1 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:28,960 Good. Afternoon. Today is October What is today's date? 2 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:33,520 Today is October 15th and it is 6:02 p.m. and I call this meeting to order. 3 00:07:31,199 --> 00:07:37,120 This is an eight member board appointed by the city of South Fton's mayor and 4 00:07:35,039 --> 00:07:40,639 city council to hold public hearings to make recommendations on resoning, use 5 00:07:39,199 --> 00:07:44,960 permits, concurrent variance applications, comp uh comp land use 6 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:48,560 plans, maps, and amendments to the zoning resolution. The applicants or 7 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:52,319 proponents of each case will be allowed a total of 10 minutes to present their 8 00:07:50,319 --> 00:07:55,440 case. Since the burden of proof is upon the applicants to convince the board 9 00:07:53,599 --> 00:07:58,800 that the application should be approved, they may choose to reserve some of their 10 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,840 time for a rebuttal. Following the proponent's presentation, any 11 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:05,039 individuals in opposition will have a total of 10 minutes to present their 12 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:08,800 position. If multiple people will speak in opposition, you should organize 13 00:08:06,639 --> 00:08:13,360 yourselves as to allow everyone to speak in the 10-minute time frame. Opposition 14 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:16,720 is not permitted rebuttal time. If you wish to address the commission on the 15 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:20,639 case, you must fill out a comment card and indicate whether you are a proponent 16 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:24,800 or an opponent of a case. If you are not sure whether you are not uh if you are 17 00:08:22,639 --> 00:08:29,199 not sure whether you are whether you are not whether you are a proponent or an 18 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:33,599 opponent, you must fill out an opponent comment card. The commission will take 19 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:37,039 two votes on each application. The first vote is on the findings of fact as 20 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:41,279 presented by staff. The second vote is for approval, denial, or deferral of the 21 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:44,880 application. It is the second vote that determines the board's recommendation to 22 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:49,120 city council. These same matters will be heard by city council at a public 23 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:52,320 hearing. Um there are a couple of council meetings coming up. So we'll 24 00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:56,160 just address those as they come up for each case and then they will be voted on 25 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:59,360 at that actual council meeting. Please refrain from any verbal outbursts during 26 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,399 the public hearing and please only address the commission during the 27 00:09:00,399 --> 00:09:07,480 designated public comment time. We will proceed with the agenda. Staff, can you 28 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,480 please call the role? 29 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,320 Commissioner Perry, >> present. 30 00:09:16,959 --> 00:09:20,000 » Commissioner Remond Jones, >> present. 31 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,600 » Commissioner Jefferson, >> present. 32 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,160 » Commissioner Williams, >> present. 33 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,920 » Commissioner Devon, Commissioner Price, 34 00:09:25,279 --> 00:09:29,760 » present. >> Commissioner McGeeham. 35 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,279 » Commissioner Smith Vickers, >> present. 36 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,640 » We have quum. >> Thank you so much. 37 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,760 Commissioners, you've had a chance to review tonight's agenda. Can I get a 38 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:41,440 motion to approve the agenda as presented? 39 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:45,080 » I make a motion that we approve the agenda as presented. 40 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:50,480 » It's been properly moved and seconded. Can you please call the role? 41 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,920 » Commissioner Perry, >> I. 42 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,279 » Commissioner Rean Jones, >> I. 43 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,640 » Commissioner Jefferson, >> I. 44 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,360 » Commissioner Williams, >> I. Commissioner Price, I 45 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,320 » have it. >> Thank you. So, the agenda is approved. 46 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:03,120 Next, we'll move on to the minutes from the last planning commission meeting. 47 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:06,800 Commissioners, are there any corrections or edits to the minutes? 48 00:10:15,839 --> 00:10:21,839 hearing. >> Hearing none. Can I get a motion to 49 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:25,839 approve the minutes? >> So moved. 50 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,399 » Second. >> It's been properly moved and seconded. 51 00:10:27,279 --> 00:10:29,839 Can you please call the role? >> Commissioner Perry. 52 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,279 » I. >> Commissioner Rean Jones. 53 00:10:30,959 --> 00:10:32,640 » I. >> Commissioner Jefferson. 54 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,120 » I. >> Commissioner Williams. 55 00:10:33,680 --> 00:10:38,880 » I. Commissioner Price. >> I th have it. 56 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:42,560 » Thank you so much. Those minutes are approved. Now, we're going to move on to 57 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:48,320 our cases for the night. We have uh 58 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:52,560 technically two cases that we're going to be really speaking about tonight. Um 59 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:56,640 we can go ahead and start with U25-01 since that's already on the agenda. Um 60 00:10:54,640 --> 00:11:01,440 I'll have staff speak on that. That case was withdrawn um last night at the 61 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:05,920 council meeting. >> Yes. This case U25-011, 62 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:09,200 the address was 5540 or National Highway. They were seeking a special use 63 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:12,880 permit to extend the existing daycare hours for an existing daycare. City 64 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:16,399 council did vote at their meeting last night to withdraw that case. So there 65 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:23,040 will be no action needed for this item. >> Thank you so much staff. 66 00:11:20,079 --> 00:11:28,320 So ne next we have C25-024 67 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:34,240 U25-007 as well as CDP25-009 68 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:38,320 and the applicant is also requesting a withdrawal. Um staff, can you go ahead 69 00:11:36,399 --> 00:11:43,440 and speak about that as well? >> Yes. Case Z25-024 70 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:47,200 along with a special use permit U25007 along with a comprehensive development 71 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:51,839 plan amendment 25-009. The address was zero stone wall tail. 72 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:56,880 The applicant was seeking a resoning from AG1 to C2 to operate a gasoline 73 00:11:54,959 --> 00:12:00,079 station with a dining and retail complex along with a future lang use amendment 74 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:04,399 from rural neighborhood to community live work on 4.89 acres. We did receive 75 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:08,800 an email from the applicant stating that they wish to withdraw this case. 76 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:12,959 Therefore, we uh recommend that uh you all vote for a deferral and then it will 77 00:12:10,959 --> 00:12:17,519 be voted on for withdrawal at the city council meeting on November 12th. 78 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:21,600 Thank you so much, Matthew. Um, so, commissioners, with that being said, for 79 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:26,399 these three cases, um, I recommend we go ahead and, um, 80 00:12:24,639 --> 00:12:29,360 Matthew, do we need to We don't need to do stats find the facts, right? Because 81 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:34,959 we're just doing a deferral. Okay, cool. Um, so I recommend that we go ahead and 82 00:12:32,959 --> 00:12:37,760 um, proceed forward with that motion for a deferral since it's going to be 83 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:43,760 withdrawn anyways. No need to open up a public hearing tonight. Um, is there a 84 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:48,959 motion to uh defer this uh to defer these three cases to the it'll be either 85 00:12:46,399 --> 00:12:53,560 the October 28th or November 12th Maring Council meeting. They're not exactly 86 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,560 sure yet. 87 00:12:53,920 --> 00:13:00,480 I move that Z2524 U25. 88 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,480 » Thank you. >> CP2009. 89 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:14,240 » Um, his microphone is not working. >> Oh, got it. Perfect. Okay, sweet. 90 00:13:12,560 --> 00:13:17,600 » Point of clarification. I'm sorry. So, you technically can't defer it to a city 91 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,800 council meeting. you have to defer to your next planning commission meeting 92 00:13:18,639 --> 00:13:23,760 with the understanding that city council will take this item up at the November 93 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:30,320 12th meeting for withdrawal. >> Okay. I move that Z25-024 94 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:34,160 U25-00007 CDP25-009 95 00:13:32,639 --> 00:13:38,639 be deferred to the next planning commission meeting on November 96 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,040 19th. >> Is there a second? 97 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:44,160 » Second. >> It's been properly moved and seconded. 98 00:13:42,399 --> 00:13:46,959 Can you please call the role? >> Commissioner Perry. Commissioner Rean 99 00:13:46,399 --> 00:13:48,399 Jones. >> Hi, 100 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,880 » Commissioner Jefferson. >> Hi, 101 00:13:49,279 --> 00:13:52,560 » Commissioner Price. >> I, 102 00:13:51,279 --> 00:13:56,800 » Commissioner Williams, >> I. The eyes have it. 103 00:13:54,480 --> 00:14:02,160 » Thank you so much. And now we'll move on to our new business, which is U25-012 104 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:05,880 4285 Roosevelt Highway. Staff, can you please present the staff report? 105 00:14:08,399 --> 00:14:15,680 » Yes. KCU2500012. The address is 4285 Roosevelt Highway. 106 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:19,760 The applicant is requesting a special use permit to operate a um for a 107 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:23,519 gasoline station with a convenience store to expand the existing facility 108 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:29,839 for an additional retail space and two new restrooms. The current zoning is C2 109 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:34,160 and M2 um at again 4285 Roosevelt Highway. Staff is recommending approval. 110 00:14:31,839 --> 00:14:41,279 And just uh some clarification, this is a parcel that contains two zoning 111 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:44,639 districts uh M2 and C2. Um I don't believe we have a but in your st in the 112 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:52,399 staff request it should be a zoning map that shows the two ca the two zonings on 113 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:56,480 the one parcel. Um we believe that we have a policy that whichever zoning 114 00:14:54,560 --> 00:15:01,440 takes up the majority of the parcel is what that zoning is. So we consider this 115 00:14:58,399 --> 00:15:04,639 a M2 zoning and that gas stations aren't allowed in M2 zoning. So that's why they 116 00:15:02,959 --> 00:15:07,880 need a special use permit to operate and to expand. 117 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,519 Happy birthday. 118 00:15:20,079 --> 00:15:24,560 » Thank you so much. Is the applicant here? 119 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,760 » I am. >> Okay, cool. Can you come up to the 120 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,760 podium? 121 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:37,440 » Good evening. Good evening. Um, okay. Can you go ahead and um say your 122 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,480 first and last name and address for the record? 123 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,399 » My name is Quinn Bennett and I'm the architect of record on behalf of the 124 00:15:41,839 --> 00:15:45,279 owner. >> Okay. Thank you so much. You can go 125 00:15:44,079 --> 00:15:52,480 ahead, sir. >> Yes. It's a simple um expansion 20 plus 126 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:55,440 feet um to add additional restrooms and um to clean up the store to enhance the 127 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,800 experience. >> My apologies, sir. I forgot to say I was 128 00:15:57,279 --> 00:16:02,639 opening up the public hearing. Just wanted to say that for the record. So, 129 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:07,279 the public hearing is now open. So there's, you know, it's basically a 130 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:12,720 comprehensive remodel. The building will be completely gutted out and, you know, 131 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:17,519 the total doover um to enhance the experience for all I you know, all the 132 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:22,399 foot travel that comes into the store because it does get quite a bit of foot 133 00:16:19,279 --> 00:16:27,759 travel. And you know, customers, they they like the space, they like the food 134 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:33,519 there, but um it they do complain about it being dirty. So, it was time for the 135 00:16:29,759 --> 00:16:37,839 owner to kind of upgrade everything. So, we have an ADA um sink that we're 136 00:16:36,399 --> 00:16:43,000 adding and bringing everything up to code. Um it it's pretty straightforward. 137 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:51,680 » This is his lot. >> So, that's the new store and we're 138 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:58,399 expanding expanding roughly 24 ft to the right of the existing um exit door at 139 00:16:55,759 --> 00:17:05,399 the rear of the building. So, new counter, um, a a better kitchen 140 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,319 if you go to the right. 141 00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:18,079 So, you also have a new game room. So, it it's more of the same thing. You 142 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:23,360 know, the space is very cramped, cluttered. You know, not everything fit 143 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:29,559 fitted on the shelf. and and they you know they're offering 144 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,559 a more enhanced experience. 145 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:45,240 I open the floor for any questions. >> Thank you so much. Sure. You can take a 146 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:45,240 seat for now. Do we have any cards? 147 00:17:46,799 --> 00:17:54,160 » It looks like we only had one speaker card and that was for the applicant. No 148 00:17:51,919 --> 00:17:58,160 one in opposition. >> Thank you so much. So, at this time, 149 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:02,320 I'll close the public hearing. Um, Commissioner, do you have any questions 150 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:07,760 for the applicant? Okay. >> Commissioner Perry, I recognize you. 151 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:09,919 » I just I just want to offer a clarifying question. 152 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:14,960 » Yes, sir. >> Your the establishment is already a gas 153 00:18:12,559 --> 00:18:18,640 station. It's already a gas station >> and what you're asking to do is 154 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:21,760 basically clean up the gas station that's already there and add the 155 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:25,039 restrooms. >> Correct. 156 00:18:22,559 --> 00:18:30,160 » Okay. I I say that because I I think y'all are for another case 157 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:35,440 and the case that was already that's being withdrawn. So this this case is 158 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:41,240 just to add bathrooms and clean up the existing convenience store gas station. 159 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,240 » That is correct. 160 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:51,520 Commissioner Williams, I recognize you. >> Um, yes, I have a question for you. 161 00:18:50,799 --> 00:18:56,799 » Yes, ma'am. >> You said enhance the 162 00:18:54,640 --> 00:19:00,559 customer experience. >> Correct. 163 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:02,400 » Okay. So, we're looking at new restrooms, 164 00:19:01,919 --> 00:19:06,720 » correct? >> Right. Um, you said the counter. 165 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,919 » Yes. >> Right. 166 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:13,679 Can you tell me more about this game room? 167 00:19:10,799 --> 00:19:18,559 » So, the game room is a result of the fact that the store is very much 168 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:23,360 unorganized. It has game machines all over the space and and I thought it 169 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:26,880 would be a good idea to actually clean that up so everybody can move through 170 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:31,360 the aisle cuz that's kind of a life safety issue in the event of a fire. I 171 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:36,880 don't need anybody tripping to get out of the space. So, um, you had where the 172 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:41,360 aisles are, where the merchandise is, you had game machines. And to me, that's 173 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:47,039 a code violation. >> So, I kind of separated the two and and 174 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:52,960 added a game room for the gamers. So, for to move their already existing 175 00:19:49,280 --> 00:20:01,039 machines into one central location. Is the owner open to maybe some other um 176 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:05,120 enhancements? Maybe something that is beneficial to 177 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:09,360 um more of a and and and I know I don't 178 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:12,360 want to sound judgmental, but more of a um 179 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:23,200 options that are not just games. And and when I say games, because these 180 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,480 are the the the the slot machines, right? 181 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:30,320 » That's correct. >> Right. So, is the owner open to 182 00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:36,880 providing some other enhancements that speak to maybe healthier food 183 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:40,640 options or maybe get rid of some of the packaged goods and and bring some other 184 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:45,640 enhancements in? >> That is something I think he would be 185 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,640 open to. 186 00:20:45,919 --> 00:20:52,000 » Has he talked to the community and the residents that that actually come in to 187 00:20:49,919 --> 00:20:55,360 his store? has he talked to the customers? 188 00:20:52,559 --> 00:21:00,480 » Well, based on the community meeting I held, which didn't have a they had a 189 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:05,200 poor turnout, by the way, um the folks I did speak with um they were pretty much 190 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,520 there for the food that was already being served. 191 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,880 » Okay. >> And they seem to be happy with that. 192 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:13,200 » I mean, it's always it's it's always good to ask though because you never 193 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,520 know, right? >> We did have that conversation. 194 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,520 » Okay. So, >> good to know. Good to know. 195 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:23,600 » Thank you. >> Yes, ma'am. 196 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:30,080 Commissioners, are there any other questions for the applicant? No. 197 00:21:28,159 --> 00:21:33,840 Okay. So, hearing that, we'll go ahead and 198 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:38,880 close this public hearing and we will move on to status finance effect. So, 199 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:42,320 I'll need a motion for that to approve or deny staff findings effect. 200 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:45,039 » I make a motion to approve staff's finding of facts. 201 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:48,000 » A second. >> It's been properly moved and seconded. 202 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,640 Can you please call the role? >> Commissioner Perry. 203 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,320 » I. Commissioner Re Jones. >> I, 204 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:54,159 » Commissioner Jefferson, >> I. 205 00:21:52,799 --> 00:21:55,679 » Commissioner Williams, >> I. 206 00:21:54,559 --> 00:21:57,520 » Commissioner Price, >> I. 207 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:02,240 » Eyes have it. >> Thank you so much. And the next vote is 208 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:08,640 going to be is going to be to approve, deny, or defer um U25-02. Is there a 209 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:13,159 motion? >> I'll move to approve U25-012. 210 00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:20,480 Um, I move to approve that. >> Second. 211 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:22,880 It's been properly moved and seconded. Can you please call the role? 212 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,880 » Commissioner Perry, >> I. 213 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:26,400 » Commissioner Reven, I. >> Commissioner Jefferson, 214 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,039 » I. >> Commissioner Williams, I. 215 00:22:27,919 --> 00:22:31,919 » Commissioner Price, >> I. 216 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:36,159 » The eyes have it. >> Thank you so much. And Matthew, what 217 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:38,640 meeting would this go to for the council? 218 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:42,400 » The November 12th council meeting. >> Okay. So, this will be heard at the 219 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:46,480 November 12th council meeting. And this concludes our cases for the night. Can I 220 00:22:44,559 --> 00:22:52,480 get a motion? Oh, >> I move that we adjourn. Yes. Thank you 221 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:53,520 so much. Yes. Can I get a second? >> Second. 222 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,120 » Second. >> Okay. 223 00:22:54,559 --> 00:23:03,480 » Okay. Well, this meeting is adjourned at 6:17 p.m. You all have a good night. 224 00:22:59,679 --> 00:23:03,480 » I tried to push it out.