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call the meeting to order.
>> Since I completely missed the time, uh,

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could you please stand alone?
>> That's right.

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To the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for it

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stands nation

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of all.
Apologize for that. I'm still on time.

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All right. We have all five counselors
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Is there anybody here that would like to
sneak on something that's not on the

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agenda this evening?

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Seeing none, we'll move on. Jim, here.
>> All right. [laughter]

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They have completed the covert on
Oldfield Road. They're just waiting for

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final inspection from uh MDOT. They
flushed coververts on Gr Street in

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Oldfield Road and roadside mowing still
continues. Police Department had eight

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arrests, seven accidents, 155 traffic
stops, and the behavioral health leaison

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helped 104 people in the last two weeks.
The car versus deer incident for the

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police reserve on August 22nd.
Unfortunately, has left that pri total

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by the insurance company. Wow.
>> So, we are looking to get it replaced

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with reinsurance money and we possibly
may need to take some money out of CIP

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to supplement the purchase, but only
going to give us value when it's worth

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down. We've had that vehicle a few
years. Um the insurance company will

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also cover the cost to take off all the
blinking lights off the current cruiser

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and put them on the vehicle that we get.
Hopefully we can get the same kind of

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vehicle. So it's the easy spot. In fire
department, there were 45 calls in the

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last two weeks with two of them
overlapping bringing us to 471 year to

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date. And both the fire and police are
gearing up for the Punkin Town triathlon

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that's coming this weekend with public
safety being um other top concern. code

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enforcement, seven building permits, two
certificates of occupancy, 13

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inspections, and they're looking into
options for online permit payments to

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make it easier for the public
contractors.

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Planning and economic development, block
party planning is underway, and that

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would be scheduled for October 24th.
Multiple meetings with business owners

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and they have a walkthrough for
potential subdivision off road this

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Thursday. transfer station. Just a
reminder, hazmat day is Saturday,

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September 19th, and we have been having
some trouble with people not following

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the rules or listening to the
attendance, which is a high safety

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concern for us. So, we have purchased a
few more signs to keep the messages

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clear, and we ask people to just be
respectful to the staff.

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Library had 1,255
visitors in the last two weeks. We have

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six public programs that were attended
by 101 people. And September is library

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card signup month. So swing by behind
get your car varations. Um since you're

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getting later into the calendar year
they have decided to delay the delivery

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of the playground for egg fields because
if we were to take the delivery of the

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equipment now and if weather doesn't
cooperate they don't get to us we would

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have to store all of that through the
winter. So we're going to order

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everything and just delay the delivery
until spring and we'll be the first one

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on their list then. Um they have
received several applications for the

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program coordinator position. Nikki held
one interview last week and has a few

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more this week to complete. Seniors
programs they went on a launch last week

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was successful. They saw a long list.
The assessing they are reviewing two

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applications. They are updating all the
ownership changes in the system from

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April 1st to current. Now that the tax
bills have been processed, clerk's

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office has been very busy. 352 motor
vehicle transactions, 20 vital records,

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21 notorial acts. They expect to have
absentee ballots delivered on or around

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the first week of October. October 5th
is the scheduled date. The state of

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Maine is providing eight new tabulators
to replace the five tabulators that we

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have been currently using. So all that
new equipment will include election

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upgrade softwares as well. So I need to
show you me a picture of those. They are

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in our possession and are glad to have
more of them and up to date. We

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officially have four nominees for the
town council. I uh messed anyone's last

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name up. I apologize now. Anthony
Palazari,

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Ronald Kusk, Dorothy Bang, and Jane Jane
Bren.

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We have many vacancies in our
committees. If you want to be involved,

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please submit your application into the
clerk's office. Finance and HR, we have

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72 people that have signed up for the
tax club, which is 14 more than last

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year. and we are scheduling our annual
training for staff for late September

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into early October. Admin, I continue to
gather information for the auditor,

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finalizing year end reports and
reconciliations. After some research, we

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have found that we do not need to go in
front of the planning board for the new

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playground um for Agie Fields. It was
already approved back in 1997. So, this

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has been on the books for to happen for
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Um, I attended several meetings for a
town hall dealing with some personnel

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issues and for a town hall renovation
update. The flooring on the first floor

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was completed. The cabinets and the
bathroom sinks were delivered today.

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Windows are being installed on the third
floor today as well. Phase one is

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tenatively scheduled to have a move
dates on October 1st and second. We are

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trying to finalize that with the movers.
The new vault system is going to be

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installed on September 14th to the 16th.
So, that'll be really exciting. We're

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hoping to get a picture of what it was
versus what the new system will be and

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get that out there because it's going to
be a very big difference. Um, and that

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we may need to close the town hall for a
day or two when we have a sewer line

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done that is a clay line and they need
to get rid of the roots and do a lining

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in it. So, we obviously can't have a
public building open with no running

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water. So, we'll keep you posted on that
as I know more. And just as a reminder

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to the public, we were talking about
this earlier for next Tuesday. The town

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council is hosting a listening session
to hear from the public about the

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upcoming budget process here at the
community center at 6:00.

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» I have a question then a statement. So
question first. You said,251

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visitors at the library.
>> 1255 the last two weeks.

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» Wow.
>> Isn't that amazing?

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» That is that is unbelievable from where
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» They must be going to the cake pants.
[laughter]

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» Okay. My last one, my forearm. You can
check out cake pans at the library. They

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have a few hundred stuff.
>> Yes.

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» So, it's fantastic.
>> Now, too.

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» Yes. Um, Block Park, are they going to
use the parking lot on Paul Street

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again? So, Jay and Ruber should go visit
it because there's an abandoned

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motorcycle that hasn't moved in two
years and there's a truck that's been

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there for probably eight months with the
windows down.

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So they might want to visit that before
we have block party that

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» any questions for Jen.
>> All right. Fantastic. Thank you, Jen.

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Thank you. Uh moving on to approval of
the following minutes. First one up is

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the town council special meeting on July
20th, 2026.

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» I have a motion to adopt the time
council special minutes from July 20th

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26 as written. Second. We have a motion
and a second. Any discussion on those

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meeting minutes?
Hearing none, we'll move to a vote. Sam

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» I.
>> Yeah. Paul,

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» Joel, I vote I also motion passes. 50-0.
Moving on to town council special needs

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minutes July 22nd, 2026.
>> Motion to adopt the town council special

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meeting minutes for July 22nd, 2026. Is
written.

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» Second. We have a motion in a second.
Any comment on those? None. S I Paul.

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» Hi.
>> Joel.

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» Hi.
>> All I vote I also that motion passes

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zero. Next one up is the town council
public hearing minutes from August 25th

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of 2026.
I would move that we accept the public

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hearing minutes
of August 25th, 2026.

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Second.
>> Got a motion and a second. Any comments?

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Hearing none. S. I'm out with stand
there. [clears throat]

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» Paul,
>> I

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» I vote I also motion passes forward with
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Moving down to town council meeting
minutes of August 25th, 2026.

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I will make a motion to accept the town
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2026 as written.
>> Second motion in a second. Any

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discussion?
Hearing none. Sam, I assume you're going

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to stand. Paul I don't I
>> I vote I also that motion passes forth

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with one extension. That takes care of
all the meeting minutes. Moving down to

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the treasurer's warrant.
>> Mr. Chair, I'll make a motion to sign

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the treasur's warrant dated 170 or
dated September 3rd, 2026 in the amount

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of $174,272.

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» I will second that motion in a second.
Any discussion on the treasurer's

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warrant from September 3rd?
Hearing none, we'll move to a vote. Sam

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» I, Paul I,
>> Joel,

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» I,
>> Mallerie,

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» I vote I also motion passes 5 Z. There's
no computers to my left.

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» All right. Uh, moving down to unfinished
>> unfinished business.

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» Do you need a card?
No.

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» Um
yeah, 26-50 the comprehensive plan

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amendment growth area map. Um

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so it over this right last meeting

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right down to

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» why did we not take care of this at the
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comprehensive plan.
>> No, just did am I I think I'm smart

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remembering. I thought we we had like
had this on our agenda then we decided

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to put on a future agenda.

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» Yeah. To adopt the growth area.
>> Well, we had a public hearing.

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» Was that
okay Jeff can speak to the what the

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planning board has been through to get
us to this point.

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» Sure. Thanks, Jeff. Um
yeah, so they had the public hearing in

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June. Um remember the state asked for
one more couple more comments. Uh one

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was um dealing with critical uh species
habitat in in the southern growth area,

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the Punkinatown Route 236 area. So we
needed to go back and have those changes

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incorporated in order to achieve the
consistency. Um, and then we had the uh

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other matter of removing map 12, lot
one. I've got that right from the growth

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area. And so we've done that. Um, we've
added language explaining LD1829, LD

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2173,
which is, I think, what some of the

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public commenters wanted to see. So, uh,
that's why we're back here. Um on the

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July 21st joint session um that you guys
had with the planning board, I think it

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was made clear that we wanted to bring
it back to the planning board and they

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approved. So they they brought it to you
and bring it back to you guys before we

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go to the state with consistency review.
So if you guys approve, we'll we'll

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bring that to the state. And Todd at the
state has already is already waiting for

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it. So we should be good there. So
that's the sequencing we wanted to to uh

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do.
>> So this should be the last time you see

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» any questions for Jeff.
>> So Jeff, are the the changes you made

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not to the math but to the um the
language and planning on it? I mean I we

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don't
where are those located right now?

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» So those are located on the pages in
your packet. would have the summary of

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the changes,
>> right?

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» You can see each page
um where the changes are,

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» right?
>> And then if you go to the planning for

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change web page,
>> all right,

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» you can see the proposed comprehensive
plan as amended there.

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» Okay.
>> So, you can go see what language was

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actually changed, but that summary in
your packet will give you uh

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» an idea of what was done.
>> Okay. Would it make sense to table this

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until I I haven't gone on that website
to look at the act changes

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you see
something I haven't looked at it this is

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what we're looking for our opinion on it

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I think changes I mean other than the
map the changes are

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pretty

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» other than the map the changes are um
added a new background section after

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background regarding explaining recent
state housing legislation.

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Um and it includes
language to address um

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changes required by LD1829.
There's also a reference to LD 2003 from

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a few years ago. um that so page 153 was
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Um the language on the narrative
language on the route 236 growth focus

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area or growth area
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» um was updated to reference rare species
habitat. So the New England cotton tail

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um and coordinating that with eastern
trail planning. So that's really what

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one that state consistency comment
basically being mindful of habitat

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preservation even in your growth areas.
>> 90% of the updates were admin

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realistically.
>> Yeah. I mean, we're talking narrative

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clarifications
and then um SNPDC also updated

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» [clears throat]
>> uh just the text of policies and

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strategies primarily natural resources
and land use to talk about

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um inventories of rare species, wildlife
connectivity overlays. These are the

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kinds of things that the state suggested
we add to the comprehensive plan. Um so

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there is a new there is one new policy
under land use protection of natural

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resources and shoreline zoning on page
196. But that's pretty much summarizes

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what we're talking about.

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» Um on the
planning for change among the home or

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Yeah.
[clears throat]

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» Yeah. So it says draft conference plan
with proposed growth area amendment and

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uh the link change project page. Okay.
Here we are.

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Okay. All right. Got it. Thank you.
And we did the summary about 200.

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» Yeah, I just want to read the pages that
are noted off.

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» I'll take the council's wishes. I mean,
understanding councelor Flintstrom's

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point. Um, I have no issue voting on it
tonight rather than kick it down the

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road and add it to an agenda. Um, we can
always revisit it if he finds something

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he doesn't like, but I'll take the
council's wishes on that.

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» I'm

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making a motion to approve present a
change to be in line with LD1 1829 and

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LD 2173.
>> Second.

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» Motion in a second. Any further
discussion? Hearing none, we'll go vote.

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Sam no
>> Paul uh I Joe

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» I
vote I also motion passes 4 one

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understanding it's because Mr.
was not read it. Not that he doesn't

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agree with it.
>> Great.

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» Make sure we're clear from the public.
Uh thank you, Jeff. Has the plan

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keeps
bailing out on me. Um is that on the um

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site the plan change special

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set up to capture le29.
Okay. All

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right, moving down to new business
26127.

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Is there anybody in the public that
would like to speak about the block

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party road closure?
>> Seeing none, this go leads into my

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question I just asked you.
>> Yes, it does.

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» Uh
annual second annual block party is

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going to be October 24th, 2026.
Um they're looking for our approval to

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close Paul Street from 10:24
7 a.m. to 3 pm and Paul Street parking

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lot from 10:23 at noon until 10:25 26 at
noon

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was a great success last year. So I have
all four of this. I will make the motion

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I can do that in one correct?
>> Yes. I'll make the motion to approve the

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closure of Paul Street from 10:2426 from
7 to 3 7:00 a.m. to 3 p.m. and close the

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Fall Street parking lot on 10:23 at noon
until 10:25 at noon. Second in a second.

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Thank you. Further discussion on that
hearing none. Sam I

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» Paul
>> I Joel Hi

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» I vote I also motion passes 5 Z uh 26
>> can I make this road closure topic this

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is a little bit off topic and I was
going to correct it off comments but um

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this drives my memory of we need to take
a step to close the road for the LE

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grade uh
that's a step that I think historically

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we've often missed and so I think we're
catching it in time now thank you I'll

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go to the next
>> are we doing the same thing for

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Agumentist that we always miss and we
just do it anyway

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» which
>> we close we usually close the loops we

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put up barricade because there's someone
to keep the cards from going up

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buttonwood and
>> yeah willow

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there's too many
vote on that

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» yeah that'll keep the people happy yes
all the peoples

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All right. Uh, moving down. Thank you,
Valerie. Moving down to 26128. Is there

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anybody in the public that would like to
be calling Violet Flower Cafe the side

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brand
saying?

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» Yes. There we went one through five
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Uh

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so we have a we have a committee that is
myself, Jeff.

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Uh
yeah, you J.

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» That's it currently. Right.
>> That is it currently.

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» How it stands. Correct.
>> Um we have money set aside by the TIFF

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for the downtown district area and
people can apply. Basically, it's funds

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that once they pay for it, we will
reimburse them once they come to us to

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give them some funds to dress up
downtown, make it look a little better.

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So, we looked at this grant. Uh we all
approved as a committee that it would

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pass. So, I will make the motion to
approve the wildflower cafe application

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for $250 grant be funded from the
transit downtown tip fund.

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» Second.
>> Motion and a second. Any further

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discussion?
>> Um we want to talk about what we're

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looking to do or

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» uh I could go back and email.
>> Yeah. I mean, so essentially if you've

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been to the Wildflower Cafe, the outside
where the overhang everything is not

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pleasant and like she has a lot of great
thoughts thoughts for it. So that's what

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she's going to do. Take it more
behind.

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» It was a week or so ago we looked at
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» It was okay. That was like last year.
>> It passed.

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» All right. Thank you, Joe. Um, but you
know, I saw that it said the building

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owner I want to make sure the building
owner approved. I mean, she's not the

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owner of the building.
>> Right. So, he approved. I mean, I I

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couldn't somebody signed the
application. I could not tell who signed

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it or I just want to make sure that the
building owner him or herself has signed

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off on the application. Uh,
>> yeah, there's a signature property owner

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like third page, I think.
>> Yeah. Okay. and the ownersh

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I couldn't see I could read the
signature

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» the first page
right there

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question
>> general conditions

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» sure sorry happy to like happy to pass
this just in general I'm thinking in the

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middle of us wanting to do down country
finalization and all this do we have

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certain design
parameters and kind of looks and colors

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and everything. So things up are
cohesive or we don't have it done.

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» Unless I'm mistaken, nothing on lower
outside historic district.

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» Yeah. Okay.
>> For all.

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» Yeah, we still have we still reserve the
right to say no.

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» Right. That's right. For sure.
>> Oh, picture. Oh,

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» yes.
>> Yes.

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» Of what they expected to look like after
the renovation.

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In this case, she's just she's painting
surround the set window ses um adding

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some tables, some window planters. Uh
that's why I told $250.

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» All right. Any more discussion? We're
none. Sam I

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vote I motion passes five. Jim, thank
you again.

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» You've been busy lately. Yes, sir.
>> Uh 26129

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CI technologies approval. Anybody in the
public wish to speak on that?

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» All right. Hearing none. Um just a
background. June 23rd, council voted to

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wave the RFP process to allow the GIS to
continue its work. Um the goal is to

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increase the amount of available
information to improve the accuracy of

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the mapping, make the information easier
for staff and the public to find. Uh it

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was easier to stay with the company we
had honestly than go for someone else

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and re reinvent the wheel. Um funding
for this work is included in the fiscal

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27 CIP assessing budget. So it's covered
there already voted for. So I'll make a

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motion to allow the interim town manager
to sign the GIS agreement with CI

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technologies for $30,000 to be funded
from the CIP assessing budgets.

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Motion in a second. Any discussion from
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hearing? None. We'll go to vote. Sent I
>> Paul I Jo I

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» Valerie
>> Hi.

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» I vote I also that motion passes 50
26130.

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I want to ask if anybody wants to speak
on this one because of scheduling a

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public special town meeting for the
highway maintenance overrun. Jen, do you

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have a day in mind?
>> Yes, I do. I'd like to do it at our next

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council meeting. It was the beginning of
it, September 22nd here community

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center.
The warrant article was written by the

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town's attorney and we are following the
state law process.

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This is the first time I've encountered
this. Um we will select moderator. Um,

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we have one line do the one article
coming

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and we do have I do have some
preliminary numbers to make people feel

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a little bit better about the 40,000
being taken out of und designated early

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predictions. Um, you know, we haven't
had the audit yet or anything, but I'm

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expecting about 1.1 million to be
returning back to the undesated fund,

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which will pretty much offset the 1
million put in this year.

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» Sure. NASA Westerner.
>> Um, so since

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clearly some departments were under
budget. Um, and I think I read through

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and this was a little bit ago when we
first came when the council first voted

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to approve that 10% overrun or what not.
U

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within those communications from the
attorney had noted that it's possible to

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move money from another line item to a
different one. Would that allow is it

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still is it not too late to do that now
instead of a special meeting?

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» That would work. There was enough money
unspent in the departments that are in

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the same board article. But
unfortunately, that's not we don't have

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that option. I looked into that first
because it would have been easier and

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not had to go to special committee.
That's something that

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could have done
>> but unfortunately that she was not

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available for us.
>> So that's even in the same warrant. that

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» it's always something.
>> Yeah.

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» All right. Uh so I will hope to schedule
a special town meeting for September

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22nd, 2026
at 6 p.m. at the community center to go

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over the uh request for $40,151

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for winter weather. Second. We
>> have a motion and a second. Any further

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discussion?
Al media was this year so we should be

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good to solve hope
Sam.

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» Hi Paul.
>> Hi Joel.

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» Hi Valerie.
>> Hi.

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» I also motion pass zero
>> and vote on signing the reaction

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warrants as well.
>> Uh I will make a motion to approve the

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warrant as presented. Second motion in a
second. Any questions? Dam.

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» I Joel.
>> Hi.

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» Paul. Hi.
>> Valerie. I

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» I vote I also passes 5 Z.
Moving on to 26131

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board and committee application.

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The Caleb White Grant.

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» Um I'll go ahead and make a motion. So
Caleb White Grant has applied to both

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the zoning board and the downtownation
committee. So, I'll make a motion that

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we send an interview with Caleb on
September 22nd at 5:45.

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Um, and we can then after the interview
or throughout the interview kind of gau

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interest and want to know those points
like that. Any further discussion?

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Hearing none. Hi Paul. Hi Bill. Hi
Valerie.

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» Hi.
>> I also have a motion

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5

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26132

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art. Any questions for council but want
to

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hear done.
Get there.

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want to quickly.
>> Sure.

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» This is you.
>> I mean,

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» but now, right?
>> Yeah. Um, so the community art committee

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met a couple weeks ago and had some
questions for the council. Um, I

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definitely have thoughts. I think we
should probably have a discussion about

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this. Have some thoughts on some of
their questions. um when we stood up

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with community art committee I think and
what was kind of built into I guess call

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the charge perhaps was um kind of some
intention to focus around the town hall

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building and filling out the town hall
with artwork from local artists murals

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etc. Um if I'm speaking as myself I
think that I would love to give the the

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committee direction to pursue that
endeavor given that the town hall

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renovation will be wrapped up in the
next year or so. Um, I think that all of

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these questions, ideas, like the way I
see this is that we clearly have a group

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of people who are interested and
energized in doing things in our

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community, which is a thing that we
should never um push back against. Um,

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so I think the ideas, the creativity, I
don't think that there's any I don't

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have any opposition to any of the
suggestions here. I think that as with

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any ad committee, there's always a final
step of approval of the town council.

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And so I think anything that they would
want to propose would come through the

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cat town council and then therefore have
opportunity to have public comment on.

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So my two cents is I'm not I don't have
any concerns with any of their

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questions. I would say yes to just about
all of them. They might not all be yes

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or no questions, but the bigger thing
that I see as a more immediate challenge

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is just our staffing situation. I think
we do probably need a staff member to

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liaz with this committee and I don't
know what how you guys are feeling about

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that. I feel like we're a little
understaffed and so there's part of me

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that wants to suggest that we provide
feedback back to the community art

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committee saying, you know, hey, can can
we kind of focus in on the town hall um

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artwork situation to start and come up
with some ideas for that while we are

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actively hiring because I believe we
have baked in Jeff, you have another

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person to hire, correct? And so I don't
want to assume that that's the case, but

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I'm thinking that somebody from that
department perhaps could kind of be this

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person. And so maybe giving the
community art committee a little bit of

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direction to kind of center their
discussions around the town hall. They

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can do that in parallel with us trying
to find this additional person to help

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support the community. That's my
concent.

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» It makes it makes clear sense. Again, we
are we are running uh bare in the town

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hall right now. Um everybody is wearing
multiple hats. Some people are wearing

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four hats. Um so if we could just leave
it to give them direction

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for a formal vote to give them direction
to basically concentrate right now on

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the town hall or
>> if you guys are ready to do that. Yes.

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Okay. I mean there's four other people
suggesting.

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» Yeah. I mean I if I recall when we gave
the charge initially it was you know the

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mural was was an issue at the time. I
think that should be still and you know

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I don't want to go down that road right
now but I mean that should be that was

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one of the initial projects that we
wanted people to focus on and we we

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still need hopefully to get that done.
Um and I do remember a lot of discussion

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about new town hall artwork. Um you know
I think that could occupy a good amount

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of the time. I do agree with Mallerie
that

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this sounds like a good task for um
whoever Jeff and Jen and I don't know

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what the timeline is for a new economic
development you know assistant which we

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had budgeted for and set aside money
for. Um I certainly don't feel it's

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appropriate to put this on Jeff's plate
right now. I mean some of these tasks

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involve coordination with a number of
other committees

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and I think you know that's that's
that's a big job. Um but I uh I I do I

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think it's great that this group
[clears throat] is is willing to dive

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into a lot of these issues because these
are you know very cool things they want

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to try to get done. So it looks like
someone that might be overlapping too

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with the downtown which was a little
talk and whatnot. And as soon as we had

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an officer said person
>> and I will just remind everybody with

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the mural. So in the spring we had kind
of what started down the path to do the

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00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:51,520
mural on the side of the fellow building
and we had pivoted to have the downtown

426
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:55,119
revitalization committee kind of be the
lead on that because we hadn't built the

427
00:38:53,599 --> 00:39:00,640
community art committee yet. And then
with the mural stuff kind of bubbling up

428
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:04,960
again more recently with um the pharmacy
building um I think we just kind of said

429
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:12,000
we laid forth the path for that. So,
we'll continue down that for the mural,

430
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:16,640
but bathed into mentioned in the um plan
for this, there were like different

431
00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:21,119
tracks um and one of them was like a
track around building out artwork for

432
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:24,400
the town hall and like a permanent art
art track where we'd be looking to find

433
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:29,040
pieces that will like be there
permanently or a more like rotating kind

434
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:32,480
of display case where it could be like
artwork from kids from Central School or

435
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:37,200
the high school or and you know, any
number of things like that. was what was

436
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:40,640
baked in and um
yeah, I think that that would be a great

437
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:44,000
place to to point them to in the near
term to focus while we get everything

438
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:49,040
else sorted out.
>> I agree that I [clears throat] mean I

439
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:55,359
think that as far as uh
sort of limit for the sake of staff time

440
00:39:53,920 --> 00:40:00,240
limiting the interaction with other
committees at at this point seems to be

441
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:05,280
the best path in my opinion. So that
being said, the town hall art I think

442
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,760
would be a good start sort of one thing
to focus on let them figure out how they

443
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,480
all work together.
>> Yep.

444
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:13,599
» And
also like you said it's time it's

445
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,800
timely. So
>> and I also think it's a little bit

446
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:20,720
timely in the sense that we could give
that direction to the comm the committee

447
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:24,720
right now and given that September our
budget hasn't started yet I you know any

448
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:28,160
work that they're going to do there's
going to be some money probably that

449
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:33,920
they need to spend in order to do that.
And so we could ask them to say um come

450
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:37,040
up with like a approximate
a budget number or something to propose

451
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:42,240
to the council that could be done
incorporated um budget cycle in the

452
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:44,800
winter. I am going to though let the
rest of the council weigh in more on

453
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,440
that but I will not be here when that
time comes about.

454
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:50,960
» Yeah, we could get us the dollar.
>> Yeah, if

455
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:54,680
us like an estimate of what they think
they might need.

456
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,680
» Yep.

457
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:02,480
» All right. Was there I don't recall in
that committee charge anything specific

458
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:06,560
that would provide them further
direction related to town hall building

459
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:10,400
art or
>> just let them sort of

460
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:15,599
» take it run with it.
>> I mean I there were some suggestions in

461
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:19,839
there for either rotating from the high
school or one on the wall. So there was

462
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:23,359
initial Yeah, there was some initial
direction in there.

463
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:28,160
» I think Mallerie you had thought about
on the third floor. Yeah, there was um

464
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:32,640
I'm not finding it on the website.
There's like a whole word document

465
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:36,319
um link inside there that I had put
together and if I need to resend it to I

466
00:41:34,319 --> 00:41:41,359
can where where I had kind of laid that
out like you know ideas for me like just

467
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:45,839
just totally idea as a mural like right
when you walk in the entrance one up on

468
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:48,400
the third floor. Um yeah, let's find
we'll find that present.

469
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,359
» Yeah.
>> So sorry.

470
00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:55,520
» Go ahead. Okay. Okay.
>> Uh yes. So during our first meeting,

471
00:41:54,160 --> 00:42:01,359
just because I was the one who was
there, they do have all of the charge

472
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:04,960
information, the um our town, our voices
um information that we put together for

473
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:08,800
them along with the committee charge.
These were just additional questions

474
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:12,079
that they had on top of what was already
given to them.

475
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:16,400
» Cool. Okay. Thank you.
Can I suggest that maybe perhaps I can

476
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,839
reach out to the committee and I'll copy
the council and kind of convey, you

477
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:23,680
know, the council discussed we'd like
you guys to focus on the town hall in

478
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:27,599
the near term. Come up with a
approximate budget estimate to bring

479
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:31,200
back to the council while and just kind
of explain the situation to the

480
00:42:29,839 --> 00:42:32,560
community art committee. Does that work
for everybody?

481
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,960
» Works for me.
>> Works for me.

482
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:40,640
I'll make a motion that Mallerie will
follow up with the community art

483
00:42:38,319 --> 00:42:44,560
committee on um what we would like them
to do in the near term which is focus on

484
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:48,800
the town hall. Second
motion and a second. Further discussion

485
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,920
hearing. None. Joel.
>> Hi.

486
00:42:49,359 --> 00:42:51,920
» Sam.
>> Hi. Paul.

487
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,440
» Hi. Mer.
>> Hi.

488
00:42:52,240 --> 00:43:00,640
» I vote I also motion passes. 5 Z. Moving
down to our last new business. 26 133.

489
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:04,160
Anybody in the public that would like to
speak on nomination of council

490
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:06,640
membership municipal procurement policy
ad hoc committee?

491
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:10,800
» Yes sir.
>> Please step forward. State say your name

492
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:17,599
and address. Thank you for sir. Tony
Palace Eddi Six Whitetail Drive. Um

493
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:24,880
I I feel I need to speak this evening.
Uh first of all, as the only current

494
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:29,440
member of this ad hoc committee, uh the
council, thank you, uh voted a some time

495
00:43:27,359 --> 00:43:34,880
ago. I also want to point out that, you
know, my nomination package went in uh

496
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:39,920
within two weeks of the announcement of
this committee forming back in July. uh

497
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:44,960
very anxious, very interested uh to get
started on this. At the time, there was

498
00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:50,319
some conversation about, you know, I was
considering a run for town council and

499
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:54,720
what impact that may or may not have uh
on this ad hoc committee and my

500
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:58,240
membership in that committee. So, I
explained, you know, I I thought if the

501
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,599
committee got going right then and
there, then a lot of the work would be

502
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:05,040
done by the time the November election
rolled around, then we could make a

503
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:09,200
decision, you know, how we would
proceed. At this point, we're

504
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:15,040
midepptember.
Uh we haven't appointed the town rep. We

505
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:19,599
still haven't filled the second uh
public rep.

506
00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:26,480
And I know there's a position or two
positions for counselors to sit on this

507
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:29,760
committee, this ad hoc committee, but
let's face it, there's three counselors

508
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:33,920
that are going to continue after
November. And so we've got two of those

509
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,640
three. And it's within the council's
purview. But I'm not going to tell you

510
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:40,400
it's not within your purview to select
somebody at this point. But I guess in

511
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:44,160
the overall scheme of things, the way
I'm looking at this is

512
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:52,480
November's coming up right around the
corner and the charging documents

513
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:57,760
present a window that keeps this open
until November of 2027.

514
00:44:56,079 --> 00:45:01,520
It also says that from the time the
first meeting happens, the committee,

515
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,319
the ad hoc committee should complete
their work within nine months. So if you

516
00:45:03,839 --> 00:45:14,000
back it up, we basically have, you know,
a start date of February of 27

517
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:19,200
to still be able to meet the November 27
deadline that's part of the charging

518
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:23,119
documents. So looking at it all, I'm
thinking as much as I was like charging

519
00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:27,200
right at it and I really wanted to get
moving on this given the totality of

520
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:31,280
what's going on right now, you know, the
auditors haven't finished up and that's

521
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:39,040
a big part of the recommendations may
come up. We just heard the town c the

522
00:45:34,319 --> 00:45:42,800
town staff is short right now and this
requires a full-time person from the

523
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:47,040
town staff, somebody who's going to be
involved in, you know, financial matters

524
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:52,079
and a second person to provide
administrative assistance. So, we'll be

525
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:58,319
adding that burden on the town staff as
well. So

526
00:45:54,800 --> 00:46:02,240
for consideration to the council, uh
first of all

527
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:08,400
I'd recommend that we hold off until
after the November elections and the new

528
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:12,720
council is seated and then the new
council can make a decision on who the

529
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:17,599
representatives from the council will
be. It'll also give everybody an

530
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:23,680
opportunity to determine who the town
representative is going to be to this

531
00:46:19,839 --> 00:46:29,520
committee. And lastly, it gives the town
an opportunity to continue to advertise

532
00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:34,480
to fill that second resource, you know,
from the community. So, that would be my

533
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:39,760
recommendation that we kind of put this
on hold until after the November

534
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:44,079
election and then revisit selection of
counselors for the ad hoc committee as

535
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:50,079
well as hopefully be able to appoint the
other two members. So, thank you.

536
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:56,480
» Thank you. Anybody else in the audience
like to comment on this? Anybody online?

537
00:46:54,640 --> 00:47:00,960
I'll bring it back to the council for
discussion.

538
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:06,960
Oh yeah, Mr. Chair. Um,
with respect to Mr. um I

539
00:47:05,359 --> 00:47:12,160
don't agree that it makes sense to wait
until the election to keep going. Um, I

540
00:47:10,079 --> 00:47:16,240
do anticipate that the town will receive
an application of another resident to

541
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:22,960
join the committee hopefully as soon as
tomorrow. Um and I hope they they

542
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:29,240
assured me before this meeting that they
will be submitting it. So have

543
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:29,240
confidence that they will. Um

544
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:38,880
from staff leaison perspective I I again
we talked about being short staffed and

545
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:43,920
down right now and overworked. Um, I
think there's still some work that could

546
00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:48,640
be done among committee members and
reported back to the interim town

547
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:54,720
manager, the remaining members of the
finance department that would move this

548
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:58,760
forward and still be able to uh meet the
November of next year deadline.

549
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:08,960
So, I just want to approach on one that
you just brought up with the work that

550
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:12,960
could be brought back. Um
that to me is a waste of effort from the

551
00:48:11,119 --> 00:48:17,040
people on the committee and it's going
to be a waste of effort on our account

552
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:23,119
staff because
so far nobody on the committee uddi has

553
00:48:20,319 --> 00:48:28,160
a very thorough background procurement
in the federal level doesn't have it in

554
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:31,280
the municipal level. I know neither of
you two have it at the municipal level.

555
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:35,359
I don't have it at the municipal level.
So, anything that the count that the

556
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,920
committee could bring up is in turn
going to go back to the staff that

557
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:43,599
they're going to have to either say,
"No, this won't work because of this,

558
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:48,079
this, and this." Um, that helps the the
interest of the resident works in

559
00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:52,640
municipal finance. Um, they're not in
front of me, right? Right. So, so my

560
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:56,400
decision is going to be based on what
the facts that I have in front of me

561
00:48:54,079 --> 00:49:01,760
right now. Um, and again, we could
revisit this a month from now, Sam.

562
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:07,119
Right. with if we get another one in. My
other concern is we have an election

563
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:10,960
coming up in short of a month or so and
we're going to we could end up

564
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:16,800
rebaselining
the committee if we have three

565
00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:20,720
counselors on there is a chance that he
could win. If he wins and it's you Joel

566
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:25,119
and him on the committee so we have to
rebalance that committee again. It just

567
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:30,240
does to me at this point I'm all for
this idea. I do it um I think it's a

568
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:34,559
good idea. I just don't think the timing
is right. I don't see what's setting us

569
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:38,960
to
after the election would change with the

570
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,760
procurement policy. It's not going to
change the budget for next year. Like

571
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:45,680
the budget meetings that you all are
looking for want to have before starts

572
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:49,440
working the budget. I don't see where
the procurement policy is going to

573
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:53,680
change any of that for us going forward.
That's just my opinion. It won't.

574
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:59,960
» Huh. It won't.
>> The procurement policy. Yeah. Shut. So,

575
00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:59,960
if I'm hearing correctly,

576
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:11,040
the council or at least you do not want
to proceed with this committee that we

577
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:15,280
that's been born. I want to put this on
hold until after the November election

578
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:20,240
because what was just brought to me from
the public makes sense. We only have one

579
00:50:18,319 --> 00:50:25,440
person from the public right now on this
committee. That's all we have.

580
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:31,599
So we don't have a committee right now
to go forward with because we only have

581
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:35,040
one resident. We wanted two. So no, I
don't think we can I don't think we can

582
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:39,359
move forward anyway if we only have one
resident right now

583
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:43,200
» and for and adding the two counselors
wouldn't be making progress towards

584
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:48,880
formal.
>> No, I don't feel it is

585
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,680
I don't like having two counselors on an
add-on.

586
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:57,599
you want my personal opinion.
>> I don't like that at all.

587
00:50:54,000 --> 00:51:02,000
» Just my just my house believes there's
an application come in. I'm happy to

588
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:08,480
remove myself
from this. So there there will be three

589
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:14,400
people so that if this start
that's okay.

590
00:51:11,359 --> 00:51:18,640
I am not placing a vote my own personal
vote something that's not backed in

591
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:22,960
front of me. Never have never will. I
I'm not going on a promise because I can

592
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:27,920
tell you Jack's not in the minute.
>> I mean, right there second there only

593
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:31,200
two people.
>> It's just one

594
00:51:30,325 --> 00:51:34,200
[laughter]
realistically.

595
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:41,200
» No, that's what we're trying to decide
right now.

596
00:51:39,359 --> 00:51:43,760
» If I could chair.
>> Uh yes, you may speak again since we're

597
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:48,960
discussing you.
>> Thank you. um you know discussing the

598
00:51:46,319 --> 00:51:52,319
committee and one of the concerns I have
and and I appreciate that there may be

599
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:56,160
another person out there who's got more
experience than I you know that is

600
00:51:54,240 --> 00:52:02,880
willing to step up at this point and and
join this committee but in the charging

601
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:06,559
document it specifically says that uh
for a second the committee shall convene

602
00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:11,839
a forum within 28 days of the
appointment of the third member.

603
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:16,640
So the charter specifically says once
that third member is appointed, it's

604
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:20,000
time to rock and roll. Whether we have
another person from the public, whether

605
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:25,359
we have another counselor, whether we
have an identified member from, you

606
00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:31,280
know, the town staff, uh the charter
says once that third person is

607
00:52:27,839 --> 00:52:34,960
appointed, it's ready to go. And I think
again that's shortsighted. I think we

608
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:40,880
need to get the players involved, you
know, in advance and then start this

609
00:52:38,319 --> 00:52:44,960
committee off right. And you're right,
it was brought up, I don't have

610
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:49,200
municipal experience. Uh, one of the
very first things that I want to do as a

611
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:54,480
member of this committee is sit down
with the town, look at other towns and

612
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:59,040
how they do things. Where are the
problems? Where are the perceived

613
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:03,520
problems and see if there are solutions
that are simple versus, you know,

614
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:08,640
complete wholesale rewrites of policy.
But again, I need to have as a member of

615
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:12,400
this committee, I need to have a
representative from the town who knows

616
00:53:10,319 --> 00:53:17,040
this inside and out and access to the
attorney if necessary and access to

617
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:22,480
other towns and the way they operate and
those kind of conversations to flesh out

618
00:53:19,359 --> 00:53:26,960
what the issues really are need to take
place before anybody starts focusing on

619
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:32,240
solutions or you know perceived
solutions. So again, I have real

620
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:36,559
concerns, as I stated previously, about
moving forward at this point. I really

621
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:42,079
think that the council needs to consider
holding off until the new council is in

622
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:45,599
place and then revisit the assignment of
representatives from the town. Perhaps

623
00:53:44,319 --> 00:53:49,520
this, you know, individual who's going
to come forward. Maybe there are others

624
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:52,720
that are better qualified than me or
this person, uh, who would be willing to

625
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:57,119
come forward with additional
advertising, a little bit more time, a

626
00:53:54,400 --> 00:54:00,960
little bit more proddding. So I I just
think it's in the best interest of the

627
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:05,079
town and this, you know, whole review to
hold off until after November.

628
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:14,800
» I will chime in. Uh I I am I think that
we should pause on it, but for slightly

629
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:20,240
different reasons. Um the biggest
concern that I have is um Mr. P what you

630
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:24,079
were saying is that I don't see how this
committee moves forward and makes

631
00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:29,520
considerable progress without requiring
a lot of debt. in this moment. And as we

632
00:54:27,839 --> 00:54:33,839
covered, I think Jen is wearing several
hats at this moment. We also are

633
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:38,480
actively trying to hire her a town
manager. Um, and Jen is wearing multiple

634
00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:42,960
hats. And I don't think we're at a place
right now going into audit, going into

635
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:48,640
budget season where we should be
allocating a lot of her time toward an

636
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:52,800
ad hoc. Um, I think that it would make
more sense. Um, not because of the

637
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:58,000
election necessarily, but I think the
timing of it and the, um, the potential,

638
00:54:56,319 --> 00:55:01,520
very big potential if we were to move
forward this evening with putting Joel

639
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:04,480
and Sam on this committee and then Tony,
if you were to make it onto the council,

640
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:08,960
then now that whole thing has to be
reworked because then now we have three

641
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:12,480
counselors on it. And so any I I just
think that waiting until after the

642
00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:16,319
election makes sense. I think the charge
is incredibly specific as you've pointed

643
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:20,640
out and really locks us into a timeline
which I think is maybe feedback for how

644
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:25,760
we do those things in the future to not
like lock us in quite so much. Um and I

645
00:55:23,599 --> 00:55:30,079
think we should pause but I think my
biggest concern is around Jennifer or

646
00:55:27,839 --> 00:55:35,200
Bassie.
>> Paul

647
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:40,480
um
I might go halfway between both

648
00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:44,400
positions. Um I'm wondering if we just
take We don't have another applicant. We

649
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:48,960
don't know who that applicant is. We
would need to interview them and then

650
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:54,319
have a meeting to appoint them. Correct.
>> Correct.

651
00:55:50,799 --> 00:56:01,359
» Which probably would not if we uh get
the application next week. We would then

652
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:06,880
have that in front of us. first meeting
to then

653
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:12,319
» set up a meeting uh an interview with
them at the following meeting

654
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:15,200
» which then brings us to
>> second October

655
00:56:13,359 --> 00:56:19,920
» second in October.
>> Yeah. So I I you know I don't disagree

656
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:26,000
with the guidelines. I think it's a good
idea. I I just I I you know I'm I'm

657
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:32,720
wondering if if Yeah.
you know, waiting until November, but we

658
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:36,640
don't have three council members on it
um is a good idea. So, I have one more

659
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:41,760
comment. That's good.
>> No, go ahead.

660
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:47,119
» So, just I I hear the the charge I wrote
specifically. I mean, it's an adopt me.

661
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:52,240
It needs to sunset. I like to put a
deadline on gold. If you can't get it

662
00:56:48,559 --> 00:56:58,079
done by then, then yeah, too bad. So in
terms of the the first meeting that was

663
00:56:54,400 --> 00:57:01,920
uh mostly intended to not end up in a
situation where you'd have to remember

664
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:06,240
that it's like when we meet here's
kicking the can down road so to speak.

665
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:11,200
That wasn't to say that at the first
meeting you have to actually transact in

666
00:57:07,839 --> 00:57:17,680
any you know substantive business or
anything other than meeting getting

667
00:57:14,799 --> 00:57:23,280
introducing each other um you know
trying to come up with any bylaws or

668
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:29,359
anything with the committee um and to
Paul's point by the time we get

669
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:34,000
assuming that this application comes
through if we're essentially landing at

670
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:38,720
the election any
push push this kick the can down the

671
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:43,359
road. That's all you're doing because
you're going to you're ending up at the

672
00:57:40,319 --> 00:57:46,480
election one way or another. And if we
end up there and there's three answers,

673
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:50,640
I just feel like that's a trivial
solution. Someone leaves committee.

674
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:54,640
» But it does not say that as soon as
there's a quorum, then that clock starts

675
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:58,000
ticking. So if we
>> if we were to this, correct me if I'm

676
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,960
wrong, but my understanding is as if we
were to team with the actual presenter

677
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:04,720
this evening that we have three people,
then we have a forum, then that clock

678
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:09,280
starts ticking. that we then need to
start moving on it. And so if we just

679
00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:14,000
simply wait to take this action when
along along the same timeline as this

680
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:18,880
new person that potentially might apply,
then we just do it all at once and then

681
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:23,680
the clock starts ticking at a more
reasonable timeline than even right now.

682
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:29,280
» Yeah. I guess I I'm just not worried
about a 9month block, you know, so it's

683
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:32,799
three members meet within 28 days and
then it's 9 month correct me if I'm

684
00:58:30,799 --> 00:58:36,720
wrong. Nine months from then that we
have to present to the council deliver

685
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,720
» and it can't be any later than November
of next year.

686
00:58:37,839 --> 00:58:43,520
» Yeah.
>> So it's

687
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:48,480
sort of re I mean so I guess if we table
this or go down then you're saving a

688
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:51,280
month.
>> Yeah. If we table it, you lose in a

689
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,960
month.
>> You don't table it.

690
00:58:52,319 --> 00:58:56,160
» Yeah. Huh?
>> We don't table it.

691
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:59,520
» If we don't get it.
>> Yeah.

692
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:04,400
» I said that's why there's five of us
sitting here. Um

693
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:08,000
» I would like to make no trip.
Uh I would like to table this until the

694
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:12,760
first meeting of the town council after
the election, November 17th.

695
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,760
» Second.

696
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:19,200
» We have a motion in a second. We're
going to go to discussion. You might

697
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:23,280
want to rethink your date, but I'm okay
with it.

698
00:59:20,799 --> 00:59:26,400
» First first meeting is very hectic
because you got two brand new counselors

699
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:30,400
coming in
>> and elective chair, vice chair, plus all

700
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:35,040
the stuff coming in. But it's your it's
your goal. I won't be here, sir. So, I'm

701
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:39,839
okay with your motion.
>> I personally don't think this is a huge

702
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:42,559
agenda. We're out of time.
>> We have a motion in a second. Any

703
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,720
further discussion?
>> The meetings will be the 10th and the

704
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:49,559
24th.
>> Yeah. Then we got our topics

705
00:59:51,599 --> 00:59:55,319
» so the second

706
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:03,359
» and I have done so a lot of my homework
um procurement policy for the federal

707
01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:09,480
dollars it's federal mandated the way
it's written so that's already been

708
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:09,480
written out by the lawyer and the purch

709
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:16,160
with date and I have given my
recommendations and started to

710
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:22,319
discussion So I think a lot of the
homework to get started has been

711
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:27,599
supplied already.
>> I I I agree with everyone else too

712
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:32,079
though. We don't want to overtask like
maintenance

713
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:39,160
and obviously it's important. That's why
I brought this up. But like

714
01:00:34,799 --> 01:00:39,160
considering our situation, it's not

715
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:45,280
» anybody else.
>> Um Oh, I had one more thing to add. Go

716
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:49,960
ahead. Y
>> um so 11:24 and then

717
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:56,799
I would say just on on top of that and
obviously application in here but we

718
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:59,839
would still consider we would roll that
with consideration as that comes in

719
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:04,079
right as
>> Yes. Yeah. Okay. Oh yeah, 100%. If we

720
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:08,319
get whatever we get for applications,
we'll take we'll do the invitation.

721
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:10,880
We'll do the invitations. We'll do the
interviews. We'll roll them through.

722
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:15,000
We'll get everything going through. So,
it'll all start on that day.

723
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:22,720
» Huh? We got a motion on. Um, anything
else? Hearing none. Sam,

724
01:01:22,319 --> 01:01:25,520
» hi.
>> Paul,

725
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:31,200
» I
vote I also motion passes 5. We're going

726
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:37,520
to the fun part evening. Council member
comments. Let's start with Paul.

727
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:43,599
» Wow. Um, believe it or not, I don't have
anything right now.

728
01:01:40,319 --> 01:01:46,000
» Okay, that's that's fine.
Don't put me in the shop. Say,

729
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:49,000
» actually, I'm sorry.
>> Okay.

730
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:56,319
Well, um I do want to inquire about the
comprehensive plan implementation

731
01:01:53,280 --> 01:02:01,680
committee and whether we need to sort of
solicit additional members for that

732
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:05,920
committee because um we have two
>> I would Okay. I just I I don't know, but

733
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:09,200
we need to get word out. Talk to
Suzanne.

734
01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:11,599
» Talk to Suzanne about all the openings
that

735
01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:16,079
» I mean, now that we adjusted the growth
area map, although I'm not sure how much

736
01:02:13,359 --> 01:02:20,559
that committee would be involved that um
but um yeah, that would be something I

737
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:26,160
would like to
>> and we've had both

738
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:33,559
um verbal and also email exchange with
Suzanne to get that going. Okay, great.

739
01:02:29,839 --> 01:02:33,559
Thank you. Happy

740
01:02:34,799 --> 01:02:43,839
Are you sure? Yes. All right.
Um I got I got a few things. Um,

741
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:48,559
one thing was the revitalization
committee in February sent us a letter

742
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:55,280
related to streetscape design standards
and um I don't I think we sort of you

743
01:02:52,240 --> 01:03:02,240
know acknowledge receipt so to speak but
didn't do uh anything else on that

744
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:07,920
considering the um downtown traffic
light plans and progress we made there.

745
01:03:06,319 --> 01:03:11,040
Um
there's going to be a meeting October

746
01:03:10,079 --> 01:03:12,559
October 6th.
>> Yes.

747
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:20,319
» 6th.
>> Um I feel like it's important that um

748
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:26,240
the town start taking action related to
those streetscape design standards and

749
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:31,920
putting something together so that in a
cohesive manner the town can give main

750
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:35,119
dot sort of instruction or direction.
Maybe not not maybe not direction of

751
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:40,799
construction, but you know, we have our
ducks in a row with how we want our

752
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:45,839
streetscapes to look. um that project's
going to be, you know, 50 plus year

753
01:03:42,799 --> 01:03:51,839
infrastructure and I'd hate to
um Eastmail

754
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:58,480
um together something at the last minute
and end up with a traffic light, but the

755
01:03:54,720 --> 01:04:03,920
same type of non multimodal uh situation
downtown that doesn't attract or

756
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:09,359
interest more in economic development,
which I think such design standards

757
01:04:07,119 --> 01:04:12,400
would accomplish.
Um,

758
01:04:11,039 --> 01:04:16,880
I don't know what the next step would
be. I guess it would to some for the

759
01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:22,400
council maybe to somehow
um request that those become a priority

760
01:04:19,839 --> 01:04:27,359
to put out an RFP for those design
standards to be formulated. Um, but just

761
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:34,400
wanted to bring that to life.
>> Mr. chairman. So we we don't the

762
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:38,319
standards haven't been we haven't
>> we Scarland at the time does not have

763
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:41,680
any streetscape design standards and
that would

764
01:04:40,319 --> 01:04:48,000
correct me if I'm wrong that would
include like street street light post

765
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:55,359
types uh sidewalk profile like all the
stuff that makes up what makes space

766
01:04:53,119 --> 01:05:00,559
» yeah if I may um you're correct as I
understand no kind of formal whole

767
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:06,000
streetscape design document.
Um there's really two timelines here.

768
01:05:03,359 --> 01:05:11,200
There's the development of general
standards if if if the if you guys want

769
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:17,440
to do that. And then those general
standards can help inform future

770
01:05:13,839 --> 01:05:24,799
projects. But we also have a some what I
would consider a more time-sensitive

771
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:29,039
task, which is what to advocate to do to
include in their their project because

772
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:32,720
after all,
>> they'll be ripping up the sidewalks

773
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:38,799
anyway. They'll be putting new conduit
in for the signal. It'll be they're

774
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:44,799
already proposing some curb extensions
and um um design features. In my

775
01:05:43,039 --> 01:05:48,559
opinion, they're omitting some
blockability features that should be in

776
01:05:46,559 --> 01:05:54,720
there. So the more timesensitive
question is what do we do specifically

777
01:05:50,400 --> 01:06:01,520
about Main Street between Norton and
236. So I think if you do develop those

778
01:05:58,799 --> 01:06:06,079
generic street safe standards,
including going out with an RFP, have a

779
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:11,200
consultant develop them, it's going to
be a little late to then apply those to

780
01:06:09,359 --> 01:06:17,680
the Main Street project specifically.
So, I think that now is really the time

781
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:23,760
for the town to engage with DOT on the
details of those plans because we have

782
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:27,599
um draft 60% plans.
There's the meeting on October 6 that

783
01:06:25,359 --> 01:06:32,720
you mentioned to really say what do we
want to include in this project in terms

784
01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:38,559
of streetscape elements for main street
because as you point out this really

785
01:06:35,119 --> 01:06:42,079
sets the table for
building the building what the street's

786
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:48,079
going to look like. One of the things is
all sidewalks should be a minimum of 5t

787
01:06:44,079 --> 01:06:54,880
wide. They've appropriated that plan.
We have talked about nice looking street

788
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:59,440
lights in that area.
>> Is there any like recommended path

789
01:06:57,599 --> 01:07:04,480
forward that you have for that? Like
considering the time it sort of is kind

790
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:07,119
of trying to be reactive
to the October 6.

791
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:12,880
» Yeah.
>> I would say this. I we're already as a

792
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:17,359
staff going to develop a set of comments
to give to DOT. As I understand that the

793
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:22,160
downtown revitalization committee will
also be developing comments to pass

794
01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:29,039
along to DOT and then I would just defer
to the council. Does the council want to

795
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:37,359
come up with a list or endorse what the
staff is commenting on and give that to

796
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:44,119
the OT? So, it's really up to the bas.
And yeah, it's it's a really important

797
01:07:39,839 --> 01:07:44,119
opportunity. Now's the time.

798
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:50,160
» So yeah, that was funny.
>> All right. Oh, that was that was that

799
01:07:48,559 --> 01:07:55,839
that one. I I do have one other one that
I do want to bring up that has been sort

800
01:07:51,839 --> 01:08:00,720
of downtown um related to and I know it
was like a year. It was actually last

801
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:05,760
year when the um
uh block party was happening and I think

802
01:08:03,359 --> 01:08:09,680
it I think it was D Carlo made a comment
to me about the boundaries of that Paul

803
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:15,920
Street lot and you talked about the the
abandoned car stuff and he he sort of

804
01:08:13,359 --> 01:08:20,319
was asking what not asking but
questioned whether we knew where the

805
01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:23,679
town's property was on that fall street
lot.

806
01:08:21,679 --> 01:08:28,080
» They do because we bought it. I mean
they have a survey. We we bought that

807
01:08:25,359 --> 01:08:32,080
house. There was a boundary survey.
>> Oh, yeah. That Yeah, there was when they

808
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:35,759
bought it on a war miracle. There sure
is.

809
01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:39,600
» So, that was that was there's like sort
of three areas in town. I'm wondering

810
01:08:37,679 --> 01:08:43,440
about such boundary surveys. And this is
a more this is more just a question. The

811
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:51,120
other one was Scott's port because I
know there's the um concerns right now

812
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:55,279
about the propane tanks that um I guess
could be I they're I don't who who knows

813
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:59,120
where they Are they in the public right
away or are they in the building owner's

814
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:03,839
property? Like is there a survey that
the town possesses that the link that

815
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:10,880
actually defines where the town's
property is to help push that along? And

816
01:09:07,440 --> 01:09:15,759
also I think knowing that the exact
location of that right away could help

817
01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:22,640
again with
um that block building and figuring out

818
01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:28,880
more long term what if anything the town
can do to assist with each of those

819
01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:32,880
tenants to make those
more I guess developable for lack of a

820
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:39,759
better term
or with utility is

821
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:46,960
organ izing it essentially that
what is in the deeds listed as a private

822
01:09:43,440 --> 01:09:50,560
rightway but the public right away you
know so

823
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:56,080
um
so the town's rightway is very well

824
01:09:52,719 --> 01:10:00,640
delineated and the building owner just
bought that his property lines those

825
01:09:58,159 --> 01:10:06,080
tanks are on his property they they are
clearly on his property by every survey

826
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:08,320
he possesses even though they're not his
tanks

827
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:10,560
But they are on.
>> So, so the town has nothing to do with

828
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,560
that then
>> unfortunately.

829
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:17,040
» Yeah.
>> Okay. I guess that was I guess that was

830
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:21,600
that if that's the case and that answers
my question as to whether for town, you

831
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:26,480
know, ought to be involved in that
situation to begin with. It's not not

832
01:10:23,679 --> 01:10:30,640
exactly involving the town right away.
So, that was Yeah,

833
01:10:28,239 --> 01:10:34,560
» that was what uh
>> we've had several meetings with all the

834
01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:38,560
different players. Jeff even had another
meeting with them last week trying to

835
01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:44,560
help smooth it out from our side.
Cameron Street says 26 feet more or less

836
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:49,040
63 feet more or less.
>> So that's where I think a professional

837
01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:52,800
land surveyor would be able to put a pin
in the ground and say this is the

838
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:55,800
property line. This is this is
>> yeah

839
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:06,000
there are four dot surveys
that clearly show it. There's a deed

840
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:13,280
from 1933 that says it goes two feet off
of the foundation of civil consultants

841
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:16,400
building as well as off of that pharmacy
building. Um

842
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:21,360
» that's the problem.
>> So that Yeah. So that

843
01:11:17,679 --> 01:11:24,000
» and you have Mark Lauren arguing it.
>> Yeah.

844
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:28,640
Okay. So
>> that meeting

845
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:35,040
» Yeah. Then I got dropped and on the Zoom
call. But I I mean he was really being

846
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:40,960
ganged up on from what I was hearing
online and

847
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:46,480
my personal experiences
the professional that's supposed to be

848
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:52,080
able to read these signs,
but the DOT really has it clearly laid

849
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:57,040
out and the survey goes back to the
written description. So they found it,

850
01:11:54,080 --> 01:12:02,000
too. I found it. It's all mine.
So we're it's it's a catch 22 and right

851
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:05,760
now Cameron's being nice. My suggestion
was hook a truck to pull. They're on my

852
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:09,280
property. They wouldn't be there.
>> Yeah. Cameron's being more from

853
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:12,800
» Yeah. Can I add a little bit more
effective services?

854
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:16,719
» Yeah. More from the I say the
perspective of finding, you know, where

855
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:19,360
where the town owns so that the town
knows what what they are or are not

856
01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:24,840
getting into.
>> And we don't want to take away other

857
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,840
businesses either.

858
01:12:26,159 --> 01:12:31,040
if I may. Mr.
>> Yeah, you you can because I'm biting my

859
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:36,960
lip on what Jen just said, but I I
respect it too much to answer that back.

860
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:39,920
Um, so yeah, as Jen mentions, we've had
discussions. We've facilitated

861
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:45,920
discussions. They've been really
constructive. I want to acknowledge

862
01:12:42,480 --> 01:12:52,000
thank everybody who's been involved. Uh,
and yes, there's a part of this that is

863
01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:57,440
between businesses. It's a private
matter. I have seen the town role as

864
01:12:54,960 --> 01:13:03,760
three three things. One is as a
presumptive owner of Scottsport.

865
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:08,640
Number two, any changes made, we want to
of course make sure they are to code

866
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:12,880
within our authority. And number three,
we have a general economic development

867
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:17,360
interest in making sure our businesses
are happy and that disputes are

868
01:13:15,199 --> 01:13:22,400
resolved. There's a sense of urgency
here because of the specific

869
01:13:20,719 --> 01:13:30,000
communications that have occurred
between from one business to others with

870
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:36,719
regard to a worry that
gas could be cut off abruptly to a

871
01:13:32,719 --> 01:13:42,560
business and to tenants who are uh who
are you know about to experience cold

872
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:46,400
weather. So that's why we wanted to
respond to that sense of urgency, get

873
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:53,600
all everybody in the same room to
discuss it. And I don't see

874
01:13:51,199 --> 01:14:00,320
I don't see the I actually see the the
debate about where the property line is

875
01:13:56,480 --> 01:14:05,760
as as secondary to this discussion
because after all it's not just the

876
01:14:02,480 --> 01:14:11,920
tanks. The gas line is affixed to the
wall of the pharmacy building and it

877
01:14:08,239 --> 01:14:17,040
seems very clear that Cameron owns his
own wall. So even if you debate about if

878
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:24,960
the tanks are his property or not, the
gas line is. So uh I see it as something

879
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:32,000
that can we facilitate a relocation and
so what was discussed was

880
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:37,679
uh a couple of things. One, putting the
tanks behind the building behind Scots

881
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:42,640
Court by the old hardware warehouse.
There are a number of challenges with

882
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:49,760
that. Um so there the alternative was to
get those tanks 2 feet off of the wall.

883
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:56,159
And again that is presuming for the sake
of discussion that Cameron owns two feet

884
01:14:53,040 --> 01:15:00,000
off the wall. Again we can debate that.
We can look to deeds, but it's probably

885
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:06,560
a court of law that would be the only
one who could definitively establish

886
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:11,199
that. So, but if we assume that he does,
then we can talk constructively. So,

887
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:15,679
moving the tanks two feet off the wall
or more,

888
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:22,800
still maintaining adequate clearance on
Scott's Court for all kinds of vehicles,

889
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:29,840
and then trenching the line in Scott's
Court. Um, so that's off his wall, goes

890
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:36,560
underground, and uh goes back to 279
Main Street where the gas meters

891
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:41,760
currently are so that those tenants can
not have a disruption of their gas

892
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:47,440
service. So that's what we talked about.
We are hoping that the parties can, you

893
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:54,480
know, express a preference for what they
want to do. We think that there's a way

894
01:15:50,719 --> 01:16:01,520
to reconfigure those tanks to basically
address everybody's needs for the most

895
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:06,000
part. I think we're just waiting for Mr.
Mercier to, you know, give us his

896
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:11,719
preference for what we discussed.
>> I think he did like about hundred times

897
01:16:08,719 --> 01:16:11,719
not

898
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:20,480
» he doesn't want him there. He can't he
can't heat his own building because he

899
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:25,040
can't flood the condenser where the
heating company

900
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:30,000
has proposed putting it because it's
less expensive for him, the guy that

901
01:16:27,679 --> 01:16:36,960
owns the building and his tenants
upstairs right now don't have heat

902
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:43,520
either. So, but there is a another fuel
company that quickly proposed another

903
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:48,080
option. However, the building owner
doesn't want to look at that.

904
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:53,120
» Which building owner?
I'm confused about what building owner

905
01:16:51,440 --> 01:16:54,480
» not Cameron. Not Cameron.
>> Not Cameron.

906
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,600
» Okay.
>> And not Cat either. The owner of

907
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,920
something.
>> Yeah. It's [clears throat] not It's not

908
01:16:58,480 --> 01:17:05,840
Cat.
>> Yep. Well, I I thank you for that

909
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:11,920
summary. I appreciate it. And you guys
work to try and help resolve that. Um,

910
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:15,360
I'm wondering
uh I was thinking when I started

911
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:21,280
thinking about this, I was thinking too
about the f just like the future and

912
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:27,520
trying to make that a little easier to
develop because obviously this is this

913
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:34,880
is a decade old thing, right? So it's
like um my initial thought and why I

914
01:17:32,480 --> 01:17:39,600
brought the boundary survey up was that
that would be to behind the building

915
01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:43,760
because everyone's property bust that
rightway behind the building and if that

916
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:49,280
rightway was wide enough and there was
some sort of way the town could

917
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:55,679
if it if it was wide enough for
emergency vehicles grant some grant some

918
01:17:53,679 --> 01:18:03,360
an easement behind the building instead
of to that side for those uh tenants and

919
01:17:59,440 --> 01:18:07,920
owners to place their utilities. Um that
was

920
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:14,159
my brief thought and uh again thank you
for the discussion but sounds like

921
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:18,320
everything's working towards
it's it's working good.

922
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:23,920
» Yes, Joel.
>> Okay. um uh reporting my last talk with

923
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:27,920
the counselors that I had on August 29th
had over 13 residents attend uh people

924
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:32,800
had a lot of thoughts on our thing. It
was a great conversation. We do have our

925
01:18:30,159 --> 01:18:36,640
next one scheduled for September 26th
and I don't know if we have anyone

926
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,960
for that yet.
>> I volunteered.

927
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:41,760
» Okay, we have Paul
>> nobody knows that.

928
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:47,679
» That's okay. That was one of one of one
of the plays was uh get the information

929
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:50,239
out there sooner be anything like that.
of 2012.

930
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:57,360
» What's the date?
>> 26th.

931
01:18:52,960 --> 01:19:02,239
» Uh 9 9:30 9:30. I I had to do 10 because
I wasn't available before then. Um Jesus

932
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:07,679
just earlier budget listening session
next Tuesday. Um 6 p.m. in this room.

933
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:10,800
Very excited for that. Strawberry
Festival is looking for volunteers.

934
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:15,760
There's a meeting here at 6 p.m. on
October 19th. And also if you are

935
01:19:13,679 --> 01:19:20,520
interested in being a pole worker on
November 3rd, please reach out to Monus

936
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:25,840
» Valerie.
>> Um I just have something that a resident

937
01:19:24,159 --> 01:19:31,199
had brought to my attention that I think
the council the planning board like all

938
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:35,440
everyone should be aware of. Um there is
a proposed project in Berwick just over

939
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:39,360
the border of 500 Portland Street. It
involves AT process technologies, a

940
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:44,000
company developed and testing modular
equipment used in the product production

941
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:47,280
of energetic materials. Um, I will just
be very transparent that I do not have

942
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:50,560
all the specific information on this.
I'm just alerting us to this. Um, based

943
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:53,760
on the company's job descriptions and
job postings, the work appears to

944
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:57,760
involve hazardous chemistry, pilot scale
production, testing, and safety systems

945
01:19:55,679 --> 01:20:01,600
associated with energetic materials. I
want to be really careful not to

946
01:19:59,440 --> 01:20:04,080
overstate what I know, what we know, or
suggest that Southgard has any

947
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:08,000
jurisdiction over this because this is
technically a Burwick land use decision,

948
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:11,040
but potential impacts don't necessarily
stop at town lines. And I think that

949
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:14,239
this is something that we should as a
community be paying attention to. Um,

950
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:18,800
there's reasonable questions about
trucks, hazardous material routes,

951
01:20:16,239 --> 01:20:22,080
emergency response, delayed groundwater,
service water impacts, air emissions

952
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:26,960
noise, and what would happen in the
event of an accident. There is a public

953
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:31,360
hearing in Berwick to um on the third,
what day is it? The 8th on the 10th and

954
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:34,480
two days from now in Berwick um for this
issue. I would really encourage

955
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:40,320
residents um who are interested to
review the application um and attend um

956
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:43,840
or at least pay attention to the public
hearing. I'm hoping to be there. Um and

957
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:47,520
simply just from a conference
perspective, I just think it's

958
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:50,560
appropriate for us to determine
and this is a maybe an open question.

959
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:54,960
This is a situation that I've not
experienced. Is it appropriate for us to

960
01:20:53,120 --> 01:21:01,520
formally request information from
Farwick about this project given the

961
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:05,600
proximity? Um
yeah who anyone just wanted to bring

962
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:09,280
this to everyone's attention. Um I don't
know Paul is with your past experience

963
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:12,960
is there anything?
>> Um I think we can do that anytime but

964
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:17,679
particularly if anything crosses well we
saw the town line it crosses the line if

965
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:22,400
they break the property does affect
cost. Would it be appropriate for us to

966
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:27,600
like I don't know if it's a council or
as a town or the planning board or one

967
01:21:25,679 --> 01:21:31,679
of our organizations to reach out to the
bar planning department requesting

968
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:37,360
additional information on this project.
I'm just like really unsure of how we

969
01:21:33,679 --> 01:21:42,320
navigate and and move them if we need.
>> I can start call the target agenda.

970
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:47,280
» That would be great.
>> And if anyone has any other suggestions

971
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:49,360
um I will try to attend on Thursday if I
have possible. If not, I'll try to catch

972
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:55,360
it after the fact.
>> What's the name of the project?

973
01:21:51,199 --> 01:21:59,679
» Um, ATP AT process technologies. This
was there was a post on a Burwick

974
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:02,960
Facebook page about this just to also be
transparent about it. Um, so like the

975
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:06,000
information that I've got is fairly
limited. Um, but again, just want to

976
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:11,920
make sure it's on everyone's radar.
>> It's on Facebook. It's true.

977
01:22:09,679 --> 01:22:16,560
» And that's that's all that I have.
>> All right. Uh, I have two. So, just

978
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:21,840
letting the public know. Thursday night
5:30 we will have a executive session

979
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:27,360
Zoom meeting with MRI. They are the firm
that we hired to go out and search for a

980
01:22:23,679 --> 01:22:30,960
new town manager for us. Um that meeting
invite will be sent out. Thank you

981
01:22:29,199 --> 01:22:37,920
ladies. I appreciate that. That way it
gets done right and I don't mess it up.

982
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:42,080
Uh second thing going down that road, uh
Valerie and I again are done in in three

983
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:47,679
meetings. the way this is lining up for
the town council. Uh

984
01:22:45,679 --> 01:22:52,560
we're not going to be here when it's
voted in. I know we've had talk about us

985
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:57,600
sitting in as consultants, which is
great. We both agreed to that, but I

986
01:22:55,199 --> 01:23:03,120
would like to turn over the
responsibilities of dealing with Allen

987
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:09,679
at MRI to uh councelor Schumacher. He
has 30 plus without dating you years in

988
01:23:06,639 --> 01:23:15,199
the municipal government with SNPDC and
that way it stays consistent with when

989
01:23:12,480 --> 01:23:22,840
Mallerie and I leave. He's your guys be
on going forward with MRI if that's okay

990
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:22,840
with the rest of the council.

991
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:31,280
» Beautiful. You're tag. I already told
that one. Uh

992
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:35,960
» moving on from there. That's all I have.
We are ajourned. Thank you, Hershey.