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As well as those that are on Zoom, I understand that this topic can be a little contentious, but if we can please, please, show that we are respectful, and that this is the safe place so that we can hear everyone's concerns. So with that, Madam City Clerk, it is Southgate Special City Council meeting for Monday, June 26th at 5.30 p.m. Please roll call, please. Mayor Obelis.

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Vice Mayor Tadal.

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President.

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Council Member Davila.

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President.

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Council Member Barron.

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President.

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Council Member Teos.

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President.

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City Treasurer de la Paz.

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City Manager Duffers.

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He's here.

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City Attorney Salinas.

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President.

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President of the Government Code Section 54952.3.

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Disclosure of Compensation for Meeting Attendance.

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Vice City Council Members.

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It's $790 monthly regardless of the amount of meetings.

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Thank you, Madam City Clerk. So at this time, I would like to direct. If you need translation,

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there's headphones in the back.

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Thank you, Madame City Clerk.

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And following the conclusion of a public hearing, the City Council will consider awaiting

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the reading and full and proving the introduction of an ordinance and menu provisions of the South

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gave municipal pertaining to sidewalk vendor section 2.10.150 business requiring a business permit and section 2.10970 sidewalk

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funding program of chapter 2.10 business regulation of the title to licenses businesses regulations and section 7.39.010 salesman more

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motorized vehicle on city streets prohibited of chapter 7.9 sales from non-motorized vehicles

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of the city streets prohibited, except rain city-sponsored events of Title 7 public safety

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and morals, Consection 8.14, 0.010, unlawful parking, peddlers, vendors, and vehicles advertised

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for sale or rent of chapter 8.14 on lawful parking,

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peddlers, spenders, and vehicles advertised for sale or rent.

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A sato 8 traffic of the Southgate Municipal Code and to be determining that the proposed ordinance

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is exempt, pursuant to section 1506B2 and B3 and 1308 of the California Environmental Quality

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Act.

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Thank you, Madam City clerk. So at this one, I'd like to turn it over to our city attorney for on sunnyness.

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Thank you very much, man mayor. We have a presentation this evening from Jim Eckhart who has worked with the city staff to prepare the ordinance.

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And so a number of changes to made in Sacramento with respect to the ordinance.

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The city has an existing vendor ordinance on its books.

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The ordinance is actually what we have on the books right now is more restrictive than what the city staff and

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the city attorney's office is recommending here it's intended to bring us into compliance with the state law.

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changes that have been made. I encourage the audience and the public to please pay

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attention to the sidewalk-bending presentation that we're going to be making at

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this time. Just a couple of additional comments here because there's been some

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misleading information out on social media. The product of this ordinance has

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been driven by city staff and it has been driven by legal counsel here consulting with city staff

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and what is legal and what is permissible under the state. It has not been driven by any particular

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member of the city council. In fact, in September of 2022, the governor signed Senate bill 972 that

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made it easier for street vendors to obtain permits.

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It also allows for street vendors to operate in areas

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that were once not permitted.

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It is for the more, this is in compliance

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with Section 946, which in essence decriminalize

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this street vendor.

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So there's nothing in this ordinance

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that makes a street vendor a criminal.

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There's no criminal repercussions

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that will flow from this particular ordinance.

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I want to make sure that is put out there in the public.

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like all of the five council members are

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To participate in this discussion, none of them own any businesses within the city of Southgate. I think it's important for us to state the facts here. At some point in time, the public will be allowed to make comments to the city council. Those comments are intended to be directed to the city council. You will be interrupted if those comments are directed to any member of the public.

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public because it is it's important to maintain the respect that should be given to the members

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of the public who have decided to come here and hear their voices heard. So you are encouraged

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to be courteous and to respect the process that is permitted by the Brown Act. We encourage

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your compliance with that. At this point, Madam Mayor, I have no further comments.

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So what's going to do the president? Jim Eckert, our city prosecutor is online and he will be going through this PowerPoint presentation.

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A number of comments about Mr. Eckert, if I may, Madam Mayor. Mr. Eckert represents the number of cities throughout the Los Angeles County area.

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He's probably the one lawyer that represents more cities when it comes to this particular topic area than I could think.

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He is in my, he is, excuse me, excuse me,

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he is, he is one of the most experienced attorneys

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in this area.

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We're going to be hearing from him and we have prepared a presentation to explain what

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this ordinance is at that time.

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Thank you, Madame Mayor.

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Mr. Eckhart, can you do a sound check for us?

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Yes.

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Thank you very much.

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Can you hear me?

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Yes.

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Yes, we can hear you to ask you to speak a little louder, please.

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Excellent.

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Well, Madam Mayor and Honorable Council members, thank you for this opportunity.

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My job today is to present to you some information regarding a sidewalk vending specifically the proposed

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ordinance before you.

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I don't know if we have the power point up.

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It is.

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Okay.

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And I can't see it on my screen.

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If I can have you on the city clerk, if I can have you, please let me know when to switch slides. I'll do that for you.

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You can't see the slides.

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Okay. I see it now.

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And can everybody still hear me? Yes.

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Okay. Perfect. So as we go through this as I indicated, an ordinance is being presented to the city council tonight for introduction, which is meant to amend the current regulations that the city currently has.

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So as we go through this, if we can, I'll just say next as we go through the next one and then if we can advance it. So next.

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Madam City clerk, if we can go to the next slide.

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Jim just one second and look out that detail.

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All right, members of the public again, I would ask you to please maintain the decorum here while we work this thing out.

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So that all voices and all perspectives can be heard this evening. I'd ask for your respect in that process.

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take a quick reason.

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We're going to go ahead and take a five minute recess so that we can get in our technology

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straightened out.

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So Mr. Acker, if you could please stay on the line.

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Thank you.

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Of course.

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His name is James Eckert, ECK-ART.

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Mr. Edgert? Yes. Can you see the slideshow moving? I can, yes. Okay, it's working. Thank you.

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Jim, we're still in recess. We'll pick it up in just a second. Okay, no worries.

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Alrighty, Madam City Clerk, let's go ahead and resume. All right, Jim, we're back from recess right now. If I can ask the audience to please be quiet so we can hear the presentation. Please go ahead, Jim. Thank you.

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So just a brief history in September of 2018, our state adopted what we call the Safe

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Sidewalk Vending Act.

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It's commonly known as Senate Bill 946.

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And the purpose of that was to create a statewide program whereby sidewalk vending would

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be brought into our economy.

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It was to remove all criminal penalties, specifically because there were some adverse consequences

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in the immigration side of things for many of the sidewalk vendors that operate it throughout the state of California.

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In so doing, the state set out some minimum requirements for these types of programs to allow it within every jurisdiction,

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and that would be charter cities as well as general law cities.

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However, next, if we can go to the next slide, SB 946 did allow for some local regulation.

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However, it imposed limitations on the types of regulations that local jurisdictions, meaning counties and cities, would be able to impose.

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And specifically, the state has indicated that those are what we call time, place, and manner restrictions.

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That is, cities are allowed to impose regulations that affect the time, the place, and the manner in which sidewalk vending can be operated or conducted.

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So long as those regulations are directly related to objective health safety and welfare concerns, and this gets us back to the very title of SB 946, the Safe Sidewalk Vending Act.

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Next, one of the big things that the state of California did do when it granted authorization to the cities to impose local regulations is it specifically prohibited.

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the local community from imposing regulations that are the result of perceived community

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animus or economic competition.

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That is, one of the things that the state wanted to prevent was the city from being

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able to impose regulations that would prohibit a sidewalk vendor of food, for example, from

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operating directly in front of another

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A brick and mortar store, a brick and mortar restaurant that sold similar food, that can't be a basis for the regulation under state law. So everything has to be directly related to objective health safety and welfare concerns. Next slide, please. So we'll go through what some of the current regulations are in the city of Southgate because as I indicated, the proposed ordinance seeks to amend some of these. And what we're going to look at is an overall framework of regulation.

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regulations that this certainly currently imposes on sidewalk vending. Next, please. The first is a business tax license.

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So the city of Southgate along with almost every other jurisdiction within the state of California and the nation imposes a tax upon businesses that operate.

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When we call this to business license, this is a license that is applicable to every business

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with a lunch truck, a catering truck.

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It doesn't matter whether it's an attorney, it doesn't matter whether it's a doctor

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or an apartment manager, brick and mortar or a tenor and vendors.

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It doesn't matter.

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It applies to every single business.

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And this is what one of the regulations that would apply under our current code to sidewalk

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vendors.

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Next, the next type of regulation that is applicable under the current framework that's

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encompassed in the Southgate Municipal Code is a regulatory permit.

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So aside from the tax license, the business license, on certain types of business activities,

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the city requires a regulatory permit.

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And sidewalk vending is one of those types of businesses that requires this special regulatory

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permit.

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These regulatory permits, as opposed to the tax license, a business license is really a receipt to show that you have paid the taxes off of the income that you're making from your business.

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The regulatory permit, however, is designed to actually regulate the activity. And that applies to a lot of different types of businesses within our city and sidewalk vending is one of them as our catering trucks and peddlers.

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And again, these types of regulations are directed to address very specific issues that are presented by those specific types of businesses.

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So the regulations that are imposed pursuant to a regulatory permit are not general to all different types of business, but each type of business is regulated by its own type of permit with its own type of regulations next.

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Next, the other component of the Southgate Municipal Code with respect to regulations that

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are imposed for all businesses and specifically sidewalk vendors, obviously includes penalties.

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As a result of SB946, which decriminalized activities with respect to a cities or a local

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sidewalk vending program, penalties are only an administrative fine.

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They are no longer misdemeanors, they are no longer in fractions, and our current code

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addresses this.

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The proposed amendments comply with this.

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We are not seeking to impose any criminal penalties as a result of violations of the

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local sidewalk vending program.

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Other businesses, however, different types of business other than sidewalk vendors are, in

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fact, subject to different types of penalties.

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And those would include administrative fines and fraction citations as well as misdemeanor

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prosecution.

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But, again, as a result of SB 946, those criminal penalties of either infraction or misdemeanor

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are not applicable to sidewalk vendors, and that's mandated by state law.

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And what I want to do now is just go through a couple of definitions that we currently

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have in our code. One would be what a sidewalk vendor is. And I want to go through this only because

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there's often a misconception as to what some of these terms are that we talk about. And it's

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really important that we understand them. So a sidewalk vendor, both under our local law as well

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as under SB946, is a person who is selling food or merchandise from a non-motorized conveyance

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upon a sidewalk or a pedestrian path. And those non-motorized conveyances can be anything from a

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could be off of one's own person, as long as it's a non-motorized means of

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carrying the food or the merchandise which they are selling. And again, it's

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upon a sidewalk or a pedestrian pathway that would include within certain

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parks. Next, we do have two different types of sidewalk vendors. So these are

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subcategories of sidewalk vendors. One is a stationary sidewalk vendor. That's

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vendor who vends from a fixed location, right? They're stationary.

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Next, the other type of vendor is a roaming sidewalk vendor, and this is a vendor that actually moves from place to place, and by law is only allowed to stop to actually complete a sale. But upon completion of the sale, let's continue to move on. Next slide, please.

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So just to show you a few examples of some sidewalk vendors that we have, and if we can do four next so that we can show the four photographs that are up there. These are just some different examples of sidewalk vendors.

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And you can see that they range from people with mobile carts to people with more larger operations, although they're still mobile, they can still be picked up and moved at the end of the night.

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And then some that just have stepped them out on the sidewalk, put them in coolers or other types of again non motorized means of conveyances.

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So these are just some examples of the type of sidewalk vending activities that it's the safe sidewalk vending act as well as our local Southgate municipal code.

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As I indicated, the state of California has set forth some very specific limitations upon the local jurisdictions and their ability to regulate sidewalk vendors.

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And so in going through the proposed ordinance, we just look at what some of the guiding principles are that we look at when we impose these sort of regulations.

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One would obviously be compliance with state law.

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So as the city attorney indicated, we've had a local as in last year, the state enacted SB 972 that Senate bill 972, which is a modification, an amendment of the California retail food code.

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And in many instances, what that did was to make the ability for vendor sidewalk vendors

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of food a little bit easier throughout the state of California, that it is, it has,

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what the state called modernized some of its regulations to ensure that our health codes

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are more in compliance with the type of activity that's being conducted, and that is that we're

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not imposing the exact same requirements on one type of business that is different from

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another type of business, and the state of California views itinerant sidewalk vending

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to be a little different than a brick and mortar restaurant.

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And of course, we want to remain in compliance with SB 946, which is the one that was passed

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in 2018, our Safe Sidewalk Vending Act.

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Next slide, please.

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The other is public health.

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And again, we're talking about what the guiding principles are.

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We want to ensure that our code complies with our local health code, which would include

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the Los Angeles County health code.

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Next slide please.

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Additionally, public safety.

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So again, we're talking the guiding principles, compliance with state law, public health

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and public safety.

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And when we look at public safety, the primary issues that we're looking at is one accessibility

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that is we want to make sure, for example, that our sidewalks and pedestrian pathways still provide passage for those persons that require accessibility, right?

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Now, require either wheelchair or some other type of space, which under ADA, for example, is 36 inches of clearance so that they can utilize our sidewalks.

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The second is to ensure that we have safe sidewalks for the vendors, their patrons, other pedestrians are utilizing those sidewalks, but also motorists who are driving along the local streets that are adjacent to those particular sidewalks.

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So these are the guiding principles that we utilized in proposing the proposed modifications that are set forth in the ordinance.

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Next slide, please.

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So let's look at specifically what we are proposing.

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Next, the purpose of this ordinance primarily is again to streamline some of the procedures

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for business licenses and the business regulatory permits that are applicable sidewalk vendors.

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Under the current ordinance, there was a little bit of crossover between some of the requirements for the tax license versus the regulatory permits.

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So part of the purpose of this ordinance is to streamline those procedures and actually make it a more simple process for those persons who want to come in and get the appropriate permits and licenses to operate as a sidewalk vendor in our city next.

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Secondarily, obviously we want to ensure protections for pedestrian usage of our city sidewalks, and again, this includes ensuring accessible routes along those sidewalks and pedestrian pathways.

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And so some of the regulations that we are looking to modify or amend in the proposed ordinance.

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Are specifically geared towards ensuring safe passage ways and accessibility along our sidewalks and pedestrian paths. Next slide, please. We are also trying to promote, again, safe sidewalk vending operations. And this really gets us back to the purpose behind SB 946. Again, the title of it, safe sidewalk vending act. So we are under the current ordinance. When it was initially drafted,

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back, and I believe it was 2018, there were several areas within the city where sidewalk

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vending activities were just blanketly prohibited.

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And the proposed ordinance is trying to move away from that.

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That is, we're trying to move away from blanket prohibitive areas and rather impose limitations

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that are directly related to safety issues.

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And those are going to be uniform throughout the city, those particular requirements, such

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to safe distances from other sidewalk vendors,

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from the roadway that vehicles are on,

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from driveways to ensure that people have passageway

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into and out of those driveways, public transit stops,

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fire hydrants, traffic control devices,

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things of that nature.

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So again, we are focusing more on

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distance requirements from those things

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to ensure the safe usage of our streets and sidewalks.

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Excuse me.

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Hey Jim, hang on a second.

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Yes, I'm going to again ask the audience here to be respectful of the presentation. We have people listening in on zoom and we have people here in the audience and we need to get through this presentation said everyone understands what this ordinance is.

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The public will have ample opportunity to comment on this after the presentations made. Thank you very much. Jim, please continue.

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Thank you. Thank you. Again, just to reiterate this last point, we are trying to move away from blanket prohibiting areas within our city, which did impose severe restrictions on the areas in which the sidewalk vendor could operate to focusing more on distance requirements that are being imposed to protect the health safety and welfare, again, of not only our pedestrians that are using the sidewalk, but also of the sidewalk

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vendors themselves.

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Next slide, please.

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One of the things that we are doing is we're proposing some amendments to the definition

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of sidewalk vendor, and this is really not imposing a change on the definition of sidewalk

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vendor.

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It's really being done to provide greater clarification so that staff and the vendors themselves understand

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what they can and cannot do.

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So part of what we're doing in this is we're proposing an amendment to the definition

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of a sidewalk vendor to ensure that everybody is aware that sidewalk vending, you know,

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the definition of a sidewalk vendor would explicitly prohibit vendors whose operations and

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whole are in part are taking place on a roadway within an alley, on public or private property,

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whether it's a parking lot, a parking structure, in dedicated bicycle path lanes, in the parkways,

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in roadway medians. These are all areas that were not covered by SB 946. SB 946 was very specific

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that this is meant to allow vending on sidewalks, not on private property, not in the roadway,

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not in roadway medians, not in crosswalks, not on freeway on ramps. And again, many of these things

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are either unsafe. For example, obviously, trying to be a vendor in the middle of a street

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would be unsafe to both vehicular as well as pedestrian traffic. But also we have other

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regulations, which we'll talk about in a second, that would apply to those persons who want

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to vend on private property. So it's not to say that people can't vend on private property.

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It's just that they are not covered on their sidewalk vending. They would be covered

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under our other peddling types of activities assuming that they are

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itinerant and not a brick and mortar operation. Next slide please. So some

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examples of what would not constitute a sidewalk vendor and if we can go

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next slide, sales for motorized vehicles. Now this is not to say that we are doing

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anything that would prohibit sales for motorized vehicles. To the contrary we're

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saying they are not sidewalk vendors. Why? Obviously, if we go back to the definition of a sidewalk

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vendor, they're selling from a motorized conveyance, which is not what a sidewalk vendor is,

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and obviously they're selling on the street. However, we do have other regulations and permitting

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requirements under our Southgate Municipal Code, and those listed up there for you. Very similar to

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a sidewalk vendor, just under different code sections.

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Where we still require them to get a business license, they would need to get a peddler permit, and there's different types of peddling regulations and parking restrictions that they would be subject to. So again, the modifications that we are proposing is to clarify that, for example, this type of an operation would not be a sidewalk vendor, but again, they are things that are still permissible, just subject to different regulations within our municipal code. Next slide, please. Here's other examples of

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of vending that would not be considered sidewalk vending.

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Because neither of these are on the sidewalk.

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As you notice from both of these,

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these are people who are vending on private property,

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whether it's within a parking lot

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or in a grass area or in another portion,

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the bottom one in the gas station.

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These are our vendors on a private property,

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so they're not sidewalk vendors.

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Now, that, again, does not mean that they cannot do this.

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It just means that they're subject to different regulations.

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So part of what we're trying to do is clarify both for staff as well as for the vendors themselves so that they understand that by definition.

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And this is definition that set forth an SB 946 and our code would be more compliant with that to again demonstrate and clarify that these types of operations are not sidewalk vending operations and instead would be subject to other regulations, which the city already has within its municipal code.

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Next slide, please.

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Some of the other types of amendments that we're proposing this, one is again, I talked

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about this a little bit briefly as distance requirements, so we're looking to ensure greater

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protections for the vendors, for their patrons, for pedestrians who are utilizing the sidewalk

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and even for vehicular traffic that is often impacted by sidewalk vending.

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And so what we are proposing is some distance requirements to ensure that the sidewalk vending

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operations as a whole, maintain safe distances from a variety of things, and many of these

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are already within the city's code. We are just clarifying some of them and consolidating

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some of them as well. Next slide. To show you some of the distances that we're talking

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about, we're trying to ensure that our sidewalk vending operations are not too close to intersections

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and crosswalks. We're by the operation. When I say the operation, I do want to make sure

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that we understand, the operation is not just the cart itself.

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Although we're concerned about the operator of the cart and the cart, we're also concerned

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about the queue of patrons that they will have.

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And many of these sidewalk vending operations are very successful.

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They have followings.

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And so we end up with large groups of people who might be waiting in line to obtain either

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the food or the merchandise that they're purchasing from the sidewalk vendor.

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So we want to make sure that that operation is a safe distance away from crosswalks, intersections, traffic control devices, fire hydrants, driveway aprons.

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Oftentimes we have things where lines of patrons start encroaching into the driveway, and then obviously there's health and safety risks to those patrons, as well as to vehicles that are trying to utilize those.

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Also from railroad crossings and again just a couple of additional things that are shown on the screen.

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Public transit stops, bus stops, outdoor dining areas, ATM machines.

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I want to make sure that people are feeling safe to utilize ATM machines without having a crowd of people surrounding them.

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And then also school certified markets and swap mates.

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Those are things that are allowed under state law.

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to be able to keep this distance away from those certified

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farmers markets and permitted swap meets as well as school yards.

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Next slide please. Additional amendments that we have, and again, some of these are just minor modifications to clarify some issues.

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Some of these are already within the code, but one would of course be liability insurance requirements.

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We are seeking to have the realities when someone comes in and gets a sidewalk vending permit.

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What they're really doing is they are encroaching on the city sidewalk.

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And so this city, like every other city, and again, the city attorney is correct.

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I represent approximately 50 cities throughout the state of California.

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And each of the ones where we do this, the city requires liability insurance

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insurance because there could be an injury that results from the sidewalk vending operation

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that's being performed on the city sidewalk.

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And so, the requirement that we have would be to remain consistent with the current code

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requirements, and that would be to require liability insurance in an amount that is similar

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to other persons who encroach onto our city sidewalks.

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And for the exact same reasons.

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Health requirements.

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So some of the amendments that we are proposing here is, again, health requirements to ensure that the public health and safety is being maintained and also to ensure that we are in compliance with SB 972, which is the new Senate bill that was passed last year.

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Here, easing some of the restrictions that were applicable to vendors of food. And some of those include the following. Next slide, please. One would be, of course, requiring a health permit, unless the person exempted by SB 972 or the local health code. So under SB 972, there are some smaller operations of non-potentially hazardous food items that are pre-packaged things like bottles of water,

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and other, you know, bags of chips, things of that nature, that someone with a small enough

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operation would be exempt from a health permit. They would also be exempt from a health permit

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under the proposed modifications that we are proposing to the city.

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Number two is we are requiring a maintenance plan, and that would be that a person who's

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applying for a sidewalk vending operation would have to provide the city with a maintenance plan.

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The demonstrates how they're going to ensure their equipment and utensils are sanitized,

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that they dispose of any waste that is the result of that operation, both throughout

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the day as well as at the end of the day when they close up for the night.

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There would also be a requirement that they have fire extinguishers on board on the cart

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if they're preparing food with a grillist over some other type of open flame.

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So again, this is a health requirement.

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The next would be limitations on the cart size.

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And again, the purpose behind imposing limitations on the cart size is to ensure that we continue to have accessible routes of travel along our sidewalks.

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So the vending cart, the proposal is for 72 inches in length, 48 inches in width, and 72 inches in height, and that would include a roof or an awning.

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And that's very consistent with what we have currently.

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Additionally, any type of shade structure would have to be attached to the cart itself.

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So they wouldn't be allowed to put additional shade structure on the sidewalk.

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It has to be attached to the card itself and again the purpose behind this is to ensure that we have our accessible routes of travel.

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What we're seeing in many instances is although the vending card itself might meet the size requirements.

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We then end up with multiple canopies which end up blocking additional portions of the sidewalk and making it difficult if not impossible in many instances for pedestrians to be able to utilize those portions of the sidewalk.

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and end up either needing to walk into the street,

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the roadway portion, or on to private property

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to get around the vending activities.

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So the proposal is to ensure that shade structures

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are actually attached to the vending cart

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and that they don't exceed the overall size

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that's allowed for the vending cart.

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Next slide, please.

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Additionally, and this is not a modification,

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this is already currently in our code,

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but there would be the ability for the city to remove

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food, sidewalk vending operation, equipment, merchandise, or food, if there are imminent health

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and safety hazards, or if there are otherwise blocking those accessible paths of travel.

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But those impoundment or removal would be pursuant to additional regulations which would be adopted

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at a later date.

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And again, this is authority that's already currently in our municipal code.

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So, this is not so much a modification, just more a restatement of what is already contained

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within the code.

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Next slide, please.

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There would be some additional city park limitations.

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So, sidewalk vending under SB 946 does include the ability for sidewalk venders to operate within

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our city parks.

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The state has allowed some limited regulations on these.

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And so, the regulations that we are proposing, next slide, please, would be no sidewalk

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vending within 100 feet of a city part for where that the city actually has a signed agreement

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for exclusive sale of concessions that would be merchandise to our food. And this is something

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that is explicitly authorized under SB 946. Right now that would include Southgate Park and

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Holiday Regional Park. Those are parks within the city that we have exclusive agreements with for

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the sale of concessions. So sidewalk, so stationary sidewalk vending would be prohibited within those

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particular parks and a hundred feet of those parks. Additionally, there would be no sidewalk

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vending within 100 feet of sports courts while they're being used or playgrounds or restrooms

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or other concession areas. So again, it's just a distance requirement to ensure that those particular

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components of our recreational facilities, the sports fields and courts, the playgrounds,

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restroom areas and concessions areas are not bombarded by additional vendors, again, which could inhibit the use of those particular recreational components of our parks.

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They would also be required to operate

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On those areas, so vendors of food would be limited to the areas where the park is already designated for cooking or barbecuing. And additionally, the sidewalk vendors would be required to operate only on the paved portions of the park. And again, the reason for that is their sidewalk vendor. So they're meant to be operating on the sidewalks or paved portions of the park. And again, our modification of this is really just a clarification to ensure that sidewalk vendors understand that by law,

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both SB 946 as well as the local that it's intended for them to be operating on paved portions

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that is the sidewalk and or other walkways within the park and they would still obviously

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have to maintain accessible paths of travel.

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Next slide please.

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This is just a little matrix of what some of the other municipalities are doing and as you

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I can tell, for example, if you look at some of the cart sizes, the city of Southgate

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is actually allowing a little bit larger of cart size than other local jurisdictions.

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And there's even some distance requirements that are much larger or wider in other jurisdictions.

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And our goal is to find a balance between allowing sidewalk vending activities to become, as the

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state has said a vibrant part of our community, while also ensuring the health safety and welfare

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of, again, not only are sidewalk vendors, but also their patrons, other pedestrians who are

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utilizing the sidewalk and a vehicular traffic. Next slide please. Just to give you a brief summary

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of what we've talked about, again, we are proposing modification to the entire regulatory framework

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for sidewalk vendors. And the purpose behind that is to ensure that our code, which again was

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adopted back in 2018, remains in compliance with, as state law changes, we change, right? So

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whereby we want to remain in compliance with SB 946, we also want to remain in compliance with the

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new SB 972. And so some of the modifications that we've talked about address those. Next slide, please.

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Again, sidewalk vending cannot be prohibited within our city.

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We cannot prohibit it.

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I know there are many jurisdictions throughout the state of California that used to previously

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have a blanket prohibitions on sidewalk vending or made it very difficult, but SB 946

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is said.

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We cannot prohibit it.

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So, our code is designed not to prohibit it, but we are allowed to impose appropriate

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time-places and manner regulations that are directly related to addressing the health

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safety and welfare concerns that result from sidewalk vending activities. And again,

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as I indicated, many of those things include obstructions of our pedestrian pathways,

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especially accessible paths of travel, but also ensuring the safety as I indicated for

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the pedestrians who may not need the accessible paths, but just regular portions of the sidewalk

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00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:23,520
to avoid them from walking into roadways and the light, or to avoid sidewalk vending operations and the queue of patrons from obstructing doorways to businesses, or obstructing driveways, obstructing usage of fire hydrants or blocking traffic control devices, things of that nature.

419
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,600
And next slide, that's the end of my presentation.

420
00:43:27,740 --> 00:43:33,320
Everything that we're proposing to you, and many of which is addressing the agenda member

421
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:38,060
or the staff report and obviously spelled out in the proposed ordinance, again, is designed

422
00:43:38,060 --> 00:43:41,460
specifically to address health safety and welfare concerns.

423
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:49,720
And to remove some of those portions of our ordinance, which were a little bit more restrictive,

424
00:43:49,720 --> 00:44:01,800
For example, those blanket prohibited areas, which we're proposing on removing from the code and with that obviously I am available for any questions that the council may have.

425
00:44:05,220 --> 00:44:15,180
All right, so excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, we're going to, we're going to go into a public comment now.

426
00:44:15,180 --> 00:44:29,920
and we're going to allow everyone's voice and opinion to be heard. Your comments are intended to be directed to the public, excuse me, to the city council and they're supposed to be directed on this topic.

427
00:44:30,540 --> 00:44:40,300
You'll have three minutes. The council will take your comments. If you have questions, those questions will not be addressed while you're at the podium.

428
00:44:40,300 --> 00:44:48,180
They'll take will take note of those and the council will address them as a group at the end. Thank you very much Madam Mayor

429
00:44:48,740 --> 00:44:50,240
Thank you mr. City Attorney

430
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,560
James. Thank you so much for the presentation greatly appreciated so at this time

431
00:44:56,940 --> 00:44:59,820
To public comment that is here in council chambers

432
00:45:12,730 --> 00:45:38,150
All right. So, Jailer total decided to go to war with street vendors. Street vendors, y'all also known as a struggling class. So, let me tell y'all what Jill is. Jill is a product of the white man. Back in the day, the white man made people of color hate themselves so much because of white man considered himself to be superior. He made themselves, he made them hate themselves so much that some of them even began hating their own people. He made them hate themselves so much that some of them even turned against their own people.

433
00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:42,750
And that's what Jill is for you a man who hated themselves so much that he even began to hate his own people

434
00:45:42,750 --> 00:45:48,570
Your mind has been calling nice Jill and I'm here to tell you Jill you are a criminal the street vendors are not criminals

435
00:45:48,570 --> 00:45:55,850
Jill you are you are a criminal Jill because you are a big-time capitalist who loves to exploit the youth you don't pay rent for the parks yet

436
00:45:55,850 --> 00:46:00,130
You don't pay rent for the parks here you charge the children money to be able to play sports

437
00:46:00,130 --> 00:46:03,590
You are a criminal Jill because displacing the vendors was not enough for you

438
00:46:03,590 --> 00:46:07,570
You are a criminal because you are trying to force the street vendors and their families into homelessness

439
00:46:07,570 --> 00:46:09,850
while your pockets continue to grow with money.

440
00:46:10,310 --> 00:46:12,430
You, Jill are a criminal because you want to profit off

441
00:46:12,430 --> 00:46:13,510
every single thing you can

442
00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:15,730
and are willing to fuck over the street vendors for money

443
00:46:15,730 --> 00:46:17,510
that is considered pocket change to you, Jill.

444
00:46:18,110 --> 00:46:20,790
Because that's why you took the vendors out of the park, right?

445
00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:22,450
Because you saw them as competition.

446
00:46:22,890 --> 00:46:25,490
See, the reality in this system is that when you are born

447
00:46:25,490 --> 00:46:27,990
into poverty, you are destined to be a poor person.

448
00:46:28,430 --> 00:46:30,750
The vendors need a job, their families need to be fed,

449
00:46:31,090 --> 00:46:32,210
their children need an education.

450
00:46:33,350 --> 00:46:35,530
And while many of us are one paycheck away from being homeless,

451
00:46:35,530 --> 00:46:42,750
The vendors are a few at Lotus, but let us flowers and rasp others away from being homeless. So let me make this clear to you, Jill.

452
00:46:43,810 --> 00:46:49,510
Stream ending is a struggle. It's not a privilege. And when you're doing to this people, it ain't gonna be condoned.

453
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:59,430
So let this be clear. When one decides to target the struggling class, there's gonna be no peace. No peace jail, no peace whatsoever. We will not be displaced again. Let that be clear.

454
00:46:59,810 --> 00:47:06,050
not on the land that belongs to the people, decolonize your minds y'all, all of you, do not be a product of the white man like Jill.

455
00:47:06,610 --> 00:47:12,450
Not even the police will be able to displace the street vendors because the communities will come together and we will make sure of it.

456
00:47:12,850 --> 00:47:17,250
Communities Jill will come together, not just this community, but the other communities.

457
00:47:17,870 --> 00:47:21,750
And being up here just gave me a new idea, what about we take the fucking parts away from you Jill?

458
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:27,770
We'll take the fucking parts away from you Jill and we'll reinvest them. We'll reinvest them into the community.

459
00:47:28,250 --> 00:47:34,110
Another pass and another pass. Decolonize your mind. Big it. I love you. Decolonize your damn minds.

460
00:47:35,970 --> 00:47:40,510
Oh yeah. Let's go, Ryan. Let's march Ryan. Thank you.

461
00:47:41,950 --> 00:47:45,370
Shout out to the youth. Come to the cutting hate. We don't charge kids to play sports.

462
00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:49,610
Shout out to the cutting hate youth foundation. When you say you give business permits

463
00:47:49,610 --> 00:48:00,830
But you don't mention that in order to qualify for a business permit, you need a qualified to the impossible DPH requirements and DPH according to their director lease of free as they do not give permits to taco stance.

464
00:48:01,210 --> 00:48:04,690
So I don't know why you had that picture up there or taco stance because they don't give them out at all whatsoever.

465
00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:09,930
And for example, if you're in the lotero, you need to have a commissary or an industrial kitchen.

466
00:48:10,310 --> 00:48:15,710
Recently, a commissary that houses more than 300 vendors just are asserting down now, which is Las Palmas.

467
00:48:15,710 --> 00:48:20,670
Palmas. So there's a limit of commentary. So keep that in mind when you want to pursue your

468
00:48:20,670 --> 00:48:25,810
bureaucracy. For example, Riverside County and the whole state of Arizona has Miko implemented.

469
00:48:26,070 --> 00:48:30,090
Do you know what Miko is? The micro enterprise home kitchen where vendors can use their home kitchen

470
00:48:30,090 --> 00:48:34,250
because you're trusting them to feel their children. They're using that kitchen to be able to get it

471
00:48:34,250 --> 00:48:39,070
I'm inspected by the Department of Public Health. We don't have that here in LA County. The California

472
00:48:39,070 --> 00:48:43,050
retail food code says that you have no jurisdiction under the California Constitution. You're supposed

473
00:48:43,050 --> 00:48:48,590
to pass laws that are a benefit to the public, not to benefit one man that doesn't want competition.

474
00:48:49,170 --> 00:48:53,430
Most of all, you're trying to pass. You already contracted that job to the pH in your ordinance

475
00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:58,070
description of the exact food and mobile card to be used. Yeah, everything related to the serving

476
00:48:58,070 --> 00:49:03,170
of food falls under the CA retail food code because it involves public health. The retail food code,

477
00:49:03,170 --> 00:49:10,550
which is a CRFC, explicitly states that enforcement officers as defined in CRFC 1137 74 are the only

478
00:49:10,550 --> 00:49:15,870
agents from the state that can enforce the CRFC. All state regulations pertaining to public

479
00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:20,830
health must be enforced by an enforcement officer and not by another city, county, or state

480
00:49:20,830 --> 00:49:26,650
agent, city, county, or state agent. Bathroom regulations are not enforced by police officers.

481
00:49:26,970 --> 00:49:30,450
There is no state regulation that even a truck should have a bathroom letter.

482
00:49:30,930 --> 00:49:34,850
In your ordinance, it says roaming vendors must move continuously except when necessary to

483
00:49:34,850 --> 00:49:39,630
complete a sale and cannot come back to the same residential street. California courts have found

484
00:49:39,630 --> 00:49:43,310
arbitrary time limit restrictions like the ones proposed here to be invalid.

485
00:49:43,610 --> 00:49:47,270
Please check Barahas versus City of Anaheim or Vasquez versus City of San Ana.

486
00:49:47,490 --> 00:49:50,110
We have lawyers that would be happy to come and take your money.

487
00:49:50,410 --> 00:49:50,910
We don't mind.

488
00:49:51,390 --> 00:49:55,910
SoCalMobile Food Vendors Association sued 13 cities and won every single one

489
00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:57,990
for trying to pass something seven years trying to pass.

490
00:49:57,990 --> 00:49:59,510
Monroe, you're paid 250.

491
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:29,100
$1,000 to their own law firm, and they had to pay $90,000 to the other side for trying to pass a similar ordinance. Violation, when you said, violations may result in a $1,000 fine revocation of the permit and confiscation and palming of three vendor cards, you can, first of all, you cannot confiscate equipment under SB946. And look, investing and three vendors is money you'll see again since it circulates our economy. You're worried about taxes, the profits that Walmart, Netflix, and Amazon get and tax cuts by paying zero federal taxes get thrown into offshore accounts.

492
00:50:29,100 --> 00:50:35,740
One mark has took the way 76 billion in assets to a network of undisclosed subsidies and 15 tax key havens

493
00:50:35,740 --> 00:50:38,140
Creating more inflation and spiking our national debt

494
00:50:54,580 --> 00:50:59,800
Hi guys good afternoon my name is Joseph Monanum and just one thing I want to get out of the way is

495
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,340
street vendors, they're part of this community, for a matter of fact, they're part of this family.

496
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:09,220
I know they are the backbones of our community and the backbones of my childhood, and that's

497
00:51:09,220 --> 00:51:13,880
for the case for most of us, if not all of us here. So why would we want to take that away from us?

498
00:51:14,220 --> 00:51:20,880
You know, like these ordinances, they are putting a massive restriction on the street vendors.

499
00:51:21,340 --> 00:51:25,160
And I get it, we're looking out for the health and safety of us, my kids and my little brothers,

500
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:33,040
I get that but I find the hypocrisy we're trying to find the safety for the health when we have McDonald's

501
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:39,120
We have Taco Bell. We have a bunch of fast food corporations every two blocks from hospitals

502
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:45,400
We have them from gyms. We have them from we have them from schools. That's the major hypocrisy we have

503
00:51:45,980 --> 00:51:52,860
And listen, I would rather put my money in back into my community than into the capitalism

504
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:54,720
That's what I would rather do.

505
00:51:59,130 --> 00:52:01,150
Look, I'm new to this all-adopting.

506
00:52:01,810 --> 00:52:04,350
I'm 18, I'm going on 19, so I'm new to this.

507
00:52:04,970 --> 00:52:05,630
And I get it.

508
00:52:06,050 --> 00:52:09,690
And I know what it, I finally know what it is trying

509
00:52:09,690 --> 00:52:11,150
and work for something that you have

510
00:52:11,150 --> 00:52:13,530
and something that you're proud to have.

511
00:52:14,150 --> 00:52:16,250
These businesses, because at the end of the day,

512
00:52:16,310 --> 00:52:18,010
like you guys were saying, these are businesses.

513
00:52:19,190 --> 00:52:20,350
This is their livelihood.

514
00:52:21,130 --> 00:52:24,090
The American Dream has always been to fight for what you have

515
00:52:24,090 --> 00:52:29,530
to declare yourself in the ground up and build something about yourself, not only for yourself,

516
00:52:29,970 --> 00:52:34,530
but for your family. And this is what they're doing. They're proud people for what they're doing.

517
00:52:35,270 --> 00:52:39,850
They're proud because they're representing themselves. Not only the sacrifices they have,

518
00:52:40,250 --> 00:52:46,350
but the sacrifices that they passed generation time. I know my, I know my slogan,

519
00:52:46,930 --> 00:52:51,710
I've been the Lord. Me, him and my brother, they're like this, whenever, whenever he's at home,

520
00:52:51,710 --> 00:52:56,170
He always asks for him, they're basically, when I say they're family, I mean it, they're family.

521
00:52:57,370 --> 00:53:01,690
So when an attack on street vendors is an attack on all of us.

522
00:53:13,260 --> 00:53:28,460
Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, we have somebody speaking right now, please let the speaker finish.

523
00:53:28,460 --> 00:53:35,980
please let these speaker finish excuse me

524
00:53:41,130 --> 00:53:45,370
again we want to hear from everyone in a

525
00:53:45,370 --> 00:53:53,370
respectful manner thank you Joseph Madam Mayor Madam Mayor can we please refrain

526
00:53:53,370 --> 00:54:00,150
go ahead Joseph thank you listen if we really want to help our community instead of

527
00:54:00,150 --> 00:54:05,670
taxing them instead of hurting their business even more than maybe we can we have

528
00:54:05,670 --> 00:54:09,890
progress to help them get these funds better to help they get to help they get

529
00:54:09,890 --> 00:54:14,470
these licenses better because it's hard for somebody who doesn't know how to

530
00:54:14,470 --> 00:54:20,730
maneuver this this whole field it's hard especially it isn't your first

531
00:54:20,730 --> 00:54:27,090
language it's hard it's really hard like I recently I got one of my license to cook

532
00:54:27,090 --> 00:54:32,870
And if it wasn't for the help of my mom and if it wasn't for the help of my job, I wouldn't even know where to begin.

533
00:54:33,610 --> 00:54:38,670
So maybe let's start focusing back on helping our community instead of damaging even more. Thank you for your time.

534
00:54:39,550 --> 00:54:39,870
Thank you.

535
00:54:43,900 --> 00:54:44,680
Next speaker.

536
00:54:50,100 --> 00:54:51,520
Good evening council members.

537
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:59,820
Here, um, actually embarrassed at the Southeast communities today. Um, we are working.

538
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:05,940
For community and the fact that you guys are targeting our people, that is messed up.

539
00:55:06,460 --> 00:55:15,560
Eldrilles, I just heard that you are one of the original bell activists. As an activist, we become voices for the people that cannot speak for themselves.

540
00:55:16,380 --> 00:55:27,520
And you guys are, you guys are trying to pass an ordinance targeting the most vulnerable. Guilurtado, I agree with what he said. You want to go after street vendors, give up your contract for the parks.

541
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,800
and leave that open for our street vendors.

542
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:38,440
To the rest of the council, on the fact that you guys approved for Gilurthado to get

543
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,880
that contract, that's a conflict of interest.

544
00:55:41,460 --> 00:55:43,800
I'm surprised you guys have let us go on long enough.

545
00:55:45,060 --> 00:55:50,500
Southeast LA has been known for all the corruption that's happened in these cities and what you guys are doing,

546
00:55:50,820 --> 00:55:55,420
instead of setting an example for the youth, you guys should be embarrassed.

547
00:55:55,420 --> 00:56:01,700
Joseph Moreno, I have known him since Kare, that he has more integrity than all of you guys put

548
00:56:01,700 --> 00:56:08,500
together. So again, the other thing too, why was there a special meeting called to attack

549
00:56:08,500 --> 00:56:13,540
street vendors when you guys have a regular meeting for tomorrow? Are you guys wasting

550
00:56:13,540 --> 00:56:18,480
city resources to target these vendors, to target the most vulnerable from our communities?

551
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,220
these thing on webels, and you know what?

552
00:56:21,460 --> 00:56:22,960
Be the voice for the vulnerable.

553
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:24,400
Thank you.

554
00:56:28,030 --> 00:56:28,750
Thank you.

555
00:56:29,910 --> 00:56:30,430
Okay.

556
00:56:32,170 --> 00:56:35,130
I'd like to apologize for all the screaming and yelling.

557
00:56:35,730 --> 00:56:39,830
But if you'd like to know if you'd like to know what it was about.

558
00:56:41,370 --> 00:56:44,610
Again, I left my phone in the bathroom.

559
00:56:44,970 --> 00:56:49,810
And one of these three beautiful people here found it.

560
00:56:49,810 --> 00:56:56,290
And decided that the best thing to do would be to keep it.

561
00:57:03,410 --> 00:57:08,570
Okay, again, listen, I would just again ask the public.

562
00:57:09,090 --> 00:57:19,670
I just asked the public to please listen, we have a city council to we have a city council meeting to run.

563
00:57:19,670 --> 00:57:27,870
We have a city council meeting erupt okay can we please refrain we gave it we

564
00:57:27,870 --> 00:57:36,450
gave it everybody an opportunity to speak no go ahead go ahead if

565
00:57:40,450 --> 00:57:40,790
you would

566
00:57:40,790 --> 00:57:46,830
no Paulina no oh dress your finances you can't go to the council director to

567
00:57:46,830 --> 00:57:47,290
the council.

568
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:59,840
Excuse me. Please refrain. Go ahead. Thank you. Okay, council. The reason I'm wearing a

569
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:08,780
face mask is because my mother is dying of cancer, and I do not want to hasten it by making her sick.

570
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:13,960
And just from the comments around here, we can see who the audience is filled with.

571
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:20,560
As we all know, not one of you up there has more power than the other.

572
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:30,840
Changing this ordinance to align with the state law, SB 946 and SB 972 was necessary

573
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:35,980
and done by a vote of all five of you collectively.

574
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,260
It is not the whim of anyone person.

575
00:58:39,260 --> 00:58:51,060
9-4-6 speaks about decriminalization. The decriminalization definition is ceasing to treat something

576
00:58:51,060 --> 00:58:59,840
as illegal or as a criminal offense. Criminalization does not mean it's a free for all. Decriminalization

577
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:06,540
does not make vendors immune to administrative fines or citations. And neither

578
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:15,440
946 or 972 says vendors don't have to follow state, county, or city laws.

579
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:22,820
Nor does it give vendors the right to operate without the proper state, county, and city permits.

580
00:59:22,820 --> 00:59:39,880
I hope people leave this meeting realizing Southgate is not against vendors and so many are saying on social media, Southgate is only updating an ordinance to allow with the state.

581
00:59:50,210 --> 00:59:55,730
We're saying that Latinos are against Latinos, is that what you are saying?

582
00:59:56,630 --> 00:59:58,410
No, you're saying Southgate.

583
01:00:02,060 --> 01:00:16,500
And if everybody could please just give everybody their time to speak. Everybody, so

584
01:00:21,420 --> 01:00:28,560
if everybody could please just let everybody give their three minutes to speak. And then we will.

585
01:00:34,910 --> 01:00:40,890
This idea that Latinos are turning on Latinos.

586
01:00:40,890 --> 01:00:42,650
as ridiculous.

587
01:00:46,070 --> 01:00:50,930
They're turning against their own. This is a state,

588
01:00:53,770 --> 01:00:55,610
because people are saying,

589
01:01:09,460 --> 01:01:14,100
next speaker. Next speaker, please.

590
01:01:17,180 --> 01:01:21,280
Next, you're about to die though, you owe me a

591
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:45,980
Thank you very much for having this meeting. I didn't realize this was such a contentious thing. First of all, I'd like to thank the city manager.

592
01:01:46,980 --> 01:01:54,060
I put out some problems on it. How long ago and he was able to take care of it for me or for us a couple of weeks ago. I just want to thank you for that.

593
01:01:56,360 --> 01:02:00,970
and this is a very contentious thing, obviously.

594
01:02:02,550 --> 01:02:06,090
And I do think that the private businesses

595
01:02:06,090 --> 01:02:10,330
that have paid their taxes and all sorts of taxes

596
01:02:11,230 --> 01:02:13,310
you have to give them consideration too.

597
01:02:18,750 --> 01:02:23,190
And thus say, I'm not going to stand here and grab them.

598
01:02:23,450 --> 01:02:24,610
Anyway, thank you very much.

599
01:02:24,850 --> 01:02:25,650
Thank you.

600
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:44,960
I just want to thank all of you for coming out today, all the auditors, the people for the community activists, everything.

601
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:47,840
Do you know why we're all here tonight?

602
01:02:48,940 --> 01:02:57,560
We're here because of Gilhurtado, the only person that was talking in this city about this ordinance, nobody up here, nobody in this, anywhere in here was talking about it.

603
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:06,080
So as I was thinking about it, it kind of feels like 1935, like we're in Nuremberg and

604
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,140
Nazi Germany, while they were putting the race laws in effect.

605
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:10,800
And here's why I say that.

606
01:03:11,300 --> 01:03:17,240
The similarities are, right now, you are trying to reclassify a race of people by changing

607
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:22,920
them from street vendors to sidewalk vendors, classic what they did to the Jews in Nuremberg.

608
01:03:23,540 --> 01:03:29,260
you're also making rules and regulations that separate them from others. Same thing they did in Normburg.

609
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:35,880
You're also making it very, they're very existence a crime. Maybe not by arresting them,

610
01:03:35,980 --> 01:03:42,080
but you're going to find the hell out of them as per what this whoever was on the phone driving clown.

611
01:03:44,070 --> 01:03:50,790
This is nothing but this is nothing more than economic racism. This is an attack on the Indigenous

612
01:03:50,790 --> 01:03:56,070
his population with you trying to make it impossible for them to feed their children,

613
01:03:56,270 --> 01:03:58,250
their families, and have a roof over their head.

614
01:04:00,550 --> 01:04:04,830
You want a finger point like you're

615
01:04:04,830 --> 01:04:11,130
saying to fingerprint them, Gil, right? You said to your Jay's fingerprint it. Did that

616
01:04:11,130 --> 01:04:16,530
stop you? And some of your people from taking pictures of little girls and distribute them?

617
01:04:17,530 --> 01:04:36,180
You can deny it when it's your turn because you know I'm not lying and I didn't call you a pervert okay nobody I didn't call you a pedophile other people are but you did that didn't you yeah look at me look at me outside by ourselves the same thing fucking coward you

618
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:52,520
also talked about conflict of interest and yes you're right mr. Studio turning conflict of interest there's no property on but yet Jules organization has a financial interest in

619
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,980
in the contract that he has with this ordinance.

620
01:04:55,420 --> 01:04:58,900
Also by his own admission, he gets paid from the GA.

621
01:05:00,180 --> 01:05:16,520
How is that not a conflict of interest? Also, Gil, do you want to talk about the gifts also? Oh, you don't think I didn't know about that? The same people you talk to don't like you. How do you think I know all this stuff? You're an idiot. You're coward. That's why I always look down on I walk in front of you.

622
01:05:18,710 --> 01:05:31,030
Who's going to enforce these regulations? The police department, right? So now we're going to be known for having taco police. Is that what you want our city to be known for? You know, there's

623
01:05:31,030 --> 01:05:37,310
Lawyers ready for you to pass this tonight. It's gonna cost us more money than your measure CC did

624
01:05:37,930 --> 01:05:39,530
When you fail to pass it

625
01:05:40,110 --> 01:05:41,430
To benefit yourself

626
01:05:42,070 --> 01:05:44,810
This ordinance only benefits Gil-Her-Taro

627
01:05:45,590 --> 01:05:52,950
It's keeping money in his pocket and he's willing to screw over every vendor lie and cheat as much as he can just to get his way

628
01:05:52,950 --> 01:05:58,270
Thank you, Mr. Montaglan next time. And if you think you're gonna bring the healthy apartment and have our police department follow them

629
01:05:58,850 --> 01:06:02,450
to just wait. You think this is nothing right now, bro?

630
01:06:04,410 --> 01:06:05,770
Thank you, next speaker.

631
01:06:09,340 --> 01:06:11,600
Oh, how you doing today?

632
01:06:13,860 --> 01:06:18,180
I'm going to start off by saying that, Maria, you make about $35,000

633
01:06:18,180 --> 01:06:23,880
a year. I'm going to start off by saying, Gil, you make about $32,000 a year. I'm going

634
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:29,960
to start off by saying the mayor, you make about $37,000 a year, too. And I hope you, I know

635
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:36,600
You guys don't want this attention. It just surprises to me that I see a bunch of Latinos over there on top of the podium.

636
01:06:37,140 --> 01:06:41,960
And you guys can hear this bullshit on top of the thing saying that we're going to find our sugar industry thousand dollars.

637
01:06:42,980 --> 01:06:46,020
Unfortunately, you guys don't understand what that ticket's going to do to the people.

638
01:06:46,500 --> 01:06:50,480
This clown has Laura that was just jumping on the mic saying that, oh, it's not going to affect them.

639
01:06:50,820 --> 01:06:52,740
Because that food don't have Mexican roots, bro.

640
01:06:53,500 --> 01:06:56,120
That food don't apply for an application to get the citizenship.

641
01:06:56,820 --> 01:07:01,660
They don't. Latinos do. They spend it. Do all day. And what

642
01:07:01,660 --> 01:07:04,320
happened when they give them a ticket without doesn't even know

643
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,720
because he's about to die, bro. He's old as hell. He's wise

644
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,600
about today because she got she about to die too. So they don't

645
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,920
understand that they trying to bring problems to your city. And

646
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,380
trust me, I don't think the cause want that attention because

647
01:07:16,380 --> 01:07:19,080
they call me South Central audit. I make clowns like that

648
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:22,700
famous. And I'm pretty sure none of you clowns. I'm not talking

649
01:07:22,700 --> 01:07:25,660
to all you clowns. You guys don't want to be famous neither.

650
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:34,720
because Mr. Ritado, remember something man, 17 freeway, you live right by it, right by it.

651
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:41,080
So don't be surprised about the people, don't be surprised, you're on because I'm going

652
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:45,660
to make sure you'll be known as the biggest your own in Southgate, since you want to mess

653
01:07:45,660 --> 01:07:49,020
with the community, you want to mess with our street vendors, you want to divide the community,

654
01:07:49,620 --> 01:07:53,300
I'm going to let it be known, take a real good look at my face, it's not the first time

655
01:07:53,300 --> 01:07:58,240
you're gonna see me or the last time. Got it? I hope I see you when you're driving in

656
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:04,280
and out. I hope I see you. I hope I see you, Rob. You're not gonna like it. I hope you

657
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:09,040
make the right decision. I hope you make, I hope all you guys are here. Make the right decision

658
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:13,420
with the sorry ass orders you guys trying to implement in the city. Do you want an activist?

659
01:08:15,140 --> 01:08:21,520
For the people and you want to sit up there and I do nothing about it, Rob? You better think about

660
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:26,100
about it. Mr. Reels, think about it. I think that you should make a right decision. You guys

661
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:30,240
caught his meeting, bro, for a reason. Why? Because this boy got to get some money. This

662
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,820
boy want to get some money right there. He want to pay his tender poor home where he lives

663
01:08:33,820 --> 01:08:38,980
at. You know what I mean? That's what he wants to do. And at the park where the kids play

664
01:08:38,980 --> 01:08:43,340
at. I'm going to bail out visit to the park. And I'm going to film everybody over there

665
01:08:43,340 --> 01:08:47,000
and see what kind of legal shit you guys are doing. And you guys talking about the kitchen

666
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,900
and shit at the park. Why would he use a kitchen for a street vendor so they could cook their

667
01:08:50,900 --> 01:08:56,740
food there. This is a street part. This is a public part. No, huh. You want to pick and choose

668
01:08:56,740 --> 01:09:01,360
who you want to cook in that part, huh? How much to give? Is that your part? Which pay for it?

669
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:08,960
Nothing, huh? Stay tuned, man. This is not going to be the first time. It's not going to be the last

670
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:13,540
time. And I know you guys are buddies. So stay very real where I know everything. You see these little

671
01:09:13,540 --> 01:09:18,500
notes I got right here? It's all regarded on you guys. Think about it. Thank you.

672
01:09:19,500 --> 01:09:21,740
next speaker next

673
01:09:25,990 --> 01:09:26,470
speaker.

674
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,520
Okay, my name is Jesus Bruce. I live in Syria,

675
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:37,640
South Guy for 50 years and I think so. The city have to have some control. I

676
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:44,100
completely agree. The all is tremendous cut to cut permit. And it's for the

677
01:09:44,100 --> 01:09:51,180
safe or the citizen of South Guy. If somebody gets sick by in the food or

678
01:09:51,180 --> 01:09:59,680
something who's gonna you complain I gonna tell you one thing one day

679
01:10:00,660 --> 01:10:07,700
I went to the house, or the people they sell in tamales in the city, and I went to the house. They

680
01:10:07,700 --> 01:10:20,860
cook in the tamales in the garage, and you will see how dirty everything was. The city has to have some control.

681
01:10:20,860 --> 01:10:28,840
I'm sorry and it's nothing excuse me excuse me let him speak everybody every see every

682
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:36,100
a three-banded they could pay the fee and the city could have control of them for care

683
01:10:36,100 --> 01:10:50,270
or the city is it or so gay thank you thank you next speaker please next speaker seeing

684
01:10:50,270 --> 01:10:51,930
I'm closing the audience portion.

685
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,880
Again, can we please refrain from the economy gentlemen?

686
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:04,260
All right, everybody. First time here, I'm a public school teacher. I've been living in South

687
01:11:04,260 --> 01:11:09,980
Africa for the past 27 years. And so I've been very interested to see where the council's going.

688
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:17,420
I thought I was very disrespectful earlier when the attorney was probably making $500 an hour

689
01:11:17,420 --> 01:11:22,160
on the phone. I thought that there was really disrespectful. I don't know why he wasn't here

690
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:26,580
in person. There was non-appropriate time for questions. There was not enough questions

691
01:11:26,580 --> 01:11:32,380
that were being asked, and I think that needs to be more apparent. Also, that's a lot

692
01:11:32,380 --> 01:11:37,160
of money that we're spending for that attorney. Next thing, I think there's a lot of like

693
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:43,120
pretense for the decision that you're trying to make. There's a lot of like hitting language

694
01:11:43,660 --> 01:11:48,680
that you think the public doesn't see, but the public is seeing it, and that's why you have

695
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:53,680
the response that you have right now. There has been in that presentation there was nothing about

696
01:11:53,680 --> 01:12:00,240
any support, transition, resources for anything with street vendors. It was a punitive action

697
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:08,920
the whole entire time. And that is very, very, very sad in my opinion. I have students who work

698
01:12:09,500 --> 01:12:16,540
as street vendors. Their job and their responsibility isn't to be rich or wealthy. It's literally

699
01:12:16,540 --> 01:12:24,820
just to support their families. So my question to the council members are there was a $500 per hour

700
01:12:24,820 --> 01:12:32,680
presentation that was given but there was no examples of support for street vendors. So we could see

701
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:39,120
everything that's happening. We're not dumb. We have smart people here. So I think the city needs to

702
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:46,240
be more responsible in determining how they want to do this. But I think that everybody here can

703
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:51,380
see what's on the wall and it's that we want to just change street vendors, make it impossible,

704
01:12:51,900 --> 01:12:58,040
make it very difficult so that we can be a different city or whatever. But that's not us.

705
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:02,420
You know, we're Southgate. We have hardworking people here every single day and I think that's

706
01:13:02,420 --> 01:13:06,300
what the City Council needs to remember. Thank you.

707
01:13:10,620 --> 01:13:11,660
Next speaker.

708
01:13:14,230 --> 01:13:20,190
Well, I will speak Spanish because I really prefer it, and I think it is very important

709
01:13:20,190 --> 01:13:23,050
to me after I saw all the countries.

710
01:13:23,990 --> 01:13:25,510
Let me just interrupt you.

711
01:13:25,610 --> 01:13:28,590
We have a Spanish translator here.

712
01:13:28,610 --> 01:13:29,850
But I want to speak Spanish.

713
01:13:32,070 --> 01:13:34,710
We will love to speak Spanish.

714
01:13:35,950 --> 01:13:38,130
Yes, we will love speaking Spanish.

715
01:13:38,650 --> 01:13:40,510
We also have to record this in English.

716
01:13:40,510 --> 01:13:49,070
So just bear with me, what we're going to do is just ask you and allow us to translate it.

717
01:13:49,070 --> 01:13:55,130
If I'm translated to English, I need to be able to hear you say and to hear positive.

718
01:13:55,950 --> 01:13:58,050
95% of the people in this area are in Spanish.

719
01:13:58,310 --> 01:14:00,170
You're a racist for doing that.

720
01:14:00,570 --> 01:14:02,470
You should be ready for the system.

721
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:11,240
We know that there are many people in the Zoom, that nothing else speaks Spanish.

722
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,460
a lot of people who asked me to

723
01:14:14,460 --> 01:14:16,540
speak Spanish. Therefore, why are

724
01:14:16,540 --> 01:14:18,180
we allowing them to speak Spanish?

725
01:14:20,700 --> 01:14:21,640
They have been

726
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:22,820
more than easy for people to

727
01:14:22,820 --> 01:14:28,760
make for people to be affected.

728
01:14:29,620 --> 01:14:34,240
Forgive me because I'm

729
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,660
Ya la señora.

730
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:39,580
Exacto.

731
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,080
I've been talking in Spanish.

732
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:42,360
Que concerto en Aberallista?

733
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:49,540
I just want to share the English recording.

734
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:50,180
If possible.

735
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:51,320
Los todos aquí.

736
01:14:51,500 --> 01:14:53,200
En el cuarto, not everybody here in

737
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:54,760
the room can also speak Spanish.

738
01:14:55,420 --> 01:14:55,820
Not everyone.

739
01:14:55,820 --> 01:14:57,420
not everybody on Zoom.

740
01:14:57,660 --> 01:14:58,460
How is that possible?

741
01:15:16,380 --> 01:15:18,020
I'm trying to do that.

742
01:15:20,220 --> 01:15:29,980
I'm trying to be translated into English for it to be a record. I am trying. So if you give me a pause, I can translate for English. Thank you. Okay.

743
01:15:29,980 --> 01:15:30,100
Okay.

744
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:30,440
Okay.

745
01:15:33,700 --> 01:15:34,900
Well, thanks.

746
01:15:36,060 --> 01:15:37,480
Ah, well, ah, I repeat.

747
01:15:37,940 --> 01:15:40,160
I'll see you in the in the profile.

748
01:15:40,780 --> 01:15:41,660
The senior, uh,

749
01:15:42,020 --> 01:15:44,160
I know it is that in the profile of guilt.

750
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:45,180
I know it is that in the profile of guilt.

751
01:15:45,180 --> 01:15:47,560
I told him to tell you that in Spanish.

752
01:15:48,180 --> 01:16:00,220
He said it's big Spanish, but I understand why he is doing now something that is attacking

753
01:16:00,220 --> 01:16:01,080
Spanish speakers.

754
01:16:06,140 --> 01:16:09,380
We all know those of us that have lived here for a long time.

755
01:16:09,380 --> 01:16:14,380
Las personas más afectadas por esta ordenanza que es resista son las personas

756
01:16:14,380 --> 01:16:22,280
que han afectado por esta ordenanza que son las personas más afectadas por como dijo el

757
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:25,320
joven a el sistema capitalista

758
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:29,000
and they're the most affected because as the young man before me said it's

759
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:35,460
capitalism y hubo una persona que dijo que o ahora es latino contra latino y quisiera

760
01:16:35,460 --> 01:16:47,820
They were someone else that said, now is a Latino against Latino, but it is not what is happening is Latinos like

761
01:16:47,820 --> 01:17:01,220
Guilertado, they are trying to do their best, it's very essential that all the people

762
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:06,060
It is essential that everyone notices

763
01:17:06,060 --> 01:17:12,760
that the one with all of these are just a fraud.

764
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:25,440
I have a lot of people that are participating via Zoom who are afraid to come in in person.

765
01:17:26,180 --> 01:17:31,200
And the other thing is that people that are participating via Zoom who are afraid to come in in person.

766
01:17:32,380 --> 01:17:40,620
I get those that you want people to come in and apply and put down their name and birthday and all their personal information.

767
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:44,980
Even their IRS information.

768
01:17:46,580 --> 01:17:53,800
This is 100% dirigido a las personas de papas 100% in attack or low income people.

769
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:05,580
There's a requirement that is requesting that they have insurance for more than a million

770
01:18:05,580 --> 01:18:06,280
dollars.

771
01:18:09,500 --> 01:18:12,780
The attorney didn't even mention that because he must be embarrassed.

772
01:18:12,780 --> 01:18:23,040
I noticed that he went to other municipalities, but that's because he's mostly more corrupt than all.

773
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:28,220
Claro que sí, o sea, todos esto están corruptos, ya bien, 32 mil dólares en serio por celario,

774
01:18:28,500 --> 01:18:33,120
por planas de opinión, estamos corruptos, al ganar más de 32 mil dólares al año.

775
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:40,240
O sea, ya, esto es una, o otra persona dijo a, nos reportó de la historia de Hitler,

776
01:18:42,140 --> 01:18:46,260
so aquí ustedes están tratando de regular, por donde va la gente,

777
01:18:46,260 --> 01:18:51,120
You here are trying to direct which way people can walk,

778
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:52,760
and what time they can walk.

779
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,460
That's basically making us more slaves.

780
01:19:00,340 --> 01:19:02,560
We are all paying for Chevron,

781
01:19:03,140 --> 01:19:05,240
Al-Ralves, Foufoles,

782
01:19:05,380 --> 01:19:07,160
Why don't you help us?

783
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:11,960
Why don't you help Chevron and all the other places

784
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:13,860
why don't you help us with them?

785
01:19:13,860 --> 01:19:16,820
In, but what you want is to say that, oh, basically,

786
01:19:17,220 --> 01:19:19,120
you can't go to the people,

787
01:19:20,100 --> 01:19:22,940
going to the city.

788
01:19:23,740 --> 01:19:26,380
You're basically saying that these vendors

789
01:19:26,380 --> 01:19:28,820
cannot go throughout basically the whole city.

790
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,720
So, I mean, for about 25 pies,

791
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:33,600
a lado de un semáforo.

792
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,180
25 feet from a light, a street light.

793
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,120
Hay semáforos por todos lados.

794
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:39,120
There's lights everywhere.

795
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:44,320
So that's the meaning that basically they can't go anywhere.

796
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,880
And this is the park that the people can't go anywhere.

797
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:52,200
The park they can't sell for more than over a hundred feet.

798
01:19:52,500 --> 01:19:56,840
And this is very constant that apparently they already have a contract or this or that.

799
01:19:57,020 --> 01:19:59,980
It's concerning because apparently this councilman has...

800
01:20:01,420 --> 01:20:06,900
Entonces, efectivamente, todas las personas que están escuchando en Zoom, que hablan español y si votan,

801
01:20:06,940 --> 01:20:08,440
arque ya no votan a public hearing.

802
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,880
Y por ninguno de los demás, por favor, ya.

803
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:34,060
que no les importa la comunidad, o sea, ni pueden ni tener 500 pies afuera de una escuela,

804
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:45,920
pero todos sabemos que las mamás, los niños quieren tomar las fuertes de los

805
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:49,820
están robando de nuestro orgullo,

806
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:50,920
de nuestro...

807
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,900
De nuestra historia cultural,

808
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:57,940
de nuestra historia que están robando.

809
01:20:58,440 --> 01:21:01,080
O sea, todos sabemos qué placenteras,

810
01:21:01,180 --> 01:21:03,380
al parque y el comprado en el lado.

811
01:21:05,260 --> 01:21:07,720
Pero ustedes no más quieren por que saben esto

812
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,820
porque ustedes quieren quitar el dinero

813
01:21:09,820 --> 01:21:11,420
de todos los personas de la salud.

814
01:21:11,420 --> 01:21:12,000
los recursos.

815
01:21:12,380 --> 01:21:18,320
En ese momento, lo están haciendo nada para ayudar a otras maneras de control de renta

816
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:19,120
y no de nemượng.

817
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:29,060
Entonces ¿ustedes realmente son de lo peor con ructos políticos y por eso el pueblo

818
01:21:29,060 --> 01:21:34,960
va a poner contra todos ustedes ya es esencial y de lo que son malos para el comunidad?

819
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:37,000
Yo sos porque se llamaron Camuineri.

820
01:21:41,510 --> 01:21:42,750
Gracias, señor.

821
01:21:42,750 --> 01:21:43,470
Gracias, pozas.

822
01:21:44,770 --> 01:21:46,130
Te lo las buenas tardes.

823
01:21:47,330 --> 01:21:50,330
Son que es mi comunidad, la comunidad real.

824
01:21:50,530 --> 01:21:51,870
This is my real community.

825
01:21:52,390 --> 01:21:54,730
Y quiero hacerle saber que...

826
01:21:54,730 --> 01:21:56,610
Primarily, es lo que les ha dado.

827
01:21:56,970 --> 01:21:59,330
Yo quiero dar la oportunidad de ir, lo que nos van a ver aquí.

828
01:21:59,670 --> 01:22:01,050
Este es el primer de los que hagan.

829
01:22:01,050 --> 01:22:03,690
Ya es la comunidad ya está,

830
01:22:08,390 --> 01:22:09,870
la comunidad.

831
01:22:09,870 --> 01:22:18,030
la comunidad y el pueblo ya está onido, y aquí en adelante las cosas de un

832
01:22:18,460 --> 01:22:23,490
poquito diferentes, y ese es específicamente para lo que nos estamos

833
01:22:23,490 --> 01:22:26,670
refiriendo ahorita, que es específicamente muy importante.

834
01:22:27,730 --> 01:22:33,130
Si estamos hablando de ser accesibles, cuando se trata de nuestra comunidad,

835
01:22:33,130 --> 01:23:01,250
si te tienes más de la cuantía de forma adaptada para ver que en el coste interactiva podría deboganse.

836
01:23:02,070 --> 01:23:03,110
No es de tué mejor investigate

837
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:12,120
que es obvio que el lenguaje es el lenguaje para conocer nuestra cultura en el punto.

838
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:18,900
Defineses de no tener nuestra cultura, pero de una manera puede ser respetar.

839
01:23:20,300 --> 01:23:24,600
Y es respetar nuestro trabajo en este recorrente.

840
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:32,900
Lo que quiero hacerles saber, primero es que esta va a ser una riónón, pero van a seguir la siguiente.

841
01:23:32,900 --> 01:23:34,220
Si la sociedad no se viene,

842
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,380
van a seguir en nuestra comunidad

843
01:23:38,380 --> 01:23:40,840
y nuestras pocasañeras continuan.

844
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:41,900
Y si le quieren.

845
01:23:42,260 --> 01:23:43,620
Porque la gente no quiere.

846
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,000
Voy a apretar mi tiempo.

847
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:47,700
Voy a ver mi tiempo.

848
01:23:54,820 --> 01:23:56,460
Eso es que ya Speak,

849
01:23:56,980 --> 01:23:58,420
no debo停ar la atención.

850
01:24:00,020 --> 01:24:01,940
No debo la creación.

851
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:04,320
Me vamos a calabar.

852
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:04,800
No sé por mí.

853
01:24:08,340 --> 01:24:08,820
No debo la creación,

854
01:24:17,810 --> 01:24:22,370
En otro punto, es cuando referente a la nutrición de nuestra comunidad,

855
01:24:22,370 --> 01:24:25,250
yo estaba lindiendo a mi sobrino, en regards to nutrition,

856
01:24:25,470 --> 01:24:40,850
es que no es tan saludable tener referente a que no están saludables

857
01:24:40,850 --> 01:24:43,790
por ejemplo, ice cream made out of lemon,

858
01:24:44,890 --> 01:24:48,990
pero a comparación a un helado que sea de McDonald's

859
01:24:48,990 --> 01:24:51,110
en comparison to when ice cream from McDonald's,

860
01:24:51,230 --> 01:24:55,430
a donde yo pienso que yo le voy a dar el helado a mis sobrinos,

861
01:24:55,710 --> 01:24:57,170
a las personas que yo quiero,

862
01:24:57,530 --> 01:24:57,610
a las personas que yo quiero,

863
01:24:57,610 --> 01:24:59,250
a las personas que yo quiero,

864
01:25:02,460 --> 01:25:12,820
Viencen a nutrición. Es parte de nuestra cultura. Nosotros, por lo normal, nos interesa. Quizás

865
01:25:12,820 --> 01:25:20,740
unos piensen que no es nuestra cultura. Pero la verdad es que la nutrición es súper importante

866
01:25:20,740 --> 01:25:26,300
para nosotros. Pero la verdad es que la nutrición es súper importante para nosotros.

867
01:25:29,180 --> 01:25:29,840
Pero la

868
01:25:30,420 --> 01:25:34,840
que mostró que la mayoría de los, o sea, no me da pausa, no le puedo traducir,

869
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:41,380
en un estudio reciente que se hizo, en a, en a recent study de West

870
01:25:41,380 --> 01:25:44,880
Contacting in New York, mostró que la mayoría de los casos,

871
01:25:45,500 --> 01:25:52,960
de los casos de los casos de intoxicación alimentaria de iring intoxicación

872
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,360
y de logar,

873
01:26:02,470 --> 01:26:03,390
por capital,

874
01:26:05,410 --> 01:26:06,070
por cápera.

875
01:26:09,250 --> 01:26:15,410
Sí, básicamente lo que estamos dando modo de ser los que ustedes ya saben que la mayoría

876
01:26:15,410 --> 01:26:20,070
de tiempo que cuando se trata de la nutrición, básicamente lo que voy a decir es que es

877
01:26:20,070 --> 01:26:38,720
la vendedoria de nuestros vendedores no vienen de nuestros vendedores, de los malestres que nosotros a veces sufrimos, es

878
01:26:40,340 --> 01:26:46,000
si llegan a las viendas, que no buscan a las jóvenes de la comunidad en ac���ible,

879
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:49,320
entonces cuando llegan a las personas a las países de la comunidad y cada vez llegan a las

880
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:50,280
personas a laswheelas, llegan a las viendas aquí en el lugar, y que ya viene chifele,

881
01:26:50,620 --> 01:26:56,680
ya nos da en más diabetic, en la comunidad, déjanos nuestros vendedores,

882
01:26:57,900 --> 01:27:04,280
los que ellos deberás saben, de que ellos saben cómo cocinar nuestra comida,

883
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,620
How to cook our food de manera que nosotros,

884
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:11,420
en modo de mi, entendemos cómo cuidad los simismá resisten,

885
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:12,720
como teencem рассказывando a Tierba.

886
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:13,360
Muchas gracias.

887
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:14,880
¡Soneticales!

888
01:27:17,180 --> 01:27:17,720
Señor amplia.

889
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:18,180
-steeker.

890
01:27:21,750 --> 01:27:21,810
Tu

891
01:27:25,220 --> 01:27:26,440
tienes que hacerlo aquí? Tú

892
01:27:26,440 --> 01:27:32,500
voy a escuir aquí, vamos a���, vamos a bes Explorer. Lo

893
01:27:32,500 --> 01:27:34,380
tenemos por hacer por favor, con metallicos. Y

894
01:27:34,380 --> 01:27:39,160
aquí tu indemnidad, av��a se zen.

895
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:40,700
Winni-Minute Racist.

896
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:41,300
Gracias.

897
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:43,440
Has Cory Bolsinch.

898
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:45,780
El Prada.

899
01:27:46,380 --> 01:27:47,680
30.000 por each of you.

900
01:27:47,900 --> 01:27:48,380
Waste of money.

901
01:27:49,500 --> 01:27:50,420
Cerro de porca te fue.

902
01:27:51,380 --> 01:27:52,580
Encerro de porca,

903
01:27:53,580 --> 01:27:55,260
70-3 waer, cerro de porca,

904
01:27:58,200 --> 01:27:58,640
Replacer.

905
01:27:59,200 --> 01:27:59,820
Cerro de porca.

906
01:28:02,380 --> 01:28:07,920
Es como, que curre.

907
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,180
Encerro de porca,

908
01:28:48,410 --> 01:28:51,690
¿Por qué no hay no, pero como en la casa de doctor él,

909
01:28:51,690 --> 01:28:51,770
porque que se desvivo?

910
01:28:52,370 --> 01:28:54,270
¿Por qué no que si titha?

911
01:28:54,390 --> 01:28:54,450
Casi.

912
01:28:57,800 --> 01:28:58,620
¿Por qué no, entonces?

913
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:04,860
¿Pero qué no?

914
01:29:04,860 --> 01:29:05,000
¿A qué no?

915
01:29:05,620 --> 01:29:06,460
¿Por si no?

916
01:29:13,830 --> 01:29:14,410
¿Quién?

917
01:29:14,990 --> 01:29:15,330
¿Quién?

918
01:29:17,630 --> 01:29:18,790
¿Lo hacía?

919
01:29:19,250 --> 01:29:19,290
¿Hace a una?

920
01:29:19,290 --> 01:29:21,350
¿Encer no es por qué, como ya?

921
01:29:22,670 --> 01:29:22,830
¿Quién?

922
01:29:25,970 --> 01:29:26,410
¿Quién?

923
01:29:28,590 --> 01:29:29,170
¿Por qué no?

924
01:29:29,170 --> 01:29:29,370
¿A qué no?

925
01:30:05,110 --> 01:30:07,760
We're welcome. We're welcome.

926
01:30:55,380 --> 01:30:58,540
We'll see if we have a last round.

927
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:03,200
Yeah.

928
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:03,220
Yeah.

929
01:31:03,220 --> 01:31:03,300
Yeah.

930
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:06,680
Yeah.

931
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:12,500
so, I had

932
01:31:18,140 --> 01:31:21,740
my first

933
01:31:57,900 --> 01:32:09,960
meeting

934
01:32:13,990 --> 01:32:20,530
with the Navy, the Navy, the Navy, the Navy, the Navy, the Navy,

935
01:42:51,150 --> 01:42:54,350
First undercover, look at them. Just look at them.

936
01:43:30,140 --> 01:43:36,420
Where you at Jill, where you at Jill, I hope you know we're going to take the parks back the cops can't stop us.

937
01:43:37,100 --> 01:43:41,420
Nobody's going to stop us. We're going to take back what belongs to the community and to the people of color.

938
01:45:17,170 --> 01:45:44,130
We're going to take the parks back from you, Jill. The parks are not belong to you. They belong to the community. And we're going to take them back, Jill. We're tired of people with that white, white ideology, come into the communities acting like you guys know what we need in that here complex. You guys cannot ever possibly relate to the people because these are the people that rough and struggles in poverty and they stand on struggles in poverty, because there's no such thing as an American dream. You guys got your undercovers here. You got the old police captain in here.

939
01:45:44,630 --> 01:45:48,630
really didn't think we was going to find them huh. You really got on the cover

940
01:45:48,630 --> 01:45:52,670
police and the chief over here too. The captain. You're really going to do that.

941
01:45:53,350 --> 01:45:57,010
You're really going to make something look like that. All right you man.

942
01:45:57,070 --> 01:46:03,330
Madam City Clerk are we ready to commence so we can hear from the R Zoom audience.

943
01:46:03,330 --> 01:46:04,470
7.

944
01:46:07,270 --> 01:46:07,950
716.

945
01:46:17,790 --> 01:46:19,590
General Manifly, please refer

946
01:46:19,590 --> 01:46:21,230
so we can hear the audience.

947
01:46:21,350 --> 01:46:22,270
That's on board.

948
01:46:24,390 --> 01:46:25,550
Madam City Clerk.

949
01:46:26,830 --> 01:46:28,250
We have a.

950
01:46:28,910 --> 01:46:29,410
Gabbie, Named.

951
01:46:31,550 --> 01:46:32,230
Good

952
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:35,440
evening.

953
01:46:35,780 --> 01:46:37,040
Members of the city council.

954
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:40,480
So, and residents of Southgate and those who are watching live.

955
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:46,840
First and foremost, I don't agree with your city clerk that you did with the previous

956
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:51,980
second speaker that was speaking in Spanish, threatening that you're not going to translate.

957
01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:55,720
That's a Brown Act violation, just for information.

958
01:46:56,760 --> 01:47:01,480
Another Brown Act violation is before two Spanish speakers, you should have given at least six

959
01:47:01,480 --> 01:47:03,520
minutes, which you did, but you did it more later on.

960
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:05,880
That's another one, brown act validation.

961
01:47:07,140 --> 01:47:12,500
Now, continue on to the actual to the presentation from the attorney.

962
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:22,040
There's no concrete evidence what he's showing about resources, but it's pretty much targeting

963
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:28,440
the street vendors and that term that you're using sidewalk vendors, that's classism.

964
01:47:28,440 --> 01:47:31,920
If you don't know what it is, Google it, definition.

965
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:37,840
Another thing is, you're paralyzing the street vendors for a fine of what, $1,000.

966
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:44,440
Just let you know what you're doing is, I love the comment, the person that said that

967
01:47:44,440 --> 01:47:49,840
the street vendors can afford $1,000, you are sorely mistaken, and you need to get really

968
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:54,220
educated on what you're saying, because not all street vendors can afford $1,000.

969
01:47:54,220 --> 01:48:00,980
because, again, we're in a crisis of, as previous speaker said, one paycheck of being homeless.

970
01:48:03,590 --> 01:48:06,830
There's vendors out there, street vendors that are out there looking, you know,

971
01:48:06,910 --> 01:48:12,910
working other jobs to make needs ends, but to penalize them and to criminalize, that's criminalized.

972
01:48:13,730 --> 01:48:21,030
What you're doing, city council members, if you vote tonight and favor that orderance, please do not,

973
01:48:21,510 --> 01:48:27,210
And I repeat, the residents of Southgate others call them out and they're bullshit.

974
01:48:28,130 --> 01:48:30,650
I don't want to see you guys buying tacos, going to Mexico,

975
01:48:30,890 --> 01:48:32,510
and going to street vendors.

976
01:48:33,270 --> 01:48:34,790
Okay, just know that.

977
01:48:35,270 --> 01:48:38,570
You're going against that because I'm pretty sure a lot of you have gone before

978
01:48:38,570 --> 01:48:40,090
and you guys went to Decoin.

979
01:48:40,110 --> 01:48:43,150
I'm pretty sure on whatever it is with your vacation.

980
01:48:43,310 --> 01:48:47,770
And you guys I'm pretty sure 100% you go to that street vendors and that's in the

981
01:48:49,070 --> 01:48:59,530
So just remember that what you're doing right now, what you're doing right now, if you decide to vote, especially that Gil War, I don't know who you are, but what you're doing the conflict of interest.

982
01:49:00,370 --> 01:49:07,670
And I'm pretty sure hopefully someone out there will report that to the FBI or to the district attorneys.

983
01:49:08,470 --> 01:49:12,670
And lastly, lastly, I know my time is up, I got 25 seconds left.

984
01:49:13,810 --> 01:49:22,110
should you pass that order and you will have attorneys and you will be sued. Just know that and you're going to be held

985
01:49:22,110 --> 01:49:29,650
a liable out of the taxpayers dollars are going to be paying for that. All right, that's really sickening what you guys get about to think about it.

986
01:49:29,790 --> 01:49:33,750
Should you vote for that? You will be exposed. Thank you for your time.

987
01:49:34,750 --> 01:49:35,830
And there ain't no peace.

988
01:49:36,030 --> 01:49:36,390
Thank you.

989
01:49:36,430 --> 01:49:38,230
And there ain't no peace because the matter is left.

990
01:49:38,550 --> 01:49:39,230
Take that part back.

991
01:49:39,450 --> 01:49:40,550
We're going to take the community back.

992
01:49:40,830 --> 01:49:41,790
There ain't going to be no peace.

993
01:49:41,950 --> 01:49:42,830
No peace.

994
01:49:43,350 --> 01:49:43,710
No peace.

995
01:49:44,210 --> 01:49:46,290
We have call in user two.

996
01:49:46,850 --> 01:49:47,830
So I had zero two.

997
01:49:53,580 --> 01:49:54,360
Yeah, the same.

998
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:56,740
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to stick.

999
01:49:57,620 --> 01:49:59,600
I want to encourage the city council.

1000
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:29,920
It's space where we can speak. People were doing main calling and harassing us, so we had to make this call. We agree that we need regulations to protect everybody. Many parents from the school sites have complained because we don't have enough regulations to ensure that the children have access to clean vendors and we agree that the city needs to

1001
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:36,240
follow the steps that are required. We only ask that you give street vendor support

1002
01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:43,540
so that they can have a warning rather than a ticket immediately so that they can have also

1003
01:50:43,540 --> 01:50:49,400
support in the city and they will be able to complete whatever paperwork is necessary.

1004
01:50:50,020 --> 01:50:58,240
So please continue to do the implementation and provide support so that everybody will be able

1005
01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:03,140
to get the paperwork that they need to continue making a living.

1006
01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:05,760
We understand that we need to make a living.

1007
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:10,660
We are just asking to follow rules so that everybody will be safe.

1008
01:51:11,380 --> 01:51:12,240
Thank you for that.

1009
01:51:12,660 --> 01:51:17,940
And I encourage you to ensure that these council meetings have safe spaces

1010
01:51:17,940 --> 01:51:21,180
where there is no harassment and no name calling.

1011
01:51:21,820 --> 01:51:23,020
Thank you for your time.

1012
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:26,720
You're doing a great job and I hope that you get the respect of you deserve.

1013
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:28,880
Thank you.

1014
01:51:31,730 --> 01:51:32,490
Next speaker.

1015
01:51:34,050 --> 01:51:36,230
We have Mr Mario Dominguez.

1016
01:51:36,690 --> 01:51:37,930
Go ahead, Mr Dominguez.

1017
01:51:39,170 --> 01:51:43,150
Okay, so I'm trying to think how does this become such a big issue?

1018
01:51:43,510 --> 01:51:49,450
If you listen to the audio recordings for the April 11th and April 25th city council meetings,

1019
01:51:49,650 --> 01:51:53,570
you have council member Hurtado saying, look, we have no choice.

1020
01:51:53,850 --> 01:51:57,610
We're going to have to fall in line with these two senate bills that passed last year.

1021
01:51:57,610 --> 01:52:00,630
There's no way we're going to be able to dodge this, but there's no way around it.

1022
01:52:00,870 --> 01:52:06,830
We're going to have to comply and adopt these state senate bells into our ordinance.

1023
01:52:07,450 --> 01:52:11,890
Now the council, you need to explain to these folks that are in that room, that that is

1024
01:52:11,890 --> 01:52:12,590
what we're doing.

1025
01:52:12,810 --> 01:52:18,410
We're not doing anything out of the ordinary that any other city in the state of California

1026
01:52:18,410 --> 01:52:19,710
is also doing.

1027
01:52:20,010 --> 01:52:24,930
So that means all the cities like South of the City of Los Angeles, all the East LA communities,

1028
01:52:24,930 --> 01:52:29,850
all the cities to the west of LA, all the cities in Orange County, Anaheim, you name it.

1029
01:52:29,990 --> 01:52:36,010
Every city within the state of California has to adopt and comply with these two Senate

1030
01:52:36,010 --> 01:52:36,270
bills.

1031
01:52:36,710 --> 01:52:42,090
So if the folks in that room have agreements with our city council members, then guess what?

1032
01:52:42,170 --> 01:52:45,090
They're going to have problems with every other city within the state of California.

1033
01:52:45,430 --> 01:52:46,810
You didn't explain that to these people.

1034
01:52:47,050 --> 01:52:47,910
That's what we're doing.

1035
01:52:48,250 --> 01:52:49,270
And why are we doing it?

1036
01:52:49,270 --> 01:52:52,750
Because state law supersedes county law.

1037
01:52:52,750 --> 01:52:57,050
state law supersedes city law and city ordinances.

1038
01:52:57,490 --> 01:52:59,050
You got to communicate that to the folks.

1039
01:52:59,730 --> 01:53:02,190
The other thing I want to ask Chief Arcawa,

1040
01:53:02,430 --> 01:53:04,470
we had that street fair not too long ago,

1041
01:53:04,730 --> 01:53:07,690
where he had vendors paid to participate

1042
01:53:07,690 --> 01:53:09,170
and be a part of the fair,

1043
01:53:09,470 --> 01:53:12,390
and then you had other vendors that came in outside

1044
01:53:12,390 --> 01:53:14,770
and participated, that weren't included,

1045
01:53:14,970 --> 01:53:17,290
didn't pay their share to participate in the fair.

1046
01:53:17,590 --> 01:53:18,470
So I questioned to the chief,

1047
01:53:18,590 --> 01:53:20,670
how did you handle that situation?

1048
01:53:20,670 --> 01:53:27,270
How are those vendors that didn't pay to participate, officially, in the Tweety-Miles

1049
01:53:27,270 --> 01:53:27,570
Street Fair?

1050
01:53:27,730 --> 01:53:33,250
How did you regulate and control that situation with those that paid and those that didn't

1051
01:53:33,250 --> 01:53:34,490
but still wanted to participate?

1052
01:53:34,670 --> 01:53:36,910
I'm just curious if you can lend me to that.

1053
01:53:37,670 --> 01:53:42,630
And again, I want to hit on one of the other speakers mentioned about, there needs to be

1054
01:53:42,630 --> 01:53:48,090
some sort of community liaison person for the works on behalf of the city and is going

1055
01:53:48,090 --> 01:53:54,750
to help these street vendors get the necessary documents or paperwork whatever is necessary

1056
01:53:54,750 --> 01:54:00,370
for them to be up to code and up to speed with how things are going to be done here.

1057
01:54:00,850 --> 01:54:06,570
And the big thing, the big problem I have is with Mr. Mussolini, Robert Montalvo,

1058
01:54:07,010 --> 01:54:12,750
and Thomas Chikenship Buckley, you have these two wild jackals running a muck on social media.

1059
01:54:12,750 --> 01:54:19,890
Yeah. And this is the reason why on social media, you have people threatening to kill

1060
01:54:19,890 --> 01:54:26,770
Gilbert Todd because you have these two fools putting out misinformation and distorting

1061
01:54:26,770 --> 01:54:33,690
what is actually happening and putting out a false message to the people. You, City Hall officials,

1062
01:54:33,910 --> 01:54:40,590
you all have social media accounts. You all need to communicate and do a better job of telling folks

1063
01:54:40,590 --> 01:54:44,610
This is where we stand on this matter, on this particular topic, and so on and so forth.

1064
01:54:45,090 --> 01:54:45,810
Thank you very much.

1065
01:54:50,390 --> 01:54:50,870
Yep,

1066
01:54:54,670 --> 01:54:55,270
next caller.

1067
01:54:55,690 --> 01:54:57,010
We have caller TMA.

1068
01:55:02,380 --> 01:55:11,300
Caller, TMA? Yes, hi. I'm president of 3-month association, and we serve the 2-month merchants

1069
01:55:11,300 --> 01:55:17,260
to make this boulevard very attractive and inviting for the customers to come in and shop

1070
01:55:17,260 --> 01:55:24,440
here, help small businesses, mom, pop businesses, and all these businesses are for me for different

1071
01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:29,120
reason whenever they have a problem with the issue with the city or street or other things.

1072
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:36,840
And right now since this topic is a hot topic about merchants that are struggling, especially

1073
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:40,900
the merchants, restaurant people who really suffer during the COVID time.

1074
01:55:41,660 --> 01:55:46,620
So they are suffering again because of the competition with the street vendor.

1075
01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:54,180
And they are requesting that there should be fear as they are spending money on licenses

1076
01:55:54,180 --> 01:55:54,940
and stuff.

1077
01:55:55,220 --> 01:55:57,420
They are not against vendors.

1078
01:55:57,420 --> 01:56:04,200
they are just saying everybody should be on the same page. Now we had a big problem at the

1079
01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:09,540
street fair where people who paid a lot of money for licenses, health department licenses,

1080
01:56:10,080 --> 01:56:15,440
and location, and they were complaining that they won't be coming back because these street

1081
01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:20,900
genders are really affecting the business and they're not going to make enough money to come back

1082
01:56:20,900 --> 01:56:27,800
flex time. So this is also a concern. But remember this, this money, whatever money is made from the

1083
01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:33,720
fear, it goes to the boulevard, beautification of boulevard facade renovation of different businesses,

1084
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:40,440
the window replacement program and things like that. So, but I'm really glad that the council is

1085
01:56:40,440 --> 01:56:46,340
working on this regulation today, because street vendors are also human being, you know, they're just

1086
01:56:46,340 --> 01:56:51,220
like anybody, everybody else have families, they need to take care of their family, they're

1087
01:56:51,220 --> 01:56:59,040
trying to survive in this con. And I request today to please, to the council that please help

1088
01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:05,780
these vendors with state and local laws, by making it easy for them so that they can locally sell

1089
01:57:05,780 --> 01:57:11,360
their products with the backup from license, from state, health department, other jurisdiction,

1090
01:57:11,360 --> 01:57:17,940
So that they can be part of this business community and thrive and can take care of their families.

1091
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:22,980
I understand that South Getty Council is just trying to follow the state laws,

1092
01:57:23,340 --> 01:57:28,560
but if possible, please make it easy as easy we can for the street vendors.

1093
01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:35,300
And if needed, please increase the staff or liaison or whatever is needed to help these business.

1094
01:57:36,180 --> 01:57:43,880
help the street vendors transition into businesses where they are serving their community and their their constituent.

1095
01:57:44,680 --> 01:57:52,480
With the good oppression that hey, we are doing it by the books. We are with respect to cleaning licensing all kind of stuff.

1096
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:56,200
So people will come for them and buy more stuff from street vendors.

1097
01:57:57,060 --> 01:58:02,340
So please look at the both side and help wherever they you guys can help these vendors. Thank you.

1098
01:58:02,340 --> 01:58:04,620
Thank you.

1099
01:58:04,620 --> 01:58:04,980
Thank you.

1100
01:58:05,180 --> 01:58:06,040
Next caller.

1101
01:58:07,120 --> 01:58:08,620
We have Becky Espinoza.

1102
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:10,480
Go ahead, Mrs. Spinoza.

1103
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:16,940
Go ahead.

1104
01:58:17,440 --> 01:58:17,840
Hello.

1105
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:18,440
Can you hear me?

1106
01:58:19,020 --> 01:58:19,400
Yes.

1107
01:58:20,660 --> 01:58:21,200
Okay.

1108
01:58:21,300 --> 01:58:21,500
Wonderful.

1109
01:58:22,260 --> 01:58:22,920
So, um,

1110
01:58:26,380 --> 01:58:26,860
respectfully,

1111
01:58:30,310 --> 01:58:35,270
was that presentation from that, uh, Mr. James Becker?

1112
01:58:35,510 --> 01:58:44,550
I believe the same was, um, one because I am obviously not there, but there was no way to

1113
01:58:44,550 --> 01:58:51,970
look at that ordinance proposal on my own. And I want to be able to understand it, not

1114
01:58:51,970 --> 01:59:00,630
be told what it is from someone who has been paid a significant amount of money for that.

1115
01:59:00,970 --> 01:59:07,450
And who's to say that the people on the council are also barely reading this proposal.

1116
01:59:07,450 --> 01:59:13,830
What if they're just hearing it for the first time from this lawyer and granted, you know,

1117
01:59:14,030 --> 01:59:22,110
I don't know much about city politics or how you guys spend your, but the thing is, is that

1118
01:59:22,510 --> 01:59:27,870
if you're going to be proposing something, make it accessible to everyone in every language

1119
01:59:27,870 --> 01:59:29,650
that is spoken in the city.

1120
01:59:29,650 --> 01:59:37,450
So make it in Spanish, make it in Mandarin, Thai, like whatever, make it accessible for us.

1121
01:59:37,950 --> 01:59:42,110
So that way we can further do research, further understand it.

1122
01:59:42,210 --> 01:59:45,670
And granted I understand that we're not the ones that are voting for it, but we're the

1123
01:59:45,670 --> 01:59:47,390
people that are going to be affected by it.

1124
01:59:47,670 --> 01:59:55,190
So we should be able to be able to get our hands on it and not just be told by some lawyer

1125
01:59:55,190 --> 01:59:59,150
who's in his vehicle, and like a...

1126
02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:26,480
And I feel like that is just very disrespectful as as someone who has grown up and lives in

1127
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:35,700
Southgate because if this is truly for the welfare of the community why are we not able to take a

1128
02:00:35,700 --> 02:00:45,380
look at this, be able to have it in our hands as opposed to just being told by a guy that's being

1129
02:00:45,380 --> 02:00:56,940
paid a significant amount of money and that money is coming from our tax dollars. So I think

1130
02:00:58,720 --> 02:01:14,360
Respectfully, like, you guys seem to do better, and yeah, man, like I don't understand how so many of you guys are so out of touch with the people that live and are trying to thrive in this community.

1131
02:01:14,820 --> 02:01:21,360
But are being pushed down by the different ordinances that you guys are trying to propose and or are like.

1132
02:01:22,720 --> 02:01:23,680
Next slide.

1133
02:01:24,380 --> 02:01:25,680
We have Southgate resident.

1134
02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:29,400
Go ahead.

1135
02:01:30,020 --> 02:01:30,800
Hi, good afternoon.

1136
02:01:32,460 --> 02:01:35,720
I am a resident of the city of Southgate.

1137
02:01:36,020 --> 02:01:37,880
And I wasn't planning on participating,

1138
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:40,560
but I'll just need to comment on a couple of things.

1139
02:01:40,980 --> 02:01:43,000
I don't want to rehash everything

1140
02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:44,280
that most people have already said.

1141
02:01:44,940 --> 02:01:49,200
I do actually agree with most of the comments

1142
02:01:49,780 --> 02:01:51,140
from some of the participants.

1143
02:01:51,140 --> 02:01:57,940
I agree that this ordinance, the way I read it while in the meeting, is not really intended

1144
02:01:57,940 --> 02:02:02,040
to regulate or even deter street type vending.

1145
02:02:02,520 --> 02:02:10,460
It is the fact to elimination of the opportunity of many of these street vendors to earn an

1146
02:02:10,460 --> 02:02:10,920
honest living.

1147
02:02:13,170 --> 02:02:20,060
The reason I felt compelled to speak is because I feel like the city of Southgate and every

1148
02:02:20,060 --> 02:02:26,320
receiving the county of Los Angeles should do everything in their power at this point

1149
02:02:26,860 --> 02:02:29,560
to alleviate the homeless crisis.

1150
02:02:30,300 --> 02:02:35,800
You might say we can walk and shoot them at the same time, but by removing the opportunity

1151
02:02:35,800 --> 02:02:40,700
of hundreds of people to earn an honest living, people that either live in Southgate or nearby,

1152
02:02:41,400 --> 02:02:45,680
you're removing the opportunity for them to earn an honest living and to pay their mortgage,

1153
02:02:46,080 --> 02:02:47,340
to pay their rent, whatever it is.

1154
02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:51,640
You're creating, you're adding to the problem,

1155
02:02:52,460 --> 02:02:53,980
then solving any problem.

1156
02:02:54,100 --> 02:02:57,060
Yeah, we need to adhere to stay law and all of that.

1157
02:02:57,220 --> 02:02:57,980
I understand that.

1158
02:02:58,480 --> 02:03:01,380
But I think I didn't see a survey

1159
02:03:03,280 --> 02:03:05,200
asking the community what we thought

1160
02:03:05,200 --> 02:03:07,340
or what our opinion was in this ordinance.

1161
02:03:08,060 --> 02:03:11,100
He seems that it's hostile to the community

1162
02:03:11,100 --> 02:03:12,480
and to the street type vendors.

1163
02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:16,680
I think you guys could have taken

1164
02:03:16,680 --> 02:03:23,220
a better approach. The last thing I want to say is that a lot of people cannot afford to go to

1165
02:03:23,220 --> 02:03:29,260
the fancy ice cream places, goldstone, or let me jogana, or other places. People are on a budget.

1166
02:03:29,500 --> 02:03:33,300
There might be a single mom with a couple of kids at home. They don't have a card to go to these

1167
02:03:33,300 --> 02:03:38,280
places and be able to spend 40 bucks. They have 10 bucks. All they can afford is a respawn.

1168
02:03:38,780 --> 02:03:44,120
All right, I love it. Like my mom did when I was a kid. And the last thing I want to say is that

1169
02:03:44,740 --> 02:03:47,760
Mr. Anchor did a pretty good job on his presentation.

1170
02:03:48,680 --> 02:03:55,180
You know, he didn't point out to some of the most words limitations on the ordinance.

1171
02:03:55,840 --> 02:04:01,500
But he should know his audience.

1172
02:04:01,860 --> 02:04:04,080
He should know the Southgate is 90% Hispanic.

1173
02:04:04,480 --> 02:04:06,940
So on his presentation, when he said telling you,

1174
02:04:07,160 --> 02:04:11,940
the council knew that this is a source object, right?

1175
02:04:12,820 --> 02:04:16,660
You knew that the community feels attacked by this ordinance.

1176
02:04:17,300 --> 02:04:20,600
You should have checked his PowerPoint because he's saying,

1177
02:04:20,780 --> 02:04:26,320
oh, this is the things that the, well, I'm going to be caught up in three seconds,

1178
02:04:26,700 --> 02:04:29,840
but he has a picture of Amaga and Trump.

1179
02:04:32,480 --> 02:04:34,100
Yeah, I might have been caught already.

1180
02:04:35,980 --> 02:04:36,880
Next caller.

1181
02:04:37,660 --> 02:04:39,540
We have color in and 175.

1182
02:04:39,540 --> 02:04:42,400
five. Go ahead, one, seven, five.

1183
02:04:50,360 --> 02:04:55,090
Color, one, seven, five, seven, nine,

1184
02:04:59,180 --> 02:04:59,980
way to the people find

1185
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:01,440
There is police chief.

1186
02:05:03,800 --> 02:05:04,920
Caller 175.

1187
02:05:07,440 --> 02:05:29,180
Oh, sorry. Yes, this is Sheila. And I just like to say a couple of things that, first of all, I don't understand why people are not understanding that this is a state regulation. This is put into place by who you voted into office. This is government added finance, California government added finance.

1188
02:05:29,180 --> 02:05:37,140
And I would like to know why these people that have been so disrespectful don't have

1189
02:05:37,140 --> 02:05:44,580
to talk in public. Use proper language and make threats are allowed to stay in the meeting.

1190
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:46,880
Oh.

1191
02:05:48,940 --> 02:05:52,980
Shut up. This is for the people right here. Protect the street vendors. You ain't going to stop.

1192
02:05:52,980 --> 02:06:03,560
No, I'm going to stop my time. You had your shot up as women shut up decolonize your mind.

1193
02:06:04,080 --> 02:06:10,240
No, you're the problem. Why would I want to do anything?

1194
02:06:13,640 --> 02:06:15,780
Go ahead, ma'am.

1195
02:06:15,780 --> 02:06:17,300
Madison is over. Go ahead, continue.

1196
02:06:43,190 --> 02:06:54,970
I'd like to know why these people over here being disrespectful again think that I would want to do business with any of them.

1197
02:06:57,670 --> 02:07:14,650
these people, okay, this is my time being quiet, this is my time, this is my time, this

1198
02:07:14,650 --> 02:07:21,390
is my time, be respectful, shut up, that's your third warning,

1199
02:07:24,630 --> 02:07:25,470
over night activists,

1200
02:07:26,690 --> 02:07:30,470
We gave you an opportunity. Please allow her to speak.

1201
02:07:32,110 --> 02:07:34,290
That man needs to be taken out.

1202
02:07:34,870 --> 02:07:36,950
If we could have the speaker's pause

1203
02:07:36,950 --> 02:07:39,990
by the mayor is addressing the audience here, please.

1204
02:07:41,170 --> 02:07:41,310
Yes.

1205
02:07:42,190 --> 02:07:43,150
Thank you.

1206
02:07:44,950 --> 02:07:47,450
We heard what you all have said.

1207
02:07:47,910 --> 02:07:50,230
Can we please show some decorum and respect

1208
02:07:50,230 --> 02:07:52,430
for those that are for those

1209
02:07:52,430 --> 02:08:09,850
Because there ain't no reason to respect that our actual peace. I mean myself clear respect the street vendor the people who make up this community. So met him here. Yes, again under the rules of the quorum that every city has people can be given a initial warning.

1210
02:08:09,850 --> 02:08:19,290
And then after that, if you don't get the decorum that's fired for, then I would suggest

1211
02:08:19,290 --> 02:08:21,990
the council recess.

1212
02:08:22,930 --> 02:08:29,510
And if the council feels or the mayor feels like we can clear the chambers if we don't

1213
02:08:29,510 --> 02:08:33,370
feel like we're going to get the ability for us to continue the city business.

1214
02:08:33,670 --> 02:08:34,130
Now you wait.

1215
02:08:34,130 --> 02:08:42,070
So again, again, I am showing you respect, show this council respect.

1216
02:08:42,330 --> 02:08:43,690
It's the biggest disrespect to the street.

1217
02:08:43,870 --> 02:08:46,410
Again, it's the biggest respect to the street.

1218
02:08:46,430 --> 02:08:48,330
We're speaking about respect, sir.

1219
02:08:48,750 --> 02:08:50,670
Let's be respectful of the process.

1220
02:08:50,850 --> 02:08:52,710
When you target the struggling class, there is no peace.

1221
02:08:52,710 --> 02:08:54,390
I think we're going to go ahead and take a recess.

1222
02:08:54,650 --> 02:08:55,250
So we can clear.

1223
02:08:55,750 --> 02:08:57,730
It's so we'll be clearing the chamber.

1224
02:08:57,930 --> 02:08:59,750
Well, please, thank you.

1225
02:09:00,430 --> 02:09:03,110
Speaker that you're on zoom, go ahead and stay on zoom.

1226
02:09:03,110 --> 02:09:09,450
we will resume after council chambers is cleared. Thank you. Okay. Thank you.

1227
02:09:10,090 --> 02:09:16,610
I have manners. Shut up. Don't keep your thoughts. It's

1228
02:09:16,610 --> 02:09:18,430
fuck you. Where's somebody?

1229
02:09:21,100 --> 02:09:25,420
Stop tone policing. Stop tone policing. People are being displaced

1230
02:09:25,420 --> 02:09:34,880
every day and they don't have money to feed their children. Stop tone policing. The real danger and the

1231
02:09:46,580 --> 02:09:50,800
Come on, police chief. Let the people know how you target black and brown people at five times the rate of white people and let

1232
02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:58,220
them know how you find an illegal substance at white people at a higher rate. Let them know how 40% of domestic violence cases are caused by law enforcement. You fucking fed us.

1233
02:10:02,450 --> 02:10:21,930
Reels, you guys should have done a town hall meeting before calling a special meeting for this. You guys messed up. You got the street vendors. They should have been a town hall meeting. You guys should have had allowed for more community input versus doing a special meeting for tax street vendors.

1234
02:10:25,160 --> 02:10:31,720
This meeting is not going to go anywhere. You guys are wasting city beforts on a special meeting to attack street vendors.

1235
02:11:01,880 --> 02:11:04,000
This agenda should be take hold.

1236
02:19:10,980 --> 02:19:11,340
We're going to be talking

1237
02:19:19,730 --> 02:19:42,670
about the federal government. They're having a lot of studies. They really thought they was going to shut us up. Come on, Giller Tato, where you at, Giller Tato? You ain't going to display some people no more, Giller Tato? We let you know what it is already. You ain't going to display some people, no more.

1238
02:19:42,670 --> 02:19:44,250
killer Tato you

1239
02:19:48,120 --> 02:19:50,780
disconnected my purse my got your second my killer Tato

1240
02:19:50,780 --> 02:19:53,540
next thing you know I'll be up on the fucking podium talking out of your

1241
02:19:53,540 --> 02:19:54,400
my killer Tato

1242
02:21:23,240 --> 02:21:29,260
Aye, SCA, SCA. Ask that lady why is she coming up to talk for a community that is made up

1243
02:21:29,260 --> 02:21:36,120
of people of color? Let us know, lady, why is your white ass here trying to talk on

1244
02:21:36,120 --> 02:21:38,140
a community that is made up of people of color?

1245
02:21:38,140 --> 02:21:38,200
here.

1246
02:21:41,020 --> 02:21:45,400
As long as I have a lens here, dumb fox. Shut up.

1247
02:21:49,650 --> 02:21:52,690
Shut up, lady. White is not right.

1248
02:22:06,630 --> 02:22:11,170
Man, fuck the cops too. Fuck the cops. Fuck the fellow officers.

1249
02:22:49,920 --> 02:22:51,800
Hey, let them know how

1250
02:22:51,800 --> 02:22:57,160
40% of domestic violence cases are caused by law enforcement. Let them know. Let them

1251
02:22:57,160 --> 02:22:57,400
No,

1252
02:22:59,800 --> 02:23:14,600
ladies and gentlemen, three warnings were given for decorum. We're closing this down. Yeah, shut up.

1253
02:23:14,920 --> 02:23:17,040
Shut up. Attack the street vendors.

1254
02:23:17,980 --> 02:23:19,180
Protect the street vendors.

1255
02:23:23,880 --> 02:23:25,880
Nobody wants to protect dogs.

1256
02:23:27,680 --> 02:23:29,760
man shut the fuck up protect the

1257
02:23:29,760 --> 02:23:32,520
street vendors shut the fuck up protect

1258
02:23:32,520 --> 02:23:34,080
the street vendors I could turn this

1259
02:23:34,080 --> 02:23:35,420
shit back on because I pay taxes

1260
02:23:35,420 --> 02:23:38,420
free now with your attitude dude now

1261
02:23:38,420 --> 02:23:39,200
with your attitude

1262
02:27:40,590 --> 02:27:43,150
Can you, uh, control the mic from the panel?

1263
02:27:45,790 --> 02:27:48,830
That one does. The panel's links to when I think it's supposed

1264
02:27:51,200 --> 02:27:51,920
to close, but

1265
02:29:08,210 --> 02:29:09,530
it's here in the council.

1266
02:29:12,050 --> 02:29:17,230
So, uh, so we'll see what happens. Yeah,

1267
02:29:20,630 --> 02:29:24,550
I saw

1268
02:29:29,670 --> 02:29:30,590
you. Yeah.

1269
02:33:38,640 --> 02:34:08,700
Madam City clerk, we are resuming our special council meeting, passing it over to our city manager. Thank you, Madam Mayor City Council. So as the public may know now, at least three warnings were given to the individuals in the chambers to mind their disruptiveness and stop interrupting speakers and the process at hand.

1270
02:34:09,920 --> 02:34:19,900
Failing to do that, which they actively said that they would not adhere to that directive by the chair or the mayor of the city council.

1271
02:34:20,600 --> 02:34:23,500
The mayor ordered that all the chambers be.

1272
02:34:25,500 --> 02:34:29,060
Everybody in the chambers be removed, which has occurred now.

1273
02:34:29,060 --> 02:34:44,980
and so we can continue. I would suggest that for the Zoom audience, while we have a picture that we indicate anybody that does not indicate by raising their hand now over the next minute,

1274
02:34:45,680 --> 02:34:51,900
we're going to close public participation through Zoom at that point.

1275
02:34:51,900 --> 02:34:56,320
So if you have not raised your hand by then,

1276
02:34:59,100 --> 02:34:59,700
then

1277
02:35:01,100 --> 02:35:13,360
And not spoken already through Zoom. We will ask the mayor to please close the Zoom audience

1278
02:35:13,360 --> 02:35:21,180
as far as new attendees to that process. So we now have a list here of people which we

1279
02:35:21,180 --> 02:35:29,700
have in front of us so we know who's on the Zoom prior to the chambers being cleared.

1280
02:35:29,700 --> 02:35:41,080
So with that, again, I want to stress to the public that may not be here, you know, the

1281
02:35:42,000 --> 02:35:48,240
council has a set of rules of the court and the rules of the court are to allow everyone

1282
02:35:48,240 --> 02:35:55,800
to fairly and freely express their opinion whether it be pro or con against whatever issue

1283
02:35:55,800 --> 02:36:02,280
or topic may be discussed, but the premise of that all relies on us being civil to one another,

1284
02:36:02,540 --> 02:36:11,020
and when individuals decide not to exercise respect and civility towards one another,

1285
02:36:11,540 --> 02:36:17,560
and in essence prevent the city council from carrying out the business of the city,

1286
02:36:18,120 --> 02:36:24,300
then that's when such action as what has occurred here tonight are necessary, and are not,

1287
02:36:24,300 --> 02:36:40,880
Unfortunately, uncommon in a lot of city businesses, council meetings that go forward for that. So I do want to first commend the Southgate Police Department. I think they did, again, another professional job of handling the situation.

1288
02:36:41,200 --> 02:36:46,760
I want to ask that anybody else that's going to be on zoom.

1289
02:36:46,760 --> 02:37:07,140
Please remember the civility of our meeting, and you know, we're here to listen and hear and take your input. And then at the conclusion of that, of course, we're here to answer any questions that the council may have about the business item in front of them tonight from that.

1290
02:37:07,340 --> 02:37:13,800
So with that Madam Mayor, I would ask that we now proceed back with the zoom audience participation.

1291
02:37:14,520 --> 02:37:16,720
Thank you so much, Mr. City Manager.

1292
02:37:17,460 --> 02:37:20,280
So, caller ending in 175.

1293
02:37:21,580 --> 02:37:21,900
We will.

1294
02:37:23,220 --> 02:37:23,920
And reach them.

1295
02:37:24,760 --> 02:37:26,340
We'll go ahead. She has two minutes left.

1296
02:37:31,040 --> 02:37:31,520
You did nice.

1297
02:37:33,020 --> 02:37:35,020
Hi. Thank you.

1298
02:37:35,640 --> 02:37:44,780
Madam Mayor, I'd like to just say just to let all of you and all of the city council members know that this is all being filmed YouTube and is going live.

1299
02:37:44,780 --> 02:37:55,920
just to let you know all the ruckus in the chambers. I would like to know if I know

1300
02:37:55,920 --> 02:38:06,940
that permits have to be gotten for vendors to do their business. Do they need to be

1301
02:38:06,940 --> 02:38:10,960
on display for public to see them.

1302
02:38:13,180 --> 02:38:18,340
It could potentially, if they are, maybe we need to

1303
02:38:18,340 --> 02:38:24,540
know what we're looking for, but it could potentially lead to a diminished number of

1304
02:38:24,540 --> 02:38:32,620
calls to just that truth already overworked. So that's kind of my concern. My concern earlier

1305
02:38:32,620 --> 02:38:43,460
was about street sidewalks being blocked. I have family members in wheelchairs and that was

1306
02:38:43,460 --> 02:38:54,500
a concern but that was all stood up by the attorney or by Mr. Eckert. So thank you. I'm sorry,

1307
02:38:54,640 --> 02:39:02,180
Gail, so what you had to go through threats are not acceptable in any way shape or form and thank you

1308
02:39:02,180 --> 02:39:07,620
for listening to us and I know you guys will decide to do what you need to do in order

1309
02:39:07,620 --> 02:39:15,440
to, you know, go along with what California's regulated mandated as what needs to be done.

1310
02:39:16,520 --> 02:39:20,780
I hope you all have a good evening and maybe several drinks after this.

1311
02:39:22,940 --> 02:39:24,060
Thank you so much.

1312
02:39:24,080 --> 02:39:24,560
Next caller.

1313
02:39:27,010 --> 02:39:32,170
On the list, I have a color in 736, color 736.

1314
02:39:32,170 --> 02:39:32,470
6.

1315
02:39:37,810 --> 02:39:40,070
Buenas noches, gracias por esta oportunidad.

1316
02:39:40,850 --> 02:39:46,750
Le damos muchas gracias al concidio de la ciudad de Southgate por tomar regulaciones.

1317
02:39:47,430 --> 02:39:55,190
Y espero que así como pasan esta ley también tengan los pasos claros y ayuda para los

1318
02:39:55,190 --> 02:39:56,670
Thank you.

1319
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:05,000
Tome pausas para que el reductor no traduzca en inglés. Son momentos por favor.

1320
02:40:07,290 --> 02:40:17,130
Empiezo de nuevo, por favor. Gracias. Muchas gracias al concidio de la ciudad por esta oportunidad para apoler.

1321
02:40:17,430 --> 02:40:23,590
City Council for this opportunity. Para poder regular a los bendores ambulantes.

1322
02:40:26,490 --> 02:40:33,070
Esta vemos que quieren necesitan enforzar reglas y les pedimos que tengan los pasos claros.

1323
02:40:37,080 --> 02:40:46,640
si lo pueda repetir porque no se oye muy bien o si que les agradecemos que le pongan reglas

1324
02:40:46,640 --> 02:40:54,780
a los vendedores ambulantes y que también tengan los pasos claros para pasarlos termisos.

1325
02:41:10,210 --> 02:41:22,770
y por lo que les agradecemos por su enteresa y les decimos que estamos orgullosos de ustedes y que los respetamos.

1326
02:41:42,470 --> 02:41:50,150
Gracias por aceptar las regulaciones. Sabemos que ninguno de ustedes tiene una agenda personal.

1327
02:41:50,150 --> 02:41:56,770
Thank you for going through this process, we know that none of you have a personal agenda.

1328
02:41:59,530 --> 02:42:03,030
Están y han hecho un trabajo excelente, muchas gracias.

1329
02:42:03,990 --> 02:42:08,030
And this is the job, excellent work. Thank you very much.

1330
02:42:10,300 --> 02:42:10,840
Thank you.

1331
02:42:12,480 --> 02:42:13,380
Next caller.

1332
02:42:20,960 --> 02:42:23,320
We have caller in and in 609.

1333
02:42:31,210 --> 02:42:31,650
Hola,

1334
02:42:33,770 --> 02:42:34,770
este es Thomas Buckley.

1335
02:42:35,290 --> 02:42:37,310
Un día a los años antes de Selvete Mayor,

1336
02:42:37,510 --> 02:42:39,870
Belén Bernal warned Gilhertado about this day.

1337
02:42:40,510 --> 02:42:43,470
She said that Mr. Hertado should resign first from the JA

1338
02:42:44,030 --> 02:42:45,930
so that it wouldn't be a conflict of interest.

1339
02:42:46,430 --> 02:42:47,650
And today you can see she was right.

1340
02:42:48,710 --> 02:42:49,950
Vice Mayor Gilhertado,

1341
02:42:50,170 --> 02:42:52,230
you've hijacked our city's legislative body

1342
02:42:52,230 --> 02:42:54,450
and tonight the community has called you out.

1343
02:42:55,010 --> 02:42:57,150
The public knows that your organization

1344
02:42:57,150 --> 02:42:59,390
la opción es de la política de la ciudad,

1345
02:42:59,910 --> 02:43:01,390
el council member, Josh Burroun,

1346
02:43:01,550 --> 02:43:02,730
nos dice eso.

1347
02:43:02,770 --> 02:43:04,050
Se llama Josh, el señor de la izquierda,

1348
02:43:04,830 --> 02:43:06,550
porque es loyal a tu organización.

1349
02:43:06,850 --> 02:43:09,670
Él fue el primer que votó a la Comisión.

1350
02:43:10,250 --> 02:43:11,110
En Vice-Maire,

1351
02:43:11,770 --> 02:43:12,110
Hortado,

1352
02:43:13,270 --> 02:43:15,570
quiere la publicación que la ciudad

1353
02:43:15,570 --> 02:43:17,190
es adoptada de las organizaciones,

1354
02:43:17,190 --> 02:43:18,970
para complicar con SB946,

1355
02:43:19,870 --> 02:43:20,350
972,

1356
02:43:20,990 --> 02:43:22,870
pero la comunidad nos den mejor, Mr. Hortado.

1357
02:43:23,430 --> 02:43:24,330
Se sabe que tú eres el primer,

1358
02:43:24,330 --> 02:43:27,750
en quero barking on more instructions than what state law requires,

1359
02:43:28,190 --> 02:43:32,870
they know that you're carrying over the what 100 foot recruitment rules

1360
02:43:33,650 --> 02:43:34,830
that surround the park,

1361
02:43:35,050 --> 02:43:38,470
that is not state law, that Southgate law.

1362
02:43:40,710 --> 02:43:44,670
And, you know, Council, if you just would listen to the community,

1363
02:43:45,070 --> 02:43:48,890
You know that this is very personal to them because

1364
02:43:48,890 --> 02:43:50,030
you're attacking their culture.

1365
02:43:51,030 --> 02:43:54,130
The city needs to either end or renegotiate its contract

1366
02:43:54,130 --> 02:43:58,670
con Mr. Hurtado y la organización, porque las personas saben quiénes están ahora,

1367
02:43:59,330 --> 02:44:02,490
y se saben lo que están haciendo no es correcto.

1368
02:44:03,250 --> 02:44:07,170
Polar Avalos, la Radavela, El Rios, no hay que ser complicados.

1369
02:44:07,910 --> 02:44:10,650
Pero si hay que ser, no hay que ser que las personas se han quedado accountable.

1370
02:44:11,590 --> 02:44:15,970
Y para darles una levidad, como un residente de mi, que es muy interesting,

1371
02:44:16,130 --> 02:44:18,850
que dice que me parece que es el presidente de Mr. Dela Paz, no es el puente de puente.

1372
02:44:19,410 --> 02:44:23,050
Así que yo digo que el residente, sí, creo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es lo que es la gente.

1373
02:44:23,050 --> 02:44:24,650
Thank you so much.

1374
02:44:29,410 --> 02:44:30,330
Thank you next caller.

1375
02:44:30,870 --> 02:44:33,090
We have Bridget on the line.

1376
02:44:33,610 --> 02:44:34,990
We had Bridget.

1377
02:44:36,390 --> 02:44:40,050
Hello, I'm calling because I have

1378
02:44:40,050 --> 02:44:43,790
heard about this vendor situation.

1379
02:44:44,770 --> 02:44:47,330
And you guys are all professionals.

1380
02:44:47,830 --> 02:44:51,570
I'm seeing you guys here in YouTube live.

1381
02:44:52,050 --> 02:44:54,150
And you guys are all professionals.

1382
02:44:54,150 --> 02:44:55,910
ustedes no están muy contentos

1383
02:44:55,910 --> 02:44:57,030
para saber que siguen

1384
02:44:57,030 --> 02:44:59,530
siendo presidentes de Nouveau Norgos.

1385
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:07,460
The organization is a big conflict of interest. And another thing, seeing my own people bring

1386
02:45:07,460 --> 02:45:17,080
down our own people is so sad to see. And seeing you guys as professionals, look the other

1387
02:45:17,080 --> 02:45:24,700
way to dilute those bullshit is ridiculous. We have all his cronies going around the city,

1388
02:45:24,700 --> 02:45:33,180
like Miss Andrea Polino harassing these people. We have Joanna Laborine that works for the JACC.

1389
02:45:33,400 --> 02:45:37,800
Of course, if there's vendors, she doesn't get her money. She's not happy. All these people are

1390
02:45:37,800 --> 02:45:42,920
not happy is because they have something to profit from it. And you guys need to stop looking the other

1391
02:45:42,920 --> 02:45:48,900
way and defend our people. And I'm seeing the police department here for a meeting. This is ridiculous.

1392
02:45:48,900 --> 02:45:57,080
We are defending our own people because little in the city of Southgate, I think these vendors come and make their money.

1393
02:45:57,540 --> 02:46:01,580
They have dreams like you and I have had dreams to build something in this country.

1394
02:46:01,880 --> 02:46:06,540
That's what it's about to come to this country and make something out of yourself.

1395
02:46:06,800 --> 02:46:08,940
And that's what they're doing and you're not letting them do that.

1396
02:46:09,100 --> 02:46:14,080
And that's ridiculous from a city that is run by brown people.

1397
02:46:18,220 --> 02:46:26,840
You guys don't go telling them nothing right because they paid their money to the city right they paid their dues. So you guys are happy with them, but not the street vendors.

1398
02:46:27,640 --> 02:46:39,490
Why don't you fix our streets? Why don't you care about that? Put the money where your mouth is at. Put the money right now in our street.

1399
02:46:39,490 --> 02:46:55,410
street how they look people are falling down hurting themselves and seeing the police department confront aren't my own people my own residents. This is ridiculous. You guys are not for us. You guys stay. Oh, we're for the people were for the people know you guys are for fattening your fucking pockets.

1400
02:46:55,410 --> 02:46:56,470
It's actually two guys are four.

1401
02:46:56,870 --> 02:46:57,930
You guys are all for that.

1402
02:46:58,150 --> 02:47:00,450
You guys are all for, give me, give me, give me.

1403
02:47:00,570 --> 02:47:02,250
But you guys don't give to the people.

1404
02:47:02,690 --> 02:47:05,610
You guys are all just, oh, here we are.

1405
02:47:05,890 --> 02:47:09,170
Here are her faces, but don't show it like our treasure.

1406
02:47:09,650 --> 02:47:12,370
He has no, he doesn't do nothing.

1407
02:47:12,550 --> 02:47:13,590
He's not even out of the meetings.

1408
02:47:14,470 --> 02:47:16,730
So you guys need to really check what you guys are doing

1409
02:47:16,730 --> 02:47:18,610
and the policies that are coming to the city.

1410
02:47:19,030 --> 02:47:20,130
Don't hurt the little people.

1411
02:47:20,530 --> 02:47:23,730
Hurt the people that really need to be hurt.

1412
02:47:23,730 --> 02:47:28,790
You guys need a takeout, you guys need a clean house in the city, and you guys need to

1413
02:47:28,790 --> 02:47:30,730
town start to make a decision.

1414
02:47:30,990 --> 02:47:33,930
Either be in the JCC or be in the city hall.

1415
02:47:34,250 --> 02:47:35,870
Pick one, but you can't be in both.

1416
02:47:36,030 --> 02:47:37,330
You can't have your take, I need it too.

1417
02:47:40,090 --> 02:47:40,830
Thank you.

1418
02:47:41,330 --> 02:47:41,970
Next caller.

1419
02:47:42,990 --> 02:47:45,210
We have a support stream vendor for.

1420
02:47:48,960 --> 02:47:49,540
Go ahead.

1421
02:47:50,100 --> 02:47:50,540
Hello.

1422
02:47:51,480 --> 02:47:52,420
Yes, go ahead.

1423
02:47:52,980 --> 02:47:53,200
Hi.

1424
02:47:53,480 --> 02:47:58,620
I want to say that I'm a student studying sociology and Latin American.

1425
02:47:58,620 --> 02:48:06,620
and let in next studies, and based on the observations that I've made during this meeting,

1426
02:48:07,640 --> 02:48:12,920
first of all, I've noticed that you're very unprepared when it comes to serving your community.

1427
02:48:14,740 --> 02:48:23,200
I've been in court meetings where they're able to translate for Spanish speakers at a much faster

1428
02:48:23,200 --> 02:48:31,460
and accurate rate than you do and a lot of you, although some of you might be Latino, that's what

1429
02:48:32,080 --> 02:48:39,340
we can even consider you. A lot of you guys are just white supremacists and it's very

1430
02:48:39,340 --> 02:48:48,980
shameful that you're against supporting street vendors because a lot of you want to be, you want

1431
02:48:48,980 --> 02:48:53,800
to beautify the city of Southgate, right? That's what you want to do. You want to get rid of the

1432
02:48:54,380 --> 02:49:01,240
street vendors, the Hispanic community in general, just getting rid of our culture, our traditions,

1433
02:49:02,900 --> 02:49:11,500
and it's kind of funny that you're doing it this way. In reality, you're making yourselves

1434
02:49:11,500 --> 02:49:18,680
look ghetto. Like it's very embarrassing to kind of tell people outside of

1435
02:49:18,680 --> 02:49:22,440
Los Angeles that you're from the city of Southgate knowing them well that you

1436
02:49:22,440 --> 02:49:28,080
guys are corrupt and you guys are just very irresponsible. It's just very

1437
02:49:28,080 --> 02:49:33,860
shameful. It's embarrassing. Like your goal is probably to beautify the city of

1438
02:49:33,860 --> 02:49:39,180
Southgate but you're just embarrassing yourself and it makes you like really really

1439
02:49:39,180 --> 02:49:49,460
bad. I currently live up north of California and it's just so embarrassing. I think you guys

1440
02:49:49,460 --> 02:49:50,940
are doing a really horrible job.

1441
02:49:53,930 --> 02:49:58,440
That's all I wanted to say. Thank you. Next caller.

1442
02:50:02,800 --> 02:50:06,780
We have Maria Castaneda. Go ahead, Ms. Castaneda.

1443
02:50:09,270 --> 02:50:32,890
Oh, everyone. As a 40-year resident of Southgate and local business owner, I'm here to state business owner's requirements to run a restaurant in the city of Southgate. In order to operate, we need to have current health permits, business license, fire department, telecount equipment permits. We pay rent access, liability insurance, utilities payroll, and many more.

1444
02:50:32,890 --> 02:50:38,630
We need to have running water, not only running water, but also hot water.

1445
02:50:39,430 --> 02:50:43,830
We also, all of our employees need to be certified as food handlers.

1446
02:50:44,210 --> 02:50:47,430
We need to have a fully handicapped access for everyone in the restaurant.

1447
02:50:48,170 --> 02:50:51,650
We require to fully have a fully operated restaurant.

1448
02:50:52,050 --> 02:50:54,490
Health Department inspections are buried, they're all in strict.

1449
02:50:58,960 --> 02:51:04,190
As a local resident business owner or Southgate, I've been severely affected.

1450
02:51:04,190 --> 02:51:10,430
affected by street vendors, taco vendors, who appears to strategically set up feet

1451
02:51:10,430 --> 02:51:15,090
away from our businesses. As a business owner, I would like to remind residents and

1452
02:51:15,090 --> 02:51:20,970
city council that we exist. We're here doing our best to run a legit business. We have,

1453
02:51:20,990 --> 02:51:26,730
as you can imagine, have to pay 900 but thousands of dollars in license fees insurance.

1454
02:51:29,370 --> 02:51:34,170
We pay

1455
02:51:34,170 --> 02:51:39,490
permits as local small business owners feel ignored and visible neglected or only here

1456
02:51:39,490 --> 02:51:45,630
trying very hard to do the right thing. Don't just think of business owners but also our employees

1457
02:51:45,630 --> 02:51:52,290
who have families to support. We live in the city, we shop in our city, who are also being affected

1458
02:51:52,290 --> 02:51:54,890
by this or all part of this community.

1459
02:51:57,240 --> 02:52:05,460
If you do some research you will find that most of our

1460
02:52:05,460 --> 02:52:12,280
a race issue, but it's more of a matter of public safety. I only ask for you guys to think and look

1461
02:52:12,280 --> 02:52:20,220
at the whole picture. Don't I understand and I'm off for working hard and making a living. We are

1462
02:52:20,220 --> 02:52:25,900
all immigrants, most of the people in Southgate. We work very hard, all of us. Not only the street vendors,

1463
02:52:26,160 --> 02:52:32,880
but all of the local residents. My employees have expenses to pay. We all try to do the right thing.

1464
02:52:32,880 --> 02:52:39,000
I am asking the City Council and local residents to think of us, to think and look and investigate

1465
02:52:39,000 --> 02:52:45,540
and research the whole picture. Not just one, but the whole picture of what's happening

1466
02:52:45,540 --> 02:52:52,420
in our city and how to keep our public and our citizens healthy. That's all we're looking

1467
02:52:52,420 --> 02:53:00,520
for as business owners. We work very hard to keep our public healthy. I appreciate your

1468
02:53:00,520 --> 02:53:01,400
to help your attention.

1469
02:53:01,760 --> 02:53:02,720
And thank you for your time.

1470
02:53:04,200 --> 02:53:05,360
Thank you, Ms. Kustaniya.

1471
02:53:05,840 --> 02:53:06,680
Next caller.

1472
02:53:09,170 --> 02:53:10,850
We have caller ending in 621.

1473
02:53:11,710 --> 02:53:12,810
621, go ahead.

1474
02:53:21,320 --> 02:53:22,800
Hi, I would like to play a recording

1475
02:53:22,800 --> 02:53:23,900
from our previous meeting

1476
02:53:23,900 --> 02:53:25,880
and my hope is that people actually listen

1477
02:53:25,880 --> 02:53:27,240
to the meeting recordings

1478
02:53:27,240 --> 02:53:29,280
and not the bull stuff they are being fed.

1479
02:53:30,100 --> 02:53:31,720
I also want to point out that

1480
02:53:32,400 --> 02:53:35,760
Mr. Valo does not own this next bar at the park.

1481
02:53:36,240 --> 02:53:37,640
It's run by all volunteers

1482
02:53:37,640 --> 02:53:40,020
Here's for the benefit of youth programs.

1483
02:53:41,280 --> 02:53:46,240
I'd also like to point out that no councilman with other wife

1484
02:53:46,240 --> 02:53:48,620
does not have councilors stated in the last meeting

1485
02:53:49,200 --> 02:53:53,040
and also like to point out that unlike other wives,

1486
02:53:53,540 --> 02:53:56,760
she has never gave her husband's campaign $7,000

1487
02:53:56,760 --> 02:54:00,360
of group money and never has she been kicked out

1488
02:54:00,360 --> 02:54:02,540
of three service clubs for lying.

1489
02:54:03,720 --> 02:54:06,100
With that said, let me play the recording.

1490
02:54:07,040 --> 02:54:12,880
I think I mentioned the last time I spoke to a vendor of flowers on Southern Avenue,

1491
02:54:13,380 --> 02:54:14,860
and I really felt bad for him.

1492
02:54:15,020 --> 02:54:23,020
He says he's there for $8.19 a.m., and he's going to get $1 or $4.30 a.m. but I'm really

1493
02:54:23,020 --> 02:54:23,560
selling the thing.

1494
02:54:24,800 --> 02:54:31,580
In another case, I saw about $20.30 a.m. and I found it that his story is that the city of

1495
02:54:31,580 --> 02:54:34,480
California has a name, a name, a name, a name, a name, a name, a name, a name, a name, a name

1496
02:54:34,480 --> 02:54:37,300
That's not $1 or 10 hours.

1497
02:54:37,500 --> 02:54:42,520
I mean, for OK, and only $20, it's not $7 or $15 an hour to me.

1498
02:54:42,860 --> 02:54:45,160
So for their protection as well as the whole thing.

1499
02:54:45,240 --> 02:54:46,880
So I want to look at the entire package.

1500
02:54:47,620 --> 02:54:50,500
In any case, you know, what I would admit at that,

1501
02:54:50,580 --> 02:54:51,940
I think I have covered enough.

1502
02:54:52,240 --> 02:54:54,460
I think there's one or make the last comment

1503
02:54:54,460 --> 02:54:59,080
because I understand how social media will turn this into

1504
02:54:59,080 --> 02:54:59,600
We'll get out of here.

1505
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:07,500
We're on genders and I got to tell you. You know, I don't say this. L.A., I excluding the

1506
02:55:07,500 --> 02:55:14,320
cal state to require not to be graduated, you do a thesis on type, you do when you're in

1507
02:55:14,320 --> 02:55:20,600
your master's degree. I'm currently a bit dissident on it. And you filmed well before,

1508
02:55:20,760 --> 02:55:27,040
this was back in 2019, and the story is that some of the people I interviewed for my

1509
02:55:27,040 --> 02:55:31,180
in their thesis, or sad, and heartbreaking.

1510
02:55:31,800 --> 02:55:34,020
I mean, ours that work and we get a few,

1511
02:55:34,040 --> 02:55:36,480
because they're undocumented, and they have rights.

1512
02:55:37,300 --> 02:55:40,020
And so I'm going to look at this in that level tonight.

1513
02:55:40,380 --> 02:55:43,280
I know those news are going to take only excerpts

1514
02:55:43,280 --> 02:55:44,440
of my comments tonight.

1515
02:55:44,940 --> 02:55:46,680
You heard that on the floor last night.

1516
02:55:46,700 --> 02:55:48,660
No, it's for the presentation as well.

1517
02:55:49,560 --> 02:55:50,920
Daddy said, thank you, Madam Mayor.

1518
02:55:55,460 --> 02:55:57,020
And the only reason we're

1519
02:55:59,190 --> 02:55:59,730
done, I'm sorry.

1520
02:55:59,730 --> 02:55:59,990
We

1521
02:56:09,620 --> 02:56:15,180
have one more caller community next caller community is paramount.

1522
02:56:20,590 --> 02:56:26,790
Hi. Hi. Can you guys hear me? Yes. Hi. My name is yes. Anya Maria.

1523
02:56:26,950 --> 02:56:35,990
And I'm an elected official for paramount unified school district. Our school district serves has the honor of serving.

1524
02:56:35,990 --> 02:56:47,830
which is a part of Southgate, and a few weekends ago I was there at an event whose mission was to support men's mental health and to bring awareness.

1525
02:56:48,890 --> 02:56:59,450
And Southgate is a beautiful community, but I'm concerned that we have, without due respect, we have a fellow teacher up there, we have a professor up there.

1526
02:56:59,450 --> 02:57:02,370
You can't speak both out of full size of your mouth.

1527
02:57:02,750 --> 02:57:06,550
You're hosting an event to support men's mental health,

1528
02:57:06,690 --> 02:57:09,190
and yet you're causing this policy,

1529
02:57:09,390 --> 02:57:11,070
this thing that you're pushing forward

1530
02:57:11,550 --> 02:57:13,390
is gonna cause stress on men,

1531
02:57:13,690 --> 02:57:16,810
the very community that you claim to serve.

1532
02:57:17,070 --> 02:57:20,730
So I ask you, as an elected official, as a teacher,

1533
02:57:21,830 --> 02:57:25,630
please table this item, find ways to further support vendors.

1534
02:57:26,310 --> 02:57:27,650
Come on guys, we're all teachers.

1535
02:57:27,930 --> 02:57:28,810
We're all from the community.

1536
02:57:28,810 --> 02:57:33,170
You're a professor, Al. You can do better. You can't go teaching students about

1537
02:57:33,690 --> 02:57:38,930
sorry political science and then do the complete opposite. I remember my political

1538
02:57:38,930 --> 02:57:42,890
science professors and they always instilled in us the value to do right

1539
02:57:43,670 --> 02:57:49,870
by our community. So your actions now don't match what I would hope a professor would do in his

1540
02:57:49,870 --> 02:57:51,650
community. Thank you very much.

1541
02:57:54,480 --> 02:57:57,900
We have no other speaker that we had previously. So at this

1542
02:57:57,900 --> 02:58:02,360
So I'm going to close the Zoom portion of it and bring it back to Council.

1543
02:58:03,080 --> 02:58:04,400
Actually, we bring it back to staff.

1544
02:58:04,740 --> 02:58:08,400
Thank you, Madam Mayor. And again, for the public's benefit,

1545
02:58:09,080 --> 02:58:15,680
we did give notice to those participating on Zoom that there was a cutoff.

1546
02:58:15,680 --> 02:58:17,820
So if anybody is still trying to get in,

1547
02:58:18,640 --> 02:58:23,800
again, understand that we did set a limit on this,

1548
02:58:23,800 --> 02:58:32,620
and we knew who was in line or in Q as you might expect is to who is there for participation.

1549
02:58:32,840 --> 02:58:38,280
So I do see people raising their hand trying to get in, but as the mayor has indicated, the Zoom

1550
02:58:38,280 --> 02:58:47,780
portion of public comment has ended. Madam Mayor of City Council, we have a number of questions.

1551
02:58:47,780 --> 02:59:01,480
I think we're posed and Jim has a couple of points that he wanted to answer or respond to. So if we could bring Mr. Eckert back on.

1552
02:59:02,200 --> 02:59:07,440
Before we do that, City Manager, Madam City Clerk, is there something you wanted to clarify?

1553
02:59:07,960 --> 02:59:12,260
Oh, I received one email and two anonymous ones if I can read them.

1554
02:59:12,260 --> 02:59:16,440
Yes, we're going to go ahead and read those into the record and then we will.

1555
02:59:16,600 --> 02:59:17,980
Yes, summarized.

1556
02:59:18,300 --> 02:59:18,600
Yes.

1557
02:59:19,100 --> 02:59:32,680
Ambition Menes is commenting that Mr. Guilfado is having is unfounded that he is being told that he's having war against street vendors out there.

1558
02:59:33,160 --> 02:59:39,380
He's an active member of our of our community.

1559
02:59:39,380 --> 02:59:53,900
and he fears for him, he has been nominated by the Youth Commission as once a, sorry guys,

1560
02:59:56,060 --> 02:59:59,640
Yeah, regards just.

1561
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:29,980
Street renders, what is being posted on social media is not what Gill stated. Gill has made comments as to the concerns being raised by local merchants and the residents about street vendors. These are the views and concerns of my community members and not necessarily those of your thought on. Now is, Mr. Bishop Mendez. I received an anonymous letter that states, first of all, let's please be clear that the ordinance is not an attack on street vendors. Guidelines must be enforced.

1562
03:00:29,980 --> 03:00:35,640
for the health and sanitation requirements along with business license requirements,

1563
03:00:36,020 --> 03:00:39,360
the state of California not allow free for all for street vending.

1564
03:00:39,840 --> 03:00:45,360
It only decriminalizes the violation, but as long as each city updates their ordinance,

1565
03:00:45,840 --> 03:00:50,140
vendors should follow the approved ordinance and obtain proper permits.

1566
03:00:50,520 --> 03:00:55,960
Everyone, either street vendors or store restaurant owners, are all trying to make ends meet.

1567
03:00:56,180 --> 03:00:58,100
It's not a personal attack on anyone.

1568
03:00:59,140 --> 03:01:28,080
of another one that states this letters regards enforcement street vendors has been brought to my attention that the enforcement of street vendors will be enforced by code enforcement department currently code enforcement does not have the training knowledge of the health and safety requirements to enforce to our knowledge responsibility follows upon business license department while not opposed to it currently we do not have the resources manpower in the law.

1569
03:01:30,920 --> 03:01:38,020
We would like to make counsel where are the requirements that would have to be met to take on that additional task.

1570
03:01:38,480 --> 03:01:41,740
Currently, it is enforced only by business and license.

1571
03:01:42,240 --> 03:01:46,740
I should say assigned to that department as they have a knowledge and training to properly enforce.

1572
03:01:47,180 --> 03:01:52,260
We are more willing to further discuss this matter in detail. That's it for me.

1573
03:01:55,180 --> 03:01:58,540
Thank you. Let's give it back to Mr. James.

1574
03:01:58,540 --> 03:02:08,530
If we could have Mr. Eckert back on as a panelist and can you hear me?

1575
03:02:08,990 --> 03:02:10,050
Yes, James.

1576
03:02:10,570 --> 03:02:11,250
Okay, perfect.

1577
03:02:11,890 --> 03:02:18,030
So there was obviously a lot of misinformation that was provided to the City Council by members of the audience.

1578
03:02:18,630 --> 03:02:26,610
Personal attacks, rhetoric, a lot of use of hot topic buttons in terms that seem designed to inflame the community.

1579
03:02:26,610 --> 03:02:33,350
But I wanted to get it back down to the ordinance itself and address at least one particular

1580
03:02:33,350 --> 03:02:39,050
issue that seems to be prevalent amongst a lot of the speakers, which is the imposition

1581
03:02:39,050 --> 03:02:40,330
of the health code requirements.

1582
03:02:41,450 --> 03:02:45,970
And it's important to note that the city is not adopting health code requirements.

1583
03:02:46,350 --> 03:02:48,970
The city is not modifying health code requirements.

1584
03:02:49,530 --> 03:02:54,090
There's nothing being proposed in the ordinance that's a modification of health code requirements.

1585
03:02:54,090 --> 03:03:00,350
So when there was discussion regarding the home kitchens or issues relating to

1586
03:03:00,350 --> 03:03:05,130
commissaries or things of that nature, those are things that are regulated by

1587
03:03:05,130 --> 03:03:09,970
the Department of Public Health of LA County. The only thing that the city would

1588
03:03:09,970 --> 03:03:15,910
be requiring is that anybody who is required to get a health department permit to

1589
03:03:15,910 --> 03:03:22,290
vent food would have to have that permit. And there's nothing the city can do to

1590
03:03:22,290 --> 03:03:30,090
alleviate or to alleviate the responsibility of any street vendor who is

1591
03:03:30,090 --> 03:03:34,630
vending food who is required to get a permit to not have to get that permit.

1592
03:03:34,770 --> 03:03:38,170
There's nothing we can do. That's a mandate of the state. It's a mandate of

1593
03:03:38,170 --> 03:03:43,230
the county health department and the city is not enforcing that issue. It's just that

1594
03:03:43,230 --> 03:03:48,270
the city cannot issue its own local permit to somebody who's required to have a

1595
03:03:48,270 --> 03:03:51,490
health permit unless that person in fact has the health permit.

1596
03:03:52,270 --> 03:03:57,110
And it seems like there was confusion about that or at least some misinformation that

1597
03:03:57,110 --> 03:04:01,010
was being provided that the city's out there enforcing the health code, the city's not

1598
03:04:01,010 --> 03:04:01,890
enforcing the health code.

1599
03:04:02,230 --> 03:04:03,850
That's up to the health department to do.

1600
03:04:04,490 --> 03:04:08,970
The city is merely stating that anybody who's required to have a health permit has to have

1601
03:04:08,970 --> 03:04:10,570
one in order to get the local permit.

1602
03:04:11,190 --> 03:04:15,150
And again, that's something that's mandated by state law, it's mandated by local county health

1603
03:04:15,150 --> 03:04:15,530
code.

1604
03:04:17,050 --> 03:04:22,230
And I wanted to avoid that confusion that it seems to be abounding with respect to members

1605
03:04:22,230 --> 03:04:22,850
of the public.

1606
03:04:23,670 --> 03:04:25,670
That was really the only issue I wanted to address.

1607
03:04:25,810 --> 03:04:28,650
I'm not going to address a lot of the other stuff that was discussed.

1608
03:04:29,250 --> 03:04:34,850
I will say to the one speaker who indicated that it would be nice if the ordinance was made

1609
03:04:34,850 --> 03:04:35,850
available to them.

1610
03:04:36,270 --> 03:04:40,210
The ordinance is my understanding was, in fact, published with the agenda, it was available

1611
03:04:40,210 --> 03:04:41,090
to everybody.

1612
03:04:41,570 --> 03:04:43,230
It sounds like some people have looked at it.

1613
03:04:43,230 --> 03:04:59,970
Some people may not have, but it was made available to everybody and with that again, I'm available to answer any questions that anybody may have met him here if I can ask him to a pine on there is a question by one of the speakers of what type.

1614
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:29,780
Permits need to be displayed by a street vendor, the health permit, the seller's permit, what is the code due to address the display of permits? So any permit, first of all, the code would require anybody who has a local permit to display that local permit. So that would be our local sidewalk vending permit or a business regulatory permit. And if they do, in fact, have a

1615
03:05:29,780 --> 03:05:34,380
health permit, the health code mandates that that be on display as well, so it'd be no different

1616
03:05:34,380 --> 03:05:40,280
than a restaurant that has to have the health permit out there on display as well as the retail

1617
03:05:40,280 --> 03:05:45,500
sellers permit. So those are all things that would have to be on display, two of which are already

1618
03:05:45,500 --> 03:05:50,160
mandated by state law and county law, and then the local permit would have to be on display

1619
03:05:50,160 --> 03:05:58,740
pursuant to our code as well. And I just want to add that in the code we are requiring anybody that

1620
03:05:58,740 --> 03:06:02,260
that is working that location of a license,

1621
03:06:02,700 --> 03:06:05,860
properly licensed, they will be given a picture ID

1622
03:06:06,940 --> 03:06:09,020
and they have to wear that all the time.

1623
03:06:09,700 --> 03:06:11,540
So we will know when we go out,

1624
03:06:11,540 --> 03:06:13,780
whether the person there is licensed,

1625
03:06:13,960 --> 03:06:16,880
there will be a picture ID with relevant information

1626
03:06:17,240 --> 03:06:17,840
off that.

1627
03:06:18,100 --> 03:06:20,920
So beyond just what Jim explained

1628
03:06:21,220 --> 03:06:24,200
of permits required by state and county code,

1629
03:06:24,780 --> 03:06:28,220
we are requiring that they wear a picture ID

1630
03:06:28,220 --> 03:06:35,320
that's issued by the city when they get their approval at that point so it'll be it's easier for us

1631
03:06:35,320 --> 03:06:44,280
to identify who has actually been permitted from this process. I do want to clear up a couple of

1632
03:06:44,280 --> 03:06:52,740
other things while I know there's a lot of frustration of one of the council members in their association

1633
03:06:52,740 --> 03:06:59,560
with a youth organization. We have two parks that have exclusive vending

1634
03:07:00,260 --> 03:07:05,560
concession. One is Southgate Park and one is Holiday Park. Southgate Park,

1635
03:07:05,860 --> 03:07:11,500
J-A, it has the exclusive concession and they've had that for decades.

1636
03:07:12,400 --> 03:07:19,820
The Holiday One is A-Y-S-O and they have it. So what this new code does provide?

1637
03:07:19,820 --> 03:07:30,140
Currently, for parks that have exclusive concession agreements, there is no ability for concessions to happen.

1638
03:07:31,040 --> 03:07:37,440
Under the new code, push a roaming vendors are going to be allowed.

1639
03:07:38,180 --> 03:07:45,080
As long as they come in, again, get the permit, provide a route for that and operate on the sidewalk.

1640
03:07:45,080 --> 03:07:53,060
What is still prohibited is a stationery sidewalk vendor from being operating in that standpoint.

1641
03:07:53,440 --> 03:07:58,940
So roaming sidewalk vendors are going to be allowed in all the parts.

1642
03:07:59,740 --> 03:08:07,740
And that is what has actually opened up more vending opportunities within all of our parks from that process.

1643
03:08:08,040 --> 03:08:13,400
So again, if they're properly permitted in license, they'll be able to do that process.

1644
03:08:13,400 --> 03:08:20,260
So, again, it's not just J-A, it's A-Y-S-O that has an exclusive

1645
03:08:20,260 --> 03:08:25,240
in session agreement with the city for Holiday Old Park from the time.

1646
03:08:25,760 --> 03:08:29,760
So, and those have been in place, my understanding for decades and decades,

1647
03:08:30,460 --> 03:08:37,160
from that, so not something that is new by any means from that standpoint, from that.

1648
03:08:38,680 --> 03:08:41,160
And I'm sorry, Mary, added one additional thing.

1649
03:08:42,020 --> 03:08:47,560
Okay. I just wanted to add there was a comment that was made regarding some of the requirements

1650
03:08:47,560 --> 03:08:54,580
for health department permits and asking for the city to make that easier. Unfortunately

1651
03:08:54,580 --> 03:08:58,820
the city doesn't have jurisdiction to make that process easier. This is something that

1652
03:08:58,820 --> 03:09:04,940
is regulated by both the state as well as the county. Senate Bill 972 which was passed at

1653
03:09:04,940 --> 03:09:09,320
the end of last year and took effect at the beginning of this year. In fact did make it easier

1654
03:09:09,320 --> 03:09:11,700
there for many types of sidewalk vendors,

1655
03:09:12,600 --> 03:09:15,980
where they felt that some of the requirements were outdated.

1656
03:09:17,020 --> 03:09:18,860
And so some of those requirements were removed.

1657
03:09:19,540 --> 03:09:22,640
It didn't remove it from all types of sidewalk vendors.

1658
03:09:23,180 --> 03:09:27,660
There are differentiations that the state and the county

1659
03:09:27,660 --> 03:09:30,000
have made with respect to the type of food

1660
03:09:30,000 --> 03:09:33,380
that is being vended, that is whether it is what they call

1661
03:09:33,380 --> 03:09:36,260
potentially hazardous or non-potentially hazardous

1662
03:09:36,260 --> 03:09:43,180
whether it has dairy, whether it requires temperature controls or time controls but all of those

1663
03:09:43,180 --> 03:09:48,620
requirements are set by the state and by the county and not by the city. And so it's not

1664
03:09:48,620 --> 03:09:54,340
something that the city actually has jurisdiction or the ability to control or to modify or to make

1665
03:09:54,340 --> 03:09:59,340
easier. It's just something that people have to comply with. They are different.

1666
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:30,600
The regulations, then what brick and mortar restaurants need to comply with? But again, there are requirements that both the state and or the county have determined are appropriate for health and safety of the community. And I just wanted to point out that that's not something that the city has jurisdiction over. And I would just finally add on the topic of J and AYSO, the all nonprofits. And so they're designed to serve their constituency,

1667
03:10:30,600 --> 03:10:35,100
and see which is youth sports activities from that.

1668
03:10:35,260 --> 03:10:39,400
But I do want to stress they are nonprofit organizations

1669
03:10:40,320 --> 03:10:43,160
and from that standpoint.

1670
03:10:43,640 --> 03:10:47,960
And so no preferential treatment

1671
03:10:47,960 --> 03:10:51,380
is being given to either one from that process

1672
03:10:51,760 --> 03:10:54,040
under this code by any means.

1673
03:10:54,040 --> 03:11:03,800
I would say also, and I want to reemphasize this, that Jim sort of went over.

1674
03:11:04,400 --> 03:11:10,400
So the restrictions that are in here are either based on health, safety, or welfare.

1675
03:11:11,560 --> 03:11:20,560
And as you can see, we have diligently tried to re-evaluate many of the elements that were

1676
03:11:20,560 --> 03:11:32,510
in the existing code, so on page, I've got to make sure it'll get to that page, where we have

1677
03:11:32,510 --> 03:11:41,470
an essence proposing the deletion of whole streets. So the current code says, for example,

1678
03:11:42,170 --> 03:11:48,330
firestone, from city limit to city limit, there's no street sidewalk bending permitted from that,

1679
03:11:53,070 --> 03:11:57,790
on the proposed ordinance that's in the staff report.

1680
03:11:58,630 --> 03:12:02,370
So you'll see Otis, for example, Ardmore,

1681
03:12:02,750 --> 03:12:05,090
a number of all the streets that are listed there,

1682
03:12:05,310 --> 03:12:07,950
we're saying delete that,

1683
03:12:08,250 --> 03:12:12,610
and instead rely on the distance requirements

1684
03:12:12,930 --> 03:12:14,170
that we have stated.

1685
03:12:14,470 --> 03:12:16,090
So as Jim indicated,

1686
03:12:16,090 --> 03:12:24,370
We're looking at ADA access, so you have to have a minimum of 36 inches from curb to wherever

1687
03:12:24,370 --> 03:12:31,510
the street vendor is going to occur for ADA access, Americans with Disabilities Act and pedestrian,

1688
03:12:31,710 --> 03:12:39,650
safe pedestrian movement from that. A lot of cities actually ask for 48 or 54 inches of clearance

1689
03:12:39,650 --> 03:12:46,070
between where the vendor is going to be and the curb of the sidewalk from that. So we are providing

1690
03:12:46,070 --> 03:12:53,110
the minimum standard under law of what you need for that access. So we're not trying to grab more.

1691
03:12:54,330 --> 03:13:03,230
We are also stating previously on page 20 of 26. We have deleted private property

1692
03:13:03,230 --> 03:13:08,830
mentioned about that. All private properties handled under different sections of the code already.

1693
03:13:08,830 --> 03:13:15,690
So, as Alia crossroads and the sale, we've deleted from this code.

1694
03:13:15,950 --> 03:13:20,770
So, again, we're relying on the limitations off that.

1695
03:13:21,030 --> 03:13:24,210
And on page 18 of 26, start those limitations.

1696
03:13:24,890 --> 03:13:33,830
I know it was mentioned that streetlights are, there's no individual requirement

1697
03:13:33,830 --> 03:13:35,990
for streetlight poll to be back from.

1698
03:13:35,990 --> 03:13:43,090
What some of those limitations are, for example, 25 feet from any street intersection.

1699
03:13:44,070 --> 03:13:53,230
And again, this is to help the vehicle traffic be not distracted by seeing crowds or people

1700
03:13:53,230 --> 03:13:59,650
pulling over to the side and trying to see what vending is going on and process from that.

1701
03:13:59,650 --> 03:14:06,890
25 feet from any traffic control device, including signals and traffic signs, or a stop sign.

1702
03:14:07,730 --> 03:14:12,790
And these are pretty common in any ways that you would probably see a red curve being

1703
03:14:13,370 --> 03:14:14,590
marked in a lot of areas.

1704
03:14:14,810 --> 03:14:22,630
Again, you don't want the visibility of a driver being obstructed or interfered, or them

1705
03:14:22,630 --> 03:14:25,610
losing their attention span to where they're going from.

1706
03:14:26,130 --> 03:14:27,750
10 feet from a fire height.

1707
03:14:27,750 --> 03:14:35,430
Again, that is just so that if fire has to go there or something, they not being interfered

1708
03:14:35,430 --> 03:14:43,710
and right now under our code, we have a lot of red curb from 10 to 15 feet on either side

1709
03:14:43,710 --> 03:14:47,550
of a fire hydrant from that on our streets off that.

1710
03:14:48,450 --> 03:14:55,490
Three feet from the edge of the curb, as I said, the 36 inches for ADA, 25 feet from a driveway.

1711
03:14:55,490 --> 03:14:59,750
And the purpose, again, from that is to allow safe ingress

1712
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:29,980
We address and egress by the people off the moving vehicles in through that. We don't want their visibility obstructed by crowds or carts or other things in their way from that process. We want 25 feet away from a marked crosswalk. Again, it's from a visibility and ability for the driver to stay focused on where they're going. 25 feet from a curb return of an unmarked

1713
03:15:29,980 --> 03:15:41,320
So again, that's sort of the intersection, right? You have to have a curb where street is coming back into play 45 feet from a bus bends bus shelter public transportation waiting area.

1714
03:15:41,760 --> 03:15:44,320
All buses are 45 feet by metro.

1715
03:15:44,760 --> 03:15:55,460
So we're just trying to say is we don't want that obstructed by people trying to get on to a bus or getting off of us from that process.

1716
03:15:56,660 --> 03:16:04,780
50 feet from any railroad crossing. Again, it's important that people pay attention to those safety

1717
03:16:04,780 --> 03:16:11,940
manage. Ten feet from an outdoor dining or patio area, dining area. Ten feet from an automatic

1718
03:16:11,940 --> 03:16:19,300
teller machine. Again, we want people to feel safe going to automatic teller machines and not being

1719
03:16:19,300 --> 03:16:22,100
and hidden by a crowd of people

1720
03:16:22,100 --> 03:16:24,740
and somebody doing something notorious to them.

1721
03:16:25,660 --> 03:16:29,020
25 feet from the entrance of an emergency exit,

1722
03:16:30,900 --> 03:16:33,760
45 feet from a construction or maintenance zone.

1723
03:16:34,000 --> 03:16:37,080
Again, that's gonna be a very living process

1724
03:16:37,080 --> 03:16:40,680
because construction zones come and go from that process.

1725
03:16:41,020 --> 03:16:42,680
So as people come in, we'll know that.

1726
03:16:44,680 --> 03:16:47,820
500 feet from certified farmers markets,

1727
03:16:47,820 --> 03:16:56,480
It's swap meets 500 feet from a school or swap meet zone and so forth.

1728
03:16:56,680 --> 03:17:03,240
So again, between pages 18 and 19 of 26 lists all of this, the restrictions.

1729
03:17:04,140 --> 03:17:11,160
And so when a person comes in, they're going to indicate, I want to go to this location.

1730
03:17:11,400 --> 03:17:15,000
And we will look to see if those locations meet.

1731
03:17:15,000 --> 03:17:20,300
There's nothing obstructing in this process of these safety elements preventing them.

1732
03:17:20,800 --> 03:17:33,320
And if that is, that place is designated as allowable, and then they go to the other requirements of a license, the permit, the health permit, the sellers permit, and so forth process.

1733
03:17:33,880 --> 03:17:42,360
But this does, again, one emphasize, this is lessening the restriction that currently exists today for sidewalk vending.

1734
03:17:42,360 --> 03:17:52,020
And they're designed to be safety concerns that we think as staff and legal counsel could

1735
03:17:52,020 --> 03:18:00,740
exist or do exist if we don't pay attention to those processes as we go through that.

1736
03:18:02,020 --> 03:18:08,280
So again, the objective by state law is we can't make this because somebody has particular

1737
03:18:08,280 --> 03:18:11,720
or feeling about street vending or economic competition.

1738
03:18:12,320 --> 03:18:13,980
So a street vendor could,

1739
03:18:14,160 --> 03:18:15,700
if it meets all those restrictions,

1740
03:18:16,080 --> 03:18:20,020
be right in front of a business and we have to allow it.

1741
03:18:20,120 --> 03:18:22,400
That's what the state law says from it.

1742
03:18:22,720 --> 03:18:25,520
So that's not related to health safety

1743
03:18:25,520 --> 03:18:26,480
or welfare concerns.

1744
03:18:27,300 --> 03:18:29,340
So again, I wanna keep emphasizing,

1745
03:18:29,660 --> 03:18:31,660
this is making it easier.

1746
03:18:32,260 --> 03:18:36,180
It doesn't make it mandatory for it to happen,

1747
03:18:36,340 --> 03:18:37,520
but it makes it easier for people

1748
03:18:37,520 --> 03:18:44,580
that follow the restrictions in the code and state law or county law to get a permit from this.

1749
03:18:45,120 --> 03:18:49,720
And I would state currently, even under the current code, we have three vendors that have met

1750
03:18:49,720 --> 03:18:55,600
the restrictions currently. So they've gotten the health permit, they've gotten their business license

1751
03:18:55,600 --> 03:19:02,860
permit, and they're in a location that met. So there are locations within the city that can be met

1752
03:19:02,860 --> 03:19:11,560
that from this process from that because we currently have three vendors that have been licensed once since 2019 from that.

1753
03:19:11,860 --> 03:19:15,380
So it can be done from that process.

1754
03:19:16,720 --> 03:19:17,360
I

1755
03:19:20,820 --> 03:19:35,220
think that was the elements that I wanted to indicate from that but I'd be happy or staff or Jim or the city attorney be happy to answer any other questions.

1756
03:19:35,220 --> 03:19:39,220
Council may have. Thank you so much, Chris. So before I bring it over to Council,

1757
03:19:39,820 --> 03:19:41,380
treasure, do you have any questions?

1758
03:19:44,490 --> 03:19:47,970
Well, no questions just a couple of comments I heard

1759
03:19:48,690 --> 03:19:55,390
that there were some concerns about the application fees and other costs associated with obtaining

1760
03:19:56,070 --> 03:19:59,970
permit. And just for the public and for

1761
03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:22,860
You know, the council, you know, the salary walk vendor licensing fee is $100 for their card. And the application fee is $176. So the total licensing fee is $276. And that's the application fee and also the site walk vendor fee.

1762
03:20:22,860 --> 03:20:27,820
the renewal fee per year is 211.

1763
03:20:28,220 --> 03:20:29,900
So those are the costs.

1764
03:20:30,240 --> 03:20:33,320
So if there was any type of relief

1765
03:20:33,940 --> 03:20:36,780
that would be proposed by council

1766
03:20:36,780 --> 03:20:41,180
to relieve that potential cost to enter initially,

1767
03:20:41,720 --> 03:20:45,720
the application fee is something that could be reviewed

1768
03:20:46,560 --> 03:20:48,980
potentially by council to look at,

1769
03:20:49,140 --> 03:20:51,580
whether the city could provide relief

1770
03:20:51,580 --> 03:20:58,120
through some type of program or other and those are some of the comments I wanted to make as

1771
03:20:58,120 --> 03:21:04,560
it relates to the cost to enter. Now, you know, just to for full transparency, there is also

1772
03:21:04,560 --> 03:21:11,000
insurance requirements from the vendors to provide the city as proof that they meet those

1773
03:21:11,000 --> 03:21:16,800
obligations as well. Thank you. Thank you, Madam City Clerk. I have no comments. Thank you.

1774
03:21:16,800 --> 03:21:23,540
Thank you bringing it back to council. Go ahead vice mayor. Yeah, so again, I think everybody's

1775
03:21:24,200 --> 03:21:27,440
comments are appreciated. I know it's a very

1776
03:21:28,800 --> 03:21:35,080
contentious thing. I've been hearing this in other cities as well, but the state is making this a

1777
03:21:35,080 --> 03:21:44,480
a requirement and it again, it started back in 2018 when Ricardo Lara

1778
03:21:44,480 --> 03:21:54,920
I wanted to make sure that people who need to have an opportunity to earn some money to do it.

1779
03:21:55,580 --> 03:22:01,580
And so he began with the Senate bill that opened the door for this.

1780
03:22:02,680 --> 03:22:08,120
Unfortunately, a lot of cities looked for ways to kind of sort of block that.

1781
03:22:09,240 --> 03:22:14,320
and that's where 972 came about to try to eliminate some of those things that we're causing it.

1782
03:22:15,320 --> 03:22:20,820
And again, yeah, I appreciate the fact that a, you know, a lot of people were concerned about

1783
03:22:20,820 --> 03:22:28,760
this over the last year or so, you know, we have been getting a lot of calls and concerns by

1784
03:22:30,420 --> 03:22:40,780
vendors, local vendors who are all Latino owned and have Latino employees. But again, you know,

1785
03:22:40,860 --> 03:22:49,520
as I told them, you know, you may not want this, but we have a state requirement to allow vendors

1786
03:22:49,520 --> 03:22:57,480
to operate. And, but what we hadn't done is updated our municipal code. We should have done this

1787
03:22:57,480 --> 03:23:04,340
a long time ago. And the only reason I brought it up at a recent meeting is not because there's

1788
03:23:04,340 --> 03:23:12,300
an attack on vendors, but because a lot of complaints that were coming in that why is it that I call

1789
03:23:12,300 --> 03:23:18,220
the police department or I call city staff about vendors, and they're not doing anything. Well, the

1790
03:23:18,220 --> 03:23:23,140
reason is that we weren't prepared to do that. And why? Because we haven't changed our municipal

1791
03:23:23,140 --> 03:23:44,940
So that's why this was brought in, but it should have been done a long time ago, and not at the request of any council member, but because it's a requirement. We've done this before when the state took away certain rights of local communities like garage conversions and stuff like that.

1792
03:23:44,940 --> 03:23:49,360
people objected to it here in Southgate, but unfortunately we had to change our

1793
03:23:49,360 --> 03:23:54,860
ordinance to allow certain things to go on because of the housing crisis and

1794
03:23:54,860 --> 03:23:59,460
again as much as people wanted to object to it, we had no choice and this is

1795
03:23:59,460 --> 03:24:05,180
one of those. This is a requirement that the state is making and thank you for

1796
03:24:05,180 --> 03:24:12,040
clearing up the fact that I do not own this night bar. I don't own it and I make

1797
03:24:12,040 --> 03:24:18,480
no money off of that no matter how many times I've explained that to people there is no money come

1798
03:24:18,480 --> 03:24:24,840
in my way from the snack bar all the money goes to the youth program and it helps numerous other

1799
03:24:24,840 --> 03:24:25,240
causes.

1800
03:24:28,320 --> 03:24:35,220
I have a couple of questions I know that there are some locations here in Southgate

1801
03:24:35,820 --> 03:24:38,520
that might be considered a prime location.

1802
03:24:39,880 --> 03:24:43,580
What is there in the ordinance that will allow,

1803
03:24:43,660 --> 03:24:45,980
let's say that you have vendor A,

1804
03:24:46,260 --> 03:24:49,800
who has a current permit in a certain location,

1805
03:24:50,020 --> 03:24:53,720
and then vendor B says,

1806
03:24:54,440 --> 03:24:56,640
you know, I like that location.

1807
03:24:57,480 --> 03:24:59,140
How do we deal with that?

1808
03:24:59,240 --> 03:24:59,780
How do we deal with that?

1809
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:04,180
As to which location or which person will get it.

1810
03:25:08,550 --> 03:25:09,650
Jim, are you still in line?

1811
03:25:13,760 --> 03:25:36,260
Yes, I am. Can you hear me? Yes. Okay. So the way that this would work is the permit is valid for one year. And so when someone comes in and applies, if they're going to be a stationary sidewalk vendor, they would actually apply and put down on the application, the specific location that they want to operate in. Once that's approved,

1812
03:25:36,260 --> 03:25:39,960
that would be their location for the one year period of time that they have on

1813
03:25:39,960 --> 03:25:44,980
their permit. Nobody else would be allowed to vent at that location or within 25

1814
03:25:44,980 --> 03:25:50,120
feet of that location. Upon the expiration of that, however, somebody else could

1815
03:25:50,120 --> 03:25:53,180
come in and apply and get that location from that person. They would not be

1816
03:25:53,180 --> 03:25:58,520
guaranteed the same location. Should they come back in and seek a subsequent what

1817
03:25:58,520 --> 03:26:03,040
you might call a renewal of the permit. But that would be, again, something that

1818
03:26:03,040 --> 03:26:06,080
they would have to put down on the application. We would verify that it

1819
03:26:06,080 --> 03:26:09,900
meets all of the requirements and if it gets approved that would be their location.

1820
03:26:11,820 --> 03:26:15,220
Thank you for that. There are some

1821
03:26:16,580 --> 03:26:23,520
distance things that I need to understand where those numbers come from. And the reason I say

1822
03:26:23,520 --> 03:26:30,940
that is this, when we say a certain distance from an intersection, not all intersections are built

1823
03:26:30,940 --> 03:26:39,380
the same. So as an example, if you have an intersection like Firestone and Atlantic and you compare

1824
03:26:39,380 --> 03:26:49,220
that to Southern and Alexander, you're not the same. Why can't we have a policy that allows

1825
03:26:50,300 --> 03:26:59,240
certain locations that won't have, you know, that much traffic with a smaller distance, 25 feet.

1826
03:26:59,240 --> 03:27:05,580
I just think that might be a little bit too much that's that's an opportunity for them to you know

1827
03:27:05,580 --> 03:27:09,900
Make some money there at a corner. So why is that number? Where did that come from?

1828
03:27:10,660 --> 03:27:19,500
So if I can just dress one thing is just that understand the purpose behind the distance requirement from intersections is not just an issue with respect to cars

1829
03:27:19,500 --> 03:27:24,880
Right, so number one vendors who are sidewalk vendors aren't allowed to sell to people in cars

1830
03:27:24,880 --> 03:27:31,600
That's something under law if you're vending on a sidewalk, you vent to people on the sidewalk, you don't vent to people in the cars.

1831
03:27:32,300 --> 03:27:45,320
So obviously one thing that we are trying to do is prevent the ease with which someone could just stand on the street corner, have people stop, and then have somebody start to sell to somebody who's in that vehicle because that's something that would be prohibited.

1832
03:27:45,320 --> 03:27:52,340
Number two, it is also there to allow for access for pedestrians to be able to use that particular intersection.

1833
03:27:52,960 --> 03:27:59,240
And if you have a sidewalk vendor that is too close to that intersection, again, we're not talking about just the cart, right?

1834
03:27:59,300 --> 03:28:14,280
We're talking about the entire operation that the person is going to have, which means all of their equipment, which means the patrons who are going to be lined up, who could potentially be blocking someone's use of that accessway, including ramps that someone may need to get up and down onto the sidewalk.

1835
03:28:14,280 --> 03:28:16,740
Again, we're talking about accessibility features.

1836
03:28:17,520 --> 03:28:22,280
So the distance that was proposed was the distance that was proposed to allow for continued

1837
03:28:22,280 --> 03:28:28,860
use of those intersections by pedestrians, as well as for vehicular and pedestrian safety.

1838
03:28:30,420 --> 03:28:37,080
Okay, but are we allowed to come up with something that's less of a distance?

1839
03:28:37,320 --> 03:28:37,860
Can we do that?

1840
03:28:38,300 --> 03:28:39,000
Yes, yes.

1841
03:28:39,160 --> 03:28:42,420
The City Council can determine that a different distance would be more appropriate.

1842
03:28:43,180 --> 03:28:45,180
Well, it would have to be universal.

1843
03:28:45,800 --> 03:28:51,400
Well, when I'm at universal, so that means we would have to say the same thing for a corner like firestone and Atlantic.

1844
03:28:51,760 --> 03:29:04,840
Yeah, because I don't know how you would differentiate for us to identify a intersection is different than another intersection because they all have pedestrians and vehicle traffic going through.

1845
03:29:04,840 --> 03:29:10,480
Some may have more vehicles or pedestrians going through it, but they all have that.

1846
03:29:11,240 --> 03:29:18,800
And again, from the standpoint of my recommendation is it's hard to differentiate and I think.

1847
03:29:20,020 --> 03:29:31,000
Substantiate that just because an intersection may have a thousand cars go through it in the day as opposed to an intersection and maybe only have 500 cars or pedestrians walk through it.

1848
03:29:31,900 --> 03:29:35,300
I would concur with the city manager on that.

1849
03:29:36,400 --> 03:29:42,940
Okay, but what if like we had a list of all the streets that we eliminated, like Otis and Tweety and stuff like that.

1850
03:29:43,380 --> 03:29:54,520
Can we take a look at some areas where we might want to lessen that and then maybe not tonight, but because I really think that's a little bit too restrictive.

1851
03:29:54,700 --> 03:29:56,700
I see a lot of flower vendors for example.

1852
03:29:56,700 --> 03:29:59,540
And those are opportunities for them.

1853
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:28,900
And I, you know, it just seems a little bit too much. But understand that irrespective of whether you change the distance requirements. So let's say you decided, okay, let's make it 10 feet from an intersection. Understand that irrespective of that, they're still going to have to provide the ADA accessibility issues. And they're still not going to be able to sell to somebody in a vehicle. The only time that they're going to be able to sell to someone who's in a vehicle is if the vehicle is lawfully parked.

1854
03:30:29,820 --> 03:30:33,980
So they can't sell to someone who just happens to stop at a red light and go, hey, let me

1855
03:30:33,980 --> 03:30:37,300
sell you some flowers or whatever else it is that they want to sell.

1856
03:30:37,520 --> 03:30:39,180
That is still going to be prohibited.

1857
03:30:39,700 --> 03:30:40,920
That can't be legalized.

1858
03:30:41,080 --> 03:30:49,020
So from that standpoint, I'm not sure that, you know, lessening it is going to open up

1859
03:30:49,020 --> 03:30:53,080
the possibilities that you're talking about, but yes, it is something that you can do.

1860
03:30:53,220 --> 03:30:57,100
I mean, so if you decided 10 feet universal is what we should do, that's something that

1861
03:30:57,100 --> 03:30:57,620
can be done.

1862
03:30:57,620 --> 03:31:01,500
Yeah, and we can always just change it as time goes by.

1863
03:31:01,660 --> 03:31:05,480
Here's another one that really is not in me the wrong way.

1864
03:31:06,160 --> 03:31:10,980
A lot of vendors, their biggest moneymaker would be around schools.

1865
03:31:12,200 --> 03:31:16,560
And this 500 feet just seems a little bit too much.

1866
03:31:16,880 --> 03:31:20,720
And, you know, when I had this conversation with the city manager early in the day,

1867
03:31:21,540 --> 03:31:24,980
you know, I pointed out how far 500 feet is that you're at home,

1868
03:31:24,980 --> 03:31:25,920
and played a dodged stadium.

1869
03:31:26,040 --> 03:31:28,060
What center field did that just need him, Joshua?

1870
03:31:28,840 --> 03:31:29,860
Or 34.

1871
03:31:30,760 --> 03:31:33,920
You're asking a person not to be near a school

1872
03:31:33,920 --> 03:31:36,800
from home plate into the parking lot.

1873
03:31:38,000 --> 03:31:41,040
That I don't get the issue there.

1874
03:31:41,200 --> 03:31:45,720
I really think that if people really wanna

1875
03:31:45,720 --> 03:31:47,760
help out the vendors around the schools,

1876
03:31:48,360 --> 03:31:51,300
I mean, I'll use D wants to come up with a separate policy,

1877
03:31:51,660 --> 03:31:54,180
but I just don't know about the school thing.

1878
03:31:54,180 --> 03:32:00,120
And so again, I think 500 feet is a little bit too much.

1879
03:32:00,740 --> 03:32:06,080
And again, I say maybe in front of the school, but if we want to do it, maybe 30 feet away

1880
03:32:06,080 --> 03:32:09,520
from the boundaries of the school, come up with something a little bit more reasonable,

1881
03:32:09,780 --> 03:32:14,500
because 500 feet, that's all I wanted to visualize that, right?

1882
03:32:14,900 --> 03:32:20,940
How home plate to center field, 430, and you're still putting in another 70 feet out?

1883
03:32:20,940 --> 03:32:32,820
That's 500 feet. Isn't it a school requirement? Is it an LUSD requiring? Well, LUSD doesn't control what happens outside of our boundaries, right?

1884
03:32:33,340 --> 03:32:42,660
So it may be, but I would answer currently the code does limit the 500 feet within that our own code.

1885
03:32:43,420 --> 03:32:47,700
And most cities have looking at this.

1886
03:32:47,700 --> 03:32:51,480
I did a survey, quick and dirty.

1887
03:32:53,300 --> 03:32:58,660
So I looked at Arcadia Patterson Sacramento, San Clemente, India, San Fernando, Modesto,

1888
03:32:59,040 --> 03:33:01,560
Harupa Valley, Norwalk, West Hollywood, and Cudding.

1889
03:33:02,120 --> 03:33:07,920
So most cities have several hundred feet from it, and I believe the rationale, like it

1890
03:33:07,920 --> 03:33:16,880
is for us, is during the peak times where you've got a lot of students moving and cars picking

1891
03:33:16,880 --> 03:33:35,960
and dropping off people. It's trying to pick up their safety concerns until they've walked far enough to disperse far enough from that process. So 500 feet is currently, but most cities have at least a couple of hundred feet if not more or 500 feet.

1892
03:33:35,960 --> 03:33:40,380
the city attorney was just showing me the city of Los Angeles.

1893
03:33:40,560 --> 03:33:41,460
What is that I hate's requirement?

1894
03:33:42,800 --> 03:33:45,640
So I'm looking at a list that's put out by L.A.

1895
03:33:45,760 --> 03:33:46,140
USDA.

1896
03:33:47,400 --> 03:33:48,780
Bell prohibits it.

1897
03:33:48,900 --> 03:33:50,000
Cutter Hay has 200.

1898
03:33:50,520 --> 03:33:51,660
Lawrence is down.

1899
03:33:52,380 --> 03:33:53,660
Down is 500.

1900
03:33:56,020 --> 03:34:00,900
Minja Ray has 1,000 San Fernando 500.

1901
03:34:01,500 --> 03:34:04,000
Topanga Universal City 1,000.

1902
03:34:04,000 --> 03:34:09,140
View Park, Walnut Park, West Athens, all 1,000,

1903
03:34:09,380 --> 03:34:13,660
Carson's at 1,500, Commerce is at 2,50,

1904
03:34:14,760 --> 03:34:16,220
East LA is at 1,000,

1905
03:34:17,120 --> 03:34:19,380
Authorities 500, so I could go on.

1906
03:34:19,600 --> 03:34:21,320
I understand. So again, looking again,

1907
03:34:22,540 --> 03:34:25,360
my mind works like a baseball right.

1908
03:34:25,740 --> 03:34:29,300
So even 90 feet, the distance between first and home

1909
03:34:29,300 --> 03:34:30,700
and first, that's a long way.

1910
03:34:31,840 --> 03:34:38,080
And that's already pretty far enough. I think I, you know, so we say a hundred feet. That's still a lot.

1911
03:34:38,520 --> 03:34:45,400
Two hundred, five hundred, fifteen hundred feet. That's in the different zip code almost, you know. That's a long ways.

1912
03:34:46,440 --> 03:34:59,980
So again, I just think that if the opportunity is really going to be given to a vendor and the area where they're going to make more money.

1913
03:35:18,320 --> 03:35:28,200
I'm going to encourage my colleagues to kind of support them. And not just at the school, but also we talked a little bit also about the like the farmer's market.

1914
03:35:28,860 --> 03:35:36,100
500 feet. Again, that's too far. I don't think it'll impact the farmer's market. It will allow

1915
03:35:36,100 --> 03:35:42,920
vendors to be maybe even maybe a hundred feet away. 500 feet just seems a little bit too much.

1916
03:35:43,140 --> 03:35:49,920
But again, I threw that out. If I may, Madam Mayor. Mr. Nabila, did you want to say something?

1917
03:35:51,440 --> 03:35:57,780
Thank you. I just wanted to maybe ask the question regarding that 500 feet

1918
03:35:58,200 --> 03:36:01,560
and Chris, a city manager.

1919
03:36:02,240 --> 03:36:07,440
Is that 500 feet only for stationary vending?

1920
03:36:09,120 --> 03:36:09,720
Yes.

1921
03:36:10,200 --> 03:36:14,420
So a moving cart can be right in front of the school

1922
03:36:14,420 --> 03:36:18,320
as long as it stops to sell to a student

1923
03:36:18,320 --> 03:36:19,380
that's coming out of school.

1924
03:36:19,920 --> 03:36:22,580
And then as long as when their sale is done

1925
03:36:22,580 --> 03:36:23,720
and there's nobody else buying,

1926
03:36:23,900 --> 03:36:25,680
they can continue to walk, right?

1927
03:36:25,680 --> 03:36:39,940
Right. Right. Again, with a roaming, they have to give us a pre-designated group if it is large as they want or small as they want, but we would be approving that route. But our our ordinance is is not restricting any area around a school for roaming.

1928
03:36:40,860 --> 03:36:54,980
So it is still feasible that a roaming street vendor could still sell within 500 feet, but I think the the real concern and I think I do agree with the 500 foot.

1929
03:36:56,220 --> 03:37:00,620
is for a stationary location, it creates an area.

1930
03:37:01,140 --> 03:37:03,480
I'm going to assume that it's one of the best selling

1931
03:37:03,480 --> 03:37:08,320
taco stands or food stands in the area,

1932
03:37:08,320 --> 03:37:11,280
and it has a line of 50, 60 people there.

1933
03:37:12,100 --> 03:37:14,320
Parents are trying to drive, pick up kids.

1934
03:37:15,020 --> 03:37:17,680
Some parents don't pick up their students right in front of

1935
03:37:17,680 --> 03:37:20,120
the school. They'll ask their students to drive down

1936
03:37:20,120 --> 03:37:21,460
or walk down a few blocks.

1937
03:37:21,960 --> 03:37:24,680
They meet them at the local restaurants around the area.

1938
03:37:24,680 --> 03:37:36,260
I'm just thinking that it creates a lot of congestion in a small space, especially during peak hours when we know that a lot of the vendors are out there trying to sell.

1939
03:37:37,000 --> 03:37:45,360
So I'm a little worrisome of reducing that and that's I think the recommendation made by city staff is kind of warranted because of that.

1940
03:37:48,440 --> 03:37:55,000
If I can clarify, the 500-foot distance is applicable to all sidewalk vendors, so roaming

1941
03:37:55,000 --> 03:37:55,680
and stationary.

1942
03:37:59,960 --> 03:38:00,860
I'm sorry, I didn't hear you.

1943
03:38:01,780 --> 03:38:07,520
The 500-foot distance is applicable to all sidewalk vendors, roaming and stationary.

1944
03:38:09,410 --> 03:38:12,190
At least that's the way that it's drafted in the current proposal.

1945
03:38:13,410 --> 03:38:13,670
Okay.

1946
03:38:20,200 --> 03:38:21,180
We're going to take that.

1947
03:38:21,200 --> 03:38:25,540
I will say that the reasons that were stated are still appropriate, right?

1948
03:38:25,540 --> 03:38:36,480
I mean, that is the reasons that we're talking about are typically, again, we don't want students trying to leave campus in order to, you know, get something from a vendor when they're supposed to be on campus.

1949
03:38:36,840 --> 03:38:47,520
We don't want there to be interference with the use of the sidewalks in the areas that parents and our guardians are utilizing in order to go and pick up their children or drop off their children.

1950
03:38:47,520 --> 03:38:55,800
So the applicability of the 500 foot distance is obviously only applicable during the hours that people would be utilizing the school.

1951
03:39:02,300 --> 03:39:14,220
My question is, have we identified areas where we can have stationary street vendors?

1952
03:39:17,030 --> 03:39:29,350
I don't think that's allowed, that we can limit the, like, just like I said, doesn't it have to, I'm asking him because I want to know, and if they're the ones who need to identify the areas.

1953
03:39:31,410 --> 03:39:40,690
So I want to make sure that I want to make sure I understand the question, is the question, have we gone out to identify how many places within the city someone could actually vent?

1954
03:39:41,940 --> 03:39:45,880
or are you asking, oh, to my knowledge.

1955
03:39:46,340 --> 03:39:48,660
No, listen to one question.

1956
03:39:48,920 --> 03:39:56,500
Have we identified areas where we can have stationary

1957
03:39:56,500 --> 03:39:57,760
there are three benders.

1958
03:39:58,940 --> 03:39:59,900
No, we have an idea.

1959
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:28,680
We've identified it. We've imposed or what is being proposed are the distance requirements. Ultimately, when someone comes in, they will make an application for a specific location. And we will verify that it meets those requirements at the time, but we have not gone through to my knowledge and audited the city to find out, you know, all the locations where someone could potentially do it. And I would just add, we cannot limit to certain areas. Correct.

1960
03:40:28,680 --> 03:40:50,720
Correct. From that standpoint. Right, but I think one of the, I think it's a good point. Councilmember Navidad is that maybe to alleviate that process, the city can identify the areas and locations and streets and actually provide a list to the applicants and say, here are the available areas.

1961
03:40:50,720 --> 03:40:53,600
this is where we've already identified where the ADA

1962
03:40:53,600 --> 03:40:55,460
approval limit of 36 inches,

1963
03:40:55,880 --> 03:40:59,580
even with a cart at your size would fit,

1964
03:41:00,180 --> 03:41:01,860
and kind of streamline the process.

1965
03:41:02,040 --> 03:41:04,200
I think one of the concerns that we heard today

1966
03:41:04,200 --> 03:41:06,800
and I think that we'll continue to hear is that

1967
03:41:06,800 --> 03:41:09,320
there's every process becomes an obstacle

1968
03:41:09,320 --> 03:41:11,220
for this re-vendor to be able to apply,

1969
03:41:11,780 --> 03:41:15,320
where they're waiting on a evaluation of a site

1970
03:41:15,320 --> 03:41:16,280
to see if it's approved.

1971
03:41:16,780 --> 03:41:19,100
If we can do that proactively

1972
03:41:19,100 --> 03:41:27,600
And identify those locations, you know, that's I think a benefit for both and we have heard that and and we depending on what happens tonight.

1973
03:41:28,120 --> 03:41:31,740
We are preparing a brochure how to get license.

1974
03:41:31,740 --> 03:41:32,320
Okay.

1975
03:41:33,160 --> 03:41:44,920
From that and so we've already started outlining something, but we wanted to wait until we know what the rules are.

1976
03:41:44,920 --> 03:42:00,820
before we finish that. One of my other questions and it's regarding the fee. The fee it's the license and for the fingerprints and all that. Can we make it all inclusive?

1977
03:42:00,820 --> 03:42:09,640
because I think, I mean, just having fees for this and that, and I mean, I think it's

1978
03:42:09,640 --> 03:42:16,360
gonna add up on them, so it would just can make a fee that it's so inclusive. I mean,

1979
03:42:16,480 --> 03:42:18,620
I think that's one way of helping them out.

1980
03:42:19,220 --> 03:42:24,280
Just to let you know, the reason why typically fingerprinting fees are kept separately is because

1981
03:42:24,280 --> 03:42:29,500
those are modified by the state and not by the local jurisdictions. And so we typically

1982
03:42:29,500 --> 03:42:35,040
we just say the additional cost of the fingerprinting, whatever that is, but that fee is typically

1983
03:42:35,040 --> 03:42:41,300
set by the state, not by the local jurisdiction. We would be able to set the permit fee, but if the

1984
03:42:41,300 --> 03:42:49,240
state increased the fingerprinting fee, then we would have to then go back and modify hours. Whereas

1985
03:42:49,240 --> 03:42:54,120
if all we do is we set the permit fee, and then you have to pay whatever the fee is that's set by

1986
03:42:54,120 --> 03:42:59,320
state for purpose of the fingerprinting, that can automatically adjust when the state adjusts it.

1987
03:43:00,200 --> 03:43:07,800
So there's a couple of ways to handle if the intent is for that. So if you wanted, you could roll

1988
03:43:07,800 --> 03:43:18,220
the fingerprint under the permit fee, the 176, and just realize that if the state increases their

1989
03:43:19,040 --> 03:43:25,880
be that it just erodes what we're covering internally from that or you could reduce the

1990
03:43:28,760 --> 03:43:35,500
176 to whatever level you want, but again realize that you're in essence subsidizing, which

1991
03:43:35,500 --> 03:43:43,040
I'm not saying is bad or good, but you are subsidizing the cost of processing the process

1992
03:43:43,040 --> 03:43:43,960
from that standpoint.

1993
03:43:43,960 --> 03:43:51,740
So you can approach it in a way. You can either make it inclusive or reduce another fee to handle if that's the intent of the council.

1994
03:43:52,420 --> 03:44:07,480
Again, you know, that means councilman, I think you bring up a good point where again, it feels like every step that they have to apply with becomes another obstacle for the stream vendor to be able to receive their permit.

1995
03:44:07,480 --> 03:44:10,820
And if we can, at any way, streamline the process.

1996
03:44:10,820 --> 03:44:13,160
And I think that's one of the approaches that we can do

1997
03:44:13,160 --> 03:44:17,560
is identify things like this.

1998
03:44:17,840 --> 03:44:21,060
Like we're, all right, they're going to get their permit.

1999
03:44:21,280 --> 03:44:22,920
They're going to get their business license.

2000
03:44:23,480 --> 03:44:25,460
And now we're asking them, they're going to have to pay

2001
03:44:25,460 --> 03:44:28,120
additional fee to go do a fingerprints, right?

2002
03:44:28,500 --> 03:44:31,740
If it can all be inclusive, I mean, even if we don't raise it,

2003
03:44:32,940 --> 03:44:33,540
that's fine.

2004
03:44:33,540 --> 03:44:38,880
I think it's feasible for us to not have to raise it to increase it for that.

2005
03:44:39,540 --> 03:44:43,720
But make it a single location where they pay everything.

2006
03:44:44,360 --> 03:44:45,580
It's streamlined to process.

2007
03:44:45,780 --> 03:44:47,080
Here's everything you have to do.

2008
03:44:47,880 --> 03:44:49,480
Here's what you will have your fee.

2009
03:44:50,040 --> 03:44:54,300
And then here's your appointment for your fingerprints at whatever location.

2010
03:44:55,300 --> 03:44:59,880
I think that's methods that we can do to really streamline this process again.

2011
03:45:00,370 --> 03:45:29,830
Thank you, council member Rios. Thank you Madam Mayor. Well, I have mixed feelings about all this. I didn't anticipate. I anticipate some public comment, but not as not to the extent that it was kind of disruptive and kind of, you know, put this put us in this situation predicament. We're in today, but I know I'm talking to some of them. I know that some of them wonder why we had a special meeting. Why didn't we have more

2012
03:45:29,830 --> 03:45:37,530
more community input, more workshop or to inform the public more a little bit about the

2013
03:45:37,530 --> 03:45:43,210
ordinance. And I think because I was I looked at it, it is not a simple written ordinance.

2014
03:45:43,430 --> 03:45:47,750
It's, you know, you almost have to be an attorney to interpret it. So I think that there are

2015
03:45:47,750 --> 03:45:55,710
some validity there in terms of I'm concerned about some of the public comment, not all the public

2016
03:45:55,710 --> 03:46:00,830
comment was heard. I mean, there was some was limited. I mean, we didn't hear from everybody,

2017
03:46:00,830 --> 03:46:05,610
some people were intimidated. And so we didn't really get it for here. And I know we cut some

2018
03:46:05,610 --> 03:46:07,630
of the Zoom audience, so I'm concerned about that.

2019
03:46:09,750 --> 03:46:13,970
So let's see, I'm concerned, would you just

2020
03:46:13,970 --> 03:46:20,650
mention some of the restrictions that the regulation is, and I know that some of my council colleagues

2021
03:46:20,650 --> 03:46:28,530
or mentioning it that you know the 500 I mean when you start breaking it down it does now I

2022
03:46:28,530 --> 03:46:34,730
can see some of the perception of some of the folks that were here contesting the ordinance that

2023
03:46:34,730 --> 03:46:40,330
it is too regulatory that we haven't really thought it through in terms of as we're think as we're

2024
03:46:40,330 --> 03:46:47,490
discussing it here and you know the insurance I don't even know what first time I really hear about

2025
03:46:47,490 --> 03:46:55,710
insurance, so what does that mean? What's the cost? I would like first to have what the policy was

2026
03:46:56,250 --> 03:47:01,170
and then now what we're proposing kind of breaking it down in the so people can understand.

2027
03:47:01,670 --> 03:47:07,070
I think that would have helped. I think we got ahead of us enough of the public on this issue to try

2028
03:47:07,070 --> 03:47:13,170
to remedy the situation, but then I think the public's just coming on. This issue is still going to be very

2029
03:47:15,210 --> 03:47:21,070
very eminent in the community and still going to be there. I think we get to realize that.

2030
03:47:22,790 --> 03:47:33,290
And so, they mention a possible litigation against the city that was mentioned. And so,

2031
03:47:34,370 --> 03:47:35,870
I have a number of concerns.

2032
03:47:38,650 --> 03:47:42,650
Again, not all the people have participated on this one.

2033
03:47:43,730 --> 03:48:03,730
Maybe we should have had more a forum to discuss this a little bit so the community and share the ordinance a little bit more. I think that because right now you have the perception that we're trying to pass this policy quickly and just move on from this issue and that I have those concerns.

2034
03:48:03,730 --> 03:48:04,130
And so,

2035
03:48:06,910 --> 03:48:08,650
you know, I think we're doing the right thing,

2036
03:48:08,710 --> 03:48:11,690
but I think we got ahead of us of the public a little bit on this one.

2037
03:48:12,130 --> 03:48:14,670
But that's my concerns, at least right now.

2038
03:48:15,910 --> 03:48:17,490
Thank you, Councilmember Rios.

2039
03:48:18,710 --> 03:48:22,650
I did bring something to your attention, Chris, before we started.

2040
03:48:23,510 --> 03:48:26,590
And it was mentioned by some of the audience

2041
03:48:26,590 --> 03:48:27,970
that was here in Council chambers.

2042
03:48:28,470 --> 03:48:32,570
In regards to the administrative fee on Section 11 on page 21.

2043
03:48:32,570 --> 03:48:39,550
and Section 12, versus an administrative fee of $1,000 for the fourth and each subsequent

2044
03:48:39,550 --> 03:48:48,770
violation. Again, this is in regards to violations, but then on Section 12, it says an administrative

2045
03:48:48,770 --> 03:48:56,790
fee of $500 for the fourth and each subsequent violation and revocation or suspension of the

2046
03:48:56,790 --> 03:49:02,630
permit and license. So if we can get a clarification on that, because again, once there's a thousand,

2047
03:49:03,250 --> 03:49:07,330
the other one says 500 with the possible revocation of the license.

2048
03:49:09,670 --> 03:49:13,990
If I can just get clarification on that, because I know that it was mentioned that a thousand

2049
03:49:13,990 --> 03:49:19,850
is a huge amount of money, specifically for the street vendors that are out there that are barely

2050
03:49:19,850 --> 03:49:20,370
making it.

2051
03:49:23,120 --> 03:49:28,120
And a mayor, it's a different code violation that is at issue here. I'll ask Jim if he

2052
03:49:28,120 --> 03:49:34,700
in comment on that. I looked at that as well and I did see that the $1,000 violation is for

2053
03:49:34,700 --> 03:49:43,540
one section of the code. 500 is for a different section of the code. Jim, are you still there?

2054
03:49:51,040 --> 03:49:56,660
Yes, I'm still here. Sorry. I just had this muted. So city attorney is correct. These are for

2055
03:49:56,660 --> 03:49:59,700
different provisions and I want to clarify something this is not an administrative

2056
03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:29,880
Fe. This is an administrative fine. And we're actually not proposing a change in the administrative fine. There's no increase in the administrative fine. What we've done is we've removed language from that particular portion, but we haven't, we're not recommending an increase in the fine. This is a fine that's already been imposed and set by the city council when it adopted this ordinance back in 2018. What we removed with some other language, but not with respect to increasing

2057
03:50:29,880 --> 03:50:37,880
of the fine. So just so the Council is aware, currently under the City Code, a vendor who

2058
03:50:37,880 --> 03:50:45,900
is actually issued a citation for vending without a valid permit would face a $250 fine for first

2059
03:50:45,900 --> 03:50:55,500
violation, a $500 fine for second violation, and a $1,000 fine for third violation, and a $1,000 fine

2060
03:50:55,500 --> 03:51:02,040
for a fourth violation as well as the revocation of a permit. And that's for someone who is operating

2061
03:51:02,040 --> 03:51:09,120
without a permit. The other section is for somebody who actually has a permit and who violates a

2062
03:51:09,120 --> 03:51:16,380
condition of the permit. And the current fines for that are 100 for first, 200 for a second, 500

2063
03:51:16,380 --> 03:51:24,280
for a third, and then 500 for a fourth as well as other penalties. So the proposed changes or the

2064
03:51:24,280 --> 03:51:27,120
proposed language that's discussed under Section 11.

2065
03:51:27,460 --> 03:51:33,700
That is keeping the exact same fine as it currently stands, we're not increasing that,

2066
03:51:33,920 --> 03:51:38,500
but that $1,000 fine is for somebody who is operating without a permit, who has been

2067
03:51:38,500 --> 03:51:44,560
cited on at least four separate occasions during a 12 month period of time.

2068
03:51:45,260 --> 03:51:51,460
Section 12 discusses a fine that would be imposed at $500, and that's the someone who actually

2069
03:51:51,460 --> 03:51:57,940
has a permit but continues to violate conditions of the permit and has done so on at least four

2070
03:51:57,940 --> 03:52:03,260
separate occasions in a 12-month period of time. So this is not what the first fine amount

2071
03:52:03,260 --> 03:52:05,520
would be for either type of violation.

2072
03:52:07,910 --> 03:52:09,170
Does that answer the question?

2073
03:52:09,810 --> 03:52:12,090
Yes, it does. It clarifies it.

2074
03:52:12,750 --> 03:52:13,610
Thank you.

2075
03:52:13,610 --> 03:52:17,010
All right. This time, what are the wishes of council?

2076
03:52:17,150 --> 03:52:24,550
One quick thing I was informed that the insurance policy may

2077
03:52:24,550 --> 03:52:28,450
reign somewhere between 50 and 125. Is that correct?

2078
03:52:29,930 --> 03:52:34,010
Are you talking about the actual cost of somebody obtaining the insurance?

2079
03:52:35,670 --> 03:52:38,710
I'm sorry, the question was not for you. It was for sorry.

2080
03:52:39,170 --> 03:52:39,790
That's okay.

2081
03:52:41,570 --> 03:52:54,730
This is not based on food lending. This is based on a different business, which is a consulting business for an engineering firm or a planning firm. And yes, it does range from $50 a month and up for a million dollars.

2082
03:52:54,730 --> 03:52:54,830
Yes.

2083
03:52:56,190 --> 03:53:01,970
Well, I can answer the question because Councilmember Burone asked that before we got in here.

2084
03:53:02,130 --> 03:53:08,890
So I did have a Thurmond Green on risk manager reach out to ICRMA and independent cities

2085
03:53:08,890 --> 03:53:12,590
risk management association which is our pool company.

2086
03:53:13,690 --> 03:53:21,890
First of all, they indicated that all 14 of their cities that are part of the pool have some

2087
03:53:21,890 --> 03:53:24,230
sort of insurance requirement from that.

2088
03:53:25,110 --> 03:53:27,490
And two, they said, they didn't,

2089
03:53:27,570 --> 03:53:29,650
because it was being asked late in the afternoon,

2090
03:53:29,810 --> 03:53:31,450
they didn't have a complete list of that.

2091
03:53:31,670 --> 03:53:36,650
They, Bommé's indicated that most of his recollection

2092
03:53:37,750 --> 03:53:40,370
is most have at least a million dollars

2093
03:53:40,370 --> 03:53:45,670
from that process for insurance requirements.

2094
03:53:46,050 --> 03:53:48,650
And that's the same insurance requirement

2095
03:53:48,650 --> 03:53:51,950
that we have for, in essence, any encroachment permit.

2096
03:53:52,270 --> 03:53:54,990
So if you had a business that maybe had an awning

2097
03:53:54,990 --> 03:53:59,210
hanging over a sidewalk, they would have to get an encroachment permit

2098
03:53:59,210 --> 03:54:01,650
because if that fell down in the public right away,

2099
03:54:01,830 --> 03:54:04,950
we want to make sure it's the same level of requirement

2100
03:54:04,950 --> 03:54:09,030
that an awning or some other type of encroachment

2101
03:54:09,030 --> 03:54:11,930
into the public right away that we require of anybody,

2102
03:54:12,110 --> 03:54:13,750
regardless of whether they're street vending

2103
03:54:13,750 --> 03:54:17,210
or having something from that process.

2104
03:54:18,440 --> 03:54:23,830
I did reach out, and from my survey I was doing this afternoon, so I will give you this.

2105
03:54:25,520 --> 03:54:27,770
Arcadia has a $500,000 level.

2106
03:54:28,490 --> 03:54:30,090
Haderson has $500,000.

2107
03:54:30,250 --> 03:54:31,710
Sacramento, a million.

2108
03:54:32,870 --> 03:54:34,630
San Clemente, $500,000.

2109
03:54:35,270 --> 03:54:41,470
Indio and Modesto, both say in their code that it's set by the risk manager,

2110
03:54:41,470 --> 03:54:48,550
which in my lingo tells me it's dependent on what the risk pool requires as that

2111
03:54:48,550 --> 03:54:52,810
because that may be adjusted from year to year depending on what the risk pool

2112
03:54:52,810 --> 03:54:58,390
insurance requirements are. Sam Fernando was a million, a group of

2113
03:54:58,390 --> 03:54:59,250
a million.

2114
03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:25,120
Norwalk, a million, west hollywood, a million, and cut hay was 200,000. And I would also add that this is not a change. One million dollar coverage is what we currently require under the code. So this is not a new number that we're throwing out. We're not seeking to increase it. It's the same number that currently exists under the code. And then Thurman just added in his email to me.

2115
03:55:25,120 --> 03:55:31,900
late is that he thought it would be somewhere about based off of what I assume

2116
03:55:31,900 --> 03:55:37,220
Ray told him is about $1500 annually for a million dollar insurance on

2117
03:55:38,900 --> 03:55:45,040
$1500 and I would say we have three vendors that are providing right now. We

2118
03:55:45,040 --> 03:55:50,080
have three licensed vendors and that's what they're doing. I just again give you

2119
03:55:50,080 --> 03:55:58,000
that information is what is out there being proposed by other entities plus with our own ICRMA

2120
03:55:58,700 --> 03:56:04,520
pool is recommending from that standpoint and is what Jim indicated. It's not a change from

2121
03:56:04,520 --> 03:56:14,580
what we currently plan. Madam Mayor if I may just add one last thing. I just wanted to really make

2122
03:56:14,580 --> 03:56:20,760
a comment regarding having this meeting as a standalone meeting. And I'm very appreciative

2123
03:56:20,760 --> 03:56:27,060
of the staff to have dedicated that much time and effort to have a standalone meeting for this

2124
03:56:27,060 --> 03:56:32,980
because the public does deserve the opportunity to speak and not feel rushed that we have other

2125
03:56:32,980 --> 03:56:39,960
items on an agenda. This is a topic that I knew was going to be, you know, one that needed time.

2126
03:56:39,960 --> 03:56:49,820
So to have a special meeting to have its own meeting to address it I think was the right decision by our city staff and I was very appreciative that that took place.

2127
03:56:50,800 --> 03:57:02,060
I'm very saddened that we had an environment here where a lot of people did not feel safe and or be able to speak what they wanted to say.

2128
03:57:03,000 --> 03:57:07,740
We've always preached and I think everybody here on Council has done it in the past to

2129
03:57:07,740 --> 03:57:13,720
remind, you know, the residents, this chamber is your home and you should feel safe to

2130
03:57:13,720 --> 03:57:20,900
speak here and feel that you can, you know, address the Council in a way that, you know,

2131
03:57:20,940 --> 03:57:26,640
you'll be heard and that you wouldn't be mocked or confronted based on what you're saying.

2132
03:57:26,640 --> 03:57:53,900
So again, I just wanted to point that out. I know that, you know, Councilman Rios made a comment saying that, you know, he felt that this was kind of rush. I want to just really point out that, you know, this agenda was released a lot earlier than most agendas are and they were, you know, given to us in a way for us to review to ask our questions and to be informed of what it was.

2133
03:57:53,900 --> 03:57:58,660
and really to understand what the requests that was being made to us.

2134
03:57:58,860 --> 03:58:01,880
And I'm very appreciative of the time that was taken for this.

2135
03:58:02,200 --> 03:58:03,820
And I want to just thank the staff for that.

2136
03:58:04,780 --> 03:58:05,820
May I comment on them here?

2137
03:58:05,920 --> 03:58:06,180
Go ahead.

2138
03:58:06,460 --> 03:58:09,080
Yeah, I don't know if this would be with the council member, my colleague.

2139
03:58:09,460 --> 03:58:14,420
But the public hasn't been having the same opportunity that we've had.

2140
03:58:15,480 --> 03:58:17,800
I mean, and that's that was my concern.

2141
03:58:18,060 --> 03:58:19,960
I don't think the whole public knows.

2142
03:58:19,960 --> 03:58:23,060
So as we're finding out all the news since today,

2143
03:58:24,220 --> 03:58:25,760
we're all learning about this.

2144
03:58:25,860 --> 03:58:26,980
I'm learning about this right here.

2145
03:58:27,080 --> 03:58:28,940
And I said that, sit on the diocese.

2146
03:58:29,540 --> 03:58:31,980
So I hear what you're saying, but again,

2147
03:58:33,160 --> 03:58:36,500
I think all of us want to help support the vendors.

2148
03:58:36,500 --> 03:58:40,300
I think that we all believe in the interprenuous spirit

2149
03:58:40,300 --> 03:58:41,760
here in the United States.

2150
03:58:42,080 --> 03:58:44,280
And it's everywhere in the world.

2151
03:58:44,560 --> 03:58:46,940
I hear that bending takes place.

2152
03:58:46,940 --> 03:58:54,360
every major city there's bending going on so it's not new concept and I think what the people are

2153
03:58:54,360 --> 03:59:00,620
trying to do is right now it's hard times and I think what these folks are trying to do is just

2154
03:59:00,620 --> 03:59:09,660
provide for the families and so yes you're right we have ourselves been informed but I don't think

2155
03:59:09,660 --> 03:59:14,500
the general public as and so that's and

2156
03:59:16,550 --> 03:59:21,890
and I do feel that in a way we it seems like and these

2157
03:59:21,890 --> 03:59:28,070
comments were coming from them punitive that is not and we didn't do much to kind of look at the

2158
03:59:28,070 --> 03:59:33,890
other side I think I mean from the vendor's point of view I think that and I know we're not supposed

2159
03:59:33,890 --> 03:59:39,480
to do that but I also think think about our brick and mortar I do think about them even though we're

2160
03:59:39,480 --> 03:59:43,420
I'm not supposed to discuss it in that way, but that's a reality.

2161
03:59:43,780 --> 03:59:45,240
It does impact those businesses.

2162
03:59:45,720 --> 03:59:53,020
So there's a lot of layers to this, it's not a simple issue, so that's all I'm saying.

2163
03:59:54,000 --> 03:59:56,880
Madam Mayor, thank you.

2164
03:59:56,880 --> 03:59:59,080
and now just for the um

2165
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:29,980
Of course, staff, when was this agenda posted? It was posted the seven days ago. Seven days ago. So our regular agendas are usually five. And I just again for the record, I did go on a couple of other non-city social media posts. I have been skewed for that. So I did post the notice seven days ago when it did get posted.

2166
04:00:29,980 --> 04:00:41,840
posted on police scanner and Southgate News telling them that we were going to have the meeting and that the agenda staff report and post ordinance were available on the city's website.

2167
04:00:42,760 --> 04:00:52,340
Right, because I know that we got this agenda. I mean, when first came out, because I think we were having a budget meeting when this came out.

2168
04:00:52,340 --> 04:01:00,880
So it gave us the amount of time for us to read it and it was out also in our website.

2169
04:01:02,920 --> 04:01:11,440
Staff, I guess when I went to staff, I mean staff answer questions that I had in outcomes.

2170
04:01:11,640 --> 04:01:17,680
Did do I have concerns? Oh, I want to make sure that we have.

2171
04:01:17,680 --> 04:01:31,400
Now, and I think somebody mentioned a liaison, you know, to help the process of for the vendors. I mean, when they come and and get their permits.

2172
04:01:32,140 --> 04:01:38,160
And I think here it's we're doing what our constituents elect us for.

2173
04:01:39,180 --> 04:01:44,900
they elected us to make tough decisions and I think this is one of the toughest decisions

2174
04:01:44,900 --> 04:01:53,260
that we are making right now. And for the health of our community, we need to follow state

2175
04:01:53,260 --> 04:02:02,140
regulations. Unfortunately, the state makes laws that sometimes it doesn't help our cities,

2176
04:02:02,140 --> 04:02:10,380
But you know what, they come with this laws, but they don't give us no funding to do the job.

2177
04:02:11,760 --> 04:02:21,170
The decisions that we make, I know that we are not going to make everybody happy.

2178
04:02:22,730 --> 04:02:28,350
It doesn't matter which side of the table, we're not going to make everybody happy.

2179
04:02:28,350 --> 04:02:36,490
We're going to we have businesses that pay their license. We have businesses they do their

2180
04:02:36,950 --> 04:02:43,650
their you know their diligence to follow regulations and we need to

2181
04:02:44,670 --> 04:02:51,590
continue having those kind of responsibility and one of the things that it does concern me what

2182
04:02:51,590 --> 04:03:02,680
happens. And this question, Erkman, I can ask our city attorney. Okay. Say that there's a lawsuit

2183
04:03:02,680 --> 04:03:11,280
that it goes towards one of the vendors. Are we liable? Is the city liable? Is it say that

2184
04:03:11,280 --> 04:03:19,180
somebody falls sick and and there's a lawsuit can they come back to the city and also

2185
04:03:19,180 --> 04:03:21,120
by a lawsuit against the city.

2186
04:03:22,040 --> 04:03:26,440
Madam Mayor, the concern there is that the vendor

2187
04:03:26,440 --> 04:03:29,760
would be operating on a portion of the city sidewalk.

2188
04:03:30,560 --> 04:03:34,600
The city would be allowing that vendor to operate there.

2189
04:03:35,120 --> 04:03:37,780
The concern would be that if someone were slipping

2190
04:03:38,200 --> 04:03:43,120
on oil, for example, that fell from one of the stoves

2191
04:03:43,860 --> 04:03:46,620
and that contributed to the sidewalk,

2192
04:03:46,620 --> 04:03:52,340
the question would be well was it because the sidewalk somehow was not properly maintained or was it

2193
04:03:52,340 --> 04:03:59,740
because the sidewalk had oil on it that came from the vendor. So the issues could be very complicated

2194
04:03:59,740 --> 04:04:06,600
as a result. The reality is that more likely than not, a lawyer representing a plaintiff in that case

2195
04:04:06,600 --> 04:04:14,100
would not want to air by not sitting everybody potentially involved. So the city could be brought

2196
04:04:14,100 --> 04:04:21,640
into the action, even though it was not at fault to begin with, but it's now named as a defendant

2197
04:04:21,640 --> 04:04:27,060
for something that could have been caused by the vendor. We don't know in this hypothetical

2198
04:04:27,060 --> 04:04:33,060
that you posed, but it is an added risk that the city now has, and that's the reason for the

2199
04:04:33,060 --> 04:04:40,520
indemnification of the city. Thank you. Thank you for the response. So with that matter, Mayor,

2200
04:04:42,900 --> 04:04:52,720
I just have one more just because it was brought up during public comment city attorney they mentioned several cases so

2201
04:04:54,640 --> 04:04:59,940
Should this council approve the ordinance the way it's written and it encroaches

2202
04:05:00,000 --> 04:05:09,060
Is in any way, shape, or form on the California or the United States Constitution? Would this council be able to bring it back and make those appropriate changes?

2203
04:05:11,440 --> 04:05:31,040
Madam Mayor, if the question is, if a court determines that the ordinance for one reason or another, do not meet one of the judicial standards. It did not meet one of the state law. Most certainly the city would be required to amend its ordinance to address that finding. Thank you.

2204
04:05:31,040 --> 04:05:40,280
And I know one of the residents that came in did indicate that in the ordinance, there is no resources.

2205
04:05:41,380 --> 04:05:54,320
Now I and city manager just clarified that we are going to have a brochure that actually walks all of our vendors through the process to be able to get the permits needed.

2206
04:05:55,480 --> 04:06:07,220
and a system obviously hopefully with somebody that is native to the language that the vendor is speaking to be able to facilitate that for them. I just want to make sure that that support will be there for them.

2207
04:06:07,220 --> 04:06:16,300
That's our intent. Again, I've looked at a number of other cities, San Jose, Fresno,

2208
04:06:17,520 --> 04:06:20,260
that have done I think pretty good.

2209
04:06:21,940 --> 04:06:26,480
Efforts both from YouTube's brochures and other things.

2210
04:06:26,780 --> 04:06:30,800
And so plagiarism is not a for letter word in government.

2211
04:06:31,180 --> 04:06:35,000
So I think using that as a basis to springboard from

2212
04:06:35,720 --> 04:06:49,520
We don't have to reinvent the wheel, I think that they provide a pretty good how to and they do it both in multiple languages, even beyond Spanish because of their populations, they have a lot of languages out there.

2213
04:06:50,240 --> 04:06:55,000
Yes, from that process is our intent to do that.

2214
04:06:55,440 --> 04:06:57,900
Thank you. So at this time, what are the issues?

2215
04:06:57,900 --> 04:07:00,520
I had a couple real questions.

2216
04:07:03,860 --> 04:07:09,300
So what is the average cost of a cart that's required?

2217
04:07:11,460 --> 04:07:14,380
Jim, you're probably more familiar with this.

2218
04:07:14,940 --> 04:07:19,360
But one of the impediments I've heard the most is getting a,

2219
04:07:19,660 --> 04:07:23,540
an essence of pre-approved cart that by the county health department.

2220
04:07:23,540 --> 04:07:25,460
You know, one of that.

2221
04:07:25,480 --> 04:07:25,760
Correct.

2222
04:07:26,900 --> 04:07:28,320
And so, sorry.

2223
04:07:28,320 --> 04:07:29,040
Sorry, go ahead.

2224
04:07:30,680 --> 04:07:36,160
Yes, so that's something that is currently being dealt with under SB 972.

2225
04:07:36,320 --> 04:07:45,960
And so if I can answer that in a little bit long-winded, but the cost of it used to be very extreme because of requirements that the health department had.

2226
04:07:45,960 --> 04:07:53,120
So, for example, you would have to have a three-compartment sink inside of the cart in order to properly sell food items.

2227
04:07:53,800 --> 04:08:01,440
SB 972, however, has reduced some of those requirements and therefore will reduce the cost of some of the carts.

2228
04:08:02,100 --> 04:08:10,980
One of the other things that the state has done is it's allowing local health departments to see a set of plans and

2229
04:08:10,980 --> 04:08:16,260
And I prove a particular card for a particular type of vending.

2230
04:08:16,900 --> 04:08:20,640
So for example, if someone comes in and says, well, I want to sell our raspados, fine.

2231
04:08:20,900 --> 04:08:23,100
We're going to approve a type of card to sell that.

2232
04:08:23,640 --> 04:08:28,280
And if someone else comes in to get approval for that type of a card, it'll be a much more

2233
04:08:28,280 --> 04:08:34,300
quicker and expedited process because they've already approved that card for other vendors.

2234
04:08:35,640 --> 04:08:41,660
As those regulations and those approvals become easier, then the cost of making the

2235
04:08:41,660 --> 04:08:44,840
card of manufacturing it and getting the approvals will also reduce.

2236
04:08:45,560 --> 04:08:49,400
So I can't give you a specific amount right now because they're still working out those

2237
04:08:49,400 --> 04:08:55,080
things, but those costs are not created obviously by the local jurisdiction.

2238
04:08:55,760 --> 04:08:59,700
Ultimately, they're going to be as a result of whatever the health code, I'm sorry, whatever

2239
04:08:59,700 --> 04:09:02,860
the health department determines are the necessary requirements.

2240
04:09:02,860 --> 04:09:05,860
And it will change depending on what you're selling.

2241
04:09:06,360 --> 04:09:11,720
So if you are selling what they call potentially hazardous food, which is typically things that

2242
04:09:11,720 --> 04:09:17,400
need to be temperature controlled or time controlled, raw meats, if you are dealing with dairy,

2243
04:09:18,120 --> 04:09:20,080
those things might be a little bit more expensive.

2244
04:09:20,500 --> 04:09:27,160
If you're dealing with what they call non-potentially hazardous food or pre-packaged food, those things

2245
04:09:27,160 --> 04:09:31,520
might be more reduced because the health code requirements for that cart will be less.

2246
04:09:31,520 --> 04:09:36,600
So, I don't have an estimate right now because some of those health code requirements have

2247
04:09:36,600 --> 04:09:44,560
just changed as a result of SB 972 and because of that, manufacturers are still creating

2248
04:09:45,020 --> 04:09:51,100
the appropriate prototype, if you will, for a model card that will be able to be approved

2249
04:09:51,100 --> 04:09:56,480
by the health department, and then the entire, anybody who comes in with that type of card

2250
04:09:56,480 --> 04:09:58,320
would have a more expedited fashion.

2251
04:09:58,320 --> 04:09:59,980
So I don't know the exact amount of the-

2252
04:10:04,640 --> 04:10:12,900
The current card is costing regardless of what you just explained, but if today they wanted

2253
04:10:12,900 --> 04:10:21,580
to get a card for that, would that be in the 5,000 or above? I would say definitely an excess

2254
04:10:21,580 --> 04:10:24,280
of 2,500 and possibly over 5, yes.

2255
04:10:27,880 --> 04:10:32,420
That is a problem. And I asked staff to take a look

2256
04:10:32,420 --> 04:10:42,080
to see if we had any possibility of using ARPA money to assist part and part not entirely

2257
04:10:42,080 --> 04:10:43,660
in part for that

2258
04:10:46,610 --> 04:10:53,010
assistance. So the US Treasury guidelines for ARPA indicates that you can utilize

2259
04:10:53,350 --> 04:11:01,150
the funding to support small businesses that have been directly impacted by COVID through the use

2260
04:11:01,150 --> 04:11:07,870
of, you know, one-time grants or assistance like that. So, you know, as we could probably

2261
04:11:07,870 --> 04:11:13,970
state that these businesses were impacted by COVID, there's a really great area that

2262
04:11:13,970 --> 04:11:20,070
you have to ensure that we can justify using ARPA money for that reason and that we can,

2263
04:11:20,230 --> 04:11:25,790
100% say, that we're giving it in support of it being impacted by COVID.

2264
04:11:33,100 --> 04:11:36,880
All righty. Thank you. I think we've had a lively discussion. So what are the wishes of council?

2265
04:11:38,950 --> 04:11:40,290
Well, go ahead.

2266
04:11:41,650 --> 04:11:47,970
I just think that there's a lot of information that we, I don't feel comfortable at this time.

2267
04:11:48,230 --> 04:11:51,290
I mean, the laws are changing as we speak.

2268
04:11:52,190 --> 04:11:53,810
Again, I'll reiterate.

2269
04:11:54,770 --> 04:11:57,050
I think we got ahead of the public on this one.

2270
04:11:57,230 --> 04:11:57,870
I think that.

2271
04:11:59,670 --> 04:12:00,450
Not enough.

2272
04:12:00,850 --> 04:12:03,770
And there's always been a concern about communication with the community.

2273
04:12:03,790 --> 04:12:05,270
Everybody on the council knows that.

2274
04:12:05,270 --> 04:12:28,950
And I don't think, but again, and then I want to be fair to in the sense that I know that a lot of the folks that were here today against this ordinance don't, you know, maybe they say they represent the vendors, but I know I know vendors that are out there that are real humble individuals that are just trying to make a living and support their families.

2275
04:12:29,610 --> 04:12:38,910
So, you know, I don't want us to, you know, I know that that can alter how we view things, but anyways, those are my views.

2276
04:12:40,270 --> 04:12:44,950
Just for clarification, city, I mean, I'm sorry, city manager.

2277
04:12:46,750 --> 04:12:53,570
This will need to come back for a second reading, which at that point we would then identify if.

2278
04:12:54,230 --> 04:13:04,510
Any questions that we have here, a council would be addressed by that point and then be able to have a full understanding of what the ordinance will be at that time and then have a second reading.

2279
04:13:05,210 --> 04:13:09,750
Well, I'll have the city attorney explain how ordinances can be addressed.

2280
04:13:09,750 --> 04:13:17,270
Yes. Tonight's meeting is an introduction of the ordinance. So if the council moves to approve

2281
04:13:17,270 --> 04:13:22,410
the ordinance tonight and then wants to make changes two weeks from now, for example,

2282
04:13:22,630 --> 04:13:29,410
then we wouldn't be able to adopt it. It has to be introduced again at that meeting so

2283
04:13:29,410 --> 04:13:34,850
that the public knows. And then there would have to be an adoption after that at a subsequent

2284
04:13:34,850 --> 04:13:37,410
meeting in time, according to the Brown Act.

2285
04:13:40,830 --> 04:13:52,310
Right now, I guess, what is the rush right now? I mean, that's what I, I mean, is there a rush to move this forward? I mean, what is the rush? What's behind this? I mean, that there's an urgency for us to approve this.

2286
04:13:55,500 --> 04:13:57,700
Well, I would just address it this way.

2287
04:13:58,600 --> 04:14:07,200
currently our code is not fully compliant with state law and how this got brought to my attention

2288
04:14:07,200 --> 04:14:14,780
was we had issued citations to a couple of vendors and the court commissioner had indicated and

2289
04:14:14,780 --> 04:14:20,920
threw them out because we weren't compliant in their mind on the sections we were citing them for

2290
04:14:20,920 --> 04:14:49,160
So, you know, it brings us into compliance from the code and I think everybody agrees we have to have an operational code from that process. So again, you know, the council can always as it sees how this works through and that's saying that because I think you're always will have very emotional comments.

2291
04:14:49,160 --> 04:14:55,620
comments, but you can always come back and see six months or a year after how this code

2292
04:14:55,620 --> 04:14:59,980
is playing out from that. I was watching actually...

2293
04:15:00,660 --> 04:15:29,020
The city of San Jose, which is not a very progressive city from that standpoint. And they had asked staff to come back in a year. And so I was watching the video of them coming back after a year to say what, you know, how was it going? What issues changes that staff would do. And so they had just completed that.

2294
04:15:29,020 --> 04:15:33,800
a couple of weeks ago, that review and changes from that process.

2295
04:15:34,000 --> 04:15:39,820
So we could always come back and make a report of what's happened out in the field,

2296
04:15:39,920 --> 04:15:42,680
what are we observed, and so forth from that.

2297
04:15:42,940 --> 04:15:46,820
But I think the biggest thing from our concern is we have been put on notice

2298
04:15:46,820 --> 04:15:50,440
that our ordinance isn't fully compliant with state law at this point.

2299
04:15:51,040 --> 04:15:55,840
And we should get as close to compliance as we can so that everybody knows

2300
04:15:55,840 --> 04:15:58,260
what the rules are going forward from that.

2301
04:15:59,220 --> 04:16:07,820
And then just to add, if we wanted to make any recommendations on the actual structure

2302
04:16:07,820 --> 04:16:13,280
of what the ordinance would be, including the fingerprinting as part of the licensing fee,

2303
04:16:14,100 --> 04:16:23,980
any adjustments to the feet from whatever street side or location, we would have to do it

2304
04:16:23,980 --> 04:16:31,180
now so that that way it would be able to be read as requested and then be able to be brought back.

2305
04:16:32,040 --> 04:16:33,500
Just wanted to clarify that.

2306
04:16:34,580 --> 04:16:37,680
Yeah, the other than very minor changes,

2307
04:16:39,120 --> 04:16:46,860
a any kind of revision of the ordinance as it sits right now would need to have it be reintroduced

2308
04:16:46,860 --> 04:16:47,700
as a subsequent meeting.

2309
04:16:51,000 --> 04:16:54,900
Well, with that, I'd like to go ahead and make a motion to

2310
04:16:54,900 --> 04:17:02,120
to approve the ordinance with the adjustment that we include and they're they're not being

2311
04:17:02,120 --> 04:17:08,340
additional cost fingerprinting to the business license to that process that being incurred

2312
04:17:08,340 --> 04:17:17,780
as part of the total business license and that is the only requirement and I would say that

2313
04:17:17,780 --> 04:17:21,580
you know, just to make sure that it's like against its operation, that's an operational thing.

2314
04:17:21,580 --> 04:17:27,180
make sure it's all taken care of in one location and not having to make the three-vendor jump to the loops.

2315
04:17:29,240 --> 04:17:31,440
So I'll wait for, if there's a second.

2316
04:17:32,140 --> 04:17:33,920
Yeah, sorry about that.

2317
04:17:34,360 --> 04:17:37,160
Can we discuss at this point?

2318
04:17:38,660 --> 04:17:41,660
Mr. Vice-Mayor, you need a, there's a motion made.

2319
04:17:41,780 --> 04:17:44,620
You need to have a second in order to have discussion.

2320
04:17:45,520 --> 04:17:49,300
All right, so for the purposes of having discussion, I'm going to second that.

2321
04:17:50,940 --> 04:17:55,980
I would like to see though the reduction from 500 feet. I think that is a little bit too.

2322
04:17:56,160 --> 04:18:04,120
I agree with that. We'll be reducing that. So, again, the 500 feet, if I'm not mistaken, is for

2323
04:18:04,120 --> 04:18:10,980
stationary, stationary vending, not roaming. It's roaming, they can be across the street from the

2324
04:18:10,980 --> 04:18:13,020
call. They can be first.

2325
04:18:17,100 --> 04:18:23,220
They could roam around schools, but but not the stationery is 500, right?

2326
04:18:23,940 --> 04:18:30,500
Well, as Jim explained, this currently as written would apply to roaming too. So you

2327
04:18:30,500 --> 04:18:39,540
would have to add a disclaimer for roaming from that process. So if I could ask, let me

2328
04:18:39,540 --> 04:18:50,960
start. So if the fees for photographs and fingerprints is the motion that the council member made, so under section 8

2329
04:18:53,640 --> 04:19:10,380
to 16, there is a sentence that says, read this paragraph just for the record, applicant shall submit a photograph of the applicant to complete set of applicant fingerprints.

2330
04:19:10,380 --> 04:19:14,700
fingerprints, the Southgate Police Department are designated thereof in a manner

2331
04:19:14,700 --> 04:19:19,420
and form approved by the Southgate Police Department. Applicants shall pay any fees for

2332
04:19:19,420 --> 04:19:25,140
photographs and fingerprints, so you would strike that sentence, that last sentence, if that's,

2333
04:19:25,700 --> 04:19:27,500
it's on page 7 of 26.

2334
04:19:28,580 --> 04:19:33,160
And if I can add, I don't believe we actually need to amend it to do with the Council's

2335
04:19:33,160 --> 04:19:38,060
requesting, which is if the Council's requesting that it just be incorporated into the permit fee,

2336
04:19:38,060 --> 04:19:42,100
The city can do that without having to change the language of the code.

2337
04:19:42,440 --> 04:19:45,240
It's just the question of when we collect it and how we collect it.

2338
04:19:45,460 --> 04:19:49,960
So if what the city wants is, if what the council wants is for us, just to say, okay,

2339
04:19:50,080 --> 04:19:55,020
well, the permit fee is, and I don't remember the exact number, but let's assume it was $150.

2340
04:19:55,020 --> 04:19:59,960
$50, and the fingerprint fee is $35, then we can just say, okay, you-

2341
04:20:00,000 --> 04:20:29,880
We will owe $185 all at the same time. That's something that can be done without having to modify the ordinance. Well, I think for clarity purposes, Jim, I would go ahead and delete that sentence. The requirement for fingerprinting and photographs is still required. And we would just pay administratively any costs that are occurred by the state. But that would be clear for the public that there isn't

2342
04:20:29,880 --> 04:20:33,240
a separate fee being asked for fingerprints.

2343
04:20:34,080 --> 04:20:39,820
And I think that that's what the council is trying to communicate is in writing also

2344
04:20:39,820 --> 04:20:42,500
make it as clear as possible from that standpoint.

2345
04:20:43,140 --> 04:20:45,620
Right, and thank you to the manager for that clarification.

2346
04:20:46,780 --> 04:20:53,840
So with the 500 foot level, does that apply to neighborhoods too?

2347
04:20:54,200 --> 04:20:58,520
I mean, being in the neighborhood, is that applied for schools, the 500 feet?

2348
04:20:58,520 --> 04:21:01,520
No, it's specifically for schools to approve.

2349
04:21:01,940 --> 04:21:03,260
Well, let me have Jim explain.

2350
04:21:03,680 --> 04:21:06,920
Stationary aren't allowed in residential neighborhoods.

2351
04:21:07,720 --> 04:21:12,600
Anyway, so roaming is permitted from that standpoint.

2352
04:21:14,620 --> 04:21:22,860
So the 500 foot level or trying to get to it.

2353
04:21:23,400 --> 04:21:24,240
It

2354
04:21:29,200 --> 04:21:31,460
would be in section 10 of the ordinance.

2355
04:21:31,460 --> 04:21:34,440
So it's on page 19 of 26

2356
04:21:37,320 --> 04:21:46,960
has to do with O, the letter O section, which is about three

2357
04:21:47,660 --> 04:21:49,640
paragraphs above the bottom of the page there.

2358
04:21:49,840 --> 04:21:54,680
It says upon any sidewalk in the city that is within 500 feet of the nearest property

2359
04:21:54,680 --> 04:21:59,940
line of any property in which school building or playground is located irrespective of where

2360
04:21:59,940 --> 04:22:07,860
the school or playground is located in the city between the hours of 6 a.m. and 6 p.m. on any school day

2361
04:22:08,660 --> 04:22:09,140
from that.

2362
04:22:11,420 --> 04:22:16,840
So if you're going to modify that, that's the section you're focusing in on.

2363
04:22:21,570 --> 04:22:25,990
It's interesting enough. It seems like most of the vendors are in the evening, and that's I guess to

2364
04:22:25,990 --> 04:22:33,450
kind of avoid that, right? I mean, that's what I'm thinking. Right. So school is usually well out by

2365
04:22:33,450 --> 04:22:42,430
six p.m. at a night and I haven't seen any street bending before 6 a.m. from that but again

2366
04:22:42,430 --> 04:22:47,410
school starts people may be starting especially high school I don't know if you have early periods

2367
04:22:47,410 --> 04:22:59,730
here in Southgate so some schools start at 6 a.m. or 6 30 for early period from that 7 30 oh I know of

2368
04:22:59,730 --> 04:23:02,450
the school district that starts early, but I won't touch.

2369
04:23:03,110 --> 04:23:08,310
And then also just, I'm sorry, James.

2370
04:23:08,630 --> 04:23:12,170
Jim, if we can just have a clarification

2371
04:23:12,930 --> 04:23:17,430
on what the ordinance is regarding the distance for parks

2372
04:23:17,990 --> 04:23:22,770
and that 500 foot, it's also for stationary locations

2373
04:23:22,770 --> 04:23:24,430
or is it 100 foot for parks?

2374
04:23:25,490 --> 04:23:27,530
It's 100 feet and it would be applicable

2375
04:23:27,530 --> 04:23:29,850
to both a roaming and stationery.

2376
04:23:30,570 --> 04:23:39,610
Okay, so again, I think this is one of those things that maybe we can just rethink.

2377
04:23:40,090 --> 04:23:42,490
Let's remove any of the-

2378
04:23:43,390 --> 04:23:50,570
I'm sorry, and just to clarify, that is with respect to- let me apologize- it is with

2379
04:23:50,570 --> 04:23:56,650
respect to stationery sidewalk vendors and again only in those parks where the city has

2380
04:23:56,650 --> 04:24:02,910
the exclusive agreement with a concessionaire, so that limitation does not apply to any other

2381
04:24:02,910 --> 04:24:09,230
park within the city, but it is only applicable to stationary sidewalk vendors for those two

2382
04:24:09,230 --> 04:24:15,270
particular parks that we currently have, but any other one that the city might get an exclusive

2383
04:24:15,270 --> 04:24:16,730
concession agreement with.

2384
04:24:23,700 --> 04:24:29,840
Yeah, I wanted to just ask, you know, what the council thinks regarding

2385
04:24:29,840 --> 04:24:34,600
that distance from the parks for stationary locations.

2386
04:24:34,860 --> 04:24:36,920
I know, for instance, you know,

2387
04:24:37,240 --> 04:24:39,540
one of the biggest concerns that I have is our park,

2388
04:24:39,700 --> 04:24:40,720
especially Southgate Park,

2389
04:24:41,160 --> 04:24:43,480
is one of the most populated parks in the Celia area.

2390
04:24:44,040 --> 04:24:46,120
It has a lot of people just running around,

2391
04:24:46,460 --> 04:24:48,500
you know, running around it in the evening,

2392
04:24:49,160 --> 04:24:52,200
you know, using the park to facilitate, you know,

2393
04:24:52,320 --> 04:24:55,140
their parties and just taking their kids.

2394
04:24:55,720 --> 04:24:58,940
Now, if we have a street vendor directly across the street,

2395
04:25:00,000 --> 04:25:29,940
You know, and traffic is being stopped. Again, those are all safety concerns that I have that will when we have something, you know, so close to location. Now, again, we're not restricting the roaming cards to be able to walk through the pathways of the park. Any any pathway in the park to be able to sell the same rule applies like we did with the if we do make the change for the school area where as long as they're stopped.

2396
04:25:29,940 --> 04:25:37,880
make their sale and then continue moving and as people come up and purchase things, they stop again. I mean, that's the kind of

2397
04:25:38,500 --> 04:25:49,180
you know, safe ordinance or safety first approach that I want to take when we do this because again, we need to be able to be cautious of

2398
04:25:49,180 --> 04:25:56,520
the number of participants or residents and actually just patrons that come to our park from all over Sela to

2399
04:25:56,520 --> 04:25:59,460
to run around in the free space.

2400
04:26:04,210 --> 04:26:08,990
So just for clarity purposes, can we break that into two?

2401
04:26:09,310 --> 04:26:13,330
So we have the school requests that I've heard from the vice mayor.

2402
04:26:13,670 --> 04:26:16,810
You have one, I think you want clarity on part distances.

2403
04:26:17,550 --> 04:26:22,390
So if we can break that because I do want to refer from the ordinance

2404
04:26:22,390 --> 04:26:25,370
with sections we're talking about from that standpoint.

2405
04:26:25,370 --> 04:26:29,230
So the school one, as I said, is on page 19 of 26.

2406
04:26:36,660 --> 04:26:43,940
So if there is a motion or a sub-motion to adjust that.

2407
04:26:43,960 --> 04:26:45,320
I just want to know.

2408
04:26:45,740 --> 04:26:46,880
I'm fine with that amendment.

2409
04:26:47,660 --> 04:26:48,640
And you did mention.

2410
04:26:48,800 --> 04:26:48,960
Sorry.

2411
04:26:49,160 --> 04:26:50,780
Let me just just for clarification.

2412
04:26:51,160 --> 04:26:52,760
What are we amending?

2413
04:26:53,740 --> 04:26:54,820
Which item?

2414
04:26:56,200 --> 04:27:02,420
Oh, on page 19 of 26 on the proposed ordinance in the staff.

2415
04:27:07,120 --> 04:27:12,420
And just to be clear, the proposal is to reduce it from 500 to how much?

2416
04:27:12,900 --> 04:27:18,460
Now, for oh, it's only to remove the stationary, I mean, sorry,

2417
04:27:18,700 --> 04:27:22,400
the, the, the roaming cart from the ordinance, right?

2418
04:27:24,220 --> 04:27:34,920
But that's what our discussion that we're going to allow the roaming ones around the school, but it's just the stationary ones that we still would think that would have to be outside of that scope.

2419
04:27:35,160 --> 04:27:37,880
So then we just need to specify that it's only for stationary.

2420
04:27:38,500 --> 04:27:38,560
Right.

2421
04:27:38,860 --> 04:27:42,560
So just adding that verbage stationary only.

2422
04:27:46,230 --> 04:28:00,790
Again, you should take a motion on if you helpful, if you took individual motions so that we knew so so we do each one like for instance the one that I brought up regarding the the license fee and the fingerprint fee should we do that's that really it would help.

2423
04:28:01,290 --> 04:28:03,430
I have already one motion and you have a second.

2424
04:28:03,430 --> 04:28:04,650
Okay, so that's one.

2425
04:28:04,650 --> 04:28:06,330
So do we do a roll call on that?

2426
04:28:06,330 --> 04:28:09,410
I would do a roll call and make a motion in a second.

2427
04:28:09,790 --> 04:28:12,030
OK, so just for clarification, I'm

2428
04:28:12,030 --> 04:28:16,230
making a motion to include or actually

2429
04:28:16,230 --> 04:28:20,810
wave the fingerprint fee and just charge the light.

2430
04:28:20,990 --> 04:28:23,870
We'll still require the fingerprints and the photo,

2431
04:28:23,890 --> 04:28:28,110
but we're only collecting the license and the permit fee.

2432
04:28:28,590 --> 04:28:33,270
So for clarity, just for this is under section 16.

2433
04:28:35,810 --> 04:28:44,250
Section 8, D2, 16, we would delete the sentence that says applicant shall pay any fees for

2434
04:28:44,250 --> 04:28:49,050
for the rest of the things that would be the motion. I think I'm hearing the councilman.

2435
04:28:49,310 --> 04:28:51,730
And we had a motion in a second.

2436
04:28:53,370 --> 04:28:54,310
Yeah, second.

2437
04:28:54,310 --> 04:28:58,190
in that. Okay. And then I'll call the, uh, before we do roll call, let me

2438
04:28:58,190 --> 04:29:01,390
several quick. Concert there. Right.

2439
04:29:06,320 --> 04:29:10,480
There's no protest. Yeah. What are they saying?

2440
04:29:19,820 --> 04:29:20,220
What are they saying?

2441
04:29:46,540 --> 04:29:48,920
Just for clarity purposes,

2442
04:29:52,030 --> 04:29:54,530
just for clarity, you can get other

2443
04:29:54,530 --> 04:29:59,930
fingerprints from third parties outside the city here. So this just reflects that

2444
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:29,980
If they come here to the city, PD, to get fingerprinted, that we're not, that fee is being rolled up into that. So we wouldn't be paying them if they got from Jeffers, travel agency and the passport, you know, whatever it is. That's still on them, but if they get it through us, then the fee is being incorporated. So it would be something we would add in our brochure. Right. You know, if you get through us. Right. That fee was wasted. That's just the procedural clear.

2445
04:30:29,980 --> 04:30:32,180
Okay. We want to make sure everybody understands.

2446
04:30:35,860 --> 04:30:38,120
We'll hold on for a minute or another consult.

2447
04:31:02,280 --> 04:31:08,140
So the motion and the second is strike that sentence as I read into the record.

2448
04:31:10,160 --> 04:31:10,640
Roll call.

2449
04:31:11,700 --> 04:31:12,840
Council Member Barron.

2450
04:31:13,660 --> 04:31:13,800
Yes.

2451
04:31:14,420 --> 04:31:15,680
Council Member Davila.

2452
04:31:16,520 --> 04:31:17,460
Council Member Teos.

2453
04:31:20,900 --> 04:31:22,240
Are we voting just on the motion?

2454
04:31:22,460 --> 04:31:24,280
I need point of clarification. We're voting here.

2455
04:31:24,480 --> 04:31:25,940
Your voting on section eight.

2456
04:31:26,620 --> 04:31:26,740
D.

2457
04:31:27,060 --> 04:31:27,620
Yes.

2458
04:31:27,620 --> 04:31:28,980
Yes. Yes. Yes.

2459
04:31:29,460 --> 04:31:32,040
Mayor, I'm sorry, vice mayor follow. Yes.

2460
04:31:32,840 --> 04:31:34,380
Mayor Aloes. Yes.

2461
04:31:35,540 --> 04:31:36,520
Motion passes.

2462
04:31:37,580 --> 04:31:39,020
What is your second motion?

2463
04:31:41,260 --> 04:31:41,560
Hold on.

2464
04:31:43,620 --> 04:31:44,040
Sorry.

2465
04:31:45,120 --> 04:31:45,880
Second motion.

2466
04:31:46,060 --> 04:31:49,160
Oh, well, the second one has to deal with.

2467
04:31:51,160 --> 04:31:52,100
I follow.

2468
04:31:52,240 --> 04:31:52,680
Well,

2469
04:31:55,560 --> 04:32:01,080
we just that with. Oh, so the next one has to do with the 500 foot.

2470
04:32:02,520 --> 04:32:30,080
That's oh, oh, I'm sorry. Thank you on page 19 of 26. So the intent would be to add that this is applicable to stationary vendors and somehow we'll word it either for stationary sidewalk vendors upon any sidewalk that a dollar or something like that somewhere but that's the motion.

2471
04:32:30,080 --> 04:32:30,760
motion.

2472
04:32:49,680 --> 04:32:53,580
So Jim are you still with us at this late hour?

2473
04:32:57,800 --> 04:33:02,420
Yes I am. So we

2474
04:33:05,580 --> 04:33:08,240
want to say for sidewalk

2475
04:33:08,240 --> 04:33:14,960
Vendee upon or sidewalk vending permit for stationary.

2476
04:33:15,360 --> 04:33:16,420
For stationary.

2477
04:33:16,960 --> 04:33:21,020
I'm sorry, stationary, what sidewalk vendor upon any.

2478
04:33:21,700 --> 04:33:23,620
Where would you insert that in O?

2479
04:33:36,220 --> 04:33:41,160
We could stick it as a parenthetical at the end and just say as applied to stationary sidewalk vendors only.

2480
04:33:42,220 --> 04:33:42,460
Okay.

2481
04:34:03,150 --> 04:34:12,830
Okay, so we had a we had a motion, but we still had I made that motion, but we still don't have a second for that motion.

2482
04:34:13,530 --> 04:34:16,630
So you want to reiterate your motion again.

2483
04:34:16,630 --> 04:34:29,470
So this would be the O would now read upon any sidewalk in the city that is within 500 feet of the nearest property line of any property on which school building or playground is located.

2484
04:34:32,210 --> 04:34:32,810
here.

2485
04:34:32,810 --> 04:34:36,470
The school is located between the

2486
04:34:37,150 --> 04:34:39,070
6 a.m. and 6 p.m.

2487
04:34:39,250 --> 04:34:41,350
of any school day, as applied to

2488
04:34:41,350 --> 04:34:43,530
stationary sidewalk, vendor,

2489
04:34:45,050 --> 04:34:47,070
point of clear because I think

2490
04:34:47,070 --> 04:34:49,050
it will impact one of our vendors

2491
04:34:49,050 --> 04:34:50,890
that's right there on rio and I

2492
04:34:50,890 --> 04:34:52,110
think that's when you said that's

2493
04:34:52,110 --> 04:34:53,610
legal because that would be

2494
04:34:53,610 --> 04:34:54,530
close to the school.

2495
04:34:54,530 --> 04:34:59,970
I'm sorry that it that would impact one of the vendors that's on right

2496
04:35:05,600 --> 04:35:25,460
I don't believe that the current sidewalk vendors have been approved for specific locations. So he hasn't been granted a license for a specific location at this time. He's been approved for vending, but not at a specific location.

2497
04:35:25,460 --> 04:35:41,160
So, but he is also in violation because he's right at the corner so with this code, he would have to move down 25 feet. So there's other limitations that may impact him from that standpoint.

2498
04:35:43,410 --> 04:35:43,930
Okay.

2499
04:35:44,370 --> 04:35:49,310
Anyway, that's how if that's the intent of the council, that's how that section would read.

2500
04:35:54,950 --> 04:35:56,330
Yes, that is my motion.

2501
04:35:59,120 --> 04:36:01,340
There's a motion on a second.

2502
04:36:01,760 --> 04:36:02,360
Council member Barron.

2503
04:36:03,400 --> 04:36:03,540
Yes.

2504
04:36:03,840 --> 04:36:04,640
Council member Davila.

2505
04:36:05,460 --> 04:36:06,240
Council member Ríos.

2506
04:36:08,560 --> 04:36:09,260
I'm not sure on that.

2507
04:36:09,300 --> 04:36:10,620
I'll stay up staying on that one.

2508
04:36:11,120 --> 04:36:11,800
By the mayor's dad.

2509
04:36:12,020 --> 04:36:12,380
Yes.

2510
04:36:13,080 --> 04:36:13,940
Mayor Abelus.

2511
04:36:14,400 --> 04:36:14,520
Yes.

2512
04:36:17,530 --> 04:36:22,970
So the next topic that I've heard is under on page 15 of 26,

2513
04:36:22,970 --> 04:36:32,410
really relating to number three additional operating requirements in parks, so I don't know there was some talk about a hundred foot.

2514
04:36:33,990 --> 04:36:37,110
Topics, so that's under both three A and three B.

2515
04:36:42,020 --> 04:36:56,240
Can we, and this is a question, can we restricted to areas not actually on the sidewalk of the park and just say it would be across the street.

2516
04:36:56,240 --> 04:37:13,600
It would have to be on the other side of the street only because I'm saying those sidewalks are used by a lot of joggers, runners on a daily basis, and I don't want to open it up to have a stationary location right on the park runway, I would say.

2517
04:37:15,080 --> 04:37:23,360
If the council wanted to do that, my recommendation will probably be to reduce the amount to 50 feet, which would likely be approximately across the street.

2518
04:37:23,360 --> 04:37:37,330
and the rationale is most street widths are about 60 feet we can talk about parking and with the lanes right now the hundred foot they would be across the street.

2519
04:37:37,510 --> 04:37:37,710
Okay.

2520
04:37:38,110 --> 04:37:44,010
They wouldn't be on the sidewalk butting Southgate Park for example from that standpoint.

2521
04:37:44,310 --> 04:37:46,530
May I just ask a quick question Jim.

2522
04:37:47,110 --> 04:37:52,430
I just want to make sure that you're aware that across the street is on residential.

2523
04:37:52,430 --> 04:37:58,530
no. So stationary, if that's the case for that particular park, stationary sidewalk vendors

2524
04:37:58,530 --> 04:38:04,980
can't be in a residential zone anyways. And then roaming sidewalk vendors could be there,

2525
04:38:05,160 --> 04:38:11,380
but roaming sidewalk vendors are not subject to this 100-foot. And then requirement anyways.

2526
04:38:11,900 --> 04:38:19,920
On the north side of the park, that property is underneath the, I don't want to say antiseptic

2527
04:38:19,920 --> 04:38:27,160
department of water, right? Electrical. So, there's still not allowed to operate on that area.

2528
04:38:27,480 --> 04:38:32,940
That's private. Not on private property, no. So, okay. But if there's a public sidewalk in front

2529
04:38:32,940 --> 04:38:39,620
of that private property, and it were outside whatever distance requirement the council imposes,

2530
04:38:40,140 --> 04:38:43,720
then they would be able to operate on the sidewalk, but not on the Edison property.

2531
04:38:50,060 --> 04:38:57,900
But again, that sidewalk is couldn't accommodate because it's not at least eight feet wide.

2532
04:39:00,280 --> 04:39:03,420
So I mean, could we just just make it as simple as possible?

2533
04:39:03,420 --> 04:39:16,900
Just say that there's no stationary, you know, bending anywhere within, I mean, because anywhere within 50 feet of that, it's all residential or

2534
04:39:16,900 --> 04:39:21,200
or not a private property around the park.

2535
04:39:21,540 --> 04:39:23,520
So I guess what I'm wondering is

2536
04:39:23,520 --> 04:39:26,260
are we wasting our time to create a section of ordinance

2537
04:39:26,260 --> 04:39:29,340
that really is not applicable regardless?

2538
04:39:30,000 --> 04:39:32,120
If you don't have that section,

2539
04:39:32,540 --> 04:39:35,260
then a stationary sidewalk vendor could potentially operate

2540
04:39:35,260 --> 04:39:36,980
on the sidewalk immediately outside

2541
04:39:36,980 --> 04:39:38,280
and adjacent to the parks.

2542
04:39:41,720 --> 04:39:46,260
So the goal is to allow those sidewalks to be free and clear

2543
04:39:46,260 --> 04:39:50,040
for people as you've indicated who might be jogging or doing something else that's

2544
04:39:50,040 --> 04:39:55,460
recreation related to the park, then you would need to include some additional buffer,

2545
04:39:55,460 --> 04:39:56,340
Right?

2546
04:39:56,560 --> 04:39:59,980
Whether it's 25 feet, 50 feet, 100 feet, but...

2547
04:40:00,000 --> 04:40:01,500
But there would have to be some additional buffer.

2548
04:40:04,580 --> 04:40:29,720
So I think the hundred feet accomplishes the concern I'm hearing from you. So they aren't right on that path that's well traveled from joggers and walkers from that process. From that. But yeah, I guess I just want to make sure we we're not extending that further than we really need to. And I think.

2549
04:40:29,720 --> 04:40:46,440
I think I agree with the with the gym about the gym. Sorry. Yes, it is. That's why with the 50 feet making it at least past the initial sidewalk.

2550
04:40:47,300 --> 04:40:57,700
So I like to make a motion to to address or amend that section of the ordinance to be 50 feet.

2551
04:41:01,860 --> 04:41:09,380
So Jim is that a or b or both that would be subsection a so it'd be subsection 3a.

2552
04:41:10,340 --> 04:41:13,920
Can you provide a page 915 of 26.

2553
04:41:15,000 --> 04:41:16,280
Thank you.

2554
04:41:19,060 --> 04:41:23,460
So currently it says stationary sidewalk vendors are prohibited from operating within

2555
04:41:23,460 --> 04:41:29,500
any portion of the city park or any sidewalk within 100 feet of the city park which the city

2556
04:41:29,500 --> 04:41:38,140
as signed an agreement for concessions that permit for the sale of merchandise of food exclusively by a concessionaire.

2557
04:41:40,020 --> 04:41:47,000
So what you're proposing is to change that to 50 feet even though, even though it's changed, it's still residential, which means that they could not.

2558
04:41:49,760 --> 04:41:50,580
That's what I mean.

2559
04:41:51,540 --> 04:41:52,520
There's no point.

2560
04:41:52,840 --> 04:41:53,300
It's me.

2561
04:41:53,880 --> 04:41:55,000
There's no point for it.

2562
04:41:55,080 --> 04:41:55,240
No.

2563
04:41:57,640 --> 04:41:58,500
There's no point.

2564
04:42:05,650 --> 04:42:06,810
It's for stationary.

2565
04:42:08,630 --> 04:42:09,890
Which is all residential.

2566
04:42:13,900 --> 04:42:14,600
Go ahead.

2567
04:42:15,100 --> 04:42:18,520
It's just, you know, we deal with ordinances every single day.

2568
04:42:18,740 --> 04:42:22,880
So it would help staff if we were clear in our language.

2569
04:42:23,340 --> 04:42:29,720
So if we do want to have a distance, you know, from, let's say, a certain edge, we should state it in our ordinance.

2570
04:42:30,120 --> 04:42:34,700
So there's no room for misinterpretation or multi interpretation of the code.

2571
04:42:34,940 --> 04:42:38,920
Well, no, we're leaving it with 100 feet because even if we change it to 50.

2572
04:42:39,640 --> 04:42:47,820
across the street it's residential so there's no point in changing it so we're leaving that we're leaving it alone. Thank you.

2573
04:42:47,980 --> 04:42:48,680
Thank you.

2574
04:42:59,410 --> 04:43:03,150
So what are the wishes of council with the remainder of the ordinance?

2575
04:43:05,400 --> 04:43:10,460
Is there a yes you made two motions to make modifications.

2576
04:43:10,460 --> 04:43:11,220
I'm

2577
04:43:13,430 --> 04:43:35,410
sorry, so so I made a motion regarding the 50 foot at nobody's second it died because even at 50 foot, it wouldn't make a difference to so the only two changes I've heard is for the spinger print and for that and

2578
04:43:39,570 --> 04:43:46,090
would this be an appropriate time to you know, I know Mr. Barron if you don't mind.

2579
04:43:46,090 --> 04:43:52,430
Yes, just I want to clarify that would be for stationary the 100 feet

2580
04:43:53,650 --> 04:43:54,630
That's correct

2581
04:43:55,430 --> 04:43:57,410
but B deals with

2582
04:43:58,570 --> 04:44:00,130
Roaming right Jim

2583
04:44:00,810 --> 04:44:06,070
Correct B deals with vendors inside of the park being a certain distance away from

2584
04:44:06,730 --> 04:44:07,990
Certain types of recreational

2585
04:44:09,130 --> 04:44:15,050
Facilities such as but you know baseball diamonds basketball courts tennis courts while they're in use

2586
04:44:15,550 --> 04:44:20,050
also prohibits them from being within that distance of 100 feet of restrooms of

2587
04:44:20,050 --> 04:44:25,770
other concession. So if you have a concession location at any park, whether it's

2588
04:44:25,770 --> 04:44:29,230
you know run by little league or by whoever else, they would have to stay a hundred

2589
04:44:29,230 --> 04:44:33,730
feet away from that. So from restrooms from concession locations as well as from

2590
04:44:33,730 --> 04:44:38,930
playgrounds inside of the park or play areas and baseball diamonds in fields,

2591
04:44:39,310 --> 04:44:44,170
courts, pitches, while they're in use. So those are within the park whereas A

2592
04:44:44,170 --> 04:44:47,470
was within the park plus beyond for the stationery.

2593
04:44:49,480 --> 04:44:58,660
Thank you. So just for clarification, I just want to make sure. So Mr. Vado, is this the one you were wanting to change to 50 feet in comparison to?

2594
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:07,180
First one. No, it was just a stationary one. I wanted just to address that portion of it first, which is Section A,

2595
04:45:11,140 --> 04:45:15,500
which died for a lack of seconds. Which died for a lack of seconds. We can.

2596
04:45:21,160 --> 04:45:24,120
Are we still moving on?

2597
04:45:27,030 --> 04:45:40,190
Well, we did talk. You said the brochure. Are we doing anything else to kind of inform the vendors or educate the vendors a little bit more other than the brochures.

2598
04:45:40,190 --> 04:45:48,610
or anything. Well I think as I mentioned I do plan to look at doing some sort of video

2599
04:45:50,590 --> 04:45:55,830
process as I think as I mentioned to a couple of cities I think did a pretty good job of

2600
04:45:55,830 --> 04:46:00,970
helping walking that through. Certainly whatever ordinance gets adopted we're going to have

2601
04:46:00,970 --> 04:46:06,690
internal training so as people come in especially the business licensary we will help them

2602
04:46:06,690 --> 04:46:20,090
You know, explain what is required and how to get that process through. And, you know, who they need to go see internally, but also just as important external.

2603
04:46:20,490 --> 04:46:31,990
So where you need to go to the state to get a seller's permit, where you need to go to the county health department to get whatever permits you need from them that process.

2604
04:46:31,990 --> 04:46:38,810
So we will have staff trained to answer those questions as they go through.

2605
04:46:40,030 --> 04:46:40,350
Thank you.

2606
04:46:40,370 --> 04:46:51,630
And if there's anything else council can come up with, we're all ears to hear about how we can help make it as clear and as easy as possible from that process.

2607
04:46:51,630 --> 04:47:07,370
And if I may, I'd just like to discuss section three again, but now item B regarding the 100 feet from any field playgrounds, restaurants, any concession areas.

2608
04:47:07,810 --> 04:47:08,810
I like to discuss that.

2609
04:47:10,530 --> 04:47:16,750
Currently, we're seeing, you know, roaming vendors throughout the park.

2610
04:47:16,750 --> 04:47:18,790
Right. We're seeing that on a daily basis.

2611
04:47:20,490 --> 04:47:22,170
So it's happening.

2612
04:47:22,550 --> 04:47:24,870
Let's just help them get permitted.

2613
04:47:25,630 --> 04:47:28,010
Help them receive the business license.

2614
04:47:28,850 --> 04:47:30,130
And make that happen.

2615
04:47:30,650 --> 04:47:34,710
I don't think we need to restrict the distance from any area.

2616
04:47:35,030 --> 04:47:35,330
I think.

2617
04:47:37,870 --> 04:47:39,230
Again, it's just.

2618
04:47:39,590 --> 04:47:41,870
I'm not understanding why there's that restriction.

2619
04:47:42,030 --> 04:47:44,910
Unless there's a from other council members.

2620
04:47:44,910 --> 04:47:47,550
is why they would want to restrict any of this area.

2621
04:47:49,820 --> 04:47:51,860
So typically, I'm sorry, go ahead.

2622
04:47:52,280 --> 04:47:52,900
Go ahead, I'm sorry.

2623
04:47:53,720 --> 04:47:55,900
I was gonna say is that typically the reason you're keeping

2624
04:47:55,900 --> 04:48:01,820
them away from fields and courts and pitches and the like

2625
04:48:01,820 --> 04:48:05,200
where the games are going on is so that they don't interfere

2626
04:48:05,200 --> 04:48:07,020
with the activities that are already going on,

2627
04:48:07,020 --> 04:48:10,540
that they're not creating more of a congestion in an area

2628
04:48:10,540 --> 04:48:13,040
where potentially parents may want to come and sit down

2629
04:48:13,040 --> 04:48:15,940
and watch their kids play, but they can't because locations

2630
04:48:15,940 --> 04:48:20,980
are being taken up by vendors and their lines of customers and the light so that you don't end up

2631
04:48:20,980 --> 04:48:26,200
with a line that ends up interfering onto the court, the pitch, the field. So that's typically

2632
04:48:26,200 --> 04:48:31,600
with respect to that. Obviously, the distance from restrooms, same thing. We don't want a line of

2633
04:48:31,600 --> 04:48:37,300
people who are purchasing from a vendor right outside of a restroom facility that kids may want to

2634
04:48:37,300 --> 04:48:42,520
use but may not be able to get through or get by or you know we don't want people standing around.

2635
04:48:42,520 --> 04:48:44,480
same thing with the playground area.

2636
04:48:45,460 --> 04:48:49,540
So these are the reasons why typically there is a distance requirement from those sort

2637
04:48:49,540 --> 04:48:55,440
of facilities to provide basically a buffer to allow the activities that are supposed

2638
04:48:55,440 --> 04:49:00,780
to be going on on those fields and pitches and courts inside the restrooms at the playgrounds

2639
04:49:00,780 --> 04:49:08,660
to allow those to still be able to occur without interruption by sidewalk learning sort of activities.

2640
04:49:10,060 --> 04:49:27,500
Yeah, thank you for that clarification. I still want to just have that discussion because I think we're seeing it currently happen there in the park. They're operating throughout the playground area, especially, you know, it's happening already.

2641
04:49:27,500 --> 04:49:32,400
So I think the approach that we should take is not to restrict that or make it harder

2642
04:49:32,400 --> 04:49:37,140
for them to operate there, but to help them get their business license, help them get their permits,

2643
04:49:37,160 --> 04:49:40,200
and let them operate within the grounds of that permit.

2644
04:49:40,660 --> 04:49:45,100
And then just like it's a roaming cart so they can go through the park.

2645
04:49:45,580 --> 04:49:48,800
And if they're stopping, I'm pretty sure they're not going to.

2646
04:49:48,940 --> 04:49:51,560
Be applies to station, be applies to stationery as well.

2647
04:49:52,220 --> 04:49:57,240
So, but we wouldn't allow a stationary in our in our current part, right?

2648
04:49:57,660 --> 04:49:59,980
Well, again, you're you're talking the one.

2649
04:50:00,000 --> 04:50:28,640
Once where we are legally allowed to prohibit stationary is only in parts where you have the exclusive agreement. So if you have other parts for which we do not have the exclusive agreement, we cannot prohibit stationary sidewalk vendors at those locations. But the sidewalk is the actual sidewalk of the park. Any paved walkway within the park where they can also still provide for ADA accessibility or any paved area within the park.

2650
04:50:28,640 --> 04:50:35,380
So some parts happen to have, you know, a larger paved areas that may not necessarily be.

2651
04:50:35,820 --> 04:50:39,260
They're part of a walkway, but they might be part of some other component of the park.

2652
04:50:39,840 --> 04:50:42,820
So I'm not familiar with every single one of the parts that you guys have.

2653
04:50:43,380 --> 04:50:49,500
But it would be any paved area within that park so long as they can still provide for ADA accessibility.

2654
04:50:50,960 --> 04:51:00,820
So, Jim, could we also add language here then that says effort will only to stationery sidewalk vendors? Yes.

2655
04:51:03,390 --> 04:51:08,450
So roaming would be excluded from that. And roaming is not an issue there at the park, right?

2656
04:51:08,730 --> 04:51:10,770
I can answer that. The answer is no.

2657
04:51:10,770 --> 04:51:30,490
That every vendor that I've ever seen at the park knows how to move out of the way knows how to stay out of the way. That's not a problem. So remove that hundred foot thing. Well, I think you just add to be within park as applied.

2658
04:51:30,490 --> 04:51:33,450
the same language used previously,

2659
04:51:35,760 --> 04:51:41,520
as applied to stationary sidewalk vendors

2660
04:51:41,520 --> 04:51:42,020
only.

2661
04:51:46,060 --> 04:51:51,520
Is that what you're saying? Yeah, and the hundred foot thing is removed

2662
04:51:51,520 --> 04:51:56,660
for roaming. Yes. Okay. That's your motion? Yes, that's fine. I'll second that.

2663
04:51:58,890 --> 04:52:00,030
There's a motion.

2664
04:52:09,900 --> 04:52:11,180
We're going to, okay, I'm sorry.

2665
04:52:14,730 --> 04:52:16,370
I mean, you saw me type that message.

2666
04:52:17,290 --> 04:52:19,390
City clerk, how long it took me?

2667
04:52:22,030 --> 04:52:22,610
All

2668
04:52:25,300 --> 04:52:27,400
right, so B would now read,

2669
04:52:27,980 --> 04:52:30,460
in order to protect the health and safety and welfare,

2670
04:52:30,720 --> 04:52:33,360
sidewalk vendors, pay trends and other persons frequently,

2671
04:52:34,140 --> 04:52:37,460
frequenting or using the services available at a park

2672
04:52:37,460 --> 04:52:39,880
and to ensure the public's use and enjoyment

2673
04:52:39,880 --> 04:52:43,200
of natural resources and recreational opportunities

2674
04:52:43,200 --> 04:52:43,980
within the park.

2675
04:52:43,980 --> 04:52:48,960
sidewalk vendors shall not then within 100 feet

2676
04:52:51,480 --> 04:52:54,000
100 feet Chris I think we can

2677
04:52:54,000 --> 04:52:58,300
just add in the word stationary before sidewalk vendors and then you just

2678
04:52:58,300 --> 04:53:02,240
leave it at that because it sounds like that's what council wants to do right so

2679
04:53:05,190 --> 04:53:10,230
if the last portion of it says opportunities within a park comma stationary

2680
04:53:10,230 --> 04:53:12,590
sidewalk vendors shall not then within

2681
04:53:18,350 --> 04:53:23,610
okay does that make sense yeah it does thank

2682
04:53:23,610 --> 04:53:23,930
Thank you, Jim.

2683
04:53:24,410 --> 04:53:29,450
In order to protect the health and safety and welfare of sidewalk vendors, patrons and

2684
04:53:29,450 --> 04:53:34,550
other persons frequenting or using the services available at the park, and to ensure the

2685
04:53:34,550 --> 04:53:39,410
public's use and enjoyment of natural resources and recreational opportunities within the park.

2686
04:53:40,190 --> 04:53:45,510
Stationary sidewalk vendors shall not vend within 100 feet of the following locations within

2687
04:53:45,510 --> 04:53:45,990
the park.

2688
04:53:46,270 --> 04:53:48,710
And then it goes on to list 1, 2, 3, 4.

2689
04:53:52,450 --> 04:53:54,530
Is that you, Mr. Shen, Council Member, on?

2690
04:53:54,710 --> 04:53:55,530
Yes, that is my motion.

2691
04:53:55,530 --> 04:53:57,510
Okay, so there's a motion and a second,

2692
04:53:57,590 --> 04:53:59,290
Madame City Clerk, roll call for you.

2693
04:53:59,510 --> 04:54:00,490
Council Member Barron.

2694
04:54:00,990 --> 04:54:01,150
Yes.

2695
04:54:01,530 --> 04:54:02,370
Council Member Davila.

2696
04:54:03,270 --> 04:54:04,070
Council Member Heos.

2697
04:54:04,610 --> 04:54:04,970
Yes.

2698
04:54:05,670 --> 04:54:06,370
I'm sorry.

2699
04:54:06,810 --> 04:54:07,090
Yes.

2700
04:54:07,870 --> 04:54:07,990
Yes.

2701
04:54:08,790 --> 04:54:09,630
Vice Mayor Zado.

2702
04:54:09,810 --> 04:54:09,990
Yes.

2703
04:54:10,430 --> 04:54:11,130
Mayor Avalos.

2704
04:54:11,330 --> 04:54:11,470
Yes.

2705
04:54:16,200 --> 04:54:20,040
So is there any other discussion points on the proposed ordinance

2706
04:54:20,040 --> 04:54:24,100
than the ones that have been raised and acted upon?

2707
04:54:24,340 --> 04:54:27,240
I think the only other one that I would like to just clarify

2708
04:54:27,240 --> 04:54:39,540
is, you know, at least out events example, the street fairs, any, anything, you know,

2709
04:54:40,660 --> 04:54:46,700
what's the other thing that we do, you know, we do the fairs at the park, the Tweety Mile Fair,

2710
04:54:47,400 --> 04:54:54,240
the fairs of Australia, you know, all those events, car shows, you know, things

2711
04:54:54,240 --> 04:54:59,960
of that sort. What is our current order in saying that we can, what is it?

2712
04:55:02,580 --> 04:55:28,740
So if I can direct your attention to subsection and it reads that within 500 feet, and that's the one that deals with farmers markets and SWATmates, but it also says that an area designated for use pursuant to a temporary special permit. So it sounds like if I'm understanding the types of events you're talking about, those might be things for which a temporary special event permit or something of that nature has been issued.

2713
04:55:28,740 --> 04:55:31,220
at which point the five-hundreds-foot would apply.

2714
04:55:32,320 --> 04:55:39,760
So that is on page 19 of 26, and he references in as a Nancy.

2715
04:55:54,300 --> 04:55:55,400
Does that answer your question?

2716
04:55:55,720 --> 04:55:56,240
Don't remember, Bill?

2717
04:55:57,360 --> 04:55:57,480
Yes.

2718
04:55:58,140 --> 04:56:02,840
So I guess then I would just ask council your thoughts on it.

2719
04:56:06,020 --> 04:56:10,200
Because I think that's the only other one that is, I think,

2720
04:56:10,340 --> 04:56:13,760
being brought up by some of our residents.

2721
04:56:14,480 --> 04:56:22,100
Yeah, so it's the number N, which is within 500 feet of any permitted certified

2722
04:56:23,580 --> 04:56:29,300
barms market permitted swap meets or designated area with a temporary special use permit.

2723
04:56:29,820 --> 04:56:35,360
Like for example, the tweeting mile street fair or the azalea festival at the park.

2724
04:56:35,820 --> 04:56:42,720
Any of those permitted events, the car show, you know, and for the council's information.

2725
04:56:42,720 --> 04:56:55,160
And these are three things that are specifically spelled out in SB 946 that the city has the authority to prohibit sidewalk vending within the immediate area surrounding these types of events.

2726
04:56:55,680 --> 04:57:03,460
And they're specifically spelled out by state law as certified farmers markets, special events and permitted swap mates.

2727
04:57:03,460 --> 04:57:22,020
And I think the state's rationale behind that was those types of events already have people who are subject to lots of different regulations already, whether it's because there's certified farmers markets or their permitted swap meets and it would be inappropriate to allow

2728
04:57:23,560 --> 04:57:28,700
sidewalk vendors to come in subject to less regulations at those specific locations.

2729
04:57:28,700 --> 04:57:39,380
So all we're doing is we're just specifically spelling out what state law authorizes that specifically discusses in SB 946 and we're incorporating that into the local law.

2730
04:57:39,640 --> 04:57:46,180
And again, that is also something that we're not changing that already currently exists in our current municipal code.

2731
04:57:46,740 --> 04:57:49,340
We're just switching section numbers for it.

2732
04:58:03,830 --> 04:58:09,830
would now be an appropriate time to entertain a motion to adopt the ordinance as

2733
04:58:09,830 --> 04:58:14,310
amended, introduce the ordinance. Thank you. As amended, I'll

2734
04:58:18,700 --> 04:58:19,220
make that motion.

2735
04:58:22,690 --> 04:58:22,930
Second.

2736
04:58:24,370 --> 04:58:25,570
Council member Varron.

2737
04:58:27,110 --> 04:58:27,370
Yes.

2738
04:58:27,750 --> 04:58:28,550
Council member Davila.

2739
04:58:29,670 --> 04:58:30,390
Council member Teos.

2740
04:58:34,830 --> 04:58:38,090
I'm working with my colleagues. I'll go ahead. I'll go. Yes.

2741
04:58:46,540 --> 04:58:47,060
Thank

2742
04:58:50,610 --> 04:58:59,950
you Madam City clerk and again I just want to thank the audience that was in council chambers as well as everyone that is still on zoom.

2743
04:59:03,010 --> 04:59:07,270
Again, we need to follow state mandates with

2744
04:59:09,700 --> 04:59:11,320
that is their emotion to adjourn.

2745
04:59:11,320 --> 04:59:14,480
If I could just add, I know it's late, but I do want to give you guys credit.

2746
04:59:15,080 --> 04:59:22,020
I did think that tonight you heard themes of concerns, and you have modified the

2747
04:59:22,020 --> 04:59:29,000
proposed ordinance to address that, so whoever may be listening still at this hour.

2748
04:59:30,800 --> 04:59:39,640
You did, you know, I do want to point that out that concerns were heard by the council and

2749
04:59:39,640 --> 04:59:48,000
address process as represented by the three motions to amend its ordinance from that process.

2750
04:59:48,560 --> 04:59:58,640
Plus, we have heard and talked about how do we make it a process where we can educate potential applicants.

2751
04:59:58,640 --> 04:59:59,960
and so...

2752
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:29,460
We will be working on that, and hopefully, we may have a draft of that type of brochure ready by the time we talk about this again, but I just want to give you guys some credit. You did hear many of the things that were being conveyed tonight, and hopefully, you know, that doesn't go without saying from that. So, thank you. And I do want to give a shout out again to the police department. I think they did a wonderful job.

2753
05:00:29,460 --> 05:00:32,900
of handling which is always a difficult situation.

2754
05:00:36,620 --> 05:00:39,780
No, I just want to say thank you to staff, thank my colleagues.

2755
05:00:40,320 --> 05:00:44,320
I think what I learned so much about this in this process, we have spent a lot of hours

2756
05:00:44,320 --> 05:00:50,740
on this issue today and previously and it's not an easy issue to deal with and I just want

2757
05:00:50,740 --> 05:00:57,800
to thank everybody that has comments and shared their views and let's move forward.

2758
05:00:57,800 --> 05:01:07,510
So motion to adjourn, so move that 1031. Thank you, Madam City Clerk, can I take