:44:48,401
with discussions with policy

2727
02:44:50,100 --> 02:44:52,100
and what is being suggested.

2728
02:44:52,100 --> 02:44:54,401
There's not a desire

2729
02:44:55,100 --> 02:44:56,100
for the county

2730
02:44:56,100 --> 02:44:58,100
to throw its weight around,

2731
02:44:58,100 --> 02:44:59,100
but it is a desire

2732
02:44:59,100 --> 02:45:01,100
to implement a program within

2733
02:45:01,100 --> 02:45:03,100
the cities if they want them.

2734
02:45:03,100 --> 02:45:04,100
So in this particular case,

2735
02:45:04,100 --> 02:45:07,000
this part of chapter 14 will be

2736
02:45:07,000 --> 02:45:10,000
effective as proposed if the

2737
02:45:10,100 --> 02:45:11,100
cities opt in

2738
02:45:11,100 --> 02:45:12,100
to having cannabis regulations

2739
02:45:12,100 --> 02:45:14,100
by the Department

2740
02:45:14,100 --> 02:45:16,100
of health services

2741
02:45:16,100 --> 02:45:18,100
within city limit.

2742
02:45:18,100 --> 02:45:20,100
Separately, there's a

2743
02:45:22,100 --> 02:45:23,100
discussion about clarifying the

2744
02:45:23,100 --> 02:45:25,100
legal relationship between the

2745
02:45:25,100 --> 02:45:28,100
health officer and the cities

2746
02:45:28,100 --> 02:45:30,401
in a memorandum of

2747
02:45:32,100 --> 02:45:34,100
understanding that will make

2748
02:45:34,100 --> 02:45:35,100
sure that everybody's on the

2749
02:45:35,100 --> 02:45:36,100
Same page about the extent

2750
02:45:36,100 --> 02:45:38,100
of the county authority

2751
02:45:38,100 --> 02:45:40,100
within city limits.

2752
02:45:42,100 --> 02:45:45,100
>> Thank you. So now we're

2753
02:45:45,100 --> 02:45:46,100
going on to septage vehicles.

2754
02:45:46,100 --> 02:45:48,401
So chapter 24, we're looking

2755
02:45:50,100 --> 02:45:51,100
at doing a cleanup,

2756
02:45:51,100 --> 02:45:53,401
this cleanup. Currently our

2757
02:45:54,100 --> 02:45:56,100
regulation requires that

2758
02:45:56,100 --> 02:45:58,100
haulers have a performance

2759
02:45:58,100 --> 02:46:00,100
bond. What we've realized is

2760
02:46:00,100 --> 02:46:02,100
this,

2761
02:46:03,100 --> 02:46:05,100
the regulations have changed.

2762
02:46:05,100 --> 02:46:07,100
It's no longer a requirement.

2763
02:46:07,100 --> 02:46:08,100
And the enforcement through

2764
02:46:08,100 --> 02:46:10,100
penalties is a much more

2765
02:46:10,100 --> 02:46:12,100
effective process for us than

2766
02:46:12,100 --> 02:46:13,100
these performance bonds. So

2767
02:46:13,100 --> 02:46:14,100
we're eliminating the

2768
02:46:14,100 --> 02:46:16,100
requirement for the performance

2769
02:46:16,100 --> 02:46:17,100
bond and then we will use the

2770
02:46:17,100 --> 02:46:18,100
enforcement and penalty process

2771
02:46:18,100 --> 02:46:21,601
in its place. And there's no

2772
02:46:23,100 --> 02:46:25,100
changes

2773
02:46:26,100 --> 02:46:27,100
to public health protections

2774
02:46:27,100 --> 02:46:29,100
through this ordinance change.

2775
02:46:29,100 --> 02:46:32,601
And then the second part of

2776
02:46:33,100 --> 02:46:35,401
this is environmental health

2777
02:46:36,100 --> 02:46:38,100
fees. Normally, environmental

2778
02:46:40,100 --> 02:46:41,100
health fees are done through a

2779
02:46:41,100 --> 02:46:43,100
time task analysis or a fee

2780
02:46:43,100 --> 02:46:46,601
study. And we set fees to

2781
02:46:49,100 --> 02:46:50,100
recover the reasonable

2782
02:46:50,100 --> 02:46:51,100
regulatory costs

2783
02:46:51,100 --> 02:46:53,401
of running the program

2784
02:46:54,100 --> 02:46:55,100
in compliance with Prop 26 and

2785
02:46:55,100 --> 02:46:58,100
then also health and safety

2786
02:47:00,100 --> 02:47:01,100
code. And so what we're looking

2787
02:47:01,100 --> 02:47:04,100
at right now is these are new

2788
02:47:04,100 --> 02:47:07,100
fees for a cannabis consumption

2789
02:47:07,100 --> 02:47:09,100
lounge. And this would be our

2790
02:47:09,100 --> 02:47:10,100
plan review fee,

2791
02:47:10,100 --> 02:47:13,100
which is based on a 10-hour

2792
02:47:13,100 --> 02:47:16,100
minimum plus an hourly rate.

2793
02:47:16,100 --> 02:47:18,100
And then the plan review fee,

2794
02:47:18,100 --> 02:47:20,100
which would also be for

2795
02:47:20,100 --> 02:47:23,100
like minor remodels. And that's

2796
02:47:23,100 --> 02:47:24,100
at a five-hour minimum plus

2797
02:47:24,100 --> 02:47:27,100
hourly rate. A site review fee

2798
02:47:27,100 --> 02:47:30,100
is at a two-hour minimum plus

2799
02:47:30,100 --> 02:47:33,100
hourly rate and then additional

2800
02:47:33,100 --> 02:47:34,100
review hours. Our hourly rate

2801
02:47:34,100 --> 02:47:36,100
right now is 2, 261 an hour.

2802
02:47:36,100 --> 02:47:39,100
And then the annual permit

2803
02:47:39,100 --> 02:47:42,100
would be 2,483. And then the

2804
02:47:45,100 --> 02:47:46,100
fiscal impact of adding this

2805
02:47:46,100 --> 02:47:49,100
program would be an estimated

2806
02:47:50,100 --> 02:47:51,100
increase of revenue

2807
02:47:51,100 --> 02:47:53,100
for fiscal year 26-27 of

2808
02:47:53,100 --> 02:47:55,100
$19,060. And

2809
02:47:55,100 --> 02:47:57,401
for fiscal year 27-28,

2810
02:47:58,100 --> 02:48:00,401
an estimated increase of

2811
02:48:02,100 --> 02:48:04,100
19,632,000. And there's no

2812
02:48:08,100 --> 02:48:09,100
general fund impacts with this

2813
02:48:09,100 --> 02:48:12,601
and it's a fully fee supported

2814
02:48:13,100 --> 02:48:16,100
program. So bringing it back.

2815
02:48:17,100 --> 02:48:19,100
Our requested actions are we're

2816
02:48:19,100 --> 02:48:22,100
requesting that the board adopt

2817
02:48:23,100 --> 02:48:24,100
the proposed resolution

2818
02:48:24,100 --> 02:48:26,100
introducing the ordinance

2819
02:48:26,100 --> 02:48:28,100
amendments and finding a CEQA

2820
02:48:28,100 --> 02:48:30,100
exemption and then also

2821
02:48:30,100 --> 02:48:32,100
adopting the environmental

2822
02:48:33,100 --> 02:48:36,100
health fee resolution. I think

2823
02:48:36,100 --> 02:48:37,100
that's. I should go back.

2824
02:48:37,100 --> 02:48:39,100
>> Thank you. And

2825
02:48:39,100 --> 02:48:40,100
with that we'll go

2826
02:48:40,100 --> 02:48:43,100
to public comment. Seeing none.

2827
02:48:44,100 --> 02:48:45,100
I'll bring it back to the board

2828
02:48:45,100 --> 02:48:47,100
if there's questions.

2829
02:48:49,100 --> 02:48:50,100
Comments? Supervisor Rabbitt?

2830
02:48:50,100 --> 02:48:51,100
>> Yeah. I just want

2831
02:48:51,100 --> 02:48:52,100
to say thank you for working

2832
02:48:52,100 --> 02:48:54,100
through this. Thank you,

2833
02:48:54,100 --> 02:48:56,100
Vern, for working

2834
02:48:56,100 --> 02:48:57,100
through the. The city issue as

2835
02:48:57,100 --> 02:49:00,100
well. What? There's only two

2836
02:49:00,100 --> 02:49:02,100
cities I know of in California

2837
02:49:02,100 --> 02:49:05,100
that have their own public

2838
02:49:07,100 --> 02:49:09,100
health officer. Right.

2839
02:49:09,100 --> 02:49:10,100
Berkeley and Long Beach. And I

2840
02:49:10,100 --> 02:49:11,100
think sometimes our cities here

2841
02:49:11,100 --> 02:49:12,100
kind of forget that there's a

2842
02:49:12,100 --> 02:49:13,100
collaborative approach that we

2843
02:49:13,100 --> 02:49:14,100
need to take

2844
02:49:14,100 --> 02:49:15,100
on certain issues. So thank you

2845
02:49:15,100 --> 02:49:16,100
for all that. I appreciate that

2846
02:49:16,100 --> 02:49:17,100
approach. I'm curious because I

2847
02:49:17,100 --> 02:49:20,100
don't want to be a hypocrite.

2848
02:49:20,100 --> 02:49:21,100
And we had this discussion, I

2849
02:49:21,100 --> 02:49:22,100
think, during the briefing. Do

2850
02:49:22,100 --> 02:49:23,100
we have legal

2851
02:49:23,100 --> 02:49:24,100
like cigar and cigarette

2852
02:49:24,100 --> 02:49:25,100
lounges in the county?

2853
02:49:25,100 --> 02:49:28,100
>> So we do. I don't believe

2854
02:49:28,100 --> 02:49:30,100
that any are

2855
02:49:30,100 --> 02:49:31,100
in the unincorporated area,

2856
02:49:31,100 --> 02:49:33,401
but I would have

2857
02:49:35,100 --> 02:49:38,100
to confirm that it is a. Not a

2858
02:49:38,100 --> 02:49:39,100
function of local authority,

2859
02:49:39,100 --> 02:49:40,100
though, because it's exemption

2860
02:49:40,100 --> 02:49:43,100
in the state smoking law. So

2861
02:49:43,100 --> 02:49:45,401
those are specifically governed

2862
02:49:47,100 --> 02:49:49,100
by the state smoking law, and

2863
02:49:49,100 --> 02:49:51,100
which includes a preemption

2864
02:49:51,100 --> 02:49:53,100
provision. So interestingly,

2865
02:49:53,100 --> 02:49:54,100
we don't have authority

2866
02:49:54,100 --> 02:49:55,100
at all,

2867
02:49:55,100 --> 02:49:56,100
nor do the cities really

2868
02:49:56,100 --> 02:49:58,100
over that, except maybe on a

2869
02:49:58,100 --> 02:50:00,100
business license basis.

2870
02:50:00,100 --> 02:50:02,100
>> So all of our. So what

2871
02:50:02,100 --> 02:50:03,100
you're saying is that every.

2872
02:50:03,100 --> 02:50:04,100
All the times that the lung

2873
02:50:04,100 --> 02:50:06,100
association used

2874
02:50:07,100 --> 02:50:08,100
to come and try to get us

2875
02:50:08,100 --> 02:50:10,100
to get an A plus or whatever

2876
02:50:10,100 --> 02:50:12,100
on the ordinance,

2877
02:50:12,100 --> 02:50:13,100
that was really just. We're

2878
02:50:13,100 --> 02:50:15,100
always following the state law

2879
02:50:15,100 --> 02:50:16,100
necessarily, do we. We don't

2880
02:50:16,100 --> 02:50:17,100
have any

2881
02:50:17,100 --> 02:50:18,100
of our own laws that add to

2882
02:50:18,100 --> 02:50:20,100
that.

2883
02:50:20,100 --> 02:50:21,100
>> I would not say that. I

2884
02:50:21,100 --> 02:50:22,100
would say that we deserve our a

2885
02:50:22,100 --> 02:50:24,100
plus. We have.

2886
02:50:26,100 --> 02:50:27,100
>> I just don't want to be a

2887
02:50:27,100 --> 02:50:29,100
hypocrite saying that you, hey,

2888
02:50:29,100 --> 02:50:30,100
you can go and smoke

2889
02:50:30,100 --> 02:50:32,100
in one lounge, but you can't,

2890
02:50:32,100 --> 02:50:33,100
you know, And I do worry,

2891
02:50:33,100 --> 02:50:35,100
obviously. I mean,

2892
02:50:35,100 --> 02:50:37,100
smoke is smoke in my book. If

2893
02:50:37,100 --> 02:50:38,100
it's unhealthy,

2894
02:50:38,100 --> 02:50:41,601
it's unhealthy. So that is my

2895
02:50:42,100 --> 02:50:44,100
point and I appreciate that. I

2896
02:50:44,100 --> 02:50:47,601
take it that as we go

2897
02:50:48,100 --> 02:50:50,100
down this path, is there. Are

2898
02:50:50,100 --> 02:50:51,100
there performance metrics for,

2899
02:50:51,100 --> 02:50:52,100
I take it that the air exchange

2900
02:50:52,100 --> 02:50:53,100
would have to be adequate

2901
02:50:53,100 --> 02:50:54,100
for the capacity

2902
02:50:54,100 --> 02:50:56,100
of the lounge, the maximum

2903
02:50:56,100 --> 02:50:58,100
capacity and everyone exhaling

2904
02:50:58,100 --> 02:50:59,100
at once or something to make

2905
02:50:59,100 --> 02:51:02,601
sure that we can provide some

2906
02:51:03,100 --> 02:51:05,100
sort of safety. I do worry

2907
02:51:05,100 --> 02:51:07,100
about the employee safety,

2908
02:51:07,100 --> 02:51:10,100
but I suppose that's going

2909
02:51:10,100 --> 02:51:11,100
to be between the establishment

2910
02:51:11,100 --> 02:51:13,401
and their own employees,

2911
02:51:14,100 --> 02:51:15,100
and we don't have any liability

2912
02:51:15,100 --> 02:51:16,100
within that. Did I say anything

2913
02:51:16,100 --> 02:51:18,100
wrong?

2914
02:51:20,100 --> 02:51:21,100
>> No. I would say Christine

2915
02:51:21,100 --> 02:51:23,401
and I facilitated a

2916
02:51:25,100 --> 02:51:27,100
conversation with Permit

2917
02:51:27,100 --> 02:51:28,100
Sonoma about just what was

2918
02:51:28,100 --> 02:51:30,100
appropriate given the nature

2919
02:51:30,100 --> 02:51:32,100
of this. And

2920
02:51:32,100 --> 02:51:34,100
after a discussion with

2921
02:51:34,100 --> 02:51:36,100
Deputy Director Nathan

2922
02:51:36,100 --> 02:51:39,100
Quarles, the decision was made

2923
02:51:40,100 --> 02:51:42,100
that an engineered H VAC system

2924
02:51:42,100 --> 02:51:43,100
is required on these. That it

2925
02:51:43,100 --> 02:51:46,100
actually has to be not. Not a

2926
02:51:46,100 --> 02:51:48,100
run of the mill sort

2927
02:51:48,100 --> 02:51:50,100
of contractor. And that that

2928
02:51:50,100 --> 02:51:52,100
has to do with just sort

2929
02:51:52,100 --> 02:51:55,100
of the higher level of

2930
02:51:55,100 --> 02:51:57,401
complexity that you were

2931
02:51:59,100 --> 02:52:00,100
pointing out.

2932
02:52:00,100 --> 02:52:01,100
>> Yeah, again, I'm supportive.

2933
02:52:01,100 --> 02:52:03,100
I just had those questions and

2934
02:52:03,100 --> 02:52:05,100
or comments and appreciate the

2935
02:52:05,100 --> 02:52:07,100
work. Thank you.

2936
02:52:08,100 --> 02:52:09,100
>> Thank you.

2937
02:52:09,100 --> 02:52:11,100
>> Vice Chair Coursey.

2938
02:52:13,100 --> 02:52:14,100
>> Thanks. Thanks for the work

2939
02:52:14,100 --> 02:52:16,100
on this. It feels like it's

2940
02:52:16,100 --> 02:52:19,100
been a process I think we.

2941
02:52:19,100 --> 02:52:20,100
We've discussed this

2942
02:52:20,100 --> 02:52:21,100
at least three times

2943
02:52:21,100 --> 02:52:22,100
over the last six months or so.

2944
02:52:22,100 --> 02:52:24,401
And from the lack

2945
02:52:25,100 --> 02:52:27,100
of public comment, I'm assuming

2946
02:52:27,100 --> 02:52:29,100
that things have worked out

2947
02:52:29,100 --> 02:52:31,100
with the community that's

2948
02:52:31,100 --> 02:52:33,100
interested

2949
02:52:33,100 --> 02:52:35,100
in this. I didn't hear anything

2950
02:52:35,100 --> 02:52:37,401
about the outdoor areas

2951
02:52:40,100 --> 02:52:42,100
around these lounges. Is this

2952
02:52:42,100 --> 02:52:44,100
all to take place indoors, no

2953
02:52:44,100 --> 02:52:46,401
consumption patios or anything

2954
02:52:47,100 --> 02:52:49,100
like that?

2955
02:52:51,100 --> 02:52:52,100
>> A lot of the outdoor areas

2956
02:52:52,100 --> 02:52:54,100
are covered

2957
02:52:55,100 --> 02:52:56,100
through the permit Sonoma, the

2958
02:52:56,100 --> 02:52:58,100
land use ordinance and the

2959
02:52:58,100 --> 02:53:01,100
mitigation there. As far as the

2960
02:53:01,100 --> 02:53:04,100
smoke and smoke not leaving

2961
02:53:04,100 --> 02:53:05,100
that outdoor patio,

2962
02:53:05,100 --> 02:53:07,401
that will be part

2963
02:53:09,100 --> 02:53:11,100
of the discussion. I mean,

2964
02:53:11,100 --> 02:53:13,100
how you keep it confined

2965
02:53:13,100 --> 02:53:14,100
in an outdoor patio is going

2966
02:53:14,100 --> 02:53:16,100
to be difficult. But as far as

2967
02:53:16,100 --> 02:53:19,100
setbacks and that all that

2968
02:53:19,100 --> 02:53:21,100
approval will go

2969
02:53:23,100 --> 02:53:25,100
through your land use.

2970
02:53:25,100 --> 02:53:27,100
>> Okay.

2971
02:53:27,100 --> 02:53:28,100
>> I would add one. One detail

2972
02:53:28,100 --> 02:53:30,100
just to highlight it for you,

2973
02:53:30,100 --> 02:53:31,100
Supervisor, which is that the.

2974
02:53:31,100 --> 02:53:33,401
The county's smoking ordinance,

2975
02:53:35,100 --> 02:53:37,100
chapter 32, does have

2976
02:53:38,100 --> 02:53:40,100
applications outdoors

2977
02:53:40,100 --> 02:53:42,401
in a lot of.

2978
02:53:44,100 --> 02:53:45,100
In the unincorporated area.

2979
02:53:45,100 --> 02:53:47,100
And what the ordinance does is

2980
02:53:47,100 --> 02:53:49,100
make events exempt

2981
02:53:49,100 --> 02:53:51,100
from chapter 32 if they are

2982
02:53:51,100 --> 02:53:53,401
permitted by the Department

2983
02:53:54,100 --> 02:53:56,100
of Cannabis Control. So there

2984
02:53:56,100 --> 02:53:59,100
really won't be help permitting

2985
02:53:59,100 --> 02:54:01,100
of things like the fairgrounds.

2986
02:54:01,100 --> 02:54:04,100
I'm anticipating that would be

2987
02:54:04,100 --> 02:54:06,100
an example. And then the

2988
02:54:06,100 --> 02:54:08,401
smoking ordinance also has

2989
02:54:09,100 --> 02:54:11,401
designated smoking areas that

2990
02:54:13,100 --> 02:54:16,100
are required in certain outdoor

2991
02:54:16,100 --> 02:54:17,100
smoking situations, and that

2992
02:54:17,100 --> 02:54:19,100
ordinance will still apply.

2993
02:54:19,100 --> 02:54:22,100
>> Okay. And as far as

2994
02:54:23,100 --> 02:54:24,100
employees in these lounges,

2995
02:54:24,100 --> 02:54:27,601
how does. How does OSHA Cal.

2996
02:54:29,100 --> 02:54:30,100
OSHA figure into that?

2997
02:54:30,100 --> 02:54:33,100
>> They are required to comply

2998
02:54:39,100 --> 02:54:41,100
with OSHA requirements.

2999
02:54:41,100 --> 02:54:43,100
In a nutshell,

3000
02:54:43,100 --> 02:54:44,100
I believe that that's part

3001
02:54:44,100 --> 02:54:47,100
of the plan that's required

3002
02:54:47,100 --> 02:54:50,100
to protect the state law

3003
02:54:51,100 --> 02:54:54,601
on this did make it mandatory

3004
02:54:55,100 --> 02:54:57,100
for these businesses

3005
02:54:57,100 --> 02:54:59,100
to allow their employees

3006
02:54:59,100 --> 02:55:01,100
to wear masks and at the.

3007
02:55:01,100 --> 02:55:04,100
At the business's expense. So

3008
02:55:07,100 --> 02:55:09,100
the legislature had that in

3009
02:55:09,100 --> 02:55:10,100
mind when it authorized this

3010
02:55:10,100 --> 02:55:12,100
use.

3011
02:55:13,100 --> 02:55:15,100
>> Okay. It is addressed. All

3012
02:55:15,100 --> 02:55:16,100
right, thank you.

3013
02:55:16,100 --> 02:55:19,100
>> I would just add that

3014
02:55:20,100 --> 02:55:21,100
Chapter 32, the Smoking

3015
02:55:21,100 --> 02:55:23,100
Ordinance still is applicable.

3016
02:55:23,100 --> 02:55:24,100
Like in the front

3017
02:55:24,100 --> 02:55:26,100
of the business and

3018
02:55:26,100 --> 02:55:28,100
around a business. There's no

3019
02:55:28,100 --> 02:55:29,100
smoking allowed

3020
02:55:29,100 --> 02:55:31,100
out front.

3021
02:55:31,100 --> 02:55:33,100
>> Thank you.

3022
02:55:33,100 --> 02:55:35,100
>> Thank you. I did. I did have

3023
02:55:35,100 --> 02:55:37,100
one question. What outreach has

3024
02:55:37,100 --> 02:55:39,100
been done with our city

3025
02:55:39,100 --> 02:55:41,100
partners and what city partners

3026
02:55:41,100 --> 02:55:43,401
have been chatted with?

3027
02:55:48,100 --> 02:55:50,100
>> So we've spoke with the city

3028
02:55:50,100 --> 02:55:53,100
managers and city council and

3029
02:55:54,100 --> 02:55:56,100
done outreach there,

3030
02:55:57,100 --> 02:55:58,100
but we've also done a lot

3031
02:55:58,100 --> 02:55:59,100
of outreach through the

3032
02:55:59,100 --> 02:56:01,100
community groups and the

3033
02:56:01,100 --> 02:56:03,100
different tobacco. Tobacco

3034
02:56:06,100 --> 02:56:08,100
groups in the area and also the

3035
02:56:08,100 --> 02:56:09,100
cannabis working groups and

3036
02:56:09,100 --> 02:56:11,100
their legal representatives.

3037
02:56:12,100 --> 02:56:14,100
>> And is it all cities

3038
02:56:14,100 --> 02:56:16,100
in the county?

3039
02:56:19,100 --> 02:56:20,100
>> So chapter 14 does,

3040
02:56:20,100 --> 02:56:21,100
by default

3041
02:56:21,100 --> 02:56:23,100
of the health officer, apply

3042
02:56:23,100 --> 02:56:24,100
to all cities in the county.

3043
02:56:24,100 --> 02:56:26,100
What's different about the

3044
02:56:26,100 --> 02:56:27,100
cannabis subsection is it's

3045
02:56:27,100 --> 02:56:28,100
going to require the cities

3046
02:56:28,100 --> 02:56:32,100
to opt in. So in a sense,

3047
02:56:32,100 --> 02:56:33,100
whereas we are have

3048
02:56:33,100 --> 02:56:34,100
historically taken the position

3049
02:56:34,100 --> 02:56:36,100
that our existing cannabis

3050
02:56:36,100 --> 02:56:38,100
permits are valid and are

3051
02:56:38,100 --> 02:56:39,100
required in the city limits

3052
02:56:39,100 --> 02:56:41,100
in all cities. Yes, this will

3053
02:56:41,100 --> 02:56:43,100
require that the cities opt in

3054
02:56:43,100 --> 02:56:44,100
to these permits,

3055
02:56:44,100 --> 02:56:46,100
particular requirements. We've

3056
02:56:46,100 --> 02:56:48,100
had extensive discussions

3057
02:56:49,100 --> 02:56:50,100
through the city managers

3058
02:56:50,100 --> 02:56:52,100
meetings, city,

3059
02:56:52,100 --> 02:56:54,100
that is the name

3060
02:56:54,100 --> 02:56:57,100
of the group, I guess,

3061
02:56:57,100 --> 02:56:58,100
and then also through council

3062
02:56:58,100 --> 02:57:01,100
with the city attorneys. And we

3063
02:57:01,100 --> 02:57:03,401
don't have a list

3064
02:57:05,100 --> 02:57:08,100
of cities that are anticipating

3065
02:57:08,100 --> 02:57:09,100
to opt in, although I will say

3066
02:57:09,100 --> 02:57:11,100
that the separate MOU that I

3067
02:57:11,100 --> 02:57:13,100
mentioned, the city of Santa

3068
02:57:13,100 --> 02:57:15,100
Rosa, has already said through

3069
02:57:15,100 --> 02:57:17,100
their council that they are

3070
02:57:17,100 --> 02:57:19,100
going to opt in. And some of

3071
02:57:19,100 --> 02:57:20,100
the other cities have more

3072
02:57:20,100 --> 02:57:22,100
detailed questions. Frankly,

3073
02:57:22,100 --> 02:57:24,100
it's an interesting legal

3074
02:57:24,100 --> 02:57:25,100
question because city attorneys

3075
02:57:25,100 --> 02:57:26,100
typically do not deal

3076
02:57:26,100 --> 02:57:28,100
with health

3077
02:57:28,100 --> 02:57:29,100
for the reasons that

3078
02:57:29,100 --> 02:57:31,100
Supervisor Rabbitt identified.

3079
02:57:32,100 --> 02:57:35,100
So, you know, it's an ongoing

3080
02:57:35,100 --> 02:57:36,100
discussion and there have been

3081
02:57:36,100 --> 02:57:37,100
extensive discussions

3082
02:57:37,100 --> 02:57:39,100
with each

3083
02:57:40,100 --> 02:57:42,100
of the city attorneys and

3084
02:57:42,100 --> 02:57:43,100
with all

3085
02:57:43,100 --> 02:57:45,100
of the city managers.

3086
02:57:45,100 --> 02:57:46,100
>> Thank you.

3087
02:57:46,100 --> 02:57:47,100
>> I want to thank the staff

3088
02:57:47,100 --> 02:57:48,100
because they have been

3089
02:57:48,100 --> 02:57:49,100
judicious

3090
02:57:49,100 --> 02:57:51,100
about taking advantage

3091
02:57:51,100 --> 02:57:53,100
of when I am invited to the

3092
02:57:53,100 --> 02:57:54,100
monthly city managers and think

3093
02:57:54,100 --> 02:57:56,100
once, if not twice, certainly,

3094
02:57:56,100 --> 02:57:58,100
I think. Christine, explain

3095
02:57:58,100 --> 02:58:01,100
with the help of Vern

3096
02:58:01,100 --> 02:58:02,100
to the city managers. You know,

3097
02:58:02,100 --> 02:58:04,401
how they've been trying

3098
02:58:05,100 --> 02:58:08,100
to weave in the conversation as

3099
02:58:08,100 --> 02:58:09,100
surprise. Rabbitt said that we

3100
02:58:09,100 --> 02:58:11,100
have, you know, smoking

3101
02:58:11,100 --> 02:58:13,100
cessation and no smoking type

3102
02:58:13,100 --> 02:58:14,100
of thing. And also businesses

3103
02:58:14,100 --> 02:58:16,100
that are were designed to do

3104
02:58:16,100 --> 02:58:18,100
some lounge cannabis

3105
02:58:18,100 --> 02:58:20,401
consumption. So I'm very

3106
02:58:22,100 --> 02:58:23,100
grateful for the way that staff

3107
02:58:23,100 --> 02:58:25,100
brought it up because we are

3108
02:58:25,100 --> 02:58:27,100
maintaining our no smoking

3109
02:58:27,100 --> 02:58:29,100
in the unincorporated area,

3110
02:58:29,100 --> 02:58:31,100
but we are not. We're not

3111
02:58:31,100 --> 02:58:32,100
foregoing that opportunity

3112
02:58:32,100 --> 02:58:34,100
for the cities who want

3113
02:58:34,100 --> 02:58:36,100
to opt in. So we have been in

3114
02:58:36,100 --> 02:58:38,100
constant contact and been able

3115
02:58:38,100 --> 02:58:40,100
to educate them

3116
02:58:41,100 --> 02:58:44,100
along the way because as Vern

3117
02:58:44,100 --> 02:58:45,100
said, the public health officer

3118
02:58:45,100 --> 02:58:48,100
portion of the business is not

3119
02:58:48,100 --> 02:58:51,100
something that the cities do.

3120
02:58:51,100 --> 02:58:52,100
>> Thank you. Great. Thank you.

3121
02:58:52,100 --> 02:58:53,100
Seeing no more questions

3122
02:58:53,100 --> 02:58:54,100
for my colleagues. Is there a

3123
02:58:54,100 --> 02:58:55,100
motion?

3124
02:58:55,100 --> 02:58:57,100
>> So moved, Rabbitt.

3125
02:58:57,100 --> 02:58:58,100
>> Is there a second?

3126
02:58:58,100 --> 02:59:00,100
>> Second.

3127
02:59:00,100 --> 02:59:04,201
>> Can I get a roll call vote?

3128
02:59:06,100 --> 02:59:08,100
>> Supervisor Rabbitt?

3129
02:59:08,100 --> 02:59:09,100
>> Aye.

3130
02:59:09,100 --> 02:59:10,100
>> Supervisor Coursey?

3131
02:59:10,100 --> 02:59:11,100
>> Yes.

3132
02:59:11,100 --> 02:59:12,100
>> Supervisor Gore recused.

3133
02:59:12,100 --> 02:59:14,100
>> Supervisor Hopkins?

3134
02:59:14,100 --> 02:59:15,100
>> Yes.

3135
02:59:15,100 --> 02:59:16,100
>> Chair Hermosillo?

3136
02:59:16,100 --> 02:59:18,100
>> Yes.

3137
02:59:18,100 --> 02:59:20,100
>> Thank you.

3138
02:59:21,100 --> 02:59:22,100
>> And with that, Director

3139
02:59:22,100 --> 02:59:23,100
Sullivan, don't go far. We're

3140
02:59:23,100 --> 02:59:24,100
moving on

3141
02:59:24,100 --> 02:59:26,100
to measure O and we have

3142
02:59:26,100 --> 02:59:28,100
Director Sullivan, Aleya

3143
02:59:30,100 --> 02:59:32,401
Tantarelli and David Heidt.

3144
02:59:33,100 --> 02:59:36,601
>> Make sure that he comes in.

3145
02:59:38,100 --> 02:59:40,401
>> Sio Rivera is going

3146
02:59:41,100 --> 02:59:43,401
to wrangle. Supervisor Gore.

3147
02:59:44,100 --> 02:59:47,601
Give us one second. Stop it.

3148
03:01:08,100 --> 03:01:10,401
That's aggressive tone. Right

3149
03:01:12,100 --> 03:01:13,100
now. We're all ready.

3150
03:01:13,100 --> 03:01:14,100
>> All right. All right.

3151
03:01:14,100 --> 03:01:15,100
Well, good afternoon now.

3152
03:01:15,100 --> 03:01:17,100
Supervisor Hermosillo and

3153
03:01:17,100 --> 03:01:18,100
board. Thank you so much

3154
03:01:18,100 --> 03:01:19,100
for the audience today. Saving

3155
03:01:19,100 --> 03:01:21,100
the best for last,

3156
03:01:21,100 --> 03:01:22,100
which I really appreciate. So

3157
03:01:22,100 --> 03:01:23,100
thank you for that. We have a

3158
03:01:23,100 --> 03:01:24,100
really great presentation today

3159
03:01:24,100 --> 03:01:26,100
for you on Measure O. We do

3160
03:01:26,100 --> 03:01:27,100
recognize that we're standing

3161
03:01:27,100 --> 03:01:29,100
between you and lunch, so we'll

3162
03:01:29,100 --> 03:01:30,100
make this education educational

3163
03:01:30,100 --> 03:01:31,100
but expeditious. First thing I

3164
03:01:31,100 --> 03:01:32,100
want to point out,

3165
03:01:32,100 --> 03:01:33,100
and I see some

3166
03:01:33,100 --> 03:01:34,100
of you reading it,

3167
03:01:34,100 --> 03:01:35,100
we have our brand new hot

3168
03:01:35,100 --> 03:01:36,100
off the presses. They're

3169
03:01:36,100 --> 03:01:38,100
probably still warm. Annual

3170
03:01:38,100 --> 03:01:39,100
Measure O report, full of

3171
03:01:39,100 --> 03:01:40,100
really great stats and data and

3172
03:01:40,100 --> 03:01:41,100
sharing all

3173
03:01:41,100 --> 03:01:42,100
of the wonderful things

3174
03:01:42,100 --> 03:01:43,100
with the public that we do.

3175
03:01:43,100 --> 03:01:44,100
And so this is kicking

3176
03:01:44,100 --> 03:01:45,100
off sort of our public

3177
03:01:45,100 --> 03:01:47,100
information campaign on all of

3178
03:01:47,100 --> 03:01:48,100
the wonderful things that are.

3179
03:01:48,100 --> 03:01:50,100
That are Measure O. So if you

3180
03:01:50,100 --> 03:01:51,100
have any questions there or

3181
03:01:51,100 --> 03:01:52,100
comments or concerns, please

3182
03:01:52,100 --> 03:01:53,100
let us know and we will dive

3183
03:01:53,100 --> 03:01:55,100
into our presentation today.

3184
03:01:55,100 --> 03:01:56,100
So. So I am Nolan Sullivan, the

3185
03:01:56,100 --> 03:01:58,100
Department of Health Services

3186
03:01:58,100 --> 03:01:59,100
director. I am joined here

3187
03:01:59,100 --> 03:02:00,100
today by David Hyatt and

3188
03:02:00,100 --> 03:02:01,100
Aliyah Tantrelli. And I wanted

3189
03:02:01,100 --> 03:02:02,100
to thank these two really quick

3190
03:02:02,100 --> 03:02:03,100
before we dive in. These

3191
03:02:03,100 --> 03:02:05,100
presentations oftentimes come

3192
03:02:05,100 --> 03:02:06,100
to the board and they look

3193
03:02:06,100 --> 03:02:07,100
packaged and simple and clean

3194
03:02:07,100 --> 03:02:10,100
and easy to follow. These two

3195
03:02:10,100 --> 03:02:12,100
have put in probably hundreds

3196
03:02:12,100 --> 03:02:13,100
of hours of work. They are

3197
03:02:13,100 --> 03:02:15,100
expert cat herders and really

3198
03:02:15,100 --> 03:02:16,100
have just done a wonderful job

3199
03:02:16,100 --> 03:02:17,100
sort

3200
03:02:17,100 --> 03:02:18,100
of wrangling the enigma that is

3201
03:02:18,100 --> 03:02:19,100
Measure O. The ad hocs,

3202
03:02:19,100 --> 03:02:20,100
the oversight committees

3203
03:02:20,100 --> 03:02:22,100
meeting with different

3204
03:02:22,100 --> 03:02:23,100
electives and just. They are

3205
03:02:23,100 --> 03:02:24,100
the smartest,

3206
03:02:24,100 --> 03:02:25,100
most dedicated people that I

3207
03:02:25,100 --> 03:02:26,100
get to work with. And I'm just

3208
03:02:26,100 --> 03:02:27,100
really proud

3209
03:02:27,100 --> 03:02:28,100
of their work today. So I want

3210
03:02:28,100 --> 03:02:30,100
to thank them before we dive in

3211
03:02:30,100 --> 03:02:31,100
today because they're awesome.

3212
03:02:31,100 --> 03:02:34,100
Next slide, please. We are

3213
03:02:34,100 --> 03:02:35,100
going to dive in and talk

3214
03:02:35,100 --> 03:02:36,100
about all sorts

3215
03:02:36,100 --> 03:02:37,100
of different things today.

3216
03:02:37,100 --> 03:02:38,100
What I hope you will take away

3217
03:02:38,100 --> 03:02:39,100
from today and what I hope the

3218
03:02:39,100 --> 03:02:40,100
public will take away today and

3219
03:02:40,100 --> 03:02:41,100
I hope the press will take away

3220
03:02:41,100 --> 03:02:42,100
from today is the impact that

3221
03:02:42,100 --> 03:02:43,100
measure I was making every

3222
03:02:43,100 --> 03:02:45,100
single day in Sonoma County.

3223
03:02:45,100 --> 03:02:46,100
You know, one of the things

3224
03:02:46,100 --> 03:02:47,100
that is really hard with the

3225
03:02:47,100 --> 03:02:49,100
behavioral health system is

3226
03:02:49,100 --> 03:02:51,100
to explain what a dollar does

3227
03:02:51,100 --> 03:02:53,100
for a psychiatric bed or

3228
03:02:53,100 --> 03:02:54,100
substance use treatment or

3229
03:02:54,100 --> 03:02:56,100
crisis system of care and

3230
03:02:56,100 --> 03:02:57,100
really explaining the sheer

3231
03:02:57,100 --> 03:02:59,100
impact and value that it is

3232
03:02:59,100 --> 03:03:01,100
providing all over the place.

3233
03:03:01,100 --> 03:03:02,100
Lots of our different electeds

3234
03:03:02,100 --> 03:03:03,100
and constituents are concerned

3235
03:03:03,100 --> 03:03:05,100
about where Measure O is going.

3236
03:03:05,100 --> 03:03:06,100
They have questions. They're

3237
03:03:06,100 --> 03:03:07,100
right. I understand why they

3238
03:03:07,100 --> 03:03:09,100
have questions. But it is

3239
03:03:09,100 --> 03:03:10,100
making a tremendous difference

3240
03:03:10,100 --> 03:03:12,100
in the county. So much so that

3241
03:03:12,100 --> 03:03:13,100
it is pumping about 55 million

3242
03:03:13,100 --> 03:03:16,100
back into Sonoma county to fund

3243
03:03:16,100 --> 03:03:18,100
our critical behavioral health

3244
03:03:18,100 --> 03:03:20,100
safety net. And of that $55

3245
03:03:20,100 --> 03:03:21,100
million,

3246
03:03:21,100 --> 03:03:23,100
it helps us leverage so 33

3247
03:03:23,100 --> 03:03:24,100
million as direct Measure O

3248
03:03:24,100 --> 03:03:26,100
expenditures. And we're able to

3249
03:03:26,100 --> 03:03:27,100
leverage an additional 20/

3250
03:03:27,100 --> 03:03:29,100
million dollars in Federal

3251
03:03:29,100 --> 03:03:30,100
money. So if we didn't have

3252
03:03:30,100 --> 03:03:31,100
Measure O,

3253
03:03:31,100 --> 03:03:32,100
not only we would not have the

3254
03:03:32,100 --> 03:03:33,100
30 million that we spent,

3255
03:03:33,100 --> 03:03:34,100
we would not have 20 million

3256
03:03:34,100 --> 03:03:35,100
extra dollars in federal

3257
03:03:35,100 --> 03:03:36,100
revenue that we're able

3258
03:03:36,100 --> 03:03:38,100
to draw down. So a huge gift

3259
03:03:38,100 --> 03:03:39,100
for. For us. We're going

3260
03:03:39,100 --> 03:03:41,100
to talk about a couple

3261
03:03:41,100 --> 03:03:42,100
different things today. We're

3262
03:03:42,100 --> 03:03:43,100
going to talk

3263
03:03:43,100 --> 03:03:44,100
about who the county serves.

3264
03:03:44,100 --> 03:03:45,100
Oftentimes people say we're

3265
03:03:45,100 --> 03:03:46,100
like the behavioral health czar

3266
03:03:46,100 --> 03:03:48,100
of the county. That is not,

3267
03:03:48,100 --> 03:03:49,100
in fact, the case. And we'll

3268
03:03:49,100 --> 03:03:50,100
talk briefly about that. We'll

3269
03:03:50,100 --> 03:03:51,100
go really quickly into what

3270
03:03:51,100 --> 03:03:52,100
Measure O is. We'll talk

3271
03:03:52,100 --> 03:03:54,100
about the expenditure plan.

3272
03:03:54,100 --> 03:03:55,100
We'll tell you all about where

3273
03:03:55,100 --> 03:03:57,100
we expended and where we

3274
03:03:57,100 --> 03:03:58,100
received revenues

3275
03:03:58,100 --> 03:04:01,100
from EZERO this year. We'll

3276
03:04:01,100 --> 03:04:03,100
talk a little bit

3277
03:04:03,100 --> 03:04:05,100
about the gross expenditures

3278
03:04:05,100 --> 03:04:06,100
by program. I do want

3279
03:04:06,100 --> 03:04:07,100
to spend some time on the fund

3280
03:04:07,100 --> 03:04:08,100
balance. I've got some good

3281
03:04:08,100 --> 03:04:09,100
news and some bad news there.

3282
03:04:09,100 --> 03:04:10,100
We'll talk

3283
03:04:10,100 --> 03:04:11,100
about that today a little bit,

3284
03:04:11,100 --> 03:04:12,100
too. And then really next steps

3285
03:04:12,100 --> 03:04:13,100
and kind of where we're going

3286
03:04:13,100 --> 03:04:14,100
to head with Measure O will

3287
03:04:14,100 --> 03:04:15,100
close us out. So the first

3288
03:04:15,100 --> 03:04:16,100
slide here, please. I started

3289
03:04:16,100 --> 03:04:18,100
with this slide on purpose, and

3290
03:04:18,100 --> 03:04:20,100
I think it's really important

3291
03:04:20,100 --> 03:04:21,100
to ground the conversation

3292
03:04:21,100 --> 03:04:22,100
whenever we're talking

3293
03:04:22,100 --> 03:04:23,100
about county behavioral health,

3294
03:04:23,100 --> 03:04:24,100
on what the county is actually

3295
03:04:24,100 --> 03:04:26,100
responsible for. So this chart

3296
03:04:26,100 --> 03:04:28,100
that you're seeing ahead of you

3297
03:04:28,100 --> 03:04:29,100
is really the behavioral health

3298
03:04:29,100 --> 03:04:30,100
system of care

3299
03:04:30,100 --> 03:04:31,100
for the entire county. So

3300
03:04:31,100 --> 03:04:33,401
We've got about 470,000 people

3301
03:04:35,100 --> 03:04:36,100
here in Sonoma County, and

3302
03:04:36,100 --> 03:04:37,100
everyone gets to their

3303
03:04:37,100 --> 03:04:39,100
behavioral health care, whether

3304
03:04:39,100 --> 03:04:40,100
that be mental health care or

3305
03:04:40,100 --> 03:04:41,100
substance use care

3306
03:04:41,100 --> 03:04:43,100
in different ways. And so

3307
03:04:43,100 --> 03:04:45,100
oftentimes you'll hear folks or

3308
03:04:45,100 --> 03:04:46,100
you'll hear the community,

3309
03:04:46,100 --> 03:04:47,100
or you'll have people come up

3310
03:04:47,100 --> 03:04:49,100
to the dais and say, county,

3311
03:04:49,100 --> 03:04:50,100
you need to fund X, Y or Z.

3312
03:04:50,100 --> 03:04:53,100
You need to do better in this

3313
03:04:53,100 --> 03:04:54,100
behavioral health category.

3314
03:04:54,100 --> 03:04:56,100
The county runs a mental health

3315
03:04:56,100 --> 03:04:58,100
plan through Medi Cal, and we

3316
03:04:58,100 --> 03:05:00,100
are required to serve the SMI

3317
03:05:00,100 --> 03:05:01,100
population only. And I want

3318
03:05:01,100 --> 03:05:03,100
to be very clear about that.

3319
03:05:03,100 --> 03:05:05,100
So the county's mandate,

3320
03:05:05,100 --> 03:05:07,100
what we're funded for, for what

3321
03:05:07,100 --> 03:05:08,100
we get medical revenues for,

3322
03:05:08,100 --> 03:05:11,100
what we can use Measure O

3323
03:05:11,100 --> 03:05:12,100
dollars on, is about 4,000

3324
03:05:12,100 --> 03:05:13,100
people in Sonoma county that

3325
03:05:13,100 --> 03:05:14,100
are on Medi Cal that are very

3326
03:05:14,100 --> 03:05:16,100
mentally ill or are really

3327
03:05:16,100 --> 03:05:17,100
struggling

3328
03:05:17,100 --> 03:05:18,100
with substance use. And then

3329
03:05:18,100 --> 03:05:20,100
about 200ish folks that are

3330
03:05:20,100 --> 03:05:21,100
in jails. So they're either

3331
03:05:21,100 --> 03:05:23,100
in the jail, they're

3332
03:05:23,100 --> 03:05:24,100
in the court system, they're

3333
03:05:24,100 --> 03:05:25,100
in some sort

3334
03:05:25,100 --> 03:05:26,100
of correctional setting. So

3335
03:05:26,100 --> 03:05:27,100
oftentimes you'll have folks

3336
03:05:27,100 --> 03:05:28,100
say, why don't you fix

3337
03:05:28,100 --> 03:05:29,100
depression or anxiety

3338
03:05:29,100 --> 03:05:30,100
across the county,

3339
03:05:30,100 --> 03:05:31,100
we don't have the resources,

3340
03:05:31,100 --> 03:05:32,100
we don't have the mandate, we

3341
03:05:32,100 --> 03:05:33,100
don't,

3342
03:05:33,100 --> 03:05:34,100
we don't have the charge. Our

3343
03:05:34,100 --> 03:05:35,100
responsibility is that 4000-ish

3344
03:05:35,100 --> 03:05:36,100
people and 200 folks

3345
03:05:36,100 --> 03:05:37,100
in a forensic setting. And so

3346
03:05:37,100 --> 03:05:38,100
really just setting the stage

3347
03:05:38,100 --> 03:05:40,100
there. I know many of our

3348
03:05:40,100 --> 03:05:41,100
school district partners have

3349
03:05:41,100 --> 03:05:42,100
come and asked for funding.

3350
03:05:42,100 --> 03:05:44,100
It's just not our purview

3351
03:05:44,100 --> 03:05:46,100
to give dollars out

3352
03:05:46,100 --> 03:05:47,100
across the board. Again, we

3353
03:05:47,100 --> 03:05:48,100
have this very small population

3354
03:05:48,100 --> 03:05:50,100
who is super expensive

3355
03:05:50,100 --> 03:05:52,100
to serve. But again,

3356
03:05:52,100 --> 03:05:53,100
these are folks that are

3357
03:05:53,100 --> 03:05:54,100
in lock facilities. They've got

3358
03:05:54,100 --> 03:05:55,100
bipolar disorder, really

3359
03:05:55,100 --> 03:05:56,100
intensive behavioral health

3360
03:05:56,100 --> 03:05:58,100
needs. Second

3361
03:05:58,100 --> 03:05:59,100
to that is our mild

3362
03:05:59,100 --> 03:06:00,100
to moderate population. This is

3363
03:06:00,100 --> 03:06:01,100
the rest of the folks on Medi

3364
03:06:01,100 --> 03:06:03,100
Cal in the county. So again,

3365
03:06:03,100 --> 03:06:04,100
mild to moderate, lower levels

3366
03:06:04,100 --> 03:06:05,100
of anxiety, depression, ADHD,

3367
03:06:05,100 --> 03:06:07,100
kind of basic behavioral health

3368
03:06:07,100 --> 03:06:09,100
needs. And they're on Medi

3369
03:06:09,100 --> 03:06:11,100
Cal, they are serviced through

3370
03:06:11,100 --> 03:06:13,100
their managed care provider

3371
03:06:13,100 --> 03:06:14,100
which is Partnership or

3372
03:06:14,100 --> 03:06:15,100
Kaiser. So just

3373
03:06:15,100 --> 03:06:16,100
like you or I go to the doctor

3374
03:06:16,100 --> 03:06:18,100
if we need antidepressant meds

3375
03:06:18,100 --> 03:06:20,100
or we need anxiety meds

3376
03:06:20,100 --> 03:06:21,100
through Kaiser, et cetera, et

3377
03:06:21,100 --> 03:06:22,100
cetera, et cetera,

3378
03:06:22,100 --> 03:06:23,100
folks then go through

3379
03:06:23,100 --> 03:06:24,100
Partnership or they go

3380
03:06:24,100 --> 03:06:25,100
through Kaiser

3381
03:06:25,100 --> 03:06:26,100
to see their regular doctor

3382
03:06:26,100 --> 03:06:27,100
to access that care either

3383
03:06:27,100 --> 03:06:28,100
at an FQHC, at a Kaiser

3384
03:06:28,100 --> 03:06:30,100
facility or wherever they get

3385
03:06:30,100 --> 03:06:31,100
care. And then there's about

3386
03:06:31,100 --> 03:06:33,100
350,000 people, the general

3387
03:06:33,100 --> 03:06:34,100
public, they have care

3388
03:06:34,100 --> 03:06:36,100
through a variety of different

3389
03:06:36,100 --> 03:06:37,100
means and that's private payer,

3390
03:06:37,100 --> 03:06:38,100
that's

3391
03:06:38,100 --> 03:06:39,100
through their work insurance,

3392
03:06:39,100 --> 03:06:40,100
that's through a variety

3393
03:06:40,100 --> 03:06:41,100
of other tools and

3394
03:06:41,100 --> 03:06:42,100
in some cases uninsured. We do

3395
03:06:42,100 --> 03:06:43,100
have some responsibility

3396
03:06:43,100 --> 03:06:45,100
in the uninsured category,

3397
03:06:45,100 --> 03:06:46,100
but that's a tale

3398
03:06:46,100 --> 03:06:47,100
for another day. So again

3399
03:06:47,100 --> 03:06:48,100
grounding this discussion,

3400
03:06:48,100 --> 03:06:50,100
the county's responsibility,

3401
03:06:50,100 --> 03:06:52,100
what we're funded for,

3402
03:06:52,100 --> 03:06:54,100
our mandate is 4,000 people

3403
03:06:54,100 --> 03:06:55,100
that are really sick. And this

3404
03:06:55,100 --> 03:06:56,100
is children and adults or

3405
03:06:56,100 --> 03:06:57,100
about 200-ish

3406
03:06:57,100 --> 03:06:59,100
at any given time that are

3407
03:06:59,100 --> 03:07:01,100
in some sort

3408
03:07:02,100 --> 03:07:04,100
of institutional setting. So

3409
03:07:04,100 --> 03:07:06,100
this is where those measure o

3410
03:07:06,100 --> 03:07:08,100
dollars should be going and

3411
03:07:08,100 --> 03:07:10,401
this is our responsibility.

3412
03:07:11,100 --> 03:07:14,100
Next slide please. So again,

3413
03:07:14,100 --> 03:07:15,100
a quick measure overview. You

3414
03:07:15,100 --> 03:07:16,100
guys have heard this several

3415
03:07:16,100 --> 03:07:18,100
times before. This was a voter

3416
03:07:18,100 --> 03:07:19,100
approved quarter cent sales tax

3417
03:07:19,100 --> 03:07:20,100
that was approved in November

3418
03:07:20,100 --> 03:07:21,100
of 2020. It was dedicated for

3419
03:07:21,100 --> 03:07:22,100
10 years, and it is dedicated

3420
03:07:22,100 --> 03:07:23,100
to mental health, substance use

3421
03:07:23,100 --> 03:07:24,100
and homeless support. We get

3422
03:07:24,100 --> 03:07:25,100
about $30 million a year. It

3423
03:07:25,100 --> 03:07:26,100
fluctuates a little bit up and

3424
03:07:26,100 --> 03:07:28,100
down, but generally it's

3425
03:07:28,100 --> 03:07:29,100
about $30 million a year. And

3426
03:07:29,100 --> 03:07:30,100
this funding is not

3427
03:07:30,100 --> 03:07:31,100
discretionary. So

3428
03:07:31,100 --> 03:07:32,100
within the ballot language,

3429
03:07:32,100 --> 03:07:34,100
the board is confined

3430
03:07:34,100 --> 03:07:35,100
to what is written

3431
03:07:35,100 --> 03:07:36,100
in the ballot that was approved

3432
03:07:36,100 --> 03:07:38,100
by voters. And there are some

3433
03:07:38,100 --> 03:07:39,100
very specific ways that we have

3434
03:07:39,100 --> 03:07:41,100
to spend that Money, Some very

3435
03:07:41,100 --> 03:07:42,100
specific ways we have

3436
03:07:42,100 --> 03:07:44,100
to account

3437
03:07:44,100 --> 03:07:45,100
for that money and some very,

3438
03:07:45,100 --> 03:07:47,100
very specific reporting

3439
03:07:47,100 --> 03:07:49,100
requirements. One

3440
03:07:49,100 --> 03:07:51,100
of which is today is to have a

3441
03:07:51,100 --> 03:07:54,100
public hearing and discuss our

3442
03:07:54,100 --> 03:07:56,100
expenditures. Next slide

3443
03:07:56,100 --> 03:07:57,100
please. This is the expenditure

3444
03:07:57,100 --> 03:07:58,100
categories that are stipulated

3445
03:07:58,100 --> 03:07:59,100
in the actual measure. So we

3446
03:07:59,100 --> 03:08:00,100
cannot deviate from this.

3447
03:08:00,100 --> 03:08:01,100
Things do kind

3448
03:08:01,100 --> 03:08:02,100
of fluctuate a smidge. But

3449
03:08:02,100 --> 03:08:03,100
in general the measure

3450
03:08:03,100 --> 03:08:04,100
of dollars have to be spent by

3451
03:08:04,100 --> 03:08:05,100
the voter approved categories

3452
03:08:05,100 --> 03:08:06,100
that are on the ballot.

3453
03:08:06,100 --> 03:08:08,100
Behavioral health facilities

3454
03:08:08,100 --> 03:08:09,100
coming in at 22%. The big, the

3455
03:08:09,100 --> 03:08:11,100
big expenditure here really is

3456
03:08:11,100 --> 03:08:12,100
emergency psychiatric and

3457
03:08:12,100 --> 03:08:14,100
crisis services at 44%. And in

3458
03:08:14,100 --> 03:08:16,100
fact we're seeing that category

3459
03:08:16,100 --> 03:08:17,100
continue to grow even though

3460
03:08:17,100 --> 03:08:19,100
it's the largest category

3461
03:08:19,100 --> 03:08:20,100
today. Mental health and SUD

3462
03:08:20,100 --> 03:08:21,100
outpatient services at 18%,

3463
03:08:21,100 --> 03:08:23,100
behavioral health and homeless

3464
03:08:23,100 --> 03:08:24,100
care at 14 and a little teeny,

3465
03:08:24,100 --> 03:08:26,100
teeny bit for transitional and

3466
03:08:26,100 --> 03:08:27,100
permanent supportive housing.

3467
03:08:27,100 --> 03:08:30,100
So a lot of times folks, they

3468
03:08:30,100 --> 03:08:32,100
measure O as a homeless grant.

3469
03:08:32,100 --> 03:08:34,100
It really isn't. And so I know

3470
03:08:34,100 --> 03:08:36,100
the campaign rhetoric, or maybe

3471
03:08:36,100 --> 03:08:38,100
whatever happened way back when

3472
03:08:38,100 --> 03:08:40,100
the campaign was run,

3473
03:08:40,100 --> 03:08:42,100
promoted it

3474
03:08:42,100 --> 03:08:44,100
for homeless services. We

3475
03:08:44,100 --> 03:08:45,100
cannot spend those dollars

3476
03:08:45,100 --> 03:08:46,100
unless they're out

3477
03:08:46,100 --> 03:08:47,100
of that 2% pot or

3478
03:08:47,100 --> 03:08:48,100
to some degree the 14% pot.

3479
03:08:48,100 --> 03:08:49,100
But that's a bit

3480
03:08:49,100 --> 03:08:50,100
of a stretch. So unfortunately

3481
03:08:50,100 --> 03:08:51,100
a lot of folks are sort

3482
03:08:51,100 --> 03:08:52,100
of misinformed in that space

3483
03:08:52,100 --> 03:08:53,100
and that causes some

3484
03:08:53,100 --> 03:08:54,100
frustration

3485
03:08:54,100 --> 03:08:55,100
with our partners as well. We

3486
03:08:55,100 --> 03:08:56,100
do have the ability

3487
03:08:56,100 --> 03:08:57,100
to adjust funds

3488
03:08:57,100 --> 03:08:58,100
within these categories

3489
03:08:58,100 --> 03:08:59,100
in a single budget year. It

3490
03:08:59,100 --> 03:09:00,100
requires a 4 5th vote

3491
03:09:00,100 --> 03:09:01,100
by the board. And periodically

3492
03:09:01,100 --> 03:09:02,100
we do come and ask

3493
03:09:02,100 --> 03:09:03,100
for a slight adjustment. We

3494
03:09:03,100 --> 03:09:04,100
don't think we'll need to do

3495
03:09:04,100 --> 03:09:06,100
that this year and we haven't

3496
03:09:06,100 --> 03:09:07,100
had to do that for some time.

3497
03:09:07,100 --> 03:09:08,100
But we do have the ability

3498
03:09:08,100 --> 03:09:10,100
to start switch

3499
03:09:10,100 --> 03:09:11,100
between categories in a single

3500
03:09:11,100 --> 03:09:13,100
fiscal year. I suspect

3501
03:09:13,100 --> 03:09:15,100
at the latter stages

3502
03:09:15,100 --> 03:09:16,100
of measure O, we're going

3503
03:09:16,100 --> 03:09:18,100
to need a lot more money in

3504
03:09:18,100 --> 03:09:20,401
that emergency psychiatric and

3505
03:09:22,100 --> 03:09:23,100
crisis services column and less

3506
03:09:23,100 --> 03:09:24,100
money in the others. So we will

3507
03:09:24,100 --> 03:09:26,100
probably come back

3508
03:09:27,100 --> 03:09:28,100
to the board for that.

3509
03:09:28,100 --> 03:09:29,100
But again we have that ability

3510
03:09:29,100 --> 03:09:30,100
with a 4 5th vote

3511
03:09:30,100 --> 03:09:31,100
by the board that is

3512
03:09:31,100 --> 03:09:32,100
in the ballot measure. And I

3513
03:09:32,100 --> 03:09:33,100
think that is my last slide.

3514
03:09:33,100 --> 03:09:34,100
And I'm going to hand it off

3515
03:09:34,100 --> 03:09:35,100
to David to talk

3516
03:09:35,100 --> 03:09:36,100
about the finances..

3517
03:09:36,100 --> 03:09:37,100
>> Yeah, good morning. What we

3518
03:09:37,100 --> 03:09:38,100
have here is the gross

3519
03:09:38,100 --> 03:09:39,100
expenditures by category. As

3520
03:09:39,100 --> 03:09:40,100
you see, this is a little bit

3521
03:09:40,100 --> 03:09:41,100
of a shift for us

3522
03:09:41,100 --> 03:09:42,100
in reporting that we've done

3523
03:09:42,100 --> 03:09:43,100
in previous years. Typically

3524
03:09:43,100 --> 03:09:44,100
we've used net expenditures.

3525
03:09:44,100 --> 03:09:45,100
So this shows basically what

3526
03:09:45,100 --> 03:09:46,100
we've spent before we have any

3527
03:09:46,100 --> 03:09:47,100
reimbursements like FFP,

3528
03:09:47,100 --> 03:09:49,100
federal financial

3529
03:09:49,100 --> 03:09:51,100
participation. And really

3530
03:09:51,100 --> 03:09:53,100
because we want to shift

3531
03:09:53,100 --> 03:09:54,100
to this, it shows you the

3532
03:09:54,100 --> 03:09:56,100
overall impact that Measure O

3533
03:09:56,100 --> 03:09:58,100
has on the community. Here we

3534
03:09:58,100 --> 03:10:00,100
break it

3535
03:10:03,100 --> 03:10:04,100
down a little bit further

3536
03:10:04,100 --> 03:10:07,100
by subcategory as laid out in

3537
03:10:07,100 --> 03:10:08,100
the expenditure plan or

3538
03:10:08,100 --> 03:10:10,100
individual programs. Probably

3539
03:10:10,100 --> 03:10:12,100
something better suited for

3540
03:10:12,100 --> 03:10:13,100
offline consumption here. A

3541
03:10:13,100 --> 03:10:15,100
little difficult

3542
03:10:15,100 --> 03:10:18,100
to read maybe. And this

3543
03:10:19,100 --> 03:10:20,100
actually really demonstrates

3544
03:10:20,100 --> 03:10:21,100
well, one of the reasons why we

3545
03:10:21,100 --> 03:10:23,100
have chosen to look

3546
03:10:23,100 --> 03:10:25,100
at gross expenditures. Because

3547
03:10:25,100 --> 03:10:27,100
the reimbursements vary a lot

3548
03:10:27,100 --> 03:10:30,100
between programs. So it gives

3549
03:10:30,100 --> 03:10:32,100
you a good overall view once we

3550
03:10:32,100 --> 03:10:33,100
add in reimbursements,

3551
03:10:33,100 --> 03:10:34,100
but it can really undersell

3552
03:10:34,100 --> 03:10:36,100
some of the programs that

3553
03:10:36,100 --> 03:10:37,100
receive a lot

3554
03:10:37,100 --> 03:10:40,100
of reimbursements. So you see

3555
03:10:40,100 --> 03:10:42,100
the total expenditures

3556
03:10:42,100 --> 03:10:44,100
down the bottom as reflected

3557
03:10:44,100 --> 03:10:46,100
in the previous slide,

3558
03:10:46,100 --> 03:10:48,100
and then the reimbursements.

3559
03:10:48,100 --> 03:10:51,100
And once we end up

3560
03:10:51,100 --> 03:10:53,100
with the net expenditures

3561
03:10:53,100 --> 03:10:55,100
really in line

3562
03:10:55,100 --> 03:10:56,100
with what we have spent

3563
03:10:56,100 --> 03:10:57,100
in previous years. So speaking

3564
03:10:57,100 --> 03:10:58,100
of previous years,

3565
03:10:58,100 --> 03:10:59,100
what we have here is

3566
03:10:59,100 --> 03:11:00,100
combination

3567
03:11:00,100 --> 03:11:02,100
of net expenditures,

3568
03:11:02,100 --> 03:11:04,100
is the line going up there,

3569
03:11:04,100 --> 03:11:06,100
and relationship between our

3570
03:11:06,100 --> 03:11:09,100
fund balance and revenues. You

3571
03:11:09,100 --> 03:11:10,100
see, with the early years,

3572
03:11:10,100 --> 03:11:13,100
it took a little while for us

3573
03:11:13,100 --> 03:11:15,100
to get caught up as programs

3574
03:11:15,100 --> 03:11:16,100
were spinning up

3575
03:11:16,100 --> 03:11:17,100
to bring the fund balance down,

3576
03:11:17,100 --> 03:11:18,100
bring expenditures up. So as it

3577
03:11:18,100 --> 03:11:20,100
expanded, we've allowed us

3578
03:11:20,100 --> 03:11:22,100
to support a broader and more,

3579
03:11:22,100 --> 03:11:24,100
excuse me, mature set

3580
03:11:24,100 --> 03:11:25,100
of ongoing services. And now

3581
03:11:25,100 --> 03:11:27,100
you see how the fund balance is

3582
03:11:27,100 --> 03:11:29,100
projected to decline

3583
03:11:29,100 --> 03:11:31,100
over the next couple years,

3584
03:11:31,100 --> 03:11:34,601
both this year and into next.

3585
03:11:37,100 --> 03:11:38,100
These are both kind of point

3586
03:11:38,100 --> 03:11:39,100
in time estimates. And overall,

3587
03:11:39,100 --> 03:11:42,100
what we reflect here is the

3588
03:11:42,100 --> 03:11:43,100
plan progression, building up

3589
03:11:43,100 --> 03:11:45,100
services, using them

3590
03:11:46,100 --> 03:11:47,100
over time as we move

3591
03:11:47,100 --> 03:11:49,100
into full implementation.

3592
03:11:56,100 --> 03:11:57,100
>> Right, and now we're going

3593
03:11:57,100 --> 03:11:58,100
to talk about the individual

3594
03:11:58,100 --> 03:11:59,100
categories today. And again,

3595
03:11:59,100 --> 03:12:00,100
I'm going to try and make these

3596
03:12:00,100 --> 03:12:01,100
slides not look so graphy and

3597
03:12:01,100 --> 03:12:03,100
boring and explain what they're

3598
03:12:03,100 --> 03:12:04,100
actually funding. Right. And

3599
03:12:04,100 --> 03:12:05,100
this is the story that we all

3600
03:12:05,100 --> 03:12:07,100
need to tell. What does this

3601
03:12:07,100 --> 03:12:09,100
mean to the average resident

3602
03:12:09,100 --> 03:12:10,100
of Sonoma County? Right. So

3603
03:12:10,100 --> 03:12:11,100
measure O every single day is

3604
03:12:11,100 --> 03:12:12,100
helping some

3605
03:12:12,100 --> 03:12:14,100
of the most sick, most

3606
03:12:14,100 --> 03:12:15,100
behaviorally needy folks here

3607
03:12:15,100 --> 03:12:17,100
in the county. And if we didn't

3608
03:12:17,100 --> 03:12:18,100
have this resource, quite

3609
03:12:18,100 --> 03:12:20,100
frankly, the behavioral health

3610
03:12:20,100 --> 03:12:21,100
team would be sunk. And so in

3611
03:12:21,100 --> 03:12:22,100
the behavioral health category,

3612
03:12:22,100 --> 03:12:24,100
last year, we spent $15

3613
03:12:24,100 --> 03:12:25,100
million, and that $15 million

3614
03:12:25,100 --> 03:12:27,100
was able to serve 208

3615
03:12:27,100 --> 03:12:29,100
individuals

3616
03:12:29,100 --> 03:12:31,100
in psychiatric hospitals. And

3617
03:12:31,100 --> 03:12:32,100
again, these placements can be

3618
03:12:32,100 --> 03:12:34,100
a million dollars

3619
03:12:34,100 --> 03:12:35,100
for a single placement,

3620
03:12:35,100 --> 03:12:37,100
a million dollars

3621
03:12:37,100 --> 03:12:38,100
for a single client. So if we

3622
03:12:38,100 --> 03:12:40,100
did not have this funding or

3623
03:12:40,100 --> 03:12:41,100
these contracts or these

3624
03:12:41,100 --> 03:12:43,100
abilities,

3625
03:12:43,100 --> 03:12:44,100
these are folks that have

3626
03:12:44,100 --> 03:12:45,100
schizophrenia, bipolar, really

3627
03:12:45,100 --> 03:12:46,100
severe behavioral health

3628
03:12:46,100 --> 03:12:47,100
issues. And oftentimes they're

3629
03:12:47,100 --> 03:12:48,100
homeless or they're

3630
03:12:48,100 --> 03:12:49,100
on the streets or in and out,

3631
03:12:49,100 --> 03:12:50,100
or they don't have access

3632
03:12:50,100 --> 03:12:51,100
to these services

3633
03:12:51,100 --> 03:12:52,100
in these facilities. And

3634
03:12:52,100 --> 03:12:53,100
in many cases,

3635
03:12:53,100 --> 03:12:54,100
we don't have medical revenues

3636
03:12:54,100 --> 03:12:55,100
to cover these for a variety

3637
03:12:55,100 --> 03:12:56,100
of reasons. And we also don't

3638
03:12:56,100 --> 03:12:57,100
have enough realignment fund

3639
03:12:57,100 --> 03:12:58,100
balance to really cover these

3640
03:12:58,100 --> 03:12:59,100
expenditures. And so, you know,

3641
03:12:59,100 --> 03:13:01,100
talking to cities and talking

3642
03:13:01,100 --> 03:13:02,100
to our constituents

3643
03:13:02,100 --> 03:13:03,100
about the value this provides,

3644
03:13:03,100 --> 03:13:05,100
these are 208 people that are

3645
03:13:05,100 --> 03:13:07,100
really ill, that are able

3646
03:13:07,100 --> 03:13:08,100
to receive treatment,

3647
03:13:08,100 --> 03:13:09,100
that are hopefully able

3648
03:13:09,100 --> 03:13:10,100
to recover, that are able

3649
03:13:10,100 --> 03:13:12,100
to heal and get back

3650
03:13:12,100 --> 03:13:13,100
into care. Once folks have

3651
03:13:13,100 --> 03:13:14,100
their immediate kind of

3652
03:13:14,100 --> 03:13:15,100
psychiatric crisis stabilized,

3653
03:13:15,100 --> 03:13:16,100
they have to step down,

3654
03:13:16,100 --> 03:13:17,100
right? So you don't just get

3655
03:13:17,100 --> 03:13:18,100
out of the psych hospital and

3656
03:13:18,100 --> 03:13:20,100
go back to your normal life.

3657
03:13:20,100 --> 03:13:21,100
It takes some time. And so

3658
03:13:21,100 --> 03:13:22,100
we've got a variety of

3659
03:13:22,100 --> 03:13:23,100
residential care facilities as

3660
03:13:23,100 --> 03:13:24,100
well. So when folks step down

3661
03:13:24,100 --> 03:13:25,100
from that crisis,

3662
03:13:25,100 --> 03:13:27,100
maybe it's a psychiatric break,

3663
03:13:27,100 --> 03:13:28,100
a psychotic episode,

3664
03:13:28,100 --> 03:13:30,401
an attempted search suicide,

3665
03:13:31,100 --> 03:13:32,100
they stabilize,

3666
03:13:32,100 --> 03:13:33,100
then they are able to go

3667
03:13:33,100 --> 03:13:34,100
to a residential care facility.

3668
03:13:34,100 --> 03:13:35,100
Right? And so at that

3669
03:13:35,100 --> 03:13:37,100
residential care facility,

3670
03:13:37,100 --> 03:13:38,100
they're able to again continue

3671
03:13:38,100 --> 03:13:39,100
their treatment plan, get

3672
03:13:39,100 --> 03:13:40,100
better, recover,

3673
03:13:40,100 --> 03:13:41,100
and hopefully get back

3674
03:13:41,100 --> 03:13:42,100
in the community.

3675
03:13:42,100 --> 03:13:43,100
In some cases, they may never

3676
03:13:43,100 --> 03:13:44,100
recover. So in some cases,

3677
03:13:44,100 --> 03:13:45,100
folks have behavioral health

3678
03:13:45,100 --> 03:13:46,100
issues where they need to be

3679
03:13:46,100 --> 03:13:48,100
in a residential care facility

3680
03:13:48,100 --> 03:13:49,100
for life. And these are folks

3681
03:13:49,100 --> 03:13:50,100
that are conserved. You've

3682
03:13:50,100 --> 03:13:51,100
heard these stories

3683
03:13:51,100 --> 03:13:52,100
in the newspapers. You've heard

3684
03:13:52,100 --> 03:13:53,100
these heartbreaking tales

3685
03:13:53,100 --> 03:13:54,100
from parents trying to treat

3686
03:13:54,100 --> 03:13:55,100
their adult children or

3687
03:13:55,100 --> 03:13:57,100
children trying to reach their

3688
03:13:57,100 --> 03:13:58,100
older adult parents trying

3689
03:13:58,100 --> 03:13:59,100
to find a place to keep them.

3690
03:13:59,100 --> 03:14:01,100
This funding paid

3691
03:14:01,100 --> 03:14:02,100
for 328of those placements.

3692
03:14:02,100 --> 03:14:03,100
And again, they're very

3693
03:14:03,100 --> 03:14:04,100
expensive and they come

3694
03:14:04,100 --> 03:14:05,100
from every part

3695
03:14:05,100 --> 03:14:06,100
of the county,

3696
03:14:06,100 --> 03:14:08,100
every incorporated city,

3697
03:14:08,100 --> 03:14:10,100
from the unincorporated, again,

3698
03:14:10,100 --> 03:14:11,100
paying for services

3699
03:14:11,100 --> 03:14:13,100
for folks. 81,448 bed nights

3700
03:14:13,100 --> 03:14:16,100
just last year. Right? That's a

3701
03:14:16,100 --> 03:14:17,100
huge number

3702
03:14:17,100 --> 03:14:18,100
of beds that we're able to pay

3703
03:14:18,100 --> 03:14:19,100
for in this service. And then

3704
03:14:19,100 --> 03:14:20,100
again,

3705
03:14:20,100 --> 03:14:22,100
getting folks transitionally

3706
03:14:22,100 --> 03:14:23,100
housed, right. Maybe you get

3707
03:14:23,100 --> 03:14:25,100
out of residential facility,

3708
03:14:25,100 --> 03:14:26,100
you're kind of getting back

3709
03:14:26,100 --> 03:14:27,100
on your feet. You know, how do

3710
03:14:27,100 --> 03:14:28,100
you actually integrate back

3711
03:14:28,100 --> 03:14:29,100
into society? And so again,

3712
03:14:29,100 --> 03:14:31,100
serving 325 clients,

3713
03:14:31,100 --> 03:14:32,100
really going

3714
03:14:32,100 --> 03:14:33,100
from probably the worst moment

3715
03:14:33,100 --> 03:14:34,100
of their life back

3716
03:14:34,100 --> 03:14:36,100
into society. And so without

3717
03:14:36,100 --> 03:14:37,100
Measure O, none

3718
03:14:37,100 --> 03:14:38,100
of these services would exist.

3719
03:14:38,100 --> 03:14:40,100
And again, I know the public

3720
03:14:40,100 --> 03:14:41,100
doesn't see it. Many of our

3721
03:14:41,100 --> 03:14:42,100
city council peers don't see

3722
03:14:42,100 --> 03:14:43,100
it. Sometimes the police chiefs

3723
03:14:43,100 --> 03:14:45,100
don't see it. But Measure O is

3724
03:14:45,100 --> 03:14:46,100
paying for a whole shadow

3725
03:14:46,100 --> 03:14:47,100
system that really makes a

3726
03:14:47,100 --> 03:14:48,100
tremendous impact every single

3727
03:14:48,100 --> 03:14:50,100
day. Next slide, please. This

3728
03:14:50,100 --> 03:14:52,100
is the big dog in terms

3729
03:14:52,100 --> 03:14:54,100
of spending. And this is where

3730
03:14:54,100 --> 03:14:56,100
the spending unfortunately is

3731
03:14:56,100 --> 03:14:57,100
rapidly growing. This is our

3732
03:14:57,100 --> 03:14:58,100
emergency and psychiatric

3733
03:14:58,100 --> 03:15:00,100
services tab. We spent about

3734
03:15:00,100 --> 03:15:01,100
$30 million there. Again,

3735
03:15:01,100 --> 03:15:02,100
almost the Entirety

3736
03:15:02,100 --> 03:15:04,100
of what we earned in measure O

3737
03:15:04,100 --> 03:15:05,100
last year was spent just

3738
03:15:05,100 --> 03:15:07,100
on this one category. And

3739
03:15:07,100 --> 03:15:08,100
again, this also includes the

3740
03:15:08,100 --> 03:15:09,100
medical revenues that we bring

3741
03:15:09,100 --> 03:15:11,100
back in. But I can't underscore

3742
03:15:11,100 --> 03:15:12,100
enough how much this category

3743
03:15:12,100 --> 03:15:13,100
is growing off the charts.

3744
03:15:13,100 --> 03:15:14,100
This thing funds all,

3745
03:15:14,100 --> 03:15:15,100
all sorts

3746
03:15:15,100 --> 03:15:16,100
of different things. And we'll

3747
03:15:16,100 --> 03:15:17,100
talk a little bit

3748
03:15:17,100 --> 03:15:19,100
about CAPE and Mobile Crisis

3749
03:15:19,100 --> 03:15:20,100
on the two subsequent slides.

3750
03:15:20,100 --> 03:15:21,100
But this funds our entire

3751
03:15:21,100 --> 03:15:22,100
crisis system of care. So

3752
03:15:22,100 --> 03:15:23,100
whether it is our CSU,

3753
03:15:23,100 --> 03:15:24,100
which we've talked a lot about,

3754
03:15:24,100 --> 03:15:26,100
the costs there are going up.

3755
03:15:26,100 --> 03:15:28,100
We've almost reached $10

3756
03:15:28,100 --> 03:15:29,100
million. And that provides a

3757
03:15:29,100 --> 03:15:31,100
resource for folks to go

3758
03:15:31,100 --> 03:15:32,100
to when they are in crisis.

3759
03:15:32,100 --> 03:15:33,100
Right. It's an emergency room

3760
03:15:33,100 --> 03:15:34,100
when you're having a behavioral

3761
03:15:34,100 --> 03:15:36,100
health or substance use crisis.

3762
03:15:36,100 --> 03:15:37,100
The residential crisis

3763
03:15:37,100 --> 03:15:39,100
services, which we talked

3764
03:15:39,100 --> 03:15:40,100
about a minute ago, you know,

3765
03:15:40,100 --> 03:15:41,100
folks need to put place

3766
03:15:41,100 --> 03:15:42,100
to stay. We're

3767
03:15:42,100 --> 03:15:43,100
in their crisis. You can't just

3768
03:15:43,100 --> 03:15:44,100
stay in the CSU. You've got

3769
03:15:44,100 --> 03:15:45,100
to find a place to step down.

3770
03:15:45,100 --> 03:15:46,100
And unfortunately,

3771
03:15:46,100 --> 03:15:47,100
we're spending about $10

3772
03:15:47,100 --> 03:15:48,100
million on in patient hospital

3773
03:15:48,100 --> 03:15:50,100
treatments as well. So this is

3774
03:15:50,100 --> 03:15:51,100
again, if you've got a loved

3775
03:15:51,100 --> 03:15:52,100
one or a family member that is

3776
03:15:52,100 --> 03:15:54,100
experiencing psychosis,

3777
03:15:54,100 --> 03:15:55,100
a severe bipolar disorder,

3778
03:15:55,100 --> 03:15:57,100
a mental break, it's a really

3779
03:15:57,100 --> 03:15:59,401
scary and awful situation.

3780
03:16:00,100 --> 03:16:01,100
This is paying

3781
03:16:01,100 --> 03:16:02,100
for those resources for people

3782
03:16:02,100 --> 03:16:03,100
to be treated locally. And

3783
03:16:03,100 --> 03:16:05,100
again, working

3784
03:16:05,100 --> 03:16:06,100
in several county systems.

3785
03:16:06,100 --> 03:16:07,100
This does not exist

3786
03:16:07,100 --> 03:16:08,100
in the counties that I've

3787
03:16:08,100 --> 03:16:09,100
worked in in the past. And

3788
03:16:09,100 --> 03:16:10,100
again, it's sort

3789
03:16:10,100 --> 03:16:11,100
of this hidden system

3790
03:16:11,100 --> 03:16:12,100
behind the scenes.

3791
03:16:12,100 --> 03:16:13,100
But the voters of Sonoma

3792
03:16:13,100 --> 03:16:14,100
County have really created a

3793
03:16:14,100 --> 03:16:15,100
very robust crisis system to

3794
03:16:15,100 --> 03:16:16,100
treat folks that are extremely

3795
03:16:16,100 --> 03:16:19,100
mentally ill. And I can't

3796
03:16:19,100 --> 03:16:20,100
stress enough how many folks

3797
03:16:20,100 --> 03:16:22,100
we've served. I won't go

3798
03:16:22,100 --> 03:16:23,100
through all the stats

3799
03:16:23,100 --> 03:16:25,100
to you there, but again,

3800
03:16:25,100 --> 03:16:26,100
for the Crisis Stabilization

3801
03:16:26,100 --> 03:16:27,100
Unit, we served about 655

3802
03:16:27,100 --> 03:16:29,100
clients last year. The Mobile

3803
03:16:29,100 --> 03:16:30,100
Support team. So Mobile Crisis

3804
03:16:30,100 --> 03:16:32,100
is broken

3805
03:16:32,100 --> 03:16:33,100
into three different teams.

3806
03:16:33,100 --> 03:16:35,100
Mobile Support Team is the

3807
03:16:35,100 --> 03:16:36,100
county's team that covers the

3808
03:16:36,100 --> 03:16:37,100
entire incorporated and any of

3809
03:16:37,100 --> 03:16:38,100
the cities that don't have a

3810
03:16:38,100 --> 03:16:40,100
team in response. Covers

3811
03:16:40,100 --> 03:16:42,100
Santa Rosa, within Santa Rosa

3812
03:16:42,100 --> 03:16:43,100
city limits. SAFE covers

3813
03:16:43,100 --> 03:16:45,100
Petaluma, Cotati, Rohnert Park

3814
03:16:45,100 --> 03:16:47,100
and Sonoma State University.

3815
03:16:47,100 --> 03:16:48,100
And you can see the call rates

3816
03:16:48,100 --> 03:16:50,100
there. So again, 1,469 total

3817
03:16:50,100 --> 03:16:51,100
dispatches

3818
03:16:51,100 --> 03:16:52,100
from mobile support team.

3819
03:16:52,100 --> 03:16:54,100
5,800 calls for service

3820
03:16:55,100 --> 03:16:57,100
within response, 13,000 plus

3821
03:16:57,100 --> 03:16:59,100
calls for safe. The one thing I

3822
03:16:59,100 --> 03:17:00,100
want to point out,

3823
03:17:00,100 --> 03:17:02,100
there was an article in the

3824
03:17:02,100 --> 03:17:03,100
paper last week and I'm not

3825
03:17:03,100 --> 03:17:04,100
making a judgment call are

3826
03:17:04,100 --> 03:17:06,100
saying what happened or didn't

3827
03:17:06,100 --> 03:17:07,100
happen, but a lot

3828
03:17:07,100 --> 03:17:08,100
of times when someone's Having

3829
03:17:08,100 --> 03:17:09,100
a mental health crisis, you

3830
03:17:09,100 --> 03:17:11,100
want a mental health crisis

3831
03:17:11,100 --> 03:17:12,100
responder to respond,

3832
03:17:12,100 --> 03:17:13,100
not a police officer. Right.

3833
03:17:13,100 --> 03:17:14,100
We've seen in this county

3834
03:17:14,100 --> 03:17:15,100
in the past, oftentimes law

3835
03:17:15,100 --> 03:17:16,100
enforcement gets put

3836
03:17:16,100 --> 03:17:17,100
in situations where they've got

3837
03:17:17,100 --> 03:17:18,100
to use their firearm. We have

3838
03:17:18,100 --> 03:17:19,100
really awful results. 71%

3839
03:17:19,100 --> 03:17:21,100
of the responses from the

3840
03:17:21,100 --> 03:17:22,100
mobile support team were done

3841
03:17:22,100 --> 03:17:24,100
without law enforcement. 4800

3842
03:17:24,100 --> 03:17:26,100
calls in Santa Rosa were done

3843
03:17:26,100 --> 03:17:28,100
without law or were law

3844
03:17:28,100 --> 03:17:30,100
enforcement diversions. So

3845
03:17:30,100 --> 03:17:31,100
again, diverting to a mental

3846
03:17:31,100 --> 03:17:32,100
health crisis clinician. And

3847
03:17:32,100 --> 03:17:33,100
we're not collecting all that

3848
03:17:33,100 --> 03:17:35,100
data just yet for safe,

3849
03:17:35,100 --> 03:17:36,100
but we'll share that

3850
03:17:36,100 --> 03:17:37,100
at a later date. So again, the

3851
03:17:37,100 --> 03:17:38,100
community years and years ago

3852
03:17:38,100 --> 03:17:39,100
asked

3853
03:17:39,100 --> 03:17:41,100
for an ultimate response. They

3854
03:17:41,100 --> 03:17:42,100
asked to keep people safe.

3855
03:17:42,100 --> 03:17:43,100
They asked

3856
03:17:43,100 --> 03:17:44,100
for something different

3857
03:17:44,100 --> 03:17:45,100
during the time of George

3858
03:17:45,100 --> 03:17:46,100
Floyd and after. And we have

3859
03:17:46,100 --> 03:17:47,100
produced that here

3860
03:17:47,100 --> 03:17:48,100
in the county. Doesn't always

3861
03:17:48,100 --> 03:17:49,100
work 100%. Right. We saw that

3862
03:17:49,100 --> 03:17:50,100
last week. But again, 71%

3863
03:17:50,100 --> 03:17:52,100
of the calls without law

3864
03:17:52,100 --> 03:17:53,100
enforcement is something

3865
03:17:53,100 --> 03:17:54,100
to be proud of that this board

3866
03:17:54,100 --> 03:17:55,100
has a established and sort of

3867
03:17:55,100 --> 03:17:57,100
launched a couple years back.

3868
03:17:57,100 --> 03:17:58,100
We'll talk a little bit about

3869
03:17:58,100 --> 03:18:00,100
Cape on the next slide. And

3870
03:18:00,100 --> 03:18:01,100
again, 292 individuals served

3871
03:18:01,100 --> 03:18:02,100
at our inpatient hospital here

3872
03:18:02,100 --> 03:18:04,100
at the Los Guilicos campus.

3873
03:18:04,100 --> 03:18:06,401
Next slide. I wanted

3874
03:18:08,100 --> 03:18:09,100
to do a specific call out.

3875
03:18:09,100 --> 03:18:11,100
>> Yes, hi, sorry, Supervisor

3876
03:18:11,100 --> 03:18:12,100
Hopkins has a question.

3877
03:18:12,100 --> 03:18:13,100
>> I had some questions

3878
03:18:13,100 --> 03:18:14,100
about sort of MST

3879
03:18:14,100 --> 03:18:15,100
in response and safe. Should I

3880
03:18:15,100 --> 03:18:16,100
wait until.

3881
03:18:16,100 --> 03:18:17,100
>> We have a slide come up

3882
03:18:17,100 --> 03:18:18,100
next.

3883
03:18:18,100 --> 03:18:19,100
>> Okay, great.

3884
03:18:19,100 --> 03:18:21,100
>> Thank you.

3885
03:18:21,100 --> 03:18:23,100
>> So I want to talk a little

3886
03:18:23,100 --> 03:18:24,100
bit about cape. And the reason

3887
03:18:24,100 --> 03:18:25,100
I wanted to bring this up today

3888
03:18:25,100 --> 03:18:27,100
is we've had a variety

3889
03:18:27,100 --> 03:18:29,100
of requests come

3890
03:18:29,100 --> 03:18:30,100
from different school districts

3891
03:18:30,100 --> 03:18:33,100
to fund their behavioral health

3892
03:18:37,100 --> 03:18:39,401
programming. So I wanted

3893
03:18:40,100 --> 03:18:41,100
to frame the discussion

3894
03:18:41,100 --> 03:18:43,100
on who the county serves

3895
03:18:43,100 --> 03:18:44,100
with that first slide.

3896
03:18:44,100 --> 03:18:45,100
But I also want

3897
03:18:45,100 --> 03:18:46,100
to talk a little bit

3898
03:18:46,100 --> 03:18:47,100
about what we're actually doing

3899
03:18:47,100 --> 03:18:48,100
on school campuses. And so the

3900
03:18:48,100 --> 03:18:51,100
CAPE program is essentially a

3901
03:18:52,100 --> 03:18:53,100
mobile crisis response program

3902
03:18:53,100 --> 03:18:54,100
for our high school Systems and

3903
03:18:54,100 --> 03:18:55,100
some junior and elementary

3904
03:18:55,100 --> 03:18:56,100
schools. We service over 34

3905
03:18:56,100 --> 03:18:57,100
campuses last year,

3906
03:18:57,100 --> 03:18:58,100
and we were able to respond

3907
03:18:58,100 --> 03:18:59,100
to 56 different crises, 33

3908
03:18:59,100 --> 03:19:00,100
on campus crisis responses,

3909
03:19:00,100 --> 03:19:01,100
and then 23 phone

3910
03:19:01,100 --> 03:19:02,100
consultations. We had 109 early

3911
03:19:02,100 --> 03:19:03,100
intervention referrals and

3912
03:19:03,100 --> 03:19:04,100
2,240 prevention participants

3913
03:19:04,100 --> 03:19:05,100
through education and outreach

3914
03:19:05,100 --> 03:19:06,100
activities. So again,

3915
03:19:06,100 --> 03:19:08,100
you have a lot of your

3916
03:19:08,100 --> 03:19:10,100
constituents and partners

3917
03:19:10,100 --> 03:19:11,100
asking for funding to support

3918
03:19:11,100 --> 03:19:12,100
programs. I wish we had the

3919
03:19:12,100 --> 03:19:13,100
most money to do it,

3920
03:19:13,100 --> 03:19:14,100
but I want to remind the county

3921
03:19:14,100 --> 03:19:16,100
that we are injecting our

3922
03:19:16,100 --> 03:19:17,100
services into 34 different

3923
03:19:17,100 --> 03:19:19,100
campuses across Sonoma

3924
03:19:19,100 --> 03:19:20,100
County. This is a full listing

3925
03:19:20,100 --> 03:19:21,100
of those campuses. And there's

3926
03:19:21,100 --> 03:19:23,100
actually a couple more that

3927
03:19:23,100 --> 03:19:25,100
actually aren't on there. But

3928
03:19:25,100 --> 03:19:26,100
we are actively staffing these

3929
03:19:26,100 --> 03:19:28,100
campuses with county employees

3930
03:19:28,100 --> 03:19:29,100
and we're really trying

3931
03:19:29,100 --> 03:19:31,100
to do our best

3932
03:19:31,100 --> 03:19:32,100
to backfill that crisis level

3933
03:19:32,100 --> 03:19:33,100
of care.

3934
03:19:33,100 --> 03:19:34,100
>> Thank you. Vice Chair

3935
03:19:34,100 --> 03:19:35,100
Coursey has a question

3936
03:19:35,100 --> 03:19:36,100
for you.

3937
03:19:36,100 --> 03:19:37,100
>> This does this represents a

3938
03:19:37,100 --> 03:19:38,100
broader population than the

3939
03:19:38,100 --> 03:19:40,100
4000 that you mentioned

3940
03:19:40,100 --> 03:19:41,100
in your one

3941
03:19:41,100 --> 03:19:43,100
of your first.

3942
03:19:43,100 --> 03:19:44,100
>> It does. It does.

3943
03:19:44,100 --> 03:19:46,100
>> These are young people who

3944
03:19:46,100 --> 03:19:47,100
are in need of some help. And

3945
03:19:47,100 --> 03:19:48,100
we're not asking them to call

3946
03:19:48,100 --> 03:19:50,100
their insurance company.

3947
03:19:51,100 --> 03:19:54,100
>> This is any student that

3948
03:19:55,100 --> 03:19:56,100
needs it. We're responding to

3949
03:19:56,100 --> 03:19:58,100
100% any student that needs it.

3950
03:19:58,100 --> 03:19:59,100
And then we do our best

3951
03:19:59,100 --> 03:20:01,100
to connect them

3952
03:20:01,100 --> 03:20:02,100
to follow up care through

3953
03:20:02,100 --> 03:20:04,100
whatever insurance they have

3954
03:20:04,100 --> 03:20:05,100
afterwards or

3955
03:20:05,100 --> 03:20:07,100
through us if it's Medi Cal.

3956
03:20:07,100 --> 03:20:08,100
So this is a no. It doesn't

3957
03:20:08,100 --> 03:20:09,100
matter if you have private

3958
03:20:09,100 --> 03:20:10,100
insurance. Medi Cal, no

3959
03:20:10,100 --> 03:20:11,100
insurance. We don't ask. We

3960
03:20:11,100 --> 03:20:12,100
just service the state

3961
03:20:12,100 --> 03:20:13,100
situation. We don't have enough

3962
03:20:13,100 --> 03:20:14,100
data yet. But I'm hearing great

3963
03:20:14,100 --> 03:20:15,100
anecdotal stories

3964
03:20:15,100 --> 03:20:16,100
about significant reductions

3965
03:20:16,100 --> 03:20:17,100
in youth suicides

3966
03:20:17,100 --> 03:20:18,100
on campuses. And again,

3967
03:20:18,100 --> 03:20:19,100
any child on those campuses can

3968
03:20:19,100 --> 03:20:20,100
access those services. This is

3969
03:20:20,100 --> 03:20:21,100
not all of our schools.

3970
03:20:21,100 --> 03:20:22,100
Right. So we'd like to continue

3971
03:20:22,100 --> 03:20:23,100
expanding this program and

3972
03:20:23,100 --> 03:20:24,100
frankly, we're going to

3973
03:20:24,100 --> 03:20:25,100
struggle a little bit

3974
03:20:25,100 --> 03:20:26,100
financially

3975
03:20:26,100 --> 03:20:27,100
over the next couple years.

3976
03:20:27,100 --> 03:20:28,100
This is one

3977
03:20:28,100 --> 03:20:29,100
of the programs we may have

3978
03:20:29,100 --> 03:20:31,100
to pare back or reduce because

3979
03:20:31,100 --> 03:20:32,100
of funding issues. But

3980
03:20:32,100 --> 03:20:33,100
at these campuses today, any

3981
03:20:33,100 --> 03:20:34,100
student can access these

3982
03:20:34,100 --> 03:20:36,100
services and sometimes we even

3983
03:20:36,100 --> 03:20:37,100
have help staff. Great.

3984
03:20:37,100 --> 03:20:39,100
>> Thank you, Supervisor

3985
03:20:39,100 --> 03:20:40,100
Rabbitt.

3986
03:20:40,100 --> 03:20:41,100
>> Just to follow up on that.

3987
03:20:41,100 --> 03:20:42,100
And you said that's not all the

3988
03:20:42,100 --> 03:20:44,100
schools, but that's 20 and I

3989
03:20:44,100 --> 03:20:45,100
don't. Outside of Rancho and

3990
03:20:45,100 --> 03:20:47,100
Rona Park, Petaluma City

3991
03:20:47,100 --> 03:20:48,100
schools not represented

3992
03:20:48,100 --> 03:20:51,100
at least on this. Are they one

3993
03:20:51,100 --> 03:20:54,100
of those schools that aren't.

3994
03:20:54,100 --> 03:20:55,100
>> They are not a major

3995
03:20:55,100 --> 03:20:56,100
participant yet. And so again,

3996
03:20:56,100 --> 03:20:57,100
it's dollars and expansion is

3997
03:20:57,100 --> 03:20:58,100
the problem for us. The Cape

3998
03:20:58,100 --> 03:20:59,100
team was actually pulled back a

3999
03:20:59,100 --> 03:21:00,100
few years back and then sort

4000
03:21:00,100 --> 03:21:02,100
of re expanded. So. So we would

4001
03:21:02,100 --> 03:21:04,100
like to continue to expand.

4002
03:21:04,100 --> 03:21:05,100
Unfortunately, these are the

4003
03:21:05,100 --> 03:21:06,100
main programs today and we do

4004
03:21:06,100 --> 03:21:07,100
have some outreach

4005
03:21:07,100 --> 03:21:08,100
at other campuses,

4006
03:21:08,100 --> 03:21:09,100
but this is where the bulk

4007
03:21:09,100 --> 03:21:10,100
of the service.

4008
03:21:10,100 --> 03:21:11,100
>> What's the obligation

4009
03:21:11,100 --> 03:21:13,100
of the actual of the district

4010
03:21:13,100 --> 03:21:14,100
for expansion? Yeah.

4011
03:21:14,100 --> 03:21:15,100
Financially or otherwise.

4012
03:21:15,100 --> 03:21:16,100
>> Right now, the county is

4013
03:21:16,100 --> 03:21:17,100
covering it pretty much 100%.

4014
03:21:17,100 --> 03:21:18,100
>> Okay.

4015
03:21:18,100 --> 03:21:19,100
Look forward to that further

4016
03:21:19,100 --> 03:21:21,100
expansion.

4017
03:21:23,100 --> 03:21:24,100
>> Any other questions

4018
03:21:24,100 --> 03:21:25,100
on this slide?

4019
03:21:25,100 --> 03:21:26,100
>> No.

4020
03:21:26,100 --> 03:21:27,100
>> Okay, great. So again,

4021
03:21:27,100 --> 03:21:28,100
I just want to state, you know,

4022
03:21:28,100 --> 03:21:29,100
I know that a lot of our school

4023
03:21:29,100 --> 03:21:30,100
districts right now are having

4024
03:21:30,100 --> 03:21:32,100
success,

4025
03:21:32,100 --> 03:21:33,100
significant financial issues.

4026
03:21:33,100 --> 03:21:34,100
The first place they're going

4027
03:21:34,100 --> 03:21:35,100
to look to cut is their

4028
03:21:35,100 --> 03:21:36,100
behavioral health services.

4029
03:21:36,100 --> 03:21:37,100
And it's awful. It is the

4030
03:21:37,100 --> 03:21:38,100
number one place that students

4031
03:21:38,100 --> 03:21:39,100
can access services,

4032
03:21:39,100 --> 03:21:40,100
whether they're insured,

4033
03:21:40,100 --> 03:21:41,100
medical, et cetera, et cetera.

4034
03:21:41,100 --> 03:21:42,100
However, the county is doing

4035
03:21:42,100 --> 03:21:44,100
our best to chip in

4036
03:21:44,100 --> 03:21:45,100
through cape. You know,

4037
03:21:45,100 --> 03:21:46,100
it's not enough, but

4038
03:21:46,100 --> 03:21:47,100
with a finite system

4039
03:21:47,100 --> 03:21:48,100
of resources, this is what

4040
03:21:48,100 --> 03:21:49,100
we've got right now. So just

4041
03:21:49,100 --> 03:21:51,100
wanting to put this out there

4042
03:21:51,100 --> 03:21:52,100
for the board and the public

4043
03:21:52,100 --> 03:21:53,100
that we are

4044
03:21:53,100 --> 03:21:54,100
in fact investing millions

4045
03:21:54,100 --> 03:21:55,100
in our local schools for their

4046
03:21:55,100 --> 03:21:57,100
crisis response systems. We've

4047
03:21:57,100 --> 03:21:58,100
got a long way to go,

4048
03:21:58,100 --> 03:21:59,100
but we've got some dollars

4049
03:21:59,100 --> 03:22:00,100
in the game.

4050
03:22:00,100 --> 03:22:01,100
>> Another question

4051
03:22:01,100 --> 03:22:02,100
for you.

4052
03:22:02,100 --> 03:22:03,100
>> Sorry just before we leave

4053
03:22:03,100 --> 03:22:06,100
this. Does In Response or SAFE

4054
03:22:06,100 --> 03:22:08,100
MST respond

4055
03:22:09,100 --> 03:22:10,100
to schools as well?

4056
03:22:10,100 --> 03:22:12,401
>> Generally, no. Generally we

4057
03:22:13,100 --> 03:22:15,100
prefer that as CAPE. However,

4058
03:22:15,100 --> 03:22:17,100
in areas where we don't have a

4059
03:22:17,100 --> 03:22:18,100
CAPE team member or we don't

4060
03:22:18,100 --> 03:22:19,100
have adequate coverage

4061
03:22:19,100 --> 03:22:20,100
in response,

4062
03:22:20,100 --> 03:22:21,100
MST or SAFE could. They

4063
03:22:21,100 --> 03:22:22,100
certainly could be dispatched.

4064
03:22:22,100 --> 03:22:24,100
The CAPE clinicians really

4065
03:22:24,100 --> 03:22:25,100
though are children's

4066
03:22:25,100 --> 03:22:27,100
clinicians. Right? This is what

4067
03:22:27,100 --> 03:22:28,100
they went to school for,

4068
03:22:28,100 --> 03:22:29,100
this is what they do. So we can

4069
03:22:29,100 --> 03:22:31,100
cover both. It would not be

4070
03:22:31,100 --> 03:22:32,100
advisable to say remove CAPE

4071
03:22:32,100 --> 03:22:33,100
altogether and have MST and

4072
03:22:33,100 --> 03:22:35,100
those different groups kind

4073
03:22:35,100 --> 03:22:36,100
of COVID It is sort of two

4074
03:22:36,100 --> 03:22:38,100
different population basis,

4075
03:22:38,100 --> 03:22:39,100
but

4076
03:22:39,100 --> 03:22:42,100
in a pinch they could.

4077
03:22:42,100 --> 03:22:43,100
>> Yeah, I was just wondering

4078
03:22:43,100 --> 03:22:44,100
about, you know,

4079
03:22:44,100 --> 03:22:45,100
potential holes in the system

4080
03:22:45,100 --> 03:22:47,100
and whether they can be filled

4081
03:22:47,100 --> 03:22:49,100
that way.

4082
03:22:49,100 --> 03:22:50,100
>> Good question.

4083
03:22:50,100 --> 03:22:51,100
>> Thank you.

4084
03:22:51,100 --> 03:22:53,100
>> Next slide please. This is a

4085
03:22:53,100 --> 03:22:54,100
very simple slide, but this is

4086
03:22:54,100 --> 03:22:56,100
a very rocky situation that is

4087
03:22:56,100 --> 03:22:57,100
sort of waiting

4088
03:22:57,100 --> 03:22:58,100
for the state budget

4089
03:22:58,100 --> 03:22:59,100
to come out. The mobile crisis

4090
03:22:59,100 --> 03:23:00,100
system of care

4091
03:23:00,100 --> 03:23:02,100
across the county,

4092
03:23:02,100 --> 03:23:03,100
as I mentioned earlier,

4093
03:23:03,100 --> 03:23:04,100
is comprised

4094
03:23:04,100 --> 03:23:05,100
of three different systems.

4095
03:23:05,100 --> 03:23:06,100
To date, we have invested

4096
03:23:06,100 --> 03:23:08,100
about $12 billion just

4097
03:23:08,100 --> 03:23:09,100
in our partners alone. This is

4098
03:23:09,100 --> 03:23:10,100
$12 million going directly

4099
03:23:10,100 --> 03:23:11,100
to cities, going directly

4100
03:23:11,100 --> 03:23:13,100
to our partners outside

4101
03:23:13,100 --> 03:23:14,100
of the county

4102
03:23:14,100 --> 03:23:15,100
through the SAFE and

4103
03:23:15,100 --> 03:23:16,100
In response program. That

4104
03:23:16,100 --> 03:23:17,100
doesn't include a lot of

4105
03:23:17,100 --> 03:23:18,100
in kind staff work as well.

4106
03:23:18,100 --> 03:23:20,100
In fact,

4107
03:23:20,100 --> 03:23:21,100
we provide eight clinicians

4108
03:23:21,100 --> 03:23:23,100
to the city of Santa Rosa

4109
03:23:23,100 --> 03:23:25,100
in kind to run their

4110
03:23:25,100 --> 03:23:26,100
in response program. As I came

4111
03:23:26,100 --> 03:23:28,100
on board, just hitting my 10

4112
03:23:28,100 --> 03:23:30,100
month mark, one

4113
03:23:30,100 --> 03:23:31,100
of the big things for me

4114
03:23:31,100 --> 03:23:32,100
to dig

4115
03:23:32,100 --> 03:23:33,100
into was mobile crisis. The

4116
03:23:33,100 --> 03:23:34,100
costs continue to escalate. We

4117
03:23:34,100 --> 03:23:35,100
went from a few hundred

4118
03:23:35,100 --> 03:23:36,100
thousand dollars to almost $6

4119
03:23:36,100 --> 03:23:37,100
million a year just over the

4120
03:23:37,100 --> 03:23:38,100
last two or three years. And

4121
03:23:38,100 --> 03:23:39,100
the costs continue to grow.

4122
03:23:39,100 --> 03:23:40,100
One of the areas that we're

4123
03:23:40,100 --> 03:23:41,100
actively focusing

4124
03:23:41,100 --> 03:23:42,100
on right now is billing Medi

4125
03:23:42,100 --> 03:23:44,100
Cal. So as it stands today,

4126
03:23:44,100 --> 03:23:46,100
there is a Medi Cal mobile

4127
03:23:46,100 --> 03:23:48,100
crisis benefit that pays almost

4128
03:23:48,100 --> 03:23:50,100
$4,500 per instance per call.

4129
03:23:50,100 --> 03:23:52,100
The only system today that is

4130
03:23:52,100 --> 03:23:53,100
able to bill Medi Cal and is

4131
03:23:53,100 --> 03:23:54,100
actively billing Medi Cal

4132
03:23:54,100 --> 03:23:56,100
for those Calls is MST. And so

4133
03:23:56,100 --> 03:23:57,100
right now the county system is

4134
03:23:57,100 --> 03:23:58,100
doing that we are working with

4135
03:23:58,100 --> 03:23:59,100
in response and safe

4136
03:23:59,100 --> 03:24:01,100
to get there. Safe can bill

4137
03:24:01,100 --> 03:24:03,100
for a much lower Medi Cal

4138
03:24:03,100 --> 03:24:06,100
crisis benefit, but it's not

4139
03:24:07,100 --> 03:24:08,100
the mobile crisis benefit. We

4140
03:24:08,100 --> 03:24:09,100
we're talking hundreds

4141
03:24:09,100 --> 03:24:10,100
of dollars, not thousands

4142
03:24:10,100 --> 03:24:12,100
of dollars. And so one

4143
03:24:12,100 --> 03:24:14,100
of the requirements for both

4144
03:24:14,100 --> 03:24:16,100
of these programs

4145
03:24:16,100 --> 03:24:17,100
to really continue to receive

4146
03:24:17,100 --> 03:24:18,100
county partnership support or

4147
03:24:18,100 --> 03:24:19,100
funding is they have to build

4148
03:24:19,100 --> 03:24:20,100
Medi Cal. We just don't have

4149
03:24:20,100 --> 03:24:21,100
the measure of dollars

4150
03:24:21,100 --> 03:24:22,100
to continue to grow it. We

4151
03:24:22,100 --> 03:24:23,100
don't have other revenues

4152
03:24:23,100 --> 03:24:24,100
to continue to support it. And

4153
03:24:24,100 --> 03:24:25,100
most of the cities don't have

4154
03:24:25,100 --> 03:24:26,100
the money either. The problem

4155
03:24:26,100 --> 03:24:28,100
with this is in the governor's

4156
03:24:28,100 --> 03:24:29,100
proposed budget back in

4157
03:24:29,100 --> 03:24:30,100
January, there was a

4158
03:24:30,100 --> 03:24:32,100
stipulation added sort of at

4159
03:24:32,100 --> 03:24:34,100
the last minute that makes the

4160
03:24:34,100 --> 03:24:35,100
mobile Medi California crisis

4161
03:24:35,100 --> 03:24:36,100
benefit move from mandatory

4162
03:24:36,100 --> 03:24:38,100
to optional. That sounds fair

4163
03:24:38,100 --> 03:24:39,100
enough, right? Give counties

4164
03:24:39,100 --> 03:24:41,100
more choice and a semblance

4165
03:24:41,100 --> 03:24:42,100
of choice. It actually reduces

4166
03:24:42,100 --> 03:24:43,100
the reimbursement rate

4167
03:24:43,100 --> 03:24:45,100
by thousands of dollars. And so

4168
03:24:45,100 --> 03:24:46,100
it is a major blow

4169
03:24:46,100 --> 03:24:48,100
to this system of care. And

4170
03:24:48,100 --> 03:24:49,100
frankly,

4171
03:24:49,100 --> 03:24:50,100
we're keeping all eyes on the

4172
03:24:50,100 --> 03:24:51,100
may revise to see what happens

4173
03:24:51,100 --> 03:24:53,100
in the budget. If the governor

4174
03:24:53,100 --> 03:24:54,100
in fact keeps that change

4175
03:24:54,100 --> 03:24:55,100
in the budget, it will most

4176
03:24:55,100 --> 03:24:57,100
likely kill mobile crisis

4177
03:24:57,100 --> 03:24:58,100
across the county. I just don't

4178
03:24:58,100 --> 03:24:59,100
see any other way we can fund

4179
03:24:59,100 --> 03:25:01,100
it. There's not room

4180
03:25:01,100 --> 03:25:02,100
with measure O. And so that's

4181
03:25:02,100 --> 03:25:04,100
something we're sort

4182
03:25:04,100 --> 03:25:05,100
of waiting for. There's been a

4183
03:25:05,100 --> 03:25:06,100
lot of advocacy so far. We've

4184
03:25:06,100 --> 03:25:07,100
written our own legislators;

4185
03:25:07,100 --> 03:25:08,100
we've worked

4186
03:25:08,100 --> 03:25:09,100
with different advocacy groups.

4187
03:25:09,100 --> 03:25:10,100
We've worked

4188
03:25:10,100 --> 03:25:11,100
with our lobbyist and Will and

4189
03:25:11,100 --> 03:25:12,100
his team. We are sincerely

4190
03:25:12,100 --> 03:25:14,100
hoping that the governor

4191
03:25:14,100 --> 03:25:15,100
changes his mind on this

4192
03:25:15,100 --> 03:25:16,100
because this system has

4193
03:25:16,100 --> 03:25:17,100
provided real benefits for

4194
03:25:17,100 --> 03:25:19,100
Sonoma County. And without

4195
03:25:19,100 --> 03:25:20,100
Medi Cal sort of being the

4196
03:25:20,100 --> 03:25:21,100
central funding issue, Measure

4197
03:25:21,100 --> 03:25:23,100
O just isn't going to cut it. A

4198
03:25:23,100 --> 03:25:24,100
couple other things that I want

4199
03:25:24,100 --> 03:25:25,100
to add is there is a lot of

4200
03:25:25,100 --> 03:25:26,100
duplicate and there's probably

4201
03:25:26,100 --> 03:25:27,100
some room for synergy and maybe

4202
03:25:27,100 --> 03:25:30,100
a single system here. We're

4203
03:25:30,100 --> 03:25:31,100
sort of edging

4204
03:25:31,100 --> 03:25:33,100
to that right now. You know,

4205
03:25:33,100 --> 03:25:34,100
we all run 24/7 operations,

4206
03:25:34,100 --> 03:25:35,100
which was a big part

4207
03:25:35,100 --> 03:25:37,100
of why the cost increased. We

4208
03:25:37,100 --> 03:25:39,100
all have our own dispatchers,

4209
03:25:39,100 --> 03:25:40,100
which is kind

4210
03:25:40,100 --> 03:25:41,100
of redundant as well. You know,

4211
03:25:41,100 --> 03:25:42,100
we've got lots of different

4212
03:25:42,100 --> 03:25:43,100
staff and duplication and

4213
03:25:43,100 --> 03:25:44,100
policies and processes and

4214
03:25:44,100 --> 03:25:46,100
staff and technology

4215
03:25:46,100 --> 03:25:48,100
in some cases in response. And

4216
03:25:48,100 --> 03:25:49,100
safe specifically are using a

4217
03:25:49,100 --> 03:25:51,100
lot of their programs

4218
03:25:51,100 --> 03:25:52,100
for homeless response,

4219
03:25:52,100 --> 03:25:54,100
which is fantastic. But that's

4220
03:25:54,100 --> 03:25:55,100
also not really what measure O

4221
03:25:55,100 --> 03:25:56,100
is for. And that's definitely

4222
03:25:56,100 --> 03:25:58,100
what Medi Cal can bill for. So

4223
03:25:58,100 --> 03:26:00,100
to some degree, you know, we're

4224
03:26:00,100 --> 03:26:02,401
not really doing direct

4225
03:26:03,100 --> 03:26:04,100
homeless response for MSC. It

4226
03:26:04,100 --> 03:26:05,100
really is a pure mobile crisis

4227
03:26:05,100 --> 03:26:07,100
clinical program in response.

4228
03:26:07,100 --> 03:26:08,100
And SAFE both have components

4229
03:26:08,100 --> 03:26:09,100
and providers that do some

4230
03:26:09,100 --> 03:26:11,100
of that homeless work,

4231
03:26:11,100 --> 03:26:12,100
which is great, but it's also

4232
03:26:12,100 --> 03:26:13,100
not really an area that we have

4233
03:26:13,100 --> 03:26:15,100
the funding to support. And

4234
03:26:15,100 --> 03:26:16,100
then lastly, as of today, the

4235
03:26:16,100 --> 03:26:18,100
only teams that have verified

4236
03:26:18,100 --> 03:26:20,100
clinicians are the county EMST

4237
03:26:20,100 --> 03:26:21,100
team. And in response, it

4238
03:26:21,100 --> 03:26:23,100
doesn't mean SAFE doesn't want

4239
03:26:23,100 --> 03:26:25,100
to. They're working towards it,

4240
03:26:25,100 --> 03:26:26,100
and we are working hopefully

4241
03:26:26,100 --> 03:26:27,100
on iteration of a deal that

4242
03:26:27,100 --> 03:26:28,100
will get us there. The reason I

4243
03:26:28,100 --> 03:26:29,100
bring all this up again is

4244
03:26:29,100 --> 03:26:30,100
there's just a lot

4245
03:26:30,100 --> 03:26:33,100
of discussion from our city

4246
03:26:33,100 --> 03:26:34,100
partners wanting more funding.

4247
03:26:34,100 --> 03:26:35,100
There's a lot of discussion

4248
03:26:35,100 --> 03:26:36,100
at the state level

4249
03:26:36,100 --> 03:26:38,100
about overall Medi Cal funding.

4250
03:26:38,100 --> 03:26:39,100
And this will be a very hot

4251
03:26:39,100 --> 03:26:40,100
topic over the next couple

4252
03:26:40,100 --> 03:26:42,100
of years. To be frank, we're

4253
03:26:42,100 --> 03:26:43,100
running three duplicate

4254
03:26:43,100 --> 03:26:44,100
systems. Doesn't make a ton

4255
03:26:44,100 --> 03:26:45,100
of sense to me. I think there's

4256
03:26:45,100 --> 03:26:46,100
probably a better way

4257
03:26:46,100 --> 03:26:47,100
to do this across the county

4258
03:26:47,100 --> 03:26:48,100
with partners

4259
03:26:48,100 --> 03:26:50,100
with the cities together, but

4260
03:26:50,100 --> 03:26:51,100
this is an area where the costs

4261
03:26:51,100 --> 03:26:52,100
are growing out

4262
03:26:52,100 --> 03:26:53,100
of control and we are starting

4263
03:26:53,100 --> 03:26:54,100
to lose key revenue sources,

4264
03:26:54,100 --> 03:26:55,100
and measure just does not have

4265
03:26:55,100 --> 03:26:57,100
the fund balance to support.

4266
03:26:57,100 --> 03:26:58,100
So I do anticipate more

4267
03:26:58,100 --> 03:26:59,100
of this information coming back

4268
03:26:59,100 --> 03:27:01,100
to the board. I anticipate

4269
03:27:01,100 --> 03:27:02,100
you'll hear

4270
03:27:02,100 --> 03:27:03,100
from city managers,

4271
03:27:03,100 --> 03:27:04,100
city council members. This is

4272
03:27:04,100 --> 03:27:06,100
an area that. That we are a bit

4273
03:27:06,100 --> 03:27:07,100
concerned. I'll pause here

4274
03:27:07,100 --> 03:27:09,100
for questions.

4275
03:27:09,100 --> 03:27:10,100
>> Supervisor Hopkins.

4276
03:27:10,100 --> 03:27:11,100
>> Thanks. I apologize

4277
03:27:11,100 --> 03:27:12,100
in advance

4278
03:27:12,100 --> 03:27:13,100
for a preamble followed

4279
03:27:13,100 --> 03:27:15,100
by a leading question, but,

4280
03:27:15,100 --> 03:27:17,100
you know, I will say that I had

4281
03:27:17,100 --> 03:27:18,100
heartburn when we initially

4282
03:27:18,100 --> 03:27:19,100
funded these programs. Maybe it

4283
03:27:19,100 --> 03:27:21,100
was PTSD from working so hard

4284
03:27:21,100 --> 03:27:22,100
on fire consolidation,

4285
03:27:22,100 --> 03:27:23,100
where we're trying

4286
03:27:23,100 --> 03:27:25,100
to get towards fewer systems.

4287
03:27:25,100 --> 03:27:26,100
And I'm like, yeah, here we are

4288
03:27:26,100 --> 03:27:27,100
creating these systems with

4289
03:27:27,100 --> 03:27:28,100
their own unique identity and

4290
03:27:28,100 --> 03:27:29,100
branding. And yet, you know, we

4291
03:27:29,100 --> 03:27:31,100
approved this and we supported

4292
03:27:31,100 --> 03:27:32,100
it, really, in the hopes of

4293
03:27:32,100 --> 03:27:33,100
inspiring further collaboration

4294
03:27:33,100 --> 03:27:34,100
with the cities and really also

4295
03:27:34,100 --> 03:27:36,100
just supporting their vision

4296
03:27:36,100 --> 03:27:37,100
for their communities. That

4297
03:27:37,100 --> 03:27:38,100
said, it's crazy to me that we

4298
03:27:38,100 --> 03:27:40,100
don't have consistent access

4299
03:27:40,100 --> 03:27:41,100
to services across the county

4300
03:27:41,100 --> 03:27:42,100
and that we are funding these

4301
03:27:42,100 --> 03:27:43,100
all and that it. You know,

4302
03:27:43,100 --> 03:27:44,100
if you call in on one side

4303
03:27:44,100 --> 03:27:45,100
of the line, right,

4304
03:27:45,100 --> 03:27:46,100
you don't have access

4305
03:27:46,100 --> 03:27:48,100
to homeless services, but you

4306
03:27:48,100 --> 03:27:50,100
have everything else cross the

4307
03:27:50,100 --> 03:27:51,100
line and suddenly, okay,

4308
03:27:51,100 --> 03:27:52,100
homeless services, but, you

4309
03:27:52,100 --> 03:27:54,100
know, you don't. You can't

4310
03:27:54,100 --> 03:27:55,100
actually get any reimbursement

4311
03:27:55,100 --> 03:27:56,100
for the funding, right? Then go

4312
03:27:56,100 --> 03:27:57,100
on to another line, right,

4313
03:27:57,100 --> 03:27:58,100
and you have the homeless

4314
03:27:58,100 --> 03:27:59,100
services, but not even access

4315
03:27:59,100 --> 03:28:00,100
to clinicians and only partial

4316
03:28:00,100 --> 03:28:02,100
reimbursement. So I just feel

4317
03:28:02,100 --> 03:28:03,100
like we have to move away from

4318
03:28:03,100 --> 03:28:04,100
a system which creates de facto

4319
03:28:04,100 --> 03:28:05,100
inequities. It's, it's not

4320
03:28:05,100 --> 03:28:06,000
fair. And it also,

4321
03:28:06,000 --> 03:28:07,100
I think creates confusion.

4322
03:28:07,100 --> 03:28:08,100
Right. And, and so I,

4323
03:28:08,100 --> 03:28:09,100
I just feel like it's, it's

4324
03:28:09,100 --> 03:28:11,100
very, very problematic. And I

4325
03:28:11,100 --> 03:28:12,100
think that we need

4326
03:28:12,100 --> 03:28:13,100
to have like, you know,

4327
03:28:13,100 --> 03:28:14,100
these tough conversations

4328
03:28:14,100 --> 03:28:15,100
with our city partners

4329
03:28:15,100 --> 03:28:16,100
of how do we get to sort

4330
03:28:16,100 --> 03:28:17,100
of a one team,

4331
03:28:17,100 --> 03:28:19,100
one dream approach. Because,

4332
03:28:19,100 --> 03:28:20,100
you know, we,

4333
03:28:20,100 --> 03:28:21,100
and we had this conversation

4334
03:28:21,100 --> 03:28:22,100
of like, you can't have

4335
03:28:22,100 --> 03:28:23,100
like platinum,

4336
03:28:23,100 --> 03:28:24,100
gold and silver depending

4337
03:28:24,100 --> 03:28:25,100
on where you live,

4338
03:28:25,100 --> 03:28:26,100
like what do you have,

4339
03:28:26,100 --> 03:28:27,100
have access to? It's sort

4340
03:28:27,100 --> 03:28:28,100
of antithetical to, I think,

4341
03:28:28,100 --> 03:28:29,100
our vision,

4342
03:28:29,100 --> 03:28:30,100
which is a safety net that

4343
03:28:30,100 --> 03:28:31,100
really, you know, meets folks

4344
03:28:31,100 --> 03:28:32,100
where they are and provides

4345
03:28:32,100 --> 03:28:33,100
equal access

4346
03:28:33,100 --> 03:28:34,100
to services no matter what side

4347
03:28:34,100 --> 03:28:35,100
of the line you are in,

4348
03:28:35,100 --> 03:28:36,100
what city. Right.

4349
03:28:36,100 --> 03:28:37,100
Unincorporated incorporated.

4350
03:28:37,100 --> 03:28:39,100
So I guess my leading question

4351
03:28:39,100 --> 03:28:40,100
is like, how do we get

4352
03:28:40,100 --> 03:28:42,100
to that? And then I guess the

4353
03:28:42,100 --> 03:28:45,100
other question is, but I guess

4354
03:28:45,100 --> 03:28:46,100
it doesn't matter if the whole

4355
03:28:46,100 --> 03:28:48,100
system crumbles because,

4356
03:28:48,100 --> 03:28:50,100
and the state just kind

4357
03:28:50,100 --> 03:28:51,100
of drives a stake

4358
03:28:51,100 --> 03:28:53,100
in its heart. Is that,

4359
03:28:53,100 --> 03:28:54,100
is that kind

4360
03:28:54,100 --> 03:28:55,100
of the message that I'm getting

4361
03:28:55,100 --> 03:28:56,100
from you?

4362
03:28:56,100 --> 03:28:57,100
>> Yeah. There's two pathways

4363
03:28:57,100 --> 03:28:58,100
today. I think the first

4364
03:28:58,100 --> 03:28:59,100
pathway is really the pathway

4365
03:28:59,100 --> 03:29:00,100
that you discussed

4366
03:29:00,100 --> 03:29:01,100
in the first section

4367
03:29:01,100 --> 03:29:02,100
of your statement. And we are

4368
03:29:02,100 --> 03:29:03,100
getting on board today

4369
03:29:03,100 --> 03:29:04,100
to issue one year contracts

4370
03:29:04,100 --> 03:29:05,100
with the hope of longer term

4371
03:29:05,100 --> 03:29:06,100
contracts that drive us

4372
03:29:06,100 --> 03:29:07,100
toward a single system. So

4373
03:29:07,100 --> 03:29:08,100
today we don't have the same

4374
03:29:08,100 --> 03:29:09,100
reporting data, we don't have

4375
03:29:09,100 --> 03:29:10,100
the same policies and

4376
03:29:10,100 --> 03:29:11,100
procedures,

4377
03:29:11,100 --> 03:29:12,100
we don't have the same

4378
03:29:12,100 --> 03:29:13,100
staffing,

4379
03:29:13,100 --> 03:29:15,100
we don't have the same billing.

4380
03:29:15,100 --> 03:29:16,100
To participate or

4381
03:29:16,100 --> 03:29:17,100
to receive county funding for

4382
03:29:17,100 --> 03:29:18,100
Participation as of July 1st or

4383
03:29:18,100 --> 03:29:19,100
forward this year, you have to

4384
03:29:19,100 --> 03:29:21,100
be billing medical and you have

4385
03:29:21,100 --> 03:29:22,100
to have the similar data sets

4386
03:29:22,100 --> 03:29:23,100
and reporting that we're

4387
03:29:23,100 --> 03:29:24,100
requesting. That one year

4388
03:29:24,100 --> 03:29:25,100
contract will

4389
03:29:25,100 --> 03:29:26,100
at least get us all

4390
03:29:26,100 --> 03:29:27,100
on the same page. We'll have

4391
03:29:27,100 --> 03:29:28,100
apples to apples data. We'll

4392
03:29:28,100 --> 03:29:29,100
all be billing medical

4393
03:29:29,100 --> 03:29:30,100
to some degree. And that puts

4394
03:29:30,100 --> 03:29:31,100
us in a position

4395
03:29:31,100 --> 03:29:32,100
to have a larger discussion

4396
03:29:32,100 --> 03:29:34,100
for the next couple of years

4397
03:29:34,100 --> 03:29:35,100
in terms of a single system,

4398
03:29:35,100 --> 03:29:36,100
collaboration, et cetera,

4399
03:29:36,100 --> 03:29:37,100
et cetera. And I,

4400
03:29:37,100 --> 03:29:38,100
and I also want

4401
03:29:38,100 --> 03:29:39,100
to say that our partners at

4402
03:29:39,100 --> 03:29:41,100
Safe and Mobile Crisis, or I'm

4403
03:29:41,100 --> 03:29:42,100
sorry, in response, they do a

4404
03:29:42,100 --> 03:29:43,100
wonderful, wonderful job. I'm

4405
03:29:43,100 --> 03:29:44,100
not saying the county does a

4406
03:29:44,100 --> 03:29:45,100
better job. I'm not saying the

4407
03:29:45,100 --> 03:29:47,100
county does a worse job. And

4408
03:29:47,100 --> 03:29:48,100
frankly,

4409
03:29:48,100 --> 03:29:49,100
I don't necessarily care if

4410
03:29:49,100 --> 03:29:50,100
it's MST,

4411
03:29:50,100 --> 03:29:51,100
if it's safe or it's.

4412
03:29:51,100 --> 03:29:52,100
In response to your point,

4413
03:29:52,100 --> 03:29:53,100
we need a Single provider

4414
03:29:53,100 --> 03:29:54,100
across the county. You know, if

4415
03:29:54,100 --> 03:29:55,100
we had three ambulance

4416
03:29:55,100 --> 03:29:56,100
providers in the county

4417
03:29:56,100 --> 03:29:58,100
in different little pockets, it

4418
03:29:58,100 --> 03:29:59,100
would be an absolute nightmare.

4419
03:29:59,100 --> 03:30:00,100
And so we're,

4420
03:30:00,100 --> 03:30:01,100
we're working towards that.

4421
03:30:01,100 --> 03:30:02,100
And I think the city partners

4422
03:30:02,100 --> 03:30:03,100
have come

4423
03:30:03,100 --> 03:30:04,100
to that realization. Many of

4424
03:30:04,100 --> 03:30:05,100
their electeds are also saying

4425
03:30:05,100 --> 03:30:06,100
the same thing. So that's

4426
03:30:06,100 --> 03:30:07,100
great. So I think we're

4427
03:30:07,100 --> 03:30:08,100
on that path where we're kind

4428
03:30:08,100 --> 03:30:09,100
of moving slow and soft and

4429
03:30:09,100 --> 03:30:11,100
collaborative, which is good,

4430
03:30:11,100 --> 03:30:12,100
but I think we're nudging

4431
03:30:12,100 --> 03:30:13,100
in that direction. The nuclear

4432
03:30:13,100 --> 03:30:15,100
option, unfortunately,

4433
03:30:15,100 --> 03:30:16,100
is if the state budget goes

4434
03:30:16,100 --> 03:30:17,100
through the way it was

4435
03:30:17,100 --> 03:30:19,100
proposed, it really isn't worth

4436
03:30:19,100 --> 03:30:20,100
discussing any of this because

4437
03:30:20,100 --> 03:30:21,100
we just don't have long term

4438
03:30:21,100 --> 03:30:22,100
revenues to support. So we can

4439
03:30:22,100 --> 03:30:24,100
do our best with measure O

4440
03:30:24,100 --> 03:30:26,100
for the next couple years. It

4441
03:30:26,100 --> 03:30:27,100
won't cover the full cost of

4442
03:30:27,100 --> 03:30:28,100
the program and honestly it's

4443
03:30:28,100 --> 03:30:29,100
capped already and then it's

4444
03:30:29,100 --> 03:30:31,100
set to expire a few years

4445
03:30:31,100 --> 03:30:32,100
out as well. So that's pretty

4446
03:30:32,100 --> 03:30:33,100
much game over, most likely

4447
03:30:33,100 --> 03:30:35,100
for MST, unless we decide

4448
03:30:35,100 --> 03:30:36,100
to inject a whole lot of

4449
03:30:36,100 --> 03:30:37,100
funding that doesn't exist

4450
03:30:37,100 --> 03:30:38,100
today from cities and

4451
03:30:38,100 --> 03:30:40,100
from the county. So we're sort

4452
03:30:40,100 --> 03:30:41,100
of waiting to see what happens

4453
03:30:41,100 --> 03:30:42,100
with that. May revise,

4454
03:30:42,100 --> 03:30:44,100
hopefully that stays intact.

4455
03:30:44,100 --> 03:30:45,100
We do have at least a year

4456
03:30:45,100 --> 03:30:47,100
Runway. The benefit runs

4457
03:30:47,100 --> 03:30:48,100
through the end of next year.

4458
03:30:48,100 --> 03:30:49,100
But is it really worth

4459
03:30:49,100 --> 03:30:51,100
developing systems, hiring

4460
03:30:51,100 --> 03:30:52,100
staff, doing all this stuff

4461
03:30:52,100 --> 03:30:53,100
for a benefit that's going to

4462
03:30:53,100 --> 03:30:54,100
go away is the big question.

4463
03:30:54,100 --> 03:30:55,100
>> So if the state funding goes

4464
03:30:55,100 --> 03:30:57,100
away, do we just have

4465
03:30:57,100 --> 03:30:58,100
to revert to what now feels

4466
03:30:58,100 --> 03:30:59,100
like a very antiquated model

4467
03:30:59,100 --> 03:31:00,100
where it is only always a law

4468
03:31:00,100 --> 03:31:02,100
enforcement response or is

4469
03:31:02,100 --> 03:31:03,100
there some opportunity

4470
03:31:03,100 --> 03:31:05,100
to say, transport right. To,

4471
03:31:05,100 --> 03:31:07,100
you know, a facility

4472
03:31:07,100 --> 03:31:08,100
like I just. What does that

4473
03:31:08,100 --> 03:31:10,100
look like?

4474
03:31:10,100 --> 03:31:11,100
>> I think we'll come back and

4475
03:31:11,100 --> 03:31:12,100
bring the board options if

4476
03:31:12,100 --> 03:31:13,100
in fact that is the case. And

4477
03:31:13,100 --> 03:31:14,100
it may look like something

4478
03:31:14,100 --> 03:31:15,100
like Instead of having 247

4479
03:31:15,100 --> 03:31:16,100
coverage, maybe we have peak

4480
03:31:16,100 --> 03:31:17,100
hour coverage. Right. Or maybe

4481
03:31:17,100 --> 03:31:18,100
we have one vehicle that

4482
03:31:18,100 --> 03:31:20,100
services the entire county

4483
03:31:20,100 --> 03:31:23,100
versus a fleet of vehicles,

4484
03:31:23,100 --> 03:31:24,100
so response times grow. It may

4485
03:31:24,100 --> 03:31:26,100
be, you know,

4486
03:31:26,100 --> 03:31:27,100
if you give us this much extra

4487
03:31:27,100 --> 03:31:29,100
funding, we can do X or Y or Z,

4488
03:31:29,100 --> 03:31:32,100
but we just kind of won't know

4489
03:31:32,100 --> 03:31:34,100
until we know we do have some

4490
03:31:34,100 --> 03:31:35,100
plans. I don't suspect it will

4491
03:31:35,100 --> 03:31:36,100
completely unravel,

4492
03:31:36,100 --> 03:31:38,100
but it won't look anything

4493
03:31:38,100 --> 03:31:39,100
close

4494
03:31:39,100 --> 03:31:40,100
to the way it looks today.

4495
03:31:40,100 --> 03:31:41,100
>> And then last question,

4496
03:31:41,100 --> 03:31:42,100
just

4497
03:31:42,100 --> 03:31:43,100
since you mentioned that, you

4498
03:31:43,100 --> 03:31:44,100
know, a couple of the models

4499
03:31:44,100 --> 03:31:45,100
have actually heavily tilted

4500
03:31:45,100 --> 03:31:46,100
towards homeless services. How

4501
03:31:46,100 --> 03:31:47,100
do you feel when we look

4502
03:31:47,100 --> 03:31:48,100
at the county in terms of, you

4503
03:31:48,100 --> 03:31:50,100
know, homelessness, outreach,

4504
03:31:50,100 --> 03:31:52,100
team access? Right. Because if

4505
03:31:52,100 --> 03:31:53,100
These. If some

4506
03:31:53,100 --> 03:31:54,100
of these teams, at least,

4507
03:31:54,100 --> 03:31:56,100
are sort of focusing on that

4508
03:31:56,100 --> 03:31:57,100
inside these city

4509
03:31:57,100 --> 03:31:59,100
jurisdictions,

4510
03:31:59,100 --> 03:32:02,100
then what is happening Right.

4511
03:32:02,100 --> 03:32:03,100
In the other cities in

4512
03:32:03,100 --> 03:32:05,100
unincorporated communities that

4513
03:32:05,100 --> 03:32:07,100
is, is or is not equivalent?

4514
03:32:07,100 --> 03:32:09,100
Because that seems like another

4515
03:32:09,100 --> 03:32:10,100
really important thing is how

4516
03:32:10,100 --> 03:32:11,100
do we ensure, again, that sort

4517
03:32:11,100 --> 03:32:12,100
of equity of service, you know,

4518
03:32:12,100 --> 03:32:13,100
access in terms

4519
03:32:13,100 --> 03:32:14,100
of homeless services

4520
03:32:14,100 --> 03:32:15,100
across the county?

4521
03:32:15,100 --> 03:32:16,100
>> Yeah. I think, you know,

4522
03:32:16,100 --> 03:32:17,100
the Swiss army knife approach,

4523
03:32:17,100 --> 03:32:18,100
I think is the absolute best

4524
03:32:18,100 --> 03:32:19,100
practice if you can do that.

4525
03:32:19,100 --> 03:32:20,100
And I think in many cases, you

4526
03:32:20,100 --> 03:32:21,100
know,

4527
03:32:21,100 --> 03:32:22,100
within response and was safe,

4528
03:32:22,100 --> 03:32:23,100
they are running programs where

4529
03:32:23,100 --> 03:32:24,100
if it's a nuisance call,

4530
03:32:24,100 --> 03:32:26,100
if it's a homeless call,

4531
03:32:26,100 --> 03:32:27,100
if it's a mental health call,

4532
03:32:27,100 --> 03:32:29,100
if it's a gray area call,

4533
03:32:29,100 --> 03:32:30,100
that's probably not law

4534
03:32:30,100 --> 03:32:32,100
enforcement, they can respond,

4535
03:32:32,100 --> 03:32:33,100
which is great. And I think,

4536
03:32:33,100 --> 03:32:34,100
honestly, having programs

4537
03:32:34,100 --> 03:32:36,100
like that are amazing. But

4538
03:32:36,100 --> 03:32:38,100
Measure O is a behavioral

4539
03:32:38,100 --> 03:32:39,100
health funding source,

4540
03:32:39,100 --> 03:32:42,601
and you can't bill Medi Cal

4541
03:32:43,100 --> 03:32:45,100
for those other things.

4542
03:32:45,100 --> 03:32:46,100
Right. So MST only deploys for

4543
03:32:46,100 --> 03:32:47,100
clinical crisis calls that are

4544
03:32:47,100 --> 03:32:48,100
very rigid and there's a set

4545
03:32:48,100 --> 03:32:49,100
criteria. Would I love

4546
03:32:49,100 --> 03:32:50,100
to have like, the Swiss army

4547
03:32:50,100 --> 03:32:51,100
knife approach

4548
03:32:51,100 --> 03:32:52,100
across the county? Absolutely.

4549
03:32:52,100 --> 03:32:53,100
But how do we fund it is the

4550
03:32:53,100 --> 03:32:54,100
big question. So, you know,

4551
03:32:54,100 --> 03:32:55,100
again, if you can go back one

4552
03:32:55,100 --> 03:32:56,100
slide, really quick,

4553
03:32:56,100 --> 03:32:59,601
one more. Sorry. The reason I

4554
03:33:01,100 --> 03:33:02,100
want

4555
03:33:02,100 --> 03:33:03,100
to show you this is you look

4556
03:33:03,100 --> 03:33:04,100
at the number of calls there,

4557
03:33:04,100 --> 03:33:06,100
right? Mobile support's 1469.

4558
03:33:06,100 --> 03:33:07,100
They are literally covering the

4559
03:33:07,100 --> 03:33:08,100
entire county. It's the

4560
03:33:08,100 --> 03:33:09,100
unincorporated,

4561
03:33:09,100 --> 03:33:10,100
but also several cities. The

4562
03:33:10,100 --> 03:33:12,100
populations

4563
03:33:12,100 --> 03:33:13,100
for mobile support team in

4564
03:33:13,100 --> 03:33:14,100
response and SAFE are roughly

4565
03:33:14,100 --> 03:33:15,100
the same. Same the number

4566
03:33:15,100 --> 03:33:16,100
of citizens

4567
03:33:16,100 --> 03:33:17,100
in those districts. If you look

4568
03:33:17,100 --> 03:33:18,100
at the call differences,

4569
03:33:18,100 --> 03:33:19,100
though, so 1500

4570
03:33:19,100 --> 03:33:21,100
for mobile support team, 5800

4571
03:33:21,100 --> 03:33:23,100
for in response, and then

4572
03:33:23,100 --> 03:33:25,100
13,000 plus for safe. Those

4573
03:33:25,100 --> 03:33:26,100
calls are not apples

4574
03:33:26,100 --> 03:33:28,100
to apples, Right. So one

4575
03:33:28,100 --> 03:33:29,100
of those is an apple. One's a

4576
03:33:29,100 --> 03:33:30,100
banana, one's a cucumber. And

4577
03:33:30,100 --> 03:33:31,100
so the 13,000 calls they're

4578
03:33:31,100 --> 03:33:33,100
seeing for SAFE are not the

4579
03:33:33,100 --> 03:33:34,100
highest need clinical calls

4580
03:33:34,100 --> 03:33:35,100
that MST is saying. I'm not

4581
03:33:35,100 --> 03:33:37,100
saying those are bad calls.

4582
03:33:37,100 --> 03:33:39,100
They're wonderful. But we are

4583
03:33:39,100 --> 03:33:40,100
not providing the same services

4584
03:33:40,100 --> 03:33:42,100
today. And it's expensive,

4585
03:33:42,100 --> 03:33:43,100
right? It's expensive

4586
03:33:43,100 --> 03:33:44,100
to respond to those calls. So

4587
03:33:44,100 --> 03:33:45,100
that is a big part of the issue

4588
03:33:45,100 --> 03:33:46,100
is we are offering three sets

4589
03:33:46,100 --> 03:33:47,100
of services

4590
03:33:47,100 --> 03:33:50,100
across the county. More is

4591
03:33:50,100 --> 03:33:51,100
always better,

4592
03:33:51,100 --> 03:33:52,100
but more costs a lot

4593
03:33:52,100 --> 03:33:53,100
of money.

4594
03:33:53,100 --> 03:33:54,100
>> Thank you so much

4595
03:33:54,100 --> 03:33:56,100
for that.

4596
03:33:56,100 --> 03:33:58,100
>> Supervisor Rabbitt.

4597
03:33:59,100 --> 03:34:00,100
>> Thank you very much. I

4598
03:34:00,100 --> 03:34:01,100
appreciate all the work and

4599
03:34:01,100 --> 03:34:02,100
appreciate the. Well, yeah,

4600
03:34:02,100 --> 03:34:04,401
I appreciate the conundrum

4601
03:34:07,100 --> 03:34:08,100
we're in and waiting

4602
03:34:08,100 --> 03:34:09,100
for the state

4603
03:34:09,100 --> 03:34:10,100
to see where they go. And I

4604
03:34:10,100 --> 03:34:11,100
take it that. And I know that

4605
03:34:11,100 --> 03:34:12,100
part of this was collecting the

4606
03:34:12,100 --> 03:34:14,100
data. And again we had the

4607
03:34:14,100 --> 03:34:16,100
Supervisor, Coursey and I,

4608
03:34:16,100 --> 03:34:18,100
and you were there as well,

4609
03:34:18,100 --> 03:34:21,100
had the meeting down in

4610
03:34:21,100 --> 03:34:23,401
Petaluma talking about safe,

4611
03:34:24,100 --> 03:34:26,100
which is a great program. When

4612
03:34:26,100 --> 03:34:27,100
we, you know, to be truthful,

4613
03:34:27,100 --> 03:34:28,100
right when we started this

4614
03:34:28,100 --> 03:34:30,100
thing,

4615
03:34:31,100 --> 03:34:32,100
MST predated everything.

4616
03:34:32,100 --> 03:34:35,100
Jeremiah Chass, I think was the

4617
03:34:35,100 --> 03:34:37,100
instigator or the impetus

4618
03:34:37,100 --> 03:34:39,100
there. And then, you know,

4619
03:34:39,100 --> 03:34:42,100
the idea was to have this

4620
03:34:42,100 --> 03:34:43,100
one-year pilot program. The

4621
03:34:43,100 --> 03:34:45,100
great thing is that everything

4622
03:34:45,100 --> 03:34:46,100
got there was a lot

4623
03:34:46,100 --> 03:34:48,100
of ownership by the cities of

4624
03:34:48,100 --> 03:34:50,100
these programs and they love

4625
03:34:50,100 --> 03:34:51,100
them. Well, I understand why

4626
03:34:51,100 --> 03:34:52,100
and I live in Petaluma and I

4627
03:34:52,100 --> 03:34:53,100
know that those 13,000 calls,

4628
03:34:53,100 --> 03:34:54,100
a lot of them are the homeless

4629
03:34:54,100 --> 03:34:55,100
outreach piece where for me

4630
03:34:55,100 --> 03:34:57,401
personally that's also helping

4631
03:34:58,100 --> 03:35:00,100
the city out and the city then

4632
03:35:00,100 --> 03:35:01,100
should be a financial partner

4633
03:35:01,100 --> 03:35:03,100
in that. And I was going to ask

4634
03:35:03,100 --> 03:35:05,100
if I know you're collecting

4635
03:35:05,100 --> 03:35:06,100
data but do you have any data

4636
03:35:06,100 --> 03:35:09,601
yet that starts to talk about

4637
03:35:10,100 --> 03:35:11,100
of those,

4638
03:35:11,100 --> 03:35:12,100
what percentage overall are

4639
03:35:12,100 --> 03:35:15,100
truly, you know, mental health

4640
03:35:16,100 --> 03:35:17,100
crisis calls versus homeless

4641
03:35:17,100 --> 03:35:19,100
check.

4642
03:35:22,100 --> 03:35:23,100
>> We really don't and we

4643
03:35:23,100 --> 03:35:24,100
probably won't until starting

4644
03:35:24,100 --> 03:35:25,100
July 1st with a new MOU and new

4645
03:35:25,100 --> 03:35:26,100
data requirements. And again,

4646
03:35:26,100 --> 03:35:28,100
we're tracking data completely

4647
03:35:28,100 --> 03:35:29,100
differently.

4648
03:35:29,100 --> 03:35:30,100
In some cases we have it,

4649
03:35:30,100 --> 03:35:31,100
some cases we don't. And that's

4650
03:35:31,100 --> 03:35:32,100
just the way the three systems

4651
03:35:32,100 --> 03:35:33,100
were sort

4652
03:35:33,100 --> 03:35:35,100
of set up unfortunately.

4653
03:35:35,100 --> 03:35:36,100
>> Yeah, and the last thing

4654
03:35:36,100 --> 03:35:37,100
I'll say,

4655
03:35:37,100 --> 03:35:38,100
I mean I as my colleague said,

4656
03:35:38,100 --> 03:35:39,100
I'm all for opportunities.

4657
03:35:39,100 --> 03:35:40,100
They should be equal throughout

4658
03:35:40,100 --> 03:35:42,100
the county. This is said that

4659
03:35:42,100 --> 03:35:43,100
earlier on another item

4660
03:35:43,100 --> 03:35:45,100
but this is true for here. You

4661
03:35:45,100 --> 03:35:49,100
know, I don't know if, I don't

4662
03:35:49,100 --> 03:35:51,100
know if there's a plan C or D.

4663
03:35:51,100 --> 03:35:53,100
But many years ago I think

4664
03:35:53,100 --> 03:35:54,100
including when I was

4665
03:35:54,100 --> 03:35:56,100
on city council in Petaluma, we

4666
03:35:56,100 --> 03:35:58,401
had non uniformed police

4667
03:35:59,100 --> 03:36:01,401
officers roam the river

4668
03:36:02,100 --> 03:36:03,100
at that time checking in

4669
03:36:03,100 --> 03:36:06,601
on folks and maybe there's a

4670
03:36:07,100 --> 03:36:09,100
way to embed or some other less

4671
03:36:09,100 --> 03:36:12,100
NGO led and maybe more towards

4672
03:36:12,100 --> 03:36:13,100
a grant funding for whether

4673
03:36:13,100 --> 03:36:15,100
it's law enforcement or

4674
03:36:15,100 --> 03:36:17,100
through the sheriff's office or

4675
03:36:17,100 --> 03:36:20,100
through whomever that if there

4676
03:36:20,100 --> 03:36:22,100
is a call that they can respond

4677
03:36:22,100 --> 03:36:24,100
to. Again, just looking for

4678
03:36:24,100 --> 03:36:26,100
other alternatives because I

4679
03:36:26,100 --> 03:36:27,100
think that you're right if it

4680
03:36:27,100 --> 03:36:29,100
goes away because

4681
03:36:29,100 --> 03:36:30,100
of the state budget crisis,

4682
03:36:30,100 --> 03:36:33,100
people will be clamoring to

4683
03:36:34,100 --> 03:36:36,100
find alternative sources and

4684
03:36:36,100 --> 03:36:38,100
it's a big ticket item that is

4685
03:36:38,100 --> 03:36:39,100
going to be tough

4686
03:36:39,100 --> 03:36:41,100
to find those dollars. So

4687
03:36:41,100 --> 03:36:43,100
appreciate that. Thank you.

4688
03:36:43,100 --> 03:36:44,100
>> Absolutely. I guess the only

4689
03:36:44,100 --> 03:36:46,100
thing I add really quickly too

4690
03:36:46,100 --> 03:36:48,100
is the board could direct us

4691
03:36:48,100 --> 03:36:49,100
to spend measure of dollars

4692
03:36:49,100 --> 03:36:52,100
elsewhere. I mean it's pretty

4693
03:36:52,100 --> 03:36:53,100
much fully expended today

4694
03:36:53,100 --> 03:36:54,100
but you could Say we want you

4695
03:36:54,100 --> 03:36:56,100
to cut program X to give mobile

4696
03:36:56,100 --> 03:36:57,100
crisis more dollars. And that's

4697
03:36:57,100 --> 03:36:59,100
a choice we could make. The

4698
03:36:59,100 --> 03:37:00,100
problem is there's no extra

4699
03:37:00,100 --> 03:37:01,100
fund balance or extra money.

4700
03:37:01,100 --> 03:37:02,100
So we'd literally have

4701
03:37:02,100 --> 03:37:03,100
to decide where do we want to

4702
03:37:03,100 --> 03:37:04,100
cut throughout this

4703
03:37:04,100 --> 03:37:05,100
presentation

4704
03:37:05,100 --> 03:37:06,100
to give more dollars elsewhere.

4705
03:37:06,100 --> 03:37:07,100
And that's the decision point

4706
03:37:07,100 --> 03:37:08,100
that could be discussed as

4707
03:37:08,100 --> 03:37:10,100
well. Next slide, please. And

4708
03:37:10,100 --> 03:37:11,100
so we're kind of rolling

4709
03:37:11,100 --> 03:37:12,100
through here. And again, these

4710
03:37:12,100 --> 03:37:13,100
are the much smaller categories

4711
03:37:13,100 --> 03:37:14,100
of Measure O's,

4712
03:37:14,100 --> 03:37:15,100
mental health and substance use

4713
03:37:15,100 --> 03:37:17,100
to outpatient services. I won't

4714
03:37:17,100 --> 03:37:18,100
go too far

4715
03:37:18,100 --> 03:37:20,100
into the weeds here,

4716
03:37:20,100 --> 03:37:22,100
but again, this does a lot

4717
03:37:22,100 --> 03:37:23,100
of work in providing access

4718
03:37:23,100 --> 03:37:24,100
to substance use disorder. The

4719
03:37:24,100 --> 03:37:25,100
opioid settlement funds,

4720
03:37:25,100 --> 03:37:27,100
frankly, have been a godsend

4721
03:37:27,100 --> 03:37:28,100
in this area and have allowed

4722
03:37:28,100 --> 03:37:29,100
us to sort

4723
03:37:29,100 --> 03:37:30,100
of reduce expenditures

4724
03:37:30,100 --> 03:37:31,100
to use those dollars instead.

4725
03:37:31,100 --> 03:37:32,100
Those dollars are finite. And

4726
03:37:32,100 --> 03:37:33,100
so we're, you know, kind

4727
03:37:33,100 --> 03:37:34,100
of squirreling away a nest egg

4728
03:37:34,100 --> 03:37:35,100
for some time away.

4729
03:37:35,100 --> 03:37:36,100
But we were able to spend

4730
03:37:36,100 --> 03:37:38,100
about 3.7 million and treat

4731
03:37:38,100 --> 03:37:40,100
hundreds, almost 1,000 folks

4732
03:37:40,100 --> 03:37:41,100
for mental health and SUD

4733
03:37:41,100 --> 03:37:44,100
treatment over the last year.

4734
03:37:45,100 --> 03:37:47,100
Next slide, please. And these

4735
03:37:47,100 --> 03:37:48,100
are the two smaller categories.

4736
03:37:48,100 --> 03:37:49,100
So again,

4737
03:37:49,100 --> 03:37:50,100
there was a very small

4738
03:37:50,100 --> 03:37:51,100
component

4739
03:37:51,100 --> 03:37:53,100
of behavioral health,

4740
03:37:53,100 --> 03:37:54,100
homeless and care coordination,

4741
03:37:54,100 --> 03:37:55,100
about $5 million. This went

4742
03:37:55,100 --> 03:37:57,100
to a variety of areas. This is

4743
03:37:57,100 --> 03:37:58,100
the primary funding source for

4744
03:37:58,100 --> 03:38:00,100
our heart and soul teams here

4745
03:38:00,100 --> 03:38:02,100
in the county. We were able

4746
03:38:02,100 --> 03:38:04,100
to service 250 chronically

4747
03:38:04,100 --> 03:38:05,100
homeless individuals this year

4748
03:38:05,100 --> 03:38:06,100
and get 86 individuals

4749
03:38:06,100 --> 03:38:07,100
permanently sheltered and

4750
03:38:07,100 --> 03:38:08,100
housed. And again,

4751
03:38:08,100 --> 03:38:09,100
we had some other funding kind

4752
03:38:09,100 --> 03:38:10,100
of go out to a variety

4753
03:38:10,100 --> 03:38:11,100
of different places to

4754
03:38:11,100 --> 03:38:12,100
emergency shelter and a few

4755
03:38:12,100 --> 03:38:13,100
other components as well. This

4756
03:38:13,100 --> 03:38:14,100
is an area where I feel

4757
03:38:14,100 --> 03:38:15,100
like we can probably bill more

4758
03:38:15,100 --> 03:38:17,100
of our internal staff time to

4759
03:38:17,100 --> 03:38:19,100
grants and other funding

4760
03:38:19,100 --> 03:38:20,100
sources. And so through future

4761
03:38:20,100 --> 03:38:21,100
budget processes,

4762
03:38:21,100 --> 03:38:22,100
we are trying

4763
03:38:22,100 --> 03:38:23,100
to become less and less reliant

4764
03:38:23,100 --> 03:38:25,100
on Measure O for our internal

4765
03:38:25,100 --> 03:38:26,100
homeless services and more

4766
03:38:26,100 --> 03:38:27,100
reliant

4767
03:38:27,100 --> 03:38:28,100
on behavioral health funding,

4768
03:38:28,100 --> 03:38:29,100
billing, Medi Cal and other

4769
03:38:29,100 --> 03:38:30,100
homeless grants that are

4770
03:38:30,100 --> 03:38:31,100
related here. So this is an

4771
03:38:31,100 --> 03:38:33,100
area we have some opportunity

4772
03:38:33,100 --> 03:38:34,100
to maybe squeeze some savings

4773
03:38:34,100 --> 03:38:35,100
out over future years. Next

4774
03:38:35,100 --> 03:38:37,100
slide. And then the last one is

4775
03:38:37,100 --> 03:38:40,100
the TES portion of Measure O.

4776
03:38:40,100 --> 03:38:41,100
It's the transitional and

4777
03:38:41,100 --> 03:38:43,100
permanent supportive housing.

4778
03:38:43,100 --> 03:38:44,100
And this predominantly went

4779
03:38:44,100 --> 03:38:45,100
to supporting Project Home Key

4780
03:38:45,100 --> 03:38:46,100
project this year. 312 beds.

4781
03:38:46,100 --> 03:38:47,100
Seven sites are actively

4782
03:38:47,100 --> 03:38:49,100
in development

4783
03:38:49,100 --> 03:38:50,100
across the county. But, you

4784
03:38:50,100 --> 03:38:51,100
know,

4785
03:38:51,100 --> 03:38:52,100
if someone needs a small amount

4786
03:38:52,100 --> 03:38:53,100
of money

4787
03:38:53,100 --> 03:38:54,100
to close a gap or they're, you

4788
03:38:54,100 --> 03:38:55,100
know, got a bridge financing,

4789
03:38:55,100 --> 03:38:57,100
this is a great tool for us to

4790
03:38:57,100 --> 03:38:58,100
provide a couple hundred

4791
03:38:58,100 --> 03:38:59,100
thousand dollars or up

4792
03:38:59,100 --> 03:39:00,100
to a million bucks

4793
03:39:00,100 --> 03:39:01,100
to help kind

4794
03:39:01,100 --> 03:39:02,100
of close that deal

4795
03:39:02,100 --> 03:39:03,100
to get some PSH beds. So again,

4796
03:39:03,100 --> 03:39:04,100
a Very small amount actually

4797
03:39:04,100 --> 03:39:05,100
spent

4798
03:39:05,100 --> 03:39:06,100
on homelessness and housing.

4799
03:39:06,100 --> 03:39:07,100
Even though a lot

4800
03:39:07,100 --> 03:39:08,100
of folks feel like Measure O

4801
03:39:08,100 --> 03:39:09,100
was a homeless and housing

4802
03:39:09,100 --> 03:39:10,100
grant, it really wasn't based

4803
03:39:10,100 --> 03:39:11,100
on the language in the

4804
03:39:11,100 --> 03:39:13,100
in the voter approved measure.

4805
03:39:13,100 --> 03:39:16,100
Next slide. This is an area

4806
03:39:16,100 --> 03:39:17,100
that I want to point

4807
03:39:17,100 --> 03:39:18,100
out is a little nerve wracking.

4808
03:39:18,100 --> 03:39:21,601
And so whenever you have a

4809
03:39:22,100 --> 03:39:23,100
sales tax measure, you start

4810
03:39:23,100 --> 03:39:24,100
collecting the sales tax

4811
03:39:24,100 --> 03:39:25,100
after it passes. It takes a

4812
03:39:25,100 --> 03:39:27,100
while to really ramp up,

4813
03:39:27,100 --> 03:39:28,100
right? So you've got

4814
03:39:28,100 --> 03:39:29,100
to hire staff, you've got

4815
03:39:29,100 --> 03:39:30,100
to establish contracts,

4816
03:39:30,100 --> 03:39:31,100
you kind of have

4817
03:39:31,100 --> 03:39:32,100
to get the program running. We

4818
03:39:32,100 --> 03:39:33,100
had a very,

4819
03:39:33,100 --> 03:39:34,100
very high fund balance in

4820
03:39:34,100 --> 03:39:35,100
Measure O

4821
03:39:35,100 --> 03:39:36,100
for the first couple years of

4822
03:39:36,100 --> 03:39:37,100
Measure O. And again,

4823
03:39:37,100 --> 03:39:38,100
that's kind of normal. It takes

4824
03:39:38,100 --> 03:39:39,100
time to get staff on board. It

4825
03:39:39,100 --> 03:39:40,100
takes time to get contracts,

4826
03:39:40,100 --> 03:39:41,100
takes time

4827
03:39:41,100 --> 03:39:42,100
to get those billings in. We

4828
03:39:42,100 --> 03:39:43,100
are fully in the swing

4829
03:39:43,100 --> 03:39:44,100
of things now. And again,

4830
03:39:44,100 --> 03:39:45,100
like the Measure O machine is

4831
03:39:45,100 --> 03:39:47,100
pretty much fully expanded and

4832
03:39:47,100 --> 03:39:49,100
running. We started this last

4833
03:39:49,100 --> 03:39:52,100
year with a $35 million fund

4834
03:39:53,100 --> 03:39:54,100
balance and that will drop

4835
03:39:54,100 --> 03:39:56,100
down to 13 million by the end

4836
03:39:56,100 --> 03:39:57,100
of the fiscal year. So again,

4837
03:39:57,100 --> 03:39:58,100
we are spending down that fund

4838
03:39:58,100 --> 03:40:00,100
balance very fast. There is not

4839
03:40:00,100 --> 03:40:01,100
a secret pot of Measure O money

4840
03:40:01,100 --> 03:40:03,100
hidden somewhere. We're not

4841
03:40:03,100 --> 03:40:04,100
squirreling away Measure O

4842
03:40:04,100 --> 03:40:05,100
money

4843
03:40:05,100 --> 03:40:06,100
to support other things. It is

4844
03:40:06,100 --> 03:40:08,100
a very expensive program.

4845
03:40:08,100 --> 03:40:09,100
Now. We're spending pretty much

4846
03:40:09,100 --> 03:40:11,100
what we're taking. In the end

4847
03:40:11,100 --> 03:40:13,100
of 2627, we project that fund

4848
03:40:13,100 --> 03:40:14,100
balance to drop even further

4849
03:40:14,100 --> 03:40:15,100
down to $10 million. And

4850
03:40:15,100 --> 03:40:17,100
at the end of Measure O

4851
03:40:17,100 --> 03:40:21,100
in a couple years from now, we

4852
03:40:21,100 --> 03:40:22,100
project that we'll actually end

4853
03:40:22,100 --> 03:40:24,100
at just about zero. So we're

4854
03:40:24,100 --> 03:40:25,100
about negative $600,000 today

4855
03:40:25,100 --> 03:40:27,100
with our future projection

4856
03:40:27,100 --> 03:40:28,100
through the life of Measure

4857
03:40:28,100 --> 03:40:30,100
O. So again, ending really

4858
03:40:30,100 --> 03:40:31,100
with no fund balance, no

4859
03:40:31,100 --> 03:40:33,100
change, no. No extra there,

4860
03:40:33,100 --> 03:40:34,100
we're kind of right on track.

4861
03:40:34,100 --> 03:40:35,100
So that's a good thing. We're

4862
03:40:35,100 --> 03:40:36,100
not over expending. We're right

4863
03:40:36,100 --> 03:40:38,100
on budget. But I think the

4864
03:40:38,100 --> 03:40:39,100
notion that the county has

4865
03:40:39,100 --> 03:40:40,100
extra measurable to hand out,

4866
03:40:40,100 --> 03:40:42,100
we really just don't. So if we

4867
03:40:42,100 --> 03:40:43,100
want to fund things with

4868
03:40:43,100 --> 03:40:44,100
Measure O, we have to cut

4869
03:40:44,100 --> 03:40:45,100
things that are being paid for

4870
03:40:45,100 --> 03:40:46,100
in Measure O,

4871
03:40:46,100 --> 03:40:47,100
basically is the moral

4872
03:40:47,100 --> 03:40:48,100
of the story. Next slide. And I

4873
03:40:48,100 --> 03:40:51,100
think a couple things coming up

4874
03:40:51,100 --> 03:40:52,100
in the future that we wanted

4875
03:40:52,100 --> 03:40:53,100
to call out. We're really

4876
03:40:53,100 --> 03:40:55,100
excited about this. We talked a

4877
03:40:55,100 --> 03:40:57,100
little bit about external

4878
03:40:57,100 --> 03:40:58,100
Measure O funding requests

4879
03:40:58,100 --> 03:41:00,100
today. A couple that have come

4880
03:41:00,100 --> 03:41:01,100
through and I think a couple

4881
03:41:01,100 --> 03:41:02,100
of things coming up

4882
03:41:02,100 --> 03:41:04,100
in the future that I went

4883
03:41:04,100 --> 03:41:05,100
to call out,

4884
03:41:05,100 --> 03:41:06,100
we're really excited

4885
03:41:06,100 --> 03:41:08,100
about this. It has been decided

4886
03:41:08,100 --> 03:41:09,100
that we will not take kind of

4887
03:41:09,100 --> 03:41:11,100
One off funding request,

4888
03:41:11,100 --> 03:41:12,100
they have to go through a new

4889
03:41:12,100 --> 03:41:13,100
NOFA or public process. So I

4890
03:41:13,100 --> 03:41:14,100
know there's a lot

4891
03:41:14,100 --> 03:41:15,100
of community needs. You often

4892
03:41:15,100 --> 03:41:16,100
get emails from constituents or

4893
03:41:16,100 --> 03:41:18,100
other folks asking for Measure

4894
03:41:18,100 --> 03:41:19,100
O funding. It has to go

4895
03:41:19,100 --> 03:41:20,100
through a NOFA. And

4896
03:41:20,100 --> 03:41:21,100
to remind folks,

4897
03:41:21,100 --> 03:41:22,100
this board just gave out $10

4898
03:41:22,100 --> 03:41:24,100
million last month in Measure O

4899
03:41:24,100 --> 03:41:26,100
funds, all

4900
03:41:26,100 --> 03:41:27,100
to community partners,

4901
03:41:27,100 --> 03:41:28,100
cities and other groups.

4902
03:41:28,100 --> 03:41:29,100
That's probably the last time

4903
03:41:29,100 --> 03:41:30,100
we'll be able to give

4904
03:41:30,100 --> 03:41:31,100
out a big chunk of Measure O

4905
03:41:31,100 --> 03:41:32,100
funding, if any more Measure O

4906
03:41:32,100 --> 03:41:33,100
funding

4907
03:41:33,100 --> 03:41:34,100
through a NOFA process. So

4908
03:41:34,100 --> 03:41:35,100
unfortunately those external

4909
03:41:35,100 --> 03:41:36,100
requests at this point are

4910
03:41:36,100 --> 03:41:37,100
pretty much DOA. Unless we

4911
03:41:37,100 --> 03:41:38,100
start cutting other

4912
03:41:38,100 --> 03:41:39,100
programming, we are hoping

4913
03:41:39,100 --> 03:41:40,100
to bring sort of Measure O

4914
03:41:40,100 --> 03:41:41,100
on the road. We know there's a

4915
03:41:41,100 --> 03:41:42,100
lot of concerns

4916
03:41:42,100 --> 03:41:43,100
from your peers

4917
03:41:43,100 --> 03:41:44,100
on city councils. There's a lot

4918
03:41:44,100 --> 03:41:45,100
of confronts

4919
03:41:45,100 --> 03:41:46,100
from city managers. What are

4920
03:41:46,100 --> 03:41:47,100
you spending the money on?

4921
03:41:47,100 --> 03:41:48,100
Return to sender. You know,

4922
03:41:48,100 --> 03:41:49,100
what is the county doing

4923
03:41:49,100 --> 03:41:50,100
with all these funds? I hope to

4924
03:41:50,100 --> 03:41:51,100
have a presentation very

4925
03:41:51,100 --> 03:41:52,100
similar to today that really

4926
03:41:52,100 --> 03:41:53,100
explains those psychiatric

4927
03:41:53,100 --> 03:41:54,100
beds, the emergency system

4928
03:41:54,100 --> 03:41:55,100
of care, the crisis

4929
03:41:55,100 --> 03:41:57,100
residential, all those things

4930
03:41:57,100 --> 03:41:58,100
that a typical city council

4931
03:41:58,100 --> 03:42:00,100
member, city elected or just an

4932
03:42:00,100 --> 03:42:02,100
average constituent wouldn't

4933
03:42:02,100 --> 03:42:03,100
think about. But frankly, if we

4934
03:42:03,100 --> 03:42:04,100
lost tomorrow would be

4935
03:42:04,100 --> 03:42:05,100
absolutely devastating

4936
03:42:05,100 --> 03:42:06,100
to the county. So that is

4937
03:42:06,100 --> 03:42:08,100
coming up soon. Again, big

4938
03:42:08,100 --> 03:42:09,100
thank you to the ad hoc

4939
03:42:09,100 --> 03:42:10,100
for helping guide us

4940
03:42:10,100 --> 03:42:11,100
through that process. We kicked

4941
03:42:11,100 --> 03:42:12,100
that off in June with the

4942
03:42:12,100 --> 03:42:14,100
Mayors and Councils

4943
03:42:14,100 --> 03:42:15,100
association, which is great.

4944
03:42:15,100 --> 03:42:16,100
So we'll get a draft

4945
03:42:16,100 --> 03:42:17,100
to this board at some point

4946
03:42:17,100 --> 03:42:18,100
in time before that. And then

4947
03:42:18,100 --> 03:42:21,100
lastly, we are ultra focused

4948
03:42:21,100 --> 03:42:24,100
on Measure O renewal. And so

4949
03:42:24,100 --> 03:42:27,100
again, Measure O has the

4950
03:42:28,100 --> 03:42:29,100
possibility to be renewed. It

4951
03:42:29,100 --> 03:42:30,100
produces about $30 million. I

4952
03:42:30,100 --> 03:42:31,100
would say it makes a

4953
03:42:31,100 --> 03:42:33,100
significant impact,

4954
03:42:33,100 --> 03:42:35,100
a vital life or death impact

4955
03:42:35,100 --> 03:42:37,100
to hundreds of residents in

4956
03:42:37,100 --> 03:42:38,100
Sonoma County every single

4957
03:42:38,100 --> 03:42:39,100
year. So we are working

4958
03:42:39,100 --> 03:42:40,100
with the county

4959
03:42:40,100 --> 03:42:41,100
Administrator's office and

4960
03:42:41,100 --> 03:42:42,100
folks to start prepping for

4961
03:42:42,100 --> 03:42:43,100
that renewal campaign and

4962
03:42:43,100 --> 03:42:45,100
getting all those ducks

4963
03:42:45,100 --> 03:42:46,100
in a row. We've got a couple

4964
03:42:46,100 --> 03:42:47,100
years out, but that is

4965
03:42:47,100 --> 03:42:48,100
something we certainly intend

4966
03:42:48,100 --> 03:42:49,100
to put back on the ballot. We

4967
03:42:49,100 --> 03:42:50,100
hope the voters will grace us

4968
03:42:50,100 --> 03:42:51,100
again

4969
03:42:51,100 --> 03:42:52,100
with their vote and continue

4970
03:42:52,100 --> 03:42:53,100
to support this vital benefit.

4971
03:42:53,100 --> 03:42:55,100
But that is

4972
03:42:55,100 --> 03:42:56,100
on our radars as well. And then

4973
03:42:56,100 --> 03:42:57,100
last but not least,

4974
03:42:57,100 --> 03:42:58,100
I just wanted to thank,

4975
03:42:58,100 --> 03:42:59,100
thank our Measure O oversight

4976
03:42:59,100 --> 03:43:00,100
committee. So Measure O is

4977
03:43:00,100 --> 03:43:01,100
required to have an oversight

4978
03:43:01,100 --> 03:43:03,100
committee that reviews every

4979
03:43:03,100 --> 03:43:04,100
single cent

4980
03:43:04,100 --> 03:43:05,100
of expenditure that Measure O

4981
03:43:05,100 --> 03:43:07,100
expends and makes sure it

4982
03:43:07,100 --> 03:43:08,100
matches the guidelines

4983
03:43:08,100 --> 03:43:10,100
in the voter approved measure.

4984
03:43:10,100 --> 03:43:11,100
We've got Mr. Fear

4985
03:43:11,100 --> 03:43:12,100
on here today. Who sits

4986
03:43:12,100 --> 03:43:13,100
on that,

4987
03:43:13,100 --> 03:43:15,100
that oversight committee.

4988
03:43:15,100 --> 03:43:16,100
Thank you, Gregory, for that,

4989
03:43:16,100 --> 03:43:18,100
your service. But I want to

4990
03:43:18,100 --> 03:43:19,100
assure the taxpayers we are

4991
03:43:19,100 --> 03:43:20,100
spending your money wisely.

4992
03:43:20,100 --> 03:43:21,100
And there's literally a group

4993
03:43:21,100 --> 03:43:22,100
of appointed officials

4994
03:43:22,100 --> 03:43:23,100
literally looking

4995
03:43:23,100 --> 03:43:24,100
at every single expenditure to

4996
03:43:24,100 --> 03:43:25,100
make sure we're spending money,

4997
03:43:25,100 --> 03:43:26,100
those dollars wisely. And then

4998
03:43:26,100 --> 03:43:27,100
lastly, the ad hoc Supervisor

4999
03:43:27,100 --> 03:43:28,100
Gore and Supervisor Coursey,

5000
03:43:28,100 --> 03:43:29,100
you guys have been invaluable

5001
03:43:29,100 --> 03:43:30,100
at providing us guidance and

5002
03:43:30,100 --> 03:43:31,100
input and feedback and kind

5003
03:43:31,100 --> 03:43:32,100
of helping push us through this

5004
03:43:32,100 --> 03:43:33,100
process. I know you're fielding

5005
03:43:33,100 --> 03:43:34,100
a lot of requests

5006
03:43:34,100 --> 03:43:36,100
in other areas, but we really

5007
03:43:36,100 --> 03:43:38,100
appreciate your support. So

5008
03:43:38,100 --> 03:43:39,100
with that, I think I am pretty

5009
03:43:39,100 --> 03:43:41,100
much wrapped up. I promised I'd

5010
03:43:41,100 --> 03:43:42,100
be expeditious,

5011
03:43:42,100 --> 03:43:43,100
and I wasn't. I apologize.

5012
03:43:43,100 --> 03:43:44,100
But our last slide here,

5013
03:43:44,100 --> 03:43:45,100
we've got questions,

5014
03:43:45,100 --> 03:43:48,601
and I ultimately just want to

5015
03:43:49,100 --> 03:43:50,100
thank the voters and the

5016
03:43:50,100 --> 03:43:52,401
taxpayers of Sonoma County.

5017
03:43:53,100 --> 03:43:54,100
Without their support,

5018
03:43:54,100 --> 03:43:55,100
we would not be able

5019
03:43:55,100 --> 03:43:56,100
to serve thousands of people.

5020
03:43:56,100 --> 03:43:58,100
And it is providing some of the

5021
03:43:58,100 --> 03:44:00,100
most intensive needed supports

5022
03:44:00,100 --> 03:44:01,100
to people in Sonoma County that

5023
03:44:01,100 --> 03:44:03,100
really, really need it. So. So

5024
03:44:03,100 --> 03:44:04,100
thank you to them. And that

5025
03:44:04,100 --> 03:44:06,100
closes my presentation.

5026
03:44:07,100 --> 03:44:08,100
>> Thank you so much. And

5027
03:44:08,100 --> 03:44:09,100
with that, we will go

5028
03:44:09,100 --> 03:44:11,100
to public comment.

5029
03:44:17,100 --> 03:44:18,100
>> Chair Hermosillo and members

5030
03:44:18,100 --> 03:44:19,100
of the board, I'm Gregory

5031
03:44:19,100 --> 03:44:20,100
Ferrin, and as Director

5032
03:44:20,100 --> 03:44:22,100
Sullivan indicated, I serve on,

5033
03:44:22,100 --> 03:44:23,100
on your behalf on the

5034
03:44:23,100 --> 03:44:25,100
Oversight Committee. There's

5035
03:44:25,100 --> 03:44:26,100
absolutely nothing that the

5036
03:44:26,100 --> 03:44:28,100
Oversight Committee would

5037
03:44:28,100 --> 03:44:30,100
disagree with what Director

5038
03:44:30,100 --> 03:44:32,100
Sullivan indicated. We've been

5039
03:44:32,100 --> 03:44:33,100
totally briefed,

5040
03:44:33,100 --> 03:44:35,100
we've been totally involved,

5041
03:44:35,100 --> 03:44:37,100
and we've done our best to make

5042
03:44:37,100 --> 03:44:39,100
sure that the voters get what

5043
03:44:39,100 --> 03:44:41,100
they expected and where we have

5044
03:44:41,100 --> 03:44:43,100
to make changes,

5045
03:44:43,100 --> 03:44:45,100
we support that. If there's any

5046
03:44:45,100 --> 03:44:47,100
one particular area that I

5047
03:44:47,100 --> 03:44:49,100
personally still have some

5048
03:44:49,100 --> 03:44:51,100
qualms about,

5049
03:44:51,100 --> 03:44:52,100
which is substance use. But I

5050
03:44:52,100 --> 03:44:54,100
know that the department's

5051
03:44:54,100 --> 03:44:55,100
working real hard

5052
03:44:55,100 --> 03:44:56,100
on reinstating that services,

5053
03:44:56,100 --> 03:44:59,100
those services to our county.

5054
03:44:59,100 --> 03:45:01,100
I'm really frightened that we

5055
03:45:01,100 --> 03:45:02,100
aren't going to be able

5056
03:45:02,100 --> 03:45:03,100
to tell a story well enough

5057
03:45:03,100 --> 03:45:05,100
to the public about the value

5058
03:45:05,100 --> 03:45:07,100
of this pot. It is, as

5059
03:45:07,100 --> 03:45:09,100
Director Sullivan indicated,

5060
03:45:10,100 --> 03:45:13,100
the only really saving grace

5061
03:45:14,100 --> 03:45:16,100
that I can see. It was

5062
03:45:16,100 --> 03:45:18,100
mentioned earlier that this is

5063
03:45:18,100 --> 03:45:20,100
magic. If this is magic,

5064
03:45:20,100 --> 03:45:22,100
Director Sullivan and his staff

5065
03:45:22,100 --> 03:45:24,100
is the wizard of O. And they

5066
03:45:24,100 --> 03:45:26,100
are helping keep this system

5067
03:45:26,100 --> 03:45:29,100
together. So I urge you

5068
03:45:29,100 --> 03:45:32,100
to make the hard decisions on

5069
03:45:32,100 --> 03:45:34,100
the recommendations that are

5070
03:45:34,100 --> 03:45:36,100
made and keep this and the

5071
03:45:36,100 --> 03:45:38,100
entire system alive.

5072
03:45:44,100 --> 03:45:45,100
>> Thank you. Seeing another,

5073
03:45:45,100 --> 03:45:47,100
Supervisor Gore.

5074
03:45:50,100 --> 03:45:51,100
>> I really appreciate being on

5075
03:45:51,100 --> 03:45:53,100
the ad hoc. I'm even more

5076
03:45:53,100 --> 03:45:55,100
appreciative that we're here

5077
03:45:55,100 --> 03:45:56,100
with the rest of the board

5078
03:45:56,100 --> 03:45:57,100
members weighing in.

5079
03:45:57,100 --> 03:45:59,401
Supervisor Coursey, it's ironic

5080
03:46:00,100 --> 03:46:01,100
because we asked

5081
03:46:01,100 --> 03:46:02,100
for this ad hoc

5082
03:46:02,100 --> 03:46:04,100
at a time when we had a surplus

5083
03:46:04,100 --> 03:46:06,100
in Measure O unspent dollars,

5084
03:46:06,100 --> 03:46:08,100
and that was the impetus

5085
03:46:08,100 --> 03:46:09,100
for the creation

5086
03:46:09,100 --> 03:46:11,100
of the ad hoc was to see if

5087
03:46:11,100 --> 03:46:12,100
that money was being accruing

5088
03:46:12,100 --> 03:46:15,100
too much or if it was

5089
03:46:15,100 --> 03:46:16,100
programmatic or if it was going

5090
03:46:16,100 --> 03:46:17,100
to be. One time we were having

5091
03:46:17,100 --> 03:46:19,100
piecemeal items come back and

5092
03:46:19,100 --> 03:46:21,100
being funded and so couldn't be

5093
03:46:21,100 --> 03:46:22,100
a different state

5094
03:46:22,100 --> 03:46:25,100
of play that once we sat down.

5095
03:46:25,100 --> 03:46:26,100
It's really about a couple

5096
03:46:26,100 --> 03:46:27,100
different things. Things one

5097
03:46:27,100 --> 03:46:29,100
about the renewal of Measure O

5098
03:46:29,100 --> 03:46:30,100
and that needing to come back

5099
03:46:30,100 --> 03:46:34,100
to the board. I want to remind

5100
03:46:34,100 --> 03:46:35,100
the board that whether that

5101
03:46:35,100 --> 03:46:38,100
comes back as a request RFP

5102
03:46:38,100 --> 03:46:39,100
to go out

5103
03:46:39,100 --> 03:46:41,100
for consultants looks

5104
03:46:41,100 --> 03:46:42,100
like that. We're trying

5105
03:46:42,100 --> 03:46:43,100
to decide if that with county

5106
03:46:43,100 --> 03:46:44,100
administrator and others,

5107
03:46:44,100 --> 03:46:46,100
if that comes back as a request

5108
03:46:46,100 --> 03:46:47,100
for this year's contingencies

5109
03:46:47,100 --> 03:46:49,100
or next year's budget.

5110
03:46:49,100 --> 03:46:50,100
But I just want the board to

5111
03:46:50,100 --> 03:46:51,100
know that that's happening and

5112
03:46:51,100 --> 03:46:53,100
engage with the county

5113
03:46:53,100 --> 03:46:54,100
administrator and others if you

5114
03:46:54,100 --> 03:46:56,100
have serious concerns. We don't

5115
03:46:56,100 --> 03:46:57,100
see other ways to be able

5116
03:46:57,100 --> 03:46:58,100
to do that. So I just wanted to

5117
03:46:58,100 --> 03:47:00,100
put that forth and thank you

5118
03:47:00,100 --> 03:47:01,100
all for your efforts. You did a

5119
03:47:01,100 --> 03:47:02,100
lot of research and background

5120
03:47:02,100 --> 03:47:04,100
on how to put together a look

5121
03:47:04,100 --> 03:47:07,100
at a renewal. And I think the

5122
03:47:07,100 --> 03:47:09,100
first part

5123
03:47:10,100 --> 03:47:11,100
of it is that we absolutely

5124
03:47:11,100 --> 03:47:14,100
have to go and tell the real

5125
03:47:14,100 --> 03:47:15,100
stories because just

5126
03:47:15,100 --> 03:47:17,100
like you have today,

5127
03:47:17,100 --> 03:47:19,100
because the renewal of Measure

5128
03:47:19,100 --> 03:47:21,100
O is

5129
03:47:21,100 --> 03:47:22,100
of the utmost importance for.

5130
03:47:22,100 --> 03:47:24,100
For our safety net and our

5131
03:47:24,100 --> 03:47:25,100
behavioral health net and our

5132
03:47:25,100 --> 03:47:28,100
homeless services. So it did

5133
03:47:28,100 --> 03:47:31,100
well last time it's delivered

5134
03:47:32,100 --> 03:47:34,100
and it needs to be renewed. If

5135
03:47:34,100 --> 03:47:36,100
it doesn't, we have

5136
03:47:36,100 --> 03:47:38,100
to be very clear, not

5137
03:47:38,100 --> 03:47:40,100
in a way that is just throwing

5138
03:47:40,100 --> 03:47:41,100
around fear to people, but that

5139
03:47:41,100 --> 03:47:43,100
the behavioral health system

5140
03:47:43,100 --> 03:47:45,100
will buckle. Many other

5141
03:47:45,100 --> 03:47:47,100
counties that do not have

5142
03:47:47,100 --> 03:47:48,100
Measure O, I mean, how many

5143
03:47:48,100 --> 03:47:50,100
counties have a similar measure

5144
03:47:50,100 --> 03:47:51,100
as us?

5145
03:47:51,100 --> 03:47:52,100
>> We're pretty rare. There's a

5146
03:47:52,100 --> 03:47:53,100
few homeless measures

5147
03:47:53,100 --> 03:47:55,100
out there,

5148
03:47:55,100 --> 03:47:56,100
but this is pretty much it for

5149
03:47:56,100 --> 03:47:57,100
purely behavioral health.

5150
03:47:57,100 --> 03:47:58,100
>> There's some that have

5151
03:47:58,100 --> 03:47:59,100
housing, LA, I mean,

5152
03:47:59,100 --> 03:48:00,100
bigger places that vote

5153
03:48:00,100 --> 03:48:01,100
for things too. There's nobody

5154
03:48:01,100 --> 03:48:02,100
of our commensurate size that

5155
03:48:02,100 --> 03:48:03,100
has something

5156
03:48:03,100 --> 03:48:05,100
like this that's allowed

5157
03:48:05,100 --> 03:48:06,100
to deal with the system. One

5158
03:48:06,100 --> 03:48:07,100
of the reasons that we needed

5159
03:48:07,100 --> 03:48:08,100
Measure O was to fill gaps

5160
03:48:08,100 --> 03:48:10,401
from two different sides

5161
03:48:11,100 --> 03:48:13,100
of the world. One was just gaps

5162
03:48:13,100 --> 03:48:14,100
that we wanted that we

5163
03:48:14,100 --> 03:48:16,100
endeavored to move into MST and

5164
03:48:16,100 --> 03:48:17,100
other things that we did a full

5165
03:48:17,100 --> 03:48:19,100
volition. The other reason that

5166
03:48:19,100 --> 03:48:21,401
we had some significant

5167
03:48:23,100 --> 03:48:25,100
failures and internal controls

5168
03:48:25,100 --> 03:48:27,100
that we had to catch up

5169
03:48:27,100 --> 03:48:28,100
on compliance. First question

5170
03:48:28,100 --> 03:48:29,100
for you is how are we

5171
03:48:29,100 --> 03:48:31,100
on that compliance side

5172
03:48:31,100 --> 03:48:32,100
of things

5173
03:48:32,100 --> 03:48:33,100
with our internal billables?

5174
03:48:33,100 --> 03:48:34,100
Because just as much as we have

5175
03:48:34,100 --> 03:48:37,100
to look at other programs like

5176
03:48:37,100 --> 03:48:38,100
the SAFE program and others,

5177
03:48:38,100 --> 03:48:40,100
they have to spend more money

5178
03:48:40,100 --> 03:48:43,601
to get clinicians in it's hard

5179
03:48:44,100 --> 03:48:45,100
to hire those kind

5180
03:48:45,100 --> 03:48:47,100
of individuals,

5181
03:48:47,100 --> 03:48:48,100
but if you don't, per instance,

5182
03:48:48,100 --> 03:48:49,100
$4,500 per individual,

5183
03:48:49,100 --> 03:48:50,100
that's millions and millions

5184
03:48:50,100 --> 03:48:52,100
of dollars. And so that's the

5185
03:48:52,100 --> 03:48:54,100
goal. My first question is,

5186
03:48:54,100 --> 03:48:56,100
are we able to look at the

5187
03:48:56,100 --> 03:48:57,100
public and say that we have the

5188
03:48:57,100 --> 03:48:59,100
issues that came up when I

5189
03:48:59,100 --> 03:49:00,100
think it was Director Robinson

5190
03:49:00,100 --> 03:49:02,100
and we were doing the review of

5191
03:49:02,100 --> 03:49:03,100
all our contracts and how we

5192
03:49:03,100 --> 03:49:05,100
had low rates

5193
03:49:05,100 --> 03:49:06,100
of reimbursements compared

5194
03:49:06,100 --> 03:49:07,100
to what we needed. Where are we

5195
03:49:07,100 --> 03:49:09,100
internally right now?

5196
03:49:09,100 --> 03:49:10,100
>> Yeah, I'm very happy

5197
03:49:10,100 --> 03:49:11,100
to report that we are 100%

5198
03:49:11,100 --> 03:49:12,100
in compliance on the behavioral

5199
03:49:12,100 --> 03:49:13,100
health side or the mental

5200
03:49:13,100 --> 03:49:14,100
health side

5201
03:49:14,100 --> 03:49:15,100
of behavioral health. So we are

5202
03:49:15,100 --> 03:49:16,100
actually completely caught up

5203
03:49:16,100 --> 03:49:17,100
on our Medi Cal billings

5204
03:49:17,100 --> 03:49:18,100
on the mental health side. We

5205
03:49:18,100 --> 03:49:20,100
are about four months back

5206
03:49:20,100 --> 03:49:22,100
on the substance use side of

5207
03:49:22,100 --> 03:49:23,100
the house and we're making

5208
03:49:23,100 --> 03:49:24,100
progress every single day. So

5209
03:49:24,100 --> 03:49:25,100
we've made a tremendous amount

5210
03:49:25,100 --> 03:49:26,100
of progress in that space.

5211
03:49:26,100 --> 03:49:28,100
Secondarily, we have issued

5212
03:49:28,100 --> 03:49:29,100
behavioral health contracts

5213
03:49:29,100 --> 03:49:30,100
for the first time

5214
03:49:30,100 --> 03:49:31,100
in probably a decade

5215
03:49:31,100 --> 03:49:32,100
on time this year for our

5216
03:49:32,100 --> 03:49:33,100
providers so they can get paid

5217
03:49:33,100 --> 03:49:35,100
on time. And so

5218
03:49:35,100 --> 03:49:36,100
over the last nine or 10

5219
03:49:36,100 --> 03:49:37,100
months,

5220
03:49:37,100 --> 03:49:38,100
we have made a tremendous

5221
03:49:38,100 --> 03:49:39,100
amount of progress

5222
03:49:39,100 --> 03:49:40,100
in that space.

5223
03:49:40,100 --> 03:49:41,100
>> Well, I would encourage that

5224
03:49:41,100 --> 03:49:42,100
to be a part of our messaging

5225
03:49:42,100 --> 03:49:43,100
because you can't have the

5226
03:49:43,100 --> 03:49:44,100
sense be out there that

5227
03:49:44,100 --> 03:49:46,100
government is failing. And

5228
03:49:46,100 --> 03:49:47,100
that's why we're asking people

5229
03:49:47,100 --> 03:49:49,100
to extend the budget. We had

5230
03:49:49,100 --> 03:49:50,100
done the work prior the

5231
03:49:50,100 --> 03:49:52,100
recontracting the contract

5232
03:49:53,100 --> 03:49:54,100
with Harvard, I think, and

5233
03:49:54,100 --> 03:49:55,100
others, and all

5234
03:49:55,100 --> 03:49:56,100
of the analysis,

5235
03:49:56,100 --> 03:49:57,100
and restructured all

5236
03:49:57,100 --> 03:49:58,100
of our agreements.

5237
03:49:58,100 --> 03:49:59,100
But that needs to be a part

5238
03:49:59,100 --> 03:50:00,100
of the discussion. The second

5239
03:50:00,100 --> 03:50:02,100
thing is, I won't belabor the

5240
03:50:02,100 --> 03:50:03,100
things that were brought up

5241
03:50:03,100 --> 03:50:05,100
by my colleagues,

5242
03:50:05,100 --> 03:50:07,100
but I'll just speak direct

5243
03:50:07,100 --> 03:50:08,100
to them that we have a request

5244
03:50:08,100 --> 03:50:10,100
from Santa Rosa, very public

5245
03:50:10,100 --> 03:50:12,100
request,

5246
03:50:12,100 --> 03:50:13,100
that maybe you can state

5247
03:50:13,100 --> 03:50:15,100
to me if this is different,

5248
03:50:15,100 --> 03:50:16,100
but Santa Rosa City Schools

5249
03:50:16,100 --> 03:50:18,100
already receives, as a part of

5250
03:50:18,100 --> 03:50:19,100
those jurisdictions listed

5251
03:50:19,100 --> 03:50:21,100
funding for cape. What Santa

5252
03:50:21,100 --> 03:50:22,100
Rosa is asking us to do is

5253
03:50:22,100 --> 03:50:25,100
to fund the enhanced programs,

5254
03:50:25,100 --> 03:50:26,100
and I applaud them for that.

5255
03:50:26,100 --> 03:50:28,100
But the enhanced program

5256
03:50:28,100 --> 03:50:30,100
programs that they went

5257
03:50:30,100 --> 03:50:31,100
into as a part of a good budget

5258
03:50:31,100 --> 03:50:33,100
cycle and ARPA and other things

5259
03:50:33,100 --> 03:50:34,100
like that. Is that correct?

5260
03:50:34,100 --> 03:50:35,100
>> Yeah, they're asking

5261
03:50:35,100 --> 03:50:36,100
for funding for their core

5262
03:50:36,100 --> 03:50:38,100
behavioral health support,

5263
03:50:38,100 --> 03:50:39,100
kind of your basic run

5264
03:50:39,100 --> 03:50:40,100
of the mill programs,

5265
03:50:40,100 --> 03:50:41,100
which are wonderful,

5266
03:50:41,100 --> 03:50:42,100
amazing programs. But again, it

5267
03:50:42,100 --> 03:50:43,100
is not it. CAPE is not that.

5268
03:50:43,100 --> 03:50:45,100
>> And we, you know,

5269
03:50:45,100 --> 03:50:47,100
applaud them for that. But.

5270
03:50:47,100 --> 03:50:48,100
But one jurisdiction,

5271
03:50:48,100 --> 03:50:50,100
even if it's the largest,

5272
03:50:50,100 --> 03:50:51,100
asking for millions of dollars

5273
03:50:51,100 --> 03:50:53,100
to fund something above and

5274
03:50:53,100 --> 03:50:55,100
beyond what the other, what the

5275
03:50:55,100 --> 03:50:57,100
other jurisdictions are already

5276
03:50:57,100 --> 03:50:59,401
receiving. They have financial

5277
03:51:01,100 --> 03:51:02,100
woes. But I don't want that

5278
03:51:02,100 --> 03:51:03,100
to get lost

5279
03:51:03,100 --> 03:51:05,100
in the politics and

5280
03:51:05,100 --> 03:51:06,100
in the messaging out there

5281
03:51:06,100 --> 03:51:07,100
to be very clear that, you

5282
03:51:07,100 --> 03:51:08,100
know, if we would do that,

5283
03:51:08,100 --> 03:51:10,100
then every jurisdiction, all of

5284
03:51:10,100 --> 03:51:11,100
the school districts

5285
03:51:11,100 --> 03:51:12,100
throughout,

5286
03:51:12,100 --> 03:51:14,100
we'd be basically committing

5287
03:51:14,100 --> 03:51:15,100
to that because all

5288
03:51:15,100 --> 03:51:16,100
of us would be saying, God, the

5289
03:51:16,100 --> 03:51:17,100
rural, you know, Cloverdale

5290
03:51:17,100 --> 03:51:19,401
for me, Geyserville school

5291
03:51:20,100 --> 03:51:21,100
district. You know,

5292
03:51:21,100 --> 03:51:22,100
if you manage your. If you

5293
03:51:22,100 --> 03:51:23,100
manage your budgets correctly,

5294
03:51:23,100 --> 03:51:24,100
if you have the behavioral

5295
03:51:24,100 --> 03:51:25,100
health systems,

5296
03:51:25,100 --> 03:51:26,100
I know the size changes it,

5297
03:51:26,100 --> 03:51:28,100
but I just want to hear

5298
03:51:28,100 --> 03:51:29,100
from my colleagues, too,

5299
03:51:29,100 --> 03:51:30,100
because I think we need

5300
03:51:30,100 --> 03:51:31,100
to send you to be able

5301
03:51:31,100 --> 03:51:32,100
to go have these conversations,

5302
03:51:32,100 --> 03:51:33,100
knowing what the board has

5303
03:51:33,100 --> 03:51:35,100
said. Right. This might not be

5304
03:51:35,100 --> 03:51:38,100
policy, but we are. But you're

5305
03:51:38,100 --> 03:51:40,100
in a position right now where

5306
03:51:40,100 --> 03:51:41,100
all

5307
03:51:41,100 --> 03:51:42,100
of you are going and

5308
03:51:42,100 --> 03:51:43,100
negotiating with people who are

5309
03:51:43,100 --> 03:51:45,100
making requests to us,

5310
03:51:45,100 --> 03:51:46,100
and you have to be able

5311
03:51:46,100 --> 03:51:48,100
to have our backing to say

5312
03:51:48,100 --> 03:51:49,100
these are the lines you need

5313
03:51:49,100 --> 03:51:50,100
to hold because

5314
03:51:50,100 --> 03:51:52,100
of the programmatic issue. So

5315
03:51:52,100 --> 03:51:53,100
I'll just say the same thing.

5316
03:51:53,100 --> 03:51:55,100
For safe and on the.

5317
03:51:55,100 --> 03:51:57,100
In response side is, first and

5318
03:51:57,100 --> 03:51:58,100
foremost,

5319
03:51:58,100 --> 03:52:00,100
I know you've had conversations

5320
03:52:00,100 --> 03:52:02,100
with them about being able

5321
03:52:02,100 --> 03:52:05,100
to bill Medi Cal $4,500 per

5322
03:52:08,100 --> 03:52:11,100
instance. You know, but, you

5323
03:52:12,100 --> 03:52:14,100
know, there's no way that we

5324
03:52:14,100 --> 03:52:15,100
can continue services. If they

5325
03:52:15,100 --> 03:52:17,100
want to make a request for

5326
03:52:17,100 --> 03:52:19,100
homeless outreach management,

5327
03:52:19,100 --> 03:52:21,100
then that's different. That is

5328
03:52:21,100 --> 03:52:23,100
not included in the MST or the

5329
03:52:23,100 --> 03:52:25,100
cahoots program or any of the

5330
03:52:25,100 --> 03:52:27,100
other things that we did.

5331
03:52:27,100 --> 03:52:28,100
Right. I just. I think that has

5332
03:52:28,100 --> 03:52:29,100
to be clear. And I want

5333
03:52:29,100 --> 03:52:31,100
to know what you need

5334
03:52:31,100 --> 03:52:33,100
from us as well. If it's a

5335
03:52:33,100 --> 03:52:34,100
letter from the board,

5336
03:52:34,100 --> 03:52:35,100
if it's a letter

5337
03:52:35,100 --> 03:52:36,100
from the chair or all

5338
03:52:36,100 --> 03:52:37,100
of us saying,

5339
03:52:37,100 --> 03:52:38,100
we had this conversation.

5340
03:52:38,100 --> 03:52:39,100
Here's a few things that you

5341
03:52:39,100 --> 03:52:41,100
are being given in terms

5342
03:52:41,100 --> 03:52:43,100
of future discussions. Because

5343
03:52:43,100 --> 03:52:44,100
the goal here is not to get

5344
03:52:44,100 --> 03:52:45,100
into a fighting match over

5345
03:52:45,100 --> 03:52:48,100
people not supporting measure O

5346
03:52:48,100 --> 03:52:50,100
because we're not able to get

5347
03:52:50,100 --> 03:52:52,100
them the direct contracts that

5348
03:52:52,100 --> 03:52:53,100
they need to do

5349
03:52:53,100 --> 03:52:55,100
in their specific cities. The

5350
03:52:55,100 --> 03:52:56,100
goal is for us to say,

5351
03:52:56,100 --> 03:52:58,100
to be able to move this county

5352
03:52:58,100 --> 03:53:00,100
forward or not retract. We need

5353
03:53:00,100 --> 03:53:03,601
to have these systems. So I

5354
03:53:05,100 --> 03:53:06,100
would love for you to have

5355
03:53:06,100 --> 03:53:07,100
something that as a formal

5356
03:53:07,100 --> 03:53:10,601
mention from the board and I

5357
03:53:12,100 --> 03:53:13,100
would propose that we. This

5358
03:53:13,100 --> 03:53:14,100
doesn't have

5359
03:53:14,100 --> 03:53:15,100
to be hard language,

5360
03:53:15,100 --> 03:53:16,100
but this is something like,

5361
03:53:16,100 --> 03:53:17,100
you know,

5362
03:53:17,100 --> 03:53:18,100
the board had a hearing with

5363
03:53:18,100 --> 03:53:19,100
Major O. We know

5364
03:53:19,100 --> 03:53:20,100
of the city's questions. We

5365
03:53:20,100 --> 03:53:21,100
know of the school. Send it

5366
03:53:21,100 --> 03:53:22,100
to the school districts,

5367
03:53:22,100 --> 03:53:23,100
your requests. There was a

5368
03:53:23,100 --> 03:53:24,100
couple

5369
03:53:24,100 --> 03:53:25,100
of key things that came up

5370
03:53:25,100 --> 03:53:26,100
during this discussion that

5371
03:53:26,100 --> 03:53:27,100
included, you know,

5372
03:53:27,100 --> 03:53:28,100
requests that are coming in

5373
03:53:28,100 --> 03:53:30,100
from individual jurisdictions.

5374
03:53:30,100 --> 03:53:31,100
We can't, you know, I mean,

5375
03:53:31,100 --> 03:53:32,100
like three pillars that come

5376
03:53:32,100 --> 03:53:34,100
out and whether the chair wants

5377
03:53:34,100 --> 03:53:36,100
to sign that on behalf

5378
03:53:36,100 --> 03:53:38,100
of the board or all

5379
03:53:38,100 --> 03:53:39,100
of us sign it. I think you have

5380
03:53:39,100 --> 03:53:40,100
to be going in

5381
03:53:40,100 --> 03:53:42,100
with a picture. So I'm really

5382
03:53:42,100 --> 03:53:44,100
interested in my colleagues

5383
03:53:44,100 --> 03:53:45,100
about some

5384
03:53:45,100 --> 03:53:46,100
of those things because we want

5385
03:53:46,100 --> 03:53:47,100
to embrace the cities and the

5386
03:53:47,100 --> 03:53:48,100
schools as the future

5387
03:53:48,100 --> 03:53:49,100
of this, but it can't be

5388
03:53:49,100 --> 03:53:52,100
about just trying to contain

5389
03:53:52,100 --> 03:53:54,100
their own individual things.

5390
03:53:54,100 --> 03:53:55,100
And then I think

5391
03:53:55,100 --> 03:53:57,100
in that letter, too, it has

5392
03:53:57,100 --> 03:53:58,100
to be very clear as well,

5393
03:53:58,100 --> 03:54:00,100
like whether it's a letter

5394
03:54:00,100 --> 03:54:01,100
to our partners or it's a

5395
03:54:01,100 --> 03:54:02,100
letter to the public. If the

5396
03:54:02,100 --> 03:54:05,100
budget goes the way it does,

5397
03:54:05,100 --> 03:54:07,100
the full programming

5398
03:54:08,100 --> 03:54:11,100
for MST cahoots models is

5399
03:54:11,100 --> 03:54:12,100
under extreme duress. And I

5400
03:54:12,100 --> 03:54:14,401
just think we have

5401
03:54:15,100 --> 03:54:17,100
to be clear. While not. I mean,

5402
03:54:17,100 --> 03:54:21,201
this is not the sky is falling.

5403
03:54:25,100 --> 03:54:27,100
This is real. So I'd love your

5404
03:54:27,100 --> 03:54:28,100
responses on that or I'd love

5405
03:54:28,100 --> 03:54:29,100
my colleagues weigh in,

5406
03:54:29,100 --> 03:54:31,100
because I just want

5407
03:54:31,100 --> 03:54:32,100
to respectfully engage

5408
03:54:32,100 --> 03:54:33,100
with the cities.

5409
03:54:33,100 --> 03:54:34,100
But I don't want you trying

5410
03:54:34,100 --> 03:54:36,100
to go out, all of you, and make

5411
03:54:36,100 --> 03:54:37,100
them happy or the ad hoc

5412
03:54:37,100 --> 03:54:38,100
meeting with them individually.

5413
03:54:38,100 --> 03:54:39,100
I don't think we can play

5414
03:54:39,100 --> 03:54:40,100
politics. I think we have

5415
03:54:40,100 --> 03:54:42,100
to set policy and say,

5416
03:54:42,100 --> 03:54:44,100
find a way to work together.

5417
03:54:44,100 --> 03:54:46,100
Thank you.

5418
03:54:46,100 --> 03:54:47,100
>> Thank you, Vice Chair

5419
03:54:47,100 --> 03:54:49,100
Coursey.

5420
03:54:50,100 --> 03:54:51,100
>> Thanks. Seems like we've

5421
03:54:51,100 --> 03:54:52,100
talked

5422
03:54:52,100 --> 03:54:53,100
about this a lot lately, and,

5423
03:54:53,100 --> 03:54:56,100
you know, I agree with

5424
03:54:56,100 --> 03:54:57,100
everything my colleagues have

5425
03:54:57,100 --> 03:54:59,100
been saying. I think the tone

5426
03:54:59,100 --> 03:55:02,100
and tenor of your presentation

5427
03:55:02,100 --> 03:55:03,100
is exactly what we need

5428
03:55:03,100 --> 03:55:05,100
to be saying

5429
03:55:05,100 --> 03:55:07,100
to the community. There is a

5430
03:55:07,100 --> 03:55:09,100
sense of urgency here. We are

5431
03:55:09,100 --> 03:55:12,100
doing what we can with

5432
03:55:12,100 --> 03:55:14,100
Measure O. We're doing what we

5433
03:55:14,100 --> 03:55:16,100
were asked to do

5434
03:55:16,100 --> 03:55:19,100
by the community with Measure

5435
03:55:22,100 --> 03:55:24,100
O. But there are limits

5436
03:55:24,100 --> 03:55:25,100
to it. This is. This is not

5437
03:55:25,100 --> 03:55:29,100
the. This is not ARPA. It's not

5438
03:55:29,100 --> 03:55:31,100
the Sonoma County Rescue Plan

5439
03:55:31,100 --> 03:55:34,601
Act. It has its parameters and

5440
03:55:41,100 --> 03:55:42,100
it also has a limit to it.

5441
03:55:42,100 --> 03:55:43,100
So, you know, we have to kind

5442
03:55:43,100 --> 03:55:45,100
of walk and chew gum

5443
03:55:45,100 --> 03:55:47,100
at the time. Same. Same time

5444
03:55:47,100 --> 03:55:49,100
right now. Keep the pedal

5445
03:55:49,100 --> 03:55:50,100
to the metal

5446
03:55:50,100 --> 03:55:51,100
with how we're doing this

5447
03:55:51,100 --> 03:55:52,100
but understand that we're going

5448
03:55:52,100 --> 03:55:54,100
to run out of gas

5449
03:55:54,100 --> 03:55:55,100
in a few years and we have

5450
03:55:55,100 --> 03:55:57,100
to find a gas station or figure

5451
03:55:57,100 --> 03:55:58,100
out how that's going to work

5452
03:55:58,100 --> 03:56:01,100
going forward. I think it's

5453
03:56:01,100 --> 03:56:03,100
incumbent on all of us

5454
03:56:03,100 --> 03:56:05,100
to tell this story

5455
03:56:05,100 --> 03:56:08,100
to our constituents, to the

5456
03:56:08,100 --> 03:56:11,601
community. I'm not sure that a

5457
03:56:13,100 --> 03:56:15,100
slideshow with pie charts and

5458
03:56:15,100 --> 03:56:17,100
spreadsheets is the best way.

5459
03:56:17,100 --> 03:56:20,601
It's one way, but we need

5460
03:56:21,100 --> 03:56:24,601
to also have a narrative way

5461
03:56:25,100 --> 03:56:26,100
to do this so we could Talk

5462
03:56:26,100 --> 03:56:27,100
to people so we can talk

5463
03:56:27,100 --> 03:56:29,100
to groups,

5464
03:56:29,100 --> 03:56:30,100
but also individuals. We need

5465
03:56:30,100 --> 03:56:32,100
an elevator speech. We need a

5466
03:56:32,100 --> 03:56:34,100
700-word op ed. We need an

5467
03:56:34,100 --> 03:56:36,100
understanding of all

5468
03:56:38,100 --> 03:56:40,401
of us and frankly,

5469
03:56:41,100 --> 03:56:43,100
an agreement with all

5470
03:56:43,100 --> 03:56:44,100
of us as Supervisor Gore is

5471
03:56:44,100 --> 03:56:46,100
talking about,

5472
03:56:48,100 --> 03:56:50,100
to say what we will do, what we

5473
03:56:50,100 --> 03:56:52,100
can do and what we can't do.

5474
03:56:52,100 --> 03:56:54,401
So really appreciate your

5475
03:56:57,100 --> 03:56:58,100
comments on that, James.

5476
03:56:58,100 --> 03:57:00,100
Supervisor Hopkins was

5477
03:57:00,100 --> 03:57:02,100
absolutely right earlier,

5478
03:57:02,100 --> 03:57:04,100
talking about as we put the

5479
03:57:04,100 --> 03:57:06,100
crisis response money

5480
03:57:07,100 --> 03:57:09,401
into the community, the

5481
03:57:10,100 --> 03:57:11,100
expectation was that that was a

5482
03:57:11,100 --> 03:57:12,100
pilot program,

5483
03:57:12,100 --> 03:57:13,100
that it was going

5484
03:57:13,100 --> 03:57:14,100
to be consolidated

5485
03:57:14,100 --> 03:57:17,100
into one program. Nolan has

5486
03:57:17,100 --> 03:57:18,100
heard me say several times,

5487
03:57:18,100 --> 03:57:19,100
you know, sometimes we have

5488
03:57:19,100 --> 03:57:20,100
to be the people saying no

5489
03:57:20,100 --> 03:57:22,401
in this conversation. Nolan

5490
03:57:23,100 --> 03:57:26,100
likes to say yes. I. I told him

5491
03:57:26,100 --> 03:57:27,100
it's time for him

5492
03:57:27,100 --> 03:57:29,100
to be the bad cop and us

5493
03:57:29,100 --> 03:57:33,100
to be a good cop every once

5494
03:57:33,100 --> 03:57:34,100
in a while.

5495
03:57:34,100 --> 03:57:35,100
But we can all be bad cops

5496
03:57:35,100 --> 03:57:37,100
on this. When we say we are not

5497
03:57:37,100 --> 03:57:39,100
able to keep doing this as we

5498
03:57:39,100 --> 03:57:40,100
have been doing it, we have

5499
03:57:40,100 --> 03:57:41,100
to get back to something that's

5500
03:57:41,100 --> 03:57:43,100
more efficient,

5501
03:57:46,100 --> 03:57:47,100
that makes more sense, that is

5502
03:57:47,100 --> 03:57:49,401
billable, and we have

5503
03:57:50,100 --> 03:57:51,100
to create one system out

5504
03:57:51,100 --> 03:57:53,100
of this somehow. So all this

5505
03:57:53,100 --> 03:57:55,100
has been said multiple times.

5506
03:57:55,100 --> 03:57:57,100
Again, thank you all for,

5507
03:57:57,100 --> 03:57:59,100
for your work

5508
03:57:59,100 --> 03:58:00,100
on this. I know this has been

5509
03:58:00,100 --> 03:58:03,100
on your minds a lot and

5510
03:58:03,100 --> 03:58:05,100
appreciate, along with

5511
03:58:05,100 --> 03:58:06,100
Supervisor Gore being in there

5512
03:58:06,100 --> 03:58:08,100
with you.

5513
03:58:08,100 --> 03:58:10,100
>> Supervisor Hopkins.

5514
03:58:10,100 --> 03:58:11,100
>> I wholeheartedly agree

5515
03:58:11,100 --> 03:58:12,100
with Supervisor's Gore and

5516
03:58:12,100 --> 03:58:13,100
Coursey and just want

5517
03:58:13,100 --> 03:58:15,100
to highlight that I think

5518
03:58:15,100 --> 03:58:16,100
in his last sentence,

5519
03:58:16,100 --> 03:58:17,100
Supervisor Gore said something

5520
03:58:17,100 --> 03:58:18,100
about policy. And I think that

5521
03:58:18,100 --> 03:58:19,100
that's what we need

5522
03:58:19,100 --> 03:58:21,100
to establish. And I know that

5523
03:58:21,100 --> 03:58:22,100
this is just. It's not an

5524
03:58:22,100 --> 03:58:23,100
action item,

5525
03:58:23,100 --> 03:58:24,100
it's a receiver report. But if

5526
03:58:24,100 --> 03:58:25,100
we could provide directions,

5527
03:58:25,100 --> 03:58:26,100
and maybe it does make sense,

5528
03:58:26,100 --> 03:58:27,100
you know, for there actually

5529
03:58:27,100 --> 03:58:28,100
to be

5530
03:58:28,100 --> 03:58:29,100
like a letter that comes back

5531
03:58:29,100 --> 03:58:30,100
on consent. So it's not just

5532
03:58:30,100 --> 03:58:31,100
sort of the chair signing it

5533
03:58:31,100 --> 03:58:32,100
on her own, but it really,

5534
03:58:32,100 --> 03:58:33,100
truly is the voice

5535
03:58:33,100 --> 03:58:34,100
of the full board of

5536
03:58:34,100 --> 03:58:35,100
Supervisor s essentially

5537
03:58:35,100 --> 03:58:36,100
establishing that policy. And I

5538
03:58:36,100 --> 03:58:37,100
do go back to, you know, fire

5539
03:58:37,100 --> 03:58:39,100
services, and we had a policy

5540
03:58:39,100 --> 03:58:40,100
with fire services, and it was,

5541
03:58:40,100 --> 03:58:42,100
you are not going to get money

5542
03:58:42,100 --> 03:58:43,100
unless you consolidate,

5543
03:58:43,100 --> 03:58:45,100
period. Suddenly, people

5544
03:58:45,100 --> 03:58:46,100
started consolidating. And so,

5545
03:58:46,100 --> 03:58:47,100
you know, I sort

5546
03:58:47,100 --> 03:58:48,100
of recognize that we need. We

5547
03:58:48,100 --> 03:58:49,100
have a need to throw lifelines

5548
03:58:49,100 --> 03:58:50,100
in order

5549
03:58:50,100 --> 03:58:52,100
to facilitate this process.

5550
03:58:52,100 --> 03:58:54,100
And we also did that

5551
03:58:54,100 --> 03:58:55,100
with fire services.

5552
03:58:55,100 --> 03:58:56,100
But I do think that, you know,

5553
03:58:56,100 --> 03:58:59,100
we need to establish a policy

5554
03:58:59,100 --> 03:59:00,000
that creates equitable access

5555
03:59:00,000 --> 03:59:01,100
to opportunities, you know,

5556
03:59:01,100 --> 03:59:03,100
for service,

5557
03:59:03,100 --> 03:59:04,100
so that we don't have this kind

5558
03:59:04,100 --> 03:59:05,100
of patchwork or differing

5559
03:59:05,100 --> 03:59:06,100
levels of service, depending

5560
03:59:06,100 --> 03:59:07,100
on what side of the

5561
03:59:07,100 --> 03:59:08,100
jurisdictional line that you

5562
03:59:08,100 --> 03:59:09,100
stand on. But also,

5563
03:59:09,100 --> 03:59:11,100
that leads us ultimately

5564
03:59:11,100 --> 03:59:12,100
towards consolidation, which I

5565
03:59:12,100 --> 03:59:13,100
think provides some

5566
03:59:13,100 --> 03:59:14,100
efficiencies of service

5567
03:59:14,100 --> 03:59:15,100
in addition to creating, you

5568
03:59:15,100 --> 03:59:18,100
know, sort of a one size.

5569
03:59:18,100 --> 03:59:20,100
Not. Not that there's. It's one

5570
03:59:20,100 --> 03:59:21,100
size fits all because every

5571
03:59:21,100 --> 03:59:23,100
case is responded

5572
03:59:23,100 --> 03:59:24,100
to individually.

5573
03:59:24,100 --> 03:59:25,100
But it creates consistency

5574
03:59:25,100 --> 03:59:26,100
in the approach

5575
03:59:26,100 --> 03:59:27,100
across jurisdictions, which I

5576
03:59:27,100 --> 03:59:28,100
think ultimately also creates

5577
03:59:28,100 --> 03:59:29,100
consistency

5578
03:59:29,100 --> 03:59:30,100
for law enforcement and kind

5579
03:59:30,100 --> 03:59:31,100
of a better understanding

5580
03:59:31,100 --> 03:59:32,100
from the community as a whole.

5581
03:59:32,100 --> 03:59:33,100
So I think it's. It really

5582
03:59:33,100 --> 03:59:34,100
benefits also in terms of even

5583
03:59:34,100 --> 03:59:35,100
like common branding. Same

5584
03:59:35,100 --> 03:59:36,100
phone number, same. You know,

5585
03:59:36,100 --> 03:59:37,100
it's like one door, right.

5586
03:59:37,100 --> 03:59:39,100
That everyone knows and is

5587
03:59:39,100 --> 03:59:41,100
aware about, as opposed to, oh,

5588
03:59:41,100 --> 03:59:43,100
wait, I've heard about this

5589
03:59:43,100 --> 03:59:44,100
thing and I thought it was

5590
03:59:44,100 --> 03:59:45,100
mobile. No, it's.

5591
03:59:45,100 --> 03:59:46,100
In response. No, it's safe.

5592
03:59:46,100 --> 03:59:47,100
And, you know,

5593
03:59:47,100 --> 03:59:49,100
I've heard people in the

5594
03:59:49,100 --> 03:59:50,100
community actually be confused.

5595
03:59:50,100 --> 03:59:51,100
I also just wanted

5596
03:59:51,100 --> 03:59:52,100
to take a moment

5597
03:59:52,100 --> 03:59:53,100
to say thank you

5598
03:59:53,100 --> 03:59:54,100
for your presentation to the

5599
03:59:54,100 --> 03:59:55,100
Sebastopol City Council,

5600
03:59:55,100 --> 03:59:56,100
because I also learned,

5601
03:59:56,100 --> 03:59:57,100
right. That there was a lack

5602
03:59:57,100 --> 03:59:58,100
of information or understanding

5603
03:59:58,100 --> 04:00:01,100
about the services that the

5604
04:00:01,100 --> 04:00:02,100
county, you know, provides,

5605
04:00:02,100 --> 04:00:03,100
even

5606
04:00:03,100 --> 04:00:04,100
at the city council level. And

5607
04:00:04,100 --> 04:00:05,100
so, you know, I think that also

5608
04:00:05,100 --> 04:00:06,100
is partly because they're like,

5609
04:00:06,100 --> 04:00:07,100
oh, well,

5610
04:00:07,100 --> 04:00:08,100
other cities are doing it, so

5611
04:00:08,100 --> 04:00:09,100
we must not have any services

5612
04:00:09,100 --> 04:00:10,100
here. Right. So not really

5613
04:00:10,100 --> 04:00:11,100
realizing that they're actually

5614
04:00:11,100 --> 04:00:13,100
covered by the county system.

5615
04:00:13,100 --> 04:00:14,100
So just really appreciate all

5616
04:00:14,100 --> 04:00:15,100
of the work and also want

5617
04:00:15,100 --> 04:00:16,100
to thank my colleagues

5618
04:00:16,100 --> 04:00:17,100
for serving

5619
04:00:17,100 --> 04:00:18,100
on the ad hoc and getting

5620
04:00:18,100 --> 04:00:19,100
into the weed on some really

5621
04:00:19,100 --> 04:00:20,100
difficult subjects. Also want

5622
04:00:20,100 --> 04:00:21,100
to highly recommend having your

5623
04:00:21,100 --> 04:00:23,100
spouse as your NO coach.

5624
04:00:23,100 --> 04:00:24,100
That's what my husband, he's

5625
04:00:24,100 --> 04:00:25,100
like,

5626
04:00:25,100 --> 04:00:26,100
I'm your NO coach. I'm going

5627
04:00:26,100 --> 04:00:27,100
to teach you how to say no. So

5628
04:00:27,100 --> 04:00:28,100
don't say yes to joining

5629
04:00:28,100 --> 04:00:29,100
another board or commission.

5630
04:00:29,100 --> 04:00:30,100
Say no. So just passing

5631
04:00:30,100 --> 04:00:31,100
on that. That suggestion.

5632
04:00:31,100 --> 04:00:33,100
>> Supervisor Rabbitt.

5633
04:00:35,100 --> 04:00:36,100
>> You know, thank you very

5634
04:00:36,100 --> 04:00:37,100
much, I agree with everything

5635
04:00:37,100 --> 04:00:39,100
that's been said. And this is

5636
04:00:39,100 --> 04:00:40,100
about geographic equity

5637
04:00:40,100 --> 04:00:41,100
countywide. It's also

5638
04:00:41,100 --> 04:00:42,100
about setting expectations.

5639
04:00:42,100 --> 04:00:44,100
And I think that if there was a

5640
04:00:44,100 --> 04:00:45,100
something to look back upon,

5641
04:00:45,100 --> 04:00:47,100
it was the expectation

5642
04:00:47,100 --> 04:00:48,100
of what Measure O is going

5643
04:00:48,100 --> 04:00:50,401
to do. You touched

5644
04:00:51,100 --> 04:00:52,100
on that briefly,

5645
04:00:52,100 --> 04:00:53,100
but I think it's not too late

5646
04:00:53,100 --> 04:00:56,100
on this tour and the

5647
04:00:56,100 --> 04:00:57,100
discussions that we have and

5648
04:00:57,100 --> 04:00:59,100
really kind

5649
04:00:59,100 --> 04:01:01,100
of telling people, cities and

5650
04:01:01,100 --> 04:01:02,100
city council members who

5651
04:01:02,100 --> 04:01:05,100
of course love their programs.

5652
04:01:05,100 --> 04:01:07,100
And now

5653
04:01:07,100 --> 04:01:08,100
in the last five years or so,

5654
04:01:08,100 --> 04:01:11,100
ever since, certainly like home

5655
04:01:11,100 --> 04:01:13,100
key and all these other things,

5656
04:01:13,100 --> 04:01:15,100
getting into much more social

5657
04:01:15,100 --> 04:01:17,100
service sides, I think of Rona

5658
04:01:17,100 --> 04:01:18,100
park,

5659
04:01:18,100 --> 04:01:20,100
who historically never was

5660
04:01:20,100 --> 04:01:21,100
in that realm,

5661
04:01:21,100 --> 04:01:22,100
now is we also need

5662
04:01:22,100 --> 04:01:23,100
to make sure that we're, you

5663
04:01:23,100 --> 04:01:25,100
know, providing the best

5664
04:01:25,100 --> 04:01:27,100
to them as possible as well.

5665
04:01:27,100 --> 04:01:29,100
And even the Cost per bed

5666
04:01:29,100 --> 04:01:31,100
on a home, key projects which

5667
04:01:31,100 --> 04:01:33,100
vary greatly. You know,

5668
04:01:33,100 --> 04:01:35,100
what's the policy going

5669
04:01:35,100 --> 04:01:36,100
to be there going forward.

5670
04:01:36,100 --> 04:01:38,100
But you know, I look at how

5671
04:01:38,100 --> 04:01:41,601
Measure M or Measure M, excuse

5672
04:01:42,100 --> 04:01:44,100
me, Measure O has been reported

5673
04:01:44,100 --> 04:01:47,100
and the messaging and it's a

5674
04:01:47,100 --> 04:01:48,100
scapegoat

5675
04:01:48,100 --> 04:01:49,100
for never having enough and

5676
04:01:49,100 --> 04:01:51,100
for the all, you know, quote

5677
04:01:51,100 --> 04:01:53,100
unquote our community's

5678
04:01:53,100 --> 04:01:54,100
failures when the reality is

5679
04:01:54,100 --> 04:01:56,100
just the opposite that as was

5680
04:01:56,100 --> 04:01:58,100
mentioned earlier there are

5681
04:01:58,100 --> 04:02:00,100
rare as the county that has the

5682
04:02:00,100 --> 04:02:01,100
opportunities that we've had

5683
04:02:01,100 --> 04:02:02,100
to do and

5684
04:02:02,100 --> 04:02:04,401
to provide those services

5685
04:02:05,100 --> 04:02:07,100
to those people. Each one

5686
04:02:07,100 --> 04:02:10,100
of them is a life-changing,

5687
04:02:10,100 --> 04:02:12,100
hopefully a life-changing event

5688
04:02:12,100 --> 04:02:14,100
and touching them

5689
04:02:14,100 --> 04:02:16,100
in that way and that rarely,

5690
04:02:16,100 --> 04:02:17,100
that message rarely gets put

5691
04:02:17,100 --> 04:02:19,100
out. Instead, it's just look

5692
04:02:19,100 --> 04:02:20,100
at it as an endless bucket of

5693
04:02:20,100 --> 04:02:22,100
money and if you can't provide

5694
04:02:22,100 --> 04:02:23,100
it,

5695
04:02:23,100 --> 04:02:24,100
it's a failure that is anything

5696
04:02:24,100 --> 04:02:26,100
but the truth. And it's

5697
04:02:26,100 --> 04:02:27,100
unfortunate that it gets

5698
04:02:27,100 --> 04:02:29,100
reported that way. So I think

5699
04:02:29,100 --> 04:02:30,100
that the messaging needs

5700
04:02:30,100 --> 04:02:31,100
to be continue needs to

5701
04:02:31,100 --> 04:02:33,100
continue especially if we have

5702
04:02:33,100 --> 04:02:35,100
any hope in making sure that we

5703
04:02:35,100 --> 04:02:36,100
can convince the voters that

5704
04:02:36,100 --> 04:02:37,100
this is something that actually

5705
04:02:37,100 --> 04:02:39,100
you see benefit

5706
04:02:39,100 --> 04:02:40,100
from each and every day. And

5707
04:02:40,100 --> 04:02:42,100
even if that benefit is not you

5708
04:02:42,100 --> 04:02:44,100
personally, it's your neighbor

5709
04:02:44,100 --> 04:02:45,100
that is being taken care of.

5710
04:02:45,100 --> 04:02:47,100
And it's a, you know,

5711
04:02:47,100 --> 04:02:49,100
it's a hard sell

5712
04:02:49,100 --> 04:02:50,100
but it's doable. So again,

5713
04:02:50,100 --> 04:02:51,100
thank you for all the work.

5714
04:02:51,100 --> 04:02:53,100
Appreciate it.

5715
04:02:54,100 --> 04:02:56,100
>> Thank you. With that I will

5716
04:02:56,100 --> 04:02:58,401
summarize that I agree

5717
04:03:00,100 --> 04:03:01,100
with my colleagues. They've

5718
04:03:01,100 --> 04:03:03,100
covered all the topics that

5719
04:03:03,100 --> 04:03:05,100
that I wanted to mention. It

5720
04:03:05,100 --> 04:03:06,100
looks like we have a direction

5721
04:03:06,100 --> 04:03:08,100
to go ahead and move forward

5722
04:03:08,100 --> 04:03:11,100
with basically a PR campaign to

5723
04:03:11,100 --> 04:03:13,100
help spread the good work

5724
04:03:13,100 --> 04:03:15,100
that's been done through

5725
04:03:15,100 --> 04:03:16,100
Measure O. Bring back a letter

5726
04:03:16,100 --> 04:03:18,100
on consent and thank you.

5727
04:03:18,100 --> 04:03:20,401
Thank you very much.

5728
04:03:25,100 --> 04:03:28,100
With that we are going

5729
04:03:28,100 --> 04:03:30,100
to go back to closed session.

5730
04:03:30,100 --> 04:03:33,100
We will be back. Thank you. We

5731
04:03:33,100 --> 04:03:35,100
will be back

5732
04:03:36,100 --> 04:03:37,100
at approximately 1:30.

5733
04:03:37,100 --> 04:03:39,100
[CLOSED SESSION]

5734
04:45:29,000 --> 04:45:30,100
And we are reconvening from

5735
04:45:30,100 --> 04:45:32,100
closed session and a few bites

5736
04:45:32,100 --> 04:45:34,100
of food. And we're going

5737
04:45:34,100 --> 04:45:36,100
to move on to Gold resolutions

5738
04:45:36,100 --> 04:45:38,100
and we are going to start

5739
04:45:38,100 --> 04:45:41,100
with adopting a gold resolution

5740
04:45:41,100 --> 04:45:43,401
to proclaim March 2026 as

5741
04:45:44,100 --> 04:45:47,100
American Red Cross Month. And

5742
04:45:47,100 --> 04:45:49,100
for that we have Andy and

5743
04:45:49,100 --> 04:45:52,601
Denny is Andy and. Hi, welcome.

5744
04:45:56,100 --> 04:45:57,100
Good to see you too. Welcome

5745
04:45:57,100 --> 04:46:00,601
you to say a few remarks.

5746
04:46:03,100 --> 04:46:05,100
>> Gore and Supervisor Rabbitt

5747
04:46:05,100 --> 04:46:07,100
for their service. We expect

5748
04:46:07,100 --> 04:46:08,100
that they might not be here

5749
04:46:08,100 --> 04:46:09,100
when we come visit you next

5750
04:46:09,100 --> 04:46:11,100
March. So thank you for their

5751
04:46:11,100 --> 04:46:13,100
service and the remaining four.

5752
04:46:13,100 --> 04:46:15,100
We'll see you again next year.

5753
04:46:15,100 --> 04:46:18,100
As you all know, Red Cross

5754
04:46:18,100 --> 04:46:19,100
partners closely with Sonoma

5755
04:46:19,100 --> 04:46:20,100
County

5756
04:46:20,100 --> 04:46:21,100
for disaster preparedness.

5757
04:46:21,100 --> 04:46:23,100
Your emergency services

5758
04:46:23,100 --> 04:46:24,100
department works closely with

5759
04:46:24,100 --> 04:46:26,100
The Red Cross. But emergency

5760
04:46:26,100 --> 04:46:29,100
responses are not all we do.

5761
04:46:29,100 --> 04:46:30,100
We have a lot

5762
04:46:30,100 --> 04:46:32,100
of preparedness activities. We

5763
04:46:32,100 --> 04:46:33,100
do. I lead a program called

5764
04:46:33,100 --> 04:46:36,100
Pedro Prepare with Pedro, which

5765
04:46:36,100 --> 04:46:37,100
is a classroom program

5766
04:46:37,100 --> 04:46:39,100
for K2 students

5767
04:46:40,100 --> 04:46:41,100
to prepare them what to do if

5768
04:46:41,100 --> 04:46:44,100
there's a home fire. I also

5769
04:46:44,100 --> 04:46:45,100
work closely with Sound the

5770
04:46:45,100 --> 04:46:46,100
Alarm, which is the

5771
04:46:46,100 --> 04:46:47,100
installation of smoke alarms

5772
04:46:47,100 --> 04:46:49,100
in the homes at no cost

5773
04:46:49,100 --> 04:46:51,100
to the residents. And we have

5774
04:46:51,100 --> 04:46:53,100
done hundreds of homes in

5775
04:46:53,100 --> 04:46:54,100
Sonoma County, making them

5776
04:46:54,100 --> 04:46:55,100
safer in case

5777
04:46:55,100 --> 04:46:57,100
of home fire. A couple

5778
04:46:57,100 --> 04:46:58,100
of other programs that we do,

5779
04:46:58,100 --> 04:47:00,401
Disaster Assistance Team and

5780
04:47:01,100 --> 04:47:03,401
Service the Armed Forces.

5781
04:47:04,100 --> 04:47:06,100
Denny Sigman is going

5782
04:47:06,100 --> 04:47:07,100
to talk a little bit

5783
04:47:07,100 --> 04:47:08,100
about those. But again,

5784
04:47:08,100 --> 04:47:09,100
thank you very much for the

5785
04:47:09,100 --> 04:47:11,100
proclamation and thank you

5786
04:47:11,100 --> 04:47:12,100
for the close work with the

5787
04:47:12,100 --> 04:47:14,100
Red Cross.

5788
04:47:14,100 --> 04:47:15,100
>> So my name is Denny

5789
04:47:15,100 --> 04:47:16,100
Sigmund. I've been doing Red

5790
04:47:16,100 --> 04:47:17,100
Cross for a boy

5791
04:47:17,100 --> 04:47:19,100
about three or four years.

5792
04:47:19,100 --> 04:47:21,100
Andy is my stepdad. My mom also

5793
04:47:21,100 --> 04:47:23,100
does Red Cross, and my wife

5794
04:47:23,100 --> 04:47:24,100
also does Red Cross. So it's a

5795
04:47:24,100 --> 04:47:27,100
family affair. I do DAT,

5796
04:47:27,100 --> 04:47:28,100
which is Disaster Action

5797
04:47:28,100 --> 04:47:30,100
Team. So when you have a flood

5798
04:47:30,100 --> 04:47:31,100
or a fire or somebody loses

5799
04:47:31,100 --> 04:47:33,100
their home, Red Cross comes

5800
04:47:33,100 --> 04:47:34,100
in and tries

5801
04:47:34,100 --> 04:47:35,100
to take some backup and says,

5802
04:47:35,100 --> 04:47:36,100
look, there's somebody here

5803
04:47:36,100 --> 04:47:37,100
to help you. And it may be

5804
04:47:37,100 --> 04:47:38,100
in the form of, you know,

5805
04:47:38,100 --> 04:47:40,100
helping them with money,

5806
04:47:40,100 --> 04:47:41,100
getting them back-up

5807
04:47:41,100 --> 04:47:43,100
on their feet or whatever.

5808
04:47:43,100 --> 04:47:44,100
Just shows that someone is

5809
04:47:44,100 --> 04:47:45,100
actually there. And then I also

5810
04:47:45,100 --> 04:47:46,100
do services to the armed

5811
04:47:46,100 --> 04:47:48,100
forces. I'm not military,

5812
04:47:48,100 --> 04:47:50,100
but we go

5813
04:47:50,100 --> 04:47:51,100
out there and we go help out

5814
04:47:51,100 --> 04:47:53,100
with the armed forces and

5815
04:47:53,100 --> 04:47:54,100
veterans and showing them that

5816
04:47:54,100 --> 04:47:55,100
someone does care if they need

5817
04:47:55,100 --> 04:47:56,100
help getting

5818
04:47:56,100 --> 04:47:57,100
through the VA and stuff

5819
04:47:57,100 --> 04:47:58,100
like that. Red Cross can assign

5820
04:47:58,100 --> 04:48:00,100
somebody

5821
04:48:00,100 --> 04:48:01,100
to help and go that way. So

5822
04:48:01,100 --> 04:48:03,100
that's pretty much. And also I

5823
04:48:03,100 --> 04:48:05,100
do stuff with Andy, which is

5824
04:48:05,100 --> 04:48:07,100
sound the alarm and still love

5825
04:48:07,100 --> 04:48:09,100
it. Still great thing

5826
04:48:09,100 --> 04:48:12,100
to be able to help out. That's

5827
04:48:12,100 --> 04:48:13,100
it.

5828
04:48:13,100 --> 04:48:14,100
>> Well, it's not completely.

5829
04:48:14,100 --> 04:48:15,100
One thing that neither of us

5830
04:48:15,100 --> 04:48:17,100
mentioned is blood drives.

5831
04:48:17,100 --> 04:48:18,100
American Red Cross is the

5832
04:48:18,100 --> 04:48:20,100
greatest, largest collector

5833
04:48:20,100 --> 04:48:22,100
of blood for hospitals

5834
04:48:22,100 --> 04:48:24,100
in the country. We have blood

5835
04:48:24,100 --> 04:48:26,100
drives across Sonoma County,

5836
04:48:26,100 --> 04:48:28,100
and we encourage Sonoma

5837
04:48:28,100 --> 04:48:31,100
County Board of Supervisor s

5838
04:48:31,100 --> 04:48:32,100
members of the audience

5839
04:48:32,100 --> 04:48:33,100
to sign up for Red Cross blood

5840
04:48:33,100 --> 04:48:35,100
drive and help out. There's a

5841
04:48:35,100 --> 04:48:36,100
critical blood shortage in

5842
04:48:36,100 --> 04:48:38,100
America. Thanks again very much

5843
04:48:38,100 --> 04:48:39,100
for the proclamation that

5844
04:48:39,100 --> 04:48:41,100
you're about to present.

5845
04:48:41,100 --> 04:48:42,100
>> Thank you.

5846
04:48:42,100 --> 04:48:43,100
>> Thank you. And we have

5847
04:48:43,100 --> 04:48:44,100
Supervisor Rabbitt that would

5848
04:48:44,100 --> 04:48:45,100
like to say a few words.

5849
04:48:45,100 --> 04:48:46,100
>> I just want

5850
04:48:46,100 --> 04:48:47,100
to say thank you. And I just

5851
04:48:47,100 --> 04:48:48,100
wanted to let this. Put this

5852
04:48:48,100 --> 04:48:49,100
fact out there. In the last 15

5853
04:48:49,100 --> 04:48:50,100
years, there's been 24, 24

5854
04:48:50,100 --> 04:48:52,401
locally declared disasters in

5855
04:48:53,100 --> 04:48:55,100
Sonoma County. 12 of those have

5856
04:48:55,100 --> 04:48:57,100
been state declared and nine of

5857
04:48:57,100 --> 04:48:59,100
those have been federally

5858
04:48:59,100 --> 04:49:01,100
declared. It is a constant

5859
04:49:01,100 --> 04:49:03,100
thing amongst us.

5860
04:49:04,100 --> 04:49:05,100
But every step of the way,

5861
04:49:05,100 --> 04:49:06,100
the Red Cross is there. So

5862
04:49:06,100 --> 04:49:08,100
thank you so much for.

5863
04:49:08,100 --> 04:49:10,100
For being there for that.

5864
04:49:10,100 --> 04:49:11,100
>> Thank you.

5865
04:49:11,100 --> 04:49:12,100
>> Thank you.

5866
04:49:12,100 --> 04:49:13,100
>> And thank you for your work

5867
04:49:13,100 --> 04:49:14,100
with Prepare with Pedro. I

5868
04:49:14,100 --> 04:49:16,100
appreciate it. And as

5869
04:49:16,100 --> 04:49:18,100
Supervisor Rabbitt says,

5870
04:49:18,100 --> 04:49:20,100
wherever there's been many

5871
04:49:20,100 --> 04:49:21,100
disasters and whenever we've

5872
04:49:21,100 --> 04:49:22,100
had it, especially locally,

5873
04:49:22,100 --> 04:49:23,100
you all have been there. And I

5874
04:49:23,100 --> 04:49:25,100
appreciate the blood dries and

5875
04:49:25,100 --> 04:49:26,100
your little thing of juice.

5876
04:49:26,100 --> 04:49:29,100
Let's take a picture. Thank

5877
04:49:29,100 --> 04:49:31,100
you.

5878
04:49:31,100 --> 04:49:32,100
>> Disaster here, every

5879
04:49:32,100 --> 04:49:34,100
Tuesday.

5880
04:50:55,100 --> 04:50:57,100
>> Thank you so much. And

5881
04:50:57,100 --> 04:50:58,100
with that, we are now going

5882
04:50:58,100 --> 04:51:00,100
to move on to adopting a gold

5883
04:51:00,100 --> 04:51:02,100
resolution honoring the 25th

5884
04:51:02,100 --> 04:51:04,100
anniversary of the Russian

5885
04:51:04,100 --> 04:51:06,100
River Sisters. And for that,

5886
04:51:06,100 --> 04:51:08,100
we have Guard Ian. Sister

5887
04:51:08,100 --> 04:51:10,401
Saranda Dabooty, VP Mistress

5888
04:51:14,100 --> 04:51:15,100
of Novices. I feel like I

5889
04:51:15,100 --> 04:51:17,100
really should change my name.

5890
04:51:17,100 --> 04:51:19,100
Welcome.

5891
04:51:20,100 --> 04:51:23,100
>> Thank you for having us.

5892
04:51:28,100 --> 04:51:31,601
Wait. All right. Hi. Thank you

5893
04:51:32,100 --> 04:51:34,100
very much

5894
04:51:34,100 --> 04:51:35,100
for this proclamation today.

5895
04:51:35,100 --> 04:51:36,100
We really,

5896
04:51:36,100 --> 04:51:37,100
really appreciate it. Any

5897
04:51:37,100 --> 04:51:39,100
of you

5898
04:51:39,100 --> 04:51:40,100
on the board are invited

5899
04:51:40,100 --> 04:51:42,100
to our anniversary party next

5900
04:51:42,100 --> 04:51:44,100
Friday night. It's Good

5901
04:51:44,100 --> 04:51:45,100
Friday. We make it a very good

5902
04:51:45,100 --> 04:51:47,100
Friday. Our theme

5903
04:51:47,100 --> 04:51:50,100
for our party is still

5904
04:51:50,100 --> 04:51:52,100
sparkling after 25 years.

5905
04:51:59,100 --> 04:52:00,100
But there's. There's a

5906
04:52:00,100 --> 04:52:01,100
beginning part.

5907
04:52:01,100 --> 04:52:03,100
>> Silver and still sparkling.

5908
04:52:03,100 --> 04:52:04,100
>> There we go.

5909
04:52:04,100 --> 04:52:05,100
>> I just looked it up.

5910
04:52:05,100 --> 04:52:06,100
>> Thank you, Linda. I

5911
04:52:06,100 --> 04:52:07,100
appreciate you always having

5912
04:52:07,100 --> 04:52:09,100
our backs. So we will be giving

5913
04:52:09,100 --> 04:52:11,100
saint medallions

5914
04:52:11,100 --> 04:52:13,100
to new saints. We will be

5915
04:52:13,100 --> 04:52:15,100
giving people grants

5916
04:52:16,100 --> 04:52:19,100
for their hard work and

5917
04:52:20,100 --> 04:52:22,401
Sonoma County and yeah,

5918
04:52:25,100 --> 04:52:26,100
I've seen a lot of kiddos here

5919
04:52:26,100 --> 04:52:28,100
and I know that some

5920
04:52:28,100 --> 04:52:31,100
of them are local. We do a. Or

5921
04:52:31,100 --> 04:52:32,100
local to West County. We do a

5922
04:52:32,100 --> 04:52:35,100
yearly holiday toy drive where

5923
04:52:35,100 --> 04:52:38,100
we give students to Monterio

5924
04:52:42,100 --> 04:52:43,100
School, Guerneville School,

5925
04:52:43,100 --> 04:52:45,100
Forestville School. The

5926
04:52:45,100 --> 04:52:47,100
opportunity to spend $20 at

5927
04:52:47,100 --> 04:52:49,100
local businesses and have some

5928
04:52:49,100 --> 04:52:51,100
kind of a gift. A lot

5929
04:52:51,100 --> 04:52:52,100
of them give it

5930
04:52:52,100 --> 04:52:53,100
to their family,

5931
04:52:53,100 --> 04:52:55,100
which is totally fine. And

5932
04:52:55,100 --> 04:52:57,100
that's us. For those

5933
04:52:57,100 --> 04:52:58,100
of you who are here and go to

5934
04:52:58,100 --> 04:53:00,100
Forestville School or

5935
04:53:00,100 --> 04:53:02,401
Guerneville School. Thank you.

5936
04:53:07,100 --> 04:53:09,100
>> And. And it's not just those

5937
04:53:09,100 --> 04:53:10,100
three schools. It's also the

5938
04:53:10,100 --> 04:53:12,401
associated preschools. We also

5939
04:53:13,100 --> 04:53:16,100
have a Nuns of the

5940
04:53:16,100 --> 04:53:18,100
above scholarship fund

5941
04:53:18,100 --> 04:53:19,100
for graduating seniors of

5942
04:53:19,100 --> 04:53:22,100
West County High Schools and

5943
04:53:22,100 --> 04:53:24,401
returning students for SRJC.

5944
04:53:26,100 --> 04:53:28,100
We do a lot

5945
04:53:28,100 --> 04:53:30,100
in the community. A lot

5946
04:53:30,100 --> 04:53:33,100
of people maybe don't reckon,

5947
04:53:33,100 --> 04:53:36,100
don't know that if they don't

5948
04:53:36,100 --> 04:53:39,100
know us. Our anniversary party

5949
04:53:39,100 --> 04:53:41,100
is in fact an all age thing.

5950
04:53:41,100 --> 04:53:43,100
So if any

5951
04:53:43,100 --> 04:53:44,100
of the kiddos here want

5952
04:53:44,100 --> 04:53:46,100
to attend, that would be

5953
04:53:46,100 --> 04:53:49,100
lovely. I do have brochures if

5954
04:53:49,100 --> 04:53:51,100
anyone is interested

5955
04:53:52,100 --> 04:53:54,100
in learning more about us.

5956
04:53:54,100 --> 04:53:57,100
But we can't do what we do

5957
04:53:57,100 --> 04:53:59,100
without the Sonoma County

5958
04:53:59,100 --> 04:54:01,100
community. And it's

5959
04:54:01,100 --> 04:54:03,100
through everyone's generation.

5960
04:54:03,100 --> 04:54:06,601
Generate. Sorry, I have a head

5961
04:54:07,100 --> 04:54:10,100
injury. Generosity that we are

5962
04:54:10,100 --> 04:54:13,100
able to then give back

5963
04:54:13,100 --> 04:54:15,401
to the different organizations.

5964
04:54:18,100 --> 04:54:20,100
And I must say, my very first

5965
04:54:20,100 --> 04:54:22,100
year, one

5966
04:54:22,100 --> 04:54:23,100
of the grants we gave out was

5967
04:54:23,100 --> 04:54:26,601
to Monte Rio Little League, and

5968
04:54:27,100 --> 04:54:28,100
they came

5969
04:54:28,100 --> 04:54:30,100
to us and they said,

5970
04:54:30,100 --> 04:54:33,100
we just need dirt. We don't

5971
04:54:33,100 --> 04:54:36,601
have dirt for our infield. And

5972
04:54:37,100 --> 04:54:39,100
we were able to grant them

5973
04:54:39,100 --> 04:54:41,100
$500 to get dirt. And it's just

5974
04:54:41,100 --> 04:54:44,100
that simple. If there's a need,

5975
04:54:44,100 --> 04:54:48,100
we want to try and fill it. So

5976
04:54:48,100 --> 04:54:50,100
thank you so much

5977
04:54:50,100 --> 04:54:52,100
for this opportunity.

5978
04:54:53,100 --> 04:54:55,100
>> Thank you.

5979
04:54:56,100 --> 04:54:58,100
>> Don't go far. Don't go far.

5980
04:54:58,100 --> 04:54:59,100
Supervisor Hopkins has a few

5981
04:54:59,100 --> 04:55:01,100
words.

5982
04:55:01,100 --> 04:55:02,100
>> I just want to say, and I

5983
04:55:02,100 --> 04:55:03,100
say this a lot. I do believe it

5984
04:55:03,100 --> 04:55:06,100
with every kind of bone

5985
04:55:06,100 --> 04:55:07,100
in my body that I have the best

5986
04:55:07,100 --> 04:55:08,100
100,000 bosses

5987
04:55:08,100 --> 04:55:09,100
in the world. I love working

5988
04:55:09,100 --> 04:55:11,100
for West County. You can't have

5989
04:55:11,100 --> 04:55:12,100
favorite kids, but I do have

5990
04:55:12,100 --> 04:55:13,100
some more favorite bosses. And

5991
04:55:13,100 --> 04:55:15,100
I just want to say that the

5992
04:55:15,100 --> 04:55:17,100
sisters are absolutely

5993
04:55:17,100 --> 04:55:19,100
on that list. You bring so much

5994
04:55:19,100 --> 04:55:21,100
beauty and joy and good change

5995
04:55:21,100 --> 04:55:24,100
to the community. And if you

5996
04:55:24,100 --> 04:55:25,100
all haven't been

5997
04:55:25,100 --> 04:55:26,100
to a bingo night, you need

5998
04:55:26,100 --> 04:55:27,100
to get to a bingo night because

5999
04:55:27,100 --> 04:55:29,100
it is so much fun and it raises

6000
04:55:29,100 --> 04:55:31,100
money for the community and it

6001
04:55:31,100 --> 04:55:32,100
goes straight back

6002
04:55:32,100 --> 04:55:34,100
into all kinds of little tiny

6003
04:55:34,100 --> 04:55:35,100
organizations where $500 makes

6004
04:55:35,100 --> 04:55:37,100
that difference, right in a

6005
04:55:37,100 --> 04:55:39,100
brand new sports field that you

6006
04:55:39,100 --> 04:55:40,100
couldn't otherwise afford. And

6007
04:55:40,100 --> 04:55:42,100
so just thank you

6008
04:55:42,100 --> 04:55:43,100
for being a part

6009
04:55:43,100 --> 04:55:44,100
of the community,

6010
04:55:44,100 --> 04:55:46,100
for being who you are, and for,

6011
04:55:46,100 --> 04:55:48,100
as the sisters always say,

6012
04:55:48,100 --> 04:55:49,100
we love you, and there isn't a

6013
04:55:49,100 --> 04:55:50,100
damn thing you can do

6014
04:55:50,100 --> 04:55:52,100
about it. And that love shows

6015
04:55:52,100 --> 04:55:53,100
in what you do. So thank you so

6016
04:55:53,100 --> 04:55:55,100
much.

6017
04:55:55,100 --> 04:55:57,100
>> Thank you.

6018
04:55:59,100 --> 04:56:01,401
>> Let's do a photo.

6019
04:56:02,100 --> 04:56:04,100
>> And Beth, are you going

6020
04:56:04,100 --> 04:56:05,100
to come up with. Sit

6021
04:56:05,100 --> 04:56:06,100
in the back there. Come on.

6022
04:56:06,100 --> 04:56:07,100
>> I'll just also say whatever

6023
04:56:07,100 --> 04:56:08,100
head injury you were

6024
04:56:08,100 --> 04:56:09,100
referencing made you pretty

6025
04:56:09,100 --> 04:56:10,100
awesome because it's a blessing

6026
04:56:10,100 --> 04:56:12,401
to be with you.

6027
04:57:59,100 --> 04:58:01,100
>> Thank you so much. And

6028
04:58:01,100 --> 04:58:02,100
with that, we're going

6029
04:58:02,100 --> 04:58:03,100
to now move on

6030
04:58:03,100 --> 04:58:05,100
to presenting a gold resolution

6031
04:58:05,100 --> 04:58:08,100
in honor of National Farm

6032
04:58:08,100 --> 04:58:10,100
Worker Awareness week,

6033
04:58:10,100 --> 04:58:11,100
which is March 25th

6034
04:58:11,100 --> 04:58:14,100
through the 31st. If you were

6035
04:58:14,100 --> 04:58:16,100
here this morning, you would

6036
04:58:16,100 --> 04:58:17,100
have heard my remarks

6037
04:58:17,100 --> 04:58:19,401
addressing the holiday on

6038
04:58:21,100 --> 04:58:25,100
Tuesday. And so I and I welcome

6039
04:58:25,100 --> 04:58:26,100
folks back

6040
04:58:26,100 --> 04:58:28,100
for this gold resolution. And

6041
04:58:28,100 --> 04:58:31,100
with that, we have Anadias

6042
04:58:31,100 --> 04:58:33,100
representing Rosalynn,

6043
04:58:33,100 --> 04:58:35,100
Candido Morales with Latinos

6044
04:58:35,100 --> 04:58:37,100
Unidos, Dr. Mariana Martinez,

6045
04:58:37,100 --> 04:58:40,100
Anita with Great Day labor

6046
04:58:40,100 --> 04:58:42,100
center, and Maria Membrilla

6047
04:58:42,100 --> 04:58:43,100
with Sonoma Valley

6048
04:58:43,100 --> 04:58:45,100
Collaborative. And who is going

6049
04:58:45,100 --> 04:58:46,100
to come to the mic to say a few

6050
04:58:46,100 --> 04:58:47,100
words and accept this gold

6051
04:58:47,100 --> 04:58:49,100
resolution?

6052
04:58:59,100 --> 04:59:00,100
>> Good afternoon, everyone.

6053
04:59:00,100 --> 04:59:02,100
So I guess I will be going

6054
04:59:02,100 --> 04:59:04,401
first. Bear with me

6055
04:59:08,000 --> 04:59:11,000
on the right. Okay. Good

6056
04:59:14,100 --> 04:59:16,100
afternoon, Supervisor s. Today

6057
04:59:16,100 --> 04:59:17,100
I want to begin acknowledging

6058
04:59:17,100 --> 04:59:18,100
Farm Workers Day and Farm

6059
04:59:18,100 --> 04:59:20,100
Worker Awareness Week. A time

6060
04:59:20,100 --> 04:59:22,100
to recognize the fruit

6061
04:59:22,100 --> 04:59:23,100
of my people's labors, their

6062
04:59:23,100 --> 04:59:24,100
resilience and contributions

6063
04:59:24,100 --> 04:59:26,100
to those who feed this county,

6064
04:59:26,100 --> 04:59:27,100
sustain our economy,

6065
04:59:27,100 --> 04:59:30,601
and often go unseen. I'm here

6066
04:59:31,100 --> 04:59:32,100
to talk about something deeper

6067
04:59:32,100 --> 04:59:34,100
than policy. I'm here to talk

6068
04:59:34,100 --> 04:59:36,100
about the people. It's easy

6069
04:59:36,100 --> 04:59:38,100
to show up to events,

6070
04:59:38,100 --> 04:59:39,100
to take photos

6071
04:59:39,100 --> 04:59:41,100
at celebrations such as Cinco

6072
04:59:41,100 --> 04:59:42,100
de Mayo and Roseland, to stand

6073
04:59:42,100 --> 04:59:43,100
alongside the community and

6074
04:59:43,100 --> 04:59:45,401
moments that are visible.

6075
04:59:46,100 --> 04:59:47,100
But real support for our farm

6076
04:59:47,100 --> 04:59:48,100
worker community is not

6077
04:59:48,100 --> 04:59:50,100
measured in appearances. It's

6078
04:59:50,100 --> 04:59:53,100
measured in actions and follow

6079
04:59:53,100 --> 04:59:56,100
through and whether lives are

6080
04:59:57,100 --> 04:59:59,100
actually improving. We have

6081
04:59:59,100 --> 05:00:01,100
organizations doing real work

6082
05:00:01,100 --> 05:00:04,100
every day. Groups like Sonoma

6083
05:00:04,100 --> 05:00:06,100
County Library, Redwood

6084
05:00:06,100 --> 05:00:08,100
Empire Food Bank, Latinos

6085
05:00:08,100 --> 05:00:11,100
Unidos del Condado and very few

6086
05:00:11,100 --> 05:00:13,401
others. They provide free

6087
05:00:15,100 --> 05:00:16,100
services, support families,

6088
05:00:16,100 --> 05:00:18,100
and even create scholarships

6089
05:00:18,100 --> 05:00:19,100
for students

6090
05:00:19,100 --> 05:00:21,100
from farm worker families.

6091
05:00:21,100 --> 05:00:22,100
Latinos Unidos especially is

6092
05:00:22,100 --> 05:00:24,100
entirely a volunteer run. No

6093
05:00:24,100 --> 05:00:26,100
paid staff,

6094
05:00:26,100 --> 05:00:28,100
and just people committed

6095
05:00:28,100 --> 05:00:30,401
to uplifting their community.

6096
05:00:31,100 --> 05:00:32,100
But that's what real supporting

6097
05:00:32,100 --> 05:00:34,100
support looks like.

6098
05:00:34,100 --> 05:00:35,100
But when it comes to housing,

6099
05:00:35,100 --> 05:00:37,100
we are falling short. We cannot

6100
05:00:37,100 --> 05:00:39,100
ignore what happened in Wood

6101
05:00:39,100 --> 05:00:41,100
mark Apartments. Housing that

6102
05:00:41,100 --> 05:00:42,100
was meant for farm workers that

6103
05:00:42,100 --> 05:00:43,100
did not reach them in time.

6104
05:00:43,100 --> 05:00:45,100
And many of us didn't know when

6105
05:00:45,100 --> 05:00:47,401
the applications were open.

6106
05:00:48,100 --> 05:00:49,100
The lack of outreach matters

6107
05:00:49,100 --> 05:00:51,100
because while opportunities

6108
05:00:51,100 --> 05:00:52,100
pass, farm workers were

6109
05:00:52,100 --> 05:00:54,100
displaced, leaving the county,

6110
05:00:54,100 --> 05:00:55,100
becoming homeless,

6111
05:00:55,100 --> 05:00:56,100
or even sleeping

6112
05:00:56,100 --> 05:00:58,100
in their cars and parking lots

6113
05:00:58,100 --> 05:01:01,601
of many. If the community has

6114
05:01:03,100 --> 05:01:04,100
been informed, many of us could

6115
05:01:04,100 --> 05:01:06,100
have helped ensure those units

6116
05:01:06,100 --> 05:01:07,100
reach the people they were

6117
05:01:07,100 --> 05:01:09,100
built for. At the same time,

6118
05:01:09,100 --> 05:01:12,601
we have to talk about funding

6119
05:01:14,100 --> 05:01:16,100
and accountability. Farm worker

6120
05:01:16,100 --> 05:01:17,100
emergency funds were brought

6121
05:01:17,100 --> 05:01:19,100
before this board increased

6122
05:01:19,100 --> 05:01:21,100
to nearly $1 million and was

6123
05:01:21,100 --> 05:01:22,100
meant

6124
05:01:22,100 --> 05:01:23,100
to support this community

6125
05:01:23,100 --> 05:01:24,100
in the crisis of time

6126
05:01:24,100 --> 05:01:26,100
during the floods.

6127
05:01:29,100 --> 05:01:30,100
Unfortunately, the remaining

6128
05:01:30,100 --> 05:01:31,100
amounts were given to

6129
05:01:31,100 --> 05:01:33,100
nonprofits such as CPI and

6130
05:01:33,100 --> 05:01:36,100
code. This raises a serious

6131
05:01:37,100 --> 05:01:39,100
question. And then there's the

6132
05:01:39,100 --> 05:01:41,100
Ag Pass program. Research

6133
05:01:41,100 --> 05:01:43,100
from UC Berkeley has made it

6134
05:01:43,100 --> 05:01:46,100
clear that the Ag Pass does not

6135
05:01:46,100 --> 05:01:48,100
truly protect our farm workers.

6136
05:01:48,100 --> 05:01:50,100
It allows the work to continue

6137
05:01:50,100 --> 05:01:52,100
during dangerous conditions,

6138
05:01:52,100 --> 05:01:54,100
but not the center

6139
05:01:54,100 --> 05:01:55,100
of safety and wellbeing

6140
05:01:55,100 --> 05:01:58,100
of the farm workers themselves.

6141
05:01:58,100 --> 05:02:00,100
Because at the same time,

6142
05:02:00,100 --> 05:02:01,100
farm workers are being pushed

6143
05:02:01,100 --> 05:02:03,100
out of housing, farm workers

6144
05:02:03,100 --> 05:02:04,100
are leaving the county or

6145
05:02:04,100 --> 05:02:05,100
living in their cars. Outreach

6146
05:02:05,100 --> 05:02:07,100
is not being reached to the

6147
05:02:07,100 --> 05:02:09,100
program or the very people that

6148
05:02:09,100 --> 05:02:10,100
these programs were designated

6149
05:02:10,100 --> 05:02:12,100
for. And I want

6150
05:02:12,100 --> 05:02:13,100
to make it clear

6151
05:02:13,100 --> 05:02:14,100
about something else. This

6152
05:02:14,100 --> 05:02:15,100
movement was not

6153
05:02:15,100 --> 05:02:17,100
about one person. It was

6154
05:02:17,100 --> 05:02:19,100
about the people. People

6155
05:02:19,100 --> 05:02:21,100
like my grandfather Campesinos

6156
05:02:21,100 --> 05:02:23,100
workers who wake up

6157
05:02:23,100 --> 05:02:25,401
before sunrise, who labor

6158
05:02:26,100 --> 05:02:28,100
through heat, through floods,

6159
05:02:28,100 --> 05:02:30,100
through smoke and uncertainty,

6160
05:02:30,100 --> 05:02:33,100
who have built their lives and

6161
05:02:33,100 --> 05:02:35,100
their local economic or economy

6162
05:02:35,100 --> 05:02:36,100
through sacrifice and

6163
05:02:36,100 --> 05:02:39,100
resilience. When I speak today,

6164
05:02:39,100 --> 05:02:40,100
I speak

6165
05:02:40,100 --> 05:02:42,100
for them not as symbols,

6166
05:02:42,100 --> 05:02:44,100
but as real people who deserve

6167
05:02:44,100 --> 05:02:46,100
to be seen, heard,

6168
05:02:46,100 --> 05:02:48,100
and supported. The shirt that I

6169
05:02:48,100 --> 05:02:49,100
am wearing today represents

6170
05:02:49,100 --> 05:02:52,100
them. It represents a movement.

6171
05:02:52,100 --> 05:02:54,401
It represents dignity. What

6172
05:02:57,100 --> 05:02:58,100
we've seen recently shown that

6173
05:02:58,100 --> 05:03:00,100
government can act quickly when

6174
05:03:00,100 --> 05:03:03,100
it chooses to. Name changes

6175
05:03:03,100 --> 05:03:05,100
to holidays is one. This gives

6176
05:03:05,100 --> 05:03:07,100
me hope. I also want

6177
05:03:07,100 --> 05:03:08,100
to acknowledge, acknowledge

6178
05:03:08,100 --> 05:03:11,100
Mr. Zeke Guzman, who cannot be

6179
05:03:11,100 --> 05:03:12,100
here today,

6180
05:03:12,100 --> 05:03:14,100
an elder who has been

6181
05:03:14,100 --> 05:03:15,100
in this fight

6182
05:03:15,100 --> 05:03:16,100
for years and continues to show

6183
05:03:16,100 --> 05:03:17,100
up supporting the community

6184
05:03:17,100 --> 05:03:19,100
through Hardines del Pueblo.

6185
05:03:19,100 --> 05:03:20,100
The kind

6186
05:03:20,100 --> 05:03:22,100
of commitment matters. Some

6187
05:03:22,100 --> 05:03:23,100
of you will be moving on

6188
05:03:23,100 --> 05:03:24,100
from this board. But

6189
05:03:24,100 --> 05:03:26,100
before you, I ask to think

6190
05:03:26,100 --> 05:03:27,100
about your legacy. And I thank

6191
05:03:27,100 --> 05:03:28,100
you

6192
05:03:28,100 --> 05:03:29,100
for your service as you move

6193
05:03:29,100 --> 05:03:30,100
on to the next,

6194
05:03:30,100 --> 05:03:32,100
to the next movement

6195
05:03:32,100 --> 05:03:35,601
of your life. Stand with farm

6196
05:03:36,100 --> 05:03:37,100
workers not just today,

6197
05:03:37,100 --> 05:03:38,100
not just

6198
05:03:38,100 --> 05:03:39,100
in moments that are visible,

6199
05:03:39,100 --> 05:03:41,100
but always invest

6200
05:03:42,100 --> 05:03:43,100
in outreach, be accountable

6201
05:03:43,100 --> 05:03:45,100
with funding,

6202
05:03:45,100 --> 05:03:47,100
and ensure that programs

6203
05:03:47,100 --> 05:03:48,100
created for farm workers truly

6204
05:03:48,100 --> 05:03:50,100
reach them. Because at the end

6205
05:03:50,100 --> 05:03:51,100
of the day, it's not

6206
05:03:51,100 --> 05:03:52,100
about the programs or

6207
05:03:52,100 --> 05:03:54,100
about the money. It's

6208
05:03:54,100 --> 05:03:55,100
about our people. And you know,

6209
05:03:55,100 --> 05:03:57,100
one thing that I'm super proud

6210
05:03:57,100 --> 05:03:58,100
about when it comes

6211
05:03:58,100 --> 05:04:01,100
to my district, when you walk

6212
05:04:01,100 --> 05:04:03,100
into my supervisor's office,

6213
05:04:03,100 --> 05:04:05,100
there's a farm worker smoking

6214
05:04:05,100 --> 05:04:07,100
on his lunch break. And that's

6215
05:04:07,100 --> 05:04:10,100
Mr. Chris Coursey. So I want

6216
05:04:10,100 --> 05:04:11,100
to thank you all

6217
05:04:11,100 --> 05:04:13,100
for your service. James Gore, I

6218
05:04:13,100 --> 05:04:14,100
know you're on your way out.

6219
05:04:14,100 --> 05:04:17,100
Mr. Rabbitt, you too. Thank you

6220
05:04:17,100 --> 05:04:18,100
for your time and

6221
05:04:18,100 --> 05:04:20,100
for your service.

6222
05:04:22,100 --> 05:04:24,100
>> Thank you.

6223
05:04:27,100 --> 05:04:29,100
>> As a reminder,

6224
05:04:30,100 --> 05:04:33,100
we have headphones. If anybody

6225
05:04:33,100 --> 05:04:34,100
needs headphones, they're here

6226
05:04:34,100 --> 05:04:35,100
on the table. Just raise your

6227
05:04:35,100 --> 05:04:36,100
hand and we'll get you

6228
05:04:36,100 --> 05:04:37,100
headphone.

6229
05:04:37,100 --> 05:04:38,100
>> Good afternoon.

6230
05:04:38,100 --> 05:04:40,100
>> Good afternoon.

6231
05:04:40,100 --> 05:04:41,100
>> My name is Candido

6232
05:04:41,100 --> 05:04:43,100
Morales, and I'm here

6233
05:04:43,100 --> 05:04:45,100
representing our president,

6234
05:04:46,100 --> 05:04:48,100
Zeke Guzman, who is

6235
05:04:48,100 --> 05:04:51,100
on business in Sacramento. I'm

6236
05:04:53,100 --> 05:04:56,100
on the board of directors of

6237
05:04:56,100 --> 05:04:58,100
Latinos Unidos del Contado de

6238
05:04:58,100 --> 05:05:00,100
Sonoma, a community-based

6239
05:05:00,100 --> 05:05:02,100
organization incorporated in

6240
05:05:03,100 --> 05:05:05,100
1966. Mr. Pasalaqua, an

6241
05:05:10,100 --> 05:05:13,601
attorney at the time, was the

6242
05:05:14,100 --> 05:05:16,100
one that filled the papers

6243
05:05:16,100 --> 05:05:18,100
to go to Sacramento

6244
05:05:18,100 --> 05:05:20,401
for incorporation. And Josh

6245
05:05:22,100 --> 05:05:25,100
Ortiz, a personality that most

6246
05:05:25,100 --> 05:05:28,100
of you know, was one

6247
05:05:31,100 --> 05:05:32,100
of the founders as well,

6248
05:05:32,100 --> 05:05:35,100
except for George and Mr.

6249
05:05:37,100 --> 05:05:39,100
Baudelio Salazar. The rest

6250
05:05:39,100 --> 05:05:40,100
of the board

6251
05:05:40,100 --> 05:05:42,100
of directors were farm workers,

6252
05:05:42,100 --> 05:05:45,100
and they came from Sonoma,

6253
05:05:46,100 --> 05:05:48,100
Tetaduluma, Grayton,

6254
05:05:48,100 --> 05:05:50,100
Sebastopol, Kashaville in

6255
05:05:52,100 --> 05:05:54,401
Healdsburg. Latinos unidos has

6256
05:05:58,100 --> 05:06:00,100
a scholarship program,

6257
05:06:03,100 --> 05:06:05,100
as mentioned

6258
05:06:05,100 --> 05:06:07,100
by the young lady that preceded

6259
05:06:07,100 --> 05:06:08,100
Me. And we help students who

6260
05:06:08,100 --> 05:06:10,100
are graduating

6261
05:06:11,100 --> 05:06:14,100
from high school and also

6262
05:06:14,100 --> 05:06:16,100
for people who are already

6263
05:06:16,100 --> 05:06:17,100
in college

6264
05:06:17,100 --> 05:06:19,100
but need financial assistance

6265
05:06:19,100 --> 05:06:21,401
to continue their studying.

6266
05:06:23,100 --> 05:06:25,100
And this year,

6267
05:06:26,100 --> 05:06:27,100
the presentation

6268
05:06:27,100 --> 05:06:28,100
of scholarships will be on

6269
05:06:28,100 --> 05:06:30,100
September 20th at the

6270
05:06:30,100 --> 05:06:32,100
Guadalupe center

6271
05:06:35,100 --> 05:06:38,100
at 2pm and you are invited

6272
05:06:38,100 --> 05:06:41,100
to join us. We estimate that

6273
05:06:41,100 --> 05:06:43,401
anywhere from 60 to 65 students

6274
05:06:48,100 --> 05:06:50,401
will receive a scholarship

6275
05:06:51,100 --> 05:06:54,100
from Latinos Unidos. We want

6276
05:06:55,100 --> 05:06:58,100
to commend you for the

6277
05:06:58,100 --> 05:07:00,401
proclamation that you called

6278
05:07:02,100 --> 05:07:05,100
the Gold Resolution. And with

6279
05:07:06,100 --> 05:07:09,100
that you are acknowledging the

6280
05:07:09,100 --> 05:07:10,100
contributions,

6281
05:07:10,100 --> 05:07:12,100
the many contributions

6282
05:07:12,100 --> 05:07:15,100
of farm workers in Sonoma

6283
05:07:15,100 --> 05:07:18,100
County. Thank you very much.

6284
05:07:18,100 --> 05:07:20,100
>> Thank you.

6285
05:07:30,100 --> 05:07:32,100
>> [SPANISH]

6286
05:07:36,100 --> 05:07:37,100
>> If anybody needs headphones,

6287
05:07:37,100 --> 05:07:39,100
please let us know and then

6288
05:07:39,100 --> 05:07:40,100
give us, my colleagues,

6289
05:07:40,100 --> 05:07:42,100
a minute to put on their

6290
05:07:42,100 --> 05:07:44,100
headphones.

6291
05:07:45,100 --> 05:07:47,100
>> [SPANISH]

6292
05:09:10,100 --> 05:09:11,100
>> Gracias.

6293
05:09:11,100 --> 05:09:13,100
>> Gracias.

6294
05:10:12,100 --> 05:10:14,401
>> [SPANISH]. So I'm going

6295
05:10:20,100 --> 05:10:22,100
to say just a few remarks

6296
05:10:22,100 --> 05:10:24,100
on this Gold Resolution and

6297
05:10:24,100 --> 05:10:27,100
acknowledge that we don't have

6298
05:10:28,100 --> 05:10:29,100
enough headsets for me

6299
05:10:29,100 --> 05:10:33,201
to do it in Spanish. So today

6300
05:10:35,100 --> 05:10:36,100
we honor Farm Worker Week

6301
05:10:36,100 --> 05:10:40,100
in a time where there is a lot

6302
05:10:40,100 --> 05:10:43,601
of negative rhetoric from D.C.

6303
05:10:45,100 --> 05:10:48,100
and I know that they don't feel

6304
05:10:48,100 --> 05:10:50,100
the support that they deserve

6305
05:10:50,100 --> 05:10:53,100
nationally, but locally we know

6306
05:10:53,100 --> 05:10:54,100
and we see they are the

6307
05:10:54,100 --> 05:10:56,401
backbone to our community.

6308
05:10:57,100 --> 05:10:59,100
They are our friends and

6309
05:10:59,100 --> 05:11:00,100
neighbors,

6310
05:11:00,100 --> 05:11:02,100
and they are what makes

6311
05:11:02,100 --> 05:11:03,100
Sonoma County so amazing and

6312
05:11:03,100 --> 05:11:05,401
beautiful. And Anna's right.

6313
05:11:08,100 --> 05:11:09,100
The farm workers rise

6314
05:11:09,100 --> 05:11:11,100
before dawn, work long,

6315
05:11:11,100 --> 05:11:13,401
extenuating hours in sometimes

6316
05:11:14,100 --> 05:11:16,401
not great conditions. Their

6317
05:11:17,100 --> 05:11:19,100
work is not only physically

6318
05:11:19,100 --> 05:11:21,100
demanding, but often done

6319
05:11:21,100 --> 05:11:23,100
without recognition, the

6320
05:11:23,100 --> 05:11:25,100
recognition they so richly

6321
05:11:25,100 --> 05:11:27,100
deserve. This week gives us an

6322
05:11:27,100 --> 05:11:30,100
opportunity to change that and

6323
05:11:30,100 --> 05:11:32,100
really pause and reflect and

6324
05:11:32,100 --> 05:11:34,100
express our sincere gratitude

6325
05:11:34,100 --> 05:11:36,100
for their contributions

6326
05:11:36,100 --> 05:11:38,100
to our community, our community

6327
05:11:38,100 --> 05:11:40,100
that we are raising our kids

6328
05:11:40,100 --> 05:11:43,100
in. And I agree, appreciation

6329
05:11:43,100 --> 05:11:45,100
alone is not enough. Farm

6330
05:11:45,100 --> 05:11:48,100
Worker Week also calls on us to

6331
05:11:48,100 --> 05:11:50,100
ensure that farm workers have

6332
05:11:50,100 --> 05:11:52,100
fair wages and working

6333
05:11:52,100 --> 05:11:55,100
conditions and homes they can

6334
05:11:55,100 --> 05:11:57,401
move into without having

6335
05:11:59,100 --> 05:12:00,100
to jump through hoops. Their

6336
05:12:00,100 --> 05:12:02,401
wellbeing is directly connected

6337
05:12:03,100 --> 05:12:04,100
to our strength and our

6338
05:12:04,100 --> 05:12:07,100
resilience as a community. As

6339
05:12:08,100 --> 05:12:09,100
we present this Gold

6340
05:12:09,100 --> 05:12:11,401
Resolution, we are recommitting

6341
05:12:13,100 --> 05:12:15,100
and recognizing that we

6342
05:12:15,100 --> 05:12:18,100
understand and we see the vital

6343
05:12:18,100 --> 05:12:19,100
contributions that farm workers

6344
05:12:19,100 --> 05:12:21,100
make on our community every

6345
05:12:21,100 --> 05:12:24,100
single day, regardless of it

6346
05:12:24,100 --> 05:12:27,100
just being one week. I want

6347
05:12:27,100 --> 05:12:28,100
to encourage everyone here

6348
05:12:28,100 --> 05:12:30,100
to come back, please, on April

6349
05:12:30,100 --> 05:12:33,100
7th to see more tangible

6350
05:12:33,100 --> 05:12:35,100
recommitments

6351
05:12:35,100 --> 05:12:37,100
to our community that is

6352
05:12:37,100 --> 05:12:40,100
under attack. And if I may pass

6353
05:12:40,100 --> 05:12:43,100
the mic onto Vice Chair

6354
05:12:43,100 --> 05:12:46,100
Coursey to share about a

6355
05:12:47,100 --> 05:12:48,100
program that also is an example

6356
05:12:48,100 --> 05:12:49,100
of our recommitment

6357
05:12:49,100 --> 05:12:52,100
to our community. Vice Chair.

6358
05:12:53,100 --> 05:12:54,100
>> Thank you, Chair

6359
05:12:54,100 --> 05:12:56,100
Hermosillo. First of all,

6360
05:12:56,100 --> 05:12:57,100
I want to say welcome,

6361
05:12:57,100 --> 05:12:59,100
and it's nice to see Senor

6362
05:12:59,100 --> 05:13:02,100
Morales here again. It's been a

6363
05:13:02,100 --> 05:13:04,100
while

6364
05:13:04,100 --> 05:13:05,100
since we've seen you here

6365
05:13:05,100 --> 05:13:06,100
in front of the Board of

6366
05:13:06,100 --> 05:13:08,401
Supervisor s. I want

6367
05:13:10,100 --> 05:13:12,100
to acknowledge that, you know,

6368
05:13:12,100 --> 05:13:14,100
we've been hearing a lot

6369
05:13:14,100 --> 05:13:15,100
about farmworkers

6370
05:13:15,100 --> 05:13:17,100
in the past week,

6371
05:13:17,100 --> 05:13:19,100
about the farm worker movement,

6372
05:13:19,100 --> 05:13:20,100
about the leaders

6373
05:13:20,100 --> 05:13:21,100
of the farm worker movement.

6374
05:13:21,100 --> 05:13:22,100
Much

6375
05:13:22,100 --> 05:13:25,100
of that has been negative news.

6376
05:13:25,100 --> 05:13:28,601
Today we get to actually sit

6377
05:13:29,100 --> 05:13:32,100
down and celebrate farm workers

6378
05:13:32,100 --> 05:13:35,100
as farm workers should be

6379
05:13:35,100 --> 05:13:37,100
celebrated. You know,

6380
05:13:37,100 --> 05:13:39,100
we have a Farm Worker

6381
05:13:39,100 --> 05:13:40,100
Appreciation Week resolution.

6382
05:13:40,100 --> 05:13:42,100
We should all appreciate

6383
05:13:42,100 --> 05:13:44,100
farmers every day. They are the

6384
05:13:44,100 --> 05:13:45,100
backbone

6385
05:13:45,100 --> 05:13:47,100
of our agricultural community.

6386
05:13:47,100 --> 05:13:48,100
They are the backbone

6387
05:13:48,100 --> 05:13:51,601
of our community. And I just

6388
05:13:54,100 --> 05:13:55,100
want to mention, when farm

6389
05:13:55,100 --> 05:13:57,100
workers actually get a paid day

6390
05:13:57,100 --> 05:14:00,601
off, a paid holiday on Farm

6391
05:14:01,100 --> 05:14:02,100
Workers Day, then we will

6392
05:14:02,100 --> 05:14:04,100
succeed in treating farm

6393
05:14:04,100 --> 05:14:06,100
workers as we should be.

6394
05:14:06,100 --> 05:14:09,100
There's been mention about, I

6395
05:14:11,100 --> 05:14:13,100
guess, performative support

6396
05:14:13,100 --> 05:14:16,100
for farm workers showing up

6397
05:14:17,100 --> 05:14:18,100
at events for pictures or doing

6398
05:14:18,100 --> 05:14:21,601
resolutions. I want you all to

6399
05:14:22,100 --> 05:14:23,100
know that this board has

6400
05:14:23,100 --> 05:14:25,401
provided tangible support and

6401
05:14:27,100 --> 05:14:29,100
will continue

6402
05:14:29,100 --> 05:14:31,100
to supply tangible support

6403
05:14:31,100 --> 05:14:32,100
for farm workers. Supervisor

6404
05:14:32,100 --> 05:14:34,100
Hermosillo talked

6405
05:14:34,100 --> 05:14:36,100
about next month. The date is

6406
05:14:36,100 --> 05:14:37,100
the

6407
05:14:37,100 --> 05:14:38,100
>> April 7th.

6408
05:14:38,100 --> 05:14:39,100
>> The seventh,

6409
05:14:39,100 --> 05:14:40,100
which is our next meeting,

6410
05:14:40,100 --> 05:14:41,100
because we're skipping next

6411
05:14:41,100 --> 05:14:43,100
week. At our next meeting,

6412
05:14:43,100 --> 05:14:45,100
we'll be deploying two mobile

6413
05:14:45,100 --> 05:14:48,100
vans that will be bringing

6414
05:14:49,100 --> 05:14:50,100
services out

6415
05:14:50,100 --> 05:14:51,100
into the community

6416
05:14:51,100 --> 05:14:53,100
for farm workers and others in

6417
05:14:53,100 --> 05:14:55,100
the community who are not able

6418
05:14:55,100 --> 05:14:57,100
to access health services,

6419
05:14:57,100 --> 05:14:59,100
human services, child support

6420
05:14:59,100 --> 05:15:01,100
services, other services that

6421
05:15:01,100 --> 05:15:03,100
the county offers here

6422
05:15:03,100 --> 05:15:05,100
on our county campus and

6423
05:15:05,100 --> 05:15:06,100
in county buildings around,

6424
05:15:06,100 --> 05:15:08,100
mostly around Santa Rosa and

6425
05:15:08,100 --> 05:15:10,401
Guerneville and east county

6426
05:15:12,100 --> 05:15:14,100
also. But the idea is

6427
05:15:14,100 --> 05:15:16,100
to bring the services

6428
05:15:16,100 --> 05:15:17,100
to the people who need them,

6429
05:15:17,100 --> 05:15:20,100
where those people are. That

6430
05:15:20,100 --> 05:15:21,100
includes farm workers and

6431
05:15:21,100 --> 05:15:23,100
anyone else who isn't able

6432
05:15:23,100 --> 05:15:26,100
to access services here. We've

6433
05:15:27,100 --> 05:15:29,100
also put aside resources and

6434
05:15:29,100 --> 05:15:31,401
put our lobbying efforts

6435
05:15:32,100 --> 05:15:35,100
into reopening what at the

6436
05:15:35,100 --> 05:15:38,100
state level is called the

6437
05:15:39,100 --> 05:15:40,100
Farmworker Resource Center

6438
05:15:40,100 --> 05:15:42,401
Pilot program, which would

6439
05:15:43,100 --> 05:15:45,100
perhaps bring more mobile

6440
05:15:45,100 --> 05:15:46,100
resources

6441
05:15:46,100 --> 05:15:48,100
for farm workers directly

6442
05:15:48,100 --> 05:15:49,100
to farm workers

6443
05:15:49,100 --> 05:15:50,100
in the county, perhaps have a

6444
05:15:50,100 --> 05:15:53,100
brick and mortar spot for farm

6445
05:15:53,100 --> 05:15:54,100
workers devoted directly

6446
05:15:54,100 --> 05:15:56,100
to farm workers somewhere

6447
05:15:56,100 --> 05:15:58,100
in the county. We're hoping

6448
05:15:58,100 --> 05:16:00,100
for the state

6449
05:16:00,100 --> 05:16:01,100
to redo that program that

6450
05:16:01,100 --> 05:16:03,100
exists

6451
05:16:04,100 --> 05:16:05,100
in a few other counties. We've

6452
05:16:05,100 --> 05:16:07,100
put some work into that,

6453
05:16:07,100 --> 05:16:08,100
and we hope to have more news

6454
05:16:08,100 --> 05:16:10,100
about that

6455
05:16:10,100 --> 05:16:11,100
from the legislature, perhaps

6456
05:16:11,100 --> 05:16:13,401
on Farm Worker Day

6457
05:16:15,100 --> 05:16:16,100
on the 31st. That would be

6458
05:16:16,100 --> 05:16:18,100
great to have it then.

6459
05:16:18,100 --> 05:16:20,100
Anyway, again, thank you

6460
05:16:20,100 --> 05:16:22,100
for being here today. Thanks

6461
05:16:22,100 --> 05:16:24,100
for your words, thanks

6462
05:16:24,100 --> 05:16:25,100
for your presence, and

6463
05:16:25,100 --> 05:16:27,100
for all farm workers,

6464
05:16:27,100 --> 05:16:30,100
thank you for your work.

6465
05:16:34,100 --> 05:16:35,100
>> And with that, thank you,

6466
05:16:35,100 --> 05:16:38,100
and let's do a photo.

6467
05:19:56,100 --> 05:19:57,100
>> Or so for moving on

6468
05:19:57,100 --> 05:19:59,100
to item number 48.

6469
05:19:59,100 --> 05:20:00,100
>> You're right.

6470
05:20:00,100 --> 05:20:02,100
>> Agenda item 48. So this is a

6471
05:20:02,100 --> 05:20:03,100
Z removal

6472
05:20:03,100 --> 05:20:04,100
to allow the construction

6473
05:20:04,100 --> 05:20:06,100
of an accessory dwelling unit

6474
05:20:06,100 --> 05:20:08,100
in the future. It meets all

6475
05:20:08,100 --> 05:20:09,100
requirements of the action,

6476
05:20:09,100 --> 05:20:12,100
and we offer to wave the

6477
05:20:12,100 --> 05:20:14,100
presentation provided public

6478
05:20:14,100 --> 05:20:16,100
comment and we can answer any

6479
05:20:16,100 --> 05:20:17,100
questions as needed. Thank you.

6480
05:20:17,100 --> 05:20:19,100
>> We like those offers. Often

6481
05:20:19,100 --> 05:20:21,100
make it more

6482
05:20:21,100 --> 05:20:24,100
of a regular practice. Just

6483
05:20:24,100 --> 05:20:27,100
kidding. I know. Good job.

6484
05:20:27,100 --> 05:20:28,100
We're going to go

6485
05:20:28,100 --> 05:20:29,100
to public comment

6486
05:20:29,100 --> 05:20:31,100
on item number 48. The zone

6487
05:20:31,100 --> 05:20:33,100
change to remove the Z overlay

6488
05:20:33,100 --> 05:20:35,100
for Lytton Station

6489
05:20:35,100 --> 05:20:38,100
Geyserville. Oh. Open a public

6490
05:20:38,100 --> 05:20:40,100
hearing. Officially open the

6491
05:20:40,100 --> 05:20:42,100
public hearing. Is there any

6492
05:20:42,100 --> 05:20:44,100
comments on this agenda item?

6493
05:20:44,100 --> 05:20:47,601
Seeing no one raced to the

6494
05:20:48,100 --> 05:20:50,100
podium. I'll bring it back

6495
05:20:50,100 --> 05:20:51,100
to my colleagues

6496
05:20:51,100 --> 05:20:52,100
for questions. Comments.

6497
05:20:52,100 --> 05:20:53,100
Supervisor Gore.

6498
05:20:53,100 --> 05:20:54,100
>> How many

6499
05:20:54,100 --> 05:20:56,100
of these are left?

6500
05:20:56,100 --> 05:20:57,100
>> There are still thousands.

6501
05:20:57,100 --> 05:21:00,100
>> And just remind me why did

6502
05:21:00,100 --> 05:21:01,100
we approve to not do this

6503
05:21:01,100 --> 05:21:03,100
for thousands? But I mean the

6504
05:21:03,100 --> 05:21:04,100
only thing that this is doing

6505
05:21:04,100 --> 05:21:06,100
effectively is keeping certain

6506
05:21:06,100 --> 05:21:07,100
permit processors

6507
05:21:07,100 --> 05:21:09,100
in business. Which is. Okay.

6508
05:21:09,100 --> 05:21:11,100
>> So through the chair

6509
05:21:11,100 --> 05:21:13,100
on the key issues calendar

6510
05:21:13,100 --> 05:21:15,100
for November 2026 will be the

6511
05:21:15,100 --> 05:21:17,100
comprehensive removal

6512
05:21:17,100 --> 05:21:19,100
of the rest of the Z's.

6513
05:21:19,100 --> 05:21:20,100
>> Okay. Okay.

6514
05:21:20,100 --> 05:21:21,100
>> Will you waive the

6515
05:21:21,100 --> 05:21:22,100
presentation then?

6516
05:21:22,100 --> 05:21:24,100
>> Thank you.

6517
05:21:26,100 --> 05:21:28,401
>> How about a comment?

6518
05:21:29,100 --> 05:21:30,100
>> Just kidding. Seeing no

6519
05:21:30,100 --> 05:21:32,100
other comments

6520
05:21:32,100 --> 05:21:34,100
from my colleagues. Questions

6521
05:21:34,100 --> 05:21:37,100
closing the hearing. Bring it

6522
05:21:37,100 --> 05:21:38,100
back to the board. Again, no

6523
05:21:38,100 --> 05:21:40,100
questions, comments.

6524
05:21:40,100 --> 05:21:42,100
>> Is there a motion move

6525
05:21:42,100 --> 05:21:43,100
to approve?

6526
05:21:43,100 --> 05:21:45,100
>> Second.

6527
05:21:47,100 --> 05:21:49,100
>> Do you need. We need a roll

6528
05:21:49,100 --> 05:21:51,100
call vote.

6529
05:21:53,100 --> 05:21:54,100
>> Supervisor Rabbitt?

6530
05:21:54,100 --> 05:21:55,100
>> Aye.

6531
05:21:55,100 --> 05:21:56,100
>> Supervisor Coursey?

6532
05:21:56,100 --> 05:21:57,100
>> Yes.

6533
05:21:57,100 --> 05:21:58,100
>> Supervisor Gore?

6534
05:21:58,100 --> 05:21:59,100
>> Yes.

6535
05:21:59,100 --> 05:22:00,100
>> Supervisor Hopkins?

6536
05:22:00,100 --> 05:22:01,100
>> Yes.

6537
05:22:01,100 --> 05:22:03,100
>> Chair Hermosillo?

6538
05:22:03,100 --> 05:22:05,100
>> Yes. Thank you. And

6539
05:22:05,100 --> 05:22:08,100
with that the motion passes.

6540
05:22:09,100 --> 05:22:10,100
Thank you all. We are going

6541
05:22:10,100 --> 05:22:12,100
to move on

6542
05:22:12,100 --> 05:22:15,100
to agenda item number 49. The

6543
05:22:15,100 --> 05:22:16,100
Neighborhood Parks Workshop.

6544
05:22:16,100 --> 05:22:18,401
And Director Whitaker. Scott

6545
05:22:19,100 --> 05:22:21,100
Orr Misty Arias and Johannes.

6546
05:22:21,100 --> 05:22:23,100
Where's Johannes?

6547
05:22:28,100 --> 05:22:29,100
>> And I'll start it.

6548
05:22:29,100 --> 05:22:30,100
>> CEO Rivera will start us.

6549
05:22:30,100 --> 05:22:32,100
Thank you.

6550
05:22:33,100 --> 05:22:34,100
>> Are you guys looking

6551
05:22:34,100 --> 05:22:35,100
for technical assistance

6552
05:22:35,100 --> 05:22:37,100
over there?

6553
05:22:37,100 --> 05:22:38,100
>> Okay. Scott has it. Got it.

6554
05:22:38,100 --> 05:22:40,100
Very good.

6555
05:22:40,100 --> 05:22:43,100
>> Chair is there. I can frame

6556
05:22:43,100 --> 05:22:45,100
it and then I'll give it back

6557
05:22:45,100 --> 05:22:47,100
to you in case you want

6558
05:22:47,100 --> 05:22:49,100
to manage public comment.

6559
05:22:49,100 --> 05:22:50,100
>> Yes, please.

6560
05:22:50,100 --> 05:22:52,100
>> Wonderful. Thank you. So I'd

6561
05:22:52,100 --> 05:22:53,100
like to frame it. This is an

6562
05:22:53,100 --> 05:22:55,100
item coming back to the board

6563
05:22:55,100 --> 05:22:56,100
to have a discussion about

6564
05:22:56,100 --> 05:22:57,100
neighborhood parks which is an

6565
05:22:57,100 --> 05:22:58,100
important community asset that

6566
05:22:58,100 --> 05:23:00,100
has been sprouting

6567
05:23:00,100 --> 05:23:01,100
in our different neighborhoods.

6568
05:23:01,100 --> 05:23:03,100
They support health,

6569
05:23:04,100 --> 05:23:05,100
connection and quality

6570
05:23:05,100 --> 05:23:06,100
of life. And today's workshop

6571
05:23:06,100 --> 05:23:07,100
is an opportunity to align and

6572
05:23:07,100 --> 05:23:09,100
get clear understanding

6573
05:23:09,100 --> 05:23:11,100
from the board

6574
05:23:11,100 --> 05:23:13,100
of how we can improve

6575
05:23:13,100 --> 05:23:14,100
on this axis and how it aligns

6576
05:23:14,100 --> 05:23:17,100
with our plans in the

6577
05:23:18,100 --> 05:23:20,100
unincorporated areas. I want

6578
05:23:20,100 --> 05:23:22,100
to thank the staff. This is a

6579
05:23:22,100 --> 05:23:23,100
multi-department effort. So

6580
05:23:23,100 --> 05:23:25,100
this is Wonderful, because

6581
05:23:25,100 --> 05:23:26,100
you'll see the quality

6582
05:23:26,100 --> 05:23:28,100
of the information. We're going

6583
05:23:28,100 --> 05:23:29,100
to lay out the information as

6584
05:23:29,100 --> 05:23:30,100
we know it, and like I said,

6585
05:23:30,100 --> 05:23:31,100
we're going to provide most

6586
05:23:31,100 --> 05:23:33,100
of the time for the board to

6587
05:23:33,100 --> 05:23:35,100
have a discussion and provide

6588
05:23:35,100 --> 05:23:37,100
us direction. We are looking

6589
05:23:37,100 --> 05:23:38,100
for your board guidance,

6590
05:23:38,100 --> 05:23:40,100
specifically your feedback

6591
05:23:40,100 --> 05:23:41,100
on how to prioritize this,

6592
05:23:41,100 --> 05:23:44,100
particularly in how the county

6593
05:23:44,100 --> 05:23:46,100
should focus its role in its

6594
05:23:46,100 --> 05:23:48,100
limited resources towards this

6595
05:23:48,100 --> 05:23:51,100
goal. This is the beginning

6596
05:23:51,100 --> 05:23:52,100
of the conversation in

6597
05:23:52,100 --> 05:23:54,100
addressing neighborhood parks

6598
05:23:55,100 --> 05:23:56,100
needs and will require

6599
05:23:56,100 --> 05:23:57,100
sustained coordination,

6600
05:23:57,100 --> 05:23:58,100
partnerships and continued

6601
05:23:58,100 --> 05:23:59,100
discussion. We expect you will

6602
05:23:59,100 --> 05:24:01,100
need more information,

6603
05:24:03,100 --> 05:24:04,100
and we'll be happy

6604
05:24:04,100 --> 05:24:05,100
to provide it, but this will

6605
05:24:05,100 --> 05:24:06,100
give us a little bit more

6606
05:24:06,100 --> 05:24:07,100
refined tool

6607
05:24:07,100 --> 05:24:08,100
to figure that out. Finally, I

6608
05:24:08,100 --> 05:24:09,100
want to recognize that this

6609
05:24:09,100 --> 05:24:11,100
conversation did start, start

6610
05:24:11,100 --> 05:24:14,100
with the unincorporated ad hoc

6611
05:24:14,100 --> 05:24:16,100
committee, which it was one

6612
05:24:16,100 --> 05:24:17,100
of the topics of discussion.

6613
05:24:17,100 --> 05:24:19,100
The board has heard that in

6614
05:24:19,100 --> 05:24:20,100
their scope and it has raised

6615
05:24:20,100 --> 05:24:21,100
important questions

6616
05:24:21,100 --> 05:24:22,100
about district,

6617
05:24:22,100 --> 05:24:24,100
about possibilities of district

6618
05:24:24,100 --> 05:24:25,100
formation and the different

6619
05:24:25,100 --> 05:24:27,100
ways in which our

6620
05:24:27,100 --> 05:24:28,100
unincorporated communities are

6621
05:24:28,100 --> 05:24:29,100
finding ways

6622
05:24:29,100 --> 05:24:30,100
to create these assets

6623
05:24:30,100 --> 05:24:32,100
on their own. So again,

6624
05:24:32,100 --> 05:24:33,100
we'll be looking

6625
05:24:33,100 --> 05:24:34,100
for your guidance. And

6626
05:24:34,100 --> 05:24:35,100
with that, I will pass it back

6627
05:24:35,100 --> 05:24:37,100
to the chair.

6628
05:24:38,100 --> 05:24:39,100
>> Great. Thank you. And give

6629
05:24:39,100 --> 05:24:41,100
me one second.

6630
05:24:48,100 --> 05:24:50,100
>> Great.

6631
05:24:50,100 --> 05:24:51,100
>> We're going

6632
05:24:51,100 --> 05:24:52,100
to do things a little bit out

6633
05:24:52,100 --> 05:24:53,100
of order. I know there's some

6634
05:24:53,100 --> 05:24:56,100
folks in the audience. If you

6635
05:24:56,100 --> 05:24:57,100
are here and you would like to

6636
05:24:57,100 --> 05:24:58,100
provide public comment and need

6637
05:24:58,100 --> 05:25:00,100
to leave, if you could, please

6638
05:25:00,100 --> 05:25:01,100
raise your hand so I can get a

6639
05:25:01,100 --> 05:25:02,100
sense for how many folks are

6640
05:25:02,100 --> 05:25:03,100
here that needs to shimmy

6641
05:25:03,100 --> 05:25:05,100
on out. Okay, great. If you can

6642
05:25:05,100 --> 05:25:08,100
get in line, everyone will have

6643
05:25:08,100 --> 05:25:09,100
two minutes and then we'll go

6644
05:25:09,100 --> 05:25:12,100
to the presentation. I know

6645
05:25:12,100 --> 05:25:13,100
we're doing it a little

6646
05:25:13,100 --> 05:25:14,100
backwards, but we'd like

6647
05:25:14,100 --> 05:25:15,100
to hear from constituents

6648
05:25:15,100 --> 05:25:16,100
before they have to run,

6649
05:25:16,100 --> 05:25:20,201
if you can. Yes, there will be

6650
05:25:21,100 --> 05:25:23,100
after the presentation. So if

6651
05:25:23,100 --> 05:25:24,100
you're not in a rush,

6652
05:25:24,100 --> 05:25:26,100
hang tight. We'll listen to the

6653
05:25:26,100 --> 05:25:27,100
presentation and then we can go

6654
05:25:27,100 --> 05:25:29,100
from there. If you have

6655
05:25:29,100 --> 05:25:31,100
comments, please get

6656
05:25:31,100 --> 05:25:34,601
in line right now. They're not

6657
05:25:35,100 --> 05:25:36,100
going

6658
05:25:36,100 --> 05:25:37,100
to waive the presentation,

6659
05:25:37,100 --> 05:25:39,100
so I'm going to say 10 minutes.

6660
05:25:39,100 --> 05:25:41,401
10 minutes. Does nobody need

6661
05:25:45,100 --> 05:25:47,100
to speak now? Okay, great.

6662
05:25:47,100 --> 05:25:49,401
Thank you. Go ahead.

6663
05:25:52,100 --> 05:25:54,100
>> All right. Good afternoon.

6664
05:25:54,100 --> 05:25:55,100
Thank you

6665
05:25:55,100 --> 05:25:56,100
for the introduction, CEO

6666
05:25:56,100 --> 05:25:57,100
Rivera. And thank you, Chair

6667
05:25:57,100 --> 05:25:59,100
Hermosillo. Board Members,

6668
05:25:59,100 --> 05:26:02,100
Council Myers. So, my name is

6669
05:26:02,100 --> 05:26:04,100
Bert Whitaker. I'm the director

6670
05:26:04,100 --> 05:26:06,100
of Sonoma County Regional

6671
05:26:06,100 --> 05:26:07,100
Parks. And just a quick

6672
05:26:07,100 --> 05:26:09,100
overview of our role. So the

6673
05:26:09,100 --> 05:26:10,100
Regional park system today

6674
05:26:10,100 --> 05:26:11,100
encompasses over 60 facilities

6675
05:26:11,100 --> 05:26:13,100
managing nearly 20,000 acres.

6676
05:26:13,100 --> 05:26:15,100
These are predominantly larger

6677
05:26:15,100 --> 05:26:16,100
parks for residents and

6678
05:26:16,100 --> 05:26:17,100
regional visitors

6679
05:26:17,100 --> 05:26:18,100
to gain access

6680
05:26:18,100 --> 05:26:19,100
to open spaces,

6681
05:26:19,100 --> 05:26:20,100
trails and outdoor recreation.

6682
05:26:20,100 --> 05:26:22,100
They protect unique county

6683
05:26:22,100 --> 05:26:24,100
natural and color cultural

6684
05:26:24,100 --> 05:26:25,100
resources and provide access

6685
05:26:25,100 --> 05:26:26,100
to our coast and Russian river

6686
05:26:26,100 --> 05:26:29,100
and the county wide bikeways

6687
05:26:29,100 --> 05:26:30,100
and regional trails we have

6688
05:26:30,100 --> 05:26:31,100
developed connect our

6689
05:26:31,100 --> 05:26:32,100
communities to one another and

6690
05:26:32,100 --> 05:26:34,100
the surrounding open spaces.

6691
05:26:34,100 --> 05:26:35,100
Scott, you want

6692
05:26:35,100 --> 05:26:38,100
to do a quick intro?

6693
05:26:39,100 --> 05:26:40,100
>> Good afternoon,

6694
05:26:40,100 --> 05:26:41,100
everybody. I'm Scott Orr, the

6695
05:26:41,100 --> 05:26:43,401
director for permit Sonoma.

6696
05:26:45,100 --> 05:26:47,100
>> I'm Misty Adias. I'm the

6697
05:26:47,100 --> 05:26:48,100
general manager for Sonoma

6698
05:26:48,100 --> 05:26:49,100
County Agricultural

6699
05:26:49,100 --> 05:26:50,100
Preservation and Open Space

6700
05:26:50,100 --> 05:26:52,100
District.

6701
05:26:52,100 --> 05:26:53,100
>> And anticipated to be

6702
05:26:53,100 --> 05:26:54,100
with us was Johannes Hovric,

6703
05:26:54,100 --> 05:26:55,100
our director

6704
05:26:55,100 --> 05:26:57,100
of public infrastructure. And I

6705
05:26:57,100 --> 05:26:58,100
just texted him. Any word.

6706
05:26:58,100 --> 05:27:00,100
>> Okay.

6707
05:27:01,100 --> 05:27:02,100
>> All right, so let's talk

6708
05:27:02,100 --> 05:27:04,100
about parks a little bit. So

6709
05:27:04,100 --> 05:27:05,100
in Sonoma County, we've got a

6710
05:27:05,100 --> 05:27:07,100
wide variety of types

6711
05:27:07,100 --> 05:27:08,100
of parks. Okay, Just

6712
05:27:08,100 --> 05:27:09,100
to paint the picture here,

6713
05:27:09,100 --> 05:27:10,100
so we've got state parks,

6714
05:27:10,100 --> 05:27:12,100
we've got a number of them,

6715
05:27:12,100 --> 05:27:13,100
and they are rather large,

6716
05:27:13,100 --> 05:27:14,100
typically over 5,000 acres

6717
05:27:14,100 --> 05:27:15,100
in size. We've got regional

6718
05:27:15,100 --> 05:27:16,100
park system,

6719
05:27:16,100 --> 05:27:17,100
typically several hundred

6720
05:27:17,100 --> 05:27:18,100
acres, up to thousands

6721
05:27:18,100 --> 05:27:20,100
of acres in size. We've got a

6722
05:27:20,100 --> 05:27:21,100
variety of community parks,

6723
05:27:21,100 --> 05:27:23,401
typically 10 to 40 acres linear

6724
05:27:24,100 --> 05:27:26,100
parks, also known as bikeways

6725
05:27:26,100 --> 05:27:28,100
in many instances. And then we

6726
05:27:28,100 --> 05:27:30,100
have neighborhood parks. So

6727
05:27:30,100 --> 05:27:31,100
with the focus

6728
05:27:31,100 --> 05:27:33,100
on neighborhood parks, really

6729
05:27:33,100 --> 05:27:34,100
the general themes you see here

6730
05:27:34,100 --> 05:27:35,100
is they act as a recreational

6731
05:27:35,100 --> 05:27:36,100
and social hub

6732
05:27:36,100 --> 05:27:37,100
for the community. They are

6733
05:27:37,100 --> 05:27:38,100
smaller in scale than regional

6734
05:27:38,100 --> 05:27:40,100
or community parks,

6735
05:27:40,100 --> 05:27:42,100
typically less than 10 acres

6736
05:27:42,100 --> 05:27:44,100
and often much smaller than

6737
05:27:44,100 --> 05:27:45,100
that. They're

6738
05:27:45,100 --> 05:27:46,100
within walking distance to

6739
05:27:46,100 --> 05:27:48,100
neighborhoods or the population

6740
05:27:48,100 --> 05:27:49,100
the park is intended

6741
05:27:49,100 --> 05:27:50,100
to serve. And the focus is on

6742
05:27:50,100 --> 05:27:51,100
immediate neighborhood needs as

6743
05:27:51,100 --> 05:27:52,100
opposed to a countywide or

6744
05:27:52,100 --> 05:27:53,100
regional amenity. While

6745
05:27:53,100 --> 05:27:54,100
sometimes managed

6746
05:27:54,100 --> 05:27:55,100
by the county, neighborhood

6747
05:27:55,100 --> 05:27:57,100
parks are often maintained

6748
05:27:57,100 --> 05:27:58,100
by local park districts,

6749
05:27:58,100 --> 05:27:59,100
community service districts,

6750
05:27:59,100 --> 05:28:00,100
local nonprofits, or

6751
05:28:00,100 --> 05:28:01,100
neighborhood groups. I'll talk.

6752
05:28:01,100 --> 05:28:04,100
Turn over here to Director

6753
05:28:05,100 --> 05:28:07,100
Orr.

6754
05:28:08,100 --> 05:28:09,100
>> Thank you very much. So this

6755
05:28:09,100 --> 05:28:12,100
is another good example of how

6756
05:28:12,100 --> 05:28:14,100
the general plan affects pretty

6757
05:28:14,100 --> 05:28:16,100
much everything we talk about

6758
05:28:16,100 --> 05:28:18,100
on anything, whether it's

6759
05:28:18,100 --> 05:28:20,100
airports or today parks. And so

6760
05:28:20,100 --> 05:28:22,100
our public facilities element

6761
05:28:22,100 --> 05:28:23,100
in Our General Plan 2020 does

6762
05:28:23,100 --> 05:28:25,100
reference the importance

6763
05:28:25,100 --> 05:28:28,601
of parks. And I do want

6764
05:28:29,100 --> 05:28:30,100
to make it clear that we, it

6765
05:28:30,100 --> 05:28:31,100
says, assure that park and

6766
05:28:31,100 --> 05:28:33,100
recreation. We do have more

6767
05:28:33,100 --> 05:28:35,100
than one park. But this is the

6768
05:28:35,100 --> 05:28:37,100
verbatim language in our 2020

6769
05:28:37,100 --> 05:28:39,100
general plan.

6770
05:28:39,100 --> 05:28:41,100
But more recently, this last

6771
05:28:41,100 --> 05:28:42,100
summer, the board adopted a new

6772
05:28:42,100 --> 05:28:44,100
environmental justice element,

6773
05:28:44,100 --> 05:28:45,100
which tasks the county staff

6774
05:28:45,100 --> 05:28:47,100
to coordinate

6775
05:28:47,100 --> 05:28:50,100
with each other. So we are here

6776
05:28:50,100 --> 05:28:52,100
today coordinating

6777
05:28:52,100 --> 05:28:53,100
with each other. It's usually a

6778
05:28:53,100 --> 05:28:54,100
good sign that we are carrying

6779
05:28:54,100 --> 05:28:56,100
forth what's

6780
05:28:56,100 --> 05:28:59,100
in the general plan. The way

6781
05:28:59,100 --> 05:29:00,100
that the general plan most

6782
05:29:00,100 --> 05:29:02,100
directly interacts

6783
05:29:02,100 --> 05:29:05,100
with parks is, at least

6784
05:29:05,100 --> 05:29:06,100
through my office is

6785
05:29:06,100 --> 05:29:08,100
through the permitting process.

6786
05:29:08,100 --> 05:29:09,100
So one of the things that will

6787
05:29:09,100 --> 05:29:10,100
be an important discussion as

6788
05:29:10,100 --> 05:29:11,100
part

6789
05:29:11,100 --> 05:29:12,100
of the upcoming general plan

6790
05:29:12,100 --> 05:29:14,100
Is, you know, how do we want to

6791
05:29:14,100 --> 05:29:15,100
make it easier or reduce

6792
05:29:15,100 --> 05:29:17,100
barriers

6793
05:29:17,100 --> 05:29:18,100
for things that we want

6794
05:29:18,100 --> 05:29:20,100
to see. So one example

6795
05:29:20,100 --> 05:29:21,100
of this is right now,

6796
05:29:21,100 --> 05:29:22,100
someone needs to go

6797
05:29:22,100 --> 05:29:23,100
through a use permit process in

6798
05:29:23,100 --> 05:29:25,100
every single zoning district if

6799
05:29:25,100 --> 05:29:26,100
they want to make a park

6800
05:29:26,100 --> 05:29:27,100
in their neighborhood. So we

6801
05:29:27,100 --> 05:29:29,100
know that that's a time

6802
05:29:29,100 --> 05:29:31,100
consuming, arduous process. So

6803
05:29:31,100 --> 05:29:32,100
it's something that we expect

6804
05:29:32,100 --> 05:29:34,100
to talk about

6805
05:29:34,100 --> 05:29:35,100
during the general plan.

6806
05:29:35,100 --> 05:29:36,100
Another thing that the

6807
05:29:36,100 --> 05:29:38,100
environmental justice element

6808
05:29:38,100 --> 05:29:40,100
tasks us with looking at is

6809
05:29:40,100 --> 05:29:42,100
utilizing underutilized spaces

6810
05:29:46,100 --> 05:29:47,100
such as public rights of way.

6811
05:29:47,100 --> 05:29:48,100
And so some

6812
05:29:48,100 --> 05:29:49,100
of the examples that are going

6813
05:29:49,100 --> 05:29:50,100
to be covered today by Sonoma

6814
05:29:50,100 --> 05:29:51,100
county public infrastructure

6815
05:29:51,100 --> 05:29:54,100
are showing how we're already

6816
05:29:55,100 --> 05:29:56,100
doing that, which is another

6817
05:29:56,100 --> 05:29:57,100
good sign that the content

6818
05:29:57,100 --> 05:29:58,100
in the general plan aligns with

6819
05:29:58,100 --> 05:29:59,100
what we're prioritizing today.

6820
05:29:59,100 --> 05:30:01,100
And then I'd also like

6821
05:30:01,100 --> 05:30:02,100
to add that just

6822
05:30:02,100 --> 05:30:03,100
to make sure that someone

6823
05:30:03,100 --> 05:30:04,100
from Permit Sonoma hears all

6824
05:30:04,100 --> 05:30:07,100
of public comment, I'm going

6825
05:30:07,100 --> 05:30:08,100
to be switching with Deputy

6826
05:30:08,100 --> 05:30:09,100
Director of Planning Cecily

6827
05:30:09,100 --> 05:30:11,100
Condon, because I have a

6828
05:30:11,100 --> 05:30:13,100
conflict for the rest

6829
05:30:13,100 --> 05:30:14,100
of the day.

6830
05:30:14,100 --> 05:30:15,100
>> Thank you.

6831
05:30:15,100 --> 05:30:16,100
>> Great. Thank you, Scott. So

6832
05:30:16,100 --> 05:30:17,100
across Sonoma County, there are

6833
05:30:17,100 --> 05:30:18,100
a lot of local examples

6834
05:30:18,100 --> 05:30:20,100
of how parks are created,

6835
05:30:20,100 --> 05:30:21,100
created and operated. The

6836
05:30:21,100 --> 05:30:23,100
primary provider of

6837
05:30:23,100 --> 05:30:24,100
neighborhood parks actually are

6838
05:30:24,100 --> 05:30:25,100
the nine incorporated cities

6839
05:30:25,100 --> 05:30:26,100
and

6840
05:30:26,100 --> 05:30:28,100
in the unincorporated areas.

6841
05:30:28,100 --> 05:30:29,100
Public agency led parks include

6842
05:30:29,100 --> 05:30:31,100
park districts. We have three

6843
05:30:31,100 --> 05:30:32,100
park districts in Sonoma

6844
05:30:32,100 --> 05:30:33,100
County and Camp Meeker,

6845
05:30:33,100 --> 05:30:35,100
Monterillo and Russian river.

6846
05:30:35,100 --> 05:30:36,100
And those are funded

6847
05:30:36,100 --> 05:30:37,100
with parcel taxes and

6848
05:30:37,100 --> 05:30:38,100
from their service areas. The

6849
05:30:38,100 --> 05:30:40,100
regional park system does

6850
05:30:40,100 --> 05:30:41,100
provide some

6851
05:30:41,100 --> 05:30:43,100
of these services,

6852
05:30:43,100 --> 05:30:44,100
primarily because of two

6853
05:30:44,100 --> 05:30:45,100
dissolved park districts, the

6854
05:30:45,100 --> 05:30:46,100
Del Rio woods and the Valley

6855
05:30:46,100 --> 05:30:48,100
of the Moon park and

6856
05:30:48,100 --> 05:30:50,401
Rectangle District. The county

6857
05:30:52,100 --> 05:30:53,100
does receive some revenues

6858
05:30:53,100 --> 05:30:54,100
to help offset operating costs

6859
05:30:54,100 --> 05:30:55,100
for those facilities. School

6860
05:30:55,100 --> 05:30:56,100
sites in our rural areas play

6861
05:30:56,100 --> 05:30:57,100
an important role providing

6862
05:30:57,100 --> 05:30:58,100
park spaces and state laws

6863
05:30:58,100 --> 05:30:59,100
require those facilities be

6864
05:30:59,100 --> 05:31:00,100
available when school is not

6865
05:31:00,100 --> 05:31:02,100
in session. Sonoma Water has

6866
05:31:02,100 --> 05:31:03,100
ownership

6867
05:31:03,100 --> 05:31:04,100
of multiple locations

6868
05:31:04,100 --> 05:31:05,100
with park services operated

6869
05:31:05,100 --> 05:31:06,100
by regional Parks and recently

6870
05:31:06,100 --> 05:31:08,100
acquired a location along

6871
05:31:08,100 --> 05:31:09,100
Mark West Creek in the Wikiup

6872
05:31:09,100 --> 05:31:11,100
area. And community service

6873
05:31:11,100 --> 05:31:12,100
districts that are able

6874
05:31:12,100 --> 05:31:14,100
to provide a mix of services,

6875
05:31:14,100 --> 05:31:15,100
commonly including water,

6876
05:31:15,100 --> 05:31:16,100
wastewater,

6877
05:31:16,100 --> 05:31:18,100
parks or street lighting. And

6878
05:31:18,100 --> 05:31:19,100
we have three

6879
05:31:19,100 --> 05:31:20,100
of those currently

6880
05:31:20,100 --> 05:31:21,100
in the county in Occidental,

6881
05:31:21,100 --> 05:31:22,100
Grayton and Cazadero. Notable

6882
05:31:22,100 --> 05:31:24,100
the Parmito park in Cazadero.

6883
05:31:24,100 --> 05:31:25,100
And our county public

6884
05:31:25,100 --> 05:31:27,100
infrastructure department

6885
05:31:27,100 --> 05:31:28,100
operates the Guerneville Plaza

6886
05:31:28,100 --> 05:31:29,100
and the Guerneville Community

6887
05:31:29,100 --> 05:31:30,100
Plaza. Development driven parks

6888
05:31:30,100 --> 05:31:32,100
are very common

6889
05:31:32,100 --> 05:31:34,401
in our incorporated cities,

6890
05:31:35,100 --> 05:31:36,100
but there are some good

6891
05:31:36,100 --> 05:31:37,100
examples in the unincorporated

6892
05:31:37,100 --> 05:31:39,100
areas as well. Most recently,

6893
05:31:39,100 --> 05:31:40,100
Helen Putnam Regional Park has

6894
05:31:40,100 --> 05:31:41,100
been expanded two times

6895
05:31:41,100 --> 05:31:43,100
with soon to have a third

6896
05:31:43,100 --> 05:31:44,100
expansion as nearby

6897
05:31:44,100 --> 05:31:45,100
subdivisions were created that

6898
05:31:45,100 --> 05:31:47,100
improved neighborhood access

6899
05:31:47,100 --> 05:31:48,100
to this regional facility.

6900
05:31:48,100 --> 05:31:50,401
The Fetter Springs Project

6901
05:31:51,100 --> 05:31:52,100
in the Sonoma Valley.

6902
05:31:52,100 --> 05:31:54,100
>> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Who

6903
05:31:54,100 --> 05:31:55,100
got that check? Did somebody do

6904
05:31:55,100 --> 05:31:56,100
the politician thing and like

6905
05:31:56,100 --> 05:31:58,100
get a check that they could

6906
05:31:58,100 --> 05:32:01,100
donate to right there? Yeah,

6907
05:32:03,100 --> 05:32:04,100
that's me.

6908
05:32:04,100 --> 05:32:06,100
>> We're not to that comment

6909
05:32:06,100 --> 05:32:07,100
yet. We'll get there, James.

6910
05:32:07,100 --> 05:32:08,100
>> Thank you, Supervisor

6911
05:32:08,100 --> 05:32:10,100
Gore.

6912
05:32:10,100 --> 05:32:11,100
>> Yep.

6913
05:32:11,100 --> 05:32:12,100
>> So the Federer's Hot Spring

6914
05:32:12,100 --> 05:32:13,100
project in the Sonoma Valley is

6915
05:32:13,100 --> 05:32:14,100
a modern example

6916
05:32:14,100 --> 05:32:15,100
of a development Creating

6917
05:32:15,100 --> 05:32:16,100
neighborhood parks that serve

6918
05:32:16,100 --> 05:32:18,100
the residents and regional

6919
05:32:18,100 --> 05:32:19,100
needs were also supported with

6920
05:32:19,100 --> 05:32:20,100
a developer incorporating and

6921
05:32:20,100 --> 05:32:22,100
building a section of the

6922
05:32:22,100 --> 05:32:24,401
Central Sonoma Valley Bikeway

6923
05:32:25,100 --> 05:32:26,100
Trail. Many

6924
05:32:26,100 --> 05:32:27,100
of the subdivisions in the

6925
05:32:27,100 --> 05:32:28,100
county have HOAs that support

6926
05:32:28,100 --> 05:32:30,100
neighborhood parks and projects

6927
05:32:30,100 --> 05:32:31,100
like the Sonoma Developmental

6928
05:32:31,100 --> 05:32:32,100
center will also have need

6929
05:32:32,100 --> 05:32:34,100
for neighborhood parks.

6930
05:32:34,100 --> 05:32:35,100
Community driven parks are also

6931
05:32:35,100 --> 05:32:36,100
quite common

6932
05:32:36,100 --> 05:32:37,100
across many communities with

6933
05:32:37,100 --> 05:32:38,100
local control and management

6934
05:32:38,100 --> 05:32:40,100
by nonprofit groups. Examples

6935
05:32:40,100 --> 05:32:42,100
include the Marquest Community

6936
05:32:42,100 --> 05:32:43,100
park shown here

6937
05:32:43,100 --> 05:32:45,100
in this photo. Very celebratory

6938
05:32:45,100 --> 05:32:47,100
experience. The Riverkeeper

6939
05:32:47,100 --> 05:32:49,401
park in downtown Guerneville

6940
05:32:50,100 --> 05:32:51,100
operated by the Russian

6941
05:32:51,100 --> 05:32:52,100
Riverkeeper, Our Great and

6942
05:32:52,100 --> 05:32:53,100
Green park operated by the

6943
05:32:53,100 --> 05:32:55,100
Great and Green group. The

6944
05:32:55,100 --> 05:32:56,100
Forestville Youth park and

6945
05:32:56,100 --> 05:32:58,100
nonprofit the Pen Grove park

6946
05:32:58,100 --> 05:32:59,100
managed

6947
05:32:59,100 --> 05:33:00,100
by the social firemen. The

6948
05:33:00,100 --> 05:33:01,100
Petaluma river park managed

6949
05:33:01,100 --> 05:33:03,100
by a foundation, number

6950
05:33:03,100 --> 05:33:05,100
of small facilities managed

6951
05:33:05,100 --> 05:33:06,100
by the Ecology center and

6952
05:33:06,100 --> 05:33:07,100
of course Bear Farm owned

6953
05:33:07,100 --> 05:33:09,100
by the city and operated by

6954
05:33:09,100 --> 05:33:11,100
Land Paths. Temporary pop-up

6955
05:33:11,100 --> 05:33:12,100
parks is not really a formal

6956
05:33:12,100 --> 05:33:13,100
category,

6957
05:33:13,100 --> 05:33:14,100
but this concept exists

6958
05:33:14,100 --> 05:33:15,100
in our communities. These are

6959
05:33:15,100 --> 05:33:16,100
temp facilities

6960
05:33:16,100 --> 05:33:18,100
with low cost, often used to

6961
05:33:18,100 --> 05:33:19,100
test a park or activate an

6962
05:33:19,100 --> 05:33:21,100
underused space. And a recent

6963
05:33:21,100 --> 05:33:22,100
example here is the Springs

6964
05:33:22,100 --> 05:33:24,100
Plaza where some trees and

6965
05:33:24,100 --> 05:33:25,100
picnic tables were installed

6966
05:33:25,100 --> 05:33:26,100
for the community

6967
05:33:26,100 --> 05:33:27,100
to utilize the parking lot

6968
05:33:27,100 --> 05:33:30,100
for that purpose. This chart

6969
05:33:31,100 --> 05:33:32,100
help details the most common

6970
05:33:32,100 --> 05:33:33,100
approaches across Bay Area

6971
05:33:33,100 --> 05:33:35,100
counties. Incorporated cities

6972
05:33:35,100 --> 05:33:36,100
are where you see the highest

6973
05:33:36,100 --> 05:33:37,100
concentration

6974
05:33:37,100 --> 05:33:39,100
of neighborhood type parks,

6975
05:33:39,100 --> 05:33:40,100
typically developed

6976
05:33:40,100 --> 05:33:41,100
with funding

6977
05:33:41,100 --> 05:33:42,100
from park impact fees or

6978
05:33:42,100 --> 05:33:43,100
by developers

6979
05:33:43,100 --> 05:33:44,100
with ongoing maintenance costs

6980
05:33:44,100 --> 05:33:45,100
from the General's operating

6981
05:33:45,100 --> 05:33:46,100
the city's general operating

6982
05:33:46,100 --> 05:33:48,100
funds.

6983
05:33:48,100 --> 05:33:49,100
In the unincorporated areas

6984
05:33:49,100 --> 05:33:50,100
of the Bay Area counties,

6985
05:33:50,100 --> 05:33:51,100
it is common to have local park

6986
05:33:51,100 --> 05:33:53,100
district districts, community

6987
05:33:53,100 --> 05:33:54,100
service districts or community

6988
05:33:54,100 --> 05:33:56,100
service areas. Also,

6989
05:33:56,100 --> 05:33:57,100
in some counties,

6990
05:33:57,100 --> 05:33:58,100
neighborhood parks are provided

6991
05:33:58,100 --> 05:33:59,100
through their parks department

6992
05:33:59,100 --> 05:34:01,100
or public works department.

6993
05:34:01,100 --> 05:34:02,100
Regional Park agencies and

6994
05:34:02,100 --> 05:34:03,100
districts are rarely a direct

6995
05:34:03,100 --> 05:34:05,100
provider. We do currently

6996
05:34:05,100 --> 05:34:06,100
operate several neighborhood

6997
05:34:06,100 --> 05:34:08,100
and community parks. Most

6998
05:34:08,100 --> 05:34:10,100
recently we developed Andy's

6999
05:34:10,100 --> 05:34:11,100
Unity Park in Southwest Santa

7000
05:34:11,100 --> 05:34:12,100
Rosa that is likely

7001
05:34:12,100 --> 05:34:13,100
to be included

7002
05:34:13,100 --> 05:34:14,100
in future annexations by the

7003
05:34:14,100 --> 05:34:17,100
city and open space districts.

7004
05:34:17,100 --> 05:34:18,100
Rare rarely play a direct role

7005
05:34:18,100 --> 05:34:19,100
in operating or maintaining

7006
05:34:19,100 --> 05:34:21,100
smaller facilities but can have

7007
05:34:21,100 --> 05:34:22,100
an indirect role such as the

7008
05:34:22,100 --> 05:34:23,100
Community Spaces Matching

7009
05:34:23,100 --> 05:34:24,100
Grant program administered

7010
05:34:24,100 --> 05:34:26,100
by our local AG and Open

7011
05:34:26,100 --> 05:34:28,100
Space. And before I turn this

7012
05:34:28,100 --> 05:34:29,100
over to Misty, just wanted to

7013
05:34:29,100 --> 05:34:30,100
make a final comment here that

7014
05:34:30,100 --> 05:34:31,100
it really is important as we've

7015
05:34:31,100 --> 05:34:32,100
done this research to see that

7016
05:34:32,100 --> 05:34:34,100
across our region, you know,

7017
05:34:34,100 --> 05:34:35,100
all agencies tend to see their

7018
05:34:35,100 --> 05:34:36,100
partnership and funding roles

7019
05:34:36,100 --> 05:34:37,100
growing to meet this needs

7020
05:34:37,100 --> 05:34:38,100
because they are very

7021
05:34:38,100 --> 05:34:40,100
important. Thank you.

7022
05:34:40,100 --> 05:34:42,100
>> Thanks, Bert.

7023
05:34:42,100 --> 05:34:44,100
>> So, as Bert just mentioned,

7024
05:34:44,100 --> 05:34:45,100
Ag and Opens and base. We have

7025
05:34:45,100 --> 05:34:47,100
a unique opportunity here in

7026
05:34:47,100 --> 05:34:48,100
Sonoma County because we're a

7027
05:34:48,100 --> 05:34:49,100
special district that was

7028
05:34:49,100 --> 05:34:50,100
created

7029
05:34:50,100 --> 05:34:51,100
by our visionary voters and

7030
05:34:51,100 --> 05:34:52,100
to conserve natural,

7031
05:34:52,100 --> 05:34:54,401
agricultural and open space

7032
05:34:55,100 --> 05:34:56,100
lands. And as a part

7033
05:34:56,100 --> 05:34:57,100
of that vision, they did ensure

7034
05:34:57,100 --> 05:34:58,100
that funds could go towards

7035
05:34:58,100 --> 05:35:00,401
matching grant or competitive

7036
05:35:01,100 --> 05:35:02,100
grants for urban or community

7037
05:35:02,100 --> 05:35:05,100
open space projects. And these,

7038
05:35:07,100 --> 05:35:08,100
these grants. So this is our

7039
05:35:08,100 --> 05:35:09,100
community spaces matching grant

7040
05:35:09,100 --> 05:35:11,100
program. These grants go

7041
05:35:11,100 --> 05:35:12,100
towards to nonprofit, public

7042
05:35:12,100 --> 05:35:14,100
agency and tribal partners

7043
05:35:14,100 --> 05:35:16,100
to realize open space projects

7044
05:35:16,100 --> 05:35:18,100
within or near communities that

7045
05:35:18,100 --> 05:35:19,100
could be incorporated cities or

7046
05:35:19,100 --> 05:35:20,100
unincorporated communities. We

7047
05:35:20,100 --> 05:35:22,100
prioritize funding

7048
05:35:23,100 --> 05:35:26,100
for projects that are in areas

7049
05:35:26,100 --> 05:35:27,100
that lack open space and parks.

7050
05:35:27,100 --> 05:35:29,100
And I'll show a little bit

7051
05:35:29,100 --> 05:35:30,100
about how we do that in a

7052
05:35:30,100 --> 05:35:32,100
moment. I think it's important

7053
05:35:32,100 --> 05:35:33,100
to note that we don't drive

7054
05:35:33,100 --> 05:35:34,100
these projects. We really

7055
05:35:34,100 --> 05:35:35,100
follow the community lead here

7056
05:35:35,100 --> 05:35:37,100
and, and applicants who are

7057
05:35:37,100 --> 05:35:39,401
advocating for projects that

7058
05:35:40,100 --> 05:35:41,100
are important and needed

7059
05:35:41,100 --> 05:35:43,100
in their communities. Our role

7060
05:35:43,100 --> 05:35:45,100
is to ensure that the land, it

7061
05:35:45,100 --> 05:35:47,100
remains open and undeveloped

7062
05:35:47,100 --> 05:35:48,100
and that our conservation goals

7063
05:35:48,100 --> 05:35:49,100
are met. And we provide funding

7064
05:35:49,100 --> 05:35:51,100
for planning, design,

7065
05:35:52,100 --> 05:35:53,100
construction and

7066
05:35:53,100 --> 05:35:55,100
implementation.

7067
05:35:56,100 --> 05:35:57,100
But these grants do not,

7068
05:35:57,100 --> 05:35:58,100
they do not provide funding for

7069
05:35:58,100 --> 05:36:00,100
ongoing operations and

7070
05:36:00,100 --> 05:36:01,100
maintenance

7071
05:36:01,100 --> 05:36:04,100
of these parks. I think, you

7072
05:36:04,100 --> 05:36:05,100
know, Bert got

7073
05:36:05,100 --> 05:36:06,100
into this a little bit, but

7074
05:36:06,100 --> 05:36:08,100
I'll share a couple high level

7075
05:36:08,100 --> 05:36:10,100
statistics and I won't go

7076
05:36:10,100 --> 05:36:11,100
into great detail

7077
05:36:11,100 --> 05:36:12,100
about the projects just

7078
05:36:12,100 --> 05:36:14,100
to spare us all some time.

7079
05:36:14,100 --> 05:36:15,100
But I did want

7080
05:36:15,100 --> 05:36:16,100
to highlight that through our

7081
05:36:16,100 --> 05:36:17,100
Community Spaces program,

7082
05:36:17,100 --> 05:36:18,100
we have completed 45 grant

7083
05:36:18,100 --> 05:36:20,100
projects awarding $33.4 million

7084
05:36:20,100 --> 05:36:22,100
in funding for these open space

7085
05:36:22,100 --> 05:36:23,100
community type projects. A

7086
05:36:23,100 --> 05:36:24,100
really unique opportunity

7087
05:36:24,100 --> 05:36:25,100
for those of us who live in

7088
05:36:25,100 --> 05:36:27,401
Sonoma County. And we're

7089
05:36:28,100 --> 05:36:29,100
currently working, working

7090
05:36:29,100 --> 05:36:31,100
on an additional 26 projects

7091
05:36:31,100 --> 05:36:33,100
totaling $23.8 million

7092
05:36:33,100 --> 05:36:35,100
in funding. And these

7093
05:36:35,100 --> 05:36:36,100
on the slide here,

7094
05:36:36,100 --> 05:36:37,100
you see some examples

7095
05:36:37,100 --> 05:36:39,100
of these projects. This is just

7096
05:36:39,100 --> 05:36:40,100
narrowing in

7097
05:36:40,100 --> 05:36:41,100
on projects that kind of meet

7098
05:36:41,100 --> 05:36:42,100
that neighborhood park

7099
05:36:42,100 --> 05:36:43,100
definition that Bert mentioned

7100
05:36:43,100 --> 05:36:45,100
earlier. And as Bert mentioned,

7101
05:36:45,100 --> 05:36:46,100
these are done in a myriad

7102
05:36:46,100 --> 05:36:48,100
of ways. So

7103
05:36:49,100 --> 05:36:50,100
with nonprofit partners,

7104
05:36:50,100 --> 05:36:52,100
we have Russian River Rec and

7105
05:36:52,100 --> 05:36:54,100
Parks, Monorillo Rec and

7106
05:36:54,100 --> 05:36:55,100
Parks, we have nonprofit

7107
05:36:55,100 --> 05:36:57,100
community organizations. So

7108
05:36:57,100 --> 05:36:59,401
for instance, in Forestville

7109
05:37:00,100 --> 05:37:02,100
Forever Forestville, that's the

7110
05:37:02,100 --> 05:37:03,100
Forestville Planning

7111
05:37:03,100 --> 05:37:04,100
association. There are

7112
05:37:04,100 --> 05:37:05,100
community groups who have been

7113
05:37:05,100 --> 05:37:07,100
created, informed

7114
05:37:07,100 --> 05:37:08,100
to help support these projects.

7115
05:37:08,100 --> 05:37:10,100
Also, some of our Macs have

7116
05:37:10,100 --> 05:37:11,100
been supportive for community

7117
05:37:11,100 --> 05:37:13,100
services districts. And I would

7118
05:37:13,100 --> 05:37:16,601
say lastly, just that the top

7119
05:37:17,100 --> 05:37:18,100
projects are completed. Those

7120
05:37:18,100 --> 05:37:20,100
are implemented open

7121
05:37:20,100 --> 05:37:22,100
to the public forever.

7122
05:37:22,100 --> 05:37:23,100
Forestville is partially open,

7123
05:37:23,100 --> 05:37:24,100
but not has been fully

7124
05:37:24,100 --> 05:37:26,100
realized. And then the projects

7125
05:37:26,100 --> 05:37:28,100
under in development are

7126
05:37:28,100 --> 05:37:29,100
projects we have accepted

7127
05:37:29,100 --> 05:37:30,100
into the program for funding.

7128
05:37:30,100 --> 05:37:33,100
And then pre application. We

7129
05:37:34,100 --> 05:37:35,100
have received a pre-replication

7130
05:37:35,100 --> 05:37:37,100
and provided technical

7131
05:37:37,100 --> 05:37:38,100
assistance for the

7132
05:37:38,100 --> 05:37:40,100
Forestville Skate Spot and

7133
05:37:40,100 --> 05:37:41,100
Community Park. And that

7134
05:37:41,100 --> 05:37:42,100
project has been invited

7135
05:37:42,100 --> 05:37:44,401
for a full application.

7136
05:37:45,100 --> 05:37:46,100
Lastly, I mentioned park need

7137
05:37:46,100 --> 05:37:49,100
in response to our board. So

7138
05:37:49,100 --> 05:37:51,100
both our board of Directors and

7139
05:37:51,100 --> 05:37:52,100
the County Board of Supervisor

7140
05:37:52,100 --> 05:37:54,100
s. Wanting

7141
05:37:54,100 --> 05:37:55,100
to know what are the needs of

7142
05:37:55,100 --> 05:37:57,100
parks throughout our community

7143
05:37:57,100 --> 05:37:59,100
Regional Parks and AG and

7144
05:37:59,100 --> 05:38:00,100
Open Space partnered to develop

7145
05:38:00,100 --> 05:38:02,100
a digital tool so that we could

7146
05:38:02,100 --> 05:38:03,100
help identify communities in

7147
05:38:03,100 --> 05:38:05,100
Sonoma county that are actually

7148
05:38:05,100 --> 05:38:06,100
lacking publicly accessible

7149
05:38:06,100 --> 05:38:07,100
land, open space and parks.

7150
05:38:07,100 --> 05:38:10,601
And we did this by using

7151
05:38:11,100 --> 05:38:12,100
technology and standards that

7152
05:38:12,100 --> 05:38:14,100
have been established by

7153
05:38:14,100 --> 05:38:15,100
California State Parks and the

7154
05:38:15,100 --> 05:38:17,100
Trust for Public Land, which

7155
05:38:17,100 --> 05:38:19,100
analyzes areas that are

7156
05:38:19,100 --> 05:38:21,100
accessible

7157
05:38:21,100 --> 05:38:22,100
within a 10-minute walk

7158
05:38:22,100 --> 05:38:23,100
to a park or open space. And

7159
05:38:23,100 --> 05:38:25,100
that means the entrance, not

7160
05:38:25,100 --> 05:38:27,100
like a back fence

7161
05:38:27,100 --> 05:38:28,100
of the park or open space. And

7162
05:38:28,100 --> 05:38:30,100
so you can see that

7163
05:38:30,100 --> 05:38:31,100
on the map here, everything in

7164
05:38:31,100 --> 05:38:32,100
green is an area that is

7165
05:38:32,100 --> 05:38:34,100
actually within a distance of

7166
05:38:34,100 --> 05:38:35,100
10 minutes

7167
05:38:35,100 --> 05:38:37,100
of a park or open space. And

7168
05:38:37,100 --> 05:38:38,100
then also you'll notice

7169
05:38:38,100 --> 05:38:39,100
on this map is our portrait

7170
05:38:39,100 --> 05:38:41,100
of Sonoma Human Developmental

7171
05:38:41,100 --> 05:38:42,100
Index which we also use

7172
05:38:42,100 --> 05:38:43,100
to help prioritize projects.

7173
05:38:43,100 --> 05:38:47,201
With that I will turn it over

7174
05:38:49,100 --> 05:38:51,100
to Johannes.

7175
05:38:51,100 --> 05:38:52,100
>> Good afternoon, Board

7176
05:38:52,100 --> 05:38:53,100
members. Chair Members of the

7177
05:38:53,100 --> 05:38:54,100
Board Johannes

7178
05:38:54,100 --> 05:38:56,100
with public infrastructure.

7179
05:38:56,100 --> 05:38:57,100
The Department of Public

7180
05:38:57,100 --> 05:38:58,100
Infrastructure has been working

7181
05:38:58,100 --> 05:39:00,100
for over eight years

7182
05:39:00,100 --> 05:39:02,100
on one project and three years

7183
05:39:02,100 --> 05:39:04,100
on another project that you

7184
05:39:04,100 --> 05:39:06,100
will see here. We have been

7185
05:39:06,100 --> 05:39:07,100
working on projects within

7186
05:39:07,100 --> 05:39:09,100
District 4 and 5. The

7187
05:39:09,100 --> 05:39:11,100
Geyserville community Plaza,

7188
05:39:11,100 --> 05:39:13,100
Occidental, Russian river and

7189
05:39:13,100 --> 05:39:16,100
Forestville Skate Spot. We have

7190
05:39:16,100 --> 05:39:17,100
been tasked with designing the

7191
05:39:17,100 --> 05:39:19,100
projects not going,

7192
05:39:20,100 --> 05:39:22,100
not taking them all the way to

7193
05:39:22,100 --> 05:39:23,100
construction or operations

7194
05:39:23,100 --> 05:39:25,100
remaining. So the public

7195
05:39:25,100 --> 05:39:26,100
infrastructure is only

7196
05:39:26,100 --> 05:39:27,100
designing these projects. We

7197
05:39:27,100 --> 05:39:29,100
work with the community. All

7198
05:39:29,100 --> 05:39:31,100
the projects came to us and as

7199
05:39:31,100 --> 05:39:32,100
grassroots movements

7200
05:39:32,100 --> 05:39:33,100
from the community. Searching

7201
05:39:33,100 --> 05:39:35,100
for a place where the community

7202
05:39:35,100 --> 05:39:37,100
can gather and exercise.

7203
05:39:37,100 --> 05:39:39,100
In this case

7204
05:39:39,100 --> 05:39:41,100
of the skate park,

7205
05:39:41,100 --> 05:39:43,401
the properties are owned

7206
05:39:45,100 --> 05:39:46,100
by either road Fund or transit

7207
05:39:46,100 --> 05:39:48,401
Fund. There are properties

7208
05:39:49,100 --> 05:39:52,601
parcels that are not the most

7209
05:39:54,100 --> 05:39:56,100
developable state. Two

7210
05:39:56,100 --> 05:39:57,100
of them flood

7211
05:39:57,100 --> 05:39:59,100
during the winter,

7212
05:39:59,100 --> 05:40:01,100
which is ideal

7213
05:40:01,100 --> 05:40:04,100
for the use that we want

7214
05:40:04,100 --> 05:40:06,100
to do. We expect that in the

7215
05:40:06,100 --> 05:40:08,100
future we'll deliver the

7216
05:40:08,100 --> 05:40:09,100
project up to design. And it

7217
05:40:09,100 --> 05:40:10,100
will be at some point that a

7218
05:40:10,100 --> 05:40:12,100
decision would have

7219
05:40:12,100 --> 05:40:14,100
to be made how to fund the

7220
05:40:14,100 --> 05:40:16,100
construction and the

7221
05:40:16,100 --> 05:40:18,100
maintenance and the operations

7222
05:40:18,100 --> 05:40:19,100
of the facility. That is not

7223
05:40:19,100 --> 05:40:20,100
the scope of our involvement

7224
05:40:20,100 --> 05:40:21,100
at this time. The estimated

7225
05:40:21,100 --> 05:40:22,100
cost of construction

7226
05:40:22,100 --> 05:40:23,100
of the projects are on your

7227
05:40:23,100 --> 05:40:25,100
On the last column,

7228
05:40:25,100 --> 05:40:28,100
one caveat. On the Geyserville

7229
05:40:29,100 --> 05:40:31,100
community Plaza, that number

7230
05:40:31,100 --> 05:40:33,401
reflects on hand funding,

7231
05:40:34,100 --> 05:40:36,100
secure funding

7232
05:40:36,100 --> 05:40:38,100
for the project,

7233
05:40:39,100 --> 05:40:40,100
not necessarily what the cost

7234
05:40:40,100 --> 05:40:43,100
of the project is going

7235
05:40:43,100 --> 05:40:47,100
to be. We can only expect that

7236
05:40:47,100 --> 05:40:49,100
the cost will rise

7237
05:40:49,100 --> 05:40:50,100
with time.

7238
05:40:50,100 --> 05:40:51,100
>> Can you clarify? Is that

7239
05:40:51,100 --> 05:40:52,100
the. What you're referring to

7240
05:40:52,100 --> 05:40:53,100
is the estimated construction

7241
05:40:53,100 --> 05:40:55,100
cost or is that the other

7242
05:40:55,100 --> 05:40:56,100
column?

7243
05:40:56,100 --> 05:40:58,100
>> So for the three other

7244
05:40:58,100 --> 05:41:00,100
projects, Supervisor

7245
05:41:00,100 --> 05:41:02,401
Hermosillo, the cost includes

7246
05:41:03,100 --> 05:41:04,100
design and construction.

7247
05:41:04,100 --> 05:41:06,100
For the Geyserville project, it

7248
05:41:06,100 --> 05:41:07,100
only includes the funding that

7249
05:41:07,100 --> 05:41:10,100
has been secured up to date.

7250
05:41:10,100 --> 05:41:13,601
And that is funding from MSTI's

7251
05:41:15,100 --> 05:41:16,100
program and some other state

7252
05:41:16,100 --> 05:41:18,100
program.

7253
05:41:19,100 --> 05:41:20,100
>> Got it.

7254
05:41:20,100 --> 05:41:21,100
>> We hope that it would come

7255
05:41:21,100 --> 05:41:23,100
to a million and a half, but we

7256
05:41:23,100 --> 05:41:25,100
don't expect that it could

7257
05:41:25,100 --> 05:41:26,100
change. So we haven't estimated

7258
05:41:26,100 --> 05:41:27,100
the construction cost.

7259
05:41:27,100 --> 05:41:30,100
>> So that is what. When you

7260
05:41:30,100 --> 05:41:31,100
say it's secured, it's not the

7261
05:41:31,100 --> 05:41:33,100
grant total amount that has

7262
05:41:33,100 --> 05:41:35,100
been received?

7263
05:41:35,100 --> 05:41:37,100
>> It is.

7264
05:41:37,100 --> 05:41:38,100
>> Okay, thank you.

7265
05:41:38,100 --> 05:41:41,100
>> Great. Thank you. We'll turn

7266
05:41:44,100 --> 05:41:45,100
it back to the chair

7267
05:41:45,100 --> 05:41:47,100
for discussion.

7268
05:41:47,100 --> 05:41:48,100
>> Well, there goes the

7269
05:41:48,100 --> 05:41:50,100
discussion. Thank you so much.

7270
05:41:50,100 --> 05:41:51,100
I appreciate it. We're going

7271
05:41:51,100 --> 05:41:52,100
to go

7272
05:41:52,100 --> 05:41:54,100
to public comment if you would

7273
05:41:54,100 --> 05:41:55,100
like to speak

7274
05:41:55,100 --> 05:41:57,100
on this agenda item. Everyone

7275
05:41:57,100 --> 05:41:59,100
will have two minutes. If you

7276
05:41:59,100 --> 05:42:01,100
could line up

7277
05:42:01,100 --> 05:42:04,100
to be efficient. Thank you.

7278
05:42:08,000 --> 05:42:10,000
>> Thank you workshoppers.

7279
05:42:11,100 --> 05:42:13,100
Appreciate it.

7280
05:42:19,100 --> 05:42:21,100
>> Go ahead. Thank you, Chair

7281
05:42:21,100 --> 05:42:23,100
Hermosillo, Supervisor

7282
05:42:23,100 --> 05:42:25,100
Hopkins, Supervisor Rabbitt,

7283
05:42:26,100 --> 05:42:28,100
Coursey and Gore. And also, to

7284
05:42:28,100 --> 05:42:30,100
the park workshoppers really

7285
05:42:30,100 --> 05:42:32,100
appreciate this important

7286
05:42:32,100 --> 05:42:33,100
topic. Thanks for bringing it

7287
05:42:33,100 --> 05:42:35,100
to the agenda. I'm Jackie

7288
05:42:35,100 --> 05:42:37,100
Brazil. I've lived in

7289
05:42:37,100 --> 05:42:39,401
Forestville for 27 years. In

7290
05:42:40,100 --> 05:42:42,100
2014, my son and I founded

7291
05:42:42,100 --> 05:42:43,100
Forestville Skate Spot

7292
05:42:43,100 --> 05:42:45,100
to create a safe local space

7293
05:42:45,100 --> 05:42:48,100
for our youth. Today we have a

7294
05:42:48,100 --> 05:42:50,100
designated county parcel, a

7295
05:42:50,100 --> 05:42:52,100
site plan that keeps it green

7296
05:42:52,100 --> 05:42:53,100
and open,

7297
05:42:53,100 --> 05:42:54,100
and a community spaces grant

7298
05:42:54,100 --> 05:42:55,100
in progress, as you heard. But

7299
05:42:55,100 --> 05:42:58,100
we have hit a wall and that's

7300
05:42:58,100 --> 05:43:00,100
maintenance

7301
05:43:02,100 --> 05:43:03,100
for an unincorporated,

7302
05:43:03,100 --> 05:43:05,100
underserved community. The

7303
05:43:05,100 --> 05:43:08,100
hurdles to create even a small

7304
05:43:08,100 --> 05:43:09,100
park are massive. Forming a

7305
05:43:09,100 --> 05:43:12,100
special district or passing new

7306
05:43:12,100 --> 05:43:13,100
parcel taxes is insurmountable

7307
05:43:13,100 --> 05:43:15,100
for us and not desired

7308
05:43:15,100 --> 05:43:16,100
by our community. Our due

7309
05:43:16,100 --> 05:43:18,401
diligence is clear. Park

7310
05:43:20,100 --> 05:43:22,100
maintenance should be the

7311
05:43:22,100 --> 05:43:23,100
responsibility of a dedicated

7312
05:43:23,100 --> 05:43:25,100
parks department,

7313
05:43:25,100 --> 05:43:27,401
not a grassroots nonprofit.

7314
05:43:28,100 --> 05:43:29,100
This is exactly what we

7315
05:43:29,100 --> 05:43:32,100
believed Measure M was for.

7316
05:43:33,100 --> 05:43:34,100
Unincorporated Sonoma County is

7317
05:43:34,100 --> 05:43:35,100
lacking

7318
05:43:35,100 --> 05:43:37,401
in public neighborhood parks.

7319
05:43:38,100 --> 05:43:41,100
While we love regional parks,

7320
05:43:41,100 --> 05:43:44,100
many are 30-minute drive away,

7321
05:43:44,100 --> 05:43:45,100
so not within the 10-minute

7322
05:43:45,100 --> 05:43:47,100
walkable allotment

7323
05:43:48,100 --> 05:43:49,100
of the park,

7324
05:43:49,100 --> 05:43:51,100
making them inaccessible

7325
05:43:51,100 --> 05:43:52,100
to rural youth. Measure M was

7326
05:43:52,100 --> 05:43:54,100
billed as parks for all, yet it

7327
05:43:54,100 --> 05:43:55,100
primarily funds larger regional

7328
05:43:55,100 --> 05:43:57,100
spaces and city parks but

7329
05:43:57,100 --> 05:44:00,100
leaves small town parks behind.

7330
05:44:03,100 --> 05:44:05,100
We aren't asking regional parks

7331
05:44:05,100 --> 05:44:07,100
to build our park. We're asking

7332
05:44:07,100 --> 05:44:09,100
to be your partner as your new

7333
05:44:09,100 --> 05:44:11,100
belonging's framework aspires

7334
05:44:11,100 --> 05:44:14,100
to. Our community is already

7335
05:44:14,100 --> 05:44:16,100
raising funds and we will

7336
05:44:16,100 --> 05:44:18,100
provide stewardship,

7337
05:44:18,100 --> 05:44:20,100
stewardship for the park. We

7338
05:44:20,100 --> 05:44:21,100
only ask that the park's

7339
05:44:21,100 --> 05:44:23,100
department handle maintenance.

7340
05:44:23,100 --> 05:44:24,100
A two point.

7341
05:44:24,100 --> 05:44:25,100
>> Thank you. That is your

7342
05:44:25,100 --> 05:44:26,100
time. Oh, okay.

7343
05:44:26,100 --> 05:44:28,100
>> Thank you.

7344
05:44:28,100 --> 05:44:30,100
>> And then.

7345
05:44:33,100 --> 05:44:34,100
>> Good afternoon. My name is

7346
05:44:34,100 --> 05:44:36,100
James Williams. I'm a

7347
05:44:36,100 --> 05:44:37,100
Forestville resident, a local

7348
05:44:37,100 --> 05:44:38,100
business owner and a board

7349
05:44:38,100 --> 05:44:39,100
member of the Forestville

7350
05:44:39,100 --> 05:44:40,100
Skate Spot. I want

7351
05:44:40,100 --> 05:44:42,100
to thank the board

7352
05:44:42,100 --> 05:44:45,100
for holding this workshop and

7353
05:44:45,100 --> 05:44:47,100
for the support provided thus

7354
05:44:47,100 --> 05:44:49,100
far in our effort

7355
05:44:49,100 --> 05:44:51,100
to establish a neighborhood

7356
05:44:51,100 --> 05:44:52,100
park in our town. Growing up

7357
05:44:52,100 --> 05:44:53,100
skateboarding

7358
05:44:53,100 --> 05:44:54,100
in the 80s and 90s,

7359
05:44:54,100 --> 05:44:55,100
I spent my youth being chased

7360
05:44:55,100 --> 05:44:56,100
out of parking lots and plazas.

7361
05:44:56,100 --> 05:44:57,100
I'm here today because I wish

7362
05:44:57,100 --> 05:44:58,100
someone had advocated

7363
05:44:58,100 --> 05:45:00,100
for a safe, dedicated space

7364
05:45:00,100 --> 05:45:01,100
for me to skate back then.

7365
05:45:01,100 --> 05:45:03,100
Now, as a business owner and

7366
05:45:03,100 --> 05:45:04,100
neighbor, I feel it's my duty

7367
05:45:04,100 --> 05:45:06,401
to be that advocate

7368
05:45:07,100 --> 05:45:08,100
for youth growing up today.

7369
05:45:08,100 --> 05:45:10,100
Forestville Skate Spot has been

7370
05:45:10,100 --> 05:45:11,100
active for over a decade

7371
05:45:11,100 --> 05:45:13,100
raising community awareness and

7372
05:45:13,100 --> 05:45:14,100
support,

7373
05:45:14,100 --> 05:45:15,100
raising funds and making plans

7374
05:45:15,100 --> 05:45:17,100
for an inclusive welcoming

7375
05:45:17,100 --> 05:45:18,100
space. What we're missing is a

7376
05:45:18,100 --> 05:45:19,100
formal plan

7377
05:45:19,100 --> 05:45:21,100
for long-term maintenance. We

7378
05:45:21,100 --> 05:45:23,100
believe the solution is

7379
05:45:23,100 --> 05:45:25,100
Sonoma County Regional Parks.

7380
05:45:25,100 --> 05:45:26,100
They already operate a

7381
05:45:26,100 --> 05:45:28,100
maintenance hub at

7382
05:45:28,100 --> 05:45:29,100
Forestville's El Molino campus

7383
05:45:29,100 --> 05:45:31,100
which is just a two-minute

7384
05:45:31,100 --> 05:45:32,100
drive from our site. This seems

7385
05:45:32,100 --> 05:45:34,100
to be a common sense, efficient

7386
05:45:34,100 --> 05:45:35,100
partnership that bridges the

7387
05:45:35,100 --> 05:45:36,100
service gap

7388
05:45:36,100 --> 05:45:37,100
for unincorporated towns

7389
05:45:37,100 --> 05:45:38,100
like ours. Forestville Skate

7390
05:45:38,100 --> 05:45:39,100
Spot is ready to serve as the

7391
05:45:39,100 --> 05:45:41,100
long-term stewards

7392
05:45:41,100 --> 05:45:42,100
of the park. But we need a

7393
05:45:42,100 --> 05:45:43,100
county agency partner

7394
05:45:43,100 --> 05:45:45,100
to make this vision a reality.

7395
05:45:45,100 --> 05:45:46,100
We respectfully ask the board

7396
05:45:46,100 --> 05:45:48,100
to empower and fund regional

7397
05:45:48,100 --> 05:45:49,100
parks to take on this role

7398
05:45:49,100 --> 05:45:51,100
for our neighborhood. Thank you

7399
05:45:51,100 --> 05:45:53,100
for your time and support.

7400
05:45:53,100 --> 05:45:56,100
>> Thank you. Hi. You can

7401
05:46:00,100 --> 05:46:01,100
adjust the podium if that's

7402
05:46:01,100 --> 05:46:03,100
helpful.

7403
05:46:07,100 --> 05:46:09,100
>> Hello, my name is Lila and I

7404
05:46:09,100 --> 05:46:10,100
would like a skate park in

7405
05:46:10,100 --> 05:46:11,100
Forestville because it would be

7406
05:46:11,100 --> 05:46:13,100
easier to get to it instead

7407
05:46:13,100 --> 05:46:15,100
of driving. Instead of driving

7408
05:46:15,100 --> 05:46:17,100
like 20 or 30 minutes to get

7409
05:46:17,100 --> 05:46:19,100
to it. And also I would take

7410
05:46:19,100 --> 05:46:21,100
good care

7411
05:46:22,100 --> 05:46:24,100
of it and not destroy it.

7412
05:46:24,100 --> 05:46:27,100
Thank you for your time.

7413
05:46:28,100 --> 05:46:30,100
>> Thank you.

7414
05:46:33,100 --> 05:46:34,100
>> Hi, my name is Camille.

7415
05:46:34,100 --> 05:46:36,100
Lyla is my daughter.

7416
05:46:36,100 --> 05:46:37,100
Skateboarding has provided my

7417
05:46:37,100 --> 05:46:38,100
kids with a low key,

7418
05:46:38,100 --> 05:46:40,100
inviting and inclusive place

7419
05:46:40,100 --> 05:46:43,100
to do sports. My daughter feels

7420
05:46:43,100 --> 05:46:45,100
empowered and it is a

7421
05:46:45,100 --> 05:46:46,100
multi-generational community

7422
05:46:46,100 --> 05:46:48,100
sport. Forestville has strong

7423
05:46:48,100 --> 05:46:50,100
community engagement across

7424
05:46:50,100 --> 05:46:51,100
generations as you can see

7425
05:46:51,100 --> 05:46:52,100
by this effort to build a skate

7426
05:46:52,100 --> 05:46:55,100
park that has been going on

7427
05:46:55,100 --> 05:46:58,601
for over 10 years. I have no

7428
05:47:00,100 --> 05:47:01,100
doubt that we will be able

7429
05:47:01,100 --> 05:47:02,100
to provide regular,

7430
05:47:02,100 --> 05:47:04,100
strong involvement in helping

7431
05:47:04,100 --> 05:47:05,100
to take care of the skate park

7432
05:47:05,100 --> 05:47:06,100
and it would be treasured and

7433
05:47:06,100 --> 05:47:08,100
valued.

7434
05:47:10,100 --> 05:47:12,401
>> Thank you. Thanks Bert.

7435
05:47:23,100 --> 05:47:25,100
>> Good afternoon. My name is

7436
05:47:25,100 --> 05:47:27,100
Oscar A.B. foster. And I live

7437
05:47:27,100 --> 05:47:29,100
in Forestville. And attend

7438
05:47:29,100 --> 05:47:31,100
Forestville Elementary

7439
05:47:31,100 --> 05:47:32,100
School. Our town needs a skate

7440
05:47:32,100 --> 05:47:34,100
park where my. I can. Where I

7441
05:47:34,100 --> 05:47:37,100
can go skateboarding. And spend

7442
05:47:37,100 --> 05:47:39,100
time outside with my friends.

7443
05:47:39,100 --> 05:47:41,100
If I want

7444
05:47:41,100 --> 05:47:43,100
to go skateboarding now,

7445
05:47:43,100 --> 05:47:45,100
my parents have to drive me

7446
05:47:45,100 --> 05:47:47,100
to Monte Rio Skatepark. Or

7447
05:47:47,100 --> 05:47:49,100
somewhere else even. Even

7448
05:47:49,100 --> 05:47:51,100
farther away. If I'm lucky,

7449
05:47:51,100 --> 05:47:52,100
I can go over to my friend

7450
05:47:52,100 --> 05:47:54,100
Heath's house. And we can

7451
05:47:54,100 --> 05:47:56,100
skateboard together

7452
05:47:56,100 --> 05:47:58,100
in his driveway. But it would

7453
05:47:58,100 --> 05:47:59,100
be better if we had our own

7454
05:47:59,100 --> 05:48:01,401
park in Forestville. Where

7455
05:48:02,100 --> 05:48:03,100
other kids who want to go

7456
05:48:03,100 --> 05:48:05,100
to who want to go to who want

7457
05:48:05,100 --> 05:48:08,601
to skate can go. Not everyone

7458
05:48:09,100 --> 05:48:11,100
can drive to Monte Rio or go.

7459
05:48:11,100 --> 05:48:12,100
And not everyone can go

7460
05:48:12,100 --> 05:48:15,100
to his house. Thank you.

7461
05:48:17,100 --> 05:48:19,100
>> Thank you.

7462
05:48:19,100 --> 05:48:21,100
>> All right.

7463
05:48:33,100 --> 05:48:34,100
>> Good afternoon. My name is

7464
05:48:34,100 --> 05:48:36,100
Timothy Foster. I am one

7465
05:48:36,100 --> 05:48:37,100
of the parents of Oscar. Who

7466
05:48:37,100 --> 05:48:38,100
you just heard from. We are

7467
05:48:38,100 --> 05:48:41,100
residents of Forestville. I am

7468
05:48:41,100 --> 05:48:42,100
here today to encourage the

7469
05:48:42,100 --> 05:48:43,100
Board of Supervisor s to act

7470
05:48:43,100 --> 05:48:45,401
by removing any impediments.

7471
05:48:46,100 --> 05:48:49,100
That exist now and may exist

7472
05:48:49,100 --> 05:48:50,100
in the future. That would

7473
05:48:50,100 --> 05:48:51,100
prevent the creation of

7474
05:48:51,100 --> 05:48:53,401
Forestville's skate park. As

7475
05:48:54,100 --> 05:48:55,100
well as other community parks.

7476
05:48:55,100 --> 05:48:57,100
And similarly overlooked

7477
05:48:57,100 --> 05:48:58,100
unincorporated communities in

7478
05:48:58,100 --> 05:49:01,100
Sonoma County. I believe the

7479
05:49:01,100 --> 05:49:02,100
skate park and community

7480
05:49:02,100 --> 05:49:04,100
garden. Would be a vital part

7481
05:49:04,100 --> 05:49:06,100
of supporting our youth. And

7482
05:49:06,100 --> 05:49:07,100
develop athletically,

7483
05:49:07,100 --> 05:49:09,100
socially.

7484
05:49:10,100 --> 05:49:11,100
In supporting our parents

7485
05:49:11,100 --> 05:49:12,100
by giving them a nearby option.

7486
05:49:12,100 --> 05:49:14,100
To foster the interests

7487
05:49:14,100 --> 05:49:16,100
of their young skaters. And

7488
05:49:16,100 --> 05:49:18,100
to support the wider community.

7489
05:49:18,100 --> 05:49:20,100
By being a place where

7490
05:49:20,100 --> 05:49:22,100
neighbors can come together.

7491
05:49:22,100 --> 05:49:23,100
Forestville has two other local

7492
05:49:23,100 --> 05:49:25,100
parks. The Forestville Youth

7493
05:49:25,100 --> 05:49:27,100
park. Is home to several

7494
05:49:27,100 --> 05:49:29,100
Little League baseball teams. A

7495
05:49:29,100 --> 05:49:31,100
playground. And hosts many

7496
05:49:31,100 --> 05:49:33,100
birthday parties throughout the

7497
05:49:33,100 --> 05:49:34,100
year. There's also the downtown

7498
05:49:34,100 --> 05:49:35,100
Oaks Park. That is home to

7499
05:49:35,100 --> 05:49:37,100
Forestville Farmers Market. An

7500
05:49:37,100 --> 05:49:39,100
annual Pie in the park

7501
05:49:39,100 --> 05:49:41,100
Fundraiser. And on May 9th,

7502
05:49:41,100 --> 05:49:43,100
we'll be the host

7503
05:49:43,100 --> 05:49:44,100
to the third annual

7504
05:49:44,100 --> 05:49:47,100
Forestville Skate Spot 5K Fun

7505
05:49:47,100 --> 05:49:49,100
Run. But neither

7506
05:49:49,100 --> 05:49:50,100
of these parks are equipped to

7507
05:49:50,100 --> 05:49:52,100
serve the skateboarding

7508
05:49:52,100 --> 05:49:53,100
community. These parks are

7509
05:49:53,100 --> 05:49:55,100
privately owned and funded.

7510
05:49:55,100 --> 05:49:56,100
By the residents of

7511
05:49:56,100 --> 05:49:57,100
Forestville. Because they are

7512
05:49:57,100 --> 05:49:59,100
vital to our community. I

7513
05:49:59,100 --> 05:50:01,100
encourage the board

7514
05:50:01,100 --> 05:50:02,100
to recognize the value.

7515
05:50:02,100 --> 05:50:03,100
Of the Forestville Skates

7516
05:50:03,100 --> 05:50:05,100
Park Project and others

7517
05:50:05,100 --> 05:50:07,100
like it. And do as the

7518
05:50:07,100 --> 05:50:09,100
residents of Forestville have

7519
05:50:09,100 --> 05:50:10,100
already done. And support our

7520
05:50:10,100 --> 05:50:12,100
parks and support

7521
05:50:12,100 --> 05:50:14,100
Forestville. Thank you.

7522
05:50:31,000 --> 05:50:35,200
>> Hi. My name is Sage and I

7523
05:50:38,000 --> 05:50:41,100
live in Forestville. I go to

7524
05:50:41,100 --> 05:50:42,100
Forestville Elementary. When I

7525
05:50:42,100 --> 05:50:45,100
first moved here, I joined the

7526
05:50:45,100 --> 05:50:46,000
skateboarding club and it has

7527
05:50:46,000 --> 05:50:49,100
been so much fun. What I love

7528
05:50:49,100 --> 05:50:52,100
most is being with my friends

7529
05:50:52,100 --> 05:50:53,000
while skateboarding. I would

7530
05:50:53,000 --> 05:50:55,100
love skate park that's

7531
05:50:55,100 --> 05:50:56,100
near me, that's not 30 minutes

7532
05:50:56,100 --> 05:50:57,100
away. I promise I'd take good

7533
05:50:57,100 --> 05:50:58,100
care of it. Thank you

7534
05:50:58,100 --> 05:50:59,100
for your time.

7535
05:50:59,100 --> 05:51:00,100
>> Thank you.

7536
05:51:00,100 --> 05:51:02,100
>> Hello. My name is N.

7537
05:51:02,100 --> 05:51:05,100
Sagado. I made this skate park

7538
05:51:05,100 --> 05:51:08,100
last year. Awesome. Why? I

7539
05:51:11,100 --> 05:51:14,100
think. I wish it. I think I

7540
05:51:14,100 --> 05:51:15,100
should. We should have the

7541
05:51:15,100 --> 05:51:16,100
skate park is because I don't

7542
05:51:16,100 --> 05:51:18,100
have to go all the way to

7543
05:51:18,100 --> 05:51:19,100
like monorail skate park or

7544
05:51:19,100 --> 05:51:20,100
like go to like Durnville

7545
05:51:20,100 --> 05:51:23,100
to go skateboarding and so like

7546
05:51:23,100 --> 05:51:26,100
everyone can come together and

7547
05:51:27,100 --> 05:51:29,100
just start skateboarding.

7548
05:51:30,100 --> 05:51:31,100
Thank you.

7549
05:51:31,100 --> 05:51:33,100
>> Thank you.

7550
05:51:43,000 --> 05:51:45,100
>> My name is Heath. I'm nine

7551
05:51:45,100 --> 05:51:48,100
years old and I live in

7552
05:51:48,100 --> 05:51:50,100
Forestville. I think we deserve

7553
05:51:50,100 --> 05:51:53,100
a skate park in Forestville

7554
05:51:54,100 --> 05:51:57,100
because I don't want to have

7555
05:51:57,100 --> 05:51:59,401
to drive 30 minutes to

7556
05:52:01,100 --> 05:52:02,100
Monterrey and I just want

7557
05:52:02,100 --> 05:52:03,100
to skate with my friends.

7558
05:52:03,100 --> 05:52:05,100
Thank you.

7559
05:52:05,100 --> 05:52:08,100
>> Thank you. Okay, go ahead.

7560
05:52:19,100 --> 05:52:22,100
>> Hello, my name is Leo and.

7561
05:52:22,100 --> 05:52:24,100
And I'm six years old. I think

7562
05:52:24,100 --> 05:52:26,100
we should have a skate park

7563
05:52:26,100 --> 05:52:28,401
in Forestville. It's because.

7564
05:52:30,100 --> 05:52:32,100
It's because I like to. I

7565
05:52:32,100 --> 05:52:36,100
like to. I like to go on my

7566
05:52:36,100 --> 05:52:39,100
bike and also I think it's. I

7567
05:52:39,100 --> 05:52:42,100
don't think we should drive 30

7568
05:52:43,100 --> 05:52:46,100
minutes and I. Sometimes I get

7569
05:52:46,100 --> 05:52:48,401
bored in the car.

7570
05:52:51,100 --> 05:52:53,100
>> Good job.

7571
05:53:07,100 --> 05:53:09,100
>> Hi, I'm Camille and I'm also

7572
05:53:09,100 --> 05:53:11,100
a resident of Forestville and

7573
05:53:11,100 --> 05:53:13,100
I'm on the board of Volunteer

7574
05:53:13,100 --> 05:53:14,100
board of Forestville Skate

7575
05:53:14,100 --> 05:53:18,201
Park. Those are my kids. And we

7576
05:53:19,100 --> 05:53:21,100
often travel to Maxwell Farm

7577
05:53:21,100 --> 05:53:23,100
Skate Park, Monorillo

7578
05:53:23,100 --> 05:53:25,100
Creekside park, and the

7579
05:53:25,100 --> 05:53:26,100
Carson Warner Memorial Skate

7580
05:53:26,100 --> 05:53:28,100
park in Healdsburg. Skate parks

7581
05:53:28,100 --> 05:53:29,100
are essential Parks

7582
05:53:29,100 --> 05:53:30,100
for youth. They teach my kids

7583
05:53:30,100 --> 05:53:31,100
valuable skills like resilience

7584
05:53:31,100 --> 05:53:33,100
and problem solving, and they

7585
05:53:33,100 --> 05:53:35,100
provide healthy outdoor

7586
05:53:35,100 --> 05:53:37,100
activities. Forestville is a

7587
05:53:37,100 --> 05:53:39,100
small town and unfortunately,

7588
05:53:39,100 --> 05:53:41,100
in the patchwork of special

7589
05:53:41,100 --> 05:53:43,100
districts that cover the rural

7590
05:53:43,100 --> 05:53:44,100
parts of Sonoma county, our

7591
05:53:44,100 --> 05:53:46,100
town doesn't have an agency

7592
05:53:46,100 --> 05:53:47,100
that can provide management and

7593
05:53:47,100 --> 05:53:49,100
oversight

7594
05:53:49,100 --> 05:53:51,100
of public parks. I'm here today

7595
05:53:51,100 --> 05:53:52,100
to ask the Board of

7596
05:53:52,100 --> 05:53:54,100
Supervisors, Public

7597
05:53:54,100 --> 05:53:55,100
Infrastructure Department,

7598
05:53:55,100 --> 05:53:57,100
Sonoma County Regional Parks,

7599
05:53:57,100 --> 05:53:58,100
to collaboratively find a

7600
05:53:58,100 --> 05:53:59,100
solution to fill this gap

7601
05:53:59,100 --> 05:54:01,100
in services so communities

7602
05:54:01,100 --> 05:54:03,100
like ours can also have access

7603
05:54:03,100 --> 05:54:06,100
to public parks. I realize it's

7604
05:54:06,100 --> 05:54:07,100
difficult for county agencies

7605
05:54:07,100 --> 05:54:09,100
to take on new projects. Many

7606
05:54:09,100 --> 05:54:11,100
are overwhelmed. We aren't

7607
05:54:11,100 --> 05:54:13,100
aware of all the barriers and

7608
05:54:13,100 --> 05:54:14,100
reasons why taking

7609
05:54:14,100 --> 05:54:15,100
on management

7610
05:54:15,100 --> 05:54:17,100
of the park is so difficult.

7611
05:54:17,100 --> 05:54:18,100
We just feel frustrated that we

7612
05:54:18,100 --> 05:54:19,100
don't have access

7613
05:54:19,100 --> 05:54:21,100
to public parks

7614
05:54:21,100 --> 05:54:22,100
in our neighborhood.

7615
05:54:22,100 --> 05:54:24,100
Forestville Skate Spot is

7616
05:54:24,100 --> 05:54:25,100
willing to be a partner in the

7617
05:54:25,100 --> 05:54:27,401
long term maintenance and

7618
05:54:28,100 --> 05:54:29,100
operations of the future park.

7619
05:54:29,100 --> 05:54:30,100
But we ask that Sonoma County

7620
05:54:30,100 --> 05:54:32,100
Regional Parks share openly

7621
05:54:32,100 --> 05:54:33,100
their hesitation

7622
05:54:33,100 --> 05:54:34,100
with partnering

7623
05:54:34,100 --> 05:54:36,100
with us so that we can help

7624
05:54:36,100 --> 05:54:37,100
to find a solution. And I

7625
05:54:37,100 --> 05:54:39,100
invite you all to collaborate

7626
05:54:39,100 --> 05:54:40,100
with us and overcome challenges

7627
05:54:40,100 --> 05:54:42,100
and obstacles to establishing

7628
05:54:42,100 --> 05:54:44,100
the long term maintenance

7629
05:54:44,100 --> 05:54:46,100
of our park. And just want

7630
05:54:46,100 --> 05:54:47,100
to say thank you to the Board

7631
05:54:47,100 --> 05:54:49,100
of Supervisors, the AG and

7632
05:54:49,100 --> 05:54:50,100
Open Space District County

7633
05:54:50,100 --> 05:54:52,100
Public Infrastructure

7634
05:54:52,100 --> 05:54:53,100
for your support

7635
05:54:53,100 --> 05:54:55,100
of our project. And also thank

7636
05:54:55,100 --> 05:54:57,100
you to Sonoma County Regional

7637
05:54:57,100 --> 05:54:59,100
Parks for your work

7638
05:54:59,100 --> 05:55:01,100
across the county on all the

7639
05:55:01,100 --> 05:55:02,100
beautiful parks that we have

7640
05:55:02,100 --> 05:55:05,100
access to. And we welcome an

7641
05:55:05,100 --> 05:55:06,100
open and collaborative

7642
05:55:06,100 --> 05:55:07,100
relationship. Thank you.

7643
05:55:07,100 --> 05:55:09,100
>> Thank you.

7644
05:55:15,100 --> 05:55:17,100
>> Hi, I'm Tara Racine. I'm

7645
05:55:17,100 --> 05:55:19,100
Sage's mom and we live in the

7646
05:55:19,100 --> 05:55:21,100
Forestville School District.

7647
05:55:22,100 --> 05:55:23,100
When we moved here last year,

7648
05:55:23,100 --> 05:55:25,100
we were thrilled that Sage

7649
05:55:25,100 --> 05:55:27,100
could join the Forestville

7650
05:55:27,100 --> 05:55:29,100
Skate Spot

7651
05:55:29,100 --> 05:55:30,100
after school program. And

7652
05:55:30,100 --> 05:55:32,100
for such a small town, this is

7653
05:55:32,100 --> 05:55:34,100
an incredibly impressive

7654
05:55:34,100 --> 05:55:36,100
organization. It's a positive,

7655
05:55:36,100 --> 05:55:38,100
supportive group, as you can

7656
05:55:38,100 --> 05:55:40,100
see, focused on building both

7657
05:55:40,100 --> 05:55:42,401
physical skills and good

7658
05:55:43,100 --> 05:55:45,100
character. As parents,

7659
05:55:46,100 --> 05:55:48,100
we love seeing our kids

7660
05:55:48,100 --> 05:55:50,401
outdoors, moving their bodies

7661
05:55:51,100 --> 05:55:53,100
and connecting

7662
05:55:53,100 --> 05:55:55,100
with real people

7663
05:55:56,100 --> 05:55:58,100
in real time. It's no secret

7664
05:55:58,100 --> 05:56:00,100
that kids today are

7665
05:56:00,100 --> 05:56:02,100
in a crisis. Parents need help

7666
05:56:02,100 --> 05:56:04,100
physically,

7667
05:56:05,100 --> 05:56:07,100
socially and mentally. Due

7668
05:56:07,100 --> 05:56:08,100
to the sedentary nature

7669
05:56:08,100 --> 05:56:10,401
of digital life. Experts,

7670
05:56:11,100 --> 05:56:12,100
doctors and therapists are all

7671
05:56:12,100 --> 05:56:15,100
telling us the same thing. Our

7672
05:56:15,100 --> 05:56:16,100
children desperately need

7673
05:56:16,100 --> 05:56:18,100
to move their bodies,

7674
05:56:18,100 --> 05:56:20,100
get outdoors and spend time

7675
05:56:20,100 --> 05:56:22,401
with the local community,

7676
05:56:23,100 --> 05:56:25,401
connecting with people. The

7677
05:56:29,100 --> 05:56:31,100
Forestville Skate Spot

7678
05:56:31,100 --> 05:56:34,100
Community park isn't just a

7679
05:56:34,100 --> 05:56:36,100
hobby. It's a solution

7680
05:56:36,100 --> 05:56:39,100
to those challenges. That's why

7681
05:56:39,100 --> 05:56:41,100
I'm asking you

7682
05:56:41,100 --> 05:56:44,100
to designate funds to support

7683
05:56:44,100 --> 05:56:46,100
Sonoma County Regional Parks

7684
05:56:46,100 --> 05:56:48,100
in order to support the

7685
05:56:48,100 --> 05:56:49,100
Forestville Skate Spot

7686
05:56:49,100 --> 05:56:51,100
Neighborhood Park's long term

7687
05:56:51,100 --> 05:56:53,100
maintenance. You have the

7688
05:56:53,100 --> 05:56:55,100
Power

7689
05:56:55,100 --> 05:56:57,100
to make a massive lasting

7690
05:56:57,100 --> 05:56:59,100
impact on a rural town here

7691
05:56:59,100 --> 05:57:01,100
in West County.

7692
05:57:02,100 --> 05:57:04,100
By approving this funding, you

7693
05:57:04,100 --> 05:57:06,100
will help create a public space

7694
05:57:06,100 --> 05:57:07,100
in our town unlike any other,

7695
05:57:07,100 --> 05:57:09,100
where kids and families can

7696
05:57:09,100 --> 05:57:11,401
exercise and connect. Please

7697
05:57:13,100 --> 05:57:14,100
provide Sonoma County

7698
05:57:14,100 --> 05:57:16,100
Regional Parks

7699
05:57:16,100 --> 05:57:18,100
with the resources they need

7700
05:57:18,100 --> 05:57:20,100
to serve our youth. Thank you.

7701
05:57:20,100 --> 05:57:22,100
And our rural community. Thank

7702
05:57:22,100 --> 05:57:25,100
you. Thank you. That's as

7703
05:57:29,100 --> 05:57:31,100
opposite goes.

7704
05:57:31,100 --> 05:57:33,401
>> I thank you all

7705
05:57:41,100 --> 05:57:43,100
for your time. My name is

7706
05:57:43,100 --> 05:57:45,100
Mose Portal. I'm a skateboarder

7707
05:57:45,100 --> 05:57:46,100
from the Russian river and a

7708
05:57:46,100 --> 05:57:48,100
committee member for Safe

7709
05:57:48,100 --> 05:57:50,100
Spaces Skate, including having

7710
05:57:50,100 --> 05:57:53,100
done work with the Monterey

7711
05:57:53,100 --> 05:57:54,100
Skate park and now the

7712
05:57:54,100 --> 05:57:56,100
Forestville Skate Spot. The

7713
05:57:56,100 --> 05:57:57,100
reason Forestville is

7714
05:57:57,100 --> 05:57:58,100
in dire need of a skate park is

7715
05:57:58,100 --> 05:58:00,100
because when I grew up here, my

7716
05:58:00,100 --> 05:58:01,100
friends got bored and didn't

7717
05:58:01,100 --> 05:58:04,100
have a safe place to have fun

7718
05:58:04,100 --> 05:58:05,100
or challenge themselves. And we

7719
05:58:05,100 --> 05:58:06,100
know how, we all know how

7720
05:58:06,100 --> 05:58:08,100
dangerous that can be

7721
05:58:08,100 --> 05:58:10,100
for developing minds.

7722
05:58:10,100 --> 05:58:11,100
Skateboarding saved me and kept

7723
05:58:11,100 --> 05:58:13,100
me from trying any drugs or

7724
05:58:13,100 --> 05:58:14,100
alcohol my entire life. And I

7725
05:58:14,100 --> 05:58:17,100
owe it so much for that. Yay

7726
05:58:17,100 --> 05:58:19,401
for skateboarding. It's helped

7727
05:58:21,100 --> 05:58:22,100
me become a man and I want

7728
05:58:22,100 --> 05:58:24,100
to see kids, my friends, many

7729
05:58:24,100 --> 05:58:25,100
have shown up here today and I

7730
05:58:25,100 --> 05:58:27,100
have something to look forward

7731
05:58:27,100 --> 05:58:29,100
to in Forestville for years

7732
05:58:29,100 --> 05:58:31,100
to come. The location is

7733
05:58:31,100 --> 05:58:32,100
perfect, right on

7734
05:58:32,100 --> 05:58:33,100
Packinghouse Road as you're

7735
05:58:33,100 --> 05:58:35,100
heading into Forestville from

7736
05:58:35,100 --> 05:58:37,100
Grayton. And the time is better

7737
05:58:37,100 --> 05:58:38,100
than any. The people have

7738
05:58:38,100 --> 05:58:39,100
spoken with their dollars

7739
05:58:39,100 --> 05:58:40,100
of support and

7740
05:58:40,100 --> 05:58:41,100
to the cause and we want

7741
05:58:41,100 --> 05:58:43,100
to deliver. So we need a long

7742
05:58:43,100 --> 05:58:44,100
term maintenance and operations

7743
05:58:44,100 --> 05:58:45,100
providers. Forestville is

7744
05:58:45,100 --> 05:58:47,100
unincorporated, so we

7745
05:58:47,100 --> 05:58:48,100
respectfully ask that you

7746
05:58:48,100 --> 05:58:50,100
address the areas in need with

7747
05:58:50,100 --> 05:58:51,100
any potential solutions. I've

7748
05:58:51,100 --> 05:58:53,100
been a long time supporter

7749
05:58:53,100 --> 05:58:54,100
for upkeep on skate parks and

7750
05:58:54,100 --> 05:58:56,100
volunteer myself to be a

7751
05:58:56,100 --> 05:58:57,100
steward when this park's vision

7752
05:58:57,100 --> 05:58:59,100
is finally seen. I hope we can

7753
05:58:59,100 --> 05:59:00,100
work with the regional parks

7754
05:59:00,100 --> 05:59:02,100
and the community

7755
05:59:02,100 --> 05:59:03,100
to make sure this park stays

7756
05:59:03,100 --> 05:59:05,100
in immaculate condition

7757
05:59:05,100 --> 05:59:07,100
for years to come. Thank you

7758
05:59:07,100 --> 05:59:08,100
for having me here

7759
05:59:08,100 --> 05:59:09,100
to speak.

7760
05:59:09,100 --> 05:59:11,100
>> Thank you.

7761
05:59:16,100 --> 05:59:17,100
>> Good afternoon. My name is

7762
05:59:17,100 --> 05:59:19,100
Ellery and I am here today as a

7763
05:59:19,100 --> 05:59:21,100
skateboarder, as a member

7764
05:59:21,100 --> 05:59:22,100
of the Forestville community,

7765
05:59:22,100 --> 05:59:24,100
and as my mom said earlier,

7766
05:59:24,100 --> 05:59:26,100
one of the founding members

7767
05:59:26,100 --> 05:59:27,100
alongside her of the Forestville

7768
05:59:27,100 --> 05:59:29,100
Skate Spot project. For me,

7769
05:59:29,100 --> 05:59:30,100
skateboarding has never been

7770
05:59:30,100 --> 05:59:31,100
just a hobby. It's something

7771
05:59:31,100 --> 05:59:32,100
that's given me confidence,

7772
05:59:32,100 --> 05:59:33,100
a sense of purpose,

7773
05:59:33,100 --> 05:59:35,100
and it has taught me

7774
05:59:35,100 --> 05:59:36,100
to overcome risk aversion

7775
05:59:36,100 --> 05:59:37,100
in all areas of my life. It

7776
05:59:37,100 --> 05:59:39,100
keeps people like me active,

7777
05:59:39,100 --> 05:59:40,100
focused, and as we just heard

7778
05:59:40,100 --> 05:59:42,100
from Mose, keeps us out

7779
05:59:42,100 --> 05:59:44,100
of trouble. But right now in

7780
05:59:44,100 --> 05:59:45,100
Forestville, we don't have a

7781
05:59:45,100 --> 05:59:48,100
safe place to skate. And

7782
05:59:48,100 --> 05:59:49,100
because of that Skaters are

7783
05:59:49,100 --> 05:59:50,100
forced to leave their own very

7784
05:59:50,100 --> 05:59:52,100
community just to participate

7785
05:59:52,100 --> 05:59:53,100
in the activity that they love.

7786
05:59:53,100 --> 05:59:54,100
A skate park isn't just a safe

7787
05:59:54,100 --> 05:59:56,100
place to ride. It's a place

7788
05:59:56,100 --> 05:59:57,100
that brings people together and

7789
05:59:57,100 --> 05:59:58,100
gives youth a positive outlet,

7790
05:59:58,100 --> 06:00:00,100
whether you choose

7791
06:00:00,100 --> 06:00:01,100
to skateboard or not. As

7792
06:00:01,100 --> 06:00:03,100
skateboarders, we also

7793
06:00:03,100 --> 06:00:04,100
understand the responsibility

7794
06:00:04,100 --> 06:00:05,100
that comes with having a space

7795
06:00:05,100 --> 06:00:06,100
like this.

7796
06:00:06,100 --> 06:00:07,100
Across communities,

7797
06:00:07,100 --> 06:00:08,100
skaters take pride

7798
06:00:08,100 --> 06:00:09,100
in maintaining their parks,

7799
06:00:09,100 --> 06:00:11,100
picking up trash,

7800
06:00:11,100 --> 06:00:12,100
respecting the space,

7801
06:00:12,100 --> 06:00:13,100
and looking out

7802
06:00:13,100 --> 06:00:14,100
for one another. If and when

7803
06:00:14,100 --> 06:00:15,100
Forestville builds a skate

7804
06:00:15,100 --> 06:00:16,100
park, we will take ownership of

7805
06:00:16,100 --> 06:00:18,100
it alongside the entity that

7806
06:00:18,100 --> 06:00:20,100
decides to maintain it

7807
06:00:20,100 --> 06:00:22,100
with us. The benefits of a

7808
06:00:22,100 --> 06:00:23,100
skate park extend much further

7809
06:00:23,100 --> 06:00:25,100
than just to those who skate.

7810
06:00:25,100 --> 06:00:27,100
We've already heard from Bert

7811
06:00:27,100 --> 06:00:28,100
here, and we've seen what a

7812
06:00:28,100 --> 06:00:29,100
skate park can do

7813
06:00:29,100 --> 06:00:31,100
for a community. Nearby in

7814
06:00:31,100 --> 06:00:32,100
Santa Rosa. The one I'm

7815
06:00:32,100 --> 06:00:34,100
speaking of is Andy's Unity

7816
06:00:34,100 --> 06:00:35,100
park, and it was built

7817
06:00:35,100 --> 06:00:36,100
with the help

7818
06:00:36,100 --> 06:00:38,100
of regional parks. It became a

7819
06:00:38,100 --> 06:00:40,401
place for youth, families,

7820
06:00:41,100 --> 06:00:42,100
and also for connection.

7821
06:00:42,100 --> 06:00:43,100
But that space only came

7822
06:00:43,100 --> 06:00:45,100
after a tragedy, the loss

7823
06:00:45,100 --> 06:00:46,100
of a young boy, Andy Lopez. It

7824
06:00:46,100 --> 06:00:48,100
should never take a tragedy

7825
06:00:48,100 --> 06:00:49,100
to create a safe place

7826
06:00:49,100 --> 06:00:51,100
for young people

7827
06:00:52,100 --> 06:00:54,100
in any community. So today we

7828
06:00:54,100 --> 06:00:56,100
have the opportunity

7829
06:00:56,100 --> 06:00:58,100
to build something positive,

7830
06:00:58,100 --> 06:00:59,100
something that supports youth

7831
06:00:59,100 --> 06:01:01,100
and promotes community. I ask

7832
06:01:01,100 --> 06:01:02,100
you to consider what a skate

7833
06:01:02,100 --> 06:01:03,100
park could mean

7834
06:01:03,100 --> 06:01:04,100
for this community, not just

7835
06:01:04,100 --> 06:01:06,100
for skaters, but

7836
06:01:06,100 --> 06:01:08,401
for everyone. Thank you.

7837
06:01:13,100 --> 06:01:14,100
>> And let's all be aware that

7838
06:01:14,100 --> 06:01:15,100
that young man,

7839
06:01:15,100 --> 06:01:16,100
this was a senior project

7840
06:01:16,100 --> 06:01:17,100
over 10 years ago,

7841
06:01:17,100 --> 06:01:18,100
and he's the guy who kind

7842
06:01:18,100 --> 06:01:20,100
of started it all. So thanks,

7843
06:01:20,100 --> 06:01:22,401
Ellery, for that. Go

7844
06:01:23,100 --> 06:01:24,100
down a little bit. My name is

7845
06:01:24,100 --> 06:01:26,100
Lucy Hardcastle. I am president

7846
06:01:26,100 --> 06:01:28,100
of what is now known as the

7847
06:01:28,100 --> 06:01:29,100
Forestville Partnership

7848
06:01:29,100 --> 06:01:31,100
alliance, formerly the

7849
06:01:31,100 --> 06:01:32,100
Forestville Planning

7850
06:01:32,100 --> 06:01:34,401
Association. And I'm here

7851
06:01:35,100 --> 06:01:38,100
to speak on behalf the county

7852
06:01:38,100 --> 06:01:39,100
in front of all of you, to ask

7853
06:01:39,100 --> 06:01:42,100
to open up your minds a little

7854
06:01:42,100 --> 06:01:44,100
bit and see if there is a way

7855
06:01:44,100 --> 06:01:46,100
to work together

7856
06:01:46,100 --> 06:01:48,100
with community parks. We

7857
06:01:48,100 --> 06:01:49,100
probably all know that study

7858
06:01:49,100 --> 06:01:51,100
after study shows that people,

7859
06:01:51,100 --> 06:01:52,100
humans,

7860
06:01:52,100 --> 06:01:53,100
do better when they have access

7861
06:01:53,100 --> 06:01:56,100
to nature and the outdoors.

7862
06:01:56,100 --> 06:01:57,100
Some of our population, easy

7863
06:01:57,100 --> 06:01:59,100
access, state, city, county

7864
06:01:59,100 --> 06:02:02,100
parks, Others, not so much,

7865
06:02:02,100 --> 06:02:04,100
especially the young and the

7866
06:02:04,100 --> 06:02:05,100
elderly. It's important

7867
06:02:05,100 --> 06:02:07,100
for us as well to have access

7868
06:02:07,100 --> 06:02:10,100
to green spaces where we can

7869
06:02:10,100 --> 06:02:11,100
relax, renew, and even play.

7870
06:02:11,100 --> 06:02:13,100
You can find a lot

7871
06:02:13,100 --> 06:02:14,100
of these spaces tucked

7872
06:02:14,100 --> 06:02:15,100
into cities themselves. Little

7873
06:02:15,100 --> 06:02:17,100
tiny parks

7874
06:02:17,100 --> 06:02:19,100
within walking distance.

7875
06:02:19,100 --> 06:02:20,100
But not so much

7876
06:02:20,100 --> 06:02:22,100
in unincorporated West

7877
06:02:22,100 --> 06:02:25,100
County. As a matter of fact,

7878
06:02:25,100 --> 06:02:27,100
almost all

7879
06:02:28,100 --> 06:02:29,100
of the open space you see in

7880
06:02:29,100 --> 06:02:30,100
west county is privately owned.

7881
06:02:30,100 --> 06:02:32,100
It's inaccessible. Some scrappy

7882
06:02:32,100 --> 06:02:34,100
nonprofits have carved

7883
06:02:35,100 --> 06:02:37,100
out privately owned

7884
06:02:37,100 --> 06:02:38,100
but publicly open

7885
06:02:38,100 --> 06:02:40,100
to the public, parcels which

7886
06:02:40,100 --> 06:02:41,100
very much serve a community

7887
06:02:41,100 --> 06:02:43,100
need. But more even important

7888
06:02:43,100 --> 06:02:44,100
than that is they create a

7889
06:02:44,100 --> 06:02:45,100
strong community

7890
06:02:45,100 --> 06:02:47,100
by their very existence. The

7891
06:02:47,100 --> 06:02:48,100
forceful farmers market,

7892
06:02:48,100 --> 06:02:50,100
the fun runs, pie

7893
06:02:50,100 --> 06:02:52,100
in the park,

7894
06:02:53,100 --> 06:02:56,100
holiday tree lighting at the

7895
06:02:56,100 --> 06:02:58,100
Forestville downtown Oaks park

7896
06:02:58,100 --> 06:03:00,100
comes to mind. Also known as

7897
06:03:00,100 --> 06:03:02,100
Forever Forestville

7898
06:03:02,100 --> 06:03:03,100
for ag and open space folks,

7899
06:03:03,100 --> 06:03:05,100
the youth park has served up

7900
06:03:05,100 --> 06:03:06,100
decades

7901
06:03:06,100 --> 06:03:07,100
of small town community fun.

7902
06:03:07,100 --> 06:03:09,100
Residents have spent their

7903
06:03:09,100 --> 06:03:12,100
summers at the youth park

7904
06:03:12,100 --> 06:03:13,100
playing baseball. Maybe their

7905
06:03:13,100 --> 06:03:15,100
first job was working the

7906
06:03:15,100 --> 06:03:16,100
concession stand. Family

7907
06:03:16,100 --> 06:03:18,100
attends movies in the park.

7908
06:03:18,100 --> 06:03:19,100
Easter egg hunt coming up

7909
06:03:19,100 --> 06:03:21,100
pretty soon, April 4th. And

7910
06:03:21,100 --> 06:03:23,100
thousands enjoy their youth

7911
06:03:23,100 --> 06:03:24,100
park barbecue. These

7912
06:03:24,100 --> 06:03:26,100
experiences,

7913
06:03:26,100 --> 06:03:27,100
as vital as they are

7914
06:03:27,100 --> 06:03:29,100
to the spirit

7915
06:03:29,100 --> 06:03:30,100
of our community,

7916
06:03:30,100 --> 06:03:32,100
are not that easy to create.

7917
06:03:32,100 --> 06:03:33,100
Thank you so much. So hope you

7918
06:03:33,100 --> 06:03:35,100
can help us.

7919
06:03:38,100 --> 06:03:39,100
>> Hi, I'm Bess Da Copestakes.

7920
06:03:39,100 --> 06:03:41,100
I've been a resident of

7921
06:03:41,100 --> 06:03:43,100
Forestville for 36 years. Both

7922
06:03:43,100 --> 06:03:45,100
of my granddaughters were

7923
06:03:45,100 --> 06:03:47,401
skaters with skateboards and

7924
06:03:48,100 --> 06:03:50,100
very long boards. Everything

7925
06:03:50,100 --> 06:03:51,100
you can put wheels

7926
06:03:51,100 --> 06:03:53,100
on your feet.

7927
06:03:53,100 --> 06:03:54,100
But we always had

7928
06:03:54,100 --> 06:03:55,100
to take them other places.

7929
06:03:55,100 --> 06:03:57,100
Monoria was one of the best

7930
06:03:57,100 --> 06:03:58,100
because it took them 10 years

7931
06:03:58,100 --> 06:04:00,100
to establish that skate park.

7932
06:04:00,100 --> 06:04:01,100
But you have to get

7933
06:04:01,100 --> 06:04:03,100
on a bus if you're an

7934
06:04:03,100 --> 06:04:04,100
individual to get there or rely

7935
06:04:04,100 --> 06:04:05,100
upon parents

7936
06:04:05,100 --> 06:04:06,100
for transportation. Other than

7937
06:04:06,100 --> 06:04:08,100
that, we went to other towns

7938
06:04:08,100 --> 06:04:10,100
for skates. Forestville is very

7939
06:04:10,100 --> 06:04:12,100
oriented towards families.

7940
06:04:13,100 --> 06:04:14,100
It's family friendly

7941
06:04:14,100 --> 06:04:15,100
Forestville. So everything we

7942
06:04:15,100 --> 06:04:17,100
do is family oriented. The

7943
06:04:17,100 --> 06:04:19,100
youth park is team sports. The

7944
06:04:19,100 --> 06:04:21,100
downtown park is community

7945
06:04:21,100 --> 06:04:23,100
gatherings. But we really need

7946
06:04:23,100 --> 06:04:24,100
something that's for

7947
06:04:24,100 --> 06:04:26,100
individuals and individuals,

7948
06:04:26,100 --> 06:04:27,100
especially children who can

7949
06:04:27,100 --> 06:04:28,100
come out

7950
06:04:28,100 --> 06:04:30,100
of their school and go straight

7951
06:04:30,100 --> 06:04:31,100
to a skate park

7952
06:04:31,100 --> 06:04:32,100
to spend time, maybe

7953
06:04:32,100 --> 06:04:33,100
until their parents pick them

7954
06:04:33,100 --> 06:04:35,100
up after school. It's also

7955
06:04:35,100 --> 06:04:36,100
accessible to Grayton because

7956
06:04:36,100 --> 06:04:38,100
the regional park's West

7957
06:04:38,100 --> 06:04:39,100
County Trail goes all the way

7958
06:04:39,100 --> 06:04:41,100
from Sebastopol to. To

7959
06:04:41,100 --> 06:04:43,100
Forestville and ends right

7960
06:04:43,100 --> 06:04:45,100
there. It's an opportunity

7961
06:04:45,100 --> 06:04:46,100
for not just Forestville youth

7962
06:04:46,100 --> 06:04:48,100
and families, but also for the

7963
06:04:48,100 --> 06:04:50,100
surrounding communities because

7964
06:04:50,100 --> 06:04:51,100
the buses will go right there

7965
06:04:51,100 --> 06:04:53,100
too. It's so easy and

7966
06:04:53,100 --> 06:04:55,100
accessible.

7967
06:04:55,100 --> 06:04:56,100
But the one thing we don't have

7968
06:04:56,100 --> 06:04:58,100
around the whole,

7969
06:04:59,100 --> 06:05:00,100
in our whole, all our parks is

7970
06:05:00,100 --> 06:05:01,100
maintenance that's paid

7971
06:05:01,100 --> 06:05:03,100
for outside

7972
06:05:03,100 --> 06:05:04,100
of our volunteer time. And so

7973
06:05:04,100 --> 06:05:06,100
we all take care

7974
06:05:06,100 --> 06:05:07,100
of our parks, all

7975
06:05:07,100 --> 06:05:08,100
of our parks.

7976
06:05:08,100 --> 06:05:10,100
But this is one that's probably

7977
06:05:10,100 --> 06:05:11,100
beyond us. And that's why we

7978
06:05:11,100 --> 06:05:12,100
really need some help. It's a

7979
06:05:12,100 --> 06:05:14,100
very structured and serious

7980
06:05:14,100 --> 06:05:15,100
infrastructure creating this

7981
06:05:15,100 --> 06:05:17,100
skate park. So it would be

7982
06:05:17,100 --> 06:05:18,100
essential, in essence,

7983
06:05:18,100 --> 06:05:20,100
to have that help from

7984
06:05:20,100 --> 06:05:22,100
Regional Parks, which is

7985
06:05:22,100 --> 06:05:24,100
already in Forestville

7986
06:05:24,100 --> 06:05:25,100
with the West County Trail and

7987
06:05:25,100 --> 06:05:27,100
their maintenance yard up

7988
06:05:27,100 --> 06:05:28,100
at the El Molino campus. So

7989
06:05:28,100 --> 06:05:30,100
it's perfect. Absolutely

7990
06:05:30,100 --> 06:05:32,100
perfect. Right. Thank you.

7991
06:05:32,100 --> 06:05:34,100
>> Thank you.

7992
06:05:41,100 --> 06:05:43,100
>> Hello. My name is Deborah

7993
06:05:43,100 --> 06:05:45,100
Cabria. I live in downtown

7994
06:05:45,100 --> 06:05:47,401
Sebastopol. I was volunteer

7995
06:05:48,100 --> 06:05:50,100
with a nonprofit West County

7996
06:05:50,100 --> 06:05:52,100
Skate park. We got the Lagoon

7997
06:05:52,100 --> 06:05:54,100
Escape Garden built

7998
06:05:54,100 --> 06:05:57,100
with the help from Kenyon

7999
06:05:57,100 --> 06:05:58,100
Webster, the city planner and

8000
06:05:58,100 --> 06:06:00,100
other city officials, the

8001
06:06:00,100 --> 06:06:02,100
youth, parents, grandparents

8002
06:06:02,100 --> 06:06:03,100
and all the other volunteers.

8003
06:06:03,100 --> 06:06:05,100
It brought the youth together

8004
06:06:05,100 --> 06:06:07,100
to rally for their park. It was

8005
06:06:07,100 --> 06:06:08,100
a wonderful experience

8006
06:06:08,100 --> 06:06:10,100
for all involved and continues

8007
06:06:10,100 --> 06:06:14,100
to be enjoyed by all. We dealt

8008
06:06:14,100 --> 06:06:16,100
with questions that came up and

8009
06:06:16,100 --> 06:06:18,100
we all solved them together.

8010
06:06:18,100 --> 06:06:20,100
We persevered. What a great

8011
06:06:20,100 --> 06:06:23,100
experience and lesson to teach

8012
06:06:23,100 --> 06:06:25,100
our children. I believe it's

8013
06:06:25,100 --> 06:06:26,100
the most used park in

8014
06:06:26,100 --> 06:06:28,100
Sebastopol. We had and have

8015
06:06:28,100 --> 06:06:30,100
volunteers that participate

8016
06:06:31,100 --> 06:06:33,100
in activities. For example,

8017
06:06:33,100 --> 06:06:34,100
the volunteers that were set up

8018
06:06:34,100 --> 06:06:36,100
for locking the park

8019
06:06:36,100 --> 06:06:38,100
in the evening.

8020
06:06:38,100 --> 06:06:40,100
Till this day,

8021
06:06:40,100 --> 06:06:41,100
a volunteer locks it

8022
06:06:41,100 --> 06:06:43,100
at night and keeps in touch

8023
06:06:43,100 --> 06:06:44,100
with city officials. I also

8024
06:06:44,100 --> 06:06:46,100
remember being in touch with

8025
06:06:46,100 --> 06:06:47,100
Dante who used the public work,

8026
06:06:47,100 --> 06:06:49,100
who used to be the public work

8027
06:06:49,100 --> 06:06:50,100
superintendent to ask any

8028
06:06:50,100 --> 06:06:53,100
questions. I urged the board

8029
06:06:53,100 --> 06:06:55,100
to designate and fund Sonoma

8030
06:06:55,100 --> 06:06:57,100
County Regional Parks as long

8031
06:06:57,100 --> 06:06:59,100
term maintenance provider

8032
06:07:01,100 --> 06:07:03,100
for the Forestville Escape

8033
06:07:03,100 --> 06:07:05,401
Spot Neighborhood Park. SCRP

8034
06:07:07,100 --> 06:07:08,100
already has a maintenance hub

8035
06:07:08,100 --> 06:07:09,100
in El Molino just a two minute

8036
06:07:09,100 --> 06:07:11,100
drive from our site. This is an

8037
06:07:11,100 --> 06:07:13,100
efficient, common sense

8038
06:07:13,100 --> 06:07:14,100
solution that honors the intent

8039
06:07:14,100 --> 06:07:17,100
of the Measure M parks. For all

8040
06:07:17,100 --> 06:07:19,100
funds our community

8041
06:07:19,100 --> 06:07:21,100
overwhelmingly supported.

8042
06:07:21,100 --> 06:07:22,100
Please provide SCRP the

8043
06:07:22,100 --> 06:07:25,100
resources they need to serve

8044
06:07:26,100 --> 06:07:27,100
our youth and families. Thank

8045
06:07:27,100 --> 06:07:29,100
you very much.

8046
06:07:30,100 --> 06:07:32,100
>> Thank you.

8047
06:07:32,100 --> 06:07:34,100
>> Thank you.

8048
06:07:38,100 --> 06:07:40,100
>> Greetings. My name is

8049
06:07:40,100 --> 06:07:41,100
Timothy, last name is Lane. I

8050
06:07:41,100 --> 06:07:43,100
live in Sebastopol and I've had

8051
06:07:43,100 --> 06:07:44,100
the pleasure of working with

8052
06:07:44,100 --> 06:07:46,100
Deborah and many other people

8053
06:07:46,100 --> 06:07:47,100
in Sebastopol to get our skate

8054
06:07:47,100 --> 06:07:49,401
park built and maintained

8055
06:07:50,100 --> 06:07:52,100
over the years. It's been 18

8056
06:07:52,100 --> 06:07:53,100
plus years now and it's been

8057
06:07:53,100 --> 06:07:55,100
been a real honor to be part

8058
06:07:55,100 --> 06:07:56,100
of that. And I'd like

8059
06:07:56,100 --> 06:07:57,100
to thank you all

8060
06:07:57,100 --> 06:07:58,100
for your service

8061
06:07:58,100 --> 06:07:59,100
to our communities. I moved

8062
06:07:59,100 --> 06:08:00,100
to Sebastopol from San

8063
06:08:00,100 --> 06:08:01,100
Francisco in 1996. Great place

8064
06:08:01,100 --> 06:08:03,100
to raise my kids and I'm now

8065
06:08:03,100 --> 06:08:04,100
proudly. I'm going to be a

8066
06:08:04,100 --> 06:08:06,100
second grandfather here coming

8067
06:08:06,100 --> 06:08:08,100
up next month. And I'm just

8068
06:08:08,100 --> 06:08:09,100
deeply grateful for everything

8069
06:08:09,100 --> 06:08:10,100
that my children were able

8070
06:08:10,100 --> 06:08:12,100
to receive

8071
06:08:12,100 --> 06:08:14,100
from the communities here.

8072
06:08:14,100 --> 06:08:17,100
Jackie called to kind of get

8073
06:08:17,100 --> 06:08:19,100
the ball rolling years ago when

8074
06:08:19,100 --> 06:08:22,100
she needed a little bit

8075
06:08:22,100 --> 06:08:23,100
of feedback and information

8076
06:08:23,100 --> 06:08:25,401
about our experiences. And

8077
06:08:26,100 --> 06:08:28,100
these are the small steps that

8078
06:08:28,100 --> 06:08:29,100
we take as community to share

8079
06:08:29,100 --> 06:08:31,100
our knowledge and experiences

8080
06:08:31,100 --> 06:08:33,100
together

8081
06:08:33,100 --> 06:08:35,100
to enrich our community.

8082
06:08:35,100 --> 06:08:37,100
There's no doubt that, I mean,

8083
06:08:37,100 --> 06:08:38,100
it's a tough act to follow when

8084
06:08:38,100 --> 06:08:39,100
you've got these amazing kids

8085
06:08:39,100 --> 06:08:40,100
bringing tears to our eyes,

8086
06:08:40,100 --> 06:08:41,100
you know, expressing themselves

8087
06:08:41,100 --> 06:08:44,100
and it's just truly incredible.

8088
06:08:45,100 --> 06:08:47,100
I guess the Best thing I could

8089
06:08:47,100 --> 06:08:48,100
say here is in Sebastopol,

8090
06:08:48,100 --> 06:08:50,100
we've done our best

8091
06:08:50,100 --> 06:08:52,100
to maintain the community, or

8092
06:08:52,100 --> 06:08:53,100
rather the park and ensure that

8093
06:08:53,100 --> 06:08:55,100
it's a clean,

8094
06:08:55,100 --> 06:08:56,100
positive environment

8095
06:08:56,100 --> 06:08:58,401
for kids. And we,

8096
06:08:59,100 --> 06:09:01,100
as a skateboard community,

8097
06:09:01,100 --> 06:09:04,100
we do the best that we can to

8098
06:09:04,100 --> 06:09:05,100
self police and if something

8099
06:09:05,100 --> 06:09:08,100
that maybe is inappropriate is

8100
06:09:09,100 --> 06:09:11,100
happening, we speak up. And

8101
06:09:11,100 --> 06:09:13,100
that in turn, generationally,

8102
06:09:13,100 --> 06:09:15,100
I guess you could say,

8103
06:09:15,100 --> 06:09:16,100
is passed on. You know,

8104
06:09:16,100 --> 06:09:18,100
there was kids that I had

8105
06:09:18,100 --> 06:09:19,100
to put in check 10 or 15 years

8106
06:09:19,100 --> 06:09:20,100
ago and I'm friends

8107
06:09:20,100 --> 06:09:22,100
with them now. And every time I

8108
06:09:22,100 --> 06:09:23,100
go to the skate park,

8109
06:09:23,100 --> 06:09:24,100
I've got a new, you know, 14,

8110
06:09:24,100 --> 06:09:26,100
20 year old friend or whatever.

8111
06:09:26,100 --> 06:09:28,100
So as an old geezer that still

8112
06:09:28,100 --> 06:09:29,100
is out there skating,

8113
06:09:29,100 --> 06:09:31,100
I'm grateful for this

8114
06:09:31,100 --> 06:09:33,100
opportunity and grateful

8115
06:09:33,100 --> 06:09:34,100
to be part of this community.

8116
06:09:34,100 --> 06:09:36,100
Thank you for your time.

8117
06:09:36,100 --> 06:09:38,100
>> Thank you.

8118
06:09:42,100 --> 06:09:43,100
>> Good afternoon, I'm

8119
06:09:43,100 --> 06:09:45,100
Jennifer Trauman and I am a

8120
06:09:45,100 --> 06:09:47,100
Forceville resident and a board

8121
06:09:47,100 --> 06:09:49,100
member of the Forceville

8122
06:09:49,100 --> 06:09:51,100
Skate Spot. I wanted

8123
06:09:51,100 --> 06:09:52,100
to thank the board, the public

8124
06:09:52,100 --> 06:09:53,100
infrastructure, regional parks,

8125
06:09:53,100 --> 06:09:55,100
for this opportunity

8126
06:09:55,100 --> 06:09:57,100
to discuss, you know, this very

8127
06:09:57,100 --> 06:09:59,100
needed neighborhood parks.

8128
06:10:00,100 --> 06:10:03,100
When I retired 36 years ago,

8129
06:10:03,100 --> 06:10:06,601
or no, no, not 36 years ago,

8130
06:10:09,100 --> 06:10:10,100
that makes me really old. I

8131
06:10:10,100 --> 06:10:11,100
retired from 36 years

8132
06:10:11,100 --> 06:10:13,100
of county service. It was

8133
06:10:13,100 --> 06:10:14,100
Supervisor Hopkins that thanked

8134
06:10:14,100 --> 06:10:15,100
me for my years

8135
06:10:15,100 --> 06:10:16,100
of service and she said,

8136
06:10:16,100 --> 06:10:18,100
you no longer work for us. We

8137
06:10:18,100 --> 06:10:19,100
as the board work for you. And

8138
06:10:19,100 --> 06:10:21,100
I never thought

8139
06:10:21,100 --> 06:10:23,100
about it that way,

8140
06:10:23,100 --> 06:10:25,100
but here I am. So I am

8141
06:10:25,100 --> 06:10:27,100
passionate about this skate

8142
06:10:27,100 --> 06:10:29,100
park and this project

8143
06:10:29,100 --> 06:10:31,100
for our beautiful town. We are

8144
06:10:31,100 --> 06:10:33,100
in desperate need of a place

8145
06:10:33,100 --> 06:10:34,100
for kids to play and families

8146
06:10:34,100 --> 06:10:36,100
to gather. I raised my kids

8147
06:10:36,100 --> 06:10:38,100
in Forestville and although

8148
06:10:38,100 --> 06:10:40,100
they love the community,

8149
06:10:40,100 --> 06:10:42,100
they dubbed our town

8150
06:10:42,100 --> 06:10:45,100
Boersville due to the lack

8151
06:10:45,100 --> 06:10:46,100
of things

8152
06:10:46,100 --> 06:10:48,100
to do. I often drove them up

8153
06:10:48,100 --> 06:10:50,100
to Healdsburg to skate there.

8154
06:10:50,100 --> 06:10:52,100
It would have been a fantastic

8155
06:10:52,100 --> 06:10:53,100
opportunity to have a park

8156
06:10:53,100 --> 06:10:56,100
to walk to. The process to

8157
06:10:56,100 --> 06:10:58,401
maintain and operate a

8158
06:11:00,100 --> 06:11:02,100
neighborhood park is not

8159
06:11:02,100 --> 06:11:03,100
realistic for our small team

8160
06:11:03,100 --> 06:11:06,100
and limited resources. We did

8161
06:11:06,100 --> 06:11:07,100
understand that maybe measure M

8162
06:11:07,100 --> 06:11:09,100
could address this. The

8163
06:11:09,100 --> 06:11:10,100
infrastructure in place at

8164
06:11:10,100 --> 06:11:12,100
regional parks makes sense as

8165
06:11:12,100 --> 06:11:14,100
they are equipped with the

8166
06:11:14,100 --> 06:11:16,401
personnel and the expertise

8167
06:11:17,100 --> 06:11:20,100
to operate parks. The costs

8168
06:11:20,100 --> 06:11:21,100
associated with the maintenance

8169
06:11:21,100 --> 06:11:23,100
and operations

8170
06:11:23,100 --> 06:11:26,100
of our very small park are low.

8171
06:11:26,100 --> 06:11:28,100
And with the stewards

8172
06:11:28,100 --> 06:11:29,100
of the state skate park

8173
06:11:29,100 --> 06:11:31,100
in conjunction

8174
06:11:31,100 --> 06:11:32,100
with regional parks, it makes

8175
06:11:32,100 --> 06:11:34,401
it achievable and inexpensive.

8176
06:11:35,100 --> 06:11:36,100
We highly encourage the board

8177
06:11:36,100 --> 06:11:38,100
to consider assigning the

8178
06:11:38,100 --> 06:11:39,100
maintenance and operations

8179
06:11:39,100 --> 06:11:40,100
of the forceful skate spot

8180
06:11:40,100 --> 06:11:42,100
to regional parks. And thank

8181
06:11:42,100 --> 06:11:44,401
you for your time.

8182
06:11:48,100 --> 06:11:50,100
>> Let's give it up for these

8183
06:11:50,100 --> 06:11:51,100
kids that showed up today,

8184
06:11:51,100 --> 06:11:53,100
huh? How awesome

8185
06:11:54,100 --> 06:11:56,100
to stand up here. You guys are

8186
06:11:56,100 --> 06:11:57,100
awesome. So good and well

8187
06:11:57,100 --> 06:11:58,100
Behaved, right. Awesome.

8188
06:11:58,100 --> 06:12:01,100
Great. So let's give them a

8189
06:12:01,100 --> 06:12:03,100
skate park already. Come on.

8190
06:12:03,100 --> 06:12:05,100
Right. My name is Eric. I've

8191
06:12:05,100 --> 06:12:07,100
been skateboarding, obviously

8192
06:12:07,100 --> 06:12:09,100
for over four decades.

8193
06:12:09,100 --> 06:12:11,100
Inherently. I'm a builder too,

8194
06:12:11,100 --> 06:12:12,100
you know,

8195
06:12:12,100 --> 06:12:14,100
being a skateboarder. And so we

8196
06:12:14,100 --> 06:12:15,100
know how to, you know,

8197
06:12:15,100 --> 06:12:16,100
if you build it right, it won't

8198
06:12:16,100 --> 06:12:18,100
need hardly any maintenance

8199
06:12:18,100 --> 06:12:20,100
at all. It's

8200
06:12:20,100 --> 06:12:21,100
like the easiest thing. What

8201
06:12:21,100 --> 06:12:22,100
you need a broom, right? And

8202
06:12:22,100 --> 06:12:23,100
the kids skate in it,

8203
06:12:23,100 --> 06:12:24,100
are going to take care of it,

8204
06:12:24,100 --> 06:12:25,100
Trust me. They're going

8205
06:12:25,100 --> 06:12:27,100
to be there every day.

8206
06:12:27,100 --> 06:12:28,100
Like they said. It was going

8207
06:12:28,100 --> 06:12:29,100
to take them 30 minutes to get

8208
06:12:29,100 --> 06:12:31,100
to the closest park. That's an

8209
06:12:31,100 --> 06:12:33,100
hour round trip, Wednesday,

8210
06:12:33,100 --> 06:12:35,100
school day, whatever. They

8211
06:12:35,100 --> 06:12:36,100
don't have time for that.

8212
06:12:36,100 --> 06:12:37,100
Right. Get out of school,

8213
06:12:37,100 --> 06:12:39,100
hit the park every day, 15,

8214
06:12:39,100 --> 06:12:40,100
20, 30 minutes, boom. And

8215
06:12:40,100 --> 06:12:41,100
they're going to be awesome

8216
06:12:41,100 --> 06:12:43,100
at skateboarding. It's not just

8217
06:12:43,100 --> 06:12:44,100
about skateboarding. They're

8218
06:12:44,100 --> 06:12:45,100
going to own the space,

8219
06:12:45,100 --> 06:12:46,100
they're going to take care

8220
06:12:46,100 --> 06:12:47,100
of it. It's going

8221
06:12:47,100 --> 06:12:48,100
to give them a pride

8222
06:12:48,100 --> 06:12:49,100
of ownership,

8223
06:12:49,100 --> 06:12:50,100
you know what I mean?

8224
06:12:50,100 --> 06:12:51,100
Like an empowerment. And

8225
06:12:51,100 --> 06:12:52,100
there's just so many other

8226
06:12:52,100 --> 06:12:54,100
benefits. This is such an easy

8227
06:12:54,100 --> 06:12:55,100
thing. And the return

8228
06:12:55,100 --> 06:12:56,100
on investment is so incredible.

8229
06:12:56,100 --> 06:12:57,100
It's like,

8230
06:12:57,100 --> 06:12:59,100
why haven't we done this yet?

8231
06:12:59,100 --> 06:13:00,100
Let's give them a park. Let's

8232
06:13:00,100 --> 06:13:02,401
give them the responsibility,

8233
06:13:03,100 --> 06:13:04,100
taking care of it. We maintain

8234
06:13:04,100 --> 06:13:05,100
it ourselves. We take

8235
06:13:05,100 --> 06:13:07,100
out the trash, we clean it,

8236
06:13:07,100 --> 06:13:09,100
keep it clean because we want

8237
06:13:09,100 --> 06:13:10,100
to skate. It's a passion thing.

8238
06:13:10,100 --> 06:13:11,100
So let's, let's give it

8239
06:13:11,100 --> 06:13:13,100
to them.

8240
06:13:13,100 --> 06:13:14,100
>> All right, thanks. Thank

8241
06:13:14,100 --> 06:13:16,100
you.

8242
06:13:20,100 --> 06:13:22,100
>> Hello, my name is William

8243
06:13:22,100 --> 06:13:23,100
Tobler. Thank you all

8244
06:13:23,100 --> 06:13:25,100
for allowing me to speak,

8245
06:13:25,100 --> 06:13:26,100
people

8246
06:13:26,100 --> 06:13:27,100
of the board and the parks,

8247
06:13:27,100 --> 06:13:28,100
for taking your time

8248
06:13:28,100 --> 06:13:29,100
to come out. I am here to talk

8249
06:13:29,100 --> 06:13:32,100
about skate parks and my

8250
06:13:32,100 --> 06:13:33,100
experience of 40 years

8251
06:13:33,100 --> 06:13:35,100
of skateboarding in the Sonoma

8252
06:13:35,100 --> 06:13:37,100
county community. Helping build

8253
06:13:37,100 --> 06:13:39,100
private projects and DIY spots

8254
06:13:39,100 --> 06:13:40,100
and knowing what it takes

8255
06:13:40,100 --> 06:13:42,100
to build, maintain, and keep

8256
06:13:42,100 --> 06:13:45,100
those things up. I've been

8257
06:13:45,100 --> 06:13:47,100
skateboarding at Santa Rosa

8258
06:13:47,100 --> 06:13:48,100
Skatepark since it opened

8259
06:13:48,100 --> 06:13:50,100
Sebastopol. I have multiple

8260
06:13:50,100 --> 06:13:52,100
friends who have helped build

8261
06:13:52,100 --> 06:13:54,100
it and maintain it. And so I'm

8262
06:13:54,100 --> 06:13:56,100
also the instructor at the

8263
06:13:56,100 --> 06:13:58,100
after school Forestville

8264
06:13:58,100 --> 06:13:59,100
Skateboard Program. I've been

8265
06:13:59,100 --> 06:14:01,100
doing that since it started.

8266
06:14:01,100 --> 06:14:02,100
And work with these wonderful

8267
06:14:02,100 --> 06:14:03,100
kids who took their time

8268
06:14:03,100 --> 06:14:05,100
to come out today. Missing

8269
06:14:05,100 --> 06:14:06,100
school. We all know how bad

8270
06:14:06,100 --> 06:14:08,100
that is. And so I would just

8271
06:14:08,100 --> 06:14:09,100
like

8272
06:14:09,100 --> 06:14:11,100
to let everybody know that we,

8273
06:14:11,100 --> 06:14:12,100
we know how to maintain the

8274
06:14:12,100 --> 06:14:14,100
parks and we could work well

8275
06:14:14,100 --> 06:14:16,100
with you guys to set up a

8276
06:14:16,100 --> 06:14:18,100
viable option that is low cost

8277
06:14:18,100 --> 06:14:21,100
and low hours, man hours

8278
06:14:21,100 --> 06:14:23,100
for you guys to where

8279
06:14:23,100 --> 06:14:24,100
skateboarders such as myself

8280
06:14:24,100 --> 06:14:26,100
and older generation can teach

8281
06:14:26,100 --> 06:14:28,100
the younger ones, as Eric was

8282
06:14:28,100 --> 06:14:30,100
saying, that they know how

8283
06:14:30,100 --> 06:14:31,100
to take care of it and pick it

8284
06:14:31,100 --> 06:14:33,100
up and occasionally you have

8285
06:14:33,100 --> 06:14:34,100
chipped concrete and things

8286
06:14:34,100 --> 06:14:36,100
like that. And it doesn't take

8287
06:14:36,100 --> 06:14:37,100
very much to fix that. So I

8288
06:14:37,100 --> 06:14:38,100
would just like

8289
06:14:38,100 --> 06:14:40,100
to say thank you

8290
06:14:40,100 --> 06:14:41,100
for allowing me to speak and I

8291
06:14:41,100 --> 06:14:42,100
hope that we can work well

8292
06:14:42,100 --> 06:14:43,100
with each other

8293
06:14:43,100 --> 06:14:44,100
in the future. Thank you.

8294
06:14:44,100 --> 06:14:46,100
>> Thank you.

8295
06:14:50,100 --> 06:14:52,100
>> Hi, my name is Robin Shop

8296
06:14:52,100 --> 06:14:53,100
Bell and I live in

8297
06:14:53,100 --> 06:14:54,100
Forestville. Also, thank you

8298
06:14:54,100 --> 06:14:56,100
very much for being open minded

8299
06:14:56,100 --> 06:14:57,100
and creative as we work

8300
06:14:57,100 --> 06:14:59,100
together

8301
06:14:59,100 --> 06:15:00,100
to support the creation

8302
06:15:00,100 --> 06:15:02,100
of a joyful, rejuvenating park

8303
06:15:02,100 --> 06:15:04,100
in Forestville. When my

8304
06:15:04,100 --> 06:15:06,401
neighbors and I voted

8305
06:15:07,100 --> 06:15:09,401
to increase our taxes

8306
06:15:11,100 --> 06:15:12,100
for parks, Skate Spot was

8307
06:15:12,100 --> 06:15:14,100
exactly what we imagined. This

8308
06:15:14,100 --> 06:15:15,100
clean,

8309
06:15:15,100 --> 06:15:16,100
safe park will be a great space

8310
06:15:16,100 --> 06:15:18,100
for connection and recreation,

8311
06:15:18,100 --> 06:15:20,100
for building,

8312
06:15:20,100 --> 06:15:22,100
strengthening community.

8313
06:15:22,100 --> 06:15:24,100
But much

8314
06:15:24,100 --> 06:15:26,100
like a free democratic society,

8315
06:15:26,100 --> 06:15:28,401
a park requires consistent,

8316
06:15:29,100 --> 06:15:31,401
dedicated care and maintenance.

8317
06:15:32,100 --> 06:15:35,100
We must secure a plan to upkeep

8318
06:15:35,100 --> 06:15:37,100
this park so that it fulfills

8319
06:15:37,100 --> 06:15:39,100
its promise into the future.

8320
06:15:39,100 --> 06:15:42,100
So I'm urging the board

8321
06:15:42,100 --> 06:15:45,100
to designate and fund Sonoma

8322
06:15:45,100 --> 06:15:47,100
County Regional Parks as the

8323
06:15:47,100 --> 06:15:49,100
long term maintenance provider

8324
06:15:49,100 --> 06:15:51,100
for the Forestville Skate Spot

8325
06:15:51,100 --> 06:15:53,401
neighborhood park. Thank you

8326
06:15:54,100 --> 06:15:55,100
for considering this common

8327
06:15:55,100 --> 06:15:57,100
sense approach for maintaining

8328
06:15:57,100 --> 06:15:58,100
our newest neighborhood asset.

8329
06:15:58,100 --> 06:16:00,100
Thank you.

8330
06:16:06,100 --> 06:16:08,100
>> Hi, my name is Kim

8331
06:16:08,100 --> 06:16:09,100
Lockhart. I'm the co owner

8332
06:16:09,100 --> 06:16:11,100
of the Monterio Theater. I'm

8333
06:16:11,100 --> 06:16:13,100
actually not here to talk

8334
06:16:13,100 --> 06:16:14,100
about the Forestville Skate

8335
06:16:14,100 --> 06:16:15,100
park, but we did a fundraiser

8336
06:16:15,100 --> 06:16:17,100
for you guys and we know

8337
06:16:17,100 --> 06:16:19,100
they're wonderful neighbors and

8338
06:16:19,100 --> 06:16:20,100
they're so worth it. And so I'm

8339
06:16:20,100 --> 06:16:22,401
happy they're here supporting

8340
06:16:23,100 --> 06:16:24,100
their cause. And I wanted

8341
06:16:24,100 --> 06:16:25,100
to say that actually

8342
06:16:25,100 --> 06:16:27,100
on the same topic,

8343
06:16:27,100 --> 06:16:29,100
we would love

8344
06:16:29,100 --> 06:16:30,100
to turn the lawn area next

8345
06:16:30,100 --> 06:16:31,100
to the Monterio Theater

8346
06:16:31,100 --> 06:16:33,100
into a public park. The

8347
06:16:33,100 --> 06:16:35,100
Monterio Theater has been there

8348
06:16:35,100 --> 06:16:36,100
for now 76 years. We've done so

8349
06:16:36,100 --> 06:16:38,100
many events

8350
06:16:38,100 --> 06:16:39,100
for the community,

8351
06:16:39,100 --> 06:16:40,100
which they love. And we know

8352
06:16:40,100 --> 06:16:42,100
they love it because they come

8353
06:16:42,100 --> 06:16:43,100
out. So it's movies, it's live

8354
06:16:43,100 --> 06:16:44,100
music, it's costume contests,

8355
06:16:44,100 --> 06:16:46,100
it's fundraisers,

8356
06:16:46,100 --> 06:16:48,100
it's any kind

8357
06:16:51,100 --> 06:16:52,100
of school fundraisers.

8358
06:16:52,100 --> 06:16:54,100
Anything you can imagine,

8359
06:16:54,100 --> 06:16:55,100
we've done. We painted it pink

8360
06:16:55,100 --> 06:16:57,100
for Barbie, as you may have

8361
06:16:57,100 --> 06:16:58,100
seen.

8362
06:16:58,100 --> 06:17:00,100
But when we approached looking

8363
06:17:00,100 --> 06:17:01,100
into a grant for community

8364
06:17:01,100 --> 06:17:03,100
space a few years ago,

8365
06:17:03,100 --> 06:17:05,100
the issue for us since

8366
06:17:05,100 --> 06:17:07,100
Monterio Parks and Rec was our

8367
06:17:07,100 --> 06:17:09,100
only public agency,

8368
06:17:09,100 --> 06:17:11,100
is they also felt daunted

8369
06:17:11,100 --> 06:17:12,100
about the maintenance. And that

8370
06:17:12,100 --> 06:17:13,100
was the reason they didn't want

8371
06:17:13,100 --> 06:17:15,100
to be our partners because it

8372
06:17:15,100 --> 06:17:16,100
seemed too much to take on,

8373
06:17:16,100 --> 06:17:18,100
even though they're really our

8374
06:17:18,100 --> 06:17:20,100
only applicant. So I would love

8375
06:17:20,100 --> 06:17:24,100
to ask Bohemian Grove to be our

8376
06:17:24,100 --> 06:17:25,100
funder. I think they have a

8377
06:17:25,100 --> 06:17:28,100
huge history like we do.

8378
06:17:28,100 --> 06:17:29,100
But I do need help figuring

8379
06:17:29,100 --> 06:17:31,100
out who could be the applicant

8380
06:17:31,100 --> 06:17:33,100
to do the part. As the steward

8381
06:17:33,100 --> 06:17:34,100
and maintenance, it does seem

8382
06:17:34,100 --> 06:17:36,100
to be the issue that comes up.

8383
06:17:36,100 --> 06:17:37,100
So I appreciate any help

8384
06:17:37,100 --> 06:17:38,100
with that. Thank you.

8385
06:17:38,100 --> 06:17:40,100
>> Thank you.

8386
06:17:43,100 --> 06:17:45,100
>> Greetings, everyone. I'm

8387
06:17:45,100 --> 06:17:46,100
going

8388
06:17:46,100 --> 06:17:47,100
to bring this full circle. I'm

8389
06:17:47,100 --> 06:17:49,100
John Koontz, and I live

8390
06:17:49,100 --> 06:17:50,100
in the afterglow

8391
06:17:50,100 --> 06:17:52,100
of my amazing wife, Jackie

8392
06:17:52,100 --> 06:17:53,100
Brazile, and our son, Ellery.

8393
06:17:53,100 --> 06:17:55,100
And I'm going to finish the

8394
06:17:55,100 --> 06:17:57,100
thoughts that she began just

8395
06:17:57,100 --> 06:17:59,100
when the public convent

8396
06:17:59,100 --> 06:18:01,100
started. We aren't asking

8397
06:18:01,100 --> 06:18:03,100
Regional Parks

8398
06:18:03,100 --> 06:18:05,100
to build our park. We are

8399
06:18:05,100 --> 06:18:06,100
asking to be your partner as

8400
06:18:06,100 --> 06:18:08,401
your new belongings framework

8401
06:18:09,100 --> 06:18:12,100
aspires to. Our community is

8402
06:18:12,100 --> 06:18:14,100
already raising the funds and

8403
06:18:14,100 --> 06:18:16,100
will provide stewardship. We

8404
06:18:16,100 --> 06:18:18,100
only ask that the parks

8405
06:18:18,100 --> 06:18:20,100
department handle maintenance.

8406
06:18:21,100 --> 06:18:22,100
A 2.8 acre neighborhood park is

8407
06:18:22,100 --> 06:18:24,100
minimal compared to the vast

8408
06:18:24,100 --> 06:18:26,100
acreage the county already

8409
06:18:26,100 --> 06:18:28,401
expertly manages. When Measure

8410
06:18:29,100 --> 06:18:31,100
M is up for renewal, please

8411
06:18:31,100 --> 06:18:32,100
consider dedicating a

8412
06:18:32,100 --> 06:18:34,100
percentage of funds

8413
06:18:34,100 --> 06:18:35,100
for unincorporated towns like

8414
06:18:35,100 --> 06:18:37,100
Forestville, Geyserville and

8415
06:18:37,100 --> 06:18:39,100
Occidental that lack their own

8416
06:18:39,100 --> 06:18:41,100
park departments. Finally,

8417
06:18:41,100 --> 06:18:43,100
Forestville is doing its part.

8418
06:18:43,100 --> 06:18:46,100
We pay Measure M taxes. We host

8419
06:18:46,100 --> 06:18:48,100
Regional Parks west county

8420
06:18:48,100 --> 06:18:51,100
operations at the El Marino

8421
06:18:51,100 --> 06:18:53,100
campus. And there you are,

8422
06:18:53,100 --> 06:18:54,100
just two minutes away

8423
06:18:54,100 --> 06:18:56,100
from our hopeful skate spot.

8424
06:18:56,100 --> 06:18:57,100
So we're asking

8425
06:18:57,100 --> 06:18:59,100
for inclusion. Please welcome

8426
06:18:59,100 --> 06:19:01,100
our neighborhood park

8427
06:19:01,100 --> 06:19:03,100
into your county park family.

8428
06:19:03,100 --> 06:19:06,100
Thank you guys so much. Thank

8429
06:19:06,100 --> 06:19:07,100
you.

8430
06:19:07,100 --> 06:19:09,100
>> Thank you.

8431
06:19:13,100 --> 06:19:16,100
>> Hi. I'm Gretchen Krebs. I'm

8432
06:19:21,100 --> 06:19:22,100
here from Geyserville, and I

8433
06:19:22,100 --> 06:19:24,100
want to thank. We'll adopt you

8434
06:19:24,100 --> 06:19:25,100
into West County. You know,

8435
06:19:25,100 --> 06:19:26,100
I feel

8436
06:19:26,100 --> 06:19:27,100
like you can join us. I want

8437
06:19:27,100 --> 06:19:28,100
to thank you

8438
06:19:28,100 --> 06:19:30,100
for having this workshop today.

8439
06:19:30,100 --> 06:19:31,100
This is really important for

8440
06:19:31,100 --> 06:19:32,100
Geyserville as well to be to

8441
06:19:32,100 --> 06:19:35,100
have this subject talked about.

8442
06:19:35,100 --> 06:19:36,100
But I want to say wow for us.

8443
06:19:36,100 --> 06:19:37,100
So that was really impressive.

8444
06:19:37,100 --> 06:19:39,100
I know that Adrienne's

8445
06:19:39,100 --> 06:19:41,100
listening in over zoom. So that

8446
06:19:41,100 --> 06:19:43,100
is two thirds of our really big

8447
06:19:43,100 --> 06:19:45,100
committee that put together the

8448
06:19:45,100 --> 06:19:48,100
Guysville Park Plaza. When we

8449
06:19:49,100 --> 06:19:51,401
started on this project,

8450
06:19:52,100 --> 06:19:54,100
I often heard, wow, you know,

8451
06:19:54,100 --> 06:19:56,100
in unincorporated areas,

8452
06:19:56,100 --> 06:19:58,100
you have to do things that city

8453
06:19:58,100 --> 06:19:59,100
councils would be doing. And I

8454
06:19:59,100 --> 06:20:01,100
prefer

8455
06:20:01,100 --> 06:20:02,100
to think that we get to. And

8456
06:20:02,100 --> 06:20:06,100
it's been with a lot of help

8457
06:20:06,100 --> 06:20:08,100
from all of you, from Jimmy

8458
06:20:08,100 --> 06:20:09,100
for getting us funds from.

8459
06:20:09,100 --> 06:20:12,601
For our Mac to get started

8460
06:20:13,100 --> 06:20:15,100
from public infrastructure,

8461
06:20:15,100 --> 06:20:17,100
from Sonoma AG and Open

8462
06:20:17,100 --> 06:20:19,100
Space. We couldn't have done

8463
06:20:19,100 --> 06:20:20,100
any of this without your

8464
06:20:20,100 --> 06:20:22,401
financial help and your

8465
06:20:24,100 --> 06:20:26,100
expertise. So thank you very

8466
06:20:26,100 --> 06:20:27,100
much. But now we are at the

8467
06:20:27,100 --> 06:20:28,100
point where we need your help

8468
06:20:28,100 --> 06:20:31,100
with maintenance. So, you know,

8469
06:20:31,100 --> 06:20:33,100
we are volunteers. This isn't

8470
06:20:33,100 --> 06:20:34,100
what we do for a living. We're

8471
06:20:34,100 --> 06:20:36,100
willing to learn,

8472
06:20:36,100 --> 06:20:37,100
we're willing to work

8473
06:20:37,100 --> 06:20:38,100
with you, but we appreciate any

8474
06:20:38,100 --> 06:20:40,100
help that you can give us

8475
06:20:40,100 --> 06:20:43,100
to work with us. This will be

8476
06:20:43,100 --> 06:20:44,100
the only park in Geyserville.

8477
06:20:44,100 --> 06:20:46,100
The nearest park

8478
06:20:46,100 --> 06:20:48,100
to us is seven miles away. We

8479
06:20:48,100 --> 06:20:50,100
do have an elementary school

8480
06:20:50,100 --> 06:20:53,100
that gets used as a park,

8481
06:20:53,100 --> 06:20:54,100
but when school is

8482
06:20:54,100 --> 06:20:56,100
in session,

8483
06:20:56,100 --> 06:20:57,100
that's not an option. So

8484
06:20:57,100 --> 06:20:59,100
for younger families or

8485
06:20:59,100 --> 06:21:00,100
for older adults outside

8486
06:21:00,100 --> 06:21:02,401
of the school age,

8487
06:21:03,100 --> 06:21:05,100
there's nothing. So we really

8488
06:21:05,100 --> 06:21:06,100
appreciate you doing this

8489
06:21:06,100 --> 06:21:08,100
workshop. Thank you.

8490
06:21:08,100 --> 06:21:11,100
>> Thank you. Seeing no more

8491
06:21:13,100 --> 06:21:14,100
public comment,

8492
06:21:14,100 --> 06:21:15,100
I'll bring it back

8493
06:21:15,100 --> 06:21:16,100
to the board

8494
06:21:16,100 --> 06:21:18,401
for questions and comments.

8495
06:21:19,100 --> 06:21:21,100
Supervisor Hopkins.

8496
06:21:22,100 --> 06:21:24,100
>> All right, I had a bunch

8497
06:21:24,100 --> 06:21:25,100
of questions, but I know that

8498
06:21:25,100 --> 06:21:27,100
there have been young members

8499
06:21:27,100 --> 06:21:28,100
of the audience who've been

8500
06:21:28,100 --> 06:21:29,100
super patient. So I'm just

8501
06:21:29,100 --> 06:21:31,100
going to, you know, cut

8502
06:21:31,100 --> 06:21:33,100
to the chase, which is that I

8503
06:21:33,100 --> 06:21:34,100
think either we need

8504
06:21:34,100 --> 06:21:35,100
to dedicate Measure M funding

8505
06:21:35,100 --> 06:21:37,100
to unincorporated communities

8506
06:21:37,100 --> 06:21:38,100
the same way that we dedicate

8507
06:21:38,100 --> 06:21:39,100
it to cities,

8508
06:21:39,100 --> 06:21:40,100
because that will be on the

8509
06:21:40,100 --> 06:21:41,100
ballot later this year and we

8510
06:21:41,100 --> 06:21:43,100
could amend the language, or I

8511
06:21:43,100 --> 06:21:44,100
think that regional parks need

8512
06:21:44,100 --> 06:21:45,100
to step up and take

8513
06:21:45,100 --> 06:21:46,100
responsibility for these

8514
06:21:46,100 --> 06:21:47,100
unincorporated community parks.

8515
06:21:47,100 --> 06:21:48,100
And I'm going

8516
06:21:48,100 --> 06:21:50,100
to give some examples. I mean,

8517
06:21:50,100 --> 06:21:51,100
I looked

8518
06:21:51,100 --> 06:21:52,100
at regional parks list.

8519
06:21:52,100 --> 06:21:53,100
Maddox Andes, Unity Park,

8520
06:21:53,100 --> 06:21:55,100
Shopland Fields, Kenwood Plaza

8521
06:21:55,100 --> 06:21:56,100
Park, Larson Park, Shaw Park,

8522
06:21:56,100 --> 06:21:57,100
Arnold Field, Morin Goodman

8523
06:21:57,100 --> 06:21:59,100
Park, Ernie Smith. Those are

8524
06:21:59,100 --> 06:22:00,100
all small community

8525
06:22:00,100 --> 06:22:02,100
neighborhood parks. And I would

8526
06:22:02,100 --> 06:22:03,100
actually add Ragle and Maxwell

8527
06:22:03,100 --> 06:22:04,100
to those lists because they

8528
06:22:04,100 --> 06:22:05,100
basically have a park

8529
06:22:05,100 --> 06:22:06,100
within a park,

8530
06:22:06,100 --> 06:22:07,100
even though there's sort

8531
06:22:07,100 --> 06:22:08,100
of broader open space. They

8532
06:22:08,100 --> 06:22:10,100
also have sports fields and

8533
06:22:10,100 --> 06:22:11,100
maintain things that are just a

8534
06:22:11,100 --> 06:22:12,100
draw to the entire community.

8535
06:22:12,100 --> 06:22:14,100
Last year, fiscal year 2526,

8536
06:22:14,100 --> 06:22:16,401
Mezuram, 33% of that went

8537
06:22:17,100 --> 06:22:19,100
to a $5.3 million pass through

8538
06:22:19,100 --> 06:22:21,100
to the cities. As I understand

8539
06:22:21,100 --> 06:22:22,100
it, that was based

8540
06:22:22,100 --> 06:22:24,100
on population. That means that

8541
06:22:24,100 --> 06:22:25,100
the city of Sebastopol,

8542
06:22:25,100 --> 06:22:27,100
population 7000ish,

8543
06:22:27,100 --> 06:22:28,100
and the city of Katati,

8544
06:22:28,100 --> 06:22:30,100
population 7000ish,

8545
06:22:30,100 --> 06:22:32,100
get dedicated funding,

8546
06:22:32,100 --> 06:22:33,100
and the whole lower Russian

8547
06:22:33,100 --> 06:22:34,100
river in excess of 12,000

8548
06:22:34,100 --> 06:22:36,100
people doesn't get any. That,

8549
06:22:36,100 --> 06:22:37,100
to me, is not equitable. When

8550
06:22:37,100 --> 06:22:39,100
we go

8551
06:22:39,100 --> 06:22:40,100
to the voters and we say, you

8552
06:22:40,100 --> 06:22:41,100
know,

8553
06:22:41,100 --> 06:22:43,100
regional and neighborhood

8554
06:22:43,100 --> 06:22:44,100
parks, that was in Measure M's

8555
06:22:44,100 --> 06:22:45,100
language,

8556
06:22:45,100 --> 06:22:47,100
and that's what they voted for.

8557
06:22:47,100 --> 06:22:48,100
And when maintenance was

8558
06:22:48,100 --> 06:22:49,100
actually called out in the

8559
06:22:49,100 --> 06:22:51,100
ballot analysis as an eligible

8560
06:22:51,100 --> 06:22:52,100
funding source,

8561
06:22:52,100 --> 06:22:54,100
I feel that we need to fulfill

8562
06:22:54,100 --> 06:22:55,100
this promise and that if we go

8563
06:22:55,100 --> 06:22:56,100
back to the ballot, you know,

8564
06:22:56,100 --> 06:22:57,100
and we ask voters

8565
06:22:57,100 --> 06:22:59,100
to support us,

8566
06:22:59,100 --> 06:23:00,100
and we can't say yes to a

8567
06:23:00,100 --> 06:23:01,100
project that has so much

8568
06:23:01,100 --> 06:23:03,100
community support, we are not

8569
06:23:03,100 --> 06:23:04,100
doing our due diligence so the

8570
06:23:04,100 --> 06:23:06,100
other thing that I wanted

8571
06:23:06,100 --> 06:23:08,100
to share is that one

8572
06:23:08,100 --> 06:23:09,100
of the other reasons, it's

8573
06:23:09,100 --> 06:23:11,100
amazing the community

8574
06:23:11,100 --> 06:23:13,100
organization that Jackie has

8575
06:23:13,100 --> 06:23:15,100
single handedly brought

8576
06:23:15,100 --> 06:23:18,000
together. And there are things

8577
06:23:18,000 --> 06:23:20,100
that she legally cannot do that

8578
06:23:20,100 --> 06:23:21,100
we can do. Like example,

8579
06:23:21,100 --> 06:23:23,100
SB1003, which was basically a

8580
06:23:23,100 --> 06:23:25,401
skate park limiting liability

8581
06:23:26,100 --> 06:23:28,100
bill or as they called it,

8582
06:23:28,100 --> 06:23:30,100
hazardous recreational

8583
06:23:30,100 --> 06:23:32,100
activity. Immunity only applies

8584
06:23:32,100 --> 06:23:33,100
to public agencies. So if she

8585
06:23:33,100 --> 06:23:34,100
were a nonprofit. Right. She

8586
06:23:34,100 --> 06:23:36,100
wouldn't actually be eligible

8587
06:23:36,100 --> 06:23:37,100
for the state law that says if

8588
06:23:37,100 --> 06:23:39,100
someone takes place, you know,

8589
06:23:39,100 --> 06:23:41,100
enjoys skating and hurts

8590
06:23:41,100 --> 06:23:42,100
themselves,

8591
06:23:42,100 --> 06:23:43,100
they can't sue you. Right. And

8592
06:23:43,100 --> 06:23:45,100
so, you know,

8593
06:23:45,100 --> 06:23:46,100
that's a problem. Right.

8594
06:23:46,100 --> 06:23:47,100
That's why you really need a

8595
06:23:47,100 --> 06:23:49,100
public agency partner. And I

8596
06:23:49,100 --> 06:23:50,100
feel like now is the time

8597
06:23:50,100 --> 06:23:51,100
to actually deliver on the

8598
06:23:51,100 --> 06:23:53,100
promises that I really believe.

8599
06:23:53,100 --> 06:23:54,100
When we made,

8600
06:23:54,100 --> 06:23:56,100
when we asked voters

8601
06:23:56,100 --> 06:23:58,100
to support Measure m,

8602
06:23:58,100 --> 06:23:59,100
that's my 2 cents and my

8603
06:23:59,100 --> 06:24:01,100
request. I guess my question is

8604
06:24:01,100 --> 06:24:02,100
sort of what is the timeline

8605
06:24:02,100 --> 06:24:04,100
for Measure M and how can we

8606
06:24:04,100 --> 06:24:05,100
look at amending that language

8607
06:24:05,100 --> 06:24:07,100
or can we get a commitment

8608
06:24:07,100 --> 06:24:08,100
from regional parks to provide

8609
06:24:08,100 --> 06:24:09,100
the support that's needed

8610
06:24:09,100 --> 06:24:11,100
to take these

8611
06:24:11,100 --> 06:24:12,100
across the finish line? And I

8612
06:24:12,100 --> 06:24:13,100
do want to say a shout out

8613
06:24:13,100 --> 06:24:15,100
to ag and open space. I felt

8614
06:24:15,100 --> 06:24:16,100
like

8615
06:24:16,100 --> 06:24:18,100
for years we were hammering on

8616
06:24:18,100 --> 06:24:19,100
how can you fund unincorporated

8617
06:24:19,100 --> 06:24:21,100
communities who don't have the

8618
06:24:21,100 --> 06:24:22,100
capacity. You all stepped up

8619
06:24:22,100 --> 06:24:23,100
with technical assistance.

8620
06:24:23,100 --> 06:24:25,100
Public infrastructure jumped

8621
06:24:25,100 --> 06:24:26,100
into the for fray and, you

8622
06:24:26,100 --> 06:24:27,100
know,

8623
06:24:27,100 --> 06:24:29,100
helped write applications.

8624
06:24:29,100 --> 06:24:30,100
Right. Submit applications

8625
06:24:30,100 --> 06:24:31,100
to ag and open space. And so we

8626
06:24:31,100 --> 06:24:33,100
now have a mechanism

8627
06:24:33,100 --> 06:24:34,100
to get the funding. But the

8628
06:24:34,100 --> 06:24:35,100
project delivery is still the

8629
06:24:35,100 --> 06:24:37,100
challenge. Right. And that

8630
06:24:37,100 --> 06:24:39,100
technical expertise, we have

8631
06:24:39,100 --> 06:24:40,100
amazing community knowledge.

8632
06:24:40,100 --> 06:24:42,100
We also have opportunities

8633
06:24:42,100 --> 06:24:43,100
for grants, as I understand

8634
06:24:43,100 --> 06:24:44,100
that, you know, Jackie and

8635
06:24:44,100 --> 06:24:46,100
everyone has been looking

8636
06:24:46,100 --> 06:24:47,100
at opportunities through

8637
06:24:47,100 --> 06:24:48,100
various foundations that

8638
06:24:48,100 --> 06:24:50,100
support, you know,

8639
06:24:50,100 --> 06:24:51,100
skate parks.

8640
06:24:51,100 --> 06:24:53,100
But we need someone to kind of

8641
06:24:53,100 --> 06:24:54,100
take ownership and move this

8642
06:24:54,100 --> 06:24:55,100
thing forward. So I'm just

8643
06:24:55,100 --> 06:24:57,100
curious about the Measure M

8644
06:24:57,100 --> 06:24:59,100
timeline and also about,

8645
06:24:59,100 --> 06:25:01,100
I feel like for you and James

8646
06:25:01,100 --> 06:25:02,100
and I kicked this around for

8647
06:25:02,100 --> 06:25:03,100
like 10 years. It was like 10

8648
06:25:03,100 --> 06:25:05,100
years ago. And we're like,

8649
06:25:05,100 --> 06:25:06,100
when are you going to take on

8650
06:25:06,100 --> 06:25:07,100
the small unincorporated parks?

8651
06:25:07,100 --> 06:25:08,100
And I think the answer was ten

8652
06:25:08,100 --> 06:25:09,100
years from now. And so here we

8653
06:25:09,100 --> 06:25:11,100
are. And so I'm calling the

8654
06:25:11,100 --> 06:25:12,100
question.

8655
06:25:12,100 --> 06:25:14,100
>> Thank you, Supervisor

8656
06:25:14,100 --> 06:25:15,100
Hopkins. So the timeline for

8657
06:25:15,100 --> 06:25:16,100
Measure M. So just

8658
06:25:16,100 --> 06:25:17,100
to also reflect on 2018, when

8659
06:25:17,100 --> 06:25:19,100
this board, you know, put that

8660
06:25:19,100 --> 06:25:20,100
on the ballot for the voters

8661
06:25:20,100 --> 06:25:22,100
to consider. The story and the

8662
06:25:22,100 --> 06:25:23,100
narrative of that time was we

8663
06:25:23,100 --> 06:25:25,100
had a system that had extensive

8664
06:25:25,100 --> 06:25:27,100
deferred maintenance. We had an

8665
06:25:27,100 --> 06:25:28,100
incredible opportunity because

8666
06:25:28,100 --> 06:25:30,100
of public lands have been

8667
06:25:30,100 --> 06:25:31,100
acquired to expand access and

8668
06:25:31,100 --> 06:25:33,100
to bring those on board

8669
06:25:33,100 --> 06:25:34,100
into the system. And we had

8670
06:25:34,100 --> 06:25:36,100
this new need from the fires

8671
06:25:36,100 --> 06:25:37,100
of 2017 that kicked us

8672
06:25:37,100 --> 06:25:39,100
in the head, like we got

8673
06:25:39,100 --> 06:25:40,100
to take care of this stuff and

8674
06:25:40,100 --> 06:25:41,100
maintain those natural

8675
06:25:41,100 --> 06:25:42,100
resources. I'm pleased

8676
06:25:42,100 --> 06:25:44,100
to say, in my opinion, the

8677
06:25:44,100 --> 06:25:46,100
measure has been very

8678
06:25:46,100 --> 06:25:47,100
successful at delivering

8679
06:25:47,100 --> 06:25:49,100
on its promises

8680
06:25:49,100 --> 06:25:50,100
to the voters. And we are

8681
06:25:50,100 --> 06:25:51,100
looking to bring it forward

8682
06:25:51,100 --> 06:25:52,100
in May for a potential new

8683
06:25:52,100 --> 06:25:53,100
ordinance that would supersede

8684
06:25:53,100 --> 06:25:55,100
Measure M, for the board

8685
06:25:55,100 --> 06:25:56,100
to consider that for this fall

8686
06:25:56,100 --> 06:25:57,100
of 26 election cycle.

8687
06:25:57,100 --> 06:25:58,100
To your question around, does

8688
06:25:58,100 --> 06:26:00,100
the existing ordinance preclude

8689
06:26:00,100 --> 06:26:01,100
regional parks

8690
06:26:01,100 --> 06:26:02,100
from getting involved

8691
06:26:02,100 --> 06:26:04,100
in this? And I think the answer

8692
06:26:04,100 --> 06:26:05,100
is no, it does not. I think

8693
06:26:05,100 --> 06:26:06,100
what's important about today's

8694
06:26:06,100 --> 06:26:07,100
discussion is an opportunity

8695
06:26:07,100 --> 06:26:09,100
for the board

8696
06:26:09,100 --> 06:26:10,100
to have a conversation. This is

8697
06:26:10,100 --> 06:26:11,100
a big question

8698
06:26:11,100 --> 06:26:12,100
with our community,

8699
06:26:12,100 --> 06:26:13,100
these neighborhood parks.

8700
06:26:13,100 --> 06:26:14,100
There are needs all

8701
06:26:14,100 --> 06:26:15,100
over the place. And I would

8702
06:26:15,100 --> 06:26:17,100
just my conversations with our

8703
06:26:17,100 --> 06:26:18,100
county executive office,

8704
06:26:18,100 --> 06:26:19,100
it's been around. What is the

8705
06:26:19,100 --> 06:26:20,100
platform of how we can do this

8706
06:26:20,100 --> 06:26:21,100
within the financial means we

8707
06:26:21,100 --> 06:26:22,100
have available? Measure m is

8708
06:26:22,100 --> 06:26:24,100
about $10 million

8709
06:26:24,100 --> 06:26:25,100
of regional parks budget,

8710
06:26:25,100 --> 06:26:26,100
about 25%. But it is very much

8711
06:26:26,100 --> 06:26:28,100
leveraged right now

8712
06:26:28,100 --> 06:26:29,100
to delivering on hundreds

8713
06:26:29,100 --> 06:26:30,100
of capital projects, many

8714
06:26:30,100 --> 06:26:31,100
of them

8715
06:26:31,100 --> 06:26:32,100
in the fifth district. That's

8716
06:26:32,100 --> 06:26:34,100
going to have impacts. We need

8717
06:26:34,100 --> 06:26:35,100
to look at that and have that

8718
06:26:35,100 --> 06:26:36,100
conversation and make sure that

8719
06:26:36,100 --> 06:26:37,100
we can deliver and actually

8720
06:26:37,100 --> 06:26:38,100
speak truthfully to what the

8721
06:26:38,100 --> 06:26:39,100
county regional parks,

8722
06:26:39,100 --> 06:26:41,100
what the board's going

8723
06:26:41,100 --> 06:26:42,100
to be able to do.

8724
06:26:42,100 --> 06:26:43,100
>> And to be clear, sort

8725
06:26:43,100 --> 06:26:44,100
of my, the way I see it is

8726
06:26:44,100 --> 06:26:45,100
either we need

8727
06:26:45,100 --> 06:26:46,100
to dedicate funding from

8728
06:26:46,100 --> 06:26:48,100
Measure M

8729
06:26:48,100 --> 06:26:49,100
to local parks districts, CSDs

8730
06:26:49,100 --> 06:26:50,100
or community based

8731
06:26:50,100 --> 06:26:52,100
organizations. But really the

8732
06:26:52,100 --> 06:26:53,100
problem is that a community

8733
06:26:53,100 --> 06:26:54,100
based organization, again,

8734
06:26:54,100 --> 06:26:56,100
doesn't have the limitation

8735
06:26:56,100 --> 06:26:57,100
of liability. And honestly,

8736
06:26:57,100 --> 06:26:58,100
it's challenging even

8737
06:26:58,100 --> 06:26:59,100
for public agencies

8738
06:26:59,100 --> 06:27:00,100
to get insurance right now.

8739
06:27:00,100 --> 06:27:02,100
And so it's prohibitively

8740
06:27:02,100 --> 06:27:03,100
expensive if you can even get

8741
06:27:03,100 --> 06:27:04,100
it right as a nonprofit

8742
06:27:04,100 --> 06:27:05,100
to operate something

8743
06:27:05,100 --> 06:27:06,100
like this,

8744
06:27:06,100 --> 06:27:07,100
especially absent the sort

8745
06:27:07,100 --> 06:27:09,100
of state granted limitations

8746
06:27:09,100 --> 06:27:10,100
of liability.

8747
06:27:10,100 --> 06:27:11,100
But I just believe that, you

8748
06:27:11,100 --> 06:27:12,100
know, parks needs

8749
06:27:12,100 --> 06:27:13,100
to either make a commitment

8750
06:27:13,100 --> 06:27:15,100
to taking these on or we need

8751
06:27:15,100 --> 06:27:16,100
to figure out a way

8752
06:27:16,100 --> 06:27:17,100
to fund these areas and

8753
06:27:17,100 --> 06:27:18,100
to provide them

8754
06:27:18,100 --> 06:27:19,100
with ongoing funding. And I

8755
06:27:19,100 --> 06:27:20,100
know they weren't able

8756
06:27:20,100 --> 06:27:22,100
to be here today,

8757
06:27:22,100 --> 06:27:23,100
but I also had a meeting

8758
06:27:23,100 --> 06:27:24,100
with the Grayton Community

8759
06:27:24,100 --> 06:27:25,100
Services District and you know,

8760
06:27:25,100 --> 06:27:27,100
they went and took, did the

8761
06:27:27,100 --> 06:27:28,100
bold thing and created a

8762
06:27:28,100 --> 06:27:30,100
downtown plaza and took it

8763
06:27:30,100 --> 06:27:32,100
on all themselves. And they

8764
06:27:32,100 --> 06:27:33,100
actually need money for

8765
06:27:33,100 --> 06:27:35,100
maintenance and they're finding

8766
06:27:35,100 --> 06:27:36,100
out, you know, it's really,

8767
06:27:36,100 --> 06:27:38,100
you can fundraise for things

8768
06:27:38,100 --> 06:27:39,100
like a capital project

8769
06:27:39,100 --> 06:27:40,100
to say, you know, build

8770
06:27:40,100 --> 06:27:42,100
something,

8771
06:27:42,100 --> 06:27:43,100
but it's really hard

8772
06:27:43,100 --> 06:27:45,100
to fundraise just

8773
06:27:45,100 --> 06:27:46,100
to mow the grass every year.

8774
06:27:46,100 --> 06:27:48,100
And we do have community

8775
06:27:48,100 --> 06:27:49,100
volunteers, especially in

8776
06:27:49,100 --> 06:27:51,100
Forestville, Forestville Youth

8777
06:27:51,100 --> 06:27:53,100
park, who just have been doing

8778
06:27:53,100 --> 06:27:54,100
these things for decades. And

8779
06:27:54,100 --> 06:27:56,100
yet, right. One person retires

8780
06:27:56,100 --> 06:27:57,100
or can't do it anymore, and

8781
06:27:57,100 --> 06:27:59,100
suddenly you have a budget gap

8782
06:27:59,100 --> 06:28:00,100
that you can't fill and no

8783
06:28:00,100 --> 06:28:01,100
revenue source to do it. So

8784
06:28:01,100 --> 06:28:02,100
I'll just sort of throw it

8785
06:28:02,100 --> 06:28:03,100
down and say that I would

8786
06:28:03,100 --> 06:28:04,100
really like

8787
06:28:04,100 --> 06:28:06,100
to either see a revision to

8788
06:28:06,100 --> 06:28:07,100
Measure M or a willingness

8789
06:28:07,100 --> 06:28:08,100
to take on things like this

8790
06:28:08,100 --> 06:28:09,100
Gate park, because I see all of

8791
06:28:09,100 --> 06:28:11,100
these precedents and other

8792
06:28:11,100 --> 06:28:12,100
parts of the county's county

8793
06:28:12,100 --> 06:28:13,100
where we have actually taken

8794
06:28:13,100 --> 06:28:14,100
on small neighborhood parks.

8795
06:28:14,100 --> 06:28:15,100
And yet I don't understand why.

8796
06:28:15,100 --> 06:28:17,100
The answer is yes there,

8797
06:28:17,100 --> 06:28:18,100
and the answer has been no in

8798
06:28:18,100 --> 06:28:19,100
Forestville. So I just want to.

8799
06:28:19,100 --> 06:28:21,100
I would ask for the support

8800
06:28:21,100 --> 06:28:22,100
of my colleagues for one

8801
06:28:22,100 --> 06:28:24,100
of those alternatives.

8802
06:28:25,100 --> 06:28:27,100
>> Vice Chair Coursey

8803
06:28:29,100 --> 06:28:31,401
>> Thanks. I just want

8804
06:28:32,100 --> 06:28:35,100
to say if. If these kind

8805
06:28:35,100 --> 06:28:37,100
of decisions were just based

8806
06:28:37,100 --> 06:28:40,100
on the tenaciousness over time

8807
06:28:40,100 --> 06:28:42,100
of a community,

8808
06:28:42,100 --> 06:28:44,100
the sheer numbers that you

8809
06:28:44,100 --> 06:28:46,401
bring to public comment,

8810
06:28:47,100 --> 06:28:49,100
and the cuteness per capita

8811
06:28:49,100 --> 06:28:51,100
of those numbers,

8812
06:28:51,100 --> 06:28:54,100
these would be easy decisions.

8813
06:28:54,100 --> 06:28:56,100
But Forestville Skate park is

8814
06:28:56,100 --> 06:28:59,100
not the only one. Almost we're

8815
06:28:59,100 --> 06:29:01,100
the only one here. How easy

8816
06:29:01,100 --> 06:29:03,100
would that be? Unfortunately,

8817
06:29:03,100 --> 06:29:05,100
we've got a big county with big

8818
06:29:05,100 --> 06:29:08,100
needs. I have a couple

8819
06:29:08,100 --> 06:29:11,100
questions for you Bert and

8820
06:29:13,100 --> 06:29:14,100
company workshoppers, as you

8821
06:29:14,100 --> 06:29:16,401
were dubbed earlier today.

8822
06:29:17,100 --> 06:29:19,100
First of all, Bert, did

8823
06:29:19,100 --> 06:29:21,401
Measure M anticipate new

8824
06:29:22,100 --> 06:29:24,100
neighborhood parks?

8825
06:29:26,100 --> 06:29:27,100
>> No.

8826
06:29:27,100 --> 06:29:28,100
>> As I described earlier,

8827
06:29:28,100 --> 06:29:30,100
Measure M really was looking

8828
06:29:30,100 --> 06:29:31,100
primarily at the existing

8829
06:29:31,100 --> 06:29:32,100
system and these larger tracts

8830
06:29:32,100 --> 06:29:33,100
of land that have now been

8831
06:29:33,100 --> 06:29:34,100
transferred

8832
06:29:34,100 --> 06:29:35,100
from AG and open space

8833
06:29:35,100 --> 06:29:36,100
ownership

8834
06:29:36,100 --> 06:29:37,100
to county ownership. The

8835
06:29:37,100 --> 06:29:39,100
measure language does talk

8836
06:29:39,100 --> 06:29:40,100
about regional and neighborhood

8837
06:29:40,100 --> 06:29:41,100
parks. And that language really

8838
06:29:41,100 --> 06:29:42,100
is crafted, was intended

8839
06:29:42,100 --> 06:29:43,100
around the city portion

8840
06:29:43,100 --> 06:29:44,100
of the funding going in where

8841
06:29:44,100 --> 06:29:45,100
the city's predominant business

8842
06:29:45,100 --> 06:29:47,100
is more of the neighborhood

8843
06:29:47,100 --> 06:29:48,100
park type facilities.

8844
06:29:48,100 --> 06:29:49,100
>> When did neighborhood parks

8845
06:29:49,100 --> 06:29:51,401
become a county thing?

8846
06:29:55,100 --> 06:29:58,100
>> As we tried to kind

8847
06:29:59,100 --> 06:30:01,100
of articulate the presentation,

8848
06:30:01,100 --> 06:30:02,100
the neighborhood parks we have

8849
06:30:02,100 --> 06:30:03,100
in these unincorporated areas

8850
06:30:03,100 --> 06:30:05,401
have evolved. As Supervisor

8851
06:30:06,100 --> 06:30:07,100
points out, there's a number

8852
06:30:07,100 --> 06:30:09,100
of them in the county system.

8853
06:30:09,100 --> 06:30:10,100
And those stories go back

8854
06:30:10,100 --> 06:30:12,100
over the 50, what, nine years

8855
06:30:12,100 --> 06:30:15,100
the regional parks have been

8856
06:30:15,100 --> 06:30:17,100
in existence. But it really,

8857
06:30:17,100 --> 06:30:19,100
as far as the mission of

8858
06:30:19,100 --> 06:30:20,100
regional park parks and the

8859
06:30:20,100 --> 06:30:22,100
last several decades

8860
06:30:22,100 --> 06:30:23,100
of work product, it has been

8861
06:30:23,100 --> 06:30:24,100
something where we're not,

8862
06:30:24,100 --> 06:30:25,100
it's not incorporated

8863
06:30:25,100 --> 06:30:26,100
into our cip,

8864
06:30:26,100 --> 06:30:28,100
our capital improvement

8865
06:30:28,100 --> 06:30:29,100
projects planning,

8866
06:30:29,100 --> 06:30:31,100
but it's not currently factored

8867
06:30:31,100 --> 06:30:32,100
into our park mitigation fees

8868
06:30:32,100 --> 06:30:34,100
for developments where these

8869
06:30:34,100 --> 06:30:35,100
things are based

8870
06:30:35,100 --> 06:30:37,100
on new populations coming in.

8871
06:30:37,100 --> 06:30:39,100
And we've done our best

8872
06:30:39,100 --> 06:30:41,100
to support within the community

8873
06:30:41,100 --> 06:30:42,100
that has interest in these,

8874
06:30:42,100 --> 06:30:44,100
to provide some Technical

8875
06:30:44,100 --> 06:30:46,100
support and guidance,

8876
06:30:47,100 --> 06:30:48,100
but they have not, you know,

8877
06:30:48,100 --> 06:30:50,100
squarely landed on a process

8878
06:30:50,100 --> 06:30:51,100
county wide where regional

8879
06:30:51,100 --> 06:30:53,100
parks has been directed

8880
06:30:53,100 --> 06:30:55,100
to go and figure this out.

8881
06:30:55,100 --> 06:30:56,100
And, and it's an evolving

8882
06:30:56,100 --> 06:30:58,100
landscape and the community is

8883
06:30:58,100 --> 06:30:59,100
changing and something. I think

8884
06:30:59,100 --> 06:31:00,100
it's great

8885
06:31:00,100 --> 06:31:01,100
for having a discussion

8886
06:31:01,100 --> 06:31:02,100
around how we grapple

8887
06:31:02,100 --> 06:31:03,100
with this.

8888
06:31:03,100 --> 06:31:05,100
>> You mentioned great needs

8889
06:31:05,100 --> 06:31:07,100
for. For these type of parks

8890
06:31:07,100 --> 06:31:08,100
around the unincorporated areas

8891
06:31:08,100 --> 06:31:10,100
of the county. Do you have any

8892
06:31:10,100 --> 06:31:12,100
idea

8893
06:31:12,100 --> 06:31:13,100
of what the numbers would look

8894
06:31:13,100 --> 06:31:15,401
like and how many

8895
06:31:17,100 --> 06:31:19,100
of those could we afford

8896
06:31:19,100 --> 06:31:21,100
to operate and maintain

8897
06:31:21,100 --> 06:31:24,100
over how many years? And I'm

8898
06:31:24,100 --> 06:31:25,100
guessing you don't know what

8899
06:31:25,100 --> 06:31:27,100
the answer is

8900
06:31:27,100 --> 06:31:28,100
to that question.

8901
06:31:28,100 --> 06:31:29,100
>> So I think the conversation

8902
06:31:29,100 --> 06:31:31,100
has gone the furthest several

8903
06:31:31,100 --> 06:31:32,100
years back in the

8904
06:31:32,100 --> 06:31:34,100
unincorporated governance ad

8905
06:31:34,100 --> 06:31:36,100
hoc where really to look

8906
06:31:36,100 --> 06:31:37,100
at that, that the request

8907
06:31:37,100 --> 06:31:39,100
for that ad hoc back

8908
06:31:39,100 --> 06:31:40,100
to the board during a budget

8909
06:31:40,100 --> 06:31:41,100
deliberation was some dollars

8910
06:31:41,100 --> 06:31:42,100
for our county executive office

8911
06:31:42,100 --> 06:31:44,100
to hire the consultants as

8912
06:31:44,100 --> 06:31:45,100
similar to how a city

8913
06:31:45,100 --> 06:31:46,100
incorporated jurisdiction would

8914
06:31:46,100 --> 06:31:48,100
look at that

8915
06:31:48,100 --> 06:31:49,100
to have a comprehensive look

8916
06:31:49,100 --> 06:31:50,100
at the county. And that would

8917
06:31:50,100 --> 06:31:52,100
tie into the different types

8918
06:31:52,100 --> 06:31:53,100
of costs, facilities,

8919
06:31:53,100 --> 06:31:54,100
funding structures and things

8920
06:31:54,100 --> 06:31:55,100
for the board

8921
06:31:55,100 --> 06:31:57,100
to consider.

8922
06:31:58,100 --> 06:32:00,100
>> Seems like I remember that

8923
06:32:00,100 --> 06:32:01,100
the unincorporated governance

8924
06:32:01,100 --> 06:32:02,100
ad hoc also,

8925
06:32:02,100 --> 06:32:04,401
and maybe these existed

8926
06:32:05,100 --> 06:32:07,100
before that. I was fairly new

8927
06:32:07,100 --> 06:32:09,100
to the board, but talked about

8928
06:32:09,100 --> 06:32:11,100
district formation and you

8929
06:32:11,100 --> 06:32:14,100
mentioned several park and rec

8930
06:32:15,100 --> 06:32:18,100
districts that exist. I don't

8931
06:32:18,100 --> 06:32:20,100
think any

8932
06:32:20,100 --> 06:32:22,100
of those have been created

8933
06:32:22,100 --> 06:32:24,100
in the last, I don't know, 50

8934
06:32:24,100 --> 06:32:27,100
years. Most of them have been

8935
06:32:27,100 --> 06:32:30,100
in existence for a long time.

8936
06:32:30,100 --> 06:32:31,100
But is. Is a district, whether

8937
06:32:31,100 --> 06:32:33,100
one district or several small

8938
06:32:33,100 --> 06:32:35,100
districts, part

8939
06:32:36,100 --> 06:32:38,100
of a solution here,

8940
06:32:38,100 --> 06:32:41,100
of being able to take

8941
06:32:41,100 --> 06:32:43,100
on the administrative task,

8942
06:32:43,100 --> 06:32:45,100
the administrative expertise,

8943
06:32:46,100 --> 06:32:48,100
the liability issues that you

8944
06:32:48,100 --> 06:32:50,100
mentioned, Supervisor

8945
06:32:52,100 --> 06:32:54,401
Hopkins, is that part

8946
06:32:55,100 --> 06:32:57,100
of a solution?

8947
06:33:00,100 --> 06:33:02,100
>> One of the challenges is

8948
06:33:02,100 --> 06:33:03,100
actually that our local parks

8949
06:33:03,100 --> 06:33:04,100
and rec districts in the

8950
06:33:04,100 --> 06:33:05,100
Lower Russian river are

8951
06:33:05,100 --> 06:33:06,100
currently paying hundreds

8952
06:33:06,100 --> 06:33:08,100
of thousands of dollars

8953
06:33:08,100 --> 06:33:09,100
to the county as part

8954
06:33:09,100 --> 06:33:12,100
of redevelopment. So they have

8955
06:33:12,100 --> 06:33:14,100
an absolute bare bones duct

8956
06:33:14,100 --> 06:33:16,100
tape budget until redevelopment

8957
06:33:16,100 --> 06:33:17,100
is paid down. And because we

8958
06:33:17,100 --> 06:33:18,100
consolidated all

8959
06:33:18,100 --> 06:33:20,100
of the redevelopment agencies

8960
06:33:20,100 --> 06:33:21,100
in the county into one,

8961
06:33:21,100 --> 06:33:24,100
they are paying until the last

8962
06:33:24,100 --> 06:33:25,100
project's debt is paid off.

8963
06:33:25,100 --> 06:33:26,100
Which means that the Russian

8964
06:33:26,100 --> 06:33:28,100
river park and Rec and

8965
06:33:28,100 --> 06:33:30,100
Monorio Rec and Park are both

8966
06:33:30,100 --> 06:33:32,100
paying into projects outside of

8967
06:33:32,100 --> 06:33:33,100
their jurisdictional boundary

8968
06:33:33,100 --> 06:33:35,100
because of how the debt

8969
06:33:35,100 --> 06:33:36,100
financing was handled. And so

8970
06:33:36,100 --> 06:33:37,100
it's many, many years

8971
06:33:37,100 --> 06:33:39,100
until they will have any kind

8972
06:33:39,100 --> 06:33:40,100
of capacity. And as a result

8973
06:33:40,100 --> 06:33:41,100
they've really struggled even

8974
06:33:41,100 --> 06:33:42,100
to keep staff and

8975
06:33:42,100 --> 06:33:45,100
to perform sort of basic

8976
06:33:45,100 --> 06:33:46,100
maintenance. I would still

8977
06:33:46,100 --> 06:33:48,100
argue that's partly why I would

8978
06:33:48,100 --> 06:33:49,100
argue that, you know, sort

8979
06:33:49,100 --> 06:33:51,100
of a set aside. I also wanted

8980
06:33:51,100 --> 06:33:52,100
to respond to. I think that the

8981
06:33:52,100 --> 06:33:53,100
sort of conversation

8982
06:33:53,100 --> 06:33:54,100
about the funding being for

8983
06:33:54,100 --> 06:33:56,100
cities was insider baseball,

8984
06:33:56,100 --> 06:33:57,100
where it was in negotiations

8985
06:33:57,100 --> 06:33:58,100
with city managers and city

8986
06:33:58,100 --> 06:34:00,100
councils. I mean,

8987
06:34:00,100 --> 06:34:01,100
if you actually read the ballot

8988
06:34:01,100 --> 06:34:02,100
question, it just says

8989
06:34:02,100 --> 06:34:03,100
to improve and protect Sonoma

8990
06:34:03,100 --> 06:34:04,100
County's regional and

8991
06:34:04,100 --> 06:34:05,100
neighborhood parks. That's the

8992
06:34:05,100 --> 06:34:07,100
first clause I'm saying

8993
06:34:07,100 --> 06:34:08,100
about whether you're

8994
06:34:08,100 --> 06:34:09,100
in a city or outside

8995
06:34:09,100 --> 06:34:10,100
of a city. So I think someone

8996
06:34:10,100 --> 06:34:11,100
from, you know, Forestville

8997
06:34:11,100 --> 06:34:12,100
voting for that would sort of

8998
06:34:12,100 --> 06:34:14,100
assume that it could

8999
06:34:14,100 --> 06:34:15,100
potentially support, you know,

9000
06:34:15,100 --> 06:34:16,100
protecting and improving a

9001
06:34:16,100 --> 06:34:17,100
neighborhood park. And if we

9002
06:34:17,100 --> 06:34:18,100
have the opportunity

9003
06:34:18,100 --> 06:34:19,100
to build it

9004
06:34:19,100 --> 06:34:21,100
with AG and open space funds,

9005
06:34:21,100 --> 06:34:22,100
which I believe we will, the

9006
06:34:22,100 --> 06:34:23,100
question then just becomes how

9007
06:34:23,100 --> 06:34:24,100
do we, you know, maintain it?

9008
06:34:24,100 --> 06:34:25,100
But that's. That's the real

9009
06:34:25,100 --> 06:34:26,100
challenge with our parks

9010
06:34:26,100 --> 06:34:27,100
districts is they are basically

9011
06:34:27,100 --> 06:34:29,100
broke from redevelopment.

9012
06:34:29,100 --> 06:34:30,100
>> And I. I get that. I was

9013
06:34:30,100 --> 06:34:32,100
wondering

9014
06:34:32,100 --> 06:34:34,401
about new district formation.

9015
06:34:35,100 --> 06:34:37,100
Just an idea. The other thing

9016
06:34:37,100 --> 06:34:39,100
Supervisor Hopkins was asking

9017
06:34:39,100 --> 06:34:42,100
about, you know, some kind

9018
06:34:42,100 --> 06:34:43,100
of a set aside, some kind

9019
06:34:43,100 --> 06:34:45,401
of a solution here

9020
06:34:46,100 --> 06:34:48,100
in the next measure, M,

9021
06:34:48,100 --> 06:34:51,100
whatever letter that turns out

9022
06:34:53,100 --> 06:34:54,100
to be. I don't have an

9023
06:34:54,100 --> 06:34:56,100
objection to that. I just

9024
06:34:56,100 --> 06:34:58,100
wonder what that would look

9025
06:34:58,100 --> 06:34:59,100
like. Have you given that any

9026
06:34:59,100 --> 06:35:01,100
thought? It's probably not the

9027
06:35:01,100 --> 06:35:03,100
first time you've heard

9028
06:35:03,100 --> 06:35:05,100
about it today.

9029
06:35:06,100 --> 06:35:07,100
>> Yeah, I've not given any

9030
06:35:07,100 --> 06:35:10,100
thought other than I think the

9031
06:35:10,100 --> 06:35:11,100
conversations thus far with our

9032
06:35:11,100 --> 06:35:12,100
city partners have been very

9033
06:35:12,100 --> 06:35:13,100
positive in the sense that the

9034
06:35:13,100 --> 06:35:14,100
current structure of the

9035
06:35:14,100 --> 06:35:15,100
measure is very adequate,

9036
06:35:15,100 --> 06:35:16,100
and I would discourage the

9037
06:35:16,100 --> 06:35:18,100
board from doing anything

9038
06:35:18,100 --> 06:35:20,100
to disrupt the current 1/3,

9039
06:35:20,100 --> 06:35:21,100
2/3 funding split

9040
06:35:21,100 --> 06:35:23,100
of the dollars. As I said,

9041
06:35:23,100 --> 06:35:24,100
in the remaining two thirds,

9042
06:35:24,100 --> 06:35:25,100
there's not really a

9043
06:35:25,100 --> 06:35:27,100
prohibition, per se,

9044
06:35:27,100 --> 06:35:28,100
against spending

9045
06:35:28,100 --> 06:35:29,100
on any regional parks facility.

9046
06:35:29,100 --> 06:35:30,100
As long as it's a park. It

9047
06:35:30,100 --> 06:35:31,100
would be an eligible expense

9048
06:35:31,100 --> 06:35:33,100
under the measurement direct

9049
06:35:33,100 --> 06:35:35,100
to source dollars based

9050
06:35:35,100 --> 06:35:36,100
on population. We have done no

9051
06:35:36,100 --> 06:35:38,100
analysis on that.

9052
06:35:39,100 --> 06:35:41,100
>> And I also just wonder

9053
06:35:41,100 --> 06:35:43,100
about, you know, even if we did

9054
06:35:43,100 --> 06:35:44,100
have a dedicated portion

9055
06:35:44,100 --> 06:35:46,401
of a sales tax

9056
06:35:47,100 --> 06:35:48,100
for neighborhood parks,

9057
06:35:48,100 --> 06:35:50,100
for maintenance, whatever,

9058
06:35:50,100 --> 06:35:51,100
it's not going to be enough

9059
06:35:51,100 --> 06:35:52,100
to deal with all the needs

9060
06:35:52,100 --> 06:35:54,100
out there. I understand. And I

9061
06:35:54,100 --> 06:35:56,401
remember that Forestville has

9062
06:35:57,100 --> 06:35:59,100
been here many,

9063
06:36:01,100 --> 06:36:03,100
many times.

9064
06:36:03,100 --> 06:36:05,100
>> Bravo, kids.

9065
06:36:05,100 --> 06:36:07,100
>> Thank you, guys.

9066
06:36:08,100 --> 06:36:09,100
>> Sorry. Bravo. They've been

9067
06:36:09,100 --> 06:36:11,100
here many times. They've been

9068
06:36:11,100 --> 06:36:12,100
here, you know,

9069
06:36:12,100 --> 06:36:14,100
for many years.

9070
06:36:14,100 --> 06:36:16,100
But how do you equitably,

9071
06:36:16,100 --> 06:36:18,100
really equitably decide who has

9072
06:36:18,100 --> 06:36:20,100
access to that money now and

9073
06:36:20,100 --> 06:36:23,100
in the future? How is that.

9074
06:36:23,100 --> 06:36:26,100
How's that decided? It's a

9075
06:36:28,100 --> 06:36:29,100
rhetorical question. That's all

9076
06:36:29,100 --> 06:36:31,100
I got right now.

9077
06:36:31,100 --> 06:36:33,100
>> Supervisor Gore.

9078
06:36:33,100 --> 06:36:35,100
>> I'm gonna throw a couple

9079
06:36:35,100 --> 06:36:38,100
things down and then I'm gonna

9080
06:36:38,100 --> 06:36:40,100
leave because my daughter is

9081
06:36:40,100 --> 06:36:42,100
frustrated about my tardiness

9082
06:36:42,100 --> 06:36:43,100
to get her

9083
06:36:43,100 --> 06:36:44,100
to volleyball practice. So I

9084
06:36:44,100 --> 06:36:46,100
apologize. So a couple things

9085
06:36:46,100 --> 06:36:48,100
for me. You gotta pay

9086
06:36:48,100 --> 06:36:49,100
to play. We have

9087
06:36:49,100 --> 06:36:50,100
to put money towards this,

9088
06:36:50,100 --> 06:36:51,100
whatever it is. I think I

9089
06:36:51,100 --> 06:36:52,100
appreciate the conversation.

9090
06:36:52,100 --> 06:36:55,100
Cause on one side, yeah,

9091
06:36:55,100 --> 06:36:56,100
absolutely. What's the budget?

9092
06:36:56,100 --> 06:36:57,100
I think what we need

9093
06:36:57,100 --> 06:36:58,100
to do is price

9094
06:36:58,100 --> 06:37:00,100
out what it would be

9095
06:37:00,100 --> 06:37:01,100
to do maintenance on some

9096
06:37:01,100 --> 06:37:02,100
of these projects. That's a

9097
06:37:02,100 --> 06:37:04,100
completely different question

9098
06:37:04,100 --> 06:37:07,100
than the infrastructure and the

9099
06:37:07,100 --> 06:37:09,100
investment costs ag and open

9100
06:37:09,100 --> 06:37:10,100
space coming

9101
06:37:10,100 --> 06:37:11,100
in and doing that. You know,

9102
06:37:11,100 --> 06:37:12,100
even right now,

9103
06:37:12,100 --> 06:37:13,100
I put quite a bit of the

9104
06:37:13,100 --> 06:37:14,100
district infrastructure funds

9105
06:37:14,100 --> 06:37:16,100
one time funds into Mark west

9106
06:37:16,100 --> 06:37:17,100
park. We're scrapping together

9107
06:37:17,100 --> 06:37:19,100
for the golf course park,

9108
06:37:19,100 --> 06:37:20,100
which is up in Mark West

9109
06:37:20,100 --> 06:37:22,100
Geyserville. We're looking

9110
06:37:22,100 --> 06:37:23,100
at all kinds of things

9111
06:37:23,100 --> 06:37:25,100
in partnership. So, you know,

9112
06:37:25,100 --> 06:37:26,100
getting these up to that area.

9113
06:37:26,100 --> 06:37:27,100
I would just be interested,

9114
06:37:27,100 --> 06:37:29,100
I don't know, because I'd

9115
06:37:29,100 --> 06:37:30,100
rather give you the budget than

9116
06:37:30,100 --> 06:37:32,100
come back

9117
06:37:32,100 --> 06:37:34,100
to the board and get $80,000 to

9118
06:37:34,100 --> 06:37:35,100
create a community services

9119
06:37:35,100 --> 06:37:38,100
district to tax Mark west

9120
06:37:38,100 --> 06:37:39,100
people who already pay property

9121
06:37:39,100 --> 06:37:41,100
taxes and pay the sales tax.

9122
06:37:41,100 --> 06:37:42,100
So if to me there's a part

9123
06:37:42,100 --> 06:37:44,100
of this that like, I just don't

9124
06:37:44,100 --> 06:37:46,100
know. I've always been of the

9125
06:37:46,100 --> 06:37:49,100
proclivity that if we needed

9126
06:37:49,100 --> 06:37:51,100
to create the districts, we

9127
06:37:51,100 --> 06:37:53,100
create the districts and we do

9128
06:37:53,100 --> 06:37:54,100
it.

9129
06:37:54,100 --> 06:37:55,100
But there is this point about,

9130
06:37:55,100 --> 06:37:57,100
okay, now to be able

9131
06:37:57,100 --> 06:37:58,100
to create the districts,

9132
06:37:58,100 --> 06:37:59,100
we're spending a bunch

9133
06:37:59,100 --> 06:38:00,100
of money to create the

9134
06:38:00,100 --> 06:38:01,100
districts and then we still

9135
06:38:01,100 --> 06:38:03,100
have these liability issues.

9136
06:38:03,100 --> 06:38:04,100
And then further than that,

9137
06:38:04,100 --> 06:38:05,100
we also are sitting here

9138
06:38:05,100 --> 06:38:06,100
in a position where we have

9139
06:38:06,100 --> 06:38:07,100
to ask them for more revenue.

9140
06:38:07,100 --> 06:38:09,100
And even if they want

9141
06:38:09,100 --> 06:38:10,100
to pay it, they're asking,

9142
06:38:10,100 --> 06:38:12,100
why would you ask me to do a

9143
06:38:12,100 --> 06:38:13,100
supplemental property tax when

9144
06:38:13,100 --> 06:38:14,100
as an unincorporated

9145
06:38:14,100 --> 06:38:15,100
residential and all my property

9146
06:38:15,100 --> 06:38:17,100
taxes already taken

9147
06:38:17,100 --> 06:38:18,100
into the county? And you don't

9148
06:38:18,100 --> 06:38:20,100
give that back

9149
06:38:20,100 --> 06:38:21,100
for a local parks district,

9150
06:38:21,100 --> 06:38:23,100
even though we kind of do

9151
06:38:23,100 --> 06:38:24,100
to you. So for me, I'm kind

9152
06:38:24,100 --> 06:38:25,100
of interested

9153
06:38:25,100 --> 06:38:27,100
in the real costs of that. I am

9154
06:38:27,100 --> 06:38:28,100
here to. I would never move

9155
06:38:28,100 --> 06:38:30,100
before a colleague

9156
06:38:30,100 --> 06:38:32,100
in her district. But yes, yes,

9157
06:38:32,100 --> 06:38:34,100
yes. Skate park,

9158
06:38:34,100 --> 06:38:37,100
I can't ride because I will

9159
06:38:37,100 --> 06:38:40,100
die. But like, but, but we,

9160
06:38:40,100 --> 06:38:42,100
but,

9161
06:38:42,100 --> 06:38:44,100
but I would just say we have,

9162
06:38:44,100 --> 06:38:46,100
we have created a solution

9163
06:38:46,100 --> 06:38:48,100
space, albeit imperfect

9164
06:38:48,100 --> 06:38:50,100
for the, the capital investment

9165
06:38:50,100 --> 06:38:52,100
and then some of it

9166
06:38:52,100 --> 06:38:54,100
like being land that's. That's

9167
06:38:54,100 --> 06:38:56,100
sitting in abeyance as a part

9168
06:38:56,100 --> 06:38:58,100
of our county system and

9169
06:38:58,100 --> 06:39:00,100
Sonoma public infrastructure. I

9170
06:39:00,100 --> 06:39:01,100
mean the smart thing would be

9171
06:39:01,100 --> 06:39:02,100
to do is like we got

9172
06:39:02,100 --> 06:39:03,100
to come back

9173
06:39:03,100 --> 06:39:04,100
to the board or come

9174
06:39:04,100 --> 06:39:05,100
through these mechanisms

9175
06:39:05,100 --> 06:39:06,100
to do the up, you know, you

9176
06:39:06,100 --> 06:39:07,100
know, the initial public access

9177
06:39:07,100 --> 06:39:09,100
land purchases. Then we figure

9178
06:39:09,100 --> 06:39:10,100
out what the maintenance is.

9179
06:39:10,100 --> 06:39:11,100
And even if we need

9180
06:39:11,100 --> 06:39:13,100
to say like, okay, I mean,

9181
06:39:13,100 --> 06:39:14,100
do we divert some

9182
06:39:14,100 --> 06:39:15,100
of the money that accrues into

9183
06:39:15,100 --> 06:39:16,100
a district formation account

9184
06:39:16,100 --> 06:39:18,100
currently and have that go

9185
06:39:18,100 --> 06:39:19,100
towards maintenance instead?

9186
06:39:19,100 --> 06:39:21,100
Because I'd rather give you a

9187
06:39:21,100 --> 06:39:22,100
check for $70,000 to take care

9188
06:39:22,100 --> 06:39:24,100
of those parks per year.

9189
06:39:24,100 --> 06:39:26,100
Unless you tell me it's

9190
06:39:26,100 --> 06:39:28,100
actually 300,000. Right. I just

9191
06:39:28,100 --> 06:39:29,100
don't know what that really

9192
06:39:29,100 --> 06:39:33,100
means. So to me, I was going

9193
06:39:33,100 --> 06:39:35,100
to ask here today to come back

9194
06:39:35,100 --> 06:39:36,100
with a lot of conversations

9195
06:39:36,100 --> 06:39:38,100
about CSA 40 or 41, whichever

9196
06:39:38,100 --> 06:39:39,100
one is. Which one is it?

9197
06:39:39,100 --> 06:39:41,100
Yeah, but one of the fire. The

9198
06:39:41,100 --> 06:39:43,100
other 1 is the 41 is the 1

9199
06:39:43,100 --> 06:39:45,100
where we basically brought all

9200
06:39:45,100 --> 06:39:47,100
these districts in.

9201
06:39:47,100 --> 06:39:49,100
Like we can as a vote

9202
06:39:49,100 --> 06:39:51,100
of this board approve. And then

9203
06:39:51,100 --> 06:39:53,100
we would be the board

9204
06:39:53,100 --> 06:39:55,100
of the district. That's the

9205
06:39:55,100 --> 06:39:57,100
problem is lafco. If they go

9206
06:39:57,100 --> 06:39:58,100
through their own process,

9207
06:39:58,100 --> 06:40:00,100
you have to have all these

9208
06:40:00,100 --> 06:40:01,100
community groups and all these

9209
06:40:01,100 --> 06:40:03,100
things. You don't have

9210
06:40:03,100 --> 06:40:04,100
capacity.

9211
06:40:04,100 --> 06:40:06,100
But then do we really want to

9212
06:40:06,100 --> 06:40:07,100
be once again the board and

9213
06:40:07,100 --> 06:40:09,100
having CSA 41 five more

9214
06:40:09,100 --> 06:40:10,100
districts or is this a budget

9215
06:40:10,100 --> 06:40:13,601
issue? So for me, you know,

9216
06:40:14,100 --> 06:40:15,100
I'm open to the conversation

9217
06:40:15,100 --> 06:40:16,100
about district formation

9218
06:40:16,100 --> 06:40:18,100
dollars rather than spending a

9219
06:40:18,100 --> 06:40:19,100
bunch of money on consultants

9220
06:40:19,100 --> 06:40:21,100
to try and pass a major to

9221
06:40:21,100 --> 06:40:22,100
increase people's property

9222
06:40:22,100 --> 06:40:24,100
taxes. You know,

9223
06:40:24,100 --> 06:40:25,100
my interest is to solve for

9224
06:40:25,100 --> 06:40:26,100
Geyserville and two places in

9225
06:40:26,100 --> 06:40:28,100
Mark West. And quite honestly,

9226
06:40:28,100 --> 06:40:29,100
we don't have much. We don't

9227
06:40:29,100 --> 06:40:31,100
have anything else

9228
06:40:31,100 --> 06:40:32,100
in my mind that is a desert

9229
06:40:32,100 --> 06:40:34,100
out there that could be a part

9230
06:40:34,100 --> 06:40:37,100
of a policy. Like I'd love to

9231
06:40:37,100 --> 06:40:38,100
know how much it would be if

9232
06:40:38,100 --> 06:40:39,100
you looked at those and said

9233
06:40:39,100 --> 06:40:42,100
this is what it would cost me.

9234
06:40:42,100 --> 06:40:43,100
And even if we decide that it's

9235
06:40:43,100 --> 06:40:45,100
not parks to do it,

9236
06:40:45,100 --> 06:40:46,100
then I could fight

9237
06:40:46,100 --> 06:40:48,100
for some other way

9238
06:40:48,100 --> 06:40:49,100
to do it.

9239
06:40:49,100 --> 06:40:51,100
>> Okay, Misty and then

9240
06:40:51,100 --> 06:40:52,100
Supervisor Rabbitt

9241
06:40:52,100 --> 06:40:54,100
>> I just have a quick

9242
06:40:54,100 --> 06:40:55,100
clarifying question

9243
06:40:55,100 --> 06:40:56,100
on estimating cost costs. And

9244
06:40:56,100 --> 06:40:57,100
Bert and I haven't chatted

9245
06:40:57,100 --> 06:40:58,100
about this,

9246
06:40:58,100 --> 06:40:59,100
but we do have a lot of other

9247
06:40:59,100 --> 06:41:00,100
partners raising the same issue

9248
06:41:00,100 --> 06:41:02,100
that aren't necessarily

9249
06:41:02,100 --> 06:41:04,100
neighborhood level like Camp

9250
06:41:04,100 --> 06:41:06,100
Meeker or Mark westwickiup.

9251
06:41:06,100 --> 06:41:08,100
And so I'm just wondering when

9252
06:41:08,100 --> 06:41:10,100
you give the direction to look

9253
06:41:10,100 --> 06:41:11,100
at what the cost might be,

9254
06:41:11,100 --> 06:41:13,100
is it just for these four

9255
06:41:13,100 --> 06:41:14,100
public infrastructure projects

9256
06:41:14,100 --> 06:41:15,100
or I'm just

9257
06:41:15,100 --> 06:41:16,100
in case that gets asked

9258
06:41:16,100 --> 06:41:17,100
of us.

9259
06:41:17,100 --> 06:41:18,100
>> I mean, I mean for me it

9260
06:41:18,100 --> 06:41:19,100
doesn't have

9261
06:41:19,100 --> 06:41:20,100
to be a comprehensive list. It

9262
06:41:20,100 --> 06:41:22,100
could be something that gives

9263
06:41:22,100 --> 06:41:23,100
it a scale. Right. It's very

9264
06:41:23,100 --> 06:41:24,100
hard to do that.

9265
06:41:24,100 --> 06:41:25,100
But you know, I mean,

9266
06:41:25,100 --> 06:41:26,100
I don't know about,

9267
06:41:26,100 --> 06:41:27,100
for everybody,

9268
06:41:27,100 --> 06:41:28,100
but I don't think we're

9269
06:41:28,100 --> 06:41:29,100
in a position to throw a list

9270
06:41:29,100 --> 06:41:30,100
of 40 together. And say

9271
06:41:30,100 --> 06:41:31,100
everybody that could want a

9272
06:41:31,100 --> 06:41:32,100
park in the future. What we

9273
06:41:32,100 --> 06:41:34,100
could do is say,

9274
06:41:34,100 --> 06:41:35,100
these are the ones

9275
06:41:35,100 --> 06:41:36,100
in the pipeline. Right. We are

9276
06:41:36,100 --> 06:41:37,100
going. You know, for me,

9277
06:41:37,100 --> 06:41:39,100
those are Geyserville and the

9278
06:41:39,100 --> 06:41:40,100
two in Mark west,

9279
06:41:40,100 --> 06:41:41,100
even though one of them's held

9280
06:41:41,100 --> 06:41:43,100
in water agency property. And

9281
06:41:43,100 --> 06:41:44,100
it's probably less

9282
06:41:44,100 --> 06:41:46,100
of a community park and more of

9283
06:41:46,100 --> 06:41:47,100
a hiking trail and weed

9284
06:41:47,100 --> 06:41:49,100
management.

9285
06:41:49,100 --> 06:41:50,100
But maybe neighborhood.

9286
06:41:50,100 --> 06:41:52,100
But if it does become that,

9287
06:41:52,100 --> 06:41:53,100
then it would have

9288
06:41:53,100 --> 06:41:54,100
to have a different plan. We'd

9289
06:41:54,100 --> 06:41:56,100
have to put a policy document

9290
06:41:56,100 --> 06:41:57,100
together that says if we're

9291
06:41:57,100 --> 06:41:58,100
going

9292
06:41:58,100 --> 06:41:59,100
to increase the investment

9293
06:41:59,100 --> 06:42:00,100
in the management

9294
06:42:00,100 --> 06:42:01,100
of this community park. Is it

9295
06:42:01,100 --> 06:42:02,100
really a regional park

9296
06:42:02,100 --> 06:42:03,100
at this point, then maybe. Is

9297
06:42:03,100 --> 06:42:04,100
there a local ballot major that

9298
06:42:04,100 --> 06:42:05,100
does it? But I think there

9299
06:42:05,100 --> 06:42:06,100
should be some standards that,

9300
06:42:06,100 --> 06:42:08,100
like this is bare label

9301
06:42:08,100 --> 06:42:09,100
maintenance and then solving

9302
06:42:09,100 --> 06:42:11,100
for this liability issue that I

9303
06:42:11,100 --> 06:42:12,100
just think is so relevant. I

9304
06:42:12,100 --> 06:42:14,100
mean, that's one

9305
06:42:14,100 --> 06:42:15,100
of the reasons that we took

9306
06:42:15,100 --> 06:42:17,100
Del Rio woods into the county

9307
06:42:17,100 --> 06:42:18,100
family was because they had a

9308
06:42:18,100 --> 06:42:20,100
special district. They. They

9309
06:42:20,100 --> 06:42:22,100
had accrued money. They weren't

9310
06:42:22,100 --> 06:42:23,100
able to manage it. They weren't

9311
06:42:23,100 --> 06:42:25,100
able

9312
06:42:25,100 --> 06:42:27,100
to get the permits anymore.

9313
06:42:27,100 --> 06:42:28,100
They weren't putting money

9314
06:42:28,100 --> 06:42:29,100
into the. And we saw it as an

9315
06:42:29,100 --> 06:42:31,100
asset on the river. Right.

9316
06:42:31,100 --> 06:42:33,100
So, I mean, I would just say it

9317
06:42:33,100 --> 06:42:34,100
might be mixed up, but

9318
06:42:34,100 --> 06:42:35,100
for me, I'd love to see what

9319
06:42:35,100 --> 06:42:37,100
that money would be annually.

9320
06:42:37,100 --> 06:42:38,100
Like, I don't know, Bert, if

9321
06:42:38,100 --> 06:42:40,100
you're going

9322
06:42:40,100 --> 06:42:41,100
to come back and. And be like,

9323
06:42:41,100 --> 06:42:43,100
that's to visit and do basic

9324
06:42:43,100 --> 06:42:44,100
maintenance and weed abatement,

9325
06:42:44,100 --> 06:42:47,100
that's going to be 100,000 a

9326
06:42:47,100 --> 06:42:48,100
year, or it's a million a year

9327
06:42:48,100 --> 06:42:50,100
for three parks.

9328
06:42:50,100 --> 06:42:53,100
>> No, thank you. And as we've

9329
06:42:53,100 --> 06:42:54,100
done a lot of research

9330
06:42:54,100 --> 06:42:57,100
over the years and trying

9331
06:42:57,100 --> 06:42:59,100
to figure out that answer

9332
06:42:59,100 --> 06:43:00,100
to that question. It depends.

9333
06:43:00,100 --> 06:43:01,100
We can tell you pretty much

9334
06:43:01,100 --> 06:43:02,100
what a bathroom costs

9335
06:43:02,100 --> 06:43:03,100
to service it, you know,

9336
06:43:03,100 --> 06:43:04,100
once a day,

9337
06:43:04,100 --> 06:43:05,100
how much it costs seasonally

9338
06:43:05,100 --> 06:43:07,100
to go to vegetation.

9339
06:43:07,100 --> 06:43:08,100
But different parks still,

9340
06:43:08,100 --> 06:43:09,100
even with that,

9341
06:43:09,100 --> 06:43:11,100
have different costs

9342
06:43:11,100 --> 06:43:12,100
for labor and personnel.

9343
06:43:12,100 --> 06:43:13,100
Andy's Unity park,

9344
06:43:13,100 --> 06:43:14,100
for example,

9345
06:43:14,100 --> 06:43:15,100
our average cost is

9346
06:43:15,100 --> 06:43:16,100
about 150k a year.

9347
06:43:16,100 --> 06:43:17,100
But some years it's 70, some

9348
06:43:17,100 --> 06:43:18,100
years it's over 200. It just

9349
06:43:18,100 --> 06:43:19,100
depends on what's going on to

9350
06:43:19,100 --> 06:43:20,100
keep that park safe and

9351
06:43:20,100 --> 06:43:22,100
appropriate for the public. So

9352
06:43:22,100 --> 06:43:23,100
we can. We can definitely work

9353
06:43:23,100 --> 06:43:25,100
on getting some numbers,

9354
06:43:25,100 --> 06:43:26,100
but there is always a bit

9355
06:43:26,100 --> 06:43:27,100
of a range and a bit

9356
06:43:27,100 --> 06:43:28,100
of a guesstimate

9357
06:43:28,100 --> 06:43:29,100
on the reality.

9358
06:43:29,100 --> 06:43:30,100
>> Thank you, Supervisor

9359
06:43:30,100 --> 06:43:31,100
Rabbitt.

9360
06:43:31,100 --> 06:43:32,100
>> Thank you very much. Always

9361
06:43:32,100 --> 06:43:33,100
appreciated conversation

9362
06:43:33,100 --> 06:43:35,100
regarding parks. And I go back

9363
06:43:35,100 --> 06:43:36,100
to and I'll probably said this

9364
06:43:36,100 --> 06:43:38,100
before I originally ran

9365
06:43:38,100 --> 06:43:40,100
for office in Petaluma, all

9366
06:43:40,100 --> 06:43:42,100
about parks and playing fields

9367
06:43:42,100 --> 06:43:43,100
and the lack thereof. And at

9368
06:43:43,100 --> 06:43:45,100
that time they had a standard.

9369
06:43:45,100 --> 06:43:47,100
And I talked to Bert and

9370
06:43:47,100 --> 06:43:49,100
friends about this, I think

9371
06:43:49,100 --> 06:43:51,100
just this week because the

9372
06:43:51,100 --> 06:43:52,100
QUIMBY act,

9373
06:43:52,100 --> 06:43:53,100
which is that method

9374
06:43:53,100 --> 06:43:55,100
to subdivisions to pay

9375
06:43:55,100 --> 06:43:57,100
for park impact fees of, you

9376
06:43:57,100 --> 06:43:58,000
know, they had a total of 5

9377
06:43:58,000 --> 06:44:00,100
acres per thousand residents.

9378
06:44:00,100 --> 06:44:02,100
And, and for years I've been

9379
06:44:02,100 --> 06:44:03,100
honestly trying to get what is

9380
06:44:03,100 --> 06:44:05,100
the county's overall park goal

9381
06:44:05,100 --> 06:44:07,100
and how close are we

9382
06:44:07,100 --> 06:44:09,100
to achieving it. And we used

9383
06:44:09,100 --> 06:44:10,100
to talk about it didn't matter

9384
06:44:10,100 --> 06:44:12,100
if it was a state park,

9385
06:44:12,100 --> 06:44:13,100
federal park, local park, city

9386
06:44:13,100 --> 06:44:15,100
park, whatever, regional park,

9387
06:44:15,100 --> 06:44:16,100
what is that kind

9388
06:44:16,100 --> 06:44:18,100
of goal and how does that work?

9389
06:44:18,100 --> 06:44:20,100
And it goes to park deserts. I

9390
06:44:20,100 --> 06:44:23,100
believe I must say that I have

9391
06:44:23,100 --> 06:44:24,100
a hard time really using what I

9392
06:44:24,100 --> 06:44:26,100
consider a city standard

9393
06:44:26,100 --> 06:44:28,100
of the 10 minute walk

9394
06:44:28,100 --> 06:44:29,100
to a park. Petaluma doesn't

9395
06:44:29,100 --> 06:44:31,100
meet a 10 minute standard. I

9396
06:44:31,100 --> 06:44:34,100
doubt if Santa Rosa meets a 10

9397
06:44:34,100 --> 06:44:35,100
minute standard. Petaluma gets

9398
06:44:35,100 --> 06:44:37,100
close,

9399
06:44:37,100 --> 06:44:38,100
but it doesn't meet it. You

9400
06:44:38,100 --> 06:44:39,100
know, I moved

9401
06:44:39,100 --> 06:44:41,100
across the street from a park

9402
06:44:41,100 --> 06:44:42,100
because my kids grew up in the

9403
06:44:42,100 --> 06:44:44,100
park and I did that cautiously

9404
06:44:44,100 --> 06:44:46,100
and it was less than a 10

9405
06:44:46,100 --> 06:44:47,100
minute walk.

9406
06:44:47,100 --> 06:44:49,100
But I do think that we need to

9407
06:44:49,100 --> 06:44:50,100
still have that discussion

9408
06:44:50,100 --> 06:44:52,100
about, you know, when,

9409
06:44:52,100 --> 06:44:55,100
when I remember early on

9410
06:44:55,100 --> 06:44:56,100
in my career here with now,

9411
06:44:56,100 --> 06:44:59,100
you know, Mike McGuire, when

9412
06:44:59,100 --> 06:45:01,100
Carol didn't see an, an acre of

9413
06:45:01,100 --> 06:45:03,100
land that could not be a park

9414
06:45:03,100 --> 06:45:05,100
and with all the state land

9415
06:45:05,100 --> 06:45:07,100
that was being turned over

9416
06:45:07,100 --> 06:45:08,100
right or bought and then not

9417
06:45:08,100 --> 06:45:10,100
being able to be afforded. And

9418
06:45:10,100 --> 06:45:11,100
the question

9419
06:45:11,100 --> 06:45:13,100
at that time post recession,

9420
06:45:13,100 --> 06:45:14,100
which was real, is like,

9421
06:45:14,100 --> 06:45:15,100
how the hell are we going

9422
06:45:15,100 --> 06:45:17,100
to afford to take care

9423
06:45:17,100 --> 06:45:18,100
of these, you know,

9424
06:45:18,100 --> 06:45:19,100
all these acres? And I know

9425
06:45:19,100 --> 06:45:20,100
that some remember that and

9426
06:45:20,100 --> 06:45:22,100
that was a huge question that

9427
06:45:22,100 --> 06:45:24,100
there wasn't an easy answer to.

9428
06:45:24,100 --> 06:45:25,100
We land bank some but it still

9429
06:45:25,100 --> 06:45:26,100
had ongoing costs and

9430
06:45:26,100 --> 06:45:28,100
maintenance. So I think we need

9431
06:45:28,100 --> 06:45:29,100
to continue the conversation

9432
06:45:29,100 --> 06:45:31,100
about this overall goal. Where

9433
06:45:31,100 --> 06:45:33,100
are those places

9434
06:45:33,100 --> 06:45:34,100
within the county? I, you know,

9435
06:45:34,100 --> 06:45:36,100
I guess I am a process person,

9436
06:45:36,100 --> 06:45:37,100
but I do think that it needs

9437
06:45:37,100 --> 06:45:38,100
to be an equitable,

9438
06:45:38,100 --> 06:45:40,100
county wide kind of overview of

9439
06:45:40,100 --> 06:45:42,100
our park systems and how it

9440
06:45:42,100 --> 06:45:44,100
works. And I do think that I

9441
06:45:44,100 --> 06:45:46,100
look forward to that. Again, I

9442
06:45:46,100 --> 06:45:49,601
think the, you know, Measure M

9443
06:45:54,100 --> 06:45:56,100
was 2/3, 1/3. The per capita is

9444
06:45:56,100 --> 06:45:58,401
heavily weighted on the,

9445
06:46:01,100 --> 06:46:02,100
on the unincorporated side. If

9446
06:46:02,100 --> 06:46:04,100
you just do the population

9447
06:46:04,100 --> 06:46:05,100
with the amount

9448
06:46:05,100 --> 06:46:06,100
of dollars that are coming in.

9449
06:46:06,100 --> 06:46:07,100
And then I think we just need

9450
06:46:07,100 --> 06:46:09,100
to kind of, you know,

9451
06:46:09,100 --> 06:46:11,100
really look for those

9452
06:46:11,100 --> 06:46:12,100
additional dollars. I spent

9453
06:46:12,100 --> 06:46:14,100
$2.9 million of my community

9454
06:46:14,100 --> 06:46:16,100
investment funds, all

9455
06:46:16,100 --> 06:46:18,100
on parks. And that's more than

9456
06:46:18,100 --> 06:46:20,100
what's shown on these slides

9457
06:46:20,100 --> 06:46:22,100
for the parks that are here

9458
06:46:22,100 --> 06:46:23,100
from I believe

9459
06:46:23,100 --> 06:46:25,100
in two districts. So there's,

9460
06:46:25,100 --> 06:46:27,100
there's sources there that can

9461
06:46:27,100 --> 06:46:28,100
be tapped into. TOT has a

9462
06:46:28,100 --> 06:46:30,100
dedicated park fund. Does that

9463
06:46:30,100 --> 06:46:32,100
need to be increased? And to my

9464
06:46:32,100 --> 06:46:34,100
colleague's point regarding,

9465
06:46:34,100 --> 06:46:37,100
you know, the budget, I think I

9466
06:46:37,100 --> 06:46:39,100
asked that same question

9467
06:46:39,100 --> 06:46:42,100
in our briefing about ongoing

9468
06:46:42,100 --> 06:46:43,100
maintenance costs. And I

9469
06:46:43,100 --> 06:46:45,100
totally get it. It's like

9470
06:46:45,100 --> 06:46:46,100
on a trail, right? That first

9471
06:46:46,100 --> 06:46:47,100
quarter mile is the quarter

9472
06:46:47,100 --> 06:46:49,100
mile that'll be the biggest

9473
06:46:49,100 --> 06:46:51,100
mess because that's where

9474
06:46:51,100 --> 06:46:52,100
people get in. And then once

9475
06:46:52,100 --> 06:46:53,100
you're past that,

9476
06:46:53,100 --> 06:46:55,100
it's a lot easier. So I think

9477
06:46:55,100 --> 06:46:56,100
that we need to kind

9478
06:46:56,100 --> 06:46:57,100
of continue going

9479
06:46:57,100 --> 06:46:58,100
in that direction. And then

9480
06:46:58,100 --> 06:47:00,100
finally, you know,

9481
06:47:00,100 --> 06:47:03,100
it always comes down to

9482
06:47:04,100 --> 06:47:06,100
financially sustainable

9483
06:47:06,100 --> 06:47:07,100
projects where you have one

9484
06:47:07,100 --> 06:47:08,100
time funding versus ongoing

9485
06:47:08,100 --> 06:47:10,100
maintenance or ongoing expenses

9486
06:47:10,100 --> 06:47:12,100
and really trying to

9487
06:47:12,100 --> 06:47:14,100
differentiate the two and

9488
06:47:14,100 --> 06:47:16,100
having a funding source that is

9489
06:47:16,100 --> 06:47:17,100
not limited, you know, I think

9490
06:47:17,100 --> 06:47:20,601
when you pass a special tax

9491
06:47:22,100 --> 06:47:25,100
like measure M, it's for those

9492
06:47:25,100 --> 06:47:27,100
deferred maintenance items,

9493
06:47:27,100 --> 06:47:29,100
it's for those one time capital

9494
06:47:29,100 --> 06:47:31,100
projects, it can't be for

9495
06:47:31,100 --> 06:47:32,100
ongoing maintenance pieces

9496
06:47:32,100 --> 06:47:33,100
because it's not guaranteed

9497
06:47:33,100 --> 06:47:35,100
into the future. And

9498
06:47:35,100 --> 06:47:36,100
at some point you're going

9499
06:47:36,100 --> 06:47:37,100
to have to face the music

9500
06:47:37,100 --> 06:47:38,100
of perhaps, you know,

9501
06:47:38,100 --> 06:47:40,100
there's no guarantees in life

9502
06:47:40,100 --> 06:47:41,100
and there's no guarantees

9503
06:47:41,100 --> 06:47:43,100
at the polls either. So that,

9504
06:47:43,100 --> 06:47:45,100
and I will also say how what's

9505
06:47:45,100 --> 06:47:47,100
true too in park world. Tell me

9506
06:47:47,100 --> 06:47:48,100
if this is false. Park needs

9507
06:47:48,100 --> 06:47:51,100
change over time based upon

9508
06:47:52,100 --> 06:47:53,100
where the community is. I can

9509
06:47:53,100 --> 06:47:55,100
tell you down my way,

9510
06:47:55,100 --> 06:47:56,100
we have an influx

9511
06:47:56,100 --> 06:47:58,100
on the west side

9512
06:47:58,100 --> 06:47:59,100
of younger families, but we

9513
06:47:59,100 --> 06:48:00,100
still have an aging community

9514
06:48:00,100 --> 06:48:02,100
overall. You know, I bet you

9515
06:48:02,100 --> 06:48:03,100
trails and dog walking trails

9516
06:48:03,100 --> 06:48:04,100
are in much more demand now

9517
06:48:04,100 --> 06:48:05,100
than the swings

9518
06:48:05,100 --> 06:48:07,100
in the playground were. Partly

9519
06:48:07,100 --> 06:48:09,100
because I don't fit in the

9520
06:48:09,100 --> 06:48:11,100
swings anymore and probably

9521
06:48:11,100 --> 06:48:12,100
kill myself. But you know,

9522
06:48:12,100 --> 06:48:13,100
there's, I think you need

9523
06:48:13,100 --> 06:48:14,100
to look at everything

9524
06:48:14,100 --> 06:48:16,100
holistically and I appreciate

9525
06:48:16,100 --> 06:48:17,100
having a workshop in order

9526
06:48:17,100 --> 06:48:18,100
to kind of bring these subjects

9527
06:48:18,100 --> 06:48:20,100
matters up.

9528
06:48:20,100 --> 06:48:21,100
But I do think that we need

9529
06:48:21,100 --> 06:48:23,100
to kind of have that overall

9530
06:48:23,100 --> 06:48:25,100
both a overall land use plan

9531
06:48:25,100 --> 06:48:26,100
for the county of what,

9532
06:48:26,100 --> 06:48:28,100
what are we really trying

9533
06:48:28,100 --> 06:48:29,100
to achieve and how are we

9534
06:48:29,100 --> 06:48:31,100
trying to achieve it. And I

9535
06:48:31,100 --> 06:48:32,100
again will say that the 10

9536
06:48:32,100 --> 06:48:33,100
minute walk thing in the

9537
06:48:33,100 --> 06:48:34,100
unincorporated county just

9538
06:48:34,100 --> 06:48:36,100
doesn't work for me. You know,

9539
06:48:36,100 --> 06:48:37,100
whether it's an acreage per

9540
06:48:37,100 --> 06:48:39,100
resident, whether you want

9541
06:48:39,100 --> 06:48:42,100
to parse out urbanized areas

9542
06:48:42,100 --> 06:48:44,100
and do something that works

9543
06:48:44,100 --> 06:48:46,100
within those areas. So at least

9544
06:48:46,100 --> 06:48:47,100
we have a goal and it's fair

9545
06:48:47,100 --> 06:48:48,100
and equitable

9546
06:48:48,100 --> 06:48:50,100
across the county

9547
06:48:50,100 --> 06:48:52,100
down my way. I will say Pen

9548
06:48:52,100 --> 06:48:53,100
Grove has its own private park.

9549
06:48:53,100 --> 06:48:54,100
It's open to the public,

9550
06:48:54,100 --> 06:48:56,100
but it's Pen Grove social

9551
06:48:56,100 --> 06:48:58,100
firemen. Bloomfield has its own

9552
06:48:58,100 --> 06:49:00,100
private, privately owned park

9553
06:49:00,100 --> 06:49:02,100
that is open to everyone. And

9554
06:49:02,100 --> 06:49:04,100
look at Petaluma. They're

9555
06:49:04,100 --> 06:49:05,100
embarking on probably one

9556
06:49:05,100 --> 06:49:07,100
of the larger park projects

9557
06:49:07,100 --> 06:49:08,100
in the county, in the Petaluma

9558
06:49:08,100 --> 06:49:10,100
river park,

9559
06:49:10,100 --> 06:49:12,100
which is 100% private. So, you

9560
06:49:12,100 --> 06:49:14,100
know, we need to kind

9561
06:49:14,100 --> 06:49:15,100
of push all this stuff together

9562
06:49:15,100 --> 06:49:17,100
to make sure that we can

9563
06:49:17,100 --> 06:49:19,100
continue going in a way that I

9564
06:49:19,100 --> 06:49:20,100
think it will be financially

9565
06:49:20,100 --> 06:49:22,100
sustainable long term and not

9566
06:49:22,100 --> 06:49:23,100
put undue pressure

9567
06:49:23,100 --> 06:49:25,100
on park's budget

9568
06:49:25,100 --> 06:49:27,100
in future years, but have them

9569
06:49:27,100 --> 06:49:29,100
be truly skating forward on a

9570
06:49:29,100 --> 06:49:31,100
good financial platform.

9571
06:49:35,100 --> 06:49:37,100
>> Thank you,

9572
06:49:37,100 --> 06:49:39,100
supervisor.

9573
06:49:39,100 --> 06:49:40,100
>> I just wanted to briefly

9574
06:49:40,100 --> 06:49:41,100
note that it would appear that

9575
06:49:41,100 --> 06:49:42,100
March 24, 2026, is the first

9576
06:49:42,100 --> 06:49:44,100
time that Supervisor Rabbitt

9577
06:49:44,100 --> 06:49:45,100
and I have agreed on how

9578
06:49:45,100 --> 06:49:47,100
tourism dollars should be

9579
06:49:47,100 --> 06:49:49,100
spent. I would wholly support

9580
06:49:49,100 --> 06:49:51,100
more going into parks

9581
06:49:51,100 --> 06:49:53,100
to fund that work. And also

9582
06:49:53,100 --> 06:49:55,100
just want to say thanks

9583
06:49:55,100 --> 06:49:56,100
for sharing about Bloomfield

9584
06:49:56,100 --> 06:49:57,100
and Pen Grove. I had always

9585
06:49:57,100 --> 06:49:59,100
thought that it was just

9586
06:49:59,100 --> 06:50:00,100
Forestville that was one

9587
06:50:00,100 --> 06:50:01,100
of the ones that had this, you

9588
06:50:01,100 --> 06:50:02,100
know, sort of only nonprofit,

9589
06:50:02,100 --> 06:50:03,100
you know,

9590
06:50:03,100 --> 06:50:04,100
not government funded.

9591
06:50:04,100 --> 06:50:05,100
But it's. It's great to hear

9592
06:50:05,100 --> 06:50:06,100
of other opportunities

9593
06:50:06,100 --> 06:50:08,100
in the community and there may

9594
06:50:08,100 --> 06:50:09,100
be other opportunities

9595
06:50:09,100 --> 06:50:10,100
to support some

9596
06:50:10,100 --> 06:50:11,100
of that work as well.

9597
06:50:11,100 --> 06:50:12,100
>> Thank you so much. Thank you

9598
06:50:12,100 --> 06:50:14,401
for bringing this workshop

9599
06:50:15,100 --> 06:50:17,100
forward. I appreciate it. I

9600
06:50:17,100 --> 06:50:19,100
think that I agree with a lot

9601
06:50:19,100 --> 06:50:21,100
of my colleagues in this is an

9602
06:50:21,100 --> 06:50:23,100
important conversation and

9603
06:50:24,100 --> 06:50:27,100
making sure that what we are

9604
06:50:27,100 --> 06:50:30,601
delivering is a park that meets

9605
06:50:32,100 --> 06:50:34,100
the needs of each community.

9606
06:50:34,100 --> 06:50:36,100
It will be a little bit

9607
06:50:36,100 --> 06:50:38,100
different for each district.

9608
06:50:38,100 --> 06:50:39,100
And even in those districts,

9609
06:50:39,100 --> 06:50:41,100
those areas. I agree with

9610
06:50:41,100 --> 06:50:43,100
Supervisor Rabbitt. Maybe the

9611
06:50:43,100 --> 06:50:45,100
10 mile, 10 minute criteria

9612
06:50:48,100 --> 06:50:49,100
won't work. It won't work

9613
06:50:49,100 --> 06:50:50,100
in the Springs. It won't work

9614
06:50:50,100 --> 06:50:53,100
in, you know, Bennett Valley.

9615
06:50:53,100 --> 06:50:54,100
And so really assessing the

9616
06:50:54,100 --> 06:50:56,100
county as a whole so that we

9617
06:50:56,100 --> 06:50:58,100
can prioritize the needs

9618
06:50:58,100 --> 06:51:00,100
of the community,

9619
06:51:00,100 --> 06:51:02,100
of the county,

9620
06:51:02,100 --> 06:51:04,100
and also as part of that,

9621
06:51:04,100 --> 06:51:06,100
to deliver for constituents,

9622
06:51:06,100 --> 06:51:08,100
how do we incorporate the cost

9623
06:51:08,100 --> 06:51:11,100
to maintain those parks? And if

9624
06:51:11,100 --> 06:51:13,401
we have to guess

9625
06:51:14,100 --> 06:51:16,100
at the maintenance number,

9626
06:51:16,100 --> 06:51:18,100
I think we should. It should be

9627
06:51:18,100 --> 06:51:20,100
a line item that is part

9628
06:51:20,100 --> 06:51:22,100
of the planning for parks for

9629
06:51:22,100 --> 06:51:24,100
our community. I also know that

9630
06:51:24,100 --> 06:51:26,401
oftentimes when budgets are

9631
06:51:28,100 --> 06:51:31,100
stretched, we're asked to dip

9632
06:51:33,100 --> 06:51:35,100
into general funds. And those

9633
06:51:35,100 --> 06:51:36,100
are safety nets

9634
06:51:36,100 --> 06:51:39,100
for the entire community. And I

9635
06:51:39,100 --> 06:51:42,100
will restate that this year and

9636
06:51:42,100 --> 06:51:44,100
next and maybe the next year

9637
06:51:44,100 --> 06:51:46,100
after, we're going to have to

9638
06:51:46,100 --> 06:51:47,100
make some really tough choices.

9639
06:51:47,100 --> 06:51:49,100
So

9640
06:51:49,100 --> 06:51:50,100
of the parks that you presented

9641
06:51:50,100 --> 06:51:52,100
in your slideshow, I'd like

9642
06:51:52,100 --> 06:51:54,100
to have.

9643
06:51:54,100 --> 06:51:55,100
>> Bring that back and have a

9644
06:51:55,100 --> 06:51:56,100
more comprehensive plan

9645
06:51:56,100 --> 06:51:58,100
in conversation of

9646
06:51:58,100 --> 06:51:59,100
like what is moving forward,

9647
06:51:59,100 --> 06:52:00,100
get board support and. And know

9648
06:52:00,100 --> 06:52:03,100
that we have limited resources

9649
06:52:03,100 --> 06:52:06,601
with that. Thank you. I think

9650
06:52:08,100 --> 06:52:10,100
this is informational. Yes. CEO

9651
06:52:10,100 --> 06:52:12,100
Rivera.

9652
06:52:12,100 --> 06:52:14,100
>> Thank you, Chair. So it is a

9653
06:52:14,100 --> 06:52:15,100
workshop and it's a workshop

9654
06:52:15,100 --> 06:52:17,100
that looks to get direction,

9655
06:52:17,100 --> 06:52:18,100
majority direction

9656
06:52:18,100 --> 06:52:20,100
from the board. And it sounds

9657
06:52:20,100 --> 06:52:23,100
as we would narrow the focus

9658
06:52:23,100 --> 06:52:25,100
down to these parks that are

9659
06:52:25,100 --> 06:52:27,100
underway, if you will,

9660
06:52:27,100 --> 06:52:29,100
to provide. No.

9661
06:52:29,100 --> 06:52:30,100
>> Okay.

9662
06:52:30,100 --> 06:52:31,100
>> I'm trying

9663
06:52:31,100 --> 06:52:32,100
to understand what comes back.

9664
06:52:32,100 --> 06:52:33,100
Right. We can come back

9665
06:52:33,100 --> 06:52:34,100
for certain. Right. With more

9666
06:52:34,100 --> 06:52:35,100
information and some ranges

9667
06:52:35,100 --> 06:52:37,100
of costing

9668
06:52:37,100 --> 06:52:39,100
of operations and maintenance.

9669
06:52:39,100 --> 06:52:41,100
But what I'm missing is what's

9670
06:52:41,100 --> 06:52:45,100
the scope of that? And once we

9671
06:52:45,100 --> 06:52:47,100
create this scope,

9672
06:52:47,100 --> 06:52:49,100
is it four parks? Is it all the

9673
06:52:49,100 --> 06:52:51,100
parks, but not including the

9674
06:52:51,100 --> 06:52:53,100
regional parks.

9675
06:52:53,100 --> 06:52:54,100
>> Right. Because we may still

9676
06:52:54,100 --> 06:52:55,100
have gaps in our even current

9677
06:52:55,100 --> 06:52:57,100
parks right now,

9678
06:52:57,100 --> 06:52:59,100
like the gophers at Raygo

9679
06:52:59,100 --> 06:53:02,601
Park. And then what is the

9680
06:53:03,100 --> 06:53:04,100
universe. More costing. Okay,

9681
06:53:04,100 --> 06:53:06,100
and then what do we do

9682
06:53:06,100 --> 06:53:08,100
with that? Do we then present

9683
06:53:08,100 --> 06:53:11,601
options such as, okay, the TOT

9684
06:53:14,100 --> 06:53:16,401
policy provides this much

9685
06:53:18,100 --> 06:53:19,100
for tourism impact funds, but

9686
06:53:19,100 --> 06:53:22,100
we can redirect those dollars

9687
06:53:23,100 --> 06:53:24,100
now onto parks. I just trying

9688
06:53:24,100 --> 06:53:26,100
to figure out what is the

9689
06:53:26,100 --> 06:53:27,100
product that would be helpful

9690
06:53:27,100 --> 06:53:28,100
for the board to continue the

9691
06:53:28,100 --> 06:53:29,100
conversation and if this is a

9692
06:53:29,100 --> 06:53:31,100
product that is intended

9693
06:53:31,100 --> 06:53:33,100
to occur in time for budget

9694
06:53:33,100 --> 06:53:35,100
deliberations. I think I'm also

9695
06:53:35,100 --> 06:53:36,100
challenged with that. So

9696
06:53:36,100 --> 06:53:38,100
looking for clarity,

9697
06:53:38,100 --> 06:53:40,100
>> I just wanted

9698
06:53:41,100 --> 06:53:43,100
to also forgot that

9699
06:53:43,100 --> 06:53:45,100
in a previous iteration of the

9700
06:53:45,100 --> 06:53:46,100
unincorporated governance ad

9701
06:53:46,100 --> 06:53:47,100
hoc, I believe this was back

9702
06:53:47,100 --> 06:53:49,100
when it was me and Supervisor

9703
06:53:49,100 --> 06:53:51,100
Gore, we actually did have a

9704
06:53:51,100 --> 06:53:52,100
heat map to Supervisor

9705
06:53:52,100 --> 06:53:54,100
Rabbitt's point about sort of

9706
06:53:54,100 --> 06:53:55,100
where are the park deserts and

9707
06:53:55,100 --> 06:53:56,100
what. And I think that AG and

9708
06:53:56,100 --> 06:53:58,100
Open Space has actually used

9709
06:53:58,100 --> 06:53:59,100
that data to help prioritize

9710
06:53:59,100 --> 06:54:00,100
matching grant projects. Is

9711
06:54:00,100 --> 06:54:02,100
that correct? Because we

9712
06:54:02,100 --> 06:54:03,100
actually did look

9713
06:54:03,100 --> 06:54:04,100
at what's the density

9714
06:54:04,100 --> 06:54:05,100
of population,

9715
06:54:05,100 --> 06:54:07,100
how far are they

9716
06:54:07,100 --> 06:54:08,100
to the nearest community park.

9717
06:54:08,100 --> 06:54:09,100
So we do have some stuff that

9718
06:54:09,100 --> 06:54:10,100
could be shared with the board

9719
06:54:10,100 --> 06:54:11,100
that was already a matter

9720
06:54:11,100 --> 06:54:13,100
of public record previously,

9721
06:54:13,100 --> 06:54:14,100
I think. Is that correct?

9722
06:54:14,100 --> 06:54:15,100
>> And it is a link to the

9723
06:54:15,100 --> 06:54:16,100
PowerPoint, the gap analysis.

9724
06:54:16,100 --> 06:54:18,100
Okay.

9725
06:54:18,100 --> 06:54:19,100
>> On that same page where the

9726
06:54:19,100 --> 06:54:20,100
gap analysis is found are also

9727
06:54:20,100 --> 06:54:21,100
other enviro screens that

9728
06:54:21,100 --> 06:54:22,100
you're talking

9729
06:54:22,100 --> 06:54:24,100
about that was. Yep. The enviro

9730
06:54:24,100 --> 06:54:25,100
screen, I think, was what I

9731
06:54:25,100 --> 06:54:26,100
was. I was talking about. And

9732
06:54:26,100 --> 06:54:27,100
then. And then I guess my

9733
06:54:27,100 --> 06:54:29,100
request would just be that

9734
06:54:29,100 --> 06:54:30,100
we're able

9735
06:54:30,100 --> 06:54:31,100
to have this conversation

9736
06:54:31,100 --> 06:54:32,100
before suddenly we're having an

9737
06:54:32,100 --> 06:54:33,100
up and down vote

9738
06:54:33,100 --> 06:54:34,100
on a measure M measure. You

9739
06:54:34,100 --> 06:54:35,100
know,

9740
06:54:35,100 --> 06:54:37,100
is there some opportunity

9741
06:54:37,100 --> 06:54:38,100
of looking

9742
06:54:38,100 --> 06:54:39,100
at unincorporated parks? And I

9743
06:54:39,100 --> 06:54:40,100
wouldn't Want to exclude if

9744
06:54:40,100 --> 06:54:41,100
there are. I mean,

9745
06:54:41,100 --> 06:54:42,100
I'm. I'm thrilled to have

9746
06:54:42,100 --> 06:54:43,100
Forestville and Guernville

9747
06:54:43,100 --> 06:54:44,100
on the list,

9748
06:54:44,100 --> 06:54:45,100
but I also wouldn't want

9749
06:54:45,100 --> 06:54:46,100
to exclude if there are, say,

9750
06:54:46,100 --> 06:54:48,100
needs in Pen Grove or, you

9751
06:54:48,100 --> 06:54:49,100
know, I mean, Moreland has

9752
06:54:49,100 --> 06:54:50,100
Andy's Unity park, but if there

9753
06:54:50,100 --> 06:54:51,100
are any other unincorporated

9754
06:54:51,100 --> 06:54:52,100
areas of D3 or, you know,

9755
06:54:52,100 --> 06:54:53,100
D1 that don't have, you know,

9756
06:54:53,100 --> 06:54:55,100
their funding needs met.

9757
06:54:55,100 --> 06:54:56,100
But I, you know, I would love

9758
06:54:56,100 --> 06:54:57,100
to look at is there group in

9759
06:54:57,100 --> 06:54:58,100
tot that we could potentially

9760
06:54:58,100 --> 06:55:00,100
invest in this and

9761
06:55:00,100 --> 06:55:02,100
to have that conversation

9762
06:55:02,100 --> 06:55:04,100
before it's up or down on

9763
06:55:04,100 --> 06:55:06,100
Measure M 2.0.

9764
06:55:08,100 --> 06:55:10,100
>> Supervisor Vice Chair.

9765
06:55:10,100 --> 06:55:13,100
>> Yeah, I'm good with what

9766
06:55:13,100 --> 06:55:15,100
Supervisor Hopkins said. With

9767
06:55:15,100 --> 06:55:17,100
what you said. I do have. I

9768
06:55:17,100 --> 06:55:18,100
would prefer that we have a

9769
06:55:18,100 --> 06:55:20,100
wider scope

9770
06:55:20,100 --> 06:55:23,601
of what we're looking at than

9771
06:55:24,100 --> 06:55:25,100
just the four projects that we

9772
06:55:25,100 --> 06:55:28,100
saw today. I would love

9773
06:55:28,100 --> 06:55:29,100
to see a heat map. I would love

9774
06:55:29,100 --> 06:55:32,100
to see a list of maybe options

9775
06:55:32,100 --> 06:55:34,100
of how to provide maintenance

9776
06:55:34,100 --> 06:55:36,100
and operations of parks going

9777
06:55:36,100 --> 06:55:38,100
into perpetuity. Because you

9778
06:55:38,100 --> 06:55:40,100
break it, you own it,

9779
06:55:40,100 --> 06:55:43,601
and just. There's a new park

9780
06:55:45,100 --> 06:55:48,100
coming into the Roseland area,

9781
06:55:49,100 --> 06:55:50,100
which is in Santa Rosa now,

9782
06:55:50,100 --> 06:55:52,100
but it's uncounted property

9783
06:55:52,100 --> 06:55:55,100
at Roselyn Village. And we're

9784
06:55:56,100 --> 06:55:58,100
trying to give it to the city

9785
06:55:58,100 --> 06:56:01,100
of Santa Rosa because we don't.

9786
06:56:01,100 --> 06:56:02,100
We haven't identified

9787
06:56:02,100 --> 06:56:04,100
maintenance and operation

9788
06:56:04,100 --> 06:56:05,100
of that park into the future.

9789
06:56:05,100 --> 06:56:07,100
So this is a problem

9790
06:56:07,100 --> 06:56:09,401
everywhere. We should be

9791
06:56:10,100 --> 06:56:11,100
looking at it on a.

9792
06:56:11,100 --> 06:56:12,100
On a wide basis,

9793
06:56:12,100 --> 06:56:13,100
wide focus.

9794
06:56:13,100 --> 06:56:15,100
>> Okay.

9795
06:56:16,100 --> 06:56:18,100
>> Think I got it.

9796
06:56:18,100 --> 06:56:19,100
>> We got it.

9797
06:56:19,100 --> 06:56:20,100
>> Great.

9798
06:56:20,100 --> 06:56:21,100
>> Thank you.

9799
06:56:21,100 --> 06:56:23,100
>> It's going to be like one of

9800
06:56:23,100 --> 06:56:24,100
those pictures that we painted

9801
06:56:24,100 --> 06:56:25,100
something,

9802
06:56:25,100 --> 06:56:26,100
and then we're going

9803
06:56:26,100 --> 06:56:27,100
to color something. I'm going

9804
06:56:27,100 --> 06:56:28,100
to bring it back and see what

9805
06:56:28,100 --> 06:56:29,100
colors we missed.

9806
06:56:29,100 --> 06:56:30,100
>> We have white out and

9807
06:56:30,100 --> 06:56:31,100
Sharpie.

9808
06:56:31,100 --> 06:56:32,100
>> There you go.

9809
06:56:32,100 --> 06:56:34,100
>> Well, continue the

9810
06:56:34,100 --> 06:56:35,100
conversation. Thank you.

9811
06:56:35,100 --> 06:56:37,100
>> Thank you so much. And now

9812
06:56:37,100 --> 06:56:40,100
with that, we are going

9813
06:56:41,100 --> 06:56:44,100
to move to item number 50,

9814
06:56:44,100 --> 06:56:46,100
permit Sonomas Acts and

9815
06:56:46,100 --> 06:56:48,100
Determinations. Waving the

9816
06:56:50,100 --> 06:56:52,100
presentation.

9817
06:56:52,100 --> 06:56:54,100
>> Second, you need some.

9818
06:56:54,100 --> 06:56:56,100
>> We need public comment.

9819
06:56:56,100 --> 06:56:59,100
>> It's so fun to keep.

9820
06:57:31,100 --> 06:57:33,100
>> So now we're moving on to

9821
06:57:33,100 --> 06:57:35,401
I. Item 50 Acts and

9822
06:57:36,100 --> 06:57:39,100
Determinations. And if I don't

9823
06:57:42,100 --> 06:57:43,100
see anyone in the audience

9824
06:57:43,100 --> 06:57:45,100
to give comments

9825
06:57:45,100 --> 06:57:46,100
on agenda item 50. With that,

9826
06:57:46,100 --> 06:57:48,100
I'll bring it to the board

9827
06:57:48,100 --> 06:57:49,100
with any questions or comments.

9828
06:57:49,100 --> 06:57:51,100
If not, there is a. Is there a

9829
06:57:51,100 --> 06:57:52,100
motion and a second

9830
06:57:52,100 --> 06:57:54,100
to approve?

9831
06:57:54,100 --> 06:57:55,100
>> Yes, there is a motion.

9832
06:57:55,100 --> 06:57:57,100
>> Second.

9833
06:57:57,100 --> 06:57:59,100
>> Roll call.

9834
06:58:01,100 --> 06:58:03,100
>> [CALLING ROLL]

9835
06:58:20,100 --> 06:58:21,100
>> Thank you.

9836
06:58:21,100 --> 06:58:22,100
>> And now we are going

9837
06:58:22,100 --> 06:58:24,100
to report out, please. County

9838
06:58:24,100 --> 06:58:25,100
council, swiftly.

9839
06:58:25,100 --> 06:58:27,100
>> Thank you, Chair.

9840
06:58:27,100 --> 06:58:28,100
Everybody's favorite part

9841
06:58:28,100 --> 06:58:30,100
of the meeting report out for

9842
06:58:30,100 --> 06:58:31,100
March 10, 2026. Closed session

9843
06:58:31,100 --> 06:58:32,100
the board met

9844
06:58:32,100 --> 06:58:33,100
in closed session

9845
06:58:33,100 --> 06:58:34,100
to discuss items one

9846
06:58:34,100 --> 06:58:36,100
through eight on the agenda.

9847
06:58:36,100 --> 06:58:37,100
As previously noted on March

9848
06:58:37,100 --> 06:58:38,100
10, item seven and eight were

9849
06:58:38,100 --> 06:58:39,000
continued and not discussed

9850
06:58:39,000 --> 06:58:40,100
by the Board. On item one,

9851
06:58:40,100 --> 06:58:41,100
the Board of Supervisors met

9852
06:58:41,100 --> 06:58:43,100
in closed session to consider

9853
06:58:43,100 --> 06:58:44,100
the public employee performance

9854
06:58:44,100 --> 06:58:46,100
evaluation of the General

9855
06:58:46,100 --> 06:58:47,100
Manager of the Sonoma County

9856
06:58:47,100 --> 06:58:49,100
Water Agency. No reportable

9857
06:58:49,100 --> 06:58:50,100
action was taken. The Board

9858
06:58:50,100 --> 06:58:52,100
gave direction to staff

9859
06:58:52,100 --> 06:58:55,601
on item number two. It was

9860
06:58:56,100 --> 06:58:57,100
conference

9861
06:58:57,100 --> 06:58:58,100
with real property negotiator

9862
06:58:58,100 --> 06:59:00,100
for the Sonoma County Water

9863
06:59:00,100 --> 06:59:01,100
Agency regarding property on

9864
06:59:01,100 --> 06:59:04,100
River Road in Forestville APNS

9865
06:59:14,100 --> 06:59:16,100
083020097 and 00830 20098. The

9866
06:59:16,100 --> 06:59:17,100
negotiating parties were the

9867
06:59:17,100 --> 06:59:19,100
Sonoma County Water Agency and

9868
06:59:19,100 --> 06:59:20,100
Dermot Burke and Darius

9869
06:59:20,100 --> 06:59:23,100
Burke. No reportable action was

9870
06:59:23,100 --> 06:59:24,100
taken. The Board gave direction

9871
06:59:24,100 --> 06:59:25,100
to its real property

9872
06:59:25,100 --> 06:59:27,100
negotiators. And then

9873
06:59:28,100 --> 06:59:30,401
for items number three

9874
06:59:34,100 --> 06:59:36,100
through six,

9875
06:59:37,100 --> 06:59:38,100
these were also conference

9876
06:59:38,100 --> 06:59:40,100
with real property negotiators

9877
06:59:40,100 --> 06:59:42,100
Misty Arias for the

9878
06:59:42,100 --> 06:59:43,100
Agricultural Preservation and

9879
06:59:43,100 --> 06:59:44,100
Open Space District regarding

9880
06:59:44,100 --> 06:59:46,100
proposed acquisitions

9881
06:59:46,100 --> 06:59:47,100
of four conservation easements

9882
06:59:47,100 --> 06:59:49,100
on South Sonoma Mountain

9883
06:59:49,100 --> 06:59:51,100
described as Grove, Rogers

9884
06:59:51,100 --> 06:59:53,100
Creek North, Rogers Creek south

9885
06:59:53,100 --> 06:59:54,100
and Skyline

9886
06:59:54,100 --> 06:59:55,100
in the unincorporated Sonoma

9887
06:59:55,100 --> 06:59:57,100
County, California. No

9888
06:59:57,100 --> 06:59:59,100
reportable action. The Board

9889
06:59:59,100 --> 07:00:00,100
gave direction to its real

9890
07:00:00,100 --> 07:00:01,100
party negotiator real property

9891
07:00:01,100 --> 07:00:04,100
negotiators and then today the

9892
07:00:06,100 --> 07:00:07,100
Board met in closed session

9893
07:00:07,100 --> 07:00:10,100
to consider items 1, 2 and 2A.

9894
07:00:10,100 --> 07:00:13,100
On item 1, the Board of

9895
07:00:14,100 --> 07:00:16,100
Supervisors met

9896
07:00:16,100 --> 07:00:17,100
in closed session to consider

9897
07:00:17,100 --> 07:00:18,100
the public employee performance

9898
07:00:18,100 --> 07:00:20,100
evaluation Sonoma County

9899
07:00:20,100 --> 07:00:22,401
Executive Officer no reportable

9900
07:00:23,100 --> 07:00:24,100
action was taken. The Board

9901
07:00:24,100 --> 07:00:26,401
gave direction to staff.

9902
07:00:29,100 --> 07:00:30,100
On item two, the Board met

9903
07:00:30,100 --> 07:00:32,100
in conference with legal

9904
07:00:32,100 --> 07:00:33,100
counsel regarding existing

9905
07:00:33,100 --> 07:00:35,100
litigation, the Vasilios

9906
07:00:35,100 --> 07:00:36,100
Triant vs County of Sonoma et

9907
07:00:36,100 --> 07:00:38,100
al matter and the Sonoma

9908
07:00:38,100 --> 07:00:39,100
County Superior court case

9909
07:00:39,100 --> 07:00:41,100
number SCV 269067. The board

9910
07:00:41,100 --> 07:00:43,100
received additional information

9911
07:00:47,100 --> 07:00:48,100
regarding

9912
07:00:48,100 --> 07:00:50,100
from staff and then the Board

9913
07:00:50,100 --> 07:00:51,100
provided further direction to

9914
07:00:51,100 --> 07:00:53,100
staff and did not take any

9915
07:00:53,100 --> 07:00:55,401
reportable action. And finally

9916
07:00:56,100 --> 07:00:59,601
on Item 2A, the Board of

9917
07:01:00,100 --> 07:01:03,601
Supervisors met if I can get

9918
07:01:05,100 --> 07:01:08,100
to my report with real

9919
07:01:09,100 --> 07:01:11,100
Property negotiators regarding

9920
07:01:11,100 --> 07:01:13,100
400 Aviation Boulevard, Santa

9921
07:01:13,100 --> 07:01:15,100
Rosa, California. The agency

9922
07:01:15,100 --> 07:01:17,100
negotiator is Johannes

9923
07:01:17,100 --> 07:01:19,100
Hoverts, Director of Sonoma

9924
07:01:19,100 --> 07:01:21,100
County Public Infrastructure

9925
07:01:21,100 --> 07:01:22,100
and Warren Sattler, the Real

9926
07:01:22,100 --> 07:01:24,100
Estate manager for the county

9927
07:01:24,100 --> 07:01:26,100
of Sonoma and the negotiating

9928
07:01:26,100 --> 07:01:27,100
parties were the county of

9929
07:01:27,100 --> 07:01:29,100
Sonoma and the American Ag

9930
07:01:29,100 --> 07:01:31,100
Credit FLCA under negotiation

9931
07:01:31,100 --> 07:01:32,100
were priced terms and

9932
07:01:32,100 --> 07:01:34,100
conditions of a proposed actual

9933
07:01:34,100 --> 07:01:36,100
acquisition. The Board received

9934
07:01:36,100 --> 07:01:37,100
additional information in

9935
07:01:37,100 --> 07:01:38,100
closed session regarding the

9936
07:01:38,100 --> 07:01:40,100
real estate negotiations for

9937
07:01:40,100 --> 07:01:41,100
400 Aviation Boulevard. The

9938
07:01:41,100 --> 07:01:43,100
board provided further

9939
07:01:43,100 --> 07:01:44,100
direction to staff and did not

9940
07:01:44,100 --> 07:01:46,100
take any reportable action.

9941
07:01:46,100 --> 07:01:47,100
That concludes the Report outs

9942
07:01:47,100 --> 07:01:49,100
from the closed sessions for

9943
07:01:49,100 --> 07:01:51,100
March 10th and March 24th of

9944
07:01:51,100 --> 07:01:52,100
2026. Thank you, Chair.

9945
07:01:52,100 --> 07:01:54,100
>> Thank you so much. And with

9946
07:01:54,100 --> 07:01:57,100
that is there board member

9947
07:01:58,100 --> 07:01:59,100
report outs, Supervisor

9948
07:01:59,100 --> 07:02:01,100
Hopkins?

9949
07:02:02,100 --> 07:02:03,100
>> All right. On Wednesday

9950
07:02:03,100 --> 07:02:05,100
11th, we had an immigrant

9951
07:02:05,100 --> 07:02:07,100
support ad hoc. On Thursday the

9952
07:02:07,100 --> 07:02:09,100
12th, I attended an Ag Council

9953
07:02:09,100 --> 07:02:10,100
meeting in Napa on behalf

9954
07:02:10,100 --> 07:02:12,100
of the California Air

9955
07:02:12,100 --> 07:02:14,100
Resources Board, and

9956
07:02:14,100 --> 07:02:15,100
in the afternoon attended the

9957
07:02:15,100 --> 07:02:16,100
Santa Rosa plain GSA where we

9958
07:02:16,100 --> 07:02:18,100
adopted our annual budget.

9959
07:02:18,100 --> 07:02:19,100
Also on the 12th,

9960
07:02:19,100 --> 07:02:20,100
attended a lower Russian

9961
07:02:20,100 --> 07:02:21,100
River Municipal Advisory

9962
07:02:21,100 --> 07:02:23,100
Council meeting. Moving on

9963
07:02:23,100 --> 07:02:24,100
to the week of the 16th.

9964
07:02:24,100 --> 07:02:26,100
On the 18th, I had a Bay Area

9965
07:02:26,100 --> 07:02:27,100
Air District Finance and

9966
07:02:27,100 --> 07:02:29,100
Administration Committee

9967
07:02:29,100 --> 07:02:30,100
meeting, as well as an

9968
07:02:30,100 --> 07:02:31,100
unincorporated governance ad

9969
07:02:31,100 --> 07:02:33,100
hoc meeting. And I believe that

9970
07:02:33,100 --> 07:02:35,100
concludes my reportable

9971
07:02:38,100 --> 07:02:40,100
meetings. Oh, Russian River

9972
07:02:40,100 --> 07:02:41,100
Management ad hoc meeting

9973
07:02:41,100 --> 07:02:43,100
yesterday the 23rd.

9974
07:02:45,100 --> 07:02:47,100
>> Supervisor Rabbitt.

9975
07:02:47,100 --> 07:02:48,100
>> All right.

9976
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>> Since last we met on

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Tuesday, March 10th. On that

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Wednesday, March 11th,

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I did attend Sonoma Waters

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Advocacy Day up in

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Sacramento, where we met

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with all of our state senators

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and assembly members and DWR

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and natural resources folks

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touting the work that we're

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doing here in Sonoma

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on water issues. I had

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to go back to Sacramento the

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next day on Thursday the 12th,

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to chair the Seismic Safety

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Commission meeting

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in the morning. Friday, March

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13, had ABAG administration and

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joint ledge with MTC.

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Wednesday, March 18, smart

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07:03:25,100 --> 07:03:27,100
meeting. Thursday, March 19,

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07:03:29,100 --> 07:03:31,100
back to Sacramento

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for the association of

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California Water Agencies

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07:03:37,100 --> 07:03:38,100
Leadership workshop. And then I

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07:03:38,100 --> 07:03:39,100
did spend the night because the

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07:03:39,100 --> 07:03:42,100
next morning we had our board

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07:03:42,100 --> 07:03:45,100
meeting for aqua. And then

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07:03:45,100 --> 07:03:47,100
Monday, because you can't get

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07:03:47,100 --> 07:03:49,100
enough aqua, had another board

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07:03:49,100 --> 07:03:50,100
meeting,

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07:03:50,100 --> 07:03:52,100
a closed session that was

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07:03:52,100 --> 07:03:55,601
for helping to select a new

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07:03:57,100 --> 07:03:59,100
executive director.

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07:03:59,100 --> 07:04:00,100
>> That's it.

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>> Thank you so much,

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Supervisor.

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07:04:04,100 --> 07:04:06,100
>> Let's see, going back to

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07:04:06,100 --> 07:04:07,100
March 12, the Santa Rosa

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07:04:07,100 --> 07:04:09,100
Plain Groundwater

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07:04:09,100 --> 07:04:11,100
Sustainability Agency board

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07:04:12,100 --> 07:04:15,100
meeting, measure O ad hoc

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07:04:15,100 --> 07:04:17,100
on the 16th, South Santa Rosa

10019
07:04:17,100 --> 07:04:19,100
annexation ad hoc

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07:04:20,100 --> 07:04:23,100
on the 17th, Smart board

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07:04:23,100 --> 07:04:25,100
on the 18th, Sonoma County

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07:04:25,100 --> 07:04:27,100
Employee Retirement association

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07:04:29,100 --> 07:04:31,100
board on the 19th, and an ad

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07:04:31,100 --> 07:04:32,100
hoc, a transit ad hoc meeting

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07:04:32,100 --> 07:04:33,100
of the Sonoma County

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07:04:33,100 --> 07:04:35,100
Transportation and climate

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07:04:36,100 --> 07:04:38,401
authorities on the 19th.

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07:04:39,100 --> 07:04:41,100
>> Thank you so much. And I

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07:04:41,100 --> 07:04:43,100
again attended with

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07:04:44,100 --> 07:04:46,100
Supervisor Hopkins the

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07:04:46,100 --> 07:04:48,100
immigration ad hoc on March 11

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07:04:48,100 --> 07:04:50,100
and March 17, the South Santa

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07:04:50,100 --> 07:04:53,100
Rosa annexation ad hoc meeting.

10034
07:04:53,100 --> 07:04:55,100
And with that, we are going

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07:04:55,100 --> 07:04:57,401
to adjourn our meeting

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07:05:00,100 --> 07:05:02,100
in honor of Marcus Zeimer and

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07:05:02,100 --> 07:05:04,100
Coric Brown.

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07:05:18,100 --> 07:05:20,100
>> Thank you.

10039
07:05:20,100 --> 07:05:21,100
>> And with that, our meeting

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07:05:21,100 --> 07:05:23,100
will be adjourned and our next

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07:05:23,100 --> 07:05:24,100
meeting will be on Tuesday,

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07:05:24,100 --> 07:05:25,100
April 7th.

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07:05:25,100 --> 07:05:26,000
>> Thank you.