[0:03] How you doing, sir? [0:05] Great. [0:57] Afternoon. Thank you all for being here tonight. Yeah. [1:00] Residents, Plumbing County Shelf. I've helped them to each and everyone. The commissioners [1:04] also said his staff is up and known. Thanks for those on live feed this [1:07] afternoon. We will start our city special tenant budget [1:10] meeting at September the 8th, 2026 [1:10] meeting at September the 8th, 2026 [1:14] at 6 p.m. it is present time we have the roll call off the roll call we have [1:17] prayer and they have a pledge that leads us to the flag Commission Pole we asked [1:21] you to do the prayer tonight if you don't mind sir just from the time I don't recall [1:21] you to do the prayer tonight if you don't mind sir just from the time I don't recall [1:24] the role please Commissioner Kane. Present [1:28] commission of Bernard president commissioner Polk president Mayor [1:31] Cowles president thank you Madam clerk thanks to the commissioner letter please stand. [1:40] Father we thank you for your grace and we thank you for your mercies [1:44] which are brand new every day. Lord we ask you to bless us tonight [1:48] as we. Go forth in this [1:51] tender budget hearing we ask you to just give us wisdom [1:55] from on high God the thoughts of our minds and let everything [1:58] be done to the edifying of the the city of [1:58] be done to the edifying of the the city of [2:02] salvation residence and the stakeholders of this beautiful community. [2:06] These another blessing we ask precious son Jesus. [2:10] Amen. Thank you. [2:13] I pledge to tell you [2:18] to the Republic [2:22] under God. [2:26] Thank you Commissioner Paul really appreciate that prayer thank you. [2:33] Vice mayor. [2:37] All right we'll continue with our with our agenda for [2:40] tonight's voting conflict Commissioner King [2:43] no sir thank you commissioner Bernard no conflict thank you [2:47] commissioner Poe no conflict thank you sir and vice mayor mckelvin no sir [2:47] commissioner Poe no conflict thank you sir and vice mayor mckelvin no sir [2:51] all right thank you and non familiar opportunity for the public to address [2:54] the commission Madam clerk I don't have any all right thank you [2:58] resolution resolution 40-20 26 [2:58] resolution resolution 40-20 26 [3:02] medical referral please a resolution of the city of South Bay [3:05] Florida adopting and funding of the tentative municipal [3:09] budget of the city of South Bay Florida for the fiscal year [3:09] budget of the city of South Bay Florida for the fiscal year [3:13] beginning October 1st 2026 and ending September 30th [3:16] 2027 thank you Madam clerk City manager Campbell Mr. [3:19] Mayor commission whereas the city manager has recommended an [3:23] annual budget for the city for fiscal year 2026 [3:23] annual budget for the city for fiscal year 2026 [3:27] 2027 commencing October 1 2026 [3:31] and ending September 30th 2027 which budget [3:35] relies upon the millage rate of 6.3089 meals. [3:35] relies upon the millage rate of 6.3089 meals. [3:41] The scheduled final budget hearing on the proposed budget and mileage rate as required by [3:45] section 200.065 of the Florida statutes [3:45] section 200.065 of the Florida statutes [3:49] to be held on September 22 at 6 p.m. [3:56] Following prior budget workshops the city commission [4:00] finds and determines that the Psalms set forth in the tentative following [4:00] finds and determines that the Psalms set forth in the tentative following [4:03] tentative fund budgets are necessary to preserve the public health [4:08] public peace and public welfare of the city of South Bay [4:12] and are necessary for it to properly function as a city. [4:16] There is hereby appropriated from the general fund of the city of South Bay for the [4:20] above described fiscal year total sum of 2 million [4:24] 991 [4:26] 193 dollars to provide for the budget of the general fund [4:31] there's hereby appropriated from capital project grants and transfer [4:35] in for the above described fiscal year the total sum of [4:35] in for the above described fiscal year the total sum of [4:41] 5 million 292 [4:44] 434 dollars to provide for the budget of the capital [4:44] 434 dollars to provide for the budget of the capital [4:48] project fund. [4:50] There is hereby appropriated from water and sewer fund is the city [4:54] of South Pay for the above described fiscal year total sum [4:57] of 215 000 to provide for the [4:57] of 215 000 to provide for the [5:01] budget of the warden sewer fund. There is [5:04] hereby appropriated from sanitation farm for the city of South Bay for the above [5:08] described fiscal year total sum of 1 million [5:11] 176 000 to provide for the budget [5:11] 176 000 to provide for the budget [5:15] of the sanitation fund. This resolution [5:18] providing for said ear set forth above is adopted to cover said [5:22] period of time only staff recommends approval. [5:22] period of time only staff recommends approval. [5:26] Thank you senior manager Campbell may have a motion or a second to move [5:29] resolution 40 for 2026 of the floor for [5:33] discussion on approval so move move by commission Renard [5:33] discussion on approval so move move by commission Renard [5:36] second second but a question that this present time before this [5:40] resolution and our tenant a budget for tonight yes [5:44] Mr. Mayor. [5:47] Yes Mr. Mayor I'm sorry Commissioner King thank you. [5:47] Yes Mr. Mayor I'm sorry Commissioner King thank you. [5:56] Mr. Manager in public works. [6:02] Code 644000. [6:07] I see there's two items. [6:12] Under that code. [6:17] One being. [6:22] Auto one time purchase of a new vehicle. [6:22] Auto one time purchase of a new vehicle. [6:26] For 12 000. [6:30] Could you. [6:32] Explain. [6:35] The need for another vehicle for [6:35] The need for another vehicle for [6:39] public public works [6:42] That is a resolution that was approved by the commission at your prior meeting. [6:50] It's not another vehicle. [6:55] It says purchase a new vehicle estimated [6:59] lease purchased for 12,000. [6:59] lease purchased for 12,000. [7:03] There's the vehicle that was approved at the meeting of [7:07] last commission meeting last week. So this is the city manager [7:11] vehicle. [7:13] Under Public Works Department. Correct. Why is it [7:17] under public works department? [7:20] Typically buy vehicles out of that department? All vehicles are purchased out of. [7:20] Typically buy vehicles out of that department? All vehicles are purchased out of. [7:25] It. See, typically that is where we purchase vehicles from. [7:29] Okay. Beyond public works and parks and rec. [7:34] So you say, you saying typically, and I'm asking [7:34] So you say, you saying typically, and I'm asking [7:38] if this is where all. [7:42] Either. I can't say all because Parks and Rec cover their own vehicles. [7:46] Okay, so. So. Okay, well, let me rephrase that City [7:46] Okay, so. So. Okay, well, let me rephrase that City [7:49] manager vehicles are purchased on the parking [7:53] public works. Correct. City [7:56] manager for you. Correct. Okay, so [7:56] manager for you. Correct. Okay, so [8:00] there's 12,000. But the approve [8:05] amount was what? 54.55. [8:09] It's a lease. We base it on the amount paying per [8:09] It's a lease. We base it on the amount paying per [8:13] year. So this is 12,000 per year. [8:18] If the payments, we don't know what the financing is going to be. [8:24] Okay. So. [8:27] Okay. [8:30] Historically, they've been about 700 [8:33] monthly. [8:36] So the previous vehicle is paid [8:39] off. It's completely paid off. [8:43] Yes. Okay. And that vehicle is. [8:49] It Beyond repairs. [8:52] So that's why we is budgeting for a new [8:56] vehicle. Yes. But it's going to remain in the fleet. [9:00] Correct. [9:02] Remain in the fleet drivable. [9:05] But at this time, it's not drivable. [9:08] Is what you're seeing. It's drivable. It's [9:10] drivable. So why are we cost [9:10] drivable. So why are we cost [9:14] maintenance costs? Upcoming maintenance cost? Okay. [9:17] Could I ask what type of Maintenance [9:21] that the vehicle having that we have to purchase [9:21] that the vehicle having that we have to purchase [9:25] a new vehicle? You could. I can provide that detail to you. I don't [9:29] have it in front of me for the tentative budget hearing. [9:33] There's a recommendation [9:35] here. You can speak with your [9:35] here. You can speak with your [9:38] commission regarding that. But I don't have the. [9:43] Vehicle that information here. So you don't have the [9:46] recommendation? [9:49] You said it was clear. I don't have the [9:53] maintenance and all of that information in front of me [9:57] to give you an answer to the question you are asking. [9:57] to give you an answer to the question you are asking. [10:01] How long would it take for you to provide that information for me? [10:08] Because I would like to see that information before I can [10:12] make any kind of vote on this budget because this item is [10:17] part of this budget that I, you know, have to vote to either [10:20] approve or not. [10:25] It's got to take a moment. I don't have a window [10:28] one day. Two days. [10:31] Three hours. Can you give me an estimate? Yeah, I can [10:34] have to you tonight. Tonight. Okay. I'll send it to you email tonight. All [10:34] have to you tonight. Tonight. Okay. I'll send it to you email tonight. All [10:37] right. Thank you. All right. My next question is. [10:43] We have a nineteen thousand dollar [10:46] budget item under that same code. For equipment. [10:46] budget item under that same code. For equipment. [10:52] To lawnmowers estimate cost purchase for [10:56] two lawn mowers. [11:00] And then it says. [11:03] Replace warrant outlaw more 4000. [11:08] If I could remember [11:10] we budgeted for two lawnmowers last budget [11:10] we budgeted for two lawnmowers last budget [11:16] session last year, and we're budgeting again for [11:19] two, two more lawnmowers. [11:25] I don't recall us budgeting for two lawn mowers [11:28] last year. [11:31] Okay. So what's the, how many lawnmowers [11:35] do we have now? [11:46] I don't have that information in front of me. How many lawnmowers we [11:46] I don't have that information in front of me. How many lawnmowers we [11:49] have? So I don't have the inventory in my head or in front of me [11:53] provide you a factual answer. Okay. When [11:56] can I get the information? Like, again, this is another item that is included [12:00] into our budget that I need to [12:03] vote, vote to either prove [12:05] this. And I need the information to help me [12:09] understand those purchases so I can make. [12:09] understand those purchases so I can make. [12:17] The season on where to I can vote to [12:21] agree with this budget. [12:24] Okay. [12:25] Tomorrow. Okay. If not tonight. [12:32] Okay. The one time wrote material supplies. [12:37] Item 553200. [12:40] The estimate for Street maintenance and repair throughout [12:44] the city. Seven thousand dollars. [12:49] What rope material does this include? [12:53] Asphalt asphalt? [12:57] And when was the last time. [12:59] We purchased asphalt for [12:59] We purchased asphalt for [13:03] Rose? [13:05] Two weeks ago? Two weeks ago. And what was [13:08] that? That cost? [13:11] A palette which covers approximately. [13:11] A palette which covers approximately. [13:15] Depending upon the size of the pothole. It may feel. [13:20] Four potholes with a palette. And that palette is about [13:24] fifteen hundred dollars. The palette has [13:27] 40. No, excuse me, about 30 packs of [13:31] asphalt on it. [13:33] Okay. And we're supposed to be [13:33] Okay. And we're supposed to be [13:37] starting construction on one of our [13:40] roads. [13:43] I think, in next month, month or so. So which [13:46] road is this? Which road is next? Month? I said a month or so. [13:46] road is this? Which road is next? Month? I said a month or so. [13:52] What is that? Northwest 11. Or Northwest 12. [13:55] Th. [13:57] In October. No, they're not scheduled for construction until [13:57] In October. No, they're not scheduled for construction until [14:01] 2027. 2027. Okay. Thank you for that [14:04] correction. So what are [14:07] the, which roads are budgeted for the [14:11] seven thousand dollars. [14:14] Maintenance repair? There's no road budgeted. There's no specific [14:19] road set aside. So how did we come up with seven [14:22] thousand dollars if there's no specific roads that we're [14:22] thousand dollars if there's no specific roads that we're [14:26] budgeting material for? I mean, how do we [14:30] know that we're going to need seven thousand dollars [14:33] for [14:36] Rose repair one? We don't know which road that that need these [14:40] repair. It is a historical basis that we are [14:44] presenting these numbers. [14:46] Unfortunately, I'm unable to tell you which [14:46] Unfortunately, I'm unable to tell you which [14:49] holes, which potholes, where potholes are going to come or [14:52] which street a pothole is going to be found on. [14:56] In the future. Okay. Thank you. That's another item [14:59] that, that is questionable that [14:59] that, that is questionable that [15:02] I, before we go to the questionable piece of it, I, I [15:06] have to ask, are you. [15:10] Looking for. [15:13] City manager to present. [15:15] Where we may have a pothole. [15:19] Because I'm unable to provide that information. [15:22] Regarding which street we're going to fill a pothole on. [15:22] Regarding which street we're going to fill a pothole on. [15:26] Okay, so, so how, how do you [15:30] say it historically. [15:33] Is how the $7,000 came up. [15:33] Is how the $7,000 came up. [15:39] To this, this amount. [15:49] Yes. Okay. [15:51] Thank you. [15:56] Okay, now I've got gas and oil. [16:01] Estimate use of oil and gas. [16:04] For all public work Autos plus usage of [16:07] lawnmowers, bike holes. How often do we use [16:11] the back hole in public works? [16:11] the back hole in public works? [16:16] We don't, we don't have a backhoe in public. So you're just talking [16:20] tractor. This is what [16:24] it's saying. Included in this cost. It says [16:27] estimate use of oil and gas for [16:31] all public work with PW Autos plus the [16:34] usage of lawn mowers. Bike hole [16:34] usage of lawn mowers. Bike hole [16:38] and other public works equipment using [16:41] prior information and monthly average. Of [16:45] 650. So it's here [16:45] 650. So it's here [16:49] in this budgeted item, a byte [16:53] code. Yes. And, and, excuse me, commission. We can remove that, [16:56] mayor. That's, that, that Calvin has said that. That's information [17:00] that just sits there by the back hole. [17:05] Okay, I'm just trying to get some [17:08] clarification of the. [17:12] Twenty twenty thousand dollars. So you're saying it's. [17:19] Yeah, five lawnmowers. Five, five lawnmowers. Yes. [17:23] And we're, and we budgeted for two more. [17:23] And we're, and we budgeted for two more. [17:26] Yes. Okay. [17:29] How much [17:31] vehicle. [17:33] Gas is budgeted within this twenty thousand dollars? [17:33] Gas is budgeted within this twenty thousand dollars? [17:40] Mr. Mass, you have that information? That's deep broken down in that fashion. [17:46] Or vehicle. [17:50] Sometimes they're using for. The lawnmower [17:54] also. It's very difficult to keep track of some of the. [18:00] It's difficult to keep track of what now. [18:04] It's difficult to keep track. Well, it's not even difficult, let me answer in this [18:07] fashion. We're able to, we're not [18:11] tracking if it's lawnmower [18:11] tracking if it's lawnmower [18:15] or. [18:17] In this budget and present it to the commission. [18:21] All of that is itemized on your monthly [18:23] statements, your bi-weekly statements that the commission [18:23] statements, your bi-weekly statements that the commission [18:27] receive as your accounts payable report. So if you look at your [18:30] Marathon bill that sent out to the commission every month or [18:34] every, every other week, it shows where the [18:34] every, every other week, it shows where the [18:38] public works, where all the departments fuel [18:40] usage, very itemized, and to be some, it become [18:44] very granular. In the budget. We're able to look at an [18:47] overall number and say what that cost is on [18:47] overall number and say what that cost is on [18:51] an annual basis, not granule. That's to [18:54] the question that's being asked. Okay, Mr. Mr. Manager, I, I [18:57] do recall the marathon [18:57] do recall the marathon [19:02] fuel bill, and it doesn't specify [19:06] if it's lawnmower. Or if it's vehicle. It just [19:09] says, go ahead. [19:14] Except for the public work department, other [19:17] department, you are able to trace it. [19:20] Each vehicle, how much per month the gas must be [19:23] used, ma'am? But on the public work department [19:23] used, ma'am? But on the public work department [19:28] is. Because of the using the same [19:31] vehicle, gas. And for the [19:34] lawnmower, sometimes. [19:37] We. [19:39] More time consuming to calculate it how much they use for learn [19:42] more, basically. So, so you're saying it, [19:46] it's time consuming to [19:46] it's time consuming to [19:49] actually, let me finish. Let me, let me, can I finish? [19:54] He just said it. Consume. He did not [19:58] say time consuming. Okay. Okay. [20:00] It is granule. And the way that we use [20:04] our, the fuel card, there's no fuel card [20:08] set aside for the weed eater. There's no very [20:12] delineated fuel card set aside for the [20:15] lawnmower. That is what Mr. Massey is saying. [20:18] Okay. So while we on that, I would like to [20:22] note that, that, that may be something [20:22] note that, that, that may be something [20:26] that we need to do in the future where we can separate. [20:31] The fuel from the vehicles [20:35] and the equipment so that we can know how [20:35] and the equipment so that we can know how [20:39] the tax dollars are being spent, spent in [20:43] fuel. Because if, if you looking at [20:46] twenty thousand dollars in fuel, you know, the first thing is say, [20:46] twenty thousand dollars in fuel, you know, the first thing is say, [20:50] oh, you know, that's a lot of fuel [20:53] that's been for public [20:56] work. It's, this is going to be the issue. But for the [20:59] other department, we have a, you are able to trace it [20:59] other department, we have a, you are able to trace it [21:03] exactly. Each vehicle, how much per month [21:07] the week gas was produced. Okay, I understand it. [21:12] Thank you. [21:17] Okay. [21:20] Our next item is 552100. Are we still in public [21:23] works? Yeah, we're still in public [21:23] works? Yeah, we're still in public [21:26] under code 552100. [21:33] Estimate of using materials. And supplies and rental [21:33] Estimate of using materials. And supplies and rental [21:36] tools. For repair. [21:40] And maintenance performance. By public works. [21:44] Employees. That's six thousand dollars. [21:49] And this is all of the. [21:52] Tools [21:56] and, and rental. What, what rental [22:00] equipment are we or we are renting? [22:03] It varies. There's no one particular [22:05] piece. Let's say if we have to go, we have to fix [22:09] something, a window here at City Hall. You have to rent a [22:09] something, a window here at City Hall. You have to rent a [22:13] lift machine. If we're installing [22:17] as part of our maintenance agreement with Florida [22:20] Department of Transportation along U.S. highway 27, if we have to repair [22:20] Department of Transportation along U.S. highway 27, if we have to repair [22:24] any of those bulbs [22:27] or get anything of that height, cut a tree [22:31] and rent any saw and [22:32] equipment, those are the things that we would have to [22:32] equipment, those are the things that we would have to [22:36] rent as part of public works. Okay. When [22:40] was the last time we had to rent? [22:42] Those types of equipment last year? Last year? [22:47] 2025. [22:50] Yes. 20. So 2026, we, we [22:53] wasn't renting. We had, we hadn't rent [22:57] anything. So let me correct that. You're being, you're talking calendar year. I'm [22:57] anything. So let me correct that. You're being, you're talking calendar year. I'm [23:00] speaking [23:02] 25, 26 budget year. So if you look [23:05] at, let me look at your line item. [23:12] You said 553 200. [23:15] 552 100. [23:25] 71. Four thous. And. [23:29] Say that again. 25, 26. And you look at your [23:31] budget, you look at the actual. [23:35] So there is a 4071 dollars that's been utilized in [23:35] So there is a 4071 dollars that's been utilized in [23:39] rental material in 25. Okay. 25, 26 [23:42] budget year. Okay. [23:47] Still in public work. [23:51] Okay, we have. [23:55] Another estimate of repair and maintenance [23:58] of vehicle. And public works [23:58] of vehicle. And public works [24:01] department. What for five thousand? [24:04] What type of Maintenance [24:07] this include? Not sure. [24:11] It was. I'm not sure of the type of [24:11] It was. I'm not sure of the type of [24:14] Maintenance. It could be lawnmowers breaking [24:16] down, which have [24:20] increased. It could be the tires on the lawn mowers. It could be [24:24] tires on the vehicles. All of [24:27] those things, just your general maintenance [24:31] could happen. [24:35] So we are, we're doing here. What you're looking at for your [24:35] So we are, we're doing here. What you're looking at for your [24:38] 2627 is a projection. [24:42] Okay, but we can go back to 55. [24:45] 552 100. And it also [24:45] 552 100. And it also [24:49] states that estimate of using materials and supplies [24:52] and rental. [24:55] So wouldn't that. [24:57] Be considered as repairs? [24:57] Be considered as repairs? [25:01] Under that, under that item. No. It [25:04] was not. Okay. Repairs or repair and maintenance [25:08] versus renting the equipment that's separate. That's a separate [25:08] versus renting the equipment that's separate. That's a separate [25:12] item. All righty. Thank you. [25:16] Stealing maintenance. [25:20] Okay. [25:22] For. [25:25] Three thousand dollars [25:27] unforeseen maintenance. [25:31] Could you explain that? We're still in public works. Yeah, we're still in public [25:34] works. That's item five. Four, six, two, [25:34] works. That's item five. Four, six, two, [25:38] zero, zero. [25:42] Repair and maintenance of the building. [25:45] 546 200. [25:48] This repair and maintenance of the building. That's unforeseen things happen [25:51] here at City Hall. As well. You have to replace lights on [25:55] the exterior. We've had to just replace the [25:58] electrical lights in the building. If we're talking about an AC [25:58] electrical lights in the building. If we're talking about an AC [26:02] unit, we've had several leaks here [26:05] in the building. [26:12] Okay. Thank you. Next item is. [26:19] Estimate cost item five. For [26:22] six 100 estimate. Cost of repair. [26:22] six 100 estimate. Cost of repair. [26:27] Maintenance of various equipment such as [26:30] lawnmower. Which was [26:35] spaded and it was stated in the vehicle piece also. [26:35] spaded and it was stated in the vehicle piece also. [26:39] So. So we, we're, we [26:43] have the pairs and vehicle maintenance [26:48] and equipment. [26:50] Maintenance. So we'll clean that language going forward. Okay. All [26:53] right. Thank you. [26:58] All right. [27:01] Still I maintain it five, four. [27:04] Five, [27:07] Auto insurance. Is 13 [27:11] 800. [27:11] 800. [27:20] Is this. [27:21] What is this called? This based on? [27:21] What is this called? This based on? [27:25] Just based on the information received from my insurance carrier. [27:29] And what, what do they base it on? [27:32] I, they base it on General Insurance [27:35] practices. Okay. Are we doing. [27:35] practices. Okay. Are we doing. [27:40] Because I know with most insurance company, they [27:44] base it on the. [27:47] Background of. [27:47] Background of. [27:50] Drivers. Driving [27:52] record. Is this a case where. [27:58] The driver's record is [27:58] The driver's record is [28:01] affecting this amount? It's not. No. [28:05] Okay. How do we do any DMV [28:09] checks on our kilter? Clearly aware that we do. [28:09] checks on our kilter? Clearly aware that we do. [28:14] Okay. Excuse me. Say that again. I say you're clearly aware that we do. [28:18] Why would I, why would I clearly. Because we've been down this road. [28:24] Oh, okay. All right. Thank you. You're welcome. [28:28] And how often do we do these checks? [28:33] They are. [28:37] Unannounced. [28:40] So. Okay. It could be [28:43] monthly, it could be bimonthly. I can pull that record and [28:47] let you know. [28:55] Okay. Thank you. [29:05] We're going to move up. To. [29:24] Our city managers department. [29:54] All right. The where it. [29:58] S the six thousand dollars monthly allowance. [29:58] S the six thousand dollars monthly allowance. [30:03] Can I get some clarity on the [30:07] monthly allowance? You sure can. It is part of the [30:11] city manager's employment agreement. [30:11] city manager's employment agreement. [30:14] And what is it for? [30:17] I understand that it's. It's part of the city manager [30:22] agreement. But what is it for? Could you explain? [30:22] agreement. But what is it for? Could you explain? [30:26] I can't explain it here. [30:29] I can provide you a copy of the city manager's employment agreement. [30:33] That's to something negotiated upon amongst the commission. [30:33] That's to something negotiated upon amongst the commission. [30:37] And the manager. [30:39] Okay. [30:43] And when can I have that information? If not tomorrow, tonight it'll [30:46] be tomorrow. [30:50] All right. Thank you. [30:59] Okay. [31:03] To see the manager budget. [31:06] Increased about [31:06] 21.6%. But yet. [31:13] It says in the narrative that there was no significant [31:17] change from the prior year. [31:23] But it was. But it has been a change. [31:23] But it was. But it has been a change. [31:32] If you can tell me what, 21% you are referencing. [31:39] It increase last. It was [31:41] 2708. [31:45] 521. [31:47] And it increased to 3,338. [31:47] And it increased to 3,338. [31:50] 000 555. Just total [31:54] budget. But in the narrative, it said that the prior [31:58] year that it, it has not changed from [31:58] year that it, it has not changed from [32:01] the prior year. [32:05] Personnel. [32:08] Personnel. Personnel. [32:10] Okay. [32:14] In what position is that? It's our people manager, formerly human [32:17] resources. [32:20] People manager. [32:23] Is that a new position? No, it's human resources. Human resources. [32:23] Is that a new position? No, it's human resources. Human resources. [32:27] So that position have been filled. Correct. Okay. [32:50] Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Manager. And thank you, Mr. [32:54] Mayor. [32:56] Thank you, commissioner King. And thank you. I hope you [33:00] have to, you know, that the question that you asked was, I hope you had all the, I hope you'll be [33:03] able to get all the answer. I hope you be satisfied and reference to the [33:06] budget. But thank you, City manager as well, sir. In addition to [33:09] questions, bro resolution. [33:15] For resolution. 40-2026. [33:20] Here nine. Yeah. Yes. Commissioner [33:23] Bernard. Yes. City manager. Yes, ma'am. [33:23] Bernard. Yes. City manager. Yes, ma'am. [33:27] All of these in the budget. I heard over and over [33:31] these are estimates, right? Yes, ma'am. And they are. [33:35] For. [33:39] October 1st. 2026. [33:44] To September 30th, [33:46] 2027. Yes, ma'am. These estimates [33:46] 2027. Yes, ma'am. These estimates [33:49] are for. Yearly. Yes, ma'am. [33:52] Annually. Okay. Thank you. Not [33:56] weekly. We do provide because I was sharing with the. [33:59] No, I don't need you provided. I'm just. I'm just clarifying that [33:59] No, I don't need you provided. I'm just. I'm just clarifying that [34:03] it is an annual. Estimate. [34:07] Of what the costs are. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. It is [34:10] an annual projection. Yes. Thank you. All right. Thank [34:10] an annual projection. Yes. Thank you. All right. Thank [34:14] you, commissioner Bernard. Thank you, city manager Campbell. Any additional questions. [34:19] For resolution 40-2026. [34:23] I have had the opportunity to review this entire [34:23] I have had the opportunity to review this entire [34:26] budget. And if I had question, I took out the time to go in and talk to the [34:30] city manager about them. He made sure that he clarify everything to [34:33] me in reference to the budget, whatever line out I had a problem with, had question in [34:33] me in reference to the budget, whatever line out I had a problem with, had question in [34:37] in reference to it. He was able to explain it to me. [34:41] Tonight. I feel that, you know, we had ample amount of time. We had, we [34:44] had question of reference to different line items. And I think that if we would [34:44] had question of reference to different line items. And I think that if we would [34:48] have taken out the time to go and sit down and talk to our city manager, if we had the time [34:51] to talk to our city manager about different line items, he would be able to [34:55] have the answer for all of the questions that was asked [34:58] tonight. And I do apologize. It didn't happen that [34:58] tonight. And I do apologize. It didn't happen that [35:01] way. But the thing about it moving [35:03] forward, I want to make sure that we do that. Take out the [35:06] times. We have a question about a certain line item. We take out a time [35:10] for the city manager to finance director. Why this and why this [35:10] for the city manager to finance director. Why this and why this [35:13] was added to your different line items, I think it'll make a huge difference [35:17] and you will have all the answers and you have the information and present in front of you [35:21] as well. I just want to thank this commission tonight as [35:21] as well. I just want to thank this commission tonight as [35:24] well. Mr. Mayor, any more questions? Yes, Mr. [35:27] Mayor commissioner Keith, as you [35:29] stated, you said that you had the time [35:33] and you took the time out [35:37] and went and spoke with the city manager and got your question [35:41] asked. Yes. [35:43] Maybe I didn't have the time. And this was the time that was [35:46] available, available for me. To [35:46] available, available for me. To [35:50] ask my question. I do have that right to [35:53] have questions because I feel like that you [35:56] indirectly. No, I'm just, I'm telling you how I feel [36:00] that you end directly came at me with [36:03] that comment. [36:05] You know, I feel that that was unnecessary. You know, like I [36:08] said, you stated that you had you [36:12] had the time. To go [36:16] and sit and ask those questions and being that I was [36:19] the only one that was asking questions that comment was [36:23] directly, indirectly towards me. [36:23] directly, indirectly towards me. [36:26] So to say that I didn't have the [36:29] time. So there was the, this is what the time that I [36:32] had available to ask those questions [36:36] because I have that right. This is what this meeting [36:38] for. You know, I can't just [36:42] say okay or nay for something [36:46] that I need questions for. Thank [36:46] that I need questions for. Thank [36:48] you, Mr. C directing to Norton, no [36:52] commissioner here at all. I said, we take, I said, we take out the time. That's [36:55] what I said. I didn't prefer it to [36:58] you. Neither one of these commission steps up on these deals. I [36:58] you. Neither one of these commission steps up on these deals. I [37:01] said, we take out the time to talk to our manager and ask a different question [37:05] there. And the reason I say it that because due to the fact that you would ask them for numbers [37:08] there and he didn't have the numbers in front of him, that's what was coming [37:08] there and he didn't have the numbers in front of him, that's what was coming [37:12] from. Hypothetical, if you would have, if you [37:16] had the time, I think you would have had all the, the numbers that you needed [37:19] and the reason that those numbers implemented or put in this particular budget [37:24] were directly at you. I do not do that. I don't believe in that. I treat [37:24] were directly at you. I do not do that. I don't believe in that. I treat [37:27] each and every one of the commissions the same there. You know, I don't have no favorite [37:31] commissions up here. I have talked to the city manager. I talked to the [37:34] commissioner as well. Talking to the commissioner, I just, I need to clarify [37:34] commissioner as well. Talking to the commissioner, I just, I need to clarify [37:38] this tonight. Because if I offended you and you felt that I was [37:42] point directly at you, you're wrong. You're mistaken. I [37:45] wasn't, none whatsoever. And I would never do that because I don't believe [37:45] wasn't, none whatsoever. And I would never do that because I don't believe [37:49] in throwing rocks and hide in my hand. I don't do that there. If I have something [37:52] that said to you, I said directly to you and still move on. No [37:56] hatred, no bias or nothing to worry, no one, regardless of [37:59] race, color, creed, all religion. I do not do that there [37:59] race, color, creed, all religion. I do not do that there [38:03] none whatsoever. So I want to make sure that it's very clear tonight. No, it [38:06] wasn't aiming at you at all. None whatsoever. I just said that I [38:10] took at the time to meet with the city manager to get my answers [38:10] took at the time to meet with the city manager to get my answers [38:14] taken, get my answer. And my question [38:18] answer by the city manager. And that's the reason I said that tonight. [38:22] But it wasn't that. We're naming directly. It wasn't naming, nothing name in that Jew. If [38:22] But it wasn't that. We're naming directly. It wasn't naming, nothing name in that Jew. If [38:26] I offended you any type of way, I do apologize. [38:29] Right. We'll continue. And in additional question at this present [38:32] time, here are non-medical activity called the role, please. Commissioner Kane. [38:36] At this time, I say no. Commissioner Bernard? Yes. [38:40] Commissioner Polk. Yes. By Samara McKelvin [38:43] Mayor Kaus. Yes. Pastors four to one. [38:48] This present time. And a motion to it. Energy motion [38:51] to adjourn. [38:57] You just a jar. [39:17] All right. Thank you. [39:19] Thank you all for being here tonight. All right, baby. [39:23] Oh, you're welcome. Thank you all. When the time I go somewhere and I see something. [39:23] Oh, you're welcome. Thank you all. When the time I go somewhere and I see something. [39:29] Good night, ladies. Good night. [39:36] Steph, thank you all for being here. [39:40] So welcome. [39:42] Now I'm going home and eat. [39:47] Home and eat tour. [39:57] Good night. Night. Take care. All right. [39:57] Good night. Night. Take care. All right. [40:02] Touch. Ladies and gentlemen. [40:06] How you doing, my brother? [40:09] Listen. [40:10] I don't think we can do. [40:13] Pass. Ion. [40:17] I'm a prey. [40:20] I'm free. Thank you. [40:23] I'm doing what you told me to do. [40:23] I'm doing what you told me to do.