[0:15] city council meeting.
[0:16] >> good ever wantoning, I
[0:17] would like to call the
[0:18] regular
[0:21] city council meeting for
[0:24] wednesday MARCH 26, 2025 to
[0:24] order.
[0:27] MAY I please have roll call.
[0:28] >> councilmember coleman?
[0:29] >> here.
[0:29] >> councilmember nagales?
[0:31] >> here.
[0:32] >> councilmember nicolas
[0:32] ?Frjts present.
[0:33] >> vice mayor addiego?
[0:35] >> here.
[0:35] >> mayor flores?
[0:38] >> I am present, thank you.
[0:41] Tonight we have as I've been
[0:42] doing two special guests that
[0:44] will lead us in pledge of
[0:45] allegiance.
[0:48] I would like to invite
[0:50] jonathan I.Pak who is five
[0:52] years old in transitional
[0:54] kindergarten at our lady o
[0:55] mercy.
[0:58] He also plays tee ball for
[0:59] south san francisco yuth
[1:02] baseball and he's in the kids
[1:06] gym in south city as well as
[1:08] dylan munsayak who is 14
[1:09] years
[1:14] old, 8th grader at st.
[1:17] Veronica's sx, teen gym in
[1:19] south city to lead us in the
[1:21] pledge of allegiance this
[1:22] evening, so please stand if
[1:23] you are able to and place
[1:24] your
[1:24] right has happened over your
[1:26] heart and I will have them
[1:31] lead us in the pledge of
[1:34] allegiance.
[1:35] >> I pledge allegiance to the
[1:36] flag of the united states of
[1:37] america and to the republic
[1:37] for which it stands one
[1:38] nation
[1:39] under GOD, indivisible, with
[1:46] liberty and justice for all.
[1:49] >> thank you very much.
[1:51] Stay right tl. Let's give
[1:51] them
[1:53] a hand, why don't we do that.
[1:54] [Applause].
[1:56] And I would like to present
[1:58] dylan and jonathan with two
[1:59] of
[2:02] our official city key pins
[2:07] this evening, so I'll come
[2:11] down and we'll take a picture.
[2:14] >> he's coming down.
[2:46] (Taking photograph).
[2:47] >> great.
[2:52] Let's have next agenda item,
[2:53] please.
[2:54] >> thank you, MAY yo, moving
[2:55] on to agenda review.
[2:58] >> we hve no changes to the
[2:59] agenda, mayor flores.
[2:59] >> thank you.
[3:02] >> thank you, moving on to
[3:03] levine act disclosures, does
[3:04] the council have anything to
[3:05] report tonight?
[3:07] Thank you.
[3:09] And we'll move on to
[3:10] announcements pr staff.
[3:23] >> great.
[3:25] >> welcome, chief samson?
[3:26] >> thank you, I'm trying to
[3:30] get the slide up here.
[3:32] I'm going to stop before I
[3:32] get
[3:34] too crazy.
[3:39] >> good evening, mayor eddie,
[3:42] matt samson, your fire chief,
[3:43] first we're incredibly
[3:44] excited
[3:46] for next friday the 4th, it's
[3:49] a really big day for nt only
[3:50] our department but for our
[3:54] city to christen the city's
[3:55] brand new fire boat, it will
[3:59] take place on friday the 4th
[4:00] at oyster point, a little
[4:01] history of the water rescue
[4:03] program ask a water show and
[4:05] ip viet the public on the
[4:05] boat
[4:06] for tours if they'd like to
[4:07] come.
[4:09] We hope to see everyone there.
[4:11] Second, in support of our
[4:12] public outreach to help
[4:13] inform
[4:13] our community about the
[4:14] impact
[4:17] tos the state's most recent
[4:18] fire hazard severity zone
[4:18] maps
[4:19] released at the end of
[4:21] FEBRUARY websinger ear
[4:21] hosting
[4:23] our town hall 65 at the terra
[4:26] bay neighborhood up on APRIL
[4:29] 7, that will go from 6:30 to
[4:30] 8:30 and we're here to answer
[4:33] questions regarding the fire
[4:34] hazard severity zone mps but
[4:36] also anything wild fire
[4:37] related, any comments or
[4:38] comments or anything the
[4:41] public would like to know how
[4:42] they can make their home
[4:42] safer
[4:44] from wild fire and is the
[4:44] town
[4:46] hall is open to anyone in the
[4:50] city, we hope to see everyone
[4:50] there.
[4:51] >> I have a question.
[4:52] >> please.
[4:56] >> if I could, so I know that
[4:59] these fire hazard severity
[5:02] maps, are they through fema
[5:03] ?Frnlts they're produced by
[5:05] cal fire and they're released
[5:07] by mandate under state
[5:08] ordinance to incorporate all
[5:09] the etire state of
[5:10] california.
[5:12] >> where you fall on that
[5:14] map,
[5:15] does that determine maybe an
[5:16] impact to your home insurance?
[5:18] >> that is a current concern
[5:20] right now, we've been assured
[5:23] that these maps do not impact
[5:24] insurance rate and is we'll
[5:26] spend a a quite a bit of time
[5:28] why we agree with that
[5:29] perspective during the town
[5:30] hall.
[5:31] >> okay, thank you, chief.
[5:35] >> thank you.
[5:38] >> we'll go on without the
[5:41] slide, but I'm very excited
[5:42] also as the third
[5:42] announcement
[5:44] tonight, I would like to
[5:45] announce officially and
[5:47] introduce our new dputy fire
[5:50] chief, devon flannery, he's
[5:54] been with the city for 23
[5:56] years, and started in the
[5:56] fire
[6:01] service as an explorer and
[6:04] spent quite a bit of time in
[6:06] the pacific palisades area.
[6:07] With our department, chief
[6:11] flannery has served as
[6:12] paramedic firefighter, ba tan
[6:20] I -- battalion fire chief.
[6:22] Chief flannery has invested
[6:22] in
[6:24] his own education, he was
[6:24] able
[6:26] to obtain his undergarage
[6:27] walt
[6:29] degree from san francisco
[6:30] state, a doctoral degree f
[6:31] the university of southern
[6:32] california in education so,
[6:33] he
[6:34] brings a unique skill set and
[6:37] a lot of capabilities to our
[6:37] department.
[6:39] We're going to leverage him
[6:39] to
[6:41] make sure we can advance the
[6:43] department to the future, s
[6:44] I'm excited and I would like
[6:46] to bring him up for a few
[6:46] words.
[6:51] >> con -- congratulations,
[6:54] let's bring him up, please.
[6:56] [Applause].
[6:57] >> good evening, council, i
[6:59] want to thank the fire chief
[7:00] for believes in me, it's been
[7:02] a a pleasure to serve the
[7:02] city
[7:03] the last 230 23
[7:03] years, I
[7:04] look
[7:06] forward to the next
[7:07] opportunity in my new role
[7:08] and
[7:09] using my skill set to further
[7:10] the mission of the fire
[7:11] department, I want to thank
[7:11] everybody.
[7:18] >> thank you, con fwrafp --
[7:19] congratulations again.
[7:22] >> thank you.
[7:23] [Applause].
[7:25] >> alright, now I would like
[7:28] to do a special I guess
[7:29] announcement, recognition and
[7:30] for that, I would like to
[7:31] turn
[7:33] it over to our city manager,
[7:34] sharon ranals.
[7:36] >> good evening, I'm sharon
[7:37] ranals, city manager, she is
[7:38] not expecting this but I
[7:38] would
[7:41] like to call up christina
[7:48] fernandez if I could.
[7:50] Hi, chris taoep na.
[7:50] >> hi.
[7:51] Er
[7:53] >> so, tonight is
[7:53] christina's
[7:55] last city council meeting as
[7:55] a
[7:57] city employee, we hope to see
[8:01] her at future council
[8:01] meetings
[8:03] because she is still a a
[8:03] resident, christina has
[8:04] accepted a position as the
[8:05] assistant city manager with
[8:06] the city of brisbane which is
[8:07] a promotional opportunity for
[8:08] her so we're happy for
[8:10] christina but we are very sad
[8:12] to see her go.
[8:13] christina has been in the
[8:14] city
[8:15] manager's office for six
[8:15] years
[8:16] and during that time, she's
[8:19] worked on a number of
[8:19] projects
[8:21] including many grant
[8:22] applications, many grant
[8:23] reports, legislative niche
[8:23] yat
[8:26] I fevers such as minimum
[8:26] wage,
[8:28] styrofoam reach codes and
[8:30] could back koe which we'll
[8:32] hear about and emergency
[8:32] response.
[8:34] She has also been our
[8:35] sustainability officer and
[8:36] has
[8:37] served as staff liaison with
[8:37] a
[8:40] null of outside agencies such
[8:42] as wet sxa, the harbor
[8:44] district, one of christina's
[8:45] major projects has been to
[8:48] establish a a community
[8:49] district which is progress
[8:51] thanks to her effort and is
[8:51] we
[8:52] hope it will be successful.
[8:53] I think there's a special
[8:54] bond
[8:56] among the staff who served
[8:58] during covid and christina
[8:58] was
[9:00] really instrumental in
[9:02] organizing -- I'm getting
[9:04] choked up -- covid was a
[9:08] trying time, she was
[9:10] instrumental in organizing
[9:10] vaccination clinic, food
[9:11] distributions, maintaining
[9:11] the
[9:12] continuity of operations as
[9:14] well as staff morale and we
[9:16] owe her a lot of appreciation.
[9:18] So w that, I have this little
[9:20] token of appreciation which
[9:21] christina, I want dwrou hang
[9:24] this in your office in
[9:26] brisbane, just a reminder of
[9:29] all your friends in south san
[9:34] francisco.
[9:36] >> oh my gosh, thank you.
[9:39] >> nice picture of city hall.
[9:43] >> thank you so much.
[9:44] [Applause].
[9:47] And I'm putting you on the
[9:48] spot, I don't know if you
[9:49] want
[9:50] to say a few words.
[9:51] >> first of all, thank you so
[9:52] much to sharon and to
[9:52] everyone
[9:55] and to all of you for your
[9:56] leadership.
[9:57] You know, when I was brought
[10:00] on board, I wasn't quite sure
[10:01] what to expect.
[10:03] Initially I was to serve as a
[10:04] commissioner for the city and
[10:07] then I got recruited to come
[10:10] work for the city and for
[10:10] that
[10:11] I'm forever grateful.
[10:12] I have a vested interest in
[10:14] seeing the city succeed and
[10:15] I'm very, very proud of the
[10:18] work that the staff has done,
[10:19] the staff goes above and
[10:21] beyond every day for the
[10:22] community and I just feel so
[10:24] grateful to have been a small
[10:27] part of it, just a big thanks
[10:28] to sharon for her leadership
[10:31] and to all of you for your
[10:31] leadership and just thank you
[10:35] so much.
[10:37] [Applause].
[10:39] >> any comments from my
[10:40] colleagues on the dais?
[10:41] >> MR. Mayor?
[10:43] >> yes.
[10:46] >> as christina staining a
[10:46] picture, christina, I wanted
[10:48] to say thank you for all your
[10:49] amazing work, you're
[10:50] absolutely right, you first
[10:51] --
[10:53] we first met you as someone
[10:54] applying as a commissioner I
[10:55] think to the planning
[10:57] commission I think it was.
[10:58] >> general plan.
[11:00] >> general plan, that' right.
[11:03] We were so amazed by you that
[11:04] we wanted to hire you.
[11:07] I just wanted to say thank
[11:09] you, this city really owes a
[11:11] great debt to you for all the
[11:12] great work you've done and
[11:12] the
[11:14] fact that you are -- ask
[11:14] still
[11:17] are a south city resident
[11:17] gave
[11:19] a unique perspective in terms
[11:20] of issues happening in south
[11:21] san francisco.
[11:23] I know you're not too far
[11:23] away
[11:26] as you go up north --
[11:27] >> a town over.
[11:28] >> but we know you're only a
[11:29] a
[11:31] phone call away if we need
[11:31] anything.
[11:32] >> absolutely.
[11:33] >> thank you very much.
[11:35] >> thank you, councilmember.
[11:36] Anyone else?
[11:37] >> christina, of course, when
[11:39] I ws mayor, you have been a
[11:41] tremendous help and I really
[11:41] do appreciate all that you
[11:44] have done for us and for the
[11:46] city, and as a woman, I am
[11:47] very supportive of you
[11:49] climbing up the career
[11:49] ladder,
[11:52] more power to you and I'll be
[11:53] here to support you all the
[11:53] time.
[11:54] Thank you, cristina.
[11:57] >> thank you.
[11:59] >> I will say you are a
[12:01] resident of the best district
[12:02] in south san francisco and
[12:03] now
[12:04] that -- I know it was
[12:06] mentioned earlier, now that
[12:07] you're no longer employed by
[12:08] the city, maybe you could
[12:09] join
[12:10] a commission and continue to
[12:12] just be around and contribute
[12:14] b so many of your talents and
[12:16] you have many talents that
[12:18] pansies so many different
[12:22] topic areas as we noticed the
[12:24] city manager said you've done
[12:25] lots of diverse work tere
[12:26] and
[12:29] your work on sustainability
[12:31] which the city with reach
[12:37] codes, with the poorly l --
[12:40] polystyrene ban, I hope to
[12:42] susie you come back in the
[12:42] future.
[12:45] >> sharon hosted a lunch at
[12:47] city hall and we got the
[12:48] express ourselves and I said
[12:51] how nice it was for south san
[12:53] francisco to have an
[12:55] operative, I had a dream of
[12:56] annexation but you don't have
[12:57] to foat that yet.
[13:00] You can't be any closer than
[13:01] brisbane, good luck to you.
[13:03] >> thank you.
[13:04] >> equally grateful for your
[13:05] time, for your dedication but
[13:07] most importantly for your
[13:09] passion as it was said as a
[13:10] resident, you certainly care
[13:13] about the city and it was
[13:15] highlighted and underscored
[13:15] in
[13:16] every presentation and every
[13:19] staff report that you
[13:19] provided
[13:19] and shared.
[13:21] Thank you for representing,
[13:23] for being a true resident
[13:24] like
[13:26] many in this hall and around
[13:27] our community that really
[13:27] care
[13:28] about south san francisco, so
[13:30] con grafp lacing, GOD's speed
[13:30] to you.
[13:32] If I could ask city manager
[13:33] and council to join me down
[13:35] here fr a picture wth
[13:37] christina, please.
[14:21] (Taking photograph).
[14:22] >> thank you very much.
[14:24] Now we're moving o to the
[14:25] next agenda item.
[14:27] >> thank you, mayor, moving
[14:28] on
[14:31] to proclamations,
[14:31] proclamation
[14:33] recognizing APRIL as fair
[14:34] housing months.
[14:34] >> I've asked councilmember
[14:36] mark nagales to present this
[14:36] proclamation.
[14:40] >> this is an honor for me to
[14:42] recognize the month of APRIL
[14:43] as fair housing month.
[14:47] I had the distinct honor to
[14:50] work with project sentinel
[14:51] where we helped numerous
[14:51] south
[14:54] san francisco residents with
[14:55] tenant/landlord issues ask
[14:56] fair housing issues.
[14:59] You know, you would be
[15:00] surprised at the fact of the
[15:03] number of residents who will
[15:05] get denied for rental units
[15:05] or
[15:08] for housing based upon their
[15:11] gender or their age or the
[15:15] fact they had children and it
[15:17] was organization like project
[15:19] sentinel who went above and
[15:22] beyond to make sure all our
[15:23] residents had accessible to
[15:24] fair housing so I'm honored
[15:25] to
[15:26] recognize APRIL as fair
[15:28] housing month and to read a
[15:30] proclamation where it says
[15:32] whereas housing is a basic
[15:34] right of all people and where
[15:36] this year we celebrate the
[15:37] 57th anniversary of the
[15:39] federal fair housing act of
[15:41] 1968 which states that
[15:42] discrimination t sale and
[15:45] rental of housing is illegal
[15:48] and based on race, national
[15:49] origin, whereas the fair
[15:51] housing amendment act extend
[15:56] fair housing rights on
[15:57] familial status to people
[15:58] with
[16:00] children, and whereas
[16:02] california statutes protect
[16:04] its citizens on the basis of
[16:05] age, sexual orientation,
[16:07] gender identity and source of
[16:09] income and california
[16:10] celebrates the 66th
[16:11] anniversary of the fair
[16:12] employment and housing act
[16:12] and
[16:14] whereas the city of south san
[16:15] francisco supports fair
[16:17] housing efforts to eliminate
[16:18] discrimination in housing and
[16:19] recognizes the benefits of
[16:22] project sentinel to educate
[16:23] home seekers, apartment
[16:23] owners
[16:25] on federal and state housing
[16:27] laws and investigate
[16:28] complaints of illegal housing
[16:29] discrimination in south san
[16:31] francisco, whereas the
[16:32] heightened public awareness,
[16:33] the city of south san
[16:35] francisco wishes to focus
[16:37] public attention of APRIL as
[16:38] fair housing mother, now
[16:40] therefore be it resolved the
[16:42] city council of the city of
[16:45] south san francisco does
[16:47] recognize APRIL as fair
[16:48] housing month and encouraging
[16:49] all residents and community
[16:49] organizations to celebrate
[16:50] the
[16:53] value of harm nows and diverse
[16:54] [Inaudible] With neighbor and
[16:56] is this is signed by the
[16:57] entire city council and I'm
[17:00] going to ask jacob to accept
[17:04] this proclamation, jacob?
[17:21] >> welcome.
[17:24] >> so, my name's jacob, I'm a
[17:26] fair housing coordinator at
[17:26] project sentinel, I first
[17:27] want
[17:29] to thank the city council for
[17:33] your continued support of
[17:34] project sentinel.
[17:36] You know, it's been a
[17:38] difficult couple of weeks for
[17:45] fair housing.
[17:48] The public was caught around
[17:50] 60-70%, our projects were
[17:50] just
[17:52] cut from the federal
[17:54] government and, you know, our
[17:57] funding has really taken --
[17:59] we've had to take some
[17:59] drastic
[18:04] measures with our funding.
[18:06] Cities like south city
[18:07] provide
[18:08] a lot for us and it
[18:09] solidifies
[18:10] the relationship that we have
[18:14] with the cities that we work
[18:14] with.
[18:16] So, yeah, again, I want to
[18:18] thank this council for your
[18:19] continued support and I look
[18:21] forward to this year and many
[18:22] more to come.
[18:29] >> thank you very much.
[18:29] [Applause].
[18:30] >> thank you.
[18:33] >> thank you again.
[18:34] Next agenda item, please.
[18:35] >> thank you, moving on the
[18:37] item 2 is a presentation on
[18:38] the san mateo county
[18:39] accessory
[18:42] dwelling unit adu resource
[18:43] center.
[18:44] >> good evening, mayor, vice
[18:46] MAY yo, councilmembers, billy
[18:47] gross with the planning
[18:48] commission and I have the
[18:50] pleasure of presenting the
[18:51] next speaker.
[18:53] As you all know, the adu
[18:55] resource center of san mateo
[19:00] county opened in 2024.
[19:02] It's intended as a one stop
[19:03] shop for adu resources.
[19:04] We thought it would be the
[19:06] director had offered to come
[19:08] and speak so we thought it
[19:09] would be good as we were
[19:10] going
[19:12] to be in front of you talk
[19:16] about the general plan and
[19:17] housing project, so I would
[19:25] like to introduce anna
[19:26] alekseyeva, she'll go through
[19:27] the program.
[19:28] >> thank you for giving me an
[19:30] opportunity to present the
[19:30] adu
[19:31] resource center.
[19:32] I want to give you a sense of
[19:35] what the center is all about
[19:37] sdp&services it provides to
[19:38] home owners in member
[19:39] justices
[19:39] teases including south city.
[19:40] Before I do that, I wanted to
[19:42] set the stage a little bit
[19:44] about adu's in the state and
[19:45] more locally which you will
[19:48] probably be familiar with.
[19:50] Adu's are really popular
[19:52] housing typology, ever since
[19:55] the state started
[19:56] liberalizing
[19:57] adu statute across
[19:57] california,
[20:00] the number of adu's that are
[20:02] built every single year has
[20:04] grown something like 15
[20:07] thousand percent, so hugely,
[20:10] hugely popular housing type.
[20:11] Most recent data suggesters
[20:14] that one in five new units in
[20:15] california housing units is
[20:15] an
[20:17] adu, if you look at lower
[20:19] income or very low income,
[20:20] housing units, that
[20:21] percentage
[20:23] is high e more than one third
[20:24] of housing units are adu's,
[20:25] so
[20:26] of course it's not the only
[20:28] housing type but it is an
[20:29] important one across the
[20:30] state
[20:31] and more locally in sn mateo
[20:33] and in south city.
[20:35] And I think billy aluded to
[20:37] the housing element and
[20:38] progress the city has made
[20:40] around the most recent rhna
[20:42] cycle but south city has a
[20:44] goal of producing almost 400
[20:47] adu's in the current 8 year
[20:48] rhna cycle of which the
[20:50] majority are projected to be
[20:52] at the low icome or very low
[20:53] income levels.
[20:56] So we like adu's for a lot of
[20:56] reasons.
[20:58] One, because it's a housing
[21:03] type and more housing is GOD
[21:05] but they're also a housing
[21:07] type, they allow for
[21:08] multigenerational living,
[21:09] they
[21:12] have a wealth building tool,
[21:14] they are smaller so they have
[21:14] environmental and
[21:15] sustainability benefit and is
[21:17] we know older adults like
[21:18] them
[21:20] because they allow them to
[21:20] age
[21:21] in place without having to
[21:22] leave their community.
[21:24] Is wah is adu resource
[21:24] center,
[21:27] it was launched in SEPTEMBER
[21:31] of 2024, so we just had our
[21:33] six month birthday, not --
[21:34] still baby hood when it comes
[21:36] to being an organization, but
[21:37] wanted to share some of the
[21:40] services we have live already.
[21:41] Working with jurisdictions
[21:42] and
[21:43] with home owners.
[21:45] It is a non-profit
[21:46] organization, the funding
[21:48] primarily comes from local
[21:49] jurisdictions like south city
[21:50] f city.
[21:52] The goal is t drive housing
[21:53] production by being a one
[21:54] stop
[21:56] shop to help get adu's built.
[21:59] We do that through two
[22:00] different mechanisms, one is
[22:02] working with jurisdictions to
[22:04] meet their adu policy goals
[22:06] and the second is working
[22:07] with
[22:08] home owners directly
[22:09] providing
[22:10] resources and direct
[22:10] technical
[22:11] assistance so I wanted to
[22:11] give
[22:13] you a flavor of each of these
[22:16] areas so you know what's
[22:19] offered to residents and sto
[22:20] -- to staff, the center
[22:22] provides a raping of support
[22:24] around housing element
[22:25] implementation related to adu
[22:27] policy goals, it elapses
[22:28] jurisdictions stay in
[22:30] compliance with hcd
[22:31] expectations and understand
[22:33] what the latest adu statutes,
[22:36] rules and standards are.
[22:37] And helps jurisdictions stay
[22:40] up to date about the latest
[22:42] adu best practices and what's
[22:44] going on at the state level.
[22:47] As you all probably know very
[22:49] well, state housing law
[22:51] changes rapidly, every sickle
[22:53] year, that is the same for
[22:53] adu
[22:54] laws, so every single year,
[22:56] there's a slate of new adu
[22:57] bills that are passed and go
[22:59] into effect and it can be
[22:59] hard
[23:01] to keep up with any o them.
[23:02] And so one of the roles of
[23:03] the
[23:05] center is to make sure that
[23:07] staff understand what the
[23:08] latest rules and statutes
[23:09] are,
[23:11] going to go through a lecture
[23:11] of the adu standards because
[23:14] that would be an a hour
[23:15] lecture, as you can see on
[23:15] the
[23:17] right hand side of the slide,
[23:19] I noted a few laws that went
[23:21] into effect this year, all of
[23:23] them in some way, shape or
[23:24] form encouraging adu's are
[23:26] making it easier to build
[23:27] adu's.
[23:28] One law I want to call to
[23:28] your
[23:30] attention in particular is
[23:32] legalization of unpermitted
[23:34] units, so the state as of
[23:37] JANUARY of this year has made
[23:39] it easier the legalize
[23:44] unpermitted adu's, we no in
[23:47] some place, the ratio is one
[23:48] to three depending on the
[23:49] jurisdiction, this has a
[23:51] potential to have pretty
[23:52] substantial long term effects
[23:54] down the road in terms of
[23:55] bringing unpermitted units on
[23:56] to the market.
[23:57] Something else that the
[23:57] center
[24:04] is working on is it's working
[24:07] on affordable adu program,
[24:08] these programs have been
[24:08] tried
[24:09] in different place ins
[24:10] california and adrsz
[24:11] f cross
[24:11] the knotty
[24:12] f ri.
[24:15] What they do is provide some
[24:16] financial incentive for home
[24:18] own teaser build an adu and
[24:19] those home owners are
[24:19] required
[24:22] to rent their adu's at
[24:24] affordable rates so it's
[24:25] below
[24:26] market rate housing program
[24:28] that subsidizes home owners
[24:28] directly.
[24:29] There's interesting pilots
[24:31] that have been tried in
[24:32] different places that we're
[24:34] exploring and the goal is to
[24:36] have a program model that any
[24:37] jurisdiction in the county
[24:37] can
[24:39] participate in with the goal
[24:40] of launching next year, so
[24:43] very excited about that and
[24:44] innovating in that space.
[24:46] And in terms of the services
[24:48] to hope own oers, you can
[24:48] find
[24:53] a lot of information on the
[24:54] website, smadu.Org, this is
[24:55] just some of the resources we
[24:59] have op the website, a very
[25:00] comprehensive guide book
[25:01] around the different stages
[25:02] of
[25:04] building an adu specific to
[25:06] with local information, we
[25:09] have local rules for every
[25:10] jurisdiction including south
[25:12] city, we have stories of
[25:13] residents who have built
[25:14] adu's
[25:16] in different use case, we
[25:16] have
[25:18] a proprietary tol that
[25:18] allows
[25:21] people to put in some details
[25:22] about a prospective project
[25:25] and get an estimate of the
[25:26] projected project cost and is
[25:28] the return on investment
[25:28] which
[25:30] they can expect which is
[25:30] based
[25:32] on hyperlocal construction
[25:32] data.
[25:35] and w also do and
[25:36] increasingly are rolling ot
[25:38] service that is are direct
[25:39] technical assistance to home
[25:40] owners which we're excited
[25:42] about, so starting next
[25:43] month,
[25:44] residents o member
[25:45] jurisdictions, including
[25:46] residents of city are going
[25:48] the have ak says to a free
[25:49] feasibility consult s
[25:49] frs
[25:51] where they can talk with an
[25:53] adu expert for an hour, get a
[25:55] sense of what is possible on
[25:56] their property talk through
[25:59] their goals and get a free
[26:01] customized report on
[26:01] recommendations.
[26:03] We have a homeowner help line
[26:06] which is like a hotline when
[26:07] they're in the process of
[26:11] building an adu if they have
[26:13] an issue, we have a range of
[26:16] educational content and
[26:16] resources.
[26:17] We've launched a webinar
[26:19] series wth a few successful
[26:21] webinars that a couple of
[26:22] hundred people have attended
[26:23] already.
[26:24] Next week we're hosting
[26:26] another webinar about adu
[26:28] financing, so really want to
[26:29] delve into different topics
[26:30] we
[26:32] know are of interest to home
[26:33] owners.
[26:34] And finally this is just a
[26:37] list of the center's member
[26:38] jurisdictions, we're thankful
[26:41] for everyone who
[26:41] participates,
[26:43] san mateo is unique in the
[26:44] collaboration that is across
[26:45] jurisdiction asks the
[26:47] existence of the center is
[26:47] one
[26:49] example of that
[26:49] collaboration,
[26:51] so thankful to south city as
[26:53] well as all the other member
[26:54] jurisdictions for supporting
[26:56] the role of the center and
[26:59] with that, I will open it up
[27:00] to questions if there are any.
[27:04] >> thank you very much.
[27:06] Any questions or comments?
[27:09] >> I think it's perfect that
[27:11] you are presenting since we
[27:12] just gave a certificate to
[27:14] fair housing as well.
[27:17] And adu is a major part of
[27:18] affordable housing.
[27:25] It's been a while that I did
[27:26] an adu presentation, there's
[27:27] one of your slides that
[27:27] talked
[27:28] about the primary owner
[27:29] couldn't reside in the adu.
[27:31] >> yes.
[27:32] >> so, yeah, I want to
[27:33] clarify
[27:35] to make sure I got it right.
[27:39] So, if a homeowner builds an
[27:41] adu, that junior adu or full
[27:46] adu cannot be their primary
[27:48] residencey for that
[27:48] particular
[27:49] homeowner?
[27:49] >> no, it can be, if you're
[27:50] referencing no owner
[27:50] occupancy.
[27:51] Thafrjts's where I was
[27:52] confused on the rule.
[27:54] >> no, yeah, sorry, that's --
[27:57] it's kind of phrased
[27:59] awkwardly, what that means is
[28:01] that a jurisdiction can't
[28:03] prevent owner occupancy, so
[28:04] --
[28:05] or can't enforce owner
[28:06] occupancy, you don't have to
[28:08] be an owner occupant to build
[28:11] an adu, that's what it means.
[28:13] >> for a a lot o folks who
[28:15] are aging out in terms of
[28:16] home
[28:18] ownership or they want to
[28:19] reduce their size, a junior
[28:22] adu or an adu is a perfect
[28:24] play for folks to transition
[28:25] to and potentially rent out
[28:26] their home.
[28:28] >> absolutely, and there's a
[28:28] -
[28:31] new state law that's
[28:32] referenced here, canonization
[28:36] that is an optional law that
[28:38] allows jurisdiction tos enact
[28:40] an ordinance to sell the adu
[28:41] separately.
[28:43] >> that's a new law now?
[28:48] >> yes, san jose enacted,
[28:50] it's the first jurisdiction
[28:51] statewide that enacted it and
[28:52] san francisco is apparently
[28:53] in
[28:53] discussions.
[28:54] It's an interesting
[28:56] opportunity to caoe kate
[28:56] f
[28:58] yait a stock of starter homes
[29:00] from adu's.
[29:02] >> so, they have to enact
[29:02] that
[29:03] law for that to happen?
[29:06] >> t yes, it's an opt-in law.
[29:08] I'm looking at sky now.
[29:09] You're going to jump in
[29:13] >>?
[29:15] Nell selander, your questions
[29:18] are preserving one rving --
[29:19] preempting one of the
[29:21] council's extra strategic
[29:23] goals is more diversity in
[29:25] housing stock and more
[29:26] particularly home ownership,
[29:28] this is one of the task items
[29:29] you might see in a future
[29:30] report on those strategic
[29:33] goals is do we want to
[29:35] consider this locally as a
[29:36] pretty easy pathway into home
[29:37] ownership.
[29:40] >> great, thank you, nell.
[29:42] >> it's exciting and san jose
[29:44] just enacted this in the last
[29:46] one and a half year sos it's
[29:48] excite tog se -- a lot of
[29:49] jurisdictions twaont see what
[29:52] happen ins san jose, but in
[29:53] seattle, in portland where
[29:57] this exists, I mean, it's a
[29:59] massive part of new home
[29:59] starters.
[30:01] >> great, thank you for the
[30:01] information.
[30:04] Great, any other questions,
[30:05] comments?
[30:06] Community, this is a great
[30:07] resource, please take
[30:08] advantage.
[30:10] We are a member city, so
[30:11] please utilize the resources.
[30:12] Thank you again fr the
[30:13] presentation for coming
[30:13] tonight.
[30:15] >> thank you very much.
[30:17] >> next agenda item, please.
[30:17] Er
[30:20] >> moving on to council
[30:20] comments/requests.
[30:22] >> great.
[30:22] Would who
[30:23] would like to
[30:23] -
[30:25] start
[30:28] sharing?
[30:30] >> you're look at me so I
[30:31] will
[30:31] go first.
[30:32] Thank you, MR. Mayor.
[30:38] A lot of great events that I
[30:40] attended, the holly event, it
[30:42] was such a great event to
[30:43] celebrate our diversity.
[30:46] It was a avery colorful
[30:47] event, there's great pictures
[30:49] of myself and councilmember
[30:51] nicolas with bright paint on
[30:52] our face, so I look forward
[30:53] to
[30:55] as that event grows every
[30:57] year, so I'm looking forward
[30:57] to it.
[30:59] And I think councilmember
[31:00] nicolas and I are hoping by
[31:03] next year we're throwing
[31:03] paint
[31:04] -- yeah, so staff might be
[31:09] freaking out as I say that.
[31:10] I went to a wonderful event
[31:14] with the mayor and
[31:18] councilmember coleman, we
[31:21] attended the naac99th gala
[31:22] celebration where there were
[31:24] leaders across the region
[31:25] that
[31:27] celebrate the san mateo
[31:27] county
[31:29] chapter and our very own
[31:32] superintendent of schools,
[31:33] shantera moore was
[31:34] recognized,
[31:35] it was great to see her and
[31:36] all of the accomplishments
[31:37] she
[31:38] was able to put together.
[31:40] I had a great meeting with
[31:41] the
[31:41] westborough water district.
[31:43] I know staff was there, I'm
[31:45] going plug them for our
[31:46] westborough residents, make
[31:48] sure you pay your water bill
[31:48] on time.
[31:50] They have a lot of great
[31:51] resources and I look forward
[31:52] to continuing the part naer
[31:55] ship with the water district
[31:56] and if heresies any
[31:58] information they want to
[31:59] provide in terms of our
[32:01] constituents, I know that the
[32:02] mayor would be willing to
[32:05] provide that information on
[32:05] to
[32:07] his newsletter.
[32:09] And then last week I had a
[32:11] town hall with about 50
[32:14] residents and we had a lot of
[32:16] great questions from the
[32:18] audience specifically about
[32:20] traffic, about public safety
[32:23] and we had the police chief,
[32:25] the fire chief, public works
[32:26] and we had a great
[32:27] presentation about what's
[32:29] coming in terms of our new
[32:32] child care center up in
[32:33] westborough and a lot of
[32:34] great
[32:36] feedback from residents, I
[32:38] know we're following up for w
[32:39] a lot of residents in term
[32:40] ofs
[32:40] their questions, I've been
[32:43] doing it for the lst 7 years
[32:44] now, to see all those
[32:46] residents come out and ask
[32:47] questions and engaging
[32:48] witching staff because I know
[32:49] this is how w can continue
[32:49] to
[32:51] engage with our residents and
[32:54] a lot of things we're able to
[32:58] accomplish in terms of stop
[33:00] signs and curbs came from
[33:01] these town halls, people were
[33:02] interested how do I get a
[33:02] stop
[33:03] sign in my neighborhood and
[33:06] there's a process for that.
[33:07] With that, MR. Mayor, that's
[33:08] all I have, thank you.
[33:10] >> thank you, councilmember.
[33:13] Anyone else?
[33:15] Go ahead, MR. Vice mayor.
[33:17] >> thank you, mayor flores,
[33:19] the nice thing about being
[33:24] vice mayor to a mayor who is
[33:26] actively involved and a
[33:27] demanding career is he can't
[33:28] attend everything so
[33:28] sometimes
[33:30] he sends the vice mayor, so
[33:32] about a week ago on the 19th,
[33:37] I was out at biomed, the
[33:39] campus's gateway on oyster
[33:41] point boulevard for a ribbon
[33:44] cutting for a new food
[33:44] vendor,
[33:45] proper food, and proper food
[33:48] is moving fast f you go the
[33:52] san francisco, they're on
[33:53] every mayor employment
[33:53] center,
[33:54] so they have quite a
[33:55] following
[33:58] already, so we did a ribbon
[34:00] cutting and then a tour of
[34:02] biomed who still remains vry
[34:04] bullish on what has happened
[34:05] and will continue to hppen
[34:05] in
[34:06] south san francisco.
[34:09] The next day I found myself
[34:12] and again the mayor was at
[34:13] the
[34:14] skyline college PRESIDENT's
[34:15] breakfast and that's 7:30 the
[34:17] morning, as many of you know,
[34:20] I'm a little older than the
[34:22] average colleague up here and
[34:27] I don't do 7:30 willingly
[34:27] very
[34:28] often, he convinced he I
[34:31] needed to be tere, it was my
[34:34] first time building 12 at
[34:36] skyline college, it looks out
[34:38] into the pacific ocean and
[34:40] it's inspirational, it's an
[34:41] amazing venue for an event,
[34:45] they had well over 240 people
[34:48] there and they had a dj, mc,
[34:52] and the music was gj quality,
[34:54] the early hour and the dj
[34:56] music, I found a table way in
[34:57] the corner and it worked okay
[34:59] for me.
[35:02] The previous saturday on
[35:02] MARCH
[35:03] 15, I spent a lot hof time
[35:09] with the mayor lately, he put
[35:10] together cafecito, this was a
[35:16] second one, this was on the
[35:22] star bucks on mclellan drive,
[35:23] I met new people in the
[35:25] district and to see them get
[35:27] involved and care about their
[35:28] community and one of them is
[35:30] in the audience tonight,
[35:32] hello, anne trres, thank you
[35:33] for joining us.
[35:34] That's always great to see.
[35:35] She's been a a resident of
[35:37] south san francisco since the
[35:39] 70's and to see hr
[35:40] willingness to get involved
[35:43] and play a role is truly
[35:44] remarkable, so it was all
[35:45] worthwhile.
[35:46] >> great.
[35:49] >> and then we found
[35:50] ourselves
[35:53] out of south san francisco at
[35:56] the japan town center for a
[35:56] special exhibit for our
[35:57] sister
[35:58] city in japan is kish shi
[35:59] watt
[36:00] ta, the cultural district up
[36:01] there was doing a rbbon
[36:03] cutting for a special x
[36:03] I
[36:04] exhibit for the three sister
[36:06] city that is are here in san
[36:06] -
[36:07] mateo county.
[36:08] We were joined by the former
[36:11] MAY yr of daly city, they
[36:11] just
[36:13] initiated just last year or
[36:16] this year a new sister city
[36:17] that we'll be visiting
[36:17] shortly.
[36:19] This is a a great segway,
[36:19] I've
[36:20] mentioned we are looking for
[36:22] people that might want to
[36:24] travel to japan with the
[36:25] sister city's committee, we
[36:26] are not quite maxed out of
[36:27] the
[36:28] trip, there still might be a
[36:29] a
[36:31] couple of openings but I
[36:32] understand that COUNCILWOMAN
[36:33] Nicolas and her husband might
[36:35] be joining us so there's even
[36:36] less space.
[36:40] Anyway, on SEPTEMBER 12th, we
[36:41] fly to japan and we don't
[36:43] return until the 27th but
[36:44] we're going there to be part
[36:47] of the sister city
[36:48] international committee which
[36:51] is being hosted in diernl not
[36:53] going to get the name right,
[36:55] in the small city daly city
[36:57] is
[36:58] twined with, we'll spend some
[37:02] time in osaka, there's an
[37:03] international expo that goes
[37:05] for a number of months, we'll
[37:07] be in osaka for a little bit
[37:09] and find our way to tokyo
[37:11] where we'll all be
[37:11] overwhelmed
[37:12] by the energy there and fly
[37:14] home, so there are still
[37:15] opportunities if you're
[37:15] interested.
[37:19] We can send you the itinerary
[37:21] and the particulars.
[37:24] And then I guess -- oh, and
[37:27] I'm looking forward -- very
[37:29] much looking forward to
[37:29] monday
[37:32] MARCH 31, I have rceive add
[37:33] guarantee from city hall from
[37:34] the city manager's office
[37:35] that
[37:39] on that day, we will begin
[37:39] removing the derelict vehicle
[37:43] that is are in the oyster
[37:49] cove, vao that -- vehicles
[37:50] that have completely sunk.
[37:52] Do you know what time we're
[37:52] starting?
[37:53] >> I don't know, we will find
[37:53] out.
[37:55] >> we're going to start with
[37:56] ten of the worst vehicles,
[37:58] pulling them out of the water
[37:59] and destroying them on-site
[38:01] and I'm going to cheer every
[38:01] one of those.
[38:02] Er
[38:02] >> just one bit of
[38:03] information that I haven't
[38:04] shared with council yet, I
[38:06] believe three of the vehicles
[38:08] that we -- or the boats that
[38:11] we were going to hve
[38:12] removed,
[38:14] once they were posted, they
[38:16] left of their own accord,
[38:16] each
[38:18] removal is very costly, so
[38:21] that was good news to us.
[38:26] >> monday MARCH 31 out near
[38:26] the ac mare yo
[38:27] t hotel, we're
[38:28] going to get started on that
[38:30] day and there will be more to
[38:31] come, thank you, MR. Mayor.
[38:40] >> tank you, well said.
[38:47] >> so, I was also able to
[38:50] attend the naacp gala and I
[38:52] want to also congratulate the
[38:54] honorees, also last week I
[38:56] attended the orange park
[38:58] memorial pool beam topping
[39:01] where we signed the last I
[39:02] guess team that will b used
[39:04] for the structure of the pool
[39:05] and they are building that
[39:07] pool quickly and I can't be
[39:19] more excited and I guess
[39:21] weather permissible, I hope
[39:21] it
[39:22] will be done soon.
[39:24] I want to thank everyone for
[39:26] making that possible.
[39:27] That is all I have for
[39:28] tonight.
[39:28] >> COUNCILWOMAN?
[39:34] >> and for that kish wad da
[39:36] trip, we are paying our own
[39:37] way websinger are making sure.
[39:40] So, as a testament for us
[39:41] being an inclusive community,
[39:44] I did enjoy the holy
[39:46] celebration and shout-out to
[39:55] ver con ka ortiz, devon
[39:57] stenhouse for the celebration.
[40:00] We don't know that we're
[40:01] going
[40:03] to be having a bigger
[40:05] celebration next year, and
[40:10] then also I attended on MARCH
[40:13] 20 the third sister
[40:14] leadership
[40:15] conference, all of those who
[40:17] don't know about the sister
[40:18] and sister leadership
[40:19] conference, it's something
[40:22] that's been going on in santa
[40:23] clara county for the last 30
[40:25] years, I brought it to san
[40:26] mateo county three years ago,
[40:28] the first two years were held
[40:30] here in the south san
[40:34] francisco and that's for
[40:34] asian
[40:36] american native hawaiian,
[40:38] pacific islander girls who
[40:38] are
[40:40] from sixth grade to high
[40:44] school and there's a lot of
[40:45] women empowerment sessions
[40:47] that we go through making
[40:48] sure
[40:49] that they're comfortable and
[40:51] this year's theme is
[40:52] embracing
[40:54] the journey, so they heard
[40:55] about people who are
[40:57] successful now and how they
[40:58] had gone through difficulties
[41:01] in life and we are -- we keep
[41:03] on telling them they're more
[41:05] than enough, so we had the
[41:05] big
[41:06] group from -- and I'm so
[41:07] happy
[41:09] to have a big group from
[41:13] westborough middle school in
[41:15] alta loma, el camino and
[41:16] south
[41:17] city high school, so it was a
[41:19] a wonderful event for all the
[41:20] young ladies, and I also
[41:21] would
[41:22] like to request that we
[41:24] adjourn the meeting in memory
[41:27] of one of the persons I met
[41:29] when we were just beginning
[41:31] our life here in south san
[41:35] francisco, he was the founder
[41:38] of [Inaudible] Dance company,
[41:39] a filipino dance cmpany
[41:40] where
[41:43] my children started dancing,
[41:44] filipino folk dancing and
[41:46] having the love for art and
[41:46] is
[41:52] music, his name is bonafo sta
[41:56] balera junior and MS.
[41:57] Maurice
[41:58] copia and MAY their memories
[41:59] serve as a blessing.
[42:00] >> I appreciate that, the
[42:01] good
[42:02] thing about being mayor is
[42:03] all
[42:05] of you share the places we've
[42:06] already been so I say check,
[42:09] check, check, thank you to
[42:09] the
[42:09] va
[42:10] is mayor for subbing in.
[42:12] A lot of folks don't realize
[42:14] that being mayor and being
[42:16] councilmember, it naoets a
[42:19] full
[42:19] time job, many of us have a
[42:20] full time job like many of
[42:20] you
[42:21] working 8-5 five day as week
[42:22] so I appreciate that very
[42:22] much
[42:23] to be able to cover, I'm
[42:24] grateful to the resident and
[42:26] is the community members that
[42:28] stopped by for our cafecito
[42:30] with the myor x the vice
[42:33] mayor, it's not just district
[42:34] 1 residents, there were just
[42:36] like the last cafecito we
[42:37] had,
[42:38] residents from all over south
[42:40] san francisco and this is
[42:42] really what it is, it's
[42:43] bringing different
[42:44] neighborhoods together, it's
[42:45] a
[42:46] a little national night out
[42:46] on
[42:47] a saturday morning with
[42:48] coffee
[42:50] so it's great to see some
[42:52] parents stop by on their way
[42:53] to baseball practice or other
[42:55] endeavors on a saturday
[42:56] morning, but building
[42:56] xhaoent,
[42:58] it's really what it's about.
[42:59] There's still many
[42:59] individuals
[43:00] that say, you live right
[43:02] there, I liver right there,
[43:04] you work right there, I'm a
[43:05] history buff as the vice
[43:06] mayor
[43:09] knows and hearing about the
[43:11] old macy's warehouses before
[43:13] the costco years here in
[43:13] south
[43:14] city is a great time so I
[43:15] appreciate that and we do it
[43:16] in different ways.
[43:18] We engage with our community
[43:19] in different ways.
[43:22] I was also happy to join
[43:23] councilmember nagales at his
[43:24] community meeting as well
[43:25] websinger ear out there and
[43:26] connecting and sharing the
[43:27] information so I appreciate
[43:30] all of you, everyone is
[43:30] welcome, stay tuned because
[43:31] we
[43:32] have many more coming during
[43:34] the course of this year.
[43:36] Indeed I attended some of the
[43:37] ve lents that were already
[43:37] shared.
[43:39] I do want to point a little
[43:40] bit of some of the work I'm
[43:43] doing here with the support
[43:46] of our city staff and city
[43:47] manager.
[43:49] We hosted and met our new
[43:52] assembly member and the state
[43:52] legislature, catherine
[43:54] stephanie who represents
[43:55] assembly dstrict 19, we
[43:57] hosted her last week at south
[44:00] city at our city hall and
[44:01] discussed many important
[44:03] policy issues, many assembly
[44:04] bills but also things that
[44:04] are
[44:06] really important to south san
[44:08] francisco and this is a great
[44:10] opportunity to really say
[44:10] this
[44:12] has been something that has
[44:14] ben filets our community and
[44:16] we need additional support on
[44:18] this, she was extremely open,
[44:20] extremely welcoming and
[44:21] extremely willing to work,
[44:21] her
[44:22] and her team, I want to
[44:24] acknowledge and recognize we
[44:25] have a strong -- another
[44:28] representative in the state
[44:28] legislature.
[44:29] We're very lucky here in
[44:30] south
[44:31] san francisco, we have two
[44:33] state senators covering, we
[44:35] have two assembly members, we
[44:37] have two also members of the
[44:38] san mateo county board of
[44:40] supervisors, we have two san
[44:42] mateo county board of
[44:44] education trustees, so we're
[44:45] -- we're well represented and
[44:50] again it's about advocacy,
[44:52] it's about ensuring that our
[44:54] policy priorities that we
[44:54] will
[44:56] discuss later are well spoken
[44:59] for as well.
[45:00] I did want to talk about
[45:02] upcoming and you'll start
[45:05] seeing some of the promotions
[45:07] websinger are on APRIL 5 and
[45:08] I
[45:09] believe the 19th, we're
[45:10] moving
[45:12] forward with south san
[45:13] francisco neighborhood
[45:13] cleanup.
[45:15] In particular, kick it off in
[45:18] some of the areas most
[45:19] affected, downtown, old town
[45:21] where we see a lot of illegal
[45:21] dumping.
[45:27] We kicked tis off last year,
[45:28] it was extremely successful.
[45:28] Thank tos the support of our
[45:29] staff, we couldn't do it,
[45:30] also
[45:30] our volunteer, people that
[45:32] came out early on saturday
[45:32] and
[45:34] we held it it on sunday, this
[45:36] year is both on saturdays,
[45:40] this is part of an initiative
[45:42] I'm so thrilled about, clean
[45:44] ssf, part of that we envision
[45:46] providing you with some
[45:48] shovels, sme picks and some
[45:50] garbage bag and is lending
[45:50] you
[45:53] some gloves and come out and
[45:55] build community, cleaning up
[45:56] our neighborhoods, you'll see
[45:57] that on social media, you'll
[45:59] see that in my newsletter
[46:01] coming up so I want to
[46:02] welcome
[46:04] all residents, even visitors
[46:06] of south san francisco to
[46:08] partake and join me and staff
[46:13] and let's clean up south san
[46:13] francisco.
[46:15] With that in mind, I'm excite
[46:16] ted share with our city
[46:18] manager that south san
[46:20] francisco should be pursuing
[46:21] the [Inaudible] Designation,
[46:23] that is the clean california
[46:23] designation.
[46:24] I would like the share that,
[46:27] this is a special initiative
[46:30] designation put on by the
[46:31] governor's office and managed
[46:33] by cal trans and it really
[46:35] honors communities that are
[46:37] dedicated to doing something
[46:38] about it, not just saying,
[46:40] well, we got to blame so and
[46:42] so or that agency has to come
[46:44] up and step up for us, so it
[46:47] really brings a sense of
[46:48] community, it's improving the
[46:50] health, it's improving our e
[46:51] economy and it's really aso
[46:58] as part of this designation,
[46:58] it's allowing south city to
[47:00] apply for money torx apply
[47:00] for
[47:01] grants that potentially could
[47:04] support us in continuing to
[47:07] clean up south city and all
[47:08] locations in every area that
[47:13] you can imagine, so, the
[47:13] first
[47:15] hundred designated
[47:16] communities
[47:16] will continue to receive this
[47:17] resource.
[47:18] There are already cities,
[47:19] bakersfield, fresno, irvine,
[47:21] la, can dewing that are part
[47:22] of this initiative and I want
[47:23] to se our city be
[47:23] represented
[47:24] as well.
[47:26] Now just turning a little
[47:28] different lens, I did want to
[47:30] ask our city manager if we
[47:31] could look into two items
[47:32] that
[47:34] I've been monitoring as I'm
[47:36] driving around connecting
[47:36] with
[47:37] neighborhoods and different
[47:39] shopping centers, there are
[47:40] certain donation insets in
[47:41] various parking lotuses and
[47:43] shopping centers, one in
[47:46] particular is the parking lot
[47:48] right behind five guys
[47:48] burgers
[47:49] in westborough square, as I
[47:55] was there this weekend, it
[47:58] wasn't a nice sited to look
[48:00] at, I would like to see if we
[48:02] could work with the donation
[48:04] vendor, how often they clean
[48:06] up and that sort of thing.
[48:07] The oher thing I started
[48:10] noticing is on weekends, many
[48:13] amazon trucks are parking for
[48:15] more than whatever it is,
[48:18] saturdays and sundays, taking
[48:19] up perhaps a parking lot that
[48:21] could be for residents so I
[48:23] want to look at are there
[48:26] amazon parking lots that are
[48:27] designated, in particular in
[48:28] district 5, I'm seeing in
[48:29] many
[48:31] of our surface city parking
[48:34] lotuses, there's a lot of
[48:35] amazon distribution delivery
[48:36] trucks on there, so I would
[48:37] like to follow up and discuss
[48:39] a little bit on that.
[48:41] >> we're happy to do that.
[48:43] >> thank you.
[48:48] Lastly I want to adjourn in
[48:52] the memory of jose flores.
[48:54] He passed away suddenly this
[48:54] mo
[48:57] bt, I met jose at my
[48:59] swearing in this past
[49:03] DECEMBER, he's the father of
[49:04] douglas cotoad1 resident and
[49:05] a
[49:07] graduate of our citizens
[49:09] academy, I would like to
[49:09] honor
[49:11] and my his manly continue to
[49:12] be a blessing for all tloez
[49:16] and equally with the names
[49:17] that COUNCILWOMAN Flor
[49:17] nicolas
[49:19] shared, our condolences to
[49:20] those families and loved ones.
[49:23] Thank you, that's all I had.
[49:24] Next agenda item, please.
[49:25] >> thank you, mayor, we will
[49:26] now move on to public comment
[49:29] and is we will begin with
[49:38] cynthia markopoulos.
[49:40] >> good evening, at the
[49:42] JANUARY 9, 1985 city council
[49:46] meeting, the clerk's minutes
[49:47] documented mayor hafy's
[49:49] comments about the surplus
[49:51] magnolia building stating "to
[49:52] provide housing was important
[49:55] but should not overshadow the
[49:56] senior center and I should
[49:57] be
[49:58] revitalized for seniors and
[50:00] use of the community".
[50:02] The most recent e-mail to
[50:05] attendees of magnolia teglia
[50:08] center is they will be
[50:13] relocated to the bola center
[50:14] for months, and mingling
[50:14] adult
[50:16] widths daycare center where
[50:18] mayor edie said it was a
[50:21] concern having adults with
[50:23] young kids.
[50:25] I agree with you, mayor
[50:25] eddie,
[50:26] that history is important
[50:28] learning about macy's
[50:30] warehouse, etc., the
[50:32] historical society and
[50:33] library
[50:34] have limited if no
[50:35] information
[50:38] on the msb even though they
[50:40] had orange library grand
[50:43] avenue's information as well.
[50:44] As we witnessed over decades
[50:46] in history, it is to wipe out
[50:48] any mem ray or eliminate any
[50:50] significance of something but
[50:52] we have researched the past
[50:54] thorough clerk's minutes over
[50:57] the past six decades
[50:58] documenting the importance of
[51:00] the msb and we will not let
[51:03] you forget it especially when
[51:04] 30% of our population is 55
[51:07] years and older and that the
[51:09] msb had 188 thousand visitors
[51:11] annually and was the most
[51:11] used
[51:14] facility as noted in jim
[51:15] steel's staff report.
[51:18] I copied each of you in an
[51:21] e-mail to marie patea, not
[51:21] one
[51:21] replay
[51:23] f mri for you, I put
[51:25] in a public records request
[51:27] dated MARCH 14 and I received
[51:29] an extension on MARCH 24
[51:30] specifically addressing the
[51:32] special city council meeting
[51:33] of APRIL 29.
[51:35] Let hope in fairness it is
[51:37] complied with in ample time
[51:39] before the 29th meeting
[51:40] concerning the msb.
[51:43] Thank you.
[51:45] >> thank you, MADAM City
[51:46] manager, can you confirm the
[51:47] date, time and location for
[51:49] the upcoming meeting, please.
[51:52] >> for the msb study session?
[51:53] >> yes.
[51:55] >> it's wednesday APRIL 29
[51:57] here at the library parks and
[51:58] recreation council chambers
[51:59] at
[51:59] 6:30.
[52:02] >> thank you.
[52:04] >> thank you, mayor, if I MAY
[52:05] add for that specific
[52:06] meeting,
[52:09] we intend to have the agenda
[52:11] published by friday APRIL 25.
[52:12] >> thank you.
[52:29] Moving on the sam ch icuti.
[52:33] >> mayor flores, board
[52:33] member,
[52:34] south san francisco city
[52:36] council, my name is sam, I'm
[52:38] glad that the city council
[52:38] has
[52:40] finally decided to have a
[52:41] special meeting for the msb
[52:43] next month on the 29th.
[52:44] After all, it's only been two
[52:48] and a half years.
[52:50] I suppose that the city
[52:51] council imagined that the
[52:52] coalition of citizens against
[52:53] tearing down the msb would
[52:57] have dissipated by now.
[52:59] That in and of itself is
[53:00] short
[53:01] sighted by this council.
[53:04] As you have heard in past
[53:06] meetings, more than 30% of
[53:09] south san francisco residents
[53:10] are retired, will be retired
[53:13] or are close to retirement in
[53:15] a very short period of time.
[53:20] I recently saw a youtube
[53:20] video
[53:22] of the city council meeting
[53:23] of
[53:23] last AUGUST.
[53:24] In this video, the city
[53:27] planner of south san
[53:27] francisco
[53:29] tony said almost all
[53:29] available
[53:31] parcels of land owned by
[53:31] south
[53:33] san francisco have been or
[53:34] are
[53:35] being developed.
[53:37] What exactly is the city
[53:38] council's outlook for south
[53:39] san francisco?
[53:40] Do they see south san
[53:45] francisco as a mini me to san
[53:46] francisco?
[53:47] Additional apartments are not
[53:48] the answer to those that have
[53:50] been residents of south san
[53:51] francisco for decades.
[53:53] Community center where w can
[53:56] can gather is a necessity for
[53:58] an aging populous.
[53:59] The magnolia center is
[54:01] certainly not the answer, it
[54:03] can barely accommodate the
[54:04] people going there now.
[54:07] What will happen when more
[54:08] people become seniors?
[54:10] Is this council's answer to
[54:11] go
[54:13] to the senior center in san
[54:14] bruno?
[54:16] Save the msb as a community
[54:18] center for us, thank you.
[54:21] >> thank you.
[54:37] Next up.
[54:39] >> a correction to the
[54:39] meeting
[54:43] is tuesday APRIL 29th, thank
[54:43] you.
[54:45] >> my apologies.
[54:47] >> now we're moving on to
[54:50] tony
[54:58] allen.
[55:01] >> good evening, my name is
[55:08] tony alan, I live near loss
[55:10] aritos, I wanted to just say
[55:13] thank you for your newsletter
[55:16] that comes out, mayor eddie,
[55:19] and I host english language
[55:21] students and I have students
[55:23] often that are spanish
[55:24] speaking or speak another
[55:26] language and I just really
[55:27] appreciate that your
[55:29] newsletter gave a whole lot
[55:30] of
[55:31] good information about how
[55:33] inclusive and diverse and how
[55:37] south san francisco really
[55:39] values our diversity and our
[55:41] inclusiveness and that you
[55:43] gave great resources and so
[55:44] please, I hope we continue to
[55:46] do that.
[55:47] I obviously came at the right
[55:52] time, I'm also an adu person
[55:54] and so I'm proud of south san
[55:55] francisco and I just wanted
[55:56] to
[55:56] mention that.
[55:57] Thank you.
[56:01] >> thank you.
[56:18] >> fianola?
[56:21] >> good evening,
[56:22] councilmembers, and everyone
[56:28] in the auditorium and
[56:29] watching.
[56:31] In 1977, the city exercised
[56:31] an
[56:34] option to purchase the value
[56:39] giant, also known as the
[56:42] municipal services building.
[56:45] 1977.
[56:47] You exercised the option and
[56:54] you purchased the building.
[56:59] That was quite a while ago.
[57:04] Now, in part, you needed
[57:05] extra
[57:06] space, documents, proof, one
[57:08] of the things you needed
[57:08] extra
[57:10] space for was a senior
[57:11] center,
[57:13] so you dedicated space at the
[57:19] msb for a senior center.
[57:20] Where MR. Rozzi is that
[57:22] documented in the
[57:23] environmental impact report
[57:28] with respect to with drawing
[57:28] a
[57:30] senior center, a dedicated
[57:32] senior center from tens of
[57:41] thousands of peopl
[57:42] in this city, where is that
[57:43] environmental impact report,
[57:43] it's supposed to
[57:45] document significant impacts,
[57:48] not documented.
[57:50] In addition, you put a
[57:54] proposition on the ballot to
[57:57] reimburse you for the payment
[58:01] of 1.39 million dollars for
[58:04] that property.
[58:08] You assessed 5 cents per
[58:11] hundred dollars, per hundred
[58:16] dollars, 5 cents, for 20
[58:16] years
[58:19] on taxable property in this
[58:20] city.
[58:23] We paid for that building
[58:24] over
[58:26] there, property owners did.
[58:30] Where's the money?
[58:33] I asked for an accounting of
[58:34] where that money is.
[58:34] How much money did you
[58:35] collect?
[58:38] You know, roughly speaking,
[58:44] let's say 44 thousand dollars
[58:46] was paid by a property over
[58:50] the 20 years, that's 350
[58:52] properties to cover that
[58:53] price, okay.
[58:56] Where is the money?
[58:57] I've requested that money --
[58:59] the accounting of that money
[59:03] from the city, mo response of
[59:04] records, I wonder why.
[59:06] The msb has been a cash cow
[59:09] for you as you know including
[59:10] the fire department which
[59:12] turned out to be political
[59:16] suicide, didn't it, MR.
[59:16] Addiego.
[59:17] Where's the money?
[59:18] Thank you.
[59:23] >> thank you.
[59:33] >> judy?
[59:34] >> my name's judy, I have
[59:35] been
[59:38] a a resident of south city
[59:39] since 1963, this is my home,
[59:39] I
[59:41] love it and I hate some of
[59:41] the
[59:42] changes I'm seeing.
[59:45] I would hate to see the msb
[59:48] building gone because we need
[59:52] it for groups.
[59:53] AUGUST 24, 2019, I was
[59:55] diagnosed with advanced
[59:55] breast
[59:56] cancer.
[59:58] What I found is that there is
[1:00:00] no breast cancer support
[1:00:02] group
[1:00:03] anywhere near, the closest
[1:00:03] one
[1:00:04] was san francisco which I
[1:00:06] don't care to g to at night.
[1:00:10] The other one was palo alto,
[1:00:11] that building would be
[1:00:11] perfect
[1:00:13] for a breast cancer support
[1:00:13] group.
[1:00:16] One in every four women get
[1:00:18] breast cancer during their
[1:00:19] lifetime and you need the
[1:00:19] support.
[1:00:21] I am currently in remission
[1:00:24] but I'm not cancer free.
[1:00:25] So, -- ask it was tough
[1:00:27] because like I said, 2019,
[1:00:27] the
[1:00:30] end of it, I was diagnosed,
[1:00:32] I'm -- I'll keep my time,
[1:00:33] eddie, don't worry.
[1:00:34] >> she hadn't started.
[1:00:35] Er
[1:00:37] >> that's okay, I'm aware,
[1:00:39] anyway, when I started, it
[1:00:39] was
[1:00:42] beginning of covid, going for
[1:00:44] cancer treatment, they're
[1:00:46] phenomenal at ucsf, during
[1:00:48] that time it was scary and
[1:00:49] not
[1:00:50] having a support system,
[1:00:52] you're in your home, you're
[1:00:56] isolating, it was very
[1:00:58] depressing and to be in your
[1:01:01] home alone fr years because
[1:01:08] you're immune -- immune know
[1:01:09] fomented was horrible ad I
[1:01:11] would like the start one in
[1:01:12] that building as soon as we
[1:01:14] decide not to demolish it,
[1:01:15] thank you.
[1:01:16] >> just for your information,
[1:01:18] so just for your iformation
[1:01:20] for breast cancer support
[1:01:22] group, contact bay area
[1:01:22] cancer
[1:01:24] connections and this is in
[1:01:24] san
[1:01:27] mateo county.
[1:01:29] >> thank you, mayor, that
[1:01:30] concludes anyone registered
[1:01:30] to
[1:01:31] speak.
[1:01:32] Do we have anyone else in the
[1:01:33] audience that did not
[1:01:34] register?
[1:01:37] Go ahead.
[1:01:39] F you don't mind coming up to
[1:01:40] the mic., please, thank you.
[1:01:41] Just so everyone at home can
[1:01:42] hear you.
[1:01:45] >> I was wondering, I heard
[1:01:48] archer aviation is going to
[1:01:49] be
[1:01:50] flying this year, is that
[1:01:50] true
[1:01:55] in south city?
[1:01:57] >> sorry, we can't respond to
[1:01:58] public comment.
[1:02:00] >> that's basically -- it was
[1:02:02] more of a question than a
[1:02:02] statement.
[1:02:03] That's it.
[1:02:05] That was basically it.
[1:02:06] >> MADAM City manager, if you
[1:02:07] could follow up with the
[1:02:08] individual.
[1:02:10] >> if I could get your name
[1:02:11] and contact number, aisle
[1:02:13] give
[1:02:14] -- I'll give you a call.
[1:02:16] >> thank you, mayor, that
[1:02:16] kondsbacker concludes our
[1:02:17] speakers and I wanted to note
[1:02:18] for the record, we received
[1:02:20] and you should all receive in
[1:02:23] your ipad an e-comment from
[1:02:23] chef ava.
[1:02:25] >> great, thank you, that has
[1:02:25] been received.
[1:02:28] >> thank you, moving on to
[1:02:29] consent calendar.
[1:02:30] Item 3 is a motion to approve
[1:02:32] the minutes of MARCH 12, 2025.
[1:02:35] Item 4 is a motion to accept
[1:02:38] measure w citizens' oversight
[1:02:39] committee report
[1:02:39] independently
[1:02:43] verifying fiscal year 2023-24
[1:02:45] measure w revenue and is
[1:02:46] expenditures.
[1:02:47] Item 5 is a motion to receive
[1:02:49] and file the city's housing
[1:02:50] successor agency annual
[1:02:50] report
[1:02:53] for fiscal year 2023-24.
[1:02:55] Item 6 is a report regarding
[1:02:55] a
[1:02:58] funding agreement with san
[1:03:00] mateo county transportation
[1:03:01] authority for the harbor
[1:03:02] master spit project.
[1:03:04] 6a is the resolution.
[1:03:06] Item 7 is a report regarding
[1:03:07] a
[1:03:11] resolution authorizing the
[1:03:13] creation of cdbg ramps and
[1:03:16] paths, approval of budget
[1:03:18] amendment number 25.046 and
[1:03:19] authorization o advertise the
[1:03:20] project for cnstruction.
[1:03:22] Item 7a is the resolution.
[1:03:24] Item 8 is a report regarding
[1:03:24] a
[1:03:25] second reading and adoption
[1:03:25] of
[1:03:27] an ordinance amending the
[1:03:29] south san francisco municipal
[1:03:32] code to add chapter 8.100
[1:03:33] local preference and is
[1:03:35] requirements to title 8 to
[1:03:36] define a preference policy
[1:03:38] requirement for housing units
[1:03:40] regulated by the city of
[1:03:40] south
[1:03:42] san francisco in order to
[1:03:43] prioritize housing applicants
[1:03:45] who live and/or work in the
[1:03:46] city.
[1:03:48] Item 8a is the ordinance.
[1:03:50] >> thank you, are there any
[1:03:52] members who wuld like to
[1:03:52] pull
[1:03:53] any agenda items?
[1:03:55] >> item 6 and 7.
[1:03:56] >> 6 and 7.
[1:03:57] Anyone else?
[1:03:59] Okay.
[1:04:01] I'm okay with doing those
[1:04:01] right now.
[1:04:04] So we'll start with item 6.
[1:04:09] >> let me promote our staff
[1:04:11] here.
[1:04:13] She's online, are you going
[1:04:14] to
[1:04:18] talk, I'm going promote her.
[1:04:22] >> who are we talking to?
[1:04:24] >> she's coming, adrianna.
[1:04:25] Here she is.
[1:04:28] >> is she here?
[1:04:28] Okay.
[1:04:32] So, this item has to do with
[1:04:35] roughly an one acre piece of
[1:04:35] property that's out a the
[1:04:36] marina with wr
[1:04:36] the harbor
[1:04:38] master is and it's habitually
[1:04:41] under water when we have king
[1:04:43] tides to an amazing degree.
[1:04:44] We've identified some money
[1:04:48] but I just need to understand
[1:04:49] we were aarded a grant and
[1:04:50] we
[1:04:51] have to match the grant with
[1:04:51] a
[1:04:53] like amount of dollars but
[1:04:55] that grant has expired, so
[1:04:56] can
[1:04:57] you explain to me the
[1:04:59] mechanism that is going to
[1:05:03] ensure that we have
[1:05:03] participation.
[1:05:04] >> yes, of course.
[1:05:07] So, we've had this fnding
[1:05:08] agreement ongoing.
[1:05:11] It's kind of a logistical
[1:05:13] funding agreement adjustment.
[1:05:16] We applied for an extension
[1:05:18] and the ta denied that and
[1:05:22] said they wanted to create a
[1:05:23] new funding agreement.
[1:05:25] All of our invoices will
[1:05:25] still
[1:05:27] be paid between the gap of
[1:05:27] the
[1:05:29] old funding agreement and the
[1:05:31] new one.
[1:05:32] Yeah, did that answer your
[1:05:33] question, councilmember?
[1:05:35] >> so, the invoices that
[1:05:36] we've
[1:05:37] incurred to date are going to
[1:05:39] be covered by the ta grant?
[1:05:40] >> correct.
[1:05:41] >> and then moving ahead once
[1:05:44] we have the design for how
[1:05:47] we're going to improve that
[1:05:52] air -- area so it's not
[1:05:53] overtaught with water, the
[1:05:55] water would eventually
[1:05:57] penetrate the landfill and be
[1:05:58] an environmental disaster, so
[1:06:00] where do we expect to find
[1:06:02] funds potentially for the
[1:06:04] actual construction?
[1:06:06] >> excellent question.
[1:06:07] Currently we have a
[1:06:08] consultant
[1:06:10] looking into feasible gants
[1:06:12] to cover this construction.
[1:06:14] We are at the beginning
[1:06:15] phases
[1:06:17] of grant research and I can
[1:06:19] certainly update you as we
[1:06:20] look into our options.
[1:06:22] >> okay.
[1:06:23] Thank you, that's all I have.
[1:06:26] >> thank you.
[1:06:30] Item number 7?
[1:06:31] >> who's going to help me
[1:06:33] with
[1:06:35] that?
[1:06:37] So, MR. Wilson.
[1:06:41] So, is tere a list of
[1:06:42] projects that we've already
[1:06:44] determined are going to be
[1:06:47] part of this ramp and path
[1:06:50] million dollar project?
[1:06:51] >> good evening, honorable
[1:06:53] members tof council, johnny
[1:06:55] wilson, your associate
[1:07:01] engineer with the engineering
[1:07:01] department.
[1:07:03] So, your question is with
[1:07:05] regard to the scope of the
[1:07:07] project, yeah.
[1:07:12] Approximately 80 curb ramps
[1:07:13] distributed roughly equally
[1:07:15] among the five districts.
[1:07:16] >> that was the next
[1:07:17] question,
[1:07:17] that's great, so that list
[1:07:18] can
[1:07:18] be shared?
[1:07:20] >> yeah.
[1:07:21] Just putting together a
[1:07:23] website for it, I've got a
[1:07:23] map
[1:07:24] that's ready.
[1:07:28] As soon as this project is
[1:07:29] created, I'll create that
[1:07:30] website and share that map,
[1:07:33] it's teed up and ready to go
[1:07:36] and we're also constructing
[1:07:36] an
[1:07:38] accessible path to cypress
[1:07:38] and
[1:07:39] pine park, that's the other
[1:07:40] component.
[1:07:42] >> for downtown?
[1:07:43] That's great, I just needed
[1:07:44] to
[1:07:45] know there was something we
[1:07:46] could see where the money
[1:07:49] might be allocated, so thank
[1:07:49] you.
[1:07:52] >> aisle be happy to share
[1:07:55] with you, tomorrow I'll be
[1:07:56] working on the website.
[1:07:58] >> thank you, having no other
[1:07:59] items being pulled, could I
[1:08:01] have a a motion to approve
[1:08:01] the
[1:08:02] consent agenda?
[1:08:02] >> so moved.
[1:08:03] >> I'll scond.
[1:08:04] >> first and second, can can
[1:08:04] I
[1:08:07] have a roll call, please.
[1:08:08] >> councilmember coleman?
[1:08:08] -
[1:08:09] >> yes.
[1:08:10] >> vice mayor addiego?
[1:08:12] >> yes.
[1:08:12] >> coupes member nicolas?
[1:08:17] >> aye.
[1:08:18] >> cuncilmember nagales?
[1:08:18] >> yes.
[1:08:19] >> and mayor flores?
[1:08:19] >> yes, motion passes.
[1:08:20] >> moving on to
[1:08:20] administrative
[1:08:22] business, item 9 is a report
[1:08:23] regarding the 2024 general
[1:08:25] plan and housing element
[1:08:40] annual progress reports.
[1:08:42] >> good evening,
[1:08:42] councilmembers, billy gross
[1:08:47] with the planning division.
[1:08:49] Myself and stephanie will be
[1:08:51] here for our yearly annual
[1:08:52] progress reports on the
[1:08:55] general plan and housing
[1:08:56] element.
[1:08:58] So I'll go through just a few
[1:08:59] slides that talk about
[1:08:59] actions
[1:09:01] that happened in 2024 for the
[1:09:03] general plan and then
[1:09:04] stephanie will go through the
[1:09:08] housing element for the 2024
[1:09:09] progress.
[1:09:10] As you'll recall, the current
[1:09:13] general pan was adopted in
[1:09:14] 2022 and continues to be
[1:09:16] consistent with all state
[1:09:17] requirements.
[1:09:18] There were no amendment ts
[1:09:20] the general plan has were
[1:09:23] adopted in 2024.
[1:09:24] This chart shows when each of
[1:09:26] the required elements was
[1:09:26] last
[1:09:27] updated, all of these
[1:09:31] occurring in e ver 2022 or
[1:09:33] 2023 when we adopted the
[1:09:38] lindenville specific plan.
[1:09:40] Attachments 1 and 2 to your
[1:09:41] staff report are the detailed
[1:09:44] general plan implementation
[1:09:44] tables showing the current
[1:09:48] status of each of the 764
[1:09:49] policy ins actions within the
[1:09:50] general plan.
[1:09:52] Items that you see that are
[1:09:54] highlighted in yellow
[1:09:54] indicate
[1:09:56] an updated entry from last
[1:09:57] year.
[1:09:58] The majority of the these are
[1:10:00] descriptions of progress in
[1:10:02] 2024 in the notes column but
[1:10:03] there are others that MAY
[1:10:06] indicate a change in status
[1:10:09] or
[1:10:10] timeframe.
[1:10:11] This chart which is also
[1:10:14] included in the staff report
[1:10:15] indicates implementation
[1:10:17] status by element.
[1:10:18] Overall, items cnsidered
[1:10:21] either complete or ongoing
[1:10:24] have increased from 51 to 55
[1:10:24] percent.
[1:10:26] Items considered under way
[1:10:28] have increased from 16 to 19
[1:10:31] percent and items with no
[1:10:33] action have decreased from
[1:10:33] 33%
[1:10:34] to 26 percent s we are
[1:10:36] continuing to make progress
[1:10:37] in
[1:10:41] all of these actions and
[1:10:41] policies.
[1:10:43] And for the general plan
[1:10:44] progress report, the last
[1:10:45] thing I wanted to highlight
[1:10:47] was the data dashboard.
[1:10:48] This is intended to assist in
[1:10:49] trag tr
[1:10:50] tracking
[1:10:51] implementation progress on
[1:10:52] performance measure that is
[1:10:54] were identified in the
[1:10:54] general
[1:10:55] plan.
[1:10:55] The dashboard has been
[1:10:56] updated
[1:10:58] with the most recent data
[1:10:58] that
[1:11:00] is currently accessible if
[1:11:01] available.
[1:11:03] We have also worked with our
[1:11:05] website consultant team to
[1:11:06] provide documentation on how
[1:11:07] the data for each performance
[1:11:09] measure is obtained and that
[1:11:10] documentation is now
[1:11:11] available
[1:11:13] on the dashboard which can be
[1:11:16] found on the general plan
[1:11:20] website shape ssf.Net under
[1:11:21] measuring progress, with that
[1:11:23] I'm going the hand it over to
[1:11:24] stephanie to talk to you
[1:11:24] about
[1:11:25] the housing elements progress
[1:11:33] and I'm happy to answer any
[1:11:34] questions you haver after
[1:11:34] that.
[1:11:35] >> thank you, billy.
[1:11:37] >> good evening, thank you,
[1:11:38] billy.
[1:11:40] Stephanie skangos with the
[1:11:43] planning division.
[1:11:44] As billy mentioned, I will be
[1:11:46] going over the housing
[1:11:47] element
[1:11:48] annual progress report.
[1:11:50] Just to offer a quick little
[1:11:52] recap, what is the husing
[1:11:53] element?
[1:11:54] The housing element is one of
[1:11:55] the 7 state mandated elements
[1:11:58] of the general plan.
[1:11:59] Although unlike the other
[1:12:01] elements of a general plan,
[1:12:04] the housing element must be
[1:12:04] updated by deadlines set by
[1:12:06] the state.
[1:12:09] The t city adopted a new
[1:12:12] housing element in JANUARY of
[1:12:12] 2023 and the department of
[1:12:13] housing and community
[1:12:15] development or hcd certified
[1:12:16] our housing element in
[1:12:18] NOVEMBER 2023.
[1:12:20] And this new housing element
[1:12:21] covers a planning cycle
[1:12:26] running from JANUARY 31, 2023
[1:12:28] through JANUARY 31, 2031, so
[1:12:30] an 8 year period.
[1:12:32] And again the housing element
[1:12:34] is essentially the blueprint
[1:12:35] for future housing
[1:12:36] development
[1:12:38] within the city ad it
[1:12:39] includes goals, policies and
[1:12:41] programs that will direct
[1:12:45] residential decision-making.
[1:12:48] The housing element -- sorry.
[1:12:49] The housing element process
[1:12:52] begins with the state setting
[1:12:53] a regions regional housing
[1:12:55] needs allocation or rhna
[1:12:56] which
[1:12:57] is the estimated number of
[1:12:59] housing units that will be
[1:13:01] needed over the 8 year
[1:13:04] planning cycle to assist with
[1:13:05] regional growth and trends.
[1:13:10] The 8 year cycle for rhna
[1:13:10] does
[1:13:13] differ slightly by about 6
[1:13:15] months t rhna cycle run from
[1:13:18] JUNE 30, 2022 through
[1:13:18] DECEMBER
[1:13:19] 15, 2030.
[1:13:21] It's important to note with
[1:13:22] rhna that these units don't
[1:13:25] need to be constructed during
[1:13:27] the time period, but the city
[1:13:29] is required to ensure that it
[1:13:31] is possible to build these
[1:13:33] units trough appropriate
[1:13:34] zoning.
[1:13:35] New units are counted towards
[1:13:38] rhna at the time of building
[1:13:39] permit issuance and this
[1:13:42] applies for all new
[1:13:44] residential unit tpes,
[1:13:44] single
[1:13:47] family dwellings, accessory
[1:13:48] dwelling units, duplexes,
[1:13:52] duplexes and our larger
[1:13:54] multifamily buildings.
[1:13:58] The current rhna cycle sixth,
[1:14:01] we were -- sorry, we were
[1:14:04] tasked with our
[1:14:05] responsibility
[1:14:10] of 3956 units over the 8 year
[1:14:12] period.
[1:14:14] The rhna allocation is
[1:14:15] further
[1:14:18] divided into income levels.
[1:14:20] There are four category, very
[1:14:22] low, low, mod wrath rat and
[1:14:23] above moderate.
[1:14:24] These income categories are
[1:14:27] based on the area median
[1:14:29] income that is set by hcd for
[1:14:33] each county.
[1:14:36] The 2024ami for san mateo
[1:14:39] county is 186 thousand 600
[1:14:40] dollars.
[1:14:44] Very low category is
[1:14:48] 30-50%ami, low is between
[1:14:52] 50-80%ami, moderate falls
[1:14:54] between 80-120%ami and above
[1:14:56] moderate is more tan 100%
[1:14:59] ami, so you can see the
[1:15:02] allotment for the total rhna
[1:15:04] numbers of 3956, the majority
[1:15:07] of which are uder the above
[1:15:14] moderate category.
[1:15:15] For 2024, the city is
[1:15:16] reporting building permit
[1:15:20] issuance for a total of 62
[1:15:20] new
[1:15:21] residential units.
[1:15:24] This includes 6 sing m family
[1:15:26] homes, 6 small multifamily
[1:15:29] units which are units located
[1:15:32] within 2-4 unit structures,
[1:15:33] and 50adu's.
[1:15:36] Again, new units that receive
[1:15:37] building permit issuance
[1:15:40] during the reported year are
[1:15:42] what is counted towards the
[1:15:44] current rhna allocation.
[1:15:47] In addition to the new units
[1:15:50] issued, a tet of 255 new
[1:15:51] residential units were
[1:15:52] finagled or received a
[1:15:55] certificate of occupancy in
[1:15:59] the 2024 reporting year.
[1:16:01] The city also approved
[1:16:02] planning entitlements for
[1:16:02] five
[1:16:03] new residential units during
[1:16:04] the reporting year.
[1:16:08] And the detailers for the
[1:16:11] building permit issuance and
[1:16:12] entitlements approved and
[1:16:15] certificate of compliance
[1:16:16] completion are found in
[1:16:18] attachment 3 and 4 of the
[1:16:25] staff report under table a-2.
[1:16:26] So, this is the second year
[1:16:27] of
[1:16:32] the rhna cycle 6 eighty year
[1:16:33] reporting cycle,
[1:16:33] cumulatively,
[1:16:34] the city is dewed building
[1:16:37] perms for a total of 4.5% of
[1:16:38] the expected housing units so
[1:16:41] that's a total of 177 units
[1:16:46] out of the 3956 units that
[1:16:50] were allocated through rhna.
[1:16:53] This is broken down into the
[1:16:55] four income categories.
[1:16:57] The city for above moderate
[1:16:59] housing category, the city
[1:17:01] issued building permits for
[1:17:01] 36
[1:17:04] units or 1.9% of the rhna
[1:17:05] allocation.
[1:17:06] Moderate housing category,
[1:17:06] the
[1:17:08] city's issued building
[1:17:08] permits
[1:17:11] for 46 units or 6.4% of the
[1:17:12] allocation.
[1:17:13] For the low housing category,
[1:17:15] the city has issued a
[1:17:16] building
[1:17:20] permit for 68 units or 13.5%
[1:17:22] of the rhna allocation, the
[1:17:24] very low housing category t
[1:17:25] city has issued a building
[1:17:28] permit for 27 units or 3.1%
[1:17:28] of
[1:17:33] the rhna allocation.
[1:17:35] Thsz for the 2023 reporting
[1:17:38] year ad then the 2024
[1:17:42] reporting year, cumulatively.
[1:17:43] In addition to reporting
[1:17:45] housing production to date
[1:17:49] during the reporting year, we
[1:17:51] also provide information on
[1:17:53] our program implementation
[1:17:54] status, as mentioned, a large
[1:17:56] component of the city's
[1:17:59] housing element are goals,
[1:18:01] policies and products that
[1:18:01] direct decision making, most
[1:18:03] of these programs are
[1:18:05] implemented and monitored on
[1:18:06] an ongoing basis, however
[1:18:07] some
[1:18:08] programs have deliverable
[1:18:09] dates throughout the housing
[1:18:14] element cycle.
[1:18:16] For the 2024 reporting year,
[1:18:18] 7
[1:18:20] programs were completed.
[1:18:20] These were all completed
[1:18:22] through the adoption of a
[1:18:24] zoning text amendment that
[1:18:24] the
[1:18:26] council approved and adopted
[1:18:28] last JUNE.
[1:18:30] The zoning text amendment
[1:18:31] included amended definitions
[1:18:34] of certain uses such as
[1:18:35] emergency shelter, addition
[1:18:36] of
[1:18:38] some new use classifications
[1:18:39] including low barrier
[1:18:41] navigation center and
[1:18:42] permanent supportive housing
[1:18:46] as well as updates to the
[1:18:47] development uses allowed
[1:18:48] within different zoning
[1:18:53] districts per state mandate.
[1:18:55] And that concludes staff's
[1:18:56] presentation.
[1:18:57] Both myself and billy are
[1:18:58] available for any questions.
[1:18:59] >> thank you, stephanie,
[1:19:00] thank
[1:19:01] you, billy.
[1:19:03] I'll take questions from my
[1:19:04] colleagues.
[1:19:06] I have
[1:19:08] >> I have a lot of questions
[1:19:09] so I should probably go first
[1:19:11] which is not a surprise to my
[1:19:12] colleagues.
[1:19:16] I'm going the help set up the
[1:19:19] questions, so I think we have
[1:19:21] to kind of paint the picture
[1:19:23] here in terms of help
[1:19:25] explaining the rhna process.
[1:19:27] So, if we do a good faith
[1:19:29] effort in trying to reach our
[1:19:32] rhna goals and we don't hit
[1:19:35] those numbers, what are the
[1:19:37] ramifications of us not doing
[1:19:38] that?
[1:19:40] >> great question.
[1:19:43] So, technically there is no
[1:19:45] penalty for not meeting the
[1:19:48] rhna numbers but there are
[1:19:51] certain provisions sb35 that
[1:19:52] MAY take effect.
[1:19:54] If a certain percentage of
[1:19:54] our
[1:19:58] rhna allocation is not met,
[1:20:00] midway through the reporting
[1:20:02] or the rhna cycle.
[1:20:04] And those would include --
[1:20:04] and
[1:20:07] I MAY call up tony rozzi for
[1:20:07] help here.
[1:20:11] But I believe they include
[1:20:15] changing the process of
[1:20:17] residential development
[1:20:17] review
[1:20:19] from discretionary to
[1:20:21] ministerial if a certain
[1:20:23] amount of affordable units
[1:20:23] are
[1:20:25] included in the overall
[1:20:26] proposed residential
[1:20:27] development.
[1:20:28] >> so, in other words, if we
[1:20:30] don't hit our numbers, a
[1:20:32] developer can come in and
[1:20:34] pretty much submit a project
[1:20:37] and we would have to approve
[1:20:38] it administrative, tony, do
[1:20:40] you want to -- I really want
[1:20:43] to be able to -- we
[1:20:43] understand
[1:20:44] these terms but I want to
[1:20:45] make
[1:20:47] sure the audience understands
[1:20:48] this.
[1:20:50] >> yeah.
[1:20:52] Tony rozzi, deputy director
[1:20:52] in
[1:20:53] ecd.
[1:20:55] I'm going to pull up this
[1:20:56] slide because ithink it's
[1:20:57] probably the best way to talk
[1:20:59] through this.
[1:21:02] And sb35 is not new, it
[1:21:03] applied to us in the last
[1:21:04] cycle.
[1:21:06] At the end of year four,
[1:21:07] midway through the rhna
[1:21:08] cycle,
[1:21:10] that 8 year period, they want
[1:21:13] to know that you're on track
[1:21:13] --
[1:21:14] >> hang on, she can't hear
[1:21:17] you.
[1:21:25] >> sb35 applies and really
[1:21:26] holds cities accountable for
[1:21:29] how they're doing as far as
[1:21:31] progress on their rhna cycle.
[1:21:34] After year 4, w report back,
[1:21:37] you know, have you met 50% of
[1:21:39] your expected above moderate
[1:21:39] units.
[1:21:41] So, in this case, we have a
[1:21:44] lot of above moderate units
[1:21:46] assigned, almost over 1800,
[1:21:47] so
[1:21:51] we would want to see at least
[1:21:54] 900 units permitted by the
[1:21:56] fifth year in our rhna cycle.
[1:21:57] Separately, they want to know
[1:21:58] how are you doing with your
[1:22:00] low and very low units, so
[1:22:02] that will be our very low and
[1:22:04] our low, that's almost 1400
[1:22:07] units so half of that would
[1:22:08] be
[1:22:09] 700 units half way through
[1:22:09] the
[1:22:11] rhna cycle.
[1:22:13] If you are on track and
[1:22:13] you've
[1:22:16] met both of those numbers,
[1:22:19] sb35 doesn't apply.
[1:22:21] It is not out of the question
[1:22:23] that we might have a stronger
[1:22:25] next cuple of years but it
[1:22:28] really depends on the market,
[1:22:30] tariffs, interest rates, all
[1:22:32] of those things affect
[1:22:32] whether
[1:22:33] a developer pulls a permit or
[1:22:35] not but that culd be a
[1:22:37] trigger for sb35, like
[1:22:38] stephanie said, allows a
[1:22:42] project to be proposed that
[1:22:44] has no discretionary review,
[1:22:46] no ceqa, they do have to use
[1:22:47] prevailing wage and they do
[1:22:49] have to provide affordable
[1:22:54] units, so it's not a free --
[1:22:56] freebie for a developer but
[1:22:57] it
[1:22:58] limits a developer's
[1:22:59] discretionary review.
[1:23:00] Does that make sense?
[1:23:02] >> yeah, that makes sense to
[1:23:03] me.
[1:23:05] So, let me dig a little
[1:23:05] deeper
[1:23:06] here.
[1:23:15] So, when you say city report
[1:23:16] building permits, you say
[1:23:17] city
[1:23:17] reported building permit and
[1:23:21] is then you say planning
[1:23:23] entitlements and I don't
[1:23:24] think
[1:23:28] the audience understands that
[1:23:28] here.
[1:23:30] For 62 residential units,
[1:23:31] those are the numbers that
[1:23:31] are
[1:23:33] counted towards our rhna
[1:23:33] numbers.
[1:23:35] But when you say planning
[1:23:37] entitlements, those numbers
[1:23:39] are different.
[1:23:41] Can yu briefly explain the
[1:23:42] difference between those two.
[1:23:46] >> yeah, I can and they can
[1:23:46] --
[1:23:49] in the life cycle o a
[1:23:50] project, entitlements are
[1:23:51] your
[1:23:52] first stage, you go through
[1:23:53] the planning commission,
[1:23:55] perhaps city council and you
[1:23:56] get entitled for the ability
[1:23:59] to now build those units and
[1:24:01] you've met your ceqa
[1:24:02] obligations, you've met our
[1:24:04] design standards and we have
[1:24:05] a
[1:24:06] very streamlined process for
[1:24:10] these projects.
[1:24:11] That's entitlement, now you
[1:24:13] take those pretty
[1:24:13] architectural drawings and
[1:24:14] you
[1:24:15] turn them into construction
[1:24:17] drawings and that could take
[1:24:21] as quick as 3-6 months, 18
[1:24:22] months, you have up to three
[1:24:24] years from your entitlement
[1:24:24] to
[1:24:26] get submitted for a building
[1:24:26] permit.
[1:24:28] Then you submit for a
[1:24:28] building
[1:24:29] permit, you go back and forth
[1:24:31] with our plan check review,
[1:24:32] with fire review, with
[1:24:34] planning review.
[1:24:37] When we issue that building
[1:24:39] permit n that whatever year
[1:24:42] that is which might be three
[1:24:44] years after they're entitled,
[1:24:46] we finally get credit in rhna.
[1:24:47] Now the state wants us to
[1:24:49] report, how did you do on
[1:24:51] entitlements, do we we no if
[1:24:53] you have stuff on the
[1:24:55] pipeline, how are you doing
[1:24:56] with issuing permits and now
[1:24:58] can you tell us if you have
[1:25:00] finagled those projects, are
[1:25:01] they now down and people
[1:25:04] living in them so that's the
[1:25:04] reporting.
[1:25:06] >> thank you for that
[1:25:06] overview.
[1:25:08] Here's what I'm looking at
[1:25:10] these numbers, and tony, I
[1:25:12] appreciate like the midway
[1:25:13] report.
[1:25:13] I don't know if yes
[1:25:14] f wez
[1:25:14] ear
[1:25:16] going the hit that based on
[1:25:17] what you're seeing right now.
[1:25:19] That is the concern I'm
[1:25:19] having.
[1:25:21] And so did you want to jump
[1:25:22] in?
[1:25:25] >> I share your concern.
[1:25:26] I will say tere are some
[1:25:28] project that is are in
[1:25:29] building permit review ready
[1:25:32] to be issued that would tick
[1:25:35] off our low and very low
[1:25:37] inclusionary and very many
[1:25:39] above moderate but it doesn't
[1:25:40] feel super promising.
[1:25:44] >> I'm looking behind me as
[1:25:45] the puc projects that would
[1:25:47] ramp up our numbers, right.
[1:25:47] >> right.
[1:25:48] Er
[1:25:51] >> so, let me dig deeper,
[1:25:51] when
[1:25:53] I was looking at the
[1:25:54] spreadsheet here, there were
[1:25:56] some akronbacker ron anymore
[1:25:58] which is lu, which means land
[1:26:02] use, and it says 3.9 in terms
[1:26:05] of the spreadsheet, that felt
[1:26:06] with crating affordable and
[1:26:07] workforce housing, I went
[1:26:09] through all the data points
[1:26:10] here.
[1:26:12] They were talking about
[1:26:14] working with the --
[1:26:15] potentially working with the
[1:26:17] school district about
[1:26:18] building
[1:26:19] affordable housing sites and
[1:26:19] I
[1:26:20] know the school district's
[1:26:21] been looking at this and I
[1:26:25] know we do have the city
[1:26:26] council's sdaol district
[1:26:28] liaison committee and I know
[1:26:30] it's o one of the priorities
[1:26:31] in turnover the school
[1:26:33] district but they do have
[1:26:36] sites in terms of fox ridge
[1:26:37] and sarah vista that
[1:26:39] potentially could be housing
[1:26:41] sites, so I'm looking at my
[1:26:43] colleagues who serve on tat
[1:26:44] subcommittee to really see
[1:26:46] what the school district's
[1:26:47] plan on that is and I know
[1:26:49] again one of the things they
[1:26:51] mentioned and they have to
[1:26:52] look at it but honestly
[1:26:53] they've been saying they
[1:26:54] support some sort of
[1:26:56] development there but they're
[1:26:58] dragging their feet.
[1:27:00] And if we're going to build
[1:27:01] affordable housing and
[1:27:02] workforce housing, I want to
[1:27:03] see a partnership with the
[1:27:04] school district so I'm
[1:27:05] looking
[1:27:06] at my colleagues over there
[1:27:06] in
[1:27:07] termser of moving that
[1:27:08] forward
[1:27:10] and I think jefferson high
[1:27:11] school district is a perfect
[1:27:13] example of how you build
[1:27:13] those
[1:27:16] unit, it's such a successful
[1:27:17] model that other school
[1:27:18] districts ares following that
[1:27:20] model, it's a nationally
[1:27:21] recognized program in terms
[1:27:22] of
[1:27:23] what they're doing so I want
[1:27:24] to lesh from them in terms of
[1:27:26] what we can do forward.
[1:27:27] Okay.
[1:27:29] There was another one here,
[1:27:30] it
[1:27:33] says land use 2.1 which is
[1:27:35] prioritized development near
[1:27:35] transit.
[1:27:37] And we during our housing
[1:27:39] element cnversation, we did
[1:27:40] talk about development aong
[1:27:42] the el camino corridor
[1:27:42] because
[1:27:44] we have seen the development
[1:27:46] on the caltrain corridor, but
[1:27:48] this is kind of the next kind
[1:27:49] of section where we have to
[1:27:50] look at in terms of
[1:27:52] development because when you
[1:27:54] build along transit, you get
[1:27:56] people who start using
[1:27:56] transit
[1:27:58] and I know other cities are
[1:28:00] looking along the el camino
[1:28:02] corridor in termer of
[1:28:03] development so as we mover
[1:28:05] forward in terms of
[1:28:06] development, these are going
[1:28:07] to be the sections we're
[1:28:07] going
[1:28:09] to be seeing and you can see
[1:28:11] it now in terms of where
[1:28:15] across from the san bruno
[1:28:15] bart
[1:28:16] station, tere's already
[1:28:19] development and the century
[1:28:21] plaza, that's going to be
[1:28:23] housing, that's along the
[1:28:23] bart
[1:28:25] corridor along the samtrans
[1:28:26] core dhao,'s something we're
[1:28:27] going to be looking at in
[1:28:28] terms of development.
[1:28:31] And there was another thing
[1:28:33] that says crt which I don't
[1:28:36] know what crt stood fr.
[1:28:38] >> creation.
[1:28:41] >> okay, it said 3.1, review
[1:28:42] of cmmercial and housing
[1:28:44] linkage fees.
[1:28:46] So, that was supposed to be
[1:28:47] helping us in terms of
[1:28:49] building development but for
[1:28:50] me, the pipeline is starting
[1:28:52] to slow down and there was a
[1:28:53] initial conversation at or
[1:28:54] housing subcommittee the see
[1:28:55] what with
[1:28:56] f we can do in
[1:28:57] terms of speeding up the
[1:28:59] process and I know waun one
[1:28:59] of
[1:29:02] the things, we did hire a
[1:29:03] strategic economic consultant
[1:29:06] to look at that in terms of
[1:29:06] housing and commercial
[1:29:07] linkage
[1:29:07] fees.
[1:29:10] I look forward to have that
[1:29:11] conversation in terms of what
[1:29:14] we want to d with that
[1:29:15] particular fee.
[1:29:19] So, with that, aisle leave
[1:29:20] that in terms of the
[1:29:20] questions.
[1:29:22] >> thank you, councilmember,
[1:29:22] any other questions?
[1:29:24] >> I do have a question.
[1:29:25] >> go ahead.
[1:29:25] Er
[1:29:26] >> so, how many housing
[1:29:26] units
[1:29:28] are in the pipeline and by
[1:29:31] that, I mean entitled but not
[1:29:32] yet permitted do, we have a
[1:29:37] number that's the total?
[1:29:43] >> so, for the 2024 reporting
[1:29:45] year, five units were
[1:29:45] approved
[1:29:48] in the planning process have
[1:29:49] received approved
[1:29:49] entitlements.
[1:29:51] We do have approved projects
[1:29:54] from the previous years
[1:29:59] including 7 south linden, 410
[1:30:01] noor, 1477 huntington, all of
[1:30:07] those have not pulled a
[1:30:08] building permit yet, a couple
[1:30:10] of them are on track to
[1:30:12] possibly get their building
[1:30:13] permits issued this next year
[1:30:15] or during this year so we
[1:30:17] would include them in the
[1:30:17] 2025
[1:30:18] reporting and that's when we
[1:30:20] would get the credit towards
[1:30:21] rhna.
[1:30:24] >> what's the number of those
[1:30:27] units?
[1:30:28] >> roughly 1500 units.
[1:30:30] >> thank you.
[1:30:33] And then I know the rate
[1:30:35] limiting factor is mostly the
[1:30:36] financing markets, so to the
[1:30:38] best of your ability, if you
[1:30:39] can characterize where we are
[1:30:41] many the market right now, do
[1:30:44] you see it improving, not
[1:30:47] improving?
[1:30:49] >> nell selander, economic
[1:30:50] and
[1:30:50] community development
[1:30:52] director, what we're hearing
[1:30:56] right now from some of the
[1:30:57] larger developmental
[1:30:58] directors
[1:30:59] who are pulling their
[1:31:00] building
[1:31:02] permit and is sites now but
[1:31:04] not yet pulled a building
[1:31:05] permit for vertical
[1:31:07] construction, it's not
[1:31:10] interest rates, it's the
[1:31:14] expected tariff wars and in
[1:31:16] particular wood from canada,
[1:31:18] so we even hve a project
[1:31:19] that's not about to pull a
[1:31:21] building permit but is doipg
[1:31:21] a
[1:31:23] lot of cost estimating and
[1:31:26] that was contemplated as two
[1:31:28] floors of concrete, so two
[1:31:30] podium floors with four to
[1:31:31] five stories of wood frame
[1:31:33] construction above it and
[1:31:33] they're now considering
[1:31:37] pricing the whole building in
[1:31:38] concrete because -- which
[1:31:41] would be unheard of, three or
[1:31:42] four or five years ago,
[1:31:46] because of the volatility in
[1:31:48] the timber markets because so
[1:31:50] much of it comes from canada
[1:31:52] and also because of fire
[1:31:54] insurance and fire risk,
[1:31:56] concrete buildings are less
[1:31:57] risky in a a fire.
[1:32:00] So, we MAY end up with
[1:32:00] totally
[1:32:01] different types of buildings
[1:32:04] getting built in this sort of
[1:32:06] economic cycle with the way
[1:32:08] tariffs are and fire risk.
[1:32:10] >> thank you, that's vry
[1:32:12] interesting information.
[1:32:13] >> thank you.
[1:32:15] Any other questions?
[1:32:18] >> there's one bright spot in
[1:32:20] this, this table a, the
[1:32:22] housing development
[1:32:23] application submitted,
[1:32:23] there's
[1:32:24] four different projects and
[1:32:26] what I noticed was that in a
[1:32:30] couple of them are mid size,
[1:32:33] one is 64 units, one is 70,
[1:32:36] and those are all to be owner
[1:32:38] occupied, is that correct?
[1:32:40] So that would be 500
[1:32:40] railroad,
[1:32:41] the gateway project?
[1:32:44] >> yes, the railroad
[1:32:46] townhomes, and there's
[1:32:47] another
[1:32:50] project, 170, 180 south
[1:32:54] spruce, approximately 64, 65
[1:32:54] row houses.
[1:32:55] >> I understand that's
[1:32:57] happening in the south bay
[1:32:59] where some developers are
[1:33:00] looking at previously
[1:33:02] approved
[1:33:03] entitlements for multifamily
[1:33:04] with greater height but it
[1:33:08] looks like there might be
[1:33:08] some
[1:33:10] financial advantages maybe to
[1:33:11] townhouses and it would be
[1:33:13] wonderful if we had something
[1:33:14] available for sale where
[1:33:17] people could come into south
[1:33:17] san francisco, iv
[1:33:20] ets, --
[1:33:21] invest, have a stake in the
[1:33:22] action and stay here for a a
[1:33:23] period of time.
[1:33:25] One of the great
[1:33:26] disappointments I had with
[1:33:27] the
[1:33:28] housing rental market, when I
[1:33:29] hear the turn over rate can
[1:33:30] be
[1:33:32] as high as 30% annually, so
[1:33:33] you have people that come and
[1:33:34] visit us for a couple of
[1:33:35] years
[1:33:36] and then they go some place
[1:33:37] else.
[1:33:38] That's not a healthy
[1:33:38] situation
[1:33:40] for a community, so if this
[1:33:41] becomes a trend, I think
[1:33:43] there's some potential really
[1:33:45] great news here where we have
[1:33:48] properties for sale.
[1:33:49] >> great.
[1:33:52] So, this is why rhna's
[1:33:53] important, so every city has
[1:33:56] to do rhna, is that right?
[1:33:57] Someone?
[1:33:59] >> yeah, every jurisdiction
[1:33:59] in
[1:34:02] the state of california is
[1:34:03] allotted a reap na
[1:34:03] number.
[1:34:05] >> and then what happens if
[1:34:05] we
[1:34:10] don't abide by the 3956 units?
[1:34:14] >> again, as tony mentioned,
[1:34:17] there is no penalty per se,
[1:34:19] part of the rhna process is
[1:34:22] making sure that a
[1:34:24] jurisdiction's zoning ad
[1:34:25] development standards can
[1:34:27] allow for the construction of
[1:34:28] that number.
[1:34:30] >> let rerephrase that,
[1:34:31] legally, what happens when
[1:34:35] we're not there, what is our
[1:34:37] state attorney general --
[1:34:38] what
[1:34:39] has he traditional has been
[1:34:42] known to have done to some
[1:34:42] cities?
[1:34:46] >> I'll defer to tony on that.
[1:34:49] >> I will say that in cases
[1:34:50] of
[1:34:51] jurisdictions that are sort
[1:34:52] of
[1:34:53] blatantly bad actor, they
[1:34:53] have
[1:34:55] gotten letters from the state
[1:34:56] attorney letting them know
[1:34:59] that they are at risk of
[1:35:01] losing funding for roads,
[1:35:02] funding for things that are
[1:35:04] not housing related that a
[1:35:04] lot
[1:35:08] of cities rely on.
[1:35:10] We have not always met our
[1:35:12] income levels in rhna but we
[1:35:14] have often met the lump
[1:35:15] number
[1:35:16] and we did in the last cycle.
[1:35:20] It's just very, very hard to
[1:35:23] get and fund the level of
[1:35:24] affordable, very low and low
[1:35:26] income unit that is are
[1:35:28] projected on most cities and
[1:35:30] that's where sb35 sort of
[1:35:31] creates a carrot for
[1:35:33] developers and frankly a
[1:35:35] carrot for cities to be a
[1:35:36] good
[1:35:37] actor and streamline.
[1:35:38] >> great.
[1:35:39] And as mayor and I know that
[1:35:42] my colleagues share this as
[1:35:44] well, this is important.
[1:35:46] This iss what we get elected
[1:35:46] o
[1:35:46] do.
[1:35:47] When I hear individuals say
[1:35:49] you all are hiding behind
[1:35:50] your
[1:35:53] rhna numbers or using that as
[1:35:54] a justification to build,
[1:35:54] this
[1:35:57] is happening all across
[1:35:58] california and in cities that
[1:36:00] perhaps don't even have space
[1:36:01] to build, right.
[1:36:02] They still have a a rhna
[1:36:04] number to meet and areap na
[1:36:05] allocation.
[1:36:09] Tony, can you describe what
[1:36:11] the builders' remedy is?
[1:36:15] >> the builders' remedy is a
[1:36:16] trigger lw that goes into
[1:36:21] effect if you do not have a
[1:36:23] compliant and certified
[1:36:24] housing element, so, you can
[1:36:25] adopt a housing element but
[1:36:26] it
[1:36:30] can be grossly failed to meet
[1:36:32] the standards that hcd is
[1:36:33] looking at.
[1:36:35] Hcd has to certify your
[1:36:36] housing element, until they
[1:36:36] do
[1:36:38] and once the housing element
[1:36:40] cycle has started and this is
[1:36:42] affected a lot of
[1:36:43] jurisdictions including us,
[1:36:44] there's a window where
[1:36:45] someone
[1:36:48] can come in on essentially
[1:36:49] any
[1:36:49] parcel anywhere.
[1:36:50] Er
[1:36:51] >> any neighborhood.
[1:36:53] >> and propose whatever they
[1:36:55] want with streamlining and a
[1:36:56] lot of clearance.
[1:36:59] It doesn't happen often but
[1:36:59] it
[1:37:00] is certainly -- there are
[1:37:03] examples in berkeley, santa
[1:37:04] monica, southern california
[1:37:05] where these projects have
[1:37:05] been
[1:37:05] pro
[1:37:06] ep proposed and once you
[1:37:08] propose it, you then have a
[1:37:10] right to that project in
[1:37:11] perpetuity.
[1:37:13] That cn be frightening for a
[1:37:13] community.
[1:37:15] >> great.
[1:37:18] This has been as a result of
[1:37:18] additional housing, right, a
[1:37:20] lot of folks say we're in a
[1:37:22] housing crisis.
[1:37:23] rhna is supposed to address
[1:37:25] this but I also wanted to
[1:37:26] point out that rhna is not
[1:37:28] just building or approving
[1:37:30] projects to build but the
[1:37:31] other implementations of the
[1:37:33] program such as you all
[1:37:35] highlighted, the displacement
[1:37:36] protections, the services,
[1:37:36] the
[1:37:38] energy efficiency, these are
[1:37:40] also meant to preserve as
[1:37:41] well
[1:37:42] as sustain and promote
[1:37:44] additional housing, so when
[1:37:44] we
[1:37:45] talk about -- I don't like
[1:37:46] how
[1:37:47] south san francisco is
[1:37:48] changing, we don't really
[1:37:49] have
[1:37:50] a choice, folks, we need to
[1:37:51] address housing.
[1:37:52] Housing I important, we
[1:37:53] could
[1:37:56] certainly make it so that
[1:37:57] there is affordablability in
[1:37:59] south san francisco but these
[1:38:01] are new implementations that
[1:38:02] are like I said not just in
[1:38:05] south san francisco but
[1:38:10] anywhere you go I the state.
[1:38:11] With that, do you have
[1:38:13] something else?
[1:38:13] >>.
[1:38:14] F MR. Mayor, iped to
[1:38:16] remind the audience, we just
[1:38:17] recently passed an ordinance
[1:38:18] that codified that if you
[1:38:19] live
[1:38:20] and work in south san
[1:38:22] francisco that you would have
[1:38:23] preferences, so I want to
[1:38:25] remind folks, and also that
[1:38:27] 3800 number in terms of
[1:38:29] residents, number of units,
[1:38:31] they did an audit on that and
[1:38:33] we apparently -- everyone
[1:38:35] according to what their audit
[1:38:36] said was understood counted,
[1:38:37] so our numbers could have
[1:38:38] been
[1:38:40] a lot higher than that than
[1:38:42] what we have and I serve on
[1:38:44] abag which is the association
[1:38:45] of bay aea governments and
[1:38:46] we
[1:38:48] are talking about the
[1:38:48] numbers,
[1:38:51] the rhna numbers, so I will
[1:38:53] have a big part in terms of
[1:38:53] what those numbers are going
[1:38:56] to be for the region and so
[1:38:58] the more we can do now t
[1:39:00] better it is for us in terms
[1:39:01] of what our rhna numbers ae
[1:39:03] going to be for the next
[1:39:03] cycle.
[1:39:07] >> great, thank you,
[1:39:09] councilmember, for that
[1:39:09] addition.
[1:39:10] This is a report only so no
[1:39:11] action taken but do we have
[1:39:11] public comments?
[1:39:13] >> we have oe public
[1:39:15] comment,
[1:39:22] fianola?
[1:39:25] >> good evening again,
[1:39:27] councilmembers.
[1:39:31] The regional housing needs
[1:39:33] assessment numbers mean
[1:39:34] nothing.
[1:39:36] You should all know that.
[1:39:38] It is surprising you don't
[1:39:43] know this.
[1:39:47] Who are you building equity
[1:39:47] for?
[1:39:50] All the tax credits from the
[1:39:56] state.
[1:39:58] For "affordable" housing
[1:39:59] units
[1:40:03] that after sometime the deed
[1:40:05] restrictions go away.
[1:40:06] They're no longer affordable.
[1:40:08] Then who owns them.
[1:40:10] Who are you building equity
[1:40:11] for?
[1:40:13] You are not building equity
[1:40:15] for regular foils.
[1:40:18] You
[1:40:19] -- folks.
[1:40:20] You're strapping everybody to
[1:40:22] be debt slaves because you
[1:40:23] are
[1:40:23] borrowing on the strength of
[1:40:27] us, the taxpayers, and we are
[1:40:29] paying those tax credits, yu
[1:40:32] do not need to build regional
[1:40:33] housing assessment numbers
[1:40:33] but
[1:40:35] yes, we need house, housing
[1:40:36] for sale that people can buy
[1:40:38] and build equity in for
[1:40:39] th
[1:40:39] els
[1:40:41] and is their fmly tos pass on
[1:40:42] into the future.
[1:40:44] Who are you building equity
[1:40:46] for?
[1:40:47] Yourselves.
[1:40:48] Because those are the people
[1:40:50] that come storming in here
[1:40:54] when it's time for elections,
[1:40:55] it's very interesting.
[1:40:57] So, you'll get the votes.
[1:40:58] But what about the people
[1:41:00] you're supposed to represent
[1:41:02] that vote in this
[1:41:02] constituency.
[1:41:04] You don't care about them.
[1:41:06] You only care about using a
[1:41:07] word that doesn't mean
[1:41:10] anything because the word
[1:41:12] affordable, everybody needs
[1:41:12] to
[1:41:14] know one unit of affordable
[1:41:18] housing costs at least -- oh,
[1:41:21] not including the recent
[1:41:21] surge
[1:41:24] in prices, 20% more to build
[1:41:27] an affordable housing unit,
[1:41:29] then.It does, a regular
[1:41:30] house.
[1:41:32] 20% more than.
[1:41:35] It is far -- it is much, much
[1:41:36] more money to build
[1:41:37] affordable
[1:41:38] housing units.
[1:41:41] The word affordable is the
[1:41:41] big
[1:41:42] cash cow that you're all
[1:41:44] relying on that people do not
[1:41:48] realize, it is unaffordable,
[1:41:49] completely unaffordable to be
[1:41:51] strapping the taxpayers with
[1:41:54] the cost of building these
[1:41:58] units when you should be
[1:42:00] building for families and
[1:42:01] people that they can build
[1:42:02] equity in to pass on to their
[1:42:03] families into the future.
[1:42:05] It is shameful, it is
[1:42:06] disgraceful that each of you
[1:42:08] sit there and ride a wave
[1:42:08] just
[1:42:10] because of a word, words have
[1:42:11] meaning.
[1:42:13] Why don't you tell the people
[1:42:16] what it means.
[1:42:18] Be honest.
[1:42:20] Where's your decency, all of
[1:42:20] you.
[1:42:23] Thank you.
[1:42:25] >> any other comments from my
[1:42:28] colleagues?
[1:42:28] Okay.
[1:42:29] Thank you.
[1:42:31] >> we do need you to take
[1:42:33] action to accept the general
[1:42:35] plan and housing element and
[1:42:38] annual progress reports and
[1:42:39] authorize transmittal to the
[1:42:40] california governor's office
[1:42:41] of land use and climate
[1:42:44] innovation and the cal torn
[1:42:44] ya
[1:42:45] department of housing and
[1:42:46] community development.
[1:42:47] >> aisle make that motion.
[1:42:48] >> I would second that.
[1:42:49] >> first and second.
[1:42:52] Can I have a roll call,
[1:42:53] please.
[1:42:53] >> councilmember nagales?
[1:42:55] >> yes.
[1:42:56] >> vice mayor addiego?
[1:42:57] >> yes.
[1:42:57] Er
[1:42:58] >> mayor flores?
[1:43:03] >> yes.
[1:43:03] >> councilmember coleman?
[1:43:05] >> yes.
[1:43:06] >> councilmember nicolas.
[1:43:08] >> item 10 is a report regard
[1:43:09] ago resolution approving
[1:43:11] program guidelines and is
[1:43:12] request for interest for the
[1:43:15] launch local vie cant retail
[1:43:17] activation pilot program.
[1:43:19] 10a is the resolution.
[1:43:22] >> welcome, MS. Donner.
[1:43:34] >> good evening.
[1:43:36] >> good evening, mayor, vice
[1:43:38] mayor, councilmembers, my
[1:43:38] name
[1:43:39] is kate tea donner,
[1:43:40] management
[1:43:42] analyst with the community
[1:43:42] and
[1:43:43] economic development
[1:43:43] department, I'm pleased to
[1:43:45] present to you the launch
[1:43:47] local vacant retail
[1:43:47] activation
[1:43:48] pilot program, a creative
[1:43:51] niche yat I ever designed to
[1:43:56] revitalize vacant store front
[1:43:56] ins south san francisco while
[1:43:57] supporting emerging local
[1:43:58] businesses.
[1:43:58] Note the powerpoint published
[1:44:00] in the agenda packet is not
[1:44:01] the most updated version.
[1:44:03] This presentation includes a
[1:44:04] few minor enhancements and
[1:44:06] printed copies of the updated
[1:44:07] slides are available in the
[1:44:11] back room.
[1:44:11] Tonight staff recommends it
[1:44:12] is
[1:44:14] city council adopt a
[1:44:15] resolution approving both the
[1:44:17] program guideline and is the
[1:44:18] request for interest or rfi
[1:44:20] for the launch local program.
[1:44:22] This approval will allow us
[1:44:22] to
[1:44:23] mover forward with
[1:44:26] implementation and tenant
[1:44:28] outreach.
[1:44:29] this program was first
[1:44:31] introduced as a study session
[1:44:33] at the FEBRUARY 12 council
[1:44:34] meeting.
[1:44:35] It responds directly to the
[1:44:37] economic and visual
[1:44:38] challenges
[1:44:39] created by persistent vacant
[1:44:41] store fronts in our
[1:44:41] commercial
[1:44:42] corridors.
[1:44:44] Launch local supports first
[1:44:46] time brick and mortar
[1:44:48] businesses through leases and
[1:44:49] a tenant allowance up to 10
[1:44:51] thousand dollars and targeted
[1:44:51] outreach.
[1:44:53] The intent is to lower
[1:44:55] barriers to entry and pilot
[1:44:56] retail concept that is have
[1:45:01] long term potential.
[1:45:02] Council provided thoughtful
[1:45:03] and clear direction in
[1:45:05] FEBRUARY which shaped the
[1:45:06] final program before you
[1:45:07] tonight.
[1:45:08] You voiced support for
[1:45:09] activation goals and
[1:45:11] emphasized the importance of
[1:45:12] prioritizing south san
[1:45:13] francisco residents.
[1:45:15] There was particular interest
[1:45:17] in reactivating the former
[1:45:18] barbershop space and concern
[1:45:20] was raised about limiting
[1:45:21] participation to a one year
[1:45:23] lease term.
[1:45:24] You also encouraged us to
[1:45:26] create a model that private
[1:45:27] property owners could adopt.
[1:45:29] That input is reflected in
[1:45:33] tonight's proposal.
[1:45:35] I would also like to raise a
[1:45:37] related item for council
[1:45:38] discussion tonight.
[1:45:40] Since the FEBRUARY 12 study
[1:45:42] session, the city has
[1:45:42] received
[1:45:43] multiple inquiry from
[1:45:44] existing
[1:45:46] businesses, both local and
[1:45:47] from neighboring cities,
[1:45:48] interested in leasing the
[1:45:50] grand avenue spaces at market
[1:45:51] rate rent outside of the
[1:45:54] launch local program.
[1:45:55] One formal lease proposal has
[1:45:57] already been submit and had
[1:45:57] we
[1:45:59] anticipate receiving another
[1:45:59] soon.
[1:46:01] Notably one of the interested
[1:46:03] parties is an existing south
[1:46:04] san francisco business
[1:46:04] looking
[1:46:06] to open a second location and
[1:46:08] lease both of the city owned
[1:46:09] storefronts on grand avenue
[1:46:11] include lg the former
[1:46:13] barbershop space.
[1:46:15] Given this interest, staff is
[1:46:16] requesting council's
[1:46:16] direction
[1:46:18] on whether to continue
[1:46:19] reserving these spaces for
[1:46:21] launch local or to consider
[1:46:23] market rate lease proposals
[1:46:24] separately?
[1:46:26] Your input will help
[1:46:26] determine
[1:46:29] how we -- your input wll
[1:46:29] help
[1:46:30] determine how we proceed with
[1:46:32] these spaces while we
[1:46:33] continue
[1:46:36] rolling out the broader
[1:46:36] program.
[1:46:37] The name launch local was
[1:46:40] selected through a survey of
[1:46:41] key stakeholders including
[1:46:42] city staff, elected officials
[1:46:44] and staff pr the renaissance
[1:46:46] entrepreneurship center at
[1:46:46] the
[1:46:48] economic advancement center.
[1:46:49] It reflects both the
[1:46:50] program's
[1:46:51] focus on local
[1:46:52] entrepreneurship x the
[1:46:54] opportunity for participants
[1:46:55] to launch their first
[1:46:57] physical
[1:46:57] location.
[1:46:59] It's memorable, energetic and
[1:47:01] rooted in place.
[1:47:02] Branding icluding a logo is
[1:47:07] currently in development.
[1:47:09] The program has four key
[1:47:12] object tiers, first activate
[1:47:13] underutilized retail spaces
[1:47:14] in
[1:47:16] south san francisco, 2,
[1:47:19] support emerging for profit
[1:47:22] businesses, particularly those
[1:47:23] without a prior brick and
[1:47:23] mortar presence, 3, encourage
[1:47:25] unique and experiential
[1:47:26] retail
[1:47:29] or service concepts, and 4,
[1:47:30] prioritize local
[1:47:31] entrepreneurs
[1:47:34] especially gaduates of the
[1:47:35] renaissance entrepreneurship
[1:47:36] center programs at the
[1:47:40] economic advancement center.
[1:47:41] Under this pilot, the city
[1:47:43] will lease out ipsbacker its
[1:47:44] own vacant retail spaces on
[1:47:47] grand avenue and el camino
[1:47:50] real at a discounted rate at
[1:47:57] $1 per square foot.
[1:47:58] The standard lease term is
[1:47:59] one
[1:48:00] year with performance based
[1:48:05] options for renewal.
[1:48:08] The rfi will open on APRIL 1
[1:48:10] and close on APRIL 30.
[1:48:12] All proposals must be
[1:48:13] submitted electronically
[1:48:15] through procure now.
[1:48:16] We'll promote the opportunity
[1:48:19] broadly through the city's
[1:48:21] channels, the chamber of
[1:48:22] commerce and the eac.
[1:48:23] Materials will be available
[1:48:23] in
[1:48:24] english and spanish with
[1:48:25] other
[1:48:30] translations upon request.
[1:48:32] eligible applicants must be
[1:48:33] for profit businesses seeking
[1:48:35] their first south san
[1:48:37] francisco location, offering
[1:48:38] a
[1:48:39] retail or experiential s
[1:48:41] frs
[1:48:41] concept.
[1:48:42] Demonstrating readiness and
[1:48:45] capacity to operate including
[1:48:46] financial sustainability,
[1:48:48] priority will be given to
[1:48:49] renaissance program graduates
[1:48:52] aligning with their goal to
[1:48:55] uplift local entrepreneurs.
[1:48:57] The lease will be 12 months
[1:48:57] in
[1:49:00] duration with monthly sales
[1:49:01] evaluations, structured as
[1:49:03] triple net meaning tenants
[1:49:03] are
[1:49:04] responsible for property
[1:49:06] taxes, insurance and
[1:49:07] utilities
[1:49:09] and tenant improvement costs
[1:49:11] are reimbursed as a rent
[1:49:11] credit, performance and
[1:49:13] consistency will be evaluated
[1:49:14] monthly and successful
[1:49:15] tenants
[1:49:19] MAY be invited to extend.
[1:49:21] Tenants will pay a security
[1:49:23] deposit of $2 per square
[1:49:24] foot,
[1:49:25] operate at least 7 hours a
[1:49:28] day, five days a week, cover
[1:49:29] costs for insurance,
[1:49:31] utilities, garbage and
[1:49:32] maintain shared spaces and
[1:49:34] hold a valid city of south
[1:49:34] san
[1:49:38] francisco business license.
[1:49:39] Proposals will be reviewed o
[1:49:43] the following criteria,
[1:49:44] str
[1:49:45] epgt and creativity of
[1:49:45] the
[1:49:48] business concept, operational
[1:49:49] and readiness, financial
[1:49:50] sustainability and potential
[1:49:52] community impact.
[1:49:56] Finalists MAY be invited to
[1:49:57] present a [Inaudible] Ad
[1:49:59] participate in an interview.
[1:50:00] The rfi will be issued on
[1:50:02] APRIL 1 and proposals will be
[1:50:03] due on APRIL 30.
[1:50:05] Through the month of APRIL,
[1:50:06] we'll be available to answer
[1:50:07] questions and we plan to
[1:50:08] announce the selected
[1:50:12] businesses at the end of MAY.
[1:50:14] There is no impact to the
[1:50:15] general fund.
[1:50:18] The program uses city owned
[1:50:20] currently vacant space and is
[1:50:22] recoups rent through tenant
[1:50:23] spaces, the tenant payment
[1:50:25] allowance is striated as rent
[1:50:28] payment, the triple lease
[1:50:30] structure ensures the city is
[1:50:32] not absorbing additional
[1:50:32] costs.
[1:50:33] Launch local is an
[1:50:34] opportunity
[1:50:36] to support local
[1:50:37] entrepreneurship, enhance the
[1:50:39] vitality of our retail
[1:50:41] corridors, create a model
[1:50:41] that
[1:50:43] privateer owners can
[1:50:43] replicate.
[1:50:44] Pending council approval
[1:50:46] tonight, we will launch the
[1:50:49] rfi on APRIL 1 and we gin
[1:50:51] tenant outreach immediately.
[1:50:53] As a reminder, we're also
[1:50:56] seeking council's guidance on
[1:50:59] how to present with the grand
[1:51:01] avenue spaces outside the
[1:51:01] launch local program, thank
[1:51:02] you for your time and
[1:51:03] attention and I'm happy to
[1:51:05] answer any questions or
[1:51:06] discuss next steps.
[1:51:07] >> thank you, katie, greet
[1:51:10] work on this, great
[1:51:11] presentation, lots to unpack,
[1:51:13] I'm sure my colleagues have
[1:51:16] questions, so let's go with
[1:51:18] councilman nicolas?
[1:51:21] >> so, katie, on the market
[1:51:23] rate, you said we will have
[1:51:28] two, right?
[1:51:31] And one is already an
[1:51:33] established south city
[1:51:34] business.
[1:51:36] Pearly I think, you know,
[1:51:37] since it's market rate and I
[1:51:38] understand we would like to
[1:51:42] preserve the historical look
[1:51:44] of the barbershop, but from
[1:51:45] my
[1:51:47] point of view, a bird in hand
[1:51:51] is worth two in the bush, but
[1:51:59] I think there are still other
[1:51:59] city city properties that we
[1:52:00] can proceed with being the
[1:52:02] pilot project fr the launch
[1:52:07] local, is that correct?
[1:52:08] >> it will just be the one on
[1:52:09] el camino, correct, yeah.
[1:52:11] >> are there others aside
[1:52:11] from
[1:52:11] these two?
[1:52:13] >> those are the only
[1:52:15] vacancies, yeah.
[1:52:17] >> and then we will encourage
[1:52:20] also the other ones that are
[1:52:22] -- if we find out or if we
[1:52:23] can
[1:52:28] prove this is -- this is a
[1:52:31] viable option for property
[1:52:32] owners, have we talked to
[1:52:32] some
[1:52:33] of them and see what their
[1:52:34] interests are?
[1:52:36] >> we haven't talked to any
[1:52:38] yet but that was our
[1:52:39] intention
[1:52:42] if this pilot program deems
[1:52:43] successful and there was
[1:52:44] interest from council to
[1:52:47] expand it, we wuld look into
[1:52:48] private property owners.
[1:52:50] >> but I'm very supportive of
[1:52:52] what you have outlined for
[1:52:52] the
[1:52:53] launch local.
[1:52:53] >> thank you.
[1:52:55] >> great, thank you.
[1:52:58] Anyone ese?
[1:52:59] >> I also am supportive of
[1:53:00] the
[1:53:01] program and we wanted to test
[1:53:03] drive it with all the
[1:53:04] properties w have available
[1:53:06] but in the meantime, katie
[1:53:07] was
[1:53:09] kind enough to show the
[1:53:10] property to a family that
[1:53:11] I've
[1:53:12] known for a dozen years who
[1:53:15] are currently in business and
[1:53:16] as the COUNCILWOMAN
[1:53:16] Mentioned,
[1:53:18] you know, a bird in the hand,
[1:53:20] so it really speaks to the
[1:53:21] viability of our downtown
[1:53:22] that
[1:53:26] somebody wants it right away
[1:53:28] and you MAY or MAY not come
[1:53:29] to
[1:53:30] agreement on all the terms,
[1:53:34] but the el camino is a whole
[1:53:34] different challenge so it
[1:53:35] will
[1:53:39] be interesting to see who's
[1:53:40] interested.
[1:53:44] As far as the tenant
[1:53:45] participation, it is -- a
[1:53:46] dollar a square foot is a
[1:53:48] great deal but all those
[1:53:48] other
[1:53:50] things add up rapidly too, so
[1:53:52] it's quite a commitment for
[1:53:54] someone coming out of a home
[1:53:56] business or just a concept,
[1:53:56] so
[1:53:57] anyway, but generally I like
[1:54:00] the idea and you were
[1:54:01] wonderful in kpix.
[1:54:05] >> thank you.
[1:54:06] >> councilmember?
[1:54:08] >> thanks, MR. Mayor, I agree
[1:54:09] with my colleagues, I think
[1:54:12] this is potentially a great
[1:54:14] pilot program.
[1:54:16] I think I kind of share the
[1:54:18] concerns in terms of like el
[1:54:20] camino real versus grand
[1:54:20] avenue.
[1:54:23] You know, one of the things I
[1:54:24] was thinking about, you know,
[1:54:27] if we place this business on
[1:54:29] grand avenue, they do well,
[1:54:30] eventually they have to
[1:54:31] rotate
[1:54:34] out or we could maybe extend
[1:54:36] the lease as well, is that
[1:54:37] another option?
[1:54:40] The idea is to rotate to have
[1:54:44] a -- not a rediscovering
[1:54:48] involver -- revolving door,
[1:54:49] but a pop up business, you
[1:54:51] would help the tenant either
[1:54:53] locate somewhere else, I
[1:54:53] that
[1:54:54] correct, or --
[1:54:55] >> yes, we could do that.
[1:54:58] >> okay, but at that point,
[1:54:59] they're paying potentially
[1:55:00] full market value?
[1:55:01] >> correct.
[1:55:03] >> and that potentially
[1:55:04] could
[1:55:05] be a problem as well because
[1:55:07] they were paying a pretty
[1:55:08] good
[1:55:10] rate and hopefully they were
[1:55:11] start in terms of saving
[1:55:11] their
[1:55:13] money and doing the right
[1:55:15] business model so they're
[1:55:16] reminded, hey, this is only
[1:55:18] temporary, you're going to be
[1:55:19] here, we want to establish
[1:55:22] your business and then
[1:55:24] potentially rotate out into
[1:55:25] another location, so I think
[1:55:27] that's going to be on you and
[1:55:29] staff to say, okay, you could
[1:55:31] have a good business model in
[1:55:32] the sense, you have to get
[1:55:34] ready for the full market,
[1:55:34] you
[1:55:36] know, so I kind of want -- a
[1:55:39] long way of singing on what
[1:55:42] are you asking them to help
[1:55:43] them relocate, I know it's
[1:55:45] early but I want you to be
[1:55:47] thinking about that.
[1:55:49] >> yeah, we haven't gotten
[1:55:51] that far in that planning
[1:55:52] process, but that's part of
[1:55:55] the reason why we want to
[1:55:56] prioritize renaissance
[1:55:56] graduates because they've
[1:55:58] gone
[1:56:02] through an extensive business
[1:56:03] class and, you know, city
[1:56:04] staff will be available to
[1:56:06] help them and renaissance
[1:56:09] staff will be available to
[1:56:10] help them, so, they learn
[1:56:12] these skills of like if
[1:56:13] they're even capable to be
[1:56:16] running a brick and mortar
[1:56:17] business ad hopefully
[1:56:20] scavenging aving -- saving
[1:56:21] some money e even if they
[1:56:23] can't hit that market rate
[1:56:27] rent, maybe it if it's 75%
[1:56:28] market rate, so that's all
[1:56:29] things we'll have to play out
[1:56:34] when we see those numbers.
[1:56:35] >> I look forward to it.
[1:56:38] There is kind of the
[1:56:38] interesting conversation of
[1:56:40] talking to other landlords to
[1:56:41] see if they're interested in
[1:56:44] doing this kind of model.
[1:56:46] Someone said they want a
[1:56:49] permitted kind of tenant,
[1:56:49] than
[1:56:51] a temporary tenant but I'm
[1:56:53] supportive of the concept.
[1:56:55] >> thank you.
[1:56:57] >> I think this I a great
[1:56:59] idea and I wanted to thank
[1:57:01] staff for having the
[1:57:01] visionary
[1:57:03] in them to present this to us
[1:57:05] and to really activate these
[1:57:07] vacant spaces so I'm ready to
[1:57:08] mover forward with the pilot
[1:57:10] program and I can't wait to
[1:57:11] see which businesses move in.
[1:57:12] >> thank you.
[1:57:13] >> thank you, this is
[1:57:14] exciting, this is the right
[1:57:15] direction that we need to
[1:57:16] head
[1:57:19] not only for downtown but for
[1:57:20] our entire city being a
[1:57:22] creative out of the box
[1:57:23] thinking, I really appreciate
[1:57:24] the name too and looking
[1:57:26] forward to the logo.
[1:57:27] In the guidelines when you
[1:57:29] determine who can apply, you
[1:57:30] said for profit businesses
[1:57:32] seeking first south city
[1:57:33] location but you're also
[1:57:34] mentioning this local one
[1:57:36] would have a second south
[1:57:36] city
[1:57:38] location, so is that just a
[1:57:39] caveat for that particular
[1:57:40] case?
[1:57:42] >> so, that's what we mean,
[1:57:44] like, that's what we wanted
[1:57:44] to
[1:57:46] get some guidance on is do we
[1:57:48] want to make an exception to
[1:57:49] this program, do we really
[1:57:51] want to reserve these spaces
[1:57:54] for launch local or would we
[1:57:55] like to have something that's
[1:57:58] possibly a bit more secure
[1:57:59] that's an established
[1:58:00] business, can afford the
[1:58:04] market rate rent and work on
[1:58:05] lease negotiation terms with
[1:58:07] them and then maybe we find a
[1:58:09] different way, like w just
[1:58:12] focus on el camino, do we
[1:58:14] start maybe having talks with
[1:58:15] private property owners?
[1:58:17] >> because it doesn't really
[1:58:20] fit into your name if it's
[1:58:20] launch local, right.
[1:58:21] >> correct.
[1:58:21] Er
[1:58:22] >> you have to rename it.
[1:58:23] >> yes.
[1:58:24] Er
[1:58:26] >> I'm supportive like my
[1:58:29] colleagues have said, I'm
[1:58:30] open
[1:58:34] to el camino, grand avenue we
[1:58:35] could prioritize for our
[1:58:35] local
[1:58:38] businesses here that would
[1:58:39] like to expand, right, or
[1:58:39] have
[1:58:40] a second location.
[1:58:46] I think it fits with the nay
[1:58:47] ture and khur and the fabric
[1:58:50] of downtown and represented
[1:58:54] in that sector of businesses.
[1:58:59] I can't speak enough, their
[1:59:00] program fully vets them and
[1:59:02] fully prepares them, not only
[1:59:03] in city permitting but in
[1:59:05] marketing and being able to
[1:59:07] launch and being able to
[1:59:09] network and really sell and
[1:59:11] equips them with the tools,
[1:59:12] the important tools they need
[1:59:14] to be a successful business
[1:59:15] owner so that's the key for
[1:59:18] me, being able to already
[1:59:21] connect individuals that are
[1:59:22] ready, are in the right
[1:59:24] mindset and the space to move
[1:59:26] forward and I think the lease
[1:59:28] structure and the program
[1:59:30] guidelines are extremely well
[1:59:31] thought out, so I'm very
[1:59:33] supportive of this, thank you.
[1:59:34] Good job again, I appreciate
[1:59:34] this.
[1:59:36] >> I have one more question.
[1:59:37] I was a little bit confused
[1:59:38] by
[1:59:40] some of the questions and the
[1:59:41] answers to MR. Nagales.
[1:59:44] So, if we have somebody go in
[1:59:50] for that 12 months initially,
[1:59:51] they're not automatically out
[1:59:52] in month 13, are they?
[1:59:54] >> no.
[1:59:56] >> a very lng time ago, I
[1:59:56] was
[1:59:59] if business, the first yar
[1:59:59] is
[2:00:01] a xwlaoet blur, you can
[2:00:02] barely
[2:00:06] get your bearings the first
[2:00:07] year, we want somebody to be
[2:00:11] able to grow their roots in a
[2:00:12] business.
[2:00:14] >> yes.
[2:00:15] >> nell selander here, I
[2:00:17] wanted to add one thing, the
[2:00:19] year check-in is a great
[2:00:20] opportunity for us to make
[2:00:21] sure they're oerating the
[2:00:23] business they intended to, so
[2:00:26] one of the big object tiers
[2:00:26] of
[2:00:31] the program is activation and
[2:00:36] being more vibrant and what
[2:00:39] can often happen with a
[2:00:40] business that's struggling is
[2:00:41] their hours get reduced and
[2:00:41] reduced and maybe they start
[2:00:42] using the space for a
[2:00:43] different it is back office
[2:00:46] for this or it's, you know,
[2:00:49] it's nt what was intended by
[2:00:51] the program, so the year
[2:00:53] check-in and the monthly
[2:00:53] sales
[2:00:55] reports are really important
[2:00:56] so that we're getting what
[2:00:56] the
[2:00:58] program is intended to
[2:00:59] provide
[2:01:02] which is active service or
[2:01:04] retail and that year check-in
[2:01:05] will be more about the
[2:01:07] performance of the business
[2:01:11] and can they afford market
[2:01:12] rate today, but we want to
[2:01:14] make sure we have that check
[2:01:15] so we don't end up with
[2:01:17] another space that's
[2:01:17] underutilized.
[2:01:19] >> I think it's interesting
[2:01:19] to
[2:01:21] see so much o the
[2:01:22] construction, the commercial
[2:01:24] development of the ground
[2:01:25] floor has not been a roaring
[2:01:27] success n the city of san
[2:01:32] mateo, there's a doper called
[2:01:34] essex na has a project on dep
[2:01:35] ware avenue near 92, they
[2:01:36] announced they're goipg the
[2:01:38] leave their office space in
[2:01:39] downtown san mateo and take
[2:01:40] over the commercial space on
[2:01:42] the ground floor to ativate
[2:01:46] the other part of the retail
[2:01:47] space, besides the 500 tenant
[2:01:49] that is are in the building,
[2:01:51] they're going to have a
[2:01:51] couple
[2:01:52] of 100 employees working in
[2:01:53] the offices there.
[2:01:55] Are we able to do the same
[2:01:55] thing?
[2:01:57] I know in the past, we had
[2:01:58] some restrictions on what
[2:02:00] could go in the ground floor
[2:02:02] but are we ale to do
[2:02:04] something similar where it
[2:02:05] could b maybe an intense
[2:02:07] office use to generate
[2:02:12] activity on the street?
[2:02:13] >> billy with planning
[2:02:15] division, we have taken a
[2:02:15] way,
[2:02:18] any requirement for even
[2:02:20] commercial space, it's more
[2:02:22] about design, does it have an
[2:02:25] active front, does it have
[2:02:26] windows, it could be office
[2:02:27] space, we don't require there
[2:02:31] to be a certain percentage of
[2:02:32] commercial space, it's all
[2:02:33] design related.
[2:02:34] >> before we were looking for
[2:02:36] the retail experience and
[2:02:36] that
[2:02:39] has evaporated.
[2:02:40] >> it could be a senior
[2:02:42] center, it could be a
[2:02:43] community center.
[2:02:45] It could be a lot of things
[2:02:45] happening, especially I
[2:02:48] downtown and anywhere else.
[2:02:48] Alright.
[2:02:50] If I don't have any o
[2:02:51] ir
[2:02:51] other
[2:02:52] comments or questions --
[2:02:54] >> I just want to clarify
[2:02:54] from
[2:02:57] my understanding, is
[2:02:57] council's
[2:02:59] direction that the preference
[2:03:00] -- are we hearing a
[2:03:01] preference
[2:03:02] for an established business
[2:03:03] to
[2:03:04] rent this retail space at
[2:03:06] market rate or are you saying
[2:03:11] we should give preference to
[2:03:12] the launch local folks?
[2:03:14] I'm trying to understand what
[2:03:15] your preference is.
[2:03:18] We would -- the el camino one
[2:03:20] is vacant, that could be a
[2:03:21] launch local, and in the
[2:03:23] future, other city owned
[2:03:23] properties could become
[2:03:25] vacant, once we have the
[2:03:26] guidelines and the framework
[2:03:30] and we have one pilot in el
[2:03:31] camino, I'm trying to get
[2:03:33] whether we should pursue this
[2:03:33] other opportunity for
[2:03:34] somebody
[2:03:36] that wants tos rent it at
[2:03:37] market rate or hold those
[2:03:38] spaces for launch local.
[2:03:40] I want to be clear with that.
[2:03:42] >> aisle reiterate, you can't
[2:03:43] imagine smebody walking by
[2:03:45] and somebody wants to do
[2:03:46] market rate right now.
[2:03:48] >> that's how I feel, and in
[2:03:53] terms of making sure that the
[2:03:55] historical effects, maybe the
[2:03:56] historical society will be
[2:04:00] pressed and we'll focus on
[2:04:00] the
[2:04:02] 366 el camino, perhaps what
[2:04:03] we
[2:04:05] can do is perhaps the
[2:04:06] renaissance graduates will be
[2:04:08] -- because the place there,
[2:04:14] there's a lab and a florist,
[2:04:16] maybe something that will be
[2:04:17] complementing to those
[2:04:18] establishments that are
[2:04:19] already in there.
[2:04:22] i went to milty lab one day
[2:04:24] and there's long line and a
[2:04:25] long waiting list so I think
[2:04:27] the business is tieing and
[2:04:29] florist, it looks like
[2:04:29] they're
[2:04:31] doing business, so I think
[2:04:32] from the renaissance
[2:04:35] graduates, we can have a hand
[2:04:36] in picking out all of those
[2:04:38] that we will be doing the
[2:04:40] launch local projects so that
[2:04:42] we will be assured they will
[2:04:44] be thriving.
[2:04:51] >> got it, thank you so much.
[2:04:53] >> that's not just one, it is
[2:04:54] a huge space, hopefully that
[2:04:56] is one of the tenants there,
[2:04:57] hopefully we get that taken
[2:05:00] care of too, right.
[2:05:02] >> great, you have direction.
[2:05:03] I think this is also
[2:05:04] important
[2:05:08] to note that it's good the
[2:05:08] one
[2:05:09] year check-in, provide data
[2:05:10] for us, right.
[2:05:10] That way request
[2:05:11] f we can
[2:05:12] make an informed decision.
[2:05:14] I think after all this I a
[2:05:15] pilot program so we're able
[2:05:16] to
[2:05:17] kind of finesse and tweak a
[2:05:19] few things but for right now,
[2:05:21] this is what we're -- I'm
[2:05:23] hearing consensus from my
[2:05:24] colleagues here.
[2:05:25] Good?
[2:05:25] Okay.
[2:05:27] >> you need a motion?
[2:05:28] >> let me check on public
[2:05:29] comments first.
[2:05:30] >> no pblic comments but we
[2:05:31] do need a motion.
[2:05:35] >> we do need a motion now.
[2:05:37] >> I will make the motion, is
[2:05:37] there a second?
[2:05:38] >> I second.
[2:05:40] >> thank you, piser and
[2:05:42] second, roll call.
[2:05:43] >> vice mayor yeasting goe?
[2:05:44] >> yes.
[2:05:45] >> councilmember coleman?
[2:05:45] >> yes.
[2:05:46] Er maifrjt yor flores?
[2:05:47] .
[2:05:48] Inger yes.
[2:05:49] >> councilmember nagales?
[2:05:51] >> aye.
[2:05:51] >> councilmember nicolas?
[2:05:52] >> aye.
[2:05:58] >> moving on to item 11 is a
[2:06:00] record regarding a resolution
[2:06:02] approving an increase to the
[2:06:03] south san francisco toe
[2:06:06] services rates to the maximum
[2:06:07] allowable toeing rate that is
[2:06:09] are comparable to other
[2:06:09] police
[2:06:10] agencies in northern san
[2:06:12] mateo
[2:06:12] county.
[2:06:14] And 11a is the resolution.
[2:06:16] >> tla's why you all are here
[2:06:16] today.
[2:06:19] >> thank you, good evening,
[2:06:20] councilmembers, my name is
[2:06:22] adam plank, one of the
[2:06:23] captains with the police
[2:06:24] department.
[2:06:25] Tonight my presentation
[2:06:27] involves an overview of the
[2:06:29] city's rotational tow
[2:06:31] program
[2:06:33] and a request to update those
[2:06:36] fees ask the industry
[2:06:37] standard
[2:06:38] for city ins san mateo county.
[2:06:41] The police department have
[2:07:00] vehicles removed from the
[2:07:01] [Inaudible] Insurance
[2:07:02] requirements, alcohol and
[2:07:02] drug
[2:07:04] testing loosing kaix of where
[2:07:06] those storage lots are,
[2:07:08] response times, safeguarding
[2:07:09] vehicles and following the
[2:07:10] maximum rates that tow
[2:07:12] companies can charge for
[2:07:13] police generated tows are
[2:07:13] some
[2:07:15] of those regulations.
[2:07:19] Those regulations ensure that
[2:07:21] tow companies provide safe
[2:07:21] quality service to our
[2:07:22] community and their vehicles
[2:07:23] are accessible and within
[2:07:24] secured storage facilities if
[2:07:27] south san francisco.
[2:07:28] A police generated tow
[2:07:28] request
[2:07:33] can happen for a variety of
[2:07:33] reasons.
[2:07:35] And those could include a
[2:07:36] vehicle that's blocking a
[2:07:39] roadway and cannot be safely
[2:07:41] moved, certain violations of
[2:07:43] the vehicle code like
[2:07:43] blocking
[2:07:44] someone's driveway and we're
[2:07:46] unable to get a hold of that
[2:07:47] owner, parking in a a posted
[2:07:48] construction zone, a marked
[2:07:50] tow away zone and we can't
[2:07:50] get
[2:07:53] a hold of those owners and
[2:07:55] also when certain cases when
[2:07:56] a
[2:07:57] driver's arrested, the
[2:07:57] vehicle
[2:07:58] can't safely remain parked at
[2:07:59] the scene.
[2:08:03] We do make attempts to locate
[2:08:05] the owner and have the
[2:08:06] vehicle
[2:08:08] moved prior to it being towed
[2:08:10] in the crcumstances where we
[2:08:12] have that ability to make
[2:08:14] that
[2:08:15] decision.
[2:08:16] Our mximum allowable tow
[2:08:18] rates have been unchanged
[2:08:20] since 2016 resulting in our
[2:08:22] rates being the lowest of the
[2:08:23] 8 jurisdictions in northern
[2:08:25] san mateo county.
[2:08:29] Tow companies like other
[2:08:31] businesses have expressed
[2:08:34] experiences with increased
[2:08:35] operational costs like rent,
[2:08:37] equipment, fuel, insurance
[2:08:37] and
[2:08:40] labor costs, per our
[2:08:41] municipal
[2:08:43] code, those police maximum
[2:08:47] allowable tow fees can be
[2:08:49] adjusted after a review from
[2:08:50] the police department and
[2:08:51] after speaking to a
[2:08:51] designated
[2:08:54] representative of those tow
[2:08:54] companies.
[2:08:55] And conducting a survey of
[2:08:58] what the other rotational tow
[2:09:00] companies in northern san
[2:09:03] mateo county cities charge.
[2:09:05] The current fee in south san
[2:09:08] francisco for a basic tow fee
[2:09:09] is $225.
[2:09:10] After meeting with the
[2:09:11] representative of the tow
[2:09:14] companies, we conducted a
[2:09:19] survey, as you can se on the
[2:09:20] chart, san francisco fees are
[2:09:23] the lowest of those 8 cities
[2:09:27] in northern san mateo county.
[2:09:29] The srvey that we conducted
[2:09:31] taking south san francisco
[2:09:32] out
[2:09:35] showed an average of $323 per
[2:09:36] tow as being the average
[2:09:37] levering south san francisco
[2:09:40] in as one of the 8 -- the
[2:09:44] average would be $311 per tow.
[2:09:45] The tow companies in addition
[2:09:46] to the survey, the tow
[2:09:48] companies have proposed we
[2:09:49] increase the basic tow
[2:09:50] service
[2:09:52] fee to $325 so they remain
[2:09:54] comparable to other
[2:09:55] jurisdictions in northern san
[2:09:56] mateo cunty.
[2:10:00] On our next slide, you will
[2:10:03] see what those proposed rates
[2:10:06] would be and the additional
[2:10:07] services that are involved in
[2:10:09] towing vehicles.
[2:10:11] It's important to note that
[2:10:12] most vehicles only require a
[2:10:15] basic tow and a basic storage
[2:10:16] fee.
[2:10:16] On some occassions,
[2:10:17] specialized equipment lke a
[2:10:21] flat bed a dolly, or a more
[2:10:22] heavy duty medium sized heavy
[2:10:24] duty or super duty truck are
[2:10:27] needed to safely remover a
[2:10:29] vehicle, a bus, a larger
[2:10:31] vehicle from the safe --
[2:10:35] safely from the road.
[2:10:38] On our next slide, if the
[2:10:40] proposed fees were accepted
[2:10:42] and approved, this would show
[2:10:44] where south san francisco
[2:10:47] would be with those adjusted
[2:10:48] rates, it's not at the very
[2:10:49] top, it's in the middle,
[2:10:53] comparable with the other
[2:10:55] agencies.
[2:10:57] In speaking with a couple
[2:10:58] other agencies in northern
[2:10:59] san
[2:11:00] mateo county, I learned that
[2:11:01] there are other cities on
[2:11:02] this
[2:11:05] list that are looking to also
[2:11:06] evaluate and adjust their
[2:11:09] rates to keep them current
[2:11:11] with the industry standard.
[2:11:14] As noted in the staff report,
[2:11:15] but worth mentioning tonight,
[2:11:17] all all of the proposed fees
[2:11:18] we're talking about do not
[2:11:19] get
[2:11:20] paid to the city, these are
[2:11:22] paid to the tow truck
[2:11:24] companies and for their
[2:11:26] services in towing these
[2:11:28] vehicles dependent upon the
[2:11:29] circumstances.
[2:11:31] So, in conclusion, the
[2:11:33] rotational tow program
[2:11:34] establishes a standard level
[2:11:36] of service that tow companies
[2:11:38] must provide, it's regulated,
[2:11:40] when performing their police
[2:11:42] generated tows, the maximum
[2:11:44] allowable tow fees have been
[2:11:46] unchanged since 2016 and
[2:11:47] currently don't accurately
[2:11:49] reflect the industry standard
[2:11:51] for northern san mateo county.
[2:11:52] It's recommended that city
[2:11:54] council review and adopt the
[2:11:55] proposed rate adjustments for
[2:11:57] the maximum allowable fees
[2:11:59] associated with police
[2:11:59] generated tow services.
[2:12:02] Thank you, that concludes my
[2:12:03] presentation, I'm available
[2:12:05] for questions and with me
[2:12:05] here
[2:12:07] tonight are a representative
[2:12:07] from each of the tow
[2:12:08] companies
[2:12:10] if you have an operational
[2:12:11] question or something
[2:12:11] specific
[2:12:12] that I wouldn't be able to
[2:12:14] answer for you.
[2:12:16] >> thank you, captain plank,
[2:12:16] I
[2:12:17] appreciate the presentation.
[2:12:21] Any questions?
[2:12:22] Councilmember nagales?
[2:12:24] >> thank you.
[2:12:26] I appreciate kind of just
[2:12:27] understanding what the actual
[2:12:28] increase is ging to be
[2:12:29] paying
[2:12:32] for because I wasn't quite
[2:12:34] sure, like, I was looking at
[2:12:35] it like, okay, aren't we
[2:12:36] getting a better deal by
[2:12:40] paying less I terms of the
[2:12:42] rate but you answered the
[2:12:43] question for me.
[2:12:44] So, when someone goes in, I
[2:12:46] want to understand the fees
[2:12:47] here, so what you're asking
[2:12:49] for the basic tow fees is
[2:12:52] going to be 325 now, the
[2:12:54] person would come in and pay
[2:12:54] for that.
[2:12:56] There was something about an
[2:12:57] administrative fee on the
[2:12:59] bottom of the attachment b,
[2:13:00] there was an administrative
[2:13:01] fee?
[2:13:02] >> yes, on the bottom of the
[2:13:03] tow form?
[2:13:04] >> yes.
[2:13:08] >> yes, that is a south city
[2:13:09] of south san francisco fee
[2:13:11] that's in our master fee
[2:13:14] schedule for the processing
[2:13:15] of
[2:13:16] paperwork, the mailing of
[2:13:18] notices when a vehicle gets
[2:13:22] towed to the registered
[2:13:23] owner, that's the
[2:13:25] administrative costs that are
[2:13:27] paid to the police department
[2:13:28] when there's a police
[2:13:31] generated tow.
[2:13:33] >> so I want to get that
[2:13:34] process correct, when
[2:13:36] someone's car gets towed, not
[2:13:39] only are they paying
[2:13:40] potentially a $325 towing
[2:13:41] fee,
[2:13:43] but now they're paying this
[2:13:43] administrative fee as well?
[2:13:44] >> yes, that's correct.
[2:13:47] And that's a vehicle release
[2:13:47] fee.
[2:13:49] >> which is $160 now.
[2:13:49] Er
[2:13:52] >> yes, it is.
[2:13:54] >> okay, has there been a
[2:13:54] time
[2:13:56] when an individual has come
[2:13:56] to
[2:13:58] the towing company and sy I
[2:14:00] can't pay for these fees,
[2:14:00] it's
[2:14:01] too high.
[2:14:02] Is there like a payment plan
[2:14:05] that a person can do in terms
[2:14:06] of trying to release the
[2:14:09] vehicle?
[2:14:10] >> in speaking to at least
[2:14:10] one
[2:14:13] of the companies, they did
[2:14:15] express an option case by
[2:14:15] case
[2:14:16] based on the circumstances
[2:14:19] where a payment plan might be
[2:14:23] an option but it's also
[2:14:25] somewhat o a risky option if
[2:14:27] the vhicle is being released
[2:14:28] and there's an agreement that
[2:14:30] doesn't get fulfilled.
[2:14:34] >> now, the person's already
[2:14:34] being penalized already, and
[2:14:36] for those who are potentially
[2:14:37] low income and having a
[2:14:39] difficult time paying for
[2:14:40] these fees, a lot of the
[2:14:41] folks
[2:14:42] rely on their vehicle to get
[2:14:45] to work or to get to point a
[2:14:48] to point b, so I'm just
[2:14:49] trying
[2:14:50] to understand what the
[2:14:50] process
[2:14:52] is in terms of if someone is
[2:14:53] having a difficult time
[2:14:54] paying
[2:14:54] for it.
[2:14:56] If the person can't pay for
[2:14:58] it, the car is going to be in
[2:15:00] storage and now they can't
[2:15:03] travel, you know or I guess
[2:15:04] they have to take public
[2:15:05] transportation in this case z.
[2:15:09] >> from speak toing the tow
[2:15:11] companies, the tow fee and
[2:15:11] any
[2:15:13] associated storage fees
[2:15:16] usually isn't the hurdle that
[2:15:18] needs to get over in order to
[2:15:21] get the car out.
[2:15:24] Oftentimes, there is
[2:15:24] associated expired
[2:15:26] registration fee that is are
[2:15:28] owed to dmv that ae required
[2:15:30] to be paid in current prior
[2:15:31] to
[2:15:32] getting thing vehicle
[2:15:32] released
[2:15:34] and back to them.
[2:15:39] Also if there are other
[2:15:40] circumstances, a driver's
[2:15:41] license if the registered
[2:15:43] owner has a a dmv issue that
[2:15:45] needs to be corrected, there
[2:15:46] might be something that needs
[2:15:49] to be handled at dmv prior to
[2:15:51] going to the tow to address
[2:15:52] the basic fee and storage.
[2:15:55] >> thank you for answering
[2:15:56] that, I wonder if this is a a
[2:15:57] hindrance in trying to
[2:15:58] release
[2:16:00] the vehicle, but it sound
[2:16:00] like
[2:16:02] that's not the main issue.
[2:16:04] Are they located in south san
[2:16:05] francisco, these three
[2:16:07] companies?
[2:16:11] >> bob junior's is located on
[2:16:13] south linden, action tow has
[2:16:16] an office on north canal --
[2:16:19] south canal and courtesy tow,
[2:16:22] I'm drawing a blank.
[2:16:23] On montgomery avenue jst
[2:16:23] into
[2:16:24] san bruno.
[2:16:27] >> that means the fast
[2:16:28] service
[2:16:29] service when we need tem.
[2:16:30] >> which is one of the
[2:16:31] requirements, either within
[2:16:32] south san francisco or a
[2:16:33] certain distance from our
[2:16:34] city
[2:16:36] limit that is allows anyone
[2:16:38] who's having their car towed
[2:16:39] from our police department
[2:16:42] doesn't have to travel
[2:16:44] multiple cities away or be
[2:16:45] inconvenienced in order to
[2:16:46] access their car.
[2:16:48] >> okay, thank you, I'm fine
[2:16:48] with this now.
[2:16:49] Thank you.
[2:16:50] >> thank you.
[2:16:53] Other questions?
[2:16:54] Go ahead, COUNCILWOMAN.
[2:16:56] >> captain plank, if a a car
[2:16:59] is towed not because of te
[2:17:01] owner's fault, say for
[2:17:02] example
[2:17:03] it's been car napped and
[2:17:05] vandalized and it didn't get
[2:17:07] to an owner until sometime
[2:17:10] later, how -- are they still
[2:17:11] liable to pay for all those
[2:17:12] charges?
[2:17:17] >> if a vehicle is recovered
[2:17:19] stolen vehicle, if the
[2:17:19] registered owner is the
[2:17:20] victim
[2:17:21] of a crime and it's towed as
[2:17:21] a
[2:17:24] result of that crime, our fee
[2:17:27] at the police department can
[2:17:32] be wavered by us vered --
[2:17:33] wavered by us under those
[2:17:33] circumstances.
[2:17:35] The other fee that is are
[2:17:36] assessed by the tow
[2:17:37] companies,
[2:17:38] if there's isurance
[2:17:38] involved,
[2:17:41] whether it's triple a or some
[2:17:43] other type of insurance that
[2:17:44] has coverage on whatever
[2:17:45] other
[2:17:45] circumstances happened, I
[2:17:46] know
[2:17:48] that that is an option for
[2:17:51] what was described to me as a
[2:17:51] reimbursement from those
[2:17:53] companies, maybe an upfront
[2:17:54] charge with the insurance
[2:17:56] reimbursing at a later time,
[2:17:58] but more specifically I might
[2:17:59] need to refer to one of the
[2:18:02] tow companies for how the
[2:18:07] processing of the transaction
[2:18:08] would be.
[2:18:10] >> could we hve them come up
[2:18:12] and give us the scenario
[2:18:17] please, if you don't mind.
[2:18:18] Good evening, welcome.
[2:18:21] >> my name is brian banks,
[2:18:21] the
[2:18:24] opener of action towing.
[2:18:25] So, probably 95% of the tows
[2:18:27] that we are doing are
[2:18:27] normally
[2:18:29] not the situation you're
[2:18:30] describing, they're only
[2:18:30] about
[2:18:32] 5% of the tows we're doing.
[2:18:33] The majority of the tows
[2:18:33] we're
[2:18:35] doing are people that have
[2:18:37] violated laws, have not paid
[2:18:39] their registrations, are
[2:18:40] driving without driver's
[2:18:42] licenses and in some cases
[2:18:44] many of the cases the cars
[2:18:46] we're towing, probably 50% of
[2:18:47] the cases we're doing in
[2:18:48] south
[2:18:50] san francisco is abandoned
[2:18:50] vehicles.
[2:18:52] So, it MAY seem like a lot of
[2:18:53] money to you guys as you're
[2:18:54] processing this, what you
[2:18:55] need
[2:18:56] to understand is that more
[2:18:58] than 50% of these vehicles,
[2:19:00] probably more like 65 or 70
[2:19:02] percent of these vehicles are
[2:19:03] never being picked up.
[2:19:05] You guys have done a
[2:19:05] wonderful
[2:19:06] job in south san francisco
[2:19:07] and
[2:19:08] being here tonight, this is
[2:19:09] amazing and beautiful and
[2:19:11] we're doing our part to help
[2:19:13] keep your streets clean.
[2:19:15] So, what we're asking for is
[2:19:15] a
[2:19:16] rate increase because of the
[2:19:18] fact that our businesses,
[2:19:19] you've heard it from your
[2:19:21] planning department and
[2:19:22] everybody else, things have
[2:19:24] gone through the roof.
[2:19:26] Metal for us is at a 7 year
[2:19:28] low and so that's how we get
[2:19:29] paid for these vehicle,
[2:19:31] sometimes we might tow a car
[2:19:32] where we have a driver goes
[2:19:34] out and tows it, he's on the
[2:19:35] job for an hour and a half,
[2:19:38] two hours, we have to pay a
[2:19:40] lien sale fee, we have to
[2:19:41] store this vehicle for
[2:19:41] upwards
[2:19:44] of some cases, anywhere will
[2:19:45] be a quick one will be 30 day
[2:19:47] and is a long one will be 6
[2:19:49] months, we're stringing in a
[2:19:50] building, rents are not
[2:19:50] cheap,
[2:19:53] we discussed what it is a
[2:19:55] square foot, especially for a
[2:19:58] warehouse so, the expenses
[2:19:58] are
[2:20:00] enormous and most of the
[2:20:01] vehicles are not being picked
[2:20:03] up websinger eve seen
[2:20:04] inflation of our equipment
[2:20:04] has
[2:20:07] gone up over 30% to buy a new
[2:20:08] tow truck, our insurance is
[2:20:11] going up on average just like
[2:20:13] yours, I'm insurance on your
[2:20:15] homes 20% a year tha,'s the
[2:20:17] facts of what's going on, all
[2:20:19] of these expenses are goipg
[2:20:21] up, we're not trying to
[2:20:21] punish
[2:20:23] -- it looks like a lot of
[2:20:25] money but we're not trying to
[2:20:26] punish good people, we have
[2:20:26] to
[2:20:27] pay for the s
[2:20:27] frs we provide
[2:20:29] for the city and keeping your
[2:20:30] streets clean s you guys
[2:20:30] will
[2:20:31] continue to mover forward and
[2:20:33] have this beautiful city
[2:20:33] where
[2:20:35] people want to develop
[2:20:37] apartment and is buildings
[2:20:38] and
[2:20:39] do business here, so the
[2:20:39] other
[2:20:42] answer to your question is
[2:20:44] those 5%, most of those
[2:20:44] people
[2:20:45] do have insurance, like if
[2:20:45] you
[2:20:47] were in an accident and the
[2:20:49] people that hit you did not
[2:20:50] have insurance, you would
[2:20:50] lean
[2:20:52] on your insurance on that, if
[2:20:54] there's accident and is your
[2:20:56] car is stolen, the good
[2:20:57] people
[2:20:58] seem to pay the fees for the
[2:20:59] bad people and there's no
[2:21:00] other way around that but
[2:21:02] providing they have good
[2:21:03] insurance and follow the laws
[2:21:05] that they have, normally the
[2:21:07] insurance will come ad
[2:21:08] reimburse them for their
[2:21:10] expense and is most of the
[2:21:12] time the insurance picks them
[2:21:14] up, the people who do pick
[2:21:15] them up primarily are the
[2:21:19] people that have dui's,
[2:21:21] expired reds, driving on a
[2:21:23] suspended license, not good
[2:21:28] behavior they're being pun
[2:21:29] --
[2:21:30] punished for a reason, this
[2:21:30] is
[2:21:33] another part of a punishment,
[2:21:34] that's why we're asking for
[2:21:36] more money, for the obvious
[2:21:38] expenses we have, we've been
[2:21:39] good partners to the city for
[2:21:41] a long time, we asked for a
[2:21:42] long period of time for
[2:21:43] raises, ask you guys have
[2:21:46] worked for us but we feel
[2:21:47] this
[2:21:48] is necessary, we hope you
[2:21:49] take
[2:21:50] this into consideration what
[2:21:51] we're asking for tonight.
[2:21:55] >> my name is steven, I'm
[2:21:56] with
[2:21:57] bob junior towing, we eer
[2:21:59] been around a long time here
[2:22:02] and bryan pretty much said
[2:22:03] what's happening with our
[2:22:07] towing companies and there's
[2:22:07] two different entities when
[2:22:08] it
[2:22:12] comes to the towing, we want
[2:22:15] to take care of the people
[2:22:17] within south san francisco as
[2:22:18] well as te people that are
[2:22:20] coming through the city as
[2:22:23] well and when we do that, it
[2:22:26] is not easy for them, what
[2:22:26] you
[2:22:27] were saying, how do you pay
[2:22:29] for it and what do you do
[2:22:29] when
[2:22:31] they come to you and all
[2:22:31] those
[2:22:35] types of things.
[2:22:36] It's a tough situation we
[2:22:36] have
[2:22:37] to go through and every
[2:22:38] scenario is different than
[2:22:38] the
[2:22:41] other one and we take a look
[2:22:43] at each and every individual
[2:22:44] within this city and also
[2:22:46] outside the city when they
[2:22:47] come here.
[2:22:49] And it's a tough decision on
[2:22:51] our end to make that decision
[2:22:52] on how we're going to do this
[2:22:53] with them.
[2:22:56] We want to do it in a really
[2:22:59] -- the expenses of this, it's
[2:23:00] really expensive for them to
[2:23:02] get the car released, go to
[2:23:03] the police department and
[2:23:04] have
[2:23:06] that done as well, go to the
[2:23:08] dmv, by the time they come
[2:23:09] tows, they're pretty upset so
[2:23:11] we want to make it as
[2:23:12] pleasant
[2:23:13] as we can for these folks and
[2:23:15] make it to where they could e
[2:23:16] either afford to get their
[2:23:16] car
[2:23:18] out, if not, then we have to
[2:23:19] look at different options and
[2:23:21] a lot of times the different
[2:23:22] options that they don't come
[2:23:24] to get their cars out, so
[2:23:26] we're stuck with that.
[2:23:27] We have to process the
[2:23:29] vehicles like he was saying
[2:23:32] and it's a low time with the
[2:23:34] junk industry and all those
[2:23:36] types of things and it's
[2:23:38] getting tougher to do
[2:23:38] business
[2:23:40] with that.
[2:23:42] It's pretty much what brian
[2:23:44] was saying, the cost of the
[2:23:45] rents and the insurance and
[2:23:46] stuff like that.
[2:23:47] >> thank you, I appreciate
[2:23:47] that.
[2:23:50] >> thank you.
[2:23:53] >> good evening, my name is
[2:23:55] gino with courtesy tow and it
[2:23:57] pretty much sums it up, what
[2:23:58] my other two colleagues have
[2:24:01] said, insurance costs are
[2:24:02] through the roof, prices of
[2:24:04] newer trucks ask newer
[2:24:06] equipment to stay doing
[2:24:09] business in california, the
[2:24:12] regulations of the def
[2:24:13] regulations, retiring old
[2:24:15] trucks, having to buy new
[2:24:17] equipment, having to invest
[2:24:17] in
[2:24:19] new equipment, driver
[2:24:22] education, safety programs,
[2:24:25] workers compensation, it all
[2:24:28] costs, so we expect cities
[2:24:29] that we do business with to
[2:24:31] kind of stay as competitive
[2:24:31] as
[2:24:32] possible.
[2:24:38] It is unfortunate like my
[2:24:39] colleagues said but the
[2:24:40] insurance per truck per year
[2:24:44] is 25 to 30 thousand dollars
[2:24:45] per truck per year
[2:24:46] televising's not many
[2:24:47] companies souring, it's hard
[2:24:49] to do business in california
[2:24:52] bottom line and it's
[2:24:52] unfortunate to say that but
[2:24:53] we
[2:24:54] have to stay with what's
[2:24:54] working.
[2:24:56] >> thank you.
[2:24:58] >> any questions to the
[2:24:58] operators?
[2:25:01] >> the last time we loked at
[2:25:02] this was 2016?
[2:25:04] >> yes, that is correct.
[2:25:06] >> so, are they willing to
[2:25:07] not
[2:25:11] come back for another 9 -- 8
[2:25:12] years?
[2:25:13] >> I wuld like to make a
[2:25:14] suggestion.
[2:25:16] I don't know if you guys are
[2:25:17] open to this or not, with
[2:25:18] most
[2:25:19] agencies, we renew on an
[2:25:21] annual basis and one of the
[2:25:22] things I would suggest if
[2:25:22] it's
[2:25:23] possible and it's not too
[2:25:25] late, we put some sort of
[2:25:25] cola
[2:25:27] in this for the district
[2:25:28] we're
[2:25:29] in, a cost of living
[2:25:30] increase,
[2:25:32] I think that -- if that was
[2:25:33] the case, there would
[2:25:34] probably
[2:25:35] be no reason we would have to
[2:25:36] come back and see you guys, I
[2:25:40] think it's fair based on a
[2:25:42] market value of what's going
[2:25:43] on and the county we live in.
[2:25:44] If we could do something like
[2:25:44] that, I think it will save
[2:25:45] you
[2:25:48] guys 20 minutes of your time
[2:25:50] fiver years from now we come
[2:25:51] crying, I don't know if
[2:25:51] that's
[2:25:52] a possibility.
[2:25:53] >> any other questions for
[2:25:54] the
[2:25:55] operators?
[2:25:55] >> captain plank?
[2:25:58] >> so, when we have a problem
[2:26:00] on the street and we have
[2:26:02] three operator, we rotate but
[2:26:03] maybe somebody's not
[2:26:03] available
[2:26:04] so you bounce it to somebody
[2:26:06] else o how does that work?
[2:26:10] >> exactly, it's rotation
[2:26:10] one,
[2:26:15] two, three, you should --
[2:26:16] >> you should start with
[2:26:17] courtesy.
[2:26:19] >> yeah, if we get to action
[2:26:21] tow and they're unavailable
[2:26:21] or
[2:26:22] don't have the equipment
[2:26:23] available to do it, we'll
[2:26:25] bounce back to the next one
[2:26:27] and then put them at the top
[2:26:30] for the next rotation to keep
[2:26:31] it balanced.
[2:26:36] >> okay.
[2:26:38] I'm interested, captain
[2:26:38] plank,
[2:26:41] on the police side of it, if
[2:26:42] somebody comes home late
[2:26:45] friday night and they park,
[2:26:47] maybe they're blocking a
[2:26:48] driveway maybe b a little
[2:26:49] bit,
[2:26:50] what kind of efforts do we
[2:26:52] make to not make it an
[2:26:53] automatic tow?
[2:26:56] >> that's a great question.
[2:26:57] Our intention and desire is
[2:26:59] not to tow the vehicle, it
[2:27:02] takes an officer out of s
[2:27:03] frs
[2:27:05] from anywhere from 25-45
[2:27:06] minutes deal witching the
[2:27:08] paperwork and hooking it up.
[2:27:11] We have access to the license
[2:27:13] plate shows where that car is
[2:27:14] registered to, we make every
[2:27:14] attempt --
[2:27:16] >> woe would knock on a door
[2:27:17] if we could?
[2:27:19] >> we would, we would check
[2:27:23] our database if we hve a
[2:27:25] recent phone nmber, we wuld
[2:27:27] try to contact tem in
[2:27:29] multiple different avenues
[2:27:29] until we've exhausted
[2:27:32] everything and then we
[2:27:33] ultimately would have to tow
[2:27:34] the car.
[2:27:36] It has to meet a criteria for
[2:27:38] blocking that driveway too,
[2:27:39] so
[2:27:40] we'll evaluate, if it's
[2:27:42] partially blocking the
[2:27:43] driveway but the person can
[2:27:45] still get out, we're likely
[2:27:48] not going to tow that vehicle.
[2:27:49] >> is that a different fine
[2:27:51] for somebody, is there a fine
[2:27:54] for that for a motorist that
[2:27:55] partially blocks a driveway.
[2:27:57] >> you can receive a ticket
[2:28:00] for blocking a driveway and
[2:28:03] that's a citation.
[2:28:05] The -- if the person, I mean,
[2:28:06] I just imagine after this
[2:28:07] meeting, if I were to go home
[2:28:09] and there was a car blocking
[2:28:11] my driveway and nobody could
[2:28:13] get a hold of it, my desire
[2:28:14] would be for it to be towed
[2:28:17] because I want to go home and
[2:28:20] do my evening stuff and go to
[2:28:21] work tomorrow so that would
[2:28:21] be
[2:28:23] my expectation.
[2:28:25] >> I'm glad we make the front
[2:28:26] end effort.
[2:28:27] >> excellent point.
[2:28:29] Go ahead.
[2:28:32] >> so, the 225 is the 2016
[2:28:35] amount and if we follow the
[2:28:38] average inflation rate of
[2:28:38] 3.26
[2:28:41] per year, that will be $300,
[2:28:43] now, to address what you were
[2:28:44] asking for, that if you can
[2:28:45] do
[2:28:46] it every year, I think that
[2:28:49] will be for the next round,
[2:28:51] right, and it depends also on
[2:28:53] how your bandwidth to work
[2:28:55] with them if that's what they
[2:28:57] wanted to have an annual
[2:28:58] inflationary cst.
[2:29:01] But for now, we're just
[2:29:02] talking about the suggestion
[2:29:05] to increase it from 225 to
[2:29:05] 325
[2:29:08] which is already higher than
[2:29:11] if you compute for the annual
[2:29:14] inflationary rate from 2016
[2:29:14] to
[2:29:17] 2025, it should just be about
[2:29:18] to $300.
[2:29:20] >> we're okay with the 325 at
[2:29:21] the moment.
[2:29:23] >> that's what we're tlking
[2:29:23] about.
[2:29:26] I'm just telling you that
[2:29:27] it's
[2:29:29] $25 more than --
[2:29:31] >> in addition.
[2:29:45] >> [Inaudible].
[2:29:45] >> thank you.
[2:29:50] >> I did do the math, it
[2:29:51] compounded as 28.8%, comes
[2:29:52] out
[2:29:53] to around $300.
[2:29:55] >> captain plank, it says on
[2:29:56] attachment a, if you believe
[2:29:58] you have been unfairly
[2:30:00] channeled, please contact
[2:30:01] south city pd traffic
[2:30:03] division, how many of those
[2:30:04] have you been contacted in
[2:30:05] what manner, I want to know
[2:30:07] about performance and
[2:30:08] accountability too about this.
[2:30:12] >> I'm not aware of any
[2:30:12] formal
[2:30:13] complaints where someone had
[2:30:19] called and said I'm being
[2:30:22] overcharged or the most that
[2:30:25] we would receive is if
[2:30:25] someone
[2:30:27] indicated that maybe there
[2:30:28] was
[2:30:31] a minor scratch or blemish on
[2:30:33] a bumper might claim that
[2:30:35] wasn't there prior to and
[2:30:35] they
[2:30:36] say it was as a result of a
[2:30:40] tow but there's no price
[2:30:41] gouging or delaying so
[2:30:42] there's
[2:30:44] an extra daily storage fee or
[2:30:45] pushing it until after hours
[2:30:47] so then there's an after
[2:30:48] hours
[2:30:49] fee added to it, I'm not
[2:30:50] aware
[2:30:52] of any of those taking place.
[2:30:53] >> toy
[2:30:55] f tows are considered
[2:30:57] vehicle impounds as part of
[2:30:59] what you do or how are those
[2:31:00] classified sm
[2:31:02] >> so, a vehicle impound
[2:31:02] would
[2:31:04] be if someone has a
[2:31:08] restriction on their driver's
[2:31:09] license, sspended, has proof
[2:31:11] of service, is aware they
[2:31:12] shouldn't be driving and
[2:31:14] continues to drive, so, and
[2:31:16] continue tos drive a car
[2:31:21] that's registered to them.
[2:31:23] So, that would be a 30 day
[2:31:23] impound.
[2:31:24] >> okay.
[2:31:24] >> another impocketbacker
[2:31:26] pound would be if someone has
[2:31:28] multiple prior convictions
[2:31:29] for
[2:31:30] driving under the influence
[2:31:31] and there was restrictions
[2:31:32] that said they're not allowed
[2:31:34] to drive or else that would
[2:31:34] be
[2:31:35] an impound.
[2:31:37] The majority of the other
[2:31:38] tows
[2:31:39] we do are storage.
[2:31:40] >> got it.
[2:31:43] >> it doesn't have a set time
[2:31:45] period that it needs to be
[2:31:50] held at the tow yard if the
[2:31:52] owner responds within 30
[2:31:53] minutes from it being towed,
[2:31:55] they can access the car and
[2:31:58] get it out, the impound would
[2:32:00] be a specific situation.
[2:32:02] >> so, that includes dui
[2:32:04] vehicles that are picked up
[2:32:06] during ceck points?
[2:32:08] >> no, it wouldn't.
[2:32:10] That charge, I'm sorry, that
[2:32:11] authority to tow that car
[2:32:13] would be a storage, it would
[2:32:15] be the driver's arrested and
[2:32:17] we aren't able to lever it at
[2:32:19] its current location, we do
[2:32:21] leave the vehicles at their
[2:32:23] resting point if they're
[2:32:25] legally parked, if they're on
[2:32:26] their street, we don't take
[2:32:27] them automatically.
[2:32:31] If it's parked in a tow away
[2:32:33] zone and if we leave it
[2:32:33] there,
[2:32:35] it will be towed later on
[2:32:35] that
[2:32:37] night or if it's parked in a
[2:32:37] a
[2:32:42] road zone or in unsafe area
[2:32:42] or
[2:32:43] an area that's prone to have
[2:32:45] higher vehicle burglaries or
[2:32:47] crime, our community care
[2:32:48] taking authority is to remove
[2:32:49] the vehicle and have it
[2:32:50] stored
[2:32:51] safely until the person can
[2:32:52] get it out.
[2:32:54] So, not all arrests result in
[2:32:55] a tow as well.
[2:32:57] >> understood, thank you for
[2:33:00] that clarification.
[2:33:01] >> I don't mean to belabor
[2:33:02] this, I think there is an
[2:33:05] argument to be made an an
[2:33:06] annual adjustment, maybe a
[2:33:07] cpi
[2:33:09] and we have something
[2:33:09] similar,
[2:33:14] I think every three years we
[2:33:15] look at our scavenger rates
[2:33:17] and we adjust to a percentage
[2:33:19] of the cpi, and if we did
[2:33:21] that, even though it wasn't
[2:33:24] reaching the full expense, it
[2:33:27] would allow us to go a number
[2:33:32] of years, at in time, the
[2:33:35] operators can come and ask
[2:33:36] for
[2:33:36] an increase if things felt
[2:33:37] like they did now, so I think
[2:33:38] we should can consider a
[2:33:39] little quution the cpi, maybe
[2:33:41] a percentage of the annual.
[2:33:43] >> great.
[2:33:44] >> I'm supportive of that
[2:33:47] >> I want to hear from
[2:33:48] everyone.
[2:33:49] >> I'm fine with that.
[2:33:51] >> okay.
[2:33:55] >> do we do 60% on our
[2:33:56] scavenger utility bill?
[2:33:58] >> I did just look at tat
[2:33:58] and
[2:34:00] I would have to get back to
[2:34:00] you.
[2:34:01] That does sound correct.
[2:34:02] >> okay.
[2:34:03] >> councilmember?
[2:34:07] >> so, tonight I was very
[2:34:09] much prepared to vote no but
[2:34:10] I
[2:34:11] think based on sergeant
[2:34:12] plank,
[2:34:13] I'm a lot more comfortable
[2:34:15] voting on this item, the
[2:34:16] reason is I have experienced
[2:34:17] being tow and had I have
[2:34:21] others who have experienced
[2:34:22] being towed in san francisco,
[2:34:23] in san francisco, they're
[2:34:24] looking for every reason to
[2:34:27] tow a vehicle and it's
[2:34:27] disgusting and predatory,
[2:34:28] here
[2:34:29] it looks like we're trying to
[2:34:30] do everything but tow a
[2:34:34] vehicle, only in the most
[2:34:35] extreme circumstances which I
[2:34:37] appreciate and I believe that
[2:34:39] having a cpi adjustment
[2:34:41] annually would make a lot of
[2:34:42] sense, that way we don't have
[2:34:44] to bring it back again.
[2:34:47] >> sure, like brian had said,
[2:34:48] some cities, I don't know
[2:34:50] around here, I do know of
[2:34:51] some
[2:34:52] cities to do that, it's a
[2:34:53] much
[2:34:54] shorter presentation and much
[2:34:55] more of an update, this is
[2:34:57] what the new number is and,
[2:34:59] yeah, I can look into that
[2:34:59] for
[2:34:59] sure.
[2:35:00] >> thank you, captain.
[2:35:03] do we have any public
[2:35:04] comments?
[2:35:05] >> no public comments, mayor.
[2:35:06] >> thank you.
[2:35:09] If not, I am looking for a
[2:35:09] motion.
[2:35:10] >> so moved.
[2:35:11] Er
[2:35:12] >> I'm sorry, mayor, just to
[2:35:13] clarify waoe, doipg a motion
[2:35:15] for the resolution with an
[2:35:18] amendment to the item or --
[2:35:20] >> everyone agrees to the
[2:35:21] amendment, right, so yes.
[2:35:24] >> eel -- I'll look to the
[2:35:24] motion maker?
[2:35:27] >> to the amendment?
[2:35:30] If we really would like to go
[2:35:31] for the 3.26 average
[2:35:32] inflation, the amount of
[2:35:33] money
[2:35:35] from 2016 to 2025 is $300,
[2:35:36] but
[2:35:38] I'll just let it go and next
[2:35:39] time maybe you will come to
[2:35:40] us
[2:35:43] and ask for a different one.
[2:35:45] >> so you're making the
[2:35:45] motion
[2:35:47] just to adopt the proposed
[2:35:50] fees with no automatic
[2:35:50] inflationary adjustment?
[2:35:52] >> and I'll second it but on
[2:35:54] that question, we can come
[2:35:56] back at any time and include
[2:35:56] a
[2:35:58] cpi, a percentage of cpi?
[2:35:59] >> yes.
[2:36:00] >> so for tonight we're
[2:36:01] talking about what staff
[2:36:02] presented?
[2:36:03] >> correct.
[2:36:04] >> okay, clarified, thank
[2:36:05] you,
[2:36:05] all.
[2:36:07] >> perfect, I have a first
[2:36:08] from councilmember nicolas a
[2:36:09] second from vice mayor
[2:36:10] addiego.
[2:36:10] Er
[2:36:11] >> roll call.
[2:36:12] >> MAY xwrorbacker yo
[2:36:12] r mrez
[2:36:13] rez?
[2:36:14] >> yes.
[2:36:15] >> nicolas?Frjts aye.
[2:36:15] >> addiego?
[2:36:16] >> yes.
[2:36:17] >> coleman?
[2:36:18] >> yes.
[2:36:18] >> nagales?
[2:36:19] >> yes.
[2:36:21] >> motion passes, thank you,
[2:36:22] captain plank, thank you,
[2:36:23] everyone, thank you,
[2:36:24] gentlemen.
[2:36:26] >> moving on to item number
[2:36:26] 12
[2:36:28] is a report regarding an
[2:36:32] ordinance amending title 6,
[2:36:35] chapter 6.46 of the south san
[2:36:37] francisco municipal code to
[2:36:39] adopt by reference title 4,
[2:36:41] chapter 4.98 of the san mateo
[2:36:42] county ordinance code and
[2:36:45] repealing in its entirety
[2:36:48] title 6, chapter 6.47, sales
[2:36:50] of flavored tobacco products,
[2:36:52] pharmacy sales of tobacco
[2:36:54] products and sales of
[2:36:56] electronic smoking devices
[2:36:56] prohibited.
[2:36:58] Item 12a is the ordinance.
[2:37:00] >> so you're really going to
[2:37:02] kick it off the park here,
[2:37:02] MS.
[2:37:04] Fernandez as your last
[2:37:04] presentation.
[2:37:05] >> this is my parting gift to
[2:37:08] all of you.
[2:37:10] Good evening, councilmembers,
[2:37:11] christina fernandez, your
[2:37:12] deputy city manager, I'm here
[2:37:14] tonight to provide an update
[2:37:17] and seek your approval for
[2:37:18] our
[2:37:19] flavored tobacco regulations
[2:37:20] such that they cmply with
[2:37:23] recent changes to state law.
[2:37:26] With me tonight, I have our
[2:37:29] team, lieutenant sair wyatt,
[2:37:32] shawn occur, from the
[2:37:35] tobacco's county education
[2:37:37] team, myra daoe yez ramirez
[2:37:41] and director of public works,
[2:37:42] bob, so I want to thank them
[2:37:44] for their efforts during this
[2:37:45] process.
[2:37:46] So again we're seking
[2:37:49] council's approval to amend
[2:37:49] the tobacco retailer permit
[2:37:51] and adopt the county's
[2:37:52] ordinance by reference.
[2:37:55] I'm also going to update you
[2:37:57] on our retailer outreach and
[2:37:58] education efforts and then
[2:38:00] provide you with next steps
[2:38:01] on
[2:38:03] tobacco education and
[2:38:03] engagement efforts.
[2:38:05] So, one of the primary
[2:38:05] reasons
[2:38:07] for the city's efforts around
[2:38:09] tobacco is due to the rise of
[2:38:13] vaping by mouther, there's 15
[2:38:15] thousand flavors online, 93%
[2:38:17] of youth who started vaping
[2:38:21] start witched a flavored
[2:38:22] product, 96% of high school
[2:38:23] students who vape use flavor
[2:38:27] and is 9% of san mateo
[2:38:29] high-schoolers vape.
[2:38:29] Vaping requires nicotine salt
[2:38:31] which is highly concentrated
[2:38:33] and bad for developing
[2:38:33] brains,
[2:38:36] it can cause anxiety and many
[2:38:39] other detrimental health
[2:38:40] effects.
[2:38:42] So just a little background
[2:38:42] on
[2:38:45] past actions, back in 2008,
[2:38:48] the city adopted the county's
[2:38:49] tobacco retailer permit
[2:38:51] ordinance by reference and
[2:38:53] that essentially said that we
[2:38:55] were requiring all tobacco
[2:38:58] retailers to maintain a valid
[2:39:00] tobacco retailer permit and
[2:39:02] that we would have the
[2:39:03] county's environmental health
[2:39:05] division enforce those
[2:39:05] permits.
[2:39:08] In 2012, we then passed an
[2:39:10] ordinance prohibiting new
[2:39:12] significant tobacco retailers
[2:39:14] and a significant retailer
[2:39:14] has
[2:39:17] 20% or more of their floor
[2:39:19] area space and/or 50% or more
[2:39:21] of their completed sales
[2:39:23] transactions including
[2:39:24] tobacco
[2:39:27] products or paraphernalia,
[2:39:30] back in no. 2019 when I came
[2:39:30] on board, there was an
[2:39:33] interest on behalf of council
[2:39:36] to pursue a flavored tobacco
[2:39:37] banser we pursued that, it
[2:39:40] bans the sale of flavored
[2:39:42] tobacco in all businesses
[2:39:43] except for all adult retail
[2:39:45] and he iser they only allow
[2:39:45] 21
[2:39:47] and over on their premises
[2:39:47] and
[2:39:49] that was effect tier JANUARY
[2:39:52] 1, 2020.
[2:39:54] So, there have been some
[2:39:56] recent changes to state law
[2:39:58] which would necessitate these
[2:40:01] updates to our ordinance.
[2:40:04] In 2022, voters upheld senate
[2:40:07] bill 793 which prohibited e
[2:40:09] cigarette and is apes and
[2:40:13] other tobacco items listed on
[2:40:16] the screen, methane
[2:40:18] cigarettes, flavored blunt
[2:40:20] wraps, loose leaf roll your
[2:40:22] own tobacco, rolling papers,
[2:40:25] flavored, and tobacco product
[2:40:27] flavor enhances, it did
[2:40:28] exempt
[2:40:29] flavored premium sig gars
[2:40:30] with
[2:40:31] the wolesale price of $12 or
[2:40:34] more and it also exempted
[2:40:37] flavored loose leaf, pipe
[2:40:40] tobacco and flavored sheik ka
[2:40:42] hookah tobacco which MAY only
[2:40:46] be sold in adult only
[2:40:49] retailers.
[2:40:53] Another couple recent bill,
[2:40:56] ab3218 and sb1230, ab3218
[2:40:58] creates an unflavored tobacco
[2:41:01] list and that list is
[2:41:01] supposed
[2:41:03] to be released by the
[2:41:03] attorney
[2:41:05] general by the the end of the
[2:41:06] this year, products not on
[2:41:07] this list would be considered
[2:41:10] a flavored product.
[2:41:14] Sb1230 or the stop act
[2:41:15] complements 3218 such that it
[2:41:19] allows the state to seize
[2:41:20] flavored tobacco products not
[2:41:22] on that list and it imposes
[2:41:24] civil penalties on retailers
[2:41:28] and wholesalers.
[2:41:30] So, in 2023, the city receive
[2:41:33] add a let frer the county
[2:41:35] saying, listen, thankers for
[2:41:37] adopting the 2019 flavored
[2:41:39] tobacco ban because our
[2:41:40] ordinance was modeled on
[2:41:41] that,
[2:41:43] however, we did make
[2:41:43] exceptionbacker exemptions
[2:41:44] such that all the other
[2:41:45] cities
[2:41:48] throughout the county also
[2:41:49] made exemptions so there's a
[2:41:50] patch work of ordinances out
[2:41:51] there.
[2:41:54] In order to reduce logistical
[2:41:56] challenges with enforcing
[2:41:58] various city ordinances
[2:41:58] around
[2:42:00] tobacco, the county said
[2:42:00] we're
[2:42:03] going adopt a new tobacco
[2:42:04] retailer ordinance and have
[2:42:06] stronger enforcement, have
[2:42:06] retail restriction and is
[2:42:08] there will be proximity
[2:42:11] restrictions for new retail
[2:42:12] businesses and they really
[2:42:13] encouraged cities to adopt
[2:42:15] this so there's a more
[2:42:17] streamlined approach to
[2:42:17] enforcement and
[2:42:18] administration
[2:42:21] of the retailer program.
[2:42:25] So, the new county tobacco
[2:42:26] ordinance requirements, it
[2:42:28] does clean up some of the
[2:42:30] language such tat it aligns
[2:42:32] with sate law, so tobacco
[2:42:34] prugt is then defined to
[2:42:35] include synthetic nicotine
[2:42:37] which in the past it did not
[2:42:39] and it also expands the
[2:42:40] definition of electronic
[2:42:42] smoking device to include
[2:42:45] non-nicotine products.
[2:42:47] It also has issues around
[2:42:48] proximity of where new
[2:42:50] retailers could be located
[2:42:53] such that it prohibits new
[2:42:55] tobacco permit for any
[2:42:56] location within a thousand
[2:42:58] feet of the youth populated
[2:43:02] area that could include
[2:43:05] schools, public rec centers,
[2:43:07] libraries, child care
[2:43:08] facilities, preschools, those
[2:43:10] are all considered youth
[2:43:11] populated areas.
[2:43:13] It also prohibits the issue
[2:43:13] of
[2:43:16] new permits with locations
[2:43:22] within 500 feet within an
[2:43:23] existing tobacco retailer,
[2:43:24] posting of retailers unless
[2:43:26] they have a permit and it
[2:43:27] updates such that it
[2:43:29] streamlines with new state
[2:43:31] laws by increasing the age of
[2:43:35] 21 years to purchase tobacco
[2:43:36] products.
[2:43:37] So what does this mean for
[2:43:40] existing retailers?
[2:43:42] Upon discussions with county
[2:43:45] staff, we understand that if
[2:43:47] retailers meet one of these
[2:43:48] three requirements, they will
[2:43:49] be designated as a
[2:43:50] preexisting
[2:43:53] business and not subject to
[2:43:54] new proximity requirements.
[2:43:56] So, if a retailer previously
[2:43:59] held a a tobacco permit under
[2:44:01] the county's environmental
[2:44:02] health services, if they're
[2:44:03] register witched the state's
[2:44:05] department of tax and fee
[2:44:07] administration as a tobacco
[2:44:09] retailer or if they hold a
[2:44:10] south city business license
[2:44:12] and is listed aa tobacco
[2:44:14] retailer, then they would be
[2:44:15] considered a preexisting
[2:44:16] business and not have to get
[2:44:16] a
[2:44:19] new permit and be subject to
[2:44:21] the thousand feet and the 500
[2:44:26] feet requirements.
[2:44:28] So, the new county ordinance
[2:44:31] also mandates fines for any
[2:44:32] violations, it increases the
[2:44:34] fines up to $500 for the
[2:44:34] first
[2:44:36] violation and up a to
[2:44:36] a
[2:44:38] thousand for all subsequent
[2:44:39] violation, it requires permit
[2:44:40] suspension if a a business is
[2:44:43] found to have sold to someone
[2:44:45] under 21 and it requires
[2:44:47] on-site inspections by the
[2:44:48] county's environmental health
[2:44:49] services department at least
[2:44:52] twice a year.
[2:44:54] So, some retailer and
[2:44:55] community engagement, I
[2:44:55] really
[2:44:58] want to thank pd for their
[2:44:59] assistance here.
[2:45:00] We mailed out business
[2:45:01] letters
[2:45:03] to approximately 100
[2:45:04] businesses who we thought
[2:45:05] might be affected.
[2:45:09] We also did three information
[2:45:10] sessions, two in person and
[2:45:14] one virtual and we also did
[2:45:15] an
[2:45:16] online tobacco retailer
[2:45:18] survey, we targeted that with
[2:45:19] the ecd distribution list we
[2:45:22] have online and we also did
[2:45:23] some social media posts
[2:45:24] around
[2:45:25] the survey encouraging folks
[2:45:27] to take it.
[2:45:30] And we also did in person
[2:45:31] retailer visits such that we
[2:45:33] visited about half of the
[2:45:34] retailers that we have on
[2:45:35] file
[2:45:38] and we went and we spoke with
[2:45:40] businesses and informed them
[2:45:43] of the upcoming changes and
[2:45:44] let them know how this could
[2:45:46] potentially affect their
[2:45:47] business and answered any
[2:45:49] questions they MAY have,
[2:45:50] overall most of the
[2:45:50] businesses
[2:45:54] said we haven't sold flavored
[2:45:56] tobacco in four or five years.
[2:45:57] There were questions around
[2:45:59] sofm the other products such
[2:46:02] as like flavored cigars, I
[2:46:03] guess folks had questions
[2:46:04] about that.
[2:46:06] And so, yeah, overall, folks
[2:46:07] didn't seem to really have
[2:46:09] questions and they all seemed
[2:46:10] to indicate they were
[2:46:14] compliant with existing state
[2:46:14] law.
[2:46:17] So, for the next steps, you
[2:46:21] know, currently chapter 20 of
[2:46:23] our money code [Inaudible]
[2:46:26] Chapter 20 is referenced in
[2:46:27] chapter 6.47 which will be
[2:46:28] repealed if this is approved
[2:46:30] tonight, just to ensure
[2:46:32] consistency the throughout
[2:46:32] our
[2:46:35] municipal code, staff will be
[2:46:37] bringing chapter 4.20 to the
[2:46:38] planning tuition for their
[2:46:39] review and back the city
[2:46:40] council for their review and
[2:46:41] approval.
[2:46:42] That being said, separate and
[2:46:44] apart from that, I this
[2:46:45] ordinance is approved
[2:46:46] tonight,
[2:46:47] we would go for a second
[2:46:49] reading on APRIL 9 and this
[2:46:50] would then be effective 30
[2:46:52] days from that reading so
[2:46:52] we'd
[2:46:55] think about MAY 7.
[2:46:57] And so with that, the team
[2:46:58] and
[2:46:59] I are here, happy to answer
[2:47:01] any questions you MAY have.
[2:47:02] >> thank you, christina, I
[2:47:06] appreciate the presentation.
[2:47:09] Questions?
[2:47:11] >> I was going to say the
[2:47:12] presentation was so complete
[2:47:15] and prfect that I have no
[2:47:16] questions.
[2:47:17] Great finish.
[2:47:19] >> I have just one or two
[2:47:20] questions, I think it's
[2:47:21] appropriate the first thing
[2:47:23] that I passed with your help
[2:47:25] happens to be the last thing
[2:47:29] you're presenting here.
[2:47:30] At the time, we had a
[2:47:33] discussion back in 219 about
[2:47:35] the businesses that will be
[2:47:36] exempt.
[2:47:37] At the time, there were two,
[2:47:38] now there's one from my
[2:47:39] reading o the staff report,
[2:47:40] correct?
[2:47:40] >> that's correct.
[2:47:42] >> they would still be able
[2:47:42] to
[2:47:47] operate based upon the -- I
[2:47:49] guess the criteria,
[2:47:50] grandfathered in.
[2:47:51] Thefrjt would still be able
[2:47:51] to
[2:47:52] operate but anything that
[2:47:52] they
[2:47:54] had that MAY be flavored,
[2:47:58] there are some businesses
[2:47:58] that
[2:48:00] are maybe not compliant with
[2:48:01] our existing ordinance,
[2:48:01] right,
[2:48:03] so it's maybe time to kind of
[2:48:04] do some education and some
[2:48:06] outreach just to make sure
[2:48:08] they're above board with the
[2:48:09] current ordinance but I will
[2:48:11] say that that business would
[2:48:13] not hen be able to sell
[2:48:14] flavored tobacco, they can
[2:48:17] stay in business and sell
[2:48:18] unflavored tobacco but they
[2:48:19] could not sell flavored
[2:48:20] tobacco.
[2:48:22] >> that was kind of the
[2:48:22] conversation that the
[2:48:23] previous
[2:48:24] council had in terms of
[2:48:26] making
[2:48:27] sure that we are not damage
[2:48:29] thing or hurting their
[2:48:30] business in a sense because
[2:48:33] that was a big topic amongst
[2:48:33] us.
[2:48:36] And so I kind of wanted
[2:48:37] clarification on there's like
[2:48:39] signage sometimes I see that
[2:48:42] sells -- that says flavored
[2:48:42] tobacco being sold.
[2:48:45] Is that now being restricted
[2:48:50] in terms of advertisement?
[2:48:51] I'm trying to understand how
[2:48:51] that --
[2:48:52] >> yeah, so, as I understand
[2:48:54] the new county ordinance,
[2:48:57] unless you have a valid
[2:48:58] tobacco retailer permit, you
[2:49:00] would not be able to
[2:49:00] advertise
[2:49:02] tobacco products.
[2:49:04] >> so, if you had a valid
[2:49:07] license to sell flavored
[2:49:09] tobacco, you are able to have
[2:49:10] that signage?
[2:49:12] >> so, flavored tobacco is
[2:49:12] not
[2:49:15] going to be allowed to be
[2:49:15] sold
[2:49:17] anywhere, so I think that if
[2:49:20] they wanted to advertise like
[2:49:22] cigarettes, they could, and
[2:49:24] honestly if they want to
[2:49:26] advertise flavored tobacco,
[2:49:27] they probably could but I
[2:49:29] don't see if they would if
[2:49:31] they couldn't sell it but I
[2:49:33] guess technically they could.
[2:49:34] I don't know if you have
[2:49:36] comments on that.
[2:49:38] >> okay, I see those signage
[2:49:40] and I always felt like that
[2:49:41] should be restricted, okay.
[2:49:42] >> yeah.
[2:49:43] >> and then could we talk
[2:49:44] about the county
[2:49:46] implementation, so now we are
[2:49:49] going from our own pd in
[2:49:49] terms
[2:49:50] of education and enforcement
[2:49:59] now to the county.
[2:50:00] >> it's twofold t the city
[2:50:01] can
[2:50:02] still enforce, we are looking
[2:50:04] to to the county to do those
[2:50:06] site inspections twice a year
[2:50:08] and to enforce where
[2:50:10] appropriate but definitely I
[2:50:12] know pd will definitely have
[2:50:12] a
[2:50:14] hand in code enforcement and
[2:50:15] code enforcement will also
[2:50:17] have a hand in this th
[2:50:17] and
[2:50:19] once we adopt this, we're
[2:50:21] looking at pushing out
[2:50:22] education first.
[2:50:25] I know lieutenant sair dotty
[2:50:27] was successful in obtaining
[2:50:29] state department of jstice
[2:50:32] tobacco grant for money to do
[2:50:32] outreach and education.
[2:50:34] I don't know, lieutenant, if
[2:50:35] you want to make a comment
[2:50:36] here.
[2:50:38] >> please, come on up.
[2:50:40] >> good ever wantoning, yes,
[2:50:42] the department of justice
[2:50:44] tobacco grant we received,
[2:50:45] our
[2:50:49] primary goal is to provide
[2:50:51] education since the
[2:50:52] implementation of the grant,
[2:50:53] we have gone out to the
[2:50:54] businesses, provided
[2:50:54] pamphlets
[2:50:57] and information on our
[2:50:57] current
[2:50:59] muni code on tobacco
[2:51:00] products,
[2:51:02] checked t see that they were
[2:51:05] in guidelines with our muni
[2:51:08] code, so should we adopt the
[2:51:10] new muni code, we would go
[2:51:10] out
[2:51:13] and implement the new muni
[2:51:14] code, povide eucation, we
[2:51:16] would not be enforcing it at
[2:51:17] this time and just ensure
[2:51:18] that
[2:51:19] all the businesses understand
[2:51:22] that the muni code, so our
[2:51:25] primary action is education
[2:51:26] before enforcement.
[2:51:27] >> now I've seen the
[2:51:28] education
[2:51:30] process when we implemented
[2:51:30] this.
[2:51:32] I started seeing the flavored
[2:51:34] tobacco getting taken away
[2:51:36] like for like the wall fronds
[2:51:42] or the 7th [Hr-e/]-elevens
[2:51:42] where they were primarily
[2:51:43] being sold, I was seeing
[2:51:43] those
[2:51:44] taken out.
[2:51:46] The last question is the
[2:51:48] hookah tobacco, the ordinance
[2:51:50] says if that's still
[2:51:50] permitted
[2:51:55] if a business that's I guess
[2:51:58] allowed 21 -- 21 or older on
[2:51:59] the premise, if you're a
[2:52:02] business that has that, you
[2:52:05] can still continue as long as
[2:52:07] an adult -- I don't want to
[2:52:09] use your terminology in terms
[2:52:10] of 21 and ogler.
[2:52:11] >> we're adopt thing county's
[2:52:12] ordinance which is stricter
[2:52:14] than the state law such that
[2:52:16] hookah would not be allowed.
[2:52:17] >> okay.
[2:52:18] alright.
[2:52:19] That's all I have, thank you.
[2:52:23] >> great, thank you.
[2:52:25] >> so, I do have a question,
[2:52:27] well, I I do sup or the the
[2:52:29] ordinance but my question is
[2:52:31] flavored tobacco has been
[2:52:33] banned if for sometime now
[2:52:35] statewide and yt when I go
[2:52:38] out, there I see flavored
[2:52:39] tobacco everywhere.
[2:52:43] And so my question is, is it
[2:52:45] an isue of enforcement, how
[2:52:50] come it's still so pervasive
[2:52:51] outside?
[2:52:56] >> yeah, I mean, I don't know
[2:52:56] ,
[2:52:59] I mean I would say that maybe
[2:53:01] it's enforcement, you know,
[2:53:02] maybe it's, yeah, wi eel pull
[2:53:07] it off the shelf and then a a
[2:53:09] month a a so and put it back
[2:53:10] up, that kind of thing, but I
[2:53:10] can't really speak to why
[2:53:12] it's
[2:53:12] pervasive.
[2:53:14] I would assume it is probably
[2:53:15] just enforcement and just
[2:53:18] being consistent in
[2:53:19] enforcement
[2:53:20] .
[2:53:22] >> and once we provide the
[2:53:24] education to the retailers,
[2:53:24] we
[2:53:26] can also do more town halls
[2:53:27] and invite retailers to
[2:53:29] educate them on the new muni
[2:53:31] code and the laws.
[2:53:33] We would provide a time for
[2:53:35] them to understand it, make
[2:53:35] sure everyone is in
[2:53:36] accordance
[2:53:41] with it and then we can do
[2:53:41] impact inspections similar to
[2:53:43] what we do with our abc grant
[2:53:45] where we go out, we make sure
[2:53:46] they're following all of the
[2:53:48] laws that they have to do
[2:53:49] with
[2:53:51] their license with abc, so we
[2:53:52] could d inspections at these
[2:53:53] retailers to make sure
[2:53:54] they're
[2:53:56] following the guidelines for
[2:53:57] the tobacco products, so that
[2:53:59] is an option we would be able
[2:54:01] to have with that.
[2:54:02] >> sure, thank you.
[2:54:04] >> what's the timeline that
[2:54:07] you allow tem to -- while
[2:54:07] the
[2:54:09] law implements that phase-in,
[2:54:10] what -- is it varying or do
[2:54:12] you work with each one, what
[2:54:14] does it look like?
[2:54:17] >> obviously we don't want to
[2:54:18] go --
[2:54:19] >> tat's exactly what I'm
[2:54:20] going to.
[2:54:22] >> education has always been
[2:54:27] at the forefront of all of
[2:54:27] our
[2:54:29] grants, with abc as well, so
[2:54:30] we -- the easiest way is to
[2:54:33] kind of explain our abc
[2:54:33] grant,
[2:54:35] for instance we do these
[2:54:35] impact inspections and we
[2:54:36] will
[2:54:39] go out to or retailers, our
[2:54:41] licensees two or three time
[2:54:44] sos the first time we'll go
[2:54:46] over, make sure they're
[2:54:48] following all of the
[2:54:49] regulations for their
[2:54:50] license,
[2:54:51] make sure if they need to
[2:54:53] update anything websinger ear
[2:54:54] write things down, give them
[2:54:56] some pamphlet and is go out
[2:54:57] maybe a month later, check,
[2:54:59] hey, did you fix these things
[2:55:00] we talked about, if they
[2:55:01] still
[2:55:02] need to make some
[2:55:03] corrections,
[2:55:04] we'll write them town and
[2:55:04] then
[2:55:06] come out maybe a couple of
[2:55:07] months later and then if
[2:55:09] they're still not doing it,
[2:55:12] maybe we'll start giving a
[2:55:16] citation or we'll contact abc
[2:55:17] to come out and do it that
[2:55:18] way
[2:55:20] so we'll give them plenty of
[2:55:22] opportunities to correct the
[2:55:24] behavior because they are
[2:55:25] businesses in our city so we
[2:55:27] do want to work with them.
[2:55:27] >> okay.
[2:55:29] Thank you.
[2:55:31] Anyone else, questions?
[2:55:34] I just wanted to know,
[2:55:36] christina, you sent letters
[2:55:38] for this community meeting to
[2:55:39] 100 businesses, how many of
[2:55:41] those were tobacco retailers
[2:55:42] approximately?
[2:55:44] >> well, we only have -- so,
[2:55:47] on the book, we have about 45
[2:55:49] tobacco retailers so we sent
[2:55:52] it to the 45 but tlen to
[2:55:54] anyone else who MAY be sort
[2:55:55] of
[2:55:55] associated with it.
[2:55:58] >> but I wanted to highlight
[2:56:00] that no tobacco retailers
[2:56:01] attended any of the three
[2:56:01] meetings.
[2:56:03] >> we had cmmunity members
[2:56:05] come and speak about tobacco
[2:56:08] and how they weren't fans of
[2:56:10] tobacco but we did not have
[2:56:11] any retailers, we had a
[2:56:12] little
[2:56:13] more luck with the surveys
[2:56:14] but
[2:56:15] the surveys indicate that
[2:56:15] most
[2:56:18] folks are compliant with the
[2:56:19] lasers already.
[2:56:20] >> alright.
[2:56:22] Any other questions or
[2:56:22] comments?
[2:56:24] If not, do we have public
[2:56:25] comments?
[2:56:26] >> we do not, mayor.
[2:56:27] >> alright.
[2:56:30] >> before you make -- ask for
[2:56:32] a motion, just one procedural
[2:56:34] point, state law is a little
[2:56:36] bit different when adopting
[2:56:37] the code of another agency by
[2:56:40] reference which is what we're
[2:56:41] doing tonight, you'll still
[2:56:42] introduce it.
[2:56:43] When it comes back, the
[2:56:45] ordinance will not be on
[2:56:46] consent for the second
[2:56:47] reading
[2:56:48] we're required to hold a
[2:56:51] public hearing, so you'll
[2:56:52] still -- there will still be
[2:56:53] two meetings for the
[2:56:54] adoption,
[2:56:55] rather than it appearing on
[2:56:56] consent, it will be a public
[2:56:58] hearing at the second reading.
[2:56:59] >> thank you for that
[2:57:00] clarification.
[2:57:02] With that, do I have a motion?
[2:57:03] >> so moved, MR. Mayor.
[2:57:04] >> I'll second.
[2:57:05] >> I have a first and a
[2:57:06] second, can I have a roll
[2:57:07] call?
[2:57:09] >> vice mayor addiego,
[2:57:10] councilmember nagales?
[2:57:12] >> yes.
[2:57:12] >> mayor flores?
[2:57:14] >> yes.
[2:57:15] >> councilmember nicolas?
[2:57:18] >> yes.
[2:57:20] >> councilmember [Inaudible]
[2:57:21] >> aye.
[2:57:22] >> thank you, I appreciate
[2:57:22] everyone staying.
[2:57:23] Er
[2:57:26] >> moving on to items from
[2:57:28] council, committee reports
[2:57:29] and
[2:57:30] announcements, item 13 is
[2:57:31] consider sending letters of
[2:57:33] support for various
[2:57:35] legislative items.
[2:57:36] >> alright.
[2:57:37] Sharon?
[2:57:39] >> sure, I would be happy to
[2:57:40] speak to this.
[2:57:44] we've provided you with fiver
[2:57:46] -- five letters of support,
[2:57:50] there were deadlines we need
[2:57:52] today meet, a couple of these
[2:57:53] letters have been spent.
[2:57:53] Our practice has been to copy
[2:57:56] council or seek your support,
[2:57:57] so I've got five of them
[2:57:58] here,
[2:58:02] the frst one is regarding
[2:58:05] congressionally directed
[2:58:09] spending for samtrans and
[2:58:09] this
[2:58:11] is to different legislators,
[2:58:14] then we have one here for --
[2:58:15] three different legislators
[2:58:17] on
[2:58:20] that one, oneshorline
[2:58:23] resilience plan support as
[2:58:29] well as licensing exemption
[2:58:32] and one for weta, and I would
[2:58:35] just add, I'm very supportive
[2:58:36] of doing these letters in
[2:58:37] that
[2:58:39] we often ask these agencies
[2:58:39] to
[2:58:41] write up support letters when
[2:58:43] we're submitting a grant so
[2:58:44] it's reciprocal that we
[2:58:45] support other agencies when
[2:58:47] they're seeking funding so we
[2:58:48] want to mke sure council is
[2:58:50] aware of these letters and
[2:58:52] doesn't have any issues with
[2:58:54] us issuing these?
[2:58:56] >> any comments on these?
[2:58:58] >> for these letters?
[2:58:58] Okay.
[2:59:01] I did want to note there are
[2:59:03] other current bills going
[2:59:04] through committee, initial
[2:59:05] committee in the state
[2:59:06] legislature.
[2:59:11] One of them is assembly bill
[2:59:18] 6530 -- 650 from dianne
[2:59:18] papin
[2:59:19] in relation to the housing
[2:59:22] element, I don't know if if
[2:59:23] staff is willing to share on
[2:59:25] that so we can give direction
[2:59:26] for support.
[2:59:30] Nell, you're in the back.
[2:59:31] >> MR. Mayor, are you asking
[2:59:32] for support for that bill
[2:59:32] right now?
[2:59:33] .
[2:59:36] Inger correct, yes.
[2:59:37] >> christina's probably
[2:59:37] better
[2:59:41] suited to answer this.
[2:59:42] >> I apologize, bring her
[2:59:43] back.
[2:59:45] >> it's a spot bill and so we
[2:59:46] don't have legislate iever
[2:59:50] language yet to respond to or
[2:59:51] support.
[2:59:52] We went in a little bit of a
[2:59:53] circle here because we could
[2:59:55] not find the legislation, I
[2:59:57] guess this is why, when it
[2:59:58] appears, we can bring it your
[3:00:00] way.
[3:00:02] >> yeah, so, to be able to
[3:00:05] support at the level of
[3:00:07] providing additional runway,
[3:00:08] additional space for cities
[3:00:08] to
[3:00:10] be able to be compliant and
[3:00:12] be
[3:00:13] able to provide compliance
[3:00:15] with the housing element
[3:00:18] should they not be able to at
[3:00:19] that level too.
[3:00:21] In addition, since it is
[3:00:23] agendized as a letter of
[3:00:24] support, colleagues, some of
[3:00:27] you might be hearing or
[3:00:27] seeing
[3:00:30] our second state senator
[3:00:31] scott
[3:00:35] wiener is supporting a
[3:00:35] regional transportation
[3:00:37] measure that potentially
[3:00:37] could
[3:00:38] support and bring in support
[3:00:42] for san mateo county to
[3:00:44] support caltrain as well as
[3:00:45] to
[3:00:47] support bart.
[3:00:50] at this level, I wouldn't be
[3:00:53] able to, sky, bring in
[3:00:53] support
[3:00:55] because one of our
[3:00:55] councilmembers is connected
[3:00:56] to
[3:00:57] that, is that correct, if I
[3:00:57] wanted to --
[3:00:59] >> he would just rcuse
[3:01:00] himself.
[3:01:01] >> okay, well, we're looking
[3:01:03] for and when I was talking to
[3:01:05] the city manager, many of
[3:01:07] these agencies are looking to
[3:01:10] not be part of this regional
[3:01:11] transportation measure and
[3:01:12] only three counties instead
[3:01:13] of
[3:01:14] four counties, however, the
[3:01:18] bill has now been designed
[3:01:18] for
[3:01:20] counties or cities to be able
[3:01:22] to opt in.
[3:01:24] If san mateo county wants to
[3:01:26] opt in to b able to
[3:01:26] participate.
[3:01:28] I think as a city that
[3:01:29] heavily
[3:01:31] is supported by caltrain as
[3:01:33] well as -- or has the
[3:01:34] influence of caltrain and
[3:01:34] bart.
[3:01:36] This is important for us.
[3:01:38] This is a measure that
[3:01:40] potentially would be able to
[3:01:44] support a path to potentially
[3:01:46] relieve the debt that
[3:01:47] caltrain
[3:01:48] currently has and bart
[3:01:51] currently has.
[3:01:52] There's mixed opportunities
[3:01:52] right now.
[3:01:55] I think where we stand is I
[3:01:57] believe samtrans board will
[3:01:57] be
[3:01:59] taking a position of I, a
[3:02:01] position on this ballot
[3:02:04] measure or potential ballot
[3:02:05] measure, a senate bill right
[3:02:07] now next week and I wanted to
[3:02:09] see if there's interest so
[3:02:11] that our city manager could
[3:02:13] express not a position
[3:02:14] particular but just to say,
[3:02:19] hey, tink about thens --
[3:02:23] city ins north county, daly
[3:02:24] city, south san francisco
[3:02:24] that
[3:02:25] we have caltrain and bart, we
[3:02:27] have to be at the table, we
[3:02:28] can't completely be excluded
[3:02:30] aout of a potential funding
[3:02:32] mechanism that will support
[3:02:34] contra costa, al la immediate
[3:02:35] da and san francisco and not
[3:02:38] be at the table when these
[3:02:39] discussions are potentially
[3:02:41] funding support would come
[3:02:42] through.
[3:02:45] That is potentially what this
[3:02:45] regional transportation
[3:02:49] measure would look like right
[3:02:49] now.
[3:02:50] Any questions or any
[3:02:53] additions
[3:02:54] from my colleagues, jump in.
[3:02:57] >> so, I believe we have --
[3:02:58] there's no language for ab650
[3:03:01] that we should have a more in
[3:03:02] depth discussion on ab650
[3:03:05] because I know that it can go
[3:03:07] in various directions.
[3:03:09] For sb63, I think it's
[3:03:11] important we continue to
[3:03:13] collaborate with our regional
[3:03:16] partners for some sort of
[3:03:16] deal
[3:03:18] that makes sense for san
[3:03:18] mateo
[3:03:19] county but ensures we are
[3:03:20] getting funding and
[3:03:24] contributing to the funding
[3:03:26] that would save caltrain and
[3:03:29] bart from the fiscal cliff
[3:03:31] that they are facing because
[3:03:34] we are potentially going to
[3:03:38] see massive, massive cuts o
[3:03:43] the entire system of bart and
[3:03:47] I think it needs to be known
[3:03:49] that 43% of transit riders
[3:03:49] who
[3:03:51] start in san mateo county end
[3:03:56] up outside of san mateo
[3:03:56] county.
[3:03:57] That is a fakts.
[3:03:58] We can't just have -- and I
[3:04:00] know this is a great council
[3:04:04] and we understand this but
[3:04:05] with the county as an
[3:04:06] audience, we have to
[3:04:09] understand that public
[3:04:09] transit
[3:04:11] does not start and stop in
[3:04:11] san
[3:04:12] mateo, it is regional.
[3:04:16] We need to be part of the
[3:04:18] solution that saves public
[3:04:19] transit in the region but
[3:04:20] also
[3:04:21] ensures that it is the most
[3:04:23] seamless experience possible.
[3:04:27] There are some south in the
[3:04:30] county who believe that only
[3:04:31] caltrain is worth saving.
[3:04:33] There are twice as many
[3:04:33] riders
[3:04:35] on bart than there are
[3:04:37] caltrain in san mateo county.
[3:04:39] And there are many people who
[3:04:41] take caltrain and then
[3:04:41] connect
[3:04:43] to bart to get to their place
[3:04:47] of work or connect to other
[3:04:49] areas and so we need to
[3:04:52] strongly express that we want
[3:04:54] to continue san mateo
[3:04:55] county's
[3:04:56] collaboration in this transit
[3:04:56] measure.
[3:05:00] I think right now we are at a
[3:05:01] cross roads where we could be
[3:05:02] included or we could not be
[3:05:07] include -- included and the
[3:05:09] recent involvement that some
[3:05:11] of our county's leaders have
[3:05:14] had with mtc and with bart
[3:05:14] has
[3:05:15] been very antagonistic that
[3:05:17] has led us to where we are
[3:05:19] today and it's a shame but
[3:05:22] right now it is a time for
[3:05:22] leadership and collaboration
[3:05:24] and we have to work on a deal
[3:05:25] that makes sense that ensure
[3:05:27] that is our public transit
[3:05:28] agencies are well funded for
[3:05:31] the people of san mateo
[3:05:33] county.
[3:05:35] So I would support a more in
[3:05:36] depth discussion on that as
[3:05:36] well.
[3:05:37] Thank you.
[3:05:39] >> anyone else?
[3:05:43] >> I couldn't say it any
[3:05:44] better, councilmember coal
[3:05:45] hanh and I think that is
[3:05:47] classic south county versus
[3:05:48] north county, not an
[3:05:50] appreciation for what we're
[3:05:51] all about and what we bring
[3:05:52] to
[3:05:53] the table.
[3:05:59] >> so, I'm not impinging --
[3:06:00] jumping into this
[3:06:01] conversation, there was
[3:06:02] another bill that I was
[3:06:03] talking about and it has to
[3:06:04] do
[3:06:07] with public comment and it
[3:06:08] would basically require that
[3:06:10] for every city council
[3:06:10] meeting
[3:06:13] that you would have to allow
[3:06:15] for online participation and
[3:06:17] for that person to be allowed
[3:06:19] for public comment.
[3:06:23] Am I pretty much -- and we
[3:06:24] experienced wat happened and
[3:06:26] I had a conversation with
[3:06:29] nick
[3:06:33] nicolo, our lobbyist up in
[3:06:34] sacramento, and he was
[3:06:38] interested in what happened,
[3:06:39] I
[3:06:41] requested to the city manager
[3:06:42] to do a letter on what
[3:06:43] happened that night, there's
[3:06:45] an interest in doing this, I
[3:06:47] would like to see us doing
[3:06:49] that moving forward, not
[3:06:50] taking a position about it
[3:06:50] but
[3:06:51] explaining to the author,
[3:06:51] this
[3:06:53] is what we experienced when
[3:06:54] we
[3:06:55] allow for public comment
[3:06:56] happening on vao
[3:06:57] m where we
[3:06:58] really couldn't control it.
[3:07:00] >> thank you, councilmember,
[3:07:02] really important point and I
[3:07:03] appreciate you bringing that
[3:07:04] up as well.
[3:07:05] Just to separate, more just
[3:07:08] tracking and monitoring on
[3:07:10] ab650, I'm hearing support
[3:07:11] for
[3:07:12] the regional transit masure
[3:07:15] on that and then sending a
[3:07:16] letter to illustrate what
[3:07:18] occurred here and how that
[3:07:18] has
[3:07:20] affected south san francisco.
[3:07:21] MADAM City manager, do you
[3:07:22] have enough direction?
[3:07:23] >> I do, thank you.
[3:07:26] >> alright, thank you.
[3:07:27] Next agenda item, thank you,
[3:07:28] colleagues.
[3:07:30] >> moving on to closed
[3:07:31] session, item number 14 is a
[3:07:34] conference with legal
[3:07:34] counsel,
[3:07:35] anticipated litigation,
[3:07:36] initiation of litigation
[3:07:40] pursuant to government code
[3:07:41] section 54956.9d4, one
[3:07:43] potential case.
[3:07:45] Item 15 is conference with
[3:07:46] real property negotiators,
[3:07:49] pursuant to government code
[3:07:50] section 54956.8, properties,
[3:07:53] parcels on sign hill, south
[3:08:05] san francisco, apn numbers
[3:08:13] 012-351-020, 012-351-030,
[3:08:21] 012-024-060, 012-024-070,
[3:08:25] 012-04-080, 012-024-090,
[3:08:30] 012-024-100, 012-024-110 and
[3:08:31] 012-024-120.
[3:08:32] agency negotiators, nell
[3:08:33] selander, economic and
[3:08:35] community development
[3:08:36] director, greg mediati, parks
[3:08:38] and recreation director and
[3:08:40] sky woodruff, city attorney.
[3:08:42] Negotiating parties, syme
[3:08:43] venture partners lp, under
[3:08:45] negotiation, price and terms.
[3:08:46] >> thank you, everyone, have
[3:08:47] a
[3:08:48] good evening, we're adjourned
[3:08:49] to closed session.
[3:08:51] Thank you.
[3:08:52] (Meeting adjourned to closed