[0:02] I'd like to call to order the August
24th, 2026 regular city council meeting.
[0:06] If you'll please stand for the pledge of
>> allegiance.
[0:10] Allegiance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic
[0:15] for which it stands, one nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and
[0:21] justice for all.
[0:27] » [clears throat]
[0:31] » City Clerk Deon, let the roll call show
everyone is present this evening and
[0:36] we'll move on to approval of the minutes
for the August 10th city council
[0:40] meeting. Council member Bogurt
>> like to make a motion to approve the
[0:44] minutes as presented.
>> I'll support.
[0:46] » Motion is second. Any further discussion
regarding the minutes? All those in
[0:51] favor, please say I.
>> I opposed.
[0:54] » Thank you very much. Motion carries. So,
we have no bills for this evening.
[1:00] So, we'll move on to approval of
tonight's agenda.
[1:05] » Council member Hansen.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'll move the
[1:07] agenda as presented. Support.
>> Motion in a second. Any further
[1:12] discussion regarding tonight's agenda?
>> All those in favor, please say I. I.
[1:17] » Opposed.
>> Thank you.
[1:21] At this point, we will open the floor
for public comment. Those wishing to
[1:25] address the council are are welcome to
do so. Please come to the podium, state
[1:29] your name and address for the city
clerk. You have a two-minute time frame
[1:32] within which to do that. And uh it is
just note that it is one-way discussion.
[1:48] Good evening, council. Uh my name is
Rosie Macintosh and I live at 408
[1:52] Washington um street and uh there's
going to be a discussion tonight about
[1:58] the housing commission. Um I'm concerned
about the commission itself. It's pretty
[2:03] much dissolved itself with everybody um
walking away and I'm the only one left
[2:11] on the commission. I just started the
commission so I'm not really, you know,
[2:17] aware of everything that is going on or
should be going on. Um, so how are we
[2:23] going to address that and get to the
point where we have five members on that
[2:29] committee? Again, how does that work?
>> As I mentioned at the start, this is
[2:34] going to be a one-way discussion for you
to convey your concerns. uh if the city
[2:39] manager has something to say later on,
he may weigh in on that, but there's no
[2:43] discussion going to take place with
regard to that concern at this point.
[2:48] » Okay. Um so then you can't answer
whether or not that property has been
[2:52] sold.
>> The council the council cannot do that.
[2:54] As I said, the city manager may discuss
plans to replace the missing uh members
[3:01] at a later point in this meeting.
>> Okay. Tonight
[3:06] » if he has something to add. Okay.
>> Okay. Thank you'all.
[3:10] » You bet.
[3:21] » Hello. My name is Julie Lynn Gibbons.
I'm a resident.
[3:25] Um earlier today, I sent you an email in
regard to the city's flock contract.
[3:32] I understand that [clears throat] it's
coming up in the renewal for renewal in
[3:36] the coming months. Um, and I just want
to highlight a couple things from my
[3:40] email.
The ACLU has determined that that less
[3:45] than 1% of all vehicles scanned by Flock
are involved in crimes. Automatic
[3:51] license plate readers, ALPRs, have been
deemed a violation of privacy and an
[3:56] opportunity for those who use them to
abuse their power.
[4:00] There are also real concerns that ALPRs
violate the fourth amendment of our
[4:03] constitution.
Multiple communities across Metro
[4:07] Detroit are cancelling their ALPR
contacts because of these very issues. I
[4:13] would urge that South Lion you do your
diligence in researching this issue, why
[4:18] it matters, why so many people are upset
about these contracts
[4:23] and cancel it or at the very least do
not renew it when it comes up in
[4:27] October. I have also submitted for your
consideration
[4:31] resolution language that would require
the city to put in place safeguards
[4:37] before undertaking any future ALPR
contracts with any vendor. I don't
[4:42] believe that there's any reason or need
for us to have a mass surveillance state
[4:49] and I think we need to consider the
desires of our residents above desires
[4:56] for what could be
um in terms of safety. Thank you.
[5:02] » Thank you very much.
[5:12] Hi there. Uh my name is Vanessa Torres.
I uh am also a resident. I'm here to
[5:16] speak on the same issue that Julie Lynn
was up here for. Um, I actually did not
[5:21] realize that South Lion had a flock
contract until uh the Oakland County
[5:26] Commissioners started to uh speak about
or started to consider the uh flock
[5:32] drone uh contracts and started to look
into that more and realized of course
[5:36] that there was one in place. Um I can't
disclose who I work for but I work in IT
[5:41] have worked in IT for a long time. um it
and just tech marketing and um the uh
[5:48] the model in my opinion that Flock and a
lot of other companies that are similar
[5:52] in sort of um offering this kind of
technology to anyone and everyone who
[5:59] might be willing sometimes at a better
rate than you might be able to get
[6:02] otherwise. Um, we talk in marketing
about if uh if the product is free, and
[6:08] in this case the product is discounted,
you're you're the product. Um, and the
[6:12] data that they're sucking up by testing
this out on our streets is uh is really
[6:17] what we're giving them for free in
exchange for our lack of privacy rights.
[6:22] Uh, I would urge you again in October um
to not renew that contract. and whether
[6:28] it's through the proposal that that was
just uh provided I guess by email or
[6:33] some other means uh start to get ahead
of um these types of uh technologies and
[6:40] put something down that the city can
have a policy to follow when the next
[6:43] thing that's not flock but kind of flock
comes into play. So, thank you very
[6:47] much. I appreciate it.
>> Thank you.
[6:50] » Point of order, Mr. Mayor.
>> Council member Curtzwell.
[6:53] » Thank you. Uh the two individuals that
provided uh public comment did not
[6:57] provide their addresses. Could we have
those on the record?
[7:02] » We actually don't have to provide
addresses.
[7:07] » Okay.
[7:15] At this point, we'll close public
comment and move on to approval of
[7:18] tonight's consent agenda.
And on tonight's consent agenda, we have
[7:23] u a resignation from housing
commissioner Linda Benson and a
[7:28] resignation from housing commissioner
Steven Syler, as well as some additional
[7:33] soft road closures for Pumpkinfest.
[7:39] Council member Popa,
[7:46] » do you want me to go individually?
>> Motion to approve the consent agenda.
[7:49] Motion to approve the consent agenda.
>> I'll support.
[7:53] » Motion has a second. Any further
discussion on the consent agenda?
[7:57] All those in favor, please say I.
>> I.
[7:59] » Opposed.
>> Thank you. Move on to discussion of
[8:03] downtown and uh tonight we'll have the
city manager address this topic.
[8:08] » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um had a meeting
with uh former DDA director Kim Rivera.
[8:14] um she did leave us a list of what's uh
needs to be attended to um contacts um
[8:21] and things that we did need moving
forward so we're all on the same page.
[8:25] So the transition will hopefully be as
seamless as possible. Good news is we
[8:30] now have 12 uh applications uh for the
DDA uh director's position and we will
[8:37] we've already discussed about having a
committee together. So once we once uh
[8:41] we're done with the uh the the date is
uh September 8th is the last day of for
[8:47] them to get their application is once
that once we hit September 9th we'll go
[8:51] ahead and start looking at them weening
through them and uh start the process uh
[8:55] for hiring
and that's what I've got so far.
[9:00] » Very well. Do we have any questions
regarding the downtown discussion this
[9:04] evening?
Council member Bogurt,
[9:08] » is the uh Thursday after hours event
going to happen next week
[9:14] » or this week? Actually,
>> is it if it's still scheduled then yes,
[9:19] we're going to we're planning on having
that. Um nothing's changed as far as
[9:24] that goes. We just want to make sure
that once and if there's any issues. Kim
[9:28] always said that we'll just go ahead and
give her a call and she'll help out. Um
[9:32] but um nothing as far as when you when
you see your um your reports that
[9:37] they'll be the same and I'll let you
know if there's any changes on it. Thank
[9:40] you.
>> Y
[9:42] » thank you very much. This point we'll go
to the fire chief's report with Chief
[9:47] Conrad this evening.
>> Good evening Mr. Mayor. Council, I'm
[9:53] going to start out by reporting our
numbers since last council meeting.
[9:57] We're at 98 calls for the year so far.
uh 50 incidents since last council
[10:03] meeting. We had 38 EMS calls, six public
service, one vehicle fire, which I'm
[10:09] sure everybody's seen on Facebook. Uh
one hazardous condition, and four false
[10:15] alarms. [clears throat and cough]
Uh we had our state EMS inspection this
[10:19] morning with zero deficiencies.
And the second phase of our cement got
[10:24] finished this morning and we'll be able
to drive on it in five days and it's
[10:27] looking beautiful. Uh Mac Concrete
demolition was amazing. They stayed on
[10:33] on schedule and the the work looks
great.
[10:40] » That's it.
>> Okay. Any questions for Chief Conrad
[10:43] this evening? Council member Squires.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I was just going
[10:46] to comment that I did drive past the
fire department the other day and what
[10:51] an improvement that concrete
>> y
[10:53] » you I didn't really realize how bad it
looked until I saw it nice and smooth.
[10:59] So, just thank you for heading that up.
>> Thank you. And I like that there was
[11:03] minimal disruption to the road. I know
there was concerns from from residents
[11:06] that the road would be closed,
>> but these guys did a fantastic job
[11:10] getting in, getting out.
>> Council member Curtzwell,
[11:15] » I want to thank you for the incredible
response to the uh fire.
[11:20] » Um I I saw it on Saturday. It was about
20 after 4 and um you know 9M and
[11:28] Pontiac Trail which has always been an
issue with this construction was so
[11:33] backed up you couldn't move. I mean it
was um I think by the time you probably
[11:37] got there you probably saw the
congestion. Yeah.
[11:40] » Um it was it was almost out of control
and needed uh first responders in just
[11:46] to get the traffic under control because
I think at that time people didn't know
[11:49] whether there was going to be a further
explosion. I mean, that's what I think
[11:52] people were concerned about, right?
>> So, I just want to say thank you. The
[11:56] fire department instilled so much
confidence um in the people. Uh I know
[12:01] people that were there and they said it
was incredible the job. Uh you could see
[12:05] the black tower. It was unbelievable the
smoke. So, you did a great job, great
[12:10] response, and it's clear that, you know,
you're just dealing with a very
[12:13] professional department. So, thank you.
>> Thank you. Appreciate that.
[12:16] » Thanks.
[12:19] » Very well. Thank you very much, Chief.
Move on to the police chief's report
[12:23] this evening with Chief Enrew.
[12:29] » Good evening, Mr. Mayor, Council. So,
this past Thursday, you may have seen a
[12:35] uh extraordinary amount of police cars
in downtown South Lion. Uh that was due
[12:41] to us receiving a anonymous tip that
there was going to be a teen takeover
[12:46] regarding ebikes at the South Lion uh
cycle shop.
[12:51] Fortunately, um the takeover did not
occur. We believe part of it was there
[12:56] was a post on Facebook uh saying that
there was extra police patrols downtown.
[13:02] I'm happy to report that our ebike uh
has uh 220 miles on it. So, it's getting
[13:09] used and that's not counting the
mountain bike that we also have uh that
[13:14] the officers are riding.
So, it was a good purchase. is getting
[13:18] used and we're getting a lot of
compliments.
[13:23] » Any questions for Chief Andrew? Council
member Bogart.
[13:26] » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, just wanted to
say that I hadn't been on the bike trail
[13:30] for a while, so I was there last week
and saw the new signage and it looks
[13:35] great. The instructions are really clear
as to who can be on the trail and who
[13:39] can't and what the limits are.
>> Council member Kurtzwell.
[13:45] » Thank you. Uh, several points. Uh number
one, I just want to let you know that I
[13:50] have received um a lot of positive
feedback about the uh flock policy
[13:57] that's on the police website and uh
people are just absolutely amazed that
[14:02] our uh city has gone forward and have
have been very very proactive with our
[14:08] policy. So, I want to let you know and
these were people that were um sitting
[14:12] on the fence kind of anti-flock people
and once they read the policy they they
[14:16] said, "Okay, I get it." So, um I just
want to thank you for that because it's
[14:20] being extremely extremely well received.
Um, additionally, there are residents in
[14:25] the city that have contacted me and and
said that uh they are definitely in
[14:29] favor of, you know, so I know there's
two sides to every argument. So, we have
[14:33] to balance, you know, uh this argument
versus that argument. But um I haven't
[14:37] seen from the US Supreme Court yet where
uh a flack camera has been um denied or
[14:43] ruled um against the Fourth Amendment. I
think that's an argument that they make,
[14:47] but I haven't seen actually seen the
case law on it. In fact, Michigan
[14:51] actually has a court case that um
doesn't question the use of the flax
[14:55] system in terms of the camera being
present. It's how the data is being
[14:58] used. And I think you are addressing the
court cases uh with respect to how the
[15:03] data is being used. And I think once
people see that, they understand that.
[15:07] So, I want to thank you for your
incredible um attention to those details
[15:11] because that means a lot to this
community. I think that's why we're
[15:14] safe. Um one of the reasons um funding
the police is why we're a safe
[15:18] community. Speaking of funding the
police, um I also heard um about the
[15:23] situation uh downtown with the um uh
teen takeover. And that's the difference
[15:28] maybe between South Lion, who funds the
police and provides our police
[15:32] department with as many tools as
possible, and cities like maybe Detroit
[15:36] or other cities, LA, where the teen
takeovers have uh not only um disrupted
[15:43] business, but they have uh destroyed
property. They've gone in and ravaged
[15:48] and stolen. And [clears throat] um
basically um from what I understand,
[15:52] three businesses in Detroit will be
closing uh because the police department
[15:56] was not responsive. So we have a choice
in the city. Uh we either fund our
[16:01] police and give them the tools that they
need to keep this a safe comm community
[16:05] so that our business can continue to
operate, not have their windows broken
[16:09] and their merchandise stolen out of
their businesses. Or we can end up like
[16:12] Detroit and have the businesses leave.
So we have a choice. And I think the
[16:16] residents in the city, I know what side
they're going to stand on when it comes
[16:19] to that choice. The last point, I was in
Wixom
[16:23] today. I do a lot of traveling. I talked
to a lot of people. And um what did I
[16:29] see? I saw uh uh the new thing that's
probably coming to South Line. Just
[16:33] wanted to put you on notice. And that
notice is is it was a unicycle
[16:39] that was motorized. The kid was not
pedaling. Basically was not using his
[16:44] own power. He was weaving in and out of
traffic and it was on Pontiac Trail in
[16:48] Old Wixom Road. He was literally in the
street, had no helmet and uh he was
[16:54] racing. So be aware the unicycles are
coming
[16:59] » today. Thank Thank you, council member.
Anyone else?
[17:04] » Council member Dog.
>> Thank you. Um, I know we discussed the
[17:07] flat cameras uh last week and I did um
look at the transparency on the website.
[17:15] I was just wondering is it is it
accurate that it is uh that we're up for
[17:20] renewal in October and will that come in
front of us or is it a
[17:24] » So that would probably be more for the
city manager to answer. Um,
[17:32] » I'll have to I'll look at the uh terms
of the expiration of the contract and uh
[17:36] I can get back with you on it.
>> Okay. Thank you so much. That's all.
[17:40] » Thanks. [clears throat]
>> Thank you, Council Member Dill.
[17:43] So, the um in regard to the email that
was sent to the city uh made mention of
[17:50] 55
communities that have stopped using the
[17:54] flock cameras. That's out of 6 to 7,000
that use them. across the country.
[17:59] » So that's less than 1%. Just sharing the
data. Council member Curtzwell.
[18:06] » Thank you. Um it's my understanding I
have a friend that works in IT um and um
[18:12] has followed the uh Flax systems and her
and I were talking I think about two
[18:16] weeks ago. She said that Flock was
getting ready to make an announcement
[18:20] that um and she was clearly in favor of
it um uh of reducing the data hold time
[18:27] from 30 days to 7 days. Are you aware of
that?
[18:30] » I am aware of that and there is a
meeting coming up this week um that I
[18:35] have uh an online
um webinar um so that I can learn more
[18:41] about that.
>> Yeah, that's what she thought too. She I
[18:44] mean she's in favor of it. uh she said
she likes the reduction of time. She
[18:47] thought that was very reasonable. So I
just wanted to verify with you. Okay.
[18:52] Thank you.
>> Yes.
[18:53] » Thank you, council member. Council
member Popa.
[18:56] » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um so I would
point out with the what we're hearing
[19:01] about the possible reduction in time of
holding the data.
[19:07] Say there was an investigation and that
data had to go back and be retrieved.
[19:11] Would that still be do you know if that
would still be available or is it only
[19:15] available for 7 days
>> unless from what I've read unless you
[19:20] know that you have an investigation you
need to save data you could tell them
[19:24] like I need to save this seven days.
>> Okay. So,
[19:28] » but somebody's not always found missing
>> right
[19:32] » within seven days where you need to go
back and look. That's that was the
[19:36] thought I had and now that we're
discussing it, I just wanted it to be on
[19:39] record to voice that thought. If there
was an emergency or a reason for the
[19:45] data to be retrieved for a missing
whomever, be it child, endangered adult,
[19:50] etc. My concern would be that the data
wouldn't be available. That that's just
[19:55] my thought. Certainly, we we don't know
what we don't know. So, I guess we don't
[19:59] need to get into the in-depth
discussion, but maybe that's something
[20:03] to just keep in mind, which I'm sure
you've already thought of. Um, so,
[20:07] » so I do recognize that there are some
scary things about these license plate
[20:12] readers, but I've done everything,
including put up a transparency portal
[20:17] on our website
>> to show what we're searching, who we're
[20:21] sharing with, who's sharing with us.
>> Yep. And you know certainly there's been
[20:26] a lot of reports around the country
about misuse. Now in South Lion I do
[20:31] have um like I said last week
administrative sergeant who's doing
[20:34] audits and everybody that runs somebody
on uh the flock has to write a police
[20:42] report. It's not just uh I I feel like
running something. You have to document
[20:47] why you ran it. You have to put it the
description in. And if you look on the
[20:50] transparency portal, it does list the
reasons why plates are being searched.
[20:57] » Okay. Now, can I go one step further
with with regards to that since it's the
[21:01] topic?
If if there was a report made by one of
[21:05] our officers, okay, fine. Now, it's
logged and everything. Could someone
[21:09] from another city access that plate? Do
you know what I'm saying? like for the
[21:17] the chatter out there is that it's it's
potentially being misused or has the
[21:22] potential to be misused. So, could
someone from a different municipality
[21:26] access someone's plate in South Lion or
is it just South Lion that can access
[21:32] that or do we even know?
>> They would have to know the plate prior
[21:35] to accessing the South Lion and in our
policy.
[21:38] » But then that's all part of the policy.
It's all part of the policy that they
[21:42] have to
>> okay
[21:43] » have the same safeguards that we do and
certainly we have a discipline policy
[21:47] just like with the law enforcement
information
[21:50] » if you violate that I mean there's
discipline up to termination same with
[21:54] the flock camera usage.
>> Okay.
[21:57] » I mean I public trust is just so
important in law enforcement.
[22:02] » Absolutely. And I mean this this cell
phone here knows more about me and my
[22:06] family than uh I think a camera would.
But thank you very much,
[22:12] » Council Member Kurtzwell.
>> Just two more issues on that. I just
[22:15] want to make sure people understand
because there's a lot of misinformation
[22:18] by the antilack people. Um they don't
quite get their facts straight. Maybe
[22:23] other cities do. But in South Lion, our
policy, we do not share with the federal
[22:29] government. Is that correct?
>> That's correct.
[22:31] » Okay. That that's an important fact
because there's a lot of people out
[22:34] there that uh don't get that information
correct.
[22:37] um or maybe they do understand it and
they deliberately pass out that
[22:42] misinformation, but I just want to make
sure um everybody understands. We don't
[22:46] share with the federal government. Um
that includes ICE. Correct.
[22:50] » Correct. We have uh on our website for
the transparency portal who we share
[22:55] with.
>> I know, but there's people that don't
[22:57] read the portal, don't read the policy,
and they go out there with their agenda
[23:01] » and uh think they know it all and they
don't read South Lion's policy. And so,
[23:06] you know, that's where the
misinformation comes from. The second
[23:09] question is, is um information that is
on the flax system foyable?
[23:16] » It can be.
>> Okay. So, if I fill out a FOYA and I
[23:20] want to look at it, um you do you have a
process in place for people if they want
[23:27] to foyer that information? It's my
understanding you can only foyer what
[23:30] you think belongs to you. You can't
foyer somebody else's um license plate.
[23:37] » Um there's certain information you could
get um off of it, but unless they have
[23:43] the ability to run lean, they just
having a license plate number would not
[23:48] give you
>> That's what I thought. You can't just go
[23:50] and say
>> unless they Yeah. I don't know what
[23:52] Secretary of State would give you. I've
never gone there to ask them to run a
[23:56] plate as a private citizen.
>> Okay. Okay. But just like with lean,
[24:02] there there is an audit trail. When you
run someone's plate, when you run a
[24:06] person, you know, it's it's not an
anonymous thing. And yes, law
[24:12] enforcement officers have been getting
in trouble and disciplined and
[24:15] terminated. You know, I've been police
officers since 1990, and
[24:22] they have
you used lean wrong, and they have
[24:26] gotten in trouble for it. So, this isn't
anything new.
[24:31] Well, just just to put it on the record
for me, if the flax system is is being
[24:35] abused and not used properly according
to the policy, I I would not be in favor
[24:40] of continuing the flax system. As long
as the policy is followed and there's no
[24:45] abuse in it, then I don't have a problem
with it in here. I mean,
[24:50] » yeah. And our officers know that we do
audits and you know, certainly if
[24:54] they're misusing it, it would come up in
an audit. I mean, you can't walk into a
[24:59] Meyers or a bank or a doughnut shop or a
grocery store or a gas station and have
[25:05] a digital exposure of your face. You're
being you're being filmed wherever you
[25:09] go. This is a license plate.
>> I don't get it.
[25:13] » And pretty soon, um, coming this week,
every officer will be getting a body
[25:18] worn camera. So, we will be everything
we do is going to be on camera.
[25:26] » Good for you. support that. Okay.
>> Very well. Thank you very much, Chief.
[25:35] » Tonight, we have an update from uh our
water and wastewater superintendent, Mr.
[25:39] Ron Bon, regarding the equipment issues
the city has been experiencing.
[25:45] » Good evening, council, Mr. Mayor. Um I
do have uh a couple of ongoing issues
[25:51] that I would like to brief the council
on tonight. Um, something new here is
[25:57] the uh well number six. On Wednesday,
August 19th, I received a call from
[26:04] Michigan Seamless Tube MST
uh stating that they did not have the
[26:09] water flow or pressure to sustain
current operations.
[26:14] So, I immediately uh went to well six,
which is an offset well. It was drilled
[26:19] in 2011. Uh it's located in Mcatty Park
and feeds the uh MST or supplies MST
[26:28] with untreated water for their process.
Uh after arriving at well six uh I
[26:35] noticed that uh it was only producing
approximately 240 gallons per minute at
[26:41] 60 hertz and at 28 PSI. Um it is rated
at 1,200 gallons per minute at 60 hertz
[26:49] at 60 psi. So the well is failing.
Um this uh inadequate supply of water uh
[26:58] does not meet MST's demands and uh
requires immediate attention.
[27:05] Currently MST is temporarily connected
to a hydrant located in the northwest
[27:10] corner of their property uh which is
supplying the plant with treated water
[27:15] through a 4 in uh hose running through
the plant.
[27:20] I've contacted Peerless. They are
scheduled Peerless Midwest. They're well
[27:23] drillers. Uh they maintain our wells and
pumps. uh and they are scheduled to be
[27:28] on site tomorrow um August 25th to pull
the pump and start the cleaning process.
[27:36] The pump replacement and cleaning is
scheduled uh to be completed within two
[27:41] and a half weeks at a cost of
approximately $60,000.
[27:45] Right now, uh the team of operators
continue to uh closely monitor uh our
[27:52] water system to ensure that all the
water demands are being met.
[27:58] Any questions on that issue? I have
[28:04] » council member Bogurt.
>> Um do we have reserve capacity on on the
[28:08] other wells?
the reserve capacity, the capacity is
[28:13] coming from our um ground storage tank,
okay? Which
[28:18] » is 600,000 gallons. So MST uses
approximately 300,000 gallons a day. Uh
[28:27] upwards of 300 gallons per minute at
times. Um they recirculate a lot of uh
[28:34] of their water now. So, um, we are
maintaining right now with the
[28:38] 600,000galon tank.
>> So, it's kind of a double whammy with
[28:42] our milliongalon tank being offline.
>> Absolutely.
[28:46] » Okay. Thank you.
>> And they've scaled back operations to uh
[28:52] » they have scaled. Yes. Yep. They have
scaled back operations and uh they know
[28:58] the the peak demands that the city has
and they're working around those
[29:02] demands. So, uh, they're not filling
their tanks, um, or filling their
[29:07] recirculation system.
>> And you may have this in the second part
[29:11] of your presentation, but this
emphasizes the need to adhere to the odd
[29:16] even lawn irrigation request notice that
went out back in mid July. And that's
[29:22] part of the reason for it is to keep
that level at an acceptable level in the
[29:26] ground storage tank so that we can
satisfy the needs of not only the
[29:30] residents but now MST at this particular
point. Correct.
[29:33] » Until the well is repaired uh andor the
repair is made on the U ground storage
[29:39] tank. Is that correct?
>> That is correct.
[29:44] » Council member Curtzwell.
Well, uh, what is your theory as to
[29:50] what happened here?
>> Do you have a theory?
[29:53] » I do have a theory. Um, I can give you
some background if you'd like. Uh, well
[29:59] number six was previously well number
three back in 2011. It was drilled just
[30:05] outside uh the existing well three. Um,
that was in 2011. They rebuilt and
[30:12] refurbished the pump and the motor from
well three. Well three probably dates
[30:18] back to the 60s and they put it in well
number which is now well number six. So
[30:25] as far as I can tell the pump and the
motor have not been rebuilt or
[30:32] rehabilitated. Now in 2019 that well was
cleaned. It was cleaned with the well
[30:39] and pump in place. So if that can be
done and it's done in in situations like
[30:43] we have with the tube mill, they need
constant water to feed their process. So
[30:48] we had no way to uh actually turn that
well off for a long period of time.
[30:55] It doesn't do the greatest job, but at
that point in time it did. It brought up
[30:59] the levels and the the gallons per
minute were uh back to their normal
[31:03] 1,200 gallons in 2019.
2022
[31:08] um it was still pumping but we saw a
decrease a 38% decrease in the
[31:16] withdrawal. So the when the pump turns
on the level of that um aquifer will
[31:23] drop and we saw that drop 38%. That's an
indication of uh that well screen or
[31:30] well um needing to be cleaned. the
screen probably is getting plugged.
[31:37] It's It's unusual. We us Peerless
Midwest does all of our um preventative
[31:42] maintenance uh and flow testing. We have
it done every year on all of our pumps.
[31:48] That's five uh high ser or five low
service, four high service, and four
[31:55] wells. Uh that including um well number
six. Well, number six because it needs
[32:02] to uh to supply the water to the tube
mill is not done every year.
[32:10] They don't have a secondary uh supply of
water at this point. So, in order to
[32:17] clean that well effectively and uh we
have to come up with a secondary um
[32:24] water supply and that's what they did in
this case. It was an emergency. They uh
[32:28] hooked up to a hydrant. They uh rented
some uh piping and they bought a uh
[32:35] backflow pre all in place. And we did
that within uh it happened on Wednesday.
[32:41] We are ready to go Friday. Uh initially
we were not going to switch them over
[32:46] till Monday. Uh we had a fault at the
well on Saturday. Uh they were ready to
[32:52] go. So at that point I said let's just
do it. and we've been uh running uh with
[32:57] them using our treated water since
Saturday.
[33:03] » So, they're using treated water now.
>> They are using treated water.
[33:07] » Uh you know what my next question is?
Are they being built for treated water?
[33:11] » They they uh not at this point. Right
now, I'm focusing on let's get these
[33:15] guys uh yeah, let's get our well back
in. Let's get it running and then we'll
[33:20] have that discussion at a later date.
>> That's a lot of treated water. It is a
[33:24] lot of treated water. They they do uh
they get build for untreated water right
[33:29] now, but um yeah, let's let's focus on
on um getting that well rebuilt and and
[33:38] back up and running.
>> Well, does the treated water affect
[33:41] their chemical processes over there?
>> Yeah, apparently not. [laughter]
[33:46] » Okay. Because you sure don't want that
liability coming back on the city
[33:49] because you're now providing
>> They're aware of that. they're aware of
[33:52] the treatment that we do and uh
>> yeah
[33:57] they at this point we don't have a
choice so it's it's treated water
[34:03] » one of the things that I heard uh in
discussions with the city manager is
[34:07] you're once the um the pump is replaced
the new pump is down the hole the
[34:12] casing's been cleaned out and the rest
of that we're going to look at uh
[34:16] something longterm as far as providing
that secondary connection so that we can
[34:21] maintain a more rigorous preventive
maintenance schedule for this thing
[34:24] going forward.
>> That's correct. There's been there's
[34:26] been talk between the city and uh MST
for years now and yes I think this is
[34:32] the what they needed a little eye
openener we can get that secondary uh
[34:37] supply line um where we won't have to
worry about uh
[34:41] » at least this portion of it anyway.
Okay. Any other questions for water
[34:48] wastewater superintendent? Council
member Hansen.
[34:50] » Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, so
the cleaning of the pump and and getting
[34:56] it fixed up, that should fix the issue.
There's there's no chance that maybe the
[35:00] well is need to be redrilled or anything
like that.
[35:03] » No, the aquifer seems to be I mean, we
have well seven within 200 feet and then
[35:07] well eight is within another 250 ft. So,
the aquafer Yes, it's I don't think it's
[35:13] a issue with that. I think it's an issue
with actually um the screen probably is
[35:18] plugged. Um just that pump runs 24/7 365
days a year. It never shuts off. Uh it's
[35:27] on a VFD which allows it to uh ramp up
and ramp down according to the flow or
[35:33] the PSI they need. But that pump never
shuts off. So,
[35:38] » okay,
>> it's time it's time to Yeah. to rebuild
[35:41] that pump, get it a good cleaning, and
put get it back in service.
[35:46] » Yeah, I definitely like the idea of
having a conversation, especially with
[35:49] MST, to see if we can coordinate with
them as far as giving the pump that
[35:54] needed maintenance like you were
describing. So, yeah,
[35:57] » it's in the works.
>> No. Great. Thank you, Council Member
[36:01] Squires.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Ron, I'd like to
[36:04] see you come here with some good news.
Um, [laughter]
[36:07] » sorry. too.
>> Do you think cutting the watering to odd
[36:13] even days is going is enough to keep us
>> right right now? Yes. Mother nature's
[36:20] been nice to to us. I know the rain
helps tremendously. So, just the rain
[36:26] that we had um we saw a drop in demand
and and probably will for next couple of
[36:32] days. The cool weather, the cool nights,
it all all contributes to that. um
[36:37] lowering that demand of water. So, I
know it's supposed to rain again
[36:41] Wednesday. Just keep our fingers crossed
that, you know, we need at least two
[36:46] weeks, two and a half weeks to get this
thing uh up and running again.
[36:52] » Thank you.
[36:55] » Very good. Anything else uh tonight?
>> Well, if you want some more bad news.
[36:59] » Sure. We're up for it.
Uh preload has completed their
[37:05] inspection and assessment of the 1
million gallon tank. Uh it took three
[37:09] days. Uh they did go inside and did
inspection and uh they did the outside
[37:15] inspection.
So their preliminary findings are as
[37:20] follows.
They found corroded and/or missing
[37:24] pieces of the pre-stressed wire. And
that begins at the pyaster with the
[37:31] vertical crack and it moves um
to the left to the next pile. So that's
[37:39] 25 ft. That's a huge area. Mhm.
>> Um so they do these test little bores
[37:45] inside and they notice that the
corrosion is from one end to the other
[37:49] to between those pillisters about 25 ft.
So um obviously that's not good news. Um
[37:57] they also uh going to the east from that
pillister with the vertical crack to the
[38:05] next pillister. They also noticed
corrosion on the top four feet. um
[38:11] all the way to that next pillar
pillister. So that's uh 25 ft going to
[38:17] the east. [clears throat]
Um they also inside they they inspected
[38:22] the inside and um they found a crack uh
between the two. I I know we had
[38:29] pictures of the cracks that looked like
they were filled, but there was another
[38:33] one uh in between those two. And that
lines up pretty much where the water was
[38:40] leaking out of the side of the ground
storage tank. So we we think we found
[38:45] the leak. Uh the root cause um obviously
those pre pre-tress prestressed wire
[38:53] cables not uh being uh or being corroded
um
[39:01] basically caused a zipper effect. it
looks like on that one side where it's
[39:06] just starting to open up. Um
that being said, there's always a fix
[39:12] and that's what these guys do. Uh I have
confidence that uh the the engineers
[39:18] that were out, structural engineers will
come back with a plan that will satisfy
[39:25] hopefully all of us. Um obviously we
don't want to make this mistake again.
[39:30] Uh, we want this thing to last, you
know, until I retire
[39:35] [laughter] at least,
[39:39] 20 years or more. [laughter]
[39:44] Yeah, that that's all I have from them.
I I hope to hear from them next week. Uh
[39:49] once I hear from them, uh we'll sit
down. We'll have to have this discussion
[39:54] uh amongst all of us. We want to make
sure we make that decision, an educated
[39:58] decision that uh will last for
for a long period of time.
[40:05] » Well, we certainly appreciate you
keeping uh close tabs on it, Brown. It's
[40:09] uh
really obviously disconcerting.
[40:14] So, we'll see what the the experts have
as far as potential repair options.
[40:19] » Yep. We'll know soon.
Council member Hansen,
[40:22] » just just a quick followup in regards to
that uh news. Um have have they given
[40:27] you any inkling as far as if there is a
repair option if it can be done during
[40:32] the winter months? That's
>> there are repair options. Um and uh it's
[40:37] basically
pre-stressing
[40:41] at least that section
>> and there are ways to do that. Um again
[40:48] it'll be a discussion um that we'll have
to and a decision we'll have to make on
[40:54] whether we want to repair it
or some other option. Um but there is
[41:04] there is a way to do it. So basically
right now um we can't fill it with any
[41:10] water. Um
but he didn't condemn it which is very
[41:15] good. So,
>> okay. Thank you,
[41:17] » Council Member Bogurt.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, was there any
[41:22] um
discussion of the possibility of
[41:25] negligence on the previous maintenance
work?
[41:29] » Again, uh my job is to focus on getting
that back in service. Um that can be a
[41:37] discussion later on um once uh the
structural engineers come back with a
[41:43] game plan. Um, and with the results of
all their findings, then we can look at
[41:49] that. But I need to focus on on getting
this tank in operational and well six
[41:55] operational.
>> Understandable. Thank you, Council
[41:59] Member Kurtzwell.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, a couple of
[42:02] quick questions. Uh, you said that the
second pillar piler.
[42:08] » Yeah, the Highasters
um
[42:10] » about 25.
>> Those are those columns on the outside.
[42:13] Yeah,
>> the 25 ft. Is there the same kind of
[42:17] issue beginning to develop on that
second one
[42:20] » up up uh close to the uh uh close to the
roof? Yes. So, the water has found its
[42:29] least uh path of resistance and it's
following these wires and it's corroding
[42:34] them. And like I said, they they stopped
uh at least on the main pillister with
[42:40] the vertical crack. They they worked
their way down um probably six feet and
[42:45] they stopped at that point because um
there was there was nothing left of half
[42:51] of them. So uh
the other side uh they're worried and
[42:56] concerned obviously about any uh
corrosion on those wires. Uh so they're
[43:01] at least looking at the possibility of
four feet from that uh roof point down.
[43:08] Um like I said u
they said it can be fixed but uh you
[43:14] know
>> how many of those pillisters are on it?
[43:17] » Uh that's a good see one two I would say
[clears throat]
[43:21] eight maybe.
>> Okay. So if this problem of corroding is
[43:27] occurring because water is finding the
least resistance and corroding
[43:32] » yes
>> that then why
[43:35] take that take that fact
>> and apply it to the other pillisters why
[43:40] is it also occurring on that and it just
hasn't surfaced yet
[43:44] » it is so what they do is they drill into
the out gunite and they get to the core
[43:50] they get to where those uh wires,
pre-stress wires are. They've gone to
[43:56] the next pillister on the other side of
that next pillister and they were like
[44:00] brand new. They also did it on the uh
east side going toward uh past that
[44:06] other pillister. So they did test holes
and from what they found, the evidence
[44:11] that they have the corrosion isn't to
that point yet. And he said they look
[44:16] like new and that's they should. So we
know where the area is. It's a large
[44:22] area, but until I see uh a game plan
from them or a plan uh to repair, uh we
[44:29] won't know um anything else. I'm it'll
be a report, a very extensive report. So
[44:38] one more question is then when they went
in and provided their initial diagnosis
[44:46] are were they looking at the problems
that were caused due to prior repairs or
[44:52] are these problems that have developed
because of the initial design itself?
[45:01] it it I I can't tell you that. I'm not
an engineer, but I do know that uh um
[45:08] » I don't think the initial uh structure I
don't think that was the problem. I
[45:13] don't think it was a design issue. Um it
it looks as though that uh some of the
[45:19] repairs failed.
Um, I can tell you that, but other other
[45:25] than I'm speculating whether that was uh
uh the actual root cause or not, but I'm
[45:33] sure it'll be in the report.
>> So, were the repairs made that were
[45:39] consistent with the initial design of
the tank?
[45:44] Are are you asking if it was something I
can tell you preload did not have
[45:50] anything to do with the repairs if
that's what you're asking who
[45:55] » so preload did not approve the possible
repair and that okay
[46:02] » I don't I don't believe so but uh
>> yeah okay
[46:05] » again let's uh let's get a plan of
action let's get this thing fixed if
[46:11] it's fixable and let's get it back in
line and then let's we can worry about
[46:16] uh um those things at a later date.
>> Anyone else?
[46:22] » I got you.
>> Council member Squires,
[46:24] » how do you refill a million gallon tank?
>> Slowly. [laughter]
[46:31] » We we fill it. Uh it'll probably be um
>> Is it part of treated water?
[46:38] » It is the treated water. So, it's not as
simple as just filling that tank.
[46:42] there's certain uh restrictions and
certain guidelines that we have to take
[46:46] in order to fill that tank and uh that's
uh restrictions and guidelines by Eagle
[46:53] and how we fill it. Uh chlorination
um and preload will also have I'm sure
[47:01] uh
>> directions
[47:03] » directions on how to fill that after
it's repaired.
[47:10] » Thank you. Look forward to seeing the
report, Ron.
[47:13] » Thank you.
>> Thank you very much.
[47:19] » We have no unfinished business this
evening, so we will move on to new
[47:22] business.
New business number one is the Lafayette
[47:27] Park furniture, and the city manager
will be handling this discussion. Thank
[47:31] you, uh, Mr. Mr. Mayor, Council. This is
the purchase of the remainder of the
[47:37] furniture for Lafayette Park. Um the
furniture order from GL account
[47:43] 101751978
capital improvements purchasing the
[47:47] furniture directly with Omnia pricing
assures the lowest price for
[47:51] governmental entities in the amount of
36,466,95
[47:58] landscape forms uh furniture who is the
manufacturer
[48:02] uh u of the furniture with the with the
first Lafayette Park furniture order
[48:09] approved on uh June 8th, 2026.
So, this is the second phase of of the
[48:15] purchasing the furniture quotes
obtained. Um
[48:19] 46,000 from City Contracting Services,
67,000 from Spartan Construction Group,
[48:27] 51,999
from Sor's Group, uh Sor's Gross Company
[48:32] LLC.
Attached are quotes from Lafayette Park
[48:36] Furniture. uh bid tabulations from HRC
which includes the the unit pricing of
[48:41] the furniture.
Again, we went with the uh directly to
[48:45] the manufacturer. So, there's actually
four bids if you really want to look at
[48:49] it. Um possible course of action to
approve not approve the purchase of the
[48:53] Lafayette Park Furnace from GL account
101751-978
[48:58] capital improvement.
[49:02] » Council member Vogva.
Motion to approve the purchase of
[49:07] landscape forms quote 468039
total of 36,466.95
[49:16] from GL account 101-751-978
[49:21] capital improvements
>> support.
[49:24] » So a motion from council member Popa a
second from council member Squires. Do
[49:29] we have any questions or discussions
regarding this purchase?
[49:34] » City clerk Deon, if you'll lead us in a
roll call vote for this one, please.
[49:41] » Bogurt,
>> yes.
[49:43] » Dild,
>> yes.
[49:44] » Hansen,
>> yes.
[49:45] » Opa,
>> yes. Hurts,
[49:47] » yes.
>> Squireers,
[49:48] » yes.
>> Kennedy,
[49:50] » yes. Motion carries.
Thank you, Doug. Uh, moving on to new
[49:55] business number two, award of the bid
for the Cemetery Road project.
[50:00] » Yeah, this is another one that was
ongoing that we needed to get completed.
[50:04] Um, on August 13th, 2026, the city
opened bids for the Cemetery Road
[50:08] reconstruction project. The city
received a total of five bids ranging
[50:12] from the highest bid of $688,352
[50:17] to the lowest bid of $642,135.
The lowest bid was submitted by Ashvalta
[50:23] Specialists LLC out of Pontiac,
Michigan. Um,
[50:28] letters and supporting documents. The
letter from uh our engineer HRC
[50:32] outlining the recommendations for award
of uh bid to the Asheville Specialist
[50:38] LLC out of Pontiac and accompanied bid
tabed information. I have say I have to
[50:44] add a just in the agenda some other
language um to approve or not approve
[50:49] and what's not included on there which
I'm going to add right now. Mr. Mayor,
[50:52] if you can help me with this. So approve
or not approve uh the uh award the bid
[50:58] and the contract in the package uh the
bid package for the cemetery road
[51:03] reconstruction project in the amount of
$642,135
[51:09] to Ashvault Specialist LLC from the
capital improvement fund. GL account
[51:14] 401451802.567.
[51:20] So we just had to add that uh portion in
so they can review the contract in the
[51:25] package.
[51:32] » Council member Curtzwell.
>> I make a motion to approve the award of
[51:36] the bid for the Cemetery Road
construction project. um including the
[51:41] bid in the bid project in the bid packet
in the amount of uh 642135
[51:47] to Asphalt Specialists LLC from the
capital improvement fund GL account
[51:52] number 401451
802.67.
[51:58] » Okay. So it should read a word of the
bid and the contract in the bid package.
[52:03] » Yeah. And the contract in the bid
packet.
[52:05] » I don't think you said contract.
>> Oh.
[52:09] So, we have a motion from council member
Curtzwell.
[52:11] » I'll support a second from council
member Hansen. We have any further
[52:15] discussion regarding this.
[52:19] » City clerk Jay, if you'll lead us in a
roll call vote for this one, please.
[52:22] » Dil,
>> yes.
[52:24] » Squireers,
>> yes.
[52:25] » Opa,
>> yes.
[52:27] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[52:29] » Hansen,
>> yes.
[52:31] » Kennedy,
>> yes. Motion carries.
[52:36] Moving on to new business number three.
award the sidewalk replacement project.
[52:42] [clears throat]
>> Good evening, council, Mr. Mayor.
[52:46] Uh we're revisiting sidewalks again.
Uh let's see.
[52:53] Explanation of topic would be the
sidewalk replacement project is being uh
[52:57] set up to replace any sidewalks that
have been heave or misaligned due to
[53:01] root systems of our city trees. Luigi
Fernando and Sun Cement Company has was
[53:07] awarded the contract for the last couple
years and have done a wonderful job. The
[53:12] contractor will be directed in which
areas uh to address by me and the plan
[53:17] is to start in a subdivision and
complete the area and move on to the
[53:21] next. Um the contractor will be removing
and replacing this year 500 flags of
[53:26] misaligned sidewalks that are creating
trip hazards. Uh they als they they will
[53:31] also be removing and disposing of the
tree roots that are causing the
[53:35] problems. Um the contractor is also
performing all restoration.
[53:41] Uh one thing I for edited out here is
they are carrying over their pricing
[53:45] from 2023. If you can see within the
packet I have that note in there as
[53:49] well. Um when they originally won the
bid. Uh this job is we did budget for
[53:54] for this year and it will be coming out
of GL101-441.974.
[54:01] Uh materials attached are as supporting
documents are quotations from Luigi
[54:06] Fernando and Sons and Concrete
Construction Incorporated and Hartwell
[54:10] Company. Uh the bids were from 2023.
Like I said, they're holding the pricing
[54:16] from 2023. So I didn't go acquire other
other bids at this point. Uh possible
[54:21] course of action be award not award the
sidewalk replacement project with Luigi
[54:26] Fernando and son um
and contract
[54:31] that supplied by the city um for
$149,875
[54:39] $875 from GL account 101-441.974.
[54:45] » Thank you Mr. Urgie. And the motion will
read Mr. Mayor. Yes,
[54:51] » I understand that there may be a
contract already in place. So, just for
[54:56] the benefit of council,
>> um the motion should indicate either an
[55:02] extension of the existing contract or a
new contract as authorized by the city
[55:08] manager so that we could negotiate
terms. if in fact they don't want to
[55:12] extend the original contract but at
least um if your motion includes that
[55:17] subject to a contract or an extension of
the existing contract whichever is
[55:21] applicable
>> and the narrative we have is to uh the
[55:25] motion to award to extend the existing
award of the sidewalk replacement
[55:31] project to Luigi Ferdinandi and Sun
Cement Company for the cost of 149875
[55:37] from GL101-441.97
74 pending review of the contract by the
[55:43] city attorney.
That's the motion that needs to be read.
[55:49] » You might have to repeat that.
>> Council member Boer.
[55:54] » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I would like to
make a a motion to award a contract or
[56:00] extension of current contract for the
sidewalk replacement project to Luigi
[56:06] Ferdinandi and Sun Cement Company for
the cost of $149,875
[56:12] from GL101-441-974.
[56:19] » Pending review of the contract by the
city attorney.
[56:22] » Pending review by the cont of the
contract by the city attorney.
[56:26] » Also support.
>> So we have a motion from council member
[56:29] Bogurt, a second from council member
Dill. Do we have any further discussion
[56:33] regarding this? Council member Popa.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Good to see you.
[56:37] Welcome back.
>> Thank you. Um, I do have a question. I'm
[56:41] reading over this and with regards to
when the cement is replaced and you're
[56:47] removing the roots, the tree roots are
being removed.
[56:51] Say that's for a live tree and removing
those roots are going to damage the
[56:56] tree. What happens then?
>> So, we we we go through this every year.
[57:01] What we do is especially if they go
through and they pull out massive roots
[57:05] like you you kind of got to g gauge
everyone case by case sometimes the
[57:10] trees live. Most of the times the trees
live. Let me rephrase that. Most of the
[57:13] time times the trees live. If they come
across trees that they they they come up
[57:17] and say hey this is like the main main
trunk.
[57:20] » Unfortunately at that point we deem it
as unsafe. We'll take the tree down
[57:25] replant another one.
>> Okay. So it will be replanted. And if
[57:28] this has been addressed previously, you
know, please disregard, but this is the
[57:32] first time I've had this conversation.
So, thank you.
[57:35] » It's it's it's an ongoing issue. We
plant trees in the ement. They heat the
[57:39] sidewalks. We we go through cut the
roots. Um it's something we've been
[57:42] dealing with. I mean, I've been here for
almost 19 years.
[57:45] » It's not new
>> and it's not unique to us.
[57:48] Unfortunately, happens everywhere. But I
just wanted to know that, you know,
[57:52] there's something in place. Residents
could reach out that that dialogue is
[57:56] taking place. Okay. I have had residents
call me and they they'll send me photos
[57:59] of what was taken out. We'll go out
assess the tree. I have my my arborist
[58:03] come by. He takes a look at it and says,
"Hey, I think we should take this or I
[58:07] think we're going to be okay." Um he
he's he's one that loves to save the
[58:11] tree. So, he's not just trying to take
the tree down. Um I do the same thing. I
[58:14] look at it as I don't want it falling on
something because we have in the past
[58:18] where we've gone out and done a lot of
this work. We've had trees go down a
[58:23] year later. We just we kind of learning
from experience, right?
[58:27] » Um kind of looking at the root system
that's truly there.
[58:30] » Obviously, if we've got massive roots
going out in other directions and and we
[58:34] think it's going to be okay, we're we're
going to try and keep the tree that's
[58:36] there there, but if we think it's
unsafe, we're going to take it down and
[58:39] then plant. We we always we always plant
another one. It may not be an exact
[58:43] location because the tree root system
already kind of taken up that area, but
[58:48] we do try to accommodate and and get one
in that that green belt as well.
[58:51] » All right. Thank you.
Council member Duke,
[58:55] » thank you. Um, if you do have to take
the tree down, is that at the
[58:59] homeowner's expense? No.
>> Okay.
[59:01] » No. City, any city tree that is removed,
unless the homeowner has made special
[59:06] requests that they want the tree removed
because it's either unsightly or they
[59:09] don't like the tree,
>> we take it down.
[59:11] » Okay. Thank you,
>> Council Member Bogurt.
[59:16] » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, is grinding
ever an option
[59:21] » as far as grinding out some of the the
the It is. Um,
[59:26] a lot of I I've we've we've done that
in-house. We get a ton of flack from
[59:31] residents. They think it's a gross fix,
temporary fix. A lot of times when we do
[59:36] it, I've gone back on on where we grind
it. Anything over two inches, you're not
[59:42] grinding. We're replacing inch trips up
to two and a half to three inch trips.
[59:46] Right now, if you take anything over
more than like an inch, inch and a half,
[59:50] you're you're going to be back within
usually a year to two to grind the same
[59:55] one. At that point, your sidewalk is
compromised. Um I'm trying to
[1:00:01] we we did do a lot of grinding down like
Liberty and stuff like that and the the
[1:00:05] lesser trip areas. Yes, it is an option.
>> Good to know. Thank you.
[1:00:09] » Not a problem.
>> One more thing. I have one more thing.
[1:00:13] » Council member Dog.
>> Thank you. Um I just wanted to say I'm
[1:00:16] really glad that these guys are holding
um their price on the contract because I
[1:00:21] have they were all over my neighborhood
last year or two years ago and have done
[1:00:25] an amazing job in there. Um everybody
very polite and uh our sidewalks look so
[1:00:32] much better.
>> Okay, city clerk Deon. We have a motion
[1:00:37] from council member Bogurt, a second
from council member Dil. Please lead us
[1:00:42] on a roll call vote for this if you
would.
[1:00:44] » Hurts,
>> yes.
[1:00:46] » Dil,
>> yes.
[1:00:47] » Squires,
>> yes.
[1:00:48] » Ogre,
>> yes.
[1:00:50] » Hansen,
>> yes.
[1:00:51] » Opa,
>> yes.
[1:00:52] » Kennedy,
>> yes. Motion carries.
[1:00:56] Moving on to new business number four,
awards cemetery dirt pile removal to
[1:01:01] Nicholas Contracting.
Okay. So over over the years of
[1:01:06] excavation of graves have has have
resulted in significant accumulation of
[1:01:11] soil as only approximately half of
excavated material is placed back into
[1:01:16] graves. The remaining spoils need to be
removed from the cemetery. Uh the timing
[1:01:20] of this work is important due to the
upcoming paving project with the
[1:01:24] cemetery. While the existing soil soil
piles are not in the way of the paving
[1:01:28] project, it is more practical to remove
the material before the new roads are
[1:01:32] paved.
uh completing and hauling beforehand
[1:01:35] will prevent heavy trucks and hauling
equipment from damaging newly paved
[1:01:38] roads and will help protect the
investment for the upcoming paving
[1:01:41] project. Two companies submitted bids to
load and haul the excess oil. Uh the the
[1:01:48] cost was also evaluated at using DPW
personnel to load the material with a
[1:01:53] contractor providing only trucking.
Based on the pricing and the and the
[1:01:57] resources required, it is more efficient
and more cost-effective to have um have
[1:02:02] one contractor handle both the loading
and hauling of the materials. This
[1:02:06] approach will reduce the demand on the
DPW staff and and equipment and allow
[1:02:09] the material to be removed before the
paving project is complete. Um
[1:02:14] supporting materials attached would be
the quotation from Nikolai contracting
[1:02:18] rose excavating and the DPW loading with
paid trucking.
[1:02:25] Possible course of action would be award
or not award cemetery dirt removal
[1:02:29] project to Nicolai Contracting for
$19,4520
[1:02:35] from GL account line 202-972-0000.
[1:02:42] » Council member Squires.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I motion to award
[1:02:47] the cemetery dirt removal project to
Nicholas's Contracting for $19,4520
[1:02:55] from GL account 202-972.0000
[1:03:01] upon review and approval of contract by
the city attorney support. Support
[1:03:09] have a motion from council member
Squires, second from council member
[1:03:12] Hansen. Do we have any questions for
Superintendent Archie this evening?
[1:03:17] Council member Pop.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[1:03:21] Just a question here.
>> Yes.
[1:03:24] » The dirt. Is there any other use
throughout the city where we might need
[1:03:29] dirt to fill in something? Where is this
dirt going? Do we know
[1:03:33] » that? I don't know. Uh, a lot of times
they have companies that take it for
[1:03:37] either $2 or free. They're filling in
low areas. Uh, this guy is a very big
[1:03:42] outfit. But I'm assuming he has
subdivisions where they're low on dirt.
[1:03:46] He takes it there, dumps it off.
>> Okay. And there's nowhere that you're
[1:03:50] aware of within the city that could
benefit from maybe a leveling or needing
[1:03:55] a leveling or something like that.
>> The only place in the past would have
[1:03:59] been out at Volunteer Park when we did
level and it's all pretty much been
[1:04:02] leveled out. Okay.
>> Um we don't have a lot of un
[1:04:06] kind of land left open just to dump off
dirt.
[1:04:11] » True. Okay. I didn't know if we had
anywhere that was maybe flooding or or
[1:04:15] something like that where you know some
some dirt might help out.
[1:04:18] » Not off the top of my head.
>> All right.
[1:04:20] » Not that not that I was just putting
dirt in it would take care of.
[1:04:23] » Yeah.
>> Thank you.
[1:04:27] » Council member Hansen.
>> Just a quick question. I mean I see
[1:04:31] signs all the time, you know, like the
person is seeking filter and that sort
[1:04:35] of thing where they'll like take it. It
just seems um is this typical for
[1:04:40] municipality to pay for removal of dirt
like this and not get anything back from
[1:04:44] it or
>> that question I couldn't answer but this
[1:04:48] is like I said this pile has been it was
a decent pile when I started my plan is
[1:04:53] to as we now we get this down to zero
and as we start to say I get a five five
[1:05:00] to 10 yards worth of soil find one of
those places because there are there are
[1:05:04] websites that say need filter you can
contact them. But I also don't want to
[1:05:08] be running our trucks a million miles
away just to get rid of 5 to 10 yards of
[1:05:12] dirt, you know? So, it's kind of one of
those uh I may I know the trucking
[1:05:17] company that I do use, he always has
spots where he can haul it out for like
[1:05:21] two yards, $2 a yard, whatever. I pay
trucking and whatever. I want to kind of
[1:05:25] keep on top of it once we get it leveled
down so that we're not back here in 18
[1:05:30] 20 years saying, "Hey, we got another
2,000 or 4,000 yards of dirt that we got
[1:05:34] to get rid of." Well, I I figured I'd
just ask that question because it kind
[1:05:37] of occurred to me. I'm like, you know,
they should be paying us for the dirt.
[1:05:40] But
>> yes, no, I I I get it. And and majority
[1:05:43] of the people that have that, they want
clean filled dirt.
[1:05:47] » You know, this is fairly clean dirt. I
mean, it has rocks and stuff in it.
[1:05:50] There are unfortunately some probably
tree branches buried in there over the
[1:05:53] years, whatever. Um, and it has been
kind of an area that we if we're working
[1:05:58] on certain ends of town, we'll go to the
cemetery first and dump there as opposed
[1:06:02] to going to our yard and overfilling our
dumping bay.
[1:06:05] » Well, I I I appreciate you kind of
getting this taken care of, especially
[1:06:09] before the road gets put in. And um,
yeah, I appreciate you at least getting
[1:06:13] us that bid and getting somebody to come
out and take care of it before the
[1:06:16] construction starts. So,
>> thank you.
[1:06:19] » Excuse me, Mr. Mayor Kennedy. Um, we
think that there is a problem with that
[1:06:24] DLC account. Um, finance and benefit
administrator Tieran just ran down to
[1:06:29] her office to grab her budget book to
verify.
[1:06:32] » Okay.
>> Could we hold off on the vote until
[1:06:34] then?
>> We can do that.
[1:06:36] » Thank you.
[1:06:39] » You expect her soon or should we just
take care of the salt truck purchase?
[1:06:43] » Um, you could go ahead and do that.
>> Yep. I think we can. And uh, how
[1:06:47] convenient. Superintendent Archie's
still here.
[1:06:50] Sorry to
>> let's move on to new business number
[1:06:52] five. Purchase of the 2027 model year
freight liner.
[1:06:58] » Okay.
[1:07:02] All right. I have done this I have I've
done this a few times now with these
[1:07:06] trucks. So I think this one should be
pretty foolproof. Um so the uh the DPW
[1:07:12] would like to replace our 2006 Sterling
dump truck T9 due to the age and
[1:07:17] availability of parts for the cab. These
trucks are used not only for plowing and
[1:07:22] salting the city streets but the the
hauling of leaf vacuums, dirt, leaf
[1:07:26] hauling, sweeping debris hauled to the
dump and many many more uses. Uh we use
[1:07:32] the mitten bidding system which the
bidding is already completed through the
[1:07:35] Rochester Hills cooperative. Uh
Wolverine Freightlininer received the
[1:07:39] bid for the cab chassis and we will will
be also using the city of Rochester Hill
[1:07:44] cooperative bidding system for the
snowplow equipment lights box and
[1:07:49] lights and box through uh truck and
trailer specialists with the this was
[1:07:53] done with the RFP RH20-23
and in fiscal year 202627 the department
[1:08:00] budgeted $250,000 for the salt truck
under GL account 642979500
[1:08:06] 00 the cost for the vehicle build and is
now2
[1:08:12] $256,974.
[1:08:15] Uh materials attached as supporting
documents is a quote contains two two
[1:08:19] parts. The cabin chassis, the bid from
Wolverine Freightlininer includes all
[1:08:23] the specifications the city needs for
the efficient plow efficient plow truck
[1:08:28] and the you to be used throughout the
year for the price of $117,89.
[1:08:34] Part two of the quote is to outfit the
truck with snowplow equipment lights in
[1:08:38] a box. This will be done through truck
and trailer specialist incorporated for
[1:08:42] the price of $139,885.
[1:08:46] Possible course of action is to approve
the purchase of the 2027 model year
[1:08:51] Freightlininer DPW salt plow truck
chassis model 108 SD plus from Wolverine
[1:08:57] Freight Liner for the price of
$256,974
[1:09:02] from GL account 642979500.
[1:09:08] Pricing and conditions were proposed uh
through Rochester Hills Cooperative RFP
[1:09:14] RH20-023
[1:09:17] agreement.
Uh suggested motion
[1:09:24] » looking for a motion.
>> Sorry
[1:09:27] Hansen.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'll uh make that
[1:09:29] motion uh to approve the purchase of a
2027 model year Freightlininer DPW Salt
[1:09:34] Truck uh chassis model 108 SD Plus from
Wolverine Freightlininer and outfitting
[1:09:40] from Truck and Trailer Specialties Inc.
for $256,974
[1:09:45] from GL642-979500.
[1:09:50] » Support a motion from council member
Hansen, a second from council member. we
[1:09:55] have any further discussion for
Superintendent Archie regarding this.
[1:09:59] Council member Hansen.
>> Well, obviously the price of everything
[1:10:02] keeps getting a bit higher. Um, is there
any chance we might be able to get
[1:10:06] anything out of the existing truck or
like put it in reserve or get
[1:10:10] » So, right now I'm using
two of the old Sterings as a back like
[1:10:16] we run five trucks.
>> Yeah.
[1:10:17] » I right now currently have six. Two of
them being the Sterings that are from '
[1:10:21] 06. They're both purchased in the same
year. I'm using them as my fifth truck
[1:10:25] this year. So, as one breaks down, I'm
going to be splicing it back together as
[1:10:29] the other one goes out on the road. Um,
when we get this final purchase made and
[1:10:34] the truck shows up because they are
taking quite a bit of time to build. Um,
[1:10:39] I I I've already kind of put my order in
in a sense to get us on the books back
[1:10:45] in like February, so it speed up the
process so we're not waiting almost two
[1:10:49] years. Um, when we finally get the truck
in, we'll see what kind of condition it
[1:10:53] is. I would like to keep one as a
backup, basically a truck that we haul
[1:10:58] stuff in. Kind of wear and tear on that
one until it is done. Um, the other one,
[1:11:04] depending on what condition, I may put
them up for auction. Um, it just kind of
[1:11:08] depends on I mean, the last time we did
this, they gave me like $17,000 for the
[1:11:13] truck.
>> And to me, it's almost better off having
[1:11:17] a backup sitting in our fleet. If one of
ours goes down, we throw this truck on
[1:11:20] the road. We back. We're not we're not
missing a beat. And, you know, picking
[1:11:24] up a few more subs in the future. We may
end up having to go to a six truck
[1:11:28] anyways eventually. Anyhow,
>> well, I have had some some comments made
[1:11:33] to me about the great plowing services
south and DPW. So, I will say that. Um
[1:11:38] one one other question that I had um uh
obviously not for this winter upcoming
[1:11:44] maybe 2027 2028 when it would be in
operation or or is that
[1:11:49] » it will it will not be this winter for
for sure. I'm hoping by next next they
[1:11:54] told me 16 16 months when I first talked
to them. Like I said I put a basically I
[1:11:59] put a the truck is cab chassis is ready
to go.
[1:12:02] I could probably have that tomorrow if I
called them and said it's the build part
[1:12:06] getting in the box. The box has been the
big hold up on a lot of these trucks. Um
[1:12:10] once they get all their parts, we're
basically get in line and then they get
[1:12:14] all the parts in and they've been
ordering certain you know they'll the
[1:12:17] box held us up on the last one. So once
we get it they'll they said 16 months.
[1:12:22] I'm going to bet it's probably going to
be 18 to 24 unfortunately. Um, I'm not
[1:12:28] holding my breath on having it by next
winter, but if it shows up, great.
[1:12:32] » Okay. Thank you.
[1:12:36] » City Clerk Dean, we have a motion from
Council Member Hansen and a second from
[1:12:39] Council Member Bogurt. Would you lead us
in a roll call vote for this motion,
[1:12:43] please?
>> Squires,
[1:12:45] » yes.
>> Bogurt,
[1:12:47] » yes.
>> Kurtzw,
[1:12:48] » yes.
>> Dil,
[1:12:49] » yes.
>> Yes.
[1:12:51] » Hansen,
>> yes.
[1:12:52] » Kennedy,
>> yes. That motion carries. And now we
[1:12:56] have a second motion. Council member
Hansen.
[1:12:58] » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'll make a motion
to approve a budget amendment for fiscal
[1:13:02] year 2026 2027 to the equipment
replacement fund GL account number
[1:13:07] 642-979.50ard
[1:13:10] dumps salt truck for $10,000 to increase
the line item from 250,000 to 260,000.
[1:13:17] » I'll support.
>> Have a motion from council member
[1:13:20] Hansen, a second from council member
Dilk. Do we have any discussion
[1:13:24] regarding the budget amendment?
>> City clerk Deon, if you'll lead us on a
[1:13:28] roll co vote for this, please.
>> Hansen,
[1:13:31] » yes.
>> Opa,
[1:13:33] » yes.
>> Squireers,
[1:13:34] » yes.
>> Dild,
[1:13:35] » yes.
>> Herzil,
[1:13:36] » yes.
>> Bogurt,
[1:13:38] » yes.
>> Kennedy,
[1:13:39] » yes. Motion carries.
And now we'll go back to new business
[1:13:44] number four. There was some discussion
about the account.
[1:13:48] » Yes.
>> Number. The correct geo code will be
[1:13:51] 209-972.0000.
[1:13:56] » Okay. I love the attention to detail.
Thank you.
[1:14:01] » 209.
>> So on this one, we have a uh a motion
[1:14:04] from uh Council Member Squires and a
second from Council Member Hansen. Do we
[1:14:08] have any further discussion regarding
the dirt pile removal?
[1:14:14] City Clerk Deon, if you'll lead us on a
roll co vote for this then, please.
[1:14:18] Popa,
>> yes.
[1:14:20] » Hansen,
>> yes.
[1:14:21] » Dil,
>> yes.
[1:14:22] » Bogart,
>> yes.
[1:14:24] » Hurts,
>> yes.
[1:14:25] » Buyers,
>> yes.
[1:14:26] » Kennedy,
>> yes. Motion carries with the revised
[1:14:30] account number.
[1:14:34] » Thank you so much. Thanks a lot.
[clears throat]
[1:14:39] Moving on to new business number six,
second amendment conditional reszoning
[1:14:44] agreement for Westlake. and uh our
planning consultant uh Miss Verlet will
[1:14:49] handle this for us.
>> Hi, good evening uh council and Mr.
[1:14:53] Mayor. This is uh the proposed second
amendment to the conditional resoning
[1:14:57] agreement for the Westlake project which
is at the corner of 10 and Dixsboro.
[1:15:03] Um the development initially included
three single family residential lots
[1:15:07] along Lake Street. Uh the applicant is
now requesting to combine the three lots
[1:15:11] into one single family residential lot
for the construction of one single
[1:15:16] family home. The total land area zoned
R3. So the boundary of what was reszoned
[1:15:21] with the conditional resoning is not
proposed to change. It's just proposed
[1:15:25] to be combined into one parcel instead
of three. Um however, due to the nature
[1:15:30] of the proposed change, an amendment to
the conditional resoning agreement is
[1:15:34] required. Attached as supporting
documents are a draft of the second
[1:15:38] amendment to the conditional resoning
agreement. Um, and I'm happy to answer
[1:15:42] any questions if you have any. The
applicant, Bob Langan, is also here
[1:15:45] tonight.
>> Okay. So, we need a motion to bring it
[1:15:48] to the floor for discussion. Council
member Dilk.
[1:15:51] » I was I did not want to um move I was I
had a question. So, I'll wait to see if
[1:15:56] someone else makes the motion.
>> Council member Hansen.
[1:16:00] » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'll make a motion
to approve the second amendment to the
[1:16:03] conditional resoning agreement and
authorize the mayor and the city clerk
[1:16:06] to sign the second amendment to the
conditional resoning agreement.
[1:16:09] » Second.
>> I'm sure who made the second?
[1:16:12] » I did.
>> Oh, council member Kurtzwell. Thank you.
[1:16:17] » So, we have a motion from Council Member
Hansen, a second from Council Member
[1:16:19] Curtzwell. Do we have questions for our
planner this evening? Council member
[1:16:23] Dilk.
>> Thank you. Um, I kind of wanted a a
[1:16:27] discussion on why they decided to do
this. And I could be remembering this
[1:16:32] wrong, but wasn't there um something
about the having these uh three single
[1:16:39] family homes that would be uh affordable
housing? And I it looks it to me
[1:16:45] building just one I'm assuming is going
to be a huge um
[1:16:51] uh house now instead of three smaller
ones um is a little concerning to me. So
[1:16:57] I just wanted to see what you thought
about that.
[1:17:00] » Yeah. Um the applicant might also be
able to address some of that. Um my
[1:17:04] understanding is they received interest
in the three lots in only building one
[1:17:08] home um across all three. The way that
the agreement was written was that it
[1:17:13] was three single family homes on three
single family lots. Um I don't think
[1:17:18] that it specified that it had to be at a
certain level of affordability, but we
[1:17:23] do have an expectation that it um meets
our ordinance requirements for fitting
[1:17:27] with the surrounding area in terms of
size and appearance and all of those
[1:17:31] things. So um it would still be expected
to meet all of those requirements. Um
[1:17:36] but because the initial agreement said
three homes on three lots that was terms
[1:17:41] of the agreement um and the reasonzoning
and that's why when they were approached
[1:17:46] with a request from a potential buyer
and they approached us with um an
[1:17:50] application to build one home that's how
we got here. So
[1:17:56] legally, do we is this one of those
situations where it fits in the zoning
[1:18:00] and we have to go along with it or um
and it's just a
[1:18:05] um
you know um just going through the
[1:18:09] motions here or is this something we can
oppose if we actually want to?
[1:18:15] the way and the city attorney can weigh
in. Um, but the way that the agreement
[1:18:19] was written was that you agreed to a
conditional resoning of three single
[1:18:22] family lots. So, that's that's what was
agreed to. Um, the lots currently meet
[1:18:27] the zoning ordinance.
>> The new lot would also meet the zoning
[1:18:32] ordinance requirements. Um, but the
agreement that that council agreed to
[1:18:37] was the three lots. So, I don't think
it's um necessary that you that you
[1:18:42] absolutely have to agree to the
amendment, but um I know that's what
[1:18:47] they received interest in and it
required the amendment. So, that's why
[1:18:51] it's before you tonight.
>> [snorts]
[1:18:52] » Yeah, I was I was just it I mean we went
we went through this
[1:18:58] whole thing so for so long and I guess I
was just really uh I don't know if
[1:19:04] looking forward to makes sense but um
thinking about the fact that this was
[1:19:08] going to be um housing that would be a
little more affordable and it wouldn't
[1:19:13] be another McMansion kind of situation
happening. So that's just my concern.
[1:19:19] Thank you.
[1:19:23] Council member Curtzwell.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um,
[1:19:28] you know, I've worked with a lot of
developers in the past and I understand
[1:19:31] that sometimes things change and what
generally changes is uh consumer demand.
[1:19:40] And
I don't I don't hear anything here where
[1:19:44] the developer
wants to change this because he just
[1:19:50] wants to change it. He's changing it
because there hasn't been a demand for
[1:19:56] three separate homes. It's his money.
He's got it tied up. It's his property.
[1:20:04] And if the developer has a potential or
prospective buyer that has expressed an
[1:20:10] interest in
um uh building a little bit maybe of a
[1:20:16] larger home, but he wants all three
lots. Maybe the person wants their
[1:20:20] privacy. I mean, I'd love to live on
five acres and get away from people
[1:20:24] quite frankly, you know. So, if I could
if I could afford it, um I potentially
[1:20:29] could be a prospective buyer um just to
have the land and and be away from, you
[1:20:35] know, a lot of people. But what I don't
like is when government thinks they know
[1:20:41] more than the person who's got the money
at the stake. And I'm sure not going to
[1:20:48] um second guessess the developer. I'm
not going to second guess his judgment.
[1:20:54] I think his record speaks uh for how
well he has developed uh Westlake
[1:20:59] Apartments. Um it's my understanding
there's a waiting list over there. Uh
[1:21:03] they're very very wellmaintained and
very affordable. So I think he's made a
[1:21:07] commitment to the affordability issue
and I'm not going to tie his hands and
[1:21:11] force him to sit on three parcels of
land and wait until
[1:21:17] you know the end of time until somebody
decides, okay, maybe I'm interested. And
[1:21:21] then he gets one lot sold. then he waits
another 20 years and waits for another
[1:21:24] house to get built. If he's got a buyer
in the wings and he can develop it, um I
[1:21:29] would be in favor of uh approving the
agreement and keeping government out of
[1:21:33] the developers decisions.
>> Council member Pova,
[1:21:38] » thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um
you had acknowledged that uh part of the
[1:21:44] agreement initially and you full
disclosure I was not on the city council
[1:21:49] when all this took place. Um, one of the
agreements of verbiage stated that
[1:21:53] anything that's built will match the
aesthetics and size similarity of the
[1:21:59] current area. Okay. So then if we're
going from three properties to one,
[1:22:07] are you saying that they're going to
build a large home on that one property?
[1:22:12] » Yeah. Do we know? So that um requirement
for infill of single family housing is
[1:22:18] uh wasn't specific to this agreement.
It's within our zoning ordinance. So the
[1:22:22] expectation is that um though when it
was three homes or or any home that's
[1:22:26] built on that area um is subject to the
normal requirements that construction of
[1:22:33] a single family home would be. Um and so
it would still be expected to go through
[1:22:38] the building permit process. As part of
that, we review it to make sure that it
[1:22:41] meets setbacks and all of the ordinance
requirements and meets those infill
[1:22:45] housing requirements. Um, and they have
submitted their building permit
[1:22:49] application, but obviously it can't be
approved until um or couldn't be
[1:22:54] approved until if council decided to
amend the agreement. Um, and so that
[1:22:58] wasn't specific to this agreement. It's
just a general ordinance requirement
[1:23:02] that any home that would be built there
is the expectation that it would be
[1:23:06] reviewed against those requirements.
Okay. Well,
[1:23:11] the homes that are in that area, they're
they're cute. They have charm. They have
[1:23:16] character. And uh I know just from
seeing other municipalities, I I don't
[1:23:21] want a situation here in our city where
people are coming in buying up these
[1:23:26] small homes that people have been living
in and now they're selling and building
[1:23:30] these McMansions. So, every neighborhood
has a place. I'm not saying there's not
[1:23:35] McMansions or larger homes in the city.
There are, but there are also
[1:23:39] neighborhoods that are right-sized. And
I think every neighborhood at this point
[1:23:44] is right-sized. And my concern is, and
which is one of the reasons why I did
[1:23:49] run for council, is I want to ensure
that our neighborhoods remain rightsized
[1:23:53] and we don't have a situation where the
colonials or the ranches are going to be
[1:23:59] torn down for these homes that certainly
meet the requirements of the parcel, but
[1:24:04] that's not going to look like my
neighbor's home or the home across the
[1:24:07] street or, you know, to that extent. So,
um
[1:24:12] I'm a little concerned about this just
from, you know, that [clears throat]
[1:24:15] that's my take on it. But, um I do thank
you for providing the information uh to
[1:24:20] because to go from three to one, that's
not telling me that that's going to be
[1:24:24] the same size home on that one that was
going to be on the three. So, that's
[1:24:28] that's where I stand with it. So, thank
you very much.
[1:24:33] » City Clerk Deon, we have a motion from
council member Hansen, a second from
[1:24:36] council member Curtzwell. Can you please
lead us in a roll call vote for this
[1:24:40] please?
>> Bogurt,
[1:24:42] » yes.
>> Gild,
[1:24:43] » no.
>> Hansen,
[1:24:46] » yes.
>> Opa,
[1:24:48] » no.
>> Curtsile,
[1:24:50] » yes.
>> Squires,
[1:24:52] » no.
>> Kennedy,
[1:24:55] » yes.
>> Motion carries. Thank you.
[1:24:58] » Thank you.
[1:25:05] » Moving on to the budget for this
evening. Any discussion regarding the
[1:25:09] budget?
[1:25:12] Thanks for getting the account number.
[1:25:16] Okay. At this point, we will open the
floor for public comment. Those wishing
[1:25:20] to address the council have a two-minute
time frame within which to do so. Please
[1:25:24] state your name and address uh for the
city clerk if you would.
[1:25:27] » Morning, Mr. Mayor. So, the attorney
would like to speak with you.
[1:25:30] » Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't see her back
there. Thank you. Uh for the benefit of
[1:25:34] council and the public, the council
rules of procedure do require names and
[1:25:40] addresses prior to speaking in public
comment. The open meetings act allows
[1:25:45] city council to adopt reasonable rules
to which city council did.
[1:25:51] » Thank you, city attorney Hamame. So with
that in mind, anyone wishing to address
[1:25:57] the council is welcome to do so. Please
approach the podium. You have two
[1:26:00] minutes within which to do so. And as
stated before, it is one-way
[1:26:04] conversation. State your name and
address for the city clerk.
[1:26:09] » I'm not a resident of South Lion
anymore, a Green Oak. Is that all right
[1:26:14] if I speak?
>> Oh, absolutely.
[1:26:16] » Okay. My name is Judy Keeling. I'm 1189
Shannonoa, South Lion, Michigan. I would
[1:26:24] just like to say uh to the cameras,
being a grandmother of three and caring
[1:26:31] about children, I would love to see the
cameras uh put into the city. And um I
[1:26:40] don't plan on doing anything wrong. So
if they took my plate, it's okay. Thank
[1:26:46] you.
>> Thank you very much.
[1:26:55] At this point, we will close public
comment and move on to the city
[1:26:59] manager's report with city manager Baky.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you,
[1:27:04] councel. A few things. I've got the
semary road cemetery road project um is
[1:27:11] scheduled to start soon. It's also going
to complete uh around section 11. It
[1:27:17] should be done. They're hoping uh before
November 1st. Bid opening for the trails
[1:27:23] uh starts the 27th of this month. So,
that's a good thing. And there's a pre
[1:27:28] uh construction meeting for Well 8
tomorrow with the um the contractor
[1:27:33] source and growth. Um also want like to
speak a little bit on the um
[1:27:39] the uh tank, I'm sorry, the the the well
six project or the well six failure at
[1:27:44] that time. So, we did have a a
construction a constructive meeting with
[1:27:50] MST to ensure that we're all on the same
page. Um that speaking with Ron uh
[1:27:57] today, he's happy with the numbers and
the levels in our water. So, that's
[1:28:00] good. Um so, we're looking at two weeks
um before they're going to able it could
[1:28:07] be sooner. They're waiting to see what
it looks like when it comes to cleaning
[1:28:10] of the well. So, but um right now we're
we're all good and um we appreciate
[1:28:16] everybody's cooperation on the um on the
water restrictions. Um that's a
[1:28:21] precautionary measure. It's voluntary,
but just to make sure that we're going
[1:28:24] to be all set. Um that's what we're
asking. And um with that, if anybody's
[1:28:29] got any questions here to here to answer
them.
[1:28:34] » Council member Hansen,
>> do we have any updates regarding Dixro?
[1:28:37] passed by today and and it looks like
they've got the first layer down, but um
[1:28:42] are we still looking like next week or
>> um I'm I am told well I'm told it was
[1:28:47] going to be mid to this week to to later
I'm hoping Friday. So they they've been
[1:28:53] kind of getting getting things done
pretty quickly there. So we're happy
[1:28:57] with that. Um get those roads open up.
My concern was again the schools and the
[1:29:02] buses. So it looks like that's going to
be met which is a good thing. So, we're
[1:29:06] looking at the latest Friday.
>> Okay.
[1:29:09] » That's what I'm told. Like I said,
>> and that was that was in an email from
[1:29:12] the road commission. I think that's
where they were posted.
[1:29:15] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[1:29:16] » Well, I I will say this. I would um like
some information. I know you said you
[1:29:20] were going to get um information
regarding our flock contract. I I too
[1:29:24] would like to know when that is up for
renewal. Um if there is a cancellation
[1:29:29] fee. Uh additionally, I would also uh
like information. I do appreciate the
[1:29:35] fact that we've got it on our um city
website as far as use every 30 days and
[1:29:40] such. I' I'd be curious um how much it's
being used total um you know by the by
[1:29:47] our city employees and and if there is
any benefit to even pay for it and how
[1:29:51] much we're paying for it.
>> Um that's I appreciate you looking into
[1:29:55] it for us and just letting us know. So
>> thank you. Yep.
[1:30:00] » Council member D.
>> Thank you. Um,
[1:30:04] can you tell us what's happening with
the housing commission, what this issue
[1:30:07] is, and uh, you know, I was very
troubled to see um, Linda's name on the
[1:30:12] resignation. So,
>> yeah,
[1:30:14] » hoping for more info.
>> So, and my understanding is there's
[1:30:18] some,
I guess, procedure or personnel issues
[1:30:22] during the meetings um, that we're
trying to address. And I will contact
[1:30:28] um, Miss Macintosh tomorrow and we'll
talk about it. I don't want to speak to
[1:30:32] anything out of turn because I I want to
get pretty much the inside scoop, if you
[1:30:38] will. I don't want to say anything, but
there there's some issues going on with
[1:30:41] maybe some of the residents there. Okay.
>> So, I'd like to look into that first
[1:30:45] before we make any comments. Um, but I
do want to talk to her and figure out
[1:30:50] what we can do to um help her and to
make sure that we have the commission
[1:30:54] intact. So, I just don't want to speak
to anything right now that I I don't
[1:30:58] 100% know for for sure what's going on.
So,
[1:31:01] » Okay. And the um other question I had is
um when we are talking about getting
[1:31:06] that um water report um are we will we
be able to see that um when it comes out
[1:31:12] or um will we need to wait till when
>> the the water report?
[1:31:17] » Um you were talking about getting the
report for uh the damage or whatever the
[1:31:22] fix has to be. Oh. Uh, for for the tank.
>> Yes. Sorry.
[1:31:26] » Uh, yeah. So, I was told that it would
be a couple of weeks. That was a few
[1:31:31] days ago. So, I'm I'm hoping sometime
next week we'll have that.
[1:31:35] » Once we get that, we'll we'll figure out
what the next part of the process is,
[1:31:40] how much it's going to cost, and how um
how uh good of a repair it's going to be
[1:31:45] based on. Again, preload is the
manufacturer of the tank. They were not
[1:31:50] the contractors that repaired the tank
four years ago. I I don't even know
[1:31:53] their names who did that, but um it's
good to go with the manufacturer. They
[1:31:58] know the insides and outs of of their
own equipment. So, Ron again says that
[1:32:04] there is a fix to it.
>> Great.
[1:32:07] » We'll get it to you.
>> I just wanted to know if there was going
[1:32:10] to be a long time before the next
meeting. I was just hoping that we could
[1:32:13] get it, you know, when it's available.
>> Yeah, I can make Yes, I can I can
[1:32:17] expedite that for you.
>> Thank you so much. That's all.
[1:32:22] Council member Bogurt. Uh just curious
how the Pontiac Trail project's coming
[1:32:27] along. Are we still meeting targets?
>> So, yep. Uh I have another meeting
[1:32:32] tomorrow at 9:00 with RCOC and Tonio. Uh
last meeting, uh looks like everything's
[1:32:39] on track. Jeff and I go every nine every
Tuesday at nine o'clock. Uh I take their
[1:32:45] concern our concerns that we have such
as issues with the uh the um the detour
[1:32:51] and and the some type sometimes
confusing left right center type uh
[1:32:57] intersection at 9 mile and Pontiac
trail. Um but as far as I know it's
[1:33:02] going according to plan.
Again I'm being told that mid November
[1:33:08] is when it's supposed to be done. Um and
hopefully probably two to three weeks
[1:33:12] they'll be moving north to start going
downtown.
[1:33:15] » Great. Um just to um add on to that um
I'm not sure who manages the
[1:33:23] intersection at 10mi and Griswald,
>> but there's limited um
[1:33:31] visibility when on Griswald making a
left turn. You can't see to the right
[1:33:37] the oncoming traffic. There's bushes
that obscure the road. So, I don't know
[1:33:42] who can address that.
>> I I can talk to our CLC tomorrow at the
[1:33:46] meeting saying that there's issues with
that.
[1:33:49] » Thank you.
>> Yep.
[1:33:54] » Council member Curtzwell.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um,
[1:33:59] I also would like to um echo my concerns
uh regarding the recent resignations
[1:34:05] from the housing commission. Um,
Linda Benson is just uh she's a great
[1:34:11] individual, very dedicated, comes to the
meetings. Uh, so I I was very concerned
[1:34:16] with hers and with Steve's resignation.
You know, resignation letters are kind
[1:34:21] of interesting. And these two
resignation letters, you know, most
[1:34:24] resignation letters are I I resign
effective and and you leave it at that.
[1:34:30] Um, there are a couple of pieces of
information in these two resignation
[1:34:35] letters that I don't know if I need to
come to you and talk to you privately,
[1:34:40] you know, in your office, but I'm
[snorts] deeply concerned
[1:34:44] um about uh some of the statements that
they made and and I uh I'm not going to
[1:34:50] take time tonight to address it, but um
but their concerns uh clearly did not
[1:34:57] speak to personality uh differences. So,
uh that's why there's a little bit of a
[1:35:03] discrepancy between maybe what you're
saying and what their um resignation
[1:35:09] letters say because what their le
resignation letters say, I think
[1:35:13] requires a full council and we've got a
great working council. You know, I mean,
[1:35:18] this is a incredible council. We we know
how to compromise and we know how to
[1:35:22] solve problems. This may be something
council needs to just come in and solve.
[1:35:27] Um uh but I I was not pleased with um
the tidbits in those letters. Uh second
[1:35:33] of all, uh there is a I do want to
address since you're meeting with the
[1:35:37] road commission tomorrow is um once
again 9M Pontiac Trail. Um when you are
[1:35:44] on uh the south side of NMI just before
the light at Pontiac Trail on the it
[1:35:52] looks like the easement that's there by
Bush's grocery store. There's a massive
[1:35:57] hole there. And I'm telling you, with
the kids that are walking that sidewalk,
[1:36:03] number one, somebody is going to look in
that hole or a kid's going to push
[1:36:07] another kid. Now, they have a couple
barrels around it, but the caution tape
[1:36:12] is ripped off on one side. You know, I
don't understand why they just can't put
[1:36:16] some plywood over and cover up that
hole. Uh, that is a pretty deep hole.
[1:36:22] Number one. Number two, once again, Nine
Mile Pontiac Trail. I noticed over the
[1:36:27] weekend that there were um individuals
that were crossing NMI and traveling
[1:36:35] north on Pontiac Trail and they could
not get to the light switch because they
[1:36:41] wanted to cross again because the um the
sensor that you push is in an area where
[1:36:49] they're going to be pouring cement. So
to get into the area to push the button
[1:36:53] to turn the light on the signal requires
people to step into a hole that is going
[1:36:59] to be filled with cement at some time
and people were having a hard time
[1:37:02] crossing because they couldn't press
that light. I mean I think that's one
[1:37:06] thing that these contractors sometimes
need to keep in cons keep in
[1:37:10] consideration. when you're dealing with
areas with a crosswalk and you've got a
[1:37:15] mechanism there to change those lights
and it's three weeks out before you put
[1:37:20] the cement in. You know, a little bit of
a priority there.
[1:37:24] » Yeah, I've talked to him about that
whole intersection as far as the
[1:37:26] importance of safety when it comes to
the
[1:37:29] » when it comes to because I know that
school's opening soon and we want to
[1:37:32] have a safe passage for the kids. Um
they've told me they're going to have a
[1:37:36] workaround either have it done or at
least something where it's more safe
[1:37:39] where they can do that. I I I I'll
reiterate to them again um that this is
[1:37:44] important and that we need a a better
workaround if it if it leaves if it's
[1:37:49] not going to be poured and done that
there's going to do something where it's
[1:37:53] going to be safe for that crossing. I I
I've I've talked to him last week about
[1:37:58] it um because there was other concerns
from individuals. So I just want to know
[1:38:03] what their plan is to to address that. I
know it's difficult. I know it's, you
[1:38:07] know, it's one of those things where
Yeah, I get it. But we have if there's
[1:38:11] if there's people walking there and
signs there, we want to make sure it's
[1:38:14] safe. And
>> I mean, I live in that area.
[1:38:17] » Yep.
>> So, you know, I I'm the person they come
[1:38:20] to. I mean, you know, they stick postms
on my front door,
[1:38:25] » you know, with did you know, blah blah
blah. And that that's a pretty big
[1:38:28] concern. I think it's u percolating
because school's getting ready to start.
[1:38:32] you've got the two um uh middle schools
that are right over there. And I'm
[1:38:36] telling you, and I watched a lady and
she could not get into that area to push
[1:38:40] that button
>> and and change that light to cross. So,
[1:38:44] thank you for
>> I'll I'll bring it up again. Like I
[1:38:46] said, I brought it up last Tuesday and
we'll we'll hopefully get a better
[1:38:50] solution soon.
>> Thank you so much. And last, um a lot of
[1:38:53] people, you know, I I gather around the
city, see a lot of people. I'm in these
[1:38:57] subdivisions in the neighborhoods and
there's nothing but praise for how this
[1:39:03] council is moving forward, how you're
moving forward and what a difference the
[1:39:06] city manager makes. Um I know it's a lot
on your plate. There's a lot of
[1:39:10] projects. Um but I got to tell you um
you know uh everybody I've spoken to has
[1:39:17] said just incredible job that city of
South Line and the staff is doing.
[1:39:21] Absolutely incredible job.
>> Thank you.
[1:39:23] » So thank you.
>> Thank you.
[1:39:26] So, just to follow on to Council Member
Bogart's concern, should any resident
[1:39:31] have concern with obstruction of view
problems on the road, feel free to
[1:39:37] contact the RCOC directly. Their phone
number is 877-858-4804,
[1:39:45] or you can submit a work order on their
website, which is rcoocc.org.
[1:39:50] and they're pretty responsive of
replying to you that they've received
[1:39:54] it, addressing the issue, and telling
you it's been corrected. So, every
[1:39:58] resident has the opportunity to do that.
All right, Doug, thank you very much for
[1:40:03] this evening. We'll move on to council
comments this evening,
[1:40:06] » and we'll start with Council Member
Popa.
[1:40:11] » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. [snorts] Uh, I
want to go ahead and wish all the kids a
[1:40:15] safe and happy school year. I want you
all to challenge yourselves and know
[1:40:21] that you shall succeed because you are
magnificent.
[1:40:26] And finally, um, September 11th is
coming up.
[1:40:31] May we never forget what took place on
that day and may we all remember who we
[1:40:36] were on September 12th. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Council Member. Council
[1:40:40] member Dilk.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, I just wanted
[1:40:44] to say, um, I don't I didn't know Steve
very well, but I just wanted to thank
[1:40:48] them, uh, Linda and Steve for their work
on the housing board and say thank you.
[1:40:54] Um, and especially with Linda, uh, I'm
going to reach out because, uh, really
[1:40:59] disappointing.
Um, and want to make sure, you know,
[1:41:04] [clears throat] I have an idea of what
exactly is going on with that. Um,
[1:41:09] and I also wanted to just say um to the
Pumpkinfest organizers, I know this was
[1:41:14] a big um uh year because there's been a
lot of change in not only where it's
[1:41:20] going to be, but in the the leaders who
are leading Pumpkin Fest. And I looked
[1:41:24] through that map and it's um I'm
actually kind of excited about the way
[1:41:29] the map looks and how um I how it looks
like um Pumpkin Fest is going to go this
[1:41:36] year. and Pumpkinfest Live. And I if it
goes as well as it looks like it could
[1:41:42] on this uh map, I'm kind of hoping that
we stick with this in the future and
[1:41:46] don't disrupt uh the road in order to do
it. But anyway, I just want to say thank
[1:41:51] you. I know it's a huge year to make
those kind of decisions. I've been on
[1:41:55] the I've been on the board before and I
know that it's so much work. I just want
[1:41:59] to say thank you. That's all.
>> Thank you, Council Member. Council
[1:42:02] member Curtzwell.
>> Thank you. Uh this Wednesday, August 26
[1:42:06] at 6:30, join everyone at the Lake
Street Cruisin downtown South Lion. It's
[1:42:11] a great event. Uh Paul Peters will be
there as a DJ. There'll be awards for
[1:42:15] the best in show, best engine, and best
paint. Tonight's sponsors are Vanguard
[1:42:21] Motor Sales located in Wayne County.
They are the nation's uh premier classic
[1:42:27] and muscle car dealership. I learned
that tonight. Uh they have over 80,000
[1:42:32] square feet of indoor showroom and they
ship worldwide. Uh thank you to Vanguard
[1:42:38] Motors for their sponsorship uh to this
event in South Lion. Our next um
[1:42:44] sponsorship is Wixom Towing. Uh this is
a family-owned operated towing company.
[1:42:50] They do uh not only car towing, but they
machine haul and they have been
[1:42:55] servicing our area for decades. They
provide 247 uh quick uh uh towing
[1:43:01] services all year round and uh they can
do heavy and light towing. Uh frankly um
[1:43:08] I've had to use um Wixom Towing in the
past and actually they were very good.
[1:43:13] Uh so I want to thank um Wixom Towing.
They're just a great towing company and
[1:43:17] thank them for supporting South Line.
And last, this is a special message to
[1:43:22] the people so involved in um the lake um
in the cruisen and that is Doug and
[1:43:30] Debbie Cook and I spoke to Debbie
tonight as she was boarding her cruise
[1:43:35] um taking her Alaskan cruise. So Debbie
and Doug will not be with us on
[1:43:39] Wednesday, but uh they are off to a
wonderful cruise in Alaska, and I wish
[1:43:44] them well. And I know you're going to
enjoy every minute of it. And you know,
[1:43:49] those are two people that have just
supported the downtown uh South Lion for
[1:43:55] many, many years. And if anybody needs a
nice vacation, it's uh Debbie and Doug.
[1:44:01] And um good luck to you and we'll check
in with you when you come back in
[1:44:05] September.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[1:44:08] » Thank you, council member. Council
member Bogart.
[1:44:10] » Uh, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, I'd like
to start with my uh quote for the
[1:44:14] meeting, which is, "No one has ever
become poor by giving by giving." That
[1:44:19] was uh Anne Frank. And giving is much
more than just, you know, money. It's
[1:44:24] it's time.
>> And there is a real need for volunteers
[1:44:28] in this community. As you can see, we
have a need for people on the housing
[1:44:33] commission. We have other commissions
such as the parks commission that needs
[1:44:38] volunteers. And beyond the commissions,
we have South Lion Live and Pumpkinfest
[1:44:44] that are coming up. These events cannot
happen without volunteers taking a part
[1:44:49] and helping make it successful. And then
finally, I'd like to wish my lovely life
[1:44:54] a happy 25th.
>> Love you, sweetie.
[1:45:00] » Thank you.
>> Thank you, Council Member Squires. Thank
[1:45:03] you, Mr. Mayor. Uh, just wishing every
all the students a happy safe start to
[1:45:09] the school year. Good luck to all the
fall sports going on with a special good
[1:45:14] luck to the South Lion Freshman football
team and the South Lion marching band
[1:45:19] and youth hockey cuz my kids are on
those teams. Um, and uh again, a
[1:45:25] reminder that the last uh Lake Street
cruise is this Wednesday at 6:30. So,
[1:45:31] let's hope it does rain and it stops
before 6:30 so we can check out all the
[1:45:35] classic cars. Thank you.
>> Thank you, council member. Council
[1:45:38] member Hansen.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Just a quick
[1:45:41] comment uh this evening uh to stress the
importance of uh continuing to support
[1:45:46] those downtown Southline businesses. Um
I finally had the chance to visit Maple
[1:45:50] House this past week. My wife actually
beat me to visiting Maple House before I
[1:45:55] could. Um, so wanted to uh congratulate
Maple House myself and u say that the uh
[1:46:01] breakfast was great, the coffee was
awesome and uh even got to speak to the
[1:46:06] owner and and she's been just really
happy with the turnout and community
[1:46:09] support. So thank you uh to Maple House
for a great uh breakfast and um speaking
[1:46:15] of my wife actually uh I better wish her
a happy anniversary. So that's all I've
[1:46:19] got.
>> Thank you council member.
[1:46:24] Last Friday night marked the end of our
concerts in the park for this year. An
[1:46:28] evening of entertainment and food
available for folks in our community to
[1:46:31] enjoy in South Lion's historic village.
A simple pleasure that resulted from the
[1:46:36] efforts of so many folks. Tonight, I
want to recognize the individuals who
[1:46:40] made those evenings possible. I'll start
by recognizing Paulie Suski, Judy Piper,
[1:46:46] and Doug Baky from city hall who kick
things off by identifying the bands that
[1:46:50] would play, getting them under contract,
and coordinating with the food trucks
[1:46:54] for the event. Thanks also to Paulie
Suznooki for arranging with Oakland
[1:46:58] County for the use of their of their
stage for the big concert in Mcatty
[1:47:02] Park. Next, I want to thank Kim Rivera
for coordinating with the Lionary
[1:47:06] Chamber of Commerce as they provided
additional food trucks and entertainment
[1:47:10] for the concerts, especially the foam
cannon that the kids absolutely loved.
[1:47:15] In particular, I want to thank Karen and
Scott Story, Joe Knap, Jr. Idia, and
[1:47:20] Steve Archeald, and the other chamber
volunteers for their support and
[1:47:23] assistance during those events. Next, I
want to thank our Oakland County
[1:47:27] Commissioner, Phil Wipert, Frank
Fogerty, and the Southline Kuanas for
[1:47:31] providing free ice cold water for the
concertgoers and the Southline First
[1:47:35] United Methodist Church for allowing
folks to use their conveniently located
[1:47:39] parking lot. I want to thank Kristen
Spiller and the South Line Area
[1:47:43] Recreation Authority providing the
movies for providing the movies in the
[1:47:47] park on several of those concert nights
and arranging for the bounce houses,
[1:47:51] games, and activities for the kids to
enjoy until the movie started. I want to
[1:47:55] recognize the learning experience for
providing activities and crafts as well
[1:47:59] as their mascot bubbles during those
events as well as for the chess wizards
[1:48:03] for being there promoting their program
and teaching and playing chess with the
[1:48:07] kids. I want to thank the Southline DPW
crews for making sure the village green
[1:48:12] was cut and trimmed for each concert and
for setting up the screen and all the
[1:48:16] other equipment for the movies that took
place during the summer. And also thanks
[1:48:20] to the South Line Fire Department for
providing water for that foam cannon. I
[1:48:25] want to thank our sponsors for
supporting the concerts this year. The
[1:48:28] list includes Huntington Bank, Michigan
Seamless Tube, National Readymix,
[1:48:32] Rohouse Regenerative Institute,
Safebuilt, Thomas Duke Commercial Real
[1:48:36] Estate, Tropical Smoothie Cafe, HRC
Consulting Engineers, and OM Adviserss.
[1:48:43] And thanks to each and every one of the
bands that provided the entertainment on
[1:48:47] those Friday evenings. Finally, I want
to recognize the individuals who served
[1:48:52] as MC's for the concerts. That list
includes Council Member Curtzwell,
[1:48:57] Council Member Bogart, Council Member
Popa, and Judy Piper from City Hall.
[1:49:01] Thank you for spending the evening
ensuring the concert went smoothly and
[1:49:05] that the concert goers enjoyed
themselves. Again, it was a simple
[1:49:09] pleasure on a warm Friday evening that
was all made possible through the
[1:49:12] efforts of so many people. On behalf of
our community, thank you one and all for
[1:49:18] a wonderful summer of music and
entertainment. And on that, I will look
[1:49:21] for a motion to adjurnn. Council member
Kurtz.
[1:49:24] » Move to adjourn. Second.
>> We will see you on September 14th.