1 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,960 here. >> Commissioner Green 2 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,960 » here. 3 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:25,840 » I do. >> Commissioner McKenzie 4 00:00:25,119 --> 00:00:27,119 » here. >> Commissioner Ples 5 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,679 » here. >> Commissioner Riley 6 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,199 » here. Commissioner Taylor >> here. 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,920 » Commissioner Vigil >> here. 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:37,280 » And I am here as well. >> All right. 9 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:40,079 » And just a reminder everyone, when you're ready to speak, make sure you're 10 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:43,520 pushing on your mic so that everyone can hear you. I have a couple of 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:47,440 announcements, but before we get to that, first I'd like to welcome Ann 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:50,440 Condan, who is our new commissioner from Helsburg. 13 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:56,960 Ann, we're going to put you on the spot. Would you like to take a couple minutes 14 00:00:54,879 --> 00:01:02,399 to introduce yourself and tell us about your interest in the library. 15 00:01:01,199 --> 00:01:08,960 » There you go. >> Oh, thank you. Okay. Uh yes. So, um I'm 16 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:12,400 retired now and so I was looking to do something with the library. I was hoping 17 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:19,200 to be able to do something at the library and I uh a friend actually 18 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:22,960 pointed this the um posting out to me. So, I said, "Oh, that looks that looks 19 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:29,439 interesting. Looks good. Able to contribute a little bit." So, uh, I 20 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:33,920 ended up applying and so I, like I think I said, I I'm retired now, but, um, and 21 00:01:31,759 --> 00:01:38,320 I do have a master, my master's degree in library science, and I did work as a 22 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:44,400 librarian at the Columbia High School for 10 years, but that was like quite a 23 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:49,680 while ago. So, uh, in the meantime, I've been working as a business systems 24 00:01:46,399 --> 00:01:54,960 analyst. Um, so, and then that's that's what I retired from. But I'm just I've 25 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:59,520 met a number of people. I attended the friends at the library at Hilsburg 26 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:08,759 yesterday and I just everyone has been very welcoming and very nice and very 27 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:08,759 um informative. So thanks to everyone. 28 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:17,120 » Welcome. >> Okay, a couple other announcements. 29 00:02:14,879 --> 00:02:21,200 I want to appreciate Tina Poles for stepping into our new foundation 30 00:02:18,959 --> 00:02:27,360 leazison role. Thank you to Eve who has served in that role so capably. Uh and 31 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:31,120 Tina will now be stepping in to do that. >> Wow. Great. 32 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:34,080 » Yep. Um I also want to announce that I'm going to be forming another ad hoc 33 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:37,599 committee. This one will be to review our bylaws. It's been almost 5 years 34 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:41,519 since we've had those reviewed. So it's about time for us to do that. So if you 35 00:02:39,599 --> 00:02:44,800 have any interest in serving on a bylaws ad hoc committee, please go ahead and 36 00:02:42,959 --> 00:02:51,011 send me an email. Um, I'm taking volunteers before I have to volunte. 37 00:02:48,991 --> 00:02:51,011 [laughter] 38 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,200 All right. Are there any other announcements? 39 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:05,120 Okay, seeing none, uh, we are going to move on to public comments. Does anybody 40 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:09,920 have any public comments? Anything online? All right, moving on. 41 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:14,599 We have no presentations, so we are moving on to library reports. Director 42 00:03:11,599 --> 00:03:14,599 Tibo. 43 00:03:18,159 --> 00:03:23,440 Um, first of all, I want to thank all the commissioners who were able to make 44 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:28,640 it to the ribbon cutting ceremony for the Rinken Valley Library. Um, if you 45 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:33,519 have not yet seen it, please do visit. Um, it is lovely and I know that the 46 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:38,959 community really appreciates the newly reimagined space. Um, and other 47 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:45,599 announcements, uh, we are closing on Friday on our headquarters, uh, building 48 00:03:42,159 --> 00:03:51,200 in Paluma. Uh, Clint will be going over, uh, going down there to pick up keys and 49 00:03:48,159 --> 00:03:55,040 fobs, and we're working with the seller on the, uh, existing contracts for the 50 00:03:53,440 --> 00:04:00,799 building. Some of those we're probably going to keep, um, while we're in 51 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:06,480 transition. Um, and, uh, you know, everything's just coming along quite 52 00:04:02,879 --> 00:04:06,480 smoothly with that. So, 53 00:04:06,879 --> 00:04:13,680 Does anybody have any questions for Dr. Tibot? 54 00:04:10,959 --> 00:04:17,680 Commissioner Polls, >> this is such great news. So, thank you 55 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:23,360 so much. Um, quick question. Do we have a a date when this lease will end? When 56 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:27,840 we'll only have one liability. >> So, that's a good question. So, our 57 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:33,840 current lease our current lease expires at the end of this month, and I have 58 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:39,280 been trying to get the landlord to uh to renegotiate for a one-year lease. Um, we 59 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:43,520 sent a proposal over probably about a month ago, and we're waiting for some 60 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:49,199 kind of response. Um, we will have something um by the end of the month 61 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:55,199 and then it would expire then that one-year extension would expire um 62 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:59,919 September 30th, 2027. and our architects um that we are working with. Um we are 63 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:04,400 hoping to have all of the improvements done so that we can move in to the new 64 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:07,400 building on October by October 1st of 2027. 65 00:05:08,479 --> 00:05:15,880 Any other questions for director? Okay, thank you so much. 66 00:05:15,919 --> 00:05:23,440 » Okay, moving on to budget and finance reports. 67 00:05:20,639 --> 00:05:30,440 MNA. Does anyone have any questions for MNA about the fiscal 2526 year end 68 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,440 unodudited financials? 69 00:05:30,479 --> 00:05:34,560 » Do you have anything to add to your report? 70 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:41,120 » Um yes, just one thing is is that nor uh 71 00:05:37,919 --> 00:05:49,560 every month you do receive a a fund balance report in the statement of u 72 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:49,560 special fund activity. Uh during 73 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,720 Any 74 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,080 questions for MNA? 75 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:33,759 Okay, thank you very much. Why don't you just stay and we'll roll into the next 76 00:06:31,199 --> 00:06:38,639 item. 6.2.2 update on the bond sale 2026. 77 00:06:35,039 --> 00:06:46,639 » Yes. Um, as you are aware, the bond sale took place on Thursday, uh, August 13th. 78 00:06:42,479 --> 00:06:50,479 It was a very successful, um, event, uh, for the library. Number one, it was the 79 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:56,400 first time in its history that the library has uh issued a revenue bond um 80 00:06:54,639 --> 00:07:03,599 issuance um for a a very good cause to purchase 81 00:06:59,919 --> 00:07:10,400 the operation center in Pedaluma. Um what had what helped in the 82 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:19,039 successful closing of um of this bond issuance was that the library received a 83 00:07:15,039 --> 00:07:27,120 d um double a plus credit rating by standard and pores ratings and uh it is 84 00:07:23,039 --> 00:07:36,639 better than we expected. uh they noted that uh the strong uh management and 85 00:07:32,479 --> 00:07:42,880 fiscal policies that are in place and just wanted to share that good news that 86 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:49,360 it just underscores uh the good work that the finance committee that the full 87 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:56,160 commission has uh done over the last several years to put things in order. 88 00:07:52,639 --> 00:08:02,240 And um so I just wanted to mention that and and thank you all for for partnering 89 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:06,720 with with us and management to to uh secure this this uh double A+ credit 90 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:10,319 rating. >> Congratulations. Incredible. Does 91 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,800 anybody have any questions or comments? Oh, we got a bunch. Okay, we've got 92 00:08:11,599 --> 00:08:18,960 Commissioner McKenzie and then Commissioner Goldberg. Just wanted to 93 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:25,680 comment um this was just a great impressive performance by our management 94 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:29,680 team in particular and this the doublea bond rating as uh Marina would just 95 00:08:27,759 --> 00:08:35,120 pointed out was kind of unexpectedly high but also the benefit of that is 96 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:40,560 that the the crossover period we were told going into this it would probably 97 00:08:37,279 --> 00:08:46,080 be about year six when it would cost less to buy than it does to rent. And 98 00:08:43,599 --> 00:08:51,200 because the financials are so strong, the credit rating was so high and it was 99 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:56,720 it's only going to be four years now. So it's a very very impressive that for 26 100 00:08:54,160 --> 00:09:00,560 years we'll be paying less than we would be in rent to buy this building. So I 101 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:08,000 just wanted to point that out. Again, kudos to our leadership for the great 102 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:11,760 job that they did on this bond sale. >> Commissioner Goldberg. Thank you. Yeah, 103 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:16,560 like Barbara, I don't actually have a question, but I just want to say great 104 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:24,959 job and um you know how it is. The commission makes 105 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:31,200 one hire. We have one employee and if I can't take credit for it, but the people 106 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:36,720 on before me who hired Erica and and and Erica has many hires to do, 107 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:43,120 but I don't know. Did you hire MNA? >> Ann did. Well, and did a good thing, so 108 00:09:39,839 --> 00:09:48,251 good and >> you were on my hiring committee. 109 00:09:46,231 --> 00:09:48,251 [laughter] 110 00:09:53,680 --> 00:10:01,680 » Obviously, just echoing um both what Eve and Barbara said, I just it's so amazing 111 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:04,720 to work with you with the team and know that you feel in safe hands. The other 112 00:10:03,519 --> 00:10:09,200 thing that I think you did really well was especially on the finance committee 113 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:12,800 when we had bond experts come in and really explain it. It it that was 114 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:17,200 incredibly helpful. So I think you guys are also good about getting your 115 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:22,160 additional help to make very complicated decisions. So I also want to commend you 116 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:26,640 on that that I think bringing people in when it's an area you're not as solid in 117 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:30,560 as you guys do a really good job at that. It's very helpful for the 118 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:37,040 commissioners to feel like we're getting really good solid information to make 119 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:42,320 decisions from. So, thank you. >> Great job. 120 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:52,560 » Thank you. We we did uh uh secure municipal advisors in KN&N and bond uh 121 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:55,717 um legal bond um council. So, uh very important. [laughter] 122 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:02,240 Okay. Thank you so much. See there's one more. 123 00:11:00,399 --> 00:11:03,920 I think it's got Catherine's on it. Is it you? 124 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:08,079 » Oh, Catherine. >> Yeah. Okay, we're going to move on to 125 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:12,079 item 6.2.3, quarterly preparation transfers report. And uh I'm going to 126 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:15,320 note that Commissioner Hamzy is clear for that. 127 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:23,839 » Questions? There were no appropriations. >> Yeah. 128 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:27,440 » Anybody have any questions for Katherine about it? 129 00:11:25,839 --> 00:11:29,839 There was nothing on the appropriations transfer. So 130 00:11:28,079 --> 00:11:32,240 » there is no. Yes. >> Great. Thank you. 131 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,920 » Thank you. >> Okay. Do we Item number seven. Do we 132 00:11:34,079 --> 00:11:38,880 have any library advisory boards, Sonoma County Library Foundation or friends of 133 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:43,120 the library here who'd like to speak? Hello Joe. 134 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:46,000 Joe, would you mind introducing yourself and the branch the friends that you are 135 00:11:45,279 --> 00:11:50,399 representing? >> Hi, I'm Joe Seymour from the Friends of 136 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:55,839 Santa Rosa Library. So we represent all of the branches in Santa Rosa. And just 137 00:11:53,279 --> 00:12:00,160 a quick announcement that uh Julia FZ and I swapped positions. She is now the 138 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:04,880 vice president and I am the president. And we will have a new treasurer soon 139 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:09,600 named Jim Dow. And we hope to see you all at our 140 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:14,560 October sale. Any questions for me? >> But if you come to the central library 141 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:18,320 at 10:00 on the day of the of the sale, you can't find parking. [laughter] 142 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:22,720 There's a line down the block to get into the library. 143 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:27,160 Well, our next sale is at the Veterans Building and there's plenty of free 144 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,160 parking. 145 00:12:27,519 --> 00:12:33,600 » Congratulations on your promotion. [laughter] 146 00:12:31,279 --> 00:12:37,200 » Okay, moving on to the consent calendar. Item number eight. These matters include 147 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:40,639 routine financial and administrative actions that may be approved by 148 00:12:38,560 --> 00:12:43,519 consensus. Any commission member or member of the public may request that an 149 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:46,399 item be removed from the consent calendar and have it placed for the 150 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:50,639 action items. The commission will approve the minutes of the prior 151 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:55,760 meetings in summary format. Any questions on the consent calendar? 152 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:58,800 » I move um adoption of the consent calendar. 153 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:03,839 » All right. Do we have any public comment? 154 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:08,720 » All righty. Commissioner Condom. >> You voted yes or no. 155 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,240 » Vote. >> Commissioner Goldberg. 156 00:13:09,839 --> 00:13:11,519 » Yes. >> Commissioner Green. 157 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:12,800 » Yes. >> Commissioner Hamsey, 158 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,240 » yes. >> Commissioner McKenzie, 159 00:13:13,839 --> 00:13:17,279 » yes. >> Commissioner Ples, yes. 160 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:19,040 » Commissioner Riley, >> yes. Commissioner Taylor, 161 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,200 » yes. >> Commissioner Vigil, 162 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:26,480 » yes. >> And I will make it unanimous. Thank you. 163 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:31,519 » Okay. Moving into action items by motion. Item number 9.1, we have an 164 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:36,639 amendment to the fiscal year 2526 budget. 165 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:40,560 MNA, you're back up. >> You have anything to add to your report, 166 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:47,200 MNA? This is the item that I uh mentioned in 167 00:13:44,399 --> 00:13:53,760 the earlier that uh we're making adjustment budget adjustments uh as 168 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:58,279 we're reconciling our capital fun. >> Any questions for MNA on this item? 169 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:05,279 Any public comment? May I have a motion? 170 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,800 » Motion to approve. >> Is there a second? 171 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:10,720 » Second. >> Thank you. Okay. Okay, roll call vote. 172 00:14:09,279 --> 00:14:12,399 Commissioner Condan, >> yes. 173 00:14:11,279 --> 00:14:13,920 » Commissioner Goldberg, >> yes. 174 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,440 » Commissioner Green, >> yes. 175 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,880 » Commissioner Hamsey, >> yes. 176 00:14:15,839 --> 00:14:18,720 » Commissioner McKenzie, >> yes. 177 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,160 » Commissioner Ples, >> yes. 178 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,519 » Commissioner Riley, >> yes. 179 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,880 » Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. 180 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:26,720 » Commissioner Vigil, >> yes. 181 00:14:23,199 --> 00:14:31,920 » I will make it unanimous. >> I mean, we're good. 182 00:14:29,199 --> 00:14:35,360 » Our meetings aren't usually this smooth. >> Don't jinx us. Wait, wait till we get to 183 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:43,839 labor negotiations. >> Good for chasing us. Okay. [laughter] 184 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:49,279 Item 9.2, approval of COY live scan management and use policy. Suzanne, do 185 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:52,160 you have anything to add to your report? >> No, I do not. 186 00:14:50,399 --> 00:14:55,399 » Okay. Does anybody have any questions for Suzanne? 187 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:03,120 » Commissioner Taylor, >> do we Excuse me. Do we know yet who is 188 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:10,360 going to be appointed CR? Um, 189 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:10,360 actually I am the co. Yes, there we go. 190 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,320 » Anybody else? Commissioner Green, did you have a question? 191 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:19,040 » No, I just was ready to make a motion. If we're ready to approve, 192 00:15:16,079 --> 00:15:23,279 » do we have any public comment? I'll take your motion. Do we have a 193 00:15:21,519 --> 00:15:27,519 second? >> Second. 194 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,800 » Okay. Commissioner Condan. >> Commissioner Goldberg. 195 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,160 » Yes. >> Commissioner Green? 196 00:15:29,839 --> 00:15:32,560 » Yes. >> Commissioner Hamsey? 197 00:15:31,199 --> 00:15:34,160 » Yes. Yes. Commissioner McKenzie, >> yes. 198 00:15:32,959 --> 00:15:35,839 » Commissioner Ples, >> yes. 199 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,920 » Commissioner Riley, >> yes. 200 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,279 » Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. 201 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,680 » Commissioner Vigil, >> yes. 202 00:15:39,519 --> 00:15:45,680 » And I'll make it unanimous. Thank you, Suzanne. 203 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:50,000 » Moving on to item 9.3, authorizing the execution of agreements and purchasing 204 00:15:47,279 --> 00:15:53,920 amounts for the Rosland Library Project. Clint, do you have anything to add to 205 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:58,920 your report? >> All right. Does anybody have any 206 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,920 questions for Clint? 207 00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:09,759 All right. Any public comment? I will take a motion. 208 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:12,320 Okay, we have a motion and a second. >> Second. 209 00:16:10,399 --> 00:16:14,000 » Thank you very much. >> Commissioner Condan, 210 00:16:13,519 --> 00:16:17,360 » yes. >> Commissioner Goldberg, 211 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,720 » yes. Commissioner Green, >> yes. 212 00:16:17,759 --> 00:16:20,079 » Commissioner Hamsey, >> yes. 213 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,920 » Commissioner McKenzie, >> yes. 214 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,600 » Commissioner BS, >> yes. 215 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,959 » Commissioner Riley, >> yes. 216 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,639 » Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. 217 00:16:25,279 --> 00:16:30,480 » Commissioner Vigil, >> yes. 218 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:33,680 » And I will make it unanimous. Moving on to item 9.4. 219 00:16:32,991 --> 00:16:37,199 [laughter] You don't really want to be on. 220 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:41,440 » What else? >> Comprehensive operational and 221 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:45,600 organizational analysis. Darra, do you have anything to add to your report? 222 00:16:43,759 --> 00:16:49,920 » I don't have anything to add, but happy to take questions. 223 00:16:47,519 --> 00:16:55,040 Commissioner McKenzie. >> Yes, thank you. Um, this was something 224 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:59,279 that the commission has talked about for ages and ages. I'm really really happy 225 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:05,120 to see that you've got this organized. It's going to be professionally done. Um 226 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:09,120 I was uh just I be wondering about accommodations given the fact that Roner 227 00:17:07,199 --> 00:17:16,079 Park's going to be closed during that first era of you know of the analysis 228 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:23,120 and visiting libraries on site. And I also um wanted 229 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:28,720 to ask about um 230 00:17:24,959 --> 00:17:33,039 on page 67 it talks about uh the practical approach grounded in data and 231 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:36,799 the practical experience of employees and performing the work. I was wondering 232 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:40,320 I didn't I don't think I saw anything hidden here about considerations of the 233 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:43,919 size and the layout of the different facilities because they vary so much and 234 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:49,679 I wonder if you could maybe comment on that. And then I had a third one, a 235 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:54,080 third question. Um, and I I hesitate to ask this because I'm sure it'll be no, 236 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:58,400 but is there any role the commissioners are going to have at all in this? I only 237 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:03,840 bring it up just in kind of in terms of maybe observations that we have made 238 00:18:00,559 --> 00:18:09,520 over time of whether there might be some feedback that we might you know offer in 239 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:13,207 terms of you know when the the professionals are you know doing the 240 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:16,480 interviews and stuff like that. >> [clears throat] 241 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:21,039 » Okay. Um, so for Oh, I'll take them one at a time. Um, Ron Park with them being 242 00:18:19,039 --> 00:18:26,160 closed, that's being considered. It's already been uh talked about the fact 243 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:30,480 that they'll be in the visits after January. So once they're reopened, we'll 244 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:35,360 be able to assess them in the same way we do the other locations. And I also 245 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:40,400 want to add Sebastapole will also be done after it reopens as well. So those 246 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:44,480 two branches and we know they're very busy branches and so we made it very 247 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:48,640 clear to the consultant that we needed them to be evaluated when they were at 248 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:51,640 their full capacity not their reduced capacity. 249 00:18:51,679 --> 00:19:00,080 And in terms of size and variation um while not so much in their report um 250 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:05,280 it's it was discussed and that is something that is so unique to each 251 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:12,240 place. It's kind of a casebyase basis. Does that make sense for 252 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:16,880 And um in terms of uh the commissioners, we haven't even had that discussion. So 253 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:22,000 so much is relying on today and approval before we go back and really have 254 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:28,200 conversations about planning. Um but I don't see why they couldn't be part of a 255 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:28,200 focus group or something to that effect. 256 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:38,320 » Just back to the facilities just briefly. Um 257 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:42,160 obviously like a bigger library takes you know more staff to just you know 258 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:46,080 cover the space and everything. So are you're saying that they're going to 259 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:49,679 after their visits they'll be able to they'll include that in there. So it's 260 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:53,440 not just going to be based on circulation and all that kind of stuff 261 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:56,799 that physical space is definitely going to be part of the consideration. 262 00:19:54,799 --> 00:20:02,080 » Certainly uh physical space is going to be part of that study uh along with 263 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:08,000 community um analytics that they'll be running as well. There is a in their 264 00:20:04,799 --> 00:20:13,360 examples um while it was a different uh area of focus they worked with um San 265 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:20,080 Francisco it was to assess uh best times to be open but even in that report 266 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:27,039 there's some consideration for location size and that count is so much dependent 267 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:30,880 on what the facility can actually allow. Thank you. 268 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:34,400 » Okay. I saw we have Commissioner Green, Commissioner Hamsey and Commissioner 269 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:43,120 Just a quick comment uh how much I appreciate the clarity about uh our same 270 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:50,039 open hours throughout the system. That was my only concern and I think this 271 00:20:45,919 --> 00:20:50,039 information is going to be very helpful. 272 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:55,360 » Hi. Um I'd be curious about what the folks who are engaging with the 273 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:59,039 scheduling on like a daily basis maybe think about this coming up. Is it 274 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:02,400 something that might be feeling like they're evaluated in like a negative way 275 00:21:00,799 --> 00:21:06,880 or how are they being approached? >> That was one reason we chose the group 276 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:12,960 we went with. Um they're very much looking at it as working together with 277 00:21:10,159 --> 00:21:19,440 our staff to develop tools that will make it easier for everyone um 278 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:23,120 regardless of position to understand how we arrive at the expectations based on 279 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:28,400 the facility, based on the staffing, based on the community needs. Um so 280 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:36,080 they'll they we want them to feel like they are part of this. Um and there will 281 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:41,679 be discussions and um ruling it out and um we'll work tight closely I think with 282 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:47,280 this group to make sure that no one feels um scrutinized in any way. 283 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:52,000 » Um do you know how we might be doing that? Like is it a an open discussion 284 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:57,440 with folks a survey or >> Yes. So, as they are located at the 285 00:21:54,960 --> 00:22:03,760 different locations, they'll really be there like observing tell um whether I'm 286 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:07,200 trying to think of an example to make it more clear, but if they're at the 287 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:12,320 circulation desk really just hanging out talking to people, uh getting a feel for 288 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:18,960 is this a typical day? You know, what are the highs and lows? What what drives 289 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:23,600 uh some of your uh patrons in and out of the building depending on location 290 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:29,679 perhaps? So the it will really be a chance for staff to talk a lot about 291 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:37,039 themselves and their positions and um that will really lead to uh better 292 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:41,840 informing us of how we're doing as management as well. So that's that's the 293 00:22:39,679 --> 00:22:48,159 goal. We want it to work on all levels. We want tools and uh we want to make 294 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:55,120 sure we're we're hitting the community needs and uh it will also give staff um 295 00:22:53,280 --> 00:23:01,159 I think it'll be beneficial to staff to have some planning and seeing how that 296 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,159 process goes. 297 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:08,640 » Commissioner FS first. Um I know this is you're looking at this 298 00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:11,760 will look at what's happening currently and you're also looking into future 299 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:17,120 future >> proposals or future thoughts. How long 300 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:20,960 does usually that is valid? Is it five years, three years? I mean how long do 301 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,840 you really have to do this again? I guess is 302 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:30,559 » I I would say a lot longer than that once in place. Um the situ for us it's 303 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:36,559 very we're a unique organization. um we were several um individual libraries 304 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:42,640 with different habits and procedures at each location that came together as a 305 00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:50,480 JPA. So it's very contractual initially and as we've grown we've become more of 306 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:55,520 a library system and we're wanting to evaluate and make because we're we're 307 00:23:53,760 --> 00:24:04,480 doing different things across our locations and we want to create metrics 308 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:08,080 and uniformity and we'll be really comparing ourselves also to other 309 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:13,200 libraries and their processes and procedures. So once in place, unless we 310 00:24:10,159 --> 00:24:17,520 had a another doubling of um employees or something like that, um I don't 311 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:23,039 anticipate it would really have to be re-evaluated outside of the library 312 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:27,600 system. I think then administration and staff would be able to do it in house. 313 00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:31,520 » Sure. >> Vigil and then Commissioner McKenzie. 314 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,640 » So you excuse me, we talk about the tools that they're going to provide. 315 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:40,080 What what are those going to look like? of that software and and and in that 316 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:47,200 context uh do I've been out of libraries for a while. Uh do is there anything 317 00:24:44,159 --> 00:24:50,559 available like CRM or ERP for for libraries that seems to me would have 318 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:55,279 been doing all this sort of thing already tracking 319 00:24:53,919 --> 00:24:59,760 » I don't know the accuracy >> ERP is enterprise resource planning and 320 00:24:57,360 --> 00:25:01,520 CRM is customer relationship management. >> Okay. 321 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:06,080 » Yeah. All the corporations use those kinds of things and they pretty much 322 00:25:03,679 --> 00:25:10,159 have a real handle on what everybody's doing and how efficient they are and so 323 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,960 forth. Is something like that available for libraries 324 00:25:11,679 --> 00:25:15,600 » or they're going to provide something like that for us with at the end of 325 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:20,720 this? >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, 326 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:26,720 » without exactly what you're speaking to as far as tools. Um, no, this is 327 00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:33,600 » I would say more of an overall assessment of operations. So, as far as 328 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:37,840 tools we use, we probably already have a lot of the tools we use. For instance, 329 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:42,400 um, library IQ, if we're looking at stats. 330 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:48,320 So, it would be things that we already have, but we'd be just looking at our 331 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:53,200 operations and how we use the tools after assessing 332 00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:57,600 a bigger picture. >> I guess well, I think so. I mean to 333 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,360 answer your question directly, we don't actually use any of those tools 334 00:25:58,799 --> 00:26:03,120 currently. >> Okay. 335 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:07,039 » Um we're kind of a um you know, we're a we're an organization that is maturing, 336 00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:10,880 but it really lacks a lot of the infrastructure that it needs in order to 337 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:15,200 be more successful. And that's one of the reasons why we wanted to do this. Um 338 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:18,240 they I mean one of the things that they're going to be looking at is like 339 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:21,200 scheduling practices across the system because every branch schedules 340 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:26,960 differently. and they might come up with a set of recommendations that could be 341 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:31,440 um implemented systemwide about how to schedule. Um looking at things like the 342 00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:36,880 busiest days, the number of hours that they're open, um you know, programming 343 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:43,919 needs and and really scheduling based upon those kinds of issues. Um you know, 344 00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:48,480 we it'll be very interesting to to us to see what they come up with. Um but 345 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:52,799 really you know providing the branch managers with tools to help them guide 346 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:56,000 their decision- making um will be very helpful and it will be very helpful for 347 00:26:54,559 --> 00:27:00,080 us to kind of have a better understanding of what happens day-to-day 348 00:26:58,159 --> 00:27:04,880 at some of our branches. Um we already know that with the heels or with the um 349 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:08,080 Sebast closure and the Roner Park closure, you know, staff are being 350 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:13,760 reassigned other locations and we're hearing informally that um they are 351 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:18,080 learning things um among them that some locations are more efficient than others 352 00:27:15,919 --> 00:27:22,799 and so really looking for those best practices. uh what we what can we learn 353 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:27,360 from one branch that we can take to the other branches um to kind of you know 354 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:31,440 streamline things and make them a little bit more um efficient. I mean in the 355 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:34,960 broader context of where where the question was going from from my 356 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:40,400 perspective is that it won't be very long before a AI will be coming in and 357 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:46,799 doing these kinds of things and and how are we going to interface that 358 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:53,200 » I don't know that when you have a human- centered organization that AI is going 359 00:27:49,039 --> 00:28:01,440 to come in and help uh look at workplace analysis. Um I think that from the 360 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:06,640 operations and procedures it's still um for a long time to operate well okay 361 00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:10,799 » it's going to be human- centered especially 362 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:14,159 public libraries I mean that that is what we are is public service and I 363 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:20,399 don't see >> I I I have not yet experienced AI um 364 00:28:18,159 --> 00:28:25,279 coming into play where I have thought wow this is better customer service as 365 00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:25,279 of 366 00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:31,360 Thanks, >> Commissioner McKenzie. 367 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:36,080 » Thank you. Um, a little bit of silver lining it sounds like with the closures 368 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:40,480 and the this staff learning either, you know, that's really kind of interesting. 369 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:43,520 Um, my question specifically is about programming and I know when I read 370 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:47,760 through this there's, you know, there's like how much time do you spend on 371 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:51,760 programming kind of analysis, but um, I've never quite understood how we do 372 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:55,279 programming either. There seemed to be some systemwide programming and then 373 00:28:53,520 --> 00:29:01,840 some individual branch programming and then and that makes a lot of difference 374 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:05,679 whether the it's you know like the uh children you know like the baby reading 375 00:29:03,679 --> 00:29:08,720 time which is kind of consistent the same person comes in and you know takes 376 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:12,480 kind of takes care of everything when you have outside programming like you 377 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:16,559 have the symphony come in you know it's kind of really different in terms of 378 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:21,760 introductions and you know the staff demands are different and um you know 379 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:27,440 I'm just is that gonna get to that level or is that going to be a separate study? 380 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:32,399 » So, surprising that you ask that. Um, we just received the benchmark assessment 381 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:37,840 from the Ivy group which was phase two of the strategic plan and um we will be 382 00:29:35,679 --> 00:29:42,880 including that in your um October meeting packet. But one of the things 383 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:47,039 that they um noted was that we actually provide a high level of programming. We 384 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:51,360 provide more programs than branches that are very similar in size to us. But the 385 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:54,799 attendance at our programs is not as high as it could be. So one of the 386 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:59,200 things we will be we will be providing the consultants with all the information 387 00:29:56,799 --> 00:30:04,080 that we received on the strategic plan and we may end up deciding that we want 388 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:08,720 to look at our programming and see what programs are not successful and figure 389 00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:14,159 out if they need to be tweaked or retoled or if they need to be sunsetted. 390 00:30:11,919 --> 00:30:18,720 So that will be one of the things that you know we will at the end of this 391 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:23,679 process um we hope to have some recommendations to see you know how are 392 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:28,000 we spending our time is it a good use of our time could we be doing other things 393 00:30:26,399 --> 00:30:31,679 um that are more impactful those are really what we're hoping to get out of 394 00:30:29,679 --> 00:30:37,200 this >> let me just follow up the question so so 395 00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:40,960 when this study is done will we 396 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,039 know more about the programming thing or is that going to be kind going to 397 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:47,120 separate after the >> I'm not sure that it will be specific on 398 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:52,480 the programming, but I think we will have data. We will have data that we can 399 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:56,000 use to evaluate our programming and whether or not it is, you know, 400 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,200 accomplishing what we want it to accomplish. 401 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,840 » So, as a person who's going to lot a lot of programming in our library, that when 402 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,919 I was talking about the commissioner input, that's something I would like to 403 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:10,480 offer some observations if that would be helpful. 404 00:31:08,399 --> 00:31:14,960 » Commissioner Pulse. Um, the other question I have is I'm hearing about 405 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:19,440 looking at things that potentially could be more efficient 406 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:22,880 um, systemwide and totally agree with that, but I'm thinking about one of our 407 00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:27,120 focuses that came out of the Ivy Group, which is about being hyper local. And so 408 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:32,960 I'm just wondering how we're going to balance that focus of hyper local, which 409 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:36,559 implies each individual branch having its localess or lack of a better word, 410 00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:41,360 whatever that is. And how are we going to balance those two things which can be 411 00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:45,039 in direct you know what what is perceived as systemwide useful versus 412 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:49,840 » well and that's why we'll be doing the analytics for each individual community 413 00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:55,679 because what we might discover is um programming that's really popular at 414 00:31:52,320 --> 00:32:01,039 Central doesn't go well at Roner Park and that the audiences are different and 415 00:31:57,919 --> 00:32:07,919 the demographics are different. So, it will stay um geared to meet all those 416 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:14,320 community needs, but it will still give us an overall assessment for the 417 00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:18,640 organization, but also those tools we can point to to say this is why we're 418 00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:22,720 structuring things this way. >> And I can think of for an example, a 419 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:28,000 tool that we might develop would be a criteria for evaluating program 420 00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:32,000 effectiveness. Um, and that would not be specific. I mean, that would be a tool 421 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:36,320 that could be used systemwide, but we could use it at each location to 422 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:41,120 determine if the programming is meeting the needs of the community. So, that 423 00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:48,640 would be like one tangible outcome that we might have as a result of this. 424 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:55,120 Any other questions? Any public comment? 425 00:32:51,919 --> 00:33:02,799 All right. Is there a motion? Oh. Uh move to approve this motion and 426 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:06,960 get this going. >> Seconded. 427 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,240 » We'll do a roll call vote. Commissioner Condan, 428 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,600 » yes. >> Commissioner Goldberg, 429 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,880 » yes. >> Commissioner Green, 430 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,240 » yes. >> Commissioner Hamzah, 431 00:33:11,919 --> 00:33:13,600 » yes. >> Commissioner McKenzie, 432 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,200 » yes. >> Commissioner Polls, 433 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,640 » yes. >> Commissioner Riley, 434 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,919 » yes. >> Commissioner Taylor, 435 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,039 » yes. >> Commissioner Vigil, 436 00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:22,960 » yes. >> And I'll make it unanimous. Thank you 437 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:28,080 very much. Moving on to item 9.5, budget adjustment 438 00:33:25,679 --> 00:33:34,000 in fiscal year 27 for revenue bond series 2026 and acquisition of 1400 439 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:38,039 North McDow Boulevard Pedaluma. MNA, do you have anything to add to your report? 440 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:50,640 No, the these are the accounting um entries that uh are required to 441 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:57,440 these are the accounting entries that are required to record the um the 442 00:33:54,240 --> 00:34:02,640 closing of the bond and the asset that we're acquiring. 443 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:07,600 » Any questions for MNA? >> Yeah. Visual available now to the 444 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:16,720 public. No, the bond issuance was uh completed. 445 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:24,800 It took place on August 13 and it closed um uh on the 27th of this no of August. 446 00:34:21,919 --> 00:34:29,119 Well, already September and and all the and all the proceeds were distributed. 447 00:34:27,919 --> 00:34:35,119 So, it's >> already they went retail already and 448 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:40,399 sold. Yes, they went public and went through that whole process. Yes. So, 449 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:47,040 it's actually it's very, you know, it is a complex process. That's why we hired 450 00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:52,879 KN&N, our municipal adviserss. They um they shepherd the whole process. They 451 00:34:49,440 --> 00:35:00,240 work with um brokers. So, they first have to post it um through a mediary 452 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:06,400 that that's where bonds are posted for the public to see. Um and then brokers 453 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:14,720 are are looking at that the eval they use the the our credit rating um they 454 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:21,920 research the library and um they and then in that public posting we say the 455 00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:28,560 pricing will take place on August 13. So there is um a system in place where 456 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:32,079 these brokers log in, they have an account, they log in, they submit their 457 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:36,400 proposal and we can see it happening on the 458 00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:41,920 screen when their proposals come in and we could see how much what their what 459 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:48,079 their proposal is and uh we received nine proposals 460 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:56,160 um and the I think the highest one was at 4.29% to 9% interest. Uh, and the 461 00:35:52,560 --> 00:36:04,280 lowest was the one we received at 4.04% interest and we went with that UBS was 462 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,280 um the winner. 463 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:11,359 Commissioner Goldberg, Peter, I don't know if you meant this, but I was going 464 00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:14,880 to ask, so I was telling my financial guy all 465 00:36:13,359 --> 00:36:18,720 about this exciting thing, and he said, "Well, you have a bond account. Do you 466 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:23,440 want to get in, you know, any of this? And I said, "None at all." You know, but 467 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:28,599 isn't that what you meant? Like the small public, you know, people 468 00:36:31,359 --> 00:36:35,599 » and I said, "Well, I don't know. I can't find it. I'll ask when I come through." 469 00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:39,359 But I maybe >> had a retail market 470 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:45,599 » people. >> Yeah. you could have 10 hours. 471 00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:53,520 » Well, I think it what what happens is that um this is posted and anyone so if 472 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:59,280 for example your institutions are members of a brokerage then that's how 473 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:03,520 they would access it. >> Yes. You also want to think about the 474 00:37:01,839 --> 00:37:07,200 reporting you're going to have to do and the 475 00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:11,440 » the conflict of interest you're going to have. 476 00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:15,599 » Yes. if you think about that. So, >> it 477 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:22,359 » any other questions? Okay. Any public comment? 478 00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:22,359 May I have a motion? 479 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,079 » We have a second. >> Second. 480 00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:29,440 » Thank you. Take a roll call vote. Commissioner Condan, 481 00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:30,720 » yes. >> Commissioner Goldberg, 482 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,160 » yes. >> Commissioner Green, 483 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,599 » yes. >> Commissioner Hamzah, 484 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,960 » yes. >> Commissioner McKenzie, 485 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,240 » yes. >> Commissioner Ples, 486 00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:38,400 » yes. >> Commissioner Riley, 487 00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:39,760 » yes. Commissioner Taylor, >> yes. 488 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,640 » Commissioner Vigil, >> yes. 489 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:47,280 » I will make it unanimous. >> All right. Item number 9.6, approval of 490 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:51,280 PSA with group for architecture for library operations center. Director 491 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:54,960 Tabau, do you have anything to add to your report? 492 00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:59,440 » Um, no. I just want to reiterate that um, you know, some of the financials 493 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:03,920 that you see in this document include a you know, a construction budget of about 494 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:08,720 3.2 million. Um, that is not the project budget. Um the project budget will 495 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:14,240 include this uh this amount. It will also include the ADA um assessment which 496 00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:18,079 we are actually engaged uh Bureau Veritas um who did all of our ADA 497 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:22,720 assessments for the facilities master plan. It will include moving costs. It 498 00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:29,680 will include permit fees. that will include some FFN um some other kind of 499 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:34,800 minor um expenses and we will be bringing a total project budget to you 500 00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:41,040 all um probably sometime late fall, November, December once our architect 501 00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:44,960 feels, you know, confident um in the in the budget. And so we will bring that 502 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:49,680 request to you um at the end of the of the calendar year um when we feel more 503 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:54,320 certain about what the costs will be. So, right now I'm just asking you to 504 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:59,280 approve the the um the project uh the the the budget for um the architectural 505 00:38:57,119 --> 00:39:03,520 services. >> Any questions? Commissioner McKenzie? 506 00:39:01,359 --> 00:39:07,920 » Yes. I just wanted to point out u as you pointed out in your report that it's 507 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:12,960 really nice to have had this already established relationship with this group 508 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:16,160 and they they know us and they you know our facilities. They've learned a lot 509 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:20,480 about what our priorities are and all that stuff. So, it was a nice smooth 510 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:28,079 transition into this and I fully support the contract. Thank you. 511 00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:33,920 » Any other questions or comments? Any public comment? 512 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:36,000 Is there a motion? >> So moved. 513 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,119 » Is there a second? >> All right. Thank you very much. Roll 514 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,560 call vote. Commissioner Condan, >> yes. 515 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,839 » Commissioner Goldberg, >> yes. 516 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,760 » Commissioner Green, >> yes. Commissioner Hamzah, 517 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,240 » yes. >> Commissioner McKenzie, 518 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,760 » yes. Commissioner Polls, >> yes. Commissioner Riley, 519 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,040 » yes. >> Commissioner Taylor, 520 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:50,640 » yes. >> Commissioner Vigil, 521 00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:55,359 » yes. >> We'll make it unanimous. 522 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:58,160 » Okay, moving on to item 11. Commissioner and Le on reports. Does anyone have 523 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:03,040 anything they'd like to add to their commissioner reports? Commissioner 524 00:39:59,839 --> 00:40:07,839 McKenzie and Commissioner Riley. I made a little tiny mistake on my 525 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:14,000 report. Uh the very last item on my report, the dates actually the 14th, and 526 00:40:11,359 --> 00:40:19,760 I I didn't have that's correct. And I also uh wanted to say I didn't do a big 527 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:25,440 blurb about history day, but we had a really uh very exciting history day. We 528 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:29,119 had a huge turnout, 140ome people, and this was a co-sponsored event, the first 529 00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:33,280 one I've been involved with where the library was co-sponsor with the Rener 530 00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:36,240 Park archives group and the Katy Historical Society. We had a just a 531 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:40,560 really good turnout. Was a really good experience. I really appreciate the 532 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:45,119 staff work on that. They were they were involved in the graphics design and it 533 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:49,599 was great. We had got the use of the room for free, the audio visual support 534 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:53,599 and all that. It was just a really good combination of people. I really uh 535 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:57,440 encourage anyone who wants to do an event with the Sonoma County Libraries 536 00:40:55,359 --> 00:41:02,800 that co-sponsor. It was very a very positive experience. And and lastly, I 537 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:09,280 have about 10 very cool bags left that have the cool History Day logo on it and 538 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:12,720 Tina is getting one of them. And anyway, I I have them in the car, so if you'd 539 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,800 like one, let me know. Thank you very much. 540 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:19,119 » Go to your car at the end of the meeting and maybe get something out of the 541 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:23,280 front. >> Any other updates? 542 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:28,079 Yeah, go ahead, Commissioner. >> Um, I just wanted to mention I didn't 543 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:31,520 submit a written report, so uh correcting my oversight now just to say 544 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:35,440 that this will be my last in-person meeting of the year. I will be missing 545 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:39,920 next month's meeting uh and joining remotely after that uh for very good 546 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:43,839 reasons. I have major surgery planned in October. I'm sad to miss everybody at 547 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:50,400 the staff day. Um I'm looking forward to catching that in 2027. Um uh this is 548 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:53,599 expected planned for uh this is gender related stuff. It is wonderful. It is 549 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:58,119 life affirming and um I just look forward to seeing you all on the other 550 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,119 side of it. 551 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:05,440 » Hope it goes well. Anybody else? 552 00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:09,280 Commissioner McKenzie, do you have anything to add to the finance committee 553 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:13,920 report? >> Uh, I tried to add more verbiage this 554 00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:19,040 time like I did last time. It's more than action minutes. I wanted to spell 555 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:23,599 out how impressive the bond sale was and the work that went into it. And um, 556 00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:29,359 other than that, I hope everybody reads it. And uh, again, congratulations our 557 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:32,640 leadership team. Okay. Commissioner Green, do you have 558 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,520 anything to add to the Snow County Historic Records? 559 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:39,359 » I do not. >> Goldberg, do you have anything to add to 560 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:44,160 your last foundation leazison report? >> Nope. 561 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:48,319 » I'm shedding these skins. Thank you. 562 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:52,520 » I love it. Okay. Are there any agenda items for future commission meetings? 563 00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:56,240 » Oh. Uh, Commissioner Mackenzie, did you have anything to add for the report? I 564 00:42:55,359 --> 00:42:58,560 missed that. >> Yes, 565 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:01,839 » there is no report. I didn't submit a written report for the measure Y 566 00:43:00,319 --> 00:43:06,480 committee. I never think that I need to do that, but I would like to report just 567 00:43:03,839 --> 00:43:12,079 briefly on the measure Y committee. Um the um I do a report in case someone 568 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:16,400 else takes over this liaison at some point in time. Uh it's kind of focused 569 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:21,359 on the commissioner's report and I so I updated everybody about Rinka Valley 570 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:25,520 being back open and great use of measure Y money. Uh that RER park is going to be 571 00:43:23,839 --> 00:43:29,440 closed. talked about the bond sale and the great 572 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:33,520 job everybody did on that and that there were four new commissioners on our on 573 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:37,200 our commission. Um, one of the things that comes out of that then is the 574 00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:42,480 direct the way the measure wide committee is set up is that as you know 575 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:47,520 as commissioners we appoint our person to be to to be on the the measure wide 576 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:52,000 committee. So there were two people on the measure wide committee who have just 577 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:55,920 done a ton of work. Mike Neely from Windsor and Janice Brokoff from Runner 578 00:43:54,480 --> 00:44:00,960 Park and they have been on that committee since day one. Um anyway, I 579 00:43:59,359 --> 00:44:06,240 got the meeting looking around. Where's Mike Neely? Well, because Deborah Doyle 580 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:10,960 is no longer in the commission. Mike's gone. And it just it's kind of just like 581 00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:15,359 you just drop into this, you know, vacuum, you know, you just disappear. 582 00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:19,119 And so it seems wrong somehow the people who have done so much work for them. So 583 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:23,280 anyway, we talked about that at the end of the meeting and I think uh these two 584 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:27,520 folks at least these two folks will be called back and invited to uh you know 585 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:32,079 at least thanked and acknowledged for the work that they have done. So it is 586 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:35,760 just kind of a quirk uh and so all of you who are who are brand new and I'm 587 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:41,520 assuming either have appointed or will will be appointing your your new um 588 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:45,040 person for the measure Y committee. It's a pretty steep learning curve and um 589 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:48,880 there's a lot you have to learn the reports and all that stuff and it just 590 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:52,160 meets I think it's quarterly. So, a couple of the people I've talked 591 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:55,520 to on there go, you know, it's kind of hard to, you know, start from zero and 592 00:44:54,319 --> 00:44:59,760 then, you know, know what we're doing here. And um so anyway, it's just it's 593 00:44:58,319 --> 00:45:04,160 an interest committee. It's important committee. Um they made the point that 594 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:09,599 since we have this great, you know, allocation formula that um our CFO came 595 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:14,720 up with a few years ago. The questions about how how measure Y money are spent 596 00:45:12,319 --> 00:45:20,800 are not nearly as, you know, as frequent. it's much more formulated and 597 00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:25,680 you know and clear which is all you know great but anyway just I wanted to to 598 00:45:23,359 --> 00:45:31,280 point that out in terms of the measure Y committee that these are volunteers and 599 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:36,640 um come in and look over the reports and go home but I they're they're engaged 600 00:45:33,359 --> 00:45:40,960 for important reason um I'm not sure about the um it's just the role has 601 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:44,560 changed I would say over the last number of years so I anyway I just want to 602 00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:48,160 point that out and I'll see if there were any questions 603 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:51,680 Commissioner Fos and then Fisher Vigil. >> Um 604 00:45:49,839 --> 00:45:56,720 if like just using that example of Windsor and Debbie leaving, couldn't the 605 00:45:54,079 --> 00:46:01,599 new Windsor commissioner appoint that person back in? 606 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:07,200 » They can. They have to reapply. I think there's a certain uh sense of things 607 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:11,440 ending at least with with Janice and and Mike. Um you know, but but no, they 608 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:15,680 definitely can't be reappointed. >> What do you mean re I think they apply. 609 00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:21,400 You just appoint them. >> Well, they have to tell you that they're 610 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,400 interested or you go find somebody 611 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:28,319 » wanted to be reappointed. I'm sure he could go to the to the new WSOR 612 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,839 commissioner and say, "Peter, would you please reappoint me?" 613 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,119 » Commissioner Vigil. >> Yeah. So, the measure Y comm is new to 614 00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:41,599 me. So the measure the measure Y committee that I mean what what response 615 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:46,800 » it was written in when the measure Y when we put that on the ballot um it was 616 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:50,480 to give confidence to the public that the money would be spent as we said it 617 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:54,160 was going to be there was an expenditure plan and pointed out you know this is 618 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:58,400 what we're going to spend the money on and so then you have the citizen 619 00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:02,560 oversight. It's pretty common for, you know, bond, you know, measures like 620 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:05,760 this, tax measures. It's a it's a confidence building. It's make, you 621 00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:09,119 know, voters feel like, you know, well, they're not going to take this money and 622 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:12,079 pay off their pension plans or something. Somebody's actually going to 623 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:16,240 keep an eye on it. It was very important, I think, to to help get get 624 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:21,920 the measure passed in the first place. And again, I think it was more critical 625 00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:23,839 in in the beginning um when we were just getting started with how to spend the 626 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:28,319 money, >> right? And you know a lot of the money 627 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:31,040 ended up on you know staffing because >> who generates the information that that 628 00:47:30,319 --> 00:47:34,400 goes to the committee? >> The staff generates the information 629 00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:36,560 » and then what what authority does the committee have if they don't like what 630 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:40,720 they see >> they put it in their report. They're 631 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:45,040 they're basically one job is to meet you know quarterly and then do an annual 632 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:47,920 report. The annual report I mean I think you're getting to something fundamental. 633 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:51,359 the annual report is based on information that they get from staff, 634 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:56,960 but of course they're free to ask any questions or you know anything like that 635 00:47:53,920 --> 00:48:01,760 and um but the the annual reports kind of have pointed out over time basically 636 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:06,079 what the money's been spent for. In in my time on the commission there have 637 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:09,520 been not serious questions about it. I think the only questions were early on 638 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:13,520 about spending the money on facilities and because the money kind of built up a 639 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:16,720 lot over time but hadn't been spent. You know, when are you going to spend this 640 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:20,000 money and then we have >> So, so do they need a quorum? 641 00:48:19,119 --> 00:48:22,079 » They do. Yeah. >> Yes. 642 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:26,000 » And if they don't have it, what happens? >> They have to adjourn the meeting. 643 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:31,760 They're a Brown Act body. >> And so then, so their stamp of approval 644 00:48:29,359 --> 00:48:35,200 or their objections don't go into the record. 645 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:37,680 » No. Um so they generally have a few uh months to write the report and they have 646 00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:40,079 a a small >> but if they don't have a forum how do 647 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:44,800 they write the report? >> So they have a small group that is not 648 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:48,000 it's smaller than the total quorum. So they have you know two or three people 649 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:52,880 that write the report. They bring the report to the, you know, to the meeting 650 00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:57,440 and then they vote on the report. And if if at that meeting there isn't a quorum, 651 00:48:54,880 --> 00:49:00,720 then they schedule another meeting until they have a quorum and they're able to 652 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,839 vote on the report and then they present the report to the library commission 653 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:08,800 because they're an independent committee. Um, you know, they are, you 654 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:14,559 know, free to put whatever they want in the report. Um, and the commission has 655 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:18,079 little um little oversight over what goes in the report, right? 656 00:49:15,839 --> 00:49:22,800 » Yeah. They they just accept it. >> Commissioner Goldberg. 657 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:29,680 » Um well, I just want to say I don't know if Peter, Josh, and an how much you've 658 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:34,880 been told about the Measure Y, which I guess is measure W committee now. Um but 659 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:38,720 you all have to appoint somebody to it. And you know, judging from what Barbara 660 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:43,119 said about the steep learning curve, and I know that my it took me three 661 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:46,240 appointees to find one that stuck. You know, they went there, they figured out 662 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:53,359 what it was, and they're like, Um, so I think it's really important to 663 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:57,359 talk to them and and for us ourselves to know what goes on there. Um, and to 664 00:49:55,520 --> 00:50:02,640 really tell your potential appointee what it's like. I wound up going to one 665 00:49:59,839 --> 00:50:06,400 of the meetings one time. Um, and it was really helpful to see how they 666 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:11,440 functioned and what it was. Um, my appointee that did stick um, she told me 667 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:15,760 a couple of times we're were neighbors. um wow this learning curve is steep and 668 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:20,160 wow I don't really know what's going on and wow I don't really know how to 669 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:25,440 contribute um so anything we can do to help them and maybe maybe a great thing 670 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:30,880 to do is to try to connect them up with the outgoing measure W person who's been 671 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:36,000 around in their position or you know I kept telling my person um talk to the 672 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:40,400 chair talk to the chair give her a call meet with her I mean she's great the the 673 00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:44,800 chair she's great but I don't know how much time she has to meet with 674 00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:50,000 everybody. Um, so we probably have to step up a little more than we have to 675 00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:53,920 » for for for new appointee. >> So are there rules and regulations on 676 00:50:51,839 --> 00:50:55,680 this uh committee? W >> for why? 677 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,520 » Yes, >> there is. So when we pass the ballot 678 00:50:57,359 --> 00:51:02,880 measure, there's an expenditure plan and you know basically the library has to 679 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:07,040 stick within the within the expenditure plan. It's very clear the money can be 680 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:11,200 spent on hiring staff, it can be spent on facilities, it can be spent on 681 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:15,040 programming. So what um the accounting staff does is the accounting staff 682 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:23,119 provides them with financial reports that that explicitly show how the sales 683 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:26,400 tax uh money is spent and then um and then that includes you know how much 684 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:31,359 they spend on programming, how much they spend on staff, how much they spent on 685 00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:35,599 buildings. And so what the what the report kind of subcommittee does is they 686 00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:39,520 take all that financial information and then they turn it into a narrative um 687 00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:44,240 and they produce a set of recommendations at the end. 688 00:51:41,359 --> 00:51:48,880 » All the information in the budget. >> No, because the budget is forward 689 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:52,880 looking and the measure Y is um looking at the previous year. So they're looking 690 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:57,359 so >> yes 691 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:59,520 they come and do a report every year. the measure Y committee. 692 00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:01,760 » Did I get it yet? >> You haven't been with us long enough. 693 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,920 » Oh, okay. >> So, for example, 694 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:07,520 » how do I appoint somebody if I don't know what I'm appointing them to? 695 00:52:05,599 --> 00:52:10,000 » So, in part of your orientation, they'll walk you through that. 696 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:16,400 » Who what orientation is this? >> Le Lisa, 697 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:20,079 » I'm going to hand you. >> So, I guess there there are two things I 698 00:52:18,319 --> 00:52:25,520 wanted to to talk about. The orientation's one of them, too. But um 699 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:32,000 when a commissioner is departing, like if they're outgoing, they're not reapp 700 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:36,319 getting reappointed or what have you. Um we've had three that that just left, 701 00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:41,760 their terms ended and they did not continue. So I reached out to them and 702 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:46,720 said, um your term's ending, that means your measure Y appointment is going to 703 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:51,839 end at the same time. Can you please reach out to that appointee letting them 704 00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:57,200 know their term is going to expire and then ask them if they want to be 705 00:52:54,319 --> 00:53:01,520 considered for reappointment to let you know to to let that 706 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:05,680 commissioner know or to let me know so we could try and get them connected with 707 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:11,920 the new commissioner. So that worked really well with uh Josh 708 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:16,319 um because Evet Miner is a chair and she wants she wanted to continue because she 709 00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:21,200 has a lot of knowledge. So I worked with Jo, you know, like let's see, David 710 00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:26,160 Cahill said Evette wanted to continue. So then I reached out to Josh and said, 711 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:28,720 "What what do you want to do?" And so we we worked it out. We 712 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:32,480 » met last week and chatted >> and then and then now yeah, she wanted 713 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:38,720 to meet with you, you know, separately to to chat. So she is open for um 714 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:46,400 dialogue. But anyway, that's my process. So people if they you know so Mike Neely 715 00:53:43,359 --> 00:53:52,720 wanted to not did not want to continue that that's what I got from uh Deborah 716 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:56,880 and then the other person who was appointed by Andy did not want to 717 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:59,839 continue either. So it's not like they're just dropping off and they're 718 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:03,520 you know bye-bye. >> So what are the rules on who you can 719 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:06,400 appoint? Can you appoint a relative >> or is that not 720 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,720 » Well that's kosher. >> Yeah. 721 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:12,880 » And who decides that? Well, I guess so the so the full commission um so you 722 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:16,240 nominate the appointee and the full commission votes on it and so it would 723 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:21,680 be up to the commission to decide whether or not they um would 724 00:54:19,359 --> 00:54:23,520 » well say I want to appoint my wife. >> Can I do that? 725 00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:25,520 » It's not illegal. >> It's not illegal. Okay. 726 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:29,920 » Point your wife. >> I'll let her know. I'll point her to 727 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:33,599 » Hey honey, I got a job for you. >> Point somebody that likes to work with 728 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:37,680 numbers and details. >> That's her. and and we can give you 729 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,760 copies of previous reports. >> We can give you copies of previous 730 00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:43,440 reports. >> Yeah. And going back to the orientation 731 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:50,000 and training part. >> So what I do is I have a welcome email 732 00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:54,319 that has a bunch of information. So the idea is that you're going to go through 733 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:58,800 it slowly and then if there are questions that come up then you reach 734 00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:04,480 out. You can reach out to me. >> Um so that's that's one way to do it. 735 00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:08,480 And then there's also the buddy program. Now, um there's a buddy program 736 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:13,359 available, so you can connect with another commissioner who's been around a 737 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:18,800 while. And then those are good questions to ask the the buddy. Um there's also 738 00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:24,240 now a a meeting meet and greet with the CFO. So that'll be going over financial 739 00:55:22,319 --> 00:55:29,599 information for the library, the budget budget overview. But always, you know, 740 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:35,599 if there's something, you know, that that is that 741 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:39,839 you're not comprehending or like you don't you haven't d you haven't been 742 00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:45,680 diving in, then you can reach out cuz the Measure Y meetings are recorded. So, 743 00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:49,520 you know, it's not as interesting to see it in the recording, but if you really 744 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:56,000 wanted to get an idea of what they talk about, you know, you could just poke 745 00:55:52,640 --> 00:56:00,960 poke around and and see that. MNA, did you have anything to add? 746 00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:07,200 » Yes, I I do I think I do believe I have an orientation meeting uh with the three 747 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:11,760 commissioners next week. Uh I hope that you get your budget binder tonight that 748 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:22,079 we prepared so you can peruse through it. Uh the budget is structured in um to 749 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:30,240 meet the requirements of measure Y. uh there there's a whole section on the 750 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:38,720 allocation of um the budget and in your current in the uh uh financials that you 751 00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:45,040 received today for uh month 12 June 30th at the end there is a chart that shows 752 00:56:42,319 --> 00:56:51,040 how how much of sales tax and how much of property tax was spent with our 753 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:56,160 actual expenditures for the year. And that was that same package was presented 754 00:56:53,440 --> 00:57:02,960 to the measure Y committee uh at at its last meeting. So uh throughout it's 755 00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:09,440 always part of the financial discussions. 756 00:57:04,559 --> 00:57:19,040 And one other thing um measure uh Y sunsets uh on March 31st 2027 and on 757 00:57:15,359 --> 00:57:23,920 April 1, 2027 is when MA uh measure W starts. 758 00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:27,119 And there there is no change to the oversight committee. That remains the 759 00:57:25,839 --> 00:57:32,000 same. Commissioner >> Ps just to reach out to the two 760 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:34,799 commissioners who are trying to appoint something that they're not clear what 761 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:39,680 they're appointing to. What was very helpful for me and Katari was I reached 762 00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:44,079 out to our city council as the liaison city council and library and he was 763 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:48,000 fabulous. We worked together trying to identify four people we thought would be 764 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:51,280 good at it and then we went after them and one agreed to do it. we went after 765 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:55,040 them. That sounds really but you know we approached them and didn't wait for it 766 00:57:52,960 --> 00:58:00,960 to be approached. So that was really helpful because John Savage had another 767 00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:05,799 angle of of city people. So that's another approach to finding your person. 768 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:13,920 » Commissioner McKenzie. >> Yes. And way back when when we started 769 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:19,760 Measure Y committee which is after Measure Y passed we wrote up a blurb. So 770 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:25,119 there is a blurb somewhere that kind of spells out the details on on on the 771 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:29,760 committee members or something. I can't remember. We must have it somewhere. And 772 00:58:27,359 --> 00:58:34,799 the other question addressing the question about the quorum. Um this is a 773 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:43,119 bylaw question but when we did the bylaws my understanding of the quorum is 774 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:48,000 a quorum of seated members and so if the measure Y committee isn't fully 775 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:52,319 appointed because if maybe three or four of you haven't had appointed somebody 776 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:58,000 then the committee shrinks down in size and so then it's a quorum of the smaller 777 00:58:54,720 --> 00:59:04,160 group. So, um I've never been aware of ever having a quorum problem in Measure 778 00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:07,839 Y in the meetings I've been to. >> Generally, and Lisa's very good at this, 779 00:59:06,079 --> 00:59:12,799 um we generally try to ensure that we have a quorum before we have a meeting 780 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:15,799 so that we don't have to um have that issue. 781 00:59:15,839 --> 00:59:24,480 » All right, fun discussion. Any agenda items for future commission meetings? 782 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:28,960 Okay, date and time. Oh, Commissioner Mackenzie. Oh, 783 00:59:25,839 --> 00:59:34,960 » just a quick thing. I saw that the uh commission retreat has been pushed off 784 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:40,240 or delayed or something until January. And to the point about the training, um 785 00:59:37,839 --> 00:59:44,640 I think there was an training intented to be part of that was there not. So I 786 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:51,040 don't know for what reason that that has been put off into the future, but maybe 787 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:57,200 there is more of a opportunity here. And to the extent I still have not been 788 00:59:53,760 --> 01:00:01,839 reappointed. So that's a another story. But I would be happy to mentor someone. 789 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:06,400 Um I would happy to talk with anybody. I'd be happy to have coffee with 790 01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:12,960 anybody. Whatever I do, uh when I look around the room and um I definitely been 791 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:15,839 around the longest. So uh anything I can compartment that would be helpful, I'll 792 01:00:14,319 --> 01:00:18,640 be happy to do that. Doesn't have to be a serious long-term thing, but I'd be 793 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:25,520 happy to have lunch with people or coffee or anything. and um ask you know 794 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:31,839 I have uh boxes and boxes and boxes of agendas and materials at home. Uh so 795 01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:38,000 » anyway I can address the retreat question. Um so we need to hire a 796 01:00:34,319 --> 01:00:42,640 facilitator and and most of the good ones um are already booked up. Um, and 797 01:00:40,799 --> 01:00:47,440 we also know that u with Commissioner Riley being on medical leave, we wanted 798 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:51,920 and she is going to do a part of the agenda working with labs and so we need 799 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:56,079 to make sure that she is available to be able to do that. So, uh, we're looking 800 01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:59,760 at January. It will be on a weekend. It will not be MLK or New Year's Eve 801 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:05,119 weekend. So, it will be one of the other weekends in January. Um, but I I have 802 01:01:02,319 --> 01:01:10,799 three um three facilitators that I'm working to get quotes from and we will 803 01:01:08,079 --> 01:01:15,920 and then I know Lisa sent out a doodle poll. So, we we will hopefully have that 804 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:21,599 date pretty soon. >> I'm still waiting for two more 805 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:24,559 commissioners to vote. So, I'm not going to name any names. [laughter] 806 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,920 » Name and shame. >> Well, I don't I don't know yet because I 807 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:30,799 haven't looked at the Yeah, it might be. I don't know. I'm not going to name any 808 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:35,760 names because I don't know. I haven't looked at the results, but I know that I 809 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:40,880 have nine people that have voted. >> Don't make her hunt your 810 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:44,240 » Okay, so fill out your poll and the date and time of our next meeting is 811 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:48,960 Wednesday, October 7th at six o'clock here at Library Hushes. We are 812 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:52,680 adjourned. >> That's meeting y'all.