1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,400 need to call us to order. Everyone, 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,880 welcome to the August Finance [snorts] 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,200 Committee meeting of the Sonoma County 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,760 Library Commission. And I see all of the 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,400 present commissioners received the color 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,000 memo. And we are colorcoordinated today. 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,760 So, you could tell who the commissioners 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,920 are. And um let's see if there's any 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,559 public comment. 10 00:00:32,559 --> 00:00:35,040 We saw there were no comments received 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,559 via email. And there are 12 00:00:38,559 --> 00:00:40,480 I believe no members of the public. Let 13 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:43,120 me double check. 14 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,320 Okay. 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:45,750 >> There are no members of the public. 16 00:00:45,750 --> 00:00:45,760 » There are no members of the public. 17 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,200 Commissioner Angbart is watching via 18 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:49,920 Zoom. 19 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,069 >> Right. Thank you. Well, let us let me 20 00:00:52,069 --> 00:00:52,079 » Right. Thank you. Well, let us let me 21 00:00:52,079 --> 00:00:53,440 call everybody to order here. 22 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,120 Commissioner Goldberg 23 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,990 >> here. Commissioner Polls. 24 00:00:57,990 --> 00:00:58,000 » here. Commissioner Polls. 25 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,320 Did we hear from Commissioner Polls? No, 26 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:01,760 we did not hear from her. And 27 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,920 Commissioner Taylor 28 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,189 >> here. 29 00:01:05,189 --> 00:01:05,199 » here. 30 00:01:05,199 --> 00:01:08,230 >> And very 31 00:01:08,230 --> 00:01:08,240 » And very 32 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,960 hearty greeting to Commissioner Taylor 33 00:01:10,960 --> 00:01:13,280 and Commissioner Goldberg for attending 34 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,439 the first Finance Committee meeting. We 35 00:01:15,439 --> 00:01:17,759 welcome you and are glad you're with us. 36 00:01:17,759 --> 00:01:20,640 Um, announcements. I have the same 37 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,159 announcement that I had at the last 38 00:01:22,159 --> 00:01:24,960 meeting which is my status as a 39 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:27,920 commissioner has not been confirmed. I'm 40 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,240 still hanging out here a little bit 41 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,320 hoping I can continue but as of now I am 42 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:37,840 acting under the direction of the city 43 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,880 to continue coming to meetings. Uh 44 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,840 public appearances we don't seem to have 45 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,159 anyone. Okay. Uh let's move into 46 00:01:46,159 --> 00:01:49,360 discussion item uh 4.1 finance committee 47 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,600 roles and responsibilities. I wanted to 48 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,439 take just a little bit of time since we 49 00:01:53,439 --> 00:01:55,840 have our actually majority of our 50 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,200 members today are brand new and talk 51 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,799 about what we really are supposed to be 52 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:02,640 doing in this committee because it isn't 53 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,960 always clear I think to to people what 54 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,520 we do. Um 55 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,560 to back up just a little bit, um this 56 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,440 this new library commission started 12 57 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,959 years ago in August of 2014. And at that 58 00:02:16,959 --> 00:02:19,680 point in time, prior to that, the 59 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,040 commissioners were appointed by the 60 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,319 Sonoma County uh supervisors. They each 61 00:02:24,319 --> 00:02:26,560 could name a commissioner and then the 62 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,000 city of Santa Rosa could name somebody 63 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,000 and city of Paloon can name somebody and 64 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,520 that was the library commission. 65 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,400 Starting in August of 2014, 66 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,480 all of this all the jurisdictions got a 67 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:37,840 representative. That was one of the 68 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,680 major changes that happened when this 69 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,519 JPA was redone. So, um I walked into the 70 00:02:43,519 --> 00:02:46,879 first meeting and commissioner uh Tim 71 00:02:46,879 --> 00:02:49,200 May from Pedaluma walked up to me and 72 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:50,400 said, "Would you be on the finance 73 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,840 committee?" And I said, "Sure." And then 74 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,760 I'm still I've been doing it all this 75 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,239 time. It was very informal. We didn't 76 00:02:56,239 --> 00:02:58,720 have any roles or responsibilities. We 77 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,920 were totally winging it. And um so just 78 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:04,800 over time this committee has uh you know 79 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,760 clarified its roles. We have great 80 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,599 leadership now that we didn't have then. 81 00:03:09,599 --> 00:03:14,000 We had a brand new CFO, a brand new CEO. 82 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,920 Both of them were new to the system. 83 00:03:15,920 --> 00:03:18,239 They have come and gone. And we have, 84 00:03:18,239 --> 00:03:20,000 you know, such a strong management team. 85 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,400 Now it's a a different day. So you're 86 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,000 you're walking into a a good well-run 87 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,760 um you know financial department of this 88 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,000 of the commission at this point in time. 89 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,000 So, just to talk a little bit about what 90 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,920 we do do, 91 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,840 we do um we review the reports that the 92 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,159 CFO prepares for us. And one of the 93 00:03:42,159 --> 00:03:43,599 important things I know there's been 94 00:03:43,599 --> 00:03:45,760 comments by commissioners. We don't know 95 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,120 how to read them. We don't understand 96 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:48,640 them. They're complicated and all that. 97 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,640 And I think all of us want to make a 98 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,799 concerted effort to make sure everybody 99 00:03:52,799 --> 00:03:55,920 can understand at least some basic part 100 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,760 of things so you can always, you know, 101 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,200 tell where we are. And we think all the 102 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:00,480 commissioners should be able to do that. 103 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,080 and hopefully that will come up at the 104 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,200 retreat and go over some of the basic um 105 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,400 basic reports that we do. Um we can have 106 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,080 no more than five commissioners as a 107 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,519 five as 11 member body. The five was a 108 00:04:13,519 --> 00:04:17,040 as a majority and um I believe uh a 109 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,759 fifth person has been named but we're 110 00:04:19,759 --> 00:04:22,960 holding back for now until the Hillsburg 111 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,199 commissioner gets seated. So, at the 112 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:26,960 next meeting, I will or will not be 113 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,160 there, and the new person will 114 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,000 presumably be there, and I believe it's 115 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,360 Commissioner Riley, is it not? Um, so 116 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,280 anyway, what we do besides review the 117 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:40,639 reports, um, the the chair of the of the 118 00:04:40,639 --> 00:04:42,960 commission may say, you know, I really 119 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,960 want you to look at something, you know, 120 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,560 some financial issue that's going on or 121 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,720 something. It's poorly understood by the 122 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,479 commission, whatever. So the the chair 123 00:04:52,479 --> 00:04:54,160 of the commission and this happens very 124 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,639 very rarely can ask us specifically to 125 00:04:56,639 --> 00:04:58,400 look at something that I can't even 126 00:04:58,400 --> 00:04:59,759 remember the last time that happened but 127 00:04:59,759 --> 00:05:01,600 that can happen based on our role and 128 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,759 responsibility. the full commission 129 00:05:03,759 --> 00:05:05,840 could say, you know, we don't understand 130 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:08,000 such and such. Let's take it back to 131 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,840 finance committee and let them hash it 132 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:13,039 over and then report to us. Or any of us 133 00:05:13,039 --> 00:05:14,560 can bring up something that we're 134 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,479 concerned about that we think would be a 135 00:05:16,479 --> 00:05:19,280 helpful topic to to look into. So, we 136 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:21,199 can also put something on the agenda and 137 00:05:21,199 --> 00:05:22,639 we'll have the opportunity to do that at 138 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:24,560 the end of the meeting. 139 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,720 Um we don't necessarily do anything with 140 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,720 all the stuff that we do but if the 141 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:33,280 commission chair or um or the the 142 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:35,360 commission or the or us ourselves we can 143 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,240 make recommendations you know if if on 144 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,479 upon request and so we you know we can 145 00:05:40,479 --> 00:05:42,400 do that. Um we also look at the 146 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,720 preliminary audit when the auditors go 147 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,479 through everything and we kind of go 148 00:05:46,479 --> 00:05:49,520 through line by line and you know make 149 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,160 all the comments and 150 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,880 you know edits and so forth that we 151 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,280 think are are appropriate. So, we do 152 00:05:57,280 --> 00:05:59,440 meet once a month and we have 153 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,199 traditionally met the entire time I've 154 00:06:01,199 --> 00:06:02,560 been on this always on Monday 155 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,960 afternoons. Recently, we changed the 156 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,680 time to Monday at 2 to accommodate 157 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,440 another uh uh meeting that Erica has. 158 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,639 And um so you know we were going to talk 159 00:06:14,639 --> 00:06:16,240 about changing this but we thought well 160 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,560 let's wait till whatever month it is 161 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,720 soon that everybody's here and then 162 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,639 we'll work around what what works best 163 00:06:22,639 --> 00:06:26,160 for you for everyone [clears throat] 164 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,400 and in this day and age we can 165 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,880 participate by teleconference. To me 166 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,319 it's always great to be here in this 167 00:06:32,319 --> 00:06:34,319 room if at all possible but Kim I know 168 00:06:34,319 --> 00:06:36,400 you have you know more commuting issues. 169 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,240 So uh to the extent possible we'll we'll 170 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,400 meet here continue to meet here. Um so 171 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,160 um the chair is supposed to be elected 172 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,560 uh in August. I saw it briefly on this 173 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,080 agenda and then it disappeared and 174 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,479 probably because of this issue of our 175 00:06:52,479 --> 00:06:54,720 our committee structure itself isn't 176 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,280 quite set. So that would probably be in 177 00:06:57,280 --> 00:07:01,440 September I'm assuming. Um so the the 178 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,840 chair and I was elected I think two 179 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:07,599 years ago and then reelected. Um, my my 180 00:07:07,599 --> 00:07:10,000 position is to work with MNA and with 181 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,759 Lisa on the the the agendas. Lisa's 182 00:07:13,759 --> 00:07:16,160 great about carrying over things that 183 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:17,919 she knows we need to talk about and then 184 00:07:17,919 --> 00:07:19,919 Mirina has her stuff and then I have my 185 00:07:19,919 --> 00:07:21,840 stuff and then we we work it out. 186 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,759 Usually the agendas aren't too terribly 187 00:07:23,759 --> 00:07:27,360 long. Um, and then I'm responsible for 188 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:28,960 leading the meeting. The vice chair 189 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,160 leads the meeting when um I'm pointing 190 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,240 this way. Lisa Tina is not actually the 191 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,720 vice chair, but whoever's sitting here. 192 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,360 Um, in my absence, the the vice chair 193 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,840 would would lead the meeting. 194 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,599 Um, the minutes come to the chair after 195 00:07:45,599 --> 00:07:49,280 Lisa writes them up for edits. We do 196 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,199 action minutes, which used to be 197 00:07:51,199 --> 00:07:53,120 frustrating to me because it didn't have 198 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,720 like all the stuff in them and I like 199 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,520 detail. So, we've kind of come to a 200 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,319 compromise and if there's some kind of 201 00:08:00,319 --> 00:08:02,960 meaty issue that needs a little detail, 202 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,199 I added quite a bit to our minutes the 203 00:08:05,199 --> 00:08:06,960 last time because we were talking about 204 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,960 the bond measure. I thought it would be 205 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,639 helpful to add to the minutes some of 206 00:08:10,639 --> 00:08:13,280 the detail that we had talked about, but 207 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,280 we don't do she said this and he said 208 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:16,639 that and they approved that and stuff 209 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:18,879 like that. So we try to keep them uh 210 00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:20,560 reasonably streamlined but at least 211 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,440 informational enough that that helps um 212 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:24,960 certainly the other commissioners to 213 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,879 read it and know what it is. So anyway 214 00:08:28,879 --> 00:08:30,720 then the then the minutes go out to all 215 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,240 the commissioners and then you can all 216 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,719 make you know comments and um and then 217 00:08:36,719 --> 00:08:38,800 it says here that I am to the chair is 218 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,640 to prepare and deliver a monthly report. 219 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,279 Usually that's the minutes but it could 220 00:08:43,279 --> 00:08:45,200 be something special if there was a 221 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,920 special topic. So anyway, uh way back 222 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,720 when early days when I was finance 223 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,440 committee chair, we had a problematic 224 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,560 committee member and we've constantly 225 00:08:56,560 --> 00:08:59,279 interrupted and wouldn't you know play 226 00:08:59,279 --> 00:09:01,920 by the organizational structure. So 227 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,320 anyway, we I added this got added which 228 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,480 is uh finance committee members are 229 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:07,920 appointed by the chair, committee 230 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,560 members may resign at their discretion. 231 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:12,640 Committee members may also be removed by 232 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,800 the chair in consultation with the chair 233 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,240 of the finance committee. the chair of 234 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,920 the commission can remove people who 235 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,760 aren't, you know, functioning or maybe 236 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,160 attending or or whatever reason, but 237 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,080 that's only happened once in 12 days 238 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,480 that I know about. Okay, great. Well, 239 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:27,839 any questions about the role and 240 00:09:27,839 --> 00:09:29,360 responsibilities? Anything that you 241 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,480 would you're not clear about either one 242 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,160 of you. 243 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,750 >> Just to thank you and I appreciate the 244 00:09:35,750 --> 00:09:35,760 » Just to thank you and I appreciate the 245 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,600 overview. It's very helpful. 246 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,590 >> You may hear it again next time if I'm 247 00:09:39,590 --> 00:09:39,600 » You may hear it again next time if I'm 248 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:40,880 still here and there's another new 249 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,320 person. I just think it's important to 250 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:43,600 know what we're doing, you know, what 251 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,519 we're supposed to be doing. So great. 252 00:09:45,519 --> 00:09:46,880 Well, thank you for your attention to 253 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,920 that. Um, moving on to the update on the 254 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,040 bond sale and would our CFO take the 255 00:09:53,040 --> 00:10:00,230 reigns on this one? I believe 256 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,200 » so. 257 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,440 Um, finally the culmination of the 258 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,480 search for 259 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,839 um, finally the culmination for the 260 00:10:13,839 --> 00:10:17,519 search and the financing of a new 261 00:10:17,519 --> 00:10:21,600 central operations center um, took one 262 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,160 of the largest milestones which was the 263 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,519 sale of the the revenue bond that 264 00:10:27,519 --> 00:10:31,120 happened on Thursday the 13th. it was 265 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,959 with very successful uh results. Um we 266 00:10:34,959 --> 00:10:39,120 wanted to give you an update today on uh 267 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,040 more details on what happened. Um 268 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,680 and first 269 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:48,160 why don't give you the this Oh, maybe 270 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,320 Bobby are you sharing your screen? Okay, 271 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,350 >> I am. Yeah. Uh could folks see the the 272 00:10:53,350 --> 00:10:53,360 » I am. Yeah. Uh could folks see the the 273 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,040 title slide? 274 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,710 >> Yes. So, Bobby from KN&N Municipal 275 00:10:58,710 --> 00:10:58,720 » Yes. So, Bobby from KN&N Municipal 276 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:03,360 Advisors is uh here to um give us an 277 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,839 overview, but we wanted to start off by 278 00:11:05,839 --> 00:11:09,440 letting you know that uh we there there 279 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:14,000 were uh very good um for our for our 280 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,120 purposes, good conditions in the market. 281 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,839 There were some um economic indicators 282 00:11:19,839 --> 00:11:23,279 that came in and uh did not shake 283 00:11:23,279 --> 00:11:26,959 anything up. So, it was uh good for us 284 00:11:26,959 --> 00:11:32,320 that week. Uh but prior to um the sale, 285 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:37,279 we were required to uh um request a 286 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:40,000 credit rating since this is the first 287 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,680 time that the library issued a bond. Of 288 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:44,800 course, we don't have any credit 289 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:50,640 history. And so um we presented um 290 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,240 director Tibiot and I presented to a 291 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,600 committee from standard and por's global 292 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:03,360 ratings team and um and had submitted 293 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:08,639 many documents to them. Uh they also uh 294 00:12:08,639 --> 00:12:11,440 sent us many questions in advance that 295 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,560 we prepared for and KN&N helped us 296 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:18,399 prepare a presentation of our financial 297 00:12:18,399 --> 00:12:23,200 condition profile of the uh Sonoma 298 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,560 County and specifically the library 299 00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:31,040 which uh all was uh wellreceived and as 300 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,680 a result standard and pores rated the 301 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:35,440 library 302 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,360 an AA plus. 303 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,949 >> Is that the highest you can get? Is 304 00:12:38,949 --> 00:12:38,959 » Is that the highest you can get? Is 305 00:12:38,959 --> 00:12:41,279 there any AAA or double plus or anything 306 00:12:41,279 --> 00:12:44,710 >> there? The AAA is the highest. Um, and 307 00:12:44,710 --> 00:12:44,720 » there? The AAA is the highest. Um, and 308 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,120 then there's probably a couple of others 309 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:51,200 in between the AA plus and the AAA. 310 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,870 >> Uh, double A plus is just below AAA. So, 311 00:12:54,870 --> 00:12:54,880 » Uh, double A plus is just below AAA. So, 312 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,360 it's AAA and then double A+. So, this is 313 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,670 a very very strong rating. 314 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:04,720 So I I I wanted to make sure uh the 315 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:09,600 finance committee knew that uh the one 316 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,839 of the major results of it of this was 317 00:13:13,839 --> 00:13:17,040 because of uh very strong uh fiscal 318 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,320 management of the organization. They 319 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,519 cited uh the policies, the financial 320 00:13:23,519 --> 00:13:26,480 policies of the fund balance, uh 321 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:31,120 proactive payment of the OPE liability, 322 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,440 the pension liability, 323 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:38,160 and um conservative budgeting. So, all 324 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:43,920 of those items um uh influenced that 325 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,920 double A+ rating. and wanted to thank uh 326 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:52,399 KN&N for uh their assistance in uh 327 00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:57,040 preparing all of this. And the the 328 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,519 rating is very important because it it 329 00:13:59,519 --> 00:14:03,440 is an an indicator to potential 330 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,440 investors of how um 331 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,040 creditw worthy we are um to pay back you 332 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,959 know any investment. Um and so therefore 333 00:14:14,959 --> 00:14:19,199 um uh wanted to to highlight that kudos 334 00:14:19,199 --> 00:14:22,399 to the the commission, the finance 335 00:14:22,399 --> 00:14:24,880 committee that's had led many of these 336 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:29,120 policies that contributed to this um 337 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,760 this uh stable outlook for us. 338 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,509 >> Um I'm going to add to that a little 339 00:14:33,509 --> 00:14:33,519 » Um I'm going to add to that a little 340 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:35,440 bit. Um, and one of the reasons why we 341 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,600 received this high rating wasn't just 342 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,360 because of our financial stability, but 343 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,000 all of those policies that the finance 344 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,800 committee um, helped guide us through, 345 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,800 including our allocation of revenue 346 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,720 sources, our fund balance policy, um, 347 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,040 our debt policy we passed. So, all of 348 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,839 those things actually helped contribute 349 00:14:55,839 --> 00:14:59,440 to our double A+ rating. So having that 350 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,480 secure policy base um was really helpful 351 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,440 and it will also be helpful in years to 352 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:06,639 come. You know we always have the 353 00:15:06,639 --> 00:15:10,160 opportunity to um refinance um in 10 354 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,040 years and maintaining a solid credit 355 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,560 rating will improve our ability to get 356 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,279 um better interest rates in 10 years. 357 00:15:19,279 --> 00:15:21,199 So, it's a good thing as long as we can 358 00:15:21,199 --> 00:15:23,279 kind of maintain this fiscal stability 359 00:15:23,279 --> 00:15:26,959 and uh fiscal um responsibility, it will 360 00:15:26,959 --> 00:15:31,030 it just bodess well for us. 361 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,120 » So, transitioning to the next slide, 362 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,360 which is the summary of competitive sale 363 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:41,440 pricing results, I will uh ask Bobby to 364 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,800 um step in and go over these next few 365 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,399 slides. 366 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:48,310 >> Great. Uh thank you, Mina. And uh good 367 00:15:48,310 --> 00:15:48,320 » Great. Uh thank you, Mina. And uh good 368 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,240 afternoon uh members of the finance 369 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,560 committee. Uh Bobby Chung from KN&N 370 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,320 public finance. Um yeah, as uh uh uh 371 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,959 just mentioned uh the double A+ credit 372 00:15:58,959 --> 00:16:02,079 rating really was a strength in the uh 373 00:16:02,079 --> 00:16:05,040 marketing of this uh transaction. Um 374 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,680 your bond sold via a competitive sale. 375 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,360 So um the entire universe of uh broker 376 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,720 dealer firms were invited uh uh to 377 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,440 participate uh in this transaction and 378 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,680 last Thursday uh uh we received nine 379 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,360 bids from the market um with uh the 380 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,240 winning bid being submitted by UBS 381 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,440 Financial Services uh at a true interest 382 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,920 cost of uh just about 4.04%. 383 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,759 And the true interest cost is a is a 384 00:16:37,759 --> 00:16:40,079 blended borrowing rate uh for each one 385 00:16:40,079 --> 00:16:43,360 of the uh the 30 years of uh uh bond 386 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,519 maturities that that were uh uh that 387 00:16:45,519 --> 00:16:49,279 were priced. Um and uh as uh as 388 00:16:49,279 --> 00:16:52,079 mentioned previously uh really the the 389 00:16:52,079 --> 00:16:55,040 the CPI and PPI figures that were 390 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,920 released uh in advance of that uh sale 391 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,240 date um contributed to a really strong 392 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,120 tone in the market. basically uh fears 393 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,400 of inflation were removed uh and it was 394 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,120 um uh a really good uh strong day. And 395 00:17:09,120 --> 00:17:11,679 so as you could see uh you know the UBS 396 00:17:11,679 --> 00:17:15,439 bid uh uh came in uh significantly lower 397 00:17:15,439 --> 00:17:17,439 uh than many of the other bids uh that 398 00:17:17,439 --> 00:17:20,079 were received uh on on on the day of 399 00:17:20,079 --> 00:17:21,839 sale. 400 00:17:21,839 --> 00:17:23,679 Uh 401 00:17:23,679 --> 00:17:26,480 the next slide uh is the final sources 402 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,559 and uses. Um uh total sources equals 403 00:17:30,559 --> 00:17:33,919 total uses. Here uh the transaction bar 404 00:17:33,919 --> 00:17:38,000 amount uh after factoring in um the 405 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,160 actual coupons and yields received from 406 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,000 UBS uh was finalized at $12.025 407 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,760 million. Uh as a function of the sale, 408 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,919 uh uh the library will be receiving 409 00:17:49,919 --> 00:17:52,240 about $400,000 410 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,880 uh in bond premium uh from the investors 411 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,320 who purchased uh uh these bonds um 412 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,799 totaling uh sources of 12.447. 413 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:06,400 Uh in terms of the uses, 12.18 million 414 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,880 will go towards the uh the acquisition. 415 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:13,280 Uh this of course uh uh um uh is in 416 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,760 addition to the $600,000 that the 417 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,480 library uh is um you know has already 418 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,799 committed uh in cash. Uh about $220 went 419 00:18:22,799 --> 00:18:24,799 towards paying cost of issuance and that 420 00:18:24,799 --> 00:18:28,320 covered our fee uh bond and disclosure 421 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,919 council, the credit rating, the trustee, 422 00:18:31,919 --> 00:18:35,600 the financial printer uh etc. 423 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,039 uh the underwriter discount uh 45,000 uh 424 00:18:39,039 --> 00:18:40,640 that uh that's the amount that went to 425 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,160 UBS uh for uh for winning the bid uh and 426 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,480 underwriting the bonds. And this 427 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,640 rounding amount is just because uh bonds 428 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,160 are issued in $5,000 increments. 429 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,160 Uh the transaction will close next 430 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:58,320 Thursday on August 27th. Um this is uh 431 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,320 uh the transaction has a final maturity 432 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,520 of October 1, 206 and the final true 433 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,039 interest cost was right around 4.04%. 434 00:19:07,039 --> 00:19:09,520 Uh this resulted in uh average annual 435 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:14,480 payments of uh about $712,000 436 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,640 uh per fiscal year and total payments of 437 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,039 about uh 21.69 438 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:24,000 million when factoring in both principal 439 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,720 uh and interest. 440 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,039 Uh so the next slide shows the the 441 00:19:29,039 --> 00:19:32,080 detailed uh breakout of principal and 442 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,280 interest. Um we we structured this to 443 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,840 generate level payments on a fiscal year 444 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,720 basis for the entire term uh except for 445 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,400 the current fiscal year which just has 446 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,799 an interest payment uh uh due in the 447 00:19:44,799 --> 00:19:49,280 spring of uh 2027. Um but yeah, no uh 448 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,840 you know this this result came in um you 449 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,520 know stronger than than we were 450 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,520 anticipating. Uh I think the last time I 451 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,600 I spoke before your your fuller 452 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,840 commission you know we were estimating 453 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,640 you know 750,000 per year uh you know 454 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,840 the borrowing rate uh as of that time um 455 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,400 we were estimating you know like 440 450 456 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,640 range and then the credit rating came in 457 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,960 stronger than anticipated uh and the 458 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,120 bond market conditions itself were were 459 00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:17,840 stronger uh um uh than we were 460 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,280 anticipating. So I think this is a 461 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,679 really good result. 462 00:20:21,679 --> 00:20:24,000 Um the next slide is uh just a couple of 463 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,799 next steps through the bond closing. Uh 464 00:20:26,799 --> 00:20:31,200 so um you know as we uh as we all know 465 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,720 uh the steps leading up to uh uh up to 466 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,840 uh the pricing um uh have occurred 467 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,720 already. Uh so we have locked in those 468 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,520 interest rates. Uh and over the course 469 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,159 of this week uh and through early next 470 00:20:46,159 --> 00:20:47,760 week, we'll be obtaining signatures 471 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,080 necessary for closing. Uh and then next 472 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,280 Thursday the 27th um uh the transaction 473 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,000 will officially close where UBS will 474 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,720 send money uh to our trustee uh and then 475 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,840 the trustee will send uh uh a transfer 476 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,559 to uh your account uh on on the day of 477 00:21:06,559 --> 00:21:09,600 closing. Uh so let me pause there see if 478 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,840 there are any questions uh before we 479 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,080 move on uh uh to the uh to the last 480 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,760 slide. 481 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,830 >> Any questions from commissioners? 482 00:21:19,830 --> 00:21:19,840 » Any questions from commissioners? 483 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,799 I have something I'd like to add. 484 00:21:22,799 --> 00:21:24,230 >> Yes. 485 00:21:24,230 --> 00:21:24,240 » Yes. 486 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,990 >> Um, so I know that when we were 487 00:21:25,990 --> 00:21:26,000 » Um, so I know that when we were 488 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,000 contemplating this purchase, one of the 489 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,440 things that we looked at was a 490 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,280 comparison of our lease costs versus uh 491 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,360 our debt service. And I can say with 492 00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:38,080 this new interest rate, uh, we will 493 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,159 surpass our lease costs in year four. 494 00:21:42,159 --> 00:21:45,440 So, we will um we will basically be 495 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,440 paying a little bit more for the next 496 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:52,159 four years, but we will be flat payments 497 00:21:52,159 --> 00:21:54,960 essentially um after um after that. And 498 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,600 so, it really is prudent that we made 499 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,640 this decision. 500 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,789 >> That's really great news. And I happen 501 00:22:02,789 --> 00:22:02,799 » That's really great news. And I happen 502 00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:04,640 to bring this from one of our early 503 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,880 discussions and it we're trying to see 504 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,640 which was a better deal. And there was 505 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,799 it did show that crossover at year six. 506 00:22:10,799 --> 00:22:12,559 What I had noticed and the reason I 507 00:22:12,559 --> 00:22:13,840 brought this was, you know, we're 508 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:18,789 talking about 764,762,000. 509 00:22:18,799 --> 00:22:20,720 Bobby mentioned a slightly lower number, 510 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,280 but I mean, you know, it's 50,000 a year 511 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,720 or something like that for 30 years, you 512 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,400 know, at least. So, it's saves us a lot 513 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,720 of money and that is due to the high 514 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,799 rating, right? We take it all back to 515 00:22:32,799 --> 00:22:35,440 being a great 516 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,240 greatly wellorganized functioning fiscal 517 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,200 organization. So anyway, uh I like 518 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,799 Bobby. I love the fact that you were 519 00:22:42,799 --> 00:22:46,080 kind of surprised. 520 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,270 >> Yeah, I am too. [laughter] 521 00:22:49,270 --> 00:22:49,280 » Yeah, I am too. [laughter] 522 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,270 >> You dealt with any similar kind of 523 00:22:51,270 --> 00:22:51,280 » You dealt with any similar kind of 524 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,520 public institution like us that 525 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,440 surprised you in such a way? 526 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,029 >> Yeah. Yeah. You know, of course, 527 00:22:57,029 --> 00:22:57,039 » Yeah. Yeah. You know, of course, 528 00:22:57,039 --> 00:22:58,880 sometimes it goes the other way, right? 529 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,760 Um uh there were uh um this was a very 530 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,159 good uh result in the credit rating uh 531 00:23:06,159 --> 00:23:07,919 and a very good tone in the bond market. 532 00:23:07,919 --> 00:23:10,640 So, uh, you really had those two things, 533 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,480 um, working for you. Um, so, yeah, it 534 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,400 it's just a testament to, you know, to 535 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,880 this committee's, uh, in particular, uh, 536 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,200 you know, prudent, um, financial 537 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,480 management. So, yeah. 538 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,750 >> So, there there's a little bit of a 539 00:23:25,750 --> 00:23:25,760 » So, there there's a little bit of a 540 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,200 lucky day aspect to this, too, given the 541 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,360 political climate and national political 542 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:32,640 climate. Is that what you were kind of 543 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,240 pointing out in your report? 544 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,710 >> A little bit. Yes. Right. Um the the 545 00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:36,720 » A little bit. Yes. Right. Um the the 546 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,480 double A plus credit ratings certainly 547 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,400 helped. Um but also uh we we did hit a 548 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,720 particularly stable 549 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,200 tone in the market. You know leading up 550 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,200 to to last Thursday there was about a 551 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,640 week and a half of stability. Um and uh 552 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,320 uh strength in the bond market. Um so 553 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,720 that uh uh that all uh came to to your 554 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,559 benefit. 555 00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:05,510 >> Great. The the fates were with us. Um, 556 00:24:05,510 --> 00:24:05,520 » Great. The the fates were with us. Um, 557 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,600 Bobby, my question would be, do you have 558 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,240 a continuing role? 559 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,350 >> We do. We do. Yeah. Um, and that's a 560 00:24:13,350 --> 00:24:13,360 » We do. We do. Yeah. Um, and that's a 561 00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:15,760 good transition actually. Uh, Mirina, 562 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,600 uh, why don't, uh, MNA walk through, uh, 563 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,279 this last slide and then and then I 564 00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:24,240 could talk a little bit about, um, our 565 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,230 continuing role. 566 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,440 So um as you know the closing is on 567 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,760 August 27th 568 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,320 and then at that time the trustee 569 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,320 computer share will distribute the bron 570 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,039 proceeds to the library as Bobby has 571 00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:44,400 mentioned. Um the library has then has 572 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,279 to turn that around and wire the funds 573 00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:52,400 to um Old Republic title uh so that um 574 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,640 we complete our transaction with the 575 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,919 seller and that's we should be doing 576 00:24:57,919 --> 00:25:00,960 that by early the first week of um 577 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,880 September. 578 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,400 Um the library will be establishing a 579 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:11,200 new um fund so that we can track these 580 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,520 proceeds and payments um separately from 581 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,960 all of our other funds. And our first 582 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:24,000 payment is due on April 2027. It will be 583 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,080 print um interest only at that time. But 584 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,240 then our second payment which is due in 585 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,400 October will include principal and 586 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,880 interest and it will be the first time 587 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,720 we see that 700,000 number. 588 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:43,200 And uh in terms of uh KN&N's role, uh 589 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,640 the library will be required to um 590 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,559 submit reports annually to the state and 591 00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:54,320 um and uh we'll need to we will be 592 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,880 receiving assistance from KN&N in 593 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,559 compliance with these reporting 594 00:25:58,559 --> 00:26:01,120 requirements. 595 00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:02,880 Did you want to add anything to that, 596 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,320 Bobby? 597 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,110 >> Um yeah, ju just on that last point. Um 598 00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:07,120 » Um yeah, ju just on that last point. Um 599 00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:09,760 uh again since uh since these bonds once 600 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,679 they close um you know they're they're 601 00:26:11,679 --> 00:26:13,840 publicly issued bonds. So the investors 602 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,720 who purchase your bonds initially uh you 603 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,000 know should they want to they they have 604 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,080 the flexibility to to trade them in the 605 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,640 secondary market. So uh it's important 606 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,520 that um uh uh the information uh remains 607 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,840 current for for bond holders. And so 608 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,360 there's a there's a continuing 609 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:34,799 disclosure requirement uh uh where where 610 00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:37,919 the library will uh on an annual basis 611 00:26:37,919 --> 00:26:41,440 uh basically present its uh uh its its 612 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,720 annual audit uh plus um I think two of 613 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,360 the tables in the preliminary um and 614 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:49,679 final official statement uh to the 615 00:26:49,679 --> 00:26:52,080 market and and that will help uh you 616 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,520 know keep investors um uh uh up to date 617 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,880 on on your credit. Um 618 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,880 uh yeah, the state of California through 619 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,080 the treasur's office has a annual debt 620 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,440 uh transparency report uh that basically 621 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,799 um where where you report the spend down 622 00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:13,600 of the your bond proceeds and also the 623 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,880 payown of your uh outstanding bonds. Um 624 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,919 that's an annual requirement. Um and uh 625 00:27:19,919 --> 00:27:22,720 yeah, we we do not disappear uh at uh 626 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,880 you know at at at time of the bond 627 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,440 closing. Um, you know, we're here to to 628 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,360 assist with the compliance of of these 629 00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:33,440 measures, uh, moving forward. 630 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,430 >> Thank you very much. Um, commissioners, 631 00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:35,440 » Thank you very much. Um, commissioners, 632 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,760 do you have any questions at this point? 633 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,559 Um, I would like to ask kind of a simple 634 00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:43,919 question, but to explain to the public, 635 00:27:43,919 --> 00:27:46,000 I I was at a forens library meeting this 636 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,640 morning. What is like a simple language 637 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,960 that we can use to explain what we have 638 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:55,120 just done as a library? 639 00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:56,080 you know it like 640 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,310 >> well uh I I'll start off and maybe Bobby 641 00:28:00,310 --> 00:28:00,320 » well uh I I'll start off and maybe Bobby 642 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,360 can elaborate. Essentially 643 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:10,159 uh we we are promising that um 644 00:28:10,159 --> 00:28:12,960 that the library because of its strong 645 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,320 property tax general fund revenues. we 646 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,480 are able to afford to pay back uh a loan 647 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,760 that we took from um you know a public 648 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,240 sale of bonds. 649 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,520 Is it something about when we have gone 650 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,080 out for you know that's something about 651 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,880 going out and issuing public bonds it 652 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,480 gets complicated when you try to explain 653 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,640 it because obviously KN&N and all the 654 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,080 people that involved in this I mean we 655 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,320 didn't do it but how do you how do you 656 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,000 kind of explain it to the public but you 657 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,480 know for the first time we are taking on 658 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,880 you know debt to buy a a headquarters an 659 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,919 operations building by by what me by 660 00:28:51,919 --> 00:28:53,919 what method 661 00:28:53,919 --> 00:28:56,070 >> um through a competitive bond sale. So, 662 00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:56,080 » um through a competitive bond sale. So, 663 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,159 as opposed to, you know, I think when 664 00:28:58,159 --> 00:28:59,600 most people think of bonds, they think 665 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,240 about those um those ballot measures, 666 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,240 you know, those bonds that are actually 667 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,279 pledges of additional taxes that people 668 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:10,240 will pay. So, this is not an additional 669 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,840 tax. Um they are not paying, you know, 670 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,600 taxpayers will not be paying any more 671 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,440 money to the library as a result of 672 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,159 this. This is an investor who has looked 673 00:29:20,159 --> 00:29:23,360 at our finances, who has learned, who 674 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,960 has decided that they [clears throat] 675 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,960 can make money on this investment and 676 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,200 they are lending us money in order to 677 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,440 make money, if that makes sense. and 678 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,360 they are looking at our balance sheets 679 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,039 and our fiscal policies and our 680 00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:40,480 financial stability and they're 681 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,520 basically they're taking a risk you know 682 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,320 um that uh that we will continue to be 683 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,320 fiscally stable and um and make 684 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,720 financial prudent financial decisions 685 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,919 but that risk is going to you know earn 686 00:29:55,919 --> 00:29:58,080 them money 687 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,000 if that makes sense. Do we call it 688 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,960 public bond sales? Is that right? 689 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:05,669 >> Correct. 690 00:30:05,669 --> 00:30:05,679 » Correct. 691 00:30:05,679 --> 00:30:07,909 >> Yes, that that's that's right. Yes. 692 00:30:07,909 --> 00:30:07,919 » Yes, that that's that's right. Yes. 693 00:30:07,919 --> 00:30:09,990 >> And so I think it is important though 694 00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:10,000 » And so I think it is important though 695 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,840 this point that we made earlier that 696 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,600 this is not that it saves us money that 697 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,159 in in within four years we'll be paying 698 00:30:18,159 --> 00:30:20,159 less by paying the interest on this than 699 00:30:20,159 --> 00:30:21,760 we would have been paying for a lease. I 700 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,440 think that's part of anyway I' I'd like 701 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,159 to boil it down at some point in time to 702 00:30:26,159 --> 00:30:30,960 uh you know the elevator paragraph or uh 703 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,320 yes Eve 704 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,440 said to people 705 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,950 >> uh Eve can you please push your 706 00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:38,960 » uh Eve can you please push your 707 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,269 >> this is what I have said that's short 708 00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:41,279 » this is what I have said that's short 709 00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:44,080 but it could be wrong so I want to put 710 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,919 it out there and find out if I got it 711 00:30:45,919 --> 00:30:49,600 right or wrong. So, I have said um cuz 712 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,320 somebody asked me I've said we have 713 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,919 floated a a public bond instead of going 714 00:30:55,919 --> 00:31:00,320 to a bank for a loan and they said is 715 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,159 that because with a public bond 716 00:31:04,159 --> 00:31:06,000 you are paying a lower interest rate and 717 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,279 I said yes and they said are you paying 718 00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:11,679 a lower interest rate because you're a 719 00:31:11,679 --> 00:31:14,799 public institution so the investors 720 00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:17,200 don't have so somebody doesn't have to 721 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,600 pay taxes on their dividends. And I 722 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,480 said, I don't know, but I think so. Is 723 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,399 that correct? Is that why we have a 724 00:31:24,399 --> 00:31:28,000 lower interest rate? That that's a 725 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,200 that's an excellent question. Um, first 726 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,360 of all, yes. The investors that have 727 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,799 loaned you money do not have to pay uh 728 00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:41,279 income tax on the interest that they 729 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:44,799 receive, federal income tax. A and if 730 00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:47,279 they live in California, uh state income 731 00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:49,440 tax as well. Um so then therefore 732 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,919 they're they are willing to to loan you 733 00:31:51,919 --> 00:31:56,159 money at a uh preferential uh or lower 734 00:31:56,159 --> 00:31:58,559 interest rate versus uh a private 735 00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:03,279 company um uh you know uh selling bonds. 736 00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:05,722 Um so that that's number one. Number 737 00:32:05,722 --> 00:32:08,240 [clears throat] two, you could always go 738 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,440 to a bank uh and a bank would lend you 739 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,039 money at a tax exempt rate. Uh but 740 00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:17,600 accessing the public bond market as we 741 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,159 did through a competitive sale um 742 00:32:20,159 --> 00:32:21,919 results 743 00:32:21,919 --> 00:32:24,399 generally in a lower interest rate than 744 00:32:24,399 --> 00:32:27,200 going directly to a bank. So, not only 745 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,480 is your rate tax exempt, 746 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,840 but also it's a public bond sale and 747 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,799 lower than if you went to just a a a 748 00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:39,440 like a commercial bank like a Beimo or 749 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,200 or or JP Morgan uh uh for a uh for a 750 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,029 direct loan. 751 00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:49,360 » So, it's both. 752 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,470 >> Thanks. 753 00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:50,480 » Thanks. 754 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,389 >> Yeah. 755 00:32:52,389 --> 00:32:52,399 » Yeah. 756 00:32:52,399 --> 00:32:53,750 >> Great. 757 00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:53,760 » Great. 758 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,120 I think we're all feeling very 759 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,799 celebratory. 760 00:32:56,799 --> 00:33:00,399 I certainly am. So, um, any other 761 00:33:00,399 --> 00:33:01,840 questions? Anything else you'd like to 762 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:06,559 say to us, Bobby, before we wrap up the 763 00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:09,269 >> No, congratulations. We were uh uh very 764 00:33:09,269 --> 00:33:09,279 » No, congratulations. We were uh uh very 765 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:10,480 pleased with the result and we look 766 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,960 forward to the to the closing uh next 767 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,200 Thursday. Well, from everything I've 768 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,200 heard, you've been great to work with 769 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,919 and um really appreciate every all your 770 00:33:19,919 --> 00:33:22,240 efforts and clarifying everything to us 771 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,320 and walking us through a brand new 772 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,559 thing. So, thanks very much. 773 00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:29,029 >> Appreciate it. Thank you. 774 00:33:29,029 --> 00:33:29,039 » Appreciate it. Thank you. 775 00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:30,950 >> Bobby. 776 00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:30,960 » Bobby. 777 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,870 >> All right. See you later. 778 00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:32,880 » All right. See you later. 779 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,269 >> All right. Thank you. 780 00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:35,279 » All right. Thank you. 781 00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:38,310 >> Bye. 782 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,120 » He's very calming, doesn't he? It feels 783 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,960 like it's all under control with Bobby. 784 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,360 Jo's got it. It's really good. Mirina, 785 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,360 did you want to add anything or or Erica 786 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,240 to our this discussion 787 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,240 before we move forward? 788 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,590 >> This this is a major milestone for for 789 00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:55,600 » This this is a major milestone for for 790 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,760 the library. I I believe that um you 791 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,080 know the the sales tax measures have 792 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,440 allowed us to and have propelled us to 793 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,839 this point and the library continues to 794 00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:14,639 mature in meaning that um these policies 795 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:18,000 that are in place um 796 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:23,599 uh are an important factor in 797 00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:26,320 establishing controls and expectations. 798 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,760 ations and transparency on how we manage 799 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:35,119 our affairs and um so the work of this 800 00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:37,040 committee has been really instrumental 801 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:44,240 in that. Um having a full staff in um uh 802 00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:46,800 in our in our accounting working with 803 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,639 the county uh partners uh have made a 804 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:52,960 very big difference. We've had clean 805 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:58,000 audits um and uh so I think all of that 806 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,480 is um is moving us in the right 807 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,119 direction. But my point is that the 808 00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:07,760 library continues to with the more 809 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,880 uh revenues 810 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,200 um and the greater expenditures that we 811 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,440 have uh this the organization is uh 812 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:22,160 becoming more complex and um 813 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,640 and more mature and uh has been able to 814 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,920 utilize the tools that are set for us in 815 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,560 the joint powers. agreement 816 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,599 and uh and so this is this had never 817 00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:38,240 been exercised before, but we are 818 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:40,960 utilizing it and and it was there for a 819 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,800 reason um to continue to provide very 820 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,599 good services for for um our residents. 821 00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:52,560 And uh I'd like to say that working with 822 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,680 uh director Tibbo is uh pretty amazing. 823 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,480 she d, you know, she's jumps right in. 824 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,720 Um, and uh and and and we work really 825 00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:06,720 well together and really appreciate um 826 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:11,520 her her her uh inquisitiveness and and 827 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,119 uh also vision for um for this 828 00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:17,040 organization. So, thank you. 829 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,470 >> Well, I I couldn't have done it without 830 00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:18,480 » Well, I I couldn't have done it without 831 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,079 Mirat. 832 00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:22,550 >> Absolutely not. and uh you know and also 833 00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:22,560 » Absolutely not. and uh you know and also 834 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,880 having these adviserss you know really 835 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,480 walk us through the process. It was 836 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,880 enormously helpful. Um we could not have 837 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,280 done it um by ourselves. It was just an 838 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,599 enormous task. And of course the um 839 00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:36,000 accounting staff was also incredibly 840 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,480 helpful and having them uh to support 841 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,119 her. And you know we probably and poor 842 00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:43,280 Lisa you know um our last couple 843 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,599 commission meeting packets have been you 844 00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:47,599 know down to the wire and I don't really 845 00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:49,760 like to operate that way. Um, but it has 846 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,320 really been because this purchase and 847 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,880 the bond sale has eaten up a lot of 848 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,680 time. Um, but you know, I'm very I'm 849 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,520 hopeful that after this we can go back 850 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,320 to our our regularly scheduled 851 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,640 commission packets. 852 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,880 So, thank you, Lisa. 853 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:07,750 >> Thanks. 854 00:37:07,750 --> 00:37:07,760 » Thanks. 855 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,230 >> You're welcome. 856 00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:10,240 » You're welcome. 857 00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:11,750 >> Well, I'm going to allow myself a couple 858 00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:11,760 » Well, I'm going to allow myself a couple 859 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,400 of minutes here because 860 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,119 um I I I realize I'm really the last of 861 00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:19,280 the old guard. there's no commissioner 862 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,079 has been on as long and and the 863 00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:24,000 management hasn't been on as long and so 864 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,240 forth and just to give everybody just a 865 00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:28,880 dose of perspective when again you know 866 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,280 I love your word mirror about this 867 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,000 organization maturing is a perfect word 868 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,720 and evolving and adding and you know 869 00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:39,599 building um because 12 years ago when 870 00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:42,640 the new JPA started we were operating on 871 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,040 a shoestring we had only the property 872 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,440 tax I believe it was 15 million it was 873 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,880 something like the budget was about that 874 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,440 and you know 12 years later we're at 50. 875 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,400 Um it was open the library is open 40 uh 876 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,960 40 hours a week 5 days a week closed 877 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,400 Sunday and Monday there was just the it 878 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,000 was keeping the lights on the friends 879 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,320 were buying most of the books. I mean it 880 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,760 was a very very desperate situation and 881 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,400 right before the new JPA kicked in at 882 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,920 that time again I like to point out that 883 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,240 Jamie Anderson and David Dodd were 884 00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:17,359 co-inter directors. I mean everything 885 00:38:17,359 --> 00:38:22,000 was just so patched together and um so 886 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,839 those brand new CFOs brand new CEO um 887 00:38:25,839 --> 00:38:27,440 the brand new commission I mean 888 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,040 everything was just you know new and 889 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,920 green and and shaky and you know just 890 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,079 trying to to build an organization from 891 00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:36,320 whatever there was a fund balance policy 892 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,640 but it wasn't very complete and we 893 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,920 started working on that right away um 894 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,119 the OPED I'm very proud of because I was 895 00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:47,200 part of that And we had we went out and 896 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,280 got I got Darren Jenkins who was our 897 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,520 city manager at the time to be on a 898 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,119 subcommittee and there were two other 899 00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:55,680 pension experts who joined us and 900 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,040 created this you know policy just out of 901 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,920 whole cloth once we once we got the t 902 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,760 first tax measure passed when we got 903 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,359 measure Y passed and so then there was 904 00:39:05,359 --> 00:39:08,800 money. Um the the Kalpers thing is just 905 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,119 brand new right off just we just voted 906 00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:12,960 on that as a commission and that was the 907 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,880 other thing and I know Andy was really 908 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,040 very essential in that something that 909 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,079 there's two big unfunded liabilities and 910 00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:22,640 we taken care of both of them. I mean 911 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,960 it's really astonishing. Andy is 912 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,560 somebody who's pointed out not long ago 913 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,240 that we don't often reflect on our 914 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:30,720 successes enough. And part of it I think 915 00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:33,040 is uh losing the perspective and if 916 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,040 anything I can bring perspective because 917 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,359 you've lived through this whole thing 918 00:39:37,359 --> 00:39:40,160 and uh the the difference in having 919 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,680 committed 920 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,800 permanent feeling management is just 921 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,480 makes all the difference in the world. 922 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,800 You two are a tremendous team. you've 923 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,040 just we feel solid and of course Dara 924 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,760 adds her expertise you know as a as a 925 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,960 assistant director and um it's just it 926 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,880 feels so good to be you know so secure 927 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,440 in in what we're doing and not fly by 928 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,839 night like it did for a long long time. 929 00:40:05,839 --> 00:40:08,640 So I applaud everybody who uh has added 930 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,640 to the maturity and the development and 931 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,560 so forth and it's you know it takes a 932 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,240 village and all that takes everybody and 933 00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:16,720 their own talents and skills. So um 934 00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:19,280 anyway much much much to be proud of for 935 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,079 as a system and as all of us who are 936 00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:24,480 currently participating as well. So 937 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,720 anyway thank you. I I had to indulge in 938 00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:29,119 a little 939 00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:32,880 reflection. So on that um so we did the 940 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,720 update on the bond sale. Let's move on 941 00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:39,280 to 4.3 the 26year end on audited 942 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:57,829 financials and back to our CFO for that. 943 00:40:57,839 --> 00:41:00,000 I want to bring up the the detail. I'd 944 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:06,950 rather show this 945 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,200 the summary. 946 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,119 I don't know if you can make it bigger. 947 00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:16,870 Probably 948 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,560 make it a little bigger. If the yellow 949 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,920 comes off, that's fine. 950 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:31,589 Let's see. 951 00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:33,280 Okay, 952 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,079 little one. 953 00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:40,560 Um, okay. So, good afternoon. This is 954 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:45,520 our annual unawudited year-end uh report 955 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,800 that shows um financials through June 956 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,079 30th, 2026. We're in August. The month 957 00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:55,040 of July is a dual period, what we call a 958 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,920 dual period. We're working in the new 959 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,800 fiscal year as of July 1, but uh we work 960 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,359 with the county's timeline and their 961 00:42:05,359 --> 00:42:10,640 financial system. So we are um we work 962 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,720 with their timeline in terms of closing 963 00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:17,040 the year end. So there are transactions 964 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,319 that are happening uh for last fiscal 965 00:42:20,319 --> 00:42:22,160 year although it was closed on June 966 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,359 30th. There are transactions that have 967 00:42:25,359 --> 00:42:28,079 late invoices that that are that come in 968 00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:31,520 after you know July third I mean June 969 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:37,200 30th. um any um journals that we have to 970 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,359 make, you know, moving funds from, you 971 00:42:39,359 --> 00:42:43,920 know, uh our friends donations into, you 972 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,760 know, property tax or sales tax as 973 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,400 reimbursements, closing up and wrapping 974 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,079 up our grants. All of those LA uh year 975 00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:55,839 end um activities are taking place in 976 00:42:55,839 --> 00:42:59,200 July and they we're given about three 977 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,200 weeks or so uh to close up and then the 978 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,359 system is closed for June 30th and um 979 00:43:07,359 --> 00:43:10,079 and then we get we we get our financials 980 00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:13,280 that you're seeing in front of you. So, 981 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,040 and staff is working very quickly and 982 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,520 busily um in the month of July because 983 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,160 we're working in two fiscal years. 984 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,000 Um 985 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,640 so, having said that, uh I wanted to um 986 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,160 say that we're in a uh steady uh 987 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,200 financial position. Uh so as we're going 988 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,319 into strongly into this new fiscal year 989 00:43:38,319 --> 00:43:40,480 2627 990 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,560 and um the f the the the 991 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,319 first look at this are the budget versus 992 00:43:48,319 --> 00:43:51,119 actuals. The budget that you see in 993 00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:53,200 green in the green column is the 994 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,560 adjusted budget. This is our sum summary 995 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,750 page 996 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,760 and uh and then you have all the 997 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,760 recordings for every month of the fiscal 998 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,440 year 999 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,760 and uh we have as everyone know knows uh 1000 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:19,359 we do have financials for every month um 1001 00:44:19,359 --> 00:44:21,760 and now we're looking at June and the 1002 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,560 reason why we have estimated in June 1003 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,400 is that we may still encounter some 1004 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,400 budget adjustments 1005 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:35,680 uh in particular uh around um revenues 1006 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:40,560 in terms of our sales tax and in our 1007 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,359 expenditures around capital. 1008 00:44:43,359 --> 00:44:47,359 So um 1009 00:44:47,359 --> 00:44:50,640 the reason why revenues are estimated 1010 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,960 under sales tax is that sale we receive 1011 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,480 our sales tax receipts two months after. 1012 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,280 So as you can see here the July month is 1013 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,839 is uh July and August are blank because 1014 00:45:05,839 --> 00:45:09,920 we don't receive um the July 1015 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,480 receipts until September. So we record 1016 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,760 them in September. So therefore if we 1017 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,040 follow that logic uh the June the May 1018 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,800 receipts are received in July and the 1019 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,880 June receipts are received in August 1020 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,480 that we're still waiting for. Um but we 1021 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,240 do an estimate. We average the uh April 1022 00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:36,319 and May receipts and and we plug in uh a 1023 00:45:36,319 --> 00:45:41,760 figure. We do up them um update them to 1024 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,160 the true receipts through budget 1025 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,760 adjustments in August and um eventually 1026 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,560 we do have an opportunity to ref do 1027 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,000 those updates also in the system. 1028 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,160 Um 1029 00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:01,680 so the actual revenues total were 49.07 1030 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,200 million 1031 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,040 uh which is 1.09 09 million greater than 1032 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,920 the approved budget. 1033 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,680 Um, 1034 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,720 and under a, and I'll get into more 1035 00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:16,960 detail, but this is just the high level. 1036 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,680 Under actual operating re operating 1037 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,280 expenditures, 1038 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,680 operating expenditures are all of their 1039 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,560 expenditures, salaries, and services and 1040 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,040 supplies. 1041 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,160 Um, and it excludes capital. 1042 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,550 >> Were you in the yellow? We're doing the 1043 00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:34,560 » Were you in the yellow? We're doing the 1044 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,440 yellow or you still doing the green 1045 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,430 >> the green the yellow is last year the 1046 00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:41,440 » the green the yellow is last year the 1047 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,400 prior year. 1048 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:43,910 >> Oh 1049 00:46:43,910 --> 00:46:43,920 » Oh 1050 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,160 she is 1051 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:52,069 okay. 1052 00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:53,520 » Thank you. 1053 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,800 Okay. So 1054 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:02,319 in terms of uh Yes. So actuals are um 1055 00:47:02,319 --> 00:47:06,870 what I'm looking at are 1056 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,680 the unodudited actual actuals yearto 1057 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,800 date plus incumbrances 1058 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,440 and um can you scoot that over a little 1059 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:20,230 bit? 1060 00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:24,720 » Okay. So we don't encumber revenues. So 1061 00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:28,480 you see blanks there. And so again our 1062 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,520 total revenues is 49.07 1063 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:36,240 million which is 1 million greater than 1064 00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:38,560 the budget which and the budget is in 1065 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:53,589 the green. 1066 00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:56,800 Um then I have total expenditures which 1067 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,640 does include our capital that is the 1068 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,240 total expenditures are 50.71 million 1069 00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:07,920 which are approximately also 1.58 1070 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,599 million less than the approved budget. 1071 00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:14,960 So we're spending less than we budgeted. 1072 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,359 What we call a savings. 1073 00:48:17,359 --> 00:48:19,119 Oh, we have more revenues than we 1074 00:48:19,119 --> 00:48:22,079 budgeted and also we are spending less 1075 00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:24,880 than we budgeted. Yes. 1076 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,640 Um then you could also now this is this 1077 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,760 what I just explained was from the left 1078 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,319 to the right. My next uh item is from 1079 00:48:36,319 --> 00:48:39,359 the top to the bottom. You can see that 1080 00:48:39,359 --> 00:48:44,160 our revenues were 49 million 1081 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,440 with the total 1082 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,960 cap with capital expenditures of 50.7 1083 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,559 million 1084 00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:54,720 our revenues 1085 00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:57,520 our expenditures are greater than our 1086 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,800 revenues but that has was planned for 1087 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,160 and the reason is that what is bringing 1088 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,680 us up above our revenue are there a 1089 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,480 capital expenditures and as we know we 1090 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,160 use our fund balance for for that and 1091 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,000 right here what we're showing is our 1092 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,160 operating revenue that comes in 1093 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,640 annually. 1094 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:20,880 Okay, 1095 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,990 >> that was so that was planned for. 1096 00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:24,000 » that was so that was planned for. 1097 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,950 >> And when you say fund balance 1098 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,319 as opposed to unassigned fund balance, 1099 00:49:32,319 --> 00:49:34,319 are you saying that those capital 1100 00:49:34,319 --> 00:49:36,800 expenditures were already 1101 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,200 put aside? 1102 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,520 Nothing to do with the unassigned. 1103 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:42,309 >> Correct. 1104 00:49:42,309 --> 00:49:42,319 » Correct. 1105 00:49:42,319 --> 00:49:43,589 >> Okay, 1106 00:49:43,589 --> 00:49:43,599 » Okay, 1107 00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:45,109 >> I'm going to interject just a quick 1108 00:49:45,109 --> 00:49:45,119 » I'm going to interject just a quick 1109 00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:47,359 point. One of the reports I wanted to 1110 00:49:47,359 --> 00:49:50,079 start off our training with was the fund 1111 00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:52,880 balance reports, but they're not 1112 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,040 finalized yet, but it really helps you. 1113 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,839 You can see the property tax and the 1114 00:49:57,839 --> 00:49:59,520 sales tax and you can see the money put 1115 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,839 aside for all the stuff and it just it 1116 00:50:01,839 --> 00:50:03,280 really will help and we'll have that 1117 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,680 next in September 1118 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,440 so you can look at that. But it'll help 1119 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,720 you. Yeah, responsible being on a 1120 00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:12,800 committee that I better really 1121 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,119 understand things when I haven't really, 1122 00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:18,559 you know, I sort of semi okay, you know, 1123 00:50:18,559 --> 00:50:21,599 maybe find 1124 00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:22,480 this stuff now. 1125 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,109 >> I'm available at any time uh you have 1126 00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:25,119 » I'm available at any time uh you have 1127 00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:27,599 any questions um if you'd like to sit 1128 00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:30,720 down and go over these reports. 1129 00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:36,000 Okay. So in terms of um 1130 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,240 revenue details um I already mentioned 1131 00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:43,040 the high level just to drill down into 1132 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,319 property tax. Property tax receipts were 1133 00:50:46,319 --> 00:50:48,960 a total of 30.28 1134 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,480 million 1135 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,800 right there. 1136 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:57,520 um which is approximately 267 less than 1137 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,880 the approved adjusted budget. Uh what 1138 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,839 we're seeing and experiencing is that 1139 00:51:03,839 --> 00:51:05,839 properties are still staying on the 1140 00:51:05,839 --> 00:51:10,240 market longer and um and also affecting 1141 00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:12,480 the number of sales. People are still 1142 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,800 it's just the market has slowed down a 1143 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,640 little bit. 1144 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,160 Um 1145 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,720 the under sales tax the estimated 1146 00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:23,119 receipts are 15.61 1147 00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:28,640 million. Uh it's $34,000 1148 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,480 greater than the approved but again 1149 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,200 that's estimated. We will true these up 1150 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,520 or update to actuals. um 1151 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,720 the later this month when we receive uh 1152 00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:44,400 those those August figures. 1153 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,800 Other revenue 1154 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,800 receipts is a combination of revenues 1155 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,119 such as interest earned on our cash 1156 00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:52,640 balances, 1157 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,920 other um other jurisdictional or 1158 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,240 intergovernmental sources which includes 1159 00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:00,800 grants and donations. 1160 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:07,200 Um and that is a total of 1 3.17 1161 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,480 million which is 1.32 million greater 1162 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,119 than the approved budget 1163 00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:18,079 and primarily the reason is um the two 1164 00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:22,800 reasons um is the 1165 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,480 we did receive um we we've done a lot of 1166 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,480 work are we completed the work with at 1167 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,880 HNG 1168 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:35,359 Um, we should be are we um Sarah would 1169 00:52:35,359 --> 00:52:36,559 know. Yeah. 1170 00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:38,950 >> Yeah. I haven't had an update on that uh 1171 00:52:38,950 --> 00:52:38,960 » Yeah. I haven't had an update on that uh 1172 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,200 in at least two weeks, but the last I 1173 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,800 heard the HVAC was still being finished. 1174 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:45,829 >> Okay. 1175 00:52:45,829 --> 00:52:45,839 » Okay. 1176 00:52:45,839 --> 00:52:50,480 So um the li since the library owns the 1177 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,960 HNG building behind central library the 1178 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,440 library applied directly to the state 1179 00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,920 for the building forward grant. It's a 1180 00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:03,760 capital grant. Um and in other cases 1181 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,160 where we re where we worked with the 1182 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,119 cities they applied the city applied 1183 00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:11,359 directly for that grant because they're 1184 00:53:11,359 --> 00:53:14,079 the owners. They own those buildings. 1185 00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:15,920 But in this case, the library owns the 1186 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:21,359 H&G building and um and and it's a 1187 00:53:21,359 --> 00:53:24,160 reimbursement. So as the library spends 1188 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,359 the funds, we can then draw down the the 1189 00:53:27,359 --> 00:53:29,839 funding from on a reimbursement basis 1190 00:53:29,839 --> 00:53:32,240 from this from the state. And so this 1191 00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:35,040 year we received $900,000 1192 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,800 um from those grant funds. 1193 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,800 Um, 1194 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,160 and also, 1195 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,559 uh, interest earned on our pulled cash 1196 00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:50,240 was $200,000 greater than anticipated as 1197 00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:53,119 well. The markets are doing well. Um, 1198 00:53:53,119 --> 00:53:55,520 and therefore, we're we're experiencing 1199 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,440 that. Also, we receive PEG funds from 1200 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:04,079 the city of Santa Rosa. Those are 1201 00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:08,800 funds that um are received because of uh 1202 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:13,040 the city's relationship with um 1203 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,000 contracts and agreements and they're 1204 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,480 called right use of rights with Comcast 1205 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,400 for example. Um and so you can use these 1206 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,040 funds for 1207 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,640 education 1208 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:33,760 and um yeah educational reasons and the 1209 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,440 city has provided some of those funds to 1210 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,440 the library and the library uses them at 1211 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,079 um the libraries that are located within 1212 00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:47,920 Santa City of Santa Rosa. They include 1213 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,640 um studios, recording studios, cameras. 1214 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,160 There's uh definitely one at Central and 1215 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,920 I just saw the one at at Rinkan Valley. 1216 00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:02,480 Uh amazing resource. [snorts] 1217 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,920 Um so some of those funds came in in 1218 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,240 August, so we'll need to update our 1219 00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:12,400 revenues, but um uh that is recorded in 1220 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:17,119 other revenue. Um 1221 00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:19,119 and so what's all what else is in other 1222 00:55:19,119 --> 00:55:22,400 revenue is a combination of donations 1223 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,680 um you know our photo copies 1224 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,800 um we do have a heavy use of photo 1225 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,240 copies um here at the library and people 1226 00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:36,160 are using them because they get $5 a day 1227 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,440 plus they they spend more and I if you 1228 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,480 we've um the commission approved a rate 1229 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,599 increase And even at that rate, it's 1230 00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:47,280 still 1231 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,000 a better rate than in, you know, FedEx 1232 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,799 or some Staples. 1233 00:55:52,799 --> 00:55:55,599 Um, and we also do community room 1234 00:55:55,599 --> 00:56:00,160 rentals and, uh, patrons pay the library 1235 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:05,589 for any damaged or lost materials. 1236 00:56:05,599 --> 00:56:10,230 Any questions on revenue? 1237 00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:13,040 about the whole report just the revenue 1238 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,760 piece. 1239 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,109 >> I had one about the that same uh row 1240 00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:19,119 » I had one about the that same uh row 1241 00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:21,359 with the interest income for September 1242 00:56:21,359 --> 00:56:24,400 and February. It shows it as negative. 1243 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:25,359 How does that happen? 1244 00:56:25,359 --> 00:56:28,230 >> Oh, it's a zero. It's it's zero. It's 1245 00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:28,240 » Oh, it's a zero. It's it's zero. It's 1246 00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:31,760 blank. Um interest is posted quarterly. 1247 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,599 So, 1248 00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:36,319 the quarter ends at the end of 1249 00:56:36,319 --> 00:56:39,040 September, so it's posted in October. 1250 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:43,510 >> Thank you. so on and so forth. Yeah. 1251 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,799 Okay. I'll move into the expenditures 1252 00:56:46,799 --> 00:56:50,319 which is the latter half of this page. 1253 00:56:50,319 --> 00:56:54,160 And again we have the budgeted uh 1254 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,599 expenditures here in the green. We have 1255 00:56:57,599 --> 00:57:02,799 our unodudited yeartoate those. So this 1256 00:57:02,799 --> 00:57:05,920 column here are actuals. what actually 1257 00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,520 was spent and money out the door. We 1258 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,079 also have this column of encumbrances 1259 00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:16,880 which is new this year. It is a way for 1260 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,799 further budget control and planning for 1261 00:57:20,799 --> 00:57:23,040 the library. 1262 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:27,839 Um, Katherine was uh instrumental in 1263 00:57:27,839 --> 00:57:32,240 working with the county to uh 1264 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,200 give us the the the authority to use the 1265 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,359 encumbrance module in our financial 1266 00:57:37,359 --> 00:57:38,880 system. 1267 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,520 Um so I will tell you for example here 1268 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,960 um I would say 1269 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:51,510 so we know that in 1270 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,880 let's see we start with other contract 1271 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,880 services we've spent 79 1272 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,720 791,000 approximately actuals plus we 1273 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,319 have encumbered or set aside 1274 00:58:06,319 --> 00:58:09,119 $38,000 1275 00:58:09,119 --> 00:58:11,359 for a to if when you add those two up 1276 00:58:11,359 --> 00:58:13,599 you have 830,000. 1277 00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:16,079 What does this encumbrance rep 1278 00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:17,599 represent? 1279 00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:20,720 are we may have contract. We when we 1280 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,480 receive a contract and let's say the 1281 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,359 contract is $100,000, but we know we're 1282 00:58:25,359 --> 00:58:28,319 only going to we plan on spending that 1283 00:58:28,319 --> 00:58:30,720 amount, but 1284 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,359 out of all the contracts that we have, 1285 00:58:33,359 --> 00:58:38,720 we did not spend the full um the full 1286 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,200 amount on those contracts, but we know 1287 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,160 that we're on the hook for them. And the 1288 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:48,000 encumbrance allows us to roll that those 1289 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,000 funds over to the next fiscal year 1290 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,920 because we know we're going to pay from 1291 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:53,599 in those contracts. 1292 00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:55,270 >> What's an example of that? When there's 1293 00:58:55,270 --> 00:58:55,280 » What's an example of that? When there's 1294 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:59,680 a contract, you don't use it all, 1295 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,640 but then you have to use it. 1296 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,309 >> So I can give an example. So for 1297 00:59:04,309 --> 00:59:04,319 » So I can give an example. So for 1298 00:59:04,319 --> 00:59:07,520 example, we have this FFN contract with 1299 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,599 uh Jason Architecture for the new 1300 00:59:09,599 --> 00:59:12,319 Rosland library. So we opened that 1301 00:59:12,319 --> 00:59:15,359 contract in pre in the previous fiscal 1302 00:59:15,359 --> 00:59:18,799 year but um you know one payment was 1303 00:59:18,799 --> 00:59:21,839 made in 2526 but most of it is going to 1304 00:59:21,839 --> 00:59:25,520 be made in 2627. So we encumber the 1305 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,559 total amount which is about $44,000 1306 00:59:28,559 --> 00:59:30,640 in the previous fiscal year but we only 1307 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,200 spent say 12,000 that means we carry 1308 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,599 over the balance into the next fiscal 1309 00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:40,789 year. 1310 00:59:40,799 --> 00:59:45,280 Um okay. So and then we have other the 1311 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:49,440 other um large item here and I think I 1312 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:53,760 have that uh explained. Um so for 1313 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,520 example 1314 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,920 uh oh 1315 00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:01,680 yeah 1316 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,160 those are those are also like a 1317 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:08,960 professional development um funds. the 1318 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:13,599 in the labor memorandum of understanding 1319 01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:16,240 employees receive a certain amount of 1320 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:17,599 funds for their professional 1321 01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:20,240 development. Um and if they don't use 1322 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,280 them in that fis that fiscal year they 1323 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,880 roll over. So they do accumulate 1324 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:33,680 um and we budget for them and um so if 1325 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,720 they're not used in this fiscal year uh 1326 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,359 we h we end up with a savings. So that's 1327 01:00:39,359 --> 01:00:44,799 what's happening there. Um the 1328 01:00:44,799 --> 01:00:47,440 so yeah I'm going down here but I wanted 1329 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:52,559 to also point out um under salaries and 1330 01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:57,599 benefits we spent a total of 32.331 1331 01:00:57,599 --> 01:01:01,599 million and that was um we did have a 1332 01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:04,480 savings of $240,000 1333 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:11,670 there over here. Um 1334 01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:16,720 this in so the commission the all the 1335 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,319 negotiations 1336 01:01:18,319 --> 01:01:22,480 did were were completed late in the 1337 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:26,400 fiscal year and so the 1338 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,640 commission adopted the newou in August 1339 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:34,880 but it was retroactive to January. So 1340 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,520 all of those costs were paid out in this 1341 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,920 fiscal year. So they were recorded in 1342 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:44,480 this fiscal year. Um and um but as you 1343 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,000 can see, I think a $240,000 is a modest 1344 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,960 savings. Um but it it it um we did in 1345 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,319 the midyear re request an increase in 1346 01:01:56,319 --> 01:02:01,040 those costs um to reflect um those C 1347 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:05,349 cola uh increases. 1348 01:02:05,359 --> 01:02:08,390 Okay. 1349 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:12,470 Any questions so far? 1350 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,000 I'd like to just take you back for a 1351 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,680 quick thing. You're you're talking about 1352 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,960 the county. Um again, the old under the 1353 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:20,640 old arrangement the county we were 1354 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,240 connect the library is connected to the 1355 01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,040 county. So when when Merida talks about 1356 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:26,880 what the work the county does for us 1357 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,559 now, they are like hired to do. Do we 1358 01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:33,760 call it fiscal or fiscal agent? 1359 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,910 >> No, they're 1360 01:02:35,910 --> 01:02:35,920 » No, they're 1361 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,319 they they're just they just provide 1362 01:02:38,319 --> 01:02:39,680 accounting services. 1363 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,670 >> Accounting service. So we're paying them 1364 01:02:41,670 --> 01:02:41,680 » Accounting service. So we're paying them 1365 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,119 as though we would pay, you know, 1366 01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:43,990 >> a consultant, 1367 01:02:43,990 --> 01:02:44,000 » a consultant, 1368 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:45,109 >> somebody else, 1369 01:02:45,109 --> 01:02:45,119 » somebody else, 1370 01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:48,230 >> but but they're, you know, not working. 1371 01:02:48,230 --> 01:02:48,240 » but but they're, you know, not working. 1372 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,160 We're not, you know, part of that. you 1373 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:51,760 know, still we're separated from the 1374 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,280 county and I don't know. 1375 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,630 >> Yeah. So the county 1376 01:02:56,630 --> 01:02:56,640 » Yeah. So the county 1377 01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,160 uh in the auditor controllers treasurer 1378 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:04,000 tax collector's office headed by uh Eric 1379 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:09,599 Roger, they have a team that provides 1380 01:03:09,599 --> 01:03:14,160 accounting services to special districts 1381 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,039 because at some point in their his in 1382 01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:19,680 the history of the county there there 1383 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,160 are spe there are districts that are 1384 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,039 much smaller than we are uh much more 1385 01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:29,440 focus narrow in their focus and uh you 1386 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:34,400 know it with um the expertise within the 1387 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:39,280 the audit auditor controllers's office 1388 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:40,640 you have expertise but you have 1389 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,520 economies of scale. So, this one team 1390 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:47,520 that we work with, they serve several 1391 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:53,280 special districts and um and so we they 1392 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,640 they have an agreement with the library 1393 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,920 and and the auditor controller office. 1394 01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:04,150 >> And uh we if we were to hire that that 1395 01:04:04,150 --> 01:04:04,160 » And uh we if we were to hire that that 1396 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,680 team, it would be probably triple or 1397 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:11,280 quadruple the cost for us. Um and they 1398 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,640 are they have a lot of institutional 1399 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:18,799 knowledge of um 1400 01:04:18,799 --> 01:04:21,680 the county policies and procedures. They 1401 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,799 help us prepare for our audit 1402 01:04:24,799 --> 01:04:26,799 um and throughout the year with our 1403 01:04:26,799 --> 01:04:30,960 financials. So it is a uh quite a bit of 1404 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,960 a a great investment um that is very 1405 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,960 much a factor in 1406 01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,839 um the results of our audits and the 1407 01:04:41,839 --> 01:04:46,799 results of this AAA plus um 1408 01:04:46,799 --> 01:04:50,240 uh rating that we received. 1409 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,520 So we are we are separate but we we it's 1410 01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,799 a it's a it's a it's a contractual uh 1411 01:04:56,799 --> 01:04:58,480 arrangement 1412 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,150 >> for which we pay them. Yeah. 1413 01:05:00,150 --> 01:05:00,160 » for which we pay them. Yeah. 1414 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,710 >> Yes we do. 1415 01:05:02,710 --> 01:05:02,720 » Yes we do. 1416 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,990 >> Um and separately we pay the county for 1417 01:05:05,990 --> 01:05:06,000 » Um and separately we pay the county for 1418 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,119 using their system. So for every invoice 1419 01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:10,799 they charge us for every invoice 1420 01:05:10,799 --> 01:05:13,920 transaction that we enter we get 1421 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,920 charged. 1422 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,760 Um okay so where am I? 1423 01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:21,839 Okay. 1424 01:05:21,839 --> 01:05:25,270 >> Oh yeah, I asked for questions. 1425 01:05:25,270 --> 01:05:25,280 » Oh yeah, I asked for questions. 1426 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:29,039 Capital. Okay. 1427 01:05:29,039 --> 01:05:30,710 >> Um, 1428 01:05:30,710 --> 01:05:30,720 » Um, 1429 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,920 and capital 1430 01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,280 the total inc uh expenditures including 1431 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:42,549 incumbrances is 5.19 1432 01:05:42,559 --> 01:05:48,000 million. So we've spent 3.15 million. We 1433 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:53,039 have encumbered two two million and we 1434 01:05:53,039 --> 01:05:55,599 uh for a total of 1435 01:05:55,599 --> 01:05:57,839 5.19 1436 01:05:57,839 --> 01:06:03,039 million. Uh we do exceed the that the 1437 01:06:03,039 --> 01:06:06,240 budget by 279,000 1438 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,799 and this reflects this and it's driven 1439 01:06:08,799 --> 01:06:12,079 by these encumbrances. 1440 01:06:12,079 --> 01:06:17,280 uh we encumbered we did make a payment. 1441 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,599 So here's another uh building forward 1442 01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:23,440 grant with the city of Ronert Park. City 1443 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,680 of Roner Park applied directly to the 1444 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:30,319 state for the grant. Um and in and we 1445 01:06:30,319 --> 01:06:32,000 have an agreement the library has an 1446 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:36,160 agreement with them that whatever 1447 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,960 the there there's a match that's owed 1448 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:42,559 and the library and the city split it 1449 01:06:42,559 --> 01:06:45,920 5050 you know 50% the library 1450 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,920 contributes to the match city 1451 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,920 contributes the other 50 and we were 1452 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:56,720 invoiced 21 our total was 419 1453 01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,400 19,000 1454 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:02,319 and they invoiced us for 29,000. 1455 01:07:02,319 --> 01:07:05,680 And so we still owe another 210,000. 1456 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,160 When they uh finish the work, they will 1457 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,119 invoice us, but that is encumbered 1458 01:07:11,119 --> 01:07:15,119 because we know we owe it. Um and then 1459 01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:17,680 also 1460 01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:24,960 the architecture work for the for the 1461 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,520 new Rosland library as director to bolt 1462 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,319 mentioned um that work has not been 1463 01:07:30,319 --> 01:07:35,119 completed. So we also have about 44,000 1464 01:07:35,119 --> 01:07:38,640 that is still pending of work. And so 1465 01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,839 those are that's what's contributing um 1466 01:07:41,839 --> 01:07:43,440 the 1467 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,880 budget versus actuals when it comes to 1468 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,920 our capital. 1469 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,960 The encumbrances though are reflecting a 1470 01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,319 lot of the work at Ricon Valley. Um the 1471 01:07:56,319 --> 01:07:59,200 work started last fiscal year. We were 1472 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,760 original plan was to finish within June 1473 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,119 30th but as you know uh with the grand 1474 01:08:05,119 --> 01:08:07,839 opening today the work completed in this 1475 01:08:07,839 --> 01:08:10,559 new fiscal year. 1476 01:08:10,559 --> 01:08:12,799 Okay. 1477 01:08:12,799 --> 01:08:17,520 Um all right so that is the summary you 1478 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,520 do have through pages um I don't have 1479 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:26,789 what these pages are uh 1480 01:08:26,799 --> 01:08:30,159 in the packet they're attachments five 1481 01:08:30,159 --> 01:08:34,719 through um 19 1482 01:08:34,719 --> 01:08:37,679 are greater detail 1483 01:08:37,679 --> 01:08:41,120 uh by account. So you can see how much 1484 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,159 we spent on office supplies, how much 1485 01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:47,279 we've spent on janitorial, 1486 01:08:47,279 --> 01:08:50,719 so on and so forth. You have two sets, 1487 01:08:50,719 --> 01:08:52,880 one for property tax and one for sales 1488 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:56,080 tax because they are in two separate 1489 01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,719 funds. And that's what I mean by funds. 1490 01:08:58,719 --> 01:09:04,159 And when I said that for the um bond 1491 01:09:04,159 --> 01:09:06,159 proceeds, we're going we're creating 1492 01:09:06,159 --> 01:09:08,960 even a another fund where we'll track 1493 01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:12,640 those. So it government 1494 01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,359 accounting is fund accounting and we 1495 01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:17,839 have to a lot of cases we need to 1496 01:09:17,839 --> 01:09:21,600 separate the different um sources of 1497 01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,880 revenues in a separate fund. 1498 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:29,359 That's why you see the two set sets of 1499 01:09:29,359 --> 01:09:32,080 detailed spreadsheets. 1500 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,960 Um 1501 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:39,440 so we in this case we uh also report on 1502 01:09:39,440 --> 01:09:43,199 a monthly basis the cash balance as you 1503 01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:46,480 can see the cash balance as of June 30th 1504 01:09:46,480 --> 01:09:50,159 uh under property tax is 21.8 8 million 1505 01:09:50,159 --> 01:09:55,520 and sales tax is 12.3 million. And um so 1506 01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,000 as you can see here, 1507 01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,120 every organization has a cycle, a 1508 01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:06,239 revenue cycle. And for property tax, 1509 01:10:06,239 --> 01:10:10,320 the it it peaks at in December 23 1510 01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:16,320 million and then in April 25 million and 1511 01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:20,239 that co that coincides with the property 1512 01:10:20,239 --> 01:10:22,159 tax bills. 1513 01:10:22,159 --> 01:10:25,679 And then for sales tax is pretty evenly 1514 01:10:25,679 --> 01:10:27,600 distributed because we do receive a 1515 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:31,600 monthly receipt except for July and 1516 01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,280 August. 1517 01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,560 Uh we do have what we call restricted 1518 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,080 funds which are donations and bequests. 1519 01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:43,520 When when a 1520 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,159 when someone leaves the library a 1521 01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:50,239 bequest, they may restrict it to a 1522 01:10:50,239 --> 01:10:53,040 specific branch. 1523 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,560 Um, and donations with uh friends and 1524 01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,159 friends of the library or the 1525 01:10:58,159 --> 01:11:02,000 foundation, they do the same. Um, so 1526 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:05,760 that's why we call it restricted. 1527 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:10,880 Um, okay. So, next is our fund balance. 1528 01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:15,199 And as Chair McKenzie mentioned is that 1529 01:11:15,199 --> 01:11:19,440 um we do not have that statement in this 1530 01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:22,480 uh packet because we are still working 1531 01:11:22,480 --> 01:11:25,679 through budget adjustments, closing our 1532 01:11:25,679 --> 01:11:30,239 uh projects. So that um all of those 1533 01:11:30,239 --> 01:11:33,840 figures uh have a an effect on the fund 1534 01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:38,159 balance on reducing if we used so if 1535 01:11:38,159 --> 01:11:40,640 anything that was assigned and we reduce 1536 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,840 we used it we make those adjustments so 1537 01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:47,280 that we can then have a final unassigned 1538 01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:50,159 uh figure. 1539 01:11:50,159 --> 01:11:53,520 Um if you're interested, you can go back 1540 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,960 to prior months um that you've received 1541 01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,199 and look at that fund balance statement 1542 01:11:59,199 --> 01:12:02,159 and maybe you know you'll have some 1543 01:12:02,159 --> 01:12:06,550 questions for our next meeting. 1544 01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:13,590 Um okay. 1545 01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,840 Wow. Yeah. 1546 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,960 The next um 1547 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:22,320 report that you see is uh voucher 1548 01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:27,199 payments over $50,000. At some point um 1549 01:12:27,199 --> 01:12:30,000 the commission wanted to receive a 1550 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,679 report of any any bill any any payment 1551 01:12:33,679 --> 01:12:36,400 that was over $50,000. So this is this 1552 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,910 history. 1553 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:43,520 Any questions so far? Okay. Not a 1554 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,719 surprise. We've seen all 1555 01:12:46,719 --> 01:12:51,840 the uh the next um report is other 1556 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,679 contract services. that is a an account 1557 01:12:55,679 --> 01:13:01,280 that you see on your detailed sheets and 1558 01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,440 um 1559 01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:07,600 and and because it includes a variety of 1560 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:11,600 of of vendors, uh the commission had in 1561 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,159 some time in its history requested to 1562 01:13:14,159 --> 01:13:18,080 see a list of vendors that are 1563 01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:21,440 recorded in this account. And so there 1564 01:13:21,440 --> 01:13:24,480 you are. Any 1565 01:13:24,480 --> 01:13:26,880 questions on this? 1566 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,950 >> Well, things like this list of vendors, 1567 01:13:30,950 --> 01:13:30,960 » Well, things like this list of vendors, 1568 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,440 is there a reason for us to have to know 1569 01:13:33,440 --> 01:13:37,760 this or is it more or less a team that 1570 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,159 wind up being nothing we need to really 1571 01:13:40,159 --> 01:13:41,360 know? 1572 01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,189 >> There's a couple of reports in here. I 1573 01:13:43,189 --> 01:13:43,199 » There's a couple of reports in here. I 1574 01:13:43,199 --> 01:13:44,560 was going to go through these one by one 1575 01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,199 but to answer that specific question uh 1576 01:13:47,199 --> 01:13:49,679 in the in prior times when there were so 1577 01:13:49,679 --> 01:13:53,040 many so much turnover and changes in CFO 1578 01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:54,719 and this and that and the other thing 1579 01:13:54,719 --> 01:13:57,040 there were some people who had concerns 1580 01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,440 about certain stuff and one of them as 1581 01:13:59,440 --> 01:14:01,440 you mentioned was this voucher we want 1582 01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:03,520 to see these bigger payments so that's 1583 01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,000 what that report is on this this could 1584 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,400 be a recommendation out of our committee 1585 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,159 if we wanted to I don't know if we 1586 01:14:10,159 --> 01:14:12,400 should talk to the management see if 1587 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,000 they want keep the bonus. But that 1588 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:15,520 that's where that came from. And 1589 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,360 certainly this other contract services, 1590 01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,239 it was a big concern about I think legal 1591 01:14:20,239 --> 01:14:22,000 services or something at the time. And 1592 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:23,520 it's kind of well, we want to see what 1593 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,440 what else you're contracting with. So 1594 01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:28,880 these were came out of some uh feelings 1595 01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,360 that prior commissioners had about what 1596 01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,360 was going on. I don't think we have 1597 01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,280 those same kind of concerns now. I mean, 1598 01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,320 you bring up a good point. So whether um 1599 01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:43,600 we want to continue to ask these be 1600 01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,000 prepared, you know, is something that we 1601 01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:47,440 should discuss when we're at full 1602 01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:50,239 strength and have to look at stuff. I 1603 01:14:50,239 --> 01:14:51,520 was going to kind of go through all of 1604 01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,280 these because from a commissioner 1605 01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:54,800 standpoint, there's certain things that 1606 01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:56,800 we should that we focus on that'll make 1607 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,480 your life a little easier. I don't want 1608 01:14:58,480 --> 01:15:00,400 you to think that, you know, be 1609 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,719 discouraged by this because, you know, 1610 01:15:02,719 --> 01:15:05,520 it's a lot of stuff and, you know, we 1611 01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,199 look at things differently on the 1612 01:15:07,199 --> 01:15:09,360 quarter and we look at things different 1613 01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,280 at the end of the year, but on a monthly 1614 01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,199 basis, we're looking at a more 1615 01:15:13,199 --> 01:15:15,440 streamlined 1616 01:15:15,440 --> 01:15:18,480 uh, you know, outlook. And I really 1617 01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:20,400 appreciate Merida's efforts to, you 1618 01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:21,840 know, walk us through this kind of 1619 01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:23,920 detail, but you're hitting deep detail 1620 01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,800 today that you won't necessarily have, 1621 01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:28,960 you know, every month to to look up. 1622 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,270 >> Yeah. And I can um answer part of the 1623 01:15:31,270 --> 01:15:31,280 » Yeah. And I can um answer part of the 1624 01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,040 question. So, you know, there are 1625 01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:34,480 certain, you know, we have certain line 1626 01:15:34,480 --> 01:15:37,440 items in each of our department budgets 1627 01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:40,800 and I think we we can't provide um a 1628 01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,480 level of detail because some of the um 1629 01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:46,400 some of the items are kind of very broad 1630 01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,159 in general and so other contract 1631 01:15:48,159 --> 01:15:50,320 services that appears in all of the 1632 01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,960 departments and I think there was a like 1633 01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:54,560 commissioner McKenzie said that there 1634 01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,600 was a concern that things were being 1635 01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,640 kind of hidden in that uh and so this is 1636 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,600 what was the result of that. So, just to 1637 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,760 see and if you ever have any questions 1638 01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,159 about, you know, what these are for, you 1639 01:16:08,159 --> 01:16:10,320 know, we can certainly answer them. Um, 1640 01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,239 but it does comprise a variety of 1641 01:16:12,239 --> 01:16:13,679 different, it's mostly professional 1642 01:16:13,679 --> 01:16:16,080 services. So, you know, we hire a 1643 01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:17,760 strategic planner that goes in other 1644 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,080 contract services. We hire an executive 1645 01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:21,600 coach that goes in other contract 1646 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,640 services. our translation with Barbie. 1647 01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:28,239 Um some of our um our other uh you know 1648 01:16:28,239 --> 01:16:30,719 HR our fingerprinting goes in other 1649 01:16:30,719 --> 01:16:32,239 contract services. So it's kind of a 1650 01:16:32,239 --> 01:16:34,800 catchall place where these professional 1651 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,199 services that we contract out for uh 1652 01:16:37,199 --> 01:16:40,550 exist. 1653 01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,960 » I I would like to add that it's not 1654 01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,760 unusual. It is a common practice in or 1655 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,880 in uh reporting out in in transparency 1656 01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:50,800 and communication 1657 01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:55,199 uh with uh the governing board. So it's 1658 01:16:55,199 --> 01:16:58,880 not unusual this have this level of 1659 01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:00,239 detail. 1660 01:17:00,239 --> 01:17:01,910 >> Well, that's good to know. It's always 1661 01:17:01,910 --> 01:17:01,920 » Well, that's good to know. It's always 1662 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,000 better to have it. You know, you don't 1663 01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:05,600 have to look at it, but you have it. And 1664 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,400 you I appreciate your point of is it 1665 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,880 extra work, but it is like set up. No, 1666 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:12,950 >> right. I mean those are no it's it's a 1667 01:17:12,950 --> 01:17:12,960 » right. I mean those are no it's it's a 1668 01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:18,870 good practice I would say 1669 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:20,480 okay 1670 01:17:20,480 --> 01:17:25,669 um 1671 01:17:25,679 --> 01:17:29,120 if you do you have any qu did um chair 1672 01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:30,960 McKenzie did you want to go over any 1673 01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,440 other specifics because I'm towards the 1674 01:17:33,440 --> 01:17:35,760 end that I was going to wrap up but if 1675 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:37,920 you had any other questions on other 1676 01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,480 reports go over that I don't have any 1677 01:17:40,480 --> 01:17:42,960 more questions questions. Do any of you 1678 01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:47,920 any either excuse me 1679 01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:51,440 have any questions about um I would say 1680 01:17:51,440 --> 01:17:57,280 it's the first four pages of our 1681 01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:08,950 after that 1682 01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:12,790 Step out. 1683 01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:27,110 » We can just take a pause. 1684 01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,120 Unless Eve or Kimberly, you have a 1685 01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:32,080 question just about, you know, the forms 1686 01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,560 in general. 1687 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,440 No, I you know I was looking in the 1688 01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:39,280 wrong place and I got a little lost on 1689 01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:41,280 this page, but I'm just going to look at 1690 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,920 it and think about it after the meeting. 1691 01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:48,159 If I still have a question, I'll call 1692 01:18:48,159 --> 01:18:49,040 you 1693 01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,830 >> and it it takes time to 1694 01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:51,840 » and it it takes time to 1695 01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,630 >> it takes time to to get to know all 1696 01:18:54,630 --> 01:18:54,640 » it takes time to to get to know all 1697 01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:55,040 these 1698 01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:56,390 >> also. 1699 01:18:56,390 --> 01:18:56,400 » also. 1700 01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:04,950 I was following for a little while. 1701 01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:06,800 » I'm sorry. I sw something went down 1702 01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:08,320 wrong. And 1703 01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:13,270 >> anyway, where are we? 1704 01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:14,480 » We're wrapping it up. 1705 01:19:14,480 --> 01:19:17,350 >> Wrapping it up. 1706 01:19:17,350 --> 01:19:17,360 » Wrapping it up. 1707 01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,880 So anyway, let me go back to the top 1708 01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:24,080 page here, the summary. So you're going 1709 01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,640 to see that once a year. This is the 1710 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,000 year in sum. Next month you'll see that 1711 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,960 month's information. 1712 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:34,640 One of the things that I found helpful 1713 01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:39,120 in the last while is the percentages. 1714 01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:42,000 A way to kind of guide to for your own 1715 01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,080 benefit like where we are in our 1716 01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,159 expenditures 1717 01:19:46,159 --> 01:19:48,320 and if it's the first month that would 1718 01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,440 be is it 12%. 1719 01:19:51,440 --> 01:19:54,159 No, that's not 1720 01:19:54,159 --> 01:19:55,440 112 1721 01:19:55,440 --> 01:20:00,709 >> 112. 1722 01:20:00,719 --> 01:20:05,030 » It's what? 1723 01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:06,880 » But as we go along, it's kind of an easy 1724 01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,719 way you can check and monitor. And 1725 01:20:08,719 --> 01:20:10,960 again, we're in just so much better 1726 01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,600 shape. [clears throat] It's so much more 1727 01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:16,000 clear where we are. But that'll you'll 1728 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:17,520 see that next month. 1729 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,630 >> Yeah. So then a whole in the summary 1730 01:20:20,630 --> 01:20:20,640 » Yeah. So then a whole in the summary 1731 01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,520 cover page. salaries and benefits. You 1732 01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,960 look at total effective budget, we spent 1733 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,600 93 993% 1734 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,679 of the budget, 1735 01:20:31,679 --> 01:20:33,590 >> which is pretty darn good budgeting. 1736 01:20:33,590 --> 01:20:33,600 » which is pretty darn good budgeting. 1737 01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,110 >> So on and so. 1738 01:20:35,110 --> 01:20:35,120 » So on and so. 1739 01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:36,790 >> Yeah. 1740 01:20:36,790 --> 01:20:36,800 » Yeah. 1741 01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,080 And again, next month you're going to 1742 01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,400 see one month's worth. 1743 01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,120 Um, but it's also September, so it's a 1744 01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:44,719 quarter. So we are going to have all 1745 01:20:44,719 --> 01:20:45,760 these reports. 1746 01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:47,669 >> September quarterly. You'll see in 1747 01:20:47,669 --> 01:20:47,679 » September quarterly. You'll see in 1748 01:20:47,679 --> 01:20:48,000 October. 1749 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,390 >> Oh, okay. I'll get October. 1750 01:20:50,390 --> 01:20:50,400 » Oh, okay. I'll get October. 1751 01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,480 The second page, the cash balance 1752 01:20:52,480 --> 01:20:54,719 summary. The most interesting thing on 1753 01:20:54,719 --> 01:20:58,560 this to me is that uh this has all these 1754 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,960 details of these individual bequests. 1755 01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,199 This has all been cleaned up enormously 1756 01:21:03,199 --> 01:21:07,120 by our wonderful staff who this used to 1757 01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:10,239 be a kind of big mush mish mash and this 1758 01:21:10,239 --> 01:21:13,280 has all um been identified by the 1759 01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,960 individual donors and so forth. Um the 1760 01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,520 voucher thing again what I always look 1761 01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:23,040 at is just that top month the latest one 1762 01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:24,640 you've got the whole year but you know 1763 01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:26,400 the top one is what you want to look at 1764 01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,040 so you don't have to spend you know a 1765 01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,360 lot of time on that report the contract 1766 01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,360 services are is you know interesting 1767 01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,360 again to just to keep an eye on things 1768 01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,520 and then you get into these details it's 1769 01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,679 for us to have but we don't spend a lot 1770 01:21:39,679 --> 01:21:41,199 of time in the finance committee going 1771 01:21:41,199 --> 01:21:43,120 over any of that except if anybody has 1772 01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:46,560 any questions. So anyway, I don't want 1773 01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:50,000 you to feel, you know, bogged down in in 1774 01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:53,760 reporting when we come here. Um, 1775 01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:57,199 I think that's all I was going to say 1776 01:21:57,199 --> 01:22:02,070 about that. 1777 01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,480 This this final uh page here, I don't 1778 01:22:04,480 --> 01:22:06,159 know what this my pages aren't numbered, 1779 01:22:06,159 --> 01:22:08,000 so I'm not sure what to call this. The 1780 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,480 allocation of actual expenditures. 1781 01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:15,110 >> Yeah. So this report I like to show have 1782 01:22:15,110 --> 01:22:15,120 » Yeah. So this report I like to show have 1783 01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:16,800 a policy 1784 01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:20,709 of 1785 01:22:20,719 --> 01:22:24,080 we we have a policy 1786 01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:29,360 allocation of major revenues where um 1787 01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:34,480 it provides guidance to staff on how to 1788 01:22:34,480 --> 01:22:38,480 I primarily use it for uh formulating 1789 01:22:38,480 --> 01:22:43,280 the budget And um and so we know how 1790 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:45,520 what percentage uh what percentage of 1791 01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,760 the expenditures 1792 01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:51,120 are allocated to 1793 01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:55,840 property tax and to sales tax and um and 1794 01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,000 so at the end of the or on a quarterly 1795 01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,400 basis but 1796 01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:05,360 uh here and year end um if you look at 1797 01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,159 the actual expenditures okay and I do 1798 01:23:08,159 --> 01:23:10,239 say does not include the incumbrance but 1799 01:23:10,239 --> 01:23:13,520 just actuals what has been out the door. 1800 01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,600 Um 1801 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,880 we know through the 1802 01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:22,639 the policy that expenditures 1803 01:23:22,639 --> 01:23:26,480 capital expenditures are allocated 10% 1804 01:23:26,480 --> 01:23:31,199 to property tax and 90% to sales tax. So 1805 01:23:31,199 --> 01:23:34,719 basically this chart is a summary of uh 1806 01:23:34,719 --> 01:23:38,639 how much was spent in property tax, how 1807 01:23:38,639 --> 01:23:41,120 much was spent in sales tax and then 1808 01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,880 gives you the the split and it should 1809 01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:48,239 match the budget on how the budget was 1810 01:23:48,239 --> 01:23:51,360 adopted. Um 1811 01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:54,800 so we have uh the first two charts uh 1812 01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,679 show the serviceoriented divisions. Uh 1813 01:23:57,679 --> 01:24:02,400 we the policy states that um capital is 1814 01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:06,719 10% to property tax, 90% to sales tax. 1815 01:24:06,719 --> 01:24:09,840 It uh it pro gives us a range on 1816 01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,440 salaries, services and other charges. So 1817 01:24:13,440 --> 01:24:15,760 when the budget was adopted, the 1818 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:19,679 percentage to property tax was 62% and 1819 01:24:19,679 --> 01:24:23,840 38% to sales tax. 1820 01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,320 Under administration divisions, the 1821 01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:29,920 policy is a little is more strict. Um, 1822 01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:33,440 it states that the property tax pays 90% 1823 01:24:33,440 --> 01:24:36,239 of those expenditures and sales tax pays 1824 01:24:36,239 --> 01:24:38,880 10% of those expenditures. 1825 01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:42,639 But when we add them all up, the the uh 1826 01:24:42,639 --> 01:24:44,639 all the divisions together is the LA is 1827 01:24:44,639 --> 01:24:49,600 the third col um chart. And um and then 1828 01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,000 I give you it essentially all blended 1829 01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,159 together. The property tax has picked up 1830 01:24:54,159 --> 01:25:01,189 62% of expenditures and sales tax 38%. 1831 01:25:01,199 --> 01:25:03,520 » This was a real important, you know, 1832 01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,920 kind of bottom line thing like in terms 1833 01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:07,840 of our funding, right? It's really nice 1834 01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,960 to see that 6238 because sometimes we'd 1835 01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,360 say two 2/3 one whatever. I mean, this 1836 01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,520 is a real number and I'd like to add a 1837 01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,480 tiny bit of background here. Before 1838 01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:20,320 Measure Y was passed, it was all 1839 01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,960 property tax. When Measure Y was passed, 1840 01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,199 it was passed with an expenditure plan. 1841 01:25:25,199 --> 01:25:27,280 So, the public was told, "This is what 1842 01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,199 we're going to spend your money on." And 1843 01:25:29,199 --> 01:25:34,159 it wasn't to take away uh some book 1844 01:25:34,159 --> 01:25:35,679 budget to spend it for something else 1845 01:25:35,679 --> 01:25:37,679 and then supplement it with measure Y. 1846 01:25:37,679 --> 01:25:39,199 It was supposed to be an additional 1847 01:25:39,199 --> 01:25:42,159 amount. And so for several years we went 1848 01:25:42,159 --> 01:25:44,480 through this kind of a very hazy period 1849 01:25:44,480 --> 01:25:47,600 where it really wasn't clear the 1850 01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:49,840 allocation of the pro of the measure Y 1851 01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:51,760 money and again going through several 1852 01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:55,120 CFOs was very blurry whatever and then 1853 01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,760 America came along and understood that 1854 01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:59,920 we really had to have a policy a written 1855 01:25:59,920 --> 01:26:01,600 policy what percent well how the heck do 1856 01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:03,600 you figure that out but she came up with 1857 01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,239 this rather brilliant plan of looking 1858 01:26:06,239 --> 01:26:08,800 back and seeing what it had 1859 01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,120 traditionally been and now it's a set 1860 01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:14,639 formula. It isn't exactly to the penny, 1861 01:26:14,639 --> 01:26:18,159 but the 9010 is is exact. And so we're 1862 01:26:18,159 --> 01:26:22,480 never going to spend more of our um the 1863 01:26:22,480 --> 01:26:24,239 measure Y money is going to be spent on 1864 01:26:24,239 --> 01:26:26,639 buildings, for example. Um and the and 1865 01:26:26,639 --> 01:26:29,199 the 10% will come from property tax, but 1866 01:26:29,199 --> 01:26:31,600 90% is going to come from measure one so 1867 01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,239 this is incredibly valuable tool to have 1868 01:26:34,239 --> 01:26:35,920 that is in place. what it's been three 1869 01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:37,920 or four years or so since you came up 1870 01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:42,480 with this. And um how long has it been 1871 01:26:42,480 --> 01:26:42,880 five? 1872 01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,270 >> It'll be five in know uh let's see I 1873 01:26:45,270 --> 01:26:45,280 » It'll be five in know uh let's see I 1874 01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:47,440 started in November of 21 and then I 1875 01:26:47,440 --> 01:26:49,040 think it was adopted in January or 1876 01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:51,920 February. So yeah up we're coming up to 1877 01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:54,960 five years. Fantastic. 1878 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:58,070 >> I started in June 2021. So I just had my 1879 01:26:58,070 --> 01:26:58,080 » I started in June 2021. So I just had my 1880 01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:59,520 fiveyear anniversary. 1881 01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:00,229 >> Oh bra. 1882 01:27:00,229 --> 01:27:00,239 » Oh bra. 1883 01:27:00,239 --> 01:27:02,070 >> I'm vested now. 1884 01:27:02,070 --> 01:27:02,080 » I'm vested now. 1885 01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:06,550 >> Wow. Cool. That's great. So the um the 1886 01:27:06,550 --> 01:27:06,560 » Wow. Cool. That's great. So the um the 1887 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,360 measure Y oversight committee the 1888 01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:11,679 citizens oversight committee is meets 1889 01:27:11,679 --> 01:27:14,080 this Thursday and so I will be 1890 01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:17,040 presenting the same information and this 1891 01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:20,080 that's where this chart is particularly 1892 01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,639 of interest to that committee. 1893 01:27:22,639 --> 01:27:25,510 >> Yes. And it wasn't clear and I used to 1894 01:27:25,510 --> 01:27:25,520 » Yes. And it wasn't clear and I used to 1895 01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:26,800 talk about this because I was really 1896 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,199 worried the grand jury would come in and 1897 01:27:29,199 --> 01:27:31,440 do an investigation. No one could 1898 01:27:31,440 --> 01:27:33,120 understand what I was saying or would 1899 01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:34,880 listen to what I was saying about this. 1900 01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:36,320 And so it was finally, you know, 1901 01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:38,239 Meredith who really got what I was 1902 01:27:38,239 --> 01:27:41,440 talking about and and Judy Glenn on the 1903 01:27:41,440 --> 01:27:43,280 Measure Y committee used to say the same 1904 01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:44,800 thing too. Well, wait a minute. This, 1905 01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:48,480 you know, whatever. So anyway, feel 1906 01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:50,560 secure that we have a formula and it 1907 01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,040 really works and it's justifiable and it 1908 01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:55,360 makes sense and the expenditure measure 1909 01:27:55,360 --> 01:28:01,440 Y money is very clear now. Another 1910 01:28:01,440 --> 01:28:06,320 piece that um that this committee we 1911 01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:09,040 that staff reports to and this committee 1912 01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,719 are updates on policies and procedures. 1913 01:28:12,719 --> 01:28:16,790 And um 1914 01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:18,960 we we normally like to report this like 1915 01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:22,159 in February or March, but uh here's a 1916 01:28:22,159 --> 01:28:26,239 summary that you know the budget and 1917 01:28:26,239 --> 01:28:28,800 financial services team has completed 1918 01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:32,000 the following more than this but these 1919 01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,719 are the highlights. Uh updated the 1920 01:28:34,719 --> 01:28:38,000 grants management process. Uh supported 1921 01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,560 the update to the gifts and donations 1922 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:44,480 policy. Um, we've implemented the 1923 01:28:44,480 --> 01:28:47,440 incumbrance module in EFS, which is our 1924 01:28:47,440 --> 01:28:50,400 financial system to support greater 1925 01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,880 budget controls. We prepared an 1926 01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,199 additional analysis for the additional 1927 01:28:55,199 --> 01:28:57,440 discretionary payments to pay down the 1928 01:28:57,440 --> 01:29:01,920 pension unfunded acred liability. Um, we 1929 01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,639 will be making our first payment uh by 1930 01:29:04,639 --> 01:29:08,159 December of this fiscal year. Uh BAPS 1931 01:29:08,159 --> 01:29:11,760 has also had a key role in uh prep 1932 01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,400 preparing for the financing and the 1933 01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:18,080 purchase of the uh operations 1934 01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:20,239 uh center building 1935 01:29:20,239 --> 01:29:24,639 and um in September we we uh plan to 1936 01:29:24,639 --> 01:29:27,040 share with you an update on the 1937 01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:31,120 purchasing policy. Um it's been in good 1938 01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,320 it's been needed to make some updates on 1939 01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:37,440 that and uh we'd like you to provide you 1940 01:29:37,440 --> 01:29:41,920 some information also on bequest. Um so 1941 01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:46,960 that that concludes my report today and 1942 01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:51,910 unless you have any more questions. 1943 01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,480 » So when I was uh coughing did I miss 1944 01:29:54,480 --> 01:29:58,320 Katherine's appropriation transfer? No, 1945 01:29:58,320 --> 01:29:59,920 we haven't on there yet. 1946 01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:00,870 >> Okay. 1947 01:30:00,870 --> 01:30:00,880 » Okay. 1948 01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:01,910 >> Nothing to report. 1949 01:30:01,910 --> 01:30:01,920 » Nothing to report. 1950 01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:04,390 >> I know, but it's on the agenda, so you 1951 01:30:04,390 --> 01:30:04,400 » I know, but it's on the agenda, so you 1952 01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:05,760 can report that we have nothing to 1953 01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:07,440 report. 1954 01:30:07,440 --> 01:30:10,629 >> So, that's the next item on the agenda. 1955 01:30:10,629 --> 01:30:10,639 » So, that's the next item on the agenda. 1956 01:30:10,639 --> 01:30:13,360 Um, 1957 01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:14,470 >> I thought you had jumped to the 1958 01:30:14,470 --> 01:30:14,480 » I thought you had jumped to the 1959 01:30:14,480 --> 01:30:16,000 workflow. That's why I was asking. 1960 01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:19,750 >> No, we haven't. 1961 01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,080 » That is correct. We had no appropriation 1962 01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:25,360 transfers this past quarter. Um to give 1963 01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:27,760 you some background, we have an 1964 01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,800 appropriation transfer policy and it's 1965 01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:35,199 to allow um within the director's 1966 01:30:35,199 --> 01:30:37,440 delegation authority to move within 1967 01:30:37,440 --> 01:30:42,639 budget small items. Um so say 1968 01:30:42,639 --> 01:30:44,800 um when you look at the budget, I I made 1969 01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:46,960 a budget that I was going to spend 1970 01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:50,480 10,000 in other contracts, but maybe I 1971 01:30:50,480 --> 01:30:52,320 throughout the fiscal year I end up 1972 01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,320 using it somewhere else. allowed to move 1973 01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:56,960 that like I said as long as it's within 1974 01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,360 the director's delegation of authority 1975 01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:01,920 and then we report it quarterly all of 1976 01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:03,920 those sources. 1977 01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:05,590 >> Yeah, I can give you an example of that. 1978 01:31:05,590 --> 01:31:05,600 » Yeah, I can give you an example of that. 1979 01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:07,120 Like so we have our other contract 1980 01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:10,080 services and then we have another line 1981 01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:11,760 item that's very similar to that and I 1982 01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:14,560 forget outside consulting. And so my 1983 01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:16,560 contract for the strategic plan, for 1984 01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:18,480 some reason, all of the money was 1985 01:31:18,480 --> 01:31:21,440 encumbered in other contract services 1986 01:31:21,440 --> 01:31:23,840 and it was a little over. So I took some 1987 01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:27,199 of the money from outside consulting and 1988 01:31:27,199 --> 01:31:30,480 I put that into um outside or other 1989 01:31:30,480 --> 01:31:32,639 contract services just so that you know 1990 01:31:32,639 --> 01:31:37,120 I was still staying within my budget. 1991 01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:40,560 Um so just a little bit of background on 1992 01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,360 that is 1993 01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:47,040 that those level of tr of of 1994 01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,440 transactions as small as it might be 1995 01:31:49,440 --> 01:31:52,480 $5,000 and you know from training into 1996 01:31:52,480 --> 01:31:54,639 office supplies 1997 01:31:54,639 --> 01:32:00,719 um that authority lies with the 1998 01:32:00,719 --> 01:32:02,719 governing board. 1999 01:32:02,719 --> 01:32:06,239 Uh so when we we couldn't make those 2000 01:32:06,239 --> 01:32:09,440 those those uh transfers 2001 01:32:09,440 --> 01:32:11,440 um and 2002 01:32:11,440 --> 01:32:14,480 it happens quite a bit three four times 2003 01:32:14,480 --> 01:32:18,560 in a quarter and uh and we would have to 2004 01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:20,880 come to so I would put everything on 2005 01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:24,000 hold until mid year and then have these 2006 01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:27,199 small amounts uh transferred uh at the 2007 01:32:27,199 --> 01:32:33,840 midyear report um uh point but Um 2008 01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,639 uh in talking to the county, the best 2009 01:32:36,639 --> 01:32:38,880 practice is well if you have a policy 2010 01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,520 where the governing board then delegates 2011 01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:45,040 that authority to staff the director or 2012 01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:47,840 and the CFO in this case in this in this 2013 01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:53,280 policy then it sets a a process for um 2014 01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:57,679 the library to make these routine um uh 2015 01:32:57,679 --> 01:33:00,880 transactions and uh and then for 2016 01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:03,920 transparency purposes provide this 2017 01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,159 committee and the commission a report of 2018 01:33:06,159 --> 01:33:08,639 how monies were moved around in the 2019 01:33:08,639 --> 01:33:11,440 budget. That policy does give us 2020 01:33:11,440 --> 01:33:14,239 restrictions. There are restrictions. So 2021 01:33:14,239 --> 01:33:17,199 we cannot we won't be able to move funds 2022 01:33:17,199 --> 01:33:21,120 from you know uh the new fund where 2023 01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:23,679 we're tracking the proceeds into 2024 01:33:23,679 --> 01:33:27,920 property tax that we will have to still 2025 01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:30,080 get authority and and the commission 2026 01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,159 will have to approve that. 2027 01:33:32,159 --> 01:33:34,470 >> So for our gifts and donations so we 2028 01:33:34,470 --> 01:33:34,480 » So for our gifts and donations so we 2029 01:33:34,480 --> 01:33:37,440 cannot move money out of any of our um 2030 01:33:37,440 --> 01:33:41,120 restricted funds our our bequests um I 2031 01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:42,880 cannot do that only the commission can 2032 01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:45,120 do that. So that was one of the um 2033 01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:49,510 exemptions 2034 01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:51,520 » all about transparency. 2035 01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:53,510 >> Yeah. 2036 01:33:53,510 --> 01:33:53,520 » Yeah. 2037 01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:53,910 >> Okay. 2038 01:33:53,910 --> 01:33:53,920 » Okay. 2039 01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:55,750 >> Oh, and controls. 2040 01:33:55,750 --> 01:33:55,760 » Oh, and controls. 2041 01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:56,310 >> What? 2042 01:33:56,310 --> 01:33:56,320 » What? 2043 01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:58,790 >> Controls. 2044 01:33:58,790 --> 01:33:58,800 » Controls. 2045 01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:00,470 >> Those are key. 2046 01:34:00,470 --> 01:34:00,480 » Those are key. 2047 01:34:00,480 --> 01:34:03,510 >> Okay. So, uh any questions about the 2048 01:34:03,510 --> 01:34:03,520 » Okay. So, uh any questions about the 2049 01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:06,800 appropriations, transfers, 2050 01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:10,400 um and then we have a workflow that our 2051 01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:12,639 CFO put together for us a few years ago. 2052 01:34:12,639 --> 01:34:15,040 It was so kind of help people. 2053 01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:16,390 >> The only thing I noticed when I looked 2054 01:34:16,390 --> 01:34:16,400 » The only thing I noticed when I looked 2055 01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:19,120 at this one is that we used to have uh 2056 01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:20,719 when the finance committee would see it 2057 01:34:20,719 --> 01:34:22,159 and then when the commission would see 2058 01:34:22,159 --> 01:34:24,000 it. Did you did you take the commission 2059 01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:27,840 part off that for a reason? 2060 01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:30,080 I think so. I think I received feedback 2061 01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:34,000 to simplify the chart. 2062 01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:38,800 Um but normally the fi the normally what 2063 01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:41,120 happens is the month that you see here 2064 01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,040 right the finance committee sees it in 2065 01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:46,000 August the commission normally sees it 2066 01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:49,280 the following month unless this finance 2067 01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:51,120 committee says no we need more work 2068 01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:53,280 bring it back to the finance committee 2069 01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:55,920 but it will not advance any item will 2070 01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:58,639 not advance unless this committee has a 2071 01:34:58,639 --> 01:35:01,920 consensus to recommend it to the full 2072 01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:04,000 commission. 2073 01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:06,239 Well, if it's not a problem, we can, you 2074 01:35:06,239 --> 01:35:10,639 know, we'll leave this new version. I 2075 01:35:10,639 --> 01:35:12,800 did want to say that I was thrilled to 2076 01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:16,880 see in February the five-year forecast. 2077 01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:18,470 >> We've been talking about that for so 2078 01:35:18,470 --> 01:35:18,480 » We've been talking about that for so 2079 01:35:18,480 --> 01:35:20,320 long and and I noticed it was referenced 2080 01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:22,639 in that AMN report that we had the 2081 01:35:22,639 --> 01:35:24,880 five-year help forecast really helped 2082 01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:25,760 with that. 2083 01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:29,669 >> Yes. though um the commi the I did 2084 01:35:29,669 --> 01:35:29,679 » Yes. though um the commi the I did 2085 01:35:29,679 --> 01:35:32,159 provide a forecast to the commission 2086 01:35:32,159 --> 01:35:37,120 over um leading up to the decision of 2087 01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:39,920 the acquisition. That was the biggest 2088 01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:41,520 impetus for that. Yeah, 2089 01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:45,910 >> we did have a a forecast prior to that, 2090 01:35:45,910 --> 01:35:45,920 » we did have a a forecast prior to that, 2091 01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:49,440 but it had not been updated and it was 2092 01:35:49,440 --> 01:35:52,960 it was just a good timing to update that 2093 01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,520 force cast given the the the decision 2094 01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:56,719 before the commission. 2095 01:35:56,719 --> 01:35:57,590 >> Yeah. 2096 01:35:57,590 --> 01:35:57,600 » Yeah. 2097 01:35:57,600 --> 01:36:01,750 >> Um so I do have it here to program it to 2098 01:36:01,750 --> 01:36:01,760 » Um so I do have it here to program it to 2099 01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:04,560 to update it annually. 2100 01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:06,159 And the other thing I was really happy 2101 01:36:06,159 --> 01:36:09,360 to see was the the draft policy for 2102 01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:11,199 allocation appropriation of fiscal 2103 01:36:11,199 --> 01:36:12,880 surplus. 2104 01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:15,760 So I won't go into that today, but you 2105 01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:17,760 know, in the past we wondered about what 2106 01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:21,440 the policy was when we have, you know, 2107 01:36:21,440 --> 01:36:23,600 these funds, these they're one-time 2108 01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:26,560 funds and they're the unassigned fund 2109 01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:28,800 balance funds, right? And so what do we 2110 01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:30,560 do with that money? We've never had a 2111 01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:33,840 policy about it. it's been um somewhat 2112 01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:35,199 you know kind of reactive to the 2113 01:36:35,199 --> 01:36:37,679 circumstances and what we've needed for 2114 01:36:37,679 --> 01:36:39,520 and then there you know the fixing up of 2115 01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:40,880 the different libraries and so forth 2116 01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:42,800 there hasn't been a real clear policy 2117 01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:46,239 about so anyway I'm great that you're I 2118 01:36:46,239 --> 01:36:47,920 know you have mentioned that Erica in 2119 01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,560 the past why why we needed a policy so 2120 01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:52,719 I'm glad that's going to be before the 2121 01:36:52,719 --> 01:36:55,679 committee in November so 2122 01:36:55,679 --> 01:36:57,840 any questions I know it's can be kind of 2123 01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:00,400 overwhelming all the the information 2124 01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:04,320 today But u I really appreciate uh MNA's 2125 01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:08,000 efforts to give you the full picture 2126 01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:10,960 which she did very well and Erica's 2127 01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:13,920 comments on the 2128 01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:17,040 a lot of the specifics any um thing that 2129 01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:20,239 you would like to know more about or 2130 01:37:20,239 --> 01:37:25,510 is it time to digest? 2131 01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:28,480 Well, my two questions I guess are ones 2132 01:37:28,480 --> 01:37:30,480 that are going to be answered later in 2133 01:37:30,480 --> 01:37:33,040 the year. I just thought also it's 2134 01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:35,920 important to for me at least to get a 2135 01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:39,520 handle on the different kinds of funds 2136 01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:44,239 once this season fund balance I kind of 2137 01:37:44,239 --> 01:37:46,000 understand that when there's a big 2138 01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:48,480 surplus take from it when you need to 2139 01:37:48,480 --> 01:37:50,400 take from it as things come up and then 2140 01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:52,320 eventually there isn't the big surplus 2141 01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:54,960 and then what happens then how do we do 2142 01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:57,840 planning for that. And then my other 2143 01:37:57,840 --> 01:37:59,920 question I guess that's it's not a 2144 01:37:59,920 --> 01:38:04,800 question exactly just a concern is so it 2145 01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:08,320 seems like costs for most things keep 2146 01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:11,920 going up whether it's for 2147 01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:15,280 FFN stuff whether it's for um labor 2148 01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:17,119 costs 2149 01:38:17,119 --> 01:38:20,000 well what happens over time since that 2150 01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:24,080 seems to be a trend if our income either 2151 01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:27,920 stays flat or goes down. 2152 01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,560 What happens then? Is that part of the 2153 01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:33,760 surplus that goes in there? And I I 2154 01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:35,760 don't you know long-term planning kind 2155 01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:38,719 of or not longterm midterm. How does it 2156 01:38:38,719 --> 01:38:41,119 look? What happens? 2157 01:38:41,119 --> 01:38:42,390 >> Well, that would be part of the 2158 01:38:42,390 --> 01:38:42,400 » Well, that would be part of the 2159 01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:43,760 forecast. 2160 01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:46,709 >> Yes. 2161 01:38:46,709 --> 01:38:46,719 » Yes. 2162 01:38:46,719 --> 01:38:49,109 >> You'll also see the reserves on the fun. 2163 01:38:49,109 --> 01:38:49,119 » You'll also see the reserves on the fun. 2164 01:38:49,119 --> 01:38:52,000 See the fund balance activity report. 2165 01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:53,679 See those reserves. We have in fund 2166 01:38:53,679 --> 01:38:56,239 balance policy. We have policy about re 2167 01:38:56,239 --> 01:38:57,920 rainy day funds and what's the other one 2168 01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:01,360 anyway you know there's there's a lot of 2169 01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:03,760 builtin support to those kind of 2170 01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:06,880 questions about lesser lesser income but 2171 01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:08,639 um I'm really glad that we'll have this 2172 01:39:08,639 --> 01:39:11,119 policy to plan just what we're talking 2173 01:39:11,119 --> 01:39:18,070 about that's what we got that money 2174 01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:24,159 you know policy way so um again 2175 01:39:24,159 --> 01:39:26,400 starting off um asking very good 2176 01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:28,560 questions and you know there's a pretty 2177 01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:30,800 steep learning curve about all of it I 2178 01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:35,760 found and um but you're asking 2179 01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:37,830 >> yeah and you know when we do ourou 2180 01:39:37,830 --> 01:39:37,840 » yeah and you know when we do ourou 2181 01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:41,840 negotiations we do actually look at um 2182 01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:45,040 you know our projected revenue increases 2183 01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:47,440 and what we can what we think we can 2184 01:39:47,440 --> 01:39:49,440 afford in terms of cost of living 2185 01:39:49,440 --> 01:39:52,719 adjustments. So um you know we our 2186 01:39:52,719 --> 01:39:55,119 contract ends in 2027. It feels like we 2187 01:39:55,119 --> 01:39:57,760 just finished it. Um but we will be 2188 01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:00,560 doing that analysis again you know um 2189 01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:02,880 this time next year. Um we will be 2190 01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:05,040 looking at our revenues as well as you 2191 01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:07,199 know MNA is always talking to the county 2192 01:40:07,199 --> 01:40:10,159 about their projections as well and then 2193 01:40:10,159 --> 01:40:12,719 coming up with um you know colas that we 2194 01:40:12,719 --> 01:40:15,760 think we can reasonably afford and not 2195 01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:18,320 you know not promising more than um we 2196 01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:23,270 think we can deliver. 2197 01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:25,280 But then some of our building projects, 2198 01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:28,239 you know, we've we've reduced scope um 2199 01:40:28,239 --> 01:40:30,880 so that we have stayed within budget for 2200 01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:33,199 our building project. So there we have a 2201 01:40:33,199 --> 01:40:35,280 variety of different tools we can use to 2202 01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:36,880 make sure that we're kind of staying 2203 01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:39,520 within budget. Um and that is one of 2204 01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:43,189 them. 2205 01:40:43,199 --> 01:40:45,119 Okay. 2206 01:40:45,119 --> 01:40:48,149 >> Well, 2207 01:40:48,159 --> 01:40:52,080 we're on the the workflow. So, 2208 01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:55,520 as you can see, are they Oh, yes. So, 2209 01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:57,520 like in October, you'll see capital 2210 01:40:57,520 --> 01:41:00,800 project update one. So, on a quarterly 2211 01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:04,960 basis, I provide another control and 2212 01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:08,800 report back to the committee is what is 2213 01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:13,119 the status of the capital projects? uh 2214 01:41:13,119 --> 01:41:15,760 how much what what the budget is, how 2215 01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:18,560 much was has been spent, how much work 2216 01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:21,679 um and any reports on delays that have 2217 01:41:21,679 --> 01:41:26,159 happened um are reported here. So we do 2218 01:41:26,159 --> 01:41:29,600 make modifications, you know, definitely 2219 01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:32,159 we've received much very good feedback 2220 01:41:32,159 --> 01:41:34,080 from the the finance committee. I'm 2221 01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:36,639 like, "No, we don't support an increase 2222 01:41:36,639 --> 01:41:40,159 of that much or what are you what are we 2223 01:41:40,159 --> 01:41:41,760 getting for the for this amount of 2224 01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:45,280 money?" Um, all of those really good 2225 01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:48,719 questions and uh, you know, we we it's 2226 01:41:48,719 --> 01:41:51,440 an iterative process and staff has then 2227 01:41:51,440 --> 01:41:53,600 come back with something that's more 2228 01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:56,880 palatable to the committee and uh, and 2229 01:41:56,880 --> 01:41:59,600 then, you know, recommended to the the 2230 01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:02,000 full the full commission. So, it's a 2231 01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:05,119 it's a it's a good a really good role 2232 01:42:05,119 --> 01:42:08,719 and um iterative process with with the 2233 01:42:08,719 --> 01:42:11,040 finance committee that plays in in 2234 01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:13,199 making these decisions to stay within 2235 01:42:13,199 --> 01:42:16,639 budget and uh yeah, 2236 01:42:16,639 --> 01:42:18,149 >> you really enjoy being on the finance 2237 01:42:18,149 --> 01:42:18,159 » you really enjoy being on the finance 2238 01:42:18,159 --> 01:42:22,960 committee because it's a it's just a 2239 01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:25,040 deeper dive into stuff. I hate using 2240 01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:27,040 that term, but anyway, the, you know, we 2241 01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:28,560 go to our commission meetings once a 2242 01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:30,239 month and we learn, you know, kind of 2243 01:42:30,239 --> 01:42:31,920 basic stuff, but this you really kind of 2244 01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:34,239 get into a lot of the meat and potatoes 2245 01:42:34,239 --> 01:42:36,480 and just working together in a smaller 2246 01:42:36,480 --> 01:42:38,320 group is great and working closer with 2247 01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:40,000 the staff is great and I think you'll 2248 01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:43,440 really enjoy it. And um 2249 01:42:43,440 --> 01:42:45,679 so last call for any questions before we 2250 01:42:45,679 --> 01:42:50,320 talk about uh oh, items for future. What 2251 01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:52,080 would you like to talk about at a future 2252 01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:55,750 meeting? 2253 01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:56,320 If not, 2254 01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:59,350 >> I just said mine 2255 01:42:59,350 --> 01:42:59,360 » I just said mine 2256 01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:01,199 in the next. 2257 01:43:01,199 --> 01:43:02,950 >> Okay, 2258 01:43:02,950 --> 01:43:02,960 » Okay, 2259 01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:05,270 >> we'll just follow the process then, but 2260 01:43:05,270 --> 01:43:05,280 » we'll just follow the process then, but 2261 01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:08,960 you can always add items on and the end 2262 01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:12,000 of a meeting. Um, next meeting is uh 2263 01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:14,000 we'll stay with our current schedule 2264 01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:16,960 which is would be Monday uh September 2265 01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:19,679 21st, the third Monday at 2 o'clock and 2266 01:43:19,679 --> 01:43:22,560 then see where we are or who's here and 2267 01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:27,679 make decisions about more stuff. 2268 01:43:27,679 --> 01:43:32,709 >> Thank you. So do I. Anyway, um, 2269 01:43:32,709 --> 01:43:32,719 » Thank you. So do I. Anyway, um, 2270 01:43:32,719 --> 01:43:35,040 cheers. Thank you for being here and 2271 01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:37,119 everybody all the staff and the new 2272 01:43:37,119 --> 01:43:39,199 commissioners and 2273 01:43:39,199 --> 01:43:40,159 a great meeting. 2274 01:43:40,159 --> 01:43:42,790 >> I I forgot to mention um according to my 2275 01:43:42,790 --> 01:43:42,800 » I I forgot to mention um according to my 2276 01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:48,070 calendar Monday the 21st is Yam Kapoor 2277 01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:49,040 » Yam Kapoor. 2278 01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:51,109 >> Yeah. Do we want to reschedule the 2279 01:43:51,109 --> 01:43:51,119 » Yeah. Do we want to reschedule the 2280 01:43:51,119 --> 01:43:53,119 finance committee meeting? I'm fine with 2281 01:43:53,119 --> 01:43:59,669 that if if it's a 2282 01:43:59,679 --> 01:44:01,600 » just want to make sure that we're not uh 2283 01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:04,880 violating anybody's religious freedoms. 2284 01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:07,270 >> So, we're good with that. 2285 01:44:07,270 --> 01:44:07,280 » So, we're good with that. 2286 01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:11,119 Okay, we will proceed then and uh hope 2287 01:44:11,119 --> 01:44:13,920 to see you in September. 2288 01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:16,920 Goodbye.