1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,749 the fact that 2 00:00:05,759 --> 00:00:11,190 » I do agree that 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,360 it's 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:31,029 >> like 5 00:00:31,039 --> 00:00:34,079 said last time I 6 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:36,399 >> didn't know it. 7 00:00:36,399 --> 00:00:38,239 >> Yes, they 8 00:00:38,239 --> 00:00:42,399 can. There was motorcycles on field 60 9 00:00:42,399 --> 00:01:00,389 70 mph. 10 00:01:00,399 --> 00:01:08,390 yesterday 11 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:13,830 my cousin and says 12 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,119 » he couldn't find anywhere 13 00:01:15,119 --> 00:01:18,080 >> last month we went Chinese he calls 14 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:19,759 Chick-fil-A 15 00:01:19,759 --> 00:01:21,680 >> says where Chinese 16 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,230 >> couldn't be driving 17 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,600 when he's got 18 00:01:29,600 --> 00:09:08,230 on his wife. 19 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,680 Okay, we'll get started. 20 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:13,519 We'd like to welcome everyone to South 21 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:16,320 Weaver City Council at 6 PM on Tuesday, 22 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,320 March the 10th, 2026. We'll begin with 23 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,160 the pledge of allegiance from Councilman 24 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,000 Windsor and then a prayer by Councilman 25 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,519 Halverson. 26 00:09:25,519 --> 00:09:30,070 We write some people 27 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,720 to the flag of the United States of 28 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,600 America and to the republic for which it 29 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,959 stands. One nation under God, 30 00:09:38,959 --> 00:09:41,519 indivisible, with liberty and justice 31 00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:44,949 for all. 32 00:09:44,959 --> 00:09:48,310 Our 33 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,839 dear father in heaven, as we come before 34 00:09:49,839 --> 00:09:51,279 thee this evening, we're so very 35 00:09:51,279 --> 00:09:52,640 grateful for the opportunity we have to 36 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,880 gather here and to discuss the needs of 37 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,800 the city. We're thankful for the area we 38 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,480 live in and the beautiful place it is 39 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,880 and the opportunities which it provides 40 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,519 for us. Father, we ask Hy spirit to be 41 00:10:05,519 --> 00:10:07,519 with us as we make decisions and discuss 42 00:10:07,519 --> 00:10:10,000 these the issues before us that we may 43 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,440 make decisions to the best of our 44 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,399 ability with the the knowledge we have. 45 00:10:14,399 --> 00:10:16,000 Father, again we're thankful for our 46 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,920 firefighters and our armed forces and 47 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,240 all they are doing here and across the 48 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,160 world. Watch over and protect them that 49 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,760 they may return home and safety to their 50 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,000 families. We thank thee again for all 51 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,279 that we have and we say it's the name of 52 00:10:27,279 --> 00:10:28,560 the son Jesus Christ. Amen. 53 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:32,310 >> Amen. 54 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,800 » Okay, we'll begin this evening with uh 55 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,200 public comments. Thank you very much, 56 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,200 Councilman Windsor, Capital Herson. 57 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,760 Appreciate that. We'll begin with our 58 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,640 public comments. Uh we ask that you 59 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,640 please be respectful. 60 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,279 Uh we ask you to come up to the 61 00:10:49,279 --> 00:10:51,839 microphone and state your name in the 62 00:10:51,839 --> 00:10:54,720 city in which you reside. You may speak 63 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,000 for three minutes or less. And please no 64 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,440 remarks from the audience. And uh the 65 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,720 com the council will not uh comment on 66 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,440 your remarks at this time. So with that, 67 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:10,800 Brent, you're already up there. 68 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,279 >> I'm here. My name is Brent Paul. I'm 69 00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:15,120 South Weaver. I've lived here for just 70 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,519 short of 80 years, which is my entire 71 00:11:17,519 --> 00:11:20,560 life. My concern though right now is 72 00:11:20,560 --> 00:11:24,000 about the development or lack thereof 73 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,360 because of the Hill Air Force Base 74 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,680 pollution. I don't know if you guys knew 75 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:31,200 it or not, but we've been on the 76 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:32,640 national priority list as one of the 77 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,160 most hazardous sites in the entire 78 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,839 country for almost 40 years now. 79 00:11:37,839 --> 00:11:39,440 And it hasn't done us much good to be on 80 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,279 the national priority list. meaning it 81 00:11:41,279 --> 00:11:43,120 is a priority and they still don't 82 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,720 respond. Well, back then pathetic is a 83 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,120 pretty good answer for it. 84 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:55,200 Uh they put out a plan back in the 1980s 85 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,040 where they expected to have it resolved 86 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,079 by the 2010s, but the 2010s came and 87 00:12:00,079 --> 00:12:02,000 gone and then they just changed it to 88 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,760 still have monitor natural attenuation 89 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,000 being the resolution, [snorts] but now 90 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,920 it's going to be until the 2040s before 91 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,240 it's remediated. 92 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,800 So you can see we're a long ways still 93 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,839 going to be in dire situation. 94 00:12:15,839 --> 00:12:25,030 Um 95 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,839 there's some property not far from us 96 00:12:27,839 --> 00:12:31,680 just down the road that's on the 97 00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:33,600 national priority list. We've been on 98 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,519 the national priority list for over 99 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:38,720 almost 40 years now. 40 years and hasn't 100 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,040 moved an inch. 101 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:48,470 But anyway, 102 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,160 I'm using up all my time reading my own 103 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:58,150 notes. 104 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,000 Anyway, it hasn't been resolved and it's 105 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,720 not being resolved. In fact, I've been 106 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,240 up here many times over the years, as 107 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,839 you guys well know, and I can't think of 108 00:13:05,839 --> 00:13:07,440 one constructive thing that we've done 109 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,600 as a city. 110 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,440 Illfield, all they've had is monitor 111 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,079 natural attenuation, which is basically 112 00:13:14,079 --> 00:13:16,480 just watching it do nothing for 40 113 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,279 years, but then nothing's happened. So, 114 00:13:19,279 --> 00:13:21,040 here we are still polluted after all 115 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,920 these years, and we're not supposed to 116 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,279 subdivide it until it's cleaned up. But 117 00:13:27,279 --> 00:13:28,880 we do that, don't we? We approved the 118 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,800 subdivisions and they're polluted 119 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,200 subdivisions. 120 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,480 I don't know how people are going to be 121 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,000 held accountable, but you should be held 122 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,639 accountable because they are polluted 123 00:13:38,639 --> 00:13:42,150 and they're dangerous. 124 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,320 » I've got a lot more written down, but 125 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,000 I'll have to do it on another day. 126 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,040 Thanks for your time. 127 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:47,839 >> Thanks, 128 00:13:47,839 --> 00:13:54,150 >> thank you, Brand. Appreciate it. 129 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,040 beg your indulgence because I'm not 130 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:01,750 walking well in Michael 131 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,680 » just to alleviate your curiosity since 132 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:11,430 I'm a regular here accident yesterday 133 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,680 for a while 134 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:17,750 I didn't know he was 135 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:35,670 » yeah we can pass 136 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,720 Paul Sturm, South Weaver City. 137 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,720 I have public comments and questions on 138 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,279 agenda item number six, the conditional 139 00:14:43,279 --> 00:14:47,839 use permit 2601 for Quick Trip. 140 00:14:47,839 --> 00:14:50,240 I have many questions. I have I have con 141 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,320 I have continuing questions regarding 142 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,120 the thoroughess of responses provided to 143 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,760 the numerous concerns raised for this 144 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,160 quick trip development over the past 145 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,279 several months both internally and by 146 00:15:03,279 --> 00:15:05,920 South Weaver City citizens. Questions 147 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,279 were presented to the planning 148 00:15:07,279 --> 00:15:09,760 commission on two occasions and it 149 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,440 appears that they were not fully 150 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,720 addressed in the responses provided 151 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,920 on a one forone basis of questions 152 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,279 versus answers provided. 153 00:15:21,279 --> 00:15:23,440 Once again, it appears that this quick 154 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,240 trip project and its associated 155 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,560 conditional use permit requirements are 156 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,320 being rushed through the South Weaver 157 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,040 City approval process as is currently 158 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,079 being presented to the city council. In 159 00:15:36,079 --> 00:15:38,320 the detailed engineering analysis 160 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,959 performed regarding the status of 161 00:15:40,959 --> 00:15:44,320 responses requested and provided, there 162 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,519 are numerous unanswered questions. 163 00:15:47,519 --> 00:15:50,959 What I did is did an analysis of the 164 00:15:50,959 --> 00:15:54,240 engineering study. There were a total of 165 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,279 36 assessments performed. 166 00:15:57,279 --> 00:16:02,320 Assessments shown as completed are 18. 167 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:06,160 Assessments shown as not completed 15. 168 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:11,519 Assessments shown as pending is three. 169 00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:13,759 Thus, the city council is being asked to 170 00:16:13,759 --> 00:16:17,360 approve a cup that will significantly im 171 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,560 impact many East End residents and local 172 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,519 businesses with only one half of the 173 00:16:23,519 --> 00:16:26,000 questions that were asked over many 174 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,800 months being answered in the engineering 175 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,480 analysis of the cup requirements. 176 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,120 Thank you. 177 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,079 >> Thank you, Paul. 178 00:16:36,079 --> 00:16:47,670 >> Thanks, Paul. 179 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,120 Jeff Eddings, 2645E, East 7,800 South. 180 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,040 My comments are in regard to the Quick 181 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,279 Trip. Um, 182 00:16:55,279 --> 00:16:57,519 I'm not thrilled about the GA another 183 00:16:57,519 --> 00:16:59,199 gas station being built right by my 184 00:16:59,199 --> 00:17:01,120 residence right across the street, but 185 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,440 it is what it is and more than likely 186 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,439 it's probably going to go through. But I 187 00:17:05,439 --> 00:17:07,520 do want to say that I did attend the 188 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,000 planning commission meetings and um 189 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,520 Braxton and Spencer back here, 190 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,280 representatives of the Quick Trip and um 191 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,360 and the other firm. Um they they seem 192 00:17:17,360 --> 00:17:18,640 like they do want to help out the 193 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,160 residents. Um they were really 194 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,520 responsive to the things that we said 195 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,919 and they did make some changes. So, I do 196 00:17:23,919 --> 00:17:26,480 think they are taking our um concerns 197 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,960 into consideration to minimize the 198 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,840 impact of the of the commercial so the 199 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,120 residents that live around the area 200 00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:35,039 don't have to, you know, so much noise, 201 00:17:35,039 --> 00:17:37,039 so much light and things like that. So, 202 00:17:37,039 --> 00:17:39,802 I do want to commend them on that. Um, 203 00:17:39,802 --> 00:17:40,480 [clears throat] 204 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,080 I know it probably isn't going to be, it 205 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,440 might be talked about tonight, but it 206 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,000 isn't necessarily on the agenda, but uh 207 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,840 the roundabout that's proposed in front 208 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,840 of my my home right there on the 209 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,919 frontage road in 7,800 South Um, I am 210 00:17:53,919 --> 00:17:55,520 adamantly against that. I don't think 211 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,440 it's necessary. I think it's just a 212 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,679 nicity. It's not a requirement. I don't 213 00:17:59,679 --> 00:18:01,919 think the traffic uh that going down 214 00:18:01,919 --> 00:18:05,280 that street uh requires it. I think a 215 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,000 two-way stop would be fine. Um I think 216 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,000 what you're doing is just making a gas 217 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,200 station recirculation device versus uh 218 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,280 um fixing the actual traffic. I And I 219 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,360 also don't think that we need raised 220 00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:19,200 medians down there by the Maverick. I 221 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,400 think that's just going to cause more 222 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,360 problems. Um, I think with the if you 223 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:25,280 widen the road, I think people can 224 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,600 figure out how to get out in there 225 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,880 safely. Um, and anyways, I just wanted 226 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,480 to go on the record saying that I don't 227 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,720 think the roundabout's necessary. Um, I 228 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,039 just it's it's just too much. So, thank 229 00:18:37,039 --> 00:18:37,840 you very much. 230 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:38,480 >> Thank you. 231 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:49,990 Appreciate it. 232 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,520 Hi, Paul Strazz South Weaver. Um, 233 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,360 council members, thank you. I want to 234 00:18:55,360 --> 00:18:56,799 share what I found after reviewing 235 00:18:56,799 --> 00:18:59,840 ordinance 20264, the legal exhibits, the 236 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,320 staff report, and the concept layout. 237 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:03,919 When you line these documents up, they 238 00:19:03,919 --> 00:19:05,760 don't match, and these inconsistencies 239 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,600 matter. First, the acreage numbers 240 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,440 conflict. The ordinance and staff report 241 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,360 say 34.635 acres. Exhibit A is 14.044 242 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:17,120 044 acres and exhibit B is 20.591 acres. 243 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:18,880 Those add up, but the concept layout 244 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,919 shows 35.66 acres. That's more than a 245 00:19:21,919 --> 00:19:24,400 1acre difference. In zoning, an acre 246 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,679 isn't a rounding area. It's a legal 247 00:19:25,679 --> 00:19:28,000 boundary. If the map, the exhibits, and 248 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 the ordinance don't align, the council 249 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,559 can't make a clean legislative decision. 250 00:19:32,559 --> 00:19:34,320 Second, the ordinance lists three 251 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,400 parcels, including parcel 130210150, 252 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,200 but exhibits A and B only describe two. 253 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,600 Parcel 150 has no legal description 254 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,760 attached. That means the council is 255 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,840 being asked to reszone land that is not 256 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,160 properly defined in the record. That's 257 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,640 not a small oversight. 258 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,120 Third, the concept plan is binding under 259 00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:57,919 city code, but the plan is incomplete. 260 00:19:57,919 --> 00:19:59,760 South River code requires lot layouts, 261 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,080 circulation systems, densities, open 262 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,679 space, phasing, and conceptual 263 00:20:03,679 --> 00:20:05,840 utilities. The map shows lot lines and 264 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,360 culde-sacs, but several required 265 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:09,520 elements are missing and key impact 266 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,520 analyses such as traffic, safety, 267 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,120 schools are pushed to the subdivision 268 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:15,440 stage. And that brings me to my critical 269 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,440 point. What it really means when report 270 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,880 says we'll look at it at the subdivision 271 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,400 stage. It means the zoning is approved 272 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,080 first before the city has a traffic 273 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,559 study, a utility capacity analysis, an 274 00:20:24,559 --> 00:20:27,200 emergency access plan, a school impact 275 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,440 review, storm water engineering, or a 276 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,919 road safety mitigation plan. Those come 277 00:20:31,919 --> 00:20:33,360 later after the zoning is already 278 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:35,039 granted when the city has far less 279 00:20:35,039 --> 00:20:37,760 leverage. Once zoning is approved, the 280 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,440 developer has a legal right to build at 281 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,520 that density even if later studies show, 282 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,840 for example, that the road is unsafe, 283 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,440 the intersection fails, the school is 284 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,200 over capacity, or utilities can't 285 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,520 support the load. The city cannot reduce 286 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,919 density or undo the zoning. They can 287 00:20:51,919 --> 00:20:54,159 only require technical tweaks, not fewer 288 00:20:54,159 --> 00:20:56,400 homes. So, when we defer traffic and 289 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,000 safety to the subdivision stage, we are 290 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,480 approving zoning blind. is the planning 291 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,240 equivalent of saying we'll build the 292 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,600 airplane now and check the wings once 293 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,240 we're in the air. Fourth, the layout map 294 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,840 itself raises concerns. It shows 70 lots 295 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,159 total, 42 in the residential moderate 296 00:21:12,159 --> 00:21:13,919 area and 28 in the residential low 297 00:21:13,919 --> 00:21:16,159 moderate area, but the density shown on 298 00:21:16,159 --> 00:21:17,679 the map are well below what the zoning 299 00:21:17,679 --> 00:21:21,280 would legally allow. So, our LM area max 300 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,200 density is 2 units per acre. Concept map 301 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:28,000 shows 1.86 units. Residential moderate 302 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,840 max density is four units per acre. 303 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,320 Concept map shows 2.04 units per acre. 304 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,159 Why does this matter? This means the 305 00:21:34,159 --> 00:21:35,679 zoning being requested enables 306 00:21:35,679 --> 00:21:37,200 significantly higher density than what 307 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,679 is drawn on the concept plan. The map is 308 00:21:39,679 --> 00:21:42,159 not a cap, the zoning is. And once the 309 00:21:42,159 --> 00:21:43,919 higher capacity zoning is granted, the 310 00:21:43,919 --> 00:21:46,000 city has no ability to reduce density 311 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,159 later if impacts turn out to be greater 312 00:21:48,159 --> 00:21:50,720 than expected. Last, the planning 313 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,039 commission itself acknowledged the 314 00:21:53,039 --> 00:21:55,520 safety hazard at 925 East, a blind 315 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,200 corner with school traffic and sidewalk 316 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,760 deficiencies and even said more UD do 317 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,360 information is needed before subdivision 318 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:04,159 approval. That's on page 89 of the staff 319 00:22:04,159 --> 00:22:07,200 report of this package of 159 pages. 320 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,880 Yet, this reszone is being pushed ahead 321 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,120 of that information. Approving zoning 322 00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:12,799 before resolving what I believe to be 323 00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:14,159 the most dangerous part of the project 324 00:22:14,159 --> 00:22:16,720 is not just premature, it's unsafe. 325 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,520 Finally, the re reversion clause is not 326 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,120 the automatic safeguard it appears to 327 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:23,280 be. Reversion only occurs if deadlines 328 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,640 are tracked, conditions are enforced, 329 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,559 and no extension is granted. In 330 00:22:26,559 --> 00:22:27,840 practice, that makes reversion 331 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,080 conditional, not guaranteed, and it puts 332 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,919 the onus on the city to initiate and 333 00:22:31,919 --> 00:22:34,080 enforce it. Council members, these 334 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,760 aren't opinions. These are facts pulled 335 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,120 directly from the documents in front of 336 00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:38,960 you. When the ordinance, the exhibits, 337 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,880 and the concept plan don't align, and 338 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,400 when key safety and infrastructure 339 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,400 questions are still unanswered, the only 340 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,159 responsible action is to deny the 341 00:22:46,159 --> 00:22:47,600 reszone and require a complete, 342 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,919 consistent, and safe application. We 343 00:22:49,919 --> 00:22:51,440 only get one chance to zone this land 344 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,520 correctly. Let's do it right, not fast. 345 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,640 Thank you. 346 00:22:54,640 --> 00:23:02,470 >> Thank you. 347 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,480 » Seeing no other comments, we'll move on 348 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,120 with our action items. 349 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:11,590 consisting of our uh 350 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,840 consent agenda 351 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,520 of minutes for February the 7th, 2026, 352 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,679 February checks, December's budget to 353 00:23:19,679 --> 00:23:22,640 actual, amended staff report, and 354 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,679 January's budget to actual. Is there any 355 00:23:25,679 --> 00:23:27,919 corrections or changes to any of these 356 00:23:27,919 --> 00:23:30,799 items, council? If not, we'll look for a 357 00:23:30,799 --> 00:23:34,390 motion to approve. 358 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,080 Mayor, I move to approve the consent 359 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:36,880 agenda. 360 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,000 >> Second. 361 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,600 >> We have a motion and a second by 362 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,080 Councilman Windsor. All in favor say I. 363 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,000 >> I. 364 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,840 >> The motion carries. Thank you. 365 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:53,909 Next item. Uh, ordinance 2026-04 366 00:23:53,919 --> 00:23:56,159 uh, changing zoning for peak subdivision 367 00:23:56,159 --> 00:24:00,320 at approximately 898 East 7240 South 368 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,291 from agricultural who 369 00:24:04,291 --> 00:24:05,280 [clears throat] 370 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,280 multiple regional re residential zone 371 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,799 applicant Corey Cap and Burn Peak. 372 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:14,400 Before we get in on this, we're going to 373 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,880 have Lance uh, lead in on this 374 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:25,269 discussion. 375 00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:29,520 Uh well, good evening. Um um this is a 376 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,840 reszone request. The acreage has been 377 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,520 fluctuated a little bit, but it has 378 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,480 landed finally on 34.635 379 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,720 acres. That is matches the two legal 380 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,000 descriptions that we've received from 381 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,880 the applicant. uh 14 acres will is 382 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,120 requested to go to RLM and 20.59 acres 383 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:53,600 is requested to go to RM. Um the city 384 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,320 council is the uh final approval 385 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,440 approving body for the reszone. Uh after 386 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,039 that point um if if the reszone is 387 00:25:03,039 --> 00:25:06,559 approved um then the subdivision process 388 00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:08,880 would uh preliminary plat application 389 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,799 would be next and that would go to the 390 00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:12,720 planning commission for final approval 391 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,279 would not come to the city council and 392 00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:16,960 the final plat would go to the 393 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,279 administrative land use authority which 394 00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:21,520 is a committee of two council members 395 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,600 and staff that would review the final 396 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,679 plat which is mostly technical 397 00:25:25,679 --> 00:25:29,120 documents. Um so this is the chance to 398 00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:32,320 discuss the land use as it is outlined. 399 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,799 Uh the general plan outlines this area 400 00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:37,760 for this level of density. Uh and these 401 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:42,559 zones meet that level of density. Um 402 00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:44,320 and so staff has recommended approval. 403 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,919 The plan commission also discussed it 404 00:25:45,919 --> 00:25:48,559 and held the public hearing uh on 405 00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:50,400 February 12th and got the public 406 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,799 comments and feedbacks on that. Uh they 407 00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:54,880 recommended approval. 408 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,559 Um the question of the uh intersection 409 00:25:58,559 --> 00:26:02,080 at 925 was a direction that came from UD 410 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,159 do as they looked at the subdivision 411 00:26:04,159 --> 00:26:06,799 plat. They saw that the the original 412 00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:10,000 location was further to the east 413 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,080 drive and they said no we we don't want 414 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,799 it there. We need to have it at 925. 415 00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:17,279 >> Excuse me. Did they um recommend 416 00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:19,520 approval or did they do approval or 417 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,320 approval with conditions? 418 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,240 They planning commission recommended 419 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,520 approval 420 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,799 >> with no conditions. 421 00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:29,600 >> That is correct. 422 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,799 >> Okay. Thank you. 423 00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:35,600 >> Anyway, uh and so UD do looked at that 424 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,600 and they have outlined uh items that 425 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,640 need to be addressed. Um the land use 426 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,240 process generally speaking is you know 427 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,080 what kind of uses do we want there at 428 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,400 the general plan. We outlined this level 429 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,960 of density. Now, we're reszoning or 430 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,000 zoning the property from agricultural to 431 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,400 that level of density. Uh, and then 432 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,559 we'll get into much more of the details 433 00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:00,880 and everything at the subdivision phase 434 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,640 where there's a lot of issues that have 435 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,600 to be addressed. Um, the items that are 436 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,400 in the staff report are at a little bit 437 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,039 higher level, but there's no reason to 438 00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:12,960 think that like the water and storm 439 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,279 sewer and all those types of things um 440 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:17,600 would not they can be done. It's just 441 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,919 the details of how they will be done. Uh 442 00:27:19,919 --> 00:27:21,039 that will be ironed out in the 443 00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:24,559 subdivision phase. Um 444 00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:27,039 so that's plan commission recommended 445 00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:28,080 approval. 446 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,279 >> Okay. 447 00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:31,200 >> Thank you, Lance. 448 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,799 Council, 449 00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:35,120 any discussions? 450 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:38,559 >> I just have a few quick questions. Um 451 00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:40,080 is this gentleman here correct that all 452 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,720 of these numbers are um missing? 453 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,039 Incorrect? I mean, I'm looking at page 454 00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:47,600 89 and it still says that this is 455 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,880 projected land use of um residential 456 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,400 patio. 457 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,919 Um it's it's just kind of interesting to 458 00:27:57,919 --> 00:28:00,240 Is is this document up to date? Are we 459 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,840 even looking at the the correct stuff 460 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:02,320 right now? 461 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,120 >> Well, I I I believe so. I'm I I'm trying 462 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:07,360 to think what that Let me get to it. And 463 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:10,320 I didn't have a chance to look at that. 464 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,399 >> And this is just on page 89. This is at 465 00:28:12,399 --> 00:28:13,679 the beginning of it when it talks about 466 00:28:13,679 --> 00:28:16,960 the background and the analysis. 467 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,120 So 468 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:20,559 >> this is just talking about that's 469 00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:21,919 talking about the surrounded uses. 470 00:28:21,919 --> 00:28:23,200 >> Okay. So you're saying that the 471 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,039 surrounded uses are still the patio on 472 00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:27,600 the radio. Okay. Thank you. Oh yeah, 473 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,159 that's 474 00:28:30,159 --> 00:28:32,720 the properties to the west are Harvest 475 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,440 Park and they are RP and that is the 476 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,279 zoning and the densities that they're 477 00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:41,039 that are there. And so the numbers 478 00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:43,679 um that he discussed are they're all 479 00:28:43,679 --> 00:28:46,559 set. And do we know which ones they are? 480 00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:48,159 >> And that's what I was going to say is I 481 00:28:48,159 --> 00:28:49,760 think there might be some confusion. The 482 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,360 original application that's in the 483 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,600 packet was a larger number of acres and 484 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,480 it's shrunk uh and been changed a couple 485 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,520 times uh a little bit of fluctuation 486 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,120 there um due to issues that the 487 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,799 applicant's having. I wouldn't say 488 00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:08,320 issues, but I things that the 489 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,480 applicant's working out. The reason 490 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:15,520 tonight would be for the 34 acres 491 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,430 in those two zones. 492 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,000 I I can add that what really matters is 493 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,840 the legal descriptions which were 494 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,440 provided 495 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,710 on 496 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,880 um as was pointed out by that gentleman 497 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,399 earlier, legal descriptions are what 498 00:29:32,399 --> 00:29:36,880 carry. So it's page 499 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:45,350 99 and 100 of the packet. 500 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,000 And if you add those two acreages up, 501 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:57,029 they they equal the 34.635. 502 00:29:57,039 --> 00:30:01,120 My question is on um I know that there 503 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,480 was a portion of the original 504 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,399 there's approximately seven acres that 505 00:30:06,399 --> 00:30:07,919 was not going to be included in this 506 00:30:07,919 --> 00:30:09,679 development. That acreage is not 507 00:30:09,679 --> 00:30:20,070 included in density. Correct. 508 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:26,389 » Have any other questions, concerns? 509 00:30:26,399 --> 00:30:27,919 I guess one of the last big concerns 510 00:30:27,919 --> 00:30:31,600 that I have is that um 511 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:36,480 right now just looking at this um to me 512 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,240 um we are talking about having any grass 513 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,000 going out on a road that we do not have 514 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,960 any plans for that road to be paid for. 515 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,440 Sorry, did you not understand? Add on to 516 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,320 South Weaver Drive. No. Up onto the old 517 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,520 um old fort road. Um 518 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,600 how is So if we have to have two 519 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,279 aggressors and we've got the top old 520 00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:04,799 fort old fort road um who's I mean 521 00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:07,120 obviously we wanted uh to be able to 522 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,640 have some type of connection going out 523 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,919 there and it even shows it going through 524 00:31:11,919 --> 00:31:14,399 here but then ending at Old Fort Road 525 00:31:14,399 --> 00:31:16,159 but that's going to then end in a dead 526 00:31:16,159 --> 00:31:19,200 end. So to the west of Dead Ends, but 527 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,880 it'll have the access to the south, the 528 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,919 South Weaver Drive, 529 00:31:21,919 --> 00:31:22,399 >> right? 530 00:31:22,399 --> 00:31:24,399 >> And then it'll have the two accesses on 531 00:31:24,399 --> 00:31:27,039 Canyon and Old Fort Road. 532 00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:28,720 >> Uh that would connect to the east 533 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,200 >> to the east into the what some people 534 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,880 call the DR port subdivision. 535 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,960 >> Yeah. 536 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,430 >> Okay. But that one's not 537 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:39,840 » Yeah, 538 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,159 >> because it's part of the same developer 539 00:31:42,159 --> 00:31:44,080 other subdivision. 540 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:44,799 >> Oh, yeah. 541 00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:46,799 >> And 542 00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:48,640 to and looking at that one. So, that 543 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,799 one's got the exit going out there and 544 00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:51,200 then 545 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,909 >> connect until this property 546 00:31:55,919 --> 00:31:56,640 develops. 547 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,080 >> That's exactly that we assumed. 548 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:58,640 >> Yeah. 549 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,559 Um and I don't I I'm not 550 00:32:02,559 --> 00:32:04,080 comfortable with that. I know that we're 551 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,600 just doing a reszone at this point right 552 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,120 now, but um I'm still not comfortable 553 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,200 with connecting it to a place that we 554 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,720 don't have. I mean, obviously we can run 555 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,640 it through the others, but um it it we 556 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,240 could be talking years before we get any 557 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,200 type of disconnection or any kind of 558 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,679 connection going out. So, that's just my 559 00:32:25,679 --> 00:32:27,039 thought. 560 00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:29,279 >> Yeah. And then going out to the freeway. 561 00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:32,640 So, somebody's got to pay for it. And I 562 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,200 don't know who or how we're going to be 563 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,559 able to get that going over there cuz 564 00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:39,039 right now I have no intention of the 565 00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:42,960 city paying for it. So going to the 566 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,000 west. Is that what you're saying? 567 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,039 >> Yeah. Okay. 568 00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:52,159 >> Yeah. 569 00:32:52,159 --> 00:32:55,039 >> Um Lances on the reszone [clears throat] 570 00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:58,399 though, can we as far as density goes? 571 00:32:58,399 --> 00:33:02,240 Um can we tie it to the number of lots 572 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,200 currently on this plat? 573 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,039 >> Sure. 574 00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:09,840 Well, I mean you it technically in code 575 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,360 we say that it's unless it's a 576 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,880 significant change. That's one that we 577 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,519 just put in and a significant change is 578 00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:17,279 10% or more. 579 00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:20,240 >> But it needs to be based on the plat we 580 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,360 reviewed at the time. 581 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:21,840 >> Exactly. 582 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,360 >> Okay. That that's where I was headed 583 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:23,840 with that. 584 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,110 >> Yeah. 585 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,080 » As long as that plaque gets tied to that 586 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,840 isn't, you know, that's been a concern 587 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,000 in the past where we've lost that 588 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,760 disconnect. 589 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:42,950 and Joel Joel's guy. 590 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,760 » Brandon, can you uh there's been a lot 591 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,200 of comments about that connection on 592 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,279 South Weber Road and and there being a 593 00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:51,279 blank corner there and it being a safety 594 00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:54,159 issue. Can you just address that for us, 595 00:33:54,159 --> 00:33:54,720 please? 596 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,440 >> I can give you I can give you an answer. 597 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,760 Um 598 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,480 it this is a difficult area. um 599 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,079 in the city's uh overall transportation 600 00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:10,159 master plan 601 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:12,320 for all of this undeveloped ground here 602 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,599 that's uh north of South Liber Drive. We 603 00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:19,359 show adding one more 604 00:34:19,359 --> 00:34:22,079 road connection between 605 00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:28,079 uh 1200 East and Canyon Meadows Drive. 606 00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:30,399 So, in that whole stretch, there's only 607 00:34:30,399 --> 00:34:33,760 there's we're only allowing one. 608 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:34,399 Um, 609 00:34:34,399 --> 00:34:35,679 >> so this would be that one. 610 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:37,040 >> This would be the one. Yep. 611 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,599 >> Okay. And then the long-term plan to 612 00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:42,639 kind of address what Joel's concern is, 613 00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:44,399 obviously all that traffic will funnel 614 00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:47,679 out of that one exit point until old 615 00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:50,879 road eventually gets connected once 616 00:34:50,879 --> 00:34:52,800 whoever owns that property decides to 617 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,399 develop it. I imagine that would be part 618 00:34:54,399 --> 00:34:57,040 of the development process just like 619 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,000 these two properties are doing their 620 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:00,800 sections, right? 621 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:01,920 >> Yes. You mean to the west? 622 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:02,800 >> To the west. Yeah. 623 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,000 >> Yeah. Yes. Um I mean that's why we have 624 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,560 a master plan and and uh you can only 625 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,560 carry it forward as people decide to 626 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,160 develop their ground. So um you can't 627 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,119 control who develops first or when that 628 00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:22,240 happens. So we do we we uh respond 629 00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:24,480 accordingly. 630 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,800 The as far as like the actual location 631 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,000 connecting to 925 versus 632 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,800 uh connecting it 633 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,200 I think we call it where it's currently 634 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,280 coming out at Cap Road. We call it Cap 635 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,440 Road. 636 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,280 um 637 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,720 that UD do is is requiring it that that 638 00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:48,880 it goes at the at that location. 639 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,560 It does feel like a blind corner right 640 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,920 now. There are a lot of trees that are 641 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:59,829 difficult to see around. Um 642 00:35:59,839 --> 00:36:02,800 in order for UDOT to approve it, they'll 643 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,240 have to meet the site distances 644 00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:05,760 required. 645 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,400 Um it is UD doat's road. Uh I I 646 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,839 personally feel that uh it connecting to 647 00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:16,960 925 in the long run 648 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,160 is a safer location than than farther to 649 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,520 the east. Again, what I would add to 650 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,839 that is my my reasoning for that is that 651 00:36:27,839 --> 00:36:29,920 offset intersections 652 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,040 always prove especially long term to be 653 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,839 challenging and difficult. 654 00:36:35,839 --> 00:36:37,760 Um 655 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,200 we show in the long-term plan that as 656 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,880 soon as 657 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,920 the traffic uh meets that the 658 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,160 requirement that 659 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,160 uh we would put it we'd anticipate the 660 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,280 traffic signal would maybe um be 661 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,280 anticipated here. Uh, I imagine in my 662 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,880 again in my own opinion that would be a 663 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,240 safer situation for the the kids that 664 00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:05,599 will live in this neighborhood that will 665 00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:07,920 go to South Weaver Drive, I mean to 666 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,839 South Elementary and cross South Wever 667 00:37:09,839 --> 00:37:14,160 Drive. Um, versus offset intersections 668 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,680 where you would have to choose one of 669 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,079 those to put in a signal and the other 670 00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:20,320 one would be unsalized. 671 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,800 um thus making it un less safe in my 672 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:30,230 opinion. Um 673 00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:33,839 I I uh it would be ideal if you could 674 00:37:33,839 --> 00:37:35,839 connect in a location where the the road 675 00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:38,800 was perfectly straight. 676 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,470 Um 677 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:43,839 but they'll still have to meet those 678 00:37:43,839 --> 00:37:46,640 sight distance requirements. So 679 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:52,000 that that approval comes from UD do. 680 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,280 >> I don't know if I'm answering your 681 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,000 question, but 682 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,000 >> no, I I I appreciate it because I think 683 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,880 that the context is important because 684 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,400 that isn't necessarily drawn out like 685 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,119 that in the documentation. So I that 686 00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:07,200 answered it for me. So I appreciate it. 687 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,200 >> You brought up a that UD do approved it. 688 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,440 I thought they required it to come out 689 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,440 at that. No, no, no, no. They have not 690 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,560 approved anything yet. 691 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,839 They they they uh they are the ones that 692 00:38:21,839 --> 00:38:25,040 would need to approve it, but they are 693 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,359 requiring if you're going to connect, 694 00:38:27,359 --> 00:38:30,560 you've got to connect at 925, 695 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,400 >> right? So, they're saying crosswise, not 696 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,079 to Okay, that's what you're saying by 697 00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:37,520 the 925. 698 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,920 >> Yes. Now, we could just we could just 699 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,160 eliminate having a road connection there 700 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,920 alto together. 701 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,920 But I don't think in the long run that is a wise plan. 702 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,119 >> Well, especially if we don't have a 703 00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:51,920 connection going out in the west. 704 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,791 Sorry. 705 00:38:53,791 --> 00:38:55,040 [laughter] 706 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,599 >> Well, we've we've we the city has tried 707 00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:03,520 and uh you know in the general plan has mapped out the major roads and those 708 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,480 connections and where those should be. 709 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,040 So this is just simply carrying that 710 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,000 step forward based on this particular 711 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:23,829 property that is now wanting to develop. 712 00:39:23,839 --> 00:39:26,880 I guess the only um only thing I 713 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,400 question then is 714 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:38,390 are they doing this in proposed phases? 715 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,920 » Okay. And the 716 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,440 uh 717 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,079 north end is going to be the first part 718 00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:47,040 done. 719 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,359 >> Yep. There'll be a total of four phases. 720 00:39:49,359 --> 00:39:51,200 So we developed the cap piece in two 721 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,480 phases and then the peak peak uh 722 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,079 submission in two phases. 723 00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:58,640 >> Okay. And that's when the road will be 724 00:39:58,640 --> 00:39:59,440 put in as in 725 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,000 >> well the the road will have to be 726 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,079 connected there'll have to be connection 727 00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:06,800 from old fort road all the way through 728 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,800 to South Weber drive in the first phase. 729 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,599 Now they they can they can 730 00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:18,720 >> to get Yeah. Because right now there we are at the max number of of 731 00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:22,310 lots on 732 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,240 a a place where there's only one ingress 733 00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:26,400 and egress. 734 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:26,800 >> Okay. 735 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,520 >> Or 30 homes there already. So you their first phase will have to include a 736 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,599 road that goes all the way through to 737 00:40:33,599 --> 00:40:36,000 connect both of those so that they then 738 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,480 have the ingress and eress that they 739 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,000 need. But after that that um there 740 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,119 really wouldn't it really wouldn't 741 00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:44,720 matter too much how they decide to phase 742 00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:45,200 it. 743 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,359 >> Okay. Okay. And I I do appreciate the uh 744 00:40:49,359 --> 00:40:51,920 Patty Holmes being uh taken out from 745 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,160 that first review that we looked. 746 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,440 >> Um so okay, I think that's all my 747 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,000 questions. 748 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,000 >> Anyone else? 749 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:05,510 >> We'll look for a motion then. 750 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,960 Mayor, I make a motion. 751 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,839 We approve ordinance 752 00:41:11,839 --> 00:41:13,359 2026-04 753 00:41:13,359 --> 00:41:17,440 changing zoning for peak subdivision. 754 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,920 Second 755 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,040 motion and a second by council. 756 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,079 >> We roll call motion. 757 00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:26,800 >> We have a question discussion before 758 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:27,520 discussion. 759 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,599 >> Yeah. Discussion. Are we tying this to 760 00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:30,960 the number of laws that have been 761 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,720 proposed your motion? 762 00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:35,040 >> According to Joel, we it's automatic, 763 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,240 right? 764 00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:37,200 low or 765 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,079 >> do you want to include it in 766 00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:39,920 >> 10% is automatic if you want to keep it 767 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,920 to anything lower if you want to keep it 768 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,400 to anything lower than that 10%. So if 769 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,200 you've got 100 homes going in there that 770 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,000 gives you plus or minus 10 that can be 771 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,520 changed in that. So if you want to 772 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,440 reduce that number then it would have to 773 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,000 be tied to the approval. 774 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,000 >> Then you add that 775 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,640 >> I will modify my motion Michelle. Um 776 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,000 I'll just start over. Mayor make a 777 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,960 motion to approve ordinance 2026-04 778 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,920 changing zoning for peak subdivision 779 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:20,069 as presented um 780 00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:22,000 » for the for the lot density on the 781 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,000 current PL 782 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,800 >> um for the lot density on the current 783 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,680 plant presented to us. 784 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,520 Does that work Jamie? 785 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,040 >> Seconded. 786 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,119 Okay, 787 00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:36,640 we roll call vote starting with 788 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:37,680 Councilman Windsor. 789 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,280 >> I I 790 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,880 >> I 791 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,400 motion carry. Thank you. 792 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,319 Next item, 793 00:42:48,319 --> 00:42:51,200 conditional use permit 26-01 794 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,400 from Quick Trip. Have Braxton here from 795 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,160 Quick Trip and we'll ask him to come up 796 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,800 and turn the time to him. 797 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,880 >> Hi, Mayor. Hi, council. It's great to 798 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,680 see you guys. Um, I have a presentation. 799 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,680 We want to pull that up. Just giving you 800 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,599 a little background on Quick Trip, 801 00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:10,720 little background on the project, where 802 00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:13,760 we are so far, and then I'll take 803 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,839 questions at the end. So, we are Quick 804 00:43:15,839 --> 00:43:18,160 Trip. Um, we've been in business since 805 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,760 1958. 806 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,240 Started in Tulsa, Oklahoma. That's where 807 00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:24,880 I started. I started in stores, 16 years 808 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,920 old, worked my way up through the ranks. 809 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,079 um now been with the company for 15 810 00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:32,079 years and get to present in front of you 811 00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:33,680 guys and get to build the next 812 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,520 generation so that hopefully your 813 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,839 16-year-olds can go on and do exactly 814 00:43:37,839 --> 00:43:40,160 what I did. Um if we'll go to the next 815 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:45,510 slide. 816 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,920 Sweet. Uh members of this project are 817 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,680 going to be Jessica Glavis. She is our 818 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,920 real estate manager on this. She's the 819 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,079 one that did the land acquisition, 820 00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:55,760 purchasing, and worked with the 821 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,200 developer that previously owned the 822 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,359 property. I am Braxton Key. As I already 823 00:43:59,359 --> 00:44:00,480 said, I'm the real estate project 824 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,160 manager. I'm here to get it through 825 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,599 entitlements and through the permitting 826 00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:06,240 process. Uh we have Galloway as our 827 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:09,599 engineer. Um so Spencer is here with me 828 00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:11,839 and as well as Kylie Bailey. She is our 829 00:44:11,839 --> 00:44:14,079 engineer of record and then Brian Heran 830 00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:15,680 is our traffic engineer also from 831 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,640 Galloway. And then Strong and Hy are our 832 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,480 attorney on this project. Uh Reed 833 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,800 Lambert is leading the charge on that. 834 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,000 You can go to the next slide. 835 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,319 So a little bit about QuickRip. Um our 836 00:44:28,319 --> 00:44:30,240 main objective at Quickrip is to provide 837 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:31,440 opportunities to grow and succeed for 838 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,040 our employees. Um our founder as he left 839 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,520 the store operations side of things said 840 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,720 that if you're not taking care of your 841 00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:40,000 customers, you better be taking care of 842 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,079 your employees. And we still hold true 843 00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:44,400 to that today. Um I'm a testament of 844 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,240 that. They put me through college. 845 00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:48,240 They've provided me with a, you know, 846 00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:49,760 ample salary to come talk to you guys 847 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,520 and to be comfortable not to be looking 848 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,760 for other jobs. So, they they still take 849 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,440 care of their employees to this day. If 850 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,920 we can move on to the next slide, um, we 851 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,000 have five core values at Quick Trip. Be 852 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,400 the best, focus longterm, do what's 853 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,000 right for Quick Trip, never be 854 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,920 satisfied, and also to do the right 855 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,440 thing. Moving on, a little background on 856 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,599 the company. We have spent 15 years on 857 00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:15,440 Forb's uh Fortune or on Fortune's list 858 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,760 of 100 best companies to work for. We're 859 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,079 frequently on Forb's top 100 privately 860 00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:22,400 held companies. Um we create an average 861 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,880 of 20 new jobs per location. That is an 862 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,599 initial job creation phase. Uh 863 00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:29,119 throughout the course of a store, stores 864 00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:31,760 are usually in business 25 to 50 years 865 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,480 depending on the location. We if we shut 866 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,160 one down, we usually relocate it across 867 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,680 the street. So it's not going anywhere. 868 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,359 It'll stay in your community. But 869 00:45:39,359 --> 00:45:40,960 throughout the course of our store, we 870 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,839 anticipate anywhere from 400 to 600 jobs 871 00:45:43,839 --> 00:45:47,119 created um from that store. 872 00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:48,720 Quickrip has never laid off an employee 873 00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:50,960 in our history. Um we are very prideful 874 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,680 of that. Um we have been through thick 875 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,839 and thin with our employees and with our 876 00:45:55,839 --> 00:45:58,560 customers and we have been very blessed 877 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,240 to never have laid off a single 878 00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:02,160 employee. Our average store manager 879 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,040 salary starts around $100,000 to 880 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,599 $110,000 per year. That's our base 881 00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:10,400 average. Um, that is a full-time career. 882 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,680 That is a 9-to-f5. Well, it's 4 to 3, 883 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,319 but still it's Monday through Friday. 884 00:46:16,319 --> 00:46:18,480 Um, they work there. They get benefits. 885 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,760 They get stock. They get 401k. I mean, 886 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,359 they get everything that you would get 887 00:46:23,359 --> 00:46:26,480 at a career. And we pride ourselves on a 888 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,480 lot of our employees being over 10 years 889 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,720 with the company. Um, and especially 890 00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:32,800 with our managers, the average is more 891 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,079 than 10 years um with the company. Also, 892 00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:37,760 our assistant managers are well paid. 893 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,000 So, they start at about $55,000 per year 894 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,480 on average. Again, this is another 895 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,560 full-time job. It's Monday through 896 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,319 Friday. Some positions are going to be 897 00:46:46,319 --> 00:46:47,760 on the weekends, but still, it's a 898 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,240 full-time job. It's a foot in the door, 899 00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:52,160 an opportunity for you to grow within 900 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,520 the company, to move up, as I did. Um, 901 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,160 Quitrip also contributes 5% of our 902 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,240 profits every year to local 903 00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:02,319 organizations. Um, that is selected 904 00:47:02,319 --> 00:47:04,640 through our local stores. They have a 905 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,319 committee. They pick whatever in their 906 00:47:06,319 --> 00:47:08,240 community has the most need, whether 907 00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:10,560 that be United Way, Folds of Honor, 908 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,480 which is from my hometown of Aasa, 909 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,319 Oklahoma. We're very big proponents of 910 00:47:14,319 --> 00:47:16,960 that. Um, and then we donate to just 911 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,480 various organizations that reach out and 912 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,800 need help. Um, we have links all over 913 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,800 our website that you can go to. If you 914 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,640 guys know of a need, we would be happy 915 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,000 to donate to it. 916 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,839 >> We always have sponsorships available, 917 00:47:27,839 --> 00:47:29,119 too. 918 00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:32,800 >> Yes, I've been told. Uh, yes. [laughter] 919 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,280 So, um, we also are a national safe 920 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,920 place organization. So, if a, uh, youth 921 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,520 comes into our store asking for a safe 922 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,440 place, we call representatives from Safe 923 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,440 Place. They come and scoop up the youth 924 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,520 within 15 minutes and then police are 925 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,839 notified if if they need to be involved. 926 00:47:47,839 --> 00:47:50,480 Moving on to the next slide. Here's a 927 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:51,839 few pictures of our community 928 00:47:51,839 --> 00:47:54,560 involvement. Um, as you can see, we do a 929 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,160 wide variety of things all the way from 930 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,359 the MLK parade to Veterans Day to that 931 00:47:59,359 --> 00:48:01,599 the purple shirts are our day of caring 932 00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:03,920 with United Way. So, we go out to local 933 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,000 organizations within the community, um, 934 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,720 pick up shovels, move dirt, do do 935 00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:10,319 whatever they need us to do at that 936 00:48:10,319 --> 00:48:13,440 local uh, spot. We move on. Now, I'm 937 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:14,240 going to make you guys a little bit 938 00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:15,839 hungry before I get into the details of 939 00:48:15,839 --> 00:48:16,960 our plans. So, I'm going to show you 940 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,079 some of our fresh food options. These 941 00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:25,440 are our donuts. Um they are made they are excellent and they are they are 942 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,160 shipped here every day. Um they are made 943 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,240 fresh and they are they are fantastic. 944 00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:32,559 If we move on breakfast pizza this put 945 00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:35,200 on about 10 pounds on me uh when I 946 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,040 worked in the stores. So it is 947 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,040 delicious. I can attest to that. Here's 948 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,559 some of our sandwich options. And we got 949 00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:41,760 grilled cheese in the bottom right 950 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,559 corner. And all these are made fresh 951 00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:46,960 within our store. So if we can move on. 952 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,800 And then these this is our newest item 953 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,119 which are crispy snacks. So, we have all 954 00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:52,640 kinds of crispy snacks that we offer now 955 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,040 at all of our stores. Um, and every 956 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,200 store that's built here in Utah will 957 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,480 start off with crispy snacks. We're 958 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,800 going to retrofitting all the existing 959 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,960 inventory. Obviously, we can't slow 960 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,520 going. Uh, moving on to our site plan. 961 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,680 So, this is a picture of our site plan. 962 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,119 It is in your packet, but I just wanted 963 00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:10,800 to give you guys another visual 964 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,559 representation of our site plan. We have 965 00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:13,920 worked very diligently with your 966 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,760 planning commission and with your city 967 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,520 staff um to get to this point. If we can 968 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,839 move on, 969 00:49:21,839 --> 00:49:24,000 here are a few of the items that we have 970 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,160 um worked with planning commission and 971 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,400 staff on. So, we have reduced the height 972 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,599 of our pole sign by 40%. We have reduced 973 00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:34,319 the square footage by 43%. Um the pole 974 00:49:34,319 --> 00:49:35,839 sign was relocated from the south 975 00:49:35,839 --> 00:49:38,720 entrance to behind our trash enclosures. 976 00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:40,160 We have also reduced the number of 977 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,880 proposed monument signs to one. We have 978 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,960 added 20 additional trees along the 979 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,880 southern and western areas of our site 980 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,160 plan. This is to provide um as the 981 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,599 gentleman came up and spoke earlier to 982 00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:54,160 provide shading and a buffer from the 983 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,000 residential housing that is caddy corner 984 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,040 from us. We have also made the south 985 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,319 entrance a truck only entrance which we 986 00:50:02,319 --> 00:50:04,640 will provide signage um at that entrance 987 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,520 so that it is utilized only as a truck 988 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:08,960 entrance and as you can see on our site 989 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,599 plan it is very hard for trucks to ever 990 00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:14,240 exit from there. Um, and then we have 991 00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:15,920 also confirmed the location and 992 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,160 materials uh to satisfy neighbors and 993 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,079 planning commission for our fencing uh 994 00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:23,440 along the highway. We can move on now. 995 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:24,640 We're going to get into store design. 996 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,000 Here's a picture of your guys' lovely 997 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,319 quick trip. Hopefully, it'll come to 998 00:50:28,319 --> 00:50:31,760 fruition soon. We can move on. This is 999 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,040 the gas canopy, the proposed gas canopy. 1000 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,599 Here's the diesel canopy. And then 1001 00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:39,119 here's our proposed fencing that I 1002 00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:40,800 mentioned earlier. This is just a 1003 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,640 rendering. Um, I can get you guys 1004 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,880 inerson photos as well if if need be. 1005 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,200 >> Any questions? 1006 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,119 >> Thank you for the presentation. I 1007 00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:53,040 appreciate that and I love how succinct 1008 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:53,839 it was. 1009 00:50:53,839 --> 00:50:56,160 >> Um, my comment is on the fence. 1010 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,079 >> I am very opposed to a wood fence right 1011 00:50:58,079 --> 00:50:58,800 there. Okay, 1012 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,640 >> that is entrance of our city and we had 1013 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,640 this discussion on council several 1014 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,960 months ago about how that should look 1015 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,520 and so we decided to maintain a masonry 1016 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,200 fence for a sixft masonry fence for that 1017 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,720 specific location. 1018 00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:15,680 >> So we have required that on our frontage 1019 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,359 on I84 1020 00:51:17,359 --> 00:51:20,319 and so we'd like to continue that here 1021 00:51:20,319 --> 00:51:22,640 >> if if that's a conditional condition for 1022 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,520 approval as I showed on our slide. We we 1023 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:26,880 are more than happy to work with you 1024 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,800 guys. 1025 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,440 >> It's a condition for me. [laughter] 1026 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:36,870 >> It is me. 1027 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:37,599 » Anyone else? 1028 00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:41,440 Any other questions? 1029 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,599 >> Not for the developer. 1030 00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:48,309 >> Can I get your opinions on the fence? 1031 00:51:48,319 --> 00:51:50,720 » Rude. 1032 00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:52,800 >> I'll ask Jeremy. Jeremy, how do you feel 1033 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,319 about the fence? [laughter] 1034 00:51:54,319 --> 00:51:56,079 Uh, I like the idea of a masonry fence. 1035 00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:57,760 I think that'll make it look a lot 1036 00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,760 better than than the one that's been 1037 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,319 proposed. My my question would be, is 1038 00:52:02,319 --> 00:52:03,680 that going to be irrelevant because 1039 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:04,880 they're going to put up a sound wall 1040 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,319 once they redo 89 anyway? Do we know 1041 00:52:08,319 --> 00:52:09,920 >> if we'll cut that? 1042 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,359 >> That's a long ways away. 1043 00:52:11,359 --> 00:52:12,000 >> Yeah. 1044 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,280 >> Okay. 1045 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:14,720 >> That doesn't want to put as a 1046 00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:17,119 requirement. Then there's a 12T sound 1047 00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:18,480 wall that goes right in front of it or 1048 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,720 something, you know. 1049 00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:23,280 But if that's not going to be a concern, 1050 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,720 >> the new interchange 1051 00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:29,599 that they're doing at 84, 1052 00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:31,680 uh, the sound wall is going to be part 1053 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:32,640 of that. 1054 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,160 >> Is that going to be on both sides? 1055 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:35,920 >> It shows it on their plan. 1056 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:36,240 >> Okay. 1057 00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:38,160 >> But the sound wall does not come that 1058 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,200 far. In fact, it stops 1059 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,359 >> right about there. 1060 00:52:43,359 --> 00:52:43,920 >> Okay. 1061 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,920 >> Maybe just about there. 1062 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,520 >> Okay. So then it would make sense to 1063 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,720 continue a masonry wall there. I think I would look good. Yeah. 1064 00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:51,839 >> Okay. Thank you. 1065 00:52:51,839 --> 00:52:54,640 >> And and when I I'd say masonry just so 1066 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,880 that he doesn't see, hey, I'm cutting 1067 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:57,920 you off. 1068 00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:58,800 >> You had a chance. 1069 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,000 You said no. 1070 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,559 >> Okay. Uh 1071 00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:05,119 but [laughter] uh it it isn't a huge 1072 00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:06,960 dollar thing either. I think the masonry 1073 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,200 fences, if you look as we as you go down 1074 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,720 84, they're they're they've been nice. 1075 00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:15,280 They're not a I mean, it's not a 1076 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,480 >> what I want to say. It's not like you're 1077 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:17,440 building a sound wall. 1078 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,240 >> Yeah. But it there it's a just a nice 1079 00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:22,000 looking masonry wall. 1080 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:22,720 >> Yeah. 1081 00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:24,079 >> Not a cinder block. 1082 00:53:24,079 --> 00:53:25,839 >> Yeah. 1083 00:53:25,839 --> 00:53:27,359 >> Now, and if you've ever been to any of 1084 00:53:27,359 --> 00:53:29,040 our sites, which we don't have any here 1085 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,680 in Utah to be examples, we will soon in 1086 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,200 Marriott Slaterville, but you'll notice 1087 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,760 that we maintain all of our sites to the 1088 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,760 utmost excellence and we we hold 1089 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,760 ourselves to a higher standard than most 1090 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,160 of our competitors. 1091 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,640 >> Can you clarify specifically where 1092 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,480 you're requiring that as a condition? 1093 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,440 Yeah, that's a great idea. 1094 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:50,640 >> Bible site plan. 1095 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,400 >> Um, yeah. Can we go to site plan? 1096 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,160 >> Can we give uh Wayne an opportunity to 1097 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:56,720 speak? 1098 00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:59,280 >> Oh my goodness. 1099 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:00,079 >> And she's running around the meeting 1100 00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:02,240 though, so I guess I got 1101 00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:02,960 >> I'll allow it. 1102 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,880 >> Councilman Windsor, would you like to 1103 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,040 comment? 1104 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,359 >> May I? Yes, ma'am. 1105 00:54:09,359 --> 00:54:11,520 Uh, I I do agree that wood fence is more 1106 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,040 dilapidated is going to fall apart. But 1107 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,240 my question would be when you say 1108 00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:16,000 masonry wall, masonry fence, you're 1109 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,880 talking 4 foot, 6 foot, 10 foot. What? 1110 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:19,760 >> Six foot. 1111 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:20,400 >> Sorry. 1112 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:21,119 >> Six foot. 1113 00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:22,400 >> Six. Okay. I thought you said eight. 1114 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:23,680 That was the one number I didn't say. So 1115 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,839 I want to make sure of six foot. 1116 00:54:25,839 --> 00:54:27,119 >> Six foot. Yeah. 1117 00:54:27,119 --> 00:54:28,240 >> Pre-cast is what you're talking about. 1118 00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:29,520 >> Yes. Pre-cast. Yes. 1119 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,200 >> Wayne, I I do want to point out though, 1120 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,599 we we do not have a single wood fence in 1121 00:54:33,599 --> 00:54:35,119 our entire inventory that's dilapidated 1122 00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:38,880 or run down. So we we do maintain very 1123 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,880 well. 1124 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,119 Never met south or winds. 1125 00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:44,319 >> Yeah. 1126 00:54:44,319 --> 00:54:46,319 >> But yes, no, we we are more than happy 1127 00:54:46,319 --> 00:54:49,040 to abide by the condition. 1128 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,480 >> I think a masonry fence also offers some 1129 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,000 uh safety features. 1130 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:54,559 >> Yeah. 1131 00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:57,760 >> You know, you get uh fires along the 1132 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,040 highways. We had one this past summer on 1133 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,359 84 next to RV park. 1134 00:55:03,359 --> 00:55:03,599 >> Yeah. 1135 00:55:03,599 --> 00:55:05,280 >> And if it hadn't been for a masonry 1136 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,680 wall, that RV park would have been 1137 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:08,400 toast. 1138 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:08,800 >> Yeah. 1139 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,480 >> So, 1140 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,359 That's 1141 00:55:13,359 --> 00:55:15,760 >> where was the 1142 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,400 >> extent of the wood fence going trying to 1143 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,200 >> It was against the 89. 1144 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:22,800 >> There should be a call out. 1145 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,319 >> I was looking for it. I I saw it 1146 00:55:24,319 --> 00:55:26,319 earlier. I just 1147 00:55:26,319 --> 00:55:30,710 >> It's on page 120. 1148 00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:32,559 » Sign 1149 00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:35,200 the dumpster. 1150 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:40,710 >> On page 120, it shows the fence. 1151 00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:44,240 which is the east side and also the 1152 00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:47,750 north side. 1153 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,359 » I I think what was proposed was the east 1154 00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:53,359 property line would have the wood feds. 1155 00:55:53,359 --> 00:55:54,319 >> Yeah, it was called. 1156 00:55:54,319 --> 00:55:56,000 >> Yeah, it's right here. Right here in the 1157 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,799 right there where your mouse just was 1158 00:55:58,799 --> 00:56:00,720 >> right there. 1159 00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:03,280 >> Is it east and east north or I mean 1160 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,440 >> just east? Well, there's if you want to 1161 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,200 simplify it and just say the east 1162 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:08,559 property line and the north property 1163 00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:08,960 line. 1164 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:14,309 >> Yes, that's what I've Yep. 1165 00:56:14,319 --> 00:56:16,160 » So, do you want you want are you 1166 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:17,680 suggesting that it be on both property 1167 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,359 lines or just the east property line? 1168 00:56:19,359 --> 00:56:21,040 >> I think so. 1169 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,040 >> I think both. This is this is the corner 1170 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,200 entrance of our city, so I don't see why 1171 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,920 we would want it on one and not the 1172 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,599 other because there would be need to be 1173 00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:34,549 a fence there anyways regardless. 1174 00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:36,720 Um, one quick question that I did have 1175 00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:38,720 was that during your presentation you 1176 00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:40,799 mentioned that you were only having one 1177 00:56:40,799 --> 00:56:42,319 sign, 1178 00:56:42,319 --> 00:56:44,400 >> one monument sign. 1179 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:45,839 >> Yes. And the one pole sign, which will 1180 00:56:45,839 --> 00:56:47,839 be our big 60 foot. 1181 00:56:47,839 --> 00:56:48,240 >> Okay. 1182 00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:49,040 >> Pull sign. 1183 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,760 >> Um, as we go through this, it's 1184 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,559 important to me, so point it out if I 1185 00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:59,119 don't catch it. um that we give equal 1186 00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:02,640 um uh accessibility and freedom if you 1187 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,359 will to both businesses. Um I don't want 1188 00:57:05,359 --> 00:57:09,280 this to uh in any way 1189 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,720 hinder our current maverick. Um but 1190 00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:14,240 anything that we've also allowed I think 1191 00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:16,480 is also clearly uh should be pointed out 1192 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,960 and allowed um to any other businesses 1193 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,040 that would come here. Well, in in the 1194 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,720 background, the reduction of the sign 1195 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,040 was due to neighbors concern of light 1196 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,119 shining into their window. And so, we 1197 00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:28,799 were trying our best to accommodate. And 1198 00:57:28,799 --> 00:57:31,280 so, at that distance, with our canopy 1199 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,040 height being 20 ft 1200 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,040 >> and then that sign only being 60 ft, as 1201 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:36,480 you move further away, that canopy is 1202 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,319 going to start shielding that a little 1203 00:57:38,319 --> 00:57:40,640 bit more. So, our hope is that the 1204 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,119 residential properties won't ever see 1205 00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:44,720 it. But, if they do, it'll be as 1206 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,720 mitigated as possible because the 1207 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,079 original placement of the sign was on 1208 00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:50,960 that southern entrance. Okay. Um, and I 1209 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,200 did see the landscaping on it and I do 1210 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,440 greatly appreciate the the trees that 1211 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,119 are going inside there, especially the 1212 00:57:57,119 --> 00:57:58,640 honey locust. They'll they will do 1213 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,549 perfect there. So 1214 00:58:02,559 --> 00:58:04,559 » Jo did touch on my question, but it 1215 00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:05,920 wasn't necessarily for the developers, 1216 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,079 more for the planning commission and or 1217 00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:11,119 staff. And it's like I'm I'm very much 1218 00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:13,359 troubled by these left turn only medians 1219 00:58:13,359 --> 00:58:17,280 that are on the frontage road um and 1220 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,319 assate they cause. This isn't the 1221 00:58:20,319 --> 00:58:22,000 developer doing this is he's doing it 1222 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,160 because it was directed by someone. 1223 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,319 Could that someone please explain to us 1224 00:58:26,319 --> 00:58:28,960 why this is more beneficial than not? 1225 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,520 them there. Can we just get rid of them? 1226 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,839 >> I I can respond to that. You may not 1227 00:58:33,839 --> 00:58:38,079 like my response, but the city council 1228 00:58:38,079 --> 00:58:41,520 adopted a transportation master plan and 1229 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,920 we had a whole section in there 1230 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,040 addressing this stretch of road 1231 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,520 in that plan because we knew that 1232 00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,680 something may someday happen on this 1233 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,119 property. And so we we hired a a traffic 1234 00:58:55,119 --> 00:58:57,599 consultant to give us recommendations on 1235 00:58:57,599 --> 00:58:59,760 what they felt would be the best way to 1236 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,799 address this ahead of time so that when 1237 00:59:02,799 --> 00:59:04,960 someone comes in, we would be prepared 1238 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,440 and we could respond accordingly. So 1239 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,280 what you see before you is just 1240 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,839 basically implementing that plan to as 1241 00:59:11,839 --> 00:59:14,880 far as we could do it without the city 1242 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,880 having to come up with the additional 1243 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,480 funds to basically widen it to one more 1244 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,920 lane. Um well really it's two lanes cuz 1245 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,559 what's being proposed is is three lanes, 1246 00:59:26,559 --> 00:59:32,400 a lane in each direction and a center lane. Uh the long-term plan was 1247 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,640 five lanes or two lanes in each 1248 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,839 direction and a center lane. Um as well 1249 00:59:37,839 --> 00:59:41,280 as a roundabout at 7,800. 1250 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:42,960 So 1251 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,640 the the the roundabout um 1252 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,640 was beyond the scope of of their full 1253 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,720 impact and so it uh the city would be on 1254 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,680 the hook to pay for a portion of that. 1255 00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,119 Um as well as additional widening. 1256 01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:03,440 Um as I think you're well aware, the 1257 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,000 city does not have money to put towards 1258 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,920 a project of that magnitude at this 1259 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:12,240 time. We have submitted uh a grant 1260 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:16,079 application to be able to do the 1261 01:00:16,079 --> 01:00:18,160 additional work. Um but that would be 1262 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,559 years in the future. 1263 01:00:20,559 --> 01:00:22,480 If I recall from the meeting when we 1264 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,280 talked about this um there was some 1265 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,319 concern about 1266 01:00:28,319 --> 01:00:31,359 if if what we were potentially going to 1267 01:00:31,359 --> 01:00:35,920 plan for was was the right thing to do. 1268 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,440 Um so right now there is no roundabout 1269 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,799 being proposed. Uh there's only the 1270 01:00:42,799 --> 01:00:44,799 three lanes. 1271 01:00:44,799 --> 01:00:47,760 It you you could move forward with this 1272 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,599 as as it is. um and just see how things 1273 01:00:51,599 --> 01:00:54,559 go. And if it feels like it's becoming a 1274 01:00:54,559 --> 01:00:57,599 problem, then you know, if if we were 1275 01:00:57,599 --> 01:00:59,920 able to get additional grant funding and 1276 01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:04,480 you wanted to widen it and go for the roundabout, if you felt like that 1277 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,240 was the the safest thing to do, you 1278 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,520 could do that. Um as far as the medians 1279 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,799 go, that was part of it. 1280 01:01:12,799 --> 01:01:15,200 Um actually, 1281 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,839 there was a single median. It was not 1282 01:01:17,839 --> 01:01:19,119 broken up so that you could go through 1283 01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:21,359 it. It was a single median with the full 1284 01:01:21,359 --> 01:01:23,760 intent of anything leaving Maverick 1285 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,400 would have to go up and go around the 1286 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:32,559 roundabout to come back down. Um, so I'm I get blamed a lot for things and I 1287 01:01:32,559 --> 01:01:34,400 just wanted to clarify that when we did 1288 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,960 that one, it was a single median going 1289 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,680 up that road. So, 1290 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,520 >> right. But but restricting left-hand 1291 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:45,040 turns. So, so what is in front of you 1292 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:49,200 would actually allow 1293 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,359 residents or whoever is trying to get to 1294 01:01:51,359 --> 01:01:55,119 Maverick to turn left into that. Um, 1295 01:01:55,119 --> 01:01:56,880 which I guess allows one more movement 1296 01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,599 than what was in the plan. 1297 01:01:59,599 --> 01:02:02,079 >> Um, I'm not saying the plane was right. 1298 01:02:02,079 --> 01:02:04,160 I'm just saying 1299 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,240 that those turns in there, they weren't 1300 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:07,839 in there when we approved it. 1301 01:02:07,839 --> 01:02:08,720 >> Right. 1302 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,400 >> Be great. I I I have to say that that uh 1303 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,880 in my professional opinion, I think the 1304 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,079 safer thing is to leave the medians. 1305 01:02:18,079 --> 01:02:20,880 >> Brandon, is there any laws that would be 1306 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:22,480 broken if we did not put those medians 1307 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:23,599 in? 1308 01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:25,440 >> Uh no laws that I'm aware of. 1309 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:26,960 >> My insurance would go up because my 1310 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:30,000 daughter would So, I'm sorry. I didn't 1311 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,200 mean to interrupt. I had another 1312 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:32,079 question. 1313 01:02:32,079 --> 01:02:33,200 >> Go ahead. 1314 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:34,960 >> So, what we're asking if we don't put 1315 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,000 the meetings in there, we're relying 1316 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,799 upon public to be 1317 01:02:38,799 --> 01:02:40,640 the public and be safe and make 1318 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,400 conscious decisions to make left and 1319 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,799 right turns and be a little courteous 1320 01:02:44,799 --> 01:02:46,640 rather than forcing the the traffic 1321 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:47,920 pattern 1322 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:49,520 >> if we didn't put the medians in. 1323 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:50,720 >> That That's correct. 1324 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,640 >> Would we be liable for any accident if 1325 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,280 we did not put the medians in? 1326 01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,839 that I that I can't respond to because 1327 01:02:57,839 --> 01:03:00,000 if if you are are knowingly doing 1328 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:04,319 something that that um could be 1329 01:03:04,319 --> 01:03:09,040 demonstrated that is is uh 1330 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:09,440 not 1331 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:15,349 >> Amy, could you weigh in real quick? 1332 01:03:15,359 --> 01:03:18,240 As all of you I I hope know by now, 1333 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,280 liability in Utah can be shared and if 1334 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,000 there are defects in the design or 1335 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,160 dangerous conditions created as a result 1336 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,119 of the design, um cities can be held 1337 01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:32,319 responsible for that. I'm not a 1338 01:03:32,319 --> 01:03:34,319 transportation engineer or a design 1339 01:03:34,319 --> 01:03:36,000 professional on that and so I defer to 1340 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,480 the expertise of our city attorney, but 1341 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,240 I I think he's given you good 1342 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,480 recommendations on what or city 1343 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,640 engineer. He's given you good 1344 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,079 recommendations on um what he deems to 1345 01:03:48,079 --> 01:03:51,760 be the safest design there. I will say, 1346 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,400 you know, you can reach a level where 1347 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,000 you're sanitizing the environment more 1348 01:03:58,000 --> 01:03:59,680 than what would be required, right? 1349 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,920 We're not required to bubble bubble wrap 1350 01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,559 the city so that no accident can ever 1351 01:04:04,559 --> 01:04:07,680 occur. But you do have to follow sound 1352 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,079 engineering principles, establish design 1353 01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:13,280 practices. And I think within that there 1354 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,760 are typically ranges of options that are 1355 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,640 available and Brandon can probably guide 1356 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,559 you on, you know, what those choices are 1357 01:04:20,559 --> 01:04:23,119 and what are the reasonable choices 1358 01:04:23,119 --> 01:04:25,680 there. If you depart from what he 1359 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,559 recommends, I would only advise that you 1360 01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:30,640 do that if you do it after some study 1361 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:34,160 and review to make sure that what you're 1362 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,200 doing fits within the established and 1363 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,799 accepted designs. 1364 01:04:38,799 --> 01:04:40,319 >> Okay. Thank you, Brandon. Please 1365 01:04:40,319 --> 01:04:42,319 continue. 1366 01:04:42,319 --> 01:04:44,000 >> Angie, I didn't catch your question, so 1367 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:45,119 I'm open to it now. 1368 01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:47,680 >> It was nothing. It was just hilarious. 1369 01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:51,829 That's all. 1370 01:04:51,839 --> 01:04:55,119 Did I answer the question? 1371 01:04:55,119 --> 01:04:56,400 Do you have 1372 01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:57,839 >> question? 1373 01:04:57,839 --> 01:04:59,520 >> Yeah, I I warned you that you probably 1374 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,680 wouldn't. 1375 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,520 >> Is there no other option that is 1376 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,119 possible? Because that's I think that's 1377 01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:07,039 the thing that was causing the most 1378 01:05:07,039 --> 01:05:09,039 consternation in all the comments that 1379 01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:12,799 I've heard and you've heard. I think um 1380 01:05:12,799 --> 01:05:15,200 >> is there no other 1381 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,720 >> plausible option? I let I if I could 1382 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:24,000 just go back in time a little bit when Maverick came in, they owned the 1383 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:25,920 property to the point where they put 1384 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,680 their access. 1385 01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,160 So, the city did not require them to go 1386 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,400 and purchase additional property to move 1387 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,240 that access farther south, which would 1388 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,160 have been ideal 1389 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,079 because it it we knew that it was too 1390 01:05:38,079 --> 01:05:40,079 close to the intersection, but it's the 1391 01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:44,640 property they owned and they needed an access on to South Bieber Drive and 1392 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,760 on to 2700 East. So, that's just how it 1393 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:51,119 came to be. When Car Wash came in, they 1394 01:05:51,119 --> 01:05:53,359 only owned up to where that second 1395 01:05:53,359 --> 01:05:56,319 property or that second access is. So 1396 01:05:56,319 --> 01:05:58,160 that's where it went. And as long as 1397 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,400 nobody's across the street, it's fine as 1398 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,920 you've seen, right? It works just fine. 1399 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,520 But now that you've got somebody coming 1400 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,839 in across the street, 1401 01:06:07,839 --> 01:06:11,280 those access locations are not where 1402 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,319 they should be ideally. This the spacing 1403 01:06:14,319 --> 01:06:16,559 between them is is 1404 01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:20,960 uh is not ideal. Therefore, the you have 1405 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,680 queuing in the center median that could 1406 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,000 be in conflict with each other. while 1407 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,280 there's people trying to turn left out 1408 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,640 of both businesses on both sides. So, 1409 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:37,039 the the the potential for conflicts 1410 01:06:37,039 --> 01:06:39,520 goes way up. You can eliminate a lot of 1411 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,680 those by putting in the center median 1412 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,839 and only allowing them to turn right. I 1413 01:06:43,839 --> 01:06:46,319 mean, I recognize that that is not 1414 01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:49,680 ideal, but it is the current situation 1415 01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,599 that we have before us. 1416 01:06:51,599 --> 01:06:54,640 >> What about the I mean, I get it. 1417 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,640 Maverick's entrance is close to the 1418 01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,160 intersection. 1419 01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,640 Morty's is another what? 1420 01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:04,079 >> It's super close. I don't know. Another 1421 01:07:04,079 --> 01:07:05,680 >> Well, they have the shared and then it's 1422 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,359 just up. 1423 01:07:07,359 --> 01:07:08,319 >> Yeah. 1424 01:07:08,319 --> 01:07:09,920 >> I'm just trying to think of how you get 1425 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,079 people because you can turn over into 1426 01:07:12,079 --> 01:07:13,599 more. I mean, I went over there five 1427 01:07:13,599 --> 01:07:15,200 times to look through this trying to 1428 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,520 figure it out. The last thing I still 1429 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,599 want is people turning and going up into 1430 01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:21,119 the neighborhood or even turning and 1431 01:07:21,119 --> 01:07:23,680 trying to come back down around through 1432 01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:24,799 QT. 1433 01:07:24,799 --> 01:07:25,680 >> Agreed. 1434 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,280 >> And that's what's going to happen. 1435 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,119 >> But don't you think behavior will change 1436 01:07:29,119 --> 01:07:30,480 though, 1437 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:31,280 >> Blair? 1438 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:32,240 >> Huh? 1439 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:32,799 >> Yeah. 1440 01:07:32,799 --> 01:07:34,960 >> Not Not I mean it might change in mind 1441 01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,440 cuz right you know I'm I'm stopping at 1442 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,440 one of these places every morning 1443 01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,520 because and I'll learn it but the people 1444 01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:42,960 who are just coming in are going to pull 1445 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,960 out and not know. Yeah, the issues with 1446 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,039 trailers, you know, RVs and stuff like 1447 01:07:49,039 --> 01:07:50,480 that, they're coming into the Maverick 1448 01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:51,599 where they go out 1449 01:07:51,599 --> 01:07:53,039 >> unless they're going all the way around 1450 01:07:53,039 --> 01:07:53,680 and back. 1451 01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,079 >> And with a trailer, like let's say 1452 01:07:56,079 --> 01:07:57,920 someone goes to their dump, and I hate 1453 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,119 to keep going back to there to to 1454 01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:03,280 someone who's had gave public comment in 1455 01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:04,960 planning commission. She was very 1456 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:06,640 accurate. Go try to pull out of there in 1457 01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,200 a trailer. Now turn, you're going to 1458 01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:10,960 turn right. Now go find somewhere to 1459 01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:11,760 turn around. 1460 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,359 >> Church parking lot. you're gonna have to 1461 01:08:13,359 --> 01:08:16,239 go find a great big parking lot. And 1462 01:08:16,239 --> 01:08:19,040 yeah, I I I I I 1463 01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,600 do not like the medians. There's got to 1464 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,080 be another solution to that. I mean, I I 1465 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:25,920 get it. I I agree with Brandon. I 1466 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,000 understand why it's there. I never did 1467 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:29,440 agree with the roundabouts on the 1468 01:08:29,440 --> 01:08:32,719 traffic studies. So, I mean, is there a 1469 01:08:32,719 --> 01:08:35,359 way to widen the road, do something 1470 01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:37,600 there? I just paint stripe it have it as 1471 01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,000 a left turn like 1472 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,080 >> lines on each side no median and allow 1473 01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:43,839 people to make conscious decision I' run 1474 01:08:43,839 --> 01:08:47,120 into each other I mean come on we could 1475 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,279 do another round of study I would 1476 01:08:49,279 --> 01:08:51,839 recommend that you do a third party 1477 01:08:51,839 --> 01:08:56,480 that's outside of us um 1478 01:08:56,480 --> 01:08:59,920 and see if there's additional some some 1479 01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:02,400 other option that maybe hasn't been 1480 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,880 discovered yet. Um, the only thing I 1481 01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,880 would I I guess I would wonder is it's 1482 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:14,640 related to the to QT's application, but 1483 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,480 um it's a little bit difficult for them 1484 01:09:18,480 --> 01:09:23,120 to be kind of uh hamstrung by the the 1485 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,520 road and yet it is part of the issue. 1486 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:29,040 So, if there was a way that if you want 1487 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,239 to do additional studies that they could 1488 01:09:32,239 --> 01:09:33,759 have the assurance of of like their 1489 01:09:33,759 --> 01:09:36,000 conditional use permit 1490 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,560 that they're going to get that, but 1491 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,679 still allow for additional study and and 1492 01:09:41,679 --> 01:09:44,719 be able to continue that. Um, that might 1493 01:09:44,719 --> 01:09:48,799 be a way to help them know that that 1494 01:09:48,799 --> 01:09:51,839 what they're proposing is is uh 1495 01:09:51,839 --> 01:09:53,520 acceptable to you with the conditions 1496 01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,880 that you place. But if you're not 1497 01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:58,719 comfortable with how the road is 1498 01:09:58,719 --> 01:10:02,800 currently designed or laid out, then 1499 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,159 we can study it more. Or you can just 1500 01:10:06,159 --> 01:10:08,320 eliminate the the [clears throat] uh 1501 01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,520 medians altogether and and just move 1502 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,880 forward. But I cannot in good conscience 1503 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,920 say that I think that's a good idea. 1504 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:21,920 >> And I I'm not a fan of the medians. 1505 01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,440 That's why I voted no originally. I 1506 01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:25,199 wanted to make sure that we talked about 1507 01:10:25,199 --> 01:10:28,000 that. But looking at what's coming in 1508 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:31,199 here, looking at the options that we 1509 01:10:31,199 --> 01:10:33,199 really do have. You have a lot more 1510 01:10:33,199 --> 01:10:35,920 faith in people than I do. Um, I've got 1511 01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,000 an RV and I've tried pulling out of 1512 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,440 Maverick many of times and um, there's a 1513 01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:43,760 lot of times that 1514 01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,560 um, well, let's just say that uh, kids 1515 01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,239 don't necessarily have the the most 1516 01:10:48,239 --> 01:10:50,719 wisdom when they're making uh, decisions 1517 01:10:50,719 --> 01:10:54,640 like this. If 1518 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,920 this hurts, if our city engineer 1519 01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:01,040 is saying that he honestly believes this 1520 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,800 is the best and safest route that we can 1521 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:08,000 do, I don't see how having another 1522 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,520 engineer come in that we don't love and 1523 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,400 admire um as a third party try to tell 1524 01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,840 us, well, maybe we could do this. I feel 1525 01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,080 that you've really you you've done a 1526 01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:25,040 good job on it. the best job that's available. I don't see any other 1527 01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:26,719 way that this would be able to work and 1528 01:11:26,719 --> 01:11:30,159 still be equal to both sides. 1529 01:11:30,159 --> 01:11:34,080 I I don't like it, but I also don't see 1530 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,480 any other way to do it. I do I've seen 1531 01:11:36,480 --> 01:11:38,159 what QT has done where they've decided 1532 01:11:38,159 --> 01:11:40,239 to have the trucks only going up in 1533 01:11:40,239 --> 01:11:44,159 there. Um, and I am anxious to see that. 1534 01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:47,120 Um, the exit only down lower. I think 1535 01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,000 they've done uh quite a bit to make sure 1536 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,840 that 1537 01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:57,280 they work with what we've got. So, um I 1538 01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,679 I'm just I guess I'm letting council 1539 01:11:59,679 --> 01:12:02,719 know that I think this is uh the best 1540 01:12:02,719 --> 01:12:05,760 option that we've got. Um and not happy 1541 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,520 with it, but it is the best. 1542 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:08,159 >> And sorry, 1543 01:12:08,159 --> 01:12:09,760 >> I do want to add one comment to that. 1544 01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:11,840 So, we we worked with Brandon and staff 1545 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:16,159 for six months on this and we explored 1546 01:12:16,159 --> 01:12:17,360 all the options that you guys brought 1547 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,280 up. We explored just painting. We 1548 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,520 explored this. We explored just straight 1549 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,440 median and this was the best one that we 1550 01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:25,040 could come up with, which was we're 1551 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:26,320 actually adding an additional lane. 1552 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:27,920 We're giving up some of our land. Yeah. 1553 01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,640 >> Adding an additional lane to turn right 1554 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,199 onto South Beaver Drive, which we were 1555 01:12:33,199 --> 01:12:35,360 hoping would be the safest. But I just 1556 01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:38,080 want to reiterate that we we've tried to 1557 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,560 exhaust every avenue that we have on 1558 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,560 this and 1559 01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,000 I I didn't want you guys to think we 1560 01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,360 weren't weren't working with you on 1561 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:45,679 that. 1562 01:12:45,679 --> 01:12:47,600 >> No. And that's the point is that I don't 1563 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,239 see how spending more money asking the 1564 01:12:50,239 --> 01:12:52,159 same question over and over hoping for a 1565 01:12:52,159 --> 01:12:53,040 different outcome is 1566 01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:54,239 >> right 1567 01:12:54,239 --> 01:12:56,159 >> is the right move. 1568 01:12:56,159 --> 01:12:57,920 >> I I just also want to say that if you 1569 01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,520 guys think that Maverick isn't going to 1570 01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,360 do something to account for this, I 1571 01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,760 think you're crazy. like this is one of 1572 01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,960 their top 10 stores in their entire 1573 01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:10,800 company and uh and if they were in 1574 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:18,480 QuickTits uh position, they'd be going to town to to get what 1575 01:13:18,480 --> 01:13:21,520 they want in in that spot. So, while 1576 01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,760 Maverick is great and I and I go there 1577 01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:25,280 and I specifically buy my gas in 1578 01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:26,960 Maverick because it helps the city. 1579 01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,280 That's I always I don't get my gas 1580 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,679 anywhere else at the moment. 1581 01:13:31,679 --> 01:13:33,199 Um, 1582 01:13:33,199 --> 01:13:34,960 but I think a lot of the concerns that 1583 01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:36,480 have been brought up by this the 1584 01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:39,600 citizenry is they want the status quo to 1585 01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,400 continue and I think the status quo 1586 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,800 needs to change anyway. 1587 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:46,560 So, 1588 01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:50,880 um, if we approve this as is, I 1589 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,280 guarantee you one of the first things 1590 01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,040 that Maverick does is they're going to 1591 01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,840 do some refinaging on their property to 1592 01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,400 make it easy for trucks and and things 1593 01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,400 to go in and out of that place. 1594 01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:03,679 >> Probably do. 1595 01:14:03,679 --> 01:14:05,360 >> Um, I don't know how they would do it, 1596 01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:06,960 but there's no way they just like sit on 1597 01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:08,800 their laurels and not do anything. 1598 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,480 There's no way they just give up like 1599 01:14:10,480 --> 01:14:12,159 that. They're too big of an organization 1600 01:14:12,159 --> 01:14:14,400 and that that store makes them way too 1601 01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,360 much money in my opinion. 1602 01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,920 >> That's the point. If by doing this we 1603 01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:21,679 hinder their business by forcing the 1604 01:14:21,679 --> 01:14:23,600 competition by forcing their customers 1605 01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,199 to go to their competition because they 1606 01:14:25,199 --> 01:14:26,560 can't get out and do what they need to 1607 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,120 do. That's my concern. I got to come 1608 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,679 after the city by by penalizing them 1609 01:14:31,679 --> 01:14:33,120 because right now if I got a trail and 1610 01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:34,960 I'm in a mad I'm going to go up and I'm 1611 01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:36,719 going to drive through quick to turn 1612 01:14:36,719 --> 01:14:38,960 around to go back out on South Drive. 1613 01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:40,159 That's the quickest way turn back 1614 01:14:40,159 --> 01:14:41,199 around. 1615 01:14:41,199 --> 01:14:43,280 >> Well, what I'm saying is that if you 1616 01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:44,640 think that Maverick isn't going to 1617 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,400 change their setup somehow to better 1618 01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:47,760 accommodate their traffic, 1619 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,760 >> why should they have to? I mean, I'm not 1620 01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:50,880 trying to try to defend it, but why 1621 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,199 should I have to? If the city allows 1622 01:14:53,199 --> 01:14:55,199 this to happen, they're they're damaging 1623 01:14:55,199 --> 01:14:58,080 their c their customers capabilities. 1624 01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:59,760 >> Yeah. I don't see it that way. I see it 1625 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:01,199 from the perspective of 1626 01:15:01,199 --> 01:15:02,560 >> if I find a trailer, I'm not going to go 1627 01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:03,679 to Maverick because it's hard for me to 1628 01:15:03,679 --> 01:15:04,640 get out of there. I'm going to go to the 1629 01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:06,159 other one. Now, they just took business 1630 01:15:06,159 --> 01:15:07,840 away from Maverick. 1631 01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:09,840 >> Sure. That's a free market. 1632 01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:10,480 >> Sure. Then 1633 01:15:10,480 --> 01:15:14,630 >> Quick's not going to have 1634 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,560 » football. 1635 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,480 How else do you do it? 1636 01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:19,840 >> I mean, Maverick will be the only one 1637 01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:20,560 that has that 1638 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,040 >> stupid dope, but then 1639 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:24,960 I guess 1640 01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:26,000 >> I'm not trying to make an argument 1641 01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,480 either way. I'm saying it's it's it's 1642 01:15:28,480 --> 01:15:30,640 damaging one for another. And I'm like, 1643 01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,159 how can we make it even? How can we make 1644 01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:32,800 it fair? 1645 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:41,669 >> I agree. 1646 01:15:41,679 --> 01:15:44,719 I would still vote to take it out. 1647 01:15:44,719 --> 01:15:45,760 >> Take out the median. 1648 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,000 >> Yep. No roundabout. No median. 1649 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,239 >> What would you do instead of the instead 1650 01:15:50,239 --> 01:15:51,600 of the median? Would you do the painted 1651 01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:52,000 lines like 1652 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,159 >> paint the lines? 1653 01:15:54,159 --> 01:15:56,640 I mean it 1654 01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,679 it's c it's doable. I get it. the one I 1655 01:15:59,679 --> 01:16:01,520 mean I would be I would I'd be more apt 1656 01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:03,199 to approve just the first section of 1657 01:16:03,199 --> 01:16:05,199 that and not blocking off mortgage as 1658 01:16:05,199 --> 01:16:06,000 well 1659 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,320 >> because that that gives that gives those 1660 01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,239 people a way out of there. 1661 01:16:10,239 --> 01:16:11,040 >> Oh, I see. 1662 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,120 >> You you literally take it 1663 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,520 >> you you take you take my 47 foot horse 1664 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,840 trailer and go try to go around the 1665 01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:19,360 backside of Maverick and come around to 1666 01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,360 their front entrance. It doesn't happen. 1667 01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:22,719 I mean, I just don't go in there 1668 01:16:22,719 --> 01:16:24,480 anymore. I go in there with a truck and 1669 01:16:24,480 --> 01:16:27,199 a pup. I don't go in there anymore. I 1670 01:16:27,199 --> 01:16:29,840 mean, we are doing a disservice to that 1671 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:31,440 company next to them by having that 1672 01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:34,800 there. That that's my opinion. Whether 1673 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,880 it's the safety, whatever. I just don't 1674 01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:38,719 think you allow some something to come 1675 01:16:38,719 --> 01:16:40,400 in there and then we put something in 1676 01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,239 there that affects another business 1677 01:16:42,239 --> 01:16:45,440 because of our decision. 1678 01:16:45,440 --> 01:16:49,840 >> Brandon, what do you think on that? Um, 1679 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,560 getting rid of the second. Yeah, I the 1680 01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:54,560 doing anything here definitely has an 1681 01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:59,120 impact on Maverick and I my uh 1682 01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,760 recommendation of putting in the medians 1683 01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:05,600 is because I believe that's the safest 1684 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,320 >> but it's but you have to take into I 1685 01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:09,600 mean 1686 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,000 >> but but that that sounds like I'm like 1687 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,320 well too bad so sad for Maverick. If 1688 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:18,400 there was if I felt like there was a um 1689 01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,600 an option where like 1690 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,480 we could make everybody happy, then we 1691 01:17:24,480 --> 01:17:25,920 certainly would have tried to land on 1692 01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:29,360 that be way before now. 1693 01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,120 >> Had you brought Maverick in to have a 1694 01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:32,320 conversation with them to get their 1695 01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,880 ideas on the subject? 1696 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,280 >> Uh no, we have not. 1697 01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,760 >> They've had a representative at uh 1698 01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:42,719 planning commission. Yes, but we we have 1699 01:17:42,719 --> 01:17:45,920 not sought them out to to get their 1700 01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:49,120 opinion. Um, 1701 01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:52,000 so the second one though, so the first 1702 01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:53,679 one was actually a median and then the 1703 01:17:53,679 --> 01:17:56,480 second one was painted on that gives you 1704 01:17:56,480 --> 01:18:00,400 this the safest the the control if you 1705 01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:01,920 will of making sure people know which 1706 01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,159 one to go into instead of going in the 1707 01:18:04,159 --> 01:18:07,679 exit only. Um but then the secondary one 1708 01:18:07,679 --> 01:18:09,280 if that one is a painted on and that 1709 01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:12,320 would allow uh Morty N maverick people 1710 01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:15,679 to make that left turn. 1711 01:18:15,679 --> 01:18:18,239 Yeah, exactly. Stop it basically right 1712 01:18:18,239 --> 01:18:20,719 there with that first one and then that 1713 01:18:20,719 --> 01:18:23,679 second one just be painted. Do you think 1714 01:18:23,679 --> 01:18:26,719 that that would inherently increase the 1715 01:18:26,719 --> 01:18:28,800 risk dramatically? 1716 01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:32,159 Um what's what's your thoughts? I don't 1717 01:18:32,159 --> 01:18:34,719 I I don't know how much of the traffic 1718 01:18:34,719 --> 01:18:37,280 is going to be pushed to that second to 1719 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,880 the Morty's to the car wash uh entrance. 1720 01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:42,239 Um this much I can see. 1721 01:18:42,239 --> 01:18:44,159 >> I see that I think we're talking exit 1722 01:18:44,159 --> 01:18:46,400 right now though because yeah, as it's 1723 01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:47,679 going through the first that's the way 1724 01:18:47,679 --> 01:18:49,120 everybody still travels. So if they're 1725 01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,280 on that that side of the Maverick Road 1726 01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:52,800 going up, they're always going to be 1727 01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:54,239 able to turn up into there. That won't 1728 01:18:54,239 --> 01:18:56,320 ever change on that. This would be 1729 01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,080 allowing people that are coming out of 1730 01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,520 the combined Morty um Maverick Road to 1731 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:03,679 be able to make a left turn where the 1732 01:19:03,679 --> 01:19:06,560 median would stop them right there. Um 1733 01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,679 and it doesn't look like it um 1734 01:19:09,679 --> 01:19:12,400 interferes with either of those um on 1735 01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:13,840 the other side. 1736 01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,000 >> So, are you Let me just restate. Are you 1737 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:20,000 suggesting removing the median from the 1738 01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,640 Maverick entrance north? 1739 01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,920 >> No, the Maverick entrance south. 1740 01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:27,679 Then what purpose does the Maverick 1741 01:19:27,679 --> 01:19:29,840 entrance north serve? 1742 01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:31,920 >> It only blocks you from from the 1743 01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:33,920 Maverick entrance. It blocks you from 1744 01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:38,320 turning left still if you're looking 1745 01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:40,239 >> if you remove that. 1746 01:19:40,239 --> 01:19:42,080 >> I thought you were trying to let people 1747 01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,719 from Maverick turn left out. 1748 01:19:44,719 --> 01:19:45,360 >> Yes. 1749 01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,760 >> Well, the only We were just saying that 1750 01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,520 you would have the option to go up into 1751 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,760 Morty's and out if you were driving 1752 01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:52,400 something like that. 1753 01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,679 >> Right. Well, well, for sure these the 1754 01:19:55,679 --> 01:19:58,560 let's say from the middle axis to the to 1755 01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,960 the uh 1756 01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:02,960 between 1757 01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:06,000 >> right there 1758 01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:10,000 >> between the the uh Maverick and Morty's, 1759 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,159 >> right? Well, really I really I should 1760 01:20:12,159 --> 01:20:13,679 say on the quick trip side, 1761 01:20:13,679 --> 01:20:14,719 >> yeah, 1762 01:20:14,719 --> 01:20:17,199 >> from the north to the middle, you could 1763 01:20:17,199 --> 01:20:20,560 remove that median if with the 1764 01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,800 undeveloped property to the south of the 1765 01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:26,640 car wash, if that axis was shifted to 1766 01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:31,600 align with the that middle access, 1767 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:33,199 there's currently undeveloped property 1768 01:20:33,199 --> 01:20:37,189 there. And so 1769 01:20:37,199 --> 01:20:38,960 » given the use case that I would have 1770 01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,199 personally say I go into Maverick or my 1771 01:20:41,199 --> 01:20:45,600 big RV and I leave out the exit that 1772 01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,920 normally goes to 1773 01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:51,600 where it combines um according to this 1774 01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,000 with that median I would actually have 1775 01:20:54,000 --> 01:21:00,640 to go south and then turn into QT 1776 01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:04,640 >> go around their gas pumps. and then come 1777 01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,600 back out so that I could turn left on 1778 01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,600 South Weaver Drive. 1779 01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:10,640 >> Yes. 1780 01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:11,280 >> And this 1781 01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:12,239 >> left or right now. 1782 01:21:12,239 --> 01:21:14,400 >> Yeah. So, if this God, that was so loud 1783 01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:15,040 tonight. 1784 01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:16,800 >> You bend it down a little bit. It 1785 01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:18,719 doesn't squeal 1786 01:21:18,719 --> 01:21:19,280 >> like that. 1787 01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:20,560 >> Yeah. If everybody does that, it's 1788 01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:21,199 better. Thank you. 1789 01:21:21,199 --> 01:21:23,360 >> Okay. So that's all I'm asking is that 1790 01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:27,120 at that median um that second one if 1791 01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:28,800 that was painted so that I still have 1792 01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:31,280 the choice with my RV to just make a 1793 01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,520 left turn there so that I could then go 1794 01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:36,239 into the left and not have to use their 1795 01:21:36,239 --> 01:21:39,199 um facility as a turnaround. Not saying 1796 01:21:39,199 --> 01:21:42,640 that I would goes down to gas prices. Um 1797 01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:46,080 it's a big machine. Um I I I personally 1798 01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,080 would feel a lot better with that. I 1799 01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,080 mean, I know that's not um like you were 1800 01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,320 saying a perfect solution of no uh 1801 01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:54,000 medians, but I think that gives us a 1802 01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,000 combination of the safety being able to 1803 01:21:56,000 --> 01:22:00,960 route um and still allow for um vehicles 1804 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,920 to exit the Maverick area because it's 1805 01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,239 Yeah, that's a a bad spot. 1806 01:22:06,239 --> 01:22:07,760 >> Yeah. So, I don't 1807 01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:09,520 >> I'm still not sure if I'm understanding 1808 01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:13,199 because if you remove the medians to 1809 01:22:13,199 --> 01:22:16,239 where you can make a lefthand turn out 1810 01:22:16,239 --> 01:22:19,920 of Maverick at the shared entrance, 1811 01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:23,760 you don't need any medians at all. 1812 01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,400 There's no purpose. The the reason for 1813 01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:28,400 the median from the intersection at 1814 01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:32,159 South Weaver Drive across that excess is 1815 01:22:32,159 --> 01:22:40,870 so that you can't turn left. 1816 01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:42,719 Turn my mic. I'm still in favor of no 1817 01:22:42,719 --> 01:22:44,719 medium. 1818 01:22:44,719 --> 01:22:48,480 I'm waiting for your motion, player. 1819 01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:50,480 >> I don't have a vote, but I'm in favor of 1820 01:22:50,480 --> 01:22:52,800 no medium 1821 01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:56,070 as well. 1822 01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:59,520 Is there anything else, Brandon, or 1823 01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:01,199 uh 1824 01:23:01,199 --> 01:23:04,800 anybody else that needs to be changed on 1825 01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:08,880 that road if we don't have the medium? 1826 01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,440 Lance, sorry, I just wasn't getting your 1827 01:23:11,440 --> 01:23:12,800 name out. 1828 01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:14,639 >> Well, I mean, we we would we would want 1829 01:23:14,639 --> 01:23:17,360 to come up with a striping plan to try 1830 01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:21,360 to uh accommodate it the best we could. 1831 01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:22,800 >> That would just turn into 1832 01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:24,159 >> what? That would just turn into a 1833 01:23:24,159 --> 01:23:25,120 suicide lane. 1834 01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:26,719 >> It does. Yeah. That's the problem is you 1835 01:23:26,719 --> 01:23:27,520 just have 1836 01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,639 >> you have cars pointed at each other 1837 01:23:30,639 --> 01:23:32,320 >> with not enough queuing and they don't 1838 01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:36,470 know where to go. But 1839 01:23:36,480 --> 01:23:40,320 » um additionally, does that remove the 1840 01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,199 additional lane? 1841 01:23:43,199 --> 01:23:44,960 >> No, I wouldn't propose you change 1842 01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:46,880 anything with the road, 1843 01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:48,480 >> the width or anything like that. 1844 01:23:48,480 --> 01:23:50,000 Everything that they've got laid out, in 1845 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:51,600 my opinion, is the best we can hope for 1846 01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,320 at this point. Good. 1847 01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,400 >> I want to point one more thing out. So, 1848 01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:59,840 the southernmost entrance um the truck 1849 01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:03,760 in only was widened to be oversized 1850 01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:06,000 to accommodate RVs and trucks to turn 1851 01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,760 around if the median were to stay. 1852 01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:12,960 However, we've gone back and forth. We don't mind if there's no median or if 1853 01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:14,719 there is a median. 1854 01:24:14,719 --> 01:24:17,040 >> So, yeah, I think we want it the same. 1855 01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,440 >> Yeah. If there is a median or not, you 1856 01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:21,679 would would you keep that wider that 1857 01:24:21,679 --> 01:24:22,800 southern entrance? 1858 01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:23,840 >> We would still maintain it. 1859 01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:24,560 >> Yeah. 1860 01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,480 >> Because the plan eventually was to have 1861 01:24:26,480 --> 01:24:27,920 a roundabout. So that would be 1862 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:29,600 accommodating to that. 1863 01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:34,070 >> Thank you. 1864 01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:35,679 » I think this is just one of the worst 1865 01:24:35,679 --> 01:24:41,910 decisions we've ever had to make. 1866 01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,320 » It it was not a good decision when we 1867 01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,239 allowed that to be combined. It was 1868 01:24:46,239 --> 01:24:48,560 Yeah. 1869 01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:51,199 Um, 1870 01:24:51,199 --> 01:24:52,880 do we want to make a motion then to 1871 01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:54,719 >> Yes. If you'd like to make the motion, 1872 01:24:54,719 --> 01:24:56,639 >> I'll make a motion. 1873 01:24:56,639 --> 01:24:58,800 >> No. You say, 1874 01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:02,000 >> are we done talking? Hang on a second. 1875 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:02,480 >> Angie. 1876 01:25:02,480 --> 01:25:03,840 you got 1877 01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:05,679 >> I don't know. I've been over here for 1878 01:25:05,679 --> 01:25:06,960 months driving around this trying to 1879 01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,280 figure out the best solution. 1880 01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,679 >> But the put the Slater principle in. 1881 01:25:11,679 --> 01:25:13,760 >> Yeah. The Slater factor is the medians 1882 01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:17,750 have to stay. 1883 01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:19,520 I don't think everybody understands the 1884 01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:20,880 Slater factory. 1885 01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,040 >> I was thinking a Slater bit, but 1886 01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:24,719 >> he's a little crazy. 1887 01:25:24,719 --> 01:25:26,639 >> My son, my son, Slater, 1888 01:25:26,639 --> 01:25:28,080 >> she doesn't want to incriminate herself. 1889 01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,080 We haven't changed that golf cart code 1890 01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:38,790 yet. [laughter] 1891 01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:41,360 » Can always add them. Mayor, I make the 1892 01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,199 motion uh to approve the conditional use 1893 01:25:43,199 --> 01:25:46,000 permit 26-01 Quick Trip with the 1894 01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:47,760 following condition that the meetings be 1895 01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:49,760 removed from the plan. 1896 01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,560 >> And can I make an and an addition of a 1897 01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:56,159 six foot masonry fence amended? 1898 01:25:56,159 --> 01:25:58,159 >> Seconded. 1899 01:25:58,159 --> 01:26:00,149 >> Have a motion second by Councilman 1900 01:26:00,149 --> 01:26:01,840 [clears throat] Davis. Let's do it. 1901 01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:03,760 >> For clarification, you said medians 1902 01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:04,560 removed. 1903 01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:08,719 >> Yes. Could I just ask the other um 1904 01:26:08,719 --> 01:26:11,280 conditions that the planning commission 1905 01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:13,280 recommended are all still in place and 1906 01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:14,400 >> and to include those? 1907 01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,719 >> Okay, I'll amend that too. 1908 01:26:16,719 --> 01:26:17,199 >> You need 1909 01:26:17,199 --> 01:26:19,199 >> and the location of the fence 1910 01:26:19,199 --> 01:26:20,880 >> the 1911 01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:21,679 north and east 1912 01:26:21,679 --> 01:26:27,510 >> north and east. 1913 01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,199 » Okay, we'll do a roll call vote starting 1914 01:26:29,199 --> 01:26:32,159 with Councilman Herson. I 1915 01:26:32,159 --> 01:26:37,750 >> no 1916 01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:39,120 » I I 1917 01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:40,639 >> I 1918 01:26:40,639 --> 01:26:47,669 >> Okay one motion carries. Thank you. 1919 01:26:47,679 --> 01:26:50,320 I do think that it's important to uh 1920 01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:53,760 point out on that that the medians can 1921 01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:55,440 always be put in 1922 01:26:55,440 --> 01:26:56,880 >> that if the size of the road and 1923 01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:58,960 everything like that then 1924 01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:00,560 >> um we still have that option. 1925 01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:09,030 >> That was just for the medians. 1926 01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:12,480 » Okay. Next item, resolution 26-05, 1927 01:27:12,480 --> 01:27:15,440 amending policy and procedures. Any 1928 01:27:15,440 --> 01:27:18,000 discussion on this 1929 01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,080 resolution? If not, we'll look for a 1930 01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,239 motion to approve 1931 01:27:22,239 --> 01:27:25,270 or 1932 01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:26,800 » Yeah, administration committee reviewed 1933 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,520 this and favored it um you know fully. 1934 01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:30,800 Unless there's any questions in the 1935 01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,239 hearing none, I'll make the motion to 1936 01:27:32,239 --> 01:27:34,800 approve resolution 265 amending the 1937 01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:36,880 policy procedures as presented. 1938 01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:38,400 >> Seconded. 1939 01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:39,679 We have a motion and a second by 1940 01:27:39,679 --> 01:27:42,000 Councilman Howerson. Do roll call vote 1941 01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:43,520 starting with Councilman Windsor. 1942 01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:44,880 >> I I I 1943 01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:46,639 >> I. 1944 01:27:46,639 --> 01:27:49,840 >> Okay. Great. Motion carries. Next item. 1945 01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,239 Ordinance 26-02A 1946 01:27:52,239 --> 01:27:54,880 amending sewer impact fee effective 1947 01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:56,480 date. 1948 01:27:56,480 --> 01:28:06,149 Any discussion on this ordinance? 1949 01:28:06,159 --> 01:28:07,920 Mayor, I make a motion to approve 1950 01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:11,040 ordinance 2026-02A 1951 01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,840 sewer impact fee analysis. 1952 01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,159 >> Second. 1953 01:28:16,159 --> 01:28:18,639 >> A motion second by Councilman Windsor. 1954 01:28:18,639 --> 01:28:21,199 We'll start with Councilman Powers. 1955 01:28:21,199 --> 01:28:25,840 >> I I 1956 01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,000 >> Okay. Once again, motion carries. 1957 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,159 Ordinance 26 1958 01:28:30,159 --> 01:28:31,840 2026-03 1959 01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:35,386 amending title 10 chapter 11 sub amen 1960 01:28:35,386 --> 01:28:38,480 [clears throat] and money need a drink 1961 01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:43,270 qualifying regulations. 1962 01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,280 Thank you for bringing this back. I like 1963 01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:49,040 the changes that we made. 1964 01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:50,960 So, if there's no discussion, I'll make 1965 01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:54,320 a motion to approve ordinance 2026-03, 1966 01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:56,000 amending title 10, chapter 11, 1967 01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,880 supplementary qualifying regulations. 1968 01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:00,159 >> Seconded. 1969 01:29:00,159 --> 01:29:02,000 >> Okay, we have a motion and a second by 1970 01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:03,679 Councilman Herson. Let's start with 1971 01:29:03,679 --> 01:29:04,719 Katherine Windsor. 1972 01:29:04,719 --> 01:29:06,239 >> Before we do that, can I just 1973 01:29:06,239 --> 01:29:07,600 >> Yes. 1974 01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:10,239 >> I'm trying to catch up and I don't want 1975 01:29:10,239 --> 01:29:13,040 to vote on anything, but that's on that 1976 01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:13,920 on the fancy. 1977 01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,560 >> Oh, okay. Yeah, I did read that. Thank 1978 01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:21,110 you. Council 1979 01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:21,920 wins. 1980 01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,639 >> I No. 1981 01:29:24,639 --> 01:29:25,679 >> No. 1982 01:29:25,679 --> 01:29:29,510 >> I 1983 01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:35,910 hear you too. Motion carries. Thank you. 1984 01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:38,960 » Next I item discussion 1985 01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:41,360 legislative review. Dave, do you want to 1986 01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:43,679 bring anything out on the legislation 1987 01:29:43,679 --> 01:29:45,600 session this year or 1988 01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:48,159 >> is that a trick question? 1989 01:29:48,159 --> 01:29:51,350 Um, 1990 01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:53,600 not necessarily. There were, but I will 1991 01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:56,400 bring up I will bring up one thing. Um, 1992 01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:59,199 there were a lot of uh bills discussed 1993 01:29:59,199 --> 01:30:01,520 relative to property taxes. Ultimately, 1994 01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:03,840 there was really only one that was 1995 01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:07,760 approved that has material change to our 1996 01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,880 process, and that was Representative 1997 01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:14,639 Karen Peterson's bill that 1998 01:30:14,639 --> 01:30:18,000 if a city is intending to go through the 1999 01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,880 truth and taxation process, then it 2000 01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:23,840 requires earlier notice in the process. 2001 01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:25,840 And uh even though there's still a lot 2002 01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:28,960 of uh unknowns earlier in the process 2003 01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,440 because we don't get final numbers from 2004 01:30:31,440 --> 01:30:35,360 the county on certified tax rate um 2005 01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:40,000 until later in June um it would require 2006 01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:43,440 approximate and estimated numbers um 2007 01:30:43,440 --> 01:30:46,880 with a prior notice. So, um, if the 2008 01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:50,000 council does, uh, consider 2009 01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,080 holding the rate andor increasing 2010 01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:55,199 property tax revenue in any way and is 2011 01:30:55,199 --> 01:30:56,639 considering going through truth and 2012 01:30:56,639 --> 01:30:58,880 taxation, then we would need to provide 2013 01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:02,080 that notice much earlier. It also that 2014 01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:04,400 same bill requires 2015 01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:06,480 um, 2016 01:31:06,480 --> 01:31:08,239 I forgot the specific name of the 2017 01:31:08,239 --> 01:31:11,600 document. um a document that basically 2018 01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:15,280 outlines um as clearly as possible what 2019 01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:18,480 that additional revenue would go toward 2020 01:31:18,480 --> 01:31:22,239 um and and requires the city to uh when 2021 01:31:22,239 --> 01:31:25,520 they adopt the budget, you can include 2022 01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,320 the additional revenue in your budget. 2023 01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,520 However, you cannot spend any of that 2024 01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,080 revenue um until after truth and 2025 01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:37,199 taxation and a and a 2026 01:31:37,199 --> 01:31:40,320 increase in property tax rate or revenue 2027 01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:42,719 so that um it doesn't feel like there's 2028 01:31:42,719 --> 01:31:45,840 undue pressure on the council to go 2029 01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:47,679 through truth and taxation process in 2030 01:31:47,679 --> 01:31:50,320 August, hear from the public, but still 2031 01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,159 feel like, well, we've already adopted a 2032 01:31:52,159 --> 01:31:54,800 budget that has that increase in it, so 2033 01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,840 our hands are tied. it it's um allows 2034 01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,320 for the council to go through that uh 2035 01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:03,520 process without that type of uh undue 2036 01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:07,040 burden or pressure to approve a budget 2037 01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,600 that way. So it's it's changed to the 2038 01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:13,120 process, not so much um 2039 01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:14,960 beyond that. So 2040 01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:17,600 >> been here too long. 2041 01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,159 >> That's the only bill that I think um I 2042 01:32:20,159 --> 01:32:22,960 feel the need to bring up unless Mayor 2043 01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:26,000 or Joel has any that they feel 2044 01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:32,159 Can I ask a question on that one? Did they um remove the requirement to 2045 01:32:32,159 --> 01:32:35,440 post in a newspaper? Like are they did 2046 01:32:35,440 --> 01:32:37,920 they adjust that yet to where if there's 2047 01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:40,400 a change you you're required to post in 2048 01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:41,679 a newspaper or something like that, 2049 01:32:41,679 --> 01:32:43,920 right? Yeah. 2050 01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:45,679 >> I don't believe that has been removed 2051 01:32:45,679 --> 01:32:47,679 yet, but I know it's been discussed. So, 2052 01:32:47,679 --> 01:32:50,560 I have in my head that that it might be, 2053 01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:52,480 but I'm not 100% certain. So, I won't 2054 01:32:52,480 --> 01:32:54,400 give you a defined answer. It wasn't on 2055 01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:57,040 the board Friday to be um circled if I 2056 01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,840 remember right. So 2057 01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:00,239 >> I don't think 2058 01:33:00,239 --> 01:33:01,360 >> so. I don't even think it went to 2059 01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:01,920 discussion. I 2060 01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:03,440 >> don't think it either. So yeah. 2061 01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:05,920 >> Okay. 2062 01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:07,600 >> But we're still going to do it, right? 2063 01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:10,320 >> I think the goal with that bill is a is 2064 01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:12,159 a good one. It's a noble one with the 2065 01:33:12,159 --> 01:33:15,360 idea that that the public should know 2066 01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:17,920 and have understanding of why a council 2067 01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:20,159 or a city would be going through a truth 2068 01:33:20,159 --> 01:33:22,800 and taxation process. And the timing of 2069 01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:25,760 when uh property tax information comes 2070 01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:28,320 to the city is late enough that there's 2071 01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:31,040 no way to move up the property tax truth 2072 01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:33,520 and taxation process and public hearing 2073 01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:35,679 and things like that. um that was looked 2074 01:33:35,679 --> 01:33:38,080 at first is let's move that up in the 2075 01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:39,840 timeline, but that's just not a 2076 01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:42,400 possibility. Um therefore, the truth and 2077 01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:45,280 taxation process still has to happen um 2078 01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:47,679 in August. It can't be before the budget 2079 01:33:47,679 --> 01:33:51,600 is adopted and in place for July 1. So, 2080 01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,320 this just adds an additional um layer of 2081 01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:56,960 communication and hopefully transparency 2082 01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:59,440 to communicate better and and educate 2083 01:33:59,440 --> 01:34:01,840 better why a city may be considering a 2084 01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:03,920 property tax increase and specifically 2085 01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:08,390 what that money would be used for. 2086 01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:12,149 » Okay. 2087 01:34:12,159 --> 01:34:14,080 » New business. Anyone have any new 2088 01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:15,760 business they'd like to discuss 2089 01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:17,199 >> here? May I? 2090 01:34:17,199 --> 01:34:21,520 >> Yes. Um the parks committee I lost the 2091 01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:24,880 uh arm wrestling uh event with the parks 2092 01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:27,760 chair. Um, 2093 01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:32,320 so I was asked to canvas the council 2094 01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:35,120 um on a subject with regards to the 2095 01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:38,719 master plan for Central Park and um 2096 01:34:38,719 --> 01:34:40,719 there's some certain questions decision 2097 01:34:40,719 --> 01:34:43,600 tree that we wanted to go through um and 2098 01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:44,880 we didn't know if we wanted to do that 2099 01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:47,760 in an open meeting as an agenda item, if 2100 01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:50,480 we wanted to do it as a work session um 2101 01:34:50,480 --> 01:34:52,239 or if you wanted just the parks 2102 01:34:52,239 --> 01:34:56,159 committee to go back and um make some 2103 01:34:56,159 --> 01:34:57,840 recommendations on the master plan to 2104 01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:00,800 bring back for an elaborate discussion. 2105 01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:02,560 Um, I'm trying to be somewhat vague 2106 01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:04,639 because if we get into deep discussion, 2107 01:35:04,639 --> 01:35:08,719 it could jeopardize uh property values 2108 01:35:08,719 --> 01:35:10,320 if we wanted to go down that path. So, 2109 01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:12,000 I'm trying to be somewhat vague, but 2110 01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,639 there are some key decisions that need 2111 01:35:14,639 --> 01:35:16,560 to be discussed as we develop that 2112 01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:18,960 master plan. So, the canvas question is, 2113 01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:20,960 would you like to do that in an open 2114 01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:23,120 forum, more open meeting? Do you want to 2115 01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:24,639 do it in a closed session? because it 2116 01:35:24,639 --> 01:35:27,280 does uh deal with property value and try 2117 01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:30,159 and get the best uh cost of a property 2118 01:35:30,159 --> 01:35:31,440 or do you want to do it in a working 2119 01:35:31,440 --> 01:35:36,229 session? 2120 01:35:36,239 --> 01:35:37,840 » I think I'd appreciate a working 2121 01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:39,920 session, but 2122 01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:41,840 um I think that those can be more 2123 01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:44,159 effective if you bring one or two 2124 01:35:44,159 --> 01:35:46,159 recommendations along with that. 2125 01:35:46,159 --> 01:35:47,520 >> The the issue is there's not 2126 01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:49,360 recommendations. There's a if this then 2127 01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:51,440 that, if that, then this. And it's uh 2128 01:35:51,440 --> 01:35:52,719 it's I wanted to walk you through a 2129 01:35:52,719 --> 01:35:54,960 decision- making process uh because as 2130 01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,040 soon as you say no to one if the qu the 2131 01:35:57,040 --> 01:36:01,120 question's done um and uh if if it's yes 2132 01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,520 then it leads to other questions and 2133 01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:04,880 where's the comfort level till you get 2134 01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:06,639 to the following result. So, I've been 2135 01:36:06,639 --> 01:36:09,440 asked to task uh I've been tasked to 2136 01:36:09,440 --> 01:36:10,639 lead the council through a 2137 01:36:10,639 --> 01:36:14,480 decision-making tree on key decision for 2138 01:36:14,480 --> 01:36:18,000 that uh master plan for that park. And 2139 01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:19,199 uh 2140 01:36:19,199 --> 01:36:22,080 >> I'm okay with a work session. I don't I 2141 01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:22,800 don't have a problem with that. 2142 01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:25,910 >> Angie, 2143 01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:27,840 » I'm okay with a work session, too. 2144 01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:29,760 >> Yeah. She she she barely won the arm 2145 01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,800 wrestling contest. 2146 01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:33,840 >> Mayor, 2147 01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,480 >> I'm good with that. Joel. 2148 01:36:36,480 --> 01:36:38,880 >> Um, I do see the value in keeping it a 2149 01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:43,199 close session. I really do. 2150 01:36:43,199 --> 01:36:46,000 >> So, we'll just need to know the the uh 2151 01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:49,199 as we get into it and I'll let Mayor 2152 01:36:49,199 --> 01:36:51,440 >> Jerry said he wanted to do session. 2153 01:36:51,440 --> 01:36:52,639 >> Yeah. But I would be fine if it was 2154 01:36:52,639 --> 01:36:54,800 closed, too. I don't really care. But I 2155 01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:56,080 It does need to be separate from this 2156 01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:56,400 meeting. 2157 01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:57,600 >> It does need to be separate from this 2158 01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:00,239 meeting. Okay. So, I'll council with uh 2159 01:37:00,239 --> 01:37:01,840 the committee chair and the mayor and 2160 01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:04,719 we'll come up with a an agenda item at a 2161 01:37:04,719 --> 01:37:05,520 future meeting. 2162 01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:06,480 >> Okay. 2163 01:37:06,480 --> 01:37:07,040 >> Thank you. 2164 01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:10,880 >> Sounds good. Any other new business? 2165 01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:12,719 Anyone have a report they'd like to make 2166 01:37:12,719 --> 01:37:15,760 on their committee 2167 01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:17,760 budgets that are going on? I don't know 2168 01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:18,800 that we would have. 2169 01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:22,239 >> I have nothing to report. 2170 01:37:22,239 --> 01:37:23,760 >> Dave, do you have anything else? 2171 01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:25,360 >> Yeah, I'd like to report on one thing. 2172 01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:29,360 The uh Utah state provided well-being 2173 01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:32,239 survey is active right now. It's been 2174 01:37:32,239 --> 01:37:35,360 open for about a week and we were we 2175 01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:37,040 received our first report on the number 2176 01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:39,679 of responses. We had 122 responses in 2177 01:37:39,679 --> 01:37:41,600 the first week. The last time this 2178 01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:43,440 survey was conducted, we had a total of 2179 01:37:43,440 --> 01:37:47,280 298 responses. So, um it's usually open 2180 01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:49,119 for about three weeks. If we had that 2181 01:37:49,119 --> 01:37:50,719 same number every week, we'd be right 2182 01:37:50,719 --> 01:37:52,639 about where we were last time. But it'd 2183 01:37:52,639 --> 01:37:56,960 be awesome to get more responses than last time if possible. So, 2184 01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,440 >> are they emailing that out? 2185 01:37:59,440 --> 01:38:01,199 >> Shaye, do you want to talk about the 2186 01:38:01,199 --> 01:38:07,189 publication process? 2187 01:38:07,199 --> 01:38:09,040 » Yeah, but you can't see me and I'm not 2188 01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:10,560 standing. 2189 01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:12,719 Um, yeah, I sent an email out. It's on 2190 01:38:12,719 --> 01:38:15,040 the city website. Um, just on the city 2191 01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:18,080 news portion on the homepage. Um, I also 2192 01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:20,000 have a few posts going out to remind 2193 01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:22,960 residents as well as follow-up emails as 2194 01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:25,840 well. So, 2195 01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:27,920 >> while Shaylee has the microphone, is it 2196 01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:31,280 an appropriate time to ask about Easter? 2197 01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:31,920 >> Thank you. 2198 01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:33,920 >> Sure. Do you want to just know about it? 2199 01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:35,840 >> Yeah. Could you just tell us what it is? 2200 01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:36,639 >> Yeah. 2201 01:38:36,639 --> 01:38:37,760 >> What What is the Easter egg hunt? When 2202 01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:38,159 is that? 2203 01:38:38,159 --> 01:38:40,320 >> Um, the Easter egg hunt this year is 2204 01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:43,760 going to be on Saturday, April 4th at 2205 01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:46,239 900 a.m. instead of Fridays. We're going 2206 01:38:46,239 --> 01:38:48,560 to try Saturday mornings instead. 2207 01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:50,000 >> And which park will that be at? 2208 01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:51,360 >> That's going to be at Central Park. 2209 01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:54,000 Thank you for asking. 2210 01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:55,440 >> Yeah, but it'll be separated in age 2211 01:38:55,440 --> 01:38:57,119 groups again, just as we always have 2212 01:38:57,119 --> 01:39:00,639 done. Um, siren goes off at 9:00 a.m. 2213 01:39:00,639 --> 01:39:02,560 sharp. So, make sure you get there ahead 2214 01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:04,400 of time. 2215 01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:06,000 >> Angie, do you have an item? 2216 01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:07,679 >> That was all I just needed. Yeah, thank 2217 01:39:07,679 --> 01:39:08,320 you. 2218 01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:09,360 >> You have an item. 2219 01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:11,600 >> Um, just real quickly, it's it's more of 2220 01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:14,719 a request. Um Dave, you and your team do 2221 01:39:14,719 --> 01:39:17,199 a lot of great work. Um and I know 2222 01:39:17,199 --> 01:39:19,440 putting together these um agendas and 2223 01:39:19,440 --> 01:39:23,199 the packets um is often difficult. Um 2224 01:39:23,199 --> 01:39:25,040 we've had a couple times and in this 2225 01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:28,400 meeting we've had two or three where 2226 01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:30,880 information in the packet was either 2227 01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:33,920 conflicting or at at very least 2228 01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,719 confusing. Um, and that makes it 2229 01:39:36,719 --> 01:39:39,600 difficult on city council when we have 2230 01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:42,560 to vote on these things, as well as any 2231 01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:44,400 miscommunications and misunderstandings 2232 01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:47,920 that can happen with the public 2233 01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:52,159 a week before this even um occurs in the 2234 01:39:52,159 --> 01:39:54,639 meeting. Um, so I would just uh like to 2235 01:39:54,639 --> 01:39:57,040 ask if you guys would take a look at um 2236 01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:59,199 some of the issues that was brought up 2237 01:39:59,199 --> 01:40:02,880 and see uh what happened. if it was 2238 01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:04,800 something that was just I mean obviously 2239 01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:07,199 a simple mistake but is there a way that 2240 01:40:07,199 --> 01:40:10,800 we could either put on um that front 2241 01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:14,000 page a quick this is the exact numbers 2242 01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:17,520 that we are voting on um so that even if 2243 01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:19,679 it shows it later on we'll know that 2244 01:40:19,679 --> 01:40:21,920 this is the actual information that 2245 01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:23,520 that's going on and there may be nothing 2246 01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:25,840 to do it maybe just this is one of those 2247 01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:27,280 meetings because we had such a thick 2248 01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:30,719 packet but um I would like you to take a 2249 01:40:30,719 --> 01:40:35,669 look at that if you would Please. 2250 01:40:35,679 --> 01:40:37,840 » Anyone else? Look for a motion to 2251 01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:40,840 adjourn.