1 00:00:15,770 --> 00:00:16,110 city council meeting. 2 00:00:16,110 --> 00:00:17,613 >> good ever wantoning, I 3 00:00:17,613 --> 00:00:18,113 would like to call the 4 00:00:18,113 --> 00:00:20,113 regular 5 00:00:21,149 --> 00:00:23,549 city council meeting for 6 00:00:24,153 --> 00:00:24,520 wednesday MARCH 26, 2025 to 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,520 order. 8 00:00:27,423 --> 00:00:28,123 MAY I please have roll call. 9 00:00:28,123 --> 00:00:29,240 >> councilmember coleman? 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:29,958 >> here. 11 00:00:29,958 --> 00:00:31,360 >> councilmember nagales? 12 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:32,600 >> here. 13 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:32,795 >> councilmember nicolas 14 00:00:32,795 --> 00:00:33,962 ?Frjts present. 15 00:00:33,962 --> 00:00:35,130 >> vice mayor addiego? 16 00:00:35,130 --> 00:00:35,831 >> here. 17 00:00:35,831 --> 00:00:37,831 >> mayor flores? 18 00:00:38,434 --> 00:00:41,270 >> I am present, thank you. 19 00:00:41,270 --> 00:00:42,571 Tonight we have as I've been 20 00:00:42,571 --> 00:00:44,707 doing two special guests that 21 00:00:44,707 --> 00:00:45,174 will lead us in pledge of 22 00:00:45,174 --> 00:00:47,174 allegiance. 23 00:00:48,210 --> 00:00:50,790 I would like to invite 24 00:00:50,790 --> 00:00:52,615 jonathan I.Pak who is five 25 00:00:52,615 --> 00:00:54,249 years old in transitional 26 00:00:54,249 --> 00:00:55,484 kindergarten at our lady o 27 00:00:55,484 --> 00:00:57,484 mercy. 28 00:00:58,287 --> 00:00:59,455 He also plays tee ball for 29 00:00:59,455 --> 00:01:01,855 south san francisco yuth 30 00:01:02,425 --> 00:01:06,250 baseball and he's in the kids 31 00:01:06,395 --> 00:01:08,931 gym in south city as well as 32 00:01:08,931 --> 00:01:09,865 dylan munsayak who is 14 33 00:01:09,865 --> 00:01:11,865 years 34 00:01:14,303 --> 00:01:17,303 old, 8th grader at st. 35 00:01:17,340 --> 00:01:19,642 Veronica's sx, teen gym in 36 00:01:19,642 --> 00:01:21,430 south city to lead us in the 37 00:01:21,430 --> 00:01:22,445 pledge of allegiance this 38 00:01:22,445 --> 00:01:23,746 evening, so please stand if 39 00:01:23,746 --> 00:01:24,114 you are able to and place 40 00:01:24,114 --> 00:01:24,914 your 41 00:01:24,914 --> 00:01:26,416 right has happened over your 42 00:01:26,416 --> 00:01:30,160 heart and I will have them 43 00:01:31,530 --> 00:01:34,653 lead us in the pledge of 44 00:01:34,957 --> 00:01:35,725 allegiance. 45 00:01:35,725 --> 00:01:36,493 >> I pledge allegiance to the 46 00:01:36,493 --> 00:01:37,226 flag of the united states of 47 00:01:37,226 --> 00:01:37,894 america and to the republic 48 00:01:37,894 --> 00:01:38,294 for which it stands one 49 00:01:38,294 --> 00:01:39,620 nation 50 00:01:39,620 --> 00:01:41,462 under GOD, indivisible, with 51 00:01:46,736 --> 00:01:49,539 liberty and justice for all. 52 00:01:49,539 --> 00:01:51,141 >> thank you very much. 53 00:01:51,141 --> 00:01:51,508 Stay right tl. Let's give 54 00:01:51,508 --> 00:01:53,508 them 55 00:01:53,710 --> 00:01:54,177 a hand, why don't we do that. 56 00:01:54,177 --> 00:01:56,177 [Applause]. 57 00:01:56,679 --> 00:01:58,515 And I would like to present 58 00:01:58,515 --> 00:01:59,215 dylan and jonathan with two 59 00:01:59,215 --> 00:02:01,215 of 60 00:02:02,686 --> 00:02:05,686 our official city key pins 61 00:02:07,624 --> 00:02:10,624 this evening, so I'll come 62 00:02:11,795 --> 00:02:14,231 down and we'll take a picture. 63 00:02:14,231 --> 00:02:16,231 >> he's coming down. 64 00:02:46,330 --> 00:02:47,931 (Taking photograph). 65 00:02:47,931 --> 00:02:49,931 >> great. 66 00:02:52,937 --> 00:02:53,337 Let's have next agenda item, 67 00:02:53,337 --> 00:02:54,104 please. 68 00:02:54,104 --> 00:02:55,806 >> thank you, MAY yo, moving 69 00:02:55,806 --> 00:02:58,206 on to agenda review. 70 00:02:58,342 --> 00:02:59,430 >> we hve no changes to the 71 00:02:59,430 --> 00:02:59,843 agenda, mayor flores. 72 00:02:59,843 --> 00:03:01,843 >> thank you. 73 00:03:02,790 --> 00:03:03,247 >> thank you, moving on to 74 00:03:03,247 --> 00:03:04,315 levine act disclosures, does 75 00:03:04,315 --> 00:03:05,816 the council have anything to 76 00:03:05,816 --> 00:03:07,551 report tonight? 77 00:03:07,551 --> 00:03:09,185 Thank you. 78 00:03:09,185 --> 00:03:10,210 And we'll move on to 79 00:03:10,210 --> 00:03:12,210 announcements pr staff. 80 00:03:23,267 --> 00:03:25,103 >> great. 81 00:03:25,103 --> 00:03:26,738 >> welcome, chief samson? 82 00:03:26,738 --> 00:03:29,738 >> thank you, I'm trying to 83 00:03:30,775 --> 00:03:32,377 get the slide up here. 84 00:03:32,377 --> 00:03:32,710 I'm going to stop before I 85 00:03:32,710 --> 00:03:34,110 get 86 00:03:34,110 --> 00:03:36,110 too crazy. 87 00:03:39,651 --> 00:03:42,510 >> good evening, mayor eddie, 88 00:03:42,420 --> 00:03:43,787 matt samson, your fire chief, 89 00:03:43,787 --> 00:03:44,188 first we're incredibly 90 00:03:44,188 --> 00:03:46,900 excited 91 00:03:46,900 --> 00:03:49,327 for next friday the 4th, it's 92 00:03:49,327 --> 00:03:50,929 a really big day for nt only 93 00:03:50,929 --> 00:03:53,929 our department but for our 94 00:03:54,990 --> 00:03:55,667 city to christen the city's 95 00:03:55,667 --> 00:03:59,170 brand new fire boat, it will 96 00:03:59,170 --> 00:04:00,305 take place on friday the 4th 97 00:04:00,305 --> 00:04:01,473 at oyster point, a little 98 00:04:01,473 --> 00:04:03,274 history of the water rescue 99 00:04:03,274 --> 00:04:05,243 program ask a water show and 100 00:04:05,243 --> 00:04:05,610 ip viet the public on the 101 00:04:05,610 --> 00:04:06,844 boat 102 00:04:06,844 --> 00:04:07,312 for tours if they'd like to 103 00:04:07,312 --> 00:04:09,312 come. 104 00:04:09,881 --> 00:04:11,783 We hope to see everyone there. 105 00:04:11,783 --> 00:04:12,684 Second, in support of our 106 00:04:12,684 --> 00:04:13,840 public outreach to help 107 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:13,851 inform 108 00:04:13,851 --> 00:04:14,286 our community about the 109 00:04:14,286 --> 00:04:16,286 impact 110 00:04:17,322 --> 00:04:18,623 tos the state's most recent 111 00:04:18,623 --> 00:04:18,990 fire hazard severity zone 112 00:04:18,990 --> 00:04:19,891 maps 113 00:04:19,891 --> 00:04:21,260 released at the end of 114 00:04:21,260 --> 00:04:21,426 FEBRUARY websinger ear 115 00:04:21,426 --> 00:04:23,426 hosting 116 00:04:23,895 --> 00:04:26,198 our town hall 65 at the terra 117 00:04:26,198 --> 00:04:29,100 bay neighborhood up on APRIL 118 00:04:29,100 --> 00:04:30,868 7, that will go from 6:30 to 119 00:04:30,868 --> 00:04:33,171 8:30 and we're here to answer 120 00:04:33,171 --> 00:04:34,773 questions regarding the fire 121 00:04:34,773 --> 00:04:36,375 hazard severity zone mps but 122 00:04:36,375 --> 00:04:37,542 also anything wild fire 123 00:04:37,542 --> 00:04:38,643 related, any comments or 124 00:04:38,643 --> 00:04:41,430 comments or anything the 125 00:04:41,379 --> 00:04:42,547 public would like to know how 126 00:04:42,547 --> 00:04:42,915 they can make their home 127 00:04:42,915 --> 00:04:44,383 safer 128 00:04:44,383 --> 00:04:44,750 from wild fire and is the 129 00:04:44,750 --> 00:04:46,452 town 130 00:04:46,452 --> 00:04:50,522 hall is open to anyone in the 131 00:04:50,522 --> 00:04:50,889 city, we hope to see everyone 132 00:04:50,889 --> 00:04:51,723 there. 133 00:04:51,723 --> 00:04:52,858 >> I have a question. 134 00:04:52,858 --> 00:04:54,858 >> please. 135 00:04:56,695 --> 00:04:59,532 >> if I could, so I know that 136 00:04:59,532 --> 00:05:01,932 these fire hazard severity 137 00:05:02,334 --> 00:05:03,502 maps, are they through fema 138 00:05:03,502 --> 00:05:05,805 ?Frnlts they're produced by 139 00:05:05,805 --> 00:05:07,406 cal fire and they're released 140 00:05:07,406 --> 00:05:08,941 by mandate under state 141 00:05:08,941 --> 00:05:09,809 ordinance to incorporate all 142 00:05:09,809 --> 00:05:10,876 the etire state of 143 00:05:10,876 --> 00:05:12,876 california. 144 00:05:12,979 --> 00:05:14,113 >> where you fall on that 145 00:05:14,113 --> 00:05:15,548 map, 146 00:05:15,548 --> 00:05:16,449 does that determine maybe an 147 00:05:16,449 --> 00:05:18,751 impact to your home insurance? 148 00:05:18,751 --> 00:05:20,620 >> that is a current concern 149 00:05:20,620 --> 00:05:23,620 right now, we've been assured 150 00:05:23,756 --> 00:05:24,991 that these maps do not impact 151 00:05:24,991 --> 00:05:26,993 insurance rate and is we'll 152 00:05:26,993 --> 00:05:28,695 spend a a quite a bit of time 153 00:05:28,695 --> 00:05:29,462 why we agree with that 154 00:05:29,462 --> 00:05:30,950 perspective during the town 155 00:05:30,950 --> 00:05:31,263 hall. 156 00:05:31,263 --> 00:05:33,663 >> okay, thank you, chief. 157 00:05:35,968 --> 00:05:37,968 >> thank you. 158 00:05:38,838 --> 00:05:41,140 >> we'll go on without the 159 00:05:41,140 --> 00:05:42,475 slide, but I'm very excited 160 00:05:42,475 --> 00:05:42,976 also as the third 161 00:05:42,976 --> 00:05:44,177 announcement 162 00:05:44,177 --> 00:05:45,144 tonight, I would like to 163 00:05:45,144 --> 00:05:47,144 announce officially and 164 00:05:47,213 --> 00:05:50,213 introduce our new dputy fire 165 00:05:50,916 --> 00:05:53,316 chief, devon flannery, he's 166 00:05:54,420 --> 00:05:56,220 been with the city for 23 167 00:05:56,220 --> 00:05:56,756 years, and started in the 168 00:05:56,756 --> 00:05:58,756 fire 169 00:06:01,528 --> 00:06:04,264 service as an explorer and 170 00:06:04,264 --> 00:06:06,132 spent quite a bit of time in 171 00:06:06,132 --> 00:06:07,500 the pacific palisades area. 172 00:06:07,500 --> 00:06:09,900 With our department, chief 173 00:06:11,438 --> 00:06:12,439 flannery has served as 174 00:06:12,439 --> 00:06:14,839 paramedic firefighter, ba tan 175 00:06:20,580 --> 00:06:22,482 I -- battalion fire chief. 176 00:06:22,482 --> 00:06:22,949 Chief flannery has invested 177 00:06:22,949 --> 00:06:24,350 in 178 00:06:24,350 --> 00:06:24,818 his own education, he was 179 00:06:24,818 --> 00:06:26,687 able 180 00:06:26,687 --> 00:06:27,354 to obtain his undergarage 181 00:06:27,354 --> 00:06:29,189 walt 182 00:06:29,189 --> 00:06:30,357 degree from san francisco 183 00:06:30,357 --> 00:06:31,992 state, a doctoral degree f 184 00:06:31,992 --> 00:06:32,926 the university of southern 185 00:06:32,926 --> 00:06:33,393 california in education so, 186 00:06:33,393 --> 00:06:34,794 he 187 00:06:34,794 --> 00:06:37,364 brings a unique skill set and 188 00:06:37,364 --> 00:06:37,831 a lot of capabilities to our 189 00:06:37,831 --> 00:06:39,633 department. 190 00:06:39,633 --> 00:06:39,967 We're going to leverage him 191 00:06:39,967 --> 00:06:41,335 to 192 00:06:41,335 --> 00:06:43,337 make sure we can advance the 193 00:06:43,337 --> 00:06:44,504 department to the future, s 194 00:06:44,504 --> 00:06:46,607 I'm excited and I would like 195 00:06:46,607 --> 00:06:46,973 to bring him up for a few 196 00:06:46,973 --> 00:06:48,973 words. 197 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,440 >> con -- congratulations, 198 00:06:54,248 --> 00:06:56,160 let's bring him up, please. 199 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,584 [Applause]. 200 00:06:57,584 --> 00:06:59,530 >> good evening, council, i 201 00:06:59,530 --> 00:07:00,453 want to thank the fire chief 202 00:07:00,453 --> 00:07:02,323 for believes in me, it's been 203 00:07:02,323 --> 00:07:02,690 a a pleasure to serve the 204 00:07:02,690 --> 00:07:03,323 city 205 00:07:03,323 --> 00:07:03,891 the last 230 23 206 00:07:03,891 --> 00:07:04,458 years, I 207 00:07:04,458 --> 00:07:06,160 look 208 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,795 forward to the next 209 00:07:07,795 --> 00:07:08,128 opportunity in my new role 210 00:07:08,128 --> 00:07:09,563 and 211 00:07:09,563 --> 00:07:10,597 using my skill set to further 212 00:07:10,597 --> 00:07:11,565 the mission of the fire 213 00:07:11,565 --> 00:07:11,999 department, I want to thank 214 00:07:11,999 --> 00:07:13,999 everybody. 215 00:07:18,973 --> 00:07:19,607 >> thank you, con fwrafp -- 216 00:07:19,607 --> 00:07:21,607 congratulations again. 217 00:07:22,309 --> 00:07:23,430 >> thank you. 218 00:07:23,430 --> 00:07:25,430 [Applause]. 219 00:07:25,179 --> 00:07:28,179 >> alright, now I would like 220 00:07:28,316 --> 00:07:29,583 to do a special I guess 221 00:07:29,583 --> 00:07:30,885 announcement, recognition and 222 00:07:30,885 --> 00:07:31,251 for that, I would like to 223 00:07:31,251 --> 00:07:33,870 turn 224 00:07:33,870 --> 00:07:34,880 it over to our city manager, 225 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,880 sharon ranals. 226 00:07:36,457 --> 00:07:37,892 >> good evening, I'm sharon 227 00:07:37,892 --> 00:07:38,593 ranals, city manager, she is 228 00:07:38,593 --> 00:07:38,960 not expecting this but I 229 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,960 would 230 00:07:41,762 --> 00:07:44,762 like to call up christina 231 00:07:48,403 --> 00:07:50,171 fernandez if I could. 232 00:07:50,171 --> 00:07:50,972 Hi, chris taoep na. 233 00:07:50,972 --> 00:07:51,272 >> hi. 234 00:07:51,272 --> 00:07:53,272 Er 235 00:07:53,508 --> 00:07:53,975 >> so, tonight is 236 00:07:53,975 --> 00:07:55,143 christina's 237 00:07:55,143 --> 00:07:55,443 last city council meeting as 238 00:07:55,443 --> 00:07:57,443 a 239 00:07:57,445 --> 00:08:01,450 city employee, we hope to see 240 00:08:01,249 --> 00:08:01,683 her at future council 241 00:08:01,683 --> 00:08:03,510 meetings 242 00:08:03,510 --> 00:08:03,718 because she is still a a 243 00:08:03,718 --> 00:08:04,452 resident, christina has 244 00:08:04,452 --> 00:08:05,186 accepted a position as the 245 00:08:05,186 --> 00:08:06,540 assistant city manager with 246 00:08:06,540 --> 00:08:07,210 the city of brisbane which is 247 00:08:07,210 --> 00:08:08,857 a promotional opportunity for 248 00:08:08,857 --> 00:08:10,692 her so we're happy for 249 00:08:10,692 --> 00:08:12,227 christina but we are very sad 250 00:08:12,227 --> 00:08:13,695 to see her go. 251 00:08:13,695 --> 00:08:14,620 christina has been in the 252 00:08:14,620 --> 00:08:15,960 city 253 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:15,463 manager's office for six 254 00:08:15,463 --> 00:08:16,797 years 255 00:08:16,797 --> 00:08:19,200 and during that time, she's 256 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:19,634 worked on a number of 257 00:08:19,634 --> 00:08:21,360 projects 258 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:22,671 including many grant 259 00:08:22,671 --> 00:08:23,405 applications, many grant 260 00:08:23,405 --> 00:08:23,738 reports, legislative niche 261 00:08:23,738 --> 00:08:25,738 yat 262 00:08:26,408 --> 00:08:26,775 I fevers such as minimum 263 00:08:26,775 --> 00:08:28,743 wage, 264 00:08:28,743 --> 00:08:30,378 styrofoam reach codes and 265 00:08:30,378 --> 00:08:32,414 could back koe which we'll 266 00:08:32,414 --> 00:08:32,848 hear about and emergency 267 00:08:32,848 --> 00:08:34,549 response. 268 00:08:34,549 --> 00:08:35,650 She has also been our 269 00:08:35,650 --> 00:08:36,840 sustainability officer and 270 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:37,686 has 271 00:08:37,686 --> 00:08:37,986 served as staff liaison with 272 00:08:37,986 --> 00:08:39,986 a 273 00:08:40,656 --> 00:08:42,590 null of outside agencies such 274 00:08:42,590 --> 00:08:44,660 as wet sxa, the harbor 275 00:08:44,660 --> 00:08:45,827 district, one of christina's 276 00:08:45,827 --> 00:08:48,697 major projects has been to 277 00:08:48,697 --> 00:08:49,732 establish a a community 278 00:08:49,732 --> 00:08:51,330 district which is progress 279 00:08:51,330 --> 00:08:51,366 thanks to her effort and is 280 00:08:51,366 --> 00:08:52,534 we 281 00:08:52,534 --> 00:08:53,936 hope it will be successful. 282 00:08:53,936 --> 00:08:54,303 I think there's a special 283 00:08:54,303 --> 00:08:56,303 bond 284 00:08:56,672 --> 00:08:58,540 among the staff who served 285 00:08:58,540 --> 00:08:58,874 during covid and christina 286 00:08:58,874 --> 00:09:00,874 was 287 00:09:00,909 --> 00:09:02,544 really instrumental in 288 00:09:02,544 --> 00:09:04,646 organizing -- I'm getting 289 00:09:04,646 --> 00:09:08,246 choked up -- covid was a 290 00:09:08,317 --> 00:09:10,152 trying time, she was 291 00:09:10,152 --> 00:09:10,853 instrumental in organizing 292 00:09:10,853 --> 00:09:11,587 vaccination clinic, food 293 00:09:11,587 --> 00:09:11,921 distributions, maintaining 294 00:09:11,921 --> 00:09:12,988 the 295 00:09:12,988 --> 00:09:14,323 continuity of operations as 296 00:09:14,323 --> 00:09:16,425 well as staff morale and we 297 00:09:16,425 --> 00:09:18,961 owe her a lot of appreciation. 298 00:09:18,961 --> 00:09:20,429 So w that, I have this little 299 00:09:20,429 --> 00:09:21,530 token of appreciation which 300 00:09:21,530 --> 00:09:24,330 christina, I want dwrou hang 301 00:09:24,330 --> 00:09:26,102 this in your office in 302 00:09:26,102 --> 00:09:29,102 brisbane, just a reminder of 303 00:09:29,338 --> 00:09:32,938 all your friends in south san 304 00:09:34,777 --> 00:09:36,679 francisco. 305 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,515 >> oh my gosh, thank you. 306 00:09:39,515 --> 00:09:42,515 >> nice picture of city hall. 307 00:09:43,786 --> 00:09:44,453 >> thank you so much. 308 00:09:44,453 --> 00:09:46,453 [Applause]. 309 00:09:47,790 --> 00:09:48,858 And I'm putting you on the 310 00:09:48,858 --> 00:09:49,225 spot, I don't know if you 311 00:09:49,225 --> 00:09:50,590 want 312 00:09:50,590 --> 00:09:51,127 to say a few words. 313 00:09:51,127 --> 00:09:52,528 >> first of all, thank you so 314 00:09:52,528 --> 00:09:52,962 much to sharon and to 315 00:09:52,962 --> 00:09:54,962 everyone 316 00:09:55,698 --> 00:09:56,165 and to all of you for your 317 00:09:56,165 --> 00:09:57,320 leadership. 318 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,360 You know, when I was brought 319 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:01,637 on board, I wasn't quite sure 320 00:10:01,637 --> 00:10:03,306 what to expect. 321 00:10:03,306 --> 00:10:04,907 Initially I was to serve as a 322 00:10:04,907 --> 00:10:07,277 commissioner for the city and 323 00:10:07,277 --> 00:10:10,146 then I got recruited to come 324 00:10:10,146 --> 00:10:10,613 work for the city and for 325 00:10:10,613 --> 00:10:11,247 that 326 00:10:11,247 --> 00:10:12,715 I'm forever grateful. 327 00:10:12,715 --> 00:10:14,350 I have a vested interest in 328 00:10:14,350 --> 00:10:15,518 seeing the city succeed and 329 00:10:15,518 --> 00:10:18,880 I'm very, very proud of the 330 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:19,255 work that the staff has done, 331 00:10:19,255 --> 00:10:21,391 the staff goes above and 332 00:10:21,391 --> 00:10:22,959 beyond every day for the 333 00:10:22,959 --> 00:10:24,427 community and I just feel so 334 00:10:24,427 --> 00:10:27,397 grateful to have been a small 335 00:10:27,397 --> 00:10:28,698 part of it, just a big thanks 336 00:10:28,698 --> 00:10:31,101 to sharon for her leadership 337 00:10:31,101 --> 00:10:31,868 and to all of you for your 338 00:10:31,868 --> 00:10:34,868 leadership and just thank you 339 00:10:35,105 --> 00:10:37,105 so much. 340 00:10:37,374 --> 00:10:39,209 [Applause]. 341 00:10:39,209 --> 00:10:40,877 >> any comments from my 342 00:10:40,877 --> 00:10:41,377 colleagues on the dais? 343 00:10:41,377 --> 00:10:43,180 >> MR. Mayor? 344 00:10:43,180 --> 00:10:45,180 >> yes. 345 00:10:46,116 --> 00:10:46,883 >> as christina staining a 346 00:10:46,883 --> 00:10:48,785 picture, christina, I wanted 347 00:10:48,785 --> 00:10:49,720 to say thank you for all your 348 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:50,887 amazing work, you're 349 00:10:50,887 --> 00:10:51,221 absolutely right, you first 350 00:10:51,221 --> 00:10:53,190 -- 351 00:10:53,190 --> 00:10:54,224 we first met you as someone 352 00:10:54,224 --> 00:10:55,359 applying as a commissioner I 353 00:10:55,359 --> 00:10:57,193 think to the planning 354 00:10:57,193 --> 00:10:58,628 commission I think it was. 355 00:10:58,628 --> 00:11:00,300 >> general plan. 356 00:11:00,300 --> 00:11:02,430 >> general plan, that' right. 357 00:11:03,333 --> 00:11:04,735 We were so amazed by you that 358 00:11:04,735 --> 00:11:07,604 we wanted to hire you. 359 00:11:07,604 --> 00:11:09,506 I just wanted to say thank 360 00:11:09,506 --> 00:11:11,740 you, this city really owes a 361 00:11:11,740 --> 00:11:12,420 great debt to you for all the 362 00:11:12,420 --> 00:11:12,376 great work you've done and 363 00:11:12,376 --> 00:11:14,376 the 364 00:11:14,478 --> 00:11:14,845 fact that you are -- ask 365 00:11:14,845 --> 00:11:16,845 still 366 00:11:17,470 --> 00:11:17,414 are a south city resident 367 00:11:17,414 --> 00:11:19,414 gave 368 00:11:19,583 --> 00:11:20,884 a unique perspective in terms 369 00:11:20,884 --> 00:11:21,652 of issues happening in south 370 00:11:21,652 --> 00:11:23,287 san francisco. 371 00:11:23,287 --> 00:11:23,654 I know you're not too far 372 00:11:23,654 --> 00:11:25,654 away 373 00:11:26,490 --> 00:11:27,424 as you go up north -- 374 00:11:27,424 --> 00:11:28,859 >> a town over. 375 00:11:28,859 --> 00:11:29,159 >> but we know you're only a 376 00:11:29,159 --> 00:11:31,159 a 377 00:11:31,395 --> 00:11:31,829 phone call away if we need 378 00:11:31,829 --> 00:11:32,329 anything. 379 00:11:32,329 --> 00:11:33,764 >> absolutely. 380 00:11:33,764 --> 00:11:35,132 >> thank you very much. 381 00:11:35,132 --> 00:11:36,670 >> thank you, councilmember. 382 00:11:36,670 --> 00:11:37,468 Anyone else? 383 00:11:37,468 --> 00:11:39,103 >> christina, of course, when 384 00:11:39,103 --> 00:11:41,172 I ws mayor, you have been a 385 00:11:41,172 --> 00:11:41,905 tremendous help and I really 386 00:11:41,905 --> 00:11:44,675 do appreciate all that you 387 00:11:44,675 --> 00:11:46,878 have done for us and for the 388 00:11:46,878 --> 00:11:47,778 city, and as a woman, I am 389 00:11:47,778 --> 00:11:49,447 very supportive of you 390 00:11:49,447 --> 00:11:49,847 climbing up the career 391 00:11:49,847 --> 00:11:51,847 ladder, 392 00:11:52,249 --> 00:11:53,417 more power to you and I'll be 393 00:11:53,417 --> 00:11:53,884 here to support you all the 394 00:11:53,884 --> 00:11:54,819 time. 395 00:11:54,819 --> 00:11:56,819 Thank you, cristina. 396 00:11:57,255 --> 00:11:59,255 >> thank you. 397 00:11:59,657 --> 00:12:01,580 >> I will say you are a 398 00:12:01,580 --> 00:12:02,860 resident of the best district 399 00:12:02,860 --> 00:12:03,194 in south san francisco and 400 00:12:03,194 --> 00:12:04,896 now 401 00:12:04,896 --> 00:12:06,130 that -- I know it was 402 00:12:06,130 --> 00:12:07,165 mentioned earlier, now that 403 00:12:07,165 --> 00:12:08,633 you're no longer employed by 404 00:12:08,633 --> 00:12:09,133 the city, maybe you could 405 00:12:09,133 --> 00:12:10,735 join 406 00:12:10,735 --> 00:12:12,370 a commission and continue to 407 00:12:12,370 --> 00:12:14,472 just be around and contribute 408 00:12:14,472 --> 00:12:16,307 b so many of your talents and 409 00:12:16,307 --> 00:12:18,743 you have many talents that 410 00:12:18,743 --> 00:12:21,143 pansies so many different 411 00:12:22,781 --> 00:12:24,616 topic areas as we noticed the 412 00:12:24,616 --> 00:12:25,984 city manager said you've done 413 00:12:25,984 --> 00:12:26,318 lots of diverse work tere 414 00:12:26,318 --> 00:12:28,318 and 415 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,520 your work on sustainability 416 00:12:31,923 --> 00:12:34,923 which the city with reach 417 00:12:37,696 --> 00:12:40,298 codes, with the poorly l -- 418 00:12:40,298 --> 00:12:42,133 polystyrene ban, I hope to 419 00:12:42,133 --> 00:12:42,534 susie you come back in the 420 00:12:42,534 --> 00:12:44,534 future. 421 00:12:45,404 --> 00:12:47,380 >> sharon hosted a lunch at 422 00:12:47,380 --> 00:12:48,773 city hall and we got the 423 00:12:48,773 --> 00:12:51,643 express ourselves and I said 424 00:12:51,643 --> 00:12:53,440 how nice it was for south san 425 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,444 francisco to have an 426 00:12:55,580 --> 00:12:56,748 operative, I had a dream of 427 00:12:56,748 --> 00:12:57,883 annexation but you don't have 428 00:12:57,883 --> 00:13:00,283 to foat that yet. 429 00:13:00,786 --> 00:13:01,653 You can't be any closer than 430 00:13:01,653 --> 00:13:03,188 brisbane, good luck to you. 431 00:13:03,188 --> 00:13:04,356 >> thank you. 432 00:13:04,356 --> 00:13:05,991 >> equally grateful for your 433 00:13:05,991 --> 00:13:07,292 time, for your dedication but 434 00:13:07,292 --> 00:13:09,261 most importantly for your 435 00:13:09,261 --> 00:13:10,194 passion as it was said as a 436 00:13:10,194 --> 00:13:12,594 resident, you certainly care 437 00:13:13,232 --> 00:13:15,133 about the city and it was 438 00:13:15,133 --> 00:13:15,467 highlighted and underscored 439 00:13:15,467 --> 00:13:16,769 in 440 00:13:16,769 --> 00:13:19,380 every presentation and every 441 00:13:19,380 --> 00:13:19,470 staff report that you 442 00:13:19,470 --> 00:13:19,972 provided 443 00:13:19,972 --> 00:13:21,840 and shared. 444 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,909 Thank you for representing, 445 00:13:23,909 --> 00:13:24,276 for being a true resident 446 00:13:24,276 --> 00:13:26,110 like 447 00:13:26,110 --> 00:13:27,179 many in this hall and around 448 00:13:27,179 --> 00:13:27,546 our community that really 449 00:13:27,546 --> 00:13:28,780 care 450 00:13:28,780 --> 00:13:30,115 about south san francisco, so 451 00:13:30,115 --> 00:13:30,649 con grafp lacing, GOD's speed 452 00:13:30,649 --> 00:13:32,649 to you. 453 00:13:32,684 --> 00:13:33,853 If I could ask city manager 454 00:13:33,853 --> 00:13:35,888 and council to join me down 455 00:13:35,888 --> 00:13:37,857 here fr a picture wth 456 00:13:37,857 --> 00:13:39,857 christina, please. 457 00:14:21,330 --> 00:14:22,468 (Taking photograph). 458 00:14:22,468 --> 00:14:24,537 >> thank you very much. 459 00:14:24,537 --> 00:14:25,238 Now we're moving o to the 460 00:14:25,238 --> 00:14:27,238 next agenda item. 461 00:14:27,774 --> 00:14:28,641 >> thank you, mayor, moving 462 00:14:28,641 --> 00:14:30,641 on 463 00:14:31,411 --> 00:14:31,911 to proclamations, 464 00:14:31,911 --> 00:14:33,480 proclamation 465 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:34,130 recognizing APRIL as fair 466 00:14:34,130 --> 00:14:34,747 housing months. 467 00:14:34,747 --> 00:14:36,449 >> I've asked councilmember 468 00:14:36,449 --> 00:14:36,950 mark nagales to present this 469 00:14:36,950 --> 00:14:38,950 proclamation. 470 00:14:40,687 --> 00:14:42,880 >> this is an honor for me to 471 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:43,456 recognize the month of APRIL 472 00:14:43,456 --> 00:14:45,856 as fair housing month. 473 00:14:47,827 --> 00:14:50,300 I had the distinct honor to 474 00:14:50,300 --> 00:14:51,398 work with project sentinel 475 00:14:51,398 --> 00:14:51,865 where we helped numerous 476 00:14:51,865 --> 00:14:53,865 south 477 00:14:54,468 --> 00:14:55,669 san francisco residents with 478 00:14:55,669 --> 00:14:56,502 tenant/landlord issues ask 479 00:14:56,502 --> 00:14:58,502 fair housing issues. 480 00:14:59,306 --> 00:15:00,940 You know, you would be 481 00:15:00,940 --> 00:15:03,900 surprised at the fact of the 482 00:15:03,900 --> 00:15:05,345 number of residents who will 483 00:15:05,345 --> 00:15:05,812 get denied for rental units 484 00:15:05,812 --> 00:15:07,812 or 485 00:15:08,382 --> 00:15:11,382 for housing based upon their 486 00:15:11,384 --> 00:15:14,984 gender or their age or the 487 00:15:15,823 --> 00:15:17,458 fact they had children and it 488 00:15:17,458 --> 00:15:19,659 was organization like project 489 00:15:19,659 --> 00:15:22,196 sentinel who went above and 490 00:15:22,196 --> 00:15:23,130 beyond to make sure all our 491 00:15:23,130 --> 00:15:24,965 residents had accessible to 492 00:15:24,965 --> 00:15:25,299 fair housing so I'm honored 493 00:15:25,299 --> 00:15:26,667 to 494 00:15:26,667 --> 00:15:28,736 recognize APRIL as fair 495 00:15:28,736 --> 00:15:30,871 housing month and to read a 496 00:15:30,871 --> 00:15:32,472 proclamation where it says 497 00:15:32,472 --> 00:15:34,107 whereas housing is a basic 498 00:15:34,107 --> 00:15:36,210 right of all people and where 499 00:15:36,210 --> 00:15:37,378 this year we celebrate the 500 00:15:37,378 --> 00:15:39,246 57th anniversary of the 501 00:15:39,246 --> 00:15:41,181 federal fair housing act of 502 00:15:41,181 --> 00:15:42,282 1968 which states that 503 00:15:42,282 --> 00:15:44,682 discrimination t sale and 504 00:15:45,719 --> 00:15:48,489 rental of housing is illegal 505 00:15:48,489 --> 00:15:49,857 and based on race, national 506 00:15:49,857 --> 00:15:51,459 origin, whereas the fair 507 00:15:51,459 --> 00:15:53,859 housing amendment act extend 508 00:15:56,396 --> 00:15:57,765 fair housing rights on 509 00:15:57,765 --> 00:15:58,933 familial status to people 510 00:15:58,933 --> 00:16:00,801 with 511 00:16:00,801 --> 00:16:02,103 children, and whereas 512 00:16:02,103 --> 00:16:04,103 california statutes protect 513 00:16:04,772 --> 00:16:05,706 its citizens on the basis of 514 00:16:05,706 --> 00:16:07,542 age, sexual orientation, 515 00:16:07,542 --> 00:16:09,643 gender identity and source of 516 00:16:09,643 --> 00:16:10,611 income and california 517 00:16:10,611 --> 00:16:11,512 celebrates the 66th 518 00:16:11,512 --> 00:16:12,246 anniversary of the fair 519 00:16:12,246 --> 00:16:12,580 employment and housing act 520 00:16:12,580 --> 00:16:14,810 and 521 00:16:14,810 --> 00:16:15,249 whereas the city of south san 522 00:16:15,249 --> 00:16:17,118 francisco supports fair 523 00:16:17,118 --> 00:16:18,553 housing efforts to eliminate 524 00:16:18,553 --> 00:16:19,921 discrimination in housing and 525 00:16:19,921 --> 00:16:22,223 recognizes the benefits of 526 00:16:22,223 --> 00:16:23,591 project sentinel to educate 527 00:16:23,591 --> 00:16:23,992 home seekers, apartment 528 00:16:23,992 --> 00:16:25,927 owners 529 00:16:25,927 --> 00:16:27,950 on federal and state housing 530 00:16:27,950 --> 00:16:28,296 laws and investigate 531 00:16:28,296 --> 00:16:29,964 complaints of illegal housing 532 00:16:29,964 --> 00:16:31,766 discrimination in south san 533 00:16:31,766 --> 00:16:32,533 francisco, whereas the 534 00:16:32,533 --> 00:16:33,868 heightened public awareness, 535 00:16:33,868 --> 00:16:35,970 the city of south san 536 00:16:35,970 --> 00:16:37,572 francisco wishes to focus 537 00:16:37,572 --> 00:16:38,740 public attention of APRIL as 538 00:16:38,740 --> 00:16:40,809 fair housing mother, now 539 00:16:40,809 --> 00:16:42,209 therefore be it resolved the 540 00:16:42,209 --> 00:16:45,313 city council of the city of 541 00:16:45,313 --> 00:16:47,649 south san francisco does 542 00:16:47,649 --> 00:16:48,416 recognize APRIL as fair 543 00:16:48,416 --> 00:16:49,150 housing month and encouraging 544 00:16:49,150 --> 00:16:49,884 all residents and community 545 00:16:49,884 --> 00:16:50,218 organizations to celebrate 546 00:16:50,218 --> 00:16:52,218 the 547 00:16:53,488 --> 00:16:54,555 value of harm nows and diverse 548 00:16:54,555 --> 00:16:56,570 [Inaudible] With neighbor and 549 00:16:56,570 --> 00:16:57,225 is this is signed by the 550 00:16:57,225 --> 00:17:00,225 entire city council and I'm 551 00:17:00,662 --> 00:17:04,165 going to ask jacob to accept 552 00:17:04,165 --> 00:17:06,165 this proclamation, jacob? 553 00:17:21,983 --> 00:17:23,983 >> welcome. 554 00:17:24,519 --> 00:17:26,155 >> so, my name's jacob, I'm a 555 00:17:26,155 --> 00:17:26,989 fair housing coordinator at 556 00:17:26,989 --> 00:17:27,355 project sentinel, I first 557 00:17:27,355 --> 00:17:29,355 want 558 00:17:29,724 --> 00:17:33,324 to thank the city council for 559 00:17:33,362 --> 00:17:34,996 your continued support of 560 00:17:34,996 --> 00:17:36,398 project sentinel. 561 00:17:36,398 --> 00:17:38,968 You know, it's been a 562 00:17:38,968 --> 00:17:41,968 difficult couple of weeks for 563 00:17:45,374 --> 00:17:47,374 fair housing. 564 00:17:48,644 --> 00:17:50,246 The public was caught around 565 00:17:50,246 --> 00:17:50,612 60-70%, our projects were 566 00:17:50,612 --> 00:17:52,612 just 567 00:17:52,815 --> 00:17:54,950 cut from the federal 568 00:17:54,950 --> 00:17:57,620 government and, you know, our 569 00:17:57,620 --> 00:17:59,522 funding has really taken -- 570 00:17:59,522 --> 00:17:59,922 we've had to take some 571 00:17:59,922 --> 00:18:01,922 drastic 572 00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:06,662 measures with our funding. 573 00:18:06,662 --> 00:18:07,630 Cities like south city 574 00:18:07,630 --> 00:18:08,864 provide 575 00:18:08,864 --> 00:18:09,332 a lot for us and it 576 00:18:09,332 --> 00:18:10,499 solidifies 577 00:18:10,499 --> 00:18:13,499 the relationship that we have 578 00:18:14,370 --> 00:18:14,737 with the cities that we work 579 00:18:14,737 --> 00:18:16,505 with. 580 00:18:16,505 --> 00:18:18,574 So, yeah, again, I want to 581 00:18:18,574 --> 00:18:19,942 thank this council for your 582 00:18:19,942 --> 00:18:21,544 continued support and I look 583 00:18:21,544 --> 00:18:22,712 forward to this year and many 584 00:18:22,712 --> 00:18:24,712 more to come. 585 00:18:29,218 --> 00:18:29,786 >> thank you very much. 586 00:18:29,786 --> 00:18:30,453 [Applause]. 587 00:18:30,453 --> 00:18:32,453 >> thank you. 588 00:18:33,220 --> 00:18:34,190 >> thank you again. 589 00:18:34,190 --> 00:18:35,758 Next agenda item, please. 590 00:18:35,758 --> 00:18:37,227 >> thank you, moving on the 591 00:18:37,227 --> 00:18:38,862 item 2 is a presentation on 592 00:18:38,862 --> 00:18:39,329 the san mateo county 593 00:18:39,329 --> 00:18:41,329 accessory 594 00:18:42,599 --> 00:18:43,660 dwelling unit adu resource 595 00:18:43,660 --> 00:18:44,934 center. 596 00:18:44,934 --> 00:18:46,436 >> good evening, mayor, vice 597 00:18:46,436 --> 00:18:47,704 MAY yo, councilmembers, billy 598 00:18:47,704 --> 00:18:48,938 gross with the planning 599 00:18:48,938 --> 00:18:50,506 commission and I have the 600 00:18:50,506 --> 00:18:51,308 pleasure of presenting the 601 00:18:51,308 --> 00:18:53,308 next speaker. 602 00:18:53,376 --> 00:18:55,211 As you all know, the adu 603 00:18:55,211 --> 00:18:58,211 resource center of san mateo 604 00:19:00,383 --> 00:19:02,383 county opened in 2024. 605 00:19:02,719 --> 00:19:03,386 It's intended as a one stop 606 00:19:03,386 --> 00:19:04,921 shop for adu resources. 607 00:19:04,921 --> 00:19:06,550 We thought it would be the 608 00:19:06,550 --> 00:19:08,458 director had offered to come 609 00:19:08,458 --> 00:19:09,659 and speak so we thought it 610 00:19:09,659 --> 00:19:10,260 would be good as we were 611 00:19:10,260 --> 00:19:12,260 going 612 00:19:12,862 --> 00:19:16,566 to be in front of you talk 613 00:19:16,566 --> 00:19:17,534 about the general plan and 614 00:19:17,534 --> 00:19:20,534 housing project, so I would 615 00:19:25,842 --> 00:19:26,610 like to introduce anna 616 00:19:26,610 --> 00:19:27,770 alekseyeva, she'll go through 617 00:19:27,770 --> 00:19:28,846 the program. 618 00:19:28,846 --> 00:19:30,246 >> thank you for giving me an 619 00:19:30,246 --> 00:19:30,581 opportunity to present the 620 00:19:30,581 --> 00:19:31,114 adu 621 00:19:31,114 --> 00:19:32,348 resource center. 622 00:19:32,348 --> 00:19:35,853 I want to give you a sense of 623 00:19:35,853 --> 00:19:37,221 what the center is all about 624 00:19:37,221 --> 00:19:38,622 sdp&services it provides to 625 00:19:38,622 --> 00:19:39,560 home owners in member 626 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:39,790 justices 627 00:19:39,790 --> 00:19:40,991 teases including south city. 628 00:19:40,991 --> 00:19:42,626 Before I do that, I wanted to 629 00:19:42,626 --> 00:19:44,495 set the stage a little bit 630 00:19:44,495 --> 00:19:45,863 about adu's in the state and 631 00:19:45,863 --> 00:19:48,465 more locally which you will 632 00:19:48,465 --> 00:19:50,800 probably be familiar with. 633 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,937 Adu's are really popular 634 00:19:52,937 --> 00:19:55,337 housing typology, ever since 635 00:19:55,673 --> 00:19:56,373 the state started 636 00:19:56,373 --> 00:19:57,474 liberalizing 637 00:19:57,474 --> 00:19:57,942 adu statute across 638 00:19:57,942 --> 00:19:59,942 california, 639 00:20:00,770 --> 00:20:02,146 the number of adu's that are 640 00:20:02,146 --> 00:20:04,582 built every single year has 641 00:20:04,582 --> 00:20:06,582 grown something like 15 642 00:20:07,484 --> 00:20:09,884 thousand percent, so hugely, 643 00:20:10,540 --> 00:20:11,489 hugely popular housing type. 644 00:20:11,489 --> 00:20:13,889 Most recent data suggesters 645 00:20:14,250 --> 00:20:15,559 that one in five new units in 646 00:20:15,559 --> 00:20:15,893 california housing units is 647 00:20:15,893 --> 00:20:17,495 an 648 00:20:17,495 --> 00:20:19,296 adu, if you look at lower 649 00:20:19,296 --> 00:20:20,965 income or very low income, 650 00:20:20,965 --> 00:20:21,465 housing units, that 651 00:20:21,465 --> 00:20:23,670 percentage 652 00:20:23,670 --> 00:20:24,769 is high e more than one third 653 00:20:24,769 --> 00:20:25,102 of housing units are adu's, 654 00:20:25,102 --> 00:20:26,404 so 655 00:20:26,404 --> 00:20:28,600 of course it's not the only 656 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:29,173 housing type but it is an 657 00:20:29,173 --> 00:20:30,341 important one across the 658 00:20:30,341 --> 00:20:31,509 state 659 00:20:31,509 --> 00:20:33,711 and more locally in sn mateo 660 00:20:33,711 --> 00:20:35,580 and in south city. 661 00:20:35,580 --> 00:20:37,140 And I think billy aluded to 662 00:20:37,140 --> 00:20:38,616 the housing element and 663 00:20:38,616 --> 00:20:40,685 progress the city has made 664 00:20:40,685 --> 00:20:42,787 around the most recent rhna 665 00:20:42,787 --> 00:20:44,856 cycle but south city has a 666 00:20:44,856 --> 00:20:47,256 goal of producing almost 400 667 00:20:47,458 --> 00:20:48,860 adu's in the current 8 year 668 00:20:48,860 --> 00:20:50,462 rhna cycle of which the 669 00:20:50,462 --> 00:20:52,463 majority are projected to be 670 00:20:52,463 --> 00:20:53,932 at the low icome or very low 671 00:20:53,932 --> 00:20:55,932 income levels. 672 00:20:56,501 --> 00:20:56,901 So we like adu's for a lot of 673 00:20:56,901 --> 00:20:58,603 reasons. 674 00:20:58,603 --> 00:21:01,603 One, because it's a housing 675 00:21:03,108 --> 00:21:05,410 type and more housing is GOD 676 00:21:05,410 --> 00:21:07,946 but they're also a housing 677 00:21:07,946 --> 00:21:08,647 type, they allow for 678 00:21:08,647 --> 00:21:09,800 multigenerational living, 679 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,800 they 680 00:21:12,150 --> 00:21:14,180 have a wealth building tool, 681 00:21:14,180 --> 00:21:14,653 they are smaller so they have 682 00:21:14,653 --> 00:21:15,887 environmental and 683 00:21:15,887 --> 00:21:17,956 sustainability benefit and is 684 00:21:17,956 --> 00:21:18,423 we know older adults like 685 00:21:18,423 --> 00:21:20,250 them 686 00:21:20,250 --> 00:21:20,358 because they allow them to 687 00:21:20,358 --> 00:21:21,893 age 688 00:21:21,893 --> 00:21:22,728 in place without having to 689 00:21:22,728 --> 00:21:24,429 leave their community. 690 00:21:24,429 --> 00:21:24,896 Is wah is adu resource 691 00:21:24,896 --> 00:21:26,896 center, 692 00:21:27,633 --> 00:21:30,633 it was launched in SEPTEMBER 693 00:21:31,503 --> 00:21:33,105 of 2024, so we just had our 694 00:21:33,105 --> 00:21:34,706 six month birthday, not -- 695 00:21:34,706 --> 00:21:36,375 still baby hood when it comes 696 00:21:36,375 --> 00:21:37,543 to being an organization, but 697 00:21:37,543 --> 00:21:40,312 wanted to share some of the 698 00:21:40,312 --> 00:21:41,460 services we have live already. 699 00:21:41,460 --> 00:21:42,448 Working with jurisdictions 700 00:21:42,448 --> 00:21:43,348 and 701 00:21:43,348 --> 00:21:45,348 with home owners. 702 00:21:45,483 --> 00:21:46,385 It is a non-profit 703 00:21:46,385 --> 00:21:48,320 organization, the funding 704 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,870 primarily comes from local 705 00:21:49,870 --> 00:21:50,222 jurisdictions like south city 706 00:21:50,222 --> 00:21:52,222 f city. 707 00:21:52,291 --> 00:21:53,892 The goal is t drive housing 708 00:21:53,892 --> 00:21:54,260 production by being a one 709 00:21:54,260 --> 00:21:56,260 stop 710 00:21:56,895 --> 00:21:59,431 shop to help get adu's built. 711 00:21:59,431 --> 00:22:00,833 We do that through two 712 00:22:00,833 --> 00:22:02,340 different mechanisms, one is 713 00:22:02,340 --> 00:22:04,103 working with jurisdictions to 714 00:22:04,103 --> 00:22:06,639 meet their adu policy goals 715 00:22:06,639 --> 00:22:07,339 and the second is working 716 00:22:07,339 --> 00:22:08,707 with 717 00:22:08,707 --> 00:22:09,141 home owners directly 718 00:22:09,141 --> 00:22:10,476 providing 719 00:22:10,476 --> 00:22:10,910 resources and direct 720 00:22:10,910 --> 00:22:11,610 technical 721 00:22:11,610 --> 00:22:11,977 assistance so I wanted to 722 00:22:11,977 --> 00:22:13,446 give 723 00:22:13,446 --> 00:22:16,415 you a flavor of each of these 724 00:22:16,415 --> 00:22:19,415 areas so you know what's 725 00:22:19,418 --> 00:22:20,586 offered to residents and sto 726 00:22:20,586 --> 00:22:22,421 -- to staff, the center 727 00:22:22,421 --> 00:22:24,256 provides a raping of support 728 00:22:24,256 --> 00:22:25,925 around housing element 729 00:22:25,925 --> 00:22:27,593 implementation related to adu 730 00:22:27,593 --> 00:22:28,294 policy goals, it elapses 731 00:22:28,294 --> 00:22:30,162 jurisdictions stay in 732 00:22:30,162 --> 00:22:31,970 compliance with hcd 733 00:22:31,970 --> 00:22:33,970 expectations and understand 734 00:22:33,866 --> 00:22:36,502 what the latest adu statutes, 735 00:22:36,502 --> 00:22:37,270 rules and standards are. 736 00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:39,670 And helps jurisdictions stay 737 00:22:40,707 --> 00:22:42,107 up to date about the latest 738 00:22:42,107 --> 00:22:44,610 adu best practices and what's 739 00:22:44,610 --> 00:22:47,213 going on at the state level. 740 00:22:47,213 --> 00:22:49,515 As you all probably know very 741 00:22:49,515 --> 00:22:51,150 well, state housing law 742 00:22:51,150 --> 00:22:53,190 changes rapidly, every sickle 743 00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:53,453 year, that is the same for 744 00:22:53,453 --> 00:22:54,854 adu 745 00:22:54,854 --> 00:22:56,523 laws, so every single year, 746 00:22:56,523 --> 00:22:57,923 there's a slate of new adu 747 00:22:57,923 --> 00:22:59,920 bills that are passed and go 748 00:22:59,920 --> 00:22:59,459 into effect and it can be 749 00:22:59,459 --> 00:23:01,194 hard 750 00:23:01,194 --> 00:23:02,829 to keep up with any o them. 751 00:23:02,829 --> 00:23:03,162 And so one of the roles of 752 00:23:03,162 --> 00:23:05,162 the 753 00:23:05,631 --> 00:23:07,333 center is to make sure that 754 00:23:07,333 --> 00:23:08,802 staff understand what the 755 00:23:08,802 --> 00:23:09,169 latest rules and statutes 756 00:23:09,169 --> 00:23:11,169 are, 757 00:23:11,171 --> 00:23:11,971 going to go through a lecture 758 00:23:11,971 --> 00:23:14,740 of the adu standards because 759 00:23:14,740 --> 00:23:15,342 that would be an a hour 760 00:23:15,342 --> 00:23:15,675 lecture, as you can see on 761 00:23:15,675 --> 00:23:17,675 the 762 00:23:17,777 --> 00:23:19,479 right hand side of the slide, 763 00:23:19,479 --> 00:23:21,114 I noted a few laws that went 764 00:23:21,114 --> 00:23:23,683 into effect this year, all of 765 00:23:23,683 --> 00:23:24,851 them in some way, shape or 766 00:23:24,851 --> 00:23:26,920 form encouraging adu's are 767 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:27,287 making it easier to build 768 00:23:27,287 --> 00:23:28,588 adu's. 769 00:23:28,588 --> 00:23:28,955 One law I want to call to 770 00:23:28,955 --> 00:23:30,657 your 771 00:23:30,657 --> 00:23:32,250 attention in particular is 772 00:23:32,250 --> 00:23:34,250 legalization of unpermitted 773 00:23:34,361 --> 00:23:37,431 units, so the state as of 774 00:23:37,431 --> 00:23:39,733 JANUARY of this year has made 775 00:23:39,733 --> 00:23:42,133 it easier the legalize 776 00:23:44,638 --> 00:23:47,600 unpermitted adu's, we no in 777 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:48,876 some place, the ratio is one 778 00:23:48,876 --> 00:23:49,810 to three depending on the 779 00:23:49,810 --> 00:23:51,445 jurisdiction, this has a 780 00:23:51,445 --> 00:23:52,346 potential to have pretty 781 00:23:52,346 --> 00:23:54,448 substantial long term effects 782 00:23:54,448 --> 00:23:55,382 down the road in terms of 783 00:23:55,382 --> 00:23:56,490 bringing unpermitted units on 784 00:23:56,490 --> 00:23:57,451 to the market. 785 00:23:57,451 --> 00:23:57,852 Something else that the 786 00:23:57,852 --> 00:23:59,852 center 787 00:24:04,258 --> 00:24:07,940 is working on is it's working 788 00:24:07,940 --> 00:24:08,229 on affordable adu program, 789 00:24:08,229 --> 00:24:08,596 these programs have been 790 00:24:08,596 --> 00:24:09,697 tried 791 00:24:09,697 --> 00:24:10,664 in different place ins 792 00:24:10,664 --> 00:24:11,332 california and adrsz 793 00:24:11,332 --> 00:24:11,799 f cross 794 00:24:11,799 --> 00:24:12,967 the knotty 795 00:24:12,967 --> 00:24:14,967 f ri. 796 00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:16,403 What they do is provide some 797 00:24:16,403 --> 00:24:18,505 financial incentive for home 798 00:24:18,505 --> 00:24:19,206 own teaser build an adu and 799 00:24:19,206 --> 00:24:19,640 those home owners are 800 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,640 required 801 00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:24,612 to rent their adu's at 802 00:24:24,612 --> 00:24:25,120 affordable rates so it's 803 00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:26,880 below 804 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,515 market rate housing program 805 00:24:28,515 --> 00:24:28,983 that subsidizes home owners 806 00:24:28,983 --> 00:24:29,717 directly. 807 00:24:29,717 --> 00:24:31,850 There's interesting pilots 808 00:24:31,850 --> 00:24:32,520 that have been tried in 809 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,121 different places that we're 810 00:24:34,121 --> 00:24:36,230 exploring and the goal is to 811 00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:37,558 have a program model that any 812 00:24:37,558 --> 00:24:37,892 jurisdiction in the county 813 00:24:37,892 --> 00:24:39,460 can 814 00:24:39,460 --> 00:24:40,862 participate in with the goal 815 00:24:40,862 --> 00:24:43,598 of launching next year, so 816 00:24:43,598 --> 00:24:44,799 very excited about that and 817 00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:46,634 innovating in that space. 818 00:24:46,634 --> 00:24:48,269 And in terms of the services 819 00:24:48,269 --> 00:24:48,636 to hope own oers, you can 820 00:24:48,636 --> 00:24:50,636 find 821 00:24:53,508 --> 00:24:54,375 a lot of information on the 822 00:24:54,375 --> 00:24:55,610 website, smadu.Org, this is 823 00:24:55,610 --> 00:24:59,147 just some of the resources we 824 00:24:59,147 --> 00:25:00,514 have op the website, a very 825 00:25:00,514 --> 00:25:01,449 comprehensive guide book 826 00:25:01,449 --> 00:25:02,383 around the different stages 827 00:25:02,383 --> 00:25:04,383 of 828 00:25:04,953 --> 00:25:06,554 building an adu specific to 829 00:25:06,554 --> 00:25:08,954 with local information, we 830 00:25:09,323 --> 00:25:10,910 have local rules for every 831 00:25:10,910 --> 00:25:12,910 jurisdiction including south 832 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:13,962 city, we have stories of 833 00:25:13,962 --> 00:25:14,329 residents who have built 834 00:25:14,329 --> 00:25:16,329 adu's 835 00:25:16,531 --> 00:25:16,898 in different use case, we 836 00:25:16,898 --> 00:25:18,133 have 837 00:25:18,133 --> 00:25:18,533 a proprietary tol that 838 00:25:18,533 --> 00:25:20,533 allows 839 00:25:21,135 --> 00:25:22,700 people to put in some details 840 00:25:22,700 --> 00:25:24,470 about a prospective project 841 00:25:25,540 --> 00:25:26,675 and get an estimate of the 842 00:25:26,675 --> 00:25:28,430 projected project cost and is 843 00:25:28,430 --> 00:25:28,543 the return on investment 844 00:25:28,543 --> 00:25:30,145 which 845 00:25:30,145 --> 00:25:30,512 they can expect which is 846 00:25:30,512 --> 00:25:32,130 based 847 00:25:32,130 --> 00:25:32,447 on hyperlocal construction 848 00:25:32,447 --> 00:25:34,447 data. 849 00:25:35,584 --> 00:25:36,351 and w also do and 850 00:25:36,351 --> 00:25:38,286 increasingly are rolling ot 851 00:25:38,286 --> 00:25:39,320 service that is are direct 852 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,489 technical assistance to home 853 00:25:40,489 --> 00:25:42,557 owners which we're excited 854 00:25:42,557 --> 00:25:43,240 about, so starting next 855 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,892 month, 856 00:25:44,892 --> 00:25:45,594 residents o member 857 00:25:45,594 --> 00:25:46,328 jurisdictions, including 858 00:25:46,328 --> 00:25:48,397 residents of city are going 859 00:25:48,397 --> 00:25:49,310 the have ak says to a free 860 00:25:49,310 --> 00:25:49,187 feasibility consult s 861 00:25:49,187 --> 00:25:51,187 frs 862 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,680 where they can talk with an 863 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,103 adu expert for an hour, get a 864 00:25:55,103 --> 00:25:56,238 sense of what is possible on 865 00:25:56,238 --> 00:25:58,638 their property talk through 866 00:25:59,141 --> 00:26:01,176 their goals and get a free 867 00:26:01,176 --> 00:26:01,710 customized report on 868 00:26:01,710 --> 00:26:03,710 recommendations. 869 00:26:03,979 --> 00:26:06,548 We have a homeowner help line 870 00:26:06,548 --> 00:26:07,716 which is like a hotline when 871 00:26:07,716 --> 00:26:10,716 they're in the process of 872 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,822 building an adu if they have 873 00:26:13,822 --> 00:26:16,392 an issue, we have a range of 874 00:26:16,392 --> 00:26:16,825 educational content and 875 00:26:16,825 --> 00:26:17,860 resources. 876 00:26:17,860 --> 00:26:19,662 We've launched a webinar 877 00:26:19,662 --> 00:26:21,630 series wth a few successful 878 00:26:21,630 --> 00:26:22,932 webinars that a couple of 879 00:26:22,932 --> 00:26:23,399 hundred people have attended 880 00:26:23,399 --> 00:26:24,800 already. 881 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,435 Next week we're hosting 882 00:26:26,435 --> 00:26:28,270 another webinar about adu 883 00:26:28,270 --> 00:26:29,905 financing, so really want to 884 00:26:29,905 --> 00:26:30,239 delve into different topics 885 00:26:30,239 --> 00:26:32,239 we 886 00:26:32,875 --> 00:26:33,276 know are of interest to home 887 00:26:33,276 --> 00:26:34,430 owners. 888 00:26:34,430 --> 00:26:37,546 And finally this is just a 889 00:26:37,546 --> 00:26:38,914 list of the center's member 890 00:26:38,914 --> 00:26:40,914 jurisdictions, we're thankful 891 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:41,516 for everyone who 892 00:26:41,516 --> 00:26:43,516 participates, 893 00:26:43,586 --> 00:26:44,821 san mateo is unique in the 894 00:26:44,821 --> 00:26:45,454 collaboration that is across 895 00:26:45,454 --> 00:26:47,454 jurisdiction asks the 896 00:26:47,557 --> 00:26:47,890 existence of the center is 897 00:26:47,890 --> 00:26:49,125 one 898 00:26:49,125 --> 00:26:49,659 example of that 899 00:26:49,659 --> 00:26:51,227 collaboration, 900 00:26:51,227 --> 00:26:53,529 so thankful to south city as 901 00:26:53,529 --> 00:26:54,297 well as all the other member 902 00:26:54,297 --> 00:26:56,199 jurisdictions for supporting 903 00:26:56,199 --> 00:26:59,200 the role of the center and 904 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,370 with that, I will open it up 905 00:27:00,370 --> 00:27:03,970 to questions if there are any. 906 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,406 >> thank you very much. 907 00:27:06,609 --> 00:27:09,900 Any questions or comments? 908 00:27:09,412 --> 00:27:11,140 >> I think it's perfect that 909 00:27:11,140 --> 00:27:12,315 you are presenting since we 910 00:27:12,315 --> 00:27:14,500 just gave a certificate to 911 00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:16,450 fair housing as well. 912 00:27:17,787 --> 00:27:18,721 And adu is a major part of 913 00:27:18,721 --> 00:27:20,721 affordable housing. 914 00:27:25,795 --> 00:27:26,563 It's been a while that I did 915 00:27:26,563 --> 00:27:27,230 an adu presentation, there's 916 00:27:27,230 --> 00:27:27,631 one of your slides that 917 00:27:27,631 --> 00:27:28,298 talked 918 00:27:28,298 --> 00:27:29,320 about the primary owner 919 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,401 couldn't reside in the adu. 920 00:27:31,401 --> 00:27:32,801 >> yes. 921 00:27:32,801 --> 00:27:33,202 >> so, yeah, I want to 922 00:27:33,202 --> 00:27:35,202 clarify 923 00:27:35,805 --> 00:27:39,509 to make sure I got it right. 924 00:27:39,509 --> 00:27:41,844 So, if a homeowner builds an 925 00:27:41,844 --> 00:27:45,444 adu, that junior adu or full 926 00:27:46,550 --> 00:27:48,284 adu cannot be their primary 927 00:27:48,284 --> 00:27:48,752 residencey for that 928 00:27:48,752 --> 00:27:49,186 particular 929 00:27:49,186 --> 00:27:49,920 homeowner? 930 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:50,553 >> no, it can be, if you're 931 00:27:50,553 --> 00:27:50,988 referencing no owner 932 00:27:50,988 --> 00:27:51,655 occupancy. 933 00:27:51,655 --> 00:27:52,289 Thafrjts's where I was 934 00:27:52,289 --> 00:27:54,689 confused on the rule. 935 00:27:54,725 --> 00:27:57,627 >> no, yeah, sorry, that's -- 936 00:27:57,627 --> 00:27:59,730 it's kind of phrased 937 00:27:59,730 --> 00:28:01,364 awkwardly, what that means is 938 00:28:01,364 --> 00:28:03,633 that a jurisdiction can't 939 00:28:03,633 --> 00:28:04,134 prevent owner occupancy, so 940 00:28:04,134 --> 00:28:05,436 -- 941 00:28:05,436 --> 00:28:06,437 or can't enforce owner 942 00:28:06,437 --> 00:28:08,339 occupancy, you don't have to 943 00:28:08,339 --> 00:28:11,542 be an owner occupant to build 944 00:28:11,542 --> 00:28:13,744 an adu, that's what it means. 945 00:28:13,744 --> 00:28:15,812 >> for a a lot o folks who 946 00:28:15,812 --> 00:28:16,180 are aging out in terms of 947 00:28:16,180 --> 00:28:18,115 home 948 00:28:18,115 --> 00:28:19,983 ownership or they want to 949 00:28:19,983 --> 00:28:22,860 reduce their size, a junior 950 00:28:22,860 --> 00:28:24,455 adu or an adu is a perfect 951 00:28:24,455 --> 00:28:25,723 play for folks to transition 952 00:28:25,723 --> 00:28:26,991 to and potentially rent out 953 00:28:26,991 --> 00:28:28,392 their home. 954 00:28:28,392 --> 00:28:28,564 >> absolutely, and there's a 955 00:28:28,564 --> 00:28:30,564 - 956 00:28:31,629 --> 00:28:32,596 new state law that's 957 00:28:32,596 --> 00:28:34,596 referenced here, canonization 958 00:28:36,766 --> 00:28:38,736 that is an optional law that 959 00:28:38,736 --> 00:28:40,871 allows jurisdiction tos enact 960 00:28:40,871 --> 00:28:41,339 an ordinance to sell the adu 961 00:28:41,339 --> 00:28:43,339 separately. 962 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,640 >> that's a new law now? 963 00:28:48,112 --> 00:28:50,181 >> yes, san jose enacted, 964 00:28:50,181 --> 00:28:51,115 it's the first jurisdiction 965 00:28:51,115 --> 00:28:52,483 statewide that enacted it and 966 00:28:52,483 --> 00:28:53,160 san francisco is apparently 967 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:53,484 in 968 00:28:53,484 --> 00:28:54,152 discussions. 969 00:28:54,152 --> 00:28:56,152 It's an interesting 970 00:28:56,521 --> 00:28:56,721 opportunity to caoe kate 971 00:28:56,721 --> 00:28:58,721 f 972 00:28:58,756 --> 00:29:00,224 yait a stock of starter homes 973 00:29:00,224 --> 00:29:02,224 from adu's. 974 00:29:02,293 --> 00:29:02,660 >> so, they have to enact 975 00:29:02,660 --> 00:29:03,694 that 976 00:29:03,694 --> 00:29:06,694 law for that to happen? 977 00:29:06,731 --> 00:29:08,800 >> t yes, it's an opt-in law. 978 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:09,601 I'm looking at sky now. 979 00:29:09,601 --> 00:29:12,601 You're going to jump in 980 00:29:13,637 --> 00:29:15,637 >>? 981 00:29:15,940 --> 00:29:18,340 Nell selander, your questions 982 00:29:18,643 --> 00:29:19,878 are preserving one rving -- 983 00:29:19,878 --> 00:29:21,746 preempting one of the 984 00:29:21,746 --> 00:29:23,348 council's extra strategic 985 00:29:23,348 --> 00:29:25,717 goals is more diversity in 986 00:29:25,717 --> 00:29:26,484 housing stock and more 987 00:29:26,484 --> 00:29:28,530 particularly home ownership, 988 00:29:28,530 --> 00:29:29,454 this is one of the task items 989 00:29:29,454 --> 00:29:30,855 you might see in a future 990 00:29:30,855 --> 00:29:33,255 report on those strategic 991 00:29:33,558 --> 00:29:35,360 goals is do we want to 992 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,828 consider this locally as a 993 00:29:36,828 --> 00:29:37,462 pretty easy pathway into home 994 00:29:37,462 --> 00:29:39,462 ownership. 995 00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:42,333 >> great, thank you, nell. 996 00:29:42,333 --> 00:29:44,202 >> it's exciting and san jose 997 00:29:44,202 --> 00:29:46,370 just enacted this in the last 998 00:29:46,370 --> 00:29:48,573 one and a half year sos it's 999 00:29:48,573 --> 00:29:49,741 excite tog se -- a lot of 1000 00:29:49,741 --> 00:29:52,141 jurisdictions twaont see what 1001 00:29:52,744 --> 00:29:53,812 happen ins san jose, but in 1002 00:29:53,812 --> 00:29:56,212 seattle, in portland where 1003 00:29:57,115 --> 00:29:59,184 this exists, I mean, it's a 1004 00:29:59,184 --> 00:29:59,884 massive part of new home 1005 00:29:59,884 --> 00:30:01,519 starters. 1006 00:30:01,519 --> 00:30:01,987 >> great, thank you for the 1007 00:30:01,987 --> 00:30:03,987 information. 1008 00:30:04,723 --> 00:30:05,157 Great, any other questions, 1009 00:30:05,157 --> 00:30:06,558 comments? 1010 00:30:06,558 --> 00:30:07,259 Community, this is a great 1011 00:30:07,259 --> 00:30:08,160 resource, please take 1012 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,280 advantage. 1013 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,196 We are a member city, so 1014 00:30:11,196 --> 00:30:12,598 please utilize the resources. 1015 00:30:12,598 --> 00:30:13,265 Thank you again fr the 1016 00:30:13,265 --> 00:30:13,665 presentation for coming 1017 00:30:13,665 --> 00:30:15,167 tonight. 1018 00:30:15,167 --> 00:30:17,200 >> thank you very much. 1019 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:17,302 >> next agenda item, please. 1020 00:30:17,302 --> 00:30:19,302 Er 1021 00:30:20,239 --> 00:30:20,805 >> moving on to council 1022 00:30:20,805 --> 00:30:22,174 comments/requests. 1023 00:30:22,174 --> 00:30:22,607 >> great. 1024 00:30:22,607 --> 00:30:23,242 Would who 1025 00:30:23,242 --> 00:30:23,403 would like to 1026 00:30:23,403 --> 00:30:25,344 - 1027 00:30:25,344 --> 00:30:27,344 start 1028 00:30:28,347 --> 00:30:30,347 sharing? 1029 00:30:30,649 --> 00:30:31,160 >> you're look at me so I 1030 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:31,449 will 1031 00:30:31,449 --> 00:30:32,840 go first. 1032 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,484 Thank you, MR. Mayor. 1033 00:30:38,791 --> 00:30:40,660 A lot of great events that I 1034 00:30:40,660 --> 00:30:42,495 attended, the holly event, it 1035 00:30:42,495 --> 00:30:43,662 was such a great event to 1036 00:30:43,662 --> 00:30:45,662 celebrate our diversity. 1037 00:30:46,232 --> 00:30:47,433 It was a avery colorful 1038 00:30:47,433 --> 00:30:49,833 event, there's great pictures 1039 00:30:49,902 --> 00:30:51,470 of myself and councilmember 1040 00:30:51,470 --> 00:30:52,939 nicolas with bright paint on 1041 00:30:52,939 --> 00:30:53,405 our face, so I look forward 1042 00:30:53,405 --> 00:30:55,405 to 1043 00:30:55,741 --> 00:30:57,430 as that event grows every 1044 00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:57,610 year, so I'm looking forward 1045 00:30:57,610 --> 00:30:59,110 to it. 1046 00:30:59,110 --> 00:31:00,846 And I think councilmember 1047 00:31:00,846 --> 00:31:03,215 nicolas and I are hoping by 1048 00:31:03,215 --> 00:31:03,649 next year we're throwing 1049 00:31:03,649 --> 00:31:04,984 paint 1050 00:31:04,984 --> 00:31:08,584 -- yeah, so staff might be 1051 00:31:09,222 --> 00:31:10,423 freaking out as I say that. 1052 00:31:10,423 --> 00:31:14,230 I went to a wonderful event 1053 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,460 with the mayor and 1054 00:31:18,531 --> 00:31:20,531 councilmember coleman, we 1055 00:31:21,868 --> 00:31:22,902 attended the naac99th gala 1056 00:31:22,902 --> 00:31:24,971 celebration where there were 1057 00:31:24,971 --> 00:31:25,338 leaders across the region 1058 00:31:25,338 --> 00:31:27,338 that 1059 00:31:27,373 --> 00:31:27,841 celebrate the san mateo 1060 00:31:27,841 --> 00:31:29,841 county 1061 00:31:29,943 --> 00:31:32,712 chapter and our very own 1062 00:31:32,712 --> 00:31:33,879 superintendent of schools, 1063 00:31:33,879 --> 00:31:34,347 shantera moore was 1064 00:31:34,347 --> 00:31:35,782 recognized, 1065 00:31:35,782 --> 00:31:36,949 it was great to see her and 1066 00:31:36,949 --> 00:31:37,217 all of the accomplishments 1067 00:31:37,217 --> 00:31:38,284 she 1068 00:31:38,284 --> 00:31:40,820 was able to put together. 1069 00:31:40,820 --> 00:31:41,154 I had a great meeting with 1070 00:31:41,154 --> 00:31:41,888 the 1071 00:31:41,888 --> 00:31:43,390 westborough water district. 1072 00:31:43,390 --> 00:31:45,959 I know staff was there, I'm 1073 00:31:45,959 --> 00:31:46,693 going plug them for our 1074 00:31:46,693 --> 00:31:48,280 westborough residents, make 1075 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:48,562 sure you pay your water bill 1076 00:31:48,562 --> 00:31:50,130 on time. 1077 00:31:50,130 --> 00:31:51,631 They have a lot of great 1078 00:31:51,631 --> 00:31:52,565 resources and I look forward 1079 00:31:52,565 --> 00:31:55,502 to continuing the part naer 1080 00:31:55,502 --> 00:31:56,570 ship with the water district 1081 00:31:56,570 --> 00:31:58,400 and if heresies any 1082 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,873 information they want to 1083 00:31:59,873 --> 00:32:01,274 provide in terms of our 1084 00:32:01,274 --> 00:32:02,909 constituents, I know that the 1085 00:32:02,909 --> 00:32:05,110 mayor would be willing to 1086 00:32:05,110 --> 00:32:05,479 provide that information on 1087 00:32:05,479 --> 00:32:07,113 to 1088 00:32:07,113 --> 00:32:09,113 his newsletter. 1089 00:32:09,883 --> 00:32:11,985 And then last week I had a 1090 00:32:11,985 --> 00:32:14,385 town hall with about 50 1091 00:32:14,521 --> 00:32:16,423 residents and we had a lot of 1092 00:32:16,423 --> 00:32:18,758 great questions from the 1093 00:32:18,758 --> 00:32:20,758 audience specifically about 1094 00:32:20,994 --> 00:32:23,394 traffic, about public safety 1095 00:32:23,530 --> 00:32:25,165 and we had the police chief, 1096 00:32:25,165 --> 00:32:26,800 the fire chief, public works 1097 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:27,767 and we had a great 1098 00:32:27,767 --> 00:32:29,603 presentation about what's 1099 00:32:29,603 --> 00:32:32,205 coming in terms of our new 1100 00:32:32,205 --> 00:32:33,840 child care center up in 1101 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:34,975 westborough and a lot of 1102 00:32:34,975 --> 00:32:36,143 great 1103 00:32:36,143 --> 00:32:38,120 feedback from residents, I 1104 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,846 know we're following up for w 1105 00:32:39,846 --> 00:32:40,181 a lot of residents in term 1106 00:32:40,181 --> 00:32:40,948 ofs 1107 00:32:40,948 --> 00:32:43,250 their questions, I've been 1108 00:32:43,250 --> 00:32:44,485 doing it for the lst 7 years 1109 00:32:44,485 --> 00:32:46,820 now, to see all those 1110 00:32:46,820 --> 00:32:47,521 residents come out and ask 1111 00:32:47,521 --> 00:32:48,288 questions and engaging 1112 00:32:48,288 --> 00:32:49,623 witching staff because I know 1113 00:32:49,623 --> 00:32:49,957 this is how w can continue 1114 00:32:49,957 --> 00:32:51,910 to 1115 00:32:51,910 --> 00:32:54,910 engage with our residents and 1116 00:32:54,562 --> 00:32:58,366 a lot of things we're able to 1117 00:32:58,366 --> 00:33:00,201 accomplish in terms of stop 1118 00:33:00,201 --> 00:33:01,569 signs and curbs came from 1119 00:33:01,569 --> 00:33:02,570 these town halls, people were 1120 00:33:02,570 --> 00:33:02,937 interested how do I get a 1121 00:33:02,937 --> 00:33:03,938 stop 1122 00:33:03,938 --> 00:33:06,700 sign in my neighborhood and 1123 00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:07,441 there's a process for that. 1124 00:33:07,441 --> 00:33:08,376 With that, MR. Mayor, that's 1125 00:33:08,376 --> 00:33:10,100 all I have, thank you. 1126 00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:12,100 >> thank you, councilmember. 1127 00:33:13,914 --> 00:33:15,316 Anyone else? 1128 00:33:15,316 --> 00:33:17,752 Go ahead, MR. Vice mayor. 1129 00:33:17,752 --> 00:33:19,353 >> thank you, mayor flores, 1130 00:33:19,353 --> 00:33:22,353 the nice thing about being 1131 00:33:24,259 --> 00:33:26,160 vice mayor to a mayor who is 1132 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,795 actively involved and a 1133 00:33:27,795 --> 00:33:28,496 demanding career is he can't 1134 00:33:28,496 --> 00:33:28,930 attend everything so 1135 00:33:28,930 --> 00:33:30,365 sometimes 1136 00:33:30,365 --> 00:33:32,233 he sends the vice mayor, so 1137 00:33:32,233 --> 00:33:36,433 about a week ago on the 19th, 1138 00:33:37,710 --> 00:33:39,307 I was out at biomed, the 1139 00:33:39,307 --> 00:33:41,176 campus's gateway on oyster 1140 00:33:41,176 --> 00:33:44,176 point boulevard for a ribbon 1141 00:33:44,312 --> 00:33:44,713 cutting for a new food 1142 00:33:44,713 --> 00:33:45,947 vendor, 1143 00:33:45,947 --> 00:33:48,490 proper food, and proper food 1144 00:33:48,490 --> 00:33:52,186 is moving fast f you go the 1145 00:33:52,186 --> 00:33:53,121 san francisco, they're on 1146 00:33:53,121 --> 00:33:53,521 every mayor employment 1147 00:33:53,521 --> 00:33:54,689 center, 1148 00:33:54,689 --> 00:33:55,123 so they have quite a 1149 00:33:55,123 --> 00:33:57,123 following 1150 00:33:58,126 --> 00:34:00,610 already, so we did a ribbon 1151 00:34:00,610 --> 00:34:02,631 cutting and then a tour of 1152 00:34:02,631 --> 00:34:04,466 biomed who still remains vry 1153 00:34:04,466 --> 00:34:05,400 bullish on what has happened 1154 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:05,734 and will continue to hppen 1155 00:34:05,734 --> 00:34:06,801 in 1156 00:34:06,801 --> 00:34:08,801 south san francisco. 1157 00:34:09,671 --> 00:34:12,373 The next day I found myself 1158 00:34:12,373 --> 00:34:13,750 and again the mayor was at 1159 00:34:13,750 --> 00:34:14,476 the 1160 00:34:14,476 --> 00:34:15,877 skyline college PRESIDENT's 1161 00:34:15,877 --> 00:34:17,746 breakfast and that's 7:30 the 1162 00:34:17,746 --> 00:34:20,490 morning, as many of you know, 1163 00:34:20,490 --> 00:34:22,651 I'm a little older than the 1164 00:34:22,651 --> 00:34:25,651 average colleague up here and 1165 00:34:27,289 --> 00:34:27,756 I don't do 7:30 willingly 1166 00:34:27,756 --> 00:34:28,757 very 1167 00:34:28,757 --> 00:34:31,326 often, he convinced he I 1168 00:34:31,326 --> 00:34:34,563 needed to be tere, it was my 1169 00:34:34,563 --> 00:34:36,198 first time building 12 at 1170 00:34:36,198 --> 00:34:38,767 skyline college, it looks out 1171 00:34:38,767 --> 00:34:40,602 into the pacific ocean and 1172 00:34:40,602 --> 00:34:41,770 it's inspirational, it's an 1173 00:34:41,770 --> 00:34:44,770 amazing venue for an event, 1174 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,440 they had well over 240 people 1175 00:34:48,911 --> 00:34:52,515 there and they had a dj, mc, 1176 00:34:52,515 --> 00:34:54,750 and the music was gj quality, 1177 00:34:54,750 --> 00:34:56,180 the early hour and the dj 1178 00:34:56,180 --> 00:34:57,586 music, I found a table way in 1179 00:34:57,586 --> 00:34:59,955 the corner and it worked okay 1180 00:34:59,955 --> 00:35:01,955 for me. 1181 00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:02,391 The previous saturday on 1182 00:35:02,391 --> 00:35:03,692 MARCH 1183 00:35:03,692 --> 00:35:07,292 15, I spent a lot hof time 1184 00:35:09,131 --> 00:35:10,766 with the mayor lately, he put 1185 00:35:10,766 --> 00:35:13,766 together cafecito, this was a 1186 00:35:16,572 --> 00:35:20,172 second one, this was on the 1187 00:35:22,478 --> 00:35:23,646 star bucks on mclellan drive, 1188 00:35:23,646 --> 00:35:25,281 I met new people in the 1189 00:35:25,281 --> 00:35:27,116 district and to see them get 1190 00:35:27,116 --> 00:35:28,551 involved and care about their 1191 00:35:28,551 --> 00:35:30,853 community and one of them is 1192 00:35:30,853 --> 00:35:32,221 in the audience tonight, 1193 00:35:32,221 --> 00:35:33,155 hello, anne trres, thank you 1194 00:35:33,155 --> 00:35:34,323 for joining us. 1195 00:35:34,323 --> 00:35:35,792 That's always great to see. 1196 00:35:35,792 --> 00:35:37,860 She's been a a resident of 1197 00:35:37,860 --> 00:35:39,529 south san francisco since the 1198 00:35:39,529 --> 00:35:40,530 70's and to see hr 1199 00:35:40,530 --> 00:35:42,930 willingness to get involved 1200 00:35:43,133 --> 00:35:44,901 and play a role is truly 1201 00:35:44,901 --> 00:35:45,768 remarkable, so it was all 1202 00:35:45,768 --> 00:35:46,636 worthwhile. 1203 00:35:46,636 --> 00:35:48,636 >> great. 1204 00:35:49,773 --> 00:35:50,206 >> and then we found 1205 00:35:50,206 --> 00:35:52,206 ourselves 1206 00:35:53,543 --> 00:35:56,246 out of south san francisco at 1207 00:35:56,246 --> 00:35:56,913 the japan town center for a 1208 00:35:56,913 --> 00:35:57,313 special exhibit for our 1209 00:35:57,313 --> 00:35:58,814 sister 1210 00:35:58,814 --> 00:35:59,282 city in japan is kish shi 1211 00:35:59,282 --> 00:36:00,450 watt 1212 00:36:00,450 --> 00:36:01,851 ta, the cultural district up 1213 00:36:01,851 --> 00:36:03,353 there was doing a rbbon 1214 00:36:03,353 --> 00:36:03,553 cutting for a special x 1215 00:36:03,553 --> 00:36:04,988 I 1216 00:36:04,988 --> 00:36:06,456 exhibit for the three sister 1217 00:36:06,456 --> 00:36:06,620 city that is are here in san 1218 00:36:06,620 --> 00:36:07,257 - 1219 00:36:07,257 --> 00:36:08,892 mateo county. 1220 00:36:08,892 --> 00:36:11,194 We were joined by the former 1221 00:36:11,194 --> 00:36:11,561 MAY yr of daly city, they 1222 00:36:11,561 --> 00:36:13,290 just 1223 00:36:13,290 --> 00:36:16,290 initiated just last year or 1224 00:36:16,266 --> 00:36:17,434 this year a new sister city 1225 00:36:17,434 --> 00:36:17,834 that we'll be visiting 1226 00:36:17,834 --> 00:36:19,503 shortly. 1227 00:36:19,503 --> 00:36:19,870 This is a a great segway, 1228 00:36:19,870 --> 00:36:20,904 I've 1229 00:36:20,904 --> 00:36:22,105 mentioned we are looking for 1230 00:36:22,105 --> 00:36:24,174 people that might want to 1231 00:36:24,174 --> 00:36:25,342 travel to japan with the 1232 00:36:25,342 --> 00:36:26,943 sister city's committee, we 1233 00:36:26,943 --> 00:36:27,878 are not quite maxed out of 1234 00:36:27,878 --> 00:36:28,912 the 1235 00:36:28,912 --> 00:36:29,279 trip, there still might be a 1236 00:36:29,279 --> 00:36:31,279 a 1237 00:36:31,615 --> 00:36:32,515 couple of openings but I 1238 00:36:32,515 --> 00:36:33,684 understand that COUNCILWOMAN 1239 00:36:33,684 --> 00:36:35,319 Nicolas and her husband might 1240 00:36:35,319 --> 00:36:36,987 be joining us so there's even 1241 00:36:36,987 --> 00:36:38,987 less space. 1242 00:36:40,257 --> 00:36:41,658 Anyway, on SEPTEMBER 12th, we 1243 00:36:41,658 --> 00:36:43,600 fly to japan and we don't 1244 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:44,610 return until the 27th but 1245 00:36:44,610 --> 00:36:47,970 we're going there to be part 1246 00:36:47,970 --> 00:36:48,666 of the sister city 1247 00:36:48,666 --> 00:36:50,666 international committee which 1248 00:36:51,435 --> 00:36:53,504 is being hosted in diernl not 1249 00:36:53,504 --> 00:36:55,840 going to get the name right, 1250 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,207 in the small city daly city 1251 00:36:57,207 --> 00:36:58,843 is 1252 00:36:58,843 --> 00:37:01,843 twined with, we'll spend some 1253 00:37:02,780 --> 00:37:03,547 time in osaka, there's an 1254 00:37:03,547 --> 00:37:05,549 international expo that goes 1255 00:37:05,549 --> 00:37:07,217 for a number of months, we'll 1256 00:37:07,217 --> 00:37:09,753 be in osaka for a little bit 1257 00:37:09,753 --> 00:37:11,188 and find our way to tokyo 1258 00:37:11,188 --> 00:37:11,654 where we'll all be 1259 00:37:11,654 --> 00:37:12,923 overwhelmed 1260 00:37:12,923 --> 00:37:14,191 by the energy there and fly 1261 00:37:14,191 --> 00:37:15,326 home, so there are still 1262 00:37:15,326 --> 00:37:15,826 opportunities if you're 1263 00:37:15,826 --> 00:37:17,826 interested. 1264 00:37:19,463 --> 00:37:21,132 We can send you the itinerary 1265 00:37:21,132 --> 00:37:23,132 and the particulars. 1266 00:37:24,202 --> 00:37:27,371 And then I guess -- oh, and 1267 00:37:27,371 --> 00:37:29,440 I'm looking forward -- very 1268 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:29,841 much looking forward to 1269 00:37:29,841 --> 00:37:31,841 monday 1270 00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:33,678 MARCH 31, I have rceive add 1271 00:37:33,678 --> 00:37:34,779 guarantee from city hall from 1272 00:37:34,779 --> 00:37:35,246 the city manager's office 1273 00:37:35,246 --> 00:37:37,246 that 1274 00:37:39,183 --> 00:37:39,951 on that day, we will begin 1275 00:37:39,951 --> 00:37:42,351 removing the derelict vehicle 1276 00:37:43,755 --> 00:37:47,355 that is are in the oyster 1277 00:37:49,727 --> 00:37:50,628 cove, vao that -- vehicles 1278 00:37:50,628 --> 00:37:52,630 that have completely sunk. 1279 00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:52,497 Do you know what time we're 1280 00:37:52,497 --> 00:37:53,498 starting? 1281 00:37:53,498 --> 00:37:53,898 >> I don't know, we will find 1282 00:37:53,898 --> 00:37:55,500 out. 1283 00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:56,935 >> we're going to start with 1284 00:37:56,935 --> 00:37:58,536 ten of the worst vehicles, 1285 00:37:58,536 --> 00:37:59,938 pulling them out of the water 1286 00:37:59,938 --> 00:38:01,172 and destroying them on-site 1287 00:38:01,172 --> 00:38:01,673 and I'm going to cheer every 1288 00:38:01,673 --> 00:38:02,400 one of those. 1289 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:02,841 Er 1290 00:38:02,841 --> 00:38:03,908 >> just one bit of 1291 00:38:03,908 --> 00:38:04,975 information that I haven't 1292 00:38:04,975 --> 00:38:06,677 shared with council yet, I 1293 00:38:06,677 --> 00:38:08,412 believe three of the vehicles 1294 00:38:08,412 --> 00:38:11,516 that we -- or the boats that 1295 00:38:11,516 --> 00:38:12,250 we were going to hve 1296 00:38:12,250 --> 00:38:14,850 removed, 1297 00:38:14,850 --> 00:38:16,355 once they were posted, they 1298 00:38:16,355 --> 00:38:16,855 left of their own accord, 1299 00:38:16,855 --> 00:38:18,456 each 1300 00:38:18,456 --> 00:38:21,456 removal is very costly, so 1301 00:38:21,593 --> 00:38:25,193 that was good news to us. 1302 00:38:26,331 --> 00:38:26,865 >> monday MARCH 31 out near 1303 00:38:26,865 --> 00:38:27,165 the ac mare yo 1304 00:38:27,165 --> 00:38:28,767 t hotel, we're 1305 00:38:28,767 --> 00:38:30,168 going to get started on that 1306 00:38:30,168 --> 00:38:31,336 day and there will be more to 1307 00:38:31,336 --> 00:38:34,336 come, thank you, MR. Mayor. 1308 00:38:40,579 --> 00:38:42,979 >> tank you, well said. 1309 00:38:47,386 --> 00:38:50,555 >> so, I was also able to 1310 00:38:50,555 --> 00:38:52,858 attend the naacp gala and I 1311 00:38:52,858 --> 00:38:54,693 want to also congratulate the 1312 00:38:54,693 --> 00:38:56,962 honorees, also last week I 1313 00:38:56,962 --> 00:38:58,564 attended the orange park 1314 00:38:58,564 --> 00:39:00,964 memorial pool beam topping 1315 00:39:01,233 --> 00:39:02,401 where we signed the last I 1316 00:39:02,401 --> 00:39:04,690 guess team that will b used 1317 00:39:04,690 --> 00:39:05,771 for the structure of the pool 1318 00:39:05,771 --> 00:39:07,473 and they are building that 1319 00:39:07,473 --> 00:39:11,730 pool quickly and I can't be 1320 00:39:19,919 --> 00:39:21,530 more excited and I guess 1321 00:39:21,530 --> 00:39:21,387 weather permissible, I hope 1322 00:39:21,387 --> 00:39:22,488 it 1323 00:39:22,488 --> 00:39:24,790 will be done soon. 1324 00:39:24,790 --> 00:39:26,580 I want to thank everyone for 1325 00:39:26,580 --> 00:39:27,893 making that possible. 1326 00:39:27,893 --> 00:39:28,293 That is all I have for 1327 00:39:28,293 --> 00:39:28,828 tonight. 1328 00:39:28,828 --> 00:39:30,828 >> COUNCILWOMAN? 1329 00:39:34,333 --> 00:39:36,402 >> and for that kish wad da 1330 00:39:36,402 --> 00:39:37,837 trip, we are paying our own 1331 00:39:37,837 --> 00:39:40,837 way websinger are making sure. 1332 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:41,774 So, as a testament for us 1333 00:39:41,774 --> 00:39:44,174 being an inclusive community, 1334 00:39:44,543 --> 00:39:46,145 I did enjoy the holy 1335 00:39:46,145 --> 00:39:48,545 celebration and shout-out to 1336 00:39:55,955 --> 00:39:57,790 ver con ka ortiz, devon 1337 00:39:57,790 --> 00:40:00,190 stenhouse for the celebration. 1338 00:40:00,693 --> 00:40:01,600 We don't know that we're 1339 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,600 going 1340 00:40:03,229 --> 00:40:05,432 to be having a bigger 1341 00:40:05,432 --> 00:40:07,832 celebration next year, and 1342 00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:13,673 then also I attended on MARCH 1343 00:40:13,673 --> 00:40:14,140 20 the third sister 1344 00:40:14,140 --> 00:40:15,575 leadership 1345 00:40:15,575 --> 00:40:17,377 conference, all of those who 1346 00:40:17,377 --> 00:40:18,311 don't know about the sister 1347 00:40:18,311 --> 00:40:19,479 and sister leadership 1348 00:40:19,479 --> 00:40:21,479 conference, it's something 1349 00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:23,617 that's been going on in santa 1350 00:40:23,617 --> 00:40:25,685 clara county for the last 30 1351 00:40:25,685 --> 00:40:26,853 years, I brought it to san 1352 00:40:26,853 --> 00:40:28,922 mateo county three years ago, 1353 00:40:28,922 --> 00:40:30,990 the first two years were held 1354 00:40:30,990 --> 00:40:33,990 here in the south san 1355 00:40:34,261 --> 00:40:34,961 francisco and that's for 1356 00:40:34,961 --> 00:40:36,830 asian 1357 00:40:36,830 --> 00:40:38,432 american native hawaiian, 1358 00:40:38,432 --> 00:40:38,765 pacific islander girls who 1359 00:40:38,765 --> 00:40:40,660 are 1360 00:40:40,660 --> 00:40:43,660 from sixth grade to high 1361 00:40:44,504 --> 00:40:45,405 school and there's a lot of 1362 00:40:45,405 --> 00:40:47,405 women empowerment sessions 1363 00:40:47,741 --> 00:40:48,108 that we go through making 1364 00:40:48,108 --> 00:40:49,877 sure 1365 00:40:49,877 --> 00:40:51,945 that they're comfortable and 1366 00:40:51,945 --> 00:40:52,446 this year's theme is 1367 00:40:52,446 --> 00:40:54,114 embracing 1368 00:40:54,114 --> 00:40:55,682 the journey, so they heard 1369 00:40:55,682 --> 00:40:57,784 about people who are 1370 00:40:57,784 --> 00:40:58,952 successful now and how they 1371 00:40:58,952 --> 00:41:01,352 had gone through difficulties 1372 00:41:01,922 --> 00:41:03,323 in life and we are -- we keep 1373 00:41:03,323 --> 00:41:05,159 on telling them they're more 1374 00:41:05,159 --> 00:41:05,492 than enough, so we had the 1375 00:41:05,492 --> 00:41:06,560 big 1376 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:07,227 group from -- and I'm so 1377 00:41:07,227 --> 00:41:09,227 happy 1378 00:41:09,330 --> 00:41:12,930 to have a big group from 1379 00:41:13,333 --> 00:41:15,168 westborough middle school in 1380 00:41:15,168 --> 00:41:16,170 alta loma, el camino and 1381 00:41:16,170 --> 00:41:17,571 south 1382 00:41:17,571 --> 00:41:19,673 city high school, so it was a 1383 00:41:19,673 --> 00:41:20,708 a wonderful event for all the 1384 00:41:20,708 --> 00:41:21,750 young ladies, and I also 1385 00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:22,276 would 1386 00:41:22,276 --> 00:41:24,645 like to request that we 1387 00:41:24,645 --> 00:41:27,248 adjourn the meeting in memory 1388 00:41:27,248 --> 00:41:29,317 of one of the persons I met 1389 00:41:29,317 --> 00:41:31,786 when we were just beginning 1390 00:41:31,786 --> 00:41:35,386 our life here in south san 1391 00:41:35,723 --> 00:41:38,493 francisco, he was the founder 1392 00:41:38,493 --> 00:41:39,860 of [Inaudible] Dance company, 1393 00:41:39,860 --> 00:41:40,561 a filipino dance cmpany 1394 00:41:40,561 --> 00:41:42,561 where 1395 00:41:43,630 --> 00:41:44,465 my children started dancing, 1396 00:41:44,465 --> 00:41:46,333 filipino folk dancing and 1397 00:41:46,333 --> 00:41:46,768 having the love for art and 1398 00:41:46,768 --> 00:41:48,768 is 1399 00:41:52,807 --> 00:41:56,407 music, his name is bonafo sta 1400 00:41:56,878 --> 00:41:57,278 balera junior and MS. 1401 00:41:57,278 --> 00:41:58,579 Maurice 1402 00:41:58,579 --> 00:41:59,647 copia and MAY their memories 1403 00:41:59,647 --> 00:42:00,815 serve as a blessing. 1404 00:42:00,815 --> 00:42:01,182 >> I appreciate that, the 1405 00:42:01,182 --> 00:42:02,917 good 1406 00:42:02,917 --> 00:42:03,251 thing about being mayor is 1407 00:42:03,251 --> 00:42:05,153 all 1408 00:42:05,153 --> 00:42:06,788 of you share the places we've 1409 00:42:06,788 --> 00:42:09,570 already been so I say check, 1410 00:42:09,570 --> 00:42:09,390 check, check, thank you to 1411 00:42:09,390 --> 00:42:09,724 the 1412 00:42:09,724 --> 00:42:10,458 va 1413 00:42:10,458 --> 00:42:12,327 is mayor for subbing in. 1414 00:42:12,327 --> 00:42:14,162 A lot of folks don't realize 1415 00:42:14,162 --> 00:42:16,631 that being mayor and being 1416 00:42:16,631 --> 00:42:19,310 councilmember, it naoets a 1417 00:42:19,330 --> 00:42:19,801 full 1418 00:42:19,801 --> 00:42:20,535 time job, many of us have a 1419 00:42:20,535 --> 00:42:20,869 full time job like many of 1420 00:42:20,869 --> 00:42:21,569 you 1421 00:42:21,569 --> 00:42:22,270 working 8-5 five day as week 1422 00:42:22,270 --> 00:42:22,637 so I appreciate that very 1423 00:42:22,637 --> 00:42:23,905 much 1424 00:42:23,905 --> 00:42:24,839 to be able to cover, I'm 1425 00:42:24,839 --> 00:42:26,708 grateful to the resident and 1426 00:42:26,708 --> 00:42:28,577 is the community members that 1427 00:42:28,577 --> 00:42:30,712 stopped by for our cafecito 1428 00:42:30,712 --> 00:42:33,181 with the myor x the vice 1429 00:42:33,181 --> 00:42:34,616 mayor, it's not just district 1430 00:42:34,616 --> 00:42:36,951 1 residents, there were just 1431 00:42:36,951 --> 00:42:37,318 like the last cafecito we 1432 00:42:37,318 --> 00:42:38,620 had, 1433 00:42:38,620 --> 00:42:40,188 residents from all over south 1434 00:42:40,188 --> 00:42:42,524 san francisco and this is 1435 00:42:42,524 --> 00:42:43,225 really what it is, it's 1436 00:42:43,225 --> 00:42:44,459 bringing different 1437 00:42:44,459 --> 00:42:45,160 neighborhoods together, it's 1438 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,294 a 1439 00:42:46,294 --> 00:42:46,628 a little national night out 1440 00:42:46,628 --> 00:42:47,896 on 1441 00:42:47,896 --> 00:42:48,296 a saturday morning with 1442 00:42:48,296 --> 00:42:50,296 coffee 1443 00:42:50,465 --> 00:42:52,300 so it's great to see some 1444 00:42:52,300 --> 00:42:53,935 parents stop by on their way 1445 00:42:53,935 --> 00:42:55,103 to baseball practice or other 1446 00:42:55,103 --> 00:42:56,380 endeavors on a saturday 1447 00:42:56,380 --> 00:42:56,471 morning, but building 1448 00:42:56,471 --> 00:42:58,140 xhaoent, 1449 00:42:58,140 --> 00:42:59,308 it's really what it's about. 1450 00:42:59,308 --> 00:42:59,775 There's still many 1451 00:42:59,775 --> 00:43:00,709 individuals 1452 00:43:00,709 --> 00:43:02,544 that say, you live right 1453 00:43:02,544 --> 00:43:04,313 there, I liver right there, 1454 00:43:04,313 --> 00:43:05,814 you work right there, I'm a 1455 00:43:05,814 --> 00:43:06,181 history buff as the vice 1456 00:43:06,181 --> 00:43:08,181 mayor 1457 00:43:09,718 --> 00:43:11,853 knows and hearing about the 1458 00:43:11,853 --> 00:43:13,220 old macy's warehouses before 1459 00:43:13,220 --> 00:43:13,389 the costco years here in 1460 00:43:13,389 --> 00:43:14,423 south 1461 00:43:14,423 --> 00:43:15,591 city is a great time so I 1462 00:43:15,591 --> 00:43:16,525 appreciate that and we do it 1463 00:43:16,525 --> 00:43:18,127 in different ways. 1464 00:43:18,127 --> 00:43:19,328 We engage with our community 1465 00:43:19,328 --> 00:43:21,328 in different ways. 1466 00:43:22,565 --> 00:43:23,632 I was also happy to join 1467 00:43:23,632 --> 00:43:24,333 councilmember nagales at his 1468 00:43:24,333 --> 00:43:25,367 community meeting as well 1469 00:43:25,367 --> 00:43:26,135 websinger ear out there and 1470 00:43:26,135 --> 00:43:27,236 connecting and sharing the 1471 00:43:27,236 --> 00:43:29,636 information so I appreciate 1472 00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:30,973 all of you, everyone is 1473 00:43:30,973 --> 00:43:31,307 welcome, stay tuned because 1474 00:43:31,307 --> 00:43:32,608 we 1475 00:43:32,608 --> 00:43:34,710 have many more coming during 1476 00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:36,111 the course of this year. 1477 00:43:36,111 --> 00:43:37,513 Indeed I attended some of the 1478 00:43:37,513 --> 00:43:37,914 ve lents that were already 1479 00:43:37,914 --> 00:43:39,148 shared. 1480 00:43:39,148 --> 00:43:40,983 I do want to point a little 1481 00:43:40,983 --> 00:43:43,953 bit of some of the work I'm 1482 00:43:43,953 --> 00:43:46,689 doing here with the support 1483 00:43:46,689 --> 00:43:47,890 of our city staff and city 1484 00:43:47,890 --> 00:43:49,890 manager. 1485 00:43:49,692 --> 00:43:52,280 We hosted and met our new 1486 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:52,762 assembly member and the state 1487 00:43:52,762 --> 00:43:54,130 legislature, catherine 1488 00:43:54,130 --> 00:43:55,298 stephanie who represents 1489 00:43:55,298 --> 00:43:57,166 assembly dstrict 19, we 1490 00:43:57,166 --> 00:44:00,336 hosted her last week at south 1491 00:44:00,336 --> 00:44:01,504 city at our city hall and 1492 00:44:01,504 --> 00:44:03,239 discussed many important 1493 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:04,574 policy issues, many assembly 1494 00:44:04,574 --> 00:44:04,907 bills but also things that 1495 00:44:04,907 --> 00:44:06,342 are 1496 00:44:06,342 --> 00:44:08,945 really important to south san 1497 00:44:08,945 --> 00:44:10,790 francisco and this is a great 1498 00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:10,446 opportunity to really say 1499 00:44:10,446 --> 00:44:12,446 this 1500 00:44:12,882 --> 00:44:14,217 has been something that has 1501 00:44:14,217 --> 00:44:16,118 ben filets our community and 1502 00:44:16,118 --> 00:44:18,455 we need additional support on 1503 00:44:18,455 --> 00:44:20,290 this, she was extremely open, 1504 00:44:20,290 --> 00:44:21,224 extremely welcoming and 1505 00:44:21,224 --> 00:44:21,558 extremely willing to work, 1506 00:44:21,558 --> 00:44:22,658 her 1507 00:44:22,658 --> 00:44:24,260 and her team, I want to 1508 00:44:24,260 --> 00:44:25,928 acknowledge and recognize we 1509 00:44:25,928 --> 00:44:28,231 have a strong -- another 1510 00:44:28,231 --> 00:44:28,698 representative in the state 1511 00:44:28,698 --> 00:44:29,866 legislature. 1512 00:44:29,866 --> 00:44:30,233 We're very lucky here in 1513 00:44:30,233 --> 00:44:31,701 south 1514 00:44:31,701 --> 00:44:33,136 san francisco, we have two 1515 00:44:33,136 --> 00:44:35,171 state senators covering, we 1516 00:44:35,171 --> 00:44:37,400 have two assembly members, we 1517 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:38,441 have two also members of the 1518 00:44:38,441 --> 00:44:40,477 san mateo county board of 1519 00:44:40,477 --> 00:44:42,379 supervisors, we have two san 1520 00:44:42,379 --> 00:44:44,481 mateo county board of 1521 00:44:44,481 --> 00:44:45,916 education trustees, so we're 1522 00:44:45,916 --> 00:44:48,916 -- we're well represented and 1523 00:44:50,187 --> 00:44:52,555 again it's about advocacy, 1524 00:44:52,555 --> 00:44:54,391 it's about ensuring that our 1525 00:44:54,391 --> 00:44:54,758 policy priorities that we 1526 00:44:54,758 --> 00:44:56,590 will 1527 00:44:56,590 --> 00:44:59,590 discuss later are well spoken 1528 00:44:59,620 --> 00:45:00,564 for as well. 1529 00:45:00,564 --> 00:45:02,465 I did want to talk about 1530 00:45:02,465 --> 00:45:04,865 upcoming and you'll start 1531 00:45:05,669 --> 00:45:07,538 seeing some of the promotions 1532 00:45:07,538 --> 00:45:08,238 websinger are on APRIL 5 and 1533 00:45:08,238 --> 00:45:09,873 I 1534 00:45:09,873 --> 00:45:10,273 believe the 19th, we're 1535 00:45:10,273 --> 00:45:12,142 moving 1536 00:45:12,142 --> 00:45:13,310 forward with south san 1537 00:45:13,310 --> 00:45:13,710 francisco neighborhood 1538 00:45:13,710 --> 00:45:15,646 cleanup. 1539 00:45:15,646 --> 00:45:18,682 In particular, kick it off in 1540 00:45:18,682 --> 00:45:19,450 some of the areas most 1541 00:45:19,450 --> 00:45:21,452 affected, downtown, old town 1542 00:45:21,452 --> 00:45:21,919 where we see a lot of illegal 1543 00:45:21,919 --> 00:45:23,919 dumping. 1544 00:45:27,457 --> 00:45:28,192 We kicked tis off last year, 1545 00:45:28,192 --> 00:45:28,959 it was extremely successful. 1546 00:45:28,959 --> 00:45:29,660 Thank tos the support of our 1547 00:45:29,660 --> 00:45:30,260 staff, we couldn't do it, 1548 00:45:30,260 --> 00:45:30,761 also 1549 00:45:30,761 --> 00:45:32,196 our volunteer, people that 1550 00:45:32,196 --> 00:45:32,529 came out early on saturday 1551 00:45:32,529 --> 00:45:34,529 and 1552 00:45:34,965 --> 00:45:36,667 we held it it on sunday, this 1553 00:45:36,667 --> 00:45:39,667 year is both on saturdays, 1554 00:45:40,103 --> 00:45:42,239 this is part of an initiative 1555 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,508 I'm so thrilled about, clean 1556 00:45:44,508 --> 00:45:46,811 ssf, part of that we envision 1557 00:45:46,811 --> 00:45:48,813 providing you with some 1558 00:45:48,813 --> 00:45:50,281 shovels, sme picks and some 1559 00:45:50,281 --> 00:45:50,615 garbage bag and is lending 1560 00:45:50,615 --> 00:45:52,615 you 1561 00:45:53,751 --> 00:45:55,586 some gloves and come out and 1562 00:45:55,586 --> 00:45:56,521 build community, cleaning up 1563 00:45:56,521 --> 00:45:57,989 our neighborhoods, you'll see 1564 00:45:57,989 --> 00:45:59,791 that on social media, you'll 1565 00:45:59,791 --> 00:46:01,859 see that in my newsletter 1566 00:46:01,859 --> 00:46:02,326 coming up so I want to 1567 00:46:02,326 --> 00:46:04,195 welcome 1568 00:46:04,195 --> 00:46:06,595 all residents, even visitors 1569 00:46:06,797 --> 00:46:08,633 of south san francisco to 1570 00:46:08,633 --> 00:46:12,233 partake and join me and staff 1571 00:46:13,304 --> 00:46:13,738 and let's clean up south san 1572 00:46:13,738 --> 00:46:15,506 francisco. 1573 00:46:15,506 --> 00:46:16,507 With that in mind, I'm excite 1574 00:46:16,507 --> 00:46:18,109 ted share with our city 1575 00:46:18,109 --> 00:46:20,509 manager that south san 1576 00:46:20,745 --> 00:46:21,513 francisco should be pursuing 1577 00:46:21,513 --> 00:46:23,810 the [Inaudible] Designation, 1578 00:46:23,810 --> 00:46:23,548 that is the clean california 1579 00:46:23,548 --> 00:46:24,682 designation. 1580 00:46:24,682 --> 00:46:27,652 I would like the share that, 1581 00:46:27,652 --> 00:46:30,210 this is a special initiative 1582 00:46:30,210 --> 00:46:31,422 designation put on by the 1583 00:46:31,422 --> 00:46:33,822 governor's office and managed 1584 00:46:33,958 --> 00:46:35,360 by cal trans and it really 1585 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,195 honors communities that are 1586 00:46:37,195 --> 00:46:38,797 dedicated to doing something 1587 00:46:38,797 --> 00:46:40,432 about it, not just saying, 1588 00:46:40,432 --> 00:46:42,567 well, we got to blame so and 1589 00:46:42,567 --> 00:46:44,902 so or that agency has to come 1590 00:46:44,902 --> 00:46:47,205 up and step up for us, so it 1591 00:46:47,205 --> 00:46:48,840 really brings a sense of 1592 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,242 community, it's improving the 1593 00:46:50,242 --> 00:46:51,910 health, it's improving our e 1594 00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:54,910 economy and it's really aso 1595 00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:58,750 as part of this designation, 1596 00:46:58,750 --> 00:47:00,252 it's allowing south city to 1597 00:47:00,252 --> 00:47:00,585 apply for money torx apply 1598 00:47:00,585 --> 00:47:01,887 for 1599 00:47:01,887 --> 00:47:04,189 grants that potentially could 1600 00:47:04,189 --> 00:47:07,125 support us in continuing to 1601 00:47:07,125 --> 00:47:08,760 clean up south city and all 1602 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,760 locations in every area that 1603 00:47:13,499 --> 00:47:13,866 you can imagine, so, the 1604 00:47:13,866 --> 00:47:15,634 first 1605 00:47:15,634 --> 00:47:16,101 hundred designated 1606 00:47:16,101 --> 00:47:16,869 communities 1607 00:47:16,869 --> 00:47:17,302 will continue to receive this 1608 00:47:17,302 --> 00:47:18,237 resource. 1609 00:47:18,237 --> 00:47:19,404 There are already cities, 1610 00:47:19,404 --> 00:47:21,273 bakersfield, fresno, irvine, 1611 00:47:21,273 --> 00:47:22,207 la, can dewing that are part 1612 00:47:22,207 --> 00:47:23,409 of this initiative and I want 1613 00:47:23,409 --> 00:47:23,876 to se our city be 1614 00:47:23,876 --> 00:47:24,810 represented 1615 00:47:24,810 --> 00:47:26,645 as well. 1616 00:47:26,645 --> 00:47:28,948 Now just turning a little 1617 00:47:28,948 --> 00:47:30,316 different lens, I did want to 1618 00:47:30,316 --> 00:47:31,717 ask our city manager if we 1619 00:47:31,717 --> 00:47:32,418 could look into two items 1620 00:47:32,418 --> 00:47:34,418 that 1621 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,880 I've been monitoring as I'm 1622 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:36,455 driving around connecting 1623 00:47:36,455 --> 00:47:37,222 with 1624 00:47:37,222 --> 00:47:39,124 neighborhoods and different 1625 00:47:39,124 --> 00:47:40,292 shopping centers, there are 1626 00:47:40,292 --> 00:47:41,694 certain donation insets in 1627 00:47:41,694 --> 00:47:43,528 various parking lotuses and 1628 00:47:43,528 --> 00:47:45,928 shopping centers, one in 1629 00:47:46,297 --> 00:47:48,567 particular is the parking lot 1630 00:47:48,567 --> 00:47:48,967 right behind five guys 1631 00:47:48,967 --> 00:47:49,968 burgers 1632 00:47:49,968 --> 00:47:52,968 in westborough square, as I 1633 00:47:55,508 --> 00:47:58,508 was there this weekend, it 1634 00:47:58,711 --> 00:48:00,512 wasn't a nice sited to look 1635 00:48:00,512 --> 00:48:02,748 at, I would like to see if we 1636 00:48:02,748 --> 00:48:04,490 could work with the donation 1637 00:48:04,490 --> 00:48:06,850 vendor, how often they clean 1638 00:48:06,850 --> 00:48:07,453 up and that sort of thing. 1639 00:48:07,453 --> 00:48:10,222 The oher thing I started 1640 00:48:10,222 --> 00:48:13,222 noticing is on weekends, many 1641 00:48:13,826 --> 00:48:15,695 amazon trucks are parking for 1642 00:48:15,695 --> 00:48:18,264 more than whatever it is, 1643 00:48:18,264 --> 00:48:19,699 saturdays and sundays, taking 1644 00:48:19,699 --> 00:48:21,334 up perhaps a parking lot that 1645 00:48:21,334 --> 00:48:23,903 could be for residents so I 1646 00:48:23,903 --> 00:48:26,720 want to look at are there 1647 00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:27,206 amazon parking lots that are 1648 00:48:27,206 --> 00:48:28,374 designated, in particular in 1649 00:48:28,374 --> 00:48:29,108 district 5, I'm seeing in 1650 00:48:29,108 --> 00:48:31,108 many 1651 00:48:31,177 --> 00:48:34,177 of our surface city parking 1652 00:48:34,180 --> 00:48:35,581 lotuses, there's a lot of 1653 00:48:35,581 --> 00:48:36,316 amazon distribution delivery 1654 00:48:36,316 --> 00:48:37,417 trucks on there, so I would 1655 00:48:37,417 --> 00:48:39,850 like to follow up and discuss 1656 00:48:39,850 --> 00:48:41,788 a little bit on that. 1657 00:48:41,788 --> 00:48:43,156 >> we're happy to do that. 1658 00:48:43,156 --> 00:48:45,156 >> thank you. 1659 00:48:48,495 --> 00:48:52,950 Lastly I want to adjourn in 1660 00:48:52,698 --> 00:48:54,300 the memory of jose flores. 1661 00:48:54,300 --> 00:48:54,634 He passed away suddenly this 1662 00:48:54,634 --> 00:48:56,634 mo 1663 00:48:57,303 --> 00:48:59,139 bt, I met jose at my 1664 00:48:59,139 --> 00:49:01,539 swearing in this past 1665 00:49:03,810 --> 00:49:04,977 DECEMBER, he's the father of 1666 00:49:04,977 --> 00:49:05,278 douglas cotoad1 resident and 1667 00:49:05,278 --> 00:49:07,278 a 1668 00:49:07,381 --> 00:49:09,149 graduate of our citizens 1669 00:49:09,149 --> 00:49:09,616 academy, I would like to 1670 00:49:09,616 --> 00:49:11,251 honor 1671 00:49:11,251 --> 00:49:12,419 and my his manly continue to 1672 00:49:12,419 --> 00:49:16,190 be a blessing for all tloez 1673 00:49:16,890 --> 00:49:17,491 and equally with the names 1674 00:49:17,491 --> 00:49:17,924 that COUNCILWOMAN Flor 1675 00:49:17,924 --> 00:49:19,559 nicolas 1676 00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:20,994 shared, our condolences to 1677 00:49:20,994 --> 00:49:23,630 those families and loved ones. 1678 00:49:23,630 --> 00:49:24,310 Thank you, that's all I had. 1679 00:49:24,310 --> 00:49:25,432 Next agenda item, please. 1680 00:49:25,432 --> 00:49:26,600 >> thank you, mayor, we will 1681 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,636 now move on to public comment 1682 00:49:29,636 --> 00:49:33,236 and is we will begin with 1683 00:49:38,450 --> 00:49:40,450 cynthia markopoulos. 1684 00:49:40,780 --> 00:49:42,883 >> good evening, at the 1685 00:49:42,883 --> 00:49:44,883 JANUARY 9, 1985 city council 1686 00:49:46,387 --> 00:49:47,870 meeting, the clerk's minutes 1687 00:49:47,870 --> 00:49:49,870 documented mayor hafy's 1688 00:49:49,657 --> 00:49:51,725 comments about the surplus 1689 00:49:51,725 --> 00:49:52,626 magnolia building stating "to 1690 00:49:52,626 --> 00:49:55,260 provide housing was important 1691 00:49:55,663 --> 00:49:56,864 but should not overshadow the 1692 00:49:56,864 --> 00:49:57,298 senior center and I should 1693 00:49:57,298 --> 00:49:58,232 be 1694 00:49:58,232 --> 00:50:00,568 revitalized for seniors and 1695 00:50:00,568 --> 00:50:02,637 use of the community". 1696 00:50:02,637 --> 00:50:05,637 The most recent e-mail to 1697 00:50:05,740 --> 00:50:08,140 attendees of magnolia teglia 1698 00:50:08,342 --> 00:50:11,342 center is they will be 1699 00:50:13,481 --> 00:50:14,182 relocated to the bola center 1700 00:50:14,182 --> 00:50:14,781 for months, and mingling 1701 00:50:14,781 --> 00:50:16,781 adult 1702 00:50:16,851 --> 00:50:18,252 widths daycare center where 1703 00:50:18,252 --> 00:50:21,756 mayor edie said it was a 1704 00:50:21,756 --> 00:50:23,257 concern having adults with 1705 00:50:23,257 --> 00:50:25,126 young kids. 1706 00:50:25,126 --> 00:50:25,526 I agree with you, mayor 1707 00:50:25,526 --> 00:50:26,961 eddie, 1708 00:50:26,961 --> 00:50:28,963 that history is important 1709 00:50:28,963 --> 00:50:30,899 learning about macy's 1710 00:50:30,899 --> 00:50:32,899 warehouse, etc., the 1711 00:50:32,934 --> 00:50:33,334 historical society and 1712 00:50:33,334 --> 00:50:34,369 library 1713 00:50:34,369 --> 00:50:35,360 have limited if no 1714 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,360 information 1715 00:50:38,339 --> 00:50:40,909 on the msb even though they 1716 00:50:40,909 --> 00:50:43,144 had orange library grand 1717 00:50:43,144 --> 00:50:44,712 avenue's information as well. 1718 00:50:44,712 --> 00:50:46,414 As we witnessed over decades 1719 00:50:46,414 --> 00:50:48,883 in history, it is to wipe out 1720 00:50:48,883 --> 00:50:50,352 any mem ray or eliminate any 1721 00:50:50,352 --> 00:50:52,752 significance of something but 1722 00:50:52,887 --> 00:50:54,522 we have researched the past 1723 00:50:54,522 --> 00:50:56,922 thorough clerk's minutes over 1724 00:50:57,125 --> 00:50:58,460 the past six decades 1725 00:50:58,460 --> 00:51:00,860 documenting the importance of 1726 00:51:00,996 --> 00:51:03,640 the msb and we will not let 1727 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:04,699 you forget it especially when 1728 00:51:04,699 --> 00:51:07,100 30% of our population is 55 1729 00:51:07,100 --> 00:51:09,805 years and older and that the 1730 00:51:09,805 --> 00:51:11,406 msb had 188 thousand visitors 1731 00:51:11,406 --> 00:51:11,773 annually and was the most 1732 00:51:11,773 --> 00:51:13,773 used 1733 00:51:14,476 --> 00:51:15,610 facility as noted in jim 1734 00:51:15,610 --> 00:51:17,610 steel's staff report. 1735 00:51:18,847 --> 00:51:21,216 I copied each of you in an 1736 00:51:21,216 --> 00:51:21,550 e-mail to marie patea, not 1737 00:51:21,550 --> 00:51:21,950 one 1738 00:51:21,950 --> 00:51:23,752 replay 1739 00:51:23,752 --> 00:51:25,220 f mri for you, I put 1740 00:51:25,220 --> 00:51:27,122 in a public records request 1741 00:51:27,122 --> 00:51:29,157 dated MARCH 14 and I received 1742 00:51:29,157 --> 00:51:30,580 an extension on MARCH 24 1743 00:51:30,580 --> 00:51:32,580 specifically addressing the 1744 00:51:32,194 --> 00:51:33,762 special city council meeting 1745 00:51:33,762 --> 00:51:35,762 of APRIL 29. 1746 00:51:35,898 --> 00:51:37,499 Let hope in fairness it is 1747 00:51:37,499 --> 00:51:39,801 complied with in ample time 1748 00:51:39,801 --> 00:51:40,436 before the 29th meeting 1749 00:51:40,436 --> 00:51:42,436 concerning the msb. 1750 00:51:43,538 --> 00:51:45,700 Thank you. 1751 00:51:45,700 --> 00:51:46,800 >> thank you, MADAM City 1752 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:47,977 manager, can you confirm the 1753 00:51:47,977 --> 00:51:49,912 date, time and location for 1754 00:51:49,912 --> 00:51:52,312 the upcoming meeting, please. 1755 00:51:52,481 --> 00:51:53,849 >> for the msb study session? 1756 00:51:53,849 --> 00:51:55,117 >> yes. 1757 00:51:55,117 --> 00:51:57,117 >> it's wednesday APRIL 29 1758 00:51:57,586 --> 00:51:58,687 here at the library parks and 1759 00:51:58,687 --> 00:51:59,210 recreation council chambers 1760 00:51:59,210 --> 00:51:59,388 at 1761 00:51:59,388 --> 00:52:01,388 6:30. 1762 00:52:02,858 --> 00:52:04,727 >> thank you. 1763 00:52:04,727 --> 00:52:05,895 >> thank you, mayor, if I MAY 1764 00:52:05,895 --> 00:52:06,328 add for that specific 1765 00:52:06,328 --> 00:52:08,328 meeting, 1766 00:52:09,980 --> 00:52:11,601 we intend to have the agenda 1767 00:52:11,601 --> 00:52:12,768 published by friday APRIL 25. 1768 00:52:12,768 --> 00:52:14,768 >> thank you. 1769 00:52:29,619 --> 00:52:33,890 Moving on the sam ch icuti. 1770 00:52:33,890 --> 00:52:33,489 >> mayor flores, board 1771 00:52:33,489 --> 00:52:34,724 member, 1772 00:52:34,724 --> 00:52:36,559 south san francisco city 1773 00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:38,427 council, my name is sam, I'm 1774 00:52:38,427 --> 00:52:38,761 glad that the city council 1775 00:52:38,761 --> 00:52:40,290 has 1776 00:52:40,290 --> 00:52:41,597 finally decided to have a 1777 00:52:41,597 --> 00:52:43,499 special meeting for the msb 1778 00:52:43,499 --> 00:52:44,734 next month on the 29th. 1779 00:52:44,734 --> 00:52:48,334 After all, it's only been two 1780 00:52:48,638 --> 00:52:50,773 and a half years. 1781 00:52:50,773 --> 00:52:51,474 I suppose that the city 1782 00:52:51,474 --> 00:52:52,242 council imagined that the 1783 00:52:52,242 --> 00:52:53,976 coalition of citizens against 1784 00:52:53,976 --> 00:52:56,976 tearing down the msb would 1785 00:52:57,547 --> 00:52:59,415 have dissipated by now. 1786 00:52:59,415 --> 00:53:00,783 That in and of itself is 1787 00:53:00,783 --> 00:53:01,718 short 1788 00:53:01,718 --> 00:53:04,118 sighted by this council. 1789 00:53:04,955 --> 00:53:06,590 As you have heard in past 1790 00:53:06,590 --> 00:53:08,990 meetings, more than 30% of 1791 00:53:09,326 --> 00:53:10,794 south san francisco residents 1792 00:53:10,794 --> 00:53:13,363 are retired, will be retired 1793 00:53:13,363 --> 00:53:15,232 or are close to retirement in 1794 00:53:15,232 --> 00:53:18,832 a very short period of time. 1795 00:53:20,503 --> 00:53:20,870 I recently saw a youtube 1796 00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:22,870 video 1797 00:53:22,906 --> 00:53:23,240 of the city council meeting 1798 00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:23,707 of 1799 00:53:23,707 --> 00:53:24,374 last AUGUST. 1800 00:53:24,374 --> 00:53:27,311 In this video, the city 1801 00:53:27,311 --> 00:53:27,744 planner of south san 1802 00:53:27,744 --> 00:53:29,179 francisco 1803 00:53:29,179 --> 00:53:29,613 tony said almost all 1804 00:53:29,613 --> 00:53:31,448 available 1805 00:53:31,448 --> 00:53:31,815 parcels of land owned by 1806 00:53:31,815 --> 00:53:33,815 south 1807 00:53:33,984 --> 00:53:34,318 san francisco have been or 1808 00:53:34,318 --> 00:53:35,385 are 1809 00:53:35,385 --> 00:53:37,221 being developed. 1810 00:53:37,221 --> 00:53:38,550 What exactly is the city 1811 00:53:38,550 --> 00:53:39,356 council's outlook for south 1812 00:53:39,356 --> 00:53:40,724 san francisco? 1813 00:53:40,724 --> 00:53:43,724 Do they see south san 1814 00:53:45,829 --> 00:53:46,262 francisco as a mini me to san 1815 00:53:46,262 --> 00:53:47,310 francisco? 1816 00:53:47,310 --> 00:53:48,832 Additional apartments are not 1817 00:53:48,832 --> 00:53:50,701 the answer to those that have 1818 00:53:50,701 --> 00:53:51,869 been residents of south san 1819 00:53:51,869 --> 00:53:53,360 francisco for decades. 1820 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,600 Community center where w can 1821 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,342 can gather is a necessity for 1822 00:53:58,342 --> 00:53:59,143 an aging populous. 1823 00:53:59,143 --> 00:54:01,111 The magnolia center is 1824 00:54:01,111 --> 00:54:03,681 certainly not the answer, it 1825 00:54:03,681 --> 00:54:04,949 can barely accommodate the 1826 00:54:04,949 --> 00:54:07,349 people going there now. 1827 00:54:07,384 --> 00:54:08,753 What will happen when more 1828 00:54:08,753 --> 00:54:10,753 people become seniors? 1829 00:54:10,821 --> 00:54:11,288 Is this council's answer to 1830 00:54:11,288 --> 00:54:13,288 go 1831 00:54:13,590 --> 00:54:14,525 to the senior center in san 1832 00:54:14,525 --> 00:54:16,525 bruno? 1833 00:54:16,627 --> 00:54:18,963 Save the msb as a community 1834 00:54:18,963 --> 00:54:21,320 center for us, thank you. 1835 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,320 >> thank you. 1836 00:54:37,915 --> 00:54:39,317 Next up. 1837 00:54:39,317 --> 00:54:39,751 >> a correction to the 1838 00:54:39,751 --> 00:54:41,751 meeting 1839 00:54:43,254 --> 00:54:43,955 is tuesday APRIL 29th, thank 1840 00:54:43,955 --> 00:54:45,356 you. 1841 00:54:45,356 --> 00:54:47,356 >> my apologies. 1842 00:54:47,926 --> 00:54:50,495 >> now we're moving on to 1843 00:54:50,495 --> 00:54:52,495 tony 1844 00:54:58,970 --> 00:55:00,970 allen. 1845 00:55:01,380 --> 00:55:04,380 >> good evening, my name is 1846 00:55:08,146 --> 00:55:10,248 tony alan, I live near loss 1847 00:55:10,248 --> 00:55:13,785 aritos, I wanted to just say 1848 00:55:13,785 --> 00:55:16,785 thank you for your newsletter 1849 00:55:16,821 --> 00:55:19,291 that comes out, mayor eddie, 1850 00:55:19,291 --> 00:55:21,193 and I host english language 1851 00:55:21,193 --> 00:55:23,295 students and I have students 1852 00:55:23,295 --> 00:55:24,363 often that are spanish 1853 00:55:24,363 --> 00:55:26,498 speaking or speak another 1854 00:55:26,498 --> 00:55:27,999 language and I just really 1855 00:55:27,999 --> 00:55:29,267 appreciate that your 1856 00:55:29,267 --> 00:55:30,350 newsletter gave a whole lot 1857 00:55:30,350 --> 00:55:31,869 of 1858 00:55:31,869 --> 00:55:33,939 good information about how 1859 00:55:33,939 --> 00:55:36,939 inclusive and diverse and how 1860 00:55:37,108 --> 00:55:39,444 south san francisco really 1861 00:55:39,444 --> 00:55:41,713 values our diversity and our 1862 00:55:41,713 --> 00:55:43,582 inclusiveness and that you 1863 00:55:43,582 --> 00:55:44,883 gave great resources and so 1864 00:55:44,883 --> 00:55:46,118 please, I hope we continue to 1865 00:55:46,118 --> 00:55:47,519 do that. 1866 00:55:47,519 --> 00:55:51,119 I obviously came at the right 1867 00:55:52,357 --> 00:55:54,590 time, I'm also an adu person 1868 00:55:54,590 --> 00:55:55,894 and so I'm proud of south san 1869 00:55:55,894 --> 00:55:56,227 francisco and I just wanted 1870 00:55:56,227 --> 00:55:56,728 to 1871 00:55:56,728 --> 00:55:57,162 mention that. 1872 00:55:57,162 --> 00:55:59,162 Thank you. 1873 00:56:01,667 --> 00:56:03,667 >> thank you. 1874 00:56:18,417 --> 00:56:20,417 >> fianola? 1875 00:56:21,353 --> 00:56:22,821 >> good evening, 1876 00:56:22,821 --> 00:56:24,821 councilmembers, and everyone 1877 00:56:28,928 --> 00:56:29,362 in the auditorium and 1878 00:56:29,362 --> 00:56:31,362 watching. 1879 00:56:31,430 --> 00:56:31,897 In 1977, the city exercised 1880 00:56:31,897 --> 00:56:33,897 an 1881 00:56:34,300 --> 00:56:37,300 option to purchase the value 1882 00:56:39,504 --> 00:56:42,504 giant, also known as the 1883 00:56:42,642 --> 00:56:44,642 municipal services building. 1884 00:56:45,544 --> 00:56:47,544 1977. 1885 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,680 You exercised the option and 1886 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,920 you purchased the building. 1887 00:56:59,626 --> 00:57:03,226 That was quite a while ago. 1888 00:57:04,898 --> 00:57:05,398 Now, in part, you needed 1889 00:57:05,398 --> 00:57:06,166 extra 1890 00:57:06,166 --> 00:57:08,201 space, documents, proof, one 1891 00:57:08,201 --> 00:57:08,568 of the things you needed 1892 00:57:08,568 --> 00:57:10,303 extra 1893 00:57:10,303 --> 00:57:11,300 space for was a senior 1894 00:57:11,300 --> 00:57:13,300 center, 1895 00:57:13,306 --> 00:57:16,906 so you dedicated space at the 1896 00:57:19,546 --> 00:57:20,747 msb for a senior center. 1897 00:57:20,747 --> 00:57:22,282 Where MR. Rozzi is that 1898 00:57:22,282 --> 00:57:23,160 documented in the 1899 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,160 environmental impact report 1900 00:57:28,588 --> 00:57:28,889 with respect to with drawing 1901 00:57:28,889 --> 00:57:30,889 a 1902 00:57:30,891 --> 00:57:32,292 senior center, a dedicated 1903 00:57:32,292 --> 00:57:35,292 senior center from tens of 1904 00:57:41,501 --> 00:57:42,235 thousands of peopl 1905 00:57:42,235 --> 00:57:43,300 in this city, where is that 1906 00:57:43,300 --> 00:57:43,536 environmental impact report, 1907 00:57:43,536 --> 00:57:45,536 it's supposed to 1908 00:57:45,572 --> 00:57:47,572 document significant impacts, 1909 00:57:48,442 --> 00:57:50,377 not documented. 1910 00:57:50,377 --> 00:57:53,377 In addition, you put a 1911 00:57:54,947 --> 00:57:57,718 proposition on the ballot to 1912 00:57:57,718 --> 00:58:00,718 reimburse you for the payment 1913 00:58:01,322 --> 00:58:03,722 of 1.39 million dollars for 1914 00:58:04,658 --> 00:58:06,658 that property. 1915 00:58:08,329 --> 00:58:10,729 You assessed 5 cents per 1916 00:58:11,165 --> 00:58:13,565 hundred dollars, per hundred 1917 00:58:16,403 --> 00:58:16,870 dollars, 5 cents, for 20 1918 00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:18,870 years 1919 00:58:19,807 --> 00:58:20,174 on taxable property in this 1920 00:58:20,174 --> 00:58:22,174 city. 1921 00:58:23,677 --> 00:58:24,440 We paid for that building 1922 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,440 over 1923 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,680 there, property owners did. 1924 00:58:30,651 --> 00:58:32,651 Where's the money? 1925 00:58:33,454 --> 00:58:34,550 I asked for an accounting of 1926 00:58:34,550 --> 00:58:34,755 where that money is. 1927 00:58:34,755 --> 00:58:35,222 How much money did you 1928 00:58:35,222 --> 00:58:37,222 collect? 1929 00:58:38,693 --> 00:58:41,930 You know, roughly speaking, 1930 00:58:44,865 --> 00:58:46,801 let's say 44 thousand dollars 1931 00:58:46,801 --> 00:58:50,401 was paid by a property over 1932 00:58:50,705 --> 00:58:52,340 the 20 years, that's 350 1933 00:58:52,340 --> 00:58:53,574 properties to cover that 1934 00:58:53,574 --> 00:58:55,574 price, okay. 1935 00:58:56,100 --> 00:58:57,645 Where is the money? 1936 00:58:57,645 --> 00:58:59,450 I've requested that money -- 1937 00:58:59,450 --> 00:59:02,450 the accounting of that money 1938 00:59:03,170 --> 00:59:04,752 from the city, mo response of 1939 00:59:04,752 --> 00:59:06,921 records, I wonder why. 1940 00:59:06,921 --> 00:59:09,758 The msb has been a cash cow 1941 00:59:09,758 --> 00:59:10,592 for you as you know including 1942 00:59:10,592 --> 00:59:12,293 the fire department which 1943 00:59:12,293 --> 00:59:15,293 turned out to be political 1944 00:59:16,165 --> 00:59:16,830 suicide, didn't it, MR. 1945 00:59:16,830 --> 00:59:17,465 Addiego. 1946 00:59:17,465 --> 00:59:18,233 Where's the money? 1947 00:59:18,233 --> 00:59:20,233 Thank you. 1948 00:59:23,838 --> 00:59:25,838 >> thank you. 1949 00:59:33,648 --> 00:59:34,882 >> judy? 1950 00:59:34,882 --> 00:59:35,250 >> my name's judy, I have 1951 00:59:35,250 --> 00:59:37,250 been 1952 00:59:38,186 --> 00:59:39,454 a a resident of south city 1953 00:59:39,454 --> 00:59:39,754 since 1963, this is my home, 1954 00:59:39,754 --> 00:59:41,289 I 1955 00:59:41,289 --> 00:59:41,790 love it and I hate some of 1956 00:59:41,790 --> 00:59:42,457 the 1957 00:59:42,457 --> 00:59:44,457 changes I'm seeing. 1958 00:59:45,727 --> 00:59:48,830 I would hate to see the msb 1959 00:59:48,830 --> 00:59:51,830 building gone because we need 1960 00:59:52,267 --> 00:59:53,868 it for groups. 1961 00:59:53,868 --> 00:59:55,437 AUGUST 24, 2019, I was 1962 00:59:55,437 --> 00:59:55,971 diagnosed with advanced 1963 00:59:55,971 --> 00:59:56,438 breast 1964 00:59:56,438 --> 00:59:58,240 cancer. 1965 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,876 What I found is that there is 1966 01:00:00,876 --> 01:00:02,244 no breast cancer support 1967 01:00:02,244 --> 01:00:03,645 group 1968 01:00:03,645 --> 01:00:03,979 anywhere near, the closest 1969 01:00:03,979 --> 01:00:04,913 one 1970 01:00:04,913 --> 01:00:06,615 was san francisco which I 1971 01:00:06,615 --> 01:00:10,520 don't care to g to at night. 1972 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:11,353 The other one was palo alto, 1973 01:00:11,353 --> 01:00:11,753 that building would be 1974 01:00:11,753 --> 01:00:13,422 perfect 1975 01:00:13,422 --> 01:00:13,789 for a breast cancer support 1976 01:00:13,789 --> 01:00:15,789 group. 1977 01:00:16,926 --> 01:00:18,127 One in every four women get 1978 01:00:18,127 --> 01:00:19,295 breast cancer during their 1979 01:00:19,295 --> 01:00:19,761 lifetime and you need the 1980 01:00:19,761 --> 01:00:21,363 support. 1981 01:00:21,363 --> 01:00:24,363 I am currently in remission 1982 01:00:24,366 --> 01:00:25,868 but I'm not cancer free. 1983 01:00:25,868 --> 01:00:27,269 So, -- ask it was tough 1984 01:00:27,269 --> 01:00:27,603 because like I said, 2019, 1985 01:00:27,603 --> 01:00:29,603 the 1986 01:00:30,106 --> 01:00:32,700 end of it, I was diagnosed, 1987 01:00:32,700 --> 01:00:33,609 I'm -- I'll keep my time, 1988 01:00:33,609 --> 01:00:34,777 eddie, don't worry. 1989 01:00:34,777 --> 01:00:35,110 >> she hadn't started. 1990 01:00:35,110 --> 01:00:37,460 Er 1991 01:00:37,460 --> 01:00:39,282 >> that's okay, I'm aware, 1992 01:00:39,282 --> 01:00:39,982 anyway, when I started, it 1993 01:00:39,982 --> 01:00:41,982 was 1994 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,887 beginning of covid, going for 1995 01:00:44,887 --> 01:00:46,188 cancer treatment, they're 1996 01:00:46,188 --> 01:00:48,558 phenomenal at ucsf, during 1997 01:00:48,558 --> 01:00:49,910 that time it was scary and 1998 01:00:49,910 --> 01:00:50,226 not 1999 01:00:50,226 --> 01:00:52,626 having a support system, 2000 01:00:52,828 --> 01:00:55,828 you're in your home, you're 2001 01:00:56,310 --> 01:00:58,167 isolating, it was very 2002 01:00:58,167 --> 01:01:01,704 depressing and to be in your 2003 01:01:01,704 --> 01:01:04,704 home alone fr years because 2004 01:01:08,478 --> 01:01:09,212 you're immune -- immune know 2005 01:01:09,212 --> 01:01:11,714 fomented was horrible ad I 2006 01:01:11,714 --> 01:01:12,548 would like the start one in 2007 01:01:12,548 --> 01:01:14,284 that building as soon as we 2008 01:01:14,284 --> 01:01:15,510 decide not to demolish it, 2009 01:01:15,510 --> 01:01:16,952 thank you. 2010 01:01:16,952 --> 01:01:18,354 >> just for your information, 2011 01:01:18,354 --> 01:01:20,189 so just for your iformation 2012 01:01:20,189 --> 01:01:22,250 for breast cancer support 2013 01:01:22,250 --> 01:01:22,425 group, contact bay area 2014 01:01:22,425 --> 01:01:24,425 cancer 2015 01:01:24,561 --> 01:01:24,894 connections and this is in 2016 01:01:24,894 --> 01:01:26,894 san 2017 01:01:27,229 --> 01:01:29,229 mateo county. 2018 01:01:29,299 --> 01:01:30,330 >> thank you, mayor, that 2019 01:01:30,330 --> 01:01:30,700 concludes anyone registered 2020 01:01:30,700 --> 01:01:31,670 to 2021 01:01:31,670 --> 01:01:32,102 speak. 2022 01:01:32,102 --> 01:01:33,737 Do we have anyone else in the 2023 01:01:33,737 --> 01:01:34,169 audience that did not 2024 01:01:34,169 --> 01:01:36,169 register? 2025 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,600 Go ahead. 2026 01:01:39,108 --> 01:01:40,510 F you don't mind coming up to 2027 01:01:40,510 --> 01:01:41,878 the mic., please, thank you. 2028 01:01:41,878 --> 01:01:42,345 Just so everyone at home can 2029 01:01:42,345 --> 01:01:44,345 hear you. 2030 01:01:45,182 --> 01:01:48,182 >> I was wondering, I heard 2031 01:01:48,552 --> 01:01:49,180 archer aviation is going to 2032 01:01:49,180 --> 01:01:50,620 be 2033 01:01:50,620 --> 01:01:50,988 flying this year, is that 2034 01:01:50,988 --> 01:01:52,988 true 2035 01:01:55,425 --> 01:01:57,394 in south city? 2036 01:01:57,394 --> 01:01:58,394 >> sorry, we can't respond to 2037 01:01:58,394 --> 01:02:00,394 public comment. 2038 01:02:00,496 --> 01:02:02,132 >> that's basically -- it was 2039 01:02:02,132 --> 01:02:02,565 more of a question than a 2040 01:02:02,565 --> 01:02:03,934 statement. 2041 01:02:03,934 --> 01:02:05,101 That's it. 2042 01:02:05,101 --> 01:02:06,869 That was basically it. 2043 01:02:06,869 --> 01:02:07,571 >> MADAM City manager, if you 2044 01:02:07,571 --> 01:02:08,371 could follow up with the 2045 01:02:08,371 --> 01:02:10,371 individual. 2046 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:11,374 >> if I could get your name 2047 01:02:11,374 --> 01:02:13,210 and contact number, aisle 2048 01:02:13,210 --> 01:02:14,411 give 2049 01:02:14,411 --> 01:02:16,280 -- I'll give you a call. 2050 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:16,980 >> thank you, mayor, that 2051 01:02:16,980 --> 01:02:17,748 kondsbacker concludes our 2052 01:02:17,748 --> 01:02:18,715 speakers and I wanted to note 2053 01:02:18,715 --> 01:02:20,884 for the record, we received 2054 01:02:20,884 --> 01:02:23,870 and you should all receive in 2055 01:02:23,870 --> 01:02:23,787 your ipad an e-comment from 2056 01:02:23,787 --> 01:02:25,422 chef ava. 2057 01:02:25,422 --> 01:02:25,990 >> great, thank you, that has 2058 01:02:25,990 --> 01:02:27,990 been received. 2059 01:02:28,225 --> 01:02:29,260 >> thank you, moving on to 2060 01:02:29,260 --> 01:02:30,427 consent calendar. 2061 01:02:30,427 --> 01:02:32,963 Item 3 is a motion to approve 2062 01:02:32,963 --> 01:02:35,363 the minutes of MARCH 12, 2025. 2063 01:02:35,766 --> 01:02:38,102 Item 4 is a motion to accept 2064 01:02:38,102 --> 01:02:39,270 measure w citizens' oversight 2065 01:02:39,270 --> 01:02:39,770 committee report 2066 01:02:39,770 --> 01:02:41,770 independently 2067 01:02:43,641 --> 01:02:45,743 verifying fiscal year 2023-24 2068 01:02:45,743 --> 01:02:46,243 measure w revenue and is 2069 01:02:46,243 --> 01:02:47,144 expenditures. 2070 01:02:47,144 --> 01:02:49,480 Item 5 is a motion to receive 2071 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:50,180 and file the city's housing 2072 01:02:50,180 --> 01:02:50,881 successor agency annual 2073 01:02:50,881 --> 01:02:52,881 report 2074 01:02:53,550 --> 01:02:55,253 for fiscal year 2023-24. 2075 01:02:55,253 --> 01:02:55,552 Item 6 is a report regarding 2076 01:02:55,552 --> 01:02:57,552 a 2077 01:02:58,756 --> 01:03:00,691 funding agreement with san 2078 01:03:00,691 --> 01:03:01,392 mateo county transportation 2079 01:03:01,392 --> 01:03:02,994 authority for the harbor 2080 01:03:02,994 --> 01:03:04,862 master spit project. 2081 01:03:04,862 --> 01:03:06,497 6a is the resolution. 2082 01:03:06,497 --> 01:03:07,164 Item 7 is a report regarding 2083 01:03:07,164 --> 01:03:09,164 a 2084 01:03:11,435 --> 01:03:13,435 resolution authorizing the 2085 01:03:13,671 --> 01:03:16,507 creation of cdbg ramps and 2086 01:03:16,507 --> 01:03:18,610 paths, approval of budget 2087 01:03:18,610 --> 01:03:19,777 amendment number 25.046 and 2088 01:03:19,777 --> 01:03:20,912 authorization o advertise the 2089 01:03:20,912 --> 01:03:22,580 project for cnstruction. 2090 01:03:22,580 --> 01:03:24,215 Item 7a is the resolution. 2091 01:03:24,215 --> 01:03:24,516 Item 8 is a report regarding 2092 01:03:24,516 --> 01:03:25,616 a 2093 01:03:25,616 --> 01:03:25,950 second reading and adoption 2094 01:03:25,950 --> 01:03:27,652 of 2095 01:03:27,652 --> 01:03:29,200 an ordinance amending the 2096 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,420 south san francisco municipal 2097 01:03:32,723 --> 01:03:33,958 code to add chapter 8.100 2098 01:03:33,958 --> 01:03:35,360 local preference and is 2099 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:36,728 requirements to title 8 to 2100 01:03:36,728 --> 01:03:38,563 define a preference policy 2101 01:03:38,563 --> 01:03:40,198 requirement for housing units 2102 01:03:40,198 --> 01:03:40,565 regulated by the city of 2103 01:03:40,565 --> 01:03:42,534 south 2104 01:03:42,534 --> 01:03:43,935 san francisco in order to 2105 01:03:43,935 --> 01:03:45,770 prioritize housing applicants 2106 01:03:45,770 --> 01:03:46,137 who live and/or work in the 2107 01:03:46,137 --> 01:03:48,137 city. 2108 01:03:48,807 --> 01:03:50,175 Item 8a is the ordinance. 2109 01:03:50,175 --> 01:03:52,244 >> thank you, are there any 2110 01:03:52,244 --> 01:03:52,710 members who wuld like to 2111 01:03:52,710 --> 01:03:53,644 pull 2112 01:03:53,644 --> 01:03:55,644 any agenda items? 2113 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:56,614 >> item 6 and 7. 2114 01:03:56,614 --> 01:03:57,849 >> 6 and 7. 2115 01:03:57,849 --> 01:03:59,450 Anyone else? 2116 01:03:59,450 --> 01:04:01,185 Okay. 2117 01:04:01,185 --> 01:04:01,753 I'm okay with doing those 2118 01:04:01,753 --> 01:04:03,753 right now. 2119 01:04:04,423 --> 01:04:07,423 So we'll start with item 6. 2120 01:04:09,528 --> 01:04:11,398 >> let me promote our staff 2121 01:04:11,398 --> 01:04:13,398 here. 2122 01:04:13,932 --> 01:04:14,633 She's online, are you going 2123 01:04:14,633 --> 01:04:16,633 to 2124 01:04:18,537 --> 01:04:21,537 talk, I'm going promote her. 2125 01:04:22,410 --> 01:04:24,376 >> who are we talking to? 2126 01:04:24,376 --> 01:04:25,778 >> she's coming, adrianna. 2127 01:04:25,778 --> 01:04:27,778 Here she is. 2128 01:04:28,130 --> 01:04:28,380 >> is she here? 2129 01:04:28,380 --> 01:04:30,380 Okay. 2130 01:04:32,684 --> 01:04:35,120 So, this item has to do with 2131 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:35,820 roughly an one acre piece of 2132 01:04:35,820 --> 01:04:36,354 property that's out a the 2133 01:04:36,354 --> 01:04:36,588 marina with wr 2134 01:04:36,588 --> 01:04:38,457 the harbor 2135 01:04:38,457 --> 01:04:41,457 master is and it's habitually 2136 01:04:41,693 --> 01:04:43,829 under water when we have king 2137 01:04:43,829 --> 01:04:44,764 tides to an amazing degree. 2138 01:04:44,764 --> 01:04:47,164 We've identified some money 2139 01:04:48,601 --> 01:04:49,769 but I just need to understand 2140 01:04:49,769 --> 01:04:50,102 we were aarded a grant and 2141 01:04:50,102 --> 01:04:51,404 we 2142 01:04:51,404 --> 01:04:51,703 have to match the grant with 2143 01:04:51,703 --> 01:04:53,703 a 2144 01:04:53,806 --> 01:04:55,874 like amount of dollars but 2145 01:04:55,874 --> 01:04:56,209 that grant has expired, so 2146 01:04:56,209 --> 01:04:57,710 can 2147 01:04:57,710 --> 01:04:59,111 you explain to me the 2148 01:04:59,111 --> 01:05:02,111 mechanism that is going to 2149 01:05:03,416 --> 01:05:03,917 ensure that we have 2150 01:05:03,917 --> 01:05:04,851 participation. 2151 01:05:04,851 --> 01:05:06,851 >> yes, of course. 2152 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:08,210 So, we've had this fnding 2153 01:05:08,210 --> 01:05:10,210 agreement ongoing. 2154 01:05:11,790 --> 01:05:13,426 It's kind of a logistical 2155 01:05:13,426 --> 01:05:15,426 funding agreement adjustment. 2156 01:05:16,762 --> 01:05:18,631 We applied for an extension 2157 01:05:18,631 --> 01:05:22,231 and the ta denied that and 2158 01:05:22,735 --> 01:05:23,436 said they wanted to create a 2159 01:05:23,436 --> 01:05:25,305 new funding agreement. 2160 01:05:25,305 --> 01:05:25,672 All of our invoices will 2161 01:05:25,672 --> 01:05:27,606 still 2162 01:05:27,606 --> 01:05:27,941 be paid between the gap of 2163 01:05:27,941 --> 01:05:29,142 the 2164 01:05:29,142 --> 01:05:31,311 old funding agreement and the 2165 01:05:31,311 --> 01:05:32,612 new one. 2166 01:05:32,612 --> 01:05:33,646 Yeah, did that answer your 2167 01:05:33,646 --> 01:05:35,646 question, councilmember? 2168 01:05:35,748 --> 01:05:36,115 >> so, the invoices that 2169 01:05:36,115 --> 01:05:37,650 we've 2170 01:05:37,650 --> 01:05:39,285 incurred to date are going to 2171 01:05:39,285 --> 01:05:40,220 be covered by the ta grant? 2172 01:05:40,220 --> 01:05:41,854 >> correct. 2173 01:05:41,854 --> 01:05:44,854 >> and then moving ahead once 2174 01:05:44,924 --> 01:05:47,460 we have the design for how 2175 01:05:47,460 --> 01:05:50,460 we're going to improve that 2176 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:53,934 air -- area so it's not 2177 01:05:53,934 --> 01:05:55,769 overtaught with water, the 2178 01:05:55,769 --> 01:05:57,170 water would eventually 2179 01:05:57,170 --> 01:05:58,338 penetrate the landfill and be 2180 01:05:58,338 --> 01:06:00,106 an environmental disaster, so 2181 01:06:00,106 --> 01:06:02,575 where do we expect to find 2182 01:06:02,575 --> 01:06:04,511 funds potentially for the 2183 01:06:04,511 --> 01:06:06,146 actual construction? 2184 01:06:06,146 --> 01:06:07,747 >> excellent question. 2185 01:06:07,747 --> 01:06:08,448 Currently we have a 2186 01:06:08,448 --> 01:06:10,250 consultant 2187 01:06:10,250 --> 01:06:12,219 looking into feasible gants 2188 01:06:12,219 --> 01:06:14,521 to cover this construction. 2189 01:06:14,521 --> 01:06:15,689 We are at the beginning 2190 01:06:15,689 --> 01:06:17,689 phases 2191 01:06:17,758 --> 01:06:19,159 of grant research and I can 2192 01:06:19,159 --> 01:06:20,494 certainly update you as we 2193 01:06:20,494 --> 01:06:22,529 look into our options. 2194 01:06:22,529 --> 01:06:23,664 >> okay. 2195 01:06:23,664 --> 01:06:26,934 Thank you, that's all I have. 2196 01:06:26,934 --> 01:06:28,934 >> thank you. 2197 01:06:30,370 --> 01:06:31,572 Item number 7? 2198 01:06:31,572 --> 01:06:33,540 >> who's going to help me 2199 01:06:33,540 --> 01:06:35,342 with 2200 01:06:35,342 --> 01:06:37,342 that? 2201 01:06:37,677 --> 01:06:39,677 So, MR. Wilson. 2202 01:06:41,414 --> 01:06:42,817 So, is tere a list of 2203 01:06:42,817 --> 01:06:44,985 projects that we've already 2204 01:06:44,985 --> 01:06:47,454 determined are going to be 2205 01:06:47,454 --> 01:06:50,240 part of this ramp and path 2206 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:51,425 million dollar project? 2207 01:06:51,425 --> 01:06:53,425 >> good evening, honorable 2208 01:06:53,461 --> 01:06:55,563 members tof council, johnny 2209 01:06:55,563 --> 01:06:57,563 wilson, your associate 2210 01:07:01,435 --> 01:07:01,903 engineer with the engineering 2211 01:07:01,903 --> 01:07:03,700 department. 2212 01:07:03,700 --> 01:07:05,720 So, your question is with 2213 01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:07,241 regard to the scope of the 2214 01:07:07,241 --> 01:07:09,241 project, yeah. 2215 01:07:12,113 --> 01:07:13,514 Approximately 80 curb ramps 2216 01:07:13,514 --> 01:07:15,183 distributed roughly equally 2217 01:07:15,183 --> 01:07:16,584 among the five districts. 2218 01:07:16,584 --> 01:07:17,180 >> that was the next 2219 01:07:17,180 --> 01:07:17,752 question, 2220 01:07:17,752 --> 01:07:18,860 that's great, so that list 2221 01:07:18,860 --> 01:07:18,853 can 2222 01:07:18,853 --> 01:07:20,254 be shared? 2223 01:07:20,254 --> 01:07:21,189 >> yeah. 2224 01:07:21,189 --> 01:07:23,557 Just putting together a 2225 01:07:23,557 --> 01:07:23,891 website for it, I've got a 2226 01:07:23,891 --> 01:07:24,392 map 2227 01:07:24,392 --> 01:07:26,392 that's ready. 2228 01:07:28,596 --> 01:07:29,464 As soon as this project is 2229 01:07:29,464 --> 01:07:30,698 created, I'll create that 2230 01:07:30,698 --> 01:07:33,534 website and share that map, 2231 01:07:33,534 --> 01:07:36,571 it's teed up and ready to go 2232 01:07:36,571 --> 01:07:36,904 and we're also constructing 2233 01:07:36,904 --> 01:07:38,139 an 2234 01:07:38,139 --> 01:07:38,640 accessible path to cypress 2235 01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:39,741 and 2236 01:07:39,741 --> 01:07:40,542 pine park, that's the other 2237 01:07:40,542 --> 01:07:42,343 component. 2238 01:07:42,343 --> 01:07:43,678 >> for downtown? 2239 01:07:43,678 --> 01:07:44,110 That's great, I just needed 2240 01:07:44,110 --> 01:07:45,146 to 2241 01:07:45,146 --> 01:07:46,748 know there was something we 2242 01:07:46,748 --> 01:07:49,351 could see where the money 2243 01:07:49,351 --> 01:07:49,751 might be allocated, so thank 2244 01:07:49,751 --> 01:07:51,751 you. 2245 01:07:52,821 --> 01:07:55,123 >> aisle be happy to share 2246 01:07:55,123 --> 01:07:56,524 with you, tomorrow I'll be 2247 01:07:56,524 --> 01:07:58,627 working on the website. 2248 01:07:58,627 --> 01:07:59,360 >> thank you, having no other 2249 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,163 items being pulled, could I 2250 01:08:01,163 --> 01:08:01,496 have a a motion to approve 2251 01:08:01,496 --> 01:08:02,300 the 2252 01:08:02,300 --> 01:08:02,798 consent agenda? 2253 01:08:02,798 --> 01:08:03,498 >> so moved. 2254 01:08:03,498 --> 01:08:04,332 >> I'll scond. 2255 01:08:04,332 --> 01:08:04,633 >> first and second, can can 2256 01:08:04,633 --> 01:08:06,633 I 2257 01:08:07,335 --> 01:08:08,360 have a roll call, please. 2258 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:08,193 >> councilmember coleman? 2259 01:08:08,193 --> 01:08:09,738 - 2260 01:08:09,738 --> 01:08:10,672 >> yes. 2261 01:08:10,672 --> 01:08:12,400 >> vice mayor addiego? 2262 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:12,974 >> yes. 2263 01:08:12,974 --> 01:08:14,974 >> coupes member nicolas? 2264 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:18,146 >> aye. 2265 01:08:18,146 --> 01:08:18,547 >> cuncilmember nagales? 2266 01:08:18,547 --> 01:08:19,147 >> yes. 2267 01:08:19,147 --> 01:08:19,781 >> and mayor flores? 2268 01:08:19,781 --> 01:08:20,449 >> yes, motion passes. 2269 01:08:20,449 --> 01:08:20,983 >> moving on to 2270 01:08:20,983 --> 01:08:22,317 administrative 2271 01:08:22,317 --> 01:08:23,252 business, item 9 is a report 2272 01:08:23,252 --> 01:08:25,870 regarding the 2024 general 2273 01:08:25,870 --> 01:08:27,487 plan and housing element 2274 01:08:40,235 --> 01:08:42,300 annual progress reports. 2275 01:08:42,300 --> 01:08:42,738 >> good evening, 2276 01:08:42,738 --> 01:08:44,738 councilmembers, billy gross 2277 01:08:47,576 --> 01:08:49,512 with the planning division. 2278 01:08:49,512 --> 01:08:51,347 Myself and stephanie will be 2279 01:08:51,347 --> 01:08:52,748 here for our yearly annual 2280 01:08:52,748 --> 01:08:55,148 progress reports on the 2281 01:08:55,984 --> 01:08:56,384 general plan and housing 2282 01:08:56,384 --> 01:08:58,120 element. 2283 01:08:58,120 --> 01:08:59,288 So I'll go through just a few 2284 01:08:59,288 --> 01:08:59,688 slides that talk about 2285 01:08:59,688 --> 01:09:01,688 actions 2286 01:09:01,891 --> 01:09:03,590 that happened in 2024 for the 2287 01:09:03,590 --> 01:09:04,226 general plan and then 2288 01:09:04,226 --> 01:09:07,226 stephanie will go through the 2289 01:09:08,598 --> 01:09:09,799 housing element for the 2024 2290 01:09:09,799 --> 01:09:10,933 progress. 2291 01:09:10,933 --> 01:09:13,569 As you'll recall, the current 2292 01:09:13,569 --> 01:09:14,737 general pan was adopted in 2293 01:09:14,737 --> 01:09:16,906 2022 and continues to be 2294 01:09:16,906 --> 01:09:17,406 consistent with all state 2295 01:09:17,406 --> 01:09:18,741 requirements. 2296 01:09:18,741 --> 01:09:20,876 There were no amendment ts 2297 01:09:20,876 --> 01:09:23,120 the general plan has were 2298 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:24,647 adopted in 2024. 2299 01:09:24,647 --> 01:09:26,282 This chart shows when each of 2300 01:09:26,282 --> 01:09:26,649 the required elements was 2301 01:09:26,649 --> 01:09:27,884 last 2302 01:09:27,884 --> 01:09:30,284 updated, all of these 2303 01:09:31,354 --> 01:09:33,890 occurring in e ver 2022 or 2304 01:09:33,890 --> 01:09:36,290 2023 when we adopted the 2305 01:09:38,461 --> 01:09:40,330 lindenville specific plan. 2306 01:09:40,330 --> 01:09:41,731 Attachments 1 and 2 to your 2307 01:09:41,731 --> 01:09:44,100 staff report are the detailed 2308 01:09:44,100 --> 01:09:44,834 general plan implementation 2309 01:09:44,834 --> 01:09:47,234 tables showing the current 2310 01:09:48,237 --> 01:09:49,505 status of each of the 764 2311 01:09:49,505 --> 01:09:50,673 policy ins actions within the 2312 01:09:50,673 --> 01:09:52,442 general plan. 2313 01:09:52,442 --> 01:09:54,511 Items that you see that are 2314 01:09:54,511 --> 01:09:54,944 highlighted in yellow 2315 01:09:54,944 --> 01:09:56,813 indicate 2316 01:09:56,813 --> 01:09:57,180 an updated entry from last 2317 01:09:57,180 --> 01:09:58,949 year. 2318 01:09:58,949 --> 01:10:00,817 The majority of the these are 2319 01:10:00,817 --> 01:10:02,219 descriptions of progress in 2320 01:10:02,219 --> 01:10:03,520 2024 in the notes column but 2321 01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,890 there are others that MAY 2322 01:10:06,890 --> 01:10:09,890 indicate a change in status 2323 01:10:09,893 --> 01:10:10,327 or 2324 01:10:10,327 --> 01:10:11,561 timeframe. 2325 01:10:11,561 --> 01:10:14,131 This chart which is also 2326 01:10:14,131 --> 01:10:15,665 included in the staff report 2327 01:10:15,665 --> 01:10:17,665 indicates implementation 2328 01:10:17,768 --> 01:10:18,669 status by element. 2329 01:10:18,669 --> 01:10:20,669 Overall, items cnsidered 2330 01:10:21,437 --> 01:10:23,837 either complete or ongoing 2331 01:10:24,440 --> 01:10:24,841 have increased from 51 to 55 2332 01:10:24,841 --> 01:10:26,760 percent. 2333 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:28,476 Items considered under way 2334 01:10:28,812 --> 01:10:31,181 have increased from 16 to 19 2335 01:10:31,181 --> 01:10:33,160 percent and items with no 2336 01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:33,483 action have decreased from 2337 01:10:33,483 --> 01:10:34,884 33% 2338 01:10:34,884 --> 01:10:36,530 to 26 percent s we are 2339 01:10:36,530 --> 01:10:37,354 continuing to make progress 2340 01:10:37,354 --> 01:10:39,354 in 2341 01:10:41,570 --> 01:10:41,491 all of these actions and 2342 01:10:41,491 --> 01:10:43,360 policies. 2343 01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:44,940 And for the general plan 2344 01:10:44,940 --> 01:10:45,663 progress report, the last 2345 01:10:45,663 --> 01:10:47,298 thing I wanted to highlight 2346 01:10:47,298 --> 01:10:48,699 was the data dashboard. 2347 01:10:48,699 --> 01:10:49,466 This is intended to assist in 2348 01:10:49,466 --> 01:10:50,334 trag tr 2349 01:10:50,334 --> 01:10:51,635 tracking 2350 01:10:51,635 --> 01:10:52,869 implementation progress on 2351 01:10:52,869 --> 01:10:54,238 performance measure that is 2352 01:10:54,238 --> 01:10:54,938 were identified in the 2353 01:10:54,938 --> 01:10:55,305 general 2354 01:10:55,305 --> 01:10:55,973 plan. 2355 01:10:55,973 --> 01:10:56,373 The dashboard has been 2356 01:10:56,373 --> 01:10:58,373 updated 2357 01:10:58,409 --> 01:10:58,875 with the most recent data 2358 01:10:58,875 --> 01:11:00,875 that 2359 01:11:00,944 --> 01:11:01,378 is currently accessible if 2360 01:11:01,378 --> 01:11:03,790 available. 2361 01:11:03,790 --> 01:11:05,116 We have also worked with our 2362 01:11:05,116 --> 01:11:06,283 website consultant team to 2363 01:11:06,283 --> 01:11:07,952 provide documentation on how 2364 01:11:07,952 --> 01:11:09,987 the data for each performance 2365 01:11:09,987 --> 01:11:10,688 measure is obtained and that 2366 01:11:10,688 --> 01:11:11,789 documentation is now 2367 01:11:11,789 --> 01:11:13,324 available 2368 01:11:13,324 --> 01:11:16,661 on the dashboard which can be 2369 01:11:16,661 --> 01:11:19,661 found on the general plan 2370 01:11:20,464 --> 01:11:21,232 website shape ssf.Net under 2371 01:11:21,232 --> 01:11:23,100 measuring progress, with that 2372 01:11:23,100 --> 01:11:24,000 I'm going the hand it over to 2373 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:24,502 stephanie to talk to you 2374 01:11:24,502 --> 01:11:25,436 about 2375 01:11:25,436 --> 01:11:27,836 the housing elements progress 2376 01:11:33,744 --> 01:11:34,446 and I'm happy to answer any 2377 01:11:34,446 --> 01:11:34,812 questions you haver after 2378 01:11:34,812 --> 01:11:35,413 that. 2379 01:11:35,413 --> 01:11:37,413 >> thank you, billy. 2380 01:11:37,949 --> 01:11:38,315 >> good evening, thank you, 2381 01:11:38,315 --> 01:11:40,151 billy. 2382 01:11:40,151 --> 01:11:42,551 Stephanie skangos with the 2383 01:11:43,187 --> 01:11:44,555 planning division. 2384 01:11:44,555 --> 01:11:46,391 As billy mentioned, I will be 2385 01:11:46,391 --> 01:11:47,358 going over the housing 2386 01:11:47,358 --> 01:11:48,359 element 2387 01:11:48,359 --> 01:11:50,359 annual progress report. 2388 01:11:50,628 --> 01:11:52,697 Just to offer a quick little 2389 01:11:52,697 --> 01:11:53,980 recap, what is the husing 2390 01:11:53,980 --> 01:11:54,299 element? 2391 01:11:54,299 --> 01:11:55,934 The housing element is one of 2392 01:11:55,934 --> 01:11:58,269 the 7 state mandated elements 2393 01:11:58,269 --> 01:11:59,404 of the general plan. 2394 01:11:59,404 --> 01:12:01,272 Although unlike the other 2395 01:12:01,272 --> 01:12:04,142 elements of a general plan, 2396 01:12:04,142 --> 01:12:04,876 the housing element must be 2397 01:12:04,876 --> 01:12:06,244 updated by deadlines set by 2398 01:12:06,244 --> 01:12:08,244 the state. 2399 01:12:09,781 --> 01:12:12,216 The t city adopted a new 2400 01:12:12,216 --> 01:12:12,951 housing element in JANUARY of 2401 01:12:12,951 --> 01:12:13,652 2023 and the department of 2402 01:12:13,652 --> 01:12:15,200 housing and community 2403 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:16,588 development or hcd certified 2404 01:12:16,588 --> 01:12:18,230 our housing element in 2405 01:12:18,230 --> 01:12:20,230 NOVEMBER 2023. 2406 01:12:20,910 --> 01:12:21,926 And this new housing element 2407 01:12:21,926 --> 01:12:24,326 covers a planning cycle 2408 01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:28,310 running from JANUARY 31, 2023 2409 01:12:28,567 --> 01:12:30,335 through JANUARY 31, 2031, so 2410 01:12:30,335 --> 01:12:32,335 an 8 year period. 2411 01:12:32,504 --> 01:12:34,339 And again the housing element 2412 01:12:34,339 --> 01:12:35,307 is essentially the blueprint 2413 01:12:35,307 --> 01:12:36,800 for future housing 2414 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,800 development 2415 01:12:38,770 --> 01:12:39,244 within the city ad it 2416 01:12:39,244 --> 01:12:41,480 includes goals, policies and 2417 01:12:41,480 --> 01:12:43,880 programs that will direct 2418 01:12:45,951 --> 01:12:47,951 residential decision-making. 2419 01:12:48,190 --> 01:12:49,621 The housing element -- sorry. 2420 01:12:49,621 --> 01:12:52,210 The housing element process 2421 01:12:52,291 --> 01:12:53,825 begins with the state setting 2422 01:12:53,825 --> 01:12:55,694 a regions regional housing 2423 01:12:55,694 --> 01:12:56,161 needs allocation or rhna 2424 01:12:56,161 --> 01:12:57,830 which 2425 01:12:57,830 --> 01:12:59,164 is the estimated number of 2426 01:12:59,164 --> 01:13:01,100 housing units that will be 2427 01:13:01,100 --> 01:13:03,500 needed over the 8 year 2428 01:13:04,336 --> 01:13:05,938 planning cycle to assist with 2429 01:13:05,938 --> 01:13:08,338 regional growth and trends. 2430 01:13:10,543 --> 01:13:10,910 The 8 year cycle for rhna 2431 01:13:10,910 --> 01:13:12,910 does 2432 01:13:13,313 --> 01:13:15,648 differ slightly by about 6 2433 01:13:15,648 --> 01:13:18,351 months t rhna cycle run from 2434 01:13:18,351 --> 01:13:18,784 JUNE 30, 2022 through 2435 01:13:18,784 --> 01:13:19,352 DECEMBER 2436 01:13:19,352 --> 01:13:21,187 15, 2030. 2437 01:13:21,187 --> 01:13:22,754 It's important to note with 2438 01:13:22,754 --> 01:13:25,624 rhna that these units don't 2439 01:13:25,624 --> 01:13:27,225 need to be constructed during 2440 01:13:27,225 --> 01:13:29,610 the time period, but the city 2441 01:13:29,610 --> 01:13:31,197 is required to ensure that it 2442 01:13:31,197 --> 01:13:33,699 is possible to build these 2443 01:13:33,699 --> 01:13:34,133 units trough appropriate 2444 01:13:34,133 --> 01:13:35,735 zoning. 2445 01:13:35,735 --> 01:13:38,735 New units are counted towards 2446 01:13:38,738 --> 01:13:39,905 rhna at the time of building 2447 01:13:39,905 --> 01:13:42,800 permit issuance and this 2448 01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,430 applies for all new 2449 01:13:44,430 --> 01:13:44,777 residential unit tpes, 2450 01:13:44,777 --> 01:13:46,777 single 2451 01:13:47,790 --> 01:13:48,681 family dwellings, accessory 2452 01:13:48,681 --> 01:13:50,681 dwelling units, duplexes, 2453 01:13:52,752 --> 01:13:54,454 duplexes and our larger 2454 01:13:54,454 --> 01:13:56,454 multifamily buildings. 2455 01:13:58,824 --> 01:14:01,394 The current rhna cycle sixth, 2456 01:14:01,394 --> 01:14:04,764 we were -- sorry, we were 2457 01:14:04,764 --> 01:14:05,298 tasked with our 2458 01:14:05,298 --> 01:14:07,298 responsibility 2459 01:14:10,570 --> 01:14:12,605 of 3956 units over the 8 year 2460 01:14:12,605 --> 01:14:14,605 period. 2461 01:14:14,974 --> 01:14:15,442 The rhna allocation is 2462 01:14:15,442 --> 01:14:17,442 further 2463 01:14:18,878 --> 01:14:20,980 divided into income levels. 2464 01:14:20,980 --> 01:14:22,516 There are four category, very 2465 01:14:22,516 --> 01:14:23,750 low, low, mod wrath rat and 2466 01:14:23,750 --> 01:14:24,718 above moderate. 2467 01:14:24,718 --> 01:14:27,118 These income categories are 2468 01:14:27,220 --> 01:14:29,756 based on the area median 2469 01:14:29,756 --> 01:14:33,660 income that is set by hcd for 2470 01:14:33,660 --> 01:14:35,660 each county. 2471 01:14:36,229 --> 01:14:39,229 The 2024ami for san mateo 2472 01:14:39,666 --> 01:14:40,567 county is 186 thousand 600 2473 01:14:40,567 --> 01:14:42,567 dollars. 2474 01:14:44,238 --> 01:14:46,638 Very low category is 2475 01:14:48,408 --> 01:14:51,408 30-50%ami, low is between 2476 01:14:52,879 --> 01:14:54,181 50-80%ami, moderate falls 2477 01:14:54,181 --> 01:14:56,283 between 80-120%ami and above 2478 01:14:56,283 --> 01:14:58,683 moderate is more tan 100% 2479 01:14:59,219 --> 01:15:02,819 ami, so you can see the 2480 01:15:02,923 --> 01:15:04,992 allotment for the total rhna 2481 01:15:04,992 --> 01:15:07,392 numbers of 3956, the majority 2482 01:15:07,528 --> 01:15:11,128 of which are uder the above 2483 01:15:14,235 --> 01:15:15,869 moderate category. 2484 01:15:15,869 --> 01:15:16,904 For 2024, the city is 2485 01:15:16,904 --> 01:15:18,904 reporting building permit 2486 01:15:20,700 --> 01:15:20,341 issuance for a total of 62 2487 01:15:20,341 --> 01:15:21,842 new 2488 01:15:21,842 --> 01:15:23,842 residential units. 2489 01:15:24,844 --> 01:15:26,480 This includes 6 sing m family 2490 01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:28,480 homes, 6 small multifamily 2491 01:15:29,483 --> 01:15:32,483 units which are units located 2492 01:15:32,786 --> 01:15:33,988 within 2-4 unit structures, 2493 01:15:33,988 --> 01:15:35,988 and 50adu's. 2494 01:15:36,791 --> 01:15:37,691 Again, new units that receive 2495 01:15:37,691 --> 01:15:39,691 building permit issuance 2496 01:15:40,662 --> 01:15:42,963 during the reported year are 2497 01:15:42,963 --> 01:15:44,399 what is counted towards the 2498 01:15:44,399 --> 01:15:46,399 current rhna allocation. 2499 01:15:47,268 --> 01:15:50,471 In addition to the new units 2500 01:15:50,471 --> 01:15:51,873 issued, a tet of 255 new 2501 01:15:51,873 --> 01:15:52,807 residential units were 2502 01:15:52,807 --> 01:15:55,109 finagled or received a 2503 01:15:55,109 --> 01:15:57,509 certificate of occupancy in 2504 01:15:59,781 --> 01:16:01,781 the 2024 reporting year. 2505 01:16:01,882 --> 01:16:02,584 The city also approved 2506 01:16:02,584 --> 01:16:02,951 planning entitlements for 2507 01:16:02,951 --> 01:16:03,718 five 2508 01:16:03,718 --> 01:16:04,953 new residential units during 2509 01:16:04,953 --> 01:16:06,953 the reporting year. 2510 01:16:08,690 --> 01:16:11,292 And the detailers for the 2511 01:16:11,292 --> 01:16:12,894 building permit issuance and 2512 01:16:12,894 --> 01:16:14,894 entitlements approved and 2513 01:16:15,230 --> 01:16:16,631 certificate of compliance 2514 01:16:16,631 --> 01:16:18,700 completion are found in 2515 01:16:18,700 --> 01:16:21,100 attachment 3 and 4 of the 2516 01:16:25,273 --> 01:16:26,874 staff report under table a-2. 2517 01:16:26,874 --> 01:16:27,576 So, this is the second year 2518 01:16:27,576 --> 01:16:29,576 of 2519 01:16:32,581 --> 01:16:33,148 the rhna cycle 6 eighty year 2520 01:16:33,148 --> 01:16:33,648 reporting cycle, 2521 01:16:33,648 --> 01:16:34,583 cumulatively, 2522 01:16:34,583 --> 01:16:37,452 the city is dewed building 2523 01:16:37,452 --> 01:16:38,620 perms for a total of 4.5% of 2524 01:16:38,620 --> 01:16:41,620 the expected housing units so 2525 01:16:41,989 --> 01:16:44,989 that's a total of 177 units 2526 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,280 out of the 3956 units that 2527 01:16:50,332 --> 01:16:52,732 were allocated through rhna. 2528 01:16:53,735 --> 01:16:55,470 This is broken down into the 2529 01:16:55,470 --> 01:16:57,470 four income categories. 2530 01:16:57,539 --> 01:16:59,408 The city for above moderate 2531 01:16:59,408 --> 01:17:01,310 housing category, the city 2532 01:17:01,310 --> 01:17:01,743 issued building permits for 2533 01:17:01,743 --> 01:17:03,743 36 2534 01:17:04,279 --> 01:17:05,140 units or 1.9% of the rhna 2535 01:17:05,140 --> 01:17:06,181 allocation. 2536 01:17:06,181 --> 01:17:06,849 Moderate housing category, 2537 01:17:06,849 --> 01:17:08,500 the 2538 01:17:08,500 --> 01:17:08,450 city's issued building 2539 01:17:08,450 --> 01:17:10,450 permits 2540 01:17:11,987 --> 01:17:12,454 for 46 units or 6.4% of the 2541 01:17:12,454 --> 01:17:13,855 allocation. 2542 01:17:13,855 --> 01:17:15,924 For the low housing category, 2543 01:17:15,924 --> 01:17:16,357 the city has issued a 2544 01:17:16,357 --> 01:17:18,357 building 2545 01:17:20,295 --> 01:17:22,198 permit for 68 units or 13.5% 2546 01:17:22,198 --> 01:17:24,266 of the rhna allocation, the 2547 01:17:24,266 --> 01:17:25,667 very low housing category t 2548 01:17:25,667 --> 01:17:28,204 city has issued a building 2549 01:17:28,204 --> 01:17:28,704 permit for 27 units or 3.1% 2550 01:17:28,704 --> 01:17:30,704 of 2551 01:17:33,909 --> 01:17:35,344 the rhna allocation. 2552 01:17:35,344 --> 01:17:37,744 Thsz for the 2023 reporting 2553 01:17:38,281 --> 01:17:40,681 year ad then the 2024 2554 01:17:42,151 --> 01:17:43,986 reporting year, cumulatively. 2555 01:17:43,986 --> 01:17:45,188 In addition to reporting 2556 01:17:45,188 --> 01:17:47,588 housing production to date 2557 01:17:49,358 --> 01:17:51,427 during the reporting year, we 2558 01:17:51,427 --> 01:17:53,329 also provide information on 2559 01:17:53,329 --> 01:17:54,496 our program implementation 2560 01:17:54,496 --> 01:17:56,232 status, as mentioned, a large 2561 01:17:56,232 --> 01:17:58,632 component of the city's 2562 01:17:59,234 --> 01:18:01,700 housing element are goals, 2563 01:18:01,700 --> 01:18:01,971 policies and products that 2564 01:18:01,971 --> 01:18:03,372 direct decision making, most 2565 01:18:03,372 --> 01:18:05,508 of these programs are 2566 01:18:05,508 --> 01:18:06,676 implemented and monitored on 2567 01:18:06,676 --> 01:18:07,143 an ongoing basis, however 2568 01:18:07,143 --> 01:18:08,770 some 2569 01:18:08,770 --> 01:18:09,612 programs have deliverable 2570 01:18:09,612 --> 01:18:12,120 dates throughout the housing 2571 01:18:14,116 --> 01:18:16,116 element cycle. 2572 01:18:16,953 --> 01:18:18,421 For the 2024 reporting year, 2573 01:18:18,421 --> 01:18:20,230 7 2574 01:18:20,230 --> 01:18:20,890 programs were completed. 2575 01:18:20,890 --> 01:18:22,559 These were all completed 2576 01:18:22,559 --> 01:18:24,394 through the adoption of a 2577 01:18:24,394 --> 01:18:24,728 zoning text amendment that 2578 01:18:24,728 --> 01:18:26,396 the 2579 01:18:26,396 --> 01:18:28,364 council approved and adopted 2580 01:18:28,364 --> 01:18:30,364 last JUNE. 2581 01:18:30,700 --> 01:18:31,668 The zoning text amendment 2582 01:18:31,668 --> 01:18:33,668 included amended definitions 2583 01:18:34,637 --> 01:18:35,539 of certain uses such as 2584 01:18:35,539 --> 01:18:36,500 emergency shelter, addition 2585 01:18:36,500 --> 01:18:38,500 of 2586 01:18:38,774 --> 01:18:39,876 some new use classifications 2587 01:18:39,876 --> 01:18:41,377 including low barrier 2588 01:18:41,377 --> 01:18:42,145 navigation center and 2589 01:18:42,145 --> 01:18:44,145 permanent supportive housing 2590 01:18:46,383 --> 01:18:47,751 as well as updates to the 2591 01:18:47,751 --> 01:18:48,918 development uses allowed 2592 01:18:48,918 --> 01:18:50,918 within different zoning 2593 01:18:53,790 --> 01:18:55,626 districts per state mandate. 2594 01:18:55,626 --> 01:18:56,125 And that concludes staff's 2595 01:18:56,125 --> 01:18:57,260 presentation. 2596 01:18:57,260 --> 01:18:58,695 Both myself and billy are 2597 01:18:58,695 --> 01:18:59,830 available for any questions. 2598 01:18:59,830 --> 01:19:00,197 >> thank you, stephanie, 2599 01:19:00,197 --> 01:19:01,964 thank 2600 01:19:01,964 --> 01:19:03,600 you, billy. 2601 01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:04,670 I'll take questions from my 2602 01:19:04,670 --> 01:19:06,670 colleagues. 2603 01:19:06,669 --> 01:19:08,505 I have 2604 01:19:08,505 --> 01:19:09,673 >> I have a lot of questions 2605 01:19:09,673 --> 01:19:11,774 so I should probably go first 2606 01:19:11,774 --> 01:19:12,443 which is not a surprise to my 2607 01:19:12,443 --> 01:19:14,443 colleagues. 2608 01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,850 I'm going the help set up the 2609 01:19:19,850 --> 01:19:21,252 questions, so I think we have 2610 01:19:21,252 --> 01:19:23,387 to kind of paint the picture 2611 01:19:23,387 --> 01:19:25,220 here in terms of help 2612 01:19:25,220 --> 01:19:27,422 explaining the rhna process. 2613 01:19:27,558 --> 01:19:29,426 So, if we do a good faith 2614 01:19:29,426 --> 01:19:32,429 effort in trying to reach our 2615 01:19:32,429 --> 01:19:35,699 rhna goals and we don't hit 2616 01:19:35,699 --> 01:19:37,934 those numbers, what are the 2617 01:19:37,934 --> 01:19:38,603 ramifications of us not doing 2618 01:19:38,603 --> 01:19:40,603 that? 2619 01:19:40,638 --> 01:19:42,638 >> great question. 2620 01:19:43,574 --> 01:19:45,209 So, technically there is no 2621 01:19:45,209 --> 01:19:48,209 penalty for not meeting the 2622 01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,448 rhna numbers but there are 2623 01:19:51,448 --> 01:19:52,383 certain provisions sb35 that 2624 01:19:52,383 --> 01:19:54,383 MAY take effect. 2625 01:19:54,484 --> 01:19:54,819 If a certain percentage of 2626 01:19:54,819 --> 01:19:56,819 our 2627 01:19:58,223 --> 01:20:00,291 rhna allocation is not met, 2628 01:20:00,291 --> 01:20:02,360 midway through the reporting 2629 01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,429 or the rhna cycle. 2630 01:20:04,429 --> 01:20:04,762 And those would include -- 2631 01:20:04,762 --> 01:20:06,762 and 2632 01:20:07,131 --> 01:20:07,899 I MAY call up tony rozzi for 2633 01:20:07,899 --> 01:20:09,899 help here. 2634 01:20:11,135 --> 01:20:14,135 But I believe they include 2635 01:20:15,807 --> 01:20:17,174 changing the process of 2636 01:20:17,174 --> 01:20:17,876 residential development 2637 01:20:17,876 --> 01:20:19,777 review 2638 01:20:19,777 --> 01:20:21,179 from discretionary to 2639 01:20:21,179 --> 01:20:23,148 ministerial if a certain 2640 01:20:23,148 --> 01:20:23,481 amount of affordable units 2641 01:20:23,481 --> 01:20:25,481 are 2642 01:20:25,750 --> 01:20:26,684 included in the overall 2643 01:20:26,684 --> 01:20:27,152 proposed residential 2644 01:20:27,152 --> 01:20:28,586 development. 2645 01:20:28,586 --> 01:20:30,221 >> so, in other words, if we 2646 01:20:30,221 --> 01:20:32,791 don't hit our numbers, a 2647 01:20:32,791 --> 01:20:34,192 developer can come in and 2648 01:20:34,192 --> 01:20:37,192 pretty much submit a project 2649 01:20:37,429 --> 01:20:38,797 and we would have to approve 2650 01:20:38,797 --> 01:20:40,799 it administrative, tony, do 2651 01:20:40,799 --> 01:20:43,401 you want to -- I really want 2652 01:20:43,401 --> 01:20:43,868 to be able to -- we 2653 01:20:43,868 --> 01:20:44,569 understand 2654 01:20:44,569 --> 01:20:45,360 these terms but I want to 2655 01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:47,360 make 2656 01:20:47,806 --> 01:20:48,173 sure the audience understands 2657 01:20:48,173 --> 01:20:50,740 this. 2658 01:20:50,740 --> 01:20:52,740 >> yeah. 2659 01:20:52,377 --> 01:20:52,911 Tony rozzi, deputy director 2660 01:20:52,911 --> 01:20:53,244 in 2661 01:20:53,244 --> 01:20:55,244 ecd. 2662 01:20:55,247 --> 01:20:56,314 I'm going to pull up this 2663 01:20:56,314 --> 01:20:57,816 slide because ithink it's 2664 01:20:57,816 --> 01:20:59,418 probably the best way to talk 2665 01:20:59,418 --> 01:21:01,418 through this. 2666 01:21:02,620 --> 01:21:03,722 And sb35 is not new, it 2667 01:21:03,722 --> 01:21:04,890 applied to us in the last 2668 01:21:04,890 --> 01:21:06,240 cycle. 2669 01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:07,893 At the end of year four, 2670 01:21:07,893 --> 01:21:08,293 midway through the rhna 2671 01:21:08,293 --> 01:21:10,196 cycle, 2672 01:21:10,196 --> 01:21:13,196 that 8 year period, they want 2673 01:21:13,264 --> 01:21:13,599 to know that you're on track 2674 01:21:13,599 --> 01:21:14,767 -- 2675 01:21:14,767 --> 01:21:17,669 >> hang on, she can't hear 2676 01:21:17,669 --> 01:21:19,669 you. 2677 01:21:25,144 --> 01:21:26,779 >> sb35 applies and really 2678 01:21:26,779 --> 01:21:29,470 holds cities accountable for 2679 01:21:29,470 --> 01:21:31,784 how they're doing as far as 2680 01:21:31,784 --> 01:21:34,553 progress on their rhna cycle. 2681 01:21:34,553 --> 01:21:37,523 After year 4, w report back, 2682 01:21:37,523 --> 01:21:39,124 you know, have you met 50% of 2683 01:21:39,124 --> 01:21:39,492 your expected above moderate 2684 01:21:39,492 --> 01:21:41,260 units. 2685 01:21:41,260 --> 01:21:44,496 So, in this case, we have a 2686 01:21:44,496 --> 01:21:46,132 lot of above moderate units 2687 01:21:46,132 --> 01:21:47,650 assigned, almost over 1800, 2688 01:21:47,650 --> 01:21:49,650 so 2689 01:21:51,569 --> 01:21:54,600 we would want to see at least 2690 01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:56,342 900 units permitted by the 2691 01:21:56,342 --> 01:21:57,377 fifth year in our rhna cycle. 2692 01:21:57,377 --> 01:21:58,444 Separately, they want to know 2693 01:21:58,444 --> 01:22:00,847 how are you doing with your 2694 01:22:00,847 --> 01:22:02,849 low and very low units, so 2695 01:22:02,849 --> 01:22:04,917 that will be our very low and 2696 01:22:04,917 --> 01:22:07,317 our low, that's almost 1400 2697 01:22:07,787 --> 01:22:08,121 units so half of that would 2698 01:22:08,121 --> 01:22:09,422 be 2699 01:22:09,422 --> 01:22:09,755 700 units half way through 2700 01:22:09,755 --> 01:22:11,624 the 2701 01:22:11,624 --> 01:22:13,225 rhna cycle. 2702 01:22:13,225 --> 01:22:13,693 If you are on track and 2703 01:22:13,693 --> 01:22:15,693 you've 2704 01:22:16,896 --> 01:22:19,432 met both of those numbers, 2705 01:22:19,432 --> 01:22:21,432 sb35 doesn't apply. 2706 01:22:21,734 --> 01:22:23,368 It is not out of the question 2707 01:22:23,368 --> 01:22:25,672 that we might have a stronger 2708 01:22:25,672 --> 01:22:28,674 next cuple of years but it 2709 01:22:28,674 --> 01:22:30,276 really depends on the market, 2710 01:22:30,276 --> 01:22:32,112 tariffs, interest rates, all 2711 01:22:32,112 --> 01:22:32,512 of those things affect 2712 01:22:32,512 --> 01:22:33,513 whether 2713 01:22:33,513 --> 01:22:35,849 a developer pulls a permit or 2714 01:22:35,849 --> 01:22:37,717 not but that culd be a 2715 01:22:37,717 --> 01:22:38,686 trigger for sb35, like 2716 01:22:38,686 --> 01:22:41,860 stephanie said, allows a 2717 01:22:42,522 --> 01:22:44,758 project to be proposed that 2718 01:22:44,758 --> 01:22:46,760 has no discretionary review, 2719 01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:47,627 no ceqa, they do have to use 2720 01:22:47,627 --> 01:22:49,728 prevailing wage and they do 2721 01:22:49,728 --> 01:22:52,128 have to provide affordable 2722 01:22:54,701 --> 01:22:56,937 units, so it's not a free -- 2723 01:22:56,937 --> 01:22:57,637 freebie for a developer but 2724 01:22:57,637 --> 01:22:58,738 it 2725 01:22:58,738 --> 01:22:59,706 limits a developer's 2726 01:22:59,706 --> 01:23:00,874 discretionary review. 2727 01:23:00,874 --> 01:23:02,709 Does that make sense? 2728 01:23:02,709 --> 01:23:03,430 >> yeah, that makes sense to 2729 01:23:03,430 --> 01:23:05,430 me. 2730 01:23:05,445 --> 01:23:05,979 So, let me dig a little 2731 01:23:05,979 --> 01:23:06,413 deeper 2732 01:23:06,413 --> 01:23:08,413 here. 2733 01:23:15,154 --> 01:23:16,790 So, when you say city report 2734 01:23:16,790 --> 01:23:17,157 building permits, you say 2735 01:23:17,157 --> 01:23:17,924 city 2736 01:23:17,924 --> 01:23:20,324 reported building permit and 2737 01:23:21,929 --> 01:23:23,764 is then you say planning 2738 01:23:23,764 --> 01:23:24,231 entitlements and I don't 2739 01:23:24,231 --> 01:23:26,231 think 2740 01:23:28,102 --> 01:23:28,468 the audience understands that 2741 01:23:28,468 --> 01:23:30,700 here. 2742 01:23:30,700 --> 01:23:31,371 For 62 residential units, 2743 01:23:31,371 --> 01:23:31,705 those are the numbers that 2744 01:23:31,705 --> 01:23:33,273 are 2745 01:23:33,273 --> 01:23:33,674 counted towards our rhna 2746 01:23:33,674 --> 01:23:35,674 numbers. 2747 01:23:35,808 --> 01:23:37,444 But when you say planning 2748 01:23:37,444 --> 01:23:39,444 entitlements, those numbers 2749 01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:41,820 are different. 2750 01:23:41,820 --> 01:23:42,383 Can yu briefly explain the 2751 01:23:42,383 --> 01:23:44,783 difference between those two. 2752 01:23:46,220 --> 01:23:46,754 >> yeah, I can and they can 2753 01:23:46,754 --> 01:23:48,754 -- 2754 01:23:49,523 --> 01:23:50,690 in the life cycle o a 2755 01:23:50,690 --> 01:23:51,580 project, entitlements are 2756 01:23:51,580 --> 01:23:52,760 your 2757 01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:53,694 first stage, you go through 2758 01:23:53,694 --> 01:23:55,295 the planning commission, 2759 01:23:55,295 --> 01:23:56,998 perhaps city council and you 2760 01:23:56,998 --> 01:23:59,660 get entitled for the ability 2761 01:23:59,660 --> 01:24:01,168 to now build those units and 2762 01:24:01,168 --> 01:24:02,103 you've met your ceqa 2763 01:24:02,103 --> 01:24:04,503 obligations, you've met our 2764 01:24:04,638 --> 01:24:05,106 design standards and we have 2765 01:24:05,106 --> 01:24:06,174 a 2766 01:24:06,174 --> 01:24:08,574 very streamlined process for 2767 01:24:10,244 --> 01:24:11,412 these projects. 2768 01:24:11,412 --> 01:24:13,180 That's entitlement, now you 2769 01:24:13,180 --> 01:24:13,914 take those pretty 2770 01:24:13,914 --> 01:24:14,415 architectural drawings and 2771 01:24:14,415 --> 01:24:15,550 you 2772 01:24:15,550 --> 01:24:17,151 turn them into construction 2773 01:24:17,151 --> 01:24:20,151 drawings and that could take 2774 01:24:21,422 --> 01:24:22,991 as quick as 3-6 months, 18 2775 01:24:22,991 --> 01:24:24,158 months, you have up to three 2776 01:24:24,158 --> 01:24:24,491 years from your entitlement 2777 01:24:24,491 --> 01:24:26,227 to 2778 01:24:26,227 --> 01:24:26,628 get submitted for a building 2779 01:24:26,628 --> 01:24:28,290 permit. 2780 01:24:28,290 --> 01:24:28,463 Then you submit for a 2781 01:24:28,463 --> 01:24:29,530 building 2782 01:24:29,530 --> 01:24:31,165 permit, you go back and forth 2783 01:24:31,165 --> 01:24:32,467 with our plan check review, 2784 01:24:32,467 --> 01:24:34,536 with fire review, with 2785 01:24:34,536 --> 01:24:36,536 planning review. 2786 01:24:37,104 --> 01:24:39,274 When we issue that building 2787 01:24:39,274 --> 01:24:42,210 permit n that whatever year 2788 01:24:42,210 --> 01:24:44,812 that is which might be three 2789 01:24:44,812 --> 01:24:46,214 years after they're entitled, 2790 01:24:46,214 --> 01:24:47,782 we finally get credit in rhna. 2791 01:24:47,782 --> 01:24:49,718 Now the state wants us to 2792 01:24:49,718 --> 01:24:51,586 report, how did you do on 2793 01:24:51,586 --> 01:24:53,355 entitlements, do we we no if 2794 01:24:53,355 --> 01:24:55,290 you have stuff on the 2795 01:24:55,290 --> 01:24:56,758 pipeline, how are you doing 2796 01:24:56,758 --> 01:24:58,560 with issuing permits and now 2797 01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:00,194 can you tell us if you have 2798 01:25:00,194 --> 01:25:01,496 finagled those projects, are 2799 01:25:01,496 --> 01:25:04,650 they now down and people 2800 01:25:04,650 --> 01:25:04,499 living in them so that's the 2801 01:25:04,499 --> 01:25:06,368 reporting. 2802 01:25:06,368 --> 01:25:06,802 >> thank you for that 2803 01:25:06,802 --> 01:25:08,236 overview. 2804 01:25:08,236 --> 01:25:10,739 Here's what I'm looking at 2805 01:25:10,739 --> 01:25:12,741 these numbers, and tony, I 2806 01:25:12,741 --> 01:25:13,141 appreciate like the midway 2807 01:25:13,141 --> 01:25:13,775 report. 2808 01:25:13,775 --> 01:25:14,420 I don't know if yes 2809 01:25:14,420 --> 01:25:14,376 f wez 2810 01:25:14,376 --> 01:25:16,144 ear 2811 01:25:16,144 --> 01:25:17,790 going the hit that based on 2812 01:25:17,790 --> 01:25:19,514 what you're seeing right now. 2813 01:25:19,514 --> 01:25:19,914 That is the concern I'm 2814 01:25:19,914 --> 01:25:21,383 having. 2815 01:25:21,383 --> 01:25:22,518 And so did you want to jump 2816 01:25:22,518 --> 01:25:24,518 in? 2817 01:25:25,587 --> 01:25:26,788 >> I share your concern. 2818 01:25:26,788 --> 01:25:28,357 I will say tere are some 2819 01:25:28,357 --> 01:25:29,558 project that is are in 2820 01:25:29,558 --> 01:25:31,958 building permit review ready 2821 01:25:32,194 --> 01:25:35,794 to be issued that would tick 2822 01:25:35,864 --> 01:25:37,700 off our low and very low 2823 01:25:37,700 --> 01:25:39,768 inclusionary and very many 2824 01:25:39,768 --> 01:25:40,936 above moderate but it doesn't 2825 01:25:40,936 --> 01:25:42,936 feel super promising. 2826 01:25:44,406 --> 01:25:45,574 >> I'm looking behind me as 2827 01:25:45,574 --> 01:25:47,800 the puc projects that would 2828 01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:47,676 ramp up our numbers, right. 2829 01:25:47,676 --> 01:25:48,900 >> right. 2830 01:25:48,900 --> 01:25:50,900 Er 2831 01:25:51,146 --> 01:25:51,514 >> so, let me dig deeper, 2832 01:25:51,514 --> 01:25:53,382 when 2833 01:25:53,382 --> 01:25:54,617 I was looking at the 2834 01:25:54,617 --> 01:25:56,180 spreadsheet here, there were 2835 01:25:56,180 --> 01:25:58,860 some akronbacker ron anymore 2836 01:25:58,860 --> 01:26:01,686 which is lu, which means land 2837 01:26:02,324 --> 01:26:05,610 use, and it says 3.9 in terms 2838 01:26:05,610 --> 01:26:06,695 of the spreadsheet, that felt 2839 01:26:06,695 --> 01:26:07,430 with crating affordable and 2840 01:26:07,430 --> 01:26:09,699 workforce housing, I went 2841 01:26:09,699 --> 01:26:10,166 through all the data points 2842 01:26:10,166 --> 01:26:12,166 here. 2843 01:26:12,567 --> 01:26:14,102 They were talking about 2844 01:26:14,102 --> 01:26:15,537 working with the -- 2845 01:26:15,537 --> 01:26:17,707 potentially working with the 2846 01:26:17,707 --> 01:26:18,141 school district about 2847 01:26:18,141 --> 01:26:19,275 building 2848 01:26:19,275 --> 01:26:19,575 affordable housing sites and 2849 01:26:19,575 --> 01:26:20,643 I 2850 01:26:20,643 --> 01:26:21,644 know the school district's 2851 01:26:21,644 --> 01:26:25,244 been looking at this and I 2852 01:26:25,448 --> 01:26:26,615 know we do have the city 2853 01:26:26,615 --> 01:26:28,615 council's sdaol district 2854 01:26:28,684 --> 01:26:30,520 liaison committee and I know 2855 01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:31,521 it's o one of the priorities 2856 01:26:31,521 --> 01:26:33,590 in turnover the school 2857 01:26:33,590 --> 01:26:36,910 district but they do have 2858 01:26:36,910 --> 01:26:37,460 sites in terms of fox ridge 2859 01:26:37,460 --> 01:26:39,362 and sarah vista that 2860 01:26:39,362 --> 01:26:41,130 potentially could be housing 2861 01:26:41,130 --> 01:26:43,299 sites, so I'm looking at my 2862 01:26:43,299 --> 01:26:44,900 colleagues who serve on tat 2863 01:26:44,900 --> 01:26:46,302 subcommittee to really see 2864 01:26:46,302 --> 01:26:47,737 what the school district's 2865 01:26:47,737 --> 01:26:49,439 plan on that is and I know 2866 01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:51,140 again one of the things they 2867 01:26:51,140 --> 01:26:52,542 mentioned and they have to 2868 01:26:52,542 --> 01:26:53,709 look at it but honestly 2869 01:26:53,709 --> 01:26:54,644 they've been saying they 2870 01:26:54,644 --> 01:26:56,279 support some sort of 2871 01:26:56,279 --> 01:26:58,648 development there but they're 2872 01:26:58,648 --> 01:27:00,283 dragging their feet. 2873 01:27:00,283 --> 01:27:01,584 And if we're going to build 2874 01:27:01,584 --> 01:27:02,619 affordable housing and 2875 01:27:02,619 --> 01:27:03,887 workforce housing, I want to 2876 01:27:03,887 --> 01:27:04,721 see a partnership with the 2877 01:27:04,721 --> 01:27:05,154 school district so I'm 2878 01:27:05,154 --> 01:27:06,122 looking 2879 01:27:06,122 --> 01:27:06,590 at my colleagues over there 2880 01:27:06,590 --> 01:27:07,957 in 2881 01:27:07,957 --> 01:27:08,358 termser of moving that 2882 01:27:08,358 --> 01:27:10,358 forward 2883 01:27:10,427 --> 01:27:11,894 and I think jefferson high 2884 01:27:11,894 --> 01:27:13,530 school district is a perfect 2885 01:27:13,530 --> 01:27:13,897 example of how you build 2886 01:27:13,897 --> 01:27:15,897 those 2887 01:27:16,132 --> 01:27:17,534 unit, it's such a successful 2888 01:27:17,534 --> 01:27:18,702 model that other school 2889 01:27:18,702 --> 01:27:20,804 districts ares following that 2890 01:27:20,804 --> 01:27:21,972 model, it's a nationally 2891 01:27:21,972 --> 01:27:22,306 recognized program in terms 2892 01:27:22,306 --> 01:27:23,140 of 2893 01:27:23,140 --> 01:27:24,541 what they're doing so I want 2894 01:27:24,541 --> 01:27:26,909 to lesh from them in terms of 2895 01:27:26,909 --> 01:27:27,277 what we can do forward. 2896 01:27:27,277 --> 01:27:29,277 Okay. 2897 01:27:29,913 --> 01:27:30,581 There was another one here, 2898 01:27:30,581 --> 01:27:32,581 it 2899 01:27:33,784 --> 01:27:35,485 says land use 2.1 which is 2900 01:27:35,485 --> 01:27:35,886 prioritized development near 2901 01:27:35,886 --> 01:27:37,886 transit. 2902 01:27:37,987 --> 01:27:39,156 And we during our housing 2903 01:27:39,156 --> 01:27:40,758 element cnversation, we did 2904 01:27:40,758 --> 01:27:42,393 talk about development aong 2905 01:27:42,393 --> 01:27:42,793 the el camino corridor 2906 01:27:42,793 --> 01:27:44,793 because 2907 01:27:44,894 --> 01:27:46,263 we have seen the development 2908 01:27:46,263 --> 01:27:48,198 on the caltrain corridor, but 2909 01:27:48,198 --> 01:27:49,199 this is kind of the next kind 2910 01:27:49,199 --> 01:27:50,767 of section where we have to 2911 01:27:50,767 --> 01:27:52,636 look at in terms of 2912 01:27:52,636 --> 01:27:54,238 development because when you 2913 01:27:54,238 --> 01:27:56,573 build along transit, you get 2914 01:27:56,573 --> 01:27:56,974 people who start using 2915 01:27:56,974 --> 01:27:58,309 transit 2916 01:27:58,309 --> 01:28:00,644 and I know other cities are 2917 01:28:00,644 --> 01:28:02,179 looking along the el camino 2918 01:28:02,179 --> 01:28:03,681 corridor in termer of 2919 01:28:03,681 --> 01:28:05,282 development so as we mover 2920 01:28:05,282 --> 01:28:06,500 forward in terms of 2921 01:28:06,500 --> 01:28:07,450 development, these are going 2922 01:28:07,450 --> 01:28:07,818 to be the sections we're 2923 01:28:07,818 --> 01:28:09,553 going 2924 01:28:09,553 --> 01:28:11,188 to be seeing and you can see 2925 01:28:11,188 --> 01:28:14,788 it now in terms of where 2926 01:28:15,590 --> 01:28:15,426 across from the san bruno 2927 01:28:15,426 --> 01:28:16,694 bart 2928 01:28:16,694 --> 01:28:18,694 station, tere's already 2929 01:28:19,363 --> 01:28:21,763 development and the century 2930 01:28:21,899 --> 01:28:23,300 plaza, that's going to be 2931 01:28:23,300 --> 01:28:23,668 housing, that's along the 2932 01:28:23,668 --> 01:28:25,369 bart 2933 01:28:25,369 --> 01:28:26,137 corridor along the samtrans 2934 01:28:26,137 --> 01:28:27,504 core dhao,'s something we're 2935 01:28:27,504 --> 01:28:28,840 going to be looking at in 2936 01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:30,840 terms of development. 2937 01:28:31,209 --> 01:28:33,578 And there was another thing 2938 01:28:33,578 --> 01:28:36,130 that says crt which I don't 2939 01:28:36,130 --> 01:28:38,182 know what crt stood fr. 2940 01:28:38,182 --> 01:28:40,182 >> creation. 2941 01:28:41,219 --> 01:28:42,754 >> okay, it said 3.1, review 2942 01:28:42,754 --> 01:28:44,889 of cmmercial and housing 2943 01:28:44,889 --> 01:28:46,324 linkage fees. 2944 01:28:46,324 --> 01:28:47,859 So, that was supposed to be 2945 01:28:47,859 --> 01:28:49,930 helping us in terms of 2946 01:28:49,930 --> 01:28:50,494 building development but for 2947 01:28:50,494 --> 01:28:52,330 me, the pipeline is starting 2948 01:28:52,330 --> 01:28:53,731 to slow down and there was a 2949 01:28:53,731 --> 01:28:54,799 initial conversation at or 2950 01:28:54,799 --> 01:28:55,266 housing subcommittee the see 2951 01:28:55,266 --> 01:28:56,301 what with 2952 01:28:56,301 --> 01:28:57,368 f we can do in 2953 01:28:57,368 --> 01:28:59,304 terms of speeding up the 2954 01:28:59,304 --> 01:28:59,638 process and I know waun one 2955 01:28:59,638 --> 01:29:01,638 of 2956 01:29:02,540 --> 01:29:03,308 the things, we did hire a 2957 01:29:03,308 --> 01:29:05,308 strategic economic consultant 2958 01:29:06,440 --> 01:29:06,944 to look at that in terms of 2959 01:29:06,944 --> 01:29:07,345 housing and commercial 2960 01:29:07,345 --> 01:29:07,712 linkage 2961 01:29:07,712 --> 01:29:09,712 fees. 2962 01:29:10,480 --> 01:29:11,416 I look forward to have that 2963 01:29:11,416 --> 01:29:14,416 conversation in terms of what 2964 01:29:14,453 --> 01:29:15,687 we want to d with that 2965 01:29:15,687 --> 01:29:17,687 particular fee. 2966 01:29:19,257 --> 01:29:20,191 So, with that, aisle leave 2967 01:29:20,191 --> 01:29:20,625 that in terms of the 2968 01:29:20,625 --> 01:29:22,227 questions. 2969 01:29:22,227 --> 01:29:22,828 >> thank you, councilmember, 2970 01:29:22,828 --> 01:29:24,329 any other questions? 2971 01:29:24,329 --> 01:29:25,300 >> I do have a question. 2972 01:29:25,300 --> 01:29:25,330 >> go ahead. 2973 01:29:25,330 --> 01:29:26,498 Er 2974 01:29:26,498 --> 01:29:26,864 >> so, how many housing 2975 01:29:26,864 --> 01:29:28,567 units 2976 01:29:28,567 --> 01:29:31,690 are in the pipeline and by 2977 01:29:31,690 --> 01:29:32,471 that, I mean entitled but not 2978 01:29:32,471 --> 01:29:36,710 yet permitted do, we have a 2979 01:29:37,209 --> 01:29:39,609 number that's the total? 2980 01:29:43,348 --> 01:29:45,517 >> so, for the 2024 reporting 2981 01:29:45,517 --> 01:29:45,951 year, five units were 2982 01:29:45,951 --> 01:29:47,951 approved 2983 01:29:48,754 --> 01:29:49,321 in the planning process have 2984 01:29:49,321 --> 01:29:49,822 received approved 2985 01:29:49,822 --> 01:29:51,557 entitlements. 2986 01:29:51,557 --> 01:29:54,590 We do have approved projects 2987 01:29:54,590 --> 01:29:56,459 from the previous years 2988 01:29:59,970 --> 01:30:01,970 including 7 south linden, 410 2989 01:30:01,167 --> 01:30:03,567 noor, 1477 huntington, all of 2990 01:30:07,473 --> 01:30:08,641 those have not pulled a 2991 01:30:08,641 --> 01:30:10,275 building permit yet, a couple 2992 01:30:10,275 --> 01:30:12,344 of them are on track to 2993 01:30:12,344 --> 01:30:13,312 possibly get their building 2994 01:30:13,312 --> 01:30:15,381 permits issued this next year 2995 01:30:15,381 --> 01:30:17,383 or during this year so we 2996 01:30:17,383 --> 01:30:17,750 would include them in the 2997 01:30:17,750 --> 01:30:18,818 2025 2998 01:30:18,818 --> 01:30:20,553 reporting and that's when we 2999 01:30:20,553 --> 01:30:21,187 would get the credit towards 3000 01:30:21,187 --> 01:30:23,187 rhna. 3001 01:30:24,690 --> 01:30:27,560 >> what's the number of those 3002 01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:28,961 units? 3003 01:30:28,961 --> 01:30:30,663 >> roughly 1500 units. 3004 01:30:30,663 --> 01:30:32,663 >> thank you. 3005 01:30:33,166 --> 01:30:35,734 And then I know the rate 3006 01:30:35,734 --> 01:30:36,669 limiting factor is mostly the 3007 01:30:36,669 --> 01:30:38,871 financing markets, so to the 3008 01:30:38,871 --> 01:30:39,872 best of your ability, if you 3009 01:30:39,872 --> 01:30:41,506 can characterize where we are 3010 01:30:41,506 --> 01:30:44,777 many the market right now, do 3011 01:30:44,777 --> 01:30:47,646 you see it improving, not 3012 01:30:47,646 --> 01:30:49,482 improving? 3013 01:30:49,482 --> 01:30:50,183 >> nell selander, economic 3014 01:30:50,183 --> 01:30:50,917 and 3015 01:30:50,917 --> 01:30:52,840 community development 3016 01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:54,484 director, what we're hearing 3017 01:30:56,989 --> 01:30:57,624 right now from some of the 3018 01:30:57,624 --> 01:30:58,560 larger developmental 3019 01:30:58,560 --> 01:30:59,759 directors 3020 01:30:59,759 --> 01:31:00,193 who are pulling their 3021 01:31:00,193 --> 01:31:02,193 building 3022 01:31:02,762 --> 01:31:04,631 permit and is sites now but 3023 01:31:04,631 --> 01:31:05,565 not yet pulled a building 3024 01:31:05,565 --> 01:31:07,166 permit for vertical 3025 01:31:07,166 --> 01:31:09,166 construction, it's not 3026 01:31:10,503 --> 01:31:12,903 interest rates, it's the 3027 01:31:14,107 --> 01:31:16,176 expected tariff wars and in 3028 01:31:16,176 --> 01:31:18,110 particular wood from canada, 3029 01:31:18,110 --> 01:31:19,879 so we even hve a project 3030 01:31:19,879 --> 01:31:21,130 that's not about to pull a 3031 01:31:21,130 --> 01:31:21,481 building permit but is doipg 3032 01:31:21,481 --> 01:31:23,830 a 3033 01:31:23,830 --> 01:31:26,830 lot of cost estimating and 3034 01:31:26,420 --> 01:31:28,488 that was contemplated as two 3035 01:31:28,488 --> 01:31:30,123 floors of concrete, so two 3036 01:31:30,123 --> 01:31:31,692 podium floors with four to 3037 01:31:31,692 --> 01:31:33,930 five stories of wood frame 3038 01:31:33,930 --> 01:31:33,994 construction above it and 3039 01:31:33,994 --> 01:31:35,994 they're now considering 3040 01:31:37,331 --> 01:31:38,698 pricing the whole building in 3041 01:31:38,698 --> 01:31:41,980 concrete because -- which 3042 01:31:41,501 --> 01:31:42,935 would be unheard of, three or 3043 01:31:42,935 --> 01:31:45,935 four or five years ago, 3044 01:31:46,673 --> 01:31:48,740 because of the volatility in 3045 01:31:48,740 --> 01:31:50,770 the timber markets because so 3046 01:31:50,770 --> 01:31:52,445 much of it comes from canada 3047 01:31:52,445 --> 01:31:54,748 and also because of fire 3048 01:31:54,748 --> 01:31:56,500 insurance and fire risk, 3049 01:31:56,500 --> 01:31:57,518 concrete buildings are less 3050 01:31:57,518 --> 01:32:00,120 risky in a a fire. 3051 01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:00,521 So, we MAY end up with 3052 01:32:00,521 --> 01:32:01,889 totally 3053 01:32:01,889 --> 01:32:04,289 different types of buildings 3054 01:32:04,558 --> 01:32:06,961 getting built in this sort of 3055 01:32:06,961 --> 01:32:08,863 economic cycle with the way 3056 01:32:08,863 --> 01:32:10,397 tariffs are and fire risk. 3057 01:32:10,397 --> 01:32:12,320 >> thank you, that's vry 3058 01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:13,200 interesting information. 3059 01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:15,200 >> thank you. 3060 01:32:15,369 --> 01:32:17,369 Any other questions? 3061 01:32:18,805 --> 01:32:20,908 >> there's one bright spot in 3062 01:32:20,908 --> 01:32:22,510 this, this table a, the 3063 01:32:22,510 --> 01:32:23,210 housing development 3064 01:32:23,210 --> 01:32:23,611 application submitted, 3065 01:32:23,611 --> 01:32:24,612 there's 3066 01:32:24,612 --> 01:32:26,914 four different projects and 3067 01:32:26,914 --> 01:32:30,651 what I noticed was that in a 3068 01:32:30,651 --> 01:32:33,521 couple of them are mid size, 3069 01:32:33,521 --> 01:32:36,290 one is 64 units, one is 70, 3070 01:32:36,290 --> 01:32:38,250 and those are all to be owner 3071 01:32:38,250 --> 01:32:40,194 occupied, is that correct? 3072 01:32:40,194 --> 01:32:40,661 So that would be 500 3073 01:32:40,661 --> 01:32:41,595 railroad, 3074 01:32:41,595 --> 01:32:43,595 the gateway project? 3075 01:32:44,565 --> 01:32:46,565 >> yes, the railroad 3076 01:32:46,834 --> 01:32:47,534 townhomes, and there's 3077 01:32:47,534 --> 01:32:49,534 another 3078 01:32:50,704 --> 01:32:52,704 project, 170, 180 south 3079 01:32:54,208 --> 01:32:54,775 spruce, approximately 64, 65 3080 01:32:54,775 --> 01:32:55,944 row houses. 3081 01:32:55,944 --> 01:32:57,779 >> I understand that's 3082 01:32:57,779 --> 01:32:59,181 happening in the south bay 3083 01:32:59,181 --> 01:33:00,782 where some developers are 3084 01:33:00,782 --> 01:33:02,183 looking at previously 3085 01:33:02,183 --> 01:33:03,318 approved 3086 01:33:03,318 --> 01:33:04,919 entitlements for multifamily 3087 01:33:04,919 --> 01:33:07,919 with greater height but it 3088 01:33:08,223 --> 01:33:08,690 looks like there might be 3089 01:33:08,690 --> 01:33:10,240 some 3090 01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:11,359 financial advantages maybe to 3091 01:33:11,359 --> 01:33:13,562 townhouses and it would be 3092 01:33:13,562 --> 01:33:14,495 wonderful if we had something 3093 01:33:14,495 --> 01:33:16,895 available for sale where 3094 01:33:17,264 --> 01:33:17,832 people could come into south 3095 01:33:17,832 --> 01:33:19,832 san francisco, iv 3096 01:33:20,769 --> 01:33:21,936 ets, -- 3097 01:33:21,936 --> 01:33:22,804 invest, have a stake in the 3098 01:33:22,804 --> 01:33:23,738 action and stay here for a a 3099 01:33:23,738 --> 01:33:25,400 period of time. 3100 01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:26,508 One of the great 3101 01:33:26,508 --> 01:33:27,174 disappointments I had with 3102 01:33:27,174 --> 01:33:28,376 the 3103 01:33:28,376 --> 01:33:29,977 housing rental market, when I 3104 01:33:29,977 --> 01:33:30,312 hear the turn over rate can 3105 01:33:30,312 --> 01:33:32,800 be 3106 01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:33,482 as high as 30% annually, so 3107 01:33:33,482 --> 01:33:34,883 you have people that come and 3108 01:33:34,883 --> 01:33:35,250 visit us for a couple of 3109 01:33:35,250 --> 01:33:36,752 years 3110 01:33:36,752 --> 01:33:37,119 and then they go some place 3111 01:33:37,119 --> 01:33:38,186 else. 3112 01:33:38,186 --> 01:33:38,854 That's not a healthy 3113 01:33:38,854 --> 01:33:40,755 situation 3114 01:33:40,755 --> 01:33:41,889 for a community, so if this 3115 01:33:41,889 --> 01:33:43,292 becomes a trend, I think 3116 01:33:43,292 --> 01:33:45,127 there's some potential really 3117 01:33:45,127 --> 01:33:48,727 great news here where we have 3118 01:33:48,863 --> 01:33:49,964 properties for sale. 3119 01:33:49,964 --> 01:33:51,964 >> great. 3120 01:33:52,670 --> 01:33:53,468 So, this is why rhna's 3121 01:33:53,468 --> 01:33:56,468 important, so every city has 3122 01:33:56,805 --> 01:33:57,973 to do rhna, is that right? 3123 01:33:57,973 --> 01:33:59,341 Someone? 3124 01:33:59,341 --> 01:33:59,674 >> yeah, every jurisdiction 3125 01:33:59,674 --> 01:34:01,674 in 3126 01:34:02,344 --> 01:34:03,440 the state of california is 3127 01:34:03,440 --> 01:34:03,545 allotted a reap na 3128 01:34:03,545 --> 01:34:05,179 number. 3129 01:34:05,179 --> 01:34:05,514 >> and then what happens if 3130 01:34:05,514 --> 01:34:07,514 we 3131 01:34:10,286 --> 01:34:13,286 don't abide by the 3956 units? 3132 01:34:14,690 --> 01:34:17,900 >> again, as tony mentioned, 3133 01:34:17,993 --> 01:34:19,694 there is no penalty per se, 3134 01:34:19,694 --> 01:34:22,531 part of the rhna process is 3135 01:34:22,531 --> 01:34:24,600 making sure that a 3136 01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:25,967 jurisdiction's zoning ad 3137 01:34:25,967 --> 01:34:27,269 development standards can 3138 01:34:27,269 --> 01:34:28,770 allow for the construction of 3139 01:34:28,770 --> 01:34:30,172 that number. 3140 01:34:30,172 --> 01:34:31,339 >> let rerephrase that, 3141 01:34:31,339 --> 01:34:33,739 legally, what happens when 3142 01:34:35,440 --> 01:34:37,313 we're not there, what is our 3143 01:34:37,313 --> 01:34:38,447 state attorney general -- 3144 01:34:38,447 --> 01:34:39,214 what 3145 01:34:39,214 --> 01:34:42,151 has he traditional has been 3146 01:34:42,151 --> 01:34:42,818 known to have done to some 3147 01:34:42,818 --> 01:34:44,818 cities? 3148 01:34:46,522 --> 01:34:49,659 >> I'll defer to tony on that. 3149 01:34:49,659 --> 01:34:50,126 >> I will say that in cases 3150 01:34:50,126 --> 01:34:51,961 of 3151 01:34:51,961 --> 01:34:52,428 jurisdictions that are sort 3152 01:34:52,428 --> 01:34:53,596 of 3153 01:34:53,596 --> 01:34:53,963 blatantly bad actor, they 3154 01:34:53,963 --> 01:34:55,431 have 3155 01:34:55,431 --> 01:34:56,799 gotten letters from the state 3156 01:34:56,799 --> 01:34:59,199 attorney letting them know 3157 01:34:59,703 --> 01:35:01,304 that they are at risk of 3158 01:35:01,304 --> 01:35:02,938 losing funding for roads, 3159 01:35:02,938 --> 01:35:04,140 funding for things that are 3160 01:35:04,140 --> 01:35:04,607 not housing related that a 3161 01:35:04,607 --> 01:35:06,607 lot 3162 01:35:08,177 --> 01:35:10,577 of cities rely on. 3163 01:35:10,947 --> 01:35:12,815 We have not always met our 3164 01:35:12,815 --> 01:35:14,684 income levels in rhna but we 3165 01:35:14,684 --> 01:35:15,840 have often met the lump 3166 01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:16,953 number 3167 01:35:16,953 --> 01:35:20,590 and we did in the last cycle. 3168 01:35:20,590 --> 01:35:23,293 It's just very, very hard to 3169 01:35:23,293 --> 01:35:24,928 get and fund the level of 3170 01:35:24,928 --> 01:35:26,162 affordable, very low and low 3171 01:35:26,162 --> 01:35:28,264 income unit that is are 3172 01:35:28,264 --> 01:35:30,990 projected on most cities and 3173 01:35:30,990 --> 01:35:31,268 that's where sb35 sort of 3174 01:35:31,268 --> 01:35:33,470 creates a carrot for 3175 01:35:33,470 --> 01:35:35,772 developers and frankly a 3176 01:35:35,772 --> 01:35:36,473 carrot for cities to be a 3177 01:35:36,473 --> 01:35:37,407 good 3178 01:35:37,407 --> 01:35:38,575 actor and streamline. 3179 01:35:38,575 --> 01:35:39,876 >> great. 3180 01:35:39,876 --> 01:35:42,145 And as mayor and I know that 3181 01:35:42,145 --> 01:35:44,614 my colleagues share this as 3182 01:35:44,614 --> 01:35:46,490 well, this is important. 3183 01:35:46,490 --> 01:35:46,351 This iss what we get elected 3184 01:35:46,351 --> 01:35:46,683 o 3185 01:35:46,683 --> 01:35:47,884 do. 3186 01:35:47,884 --> 01:35:49,953 When I hear individuals say 3187 01:35:49,953 --> 01:35:50,419 you all are hiding behind 3188 01:35:50,419 --> 01:35:52,419 your 3189 01:35:53,456 --> 01:35:54,391 rhna numbers or using that as 3190 01:35:54,391 --> 01:35:54,758 a justification to build, 3191 01:35:54,758 --> 01:35:56,758 this 3192 01:35:57,628 --> 01:35:58,995 is happening all across 3193 01:35:58,995 --> 01:36:00,597 california and in cities that 3194 01:36:00,597 --> 01:36:01,532 perhaps don't even have space 3195 01:36:01,532 --> 01:36:02,699 to build, right. 3196 01:36:02,699 --> 01:36:04,734 They still have a a rhna 3197 01:36:04,734 --> 01:36:05,936 number to meet and areap na 3198 01:36:05,936 --> 01:36:07,936 allocation. 3199 01:36:09,172 --> 01:36:11,475 Tony, can you describe what 3200 01:36:11,475 --> 01:36:13,875 the builders' remedy is? 3201 01:36:15,579 --> 01:36:16,980 >> the builders' remedy is a 3202 01:36:16,980 --> 01:36:19,980 trigger lw that goes into 3203 01:36:21,518 --> 01:36:23,153 effect if you do not have a 3204 01:36:23,153 --> 01:36:24,788 compliant and certified 3205 01:36:24,788 --> 01:36:25,889 housing element, so, you can 3206 01:36:25,889 --> 01:36:26,223 adopt a housing element but 3207 01:36:26,223 --> 01:36:28,223 it 3208 01:36:30,361 --> 01:36:32,363 can be grossly failed to meet 3209 01:36:32,363 --> 01:36:33,631 the standards that hcd is 3210 01:36:33,631 --> 01:36:35,499 looking at. 3211 01:36:35,499 --> 01:36:36,434 Hcd has to certify your 3212 01:36:36,434 --> 01:36:36,767 housing element, until they 3213 01:36:36,767 --> 01:36:38,302 do 3214 01:36:38,302 --> 01:36:40,137 and once the housing element 3215 01:36:40,137 --> 01:36:42,440 cycle has started and this is 3216 01:36:42,440 --> 01:36:43,373 affected a lot of 3217 01:36:43,373 --> 01:36:44,976 jurisdictions including us, 3218 01:36:44,976 --> 01:36:45,443 there's a window where 3219 01:36:45,443 --> 01:36:47,443 someone 3220 01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:49,213 can come in on essentially 3221 01:36:49,213 --> 01:36:49,747 any 3222 01:36:49,747 --> 01:36:50,810 parcel anywhere. 3223 01:36:50,810 --> 01:36:51,382 Er 3224 01:36:51,382 --> 01:36:53,382 >> any neighborhood. 3225 01:36:53,718 --> 01:36:55,386 >> and propose whatever they 3226 01:36:55,386 --> 01:36:56,754 want with streamlining and a 3227 01:36:56,754 --> 01:36:58,754 lot of clearance. 3228 01:36:59,900 --> 01:36:59,424 It doesn't happen often but 3229 01:36:59,424 --> 01:37:00,924 it 3230 01:37:00,924 --> 01:37:03,261 is certainly -- there are 3231 01:37:03,261 --> 01:37:04,194 examples in berkeley, santa 3232 01:37:04,194 --> 01:37:05,960 monica, southern california 3233 01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:05,462 where these projects have 3234 01:37:05,462 --> 01:37:05,797 been 3235 01:37:05,797 --> 01:37:06,931 pro 3236 01:37:06,931 --> 01:37:08,566 ep proposed and once you 3237 01:37:08,566 --> 01:37:10,868 propose it, you then have a 3238 01:37:10,868 --> 01:37:11,336 right to that project in 3239 01:37:11,336 --> 01:37:13,336 perpetuity. 3240 01:37:13,404 --> 01:37:13,838 That cn be frightening for a 3241 01:37:13,838 --> 01:37:15,573 community. 3242 01:37:15,573 --> 01:37:17,573 >> great. 3243 01:37:18,109 --> 01:37:18,877 This has been as a result of 3244 01:37:18,877 --> 01:37:20,845 additional housing, right, a 3245 01:37:20,845 --> 01:37:22,800 lot of folks say we're in a 3246 01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:23,714 housing crisis. 3247 01:37:23,714 --> 01:37:25,116 rhna is supposed to address 3248 01:37:25,116 --> 01:37:26,984 this but I also wanted to 3249 01:37:26,984 --> 01:37:28,353 point out that rhna is not 3250 01:37:28,353 --> 01:37:30,154 just building or approving 3251 01:37:30,154 --> 01:37:31,156 projects to build but the 3252 01:37:31,156 --> 01:37:33,556 other implementations of the 3253 01:37:33,892 --> 01:37:35,293 program such as you all 3254 01:37:35,293 --> 01:37:36,494 highlighted, the displacement 3255 01:37:36,494 --> 01:37:36,828 protections, the services, 3256 01:37:36,828 --> 01:37:38,229 the 3257 01:37:38,229 --> 01:37:40,532 energy efficiency, these are 3258 01:37:40,532 --> 01:37:41,199 also meant to preserve as 3259 01:37:41,199 --> 01:37:42,834 well 3260 01:37:42,834 --> 01:37:44,202 as sustain and promote 3261 01:37:44,202 --> 01:37:44,536 additional housing, so when 3262 01:37:44,536 --> 01:37:45,870 we 3263 01:37:45,870 --> 01:37:46,204 talk about -- I don't like 3264 01:37:46,204 --> 01:37:47,439 how 3265 01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:48,607 south san francisco is 3266 01:37:48,607 --> 01:37:49,730 changing, we don't really 3267 01:37:49,730 --> 01:37:50,642 have 3268 01:37:50,642 --> 01:37:51,877 a choice, folks, we need to 3269 01:37:51,877 --> 01:37:52,910 address housing. 3270 01:37:52,910 --> 01:37:53,278 Housing I important, we 3271 01:37:53,278 --> 01:37:55,278 could 3272 01:37:56,348 --> 01:37:57,516 certainly make it so that 3273 01:37:57,516 --> 01:37:59,884 there is affordablability in 3274 01:37:59,884 --> 01:38:01,180 south san francisco but these 3275 01:38:01,180 --> 01:38:02,887 are new implementations that 3276 01:38:02,887 --> 01:38:05,357 are like I said not just in 3277 01:38:05,357 --> 01:38:07,757 south san francisco but 3278 01:38:10,829 --> 01:38:11,697 anywhere you go I the state. 3279 01:38:11,697 --> 01:38:13,164 With that, do you have 3280 01:38:13,164 --> 01:38:13,499 something else? 3281 01:38:13,499 --> 01:38:14,566 >>. 3282 01:38:14,566 --> 01:38:16,234 F MR. Mayor, iped to 3283 01:38:16,234 --> 01:38:17,769 remind the audience, we just 3284 01:38:17,769 --> 01:38:18,736 recently passed an ordinance 3285 01:38:18,736 --> 01:38:19,104 that codified that if you 3286 01:38:19,104 --> 01:38:20,720 live 3287 01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:22,410 and work in south san 3288 01:38:22,410 --> 01:38:23,642 francisco that you would have 3289 01:38:23,642 --> 01:38:25,277 preferences, so I want to 3290 01:38:25,277 --> 01:38:27,145 remind folks, and also that 3291 01:38:27,145 --> 01:38:29,282 3800 number in terms of 3292 01:38:29,282 --> 01:38:31,682 residents, number of units, 3293 01:38:31,851 --> 01:38:33,485 they did an audit on that and 3294 01:38:33,485 --> 01:38:35,321 we apparently -- everyone 3295 01:38:35,321 --> 01:38:36,722 according to what their audit 3296 01:38:36,722 --> 01:38:37,890 said was understood counted, 3297 01:38:37,890 --> 01:38:38,357 so our numbers could have 3298 01:38:38,357 --> 01:38:40,357 been 3299 01:38:40,426 --> 01:38:42,762 a lot higher than that than 3300 01:38:42,762 --> 01:38:44,363 what we have and I serve on 3301 01:38:44,363 --> 01:38:45,964 abag which is the association 3302 01:38:45,964 --> 01:38:46,298 of bay aea governments and 3303 01:38:46,298 --> 01:38:48,298 we 3304 01:38:48,300 --> 01:38:48,768 are talking about the 3305 01:38:48,768 --> 01:38:50,768 numbers, 3306 01:38:51,237 --> 01:38:53,105 the rhna numbers, so I will 3307 01:38:53,105 --> 01:38:53,939 have a big part in terms of 3308 01:38:53,939 --> 01:38:56,420 what those numbers are going 3309 01:38:56,420 --> 01:38:58,578 to be for the region and so 3310 01:38:58,578 --> 01:39:00,345 the more we can do now t 3311 01:39:00,345 --> 01:39:01,814 better it is for us in terms 3312 01:39:01,814 --> 01:39:03,416 of what our rhna numbers ae 3313 01:39:03,416 --> 01:39:03,783 going to be for the next 3314 01:39:03,783 --> 01:39:05,783 cycle. 3315 01:39:07,787 --> 01:39:09,455 >> great, thank you, 3316 01:39:09,455 --> 01:39:09,889 councilmember, for that 3317 01:39:09,889 --> 01:39:10,623 addition. 3318 01:39:10,623 --> 01:39:11,357 This is a report only so no 3319 01:39:11,357 --> 01:39:11,891 action taken but do we have 3320 01:39:11,891 --> 01:39:13,793 public comments? 3321 01:39:13,793 --> 01:39:15,794 >> we have oe public 3322 01:39:15,794 --> 01:39:17,794 comment, 3323 01:39:22,340 --> 01:39:24,340 fianola? 3324 01:39:25,804 --> 01:39:27,804 >> good evening again, 3325 01:39:27,874 --> 01:39:29,874 councilmembers. 3326 01:39:31,244 --> 01:39:33,644 The regional housing needs 3327 01:39:33,780 --> 01:39:34,180 assessment numbers mean 3328 01:39:34,180 --> 01:39:36,180 nothing. 3329 01:39:36,215 --> 01:39:38,651 You should all know that. 3330 01:39:38,651 --> 01:39:41,651 It is surprising you don't 3331 01:39:43,590 --> 01:39:45,590 know this. 3332 01:39:47,930 --> 01:39:47,761 Who are you building equity 3333 01:39:47,761 --> 01:39:49,761 for? 3334 01:39:50,997 --> 01:39:54,597 All the tax credits from the 3335 01:39:56,350 --> 01:39:58,350 state. 3336 01:39:58,939 --> 01:39:59,306 For "affordable" housing 3337 01:39:59,306 --> 01:40:01,306 units 3338 01:40:03,911 --> 01:40:05,780 that after sometime the deed 3339 01:40:05,780 --> 01:40:06,713 restrictions go away. 3340 01:40:06,713 --> 01:40:08,314 They're no longer affordable. 3341 01:40:08,314 --> 01:40:10,714 Then who owns them. 3342 01:40:10,983 --> 01:40:11,317 Who are you building equity 3343 01:40:11,317 --> 01:40:13,317 for? 3344 01:40:13,787 --> 01:40:15,189 You are not building equity 3345 01:40:15,189 --> 01:40:17,189 for regular foils. 3346 01:40:18,580 --> 01:40:19,459 You 3347 01:40:19,459 --> 01:40:20,828 -- folks. 3348 01:40:20,828 --> 01:40:22,730 You're strapping everybody to 3349 01:40:22,730 --> 01:40:23,630 be debt slaves because you 3350 01:40:23,630 --> 01:40:23,897 are 3351 01:40:23,897 --> 01:40:26,897 borrowing on the strength of 3352 01:40:27,368 --> 01:40:29,203 us, the taxpayers, and we are 3353 01:40:29,203 --> 01:40:32,203 paying those tax credits, yu 3354 01:40:32,706 --> 01:40:33,440 do not need to build regional 3355 01:40:33,440 --> 01:40:33,774 housing assessment numbers 3356 01:40:33,774 --> 01:40:35,142 but 3357 01:40:35,142 --> 01:40:36,677 yes, we need house, housing 3358 01:40:36,677 --> 01:40:38,812 for sale that people can buy 3359 01:40:38,812 --> 01:40:39,146 and build equity in for 3360 01:40:39,146 --> 01:40:39,304 th 3361 01:40:39,304 --> 01:40:41,810 els 3362 01:40:41,810 --> 01:40:42,215 and is their fmly tos pass on 3363 01:40:42,215 --> 01:40:44,215 into the future. 3364 01:40:44,984 --> 01:40:46,653 Who are you building equity 3365 01:40:46,653 --> 01:40:47,121 for? 3366 01:40:47,121 --> 01:40:48,489 Yourselves. 3367 01:40:48,489 --> 01:40:50,591 Because those are the people 3368 01:40:50,591 --> 01:40:53,591 that come storming in here 3369 01:40:54,161 --> 01:40:55,496 when it's time for elections, 3370 01:40:55,496 --> 01:40:57,398 it's very interesting. 3371 01:40:57,398 --> 01:40:58,799 So, you'll get the votes. 3372 01:40:58,799 --> 01:41:00,434 But what about the people 3373 01:41:00,434 --> 01:41:02,303 you're supposed to represent 3374 01:41:02,303 --> 01:41:02,803 that vote in this 3375 01:41:02,803 --> 01:41:04,372 constituency. 3376 01:41:04,372 --> 01:41:06,507 You don't care about them. 3377 01:41:06,507 --> 01:41:07,441 You only care about using a 3378 01:41:07,441 --> 01:41:09,841 word that doesn't mean 3379 01:41:10,311 --> 01:41:12,246 anything because the word 3380 01:41:12,246 --> 01:41:12,579 affordable, everybody needs 3381 01:41:12,579 --> 01:41:14,579 to 3382 01:41:14,981 --> 01:41:17,981 know one unit of affordable 3383 01:41:18,152 --> 01:41:21,255 housing costs at least -- oh, 3384 01:41:21,255 --> 01:41:21,956 not including the recent 3385 01:41:21,956 --> 01:41:23,956 surge 3386 01:41:24,292 --> 01:41:27,292 in prices, 20% more to build 3387 01:41:27,296 --> 01:41:29,597 an affordable housing unit, 3388 01:41:29,597 --> 01:41:30,933 then.It does, a regular 3389 01:41:30,933 --> 01:41:32,734 house. 3390 01:41:32,734 --> 01:41:34,734 20% more than. 3391 01:41:35,336 --> 01:41:36,971 It is far -- it is much, much 3392 01:41:36,971 --> 01:41:37,439 more money to build 3393 01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:38,607 affordable 3394 01:41:38,607 --> 01:41:40,607 housing units. 3395 01:41:41,900 --> 01:41:41,442 The word affordable is the 3396 01:41:41,442 --> 01:41:42,910 big 3397 01:41:42,910 --> 01:41:44,679 cash cow that you're all 3398 01:41:44,679 --> 01:41:48,279 relying on that people do not 3399 01:41:48,450 --> 01:41:49,217 realize, it is unaffordable, 3400 01:41:49,217 --> 01:41:51,617 completely unaffordable to be 3401 01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:54,320 strapping the taxpayers with 3402 01:41:54,623 --> 01:41:57,623 the cost of building these 3403 01:41:58,260 --> 01:42:00,494 units when you should be 3404 01:42:00,494 --> 01:42:01,229 building for families and 3405 01:42:01,229 --> 01:42:02,310 people that they can build 3406 01:42:02,310 --> 01:42:03,965 equity in to pass on to their 3407 01:42:03,965 --> 01:42:05,367 families into the future. 3408 01:42:05,367 --> 01:42:06,300 It is shameful, it is 3409 01:42:06,300 --> 01:42:08,436 disgraceful that each of you 3410 01:42:08,436 --> 01:42:08,804 sit there and ride a wave 3411 01:42:08,804 --> 01:42:10,705 just 3412 01:42:10,705 --> 01:42:11,105 because of a word, words have 3413 01:42:11,105 --> 01:42:13,105 meaning. 3414 01:42:13,107 --> 01:42:16,378 Why don't you tell the people 3415 01:42:16,378 --> 01:42:18,313 what it means. 3416 01:42:18,313 --> 01:42:20,148 Be honest. 3417 01:42:20,148 --> 01:42:20,482 Where's your decency, all of 3418 01:42:20,482 --> 01:42:22,482 you. 3419 01:42:23,485 --> 01:42:25,485 Thank you. 3420 01:42:25,853 --> 01:42:28,323 >> any other comments from my 3421 01:42:28,323 --> 01:42:28,690 colleagues? 3422 01:42:28,690 --> 01:42:29,458 Okay. 3423 01:42:29,458 --> 01:42:31,458 Thank you. 3424 01:42:31,994 --> 01:42:33,661 >> we do need you to take 3425 01:42:33,661 --> 01:42:35,964 action to accept the general 3426 01:42:35,964 --> 01:42:38,167 plan and housing element and 3427 01:42:38,167 --> 01:42:39,768 annual progress reports and 3428 01:42:39,768 --> 01:42:40,535 authorize transmittal to the 3429 01:42:40,535 --> 01:42:41,971 california governor's office 3430 01:42:41,971 --> 01:42:44,730 of land use and climate 3431 01:42:44,730 --> 01:42:44,406 innovation and the cal torn 3432 01:42:44,406 --> 01:42:45,407 ya 3433 01:42:45,407 --> 01:42:46,410 department of housing and 3434 01:42:46,410 --> 01:42:47,810 community development. 3435 01:42:47,810 --> 01:42:48,744 >> aisle make that motion. 3436 01:42:48,744 --> 01:42:49,612 >> I would second that. 3437 01:42:49,612 --> 01:42:51,612 >> first and second. 3438 01:42:52,814 --> 01:42:53,282 Can I have a roll call, 3439 01:42:53,282 --> 01:42:53,982 please. 3440 01:42:53,982 --> 01:42:55,383 >> councilmember nagales? 3441 01:42:55,383 --> 01:42:56,752 >> yes. 3442 01:42:56,752 --> 01:42:57,486 >> vice mayor addiego? 3443 01:42:57,486 --> 01:42:57,820 >> yes. 3444 01:42:57,820 --> 01:42:58,621 Er 3445 01:42:58,621 --> 01:43:00,621 >> mayor flores? 3446 01:43:03,192 --> 01:43:03,893 >> yes. 3447 01:43:03,893 --> 01:43:05,494 >> councilmember coleman? 3448 01:43:05,494 --> 01:43:06,562 >> yes. 3449 01:43:06,562 --> 01:43:08,562 >> councilmember nicolas. 3450 01:43:08,731 --> 01:43:09,599 >> item 10 is a report regard 3451 01:43:09,599 --> 01:43:11,300 ago resolution approving 3452 01:43:11,300 --> 01:43:12,902 program guidelines and is 3453 01:43:12,902 --> 01:43:15,704 request for interest for the 3454 01:43:15,704 --> 01:43:17,373 launch local vie cant retail 3455 01:43:17,373 --> 01:43:19,373 activation pilot program. 3456 01:43:19,442 --> 01:43:21,842 10a is the resolution. 3457 01:43:22,311 --> 01:43:24,311 >> welcome, MS. Donner. 3458 01:43:34,724 --> 01:43:36,724 >> good evening. 3459 01:43:36,993 --> 01:43:38,610 >> good evening, mayor, vice 3460 01:43:38,610 --> 01:43:38,427 mayor, councilmembers, my 3461 01:43:38,427 --> 01:43:39,695 name 3462 01:43:39,695 --> 01:43:40,697 is kate tea donner, 3463 01:43:40,697 --> 01:43:42,980 management 3464 01:43:42,980 --> 01:43:42,432 analyst with the community 3465 01:43:42,432 --> 01:43:43,650 and 3466 01:43:43,650 --> 01:43:43,800 economic development 3467 01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:45,601 department, I'm pleased to 3468 01:43:45,601 --> 01:43:47,203 present to you the launch 3469 01:43:47,203 --> 01:43:47,671 local vacant retail 3470 01:43:47,671 --> 01:43:48,671 activation 3471 01:43:48,671 --> 01:43:51,710 pilot program, a creative 3472 01:43:51,574 --> 01:43:55,174 niche yat I ever designed to 3473 01:43:56,212 --> 01:43:56,980 revitalize vacant store front 3474 01:43:56,980 --> 01:43:57,681 ins south san francisco while 3475 01:43:57,681 --> 01:43:58,148 supporting emerging local 3476 01:43:58,148 --> 01:43:58,914 businesses. 3477 01:43:58,914 --> 01:44:00,160 Note the powerpoint published 3478 01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:01,651 in the agenda packet is not 3479 01:44:01,651 --> 01:44:03,286 the most updated version. 3480 01:44:03,286 --> 01:44:04,587 This presentation includes a 3481 01:44:04,587 --> 01:44:06,122 few minor enhancements and 3482 01:44:06,122 --> 01:44:07,157 printed copies of the updated 3483 01:44:07,157 --> 01:44:10,157 slides are available in the 3484 01:44:11,128 --> 01:44:11,862 back room. 3485 01:44:11,862 --> 01:44:12,196 Tonight staff recommends it 3486 01:44:12,196 --> 01:44:14,630 is 3487 01:44:14,630 --> 01:44:15,164 city council adopt a 3488 01:44:15,164 --> 01:44:17,367 resolution approving both the 3489 01:44:17,367 --> 01:44:18,969 program guideline and is the 3490 01:44:18,969 --> 01:44:20,837 request for interest or rfi 3491 01:44:20,837 --> 01:44:22,500 for the launch local program. 3492 01:44:22,500 --> 01:44:22,339 This approval will allow us 3493 01:44:22,339 --> 01:44:23,640 to 3494 01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:25,640 mover forward with 3495 01:44:26,843 --> 01:44:28,440 implementation and tenant 3496 01:44:28,440 --> 01:44:29,445 outreach. 3497 01:44:29,445 --> 01:44:31,314 this program was first 3498 01:44:31,314 --> 01:44:33,182 introduced as a study session 3499 01:44:33,182 --> 01:44:34,840 at the FEBRUARY 12 council 3500 01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:35,486 meeting. 3501 01:44:35,486 --> 01:44:37,870 It responds directly to the 3502 01:44:37,870 --> 01:44:38,210 economic and visual 3503 01:44:38,210 --> 01:44:39,890 challenges 3504 01:44:39,890 --> 01:44:41,191 created by persistent vacant 3505 01:44:41,191 --> 01:44:41,992 store fronts in our 3506 01:44:41,992 --> 01:44:42,693 commercial 3507 01:44:42,693 --> 01:44:44,260 corridors. 3508 01:44:44,260 --> 01:44:46,426 Launch local supports first 3509 01:44:46,664 --> 01:44:48,310 time brick and mortar 3510 01:44:48,310 --> 01:44:49,465 businesses through leases and 3511 01:44:49,465 --> 01:44:51,101 a tenant allowance up to 10 3512 01:44:51,101 --> 01:44:51,534 thousand dollars and targeted 3513 01:44:51,534 --> 01:44:53,404 outreach. 3514 01:44:53,404 --> 01:44:55,439 The intent is to lower 3515 01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:56,674 barriers to entry and pilot 3516 01:44:56,674 --> 01:44:59,674 retail concept that is have 3517 01:45:01,378 --> 01:45:02,279 long term potential. 3518 01:45:02,279 --> 01:45:03,948 Council provided thoughtful 3519 01:45:03,948 --> 01:45:05,150 and clear direction in 3520 01:45:05,150 --> 01:45:06,917 FEBRUARY which shaped the 3521 01:45:06,917 --> 01:45:07,384 final program before you 3522 01:45:07,384 --> 01:45:08,719 tonight. 3523 01:45:08,719 --> 01:45:09,953 You voiced support for 3524 01:45:09,953 --> 01:45:11,355 activation goals and 3525 01:45:11,355 --> 01:45:12,423 emphasized the importance of 3526 01:45:12,423 --> 01:45:13,924 prioritizing south san 3527 01:45:13,924 --> 01:45:15,526 francisco residents. 3528 01:45:15,526 --> 01:45:17,628 There was particular interest 3529 01:45:17,628 --> 01:45:18,529 in reactivating the former 3530 01:45:18,529 --> 01:45:20,398 barbershop space and concern 3531 01:45:20,398 --> 01:45:21,699 was raised about limiting 3532 01:45:21,699 --> 01:45:23,434 participation to a one year 3533 01:45:23,434 --> 01:45:24,601 lease term. 3534 01:45:24,601 --> 01:45:26,437 You also encouraged us to 3535 01:45:26,437 --> 01:45:27,838 create a model that private 3536 01:45:27,838 --> 01:45:29,606 property owners could adopt. 3537 01:45:29,606 --> 01:45:32,606 That input is reflected in 3538 01:45:33,511 --> 01:45:35,380 tonight's proposal. 3539 01:45:35,380 --> 01:45:37,181 I would also like to raise a 3540 01:45:37,181 --> 01:45:38,182 related item for council 3541 01:45:38,182 --> 01:45:40,180 discussion tonight. 3542 01:45:40,180 --> 01:45:42,119 Since the FEBRUARY 12 study 3543 01:45:42,119 --> 01:45:42,553 session, the city has 3544 01:45:42,553 --> 01:45:43,955 received 3545 01:45:43,955 --> 01:45:44,422 multiple inquiry from 3546 01:45:44,422 --> 01:45:46,291 existing 3547 01:45:46,291 --> 01:45:47,224 businesses, both local and 3548 01:45:47,224 --> 01:45:48,593 from neighboring cities, 3549 01:45:48,593 --> 01:45:50,461 interested in leasing the 3550 01:45:50,461 --> 01:45:51,830 grand avenue spaces at market 3551 01:45:51,830 --> 01:45:54,264 rate rent outside of the 3552 01:45:54,264 --> 01:45:55,667 launch local program. 3553 01:45:55,667 --> 01:45:57,268 One formal lease proposal has 3554 01:45:57,268 --> 01:45:57,969 already been submit and had 3555 01:45:57,969 --> 01:45:59,571 we 3556 01:45:59,571 --> 01:45:59,937 anticipate receiving another 3557 01:45:59,937 --> 01:46:01,439 soon. 3558 01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:03,642 Notably one of the interested 3559 01:46:03,642 --> 01:46:04,308 parties is an existing south 3560 01:46:04,308 --> 01:46:04,709 san francisco business 3561 01:46:04,709 --> 01:46:06,611 looking 3562 01:46:06,611 --> 01:46:08,780 to open a second location and 3563 01:46:08,780 --> 01:46:09,848 lease both of the city owned 3564 01:46:09,848 --> 01:46:11,716 storefronts on grand avenue 3565 01:46:11,716 --> 01:46:13,451 include lg the former 3566 01:46:13,451 --> 01:46:15,451 barbershop space. 3567 01:46:15,754 --> 01:46:16,388 Given this interest, staff is 3568 01:46:16,388 --> 01:46:16,888 requesting council's 3569 01:46:16,888 --> 01:46:18,290 direction 3570 01:46:18,290 --> 01:46:19,691 on whether to continue 3571 01:46:19,691 --> 01:46:21,492 reserving these spaces for 3572 01:46:21,492 --> 01:46:23,829 launch local or to consider 3573 01:46:23,829 --> 01:46:24,295 market rate lease proposals 3574 01:46:24,295 --> 01:46:26,295 separately? 3575 01:46:26,364 --> 01:46:26,832 Your input will help 3576 01:46:26,832 --> 01:46:28,832 determine 3577 01:46:29,501 --> 01:46:29,868 how we -- your input wll 3578 01:46:29,868 --> 01:46:30,969 help 3579 01:46:30,969 --> 01:46:32,771 determine how we proceed with 3580 01:46:32,771 --> 01:46:33,204 these spaces while we 3581 01:46:33,204 --> 01:46:35,204 continue 3582 01:46:36,740 --> 01:46:36,474 rolling out the broader 3583 01:46:36,474 --> 01:46:37,943 program. 3584 01:46:37,943 --> 01:46:40,440 The name launch local was 3585 01:46:40,440 --> 01:46:41,213 selected through a survey of 3586 01:46:41,213 --> 01:46:42,314 key stakeholders including 3587 01:46:42,314 --> 01:46:44,714 city staff, elected officials 3588 01:46:44,950 --> 01:46:46,151 and staff pr the renaissance 3589 01:46:46,151 --> 01:46:46,618 entrepreneurship center at 3590 01:46:46,618 --> 01:46:48,253 the 3591 01:46:48,253 --> 01:46:49,654 economic advancement center. 3592 01:46:49,654 --> 01:46:50,890 It reflects both the 3593 01:46:50,890 --> 01:46:51,256 program's 3594 01:46:51,256 --> 01:46:52,892 focus on local 3595 01:46:52,892 --> 01:46:54,460 entrepreneurship x the 3596 01:46:54,460 --> 01:46:55,761 opportunity for participants 3597 01:46:55,761 --> 01:46:57,496 to launch their first 3598 01:46:57,496 --> 01:46:57,963 physical 3599 01:46:57,963 --> 01:46:59,980 location. 3600 01:46:59,980 --> 01:47:01,266 It's memorable, energetic and 3601 01:47:01,266 --> 01:47:02,902 rooted in place. 3602 01:47:02,902 --> 01:47:05,902 Branding icluding a logo is 3603 01:47:07,373 --> 01:47:09,373 currently in development. 3604 01:47:09,442 --> 01:47:12,278 The program has four key 3605 01:47:12,278 --> 01:47:13,110 object tiers, first activate 3606 01:47:13,110 --> 01:47:14,313 underutilized retail spaces 3607 01:47:14,313 --> 01:47:16,313 in 3608 01:47:16,382 --> 01:47:18,382 south san francisco, 2, 3609 01:47:19,885 --> 01:47:22,221 support emerging for profit 3610 01:47:22,221 --> 01:47:23,222 businesses, particularly those 3611 01:47:23,222 --> 01:47:23,989 without a prior brick and 3612 01:47:23,989 --> 01:47:25,257 mortar presence, 3, encourage 3613 01:47:25,257 --> 01:47:26,625 unique and experiential 3614 01:47:26,625 --> 01:47:28,625 retail 3615 01:47:29,829 --> 01:47:30,996 or service concepts, and 4, 3616 01:47:30,996 --> 01:47:31,497 prioritize local 3617 01:47:31,497 --> 01:47:33,497 entrepreneurs 3618 01:47:34,267 --> 01:47:35,340 especially gaduates of the 3619 01:47:35,340 --> 01:47:36,335 renaissance entrepreneurship 3620 01:47:36,335 --> 01:47:38,735 center programs at the 3621 01:47:40,505 --> 01:47:41,874 economic advancement center. 3622 01:47:41,874 --> 01:47:43,508 Under this pilot, the city 3623 01:47:43,508 --> 01:47:44,744 will lease out ipsbacker its 3624 01:47:44,744 --> 01:47:47,446 own vacant retail spaces on 3625 01:47:47,446 --> 01:47:50,416 grand avenue and el camino 3626 01:47:50,416 --> 01:47:54,160 real at a discounted rate at 3627 01:47:57,156 --> 01:47:58,591 $1 per square foot. 3628 01:47:58,591 --> 01:47:59,240 The standard lease term is 3629 01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:00,894 one 3630 01:48:00,894 --> 01:48:03,294 year with performance based 3631 01:48:05,198 --> 01:48:07,198 options for renewal. 3632 01:48:08,768 --> 01:48:10,770 The rfi will open on APRIL 1 3633 01:48:10,770 --> 01:48:12,706 and close on APRIL 30. 3634 01:48:12,706 --> 01:48:13,639 All proposals must be 3635 01:48:13,639 --> 01:48:15,700 submitted electronically 3636 01:48:15,700 --> 01:48:16,175 through procure now. 3637 01:48:16,175 --> 01:48:18,575 We'll promote the opportunity 3638 01:48:19,179 --> 01:48:21,579 broadly through the city's 3639 01:48:21,681 --> 01:48:22,315 channels, the chamber of 3640 01:48:22,315 --> 01:48:23,490 commerce and the eac. 3641 01:48:23,490 --> 01:48:23,383 Materials will be available 3642 01:48:23,383 --> 01:48:24,718 in 3643 01:48:24,718 --> 01:48:25,840 english and spanish with 3644 01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:27,840 other 3645 01:48:30,556 --> 01:48:32,425 translations upon request. 3646 01:48:32,425 --> 01:48:33,960 eligible applicants must be 3647 01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:35,929 for profit businesses seeking 3648 01:48:35,929 --> 01:48:37,798 their first south san 3649 01:48:37,798 --> 01:48:38,498 francisco location, offering 3650 01:48:38,498 --> 01:48:39,700 a 3651 01:48:39,700 --> 01:48:41,670 retail or experiential s 3652 01:48:41,670 --> 01:48:41,468 frs 3653 01:48:41,468 --> 01:48:42,669 concept. 3654 01:48:42,669 --> 01:48:44,669 Demonstrating readiness and 3655 01:48:45,405 --> 01:48:46,106 capacity to operate including 3656 01:48:46,106 --> 01:48:48,106 financial sustainability, 3657 01:48:48,742 --> 01:48:49,676 priority will be given to 3658 01:48:49,676 --> 01:48:51,676 renaissance program graduates 3659 01:48:52,212 --> 01:48:55,212 aligning with their goal to 3660 01:48:55,215 --> 01:48:57,500 uplift local entrepreneurs. 3661 01:48:57,500 --> 01:48:57,518 The lease will be 12 months 3662 01:48:57,518 --> 01:48:59,518 in 3663 01:49:00,870 --> 01:49:01,254 duration with monthly sales 3664 01:49:01,254 --> 01:49:03,254 evaluations, structured as 3665 01:49:03,390 --> 01:49:03,724 triple net meaning tenants 3666 01:49:03,724 --> 01:49:04,792 are 3667 01:49:04,792 --> 01:49:06,792 responsible for property 3668 01:49:06,894 --> 01:49:07,361 taxes, insurance and 3669 01:49:07,361 --> 01:49:09,361 utilities 3670 01:49:09,563 --> 01:49:11,980 and tenant improvement costs 3671 01:49:11,980 --> 01:49:11,965 are reimbursed as a rent 3672 01:49:11,965 --> 01:49:13,601 credit, performance and 3673 01:49:13,601 --> 01:49:14,668 consistency will be evaluated 3674 01:49:14,668 --> 01:49:15,469 monthly and successful 3675 01:49:15,469 --> 01:49:17,469 tenants 3676 01:49:19,406 --> 01:49:21,976 MAY be invited to extend. 3677 01:49:21,976 --> 01:49:23,978 Tenants will pay a security 3678 01:49:23,978 --> 01:49:24,344 deposit of $2 per square 3679 01:49:24,344 --> 01:49:25,680 foot, 3680 01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:28,150 operate at least 7 hours a 3681 01:49:28,150 --> 01:49:29,650 day, five days a week, cover 3682 01:49:29,650 --> 01:49:31,319 costs for insurance, 3683 01:49:31,319 --> 01:49:32,920 utilities, garbage and 3684 01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:34,322 maintain shared spaces and 3685 01:49:34,322 --> 01:49:34,789 hold a valid city of south 3686 01:49:34,789 --> 01:49:36,789 san 3687 01:49:38,292 --> 01:49:39,928 francisco business license. 3688 01:49:39,928 --> 01:49:42,928 Proposals will be reviewed o 3689 01:49:43,865 --> 01:49:44,198 the following criteria, 3690 01:49:44,198 --> 01:49:45,320 str 3691 01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:45,933 epgt and creativity of 3692 01:49:45,933 --> 01:49:47,933 the 3693 01:49:48,690 --> 01:49:49,470 business concept, operational 3694 01:49:49,470 --> 01:49:50,304 and readiness, financial 3695 01:49:50,304 --> 01:49:52,106 sustainability and potential 3696 01:49:52,106 --> 01:49:54,106 community impact. 3697 01:49:56,440 --> 01:49:57,512 Finalists MAY be invited to 3698 01:49:57,512 --> 01:49:59,800 present a [Inaudible] Ad 3699 01:49:59,800 --> 01:50:00,782 participate in an interview. 3700 01:50:00,782 --> 01:50:02,884 The rfi will be issued on 3701 01:50:02,884 --> 01:50:03,718 APRIL 1 and proposals will be 3702 01:50:03,718 --> 01:50:05,119 due on APRIL 30. 3703 01:50:05,119 --> 01:50:06,154 Through the month of APRIL, 3704 01:50:06,154 --> 01:50:07,989 we'll be available to answer 3705 01:50:07,989 --> 01:50:08,790 questions and we plan to 3706 01:50:08,790 --> 01:50:10,790 announce the selected 3707 01:50:12,794 --> 01:50:14,395 businesses at the end of MAY. 3708 01:50:14,395 --> 01:50:15,864 There is no impact to the 3709 01:50:15,864 --> 01:50:17,864 general fund. 3710 01:50:18,900 --> 01:50:20,969 The program uses city owned 3711 01:50:20,969 --> 01:50:22,804 currently vacant space and is 3712 01:50:22,804 --> 01:50:23,772 recoups rent through tenant 3713 01:50:23,772 --> 01:50:25,373 spaces, the tenant payment 3714 01:50:25,373 --> 01:50:28,373 allowance is striated as rent 3715 01:50:28,676 --> 01:50:30,178 payment, the triple lease 3716 01:50:30,178 --> 01:50:32,480 structure ensures the city is 3717 01:50:32,480 --> 01:50:32,848 not absorbing additional 3718 01:50:32,848 --> 01:50:33,882 costs. 3719 01:50:33,882 --> 01:50:34,548 Launch local is an 3720 01:50:34,548 --> 01:50:36,418 opportunity 3721 01:50:36,418 --> 01:50:37,352 to support local 3722 01:50:37,352 --> 01:50:39,352 entrepreneurship, enhance the 3723 01:50:39,688 --> 01:50:41,323 vitality of our retail 3724 01:50:41,323 --> 01:50:41,690 corridors, create a model 3725 01:50:41,690 --> 01:50:43,391 that 3726 01:50:43,391 --> 01:50:43,825 privateer owners can 3727 01:50:43,825 --> 01:50:44,559 replicate. 3728 01:50:44,559 --> 01:50:46,559 Pending council approval 3729 01:50:46,662 --> 01:50:49,230 tonight, we will launch the 3730 01:50:49,230 --> 01:50:51,133 rfi on APRIL 1 and we gin 3731 01:50:51,133 --> 01:50:53,133 tenant outreach immediately. 3732 01:50:53,902 --> 01:50:56,380 As a reminder, we're also 3733 01:50:56,380 --> 01:50:58,438 seeking council's guidance on 3734 01:50:59,474 --> 01:51:01,176 how to present with the grand 3735 01:51:01,176 --> 01:51:01,909 avenue spaces outside the 3736 01:51:01,909 --> 01:51:02,845 launch local program, thank 3737 01:51:02,845 --> 01:51:03,979 you for your time and 3738 01:51:03,979 --> 01:51:05,147 attention and I'm happy to 3739 01:51:05,147 --> 01:51:06,810 answer any questions or 3740 01:51:06,810 --> 01:51:07,716 discuss next steps. 3741 01:51:07,716 --> 01:51:10,520 >> thank you, katie, greet 3742 01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:11,921 work on this, great 3743 01:51:11,921 --> 01:51:13,322 presentation, lots to unpack, 3744 01:51:13,322 --> 01:51:16,258 I'm sure my colleagues have 3745 01:51:16,258 --> 01:51:18,627 questions, so let's go with 3746 01:51:18,627 --> 01:51:20,627 councilman nicolas? 3747 01:51:21,897 --> 01:51:23,866 >> so, katie, on the market 3748 01:51:23,866 --> 01:51:27,466 rate, you said we will have 3749 01:51:28,437 --> 01:51:30,437 two, right? 3750 01:51:31,540 --> 01:51:33,376 And one is already an 3751 01:51:33,376 --> 01:51:34,243 established south city 3752 01:51:34,243 --> 01:51:36,243 business. 3753 01:51:36,545 --> 01:51:37,713 Pearly I think, you know, 3754 01:51:37,713 --> 01:51:38,881 since it's market rate and I 3755 01:51:38,881 --> 01:51:41,881 understand we would like to 3756 01:51:42,952 --> 01:51:44,120 preserve the historical look 3757 01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:45,654 of the barbershop, but from 3758 01:51:45,654 --> 01:51:47,523 my 3759 01:51:47,523 --> 01:51:51,600 point of view, a bird in hand 3760 01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:55,260 is worth two in the bush, but 3761 01:51:59,680 --> 01:51:59,836 I think there are still other 3762 01:51:59,836 --> 01:52:00,570 city city properties that we 3763 01:52:00,570 --> 01:52:02,438 can proceed with being the 3764 01:52:02,438 --> 01:52:05,438 pilot project fr the launch 3765 01:52:07,243 --> 01:52:08,110 local, is that correct? 3766 01:52:08,110 --> 01:52:09,745 >> it will just be the one on 3767 01:52:09,745 --> 01:52:11,147 el camino, correct, yeah. 3768 01:52:11,147 --> 01:52:11,513 >> are there others aside 3769 01:52:11,513 --> 01:52:11,948 from 3770 01:52:11,948 --> 01:52:13,883 these two? 3771 01:52:13,883 --> 01:52:15,385 >> those are the only 3772 01:52:15,385 --> 01:52:17,200 vacancies, yeah. 3773 01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:20,200 >> and then we will encourage 3774 01:52:20,290 --> 01:52:22,759 also the other ones that are 3775 01:52:22,759 --> 01:52:23,930 -- if we find out or if we 3776 01:52:23,930 --> 01:52:25,930 can 3777 01:52:28,932 --> 01:52:31,701 prove this is -- this is a 3778 01:52:31,701 --> 01:52:32,402 viable option for property 3779 01:52:32,402 --> 01:52:32,769 owners, have we talked to 3780 01:52:32,769 --> 01:52:33,503 some 3781 01:52:33,503 --> 01:52:34,300 of them and see what their 3782 01:52:34,300 --> 01:52:36,300 interests are? 3783 01:52:36,606 --> 01:52:38,441 >> we haven't talked to any 3784 01:52:38,441 --> 01:52:39,109 yet but that was our 3785 01:52:39,109 --> 01:52:41,109 intention 3786 01:52:42,279 --> 01:52:43,280 if this pilot program deems 3787 01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:44,914 successful and there was 3788 01:52:44,914 --> 01:52:47,170 interest from council to 3789 01:52:47,170 --> 01:52:48,384 expand it, we wuld look into 3790 01:52:48,384 --> 01:52:50,384 private property owners. 3791 01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:52,389 >> but I'm very supportive of 3792 01:52:52,389 --> 01:52:52,723 what you have outlined for 3793 01:52:52,723 --> 01:52:53,223 the 3794 01:52:53,223 --> 01:52:53,958 launch local. 3795 01:52:53,958 --> 01:52:55,292 >> thank you. 3796 01:52:55,292 --> 01:52:57,292 >> great, thank you. 3797 01:52:58,161 --> 01:52:59,829 Anyone ese? 3798 01:52:59,829 --> 01:53:00,163 >> I also am supportive of 3799 01:53:00,163 --> 01:53:01,932 the 3800 01:53:01,932 --> 01:53:03,366 program and we wanted to test 3801 01:53:03,366 --> 01:53:04,134 drive it with all the 3802 01:53:04,134 --> 01:53:06,534 properties w have available 3803 01:53:06,770 --> 01:53:07,237 but in the meantime, katie 3804 01:53:07,237 --> 01:53:09,237 was 3805 01:53:09,373 --> 01:53:10,808 kind enough to show the 3806 01:53:10,808 --> 01:53:11,174 property to a family that 3807 01:53:11,174 --> 01:53:12,408 I've 3808 01:53:12,408 --> 01:53:15,790 known for a dozen years who 3809 01:53:15,790 --> 01:53:16,246 are currently in business and 3810 01:53:16,246 --> 01:53:16,713 as the COUNCILWOMAN 3811 01:53:16,713 --> 01:53:18,713 Mentioned, 3812 01:53:18,782 --> 01:53:20,184 you know, a bird in the hand, 3813 01:53:20,184 --> 01:53:21,818 so it really speaks to the 3814 01:53:21,818 --> 01:53:22,185 viability of our downtown 3815 01:53:22,185 --> 01:53:24,185 that 3816 01:53:26,957 --> 01:53:28,792 somebody wants it right away 3817 01:53:28,792 --> 01:53:29,126 and you MAY or MAY not come 3818 01:53:29,126 --> 01:53:30,894 to 3819 01:53:30,894 --> 01:53:33,894 agreement on all the terms, 3820 01:53:34,264 --> 01:53:34,965 but the el camino is a whole 3821 01:53:34,965 --> 01:53:35,332 different challenge so it 3822 01:53:35,332 --> 01:53:37,332 will 3823 01:53:39,904 --> 01:53:40,371 be interesting to see who's 3824 01:53:40,371 --> 01:53:42,371 interested. 3825 01:53:44,108 --> 01:53:45,275 As far as the tenant 3826 01:53:45,275 --> 01:53:46,710 participation, it is -- a 3827 01:53:46,710 --> 01:53:48,346 dollar a square foot is a 3828 01:53:48,346 --> 01:53:48,813 great deal but all those 3829 01:53:48,813 --> 01:53:50,813 other 3830 01:53:50,915 --> 01:53:52,450 things add up rapidly too, so 3831 01:53:52,450 --> 01:53:54,384 it's quite a commitment for 3832 01:53:54,384 --> 01:53:56,154 someone coming out of a home 3833 01:53:56,154 --> 01:53:56,487 business or just a concept, 3834 01:53:56,487 --> 01:53:57,922 so 3835 01:53:57,922 --> 01:54:00,458 anyway, but generally I like 3836 01:54:00,458 --> 01:54:01,124 the idea and you were 3837 01:54:01,124 --> 01:54:03,124 wonderful in kpix. 3838 01:54:05,263 --> 01:54:06,263 >> thank you. 3839 01:54:06,263 --> 01:54:08,165 >> councilmember? 3840 01:54:08,165 --> 01:54:09,968 >> thanks, MR. Mayor, I agree 3841 01:54:09,968 --> 01:54:12,570 with my colleagues, I think 3842 01:54:12,570 --> 01:54:14,505 this is potentially a great 3843 01:54:14,505 --> 01:54:16,374 pilot program. 3844 01:54:16,374 --> 01:54:18,910 I think I kind of share the 3845 01:54:18,910 --> 01:54:20,440 concerns in terms of like el 3846 01:54:20,440 --> 01:54:20,444 camino real versus grand 3847 01:54:20,444 --> 01:54:22,444 avenue. 3848 01:54:23,114 --> 01:54:24,282 You know, one of the things I 3849 01:54:24,282 --> 01:54:27,282 was thinking about, you know, 3850 01:54:27,452 --> 01:54:29,621 if we place this business on 3851 01:54:29,621 --> 01:54:30,588 grand avenue, they do well, 3852 01:54:30,588 --> 01:54:31,790 eventually they have to 3853 01:54:31,790 --> 01:54:33,790 rotate 3854 01:54:34,225 --> 01:54:36,794 out or we could maybe extend 3855 01:54:36,794 --> 01:54:37,562 the lease as well, is that 3856 01:54:37,562 --> 01:54:39,562 another option? 3857 01:54:40,832 --> 01:54:44,269 The idea is to rotate to have 3858 01:54:44,269 --> 01:54:47,269 a -- not a rediscovering 3859 01:54:48,206 --> 01:54:49,841 involver -- revolving door, 3860 01:54:49,841 --> 01:54:51,977 but a pop up business, you 3861 01:54:51,977 --> 01:54:53,144 would help the tenant either 3862 01:54:53,144 --> 01:54:53,511 locate somewhere else, I 3863 01:54:53,511 --> 01:54:54,790 that 3864 01:54:54,790 --> 01:54:55,480 correct, or -- 3865 01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:58,160 >> yes, we could do that. 3866 01:54:58,160 --> 01:54:59,684 >> okay, but at that point, 3867 01:54:59,684 --> 01:55:00,385 they're paying potentially 3868 01:55:00,385 --> 01:55:01,787 full market value? 3869 01:55:01,787 --> 01:55:03,787 >> correct. 3870 01:55:03,855 --> 01:55:04,755 >> and that potentially 3871 01:55:04,755 --> 01:55:05,924 could 3872 01:55:05,924 --> 01:55:07,325 be a problem as well because 3873 01:55:07,325 --> 01:55:08,260 they were paying a pretty 3874 01:55:08,260 --> 01:55:10,260 good 3875 01:55:10,329 --> 01:55:11,496 rate and hopefully they were 3876 01:55:11,496 --> 01:55:11,863 start in terms of saving 3877 01:55:11,863 --> 01:55:13,565 their 3878 01:55:13,565 --> 01:55:15,367 money and doing the right 3879 01:55:15,367 --> 01:55:16,834 business model so they're 3880 01:55:16,834 --> 01:55:18,170 reminded, hey, this is only 3881 01:55:18,170 --> 01:55:19,838 temporary, you're going to be 3882 01:55:19,838 --> 01:55:22,441 here, we want to establish 3883 01:55:22,441 --> 01:55:24,209 your business and then 3884 01:55:24,209 --> 01:55:25,611 potentially rotate out into 3885 01:55:25,611 --> 01:55:27,313 another location, so I think 3886 01:55:27,313 --> 01:55:29,614 that's going to be on you and 3887 01:55:29,614 --> 01:55:31,183 staff to say, okay, you could 3888 01:55:31,183 --> 01:55:32,418 have a good business model in 3889 01:55:32,418 --> 01:55:34,190 the sense, you have to get 3890 01:55:34,190 --> 01:55:34,353 ready for the full market, 3891 01:55:34,353 --> 01:55:36,353 you 3892 01:55:36,689 --> 01:55:39,792 know, so I kind of want -- a 3893 01:55:39,792 --> 01:55:42,528 long way of singing on what 3894 01:55:42,528 --> 01:55:43,696 are you asking them to help 3895 01:55:43,696 --> 01:55:45,197 them relocate, I know it's 3896 01:55:45,197 --> 01:55:47,132 early but I want you to be 3897 01:55:47,132 --> 01:55:49,132 thinking about that. 3898 01:55:49,201 --> 01:55:51,601 >> yeah, we haven't gotten 3899 01:55:51,637 --> 01:55:52,771 that far in that planning 3900 01:55:52,771 --> 01:55:55,574 process, but that's part of 3901 01:55:55,574 --> 01:55:56,274 the reason why we want to 3902 01:55:56,274 --> 01:55:56,975 prioritize renaissance 3903 01:55:56,975 --> 01:55:58,975 graduates because they've 3904 01:55:58,978 --> 01:56:00,978 gone 3905 01:56:02,615 --> 01:56:03,649 through an extensive business 3906 01:56:03,649 --> 01:56:04,750 class and, you know, city 3907 01:56:04,750 --> 01:56:06,385 staff will be available to 3908 01:56:06,385 --> 01:56:08,785 help them and renaissance 3909 01:56:09,188 --> 01:56:10,590 staff will be available to 3910 01:56:10,590 --> 01:56:12,224 help them, so, they learn 3911 01:56:12,224 --> 01:56:13,860 these skills of like if 3912 01:56:13,860 --> 01:56:16,362 they're even capable to be 3913 01:56:16,362 --> 01:56:17,297 running a brick and mortar 3914 01:56:17,297 --> 01:56:19,297 business ad hopefully 3915 01:56:20,233 --> 01:56:21,768 scavenging aving -- saving 3916 01:56:21,768 --> 01:56:23,803 some money e even if they 3917 01:56:23,803 --> 01:56:26,803 can't hit that market rate 3918 01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:28,641 rent, maybe it if it's 75% 3919 01:56:28,641 --> 01:56:29,909 market rate, so that's all 3920 01:56:29,909 --> 01:56:33,509 things we'll have to play out 3921 01:56:34,130 --> 01:56:35,882 when we see those numbers. 3922 01:56:35,882 --> 01:56:38,510 >> I look forward to it. 3923 01:56:38,510 --> 01:56:38,984 There is kind of the 3924 01:56:38,984 --> 01:56:40,386 interesting conversation of 3925 01:56:40,386 --> 01:56:41,687 talking to other landlords to 3926 01:56:41,687 --> 01:56:44,687 see if they're interested in 3927 01:56:44,724 --> 01:56:46,560 doing this kind of model. 3928 01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:49,429 Someone said they want a 3929 01:56:49,429 --> 01:56:49,896 permitted kind of tenant, 3930 01:56:49,896 --> 01:56:51,896 than 3931 01:56:51,998 --> 01:56:53,200 a temporary tenant but I'm 3932 01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:55,434 supportive of the concept. 3933 01:56:55,434 --> 01:56:57,404 >> thank you. 3934 01:56:57,404 --> 01:56:59,106 >> I think this I a great 3935 01:56:59,106 --> 01:57:01,408 idea and I wanted to thank 3936 01:57:01,408 --> 01:57:01,774 staff for having the 3937 01:57:01,774 --> 01:57:03,774 visionary 3938 01:57:03,844 --> 01:57:05,678 in them to present this to us 3939 01:57:05,678 --> 01:57:07,247 and to really activate these 3940 01:57:07,247 --> 01:57:08,414 vacant spaces so I'm ready to 3941 01:57:08,414 --> 01:57:10,116 mover forward with the pilot 3942 01:57:10,116 --> 01:57:11,652 program and I can't wait to 3943 01:57:11,652 --> 01:57:12,452 see which businesses move in. 3944 01:57:12,452 --> 01:57:13,420 >> thank you. 3945 01:57:13,420 --> 01:57:14,654 >> thank you, this is 3946 01:57:14,654 --> 01:57:15,922 exciting, this is the right 3947 01:57:15,922 --> 01:57:16,290 direction that we need to 3948 01:57:16,290 --> 01:57:18,290 head 3949 01:57:19,660 --> 01:57:20,861 not only for downtown but for 3950 01:57:20,861 --> 01:57:22,229 our entire city being a 3951 01:57:22,229 --> 01:57:23,163 creative out of the box 3952 01:57:23,163 --> 01:57:24,331 thinking, I really appreciate 3953 01:57:24,331 --> 01:57:26,200 the name too and looking 3954 01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:27,601 forward to the logo. 3955 01:57:27,601 --> 01:57:29,203 In the guidelines when you 3956 01:57:29,203 --> 01:57:30,837 determine who can apply, you 3957 01:57:30,837 --> 01:57:32,205 said for profit businesses 3958 01:57:32,205 --> 01:57:33,640 seeking first south city 3959 01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:34,574 location but you're also 3960 01:57:34,574 --> 01:57:36,176 mentioning this local one 3961 01:57:36,176 --> 01:57:36,876 would have a second south 3962 01:57:36,876 --> 01:57:38,512 city 3963 01:57:38,512 --> 01:57:39,813 location, so is that just a 3964 01:57:39,813 --> 01:57:40,814 caveat for that particular 3965 01:57:40,814 --> 01:57:42,814 case? 3966 01:57:42,916 --> 01:57:44,840 >> so, that's what we mean, 3967 01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:44,552 like, that's what we wanted 3968 01:57:44,552 --> 01:57:46,387 to 3969 01:57:46,387 --> 01:57:48,210 get some guidance on is do we 3970 01:57:48,210 --> 01:57:49,190 want to make an exception to 3971 01:57:49,190 --> 01:57:51,258 this program, do we really 3972 01:57:51,258 --> 01:57:54,258 want to reserve these spaces 3973 01:57:54,328 --> 01:57:55,996 for launch local or would we 3974 01:57:55,996 --> 01:57:58,650 like to have something that's 3975 01:57:58,650 --> 01:57:59,233 possibly a bit more secure 3976 01:57:59,233 --> 01:58:00,801 that's an established 3977 01:58:00,801 --> 01:58:03,201 business, can afford the 3978 01:58:04,472 --> 01:58:05,238 market rate rent and work on 3979 01:58:05,238 --> 01:58:07,638 lease negotiation terms with 3980 01:58:07,742 --> 01:58:09,109 them and then maybe we find a 3981 01:58:09,109 --> 01:58:12,109 different way, like w just 3982 01:58:12,380 --> 01:58:14,682 focus on el camino, do we 3983 01:58:14,682 --> 01:58:15,850 start maybe having talks with 3984 01:58:15,850 --> 01:58:17,251 private property owners? 3985 01:58:17,251 --> 01:58:19,651 >> because it doesn't really 3986 01:58:20,870 --> 01:58:20,788 fit into your name if it's 3987 01:58:20,788 --> 01:58:21,255 launch local, right. 3988 01:58:21,255 --> 01:58:21,555 >> correct. 3989 01:58:21,555 --> 01:58:22,457 Er 3990 01:58:22,457 --> 01:58:23,357 >> you have to rename it. 3991 01:58:23,357 --> 01:58:24,558 >> yes. 3992 01:58:24,558 --> 01:58:26,427 Er 3993 01:58:26,427 --> 01:58:28,827 >> I'm supportive like my 3994 01:58:29,931 --> 01:58:30,632 colleagues have said, I'm 3995 01:58:30,632 --> 01:58:32,632 open 3996 01:58:34,234 --> 01:58:35,503 to el camino, grand avenue we 3997 01:58:35,503 --> 01:58:35,870 could prioritize for our 3998 01:58:35,870 --> 01:58:37,870 local 3999 01:58:38,500 --> 01:58:39,700 businesses here that would 4000 01:58:39,700 --> 01:58:39,473 like to expand, right, or 4001 01:58:39,473 --> 01:58:40,174 have 4002 01:58:40,174 --> 01:58:42,174 a second location. 4003 01:58:46,247 --> 01:58:47,140 I think it fits with the nay 4004 01:58:47,140 --> 01:58:50,614 ture and khur and the fabric 4005 01:58:50,952 --> 01:58:53,352 of downtown and represented 4006 01:58:54,689 --> 01:58:57,689 in that sector of businesses. 4007 01:58:59,940 --> 01:59:00,729 I can't speak enough, their 4008 01:59:00,729 --> 01:59:02,564 program fully vets them and 4009 01:59:02,564 --> 01:59:03,732 fully prepares them, not only 4010 01:59:03,732 --> 01:59:05,533 in city permitting but in 4011 01:59:05,533 --> 01:59:07,135 marketing and being able to 4012 01:59:07,135 --> 01:59:09,104 launch and being able to 4013 01:59:09,104 --> 01:59:11,106 network and really sell and 4014 01:59:11,106 --> 01:59:12,400 equips them with the tools, 4015 01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:14,142 the important tools they need 4016 01:59:14,142 --> 01:59:15,677 to be a successful business 4017 01:59:15,677 --> 01:59:18,580 owner so that's the key for 4018 01:59:18,580 --> 01:59:21,830 me, being able to already 4019 01:59:21,830 --> 01:59:22,918 connect individuals that are 4020 01:59:22,918 --> 01:59:24,453 ready, are in the right 4021 01:59:24,453 --> 01:59:26,421 mindset and the space to move 4022 01:59:26,421 --> 01:59:28,556 forward and I think the lease 4023 01:59:28,556 --> 01:59:30,159 structure and the program 4024 01:59:30,159 --> 01:59:31,793 guidelines are extremely well 4025 01:59:31,793 --> 01:59:33,194 thought out, so I'm very 4026 01:59:33,194 --> 01:59:34,362 supportive of this, thank you. 4027 01:59:34,362 --> 01:59:34,730 Good job again, I appreciate 4028 01:59:34,730 --> 01:59:36,364 this. 4029 01:59:36,364 --> 01:59:37,800 >> I have one more question. 4030 01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:38,133 I was a little bit confused 4031 01:59:38,133 --> 01:59:40,133 by 4032 01:59:40,402 --> 01:59:41,804 some of the questions and the 4033 01:59:41,804 --> 01:59:44,106 answers to MR. Nagales. 4034 01:59:44,106 --> 01:59:48,306 So, if we have somebody go in 4035 01:59:50,445 --> 01:59:51,380 for that 12 months initially, 4036 01:59:51,380 --> 01:59:52,514 they're not automatically out 4037 01:59:52,514 --> 01:59:54,616 in month 13, are they? 4038 01:59:54,616 --> 01:59:56,180 >> no. 4039 01:59:56,180 --> 01:59:56,351 >> a very lng time ago, I 4040 01:59:56,351 --> 01:59:58,351 was 4041 01:59:59,540 --> 01:59:59,488 if business, the first yar 4042 01:59:59,488 --> 02:00:01,488 is 4043 02:00:01,590 --> 02:00:02,258 a xwlaoet blur, you can 4044 02:00:02,258 --> 02:00:04,258 barely 4045 02:00:06,562 --> 02:00:07,930 get your bearings the first 4046 02:00:07,930 --> 02:00:11,530 year, we want somebody to be 4047 02:00:11,834 --> 02:00:12,268 able to grow their roots in a 4048 02:00:12,268 --> 02:00:14,136 business. 4049 02:00:14,136 --> 02:00:15,700 >> yes. 4050 02:00:15,700 --> 02:00:17,440 >> nell selander here, I 4051 02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:19,108 wanted to add one thing, the 4052 02:00:19,108 --> 02:00:20,476 year check-in is a great 4053 02:00:20,476 --> 02:00:21,611 opportunity for us to make 4054 02:00:21,611 --> 02:00:23,478 sure they're oerating the 4055 02:00:23,478 --> 02:00:26,478 business they intended to, so 4056 02:00:26,582 --> 02:00:26,915 one of the big object tiers 4057 02:00:26,915 --> 02:00:28,915 of 4058 02:00:31,200 --> 02:00:34,200 the program is activation and 4059 02:00:36,959 --> 02:00:39,695 being more vibrant and what 4060 02:00:39,695 --> 02:00:40,463 can often happen with a 4061 02:00:40,463 --> 02:00:41,197 business that's struggling is 4062 02:00:41,197 --> 02:00:41,964 their hours get reduced and 4063 02:00:41,964 --> 02:00:42,598 reduced and maybe they start 4064 02:00:42,598 --> 02:00:43,733 using the space for a 4065 02:00:43,733 --> 02:00:46,503 different it is back office 4066 02:00:46,503 --> 02:00:49,506 for this or it's, you know, 4067 02:00:49,506 --> 02:00:51,774 it's nt what was intended by 4068 02:00:51,774 --> 02:00:53,376 the program, so the year 4069 02:00:53,376 --> 02:00:53,843 check-in and the monthly 4070 02:00:53,843 --> 02:00:55,110 sales 4071 02:00:55,110 --> 02:00:56,412 reports are really important 4072 02:00:56,412 --> 02:00:56,746 so that we're getting what 4073 02:00:56,746 --> 02:00:58,281 the 4074 02:00:58,281 --> 02:00:59,215 program is intended to 4075 02:00:59,215 --> 02:01:01,215 provide 4076 02:01:02,953 --> 02:01:04,520 which is active service or 4077 02:01:04,520 --> 02:01:05,522 retail and that year check-in 4078 02:01:05,522 --> 02:01:07,724 will be more about the 4079 02:01:07,724 --> 02:01:10,124 performance of the business 4080 02:01:11,294 --> 02:01:12,596 and can they afford market 4081 02:01:12,596 --> 02:01:14,640 rate today, but we want to 4082 02:01:14,640 --> 02:01:15,932 make sure we have that check 4083 02:01:15,932 --> 02:01:17,334 so we don't end up with 4084 02:01:17,334 --> 02:01:17,834 another space that's 4085 02:01:17,834 --> 02:01:19,168 underutilized. 4086 02:01:19,168 --> 02:01:19,435 >> I think it's interesting 4087 02:01:19,435 --> 02:01:21,435 to 4088 02:01:21,571 --> 02:01:22,739 see so much o the 4089 02:01:22,739 --> 02:01:24,141 construction, the commercial 4090 02:01:24,141 --> 02:01:25,775 development of the ground 4091 02:01:25,775 --> 02:01:27,144 floor has not been a roaring 4092 02:01:27,144 --> 02:01:30,744 success n the city of san 4093 02:01:32,115 --> 02:01:34,318 mateo, there's a doper called 4094 02:01:34,318 --> 02:01:35,652 essex na has a project on dep 4095 02:01:35,652 --> 02:01:36,587 ware avenue near 92, they 4096 02:01:36,587 --> 02:01:38,388 announced they're goipg the 4097 02:01:38,388 --> 02:01:39,623 leave their office space in 4098 02:01:39,623 --> 02:01:40,791 downtown san mateo and take 4099 02:01:40,791 --> 02:01:42,860 over the commercial space on 4100 02:01:42,860 --> 02:01:45,860 the ground floor to ativate 4101 02:01:46,397 --> 02:01:47,864 the other part of the retail 4102 02:01:47,864 --> 02:01:49,466 space, besides the 500 tenant 4103 02:01:49,466 --> 02:01:51,350 that is are in the building, 4104 02:01:51,350 --> 02:01:51,502 they're going to have a 4105 02:01:51,502 --> 02:01:52,903 couple 4106 02:01:52,903 --> 02:01:53,971 of 100 employees working in 4107 02:01:53,971 --> 02:01:55,506 the offices there. 4108 02:01:55,506 --> 02:01:55,873 Are we able to do the same 4109 02:01:55,873 --> 02:01:57,408 thing? 4110 02:01:57,408 --> 02:01:58,542 I know in the past, we had 4111 02:01:58,542 --> 02:02:00,611 some restrictions on what 4112 02:02:00,611 --> 02:02:02,947 could go in the ground floor 4113 02:02:02,947 --> 02:02:04,810 but are we ale to do 4114 02:02:04,810 --> 02:02:05,750 something similar where it 4115 02:02:05,750 --> 02:02:07,284 could b maybe an intense 4116 02:02:07,284 --> 02:02:09,684 office use to generate 4117 02:02:12,389 --> 02:02:13,758 activity on the street? 4118 02:02:13,758 --> 02:02:15,392 >> billy with planning 4119 02:02:15,392 --> 02:02:15,759 division, we have taken a 4120 02:02:15,759 --> 02:02:17,759 way, 4121 02:02:18,663 --> 02:02:20,330 any requirement for even 4122 02:02:20,330 --> 02:02:22,466 commercial space, it's more 4123 02:02:22,466 --> 02:02:25,102 about design, does it have an 4124 02:02:25,102 --> 02:02:26,437 active front, does it have 4125 02:02:26,437 --> 02:02:27,705 windows, it could be office 4126 02:02:27,705 --> 02:02:30,705 space, we don't require there 4127 02:02:31,476 --> 02:02:32,743 to be a certain percentage of 4128 02:02:32,743 --> 02:02:33,544 commercial space, it's all 4129 02:02:33,544 --> 02:02:34,945 design related. 4130 02:02:34,945 --> 02:02:36,581 >> before we were looking for 4131 02:02:36,581 --> 02:02:36,948 the retail experience and 4132 02:02:36,948 --> 02:02:38,948 that 4133 02:02:39,830 --> 02:02:40,985 has evaporated. 4134 02:02:40,985 --> 02:02:42,453 >> it could be a senior 4135 02:02:42,453 --> 02:02:43,210 center, it could be a 4136 02:02:43,210 --> 02:02:45,210 community center. 4137 02:02:45,123 --> 02:02:45,990 It could be a lot of things 4138 02:02:45,990 --> 02:02:47,990 happening, especially I 4139 02:02:48,192 --> 02:02:48,593 downtown and anywhere else. 4140 02:02:48,593 --> 02:02:50,593 Alright. 4141 02:02:50,762 --> 02:02:51,196 If I don't have any o 4142 02:02:51,196 --> 02:02:51,629 ir 4143 02:02:51,629 --> 02:02:52,363 other 4144 02:02:52,363 --> 02:02:54,232 comments or questions -- 4145 02:02:54,232 --> 02:02:54,598 >> I just want to clarify 4146 02:02:54,598 --> 02:02:56,598 from 4147 02:02:57,202 --> 02:02:57,636 my understanding, is 4148 02:02:57,636 --> 02:02:59,404 council's 4149 02:02:59,404 --> 02:03:00,772 direction that the preference 4150 02:03:00,772 --> 02:03:01,473 -- are we hearing a 4151 02:03:01,473 --> 02:03:02,607 preference 4152 02:03:02,607 --> 02:03:03,740 for an established business 4153 02:03:03,740 --> 02:03:04,909 to 4154 02:03:04,909 --> 02:03:06,978 rent this retail space at 4155 02:03:06,978 --> 02:03:10,578 market rate or are you saying 4156 02:03:11,549 --> 02:03:12,517 we should give preference to 4157 02:03:12,517 --> 02:03:14,419 the launch local folks? 4158 02:03:14,419 --> 02:03:15,554 I'm trying to understand what 4159 02:03:15,554 --> 02:03:17,554 your preference is. 4160 02:03:18,623 --> 02:03:20,492 We would -- the el camino one 4161 02:03:20,492 --> 02:03:21,660 is vacant, that could be a 4162 02:03:21,660 --> 02:03:23,610 launch local, and in the 4163 02:03:23,610 --> 02:03:23,995 future, other city owned 4164 02:03:23,995 --> 02:03:25,163 properties could become 4165 02:03:25,163 --> 02:03:26,331 vacant, once we have the 4166 02:03:26,331 --> 02:03:28,731 guidelines and the framework 4167 02:03:30,350 --> 02:03:31,436 and we have one pilot in el 4168 02:03:31,436 --> 02:03:33,710 camino, I'm trying to get 4169 02:03:33,710 --> 02:03:33,705 whether we should pursue this 4170 02:03:33,705 --> 02:03:34,139 other opportunity for 4171 02:03:34,139 --> 02:03:36,740 somebody 4172 02:03:36,740 --> 02:03:37,475 that wants tos rent it at 4173 02:03:37,475 --> 02:03:38,343 market rate or hold those 4174 02:03:38,343 --> 02:03:40,743 spaces for launch local. 4175 02:03:40,946 --> 02:03:42,814 I want to be clear with that. 4176 02:03:42,814 --> 02:03:43,949 >> aisle reiterate, you can't 4177 02:03:43,949 --> 02:03:45,350 imagine smebody walking by 4178 02:03:45,350 --> 02:03:46,484 and somebody wants to do 4179 02:03:46,484 --> 02:03:48,153 market rate right now. 4180 02:03:48,153 --> 02:03:51,753 >> that's how I feel, and in 4181 02:03:53,492 --> 02:03:55,461 terms of making sure that the 4182 02:03:55,461 --> 02:03:56,494 historical effects, maybe the 4183 02:03:56,494 --> 02:03:58,894 historical society will be 4184 02:04:00,165 --> 02:04:00,598 pressed and we'll focus on 4185 02:04:00,598 --> 02:04:02,598 the 4186 02:04:02,902 --> 02:04:03,369 366 el camino, perhaps what 4187 02:04:03,369 --> 02:04:05,136 we 4188 02:04:05,136 --> 02:04:06,572 can do is perhaps the 4189 02:04:06,572 --> 02:04:08,941 renaissance graduates will be 4190 02:04:08,941 --> 02:04:11,941 -- because the place there, 4191 02:04:14,460 --> 02:04:16,682 there's a lab and a florist, 4192 02:04:16,682 --> 02:04:17,883 maybe something that will be 4193 02:04:17,883 --> 02:04:18,584 complementing to those 4194 02:04:18,584 --> 02:04:19,818 establishments that are 4195 02:04:19,818 --> 02:04:21,818 already in there. 4196 02:04:22,788 --> 02:04:24,390 i went to milty lab one day 4197 02:04:24,390 --> 02:04:25,791 and there's long line and a 4198 02:04:25,791 --> 02:04:27,660 long waiting list so I think 4199 02:04:27,660 --> 02:04:29,294 the business is tieing and 4200 02:04:29,294 --> 02:04:29,695 florist, it looks like 4201 02:04:29,695 --> 02:04:31,695 they're 4202 02:04:31,763 --> 02:04:32,932 doing business, so I think 4203 02:04:32,932 --> 02:04:34,932 from the renaissance 4204 02:04:35,340 --> 02:04:36,569 graduates, we can have a hand 4205 02:04:36,569 --> 02:04:38,704 in picking out all of those 4206 02:04:38,704 --> 02:04:40,305 that we will be doing the 4207 02:04:40,305 --> 02:04:42,308 launch local projects so that 4208 02:04:42,308 --> 02:04:44,110 we will be assured they will 4209 02:04:44,110 --> 02:04:46,110 be thriving. 4210 02:04:51,617 --> 02:04:53,486 >> got it, thank you so much. 4211 02:04:53,486 --> 02:04:54,521 >> that's not just one, it is 4212 02:04:54,521 --> 02:04:56,656 a huge space, hopefully that 4213 02:04:56,656 --> 02:04:57,924 is one of the tenants there, 4214 02:04:57,924 --> 02:05:00,827 hopefully we get that taken 4215 02:05:00,827 --> 02:05:02,662 care of too, right. 4216 02:05:02,662 --> 02:05:03,897 >> great, you have direction. 4217 02:05:03,897 --> 02:05:04,898 I think this is also 4218 02:05:04,898 --> 02:05:06,898 important 4219 02:05:08,201 --> 02:05:08,534 to note that it's good the 4220 02:05:08,534 --> 02:05:09,369 one 4221 02:05:09,369 --> 02:05:10,269 year check-in, provide data 4222 02:05:10,269 --> 02:05:10,837 for us, right. 4223 02:05:10,837 --> 02:05:11,705 That way request 4224 02:05:11,705 --> 02:05:12,839 f we can 4225 02:05:12,839 --> 02:05:14,473 make an informed decision. 4226 02:05:14,473 --> 02:05:15,909 I think after all this I a 4227 02:05:15,909 --> 02:05:16,242 pilot program so we're able 4228 02:05:16,242 --> 02:05:17,744 to 4229 02:05:17,744 --> 02:05:19,178 kind of finesse and tweak a 4230 02:05:19,178 --> 02:05:21,140 few things but for right now, 4231 02:05:21,140 --> 02:05:23,215 this is what we're -- I'm 4232 02:05:23,215 --> 02:05:24,317 hearing consensus from my 4233 02:05:24,317 --> 02:05:25,180 colleagues here. 4234 02:05:25,180 --> 02:05:25,684 Good? 4235 02:05:25,684 --> 02:05:27,530 Okay. 4236 02:05:27,530 --> 02:05:28,622 >> you need a motion? 4237 02:05:28,622 --> 02:05:29,423 >> let me check on public 4238 02:05:29,423 --> 02:05:30,857 comments first. 4239 02:05:30,857 --> 02:05:31,958 >> no pblic comments but we 4240 02:05:31,958 --> 02:05:34,358 do need a motion. 4241 02:05:35,962 --> 02:05:37,364 >> we do need a motion now. 4242 02:05:37,364 --> 02:05:37,898 >> I will make the motion, is 4243 02:05:37,898 --> 02:05:38,999 there a second? 4244 02:05:38,999 --> 02:05:40,233 >> I second. 4245 02:05:40,233 --> 02:05:42,336 >> thank you, piser and 4246 02:05:42,336 --> 02:05:43,503 second, roll call. 4247 02:05:43,503 --> 02:05:44,637 >> vice mayor yeasting goe? 4248 02:05:44,637 --> 02:05:45,339 >> yes. 4249 02:05:45,339 --> 02:05:45,805 >> councilmember coleman? 4250 02:05:45,805 --> 02:05:46,974 >> yes. 4251 02:05:46,974 --> 02:05:47,274 Er maifrjt yor flores? 4252 02:05:47,274 --> 02:05:48,809 . 4253 02:05:48,809 --> 02:05:49,510 Inger yes. 4254 02:05:49,510 --> 02:05:51,111 >> councilmember nagales? 4255 02:05:51,111 --> 02:05:51,812 >> aye. 4256 02:05:51,812 --> 02:05:52,746 >> councilmember nicolas? 4257 02:05:52,746 --> 02:05:54,746 >> aye. 4258 02:05:58,885 --> 02:06:00,520 >> moving on to item 11 is a 4259 02:06:00,520 --> 02:06:02,122 record regarding a resolution 4260 02:06:02,122 --> 02:06:03,657 approving an increase to the 4261 02:06:03,657 --> 02:06:06,570 south san francisco toe 4262 02:06:06,293 --> 02:06:07,694 services rates to the maximum 4263 02:06:07,694 --> 02:06:09,229 allowable toeing rate that is 4264 02:06:09,229 --> 02:06:09,763 are comparable to other 4265 02:06:09,763 --> 02:06:10,864 police 4266 02:06:10,864 --> 02:06:12,332 agencies in northern san 4267 02:06:12,332 --> 02:06:12,733 mateo 4268 02:06:12,733 --> 02:06:14,602 county. 4269 02:06:14,602 --> 02:06:16,300 And 11a is the resolution. 4270 02:06:16,300 --> 02:06:16,370 >> tla's why you all are here 4271 02:06:16,370 --> 02:06:18,370 today. 4272 02:06:19,730 --> 02:06:20,407 >> thank you, good evening, 4273 02:06:20,407 --> 02:06:22,900 councilmembers, my name is 4274 02:06:22,900 --> 02:06:23,611 adam plank, one of the 4275 02:06:23,611 --> 02:06:24,311 captains with the police 4276 02:06:24,311 --> 02:06:25,246 department. 4277 02:06:25,246 --> 02:06:27,246 Tonight my presentation 4278 02:06:27,314 --> 02:06:29,916 involves an overview of the 4279 02:06:29,916 --> 02:06:31,452 city's rotational tow 4280 02:06:31,452 --> 02:06:33,120 program 4281 02:06:33,120 --> 02:06:36,720 and a request to update those 4282 02:06:36,891 --> 02:06:37,324 fees ask the industry 4283 02:06:37,324 --> 02:06:38,960 standard 4284 02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:41,361 for city ins san mateo county. 4285 02:06:41,361 --> 02:06:43,761 The police department have 4286 02:07:00,480 --> 02:07:01,182 vehicles removed from the 4287 02:07:01,182 --> 02:07:02,317 [Inaudible] Insurance 4288 02:07:02,317 --> 02:07:02,784 requirements, alcohol and 4289 02:07:02,784 --> 02:07:04,185 drug 4290 02:07:04,185 --> 02:07:06,488 testing loosing kaix of where 4291 02:07:06,488 --> 02:07:08,155 those storage lots are, 4292 02:07:08,155 --> 02:07:09,757 response times, safeguarding 4293 02:07:09,757 --> 02:07:10,924 vehicles and following the 4294 02:07:10,924 --> 02:07:12,560 maximum rates that tow 4295 02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:13,261 companies can charge for 4296 02:07:13,261 --> 02:07:13,962 police generated tows are 4297 02:07:13,962 --> 02:07:15,597 some 4298 02:07:15,597 --> 02:07:17,597 of those regulations. 4299 02:07:19,267 --> 02:07:21,100 Those regulations ensure that 4300 02:07:21,100 --> 02:07:21,670 tow companies provide safe 4301 02:07:21,670 --> 02:07:22,437 quality service to our 4302 02:07:22,437 --> 02:07:23,738 community and their vehicles 4303 02:07:23,738 --> 02:07:24,673 are accessible and within 4304 02:07:24,673 --> 02:07:27,730 secured storage facilities if 4305 02:07:27,142 --> 02:07:28,310 south san francisco. 4306 02:07:28,310 --> 02:07:28,710 A police generated tow 4307 02:07:28,710 --> 02:07:30,710 request 4308 02:07:33,800 --> 02:07:33,481 can happen for a variety of 4309 02:07:33,481 --> 02:07:35,481 reasons. 4310 02:07:35,750 --> 02:07:36,918 And those could include a 4311 02:07:36,918 --> 02:07:39,318 vehicle that's blocking a 4312 02:07:39,488 --> 02:07:41,890 roadway and cannot be safely 4313 02:07:41,890 --> 02:07:43,124 moved, certain violations of 4314 02:07:43,124 --> 02:07:43,558 the vehicle code like 4315 02:07:43,558 --> 02:07:44,459 blocking 4316 02:07:44,459 --> 02:07:46,160 someone's driveway and we're 4317 02:07:46,160 --> 02:07:47,529 unable to get a hold of that 4318 02:07:47,529 --> 02:07:48,963 owner, parking in a a posted 4319 02:07:48,963 --> 02:07:50,565 construction zone, a marked 4320 02:07:50,565 --> 02:07:50,899 tow away zone and we can't 4321 02:07:50,899 --> 02:07:52,899 get 4322 02:07:53,368 --> 02:07:55,704 a hold of those owners and 4323 02:07:55,704 --> 02:07:56,400 also when certain cases when 4324 02:07:56,400 --> 02:07:57,720 a 4325 02:07:57,720 --> 02:07:57,539 driver's arrested, the 4326 02:07:57,539 --> 02:07:58,874 vehicle 4327 02:07:58,874 --> 02:07:59,408 can't safely remain parked at 4328 02:07:59,408 --> 02:08:01,408 the scene. 4329 02:08:03,912 --> 02:08:05,547 We do make attempts to locate 4330 02:08:05,547 --> 02:08:06,815 the owner and have the 4331 02:08:06,815 --> 02:08:08,417 vehicle 4332 02:08:08,417 --> 02:08:10,886 moved prior to it being towed 4333 02:08:10,886 --> 02:08:12,187 in the crcumstances where we 4334 02:08:12,187 --> 02:08:14,456 have that ability to make 4335 02:08:14,456 --> 02:08:15,157 that 4336 02:08:15,157 --> 02:08:16,392 decision. 4337 02:08:16,392 --> 02:08:18,126 Our mximum allowable tow 4338 02:08:18,126 --> 02:08:20,329 rates have been unchanged 4339 02:08:20,329 --> 02:08:22,164 since 2016 resulting in our 4340 02:08:22,164 --> 02:08:23,765 rates being the lowest of the 4341 02:08:23,765 --> 02:08:25,367 8 jurisdictions in northern 4342 02:08:25,367 --> 02:08:27,367 san mateo county. 4343 02:08:29,380 --> 02:08:31,438 Tow companies like other 4344 02:08:31,641 --> 02:08:33,641 businesses have expressed 4345 02:08:34,760 --> 02:08:35,711 experiences with increased 4346 02:08:35,711 --> 02:08:37,313 operational costs like rent, 4347 02:08:37,313 --> 02:08:37,780 equipment, fuel, insurance 4348 02:08:37,780 --> 02:08:39,780 and 4349 02:08:40,215 --> 02:08:41,217 labor costs, per our 4350 02:08:41,217 --> 02:08:43,217 municipal 4351 02:08:43,753 --> 02:08:46,153 code, those police maximum 4352 02:08:47,256 --> 02:08:49,792 allowable tow fees can be 4353 02:08:49,792 --> 02:08:50,493 adjusted after a review from 4354 02:08:50,493 --> 02:08:51,360 the police department and 4355 02:08:51,360 --> 02:08:51,828 after speaking to a 4356 02:08:51,828 --> 02:08:53,828 designated 4357 02:08:54,630 --> 02:08:54,497 representative of those tow 4358 02:08:54,497 --> 02:08:55,899 companies. 4359 02:08:55,899 --> 02:08:58,701 And conducting a survey of 4360 02:08:58,701 --> 02:09:00,503 what the other rotational tow 4361 02:09:00,503 --> 02:09:02,903 companies in northern san 4362 02:09:03,406 --> 02:09:05,410 mateo county cities charge. 4363 02:09:05,410 --> 02:09:08,144 The current fee in south san 4364 02:09:08,144 --> 02:09:09,512 francisco for a basic tow fee 4365 02:09:09,512 --> 02:09:10,546 is $225. 4366 02:09:10,546 --> 02:09:11,947 After meeting with the 4367 02:09:11,947 --> 02:09:14,284 representative of the tow 4368 02:09:14,284 --> 02:09:16,684 companies, we conducted a 4369 02:09:19,188 --> 02:09:20,356 survey, as you can se on the 4370 02:09:20,356 --> 02:09:23,356 chart, san francisco fees are 4371 02:09:23,993 --> 02:09:26,993 the lowest of those 8 cities 4372 02:09:27,564 --> 02:09:29,866 in northern san mateo county. 4373 02:09:29,866 --> 02:09:31,668 The srvey that we conducted 4374 02:09:31,668 --> 02:09:32,200 taking south san francisco 4375 02:09:32,200 --> 02:09:34,200 out 4376 02:09:35,237 --> 02:09:36,973 showed an average of $323 per 4377 02:09:36,973 --> 02:09:37,974 tow as being the average 4378 02:09:37,974 --> 02:09:40,374 levering south san francisco 4379 02:09:40,676 --> 02:09:44,413 in as one of the 8 -- the 4380 02:09:44,413 --> 02:09:45,348 average would be $311 per tow. 4381 02:09:45,348 --> 02:09:46,983 The tow companies in addition 4382 02:09:46,983 --> 02:09:48,384 to the survey, the tow 4383 02:09:48,384 --> 02:09:49,519 companies have proposed we 4384 02:09:49,519 --> 02:09:50,454 increase the basic tow 4385 02:09:50,454 --> 02:09:52,322 service 4386 02:09:52,322 --> 02:09:54,191 fee to $325 so they remain 4387 02:09:54,191 --> 02:09:55,259 comparable to other 4388 02:09:55,259 --> 02:09:56,590 jurisdictions in northern san 4389 02:09:56,590 --> 02:09:58,590 mateo cunty. 4390 02:10:00,264 --> 02:10:03,600 On our next slide, you will 4391 02:10:03,600 --> 02:10:06,236 see what those proposed rates 4392 02:10:06,236 --> 02:10:07,771 would be and the additional 4393 02:10:07,771 --> 02:10:09,539 services that are involved in 4394 02:10:09,539 --> 02:10:11,539 towing vehicles. 4395 02:10:11,608 --> 02:10:12,843 It's important to note that 4396 02:10:12,843 --> 02:10:15,312 most vehicles only require a 4397 02:10:15,312 --> 02:10:16,120 basic tow and a basic storage 4398 02:10:16,120 --> 02:10:16,947 fee. 4399 02:10:16,947 --> 02:10:17,881 On some occassions, 4400 02:10:17,881 --> 02:10:20,281 specialized equipment lke a 4401 02:10:21,118 --> 02:10:22,987 flat bed a dolly, or a more 4402 02:10:22,987 --> 02:10:24,822 heavy duty medium sized heavy 4403 02:10:24,822 --> 02:10:27,123 duty or super duty truck are 4404 02:10:27,123 --> 02:10:29,760 needed to safely remover a 4405 02:10:29,760 --> 02:10:31,862 vehicle, a bus, a larger 4406 02:10:31,862 --> 02:10:34,862 vehicle from the safe -- 4407 02:10:35,650 --> 02:10:37,465 safely from the road. 4408 02:10:38,969 --> 02:10:40,604 On our next slide, if the 4409 02:10:40,604 --> 02:10:42,940 proposed fees were accepted 4410 02:10:42,940 --> 02:10:44,909 and approved, this would show 4411 02:10:44,909 --> 02:10:47,110 where south san francisco 4412 02:10:47,110 --> 02:10:48,412 would be with those adjusted 4413 02:10:48,412 --> 02:10:49,847 rates, it's not at the very 4414 02:10:49,847 --> 02:10:52,847 top, it's in the middle, 4415 02:10:53,170 --> 02:10:55,353 comparable with the other 4416 02:10:55,353 --> 02:10:57,221 agencies. 4417 02:10:57,221 --> 02:10:58,856 In speaking with a couple 4418 02:10:58,856 --> 02:10:59,190 other agencies in northern 4419 02:10:59,190 --> 02:11:00,258 san 4420 02:11:00,258 --> 02:11:01,893 mateo county, I learned that 4421 02:11:01,893 --> 02:11:02,260 there are other cities on 4422 02:11:02,260 --> 02:11:04,260 this 4423 02:11:05,563 --> 02:11:06,964 list that are looking to also 4424 02:11:06,964 --> 02:11:09,133 evaluate and adjust their 4425 02:11:09,133 --> 02:11:11,368 rates to keep them current 4426 02:11:11,368 --> 02:11:13,768 with the industry standard. 4427 02:11:14,138 --> 02:11:15,240 As noted in the staff report, 4428 02:11:15,240 --> 02:11:17,174 but worth mentioning tonight, 4429 02:11:17,174 --> 02:11:18,676 all all of the proposed fees 4430 02:11:18,676 --> 02:11:19,100 we're talking about do not 4431 02:11:19,100 --> 02:11:20,144 get 4432 02:11:20,144 --> 02:11:22,947 paid to the city, these are 4433 02:11:22,947 --> 02:11:24,348 paid to the tow truck 4434 02:11:24,348 --> 02:11:26,651 companies and for their 4435 02:11:26,651 --> 02:11:28,520 services in towing these 4436 02:11:28,520 --> 02:11:29,421 vehicles dependent upon the 4437 02:11:29,421 --> 02:11:31,421 circumstances. 4438 02:11:31,723 --> 02:11:33,910 So, in conclusion, the 4439 02:11:33,910 --> 02:11:34,926 rotational tow program 4440 02:11:34,926 --> 02:11:36,794 establishes a standard level 4441 02:11:36,794 --> 02:11:38,629 of service that tow companies 4442 02:11:38,629 --> 02:11:40,265 must provide, it's regulated, 4443 02:11:40,265 --> 02:11:42,334 when performing their police 4444 02:11:42,334 --> 02:11:44,402 generated tows, the maximum 4445 02:11:44,402 --> 02:11:46,938 allowable tow fees have been 4446 02:11:46,938 --> 02:11:47,873 unchanged since 2016 and 4447 02:11:47,873 --> 02:11:49,274 currently don't accurately 4448 02:11:49,274 --> 02:11:51,674 reflect the industry standard 4449 02:11:51,810 --> 02:11:52,978 for northern san mateo county. 4450 02:11:52,978 --> 02:11:54,379 It's recommended that city 4451 02:11:54,379 --> 02:11:55,781 council review and adopt the 4452 02:11:55,781 --> 02:11:57,182 proposed rate adjustments for 4453 02:11:57,182 --> 02:11:59,510 the maximum allowable fees 4454 02:11:59,510 --> 02:11:59,751 associated with police 4455 02:11:59,751 --> 02:12:01,751 generated tow services. 4456 02:12:02,287 --> 02:12:03,522 Thank you, that concludes my 4457 02:12:03,522 --> 02:12:05,522 presentation, I'm available 4458 02:12:05,557 --> 02:12:05,924 for questions and with me 4459 02:12:05,924 --> 02:12:07,250 here 4460 02:12:07,250 --> 02:12:07,826 tonight are a representative 4461 02:12:07,826 --> 02:12:08,260 from each of the tow 4462 02:12:08,260 --> 02:12:10,260 companies 4463 02:12:10,429 --> 02:12:11,496 if you have an operational 4464 02:12:11,496 --> 02:12:11,930 question or something 4465 02:12:11,930 --> 02:12:12,964 specific 4466 02:12:12,964 --> 02:12:14,990 that I wouldn't be able to 4467 02:12:14,990 --> 02:12:16,990 answer for you. 4468 02:12:16,234 --> 02:12:16,702 >> thank you, captain plank, 4469 02:12:16,702 --> 02:12:17,636 I 4470 02:12:17,636 --> 02:12:19,636 appreciate the presentation. 4471 02:12:21,506 --> 02:12:22,641 Any questions? 4472 02:12:22,641 --> 02:12:24,243 Councilmember nagales? 4473 02:12:24,243 --> 02:12:26,780 >> thank you. 4474 02:12:26,780 --> 02:12:27,479 I appreciate kind of just 4475 02:12:27,479 --> 02:12:28,614 understanding what the actual 4476 02:12:28,614 --> 02:12:29,140 increase is ging to be 4477 02:12:29,140 --> 02:12:31,140 paying 4478 02:12:32,451 --> 02:12:34,186 for because I wasn't quite 4479 02:12:34,186 --> 02:12:35,588 sure, like, I was looking at 4480 02:12:35,588 --> 02:12:36,755 it like, okay, aren't we 4481 02:12:36,755 --> 02:12:39,755 getting a better deal by 4482 02:12:40,860 --> 02:12:42,610 paying less I terms of the 4483 02:12:42,610 --> 02:12:43,429 rate but you answered the 4484 02:12:43,429 --> 02:12:44,530 question for me. 4485 02:12:44,530 --> 02:12:46,198 So, when someone goes in, I 4486 02:12:46,198 --> 02:12:47,600 want to understand the fees 4487 02:12:47,600 --> 02:12:49,234 here, so what you're asking 4488 02:12:49,234 --> 02:12:52,605 for the basic tow fees is 4489 02:12:52,605 --> 02:12:54,140 going to be 325 now, the 4490 02:12:54,140 --> 02:12:54,706 person would come in and pay 4491 02:12:54,706 --> 02:12:56,374 for that. 4492 02:12:56,374 --> 02:12:57,509 There was something about an 4493 02:12:57,509 --> 02:12:59,377 administrative fee on the 4494 02:12:59,377 --> 02:13:00,713 bottom of the attachment b, 4495 02:13:00,713 --> 02:13:01,247 there was an administrative 4496 02:13:01,247 --> 02:13:02,982 fee? 4497 02:13:02,982 --> 02:13:03,415 >> yes, on the bottom of the 4498 02:13:03,415 --> 02:13:04,170 tow form? 4499 02:13:04,170 --> 02:13:06,170 >> yes. 4500 02:13:08,200 --> 02:13:09,955 >> yes, that is a south city 4501 02:13:09,955 --> 02:13:11,724 of south san francisco fee 4502 02:13:11,724 --> 02:13:14,594 that's in our master fee 4503 02:13:14,594 --> 02:13:15,280 schedule for the processing 4504 02:13:15,280 --> 02:13:16,628 of 4505 02:13:16,628 --> 02:13:18,640 paperwork, the mailing of 4506 02:13:18,640 --> 02:13:21,640 notices when a vehicle gets 4507 02:13:22,100 --> 02:13:23,169 towed to the registered 4508 02:13:23,169 --> 02:13:25,138 owner, that's the 4509 02:13:25,138 --> 02:13:27,538 administrative costs that are 4510 02:13:27,640 --> 02:13:28,942 paid to the police department 4511 02:13:28,942 --> 02:13:31,342 when there's a police 4512 02:13:31,744 --> 02:13:33,246 generated tow. 4513 02:13:33,246 --> 02:13:34,647 >> so I want to get that 4514 02:13:34,647 --> 02:13:36,490 process correct, when 4515 02:13:36,490 --> 02:13:39,490 someone's car gets towed, not 4516 02:13:39,185 --> 02:13:40,787 only are they paying 4517 02:13:40,787 --> 02:13:41,154 potentially a $325 towing 4518 02:13:41,154 --> 02:13:43,154 fee, 4519 02:13:43,156 --> 02:13:43,890 but now they're paying this 4520 02:13:43,890 --> 02:13:44,758 administrative fee as well? 4521 02:13:44,758 --> 02:13:46,758 >> yes, that's correct. 4522 02:13:47,294 --> 02:13:47,661 And that's a vehicle release 4523 02:13:47,661 --> 02:13:49,529 fee. 4524 02:13:49,529 --> 02:13:49,829 >> which is $160 now. 4525 02:13:49,829 --> 02:13:51,829 Er 4526 02:13:52,566 --> 02:13:54,201 >> yes, it is. 4527 02:13:54,201 --> 02:13:54,634 >> okay, has there been a 4528 02:13:54,634 --> 02:13:56,269 time 4529 02:13:56,269 --> 02:13:56,603 when an individual has come 4530 02:13:56,603 --> 02:13:58,380 to 4531 02:13:58,380 --> 02:14:00,373 the towing company and sy I 4532 02:14:00,373 --> 02:14:00,740 can't pay for these fees, 4533 02:14:00,740 --> 02:14:01,308 it's 4534 02:14:01,308 --> 02:14:02,476 too high. 4535 02:14:02,476 --> 02:14:05,579 Is there like a payment plan 4536 02:14:05,579 --> 02:14:06,846 that a person can do in terms 4537 02:14:06,846 --> 02:14:09,215 of trying to release the 4538 02:14:09,215 --> 02:14:10,150 vehicle? 4539 02:14:10,150 --> 02:14:10,617 >> in speaking to at least 4540 02:14:10,617 --> 02:14:12,617 one 4541 02:14:13,987 --> 02:14:15,322 of the companies, they did 4542 02:14:15,322 --> 02:14:15,688 express an option case by 4543 02:14:15,688 --> 02:14:16,590 case 4544 02:14:16,590 --> 02:14:18,990 based on the circumstances 4545 02:14:19,426 --> 02:14:23,260 where a payment plan might be 4546 02:14:23,230 --> 02:14:25,332 an option but it's also 4547 02:14:25,332 --> 02:14:27,133 somewhat o a risky option if 4548 02:14:27,133 --> 02:14:28,569 the vhicle is being released 4549 02:14:28,569 --> 02:14:30,304 and there's an agreement that 4550 02:14:30,304 --> 02:14:32,304 doesn't get fulfilled. 4551 02:14:34,400 --> 02:14:34,807 >> now, the person's already 4552 02:14:34,807 --> 02:14:36,377 being penalized already, and 4553 02:14:36,377 --> 02:14:37,744 for those who are potentially 4554 02:14:37,744 --> 02:14:39,146 low income and having a 4555 02:14:39,146 --> 02:14:40,781 difficult time paying for 4556 02:14:40,781 --> 02:14:41,248 these fees, a lot of the 4557 02:14:41,248 --> 02:14:42,416 folks 4558 02:14:42,416 --> 02:14:45,452 rely on their vehicle to get 4559 02:14:45,452 --> 02:14:48,989 to work or to get to point a 4560 02:14:48,989 --> 02:14:49,390 to point b, so I'm just 4561 02:14:49,390 --> 02:14:50,390 trying 4562 02:14:50,390 --> 02:14:50,791 to understand what the 4563 02:14:50,791 --> 02:14:52,791 process 4564 02:14:52,893 --> 02:14:53,894 is in terms of if someone is 4565 02:14:53,894 --> 02:14:54,294 having a difficult time 4566 02:14:54,294 --> 02:14:54,996 paying 4567 02:14:54,996 --> 02:14:56,397 for it. 4568 02:14:56,397 --> 02:14:58,232 If the person can't pay for 4569 02:14:58,232 --> 02:15:00,167 it, the car is going to be in 4570 02:15:00,167 --> 02:15:03,167 storage and now they can't 4571 02:15:03,204 --> 02:15:04,772 travel, you know or I guess 4572 02:15:04,772 --> 02:15:05,772 they have to take public 4573 02:15:05,772 --> 02:15:08,772 transportation in this case z. 4574 02:15:09,143 --> 02:15:11,110 >> from speak toing the tow 4575 02:15:11,110 --> 02:15:11,679 companies, the tow fee and 4576 02:15:11,679 --> 02:15:13,679 any 4577 02:15:13,881 --> 02:15:15,881 associated storage fees 4578 02:15:16,751 --> 02:15:18,152 usually isn't the hurdle that 4579 02:15:18,152 --> 02:15:21,989 needs to get over in order to 4580 02:15:21,989 --> 02:15:24,580 get the car out. 4581 02:15:24,580 --> 02:15:24,659 Oftentimes, there is 4582 02:15:24,659 --> 02:15:26,160 associated expired 4583 02:15:26,160 --> 02:15:28,662 registration fee that is are 4584 02:15:28,662 --> 02:15:30,531 owed to dmv that ae required 4585 02:15:30,531 --> 02:15:31,232 to be paid in current prior 4586 02:15:31,232 --> 02:15:32,166 to 4587 02:15:32,166 --> 02:15:32,600 getting thing vehicle 4588 02:15:32,600 --> 02:15:34,600 released 4589 02:15:34,936 --> 02:15:37,336 and back to them. 4590 02:15:39,173 --> 02:15:40,108 Also if there are other 4591 02:15:40,108 --> 02:15:41,642 circumstances, a driver's 4592 02:15:41,642 --> 02:15:43,844 license if the registered 4593 02:15:43,844 --> 02:15:45,113 owner has a a dmv issue that 4594 02:15:45,113 --> 02:15:46,114 needs to be corrected, there 4595 02:15:46,114 --> 02:15:49,114 might be something that needs 4596 02:15:49,116 --> 02:15:51,185 to be handled at dmv prior to 4597 02:15:51,185 --> 02:15:52,854 going to the tow to address 4598 02:15:52,854 --> 02:15:55,357 the basic fee and storage. 4599 02:15:55,357 --> 02:15:56,791 >> thank you for answering 4600 02:15:56,791 --> 02:15:57,959 that, I wonder if this is a a 4601 02:15:57,959 --> 02:15:58,360 hindrance in trying to 4602 02:15:58,360 --> 02:16:00,294 release 4603 02:16:00,294 --> 02:16:00,762 the vehicle, but it sound 4604 02:16:00,762 --> 02:16:02,397 like 4605 02:16:02,397 --> 02:16:04,499 that's not the main issue. 4606 02:16:04,499 --> 02:16:05,934 Are they located in south san 4607 02:16:05,934 --> 02:16:07,535 francisco, these three 4608 02:16:07,535 --> 02:16:09,535 companies? 4609 02:16:11,606 --> 02:16:13,509 >> bob junior's is located on 4610 02:16:13,509 --> 02:16:16,509 south linden, action tow has 4611 02:16:16,944 --> 02:16:19,281 an office on north canal -- 4612 02:16:19,281 --> 02:16:22,500 south canal and courtesy tow, 4613 02:16:22,500 --> 02:16:23,418 I'm drawing a blank. 4614 02:16:23,418 --> 02:16:23,785 On montgomery avenue jst 4615 02:16:23,785 --> 02:16:24,820 into 4616 02:16:24,820 --> 02:16:26,820 san bruno. 4617 02:16:27,656 --> 02:16:28,560 >> that means the fast 4618 02:16:28,560 --> 02:16:29,580 service 4619 02:16:29,580 --> 02:16:30,926 service when we need tem. 4620 02:16:30,926 --> 02:16:31,660 >> which is one of the 4621 02:16:31,660 --> 02:16:32,794 requirements, either within 4622 02:16:32,794 --> 02:16:33,895 south san francisco or a 4623 02:16:33,895 --> 02:16:34,263 certain distance from our 4624 02:16:34,263 --> 02:16:36,263 city 4625 02:16:36,498 --> 02:16:38,600 limit that is allows anyone 4626 02:16:38,600 --> 02:16:39,767 who's having their car towed 4627 02:16:39,767 --> 02:16:42,700 from our police department 4628 02:16:42,700 --> 02:16:44,470 doesn't have to travel 4629 02:16:44,740 --> 02:16:45,874 multiple cities away or be 4630 02:16:45,874 --> 02:16:46,609 inconvenienced in order to 4631 02:16:46,609 --> 02:16:48,210 access their car. 4632 02:16:48,210 --> 02:16:48,844 >> okay, thank you, I'm fine 4633 02:16:48,844 --> 02:16:49,278 with this now. 4634 02:16:49,278 --> 02:16:50,713 Thank you. 4635 02:16:50,713 --> 02:16:52,713 >> thank you. 4636 02:16:53,480 --> 02:16:54,683 Other questions? 4637 02:16:54,683 --> 02:16:56,683 Go ahead, COUNCILWOMAN. 4638 02:16:56,752 --> 02:16:59,288 >> captain plank, if a a car 4639 02:16:59,288 --> 02:17:01,657 is towed not because of te 4640 02:17:01,657 --> 02:17:02,570 owner's fault, say for 4641 02:17:02,570 --> 02:17:03,759 example 4642 02:17:03,759 --> 02:17:05,127 it's been car napped and 4643 02:17:05,127 --> 02:17:07,897 vandalized and it didn't get 4644 02:17:07,897 --> 02:17:10,232 to an owner until sometime 4645 02:17:10,232 --> 02:17:11,667 later, how -- are they still 4646 02:17:11,667 --> 02:17:12,301 liable to pay for all those 4647 02:17:12,301 --> 02:17:14,301 charges? 4648 02:17:17,539 --> 02:17:19,141 >> if a vehicle is recovered 4649 02:17:19,141 --> 02:17:19,808 stolen vehicle, if the 4650 02:17:19,808 --> 02:17:20,209 registered owner is the 4651 02:17:20,209 --> 02:17:21,577 victim 4652 02:17:21,577 --> 02:17:21,911 of a crime and it's towed as 4653 02:17:21,911 --> 02:17:23,911 a 4654 02:17:24,413 --> 02:17:27,417 result of that crime, our fee 4655 02:17:27,417 --> 02:17:30,417 at the police department can 4656 02:17:32,540 --> 02:17:33,456 be wavered by us vered -- 4657 02:17:33,456 --> 02:17:33,956 wavered by us under those 4658 02:17:33,956 --> 02:17:35,900 circumstances. 4659 02:17:35,900 --> 02:17:36,960 The other fee that is are 4660 02:17:36,960 --> 02:17:37,427 assessed by the tow 4661 02:17:37,427 --> 02:17:38,361 companies, 4662 02:17:38,361 --> 02:17:38,794 if there's isurance 4663 02:17:38,794 --> 02:17:40,794 involved, 4664 02:17:41,164 --> 02:17:43,320 whether it's triple a or some 4665 02:17:43,320 --> 02:17:44,667 other type of insurance that 4666 02:17:44,667 --> 02:17:45,350 has coverage on whatever 4667 02:17:45,350 --> 02:17:45,734 other 4668 02:17:45,734 --> 02:17:46,102 circumstances happened, I 4669 02:17:46,102 --> 02:17:48,102 know 4670 02:17:48,671 --> 02:17:51,207 that that is an option for 4671 02:17:51,207 --> 02:17:51,941 what was described to me as a 4672 02:17:51,941 --> 02:17:53,309 reimbursement from those 4673 02:17:53,309 --> 02:17:54,778 companies, maybe an upfront 4674 02:17:54,778 --> 02:17:56,812 charge with the insurance 4675 02:17:56,812 --> 02:17:58,348 reimbursing at a later time, 4676 02:17:58,348 --> 02:17:59,816 but more specifically I might 4677 02:17:59,816 --> 02:18:02,840 need to refer to one of the 4678 02:18:02,840 --> 02:18:05,840 tow companies for how the 4679 02:18:07,357 --> 02:18:08,558 processing of the transaction 4680 02:18:08,558 --> 02:18:10,393 would be. 4681 02:18:10,393 --> 02:18:12,262 >> could we hve them come up 4682 02:18:12,262 --> 02:18:15,262 and give us the scenario 4683 02:18:17,634 --> 02:18:18,335 please, if you don't mind. 4684 02:18:18,335 --> 02:18:20,335 Good evening, welcome. 4685 02:18:21,104 --> 02:18:21,438 >> my name is brian banks, 4686 02:18:21,438 --> 02:18:23,438 the 4687 02:18:24,740 --> 02:18:25,475 opener of action towing. 4688 02:18:25,475 --> 02:18:27,770 So, probably 95% of the tows 4689 02:18:27,770 --> 02:18:27,544 that we are doing are 4690 02:18:27,544 --> 02:18:29,544 normally 4691 02:18:29,645 --> 02:18:30,480 not the situation you're 4692 02:18:30,480 --> 02:18:30,847 describing, they're only 4693 02:18:30,847 --> 02:18:32,115 about 4694 02:18:32,115 --> 02:18:33,617 5% of the tows we're doing. 4695 02:18:33,617 --> 02:18:33,984 The majority of the tows 4696 02:18:33,984 --> 02:18:35,485 we're 4697 02:18:35,485 --> 02:18:37,354 doing are people that have 4698 02:18:37,354 --> 02:18:39,456 violated laws, have not paid 4699 02:18:39,456 --> 02:18:40,824 their registrations, are 4700 02:18:40,824 --> 02:18:42,259 driving without driver's 4701 02:18:42,259 --> 02:18:44,828 licenses and in some cases 4702 02:18:44,828 --> 02:18:46,897 many of the cases the cars 4703 02:18:46,897 --> 02:18:47,898 we're towing, probably 50% of 4704 02:18:47,898 --> 02:18:48,264 the cases we're doing in 4705 02:18:48,264 --> 02:18:50,167 south 4706 02:18:50,167 --> 02:18:50,601 san francisco is abandoned 4707 02:18:50,601 --> 02:18:52,690 vehicles. 4708 02:18:52,690 --> 02:18:53,938 So, it MAY seem like a lot of 4709 02:18:53,938 --> 02:18:54,872 money to you guys as you're 4710 02:18:54,872 --> 02:18:55,239 processing this, what you 4711 02:18:55,239 --> 02:18:56,740 need 4712 02:18:56,740 --> 02:18:58,374 to understand is that more 4713 02:18:58,374 --> 02:19:00,774 than 50% of these vehicles, 4714 02:19:00,911 --> 02:19:02,546 probably more like 65 or 70 4715 02:19:02,546 --> 02:19:03,613 percent of these vehicles are 4716 02:19:03,613 --> 02:19:05,316 never being picked up. 4717 02:19:05,316 --> 02:19:05,750 You guys have done a 4718 02:19:05,750 --> 02:19:06,917 wonderful 4719 02:19:06,917 --> 02:19:07,251 job in south san francisco 4720 02:19:07,251 --> 02:19:08,819 and 4721 02:19:08,819 --> 02:19:09,754 being here tonight, this is 4722 02:19:09,754 --> 02:19:11,622 amazing and beautiful and 4723 02:19:11,622 --> 02:19:13,457 we're doing our part to help 4724 02:19:13,457 --> 02:19:15,326 keep your streets clean. 4725 02:19:15,326 --> 02:19:15,626 So, what we're asking for is 4726 02:19:15,626 --> 02:19:16,726 a 4727 02:19:16,726 --> 02:19:18,362 rate increase because of the 4728 02:19:18,362 --> 02:19:19,730 fact that our businesses, 4729 02:19:19,730 --> 02:19:21,132 you've heard it from your 4730 02:19:21,132 --> 02:19:22,660 planning department and 4731 02:19:22,660 --> 02:19:24,168 everybody else, things have 4732 02:19:24,168 --> 02:19:26,470 gone through the roof. 4733 02:19:26,470 --> 02:19:28,572 Metal for us is at a 7 year 4734 02:19:28,572 --> 02:19:29,941 low and so that's how we get 4735 02:19:29,941 --> 02:19:31,174 paid for these vehicle, 4736 02:19:31,174 --> 02:19:32,743 sometimes we might tow a car 4737 02:19:32,743 --> 02:19:34,579 where we have a driver goes 4738 02:19:34,579 --> 02:19:35,980 out and tows it, he's on the 4739 02:19:35,980 --> 02:19:38,649 job for an hour and a half, 4740 02:19:38,649 --> 02:19:40,180 two hours, we have to pay a 4741 02:19:40,180 --> 02:19:41,186 lien sale fee, we have to 4742 02:19:41,186 --> 02:19:41,886 store this vehicle for 4743 02:19:41,886 --> 02:19:43,886 upwards 4744 02:19:44,540 --> 02:19:45,423 of some cases, anywhere will 4745 02:19:45,423 --> 02:19:47,524 be a quick one will be 30 day 4746 02:19:47,524 --> 02:19:49,127 and is a long one will be 6 4747 02:19:49,127 --> 02:19:50,494 months, we're stringing in a 4748 02:19:50,494 --> 02:19:50,894 building, rents are not 4749 02:19:50,894 --> 02:19:52,894 cheap, 4750 02:19:53,331 --> 02:19:55,433 we discussed what it is a 4751 02:19:55,433 --> 02:19:58,433 square foot, especially for a 4752 02:19:58,603 --> 02:19:58,937 warehouse so, the expenses 4753 02:19:58,937 --> 02:20:00,438 are 4754 02:20:00,438 --> 02:20:01,639 enormous and most of the 4755 02:20:01,639 --> 02:20:03,274 vehicles are not being picked 4756 02:20:03,274 --> 02:20:04,209 up websinger eve seen 4757 02:20:04,209 --> 02:20:04,542 inflation of our equipment 4758 02:20:04,542 --> 02:20:06,542 has 4759 02:20:07,445 --> 02:20:08,613 gone up over 30% to buy a new 4760 02:20:08,613 --> 02:20:11,613 tow truck, our insurance is 4761 02:20:11,615 --> 02:20:13,484 going up on average just like 4762 02:20:13,484 --> 02:20:15,120 yours, I'm insurance on your 4763 02:20:15,120 --> 02:20:17,689 homes 20% a year tha,'s the 4764 02:20:17,689 --> 02:20:19,291 facts of what's going on, all 4765 02:20:19,291 --> 02:20:21,159 of these expenses are goipg 4766 02:20:21,159 --> 02:20:21,560 up, we're not trying to 4767 02:20:21,560 --> 02:20:23,495 punish 4768 02:20:23,495 --> 02:20:25,363 -- it looks like a lot of 4769 02:20:25,363 --> 02:20:26,231 money but we're not trying to 4770 02:20:26,231 --> 02:20:26,564 punish good people, we have 4771 02:20:26,564 --> 02:20:27,660 to 4772 02:20:27,660 --> 02:20:27,632 pay for the s 4773 02:20:27,632 --> 02:20:29,100 frs we provide 4774 02:20:29,100 --> 02:20:30,301 for the city and keeping your 4775 02:20:30,301 --> 02:20:30,668 streets clean s you guys 4776 02:20:30,668 --> 02:20:31,903 will 4777 02:20:31,903 --> 02:20:33,710 continue to mover forward and 4778 02:20:33,710 --> 02:20:33,538 have this beautiful city 4779 02:20:33,538 --> 02:20:35,538 where 4780 02:20:35,574 --> 02:20:37,242 people want to develop 4781 02:20:37,242 --> 02:20:38,343 apartment and is buildings 4782 02:20:38,343 --> 02:20:39,611 and 4783 02:20:39,611 --> 02:20:39,978 do business here, so the 4784 02:20:39,978 --> 02:20:41,978 other 4785 02:20:42,130 --> 02:20:44,183 answer to your question is 4786 02:20:44,183 --> 02:20:44,650 those 5%, most of those 4787 02:20:44,650 --> 02:20:45,384 people 4788 02:20:45,384 --> 02:20:45,784 do have insurance, like if 4789 02:20:45,784 --> 02:20:47,186 you 4790 02:20:47,186 --> 02:20:49,288 were in an accident and the 4791 02:20:49,288 --> 02:20:50,254 people that hit you did not 4792 02:20:50,254 --> 02:20:50,622 have insurance, you would 4793 02:20:50,622 --> 02:20:52,257 lean 4794 02:20:52,257 --> 02:20:54,660 on your insurance on that, if 4795 02:20:54,660 --> 02:20:56,762 there's accident and is your 4796 02:20:56,762 --> 02:20:57,162 car is stolen, the good 4797 02:20:57,162 --> 02:20:58,330 people 4798 02:20:58,330 --> 02:20:59,598 seem to pay the fees for the 4799 02:20:59,598 --> 02:21:00,999 bad people and there's no 4800 02:21:00,999 --> 02:21:02,134 other way around that but 4801 02:21:02,134 --> 02:21:03,535 providing they have good 4802 02:21:03,535 --> 02:21:05,938 insurance and follow the laws 4803 02:21:05,938 --> 02:21:07,339 that they have, normally the 4804 02:21:07,339 --> 02:21:08,307 insurance will come ad 4805 02:21:08,307 --> 02:21:10,442 reimburse them for their 4806 02:21:10,442 --> 02:21:12,440 expense and is most of the 4807 02:21:12,440 --> 02:21:14,346 time the insurance picks them 4808 02:21:14,346 --> 02:21:15,981 up, the people who do pick 4809 02:21:15,981 --> 02:21:18,981 them up primarily are the 4810 02:21:19,986 --> 02:21:21,821 people that have dui's, 4811 02:21:21,821 --> 02:21:23,923 expired reds, driving on a 4812 02:21:23,923 --> 02:21:26,323 suspended license, not good 4813 02:21:28,961 --> 02:21:29,294 behavior they're being pun 4814 02:21:29,294 --> 02:21:30,329 -- 4815 02:21:30,329 --> 02:21:30,663 punished for a reason, this 4816 02:21:30,663 --> 02:21:32,663 is 4817 02:21:33,320 --> 02:21:34,634 another part of a punishment, 4818 02:21:34,634 --> 02:21:36,340 that's why we're asking for 4819 02:21:36,340 --> 02:21:38,136 more money, for the obvious 4820 02:21:38,136 --> 02:21:39,539 expenses we have, we've been 4821 02:21:39,539 --> 02:21:41,107 good partners to the city for 4822 02:21:41,107 --> 02:21:42,542 a long time, we asked for a 4823 02:21:42,542 --> 02:21:43,943 long period of time for 4824 02:21:43,943 --> 02:21:46,779 raises, ask you guys have 4825 02:21:46,779 --> 02:21:47,146 worked for us but we feel 4826 02:21:47,146 --> 02:21:48,614 this 4827 02:21:48,614 --> 02:21:49,810 is necessary, we hope you 4828 02:21:49,810 --> 02:21:50,116 take 4829 02:21:50,116 --> 02:21:51,451 this into consideration what 4830 02:21:51,451 --> 02:21:53,851 we're asking for tonight. 4831 02:21:55,588 --> 02:21:56,990 >> my name is steven, I'm 4832 02:21:56,990 --> 02:21:57,924 with 4833 02:21:57,924 --> 02:21:59,993 bob junior towing, we eer 4834 02:21:59,993 --> 02:22:02,128 been around a long time here 4835 02:22:02,128 --> 02:22:03,797 and bryan pretty much said 4836 02:22:03,797 --> 02:22:06,197 what's happening with our 4837 02:22:07,132 --> 02:22:07,967 towing companies and there's 4838 02:22:07,967 --> 02:22:08,300 two different entities when 4839 02:22:08,300 --> 02:22:10,300 it 4840 02:22:12,472 --> 02:22:15,909 comes to the towing, we want 4841 02:22:15,909 --> 02:22:17,430 to take care of the people 4842 02:22:17,430 --> 02:22:18,444 within south san francisco as 4843 02:22:18,444 --> 02:22:20,513 well as te people that are 4844 02:22:20,513 --> 02:22:23,490 coming through the city as 4845 02:22:23,490 --> 02:22:26,190 well and when we do that, it 4846 02:22:26,190 --> 02:22:26,352 is not easy for them, what 4847 02:22:26,352 --> 02:22:27,854 you 4848 02:22:27,854 --> 02:22:29,489 were saying, how do you pay 4849 02:22:29,489 --> 02:22:29,856 for it and what do you do 4850 02:22:29,856 --> 02:22:31,492 when 4851 02:22:31,492 --> 02:22:31,858 they come to you and all 4852 02:22:31,858 --> 02:22:33,858 those 4853 02:22:35,294 --> 02:22:36,296 types of things. 4854 02:22:36,296 --> 02:22:36,663 It's a tough situation we 4855 02:22:36,663 --> 02:22:37,864 have 4856 02:22:37,864 --> 02:22:38,598 to go through and every 4857 02:22:38,598 --> 02:22:38,932 scenario is different than 4858 02:22:38,932 --> 02:22:40,932 the 4859 02:22:41,601 --> 02:22:43,737 other one and we take a look 4860 02:22:43,737 --> 02:22:44,904 at each and every individual 4861 02:22:44,904 --> 02:22:46,206 within this city and also 4862 02:22:46,206 --> 02:22:47,474 outside the city when they 4863 02:22:47,474 --> 02:22:49,760 come here. 4864 02:22:49,760 --> 02:22:51,178 And it's a tough decision on 4865 02:22:51,178 --> 02:22:52,713 our end to make that decision 4866 02:22:52,713 --> 02:22:53,180 on how we're going to do this 4867 02:22:53,180 --> 02:22:55,180 with them. 4868 02:22:56,817 --> 02:22:59,653 We want to do it in a really 4869 02:22:59,653 --> 02:23:00,821 -- the expenses of this, it's 4870 02:23:00,821 --> 02:23:02,890 really expensive for them to 4871 02:23:02,890 --> 02:23:03,824 get the car released, go to 4872 02:23:03,824 --> 02:23:04,191 the police department and 4873 02:23:04,191 --> 02:23:06,191 have 4874 02:23:06,460 --> 02:23:08,462 that done as well, go to the 4875 02:23:08,462 --> 02:23:09,663 dmv, by the time they come 4876 02:23:09,663 --> 02:23:11,632 tows, they're pretty upset so 4877 02:23:11,632 --> 02:23:12,650 we want to make it as 4878 02:23:12,650 --> 02:23:13,434 pleasant 4879 02:23:13,434 --> 02:23:15,435 as we can for these folks and 4880 02:23:15,435 --> 02:23:16,604 make it to where they could e 4881 02:23:16,604 --> 02:23:16,937 either afford to get their 4882 02:23:16,937 --> 02:23:18,239 car 4883 02:23:18,239 --> 02:23:19,907 out, if not, then we have to 4884 02:23:19,907 --> 02:23:21,742 look at different options and 4885 02:23:21,742 --> 02:23:22,710 a lot of times the different 4886 02:23:22,710 --> 02:23:24,812 options that they don't come 4887 02:23:24,812 --> 02:23:26,460 to get their cars out, so 4888 02:23:26,460 --> 02:23:27,548 we're stuck with that. 4889 02:23:27,548 --> 02:23:29,817 We have to process the 4890 02:23:29,817 --> 02:23:32,620 vehicles like he was saying 4891 02:23:32,620 --> 02:23:34,188 and it's a low time with the 4892 02:23:34,188 --> 02:23:36,757 junk industry and all those 4893 02:23:36,757 --> 02:23:38,459 types of things and it's 4894 02:23:38,459 --> 02:23:38,893 getting tougher to do 4895 02:23:38,893 --> 02:23:40,361 business 4896 02:23:40,361 --> 02:23:42,361 with that. 4897 02:23:42,696 --> 02:23:44,640 It's pretty much what brian 4898 02:23:44,640 --> 02:23:45,233 was saying, the cost of the 4899 02:23:45,233 --> 02:23:46,167 rents and the insurance and 4900 02:23:46,167 --> 02:23:47,568 stuff like that. 4901 02:23:47,568 --> 02:23:47,934 >> thank you, I appreciate 4902 02:23:47,934 --> 02:23:49,934 that. 4903 02:23:50,538 --> 02:23:52,538 >> thank you. 4904 02:23:53,740 --> 02:23:55,410 >> good evening, my name is 4905 02:23:55,410 --> 02:23:57,478 gino with courtesy tow and it 4906 02:23:57,478 --> 02:23:58,880 pretty much sums it up, what 4907 02:23:58,880 --> 02:24:01,820 my other two colleagues have 4908 02:24:01,820 --> 02:24:02,917 said, insurance costs are 4909 02:24:02,917 --> 02:24:04,985 through the roof, prices of 4910 02:24:04,985 --> 02:24:06,387 newer trucks ask newer 4911 02:24:06,387 --> 02:24:08,787 equipment to stay doing 4912 02:24:09,290 --> 02:24:11,690 business in california, the 4913 02:24:12,761 --> 02:24:13,928 regulations of the def 4914 02:24:13,928 --> 02:24:15,530 regulations, retiring old 4915 02:24:15,530 --> 02:24:17,398 trucks, having to buy new 4916 02:24:17,398 --> 02:24:17,732 equipment, having to invest 4917 02:24:17,732 --> 02:24:19,267 in 4918 02:24:19,267 --> 02:24:21,267 new equipment, driver 4919 02:24:22,604 --> 02:24:24,604 education, safety programs, 4920 02:24:25,607 --> 02:24:28,700 workers compensation, it all 4921 02:24:28,543 --> 02:24:29,711 costs, so we expect cities 4922 02:24:29,711 --> 02:24:31,279 that we do business with to 4923 02:24:31,279 --> 02:24:31,780 kind of stay as competitive 4924 02:24:31,780 --> 02:24:32,481 as 4925 02:24:32,481 --> 02:24:34,481 possible. 4926 02:24:38,190 --> 02:24:39,154 It is unfortunate like my 4927 02:24:39,154 --> 02:24:40,988 colleagues said but the 4928 02:24:40,988 --> 02:24:43,988 insurance per truck per year 4929 02:24:44,125 --> 02:24:45,293 is 25 to 30 thousand dollars 4930 02:24:45,293 --> 02:24:46,894 per truck per year 4931 02:24:46,894 --> 02:24:47,963 televising's not many 4932 02:24:47,963 --> 02:24:49,464 companies souring, it's hard 4933 02:24:49,464 --> 02:24:52,134 to do business in california 4934 02:24:52,134 --> 02:24:52,901 bottom line and it's 4935 02:24:52,901 --> 02:24:53,234 unfortunate to say that but 4936 02:24:53,234 --> 02:24:54,502 we 4937 02:24:54,502 --> 02:24:54,903 have to stay with what's 4938 02:24:54,903 --> 02:24:56,804 working. 4939 02:24:56,804 --> 02:24:58,306 >> thank you. 4940 02:24:58,306 --> 02:24:58,907 >> any questions to the 4941 02:24:58,907 --> 02:25:00,907 operators? 4942 02:25:01,510 --> 02:25:02,444 >> the last time we loked at 4943 02:25:02,444 --> 02:25:04,444 this was 2016? 4944 02:25:04,579 --> 02:25:06,682 >> yes, that is correct. 4945 02:25:06,682 --> 02:25:07,140 >> so, are they willing to 4946 02:25:07,140 --> 02:25:09,140 not 4947 02:25:11,186 --> 02:25:12,354 come back for another 9 -- 8 4948 02:25:12,354 --> 02:25:13,988 years? 4949 02:25:13,988 --> 02:25:14,455 >> I wuld like to make a 4950 02:25:14,455 --> 02:25:16,570 suggestion. 4951 02:25:16,570 --> 02:25:17,693 I don't know if you guys are 4952 02:25:17,693 --> 02:25:18,394 open to this or not, with 4953 02:25:18,394 --> 02:25:19,929 most 4954 02:25:19,929 --> 02:25:21,290 agencies, we renew on an 4955 02:25:21,290 --> 02:25:22,310 annual basis and one of the 4956 02:25:22,310 --> 02:25:22,397 things I would suggest if 4957 02:25:22,397 --> 02:25:23,765 it's 4958 02:25:23,765 --> 02:25:25,367 possible and it's not too 4959 02:25:25,367 --> 02:25:25,734 late, we put some sort of 4960 02:25:25,734 --> 02:25:27,670 cola 4961 02:25:27,670 --> 02:25:28,370 in this for the district 4962 02:25:28,370 --> 02:25:29,839 we're 4963 02:25:29,839 --> 02:25:30,539 in, a cost of living 4964 02:25:30,539 --> 02:25:32,174 increase, 4965 02:25:32,174 --> 02:25:33,775 I think that -- if that was 4966 02:25:33,775 --> 02:25:34,210 the case, there would 4967 02:25:34,210 --> 02:25:35,277 probably 4968 02:25:35,277 --> 02:25:36,679 be no reason we would have to 4969 02:25:36,679 --> 02:25:40,249 come back and see you guys, I 4970 02:25:40,249 --> 02:25:42,484 think it's fair based on a 4971 02:25:42,484 --> 02:25:43,252 market value of what's going 4972 02:25:43,252 --> 02:25:44,190 on and the county we live in. 4973 02:25:44,190 --> 02:25:44,753 If we could do something like 4974 02:25:44,753 --> 02:25:45,870 that, I think it will save 4975 02:25:45,870 --> 02:25:47,870 you 4976 02:25:48,491 --> 02:25:50,359 guys 20 minutes of your time 4977 02:25:50,359 --> 02:25:51,293 fiver years from now we come 4978 02:25:51,293 --> 02:25:51,694 crying, I don't know if 4979 02:25:51,694 --> 02:25:52,194 that's 4980 02:25:52,194 --> 02:25:53,796 a possibility. 4981 02:25:53,796 --> 02:25:54,130 >> any other questions for 4982 02:25:54,130 --> 02:25:55,310 the 4983 02:25:55,310 --> 02:25:55,964 operators? 4984 02:25:55,964 --> 02:25:57,964 >> captain plank? 4985 02:25:58,334 --> 02:26:00,536 >> so, when we have a problem 4986 02:26:00,536 --> 02:26:02,337 on the street and we have 4987 02:26:02,337 --> 02:26:03,390 three operator, we rotate but 4988 02:26:03,390 --> 02:26:03,473 maybe somebody's not 4989 02:26:03,473 --> 02:26:04,474 available 4990 02:26:04,474 --> 02:26:06,109 so you bounce it to somebody 4991 02:26:06,109 --> 02:26:09,709 else o how does that work? 4992 02:26:10,460 --> 02:26:10,412 >> exactly, it's rotation 4993 02:26:10,412 --> 02:26:12,412 one, 4994 02:26:15,318 --> 02:26:16,519 two, three, you should -- 4995 02:26:16,519 --> 02:26:17,186 >> you should start with 4996 02:26:17,186 --> 02:26:19,186 courtesy. 4997 02:26:19,789 --> 02:26:21,560 >> yeah, if we get to action 4998 02:26:21,560 --> 02:26:21,391 tow and they're unavailable 4999 02:26:21,391 --> 02:26:22,920 or 5000 02:26:22,920 --> 02:26:23,526 don't have the equipment 5001 02:26:23,526 --> 02:26:25,362 available to do it, we'll 5002 02:26:25,362 --> 02:26:27,631 bounce back to the next one 5003 02:26:27,631 --> 02:26:30,133 and then put them at the top 5004 02:26:30,133 --> 02:26:31,368 for the next rotation to keep 5005 02:26:31,368 --> 02:26:33,368 it balanced. 5006 02:26:36,206 --> 02:26:38,206 >> okay. 5007 02:26:38,574 --> 02:26:38,975 I'm interested, captain 5008 02:26:38,975 --> 02:26:40,975 plank, 5009 02:26:41,111 --> 02:26:42,179 on the police side of it, if 5010 02:26:42,179 --> 02:26:44,579 somebody comes home late 5011 02:26:45,582 --> 02:26:47,417 friday night and they park, 5012 02:26:47,417 --> 02:26:48,819 maybe they're blocking a 5013 02:26:48,819 --> 02:26:49,185 driveway maybe b a little 5014 02:26:49,185 --> 02:26:50,420 bit, 5015 02:26:50,420 --> 02:26:52,422 what kind of efforts do we 5016 02:26:52,422 --> 02:26:53,223 make to not make it an 5017 02:26:53,223 --> 02:26:55,223 automatic tow? 5018 02:26:56,459 --> 02:26:57,394 >> that's a great question. 5019 02:26:57,394 --> 02:26:59,262 Our intention and desire is 5020 02:26:59,262 --> 02:27:02,565 not to tow the vehicle, it 5021 02:27:02,565 --> 02:27:03,700 takes an officer out of s 5022 02:27:03,700 --> 02:27:05,700 frs 5023 02:27:05,702 --> 02:27:06,937 from anywhere from 25-45 5024 02:27:06,937 --> 02:27:08,338 minutes deal witching the 5025 02:27:08,338 --> 02:27:11,700 paperwork and hooking it up. 5026 02:27:11,700 --> 02:27:13,100 We have access to the license 5027 02:27:13,100 --> 02:27:14,411 plate shows where that car is 5028 02:27:14,411 --> 02:27:14,944 registered to, we make every 5029 02:27:14,944 --> 02:27:16,580 attempt -- 5030 02:27:16,580 --> 02:27:17,981 >> woe would knock on a door 5031 02:27:17,981 --> 02:27:19,616 if we could? 5032 02:27:19,616 --> 02:27:22,616 >> we would, we would check 5033 02:27:23,320 --> 02:27:25,622 our database if we hve a 5034 02:27:25,622 --> 02:27:27,958 recent phone nmber, we wuld 5035 02:27:27,958 --> 02:27:29,326 try to contact tem in 5036 02:27:29,326 --> 02:27:29,960 multiple different avenues 5037 02:27:29,960 --> 02:27:31,960 until we've exhausted 5038 02:27:32,496 --> 02:27:33,397 everything and then we 5039 02:27:33,397 --> 02:27:34,980 ultimately would have to tow 5040 02:27:34,980 --> 02:27:36,980 the car. 5041 02:27:36,967 --> 02:27:38,680 It has to meet a criteria for 5042 02:27:38,680 --> 02:27:39,690 blocking that driveway too, 5043 02:27:39,690 --> 02:27:40,671 so 5044 02:27:40,671 --> 02:27:42,720 we'll evaluate, if it's 5045 02:27:42,720 --> 02:27:43,674 partially blocking the 5046 02:27:43,674 --> 02:27:45,743 driveway but the person can 5047 02:27:45,743 --> 02:27:48,790 still get out, we're likely 5048 02:27:48,790 --> 02:27:49,847 not going to tow that vehicle. 5049 02:27:49,847 --> 02:27:51,549 >> is that a different fine 5050 02:27:51,549 --> 02:27:54,618 for somebody, is there a fine 5051 02:27:54,618 --> 02:27:55,553 for that for a motorist that 5052 02:27:55,553 --> 02:27:57,189 partially blocks a driveway. 5053 02:27:57,189 --> 02:28:00,189 >> you can receive a ticket 5054 02:28:00,858 --> 02:28:03,270 for blocking a driveway and 5055 02:28:03,270 --> 02:28:05,270 that's a citation. 5056 02:28:05,129 --> 02:28:06,197 The -- if the person, I mean, 5057 02:28:06,197 --> 02:28:07,497 I just imagine after this 5058 02:28:07,497 --> 02:28:09,534 meeting, if I were to go home 5059 02:28:09,534 --> 02:28:11,169 and there was a car blocking 5060 02:28:11,169 --> 02:28:13,370 my driveway and nobody could 5061 02:28:13,370 --> 02:28:14,439 get a hold of it, my desire 5062 02:28:14,439 --> 02:28:17,909 would be for it to be towed 5063 02:28:17,909 --> 02:28:20,144 because I want to go home and 5064 02:28:20,144 --> 02:28:21,145 do my evening stuff and go to 5065 02:28:21,145 --> 02:28:21,479 work tomorrow so that would 5066 02:28:21,479 --> 02:28:23,470 be 5067 02:28:23,470 --> 02:28:25,470 my expectation. 5068 02:28:25,316 --> 02:28:26,317 >> I'm glad we make the front 5069 02:28:26,317 --> 02:28:27,652 end effort. 5070 02:28:27,652 --> 02:28:29,320 >> excellent point. 5071 02:28:29,320 --> 02:28:31,320 Go ahead. 5072 02:28:32,323 --> 02:28:34,723 >> so, the 225 is the 2016 5073 02:28:35,930 --> 02:28:38,290 amount and if we follow the 5074 02:28:38,290 --> 02:28:38,396 average inflation rate of 5075 02:28:38,396 --> 02:28:40,396 3.26 5076 02:28:41,266 --> 02:28:43,568 per year, that will be $300, 5077 02:28:43,568 --> 02:28:44,936 now, to address what you were 5078 02:28:44,936 --> 02:28:45,436 asking for, that if you can 5079 02:28:45,436 --> 02:28:46,804 do 5080 02:28:46,804 --> 02:28:49,174 it every year, I think that 5081 02:28:49,174 --> 02:28:51,843 will be for the next round, 5082 02:28:51,843 --> 02:28:53,444 right, and it depends also on 5083 02:28:53,444 --> 02:28:55,614 how your bandwidth to work 5084 02:28:55,614 --> 02:28:57,816 with them if that's what they 5085 02:28:57,816 --> 02:28:58,617 wanted to have an annual 5086 02:28:58,617 --> 02:29:00,617 inflationary cst. 5087 02:29:01,186 --> 02:29:02,587 But for now, we're just 5088 02:29:02,587 --> 02:29:04,987 talking about the suggestion 5089 02:29:05,591 --> 02:29:05,924 to increase it from 225 to 5090 02:29:05,924 --> 02:29:07,924 325 5091 02:29:08,460 --> 02:29:11,460 which is already higher than 5092 02:29:11,530 --> 02:29:14,399 if you compute for the annual 5093 02:29:14,399 --> 02:29:14,733 inflationary rate from 2016 5094 02:29:14,733 --> 02:29:16,733 to 5095 02:29:17,202 --> 02:29:18,504 2025, it should just be about 5096 02:29:18,504 --> 02:29:20,504 to $300. 5097 02:29:20,906 --> 02:29:21,707 >> we're okay with the 325 at 5098 02:29:21,707 --> 02:29:23,374 the moment. 5099 02:29:23,374 --> 02:29:23,842 >> that's what we're tlking 5100 02:29:23,842 --> 02:29:25,842 about. 5101 02:29:26,780 --> 02:29:27,178 I'm just telling you that 5102 02:29:27,178 --> 02:29:29,178 it's 5103 02:29:29,481 --> 02:29:31,481 $25 more than -- 5104 02:29:31,817 --> 02:29:33,817 >> in addition. 5105 02:29:45,970 --> 02:29:45,798 >> [Inaudible]. 5106 02:29:45,798 --> 02:29:47,798 >> thank you. 5107 02:29:50,536 --> 02:29:51,470 >> I did do the math, it 5108 02:29:51,470 --> 02:29:52,171 compounded as 28.8%, comes 5109 02:29:52,171 --> 02:29:53,572 out 5110 02:29:53,572 --> 02:29:55,441 to around $300. 5111 02:29:55,441 --> 02:29:56,375 >> captain plank, it says on 5112 02:29:56,375 --> 02:29:58,210 attachment a, if you believe 5113 02:29:58,210 --> 02:30:00,450 you have been unfairly 5114 02:30:00,450 --> 02:30:01,460 channeled, please contact 5115 02:30:01,460 --> 02:30:03,381 south city pd traffic 5116 02:30:03,381 --> 02:30:04,684 division, how many of those 5117 02:30:04,684 --> 02:30:05,751 have you been contacted in 5118 02:30:05,751 --> 02:30:07,530 what manner, I want to know 5119 02:30:07,530 --> 02:30:08,190 about performance and 5120 02:30:08,190 --> 02:30:10,419 accountability too about this. 5121 02:30:12,124 --> 02:30:12,525 >> I'm not aware of any 5122 02:30:12,525 --> 02:30:13,292 formal 5123 02:30:13,292 --> 02:30:15,692 complaints where someone had 5124 02:30:19,265 --> 02:30:22,134 called and said I'm being 5125 02:30:22,134 --> 02:30:25,134 overcharged or the most that 5126 02:30:25,171 --> 02:30:25,638 we would receive is if 5127 02:30:25,638 --> 02:30:27,638 someone 5128 02:30:27,740 --> 02:30:28,740 indicated that maybe there 5129 02:30:28,740 --> 02:30:30,740 was 5130 02:30:31,211 --> 02:30:33,279 a minor scratch or blemish on 5131 02:30:33,279 --> 02:30:35,140 a bumper might claim that 5132 02:30:35,140 --> 02:30:35,381 wasn't there prior to and 5133 02:30:35,381 --> 02:30:36,950 they 5134 02:30:36,950 --> 02:30:40,530 say it was as a result of a 5135 02:30:40,530 --> 02:30:41,687 tow but there's no price 5136 02:30:41,687 --> 02:30:42,121 gouging or delaying so 5137 02:30:42,121 --> 02:30:44,121 there's 5138 02:30:44,457 --> 02:30:45,825 an extra daily storage fee or 5139 02:30:45,825 --> 02:30:47,694 pushing it until after hours 5140 02:30:47,694 --> 02:30:48,600 so then there's an after 5141 02:30:48,600 --> 02:30:49,729 hours 5142 02:30:49,729 --> 02:30:50,960 fee added to it, I'm not 5143 02:30:50,960 --> 02:30:52,960 aware 5144 02:30:52,665 --> 02:30:53,366 of any of those taking place. 5145 02:30:53,366 --> 02:30:55,366 >> toy 5146 02:30:55,469 --> 02:30:57,537 f tows are considered 5147 02:30:57,537 --> 02:30:59,773 vehicle impounds as part of 5148 02:30:59,773 --> 02:31:00,540 what you do or how are those 5149 02:31:00,540 --> 02:31:02,174 classified sm 5150 02:31:02,174 --> 02:31:02,609 >> so, a vehicle impound 5151 02:31:02,609 --> 02:31:04,609 would 5152 02:31:04,911 --> 02:31:07,911 be if someone has a 5153 02:31:08,414 --> 02:31:09,583 restriction on their driver's 5154 02:31:09,583 --> 02:31:11,218 license, sspended, has proof 5155 02:31:11,218 --> 02:31:12,352 of service, is aware they 5156 02:31:12,352 --> 02:31:14,752 shouldn't be driving and 5157 02:31:14,922 --> 02:31:16,556 continues to drive, so, and 5158 02:31:16,556 --> 02:31:19,556 continue tos drive a car 5159 02:31:21,294 --> 02:31:23,230 that's registered to them. 5160 02:31:23,230 --> 02:31:23,630 So, that would be a 30 day 5161 02:31:23,630 --> 02:31:24,310 impound. 5162 02:31:24,310 --> 02:31:24,731 >> okay. 5163 02:31:24,731 --> 02:31:26,990 >> another impocketbacker 5164 02:31:26,990 --> 02:31:28,968 pound would be if someone has 5165 02:31:28,968 --> 02:31:29,303 multiple prior convictions 5166 02:31:29,303 --> 02:31:30,370 for 5167 02:31:30,370 --> 02:31:31,338 driving under the influence 5168 02:31:31,338 --> 02:31:32,740 and there was restrictions 5169 02:31:32,740 --> 02:31:34,375 that said they're not allowed 5170 02:31:34,375 --> 02:31:34,708 to drive or else that would 5171 02:31:34,708 --> 02:31:35,208 be 5172 02:31:35,208 --> 02:31:37,208 an impound. 5173 02:31:37,378 --> 02:31:38,279 The majority of the other 5174 02:31:38,279 --> 02:31:39,446 tows 5175 02:31:39,446 --> 02:31:40,381 we do are storage. 5176 02:31:40,381 --> 02:31:42,381 >> got it. 5177 02:31:43,184 --> 02:31:45,452 >> it doesn't have a set time 5178 02:31:45,452 --> 02:31:49,520 period that it needs to be 5179 02:31:50,924 --> 02:31:52,930 held at the tow yard if the 5180 02:31:52,930 --> 02:31:53,494 owner responds within 30 5181 02:31:53,494 --> 02:31:55,129 minutes from it being towed, 5182 02:31:55,129 --> 02:31:58,399 they can access the car and 5183 02:31:58,399 --> 02:32:00,568 get it out, the impound would 5184 02:32:00,568 --> 02:32:02,903 be a specific situation. 5185 02:32:02,903 --> 02:32:04,505 >> so, that includes dui 5186 02:32:04,505 --> 02:32:06,139 vehicles that are picked up 5187 02:32:06,139 --> 02:32:08,139 during ceck points? 5188 02:32:08,843 --> 02:32:10,311 >> no, it wouldn't. 5189 02:32:10,311 --> 02:32:11,245 That charge, I'm sorry, that 5190 02:32:11,245 --> 02:32:13,514 authority to tow that car 5191 02:32:13,514 --> 02:32:15,830 would be a storage, it would 5192 02:32:15,830 --> 02:32:17,684 be the driver's arrested and 5193 02:32:17,684 --> 02:32:19,870 we aren't able to lever it at 5194 02:32:19,870 --> 02:32:21,489 its current location, we do 5195 02:32:21,489 --> 02:32:23,558 leave the vehicles at their 5196 02:32:23,558 --> 02:32:25,193 resting point if they're 5197 02:32:25,193 --> 02:32:26,961 legally parked, if they're on 5198 02:32:26,961 --> 02:32:27,996 their street, we don't take 5199 02:32:27,996 --> 02:32:29,996 them automatically. 5200 02:32:31,933 --> 02:32:33,167 If it's parked in a tow away 5201 02:32:33,167 --> 02:32:33,568 zone and if we leave it 5202 02:32:33,568 --> 02:32:35,203 there, 5203 02:32:35,203 --> 02:32:35,569 it will be towed later on 5204 02:32:35,569 --> 02:32:37,272 that 5205 02:32:37,272 --> 02:32:37,572 night or if it's parked in a 5206 02:32:37,572 --> 02:32:39,572 a 5207 02:32:42,644 --> 02:32:42,977 road zone or in unsafe area 5208 02:32:42,977 --> 02:32:43,744 or 5209 02:32:43,744 --> 02:32:45,980 an area that's prone to have 5210 02:32:45,980 --> 02:32:47,480 higher vehicle burglaries or 5211 02:32:47,480 --> 02:32:48,115 crime, our community care 5212 02:32:48,115 --> 02:32:49,918 taking authority is to remove 5213 02:32:49,918 --> 02:32:50,318 the vehicle and have it 5214 02:32:50,318 --> 02:32:51,860 stored 5215 02:32:51,860 --> 02:32:52,721 safely until the person can 5216 02:32:52,721 --> 02:32:54,721 get it out. 5217 02:32:54,723 --> 02:32:55,991 So, not all arrests result in 5218 02:32:55,991 --> 02:32:57,759 a tow as well. 5219 02:32:57,759 --> 02:33:00,610 >> understood, thank you for 5220 02:33:00,610 --> 02:33:01,763 that clarification. 5221 02:33:01,763 --> 02:33:02,898 >> I don't mean to belabor 5222 02:33:02,898 --> 02:33:05,634 this, I think there is an 5223 02:33:05,634 --> 02:33:06,802 argument to be made an an 5224 02:33:06,802 --> 02:33:07,235 annual adjustment, maybe a 5225 02:33:07,235 --> 02:33:09,235 cpi 5226 02:33:09,438 --> 02:33:09,871 and we have something 5227 02:33:09,871 --> 02:33:11,871 similar, 5228 02:33:14,843 --> 02:33:15,577 I think every three years we 5229 02:33:15,577 --> 02:33:17,712 look at our scavenger rates 5230 02:33:17,712 --> 02:33:19,548 and we adjust to a percentage 5231 02:33:19,548 --> 02:33:21,383 of the cpi, and if we did 5232 02:33:21,383 --> 02:33:24,252 that, even though it wasn't 5233 02:33:24,252 --> 02:33:27,252 reaching the full expense, it 5234 02:33:27,922 --> 02:33:32,122 would allow us to go a number 5235 02:33:32,161 --> 02:33:35,761 of years, at in time, the 5236 02:33:35,831 --> 02:33:36,164 operators can come and ask 5237 02:33:36,164 --> 02:33:36,899 for 5238 02:33:36,899 --> 02:33:37,666 an increase if things felt 5239 02:33:37,666 --> 02:33:38,366 like they did now, so I think 5240 02:33:38,366 --> 02:33:39,434 we should can consider a 5241 02:33:39,434 --> 02:33:41,936 little quution the cpi, maybe 5242 02:33:41,936 --> 02:33:43,639 a percentage of the annual. 5243 02:33:43,639 --> 02:33:44,340 >> great. 5244 02:33:44,340 --> 02:33:46,740 >> I'm supportive of that 5245 02:33:47,743 --> 02:33:48,177 >> I want to hear from 5246 02:33:48,177 --> 02:33:49,311 everyone. 5247 02:33:49,311 --> 02:33:51,413 >> I'm fine with that. 5248 02:33:51,413 --> 02:33:53,413 >> okay. 5249 02:33:55,451 --> 02:33:56,819 >> do we do 60% on our 5250 02:33:56,819 --> 02:33:58,220 scavenger utility bill? 5251 02:33:58,220 --> 02:33:58,554 >> I did just look at tat 5252 02:33:58,554 --> 02:34:00,289 and 5253 02:34:00,289 --> 02:34:00,623 I would have to get back to 5254 02:34:00,623 --> 02:34:01,457 you. 5255 02:34:01,457 --> 02:34:02,624 That does sound correct. 5256 02:34:02,624 --> 02:34:03,793 >> okay. 5257 02:34:03,793 --> 02:34:05,793 >> councilmember? 5258 02:34:07,897 --> 02:34:09,640 >> so, tonight I was very 5259 02:34:09,640 --> 02:34:10,333 much prepared to vote no but 5260 02:34:10,333 --> 02:34:11,934 I 5261 02:34:11,934 --> 02:34:12,334 think based on sergeant 5262 02:34:12,334 --> 02:34:13,803 plank, 5263 02:34:13,803 --> 02:34:15,104 I'm a lot more comfortable 5264 02:34:15,104 --> 02:34:16,772 voting on this item, the 5265 02:34:16,772 --> 02:34:17,974 reason is I have experienced 5266 02:34:17,974 --> 02:34:21,210 being tow and had I have 5267 02:34:21,210 --> 02:34:22,378 others who have experienced 5268 02:34:22,378 --> 02:34:23,746 being towed in san francisco, 5269 02:34:23,746 --> 02:34:24,914 in san francisco, they're 5270 02:34:24,914 --> 02:34:27,160 looking for every reason to 5271 02:34:27,160 --> 02:34:27,649 tow a vehicle and it's 5272 02:34:27,649 --> 02:34:28,170 disgusting and predatory, 5273 02:34:28,170 --> 02:34:29,352 here 5274 02:34:29,352 --> 02:34:30,887 it looks like we're trying to 5275 02:34:30,887 --> 02:34:33,887 do everything but tow a 5276 02:34:34,423 --> 02:34:35,558 vehicle, only in the most 5277 02:34:35,558 --> 02:34:37,958 extreme circumstances which I 5278 02:34:37,961 --> 02:34:39,529 appreciate and I believe that 5279 02:34:39,529 --> 02:34:41,130 having a cpi adjustment 5280 02:34:41,130 --> 02:34:42,198 annually would make a lot of 5281 02:34:42,198 --> 02:34:44,466 sense, that way we don't have 5282 02:34:44,466 --> 02:34:47,466 to bring it back again. 5283 02:34:47,537 --> 02:34:48,537 >> sure, like brian had said, 5284 02:34:48,537 --> 02:34:50,874 some cities, I don't know 5285 02:34:50,874 --> 02:34:51,240 around here, I do know of 5286 02:34:51,240 --> 02:34:52,742 some 5287 02:34:52,742 --> 02:34:53,176 cities to do that, it's a 5288 02:34:53,176 --> 02:34:54,144 much 5289 02:34:54,144 --> 02:34:55,544 shorter presentation and much 5290 02:34:55,544 --> 02:34:57,714 more of an update, this is 5291 02:34:57,714 --> 02:34:59,215 what the new number is and, 5292 02:34:59,215 --> 02:34:59,549 yeah, I can look into that 5293 02:34:59,549 --> 02:34:59,916 for 5294 02:34:59,916 --> 02:35:00,950 sure. 5295 02:35:00,950 --> 02:35:02,950 >> thank you, captain. 5296 02:35:03,385 --> 02:35:04,870 do we have any public 5297 02:35:04,870 --> 02:35:05,488 comments? 5298 02:35:05,488 --> 02:35:06,656 >> no public comments, mayor. 5299 02:35:06,656 --> 02:35:08,656 >> thank you. 5300 02:35:09,459 --> 02:35:09,860 If not, I am looking for a 5301 02:35:09,860 --> 02:35:10,928 motion. 5302 02:35:10,928 --> 02:35:11,227 >> so moved. 5303 02:35:11,227 --> 02:35:12,896 Er 5304 02:35:12,896 --> 02:35:13,930 >> I'm sorry, mayor, just to 5305 02:35:13,930 --> 02:35:15,332 clarify waoe, doipg a motion 5306 02:35:15,332 --> 02:35:18,332 for the resolution with an 5307 02:35:18,434 --> 02:35:20,700 amendment to the item or -- 5308 02:35:20,700 --> 02:35:21,238 >> everyone agrees to the 5309 02:35:21,238 --> 02:35:23,638 amendment, right, so yes. 5310 02:35:24,407 --> 02:35:24,941 >> eel -- I'll look to the 5311 02:35:24,941 --> 02:35:26,941 motion maker? 5312 02:35:27,244 --> 02:35:29,244 >> to the amendment? 5313 02:35:30,130 --> 02:35:31,181 If we really would like to go 5314 02:35:31,181 --> 02:35:32,849 for the 3.26 average 5315 02:35:32,849 --> 02:35:33,216 inflation, the amount of 5316 02:35:33,216 --> 02:35:35,216 money 5317 02:35:35,885 --> 02:35:36,220 from 2016 to 2025 is $300, 5318 02:35:36,220 --> 02:35:38,220 but 5319 02:35:38,422 --> 02:35:39,923 I'll just let it go and next 5320 02:35:39,923 --> 02:35:40,624 time maybe you will come to 5321 02:35:40,624 --> 02:35:42,624 us 5322 02:35:43,560 --> 02:35:45,462 and ask for a different one. 5323 02:35:45,462 --> 02:35:45,863 >> so you're making the 5324 02:35:45,863 --> 02:35:47,531 motion 5325 02:35:47,531 --> 02:35:50,330 just to adopt the proposed 5326 02:35:50,330 --> 02:35:50,767 fees with no automatic 5327 02:35:50,767 --> 02:35:52,767 inflationary adjustment? 5328 02:35:52,770 --> 02:35:54,400 >> and I'll second it but on 5329 02:35:54,400 --> 02:35:56,173 that question, we can come 5330 02:35:56,173 --> 02:35:56,473 back at any time and include 5331 02:35:56,473 --> 02:35:58,410 a 5332 02:35:58,410 --> 02:35:59,176 cpi, a percentage of cpi? 5333 02:35:59,176 --> 02:36:00,845 >> yes. 5334 02:36:00,845 --> 02:36:01,812 >> so for tonight we're 5335 02:36:01,812 --> 02:36:02,245 talking about what staff 5336 02:36:02,245 --> 02:36:03,648 presented? 5337 02:36:03,648 --> 02:36:04,348 >> correct. 5338 02:36:04,348 --> 02:36:05,248 >> okay, clarified, thank 5339 02:36:05,248 --> 02:36:05,583 you, 5340 02:36:05,583 --> 02:36:07,351 all. 5341 02:36:07,351 --> 02:36:08,519 >> perfect, I have a first 5342 02:36:08,519 --> 02:36:09,687 from councilmember nicolas a 5343 02:36:09,687 --> 02:36:10,154 second from vice mayor 5344 02:36:10,154 --> 02:36:10,454 addiego. 5345 02:36:10,454 --> 02:36:11,322 Er 5346 02:36:11,322 --> 02:36:12,523 >> roll call. 5347 02:36:12,523 --> 02:36:12,957 >> MAY xwrorbacker yo 5348 02:36:12,957 --> 02:36:13,290 r mrez 5349 02:36:13,290 --> 02:36:14,224 rez? 5350 02:36:14,224 --> 02:36:15,493 >> yes. 5351 02:36:15,493 --> 02:36:15,960 >> nicolas?Frjts aye. 5352 02:36:15,960 --> 02:36:16,594 >> addiego? 5353 02:36:16,594 --> 02:36:17,610 >> yes. 5354 02:36:17,610 --> 02:36:18,620 >> coleman? 5355 02:36:18,620 --> 02:36:18,529 >> yes. 5356 02:36:18,529 --> 02:36:19,696 >> nagales? 5357 02:36:19,696 --> 02:36:21,696 >> yes. 5358 02:36:21,933 --> 02:36:22,967 >> motion passes, thank you, 5359 02:36:22,967 --> 02:36:23,668 captain plank, thank you, 5360 02:36:23,668 --> 02:36:24,368 everyone, thank you, 5361 02:36:24,368 --> 02:36:26,700 gentlemen. 5362 02:36:26,700 --> 02:36:26,404 >> moving on to item number 5363 02:36:26,404 --> 02:36:28,404 12 5364 02:36:28,539 --> 02:36:31,539 is a report regarding an 5365 02:36:32,100 --> 02:36:34,100 ordinance amending title 6, 5366 02:36:35,680 --> 02:36:37,480 chapter 6.46 of the south san 5367 02:36:37,480 --> 02:36:39,448 francisco municipal code to 5368 02:36:39,884 --> 02:36:41,653 adopt by reference title 4, 5369 02:36:41,653 --> 02:36:42,887 chapter 4.98 of the san mateo 5370 02:36:42,887 --> 02:36:45,890 county ordinance code and 5371 02:36:45,890 --> 02:36:47,489 repealing in its entirety 5372 02:36:48,920 --> 02:36:50,920 title 6, chapter 6.47, sales 5373 02:36:50,394 --> 02:36:52,163 of flavored tobacco products, 5374 02:36:52,163 --> 02:36:54,980 pharmacy sales of tobacco 5375 02:36:54,980 --> 02:36:56,401 products and sales of 5376 02:36:56,401 --> 02:36:56,868 electronic smoking devices 5377 02:36:56,868 --> 02:36:58,269 prohibited. 5378 02:36:58,269 --> 02:37:00,138 Item 12a is the ordinance. 5379 02:37:00,138 --> 02:37:02,440 >> so you're really going to 5380 02:37:02,440 --> 02:37:02,906 kick it off the park here, 5381 02:37:02,906 --> 02:37:04,750 MS. 5382 02:37:04,750 --> 02:37:04,575 Fernandez as your last 5383 02:37:04,575 --> 02:37:05,943 presentation. 5384 02:37:05,943 --> 02:37:08,460 >> this is my parting gift to 5385 02:37:08,460 --> 02:37:10,460 all of you. 5386 02:37:10,810 --> 02:37:11,150 Good evening, councilmembers, 5387 02:37:11,150 --> 02:37:12,884 christina fernandez, your 5388 02:37:12,884 --> 02:37:14,753 deputy city manager, I'm here 5389 02:37:14,753 --> 02:37:17,322 tonight to provide an update 5390 02:37:17,322 --> 02:37:18,490 and seek your approval for 5391 02:37:18,490 --> 02:37:19,257 our 5392 02:37:19,257 --> 02:37:20,826 flavored tobacco regulations 5393 02:37:20,826 --> 02:37:23,462 such that they cmply with 5394 02:37:23,462 --> 02:37:26,462 recent changes to state law. 5395 02:37:26,631 --> 02:37:29,534 With me tonight, I have our 5396 02:37:29,534 --> 02:37:31,934 team, lieutenant sair wyatt, 5397 02:37:32,304 --> 02:37:34,704 shawn occur, from the 5398 02:37:35,730 --> 02:37:37,730 tobacco's county education 5399 02:37:37,910 --> 02:37:40,910 team, myra daoe yez ramirez 5400 02:37:41,180 --> 02:37:42,914 and director of public works, 5401 02:37:42,914 --> 02:37:44,749 bob, so I want to thank them 5402 02:37:44,749 --> 02:37:45,150 for their efforts during this 5403 02:37:45,150 --> 02:37:46,618 process. 5404 02:37:46,618 --> 02:37:49,180 So again we're seking 5405 02:37:49,187 --> 02:37:49,955 council's approval to amend 5406 02:37:49,955 --> 02:37:51,757 the tobacco retailer permit 5407 02:37:51,757 --> 02:37:52,691 and adopt the county's 5408 02:37:52,691 --> 02:37:54,691 ordinance by reference. 5409 02:37:55,461 --> 02:37:57,950 I'm also going to update you 5410 02:37:57,950 --> 02:37:58,300 on our retailer outreach and 5411 02:37:58,300 --> 02:38:00,430 education efforts and then 5412 02:38:00,599 --> 02:38:01,967 provide you with next steps 5413 02:38:01,967 --> 02:38:03,670 on 5414 02:38:03,670 --> 02:38:03,869 tobacco education and 5415 02:38:03,869 --> 02:38:05,700 engagement efforts. 5416 02:38:05,700 --> 02:38:05,470 So, one of the primary 5417 02:38:05,470 --> 02:38:07,339 reasons 5418 02:38:07,339 --> 02:38:09,875 for the city's efforts around 5419 02:38:09,875 --> 02:38:13,412 tobacco is due to the rise of 5420 02:38:13,412 --> 02:38:15,714 vaping by mouther, there's 15 5421 02:38:15,714 --> 02:38:17,483 thousand flavors online, 93% 5422 02:38:17,483 --> 02:38:20,483 of youth who started vaping 5423 02:38:21,153 --> 02:38:22,788 start witched a flavored 5424 02:38:22,788 --> 02:38:23,923 product, 96% of high school 5425 02:38:23,923 --> 02:38:26,923 students who vape use flavor 5426 02:38:27,326 --> 02:38:29,280 and is 9% of san mateo 5427 02:38:29,280 --> 02:38:29,962 high-schoolers vape. 5428 02:38:29,962 --> 02:38:31,597 Vaping requires nicotine salt 5429 02:38:31,597 --> 02:38:33,232 which is highly concentrated 5430 02:38:33,232 --> 02:38:33,699 and bad for developing 5431 02:38:33,699 --> 02:38:35,699 brains, 5432 02:38:36,702 --> 02:38:39,172 it can cause anxiety and many 5433 02:38:39,172 --> 02:38:40,306 other detrimental health 5434 02:38:40,306 --> 02:38:42,306 effects. 5435 02:38:42,374 --> 02:38:42,708 So just a little background 5436 02:38:42,708 --> 02:38:44,708 on 5437 02:38:45,878 --> 02:38:48,278 past actions, back in 2008, 5438 02:38:48,448 --> 02:38:49,849 the city adopted the county's 5439 02:38:49,849 --> 02:38:51,451 tobacco retailer permit 5440 02:38:51,451 --> 02:38:53,753 ordinance by reference and 5441 02:38:53,753 --> 02:38:55,855 that essentially said that we 5442 02:38:55,855 --> 02:38:58,255 were requiring all tobacco 5443 02:38:58,791 --> 02:39:00,590 retailers to maintain a valid 5444 02:39:00,590 --> 02:39:02,328 tobacco retailer permit and 5445 02:39:02,328 --> 02:39:03,496 that we would have the 5446 02:39:03,496 --> 02:39:05,496 county's environmental health 5447 02:39:05,564 --> 02:39:05,965 division enforce those 5448 02:39:05,965 --> 02:39:07,965 permits. 5449 02:39:08,368 --> 02:39:10,670 In 2012, we then passed an 5450 02:39:10,670 --> 02:39:12,405 ordinance prohibiting new 5451 02:39:12,405 --> 02:39:14,240 significant tobacco retailers 5452 02:39:14,240 --> 02:39:14,574 and a significant retailer 5453 02:39:14,574 --> 02:39:16,574 has 5454 02:39:17,477 --> 02:39:19,813 20% or more of their floor 5455 02:39:19,813 --> 02:39:21,681 area space and/or 50% or more 5456 02:39:21,681 --> 02:39:23,617 of their completed sales 5457 02:39:23,617 --> 02:39:24,384 transactions including 5458 02:39:24,384 --> 02:39:26,384 tobacco 5459 02:39:27,954 --> 02:39:29,954 products or paraphernalia, 5460 02:39:30,157 --> 02:39:30,957 back in no. 2019 when I came 5461 02:39:30,957 --> 02:39:33,727 on board, there was an 5462 02:39:33,727 --> 02:39:36,396 interest on behalf of council 5463 02:39:36,396 --> 02:39:37,998 to pursue a flavored tobacco 5464 02:39:37,998 --> 02:39:40,768 banser we pursued that, it 5465 02:39:40,768 --> 02:39:42,168 bans the sale of flavored 5466 02:39:42,168 --> 02:39:43,469 tobacco in all businesses 5467 02:39:43,469 --> 02:39:45,405 except for all adult retail 5468 02:39:45,405 --> 02:39:45,739 and he iser they only allow 5469 02:39:45,739 --> 02:39:47,274 21 5470 02:39:47,274 --> 02:39:47,607 and over on their premises 5471 02:39:47,607 --> 02:39:49,607 and 5472 02:39:49,743 --> 02:39:52,713 that was effect tier JANUARY 5473 02:39:52,713 --> 02:39:54,614 1, 2020. 5474 02:39:54,614 --> 02:39:56,517 So, there have been some 5475 02:39:56,517 --> 02:39:58,685 recent changes to state law 5476 02:39:58,685 --> 02:40:01,850 which would necessitate these 5477 02:40:01,522 --> 02:40:03,922 updates to our ordinance. 5478 02:40:04,958 --> 02:40:07,358 In 2022, voters upheld senate 5479 02:40:07,461 --> 02:40:09,563 bill 793 which prohibited e 5480 02:40:09,563 --> 02:40:12,563 cigarette and is apes and 5481 02:40:13,834 --> 02:40:16,170 other tobacco items listed on 5482 02:40:16,170 --> 02:40:18,170 the screen, methane 5483 02:40:18,239 --> 02:40:20,239 cigarettes, flavored blunt 5484 02:40:20,841 --> 02:40:22,710 wraps, loose leaf roll your 5485 02:40:22,710 --> 02:40:25,110 own tobacco, rolling papers, 5486 02:40:25,746 --> 02:40:27,814 flavored, and tobacco product 5487 02:40:27,814 --> 02:40:28,215 flavor enhances, it did 5488 02:40:28,215 --> 02:40:29,684 exempt 5489 02:40:29,684 --> 02:40:30,500 flavored premium sig gars 5490 02:40:30,500 --> 02:40:31,985 with 5491 02:40:31,985 --> 02:40:34,722 the wolesale price of $12 or 5492 02:40:34,722 --> 02:40:37,458 more and it also exempted 5493 02:40:37,458 --> 02:40:39,858 flavored loose leaf, pipe 5494 02:40:40,728 --> 02:40:42,960 tobacco and flavored sheik ka 5495 02:40:42,960 --> 02:40:45,960 hookah tobacco which MAY only 5496 02:40:46,234 --> 02:40:49,234 be sold in adult only 5497 02:40:49,637 --> 02:40:51,637 retailers. 5498 02:40:53,808 --> 02:40:56,208 Another couple recent bill, 5499 02:40:56,811 --> 02:40:58,946 ab3218 and sb1230, ab3218 5500 02:40:58,946 --> 02:41:01,182 creates an unflavored tobacco 5501 02:41:01,182 --> 02:41:01,649 list and that list is 5502 02:41:01,649 --> 02:41:03,551 supposed 5503 02:41:03,551 --> 02:41:03,984 to be released by the 5504 02:41:03,984 --> 02:41:05,252 attorney 5505 02:41:05,252 --> 02:41:06,354 general by the the end of the 5506 02:41:06,354 --> 02:41:07,589 this year, products not on 5507 02:41:07,589 --> 02:41:10,358 this list would be considered 5508 02:41:10,358 --> 02:41:12,358 a flavored product. 5509 02:41:14,362 --> 02:41:15,763 Sb1230 or the stop act 5510 02:41:15,763 --> 02:41:18,163 complements 3218 such that it 5511 02:41:19,534 --> 02:41:20,301 allows the state to seize 5512 02:41:20,301 --> 02:41:22,701 flavored tobacco products not 5513 02:41:22,804 --> 02:41:24,839 on that list and it imposes 5514 02:41:24,839 --> 02:41:27,239 civil penalties on retailers 5515 02:41:28,877 --> 02:41:30,780 and wholesalers. 5516 02:41:30,780 --> 02:41:33,780 So, in 2023, the city receive 5517 02:41:33,281 --> 02:41:35,349 add a let frer the county 5518 02:41:35,349 --> 02:41:37,686 saying, listen, thankers for 5519 02:41:37,686 --> 02:41:39,521 adopting the 2019 flavored 5520 02:41:39,521 --> 02:41:40,889 tobacco ban because our 5521 02:41:40,889 --> 02:41:41,256 ordinance was modeled on 5522 02:41:41,256 --> 02:41:43,224 that, 5523 02:41:43,224 --> 02:41:43,959 however, we did make 5524 02:41:43,959 --> 02:41:44,659 exceptionbacker exemptions 5525 02:41:44,659 --> 02:41:45,930 such that all the other 5526 02:41:45,930 --> 02:41:47,930 cities 5527 02:41:48,229 --> 02:41:49,698 throughout the county also 5528 02:41:49,698 --> 02:41:50,865 made exemptions so there's a 5529 02:41:50,865 --> 02:41:51,233 patch work of ordinances out 5530 02:41:51,233 --> 02:41:53,233 there. 5531 02:41:54,603 --> 02:41:56,438 In order to reduce logistical 5532 02:41:56,438 --> 02:41:58,306 challenges with enforcing 5533 02:41:58,306 --> 02:41:58,707 various city ordinances 5534 02:41:58,707 --> 02:42:00,609 around 5535 02:42:00,609 --> 02:42:00,976 tobacco, the county said 5536 02:42:00,976 --> 02:42:02,976 we're 5537 02:42:03,780 --> 02:42:04,580 going adopt a new tobacco 5538 02:42:04,580 --> 02:42:06,114 retailer ordinance and have 5539 02:42:06,114 --> 02:42:06,882 stronger enforcement, have 5540 02:42:06,882 --> 02:42:08,951 retail restriction and is 5541 02:42:08,951 --> 02:42:11,530 there will be proximity 5542 02:42:11,530 --> 02:42:12,921 restrictions for new retail 5543 02:42:12,921 --> 02:42:13,855 businesses and they really 5544 02:42:13,855 --> 02:42:15,390 encouraged cities to adopt 5545 02:42:15,390 --> 02:42:17,125 this so there's a more 5546 02:42:17,125 --> 02:42:17,660 streamlined approach to 5547 02:42:17,660 --> 02:42:18,260 enforcement and 5548 02:42:18,260 --> 02:42:20,260 administration 5549 02:42:21,764 --> 02:42:24,164 of the retailer program. 5550 02:42:25,701 --> 02:42:26,635 So, the new county tobacco 5551 02:42:26,635 --> 02:42:28,635 ordinance requirements, it 5552 02:42:28,671 --> 02:42:30,306 does clean up some of the 5553 02:42:30,306 --> 02:42:32,407 language such tat it aligns 5554 02:42:32,407 --> 02:42:34,977 with sate law, so tobacco 5555 02:42:34,977 --> 02:42:35,711 prugt is then defined to 5556 02:42:35,711 --> 02:42:37,279 include synthetic nicotine 5557 02:42:37,279 --> 02:42:39,414 which in the past it did not 5558 02:42:39,414 --> 02:42:40,215 and it also expands the 5559 02:42:40,215 --> 02:42:42,840 definition of electronic 5560 02:42:42,840 --> 02:42:44,484 smoking device to include 5561 02:42:45,121 --> 02:42:47,230 non-nicotine products. 5562 02:42:47,230 --> 02:42:48,724 It also has issues around 5563 02:42:48,724 --> 02:42:50,793 proximity of where new 5564 02:42:50,793 --> 02:42:53,193 retailers could be located 5565 02:42:53,763 --> 02:42:55,598 such that it prohibits new 5566 02:42:55,598 --> 02:42:56,532 tobacco permit for any 5567 02:42:56,532 --> 02:42:58,868 location within a thousand 5568 02:42:58,868 --> 02:43:01,868 feet of the youth populated 5569 02:43:02,172 --> 02:43:04,572 area that could include 5570 02:43:05,441 --> 02:43:07,310 schools, public rec centers, 5571 02:43:07,310 --> 02:43:08,678 libraries, child care 5572 02:43:08,678 --> 02:43:10,213 facilities, preschools, those 5573 02:43:10,213 --> 02:43:11,681 are all considered youth 5574 02:43:11,681 --> 02:43:13,349 populated areas. 5575 02:43:13,349 --> 02:43:13,683 It also prohibits the issue 5576 02:43:13,683 --> 02:43:15,683 of 5577 02:43:16,152 --> 02:43:18,552 new permits with locations 5578 02:43:22,920 --> 02:43:23,693 within 500 feet within an 5579 02:43:23,693 --> 02:43:24,427 existing tobacco retailer, 5580 02:43:24,427 --> 02:43:26,290 posting of retailers unless 5581 02:43:26,290 --> 02:43:27,430 they have a permit and it 5582 02:43:27,430 --> 02:43:29,650 updates such that it 5583 02:43:29,650 --> 02:43:31,134 streamlines with new state 5584 02:43:31,134 --> 02:43:34,734 laws by increasing the age of 5585 02:43:35,672 --> 02:43:36,105 21 years to purchase tobacco 5586 02:43:36,105 --> 02:43:37,674 products. 5587 02:43:37,674 --> 02:43:40,343 So what does this mean for 5588 02:43:40,343 --> 02:43:42,178 existing retailers? 5589 02:43:42,178 --> 02:43:44,578 Upon discussions with county 5590 02:43:45,449 --> 02:43:47,150 staff, we understand that if 5591 02:43:47,150 --> 02:43:48,217 retailers meet one of these 5592 02:43:48,217 --> 02:43:49,786 three requirements, they will 5593 02:43:49,786 --> 02:43:50,253 be designated as a 5594 02:43:50,253 --> 02:43:52,253 preexisting 5595 02:43:53,230 --> 02:43:54,391 business and not subject to 5596 02:43:54,391 --> 02:43:56,391 new proximity requirements. 5597 02:43:56,526 --> 02:43:59,263 So, if a retailer previously 5598 02:43:59,263 --> 02:44:01,164 held a a tobacco permit under 5599 02:44:01,164 --> 02:44:02,332 the county's environmental 5600 02:44:02,332 --> 02:44:03,267 health services, if they're 5601 02:44:03,267 --> 02:44:05,635 register witched the state's 5602 02:44:05,635 --> 02:44:07,704 department of tax and fee 5603 02:44:07,704 --> 02:44:09,306 administration as a tobacco 5604 02:44:09,306 --> 02:44:10,474 retailer or if they hold a 5605 02:44:10,474 --> 02:44:12,810 south city business license 5606 02:44:12,810 --> 02:44:14,644 and is listed aa tobacco 5607 02:44:14,644 --> 02:44:15,345 retailer, then they would be 5608 02:44:15,345 --> 02:44:16,447 considered a preexisting 5609 02:44:16,447 --> 02:44:16,747 business and not have to get 5610 02:44:16,747 --> 02:44:18,747 a 5611 02:44:19,583 --> 02:44:21,785 new permit and be subject to 5612 02:44:21,785 --> 02:44:24,785 the thousand feet and the 500 5613 02:44:26,724 --> 02:44:28,724 feet requirements. 5614 02:44:28,792 --> 02:44:31,128 So, the new county ordinance 5615 02:44:31,128 --> 02:44:32,630 also mandates fines for any 5616 02:44:32,630 --> 02:44:34,463 violations, it increases the 5617 02:44:34,598 --> 02:44:34,965 fines up to $500 for the 5618 02:44:34,965 --> 02:44:36,100 first 5619 02:44:36,100 --> 02:44:36,500 violation and up a to 5620 02:44:36,500 --> 02:44:38,402 a 5621 02:44:38,402 --> 02:44:39,636 thousand for all subsequent 5622 02:44:39,636 --> 02:44:40,938 violation, it requires permit 5623 02:44:40,938 --> 02:44:43,240 suspension if a a business is 5624 02:44:43,240 --> 02:44:45,342 found to have sold to someone 5625 02:44:45,342 --> 02:44:47,178 under 21 and it requires 5626 02:44:47,178 --> 02:44:48,479 on-site inspections by the 5627 02:44:48,479 --> 02:44:49,714 county's environmental health 5628 02:44:49,714 --> 02:44:52,114 services department at least 5629 02:44:52,984 --> 02:44:54,519 twice a year. 5630 02:44:54,519 --> 02:44:55,319 So, some retailer and 5631 02:44:55,319 --> 02:44:55,720 community engagement, I 5632 02:44:55,720 --> 02:44:57,720 really 5633 02:44:58,122 --> 02:44:59,156 want to thank pd for their 5634 02:44:59,156 --> 02:45:00,992 assistance here. 5635 02:45:00,992 --> 02:45:01,459 We mailed out business 5636 02:45:01,459 --> 02:45:03,940 letters 5637 02:45:03,940 --> 02:45:04,280 to approximately 100 5638 02:45:04,280 --> 02:45:05,663 businesses who we thought 5639 02:45:05,663 --> 02:45:07,663 might be affected. 5640 02:45:09,100 --> 02:45:10,501 We also did three information 5641 02:45:10,501 --> 02:45:13,501 sessions, two in person and 5642 02:45:14,305 --> 02:45:15,506 one virtual and we also did 5643 02:45:15,506 --> 02:45:16,641 an 5644 02:45:16,641 --> 02:45:18,343 online tobacco retailer 5645 02:45:18,343 --> 02:45:19,744 survey, we targeted that with 5646 02:45:19,744 --> 02:45:22,460 the ecd distribution list we 5647 02:45:22,460 --> 02:45:23,714 have online and we also did 5648 02:45:23,714 --> 02:45:24,415 some social media posts 5649 02:45:24,415 --> 02:45:25,850 around 5650 02:45:25,850 --> 02:45:27,719 the survey encouraging folks 5651 02:45:27,719 --> 02:45:29,719 to take it. 5652 02:45:30,255 --> 02:45:31,656 And we also did in person 5653 02:45:31,656 --> 02:45:33,424 retailer visits such that we 5654 02:45:33,424 --> 02:45:34,658 visited about half of the 5655 02:45:34,658 --> 02:45:35,126 retailers that we have on 5656 02:45:35,126 --> 02:45:37,126 file 5657 02:45:38,763 --> 02:45:40,164 and we went and we spoke with 5658 02:45:40,164 --> 02:45:42,564 businesses and informed them 5659 02:45:43,680 --> 02:45:44,903 of the upcoming changes and 5660 02:45:44,903 --> 02:45:46,504 let them know how this could 5661 02:45:46,504 --> 02:45:47,439 potentially affect their 5662 02:45:47,439 --> 02:45:49,241 business and answered any 5663 02:45:49,241 --> 02:45:50,474 questions they MAY have, 5664 02:45:50,474 --> 02:45:50,942 overall most of the 5665 02:45:50,942 --> 02:45:52,942 businesses 5666 02:45:54,179 --> 02:45:56,140 said we haven't sold flavored 5667 02:45:56,140 --> 02:45:57,416 tobacco in four or five years. 5668 02:45:57,416 --> 02:45:59,751 There were questions around 5669 02:45:59,751 --> 02:46:02,487 sofm the other products such 5670 02:46:02,487 --> 02:46:03,588 as like flavored cigars, I 5671 02:46:03,588 --> 02:46:04,590 guess folks had questions 5672 02:46:04,590 --> 02:46:06,458 about that. 5673 02:46:06,458 --> 02:46:07,659 And so, yeah, overall, folks 5674 02:46:07,659 --> 02:46:09,494 didn't seem to really have 5675 02:46:09,494 --> 02:46:10,862 questions and they all seemed 5676 02:46:10,862 --> 02:46:13,262 to indicate they were 5677 02:46:14,466 --> 02:46:14,800 compliant with existing state 5678 02:46:14,800 --> 02:46:16,800 law. 5679 02:46:17,970 --> 02:46:21,570 So, for the next steps, you 5680 02:46:21,907 --> 02:46:23,509 know, currently chapter 20 of 5681 02:46:23,509 --> 02:46:25,909 our money code [Inaudible] 5682 02:46:26,110 --> 02:46:27,112 Chapter 20 is referenced in 5683 02:46:27,112 --> 02:46:28,981 chapter 6.47 which will be 5684 02:46:28,981 --> 02:46:30,816 repealed if this is approved 5685 02:46:30,816 --> 02:46:32,318 tonight, just to ensure 5686 02:46:32,318 --> 02:46:32,651 consistency the throughout 5687 02:46:32,651 --> 02:46:34,651 our 5688 02:46:35,954 --> 02:46:37,122 municipal code, staff will be 5689 02:46:37,122 --> 02:46:38,570 bringing chapter 4.20 to the 5690 02:46:38,570 --> 02:46:39,191 planning tuition for their 5691 02:46:39,191 --> 02:46:40,593 review and back the city 5692 02:46:40,593 --> 02:46:41,527 council for their review and 5693 02:46:41,527 --> 02:46:42,928 approval. 5694 02:46:42,928 --> 02:46:44,563 That being said, separate and 5695 02:46:44,563 --> 02:46:45,698 apart from that, I this 5696 02:46:45,698 --> 02:46:46,132 ordinance is approved 5697 02:46:46,132 --> 02:46:47,600 tonight, 5698 02:46:47,600 --> 02:46:49,201 we would go for a second 5699 02:46:49,201 --> 02:46:50,836 reading on APRIL 9 and this 5700 02:46:50,836 --> 02:46:52,471 would then be effective 30 5701 02:46:52,471 --> 02:46:52,838 days from that reading so 5702 02:46:52,838 --> 02:46:54,838 we'd 5703 02:46:55,841 --> 02:46:57,543 think about MAY 7. 5704 02:46:57,543 --> 02:46:58,100 And so with that, the team 5705 02:46:58,100 --> 02:46:59,879 and 5706 02:46:59,879 --> 02:47:01,470 I are here, happy to answer 5707 02:47:01,470 --> 02:47:02,914 any questions you MAY have. 5708 02:47:02,914 --> 02:47:05,314 >> thank you, christina, I 5709 02:47:06,252 --> 02:47:08,252 appreciate the presentation. 5710 02:47:09,222 --> 02:47:11,222 Questions? 5711 02:47:11,724 --> 02:47:12,859 >> I was going to say the 5712 02:47:12,859 --> 02:47:15,259 presentation was so complete 5713 02:47:15,795 --> 02:47:16,229 and prfect that I have no 5714 02:47:16,229 --> 02:47:17,463 questions. 5715 02:47:17,463 --> 02:47:19,332 Great finish. 5716 02:47:19,332 --> 02:47:20,299 >> I have just one or two 5717 02:47:20,299 --> 02:47:21,901 questions, I think it's 5718 02:47:21,901 --> 02:47:23,503 appropriate the first thing 5719 02:47:23,503 --> 02:47:25,138 that I passed with your help 5720 02:47:25,138 --> 02:47:28,738 happens to be the last thing 5721 02:47:29,208 --> 02:47:30,609 you're presenting here. 5722 02:47:30,609 --> 02:47:33,580 At the time, we had a 5723 02:47:33,580 --> 02:47:35,415 discussion back in 219 about 5724 02:47:35,415 --> 02:47:36,115 the businesses that will be 5725 02:47:36,115 --> 02:47:37,284 exempt. 5726 02:47:37,284 --> 02:47:38,551 At the time, there were two, 5727 02:47:38,551 --> 02:47:39,452 now there's one from my 5728 02:47:39,452 --> 02:47:40,119 reading o the staff report, 5729 02:47:40,119 --> 02:47:40,820 correct? 5730 02:47:40,820 --> 02:47:42,656 >> that's correct. 5731 02:47:42,656 --> 02:47:42,989 >> they would still be able 5732 02:47:42,989 --> 02:47:44,989 to 5733 02:47:47,794 --> 02:47:49,129 operate based upon the -- I 5734 02:47:49,129 --> 02:47:50,970 guess the criteria, 5735 02:47:50,970 --> 02:47:51,310 grandfathered in. 5736 02:47:51,310 --> 02:47:51,364 Thefrjt would still be able 5737 02:47:51,364 --> 02:47:52,432 to 5738 02:47:52,432 --> 02:47:52,899 operate but anything that 5739 02:47:52,899 --> 02:47:54,301 they 5740 02:47:54,301 --> 02:47:57,301 had that MAY be flavored, 5741 02:47:58,338 --> 02:47:58,704 there are some businesses 5742 02:47:58,704 --> 02:48:00,674 that 5743 02:48:00,674 --> 02:48:01,574 are maybe not compliant with 5744 02:48:01,574 --> 02:48:01,975 our existing ordinance, 5745 02:48:01,975 --> 02:48:03,477 right, 5746 02:48:03,477 --> 02:48:04,911 so it's maybe time to kind of 5747 02:48:04,911 --> 02:48:06,480 do some education and some 5748 02:48:06,480 --> 02:48:08,314 outreach just to make sure 5749 02:48:08,314 --> 02:48:09,716 they're above board with the 5750 02:48:09,716 --> 02:48:11,484 current ordinance but I will 5751 02:48:11,484 --> 02:48:13,820 say that that business would 5752 02:48:13,820 --> 02:48:14,788 not hen be able to sell 5753 02:48:14,788 --> 02:48:17,124 flavored tobacco, they can 5754 02:48:17,124 --> 02:48:18,492 stay in business and sell 5755 02:48:18,492 --> 02:48:19,893 unflavored tobacco but they 5756 02:48:19,893 --> 02:48:20,593 could not sell flavored 5757 02:48:20,593 --> 02:48:22,229 tobacco. 5758 02:48:22,229 --> 02:48:22,896 >> that was kind of the 5759 02:48:22,896 --> 02:48:23,330 conversation that the 5760 02:48:23,330 --> 02:48:24,531 previous 5761 02:48:24,531 --> 02:48:26,320 council had in terms of 5762 02:48:26,320 --> 02:48:27,901 making 5763 02:48:27,901 --> 02:48:29,690 sure that we are not damage 5764 02:48:29,690 --> 02:48:30,537 thing or hurting their 5765 02:48:30,537 --> 02:48:33,307 business in a sense because 5766 02:48:33,307 --> 02:48:33,640 that was a big topic amongst 5767 02:48:33,640 --> 02:48:35,640 us. 5768 02:48:36,577 --> 02:48:37,978 And so I kind of wanted 5769 02:48:37,978 --> 02:48:39,580 clarification on there's like 5770 02:48:39,580 --> 02:48:42,149 signage sometimes I see that 5771 02:48:42,149 --> 02:48:42,850 sells -- that says flavored 5772 02:48:42,850 --> 02:48:44,850 tobacco being sold. 5773 02:48:45,152 --> 02:48:48,152 Is that now being restricted 5774 02:48:50,624 --> 02:48:51,392 in terms of advertisement? 5775 02:48:51,392 --> 02:48:51,792 I'm trying to understand how 5776 02:48:51,792 --> 02:48:52,559 that -- 5777 02:48:52,559 --> 02:48:54,594 >> yeah, so, as I understand 5778 02:48:54,594 --> 02:48:56,994 the new county ordinance, 5779 02:48:57,832 --> 02:48:58,599 unless you have a valid 5780 02:48:58,599 --> 02:49:00,367 tobacco retailer permit, you 5781 02:49:00,367 --> 02:49:00,801 would not be able to 5782 02:49:00,801 --> 02:49:02,200 advertise 5783 02:49:02,200 --> 02:49:04,200 tobacco products. 5784 02:49:04,772 --> 02:49:07,730 >> so, if you had a valid 5785 02:49:07,730 --> 02:49:09,473 license to sell flavored 5786 02:49:09,710 --> 02:49:10,744 tobacco, you are able to have 5787 02:49:10,744 --> 02:49:12,513 that signage? 5788 02:49:12,513 --> 02:49:12,780 >> so, flavored tobacco is 5789 02:49:12,780 --> 02:49:14,780 not 5790 02:49:15,116 --> 02:49:15,483 going to be allowed to be 5791 02:49:15,483 --> 02:49:17,483 sold 5792 02:49:17,552 --> 02:49:20,822 anywhere, so I think that if 5793 02:49:20,822 --> 02:49:22,223 they wanted to advertise like 5794 02:49:22,223 --> 02:49:24,592 cigarettes, they could, and 5795 02:49:24,592 --> 02:49:26,194 honestly if they want to 5796 02:49:26,194 --> 02:49:27,594 advertise flavored tobacco, 5797 02:49:27,594 --> 02:49:29,664 they probably could but I 5798 02:49:29,664 --> 02:49:31,733 don't see if they would if 5799 02:49:31,733 --> 02:49:33,601 they couldn't sell it but I 5800 02:49:33,601 --> 02:49:34,903 guess technically they could. 5801 02:49:34,903 --> 02:49:36,204 I don't know if you have 5802 02:49:36,204 --> 02:49:38,720 comments on that. 5803 02:49:38,720 --> 02:49:40,374 >> okay, I see those signage 5804 02:49:40,374 --> 02:49:41,309 and I always felt like that 5805 02:49:41,309 --> 02:49:42,900 should be restricted, okay. 5806 02:49:42,900 --> 02:49:43,611 >> yeah. 5807 02:49:43,611 --> 02:49:44,779 >> and then could we talk 5808 02:49:44,779 --> 02:49:46,779 about the county 5809 02:49:46,881 --> 02:49:49,184 implementation, so now we are 5810 02:49:49,184 --> 02:49:49,551 going from our own pd in 5811 02:49:49,551 --> 02:49:50,585 terms 5812 02:49:50,585 --> 02:49:52,985 of education and enforcement 5813 02:49:59,227 --> 02:50:00,829 now to the county. 5814 02:50:00,829 --> 02:50:01,329 >> it's twofold t the city 5815 02:50:01,329 --> 02:50:02,464 can 5816 02:50:02,464 --> 02:50:04,900 still enforce, we are looking 5817 02:50:04,900 --> 02:50:06,401 to to the county to do those 5818 02:50:06,401 --> 02:50:08,690 site inspections twice a year 5819 02:50:08,690 --> 02:50:10,469 and to enforce where 5820 02:50:10,739 --> 02:50:12,107 appropriate but definitely I 5821 02:50:12,107 --> 02:50:12,406 know pd will definitely have 5822 02:50:12,406 --> 02:50:14,406 a 5823 02:50:14,743 --> 02:50:15,677 hand in code enforcement and 5824 02:50:15,677 --> 02:50:17,413 code enforcement will also 5825 02:50:17,413 --> 02:50:17,813 have a hand in this th 5826 02:50:17,813 --> 02:50:19,448 and 5827 02:50:19,448 --> 02:50:21,516 once we adopt this, we're 5828 02:50:21,516 --> 02:50:22,840 looking at pushing out 5829 02:50:22,840 --> 02:50:24,840 education first. 5830 02:50:25,821 --> 02:50:27,455 I know lieutenant sair dotty 5831 02:50:27,455 --> 02:50:29,291 was successful in obtaining 5832 02:50:29,291 --> 02:50:31,691 state department of jstice 5833 02:50:32,270 --> 02:50:32,728 tobacco grant for money to do 5834 02:50:32,728 --> 02:50:34,630 outreach and education. 5835 02:50:34,630 --> 02:50:35,731 I don't know, lieutenant, if 5836 02:50:35,731 --> 02:50:36,980 you want to make a comment 5837 02:50:36,980 --> 02:50:38,980 here. 5838 02:50:38,434 --> 02:50:40,736 >> please, come on up. 5839 02:50:40,736 --> 02:50:42,804 >> good ever wantoning, yes, 5840 02:50:42,804 --> 02:50:44,873 the department of justice 5841 02:50:44,873 --> 02:50:45,207 tobacco grant we received, 5842 02:50:45,207 --> 02:50:47,207 our 5843 02:50:49,411 --> 02:50:51,847 primary goal is to provide 5844 02:50:51,847 --> 02:50:52,614 education since the 5845 02:50:52,614 --> 02:50:53,282 implementation of the grant, 5846 02:50:53,282 --> 02:50:54,383 we have gone out to the 5847 02:50:54,383 --> 02:50:54,817 businesses, provided 5848 02:50:54,817 --> 02:50:56,817 pamphlets 5849 02:50:57,119 --> 02:50:57,519 and information on our 5850 02:50:57,519 --> 02:50:59,519 current 5851 02:50:59,988 --> 02:51:00,423 muni code on tobacco 5852 02:51:00,423 --> 02:51:02,423 products, 5853 02:51:02,525 --> 02:51:05,327 checked t see that they were 5854 02:51:05,327 --> 02:51:08,970 in guidelines with our muni 5855 02:51:08,970 --> 02:51:10,132 code, so should we adopt the 5856 02:51:10,132 --> 02:51:10,466 new muni code, we would go 5857 02:51:10,466 --> 02:51:12,466 out 5858 02:51:13,402 --> 02:51:14,537 and implement the new muni 5859 02:51:14,537 --> 02:51:16,172 code, povide eucation, we 5860 02:51:16,172 --> 02:51:17,606 would not be enforcing it at 5861 02:51:17,606 --> 02:51:18,390 this time and just ensure 5862 02:51:18,390 --> 02:51:19,207 that 5863 02:51:19,207 --> 02:51:21,607 all the businesses understand 5864 02:51:22,678 --> 02:51:25,114 that the muni code, so our 5865 02:51:25,114 --> 02:51:26,149 primary action is education 5866 02:51:26,149 --> 02:51:27,750 before enforcement. 5867 02:51:27,750 --> 02:51:28,184 >> now I've seen the 5868 02:51:28,184 --> 02:51:30,860 education 5869 02:51:30,860 --> 02:51:30,453 process when we implemented 5870 02:51:30,453 --> 02:51:32,422 this. 5871 02:51:32,422 --> 02:51:34,891 I started seeing the flavored 5872 02:51:34,891 --> 02:51:36,959 tobacco getting taken away 5873 02:51:36,959 --> 02:51:40,559 like for like the wall fronds 5874 02:51:42,980 --> 02:51:42,799 or the 7th [Hr-e/]-elevens 5875 02:51:42,799 --> 02:51:43,500 where they were primarily 5876 02:51:43,500 --> 02:51:43,866 being sold, I was seeing 5877 02:51:43,866 --> 02:51:44,300 those 5878 02:51:44,300 --> 02:51:46,169 taken out. 5879 02:51:46,169 --> 02:51:48,671 The last question is the 5880 02:51:48,671 --> 02:51:50,306 hookah tobacco, the ordinance 5881 02:51:50,306 --> 02:51:50,740 says if that's still 5882 02:51:50,740 --> 02:51:52,740 permitted 5883 02:51:55,946 --> 02:51:58,714 if a business that's I guess 5884 02:51:58,714 --> 02:51:59,816 allowed 21 -- 21 or older on 5885 02:51:59,816 --> 02:52:02,352 the premise, if you're a 5886 02:52:02,352 --> 02:52:05,352 business that has that, you 5887 02:52:05,354 --> 02:52:07,691 can still continue as long as 5888 02:52:07,691 --> 02:52:09,920 an adult -- I don't want to 5889 02:52:09,920 --> 02:52:10,227 use your terminology in terms 5890 02:52:10,227 --> 02:52:11,728 of 21 and ogler. 5891 02:52:11,728 --> 02:52:12,829 >> we're adopt thing county's 5892 02:52:12,829 --> 02:52:14,464 ordinance which is stricter 5893 02:52:14,464 --> 02:52:16,265 than the state law such that 5894 02:52:16,265 --> 02:52:17,934 hookah would not be allowed. 5895 02:52:17,934 --> 02:52:18,335 >> okay. 5896 02:52:18,335 --> 02:52:19,703 alright. 5897 02:52:19,703 --> 02:52:23,303 That's all I have, thank you. 5898 02:52:23,674 --> 02:52:25,674 >> great, thank you. 5899 02:52:25,776 --> 02:52:27,411 >> so, I do have a question, 5900 02:52:27,411 --> 02:52:29,545 well, I I do sup or the the 5901 02:52:29,545 --> 02:52:31,214 ordinance but my question is 5902 02:52:31,214 --> 02:52:33,614 flavored tobacco has been 5903 02:52:33,784 --> 02:52:35,819 banned if for sometime now 5904 02:52:35,819 --> 02:52:38,288 statewide and yt when I go 5905 02:52:38,288 --> 02:52:39,323 out, there I see flavored 5906 02:52:39,323 --> 02:52:41,323 tobacco everywhere. 5907 02:52:43,494 --> 02:52:45,195 And so my question is, is it 5908 02:52:45,195 --> 02:52:48,195 an isue of enforcement, how 5909 02:52:50,701 --> 02:52:51,402 come it's still so pervasive 5910 02:52:51,402 --> 02:52:53,402 outside? 5911 02:52:56,373 --> 02:52:56,674 >> yeah, I mean, I don't know 5912 02:52:56,674 --> 02:52:58,674 , 5913 02:52:59,176 --> 02:53:01,111 I mean I would say that maybe 5914 02:53:01,111 --> 02:53:02,947 it's enforcement, you know, 5915 02:53:02,947 --> 02:53:06,547 maybe it's, yeah, wi eel pull 5916 02:53:07,251 --> 02:53:09,286 it off the shelf and then a a 5917 02:53:09,286 --> 02:53:10,540 month a a so and put it back 5918 02:53:10,540 --> 02:53:10,888 up, that kind of thing, but I 5919 02:53:10,888 --> 02:53:12,550 can't really speak to why 5920 02:53:12,550 --> 02:53:12,490 it's 5921 02:53:12,490 --> 02:53:14,358 pervasive. 5922 02:53:14,358 --> 02:53:15,526 I would assume it is probably 5923 02:53:15,526 --> 02:53:17,926 just enforcement and just 5924 02:53:18,462 --> 02:53:19,864 being consistent in 5925 02:53:19,864 --> 02:53:20,164 enforcement 5926 02:53:20,164 --> 02:53:22,164 . 5927 02:53:22,166 --> 02:53:24,100 >> and once we provide the 5928 02:53:24,100 --> 02:53:24,334 education to the retailers, 5929 02:53:24,334 --> 02:53:26,334 we 5930 02:53:26,337 --> 02:53:27,538 can also do more town halls 5931 02:53:27,538 --> 02:53:29,373 and invite retailers to 5932 02:53:29,373 --> 02:53:31,909 educate them on the new muni 5933 02:53:31,909 --> 02:53:33,277 code and the laws. 5934 02:53:33,277 --> 02:53:35,346 We would provide a time for 5935 02:53:35,346 --> 02:53:35,947 them to understand it, make 5936 02:53:35,947 --> 02:53:36,414 sure everyone is in 5937 02:53:36,414 --> 02:53:38,414 accordance 5938 02:53:41,190 --> 02:53:41,786 with it and then we can do 5939 02:53:41,786 --> 02:53:43,654 impact inspections similar to 5940 02:53:43,654 --> 02:53:45,657 what we do with our abc grant 5941 02:53:45,657 --> 02:53:46,791 where we go out, we make sure 5942 02:53:46,791 --> 02:53:48,760 they're following all of the 5943 02:53:48,760 --> 02:53:49,127 laws that they have to do 5944 02:53:49,127 --> 02:53:51,127 with 5945 02:53:51,329 --> 02:53:52,730 their license with abc, so we 5946 02:53:52,730 --> 02:53:53,932 could d inspections at these 5947 02:53:53,932 --> 02:53:54,398 retailers to make sure 5948 02:53:54,398 --> 02:53:56,268 they're 5949 02:53:56,268 --> 02:53:57,869 following the guidelines for 5950 02:53:57,869 --> 02:53:59,370 the tobacco products, so that 5951 02:53:59,370 --> 02:54:01,840 is an option we would be able 5952 02:54:01,840 --> 02:54:02,874 to have with that. 5953 02:54:02,874 --> 02:54:04,843 >> sure, thank you. 5954 02:54:04,843 --> 02:54:07,440 >> what's the timeline that 5955 02:54:07,440 --> 02:54:07,379 you allow tem to -- while 5956 02:54:07,379 --> 02:54:09,180 the 5957 02:54:09,180 --> 02:54:10,815 law implements that phase-in, 5958 02:54:10,815 --> 02:54:12,884 what -- is it varying or do 5959 02:54:12,884 --> 02:54:14,860 you work with each one, what 5960 02:54:14,860 --> 02:54:16,486 does it look like? 5961 02:54:17,321 --> 02:54:18,256 >> obviously we don't want to 5962 02:54:18,256 --> 02:54:19,324 go -- 5963 02:54:19,324 --> 02:54:20,559 >> tat's exactly what I'm 5964 02:54:20,559 --> 02:54:22,194 going to. 5965 02:54:22,194 --> 02:54:24,594 >> education has always been 5966 02:54:27,232 --> 02:54:27,566 at the forefront of all of 5967 02:54:27,566 --> 02:54:29,467 our 5968 02:54:29,467 --> 02:54:30,536 grants, with abc as well, so 5969 02:54:30,536 --> 02:54:33,272 we -- the easiest way is to 5970 02:54:33,272 --> 02:54:33,672 kind of explain our abc 5971 02:54:33,672 --> 02:54:35,730 grant, 5972 02:54:35,730 --> 02:54:35,874 for instance we do these 5973 02:54:35,874 --> 02:54:36,240 impact inspections and we 5974 02:54:36,240 --> 02:54:38,240 will 5975 02:54:39,879 --> 02:54:41,279 go out to or retailers, our 5976 02:54:41,279 --> 02:54:44,279 licensees two or three time 5977 02:54:44,550 --> 02:54:46,184 sos the first time we'll go 5978 02:54:46,184 --> 02:54:48,584 over, make sure they're 5979 02:54:48,721 --> 02:54:49,621 following all of the 5980 02:54:49,621 --> 02:54:50,550 regulations for their 5981 02:54:50,550 --> 02:54:51,623 license, 5982 02:54:51,623 --> 02:54:53,240 make sure if they need to 5983 02:54:53,240 --> 02:54:54,793 update anything websinger ear 5984 02:54:54,793 --> 02:54:56,280 write things down, give them 5985 02:54:56,280 --> 02:54:57,762 some pamphlet and is go out 5986 02:54:57,762 --> 02:54:59,797 maybe a month later, check, 5987 02:54:59,797 --> 02:55:00,732 hey, did you fix these things 5988 02:55:00,732 --> 02:55:01,330 we talked about, if they 5989 02:55:01,330 --> 02:55:02,568 still 5990 02:55:02,568 --> 02:55:03,680 need to make some 5991 02:55:03,680 --> 02:55:04,202 corrections, 5992 02:55:04,202 --> 02:55:04,570 we'll write them town and 5993 02:55:04,570 --> 02:55:06,104 then 5994 02:55:06,104 --> 02:55:07,740 come out maybe a couple of 5995 02:55:07,740 --> 02:55:09,341 months later and then if 5996 02:55:09,341 --> 02:55:12,211 they're still not doing it, 5997 02:55:12,211 --> 02:55:15,211 maybe we'll start giving a 5998 02:55:16,820 --> 02:55:17,717 citation or we'll contact abc 5999 02:55:17,717 --> 02:55:18,500 to come out and do it that 6000 02:55:18,500 --> 02:55:20,500 way 6001 02:55:20,486 --> 02:55:22,788 so we'll give them plenty of 6002 02:55:22,788 --> 02:55:24,390 opportunities to correct the 6003 02:55:24,390 --> 02:55:25,591 behavior because they are 6004 02:55:25,591 --> 02:55:27,326 businesses in our city so we 6005 02:55:27,326 --> 02:55:27,727 do want to work with them. 6006 02:55:27,727 --> 02:55:29,727 >> okay. 6007 02:55:29,929 --> 02:55:31,831 Thank you. 6008 02:55:31,831 --> 02:55:33,831 Anyone else, questions? 6009 02:55:34,867 --> 02:55:36,468 I just wanted to know, 6010 02:55:36,468 --> 02:55:38,504 christina, you sent letters 6011 02:55:38,504 --> 02:55:39,739 for this community meeting to 6012 02:55:39,739 --> 02:55:41,707 100 businesses, how many of 6013 02:55:41,707 --> 02:55:42,307 those were tobacco retailers 6014 02:55:42,307 --> 02:55:44,307 approximately? 6015 02:55:44,644 --> 02:55:47,647 >> well, we only have -- so, 6016 02:55:47,647 --> 02:55:49,549 on the book, we have about 45 6017 02:55:49,549 --> 02:55:52,549 tobacco retailers so we sent 6018 02:55:52,585 --> 02:55:54,687 it to the 45 but tlen to 6019 02:55:54,687 --> 02:55:55,210 anyone else who MAY be sort 6020 02:55:55,210 --> 02:55:55,654 of 6021 02:55:55,654 --> 02:55:57,654 associated with it. 6022 02:55:58,424 --> 02:56:00,260 >> but I wanted to highlight 6023 02:56:00,260 --> 02:56:01,294 that no tobacco retailers 6024 02:56:01,294 --> 02:56:01,728 attended any of the three 6025 02:56:01,728 --> 02:56:03,630 meetings. 6026 02:56:03,630 --> 02:56:05,164 >> we had cmmunity members 6027 02:56:05,164 --> 02:56:08,164 come and speak about tobacco 6028 02:56:08,401 --> 02:56:10,637 and how they weren't fans of 6029 02:56:10,637 --> 02:56:11,972 tobacco but we did not have 6030 02:56:11,972 --> 02:56:12,372 any retailers, we had a 6031 02:56:12,372 --> 02:56:13,707 little 6032 02:56:13,707 --> 02:56:14,174 more luck with the surveys 6033 02:56:14,174 --> 02:56:15,108 but 6034 02:56:15,108 --> 02:56:15,474 the surveys indicate that 6035 02:56:15,474 --> 02:56:17,474 most 6036 02:56:18,211 --> 02:56:19,646 folks are compliant with the 6037 02:56:19,646 --> 02:56:20,881 lasers already. 6038 02:56:20,881 --> 02:56:22,282 >> alright. 6039 02:56:22,282 --> 02:56:22,715 Any other questions or 6040 02:56:22,715 --> 02:56:24,618 comments? 6041 02:56:24,618 --> 02:56:25,840 If not, do we have public 6042 02:56:25,840 --> 02:56:26,953 comments? 6043 02:56:26,953 --> 02:56:27,654 >> we do not, mayor. 6044 02:56:27,654 --> 02:56:29,654 >> alright. 6045 02:56:30,423 --> 02:56:32,259 >> before you make -- ask for 6046 02:56:32,259 --> 02:56:34,327 a motion, just one procedural 6047 02:56:34,327 --> 02:56:36,396 point, state law is a little 6048 02:56:36,396 --> 02:56:37,998 bit different when adopting 6049 02:56:37,998 --> 02:56:40,100 the code of another agency by 6050 02:56:40,100 --> 02:56:41,167 reference which is what we're 6051 02:56:41,167 --> 02:56:42,169 doing tonight, you'll still 6052 02:56:42,169 --> 02:56:43,336 introduce it. 6053 02:56:43,336 --> 02:56:45,439 When it comes back, the 6054 02:56:45,439 --> 02:56:46,607 ordinance will not be on 6055 02:56:46,607 --> 02:56:47,400 consent for the second 6056 02:56:47,400 --> 02:56:48,909 reading 6057 02:56:48,909 --> 02:56:51,780 we're required to hold a 6058 02:56:51,780 --> 02:56:52,646 public hearing, so you'll 6059 02:56:52,646 --> 02:56:53,881 still -- there will still be 6060 02:56:53,881 --> 02:56:54,314 two meetings for the 6061 02:56:54,314 --> 02:56:55,549 adoption, 6062 02:56:55,549 --> 02:56:56,917 rather than it appearing on 6063 02:56:56,917 --> 02:56:58,318 consent, it will be a public 6064 02:56:58,318 --> 02:56:59,954 hearing at the second reading. 6065 02:56:59,954 --> 02:57:00,454 >> thank you for that 6066 02:57:00,454 --> 02:57:02,454 clarification. 6067 02:57:02,489 --> 02:57:03,923 With that, do I have a motion? 6068 02:57:03,923 --> 02:57:04,525 >> so moved, MR. Mayor. 6069 02:57:04,525 --> 02:57:05,926 >> I'll second. 6070 02:57:05,926 --> 02:57:06,960 >> I have a first and a 6071 02:57:06,960 --> 02:57:07,861 second, can I have a roll 6072 02:57:07,861 --> 02:57:09,861 call? 6073 02:57:09,963 --> 02:57:10,598 >> vice mayor addiego, 6074 02:57:10,598 --> 02:57:12,990 councilmember nagales? 6075 02:57:12,990 --> 02:57:12,633 >> yes. 6076 02:57:12,633 --> 02:57:14,633 >> mayor flores? 6077 02:57:14,634 --> 02:57:15,335 >> yes. 6078 02:57:15,335 --> 02:57:17,335 >> councilmember nicolas? 6079 02:57:18,439 --> 02:57:20,730 >> yes. 6080 02:57:20,730 --> 02:57:21,800 >> councilmember [Inaudible] 6081 02:57:21,800 --> 02:57:22,142 >> aye. 6082 02:57:22,142 --> 02:57:22,710 >> thank you, I appreciate 6083 02:57:22,710 --> 02:57:23,420 everyone staying. 6084 02:57:23,420 --> 02:57:25,420 Er 6085 02:57:26,847 --> 02:57:28,716 >> moving on to items from 6086 02:57:28,716 --> 02:57:29,500 council, committee reports 6087 02:57:29,500 --> 02:57:30,318 and 6088 02:57:30,318 --> 02:57:31,519 announcements, item 13 is 6089 02:57:31,519 --> 02:57:33,540 consider sending letters of 6090 02:57:33,540 --> 02:57:35,540 support for various 6091 02:57:35,188 --> 02:57:36,624 legislative items. 6092 02:57:36,624 --> 02:57:37,524 >> alright. 6093 02:57:37,524 --> 02:57:39,159 Sharon? 6094 02:57:39,159 --> 02:57:40,940 >> sure, I would be happy to 6095 02:57:40,940 --> 02:57:42,940 speak to this. 6096 02:57:44,231 --> 02:57:46,567 we've provided you with fiver 6097 02:57:46,567 --> 02:57:49,567 -- five letters of support, 6098 02:57:50,271 --> 02:57:52,406 there were deadlines we need 6099 02:57:52,406 --> 02:57:53,740 today meet, a couple of these 6100 02:57:53,740 --> 02:57:53,841 letters have been spent. 6101 02:57:53,841 --> 02:57:56,110 Our practice has been to copy 6102 02:57:56,110 --> 02:57:57,512 council or seek your support, 6103 02:57:57,512 --> 02:57:58,179 so I've got five of them 6104 02:57:58,179 --> 02:58:00,179 here, 6105 02:58:02,583 --> 02:58:05,253 the frst one is regarding 6106 02:58:05,253 --> 02:58:07,253 congressionally directed 6107 02:58:09,157 --> 02:58:09,524 spending for samtrans and 6108 02:58:09,524 --> 02:58:11,920 this 6109 02:58:11,920 --> 02:58:13,492 is to different legislators, 6110 02:58:14,295 --> 02:58:15,463 then we have one here for -- 6111 02:58:15,463 --> 02:58:17,463 three different legislators 6112 02:58:17,799 --> 02:58:19,799 on 6113 02:58:20,802 --> 02:58:22,802 that one, oneshorline 6114 02:58:23,404 --> 02:58:25,804 resilience plan support as 6115 02:58:29,878 --> 02:58:32,278 well as licensing exemption 6116 02:58:32,914 --> 02:58:35,160 and one for weta, and I would 6117 02:58:35,160 --> 02:58:36,518 just add, I'm very supportive 6118 02:58:36,518 --> 02:58:37,840 of doing these letters in 6119 02:58:37,840 --> 02:58:39,840 that 6120 02:58:39,421 --> 02:58:39,888 we often ask these agencies 6121 02:58:39,888 --> 02:58:41,289 to 6122 02:58:41,289 --> 02:58:43,580 write up support letters when 6123 02:58:43,580 --> 02:58:44,559 we're submitting a grant so 6124 02:58:44,559 --> 02:58:45,960 it's reciprocal that we 6125 02:58:45,960 --> 02:58:47,361 support other agencies when 6126 02:58:47,361 --> 02:58:48,763 they're seeking funding so we 6127 02:58:48,763 --> 02:58:50,399 want to mke sure council is 6128 02:58:50,399 --> 02:58:52,701 aware of these letters and 6129 02:58:52,701 --> 02:58:54,770 doesn't have any issues with 6130 02:58:54,770 --> 02:58:56,672 us issuing these? 6131 02:58:56,672 --> 02:58:58,307 >> any comments on these? 6132 02:58:58,307 --> 02:58:58,673 >> for these letters? 6133 02:58:58,673 --> 02:59:00,673 Okay. 6134 02:59:01,777 --> 02:59:03,412 I did want to note there are 6135 02:59:03,412 --> 02:59:04,346 other current bills going 6136 02:59:04,346 --> 02:59:05,948 through committee, initial 6137 02:59:05,948 --> 02:59:06,415 committee in the state 6138 02:59:06,415 --> 02:59:08,415 legislature. 6139 02:59:11,553 --> 02:59:15,153 One of them is assembly bill 6140 02:59:18,194 --> 02:59:18,561 6530 -- 650 from dianne 6141 02:59:18,561 --> 02:59:19,561 papin 6142 02:59:19,561 --> 02:59:22,561 in relation to the housing 6143 02:59:22,898 --> 02:59:23,966 element, I don't know if if 6144 02:59:23,966 --> 02:59:25,834 staff is willing to share on 6145 02:59:25,834 --> 02:59:26,836 that so we can give direction 6146 02:59:26,836 --> 02:59:28,836 for support. 6147 02:59:30,272 --> 02:59:31,440 Nell, you're in the back. 6148 02:59:31,440 --> 02:59:32,307 >> MR. Mayor, are you asking 6149 02:59:32,307 --> 02:59:32,842 for support for that bill 6150 02:59:32,842 --> 02:59:33,142 right now? 6151 02:59:33,142 --> 02:59:35,142 . 6152 02:59:36,579 --> 02:59:37,513 Inger correct, yes. 6153 02:59:37,513 --> 02:59:37,913 >> christina's probably 6154 02:59:37,913 --> 02:59:39,913 better 6155 02:59:41,583 --> 02:59:42,451 suited to answer this. 6156 02:59:42,451 --> 02:59:43,180 >> I apologize, bring her 6157 02:59:43,180 --> 02:59:45,180 back. 6158 02:59:45,321 --> 02:59:46,622 >> it's a spot bill and so we 6159 02:59:46,622 --> 02:59:49,220 don't have legislate iever 6160 02:59:50,993 --> 02:59:51,427 language yet to respond to or 6161 02:59:51,427 --> 02:59:52,961 support. 6162 02:59:52,961 --> 02:59:53,996 We went in a little bit of a 6163 02:59:53,996 --> 02:59:55,264 circle here because we could 6164 02:59:55,264 --> 02:59:57,734 not find the legislation, I 6165 02:59:57,734 --> 02:59:58,934 guess this is why, when it 6166 02:59:58,934 --> 03:00:00,770 appears, we can bring it your 6167 03:00:00,770 --> 03:00:02,770 way. 6168 03:00:02,839 --> 03:00:05,808 >> yeah, so, to be able to 6169 03:00:05,808 --> 03:00:07,744 support at the level of 6170 03:00:07,744 --> 03:00:08,611 providing additional runway, 6171 03:00:08,611 --> 03:00:08,944 additional space for cities 6172 03:00:08,944 --> 03:00:10,713 to 6173 03:00:10,713 --> 03:00:12,282 be able to be compliant and 6174 03:00:12,282 --> 03:00:13,216 be 6175 03:00:13,216 --> 03:00:15,484 able to provide compliance 6176 03:00:15,484 --> 03:00:17,884 with the housing element 6177 03:00:18,870 --> 03:00:19,322 should they not be able to at 6178 03:00:19,322 --> 03:00:21,322 that level too. 6179 03:00:21,691 --> 03:00:23,326 In addition, since it is 6180 03:00:23,326 --> 03:00:24,940 agendized as a letter of 6181 03:00:24,940 --> 03:00:26,494 support, colleagues, some of 6182 03:00:27,430 --> 03:00:27,831 you might be hearing or 6183 03:00:27,831 --> 03:00:29,831 seeing 6184 03:00:30,000 --> 03:00:31,534 our second state senator 6185 03:00:31,534 --> 03:00:33,534 scott 6186 03:00:35,400 --> 03:00:35,705 wiener is supporting a 6187 03:00:35,705 --> 03:00:37,240 regional transportation 6188 03:00:37,240 --> 03:00:37,607 measure that potentially 6189 03:00:37,607 --> 03:00:38,908 could 6190 03:00:38,908 --> 03:00:41,908 support and bring in support 6191 03:00:42,145 --> 03:00:44,714 for san mateo county to 6192 03:00:44,714 --> 03:00:45,480 support caltrain as well as 6193 03:00:45,480 --> 03:00:47,480 to 6194 03:00:47,840 --> 03:00:49,840 support bart. 6195 03:00:50,420 --> 03:00:53,190 at this level, I wouldn't be 6196 03:00:53,190 --> 03:00:53,590 able to, sky, bring in 6197 03:00:53,590 --> 03:00:55,126 support 6198 03:00:55,126 --> 03:00:55,859 because one of our 6199 03:00:55,859 --> 03:00:56,193 councilmembers is connected 6200 03:00:56,193 --> 03:00:57,461 to 6201 03:00:57,461 --> 03:00:57,928 that, is that correct, if I 6202 03:00:57,928 --> 03:00:59,362 wanted to -- 6203 03:00:59,362 --> 03:01:00,264 >> he would just rcuse 6204 03:01:00,264 --> 03:01:01,899 himself. 6205 03:01:01,899 --> 03:01:03,500 >> okay, well, we're looking 6206 03:01:03,500 --> 03:01:05,702 for and when I was talking to 6207 03:01:05,702 --> 03:01:07,370 the city manager, many of 6208 03:01:07,370 --> 03:01:10,370 these agencies are looking to 6209 03:01:10,107 --> 03:01:11,241 not be part of this regional 6210 03:01:11,241 --> 03:01:12,876 transportation measure and 6211 03:01:12,876 --> 03:01:13,377 only three counties instead 6212 03:01:13,377 --> 03:01:14,277 of 6213 03:01:14,277 --> 03:01:16,677 four counties, however, the 6214 03:01:18,115 --> 03:01:18,582 bill has now been designed 6215 03:01:18,582 --> 03:01:20,582 for 6216 03:01:20,984 --> 03:01:22,119 counties or cities to be able 6217 03:01:22,119 --> 03:01:24,119 to opt in. 6218 03:01:24,822 --> 03:01:26,890 If san mateo county wants to 6219 03:01:26,890 --> 03:01:26,557 opt in to b able to 6220 03:01:26,557 --> 03:01:28,557 participate. 6221 03:01:28,926 --> 03:01:29,326 I think as a city that 6222 03:01:29,326 --> 03:01:31,326 heavily 6223 03:01:31,428 --> 03:01:33,297 is supported by caltrain as 6224 03:01:33,297 --> 03:01:34,231 well as -- or has the 6225 03:01:34,231 --> 03:01:34,598 influence of caltrain and 6226 03:01:34,598 --> 03:01:36,300 bart. 6227 03:01:36,300 --> 03:01:38,336 This is important for us. 6228 03:01:38,336 --> 03:01:40,771 This is a measure that 6229 03:01:40,771 --> 03:01:43,771 potentially would be able to 6230 03:01:44,700 --> 03:01:46,760 support a path to potentially 6231 03:01:46,760 --> 03:01:47,110 relieve the debt that 6232 03:01:47,110 --> 03:01:48,846 caltrain 6233 03:01:48,846 --> 03:01:51,246 currently has and bart 6234 03:01:51,615 --> 03:01:52,350 currently has. 6235 03:01:52,350 --> 03:01:52,817 There's mixed opportunities 6236 03:01:52,817 --> 03:01:54,817 right now. 6237 03:01:55,520 --> 03:01:57,355 I think where we stand is I 6238 03:01:57,355 --> 03:01:57,688 believe samtrans board will 6239 03:01:57,688 --> 03:01:59,456 be 6240 03:01:59,456 --> 03:02:01,590 taking a position of I, a 6241 03:02:01,590 --> 03:02:03,459 position on this ballot 6242 03:02:04,328 --> 03:02:05,496 measure or potential ballot 6243 03:02:05,496 --> 03:02:07,980 measure, a senate bill right 6244 03:02:07,980 --> 03:02:09,734 now next week and I wanted to 6245 03:02:09,734 --> 03:02:11,603 see if there's interest so 6246 03:02:11,603 --> 03:02:13,137 that our city manager could 6247 03:02:13,137 --> 03:02:14,873 express not a position 6248 03:02:14,873 --> 03:02:17,873 particular but just to say, 6249 03:02:19,177 --> 03:02:22,177 hey, tink about thens -- 6250 03:02:23,448 --> 03:02:24,248 city ins north county, daly 6251 03:02:24,248 --> 03:02:24,615 city, south san francisco 6252 03:02:24,615 --> 03:02:25,783 that 6253 03:02:25,783 --> 03:02:27,852 we have caltrain and bart, we 6254 03:02:27,852 --> 03:02:28,787 have to be at the table, we 6255 03:02:28,787 --> 03:02:30,454 can't completely be excluded 6256 03:02:30,454 --> 03:02:32,524 aout of a potential funding 6257 03:02:32,524 --> 03:02:34,792 mechanism that will support 6258 03:02:34,792 --> 03:02:35,860 contra costa, al la immediate 6259 03:02:35,860 --> 03:02:38,963 da and san francisco and not 6260 03:02:38,963 --> 03:02:39,931 be at the table when these 6261 03:02:39,931 --> 03:02:41,333 discussions are potentially 6262 03:02:41,333 --> 03:02:42,467 funding support would come 6263 03:02:42,467 --> 03:02:44,467 through. 6264 03:02:45,203 --> 03:02:45,870 That is potentially what this 6265 03:02:45,870 --> 03:02:47,870 regional transportation 6266 03:02:49,474 --> 03:02:49,808 measure would look like right 6267 03:02:49,808 --> 03:02:50,875 now. 6268 03:02:50,875 --> 03:02:53,275 Any questions or any 6269 03:02:53,444 --> 03:02:54,779 additions 6270 03:02:54,779 --> 03:02:57,148 from my colleagues, jump in. 6271 03:02:57,148 --> 03:02:58,917 >> so, I believe we have -- 6272 03:02:58,917 --> 03:03:01,860 there's no language for ab650 6273 03:03:01,860 --> 03:03:02,554 that we should have a more in 6274 03:03:02,554 --> 03:03:04,954 depth discussion on ab650 6275 03:03:05,791 --> 03:03:07,826 because I know that it can go 6276 03:03:07,826 --> 03:03:09,270 in various directions. 6277 03:03:09,270 --> 03:03:11,330 For sb63, I think it's 6278 03:03:11,330 --> 03:03:13,232 important we continue to 6279 03:03:13,232 --> 03:03:15,632 collaborate with our regional 6280 03:03:16,502 --> 03:03:16,869 partners for some sort of 6281 03:03:16,869 --> 03:03:18,570 deal 6282 03:03:18,570 --> 03:03:18,937 that makes sense for san 6283 03:03:18,937 --> 03:03:19,872 mateo 6284 03:03:19,872 --> 03:03:20,806 county but ensures we are 6285 03:03:20,806 --> 03:03:22,806 getting funding and 6286 03:03:24,776 --> 03:03:26,378 contributing to the funding 6287 03:03:26,378 --> 03:03:29,140 that would save caltrain and 6288 03:03:29,140 --> 03:03:31,150 bart from the fiscal cliff 6289 03:03:31,150 --> 03:03:34,119 that they are facing because 6290 03:03:34,119 --> 03:03:37,119 we are potentially going to 6291 03:03:38,157 --> 03:03:41,157 see massive, massive cuts o 6292 03:03:43,762 --> 03:03:47,362 the entire system of bart and 6293 03:03:47,533 --> 03:03:49,234 I think it needs to be known 6294 03:03:49,234 --> 03:03:49,568 that 43% of transit riders 6295 03:03:49,568 --> 03:03:51,568 who 6296 03:03:51,770 --> 03:03:55,370 start in san mateo county end 6297 03:03:56,275 --> 03:03:56,675 up outside of san mateo 6298 03:03:56,675 --> 03:03:57,676 county. 6299 03:03:57,676 --> 03:03:58,844 That is a fakts. 6300 03:03:58,844 --> 03:04:00,713 We can't just have -- and I 6301 03:04:00,713 --> 03:04:04,149 know this is a great council 6302 03:04:04,149 --> 03:04:05,451 and we understand this but 6303 03:04:05,451 --> 03:04:06,486 with the county as an 6304 03:04:06,486 --> 03:04:08,886 audience, we have to 6305 03:04:09,288 --> 03:04:09,689 understand that public 6306 03:04:09,689 --> 03:04:11,570 transit 6307 03:04:11,570 --> 03:04:11,391 does not start and stop in 6308 03:04:11,391 --> 03:04:12,258 san 6309 03:04:12,258 --> 03:04:14,658 mateo, it is regional. 6310 03:04:16,495 --> 03:04:18,965 We need to be part of the 6311 03:04:18,965 --> 03:04:19,665 solution that saves public 6312 03:04:19,665 --> 03:04:20,330 transit in the region but 6313 03:04:20,330 --> 03:04:21,301 also 6314 03:04:21,301 --> 03:04:23,436 ensures that it is the most 6315 03:04:23,436 --> 03:04:25,436 seamless experience possible. 6316 03:04:27,640 --> 03:04:30,276 There are some south in the 6317 03:04:30,276 --> 03:04:31,644 county who believe that only 6318 03:04:31,644 --> 03:04:33,790 caltrain is worth saving. 6319 03:04:33,790 --> 03:04:33,513 There are twice as many 6320 03:04:33,513 --> 03:04:35,513 riders 6321 03:04:35,782 --> 03:04:37,851 on bart than there are 6322 03:04:37,851 --> 03:04:39,719 caltrain in san mateo county. 6323 03:04:39,719 --> 03:04:41,354 And there are many people who 6324 03:04:41,354 --> 03:04:41,754 take caltrain and then 6325 03:04:41,754 --> 03:04:43,223 connect 6326 03:04:43,223 --> 03:04:47,160 to bart to get to their place 6327 03:04:47,160 --> 03:04:49,963 of work or connect to other 6328 03:04:49,963 --> 03:04:52,832 areas and so we need to 6329 03:04:52,832 --> 03:04:54,701 strongly express that we want 6330 03:04:54,701 --> 03:04:55,168 to continue san mateo 6331 03:04:55,168 --> 03:04:56,570 county's 6332 03:04:56,570 --> 03:04:56,969 collaboration in this transit 6333 03:04:56,969 --> 03:04:58,969 measure. 6334 03:05:00,390 --> 03:05:01,474 I think right now we are at a 6335 03:05:01,474 --> 03:05:02,876 cross roads where we could be 6336 03:05:02,876 --> 03:05:06,476 included or we could not be 6337 03:05:07,781 --> 03:05:09,448 include -- included and the 6338 03:05:09,448 --> 03:05:11,351 recent involvement that some 6339 03:05:11,351 --> 03:05:14,540 of our county's leaders have 6340 03:05:14,540 --> 03:05:14,388 had with mtc and with bart 6341 03:05:14,388 --> 03:05:15,822 has 6342 03:05:15,822 --> 03:05:17,558 been very antagonistic that 6343 03:05:17,558 --> 03:05:19,559 has led us to where we are 6344 03:05:19,559 --> 03:05:22,229 today and it's a shame but 6345 03:05:22,229 --> 03:05:22,996 right now it is a time for 6346 03:05:22,996 --> 03:05:24,298 leadership and collaboration 6347 03:05:24,298 --> 03:05:25,466 and we have to work on a deal 6348 03:05:25,466 --> 03:05:27,334 that makes sense that ensure 6349 03:05:27,334 --> 03:05:28,935 that is our public transit 6350 03:05:28,935 --> 03:05:31,238 agencies are well funded for 6351 03:05:31,238 --> 03:05:33,107 the people of san mateo 6352 03:05:33,107 --> 03:05:35,107 county. 6353 03:05:35,175 --> 03:05:36,110 So I would support a more in 6354 03:05:36,110 --> 03:05:36,477 depth discussion on that as 6355 03:05:36,477 --> 03:05:37,478 well. 6356 03:05:37,478 --> 03:05:39,478 Thank you. 6357 03:05:39,613 --> 03:05:41,613 >> anyone else? 6358 03:05:43,350 --> 03:05:44,840 >> I couldn't say it any 6359 03:05:44,840 --> 03:05:45,886 better, councilmember coal 6360 03:05:45,886 --> 03:05:47,654 hanh and I think that is 6361 03:05:47,654 --> 03:05:48,489 classic south county versus 6362 03:05:48,489 --> 03:05:50,570 north county, not an 6363 03:05:50,570 --> 03:05:51,925 appreciation for what we're 6364 03:05:51,925 --> 03:05:52,259 all about and what we bring 6365 03:05:52,259 --> 03:05:53,327 to 6366 03:05:53,327 --> 03:05:55,327 the table. 6367 03:05:59,233 --> 03:06:00,634 >> so, I'm not impinging -- 6368 03:06:00,634 --> 03:06:01,335 jumping into this 6369 03:06:01,335 --> 03:06:02,503 conversation, there was 6370 03:06:02,503 --> 03:06:03,904 another bill that I was 6371 03:06:03,904 --> 03:06:04,238 talking about and it has to 6372 03:06:04,238 --> 03:06:06,238 do 6373 03:06:07,141 --> 03:06:08,509 with public comment and it 6374 03:06:08,509 --> 03:06:10,244 would basically require that 6375 03:06:10,244 --> 03:06:10,644 for every city council 6376 03:06:10,644 --> 03:06:12,644 meeting 6377 03:06:13,814 --> 03:06:15,182 that you would have to allow 6378 03:06:15,182 --> 03:06:17,582 for online participation and 6379 03:06:17,752 --> 03:06:19,153 for that person to be allowed 6380 03:06:19,153 --> 03:06:21,153 for public comment. 6381 03:06:23,191 --> 03:06:24,359 Am I pretty much -- and we 6382 03:06:24,359 --> 03:06:26,294 experienced wat happened and 6383 03:06:26,294 --> 03:06:29,294 I had a conversation with 6384 03:06:29,998 --> 03:06:31,998 nick 6385 03:06:33,500 --> 03:06:34,669 nicolo, our lobbyist up in 6386 03:06:34,669 --> 03:06:37,690 sacramento, and he was 6387 03:06:38,873 --> 03:06:39,173 interested in what happened, 6388 03:06:39,173 --> 03:06:41,900 I 6389 03:06:41,900 --> 03:06:42,877 requested to the city manager 6390 03:06:42,877 --> 03:06:43,878 to do a letter on what 6391 03:06:43,878 --> 03:06:45,580 happened that night, there's 6392 03:06:45,580 --> 03:06:47,515 an interest in doing this, I 6393 03:06:47,515 --> 03:06:49,217 would like to see us doing 6394 03:06:49,217 --> 03:06:50,151 that moving forward, not 6395 03:06:50,151 --> 03:06:50,484 taking a position about it 6396 03:06:50,484 --> 03:06:51,319 but 6397 03:06:51,319 --> 03:06:51,820 explaining to the author, 6398 03:06:51,820 --> 03:06:53,654 this 6399 03:06:53,654 --> 03:06:54,322 is what we experienced when 6400 03:06:54,322 --> 03:06:55,957 we 6401 03:06:55,957 --> 03:06:56,724 allow for public comment 6402 03:06:56,724 --> 03:06:57,792 happening on vao 6403 03:06:57,792 --> 03:06:58,527 m where we 6404 03:06:58,527 --> 03:07:00,394 really couldn't control it. 6405 03:07:00,394 --> 03:07:02,394 >> thank you, councilmember, 6406 03:07:02,431 --> 03:07:03,198 really important point and I 6407 03:07:03,198 --> 03:07:04,332 appreciate you bringing that 6408 03:07:04,332 --> 03:07:05,934 up as well. 6409 03:07:05,934 --> 03:07:08,770 Just to separate, more just 6410 03:07:08,770 --> 03:07:10,639 tracking and monitoring on 6411 03:07:10,639 --> 03:07:11,340 ab650, I'm hearing support 6412 03:07:11,340 --> 03:07:12,274 for 6413 03:07:12,274 --> 03:07:14,674 the regional transit masure 6414 03:07:15,710 --> 03:07:16,744 on that and then sending a 6415 03:07:16,744 --> 03:07:18,280 letter to illustrate what 6416 03:07:18,280 --> 03:07:18,613 occurred here and how that 6417 03:07:18,613 --> 03:07:20,613 has 6418 03:07:20,616 --> 03:07:21,983 affected south san francisco. 6419 03:07:21,983 --> 03:07:22,917 MADAM City manager, do you 6420 03:07:22,917 --> 03:07:23,885 have enough direction? 6421 03:07:23,885 --> 03:07:26,285 >> I do, thank you. 6422 03:07:26,521 --> 03:07:27,523 >> alright, thank you. 6423 03:07:27,523 --> 03:07:28,657 Next agenda item, thank you, 6424 03:07:28,657 --> 03:07:30,292 colleagues. 6425 03:07:30,292 --> 03:07:31,727 >> moving on to closed 6426 03:07:31,727 --> 03:07:34,329 session, item number 14 is a 6427 03:07:34,329 --> 03:07:34,797 conference with legal 6428 03:07:34,797 --> 03:07:35,497 counsel, 6429 03:07:35,497 --> 03:07:36,431 anticipated litigation, 6430 03:07:36,431 --> 03:07:38,431 initiation of litigation 6431 03:07:40,568 --> 03:07:41,637 pursuant to government code 6432 03:07:41,637 --> 03:07:43,339 section 54956.9d4, one 6433 03:07:43,339 --> 03:07:45,207 potential case. 6434 03:07:45,207 --> 03:07:46,141 Item 15 is conference with 6435 03:07:46,141 --> 03:07:48,141 real property negotiators, 6436 03:07:49,845 --> 03:07:50,979 pursuant to government code 6437 03:07:50,979 --> 03:07:52,979 section 54956.8, properties, 6438 03:07:53,549 --> 03:07:56,549 parcels on sign hill, south 6439 03:08:05,694 --> 03:08:08,940 san francisco, apn numbers 6440 03:08:13,669 --> 03:08:16,690 012-351-020, 012-351-030, 6441 03:08:21,277 --> 03:08:23,677 012-024-060, 012-024-070, 6442 03:08:25,614 --> 03:08:28,140 012-04-080, 012-024-090, 6443 03:08:30,486 --> 03:08:31,187 012-024-100, 012-024-110 and 6444 03:08:31,187 --> 03:08:32,822 012-024-120. 6445 03:08:32,822 --> 03:08:33,990 agency negotiators, nell 6446 03:08:33,990 --> 03:08:35,391 selander, economic and 6447 03:08:35,391 --> 03:08:36,793 community development 6448 03:08:36,793 --> 03:08:38,228 director, greg mediati, parks 6449 03:08:38,228 --> 03:08:40,628 and recreation director and 6450 03:08:40,997 --> 03:08:42,631 sky woodruff, city attorney. 6451 03:08:42,631 --> 03:08:43,800 Negotiating parties, syme 6452 03:08:43,800 --> 03:08:45,201 venture partners lp, under 6453 03:08:45,201 --> 03:08:46,836 negotiation, price and terms. 6454 03:08:46,836 --> 03:08:47,137 >> thank you, everyone, have 6455 03:08:47,137 --> 03:08:48,471 a 6456 03:08:48,471 --> 03:08:49,105 good evening, we're adjourned 6457 03:08:49,105 --> 03:08:51,700 to closed session. 6458 03:08:51,700 --> 03:08:52,775 Thank you. 6459 03:08:52,775 --> 03:08:55,175 (Meeting adjourned to closed