1
00:00:07,572 --> 00:00:09,572
We adjourn.

2
00:00:10,700 --> 00:00:11,943
To the city of South Saint Paul.

3
00:00:11,943 --> 00:00:14,612
I call this meeting to order

4
00:00:14,612 --> 00:00:17,115
for Monday, NOVEMBER 4th. MISS

5
00:00:17,115 --> 00:00:19,350
Werner, will you please call

6
00:00:19,350 --> 00:00:21,286
the roll? Toen here. Council

7
00:00:21,286 --> 00:00:23,254
member Hanson, Council member

8
00:00:23,254 --> 00:00:25,389
Kaleski. Council member Pod

9
00:00:25,389 --> 00:00:27,758
Gorski, Council member Sberg

10
00:00:27,758 --> 00:00:28,826
Council member Thompson, Mayor

11
00:00:28,826 --> 00:00:29,861
Francis all present. Thank you

12
00:00:29,861 --> 00:00:31,663
very much. Please stand and

13
00:00:31,663 --> 00:00:34,899
join us in our Invocation and

14
00:00:34,899 --> 00:00:36,535
our pledge of allegiance.

15
00:00:36,535 --> 00:00:38,336
Heavenly Father, we come to you

16
00:00:38,336 --> 00:00:39,904
today asking for your guidance,

17
00:00:39,904 --> 00:00:42,773
wisdom and support as we begin

18
00:00:42,773 --> 00:00:43,675
this meeting. Help us to engage

19
00:00:43,675 --> 00:00:45,430
in meaningful discussion allow

20
00:00:45,430 --> 00:00:46,577
us to grow closer as a group

21
00:00:46,577 --> 00:00:49,577
and nurture the bonds of

22
00:00:50,849 --> 00:00:53,251
community. Amen. Amen. I pledge

23
00:00:53,251 --> 00:00:55,153
allegiance to the plan of the

24
00:00:55,153 --> 00:00:58,753
United States of America and to

25
00:01:00,993 --> 00:01:02,193
the Republic nation under GOD

26
00:01:02,193 --> 00:01:04,593
individual with liberty and

27
00:01:07,966 --> 00:01:09,968
justice for all. Good evening.

28
00:01:09,968 --> 00:01:10,268
We have no presentations today,

29
00:01:10,268 --> 00:01:11,403
so citizens

30
00:01:11,403 --> 00:01:12,271
comments is next.

31
00:01:12,271 --> 00:01:13,738
Anybody here with anything that

32
00:01:13,738 --> 00:01:15,741
is not on the agenda. They wish

33
00:01:15,741 --> 00:01:16,708
to speak about. This is the

34
00:01:16,708 --> 00:01:20,308
time to do that. Please step

35
00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:23,882
forward. Seeing none. Look for

36
00:01:23,882 --> 00:01:26,251
a motion to approve our agenda.

37
00:01:26,251 --> 00:01:27,619
So moved, Your Honor, that

38
00:01:27,619 --> 00:01:30,589
there was moved by Seabrook,

39
00:01:30,589 --> 00:01:32,557
second by Bakke? Is that

40
00:01:32,557 --> 00:01:34,793
correct? All right, just making

41
00:01:34,793 --> 00:01:37,829
sure. All in favor? I any

42
00:01:37,829 --> 00:01:38,930
oppose? Our agenda passes. Our

43
00:01:38,930 --> 00:01:40,899
consent agenda, all the items

44
00:01:40,899 --> 00:01:42,267
listed on our consent agenda

45
00:01:42,267 --> 00:01:43,369
are considered routine and will

46
00:01:43,369 --> 00:01:44,603
be approved in one motion.

47
00:01:44,603 --> 00:01:45,704
There will be no separate

48
00:01:45,704 --> 00:01:47,572
discussion of these items

49
00:01:47,572 --> 00:01:48,507
unless a council member or a

50
00:01:48,507 --> 00:01:50,542
citizen so requests. In that

51
00:01:50,542 --> 00:01:51,410
event, it will be removed from

52
00:01:51,410 --> 00:01:53,445
the consent agenda and

53
00:01:53,445 --> 00:01:54,813
considered at the end of our

54
00:01:54,813 --> 00:01:58,413
consent any items to be removed,

55
00:01:58,417 --> 00:01:59,317
council. Public, any items to

56
00:01:59,317 --> 00:02:01,854
be removed from our consent

57
00:02:01,854 --> 00:02:03,856
agenda. Can we slow down a

58
00:02:03,856 --> 00:02:07,456
little bit here? Sure, we can,

59
00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,328
Michael. Thank you. The consent

60
00:02:09,328 --> 00:02:12,564
agenda, no other items to be

61
00:02:12,564 --> 00:02:14,670
removed from the public or the

62
00:02:14,670 --> 00:02:16,669
council with that I look for a

63
00:02:16,669 --> 00:02:16,836
motion to approve, so moved.

64
00:02:16,836 --> 00:02:18,836
It

65
00:02:18,938 --> 00:02:21,240
s like a moved by Kalzeki,

66
00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:21,907
second by Thompson. MS. Warner,

67
00:02:21,907 --> 00:02:24,777
will you please read those

68
00:02:24,777 --> 00:02:26,512
items and then call the roll

69
00:02:26,512 --> 00:02:27,313
resolve the city of Sault Saint

70
00:02:27,313 --> 00:02:30,215
Paul does hereby approve the

71
00:02:30,215 --> 00:02:32,615
following. City council meeting

72
00:02:32,818 --> 00:02:35,540
minutes of OCTOBER 21st, 2024.

73
00:02:35,540 --> 00:02:37,423
Accounts payable. Declare costs

74
00:02:37,423 --> 00:02:38,924
to be assessed for the concrete

75
00:02:38,924 --> 00:02:40,924
exchange improvement project

76
00:02:41,528 --> 00:02:43,528
number 202401. Approved master

77
00:02:43,663 --> 00:02:45,663
control agreement. Turf

78
00:02:48,670 --> 00:02:49,535
maintenance services. Award

79
00:02:49,535 --> 00:02:50,360
streetscape services to

80
00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,360
curbside landscape and

81
00:02:52,605 --> 00:02:55,605
irrigation. To declare costs to

82
00:02:55,942 --> 00:02:58,678
be assessed for the 7th annual

83
00:02:58,678 --> 00:03:01,780
Avenue South Reconstruction and

84
00:03:01,547 --> 00:03:03,947
I-9494 water main improvement

85
00:03:04,717 --> 00:03:05,719
project number 2023-12. Retain

86
00:03:05,719 --> 00:03:06,986
Kraus Andersson Construction

87
00:03:06,986 --> 00:03:09,386
Company as the construction

88
00:03:11,900 --> 00:03:12,125
management advisor. Approved

89
00:03:12,125 --> 00:03:13,126
resolution 2024 131

90
00:03:13,126 --> 00:03:14,527
acknowledgment of lawful

91
00:03:14,527 --> 00:03:16,963
gambling exempt permit for Holy

92
00:03:16,963 --> 00:03:18,963
Trinity Catholic Church.

93
00:03:20,634 --> 00:03:21,335
Council member back in. Yes.

94
00:03:21,335 --> 00:03:23,335
Mayor Francis Councilmember

95
00:03:23,536 --> 00:03:25,380
Hanson, yes council member

96
00:03:25,380 --> 00:03:27,438
Kalaski, Council member Pod

97
00:03:28,700 --> 00:03:29,776
Gorski, Council member s Seberg

98
00:03:29,776 --> 00:03:31,776
Council member Thompson. 70.

99
00:03:32,512 --> 00:03:33,846
Thank you very much. Consent

100
00:03:33,846 --> 00:03:36,846
passes. Next is our public

101
00:03:37,383 --> 00:03:38,452
hearing. This first one is

102
00:03:38,452 --> 00:03:40,620
certifying unpaid charges to

103
00:03:40,620 --> 00:03:43,200
the county auditor. Hello,

104
00:03:44,391 --> 00:03:46,726
Clara. Welcome. Good evening.

105
00:03:46,726 --> 00:03:48,195
Um, the items that we are

106
00:03:48,195 --> 00:03:50,564
certifying or asking you to

107
00:03:50,564 --> 00:03:52,650
certify this evening. Our

108
00:03:52,650 --> 00:03:54,340
abatements, re-inspection fees,

109
00:03:54,340 --> 00:03:54,902
code enforcement citations, and

110
00:03:54,902 --> 00:03:56,503
rental license citations, all

111
00:03:56,503 --> 00:03:57,905
of the property owners received

112
00:03:57,905 --> 00:04:00,240
a letter indicating that these

113
00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:00,474
items would be on this

114
00:04:00,474 --> 00:04:01,341
evening

115
00:04:01,341 --> 00:04:02,275
s agenda, including the

116
00:04:02,275 --> 00:04:03,777
public hearing notice, in

117
00:04:03,777 --> 00:04:05,145
addition, public hearing notice

118
00:04:05,145 --> 00:04:08,145
was published in this, uh,

119
00:04:08,148 --> 00:04:10,117
Pioneer Press. Um, each of the

120
00:04:10,117 --> 00:04:12,252
properties was notified of the

121
00:04:12,252 --> 00:04:15,252
code enforcement or, um, rental

122
00:04:16,257 --> 00:04:18,910
license. Uh, infraction by the

123
00:04:18,910 --> 00:04:20,491
department invoices were issued

124
00:04:20,527 --> 00:04:21,896
by finance, uh, statements were

125
00:04:21,896 --> 00:04:24,898
sent out for the bills as they

126
00:04:24,898 --> 00:04:26,266
were not paid. Uh, these

127
00:04:26,266 --> 00:04:28,666
invoices were issued between

128
00:04:28,668 --> 00:04:31,172
OCTOBER of 23 and SEPTEMBER of

129
00:04:31,172 --> 00:04:32,539
24. All charges are past due as

130
00:04:32,539 --> 00:04:35,750
of NOVEMBER 1st in accordance

131
00:04:35,750 --> 00:04:36,543
with city code. All the

132
00:04:36,543 --> 00:04:38,278
property owners have until

133
00:04:38,278 --> 00:04:38,812
DECEMBER 4th to pay the

134
00:04:38,812 --> 00:04:40,812
original invoice amounts

135
00:04:42,750 --> 00:04:45,150
without interest. Um, as

136
00:04:45,619 --> 00:04:48,122
allowed by statute. At that

137
00:04:48,122 --> 00:04:50,390
time, any charges not paid will

138
00:04:50,390 --> 00:04:52,760
be certified to the county to

139
00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,662
be collected with the 2025

140
00:04:54,662 --> 00:04:57,498
property taxes. These are one

141
00:04:57,498 --> 00:04:58,265
year assessments. Um, one

142
00:04:58,265 --> 00:05:00,534
correction I would like to make

143
00:05:00,534 --> 00:05:00,734
is that we do have a pin number

144
00:05:00,734 --> 00:05:01,535
that

145
00:05:01,535 --> 00:05:03,370
s incorrect on the

146
00:05:03,370 --> 00:05:04,138
resolution, we will make that

147
00:05:04,138 --> 00:05:07,138
correction before we submit it

148
00:05:08,208 --> 00:05:09,477
to the county. I myself and

149
00:05:09,477 --> 00:05:12,477
other staff are available if

150
00:05:13,514 --> 00:05:16,384
anyone has any questions. Uh MS.

151
00:05:16,384 --> 00:05:18,520
Elders, you, uh, you said you a

152
00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,520
property id number was missed.

153
00:05:22,690 --> 00:05:23,524
Ok. One of the property IDs is

154
00:05:23,524 --> 00:05:25,924
incorrect and the 113 3rd

155
00:05:27,270 --> 00:05:28,429
Avenue South. Very good. Uh,

156
00:05:28,429 --> 00:05:31,429
and the total assessments being

157
00:05:32,267 --> 00:05:33,901
levied to the auditor is 34,776.

158
00:05:33,901 --> 00:05:35,769
Is that correct? And we will

159
00:05:35,769 --> 00:05:36,136
again, like I said, we

160
00:05:36,136 --> 00:05:36,604
ll

161
00:05:36,604 --> 00:05:37,104
deduct anything that

162
00:05:37,104 --> 00:05:38,973
s paid

163
00:05:38,973 --> 00:05:41,973
between now and DECEMBER 4th.

164
00:05:42,677 --> 00:05:43,544
Very good. This is a public

165
00:05:43,544 --> 00:05:46,281
hearing, I guess I will open

166
00:05:46,281 --> 00:05:49,150
that up. Anybody here wish to

167
00:05:49,150 --> 00:05:50,585
speak on the items for the

168
00:05:50,585 --> 00:05:51,752
certifying unpaid charges to

169
00:05:51,752 --> 00:05:53,522
the county auditor. Anybody

170
00:05:53,522 --> 00:05:57,122
here whose address is on there

171
00:05:57,258 --> 00:06:00,258
that wants to discuss or

172
00:06:00,394 --> 00:06:02,163
Anything further? Asking again

173
00:06:02,163 --> 00:06:03,631
if anybody here from the public

174
00:06:03,631 --> 00:06:05,467
wishes to speak on the

175
00:06:05,467 --> 00:06:07,867
certifying the unpaid charges

176
00:06:09,504 --> 00:06:10,400
to the county auditor. Seeing

177
00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:10,939
and hearing none, we

178
00:06:10,939 --> 00:06:12,640
ll close

179
00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,210
the public hearing, look to

180
00:06:15,210 --> 00:06:17,610
counsel for questions. Comments

181
00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:20,480
Emotions Your Honor,

182
00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:21,449
Councilmember Sberg move to

183
00:06:21,449 --> 00:06:23,819
approve with the correction to

184
00:06:23,819 --> 00:06:26,254
113 3rd Avenue South. We have a

185
00:06:26,254 --> 00:06:27,655
motion to approve by Councilor

186
00:06:27,655 --> 00:06:29,891
Sieberg, seconded by Podgorski

187
00:06:29,891 --> 00:06:31,891
for approval. Further

188
00:06:35,300 --> 00:06:37,232
discussion. Seeing none. MS.

189
00:06:37,232 --> 00:06:39,668
Werner, please call the roll.

190
00:06:39,668 --> 00:06:41,269
Mayor Francis, yes,

191
00:06:41,269 --> 00:06:43,400
Councilmember Hanson, Council

192
00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,404
member Kauski, Council member

193
00:06:45,407 --> 00:06:47,442
Pat Gorski, council member Serg

194
00:06:47,442 --> 00:06:48,811
Council member Thompson,

195
00:06:48,811 --> 00:06:50,913
Council member Bakke. Yes, 70.

196
00:06:50,913 --> 00:06:53,913
Thank you very much. Motion

197
00:06:54,149 --> 00:06:56,585
passes. Thank you. Clara. Next

198
00:06:56,585 --> 00:06:59,221
up is an assessment hearing for

199
00:06:59,221 --> 00:07:01,221
concrete exchange improvements

200
00:07:01,590 --> 00:07:03,826
project number 2024-01. MR.

201
00:07:03,826 --> 00:07:04,926
Williams, welcome. Good evening,

202
00:07:04,926 --> 00:07:06,595
Mayor and members of the

203
00:07:06,595 --> 00:07:10,195
council. Uh, one second as I

204
00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:24,747
load the presentation. At least

205
00:07:24,747 --> 00:07:26,747
something

206
00:07:29,151 --> 00:07:31,151
s happening. Sorry

207
00:07:31,553 --> 00:07:31,820
about that. There it is. At

208
00:07:31,820 --> 00:07:33,489
least it

209
00:07:33,489 --> 00:07:35,858
s on my screen. I get

210
00:07:35,858 --> 00:07:37,293
it. Ok, there we go. All right.

211
00:07:37,293 --> 00:07:38,827
Good evening mayor and members

212
00:07:38,827 --> 00:07:41,663
of the council. Uh, tonight is

213
00:07:41,663 --> 00:07:42,298
the assessment hearing for the

214
00:07:42,298 --> 00:07:43,333
Concord exchange Improvement

215
00:07:43,333 --> 00:07:43,466
Project, uh, brief presentation

216
00:07:43,466 --> 00:07:44,600
I

217
00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,502
ll go through this evening,

218
00:07:46,502 --> 00:07:47,469
then we can open up the public

219
00:07:47,469 --> 00:07:49,869
hearing and answer any

220
00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,208
questions the council MAY have.

221
00:07:53,208 --> 00:07:55,244
So the agenda will go through a

222
00:07:55,244 --> 00:07:56,612
summary of the project costs

223
00:07:56,612 --> 00:07:57,546
and funding sources talk about

224
00:07:57,546 --> 00:07:59,946
the special assessments, and

225
00:08:00,950 --> 00:08:02,618
lastly, the councilor action.

226
00:08:02,618 --> 00:08:03,920
So location we have Concord

227
00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,255
Exchange, uh, kind of broken up

228
00:08:06,255 --> 00:08:07,323
into two projects. We have the

229
00:08:07,323 --> 00:08:09,323
streetscape improvements north

230
00:08:09,826 --> 00:08:12,940
of Grand and the medians, uh,

231
00:08:12,940 --> 00:08:13,696
that was uh funded through the

232
00:08:13,696 --> 00:08:15,998
developer through the yards

233
00:08:15,998 --> 00:08:17,466
development, and then we have

234
00:08:17,466 --> 00:08:19,350
the reconstructions and

235
00:08:19,350 --> 00:08:20,436
streetscape improvements, south

236
00:08:20,436 --> 00:08:22,405
of Concord Exchange between

237
00:08:22,405 --> 00:08:24,774
Grand and the southern access

238
00:08:24,774 --> 00:08:26,509
that did include a full upgrade

239
00:08:26,509 --> 00:08:29,346
of storm sewer system as well

240
00:08:29,346 --> 00:08:30,780
as water main improvements. So

241
00:08:30,780 --> 00:08:32,516
before the project, you can see

242
00:08:32,516 --> 00:08:34,684
some photos here, uh, in the

243
00:08:34,684 --> 00:08:36,519
streetscape area. We had some

244
00:08:36,519 --> 00:08:37,754
deteriorated sidewalk

245
00:08:37,754 --> 00:08:40,154
conditions, various uplifts, um,

246
00:08:40,456 --> 00:08:41,358
you know, kind of some outdated

247
00:08:41,358 --> 00:08:42,925
streetscape amenities, which

248
00:08:42,925 --> 00:08:45,428
were all improved with this

249
00:08:45,428 --> 00:08:46,730
project. Uh, you can see, uh,

250
00:08:46,730 --> 00:08:47,164
in the reconstruction area,

251
00:08:47,164 --> 00:08:49,164
some pavement that

252
00:08:49,232 --> 00:08:50,233
s in poor

253
00:08:50,233 --> 00:08:52,633
condition, potholes and things

254
00:08:53,169 --> 00:08:57,600
of that nature, um, you know, a

255
00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:57,707
sidewalk again varied and, and

256
00:08:57,707 --> 00:08:59,309
various locations inconsistent

257
00:08:59,309 --> 00:09:00,844
wits, um, and then some kind of

258
00:09:00,844 --> 00:09:01,478
outdated, uh, street lights

259
00:09:01,478 --> 00:09:04,478
that we replaced with this

260
00:09:06,716 --> 00:09:08,385
project. So a summary in the

261
00:09:08,385 --> 00:09:09,719
streetscape area, we, uh,

262
00:09:09,719 --> 00:09:11,555
updated the landscaping and the

263
00:09:11,555 --> 00:09:14,291
medians, uh, replaced all the

264
00:09:14,291 --> 00:09:14,925
sidewalk through that, um, that

265
00:09:14,925 --> 00:09:16,925
Northern peace streetscape

266
00:09:17,494 --> 00:09:18,995
features, new benches, uh,

267
00:09:18,995 --> 00:09:20,731
trash cans, things of that

268
00:09:20,731 --> 00:09:22,699
nature, all the street lights

269
00:09:22,699 --> 00:09:24,601
got upgraded. Uh, we also did

270
00:09:24,601 --> 00:09:26,103
put an irrigation system in for

271
00:09:26,103 --> 00:09:26,303
the medians, so public works

272
00:09:26,303 --> 00:09:27,837
doesn

273
00:09:27,837 --> 00:09:28,400
t have to water that, so

274
00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:29,807
it

275
00:09:29,807 --> 00:09:31,775
s all self-sustaining.

276
00:09:31,775 --> 00:09:32,910
Reconstruction area, full

277
00:09:32,910 --> 00:09:34,744
roadway reconstruction, new

278
00:09:34,744 --> 00:09:36,880
aggregate base, new pavement,

279
00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,216
new curb and gutter, uh, new

280
00:09:39,216 --> 00:09:40,650
sidewalk throughout, um. New

281
00:09:40,650 --> 00:09:42,720
skatescape features similar to

282
00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:43,887
the, the streetscape piece, uh,

283
00:09:43,887 --> 00:09:46,690
irrigation as well and all the

284
00:09:46,690 --> 00:09:48,692
plantar areas. Uh, sanitary

285
00:09:48,692 --> 00:09:50,127
sewer upgrades, um, so with all

286
00:09:50,127 --> 00:09:51,629
the developable properties that

287
00:09:51,629 --> 00:09:53,630
could be on Core exchange, we

288
00:09:53,630 --> 00:09:54,465
stubbed out sewer and water to

289
00:09:54,465 --> 00:09:55,232
those properties, so when they

290
00:09:55,232 --> 00:09:55,432
come in to develop, we don

291
00:09:55,432 --> 00:09:56,330
t

292
00:09:56,330 --> 00:09:59,269
have to tear into the new

293
00:09:59,269 --> 00:10:00,571
street. Uh, storm sewer, some

294
00:10:00,571 --> 00:10:01,438
pretty massive storm sewer

295
00:10:01,438 --> 00:10:03,700
upgrades, improved drainage,

296
00:10:03,700 --> 00:10:05,643
and again, the street lighting,

297
00:10:05,643 --> 00:10:06,510
we, uh, really added, um, a lot

298
00:10:06,510 --> 00:10:07,444
of improvements to the street

299
00:10:07,444 --> 00:10:09,780
light system out there to

300
00:10:09,780 --> 00:10:13,151
really make sure it was very

301
00:10:13,151 --> 00:10:16,151
lit during the evening hours.

302
00:10:16,486 --> 00:10:18,990
So this kind of uh a neat slide

303
00:10:18,990 --> 00:10:19,923
showing the pre-construction,

304
00:10:19,923 --> 00:10:22,327
um road conditions versus post,

305
00:10:22,327 --> 00:10:24,462
uh, you can kind of see what it

306
00:10:24,462 --> 00:10:25,729
looked like from Aeroview, uh,

307
00:10:25,729 --> 00:10:28,632
previously, um, just, you know,

308
00:10:28,632 --> 00:10:30,340
road was just kind of beat up,

309
00:10:30,340 --> 00:10:31,202
poor condition, had a really

310
00:10:31,202 --> 00:10:33,137
inconsistent kind of road with

311
00:10:33,137 --> 00:10:34,671
throughout, no real consistency

312
00:10:34,671 --> 00:10:36,941
through anywhere, through the

313
00:10:36,941 --> 00:10:37,575
corridor, uh, and then at the,

314
00:10:37,575 --> 00:10:40,245
and then the slide at the

315
00:10:40,245 --> 00:10:41,645
bottom shows kind of the post

316
00:10:41,645 --> 00:10:43,748
condition, um, you know, we got

317
00:10:43,748 --> 00:10:45,516
our, uh, 11 ft lanes, 9-foot

318
00:10:45,516 --> 00:10:46,951
parking, being a commercial

319
00:10:46,951 --> 00:10:48,119
area, um, the lines you see

320
00:10:48,119 --> 00:10:48,953
there are the striping yet, the

321
00:10:48,953 --> 00:10:49,621
striping is supposed to happen

322
00:10:49,621 --> 00:10:50,354
today, but it didn

323
00:10:50,354 --> 00:10:51,889
t happen

324
00:10:51,889 --> 00:10:52,423
with the rain, but that

325
00:10:52,423 --> 00:10:53,357
s just

326
00:10:53,357 --> 00:10:55,757
for illustration purposes, but

327
00:10:56,193 --> 00:10:59,864
kind of get the idea, um, of,

328
00:10:59,864 --> 00:11:02,266
of how it looks today. With

329
00:11:02,266 --> 00:11:04,302
that, um, that would show a

330
00:11:04,302 --> 00:11:06,404
quick drone video for all those

331
00:11:06,404 --> 00:11:07,720
who are interested, uh, about

332
00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,408
30 seconds long and I can kind

333
00:11:10,408 --> 00:11:10,809
of describe. What we

334
00:11:10,809 --> 00:11:12,809
re seeing,

335
00:11:12,844 --> 00:11:14,879
so this is kind of going south.

336
00:11:14,879 --> 00:11:16,448
You can see the old Vendela

337
00:11:16,448 --> 00:11:18,783
glass, see the street lights,

338
00:11:18,783 --> 00:11:21,786
we got our new sidewalk, you

339
00:11:21,786 --> 00:11:24,122
can see the planter boxes, um,

340
00:11:24,122 --> 00:11:26,124
again those are all irrigated,

341
00:11:26,124 --> 00:11:27,992
uh, new curb and gutter, um,

342
00:11:27,992 --> 00:11:28,159
that car is not going that fast.

343
00:11:28,159 --> 00:11:28,927
It

344
00:11:28,927 --> 00:11:29,461
s the, it

345
00:11:29,461 --> 00:11:30,361
s the drone

346
00:11:30,361 --> 00:11:33,297
footage that actually makes it

347
00:11:33,297 --> 00:11:34,366
look that fast, so just so you

348
00:11:34,366 --> 00:11:35,666
know so it gives you a kind of

349
00:11:35,666 --> 00:11:36,734
idea of, of the improvements

350
00:11:36,734 --> 00:11:37,202
that we did. I

351
00:11:37,202 --> 00:11:39,602
m very proud of,

352
00:11:40,839 --> 00:11:44,439
of what, how it looks. Groups

353
00:11:45,476 --> 00:11:47,379
Yeah ok, sorry about that. Ok,

354
00:11:47,379 --> 00:11:48,880
on to project costs and funding,

355
00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,349
uh, looking at a total project

356
00:11:50,349 --> 00:11:53,349
costs of just under 4 million.

357
00:11:53,886 --> 00:11:55,654
That is under our as bid amount

358
00:11:55,654 --> 00:11:56,188
by about 320,000, um, pretty

359
00:11:56,188 --> 00:11:57,555
fortunate that we didn

360
00:11:57,555 --> 00:11:58,757
t run

361
00:11:58,757 --> 00:12:00,910
into any unforeseen conditions

362
00:12:00,910 --> 00:12:01,994
along that corridor, uh, given

363
00:12:01,994 --> 00:12:03,962
the history of Concert Exchange,

364
00:12:03,962 --> 00:12:07,320
we kind of anticipated we might

365
00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:07,666
run into some buried debris,

366
00:12:07,666 --> 00:12:09,200
building foundations,

367
00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,136
contaminated soil, things of

368
00:12:11,136 --> 00:12:12,400
that nature, um, but we were

369
00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:12,404
fortunate that we, we didn

370
00:12:12,404 --> 00:12:12,604
t,

371
00:12:12,604 --> 00:12:13,710
so we

372
00:12:13,710 --> 00:12:15,473
re able to deliver it

373
00:12:15,473 --> 00:12:16,575
under Budget, um, you know,

374
00:12:16,575 --> 00:12:18,710
also during construction, um,

375
00:12:18,710 --> 00:12:20,120
you know, Tom and Kelsey both

376
00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:20,646
looking at ways to save money

377
00:12:20,646 --> 00:12:20,913
during construction. We

378
00:12:20,913 --> 00:12:22,447
re

379
00:12:22,447 --> 00:12:23,749
always trying to find little

380
00:12:23,749 --> 00:12:24,916
tweaks here that we can save

381
00:12:24,916 --> 00:12:25,317
some money on this, then we do

382
00:12:25,317 --> 00:12:26,318
that? That

383
00:12:26,318 --> 00:12:28,420
s kind of a big part

384
00:12:28,420 --> 00:12:30,422
of our job. So you can see, uh,

385
00:12:30,422 --> 00:12:34,220
those costs did come in, uh,

386
00:12:35,828 --> 00:12:37,620
less than our as been amount.

387
00:12:37,620 --> 00:12:37,796
Funding sources so various

388
00:12:37,796 --> 00:12:38,731
funding sources for this. We

389
00:12:38,731 --> 00:12:41,166
got our municipal state aid is

390
00:12:41,166 --> 00:12:42,635
a state of road, about 1

391
00:12:42,635 --> 00:12:44,102
million uh tax increment

392
00:12:44,102 --> 00:12:45,238
financing of a million, uh, the

393
00:12:45,238 --> 00:12:46,271
developer fund I previously

394
00:12:46,271 --> 00:12:48,441
mentioned for the street skate

395
00:12:48,441 --> 00:12:50,376
piece, um, that was kind of on

396
00:12:50,376 --> 00:12:52,444
their plate to do, but we added

397
00:12:52,444 --> 00:12:53,846
it to our project. It was just

398
00:12:53,846 --> 00:12:54,347
easier that way. Uh, special

399
00:12:54,347 --> 00:12:54,547
assessments, which we

400
00:12:54,547 --> 00:12:56,547
re here

401
00:12:58,183 --> 00:12:59,752
to talk about tonight,

402
00:12:59,752 --> 00:13:01,386
approximately 40 545,000. Our

403
00:13:01,386 --> 00:13:02,655
water utility, sanitary sewer,

404
00:13:02,655 --> 00:13:06,255
and storm sewer make up the

405
00:13:07,860 --> 00:13:10,129
rest of that, um. Cost. So this

406
00:13:10,129 --> 00:13:12,131
is proposed to be specially

407
00:13:12,131 --> 00:13:12,248
assessed through the city

408
00:13:12,248 --> 00:13:14,248
s

409
00:13:15,401 --> 00:13:17,436
assessment policy that rate is

410
00:13:17,436 --> 00:13:19,538
$90.40 per front foot, uh, all

411
00:13:19,538 --> 00:13:21,307
the properties on this corridor

412
00:13:21,307 --> 00:13:22,108
are commercial retail, high,

413
00:13:22,108 --> 00:13:24,508
high density residential, so

414
00:13:24,777 --> 00:13:25,778
there, there is no maximum for

415
00:13:25,778 --> 00:13:27,881
those commercial properties, um,

416
00:13:27,881 --> 00:13:29,582
they are kept at 5%, but the

417
00:13:29,582 --> 00:13:32,118
reason being is they have a

418
00:13:32,118 --> 00:13:33,190
more intense use more traffic,

419
00:13:33,190 --> 00:13:35,621
more heavier vehicles, kind of

420
00:13:35,621 --> 00:13:37,560
more wear and tear on the road,

421
00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:37,823
uh, as opposed to a residential

422
00:13:37,823 --> 00:13:39,823
property there. There

423
00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,960
s no max.

424
00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,365
So if adopted tonight, um,

425
00:13:45,365 --> 00:13:46,533
property owners have the option

426
00:13:46,533 --> 00:13:48,234
to prepay the assessment within

427
00:13:48,234 --> 00:13:49,836
30 days of tonight, which would

428
00:13:49,836 --> 00:13:51,204
be DECEMBER 4th without

429
00:13:51,204 --> 00:13:52,572
interest. If not, it goes on,

430
00:13:52,572 --> 00:13:54,707
automatically goes on property

431
00:13:54,707 --> 00:13:56,976
taxes over a 10-year period, uh,

432
00:13:56,976 --> 00:13:58,440
with a 5% interest rate. And

433
00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,444
there are deferment options

434
00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,181
available, um, for those who

435
00:14:02,181 --> 00:14:03,516
qualify if, um, senior citizens,

436
00:14:03,516 --> 00:14:05,318
older fixed income, disabled

437
00:14:05,318 --> 00:14:07,287
veterans that usually applies

438
00:14:07,287 --> 00:14:08,187
to residential properties, but

439
00:14:08,187 --> 00:14:10,587
there are different options

440
00:14:11,490 --> 00:14:15,900
available. So the action is to

441
00:14:15,294 --> 00:14:16,496
hold a public hearing first and

442
00:14:16,496 --> 00:14:17,730
then consider resolution

443
00:14:17,730 --> 00:14:19,730
2024-126, adopting the

444
00:14:20,433 --> 00:14:21,670
assessment role of the Cocker

445
00:14:21,670 --> 00:14:22,769
exchange improvement project.

446
00:14:22,769 --> 00:14:23,936
Uh, with that, I could stand

447
00:14:23,936 --> 00:14:26,936
for questions. If the council

448
00:14:27,474 --> 00:14:28,375
has any. Very good. Uh, this is

449
00:14:28,375 --> 00:14:30,343
a public meeting, your public

450
00:14:30,343 --> 00:14:32,979
hearing? Uh, so I will open it

451
00:14:32,979 --> 00:14:34,815
up for public. Anybody here

452
00:14:34,815 --> 00:14:36,490
wishes to speak about the

453
00:14:36,490 --> 00:14:36,950
assessment on concrete exchange

454
00:14:36,950 --> 00:14:38,185
improvement for the concret

455
00:14:38,185 --> 00:14:39,185
exchange improvement. This is

456
00:14:39,185 --> 00:14:40,754
the time. Please step forward.

457
00:14:40,754 --> 00:14:41,855
I know there

458
00:14:41,855 --> 00:14:43,855
s some business

459
00:14:44,910 --> 00:14:46,590
owners here present, not sure

460
00:14:46,590 --> 00:14:48,328
if they wanted to discuss or um

461
00:14:48,328 --> 00:14:50,264
talk. But this is the time, so

462
00:14:50,264 --> 00:14:53,200
if anybody here would like to

463
00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:53,901
speak from the public about the

464
00:14:53,901 --> 00:14:56,301
assessing for concrete exchange

465
00:14:59,730 --> 00:14:59,707
improvement. Uh, seeing none,

466
00:14:59,707 --> 00:15:00,730
hearing none, I

467
00:15:00,730 --> 00:15:02,730
ll close the

468
00:15:02,977 --> 00:15:05,977
public hearing. And turned to

469
00:15:06,146 --> 00:15:08,482
council for questions. Comments

470
00:15:08,482 --> 00:15:10,284
or motions. Your Honor,

471
00:15:10,284 --> 00:15:12,119
Councilmember Sberg. Nick, you

472
00:15:12,119 --> 00:15:13,553
pointed out that it was capped

473
00:15:13,553 --> 00:15:15,953
at 5% for commercial properties.

474
00:15:15,989 --> 00:15:18,892
Can you tell us why that is and

475
00:15:18,892 --> 00:15:19,927
how that complies with state

476
00:15:19,927 --> 00:15:21,494
statute on assessments for

477
00:15:21,494 --> 00:15:23,494
street improvement projects.

478
00:15:23,531 --> 00:15:24,310
Sure, that was adopted through

479
00:15:24,310 --> 00:15:24,898
the city

480
00:15:24,898 --> 00:15:26,600
s assessment policy as

481
00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,100
a way to, you know, kind of

482
00:15:28,100 --> 00:15:29,370
limit how big the assessment

483
00:15:29,370 --> 00:15:30,837
amount would be, um, kind of a

484
00:15:30,837 --> 00:15:32,440
council decision at the time

485
00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:32,907
through our policy is to have

486
00:15:32,907 --> 00:15:33,374
an amount that

487
00:15:33,374 --> 00:15:33,488
s not, doesn

488
00:15:33,488 --> 00:15:35,488
t

489
00:15:37,811 --> 00:15:39,713
exceed that. And then we are

490
00:15:39,713 --> 00:15:41,682
obligated, so if somebody wants

491
00:15:41,682 --> 00:15:41,849
to contest their assessment,

492
00:15:41,849 --> 00:15:43,550
we

493
00:15:43,550 --> 00:15:45,520
re obligated to follow state

494
00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,489
statutes, so we have to prove

495
00:15:48,489 --> 00:15:51,125
that a property went up in

496
00:15:51,125 --> 00:15:52,359
value equal to or greater than

497
00:15:52,359 --> 00:15:54,329
the assessment that was the

498
00:15:54,329 --> 00:15:55,729
state statute part I was

499
00:15:55,729 --> 00:15:55,842
getting at, um, so we

500
00:15:55,842 --> 00:15:57,231
re

501
00:15:57,231 --> 00:15:58,298
complying with that. We make

502
00:15:58,298 --> 00:15:59,133
sure that that

503
00:15:59,133 --> 00:15:59,767
s the case in

504
00:15:59,767 --> 00:16:00,468
our opinion doesn

505
00:16:00,468 --> 00:16:00,602
t mean we

506
00:16:00,602 --> 00:16:01,735
re

507
00:16:01,735 --> 00:16:02,536
always right, but that

508
00:16:02,536 --> 00:16:04,536
s what

509
00:16:04,605 --> 00:16:05,272
we try to do, and then the

510
00:16:05,272 --> 00:16:08,272
different pots of money that

511
00:16:08,776 --> 00:16:10,911
made up The revenue that went

512
00:16:10,911 --> 00:16:12,847
into this, we had Minnesota

513
00:16:12,847 --> 00:16:13,114
state aid in addition to the

514
00:16:13,114 --> 00:16:13,581
developer

515
00:16:13,581 --> 00:16:15,483
s money that happened

516
00:16:15,483 --> 00:16:17,218
north of Gran we had the

517
00:16:17,218 --> 00:16:18,920
sanitary sewer fund and the

518
00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,589
storm sewer fund, sanitary and

519
00:16:21,589 --> 00:16:22,990
storm, we had some differences.

520
00:16:22,990 --> 00:16:24,926
You might say substantial

521
00:16:24,926 --> 00:16:27,280
differences in the pre-bed

522
00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:27,862
versus the post. Those are

523
00:16:27,862 --> 00:16:28,620
separate enterprise funds

524
00:16:28,620 --> 00:16:29,797
that

525
00:16:29,797 --> 00:16:30,765
s a city operates, correct?

526
00:16:30,765 --> 00:16:31,333
Yeah, Mayor remembers the

527
00:16:31,333 --> 00:16:32,299
council, that

528
00:16:32,299 --> 00:16:34,699
s correct. Um, so

529
00:16:34,802 --> 00:16:35,970
yeah, if, if somebody does

530
00:16:35,970 --> 00:16:37,138
appeal, there is a process on

531
00:16:37,138 --> 00:16:38,906
the, on the amount, but We do

532
00:16:38,906 --> 00:16:39,874
have the, those enterprise

533
00:16:39,874 --> 00:16:41,943
funds are kind of separate pots

534
00:16:41,943 --> 00:16:42,677
of money, if you will, for the

535
00:16:42,677 --> 00:16:45,677
individual pieces of the work

536
00:16:47,348 --> 00:16:47,515
that we do. Thank you. Others

537
00:16:47,515 --> 00:16:49,251
can

538
00:16:49,251 --> 00:16:50,284
t remember Kalzowski.

539
00:16:50,284 --> 00:16:52,284
,

540
00:16:52,721 --> 00:16:54,880
you and the entire staff and

541
00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:55,323
all the contractors did a super

542
00:16:55,323 --> 00:16:57,826
bang up job on that looks just

543
00:16:57,826 --> 00:17:00,228
great. Kudos to all of you.

544
00:17:00,228 --> 00:17:03,828
Thank you. Thank you. Very good.

545
00:17:05,366 --> 00:17:06,701
Thank you, Councilor. Others? I

546
00:17:06,701 --> 00:17:10,301
would agree that it does look

547
00:17:10,338 --> 00:17:11,600
nice, um. I also know that We

548
00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,406
did everything underneath the

549
00:17:17,312 --> 00:17:19,481
ground. Sewer water New base so

550
00:17:19,481 --> 00:17:20,882
this this road should last us

551
00:17:20,882 --> 00:17:21,316
quite some time. I

552
00:17:21,316 --> 00:17:22,484
ve noticed

553
00:17:22,484 --> 00:17:23,751
now on your drone footage as

554
00:17:23,751 --> 00:17:25,454
well as driving on it that

555
00:17:25,454 --> 00:17:25,654
there are no cuts in that.

556
00:17:25,654 --> 00:17:27,654
That

557
00:17:27,889 --> 00:17:28,190
s a one straight. There

558
00:17:28,190 --> 00:17:30,190
s

559
00:17:31,693 --> 00:17:31,893
no cuts inside the. Asphalt, um,

560
00:17:31,893 --> 00:17:32,794
that

561
00:17:32,794 --> 00:17:33,940
s nice as well. There

562
00:17:33,940 --> 00:17:33,294
s no,

563
00:17:33,294 --> 00:17:34,997
there

564
00:17:34,997 --> 00:17:36,898
s no noise. And is that a

565
00:17:36,898 --> 00:17:38,367
new thing or is that uh the

566
00:17:38,367 --> 00:17:41,303
standard of, of roads today

567
00:17:41,303 --> 00:17:42,337
that there are no cuts in those.

568
00:17:42,337 --> 00:17:43,772
We certainly do everything we

569
00:17:43,772 --> 00:17:45,640
can to not have a cut into the

570
00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:45,907
new pavement, um, sometimes

571
00:17:45,907 --> 00:17:46,708
when you

572
00:17:46,708 --> 00:17:47,710
re raising manholes,

573
00:17:47,710 --> 00:17:48,430
if you, you know, there

574
00:17:48,430 --> 00:17:48,743
s a

575
00:17:48,743 --> 00:17:51,513
process to doing that where you

576
00:17:51,513 --> 00:17:52,948
can have a cut into the road,

577
00:17:52,948 --> 00:17:53,916
um, but we, another reason why

578
00:17:53,916 --> 00:17:54,149
we stopped the utilities out so

579
00:17:54,149 --> 00:17:56,850
we don

580
00:17:56,850 --> 00:17:57,552
t have to cut it in the

581
00:17:57,552 --> 00:17:58,721
future, so our goal is always

582
00:17:58,721 --> 00:17:59,622
to not have cuts in the rope,

583
00:17:59,622 --> 00:17:59,788
but sometimes, you know, we

584
00:17:59,788 --> 00:17:59,989
can

585
00:17:59,989 --> 00:18:00,455
t. Can

586
00:18:00,455 --> 00:18:00,722
t always help it,

587
00:18:00,722 --> 00:18:02,722
but that

588
00:18:02,725 --> 00:18:04,993
s the goal. Very good,

589
00:18:04,993 --> 00:18:06,929
thank you. Your Honor,

590
00:18:06,929 --> 00:18:09,331
Councilor s Seberg, I would

591
00:18:09,331 --> 00:18:11,731
move to approve Resolution

592
00:18:12,601 --> 00:18:13,902
2024-126. Second Moved by

593
00:18:13,902 --> 00:18:16,302
council member Surg, seconded

594
00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,341
by Bakken. Further discussion,

595
00:18:19,341 --> 00:18:20,743
Your Honor, just one more thing,

596
00:18:20,743 --> 00:18:22,211
please, please receiver and

597
00:18:22,211 --> 00:18:24,247
then Nick, thanks to the

598
00:18:24,247 --> 00:18:25,447
businesses down there too,

599
00:18:25,447 --> 00:18:28,447
street projects are never fun.

600
00:18:29,285 --> 00:18:32,188
Uh We were blessed a little bit

601
00:18:32,188 --> 00:18:33,556
with some some decent weather,

602
00:18:33,556 --> 00:18:35,491
uh, for the latter part of the

603
00:18:35,491 --> 00:18:36,459
summer anyways, but we

604
00:18:36,459 --> 00:18:37,359
understand the inconvenience

605
00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:37,465
and we appreciate everybody

606
00:18:37,465 --> 00:18:37,793
s

607
00:18:37,793 --> 00:18:38,861
patience. It

608
00:18:38,861 --> 00:18:41,261
s not just the

609
00:18:41,364 --> 00:18:41,931
businesses, but on the next

610
00:18:41,931 --> 00:18:42,332
project. It

611
00:18:42,332 --> 00:18:42,532
s challenging.

612
00:18:42,532 --> 00:18:43,999
There

613
00:18:43,999 --> 00:18:46,368
s no good way to

614
00:18:46,368 --> 00:18:49,368
sugarcoat that. Um, but we

615
00:18:49,939 --> 00:18:51,374
appreciate The accessibility

616
00:18:51,374 --> 00:18:53,242
that not only the contractor,

617
00:18:53,242 --> 00:18:53,476
but Tom had in answering

618
00:18:53,476 --> 00:18:53,976
people

619
00:18:53,976 --> 00:18:56,376
s questions, so we

620
00:18:56,545 --> 00:18:58,514
appreciate that. Yeah, I would

621
00:18:58,514 --> 00:18:59,449
echo that Councilor s Seberg

622
00:18:59,449 --> 00:18:59,982
with the last year

623
00:18:59,982 --> 00:19:00,650
s Concord or

624
00:19:00,650 --> 00:19:03,650
the two years prior with

625
00:19:03,820 --> 00:19:04,587
Concord. Street and now with

626
00:19:04,587 --> 00:19:05,321
Concord Exchange those

627
00:19:05,321 --> 00:19:07,790
businesses have gone through a

628
00:19:07,790 --> 00:19:09,592
lot, so it is uh probably test

629
00:19:09,592 --> 00:19:10,860
of their patience, but now I, I

630
00:19:10,860 --> 00:19:12,128
just, I council member s Seri

631
00:19:12,128 --> 00:19:13,960
says, thank you for that and

632
00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:14,530
appreciate your investment in

633
00:19:14,530 --> 00:19:14,964
South Saint Paul. We

634
00:19:14,964 --> 00:19:16,964
re hoping

635
00:19:17,330 --> 00:19:17,967
Quality Auto will be there

636
00:19:17,967 --> 00:19:18,334
another 25 years. So you won

637
00:19:18,334 --> 00:19:20,334
t

638
00:19:21,204 --> 00:19:24,204
have to see another street

639
00:19:24,708 --> 00:19:25,608
project, right? Ok, uh,

640
00:19:25,608 --> 00:19:28,800
anything further council, we

641
00:19:29,646 --> 00:19:31,181
have a motion a second. Seeing

642
00:19:31,181 --> 00:19:33,516
none, MISS. Werner, please call

643
00:19:33,516 --> 00:19:34,551
the roll. Council member

644
00:19:34,551 --> 00:19:36,951
Steberg Council member Pod

645
00:19:36,987 --> 00:19:39,322
Gorski. Council member back in

646
00:19:39,322 --> 00:19:41,257
council member Thomson, Council

647
00:19:41,257 --> 00:19:43,657
member Hanson, council member

648
00:19:43,694 --> 00:19:45,128
Kaluski, Mayor Francis, 70.

649
00:19:45,128 --> 00:19:46,263
Thank you very much. Motion

650
00:19:46,263 --> 00:19:48,310
approved. Thank you for

651
00:19:48,310 --> 00:19:48,898
investing in South Saint Paul.

652
00:19:48,898 --> 00:19:51,298
The businesses there on

653
00:19:51,902 --> 00:19:53,636
Concrete exchange. Now we move

654
00:19:53,636 --> 00:19:54,337
along to assessment hearing for

655
00:19:54,337 --> 00:19:56,737
7th Avenue South reconstruction.

656
00:19:57,975 --> 00:19:59,509
MR. Williams, good evening

657
00:19:59,509 --> 00:20:01,445
again, Mayor and members of the

658
00:20:01,445 --> 00:20:03,914
council, uh, one second I load

659
00:20:03,914 --> 00:20:05,748
the presentation. Ok, here we

660
00:20:05,748 --> 00:20:08,318
go. This this is the assessment

661
00:20:08,318 --> 00:20:09,119
hearing for the 7th Avenue

662
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,287
South reconstruction project

663
00:20:10,287 --> 00:20:11,521
similar to the last

664
00:20:11,521 --> 00:20:12,155
presentation, uh, brief

665
00:20:12,155 --> 00:20:14,158
presentation will go through

666
00:20:14,158 --> 00:20:14,924
and we can open up, uh,

667
00:20:14,924 --> 00:20:17,324
questions and the public

668
00:20:18,610 --> 00:20:19,797
hearing at the end. Talk about

669
00:20:19,797 --> 00:20:21,364
the summary of the project,

670
00:20:21,364 --> 00:20:22,265
cost and funding, uh,

671
00:20:22,265 --> 00:20:24,665
assessment policy again, as

672
00:20:25,168 --> 00:20:26,470
well as the council action. So

673
00:20:26,470 --> 00:20:27,437
this project was the

674
00:20:27,437 --> 00:20:29,837
reconstruction and JULY proved

675
00:20:30,340 --> 00:20:32,843
the 7 Avenue South from I-494

676
00:20:32,843 --> 00:20:34,378
to South Street, 5 blocks of

677
00:20:34,378 --> 00:20:36,346
7th Avenue South and also

678
00:20:36,346 --> 00:20:38,649
consisted of the uh water main

679
00:20:38,649 --> 00:20:41,490
improvements along the under

680
00:20:43,554 --> 00:20:44,522
and along the I-494 corridor.

681
00:20:44,522 --> 00:20:46,560
Pre-construction conditions,

682
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:47,570
you can see the the road was

683
00:20:47,570 --> 00:20:48,959
definitely past its useful life

684
00:20:48,959 --> 00:20:50,594
as well as the water main,

685
00:20:50,594 --> 00:20:52,763
being 84 years old, um, did

686
00:20:52,763 --> 00:20:54,131
have a history of water main

687
00:20:54,131 --> 00:20:57,131
breaks, sanitary sewer was also,

688
00:20:57,768 --> 00:20:58,535
uh, old and we were able to, to

689
00:20:58,535 --> 00:21:00,710
rehab that roadway drainage was,

690
00:21:00,710 --> 00:21:02,600
was kind of lacking. We were

691
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,375
able to improve that, and then

692
00:21:04,375 --> 00:21:06,343
there was a, uh, sidewalk gap,

693
00:21:06,343 --> 00:21:07,378
uh, on the east side between

694
00:21:07,378 --> 00:21:07,678
Dale and South Street that

695
00:21:07,678 --> 00:21:08,880
s

696
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,347
been identified in in several

697
00:21:10,347 --> 00:21:11,883
city plans in the past and we

698
00:21:11,883 --> 00:21:15,485
were able to, uh, to put that

699
00:21:15,485 --> 00:21:16,921
new sidewalk in. And then the,

700
00:21:16,921 --> 00:21:17,522
the I-4994 Waterman crossings,

701
00:21:17,522 --> 00:21:19,290
this work isn

702
00:21:19,290 --> 00:21:21,290
t accessible work,

703
00:21:21,326 --> 00:21:22,293
but very important work as we

704
00:21:22,293 --> 00:21:24,693
had multiple crossings under

705
00:21:25,396 --> 00:21:26,597
that, uh, interstate, um, that

706
00:21:26,597 --> 00:21:29,600
were not encased old pipes in

707
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,436
the Risk there is if those

708
00:21:32,436 --> 00:21:33,571
pipes were ever to burst, you

709
00:21:33,571 --> 00:21:34,872
could potentially have sinkhole

710
00:21:34,872 --> 00:21:36,474
develop on a major interstate,

711
00:21:36,474 --> 00:21:37,608
which nobody wants. So we were

712
00:21:37,608 --> 00:21:41,208
able to correct that with this

713
00:21:41,379 --> 00:21:42,380
project as well. So the

714
00:21:42,380 --> 00:21:44,380
existing conditions, 60 ft

715
00:21:45,383 --> 00:21:45,550
right of way, 44 ft wide, um,

716
00:21:45,550 --> 00:21:47,550
it

717
00:21:47,652 --> 00:21:49,587
s kind of oversized for our

718
00:21:49,587 --> 00:21:51,222
new standards, um, twelve-foot

719
00:21:51,222 --> 00:21:53,622
lanes, 10-foot shoulders, uh,

720
00:21:54,425 --> 00:21:56,361
and then the 7 7.5 ft sidewalk

721
00:21:56,361 --> 00:21:57,829
between 494 and Dale. Uh, again,

722
00:21:57,829 --> 00:21:59,630
the no sidewalk, there was a

723
00:21:59,630 --> 00:22:02,630
gap between Dale and South

724
00:22:02,467 --> 00:22:03,201
Street. So what do we consider

725
00:22:03,201 --> 00:22:04,402
during road design? Well, this

726
00:22:04,402 --> 00:22:04,669
is a state aid road, so that

727
00:22:04,669 --> 00:22:05,870
s

728
00:22:05,870 --> 00:22:08,870
first and foremost, make sure

729
00:22:09,730 --> 00:22:11,442
we meet state aid standards for

730
00:22:11,442 --> 00:22:12,878
line width and parking. We did

731
00:22:12,878 --> 00:22:13,411
include a 5-foot boulevard for

732
00:22:13,411 --> 00:22:13,911
our city

733
00:22:13,911 --> 00:22:15,180
s new tree ordinance

734
00:22:15,180 --> 00:22:18,550
so we could plant trees in

735
00:22:18,550 --> 00:22:20,151
those boulevards. Uh, we

736
00:22:20,151 --> 00:22:22,920
addressed that sidewalk gap uh

737
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,923
between uh Dale and South that

738
00:22:24,923 --> 00:22:27,920
was identified in our 2014 bike

739
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,600
plan as well as our comp plan.

740
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:30,395
And we want to make sure it

741
00:22:30,395 --> 00:22:31,896
meets our complete streets

742
00:22:31,896 --> 00:22:34,766
policies the council adopted in

743
00:22:34,766 --> 00:22:35,800
2019, which, which it does, and

744
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,669
then kind of standard is we

745
00:22:37,669 --> 00:22:38,603
always try to avoid property

746
00:22:38,603 --> 00:22:40,172
acquisition, expensive

747
00:22:40,172 --> 00:22:41,506
retaining walls and things of

748
00:22:41,506 --> 00:22:45,106
that nature on all projects we

749
00:22:45,877 --> 00:22:46,878
we do and reconstruct roads.

750
00:22:46,878 --> 00:22:47,979
Summer of the project, so a

751
00:22:47,979 --> 00:22:50,415
couple of photos you can see

752
00:22:50,415 --> 00:22:51,817
again, I, I think this really

753
00:22:51,817 --> 00:22:53,251
turned out amazing, you know,

754
00:22:53,251 --> 00:22:56,721
with brand new water main, new

755
00:22:56,721 --> 00:22:57,990
services to the curb stop, uh,

756
00:22:57,990 --> 00:22:58,957
reline the sanitary sewer

757
00:22:58,957 --> 00:22:59,491
manholes when you realign the

758
00:22:59,491 --> 00:23:00,920
sanitary sewer, it

759
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,920
s basically

760
00:23:02,394 --> 00:23:05,330
a new pipe after you reign it,

761
00:23:05,330 --> 00:23:06,331
just cheaper to do that. Uh,

762
00:23:06,331 --> 00:23:08,266
all brand new storms were

763
00:23:08,266 --> 00:23:09,668
through there, uh, replacement

764
00:23:09,668 --> 00:23:12,337
and really upgraded the, the

765
00:23:12,337 --> 00:23:13,105
drainage of the road, uh, full

766
00:23:13,105 --> 00:23:14,240
roadway reconstruction,

767
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:14,839
sidewalk installation, uh, the

768
00:23:14,839 --> 00:23:16,408
street lighting, kind of

769
00:23:16,408 --> 00:23:17,509
matching. Our new street light

770
00:23:17,509 --> 00:23:18,343
standard that we

771
00:23:18,343 --> 00:23:19,745
ve seen on

772
00:23:19,745 --> 00:23:21,446
Congre Exchange, Concord Street,

773
00:23:21,446 --> 00:23:22,715
uh, trying to have a consistent

774
00:23:22,715 --> 00:23:23,815
kind of light standard. So if

775
00:23:23,815 --> 00:23:25,150
we ever do replace streets,

776
00:23:25,150 --> 00:23:28,150
street lights, we have the

777
00:23:28,187 --> 00:23:28,854
parts handy. And then, uh,

778
00:23:28,854 --> 00:23:29,550
boulevard tree planning, we

779
00:23:29,550 --> 00:23:30,210
weren

780
00:23:30,210 --> 00:23:31,824
t able to do that this

781
00:23:31,824 --> 00:23:32,991
year with the, with the weather,

782
00:23:32,991 --> 00:23:33,825
the fall, um, but we are

783
00:23:33,825 --> 00:23:34,860
planning to do that in the

784
00:23:34,860 --> 00:23:36,860
spring. We

785
00:23:36,862 --> 00:23:37,496
ll be contacting, uh,

786
00:23:37,496 --> 00:23:39,310
residents about they want a

787
00:23:39,310 --> 00:23:43,135
tree, we can work with them to

788
00:23:43,135 --> 00:23:44,503
get one. And then 494 work

789
00:23:44,503 --> 00:23:45,838
really removing all those

790
00:23:45,838 --> 00:23:47,720
redundant crossings, putting

791
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:48,600
one big crossing in, casing

792
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,275
that pipe, if there

793
00:23:49,275 --> 00:23:49,608
s ever a

794
00:23:49,608 --> 00:23:49,942
problem, it

795
00:23:49,942 --> 00:23:50,777
s casing, it

796
00:23:50,777 --> 00:23:52,211
s not

797
00:23:52,211 --> 00:23:53,179
going to undermine the, the

798
00:23:53,179 --> 00:23:55,748
surface under the road under

799
00:23:55,748 --> 00:23:57,216
the interstate. And then we

800
00:23:57,216 --> 00:23:58,250
also upgraded the system with

801
00:23:58,250 --> 00:23:59,652
kind of looping it and, you

802
00:23:59,652 --> 00:24:00,218
know, kind of making sure it

803
00:24:00,218 --> 00:24:02,218
s

804
00:24:04,490 --> 00:24:06,890
more resilient, more efficient.

805
00:24:07,927 --> 00:24:08,594
So similar photo, um, of the

806
00:24:08,594 --> 00:24:09,361
pre-construction versus post,

807
00:24:09,361 --> 00:24:10,897
uh, you can kind of see the

808
00:24:10,897 --> 00:24:11,965
center lines matching up. You

809
00:24:11,965 --> 00:24:13,733
can gives you a good idea of

810
00:24:13,733 --> 00:24:15,135
kind of how the road changed,

811
00:24:15,135 --> 00:24:17,103
right? From it, it did narrow a

812
00:24:17,103 --> 00:24:18,104
bit. Again, that

813
00:24:18,104 --> 00:24:19,972
s for our new

814
00:24:19,972 --> 00:24:22,875
standards trying to 11 ft lanes

815
00:24:22,875 --> 00:24:24,510
with 8 ft parking, uh, I will

816
00:24:24,510 --> 00:24:25,478
confirm the parking is 8 ft.

817
00:24:25,478 --> 00:24:27,980
From the face of the curve to

818
00:24:27,980 --> 00:24:28,180
the middle of the stripe, so

819
00:24:28,180 --> 00:24:29,983
that

820
00:24:29,983 --> 00:24:32,252
s been verified multiple

821
00:24:32,252 --> 00:24:32,618
times, so any concern? That

822
00:24:32,618 --> 00:24:33,586
s

823
00:24:33,586 --> 00:24:36,122
been addressed, um, and then

824
00:24:36,122 --> 00:24:39,359
the 5 ft sidewalk we put in, uh,

825
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,959
to have a, a complete sidewalk

826
00:24:45,310 --> 00:24:46,499
from 494 down to south. Similar

827
00:24:46,499 --> 00:24:47,500
to Congress a cool video to

828
00:24:47,500 --> 00:24:49,900
show again, about 30 seconds

829
00:24:53,673 --> 00:24:54,708
long. Play that now. So I was

830
00:24:54,708 --> 00:24:56,643
traveling southbound on 7th

831
00:24:56,643 --> 00:24:58,110
Avenue South. You can see we

832
00:24:58,110 --> 00:24:59,345
have street lighting, the

833
00:24:59,345 --> 00:25:01,745
11-foot lanes, 8 ft parking,

834
00:25:02,248 --> 00:25:04,510
new curb and gutter. Matched in

835
00:25:04,510 --> 00:25:06,419
all the driveways, um, new

836
00:25:06,419 --> 00:25:09,189
carriage walks for people, um.

837
00:25:09,189 --> 00:25:12,189
Got the new so. Pedestrian

838
00:25:13,250 --> 00:25:13,391
improvements with new curb

839
00:25:13,391 --> 00:25:14,627
ramps, um, so that pretty much

840
00:25:14,627 --> 00:25:15,929
just continues along the hill 5

841
00:25:15,929 --> 00:25:19,499
blocks of the road. So thank

842
00:25:19,499 --> 00:25:20,133
you to, um, Jacob Steiner, our

843
00:25:20,133 --> 00:25:20,667
communications coordinator for

844
00:25:20,667 --> 00:25:20,934
for filming this. It

845
00:25:20,934 --> 00:25:22,934
s nice to

846
00:25:29,776 --> 00:25:32,776
have. Sorry about that. Oops

847
00:25:35,415 --> 00:25:38,415
Sorry, ok. Oops, sorry about

848
00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:42,489
that. Try this again. Ok, sorry,

849
00:25:42,489 --> 00:25:44,457
a little glitchy. All right, on

850
00:25:44,457 --> 00:25:46,861
the project cost funding, so,

851
00:25:46,861 --> 00:25:47,560
uh, Project To came in about

852
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:48,795
3.7 million that happy to say

853
00:25:48,795 --> 00:25:51,798
that did come in under budget

854
00:25:51,798 --> 00:25:51,906
as well. Similar to Conquer

855
00:25:51,906 --> 00:25:52,967
s

856
00:25:52,967 --> 00:25:53,199
Change, we pretty fortunately

857
00:25:53,199 --> 00:25:54,334
we didn

858
00:25:54,334 --> 00:25:56,169
t run into any

859
00:25:56,169 --> 00:25:57,738
unforeseen conditions. We had

860
00:25:57,738 --> 00:25:59,600
good soils, no real, you know,

861
00:25:59,600 --> 00:25:59,108
issues. A lot of times they

862
00:25:59,108 --> 00:26:00,730
ll

863
00:26:00,730 --> 00:26:00,974
run into sub-grade issues. You

864
00:26:00,974 --> 00:26:01,141
just, you never know what

865
00:26:01,141 --> 00:26:01,809
you

866
00:26:01,809 --> 00:26:01,976
re gonna get into when

867
00:26:01,976 --> 00:26:02,509
you

868
00:26:02,509 --> 00:26:02,809
re, when you

869
00:26:02,809 --> 00:26:04,745
re

870
00:26:04,745 --> 00:26:06,213
constructing a road, so we got

871
00:26:06,213 --> 00:26:07,281
pretty fortunate with that. Uh,

872
00:26:07,281 --> 00:26:10,117
everything went very smooth. Um,

873
00:26:10,117 --> 00:26:11,518
as you can see by the pricing,

874
00:26:11,518 --> 00:26:12,986
uh, everything was, uh, you

875
00:26:12,986 --> 00:26:14,554
know, uh, came in, came in

876
00:26:14,554 --> 00:26:18,154
really good, so really happy to

877
00:26:20,627 --> 00:26:21,662
see that. As far as uh

878
00:26:21,662 --> 00:26:22,730
Assessments are concerned,

879
00:26:22,730 --> 00:26:24,164
again, this is specially

880
00:26:24,164 --> 00:26:24,498
assessed for the city

881
00:26:24,498 --> 00:26:26,498
s

882
00:26:26,934 --> 00:26:29,300
assessment policy, that rate,

883
00:26:29,300 --> 00:26:32,300
uh, is $90.40 per front foot.

884
00:26:33,707 --> 00:26:34,508
Uh, there is a 7 75 ft maximum

885
00:26:34,508 --> 00:26:35,643
accessible for residential

886
00:26:35,643 --> 00:26:37,111
properties. Yeah, if you have a

887
00:26:37,111 --> 00:26:38,580
corner lot, you only get

888
00:26:38,580 --> 00:26:40,181
assessed on the narrow side,

889
00:26:40,181 --> 00:26:42,490
not the long side, and those

890
00:26:42,490 --> 00:26:44,180
are also capped at 5%. Uh, you

891
00:26:44,180 --> 00:26:45,853
can see the table to the right,

892
00:26:45,853 --> 00:26:47,789
kind of what the amounts are,

893
00:26:47,789 --> 00:26:49,230
uh, most of the lots on 79

894
00:26:49,230 --> 00:26:52,623
South or in the 50 to 40 ft

895
00:26:54,695 --> 00:26:56,364
frontage. Payment options have

896
00:26:56,364 --> 00:26:57,731
adopted tonight again they have

897
00:26:57,731 --> 00:27:00,131
30, 30 days from tonight, uh,

898
00:27:00,601 --> 00:27:01,936
which would be DECEMBER 4th, if

899
00:27:01,936 --> 00:27:03,904
adopted to prepay without

900
00:27:03,904 --> 00:27:05,373
interest. If not, that does go

901
00:27:05,373 --> 00:27:06,974
on property taxes over a

902
00:27:06,974 --> 00:27:08,974
10-year period, 5% interest

903
00:27:09,210 --> 00:27:10,845
rate, and, uh, there are

904
00:27:10,845 --> 00:27:13,245
different options available if

905
00:27:13,381 --> 00:27:14,582
anyone does qualify, uh, senior

906
00:27:14,582 --> 00:27:15,516
citizens, fixed incomes,

907
00:27:15,516 --> 00:27:17,318
disabled veterans are, are the

908
00:27:17,318 --> 00:27:20,918
kind of the categories if, uh,

909
00:27:20,955 --> 00:27:22,990
for deferrals. Actually seeing

910
00:27:22,990 --> 00:27:26,270
is to hold public hearing and

911
00:27:26,270 --> 00:27:27,620
then to consider resolution

912
00:27:27,620 --> 00:27:29,620
2024-127, adopting the

913
00:27:29,197 --> 00:27:30,731
assessment role for the 7th

914
00:27:30,731 --> 00:27:32,901
himself and I 494 Water main

915
00:27:32,901 --> 00:27:33,301
Improvements Project. Uh, that

916
00:27:33,301 --> 00:27:33,602
concludes staff

917
00:27:33,602 --> 00:27:33,734
s report. I

918
00:27:33,734 --> 00:27:34,502
d

919
00:27:34,502 --> 00:27:36,737
be happy to answer any

920
00:27:36,737 --> 00:27:38,173
questions you MAY have. Thank

921
00:27:38,173 --> 00:27:39,608
you, MR. Williams. This is a

922
00:27:39,608 --> 00:27:42,310
public hearing, so we will open

923
00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:44,579
it up for the public. Anybody

924
00:27:44,579 --> 00:27:45,513
here wish to speak about the

925
00:27:45,513 --> 00:27:47,916
assessment on 7th Avenue South

926
00:27:47,916 --> 00:27:48,817
for the reconstruction. Uh,

927
00:27:48,817 --> 00:27:51,217
this is the opportunities.

928
00:27:52,530 --> 00:27:52,687
Please step forward. We have

929
00:27:52,687 --> 00:27:54,687
questions, comments, or

930
00:28:07,735 --> 00:28:08,303
concerned. Welcome. Hello, um,

931
00:28:08,303 --> 00:28:09,371
I really don

932
00:28:09,371 --> 00:28:11,371
t know anything

933
00:28:13,741 --> 00:28:16,511
about this process, but why?

934
00:28:16,511 --> 00:28:18,747
Thank you. Why isn

935
00:28:18,747 --> 00:28:21,147
t um Why are

936
00:28:21,817 --> 00:28:22,984
you holding a hearing now?

937
00:28:22,984 --> 00:28:25,384
Rather than before the

938
00:28:25,521 --> 00:28:27,356
construction happened. We held

939
00:28:27,356 --> 00:28:28,790
a hearing. I, I think you, I

940
00:28:28,790 --> 00:28:30,158
remember you being here and

941
00:28:30,158 --> 00:28:30,425
speaking at that, right, but

942
00:28:30,425 --> 00:28:32,425
now you

943
00:28:34,463 --> 00:28:35,697
re Voting on the or

944
00:28:35,697 --> 00:28:36,980
Going to determine the

945
00:28:36,980 --> 00:28:38,980
assessment if it

946
00:28:38,199 --> 00:28:39,301
s Going to

947
00:28:39,301 --> 00:28:42,301
follow through or not follow

948
00:28:43,905 --> 00:28:45,407
through or Yes, that

949
00:28:45,407 --> 00:28:45,520
s, that

950
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,208
s

951
00:28:47,208 --> 00:28:48,811
the process we, we, we hold it

952
00:28:48,811 --> 00:28:50,679
before we let people know we

953
00:28:50,679 --> 00:28:52,810
have the call for the bids, we

954
00:28:52,810 --> 00:28:55,810
bid it. It gets constructed,

955
00:28:55,952 --> 00:28:56,117
and then we assess afterwards.

956
00:28:56,117 --> 00:28:57,860
Isn

957
00:28:57,860 --> 00:28:59,888
t that like putting the

958
00:28:59,888 --> 00:29:01,357
cart before the horse. Well, I

959
00:29:01,357 --> 00:29:03,757
think MR. Williams could

960
00:29:04,827 --> 00:29:05,727
explain that the The formula is

961
00:29:05,727 --> 00:29:07,563
already set, and we talked

962
00:29:07,563 --> 00:29:09,765
about that in the beginning as

963
00:29:09,765 --> 00:29:12,634
I, I think, again, you had some

964
00:29:12,634 --> 00:29:14,570
concerns with that being um. On

965
00:29:14,570 --> 00:29:16,138
a fixed income and homeowner,

966
00:29:16,138 --> 00:29:18,730
correct, all those things, yeah

967
00:29:18,730 --> 00:29:18,941
exactly because it, it almost

968
00:29:18,941 --> 00:29:23,141
feels like we never had a voice.

969
00:29:23,579 --> 00:29:25,140
We had a voice, uh, for the

970
00:29:25,140 --> 00:29:27,883
levy for the proposed increase

971
00:29:27,883 --> 00:29:31,320
in our taxes for the schooling

972
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,622
uh 1.5% raise in our property

973
00:29:32,622 --> 00:29:33,689
taxes to uh additional funding

974
00:29:33,689 --> 00:29:35,291
for schools, you know, when

975
00:29:35,291 --> 00:29:36,910
they got brand new computers

976
00:29:36,910 --> 00:29:39,910
and everything, we voted on

977
00:29:39,228 --> 00:29:40,963
that. No problem, but this one

978
00:29:40,963 --> 00:29:45,534
I, I feel like we never got a

979
00:29:45,534 --> 00:29:45,935
say in the whole matter. And

980
00:29:45,935 --> 00:29:47,935
Now the work

981
00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:48,270
s been done. But

982
00:29:48,270 --> 00:29:50,270
now you

983
00:29:53,242 --> 00:29:55,278
re Trying to basically

984
00:29:55,278 --> 00:29:57,646
say now should we charge Each

985
00:29:57,646 --> 00:30:01,183
and every person that lives on

986
00:30:01,183 --> 00:30:01,517
7th Avenue, an assessment. What

987
00:30:01,517 --> 00:30:03,517
if it doesn

988
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,588
t pass or I guess,

989
00:30:05,588 --> 00:30:09,788
is there a chance of it not

990
00:30:10,460 --> 00:30:10,860
passing. I, I, I don

991
00:30:10,860 --> 00:30:12,195
t

992
00:30:12,195 --> 00:30:14,731
understand the reasoning or the

993
00:30:14,731 --> 00:30:15,898
why for here because It feels

994
00:30:15,898 --> 00:30:18,701
like we never had a vote in the

995
00:30:18,701 --> 00:30:18,828
whole matter. Or we weren

996
00:30:18,828 --> 00:30:20,828
t

997
00:30:22,538 --> 00:30:23,840
hurt. You, Your Honor,

998
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,840
COUNCILMAN Sberg, you bring up

999
00:30:27,898 --> 00:30:28,580
good points. I understand where

1000
00:30:28,580 --> 00:30:28,167
you

1001
00:30:28,167 --> 00:30:28,778
re coming from, but

1002
00:30:28,778 --> 00:30:31,178
individual street projects do

1003
00:30:32,148 --> 00:30:32,348
not go towards a citywide vote.

1004
00:30:32,348 --> 00:30:32,849
That

1005
00:30:32,849 --> 00:30:33,490
s not good government.

1006
00:30:33,490 --> 00:30:35,490
That

1007
00:30:36,219 --> 00:30:38,619
s Pushing off our

1008
00:30:39,523 --> 00:30:41,240
responsibility to fix up our

1009
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,959
infrastructure to a popular

1010
00:30:42,959 --> 00:30:44,461
opinion at the time. Nobody

1011
00:30:44,461 --> 00:30:47,230
wants to pay for anything. The

1012
00:30:47,230 --> 00:30:49,132
first option is free. As you

1013
00:30:49,132 --> 00:30:51,568
looked at the breakdown, the

1014
00:30:51,568 --> 00:30:53,503
community as a whole is paying

1015
00:30:53,503 --> 00:30:54,538
for the overwhelming part of

1016
00:30:54,538 --> 00:30:54,972
this project. It

1017
00:30:54,972 --> 00:30:56,972
s important

1018
00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,309
for us to provide good, safe

1019
00:30:59,309 --> 00:31:00,344
city streets. In addition to

1020
00:31:00,344 --> 00:31:02,245
that, it

1021
00:31:02,245 --> 00:31:04,714
s important for you to

1022
00:31:04,714 --> 00:31:07,510
have adequate water and

1023
00:31:07,510 --> 00:31:07,817
sanitary service to your curb

1024
00:31:07,817 --> 00:31:08,685
light. That

1025
00:31:08,685 --> 00:31:09,152
s not a votable

1026
00:31:09,152 --> 00:31:10,987
thing. That

1027
00:31:10,987 --> 00:31:12,389
s not like a levy

1028
00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:12,656
where you get to say, yeah, you

1029
00:31:12,656 --> 00:31:13,490
know, we

1030
00:31:13,490 --> 00:31:15,250
re going to put that

1031
00:31:15,250 --> 00:31:15,292
in front of everybody in the

1032
00:31:15,292 --> 00:31:17,292
city. We

1033
00:31:18,128 --> 00:31:20,528
re going to redo. 5

1034
00:31:21,131 --> 00:31:24,468
blocks of 7th Avenue South from

1035
00:31:24,468 --> 00:31:26,370
494 to South Street. So your

1036
00:31:26,370 --> 00:31:26,970
vote in this matter and the

1037
00:31:26,970 --> 00:31:27,538
reason we

1038
00:31:27,538 --> 00:31:27,838
re certifying this is

1039
00:31:27,838 --> 00:31:29,838
because it

1040
00:31:29,907 --> 00:31:31,875
s got to go on the

1041
00:31:31,875 --> 00:31:33,677
tax rolls to either be

1042
00:31:33,677 --> 00:31:35,379
collected over the next 10

1043
00:31:35,379 --> 00:31:38,480
years at a 5% interest rate,

1044
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,418
which is a good interest rate,

1045
00:31:40,418 --> 00:31:44,354
or if you qualify for a senior

1046
00:31:44,354 --> 00:31:45,356
deferral or a fixed income

1047
00:31:45,356 --> 00:31:47,491
deferral or disability deferral

1048
00:31:47,491 --> 00:31:50,491
that ball starts. Rolling this

1049
00:31:50,727 --> 00:31:51,862
evening, so There, you MAY have

1050
00:31:51,862 --> 00:31:52,964
a difference of opinion on

1051
00:31:52,964 --> 00:31:56,433
whether we should do a street

1052
00:31:56,433 --> 00:31:56,568
or not, and we do care. We

1053
00:31:56,568 --> 00:31:58,568
ve

1054
00:31:58,869 --> 00:31:59,700
delayed street projects. Which

1055
00:31:59,700 --> 00:31:59,837
hasn

1056
00:31:59,837 --> 00:32:00,804
t been the smartest thing

1057
00:32:00,804 --> 00:32:02,305
to do because we get a room

1058
00:32:02,305 --> 00:32:02,639
full of folks. Well, this

1059
00:32:02,639 --> 00:32:03,641
street doesn

1060
00:32:03,641 --> 00:32:04,976
t need to be done.

1061
00:32:04,976 --> 00:32:05,115
Well, the price doesn

1062
00:32:05,115 --> 00:32:07,115
t

1063
00:32:07,912 --> 00:32:11,512
generally go down. It goes up.

1064
00:32:11,782 --> 00:32:13,317
And we try to set a fair amount

1065
00:32:13,317 --> 00:32:15,719
on the front footage that

1066
00:32:15,719 --> 00:32:17,554
covers a portion of the cost

1067
00:32:17,554 --> 00:32:20,991
that is set in the state

1068
00:32:20,991 --> 00:32:22,560
statutes. You can, you have

1069
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:22,960
every right to contest that

1070
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:23,660
what we

1071
00:32:23,660 --> 00:32:25,863
re charging is not what

1072
00:32:25,863 --> 00:32:26,300
you got. In other words, if you

1073
00:32:26,300 --> 00:32:28,300
don

1074
00:32:28,266 --> 00:32:30,167
t think the value of your

1075
00:32:30,167 --> 00:32:30,334
home went up by the amount

1076
00:32:30,334 --> 00:32:31,869
you

1077
00:32:31,869 --> 00:32:33,300
re being assessed, you can

1078
00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:34,572
challenge that. You have every

1079
00:32:34,572 --> 00:32:34,872
right to do that. It

1080
00:32:34,872 --> 00:32:37,272
s up to us.

1081
00:32:39,176 --> 00:32:42,313
To only assess what we believe

1082
00:32:42,313 --> 00:32:42,513
the value of the homes went up.

1083
00:32:42,513 --> 00:32:43,815
That

1084
00:32:43,815 --> 00:32:43,982
s our responsibility, so

1085
00:32:43,982 --> 00:32:44,282
we

1086
00:32:44,282 --> 00:32:46,250
re not, we

1087
00:32:46,250 --> 00:32:48,552
re not trying to

1088
00:32:48,552 --> 00:32:50,455
do anything sneaky, but if we

1089
00:32:50,455 --> 00:32:51,455
literally voted on every street

1090
00:32:51,455 --> 00:32:52,557
project in the community.

1091
00:32:52,557 --> 00:32:56,157
Hardly any of them would get

1092
00:32:57,161 --> 00:32:59,561
accomplished. Because again, or

1093
00:33:00,650 --> 00:33:02,734
If the city paid the entire

1094
00:33:02,734 --> 00:33:04,736
cost of every street project.

1095
00:33:04,736 --> 00:33:06,171
The amount of assessments on

1096
00:33:06,171 --> 00:33:09,171
this project that get assessed

1097
00:33:09,473 --> 00:33:13,730
back to the homeowner is what,

1098
00:33:17,248 --> 00:33:18,283
4 462. What was it???????

1099
00:33:18,283 --> 00:33:20,283
4,621,462,000. If we added

1100
00:33:21,485 --> 00:33:23,885
462,000 to the general levy.

1101
00:33:26,324 --> 00:33:27,992
Either in this year or in 2025

1102
00:33:27,992 --> 00:33:28,192
to pay this, everybody

1103
00:33:28,192 --> 00:33:30,192
s taxes

1104
00:33:30,362 --> 00:33:31,629
would go up in the finance

1105
00:33:31,629 --> 00:33:33,898
director just left. My best

1106
00:33:33,898 --> 00:33:35,200
guess. And don

1107
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,234
t quote me on

1108
00:33:36,234 --> 00:33:36,668
Facebook on this because that

1109
00:33:36,668 --> 00:33:38,668
s

1110
00:33:39,471 --> 00:33:42,471
what the finance persons for

1111
00:33:43,475 --> 00:33:47,750
would be over 5%. So we don

1112
00:33:47,527 --> 00:33:47,678
t

1113
00:33:47,678 --> 00:33:47,790
have the luxury of paying for

1114
00:33:47,790 --> 00:33:49,314
all street assessments or

1115
00:33:49,314 --> 00:33:52,914
paying for the entire cost of

1116
00:33:53,180 --> 00:33:55,553
every street project. The the

1117
00:33:55,553 --> 00:33:58,553
water services in the street.

1118
00:33:58,623 --> 00:33:58,824
Is paid by you and me. The

1119
00:33:58,824 --> 00:34:00,125
city

1120
00:34:00,125 --> 00:34:01,660
s portion of the street is

1121
00:34:01,660 --> 00:34:03,963
paid by you and me and

1122
00:34:03,963 --> 00:34:04,562
everybody that lives in the

1123
00:34:04,562 --> 00:34:06,432
community that

1124
00:34:06,432 --> 00:34:07,933
s not assessed,

1125
00:34:07,933 --> 00:34:09,735
so street assessment hearings

1126
00:34:09,735 --> 00:34:10,435
are always the hardest hearings

1127
00:34:10,435 --> 00:34:11,703
for us because we

1128
00:34:11,703 --> 00:34:13,703
re asking

1129
00:34:14,106 --> 00:34:14,573
people to pay money. What we

1130
00:34:14,573 --> 00:34:16,410
ve

1131
00:34:16,410 --> 00:34:17,542
consistently tried to do

1132
00:34:17,542 --> 00:34:18,444
through the time I

1133
00:34:18,444 --> 00:34:20,444
ve been here

1134
00:34:21,380 --> 00:34:21,947
is treat them all the same so

1135
00:34:21,947 --> 00:34:23,181
nobody gets preferential

1136
00:34:23,181 --> 00:34:24,717
treatment. We

1137
00:34:24,717 --> 00:34:25,218
re all paying a

1138
00:34:25,218 --> 00:34:27,520
portion of everybody

1139
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,520
s street.

1140
00:34:29,988 --> 00:34:30,990
The the project before yours

1141
00:34:30,990 --> 00:34:32,958
was concrete exchange. You paid

1142
00:34:32,958 --> 00:34:33,325
for a part of that. You

1143
00:34:33,325 --> 00:34:34,360
re not

1144
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,260
getting assessed on that

1145
00:34:35,260 --> 00:34:36,262
yourself where you

1146
00:34:36,262 --> 00:34:37,796
re writing a

1147
00:34:37,796 --> 00:34:39,164
check every month. But through

1148
00:34:39,164 --> 00:34:41,300
your property taxes, you paid a

1149
00:34:41,300 --> 00:34:43,200
portion of that. You paid a

1150
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,603
portion of 5th Avenue. The

1151
00:34:44,603 --> 00:34:46,372
people on 5th Avenue are paying

1152
00:34:46,372 --> 00:34:47,500
a portion of the 7th Avenue

1153
00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:48,507
Street. It

1154
00:34:48,507 --> 00:34:50,907
s always been our

1155
00:34:51,243 --> 00:34:53,245
thinking that all of the public

1156
00:34:53,245 --> 00:34:54,613
streets are truly public and we

1157
00:34:54,613 --> 00:34:57,817
all have an investment that we

1158
00:34:57,817 --> 00:35:00,753
need to make. In that

1159
00:35:00,753 --> 00:35:01,721
infrastructure to keep our

1160
00:35:01,721 --> 00:35:03,255
streets workable and travelable

1161
00:35:03,255 --> 00:35:05,591
to keep our sidewalks in good

1162
00:35:05,591 --> 00:35:07,590
condition, but more importantly

1163
00:35:07,590 --> 00:35:10,329
for us to make sure that when

1164
00:35:10,329 --> 00:35:12,598
it rains, The water drains and

1165
00:35:12,598 --> 00:35:14,633
it goes someplace. And when you

1166
00:35:14,633 --> 00:35:14,735
turn on your tap, You

1167
00:35:14,735 --> 00:35:16,536
re

1168
00:35:16,536 --> 00:35:19,105
getting water that comes out of

1169
00:35:19,105 --> 00:35:19,439
your tap, and believe me, we

1170
00:35:19,439 --> 00:35:21,400
ve

1171
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,275
run the numbers countless times

1172
00:35:22,275 --> 00:35:25,111
over the years. If we can

1173
00:35:25,111 --> 00:35:25,218
afford to pay for everybody

1174
00:35:25,218 --> 00:35:27,218
s

1175
00:35:27,413 --> 00:35:29,813
street projects entirely. We

1176
00:35:29,882 --> 00:35:30,316
would love to do that, but it

1177
00:35:30,316 --> 00:35:31,951
s

1178
00:35:31,951 --> 00:35:34,220
not necessarily the fairest and

1179
00:35:34,220 --> 00:35:34,788
most equitable way to do it. So

1180
00:35:34,788 --> 00:35:35,622
I hear what you

1181
00:35:35,622 --> 00:35:37,622
re saying. I

1182
00:35:38,158 --> 00:35:39,993
appreciate you coming here. The

1183
00:35:39,993 --> 00:35:42,993
only thing that uh leftover

1184
00:35:43,997 --> 00:35:44,798
thing that I have is When I

1185
00:35:44,798 --> 00:35:46,933
turned the faucet on, water

1186
00:35:46,933 --> 00:35:50,533
came out. When I flush the

1187
00:35:52,205 --> 00:35:53,306
toilet. It went down, um. To my

1188
00:35:53,306 --> 00:35:53,440
knowledge, there wasn

1189
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,440
t a

1190
00:35:58,778 --> 00:36:01,514
problem. I know that the street

1191
00:36:01,514 --> 00:36:04,514
itself looked. Hideous. To say

1192
00:36:11,191 --> 00:36:13,727
the least. Basically He gave

1193
00:36:13,727 --> 00:36:14,294
the street a facelift. We read

1194
00:36:14,294 --> 00:36:15,662
no, that

1195
00:36:15,662 --> 00:36:16,863
s not true though. If

1196
00:36:16,863 --> 00:36:17,630
I might point that out, we

1197
00:36:17,630 --> 00:36:19,630
didn

1198
00:36:19,132 --> 00:36:22,350
t give the street a

1199
00:36:22,350 --> 00:36:23,300
facelift. We gave him an

1200
00:36:23,300 --> 00:36:23,937
extensive rebuild that

1201
00:36:23,937 --> 00:36:25,937
s going

1202
00:36:25,972 --> 00:36:28,775
to last another 25 years, that

1203
00:36:28,775 --> 00:36:30,770
water main that was under there

1204
00:36:30,770 --> 00:36:30,277
was 84 years old. It

1205
00:36:30,277 --> 00:36:32,277
s like

1206
00:36:32,579 --> 00:36:35,282
your house. How long does your

1207
00:36:35,282 --> 00:36:37,250
roof last? I

1208
00:36:37,250 --> 00:36:39,153
m asking you about

1209
00:36:39,153 --> 00:36:40,220
Can you put it off another 2

1210
00:36:40,220 --> 00:36:42,560
years of times are tough. Sure

1211
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:42,222
you can, but then what happens?

1212
00:36:42,222 --> 00:36:43,223
It

1213
00:36:43,223 --> 00:36:47,194
s got to be done at some

1214
00:36:47,194 --> 00:36:47,394
point, right? And it generally

1215
00:36:47,394 --> 00:36:49,394
Doesn

1216
00:36:49,729 --> 00:36:51,198
t get any less expensive.

1217
00:36:51,198 --> 00:36:51,398
Understandably so but there

1218
00:36:51,398 --> 00:36:53,133
wasn

1219
00:36:53,133 --> 00:36:54,101
t a problem. There was a

1220
00:36:54,101 --> 00:36:56,103
huge problem with that street.

1221
00:36:56,103 --> 00:36:57,972
It was laid out in the

1222
00:36:57,972 --> 00:36:58,905
presentation and in the public

1223
00:36:58,905 --> 00:37:00,841
hearings six months ago about

1224
00:37:00,841 --> 00:37:02,509
the sewer system and the water

1225
00:37:02,509 --> 00:37:03,744
system. There was no, it was

1226
00:37:03,744 --> 00:37:04,811
televised. There was a

1227
00:37:04,811 --> 00:37:06,380
challenge with the water and

1228
00:37:06,380 --> 00:37:07,714
sewer system. It was being

1229
00:37:07,714 --> 00:37:09,183
degraded and it was going to

1230
00:37:09,183 --> 00:37:10,550
start to leak. We

1231
00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:12,152
ve had

1232
00:37:12,152 --> 00:37:13,954
multiple water main breaks

1233
00:37:13,954 --> 00:37:15,423
coming under 494 and in the

1234
00:37:15,423 --> 00:37:16,456
south end of town that had to

1235
00:37:16,456 --> 00:37:16,589
be addressed. We just couldn

1236
00:37:16,589 --> 00:37:18,589
t

1237
00:37:18,659 --> 00:37:21,195
put it off any longer because

1238
00:37:21,195 --> 00:37:23,130
your taxes and my taxes, pay

1239
00:37:23,130 --> 00:37:24,331
for the water department to fix

1240
00:37:24,331 --> 00:37:24,665
those water main breaks every

1241
00:37:24,665 --> 00:37:26,533
time there

1242
00:37:26,533 --> 00:37:28,933
s a water main

1243
00:37:29,403 --> 00:37:30,604
breaks at a certain point it

1244
00:37:30,604 --> 00:37:31,639
becomes more economically

1245
00:37:31,639 --> 00:37:34,800
feasible for everybody that

1246
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,944
lives in this community. To

1247
00:37:36,944 --> 00:37:38,813
redo a street where you have

1248
00:37:38,813 --> 00:37:39,747
multiple challenges instead of

1249
00:37:39,747 --> 00:37:41,749
patching it with asphalt,

1250
00:37:41,749 --> 00:37:43,217
digging up the street to fix a

1251
00:37:43,217 --> 00:37:45,553
water main break, digging up

1252
00:37:45,553 --> 00:37:48,220
the street to fix a sanitary

1253
00:37:48,220 --> 00:37:49,190
sewer break. If I had my way, I

1254
00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:52,190
wish that everything would last

1255
00:37:52,794 --> 00:37:54,762
100 years. It would make our

1256
00:37:54,762 --> 00:37:55,563
Our obligation up here much,

1257
00:37:55,563 --> 00:37:55,730
much simpler and we wouldn

1258
00:37:55,730 --> 00:37:57,730
t

1259
00:37:58,599 --> 00:37:58,800
have to send you a bill, but

1260
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,601
that

1261
00:38:00,601 --> 00:38:03,601
s not reality. To my

1262
00:38:03,938 --> 00:38:04,172
knowledge, the, I think the

1263
00:38:04,172 --> 00:38:06,730
company

1264
00:38:06,730 --> 00:38:08,473
s name was Inogenesis

1265
00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:12,609
or the, the, the sewer guys.

1266
00:38:14,949 --> 00:38:17,551
They lined The sewers From 494

1267
00:38:17,551 --> 00:38:20,688
all the way to South. They were

1268
00:38:20,688 --> 00:38:23,688
just lined. There were no

1269
00:38:25,293 --> 00:38:27,128
actual pipes. Removed From my

1270
00:38:27,128 --> 00:38:28,162
understanding. Now I was out

1271
00:38:28,162 --> 00:38:31,762
there seeing them dig every day.

1272
00:38:32,733 --> 00:38:35,670
Spoke to one of the foremen,

1273
00:38:35,670 --> 00:38:36,704
they said, well, This is almost

1274
00:38:36,704 --> 00:38:38,173
better than replacing the pipes,

1275
00:38:38,173 --> 00:38:38,373
that type of thing. It

1276
00:38:38,373 --> 00:38:40,373
ll last

1277
00:38:43,344 --> 00:38:46,344
another 20 years. And I just

1278
00:38:47,215 --> 00:38:48,716
found it. Pretty interesting

1279
00:38:48,716 --> 00:38:50,180
because the reason why all the

1280
00:38:50,180 --> 00:38:52,587
digging up and everything else,

1281
00:38:52,587 --> 00:38:55,890
I believe. Was because we were

1282
00:38:55,890 --> 00:38:58,526
gonna get New sewer pipes, or

1283
00:38:58,526 --> 00:39:01,496
at least You know, upgraded

1284
00:39:01,496 --> 00:39:05,367
ones, but You know, I saw them

1285
00:39:05,367 --> 00:39:05,868
do the lining and everything.

1286
00:39:05,868 --> 00:39:07,235
So they

1287
00:39:07,235 --> 00:39:09,635
re good for another 20

1288
00:39:10,380 --> 00:39:13,441
more years or so. So if a

1289
00:39:13,441 --> 00:39:16,441
problem happens, Are we looking

1290
00:39:18,147 --> 00:39:18,813
at this all over again? And not

1291
00:39:18,813 --> 00:39:20,215
being cosmetic in front, you

1292
00:39:20,215 --> 00:39:22,170
know, make it look nice because

1293
00:39:22,170 --> 00:39:23,952
it does look great. It looks

1294
00:39:23,952 --> 00:39:24,220
fantastic, you know, 7th Avenue,

1295
00:39:24,220 --> 00:39:25,887
but that

1296
00:39:25,887 --> 00:39:27,323
s not gonna last if

1297
00:39:27,323 --> 00:39:28,323
they continue having semi

1298
00:39:28,323 --> 00:39:29,858
tractor trailer trucks drive

1299
00:39:29,858 --> 00:39:30,825
down the road. Let

1300
00:39:30,825 --> 00:39:31,226
s, let

1301
00:39:31,226 --> 00:39:33,226
s let

1302
00:39:33,762 --> 00:39:35,130
that Nick uh answer the lining

1303
00:39:35,130 --> 00:39:37,650
question? Sure, yeah, Mayorman

1304
00:39:37,650 --> 00:39:38,660
is the council. So sanitary

1305
00:39:38,660 --> 00:39:40,535
sewer lining as opposed to

1306
00:39:40,535 --> 00:39:41,169
water main, you, you can line,

1307
00:39:41,169 --> 00:39:42,438
a sewer. It

1308
00:39:42,438 --> 00:39:42,904
s a, it

1309
00:39:42,904 --> 00:39:44,904
s a process

1310
00:39:45,174 --> 00:39:47,610
called, um, cast in place or

1311
00:39:47,610 --> 00:39:49,440
cured in place, uh, piping, so

1312
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:50,120
it basically ends up being a

1313
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:50,612
brand new pipe when you

1314
00:39:50,612 --> 00:39:52,481
re done.

1315
00:39:52,481 --> 00:39:52,647
So the, the beauty is if it

1316
00:39:52,647 --> 00:39:54,283
s

1317
00:39:54,283 --> 00:39:55,817
in good enough condition is you

1318
00:39:55,817 --> 00:39:56,752
can just line it, which ends up

1319
00:39:56,752 --> 00:40:00,952
being a brand new pipe in the

1320
00:40:01,157 --> 00:40:02,157
end. Basically it gets the same

1321
00:40:02,157 --> 00:40:03,192
useful life you just you get

1322
00:40:03,192 --> 00:40:03,359
more than 20 years out of it,

1323
00:40:03,359 --> 00:40:05,270
we

1324
00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:06,328
ll probably get 50 years out

1325
00:40:06,328 --> 00:40:06,474
of it, um, you know, so there

1326
00:40:06,474 --> 00:40:06,629
s,

1327
00:40:06,629 --> 00:40:07,963
there

1328
00:40:07,963 --> 00:40:09,310
s no need to replace the

1329
00:40:09,310 --> 00:40:10,399
pipe at that point when you can

1330
00:40:10,399 --> 00:40:10,565
light it. Now Waterman, you

1331
00:40:10,565 --> 00:40:11,500
can

1332
00:40:11,500 --> 00:40:13,702
t do that, and the water

1333
00:40:13,702 --> 00:40:14,236
main, has to be fully replaced

1334
00:40:14,236 --> 00:40:15,204
and removed, and that

1335
00:40:15,204 --> 00:40:15,838
s what we

1336
00:40:15,838 --> 00:40:17,673
did in this situation. And

1337
00:40:17,673 --> 00:40:19,641
there was a history of water

1338
00:40:19,641 --> 00:40:20,142
main breaks through that

1339
00:40:20,142 --> 00:40:20,643
corridor and that

1340
00:40:20,643 --> 00:40:22,544
s the reason

1341
00:40:22,544 --> 00:40:23,979
why we, we needed to replace

1342
00:40:23,979 --> 00:40:25,315
the water main, um, to answer a

1343
00:40:25,315 --> 00:40:27,715
couple more questions, she

1344
00:40:28,284 --> 00:40:30,520
mentioned, um. Is we during the

1345
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,540
assessment process, we have a

1346
00:40:31,540 --> 00:40:31,160
feasibility study that that

1347
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,989
s

1348
00:40:32,989 --> 00:40:34,923
done and a public improvement

1349
00:40:34,923 --> 00:40:35,190
hearing at that hearing,

1350
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:36,392
everyone

1351
00:40:36,392 --> 00:40:38,227
s kind of told what

1352
00:40:38,227 --> 00:40:40,627
the preliminary assessment role

1353
00:40:40,663 --> 00:40:41,597
will be. So that was presented

1354
00:40:41,597 --> 00:40:44,320
at that public hearing, and

1355
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,134
everyone got a notice of what

1356
00:40:45,134 --> 00:40:47,534
the proposed assessment would

1357
00:40:47,536 --> 00:40:47,904
be, so this is really not new

1358
00:40:47,904 --> 00:40:48,170
information we

1359
00:40:48,170 --> 00:40:48,504
re providing

1360
00:40:48,504 --> 00:40:49,405
tonight. It

1361
00:40:49,405 --> 00:40:51,374
s just kind of the

1362
00:40:51,374 --> 00:40:52,776
formality of the assessment,

1363
00:40:52,776 --> 00:40:54,210
adopting it, um, and then we

1364
00:40:54,210 --> 00:40:55,440
also presented that at at the

1365
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:55,545
uh neighborhood meeting, which

1366
00:40:55,545 --> 00:40:55,946
I, I know you

1367
00:40:55,946 --> 00:40:58,346
re at, we present.

1368
00:40:58,348 --> 00:40:59,615
That kind of assessment

1369
00:40:59,615 --> 00:41:00,616
discussion at that as well. So

1370
00:41:00,616 --> 00:41:02,520
i just wanted to let the

1371
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,520
council know about that. Your

1372
00:41:05,588 --> 00:41:09,188
Honor, just just I could ask.

1373
00:41:09,592 --> 00:41:10,226
Council Please, by officially

1374
00:41:10,226 --> 00:41:12,626
adopting the assessment, it

1375
00:41:13,290 --> 00:41:15,431
gives Residents who are being

1376
00:41:15,431 --> 00:41:16,399
assessed, it starts the time

1377
00:41:16,399 --> 00:41:18,799
clock on contesting the

1378
00:41:19,803 --> 00:41:20,300
assessment, does it not? So

1379
00:41:20,300 --> 00:41:22,300
that

1380
00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:24,273
s part of the formal

1381
00:41:24,273 --> 00:41:24,380
process too, and Again, there

1382
00:41:24,380 --> 00:41:25,709
s

1383
00:41:25,709 --> 00:41:26,176
no hard feelings if you don

1384
00:41:26,176 --> 00:41:26,676
t

1385
00:41:26,676 --> 00:41:27,176
believe that you

1386
00:41:27,176 --> 00:41:27,477
re getting

1387
00:41:27,477 --> 00:41:28,779
your money

1388
00:41:28,779 --> 00:41:31,779
s worth out of this

1389
00:41:33,116 --> 00:41:34,618
project, you can pursue that.

1390
00:41:34,618 --> 00:41:36,619
The only difference I see was

1391
00:41:36,619 --> 00:41:37,520
that what was said at the

1392
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,755
preliminary meetings like you

1393
00:41:38,755 --> 00:41:40,891
were stating and everything as

1394
00:41:40,891 --> 00:41:45,910
far as uh And what we were

1395
00:41:46,796 --> 00:41:49,796
presented with. The main reason

1396
00:41:50,670 --> 00:41:53,670
Was to replace 85 year old

1397
00:41:53,337 --> 00:41:56,273
pipes. That was the crux of the

1398
00:41:56,273 --> 00:41:57,607
meeting to replace 85 year old

1399
00:41:57,607 --> 00:41:59,143
pipes after Inogenesis did

1400
00:41:59,143 --> 00:42:01,144
their evaluation and they put

1401
00:42:01,144 --> 00:42:01,845
the, the, the camera, the

1402
00:42:01,845 --> 00:42:04,245
microscopic camera through the

1403
00:42:05,449 --> 00:42:06,383
tube and everything. One of the

1404
00:42:06,383 --> 00:42:08,719
foremans kind of stood up and

1405
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:09,452
said, why do we want to create

1406
00:42:09,452 --> 00:42:13,190
a problem when we can take care

1407
00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:13,690
of it this way. And that

1408
00:42:13,690 --> 00:42:15,326
s when

1409
00:42:15,326 --> 00:42:16,726
the lining came into play and

1410
00:42:16,726 --> 00:42:16,838
everything else and I don

1411
00:42:16,838 --> 00:42:18,838
t

1412
00:42:20,531 --> 00:42:22,132
know Much about uh, you know,

1413
00:42:22,132 --> 00:42:22,299
lining or this or that or. I

1414
00:42:22,299 --> 00:42:24,299
don

1415
00:42:25,202 --> 00:42:28,802
t know, but What I was

1416
00:42:28,872 --> 00:42:30,474
expecting and what I was.

1417
00:42:30,474 --> 00:42:31,842
Believing what would happen was

1418
00:42:31,842 --> 00:42:33,711
85 year old pipes would be dug

1419
00:42:33,711 --> 00:42:35,780
out of the ground, which is why

1420
00:42:35,780 --> 00:42:38,849
they were going to The massive

1421
00:42:38,849 --> 00:42:43,490
area in front of my house. And

1422
00:42:43,220 --> 00:42:43,553
Replace The sewer pipes,

1423
00:42:43,553 --> 00:42:45,553
because they

1424
00:42:46,456 --> 00:42:46,924
re 85 years old.

1425
00:42:46,924 --> 00:42:47,958
That didn

1426
00:42:47,958 --> 00:42:50,358
t happen. They lined

1427
00:42:51,896 --> 00:42:52,896
the sewer. I don

1428
00:42:52,896 --> 00:42:53,898
t know about

1429
00:42:53,898 --> 00:42:54,231
the newer technology. I don

1430
00:42:54,231 --> 00:42:56,231
t

1431
00:42:56,734 --> 00:42:58,769
know about anything else and it

1432
00:42:58,769 --> 00:43:01,390
probably is going to be ok, but

1433
00:43:01,390 --> 00:43:04,750
what was said at this other

1434
00:43:04,750 --> 00:43:04,274
meeting was not what happened.

1435
00:43:04,274 --> 00:43:04,508
That

1436
00:43:04,508 --> 00:43:06,508
s what I

1437
00:43:07,511 --> 00:43:09,180
m getting at. And

1438
00:43:09,180 --> 00:43:11,882
for residents like myself that

1439
00:43:11,882 --> 00:43:12,483
saw every single day. The

1440
00:43:12,483 --> 00:43:14,483
construction and everything

1441
00:43:15,753 --> 00:43:17,889
moving along with it. I felt

1442
00:43:17,889 --> 00:43:18,890
kind of helpless. Because I

1443
00:43:18,890 --> 00:43:18,589
didn

1444
00:43:18,589 --> 00:43:21,589
t know exactly what was

1445
00:43:24,529 --> 00:43:25,729
going on. Sure. And um MR.

1446
00:43:25,729 --> 00:43:27,832
Williams, uh, you had mentioned

1447
00:43:27,832 --> 00:43:29,233
that there was a reduction in

1448
00:43:29,233 --> 00:43:31,536
cost would that anything to do

1449
00:43:31,536 --> 00:43:33,838
with uh the The lining of the

1450
00:43:33,838 --> 00:43:35,806
pipes. I know we were under

1451
00:43:35,806 --> 00:43:37,808
budget by the foreman told me

1452
00:43:37,808 --> 00:43:41,979
that too at at right after they

1453
00:43:41,979 --> 00:43:43,114
put the micro uh or the Scope,

1454
00:43:43,114 --> 00:43:46,114
the scope down and basically

1455
00:43:46,384 --> 00:43:48,186
said, If we started cracking

1456
00:43:48,186 --> 00:43:48,553
into the sewer pipes and

1457
00:43:48,553 --> 00:43:50,553
everything. We

1458
00:43:51,956 --> 00:43:53,591
re gonna put

1459
00:43:53,591 --> 00:43:54,459
Newer technology with older

1460
00:43:54,459 --> 00:43:54,626
receiving pipes and everything,

1461
00:43:54,626 --> 00:43:56,626
we

1462
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:58,596
re gonna cause a problem.

1463
00:43:58,596 --> 00:43:59,263
And that

1464
00:43:59,263 --> 00:44:00,565
s why I understood

1465
00:44:00,565 --> 00:44:02,900
what he was saying, but what

1466
00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:03,968
was said at the meeting and

1467
00:44:03,968 --> 00:44:06,968
then said, and then what

1468
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:09,140
happened? To me, there are two

1469
00:44:09,140 --> 00:44:09,407
different things, and

1470
00:44:09,407 --> 00:44:11,143
somebody

1471
00:44:11,143 --> 00:44:12,978
s got to be aware of

1472
00:44:12,978 --> 00:44:13,612
this. MR. Williams answer that,

1473
00:44:13,612 --> 00:44:15,313
and then, uh, can

1474
00:44:15,313 --> 00:44:16,715
t remember.

1475
00:44:16,715 --> 00:44:18,783
Yeah, mayor and members of the

1476
00:44:18,783 --> 00:44:20,118
council, the plan was to always

1477
00:44:20,118 --> 00:44:21,119
line those sewers, if you look

1478
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:23,554
back at our feasibility stage.

1479
00:44:23,554 --> 00:44:24,589
The plan was to always line the

1480
00:44:24,589 --> 00:44:24,923
sanitary sewer again, there

1481
00:44:24,923 --> 00:44:26,580
s

1482
00:44:26,580 --> 00:44:26,425
no need to replace the pipe

1483
00:44:26,425 --> 00:44:27,192
when it

1484
00:44:27,192 --> 00:44:27,959
s in good enough

1485
00:44:27,959 --> 00:44:29,127
condition where you can line it

1486
00:44:29,127 --> 00:44:31,997
because you end up with a new

1487
00:44:31,997 --> 00:44:33,698
pipe at the end. Um, as far as

1488
00:44:33,698 --> 00:44:35,934
the costs are concerned, um, it

1489
00:44:35,934 --> 00:44:37,335
was always a plan to line it,

1490
00:44:37,335 --> 00:44:38,870
um, the cost reduction you see

1491
00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:41,707
is we have less services that

1492
00:44:41,707 --> 00:44:42,707
we run into. So sometimes we,

1493
00:44:42,707 --> 00:44:44,576
if the services are where the

1494
00:44:44,576 --> 00:44:45,643
water main is, we have to

1495
00:44:45,643 --> 00:44:47,112
replace their service and so

1496
00:44:47,112 --> 00:44:48,179
sometimes that can get costly,

1497
00:44:48,179 --> 00:44:48,513
so we have to assume we

1498
00:44:48,513 --> 00:44:49,548
re

1499
00:44:49,548 --> 00:44:50,480
going to replace so many in

1500
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,516
this case we

1501
00:44:51,516 --> 00:44:52,884
re able to do that

1502
00:44:52,884 --> 00:44:54,285
work without replacing those,

1503
00:44:54,285 --> 00:44:55,454
but the plan was always line it,

1504
00:44:55,454 --> 00:44:56,255
we shared that at the

1505
00:44:56,255 --> 00:44:57,389
neighborhood meeting, we shared

1506
00:44:57,389 --> 00:45:00,389
that in a feasibility study

1507
00:45:00,792 --> 00:45:00,959
that was always the plan. I

1508
00:45:00,959 --> 00:45:02,428
can

1509
00:45:02,428 --> 00:45:03,361
t Hanson and I also think

1510
00:45:03,361 --> 00:45:05,361
that um it

1511
00:45:06,331 --> 00:45:07,799
s a good example. To

1512
00:45:07,799 --> 00:45:09,135
the residents of how we hire

1513
00:45:09,135 --> 00:45:10,569
people to go in and do a

1514
00:45:10,569 --> 00:45:12,104
project, and if they see

1515
00:45:12,104 --> 00:45:13,710
something or some way it can be

1516
00:45:13,710 --> 00:45:13,972
done better. I think that

1517
00:45:13,972 --> 00:45:15,972
s a

1518
00:45:16,508 --> 00:45:17,543
good thing. So even they

1519
00:45:17,543 --> 00:45:18,910
expected something different

1520
00:45:18,910 --> 00:45:21,747
what you got was probably

1521
00:45:21,747 --> 00:45:23,783
better so. I appreciate the

1522
00:45:23,783 --> 00:45:25,350
fact that that our employees

1523
00:45:25,350 --> 00:45:26,652
and the people we hire take the

1524
00:45:26,652 --> 00:45:27,153
time to check that. I

1525
00:45:27,153 --> 00:45:27,587
m, I

1526
00:45:27,587 --> 00:45:29,210
m

1527
00:45:29,210 --> 00:45:30,890
impressed that you were able to

1528
00:45:30,890 --> 00:45:30,856
talk with them and they

1529
00:45:30,856 --> 00:45:31,123
explained it all so I think

1530
00:45:31,123 --> 00:45:33,123
that that

1531
00:45:35,995 --> 00:45:37,763
s great. And if I, if

1532
00:45:37,763 --> 00:45:39,398
I MAY add, um, during

1533
00:45:39,398 --> 00:45:40,332
construction, we, we go above

1534
00:45:40,332 --> 00:45:41,434
and beyond to communicate the

1535
00:45:41,434 --> 00:45:42,502
the items of work that were

1536
00:45:42,502 --> 00:45:42,835
happening. I, I don

1537
00:45:42,835 --> 00:45:44,537
t know if

1538
00:45:44,537 --> 00:45:48,740
you were on the email list that

1539
00:45:48,740 --> 00:45:49,742
Kelsey had sent out weekly, but,

1540
00:45:49,742 --> 00:45:50,676
um, we did communicate um very

1541
00:45:50,676 --> 00:45:51,711
frequently with, with the

1542
00:45:51,711 --> 00:45:53,279
neighborhood to let people know

1543
00:45:53,279 --> 00:45:54,614
what was happening, what to

1544
00:45:54,614 --> 00:45:55,581
expect, all of our contact info

1545
00:45:55,581 --> 00:45:55,694
was there. I think you

1546
00:45:55,694 --> 00:45:57,694
ve

1547
00:45:57,817 --> 00:45:59,385
talked to Tom a few times in

1548
00:45:59,385 --> 00:45:59,619
the field during construction,

1549
00:45:59,619 --> 00:46:00,153
so you

1550
00:46:00,153 --> 00:46:01,320
re kind of aware of what

1551
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,722
was happening. I just wanted to

1552
00:46:02,722 --> 00:46:06,322
make sure you were, you were

1553
00:46:08,861 --> 00:46:12,298
aware of that. Ok. But um Maybe

1554
00:46:12,298 --> 00:46:15,201
just uh And update or advise us,

1555
00:46:15,201 --> 00:46:17,601
you know. The difference

1556
00:46:18,337 --> 00:46:22,537
because uh The yard got torn up.

1557
00:46:22,742 --> 00:46:25,278
My tree roots, the big tree on

1558
00:46:25,278 --> 00:46:28,140
7th Avenue takes up lot of

1559
00:46:28,140 --> 00:46:29,982
space, um, were exposed. They

1560
00:46:29,982 --> 00:46:30,870
put side on it, but uh I don

1561
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:30,550
t

1562
00:46:30,550 --> 00:46:30,917
know if that

1563
00:46:30,917 --> 00:46:33,317
s going to catch

1564
00:46:34,221 --> 00:46:35,221
in. There

1565
00:46:35,221 --> 00:46:37,224
s a possibility of

1566
00:46:37,224 --> 00:46:39,659
that huge tree which was there

1567
00:46:39,659 --> 00:46:40,327
since before I was Even moved

1568
00:46:40,327 --> 00:46:40,560
into the place and everything.

1569
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:41,794
I don

1570
00:46:41,794 --> 00:46:42,195
t know if that

1571
00:46:42,195 --> 00:46:43,960
s gonna

1572
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,732
survive because they really did

1573
00:46:45,732 --> 00:46:48,234
cut in. To the property line

1574
00:46:48,234 --> 00:46:48,702
and the root. So I

1575
00:46:48,702 --> 00:46:50,702
m hoping

1576
00:46:51,938 --> 00:46:52,490
that it comes back. But I

1577
00:46:52,490 --> 00:46:53,720
m

1578
00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:54,307
pretty sure that when they were

1579
00:46:54,307 --> 00:46:55,275
cutting and everything, they

1580
00:46:55,275 --> 00:46:57,777
were cutting to replace the

1581
00:46:57,777 --> 00:47:01,377
sewer line. And not just Line

1582
00:47:02,582 --> 00:47:04,582
it. So What

1583
00:47:05,451 --> 00:47:06,953
s your address?

1584
00:47:06,953 --> 00:47:09,890
1120 7th Avenue. So, the

1585
00:47:09,890 --> 00:47:09,289
massive tree in the front yard,

1586
00:47:09,289 --> 00:47:11,289
that

1587
00:47:14,661 --> 00:47:16,530
s my big baby. Ok Thank

1588
00:47:16,530 --> 00:47:18,398
you. Thank you. Thank you for

1589
00:47:18,398 --> 00:47:20,467
coming down. This is a public

1590
00:47:20,467 --> 00:47:22,269
hearing. Anybody here else wish

1591
00:47:22,269 --> 00:47:23,837
to speak on the assessment

1592
00:47:23,837 --> 00:47:24,871
hearing for 7th Avenue South

1593
00:47:24,871 --> 00:47:27,271
Reconstruction. This is the

1594
00:47:28,275 --> 00:47:29,443
time, please step forward. This

1595
00:47:29,443 --> 00:47:32,713
is a public meeting and it is

1596
00:47:32,713 --> 00:47:35,113
open. For public consideration,

1597
00:47:36,550 --> 00:47:37,918
comment. I

1598
00:47:37,918 --> 00:47:39,119
ll ask one more time

1599
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:40,354
if anybody is here that wishes

1600
00:47:40,354 --> 00:47:41,722
to speak again on the

1601
00:47:41,722 --> 00:47:44,122
assessment hearing for 7th

1602
00:47:45,926 --> 00:47:47,926
Avenue South Reconstruction.

1603
00:47:47,994 --> 00:47:50,994
Seeing none a closed public

1604
00:47:51,231 --> 00:47:53,501
hearing. Turn to council for

1605
00:47:53,501 --> 00:47:55,502
questions, Councilor Hansen. Um,

1606
00:47:55,502 --> 00:47:58,706
first of all, I would like to,

1607
00:47:58,706 --> 00:48:00,607
uh, make a motion to approve

1608
00:48:00,607 --> 00:48:01,508
the project number 2023-12.

1609
00:48:01,508 --> 00:48:03,343
Then after that I have

1610
00:48:03,343 --> 00:48:06,343
something else to say. Motion

1611
00:48:07,982 --> 00:48:10,982
by Hansen for approval. 2 by.

1612
00:48:11,185 --> 00:48:13,185
Kalzewski. Further discussion,

1613
00:48:14,722 --> 00:48:16,156
Councillorhansson. I was so

1614
00:48:16,156 --> 00:48:17,324
impressed by how that project

1615
00:48:17,324 --> 00:48:18,226
turned out. If you haven

1616
00:48:18,226 --> 00:48:20,226
t had

1617
00:48:21,950 --> 00:48:22,596
time yet to take a drive down

1618
00:48:22,596 --> 00:48:22,708
7th Avenue South. It

1619
00:48:22,708 --> 00:48:23,965
s

1620
00:48:23,965 --> 00:48:25,365
beautiful. I hope all of our

1621
00:48:25,365 --> 00:48:27,335
streets end up looking like

1622
00:48:27,335 --> 00:48:30,338
that in town because it, they

1623
00:48:30,338 --> 00:48:32,139
did a great job. I heard

1624
00:48:32,139 --> 00:48:33,107
nothing but compliments about

1625
00:48:33,107 --> 00:48:34,742
McNamara, the construction

1626
00:48:34,742 --> 00:48:35,776
company that worked on that,

1627
00:48:35,776 --> 00:48:37,511
and obviously, it, you know,

1628
00:48:37,511 --> 00:48:39,480
just the way they talk to the

1629
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,716
the people that live there,

1630
00:48:41,716 --> 00:48:42,350
they were all more several

1631
00:48:42,350 --> 00:48:44,218
people actually came up and

1632
00:48:44,218 --> 00:48:44,585
told me what. A great job they

1633
00:48:44,585 --> 00:48:45,186
did, and they

1634
00:48:45,186 --> 00:48:45,787
d be out there

1635
00:48:45,787 --> 00:48:46,220
working and they

1636
00:48:46,220 --> 00:48:48,220
d be cleaning

1637
00:48:49,890 --> 00:48:50,157
up, and he said, um, they were

1638
00:48:50,157 --> 00:48:51,960
just very impressed by the

1639
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,270
company that did the work and

1640
00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:56,797
so that makes me feel good that

1641
00:48:56,797 --> 00:48:57,799
we made a good choice and we

1642
00:48:57,799 --> 00:48:59,367
did have some discussion about

1643
00:48:59,367 --> 00:48:59,500
the width of the street, and

1644
00:48:59,500 --> 00:49:00,468
I

1645
00:49:00,468 --> 00:49:03,370
m pleased that it turned out

1646
00:49:03,370 --> 00:49:04,239
very well. That

1647
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,639
s it. Thank you,

1648
00:49:09,143 --> 00:49:09,644
Councilor. Others. I would echo

1649
00:49:09,644 --> 00:49:11,644
Council member Hanson

1650
00:49:12,914 --> 00:49:14,515
s um,

1651
00:49:14,515 --> 00:49:16,617
Comments about the project, um,

1652
00:49:16,617 --> 00:49:18,286
I was not for the sidewalk, um,

1653
00:49:18,286 --> 00:49:19,887
I think I was the only

1654
00:49:19,887 --> 00:49:22,887
dissenting vote for for the

1655
00:49:24,793 --> 00:49:26,828
sidewalk, um. But Like most

1656
00:49:26,828 --> 00:49:27,195
projects, when there

1657
00:49:27,195 --> 00:49:28,597
s a

1658
00:49:28,597 --> 00:49:30,131
dissension and approval. We

1659
00:49:30,131 --> 00:49:32,467
continue to support that and

1660
00:49:32,467 --> 00:49:34,536
having walked that whole strip

1661
00:49:34,536 --> 00:49:36,938
with uh Tom Madigan, who is our

1662
00:49:36,938 --> 00:49:39,338
project superintendent. I, I

1663
00:49:39,541 --> 00:49:41,642
too was impressed at at how it

1664
00:49:41,642 --> 00:49:41,752
turned out and um. Also we

1665
00:49:41,752 --> 00:49:43,440
re

1666
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:43,612
very fortunate in the city of

1667
00:49:43,612 --> 00:49:44,445
South Saint Paul, ma

1668
00:49:44,445 --> 00:49:45,981
am, you,

1669
00:49:45,981 --> 00:49:48,160
you met with Tom and others

1670
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,353
have met with Tom as, as well.

1671
00:49:51,353 --> 00:49:52,554
Uh, he spent An absorbitant

1672
00:49:52,554 --> 00:49:53,788
amount of time making sure

1673
00:49:53,788 --> 00:49:55,824
people were aware of what was

1674
00:49:55,824 --> 00:49:57,258
going on and making sure that

1675
00:49:57,258 --> 00:49:59,360
it was the project came out the

1676
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,730
way it does from designing um

1677
00:50:02,730 --> 00:50:05,134
to Execution to working with

1678
00:50:05,134 --> 00:50:07,536
the contractors and folks I can

1679
00:50:07,536 --> 00:50:09,971
tell you that we are so lucky

1680
00:50:09,971 --> 00:50:10,606
to have Tom on our team for

1681
00:50:10,606 --> 00:50:11,606
your sake, he

1682
00:50:11,606 --> 00:50:13,509
s there to make

1683
00:50:13,509 --> 00:50:14,509
sure that the project gets done

1684
00:50:14,509 --> 00:50:16,478
to the specifications and that

1685
00:50:16,478 --> 00:50:16,812
nothing gets missed and there

1686
00:50:16,812 --> 00:50:18,812
s

1687
00:50:20,182 --> 00:50:20,749
no no things cut corners cut

1688
00:50:20,749 --> 00:50:21,717
and so again we

1689
00:50:21,717 --> 00:50:22,584
re, I

1690
00:50:22,584 --> 00:50:23,585
m very

1691
00:50:23,585 --> 00:50:23,718
impressed at seeing that, um,

1692
00:50:23,718 --> 00:50:25,718
I

1693
00:50:27,322 --> 00:50:29,492
m. More of a fan of sidewalks

1694
00:50:29,492 --> 00:50:32,794
than I was before. I think that

1695
00:50:32,794 --> 00:50:33,795
it turned out. Better than I

1696
00:50:33,795 --> 00:50:36,195
anticipated with a sidewalk,

1697
00:50:36,198 --> 00:50:37,366
and I think it really does help

1698
00:50:37,366 --> 00:50:38,567
our connect our community from

1699
00:50:38,567 --> 00:50:39,670
north to south, and so I

1700
00:50:39,670 --> 00:50:39,177
m, I

1701
00:50:39,177 --> 00:50:40,680
m

1702
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:41,437
impressed with that. So thank

1703
00:50:41,437 --> 00:50:43,605
you, Councilmember Hanson for

1704
00:50:43,605 --> 00:50:45,600
bringing that forward.

1705
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,406
Councilor Bakken, I actually

1706
00:50:47,810 --> 00:50:50,212
have a question and a comment.

1707
00:50:50,212 --> 00:50:51,681
I love the sidewalk, actually,

1708
00:50:51,681 --> 00:50:55,281
um, the track team and the

1709
00:50:55,551 --> 00:50:58,354
cross country team use it a lot

1710
00:50:58,354 --> 00:50:59,989
to run and as we redo a lot of

1711
00:50:59,989 --> 00:51:00,288
the projects in South Saint

1712
00:51:00,288 --> 00:51:02,288
Paul. We

1713
00:51:03,692 --> 00:51:04,126
re an old city. And

1714
00:51:04,126 --> 00:51:04,237
accessibility wasn

1715
00:51:04,237 --> 00:51:05,394
t

1716
00:51:05,394 --> 00:51:07,162
necessarily a thing when we

1717
00:51:07,162 --> 00:51:09,832
were created back in the day.

1718
00:51:09,832 --> 00:51:12,701
So the fact that we have 3 ft

1719
00:51:12,701 --> 00:51:14,503
sidewalks, kids. Anybody

1720
00:51:14,503 --> 00:51:16,705
wheelchairs, they all can get

1721
00:51:16,705 --> 00:51:18,410
down, um, to upper fifty-fifth

1722
00:51:18,410 --> 00:51:19,909
safely. Um, that was a pretty

1723
00:51:19,909 --> 00:51:20,776
wide road to just have

1724
00:51:20,776 --> 00:51:22,311
pedestrians pretty much on the

1725
00:51:22,311 --> 00:51:23,212
street or in people

1726
00:51:23,212 --> 00:51:25,212
s yards. So

1727
00:51:27,450 --> 00:51:27,750
I, I think that um, is, um, I

1728
00:51:27,750 --> 00:51:28,784
think that

1729
00:51:28,784 --> 00:51:30,953
s the prize of it

1730
00:51:30,953 --> 00:51:32,188
all, other than the, the road

1731
00:51:32,188 --> 00:51:34,624
being redone. I do have a

1732
00:51:34,624 --> 00:51:37,260
question, a follow up about the

1733
00:51:37,260 --> 00:51:37,994
trees, um, will people get an

1734
00:51:37,994 --> 00:51:40,997
option to have a tree? You said

1735
00:51:40,997 --> 00:51:41,964
you were going to be contacting

1736
00:51:41,964 --> 00:51:43,265
residents or um, are they, are

1737
00:51:43,265 --> 00:51:46,865
they just going to be planted

1738
00:51:47,300 --> 00:51:47,737
in a certain Sure, uh, Mayor

1739
00:51:47,737 --> 00:51:49,271
mayor and members of the

1740
00:51:49,271 --> 00:51:51,174
council, we will be asking

1741
00:51:51,174 --> 00:51:51,374
people if they want a tree. Now

1742
00:51:51,374 --> 00:51:53,374
they

1743
00:51:54,878 --> 00:51:56,878
re certain. Criteria

1744
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,380
involved if we have private

1745
00:51:58,380 --> 00:52:00,617
utilities or our our water main

1746
00:52:00,617 --> 00:52:00,784
or sewer in the way, then they

1747
00:52:00,784 --> 00:52:02,318
can

1748
00:52:02,318 --> 00:52:03,860
t put a tree there on their

1749
00:52:03,860 --> 00:52:03,620
property. We don

1750
00:52:03,620 --> 00:52:05,540
t want that

1751
00:52:05,540 --> 00:52:06,222
growing into our new pipes, but

1752
00:52:06,222 --> 00:52:08,240
we are giving people the option

1753
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:08,191
if they do want a tree, um,

1754
00:52:08,191 --> 00:52:09,826
we

1755
00:52:09,826 --> 00:52:11,294
ll be reaching out this

1756
00:52:11,294 --> 00:52:12,629
spring and, uh, offering those

1757
00:52:12,629 --> 00:52:14,960
up to people. So they do have

1758
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,960
an option, yes. Perfect. Thank

1759
00:52:21,337 --> 00:52:23,440
you. Others Xinan motion the

1760
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,309
2nd. MS. Werner, please call

1761
00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:28,412
the roll. Council member Pad

1762
00:52:28,412 --> 00:52:30,812
Gorski. Yes, council member

1763
00:52:31,315 --> 00:52:33,715
Thompson. Yes. Council member

1764
00:52:34,500 --> 00:52:36,860
Keleski, council member back in

1765
00:52:36,860 --> 00:52:37,220
Mayor Francis, council member

1766
00:52:37,220 --> 00:52:39,620
Hanson, Council member Curg.

1767
00:52:42,459 --> 00:52:44,394
Yes. 70. Thank you very much.

1768
00:52:44,394 --> 00:52:45,862
Motion is approved. Thank you

1769
00:52:45,862 --> 00:52:47,230
all residents for investing in

1770
00:52:47,230 --> 00:52:49,266
South Saint Paul and uh those

1771
00:52:49,266 --> 00:52:50,330
that worked on that project,

1772
00:52:50,330 --> 00:52:53,330
getting that buttoned up before

1773
00:52:53,236 --> 00:52:54,705
the end of the year. Moving on

1774
00:52:54,705 --> 00:52:57,705
from our public hearings to

1775
00:52:58,410 --> 00:52:58,709
general business. First is a

1776
00:52:58,709 --> 00:52:59,910
preliminary development

1777
00:52:59,910 --> 00:53:02,910
agreement llc at the Hardman

1778
00:53:05,916 --> 00:53:08,180
Triangle Phase one. Doctor

1779
00:53:08,180 --> 00:53:10,487
Garcia, welcome. Thank you. MR.

1780
00:53:10,487 --> 00:53:11,855
Mayor, members of the council,

1781
00:53:11,855 --> 00:53:13,490
uh, item 10a. Tonight we are

1782
00:53:13,490 --> 00:53:14,240
seeking approval of a

1783
00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:16,240
preliminary development

1784
00:53:17,794 --> 00:53:20,364
agreement with That llc or eda

1785
00:53:20,364 --> 00:53:21,131
owned property. At the corner

1786
00:53:21,131 --> 00:53:24,131
of Grand Avenue and Concord

1787
00:53:24,801 --> 00:53:26,736
Street. Um, just a quick

1788
00:53:26,736 --> 00:53:28,500
summary, the agreement is

1789
00:53:28,500 --> 00:53:28,205
enclosed in the in tonight

1790
00:53:28,205 --> 00:53:29,674
s

1791
00:53:29,674 --> 00:53:32,543
packet, uh, but just a quick

1792
00:53:32,543 --> 00:53:34,440
summary of that agreement. This

1793
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:35,446
establishes an exclusive

1794
00:53:35,446 --> 00:53:36,113
relationship between this

1795
00:53:36,113 --> 00:53:39,282
developer and the eda and the

1796
00:53:39,282 --> 00:53:40,217
city. Uh, to explore a

1797
00:53:40,217 --> 00:53:41,319
development opportunity at the

1798
00:53:41,319 --> 00:53:44,319
southwest corner of what we

1799
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:46,490
call the Hardman Triangle. Um

1800
00:53:46,490 --> 00:53:49,360
Key provisions of the agreement,

1801
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,795
the eda in the city for this

1802
00:53:51,795 --> 00:53:53,264
agreement agreed to provide the

1803
00:53:53,264 --> 00:53:55,266
developer with various studies

1804
00:53:55,266 --> 00:53:58,602
and data and reports about the

1805
00:53:58,602 --> 00:53:59,570
conditions impacting the site

1806
00:53:59,570 --> 00:54:01,572
and impacting the development.

1807
00:54:01,572 --> 00:54:02,607
The eda and City agreed to

1808
00:54:02,607 --> 00:54:04,408
identify and evaluate potential

1809
00:54:04,408 --> 00:54:06,343
public costs that might be

1810
00:54:06,343 --> 00:54:08,312
associated with pursuing the

1811
00:54:08,312 --> 00:54:10,247
developments such as new

1812
00:54:10,247 --> 00:54:11,415
streets or utility extensions

1813
00:54:11,415 --> 00:54:13,718
to serve the development and

1814
00:54:13,718 --> 00:54:16,520
the eda and the city agreed to

1815
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,490
negotiate in good faith. Uh,

1816
00:54:18,490 --> 00:54:19,757
the execution of a purchase and

1817
00:54:19,757 --> 00:54:22,157
development agreement or, uh,

1818
00:54:22,226 --> 00:54:24,162
agreements plural. The

1819
00:54:24,162 --> 00:54:26,562
agreement also obligates the

1820
00:54:26,564 --> 00:54:27,532
developer to develop and submit

1821
00:54:27,532 --> 00:54:29,932
development plans for city

1822
00:54:30,350 --> 00:54:31,903
approvals in a timely fashion,

1823
00:54:31,903 --> 00:54:33,710
uh, to conduct their own due

1824
00:54:33,710 --> 00:54:36,410
diligence on the feasibility of

1825
00:54:36,410 --> 00:54:37,842
the development. Uh, to obtain

1826
00:54:37,842 --> 00:54:39,778
financing to complete the

1827
00:54:39,778 --> 00:54:41,279
project, and similarly to

1828
00:54:41,279 --> 00:54:43,180
negotiate in good faith with

1829
00:54:43,180 --> 00:54:43,781
the eda and cities towards the

1830
00:54:43,781 --> 00:54:45,781
purchase and development

1831
00:54:49,353 --> 00:54:51,753
agreement or agreements. A

1832
00:54:51,823 --> 00:54:54,159
couple of other key provisions,

1833
00:54:54,159 --> 00:54:55,660
the agreement itself is

1834
00:54:55,660 --> 00:54:58,300
effective through AUGUST 30th

1835
00:54:58,300 --> 00:55:00,131
of 2025, the developer has

1836
00:55:00,131 --> 00:55:02,100
indicated a desire to uh

1837
00:55:02,100 --> 00:55:05,100
hopefully break ground in the

1838
00:55:05,270 --> 00:55:08,870
late 2nd quarter to early 3rd

1839
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:11,242
quarter of 2025. The agreement

1840
00:55:11,242 --> 00:55:12,311
proposes option payments

1841
00:55:12,311 --> 00:55:14,711
$15,000 due at execution. This

1842
00:55:15,647 --> 00:55:17,215
would, uh, be, uh, not only to

1843
00:55:17,215 --> 00:55:18,984
secure that exclusive right to

1844
00:55:18,984 --> 00:55:20,418
pursue the development of this

1845
00:55:20,418 --> 00:55:22,854
property, but also, uh, to

1846
00:55:22,854 --> 00:55:23,540
cover any of the EDAs or the

1847
00:55:23,540 --> 00:55:24,322
city

1848
00:55:24,322 --> 00:55:25,624
s administrative costs

1849
00:55:25,624 --> 00:55:28,260
that might be associated with

1850
00:55:28,260 --> 00:55:29,160
reviewing this development such

1851
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:29,361
as financial consultants.

1852
00:55:29,361 --> 00:55:30,950
There

1853
00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:30,262
s a master plan that

1854
00:55:30,262 --> 00:55:32,163
we

1855
00:55:32,163 --> 00:55:34,166
re looking at as well on the

1856
00:55:34,166 --> 00:55:34,767
eda agenda tonight, uh, some of

1857
00:55:34,767 --> 00:55:36,767
those other administrative

1858
00:55:39,271 --> 00:55:41,740
costs. In addition to that

1859
00:55:41,740 --> 00:55:43,175
$15,000 if the agreement is not

1860
00:55:43,175 --> 00:55:45,175
terminated before these

1861
00:55:45,544 --> 00:55:47,445
milestone dates additional

1862
00:55:47,445 --> 00:55:49,845
$5000 progress payments to keep

1863
00:55:50,348 --> 00:55:53,284
the site under option are due

1864
00:55:53,284 --> 00:55:56,884
on JANUARY 1st of 25, APRIL 1st

1865
00:55:58,190 --> 00:56:01,190
of 25, and JULY 1st of 25.

1866
00:56:01,193 --> 00:56:02,294
Final point, um, The agreement

1867
00:56:02,294 --> 00:56:04,430
itself does contemplate and

1868
00:56:04,430 --> 00:56:06,432
acknowledge that there MAY be a

1869
00:56:06,432 --> 00:56:08,400
request in the future for

1870
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:09,334
potential financial assistance,

1871
00:56:09,334 --> 00:56:10,703
whether that

1872
00:56:10,703 --> 00:56:12,437
s through various

1873
00:56:12,437 --> 00:56:15,437
grant and loan programs that

1874
00:56:15,674 --> 00:56:17,760
the eda is aware of or through

1875
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:18,443
the establishment of tax

1876
00:56:18,443 --> 00:56:19,478
increment finance district for

1877
00:56:19,478 --> 00:56:21,847
the project. The project, as

1878
00:56:21,847 --> 00:56:23,483
you can see, does propose

1879
00:56:23,483 --> 00:56:25,883
multiple phases of mixed-use

1880
00:56:25,885 --> 00:56:28,885
development, uh, the site is,

1881
00:56:29,555 --> 00:56:30,723
as everybody knows, um. A

1882
00:56:30,723 --> 00:56:33,123
former former industrial campus

1883
00:56:33,458 --> 00:56:35,428
location for Swift and Company,

1884
00:56:35,428 --> 00:56:37,597
uh, meat meat processing, uh,

1885
00:56:37,597 --> 00:56:38,364
and we have encountered some

1886
00:56:38,364 --> 00:56:40,733
underground conditions in our

1887
00:56:40,733 --> 00:56:42,100
due diligence of the site in

1888
00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:43,135
our demolition of the buildings

1889
00:56:43,135 --> 00:56:45,370
that were there previously. Uh,

1890
00:56:45,370 --> 00:56:46,706
so there MAY be a need for some

1891
00:56:46,706 --> 00:56:48,340
of those financial assistance

1892
00:56:48,340 --> 00:56:51,340
programs to To make the

1893
00:56:52,745 --> 00:56:53,513
development a reality. If that

1894
00:56:53,513 --> 00:56:54,713
financial assistance is

1895
00:56:54,713 --> 00:56:56,616
ultimately pursued in the

1896
00:56:56,616 --> 00:56:59,616
future. It would require the

1897
00:57:01,654 --> 00:57:02,388
eda to review and approve, uh,

1898
00:57:02,388 --> 00:57:04,388
development plan confirmation

1899
00:57:04,423 --> 00:57:06,325
again independently through our

1900
00:57:06,325 --> 00:57:07,560
financial consultant of any

1901
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:08,228
financial cost estimates for

1902
00:57:08,228 --> 00:57:10,290
all phases and components of

1903
00:57:10,290 --> 00:57:11,831
the project. And it would

1904
00:57:11,831 --> 00:57:13,566
require its own public hearing

1905
00:57:13,566 --> 00:57:15,402
and review again at a future

1906
00:57:15,402 --> 00:57:16,168
date once some of those terms

1907
00:57:16,168 --> 00:57:18,568
and conditions are, are

1908
00:57:19,906 --> 00:57:21,774
understood. But at this stage

1909
00:57:21,774 --> 00:57:24,377
we are looking for approval, a

1910
00:57:24,377 --> 00:57:25,100
motion to approve a preliminary

1911
00:57:25,100 --> 00:57:27,100
development agreement between

1912
00:57:29,516 --> 00:57:30,216
sas. The city and the eda. Uh,

1913
00:57:30,216 --> 00:57:32,385
which would thereby authorize

1914
00:57:32,385 --> 00:57:34,420
the mayor and the city clerk to

1915
00:57:34,420 --> 00:57:35,121
execute the agreement, subject

1916
00:57:35,121 --> 00:57:35,455
to minor revisions meeting the

1917
00:57:35,455 --> 00:57:36,823
city attorney

1918
00:57:36,823 --> 00:57:38,124
s approval. Happy

1919
00:57:38,124 --> 00:57:40,927
to answer your questions. Thank

1920
00:57:40,927 --> 00:57:42,829
you, MR. Garcia. Very exciting.

1921
00:57:42,829 --> 00:57:45,232
This is, um, can you go back to

1922
00:57:45,232 --> 00:57:46,332
the, the picture and and

1923
00:57:46,332 --> 00:57:47,734
perhaps maybe just go a little

1924
00:57:47,734 --> 00:57:51,334
bit into detail on, on the

1925
00:57:51,605 --> 00:57:53,506
house, yes, and uh what each of

1926
00:57:53,506 --> 00:57:54,541
those would entail just for the,

1927
00:57:54,541 --> 00:57:57,541
for the general public. Thank

1928
00:57:59,345 --> 00:58:00,313
you, yeah, um, the developer is

1929
00:58:00,313 --> 00:58:02,313
11 NOVEMBER 2024 schematic

1930
00:58:03,817 --> 00:58:05,185
concept for the site, uh,

1931
00:58:05,185 --> 00:58:07,554
proposes a building along

1932
00:58:07,554 --> 00:58:08,221
Concord Street. This would be a

1933
00:58:08,221 --> 00:58:10,221
residential building. Market

1934
00:58:11,424 --> 00:58:13,424
rates. Apartment development,

1935
00:58:14,561 --> 00:58:15,195
about 140 to 150 units total.

1936
00:58:15,195 --> 00:58:17,595
With underground parking under

1937
00:58:18,665 --> 00:58:20,330
building parking. Uh The other

1938
00:58:20,330 --> 00:58:21,635
component of that first phase

1939
00:58:21,635 --> 00:58:21,741
of the development as they

1940
00:58:21,741 --> 00:58:23,741
re

1941
00:58:24,571 --> 00:58:26,907
proposing it is about a 30,000

1942
00:58:26,907 --> 00:58:27,641
square foot, what they call

1943
00:58:27,641 --> 00:58:27,941
destination retail, uh, right

1944
00:58:27,941 --> 00:58:29,941
now they

1945
00:58:30,770 --> 00:58:30,577
re working with. A

1946
00:58:30,577 --> 00:58:32,577
group that

1947
00:58:32,946 --> 00:58:33,847
s interested in um

1948
00:58:33,847 --> 00:58:35,847
establishing recreational

1949
00:58:36,283 --> 00:58:37,840
indoor sort of commercial

1950
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,840
recreational indoor pickleball

1951
00:58:39,219 --> 00:58:42,156
facilities so folks could go.

1952
00:58:42,156 --> 00:58:44,900
You know, rent a court and

1953
00:58:44,900 --> 00:58:47,900
joined friends for a friendly

1954
00:58:47,594 --> 00:58:49,994
spirited game of pickleball.

1955
00:58:50,430 --> 00:58:53,700
That concept is also tied to an

1956
00:58:53,700 --> 00:58:54,935
independent um full service

1957
00:58:54,935 --> 00:58:57,935
restaurant which has the number

1958
00:58:58,506 --> 00:59:01,275
4 on the map. On the screen

1959
00:59:01,275 --> 00:59:02,676
should be again about a 300 to

1960
00:59:02,676 --> 00:59:04,445
5000 square foot full service

1961
00:59:04,445 --> 00:59:06,113
restaurant with um with, you

1962
00:59:06,113 --> 00:59:08,513
know, indoor and outdoor

1963
00:59:08,649 --> 00:59:11,649
seating, uh, full kitchen, uh

1964
00:59:11,885 --> 00:59:12,853
bar that would be Really not

1965
00:59:12,853 --> 00:59:13,687
not directly affiliated with

1966
00:59:13,687 --> 00:59:14,922
the destination retail but

1967
00:59:14,922 --> 00:59:17,524
would have some shared service

1968
00:59:17,524 --> 00:59:19,527
opportunities there. Um And

1969
00:59:19,527 --> 00:59:20,495
then uh with number 2, there

1970
00:59:20,495 --> 00:59:21,295
are housing b, that

1971
00:59:21,295 --> 00:59:23,295
s a

1972
00:59:23,730 --> 00:59:24,298
potential future phase of

1973
00:59:24,298 --> 00:59:25,433
additional residential

1974
00:59:25,433 --> 00:59:27,833
development. This schematic is

1975
00:59:28,135 --> 00:59:29,137
still pretty early. We are

1976
00:59:29,137 --> 00:59:31,500
looking at other concepts for

1977
00:59:31,500 --> 00:59:32,973
the site in terms of how it

1978
00:59:32,973 --> 00:59:35,510
would lay out and uh whether

1979
00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:37,678
all of those buildings would

1980
00:59:37,678 --> 00:59:39,313
actually uh work and fit on the

1981
00:59:39,313 --> 00:59:40,715
site, so this is subject to

1982
00:59:40,715 --> 00:59:43,384
some revision again as we get

1983
00:59:43,384 --> 00:59:46,384
into that due diligence process,

1984
00:59:46,554 --> 00:59:47,188
but um this is again the

1985
00:59:47,188 --> 00:59:48,923
preliminary schematic concept

1986
00:59:48,923 --> 00:59:50,458
really anchored by that that

1987
00:59:50,458 --> 00:59:52,393
housing, that first building

1988
00:59:52,393 --> 00:59:52,927
along Concord Street and the

1989
00:59:52,927 --> 00:59:54,895
destination retail and

1990
00:59:54,895 --> 00:59:56,895
restaurant development. Very

1991
00:59:58,132 --> 00:59:58,366
good, thank you. That, that

1992
00:59:58,366 --> 00:59:59,133
shouldn

1993
00:59:59,133 --> 01:00:01,533
t get people excited.

1994
01:00:03,938 --> 01:00:04,873
Um, it should be noted that um.

1995
01:00:04,873 --> 01:00:06,700
Economic development has been

1996
01:00:06,700 --> 01:00:08,407
working on the Hardmann

1997
01:00:09,344 --> 01:00:12,344
Triangle for 7 to 8 years and

1998
01:00:13,448 --> 01:00:14,816
this. Agreement is helping us

1999
01:00:14,816 --> 01:00:17,452
move that forward, that vision

2000
01:00:17,452 --> 01:00:21,520
forward and really is going to,

2001
01:00:21,256 --> 01:00:23,910
I believe, um. Catapult that uh

2002
01:00:23,910 --> 01:00:24,250
piece of property into more

2003
01:00:24,250 --> 01:00:25,626
development New Concord Street,

2004
01:00:25,626 --> 01:00:26,962
New Concord Exchange, great

2005
01:00:26,962 --> 01:00:28,930
opportunities down there. Thank

2006
01:00:28,930 --> 01:00:29,531
you for the presentation.

2007
01:00:29,531 --> 01:00:31,531
Questions, comments from

2008
01:00:34,569 --> 01:00:36,904
council. Motions Your Honor,

2009
01:00:36,904 --> 01:00:39,274
Councilor Sberg, I would so

2010
01:00:39,274 --> 01:00:40,700
move approval. Second, moved to

2011
01:00:40,700 --> 01:00:43,700
approve by Council s Seber,

2012
01:00:43,111 --> 01:00:44,145
seconded by Thompson. Further

2013
01:00:44,145 --> 01:00:44,646
discussion, Councilor Murray

2014
01:00:44,646 --> 01:00:46,130
Thompson, I

2015
01:00:46,130 --> 01:00:47,182
d also like to

2016
01:00:47,182 --> 01:00:49,830
basically echo your statements

2017
01:00:49,830 --> 01:00:50,385
that I think, you know, for the

2018
01:00:50,385 --> 01:00:51,320
public to understand that this

2019
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:52,854
is a really exciting

2020
01:00:52,854 --> 01:00:55,356
opportunity, I think, to get

2021
01:00:55,356 --> 01:00:56,291
the Harbin Triangle to start

2022
01:00:56,291 --> 01:00:57,192
the development that we

2023
01:00:57,192 --> 01:00:57,826
ve been

2024
01:00:57,826 --> 01:01:00,950
talking about for years, you

2025
01:01:00,950 --> 01:01:01,496
know, we have, we have people

2026
01:01:01,496 --> 01:01:02,497
living down there now, and now

2027
01:01:02,497 --> 01:01:02,764
this is another development

2028
01:01:02,764 --> 01:01:04,365
where we

2029
01:01:04,365 --> 01:01:04,866
re, we are looking at

2030
01:01:04,866 --> 01:01:06,668
potentially getting a

2031
01:01:06,668 --> 01:01:08,668
restaurant, uh, retail

2032
01:01:08,770 --> 01:01:10,372
destination, a place for people

2033
01:01:10,372 --> 01:01:11,640
to go. People somewhere where

2034
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,575
people want to go, come into

2035
01:01:13,575 --> 01:01:16,110
South Saint Paul and enjoy

2036
01:01:16,110 --> 01:01:17,612
something and so this is, I

2037
01:01:17,612 --> 01:01:18,914
think, I hope the springboard

2038
01:01:18,914 --> 01:01:20,549
to continue to develop in

2039
01:01:20,549 --> 01:01:20,664
Harbin Triangle, so, um, I

2040
01:01:20,664 --> 01:01:21,283
m

2041
01:01:21,283 --> 01:01:22,818
really looking forward to the

2042
01:01:22,818 --> 01:01:25,218
development of this project.

2043
01:01:29,624 --> 01:01:32,294
Thank you. As am I. Others

2044
01:01:32,294 --> 01:01:33,562
Hearing none We have a motion

2045
01:01:33,562 --> 01:01:35,163
to second, MS. Werner, please

2046
01:01:35,163 --> 01:01:37,299
call the roll. Council member

2047
01:01:37,299 --> 01:01:39,435
Thompson. Yes. Council member

2048
01:01:39,435 --> 01:01:41,503
Kal Zeski, Mayor Francis,

2049
01:01:41,503 --> 01:01:43,239
council member Bakke. Council

2050
01:01:43,239 --> 01:01:45,474
member Hanson, Council member

2051
01:01:45,474 --> 01:01:48,474
Curg, Council member Pat Gorski.

2052
01:01:48,611 --> 01:01:51,611
70. Thank you very much. Motion

2053
01:01:51,714 --> 01:01:54,149
passes. Uh, thank you to, uh,

2054
01:01:54,149 --> 01:01:55,170
Zavvi and te Miller Development

2055
01:01:55,170 --> 01:01:58,617
for um looking to invest in

2056
01:02:00,556 --> 01:02:02,658
South Saint Paul. That does it

2057
01:02:02,658 --> 01:02:04,193
for our Business here tonight,

2058
01:02:04,193 --> 01:02:06,593
our general business. Uh

2059
01:02:08,310 --> 01:02:09,665
council Communications would

2060
01:02:09,665 --> 01:02:09,932
like to start. Can

2061
01:02:09,932 --> 01:02:11,100
t remember

2062
01:02:11,100 --> 01:02:13,200
Kalzewski. Thank you, Your

2063
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:14,937
Honor. Uh, last Thursday,

2064
01:02:14,937 --> 01:02:16,406
Halloween over on Marie Avenue

2065
01:02:16,406 --> 01:02:17,539
was just fantastic. Did anybody

2066
01:02:17,539 --> 01:02:19,842
get a count of how many people

2067
01:02:19,842 --> 01:02:22,211
were there. I guess I made it

2068
01:02:22,211 --> 01:02:23,679
out about 3000 people. There is

2069
01:02:23,679 --> 01:02:25,181
a tremendous crowd there,

2070
01:02:25,181 --> 01:02:27,650
tremendous, uh, great night, a

2071
01:02:27,650 --> 01:02:28,284
little cold but but great night

2072
01:02:28,284 --> 01:02:30,185
and uh everybody had a great

2073
01:02:30,185 --> 01:02:33,185
time. Some great costumes there

2074
01:02:36,592 --> 01:02:37,894
too. And also my lawn service

2075
01:02:37,894 --> 01:02:38,561
note for the communications

2076
01:02:38,561 --> 01:02:39,962
keep those leaves out of the

2077
01:02:39,962 --> 01:02:40,229
street, please use the compost

2078
01:02:40,229 --> 01:02:41,364
site. I

2079
01:02:41,364 --> 01:02:43,633
ve been down there a

2080
01:02:43,633 --> 01:02:45,735
couple of times. That place is

2081
01:02:45,735 --> 01:02:46,269
fantastic. Buck a bag. By big

2082
01:02:46,269 --> 01:02:47,270
banks, it

2083
01:02:47,270 --> 01:02:48,971
s only $1 so it

2084
01:02:48,971 --> 01:02:49,906
s uh.

2085
01:02:49,906 --> 01:02:50,774
Well worth it for everybody

2086
01:02:50,774 --> 01:02:52,909
down there to dump all the

2087
01:02:52,909 --> 01:02:54,644
leaves off. Very good. They can

2088
01:02:54,644 --> 01:02:56,112
find that information on our

2089
01:02:56,112 --> 01:02:57,280
city website and good luck to

2090
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,416
the candidates that are up for

2091
01:03:00,416 --> 01:03:02,319
election, so. Thank you,

2092
01:03:02,319 --> 01:03:04,319
council member. Others?

2093
01:03:05,989 --> 01:03:06,123
Councilor Hanson. Um, first,

2094
01:03:06,123 --> 01:03:08,123
I

2095
01:03:09,359 --> 01:03:11,328
d like to, um, tell everyone

2096
01:03:11,328 --> 01:03:12,795
about Thursday, NOVEMBER 14th,

2097
01:03:12,795 --> 01:03:13,229
which is coming up soon. It

2098
01:03:13,229 --> 01:03:15,229
s

2099
01:03:15,665 --> 01:03:16,666
the South Saint Paul senior

2100
01:03:16,666 --> 01:03:17,133
citizens Thanksgiving dinner,

2101
01:03:17,133 --> 01:03:18,901
so it

2102
01:03:18,901 --> 01:03:20,270
s free for the over 55

2103
01:03:20,270 --> 01:03:20,504
year old group. Sorry, I

2104
01:03:20,504 --> 01:03:22,504
m not

2105
01:03:23,974 --> 01:03:24,141
going to be here to go, but um

2106
01:03:24,141 --> 01:03:25,508
it

2107
01:03:25,508 --> 01:03:26,977
s being sponsored by

2108
01:03:26,977 --> 01:03:28,411
Protouch Wakota Federal Credit

2109
01:03:28,411 --> 01:03:30,213
Union, Lyons, and the partners

2110
01:03:30,213 --> 01:03:33,213
of South Saint Paul School

2111
01:03:33,584 --> 01:03:33,784
District, Boy Scout to 9095 and

2112
01:03:33,784 --> 01:03:35,180
Mayor

2113
01:03:35,180 --> 01:03:36,530
s Youth Task Force. You

2114
01:03:36,530 --> 01:03:37,453
can find more information on

2115
01:03:37,453 --> 01:03:38,880
the website and Facebook if you

2116
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:38,488
need it, but that

2117
01:03:38,488 --> 01:03:39,489
s coming up

2118
01:03:39,489 --> 01:03:41,489
quick. It

2119
01:03:41,825 --> 01:03:42,590
s hard to believe

2120
01:03:42,590 --> 01:03:42,593
that it

2121
01:03:42,593 --> 01:03:43,727
s practically

2122
01:03:43,727 --> 01:03:43,994
Thanksgiving. Um, the other

2123
01:03:43,994 --> 01:03:45,295
thing I

2124
01:03:45,295 --> 01:03:48,295
d like to mention too

2125
01:03:48,298 --> 01:03:49,299
is um council member Kalzowski

2126
01:03:49,299 --> 01:03:52,135
talked about Halloween, so I

2127
01:03:52,135 --> 01:03:54,571
was at the, the event and Marie

2128
01:03:54,571 --> 01:03:55,106
and after was all I went home

2129
01:03:55,106 --> 01:03:56,339
and I decided, well I

2130
01:03:56,339 --> 01:03:58,208
m gonna

2131
01:03:58,208 --> 01:04:00,377
hand out some candy. So I did

2132
01:04:00,377 --> 01:04:02,790
and I have to tell you I was so

2133
01:04:02,790 --> 01:04:04,140
impressed by all the kids who

2134
01:04:04,140 --> 01:04:05,482
came to my door. They were all

2135
01:04:05,482 --> 01:04:07,170
always happy, smiling, and from

2136
01:04:07,170 --> 01:04:10,870
the littlest to the the older

2137
01:04:10,870 --> 01:04:10,221
ones, they were very polite and

2138
01:04:10,221 --> 01:04:12,221
I

2139
01:04:12,289 --> 01:04:13,224
m just impressed by the, the

2140
01:04:13,224 --> 01:04:13,857
kids that came around on

2141
01:04:13,857 --> 01:04:14,658
Halloween, and I

2142
01:04:14,658 --> 01:04:16,658
ve heard that

2143
01:04:17,940 --> 01:04:19,230
from a few other people too, so

2144
01:04:19,230 --> 01:04:20,964
kudos to the kids and

2145
01:04:20,964 --> 01:04:21,532
appreciate them for how great

2146
01:04:21,532 --> 01:04:22,330
they were. Don

2147
01:04:22,330 --> 01:04:22,533
t forget to vote

2148
01:04:22,533 --> 01:04:23,266
tomorrow. That

2149
01:04:23,266 --> 01:04:26,266
s all I can say

2150
01:04:28,439 --> 01:04:29,139
about voting. Thank you Council

2151
01:04:29,139 --> 01:04:30,508
Councilor Podorski, thank you,

2152
01:04:30,508 --> 01:04:33,310
Your Honor. Yeah, I too would

2153
01:04:33,310 --> 01:04:34,378
just like to say um thanks for

2154
01:04:34,378 --> 01:04:35,712
the Halloween event on Marie

2155
01:04:35,712 --> 01:04:37,415
that the city helped sponsor. I

2156
01:04:37,415 --> 01:04:39,830
just want to thank our staff

2157
01:04:39,830 --> 01:04:41,483
and, uh, the volunteer

2158
01:04:41,685 --> 01:04:42,987
businesses, uh, because without

2159
01:04:42,987 --> 01:04:43,688
those businesses and and others

2160
01:04:43,688 --> 01:04:44,540
helping put it together it

2161
01:04:44,540 --> 01:04:44,655
really wouldn

2162
01:04:44,655 --> 01:04:46,858
t be the great

2163
01:04:46,858 --> 01:04:48,292
success, um, that it is so

2164
01:04:48,292 --> 01:04:49,894
great to see, uh, kids and

2165
01:04:49,894 --> 01:04:52,564
family out on a, a little

2166
01:04:52,564 --> 01:04:53,230
chilly night as, uh, council

2167
01:04:53,230 --> 01:04:53,898
member Kalzewski said that we

2168
01:04:53,898 --> 01:04:56,767
were handing out candy together

2169
01:04:56,767 --> 01:04:58,236
for a little while and um It

2170
01:04:58,236 --> 01:04:59,603
was a little chilly at times

2171
01:04:59,603 --> 01:05:01,305
when the wind would pick up,

2172
01:05:01,305 --> 01:05:02,539
but great to see the, the kids

2173
01:05:02,539 --> 01:05:04,442
out there, just want to say

2174
01:05:04,442 --> 01:05:05,943
thanks again to all those that

2175
01:05:05,943 --> 01:05:07,812
helped participate in that. And

2176
01:05:07,812 --> 01:05:10,782
yes, um, I also would like to

2177
01:05:10,782 --> 01:05:11,182
say get out and vote and let

2178
01:05:11,182 --> 01:05:12,783
s

2179
01:05:12,783 --> 01:05:15,186
stay friends after tomorrow, uh,

2180
01:05:15,186 --> 01:05:16,521
NOVEMBER 5th, um, I think

2181
01:05:16,521 --> 01:05:18,122
people are staying pretty

2182
01:05:18,122 --> 01:05:19,223
respectful, but please try and

2183
01:05:19,223 --> 01:05:21,250
be respectful to your neighbors,

2184
01:05:21,250 --> 01:05:23,425
family, friends, and voting

2185
01:05:23,495 --> 01:05:25,330
staff, uh, as well. I know, um,

2186
01:05:25,330 --> 01:05:26,697
a number of people are feeling

2187
01:05:26,697 --> 01:05:28,132
like this is some challenging.

2188
01:05:28,132 --> 01:05:29,634
Times and people are maybe

2189
01:05:29,634 --> 01:05:32,103
getting a little tired of uh

2190
01:05:32,103 --> 01:05:33,370
some of the the rhetoric that

2191
01:05:33,370 --> 01:05:35,873
goes along with elections, but,

2192
01:05:35,873 --> 01:05:36,774
um, I

2193
01:05:36,774 --> 01:05:38,209
m looking forward to it

2194
01:05:38,209 --> 01:05:38,909
being done, and I know a lot of

2195
01:05:38,909 --> 01:05:39,760
other people are as well, and

2196
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,760
we

2197
01:05:41,112 --> 01:05:41,780
re gonna get through this

2198
01:05:41,780 --> 01:05:44,282
all together, so thank you,

2199
01:05:44,282 --> 01:05:47,282
Your Honor. Very good. Thank

2200
01:05:47,719 --> 01:05:47,853
you. Councilor Bakken. Sure,

2201
01:05:47,853 --> 01:05:49,220
I

2202
01:05:49,220 --> 01:05:52,157
ll go. Um, I think a good

2203
01:05:52,157 --> 01:05:53,892
number of us were at the great

2204
01:05:53,892 --> 01:05:55,593
Halloween get-together and uh

2205
01:05:55,593 --> 01:05:57,562
My plus one was with me, and I

2206
01:05:57,562 --> 01:05:59,300
think we might have beat you

2207
01:05:59,300 --> 01:06:00,965
all with how much candy we

2208
01:06:00,965 --> 01:06:01,166
handed out, but you know,

2209
01:06:01,166 --> 01:06:02,401
that

2210
01:06:02,401 --> 01:06:04,703
s just, um, but the, you

2211
01:06:04,703 --> 01:06:07,105
know, the costume, I love, I

2212
01:06:07,105 --> 01:06:08,841
love seeing the Old school

2213
01:06:08,841 --> 01:06:10,775
costumes maybe, and then the

2214
01:06:10,775 --> 01:06:11,777
fancier ones and I think I

2215
01:06:11,777 --> 01:06:12,770
counted like 8 bananas. I mean,

2216
01:06:12,770 --> 01:06:13,678
who doesn

2217
01:06:13,678 --> 01:06:17,215
t want to be a banana

2218
01:06:17,215 --> 01:06:20,510
for Halloween. So, um, that, uh,

2219
01:06:20,510 --> 01:06:23,121
it just as always a fun event.

2220
01:06:23,121 --> 01:06:25,323
It was the 23rd annual, uh, get

2221
01:06:25,323 --> 01:06:26,358
together, and I remember the

2222
01:06:26,358 --> 01:06:28,758
first annual get-together when

2223
01:06:29,294 --> 01:06:30,262
all of our kids were small, and

2224
01:06:30,262 --> 01:06:32,130
so I think it

2225
01:06:32,130 --> 01:06:34,650
s very cool that

2226
01:06:34,650 --> 01:06:35,167
kids that have attended that

2227
01:06:35,167 --> 01:06:37,402
when it was a um a beginning

2228
01:06:37,402 --> 01:06:38,871
tradition. Um, brought their

2229
01:06:38,871 --> 01:06:39,405
own kids, um, that evening as

2230
01:06:39,405 --> 01:06:39,938
well, and that

2231
01:06:39,938 --> 01:06:41,306
s kind of what

2232
01:06:41,306 --> 01:06:42,708
South Saint Paul is all about,

2233
01:06:42,708 --> 01:06:45,210
you know, um, growing up here

2234
01:06:45,210 --> 01:06:47,846
and. Raising your family here,

2235
01:06:47,846 --> 01:06:50,649
um. Speaking of voting, yes,

2236
01:06:50,649 --> 01:06:52,651
please go out and vote. However,

2237
01:06:52,651 --> 01:06:53,785
I would like to just take a hot

2238
01:06:53,785 --> 01:06:57,385
minute to say thank you to

2239
01:06:58,290 --> 01:07:00,125
Deanna. And your staff. And the

2240
01:07:00,125 --> 01:07:00,526
election judges, I mean, we

2241
01:07:00,526 --> 01:07:02,526
ve

2242
01:07:03,620 --> 01:07:05,531
had a banner turnout here at

2243
01:07:05,531 --> 01:07:06,932
City Hall and you were open

2244
01:07:06,932 --> 01:07:08,767
Saturday and Sunday. I heard

2245
01:07:08,767 --> 01:07:11,336
you were here all day yesterday,

2246
01:07:11,336 --> 01:07:14,607
so I just want to commend, um,

2247
01:07:14,607 --> 01:07:16,675
your, uh, role in all of this.

2248
01:07:16,675 --> 01:07:18,944
I actually attended the

2249
01:07:18,944 --> 01:07:21,344
election integrity, uh, Deal

2250
01:07:21,814 --> 01:07:23,916
you put on to watch how our, um,

2251
01:07:23,916 --> 01:07:24,517
you know, our machines work.

2252
01:07:24,517 --> 01:07:25,918
And there

2253
01:07:25,918 --> 01:07:28,287
s just a lot of

2254
01:07:28,287 --> 01:07:30,289
behind the scenes that happens

2255
01:07:30,289 --> 01:07:30,756
and I just appreciate you and

2256
01:07:30,756 --> 01:07:31,658
everything you

2257
01:07:31,658 --> 01:07:32,324
ve done, and

2258
01:07:32,324 --> 01:07:34,930
just your knowledge about the

2259
01:07:34,930 --> 01:07:35,594
whole thing, how you did that

2260
01:07:35,594 --> 01:07:38,464
whole meeting. I was just like,

2261
01:07:38,464 --> 01:07:40,867
look at her ghost. So perhaps,

2262
01:07:40,867 --> 01:07:44,300
props to you and thank you and

2263
01:07:44,300 --> 01:07:44,303
I hope you survive tomorrow. Me

2264
01:07:44,303 --> 01:07:45,404
too. That

2265
01:07:45,404 --> 01:07:46,773
s all. Thank you very

2266
01:07:46,773 --> 01:07:48,730
much. That

2267
01:07:48,730 --> 01:07:49,208
s my receiver.

2268
01:07:49,208 --> 01:07:50,576
Thanks, Your Honor. There

2269
01:07:50,576 --> 01:07:51,611
s

2270
01:07:51,611 --> 01:07:54,110
been almost 1.4 million people

2271
01:07:54,130 --> 01:07:55,515
that took advantage of early

2272
01:07:55,515 --> 01:07:56,882
voting according to the latest

2273
01:07:56,882 --> 01:07:59,685
statistics from the state. I

2274
01:07:59,685 --> 01:08:02,122
saw earlier today, I think it

2275
01:08:02,122 --> 01:08:04,522
was 1,372,000, which is about

2276
01:08:05,558 --> 01:08:05,675
35% of the electorate. So it

2277
01:08:05,675 --> 01:08:07,590
s

2278
01:08:07,590 --> 01:08:08,940
an awesome thing. We

2279
01:08:08,940 --> 01:08:09,395
re looking

2280
01:08:09,395 --> 01:08:10,496
forward to tomorrow. Keep in

2281
01:08:10,496 --> 01:08:12,496
mind that it

2282
01:08:12,799 --> 01:08:15,199
s your friends and

2283
01:08:15,201 --> 01:08:16,336
neighbors that are working the

2284
01:08:16,336 --> 01:08:17,203
polling locations in South

2285
01:08:17,203 --> 01:08:17,437
Saint Paul. They don

2286
01:08:17,437 --> 01:08:18,671
t have a

2287
01:08:18,671 --> 01:08:19,720
preconceived agenda. There

2288
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,720
s

2289
01:08:21,474 --> 01:08:22,542
people from every party there

2290
01:08:22,542 --> 01:08:24,944
working on behalf of doing this.

2291
01:08:24,944 --> 01:08:26,346
A number of them have

2292
01:08:26,346 --> 01:08:29,346
volunteered for years. So get

2293
01:08:29,349 --> 01:08:32,252
out, do your job. Your civic

2294
01:08:32,252 --> 01:08:33,152
duty and vote, um, and to, to

2295
01:08:33,152 --> 01:08:36,152
my friends here that are

2296
01:08:36,556 --> 01:08:38,991
running, best of luck to

2297
01:08:38,991 --> 01:08:40,894
everybody that has put their

2298
01:08:40,894 --> 01:08:42,895
name in to be considered for

2299
01:08:42,895 --> 01:08:44,331
counsel or mayor or school

2300
01:08:44,331 --> 01:08:47,501
board, it takes courage to do

2301
01:08:47,501 --> 01:08:47,668
that. Thank you for doing that.

2302
01:08:47,668 --> 01:08:49,668
It

2303
01:08:50,871 --> 01:08:53,273
s not easy in 2024 with all

2304
01:08:53,273 --> 01:08:54,707
of the digital means to

2305
01:08:54,707 --> 01:08:56,710
question things. A lot of the

2306
01:08:56,710 --> 01:08:56,812
discussion is good. It

2307
01:08:56,812 --> 01:08:57,710
s

2308
01:08:57,710 --> 01:09:00,800
constructive. Some of it you

2309
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:00,186
kind of wonder what planet it

2310
01:09:00,186 --> 01:09:02,186
s

2311
01:09:02,416 --> 01:09:03,883
coming from, but Um, at the end

2312
01:09:03,883 --> 01:09:04,751
of the day, it

2313
01:09:04,751 --> 01:09:06,751
s a democratic

2314
01:09:06,853 --> 01:09:07,187
process that we have, and it

2315
01:09:07,187 --> 01:09:09,187
s

2316
01:09:09,622 --> 01:09:10,290
extremely important for us to

2317
01:09:10,290 --> 01:09:11,558
continue that democratic

2318
01:09:11,558 --> 01:09:13,460
process, not only in South

2319
01:09:13,460 --> 01:09:15,528
Saint Paul and Dakota County in

2320
01:09:15,528 --> 01:09:15,962
Minnesota, but in the United

2321
01:09:15,962 --> 01:09:16,830
States, it

2322
01:09:16,830 --> 01:09:19,830
s a fair and free

2323
01:09:21,101 --> 01:09:22,235
election. Make sure that we

2324
01:09:22,235 --> 01:09:23,700
exercise our constitutional

2325
01:09:23,700 --> 01:09:23,904
right to vote, and we

2326
01:09:23,904 --> 01:09:25,372
ll see

2327
01:09:25,372 --> 01:09:25,479
where the chips fall, but we

2328
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:26,840
re

2329
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:28,341
looking forward to the future

2330
01:09:28,341 --> 01:09:30,177
here in South Saint Paul. And

2331
01:09:30,177 --> 01:09:31,211
again, thank you to the

2332
01:09:31,211 --> 01:09:31,478
election officials and to our

2333
01:09:31,478 --> 01:09:32,145
team that

2334
01:09:32,145 --> 01:09:35,215
s put in so much work.

2335
01:09:35,215 --> 01:09:37,751
It truly is in our community

2336
01:09:37,751 --> 01:09:38,786
and with the number of team

2337
01:09:38,786 --> 01:09:40,153
members. I always call them

2338
01:09:40,153 --> 01:09:41,655
team members, and not just

2339
01:09:41,655 --> 01:09:42,123
staff, they

2340
01:09:42,123 --> 01:09:43,230
re team members

2341
01:09:43,230 --> 01:09:44,525
that we have. It

2342
01:09:44,525 --> 01:09:46,925
s an all hands

2343
01:09:47,594 --> 01:09:48,295
on deck process. We don

2344
01:09:48,295 --> 01:09:50,295
t have

2345
01:09:50,364 --> 01:09:51,265
a department of 100 people

2346
01:09:51,265 --> 01:09:51,666
working on elections. We

2347
01:09:51,666 --> 01:09:53,666
ve got

2348
01:09:54,669 --> 01:09:56,537
a team at City Hall under the

2349
01:09:56,537 --> 01:09:58,605
direction of the city clerk

2350
01:09:58,605 --> 01:10:00,700
that works on elections, and we

2351
01:10:00,700 --> 01:10:01,142
appreciate you and we want to

2352
01:10:01,142 --> 01:10:04,142
thank the buildings that allow

2353
01:10:04,745 --> 01:10:05,846
us To go in and conduct

2354
01:10:05,846 --> 01:10:08,249
elections on election day in

2355
01:10:08,249 --> 01:10:10,384
the primary, so. Thank you,

2356
01:10:10,384 --> 01:10:12,620
Your Honor. Very well, thank

2357
01:10:12,620 --> 01:10:14,210
you, Councilor Thompson. Uh,

2358
01:10:14,210 --> 01:10:15,890
slow day in the news for me

2359
01:10:15,890 --> 01:10:17,358
today, I guess. Um, I guess the

2360
01:10:17,358 --> 01:10:20,260
one thing I do want to say is,

2361
01:10:20,260 --> 01:10:23,164
I want to say again, thank you

2362
01:10:23,164 --> 01:10:25,733
to MS. Warner and her excellent

2363
01:10:25,733 --> 01:10:25,933
staff for their hard work, um,

2364
01:10:25,933 --> 01:10:26,133
they

2365
01:10:26,133 --> 01:10:26,667
ve, they

2366
01:10:26,667 --> 01:10:27,668
ve gone through

2367
01:10:27,668 --> 01:10:28,636
some tremendous numbers in just

2368
01:10:28,636 --> 01:10:29,837
one building, you know, so we

2369
01:10:29,837 --> 01:10:32,837
have, how many, how many

2370
01:10:32,940 --> 01:10:34,409
precincts again? 5 precincts,

2371
01:10:34,409 --> 01:10:35,910
but over 2000 early votes,

2372
01:10:35,910 --> 01:10:36,878
right? 2000 early votes. I mean,

2373
01:10:36,878 --> 01:10:37,479
so that

2374
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:37,779
s, that

2375
01:10:37,779 --> 01:10:39,247
s tremendous

2376
01:10:39,247 --> 01:10:42,183
all coming in here to get the

2377
01:10:42,183 --> 01:10:43,551
job done, um, so I just want to

2378
01:10:43,551 --> 01:10:44,518
thank staff and, uh, the

2379
01:10:44,518 --> 01:10:45,553
election judges for putting

2380
01:10:45,553 --> 01:10:46,955
their time and effort and

2381
01:10:46,955 --> 01:10:48,990
energy into this and making

2382
01:10:48,990 --> 01:10:50,920
sure that there is a good

2383
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:50,291
honest selection here, um,

2384
01:10:50,291 --> 01:10:52,291
that

2385
01:10:52,494 --> 01:10:53,961
s all I have. Thanks. Very

2386
01:10:53,961 --> 01:10:56,897
good. Thank you. I would like

2387
01:10:56,897 --> 01:10:58,299
to thank the team, uh, all

2388
01:10:58,299 --> 01:10:59,367
departments actually the

2389
01:10:59,367 --> 01:11:00,568
engineering department at this

2390
01:11:00,568 --> 01:11:01,770
time of year, year after year,

2391
01:11:01,770 --> 01:11:03,204
we button up all these big

2392
01:11:03,204 --> 01:11:05,773
projects that we started and

2393
01:11:05,773 --> 01:11:06,875
your team has a lot to do with.

2394
01:11:06,875 --> 01:11:08,430
Orchestrating those and trying

2395
01:11:08,430 --> 01:11:11,643
to keep everybody on time and

2396
01:11:12,513 --> 01:11:14,449
keeping Keeping the issues low

2397
01:11:14,449 --> 01:11:14,916
and the progress high and

2398
01:11:14,916 --> 01:11:15,210
sometimes those don

2399
01:11:15,210 --> 01:11:15,650
t

2400
01:11:15,650 --> 01:11:15,817
correspond, but I, I, you,

2401
01:11:15,817 --> 01:11:17,152
you

2402
01:11:17,152 --> 01:11:19,387
ve all done a really good

2403
01:11:19,387 --> 01:11:20,755
job, uh, not only your

2404
01:11:20,755 --> 01:11:22,190
department but the water

2405
01:11:22,190 --> 01:11:23,691
department and all the public

2406
01:11:23,691 --> 01:11:25,160
works department who are doing

2407
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:26,128
all of those things on the

2408
01:11:26,128 --> 01:11:27,695
backside that we don

2409
01:11:27,695 --> 01:11:29,465
t see, um,

2410
01:11:29,465 --> 01:11:31,466
many times in the middle of the

2411
01:11:31,466 --> 01:11:32,134
night, many times early in the

2412
01:11:32,134 --> 01:11:33,434
morning when contractors need

2413
01:11:33,434 --> 01:11:34,870
to get things started. So thank

2414
01:11:34,870 --> 01:11:36,771
you and please pass that along

2415
01:11:36,771 --> 01:11:39,674
to your, to your team. Because

2416
01:11:39,674 --> 01:11:41,644
it does take all of us to make

2417
01:11:41,644 --> 01:11:41,877
this happen and it is um I

2418
01:11:41,877 --> 01:11:43,877
m

2419
01:11:44,780 --> 01:11:44,947
quite proud of the work that

2420
01:11:44,947 --> 01:11:45,780
You

2421
01:11:45,780 --> 01:11:48,116
ve all done making sure all

2422
01:11:48,116 --> 01:11:48,416
these things happen every year

2423
01:11:48,416 --> 01:11:49,684
and now we

2424
01:11:49,684 --> 01:11:51,519
re going to start

2425
01:11:51,519 --> 01:11:52,954
preparing our public works

2426
01:11:52,954 --> 01:11:53,989
department for snow and the

2427
01:11:53,989 --> 01:11:56,425
winter and the cold and the ice

2428
01:11:56,425 --> 01:11:58,260
and so all those things are

2429
01:11:58,260 --> 01:11:59,895
coming together now in NOVEMBER

2430
01:11:59,895 --> 01:12:01,296
and so I just want to recognize

2431
01:12:01,296 --> 01:12:02,164
those staff members that are

2432
01:12:02,164 --> 01:12:03,698
that are continually working

2433
01:12:03,698 --> 01:12:05,768
hard for us and those that back

2434
01:12:05,768 --> 01:12:06,534
them up, and of course, it

2435
01:12:06,534 --> 01:12:08,203
s

2436
01:12:08,203 --> 01:12:09,437
been said about our, our city

2437
01:12:09,437 --> 01:12:09,704
clerk and all the work that

2438
01:12:09,704 --> 01:12:11,407
that she

2439
01:12:11,407 --> 01:12:13,575
s been doing and her

2440
01:12:13,575 --> 01:12:15,543
team have some grace. With

2441
01:12:15,543 --> 01:12:16,178
people if things are a little

2442
01:12:16,178 --> 01:12:16,378
long tomorrow if if things

2443
01:12:16,378 --> 01:12:17,546
aren

2444
01:12:17,546 --> 01:12:17,713
t, uh, you make a mistake,

2445
01:12:17,713 --> 01:12:18,980
it

2446
01:12:18,980 --> 01:12:20,783
s ok, have some grace with

2447
01:12:20,783 --> 01:12:22,718
yourself, go back and work out

2448
01:12:22,718 --> 01:12:23,218
to get another ballot and and

2449
01:12:23,218 --> 01:12:25,870
redo that. Don

2450
01:12:25,870 --> 01:12:26,121
t be afraid to

2451
01:12:26,121 --> 01:12:27,220
ask ask questions if you

2452
01:12:27,220 --> 01:12:27,189
re, if

2453
01:12:27,189 --> 01:12:27,989
you

2454
01:12:27,989 --> 01:12:29,989
re concerned about

2455
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:31,593
something, they are all trained

2456
01:12:31,593 --> 01:12:32,594
and are are there helping and

2457
01:12:32,594 --> 01:12:35,864
as council member s Seberg said,

2458
01:12:35,864 --> 01:12:36,566
they are. All of them are our

2459
01:12:36,566 --> 01:12:36,832
neighbors. These aren

2460
01:12:36,832 --> 01:12:38,367
t flown

2461
01:12:38,367 --> 01:12:38,767
in people. These aren

2462
01:12:38,767 --> 01:12:39,769
t

2463
01:12:39,769 --> 01:12:41,403
professionals. These are moms,

2464
01:12:41,403 --> 01:12:43,238
dads, uncles, neighbors that

2465
01:12:43,238 --> 01:12:45,740
are that are out there doing

2466
01:12:45,740 --> 01:12:46,410
this on our behalf to make sure

2467
01:12:46,410 --> 01:12:47,476
that everything goes well, so

2468
01:12:47,476 --> 01:12:49,378
thank you to them and thank you

2469
01:12:49,378 --> 01:12:51,948
to you all for getting out and

2470
01:12:51,948 --> 01:12:54,948
exercising your vote. With that,

2471
01:12:56,352 --> 01:12:56,952
uh, I look for a motion to

2472
01:12:56,952 --> 01:12:58,420
adjourn our council meeting

2473
01:12:58,420 --> 01:12:59,922
that was moved by council

2474
01:12:59,922 --> 01:13:02,322
member Serg, seconded by

2475
01:13:02,825 --> 01:13:04,294
Councilmember Kalzeki. All in

2476
01:13:04,294 --> 01:13:06,694
favor of adjournment. Any

2477
01:13:07,963 --> 01:13:10,363
oppose? Meeting is adjourned.

2478
01:13:10,367 --> 01:13:14,567
We will Thank you very much. We