1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,080 the meeting to order. Everybody stand 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:03,840 for an invocation from Commissioner 3 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,600 Linda Thompson and then the pledge of 4 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,040 allegiance. 5 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,559 >> Dear Lord, we thank you for the 6 00:00:08,559 --> 00:00:10,800 privilege of gathering here today in our 7 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,440 service to our community. Help us all to 8 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,519 remember the citizens, families, and 9 00:00:15,519 --> 00:00:18,000 neighborhoods affected by the choices 10 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,039 made in this room. Inspire a spirit of 11 00:00:21,039 --> 00:00:23,519 mutual respect, patience, and courage 12 00:00:23,519 --> 00:00:26,320 among our leaders and our public. guide 13 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,320 our discussions so that we serve the 14 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,880 common good and build a stronger, safer 15 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,239 future for everyone we represent. Amen. 16 00:00:34,239 --> 00:00:36,719 >> Amen. 17 00:00:36,719 --> 00:00:38,960 >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the 18 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,120 United States of America and to the 19 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,840 republic for which it stands, one nation 20 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,640 under God, indivisible, with liberty and 21 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,680 justice for all. 22 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,079 >> Carly, if you can call the role, please. 23 00:00:52,079 --> 00:00:55,680 >> Here. Thompson here. 24 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:56,320 Penny 25 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,000 >> here. 26 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,239 All right. Well, good morning everybody. 27 00:01:00,239 --> 00:01:03,920 Um, thanks for joining us today. Today, 28 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,760 we're going to induct an agenda meeting 29 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,600 for the September 9th regular commission 30 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,520 meeting immediately followed by an 31 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,520 administrative workshop. Right now, 32 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,680 we're just going to briefly go through 33 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:18,560 the agenda items for next week. Uh, 34 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,960 looks like we've got under public 35 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:22,320 hearing, we've got an ordinance number 36 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:24,320 2026-01, 37 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:25,840 which is an ordinance of the city of 38 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,439 South Pasadena, Florida, amending 39 00:01:27,439 --> 00:01:30,560 appendix chapter A198, fees of the code 40 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,400 of ordinances relating to rates and 41 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,840 charges for sewage usage to increase the 42 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,840 base minimum monthly sewer rates and 43 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,680 sewer flow charge rate by 5%. Providing 44 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,079 an effective date will be the second and 45 00:01:44,079 --> 00:01:46,560 final reading. Uh the next item that 46 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,280 we'll review next week will be ordinance 47 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,840 number 2026-02 48 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,360 and this is an ordinance of the city of 49 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,880 South Pasadena, Florida amending 50 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,360 appendix chapter A198 fees uh fees of 51 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,159 the code of yeah fees of the code of 52 00:02:02,159 --> 00:02:03,600 ordinance relating to the rates and 53 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,079 charges for reclaimed water. Uh to 54 00:02:06,079 --> 00:02:08,479 increase the minimum monthly reclaimed 55 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:10,959 water service charge for single family 56 00:02:10,959 --> 00:02:14,800 residential customers to $13.66 66 and 57 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,040 to create the increase the commercial 58 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,920 and municipal user service charges to 59 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:21,680 $3901 60 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,720 per pvious acre and this will be a 61 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,599 second and final reading as well. Uh our 62 00:02:27,599 --> 00:02:29,680 third item will be resolution number 63 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,520 2026-06. 64 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,680 A resolution of the city commission of 65 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,360 the city of South Pasino, Florida, 66 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,000 adopting a tenative millage rate for ad 67 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,000 valerum taxes for the city of South 68 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Pasino for a fiscal year 2026 to 2027 69 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,200 and providing for an effective date. 70 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,720 Um next item, item number four will be 71 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,760 ordinance number 2026-03. 72 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,200 This is an ordinance of the city of 73 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,200 South Pasino, Florida. adopting fiscal 74 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,440 year 2026 2027 budget providing for an 75 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,040 effective date and this will be a second 76 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,080 reading. Uh then we got no unfinished 77 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,360 business. We will have the consent 78 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,200 agenda which will be the approval of the 79 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,519 minutes from August uh which are always 80 00:03:11,519 --> 00:03:14,000 available here at the office. And then 81 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,319 we'll have new business uh item number 82 00:03:16,319 --> 00:03:18,720 six which is a motion and this is to 83 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,480 approve the extension of contract for 84 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,040 legal services with Gray Robinson for 85 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,959 services as city attorney for the period 86 00:03:24,959 --> 00:03:27,599 of October 1, 2026 through September 87 00:03:27,599 --> 00:03:30,239 30th, 2027. 88 00:03:30,239 --> 00:03:33,440 Does anyone have any questions or 89 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,760 concerns over the items for next week? 90 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:36,720 >> No questions. 91 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:37,840 >> We're all good. 92 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,080 >> All right. Uh well, the agenda is 93 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,480 approved for next week and we will now 94 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,319 adjourn. 95 00:03:44,319 --> 00:04:50,950 Let's head downstairs. 96 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,960 Hold on one second. 97 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,720 >> Okay. 98 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,320 >> All right. 99 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,400 So, we're now going to call the 100 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,720 administrative workshop to order. Uh 101 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,320 probably to do the roll call one more 102 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:02,720 time. 103 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:03,280 >> Mer 104 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:03,680 >> here. 105 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:04,400 >> Magal 106 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,880 >> here. Thompson here. Reed 107 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:07,520 >> Penny 108 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,800 >> here. All right. Looks like we've got a 109 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,919 one item agenda. Uh personnel update. 110 00:05:13,919 --> 00:05:15,039 Who's handling all that? 111 00:05:15,039 --> 00:05:18,479 >> I'll come down. Some some others might join me at some point, but I'll 112 00:05:18,479 --> 00:05:21,670 come down. 113 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:27,590 » This is should be relatively brief. 114 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,919 Thank you, sir. Um, so as you know, 115 00:05:31,919 --> 00:05:34,240 we've had um a temporary office 116 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,639 assistant position in community 117 00:05:36,639 --> 00:05:38,080 improvement that was previously filled 118 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,160 and the employee moved away. So we had 119 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,479 it has been um vacant. Uh in our in our 120 00:05:44,479 --> 00:05:46,240 discussions amongst the department heads 121 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,080 and kind of looking at what the 122 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,680 potential financial situation is of the 123 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,120 city, we've been trying to find some 124 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,600 alternative solutions to our needs if 125 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,520 possible. Um and so in discussion with 126 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,360 Terry and on. We decided that it maybe 127 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,479 uh it may work out for all departments 128 00:06:04,479 --> 00:06:09,199 involved if we were to um sort of share 129 00:06:09,199 --> 00:06:11,759 the administrative assistant from public 130 00:06:11,759 --> 00:06:14,560 works into community improvement to help 131 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:19,360 fill that gap. Um so she's uh Marie has 132 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,280 worked over in C before. She she 133 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:22,639 supported them after the storms and did 134 00:06:22,639 --> 00:06:25,759 a great job. Um, and it may just be an 135 00:06:25,759 --> 00:06:27,600 easier fit that way than trying to fill 136 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,360 the temporary position again for just 137 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,280 another year and then getting rid of it 138 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:33,680 again based on our financial situation 139 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,319 and sort of the unknowns with dropping 140 00:06:36,319 --> 00:06:38,560 taxes and whatnot. Seems like a logical 141 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,800 thing to try and see if this would work. 142 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,360 wanted to discuss with you all, let you 143 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,479 know that our plan there is, if you all 144 00:06:48,479 --> 00:06:51,440 are okay with it, is to 145 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,919 remove the office assistant position 146 00:06:53,919 --> 00:06:56,160 from community improvement and actually 147 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,800 on the city's work chart listed as an 148 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,960 administrative assistant position within 149 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,280 community improvement and consider the 150 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:05,280 position a part of that department 151 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:06,960 because of the accounting that goes into 152 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,880 running that department. Yeah. If the 153 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,479 physician is going to be doing work 154 00:07:10,479 --> 00:07:13,199 there, it should be a part of that. 155 00:07:13,199 --> 00:07:14,720 >> Right. 156 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,560 >> So that's our thought there. That's 157 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:17,919 really why we wanted to bring special 158 00:07:17,919 --> 00:07:18,720 attention to it. 159 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,479 >> So you're going to change a title, you 160 00:07:20,479 --> 00:07:21,440 saying to the job? 161 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:22,880 >> Completely different position. 162 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:23,840 >> Okay. 163 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,479 >> And in theory, not consider it temporary 164 00:07:26,479 --> 00:07:29,199 over there anymore. It would be an 165 00:07:29,199 --> 00:07:30,720 administrative assistant position in 166 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,120 community improvement and then on the 167 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,039 city's work chart will leave an 168 00:07:35,039 --> 00:07:36,960 administrative assistant position listed 169 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,680 in public works but not fill it 170 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:40,800 >> if that makes sense. 171 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,440 >> Yeah. So not not adding a position more 172 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,280 shifting it from one place to the other. 173 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,720 >> Leave their case in the future it does 174 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,039 come to where we do need 175 00:07:49,039 --> 00:07:51,599 >> yeah just in case the need in the city's 176 00:07:51,599 --> 00:07:53,199 financial situation it were to make 177 00:07:53,199 --> 00:07:55,680 sense we could fill that also but for 178 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,039 right now there's a pretty significant 179 00:07:57,039 --> 00:07:58,400 need in community improvement. 180 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:59,919 >> You'll get support you need. 181 00:07:59,919 --> 00:08:02,879 >> Oh yeah yes yes 100%. 182 00:08:02,879 --> 00:08:05,599 >> Good and a lot of money. So just 183 00:08:05,599 --> 00:08:07,680 accounting wise it makes sense for it to 184 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,240 be a community improvement department 185 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,800 employee if that makes sense. So that's 186 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,319 really why we wanted to draw specific 187 00:08:14,319 --> 00:08:16,560 attention to it was I wanted to be 188 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,599 upfront about us 189 00:08:19,599 --> 00:08:21,360 >> a title showing her that she's half and 190 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,919 half just a title saying she's C. 191 00:08:23,919 --> 00:08:25,599 >> She would be administrative assistant in 192 00:08:25,599 --> 00:08:26,960 C. 193 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,800 >> That then also supports public works 194 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,039 rather than administrative assistant in 195 00:08:31,039 --> 00:08:33,519 public works supporting C. So is public 196 00:08:33,519 --> 00:08:35,200 works going to be paying any of the 197 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:35,760 salary? 198 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,200 >> Most likely no. 199 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,000 >> All come out of C. 200 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,000 >> It would depend on the amount of work, 201 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,399 >> but we think that the substantial amount 202 00:08:42,399 --> 00:08:44,240 is going to be in C. 203 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:45,519 >> Okay. So you're saying they don't do 204 00:08:45,519 --> 00:08:49,040 much work over there. 205 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,040 >> Just checking. 206 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,279 >> Kind of sound like it. You know, 207 00:08:53,279 --> 00:08:53,760 >> honestly, 208 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,600 >> she's able to do both. 209 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,200 >> A testament to honestly how well it's 210 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,120 run over there because everything is so 211 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,600 set in processes and cycles and whatnot 212 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,600 that it's They're such a welloiled 213 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,760 machine is really what I'm saying. And 214 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,959 >> by leaving position open if if he 215 00:09:08,959 --> 00:09:10,640 something came up where you needed 216 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,320 somebody could always fill it. 217 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,240 >> Exactly. So it would be listed on the 218 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,680 org chart which there will be an org 219 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:18,000 chart listed in the in the final version 220 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,839 of the budget that you all get. So I 221 00:09:19,839 --> 00:09:21,279 just didn't want to shock you. If 222 00:09:21,279 --> 00:09:23,680 there's these positions, one is just 223 00:09:23,680 --> 00:09:25,279 going to be considered vacant. It's 224 00:09:25,279 --> 00:09:27,200 there if we need it. It's built into the 225 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,600 city's system and structure, but we just 226 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,920 are not planning to fill it right now. 227 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:32,320 If 228 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,240 >> there any pay changes for this process 229 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:34,959 or anything? 230 00:09:34,959 --> 00:09:36,800 >> No, because she's already paid at an 231 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,600 administrative assistant rate. So, it's 232 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,120 >> the same. 233 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,560 >> It would be the same. Correct. It's 234 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:45,519 saving us the temporary office position. 235 00:09:45,519 --> 00:09:46,399 >> Gotcha. 236 00:09:46,399 --> 00:09:48,080 >> Office assistant position. 237 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,000 >> It was a lower pay scale, but it was an 238 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,200 additional pay. 239 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,560 >> You guys have all chatted this out. 240 00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:53,600 You're good. And 241 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,320 >> we have. Yeah. And Marie helped us so 242 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,240 much during the storms that I it I think 243 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,760 it's going to be a good fit. She also 244 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,600 used to work over there. 245 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,519 >> She used to do back and forth anyway. 246 00:10:03,519 --> 00:10:06,080 >> Yeah. 247 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,839 She's good at what she does and 248 00:10:07,839 --> 00:10:11,120 >> you know it'll we'll we'll be okay. 249 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,080 >> And I can 250 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,320 >> going away 251 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,069 fast two fingers. 252 00:10:18,079 --> 00:10:18,320 » Yeah. 253 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,560 >> But no, we're good. We're We'll be We'll 254 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:21,120 be good. 255 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,160 >> Good. 256 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,600 >> Okay. 257 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,720 >> Yeah, it'll work. Sean and I are 258 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,000 talking. 259 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,720 >> Right. So there's nothing voting wise or 260 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:31,519 anything. It just 261 00:10:31,519 --> 00:10:33,519 >> Well, well, I mean, we do want your 262 00:10:33,519 --> 00:10:36,000 approval to to do that. It is replacing 263 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,360 a temporary position. 264 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,000 >> Everybody's good with the 265 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,880 >> consensus. It's saving us money. 266 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,720 >> It's saving us money to do it this way. 267 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,399 >> Okay, perfect. 268 00:10:44,399 --> 00:10:46,079 >> And we would continue. It wouldn't just 269 00:10:46,079 --> 00:10:46,880 be for the year. 270 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,240 >> Yeah, it would be 271 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,800 >> on and on and on and on. 272 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:57,040 >> So that's indefinitely is is kind of the plan. So that's the one thing. I 273 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,200 have one other Just to let you all know, 274 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,680 um, we have some calls set up this week. 275 00:11:01,680 --> 00:11:04,720 Um, we've had a reserve employee in the 276 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,040 fire department, um, who recently, uh, 277 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,440 got orders for a three-year active duty 278 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,959 deployment. Um, so his his orders 279 00:11:14,959 --> 00:11:17,440 previously had been much shorter than 280 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,120 that, few weeks at a time, maybe a 281 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,680 month. Um, yeah, he just got threeear 282 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:23,200 orders. And so we're going to be 283 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,800 evaluating 284 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,360 um how we handle that in terms of we'll 285 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,839 need to hire for that position. And then 286 00:11:29,839 --> 00:11:32,160 we just need to be ready with a plan in 287 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,959 place for when he returns. If he returns 288 00:11:34,959 --> 00:11:36,320 to employment here with the city, we 289 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:44,240 have to make sure that we are doing what we need to do um for him if he chooses to come back to the city. 290 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:45,519 Sometimes when people have that long of 291 00:11:45,519 --> 00:11:47,839 a deployment, their lives change. They 292 00:11:47,839 --> 00:11:49,519 don't necessarily want to go back to 293 00:11:49,519 --> 00:11:51,360 where they were. We don't we don't know. 294 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:52,640 But we just want to make sure that we 295 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,079 have a plan in place and that we know 296 00:11:54,079 --> 00:11:56,399 what our responsibilities are to make 297 00:11:56,399 --> 00:11:58,399 sure that he's planned for. 298 00:11:58,399 --> 00:12:01,680 >> So he's becomes off the books for us for 299 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:03,519 that period of time technically. 300 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:05,519 >> So he he's still a city employee. He 301 00:12:05,519 --> 00:12:07,519 stays on unless he chooses to resign 302 00:12:07,519 --> 00:12:09,440 which he doesn't need to. He stays on 303 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,560 the books. He's just not paid anything. 304 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:15,519 He stops acrewing anything. But he is 305 00:12:15,519 --> 00:12:17,360 considered an employee. It's pensionable 306 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,760 service. 307 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:20,880 >> Yeah. He stops 308 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,079 >> how does he how does a new 309 00:12:22,079 --> 00:12:23,680 >> No, he's still it's still pensionable 310 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:25,920 term of service. He is an employee with 311 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,920 the city. He's just not getting paid 312 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,360 >> because it's military. Yeah. 313 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,279 >> So, his pension increases. 314 00:12:31,279 --> 00:12:32,560 >> It continues to 315 00:12:32,560 --> 00:12:34,639 >> this counts as years of service. 316 00:12:34,639 --> 00:12:35,519 >> Okay. 317 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:38,000 >> Unless he were to resign, which is his 318 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,480 choice, but um he's dropped off of the 319 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:41,839 city's health insurance. He does get 320 00:12:41,839 --> 00:12:44,720 health insurance through the military. 321 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,639 Um 322 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:48,639 >> how does a new person come in? They are 323 00:12:48,639 --> 00:12:52,320 they're like kind of like a ops op, you 324 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,240 know, optional personal services or 325 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,360 >> I mean that's kind of what we're going 326 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,440 to look at. Most likely not. Our our 327 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,120 hope there I think and we're going to 328 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,720 need to we have calls set up for 329 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,480 tomorrow and Thursday on this to try to 330 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,560 get a a plan in place to make sure that 331 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:06,399 we're doing what we need to do. The hope 332 00:13:06,399 --> 00:13:07,839 there is that we can fill the position 333 00:13:07,839 --> 00:13:10,720 and then it naturally will staffing will 334 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,240 adjust because three years is a long 335 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,639 time and there's you know potentially 336 00:13:14,639 --> 00:13:17,920 turnover in that three years. So there 337 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,079 it's kind of it's a moving target. 338 00:13:20,079 --> 00:13:22,079 Obviously you can't hold anyone to any 339 00:13:22,079 --> 00:13:24,480 anything and we plan for everybody to be 340 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:25,920 here for as long as they would like to 341 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:26,880 be. Um 342 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,200 >> but they know that's coming in that the 343 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,360 spot could be might only be for three 344 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,440 years. Is that how you tell this person 345 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:34,480 that they're hired or 346 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:35,760 >> probably not? 347 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,399 >> Um I hesitate to answer some of those 348 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:41,040 questions at this moment. Um, no. It 349 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,040 would most likely be hiring for a 350 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,079 full-time on staff position with no no 351 00:13:46,079 --> 00:13:48,639 terms of 352 00:13:48,639 --> 00:13:50,240 >> years and then we would the the 353 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,680 difficult part would be adjusting and 354 00:13:51,680 --> 00:13:53,200 adapting when the other employee 355 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,800 returns. 356 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,320 >> That's we have to make sure that we're 357 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,120 fair to both if that makes sense. 358 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,079 >> So, worst case you'd be hiring an extra 359 00:14:02,079 --> 00:14:04,800 firefighter in the end if he came back. 360 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:05,920 >> So, there was turnover. 361 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,360 >> Okay. If there was no turn, 362 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,720 >> we'll we'll make sure that we know what 363 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,399 the city's obligations are truly and 364 00:14:10,399 --> 00:14:13,839 that we're, you know, fair and plan. 365 00:14:13,839 --> 00:14:15,839 >> It's it's a very difficult thing to to 366 00:14:15,839 --> 00:14:18,079 plan for, unfortunately. So, we're going 367 00:14:18,079 --> 00:14:20,880 to kind of have some contingency plans. 368 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,040 >> Couple months ago, we were talking about 369 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,120 the state legislating that we might have 370 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,600 to add a force shift so that we went to 371 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,199 a 40-hour work week. Do we know if 372 00:14:29,199 --> 00:14:30,560 that's getting any closer? Because that 373 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,199 would encompass all this. Um, right now 374 00:14:33,199 --> 00:14:35,519 the the focus is so on property taxes 375 00:14:35,519 --> 00:14:37,760 that everything else is kind of kind of 376 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,360 paused both at the state level and 377 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,440 locally. Um, I think 378 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,639 >> cities are not blind to the fact that is most likely coming down the pike 379 00:14:44,639 --> 00:14:47,120 at some point. Now whether that's a year 380 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,000 two, three or six, seven or eight, it is 381 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,560 most likely going to happen. I think the 382 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,480 property tax changes, if that passes, 383 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,079 could really affect the time frame of 384 00:14:56,079 --> 00:14:58,480 that because if that passes, you are 385 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,720 significantly limiting the financial 386 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,560 abilities of a lot of local governments. 387 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,720 And so, if you're wanting to make some 388 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,240 changes in that, you are slowing our 389 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,320 ability to do that if if the property 390 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,120 tax legislation passes. So, a lot of 391 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:12,800 that is sort of paused. The the thinking 392 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,600 is it's going to happen. It's just when 393 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,680 >> So, 394 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,519 if that makes sense. So, I just wanted 395 00:15:19,519 --> 00:15:21,199 to let you all know that. So if and when 396 00:15:21,199 --> 00:15:23,279 you see us advertising a position for a 397 00:15:23,279 --> 00:15:25,519 firefighter, that's that's what it is. 398 00:15:25,519 --> 00:15:26,720 >> So and that we're going to do 399 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,279 >> you're fully staffed right now? 400 00:15:29,279 --> 00:15:30,560 >> Yes. 401 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,040 >> Or is there there's no openings at this 402 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:33,920 time? 403 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:34,959 >> Okay. 404 00:15:34,959 --> 00:15:36,000 >> No. 405 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:36,560 >> Okay. 406 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,160 >> So just just the one we're about to 407 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:38,800 post. 408 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:39,120 >> Okay. 409 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,079 >> Right. Right. 410 00:15:40,079 --> 00:15:41,760 >> So the only openings we have right now 411 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,800 in the city is finance. 412 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,829 >> Okay. 413 00:15:47,839 --> 00:15:49,519 All right. Anybody else have any 414 00:15:49,519 --> 00:15:51,279 questions or anything? 415 00:15:51,279 --> 00:15:53,759 >> No. Nothing else for us? 416 00:15:53,759 --> 00:15:55,199 >> That was it. I just want to let you all 417 00:15:55,199 --> 00:15:56,160 know 418 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,839 >> we're we're working on it. So, I don't 419 00:15:57,839 --> 00:15:59,199 know if any of the other directors have 420 00:15:59,199 --> 00:16:00,959 anything, but that's all. That's all for 421 00:16:00,959 --> 00:16:01,600 me. 422 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,279 >> All right. Anybody else over there got 423 00:16:03,279 --> 00:16:05,199 anything you wanted to say or no? Just 424 00:16:05,199 --> 00:16:08,240 want to come up hand or nothing. Okay. 425 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,320 All right. Well, then we are going to 426 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,199 adjourn. 427 00:16:13,199 --> 00:16:17,670 >> Great. 428 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,240 have a chance. 429 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:24,720 It only takes a minute, girl.